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With the Establishment’s designated undocumented worker Jose Antonio Vargas back in the news, it’s worth mentioning again what I pointed out about him in 2011:

The hunt for the Great Bright Illegal continues. Everybody who is anybody keeps proclaiming that we are lucky to be getting all these highly talented illegal immigrants from Mexico, but, as the decades and generations go by, it’s hard to come up with very many names of high achievers to anecdotally illustrate the bromides.

A couple of weeks ago, the NYT Magazine made a big whoop over a reporter named Jose Antonio Vargas, who won a share of a Pulitzer Prize for being part of a team of Washington Post reporters who covered the Virginia Tech mass murders of 31 students (by an immigrant, of course, but that part usually gets left out). Not surprisingly, Vargas is gay. More surprisingly, he’s an Asian, a Filipino. That’s pretty weak when you can’t even find a Mexican after decades of trying.

 
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  1. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:

    And the last two quarters the US economy has shrank; even by the the ginned up numbers of this mendacious administration. Thanks, all you productive immigrants.

    The narrative pushers are cult members; wearing their Nike tennis shoes, laying on a table covered with a triangular purple blanket, and joyously awaiting for the magic illegal immigrant to arrive and whisk them to paradise.

  2. Jose is not a common name anymore in the philippines. Neither is Antonio.

    – john marzan

  3. “Everybody who is anybody keeps proclaiming that we are lucky to be getting all these highly talented illegal immigrants from Mexico,”

    I didn’t know it takes a high amount of talent to flip burgers and wash dishes. None of the Illegals from Mexico and Central America who are crossing the border into the U.S were laser eye surgeons and architects back in their home countries. We are not lucky to have these people at all because we do not get their cream of the crop, we get their nation’s dumbest and poorest.

  4. Gay, non-white and illegal? No wonder the NYT is drooling over him.

  5. Why does it matter? You don’t like legal immigrants and non-Mexicans either.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Anonymous

    Why does it matter? You don’t like legal immigrants and non-Mexicans either.

    The legal/illegal immigrant is a largely false divide played on by TPTB. When the time comes, lets say an amnesty, the divide will have suffered a controlled demolition.

    All the avowed non-racist 'conservative' opposition to illegal immigration will be silenced, because now they're legal. See how it works. (Obviously it won't be quite as tidy as that)

    The ultimate issue is immigration and the demographics of said immigrants. Whether they are legal or illegal is a proximate, bureaucratic, semantic hairsplitting issue that only plays into the hands of the elites.

    What counts in the end is if people arrive, settle, have kids etc. That's regardless of their being legal/illegal or refugees, or asylum seekers or whatever.

  6. The Left cannot afford to make Mixtec-speaking stoop laborers the face of open borders.

  7. Priss Factor [AKA "Cloudcastler"] says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/14/lois-lerners-former-fec-colleague-has-emails-go-missing-too/

    With 97% of government workers being Democrats, they can conspire to do this. A total outrage worse than watergate.

    With most of media being Democratic, they look the other way.

    This is a one-party bureaucratic and media nation. It’s two-part only demographically, but even that is changing fast. Besides, even most GOP politicians serve Adelson and AIPAC.

  8. Mr. Vargas’ arrest underscores the need for immigration reform for people who were brought here as young children. Action should be taken immediately. The Dream Act should be passed and signed swiftly. These folks are American through and through. It’s not a question of arrogance or Pulitzer Prize. It’s a question of doing the right thing. The American thing.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Tiny Duck

    Free speech says: •

    "These folks are American through and through."

    No they're not. They're foreigner invaders. Also children of foreigner invaders. They should be deported immediately if not sooner.

    Some immigrant calling somebody "American through and through" doesn't make them American.

    I'm American. My earliest traceable ancestor came from Leiden in 1668. I have multiple traceable ancestors (on both mother's and father's side) that found in the American Revolution.

