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From Politico:

Biden’s own academic career was unimpressive—he repeated the third grade, earned all Cs and Ds in his first three semesters at the University of Delaware except for As in P.E., a B in “Great English Writers” and an F in ROTC, and graduated 76th in his Syracuse Law School class of 85 students.

Back in 2002, I wrote an article entitled “Should You Redshirt Your Child?” giving the pros and cons of holding your kid back for a year before or during school so that he or she will be older than most classmates.

The term “redshirt” comes from college sports, where it’s frequent for athletes to sit out a year so that they’ll be older, bigger and more mature when they do play. More and more parents, and even states, are now doing something similar with their little ones, for roughly the same reasons.

After I wrote this article, I received some anguished emails from parents asking for advice on whether or not to hold their sons back for year, but I had to confess that I really didn’t know.

I haven’t found any confirmation for Biden repeating third grade, but that is not out of line with his Wikipedia biography:

Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was born on November 20, 1942 …

Biden attended the Archmere Academy in Claymont, where he was a standout halfback and wide receiver on the high school football team; he helped lead a perennially losing team to an undefeated season in his senior year. He played on the baseball team as well. Academically, he was a poor student but was considered a natural leader among the students and elected class president during his junior and senior years. He graduated in 1961.

He earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in 1965 from the University of Delaware, with a double major in history and political science and a minor in English. He played halfback for the Blue Hens freshman football team. In 1964, he met and eventually married Neilia Hunter. He played varsity football as a defensive back.

So, having been born in November 1942, if Joe graduated from high school in June 1961, he would have been about 18 years and 7 months old.

In contrast, I was born in December 1958 and graduated from high school in June 1976 at about the age of 17 years and 6 months. On the other hand, there was some controversy back in the summer of 1964 about whether I was too young to enter. My father told the nuns at St. Francis de Sales, “My son is ready for school and will be bored if he has to wait another year to enter first grade so we will go somewhere else.” So they let me in even though I was a little to0 young. I vaguely recall that the cutoff date back then at St. Francis for entering first grade was was to have been born by December 1, which I just missed (although I may be mistaken: after all, I was only 5 years old while these negotiations were going on.) So I entered first grade at roughly 5 years and 9 months.

I see from the St. Francis website that the cutoff date is currently September 1, or approximately 6 years and 0 months. (Another change over last half century is that the first day of the school year has generally moved from September to August.) This is a general trend, with a large number of states making the age of starting school a few months higher.

My surmise, assuming that Politico’s statement is accurate, would be that Joe entered first grade at roughly 5 years and 10 months, which was marginally early back then. Perhaps due to his stutter, his parents eventually decided that is entering first grade before age 6 had been a mistake and it would be best to have him repeat third grade.

At age 77, Joe is the Democratic Party’s nominee for President of the United States, so it appears that his parents’ decision 70 years ago turned out for the best in Joe’s case.

One might theorize that Biden’s alpha male fighter jock affect (although he likes to wear aviator sunglasses and drive convertible Corvettes, Biden, like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, managed to avoid service during the Vietnam Era: “Biden received student draft deferments during this period. After he completed his studies, the Selective Service System classified him as unavailable for service due to a history of asthma”) has something to do with him being older and more dominant than the other kids in his classes after 3rd grade.

In contrast, my rather meek and mild in-person personality tends to disappoint my readers when they finally meet me. Although that’s probably mostly just who I am, I sometimes wonder if I hadn’t started first grade so young, maybe I’d be more of a dominant personality in face to face conversations.

That leads to the question of whether the redshirting phenomenon has been studied by academics over the last 18 years since I last wrote about it in depth.

 
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  1. The excessively long parenthetical statement makes it hard to understand the third-to-last paragraph. I had to read it twice to find the point the parentheses began.

    • Agree: Jim Bob Lassiter
  2. In contrast, my rather meek and mild in-person personality tends to disappoint my readers when they finally meet me.

    I don’t see why. You seem meek and mild on the internet as well, especially on Twitter.

    I haven’t found any confirmation for Biden skipping third grade

    You mean repeating.

    That leads to the question of whether the redshirting phenomenon has been studied by academics over the last 18 years since I last wrote about it in depth.

    I don’t know if you are being facetious, as Malcolm Gladwell extensively covered it in Outliers.

    • Replies: @Alexander Turok
    @ScarletNumber


    Malcolm Gladwell
     
    LOL
  3. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve Sailer:

    “Joe Biden Repeated Third Grade: It Seems to Have Worked Out Well for Him”.

    The problem with you, Sailer, is that you are completely obsessed wih the concept of masculine dominance being the be-all-end-all of human Society and civilization, and so much of what you write about male celebrities has to do with their masculinity or lack thereof..

    The reality is that things are never that simple, and masculine dominance can manifest in myriad different ways, and in many cases chest-beating displays of dominance are flat-out counterpridctive to making you achieve positions of power/authority and come across as boorish, vulgar and as childish entitlement.

    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity

    • Disagree: BB753, Kronos, Ron Mexico
    • LOL: Pop Warner
    • Troll: Patrick in SC
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Anonymous

    Sailer is about seven feet tall and has an IQ north of Alaska, so he doesn't need to prove anything. That's why he speaks softly: He's a big stick.

    "Masculine dominance," as you call it, is a significant factor in the world. It's probably not studied enough, especially now that it's Bad.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Kronos

    , @Whiskey
    @Anonymous

    Masculine dominance is ALL our society is now, given that is is run on the social media whims of AWFLs and such.

    Black lives matter has dominated, and gotten White women globally to kneel and prostrate themselves, through masculine dominance. You don't see very many White men at these protests, but they are choc-a-bloc with young White women.

    Proof positive btw that White women are the eternal, and natural enemy of White men. Islam is right about women.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    Yet another autistic


    The problem with you, Sailer, ...
     
    bozo, with laughably incompetent analysis.

    Seriously, i'm sure Steve has a random collection of "problems" as do all we mortal men. (Mrs. Sailer probably even has a mental list.) But here on the iSteve, Steve's just Steve doing his Steve thing--noticing.

    If you can't figure that out, maybe "the problem is with you".
    , @Low energy noticer
    @Anonymous

    Sailer is old enough to know where he fits on this pecking order. He's a low-energy, low-T, tall, smart guy who, apart from his scary encounter with cancer, hasn't really struggled and suffered in life the way a majority of people on this earth do (being tall and smart helps!). Now it's obvious he wouldn't make a great leader of men, and I doubt he'd want to be one anyway, but he's uniquely equipped to do what he does now, and he has enough balls to notice and write non-PC stuff under his real name – that's why his readership is so large.

    Masculine dominance manifested in every way (including chest-beating sometimes) is the main drive of human society and civilization; just read any history book if you don't believe in that. Combined with enough smarts, it's what catapults you to positions of power; absent smarts, you die early and violently.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Peter D. Bredon

    , @Kronos
    @Anonymous


    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity
     
    Who let the gamma in here?

    Steve’s assumptions really are good rules of thumb. His marketing background definitely helps him understand on what sells and what doesn’t. Masculinity and dominance are highly attractive to both men and women. Tom Wolfe incorporated that observation in various ways in his books. Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.) Wolfe incorporated various traits he witnessed in Atlanta into that character.

    https://www.amazon.com/Man-Full-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0553381334

    Currently, society is experiencing a revolt against the natural order of feminine beauty and masculine strength. The feminists are winning somewhat in arm twisting media outlets in promoting ugly fat women, but then sells drop (from the female demographic no less) and they revert back to the status quo. Thankfully, the same effect isn’t being used to promote weak men nearly as much. Both genders (there are only two) find that disgusting and the demand isn’t there.

    https://i.insider.com/519ce57d69bedd3c5c000007?width=1190

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @anon, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter, @dvorak

  4. Has it ever happened before that both Prez and VP went to mediocre colleges?
    Harris/Biden are 0 for 4. (Also: how often were both lawyers?)

    • Replies: @Flip
    @anon

    Johnson/Humphrey depending on what you think of the University of Minnesota.

    , @Wilkey
    @anon

    Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine both have law degrees. But then they didn’t win.

    I’m still trying to fathom what the hell Hillary Clinton thought she was getting by selecting Kaine as her running mate. Are our political leaders that dreadful that she really thought he was the beat she could do?

    Replies: @Thirdtwin, @J.Ross

    , @Anonymous
    @anon

    Syracuse Law is decent, been around for 150 years.

    Some prominent NY and Washington pols as alum.

    , @bored
    @anon

    Has everyone in this country fallen to slavishly fawning on marquee brand colleges that crank out the sorcerers behind the witchery we have now?

  5. Red-shirting or not, Biden seems to have been lacking in real smarts all his life. What IQ can he possibly have left at nearly 77 years of age and possibly early stage senile dementia?

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @David In TN
    @BB753

    A favorite trope of the media and liberals in general going back to Adlai Stevenson is making a Democrat presidential nominee out to be of superhuman intelligence. This was used with Stevenson, JFK, Carter, Dukakis, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Obama and to a lesser extent maybe Al Gore.

    Even with John Kerry, a NY Times column declared "Kerry certainly has a higher IQ than George W. Bush."

    I believe Steve Sailer refuted that at the time.

    I recall during the Lewinsky Affair, a liberal columnist (don't remember the name) wrote something like "We've heard enough of Bill Clinton's supposed super intelligence." The inference was if Clinton was so smart, he wouldn't have been in the situation he was in.

  6. I read recently that people consistently underestimate their conversation skills. I’m sure that’s what’s going on with your meek and mild personality. I read it on twitter so it must be true!

  7. Try dropping out of high school, getting some life experience on the road and in the woods, even working a job for part of that time and saving some money, and then starting college at age 21. Girls, girls, girls! A’s, A’s, A’s. (I mean the grades, but also the anatomy 🙂 )

    It wasn’t really my plan, but that’s how it went for me.

    As the saying goes, “Youth is wasted on the young.” Someone older, but still young enough, can capitalize on his experience and development.

    (Oh, the other advantage was that I was old enough to go buy kegs of beer and bring them back in the enormous trunk of my ’67 Chevy Biscayne.)

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Buzz Mohawk

    How about working at 18 while doing online distance learning?

    , @GLT
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I came to the same conclusion, while finishing early. Will strongly recommend this to my son. Well, maybe 2 gap years / age 20 start.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Buzz Mohawk


    “Youth is wasted on the young.”
     
    Confirmed.
    , @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Try dropping out of high school, getting some life experience on the road and in the woods, even working a job for part of that time and saving some money, and then starting college at age 21. Girls, girls, girls! A’s, A’s, A’s. (I mean the grades, but also the anatomy 🙂 )
     
    What sort of college did you go to? Simple curiosity.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  8. Why is “meek” generally a euphemism for “nag”?

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    @miss marple

    The meek shall inherit the earth. Supposedly.

    I really hope it isn’t the nags who inherit it.

  9. Up until around 1970 the cutoff for ages was January 1. So if you were to be 6 by January 1 you could enroll in first grade. Parents were encouraged to use their best judgment. I enrolled at 5 and was either the smartest or second smartest in my class. I was a bit of a “late bloomer.” It can be hard being physically younger than one’s classmates. I actually spent a lot of time with kids two grades below me. This was in part because a bunch of them were from my neighborhood and we grew up playing together.

  10. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Joe Biden Repeated Third Grade: It Seems to Have Worked Out Well for Him".

    The problem with you, Sailer, is that you are completely obsessed wih the concept of masculine dominance being the be-all-end-all of human Society and civilization, and so much of what you write about male celebrities has to do with their masculinity or lack thereof..

    The reality is that things are never that simple, and masculine dominance can manifest in myriad different ways, and in many cases chest-beating displays of dominance are flat-out counterpridctive to making you achieve positions of power/authority and come across as boorish, vulgar and as childish entitlement.

    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Whiskey, @AnotherDad, @Low energy noticer, @Kronos

    Sailer is about seven feet tall and has an IQ north of Alaska, so he doesn’t need to prove anything. That’s why he speaks softly: He’s a big stick.

    “Masculine dominance,” as you call it, is a significant factor in the world. It’s probably not studied enough, especially now that it’s Bad.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Sailer is about seven feet tall
     
    Meatballs (5/9) Movie CLIP - Campfire Story (1979) HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuWjXrFh1qQ

    https://twitter.com/steve_sailer/status/1105363833969729536
    , @Kronos
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Big dogs don’t need to bark so much.

    https://idworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Big-vs-little41.jpg

  11. F in ROTC?

    Biden wants to be CIC?

    Will he, as did Obama, pronounce Navy Corpsman as if it were spelled Navy Corpseman?

    I wonder how DJT fared in ROTC?

    Aside: Does anyone else find themselves preoccupied with questions about the origins of SARS-COV2 (COVID-19, coronavirus, etc.)? It seems to be very convenient for the Democrats. Just the timeline, where “the media” was able to jump from one anti-Trump moral panic to another, is very disconcerting.

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    @Coemgen

    Regarding your last question, I am not “preoccupied”. But your observations and conclusions are certainly correct. It has been a PsyOp.

    , @Polynikes
    @Coemgen

    An "F" in ROTC. Can't join the Army because of "asthma," but he can play football. Repeated the 3rd grade (lol). Lied all the way through and after his "academic" career.

    He apparently got all the way through his political career on some charisma and a social-IQ. He doesn't seem to have much of that left, though.

    What a wild ride.

    , @e
    @Coemgen

    Will he, as did Obama, pronounce Navy Corpsman as if it were spelled Navy Corpseman?

    I've never forgotten that. Obama did that twice in the space of a few months. That from a guy that is supposed to be widely read and from someone raised in state that boasts a major Naval history.

    I've also never forgotten his pathetic display of 25 consecutive, uncontested MISSED shots at a basket on a playground, almost all of them the distance of a free throw or less. He seemed much more interested in making sure his wrist was stylishly limp as the ball left his hand. I thought that to be very symbolic of who Obama is, a guy who tries to use form/style to substitute for substance.

    , @Sean
    @Coemgen

    Democratic narrative would be a Trump presidency as as an expression of America's sickness, while SARS-COV2 is an external event. Traditionally, American patients are reassured by being told that "It's probably just a virus", because that indicates they are basically in good health.

  12. Here’s a case that might interest Sailer or somebody:

    A kid is skipping his senior year of high school to go on and start his college football career.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904680-5-star-recruit-jack-sawyer-to-skip-senior-hs-season-enroll-early-at-ohio-state

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Ohio State is all online next semester and the football season cancelled (Big Ten Conference cancelled).

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @Jane Plain
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Why? So that he might be recruited into the National Felon League, where he'll be required to kneel to the new BLM god?

    , @anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can get incomparably better training/coaching/everything at the University as opposed to high school. Quarterbacks (in particular) have been doing it for their spring semester of senior year for a while.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Ohio is leaving Fall HS football up to localities. His district may or may not play in the Fall. Here in Michigan the entire HS football season was moved to the Spring. This might be a good decision on his part.

  13. Wow,just think ,where would he be today if he hadn’t been held back a year.

    • LOL: Rob McX
  14. Dominance has little to do with size and everything to do with attitude. Sleepy Joe has plenty of attitude. He’s one of those people who walk through life thinking they are rock stars, and after more than a few buy into it, they become rock stars, even when, like Joe, they repeatedly demonstrate how unremarkable they really are.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @The Alarmist

    "You can satisfy self by appropriating the feeling that you are what you want to be. And this assumption though false, that is, although reason and the senses deny it, if persisted in will harden into fact. By actually embodying that which you have assumed you are, you have the capacity to become completely satisfied." -- Neville Goddard.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2016/03/the-secret-of-trumps-a-peale/

  15. Anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:

    In contrast, my rather meek and mild in-person personality tends to disappoint my readers when they finally meet me. Although that’s probably mostly just who I am, I sometimes wonder if I hadn’t started first grade so young, maybe I’d be more of a dominant personality in face to face conversations.

    Had you picked a career as a cop or salesman* or military officer you would’ve developed a confident, assertive personality. In a lot of jobs you gotta do a lot of flexin and pretty soon the act you develop becomes your personality. Sort of like how during an interview an actor will still be in character from their most recent role. Had that role been the same their whole career it would become ingrained in their personality.

    *Trump’s first dream/goal was to go to USC and become an actor. He had to settle for the family real estate business.

  16. @Buzz Mohawk
    Here's a case that might interest Sailer or somebody:

    A kid is skipping his senior year of high school to go on and start his college football career.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904680-5-star-recruit-jack-sawyer-to-skip-senior-hs-season-enroll-early-at-ohio-state

    https://www.cleveland.com/resizer/Kv-jwxRghaLuqKyYeQNTz-yyTvM=/1280x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/INVYFP2ZJNGN7FEOHBY2PLNZLI.jpeg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @anon, @Ron Mexico

    Ohio State is all online next semester and the football season cancelled (Big Ten Conference cancelled).

