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John Podhoretz, Hereditary Editor of Commentary, seems a tad worked up over my tweeting out an amusingly Photoshopped retconning of the now-classic Houston rescue picture, calling me “a loathsome, reprllent racist filth.”

JPod tends to be prone to sudden rage attacks, so it’s not always easy to understand what triggers him. My best guess would be that JPod is upset because I alluded to the hard-earned reputation of the Weinsteins — whose films (such as Django Unchained) have earned an impressive 26 Best Picture nominations — as the most famous purveyors of Oscar bait.

As several commenters have suggested, a good name for this movie would be: Based on a True Story.

By the way, I’ve lost track of who I got this picture from and who did the Photoshop. Please let me know in the comments so I can credit them.

Commenter 3g4me replies:

I provided the link to the photo in an earlier comment thread in response to a comment by
Dave Pinsen referring to the full original photo showing the woman’s husband. I found the meme photo in a comment thread at Chateau Heartiste, attributed to /pol/. It made me laugh and I’ve been sharing it where appropriate. I don’t know who at /pol/ actually made the meme but full kudos to them.

Thanks. Do you have a link to the original? What’s /pol/? I see that a lot but I don’t know what it is.

The original photo was taken by David J. Phillip of the AP.

Here’s a version from Reddit:

 
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  1. Projection.

    Meanwhile, the source of the evil juju emanations has been found: Former WaPo Religion columnist Sally Quinn

    Says she’s killed or ruined three people through demonic hexes and it’s all she can do to restrain herself from placing a hex on Donald Trump.

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/27/sally-quinn-next-act-finding-magic/

    • Replies: @Rifleman

    "a Loathsome, Reprllent Racist Filth"
     
    .............and what's worse - a guy pathologically obsessed with golf courses and counting and numbering everything.

    Podhoretz twitters like a girl, a social justice warrior girl.

    And like a paranoid, vindictive and highly ethnocentric Jew.

    Podhoretz has always been a dunderhead, a popinjay and a craven, malodorous scoundrel who traffics and balderdash and flapdoodle.

    To him I say, feh!
    , @celt darnell
    She actually admits to believing in and practicing witchcraft. This is allegedly one of our society's intellectual and cultural elites.

    Christ, we're in worse shape than I thought...
    , @Pat Boyle
    We need those gay columnists. Otherwise how would we know that Channing Tatum is good looking? I guess he is attractive although I always wondered. He has a kind of melted looking face. Cary Grant seems handsome mostly because he has chiseled features. Or at least that was always my criteria. But then this Tatum guy emerged and I was confused. To me he looked bland but there had to be some appeal that got him into movies. Fortunately we have gay movie critics who can set us straight.
    , @Pat Boyle
    Sorry my comment to the left is for another thread. It is in reply to a posting about Channing Tatum in "Racial Chemotherapy"...
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Oh, HER! She used to be known as "Poison Quinn," not least because of her tendency to butter people up, get them to reveal something embarrassing, and print it. (Now common practice, but in those days, still considered unprofessional.) When she was looking for a job after graduation, she did what any struggling career girl would do and threw a party for other society numpties. Sadly for us all, it worked.

    She then affected to espouse feminism, but got her start the bimbo way, marrying and shagging Ben, not necessarily in that order. Her book, We're Going to Make You a Star, contained page after page of unwitting revelations that her failure as co-host of a morning show resulted mostly from her lack of preparation or even consciousness that she needed to prepare. Her attempt to do a Glitz-and-Glamour novel, Regrets Only, was of such quality as to prompt Christopher Buckley to term it "cliterature."

    Last I heard, most of her family wouldn't have anything to do with her. As Malignant Narcissists generally do, she is probably wondering why everyone else is always so unreasonable.
  2. You’ve made it. The vermin can’t ignore you.

    The trouble with pucs like this is White women. It’s natural for hostile and hateful races to undermine better races, but if gullible WWs didn’t lap up this BS it wouldn’t be viable. WW = Oxygen

  3. Heheheh

    • Agree: Opinionator
    • LOL: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @Pat Boyle
    At one time my government job was to evaluate government programs. This was in the eighties as I remember. I was not the only evaluator but I was the only one who actually did any real evaluation. I told the other time servers who never published a report "If they don't call you a Nazi. You aren't really doing your job."

    I remember filing an unfavorable report on a senior program and the contractor referred to me at the County Board as "Boyle and his storm troopers". My storm troopers averaged about 85.

    So if they call you a fascist or a Nazi or a racist - wear it with pride. Proof that you are doing your job.
  4. Does “reprllent” mean repellent? Repugnant? I know I make a lot of typos, but he must have been particularly filled with rage while he was typing that. Based on what I have seen of the Weinsteins work, they are experts on producing filth. I guess Podhoretz and I have different definitions of what constitutes filth.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    I would think he was calling our Steve repellent.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    So is "reprllent" the new "covfefe," or do typo memes only go one way?
  5. Anon • Disclaimer says: • Website

    If Sailer applied Sailerism to Israel alone, Pod would be his greatest fan.

    What people like Pod fear most is Independence. Independence means a people will put their interests first and at center. Pod wants all white Americans to put their own identity/interests in the back-burner to serve the greater ‘good’ of globalism dominated by Elysium Club that allows ethno-centrism only for Israel.

    When Hindus began to put their identity and interests first, they no longer wanted to serve the ‘higher’ interests of the British Empire.

    If a people want to opt out of globalist supremacism, they are attacked as ‘supremacist’.

    • Agree: NickG, Miro23
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Israel is to Podhoretz and his ilk what gay black Muslim feminists would be to the New York Times.
    , @AnotherDad

    If Sailer applied Sailerism to Israel alone, Pod would be his greatest fan.
     
    Steve's citizenism is the core of what pisses JPod off. Along no doubt with Steve's "noticing" and in particular contrasts of what's kosher in Israel versus here.

    But this is still a bit off. "Sailerism"--i.e. citizenism--which Steve advocates is not what Israel practices/what JPod approves of. Israel is openly an ethno-nationalist state and not just in a nodding "this is our culture" sort of way, but in a policy specific sort of way (e.g. selective immigration).

    More accurate would be to say that if Richard Spencer applied "Spencerism" to Israel alone JPod would be his greatest fan.

    ~~

    While JPod is pretty much a loon--often seeming to be no more than a crude caricature of Jewish ethnic resentments--his particular line of thought on these sorts of issues seems quite common among a whole slew of Jewish commentators from center-left through right:

    Israel is ... Israel, a nation, the homeland of the Jewish people. And Israel must do anything that is necessary to preserve itself as the homeland of the Jewish people.

    All other nations, however, are in the category of "host nations". They must be "open". They in particular must be ever open to the Jews or else they are "anti-Semitic". And white nations in particular must be deconstructed to be open to all and "multicultural" so that minorities--like Jews--can always feel welcome. And super-specifically the United States is the ultimate "host nation" and has no legitimate native character--it's a "nation of immigrants"--and must have open immigration to utterly drown those racist rednecks who somehow think they have some claim on it.
  6. I hate JPod

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    I hate JPod
     
    He's an odious human. But honestly can't summon up a lot "hate"--he's pretty much a pipsqueak who everyone informed knows has his media perch through sheer nepotism. Even though he was NR PC conformant he alienated even all those cucks by just being a big talentless jerk.

    Paul Ryan on the other hand... pretty sure, he's regularly trotting down to the 9th circle to scheme with his friends.
  7. Let the good times eggroll?

  8. Well, if you’re (((John Podhoretz))) and you’re one of God’s Chosen people, I guess everyone who isn’t a Member of the Tribe would be considered “loathsome, repellent filth.”

  9. Steve used but didn’t properly cite a piece of original art. Now Google has an excuse to deplatform unz.com.

  10. This reminds me of when he called you “a scum”!!!!

    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    MDCLXVI writes: This reminds me of when he called you “a scum”!!!!

    I do not know John Podhoretz well, but I have always assumed that Podhoretz (maybe I'm confusing him with his father) is at least a cultured native speaker of English. Considering the wording "a loathsome reprllent racist filth", the "reprllent" can be excused as a mistyping done in a state of agitation, but any native speaker would treat "filth" as a mass noun, not a count noun. The wording "a filth" -- like "a scum" -- is pure foreign-sounding illiteracy.
  11. @Barnard
    Does "reprllent" mean repellent? Repugnant? I know I make a lot of typos, but he must have been particularly filled with rage while he was typing that. Based on what I have seen of the Weinsteins work, they are experts on producing filth. I guess Podhoretz and I have different definitions of what constitutes filth.

    I would think he was calling our Steve repellent.

    • Replies: @Glaivester
    I think what John Podhorrtz was saying about Steve Sailrr was extrrmely obvious. I don't know how anyone could evrr not undrrstand it.
  12. Jeez, Podhoretz is even terrible at ad hominem attacks…

  13. Well, hey, now. You’ll eventually get around to doing something not totally loathsome and repellent, like encouraging us to turn more working-class young men into eventual PTSD-addled opioid addicts that the health hacks make a killing off of, so that we can send the Middle East into further anarchy and chaos. All while wasting trillions of dollars that could give us a more functional health care system, border, or college tuition system. Or maybe even an expedition to Mars.

    That’s totally more moral.

    Oh, wait, it isn’t. Which is why Generation Z is looking to you.

  14. Anonymous [AKA "Ffgh"] says:

    Steve:

    Judging by JPpd’s twitter feed, you have an Army of reinforcements coming to your defense.

    • Replies: @Broski
    Indeed. The replies were awesome.
    , @Danindc
    Exactly. Not sure if I've ever seen comments a blue-checked twitter feed run so badly against that person. That really has to bother that psycho.
    , @Olorin
    Coming soon:

    Evan Williams apologizes for adding value to Steve Sailer's blog entries;
    embarks on self-flagellation auto-da-fe campus speaking tour
    for further deballsing John Podhoretz's failing brand
  15. I provided the link to the photo in an earlier comment thread in response to a comment by
    Dave Pinsen referring to the full original photo showing the woman’s husband. I found the meme photo in a comment thread at Chateau Heartiste, attributed to /pol/. It made me laugh and I’ve been sharing it where appropriate. I don’t know who at /pol/ actually made the meme but full kudos to them.

  16. For years you’ve been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR.

    But in all that time you’ve never explained your absence from TAC for whom you once wrote.

    I suppose this is as good a time to ask as any.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "For years you’ve been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR."

    I don't recall saying that.

    , @benjaminl
    I'm just a random fan who doesn't know anything...

    But I understand from Wikipedia that Taki, Pat Buchanan, Scott McConnell, and Ron Unz were all formerly associated with TAC, and are no longer.

    Knowing that, it wouldn't surprise me if the current publishers of TAC are strongly committed to avoid violating the Sacred Taboos of the Current Year.

    On the other hand, TAC star blogger Rod Dreher semi-frequently links favorably to Steve.
    , @Lot
    I do not recall SS writing for NR regularly. He probably had better pay and a bigger audience working at UPI.
  17. @Anon
    If Sailer applied Sailerism to Israel alone, Pod would be his greatest fan.

    What people like Pod fear most is Independence. Independence means a people will put their interests first and at center. Pod wants all white Americans to put their own identity/interests in the back-burner to serve the greater 'good' of globalism dominated by Elysium Club that allows ethno-centrism only for Israel.

    When Hindus began to put their identity and interests first, they no longer wanted to serve the 'higher' interests of the British Empire.

    If a people want to opt out of globalist supremacism, they are attacked as 'supremacist'.

    Israel is to Podhoretz and his ilk what gay black Muslim feminists would be to the New York Times.

  18. You reprllent racist! Watch the cinematic adaptation and clap! Where did you get the idea that you can think for yourself, notice patterns or question the right of your (((betters))) to rewrite the history of human events as they see fit? 2 +2 =5. As Harvey unleashed its fury, evil white males were rescued by robust minority women.

    Question to istevers. Any favorite actors/actresses in mind for the 2025 production of “Harvey, the alt-flood that attacked Houston from the right.” I vote for Lucy Liu as the rescuer and Shia Labeouf (with dyed blonde hair) as the hopeless hick who – too busy humping his sister – was completely unprepared for the storm.

  19. People sure do get riled up on social media, don’t they?

    I’m hard pressed to understand how exactly that bit got Podhoretz so excited.

    Denunciation is all the rage.

    • Replies: @guest
    "I'm hard pressed to understand how exactly that bit got Podhoretz so excited"

    Perhaps the echo effect of "Weinstein?"

    I'd ask what if Steve picked a non-echoey Hollywood producer name, but I can't think of one right now.
    , @Broski
    "Denunciation is all the rage."

    Kevin MacDonald calls it the Culture of Critique for a reason.
  20. Give the guy a break.

    Photoshop hasn’t been invented yet in his universe. He lives in another time, and he thinks the picture is real:

    “I have great difficulty supporting a blanket policy of immigration restriction because of what happened to the Jewish people after 1924 and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in.”
    — John Podheretz

    • Replies: @guest
    "because of what happened to the Jewish people after 1924"

    He means 18 years after 1924.

    I'd say we probably shouldn't base our opinions of a big, long-term national policy because of how it affected a share of the Family of Man 80 years ago. I'd also ask who could project that such a group would be genocided that far in the future? In another part of the world, no less. And why our national policy should be concerned with what happens way the heck in Central and Eastern Europe, anyway?

    Buuuut, the silliest part is thinking a democracy (or country with the pretense of democracy, and back then maybe the progressive movement hadn't killed it yet)can plan ahead nearly an entire generation. Hardy-har-har.

    , @guest
    "and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in"

    Ah, the turned-away ships.

    What will be the excuse for tearing down statues of FDR? Red-lining or the Ship of Fools...I mean, Jewish Refugee Ship?

    Blacks trump everyone, obviously. But the Holocaust Industry is strong. Don't count it out. Especially against indirect real estate discrimination, which is boring.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    It's perpetually 1933 to the likes of John Podhoretz.
    , @Forbes
    Because nothing has changed since 1924. That's the kind of silly judgment that would be incessantly mocked even in polite company...
    , @El Dato
    What happened to the Jewish people after 1924 exactly?

    Apart from having to pay membership dues to the Communist Party of the Sovunion maybe?
  21. @anony-mouse
    For years you've been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR.

    But in all that time you've never explained your absence from TAC for whom you once wrote.

    I suppose this is as good a time to ask as any.

    “For years you’ve been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR.”

    I don’t recall saying that.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    A Clintonian answer. Maybe you don't recall saying that, but is it true?
    , @Sean C
    I think this is the picture. I don't know if it was edited but it shows the husband carrying his Nikes while the person with white privilege carries the wife and child.

    https://kek.gg/i/d2tXS.jpeg
  22. So good. Nothing better than that, it must be said.

  23. This whole episode has gone over my head. What did he find racist about the tweet? I don’t even get Steve’s original quip.

  24. J-Pod snapped when he saw the name “Weinstein.” Talk about touching a nerve.

    It’s like that scene in “The Verdict” where Paul Newman tries to entice a response from an uncooperative witness by suggesting the accounting department might have some money for the potential witness. “Uh… This is Mr. Goldberg from accounting.”

  25. Poor John.

    Imagine what it must be like to think you are a very important and influential fellow and wake up one fine morning, see who just got elected President, and know, from your naked toes all the way up to your naked scalp, that you will never be important or influential again.

    Only one thing could make that happen: a loathsome, reprllent racist filth. He must be identified and denounced!

  26. @Steve Sailer
    "For years you’ve been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR."

    I don't recall saying that.

    A Clintonian answer. Maybe you don’t recall saying that, but is it true?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    A Clintonian answer. Maybe you don’t recall saying that, but is it true?
     
    When did you stop beating your wife?
  27. I don’t know which is funnier: the fact that “editor” JPod can’t even be bothered to edit his own tweet, or that he doesn’t seem to have a single supporter at his twitter-feed – all the comments appeared to be mocking him.

  28. It’s kind of hard to tell from the photoshop, especially if you haven’t seen the original photo.

    In the original, a big strong white guy is carrying a small Latino looking woman with a baby out of the flood.

    It the photo shop, it’s vice versa.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Don't you think Asian rather than Latino? She'd be fat if she were Latino.
    , @Desiderius
    And Steve's allusion is to the retconning of the past to keep other whites from getting uppity/give non-whites a much needed ego boost - since we all know they're such shrinking violets - currently en vogue among the Hollywood set.

    Steve's putative racism is his usual noticing/dry mockery.
    , @RudyM
    Her last name looks Cambodian to me or Southeast Asian anyway. She looks Southeast Asian as well.
    , @benjaminl
    Per published captions, the rescuer is Daryl Hudeck, and the rescuee is Catherine Pham and child (i.e. Southeast Asian).

    Outside of this particular corner of commentary, the big controversy about this picture was when blogger Matt Walsh made a commonsensical observation:

    "Woman cradles and protects child. Man carries and protects both. This is how it ought to be, despite what your gender studies professor says."

    https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/902179828891353089

    And lo, the wrath of the harpies did descend upon him. Out of the many pointings and shriekings, the official curators of Twitter instructed Tweeters to read the Tweet thread by Christina Wolbrecht, whom they identified as a "Real Professor," explaining interminably why Walsh's Tweet was Problematic.
    , @AndrewR
    She doesn't look "Latino" [sic]. Get your eyes checked.
  29. I’m yahoodi and I found it funny. In my opinion jpod is calling it racist because of the Asian lass.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    No it's SEXIST! The idea of implying that tiny women with babies need rescuing by oversized rednecks, blah blah blah....
  30. /pol/ is the politics board on 4chan. It followed the example of the netoyo from Japan’s 2ch (a site launched in Conway, Arkansas!) who were notorious as anonymous online ultranationalists who blame Koreans for all of the nation’s ills, with Jews swapped in as villains instead. It’s been the breeding ground for lots of memes, of which cuck/cuckservative is probably the most famous right now. The insult took off sleuths discovered site owner Christopher ‘moot’ Poole’s gawker-employed girlfriend was cheating on him during gamergate.

    • Replies: @Candide III
    Why "were notorious"? Japanese 2ch is going strong 18 years after its foundation, as full of netouyo as ever.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Is 4chan /pol/ still up? I looked for it yesterday, but couldn't find it. 8chan /pol/ is still up.

    I don't post on either site, but was just curious to see what they were discussing.

    , @EH
    There are other chans besides 4chan (a.k.a. "half-chan"), most notably 8chan (a.k.a. "infinity chan"), all of which have /pol (politics, specifically right-wing politics) forums. The big chans have /leftypol forums as well.

    /pol anons (users) are the leading weaponized autists on the internet(s), specializing in online investigations, doxing, and meme warfare.
  31. I laughed out loud when I saw the photo. I’m not particularly sensitive to micro aggressions, so I don’t understand what JPod thinks is hateful about the visual gag. Just a humorous take on the media trope that whites are scum and we need vibrant immigrants to save us. On, I guess that’s the problem–he shares that view.

  32. Podhoretz gets smeared as racist by the new left, thinks that smearing others will help him. Thanks, but no thanks. cf http://www.salon.com/2015/03/18/neocons_racial_bait_and_switch_how_john_podhoretz_excuses_blatant_bigotry

    Besides, Podhoretz is a pro-immigration neocon, Sailer opposes both. Simple.

  33. @Jack D
    It's kind of hard to tell from the photoshop, especially if you haven't seen the original photo.

    In the original, a big strong white guy is carrying a small Latino looking woman with a baby out of the flood.

    It the photo shop, it's vice versa.

    Don’t you think Asian rather than Latino? She’d be fat if she were Latino.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    She looks southeast Asian to me.
  34. @Jack D
    It's kind of hard to tell from the photoshop, especially if you haven't seen the original photo.

    In the original, a big strong white guy is carrying a small Latino looking woman with a baby out of the flood.

    It the photo shop, it's vice versa.

    And Steve’s allusion is to the retconning of the past to keep other whites from getting uppity/give non-whites a much needed ego boost – since we all know they’re such shrinking violets – currently en vogue among the Hollywood set.

    Steve’s putative racism is his usual noticing/dry mockery.

  35. John Podhoretz, Hereditary Editor of Commentary

    Jeez, Steve, pick on someone your own size.

    Another example of greatness skipping a generation. If JPod weren’t so pathetically ineffectual, he’d be rivaling Pinch in that category.

  36. “Please let me know in the comments so I can credit them.”

    Because they’re the “real” racist filth for having come up with such a pearl clutching image in the place.

  37. Podhoretz, also known as J.P. Normans-son, either believes:

    1. our Steve is secretly a Daily-Stormer-reading NatSoc, sharpening his bayonet as he awaits the Day of the Rope.

    -or-

    2. Steve’s mild-mannered civic nationalism is “a loathsome, reprllent filth” tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.

    I am honestly unsure which it is. In any case, it’s probably safe to say that Twitter accounts with blue checkmarks and parentheses are some of the biggest recruiting tools that the Alt Right has.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    JPod doesn't believe a damn thing.

    He knows what's left of his power depends on leveraging SWPL/Jewish paranoia/status anxiety to keep more capable writers like Sailer in the ghetto on trumped up charges pour enourager les autres.
    , @Opinionator
    2. Steve’s mild-mannered civic nationalism is “a loathsome, reprllent filth” tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.

    I thought intermarriage with Gentiles was considered Holocaust, Part II. Perhaps civic nationalism is constantly undermined because it is seen as creating favorable conditions for intermarriage.
  38. Any expression of disapproval or contempt by the vacuous limpet JPod is a point in his target’s favor.

  39. OT:
    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/tensions-rise-as-chinese-governments-influence-infiltrates-aussie-universities/news-story/e7768b0bb1f5953a7608884527387372

    Chinese students are policing their lecturers according to Chicom policy. It’s going to work out real swell when they are 51% of the country.

    • Replies: @backup
    Yet another example of how diversity is everything but strength.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Ignorance is obviously not bliss for you. The Chinese or former Chinese Australians living in Australia are neither numerous nor reproducing notably faster than they do in China (where urbanisation continues to do what the one child policy did). Furthermore their numbers continue to be offset by approximately equal numbers of Indians as well as established cohorts like those who were allowed to stay after the Tiananmen Square affair.
  40. This version is on Reddit:

    • Replies: @El Dato
    There shoule be Russians opening the floodgates in the background, while Nazis look on.
    , @fish
    No pokemon points for the guy in the Photoshopped version? No straight guy would wear those boots!

    Okay....maybe Buzz Bissinger.
  41. Hey Steve:

    /pol/ refers to one of the discussion boards on the 4chan website, Politically Incorrect, which covers current events and politics. It is a little spicier than most other places, with an approach to humor ranging from the juvenile to the deliberately offensive. And as an image-based bulletin board, you can find plenty of altered photos there. There are some thoughtful discussions there, however, and /pol/ was favorable toward Trump during the 2016 campaign.

    http://www.4chan.org/
    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    8chan's pol is even better

    https://8ch.net/pol/index.html
  42. Congrats, Steve, especially on the reprllent ! He was inspired to invent a new word for you. Truly creative insults are to be cherished more than compliments. Anyone can be a Nazi, a fascist, or a terrorist, but I was once called a “f#%&ing piece of [email protected]*t French Jew” followed by “Why don’t you go back to Mexico?” And on a Spanish language blog I was called “el satanico brujo mayor del culto Trevi/Andrade”. Not everyone gets to be a supreme satanic warlock – of any cult.

    • LOL: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    It's the incoherence of your nemesis' diatribe that makes it so endearing. A local music promoter was notorious for resembling John Lennon: little round wire glasses on similar features and hair/eye color. One night he strongly encouraged a disruptive drunk to leave the venue; when said drunk finally complied, he turned around in the doorway to deliver his parting shot: "Well, #$%^ you, Paul McCartney!" There's something strangely charming about people who can't even get their insults straight.
  43. At The Weekly Standard, one staff member said, Podhoretz’s “arrogance and egotism had a psychological effect people can’t quite believe.” At The Washington Times a colleague reported, he was “permanently frozen in juvenalia.” Glenn Garvin, the Central American bureau chief of the Miami Herald, once said that at the Times, Podhoretz “constantly complained that his brilliance wasn’t appreciated.”

    Podhoretz is emphatic in his defense of Israel in its conflicts with its Arab neighbors. When pundit Pat Buchanan called Israel’s actions in the 2006 Lebanon War “un-Christian”, Podhoretz wrote: “You want to know what anti-Semitism is? When Pat Buchanan calls Israel’s military action ‘un-Christian.’ That’s anti-Semitism.”

    Podhoretz has supported the Iraq War from its inception until the present. In his book, Bush Country, he wrote, “The natural terrorist hunger to acquire WMDs, and Saddam Hussein’s desire to humiliate the United States, combined to make Iraq a new kind of threat to America and the world.” In a July 25, 2006 column for the New York Post that discussed the Israel-Lebanon conflict, Podhoretz advocated a more Machiavellian policy in Iraq, writing: “What if the tactical mistake we made in Iraq was that we didn’t kill enough Sunnis in the early going to intimidate them and make them so afraid of us they would go along with anything? Wasn’t the survival of Sunni men between the ages of 15 and 35 the reason there was an insurgency and the basic cause of the sectarian violence now?”

  44. Can the (((MSM))) propaganda of butt-kicking you-go-girls who destroy Evil White Men by the sheer force carry over into reality?

    Ask Heather Heyer!

  45. A filth? That’s not correct. It’s like calling you “a garbage.”

    Does he mean a *piece* of filth? That would make more sense.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    A filth? That’s not correct. It’s like calling you “a garbage.”

    Does he mean a *piece* of filth? That would make more sense.
     
    JPod is an editor. He can't be bothered with such trivia.
  46. It’s non sequitur. I gather you got the better of him in intramural exchanges of memoranda at NR.

    I cannot figure why his mother (who is a capable essayist) and father (who could assemble an interesting magazine) did not dissuade him from a career in opinion journalism. He produces satisfactory book reviews, but is otherwise mediocre. He’s a graduate of the University of Chicago, so a deficit of brains per se is not his problem; he just lacks the necessary verbal agility.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    He has the verbal agility when he doesn't need it.

    What he lacks is character.
  47. So far as I understand and Infogalactic confirms, /pol/ is the politically-incorrect board on 4 chan and 8 chan. I am not signed into either but browse/read there. I believe they’re the ones who found Shia LaBeouf’s “You Shall Not Divide Us” each time he moved it. They’re also the source of a huge number of memes and recently weaponized antifa’s “punch a nazi” arguments with memes showing beaten/bleeding White women and children.

    Chateau Heartiste is part of the men’s rights movement and primarily focuses on “game,” or how to understand women’s actions and motivations and use such understanding to improve one’s sexual market value and bed whom one chooses. A strong secondary theme is alt-right/pro-West/pro-Trump issues of the day. Again, I don’t comment there (can’t recall my WordPress log-in and feel it would not be meet for me to do so). I have read there for some months now, and frequently find it funny and informative – both politically and socially. I’ve encouraged my older son to read there as well.

    The meme is a short way down the comment thread to the post on the original photo called “Weapons of Mass Triggering” dated 29 August. It was shared by “Punished Ebola” who indicated it was from /pol/. Here’s a link to that post of the photo.

  48. In the early days of NRO, I really enjoyed the Corner, which at that time was sort of a conservative proto-twitter. It had a heady, fun, friendly vibe. Then they let JPod in, and all of a sudden the whole thing went to hell as he would have these bizarre, unprovoked rage attacks. It was really odd.

    • Replies: @Uncle Remus
    If you were as reprllent a load of s__t as Little Poddy has been all his life, you too would be subject to
    sudden rages.
  49. What’s /pol/? I see that a lot but I don’t know what it is.

    Never been to /pol/?

    Uh oh. I’m afraid that Steve is about to undergo some very dramatic changes.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    If Steve can be infected, we will
    achieve The Man in the High Tower within about 6 months.
    , @Hodag
    But /pol/ is a board of peace!
  50. I think what he’s trying to say is, you’re a wasically wabbit!

  51. @Shouting Thomas
    People sure do get riled up on social media, don't they?

    I'm hard pressed to understand how exactly that bit got Podhoretz so excited.

    Denunciation is all the rage.

    “I’m hard pressed to understand how exactly that bit got Podhoretz so excited”

    Perhaps the echo effect of “Weinstein?”

    I’d ask what if Steve picked a non-echoey Hollywood producer name, but I can’t think of one right now.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The Weinsteins are synonymous with Oscarbait movies. Nobody else is close to them. I couldn't have chosen anybody else without confusing readers. It would be like referencing somebody other than Meryl Streep as an Oscar-honored actress.
    , @Forbes
    Well, the better known Weinstein brother is Harvey--so the choice makes complete sense in many ways.

    I bet few can name the other brother...
  52. @Buzz Mohawk
    Give the guy a break.

    Photoshop hasn't been invented yet in his universe. He lives in another time, and he thinks the picture is real:

    "I have great difficulty supporting a blanket policy of immigration restriction because of what happened to the Jewish people after 1924 and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in."
    -- John Podheretz
     

    “because of what happened to the Jewish people after 1924”

    He means 18 years after 1924.

    I’d say we probably shouldn’t base our opinions of a big, long-term national policy because of how it affected a share of the Family of Man 80 years ago. I’d also ask who could project that such a group would be genocided that far in the future? In another part of the world, no less. And why our national policy should be concerned with what happens way the heck in Central and Eastern Europe, anyway?

    Buuuut, the silliest part is thinking a democracy (or country with the pretense of democracy, and back then maybe the progressive movement hadn’t killed it yet)can plan ahead nearly an entire generation. Hardy-har-har.

  53. @guest
    "I'm hard pressed to understand how exactly that bit got Podhoretz so excited"

    Perhaps the echo effect of "Weinstein?"

    I'd ask what if Steve picked a non-echoey Hollywood producer name, but I can't think of one right now.

    The Weinsteins are synonymous with Oscarbait movies. Nobody else is close to them. I couldn’t have chosen anybody else without confusing readers. It would be like referencing somebody other than Meryl Streep as an Oscar-honored actress.

    • Replies: @guest
    I agree, and it was a perfectly apposite choice.

    Just as if you were to pick a name for the director of big, dumb CGI-fest action movies that no one can make visual sense of, it would have to be Michael Bay. (Whose name may or may not echo. I'm not sure. I think he was adopted.)
  54. @Buzz Mohawk
    Give the guy a break.

    Photoshop hasn't been invented yet in his universe. He lives in another time, and he thinks the picture is real:

    "I have great difficulty supporting a blanket policy of immigration restriction because of what happened to the Jewish people after 1924 and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in."
    -- John Podheretz
     

    “and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in”

    Ah, the turned-away ships.

    What will be the excuse for tearing down statues of FDR? Red-lining or the Ship of Fools…I mean, Jewish Refugee Ship?

    Blacks trump everyone, obviously. But the Holocaust Industry is strong. Don’t count it out. Especially against indirect real estate discrimination, which is boring.

    • Replies: @Broski
    "Blacks trump everyone, obviously. But the Holocaust Industry is strong. Don’t count it out. Especially against indirect real estate discrimination, which is boring."

    The JPods only pretend blacks trump everyone. In America, due to American history, blacks have been the most effective cudgel with which to beat the goyim. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson know what blacks are worth to Mr. Pod after the cudgel stops working.

    It's not a coincidence that the NAACP was run by Jews until a Black Power-related revolt in the '70s.
  55. • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    I looked for 4chan/pol/ yesterday using duckduckgo, but was unable to find it. I found 8chan/pol/. Thanks.
  56. @Steve Sailer
    The Weinsteins are synonymous with Oscarbait movies. Nobody else is close to them. I couldn't have chosen anybody else without confusing readers. It would be like referencing somebody other than Meryl Streep as an Oscar-honored actress.

    I agree, and it was a perfectly apposite choice.

    Just as if you were to pick a name for the director of big, dumb CGI-fest action movies that no one can make visual sense of, it would have to be Michael Bay. (Whose name may or may not echo. I’m not sure. I think he was adopted.)