    Some semi-literate Indian whose Mom flopped across the border is not American. In fact, I think people whose earliest traceable answer wasn't here before the War of 1812 is not American but I realize I'm in the minority there. People whose earliest traceable ancestor wasn't here before 1900? DEFINITELY not American.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  9. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Bill Blizzard and his Men"] says:

    Just a reminder:the presence of this illegal alien homo phillipino in the US is a direct consequence of the Mega-CEO owned Republican-Democratic Party low wage-wage slave labor policy for The Historic Native Born White American Majority…Mega-CEO stark raving fear of a severe labor scarcity(very high real wage economy for millions of White Americans) drives post-1965 Immigration Policy. Perhaps this is what we should be discussing instead of a wierdo illegal alien from the Phillipines.

    A very severe labor scarcity should never be used as an excuse to race-replace The Historic Native Born White American Majority. This is the fundamental issue(Mega-CEO-Mega Greed)behind the demographic shift in the US.

  10. I can’t remember if I’ve mentioned this before, but I personally coached two outstandingly bright Hispanic kids who I know for a fact were illegal. One had a 31 composite on his ACT, the other had a 1900 on the SAT, ,27 composite ACT, despite having been in this country for just a couple years. I wrote about the latter student here: https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/the-problem-with-fraudulent-grades/ In fact, now that I think of it, the other kid was in the group I was describing just before that–comprehensive high school, high grades, high achievement. I know the first went to a top-tier public; not sure what happened to the second.

    Top achieving Hispanic illegals are rare, but they do exist. Both of these kids were considerably brighter than Jose, who should be kicked out of the country for his hubris.

  11. Not surprisingly, Vargas is gay. More surprisingly, he’s an Asian, a Filipino. That’s pretty weak when you can’t even find a Mexican after decades of trying.

    Well the Philippines used to be part of New Spain along with Mexico. So I guess that is close enough for them.

  12. If just could be that if he wasn’t gay he’d be less of a cause cĂ©lèbre.

  13. advancedatheist [AKA "RedneckCryonicist"] says:

    You can always find outliers in generally undistinguished groups, like this Mexican-American neurosurgeon:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Quinones-Hinojosa

  14. The Left needs Vargas. Who else is going to be the face of Open Borders? A Mixtec-speaking stoop laborer?

  15. Perhaps we can arrange a same sex marriage between Vargas and Greg Packer.

    • Replies: @John Cunningham
    @WhatEvvs

    you mean Greg "Fudge" Packer?

  16. anon • Disclaimer says:

    “This newly settled community included many victims of violence. It also included many perpetrators of violence.”
    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/an-immigration-crisis-we-brought-on-ourselves/374491/

    I wonder if David Frum, who, together with Mark Levin, happens to be one of the only mainstream Jews to be on the right side of the immigration issue, is reading Steve, who made the same point a few days ago.

  17. OT, but Charles Murray’s done a long interview with Bill Kristol:

  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve,

    When I first ran across the Unz Review, I was intrigued with the content. After a few months, though, I have come to the conclusion that you are a classical Calvinist with a not-so-subtle sense of personal election. The problem with Calvinism and other Ideologies of Election is that there are winners in the lottery of life and there are losers. The winners typically identify Providence, or God’s promise, or evolution, or NDA, or culture to account for their election at others’ expense. For Western civilization, Calvinism has proved a pervasive moral and cultural disease. It has been the cultural and religious progenitor of the worst evils of the African slave trade, capitalism and industrialization, British and American imperialism and the genocide of native peoples, and it has direct links to the rise of National Socialism (NAZI)in Germany. I guess the headline of your blog really anticipated it all … Human Biodiversity … social Darwinism. Counting yourself among the elect, you seem to have designated yourself as one of the winners in life; and your blog seems to be full of nuanced cameos intended to protect your community of the Elect from the “devils spawn” of inferior races, cultures, and religions. Please, Steve, take off your Calvinist-colored glasses and see yourself as you are!

