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From the L.A. Times:

UC must immediately drop use of the SAT and ACT for admissions and scholarships, judge rules

By TERESA WATANABE STAFF WRITER
SEP. 1, 2020 12:43 PM

The University of California must immediately suspend all use of SAT and ACT test scores for admission and scholarship decisions under a preliminary injunction issued by an Alameda County Superior Court judge.

The ruling came in a lawsuit asserting that the use of standardized test scores is broadly biased — and particularly detrimental to students with disabilities who seek to take the test during the coronavirus crisis.

Superior Court Judge Brad Seligman said in his Monday ruling that plaintiffs had shown sufficient cause to stop the tests for now because applicants with disabilities had virtually no access to test-taking sites or legally required accommodations during the COVID-19 pandemic.

“The barriers faced by students with disabilities have been greatly exacerbated by the COVID-19 epidemic, which has disrupted test-taking locations, closed schools and limited access to school counselors,” Seligman wrote.

Seligman added that little data existed to show whether the tests were even valid or reliable indicators of their future college performance. …

Sure, Judge, sure … Besides the fact that it is 2020 and all this has been studied ad infinitum for the better part of a century, there was just a report released last winter by the official U of California faculty commission to investigate standardized testing, which found the SAT not just complementary to high school GPA but superior on a stand-alone basis.

The injunction on the use of SAT and ACT results will affect all California applicants to the UC system.

“The SAT and ACT are dead and gone as far as the UC system is concerned,” said Mark Rosenbaum, a Los Angeles attorney who helped file the lawsuit as director of Public Counsel’s Opportunity Under Law project. The “historic decision puts an end to racist tests that deprived countless California students of color, students with disabilities, and students from low-income families of a fair shot at admissions to the UC system.”

Rosenbaum said he and his team targeted only the UC system to efficiently manage the case but that the court’s reasoning should apply to all colleges and universities, both public and private, across the country.

“If other universities don’t follow, we’ll come after them as well,” he said, adding that he would be conferring with civil and disability rights advocates in other states. …

Earlier this year,

On May 21, 2020:

the UC Board of Regents unanimously voted to phase out standardized test scores in admissions decisions after concluding that the tests were unacceptably biased based on race, income and parent education level and did not provide useful information about how students would fare in college. Regents voted to make the tests optional this year and next, then phase them out …

The May plan by the board of regents was to make them optional thru 2024 (i.e., Asians and whites better submit test scores, blacks and Latinos don’t bother, thus boosting scores reported to USNWR). Then in 2025, UC would introduce its own miracle test on which, presumably, all races would score the same and everybody would live happily ever after.

The only question was: Why didn’t anybody ever think of inventing a non-racist test before?

Some accommodations, such as Braille and large-print exams, 100% extended time for tests and computers for those who cannot hand write essays, are only available at high school testing centers, but those have been closed during the coronavirus crisis, said Abigail Graber, an attorney with Brown, Goldstein & Levy, a Baltimore law firm representing the plaintiffs. …

So COVID is being used as an excuse to get rid of this system that has worked fairly well for three generations and with no backup plan.

For going on three decades, I’ve been pointing out that our elites and their institutions don’t act like they believe the politically correct assertions they emit. For example, our prestigious universities have grown ever more prestigious by admitting intelligent students by using standardized tests that show marked differences in average scores among the races.

And, I’d say, that hypocrisy is a good thing. Hypocrisy is better than stupidity when you are in charge of important functions.

It almost seems as if 2020 was the year that America’s elites decided that they were going to prove Sailer wrong by taking up his challenge and stop being hypocritical: in the new non-hypocritical America, blacks don’t have to be arrested if they aren’t in the mood, dumb kids can go to Berkeley, etc etc

But, I think what really is going on is this:

Elites didn’t actually admit to themselves they were hypocritical. They just didn’t think much about it. Taking the SAT was what you did. That’s how things worked. It wasn’t hypocrisy that was keeping America running, it was inertia. The huge conflict between the political correctness that everybody who was anybody publicly swore to and the things you need to do to keep a modern civilization working (e.g., arrest blacks more than you arrest Asians) were not much on the agenda. Everybody’s budget just went up 2% per year and that was okay.

But then the coronavirus came along, and lots of things had to be improvised. Cities had no money so who would get the axe: the police or the social workers? Defund the police!

The spring SAT was canceled, so then what was the next step? Abolish college admissions testing!

It turned out that because the common sense arguments had been edged out of the Overton Window over the years, in the debates about how to alter arrangements in 2020 were dominated by the politically correct, because dissent had been declared a firing offense.

So now, in the rearranging, the Woke have the whip hand, and they are doing all sorts of stupid, dysfunctional things in the name of Racial Reckoning.

 
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  1. “Brad Seligman”

    Quelle surprise.

  2. vhrm says:

    Elites didn’t actually admit to themselves they were hypocritical. They just didn’t think much about it. Taking the SAT was what you did. That’s how things worked. It wasn’t hypocrisy that was keeping America running, it was inertia.

    I think it’s some combination of the two. A lot of it IS inertia, but also there’s an aspect that things have worked too well for too long. i.e. they/we forgot that the tests were actually a democratizing, leveling objective measurement fighting against a more subjective previous system.

    It’s just like with so many systems in modern society: plumbing, the electrical supply, the internet, food in supermarkets, banking, airplanes, the mail, gasoline, and roads. These systems “just work” and 99+% of people never know anything about how they work or what it takes to get them to work, how much effort’s gone in over decades or centuries to get the thing to work as well as it does or pretty much anything about them other than whatever their own profession or job is. And even then many people hardly understand or care about more than their own job in their company. Lack of curiosity about the real world is more the rule than the exception in my experience.

  3. @Bill Jones

    My “iSteve” blog is modeled on Dan Seligman’s “Keeping Up” column in “Fortune” in the 1970s-80s.

  4. As Ron Unz has pointed out, Jews don’t do that well on standardized tests anymore. Perhaps this new more “holistic” admissions process is meant to help them out, while marginalizing grindish East Asians.

    Of course, you can’t say that out loud, so everybody is pretending that this about helping out Blacks and Hispanics.

  5. @Steve Sailer

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Gabriel_Seligman

    Anthropologists author of “Races of Africa” and mentor of Malinowski and Evans-Pritchard.

    • Thanks: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  6. Elites didn’t actually admit to themselves they were hypocritical. They just didn’t think much about it.

    This is an important post, Steve. I’ve been asking this same question for ages, because it comes up all the time. Do Good Whites/SJWs/The Woke/Substitute Saviors/We-all-know-who-they-are really believe the PC idiocies they’ve been spouting, or do they know better, and cynically fall in line with popular lies in order to avoid trouble/get ahead in life?

    As a believer myself (in Someone and something very different from all this worldly wisdom), I’ve always tended toward the ‘yes, they actually believe it’ option.

    Maybe you’re right that this pattern of beliefs, this unacknowledged cult, has heretofore been inchoate, but now has been COVID-crystalized: the acceptable-but-lukewarm parishioners in faculty lounges and HR departments and government agencies across the land have had to answer an altar call, and are now making much more fervent, public professions of their faith. Could be.

    What you’re certainly right about is the overwhelming assumption among woke Americans that cultural capital — and, it seems, conventional capital, if you follow the recently discussed views of Ms Love-Looting — is inexhaustible. There are always more university places to fit in AA admits without compromising the chances of anybody else; there are always more white children to distribute amongst schools so that all schools are integrated; there is always more insurance money to pay for the looted inventories and wrecked premises of thousands of stores — there is always more culture to deconstruct and denigrate and incinerate. Somebody else will always pick up the pieces, pick up the tab, pick up the phone when they’re in trouble.

    But nothing in this fallen world is infinite.

  7. Maybe after The Problems end, reading Stephenson’s The Diamond Age will be required for school children? At least until they grasp the fact that some cultures ARE superior to others.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @Gabe Ruth
  8. Kow-towing to disability is the central platform of modern times.

    It would be better if, instead of disabled ramps around colleges, public buildings and shopping malls – there were crocodile infested moats and security guards who only let you in if you score 8/10 or more on a randomly generated Wordsum test.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  9. It wasn’t hypocrisy that was keeping America running, it was inertia.

    Or the upper crustees are just – discreet. There is this sweet secret of the root cause of their upper-crustiness – and there is no need really to tout it out to everybody – see. Because, frankly: Who would do that (if not the proles on the internet…(=Steve Sailer and some such).

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  10. Altai says:

    The only question was: Why didn’t anybody ever think of inventing a non-racist test before?

    Once again America’s cosmopolitan elites forget how the rest of the world functions with university entrance exams.

    It’s already, compared to that, highly unfair with GPAs (Which, as Steve has noted, are graded on a curve unique to each school) and personal essays complimenting SAT/ACTs. It’s the only place where a group of basically unaccountable people judge applicants on subjective parameters.

  11. Altai says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    One of the more dramatic developments has been the drop in Jewish participation in the sciences.

  12. Mike Tre says:

    So it seems like the next obstacle to overcome is the high dropout rate for certain minorities (cough negroes cough). I imagine grades will stop being issued first in certain majors, like Blackity-black, y’all Theory, but eventually move into more critical fields like Motherfuckin’ Blackity-black y’all Theory. Then when enough negroes start wandering into the structural engineering classrooms, well, then you know then it will be safer to swim across the Mississippi than it will be to drive on a bridge passing over it.

    Or maybe the admissions staff will just start mailing out the degrees with the acceptance letters and commence billing the G for the next 30 years for J’Quon’s education.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Thanks: Happy Tapir
    • LOL: turtle
    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Buffalo Joe
  13. Anon[254] • Disclaimer says:

    This reminds me of my favorite web article. Chris Jackson ‘What It’s Like To Teach Black Students’. I’ve worked in schools & have had friends go to mostly black z… colleges!

    We’re all agreed you have to be pretty dumb or sheltered (most women) to think these impulsive thugs can add anything to am institution.

  14. Sailer wrote:

    And, I’d say, that hypocrisy is a good thing. Hypocrisy is better than stupidity when you are in charge of important functions.

    Nah. Let’s force the ruling elite to eat the stew they have cooked. Good and hard.

    My slogan: “Defund the universities!”