    • Replies: @FPD72
    I thought that Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon were good films. I haven't seen Patriot Day. I found Deepwater Horizon to be fairly accurate technically, although some probable contributing causes of the blowout were left out for the sake of brevity.
  57. @Jack D
    It's kind of hard to tell from the photoshop, especially if you haven't seen the original photo.

    In the original, a big strong white guy is carrying a small Latino looking woman with a baby out of the flood.

    It the photo shop, it's vice versa.

    Her last name looks Cambodian to me or Southeast Asian anyway. She looks Southeast Asian as well.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    Her name is Catherine Pham which is a Vietnamese name
  58. @Mikey Darmody
    Podhoretz, also known as J.P. Normans-son, either believes:

    1. our Steve is secretly a Daily-Stormer-reading NatSoc, sharpening his bayonet as he awaits the Day of the Rope.

    -or-

    2. Steve's mild-mannered civic nationalism is "a loathsome, reprllent filth" tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.

    I am honestly unsure which it is. In any case, it's probably safe to say that Twitter accounts with blue checkmarks and parentheses are some of the biggest recruiting tools that the Alt Right has.

    JPod doesn’t believe a damn thing.

    He knows what’s left of his power depends on leveraging SWPL/Jewish paranoia/status anxiety to keep more capable writers like Sailer in the ghetto on trumped up charges pour enourager les autres.

  59. @Art Deco
    It's non sequitur. I gather you got the better of him in intramural exchanges of memoranda at NR.

    I cannot figure why his mother (who is a capable essayist) and father (who could assemble an interesting magazine) did not dissuade him from a career in opinion journalism. He produces satisfactory book reviews, but is otherwise mediocre. He's a graduate of the University of Chicago, so a deficit of brains per se is not his problem; he just lacks the necessary verbal agility.

    He has the verbal agility when he doesn’t need it.

    What he lacks is character.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    Maybe he should take character lessons from David Brooks
    , @Art Deco
    What he lacks is character.

    I don't know that he cheats on his wife or cheats on his taxes. I've no reason to believe he's ever advocated anything he didn't actually believe, although the opinion-monger trade does induce people to play particular stereotyped roles. He does have a sense of himself and his social circle that tends to inflate their importance and sophistication. (See the obituary of his sister in which he chuffers about how accomplished his brother-in-law was at age 36; his brother-in-law was a lawyer with a fund of liberal education who had certain connections and certain modest administrative talents; he wasn't any more accomplished than a mid-level business executive of a sort you can find in any small city in America).

    Whatever dynamic which prevailed between JP and his parents after 1982 was the wrong one. He never acquired any post-baccalaureate schooling or worked in a trade for which you could say he was suitable. Instead, he wrote mediocre newspaper columns for the New York Post, ate too much, dressed badly, married very late in life, had no children until he was nearly 40, and ended up taking over the dregs of his father's magazine when the American Jewish Committee and his father's puppy dog Neil Kozodoy decided they were done with it. He seems like a character who might be skewered or pitied in a short story by Joan Didion or John Updike.
  60. @guest
    A filth? That's not correct. It's like calling you "a garbage."

    Does he mean a *piece* of filth? That would make more sense.

    A filth? That’s not correct. It’s like calling you “a garbage.”

    Does he mean a *piece* of filth? That would make more sense.

    JPod is an editor. He can’t be bothered with such trivia.

  61. You know they (people like Podhoretz) are running out of ammunition when they start talking like that.

    Talent runs in families I suppose but it regresses toward the mean. Thus Podhoretz the younger is less gifted than his father and Bill Kristol is not even in the same league as his mother and father. You would think they could have at least handed down to their son some good common civil sense: https://goo.gl/Lr9D5f

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Talent runs in families I suppose but it regresses toward the mean. Thus Podhoretz the younger is less gifted than his father and Bill Kristol is not even in the same league as his mother and father. Y

    Wm. Kristol has a Harvard doctorate and is much more extensively educated than his father was. His father was an editor, not an exceptional producer of original content. Kristol eschewed building the academic career his mother did for whatever reason, but it's a stretch to say he was not suitable for one. The Decter-Podhoretz children do seem a cut below the previous generation intellectually, albeit in an uneven sort of way. That's not true of Wm. Kristol.
  62. Wow, you are “a…scum” and “a…filth” !

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/09/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies.html

    In case anyone was wondering, J.P. Normanson (as he was known at the Washington Times) makes close to half a million dollars, base salary, for basically, as best I can tell, shitposting on Twitter all day.

    From “Making It” to hereditary madeness:

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/725493261322743809

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    I'm glad you mentioned that. To understand the tangled history of the feud between Conservatism Inc. and the Dissident Right, it helps to see just how hysterically the likes of JPod react to even the most mild challenges to the Proposition Nation:

    7/11/2005 - JPod triggered by Derb's criticism of birthright citizenship
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/pod-lesser-birthright-pundit/

    7/13/2005 - JPod calls Sailer "a scum"
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/please-keep-attacking-me/

    7/17/2005 - Sailer cites Norman Podhoretz contra JPod
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/podhoretz-junior-vs-steve-sailer

    9/3/2005 - Sailer commits an act of Unauthorized Noticing
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/racial-reality-and-the-new-orleans-nightmare

    9/5/2005 - JPod triggered; early use of "point 'n' sputter"
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies/

    9/7/2005 - Sailer cites Commentary and AEI contra JPod
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/john-podhoretz-averts-his-maidenly/
  63. The tweet wasn’t racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.

    • Replies: @celt darnell
    There's an "obsession with race on this blog"?

    And the entire media, government, Hollywood, academia, sports and corporate worlds have no such "obsession," right?
    , @celt darnell
    There's an "obsession with race on this blog"?

    And the entire media, government, Hollywood, academia, sports and corporate worlds have no such "obsession," right?
    , @Mr. Anon

    The tweet wasn’t racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.
     
    No, Steve doesn't. He has in interest in race because it is an important topic that is seldomly talked discussed honestly in the MSM.
    , @3g4me
    @61 Dmitri: "The tweet wasn’t racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog."

    What is it about "HBD-centric" or "pattern recognition" that you don't understand?
    , @Redman
    Wake up. There is no bigger issue in the MSM than race. It's bigger than sex and money, which means someone important wants us to be discussing it at this point in history.

    On the other hand, maybe that's the point. Is the national race "obsession" merely a creation of the deep state designed to deflect attention from the coming collapse? Hmmm.
  64. @Hosswire

    What’s /pol/? I see that a lot but I don’t know what it is.
     
    Never been to /pol/?

    Uh oh. I'm afraid that Steve is about to undergo some very dramatic changes.

    If Steve can be infected, we will
    achieve The Man in the High Tower within about 6 months.

    • Replies: @Sandmich
    I thought that The Man in the High, ahem, Castle was somewhat ridiculous at first, but I've wised up and was thinking what kind of book Steve could put together so that he can achieve that elite status. "Why surly someone who had written such an injurious piece of truth is hiding behind twenty foot walls lined with concertina wire!"

    I dunno, maybe he already has.
  65. >what’s /pol/?

    Holy shit, Steve. It’s just the effervescing hivemind of bright but disaffected white Millenials that got Trump elected. No big.

  66. @Achilles
    Projection.

    Meanwhile, the source of the evil juju emanations has been found: Former WaPo Religion columnist Sally Quinn

    Says she's killed or ruined three people through demonic hexes and it's all she can do to restrain herself from placing a hex on Donald Trump.

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/27/sally-quinn-next-act-finding-magic/

    “a Loathsome, Reprllent Racist Filth”

    ………….and what’s worse – a guy pathologically obsessed with golf courses and counting and numbering everything.

    Podhoretz twitters like a girl, a social justice warrior girl.

    And like a paranoid, vindictive and highly ethnocentric Jew.

    Podhoretz has always been a dunderhead, a popinjay and a craven, malodorous scoundrel who traffics and balderdash and flapdoodle.

    To him I say, feh!

    • Replies: @Danindc
    Could definitely see him in Bolshevik Russia carrying out some harsh punishments. He's a psycho.
  67. @Mikey Darmody
    Podhoretz, also known as J.P. Normans-son, either believes:

    1. our Steve is secretly a Daily-Stormer-reading NatSoc, sharpening his bayonet as he awaits the Day of the Rope.

    -or-

    2. Steve's mild-mannered civic nationalism is "a loathsome, reprllent filth" tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.

    I am honestly unsure which it is. In any case, it's probably safe to say that Twitter accounts with blue checkmarks and parentheses are some of the biggest recruiting tools that the Alt Right has.

    2. Steve’s mild-mannered civic nationalism is “a loathsome, reprllent filth” tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.

    I thought intermarriage with Gentiles was considered Holocaust, Part II. Perhaps civic nationalism is constantly undermined because it is seen as creating favorable conditions for intermarriage.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Service guarantees Sailership!

    Enlist now!

    --> WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE? <--
    , @Broski
    "I thought intermarriage with Gentiles was considered Holocaust, Part II."

    No, that's the Silent Holocaust. Lots of Holocausts to keep track of.
    , @Guy de Champlagne
    Holocaust part 2 is the second holocaust that jewish people think is inevitable as long as long as there are white gentile majorities anywhere on earth.
  68. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/103992/fair-fair-john-podhoretz

    There is nothing more that needs to be said about this man, ever.

    • Replies: @Broski
    Whoa. What a sociopath.
    , @guest
    I'm pretty sure the Geneva Convention says--if I'm thinking of the right one--you can kill people who take up arms as enemy combatants without wearing identifying uniforms. Not people who resemble those who have taken up arms. Not any time you want, as if the conflict extends indefinitely at your discretion. In an entirely different country.

    Or is Norway the same as Germany to John because all those whitebread European country look the same?

    By the way, I can understand hiding among civilians as an excuse for civilian casualties. Not as an excuse for accidentally assassinating the wrong person, when the intended target wasn't even there. Otherwise, you're basically saying, "Because you won't surrender to us immediately for torture and death, we can kill any innocent person we want, so long as they prima facie resemble you. In our spies/killers' subjective perception."

  69. jpod clown.

    over here:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks for that memory of Joni, Newrouter. It's not a memory for me of the time she sang this, more of when I listened to this album "Blue" in the 1990's. She had a great voice, and some good melodies, but why did she have to always write the lyrics first and then try, come hell or high water, to fit them all into whatever tune she had?

    What this song has to do with the post, I have no earthly idea, but I'd be glad if you could explain it.
  70. @Achilles
    Projection.

    Meanwhile, the source of the evil juju emanations has been found: Former WaPo Religion columnist Sally Quinn

    Says she's killed or ruined three people through demonic hexes and it's all she can do to restrain herself from placing a hex on Donald Trump.

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/27/sally-quinn-next-act-finding-magic/

    She actually admits to believing in and practicing witchcraft. This is allegedly one of our society’s intellectual and cultural elites.

    Christ, we’re in worse shape than I thought…

    • Replies: @Achilles
    In light of the potential threat to POTUS, perhaps agents of the Voodoo Division of the Secret Service should pay a visit to Sally Quinn ...
    , @Anonymous
    Send her to Saudi Arabia. They know how to deal with sorcerers.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    There's only one way to settle this ...
    for today's experiment, children, we're going to need
    * one Quinn (Zoe, Sally; IDGAF)
    * one steelyard, calibrated in long tons
    * one healthy duck
    , @TWS
    There's no such thing as spirit cooking. How could you even suggest that?
  71. @Opinionator
    2. Steve’s mild-mannered civic nationalism is “a loathsome, reprllent filth” tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.

    I thought intermarriage with Gentiles was considered Holocaust, Part II. Perhaps civic nationalism is constantly undermined because it is seen as creating favorable conditions for intermarriage.

    Service guarantees Sailership!

    Enlist now!

    –> WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE? <–

    • LOL: fish
  72. LULZ the shirtless white guy wearing CNN glasses is sporting the perfect smirk. Is he from some 80s flick?

    • Replies: @guest
    That looks like Tobey Macguire. I'm guessing from Spider-Man, when he realizes he no longer needs corrective eyewear.
  73. What’s /pol/? I see that a lot but I don’t know what it is.

    To expand on what other commenters have mentioned, /pol/ is the politics board of 4chan (hence the white nationalism/anime connection), and it’s relevant because it’s basically where the alt-right was born. It’s where bored young white men (like my friends in high school) went to waste time online by talking anonymously about politics, without fear that “controversial” opinions would get censored. (I’ve seen Steve very favorably referenced a few times there, incidentally.)

  74. Man this is as good as the pepe frog memes from the campaign…

    Absolutely devastating. That’s while fool JPod was triggered. He recognizes the power of this image to really hurt CNN. His response was to DO SOMETHING.

  75. @Anonymous
    Steve:

    Judging by JPpd's twitter feed, you have an Army of reinforcements coming to your defense.

    Indeed. The replies were awesome.

  76. It was not the Weinsteins, it was the picture that provoked Jpod-rage. As opposed to roid rage.

    I think it was the ZMAN Blog that just today observed that most of the elite really does believe that the masses of White Americans are racist bigot Nazis wanting to kill innocent people of color. And that only by controlling and suppressing every bit of negative information about non-Whites and constantly showing negative pictures of Whites can another Holocaust be avoided.

    They really, really believe this. This is, no joke, the heartfelt belief of EVERY White woman in my new gig, no joke its the main topic of discussion. And it shows up in EVERY Hollywood movie or TV show. Its held by people as diverse as Angela Merkel, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Brie Larson. An East German ex Stasi spy turned machiavellian low rent pol, a Mormon hereditary big shot, a Protestant Anglo Hereditary big shot, a manly man of muy macho-ness from South Carolina, and an actress and niece of a comic book writer/creator.

    This is the CORE BELIEF of our White elite. They really HATE HATE HATE ordinary Whites, and everything about them. Even though we have more fun. Going bass fishing on a boat beats by a mile attending some over-priced trendy gallery and sipping bad wine while some gay guy flounces about.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    Going bass fishing on a boat beats by a mile attending some over-priced trendy gallery and sipping bad wine while some gay guy flounces about.
     
    Maybe. But bass fishing is still pretty poor entertainment compared to sailing in the Adriatic or skiing in the Alps, or even hiking in the white mountains. For that matter a well performed play or even a good book is better than bass fishing.
  77. The Asian woman in the background is a great throwaway

  78. @Shouting Thomas
    People sure do get riled up on social media, don't they?

    I'm hard pressed to understand how exactly that bit got Podhoretz so excited.

    Denunciation is all the rage.

    “Denunciation is all the rage.”

    Kevin MacDonald calls it the Culture of Critique for a reason.

  79. John Podhoretz, Hereditary Editor of Commentary, seems a tad worked up over my tweeting out an amusingly Photoshopped retconning of the now-classic Houston rescue picture, calling me “a loathsome, reprllent racist filth.”

    I must say, Steve Sailer must be the single most Deplorable man in the world. (Or at least the world of American journalism.) I can just imagine Matt Yglesias, Bret Stephens or Noah Smith being asked about Steve and sputtering “Steve Sailer? Wow…just wow…that guy is truly… deplorable.”

    A prophet is without honor in his own country, as they say. I think I speak for a lot of iSteve readers when I say, keep up the great work!

    • Agree: Bubba, Peter Johnson
  80. @Dmitry134564
    The tweet wasn't racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.

    There’s an “obsession with race on this blog”?

    And the entire media, government, Hollywood, academia, sports and corporate worlds have no such “obsession,” right?

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Has he ever heard of "black twitter" ???
    , @Dmitry134564
    The fact American culture is obsessed with race, doesn't mean you should be obsessed with race. It can be interesting to talk about from time to time, but dedicating your life and career to race issues is a superficial waste of time, regardless if you are on the left or right on this subject - since race itself is such a superficial issue.
  81. /pol/ and 4chan in general are the underground part of the internet that has lots of influence, but not many people know about it. Memes like Pepe and anime girls wearing MAGA hats started there and then spread. Before Anonymous became a joke, it was more or less based on 4chan because the default is that posters are totally anonymous. Steve is somewhat well known there and his name pops up occasionally in IQ threads. The African population explosion graphs got passed around a good bit a few months ago.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    A view from the self-proclaimed arsehole of the internet:

    No. For starters, 4chan isn't /pol/. There are lefties all over this site. /tv/ and /v/ might have some crossover with /pol/, but the other boards hate /pol/. I accidentally triggered someone on /tg/ once with Pepe; they started screaming and ran away. Secondly, normies don't give a shit about 4chan. When normies think of 4chan, they think of /b/, which they imagine as the bottom of the Internet. Normies have picked up meme culture, but their conception of it is a low resolution derivative. The two big differences being that they only really think of memes as image macros, not words, phrases, image templates, wordless images, etc. The other difference is they don't see memes as an anonymous creation that becomes adopted by the collective, but instead as an individual's original contribution and the popularity of it being unimportant. I'm sure we've all heard someone say, "Did you see the meme I made," or something along those lines from a family member or coworker on Facebook. Thirdly, I'm pretty sure most people are turning conservative from the boom in right wing political commentators on YouTube, not /pol/.
     
    No mention of ∞ . Probably for the best. Although if screaming and running away crying is your thing, well ...
  82. @Achilles
    This version is on Reddit:
    https://i.redd.it/ov3e454hw6jz.jpg

    There shoule be Russians opening the floodgates in the background, while Nazis look on.

  83. @Dmitry134564
    The tweet wasn't racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.

    There’s an “obsession with race on this blog”?

    And the entire media, government, Hollywood, academia, sports and corporate worlds have no such “obsession,” right?

  84. I believe the term is “triggered.”

    (No, I’m not being racist)

  85. @guest
    "and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in"

    Ah, the turned-away ships.

    What will be the excuse for tearing down statues of FDR? Red-lining or the Ship of Fools...I mean, Jewish Refugee Ship?

    Blacks trump everyone, obviously. But the Holocaust Industry is strong. Don't count it out. Especially against indirect real estate discrimination, which is boring.

    “Blacks trump everyone, obviously. But the Holocaust Industry is strong. Don’t count it out. Especially against indirect real estate discrimination, which is boring.”

    The JPods only pretend blacks trump everyone. In America, due to American history, blacks have been the most effective cudgel with which to beat the goyim. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson know what blacks are worth to Mr. Pod after the cudgel stops working.

    It’s not a coincidence that the NAACP was run by Jews until a Black Power-related revolt in the ’70s.

  86. @Opinionator
    2. Steve’s mild-mannered civic nationalism is “a loathsome, reprllent filth” tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.

    I thought intermarriage with Gentiles was considered Holocaust, Part II. Perhaps civic nationalism is constantly undermined because it is seen as creating favorable conditions for intermarriage.

    “I thought intermarriage with Gentiles was considered Holocaust, Part II.”

    No, that’s the Silent Holocaust. Lots of Holocausts to keep track of.

  87. @Garrett
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/103992/fair-fair-john-podhoretz

    There is nothing more that needs to be said about this man, ever.

    Whoa. What a sociopath.

  88. Jones on Beck again.

  89. @Garrett
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/103992/fair-fair-john-podhoretz

    There is nothing more that needs to be said about this man, ever.

    I’m pretty sure the Geneva Convention says–if I’m thinking of the right one–you can kill people who take up arms as enemy combatants without wearing identifying uniforms. Not people who resemble those who have taken up arms. Not any time you want, as if the conflict extends indefinitely at your discretion. In an entirely different country.

    Or is Norway the same as Germany to John because all those whitebread European country look the same?

    By the way, I can understand hiding among civilians as an excuse for civilian casualties. Not as an excuse for accidentally assassinating the wrong person, when the intended target wasn’t even there. Otherwise, you’re basically saying, “Because you won’t surrender to us immediately for torture and death, we can kill any innocent person we want, so long as they prima facie resemble you. In our spies/killers’ subjective perception.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Podhoretz's argument about why it was the fault of the Palestinians that Mossad assassinated by mistake a Palestinian waiter in Norway is like saying it's the fault of black people that the LAPD, when hunting frantically for black rogue cop Chris Dorner, shot up those two Mexican ladies delivering newspapers.
  90. @celt darnell
    There's an "obsession with race on this blog"?

    And the entire media, government, Hollywood, academia, sports and corporate worlds have no such "obsession," right?

    Has he ever heard of “black twitter” ???

  91. @celt darnell
    She actually admits to believing in and practicing witchcraft. This is allegedly one of our society's intellectual and cultural elites.

    Christ, we're in worse shape than I thought...

    In light of the potential threat to POTUS, perhaps agents of the Voodoo Division of the Secret Service should pay a visit to Sally Quinn …

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    BTW, if anyone can find an on-line version of Clay Felker's epic takedown of Sally Quinn in 1973 New York magazine, please post a link.
  92. J. Podhoretz has been envious and seething about Steve’s IQ and preternatural ability to notice.

  93. @Anonymous
    LULZ the shirtless white guy wearing CNN glasses is sporting the perfect smirk. Is he from some 80s flick?

    That looks like Tobey Macguire. I’m guessing from Spider-Man, when he realizes he no longer needs corrective eyewear.

  94. @guest
    I'm pretty sure the Geneva Convention says--if I'm thinking of the right one--you can kill people who take up arms as enemy combatants without wearing identifying uniforms. Not people who resemble those who have taken up arms. Not any time you want, as if the conflict extends indefinitely at your discretion. In an entirely different country.

    Or is Norway the same as Germany to John because all those whitebread European country look the same?

    By the way, I can understand hiding among civilians as an excuse for civilian casualties. Not as an excuse for accidentally assassinating the wrong person, when the intended target wasn't even there. Otherwise, you're basically saying, "Because you won't surrender to us immediately for torture and death, we can kill any innocent person we want, so long as they prima facie resemble you. In our spies/killers' subjective perception."

    Podhoretz’s argument about why it was the fault of the Palestinians that Mossad assassinated by mistake a Palestinian waiter in Norway is like saying it’s the fault of black people that the LAPD, when hunting frantically for black rogue cop Chris Dorner, shot up those two Mexican ladies delivering newspapers.

  95. @The Man From J.A.M.E.S.
    /pol/ is the politics board on 4chan. It followed the example of the netoyo from Japan's 2ch (a site launched in Conway, Arkansas!) who were notorious as anonymous online ultranationalists who blame Koreans for all of the nation's ills, with Jews swapped in as villains instead. It's been the breeding ground for lots of memes, of which cuck/cuckservative is probably the most famous right now. The insult took off sleuths discovered site owner Christopher 'moot' Poole's gawker-employed girlfriend was cheating on him during gamergate.

    Why “were notorious”? Japanese 2ch is going strong 18 years after its foundation, as full of netouyo as ever.

  96. Podhoretz is no different than the anti-1st Amendment ADL censors – he has no sense of humor.

  97. @celt darnell
    She actually admits to believing in and practicing witchcraft. This is allegedly one of our society's intellectual and cultural elites.

    Christ, we're in worse shape than I thought...

    Send her to Saudi Arabia. They know how to deal with sorcerers.

  98. S.S. is accused of “naming the producer”. That tweet was sent out of love for oppressed Hollywood producers to let them and their struggling families and friends know they are under attack by this blog in this anti-hollywood Trump era.

  99. @Opinionator
    2. Steve’s mild-mannered civic nationalism is “a loathsome, reprllent filth” tantamount to the Holocaust, Part II.

    I thought intermarriage with Gentiles was considered Holocaust, Part II. Perhaps civic nationalism is constantly undermined because it is seen as creating favorable conditions for intermarriage.

    Holocaust part 2 is the second holocaust that jewish people think is inevitable as long as long as there are white gentile majorities anywhere on earth.

  100. @Desiderius
    He has the verbal agility when he doesn't need it.

    What he lacks is character.

    Maybe he should take character lessons from David Brooks

    • LOL: Broski
  101. @RudyM
    Her last name looks Cambodian to me or Southeast Asian anyway. She looks Southeast Asian as well.

    Her name is Catherine Pham which is a Vietnamese name

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Photo of Aiden and Catherine Pham's rescue becomes symbol of Harvey
    Newsday · 3 days ago

    In the photo, little Aiden Pham — 13 months old and swaddled in a blanket — nestles asleep in his mother's arms, even as floodwaters from Tropical Storm Harvey surge around them. Someday, no …

    Photo of mother and baby’s rescue becomes symbol of storm
    NBC4 Columbus · 3 days ago

    CORRECTS FROM CONNIE TO CATHERINE - Houston Police SWAT officer Daryl Hudeck carries Catherine Pham and her 13-month-old son Aiden after rescuing them …
  102. Regarding /pol/

    There is no need to attribute content beyond saying it comes from /pol/

    The board is anonymous by design. Posters do not want recognition for their content.

    It’s a good idea to correctly note whether it came from 4chan pol or 8chan pol

    But that’s it.

    What’s funny about this to me is that J-pod doesn’t realize he did you a favor with this tweet. And the fact that a magazine editor who makes 400k per year can’t even grammar.

    • Replies: @tamako
    I was about to go even further and tell you to note exactly which imageboard these come from, but then I realized that 4chan and 8chan pretty much have a duopoly on original /pol/ content.
  103. Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Is he objecting to the joke about how Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming “diversity” into every story, no matter how out of place it is? I thought that the right — the WHOLE right, from the craziest radicals to the most cowardly cucks — pretty much universally agreed this was stupid.

    Or maybe JPod sees “Weinstein” and it causes his Jew-baiting alarm to immediately go off. Sigh. If that’s what he’s worried about, let me assure him it went right over the heads of about 99 percent of Gentiles. The Jewish angle on Steve’s comment didn’t even register with me until JPod got his undies in a wad over it.

    Hey, John, it’s not always about the Jews. The typical Gentile doesn’t see “Weinsteins” and think “Joooooooos!” They see it and think, “those are the annoying guys who are always trying to suck up to Oscar voters.” Ethnicity and religion never enter into it.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    May have to do with Weinstein being such a strikingly Jewish name
    , @WR
    Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming “diversity” into every story...

    Exactly, that was the main point of the joke. The rewriting of actual history into diversistory. I am pretty sure that the author of the meme was poking fun at the probable reversal of genders in a Hollywood movie. He was not thinking in terms of White/Asian or a member of the tribe. Neither was Steve. It was JPod who injected race into the meme. He deserves the backlash here and on Twitter. This is one of the reasons why I hate political correctness so much. It wants to eliminate harmless, witty humor such as the one found in this meme.
    , @Art Deco
    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    He has a history of this sort of thing with the moderator. Nothing's offensive at all. He's just trash-talking.
    , @MarcB.
    I was also was trying to figure out at which level this bothered him. He's likely still got a bug up his chimney over Trump's successful use of the Sailer Strategy, and this was just a chance to take a quick pot-shot.
    , @iffen
    Why doesn't someone just ask him?
    , @iffen
    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Good question. Why doesn't someone just ask him? Is there a way to ask him?
  104. @celt darnell
    She actually admits to believing in and practicing witchcraft. This is allegedly one of our society's intellectual and cultural elites.

    Christ, we're in worse shape than I thought...

    There’s only one way to settle this …
    for today’s experiment, children, we’re going to need
    * one Quinn (Zoe, Sally; IDGAF)
    * one steelyard, calibrated in long tons
    * one healthy duck

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    It's a fair cop.
    , @El Dato
    Who will play Sir Bedivere, exposing the logic of it all to the Deplorables?
  105. JPod has been known to notice things himself:

    “Two ideas puzzled me deeply as a child growing up in Brooklyn during the 1930’s in what today would be called an integrated neighborhood. One of them was that all Jews were rich; the other was that all Negroes were persecuted. These ideas had appeared in print; therefore they must be true. My own experience and the evidence of my senses told me they were not true…..”

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

    • Replies: @Gross Terry
    that was NPod, who wasn't an obese moron. Unlike his son.
    , @Broski
    That was JPod's vastly superior father, Norman. Note the article was published in 1963.
    , @guest
    That's the sort of mild Noticing that led to neoconservatism. Some Jews and others (mostly former commies) realized they went a little too far championing the civil rights movement as the be-all, end-all of race politics. Blacks were never going to be the New Jews. (They wouldn't want blacks to be that, anyway, because there's only so much money and power to go around, amiright?)

    Well, that and disgust at dirty hippies. The New Left cracked up the Liberal Consensus, and right when Israel needed our empire to help it fight uppity A-rabs and such.

    The rest of their Noticing was a series of cracks in the liberal facade, many of them from the social sciences (though not biology) to justify carving out their own thing.

    Pod the Younger has nowhere to carve.

  106. @Anonymous
    OT:
    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/tensions-rise-as-chinese-governments-influence-infiltrates-aussie-universities/news-story/e7768b0bb1f5953a7608884527387372

    Chinese students are policing their lecturers according to Chicom policy. It's going to work out real swell when they are 51% of the country.

    Yet another example of how diversity is everything but strength.

  107. @Aristippus
    /pol/ and 4chan in general are the underground part of the internet that has lots of influence, but not many people know about it. Memes like Pepe and anime girls wearing MAGA hats started there and then spread. Before Anonymous became a joke, it was more or less based on 4chan because the default is that posters are totally anonymous. Steve is somewhat well known there and his name pops up occasionally in IQ threads. The African population explosion graphs got passed around a good bit a few months ago.

    A view from the self-proclaimed arsehole of the internet:

    No. For starters, 4chan isn’t /pol/. There are lefties all over this site. /tv/ and /v/ might have some crossover with /pol/, but the other boards hate /pol/. I accidentally triggered someone on /tg/ once with Pepe; they started screaming and ran away. Secondly, normies don’t give a shit about 4chan. When normies think of 4chan, they think of /b/, which they imagine as the bottom of the Internet. Normies have picked up meme culture, but their conception of it is a low resolution derivative. The two big differences being that they only really think of memes as image macros, not words, phrases, image templates, wordless images, etc. The other difference is they don’t see memes as an anonymous creation that becomes adopted by the collective, but instead as an individual’s original contribution and the popularity of it being unimportant. I’m sure we’ve all heard someone say, “Did you see the meme I made,” or something along those lines from a family member or coworker on Facebook. Thirdly, I’m pretty sure most people are turning conservative from the boom in right wing political commentators on YouTube, not /pol/.

    No mention of ∞ . Probably for the best. Although if screaming and running away crying is your thing, well …

  108. Shame on Podhoretz

    But I must say, moments like this are clarifying. What a nasty little comment.

    He continues to marginalize himself.

    • Replies: @Broski
    He, Stephens, and Kristol have been draping themselves in glory this year.
  109. @jim jones
    Her name is Catherine Pham which is a Vietnamese name

    Photo of Aiden and Catherine Pham’s rescue becomes symbol of Harvey
    Newsday · 3 days ago

    In the photo, little Aiden Pham — 13 months old and swaddled in a blanket — nestles asleep in his mother’s arms, even as floodwaters from Tropical Storm Harvey surge around them. Someday, no …

    Photo of mother and baby’s rescue becomes symbol of storm
    NBC4 Columbus · 3 days ago

    CORRECTS FROM CONNIE TO CATHERINE – Houston Police SWAT officer Daryl Hudeck carries Catherine Pham and her 13-month-old son Aiden after rescuing them …

  110. Admit it, it’s personal between Podhoretz and you! You’ve repeatedly made fun of him here, which goes to show he reads your “racist” blog.

  111. @Anonymous
    Steve:

    Judging by JPpd's twitter feed, you have an Army of reinforcements coming to your defense.

    Exactly. Not sure if I’ve ever seen comments a blue-checked twitter feed run so badly against that person. That really has to bother that psycho.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    I just checked the replies again. You're right - ouch, that's gotta hurt.

    And someone posted a link to this profile, which frankly just makes him seem really sad and pathetic.

    http://nymag.com/nymag/features/1968/index1.html


    Before his exit, Podhoretz exhibited a certain status anxiety in a more flamboyant way. He complained obsessively when he found out Fred Barnes’s office would be bigger than his. He insisted his secretary have a wall around her office so no one would read his mail. Once, at a meeting, an assistant tried to teach the staff how to transfer calls, and Podhoretz barked, “Bill Kristol and I don’t transfer calls.”

    His “arrogance and egotism had a psychological effect people can’t quite believe,” says one staff member. He treated his favorites well; but others he alienated so much that they will never write for the magazine again.