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous

    When did the Nice Midwestern Boys of The Big Ten become such pu****s?

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  17. Not sure the premise is right. I was eighteen when I graduated from high school in 1983, as were the great majority of my classmates.

  18. I started Kindergarten when I was 4 years, 10 mos. I was super asocial and quiet (meek) but when I returned for 1st grade, I was a loud 5-year-old Alpha trouble-maker who wouldn’t shut up.

    If it happens in Kindergarten or 1st grade, does it matter? It will happen; our nature will manifest eventually.

    BTW, I’m not POTUS (yet) but I am still quiet and asocial but I stew in subdued masculinity.

  19. @miss marple
    Why is "meek" generally a euphemism for "nag"?

    Replies: @Jasper Been

    The meek shall inherit the earth. Supposedly.

    I really hope it isn’t the nags who inherit it.

  20. @Coemgen
    F in ROTC?

    Biden wants to be CIC?

    Will he, as did Obama, pronounce Navy Corpsman as if it were spelled Navy Corpseman?

    I wonder how DJT fared in ROTC?

    Aside: Does anyone else find themselves preoccupied with questions about the origins of SARS-COV2 (COVID-19, coronavirus, etc.)? It seems to be very convenient for the Democrats. Just the timeline, where “the media” was able to jump from one anti-Trump moral panic to another, is very disconcerting.

    Replies: @Jasper Been, @Polynikes, @e, @Sean

    Regarding your last question, I am not “preoccupied”. But your observations and conclusions are certainly correct. It has been a PsyOp.

  21. Biden did well in Great English Writers because he was already collecting stuff to plagiarize

    • LOL: fish
  22. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    An aside, Archmere is a very good private school in Public School-poor Delaware. Athletics may have gotten him in.

    Also, Biden’s grades in HS and College weren’t that bad considering the ridiculous Grade Inflation over the last 50-60 years. Teachers give out As like candy now.

    It is still astonishing that he passed the Bar Exam though with such poor academic skills though. That should be investigated.

    • Replies: @Con Moto
    @Anonymous

    His son Beau failed the bar in Delaware three times. Might back up your theisis. Or maybe between father and son taking the bar it became more difficult as Delaware became America's tax shelter. I've heard it's among the more difficult states to pass.

    , @ES
    @Anonymous

    Delaware had good public schools in the pre-busing era. The purpose of Archmere Academy was to protect Catholic schoolchildren from Protestant influences. How did that work out in Joe's case? What's his view on abortion rights?

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  23. Joe Biden – with his false teeth – increasingly reminds me of the Marvel character ‘Ghost Rider’, who is, or was, a stylized human skeleton with improbable long blond hair.

  24. @ScarletNumber

    In contrast, my rather meek and mild in-person personality tends to disappoint my readers when they finally meet me.
     
    I don't see why. You seem meek and mild on the internet as well, especially on Twitter.

    I haven’t found any confirmation for Biden skipping third grade
     
    You mean repeating.

    That leads to the question of whether the redshirting phenomenon has been studied by academics over the last 18 years since I last wrote about it in depth.
     
    I don't know if you are being facetious, as Malcolm Gladwell extensively covered it in Outliers.

    Replies: @Alexander Turok

    Malcolm Gladwell

    LOL

  25. My parents would probably be arrested today for altering my birth certificate and changing my birthday from October 26th to October 6th to make me eligible to enroll in school. Apparently the cutoff date was somewhere in between those two dates. Later on, once I was in school, I reverted to my actual birthday which meant I was still eligible for Little League as a 12 year old when most of my friends were not. I led the league in homeruns and got mad when someone had the effrontery to hit a ground ball or pop up when I was pitching and ruin my ‘perfect game’ -18 batters , 18 strike outs! I was a good hitter even in high school but my dominance in Little League was because the peers I played with were 13 and up and I was competing with genuine 12 year olds or younger.

    Baseball isn’t a particularly dangerous sport but I have heard of 19 and even 20 year olds still eligible to play high school football. That is dangerous and should be banned.

  26. Biden won’t take interviews and they are not letting reporters ask questions. He must be pretty far down the dementia path at this point. I bet there won’t be any debates. Maybe Trump has a chance. I would worry about giving Harris the reigns of power.

  27. With terrible grades in college, how did Biden get into any law school? Was it easier then or was his family connected? I assume you can’t get into Syracuse Law School with those grades today.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Federalist

    Fed, My question exactly. Did he ace theLSAT? Doubt that and Syracuse was well regarded back then fallen off since.

  28. Biden skipping third grade,

    Repeated, not skipped. Totally different.

  29. Did the Bidens redshirt their own kids?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @George

    In another sense.

  30. @Buzz Mohawk
    Here's a case that might interest Sailer or somebody:

    A kid is skipping his senior year of high school to go on and start his college football career.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904680-5-star-recruit-jack-sawyer-to-skip-senior-hs-season-enroll-early-at-ohio-state

    https://www.cleveland.com/resizer/Kv-jwxRghaLuqKyYeQNTz-yyTvM=/1280x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/INVYFP2ZJNGN7FEOHBY2PLNZLI.jpeg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @anon, @Ron Mexico

    Why? So that he might be recruited into the National Felon League, where he’ll be required to kneel to the new BLM god?

  31. Currently promoted stories about Biden overcoming a once bad stutter seem a red herring as regards his current verbal problems, which in all probability mainly derive from his extremely serious brain bleed of 1988, and aging of defective genes (son died in 40s of brain cancer). I think Biden wears sunglasses a lot at least partly because he has some light sensitivity remaining from 1988. He also has a tendency to hark back to bygone people and events when public speaking. Even caught himself mentioning the 1951 Plymouth he used to drive in high school. Never really forget your first car, but I think he finds it a little difficult to recall current information under stress.

    Even without his specific (2003 surgery removed gall bladder, orthopedic problems, an irregular heartbeat, high cholesterol, and takes blood thinners) medical history, there is around a one in five chance of a man of Biden’s age dying in the next four and a half years. My bet would be Biden suffers a minor stroke-type event when the campaign heats up, and is rested on some pretext. Watch for eyelid drooping. Harris will replace him as President soon as decently (senescently?) possible, which may be before August 2021. Considering that as Vice President, Biden wanted to arm Ukraine while the situation was still fluid, it’s a good thing his stay in the White House will be a short one.

  32. @anon
    Has it ever happened before that both Prez and VP went to mediocre colleges?
    Harris/Biden are 0 for 4. (Also: how often were both lawyers?)

    Replies: @Flip, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @bored

    Johnson/Humphrey depending on what you think of the University of Minnesota.

  33. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Anonymous

    Sailer is about seven feet tall and has an IQ north of Alaska, so he doesn't need to prove anything. That's why he speaks softly: He's a big stick.

    "Masculine dominance," as you call it, is a significant factor in the world. It's probably not studied enough, especially now that it's Bad.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Kronos

    Sailer is about seven feet tall

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  34. @anon
    Has it ever happened before that both Prez and VP went to mediocre colleges?
    Harris/Biden are 0 for 4. (Also: how often were both lawyers?)

    Replies: @Flip, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @bored

    Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine both have law degrees. But then they didn’t win.

    I’m still trying to fathom what the hell Hillary Clinton thought she was getting by selecting Kaine as her running mate. Are our political leaders that dreadful that she really thought he was the beat she could do?

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
    @Wilkey

    “I’m still trying to fathom what the hell Hillary Clinton thought she was getting by selecting Kaine as her running mate.”

    He looked a lot like her dad, is all I can figure...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/20/us/politics/hillary-clinton-draws-scrappy-determination-from-a-tough-combative-father.html

    , @J.Ross
    @Wilkey

    Rumor but almost certainly true: a person who claims to have worked With Her says Hillary needs everyone in the room to know that she has the biggest thing women don't normally have, and let there be no confusion. Tim Kaine's semi-liquid face and craven positions suggest that he actually would be an excellent fit, because he would never get in the way or forget his place.

    Replies: @black sea

  35. I started Kindergarten in 1987 in Illinois. We started school approximately a week and a half before Labor Day. You’d have a half-day on a Wednesday, go to school the rest of that week and the following week, and then there’d be Labor Day. The last day of class never slid past June 1, though I think it did sometimes come after Memorial Day.

    I think the cut-off date for birthdays was October 1. I think the youngest kid in the class, with a birthday in October, transferred from another school district.

  36. @Coemgen
    F in ROTC?

    Biden wants to be CIC?

    Will he, as did Obama, pronounce Navy Corpsman as if it were spelled Navy Corpseman?

    I wonder how DJT fared in ROTC?

    Aside: Does anyone else find themselves preoccupied with questions about the origins of SARS-COV2 (COVID-19, coronavirus, etc.)? It seems to be very convenient for the Democrats. Just the timeline, where “the media” was able to jump from one anti-Trump moral panic to another, is very disconcerting.

    Replies: @Jasper Been, @Polynikes, @e, @Sean

    An “F” in ROTC. Can’t join the Army because of “asthma,” but he can play football. Repeated the 3rd grade (lol). Lied all the way through and after his “academic” career.

    He apparently got all the way through his political career on some charisma and a social-IQ. He doesn’t seem to have much of that left, though.

    What a wild ride.

  37. Sherrod Brown, Ohio, would have been a better selection

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @houston 1992

    > Sherrod Brown, Ohio, would have been a better selection

    For them, not for us.

    If Bernie could have reined in the ego and convinced Brown to run, Trump would have been in real trouble. He wouldn't have been a lock, because he's not a dyed in the wool minoritarian and the powers that run the Democratic party--global finance--don't trust him. (Minoritarians are great for finance ... just a lot of nonsense that doesn't get in the way of their looting.)

    But if Brown got the nomination he would have made it very difficult for Trump to repeat his midwestern breakthrough.

    ~~

    For us, Harris is great. Physical embodiment of us getting the shaft, and the mediocrity of our future and the tedious finger wagging from Big Sister that will come with it.

  38. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Joe Biden Repeated Third Grade: It Seems to Have Worked Out Well for Him".

    The problem with you, Sailer, is that you are completely obsessed wih the concept of masculine dominance being the be-all-end-all of human Society and civilization, and so much of what you write about male celebrities has to do with their masculinity or lack thereof..

    The reality is that things are never that simple, and masculine dominance can manifest in myriad different ways, and in many cases chest-beating displays of dominance are flat-out counterpridctive to making you achieve positions of power/authority and come across as boorish, vulgar and as childish entitlement.

    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Whiskey, @AnotherDad, @Low energy noticer, @Kronos

    Masculine dominance is ALL our society is now, given that is is run on the social media whims of AWFLs and such.

    Black lives matter has dominated, and gotten White women globally to kneel and prostrate themselves, through masculine dominance. You don’t see very many White men at these protests, but they are choc-a-bloc with young White women.

    Proof positive btw that White women are the eternal, and natural enemy of White men. Islam is right about women.

    • Disagree: throtler
  39. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Joe Biden Repeated Third Grade: It Seems to Have Worked Out Well for Him".

    The problem with you, Sailer, is that you are completely obsessed wih the concept of masculine dominance being the be-all-end-all of human Society and civilization, and so much of what you write about male celebrities has to do with their masculinity or lack thereof..

    The reality is that things are never that simple, and masculine dominance can manifest in myriad different ways, and in many cases chest-beating displays of dominance are flat-out counterpridctive to making you achieve positions of power/authority and come across as boorish, vulgar and as childish entitlement.

    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Whiskey, @AnotherDad, @Low energy noticer, @Kronos

    Yet another autistic

    The problem with you, Sailer, …

    bozo, with laughably incompetent analysis.

    Seriously, i’m sure Steve has a random collection of “problems” as do all we mortal men. (Mrs. Sailer probably even has a mental list.) But here on the iSteve, Steve’s just Steve doing his Steve thing–noticing.

    If you can’t figure that out, maybe “the problem is with you”.

  40. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Joe Biden Repeated Third Grade: It Seems to Have Worked Out Well for Him".

    The problem with you, Sailer, is that you are completely obsessed wih the concept of masculine dominance being the be-all-end-all of human Society and civilization, and so much of what you write about male celebrities has to do with their masculinity or lack thereof..

    The reality is that things are never that simple, and masculine dominance can manifest in myriad different ways, and in many cases chest-beating displays of dominance are flat-out counterpridctive to making you achieve positions of power/authority and come across as boorish, vulgar and as childish entitlement.

    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Whiskey, @AnotherDad, @Low energy noticer, @Kronos

    Sailer is old enough to know where he fits on this pecking order. He’s a low-energy, low-T, tall, smart guy who, apart from his scary encounter with cancer, hasn’t really struggled and suffered in life the way a majority of people on this earth do (being tall and smart helps!). Now it’s obvious he wouldn’t make a great leader of men, and I doubt he’d want to be one anyway, but he’s uniquely equipped to do what he does now, and he has enough balls to notice and write non-PC stuff under his real name – that’s why his readership is so large.

    Masculine dominance manifested in every way (including chest-beating sometimes) is the main drive of human society and civilization; just read any history book if you don’t believe in that. Combined with enough smarts, it’s what catapults you to positions of power; absent smarts, you die early and violently.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Low energy noticer

    You miss the big picture of history...most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men "no, you CANNOT have everything."?

    Being very macho and dominant is a good way to make yourself a lot of enemies and die an early or violent death. Think Tupac Shakur or Pablo Escobar.

    My criticism of Sailer is how sophomoric and shallow his analysis is: to him, macho rules and non-macho not rules. Simple as that. He goes as far as making comments about a man's jaw line and then trying to asses derivative aspects of his personality basd on that. And then he makes tremendous jumps in logic about what that individual might do. He does that ALWAYS. Just look how weird it is that he always writes a paragraph or two about a male celebrity's jaw line to determine whether this is fit to be a leading man or not. What is a leading man anyway? The military is full of weak-jawed bureaucrats from West Point bossing around drill sargeants that would beat them to death in a one-on-one fight. Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does.

    Dominance can be subtle, and it is often is. For instance, liberals completely dominate conservatives at the highest level of politics, media and entertianment, and they did it with the pen, and not with their fists or guns. For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.

    Among the peoples of the Pacific, in the traditinal tribes, they showed that the most popular men were not necessarily the best warriors or macho, but the ones that had the best diplomatic skills and could form vast alliances. The men who rose to power were not necessarily aggressive domineering assholes, but nice guys that kissed other people's babies, did favors for others, threw their money around, etc. There is an old saying:

    "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar."

    Overt displays of machismo and dominance does not odten endeer you to people. Steve Sailer talks always about leading men in Hollywood, but the most LIKED Hollywood actors are genuine nice guys like Keanu Reeves and Leo DiCaprio. They are leading men and get paid millions of Dollars per film,but they are not super-macho(although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode). According to Sailer, Leo DiCaprio is not a leading man because his jawline is not impressive enough and he doen't look manly enough, And yet, Leo DiCaprio has made more money than super-macho Sly Stallone. There are many ways of being successful. Being super-masculine is more of a boomer fantasy about what a man is supposed to be.

    Replies: @Jon, @I’m not that guy, @Low T noticer, @bomag, @Pop Warner

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Low energy noticer

    So, the Big Black Bucks with their big swinging dicks really ARE the Master Race!

    No wonder White folks aren't rallying to your side.

  41. @anon
    Has it ever happened before that both Prez and VP went to mediocre colleges?
    Harris/Biden are 0 for 4. (Also: how often were both lawyers?)

    Replies: @Flip, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @bored

    Syracuse Law is decent, been around for 150 years.

    Some prominent NY and Washington pols as alum.

  42. Jim Kunstler summed up Biden most efficiently in his Friday blog post:

    Poor Joe will come off for what he really is in this eerie twilight of his long career: a thousand hair-plugs in search of a brain.

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/chaos-theory/

  43. My late June birthday came in really handy when I was young, because it was around the same time school let out for the summer (my H.S. graduation was on my 18th birthday). That made it more enjoyable.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @prosa123

    How do you feel about having your birth month hijacked by International Fag Month?

    How do you feel about the cancelation of this year's Fag Month celebrations?

