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  1. Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Talia Lavin, where have I heard that name? Oh yeah...

    ICE demands an apology after New Yorker fact-checker confuses war hero employee's Afghanistan platoon tattoo for a Nazi symbol

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5864049/Fact-checker-New-Yorker-confuses-ICE-employees-Afghanistan-platoon-tattoo-Nazi-symbol.html
     
    She was forced to resign from the New Yorker after this embarrassment but no worries, she didn’t starve, she was able to quickly find another paying job at Media Matters so she could keep up her fighting weight (super heavyweight class).
    , @Anonymous

    Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.
     
    I don't see or get the joke.
    , @Vinteuil

    Holodomor joke
     
    OK, so I'm an idiot. What's the Holodomor joke?
  2. Commentary editor John Podhoretz pulled the plug on his Twitter account on Wednesday after he faced backlash for a tweet suggesting journalism schools “should be neutron bombed.”

    In a tweet that has now made the rounds on social media, Podhoretz wrote: “Talia Lavin and Lauren Duca teaching at NYU J school is the best argument yet that J schools should be neutron bombed and their buildings given to Rick Singer for no show side door people.”

    Lavin is the former New Yorker fact checker who resigned after she falsely claimed on social media that an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent had a Nazi tattoo. She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right.

    Lauren Duca is a former contributor to Teen Vogue who became an internet sensation after she went on Tucker Carlson’s show and called him a “partisan hack.” She is teaching a class this summer at NYU where tweeting is part of the students’ grades.

    Lavin suggested Podhoretz’s Twitter account was axed for a bomb threat. (It wasn’t, a Twitter spokesperson confirmed. Podhoretz deactivated the account on his own.)

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/john-podhoretz-pulls-the-plug-on-his-twitter-after-his-remark-journalism-schools-should-be-neutron-bombed-sparks-backlash/

    BTW—Lauren Duca is very nice and would thrive under an Islamic master https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Lauren+Duca&FORM=HDRSC2

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Teen Vogue" sounds like something Roissy would make up.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Clyde, I remember when Teen Vogue published an article on safe anal sex.
    , @donut
    "She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right." Get the f**k out of here (with Elaine Benes shove ) , you made that shit up right ?
  3. JPod Deletes His Account

    If you mean his bank account, it will probably resurface in Liechtenstein or the Caymans.

  4. Anon[340] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: New Zealand has just banned Jordan Peterson’s book 12 Rules for Living, although it’s still legal to sell Mein Kampf, apparently. I wasn’t aware Peterson’s hippy dippy book was teaching people to shoot up mosques.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/shocking-new-zealand-bookstore-bans-jordan-petersons-self-help-book-12-rules-for-life-following-mosque-attack/

    If Peterson’s smart, he’ll sue for discrimination and shakes down the Kiwis for a bit of cash.

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.

    Is Stonetoss still legal in New Zealand?
    , @Art Deco
    The bookseller Whitcoulls took it out of the inventory for inane reasons. The government hasn't banned it.
    , @Oddsbodkins
    A bookstore chain there has pulled his books. He has not been banned by the government. Quite a difference.
    , @Jack D
    I know that New Zealand is a small country but I don't think it all fits in 1 bookstore. "New Zealand bookstore" and "New Zealand" are not the same thing. Apparently a single NZ Bookstore (chain?) has decided to stop selling that book. That's their private decision and has nothing to do with the NZ gov. nor can you sue a merchant for deciding to stock or not stock a particular book.

    I see this kind of conclusion jumping and exaggeration all the time now on the right and the left. Quit it.
  5. Gee, I wonder what will happen next.

    https://www.thewrap.com/nyu-journalism-talia-lavin-new-yorker-fact-checker-false-ice-agent-nazi-tattoo/

    New York University has hired Talia Lavin as an adjunct journalism professor less than a year after the former New Yorker fact checker resigned after falsely accusing an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent of having a Nazi tattoo.

    Everyone should sport a “Nazi tattoo”. Crosses, Triangles, Circles, Suns, Lightning Bolts, Handsigns … Heads would explode, Jews would be attacked by bare skin in the street, the Wokeupopcalypse would be tremendous.

    • Replies: @donut
    This : Blutgruppentätowierung
  6. “I doubt that the Strategic Air Command will neutron bomb NYU.”

    NYU would be worthy of a thermonuclear weapon, for maximum damage.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Clyde

    NYU would be worthy of a thermonuclear weapon, for maximum damage.
     
    From orbit, it's the only way to be sure. Science fiction movies has been feminized as in Avatar. Interstellar? My favorite era was from Alien (1979) to Terminator Two 1991 including Total Recall 1990.
    , @donut
    Once again :

    https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
  7. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/03/old-leftists-never-fade-away.php

    OLD LEFTISTS NEVER FADE AWAY….

    We wrote last June about New Yorker fact-checker Talia Lavin, who falsely accused a disabled veteran of being a “Nazi” because she misinterpreted his military tattoo. It made quite a stir at the time, and the New Yorker fired Lavin. Her libel of the amputee veteran wasn’t a one-off; she hates Republicans, or suspected Republicans, in general:

    The truth of the matter is that anyone who willingly declares themselves [sic] a Republican is aligning themselves [sic] with an administration whose official policy is to torment minorities, to empty the public purse both for private gain and for sheer cruel parsimony, to strip away healthcare from the afflicted and to comfort the wealthy.
    ***
    Anyone who is a current Trumpist might as well be an ICE agent ripping an 18-month-old child from its mother’s arms, or shipping a five-year-old boy to Michigan to dream of his father and weep in a stranger’s house.
    ***
    One companion to the legion of Trump-voter-as-curious-oddity portraiture is the endless stream of op-eds prevailing upon liberals to be more tolerant. To cease being smug. To simply reach across the aisle, grasp a hand, and speak softly, leaving the big stick at home.

    To which I say: tough nuts, sugar. When they go low, stomp them on the head.

    Surprisingly, Lavin’s ignorant and baseless libel of a disabled veteran didn’t end her career. On the contrary: she was immediately snapped up by Democratic Party propaganda outlet Media Matters to report on “far right extremism.” There is, many would say, an irony there.

    Not long thereafter, she embarked on an academic career. New York University hired her as a professor of journalism. Because insanely libeling people who might possibly be conservatives is just what NYU thinks journalists should do.

    New York University has hired Talia Lavin as an adjunct journalism professor less than a year after the former New Yorker fact checker resigned after falsely accusing an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent of having a Nazi tattoo.

    What will Professor Lavin be teaching to NYU students who pay way too much for the privilege? You guessed it:

    Lavin’s undergraduate course “Reporting on the Far Right” will kick off in the fall semester of 2019 at NYU’s Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute. In its official faculty bio, the university billed Lavin as an expert in “far-right extremism and social justice.”

    A neutral observer might say that Lavin, having accused a veteran of being a Nazi because he had a U.S. military tattoo, is an expert on far-left extremism. Needless to say, NYU doesn’t have any such course.

    While NYU’s administrators and faculty are probably beyond hope, a few students, albeit liberals, retain a measure of common sense:

    At least one current NYU journalism student questioned the decision to hire Lavin. “I sympathize with Lavin’s politics, but I don’t know why someone who had to quit their journalism job for falsely implying someone is a Nazi should be teaching at NYU,” said the student, who requested anonymity for fear of academic reprisal. “I know there are plenty of reporters out there in need of work who haven’t made a mistake like that.”

    “For fear of academic reprisal.” NYU, RIP.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.

    stomp them on the head.
     
    Let's be charitable and assume that she means this figuratively. In that vein we'll just sidestep the fact that her favorite foot-soldiers of "antifa" tend to take it literally--and get away with it.

    Professor of Journalism is the perfect job for her. Since Rolling Stone can't afford to hire just now.

    , @El Dato

    Lavin as an expert in “far-right extremism and social justice.”
     
    Far-right social justice? The Punisher comes to mind.
    , @Jack D
    Moderation is a Boomer thing. Say goodbye to that. A while ago I was listening to NPR in my car (that's the only time I listen and what I usually listen to since Phila. no longer has a full time classical station) and the NPR reporter was speaking with a NY Times female columnist (I forget which one) and the columnist was foaming at the mouth with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the Lavin mode. The NPR reporter tried to get her to dial it back a little and asked her whether she shouldn't try to be more objective as a journalist [i.e. hide her personal sympathies a little better] - this is NPR, not MSNBC but she refused to back away and doubled down further. It goes back to the old Barry Goldwater line:

    Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice.
     

    Except that each side has its own definition of "freedom".
    , @AnotherDad
    I have no problem with this Talia Lavin creature.

    We just don't belong in the same nation. She can live in her ICE-less, borderless, feminist utopia for as long as it lasts and i can live in a normal Western nation--America.

    All the world does not have to be sane and beautiful. There should be a place for crazy, slimy ugly creatures as well.
    , @donut
    "Anyone who is a current Trumpist might as well be an ICE agent ripping an 18-month-old child from its mother’s arms" .

    Twas the night before Yuletide and all through the Reich ...
    "The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While visions of dead brown babies danced in their heads"
  8. @Clyde
    Commentary editor John Podhoretz pulled the plug on his Twitter account on Wednesday after he faced backlash for a tweet suggesting journalism schools “should be neutron bombed.”

    In a tweet that has now made the rounds on social media, Podhoretz wrote: “Talia Lavin and Lauren Duca teaching at NYU J school is the best argument yet that J schools should be neutron bombed and their buildings given to Rick Singer for no show side door people.”

    Lavin is the former New Yorker fact checker who resigned after she falsely claimed on social media that an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent had a Nazi tattoo. She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right.

    Lauren Duca is a former contributor to Teen Vogue who became an internet sensation after she went on Tucker Carlson’s show and called him a “partisan hack.” She is teaching a class this summer at NYU where tweeting is part of the students’ grades.

    Lavin suggested Podhoretz’s Twitter account was axed for a bomb threat. (It wasn’t, a Twitter spokesperson confirmed. Podhoretz deactivated the account on his own.)

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/john-podhoretz-pulls-the-plug-on-his-twitter-after-his-remark-journalism-schools-should-be-neutron-bombed-sparks-backlash/


    BTW---Lauren Duca is very nice and would thrive under an Islamic master https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Lauren+Duca&FORM=HDRSC2

    “Teen Vogue” sounds like something Roissy would make up.

    • Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster
    Lianna Aghajanian, a Teen Vogue "reporter" was sent to Hamtramck, MI (now run by immigrants from Bangladesh and Yemen) a couple of years ago to tell us that “[t]he city has been subject to a narrative full of inaccuracies, but the real story is just how quintessentially American it is.” Hamtramack, when I grew up in Michigan was run by Polish immigrants.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/12/islamophobobia-and-destruction-of.html
  9. Teen Vogue is for teens.

    Teen Vogue in its own words:

    https://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

    • Replies: @jon
    There is a video at your link on the myth of bra-burning. This is apparently a myth because, according to the video: "In reality, few bras were actually burned, and they only burned for a brief period of time."

    Interesting logic. I wonder how many burning bras (and for how long) would have been required to make what actually happened become more than just a myth.
  10. “Teen Vogue” sounds like something Roissy would make up.

    It should have been. The real test is, is this magazine *dead trees* level of competence? They were from 2004 to 2017. Now just a website.
    Websites become more ephemeral as young ones flit through on small screens, smart phones/ Hence the rise of twitter with its instant dopamine satisfactions.

  11. @Anon
    OT: New Zealand has just banned Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Living, although it's still legal to sell Mein Kampf, apparently. I wasn't aware Peterson's hippy dippy book was teaching people to shoot up mosques.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/shocking-new-zealand-bookstore-bans-jordan-petersons-self-help-book-12-rules-for-life-following-mosque-attack/

    If Peterson's smart, he'll sue for discrimination and shakes down the Kiwis for a bit of cash.

    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.

    Is Stonetoss still legal in New Zealand?

    • Replies: @Lurker

    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.
     
    Which is why people entertain the idea that it was a set-up of some kind. Soo convenient.

    If the shooter was a woke as his manifesto implies then he would understand this perfectly. Ergo he's not what he seems.

    I've seen the video (making me a criminal if I were in NZ) and it's filmed with a potato. There are a number of puzzling aspects to what it depicts. As a bonus, all the MSM stories of Muslim bravery are conveniently alleged to have happened after the video ends.
    , @Logan
    To be accurate, NZ did not ban the book, one bookstore chain chose to stop carrying it.

    Stupid, but not government censorship.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Is Stonetoss still legal in New Zealand?
     
    Stonetoss is illegal in all nations other than Bhutan and Belarus.
    , @Jack D
    The other day I was listening to a discussion on gun control on NPR in my car - the very pro debater (that was the debate - between someone pro gun control and someone VERY pro gun control - this is the acceptable range of opinion on NPR) was bemoaning the fact that in other countries a single massacre is enough to get guns banned (and she listed all the countries where that had happened) but much to her chagrin (that pesky Constitution again) this never seems to work in the US.
  12. Oh my!

    ….Then they came for JPod, and I did not speak out…
    Because I was not JPod…..

    • Replies: @Lurker
    First they came for JPod and I said . . . thats him over there, let me help you.
  13. First the J schools. Then the othee grievance schools.

  14. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:

    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?

    • Replies: @Lurker
    A friend has pointed out that the Current Year use of the word "standup" - omitting "comedy" and "comedian" is telling. Though entirely accurate in this case.
    , @Gunner
    This dumb “woke” slacktivist is saying “midget” more than any racist, Southern grandpa I have ever seen.
    , @Forbes
    She apparently learned her "standup" act from SNL, which hasn't been funny for two decades...
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    The spicy, assured internet personae never match the reality, do they?
    , @216
    Does she support unilateral disarmament of Israel's unregulated nuclear weapons ?

    Of course not.
    , @DFH
    'I'm Jewish and a woman'

    Saved you four and a half minutes
    , @Jim Christian
    Talia also would get along well with Muslim masters. She smokes, she's chubby, fat actually, ugly butta-face, has a weird shape. But with jugs. Am I allowed to say jugs?
    , @fish
    One would think that being a smoker she might drop a few pounds…...
    , @donut
    Is this an example of Jew Privilege or was it filmed for educational purposes in some mental health care facility ?
  15. @wren
    Teen Vogue is for teens.

    Teen Vogue in its own words:

    https://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

    There is a video at your link on the myth of bra-burning. This is apparently a myth because, according to the video: “In reality, few bras were actually burned, and they only burned for a brief period of time.”

    Interesting logic. I wonder how many burning bras (and for how long) would have been required to make what actually happened become more than just a myth.

  16. I suppose both of these women count as being in the “workforce” — but what useful “work” is actually done by them? — how many other women in the “workforce” are employed doing similarly useless “work”? — “work” that is often funded by taxpayers (in many “workforce” analyses you will find government described as an “industry”).