    Podhoretz blames his reputation on Lisa McCormack, one of the writers at the Washington Times he liked least. But after about twenty interviews with many people who’ve worked with Podhoretz over the years, it’s clear McCormack is just one of the few brave enough to speak. “If you misplaced a comma, he would tell you you were a no-talent dirtball,” McCormack says. “He was even mean to interns.” Among the staff, she has earned the half-joking nickname Elie Wiesel, for speaking up for the victims.

    At the Times, Podhoretz was “permanently frozen in juvenilia,” as one older writer put it -- working with writers sometimes twice his age, and resenting it. When a writer would challenge Podhoretz, he would say, “I’ve worked for six magazines; how many have you worked for?” recall writers on the staff. “There was an enormous gap between the power he had and his view of himself,” says a former colleague.

    One other person spoke on the record. The Miami Herald’s Central American bureau chief, Glenn Garvin, was at first friends with Podhoretz when he was at the Times, but “ultimately his astounding self-centeredness made it difficult to maintain a friendship,” says Garvin. (Podhoretz once talked for twenty minutes at an editorial meeting about when he might get his own private office.) “On the subject of himself, he has no sense of humor,” says Garvin. He recalls seeing a letter Podhoretz wrote to the University of Chicago saying he would no longer support the institution because it had failed to mention the conservative college newspaper he founded in a fund-raising letter. “Almost everybody, friend and foe, thought he was full of himself,” says Garvin. “He continuously complained that his brilliance wasn’t appreciated.”
     
  112. @Rifleman

    "a Loathsome, Reprllent Racist Filth"
     
    .............and what's worse - a guy pathologically obsessed with golf courses and counting and numbering everything.

    Podhoretz twitters like a girl, a social justice warrior girl.

    And like a paranoid, vindictive and highly ethnocentric Jew.

    Podhoretz has always been a dunderhead, a popinjay and a craven, malodorous scoundrel who traffics and balderdash and flapdoodle.

    To him I say, feh!

    Could definitely see him in Bolshevik Russia carrying out some harsh punishments. He’s a psycho.

  113. @Mr. Blank
    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Is he objecting to the joke about how Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming "diversity" into every story, no matter how out of place it is? I thought that the right -- the WHOLE right, from the craziest radicals to the most cowardly cucks -- pretty much universally agreed this was stupid.

    Or maybe JPod sees "Weinstein" and it causes his Jew-baiting alarm to immediately go off. Sigh. If that's what he's worried about, let me assure him it went right over the heads of about 99 percent of Gentiles. The Jewish angle on Steve's comment didn't even register with me until JPod got his undies in a wad over it.

    Hey, John, it's not always about the Jews. The typical Gentile doesn't see "Weinsteins" and think "Joooooooos!" They see it and think, "those are the annoying guys who are always trying to suck up to Oscar voters." Ethnicity and religion never enter into it.

    May have to do with Weinstein being such a strikingly Jewish name

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Mr. Blank covered that point by dismissing it. I disagree with Mr. Blank. Please note, I'm saying I think that was what set Podhoretz off; I'm not agreeing with him.
  114. @Buzz Mohawk
    Give the guy a break.

    Photoshop hasn't been invented yet in his universe. He lives in another time, and he thinks the picture is real:

    "I have great difficulty supporting a blanket policy of immigration restriction because of what happened to the Jewish people after 1924 and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in."
    -- John Podheretz
     

    It’s perpetually 1933 to the likes of John Podhoretz.

  115. @Harry Baldwin
    Don't you think Asian rather than Latino? She'd be fat if she were Latino.

    She looks southeast Asian to me.

  116. @The Man From J.A.M.E.S.
    /pol/ is the politics board on 4chan. It followed the example of the netoyo from Japan's 2ch (a site launched in Conway, Arkansas!) who were notorious as anonymous online ultranationalists who blame Koreans for all of the nation's ills, with Jews swapped in as villains instead. It's been the breeding ground for lots of memes, of which cuck/cuckservative is probably the most famous right now. The insult took off sleuths discovered site owner Christopher 'moot' Poole's gawker-employed girlfriend was cheating on him during gamergate.

    Is 4chan /pol/ still up? I looked for it yesterday, but couldn’t find it. 8chan /pol/ is still up.

    I don’t post on either site, but was just curious to see what they were discussing.

  117. @jim jones
    This is the original post on 4chan:

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/139795805/when-hollywood-makes-a-movie-about-hurricane

    I looked for 4chan/pol/ yesterday using duckduckgo, but was unable to find it. I found 8chan/pol/. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Broski
    For some inexplicable reason I'm still using google, and it's findable there: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    I find knocking the "Strict" setting off the results page in DDG puts the Pit of Belial and its little green leafy flowery Gamergate logo right at the top. For some reason it's concealed from delicate sensibilities, while endchan is allowed to frolic shamelessly in flagrante about six goose-steps below it.
    Having said that, it recently manifests itself unbidden at the top of my search regardless. Is my device now possessed?
    Anyway, don't go there unless for a specific research purpose, like Aeneas following the Sibyl. One could easily lose one's whole life to it, as its wretched and tormented Anon denizens occasionally mourn, and things once seen ... cannot be unseen.
  118. Didn’t Podhoretz Sr write a weird article about how Jews feel physically inadequate around black people so the solution to everyone’s racial anxiety is miscegenation? It really shows how SJWism isn’t an ideology but rather the incoherent articulation of neurosis.

  119. Anonymous [AKA "Jesus_Lizard"] says:

    Agree and Amplify! Well done. Classic Roissy move.

  120. John Podhoretz, Hereditary Editor of Commentary,

    John Podhoretz, 2nd Marquess Commentary or maybe 5th Baronet Neo-Con. I forget how you count neo con heritage. Is Marguess too elevated for Podhoretz? Maybe Kristol is a Marquess. BTW, Marquess and Baronet are male, so I am not being a wise guy.

  121. Does anyone still read crap like Commentary or NR?

    And Steve just might be “repellent” no? How could one tell?

    • Replies: @Broski
    From what I can tell, he's done a lot of attracting over the past 10 years. When he would first get mentions from well known pundits it was a huge deal. Now Ann Coulter retweets several articles a week.
    , @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I quit reading NR after their "Against Trump" issue, and never did read Commentary.
  122. /pol/:

    View post on imgur.com

    The most famous, and popular, is 4chan’s:

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/catalog

    It’s more free-wheeling and tolerant of fun, gets more traffic, probably half the population is non-white, though you wouldn’t think it.

    Less famous and less populated, the more hardcore 8ch(an):

    https://8ch.net/pol/catalog.html

    … ‘nazis’ split off from 4chan over ideology. I mention them because they’re more effective at scheming and autistically putting together photos to dox people.

    People go back and forth, from 8ch for plans, to 4chan to recruit help (mostly). When people want to scheme privately, they’ll open a ‘discord’, a free, all-purpose live communication platform originally developed for gamers.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Pretty awesome. Two websites devoted to redpilling members.
    , @El Dato
    Top kek
  123. John Podhoretz is a lovely human who spreads joy wherever he goes. I had an extremely pleasant encounter with Mr. Podhoretz on Twitter. It made me bust out laughing.

    This Tweet is from 2014:

    The whole thread on Twitter:

    John Podhoretz: Hey, it’s Bush’s fault NY Times…Amazing it took five years for it to become a crisis!

    Charles Pewitt: George W Bush and the Neo-Con shyster rodents pushed mass immigration into the US. Bush is to blame, Poddy.

    John Podhoretz: Please attach a cup to your chin to catch the drool as it drops.

    Charles Pewitt: My people settled and cleared the way for your filth. Poddy, you are an unassimilated, arrogant shyster rodent.

    John Podhoretz: That lobotomy isn’t working very well.

    Charles Pewitt: It was a mistake to allow large numbers of non-European, non-Christians to come to US. Poddy, you are filth.

    John Podhoretz: Your right. Better that the continent be left to in-bred defectives like you.

    Charles Pewitt: Do you think mass immigration since the 1965 Immigration Act has been good for the USA?

    John Podhoretz: If it dilutes your personal vote to the point where it doesn’t matter, given that your IQ is 12, yes.

    Charles Pewitt: Jon Podhoretz is a Neo-Con shyster rodent who pushes mass immigration into the US.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    I almost feel sorry for Podhoretz. It would be interesting to force him to engage in reasoned argument and not let the dialogue default to name calling back and forth.
  124. @guest
    I agree, and it was a perfectly apposite choice.

    Just as if you were to pick a name for the director of big, dumb CGI-fest action movies that no one can make visual sense of, it would have to be Michael Bay. (Whose name may or may not echo. I'm not sure. I think he was adopted.)

    I thought that Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon were good films. I haven’t seen Patriot Day. I found Deepwater Horizon to be fairly accurate technically, although some probable contributing causes of the blowout were left out for the sake of brevity.

    • Replies: @guest
    Those were all directed by Peter Berg, not Michael Bay. Berg is a competent director, also involved with the quality tv series Friday Night Lights.
  125. scuba steve, do you remember this movie?

  126. reprllent

    Whoops, slight case of “lizard people mouth” there.

  127. “a loathsome, repellent filth.”

    Podhoretz’s rhetoric is the verbal equivalent of Antifa throwing feces.

  128. @Hosswire

    What’s /pol/? I see that a lot but I don’t know what it is.
     
    Never been to /pol/?

    Uh oh. I'm afraid that Steve is about to undergo some very dramatic changes.

    But /pol/ is a board of peace!

  129. 1) he’s projecting – people like Podheretz are the biggest racists on the planet

    2) the bad guys have been telling us for 50 years that being a minority sucks – so it makes perfect sense for white people to decide not to become a minority

  130. Isn’t filth uncountable?

    I’d heard they were adept in grammar, at Commentary.

  131. @Dmitry134564
    The tweet wasn't racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.

    The tweet wasn’t racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.

    No, Steve doesn’t. He has in interest in race because it is an important topic that is seldomly talked discussed honestly in the MSM.

    • Replies: @Broski
    Yep. Like most of us, we became racialist when we realized others hate hate hated us (JPod, are you reading this?). We may not be interested in race, but race is interested in us.
  132. More love and joy from John Podhoretz. Poddy says all you need is love:

  133. I missed Podhoritz’s boat entirely, thinking the shot was a commentary on feminism — “girl power”, that sort of thing.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    It was, but Podhoretz went ballistic at the mention of the name "Weinstein."
  134. @celt darnell
    She actually admits to believing in and practicing witchcraft. This is allegedly one of our society's intellectual and cultural elites.

    Christ, we're in worse shape than I thought...

    There’s no such thing as spirit cooking. How could you even suggest that?

  135. There is a history of dehumanizing people by calling them “filth” that you think would make Podhoretz think twice before descending into such rhetoric.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    To think once would be a start...
  136. Anonymous [AKA "Reprllent"] says:

    Speaking of Weinstein Bros, how did you like Wind River? I thought it was the best of 2017 so far (not saying much). Jeremy Renner was outstanding as usual.

  137. Pod the Lesser has to know he’s a joke and an old one at that. He’s like something out of the onion blundering clueless from one outrage in his own mind to another.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    Pod the Lesser, Kristol the Lesser, and Sulzberger the Lesser have certainly fallen short of their paternal forebears...
  138. @Mr. Blank
    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Is he objecting to the joke about how Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming "diversity" into every story, no matter how out of place it is? I thought that the right -- the WHOLE right, from the craziest radicals to the most cowardly cucks -- pretty much universally agreed this was stupid.

    Or maybe JPod sees "Weinstein" and it causes his Jew-baiting alarm to immediately go off. Sigh. If that's what he's worried about, let me assure him it went right over the heads of about 99 percent of Gentiles. The Jewish angle on Steve's comment didn't even register with me until JPod got his undies in a wad over it.

    Hey, John, it's not always about the Jews. The typical Gentile doesn't see "Weinsteins" and think "Joooooooos!" They see it and think, "those are the annoying guys who are always trying to suck up to Oscar voters." Ethnicity and religion never enter into it.

    Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming “diversity” into every story…

    Exactly, that was the main point of the joke. The rewriting of actual history into diversistory. I am pretty sure that the author of the meme was poking fun at the probable reversal of genders in a Hollywood movie. He was not thinking in terms of White/Asian or a member of the tribe. Neither was Steve. It was JPod who injected race into the meme. He deserves the backlash here and on Twitter. This is one of the reasons why I hate political correctness so much. It wants to eliminate harmless, witty humor such as the one found in this meme.

  139. @Whiskey
    It was not the Weinsteins, it was the picture that provoked Jpod-rage. As opposed to roid rage.

    I think it was the ZMAN Blog that just today observed that most of the elite really does believe that the masses of White Americans are racist bigot Nazis wanting to kill innocent people of color. And that only by controlling and suppressing every bit of negative information about non-Whites and constantly showing negative pictures of Whites can another Holocaust be avoided.

    They really, really believe this. This is, no joke, the heartfelt belief of EVERY White woman in my new gig, no joke its the main topic of discussion. And it shows up in EVERY Hollywood movie or TV show. Its held by people as diverse as Angela Merkel, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Brie Larson. An East German ex Stasi spy turned machiavellian low rent pol, a Mormon hereditary big shot, a Protestant Anglo Hereditary big shot, a manly man of muy macho-ness from South Carolina, and an actress and niece of a comic book writer/creator.

    This is the CORE BELIEF of our White elite. They really HATE HATE HATE ordinary Whites, and everything about them. Even though we have more fun. Going bass fishing on a boat beats by a mile attending some over-priced trendy gallery and sipping bad wine while some gay guy flounces about.

    Going bass fishing on a boat beats by a mile attending some over-priced trendy gallery and sipping bad wine while some gay guy flounces about.

    Maybe. But bass fishing is still pretty poor entertainment compared to sailing in the Adriatic or skiing in the Alps, or even hiking in the white mountains. For that matter a well performed play or even a good book is better than bass fishing.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    I disagree.

    If someone knows what they're doing, fishing for smallies or walleye on a great body of water - Lake Erie or Lake St. Clair - can be far more intellectually engaging than a non-fisherman could ever conceive.

    Plus, it's fun and a great excuse to have a few beers with a buddy!

    https://youtu.be/9V34XgSHe4w
  140. @The Man From J.A.M.E.S.
    /pol/ is the politics board on 4chan. It followed the example of the netoyo from Japan's 2ch (a site launched in Conway, Arkansas!) who were notorious as anonymous online ultranationalists who blame Koreans for all of the nation's ills, with Jews swapped in as villains instead. It's been the breeding ground for lots of memes, of which cuck/cuckservative is probably the most famous right now. The insult took off sleuths discovered site owner Christopher 'moot' Poole's gawker-employed girlfriend was cheating on him during gamergate.

    There are other chans besides 4chan (a.k.a. “half-chan”), most notably 8chan (a.k.a. “infinity chan”), all of which have /pol (politics, specifically right-wing politics) forums. The big chans have /leftypol forums as well.

    /pol anons (users) are the leading weaponized autists on the internet(s), specializing in online investigations, doxing, and meme warfare.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    +1 on the significance of their "Weaponized Autism."

    I'm way too old to be able to understand how to access or use /pol/, but their frequently suspended and then frequently re-incarnated Twitter account, "Pol News Network," gives a fascinating sense of what they are up to:

    This is the latest version:

    https://twitter.com/polNewsInfinity
  141. @Dmitry134564
    The tweet wasn't racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.

    @61 Dmitri: “The tweet wasn’t racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.”

    What is it about “HBD-centric” or “pattern recognition” that you don’t understand?

  142. What’s /pol/?

    Weaponized autism, among other things.

  143. Careful, Steve. That toxic, censorious media we’re all sick of looking over our shoulders for (not to mention the cowardly Zionism so indigenous to Conservatism, Inc) can be traced directly to Pudgehoretz Jr, who decided one fine day in the mid-90s that he would destroy David Irving with fire, and salt the earth where he once stood for good measure. Once he’d twisted enough arms to bag his trophy for him, many things in American life were now changed forever. Journalism, free speech/inquiry, and the sanctity of a signed contract among them.

    It’s a true story, and a cautionary one besides – that nobody in journalism has much stomach for recounting. I always find it sourly amusing that any mention, ironic or otherwise, of the cancer of human history – as in today’s squib about the Times writer – never ever seems to trace the metastases to Pudge and his tribe.

  144. I don’t find you loathsome.

  145. @Desiderius
    He has the verbal agility when he doesn't need it.

    What he lacks is character.

    What he lacks is character.

    I don’t know that he cheats on his wife or cheats on his taxes. I’ve no reason to believe he’s ever advocated anything he didn’t actually believe, although the opinion-monger trade does induce people to play particular stereotyped roles. He does have a sense of himself and his social circle that tends to inflate their importance and sophistication. (See the obituary of his sister in which he chuffers about how accomplished his brother-in-law was at age 36; his brother-in-law was a lawyer with a fund of liberal education who had certain connections and certain modest administrative talents; he wasn’t any more accomplished than a mid-level business executive of a sort you can find in any small city in America).

    Whatever dynamic which prevailed between JP and his parents after 1982 was the wrong one. He never acquired any post-baccalaureate schooling or worked in a trade for which you could say he was suitable. Instead, he wrote mediocre newspaper columns for the New York Post, ate too much, dressed badly, married very late in life, had no children until he was nearly 40, and ended up taking over the dregs of his father’s magazine when the American Jewish Committee and his father’s puppy dog Neil Kozodoy decided they were done with it. He seems like a character who might be skewered or pitied in a short story by Joan Didion or John Updike.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Men like his father built up a tremendous reservoir of goodwill. It was that goodwill that made racism and anti-semitism something that respectable people take care to avoid.

    He draws down that reservoir wantonly and meretriciously for the pettiest of reasons.

    You can't lack much more character than that.
    , @Vinteuil
    Wow, Art Deco - that was cruel.

    But fair.
  146. @Achilles
    This version is on Reddit:
    https://i.redd.it/ov3e454hw6jz.jpg

    No pokemon points for the guy in the Photoshopped version? No straight guy would wear those boots!

    Okay….maybe Buzz Bissinger.

  147. @Mr. Blank
    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Is he objecting to the joke about how Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming "diversity" into every story, no matter how out of place it is? I thought that the right -- the WHOLE right, from the craziest radicals to the most cowardly cucks -- pretty much universally agreed this was stupid.

    Or maybe JPod sees "Weinstein" and it causes his Jew-baiting alarm to immediately go off. Sigh. If that's what he's worried about, let me assure him it went right over the heads of about 99 percent of Gentiles. The Jewish angle on Steve's comment didn't even register with me until JPod got his undies in a wad over it.

    Hey, John, it's not always about the Jews. The typical Gentile doesn't see "Weinsteins" and think "Joooooooos!" They see it and think, "those are the annoying guys who are always trying to suck up to Oscar voters." Ethnicity and religion never enter into it.

    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    He has a history of this sort of thing with the moderator. Nothing’s offensive at all. He’s just trash-talking.

  148. @Luke Lea
    You know they (people like Podhoretz) are running out of ammunition when they start talking like that.

    Talent runs in families I suppose but it regresses toward the mean. Thus Podhoretz the younger is less gifted than his father and Bill Kristol is not even in the same league as his mother and father. You would think they could have at least handed down to their son some good common civil sense: https://goo.gl/Lr9D5f

    Talent runs in families I suppose but it regresses toward the mean. Thus Podhoretz the younger is less gifted than his father and Bill Kristol is not even in the same league as his mother and father. Y

    Wm. Kristol has a Harvard doctorate and is much more extensively educated than his father was. His father was an editor, not an exceptional producer of original content. Kristol eschewed building the academic career his mother did for whatever reason, but it’s a stretch to say he was not suitable for one. The Decter-Podhoretz children do seem a cut below the previous generation intellectually, albeit in an uneven sort of way. That’s not true of Wm. Kristol.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    As far as a stand out unique intellectual of his generation, name a few intellectual concepts that William Kristol will be recalled for decades from now. What exactly is he known for, aside from parroting the standard neocon talking points of the day? He was once a speechwriter for Dan Quayle, which isn't saying much since Dan Quayle is barely recalled today among standard conservatives, much less cared about on the Alt. Right. And he's a talking head on FOX News, not really a breeding ground for new innovative ideas. Weekly Standard, same thing.

    What intellectual idea, trope, or theme is he known for creating? I'd say not much of anything. That's why the image of him persists as little more than a neoconservative hack. With each passing decade, that perception appears to be accurate. Irony is, he didn't have to go to Harvard to be a career hack. Sean Hannity proves that every day.

    , @Pat Boyle
    I went to a Republican dinner once where Bill Kristol was the speaker. Very disappointing. An empty suit - doctorate or not.
    , @Broski

    Wm. Kristol has a Harvard doctorate and is much more extensively educated than his father was. His father was an editor, not an exceptional producer of original content. Kristol eschewed building the academic career his mother did for whatever reason, but it’s a stretch to say he was not suitable for one.

     

    Yeah, well, the enemies of truth are right about one thing: there is a lot more to talent than IQ. And if you think a Harvard doctorate means much, you haven't been paying attention lately. That brand is going down faster than the Ford Pinto.
  149. @27 year old
    Regarding /pol/

    There is no need to attribute content beyond saying it comes from /pol/

    The board is anonymous by design. Posters do not want recognition for their content.

    It's a good idea to correctly note whether it came from 4chan pol or 8chan pol

    But that's it.

    What's funny about this to me is that J-pod doesn't realize he did you a favor with this tweet. And the fact that a magazine editor who makes 400k per year can't even grammar.

    I was about to go even further and tell you to note exactly which imageboard these come from, but then I realized that 4chan and 8chan pretty much have a duopoly on original /pol/ content.

  150. @Mr. Blank
    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Is he objecting to the joke about how Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming "diversity" into every story, no matter how out of place it is? I thought that the right -- the WHOLE right, from the craziest radicals to the most cowardly cucks -- pretty much universally agreed this was stupid.

    Or maybe JPod sees "Weinstein" and it causes his Jew-baiting alarm to immediately go off. Sigh. If that's what he's worried about, let me assure him it went right over the heads of about 99 percent of Gentiles. The Jewish angle on Steve's comment didn't even register with me until JPod got his undies in a wad over it.

    Hey, John, it's not always about the Jews. The typical Gentile doesn't see "Weinsteins" and think "Joooooooos!" They see it and think, "those are the annoying guys who are always trying to suck up to Oscar voters." Ethnicity and religion never enter into it.

    I was also was trying to figure out at which level this bothered him. He’s likely still got a bug up his chimney over Trump’s successful use of the Sailer Strategy, and this was just a chance to take a quick pot-shot.

  151. Needless to say, if the film producer in question were named, say, Farrelly instead of Weinstein, JPod could not have cared less.

  152. (From a short story draft a friend showed me)

    The boys were there again, black and Puerto Rican. They had come out of the subway on 96th and Broadway, and they were following him, up West End Avenue. “Maricon” one yelled, “Hey, fat Maricon.” Hey fat Maricon, we need some ice cream..” “You gotta little money for us?”

    My god, he thought, when would it end. They were younger than he, about fourteen, but there were several of them. What did they know, what did they sense, that they targeted him?
    He would go to college in two years, away from all this—far away. Stanford maybe, or if he didn’t get in, at least Chicago. But how to get far away.

    The parental legacy was so fucking stifling. Dad kept telling him to triumph over it, to stand up and fight like a man. He had, or at least said he had. He had been tough. In Brownsville yet, he had stood his ground and fought, and then written about it. “My Negro Problem”, Ha. The piece had made him famous. But he didn’t have to put up with this “Maricon” shit.

    He would triumph over this one day, he was sure. Be his own man. Have maybe his own TV show. Reading was kind of boring, but he was quicker than most in his class, knew Broadway, could joke with the stars. He could do TV, like Merv Griffin maybe, but political. He’d show them. When had his own voice, it would be tough.

    Now the boys were getting closer. If he crossed Broadway quickly as the light was changing, he would be a good distance away, and then the apartment not too far away. He wondered whether Mom would be home. She was on a moralistic tack lately, “The Boys at the Beach.” What did she know about such things anyway? Why did she care? What was her purpose in writing about this?
    They, the boys had stopped, turned off to go into the park. Basketball probably, they can’t think of anything else. Why didn’t they leave him alone? One thing was sure, when he was grown up, he’d be powerful. And they’d be either poor or dead. They’d be nothing.

  153. @Art Deco
    Talent runs in families I suppose but it regresses toward the mean. Thus Podhoretz the younger is less gifted than his father and Bill Kristol is not even in the same league as his mother and father. Y

    Wm. Kristol has a Harvard doctorate and is much more extensively educated than his father was. His father was an editor, not an exceptional producer of original content. Kristol eschewed building the academic career his mother did for whatever reason, but it's a stretch to say he was not suitable for one. The Decter-Podhoretz children do seem a cut below the previous generation intellectually, albeit in an uneven sort of way. That's not true of Wm. Kristol.

    As far as a stand out unique intellectual of his generation, name a few intellectual concepts that William Kristol will be recalled for decades from now. What exactly is he known for, aside from parroting the standard neocon talking points of the day? He was once a speechwriter for Dan Quayle, which isn’t saying much since Dan Quayle is barely recalled today among standard conservatives, much less cared about on the Alt. Right. And he’s a talking head on FOX News, not really a breeding ground for new innovative ideas. Weekly Standard, same thing.

    What intellectual idea, trope, or theme is he known for creating? I’d say not much of anything. That’s why the image of him persists as little more than a neoconservative hack. With each passing decade, that perception appears to be accurate. Irony is, he didn’t have to go to Harvard to be a career hack. Sean Hannity proves that every day.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    Hannity gets a world of poop, some of it deserved. But to his credit he recognized very early that the institutional GOP hacks like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are as much a part of the problem as anyone else. Just today Paul Ryan is opposing Trump's plan to deport the DRE...ILLEGAL ALIENS. And you no longer see the likes of Jonah Goldberg nor Podhertz nor Kristol going on his show.

    If Bannon is real about founding a new cable station, Hannity might be joining it, depending on contracts. Sounds like Gavin McInnes is going there.
    , @Art Deco
    I've never read his dissertation. I assume there's a ProQuest copy available for a fee. I don't think it was published. (As most are not).

    "Standard neo-con talking points"? I'm out of air unpacking the inanity of phrases like this. The essential silliness aside, you don't think your end of the argument has 'standard talking points'? You all do, it's just that the audience for them is comparatively small.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Leave it to a non-entity like Art Deco to defend a non-entity like William Kristol. I guess non-entities have to stick together.
  154. Norman Podhoretz + Irving Kristol = Neo Cons

    John Podhoretz + William Kristol = Nepo Cons

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Thanks, I always mix those up.
    , @Art Deco
    John Podhoretz + William Kristol = Nepo Cons

    William Kristol never worked for any of his father's publications. He was the founder of The Weekly Standard.
  155. [Disclaimer: I have not read any comments yet – looking forward to it. In case it’s not been said:]

    Isn’t any “bad” publicity better than no publicity, Steve? Even for tweets, your tweet is at the bottom, and that means people will read it along with the Pod-person’s tweet. It still gets your word out.

    To paraphrase another wise saying: “We can judge a man by the enemies he makes.”… something like that. In this case that makes you one of the good guys.

    Good on ya’, Steve Sailer.

  156. @Jack D
    A Clintonian answer. Maybe you don't recall saying that, but is it true?

    A Clintonian answer. Maybe you don’t recall saying that, but is it true?

    When did you stop beating your wife?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    When Ike Turner died, one of the tabloids ran a banner headline on the front page: "IKE BEATS TINA TO DEATH!"
  157. Anonymous [AKA "Willsit"] says:

    You’re all assuming “Reprllent” was a typo for “repellent.” Might I suggest he meant to say “redpilled” and was subtly signalling the fact that he knows Sailer is speaking the truth?

    Could JPod be, dare I say it, /our guy/?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    "redpillent"
  158. @Achilles
    Projection.

    Meanwhile, the source of the evil juju emanations has been found: Former WaPo Religion columnist Sally Quinn

    Says she's killed or ruined three people through demonic hexes and it's all she can do to restrain herself from placing a hex on Donald Trump.

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/27/sally-quinn-next-act-finding-magic/

    We need those gay columnists. Otherwise how would we know that Channing Tatum is good looking? I guess he is attractive although I always wondered. He has a kind of melted looking face. Cary Grant seems handsome mostly because he has chiseled features. Or at least that was always my criteria. But then this Tatum guy emerged and I was confused. To me he looked bland but there had to be some appeal that got him into movies. Fortunately we have gay movie critics who can set us straight.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @njguy73

    We need those gay columnists. Otherwise how would we know that Channing Tatum is good looking? I guess he is attractive although I always wondered. He has a kind of melted looking face. Cary Grant seems handsome mostly because he has chiseled features. Or at least that was always my criteria. But then this Tatum guy emerged and I was confused. To me he looked bland but there had to be some appeal that got him into movies. Fortunately we have gay movie critics who can set us straight.
     
    Pretty much every straight woman I know, regardless of age or race, drools over him. He's the new Brad Pitt.
    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "We need those gay columnists. Otherwise how would we know that Channing Tatum is good looking? I guess he is attractive although I always wondered."

    A lot of the men on my dad's side look like Tatum, and I think my family is normal looking, mostly.

    Maybe women prefer the "boy next door" versus some unapproachably exotic Calvin Klein underwear model sporting an eight-pack.
  159. @Anon
    If Sailer applied Sailerism to Israel alone, Pod would be his greatest fan.

    What people like Pod fear most is Independence. Independence means a people will put their interests first and at center. Pod wants all white Americans to put their own identity/interests in the back-burner to serve the greater 'good' of globalism dominated by Elysium Club that allows ethno-centrism only for Israel.

    When Hindus began to put their identity and interests first, they no longer wanted to serve the 'higher' interests of the British Empire.

    If a people want to opt out of globalist supremacism, they are attacked as 'supremacist'.

    If Sailer applied Sailerism to Israel alone, Pod would be his greatest fan.

    Steve’s citizenism is the core of what pisses JPod off. Along no doubt with Steve’s “noticing” and in particular contrasts of what’s kosher in Israel versus here.

    But this is still a bit off. “Sailerism”–i.e. citizenism–which Steve advocates is not what Israel practices/what JPod approves of. Israel is openly an ethno-nationalist state and not just in a nodding “this is our culture” sort of way, but in a policy specific sort of way (e.g. selective immigration).

    More accurate would be to say that if Richard Spencer applied “Spencerism” to Israel alone JPod would be his greatest fan.

    ~~

    While JPod is pretty much a loon–often seeming to be no more than a crude caricature of Jewish ethnic resentments–his particular line of thought on these sorts of issues seems quite common among a whole slew of Jewish commentators from center-left through right:

    Israel is … Israel, a nation, the homeland of the Jewish people. And Israel must do anything that is necessary to preserve itself as the homeland of the Jewish people.

    All other nations, however, are in the category of “host nations”. They must be “open”. They in particular must be ever open to the Jews or else they are “anti-Semitic”. And white nations in particular must be deconstructed to be open to all and “multicultural” so that minorities–like Jews–can always feel welcome. And super-specifically the United States is the ultimate “host nation” and has no legitimate native character–it’s a “nation of immigrants”–and must have open immigration to utterly drown those racist rednecks who somehow think they have some claim on it.

  160. @EriK
    I hate JPod

    I hate JPod

    He’s an odious human. But honestly can’t summon up a lot “hate”–he’s pretty much a pipsqueak who everyone informed knows has his media perch through sheer nepotism. Even though he was NR PC conformant he alienated even all those cucks by just being a big talentless jerk.

    Paul Ryan on the other hand… pretty sure, he’s regularly trotting down to the 9th circle to scheme with his friends.