  44. Re: Kamala Harris

    The fact that a child of the immigrants could rise to be a hair breadth
    away from Presidency shows how profoundly unjust American politics
    has become. Immigrants from Europe had to struggle for generations
    in factory jobs or on the farm before even thinking of a career in
    politics. We have just witnessed 100 million white American women
    being excluded from presidential politics, at least on the Democratic
    side

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Anon 2

    The rapid rise in politics by children of immigrants is having very
    predictable outcomes - rise of mediocrities like Obama and Kamala
    Harris, both of whom are affirmative action beneficiaries. Is this good
    for the country? I doubt it. But, as Audacious Epigone pointed out
    a few months ago, America’s average IQ has dropped by about 2 points,
    and is still in free fall. California’s IQ is probably down to about 95
    at this point, if only because of the presence of at least 3 million
    functional illiterates (esp. in SoCal). So maybe we’re getting what
    we deserve

    , @Abolish_public_education
    @Anon 2

    A commenter yesterday linked to Coulter’s past analyses about how Ted Cruz is actually a *naturalized* American and therefore ineligible to serve as POTUS.

    KH came into this world (country) as what’s now known as an “anchor baby”.

    I’ll spare you the legal technicalities of that classification, but it does mean that KH is not a “natural born” US.

    JB is going to have to find an office-legal, WOC to run alongside of him.

  45. @Buzz Mohawk
    Try dropping out of high school, getting some life experience on the road and in the woods, even working a job for part of that time and saving some money, and then starting college at age 21. Girls, girls, girls! A's, A's, A's. (I mean the grades, but also the anatomy :) )

    It wasn't really my plan, but that's how it went for me.

    As the saying goes, "Youth is wasted on the young." Someone older, but still young enough, can capitalize on his experience and development.

    (Oh, the other advantage was that I was old enough to go buy kegs of beer and bring them back in the enormous trunk of my '67 Chevy Biscayne.)

    Replies: @njguy73, @GLT, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous

    How about working at 18 while doing online distance learning?

  46. @Buzz Mohawk
    Here's a case that might interest Sailer or somebody:

    A kid is skipping his senior year of high school to go on and start his college football career.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904680-5-star-recruit-jack-sawyer-to-skip-senior-hs-season-enroll-early-at-ohio-state

    https://www.cleveland.com/resizer/Kv-jwxRghaLuqKyYeQNTz-yyTvM=/1280x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/INVYFP2ZJNGN7FEOHBY2PLNZLI.jpeg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @anon, @Ron Mexico

    Can get incomparably better training/coaching/everything at the University as opposed to high school. Quarterbacks (in particular) have been doing it for their spring semester of senior year for a while.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @anon


    Can get incomparably better training/coaching/everything at the University as opposed to high school.
     
    Particularly at Ohio State. They are easily a top 3 program, along with Alabama and Clemson.

    Those three teams are more like semi-pro teams than college amateurs.

    This kid is going to be just fine.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  47. Anonymous[625] • Disclaimer says:

    I can remember being in 1st grade and being intimidated by how much bigger, smarter, and cooler the 2nd graders seemed to be.

    Of course this seems ridiculous now, and I couldn’t tell the difference between 1st and 2nd graders in a mixed group today. They all just seem like a bunch of stupid kids. But when you’re a kid and in the middle of it all, these differences definitely loom large and are noticed.

    • Replies: @Russ
    @Anonymous


    I can remember being in 1st grade and being intimidated by how much bigger, smarter, and cooler the 2nd graders seemed to be.
     
    Well, they were a good 14% to 16% older than you, so your first-grade self was drawing rational conclusions. That one-year difference of course diminished percentagewise dramatically as we all aged.

    I recall hitting college early in my 18th year, and first encountering the 19-year-old co-ed in her natural habitat. Oh, my.
  48. We accelerated our kids as much as they were capable, but since we homeschooled, beyond family dynamics, the blogger’s dominance question was not an issue we ever thought or cared about.

    Leaders are born.

    One of my kids, now a young adult, is the leader of its generally older set of fellow technicians. But, due to its laid-back nature, I don’t ever see it leading a large group. Its younger sibling, however, though not as G&T, always seems to become the leader of whatever group it chooses to join.

    The most impressive, natural leader who I ever met (while he was a cadet) was a black guy who had above-average IQ combined with good looks and an athletic physique, and who exuded a level of self-confidence that was strong but not arrogant.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Abolish_public_education


    One of my kids, now a young adult, is the leader of its generally older set of fellow technicians. But, due to its laid-back nature, I don’t ever see it leading a large group. Its younger sibling, however, though not as G&T, always seems to become the leader of whatever group it chooses to join.
     
    Your children are hermaphrodites?
  49. “Joe Biden repeated third grade.”

    How many times?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Maybe it’s ongoing? 🤔

    https://youtu.be/c9oIPZrI0-4

  50. @The Alarmist
    Dominance has little to do with size and everything to do with attitude. Sleepy Joe has plenty of attitude. He's one of those people who walk through life thinking they are rock stars, and after more than a few buy into it, they become rock stars, even when, like Joe, they repeatedly demonstrate how unremarkable they really are.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “You can satisfy self by appropriating the feeling that you are what you want to be. And this assumption though false, that is, although reason and the senses deny it, if persisted in will harden into fact. By actually embodying that which you have assumed you are, you have the capacity to become completely satisfied.” — Neville Goddard.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2016/03/the-secret-of-trumps-a-peale/

  51. Anonymous[955] • Disclaimer says:
    @Low energy noticer
    @Anonymous

    Sailer is old enough to know where he fits on this pecking order. He's a low-energy, low-T, tall, smart guy who, apart from his scary encounter with cancer, hasn't really struggled and suffered in life the way a majority of people on this earth do (being tall and smart helps!). Now it's obvious he wouldn't make a great leader of men, and I doubt he'd want to be one anyway, but he's uniquely equipped to do what he does now, and he has enough balls to notice and write non-PC stuff under his real name – that's why his readership is so large.

    Masculine dominance manifested in every way (including chest-beating sometimes) is the main drive of human society and civilization; just read any history book if you don't believe in that. Combined with enough smarts, it's what catapults you to positions of power; absent smarts, you die early and violently.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Peter D. Bredon

    You miss the big picture of history…most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men “no, you CANNOT have everything.”?

    Being very macho and dominant is a good way to make yourself a lot of enemies and die an early or violent death. Think Tupac Shakur or Pablo Escobar.

    My criticism of Sailer is how sophomoric and shallow his analysis is: to him, macho rules and non-macho not rules. Simple as that. He goes as far as making comments about a man’s jaw line and then trying to asses derivative aspects of his personality basd on that. And then he makes tremendous jumps in logic about what that individual might do. He does that ALWAYS. Just look how weird it is that he always writes a paragraph or two about a male celebrity’s jaw line to determine whether this is fit to be a leading man or not. What is a leading man anyway? The military is full of weak-jawed bureaucrats from West Point bossing around drill sargeants that would beat them to death in a one-on-one fight. Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does.

    Dominance can be subtle, and it is often is. For instance, liberals completely dominate conservatives at the highest level of politics, media and entertianment, and they did it with the pen, and not with their fists or guns. For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.

    Among the peoples of the Pacific, in the traditinal tribes, they showed that the most popular men were not necessarily the best warriors or macho, but the ones that had the best diplomatic skills and could form vast alliances. The men who rose to power were not necessarily aggressive domineering assholes, but nice guys that kissed other people’s babies, did favors for others, threw their money around, etc. There is an old saying:

    “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.”

    Overt displays of machismo and dominance does not odten endeer you to people. Steve Sailer talks always about leading men in Hollywood, but the most LIKED Hollywood actors are genuine nice guys like Keanu Reeves and Leo DiCaprio. They are leading men and get paid millions of Dollars per film,but they are not super-macho(although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode). According to Sailer, Leo DiCaprio is not a leading man because his jawline is not impressive enough and he doen’t look manly enough, And yet, Leo DiCaprio has made more money than super-macho Sly Stallone. There are many ways of being successful. Being super-masculine is more of a boomer fantasy about what a man is supposed to be.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Jon
    @Anonymous


    (although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode)
     
    Pointbreak, Speed, Matrix ... Reeves has spent almost his entire career as a macho action hero.
    , @I’m not that guy
    @Anonymous

    I think these are more off the cuff remarks for entertainment purposes then hard core analysis by Sailer. He’s actually a pretty funny dude

    , @Low T noticer
    @Anonymous

    You haven't been going out a lot lately. "Jock" types nowadays get an even greater share of female attention than they used to before the big change in social mores in the 60s, and the cohort of involuntary celibate men is fast approaching numbers you'd find in polygamist societies. Why do you think there's so many resources online about "game"? It's the reaction of the non-jocks to the sexual marketplace's changing landscape. Even Sailer still has a link to Heartiste's dead website.

    Either way, being lantern-jawed doesn't necessarily mean you're hyper-masculine, anymore than being Jamaican means you're going to be a good sprinter, or being a Jew means you're Nobel-winning material; it's just an indication. Physiognomy is real and facial recognition is slowly getting there; stereotypes are real.

    Masculine dominance isn't always having yuge muscles or being physically violent, and examples like an idiot thug with a big mouth or an amoral criminal (who lasted long enough, and would've lasted much longer if he'd managed to get his family out of Colombia) don't mean anything. I could mention countless counterexamples of ultra-masculine men who weren't big and beefed up, yet they wrote history: Russian dictators, Mongol khans, the diminutive Turks, every rebel leader there was etc etc.

    , @bomag
    @Anonymous


    Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does
     
    Given the time and space constraints, Steve hits closer than almost anyone.

    For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.
     
    Seems completely wrong. The macho cultures of Africa and martial aspects of Islam are more in ascendance than the demure components of Europe/Asia.
    , @Pop Warner
    @Anonymous


    most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men “no, you CANNOT have everything.”?
     
    What an idiotic thing to say. You imply that revolution is somehow feminine, when revolt against the order embodies masculinity. To submit and accept subservience is a fundamentally feminine trait, and feminists in modern history are characterized by their masculinity. And "democracy" as you describe it is still carried out by men, women largely follow order and authority and are far less likely to fight against it beyond the aforementioned masculine women. It sounds like you have a complex about men more than you do any reasonable point
  52. e says:
    @Coemgen
    F in ROTC?

    Biden wants to be CIC?

    Will he, as did Obama, pronounce Navy Corpsman as if it were spelled Navy Corpseman?

    I wonder how DJT fared in ROTC?

    Aside: Does anyone else find themselves preoccupied with questions about the origins of SARS-COV2 (COVID-19, coronavirus, etc.)? It seems to be very convenient for the Democrats. Just the timeline, where “the media” was able to jump from one anti-Trump moral panic to another, is very disconcerting.

    Replies: @Jasper Been, @Polynikes, @e, @Sean

    Will he, as did Obama, pronounce Navy Corpsman as if it were spelled Navy Corpseman?

    I’ve never forgotten that. Obama did that twice in the space of a few months. That from a guy that is supposed to be widely read and from someone raised in state that boasts a major Naval history.

    I’ve also never forgotten his pathetic display of 25 consecutive, uncontested MISSED shots at a basket on a playground, almost all of them the distance of a free throw or less. He seemed much more interested in making sure his wrist was stylishly limp as the ball left his hand. I thought that to be very symbolic of who Obama is, a guy who tries to use form/style to substitute for substance.

  53. @Buzz Mohawk
    Try dropping out of high school, getting some life experience on the road and in the woods, even working a job for part of that time and saving some money, and then starting college at age 21. Girls, girls, girls! A's, A's, A's. (I mean the grades, but also the anatomy :) )

    It wasn't really my plan, but that's how it went for me.

    As the saying goes, "Youth is wasted on the young." Someone older, but still young enough, can capitalize on his experience and development.

    (Oh, the other advantage was that I was old enough to go buy kegs of beer and bring them back in the enormous trunk of my '67 Chevy Biscayne.)

    Replies: @njguy73, @GLT, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous

    I came to the same conclusion, while finishing early. Will strongly recommend this to my son. Well, maybe 2 gap years / age 20 start.

  54. @Anonymous
    An aside, Archmere is a very good private school in Public School-poor Delaware. Athletics may have gotten him in.

    Also, Biden’s grades in HS and College weren’t that bad considering the ridiculous Grade Inflation over the last 50-60 years. Teachers give out As like candy now.

    It is still astonishing that he passed the Bar Exam though with such poor academic skills though. That should be investigated.

    Replies: @Con Moto, @ES

    His son Beau failed the bar in Delaware three times. Might back up your theisis. Or maybe between father and son taking the bar it became more difficult as Delaware became America’s tax shelter. I’ve heard it’s among the more difficult states to pass.

  55. @Anon 2
    Re: Kamala Harris

    The fact that a child of the immigrants could rise to be a hair breadth
    away from Presidency shows how profoundly unjust American politics
    has become. Immigrants from Europe had to struggle for generations
    in factory jobs or on the farm before even thinking of a career in
    politics. We have just witnessed 100 million white American women
    being excluded from presidential politics, at least on the Democratic
    side

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Abolish_public_education

    The rapid rise in politics by children of immigrants is having very
    predictable outcomes – rise of mediocrities like Obama and Kamala
    Harris, both of whom are affirmative action beneficiaries. Is this good
    for the country? I doubt it. But, as Audacious Epigone pointed out
    a few months ago, America’s average IQ has dropped by about 2 points,
    and is still in free fall. California’s IQ is probably down to about 95
    at this point, if only because of the presence of at least 3 million
    functional illiterates (esp. in SoCal). So maybe we’re getting what
    we deserve

  56. Repeating a grade is a strong marker for below average intelligence (IQ less than 85) just as skipping a grade is a strong marker of above average intelligence (IQ greater than 125). Joe Biden’s IQ is apparently only slightly higher than 80, which explains why he just barely passed high school. 80 is a firm cutoff for who can obtain a high school diploma. And having low intelligence is also a fairly strong marker for developing non-Alzheimer’s dementia later in life like the kind Joe Biden has. Edmund Burke Huey, in his classic psychology text, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, defined a moron as an individual whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years. If Biden is elected president, he will officially be the first moron to hold that office.

    • Replies: @Bernard
    @JimB



    Joe Biden’s IQ is apparently only slightly higher than 80, which explains why he just barely passed high school.
     
    As much as I loathe defending Joe, this is just wrong. He passed the bar in a state with one of the more difficult exams. I doubt there’s ever been an 80 IQ who has done so. He’s far from bright, but he’s not an imbecile either.

    And having low intelligence is also a fairly strong marker for developing non-Alzheimer’s dementia later in life like the kind Joe Biden has.
     
    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous

    , @fish
    @JimB


    If Biden is elected president, he will officially be the first moron to hold that office.
     
    ....Officially.
  57. Anon[176] • Disclaimer says:

    Cs and Ds from a state college indicate you’re not really college material at all, much less presidential material. That’s an IQ of around 95.

    A natural politician has an unusually good memory. Natural politicians remember Bill from Keokuk who they were introduced to last year during that campaign swing, and they easily absorb and remember the important parts of bills and policies. Natural politicians can speak off the cuff without notes because they remember a lot of material, because they’ve had a lot of practice lobbying their fellow politicians, and because they’ve spent years giving speeches trying to persuade ordinary citizens to see their point of view.

    Cs and Ds mean Biden’s memory is bad. Most natural politicians can make Bs in college even if they’re too lazy to study, because they can remember the lectures better than other people can.

    • Replies: @res
    @Anon


    Cs and Ds from a state college indicate you’re not really college material at all, much less presidential material. That’s an IQ of around 95.
     
    You are applying today's grade inflated and over 60% of people attending some amount of college standards to a man who attended college over 55 years ago when Cs were common and more like 25% of people attended college.

    See Table 24 on page 77 for early 1960s enrollment stats for 18-24 year olds.
    https://nces.ed.gov/pubs93/93442.pdf

    Much on grade inflation at http://www.gradeinflation.com/
    But I think this graphic covers it well enough.

    http://www.gradeinflation.com/figure8.png

  58. Joe Biden Repeated Third Grade

    C’mon Man! Give the guy a break. He missed a year in grade school because he was working down in the coal pits.

  59. How has Biden survived his penchant for self-sabotage for so long?

  60. Re: That picture of Biden – can 4-chan please meme the “thumbs up” sign into a racist hate-gesture? Then virtually every gas-bag politician would instantly get in hot water.

  61. We redshirted our son based on your advice. A year later at a parent-teacher conference, when we asked the longtime teacher about the decision, she said “It’s the best thing you could’ve done.” Years later, it is bearing great fruit. Thanks for the great advice, Steve!

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @BernieBroBot

    Red shirting was great for your son, no doubt, but every kid who didn't get red shirted was screwed over, forced to compete with an older child. (If you red shirt your kid for a year, then why do it just for one? Why not do it for two, even three years?)

    The kid who stood out in my grade when I was in elementary school was almost an entire year older than several children in my class. We all admired his athletic prowess and intelligence, but now, looking back, I recognize that his dad, who was the principal of the town's high school, had decided to give his son an edge by having him compete against children less mature than him. (His birthday was the first week in September and children were eligible to enroll in 1st grade if they turned 6 before the 15th of October.)