    After all, we all know that the serious faculty, especially in the STEM subjects, is going to surreptitiously try to continue to employ merit as a criterion of admission. Only way to stop them is to defund them.

    Seriously, back in the early 1980s, I shared an office for a year with the fellow who is credited with inventing TTL logic, Jim Buie. Jim told me that, when he started in engineering after getting his degree on the GI Bill (he had been a military aviator in WW II), most of the engineers did not have college degrees but had learned their trade on the job.

    That is actually more feasible today than it was then, now that we have edX, Coursera, etc. And I speak from some personal experience here: when I started work in engineering, I had a Ph.D. in physics, no degree in engineering, but found it fairly easy to rapidly get beyond most of the engineers. (But didn’t I owe that to the classes I had taken in physics? No, I was basically self-taught. Physics and math profs in the US at the time were pedagogical disasters.)

    Only slightly off-topic is my earlier comment on the bizarre persecution to which my daughter is being subjected by UCLA. As that comment notes, she is being told that a woman who is assaulted at UCLA has no right at all to defend herself, even in the most restrained manner (my daughter tried to hold the assailant’s sleeves to stop the attack, but my daughter is therefore being accused of assault!). Obviously, UCLA is breaking a huge number of state and federal laws in insisting upon this, but as my earlier comment notes, we need to break this in the national media.

    Any suggestions as to which media outlets are worth contacting would be appreciated — Right, Left, or whoever might help.

    Thanks.

  15. “But then the coronavirus came along, and lots of things had to be improvised. Cities had no money so who would get the axe: the police or the social workers? Defund the police!”

    This brings to mind:
    “Back in my teaching days, many years ago, one of the things I liked to ask the class to consider was this: Imagine a government agency with only two tasks: (1) building statues of Benedict Arnold and (2) providing life-saving medications to children. If this agency’s budget were cut, what would it do?
    “The answer, of course, is that it would cut back on the medications for children. Why? Because that would be what was most likely to get the budget cuts restored. If they cut back on building statues of Benedict Arnold, people might ask why they were building statues of Benedict Arnold in the first place.”
    -Thomas Sowell
    https://humanevents.com/2013/03/06/budget-politics/

    “And, I’d say, that hypocrisy is a good thing. Hypocrisy is better than stupidity when you are in charge of important functions.”
    One of the more controversial statements I have read on this blog. This brings to mind:

    Mr. Sailer makes a noteworthy argument that much of this is not hypocrisy at all, at least on a conscious level. Is this perhaps the end result of the children of hypocrites who did not understand that their parents’ generation were hypocrites?

    • Agree: botazefa
  16. Flip says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Sounds like the Federal Reserve and its printing of dollars to fund the deficit. It’s like a horn of plenty so far. I don’t think it lasts.

  17. Dr. X says:
    @Bill Jones

    Seligman, Rosenbaum, Graber, Goldstein, Levy… the article reads like the Tel Aviv phone book.

  18. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @vhrm

    Lack of curiosity about the real world is more the rule than the exception in my experience.

    Mine, too.

    Liberalism today is a system that permits everything and enforces that permission with violence.

    The various groups imported to the cities as vote farms were selected for their ability to tolerate vote farm life, which in practice meant an inability to tolerate industrial society. It has been about 60 years since the 1960s revolution reduced the US post WW II coalition to the big city machines, and the rulers of the big city machines know only how to exist within urban politics, and know nothing about what an industrial society requires. They do know, however, that the people in their vote farms cannot tolerate industrial society (*). So, they are shutting down industrial society, or at least trying to do so. Simple as that.

    Bizarrely, the big city political machines expect to extract more money from their hinterlands once industrialization is gone. This appears to be J. Biden’s entire platform — deindustrialize, control more, extract more money. As you remarked, current urban leadership runs by inertia and tradition, and live in a sort of virtual “political reality”. Current urban leadership has no idea of how the physical world works.

    You might be interested in a corrolary to your post, https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/dissolution-liberal-universalism

    *) This should have been obvious from the Black takeover of Cornell so vividly described by Bloom in _Closing of the American Mind_, but was not.

  19. @Anon

    This reminds me of my favorite web article. Chris Jackson ‘What It’s Like To Teach Black Students’.

    For your viewing pleasure, the first day of school in France:

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  20. California is clearly headed to becoming the California of Heinlein’s Friday.

    For example, when it was noted that Californians with college degrees earned more than those with high school diplomas alone, the California voters passed a law granting all citizens a bachelor’s degree upon graduation from high school.

  21. Can you really say that a system has “worked” if it just ended up being gamed by Asian study-nerds to displace the native population in all the elite institutions on a wholesale basis?

    Good riddance I say.

    • Replies: @education realist
  22. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    UC will go the way of the City College of New York, a once great school which was/is the alma mater of many great Nobel laureates in science (mostly Jews). After open admissions CCNY became a diverse, third-rate community college.

  23. Ron Unz says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    This is an important post, Steve. I’ve been asking this same question for ages, because it comes up all the time. Do Good Whites/SJWs/The Woke/Substitute Saviors/We-all-know-who-they-are really believe the PC idiocies they’ve been spouting, or do they know better, and cynically fall in line with popular lies in order to avoid trouble/get ahead in life?

    Yes, I think it’s probably a mixture of different unvoiced positions, in proportions that are difficult to guess.

    The key point is that people are very reluctant to discuss ultra-touchy matters with each other, so they stay quiet or perhaps just casually mouth platitudes. Therefore, nobody really knows that other people believe, and in what proportions. Back a few years ago, I discovered this was exactly the case among several of America’s leading academic scholars when I published my analysis of racial crime:

    Racial issues have traditionally been among the most highly charged in American public life, and the nexus of crime and race has been exceptionally contentious for many decades. Under these circumstances respectable scholars tend to be cautious in discussing or merely investigating this topic, and the mainstream media is usually even more gun-shy. The striking racial findings presented above require only trivial statistical calculations and may be glimpsed in any casual inspection of the crime rankings of our major cities. But I remain uncertain to what extent they are already recognized by our experts in social policy.

    For example, when I presented my correlation results to one very prominent conservative social scientist, he found them shocking and remarkable, and said he had never imagined that the statistical relationship between race and crime was so extremely strong. But when I showed the same data to an equally prominent liberal academic, he took the information in stride and said he assumed that almost all experts were already quietly aware of the general facts. The reactions of other knowledgeable individuals fell all along this spectrum ranging from surprise to familiarity. Knowledge so explosive that it is usually unspoken and unreported may easily remain unknown even to many of our foremost intellectuals.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#the-racial-subtext-of-american-electoral-politics

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  24. El Dato says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I had a Ph.D. in physics, no degree in engineering, but found it fairly easy to rapidly get beyond most of the engineers.

    Engineering is application of scientific & economic & organizational principles. Sometimes more of the latter than the former. It’s something that you grow into with a lot of practice. An “engineering degree” just means “you may have a chance in this job, we will see (but know that you know nothing)”.

  25. To think, if they’d been this woke in the 1970s, Steve Sailer and I could have been classmates at Cal State somewhere.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  26. Anonymous[198] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s telling that the word “Trump” is absent from this article. Someone seeing into the future from October 2016 would have thought Clinton had won. She did win, in a way.

  27. @Anon

    Race realist classics…

    https://www.amren.com/news/2016/08/a-white-teacher-speaks-out/

    A White Teacher Speaks Out

    https://menghublog.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners-gedaliah-braun/

    Morality and Abstract Thinking : How Africans may differ from Westerners – Gedaliah Braun

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/what_i_learned_in_peace_corps_in_africa_trump_is_right.html

    What I Learned in the Peace Corps in Africa: Trump Is Right

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7882-westerners-and-easterners-see-the-world-differently/

    Westerners and Easterners see the world differently

    https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2519/2598282

    Serum Estrogen, But Not Testosterone, Levels Differ between Black and White Men in a Nationally Representative Sample of Americans

    https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/12/04/blacks-and-whites-with-equal-educational-attainment-differ-in-cognitive-ability/

    Blacks and Whites with Equal Educational Attainment Differ in Cognitive Ability

    https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/2/642/2845134

    Difference in Bone Mass between Black and White American Children: Attributable to Body Build, Sex Hormone Levels, or Bone Turnover?

    https://www.amren.com/news/2016/03/the-biggest-difference-between-whites-and-blacks/

    The Biggest Difference Between Whites and Blacks

    …………

  28. Wilkey says:

    I think what the elites are realizing is that giving Hispanics and Blacks (roughly) proportional shares of the spoils is a better deal than giving Asians the 50-60-70% they would get if admittance were based on their test scores. Asians may be smarter than whites, on average, but they sure as hell aren’t that much smarter, so in a way I think the elites are right. Of course the elites don’t give two shits about middle class whites in flyover country, anyway, so why any of us should care is a mystery.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @AnotherDad
  29. @The Last Real Calvinist

    What you’re certainly right about is the overwhelming assumption among woke Americans that cultural capital — and, it seems, conventional capital, if you follow the recently discussed views of Ms Love-Looting — is inexhaustible.

    Yes. That basically describes a lot of American capitalism: exploit a natural resource to exhaustion. Plow prairies where topsoil takes 100 years to form an inch, because “rain follows the plow,” then watch the accumulated centuries of topsoil blow away in a Dust Bowl, all to produce commodity grains for temporary economic profit.

    Take a large, functional country with high social capital in the form of trust. Use the power of the state to convert that social capital to economic capital by bringing in cheap foreign labor and by underwriting mortgages to capture more of the lifetime income of the working class, earning a “profit” by exploiting the goodwill of citizens who will pay you yesterday’s wages for tomorrow’s cheap crap.

    Whatever it is, it’s not capitalism, unless capital is only what Marx considered “false capital”: shares, financial products, money.

    • Agree: Happy Tapir
  30. Jack D says:
    @Wilkey

    Maybe you could do this at a few elite institutions but Asians are 5% of the US population so it’s mathematically impossible for them to be 50-70% of the students at every college.

    • Replies: @JosephB
  31. @Bill Jones

    Not to mention…

    Mark Rosenbaum, a Los Angeles attorney who helped file the lawsuit

    Abigail Graber, an attorney with Brown, Goldstein & Levy,

    We’re really just bystanders in their world.