  17. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:

    The New Yorker “fact checker,” Talia Lavin, did quite a bit of writing at the magazine, 31 pieces:

    https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/talia-lavin

    This one is autobiographical, in the guise of a recipe for chicken soup:

    https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/leaving-a-religion-and-a-marriage-and-gaining-a-chicken-soup

    I left Orthodox Judaism when I left home, and I’ve never made a Jewish chicken soup since. When I return to my family’s table, it’s as a prodigal, wisecracking, chain-smoking daughter.

    At twenty-seven, I have not yet learned to cook for just myself. For seven years, when I cooked at all, I cooked for the man who became my husband when I was twenty-four. At our wedding, the food was good—I don’t remember what we ate, but I remember that we continued eating throughout the toasts.

    We were married for two years: enough time to acquire a KitchenAid mixer but not enough to acquire children, enough time to share a studio apartment but not enough to buy a house. When I moved out, I took the pitcher shaped like an elephant and most of the platters, but I left in such a hurry that half my books remained.

    Some months after the divorce, I invited more friends than could fit into my tiny living room for a dinner. I laid out a card table that jutted into the kitchen, arranging folding chairs whose backs knocked the walls and caught at the door’s handle. I made scalloped potatoes. I blanched asparagus.

    The friends I invited had seen me sob in broad daylight when my husband first left. They had fielded calls at unreasonable hours. In return, I made them avgolemono.

    This must be what got her the NYU job:

    https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-neo-nazis-of-the-daily-stormer-wander-the-digital-wilderness

    • Replies: @William Badwhite

    I’ve never made a Jewish chicken soup since
     

    wisecracking, chain-smoking

     


    The friends I invited had seen me sob in broad daylight when my husband first left.
     
    I guess its a mystery as to why her husband left. A fat, wisecracking, chain-smoking woman that can't cook is what most guys dream about.
    , @dr kill
    Wait, so who left whom? She actually might be a graduate-level journalist, because the confusion her article creates.
    , @donut
    Yeah , I guess that's why lawyers in criminal cases don't put their clients on the stand .
  18. Even for someone as violent as Podhoretz, saying that Jewish schools should be neutron-bombed seems a bit extreme. I am disappointed twitter allows such hate on its platform.

  19. @Steve Sailer
    "Teen Vogue" sounds like something Roissy would make up.

    Lianna Aghajanian, a Teen Vogue “reporter” was sent to Hamtramck, MI (now run by immigrants from Bangladesh and Yemen) a couple of years ago to tell us that “[t]he city has been subject to a narrative full of inaccuracies, but the real story is just how quintessentially American it is.” Hamtramack, when I grew up in Michigan was run by Polish immigrants.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/12/islamophobobia-and-destruction-of.html

  20. What’s this stuff about Rick Singer and side door people mean? Don’t get it.

    (Pity. JPod tweets something I actually agree with (as far as I understand it) then deletes his account. Sad!)

  21. @wren
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/03/old-leftists-never-fade-away.php


    OLD LEFTISTS NEVER FADE AWAY….

    We wrote last June about New Yorker fact-checker Talia Lavin, who falsely accused a disabled veteran of being a “Nazi” because she misinterpreted his military tattoo. It made quite a stir at the time, and the New Yorker fired Lavin. Her libel of the amputee veteran wasn’t a one-off; she hates Republicans, or suspected Republicans, in general:

    The truth of the matter is that anyone who willingly declares themselves [sic] a Republican is aligning themselves [sic] with an administration whose official policy is to torment minorities, to empty the public purse both for private gain and for sheer cruel parsimony, to strip away healthcare from the afflicted and to comfort the wealthy.
    ***
    Anyone who is a current Trumpist might as well be an ICE agent ripping an 18-month-old child from its mother’s arms, or shipping a five-year-old boy to Michigan to dream of his father and weep in a stranger’s house.
    ***
    One companion to the legion of Trump-voter-as-curious-oddity portraiture is the endless stream of op-eds prevailing upon liberals to be more tolerant. To cease being smug. To simply reach across the aisle, grasp a hand, and speak softly, leaving the big stick at home.

    To which I say: tough nuts, sugar. When they go low, stomp them on the head.
     
    Surprisingly, Lavin’s ignorant and baseless libel of a disabled veteran didn’t end her career. On the contrary: she was immediately snapped up by Democratic Party propaganda outlet Media Matters to report on “far right extremism.” There is, many would say, an irony there.

    Not long thereafter, she embarked on an academic career. New York University hired her as a professor of journalism. Because insanely libeling people who might possibly be conservatives is just what NYU thinks journalists should do.

    New York University has hired Talia Lavin as an adjunct journalism professor less than a year after the former New Yorker fact checker resigned after falsely accusing an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent of having a Nazi tattoo.
     
    What will Professor Lavin be teaching to NYU students who pay way too much for the privilege? You guessed it:

    Lavin’s undergraduate course “Reporting on the Far Right” will kick off in the fall semester of 2019 at NYU’s Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute. In its official faculty bio, the university billed Lavin as an expert in “far-right extremism and social justice.”
     
    A neutral observer might say that Lavin, having accused a veteran of being a Nazi because he had a U.S. military tattoo, is an expert on far-left extremism. Needless to say, NYU doesn’t have any such course.

    While NYU’s administrators and faculty are probably beyond hope, a few students, albeit liberals, retain a measure of common sense:

    At least one current NYU journalism student questioned the decision to hire Lavin. “I sympathize with Lavin’s politics, but I don’t know why someone who had to quit their journalism job for falsely implying someone is a Nazi should be teaching at NYU,” said the student, who requested anonymity for fear of academic reprisal. “I know there are plenty of reporters out there in need of work who haven’t made a mistake like that.”
     
    “For fear of academic reprisal.” NYU, RIP.

    stomp them on the head.

    Let’s be charitable and assume that she means this figuratively. In that vein we’ll just sidestep the fact that her favorite foot-soldiers of “antifa” tend to take it literally–and get away with it.

    Professor of Journalism is the perfect job for her. Since Rolling Stone can’t afford to hire just now.

  22. The Pod fils is going to bring us around to begging him to renew his tweets.

  23. OT:
    I had thought that this would have really blown up by now; but what do I know?

    • Replies: @donut
    It's apparently old news . See Tim Pool .
  24. @Don't Look at Me
    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.

    Is Stonetoss still legal in New Zealand?

    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.

    Which is why people entertain the idea that it was a set-up of some kind. Soo convenient.

    If the shooter was a woke as his manifesto implies then he would understand this perfectly. Ergo he’s not what he seems.

    I’ve seen the video (making me a criminal if I were in NZ) and it’s filmed with a potato. There are a number of puzzling aspects to what it depicts. As a bonus, all the MSM stories of Muslim bravery are conveniently alleged to have happened after the video ends.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    Which is why people entertain the idea that it was a set-up of some kind. Soo convenient.
     
    "False flag" is always the excuse of apologists for a cause. Terrorist attacks are rarely if ever false flag operations, not Muslim ones and not WN ones. "Who benefits" is not an accurate test - people often do stuff that is self-defeating to themselves and their movements.
  25. Whenever I hear of this mythic “journalism” business, the question occurs: “Who is organizing and funding the caravans?”

    Journalism my ass.

  26. @Daniel H
    Oh my!

    ....Then they came for JPod, and I did not speak out...
    Because I was not JPod.....

    First they came for JPod and I said . . . thats him over there, let me help you.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • LOL: peterike, Tusk
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    LOL. While Sailer likes to make sport of JPod it is all elevated and humorous. JPod will see how nasty those of the left can be. He already has by deleting his Twitter account. He thinks the mob will respect him for being part of the #Resistance. Yeah, right. Their THC-created paranoid schizophrenia will make him an outlet for there psychotic rage.
  27. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    A friend has pointed out that the Current Year use of the word “standup” – omitting “comedy” and “comedian” is telling. Though entirely accurate in this case.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Wasn't it auto-cultist Ayn Rand who said that in Soviet Russia, no-one is laughing?
  28. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    This dumb “woke” slacktivist is saying “midget” more than any racist, Southern grandpa I have ever seen.

    • Replies: @anon
    Norm MacDonald did it better.
  29. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.

    https://twitter.com/chick_in_kiev/status/1108478822251446273?s=21

    Talia Lavin, where have I heard that name? Oh yeah…

    ICE demands an apology after New Yorker fact-checker confuses war hero employee’s Afghanistan platoon tattoo for a Nazi symbol

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5864049/Fact-checker-New-Yorker-confuses-ICE-employees-Afghanistan-platoon-tattoo-Nazi-symbol.html

    She was forced to resign from the New Yorker after this embarrassment but no worries, she didn’t starve, she was able to quickly find another paying job at Media Matters so she could keep up her fighting weight (super heavyweight class).

  30. @Don't Look at Me
    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.

    Is Stonetoss still legal in New Zealand?

    To be accurate, NZ did not ban the book, one bookstore chain chose to stop carrying it.

    Stupid, but not government censorship.

  31. JPod quits Twitter every 3 or 4 months, for various reasons. This sad, strange little man will be back tweeting in a week or two.

  32. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lurker
    First they came for JPod and I said . . . thats him over there, let me help you.

    LOL. While Sailer likes to make sport of JPod it is all elevated and humorous. JPod will see how nasty those of the left can be. He already has by deleting his Twitter account. He thinks the mob will respect him for being part of the #Resistance. Yeah, right. Their THC-created paranoid schizophrenia will make him an outlet for there psychotic rage.

  33. Yes, yes, embrace the Boomerosity, John!

  34. @wren
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/03/old-leftists-never-fade-away.php


    OLD LEFTISTS NEVER FADE AWAY….

    We wrote last June about New Yorker fact-checker Talia Lavin, who falsely accused a disabled veteran of being a “Nazi” because she misinterpreted his military tattoo. It made quite a stir at the time, and the New Yorker fired Lavin. Her libel of the amputee veteran wasn’t a one-off; she hates Republicans, or suspected Republicans, in general:

    The truth of the matter is that anyone who willingly declares themselves [sic] a Republican is aligning themselves [sic] with an administration whose official policy is to torment minorities, to empty the public purse both for private gain and for sheer cruel parsimony, to strip away healthcare from the afflicted and to comfort the wealthy.
    ***
    Anyone who is a current Trumpist might as well be an ICE agent ripping an 18-month-old child from its mother’s arms, or shipping a five-year-old boy to Michigan to dream of his father and weep in a stranger’s house.
    ***
    One companion to the legion of Trump-voter-as-curious-oddity portraiture is the endless stream of op-eds prevailing upon liberals to be more tolerant. To cease being smug. To simply reach across the aisle, grasp a hand, and speak softly, leaving the big stick at home.

    To which I say: tough nuts, sugar. When they go low, stomp them on the head.
     
    Surprisingly, Lavin’s ignorant and baseless libel of a disabled veteran didn’t end her career. On the contrary: she was immediately snapped up by Democratic Party propaganda outlet Media Matters to report on “far right extremism.” There is, many would say, an irony there.

    Not long thereafter, she embarked on an academic career. New York University hired her as a professor of journalism. Because insanely libeling people who might possibly be conservatives is just what NYU thinks journalists should do.

    New York University has hired Talia Lavin as an adjunct journalism professor less than a year after the former New Yorker fact checker resigned after falsely accusing an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent of having a Nazi tattoo.
     
    What will Professor Lavin be teaching to NYU students who pay way too much for the privilege? You guessed it:

    Lavin’s undergraduate course “Reporting on the Far Right” will kick off in the fall semester of 2019 at NYU’s Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute. In its official faculty bio, the university billed Lavin as an expert in “far-right extremism and social justice.”
     
    A neutral observer might say that Lavin, having accused a veteran of being a Nazi because he had a U.S. military tattoo, is an expert on far-left extremism. Needless to say, NYU doesn’t have any such course.

    While NYU’s administrators and faculty are probably beyond hope, a few students, albeit liberals, retain a measure of common sense:

    At least one current NYU journalism student questioned the decision to hire Lavin. “I sympathize with Lavin’s politics, but I don’t know why someone who had to quit their journalism job for falsely implying someone is a Nazi should be teaching at NYU,” said the student, who requested anonymity for fear of academic reprisal. “I know there are plenty of reporters out there in need of work who haven’t made a mistake like that.”
     
    “For fear of academic reprisal.” NYU, RIP.

    Lavin as an expert in “far-right extremism and social justice.”

    Far-right social justice? The Punisher comes to mind.

  35. O/T

    lol

  36. OT, but oh so iStevey. Harvard dropout chick claims to have come up with a cheatproof test to replace SATs.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-21/meet-harvard-dropout-who-has-cheatproof-test-dethrone-sats

  37. Are readers supposed to know what “J school” is without googling?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I did a double-take when I saw Podheretz calling for the destruction of Jewish schools.
  38. iSteve alert!

    Washington, D.C. “saw the most African American residents — more than 20,000 — displaced from their neighborhoods, mostly by affluent, white newcomers” of any city in the country between 2000 and 2013

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2019/03/19/study-dc-has-had-highest-intensity-gentrification-any-us-city/

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Next class reunion, I'll have to tease the gray guy who lives in DC he's an ethnic cleanser.
  39. The state of America in Lavins

    1970s America: Linda Lavin

    2010s America: Talia Lavin

    • Replies: @dr kill
    Poor fucker, couldn't even stick it out long enough to get his green card.
  40. @Anon
    OT: New Zealand has just banned Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Living, although it's still legal to sell Mein Kampf, apparently. I wasn't aware Peterson's hippy dippy book was teaching people to shoot up mosques.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/shocking-new-zealand-bookstore-bans-jordan-petersons-self-help-book-12-rules-for-life-following-mosque-attack/

    If Peterson's smart, he'll sue for discrimination and shakes down the Kiwis for a bit of cash.

    The bookseller Whitcoulls took it out of the inventory for inane reasons. The government hasn’t banned it.

  41. @Don't Look at Me
    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.

    Is Stonetoss still legal in New Zealand?

    Is Stonetoss still legal in New Zealand?

    Stonetoss is illegal in all nations other than Bhutan and Belarus.

  42. I’ve seen the complaint in other venues that reporters who have attended J-schools are no better prepared for their work than reporters who’ve studied English literature, but that may be the perspective of editors who expect their charges to turn in copy on time but are indifferent to whether the copy makes much sense.