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Anonymous

    I sympathize with a lot of Steve's ideas, but I don't consider myself "elect." It is pretty simple, our current society is the product of centuries, even millennia, of work, including lots of very bloody trial and error and missteps, done by my direct European ancestors. Since I share a lot of the genetic traits of my ancestors it is not surprising I have a much higher aptitude for succeeding in this society than people whose ancestors are indigenous to the American continent or descended from African slaves. I am quite happy to see people from other cultures succeed in this society, provided they play by the same rules. I don't agree with those who want to radically change this society to make it easier for the lazy, the unethical or the simply untalented or ill-adapted to succeed. While I can empathize, the risk of destroying what we have seems to me to outweigh the moral benefits. I have spent years living abroad, and I have seen first hand just how thin the line is between a well- functioning society, a disfunctional society of intelligent people as in Italy, or an incredibly disfunctional and vicious society of intelligent people as in Russia. I also believe that a lot of the people who shout loudest about reform or compassion are very cynical people who prey on people's natural empathy for the downtrodden to line their own pockets, and Steve is one of the best at noticing this sort of hypocrisy.

    , @alonzo portfolio
    @Anonymous

    You big dummy, what percentage of Steve's readers do you think are Italians like me who never thought of themselves as remotely 'elect' and felt lucky to live in a place where everything worked and everyone spoke English and nobody got special favors from government? You know, like 1980?

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    As Curtis Sliwa says, "you couldn't be more hopelessly wrong".

  19. HA says:

    I have come to the conclusion that you are a classical Calvinist with a not-so-subtle sense of personal election.

    Really? Is the conviction that human intelligence, or athletic ability, or musical skill, or most anything else, has a significant genetic component equivalent to assuming that we are unalterably destined for heaven or damned to hell from the moment of conception?

    How far does this straw man argument of yours extend? Is agitating for lower immigration levels equivalent to urging that all immigrants be put on cattle cars and shipped to concentration camps for immediate liquidation?

    Living with all that black and white must be tough on your eyes – it’s obviously doing a number on your sanity.

  20. @Tiny Duck
    Mr. Vargas' arrest underscores the need for immigration reform for people who were brought here as young children. Action should be taken immediately. The Dream Act should be passed and signed swiftly. These folks are American through and through. It's not a question of arrogance or Pulitzer Prize. It's a question of doing the right thing. The American thing.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Free speech says: •

    “These folks are American through and through.”

    No they’re not. They’re foreigner invaders. Also children of foreigner invaders. They should be deported immediately if not sooner.

    Some immigrant calling somebody “American through and through” doesn’t make them American.

    I’m American. My earliest traceable ancestor came from Leiden in 1668. I have multiple traceable ancestors (on both mother’s and father’s side) that found in the American Revolution.

    Some semi-literate Indian whose Mom flopped across the border is not American. In fact, I think people whose earliest traceable answer wasn’t here before the War of 1812 is not American but I realize I’m in the minority there. People whose earliest traceable ancestor wasn’t here before 1900? DEFINITELY not American.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @William Badwhite

    DEFINITELY not American

    Sigh, that's too bad. Can you reconsider, perhaps? I am a white immigrant guy whose entire family totally absorbed all of the American values and culture. Other than a slight accent, we don't stand out in our solid middle class neighborhood. We pay lots of taxes, support immigration restrictions and detest liberal anti-Americanism. Are you absolutely sure you want us to leave?

    Replies: @William Badwhite

  21. I wonder what grad program “ReadingHistory” paid $100k to learn about “Ideologies of Election” being responsible for all the bad things ever.

  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/07/21/140721fa_fact_aviv?currentPage=all

    Steve, this long piece on the Atlanta Public Schools test cheating scandal (and the focus on the trials and tribulations of one school, Parks Middle) is chock full of iStevey goodness. The pressures of No Child Left Behind, “data driven” educational policy, zero acknowledgement of the importance of IQ, fatherless communities, lack of reasonably dignified work options for “slower” kids…really incredible.

    Hope you can do something with it!