    If we’re lucky. Usually we’re targets.

  32. Anon[137] • Disclaimer says:

    California colleges will get more loudmouth, disruptive, “rapey”, troublemaking “students” who will no doubt commit a few more crimes than were going to happen at or near campus.

    Our competition globally are not making these silly mistakes judge Brad………

  33. Alice says:

    Our “elites” CAN’T think about it much. They’re too stupid. The vast majority live without noticing the contradictions of their own lives, whether it’s their jet setting carbon footprint as they talk dying polar bears or their starving the planet’s poor by turn food into gasoline or their parrotting how bad GW’s slavery was as they buy Nikes and iPhones, they are empty vessels. They know nothing, cannot follow cause and effect, cannot detect contradiction. They are muddled lazy unthinkers.

    • Agree: notsaying
  34. The Wuhan Flu is being used as an excuse to change a lot of things, and most people seem to be going along with it. This is just another way the supposed cure is far worse than the disease, and The Agenda is being furthered.

    Enjoy your dumbed-down, restricted, locked-down future of wearing gags, um “masks.”

    Stop and think. Look. All these masks we are wearing are gags that symbolically block speech. You are being blocked and controlled through fear.

    (If this comment is just the rantings of a “conspiracy nut,” then I disavow any knowledge of having typed it.)

  35. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    The only question was: Why didn’t anybody ever think of inventing a non-racist test before?

    This is such an obvious question. If there is bias in current tests, just make a test without bias. Why leave money on the table?

    The only thing even close were the joke tests from the Civil Rights era, like the Chitling Test and the BITCH-100 test, which just had a bunch of black cultural stuff that whites don’t know … but which they would learn in no time flat if the tests became high-stakes college admissions tests. I reckon whites and Asians would put blacks to shame on their own tests.

    This is yet another area where you have drive-by mike drops on Twitter and in media quotes (“the SAT is racially biased”) but nothing to back up the statement. There is a load of research on this. Appendix 5 of The Bell Curve is still relevant, and Russell Warne’s upcoming In the Know: Debunking 35 Myths about Human Intelligence from Cambridge University Press includes as one of the 35 myths “Intelligence tests are biased against diverse populations.” Even if you’re not that interested in test bias research the field is interesting in all the ingenious ways that clever people have thought up to approach the question and test it.

  36. Interesting. This article made me start to believe the earlier Isteve hypothesis that the rise of Asian competition for elite and Ivy League positions has caused an evasive movement by elite whites, particularly of the stripe involved in these proceedings, to do away with standardized testing, which is the prime piece of objective evidence in lawsuits such as the recent Chinese action suit against Harvard.

    They are also making changes in medicine. They are ceasing you report USMLE scores other than pass/fail. Residencies used to use this for applicant cutoffs. Also, they restructured the mcat scoring, which another commenter here claimed was to dumb it down in the style of the post 1995 sat, but I don’t fully understand his argument. An expert explanation would be welcome.

  37. theMann says:

    At some point at least some Universities will have to man up and say:

    Fuck the ADA
    Fuck Title 9
    Fuck the Feds

    First school that does that gets the cream of the intellectual crop.

  38. Is Lecturing Racist?

    https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2020/09/02/lecturing-disadvantages-underrepresented-minority-and-low-income-students-opinion

    That’s another one for Titania McGrath’s list.

    THINGS THAT ARE RACIST
    (Parts 1-27)

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1281023987242487808.html

    “College admissions tests” are of course already on the list (in part 22).

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  39. Mr. Anon says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Any suggestions as to which media outlets are worth contacting would be appreciated — Right, Left, or whoever might help.

    Revolver News

    https://www.revolver.news/

    Don’t know how to contact them though.

    Tucker Carlson’s show, perhaps.

    Campus Reform:

    https://www.campusreform.org/

  40. Mr. Anon says:

    The ruling came in a lawsuit asserting that the use of standardized test scores is broadly biased — and particularly detrimental to students with disabilities who seek to take the test during the coronavirus crisis.

    “The SAT and ACT are dead and gone as far as the UC system is concerned,” said Mark Rosenbaum, a Los Angeles attorney who helped file the lawsuit as director of Public Counsel’s Opportunity Under Law project. The “historic decision puts an end to racist tests that deprived countless California students of color, students with disabilities, and students from low-income families of a fair shot at admissions to the UC system.”

    So Rosenbaum is admitting that the whole COVID/disability angle is just a fraud. They simply want to do away with standarized testing forever. And lawyers wonder why people often think that lawyers are sleezy.

  41. Dave says:

    In general, older liberals piously spout all the latest trendy beliefs but don’t really believe them, though many wish they could. The true believers are the younger liberals, devoid of life experience and historical context, fanatical Red Guards eager to root out all heresy against this week’s party line.

    It’s like 1985 in the Soviet Union — the old guard is dying off and they can’t find any younger people stupid enough to believe in Marxism but smart enough to run a country.

  42. Dan Hayes says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve,

    Unfortunately as you well know, these too few are the exceptions which prove the rule!

  43. @Anon

    Jackson’s article is a must read for any teacher in America. I’ve linked to it here.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2016/08/a-white-teacher-speaks-out/

    • Agree: Lot
  44. @TelfoedJohn

    They gathered data which showed that college graduates were more well off in life as a whole and concluded that, “Therefore, if everyone is a college graduate, then everyone will be more well off!”.

    Obviously, “they” themselves didn’t benefit from college. Inductive and deductive Logic elude them. Their diploma gave them the illusion of smarts and emboldened them to wreck havoc on the world with their half-baked theories. They honestly don’t comprehend our thinking. They only compare themselves to those lower on the IQ totem pole, from which they are led to believe that they are geniuses.

  45. Lot says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    “ As Ron Unz has pointed out, Jews don’t do that well on standardized tests anymore.“

    Using the same famous rigor by which he concludes Mexicans will soon have white level IQs and already have white crime rates.

    • LOL: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Thomm
  46. J says:
    @Altai

    The drop of Jewish participation can be explained by demography: (1) For the last seventy years, Jews had the lowest fertility and by now the number of young Jews has contracted dramatically, (2) Jews have been assimilating and intermarrying to the point that few of those in college age are “four Ashkenazi grandparents Jews”. More and more they are garden variety American middle class. Ashkenazi youths are found in yeshives studying Gemara and uninterested in science careers.

    • Replies: @Lot
  47. Lot says:
    @Altai

    Assuming this is true, is it because Jews somehow are doing worse on high quality tests of mental ability, or that their share of the world population is a fraction of what it was in the 1880-1930 birth cohorts?

  48. And, I’d say, that hypocrisy is a good thing. Hypocrisy is better than stupidity when you are in charge of important functions.

    As de La Rochefoucauld said “hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue”. Stupidity though, just inverts virtue on its head.

  49. @Bill Jones

    And the lawsuit was brought by a Rosenbaum, who threatened other schools in his statement.

    They truly are our misfortune

  50. JosephB says:
    @Jack D

    I took his reference to the elites to mean he was referring to colleges in the top 10 or top 20. I doubt the elites would care if East Swamp State was 70% Asian.

  51. Farenheit says:

    If memory serves, when Prop 209 was passed in California, (race blindness in University admissions, among other things) the number of blacks admitted to UC Berkeley halved, but the number of graduates stayed the same.

    So there will be very interesting gyrations trying to square that circle.

  52. turtle says:
    @Mike Tre

    Now we know how Sandia Labs will solve its “lack of diversity” problem.
    “Stockpile stewardship,” indeed.

    • Replies: @Escher
  53. guest007 says:

    In Hillbilly Elegy, J.D. Vance wrote that he has over 1400 on this math/vebal SAT. That is the kind of score that Ohio State would try to require since it was higher than their average SAT scores and the scores indicate the type of intelligent blue collar student who probably did not have school and home environments conducive for creating the type of academic resume that rich white kids have.

    If you eliminate SAT/ACT scores the J.D. Vance’s of the world will have a harder time trying to escape their life situation because there will be no way to demonstrate talent.

    • Agree: Cortes, res, notsaying
    • Replies: @anon
    , @John Mansfield
  54. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Much of leftist ideology is based on the idea of ‘white daddy will fix it.’

  55. @Bill Jones

    “Brad Seligman”

    Quelle surprise.

    Being ruled by the Brad Seligmans and Mark Rosenbaums is just so much better than having a republic.

    Suck in the air of Jewish attitude and arrogance:

    Rosenbaum said he and his team targeted only the UC system to efficiently manage the case but that the court’s reasoning should apply to all colleges and universities, both public and private, across the country.

    “If other universities don’t follow, we’ll come after them as well,” he said, adding that he would be conferring with civil and disability rights advocates in other states. …

    Private? Private shimivate. That’s no excuse for not doing as we tell you to do.

    Republicanism? Majority rule? Separation of powers? Federalism? … even simply i’ll run my college, my way you run yours, your way?

    Nope. They know better then you goy. Natural born totalitarians.

    ~~

    Slavery was an end-to-end disaster for America. Yet my ancestors managed the mess–up and downs!–for 180+ years and in 1960 we had a very pleasant, prosperous nation that was … ours.

    50 years of Seligman and Rosenbaum … our republic is gone, or borders are gone, now rule of law is gone. We’re a dystopian shithole with legacy prosperity. Actual America is patches of whiteness in the countryside … slowly melting away.

    Biggest damn fool mistake ever.

    • Agree: Ben tillman, Adam Smith
    • Replies: @vinteuil
  56. @Buzz Mohawk

    The Wuhan Flu is being used as an excuse to change a lot of things, and most people seem to be going along with it.

    Absolutely.

    The sheeplike response by the most people seems to prove they are unworthy of their liberty.

  57. @Redneck farmer

    Red, I like that…”The Problems.” How long did “The Troubles” rack Ireland.

  58. Easy fix: Have the tests created by an exclusively black committee.

    • Disagree: TheTrumanShow
  59. @Mike Tre

    Mike, lots of blacks think White kids are born with a college diploma and a career in their tiny fists. Then they get this reinforced by Whites who talk of White privilege.