    Nicholas Lemann when he was dean of the Columbia J-school had the idea that his charges would be writing about public policy and not imaginative literature, so would benefit from some training in tools like statistical analysis. That’s an idea. Then he turns around and hires for a senior administrative position Victor Navasky. Navasky over a career of 40+ years had owned and operated a humor magazine, been employed at the New York Times Book Review and been employed as editor of The Nation for 18 years. If you rank-ordered leftoid opinion magazines by quality, The Nation under Navasky was the bottom of the heap. He’s also written a series of bad books and has been an inveterate promoter of the idea that Alger Hiss was framed by federal law enforcement. He had zero experience as a reporter or news editor. No clue why you’d want this clown anywhere near your J-School, bar that the institutional culture of J-Schools is so silly that this would pass muster with Lemann’s peers.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Without dismissing his output entirely I noticed Navasky was "all in" and "double-down" invested in the field of HUAC/McCarthy/H'wood blacklist agony-aunting. The market value of which genre, took a dive somewhere around 92-93 when all the files from the Eastern bloc were finally being reprinted. Featured Unz.com author Ellen Schrecker's objectively silly mini-textbook about McCarthy and Hiss had the bad timing of publication in 1994 (which now I see got a revised edition in 2010, or a "soft reboot" maybe)
  43. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    She apparently learned her “standup” act from SNL, which hasn’t been funny for two decades…

  44. jpod shouldn’t say that, but he clearly wasn’t seriously wishing violence. This is a stretch.

    I have the reverse judgement on Matthew Yglesias genuinely supporting “terrorizing [Carlson’s] family”. That was after people groups really did target Tucker Carlson’s house and intimidate and threaten and spray paint Carlson’s family. Yglesias did delete his tweets, but largely because that was a strategically terrible thing to do that would damage his cause.

  45. Captain Cuck…still called a racist after all of that virtue signalling

  46. So is this JPod doesn’t think these two have the necessary experience, intelligence and moral character to teach at NYU(doubtful)? Or that he’s upset he didn’t get the job?

  47. @Clyde
    Commentary editor John Podhoretz pulled the plug on his Twitter account on Wednesday after he faced backlash for a tweet suggesting journalism schools “should be neutron bombed.”

    In a tweet that has now made the rounds on social media, Podhoretz wrote: “Talia Lavin and Lauren Duca teaching at NYU J school is the best argument yet that J schools should be neutron bombed and their buildings given to Rick Singer for no show side door people.”

    Lavin is the former New Yorker fact checker who resigned after she falsely claimed on social media that an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent had a Nazi tattoo. She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right.

    Lauren Duca is a former contributor to Teen Vogue who became an internet sensation after she went on Tucker Carlson’s show and called him a “partisan hack.” She is teaching a class this summer at NYU where tweeting is part of the students’ grades.

    Lavin suggested Podhoretz’s Twitter account was axed for a bomb threat. (It wasn’t, a Twitter spokesperson confirmed. Podhoretz deactivated the account on his own.)

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/john-podhoretz-pulls-the-plug-on-his-twitter-after-his-remark-journalism-schools-should-be-neutron-bombed-sparks-backlash/


    BTW---Lauren Duca is very nice and would thrive under an Islamic master https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Lauren+Duca&FORM=HDRSC2

    Clyde, I remember when Teen Vogue published an article on safe anal sex.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Talia peaked in 2010 while at Harvard U.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/talia-lavin/why-i-never-reported-my-sexual-assault_b_6199826.html
  48. I was wondering why JPod would have a problem with anyone attacking the Far Right, and is not instead all for what she is doing. On reading farther I see that it is because her definition of Far Right is not just Trumpers or White Nationalists, but extends to anyone who is a Republican or has ever operated a firearm, and therefore, JPod himself.

  49. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    The spicy, assured internet personae never match the reality, do they?

  50. @Lurker
    A friend has pointed out that the Current Year use of the word "standup" - omitting "comedy" and "comedian" is telling. Though entirely accurate in this case.

    Wasn’t it auto-cultist Ayn Rand who said that in Soviet Russia, no-one is laughing?

  51. @Anon
    OT: New Zealand has just banned Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Living, although it's still legal to sell Mein Kampf, apparently. I wasn't aware Peterson's hippy dippy book was teaching people to shoot up mosques.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/shocking-new-zealand-bookstore-bans-jordan-petersons-self-help-book-12-rules-for-life-following-mosque-attack/

    If Peterson's smart, he'll sue for discrimination and shakes down the Kiwis for a bit of cash.

    A bookstore chain there has pulled his books. He has not been banned by the government. Quite a difference.

  52. As for leftwing blunders (misinterpretation of signs and symbols), Lavin has a French counterpart:

    Sylvain Boulouque, an “historian” and “expert about social movements”, when asked about the “yellow vest” demonstrations, detected a flag which represented the “extreme right monarchists”, but in fact was simply the flag of the province of Picardy.
    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvain_Boulouque

  53. Lauren Duca had a pretty infamous interview with Tucker Carlson:

    • Replies: @captflee
    Thanks, 259!

    San Fran born he may have been, but I understand that in his veins flows the blood of more than one of the First Families of Virginia, also to include a famous officer of the Virginia militia whose late arrival in Virginia was more than atoned for by wounds twice sustained while running Lord Cornwallis to ground, and whose gradual emancipation plan, had it been followed, might just have had us all living in a far better country. Perhaps it is, as that greatest of Virginians said regarding the bravery of our first president's grandnephew, then held hostage by the Charlie Manson of the 1850s, that, "The old Revolutionary blood does tell."

    Would that some of the descendants of those who did not make the trek westward would honor their ancestors and find the courage to defend the Commonwealth against the pernicious effects of immivasion, whether foreign or domestic.

  54. Over/Under on the day he comes back: March 31st. Twitter is a drug to fuel his anger and narcissism. There is no way he permanently stays away.

  55. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:

    SAC is, despite having one of the cooler comic-booky logos out of the Pentagon’s various imprints and sub-brands, defunct since at least the reshuffling of branches in ’92 — though I think it may have been one of the unkillable agencies that only resurfaced under the Obama generals (now retitled USAF Global Strike etc. etc.)

  56. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    Does she support unilateral disarmament of Israel’s unregulated nuclear weapons ?

    Of course not.

  57. I just wanted to take this moment to tip my hat to you, Steve. You always took the high road, despite JPod’s gratuitous, low-road provocations. It’s nice to see him hoisted with his own petard at long last.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  58. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Technically this is a terroristic threat by Podhoretz. He may have been banned.

    Cuomo has called for an, ” investigation. “

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    Give me a break. It's a million miles from a threat since not even the PNACers could make that happen.
  59. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    I've seen the complaint in other venues that reporters who have attended J-schools are no better prepared for their work than reporters who've studied English literature, but that may be the perspective of editors who expect their charges to turn in copy on time but are indifferent to whether the copy makes much sense.

    Nicholas Lemann when he was dean of the Columbia J-school had the idea that his charges would be writing about public policy and not imaginative literature, so would benefit from some training in tools like statistical analysis. That's an idea. Then he turns around and hires for a senior administrative position Victor Navasky. Navasky over a career of 40+ years had owned and operated a humor magazine, been employed at the New York Times Book Review and been employed as editor of The Nation for 18 years. If you rank-ordered leftoid opinion magazines by quality, The Nation under Navasky was the bottom of the heap. He's also written a series of bad books and has been an inveterate promoter of the idea that Alger Hiss was framed by federal law enforcement. He had zero experience as a reporter or news editor. No clue why you'd want this clown anywhere near your J-School, bar that the institutional culture of J-Schools is so silly that this would pass muster with Lemann's peers.

    Without dismissing his output entirely I noticed Navasky was “all in” and “double-down” invested in the field of HUAC/McCarthy/H’wood blacklist agony-aunting. The market value of which genre, took a dive somewhere around 92-93 when all the files from the Eastern bloc were finally being reprinted. Featured Unz.com author Ellen Schrecker’s objectively silly mini-textbook about McCarthy and Hiss had the bad timing of publication in 1994 (which now I see got a revised edition in 2010, or a “soft reboot” maybe)

  60. @Anon
    OT: New Zealand has just banned Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Living, although it's still legal to sell Mein Kampf, apparently. I wasn't aware Peterson's hippy dippy book was teaching people to shoot up mosques.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/shocking-new-zealand-bookstore-bans-jordan-petersons-self-help-book-12-rules-for-life-following-mosque-attack/

    If Peterson's smart, he'll sue for discrimination and shakes down the Kiwis for a bit of cash.

    I know that New Zealand is a small country but I don’t think it all fits in 1 bookstore. “New Zealand bookstore” and “New Zealand” are not the same thing. Apparently a single NZ Bookstore (chain?) has decided to stop selling that book. That’s their private decision and has nothing to do with the NZ gov. nor can you sue a merchant for deciding to stock or not stock a particular book.

    I see this kind of conclusion jumping and exaggeration all the time now on the right and the left. Quit it.

  61. @Lurker

    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.
     
    Which is why people entertain the idea that it was a set-up of some kind. Soo convenient.

    If the shooter was a woke as his manifesto implies then he would understand this perfectly. Ergo he's not what he seems.

    I've seen the video (making me a criminal if I were in NZ) and it's filmed with a potato. There are a number of puzzling aspects to what it depicts. As a bonus, all the MSM stories of Muslim bravery are conveniently alleged to have happened after the video ends.

    Which is why people entertain the idea that it was a set-up of some kind. Soo convenient.

    “False flag” is always the excuse of apologists for a cause. Terrorist attacks are rarely if ever false flag operations, not Muslim ones and not WN ones. “Who benefits” is not an accurate test – people often do stuff that is self-defeating to themselves and their movements.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    This. The False Flaggery is tiresome. It also raises metaquestions and soon you are a protagonist in Foucaults Pendulum.
    , @J.Ross
    Always? Are you sure one wasn't the plan of some Israelis to nudge the United States into an alliance? And another, Johnson's plan to expand the Vietnam debacle?
    Most of the Nazi invasions were alibi'ed with false flags, but it isn't well remembered now because nobody at the time was fooled. Hitler had pockets of sympathetic people in most of the countries he invaded and he used them to try to confect facts on the ground.
    , @Svigor
    That, or "No True Scotsman." I.e., Einstein was a real Jew despite having been irreligious, while Stalin's Jews weren't, because irreligious.
  62. People have been trying and failing to make comic exaggerations of the left for some time.

  63. @Buffalo Joe
    Clyde, I remember when Teen Vogue published an article on safe anal sex.
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "And all the while, other stories of rape and sexual assault have come to light — including Sabrina Rubin Eardley’s searing account of unprosecuted gang rapes on UVA’s campus."

    "And in the same breath, commenters comfortably couched in digital anonymity engage in conspiracy theories: They are lying..."

    In that particular case, the conspiracy theorists were right. Many such cases !
  64. @The Alarmist

    "I doubt that the Strategic Air Command will neutron bomb NYU."
     
    NYU would be worthy of a thermonuclear weapon, for maximum damage.

    NYU would be worthy of a thermonuclear weapon, for maximum damage.

    From orbit, it’s the only way to be sure. Science fiction movies has been feminized as in Avatar. Interstellar? My favorite era was from Alien (1979) to Terminator Two 1991 including Total Recall 1990.

  65. @Don't Look at Me
    Never let a good massacre go to waste. While everyone is in an emotional state, the government can get away with banning quite a bit.

    Is Stonetoss still legal in New Zealand?

    The other day I was listening to a discussion on gun control on NPR in my car – the very pro debater (that was the debate – between someone pro gun control and someone VERY pro gun control – this is the acceptable range of opinion on NPR) was bemoaning the fact that in other countries a single massacre is enough to get guns banned (and she listed all the countries where that had happened) but much to her chagrin (that pesky Constitution again) this never seems to work in the US.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    They do that thing where they'll have four Jews talking about stuff, too.
  66. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    ‘I’m Jewish and a woman’

    Saved you four and a half minutes

  67. @wren
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/03/old-leftists-never-fade-away.php


    OLD LEFTISTS NEVER FADE AWAY….

    We wrote last June about New Yorker fact-checker Talia Lavin, who falsely accused a disabled veteran of being a “Nazi” because she misinterpreted his military tattoo. It made quite a stir at the time, and the New Yorker fired Lavin. Her libel of the amputee veteran wasn’t a one-off; she hates Republicans, or suspected Republicans, in general:

    The truth of the matter is that anyone who willingly declares themselves [sic] a Republican is aligning themselves [sic] with an administration whose official policy is to torment minorities, to empty the public purse both for private gain and for sheer cruel parsimony, to strip away healthcare from the afflicted and to comfort the wealthy.
    ***
    Anyone who is a current Trumpist might as well be an ICE agent ripping an 18-month-old child from its mother’s arms, or shipping a five-year-old boy to Michigan to dream of his father and weep in a stranger’s house.
    ***
    One companion to the legion of Trump-voter-as-curious-oddity portraiture is the endless stream of op-eds prevailing upon liberals to be more tolerant. To cease being smug. To simply reach across the aisle, grasp a hand, and speak softly, leaving the big stick at home.

    To which I say: tough nuts, sugar. When they go low, stomp them on the head.
     
    Surprisingly, Lavin’s ignorant and baseless libel of a disabled veteran didn’t end her career. On the contrary: she was immediately snapped up by Democratic Party propaganda outlet Media Matters to report on “far right extremism.” There is, many would say, an irony there.

    Not long thereafter, she embarked on an academic career. New York University hired her as a professor of journalism. Because insanely libeling people who might possibly be conservatives is just what NYU thinks journalists should do.

    New York University has hired Talia Lavin as an adjunct journalism professor less than a year after the former New Yorker fact checker resigned after falsely accusing an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent of having a Nazi tattoo.
     
    What will Professor Lavin be teaching to NYU students who pay way too much for the privilege? You guessed it:

    Lavin’s undergraduate course “Reporting on the Far Right” will kick off in the fall semester of 2019 at NYU’s Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute. In its official faculty bio, the university billed Lavin as an expert in “far-right extremism and social justice.”
     
    A neutral observer might say that Lavin, having accused a veteran of being a Nazi because he had a U.S. military tattoo, is an expert on far-left extremism. Needless to say, NYU doesn’t have any such course.

    While NYU’s administrators and faculty are probably beyond hope, a few students, albeit liberals, retain a measure of common sense:

    At least one current NYU journalism student questioned the decision to hire Lavin. “I sympathize with Lavin’s politics, but I don’t know why someone who had to quit their journalism job for falsely implying someone is a Nazi should be teaching at NYU,” said the student, who requested anonymity for fear of academic reprisal. “I know there are plenty of reporters out there in need of work who haven’t made a mistake like that.”
     
    “For fear of academic reprisal.” NYU, RIP.

    Moderation is a Boomer thing. Say goodbye to that. A while ago I was listening to NPR in my car (that’s the only time I listen and what I usually listen to since Phila. no longer has a full time classical station) and the NPR reporter was speaking with a NY Times female columnist (I forget which one) and the columnist was foaming at the mouth with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the Lavin mode. The NPR reporter tried to get her to dial it back a little and asked her whether she shouldn’t try to be more objective as a journalist [i.e. hide her personal sympathies a little better] – this is NPR, not MSNBC but she refused to back away and doubled down further. It goes back to the old Barry Goldwater line:

    Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice.