    • Replies: @EriK
    well said.
  161. I’m such a reactionary shitlord, I literally don’t understand why Mr. Podhoretz was angered by this. Seems like pretty tame stuff, to be sure. To call it “racist,” just seems silly.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    It's because he said "Weinstein," as opposed to say "Tarantino."
  162. @AnotherDad

    I hate JPod
     
    He's an odious human. But honestly can't summon up a lot "hate"--he's pretty much a pipsqueak who everyone informed knows has his media perch through sheer nepotism. Even though he was NR PC conformant he alienated even all those cucks by just being a big talentless jerk.

    Paul Ryan on the other hand... pretty sure, he's regularly trotting down to the 9th circle to scheme with his friends.

    well said.

  163. @Art Deco
    What he lacks is character.

    I don't know that he cheats on his wife or cheats on his taxes. I've no reason to believe he's ever advocated anything he didn't actually believe, although the opinion-monger trade does induce people to play particular stereotyped roles. He does have a sense of himself and his social circle that tends to inflate their importance and sophistication. (See the obituary of his sister in which he chuffers about how accomplished his brother-in-law was at age 36; his brother-in-law was a lawyer with a fund of liberal education who had certain connections and certain modest administrative talents; he wasn't any more accomplished than a mid-level business executive of a sort you can find in any small city in America).

    Whatever dynamic which prevailed between JP and his parents after 1982 was the wrong one. He never acquired any post-baccalaureate schooling or worked in a trade for which you could say he was suitable. Instead, he wrote mediocre newspaper columns for the New York Post, ate too much, dressed badly, married very late in life, had no children until he was nearly 40, and ended up taking over the dregs of his father's magazine when the American Jewish Committee and his father's puppy dog Neil Kozodoy decided they were done with it. He seems like a character who might be skewered or pitied in a short story by Joan Didion or John Updike.

    Men like his father built up a tremendous reservoir of goodwill. It was that goodwill that made racism and anti-semitism something that respectable people take care to avoid.

    He draws down that reservoir wantonly and meretriciously for the pettiest of reasons.

    You can’t lack much more character than that.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Men like his father built up a tremendous reservoir of goodwill. It was that goodwill that made racism and anti-semitism something that respectable people take care to avoid.

    This remark doesn't make much sense to me. Kristol is best known as a purveyor of general audience literature which shamed the red-haze into silence for the better part of a generation and later as one who got critiques of liberal social policy into circulation among people who had influence but couldn't handle academic literature in economics or technical sociology.

    If the story of my relatives is representative, anti-semitism as practiced (what was called 'the five o'clock shadow') dissipated during the first 20 years after the war because it was awkward and the up-and-coming generation just couldn't see the point of it. (These arguments played out between my mother and her parents). To some extent, the distinction in manners between bourgeois Jews and bourgeois non-ethnics of my grandparents generation could be quite stark and even in my parents' generation was still noticeable. Observers of Robert Oppenheimer and Lionel Trilling thought both men played against type self-consciously.
  164. @guest
    "I'm hard pressed to understand how exactly that bit got Podhoretz so excited"

    Perhaps the echo effect of "Weinstein?"

    I'd ask what if Steve picked a non-echoey Hollywood producer name, but I can't think of one right now.

    Well, the better known Weinstein brother is Harvey–so the choice makes complete sense in many ways.

    I bet few can name the other brother…

    • Replies: @el topo
    Bob. A similar constellation to Albert Brooks and his lesser known brother Bob Einstein. In bother cases, the more famous brother is bigger and more flamboyant, while second banana Bob is thinner and more reserved.
  165. @Achilles
    Projection.

    Meanwhile, the source of the evil juju emanations has been found: Former WaPo Religion columnist Sally Quinn

    Says she's killed or ruined three people through demonic hexes and it's all she can do to restrain herself from placing a hex on Donald Trump.

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/27/sally-quinn-next-act-finding-magic/

    Sorry my comment to the left is for another thread. It is in reply to a posting about Channing Tatum in “Racial Chemotherapy”…

  166. @Buzz Mohawk
    Give the guy a break.

    Photoshop hasn't been invented yet in his universe. He lives in another time, and he thinks the picture is real:

    "I have great difficulty supporting a blanket policy of immigration restriction because of what happened to the Jewish people after 1924 and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in."
    -- John Podheretz
     

    Because nothing has changed since 1924. That’s the kind of silly judgment that would be incessantly mocked even in polite company…

  167. @anony-mouse
    For years you've been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR.

    But in all that time you've never explained your absence from TAC for whom you once wrote.

    I suppose this is as good a time to ask as any.

    I’m just a random fan who doesn’t know anything…

    But I understand from Wikipedia that Taki, Pat Buchanan, Scott McConnell, and Ron Unz were all formerly associated with TAC, and are no longer.

    Knowing that, it wouldn’t surprise me if the current publishers of TAC are strongly committed to avoid violating the Sacred Taboos of the Current Year.

    On the other hand, TAC star blogger Rod Dreher semi-frequently links favorably to Steve.

  168. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    I'm such a reactionary shitlord, I literally don't understand why Mr. Podhoretz was angered by this. Seems like pretty tame stuff, to be sure. To call it "racist," just seems silly.

    It’s because he said “Weinstein,” as opposed to say “Tarantino.”

  169. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Heheheh

    https://twitter.com/jacques_bergere/status/903444924368080896

    At one time my government job was to evaluate government programs. This was in the eighties as I remember. I was not the only evaluator but I was the only one who actually did any real evaluation. I told the other time servers who never published a report “If they don’t call you a Nazi. You aren’t really doing your job.”

    I remember filing an unfavorable report on a senior program and the contractor referred to me at the County Board as “Boyle and his storm troopers”. My storm troopers averaged about 85.

    So if they call you a fascist or a Nazi or a racist – wear it with pride. Proof that you are doing your job.

    • Replies: @fnn
    You must have had a a hundred or more jobs in your life. Time to write your memoirs.
  170. @Jack D
    It's kind of hard to tell from the photoshop, especially if you haven't seen the original photo.

    In the original, a big strong white guy is carrying a small Latino looking woman with a baby out of the flood.

    It the photo shop, it's vice versa.

    Per published captions, the rescuer is Daryl Hudeck, and the rescuee is Catherine Pham and child (i.e. Southeast Asian).

    Outside of this particular corner of commentary, the big controversy about this picture was when blogger Matt Walsh made a commonsensical observation:

    “Woman cradles and protects child. Man carries and protects both. This is how it ought to be, despite what your gender studies professor says.”

    And lo, the wrath of the harpies did descend upon him. Out of the many pointings and shriekings, the official curators of Twitter instructed Tweeters to read the Tweet thread by Christina Wolbrecht, whom they identified as a “Real Professor,” explaining interminably why Walsh’s Tweet was Problematic.

    • Replies: @Sayless
    "And lo the wrath of the harpies"

    Wait till the harpies need to be carried out of a flood.
  171. @EH
    There are other chans besides 4chan (a.k.a. "half-chan"), most notably 8chan (a.k.a. "infinity chan"), all of which have /pol (politics, specifically right-wing politics) forums. The big chans have /leftypol forums as well.

    /pol anons (users) are the leading weaponized autists on the internet(s), specializing in online investigations, doxing, and meme warfare.

    +1 on the significance of their “Weaponized Autism.”

    I’m way too old to be able to understand how to access or use /pol/, but their frequently suspended and then frequently re-incarnated Twitter account, “Pol News Network,” gives a fascinating sense of what they are up to:

    This is the latest version:

    • Replies: @Lurker
    I've looked in on /pol/ sometimes, in fact I was exhorted to get on there!

    But I just couldn't 'get' it. Who is talking to whom etc It looks like a shambles to me.
  172. @Art Deco
    Talent runs in families I suppose but it regresses toward the mean. Thus Podhoretz the younger is less gifted than his father and Bill Kristol is not even in the same league as his mother and father. Y

    Wm. Kristol has a Harvard doctorate and is much more extensively educated than his father was. His father was an editor, not an exceptional producer of original content. Kristol eschewed building the academic career his mother did for whatever reason, but it's a stretch to say he was not suitable for one. The Decter-Podhoretz children do seem a cut below the previous generation intellectually, albeit in an uneven sort of way. That's not true of Wm. Kristol.

    I went to a Republican dinner once where Bill Kristol was the speaker. Very disappointing. An empty suit – doctorate or not.

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    Sounds like a waste of an evening to me!!
  173. Whoah! Is that really the woman’s husband standing around like a jackass in the background while another man carries his wife and child to safety?! If that be so, then unless the husband has some latent injury (a really bad back?), then there are no words….

    • Replies: @Broski
    I feel bad for him. But, yeah, not a good look.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    Nope, that's another cajun matelot and his copain making sure boaty doesn't go byebyes while his oppo finds his feet and gets the cargo ashore. Hubby was deliberately cropped out of the pic, he's a few feet in front i.e. to the left, and as Diverse as her. Daintily carrying a nice pair of red&white trainers (Size XLish, so unlikely hers) in front of him like they were the Crown Jewels. Don't worry, it's the Asian Way, wifey won't see anything amiss.
    , @Carneades
    Someone has to keep the boat from drifting away.
    , @Opinionator
    No, that is not her husband.
  174. Podhoretz is a typical pretentious pill. Met him once and could barely stand his pseudo intellectual airs.

  175. @timothy
    Wow, you are "a...scum" and "a...filth" !

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/09/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies.html

    In case anyone was wondering, J.P. Normanson (as he was known at the Washington Times) makes close to half a million dollars, base salary, for basically, as best I can tell, shitposting on Twitter all day.

    From "Making It" to hereditary madeness:

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/725493261322743809

    I’m glad you mentioned that. To understand the tangled history of the feud between Conservatism Inc. and the Dissident Right, it helps to see just how hysterically the likes of JPod react to even the most mild challenges to the Proposition Nation:

    7/11/2005 – JPod triggered by Derb’s criticism of birthright citizenship
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/pod-lesser-birthright-pundit/

    7/13/2005 – JPod calls Sailer “a scum”
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/please-keep-attacking-me/

    7/17/2005 – Sailer cites Norman Podhoretz contra JPod
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/podhoretz-junior-vs-steve-sailer

    9/3/2005 – Sailer commits an act of Unauthorized Noticing
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/racial-reality-and-the-new-orleans-nightmare

    9/5/2005 – JPod triggered; early use of “point ‘n’ sputter”
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies/

    9/7/2005 – Sailer cites Commentary and AEI contra JPod
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/john-podhoretz-averts-his-maidenly/

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    Those last three incidents came in the chaotic weeks after Katrina (the "New Orleans nightmare").

    That was a weird time. Black dysfunction was on full display, even as the leftoids were shrieking "Bush's fault! Bush's fault! Blame Whitey! Blame Whitey!" The New Orleans mayor even went so far as to say that, in the aftermath, his benighted burg would be reborn as a "chocolate city," bereft of stale pale interlopers.

    Katrina made landfall early on a Monday morning. That evening, the national newscasts reported that the levees had *held*. The full extent of the flooding was not widely reported until the next day.

    It must have been on Tuesday night that I first heard the reports of widespread looting and unrestrained criminality (including breathless accounts of dozens, if not hundreds, of grisly murders and horrific rapes - most of which were later dismissed as "unfounded rumors"). I hadn't listened to the news since the night before, so I was surprised (but not shocked) to hear that things had gone from hunky-dory to apocalyptic.

    Even then, I was intensely skeptical of the Narrative on race. I was in my early 20s, so I was as liberal as I've ever been - which is, to say, not much.

    I was heavily into conspiracy theories - "9/11 was an inside job," "a small cabal of evil businessmen run the world," "a small cabal of evil gay Cuban businessmen run Miami," etc.

    (My favorite conspiracy theory, which I have never totally disavowed, is "During Hurricane Andrew, hundreds if not thousands of migrant workers living in shacks in Homestead died; the military dumped their bodies in mass graves and burned them." I know people who swear that they saw this with their own eyes.)

    Watching the Katrina afterparty in N'awlins, I pretty much rolled my eyes and said, "Dindus gonna dindu."

    Fun fact: While covering the storm, NBC anchorman Brian Williams contracted dysentery after carelessly allowing dirty water to drip from an awning into his open drinking bottle.
    , @bored identity
    Here, bored identity fixed this Family Hologram Projection:



    In case you were wondering whether Steve Sailer my 'John, I am Your Father', Daddy Norman was a loathsome, reprllent racist filth, wonder no longer.

     

  176. @Charles Pewitt
    John Podhoretz is a lovely human who spreads joy wherever he goes. I had an extremely pleasant encounter with Mr. Podhoretz on Twitter. It made me bust out laughing.

    This Tweet is from 2014:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/486520490299637760

    The whole thread on Twitter:

    John Podhoretz: Hey, it's Bush's fault NY Times...Amazing it took five years for it to become a crisis!

    Charles Pewitt: George W Bush and the Neo-Con shyster rodents pushed mass immigration into the US. Bush is to blame, Poddy.

    John Podhoretz: Please attach a cup to your chin to catch the drool as it drops.

    Charles Pewitt: My people settled and cleared the way for your filth. Poddy, you are an unassimilated, arrogant shyster rodent.

    John Podhoretz: That lobotomy isn't working very well.

    Charles Pewitt: It was a mistake to allow large numbers of non-European, non-Christians to come to US. Poddy, you are filth.

    John Podhoretz: Your right. Better that the continent be left to in-bred defectives like you.

    Charles Pewitt: Do you think mass immigration since the 1965 Immigration Act has been good for the USA?

    John Podhoretz: If it dilutes your personal vote to the point where it doesn't matter, given that your IQ is 12, yes.

    Charles Pewitt: Jon Podhoretz is a Neo-Con shyster rodent who pushes mass immigration into the US.

    I almost feel sorry for Podhoretz. It would be interesting to force him to engage in reasoned argument and not let the dialogue default to name calling back and forth.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    You say:

    I almost feel sorry for Podhoretz. It would be interesting to force him to engage in reasoned argument and not let the dialogue default to name calling back and forth.

     

    I say:

    John Podhoretz wants to maintain the power the Neo-Cons now have in the American Empire. Poddy does not want to engage in "reasoned argument." The Neo-Cons must be confronted directly on what they are and what they want to do with the power they now have in the American Empire.

    The Alt-Right is rising because "conservatives" made an evil deal to allow the Neo-Cons into the ruling class of the American Empire. The Alt-Right seeks to dislodge the Neo-Cons from power. I am aware that creatures such as John Podhoretz can in no way be "reasoned" with. John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons must be removed from the Republican Party and the ruling class of the American Empire.

    The Alt-Right is rising because people are wondering just what it is that so-called "conservatives" are actually conserving.

    John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons are using the American Empire as muscle to do Israel's dirty work. The Alt-Right says no to fighting wars on behalf of Israel. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons were big backers of the Iraq War debacle.

    Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons push nation-wrecking mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons are enemies of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.
    , @Forbes
    No reason to feel sorry. Those that deal in name-calling do so because it's their default condition--they don't know how to engage in reasoned argument.
  177. @FPD72
    I thought that Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon were good films. I haven't seen Patriot Day. I found Deepwater Horizon to be fairly accurate technically, although some probable contributing causes of the blowout were left out for the sake of brevity.

    Those were all directed by Peter Berg, not Michael Bay. Berg is a competent director, also involved with the quality tv series Friday Night Lights.

  178. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    As far as a stand out unique intellectual of his generation, name a few intellectual concepts that William Kristol will be recalled for decades from now. What exactly is he known for, aside from parroting the standard neocon talking points of the day? He was once a speechwriter for Dan Quayle, which isn't saying much since Dan Quayle is barely recalled today among standard conservatives, much less cared about on the Alt. Right. And he's a talking head on FOX News, not really a breeding ground for new innovative ideas. Weekly Standard, same thing.

    What intellectual idea, trope, or theme is he known for creating? I'd say not much of anything. That's why the image of him persists as little more than a neoconservative hack. With each passing decade, that perception appears to be accurate. Irony is, he didn't have to go to Harvard to be a career hack. Sean Hannity proves that every day.

    Hannity gets a world of poop, some of it deserved. But to his credit he recognized very early that the institutional GOP hacks like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are as much a part of the problem as anyone else. Just today Paul Ryan is opposing Trump’s plan to deport the DRE…ILLEGAL ALIENS. And you no longer see the likes of Jonah Goldberg nor Podhertz nor Kristol going on his show.

    If Bannon is real about founding a new cable station, Hannity might be joining it, depending on contracts. Sounds like Gavin McInnes is going there.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Ryan is one-degree-of-separation removed from the ideological open-borders advocacy of the circle around Robert Bartley, and that's his deal. He's absolutely the wrong person to be leading the GOP at this time. (McConnell's just a finger-to-the-wind-bon-bons-for-Donohue hack). It's an indication the GOP caucus is useless or that the internal dynamics of the caucus produces perverse results. Brat knocks out Cantor and the successor crew is worse. It makes no sense.
  179. Somebody better save that original photo before it gets memory-holed for showing a white man in a good light.

    • Replies: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    There is nothing wrong in showing white men in good light when indeed they are...
  180. @Mr. Blank
    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Is he objecting to the joke about how Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming "diversity" into every story, no matter how out of place it is? I thought that the right -- the WHOLE right, from the craziest radicals to the most cowardly cucks -- pretty much universally agreed this was stupid.

    Or maybe JPod sees "Weinstein" and it causes his Jew-baiting alarm to immediately go off. Sigh. If that's what he's worried about, let me assure him it went right over the heads of about 99 percent of Gentiles. The Jewish angle on Steve's comment didn't even register with me until JPod got his undies in a wad over it.

    Hey, John, it's not always about the Jews. The typical Gentile doesn't see "Weinsteins" and think "Joooooooos!" They see it and think, "those are the annoying guys who are always trying to suck up to Oscar voters." Ethnicity and religion never enter into it.

    Why doesn’t someone just ask him?

  181. @jimmyriddle
    JPod has been known to notice things himself:


    "Two ideas puzzled me deeply as a child growing up in Brooklyn during the 1930’s in what today would be called an integrated neighborhood. One of them was that all Jews were rich; the other was that all Negroes were persecuted. These ideas had appeared in print; therefore they must be true. My own experience and the evidence of my senses told me they were not true....."

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

    that was NPod, who wasn’t an obese moron. Unlike his son.

  182. @Mr. Blank
    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Is he objecting to the joke about how Hollywood insists on awkwardly cramming "diversity" into every story, no matter how out of place it is? I thought that the right -- the WHOLE right, from the craziest radicals to the most cowardly cucks -- pretty much universally agreed this was stupid.

    Or maybe JPod sees "Weinstein" and it causes his Jew-baiting alarm to immediately go off. Sigh. If that's what he's worried about, let me assure him it went right over the heads of about 99 percent of Gentiles. The Jewish angle on Steve's comment didn't even register with me until JPod got his undies in a wad over it.

    Hey, John, it's not always about the Jews. The typical Gentile doesn't see "Weinsteins" and think "Joooooooos!" They see it and think, "those are the annoying guys who are always trying to suck up to Oscar voters." Ethnicity and religion never enter into it.

    Sigh. Am I the only one who fails to grasp what Podhoretz found so offensive here?

    Good question. Why doesn’t someone just ask him? Is there a way to ask him?

  183. père offended all the right people, fils is one of the right people to offend.

    Well done Steve

  184. @jimmyriddle
    JPod has been known to notice things himself:


    "Two ideas puzzled me deeply as a child growing up in Brooklyn during the 1930’s in what today would be called an integrated neighborhood. One of them was that all Jews were rich; the other was that all Negroes were persecuted. These ideas had appeared in print; therefore they must be true. My own experience and the evidence of my senses told me they were not true....."

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

    That was JPod’s vastly superior father, Norman. Note the article was published in 1963.

  185. @RobertTaylor
    Shame on Podhoretz

    But I must say, moments like this are clarifying. What a nasty little comment.

    He continues to marginalize himself.

    He, Stephens, and Kristol have been draping themselves in glory this year.

  186. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    I looked for 4chan/pol/ yesterday using duckduckgo, but was unable to find it. I found 8chan/pol/. Thanks.

    For some inexplicable reason I’m still using google, and it’s findable there: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Broski - Thanks. One of the previous commenters mentioned where it could be found.
  187. @Reg Cæsar

    A Clintonian answer. Maybe you don’t recall saying that, but is it true?
     
    When did you stop beating your wife?

    When Ike Turner died, one of the tabloids ran a banner headline on the front page: “IKE BEATS TINA TO DEATH!”

  188. @Stan d Mute
    Does anyone still read crap like Commentary or NR?

    And Steve just might be "repellent" no? How could one tell?

    From what I can tell, he’s done a lot of attracting over the past 10 years. When he would first get mentions from well known pundits it was a huge deal. Now Ann Coulter retweets several articles a week.

  189. @Mr. Anon

    The tweet wasn’t racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.
     
    No, Steve doesn't. He has in interest in race because it is an important topic that is seldomly talked discussed honestly in the MSM.

    Yep. Like most of us, we became racialist when we realized others hate hate hated us (JPod, are you reading this?). We may not be interested in race, but race is interested in us.

  190. @Art Deco
    Talent runs in families I suppose but it regresses toward the mean. Thus Podhoretz the younger is less gifted than his father and Bill Kristol is not even in the same league as his mother and father. Y

    Wm. Kristol has a Harvard doctorate and is much more extensively educated than his father was. His father was an editor, not an exceptional producer of original content. Kristol eschewed building the academic career his mother did for whatever reason, but it's a stretch to say he was not suitable for one. The Decter-Podhoretz children do seem a cut below the previous generation intellectually, albeit in an uneven sort of way. That's not true of Wm. Kristol.

    Wm. Kristol has a Harvard doctorate and is much more extensively educated than his father was. His father was an editor, not an exceptional producer of original content. Kristol eschewed building the academic career his mother did for whatever reason, but it’s a stretch to say he was not suitable for one.

    Yeah, well, the enemies of truth are right about one thing: there is a lot more to talent than IQ. And if you think a Harvard doctorate means much, you haven’t been paying attention lately. That brand is going down faster than the Ford Pinto.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    And if you think a Harvard doctorate means much, you haven’t been paying attention lately. That brand is going down faster than the Ford Pinto.


    Fine. Tell Ron Unz he can quit bickering with Dr. Martz and Nurit Baytch about the numbers because none of it matters.
  191. @Autochthon
    Whoah! Is that really the woman's husband standing around like a jackass in the background while another man carries his wife and child to safety?! If that be so, then unless the husband has some latent injury (a really bad back?), then there are no words....

    I feel bad for him. But, yeah, not a good look.

  192. @Opinionator
    I almost feel sorry for Podhoretz. It would be interesting to force him to engage in reasoned argument and not let the dialogue default to name calling back and forth.

    You say:

    I almost feel sorry for Podhoretz. It would be interesting to force him to engage in reasoned argument and not let the dialogue default to name calling back and forth.

    I say:

    John Podhoretz wants to maintain the power the Neo-Cons now have in the American Empire. Poddy does not want to engage in “reasoned argument.” The Neo-Cons must be confronted directly on what they are and what they want to do with the power they now have in the American Empire.

    The Alt-Right is rising because “conservatives” made an evil deal to allow the Neo-Cons into the ruling class of the American Empire. The Alt-Right seeks to dislodge the Neo-Cons from power. I am aware that creatures such as John Podhoretz can in no way be “reasoned” with. John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons must be removed from the Republican Party and the ruling class of the American Empire.

    The Alt-Right is rising because people are wondering just what it is that so-called “conservatives” are actually conserving.

    John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons are using the American Empire as muscle to do Israel’s dirty work. The Alt-Right says no to fighting wars on behalf of Israel. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons were big backers of the Iraq War debacle.

    Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons push nation-wrecking mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons are enemies of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Reasoned argument exposes them. Which is why Podhoretz presses discourse in the direction of name calling, insults.
    , @Art Deco
    John Podhoretz wants to maintain the power the Neo-Cons now have in the American Empire.

    Podhoretz and his social circle haven't any power and there is no Empire.
  193. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    As far as a stand out unique intellectual of his generation, name a few intellectual concepts that William Kristol will be recalled for decades from now. What exactly is he known for, aside from parroting the standard neocon talking points of the day? He was once a speechwriter for Dan Quayle, which isn't saying much since Dan Quayle is barely recalled today among standard conservatives, much less cared about on the Alt. Right. And he's a talking head on FOX News, not really a breeding ground for new innovative ideas. Weekly Standard, same thing.

    What intellectual idea, trope, or theme is he known for creating? I'd say not much of anything. That's why the image of him persists as little more than a neoconservative hack. With each passing decade, that perception appears to be accurate. Irony is, he didn't have to go to Harvard to be a career hack. Sean Hannity proves that every day.

    I’ve never read his dissertation. I assume there’s a ProQuest copy available for a fee. I don’t think it was published. (As most are not).

    “Standard neo-con talking points”? I’m out of air unpacking the inanity of phrases like this. The essential silliness aside, you don’t think your end of the argument has ‘standard talking points’? You all do, it’s just that the audience for them is comparatively small.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    I notice that you didn't answer the question:

    What intellectual idea, trope, or theme is he known for creating?
     
    So, I guess we can assume that he is not known for anything important, like, say: Make America Great Again.
    , @Mr. Anon

    “Standard neo-con talking points”? I’m out of air unpacking the inanity of phrases like this.
     
    It's a perfectly apt term to describe "standard neo-con talking points". If you are too stupid to understand their agenda and understand that they have one, that is your problem, and perhaps unsurprising, as you are too stupid to understand a lot of things.
  194. @Autochthon
    Whoah! Is that really the woman's husband standing around like a jackass in the background while another man carries his wife and child to safety?! If that be so, then unless the husband has some latent injury (a really bad back?), then there are no words....

    Nope, that’s another cajun matelot and his copain making sure boaty doesn’t go byebyes while his oppo finds his feet and gets the cargo ashore. Hubby was deliberately cropped out of the pic, he’s a few feet in front i.e. to the left, and as Diverse as her. Daintily carrying a nice pair of red&white trainers (Size XLish, so unlikely hers) in front of him like they were the Crown Jewels. Don’t worry, it’s the Asian Way, wifey won’t see anything amiss.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Ah. Everything is illuminated.
  195. @Bugg
    Hannity gets a world of poop, some of it deserved. But to his credit he recognized very early that the institutional GOP hacks like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are as much a part of the problem as anyone else. Just today Paul Ryan is opposing Trump's plan to deport the DRE...ILLEGAL ALIENS. And you no longer see the likes of Jonah Goldberg nor Podhertz nor Kristol going on his show.

    If Bannon is real about founding a new cable station, Hannity might be joining it, depending on contracts. Sounds like Gavin McInnes is going there.

    Ryan is one-degree-of-separation removed from the ideological open-borders advocacy of the circle around Robert Bartley, and that’s his deal. He’s absolutely the wrong person to be leading the GOP at this time. (McConnell’s just a finger-to-the-wind-bon-bons-for-Donohue hack). It’s an indication the GOP caucus is useless or that the internal dynamics of the caucus produces perverse results. Brat knocks out Cantor and the successor crew is worse. It makes no sense.

  196. @benjaminl
    I'm glad you mentioned that. To understand the tangled history of the feud between Conservatism Inc. and the Dissident Right, it helps to see just how hysterically the likes of JPod react to even the most mild challenges to the Proposition Nation:

    7/11/2005 - JPod triggered by Derb's criticism of birthright citizenship
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/pod-lesser-birthright-pundit/

    7/13/2005 - JPod calls Sailer "a scum"
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/please-keep-attacking-me/

    7/17/2005 - Sailer cites Norman Podhoretz contra JPod
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/podhoretz-junior-vs-steve-sailer

    9/3/2005 - Sailer commits an act of Unauthorized Noticing
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/racial-reality-and-the-new-orleans-nightmare

    9/5/2005 - JPod triggered; early use of "point 'n' sputter"
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies/

    9/7/2005 - Sailer cites Commentary and AEI contra JPod
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/john-podhoretz-averts-his-maidenly/

    Those last three incidents came in the chaotic weeks after Katrina (the “New Orleans nightmare”).

    That was a weird time. Black dysfunction was on full display, even as the leftoids were shrieking “Bush’s fault! Bush’s fault! Blame Whitey! Blame Whitey!” The New Orleans mayor even went so far as to say that, in the aftermath, his benighted burg would be reborn as a “chocolate city,” bereft of stale pale interlopers.

    Katrina made landfall early on a Monday morning. That evening, the national newscasts reported that the levees had *held*. The full extent of the flooding was not widely reported until the next day.

    It must have been on Tuesday night that I first heard the reports of widespread looting and unrestrained criminality (including breathless accounts of dozens, if not hundreds, of grisly murders and horrific rapes – most of which were later dismissed as “unfounded rumors”). I hadn’t listened to the news since the night before, so I was surprised (but not shocked) to hear that things had gone from hunky-dory to apocalyptic.

    Even then, I was intensely skeptical of the Narrative on race. I was in my early 20s, so I was as liberal as I’ve ever been – which is, to say, not much.

    I was heavily into conspiracy theories – “9/11 was an inside job,” “a small cabal of evil businessmen run the world,” “a small cabal of evil gay Cuban businessmen run Miami,” etc.

    (My favorite conspiracy theory, which I have never totally disavowed, is “During Hurricane Andrew, hundreds if not thousands of migrant workers living in shacks in Homestead died; the military dumped their bodies in mass graves and burned them.” I know people who swear that they saw this with their own eyes.)

    Watching the Katrina afterparty in N’awlins, I pretty much rolled my eyes and said, “Dindus gonna dindu.”

    Fun fact: While covering the storm, NBC anchorman Brian Williams contracted dysentery after carelessly allowing dirty water to drip from an awning into his open drinking bottle.

  197. @Pat Boyle
    We need those gay columnists. Otherwise how would we know that Channing Tatum is good looking? I guess he is attractive although I always wondered. He has a kind of melted looking face. Cary Grant seems handsome mostly because he has chiseled features. Or at least that was always my criteria. But then this Tatum guy emerged and I was confused. To me he looked bland but there had to be some appeal that got him into movies. Fortunately we have gay movie critics who can set us straight.

    We need those gay columnists. Otherwise how would we know that Channing Tatum is good looking? I guess he is attractive although I always wondered. He has a kind of melted looking face. Cary Grant seems handsome mostly because he has chiseled features. Or at least that was always my criteria. But then this Tatum guy emerged and I was confused. To me he looked bland but there had to be some appeal that got him into movies. Fortunately we have gay movie critics who can set us straight.

    Pretty much every straight woman I know, regardless of age or race, drools over him. He’s the new Brad Pitt.

  198. Moments ago – at 1614 Eastern on 2017-09-01 – Fox News Channel ran a Red Cross commercial featuring the original version of the photo.

  199. OT:

    CNN sez Keith Schiller is leaving the White House.

  200. @Stan d Mute
    Does anyone still read crap like Commentary or NR?

    And Steve just might be "repellent" no? How could one tell?

    I quit reading NR after their “Against Trump” issue, and never did read Commentary.

    • Replies: @Carneades
    I quit reading NR when Buckley fired Joe Sobran in 1993.
    , @AM

    I quit reading NR after their “Against Trump” issue, and never did read Commentary.
     
    I quit reading when I got banned under the old comment system for "badthink" of saying maybe there are points that white nationalists have that we need to think about, even if we don't agree.

    NR is really scary place in terms of group think. I don't really think of them as conservative anymore. Just liberals who like how standing in a church each Sunday makes them feel and money.
  201. @Desiderius
    Men like his father built up a tremendous reservoir of goodwill. It was that goodwill that made racism and anti-semitism something that respectable people take care to avoid.

    He draws down that reservoir wantonly and meretriciously for the pettiest of reasons.

    You can't lack much more character than that.

    Men like his father built up a tremendous reservoir of goodwill. It was that goodwill that made racism and anti-semitism something that respectable people take care to avoid.

    This remark doesn’t make much sense to me. Kristol is best known as a purveyor of general audience literature which shamed the red-haze into silence for the better part of a generation and later as one who got critiques of liberal social policy into circulation among people who had influence but couldn’t handle academic literature in economics or technical sociology.