    • Agree: bruce county
  60. @PhysicistDave

    PD, you are a good man. Stay safe.

  61. Alden says:
    @PhysicistDave

    This is the crazy roommate situation your daughter ran into isn’t it? Unfortunately I can’t think of any media that would be sympathetic. Unless you want to hire whatever public relations people call themselves nowadays.

    Did The Bruin cover it? My solution to most problems is speak with an attorney. UCLA is a dorm landlord and there might be liability issues.

  62. Kronos says:

    I can see some type of sci-fi dystopian LSD “emotional intelligence” replacement for the SAT/ACT still having the same problems.

  63. Anon[331] • Disclaimer says:

    They are trying to turn the elite UCs into more like the elite privates using holistic admission. Hispanics have made great inroads in elite college admissions but not blacks. So far, the only top 10 schools that have made the SAT optional for 2020-21 are Columbia, Cornell, UPenn and Dartmouth. HYPSM all still require the SAT/ACT, only making the SAT II subject tests optional. Caltech is shockingly not accepting SAT/ACT for the next two years, maybe they are hoping to “reset” their demographics to be more inline with other elites, like those of Stanford and MIT:

    UCB:
    Black: 3%
    Hispanic: 15%
    Asian: 43%
    White: 21%
    Unknown: 5%
    International: 13%

    UCLA:
    Black: 6%
    Hispanic: 21%
    Asian: 35%
    White: 25%
    Unknown: 3%
    International: 9%

    Stanford:
    Black: 6%
    Hispanic: 16%
    Asian: 22%
    White: 34%
    Two or more races: 9%
    International: 10%

    Harvard:
    Black: 9%
    Hispanic: 11%
    Asian: 21%
    White: 39%
    Two or more races: 7%
    International: 12%

    MIT:
    Black: 6%
    Hispanic: 15%
    Asian: 28%
    White: 32%
    Two or more races: 7%
    International: 10%

    Caltech:
    Black: 8%
    Hispanic: 14%
    Asian: 40%
    White: 27%
    Two or more races: 1%
    International: 9%

    • Replies: @anon
  64. @The Last Real Calvinist

    But nothing in this fallen world is infinite.

    Yet so much in this woke world is infinitely infantile.

  65. (Brown, Goldstein & Levy)

  66. @Wilkey

    I think what the elites are realizing is that giving Hispanics and Blacks (roughly) proportional shares of the spoils is a better deal than giving Asians the 50-60-70% they would get if admittance were based on their test scores. Asians may be smarter than whites, on average, but they sure as hell aren’t that much smarter, so in a way I think the elites are right. Of course the elites don’t give two shits about middle class whites in flyover country, anyway, so why any of us should care is a mystery.

    If we’re going to play all these “diversity” games, flat out ethnic quotas are a less damaging way of managing “diversity” and political “spoils” than a lot of the lawyerly b.s. the judges have dreamed up–for example “disparate impact”.

    For instance, if Chicago decides that politically it needs to have a lot of black cops–not a terrible idea–then simply hiring them by quota is the best approach. Each class could match the demographics of Chicago–roughly 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 right now–by picking the top scoring applicants in each racial/ethnic bucket. Then the various races will have can have the very best available people nightstick and shoot their own people. Better optics. This is far, far better than “disparate impact” where to get a decent number of blacks, the applicant test is reduced to “write your name” and you end up sucking in garbage.

    But, of course, to do this you need to *keep* the discriminatory power of the test.

    Of course the elites don’t give two shits about middle class whites in flyover country,

    You can say that again!

    The reason we have nonsense like “affirmative action” and “disparate impact” but not “quotas” is because quotas are an anathema to Jews. Real quotas would including separating whites from Jews, which would radically drive down Jewish over-representation in elite institutions and raise flyover country gentile numbers, which would be good for America. (It wouldn’t be terrible to parse whites further and make sure that say the Scots-Irish, who pioneered the settlement of the nation and are over-represented in fighting Americas wars, are proportionately represented. They are probably the most underrepresented major ethnic group in elite universities today.)

    Abolishing the SAT is designed to insure political allocation–blacks and Hispanics, but including the overrepresentation of Jews who are at risk of being overwhelmed by Asian numbers and test-prepping.

    This is basically the worst of both worlds. Our “elite” masters just going around and tapping who is “worthy”. Trust me goy boy it won’t be you. Goy bye!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anon
  67. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Freud said that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And a mask is just a mask It doesn’t gag you. Surgeons have been wearing them forever and merrily yapping away. Drywallers, all sort of folks have worn them for years. They are not symbolic gags, they are not symbolic anything. Are seat belts symbolic ropes by which the state ties you down? Have fun getting ejected from your car in an accident if you think so.

    If, instead of destroying our economy, we had encouraged people to wear masks from Day 1, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now.

    But our betters lied to us and told us not to wear them. And their credibility is shit now that they have done a 180.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @El Dato
  68. anon[331] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Correction: Caltech is still accepting SAT/ACT, it’s just no longer required, but SAT II subject tests are “Not Considered” for the first time. Yale and MIT have followed the same path, no longer considering SAT II subject tests, though both still require the SAT — for now, Yale is reviewing their SAT requirement.

    Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Brown, Duke, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Northwestern and UMich still list SAT as required and SAT II as optional.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2020/06/09/updated-testing-policies-for-top-20-colleges-during-the-2020-2021-application-cycle/#7d9ef6444cea

  69. Muggles says:

    So now, in the rearranging, the Woke have the whip hand, and they are doing all sorts of stupid, dysfunctional things in the name of Racial Reckoning.

    Just wait until the Biden-Harris ticket gets into power. Current insanity is just the appetizer.

  70. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I’ve run into similar problems at various times. The people running this know that their rule is flatly against legal practice, and are using it to toss out your daughter. You’re looking at a kangaroo court, not a real one.

    You need a lawyer with a record of successful cases against the school. Somebody local to the branch, or local to the main office. Objective is to get the case to go away (as your daughter wants) by showing preparations for some kind of non-judicial action. Might cost something, but probably the only way you can get anything done. It might involve your daughter switching branches of the school, which would be a good idea anyway to thwart informal action by the attacker. You might consider filing a real police type assault charge against the assailant, with political backing from a person in your current state of residence. If that’s feasible, your CA lawyer would have more to work with. Check to see whether bringing your lawyer into the case will make you liable for the school’s legal costs (which can be arbitrarily high) before any lawyer contacts the school

    Move quickly and decisively, make them feel they are over their heads. Such affairs are as real as things get, and there are influential elements of the school that want your daughter on the street with no degree and owing considerable money. Move faster than they do, hit hard, and transfer to another branch would be my advice.

  71. @PhysicistDave

    My slogan: “Defund the universities!”

    That is actually more feasible today than it was then, now that we have edX, Coursera, etc.

    Spot on Phys. Dave.

    Like the printing press revolution, technology has blown open access to knowledge. No one needs to go to “college” anymore to learn anything. Access to not just written material, but actual lectures/instruction really is “at your fingertips”.

    About the only thing we need universities for are the science/engineering labs. The rest of it is a vast–and vastly expensive–nest of leftist parasites and propaganda.

    The remaining critical piece we need to break is just the credentialism. My boy–after a few years working–has gone back to do some graduate engineering. He’s 100% online the first semester, but is paying a packet. No reason at all, except that at the end getting the credential from with the university’s name stamped on it is important–job opportunities, advancement, $$$.

    We need credentialing exams to replace the sheepskin and we can pop these propagandizing parasitic pustules.

    • Disagree: botazefa
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  72. Jack D says:

    This same logic had already semi-destroyed the SAT because of “untimed testing”. Years ago, if you took the SAT with special accommodations, there would be a little asterisk next to your score indicating that you had received extra time or a reader or whatever. But then someone with literally no arms sued the College Board saying that it was unfair that their score was marked in this way. As part of the “settlement” (half the time I have the feeling that both sides are collaborating) they agreed that there would be no indication on the score report that the student had received accommodations.

    So far so good. I am glad for people with no arms, even though there aren’t many of those. But the ADA says that a “learning disability” (this used to be called “being stupid”) is just another form of disability. Say you are a rich suburban mom like Lori Loughlin who is seeking every advantage for their child. We know that such parents are willing to pay hundreds of thousand of $ even to get their kid into a 2nd tier school like USC. So for them to spend a few thousand $ on a psychologist to administer a battery of tests and certify that their kid is “learning disabled” and gets 50% more time to do the SAT is a no brainer. Whatever schools they apply to have no way of knowing that Junior got extra time so that his score is not really valid.

  73. @International Jew

    To think, if they’d been this woke in the 1970s, Physicist Dave Steve Sailer and I could have been classmates at Cal Tech State somewhere.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  74. Anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    I agree the fairest way is to go by a strict racial quota that reflects the general demographics, then let each demo compete within group rather than between group, which means all elite college demo should look like this:

    60% non-Hispanic, gentile White
    2% Jews
    13% Black
    16% Hispanic
    6% Asian
    2% Multiracial
    1% Native American, Hawaiian

    Another advantage of this system is Jews would immediately “correct” their actual count and come up with a more truthful number. Henry Ford said a century ago that Jews have a habit of deliberately under counting their number in every country. I suspect they are more like 6% to 10% of the population. I seem to run into them all over the East and West Coasts, and ever more are coming out of Minneapolis, Chicago and other big Midwestern cities.

    The alternative is to make our top 10 schools 100% black. Call it reparation.

    Another part of me is actually glad that gentile whites are enrolled in such low numbers in our elite colleges and more Asians are kept out. We don’t need more whites and Asians to drink their leftist/Jew Kool-Aid.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
  75. @vhrm

    Very well stated, vhrm.

    There’s some axiom that warns against tearing down an old fence until you figure out what that fence was put there for — there must have been a good reason and it just might still be in force. But the left is tearing it all down now without thinking through how things work and what might happen when they don’t

  76. @Jack D

    Yes, Jack, I know, but how long are you willing to go on wearing a mask? Please tell us. We are going on the better part of a year now, with no end in sight. (Oh, yes, there is the “vaccine” we are all supposed to wait for and then embrace and get stuck into our arms and our bloodstreams unquestioningly!)

    Drywallers, all sort of folks have worn them for years.