    Except that each side has its own definition of “freedom”.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The NPR reporter tried to get her to dial it back a little and asked her whether she shouldn’t try to be more objective as a journalist [i.e. hide her personal sympathies a little better] – this is NPR, not MSNBC but she refused to back away and doubled down further.
     
    This is why twitter was such a blessing - in their "official" duties there's often at least a pretense to objectivity and an effort to hide their biases and hatreds, but the same "reporter" will take to twitter and unleash his or her Id for all the world to see.
    , @res

    Moderation is a Boomer thing. Say goodbye to that.
     
    Interesting. I think comparing between subsequent generations the Silent-Boomer transition may have been the largest decline in moderation we have seen. But at this point given that we keep sliding down that slope your statement has some truth (though I also think Boomer moderation now is more a matter of aging out of radicalism). Hopefully at some point the pendulum will swing.
    , @AnotherDad

    Except that each side has its own definition of “freedom”.
     
    People with different cultures belong in different nations. That's the gist of it.

    America absorbed a lot of people back-in-the-day with the assumption they would--over time--be able to adhere to the Anglo American nation. That's over--deconstructed.

    It's clear now, we are not people of one nation. We don't even seem to be people of the same universe! Personally i would even call the mental milieu Talia Lavin operates in a "culture". But whatever the hell it is, it isn't mine and it's not the fairly sane and reasonable American culture i grew up in. There's really no point in even pretending to have something called "politics" between us. We're not in the same "polis".

    Majority or minority there are a *lot* of people in America, who still think like me and value being part of the old America that was part of the Western Civ. We have the right to carry on with that. It says so in the Declaration, and i can feel it in my soul.
    , @wren
    I still listen to NPR in the car too, but I think I am developing NPR (along with MSM) derangement syndrome. It causes me to shout at my radio and foam at the mouth.

    Their lies and omissions are pretty blatant sometimes, all wrapped in that condescending NPR tone for folks who want to feel superior to people like me.
  68. I’d rather see The Pointer Sisters doing the Neutron Dance than Poddy.

    Mr. John Podhoretz, after a long winter in the Northeast, is not in any shape to try to replicate the dance moves of The Pointer Sisters. All those greasy delivered cheeseburgers have most likely found themselves congealed into rolls around Mr. Podhoretz’s gut. Most of us have a few pounds of winter weight to shed, it doesn’t make one a bad person.

    It would be reprllent to watch Poddy pivot and swirl and shake his belly like the fine dancers in The Pointer Sisters when they do their Neutron Dance.

    I’m watching the video for The Pointer Sisters to do research for this comment, and I notice the entertaining and lively Pointer Sisters are waiving around light wands such as those used by movie ushers and runway guides. I immediately thought of what a runway guide would signal, using his light wand, to a big fat Boeing 737 Max airplane about to take flight? Would the airport runway guide signal up and away into the wild blue yonder and then forcefully swing the light wands towards the ground like Tennstedt finishing up a Wagner?

  69. For as concise and lucid accounting of the social media madness as one is likely to run across, may I suggest:

    https://twitter.com/MartinezGustav0/status/1108591579554557953/video/1

    I believe Mr. Martinez wins the internetz for this.

  70. @Jack D
    Moderation is a Boomer thing. Say goodbye to that. A while ago I was listening to NPR in my car (that's the only time I listen and what I usually listen to since Phila. no longer has a full time classical station) and the NPR reporter was speaking with a NY Times female columnist (I forget which one) and the columnist was foaming at the mouth with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the Lavin mode. The NPR reporter tried to get her to dial it back a little and asked her whether she shouldn't try to be more objective as a journalist [i.e. hide her personal sympathies a little better] - this is NPR, not MSNBC but she refused to back away and doubled down further. It goes back to the old Barry Goldwater line:

    Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice.
     

    Except that each side has its own definition of "freedom".

    The NPR reporter tried to get her to dial it back a little and asked her whether she shouldn’t try to be more objective as a journalist [i.e. hide her personal sympathies a little better] – this is NPR, not MSNBC but she refused to back away and doubled down further.

    This is why twitter was such a blessing – in their “official” duties there’s often at least a pretense to objectivity and an effort to hide their biases and hatreds, but the same “reporter” will take to twitter and unleash his or her Id for all the world to see.

  71. @wren
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/03/old-leftists-never-fade-away.php


    OLD LEFTISTS NEVER FADE AWAY….

    We wrote last June about New Yorker fact-checker Talia Lavin, who falsely accused a disabled veteran of being a “Nazi” because she misinterpreted his military tattoo. It made quite a stir at the time, and the New Yorker fired Lavin. Her libel of the amputee veteran wasn’t a one-off; she hates Republicans, or suspected Republicans, in general:

    The truth of the matter is that anyone who willingly declares themselves [sic] a Republican is aligning themselves [sic] with an administration whose official policy is to torment minorities, to empty the public purse both for private gain and for sheer cruel parsimony, to strip away healthcare from the afflicted and to comfort the wealthy.
    ***
    Anyone who is a current Trumpist might as well be an ICE agent ripping an 18-month-old child from its mother’s arms, or shipping a five-year-old boy to Michigan to dream of his father and weep in a stranger’s house.
    ***
    One companion to the legion of Trump-voter-as-curious-oddity portraiture is the endless stream of op-eds prevailing upon liberals to be more tolerant. To cease being smug. To simply reach across the aisle, grasp a hand, and speak softly, leaving the big stick at home.

    To which I say: tough nuts, sugar. When they go low, stomp them on the head.
     
    Surprisingly, Lavin’s ignorant and baseless libel of a disabled veteran didn’t end her career. On the contrary: she was immediately snapped up by Democratic Party propaganda outlet Media Matters to report on “far right extremism.” There is, many would say, an irony there.

    Not long thereafter, she embarked on an academic career. New York University hired her as a professor of journalism. Because insanely libeling people who might possibly be conservatives is just what NYU thinks journalists should do.

    New York University has hired Talia Lavin as an adjunct journalism professor less than a year after the former New Yorker fact checker resigned after falsely accusing an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent of having a Nazi tattoo.
     
    What will Professor Lavin be teaching to NYU students who pay way too much for the privilege? You guessed it:

    Lavin’s undergraduate course “Reporting on the Far Right” will kick off in the fall semester of 2019 at NYU’s Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute. In its official faculty bio, the university billed Lavin as an expert in “far-right extremism and social justice.”
     
    A neutral observer might say that Lavin, having accused a veteran of being a Nazi because he had a U.S. military tattoo, is an expert on far-left extremism. Needless to say, NYU doesn’t have any such course.

    While NYU’s administrators and faculty are probably beyond hope, a few students, albeit liberals, retain a measure of common sense:

    At least one current NYU journalism student questioned the decision to hire Lavin. “I sympathize with Lavin’s politics, but I don’t know why someone who had to quit their journalism job for falsely implying someone is a Nazi should be teaching at NYU,” said the student, who requested anonymity for fear of academic reprisal. “I know there are plenty of reporters out there in need of work who haven’t made a mistake like that.”
     
    “For fear of academic reprisal.” NYU, RIP.

    I have no problem with this Talia Lavin creature.

    We just don’t belong in the same nation. She can live in her ICE-less, borderless, feminist utopia for as long as it lasts and i can live in a normal Western nation–America.

    All the world does not have to be sane and beautiful. There should be a place for crazy, slimy ugly creatures as well.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?
    , @DFH

    We just don’t belong in the same nation. She can live in her ICE-less, borderless, feminist utopia for as long as it lasts and i can live in a normal Western nation–America.

     

    Her nation actually has quite a strict border and immigration deportation force. They've even got a wall!
    , @captflee
    Now, Dad...to those of her ilk, I'm sure she's just fine. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, no?

    A peaceful separation would indeed be optimal, but you know that's not a given. A plurality of our inhabitants are constitutionally, probably genetically, incapable of not sticking their oversized proboscides into everyone else's affairs, given that they have since time out of mind been charged by their various deities, whether temporal or supernatural, with keeping we lesser beings in line and under their thumb. It's been that way since what is popularly supposed to be the beginning of our settlement, and the imports since then have scarcely been, on the average, more likely to be capable of minding their own f'ing bidness.

    A rather prescient fellow across the pond once made a prophetic speech touching at least partly on our quandary, the first of which follows:

    "The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.

    One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future.

    Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles: "If only," they love to think, "if only people wouldn't talk about it, it probably wouldn't happen."

    Perhaps this habit goes back to the primitive belief that the word and the thing, the name and the object, are identical.

    At all events, the discussion of future grave but, with effort now, avoidable evils is the most unpopular and at the same time the most necessary occupation for the politician. Those who knowingly shirk it deserve, and not infrequently receive, the curses of those who come after. "


    4GW, hell, maybe 5GW will be the rule, though there will probably be all sorts of anachronisms-sieges of cities, in which we may later hear of the SJW community finally making a positive contribution, if only as food and fertilizer, that sort of thing. Probably going to be pretty messy, though.
  72. @AnotherDad
    I have no problem with this Talia Lavin creature.

    We just don't belong in the same nation. She can live in her ICE-less, borderless, feminist utopia for as long as it lasts and i can live in a normal Western nation--America.

    All the world does not have to be sane and beautiful. There should be a place for crazy, slimy ugly creatures as well.

    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Partition is a good word for what is coming.

    Let's start politically with first past the post two-party partitionism. The English winner takes all, first past the post electoral system produces a two-party system. I think it was John O'Sullivan who suggested that the GOP could have 5 or so partitioned political parties within the GOP.

    My fast description of 5 parties within GOP:

    1) Sam Francis Founding Father political party that explicitly recognizes the United States as a British Protestant or European Christian nation and features Buchananite economic patriotism. White Core American Patriots would take over the electronic currency(money) and the electronic propaganda and the electronic command and control of the various weapons systems of the US military and the US signals intelligence apparatus. America First in all matters, especially foreign policy.

    2) George W Bush GOP of rich WASP turds who only have money-grubbing and national dissolution on their minds. Israel First foreign policy.

    3) John Kasich GOP globalizer and mass legal immigration and monetary extremism and upper middle class greed covered up by fake concern for lower middle class and working class. Israel First foreign policy.

    4) John McCain and Mitt Romney GOP of American Empire and mass legal immigration and trade deal scams and nostalgia for 50 years ago. Israel First foreign policy.

    5) Trump GOP of slavish devotion to Jew donors such as Adelson and Singer and mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens and keeping the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate pumped up by monetary extremism. Israel First foreign policy.
    , @AnotherDad

    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?
     
    Short Answer: You got a better idea?

    Longer Answer:

    1) The "nation of immigrants" (immigration forever) or worse "open borders" program is essentially a death sentence. It means the US ends up getting shittier and shittier until it's so crowded and mediocre that no one else wants to come ... and immigration can finally, blissfully cease. That--immigrationism--*alone* is a bigger fault line than we had in the 1850s when the quarrel over slavery was mostly between at least between related Anglo origin groups, and with high-quality, good-faith leadership (which unfortunately we didn't have) could have been tractable. And beyond that we have the sheer nuttiness of the left that you see in say the gay-marriage hysteria (round up the Christian cake bakers!) or "transgender" nonsense.

    In sum, the left has an end-to-end "dead man walking" agenda, which is hostile to men being men, women being women and together having replacement fertility and instead pushes population replacement. Basically it is genocidal towards white Americans.

    Given that, if we don't win, what's the alternative but to try and leave?

    2) As i've said many times before, the most important thing about saying "separation" is its propaganda value.

    The plain fact is the Democrats coalition-of-the-fringes is parasitic on the white American nation. Even its most prosperous metros--NY and Washington--are prosperous precisely because they extract through finance and through taxation from a large prosperous white (or formerly white) nation. (Bay Area admittedly a bit different.) It's precisely the fact that generations of white guys--my ancestors--have built up such a rich prosperous nation, that these parastic fringes can exist.

    (This is, if anything, even more obvious when it comes to immigration. Why are immigrants here? Because white guys built a better nation than their ancestors did back home ... and they want a piece of it.)

    White people standing up for themselves and saying "Fine, you have your multicultural, open-borders utopia. We'll pass." is useful because it unmasks the actual "Who whom". Despite all the whining about oppressive white men, the reality is the reverse. The fringes can't stand the thought of white people having their own nations, taking care of their own business, working for themselves rather than providing loot. White people are their serfs. Proposing separation unmasks this.
    , @J.Ross
    >our side is the one fomenting civil war
    Our side isn't the one attacking the Bill of Rights, criminalizing normal behavior, physically attacking people and getting away with it, talking about assassinating the President, legalizing crime, and importing an alien army.
    Lavin's not going to be in Missouri or Tennessee, she'll be as safe as she is now.
    , @anon
    Suspect the US will undergo a relatively peaceful, quiet dissolution into semi-autonomous zones, ala Northern Ireland vs Ireland, perhaps with limitations on foreign treaties. Ironically, I don't think it will be Middle-American Whites to call for this first. It will be a coalition of minorities / liberals, who cannot overcome the electoral college because of their geographic concentration and who cannot control high government because they will increasingly lack the IQ to organize.

    Flashpoint will likely be the Supreme Court along with the Electoral College, as we are seeing now. With growing secularism, childlessness, austerity from Boomer debt, and ethnic balkanization, it is inevitable that calls for overhaul will only increase. After a few election cycles of liberals winning popular votes by large margins but not winning control of government, the wheel will be set in motion.

    By 2040, your average White will feel as much allegiance to California or Arizona, as they currently do with Puerto Rico.
    , @ben tillman

    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time.
     
    And why would I care? Fighting for survival beats the hell out of accepting certain death.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?
     
    Do they have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation with us? I mean, short of us just bending the knee to them and assenting to every stupid, cockamamie, destructive idea they believe in? Because I don't see it. I don't welcome social breakdown, and I hope it doesn't come to that - I am, as the movie cliche goes - too old for that s**t. But if the left keeps pushing at the structure and undermining the foundation of society, it will eventually collapse.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    … do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?
     
    “Lavin and her kind” don’t have any inclination to live peacefully, so your question is pointless.
    , @Svigor
    Well, America was founded on a violent, illegal revolution - just a bit of context there.

    Maybe we could do it more nicely, next time. Say, the way Israel was founded? HMU on your moral and ethical assessment of that, and we can proceed from there.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time."
     
    On the other hand, it went pretty well the time before that (1776).

    But also, the origins of the Civil War are no longer well understood. It has been buried by a century and a half of Abolitionist agitprop.

    One side in the Civil War had been importing and breeding incompatible third-worlders hand over fist. The other side may or may not have disapproved of this morally, but certainly did not wish to compete with or become subject to this "Slave Power". With the western half of the continent still unsettled and unincorporated, and the Slave Power threatening to bring slave-owning Caribbean and Latin America into the Union, the free states were justifiably anxious about letting the slave states carry on their slave enterprise.