    When you're older, the difference of a year isn't much, but when you're under 16 the difference of a year can be huge.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Anonymous

  62. The way his mind appears to be functioning, it looks like he is going to repeat being a Vice President too.

  63. @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Ohio State is all online next semester and the football season cancelled (Big Ten Conference cancelled).

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    When did the Nice Midwestern Boys of The Big Ten become such pu****s?

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @The Alarmist

    Add to the list of womanish hysterics unwilling to read, learn, and think for themselves: an NHL goalie who abandoned his team, on short notice, skipping the playoffs (breaching his contract) to “go home to my wife and children” without further risk of THE VIRUS:

    https://www.pressherald.com/2020/08/15/bruins-goalie-tuukka-rask-opts-out-of-nhl-playoffs/

    Young, healthy, fit, strong guy — who could kick my butt in a minute even if i were his age — and presumably of adequate or better intelligence and literacy. Yet he throws a hissy fit and runs off hysterically without having any idea what he is talking about. The other players and the coaches “support his decision”, also without having even TRIED to learn the apparent facts about the virus.

    Impressive, our brainwashed frightened young “men” today.

  64. You coulda been President.

  65. @JimB
    Repeating a grade is a strong marker for below average intelligence (IQ less than 85) just as skipping a grade is a strong marker of above average intelligence (IQ greater than 125). Joe Biden's IQ is apparently only slightly higher than 80, which explains why he just barely passed high school. 80 is a firm cutoff for who can obtain a high school diploma. And having low intelligence is also a fairly strong marker for developing non-Alzheimer’s dementia later in life like the kind Joe Biden has. Edmund Burke Huey, in his classic psychology text, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, defined a moron as an individual whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years. If Biden is elected president, he will officially be the first moron to hold that office.

    Replies: @Bernard, @fish

    Joe Biden’s IQ is apparently only slightly higher than 80, which explains why he just barely passed high school.

    As much as I loathe defending Joe, this is just wrong. He passed the bar in a state with one of the more difficult exams. I doubt there’s ever been an 80 IQ who has done so. He’s far from bright, but he’s not an imbecile either.

    And having low intelligence is also a fairly strong marker for developing non-Alzheimer’s dementia later in life like the kind Joe Biden has.

    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Bernard


    As much as I loathe defending Joe, this is just wrong. He passed the bar in a state with one of the more difficult exams. I doubt there’s ever been an 80 IQ who has done so.
     
    Unless someone else took the bar exam in his name. I’m trying to find out if test takers were finger printed in 1969. If so, has anyone confirmed that the fingerprint belongs to Joe? Probably worth looking into this. I’m not trying to start any conspiracy theories, but it’s worth rechecking this moron’s credentials.
    , @Anonymous
    @Bernard


    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.
     
    Is someone with higher intelligence more or less able to conceal it than someone with lower intelligence?

    Replies: @Bernard

  66. In short, Joe Biden’s a dumbbell.

    “A natural born leader” = Useful Idiot.

    When family and friends ask what I mean by

    The Pyrrhic Victory of The Hostile Elite

    one way to answer would be to point to an article like this.

    That the hostile elite is dependent on guys like this for their existence is why the social institutions they control won’t survive.

    They’re not surviving now.

    Just look around.

  67. @JimB
    Repeating a grade is a strong marker for below average intelligence (IQ less than 85) just as skipping a grade is a strong marker of above average intelligence (IQ greater than 125). Joe Biden's IQ is apparently only slightly higher than 80, which explains why he just barely passed high school. 80 is a firm cutoff for who can obtain a high school diploma. And having low intelligence is also a fairly strong marker for developing non-Alzheimer’s dementia later in life like the kind Joe Biden has. Edmund Burke Huey, in his classic psychology text, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, defined a moron as an individual whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years. If Biden is elected president, he will officially be the first moron to hold that office.

    Replies: @Bernard, @fish

    If Biden is elected president, he will officially be the first moron to hold that office.

    ….Officially.

  68. On the other hand, there was some controversy back in the summer of 1964 about whether I was too young to enter. My father told the nuns at St. Francis de Sales, “My son is ready for school and will be bored if he has to wait another year to enter first grade so we will go somewhere else.”

    Were you already tall for your age at that time? That must’ve helped in your dad’s selling pitch. “Hey, he’d still be taller than the other kids in that grade.”

  69. Biden’s own academic career was unimpressive

    Remember the scene at the end of Animal House wherein Belushi and the blonde dish he abducted from the parade are shown driving off together above the caption “Senator and Mrs. John Blutarsky”? Biden had to have been the inspiration for that.

  70. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Anonymous

    Sailer is about seven feet tall and has an IQ north of Alaska, so he doesn't need to prove anything. That's why he speaks softly: He's a big stick.

    "Masculine dominance," as you call it, is a significant factor in the world. It's probably not studied enough, especially now that it's Bad.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Kronos

    Big dogs don’t need to bark so much.

  71. @Anonymous
    I can remember being in 1st grade and being intimidated by how much bigger, smarter, and cooler the 2nd graders seemed to be.

    Of course this seems ridiculous now, and I couldn't tell the difference between 1st and 2nd graders in a mixed group today. They all just seem like a bunch of stupid kids. But when you're a kid and in the middle of it all, these differences definitely loom large and are noticed.

    Replies: @Russ

    I can remember being in 1st grade and being intimidated by how much bigger, smarter, and cooler the 2nd graders seemed to be.

    Well, they were a good 14% to 16% older than you, so your first-grade self was drawing rational conclusions. That one-year difference of course diminished percentagewise dramatically as we all aged.

    I recall hitting college early in my 18th year, and first encountering the 19-year-old co-ed in her natural habitat. Oh, my.

  72. @Kolya Krassotkin
    "Joe Biden repeated third grade."

    How many times?

    Replies: @Kronos

    Maybe it’s ongoing? 🤔

  73. @Wilkey
    @anon

    Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine both have law degrees. But then they didn’t win.

    I’m still trying to fathom what the hell Hillary Clinton thought she was getting by selecting Kaine as her running mate. Are our political leaders that dreadful that she really thought he was the beat she could do?

    Replies: @Thirdtwin, @J.Ross

    “I’m still trying to fathom what the hell Hillary Clinton thought she was getting by selecting Kaine as her running mate.”

    He looked a lot like her dad, is all I can figure…

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/20/us/politics/hillary-clinton-draws-scrappy-determination-from-a-tough-combative-father.html

  74. @anon
    Has it ever happened before that both Prez and VP went to mediocre colleges?
    Harris/Biden are 0 for 4. (Also: how often were both lawyers?)

    Replies: @Flip, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @bored

    Has everyone in this country fallen to slavishly fawning on marquee brand colleges that crank out the sorcerers behind the witchery we have now?

  75. In August 1962 I started primary school aged 4 years 10 months.

    5 was the standard age in Scotland for entry to the state primary school system, with discretion for early entry within a quarter year. One of the factors in allowing early entry was a sibling already in the school – my older brother was two years ahead of me. One of my younger brothers got early entry also.

  76. @Anonymous
    @Low energy noticer

    You miss the big picture of history...most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men "no, you CANNOT have everything."?

    Being very macho and dominant is a good way to make yourself a lot of enemies and die an early or violent death. Think Tupac Shakur or Pablo Escobar.

    My criticism of Sailer is how sophomoric and shallow his analysis is: to him, macho rules and non-macho not rules. Simple as that. He goes as far as making comments about a man's jaw line and then trying to asses derivative aspects of his personality basd on that. And then he makes tremendous jumps in logic about what that individual might do. He does that ALWAYS. Just look how weird it is that he always writes a paragraph or two about a male celebrity's jaw line to determine whether this is fit to be a leading man or not. What is a leading man anyway? The military is full of weak-jawed bureaucrats from West Point bossing around drill sargeants that would beat them to death in a one-on-one fight. Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does.

    Dominance can be subtle, and it is often is. For instance, liberals completely dominate conservatives at the highest level of politics, media and entertianment, and they did it with the pen, and not with their fists or guns. For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.

    Among the peoples of the Pacific, in the traditinal tribes, they showed that the most popular men were not necessarily the best warriors or macho, but the ones that had the best diplomatic skills and could form vast alliances. The men who rose to power were not necessarily aggressive domineering assholes, but nice guys that kissed other people's babies, did favors for others, threw their money around, etc. There is an old saying:

    "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar."

    Overt displays of machismo and dominance does not odten endeer you to people. Steve Sailer talks always about leading men in Hollywood, but the most LIKED Hollywood actors are genuine nice guys like Keanu Reeves and Leo DiCaprio. They are leading men and get paid millions of Dollars per film,but they are not super-macho(although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode). According to Sailer, Leo DiCaprio is not a leading man because his jawline is not impressive enough and he doen't look manly enough, And yet, Leo DiCaprio has made more money than super-macho Sly Stallone. There are many ways of being successful. Being super-masculine is more of a boomer fantasy about what a man is supposed to be.

    Replies: @Jon, @I’m not that guy, @Low T noticer, @bomag, @Pop Warner

    (although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode)

    Pointbreak, Speed, Matrix … Reeves has spent almost his entire career as a macho action hero.

  77. In contrast, my rather meek and mild in-person personality tends to disappoint my readers when they finally meet me.

    But you are such a cool guy. This is so rare in right-wingers. It’s not common, even with young people that have the same interests like you.

  78. @Anonymous
    An aside, Archmere is a very good private school in Public School-poor Delaware. Athletics may have gotten him in.

    Also, Biden’s grades in HS and College weren’t that bad considering the ridiculous Grade Inflation over the last 50-60 years. Teachers give out As like candy now.

    It is still astonishing that he passed the Bar Exam though with such poor academic skills though. That should be investigated.

    Replies: @Con Moto, @ES

    Delaware had good public schools in the pre-busing era. The purpose of Archmere Academy was to protect Catholic schoolchildren from Protestant influences. How did that work out in Joe’s case? What’s his view on abortion rights?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @ES

    Yeah, those dangerous Protestants.

    We gotta keep the kids with deviant sodomite priests and bitter frustrated nuns where they’re safe.

    Plus the unmarried “men” who don’t compete for women or real jobs and never have children, living permanently with other men — they are just SUPER role models for the boys.

  79. @Federalist
    With terrible grades in college, how did Biden get into any law school? Was it easier then or was his family connected? I assume you can't get into Syracuse Law School with those grades today.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Fed, My question exactly. Did he ace theLSAT? Doubt that and Syracuse was well regarded back then fallen off since.

  80. @prosa123
    My late June birthday came in really handy when I was young, because it was around the same time school let out for the summer (my H.S. graduation was on my 18th birthday). That made it more enjoyable.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    How do you feel about having your birth month hijacked by International Fag Month?

    How do you feel about the cancelation of this year’s Fag Month celebrations?

  81. @Anonymous
    Steve Sailer:

    "Joe Biden Repeated Third Grade: It Seems to Have Worked Out Well for Him".

    The problem with you, Sailer, is that you are completely obsessed wih the concept of masculine dominance being the be-all-end-all of human Society and civilization, and so much of what you write about male celebrities has to do with their masculinity or lack thereof..

    The reality is that things are never that simple, and masculine dominance can manifest in myriad different ways, and in many cases chest-beating displays of dominance are flat-out counterpridctive to making you achieve positions of power/authority and come across as boorish, vulgar and as childish entitlement.

    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Whiskey, @AnotherDad, @Low energy noticer, @Kronos

    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity

    Who let the gamma in here?

    Steve’s assumptions really are good rules of thumb. His marketing background definitely helps him understand on what sells and what doesn’t. Masculinity and dominance are highly attractive to both men and women. Tom Wolfe incorporated that observation in various ways in his books. Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.) Wolfe incorporated various traits he witnessed in Atlanta into that character.

    Currently, society is experiencing a revolt against the natural order of feminine beauty and masculine strength. The feminists are winning somewhat in arm twisting media outlets in promoting ugly fat women, but then sells drop (from the female demographic no less) and they revert back to the status quo. Thankfully, the same effect isn’t being used to promote weak men nearly as much. Both genders (there are only two) find that disgusting and the demand isn’t there.

    https://i.insider.com/519ce57d69bedd3c5c000007?width=1190

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos

    Read this.


    "The Wiz looked upon [Croker] as an aging, uneducated, and out-of-date country boy who had somehow, nonetheless, managed to create a large, and, until recently, wildly successful corporation. That the country boy, with half his brainpower, should be the lord of the corporation and that [the Wiz] should be his vassal was an anomaly, a perversity of fate. . . . Or part of him felt that way. The other part of him was in awe, in unconscious awe, of something the old boy had and he didn't: namely, the power to charm men and the manic drive to bend their wills into saying yes to projects they didn't want, didn't need, and never thought about before... And that thing was manhood. It was as simple as that."

     

    Buck Strickland is Charlie Croker.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1vQhCHelJE

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @anon
    @Kronos

    Both genders (there are only two)

    Gender...German has three: masculine, feminine and neuter. Der, die, und das.

    "Gender" is indeed a construct, a linguistic concept.

    There are two sexes. Biology is reality.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @Anonymous
    @Kronos

    That's funny. This "gamma" would slap you around and embarrass you in real life. Steve Sailer is a joke. And so you are. All this talk about "alpha males" and "beta males":, etc, reeks of male insecurity.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Kronos

    Well said, Kronos. But don’t even use their nonsense word “gender.”

    There are two SEXES, period, and an extremely tiny percentage of unfortunate people who have a genetic defect causing hermaphroditism.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @dvorak
    @Kronos


    Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.)
     
    You should finish it. It has a good ending that disappointed the NYT's Michiko Kakutani. She didn't get it because she's not a man.

    Replies: @Kronos

  82. @anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can get incomparably better training/coaching/everything at the University as opposed to high school. Quarterbacks (in particular) have been doing it for their spring semester of senior year for a while.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Can get incomparably better training/coaching/everything at the University as opposed to high school.

    Particularly at Ohio State. They are easily a top 3 program, along with Alabama and Clemson.

    Those three teams are more like semi-pro teams than college amateurs.

    This kid is going to be just fine.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Howard, my grand daughter attends THE Ohio State and I am a long time Buckeye fan. But unusual year this season with no football. The NCAA will extend, I guarantee it, eligibility for this year's class and seniors. That means this young man will be behind players that should have graduated and will still be starting. The great D-1 teams are three and four deep at skilled positions. This young man may not get to play for two seasons. Ohio HSs are playing football this fall, probably only conference games, which would typically be about six games. Can't think of the young man's name, but the Heisman Trophy winner, Joe Whatever, who led LSU to the D-1 National Championship transferred from Ohio State because they were 4 deep at QB.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Federalist

  83. @Buzz Mohawk
    Try dropping out of high school, getting some life experience on the road and in the woods, even working a job for part of that time and saving some money, and then starting college at age 21. Girls, girls, girls! A's, A's, A's. (I mean the grades, but also the anatomy :) )

    It wasn't really my plan, but that's how it went for me.

    As the saying goes, "Youth is wasted on the young." Someone older, but still young enough, can capitalize on his experience and development.

    (Oh, the other advantage was that I was old enough to go buy kegs of beer and bring them back in the enormous trunk of my '67 Chevy Biscayne.)

    Replies: @njguy73, @GLT, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous

    “Youth is wasted on the young.”

    Confirmed.

  84. In contrast, my rather meek and mild in-person personality tends to disappoint my readers when they finally meet me.

    iSteve, we really need to get you some HGH, a tanning bed, and on the 20-rep squat program as outlined in the seminal bodybuilding book BRAWN, or maybe Mike Mentzer’s HIT program.

  85. @Kronos
    @Anonymous


    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity
     
    Who let the gamma in here?

    Steve’s assumptions really are good rules of thumb. His marketing background definitely helps him understand on what sells and what doesn’t. Masculinity and dominance are highly attractive to both men and women. Tom Wolfe incorporated that observation in various ways in his books. Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.) Wolfe incorporated various traits he witnessed in Atlanta into that character.

    https://www.amazon.com/Man-Full-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0553381334

    Currently, society is experiencing a revolt against the natural order of feminine beauty and masculine strength. The feminists are winning somewhat in arm twisting media outlets in promoting ugly fat women, but then sells drop (from the female demographic no less) and they revert back to the status quo. Thankfully, the same effect isn’t being used to promote weak men nearly as much. Both genders (there are only two) find that disgusting and the demand isn’t there.

    https://i.insider.com/519ce57d69bedd3c5c000007?width=1190

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @anon, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter, @dvorak

    Read this.