    Yep. As you may remember and can no doubt understand, I already had a box of N95 masks from Home Depot for dirty jobs at home. For example, I wore one when I used a circular saw to cut a hole in the concrete floor of our basement when I installed a sump pump.

    I thought you at least seemed to share my point of view about the Corona-Panic, but maybe I was wrong.

    Can you at least understand the symbolic significance — and the possible subconscious impact — of EVERYONE going around and interacting with masks over their speaking parts?

  77. Bannon says:

    I think the hypocrisy/stupidity question Steve raises partakes of two main explanations:

    1. The Mainstream Left (which is essentially just the mainstream culture) can easily forget (or veil itself) on how long aggressive measures have been in place to close the gap. (As Steve says, they forget they have been running things for 50+ years). In Orwellian fashion, they imagine things only turned in a brighter direction about 10 years ago, and they have a lot of catching up to do for generations of discrimination.

    2. They understand and believe there is a mental proficiency gap, but they imagine it to be much smaller than it really is. One of the disappointing and someone counter intuitive facts is just how big the black/white gap is in average intelligence. From watching television, sports, and shopping in white areas, one might imagine that it’s somewhere close. Many people have not spent much time in large black populations, deeply rooted with a full cross section, and unaffected by the selective pressures of things like a university, a woke company, a sports industry setting, or an entertainment setting. Nor have the looked at the literal mountains of data.

  78. Not Raul says:

    “Racist tests” is what it’s called when Judge Rosenbaum‘s children score lower than his wife’s manicurist’s children.

  79. danand says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    “But nothing in this fallen world is infinite.“

    One of the reasons Musk is seeking out other…worlds. Wonder how diverse Musk will choose to make his Million Man Mar’s population? Hoop talent primary for selection?

    5B994D16-66DA-4039-A9C4-C10295F0A983

  80. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    So now, in the rearranging, the Woke have the whip hand, and they are doing all sorts of stupid, dysfunctional things in the name of Racial Reckoning.

    Come on, the shitlibs still believe in the inviolability of admissions standards and the SAT. Well, ok, in some instances.

    https://www.inquirer.com/education/trump-university-of-pennsylvania-admissionpenn-eric-orts-20200828.html

    Penn professor renews call for investigation into how Trump was admitted to the university

    A professor at the University of Pennsylvania has renewed a request to investigate how President Donald Trump was admitted to the school in 1966, citing what he called “new evidence” on secretly recorded tapes in which Trump’s sister says a friend took his entrance exam.

    The professor, Eric W. Orts, is one of six faculty members who asked Penn’s provost earlier this summer to launch an investigation into how Trump transferred into the school. He noted that the president’s niece, Mary Trump, wrote in her book published in July that the president paid someone to take his SATs.

  81. Anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    We need credentialing exams to replace the sheepskin and we can pop these propagandizing parasitic pustules.

    Lol, it would be easier to get out of NATO and cut the Pentagon budget. In fact, defense spending is now a big part of higher education, especially in STEM.

    On the issue of self-education (autodidactism), Nassim Taleb has some great things to say about it in his book Antifragile (“An Antifragile (Barbell) Education”), pp. 243-248.

    “I am a pure autodidact, in spite of acquiring degrees…

    But there is something central in following one’s own direction in the selection of readings: what I was given to study in school I have forgotten; what I decided to read on my own, I still remember.”

  82. Are the companies that I suppose profit greatly from selling/licensing these tests doing anything to fight back — or are they bending over and just trying to somehow adapt to education’s super-woke future.

    In most stories about SAT or ACT it sounds like the tests just flutter downward from the sky by themselves, for free. We hear from the judges, the activists and the universities but what about the testing industry itself?

    • Replies: @Alice
  83. @Buzz Mohawk

    And we all thought the Chinese were bad for binding their women’s feet!

  84. Kronos says:
    @vhrm

    I’d argue this is a classic example of “The Parable of the Lost Sheep.”

    (I won’t lie, those two black marks under the eagle looks like poop.)

    He told them this parable. “Which of you men, if you had one hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn’t leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing. When he comes home, he calls together his friends, his family and his neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I tell you that even so there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance.”

    — Luke 15:3–7, World English Bible

    It’s true that roads, electricity, and “the good stuff” still work in the US, but with one glaringly absent exception: racial equality of outcome. The pursuit of that “lost” sheep (it never existed) guarantees the utter destruction of the entire flock. It’s been a Vietnam quagmire for the US for almost a century. The amount of blood and treasure spent on it is truly incalculable. The IQ/achievement gaps don’t change, the crime skews don’t change, and neither do the income skews/gaps change either. But we continue to pretend that a rapture of equality is right behind the bend. Either US society openly accepts revelations the powerful don’t like, or it’s extreme poverty for everyone everywhere.

    • Agree: theMann, TheTrumanShow
  85. @danand

    “Carry 100 passengers per flight” and “It would take roughly nine years to transport 1 million people.”

    [to Mars]

    Or, we could put 300 blacks on 150 airplanes taking off from America’s international airports 3 times a day and ship 42 million blacks back to Africa in a little less than a year.

    We would have rid ourselves of the major source of our problems and at far less expense than a colony on Mars.

    Others who don’t like our manners and morals could be relocated by the same means to wheresoever their hearts’ desire.

    • Agree: Sam Malone
  86. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    If we’re going to play all these “diversity” games, flat out ethnic quotas are a less damaging way of managing “diversity” and political “spoils” than a lot of the lawyerly b.s. the judges have dreamed up–for example “disparate impact”.

    That triggers all the Uncle Leo types who can tell you all about how there were quotas – quotas – in US colleges before the 1950’s that only allowed a certain number of Jews into college. Therefore quotas are anti Semitic, and the creation of NaziCossackAmalekites! Totally unacceptable.

    There is another way…

    This is basically the worst of both worlds. Our “elite” masters just going around and tapping who is “worthy”.

    …this is one traditional function of an aristocracy.

  87. Voltarde says:
    @vhrm

    These systems “just work” and 99+% of people never know anything about how they work or what it takes to get them to work.

    This article about digital photography illustrates how difficult it is to get things to “just work”:

    https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-history/silicon-revolution/how-the-digital-camera-transformed-our-concept-of-history

    It was 1974, and (Steven) Sasson, a young electrical engineer at Eastman Kodak Co., in Rochester, N.Y., was looking for a use for Fairchild Semiconductor’s new type 201 charge-coupled device. His boss suggested that he try using the 100-by-100-pixel CCD to digitize an image. So Sasson built a digital camera to capture the photo, store it, and then play it back on another device.

    Sasson’s camera was a kluge of components. He salvaged the lens and exposure mechanism from a Kodak XL55 movie camera to serve as his camera’s optical piece. The CCD would capture the image, which would then be run through a Motorola analog-to-digital converter, stored temporarily in a DRAM array of a dozen 4,096-bit chips, and then transferred to audio tape running on a portable Memodyne data cassette recorder. The camera weighed 3.6 kilograms, ran on 16 AA batteries, and was about the size of a toaster.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
  88. This solves the vexing White & Asian problem. UC Berkeley’s proportion of White new UG students fell by one third in just a few years. The Asian share has been frozen, but given the increasing growth rate of Asian students, since Asians increase the fastest of all ethnic groups via immigration, this is a form of subtler discrimination.

    This dual game cannot be played for long. So just abolishing the SAT/ACT works as a temporary band-aid. The longer-term fix is a custom test that can be adjusted/gamed on the fly to ensure greater ethnic discrimination. Will probably have ‘adversity scores’ and all the rest of it.

    What happens in California usually gets exported to the rest of America.

  89. Aardvark says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I have been hearing allegations for quite some time now that “standardized tests” are biased, racist and assorted other malcontent type claims.
    Has anyone ever seen what a proposed test would look like that isn’t biased or is specific to the group of people they think are disparately impacted?
    Until someone puts up, they ought shut up.
    If they have put up, then why doesn’t the activist judge rule that they have to use the adjusted version of the test?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @epochehusserl
  90. Ah good old Mr. Rosenbaum, healing the world one standardized test at a time.

  91. vinteuil says:
    @AnotherDad

    50 years of Seligman and Rosenbaum … our republic is gone, our borders are gone, now rule of law is gone. We’re a dystopian shithole with legacy prosperity.

    Perfect summation.

    I once loved my country. But I hate what my country has become.

  92. Kaz says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Yes, Jack, I know, but how long are you willing to go on wearing a mask?

    Is this a trick question?

    Probably until the vaccine is out or we hit herd immunity.

  93. FPD72 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It’s obvious that Seligman would no longer be allowed to write his column for Fortune. I faintly remember that he occasionally wrote about IQ, a now taboo topic.

  94. vinteuil says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The Wuhan Flu is being used as an excuse to change a lot of things…

    Those on the left who really understand their true goal should be kicking themselves, now, wondering: “why on Earth didn’t we think of this before? Why did we waste twenty years pushing global warming/climate change as an excuse for enacting into law every policy we have ever wanted…

    …when it turns out we could have accomplished far more in a matter of months with a “NEW DEADLY DISEASE!!!” panic?”

    In retrospect, the way the left used the AIDS hysteria of 40 years ago to their political advantage looks more & more like a dry-run for what they’re doing now.

    You’ve gotta admit – they’re really, really good at never letting a crisis go to waste.

  95. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Yep, exactly. I expect that there will be a vaccine that will give me immunity (or at least make it very likely that whatever Covid you get is experienced as a mild cold rather than a life-threatening disease) and then I won’t need to wear a mask anymore as long as I keep up on the annual shots. And yes, once the vaccine passes FDA approval I intend to get it, just like I get a flu shot every winter.

    This (and not masks) is how the West dealt with flu for many decades (though in parts of Asia it was normal for everyone to wear a mask in public, at least during flu season). And when I say Asia I don’t just mean Kommonist China, I mean democratic countries like Japan. Japanese are more conformist than Americans but no one in Japan thinks that wearing a mask to prevent spreading germs to your neighbors is somehow akin to being muzzled by the state or some sexual fetish. It’s just a damn piece of cloth over your face to help keep you from spreading (and inhaling) germs, it’s not a big deal.