    Now maybe the free states should have just let the slave states go about building their slave empire and importing and breeding a bigger servant underclass. And maybe in time that project would just have gone the way of Brazil ... or Haiti. Maybe. But for better or worse, they decided to preserve the Union.

    The Civil War successfully contained the Slave Power and its inherent Negro problem in the reincorporated Southeast. It halted the expansion of the slave-fueled plantation state. Which is to say, AnotherDad's side won after all, albeit at high cost. But they preserved their nation and people.

    The race problem stayed contained and managed in the Southeast for most of a century until the welfare state, fake "civil rights", and Hart-Cellar subsidized and expanded the Negro problem, imported a new third world serf class, and set about building a new serf-fueled plantation state.

    The new Civil War will now be re-fought for essentially the same reason as the last one: regular Americans don't want to compete with—or worse, to be—serfs and slaves. Except this time the battle lines will be urban and personal, and the rules will be irregular and undeclared. In fact, they already are. It's still relatively cool now, but the coastal oligarchs miss no opportunity to raise the temperature, so it is getting warmer all the time.

    tl;dr: Actually went reasonably well last time. No guarantees this time.

  73. @AnotherDad
    I have no problem with this Talia Lavin creature.

    We just don't belong in the same nation. She can live in her ICE-less, borderless, feminist utopia for as long as it lasts and i can live in a normal Western nation--America.

    All the world does not have to be sane and beautiful. There should be a place for crazy, slimy ugly creatures as well.

    We just don’t belong in the same nation. She can live in her ICE-less, borderless, feminist utopia for as long as it lasts and i can live in a normal Western nation–America.

    Her nation actually has quite a strict border and immigration deportation force. They’ve even got a wall!

  74. @Jack D
    Moderation is a Boomer thing. Say goodbye to that. A while ago I was listening to NPR in my car (that's the only time I listen and what I usually listen to since Phila. no longer has a full time classical station) and the NPR reporter was speaking with a NY Times female columnist (I forget which one) and the columnist was foaming at the mouth with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the Lavin mode. The NPR reporter tried to get her to dial it back a little and asked her whether she shouldn't try to be more objective as a journalist [i.e. hide her personal sympathies a little better] - this is NPR, not MSNBC but she refused to back away and doubled down further. It goes back to the old Barry Goldwater line:

    Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice.
     

    Except that each side has its own definition of "freedom".

    Moderation is a Boomer thing. Say goodbye to that.

    Interesting. I think comparing between subsequent generations the Silent-Boomer transition may have been the largest decline in moderation we have seen. But at this point given that we keep sliding down that slope your statement has some truth (though I also think Boomer moderation now is more a matter of aging out of radicalism). Hopefully at some point the pendulum will swing.

  75. @Jack D
    Moderation is a Boomer thing. Say goodbye to that. A while ago I was listening to NPR in my car (that's the only time I listen and what I usually listen to since Phila. no longer has a full time classical station) and the NPR reporter was speaking with a NY Times female columnist (I forget which one) and the columnist was foaming at the mouth with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the Lavin mode. The NPR reporter tried to get her to dial it back a little and asked her whether she shouldn't try to be more objective as a journalist [i.e. hide her personal sympathies a little better] - this is NPR, not MSNBC but she refused to back away and doubled down further. It goes back to the old Barry Goldwater line:

    Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice.
     

    Except that each side has its own definition of "freedom".

    Except that each side has its own definition of “freedom”.

    People with different cultures belong in different nations. That’s the gist of it.

    America absorbed a lot of people back-in-the-day with the assumption they would–over time–be able to adhere to the Anglo American nation. That’s over–deconstructed.

    It’s clear now, we are not people of one nation. We don’t even seem to be people of the same universe! Personally i would even call the mental milieu Talia Lavin operates in a “culture”. But whatever the hell it is, it isn’t mine and it’s not the fairly sane and reasonable American culture i grew up in. There’s really no point in even pretending to have something called “politics” between us. We’re not in the same “polis”.

    Majority or minority there are a *lot* of people in America, who still think like me and value being part of the old America that was part of the Western Civ. We have the right to carry on with that. It says so in the Declaration, and i can feel it in my soul.

  76. Anon[165] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: CNN just released a poll in which Harris got 12%, and Sanders got 20%. When CNN did the same poll on March 9th, Harris was at 7% and Sanders at 25%. It’s like CNN, in their desperation to push Harris, yanked 5% away from Sanders and gave it to Harris. I really doubt Sanders lost 5% of his support in a week and a half. That second poll has fake numbers. The Dem party elite really, really, don’t want Sanders to become the front runner. They’re still mad at him for challenging Hillary. Anyway, dopy Biden is at 28%, so Harris is still running way behind. It’s hard to tell if goofy Warren is actually losing support, or if CNN has decided that if Harris doesn’t get it, they’d like it to go to O’Rourke. It appears CNN has decided that if Harris or Warren can’t get it, they’d prefer O’Rourke as an alternative.

    March 9th poll: Biden 27, Sanders 25, Harris 7, Warren 9, O’Rourke 5, Booker 3, Klobuchar 3.
    March 31 poll: Biden 28, Sanders 20, Harris 12, O’Rourke 11, Warren 6, Booker 3, Klobuchar 3.

  77. @Jack D

    Which is why people entertain the idea that it was a set-up of some kind. Soo convenient.
     
    "False flag" is always the excuse of apologists for a cause. Terrorist attacks are rarely if ever false flag operations, not Muslim ones and not WN ones. "Who benefits" is not an accurate test - people often do stuff that is self-defeating to themselves and their movements.

    This. The False Flaggery is tiresome. It also raises metaquestions and soon you are a protagonist in Foucaults Pendulum.

  78. @Jack D
    Moderation is a Boomer thing. Say goodbye to that. A while ago I was listening to NPR in my car (that's the only time I listen and what I usually listen to since Phila. no longer has a full time classical station) and the NPR reporter was speaking with a NY Times female columnist (I forget which one) and the columnist was foaming at the mouth with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the Lavin mode. The NPR reporter tried to get her to dial it back a little and asked her whether she shouldn't try to be more objective as a journalist [i.e. hide her personal sympathies a little better] - this is NPR, not MSNBC but she refused to back away and doubled down further. It goes back to the old Barry Goldwater line:

    Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice.
     

    Except that each side has its own definition of "freedom".

    I still listen to NPR in the car too, but I think I am developing NPR (along with MSM) derangement syndrome. It causes me to shout at my radio and foam at the mouth.

    Their lies and omissions are pretty blatant sometimes, all wrapped in that condescending NPR tone for folks who want to feel superior to people like me.

  79. @AnotherDad
    I have no problem with this Talia Lavin creature.

    We just don't belong in the same nation. She can live in her ICE-less, borderless, feminist utopia for as long as it lasts and i can live in a normal Western nation--America.

    All the world does not have to be sane and beautiful. There should be a place for crazy, slimy ugly creatures as well.

    Now, Dad…to those of her ilk, I’m sure she’s just fine. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, no?

    A peaceful separation would indeed be optimal, but you know that’s not a given. A plurality of our inhabitants are constitutionally, probably genetically, incapable of not sticking their oversized proboscides into everyone else’s affairs, given that they have since time out of mind been charged by their various deities, whether temporal or supernatural, with keeping we lesser beings in line and under their thumb. It’s been that way since what is popularly supposed to be the beginning of our settlement, and the imports since then have scarcely been, on the average, more likely to be capable of minding their own f’ing bidness.

    A rather prescient fellow across the pond once made a prophetic speech touching at least partly on our quandary, the first of which follows:

    “The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.

    One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future.

    Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles: “If only,” they love to think, “if only people wouldn’t talk about it, it probably wouldn’t happen.”

    Perhaps this habit goes back to the primitive belief that the word and the thing, the name and the object, are identical.

    At all events, the discussion of future grave but, with effort now, avoidable evils is the most unpopular and at the same time the most necessary occupation for the politician. Those who knowingly shirk it deserve, and not infrequently receive, the curses of those who come after. ”

    4GW, hell, maybe 5GW will be the rule, though there will probably be all sorts of anachronisms-sieges of cities, in which we may later hear of the SJW community finally making a positive contribution, if only as food and fertilizer, that sort of thing. Probably going to be pretty messy, though.

  80. @Clyde
    Commentary editor John Podhoretz pulled the plug on his Twitter account on Wednesday after he faced backlash for a tweet suggesting journalism schools “should be neutron bombed.”

    In a tweet that has now made the rounds on social media, Podhoretz wrote: “Talia Lavin and Lauren Duca teaching at NYU J school is the best argument yet that J schools should be neutron bombed and their buildings given to Rick Singer for no show side door people.”

    Lavin is the former New Yorker fact checker who resigned after she falsely claimed on social media that an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent had a Nazi tattoo. She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right.

    Lauren Duca is a former contributor to Teen Vogue who became an internet sensation after she went on Tucker Carlson’s show and called him a “partisan hack.” She is teaching a class this summer at NYU where tweeting is part of the students’ grades.

    Lavin suggested Podhoretz’s Twitter account was axed for a bomb threat. (It wasn’t, a Twitter spokesperson confirmed. Podhoretz deactivated the account on his own.)

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/john-podhoretz-pulls-the-plug-on-his-twitter-after-his-remark-journalism-schools-should-be-neutron-bombed-sparks-backlash/


    BTW---Lauren Duca is very nice and would thrive under an Islamic master https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Lauren+Duca&FORM=HDRSC2

    “She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right.” Get the f**k out of here (with Elaine Benes shove ) , you made that shit up right ?

    • Replies: @Clyde

    “She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right.” Get the f**k out of here (with Elaine Benes shove ) , you made that shit up right ?
     
    I merely copy and pasted from the below mediaite URL So that's the truth as far as we know.
  81. @The Alarmist

    "I doubt that the Strategic Air Command will neutron bomb NYU."
     
    NYU would be worthy of a thermonuclear weapon, for maximum damage.
  82. @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    Partition is a good word for what is coming.

    Let’s start politically with first past the post two-party partitionism. The English winner takes all, first past the post electoral system produces a two-party system. I think it was John O’Sullivan who suggested that the GOP could have 5 or so partitioned political parties within the GOP.

    My fast description of 5 parties within GOP:

    1) Sam Francis Founding Father political party that explicitly recognizes the United States as a British Protestant or European Christian nation and features Buchananite economic patriotism. White Core American Patriots would take over the electronic currency(money) and the electronic propaganda and the electronic command and control of the various weapons systems of the US military and the US signals intelligence apparatus. America First in all matters, especially foreign policy.

    2) George W Bush GOP of rich WASP turds who only have money-grubbing and national dissolution on their minds. Israel First foreign policy.

    3) John Kasich GOP globalizer and mass legal immigration and monetary extremism and upper middle class greed covered up by fake concern for lower middle class and working class. Israel First foreign policy.

    4) John McCain and Mitt Romney GOP of American Empire and mass legal immigration and trade deal scams and nostalgia for 50 years ago. Israel First foreign policy.

    5) Trump GOP of slavish devotion to Jew donors such as Adelson and Singer and mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens and keeping the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate pumped up by monetary extremism. Israel First foreign policy.

  83. @wren
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/03/old-leftists-never-fade-away.php


    OLD LEFTISTS NEVER FADE AWAY….

    We wrote last June about New Yorker fact-checker Talia Lavin, who falsely accused a disabled veteran of being a “Nazi” because she misinterpreted his military tattoo. It made quite a stir at the time, and the New Yorker fired Lavin. Her libel of the amputee veteran wasn’t a one-off; she hates Republicans, or suspected Republicans, in general:

    The truth of the matter is that anyone who willingly declares themselves [sic] a Republican is aligning themselves [sic] with an administration whose official policy is to torment minorities, to empty the public purse both for private gain and for sheer cruel parsimony, to strip away healthcare from the afflicted and to comfort the wealthy.
    ***
    Anyone who is a current Trumpist might as well be an ICE agent ripping an 18-month-old child from its mother’s arms, or shipping a five-year-old boy to Michigan to dream of his father and weep in a stranger’s house.
    ***
    One companion to the legion of Trump-voter-as-curious-oddity portraiture is the endless stream of op-eds prevailing upon liberals to be more tolerant. To cease being smug. To simply reach across the aisle, grasp a hand, and speak softly, leaving the big stick at home.

    To which I say: tough nuts, sugar. When they go low, stomp them on the head.
     
    Surprisingly, Lavin’s ignorant and baseless libel of a disabled veteran didn’t end her career. On the contrary: she was immediately snapped up by Democratic Party propaganda outlet Media Matters to report on “far right extremism.” There is, many would say, an irony there.

    Not long thereafter, she embarked on an academic career. New York University hired her as a professor of journalism. Because insanely libeling people who might possibly be conservatives is just what NYU thinks journalists should do.

    New York University has hired Talia Lavin as an adjunct journalism professor less than a year after the former New Yorker fact checker resigned after falsely accusing an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent of having a Nazi tattoo.
     
    What will Professor Lavin be teaching to NYU students who pay way too much for the privilege? You guessed it:

    Lavin’s undergraduate course “Reporting on the Far Right” will kick off in the fall semester of 2019 at NYU’s Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute. In its official faculty bio, the university billed Lavin as an expert in “far-right extremism and social justice.”
     
    A neutral observer might say that Lavin, having accused a veteran of being a Nazi because he had a U.S. military tattoo, is an expert on far-left extremism. Needless to say, NYU doesn’t have any such course.

    While NYU’s administrators and faculty are probably beyond hope, a few students, albeit liberals, retain a measure of common sense:

    At least one current NYU journalism student questioned the decision to hire Lavin. “I sympathize with Lavin’s politics, but I don’t know why someone who had to quit their journalism job for falsely implying someone is a Nazi should be teaching at NYU,” said the student, who requested anonymity for fear of academic reprisal. “I know there are plenty of reporters out there in need of work who haven’t made a mistake like that.”
     
    “For fear of academic reprisal.” NYU, RIP.

    “Anyone who is a current Trumpist might as well be an ICE agent ripping an 18-month-old child from its mother’s arms” .

    Twas the night before Yuletide and all through the Reich …
    “The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While visions of dead brown babies danced in their heads”

  84. @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    Short Answer: You got a better idea?

    Longer Answer:

    1) The “nation of immigrants” (immigration forever) or worse “open borders” program is essentially a death sentence. It means the US ends up getting shittier and shittier until it’s so crowded and mediocre that no one else wants to come … and immigration can finally, blissfully cease. That–immigrationism–*alone* is a bigger fault line than we had in the 1850s when the quarrel over slavery was mostly between at least between related Anglo origin groups, and with high-quality, good-faith leadership (which unfortunately we didn’t have) could have been tractable. And beyond that we have the sheer nuttiness of the left that you see in say the gay-marriage hysteria (round up the Christian cake bakers!) or “transgender” nonsense.