  23. @WhatEvvs
    Perhaps we can arrange a same sex marriage between Vargas and Greg Packer.

    Replies: @John Cunningham

    you mean Greg “Fudge” Packer?

  24. @Anonymous
    Steve,

    When I first ran across the Unz Review, I was intrigued with the content. After a few months, though, I have come to the conclusion that you are a classical Calvinist with a not-so-subtle sense of personal election. The problem with Calvinism and other Ideologies of Election is that there are winners in the lottery of life and there are losers. The winners typically identify Providence, or God's promise, or evolution, or NDA, or culture to account for their election at others' expense. For Western civilization, Calvinism has proved a pervasive moral and cultural disease. It has been the cultural and religious progenitor of the worst evils of the African slave trade, capitalism and industrialization, British and American imperialism and the genocide of native peoples, and it has direct links to the rise of National Socialism (NAZI)in Germany. I guess the headline of your blog really anticipated it all ... Human Biodiversity ... social Darwinism. Counting yourself among the elect, you seem to have designated yourself as one of the winners in life; and your blog seems to be full of nuanced cameos intended to protect your community of the Elect from the "devils spawn" of inferior races, cultures, and religions. Please, Steve, take off your Calvinist-colored glasses and see yourself as you are!

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @alonzo portfolio, @Dave Pinsen

    I sympathize with a lot of Steve’s ideas, but I don’t consider myself “elect.” It is pretty simple, our current society is the product of centuries, even millennia, of work, including lots of very bloody trial and error and missteps, done by my direct European ancestors. Since I share a lot of the genetic traits of my ancestors it is not surprising I have a much higher aptitude for succeeding in this society than people whose ancestors are indigenous to the American continent or descended from African slaves. I am quite happy to see people from other cultures succeed in this society, provided they play by the same rules. I don’t agree with those who want to radically change this society to make it easier for the lazy, the unethical or the simply untalented or ill-adapted to succeed. While I can empathize, the risk of destroying what we have seems to me to outweigh the moral benefits. I have spent years living abroad, and I have seen first hand just how thin the line is between a well- functioning society, a disfunctional society of intelligent people as in Italy, or an incredibly disfunctional and vicious society of intelligent people as in Russia. I also believe that a lot of the people who shout loudest about reform or compassion are very cynical people who prey on people’s natural empathy for the downtrodden to line their own pockets, and Steve is one of the best at noticing this sort of hypocrisy.

  25. Priss Factor [AKA "Skyislander"] says: • Website

    I must say this is as futile as finding a creative conservative.

  26. The non-white people that are finding themselves being invited into white majority countries “for a free lunch” should consider that “if something sounds too good to be true it probable is” (too good to be true). I’m finding it quite difficult to not imagine some kind of conspiracy theory where non-whites are invited into white majority countries for the purpose of replacing “the wrong type of white people” and then vanish when their job is done. Is this not possible in the Golden Age of Biotechnology? Do these immigrants really believe that the white elites are their friends?

  27. Umm….regarding the Calvinists. I thought it was the non-Calvinists who imported African slaves, and the Calvinists (mainly) who advocated abolition. But I could be wrong.

  28. “Really? Is the conviction that human intelligence, or athletic ability, or musical skill, or most anything else, has a significant genetic component equivalent to assuming that we are unalterably destined for heaven or damned to hell from the moment of conception? ”

    Why argue with something that is clearly bulls**t? Best just to call people like that disingenuous and move on.

  29. “I must say this is as futile as finding a creative conservative”

    If by conservative you mean old fashioned religious socially conservative prudes who are against sex before marriage and vote for laws that prohibit the sale of alcohol on Sundays a.k.a dry counties in the bible belt states, than yeah you will not find any artistically creative people among them.

    But there are artistically creative people on the right who have a libertarian streak, just look at the creators of “King Of The Hill”, “Beavis And Butthead”, and “South Park” for example.