  96. El Dato says:
    @Jack D

    I agree about the non-symbolism but whether masks are “effective” at anything for the public at large is still open.

    Politicians are hot for the idea of course: They get to tell people what to do AND nobody can accuse them of “not having done anything” later.

    Evidence that masks protect from Covid ‘not very strong in either direction,’ says UK’s deputy chief medical officer

    Some studies have found face coverings can help limit the spread of the virus, but mandates have led to a heated debate around the world.

    In the US, Democratic Party presidential nominee Joe Biden has promised a federal mask mandate if he is elected, something President Donald Trump has been resistant to, instead leaving mandates up to individual states.

  97. vinteuil says:
    @PhysicistDave

    My slogan: “Defund the universities!”

    Totally agreed. Music to my heart.

    But how do we go about this? Who is in charge of the state funding of the universities, public & “private” in this country? Is there anything at all that we can do about them?

  98. @Altai

    How many scientists are rich and powerful?

  99. East Asians wear masks for short periods of time, and you know it. Shots are not “how the West has dealt with the flu,” because they weren’t around for a long time. I have never had a flu shot and I have never had the flu in as long as I can remember since I had the Hong Kong one as a kid in the 1960s.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  100. @Buzz Mohawk

    Let me clarify that, because I posted it in haste: I have never had a flu shot, and I can’t remember the last time I had the flu. I’ve had it, but it must have been years ago now. Whenever it was, it didn’t leave much of an impression on me. Assuming you are a healthy man who is not old, Jack, I think you are more afraid than you need to be.

    Anyway, stay well, and thanks for the arguments, as usual.

  101. Escher says:
    @turtle

    This could lead to Putin launching a program to buy the stockpile of fissile material held by the US national labs, to keep the world safe from the new generation of Berkeley PhDs.

  102. notsaying says:

    Standardized tests reveal underachievers who are smarter than their school grades indicate. This is a very important service for students of ALL races and backgrounds. A lot of the underachievers would be troubled students and a lot would come from troubled homes — and sometimes both. They need to be rescued by counseling and a ticket to college if appropriate.

    I hope we have the sense not to get rid of standardized tests around the country. If they get rid of the SATs and ACTs, won’t they come next for other standardized tests? How about grades? Aren’t they biased against the disabled, minorities, etc., too?

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk, Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @turtle
  103. Good riddance … one more step on the road to abolishing Western Civilisation.

  104. anon[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @guest007

    If you eliminate SAT/ACT scores the J.D. Vance’s of the world will have a harder time trying to escape their life situation because there will be no way to demonstrate talent.

    That is a feature, not a bug. Not an accident, either.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  105. @vhrm

    These systems “just work” and 99+% of people never know anything about how they work or what it takes to get them to work, how much effort’s gone in over decades or centuries to get the thing to work as well as it does or pretty much anything about them other than whatever their own profession or job is.

    But isn’t that the way it should be? And actually a sign of a functional society?

    It would be massively inefficient if everyone had to be knowledgeable about everything going on in the world at all times. Specialization of labor means that I should be able to just take care of my life, while the forces of the free market and voluntary institutions will take care of themselves.

    The problem is that insane levels of government micro-management and the racial politicizing of the institutions has corrupted our society’s ability to the self-regulate. Now people really do need to waste their time on politics as a matter of self-protection.

  106. turtle says:
    @notsaying

    If they get rid of the SATs and ACTs, won’t they come next for other standardized tests?

    Maybe the East L.A. math test?
    https://www.smart-jokes.org/math-test.html

    • Thanks: notsaying
  107. Kronos says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I came across this on a quality meme website and found it hilarious!

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Carol
  108. @danand

    In actuality, a Mars colony would be hell, because the only thing keeping this country together are the non-woke over-30s. Imagine being stuck with 999,999 people who insist on using alternate pronouns and break down or blow up emotionally over imagined microaggressions, but you can’t leave or even go outside to escape for an afternoon!

    Plus, can we read iSteve on Mars?

  109. Up to the mid-19th century, college had been a prerogative of the wealthy.

    Merchant families, whose sons were destined to join the family business, would send their sons off to exclusive institutions, like Harvard & Yale, to study gentlemanly subjects, such as History, Religion, and Philosophy, and to network with other rich, young men (and their sisters).

    The University of [US State] was in large part established as a way to create technical drones for the benefit of the aforementioned rich people (i.e. their future bosses). Really.

    [MORE]

    Axiomatically, only students who had the aptitude and drive needed to master those rigorous, scientific disciplines were to be admitted; a relatively small number of men.

    (State U’s were endowed, at their inception, with assets (e.g. USG lands) large (valuable) enough to fund those institutions in-perpetuity. That is, as colleges were small and mission-limited, they were intended to be tuition-free.)

    FF to today ..

    • State U’s are gigantic bureaucracies.

    • State U’s are expensive; sci/tech majors pay some of the highest tuition rates therein.

    • Free-rides are granted to dunderhead jocks who have no interest in furthering their education, much less one in applied science.

    • Admission is based on skin color and other subjective factors, but increasingly blind as to whether the applicant is college material.

    • Replies: @anon
  110. JohnnyD says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I think you’re right. Just look at Jared Kushner.

  111. Simon says:

    Seligman added that little data existed to show whether the tests were even valid or reliable indicators of their future college performance.

    I’m guessing that the judge’s reasoning is fallacious.

    What I suspect he’s not taking into account is that SAT scores were already used in helping decide who got into college in the first place, with the highest scores determining, in part, acceptance at the most selective schools. The range of test scores at each college is therefore a limited one, and consequently the test will have less predictive value, since it has already been employed during the admissions stage.

    As Steven Goldberg, a former chairman of the sociology department at City College, CUNY, explains in When Wish Replaces Thought, “To the extent that a variable is used by a college in the selection process, the ability of that variable to predict performance at that college is diminished.”

    He goes on to imagine a college “that accepted only students with 800 SATs. At such a college, the students would exhibit the full range of grades. . . . Yet because all had the same 800 SAT scores, there would be no correlation at all between SAT score and college performance.”

    Similarly, no doubt, among the general population, height would be an excellent predictor of prowess on the basketball court — but would be distinctly less so if the field in question were confined to players over six feet tall.

    • Thanks: Happy Tapir
  112. Alice says:
    @Known Fact

    College Board, the makers of the SAT series, believes the future is the Advanced Placement (AP) exams, which have also become AP courses, and are a defacto national high school curriculum to replace a semester or two of watered down college courses. Each exam is nearly $100, paid out of pocket by the wealthy, but paid by state and fed funding for the poor. Schools and CB can have students take 4, 5, even 10 in high school. CB has worked to stop the courses being restricted to honors students, and has worked hard to get mediocre scores on them “count” toward college credits, which levels up how many students of color can be graduated with a bachelor’s degree, regardless of how little they know. AP courses now cover a host of subjects on no college core req list, garbage like enviromental science, geography, and physiology.

    ACT has entered the k-12 yearly testing market.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  113. Excal says:

    There’s at least one country out there with a large, organised, intelligent, and diligent population, which is rapidly building a network of good schools, and which is using grades and tests to identify talented students and place them in those schools. It may soon find itself with few competitors:

    “If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy. ..

    “.. If there is a change in sexual constraints, either increased or decreased restraints, the full effect of that change is not realized until the third generation.”

    This is from an article by Kirk Durston which discusses the book Sex and Culture, an exhaustive study of the collapse of civlisations throughout history, published in 1934 by Joseph D. Unwin. As Durston points out, we will soon enough have the opportunity to see for ourselves whether Unwin’s conclusions are correct.

    https://www.kirkdurston.com/blog/unwin

  114. @James Braxton

    Yeah. The average SAT score has increased dramatically at these schools, but the average candidate isn’t stunningly remarkable. The schools have become more Asian, but not any better.

  115. @Buzz Mohawk

    Mask are the White version of the Muslim’s Niqaab, and serve the same purpose: They are a symbol of submission.

  116. Lot says:
    @J

    All very true, except that by now, in women born 1980-2000, “four AJ grandparents and AJ spouse with same” is probably associated with the highest fertility of white socio-ethnic groups. Probably even higher than Mormons.

  117. And, I’d say, that hypocrisy is a good thing. Hypocrisy is better than stupidity when you are in charge of important functions.

    While this is true, I disagree with your implication that university admissions is an important function. Most of college is bullshit.

  118. Wilkey says:
    @Anon

    The irony being that no matter how you talk about who “deserves” to get more student slots at Harvard, Etc. – more Asians, more Jewe, more blacks, whatever – it is absolutely never the people ethnically related to those who founded the institutions. Most top American universities were founded by WASPs, but no one seems to care if WASPs are underrepresented.

  119. Bill says:
    @vhrm

    They are getting rid of the tests *because* they are a leveling institution. For pity’s sake, we see elites instituting policies which their spawn will clearly be the biggest beneficiaries of, and we explain this by “I guess they just don’t know what they are doing, silly elites.”

    For bonus points, how is regression to the mean relevant to the discussion?

  120. Bill says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    It’s an uninteresting question. Belief is a fragile, fickle, malleable, vaporous, ephemeral thing. Knowing what someone “believes” tells you nothing.

  121. @guest007

    The future is looking up for Thurston Howell VI, the new generation Harvard man who doesn’t know much, but is a genius at working his connections and enriching himself.

    • Replies: @guest007
  122. Cortes says:
    @anon

    The whole notion of social mobility will be even more precarious than hitherto. Welcome to the new caste system.

    Should be fine with Kamala.

  123. BB753 says:

    I can’t wait for the Ivy League to embrace the new guidelines: no SATs, less legacy, more true diversity in admissions. What can possibly go wrong?

  124. gregor says:

    The “historic decision puts an end to racist tests that deprived countless California students of color, students with disabilities, and students from low-income families of a fair shot at admissions to the UC system.”

    The tests are a great boon to an “underprivileged” kid who’s actually smart. The problem is most of them are not smart and the tests accurately reflect this reality.

  125. Carol says:
    @Kronos

    Except even BLM can spell “breathe” now.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  126. @Steve Sailer

    “Brad Seligman”
    Quelle surprise.

    My “iSteve” blog is modeled on Dan Seligman’s “Keeping Up” column in “Fortune” in the 1970s-80s.