    In sum, the left has an end-to-end “dead man walking” agenda, which is hostile to men being men, women being women and together having replacement fertility and instead pushes population replacement. Basically it is genocidal towards white Americans.

    Given that, if we don’t win, what’s the alternative but to try and leave?

    2) As i’ve said many times before, the most important thing about saying “separation” is its propaganda value.

    The plain fact is the Democrats coalition-of-the-fringes is parasitic on the white American nation. Even its most prosperous metros–NY and Washington–are prosperous precisely because they extract through finance and through taxation from a large prosperous white (or formerly white) nation. (Bay Area admittedly a bit different.) It’s precisely the fact that generations of white guys–my ancestors–have built up such a rich prosperous nation, that these parastic fringes can exist.

    (This is, if anything, even more obvious when it comes to immigration. Why are immigrants here? Because white guys built a better nation than their ancestors did back home … and they want a piece of it.)

    White people standing up for themselves and saying “Fine, you have your multicultural, open-borders utopia. We’ll pass.” is useful because it unmasks the actual “Who whom”. Despite all the whining about oppressive white men, the reality is the reverse. The fringes can’t stand the thought of white people having their own nations, taking care of their own business, working for themselves rather than providing loot. White people are their serfs. Proposing separation unmasks this.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Jack D
    So you are saying this is a rhetorical device in order to get the other side thinking and not a serious proposal? That sounds about right because if you really had something like that in mind, you would want to do it with utmost secrecy and not telegraph your intentions in advance.

    The problem is that the other side may take you at your word and act first "in self defense". The best thing is to strangle baby Hitler in the cradle.
  85. @Anon
    The New Yorker "fact checker," Talia Lavin, did quite a bit of writing at the magazine, 31 pieces:

    https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/talia-lavin

    This one is autobiographical, in the guise of a recipe for chicken soup:

    https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/leaving-a-religion-and-a-marriage-and-gaining-a-chicken-soup

    I left Orthodox Judaism when I left home, and I’ve never made a Jewish chicken soup since. When I return to my family’s table, it’s as a prodigal, wisecracking, chain-smoking daughter.

    At twenty-seven, I have not yet learned to cook for just myself. For seven years, when I cooked at all, I cooked for the man who became my husband when I was twenty-four. At our wedding, the food was good—I don’t remember what we ate, but I remember that we continued eating throughout the toasts.

    We were married for two years: enough time to acquire a KitchenAid mixer but not enough to acquire children, enough time to share a studio apartment but not enough to buy a house. When I moved out, I took the pitcher shaped like an elephant and most of the platters, but I left in such a hurry that half my books remained.

    Some months after the divorce, I invited more friends than could fit into my tiny living room for a dinner. I laid out a card table that jutted into the kitchen, arranging folding chairs whose backs knocked the walls and caught at the door’s handle. I made scalloped potatoes. I blanched asparagus.

    The friends I invited had seen me sob in broad daylight when my husband first left. They had fielded calls at unreasonable hours. In return, I made them avgolemono.
     
    This must be what got her the NYU job:

    https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-neo-nazis-of-the-daily-stormer-wander-the-digital-wilderness

    I’ve never made a Jewish chicken soup since

    wisecracking, chain-smoking

    The friends I invited had seen me sob in broad daylight when my husband first left.

    I guess its a mystery as to why her husband left. A fat, wisecracking, chain-smoking woman that can’t cook is what most guys dream about.

  86. @Clyde
    Talia peaked in 2010 while at Harvard U.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/talia-lavin/why-i-never-reported-my-sexual-assault_b_6199826.html

    “And all the while, other stories of rape and sexual assault have come to light — including Sabrina Rubin Eardley’s searing account of unprosecuted gang rapes on UVA’s campus.”

    “And in the same breath, commenters comfortably couched in digital anonymity engage in conspiracy theories: They are lying…”

    In that particular case, the conspiracy theorists were right. Many such cases !

  87. Oh come on, it’s not like an alt-right Russian incel used social media to advocate violence. There is only so much time that a reasonable man can wait for a Schnoppy’s delivery.

  88. @Gunner
    This dumb “woke” slacktivist is saying “midget” more than any racist, Southern grandpa I have ever seen.

    Norm MacDonald did it better.

  89. @Jack D

    Which is why people entertain the idea that it was a set-up of some kind. Soo convenient.
     
    "False flag" is always the excuse of apologists for a cause. Terrorist attacks are rarely if ever false flag operations, not Muslim ones and not WN ones. "Who benefits" is not an accurate test - people often do stuff that is self-defeating to themselves and their movements.

    Always? Are you sure one wasn’t the plan of some Israelis to nudge the United States into an alliance? And another, Johnson’s plan to expand the Vietnam debacle?
    Most of the Nazi invasions were alibi’ed with false flags, but it isn’t well remembered now because nobody at the time was fooled. Hitler had pockets of sympathetic people in most of the countries he invaded and he used them to try to confect facts on the ground.

  90. @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    >our side is the one fomenting civil war
    Our side isn’t the one attacking the Bill of Rights, criminalizing normal behavior, physically attacking people and getting away with it, talking about assassinating the President, legalizing crime, and importing an alien army.
    Lavin’s not going to be in Missouri or Tennessee, she’ll be as safe as she is now.

  91. STARRING BRAD PITT

  92. @Anon
    The New Yorker "fact checker," Talia Lavin, did quite a bit of writing at the magazine, 31 pieces:

    https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/talia-lavin

    This one is autobiographical, in the guise of a recipe for chicken soup:

    https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/leaving-a-religion-and-a-marriage-and-gaining-a-chicken-soup

    I left Orthodox Judaism when I left home, and I’ve never made a Jewish chicken soup since. When I return to my family’s table, it’s as a prodigal, wisecracking, chain-smoking daughter.

    At twenty-seven, I have not yet learned to cook for just myself. For seven years, when I cooked at all, I cooked for the man who became my husband when I was twenty-four. At our wedding, the food was good—I don’t remember what we ate, but I remember that we continued eating throughout the toasts.

    We were married for two years: enough time to acquire a KitchenAid mixer but not enough to acquire children, enough time to share a studio apartment but not enough to buy a house. When I moved out, I took the pitcher shaped like an elephant and most of the platters, but I left in such a hurry that half my books remained.

    Some months after the divorce, I invited more friends than could fit into my tiny living room for a dinner. I laid out a card table that jutted into the kitchen, arranging folding chairs whose backs knocked the walls and caught at the door’s handle. I made scalloped potatoes. I blanched asparagus.

    The friends I invited had seen me sob in broad daylight when my husband first left. They had fielded calls at unreasonable hours. In return, I made them avgolemono.
     
    This must be what got her the NYU job:

    https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-neo-nazis-of-the-daily-stormer-wander-the-digital-wilderness

    Wait, so who left whom? She actually might be a graduate-level journalist, because the confusion her article creates.

  93. @donut
    "She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right." Get the f**k out of here (with Elaine Benes shove ) , you made that shit up right ?

    “She will be teaching an undergraduate course called Reporting on the Far Right.” Get the f**k out of here (with Elaine Benes shove ) , you made that shit up right ?

    I merely copy and pasted from the below mediaite URL So that’s the truth as far as we know.

  94. @Mr. Anon
    The state of America in Lavins

    1970s America: Linda Lavin

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ff-Bn6Y-RSk/Tpo_bxF1C7I/AAAAAAAAHZU/KkCubuLljBI/s1600/Linda%2BLavin%2B3.jpg

    2010s America: Talia Lavin

    https://research.theliberalists.info/pile/sites/default/files/styles/max_325x325/public/2018-07/talia-lavin.jpg?itok=3AemTJV5

    Poor fucker, couldn’t even stick it out long enough to get his green card.

  95. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    Talia also would get along well with Muslim masters. She smokes, she’s chubby, fat actually, ugly butta-face, has a weird shape. But with jugs. Am I allowed to say jugs?

  96. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    One would think that being a smoker she might drop a few pounds……

  97. Anonymous[967] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.

    https://twitter.com/chick_in_kiev/status/1108478822251446273?s=21

    Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.

    I don’t see or get the joke.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil

    I don’t see or get the joke.
     
    Nor do I.
    , @donut
    #metoo
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Click on the tweet.
  98. @anon
    Lauren Duca had a pretty infamous interview with Tucker Carlson:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv4WqkogYpA&t=7m37s

    Thanks, 259!

    San Fran born he may have been, but I understand that in his veins flows the blood of more than one of the First Families of Virginia, also to include a famous officer of the Virginia militia whose late arrival in Virginia was more than atoned for by wounds twice sustained while running Lord Cornwallis to ground, and whose gradual emancipation plan, had it been followed, might just have had us all living in a far better country. Perhaps it is, as that greatest of Virginians said regarding the bravery of our first president’s grandnephew, then held hostage by the Charlie Manson of the 1850s, that, “The old Revolutionary blood does tell.”

    Would that some of the descendants of those who did not make the trek westward would honor their ancestors and find the courage to defend the Commonwealth against the pernicious effects of immivasion, whether foreign or domestic.

  99. @AnotherDad

    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?
     
    Short Answer: You got a better idea?

    Longer Answer:

    1) The "nation of immigrants" (immigration forever) or worse "open borders" program is essentially a death sentence. It means the US ends up getting shittier and shittier until it's so crowded and mediocre that no one else wants to come ... and immigration can finally, blissfully cease. That--immigrationism--*alone* is a bigger fault line than we had in the 1850s when the quarrel over slavery was mostly between at least between related Anglo origin groups, and with high-quality, good-faith leadership (which unfortunately we didn't have) could have been tractable. And beyond that we have the sheer nuttiness of the left that you see in say the gay-marriage hysteria (round up the Christian cake bakers!) or "transgender" nonsense.

    In sum, the left has an end-to-end "dead man walking" agenda, which is hostile to men being men, women being women and together having replacement fertility and instead pushes population replacement. Basically it is genocidal towards white Americans.

    Given that, if we don't win, what's the alternative but to try and leave?

    2) As i've said many times before, the most important thing about saying "separation" is its propaganda value.

    The plain fact is the Democrats coalition-of-the-fringes is parasitic on the white American nation. Even its most prosperous metros--NY and Washington--are prosperous precisely because they extract through finance and through taxation from a large prosperous white (or formerly white) nation. (Bay Area admittedly a bit different.) It's precisely the fact that generations of white guys--my ancestors--have built up such a rich prosperous nation, that these parastic fringes can exist.

    (This is, if anything, even more obvious when it comes to immigration. Why are immigrants here? Because white guys built a better nation than their ancestors did back home ... and they want a piece of it.)

    White people standing up for themselves and saying "Fine, you have your multicultural, open-borders utopia. We'll pass." is useful because it unmasks the actual "Who whom". Despite all the whining about oppressive white men, the reality is the reverse. The fringes can't stand the thought of white people having their own nations, taking care of their own business, working for themselves rather than providing loot. White people are their serfs. Proposing separation unmasks this.

    So you are saying this is a rhetorical device in order to get the other side thinking and not a serious proposal? That sounds about right because if you really had something like that in mind, you would want to do it with utmost secrecy and not telegraph your intentions in advance.

    The problem is that the other side may take you at your word and act first “in self defense”. The best thing is to strangle baby Hitler in the cradle.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    I live for a Jack D vs. AnotherDad mano-a-mano podcast/cage-match.

    Here's hoping there's some way to bring that about.
    , @ben tillman
    delete
    , @ben tillman

    So you are saying this is a rhetorical device in order to get the other side thinking and not a serious proposal?
     
    It's a proposal to get those on the sideline thinking as well as a serious proposal.
    , @Svigor
    Uhm, Jewish history is kind of fraught on this topic, what with Jews seeming to find (or discuss) excuses to kill newborns with disturbing frequency. Maybe skip the talk about strangling babies in their cribs, going forward?

    That said, peaceful partition is obviously doable, unless the other side responds with violence.

  100. Jpod’s implosion is already causing a serious comedy erosion…at least in tweetosphere.

    The priceless part of Jpod’s Gezegenung is a human-mimicking sentiment, freshly exhibited under the influence of London Amuseum’s “Jews, Money, Myth” fair :

    “But what shall it profit a man if he gain the reader but lose his soul?”

  101. I’m about to utter words, i can hardly believe myself …

    I’m 100% with the Pod on this one. Stopped clock.

  102. @El Dato
    Gee, I wonder what will happen next.

    https://www.thewrap.com/nyu-journalism-talia-lavin-new-yorker-fact-checker-false-ice-agent-nazi-tattoo/

    New York University has hired Talia Lavin as an adjunct journalism professor less than a year after the former New Yorker fact checker resigned after falsely accusing an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent of having a Nazi tattoo.
     
    Everyone should sport a "Nazi tattoo". Crosses, Triangles, Circles, Suns, Lightning Bolts, Handsigns ... Heads would explode, Jews would be attacked by bare skin in the street, the Wokeupopcalypse would be tremendous.

    This : Blutgruppentätowierung

  103. @Dave Pinsen
    Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.

    https://twitter.com/chick_in_kiev/status/1108478822251446273?s=21

    Holodomor joke

    OK, so I’m an idiot. What’s the Holodomor joke?

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    I'm guessing it has something to do with Kiev. A city in the Ukraine. But, that as far as I've managed to get.
    , @Daniel H
    >> OK, so I’m an idiot. What’s the Holodomor joke?

    You have to click on the tweet. One twitter follower responded to the effect that Lavin (fat Chick in Kiev) will hoover up all the food around, provoking a famine. Ukraine famine = Holodomor. The twitterer wasn't making the connection to the Holodomor but the sly and intelligent David Pinsen was. It was a funnier observation than Talia Lavin's comedy routine.

  104. Do JPod’s followers own any neutron bombs

    An enhanced radiation weapon is still a nuclear device and there will be residual radiation, although in a much smaller area than the case with conventional fission or fission-fusion-fission bombs.

    I object to the idea that these are clean bombs. Radiation ionizes tissue and the deaths would be messy and prolonged.

    I object to the ideas of clean strikes for the same reason. Collateral damage, also known as killing a hundred civilians to get one person, precison strikes, that is an exact hit on one person that kills a hundred civilians, or clean nuclear weapons are all still weapons delivered by people in remote locations.

    They are evil.

  105. Let’s learn this rule here, shall we? It’s getting tiresome:

    If you make a joke, presuming the good will of your reader for the joke to pass muster, your devoted antagonists will ALWAYS attempt to keelhaul you in popular media by interpreting the joke literally,, then denouncing you as a “loose cannon” or worse, if they think they can get away with it.