    If the story of my relatives is representative, anti-semitism as practiced (what was called ‘the five o’clock shadow’) dissipated during the first 20 years after the war because it was awkward and the up-and-coming generation just couldn’t see the point of it. (These arguments played out between my mother and her parents). To some extent, the distinction in manners between bourgeois Jews and bourgeois non-ethnics of my grandparents generation could be quite stark and even in my parents’ generation was still noticeable. Observers of Robert Oppenheimer and Lionel Trilling thought both men played against type self-consciously.

    • Replies: @Carneades
    Don't you mean "newly bourgeois Ashkenazi Jews?"
    , @AM

    If the story of my relatives is representative, anti-semitism as practiced (what was called ‘the five o’clock shadow’) dissipated during the first 20 years after the war because it was awkward and the up-and-coming generation just couldn’t see the point of it.
     
    They could see the point, in part because I think American Jews of that era made a point to not be John Podhoretz. Relationships with other people and groups are 2 way streets. There was gratitude to American Christian soldiers, the society in which they lived, and a sense of shared experiences.

    Of course there were fallen humans and all the rest. But generations have characteristics. My personal "first" encounter with American Jewish culture was Mel Brooks, in Spaceballs. Pretty good PR , I think. A Jewish guy making fun of himself - one of the better aspects shining through.

    But if that first encounter had been JPod, if any criticism of globalism results in "antisemite" I would have considered developing a 5 o'clock shadow myself. We're at collective overload with the Holocaust and the JQ. The Boomer Jews (like Boomer Christians) don't seem to wonders in self restraint and the damage is growing. That's how this stuff develops, unfortunately, for any group on the planet.
    , @Desiderius

    Kristol is best known as a purveyor of general audience literature which shamed the red-haze into silence for the better part of a generation and later as one who got critiques of liberal social policy into circulation among people who had influence but couldn’t handle academic literature in economics or technical sociology.
     
    As if we weren't dying for just that right now.

    Hugely valuable contribution, hugely appreciated. That appreciation rubbed off on his people and class.

    They've gone (way) downhill since.
  202. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    I looked for 4chan/pol/ yesterday using duckduckgo, but was unable to find it. I found 8chan/pol/. Thanks.

    I find knocking the “Strict” setting off the results page in DDG puts the Pit of Belial and its little green leafy flowery Gamergate logo right at the top. For some reason it’s concealed from delicate sensibilities, while endchan is allowed to frolic shamelessly in flagrante about six goose-steps below it.
    Having said that, it recently manifests itself unbidden at the top of my search regardless. Is my device now possessed?
    Anyway, don’t go there unless for a specific research purpose, like Aeneas following the Sibyl. One could easily lose one’s whole life to it, as its wretched and tormented Anon denizens occasionally mourn, and things once seen … cannot be unseen.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Expletive Deleted - Thanks. A earlier commentator indicated where 4chan could be found. I didn't think of removing the safe search.
  203. @Art Deco
    I've never read his dissertation. I assume there's a ProQuest copy available for a fee. I don't think it was published. (As most are not).

    "Standard neo-con talking points"? I'm out of air unpacking the inanity of phrases like this. The essential silliness aside, you don't think your end of the argument has 'standard talking points'? You all do, it's just that the audience for them is comparatively small.

    I notice that you didn’t answer the question:

    What intellectual idea, trope, or theme is he known for creating?

    So, I guess we can assume that he is not known for anything important, like, say: Make America Great Again.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    I notice that you didn’t answer the question:

    No, you didn't digest the answer I gave him. His original work is incorporated in his doctoral dissertation. It was never published and I haven't read it. If you want to read it, go to a university library where you have borrowing privileges and place an inter-library loan request for it. They can obtain a microfilm or digital copy. (UMI used to produce these. UMI was then bought by ProQuest).
  204. @Buzz Mohawk
    Give the guy a break.

    Photoshop hasn't been invented yet in his universe. He lives in another time, and he thinks the picture is real:

    "I have great difficulty supporting a blanket policy of immigration restriction because of what happened to the Jewish people after 1924 and the unwillingness of the United States to take Jews in."
    -- John Podheretz
     

    What happened to the Jewish people after 1924 exactly?

    Apart from having to pay membership dues to the Communist Party of the Sovunion maybe?

  205. @Garlic
    Norman Podhoretz + Irving Kristol = Neo Cons


    John Podhoretz + William Kristol = Nepo Cons

    Thanks, I always mix those up.

  206. @Autochthon
    Whoah! Is that really the woman's husband standing around like a jackass in the background while another man carries his wife and child to safety?! If that be so, then unless the husband has some latent injury (a really bad back?), then there are no words....

    Someone has to keep the boat from drifting away.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    "Whoah there, Cochise! Thanks for the lift, and for your service; from here, though, I'll get my family ashore; you can stay with the boat and continue your good work. I'll come back to help once I've seen to my own family's safety...."

    Those words, or something to that effect, would be the appropriate speech made before carrying one's family ashore and leaving the soldier (with due gratitude) to the boat.

    May be your (astute) point is that nowadays all too many such people instead twiddle their thumbs and wait for "the experts" or "the authorities" to tell them what to do or to do eveything for them, taking deference and inaction to a whole new level....
  207. @Art Deco
    Men like his father built up a tremendous reservoir of goodwill. It was that goodwill that made racism and anti-semitism something that respectable people take care to avoid.

    This remark doesn't make much sense to me. Kristol is best known as a purveyor of general audience literature which shamed the red-haze into silence for the better part of a generation and later as one who got critiques of liberal social policy into circulation among people who had influence but couldn't handle academic literature in economics or technical sociology.

    If the story of my relatives is representative, anti-semitism as practiced (what was called 'the five o'clock shadow') dissipated during the first 20 years after the war because it was awkward and the up-and-coming generation just couldn't see the point of it. (These arguments played out between my mother and her parents). To some extent, the distinction in manners between bourgeois Jews and bourgeois non-ethnics of my grandparents generation could be quite stark and even in my parents' generation was still noticeable. Observers of Robert Oppenheimer and Lionel Trilling thought both men played against type self-consciously.

    Don’t you mean “newly bourgeois Ashkenazi Jews?”

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    No. I mean bourgeois Jews. The best example I can think of was a married couple in my parents' circle. She was born into a bourgeois (German Jewish) family and he into a striving Russian Jewish family. She was of the middle-classes and always had been. Like many married couples, he relied on her in social situations to do the talking. They were about 10 years younger than my grandparents. The wife in particular had a radically different sensibility than did my grandmother.
  208. @Thucydides
    There is a history of dehumanizing people by calling them "filth" that you think would make Podhoretz think twice before descending into such rhetoric.

    To think once would be a start…

  209. @anony-mouse
    For years you've been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR.

    But in all that time you've never explained your absence from TAC for whom you once wrote.

    I suppose this is as good a time to ask as any.

    I do not recall SS writing for NR regularly. He probably had better pay and a bigger audience working at UPI.

  210. @TWS
    Pod the Lesser has to know he's a joke and an old one at that. He's like something out of the onion blundering clueless from one outrage in his own mind to another.

    Pod the Lesser, Kristol the Lesser, and Sulzberger the Lesser have certainly fallen short of their paternal forebears…

    • Agree: TWS
  211. @the cruncher
    /pol/:

    http://imgur.com/a/CV45h

    The most famous, and popular, is 4chan's:

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/catalog

    It's more free-wheeling and tolerant of fun, gets more traffic, probably half the population is non-white, though you wouldn't think it.

    Less famous and less populated, the more hardcore 8ch(an):

    https://8ch.net/pol/catalog.html

    ... 'nazis' split off from 4chan over ideology. I mention them because they're more effective at scheming and autistically putting together photos to dox people.

    People go back and forth, from 8ch for plans, to 4chan to recruit help (mostly). When people want to scheme privately, they'll open a 'discord', a free, all-purpose live communication platform originally developed for gamers.

    Pretty awesome. Two websites devoted to redpilling members.

  212. If it hasn’t been mentioned, this is from wiki:

    At The Weekly Standard, one staff member said, Podhoretz’s “arrogance and egotism had a psychological effect people can’t quite believe.” At The Washington Times a colleague reported, he was “permanently frozen in juvenalia.” Glenn Garvin, the Central American bureau chief of the Miami Herald, once said that at the Times, Podhoretz “constantly complained that his brilliance wasn’t appreciated.”

    Explains a lot. Steve’s comment was hyper-funny…doubleplus-funny. When you can’t one-up him, you vilify him, I guess (if you’re all the things listed in the above quote.)

  213. @Opinionator
    I almost feel sorry for Podhoretz. It would be interesting to force him to engage in reasoned argument and not let the dialogue default to name calling back and forth.

    No reason to feel sorry. Those that deal in name-calling do so because it’s their default condition–they don’t know how to engage in reasoned argument.

  214. My favorite was J-Pod’s response to the Corey Lewandowski/Michelle Fields arm grab. The first time I ever saw a pundit resort to apoplectic screaming on Twitter.

  215. He’s having a spittle -flecked nutty. (Sputter,sputter) Jewish isn’t a race, but you’re racist filth for noticing we actually are!

    He really ought to make his precious aliyah and he won’t have to be bothered with us dumb goys anymore.

  216. @Carneades
    Someone has to keep the boat from drifting away.

    “Whoah there, Cochise! Thanks for the lift, and for your service; from here, though, I’ll get my family ashore; you can stay with the boat and continue your good work. I’ll come back to help once I’ve seen to my own family’s safety….”

    Those words, or something to that effect, would be the appropriate speech made before carrying one’s family ashore and leaving the soldier (with due gratitude) to the boat.

    May be your (astute) point is that nowadays all too many such people instead twiddle their thumbs and wait for “the experts” or “the authorities” to tell them what to do or to do eveything for them, taking deference and inaction to a whole new level….

  217. @Expletive Deleted
    Nope, that's another cajun matelot and his copain making sure boaty doesn't go byebyes while his oppo finds his feet and gets the cargo ashore. Hubby was deliberately cropped out of the pic, he's a few feet in front i.e. to the left, and as Diverse as her. Daintily carrying a nice pair of red&white trainers (Size XLish, so unlikely hers) in front of him like they were the Crown Jewels. Don't worry, it's the Asian Way, wifey won't see anything amiss.

    Ah. Everything is illuminated.

  218. @Peripatetic commenter
    I notice that you didn't answer the question:

    What intellectual idea, trope, or theme is he known for creating?
     
    So, I guess we can assume that he is not known for anything important, like, say: Make America Great Again.

    I notice that you didn’t answer the question:

    No, you didn’t digest the answer I gave him. His original work is incorporated in his doctoral dissertation. It was never published and I haven’t read it. If you want to read it, go to a university library where you have borrowing privileges and place an inter-library loan request for it. They can obtain a microfilm or digital copy. (UMI used to produce these. UMI was then bought by ProQuest).

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    OK, curiosity piqued, I went looking, and I confess, I wasn't expecting that much, and I found more than what I expected to find.

    I'm not an academic in this field, so who knows if I found the best of what he published, but just blowing smoke, it seems like Kristol did "OK" in publishing more than just his dissertation...

    All or most of his most-cited pieces, however, seem to be co-authored with Robert Kagan or Steven Lenzner. His sole-authored pieces seem less influential.

    Maybe, sans family connections, enough to make Associate Professor [tenured] at Illinois State? Or did he have a connection at the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy? I don't know.

    In brackets, I'll put the number of times each article was cited, per Google Scholar. I might have missed some.



    [30]
    "Term Limitations: Breaking Up the Iron Triangle"
    16 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol'y 95 (1993)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp16&div=21&id=&page=

    [8]
    "Equal Protection Doctrine: Foundations in Mud"
    9 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol'y 35 (1986)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp9&div=13&id=&page=

    [6]
    "The Judiciary: Conservatism's Lost Branch"
    17 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol'y 131 (1994)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp17&div=27&id=&page=

    [4]
    Book review: "The Heavenly City of Post-Constitutional Constitutional Theory"
    The University of Chicago Law Review, 1 January 1984, Vol.51(1), pp.315-326
    http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4362&context=uclrev

    [2]
    "Liberty, Equality, Honor."
    Social Philosophy and Policy, 2(1), 125-140.
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/social-philosophy-and-policy/article/liberty-equality-honor/A9BC105898CD4E5CD67C49DE228827B5

    [0]
    PhD Thesis
    "The American judicial power and the American regime"
    https://search.proquest.com/docview/302900859/

    Undergrad thesis:
    "Americans and Indians in Democracy in America"
    http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/003874848/catalog
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now? What ideas? What distinctive cutting edge new ways of thinking like say, Richard Spencer coining the term "Alt-Right" has Kristol come up with in 25-30yrs since Harvard? Not a hard question and still no answer for it. Richard Spencer may be quite polarizing, but oftentimes people with unique innovative distinctive new thoughts/ideas are that way.

    The fact that you or anyone else can't answer the question answers the question: Nothing.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.


    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now? What ideas? What distinctive cutting edge new ways of thinking like say, Richard Spencer coining the term "Alt-Right" has Kristol come up with in 25-30yrs since Harvard? Not a hard question and still no answer for it. Richard Spencer may be quite polarizing, but oftentimes people with unique innovative distinctive new thoughts/ideas are that way.

    The fact that you or anyone else can't answer the question answers the question: Nothing.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Why don't you just do it for him. You are a university librarian, are you not?
  219. The three things I associate with John Podhoretz are
    media nepotism for talentless inheritors (his parents were significant contributors to conservative editorial writing in the boomer era),
    his advocacy for the Iraq War (always remember that beating up an Arab was only a side benefit: the main purpose was “self”-destruction, like hypnotizing a confident boxer into putting his hands through plate glass),
    and his disturbing and pornographic hate valentine to Joseph Kennedy, in which (with many uses of “Oh, yesssss”) he argues that the Kennedies deserved all their deliciousss tragedies because one of them had collaborated with Hitler. It has to be read to be believed. You have to wonder if something like that would have been published its author had a different pedigree.
    But this is a funny thing. Getting called a Nazi is what happens to everyone who didn’t have a Stronger With Her sign in their yard, with the result that people care less about getting called a Nazi; getting called a racist is inevitable but equally meaningless for those who insist on noticing patterns and comprehending statistics. But here John Podhoretz is defending the Weinsteins, over-the-top extremists with a penchant for lying, and an ideological stamp quite different from Podhoretz’s. One has to wonder whether the Weinsteins would defend Podhoretz if things were different. I am certain that they have attacked people of his political stripe if they haven’t attacked him specifically. And when I saw the headline, I assumed Podhoretz was reacting to some hatefact or the bit about runaway immigration covering absorbent prairie with concrete, not a silly photo joke.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    I had to look up that Joseph Kennedy thing too. Unbelievable.

    I can't quite believe that pre-internet, people like this were granted the monopoly of the Respectable Media Megaphone. Explains a lot, actually...


    http://nypost.com/1999/07/21/a-conversation-in-hell/
    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/395/
    , @Carneades

    (his parents were significant contributors to conservative editorial writing in the boomer era)
     
    Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter were intellectual movers and shakers when the "boomers" were still in grade school. He was editor-in-chief of Commentary starting in 1960 and she was executive editor of Harper's Magazine. The neocon movement was started by the WWII and not-so-Silent generation New York intelligentsia.
  220. @Carneades
    Don't you mean "newly bourgeois Ashkenazi Jews?"

    No. I mean bourgeois Jews. The best example I can think of was a married couple in my parents’ circle. She was born into a bourgeois (German Jewish) family and he into a striving Russian Jewish family. She was of the middle-classes and always had been. Like many married couples, he relied on her in social situations to do the talking. They were about 10 years younger than my grandparents. The wife in particular had a radically different sensibility than did my grandmother.

  221. @GregMan
    Somebody better save that original photo before it gets memory-holed for showing a white man in a good light.

    There is nothing wrong in showing white men in good light when indeed they are…

  222. @Broski

    Wm. Kristol has a Harvard doctorate and is much more extensively educated than his father was. His father was an editor, not an exceptional producer of original content. Kristol eschewed building the academic career his mother did for whatever reason, but it’s a stretch to say he was not suitable for one.

     

    Yeah, well, the enemies of truth are right about one thing: there is a lot more to talent than IQ. And if you think a Harvard doctorate means much, you haven't been paying attention lately. That brand is going down faster than the Ford Pinto.

    And if you think a Harvard doctorate means much, you haven’t been paying attention lately. That brand is going down faster than the Ford Pinto.

    Fine. Tell Ron Unz he can quit bickering with Dr. Martz and Nurit Baytch about the numbers because none of it matters.

  223. @Steve Sailer
    "For years you’ve been blaming John Podhoretz for having you been kicked out of NR."

    I don't recall saying that.

    I think this is the picture. I don’t know if it was edited but it shows the husband carrying his Nikes while the person with white privilege carries the wife and child.

    • Replies: @AM
    I was wondering where the husband was. Yeah, much less iconic with the full picture.
    , @Carneades
    Looks like a golf bag to me. First things first after all.
    , @Hibernian
    Are you sure the guy with the Nikes is the husband? Another guy I thought might be the husband was on the right of another version of the picture, standing and watching, and he was not the same guy. Could the Nikes guy be a volunteer or a neighbor?
  224. @Art Deco
    I notice that you didn’t answer the question:

    No, you didn't digest the answer I gave him. His original work is incorporated in his doctoral dissertation. It was never published and I haven't read it. If you want to read it, go to a university library where you have borrowing privileges and place an inter-library loan request for it. They can obtain a microfilm or digital copy. (UMI used to produce these. UMI was then bought by ProQuest).

    OK, curiosity piqued, I went looking, and I confess, I wasn’t expecting that much, and I found more than what I expected to find.

    I’m not an academic in this field, so who knows if I found the best of what he published, but just blowing smoke, it seems like Kristol did “OK” in publishing more than just his dissertation…

    All or most of his most-cited pieces, however, seem to be co-authored with Robert Kagan or Steven Lenzner. His sole-authored pieces seem less influential.

    Maybe, sans family connections, enough to make Associate Professor [tenured] at Illinois State? Or did he have a connection at the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy? I don’t know.

    In brackets, I’ll put the number of times each article was cited, per Google Scholar. I might have missed some.

    [MORE]

    [30]
    “Term Limitations: Breaking Up the Iron Triangle”
    16 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol’y 95 (1993)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp16&div=21&id=&page=

    [8]
    “Equal Protection Doctrine: Foundations in Mud”
    9 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol’y 35 (1986)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp9&div=13&id=&page=

    [6]
    “The Judiciary: Conservatism’s Lost Branch”
    17 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol’y 131 (1994)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp17&div=27&id=&page=

    [4]
    Book review: “The Heavenly City of Post-Constitutional Constitutional Theory”
    The University of Chicago Law Review, 1 January 1984, Vol.51(1), pp.315-326
    http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4362&context=uclrev

    [2]
    “Liberty, Equality, Honor.”
    Social Philosophy and Policy, 2(1), 125-140.
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/social-philosophy-and-policy/article/liberty-equality-honor/A9BC105898CD4E5CD67C49DE228827B5

    [0]
    PhD Thesis
    “The American judicial power and the American regime”
    https://search.proquest.com/docview/302900859/

    Undergrad thesis:
    “Americans and Indians in Democracy in America”
    http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/003874848/catalog

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    It's not uncommon for a man who has some some talent for prolonged thinking to slowly lose it over the years as he succeeds in a career requiring instant opinionizing. For example, I doubt if Oliver Stone or Sylvester Stallone could these days sit down and write a screenplay of the quality that got them noticed back in the 1970s
  225. @Danindc
    Exactly. Not sure if I've ever seen comments a blue-checked twitter feed run so badly against that person. That really has to bother that psycho.

    I just checked the replies again. You’re right – ouch, that’s gotta hurt.

    And someone posted a link to this profile, which frankly just makes him seem really sad and pathetic.

    http://nymag.com/nymag/features/1968/index1.html

    [MORE]

    Before his exit, Podhoretz exhibited a certain status anxiety in a more flamboyant way. He complained obsessively when he found out Fred Barnes’s office would be bigger than his. He insisted his secretary have a wall around her office so no one would read his mail. Once, at a meeting, an assistant tried to teach the staff how to transfer calls, and Podhoretz barked, “Bill Kristol and I don’t transfer calls.”

    His “arrogance and egotism had a psychological effect people can’t quite believe,” says one staff member. He treated his favorites well; but others he alienated so much that they will never write for the magazine again.

    Podhoretz blames his reputation on Lisa McCormack, one of the writers at the Washington Times he liked least. But after about twenty interviews with many people who’ve worked with Podhoretz over the years, it’s clear McCormack is just one of the few brave enough to speak. “If you misplaced a comma, he would tell you you were a no-talent dirtball,” McCormack says. “He was even mean to interns.” Among the staff, she has earned the half-joking nickname Elie Wiesel, for speaking up for the victims.

    At the Times, Podhoretz was “permanently frozen in juvenilia,” as one older writer put it — working with writers sometimes twice his age, and resenting it. When a writer would challenge Podhoretz, he would say, “I’ve worked for six magazines; how many have you worked for?” recall writers on the staff. “There was an enormous gap between the power he had and his view of himself,” says a former colleague.

    One other person spoke on the record. The Miami Herald’s Central American bureau chief, Glenn Garvin, was at first friends with Podhoretz when he was at the Times, but “ultimately his astounding self-centeredness made it difficult to maintain a friendship,” says Garvin. (Podhoretz once talked for twenty minutes at an editorial meeting about when he might get his own private office.) “On the subject of himself, he has no sense of humor,” says Garvin. He recalls seeing a letter Podhoretz wrote to the University of Chicago saying he would no longer support the institution because it had failed to mention the conservative college newspaper he founded in a fund-raising letter. “Almost everybody, friend and foe, thought he was full of himself,” says Garvin. “He continuously complained that his brilliance wasn’t appreciated.”

  226. @J.Ross
    The three things I associate with John Podhoretz are
    media nepotism for talentless inheritors (his parents were significant contributors to conservative editorial writing in the boomer era),
    his advocacy for the Iraq War (always remember that beating up an Arab was only a side benefit: the main purpose was "self"-destruction, like hypnotizing a confident boxer into putting his hands through plate glass),
    and his disturbing and pornographic hate valentine to Joseph Kennedy, in which (with many uses of "Oh, yesssss") he argues that the Kennedies deserved all their deliciousss tragedies because one of them had collaborated with Hitler. It has to be read to be believed. You have to wonder if something like that would have been published its author had a different pedigree.
    But this is a funny thing. Getting called a Nazi is what happens to everyone who didn't have a Stronger With Her sign in their yard, with the result that people care less about getting called a Nazi; getting called a racist is inevitable but equally meaningless for those who insist on noticing patterns and comprehending statistics. But here John Podhoretz is defending the Weinsteins, over-the-top extremists with a penchant for lying, and an ideological stamp quite different from Podhoretz's. One has to wonder whether the Weinsteins would defend Podhoretz if things were different. I am certain that they have attacked people of his political stripe if they haven't attacked him specifically. And when I saw the headline, I assumed Podhoretz was reacting to some hatefact or the bit about runaway immigration covering absorbent prairie with concrete, not a silly photo joke.

    I had to look up that Joseph Kennedy thing too. Unbelievable.

    I can’t quite believe that pre-internet, people like this were granted the monopoly of the Respectable Media Megaphone. Explains a lot, actually…

    http://nypost.com/1999/07/21/a-conversation-in-hell/
    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/395/

  227. @benjaminl
    OK, curiosity piqued, I went looking, and I confess, I wasn't expecting that much, and I found more than what I expected to find.

    I'm not an academic in this field, so who knows if I found the best of what he published, but just blowing smoke, it seems like Kristol did "OK" in publishing more than just his dissertation...

    All or most of his most-cited pieces, however, seem to be co-authored with Robert Kagan or Steven Lenzner. His sole-authored pieces seem less influential.

    Maybe, sans family connections, enough to make Associate Professor [tenured] at Illinois State? Or did he have a connection at the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy? I don't know.

    In brackets, I'll put the number of times each article was cited, per Google Scholar. I might have missed some.



    [30]
    "Term Limitations: Breaking Up the Iron Triangle"
    16 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol'y 95 (1993)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp16&div=21&id=&page=

    [8]
    "Equal Protection Doctrine: Foundations in Mud"
    9 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol'y 35 (1986)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp9&div=13&id=&page=

    [6]
    "The Judiciary: Conservatism's Lost Branch"
    17 Harv. J. L. & Pub. Pol'y 131 (1994)
    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/hjlpp17&div=27&id=&page=

    [4]
    Book review: "The Heavenly City of Post-Constitutional Constitutional Theory"
    The University of Chicago Law Review, 1 January 1984, Vol.51(1), pp.315-326
    http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4362&context=uclrev

    [2]
    "Liberty, Equality, Honor."
    Social Philosophy and Policy, 2(1), 125-140.
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/social-philosophy-and-policy/article/liberty-equality-honor/A9BC105898CD4E5CD67C49DE228827B5

    [0]
    PhD Thesis
    "The American judicial power and the American regime"
    https://search.proquest.com/docview/302900859/

    Undergrad thesis:
    "Americans and Indians in Democracy in America"
    http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/003874848/catalog

    It’s not uncommon for a man who has some some talent for prolonged thinking to slowly lose it over the years as he succeeds in a career requiring instant opinionizing. For example, I doubt if Oliver Stone or Sylvester Stallone could these days sit down and write a screenplay of the quality that got them noticed back in the 1970s

    • Replies: @AM

    For example, I doubt if Oliver Stone or Sylvester Stallone could these days sit down and write a screenplay of the quality that got them noticed back in the 1970s
     
    It's the Lucas syndrome.Almost every Boomer artist, who often did wonderful work in the late 1970's through early 1990's, have pretty much gone to the dogs as they became famous and rich. Modern media is not a complete wasteland, but movies are nothing like back then.
    , @Desiderius
    Sharing a show with Fred Barnes all those years couldn't have helped.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Writing is also hard work. Just checking IMDB, Matt Damon has 2 writing credits since Good Will Hunting, versus 77 acting credits. Even getting a screenwriting Oscar out of the gate didn't encourage him to write more when he can get paid to act.
  228. @newrouter
    jpod clown.

    over here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq2jhs19_V8

    Thanks for that memory of Joni, Newrouter. It’s not a memory for me of the time she sang this, more of when I listened to this album “Blue” in the 1990’s. She had a great voice, and some good melodies, but why did she have to always write the lyrics first and then try, come hell or high water, to fit them all into whatever tune she had?

    What this song has to do with the post, I have no earthly idea, but I’d be glad if you could explain it.

  229. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I quit reading NR after their "Against Trump" issue, and never did read Commentary.

    I quit reading NR when Buckley fired Joe Sobran in 1993.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    I was younger and had just discovered NR in 1993, but I quit after they defenestrated Derb. His column The Straggler was the only thing I was teading consistently anyways.
  230. @Art Deco
    Men like his father built up a tremendous reservoir of goodwill. It was that goodwill that made racism and anti-semitism something that respectable people take care to avoid.

    This remark doesn't make much sense to me. Kristol is best known as a purveyor of general audience literature which shamed the red-haze into silence for the better part of a generation and later as one who got critiques of liberal social policy into circulation among people who had influence but couldn't handle academic literature in economics or technical sociology.

    If the story of my relatives is representative, anti-semitism as practiced (what was called 'the five o'clock shadow') dissipated during the first 20 years after the war because it was awkward and the up-and-coming generation just couldn't see the point of it. (These arguments played out between my mother and her parents). To some extent, the distinction in manners between bourgeois Jews and bourgeois non-ethnics of my grandparents generation could be quite stark and even in my parents' generation was still noticeable. Observers of Robert Oppenheimer and Lionel Trilling thought both men played against type self-consciously.

    If the story of my relatives is representative, anti-semitism as practiced (what was called ‘the five o’clock shadow’) dissipated during the first 20 years after the war because it was awkward and the up-and-coming generation just couldn’t see the point of it.

    They could see the point, in part because I think American Jews of that era made a point to not be John Podhoretz. Relationships with other people and groups are 2 way streets. There was gratitude to American Christian soldiers, the society in which they lived, and a sense of shared experiences.

    Of course there were fallen humans and all the rest. But generations have characteristics. My personal “first” encounter with American Jewish culture was Mel Brooks, in Spaceballs. Pretty good PR , I think. A Jewish guy making fun of himself – one of the better aspects shining through.

    But if that first encounter had been JPod, if any criticism of globalism results in “antisemite” I would have considered developing a 5 o’clock shadow myself. We’re at collective overload with the Holocaust and the JQ. The Boomer Jews (like Boomer Christians) don’t seem to wonders in self restraint and the damage is growing. That’s how this stuff develops, unfortunately, for any group on the planet.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    But if that first encounter had been JPod,

    He's a media figure, not someone you know personally. People have offered here several quotations here from this person and that person (or anonymous source) who contend he's unlikable face-to-face. That he may be. It's not as if that's all that unusual in this world.



    because I think American Jews of that era made a point to not be John Podhoretz.

    Me: Mrs. Teitelbaum, were you making it a point to not be John Podhoretz?

    Mrs. T: What?
  231. @Steve Sailer
    It's not uncommon for a man who has some some talent for prolonged thinking to slowly lose it over the years as he succeeds in a career requiring instant opinionizing. For example, I doubt if Oliver Stone or Sylvester Stallone could these days sit down and write a screenplay of the quality that got them noticed back in the 1970s

    For example, I doubt if Oliver Stone or Sylvester Stallone could these days sit down and write a screenplay of the quality that got them noticed back in the 1970s

    It’s the Lucas syndrome.Almost every Boomer artist, who often did wonderful work in the late 1970’s through early 1990’s, have pretty much gone to the dogs as they became famous and rich. Modern media is not a complete wasteland, but movies are nothing like back then.

    • Replies: @Benjamin
    Their syndrome is "No one can say No to me"
  232. @Sean C
    I think this is the picture. I don't know if it was edited but it shows the husband carrying his Nikes while the person with white privilege carries the wife and child.

    https://kek.gg/i/d2tXS.jpeg

    I was wondering where the husband was. Yeah, much less iconic with the full picture.

  233. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I quit reading NR after their "Against Trump" issue, and never did read Commentary.

    I quit reading NR after their “Against Trump” issue, and never did read Commentary.

    I quit reading when I got banned under the old comment system for “badthink” of saying maybe there are points that white nationalists have that we need to think about, even if we don’t agree.

    NR is really scary place in terms of group think. I don’t really think of them as conservative anymore. Just liberals who like how standing in a church each Sunday makes them feel and money.

  234. @J.Ross
    The three things I associate with John Podhoretz are
    media nepotism for talentless inheritors (his parents were significant contributors to conservative editorial writing in the boomer era),
    his advocacy for the Iraq War (always remember that beating up an Arab was only a side benefit: the main purpose was "self"-destruction, like hypnotizing a confident boxer into putting his hands through plate glass),
    and his disturbing and pornographic hate valentine to Joseph Kennedy, in which (with many uses of "Oh, yesssss") he argues that the Kennedies deserved all their deliciousss tragedies because one of them had collaborated with Hitler. It has to be read to be believed. You have to wonder if something like that would have been published its author had a different pedigree.
    But this is a funny thing. Getting called a Nazi is what happens to everyone who didn't have a Stronger With Her sign in their yard, with the result that people care less about getting called a Nazi; getting called a racist is inevitable but equally meaningless for those who insist on noticing patterns and comprehending statistics. But here John Podhoretz is defending the Weinsteins, over-the-top extremists with a penchant for lying, and an ideological stamp quite different from Podhoretz's. One has to wonder whether the Weinsteins would defend Podhoretz if things were different. I am certain that they have attacked people of his political stripe if they haven't attacked him specifically. And when I saw the headline, I assumed Podhoretz was reacting to some hatefact or the bit about runaway immigration covering absorbent prairie with concrete, not a silly photo joke.

    (his parents were significant contributors to conservative editorial writing in the boomer era)

    Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter were intellectual movers and shakers when the “boomers” were still in grade school. He was editor-in-chief of Commentary starting in 1960 and she was executive editor of Harper’s Magazine. The neocon movement was started by the WWII and not-so-Silent generation New York intelligentsia.