    For what it’s worth, Dan was a cousin to Martin.

    Neither are a cousin to Morris Dees, though.

  127. @Aardvark

    I have been hearing allegations for quite some time now that “standardized tests” are biased, racist and assorted other malcontent type claims.

    Standards are racist. Period. Live with it.

    • Agree: Escher, TheTrumanShow
  128. Mr. Anon says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The safe word is “vaccine”.

  129. Are the other 98% of Americans allowed any say on the public policy of their own country, or must all issues be decided in court cases where the plaintiffs, defendants AND judges are all on the same side?

  130. anon[199] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Abolish_public_education

    ‘Up to the mid-19th century, college had been a prerogative of the wealthy.’

    Commie propaganda. While colleges varied, any interested scholar could get into college. Benjamin Franklin records the real reason for the Native American disappearance: Tribal chiefs complained to him that their young were going to colleges and marrying whites, no longer interested in the ‘old ways.’

  131. Ron Unz says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    As Ron Unz has pointed out, Jews don’t do that well on standardized tests anymore. Perhaps this new more “holistic” admissions process is meant to help them out, while marginalizing grindish East Asians.

    Of course, you can’t say that out loud, so everybody is pretending that this about helping out Blacks and Hispanics.

    Sure, I think that’s pretty obvious as a major element behind the current conflict. But there might be a very interesting historical aspect to this “Affirmative Action” issue, which I speculated about in a long article a couple of years ago. I’ll take the liberty of quoting my closing section:

    Many years ago as a young and naive undergraduate, I would usually spend my dinners discussing all sorts of political and policy issues with my fellow classmates in our Harvard dining hall.

    Affirmative Action was a regular topic of our conversations, and I would occasionally note how odd America was in that regard. No other example came to mind in which an ethnic group had established a legalized system of racial discrimination against its own members, while similar sorts of systems aimed at excluding or disadvantaging rival ethnic groups were all too common in world history.

    As the decades went by, I gradually noticed that the huge and continuing increase in the enrollment of non-white and foreign students at our most elite universities had caused a complete collapse in the enrollment of white American Gentiles, but oddly enough, no similar reduction in Jewish numbers. It was well-known that Jewish activists had been the primary force behind the establishment of Affirmative Action and related policies in college admissions, and I began to wonder about their true motivation, whether conscious or unconscious.

    Had the goal been the stated one, of providing educational opportunities to previously excluded groups? Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

    Asians represented an interesting test-case. As their numbers rapidly grew, white Gentiles were consequently pushed out, and this process was celebrated across the academic community. But by the late 1980s, Asian numbers had increased to such an extent that they inevitably began to impinge upon elite Jewish enrollment as well and future increases would surely worsen the situation. And at that point, the process suddenly halted, with Asian numbers being sharply reduced and thereafter permanently capped. The implications of this situation were already in the back of my mind when I published my 1998 Wall Street Journal column describing some of these striking racial facts.

    The current high-profile trial in Boston is widely portrayed by the media as a conflict between Asian-American groups, whose educational interests suffer under the current subjective and opaque admissions system, and black and Hispanic groups, whose numbers might be sharply reduced under some proposed changes. Whites are largely portrayed as bystanders, with Harvard indicating that their numbers would scarcely shift even under drastic changes in admissions policy. But the term “white” encompasses both Jews and Gentiles, and thus may conceal more than it reveals.

    The implications of my 2012 Meritocracy analysis are certainly well-known to all of the prominent participants and observers in the ongoing legal battle, but the fearsome power of the ADL and its media allies ensures that certain important aspects of the current situation are never subjected to widespread public discussion. Asian advocates rightly denounce the unfairness of the current elite academic admissions system, but remain absolutely mute about which American group actually controls the institutions involved.

    Throughout the enormous media controversy surrounding the Harvard trial in Boston, all sides are doing their utmost to avoid noticing the 2% elephant in the room. And that fact provides the best proof of the tremendous size and power of that elephant in today’s American society.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @JohnnyWalker123
  132. HBD-denialism is such a socially destructive force! “O What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.” Unwillingness to acknowledge average differences in cognitive ability across groups generates ever greater social costs.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
  133. @Jack D

    and then I won’t need to wear a mask anymore as long as I keep up on the annual shots

    The Age Of Pandemics has begun. If you think this is a one time thing you need to think again.

  134. @Jim Don Bob

    I’m not sure what you mean.

    What I was saying is that if in the 70s there’d been no SAT, with college admission determined politically/racially instead of meritocratically, then neither Sailer nor I would have gotten in to our high-end universities.

    I probably wouldn’t have gotten good grades either, in high school. I enjoyed high school, but I would have tuned out if the curriculum had been heavy on “woke” crap.

  135. guest007 says:
    @John Mansfield

    A word of caution in using Harvard when discussing college admissions. The University of Central Florida has almost as many undergraduates as the entire Ivy League. If changes are going to be made to help blue collar males, those changes are going to be made at the large state universities, particularly the state flagship universities like Ohio State. Creating a plan to get a few more blue colar whites into Harvard does little. Creating programs to get more blue colar whites into Michigan, UVA, UNC, Ga Tech, Texas, Ohio State, Wisconsin would have a much greater effect.

  136. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Admissions to UC system will depend on knowledge of Yid suffering.

    Knowing kosher symbols replaces AP testing.

  137. Anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Very brave article Ron, and on point. I have noticed that white enrollment in elite privates continue to decline, but in recent years they have been supplanted by Hispanics while Asian enrollment held steady at under 25%. Whites were over 50% a decade ago, then they went down to the 40’s, now they are down to 30’s or less, while Hispanic enrollment has steadily increased to now 10% to 17%. Here’s the 2019 freshman enrollment data for the top four:

    Harvard W: 34% H: 12%, A: 23% B: 9%
    Stanford W: 29% H: 17% A: 24% B: 7%
    Yale W: 36% H: 15% A: 23% B: 8%
    Princeton W: 39% H: 11% A: 25% B: 7%

    The low white enrollment at Stanford appears to correspond to their much higher Hispanic enrollment.

    There is also a corresponding rise in “Two or more races” at all four, from 7% to 10% at Stanford.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Ron Unz
  138. Mr. Anon says:
    @Alice

    College Board, the makers of the SAT series, believes the future is the Advanced Placement (AP) exams, which have also become AP courses, and are a defacto national high school curriculum to replace a semester or two of watered down college courses.

    Are these not also racist? Shouldn’t these also be banned? We shouldn’t be happy until the first day of classes at every university looks like the courtroom scene in Idiocracy.

  139. BenKenobi says:
    @Jack D

    It’s just a damn piece of cloth over your face to help keep you from spreading (and inhaling) germs, it’s not a big deal.

    No, it’s a symbol of your submission to Globohomo.

    Of course here you are peddling the “it’s no big deal, go back to sleep goy” angle.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  140. @Jack D

    This (and not masks) is how the West dealt with flu for many decades (though in parts of Asia it was normal for everyone to wear a mask in public, at least during flu season). And when I say Asia I don’t just mean Kommonist China, I mean democratic countries like Japan. Japanese are more conformist than Americans but no one in Japan thinks that wearing a mask to prevent spreading germs to your neighbors is somehow akin to being muzzled by the state or some sexual fetish. It’s just a damn piece of cloth over your face to help keep you from spreading (and inhaling) germs, it’s not a big deal.

    I think it’s merely prudent to wear a mask when you’re going to be in close proximity to strangers who might or might not be infected or people who might have been in that situation. However, it’s also possible that the claimed successes in the Far East have more to do with BMI than any consistent approach. Being rail-thin may be good for your health in ways other than cardiovascular:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass_index

  141. @The Wild Geese Howard

    This behavior would not be tolerated in a black school. Another reason for segregated schools.

  142. Alrenous says: • Website
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    A lot of both.

    Those lower down are aggressively ignorant. If you suggest facts to them, they will stonewall you. They are aware their beliefs are soap bubbles on a good day, and know what kind of facts they need to irrationally deny. This is largely down to knowing the side on which their bread is buttered.

    Those higher up must know what’s going on due to being able to poke it. They can make admissions and crime to up and down, and as such Conquest #1 will apply. Secondarily, unlike entry into the volunteer SJW corp, power is competitive. They must be competent enough to defeat their competitors, which precludes any significant amount of epistemic derangement.

    If the beliefs were genuinely genuine they would occasionally make mistakes. For example, they would back something to the hilt, but find out it favours RNC votes instead of DNC. Maybe they would retract it later, maybe not, but what we in fact see is few to no strategic mistakes. What we in fact see is the justifications going through all sorts of fanciful contortions to make sure of [kto kogo].

    They have a very firm idea of who their enemies are. This is the only thing they genuinely have fanatical belief in.

  143. Alrenous says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Getting high on your own supply is a known problem. If you need to lie to the public about what you’re doing, it’s a good idea to hire someone to tell the lies on your behalf. Ideally two layers, one told the actual truth that needs to be hidden, who in turn crafts a message for the second layer to field.

    At no point should a journalist even know the top layer’s name, let alone actually speak to one. E.g. interviewing scientific journal editors should be big news, but as far as I know this is literally never done. See also: talking to grant boards about who they’ve accepted and denied.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  144. @danand

    Nobody is going to Mars by 2050. We can’t even go to the moon 50 years after Apollo 11 “landed” there. But maybe by 2050 they’ll have enough computer power to accurately generate images of the stars’ appearance from space. The Apollo program never dared to exhibit a single photo of the stars from “space”. Astronaut Collins, in the Apollo 11 press conference, denied the stars were visible in cislunar or lunar space. Oddly, ISS astronauts rave about the beauty of the stars from the Space Station. Go figure. But people still believe in the Apollo myth.
    As for the Mars rover missions, ask yourself this: Given Mars’ atmospheric density is 0.6% that of Earth’s, what color would you expect the sky to be? Compare and contrast with the color of the Mars sky in Nasa footage. Hint: for those of you who’ve flown on military transports at 50,000 ft, what color was the sky?
    I don’t know what Musk is doing with all that money and effort. Maybe making space weapons, maybe just stealing money. He’s not building a rocket for Mars. The radiation environment of deep space is lethal given today’s technology. But if you really want to believe, feel free to do so.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
  145. @Aardvark

    The purpose of the test is not to actually pass the test, the purpose of the test is to become a source of endless counterproductive litigation. Judges like purposefully vague rulings because it adds to their caseload. The words diversity and inclusion are used to rationalize the group rights invented by the courts who were able to bypass the legislature in doing so.