    Podhoretz’ other mistake was, in a self-declared good will gesture, appearing to attempt to reign in his own perceived narcissism by taking the dramatic turn of freezing his account. Itself an act of narcissism. Simply deleting the neutron bomb tweet, followed wit a “point taken. not my best tweet,” and moving on would have been the healthiest choice.

    Granted, it would have been the mentally healthiest choice in a fucking nuthouse, but there’s something to be said for psychological integrity, and intellectual self-possession under the extremely fucked up circumstances called “twitter.”

  106. @Jack D
    So you are saying this is a rhetorical device in order to get the other side thinking and not a serious proposal? That sounds about right because if you really had something like that in mind, you would want to do it with utmost secrecy and not telegraph your intentions in advance.

    The problem is that the other side may take you at your word and act first "in self defense". The best thing is to strangle baby Hitler in the cradle.

    I live for a Jack D vs. AnotherDad mano-a-mano podcast/cage-match.

    Here’s hoping there’s some way to bring that about.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    I live for a Jack D vs. AnotherDad mano-a-mano podcast/cage-match.

    Here’s hoping there’s some way to bring that about.
     
    This *is* the cage match. It's hand-to-hand combat via keyboard, and a knockout in the first few seconds in favor of Jack D. AnotherDad has a lot of fascinating anecdotes, but Jack D is several weight classes above, g factor-wise. That's not even counting his many decades of general *and* specialized knowledge.
  107. @Anonymous

    Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.
     
    I don't see or get the joke.

    I don’t see or get the joke.

    Nor do I.

  108. @Anonymous

    Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.
     
    I don't see or get the joke.

    #metoo

  109. @Ozymandias
    OT:
    I had thought that this would have really blown up by now; but what do I know?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

    It’s apparently old news . See Tim Pool .

  110. @Vinteuil
    I live for a Jack D vs. AnotherDad mano-a-mano podcast/cage-match.

    Here's hoping there's some way to bring that about.

    I live for a Jack D vs. AnotherDad mano-a-mano podcast/cage-match.

    Here’s hoping there’s some way to bring that about.

    This *is* the cage match. It’s hand-to-hand combat via keyboard, and a knockout in the first few seconds in favor of Jack D. AnotherDad has a lot of fascinating anecdotes, but Jack D is several weight classes above, g factor-wise. That’s not even counting his many decades of general *and* specialized knowledge.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Please, you are over-selling me. I could never meet those expectations (nor is Another Dad chopped liver). I am just a humble (chicken) farm boy.
    , @Svigor
    You forgot to mention how hilarious ALL of his jokes are, Johan.

    And surely you can't be serious. All Jack has going for him is 24 hours a day of free time.

    And 1 thing I've learned very well, over the last 20 years, is that it's not all about the g. A guy with good arguments and a lower IQ can usually beat a guy with bad arguments and a higher IQ, as long as the former is over a certain threshold (you need to be able to do a bit of research, understand logic, think arguments through, avoid unforced errors, predict forced errors, etc.); maybe 120 or so.

    And in the areas where he's challenged, Jack usually has shitty arguments.

  111. @Anon
    I was kind of impressed that Talia Levin quit the New Yorker over a mistaken tweet, rather than ride it out: two weeks and things would have died down. Maybe the New Yorker panicked and gave her the tap on the shoulder.

    She had earlier gained some internet fame:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/193697/what-is-the-love-ballad-of-turd-ferguson

    She supports gun control, it seems:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1529674195218.jpg

    Oh wow, she does standup also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FCEO8E-c

    Why are there are so many midgets on reality TV?
     

    Is this an example of Jew Privilege or was it filmed for educational purposes in some mental health care facility ?

  112. @Anon
    The New Yorker "fact checker," Talia Lavin, did quite a bit of writing at the magazine, 31 pieces:

    https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/talia-lavin

    This one is autobiographical, in the guise of a recipe for chicken soup:

    https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/leaving-a-religion-and-a-marriage-and-gaining-a-chicken-soup

    I left Orthodox Judaism when I left home, and I’ve never made a Jewish chicken soup since. When I return to my family’s table, it’s as a prodigal, wisecracking, chain-smoking daughter.

    At twenty-seven, I have not yet learned to cook for just myself. For seven years, when I cooked at all, I cooked for the man who became my husband when I was twenty-four. At our wedding, the food was good—I don’t remember what we ate, but I remember that we continued eating throughout the toasts.

    We were married for two years: enough time to acquire a KitchenAid mixer but not enough to acquire children, enough time to share a studio apartment but not enough to buy a house. When I moved out, I took the pitcher shaped like an elephant and most of the platters, but I left in such a hurry that half my books remained.

    Some months after the divorce, I invited more friends than could fit into my tiny living room for a dinner. I laid out a card table that jutted into the kitchen, arranging folding chairs whose backs knocked the walls and caught at the door’s handle. I made scalloped potatoes. I blanched asparagus.

    The friends I invited had seen me sob in broad daylight when my husband first left. They had fielded calls at unreasonable hours. In return, I made them avgolemono.
     
    This must be what got her the NYU job:

    https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-neo-nazis-of-the-daily-stormer-wander-the-digital-wilderness

    Yeah , I guess that’s why lawyers in criminal cases don’t put their clients on the stand .

  113. @Johann Ricke

    I live for a Jack D vs. AnotherDad mano-a-mano podcast/cage-match.

    Here’s hoping there’s some way to bring that about.
     
    This *is* the cage match. It's hand-to-hand combat via keyboard, and a knockout in the first few seconds in favor of Jack D. AnotherDad has a lot of fascinating anecdotes, but Jack D is several weight classes above, g factor-wise. That's not even counting his many decades of general *and* specialized knowledge.

    Please, you are over-selling me. I could never meet those expectations (nor is Another Dad chopped liver). I am just a humble (chicken) farm boy.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    You and Another Dad made Heartiste's: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2019/03/22/freelance-comment-of-the-week-i-cant-get-no-separation/
  114. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    Suspect the US will undergo a relatively peaceful, quiet dissolution into semi-autonomous zones, ala Northern Ireland vs Ireland, perhaps with limitations on foreign treaties. Ironically, I don’t think it will be Middle-American Whites to call for this first. It will be a coalition of minorities / liberals, who cannot overcome the electoral college because of their geographic concentration and who cannot control high government because they will increasingly lack the IQ to organize.

    Flashpoint will likely be the Supreme Court along with the Electoral College, as we are seeing now. With growing secularism, childlessness, austerity from Boomer debt, and ethnic balkanization, it is inevitable that calls for overhaul will only increase. After a few election cycles of liberals winning popular votes by large margins but not winning control of government, the wheel will be set in motion.

    By 2040, your average White will feel as much allegiance to California or Arizona, as they currently do with Puerto Rico.

    • Replies: @captflee
    I would not count the Troubles well and truly over just yet, with Brexit's uncertainty, there are undoubtedly ways things could go wrong and that party resume anew. I recall that my celtic cousins certainly popularized, if they didn't invent, the VBIED, and hold a grudge like nobody's business.
    , @Anonymous
    Yes, 'states rights' will become a rallying-cry again, not for whites, but for various minorities--especially Hispanics.
  115. @Vinteuil

    Holodomor joke
     
    OK, so I'm an idiot. What's the Holodomor joke?

    I’m guessing it has something to do with Kiev. A city in the Ukraine. But, that as far as I’ve managed to get.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Did you try click on the tweet to expand it?
  116. @Anonymous

    Speaking of Talia Lavin, this is the first Holodomor joke I’ve seen and it’s pretty good.
     
    I don't see or get the joke.

    Click on the tweet.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Dave, I love you brother, but the tweet "justifies the holodomor" doesn't explain this. Please provide sufficient context.
  117. @PV van der Byl
    I'm guessing it has something to do with Kiev. A city in the Ukraine. But, that as far as I've managed to get.

    Did you try click on the tweet to expand it?

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    Sorry, Dave. I am just not Twitter adept.

    Were you referring to the guy who wrote "the depth of their hostility to Ukrainians never ceases to amaze me"?
  118. @CCR
    Are readers supposed to know what "J school" is without googling?

    I did a double-take when I saw Podheretz calling for the destruction of Jewish schools.

  119. @Dave Pinsen
    Did you try click on the tweet to expand it?

    Sorry, Dave. I am just not Twitter adept.

    Were you referring to the guy who wrote “the depth of their hostility to Ukrainians never ceases to amaze me”?

  120. @anon
    Suspect the US will undergo a relatively peaceful, quiet dissolution into semi-autonomous zones, ala Northern Ireland vs Ireland, perhaps with limitations on foreign treaties. Ironically, I don't think it will be Middle-American Whites to call for this first. It will be a coalition of minorities / liberals, who cannot overcome the electoral college because of their geographic concentration and who cannot control high government because they will increasingly lack the IQ to organize.

    Flashpoint will likely be the Supreme Court along with the Electoral College, as we are seeing now. With growing secularism, childlessness, austerity from Boomer debt, and ethnic balkanization, it is inevitable that calls for overhaul will only increase. After a few election cycles of liberals winning popular votes by large margins but not winning control of government, the wheel will be set in motion.

    By 2040, your average White will feel as much allegiance to California or Arizona, as they currently do with Puerto Rico.

    I would not count the Troubles well and truly over just yet, with Brexit’s uncertainty, there are undoubtedly ways things could go wrong and that party resume anew. I recall that my celtic cousins certainly popularized, if they didn’t invent, the VBIED, and hold a grudge like nobody’s business.

  121. @Vinteuil

    Holodomor joke
     
    OK, so I'm an idiot. What's the Holodomor joke?

    >> OK, so I’m an idiot. What’s the Holodomor joke?

    You have to click on the tweet. One twitter follower responded to the effect that Lavin (fat Chick in Kiev) will hoover up all the food around, provoking a famine. Ukraine famine = Holodomor. The twitterer wasn’t making the connection to the Holodomor but the sly and intelligent David Pinsen was. It was a funnier observation than Talia Lavin’s comedy routine.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Her Twitter pic makes her look kind of sexy but if you see the whole Talia she looks like a beached whale.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    The guy who said that was replying to a tweet that said "Talia Lavin's twitter feed justified the Holodomor".
  122. @anon
    Suspect the US will undergo a relatively peaceful, quiet dissolution into semi-autonomous zones, ala Northern Ireland vs Ireland, perhaps with limitations on foreign treaties. Ironically, I don't think it will be Middle-American Whites to call for this first. It will be a coalition of minorities / liberals, who cannot overcome the electoral college because of their geographic concentration and who cannot control high government because they will increasingly lack the IQ to organize.

    Flashpoint will likely be the Supreme Court along with the Electoral College, as we are seeing now. With growing secularism, childlessness, austerity from Boomer debt, and ethnic balkanization, it is inevitable that calls for overhaul will only increase. After a few election cycles of liberals winning popular votes by large margins but not winning control of government, the wheel will be set in motion.

    By 2040, your average White will feel as much allegiance to California or Arizona, as they currently do with Puerto Rico.

    Yes, ‘states rights’ will become a rallying-cry again, not for whites, but for various minorities–especially Hispanics.

  123. @YetAnotherAnon
    iSteve alert!

    Washington, D.C. "saw the most African American residents — more than 20,000 — displaced from their neighborhoods, mostly by affluent, white newcomers" of any city in the country between 2000 and 2013
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2019/03/19/study-dc-has-had-highest-intensity-gentrification-any-us-city/

    Next class reunion, I’ll have to tease the gray guy who lives in DC he’s an ethnic cleanser.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Er, gay guy.
  124. @Redneck farmer
    Next class reunion, I'll have to tease the gray guy who lives in DC he's an ethnic cleanser.

    Er, gay guy.

  125. @Daniel H
    >> OK, so I’m an idiot. What’s the Holodomor joke?

    You have to click on the tweet. One twitter follower responded to the effect that Lavin (fat Chick in Kiev) will hoover up all the food around, provoking a famine. Ukraine famine = Holodomor. The twitterer wasn't making the connection to the Holodomor but the sly and intelligent David Pinsen was. It was a funnier observation than Talia Lavin's comedy routine.

    Her Twitter pic makes her look kind of sexy but if you see the whole Talia she looks like a beached whale.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  126. @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time.

    And why would I care? Fighting for survival beats the hell out of accepting certain death.

  127. @Dave Pinsen
    Click on the tweet.

    Dave, I love you brother, but the tweet “justifies the holodomor” doesn’t explain this. Please provide sufficient context.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    That's the set-up ("Talia Lavin's twitter feed justified the Holodomor").

    The punchline (remember, she lives in Kiev and is zaftig, as KMG puts it), was "Her food intake probably causing one rn".

    Prompting the first guy to tweet "Holy shit lol".
  128. @Anonymous
    Technically this is a terroristic threat by Podhoretz. He may have been banned.

    Cuomo has called for an, " investigation. "

    Give me a break. It’s a million miles from a threat since not even the PNACers could make that happen.

  129. @Jack D
    So you are saying this is a rhetorical device in order to get the other side thinking and not a serious proposal? That sounds about right because if you really had something like that in mind, you would want to do it with utmost secrecy and not telegraph your intentions in advance.

    The problem is that the other side may take you at your word and act first "in self defense". The best thing is to strangle baby Hitler in the cradle.

    delete

    • Replies: @res
    Ben, to delete your own comment just edit out all of the text then save it.
  130. @Jack D
    So you are saying this is a rhetorical device in order to get the other side thinking and not a serious proposal? That sounds about right because if you really had something like that in mind, you would want to do it with utmost secrecy and not telegraph your intentions in advance.

    The problem is that the other side may take you at your word and act first "in self defense". The best thing is to strangle baby Hitler in the cradle.

    So you are saying this is a rhetorical device in order to get the other side thinking and not a serious proposal?

    It’s a proposal to get those on the sideline thinking as well as a serious proposal.

  131. @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    Do they have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation with us? I mean, short of us just bending the knee to them and assenting to every stupid, cockamamie, destructive idea they believe in? Because I don’t see it. I don’t welcome social breakdown, and I hope it doesn’t come to that – I am, as the movie cliche goes – too old for that s**t. But if the left keeps pushing at the structure and undermining the foundation of society, it will eventually collapse.

  132. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3
    Dave, I love you brother, but the tweet "justifies the holodomor" doesn't explain this. Please provide sufficient context.

    That’s the set-up (“Talia Lavin’s twitter feed justified the Holodomor”).

    The punchline (remember, she lives in Kiev and is zaftig, as KMG puts it), was “Her food intake probably causing one rn”.

    Prompting the first guy to tweet “Holy shit lol”.

  133. @Daniel H
    >> OK, so I’m an idiot. What’s the Holodomor joke?

    You have to click on the tweet. One twitter follower responded to the effect that Lavin (fat Chick in Kiev) will hoover up all the food around, provoking a famine. Ukraine famine = Holodomor. The twitterer wasn't making the connection to the Holodomor but the sly and intelligent David Pinsen was. It was a funnier observation than Talia Lavin's comedy routine.