  235. @Sean C
    I think this is the picture. I don't know if it was edited but it shows the husband carrying his Nikes while the person with white privilege carries the wife and child.

    https://kek.gg/i/d2tXS.jpeg

    Looks like a golf bag to me. First things first after all.

  236. JPod’s not well read about Mr. Sailer. On other websites, Steve Sailer is considered a shabbas goy.

  237. @Art Deco
    Men like his father built up a tremendous reservoir of goodwill. It was that goodwill that made racism and anti-semitism something that respectable people take care to avoid.

    This remark doesn't make much sense to me. Kristol is best known as a purveyor of general audience literature which shamed the red-haze into silence for the better part of a generation and later as one who got critiques of liberal social policy into circulation among people who had influence but couldn't handle academic literature in economics or technical sociology.

    If the story of my relatives is representative, anti-semitism as practiced (what was called 'the five o'clock shadow') dissipated during the first 20 years after the war because it was awkward and the up-and-coming generation just couldn't see the point of it. (These arguments played out between my mother and her parents). To some extent, the distinction in manners between bourgeois Jews and bourgeois non-ethnics of my grandparents generation could be quite stark and even in my parents' generation was still noticeable. Observers of Robert Oppenheimer and Lionel Trilling thought both men played against type self-consciously.

    Kristol is best known as a purveyor of general audience literature which shamed the red-haze into silence for the better part of a generation and later as one who got critiques of liberal social policy into circulation among people who had influence but couldn’t handle academic literature in economics or technical sociology.

    As if we weren’t dying for just that right now.

    Hugely valuable contribution, hugely appreciated. That appreciation rubbed off on his people and class.

    They’ve gone (way) downhill since.

    • Replies: @Carneades
    Kristol has been terrible since forever. War-mongering neocons of his ilk got in the way of Reagan's goals when initiating the START process, their hawkish lies had us invade Iraq for no reason, be bogged down in Afghanistan for 16 years to what purpose it is hard to see, de-stabilized Egypt, brought anarchy to Libya, has us illegally invading Syria, tweaking the nose of the Russian bear by fomenting a coup in the Ukraine despite the fact that Russia is improving its economic relations with Germany as the second gas pipeline attests to, sending special forces and drone strikes hither and yon, and pathetically trying to meddle in the Far East with absurdly expensive aircraft carriers that will be resting at the bottom of the China Sea faster than you can say Jack Robinson if we put a foot wrong.

    We are left saddled with an oppressive trillion plus dollars per year military/police state for the benefit of greedy and corrupt defense contractors, commercial importers of cheap labor, and the insidious Jewish lobby dominating the various media organs of propaganda who act as a fifth column supporting the ethnic cleansing of Arabs by a vicious race-based theocracy ruling over Palestine.
  238. @Steve Sailer
    It's not uncommon for a man who has some some talent for prolonged thinking to slowly lose it over the years as he succeeds in a career requiring instant opinionizing. For example, I doubt if Oliver Stone or Sylvester Stallone could these days sit down and write a screenplay of the quality that got them noticed back in the 1970s

    Sharing a show with Fred Barnes all those years couldn’t have helped.

  239. @BenKenobi
    If Steve can be infected, we will
    achieve The Man in the High Tower within about 6 months.

    I thought that The Man in the High, ahem, Castle was somewhat ridiculous at first, but I’ve wised up and was thinking what kind of book Steve could put together so that he can achieve that elite status. “Why surly someone who had written such an injurious piece of truth is hiding behind twenty foot walls lined with concertina wire!”

    I dunno, maybe he already has.

  240. @Dmitry134564
    The tweet wasn't racist, but you do have an obsession with race on this blog.

    Wake up. There is no bigger issue in the MSM than race. It’s bigger than sex and money, which means someone important wants us to be discussing it at this point in history.

    On the other hand, maybe that’s the point. Is the national race “obsession” merely a creation of the deep state designed to deflect attention from the coming collapse? Hmmm.

  241. @Autochthon
    Whoah! Is that really the woman's husband standing around like a jackass in the background while another man carries his wife and child to safety?! If that be so, then unless the husband has some latent injury (a really bad back?), then there are no words....

    No, that is not her husband.

  242. @Desiderius

    Kristol is best known as a purveyor of general audience literature which shamed the red-haze into silence for the better part of a generation and later as one who got critiques of liberal social policy into circulation among people who had influence but couldn’t handle academic literature in economics or technical sociology.
     
    As if we weren't dying for just that right now.

    Hugely valuable contribution, hugely appreciated. That appreciation rubbed off on his people and class.

    They've gone (way) downhill since.

    Kristol has been terrible since forever. War-mongering neocons of his ilk got in the way of Reagan’s goals when initiating the START process, their hawkish lies had us invade Iraq for no reason, be bogged down in Afghanistan for 16 years to what purpose it is hard to see, de-stabilized Egypt, brought anarchy to Libya, has us illegally invading Syria, tweaking the nose of the Russian bear by fomenting a coup in the Ukraine despite the fact that Russia is improving its economic relations with Germany as the second gas pipeline attests to, sending special forces and drone strikes hither and yon, and pathetically trying to meddle in the Far East with absurdly expensive aircraft carriers that will be resting at the bottom of the China Sea faster than you can say Jack Robinson if we put a foot wrong.

    We are left saddled with an oppressive trillion plus dollars per year military/police state for the benefit of greedy and corrupt defense contractors, commercial importers of cheap labor, and the insidious Jewish lobby dominating the various media organs of propaganda who act as a fifth column supporting the ethnic cleansing of Arabs by a vicious race-based theocracy ruling over Palestine.

  243. @benjaminl
    Per published captions, the rescuer is Daryl Hudeck, and the rescuee is Catherine Pham and child (i.e. Southeast Asian).

    Outside of this particular corner of commentary, the big controversy about this picture was when blogger Matt Walsh made a commonsensical observation:

    "Woman cradles and protects child. Man carries and protects both. This is how it ought to be, despite what your gender studies professor says."

    https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/902179828891353089

    And lo, the wrath of the harpies did descend upon him. Out of the many pointings and shriekings, the official curators of Twitter instructed Tweeters to read the Tweet thread by Christina Wolbrecht, whom they identified as a "Real Professor," explaining interminably why Walsh's Tweet was Problematic.

    “And lo the wrath of the harpies”

    Wait till the harpies need to be carried out of a flood.

    • Replies: @guest
    Don't harpies have wings? Dirty, greasy wings?
  244. @ScarletNumber
    I would think he was calling our Steve repellent.

    I think what John Podhorrtz was saying about Steve Sailrr was extrrmely obvious. I don’t know how anyone could evrr not undrrstand it.

  245. @Art Deco
    I notice that you didn’t answer the question:

    No, you didn't digest the answer I gave him. His original work is incorporated in his doctoral dissertation. It was never published and I haven't read it. If you want to read it, go to a university library where you have borrowing privileges and place an inter-library loan request for it. They can obtain a microfilm or digital copy. (UMI used to produce these. UMI was then bought by ProQuest).

    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now? What ideas? What distinctive cutting edge new ways of thinking like say, Richard Spencer coining the term “Alt-Right” has Kristol come up with in 25-30yrs since Harvard? Not a hard question and still no answer for it. Richard Spencer may be quite polarizing, but oftentimes people with unique innovative distinctive new thoughts/ideas are that way.

    The fact that you or anyone else can’t answer the question answers the question: Nothing.

    • Replies: @Anon
    You're arguing with a sentient bot.
    , @Ron Unz

    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now?
     
    Well, I just fixed a crucial bug, and the title and traffic of this particular post caught my eye, so I took a look and might as well provide my own perspective...

    For about a decade, from the early 1990s to the early 2000s I was on quite friendly terms with the Neocons, including many of the prominent ones under discussion. Overall, I think I must have spent at least a couple of hundred hours talking/meeting with them, or attending their various events.

    However, I have to say that during all that time interacting with them, I'm not sure I can recall a single case of even one of them saying something that I regarded as notably interesting, creative, or intelligent. Basically, they're just a bunch of rather mediocre political-intellectual apparatchiks, not too different from the sort that probably infested the late USSR. But my impression is that most DC policy-people fall into roughly this same category.

    A very important distinction must be drawn between these "Neocons" and the "Elder Neocons", who were totally different in their intellectual talents, achievements, and even areas of interest...
    , @Opinionator
    Spencer did not coin the term "Alt Right." First, he was not the one who came up with that specific term. Second, and more crucially, whatever term he may have used way back when did not refer to the energetic and talented intellectual movement that came to fruition in the last 3-4 years, and which after some debate ended up labeling itself the "Alt Right."

    Spencer is shameless in trying to hitch a ride on their creative output. He has no business representing himself to the media as a leader of the Alt Right.

  246. @Art Deco
    I notice that you didn’t answer the question:

    No, you didn't digest the answer I gave him. His original work is incorporated in his doctoral dissertation. It was never published and I haven't read it. If you want to read it, go to a university library where you have borrowing privileges and place an inter-library loan request for it. They can obtain a microfilm or digital copy. (UMI used to produce these. UMI was then bought by ProQuest).

    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now? What ideas? What distinctive cutting edge new ways of thinking like say, Richard Spencer coining the term “Alt-Right” has Kristol come up with in 25-30yrs since Harvard? Not a hard question and still no answer for it. Richard Spencer may be quite polarizing, but oftentimes people with unique innovative distinctive new thoughts/ideas are that way.

    The fact that you or anyone else can’t answer the question answers the question: Nothing.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.
  247. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I thoroughly avoid all things Hollywood, including TV. So a decent proportion of what Mr. Sailer addresses goes right over my head. But for some reason I clicked to and read the interview of Mr. Weinstein, of whom I had never even heard. Ugh.

    [portion of interview follows]

    There are a lot of projects about the election and the aftermath in the works. Is the subject matter of interest to you?

    No, not in television. I think MSNBC and CNN are doing a much better job than I can do. There’s no TV that can out-do Mika Brzezinski [of Morning Joe]. She is my all-time idol. I’m watching Joe Scarborough step up to the plate, but Mika kills it. She’s just laying the law down in a way I’ve never seen. I get up at 6 in the morning for her. I always used to stay up late watching old movies; Now I say, “All right, I’d better not stay up that late, I’ve got to watch Mika.”

    You had said that you were going to give President Trump a chance. Is that still the case?

    The less said, the better. Among the things I’m doing: a private foundation. I just named it the Miriam Foundation after my mom [who died in November], and I’m raising all the money. We’re going to support [everything] from LGBT to women’s rights, more women directors, the National Endowment of the Arts. I’m going to finance a lot of it privately.

    Malia Obama is working for you. What conversations with her parents led up to her internship?

    (Shakes his head no.)

    [end of interview portion]

    Why ordinary folks spend their time and money supporting those who think of themselves in such terms, yet produce so little that is worthwhile, is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    " I think MSNBC and CNN are doing a much better job than I can do. There's no TV that can out-do Mika Brzezinski ( of Morning joe ).

    If you can make any kind of rational sense out of her madness well this simply means that you are existing in a totally different ( bonkers) universe than I am.

    Look leftists are all insane and this fact is finally being recognized by John Doe, after decades of considering them to just be holding "Different" opinions.

    Authenticjazzman " Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz musician.
  248. @Broski
    For some inexplicable reason I'm still using google, and it's findable there: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/.

    Broski – Thanks. One of the previous commenters mentioned where it could be found.

  249. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now? What ideas? What distinctive cutting edge new ways of thinking like say, Richard Spencer coining the term "Alt-Right" has Kristol come up with in 25-30yrs since Harvard? Not a hard question and still no answer for it. Richard Spencer may be quite polarizing, but oftentimes people with unique innovative distinctive new thoughts/ideas are that way.

    The fact that you or anyone else can't answer the question answers the question: Nothing.

    You’re arguing with a sentient bot.

  250. @Jack D
    It's kind of hard to tell from the photoshop, especially if you haven't seen the original photo.

    In the original, a big strong white guy is carrying a small Latino looking woman with a baby out of the flood.

    It the photo shop, it's vice versa.

    She doesn’t look “Latino” [sic]. Get your eyes checked.

  251. Jealousy is big time of solving problems….getting in the way….oops.

  252. @Steve Sailer
    It's not uncommon for a man who has some some talent for prolonged thinking to slowly lose it over the years as he succeeds in a career requiring instant opinionizing. For example, I doubt if Oliver Stone or Sylvester Stallone could these days sit down and write a screenplay of the quality that got them noticed back in the 1970s

    Writing is also hard work. Just checking IMDB, Matt Damon has 2 writing credits since Good Will Hunting, versus 77 acting credits. Even getting a screenwriting Oscar out of the gate didn’t encourage him to write more when he can get paid to act.

  253. @jimmyriddle
    JPod has been known to notice things himself:


    "Two ideas puzzled me deeply as a child growing up in Brooklyn during the 1930’s in what today would be called an integrated neighborhood. One of them was that all Jews were rich; the other was that all Negroes were persecuted. These ideas had appeared in print; therefore they must be true. My own experience and the evidence of my senses told me they were not true....."

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

    That’s the sort of mild Noticing that led to neoconservatism. Some Jews and others (mostly former commies) realized they went a little too far championing the civil rights movement as the be-all, end-all of race politics. Blacks were never going to be the New Jews. (They wouldn’t want blacks to be that, anyway, because there’s only so much money and power to go around, amiright?)

    Well, that and disgust at dirty hippies. The New Left cracked up the Liberal Consensus, and right when Israel needed our empire to help it fight uppity A-rabs and such.

    The rest of their Noticing was a series of cracks in the liberal facade, many of them from the social sciences (though not biology) to justify carving out their own thing.

    Pod the Younger has nowhere to carve.

  254. @Sayless
    "And lo the wrath of the harpies"

    Wait till the harpies need to be carried out of a flood.

    Don’t harpies have wings? Dirty, greasy wings?

  255. @AM

    For example, I doubt if Oliver Stone or Sylvester Stallone could these days sit down and write a screenplay of the quality that got them noticed back in the 1970s
     
    It's the Lucas syndrome.Almost every Boomer artist, who often did wonderful work in the late 1970's through early 1990's, have pretty much gone to the dogs as they became famous and rich. Modern media is not a complete wasteland, but movies are nothing like back then.

    Their syndrome is “No one can say No to me”

  256. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now? What ideas? What distinctive cutting edge new ways of thinking like say, Richard Spencer coining the term "Alt-Right" has Kristol come up with in 25-30yrs since Harvard? Not a hard question and still no answer for it. Richard Spencer may be quite polarizing, but oftentimes people with unique innovative distinctive new thoughts/ideas are that way.

    The fact that you or anyone else can't answer the question answers the question: Nothing.

    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now?

    Well, I just fixed a crucial bug, and the title and traffic of this particular post caught my eye, so I took a look and might as well provide my own perspective…

    For about a decade, from the early 1990s to the early 2000s I was on quite friendly terms with the Neocons, including many of the prominent ones under discussion. Overall, I think I must have spent at least a couple of hundred hours talking/meeting with them, or attending their various events.

    However, I have to say that during all that time interacting with them, I’m not sure I can recall a single case of even one of them saying something that I regarded as notably interesting, creative, or intelligent. Basically, they’re just a bunch of rather mediocre political-intellectual apparatchiks, not too different from the sort that probably infested the late USSR. But my impression is that most DC policy-people fall into roughly this same category.

    A very important distinction must be drawn between these “Neocons” and the “Elder Neocons”, who were totally different in their intellectual talents, achievements, and even areas of interest…

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    A very important distinction must be drawn between these “Neocons” and the “Elder Neocons”, who were totally different in their intellectual talents, achievements, and even areas of interest…

    Joseph Epstein is a peripheral academic and critic. Norman Podhoretz is a literary critic turned commentator. Irving Kristol was a lifelong opinion journalist and editor. Epstein is an interesting essayist (as is Midge Decter). They got ideas into circulation. They weren't producers of original content. They were associated with scholarly types (Seymour Martin Lipset, Kenneth Lynn, Lawrence Mead), but not scholarly types themselves. There successors aren't that much different. They're not tapping academic talent, but that's a feature of opinion journalism across the board these days (or what's left of opinion journalism).
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Interesting observation, and one that parallels the late Sam Francis at a talk in 2000 at American Renaissance's "Race and the American Right". Mr. Francis does mention Bill Kristol even then and it is apparent that, at least regarding his attitudes toward mimicking the PC tropes of the day (in 2000) at the expense of conservatism in general, little has changed.

    Regarding neo-conservatives in general, Mr. Francis made these lucid insights:


    Time 27:45-28:41

    "that is why they (conservatives) accepted and were so easily conquered by the neoconservatives who to this day remain mainly liberal in their worldview and values. I very clearly recall when I worked for the Heritage Foundation in the late 1970's when the neoconservatives were first emerging into public view. Conservatives at the Foundation were eager to have neoconservatives work with them because they kept saying they possess credulity. The Neoconservatives possess credibility, you see, not because they had stronger academic credentials than conservative intellectuals, in fact they do not, but because they had reputations as liberals. If conservatives worked with them, some of the legitimacy and credibility they possessed might rub off on the Right. It did not occur to the movement conservatives then (and it certainly does not occur to them today) to challenge the liberal claim to moral legitimacy and to establish their own claim to it from the Right."

  257. @Carneades
    I quit reading NR when Buckley fired Joe Sobran in 1993.

    I was younger and had just discovered NR in 1993, but I quit after they defenestrated Derb. His column The Straggler was the only thing I was teading consistently anyways.

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    The only National Review writer I read now is the iconoclastic Armond White!
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I unsubscribed to National Review when they stopped running Florence King and wholeheartedly supported Bush II's invasion of Iraq, which I knew was going to be a disaster. Jonah Goldberg gave me another nudge when he wrote a column asserting that Howard Stern is a conservative.

    When I first subscribed to NR in the 1980s, I felt it was written by people who were a lot smarter than me. Twenty years later, it no longer gave me that impression.
  258. Steve; you are still better looking; and duh, taller than Podher z t – Pod people …whatever, that’s what this is all about. His war on immigration is: immigrants are geniuses…and they cost so little as far as social welfare services…so we have to pay more even if we are unemployed….wtf?….no way!

  259. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now? What ideas? What distinctive cutting edge new ways of thinking like say, Richard Spencer coining the term "Alt-Right" has Kristol come up with in 25-30yrs since Harvard? Not a hard question and still no answer for it. Richard Spencer may be quite polarizing, but oftentimes people with unique innovative distinctive new thoughts/ideas are that way.

    The fact that you or anyone else can't answer the question answers the question: Nothing.

    Spencer did not coin the term “Alt Right.” First, he was not the one who came up with that specific term. Second, and more crucially, whatever term he may have used way back when did not refer to the energetic and talented intellectual movement that came to fruition in the last 3-4 years, and which after some debate ended up labeling itself the “Alt Right.”

    Spencer is shameless in trying to hitch a ride on their creative output. He has no business representing himself to the media as a leader of the Alt Right.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Excellent points, but the thing is, the one aspect that Spencer does have right now is relative youth (e.g. younger than 40, which in DC area is like being 23 since there are so many dinosaurs). He has deftly positioned himself as a major spokesman, and continues to insist that he personally coined the term "Alt Right", perhaps in an attempt to accrue any and all kudos that come towards himself. Another useful aspect that strengthens his cause to become a major leader of the Alt Right mvt is that he's been imprisoned for his beliefs (thus a martyr of sorts), been publicly punched, attacked, driven off social media sites, etc. Still he endures. The cynic in me sometimes wonders if he isn't planning all of these attacks himself in order to gain more sympathy and push any competitors aside.
    , @Lurker
    I can still remember when it was the Dark Enlightenment.
  260. Steve consider it an honour that this POS hates you.
    You can tell a lot about a person by his enemies

    I didnt know anything about Podheretz Jr until he started posting in the (National Review) “Corner” sometime in the middle of the Bush administration. Memory fades but i recall him hysterically attacking any immigration skeptic fellow Corner poster. Simply put anyone who didn’t welcome the third world invasion was a racist monster.

    After he left to take over his hereditary position at Dysentery I happened to read a piece by him there that was unrecognizably (for him) sober, serious and well written.

    In hindsight it’s now clear that the present day hijacking of NR by the neocons is the Left’s revenge against the magazine they loved to hate in their youth. I recall a scene in Annie Hall where Woody is outraged that Diane Keaton reads NR; he tells her to call William F Buckley to kill the spider in her bathtub. By taking over NR, converting it from a conservative religious mouthpiece of traditional America to a forum for assorted liberal freaks they have crushed their enemies and achieved what is best in life. The fact that in doing so NR is nowadays irrelevant is a mere detail.

    This clip from Annie Hall shows Allen using a copy of NR to kill the spider.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    I subscribed to National Review from 1985-1993. By 1993, the neocons had taken over and I let the subscription lapse. I remember an article about the conservatism of Malcolm X. Ugh.

    The mainstream conservatism of today is simply the liberalism of 30 years ago. What has it conserved?

    Our crusade for democracy in the middle east under Pres. Brush would have been jeered at as recently as the Reagan administration.
    , @Art Deco
    By taking over NR, converting it from a conservative religious mouthpiece of traditional America to a forum for assorted liberal freaks they have crushed their enemies and achieved what is best in life. The fact that in doing so NR is nowadays irrelevant is a mere detail.

    National Review is run by a white-bread graduate of the University of Virginia, who is Mr. Buckley's hand picked successor. The publisher is similarly non-ethnic. Their irritating managing editor grew up in Utah. The doyen among their staff editors is an East Indian Catholic who grew up in Kansas City. Their arts editors include one guy from the Detroit exurbs and another one from Lubbock, Tx. Jonah Goldberg is Jewish (after a fashion), but his mother and his wife are not.

    , @Hibernian
    " ...he tells her to call William F Buckley to kill the spider in her bathtub."

    Maybe she should have.
    , @ScarletNumber
    Yes, but THIS clip shows the line you referenced:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eTXG8FReno
  261. @Expletive Deleted
    I find knocking the "Strict" setting off the results page in DDG puts the Pit of Belial and its little green leafy flowery Gamergate logo right at the top. For some reason it's concealed from delicate sensibilities, while endchan is allowed to frolic shamelessly in flagrante about six goose-steps below it.
    Having said that, it recently manifests itself unbidden at the top of my search regardless. Is my device now possessed?
    Anyway, don't go there unless for a specific research purpose, like Aeneas following the Sibyl. One could easily lose one's whole life to it, as its wretched and tormented Anon denizens occasionally mourn, and things once seen ... cannot be unseen.

    Expletive Deleted – Thanks. A earlier commentator indicated where 4chan could be found. I didn’t think of removing the safe search.

  262. @Anonymous
    You're all assuming "Reprllent" was a typo for "repellent." Might I suggest he meant to say "redpilled" and was subtly signalling the fact that he knows Sailer is speaking the truth?

    Could JPod be, dare I say it, /our guy/?

    “redpillent”

  263. @Garlic
    Norman Podhoretz + Irving Kristol = Neo Cons


    John Podhoretz + William Kristol = Nepo Cons

    John Podhoretz + William Kristol = Nepo Cons

    William Kristol never worked for any of his father’s publications. He was the founder of The Weekly Standard.

  264. @the cruncher
    /pol/:

    http://imgur.com/a/CV45h

    The most famous, and popular, is 4chan's:

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/catalog

    It's more free-wheeling and tolerant of fun, gets more traffic, probably half the population is non-white, though you wouldn't think it.

    Less famous and less populated, the more hardcore 8ch(an):

    https://8ch.net/pol/catalog.html

    ... 'nazis' split off from 4chan over ideology. I mention them because they're more effective at scheming and autistically putting together photos to dox people.

    People go back and forth, from 8ch for plans, to 4chan to recruit help (mostly). When people want to scheme privately, they'll open a 'discord', a free, all-purpose live communication platform originally developed for gamers.

    Top kek

  265. @jesse helms think-alike
    Steve consider it an honour that this POS hates you.
    You can tell a lot about a person by his enemies

    I didnt know anything about Podheretz Jr until he started posting in the (National Review) "Corner" sometime in the middle of the Bush administration. Memory fades but i recall him hysterically attacking any immigration skeptic fellow Corner poster. Simply put anyone who didn't welcome the third world invasion was a racist monster.

    After he left to take over his hereditary position at Dysentery I happened to read a piece by him there that was unrecognizably (for him) sober, serious and well written.

    In hindsight it's now clear that the present day hijacking of NR by the neocons is the Left's revenge against the magazine they loved to hate in their youth. I recall a scene in Annie Hall where Woody is outraged that Diane Keaton reads NR; he tells her to call William F Buckley to kill the spider in her bathtub. By taking over NR, converting it from a conservative religious mouthpiece of traditional America to a forum for assorted liberal freaks they have crushed their enemies and achieved what is best in life. The fact that in doing so NR is nowadays irrelevant is a mere detail.

    This clip from Annie Hall shows Allen using a copy of NR to kill the spider.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX5BngxRWLg

    I subscribed to National Review from 1985-1993. By 1993, the neocons had taken over and I let the subscription lapse. I remember an article about the conservatism of Malcolm X. Ugh.

    The mainstream conservatism of today is simply the liberalism of 30 years ago. What has it conserved?

    Our crusade for democracy in the middle east under Pres. Brush would have been jeered at as recently as the Reagan administration.

  266. @AM

    If the story of my relatives is representative, anti-semitism as practiced (what was called ‘the five o’clock shadow’) dissipated during the first 20 years after the war because it was awkward and the up-and-coming generation just couldn’t see the point of it.
     
    They could see the point, in part because I think American Jews of that era made a point to not be John Podhoretz. Relationships with other people and groups are 2 way streets. There was gratitude to American Christian soldiers, the society in which they lived, and a sense of shared experiences.

    Of course there were fallen humans and all the rest. But generations have characteristics. My personal "first" encounter with American Jewish culture was Mel Brooks, in Spaceballs. Pretty good PR , I think. A Jewish guy making fun of himself - one of the better aspects shining through.

    But if that first encounter had been JPod, if any criticism of globalism results in "antisemite" I would have considered developing a 5 o'clock shadow myself. We're at collective overload with the Holocaust and the JQ. The Boomer Jews (like Boomer Christians) don't seem to wonders in self restraint and the damage is growing. That's how this stuff develops, unfortunately, for any group on the planet.

    But if that first encounter had been JPod,

    He’s a media figure, not someone you know personally. People have offered here several quotations here from this person and that person (or anonymous source) who contend he’s unlikable face-to-face. That he may be. It’s not as if that’s all that unusual in this world.

    because I think American Jews of that era made a point to not be John Podhoretz.

    Me: Mrs. Teitelbaum, were you making it a point to not be John Podhoretz?

    Mrs. T: What?

    • Replies: @AM

    He’s a media figure, not someone you know personally
     
    Right, just like nobody took Trump's ascent to the President personally. How JPod acts matters a great deal. No amount of rationalization on that point makes it better.

    Antisemitism exists as an issue of two groups interacting with each other, not Jews as eternal victims or eternal villains.

    Me: Mrs. Teitelbaum, were you making it a point to not be John Podhoretz?

    Mrs. T: What?
     

    Make jokes all you want, the WWII Jewish population made active efforts not to act like total schmucks. There was some gratitude still in the mix. The removal of self-restraint and sense of entitlement spread everywhere and it's showing.

    You can't even say, "Yep, JPod is acting like a schmuck helping to ruin some hard earned social capital. " Somewhere you even praise the character of a man prone to slanderous outbursts at the slightest provocation. (Does "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour" ring a bell?)

    The millennials and Gen Z are seeing JPods, not Mel Brooks. To ask the populace at large to not react, when a critical mass of supposedly high IQ Jews really can't see how obnoxious and self-defeating their behaviors are, is asking way too much.

    I have good friend who is convinced that in Act 3 after current Act 2 is a very strongly worded invitation to Jews is to make Israel their home, regardless of their feelings or mine on the matter. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. We're making up this up as we go along and it's something I'd be against. But if it happened, I wouldn't be surprised either.

  267. @jesse helms think-alike
    Steve consider it an honour that this POS hates you.
    You can tell a lot about a person by his enemies

    I didnt know anything about Podheretz Jr until he started posting in the (National Review) "Corner" sometime in the middle of the Bush administration. Memory fades but i recall him hysterically attacking any immigration skeptic fellow Corner poster. Simply put anyone who didn't welcome the third world invasion was a racist monster.

    After he left to take over his hereditary position at Dysentery I happened to read a piece by him there that was unrecognizably (for him) sober, serious and well written.

    In hindsight it's now clear that the present day hijacking of NR by the neocons is the Left's revenge against the magazine they loved to hate in their youth. I recall a scene in Annie Hall where Woody is outraged that Diane Keaton reads NR; he tells her to call William F Buckley to kill the spider in her bathtub. By taking over NR, converting it from a conservative religious mouthpiece of traditional America to a forum for assorted liberal freaks they have crushed their enemies and achieved what is best in life. The fact that in doing so NR is nowadays irrelevant is a mere detail.

    This clip from Annie Hall shows Allen using a copy of NR to kill the spider.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX5BngxRWLg

    By taking over NR, converting it from a conservative religious mouthpiece of traditional America to a forum for assorted liberal freaks they have crushed their enemies and achieved what is best in life. The fact that in doing so NR is nowadays irrelevant is a mere detail.

    National Review is run by a white-bread graduate of the University of Virginia, who is Mr. Buckley’s hand picked successor. The publisher is similarly non-ethnic. Their irritating managing editor grew up in Utah. The doyen among their staff editors is an East Indian Catholic who grew up in Kansas City. Their arts editors include one guy from the Detroit exurbs and another one from Lubbock, Tx. Jonah Goldberg is Jewish (after a fashion), but his mother and his wife are not.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    "The publisher is similarly non-ethnic."

    There are many non-Anglo-Saxons with Anglo-Saxon surnames. Even in Davenport IA where I grew up.

    I think NRs "power structure," such as it is, might be a little Lace Curtain Irish. Reflecting the founder.
  268. @Yankee
    Hey Steve:

    /pol/ refers to one of the discussion boards on the 4chan website, Politically Incorrect, which covers current events and politics. It is a little spicier than most other places, with an approach to humor ranging from the juvenile to the deliberately offensive. And as an image-based bulletin board, you can find plenty of altered photos there. There are some thoughtful discussions there, however, and /pol/ was favorable toward Trump during the 2016 campaign.

    http://www.4chan.org/
    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/

    8chan’s pol is even better

    https://8ch.net/pol/index.html

  269. @Ron Unz

    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now?
     
    Well, I just fixed a crucial bug, and the title and traffic of this particular post caught my eye, so I took a look and might as well provide my own perspective...

    For about a decade, from the early 1990s to the early 2000s I was on quite friendly terms with the Neocons, including many of the prominent ones under discussion. Overall, I think I must have spent at least a couple of hundred hours talking/meeting with them, or attending their various events.

    However, I have to say that during all that time interacting with them, I'm not sure I can recall a single case of even one of them saying something that I regarded as notably interesting, creative, or intelligent. Basically, they're just a bunch of rather mediocre political-intellectual apparatchiks, not too different from the sort that probably infested the late USSR. But my impression is that most DC policy-people fall into roughly this same category.

    A very important distinction must be drawn between these "Neocons" and the "Elder Neocons", who were totally different in their intellectual talents, achievements, and even areas of interest...

    A very important distinction must be drawn between these “Neocons” and the “Elder Neocons”, who were totally different in their intellectual talents, achievements, and even areas of interest…

    Joseph Epstein is a peripheral academic and critic. Norman Podhoretz is a literary critic turned commentator. Irving Kristol was a lifelong opinion journalist and editor. Epstein is an interesting essayist (as is Midge Decter). They got ideas into circulation. They weren’t producers of original content. They were associated with scholarly types (Seymour Martin Lipset, Kenneth Lynn, Lawrence Mead), but not scholarly types themselves. There successors aren’t that much different. They’re not tapping academic talent, but that’s a feature of opinion journalism across the board these days (or what’s left of opinion journalism).