  30. He won a Pulitzer like Obama “won” pres. of the law review, pure AA
    Didn’t that other AA win a Pulitzer reporting for the NYT, the college dropout who was fired for plagairism, or were there 2 of them? I can’t keep count.

  31. @Anonymous
    Steve,

    When I first ran across the Unz Review, I was intrigued with the content. After a few months, though, I have come to the conclusion that you are a classical Calvinist with a not-so-subtle sense of personal election. The problem with Calvinism and other Ideologies of Election is that there are winners in the lottery of life and there are losers. The winners typically identify Providence, or God's promise, or evolution, or NDA, or culture to account for their election at others' expense. For Western civilization, Calvinism has proved a pervasive moral and cultural disease. It has been the cultural and religious progenitor of the worst evils of the African slave trade, capitalism and industrialization, British and American imperialism and the genocide of native peoples, and it has direct links to the rise of National Socialism (NAZI)in Germany. I guess the headline of your blog really anticipated it all ... Human Biodiversity ... social Darwinism. Counting yourself among the elect, you seem to have designated yourself as one of the winners in life; and your blog seems to be full of nuanced cameos intended to protect your community of the Elect from the "devils spawn" of inferior races, cultures, and religions. Please, Steve, take off your Calvinist-colored glasses and see yourself as you are!

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @alonzo portfolio, @Dave Pinsen

    You big dummy, what percentage of Steve’s readers do you think are Italians like me who never thought of themselves as remotely ‘elect’ and felt lucky to live in a place where everything worked and everyone spoke English and nobody got special favors from government? You know, like 1980?

  32. Best just to call people like that disingenuous and move on.

    I considered that, but in the end I opted for calling him out on his straw-man tactics and his compromised sanity. I don’t see that as a major difference.

  33. @Anonymous
    Steve,

    When I first ran across the Unz Review, I was intrigued with the content. After a few months, though, I have come to the conclusion that you are a classical Calvinist with a not-so-subtle sense of personal election. The problem with Calvinism and other Ideologies of Election is that there are winners in the lottery of life and there are losers. The winners typically identify Providence, or God's promise, or evolution, or NDA, or culture to account for their election at others' expense. For Western civilization, Calvinism has proved a pervasive moral and cultural disease. It has been the cultural and religious progenitor of the worst evils of the African slave trade, capitalism and industrialization, British and American imperialism and the genocide of native peoples, and it has direct links to the rise of National Socialism (NAZI)in Germany. I guess the headline of your blog really anticipated it all ... Human Biodiversity ... social Darwinism. Counting yourself among the elect, you seem to have designated yourself as one of the winners in life; and your blog seems to be full of nuanced cameos intended to protect your community of the Elect from the "devils spawn" of inferior races, cultures, and religions. Please, Steve, take off your Calvinist-colored glasses and see yourself as you are!

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @alonzo portfolio, @Dave Pinsen

    As Curtis Sliwa says, “you couldn’t be more hopelessly wrong”.

  34. Filipinos racially confuse some people in the U.S. I remember meeting a drunk redneck at a bar in Plano, Texas which is a suburb of Dallas that has a large Asian population and he asked the bartender why do Filipinos look like Chinese but have Spanish last names ?

    He definitely had way too many drinks to be saying something that politically incorrect in public. He reminded me of Mel Gibson when he drinks too much.

  35. I must say this is as futile as finding a creative conservative.

    Take THAT, Tolkien, Yeats, Eliot, and Conrad! Some anonymous internet poster says you’re not creative!

  36. e says:

    “These folks are American through and through.”

    Hell, no, they’re not: that’s why they want open borders or at least a flood of third world illegals.

    Were it up to me, I’d kick his ass out of here in a second. It’s not like he’s a Salk or an Einstein, for God’s sake or a simple STEM guy, for God’s sakes.

  37. e says:

    BTW, watched the Kristol interview of Murray last night. I felt bad for the guy when he said, rather off-handedly, that he realized he had been clinically depressed for a time after the publication of The Bell Curve and the reaction to it, for which he had been unprepared. It simply reminded me of academic cowardice. What % of academics have any ‘nads at all?