    The guy who said that was replying to a tweet that said “Talia Lavin’s twitter feed justified the Holodomor”.

  134. @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    … do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    “Lavin and her kind” don’t have any inclination to live peacefully, so your question is pointless.

  135. Jpod has not decided yet on serving his opponents with the Clean Break…before, or after Samson Option:

    • Replies: @Svigor
    I Dissented J-Pod's "great, another anti-semite" Tweet @ Andrew Yang's statement that he's against circumcision, to the effect that J-Pod seems like a crypto-anti-semite; he frequently says stuff that makes Jews look bad. It might just be aggressive stupidity, though.
  136. @ben tillman
    delete

    Ben, to delete your own comment just edit out all of the text then save it.

  137. @Jack D

    Which is why people entertain the idea that it was a set-up of some kind. Soo convenient.
     
    "False flag" is always the excuse of apologists for a cause. Terrorist attacks are rarely if ever false flag operations, not Muslim ones and not WN ones. "Who benefits" is not an accurate test - people often do stuff that is self-defeating to themselves and their movements.

    That, or “No True Scotsman.” I.e., Einstein was a real Jew despite having been irreligious, while Stalin’s Jews weren’t, because irreligious.

  138. @bored identity
    Jpod has not decided yet on serving his opponents with the Clean Break...before, or after Samson Option:

    https://i.postimg.cc/05QwGmf6/REPENT-REPRLLENTS.jpg

    I Dissented J-Pod’s “great, another anti-semite” Tweet @ Andrew Yang’s statement that he’s against circumcision, to the effect that J-Pod seems like a crypto-anti-semite; he frequently says stuff that makes Jews look bad. It might just be aggressive stupidity, though.

  139. @Jack D
    The other day I was listening to a discussion on gun control on NPR in my car - the very pro debater (that was the debate - between someone pro gun control and someone VERY pro gun control - this is the acceptable range of opinion on NPR) was bemoaning the fact that in other countries a single massacre is enough to get guns banned (and she listed all the countries where that had happened) but much to her chagrin (that pesky Constitution again) this never seems to work in the US.

    They do that thing where they’ll have four Jews talking about stuff, too.

  140. @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    Well, America was founded on a violent, illegal revolution – just a bit of context there.

    Maybe we could do it more nicely, next time. Say, the way Israel was founded? HMU on your moral and ethical assessment of that, and we can proceed from there.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The Founding Fathers (among the richest, most respectable men in the colonies) thought about this question long and hard - the Declaration explains the reasoning. Basically that it has to be really bad, not just a little bit bad, before you try this. Also that if you try, you had better have a plan for (and the resources and support for) actually winning (Franklin - "we must all hang together or else we shall hang separately"). Arguably the Confederacy failed on both counts.

    Israel was founded as a result of a partition approved by the United Nations. That's as close as you are ever going to get in international affairs to a stamp of approval. The Arabs did not accept this partition and a war followed. Ultimately national existence is not founded on morality or ethics but on the ability to take and hold territory. There are peoples with arguably ample moral and ethical claims (although there is no real arbiter of what claims are moral) who lack nations of their own (e.g. the Kurds) and there are nations (Russia) who occupy territories (e.g. E. Prussia) to which they have very little moral or ethical claims, but in the end might makes right.
  141. @Jack D
    So you are saying this is a rhetorical device in order to get the other side thinking and not a serious proposal? That sounds about right because if you really had something like that in mind, you would want to do it with utmost secrecy and not telegraph your intentions in advance.

    The problem is that the other side may take you at your word and act first "in self defense". The best thing is to strangle baby Hitler in the cradle.

    Uhm, Jewish history is kind of fraught on this topic, what with Jews seeming to find (or discuss) excuses to kill newborns with disturbing frequency. Maybe skip the talk about strangling babies in their cribs, going forward?

    That said, peaceful partition is obviously doable, unless the other side responds with violence.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    Maybe skip the talk about strangling babies in their cribs, going forward?
     
    But if we did this, how would we get the blood for our matzos? Passover is coming soon.
  142. @Johann Ricke

    I live for a Jack D vs. AnotherDad mano-a-mano podcast/cage-match.

    Here’s hoping there’s some way to bring that about.
     
    This *is* the cage match. It's hand-to-hand combat via keyboard, and a knockout in the first few seconds in favor of Jack D. AnotherDad has a lot of fascinating anecdotes, but Jack D is several weight classes above, g factor-wise. That's not even counting his many decades of general *and* specialized knowledge.

    You forgot to mention how hilarious ALL of his jokes are, Johan.

    And surely you can’t be serious. All Jack has going for him is 24 hours a day of free time.

    And 1 thing I’ve learned very well, over the last 20 years, is that it’s not all about the g. A guy with good arguments and a lower IQ can usually beat a guy with bad arguments and a higher IQ, as long as the former is over a certain threshold (you need to be able to do a bit of research, understand logic, think arguments through, avoid unforced errors, predict forced errors, etc.); maybe 120 or so.

    And in the areas where he’s challenged, Jack usually has shitty arguments.

  143. I mean it’s OBVIOUSLY not about the g. If it was, (((they))) would debate )))us(((, crush us, and move on, victorious.

    Instead they run away to the mods.

    (And no, I’m not talking about some obscure forum. I’m talking about on national television. What are the big-brained Jews so afraid of?)

  144. @Svigor
    Well, America was founded on a violent, illegal revolution - just a bit of context there.

    Maybe we could do it more nicely, next time. Say, the way Israel was founded? HMU on your moral and ethical assessment of that, and we can proceed from there.

    The Founding Fathers (among the richest, most respectable men in the colonies) thought about this question long and hard – the Declaration explains the reasoning. Basically that it has to be really bad, not just a little bit bad, before you try this. Also that if you try, you had better have a plan for (and the resources and support for) actually winning (Franklin – “we must all hang together or else we shall hang separately”). Arguably the Confederacy failed on both counts.

    Israel was founded as a result of a partition approved by the United Nations. That’s as close as you are ever going to get in international affairs to a stamp of approval. The Arabs did not accept this partition and a war followed. Ultimately national existence is not founded on morality or ethics but on the ability to take and hold territory. There are peoples with arguably ample moral and ethical claims (although there is no real arbiter of what claims are moral) who lack nations of their own (e.g. the Kurds) and there are nations (Russia) who occupy territories (e.g. E. Prussia) to which they have very little moral or ethical claims, but in the end might makes right.

    • Replies: @Svigor

    The Founding Fathers (among the richest, most respectable men in the colonies) thought about this question long and hard – the Declaration explains the reasoning. Basically that it has to be really bad, not just a little bit bad, before you try this. Also that if you try, you had better have a plan for (and the resources and support for) actually winning (Franklin – “we must all hang together or else we shall hang separately”). Arguably the Confederacy failed on both counts.
     
    Obviously, any group trying to pull off a violent, illegal revolution is going to say "it's really bad, not just a little bit bad"; this is basically a tautology. It's tantamount to asking the revolutionaries if they really want to win. If they do, they'll say "yeah it's horrible, really hyuuugely bad." Psychology 101.

    The fact is, it wasn't really bad.

    It wasn't bad for Jews, either. The war was over, and they'd won. The US was paradise for Jews. But they wanted Israel anyway, so they worked for it, and they got it.


    Israel was founded as a result of a partition approved by the United Nations.
     
    So, if the UN takes it back, Israel's instantly illegitimate and has to close down?

    C'mon, guy. Never mind the pilpul; come out from behind the UN's skirts.


    That’s as close as you are ever going to get in international affairs to a stamp of approval.
     
    ZFG about international stamps of approval. Totally irrelevant. USA got no international stamp of approval. In fact, USA was an illegal, violent revolution.

    The Arabs did not accept this partition and a war followed. Ultimately national existence is not founded on morality or ethics but on the ability to take and hold territory.
     
    There you go. Game, set, match. Thx for playing.

    Of course, the foundation of national existence, the ability to take and hold territory, is morality and ethics.

  145. @Svigor
    Uhm, Jewish history is kind of fraught on this topic, what with Jews seeming to find (or discuss) excuses to kill newborns with disturbing frequency. Maybe skip the talk about strangling babies in their cribs, going forward?

    That said, peaceful partition is obviously doable, unless the other side responds with violence.

    Maybe skip the talk about strangling babies in their cribs, going forward?

    But if we did this, how would we get the blood for our matzos? Passover is coming soon.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    K you got me there.
  146. @Jack D
    The Founding Fathers (among the richest, most respectable men in the colonies) thought about this question long and hard - the Declaration explains the reasoning. Basically that it has to be really bad, not just a little bit bad, before you try this. Also that if you try, you had better have a plan for (and the resources and support for) actually winning (Franklin - "we must all hang together or else we shall hang separately"). Arguably the Confederacy failed on both counts.

    Israel was founded as a result of a partition approved by the United Nations. That's as close as you are ever going to get in international affairs to a stamp of approval. The Arabs did not accept this partition and a war followed. Ultimately national existence is not founded on morality or ethics but on the ability to take and hold territory. There are peoples with arguably ample moral and ethical claims (although there is no real arbiter of what claims are moral) who lack nations of their own (e.g. the Kurds) and there are nations (Russia) who occupy territories (e.g. E. Prussia) to which they have very little moral or ethical claims, but in the end might makes right.

    The Founding Fathers (among the richest, most respectable men in the colonies) thought about this question long and hard – the Declaration explains the reasoning. Basically that it has to be really bad, not just a little bit bad, before you try this. Also that if you try, you had better have a plan for (and the resources and support for) actually winning (Franklin – “we must all hang together or else we shall hang separately”). Arguably the Confederacy failed on both counts.

    Obviously, any group trying to pull off a violent, illegal revolution is going to say “it’s really bad, not just a little bit bad”; this is basically a tautology. It’s tantamount to asking the revolutionaries if they really want to win. If they do, they’ll say “yeah it’s horrible, really hyuuugely bad.” Psychology 101.

    The fact is, it wasn’t really bad.

    It wasn’t bad for Jews, either. The war was over, and they’d won. The US was paradise for Jews. But they wanted Israel anyway, so they worked for it, and they got it.

    Israel was founded as a result of a partition approved by the United Nations.

    So, if the UN takes it back, Israel’s instantly illegitimate and has to close down?

    C’mon, guy. Never mind the pilpul; come out from behind the UN’s skirts.

    That’s as close as you are ever going to get in international affairs to a stamp of approval.

    ZFG about international stamps of approval. Totally irrelevant. USA got no international stamp of approval. In fact, USA was an illegal, violent revolution.

    The Arabs did not accept this partition and a war followed. Ultimately national existence is not founded on morality or ethics but on the ability to take and hold territory.

    There you go. Game, set, match. Thx for playing.

    Of course, the foundation of national existence, the ability to take and hold territory, is morality and ethics.

  147. @Jack D

    Maybe skip the talk about strangling babies in their cribs, going forward?
     
    But if we did this, how would we get the blood for our matzos? Passover is coming soon.

    K you got me there.

  148. @Jack D
    Please, you are over-selling me. I could never meet those expectations (nor is Another Dad chopped liver). I am just a humble (chicken) farm boy.
    • Replies: @Jack D
    Everyone always thinks that THEIR war will be a cakewalk. It will be over in 2 weeks. "The population will greet us with flowers." Then reality sets in.
  149. @Dave Pinsen
    You and Another Dad made Heartiste's: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2019/03/22/freelance-comment-of-the-week-i-cant-get-no-separation/

    Everyone always thinks that THEIR war will be a cakewalk. It will be over in 2 weeks. “The population will greet us with flowers.” Then reality sets in.

    • Replies: @Number9

    Everyone always thinks that THEIR war will be a cakewalk. It will be over in 2 weeks.
     
    The irony. How’s that war with a few thousand primitive goat-herders in Afghanistan going? After 17 years, looks like it’s about time to declare “victory” and cede the territory to the other side.

    How shocked you and your fellow guns are icky subversives are going to be when you discover that you won’t just get to watch a hot war against what remains of Western Civilization on television. You’ll be experiencing it as a full participant.
  150. @Jack D
    You (and others) keep saying stuff like this but basically you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time. Short of partition/expulsion/violence/self-exile, do you have any plan for living peacefully in the same nation as Lavin and her kind (especially if they become the majority)?

    “you are espousing a partition and civil war. Did not go that well the last time.”

    On the other hand, it went pretty well the time before that (1776).

    But also, the origins of the Civil War are no longer well understood. It has been buried by a century and a half of Abolitionist agitprop.

    One side in the Civil War had been importing and breeding incompatible third-worlders hand over fist. The other side may or may not have disapproved of this morally, but certainly did not wish to compete with or become subject to this “Slave Power”. With the western half of the continent still unsettled and unincorporated, and the Slave Power threatening to bring slave-owning Caribbean and Latin America into the Union, the free states were justifiably anxious about letting the slave states carry on their slave enterprise.

    Now maybe the free states should have just let the slave states go about building their slave empire and importing and breeding a bigger servant underclass. And maybe in time that project would just have gone the way of Brazil … or Haiti. Maybe. But for better or worse, they decided to preserve the Union.

    The Civil War successfully contained the Slave Power and its inherent Negro problem in the reincorporated Southeast. It halted the expansion of the slave-fueled plantation state. Which is to say, AnotherDad’s side won after all, albeit at high cost. But they preserved their nation and people.

    The race problem stayed contained and managed in the Southeast for most of a century until the welfare state, fake “civil rights”, and Hart-Cellar subsidized and expanded the Negro problem, imported a new third world serf class, and set about building a new serf-fueled plantation state.

    The new Civil War will now be re-fought for essentially the same reason as the last one: regular Americans don’t want to compete with—or worse, to be—serfs and slaves. Except this time the battle lines will be urban and personal, and the rules will be irregular and undeclared. In fact, they already are. It’s still relatively cool now, but the coastal oligarchs miss no opportunity to raise the temperature, so it is getting warmer all the time.

    tl;dr: Actually went reasonably well last time. No guarantees this time.

  151. @Jack D
    Everyone always thinks that THEIR war will be a cakewalk. It will be over in 2 weeks. "The population will greet us with flowers." Then reality sets in.

    Everyone always thinks that THEIR war will be a cakewalk. It will be over in 2 weeks.

    The irony. How’s that war with a few thousand primitive goat-herders in Afghanistan going? After 17 years, looks like it’s about time to declare “victory” and cede the territory to the other side.

    How shocked you and your fellow guns are icky subversives are going to be when you discover that you won’t just get to watch a hot war against what remains of Western Civilization on television. You’ll be experiencing it as a full participant.

  152. I hear “White Nationalist” and “White Nationalism” being bandied about quite a bit.

    Can anyone offer a cogent, clear and testable definition of “White Nationalist”? Serious question.

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