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    So then I am correct regarding William Kristol. He's basically a hack through and through. The fact that he started out graduating from Harvard with alleged promise and hasn't done anything to warrant the moniker of intellectual makes the point. Thank you for coming to agree my premise, I do appreciate it.

    Again. One doesn't have to go to Harvard per Kristol to end up a hack. Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, even Rush are proving that every day.
  270. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.


    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now? What ideas? What distinctive cutting edge new ways of thinking like say, Richard Spencer coining the term "Alt-Right" has Kristol come up with in 25-30yrs since Harvard? Not a hard question and still no answer for it. Richard Spencer may be quite polarizing, but oftentimes people with unique innovative distinctive new thoughts/ideas are that way.

    The fact that you or anyone else can't answer the question answers the question: Nothing.

    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Including yourself no doubt. The biggest example of a caricature is one who doesn't even know he's a caricature.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Then, if the site is such an affront to your intellectual capabilities, why do you post here?
    , @AM

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.
     
    That's fine. Because except for Mr. Unz and few posters I wish I could here more from, the ethnic Jewish discussion on this board can be summarized as:

    "Jews are never wrong, Jews never have moral obligation to greater society, Christianity is stupid and backward, all that matters is verbal acumen, good food, social status, and tasteful buildings. Also Trump sucks (or is a liar, etc) because he repudiates every single secular Jewish idea of what's important."

    It's obvious that a few of you, at least, really have no idea you're wandering around as the stereotype you hate so much.
    , @Hibernian
    And a year 2017 version of The Late George Appley is not beyond caricature? Maybe just right for caricature.
    , @Carneades
    :-)
    , @Opinionator
    Let us know when you come up with some evidence to prove your repeated claim in these parts that the Jews offered to return the West Bank to the Palestinians.
    , @Mr. Anon
    No, that does not characterize "most of the discussion that occurs at this site". You perhaps think it does, because you are to busy lecturing/hectoring everyone, rather than read what they say. If you weren't such an insufferable, smug prig, you might recognize that. But then, if you weren't an insufferable, smug prig, you wouldn't be the brand known as "Art Deco".

    Idiot.
  271. Steve Sailer’s unpleasant electronic encounter with Neo-Con John Podhoretz is funny and serious at the same time. It is funny because of the nastiness of Podhoretz. Mel Gibson should make a movie called “The Nastiness Of The Podhoretz.” Willem Dafoe could gain weight and wear a fake nose to play John Podhoretz.

    The Sailer encounter with Podhoretz is serious because the Jewish infiltration into the WASP ruling class of the American Empire has led to civilizational disaster for the United States. The Jews who now share ruling class duties with the WASPs are not nice people. They are both personally nasty and they also push nasty anti-White policies.

    John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons in the ruling class push nation-wrecking mass immigration and endless overseas war. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons want the US military to do the dirty work for Israel in the Middle East. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons say that there is no founding stock of the United States. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons say that the European Christian ancestral core of the United States had no part in the formation of the United States. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons say that the United States was a so-called “proposition nation” from the very beginning.

    We are headed for Civil War II. The European Christian ancestral core of the United States shall win Civil War II.

  272. Attention Steve Sailer: I have a comment that perfectly illustrates Mr. Art Deco’s complaint about the anti-Neo-Con commenters on this site. It is back in the 190s of comments, and it has yet to be moderated on through. It would perfectly prove Mr Deco’s point about the similarity of opinion regarding the Neo-Cons on this blog.

    I personally hate the Neo-Cons. I have no problem admitting it. The Neo-Cons are warmongers who put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States. The Neo-Cons are treasonous scum of the worst sort. George W Bush is the man responsible for the Iraq War debacle, of that there is no doubt, but the Neo-Cons in the corporate media were screaming bloody murder for regime change in the Middle East — and the bastards are still screaming for more endless overseas war.

  273. @Peter Akuleyev

    Going bass fishing on a boat beats by a mile attending some over-priced trendy gallery and sipping bad wine while some gay guy flounces about.
     
    Maybe. But bass fishing is still pretty poor entertainment compared to sailing in the Adriatic or skiing in the Alps, or even hiking in the white mountains. For that matter a well performed play or even a good book is better than bass fishing.

    I disagree.

    If someone knows what they’re doing, fishing for smallies or walleye on a great body of water – Lake Erie or Lake St. Clair – can be far more intellectually engaging than a non-fisherman could ever conceive.

    Plus, it’s fun and a great excuse to have a few beers with a buddy!

    • Replies: @anonguy

    If someone knows what they’re doing, fishing for smallies or walleye on a great body of water – Lake Erie or Lake St. Clair – can be far more intellectually engaging than a non-fisherman could ever conceive.
     
    Skeptical.

    Do a substantial amount of people regularly travel from afar to go bass fishing on the Great Lakes, like from other countries. I really don't know, but if not, it is then just simply a local diversion of no particular note or merit other than it is nearby.
  274. @Achilles
    Projection.

    Meanwhile, the source of the evil juju emanations has been found: Former WaPo Religion columnist Sally Quinn

    Says she's killed or ruined three people through demonic hexes and it's all she can do to restrain herself from placing a hex on Donald Trump.

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/27/sally-quinn-next-act-finding-magic/

    Oh, HER! She used to be known as “Poison Quinn,” not least because of her tendency to butter people up, get them to reveal something embarrassing, and print it. (Now common practice, but in those days, still considered unprofessional.) When she was looking for a job after graduation, she did what any struggling career girl would do and threw a party for other society numpties. Sadly for us all, it worked.

    She then affected to espouse feminism, but got her start the bimbo way, marrying and shagging Ben, not necessarily in that order. Her book, We’re Going to Make You a Star, contained page after page of unwitting revelations that her failure as co-host of a morning show resulted mostly from her lack of preparation or even consciousness that she needed to prepare. Her attempt to do a Glitz-and-Glamour novel, Regrets Only, was of such quality as to prompt Christopher Buckley to term it “cliterature.”

    Last I heard, most of her family wouldn’t have anything to do with her. As Malignant Narcissists generally do, she is probably wondering why everyone else is always so unreasonable.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    How many Spirit Cooking Phenomena are there out there??
  275. @Pat Boyle
    We need those gay columnists. Otherwise how would we know that Channing Tatum is good looking? I guess he is attractive although I always wondered. He has a kind of melted looking face. Cary Grant seems handsome mostly because he has chiseled features. Or at least that was always my criteria. But then this Tatum guy emerged and I was confused. To me he looked bland but there had to be some appeal that got him into movies. Fortunately we have gay movie critics who can set us straight.

    “We need those gay columnists. Otherwise how would we know that Channing Tatum is good looking? I guess he is attractive although I always wondered.”

    A lot of the men on my dad’s side look like Tatum, and I think my family is normal looking, mostly.

    Maybe women prefer the “boy next door” versus some unapproachably exotic Calvin Klein underwear model sporting an eight-pack.

  276. Going by https://www.unz.com/article/mccains-transmutation-from-cautious-realist-to-super-hawk/McCain seems to be the one who thinks Jews are not to be crossed seeing as how he completely switched feet to become a warmonger after reading “an article in the Wall Street Journal editorial page by neoconservatives Bill Kristol”.

    Podhoretz’s father grew up around blacks and got a sense of their intellectual level through being whopped upside the head by them (once with a baseball bat) . Young master Podhoretz never had to put up with anything like that, and he gets to dub people less fortunately situated “filth”.

  277. @Barnard
    Does "reprllent" mean repellent? Repugnant? I know I make a lot of typos, but he must have been particularly filled with rage while he was typing that. Based on what I have seen of the Weinsteins work, they are experts on producing filth. I guess Podhoretz and I have different definitions of what constitutes filth.

    So is “reprllent” the new “covfefe,” or do typo memes only go one way?

  278. @Anon
    I'm yahoodi and I found it funny. In my opinion jpod is calling it racist because of the Asian lass.

    No it’s SEXIST! The idea of implying that tiny women with babies need rescuing by oversized rednecks, blah blah blah….

  279. @Kirt
    Congrats, Steve, especially on the reprllent ! He was inspired to invent a new word for you. Truly creative insults are to be cherished more than compliments. Anyone can be a Nazi, a fascist, or a terrorist, but I was once called a "f#%&ing piece of [email protected]*t French Jew" followed by "Why don't you go back to Mexico?" And on a Spanish language blog I was called "el satanico brujo mayor del culto Trevi/Andrade". Not everyone gets to be a supreme satanic warlock - of any cult.

    It’s the incoherence of your nemesis’ diatribe that makes it so endearing. A local music promoter was notorious for resembling John Lennon: little round wire glasses on similar features and hair/eye color. One night he strongly encouraged a disruptive drunk to leave the venue; when said drunk finally complied, he turned around in the doorway to deliver his parting shot: “Well, #$%^ you, Paul McCartney!” There’s something strangely charming about people who can’t even get their insults straight.

  280. @Art Deco
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    Including yourself no doubt. The biggest example of a caricature is one who doesn’t even know he’s a caricature.

    • Agree: Broski
  281. @Art Deco
    A very important distinction must be drawn between these “Neocons” and the “Elder Neocons”, who were totally different in their intellectual talents, achievements, and even areas of interest…

    Joseph Epstein is a peripheral academic and critic. Norman Podhoretz is a literary critic turned commentator. Irving Kristol was a lifelong opinion journalist and editor. Epstein is an interesting essayist (as is Midge Decter). They got ideas into circulation. They weren't producers of original content. They were associated with scholarly types (Seymour Martin Lipset, Kenneth Lynn, Lawrence Mead), but not scholarly types themselves. There successors aren't that much different. They're not tapping academic talent, but that's a feature of opinion journalism across the board these days (or what's left of opinion journalism).

    So then I am correct regarding William Kristol. He’s basically a hack through and through. The fact that he started out graduating from Harvard with alleged promise and hasn’t done anything to warrant the moniker of intellectual makes the point. Thank you for coming to agree my premise, I do appreciate it.

    Again. One doesn’t have to go to Harvard per Kristol to end up a hack. Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, even Rush are proving that every day.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Thomas Fleming ended his career as 'President' of the Rockford Institute, which was a shell of what it had been at the time he acquired that position. Its only activity by that time was publishing a slim 10-issues-a-year magazine which had, at the time of his departure, about 12,000 paid subscribers. It had had 20,000 at one point but most of them decamped when he elected to act as a volunteer press agent for Slobodan Milosevic. As for Samuel Francis, his final years were spent editing the newsletter issued by the residuum of the old white Citizens' Councils.

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career.
  282. @Art Deco
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    Then, if the site is such an affront to your intellectual capabilities, why do you post here?

  283. @Opinionator
    Spencer did not coin the term "Alt Right." First, he was not the one who came up with that specific term. Second, and more crucially, whatever term he may have used way back when did not refer to the energetic and talented intellectual movement that came to fruition in the last 3-4 years, and which after some debate ended up labeling itself the "Alt Right."

    Spencer is shameless in trying to hitch a ride on their creative output. He has no business representing himself to the media as a leader of the Alt Right.

    Excellent points, but the thing is, the one aspect that Spencer does have right now is relative youth (e.g. younger than 40, which in DC area is like being 23 since there are so many dinosaurs). He has deftly positioned himself as a major spokesman, and continues to insist that he personally coined the term “Alt Right”, perhaps in an attempt to accrue any and all kudos that come towards himself. Another useful aspect that strengthens his cause to become a major leader of the Alt Right mvt is that he’s been imprisoned for his beliefs (thus a martyr of sorts), been publicly punched, attacked, driven off social media sites, etc. Still he endures. The cynic in me sometimes wonders if he isn’t planning all of these attacks himself in order to gain more sympathy and push any competitors aside.

  284. @Opinionator
    Spencer did not coin the term "Alt Right." First, he was not the one who came up with that specific term. Second, and more crucially, whatever term he may have used way back when did not refer to the energetic and talented intellectual movement that came to fruition in the last 3-4 years, and which after some debate ended up labeling itself the "Alt Right."

    Spencer is shameless in trying to hitch a ride on their creative output. He has no business representing himself to the media as a leader of the Alt Right.

    I can still remember when it was the Dark Enlightenment.

    • Replies: @Carneades
    Hell, I remember when it was alt.politics.nationalism.white on Usenet.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    So do I. About three years ago, if memory serves me correctly.
  285. Meanwhile, somebody please pass the popcorn, as bored identity is still waiting for Intersectional Blackity Chic & KAmau-KAmauing Brigade to heer & learn moar about
    Our Dad & Son Podhoretz Problem :

  286. @Ron Unz

    I digested your answer, and it came back as indigestible BS. That was several decades ago when he graduated from Harvard. So the question remains, WHAT ideas, has Kristol come with post-Harvard Dissertation, will Kristol be remembered for yrs from now?
     
    Well, I just fixed a crucial bug, and the title and traffic of this particular post caught my eye, so I took a look and might as well provide my own perspective...

    For about a decade, from the early 1990s to the early 2000s I was on quite friendly terms with the Neocons, including many of the prominent ones under discussion. Overall, I think I must have spent at least a couple of hundred hours talking/meeting with them, or attending their various events.

    However, I have to say that during all that time interacting with them, I'm not sure I can recall a single case of even one of them saying something that I regarded as notably interesting, creative, or intelligent. Basically, they're just a bunch of rather mediocre political-intellectual apparatchiks, not too different from the sort that probably infested the late USSR. But my impression is that most DC policy-people fall into roughly this same category.

    A very important distinction must be drawn between these "Neocons" and the "Elder Neocons", who were totally different in their intellectual talents, achievements, and even areas of interest...

    Interesting observation, and one that parallels the late Sam Francis at a talk in 2000 at American Renaissance’s “Race and the American Right”. Mr. Francis does mention Bill Kristol even then and it is apparent that, at least regarding his attitudes toward mimicking the PC tropes of the day (in 2000) at the expense of conservatism in general, little has changed.

    Regarding neo-conservatives in general, Mr. Francis made these lucid insights:

    Time 27:45-28:41

    “that is why they (conservatives) accepted and were so easily conquered by the neoconservatives who to this day remain mainly liberal in their worldview and values. I very clearly recall when I worked for the Heritage Foundation in the late 1970’s when the neoconservatives were first emerging into public view. Conservatives at the Foundation were eager to have neoconservatives work with them because they kept saying they possess credulity. The Neoconservatives possess credibility, you see, not because they had stronger academic credentials than conservative intellectuals, in fact they do not, but because they had reputations as liberals. If conservatives worked with them, some of the legitimacy and credibility they possessed might rub off on the Right. It did not occur to the movement conservatives then (and it certainly does not occur to them today) to challenge the liberal claim to moral legitimacy and to establish their own claim to it from the Right.”

  287. How typical – Jpod feigns racial concerns, when what triggered his comment was the Jewish name “Weinstein.”

    This is pure ADL 101 boilerplate – masking protecting Jews by crying racism.

  288. @Art Deco
    But if that first encounter had been JPod,

    He's a media figure, not someone you know personally. People have offered here several quotations here from this person and that person (or anonymous source) who contend he's unlikable face-to-face. That he may be. It's not as if that's all that unusual in this world.



    because I think American Jews of that era made a point to not be John Podhoretz.

    Me: Mrs. Teitelbaum, were you making it a point to not be John Podhoretz?

    Mrs. T: What?

    He’s a media figure, not someone you know personally

    Right, just like nobody took Trump’s ascent to the President personally. How JPod acts matters a great deal. No amount of rationalization on that point makes it better.

    Antisemitism exists as an issue of two groups interacting with each other, not Jews as eternal victims or eternal villains.

    Me: Mrs. Teitelbaum, were you making it a point to not be John Podhoretz?

    Mrs. T: What?

    Make jokes all you want, the WWII Jewish population made active efforts not to act like total schmucks. There was some gratitude still in the mix. The removal of self-restraint and sense of entitlement spread everywhere and it’s showing.

    You can’t even say, “Yep, JPod is acting like a schmuck helping to ruin some hard earned social capital. ” Somewhere you even praise the character of a man prone to slanderous outbursts at the slightest provocation. (Does “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” ring a bell?)

    The millennials and Gen Z are seeing JPods, not Mel Brooks. To ask the populace at large to not react, when a critical mass of supposedly high IQ Jews really can’t see how obnoxious and self-defeating their behaviors are, is asking way too much.

    I have good friend who is convinced that in Act 3 after current Act 2 is a very strongly worded invitation to Jews is to make Israel their home, regardless of their feelings or mine on the matter. Whether that’s true or not, I don’t know. We’re making up this up as we go along and it’s something I’d be against. But if it happened, I wouldn’t be surprised either.

  289. @Danindc
    May have to do with Weinstein being such a strikingly Jewish name

    Mr. Blank covered that point by dismissing it. I disagree with Mr. Blank. Please note, I’m saying I think that was what set Podhoretz off; I’m not agreeing with him.

  290. @Marat
    I missed Podhoritz's boat entirely, thinking the shot was a commentary on feminism -- "girl power", that sort of thing.

    It was, but Podhoretz went ballistic at the mention of the name “Weinstein.”

  291. @Art Deco
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    That’s fine. Because except for Mr. Unz and few posters I wish I could here more from, the ethnic Jewish discussion on this board can be summarized as:

    “Jews are never wrong, Jews never have moral obligation to greater society, Christianity is stupid and backward, all that matters is verbal acumen, good food, social status, and tasteful buildings. Also Trump sucks (or is a liar, etc) because he repudiates every single secular Jewish idea of what’s important.”

    It’s obvious that a few of you, at least, really have no idea you’re wandering around as the stereotype you hate so much.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    That’s fine. Because except for Mr. Unz and few posters I wish I could here more from, the ethnic Jewish discussion on this board can be summarized as: “Jews are never wrong, Jews never have moral obligation to greater society, Christianity is stupid and backward, all that matters is verbal acumen, good food, social status, and tasteful buildings. Also Trump sucks (or is a liar, etc) because he repudiates every single secular Jewish idea of what’s important.”

    There aren't many self-identified Jews posting here, and they generally have a thick hide. That aside, who do you fancy said or implied any of the foregoing?

  292. @Art Deco
    By taking over NR, converting it from a conservative religious mouthpiece of traditional America to a forum for assorted liberal freaks they have crushed their enemies and achieved what is best in life. The fact that in doing so NR is nowadays irrelevant is a mere detail.

    National Review is run by a white-bread graduate of the University of Virginia, who is Mr. Buckley's hand picked successor. The publisher is similarly non-ethnic. Their irritating managing editor grew up in Utah. The doyen among their staff editors is an East Indian Catholic who grew up in Kansas City. Their arts editors include one guy from the Detroit exurbs and another one from Lubbock, Tx. Jonah Goldberg is Jewish (after a fashion), but his mother and his wife are not.

    “The publisher is similarly non-ethnic.”

    There are many non-Anglo-Saxons with Anglo-Saxon surnames. Even in Davenport IA where I grew up.

    I think NRs “power structure,” such as it is, might be a little Lace Curtain Irish. Reflecting the founder.

    • Replies: @Broski
    Like who? Oh, like John Stewart, Kirk and Michael Douglas, Mel Brooks, Bret Stephens, and etc.?

    The term for this is crypsis. It's like that line from the Usual Suspects: "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
  293. Podhoretz’s Time Pod Whoring Based Decisioning Process Demonstrates Why He Is Chosen To Punditize Masses With A Retarded References To Cable- Subscription -Needed Distractions, And You’re Not:

    By John Podhoretz

    August 14, 2017

    For the past seven months, fellow conservatives have pointed to Donald Trump’s appointment of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court and the deregulatory efforts of the Trump White House, among other things, and then demanded to know why my view of this presidency has remained negative.

    Charlottesville is why.

    (…)

    I’ve also been basically ordered to support the president by conservative intellectuals for the good of America, just as Daenerys Targaryen keeps telling Jon Snow on “Game of Thrones” to bend the knee to save Westeros. ”

    http://nypost.com/2017/08/14/charlottesville-is-why-im-glad-i-dont-support-trump/

  294. @Art Deco
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    And a year 2017 version of The Late George Appley is not beyond caricature? Maybe just right for caricature.

  295. @jesse helms think-alike
    Steve consider it an honour that this POS hates you.
    You can tell a lot about a person by his enemies

    I didnt know anything about Podheretz Jr until he started posting in the (National Review) "Corner" sometime in the middle of the Bush administration. Memory fades but i recall him hysterically attacking any immigration skeptic fellow Corner poster. Simply put anyone who didn't welcome the third world invasion was a racist monster.

    After he left to take over his hereditary position at Dysentery I happened to read a piece by him there that was unrecognizably (for him) sober, serious and well written.

    In hindsight it's now clear that the present day hijacking of NR by the neocons is the Left's revenge against the magazine they loved to hate in their youth. I recall a scene in Annie Hall where Woody is outraged that Diane Keaton reads NR; he tells her to call William F Buckley to kill the spider in her bathtub. By taking over NR, converting it from a conservative religious mouthpiece of traditional America to a forum for assorted liberal freaks they have crushed their enemies and achieved what is best in life. The fact that in doing so NR is nowadays irrelevant is a mere detail.

    This clip from Annie Hall shows Allen using a copy of NR to kill the spider.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX5BngxRWLg

    ” …he tells her to call William F Buckley to kill the spider in her bathtub.”

    Maybe she should have.

  296. Only one effective way to handle this guy :

    You have to tell him that HE is the Racist scumbag, as the leftist nut-cases have been dishing out these insults with impunity for decades and they know that their victims are too timid and terrified of the racist label to even begin to fight back.

    This is what DT is doing : fighting back is it is the only thing which will work.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne qualified US Army Vet, and pro Jazz musician.

  297. @benjaminl
    I'm glad you mentioned that. To understand the tangled history of the feud between Conservatism Inc. and the Dissident Right, it helps to see just how hysterically the likes of JPod react to even the most mild challenges to the Proposition Nation:

    7/11/2005 - JPod triggered by Derb's criticism of birthright citizenship
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/pod-lesser-birthright-pundit/

    7/13/2005 - JPod calls Sailer "a scum"
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/please-keep-attacking-me/

    7/17/2005 - Sailer cites Norman Podhoretz contra JPod
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/podhoretz-junior-vs-steve-sailer

    9/3/2005 - Sailer commits an act of Unauthorized Noticing
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/racial-reality-and-the-new-orleans-nightmare

    9/5/2005 - JPod triggered; early use of "point 'n' sputter"
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies/

    9/7/2005 - Sailer cites Commentary and AEI contra JPod
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/john-podhoretz-averts-his-maidenly/

    Here, bored identity fixed this Family Hologram Projection:

    In case you were wondering whether Steve Sailer my ‘John, I am Your Father’, Daddy Norman was a loathsome, reprllent racist filth, wonder no longer.

  298. @anonymous
    I thoroughly avoid all things Hollywood, including TV. So a decent proportion of what Mr. Sailer addresses goes right over my head. But for some reason I clicked to and read the interview of Mr. Weinstein, of whom I had never even heard. Ugh.

    [portion of interview follows]

    There are a lot of projects about the election and the aftermath in the works. Is the subject matter of interest to you?

    No, not in television. I think MSNBC and CNN are doing a much better job than I can do. There's no TV that can out-do Mika Brzezinski [of Morning Joe]. She is my all-time idol. I'm watching Joe Scarborough step up to the plate, but Mika kills it. She's just laying the law down in a way I've never seen. I get up at 6 in the morning for her. I always used to stay up late watching old movies; Now I say, "All right, I'd better not stay up that late, I've got to watch Mika."

    You had said that you were going to give President Trump a chance. Is that still the case?

    The less said, the better. Among the things I'm doing: a private foundation. I just named it the Miriam Foundation after my mom [who died in November], and I'm raising all the money. We're going to support [everything] from LGBT to women's rights, more women directors, the National Endowment of the Arts. I'm going to finance a lot of it privately.

    Malia Obama is working for you. What conversations with her parents led up to her internship?

    (Shakes his head no.)

    [end of interview portion]


    Why ordinary folks spend their time and money supporting those who think of themselves in such terms, yet produce so little that is worthwhile, is beyond me.

    ” I think MSNBC and CNN are doing a much better job than I can do. There’s no TV that can out-do Mika Brzezinski ( of Morning joe ).

    If you can make any kind of rational sense out of her madness well this simply means that you are existing in a totally different ( bonkers) universe than I am.

    Look leftists are all insane and this fact is finally being recognized by John Doe, after decades of considering them to just be holding “Different” opinions.

    Authenticjazzman ” Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Broski
    Don't you love how Joe Scarborough has morphed from looking like a normal red state dude to looking like a tranny version of Rachel Maddow? It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. He is the cuck of all cucks.
  299. @Sean C
    I think this is the picture. I don't know if it was edited but it shows the husband carrying his Nikes while the person with white privilege carries the wife and child.

    https://kek.gg/i/d2tXS.jpeg

    Are you sure the guy with the Nikes is the husband? Another guy I thought might be the husband was on the right of another version of the picture, standing and watching, and he was not the same guy. Could the Nikes guy be a volunteer or a neighbor?

    • Replies: @Sean c
    I am not sure who he is.
  300. Mr. Sailer take it a badge of honor coming from someone like him, a member of the vermin race of earth.

  301. @Art Deco
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    🙂

  302. @Hibernian
    "The publisher is similarly non-ethnic."

    There are many non-Anglo-Saxons with Anglo-Saxon surnames. Even in Davenport IA where I grew up.

    I think NRs "power structure," such as it is, might be a little Lace Curtain Irish. Reflecting the founder.

    Like who? Oh, like John Stewart, Kirk and Michael Douglas, Mel Brooks, Bret Stephens, and etc.?

    The term for this is crypsis. It’s like that line from the Usual Suspects: “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    There weren't many Jewish kids in Davenport. One was surnamed Edwards, another Katz, another Dunkin, another Kramer, and finally Kuekerans. Then there was Rogers who I thought was Italian but who turned out to be Greek, the Irish Catholics Smith, Jones, and Dickinson, and Irish-Polish-French Canadian me. I will not disclose my own surname because I've already given up too much personal information about myself on this page.

    I think Mr. Lowry the editor of NR is a member of the Irish Brotherhood; I'm not sure. I think the publisher is Jack Fowler and think it would possibly be a mistake to confer WASPdom on him just based on his surname.

    The notion that the greatest trick of the devil is to deny his own existence should properly be credited to C. S. Lewis. And if you believe that the Jews and/or the Greeks and/or the Italians and/or the Irish, etc. are Devils, please don't assume any support for that kind of belief from me.
  303. @Art Deco
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    Let us know when you come up with some evidence to prove your repeated claim in these parts that the Jews offered to return the West Bank to the Palestinians.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    Blaks be dummm, Jooz be eevul, Neocoons luv warz for their goals as long as it kills other peeps and the Zionazis will never give up an inch (virtually) of occupied Palestine.
    , @Art Deco
    Let us know when you come up with some evidence to prove your repeated claim in these parts that the Jews offered to return the West Bank to the Palestinians.

    You're bound and determined to assiduously avoid reading period news accounts and the memoirs of the American officials involved. This I cannot help you with.
  304. @Authenticjazzman
    " I think MSNBC and CNN are doing a much better job than I can do. There's no TV that can out-do Mika Brzezinski ( of Morning joe ).

    If you can make any kind of rational sense out of her madness well this simply means that you are existing in a totally different ( bonkers) universe than I am.

    Look leftists are all insane and this fact is finally being recognized by John Doe, after decades of considering them to just be holding "Different" opinions.

    Authenticjazzman " Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz musician.

    Don’t you love how Joe Scarborough has morphed from looking like a normal red state dude to looking like a tranny version of Rachel Maddow? It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic. He is the cuck of all cucks.

    • LOL: Z-man
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    When you get away with murdering an intern, it does create certain vulnerabilities that can be exploited by the unsavory.
    , @anonguy

    Don’t you love how Joe Scarborough has morphed from looking like a normal red state dude to looking like a tranny version of Rachel Maddow? It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic. He is the cuck of all cucks.
     
    He's going to look like Olbermann before he is done.
    , @JudgeSmails
    I've always thought Rachel Maddow looked like the tranny version of Rachel Maddow. But nice dig at Scarborough.
  305. @Anonymous
    Steve:

    Judging by JPpd's twitter feed, you have an Army of reinforcements coming to your defense.

    Coming soon:

    Evan Williams apologizes for adding value to Steve Sailer’s blog entries;
    embarks on self-flagellation auto-da-fe campus speaking tour
    for further deballsing John Podhoretz’s failing brand

  306. @Lurker
    I can still remember when it was the Dark Enlightenment.

    Hell, I remember when it was alt.politics.nationalism.white on Usenet.

  307. @Rosamond Vincy
    Oh, HER! She used to be known as "Poison Quinn," not least because of her tendency to butter people up, get them to reveal something embarrassing, and print it. (Now common practice, but in those days, still considered unprofessional.) When she was looking for a job after graduation, she did what any struggling career girl would do and threw a party for other society numpties. Sadly for us all, it worked.

    She then affected to espouse feminism, but got her start the bimbo way, marrying and shagging Ben, not necessarily in that order. Her book, We're Going to Make You a Star, contained page after page of unwitting revelations that her failure as co-host of a morning show resulted mostly from her lack of preparation or even consciousness that she needed to prepare. Her attempt to do a Glitz-and-Glamour novel, Regrets Only, was of such quality as to prompt Christopher Buckley to term it "cliterature."

    Last I heard, most of her family wouldn't have anything to do with her. As Malignant Narcissists generally do, she is probably wondering why everyone else is always so unreasonable.

    How many Spirit Cooking Phenomena are there out there??

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    Wouldn't know. I generally use the microwave.
  308. @O'Really
    In the early days of NRO, I really enjoyed the Corner, which at that time was sort of a conservative proto-twitter. It had a heady, fun, friendly vibe. Then they let JPod in, and all of a sudden the whole thing went to hell as he would have these bizarre, unprovoked rage attacks. It was really odd.

    If you were as reprllent a load of s__t as Little Poddy has been all his life, you too would be subject to
    sudden rages.

  309. @Art Deco
    What he lacks is character.

    I don't know that he cheats on his wife or cheats on his taxes. I've no reason to believe he's ever advocated anything he didn't actually believe, although the opinion-monger trade does induce people to play particular stereotyped roles. He does have a sense of himself and his social circle that tends to inflate their importance and sophistication. (See the obituary of his sister in which he chuffers about how accomplished his brother-in-law was at age 36; his brother-in-law was a lawyer with a fund of liberal education who had certain connections and certain modest administrative talents; he wasn't any more accomplished than a mid-level business executive of a sort you can find in any small city in America).

    Whatever dynamic which prevailed between JP and his parents after 1982 was the wrong one. He never acquired any post-baccalaureate schooling or worked in a trade for which you could say he was suitable. Instead, he wrote mediocre newspaper columns for the New York Post, ate too much, dressed badly, married very late in life, had no children until he was nearly 40, and ended up taking over the dregs of his father's magazine when the American Jewish Committee and his father's puppy dog Neil Kozodoy decided they were done with it. He seems like a character who might be skewered or pitied in a short story by Joan Didion or John Updike.

    Wow, Art Deco – that was cruel.

    But fair.

  310. @celt darnell
    There's an "obsession with race on this blog"?

    And the entire media, government, Hollywood, academia, sports and corporate worlds have no such "obsession," right?

    The fact American culture is obsessed with race, doesn’t mean you should be obsessed with race. It can be interesting to talk about from time to time, but dedicating your life and career to race issues is a superficial waste of time, regardless if you are on the left or right on this subject – since race itself is such a superficial issue.

    • Replies: @res
    True. Hopefully you expend the same amount of energy saying similar things to the "YT is evil" crowd.
    , @Hibernian
    "– since race itself is such a superficial issue."

    That's aspirational; not real at the present time unfortunately. I find that if I try not to be interested in race, race is still interested in me.
  311. @Opinionator
    Let us know when you come up with some evidence to prove your repeated claim in these parts that the Jews offered to return the West Bank to the Palestinians.