    “The Wiz looked upon [Croker] as an aging, uneducated, and out-of-date country boy who had somehow, nonetheless, managed to create a large, and, until recently, wildly successful corporation. That the country boy, with half his brainpower, should be the lord of the corporation and that [the Wiz] should be his vassal was an anomaly, a perversity of fate. . . . Or part of him felt that way. The other part of him was in awe, in unconscious awe, of something the old boy had and he didn’t: namely, the power to charm men and the manic drive to bend their wills into saying yes to projects they didn’t want, didn’t need, and never thought about before… And that thing was manhood. It was as simple as that.”

    Buck Strickland is Charlie Croker.

    • Thanks: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I read that part. That was near the beginning when Wolfe was giving the run down on the characters.

    My favorite part that demonstrates Croker’s masculine bravery (so far) was when Charlie caught a big ol rattlesnake with his bare hands and threw it in a sack for his snake hatchery in front of clients. The Wiz backed as far away from the snake as possible.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  86. Anonymous[235] • Disclaimer says:

    I skipped 7th grade on the recommendation of my teachers, and, looking back, I don’t think it was the best way to go. Instead, maybe I could have taken some college credit courses while completing 7th grade with my classmates.
    It was not only that I started high school at age 12 and having to deal with 18-year-olds and all sorts of more adult things, it was also that I lost my friends from grade school with whom I otherwise would have dealt with the new world of high school together.
    But I was on my own.

  87. @Anon
    Cs and Ds from a state college indicate you're not really college material at all, much less presidential material. That's an IQ of around 95.

    A natural politician has an unusually good memory. Natural politicians remember Bill from Keokuk who they were introduced to last year during that campaign swing, and they easily absorb and remember the important parts of bills and policies. Natural politicians can speak off the cuff without notes because they remember a lot of material, because they've had a lot of practice lobbying their fellow politicians, and because they've spent years giving speeches trying to persuade ordinary citizens to see their point of view.

    Cs and Ds mean Biden's memory is bad. Most natural politicians can make Bs in college even if they're too lazy to study, because they can remember the lectures better than other people can.

    Replies: @res

    Cs and Ds from a state college indicate you’re not really college material at all, much less presidential material. That’s an IQ of around 95.

    You are applying today’s grade inflated and over 60% of people attending some amount of college standards to a man who attended college over 55 years ago when Cs were common and more like 25% of people attended college.

    See Table 24 on page 77 for early 1960s enrollment stats for 18-24 year olds.
    https://nces.ed.gov/pubs93/93442.pdf

    Much on grade inflation at http://www.gradeinflation.com/
    But I think this graphic covers it well enough.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth, JohnnyWalker123
  88. If you want to be a leader of men, do the following.

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don’t need to be built like a tank. People won’t take you seriously if you’re fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.

    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don’t have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don’t have to be Barry White, but people it’s bit weird when someone’s voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.

    7. Don’t act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it’s nothing. Don’t get angry or moody (see above point).

    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don’t have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they’ll give you TREMENDOUS respect.

    11. Don’t apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.

    12. If you’re losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.

    I guarantee if you do all of the above, other men will respect you and follow you. You’ll do especially well in sales.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, nice list and with regard to number one on your list I give you Winston Churchill.

    Replies: @Escher, @Rob McX

    , @Paul Mendez
    @JohnnyWalker123


    People won’t take you seriously if you’re fat or weak looking.
     
    In my mid-forties I was a consultant. I was trim and physically active. My clients eagerly followed my advice.

    Then I was in a car accident that prevented me from exercising, and I really packed on the pounds.

    I was totally unprepared for how turning into a fat guy with a cane and ill-fitting suits reduced my perceived IQ by at least 20 points in the eyes of prospective clients. My practice never recovered.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Sean
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Being a leader is like being a KO punch boxer, they are born not made.
    Re your list some comments.
    1. Don't mastrubate. Or drink. Don't let yourself go, but working out oft times escalates until it causes nasty injuries. That makes you look stupid.
    2. Not necessary to be a great conversationalist in private interaction, but mastery of public speaking and the ability to elicit emotion in others is essential. Again, born not made.
    3. Trump never uses long words. He laconically alludes to things rather than being specific.
    4. Nothing to add.
    5. True but a bit overused nowadays.
    6. Trump had a perfectly synchronised double karate chop and now favours the 'playing the accordion' gesture. Not macho, but he is naturally butch.
    7. Can be overdone and leave you looking cold and unfeeling.
    8. Never seem to take yourself too seriously.
    9. Be willing to take very real risks, but develop expertise in the area you are taking them in beforehand.
    10. Being popular with women is why men want to be leaders in the first place.
    11. Don't do anything you are not willing to stand by and account for.
    12. Bald men are perceived as as unassertive. Probably because they are. Baldness was associated with being gay in a genetic study


    If you want loyalty you must give it to something beyond yourself, irrespective of the consequences, and in the knowledge the odds are against you.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @prosa123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    If you want to be a leader of men, do the following. [My comments in bold]

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don’t need to be built like a tank. People won’t take you seriously if you’re fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.
    Mostly true, though an average build usually is okay. Being fat is definitely a HUGE negative.


    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don’t have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.
    Agreed 100%.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.
    Using complex words is helpful but not vital. If you use them, make sure you get the meaning right, e.g. don't say "parameters" when you mean "perimeters."

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.
    Proper fitting and clean clothes are important, but that's about all.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don’t have to be Barry White, but people it’s bit weird when someone’s voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.
    Agreed.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.
    Disagree. Hand gestures are pointless at best.

    7. Don’t act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.
    Agreed.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it’s nothing. Don’t get angry or moody (see above point).
    Telling (appropriate for the audience) jokes is fine, IF you can do so without coming off as a doofus. That's not easy.


    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don’t have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.
    And try to avoid showing excessive interest in nerdy things like sci-fi or D&D.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they’ll give you TREMENDOUS respect.
    Usually it's the other way around: men try to be popular with other men because it makes it much easier to nail women.

    11. Don’t apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.
    Agreed.

    12. If you’re losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.
    Completely wrong. Hair transplants look ridiculous. Being bald can be very cool.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123

  89. @Anon 2
    Re: Kamala Harris

    The fact that a child of the immigrants could rise to be a hair breadth
    away from Presidency shows how profoundly unjust American politics
    has become. Immigrants from Europe had to struggle for generations
    in factory jobs or on the farm before even thinking of a career in
    politics. We have just witnessed 100 million white American women
    being excluded from presidential politics, at least on the Democratic
    side

    Replies: @Anon 2, @Abolish_public_education

    A commenter yesterday linked to Coulter’s past analyses about how Ted Cruz is actually a *naturalized* American and therefore ineligible to serve as POTUS.

    KH came into this world (country) as what’s now known as an “anchor baby”.

    I’ll spare you the legal technicalities of that classification, but it does mean that KH is not a “natural born” US.

    JB is going to have to find an office-legal, WOC to run alongside of him.

  90. @George
    Did the Bidens redshirt their own kids?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    In another sense.

  91. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @anon


    Can get incomparably better training/coaching/everything at the University as opposed to high school.
     
    Particularly at Ohio State. They are easily a top 3 program, along with Alabama and Clemson.

    Those three teams are more like semi-pro teams than college amateurs.

    This kid is going to be just fine.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Howard, my grand daughter attends THE Ohio State and I am a long time Buckeye fan. But unusual year this season with no football. The NCAA will extend, I guarantee it, eligibility for this year’s class and seniors. That means this young man will be behind players that should have graduated and will still be starting. The great D-1 teams are three and four deep at skilled positions. This young man may not get to play for two seasons. Ohio HSs are playing football this fall, probably only conference games, which would typically be about six games. Can’t think of the young man’s name, but the Heisman Trophy winner, Joe Whatever, who led LSU to the D-1 National Championship transferred from Ohio State because they were 4 deep at QB.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Buffalo Joe


    the Heisman Trophy winner, Joe Whatever, who led LSU to the D-1 National Championship transferred from Ohio State because they were 4 deep at QB.
     
    Not only that, his father played for and coached at Nebraska, and his brothers played for Nebraska. Yet they wouldn't give him a second look.
    , @Federalist
    @Buffalo Joe


    But unusual year this season with no football.
     
    As of now, the SEC, ACC, and Big 12 are going to play. If it really happens, that could set the Big 10 and Pac 12 back. (The Pac 12 has already been in decline for a while).

    The NCAA will extend, I guarantee it, eligibility for this year’s class and seniors. That means this young man will be behind players that should have graduated and will still be starting.
     
    Despite eligibility being extended, very few draft eligible juniors and seniors would play.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  92. @Wilkey
    @anon

    Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine both have law degrees. But then they didn’t win.

    I’m still trying to fathom what the hell Hillary Clinton thought she was getting by selecting Kaine as her running mate. Are our political leaders that dreadful that she really thought he was the beat she could do?

    Replies: @Thirdtwin, @J.Ross

    Rumor but almost certainly true: a person who claims to have worked With Her says Hillary needs everyone in the room to know that she has the biggest thing women don’t normally have, and let there be no confusion. Tim Kaine’s semi-liquid face and craven positions suggest that he actually would be an excellent fit, because he would never get in the way or forget his place.

    • Replies: @black sea
    @J.Ross


    Hillary needs everyone in the room to know that she has the biggest thing women don’t normally have, and let there be no confusion.
     
    A brain?
  93. @JohnnyWalker123
    If you want to be a leader of men, do the following.

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don't need to be built like a tank. People won't take you seriously if you're fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.

    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don't have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don't have to be Barry White, but people it's bit weird when someone's voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.

    7. Don't act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it's nothing. Don't get angry or moody (see above point).

    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don't have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they'll give you TREMENDOUS respect.

    11. Don't apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.

    12. If you're losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.

    I guarantee if you do all of the above, other men will respect you and follow you. You'll do especially well in sales.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Paul Mendez, @Sean, @prosa123

    Johnny, nice list and with regard to number one on your list I give you Winston Churchill.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Escher
    @Buffalo Joe

    For #12, I give you Churchill (again), Putin, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Rob McX
    @Buffalo Joe

    But see number two:


    Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously...
     
    Churchill made up for many physical drawbacks with his style of speaking (I refer only to the impression he gave, as distinct from his intrinsic merits as a statesman, and I think this outward impression is what Johnny is dealing with in his comment). Seven or eight out of these twelve traits would probably get you by. An impression of unshakable confidence can compensate for a lot of deficiencies.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  94. @BernieBroBot
    We redshirted our son based on your advice. A year later at a parent-teacher conference, when we asked the longtime teacher about the decision, she said “It’s the best thing you could’ve done.” Years later, it is bearing great fruit. Thanks for the great advice, Steve!

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    Red shirting was great for your son, no doubt, but every kid who didn’t get red shirted was screwed over, forced to compete with an older child. (If you red shirt your kid for a year, then why do it just for one? Why not do it for two, even three years?)

    The kid who stood out in my grade when I was in elementary school was almost an entire year older than several children in my class. We all admired his athletic prowess and intelligence, but now, looking back, I recognize that his dad, who was the principal of the town’s high school, had decided to give his son an edge by having him compete against children less mature than him. (His birthday was the first week in September and children were eligible to enroll in 1st grade if they turned 6 before the 15th of October.)

    When you’re older, the difference of a year isn’t much, but when you’re under 16 the difference of a year can be huge.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    I had the biggest schlong of anyone in the third grade.

    Of course, I was 12.

    , @Anonymous
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Being the biggest kid in the class makes you lazy and complacent.

  95. @Anonymous
    @Low energy noticer

    You miss the big picture of history...most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men "no, you CANNOT have everything."?

    Being very macho and dominant is a good way to make yourself a lot of enemies and die an early or violent death. Think Tupac Shakur or Pablo Escobar.

    My criticism of Sailer is how sophomoric and shallow his analysis is: to him, macho rules and non-macho not rules. Simple as that. He goes as far as making comments about a man's jaw line and then trying to asses derivative aspects of his personality basd on that. And then he makes tremendous jumps in logic about what that individual might do. He does that ALWAYS. Just look how weird it is that he always writes a paragraph or two about a male celebrity's jaw line to determine whether this is fit to be a leading man or not. What is a leading man anyway? The military is full of weak-jawed bureaucrats from West Point bossing around drill sargeants that would beat them to death in a one-on-one fight. Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does.

    Dominance can be subtle, and it is often is. For instance, liberals completely dominate conservatives at the highest level of politics, media and entertianment, and they did it with the pen, and not with their fists or guns. For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.

    Among the peoples of the Pacific, in the traditinal tribes, they showed that the most popular men were not necessarily the best warriors or macho, but the ones that had the best diplomatic skills and could form vast alliances. The men who rose to power were not necessarily aggressive domineering assholes, but nice guys that kissed other people's babies, did favors for others, threw their money around, etc. There is an old saying:

    "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar."

    Overt displays of machismo and dominance does not odten endeer you to people. Steve Sailer talks always about leading men in Hollywood, but the most LIKED Hollywood actors are genuine nice guys like Keanu Reeves and Leo DiCaprio. They are leading men and get paid millions of Dollars per film,but they are not super-macho(although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode). According to Sailer, Leo DiCaprio is not a leading man because his jawline is not impressive enough and he doen't look manly enough, And yet, Leo DiCaprio has made more money than super-macho Sly Stallone. There are many ways of being successful. Being super-masculine is more of a boomer fantasy about what a man is supposed to be.

    Replies: @Jon, @I’m not that guy, @Low T noticer, @bomag, @Pop Warner

    I think these are more off the cuff remarks for entertainment purposes then hard core analysis by Sailer. He’s actually a pretty funny dude

  96. @JohnnyWalker123
    If you want to be a leader of men, do the following.

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don't need to be built like a tank. People won't take you seriously if you're fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.

    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don't have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don't have to be Barry White, but people it's bit weird when someone's voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.

    7. Don't act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it's nothing. Don't get angry or moody (see above point).

    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don't have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they'll give you TREMENDOUS respect.

    11. Don't apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.

    12. If you're losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.

    I guarantee if you do all of the above, other men will respect you and follow you. You'll do especially well in sales.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Paul Mendez, @Sean, @prosa123

    People won’t take you seriously if you’re fat or weak looking.

    In my mid-forties I was a consultant. I was trim and physically active. My clients eagerly followed my advice.

    Then I was in a car accident that prevented me from exercising, and I really packed on the pounds.

    I was totally unprepared for how turning into a fat guy with a cane and ill-fitting suits reduced my perceived IQ by at least 20 points in the eyes of prospective clients. My practice never recovered.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Paul Mendez

    Sorry to hear that. Maybe you could lose weight through doing low-carb dieting?

    I'm reminded a bit of Mike Huckabee.

    During his 2008 run, he was skinny and seen as a dynamo candidate.
    By his 2016 run, he was fat and, more or less, dismissed.

    Huckabee in 2008.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCje-PuobuY

    Huckabee in 2016.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgWp39Xmqh4

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  97. @Abolish_public_education
    We accelerated our kids as much as they were capable, but since we homeschooled, beyond family dynamics, the blogger’s dominance question was not an issue we ever thought or cared about.

    Leaders are born.

    One of my kids, now a young adult, is the leader of its generally older set of fellow technicians. But, due to its laid-back nature, I don’t ever see it leading a large group. Its younger sibling, however, though not as G&T, always seems to become the leader of whatever group it chooses to join.

    The most impressive, natural leader who I ever met (while he was a cadet) was a black guy who had above-average IQ combined with good looks and an athletic physique, and who exuded a level of self-confidence that was strong but not arrogant.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    One of my kids, now a young adult, is the leader of its generally older set of fellow technicians. But, due to its laid-back nature, I don’t ever see it leading a large group. Its younger sibling, however, though not as G&T, always seems to become the leader of whatever group it chooses to join.

    Your children are hermaphrodites?

    • LOL: ScarletNumber
  98. @houston 1992
    Sherrod Brown, Ohio, would have been a better selection

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    > Sherrod Brown, Ohio, would have been a better selection

    For them, not for us.

    If Bernie could have reined in the ego and convinced Brown to run, Trump would have been in real trouble. He wouldn’t have been a lock, because he’s not a dyed in the wool minoritarian and the powers that run the Democratic party–global finance–don’t trust him. (Minoritarians are great for finance … just a lot of nonsense that doesn’t get in the way of their looting.)

    But if Brown got the nomination he would have made it very difficult for Trump to repeat his midwestern breakthrough.

    ~~

    For us, Harris is great. Physical embodiment of us getting the shaft, and the mediocrity of our future and the tedious finger wagging from Big Sister that will come with it.

  99. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos

    Read this.