  38. Please, Steve, take off your Calvinist-colored glasses and see yourself as you are!

    There’s nothing Calvinist about not wanting strangers (let alone bums) breaking into your house and sleeping in your bed, you twit.

  39. @Anonymous
    Why does it matter? You don't like legal immigrants and non-Mexicans either.

    Replies: @Lurker

    Why does it matter? You don’t like legal immigrants and non-Mexicans either.

    The legal/illegal immigrant is a largely false divide played on by TPTB. When the time comes, lets say an amnesty, the divide will have suffered a controlled demolition.

    All the avowed non-racist ‘conservative’ opposition to illegal immigration will be silenced, because now they’re legal. See how it works. (Obviously it won’t be quite as tidy as that)

    The ultimate issue is immigration and the demographics of said immigrants. Whether they are legal or illegal is a proximate, bureaucratic, semantic hairsplitting issue that only plays into the hands of the elites.

    What counts in the end is if people arrive, settle, have kids etc. That’s regardless of their being legal/illegal or refugees, or asylum seekers or whatever.

  40. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @William Badwhite
    @Tiny Duck

    Free speech says: •

    "These folks are American through and through."

    No they're not. They're foreigner invaders. Also children of foreigner invaders. They should be deported immediately if not sooner.

    Some immigrant calling somebody "American through and through" doesn't make them American.

    I'm American. My earliest traceable ancestor came from Leiden in 1668. I have multiple traceable ancestors (on both mother's and father's side) that found in the American Revolution.

    Some semi-literate Indian whose Mom flopped across the border is not American. In fact, I think people whose earliest traceable answer wasn't here before the War of 1812 is not American but I realize I'm in the minority there. People whose earliest traceable ancestor wasn't here before 1900? DEFINITELY not American.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    DEFINITELY not American

    Sigh, that’s too bad. Can you reconsider, perhaps? I am a white immigrant guy whose entire family totally absorbed all of the American values and culture. Other than a slight accent, we don’t stand out in our solid middle class neighborhood. We pay lots of taxes, support immigration restrictions and detest liberal anti-Americanism. Are you absolutely sure you want us to leave?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Anonymous

    @Anonynoid

    DEFINITELY not American

    "Sigh, that’s too bad. Can you reconsider, perhaps? I am a white immigrant guy whose entire family totally absorbed all of the American values and culture. Other than a slight accent, we don’t stand out in our solid middle class neighborhood. We pay lots of taxes, support immigration restrictions and detest liberal anti-Americanism. Are you absolutely sure you want us to leave?"

    No, you don't have to leave. Ideally there would be some system where I personally could select who leaves and who stays (so long Rachel Maddow! You too Barry Soetero...) but failing that, people that have assimilated like yourself can stay. Ideally it would be at least 5 generations before you could vote, but I realize that would be tough to implement.

    But you don't get to lecture everyone on how some gay Filipino or hordes of Central American Indians are "American through and through" because "we're a nation of immigrants" or because some immigrant named Lazarus wrote a poem about throwing trash on the ground (or something like that).

    That said, I know you didn't, some other (immigrant) did. You seem like the perfect immigrant - realizing that America was a pretty nice place BEFORE you (or your grandfather, or whoever) got here and that it would be rude to demand that everything be changed to accommodate your native culture. So thank you for that.

  41. ….

    Were our Dear Rulers actually devoted to their oaths to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, they would not have allowed Mr. Vargas to have remained here, they would have deported him posthaste, and they would have made a Big International Publicity Deal out of their having upheld the law – of their having honored their oaths of office – simply to deter further invasion by law-breaking individuals such as Vargas and his parents.

    But our Dear Rulers have not done so. Which tells us volumes about our Dear Rulers’ dishonesty, and about their obeisance to the class made up of their globalist campaign donors.