    Blaks be dummm, Jooz be eevul, Neocoons luv warz for their goals as long as it kills other peeps and the Zionazis will never give up an inch (virtually) of occupied Palestine.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    And Whites be...?
  312. @Dmitry134564
    The fact American culture is obsessed with race, doesn't mean you should be obsessed with race. It can be interesting to talk about from time to time, but dedicating your life and career to race issues is a superficial waste of time, regardless if you are on the left or right on this subject - since race itself is such a superficial issue.

    True. Hopefully you expend the same amount of energy saying similar things to the “YT is evil” crowd.

  313. Qudos Steve Sailer. I wish Jon Pod called a a Loathsome, Reprllent Racist Filth. You got to be doing something right.

  314. @Paul Jolliffe
    I disagree.

    If someone knows what they're doing, fishing for smallies or walleye on a great body of water - Lake Erie or Lake St. Clair - can be far more intellectually engaging than a non-fisherman could ever conceive.

    Plus, it's fun and a great excuse to have a few beers with a buddy!

    https://youtu.be/9V34XgSHe4w

    If someone knows what they’re doing, fishing for smallies or walleye on a great body of water – Lake Erie or Lake St. Clair – can be far more intellectually engaging than a non-fisherman could ever conceive.

    Skeptical.

    Do a substantial amount of people regularly travel from afar to go bass fishing on the Great Lakes, like from other countries. I really don’t know, but if not, it is then just simply a local diversion of no particular note or merit other than it is nearby.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    Yes.

    https://www.bassmaster.com/results/tournaments/bassmaster-elite-st-clair/1
  315. @Broski
    Don't you love how Joe Scarborough has morphed from looking like a normal red state dude to looking like a tranny version of Rachel Maddow? It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. He is the cuck of all cucks.

    When you get away with murdering an intern, it does create certain vulnerabilities that can be exploited by the unsavory.

  316. @Dmitry134564
    The fact American culture is obsessed with race, doesn't mean you should be obsessed with race. It can be interesting to talk about from time to time, but dedicating your life and career to race issues is a superficial waste of time, regardless if you are on the left or right on this subject - since race itself is such a superficial issue.

    “– since race itself is such a superficial issue.”

    That’s aspirational; not real at the present time unfortunately. I find that if I try not to be interested in race, race is still interested in me.

  317. @Pat Boyle
    I went to a Republican dinner once where Bill Kristol was the speaker. Very disappointing. An empty suit - doctorate or not.

    Sounds like a waste of an evening to me!!

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Could have been worse. You could sign up for the National Review cruise and waste a whole week!
  318. @Pat Boyle
    At one time my government job was to evaluate government programs. This was in the eighties as I remember. I was not the only evaluator but I was the only one who actually did any real evaluation. I told the other time servers who never published a report "If they don't call you a Nazi. You aren't really doing your job."

    I remember filing an unfavorable report on a senior program and the contractor referred to me at the County Board as "Boyle and his storm troopers". My storm troopers averaged about 85.

    So if they call you a fascist or a Nazi or a racist - wear it with pride. Proof that you are doing your job.

    You must have had a a hundred or more jobs in your life. Time to write your memoirs.

  319. @Chrisnonymous
    I was younger and had just discovered NR in 1993, but I quit after they defenestrated Derb. His column The Straggler was the only thing I was teading consistently anyways.

    The only National Review writer I read now is the iconoclastic Armond White!

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    What irony. White used to write for NY Press in the '90s. He is black and gay. Despite or perhaps because of these factors, he is one of the few real conservatives there and says whatever he wants--in the tradition of tri-sexual Florence King, one of the best writers NR ever had.
  320. @Broski
    Don't you love how Joe Scarborough has morphed from looking like a normal red state dude to looking like a tranny version of Rachel Maddow? It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. He is the cuck of all cucks.

    Don’t you love how Joe Scarborough has morphed from looking like a normal red state dude to looking like a tranny version of Rachel Maddow? It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic. He is the cuck of all cucks.

    He’s going to look like Olbermann before he is done.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I wonder if Joe Scarborough will announce he is transitioning?
  321. @Hibernian
    Are you sure the guy with the Nikes is the husband? Another guy I thought might be the husband was on the right of another version of the picture, standing and watching, and he was not the same guy. Could the Nikes guy be a volunteer or a neighbor?

    I am not sure who he is.

  322. @benjaminl
    +1 on the significance of their "Weaponized Autism."

    I'm way too old to be able to understand how to access or use /pol/, but their frequently suspended and then frequently re-incarnated Twitter account, "Pol News Network," gives a fascinating sense of what they are up to:

    This is the latest version:

    https://twitter.com/polNewsInfinity

    I’ve looked in on /pol/ sometimes, in fact I was exhorted to get on there!

    But I just couldn’t ‘get’ it. Who is talking to whom etc It looks like a shambles to me.

  323. @Jasper Been
    Sounds like a waste of an evening to me!!

    Could have been worse. You could sign up for the National Review cruise and waste a whole week!

  324. @Lurker
    I can still remember when it was the Dark Enlightenment.

    So do I. About three years ago, if memory serves me correctly.

  325. @Chrisnonymous
    I was younger and had just discovered NR in 1993, but I quit after they defenestrated Derb. His column The Straggler was the only thing I was teading consistently anyways.

    I unsubscribed to National Review when they stopped running Florence King and wholeheartedly supported Bush II’s invasion of Iraq, which I knew was going to be a disaster. Jonah Goldberg gave me another nudge when he wrote a column asserting that Howard Stern is a conservative.

    When I first subscribed to NR in the 1980s, I felt it was written by people who were a lot smarter than me. Twenty years later, it no longer gave me that impression.

  326. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Somehow whenever a cinematic-grade hurricane hits a major U.S. city, Podhoretz’s first reflex is to read iSteve for weather information but then get instantly enraged at the paucity of reassuring content. It’s one of the more mysterious cyclical phenomena in the twittosphere…

    I didn’t really have much of an issue with the guy until the 2016 run-up. Recently he wrote in the NY Post that it made no difference, that everything happening now would be the same with slight cosmetic changes if Rodham had been installed instead. It was a classic of the GOPe “Trump’s a Democrat” species of hot-take retardese.

    • LOL: Opinionator
  327. Is this post about JP and reprllent racist filth still going on? The one post that gets over three hundred comments and it turns out to be this one?

    Amazin’.

  328. @Expletive Deleted
    There's only one way to settle this ...
    for today's experiment, children, we're going to need
    * one Quinn (Zoe, Sally; IDGAF)
    * one steelyard, calibrated in long tons
    * one healthy duck

    It’s a fair cop.

  329. @anonguy

    Don’t you love how Joe Scarborough has morphed from looking like a normal red state dude to looking like a tranny version of Rachel Maddow? It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic. He is the cuck of all cucks.
     
    He's going to look like Olbermann before he is done.

    I wonder if Joe Scarborough will announce he is transitioning?

  330. @jesse helms think-alike
    Steve consider it an honour that this POS hates you.
    You can tell a lot about a person by his enemies

    I didnt know anything about Podheretz Jr until he started posting in the (National Review) "Corner" sometime in the middle of the Bush administration. Memory fades but i recall him hysterically attacking any immigration skeptic fellow Corner poster. Simply put anyone who didn't welcome the third world invasion was a racist monster.

    After he left to take over his hereditary position at Dysentery I happened to read a piece by him there that was unrecognizably (for him) sober, serious and well written.

    In hindsight it's now clear that the present day hijacking of NR by the neocons is the Left's revenge against the magazine they loved to hate in their youth. I recall a scene in Annie Hall where Woody is outraged that Diane Keaton reads NR; he tells her to call William F Buckley to kill the spider in her bathtub. By taking over NR, converting it from a conservative religious mouthpiece of traditional America to a forum for assorted liberal freaks they have crushed their enemies and achieved what is best in life. The fact that in doing so NR is nowadays irrelevant is a mere detail.

    This clip from Annie Hall shows Allen using a copy of NR to kill the spider.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX5BngxRWLg

    Yes, but THIS clip shows the line you referenced:

  331. @Jasper Been
    The only National Review writer I read now is the iconoclastic Armond White!

    What irony. White used to write for NY Press in the ’90s. He is black and gay. Despite or perhaps because of these factors, he is one of the few real conservatives there and says whatever he wants–in the tradition of tri-sexual Florence King, one of the best writers NR ever had.

  332. @Expletive Deleted
    There's only one way to settle this ...
    for today's experiment, children, we're going to need
    * one Quinn (Zoe, Sally; IDGAF)
    * one steelyard, calibrated in long tons
    * one healthy duck

    Who will play Sir Bedivere, exposing the logic of it all to the Deplorables?

  333. @AM

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.
     
    That's fine. Because except for Mr. Unz and few posters I wish I could here more from, the ethnic Jewish discussion on this board can be summarized as:

    "Jews are never wrong, Jews never have moral obligation to greater society, Christianity is stupid and backward, all that matters is verbal acumen, good food, social status, and tasteful buildings. Also Trump sucks (or is a liar, etc) because he repudiates every single secular Jewish idea of what's important."

    It's obvious that a few of you, at least, really have no idea you're wandering around as the stereotype you hate so much.

    That’s fine. Because except for Mr. Unz and few posters I wish I could here more from, the ethnic Jewish discussion on this board can be summarized as: “Jews are never wrong, Jews never have moral obligation to greater society, Christianity is stupid and backward, all that matters is verbal acumen, good food, social status, and tasteful buildings. Also Trump sucks (or is a liar, etc) because he repudiates every single secular Jewish idea of what’s important.”

    There aren’t many self-identified Jews posting here, and they generally have a thick hide. That aside, who do you fancy said or implied any of the foregoing?

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    "There aren’t many self-identified Jews posting here..."

    Well, I'd say it's at least 5% - and, when it comes to high-added-value posters like JackD & Lot, closer to 10 or 20%.

    Agreed that the rest of AM's post was kind of puzzling.
  334. @Opinionator
    Let us know when you come up with some evidence to prove your repeated claim in these parts that the Jews offered to return the West Bank to the Palestinians.

    Let us know when you come up with some evidence to prove your repeated claim in these parts that the Jews offered to return the West Bank to the Palestinians.

    You’re bound and determined to assiduously avoid reading period news accounts and the memoirs of the American officials involved. This I cannot help you with.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Just paste in a link to the evidence. It shouldn't be that difficult, unless your claim is false.
  335. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    So then I am correct regarding William Kristol. He's basically a hack through and through. The fact that he started out graduating from Harvard with alleged promise and hasn't done anything to warrant the moniker of intellectual makes the point. Thank you for coming to agree my premise, I do appreciate it.

    Again. One doesn't have to go to Harvard per Kristol to end up a hack. Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, even Rush are proving that every day.

    Thomas Fleming ended his career as ‘President’ of the Rockford Institute, which was a shell of what it had been at the time he acquired that position. Its only activity by that time was publishing a slim 10-issues-a-year magazine which had, at the time of his departure, about 12,000 paid subscribers. It had had 20,000 at one point but most of them decamped when he elected to act as a volunteer press agent for Slobodan Milosevic. As for Samuel Francis, his final years were spent editing the newsletter issued by the residuum of the old white Citizens’ Councils.

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career.
     
    You, for example, one might suspect.
    , @Carneades

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career by not hewing to the rabbinical line..
     
    There, fixed it for ya'.
  336. Meanwhile, events, or rather lack of events/drama, following the flooding are showing that in Houston our new diverse society can cope and did so quite well in this disaster.

    Sometimes the system does work relatively well, amazing as it may seem.

  337. @Art Deco
    Let us know when you come up with some evidence to prove your repeated claim in these parts that the Jews offered to return the West Bank to the Palestinians.

    You're bound and determined to assiduously avoid reading period news accounts and the memoirs of the American officials involved. This I cannot help you with.

    Just paste in a link to the evidence. It shouldn’t be that difficult, unless your claim is false.

  338. @Art Deco
    I've never read his dissertation. I assume there's a ProQuest copy available for a fee. I don't think it was published. (As most are not).

    "Standard neo-con talking points"? I'm out of air unpacking the inanity of phrases like this. The essential silliness aside, you don't think your end of the argument has 'standard talking points'? You all do, it's just that the audience for them is comparatively small.

    “Standard neo-con talking points”? I’m out of air unpacking the inanity of phrases like this.

    It’s a perfectly apt term to describe “standard neo-con talking points”. If you are too stupid to understand their agenda and understand that they have one, that is your problem, and perhaps unsurprising, as you are too stupid to understand a lot of things.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    It’s a perfectly apt term to describe “standard neo-con talking points”. If you are too stupid to understand their agenda

    The Coalition for a Democratic Majority, the Committee on the Present Danger, the Committee for the Free World and the editorial staffs of The Public Interest, Commentary, The American Scholar, and The New Criterion were a collection of opinion journalists and academics who are, for the most part, very old or dead. The junior-juniors in this crew were John Podhoretz and Michael Lind, both now in late middle-age. Elliot Abrams is nearly 70 and semi-retired. Joseph Epstein is 80. Norman Podhoretz is 87. Midge Decter is 90. Nathan Glazer is 93. Gertrude Himmelfarb is 95. Irving Kristol is deceased, as are Jeane Kirkpatrick, Seymour Martin Lipset, Sidney Hook, and Paul Nitze.

    Wm. Kristol is and always has been a Republican publicist whose views on public policy are quite similar to that of any other randomly selected Republican publicist. His range of interest and emphases are different from those of working politicians, but that's true of any opinion journalist or academic interested in public affairs. Wm. Kristol doesn't give a rip about political patronage manifest in tax cuts for the real estate business.

    There is not any sort of 'authentic' starboard dispensation at odds with what Kristol advocates. What Kristol advocates is the starboard in this country. Ron Paul is an eccentric dissident. So was Joseph Sobran. The popular base tapped by Paul is quite small and there really is no popular variant of what Thomas Fleming was peddling all those years.
  339. @Art Deco
    Thomas Fleming ended his career as 'President' of the Rockford Institute, which was a shell of what it had been at the time he acquired that position. Its only activity by that time was publishing a slim 10-issues-a-year magazine which had, at the time of his departure, about 12,000 paid subscribers. It had had 20,000 at one point but most of them decamped when he elected to act as a volunteer press agent for Slobodan Milosevic. As for Samuel Francis, his final years were spent editing the newsletter issued by the residuum of the old white Citizens' Councils.

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career.

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career.

    You, for example, one might suspect.

  340. @Art Deco
    Uh, no, no talking points at this end. Talking points implies that there is a larger source behind what people speak and have influenced them to regurgitate what is then repackaged.

    Most of the discussion that occurs at this site can be summarized thus: Jews be screwing everyone over, blacks be stupid, neocon neocon neocon warmonger, John McCain and Bibi the face of evil. A number of you are beyond caricature.

    No, that does not characterize “most of the discussion that occurs at this site”. You perhaps think it does, because you are to busy lecturing/hectoring everyone, rather than read what they say. If you weren’t such an insufferable, smug prig, you might recognize that. But then, if you weren’t an insufferable, smug prig, you wouldn’t be the brand known as “Art Deco”.

    Idiot.

  341. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    As far as a stand out unique intellectual of his generation, name a few intellectual concepts that William Kristol will be recalled for decades from now. What exactly is he known for, aside from parroting the standard neocon talking points of the day? He was once a speechwriter for Dan Quayle, which isn't saying much since Dan Quayle is barely recalled today among standard conservatives, much less cared about on the Alt. Right. And he's a talking head on FOX News, not really a breeding ground for new innovative ideas. Weekly Standard, same thing.

    What intellectual idea, trope, or theme is he known for creating? I'd say not much of anything. That's why the image of him persists as little more than a neoconservative hack. With each passing decade, that perception appears to be accurate. Irony is, he didn't have to go to Harvard to be a career hack. Sean Hannity proves that every day.

    Leave it to a non-entity like Art Deco to defend a non-entity like William Kristol. I guess non-entities have to stick together.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    There are dozens of remarks here slamming one 'non-entity' and another clutch of remarks from you lobbing yet more insults at the other 'non-entity'. If we're just 'non-entities', what's the point?
  342. @Art Deco
    Thomas Fleming ended his career as 'President' of the Rockford Institute, which was a shell of what it had been at the time he acquired that position. Its only activity by that time was publishing a slim 10-issues-a-year magazine which had, at the time of his departure, about 12,000 paid subscribers. It had had 20,000 at one point but most of them decamped when he elected to act as a volunteer press agent for Slobodan Milosevic. As for Samuel Francis, his final years were spent editing the newsletter issued by the residuum of the old white Citizens' Councils.

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career.

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career by not hewing to the rabbinical line..

    There, fixed it for ya’.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Francis was a specialist in 17th century English history and Fleming a philosopher (with anthopological themes). Not sure what you fancy 'the rabbinical line' might have had to do with anything they researched or published. They're just another pair of academic humanists who found there wasn't work for them. I had three neighbors in my adolescent years in the same situation. One was bounced off the faculty of SUNY Oswego consequent to budget cuts, another had been denied tenure at Nazareth College, and a third IIRC had never found a faculty job. They spent the rest of their work lives as high school teachers and guidance counselors. None of them had a case of the Jew thing nor were given to S. Francis' white-power shtick, so I suppose their career disappointments do not interest you.
  343. @Art Deco
    I notice that you didn’t answer the question:

    No, you didn't digest the answer I gave him. His original work is incorporated in his doctoral dissertation. It was never published and I haven't read it. If you want to read it, go to a university library where you have borrowing privileges and place an inter-library loan request for it. They can obtain a microfilm or digital copy. (UMI used to produce these. UMI was then bought by ProQuest).

    Why don’t you just do it for him. You are a university librarian, are you not?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    I doubt many reference librarians get questions along the lines of 'can you prove to me the Presidential election of 1996 took place?". There is ProQuest full-text nowadays. Back in the day, they'd just have taken you to the NYT microfilms for early November, 1996. Where you do get such questions, it's in the central library downtown where you find a certain number of articulate vagrants felled by schizophrenia at an early age.
  344. @Art Deco
    That’s fine. Because except for Mr. Unz and few posters I wish I could here more from, the ethnic Jewish discussion on this board can be summarized as: “Jews are never wrong, Jews never have moral obligation to greater society, Christianity is stupid and backward, all that matters is verbal acumen, good food, social status, and tasteful buildings. Also Trump sucks (or is a liar, etc) because he repudiates every single secular Jewish idea of what’s important.”

    There aren't many self-identified Jews posting here, and they generally have a thick hide. That aside, who do you fancy said or implied any of the foregoing?

    “There aren’t many self-identified Jews posting here…”

    Well, I’d say it’s at least 5% – and, when it comes to high-added-value posters like JackD & Lot, closer to 10 or 20%.

    Agreed that the rest of AM’s post was kind of puzzling.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    I'd add International Jew to the all-star list.

    Post-Tenure Tourettes has a blog that also comments sometimes from a specifically Jewish angle, and may occasionally comment here.

    It's nice to have a Safe Space where these things can be debated vigorously, without any of us losing our jobs over it (so far)
    , @Anon
    The key lies in AM's comment history; she's had several long discussions with JackD along those lines and several with others.

    I don't see the evidence that Jewish commenters here are particularly thick-skinned. On Unz off Sailer's blog, okay, but not here.
  345. @Achilles
    In light of the potential threat to POTUS, perhaps agents of the Voodoo Division of the Secret Service should pay a visit to Sally Quinn ...

    BTW, if anyone can find an on-line version of Clay Felker’s epic takedown of Sally Quinn in 1973 New York magazine, please post a link.

  346. @Vinteuil
    "There aren’t many self-identified Jews posting here..."

    Well, I'd say it's at least 5% - and, when it comes to high-added-value posters like JackD & Lot, closer to 10 or 20%.

    Agreed that the rest of AM's post was kind of puzzling.

    I’d add International Jew to the all-star list.

    Post-Tenure Tourettes has a blog that also comments sometimes from a specifically Jewish angle, and may occasionally comment here.

    It’s nice to have a Safe Space where these things can be debated vigorously, without any of us losing our jobs over it (so far)

  347. Steve posted earlier that his mentioning the “Weinsteins” was the real trigger for this intemperate outburst. The photoshop picture is pretty innocuous and not really worth much mention. It’s also not very apt because the Weinstein version would have a 300 pound AA welfare queen in a mumu carrying a white cowboy in jeans, western shirt and 10 gallon hat to safety.
    It could be that this vile slob is most angry that Steve is calling attention to who controls the media.

  348. Hmm, I had been more familiar with Podhoretz’s body of work under his other byline, “Verrit.com authentication code 0443114”

  349. @Forbes
    Well, the better known Weinstein brother is Harvey--so the choice makes complete sense in many ways.

    I bet few can name the other brother...

    Bob. A similar constellation to Albert Brooks and his lesser known brother Bob Einstein. In bother cases, the more famous brother is bigger and more flamboyant, while second banana Bob is thinner and more reserved.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    This may be the first time that Albert Brooks has been described as physically big.
  350. @Carneades

    Lots of people fail at the task of building an academic career by not hewing to the rabbinical line..
     
    There, fixed it for ya'.

    Francis was a specialist in 17th century English history and Fleming a philosopher (with anthopological themes). Not sure what you fancy ‘the rabbinical line’ might have had to do with anything they researched or published. They’re just another pair of academic humanists who found there wasn’t work for them. I had three neighbors in my adolescent years in the same situation. One was bounced off the faculty of SUNY Oswego consequent to budget cuts, another had been denied tenure at Nazareth College, and a third IIRC had never found a faculty job. They spent the rest of their work lives as high school teachers and guidance counselors. None of them had a case of the Jew thing nor were given to S. Francis’ white-power shtick, so I suppose their career disappointments do not interest you.

  351. @Mr. Anon
    Leave it to a non-entity like Art Deco to defend a non-entity like William Kristol. I guess non-entities have to stick together.

    There are dozens of remarks here slamming one ‘non-entity’ and another clutch of remarks from you lobbing yet more insults at the other ‘non-entity’. If we’re just ‘non-entities’, what’s the point?

  352. @Mr. Anon

    “Standard neo-con talking points”? I’m out of air unpacking the inanity of phrases like this.
     
    It's a perfectly apt term to describe "standard neo-con talking points". If you are too stupid to understand their agenda and understand that they have one, that is your problem, and perhaps unsurprising, as you are too stupid to understand a lot of things.

    It’s a perfectly apt term to describe “standard neo-con talking points”. If you are too stupid to understand their agenda

    The Coalition for a Democratic Majority, the Committee on the Present Danger, the Committee for the Free World and the editorial staffs of The Public Interest, Commentary, The American Scholar, and The New Criterion were a collection of opinion journalists and academics who are, for the most part, very old or dead. The junior-juniors in this crew were John Podhoretz and Michael Lind, both now in late middle-age. Elliot Abrams is nearly 70 and semi-retired. Joseph Epstein is 80. Norman Podhoretz is 87. Midge Decter is 90. Nathan Glazer is 93. Gertrude Himmelfarb is 95. Irving Kristol is deceased, as are Jeane Kirkpatrick, Seymour Martin Lipset, Sidney Hook, and Paul Nitze.

    Wm. Kristol is and always has been a Republican publicist whose views on public policy are quite similar to that of any other randomly selected Republican publicist. His range of interest and emphases are different from those of working politicians, but that’s true of any opinion journalist or academic interested in public affairs. Wm. Kristol doesn’t give a rip about political patronage manifest in tax cuts for the real estate business.

    There is not any sort of ‘authentic’ starboard dispensation at odds with what Kristol advocates. What Kristol advocates is the starboard in this country. Ron Paul is an eccentric dissident. So was Joseph Sobran. The popular base tapped by Paul is quite small and there really is no popular variant of what Thomas Fleming was peddling all those years.

  353. @Mr. Anon
    Why don't you just do it for him. You are a university librarian, are you not?

    I doubt many reference librarians get questions along the lines of ‘can you prove to me the Presidential election of 1996 took place?”. There is ProQuest full-text nowadays. Back in the day, they’d just have taken you to the NYT microfilms for early November, 1996. Where you do get such questions, it’s in the central library downtown where you find a certain number of articulate vagrants felled by schizophrenia at an early age.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @res

    certain number of articulate vagrants felled by schizophrenia at an early age.
     
    What is it with the incredible verbalness of those people? Many of them can just not stop talking. Is there a medical explanation? Occasionally they even say interesting things, but the verbal onslaught is simply overwhelming to me.
  354. @Art Deco
    I doubt many reference librarians get questions along the lines of 'can you prove to me the Presidential election of 1996 took place?". There is ProQuest full-text nowadays. Back in the day, they'd just have taken you to the NYT microfilms for early November, 1996. Where you do get such questions, it's in the central library downtown where you find a certain number of articulate vagrants felled by schizophrenia at an early age.

    certain number of articulate vagrants felled by schizophrenia at an early age.

    What is it with the incredible verbalness of those people? Many of them can just not stop talking. Is there a medical explanation? Occasionally they even say interesting things, but the verbal onslaught is simply overwhelming to me.

  355. @Vinteuil
    "There aren’t many self-identified Jews posting here..."

    Well, I'd say it's at least 5% - and, when it comes to high-added-value posters like JackD & Lot, closer to 10 or 20%.

    Agreed that the rest of AM's post was kind of puzzling.

    The key lies in AM’s comment history; she’s had several long discussions with JackD along those lines and several with others.

    I don’t see the evidence that Jewish commenters here are particularly thick-skinned. On Unz off Sailer’s blog, okay, but not here.

  356. @Z-man
    Blaks be dummm, Jooz be eevul, Neocoons luv warz for their goals as long as it kills other peeps and the Zionazis will never give up an inch (virtually) of occupied Palestine.

    And Whites be…?

  357. @El Dato
    How many Spirit Cooking Phenomena are there out there??

    Wouldn’t know. I generally use the microwave.

  358. @el topo
    Bob. A similar constellation to Albert Brooks and his lesser known brother Bob Einstein. In bother cases, the more famous brother is bigger and more flamboyant, while second banana Bob is thinner and more reserved.

    This may be the first time that Albert Brooks has been described as physically big.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Brooks' brother SuperDave Einstein is a big guy.
  359. @Broski
    Like who? Oh, like John Stewart, Kirk and Michael Douglas, Mel Brooks, Bret Stephens, and etc.?

    The term for this is crypsis. It's like that line from the Usual Suspects: "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

    There weren’t many Jewish kids in Davenport. One was surnamed Edwards, another Katz, another Dunkin, another Kramer, and finally Kuekerans. Then there was Rogers who I thought was Italian but who turned out to be Greek, the Irish Catholics Smith, Jones, and Dickinson, and Irish-Polish-French Canadian me. I will not disclose my own surname because I’ve already given up too much personal information about myself on this page.

    I think Mr. Lowry the editor of NR is a member of the Irish Brotherhood; I’m not sure. I think the publisher is Jack Fowler and think it would possibly be a mistake to confer WASPdom on him just based on his surname.

    The notion that the greatest trick of the devil is to deny his own existence should properly be credited to C. S. Lewis. And if you believe that the Jews and/or the Greeks and/or the Italians and/or the Irish, etc. are Devils, please don’t assume any support for that kind of belief from me.

  360. The follicularly challenged Podhoretz may be jealous, and that led him to a subconscious admission: he was thinking of happy childhood bath times when Mommy lathered him up with Prell shampoo, then rinsed and repeated. Hence, reprllent.

    Sorry, John. Those memories of a bygone world went down the drain with your delusions and hair.

  361. @ScarletNumber
    This may be the first time that Albert Brooks has been described as physically big.

    Brooks’ brother SuperDave Einstein is a big guy.

  362. He has a comically deep voice. Maybe he’ll be back as Marty Funkhouser in Curb Your Enthusiasm next month.

  363. @Broski
    Don't you love how Joe Scarborough has morphed from looking like a normal red state dude to looking like a tranny version of Rachel Maddow? It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. He is the cuck of all cucks.

    I’ve always thought Rachel Maddow looked like the tranny version of Rachel Maddow. But nice dig at Scarborough.

  364. @MDCLXVI
    This reminds me of when he called you "a scum"!!!!

    MDCLXVI writes: This reminds me of when he called you “a scum”!!!!

    I do not know John Podhoretz well, but I have always assumed that Podhoretz (maybe I’m confusing him with his father) is at least a cultured native speaker of English. Considering the wording “a loathsome reprllent racist filth”, the “reprllent” can be excused as a mistyping done in a state of agitation, but any native speaker would treat “filth” as a mass noun, not a count noun. The wording “a filth” — like “a scum” — is pure foreign-sounding illiteracy.

  365. @Charles Pewitt
    You say:

    I almost feel sorry for Podhoretz. It would be interesting to force him to engage in reasoned argument and not let the dialogue default to name calling back and forth.

     

    I say:

    John Podhoretz wants to maintain the power the Neo-Cons now have in the American Empire. Poddy does not want to engage in "reasoned argument." The Neo-Cons must be confronted directly on what they are and what they want to do with the power they now have in the American Empire.

    The Alt-Right is rising because "conservatives" made an evil deal to allow the Neo-Cons into the ruling class of the American Empire. The Alt-Right seeks to dislodge the Neo-Cons from power. I am aware that creatures such as John Podhoretz can in no way be "reasoned" with. John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons must be removed from the Republican Party and the ruling class of the American Empire.

    The Alt-Right is rising because people are wondering just what it is that so-called "conservatives" are actually conserving.

    John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons are using the American Empire as muscle to do Israel's dirty work. The Alt-Right says no to fighting wars on behalf of Israel. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons were big backers of the Iraq War debacle.

    Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons push nation-wrecking mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons are enemies of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Reasoned argument exposes them. Which is why Podhoretz presses discourse in the direction of name calling, insults.

  366. @Charles Pewitt
    You say:

    I almost feel sorry for Podhoretz. It would be interesting to force him to engage in reasoned argument and not let the dialogue default to name calling back and forth.

     

    I say:

    John Podhoretz wants to maintain the power the Neo-Cons now have in the American Empire. Poddy does not want to engage in "reasoned argument." The Neo-Cons must be confronted directly on what they are and what they want to do with the power they now have in the American Empire.

    The Alt-Right is rising because "conservatives" made an evil deal to allow the Neo-Cons into the ruling class of the American Empire. The Alt-Right seeks to dislodge the Neo-Cons from power. I am aware that creatures such as John Podhoretz can in no way be "reasoned" with. John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons must be removed from the Republican Party and the ruling class of the American Empire.

    The Alt-Right is rising because people are wondering just what it is that so-called "conservatives" are actually conserving.

    John Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons are using the American Empire as muscle to do Israel's dirty work. The Alt-Right says no to fighting wars on behalf of Israel. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons were big backers of the Iraq War debacle.

    Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons push nation-wrecking mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Podhoretz and the Neo-Cons are enemies of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    John Podhoretz wants to maintain the power the Neo-Cons now have in the American Empire.

    Podhoretz and his social circle haven’t any power and there is no Empire.

  367. @anonguy

    If someone knows what they’re doing, fishing for smallies or walleye on a great body of water – Lake Erie or Lake St. Clair – can be far more intellectually engaging than a non-fisherman could ever conceive.
     
    Skeptical.

    Do a substantial amount of people regularly travel from afar to go bass fishing on the Great Lakes, like from other countries. I really don't know, but if not, it is then just simply a local diversion of no particular note or merit other than it is nearby.
  368. @Anonymous
    OT:
    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/tensions-rise-as-chinese-governments-influence-infiltrates-aussie-universities/news-story/e7768b0bb1f5953a7608884527387372

    Chinese students are policing their lecturers according to Chicom policy. It's going to work out real swell when they are 51% of the country.

    Ignorance is obviously not bliss for you. The Chinese or former Chinese Australians living in Australia are neither numerous nor reproducing notably faster than they do in China (where urbanisation continues to do what the one child policy did). Furthermore their numbers continue to be offset by approximately equal numbers of Indians as well as established cohorts like those who were allowed to stay after the Tiananmen Square affair.

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