    "The Wiz looked upon [Croker] as an aging, uneducated, and out-of-date country boy who had somehow, nonetheless, managed to create a large, and, until recently, wildly successful corporation. That the country boy, with half his brainpower, should be the lord of the corporation and that [the Wiz] should be his vassal was an anomaly, a perversity of fate. . . . Or part of him felt that way. The other part of him was in awe, in unconscious awe, of something the old boy had and he didn't: namely, the power to charm men and the manic drive to bend their wills into saying yes to projects they didn't want, didn't need, and never thought about before... And that thing was manhood. It was as simple as that."

     

    Buck Strickland is Charlie Croker.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1vQhCHelJE

    Replies: @Kronos

    I read that part. That was near the beginning when Wolfe was giving the run down on the characters.

    My favorite part that demonstrates Croker’s masculine bravery (so far) was when Charlie caught a big ol rattlesnake with his bare hands and threw it in a sack for his snake hatchery in front of clients. The Wiz backed as far away from the snake as possible.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos


    My favorite part that demonstrates Croker’s masculine bravery (so far) was when Charlie caught a big ol rattlesnake with his bare hands and threw it in a sack for his snake hatchery in front of clients. The Wiz backed as far away from the snake as possible.

     

    "The Wiz" is probably Jewish, but I don't remember if Wolfe specifically mentioned that.

    The book offers a pretty accurate glimpse into the culture of Southern elites. Though that might be changing now with the large influx of Northerners and migrants.

    Have you ever read "I am Charlotte Simmons?"

    Replies: @Kronos

  100. At age 77, Joe is the Democratic Party’s nominee for President of the United States…

    Ronald Reagan was 28,473 days old when he left office in 1989. Not only was he the oldest president when he came in, he was the oldest going out.

    Joe Biden will be 28,473 days old this Election Day. Should he be elected and survive until inauguration, he will set the record when he takes his hand off the Bible. (BTW, who will be “the bitch with the Bible”, in Mrs Brown’s words?)

    “28,473” would make an intriguing bumper sticker.

    Election Day is also Michael Dukakis’s 87th birthday. He’s probably in better shape than Joe, as are Ron Paul and Ralph Nader, Patrick Buchanan, Ed Clark, Andre Marrou and Bo “Bill of” Gritz, also born in the 1930s, a rare decade with no native presidents. And, of course, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, and Bob Dole, all born in the 1920s, are still going strong.

  101. @Kronos
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I read that part. That was near the beginning when Wolfe was giving the run down on the characters.

    My favorite part that demonstrates Croker’s masculine bravery (so far) was when Charlie caught a big ol rattlesnake with his bare hands and threw it in a sack for his snake hatchery in front of clients. The Wiz backed as far away from the snake as possible.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    My favorite part that demonstrates Croker’s masculine bravery (so far) was when Charlie caught a big ol rattlesnake with his bare hands and threw it in a sack for his snake hatchery in front of clients. The Wiz backed as far away from the snake as possible.

    “The Wiz” is probably Jewish, but I don’t remember if Wolfe specifically mentioned that.

    The book offers a pretty accurate glimpse into the culture of Southern elites. Though that might be changing now with the large influx of Northerners and migrants.

    Have you ever read “I am Charlotte Simmons?”

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Oh yes (in full.) Wolfe really saw the coming of SJWs. You remember the Asian chick who stood up to the frat jock and tricked him into saying a racial slur in public? She jumped up and down with happiness for gaining something that could get him expelled.

    I attended college a few years after the book was written and things had only progressed the way malignant cancer often does. (I read the book after graduating and thus my own experience is based on past reflection.)

    My favorite “scene” is the middle aged alumni taking his family to see his elite alma mater Dupont University having descended into debauchery. I thought this was actually Wolfe imposing his own attitudes and contrasting it to his own young college days. The family man referred to the frat boys wearing ties and women acting proper back in the day. But now, (early 2000s) they’re drinking in public and the women are quite slutty. The family man couldn’t have attended an elite university before the 1960s.

    Somewhere he talked about one particular frat house. It was very nice and elegant but the current frat boys were wrecking it over the years. They simply wouldn’t make a frat house that nice anymore. The serious study and dedication was long gone.

    Charlotte Simmons more resembled a nuclear bomb surviver like from the film “Blast from the Past.”

    https://youtu.be/AhMQOb0tEmI

    Her family background was dirt poor from isolated Appalachia but somehow that kept her away from the ugliness and self-indulgence of post-1960s America. It was a standard 1950s girl waking up to 21st century decadency. I mean she knew what rap was, but Wolfe really wanted to bring out that period contrast. (Even her supportive teacher from her hometown seemed time-locked in the past. She referred to things like values, respect, and importance of an education for its own sake. (I can’t find a video clip, but there’s a scene from “The Waltons” with the school teacher encouraging John-Boy to go to College.)

    You have a high-ability female equivalent of “John-Boy” going to a elite university that is essentially encased the “American Pie” ethos.

    https://youtu.be/qtKtxLmxl24

    It’s a very ugly and vulgar contrast. That poor girl is eventually baptized into the filth of modern “elite” society. Kronos couldn’t help but feel bad for that poor classy bitch.

    But at least Jo Jo learned to read good and articulate stuff in a goodly way.

    https://youtu.be/hRPfY4mE4ME

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @JohnnyWalker123

  102. @Paul Mendez
    @JohnnyWalker123


    People won’t take you seriously if you’re fat or weak looking.
     
    In my mid-forties I was a consultant. I was trim and physically active. My clients eagerly followed my advice.

    Then I was in a car accident that prevented me from exercising, and I really packed on the pounds.

    I was totally unprepared for how turning into a fat guy with a cane and ill-fitting suits reduced my perceived IQ by at least 20 points in the eyes of prospective clients. My practice never recovered.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Sorry to hear that. Maybe you could lose weight through doing low-carb dieting?

    I’m reminded a bit of Mike Huckabee.

    During his 2008 run, he was skinny and seen as a dynamo candidate.
    By his 2016 run, he was fat and, more or less, dismissed.

    Huckabee in 2008.

    Huckabee in 2016.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Sadly, his daughter looks like him. I once pointed out to Bill James' daughter on Twitter that she looks like him, and she blocked me.

  103. @Kronos
    @Anonymous


    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity
     
    Who let the gamma in here?

    Steve’s assumptions really are good rules of thumb. His marketing background definitely helps him understand on what sells and what doesn’t. Masculinity and dominance are highly attractive to both men and women. Tom Wolfe incorporated that observation in various ways in his books. Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.) Wolfe incorporated various traits he witnessed in Atlanta into that character.

    https://www.amazon.com/Man-Full-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0553381334

    Currently, society is experiencing a revolt against the natural order of feminine beauty and masculine strength. The feminists are winning somewhat in arm twisting media outlets in promoting ugly fat women, but then sells drop (from the female demographic no less) and they revert back to the status quo. Thankfully, the same effect isn’t being used to promote weak men nearly as much. Both genders (there are only two) find that disgusting and the demand isn’t there.

    https://i.insider.com/519ce57d69bedd3c5c000007?width=1190

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @anon, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter, @dvorak

    Both genders (there are only two)

    Gender…German has three: masculine, feminine and neuter. Der, die, und das.

    “Gender” is indeed a construct, a linguistic concept.

    There are two sexes. Biology is reality.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @anon

    Ok, sexes.

    You know what I meant.

  104. @Low energy noticer
    @Anonymous

    Sailer is old enough to know where he fits on this pecking order. He's a low-energy, low-T, tall, smart guy who, apart from his scary encounter with cancer, hasn't really struggled and suffered in life the way a majority of people on this earth do (being tall and smart helps!). Now it's obvious he wouldn't make a great leader of men, and I doubt he'd want to be one anyway, but he's uniquely equipped to do what he does now, and he has enough balls to notice and write non-PC stuff under his real name – that's why his readership is so large.

    Masculine dominance manifested in every way (including chest-beating sometimes) is the main drive of human society and civilization; just read any history book if you don't believe in that. Combined with enough smarts, it's what catapults you to positions of power; absent smarts, you die early and violently.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Peter D. Bredon

    So, the Big Black Bucks with their big swinging dicks really ARE the Master Race!

    No wonder White folks aren’t rallying to your side.

  105. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos


    My favorite part that demonstrates Croker’s masculine bravery (so far) was when Charlie caught a big ol rattlesnake with his bare hands and threw it in a sack for his snake hatchery in front of clients. The Wiz backed as far away from the snake as possible.

     

    "The Wiz" is probably Jewish, but I don't remember if Wolfe specifically mentioned that.

    The book offers a pretty accurate glimpse into the culture of Southern elites. Though that might be changing now with the large influx of Northerners and migrants.

    Have you ever read "I am Charlotte Simmons?"

    Replies: @Kronos

    Oh yes (in full.) Wolfe really saw the coming of SJWs. You remember the Asian chick who stood up to the frat jock and tricked him into saying a racial slur in public? She jumped up and down with happiness for gaining something that could get him expelled.

    I attended college a few years after the book was written and things had only progressed the way malignant cancer often does. (I read the book after graduating and thus my own experience is based on past reflection.)

    My favorite “scene” is the middle aged alumni taking his family to see his elite alma mater Dupont University having descended into debauchery. I thought this was actually Wolfe imposing his own attitudes and contrasting it to his own young college days. The family man referred to the frat boys wearing ties and women acting proper back in the day. But now, (early 2000s) they’re drinking in public and the women are quite slutty. The family man couldn’t have attended an elite university before the 1960s.

    Somewhere he talked about one particular frat house. It was very nice and elegant but the current frat boys were wrecking it over the years. They simply wouldn’t make a frat house that nice anymore. The serious study and dedication was long gone.

    Charlotte Simmons more resembled a nuclear bomb surviver like from the film “Blast from the Past.”

    Her family background was dirt poor from isolated Appalachia but somehow that kept her away from the ugliness and self-indulgence of post-1960s America. It was a standard 1950s girl waking up to 21st century decadency. I mean she knew what rap was, but Wolfe really wanted to bring out that period contrast. (Even her supportive teacher from her hometown seemed time-locked in the past. She referred to things like values, respect, and importance of an education for its own sake. (I can’t find a video clip, but there’s a scene from “The Waltons” with the school teacher encouraging John-Boy to go to College.)

    You have a high-ability female equivalent of “John-Boy” going to a elite university that is essentially encased the “American Pie” ethos.

    It’s a very ugly and vulgar contrast. That poor girl is eventually baptized into the filth of modern “elite” society. Kronos couldn’t help but feel bad for that poor classy bitch.

    But at least Jo Jo learned to read good and articulate stuff in a goodly way.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos

    Good comment.

    I thought one unrealistic aspect of his book was his depiction of Charlotte. There's no way that anyone that naive could've existed in America at any point in the last 40 years. For better and for worse, the sexual revolution and pop culture had permeated every part of America by the 80s.

    How would anyone so socially isolated like that exist? Did Charlotte not own a tv or a radio? Did she not ever go to the movies? Had she never been outside her hamlet?

    Perhaps (as you said) Wolfe was trying to contrast his youth with the current era. Maybe Charlotte was supposed to be him, caught in a time warp that transported from her from the idyllic, conservative South of Wolfe's youth.

    If you like the book, then I highly recommend watching this movie from 1999. Cruel Intentions. The plot involves a character similar to Hoyt Thorpe attempting to seduce a naive girl who's reminiscent of Charlotte. The movie did reasonably well at the box office.

    Here's the trailer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0pjJlkhn80

    You can watch it here for free.

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62nfhu

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos

    In the past 5-7 years, lots of universities have really cracked down on the party scene. There are far more police patrols around campuses, with students being arrested for public intoxication. When big house parties happen, cops are quick to issue EXPENSIVE citations.

    For example, read this.

    https://www.actionnewsnow.com/content/news/Booze-Free-Labor-Day-Floating-492352771.html

    Read this too.

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cal-poly-san-luis-obispo/1983227-is-cal-poly-slo-a-party-school.html

    Across the country, you see stuff like this happening.

    The debauchery is only a fraction of what it use to be in the past.

    I believe Wolfe wrote the book based on his conversations with various students. Most likely, those students were friends of his daughter, who attended Duke from 1998-2002. Things were way different back then.

    Also, lots of former "party schools" are much more rigorous these days, with entering freshmen often having absurdly high SATs and GPAs. Good lucking getting into Duke, USC, UGA, or UC Santa Barbara with anything less than a 1400 (especially if you're non-Jewish White). Lots of the White "party crowd" has been shut out by the rising standards at these FORMER (no longer) "party schools."

    Of course, there are places like Chico, LSU, and Ole Miss. However, even those places are cracking down on the revelry (see first link that I posted at the beginning of my post).

    With all the hysteria about campus rape, a guy like Hoyt Thorpe could get in serious trouble these days. So men are more careful now.

    Replies: @Kronos

  106. Is this really “stunningly racist”? Looks pretty mild to me.

  107. @anon
    @Kronos

    Both genders (there are only two)

    Gender...German has three: masculine, feminine and neuter. Der, die, und das.

    "Gender" is indeed a construct, a linguistic concept.

    There are two sexes. Biology is reality.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Ok, sexes.

    You know what I meant.

  108. @Buffalo Joe
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, nice list and with regard to number one on your list I give you Winston Churchill.

    Replies: @Escher, @Rob McX

    For #12, I give you Churchill (again), Putin, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Escher

    and I give you Homer Simpson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh17tdxRkeU

    Replies: @Escher, @anon

  109. @Buffalo Joe
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Howard, my grand daughter attends THE Ohio State and I am a long time Buckeye fan. But unusual year this season with no football. The NCAA will extend, I guarantee it, eligibility for this year's class and seniors. That means this young man will be behind players that should have graduated and will still be starting. The great D-1 teams are three and four deep at skilled positions. This young man may not get to play for two seasons. Ohio HSs are playing football this fall, probably only conference games, which would typically be about six games. Can't think of the young man's name, but the Heisman Trophy winner, Joe Whatever, who led LSU to the D-1 National Championship transferred from Ohio State because they were 4 deep at QB.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Federalist

    the Heisman Trophy winner, Joe Whatever, who led LSU to the D-1 National Championship transferred from Ohio State because they were 4 deep at QB.

    Not only that, his father played for and coached at Nebraska, and his brothers played for Nebraska. Yet they wouldn’t give him a second look.

  110. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Paul Mendez

    Sorry to hear that. Maybe you could lose weight through doing low-carb dieting?

    I'm reminded a bit of Mike Huckabee.

    During his 2008 run, he was skinny and seen as a dynamo candidate.
    By his 2016 run, he was fat and, more or less, dismissed.

    Huckabee in 2008.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCje-PuobuY

    Huckabee in 2016.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgWp39Xmqh4

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Sadly, his daughter looks like him. I once pointed out to Bill James’ daughter on Twitter that she looks like him, and she blocked me.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  111. @Escher
    @Buffalo Joe

    For #12, I give you Churchill (again), Putin, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    and I give you Homer Simpson

    • Replies: @Escher
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Lol.
    Your other points are well written and articulated. Apologies for ignoring the bulk of the comment in the earlier response.

    , @anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    ... ahhh ... back when The Simpsons was funny ...

  112. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Escher

    and I give you Homer Simpson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh17tdxRkeU

    Replies: @Escher, @anon

    Lol.
    Your other points are well written and articulated. Apologies for ignoring the bulk of the comment in the earlier response.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  113. @J.Ross
    @Wilkey

    Rumor but almost certainly true: a person who claims to have worked With Her says Hillary needs everyone in the room to know that she has the biggest thing women don't normally have, and let there be no confusion. Tim Kaine's semi-liquid face and craven positions suggest that he actually would be an excellent fit, because he would never get in the way or forget his place.

    Replies: @black sea

    Hillary needs everyone in the room to know that she has the biggest thing women don’t normally have, and let there be no confusion.

    A brain?

    • LOL: JMcG
  114. @Kronos
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Oh yes (in full.) Wolfe really saw the coming of SJWs. You remember the Asian chick who stood up to the frat jock and tricked him into saying a racial slur in public? She jumped up and down with happiness for gaining something that could get him expelled.

    I attended college a few years after the book was written and things had only progressed the way malignant cancer often does. (I read the book after graduating and thus my own experience is based on past reflection.)

    My favorite “scene” is the middle aged alumni taking his family to see his elite alma mater Dupont University having descended into debauchery. I thought this was actually Wolfe imposing his own attitudes and contrasting it to his own young college days. The family man referred to the frat boys wearing ties and women acting proper back in the day. But now, (early 2000s) they’re drinking in public and the women are quite slutty. The family man couldn’t have attended an elite university before the 1960s.