    Before anyone tries to say that Vargas was brought here and that that somehow exempts him from applicable immigration law, bear in mind that Vargas is himself is a lawbreaker as he has perjured himself on various immigration forms and has by commission of fraud obtained various documents and licenses – he is, by such fraud, plainly the sort of character we should want to have in our midst, because to desire and to cause such a thing to come to pass is, as commenter Free Speech grandiloquently assures us, “the American thing.”

  42. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Well the Philippines used to be part of New Spain along with Mexico.”

    Mexico and the Philippines were connected by routine trans-Pacific travel starting around 1565:

    “The Manila Galleons… were Spanish trading ships that made round-trip sailing voyages once or twice per year across the Pacific Ocean from the port of Acapulco in New Spain (present-day Mexico) to Manila in the Spanish East Indies (present day-Philippines). … the trade route between Acapulco and Manila… lasted from 1565 to 1815.

    …they averaged from 1,700 to 2,000 tons, were built of Philippine hardwoods and could carry a thousand passengers. … Most of the ships were built in the Philippines and only eight in Mexico.”

  43. What are Steve’s religious views?

  44. @Anonymous
    @William Badwhite

    DEFINITELY not American

    Sigh, that's too bad. Can you reconsider, perhaps? I am a white immigrant guy whose entire family totally absorbed all of the American values and culture. Other than a slight accent, we don't stand out in our solid middle class neighborhood. We pay lots of taxes, support immigration restrictions and detest liberal anti-Americanism. Are you absolutely sure you want us to leave?

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    @Anonynoid

    DEFINITELY not American

    “Sigh, that’s too bad. Can you reconsider, perhaps? I am a white immigrant guy whose entire family totally absorbed all of the American values and culture. Other than a slight accent, we don’t stand out in our solid middle class neighborhood. We pay lots of taxes, support immigration restrictions and detest liberal anti-Americanism. Are you absolutely sure you want us to leave?”

    No, you don’t have to leave. Ideally there would be some system where I personally could select who leaves and who stays (so long Rachel Maddow! You too Barry Soetero…) but failing that, people that have assimilated like yourself can stay. Ideally it would be at least 5 generations before you could vote, but I realize that would be tough to implement.

    But you don’t get to lecture everyone on how some gay Filipino or hordes of Central American Indians are “American through and through” because “we’re a nation of immigrants” or because some immigrant named Lazarus wrote a poem about throwing trash on the ground (or something like that).

    That said, I know you didn’t, some other (immigrant) did. You seem like the perfect immigrant – realizing that America was a pretty nice place BEFORE you (or your grandfather, or whoever) got here and that it would be rude to demand that everything be changed to accommodate your native culture. So thank you for that.

  45. We pay lots of taxes, support immigration restrictions

    The sort of restrictions that would have prevented you from emigrating to the US?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Numinous

    The sort of restrictions that would have prevented you from emigrating to the US?

    Yes. I am grateful for being allowed in but I realize that, in a grand scheme of things, it was probably a mistake on your part. I took advantage of it - as is perfectly natural for humans. But for the sake of my children and my new home country, I don't want that mistake to be repeated.

  46. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Numinous
    We pay lots of taxes, support immigration restrictions

    The sort of restrictions that would have prevented you from emigrating to the US?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The sort of restrictions that would have prevented you from emigrating to the US?

    Yes. I am grateful for being allowed in but I realize that, in a grand scheme of things, it was probably a mistake on your part. I took advantage of it – as is perfectly natural for humans. But for the sake of my children and my new home country, I don’t want that mistake to be repeated.

  47. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Mexico and the Philippines were connected by routine trans-Pacific travel starting around 1565”

    “…Many of the so-called “Kastilas” or Spaniards in the Philippines were actually of Mexican descent, and the Hispanic culture of the Philippines is somewhat close to Mexican culture. …

    …The Manila galleons sailed the Pacific for two hundred and fifty years, bringing to Spain their cargoes of luxury goods, economic benefits, and cultural exchange.”

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