  146. @BenKenobi

    No, it’s a symbol of your submission to Globohomo.

    Yup.

    In these parts they are opening up fun fall activities like the corn maze, hayrides, and the pumpkin patch, but only if you wear your mandatory face diaper!

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  147. @Ron Unz

    So there are several aspects to this.

    1. Jews perceive White Gentiles as their ethnic competitors. If aggressive affirmative action is mandated, White Gentiles can be pushed out of the elite universities by Blacks and other Non-White minorities. This blocks the entry of White Gentiles into the ruling class, which means that Jews will continue to hold the levers of power in their hands. Presumably, Jews don’t feel Blacks and Hispanics to be real competition.

    2. Due to generations of easy living, Jews have lost the drive to work hard, but still have a strong sense of entitlement. Under a regime of holistic admissions (which can easily be manipulated), Jews can sneak their “well-rounded” slacker children into elite universities. However, less “well-rounded” White Gentiles can be kept out, even if their test scores and GPAs are strong. So the total “White” percentage will be similar under either a holistic or a meritocratic system, but the Jewish/Gentile percentage will vary significantly. If the system transitioned to meritocracy (which can’t be easily manipulated), White Gentiles would benefit immensely at the expense of Jews, but the “White” percentage wouldn’t change.

    3. Asian admissions can be capped under a holistic system, as Asians aren’t “well-rounded” enough.

    Here’s another aspect to consider.

    Lots of upper-middle class White Gentiles do well under a holistic system, but would do less well under a meritocratic system. So a lot of them have an incentive to support the status quo. Lower/working/middle class Whites would do much better under meritocracy, but they have zero media/political clout and don’t even think of themselves as a cohesive ethnic group with common interests. Less affluent Whites also don’t have much ambition either, so they’re content to go to Alabama State rather than Harvard.

    So for a lot of reasons, the current system is stable.

    One question I have is this.

    I noticed that over the last 20 years, an extraordinarily large number of H-1bs have been brought into America. They’ve pushed many White Gentiles out of this lucrative sector. The given excuse is that these H-1bs have helped to alleviate “skills shortages.” A shockingly high percentage (close to 75%) are from India.

    After reading your article, it seems likely that perhaps Jews are trying to implement an ethnic displacement strategy in the software industry, using Indian coders as a weapon against White Gentile workers. Do you think this is possible?

    Thanks

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  148. @Anon

    Harvard W: 34% H: 12%, A: 23% B: 9%
    Stanford W: 29% H: 17% A: 24% B: 7%
    Yale W: 36% H: 15% A: 23% B: 8%
    Princeton W: 39% H: 11% A: 25% B: 7%

    The real story here:

    White gentiles are the most under-represented group at elite schools. Schools their ancestors built.

    — White gentiles are also the only group that is unrepresented both as population share and by their test scores (or any reasonable guess at academic worth/capability), while Jews are the only group that are overrepresented both by their population share and by test scores (or academic worth).

    My swag
    Pop Share W — J +++ A ++ H – B –
    Test scores W — J ++ A – H ++ B +++
    Capability W — J ++ A even H ++ B+++
    (where single +/- means greater or less than share; ++ means 2x or more, +++ means 10x)

    I’d put the focus on destroying both the college bubble and the outsized role of “Harvard” in our lives and restoring republican government. (But i’ll grant that’s a project.)

    To me in a free society private schools are … private. I.e. should have whatever admission policy they want.

    But if we’re going to quasi-nationalize these elite universities, give them this outsized role in our lives and have all these arguments over admission, then white gentiles need to stand up and point out what’s going on. Jews are basically running a minoritarian scam to preserve their children’s elite access and give favored minorities undeserved access while locking out white gentiles–particularly non-elite background flyover country white gentiles–of the elite institutions of the nation that their ancestors built.

  149. Ron Unz says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I noticed that over the last 20 years, an extraordinarily large number of H-1bs have been brought into America. They’ve pushed many White Gentiles out of this lucrative sector. The given excuse is that these H-1bs have helped to alleviate “skills shortages.” A shockingly high percentage (close to 75%) are from India.

    After reading your article, it seems likely that perhaps Jews are trying to implement an ethnic displacement strategy in the software industry, using Indian coders as a weapon against White Gentile workers. Do you think this is possible?

    Well, I suppose it’s possible. But I think that the overwhelming majority of H-1bs are very low-level coders brought in by Indian body-shops like Infosys mostly because they’re willing to work for low wages. And lots of American companies hire Infosys and its peers for exactly that reason.

    So while what’s going is harmful and ridiculous and should be stopped, I don’t know if it requires any sort of hidden explanation beyond various corporations trying to minimize their costs and maximize their profits. I doubt that more than a sliver of those H1-bs ever get lucrative positions.

    • Replies: @Sparkylyle92
  150. BenKenobi says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Many corporations are deciding to go mask-mandatory here at the tail-end of the hoax when lockdown restrictions have largely been lifted.

    I’d like to see the sales data on these companies pre and post mask policy. Might be interesting to see if there’s evidence of a silent boycott.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  151. @Ron Unz

    Low-level coders? I don’t even know what that is. Every software engineer I’ve seen or worked with in a long tech career has been highly skilled and highly paid. Yes, they may only make $70k while they have a green card, but they’ll get $100k as soon as their indentured servitude is over. All H1B’s are taking lucrative jobs from Americans. The Qualcomms and Googles brim with them.
    Of course it’s part of the assault on white native Americans.
    Most of them have graduate degrees from American universities. I went to a top UC school for graduate engineering. Almost all Asians, a smattering of non-asian foreigners, one or two Americans. At my school the policy was all engineering graduate students are fully supported financially including a stipend. Probably same at all UC’s. So the California and federal taxpayer was paying to train their replacements. If the admissions office had orders to take only foreigners, no one would be the wiser. I only got in due to a transfer from a professional certificate program, i.e. a loophole. But all those IIT graduate Brahmins were nothing special competition-wise.
    Until the 80’s American industry used only American engineers and programmers, but still kicked ass.
    H1B’s are just part of the Jewish full court press on white society, culture, prosperity and security.

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  152. Anon87 says:

    College isn’t about education anymore. Hasn’t been for a while. It’s all about making money.

    Racism is just a distraction from what colleges are in fear of; impending declining demographics and thus lower enrollment. That there are less college capable kids to go around was already a growing concern, even pre-COVID and the now impending collapse of a lot of schools. The bar was being lowered to get more warm bodies on campus, similar to the military needing to let the dregs in. Won’t end well for anyone.

  153. @Calvin Hobbes

    I regularly listen to history lectures recorded in colleges and universities in C-SPAN’s “Lectures in History” podcast. Over several years of playback. I have found that even with promising topics, I will often stop listening to the lecture if it’s one where the professor stops to ask the class questions in order to be inclusive and “interesting”. It’s a time waster, and particularly at schools below top rank, the student answers are usually rambling and dumb (“uh, like, the colonizers were mean to the natives so the natives like, got together?”) It slows down the pace a lot, and it ruins the enjoyment of hearing an expert in the field share their knowledge as I think about what they’re saying.

    A set of free online history lectures that I highly recommend are David Blight’s Yale history class lectures on the Civil War and Reconstruction era. They’re superb lectures and he really knows his stuff. The topics are in-depth and the classes were recorded well before the Current Year, so though he’s a liberal, they seem decently balanced.
    https://oyc.yale.edu/history/hist-119

  154. @Alrenous

    Discreet ways of corruption. The Great Gatsby style.

    Jonathan Franzen showed such a mechanism with regard to the Irak war military supply chain shenanigans which brought a warm rain of millions of dollars to a cohort of Republican Washington insiders. – Not too big a deal of course, but – nice to have.

    If a public sphere in a democracy works the way it should, it would mean that it is possible to lay bare the mechanisms of self-deception and moral corruption in elite circles too – maybe not necessarily up to 100 % but – you know – to a degree which really helps keep the main wells of decent (=ethically sound) behavior alive and – clean.

  155. @Sparkylyle92

    But if we’re going to quasi-nationalize these elite universities, give them this outsized role in our lives and have all these arguments over admission, then white gentiles need to stand up and point out what’s going on. Jews are basically running a minoritarian scam to preserve their children’s elite access and give favored minorities undeserved access while locking out white gentiles–particularly non-elite background flyover country white gentiles–of the elite institutions of the nation that their ancestors built.
    ————————————-
    The problem is that many whites would tell you to shut up about it if not outright assault you for even suggesting this is a problem.

  156. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Redneck farmer

    An entertaining story, but it contains one important idea: as technical power over nature increases, the importance of aesthetic judgement does to, because it’s the only thing that might prevent the arrival of Hell on earth. Too late for our dead gay country to make any use of this insight, unfortunately, but maybe our successors will learn the lesson.

  157. Ron Unz says:
    @Anon

    Here’s the 2019 freshman enrollment data for the top four:

    Harvard W: 34% H: 12%, A: 23% B: 9%
    Stanford W: 29% H: 17% A: 24% B: 7%
    Yale W: 36% H: 15% A: 23% B: 8%
    Princeton W: 39% H: 11% A: 25% B: 7%

    Actually, for those interesting in this subject I should mention that this website provides convenient access to the last 40 years of racial/ethnic/gender enrollment history of all our thousands of colleges and universities. Just go here and select a college name, then click on it:

    https://www.unz.com/enrollments/

    https://www.unz.com/enrollments/?r&ID=166027&Institution=Harvard+University

    Some of you might be relatively new here and not be aware of it.

  158. @BenKenobi

    Many corporations are deciding to go mask-mandatory here at the tail-end of the hoax when lockdown restrictions have largely been lifted.

    This is what the flunatics running my firm have done.

    We now must wear a diaper anywhere on company property outside our cubes, even when exiting our vehicles 100m from the building.

    Repeat violators will be cited, possibly terminated.

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