    Somewhere he talked about one particular frat house. It was very nice and elegant but the current frat boys were wrecking it over the years. They simply wouldn’t make a frat house that nice anymore. The serious study and dedication was long gone.

    Charlotte Simmons more resembled a nuclear bomb surviver like from the film “Blast from the Past.”

    https://youtu.be/AhMQOb0tEmI

    Her family background was dirt poor from isolated Appalachia but somehow that kept her away from the ugliness and self-indulgence of post-1960s America. It was a standard 1950s girl waking up to 21st century decadency. I mean she knew what rap was, but Wolfe really wanted to bring out that period contrast. (Even her supportive teacher from her hometown seemed time-locked in the past. She referred to things like values, respect, and importance of an education for its own sake. (I can’t find a video clip, but there’s a scene from “The Waltons” with the school teacher encouraging John-Boy to go to College.)

    You have a high-ability female equivalent of “John-Boy” going to a elite university that is essentially encased the “American Pie” ethos.

    https://youtu.be/qtKtxLmxl24

    It’s a very ugly and vulgar contrast. That poor girl is eventually baptized into the filth of modern “elite” society. Kronos couldn’t help but feel bad for that poor classy bitch.

    But at least Jo Jo learned to read good and articulate stuff in a goodly way.

    https://youtu.be/hRPfY4mE4ME

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @JohnnyWalker123

    Good comment.

    I thought one unrealistic aspect of his book was his depiction of Charlotte. There’s no way that anyone that naive could’ve existed in America at any point in the last 40 years. For better and for worse, the sexual revolution and pop culture had permeated every part of America by the 80s.

    How would anyone so socially isolated like that exist? Did Charlotte not own a tv or a radio? Did she not ever go to the movies? Had she never been outside her hamlet?

    Perhaps (as you said) Wolfe was trying to contrast his youth with the current era. Maybe Charlotte was supposed to be him, caught in a time warp that transported from her from the idyllic, conservative South of Wolfe’s youth.

    If you like the book, then I highly recommend watching this movie from 1999. Cruel Intentions. The plot involves a character similar to Hoyt Thorpe attempting to seduce a naive girl who’s reminiscent of Charlotte. The movie did reasonably well at the box office.

    Here’s the trailer.

    You can watch it here for free.

    • Thanks: Kronos
  115. @Bernard
    @JimB



    Joe Biden’s IQ is apparently only slightly higher than 80, which explains why he just barely passed high school.
     
    As much as I loathe defending Joe, this is just wrong. He passed the bar in a state with one of the more difficult exams. I doubt there’s ever been an 80 IQ who has done so. He’s far from bright, but he’s not an imbecile either.

    And having low intelligence is also a fairly strong marker for developing non-Alzheimer’s dementia later in life like the kind Joe Biden has.
     
    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous

    As much as I loathe defending Joe, this is just wrong. He passed the bar in a state with one of the more difficult exams. I doubt there’s ever been an 80 IQ who has done so.

    Unless someone else took the bar exam in his name. I’m trying to find out if test takers were finger printed in 1969. If so, has anyone confirmed that the fingerprint belongs to Joe? Probably worth looking into this. I’m not trying to start any conspiracy theories, but it’s worth rechecking this moron’s credentials.

  116. @Buffalo Joe
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, nice list and with regard to number one on your list I give you Winston Churchill.

    Replies: @Escher, @Rob McX

    But see number two:

    Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously…

    Churchill made up for many physical drawbacks with his style of speaking (I refer only to the impression he gave, as distinct from his intrinsic merits as a statesman, and I think this outward impression is what Johnny is dealing with in his comment). Seven or eight out of these twelve traits would probably get you by. An impression of unshakable confidence can compensate for a lot of deficiencies.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Rob McX

    Rob, good reply, but that was number one on his list.

  117. @Anonymous
    @Low energy noticer

    You miss the big picture of history...most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men "no, you CANNOT have everything."?

    Being very macho and dominant is a good way to make yourself a lot of enemies and die an early or violent death. Think Tupac Shakur or Pablo Escobar.

    My criticism of Sailer is how sophomoric and shallow his analysis is: to him, macho rules and non-macho not rules. Simple as that. He goes as far as making comments about a man's jaw line and then trying to asses derivative aspects of his personality basd on that. And then he makes tremendous jumps in logic about what that individual might do. He does that ALWAYS. Just look how weird it is that he always writes a paragraph or two about a male celebrity's jaw line to determine whether this is fit to be a leading man or not. What is a leading man anyway? The military is full of weak-jawed bureaucrats from West Point bossing around drill sargeants that would beat them to death in a one-on-one fight. Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does.

    Dominance can be subtle, and it is often is. For instance, liberals completely dominate conservatives at the highest level of politics, media and entertianment, and they did it with the pen, and not with their fists or guns. For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.

    Among the peoples of the Pacific, in the traditinal tribes, they showed that the most popular men were not necessarily the best warriors or macho, but the ones that had the best diplomatic skills and could form vast alliances. The men who rose to power were not necessarily aggressive domineering assholes, but nice guys that kissed other people's babies, did favors for others, threw their money around, etc. There is an old saying:

    "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar."

    Overt displays of machismo and dominance does not odten endeer you to people. Steve Sailer talks always about leading men in Hollywood, but the most LIKED Hollywood actors are genuine nice guys like Keanu Reeves and Leo DiCaprio. They are leading men and get paid millions of Dollars per film,but they are not super-macho(although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode). According to Sailer, Leo DiCaprio is not a leading man because his jawline is not impressive enough and he doen't look manly enough, And yet, Leo DiCaprio has made more money than super-macho Sly Stallone. There are many ways of being successful. Being super-masculine is more of a boomer fantasy about what a man is supposed to be.

    Replies: @Jon, @I’m not that guy, @Low T noticer, @bomag, @Pop Warner

    You haven’t been going out a lot lately. “Jock” types nowadays get an even greater share of female attention than they used to before the big change in social mores in the 60s, and the cohort of involuntary celibate men is fast approaching numbers you’d find in polygamist societies. Why do you think there’s so many resources online about “game”? It’s the reaction of the non-jocks to the sexual marketplace’s changing landscape. Even Sailer still has a link to Heartiste’s dead website.

    Either way, being lantern-jawed doesn’t necessarily mean you’re hyper-masculine, anymore than being Jamaican means you’re going to be a good sprinter, or being a Jew means you’re Nobel-winning material; it’s just an indication. Physiognomy is real and facial recognition is slowly getting there; stereotypes are real.

    Masculine dominance isn’t always having yuge muscles or being physically violent, and examples like an idiot thug with a big mouth or an amoral criminal (who lasted long enough, and would’ve lasted much longer if he’d managed to get his family out of Colombia) don’t mean anything. I could mention countless counterexamples of ultra-masculine men who weren’t big and beefed up, yet they wrote history: Russian dictators, Mongol khans, the diminutive Turks, every rebel leader there was etc etc.

  118. @Anonymous
    @Low energy noticer

    You miss the big picture of history...most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men "no, you CANNOT have everything."?

    Being very macho and dominant is a good way to make yourself a lot of enemies and die an early or violent death. Think Tupac Shakur or Pablo Escobar.

    My criticism of Sailer is how sophomoric and shallow his analysis is: to him, macho rules and non-macho not rules. Simple as that. He goes as far as making comments about a man's jaw line and then trying to asses derivative aspects of his personality basd on that. And then he makes tremendous jumps in logic about what that individual might do. He does that ALWAYS. Just look how weird it is that he always writes a paragraph or two about a male celebrity's jaw line to determine whether this is fit to be a leading man or not. What is a leading man anyway? The military is full of weak-jawed bureaucrats from West Point bossing around drill sargeants that would beat them to death in a one-on-one fight. Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does.

    Dominance can be subtle, and it is often is. For instance, liberals completely dominate conservatives at the highest level of politics, media and entertianment, and they did it with the pen, and not with their fists or guns. For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.

    Among the peoples of the Pacific, in the traditinal tribes, they showed that the most popular men were not necessarily the best warriors or macho, but the ones that had the best diplomatic skills and could form vast alliances. The men who rose to power were not necessarily aggressive domineering assholes, but nice guys that kissed other people's babies, did favors for others, threw their money around, etc. There is an old saying:

    "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar."

    Overt displays of machismo and dominance does not odten endeer you to people. Steve Sailer talks always about leading men in Hollywood, but the most LIKED Hollywood actors are genuine nice guys like Keanu Reeves and Leo DiCaprio. They are leading men and get paid millions of Dollars per film,but they are not super-macho(although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode). According to Sailer, Leo DiCaprio is not a leading man because his jawline is not impressive enough and he doen't look manly enough, And yet, Leo DiCaprio has made more money than super-macho Sly Stallone. There are many ways of being successful. Being super-masculine is more of a boomer fantasy about what a man is supposed to be.

    Replies: @Jon, @I’m not that guy, @Low T noticer, @bomag, @Pop Warner

    Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does

    Given the time and space constraints, Steve hits closer than almost anyone.

    For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.

    Seems completely wrong. The macho cultures of Africa and martial aspects of Islam are more in ascendance than the demure components of Europe/Asia.

  119. @Buzz Mohawk
    Here's a case that might interest Sailer or somebody:

    A kid is skipping his senior year of high school to go on and start his college football career.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904680-5-star-recruit-jack-sawyer-to-skip-senior-hs-season-enroll-early-at-ohio-state

    https://www.cleveland.com/resizer/Kv-jwxRghaLuqKyYeQNTz-yyTvM=/1280x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/INVYFP2ZJNGN7FEOHBY2PLNZLI.jpeg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jane Plain, @anon, @Ron Mexico

    Ohio is leaving Fall HS football up to localities. His district may or may not play in the Fall. Here in Michigan the entire HS football season was moved to the Spring. This might be a good decision on his part.

  120. Anonymous[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bernard
    @JimB



    Joe Biden’s IQ is apparently only slightly higher than 80, which explains why he just barely passed high school.
     
    As much as I loathe defending Joe, this is just wrong. He passed the bar in a state with one of the more difficult exams. I doubt there’s ever been an 80 IQ who has done so. He’s far from bright, but he’s not an imbecile either.

    And having low intelligence is also a fairly strong marker for developing non-Alzheimer’s dementia later in life like the kind Joe Biden has.
     
    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.

    Replies: @JimB, @Anonymous

    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.

    Is someone with higher intelligence more or less able to conceal it than someone with lower intelligence?

    • Replies: @Bernard
    @Anonymous

    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.


    Is someone with higher intelligence more or less able to conceal it than someone with lower intelligence?
     
    Yes, the intelligent are more capable of concealing it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  121. Anonymous[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Try dropping out of high school, getting some life experience on the road and in the woods, even working a job for part of that time and saving some money, and then starting college at age 21. Girls, girls, girls! A's, A's, A's. (I mean the grades, but also the anatomy :) )

    It wasn't really my plan, but that's how it went for me.

    As the saying goes, "Youth is wasted on the young." Someone older, but still young enough, can capitalize on his experience and development.

    (Oh, the other advantage was that I was old enough to go buy kegs of beer and bring them back in the enormous trunk of my '67 Chevy Biscayne.)

    Replies: @njguy73, @GLT, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous

    Try dropping out of high school, getting some life experience on the road and in the woods, even working a job for part of that time and saving some money, and then starting college at age 21. Girls, girls, girls! A’s, A’s, A’s. (I mean the grades, but also the anatomy 🙂 )

    What sort of college did you go to? Simple curiosity.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Anonymous

    http://www.wiu.edu/cofac/choirs/images/colorado/boulder01.jpg

  122. @BB753
    Red-shirting or not, Biden seems to have been lacking in real smarts all his life. What IQ can he possibly have left at nearly 77 years of age and possibly early stage senile dementia?

    Replies: @David In TN

    A favorite trope of the media and liberals in general going back to Adlai Stevenson is making a Democrat presidential nominee out to be of superhuman intelligence. This was used with Stevenson, JFK, Carter, Dukakis, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Obama and to a lesser extent maybe Al Gore.

    Even with John Kerry, a NY Times column declared “Kerry certainly has a higher IQ than George W. Bush.”

    I believe Steve Sailer refuted that at the time.

    I recall during the Lewinsky Affair, a liberal columnist (don’t remember the name) wrote something like “We’ve heard enough of Bill Clinton’s supposed super intelligence.” The inference was if Clinton was so smart, he wouldn’t have been in the situation he was in.

  123. @Buffalo Joe
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Howard, my grand daughter attends THE Ohio State and I am a long time Buckeye fan. But unusual year this season with no football. The NCAA will extend, I guarantee it, eligibility for this year's class and seniors. That means this young man will be behind players that should have graduated and will still be starting. The great D-1 teams are three and four deep at skilled positions. This young man may not get to play for two seasons. Ohio HSs are playing football this fall, probably only conference games, which would typically be about six games. Can't think of the young man's name, but the Heisman Trophy winner, Joe Whatever, who led LSU to the D-1 National Championship transferred from Ohio State because they were 4 deep at QB.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Federalist

    But unusual year this season with no football.

    As of now, the SEC, ACC, and Big 12 are going to play. If it really happens, that could set the Big 10 and Pac 12 back. (The Pac 12 has already been in decline for a while).

    The NCAA will extend, I guarantee it, eligibility for this year’s class and seniors. That means this young man will be behind players that should have graduated and will still be starting.

    Despite eligibility being extended, very few draft eligible juniors and seniors would play.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Federalist


    If it really happens, that could set the Big 10 and Pac 12 back. (The Pac 12 has already been in decline for a while).
     
    I'd argue that the Big 10 has been in decline as well. For the past several years it has been Ohio State and everyone else.

    As a formerly proud Michigan alum, I wish Harbaugh would shut his GD mouth and refund 50% of his salary for underperformance.
  124. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @BernieBroBot

    Red shirting was great for your son, no doubt, but every kid who didn't get red shirted was screwed over, forced to compete with an older child. (If you red shirt your kid for a year, then why do it just for one? Why not do it for two, even three years?)

    The kid who stood out in my grade when I was in elementary school was almost an entire year older than several children in my class. We all admired his athletic prowess and intelligence, but now, looking back, I recognize that his dad, who was the principal of the town's high school, had decided to give his son an edge by having him compete against children less mature than him. (His birthday was the first week in September and children were eligible to enroll in 1st grade if they turned 6 before the 15th of October.)

    When you're older, the difference of a year isn't much, but when you're under 16 the difference of a year can be huge.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Anonymous

    I had the biggest schlong of anyone in the third grade.

    Of course, I was 12.

    • Thanks: Bill Jones
    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
  125. @JohnnyWalker123
    If you want to be a leader of men, do the following.

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don't need to be built like a tank. People won't take you seriously if you're fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.

    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don't have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don't have to be Barry White, but people it's bit weird when someone's voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.

    7. Don't act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it's nothing. Don't get angry or moody (see above point).

    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don't have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they'll give you TREMENDOUS respect.

    11. Don't apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.

    12. If you're losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.

    I guarantee if you do all of the above, other men will respect you and follow you. You'll do especially well in sales.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Paul Mendez, @Sean, @prosa123

    Being a leader is like being a KO punch boxer, they are born not made.
    Re your list some comments.
    1. Don’t mastrubate. Or drink. Don’t let yourself go, but working out oft times escalates until it causes nasty injuries. That makes you look stupid.
    2. Not necessary to be a great conversationalist in private interaction, but mastery of public speaking and the ability to elicit emotion in others is essential. Again, born not made.
    3. Trump never uses long words. He laconically alludes to things rather than being specific.
    4. Nothing to add.
    5. True but a bit overused nowadays.
    6. Trump had a perfectly synchronised double karate chop and now favours the ‘playing the accordion’ gesture. Not macho, but he is naturally butch.
    7. Can be overdone and leave you looking cold and unfeeling.
    8. Never seem to take yourself too seriously.
    9. Be willing to take very real risks, but develop expertise in the area you are taking them in beforehand.
    10. Being popular with women is why men want to be leaders in the first place.
    11. Don’t do anything you are not willing to stand by and account for.
    12. Bald men are perceived as as unassertive. Probably because they are. Baldness was associated with being gay in a genetic study

    If you want loyalty you must give it to something beyond yourself, irrespective of the consequences, and in the knowledge the odds are against you.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Sean


    Re your list some comments.
    1. Don’t mastrubate. Or drink. Don’t let yourself go, but working out oft times escalates until it causes nasty injuries. That makes you look stupid.
     
    I don't know if you're joking here, but why do you say not to masturbate, and would that apply to abstinence from sex as well? After all, from a certain physiological viewpoint, the masturbation and sex acts are the same.

    It's well known that boxers have this folk wisdom thing about not having sex before a big fight, and I think avoiding masturbation is implied in this as well. Which would suggest that they're sort of seen as equivalent and avoiding both is important. But men are drawn to become leaders in large part in order to have sex. So abstinence would kind of defeat the whole purpose for many would be and actual leaders.

    I've heard some doctors say that this sort of folk wisdom about abstinence from sex and masturbation doesn't really work anyway, because it just ends up inducing the body to have nocturnal emissions.

    Replies: @Wrong, @GoRedWings!

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Sean


    until it causes nasty injuries

     

    That's why you need to work out with LIGHT weights and do high reps. It gives you a more defined and chiseled physique, but minimizes the odds of injury. Eat a lot of protein and sleep 7-8 hours a night. Also, after working out, take 2 days off. Taking a collagen supplement (and perhaps MSM too) can help with ligaments.

    Trump had a perfectly synchronised double karate chop
     
    The karate chop is a true alpha male gesture. Use it often.

    Not a huge fan of the accordion, as it seems wishy washy and weak.

    7. Can be overdone and leave you looking cold and unfeeling.

     

    That's why you have to tell jokes... and smile a lot. Don't forget to smile. Smirking occasionally isn't a bad thing, but don't overdo it because it can come across as obnoxious. A bit of emotion can be okay from time to time, but it shouldn't be a regular thing.

    8. Never seem to take yourself too seriously.

     

    Agreed. 100%. If you can laugh at yourself, it helps put people at ease and makes you seem "cool."

    9. Be willing to take very real risks, but develop expertise in the area you are taking them in beforehand.

     

    Agreed.

    12. Bald men are perceived as as unassertive. Probably because they are. Baldness was associated with being gay in a genetic study

     

    Bald men are unassertive, boring, and unattractive. Bald guys remind people of a married suburban guy who's pudgy, whipped by his wife, and low-testosterone. He drives a station wagon and owns a time share in Oregon. He's over the hill. Bald means safe and steady..... Though that's not always a bad thing.

    A thick head of hair is proud. It's virile. To women at least, it's sexy. It's a youthful breath of fresh air in a moribund organization. The guy is ready to take the reigns and take the organization to the next level.
  126. @Kronos
    @Anonymous


    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity
     
    Who let the gamma in here?

    Steve’s assumptions really are good rules of thumb. His marketing background definitely helps him understand on what sells and what doesn’t. Masculinity and dominance are highly attractive to both men and women. Tom Wolfe incorporated that observation in various ways in his books. Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.) Wolfe incorporated various traits he witnessed in Atlanta into that character.

    https://www.amazon.com/Man-Full-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0553381334

    Currently, society is experiencing a revolt against the natural order of feminine beauty and masculine strength. The feminists are winning somewhat in arm twisting media outlets in promoting ugly fat women, but then sells drop (from the female demographic no less) and they revert back to the status quo. Thankfully, the same effect isn’t being used to promote weak men nearly as much. Both genders (there are only two) find that disgusting and the demand isn’t there.

    https://i.insider.com/519ce57d69bedd3c5c000007?width=1190

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @anon, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter, @dvorak

    That’s funny. This “gamma” would slap you around and embarrass you in real life. Steve Sailer is a joke. And so you are. All this talk about “alpha males” and “beta males”:, etc, reeks of male insecurity.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Anonymous

    Just something a blue pilled beta male would say.

    https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862

    To attack masculinity is a very common attack used my women and effeminate men. “Oh he’s ripped and didn’t ask me out, he must be gay.” Or, there’s the “oh he has a wide collection of firearms and a truck, he must be compensating for something.”

    If your male I highly recommend you read this book. It might help free you from “single-mother syndrome.” There are better things to do than threaten people with a slapping on the internet.

    https://youtu.be/KFO_xVuy_BQ

  127. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @BernieBroBot

    Red shirting was great for your son, no doubt, but every kid who didn't get red shirted was screwed over, forced to compete with an older child. (If you red shirt your kid for a year, then why do it just for one? Why not do it for two, even three years?)

    The kid who stood out in my grade when I was in elementary school was almost an entire year older than several children in my class. We all admired his athletic prowess and intelligence, but now, looking back, I recognize that his dad, who was the principal of the town's high school, had decided to give his son an edge by having him compete against children less mature than him. (His birthday was the first week in September and children were eligible to enroll in 1st grade if they turned 6 before the 15th of October.)

    When you're older, the difference of a year isn't much, but when you're under 16 the difference of a year can be huge.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Anonymous

    Being the biggest kid in the class makes you lazy and complacent.

  128. @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous

    When did the Nice Midwestern Boys of The Big Ten become such pu****s?

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Add to the list of womanish hysterics unwilling to read, learn, and think for themselves: an NHL goalie who abandoned his team, on short notice, skipping the playoffs (breaching his contract) to “go home to my wife and children” without further risk of THE VIRUS:

    https://www.pressherald.com/2020/08/15/bruins-goalie-tuukka-rask-opts-out-of-nhl-playoffs/

    Young, healthy, fit, strong guy — who could kick my butt in a minute even if i were his age — and presumably of adequate or better intelligence and literacy. Yet he throws a hissy fit and runs off hysterically without having any idea what he is talking about. The other players and the coaches “support his decision”, also without having even TRIED to learn the apparent facts about the virus.

    Impressive, our brainwashed frightened young “men” today.

  129. @Kronos
    @Anonymous


    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity
     
    Who let the gamma in here?

    Steve’s assumptions really are good rules of thumb. His marketing background definitely helps him understand on what sells and what doesn’t. Masculinity and dominance are highly attractive to both men and women. Tom Wolfe incorporated that observation in various ways in his books. Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.) Wolfe incorporated various traits he witnessed in Atlanta into that character.

    https://www.amazon.com/Man-Full-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0553381334

    Currently, society is experiencing a revolt against the natural order of feminine beauty and masculine strength. The feminists are winning somewhat in arm twisting media outlets in promoting ugly fat women, but then sells drop (from the female demographic no less) and they revert back to the status quo. Thankfully, the same effect isn’t being used to promote weak men nearly as much. Both genders (there are only two) find that disgusting and the demand isn’t there.

    https://i.insider.com/519ce57d69bedd3c5c000007?width=1190

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @anon, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter, @dvorak

    Well said, Kronos. But don’t even use their nonsense word “gender.”

    There are two SEXES, period, and an extremely tiny percentage of unfortunate people who have a genetic defect causing hermaphroditism.

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @RadicalCenter


    But don’t even use their nonsense word “gender.”
     
    Fair enough. Before this craziness gender was seen as a strict synonym for sex. I generally preferred using “gender” over “sex” because throughout K-12 education you’ll always receive a group snicker upon uttering the latter in a class setting.

    https://youtu.be/Owtw1OXB5tQ
  130. @Anonymous
    @Low energy noticer

    You miss the big picture of history...most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men "no, you CANNOT have everything."?

    Being very macho and dominant is a good way to make yourself a lot of enemies and die an early or violent death. Think Tupac Shakur or Pablo Escobar.

    My criticism of Sailer is how sophomoric and shallow his analysis is: to him, macho rules and non-macho not rules. Simple as that. He goes as far as making comments about a man's jaw line and then trying to asses derivative aspects of his personality basd on that. And then he makes tremendous jumps in logic about what that individual might do. He does that ALWAYS. Just look how weird it is that he always writes a paragraph or two about a male celebrity's jaw line to determine whether this is fit to be a leading man or not. What is a leading man anyway? The military is full of weak-jawed bureaucrats from West Point bossing around drill sargeants that would beat them to death in a one-on-one fight. Human soscieties cannot be summarized that simply as Sailer does.

    Dominance can be subtle, and it is often is. For instance, liberals completely dominate conservatives at the highest level of politics, media and entertianment, and they did it with the pen, and not with their fists or guns. For instance, young people have a very strong rejection of men with jock looks and personality nowadays. There is a very, very strong anti-bully culture among young people, of rejection of masculine power and of empathy and inclusion.

    Among the peoples of the Pacific, in the traditinal tribes, they showed that the most popular men were not necessarily the best warriors or macho, but the ones that had the best diplomatic skills and could form vast alliances. The men who rose to power were not necessarily aggressive domineering assholes, but nice guys that kissed other people's babies, did favors for others, threw their money around, etc. There is an old saying:

    "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar."

    Overt displays of machismo and dominance does not odten endeer you to people. Steve Sailer talks always about leading men in Hollywood, but the most LIKED Hollywood actors are genuine nice guys like Keanu Reeves and Leo DiCaprio. They are leading men and get paid millions of Dollars per film,but they are not super-macho(although Reeves with his John Wick character might be starting to break mode). According to Sailer, Leo DiCaprio is not a leading man because his jawline is not impressive enough and he doen't look manly enough, And yet, Leo DiCaprio has made more money than super-macho Sly Stallone. There are many ways of being successful. Being super-masculine is more of a boomer fantasy about what a man is supposed to be.

    Replies: @Jon, @I’m not that guy, @Low T noticer, @bomag, @Pop Warner

    most of history is actually REVOLT against masculine dominance, rather than something dominated by it. What is democracy if not people coming together to say to powerful men “no, you CANNOT have everything.”?

    What an idiotic thing to say. You imply that revolution is somehow feminine, when revolt against the order embodies masculinity. To submit and accept subservience is a fundamentally feminine trait, and feminists in modern history are characterized by their masculinity. And “democracy” as you describe it is still carried out by men, women largely follow order and authority and are far less likely to fight against it beyond the aforementioned masculine women. It sounds like you have a complex about men more than you do any reasonable point

  131. @ES
    @Anonymous

    Delaware had good public schools in the pre-busing era. The purpose of Archmere Academy was to protect Catholic schoolchildren from Protestant influences. How did that work out in Joe's case? What's his view on abortion rights?

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Yeah, those dangerous Protestants.

    We gotta keep the kids with deviant sodomite priests and bitter frustrated nuns where they’re safe.

    Plus the unmarried “men” who don’t compete for women or real jobs and never have children, living permanently with other men — they are just SUPER role models for the boys.

    • Agree: GoRedWings!
  132. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was born on November 20, 1942 …

    Wait…his middle name is Robinette?!?

    I can’t believe I’m only learning that now.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    It's OK, it was his paternal grandmother's surname.

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    So the eight years of Barack Hussein Obama and Joseph Robinette Biden was, basically, "Black Man & Robinette" ?

    Poor Biden. Not even a full Robin. Just a Robinette.

  133. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Being a leader is like being a KO punch boxer, they are born not made.
    Re your list some comments.
    1. Don't mastrubate. Or drink. Don't let yourself go, but working out oft times escalates until it causes nasty injuries. That makes you look stupid.
    2. Not necessary to be a great conversationalist in private interaction, but mastery of public speaking and the ability to elicit emotion in others is essential. Again, born not made.
    3. Trump never uses long words. He laconically alludes to things rather than being specific.
    4. Nothing to add.
    5. True but a bit overused nowadays.
    6. Trump had a perfectly synchronised double karate chop and now favours the 'playing the accordion' gesture. Not macho, but he is naturally butch.
    7. Can be overdone and leave you looking cold and unfeeling.
    8. Never seem to take yourself too seriously.
    9. Be willing to take very real risks, but develop expertise in the area you are taking them in beforehand.
    10. Being popular with women is why men want to be leaders in the first place.
    11. Don't do anything you are not willing to stand by and account for.
    12. Bald men are perceived as as unassertive. Probably because they are. Baldness was associated with being gay in a genetic study


    If you want loyalty you must give it to something beyond yourself, irrespective of the consequences, and in the knowledge the odds are against you.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123

    Re your list some comments.
    1. Don’t mastrubate. Or drink. Don’t let yourself go, but working out oft times escalates until it causes nasty injuries. That makes you look stupid.

    I don’t know if you’re joking here, but why do you say not to masturbate, and would that apply to abstinence from sex as well? After all, from a certain physiological viewpoint, the masturbation and sex acts are the same.

    It’s well known that boxers have this folk wisdom thing about not having sex before a big fight, and I think avoiding masturbation is implied in this as well. Which would suggest that they’re sort of seen as equivalent and avoiding both is important. But men are drawn to become leaders in large part in order to have sex. So abstinence would kind of defeat the whole purpose for many would be and actual leaders.

    I’ve heard some doctors say that this sort of folk wisdom about abstinence from sex and masturbation doesn’t really work anyway, because it just ends up inducing the body to have nocturnal emissions.

    • Replies: @Wrong
    @Anonymous

    From a physiological standpoint, masturbation and sex are effectively the same –though there are mechanical differences.
    From a psychological standpoint, though, it's night and day. Masturbation is passive, solitary, isolating, and disconnects arousal and orgasm from normal sex. Porn addiction is a real thing, and it's been affecting many more men than it should, no matter what shills paid by the porn industry may tell you; there's no definite evidence for that yet only because there aren't any studies of large enough scale out there atm.

    Sex is a different thing: you have to actually engage the woman and dominate her in bed, despite what feminists are parroting today (while doing the opposite once they log out of wherever they spew their untruths).

    , @GoRedWings!
    @Anonymous


    boxers have this folk wisdom thing about not having sex before a big fight
     
    In 2014, when they demolished Brazil 7:1 and beat Argentina to become World Champions, players of Germany's equipe were encouraged by the coach to spend the night before games with their spouses, just like the victorious Dutch in 1976 (https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/Sex-vor-dem-Spiel-Ja-oder-nein-id30085812.html)
    Perhaps boxing requires a different... attitude? Which sport is more comparable to social interactions?
  134. @Rob McX
    @Buffalo Joe

    But see number two:


    Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously...
     
    Churchill made up for many physical drawbacks with his style of speaking (I refer only to the impression he gave, as distinct from his intrinsic merits as a statesman, and I think this outward impression is what Johnny is dealing with in his comment). Seven or eight out of these twelve traits would probably get you by. An impression of unshakable confidence can compensate for a lot of deficiencies.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Rob, good reply, but that was number one on his list.

  135. @Anonymous
    @Kronos

    That's funny. This "gamma" would slap you around and embarrass you in real life. Steve Sailer is a joke. And so you are. All this talk about "alpha males" and "beta males":, etc, reeks of male insecurity.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Just something a blue pilled beta male would say.

    To attack masculinity is a very common attack used my women and effeminate men. “Oh he’s ripped and didn’t ask me out, he must be gay.” Or, there’s the “oh he has a wide collection of firearms and a truck, he must be compensating for something.”

    If your male I highly recommend you read this book. It might help free you from “single-mother syndrome.” There are better things to do than threaten people with a slapping on the internet.

  136. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Escher

    and I give you Homer Simpson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh17tdxRkeU

    Replies: @Escher, @anon

    … ahhh … back when The Simpsons was funny …

  137. @JohnnyWalker123
    If you want to be a leader of men, do the following.

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don't need to be built like a tank. People won't take you seriously if you're fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.

    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don't have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don't have to be Barry White, but people it's bit weird when someone's voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.

    7. Don't act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it's nothing. Don't get angry or moody (see above point).

    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don't have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they'll give you TREMENDOUS respect.

    11. Don't apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.

    12. If you're losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.

    I guarantee if you do all of the above, other men will respect you and follow you. You'll do especially well in sales.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Paul Mendez, @Sean, @prosa123

    If you want to be a leader of men, do the following. [My comments in bold]

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don’t need to be built like a tank. People won’t take you seriously if you’re fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.
    Mostly true, though an average build usually is okay. Being fat is definitely a HUGE negative.

    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don’t have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.
    Agreed 100%.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.
    Using complex words is helpful but not vital. If you use them, make sure you get the meaning right, e.g. don’t say “parameters” when you mean “perimeters.”

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.
    Proper fitting and clean clothes are important, but that’s about all.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don’t have to be Barry White, but people it’s bit weird when someone’s voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.
    Agreed.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.
    Disagree. Hand gestures are pointless at best.

    7. Don’t act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.
    Agreed.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it’s nothing. Don’t get angry or moody (see above point).
    Telling (appropriate for the audience) jokes is fine, IF you can do so without coming off as a doofus. That’s not easy.

    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don’t have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.
    And try to avoid showing excessive interest in nerdy things like sci-fi or D&D.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they’ll give you TREMENDOUS respect.
    Usually it’s the other way around: men try to be popular with other men because it makes it much easier to nail women.

    11. Don’t apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.
    Agreed.

    12. If you’re losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.
    Completely wrong. Hair transplants look ridiculous. Being bald can be very cool.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @prosa123


    Completely wrong. Hair transplants look ridiculous. Being bald can be very cool.
     
    Hair transplants are actually very good these days. Much better than the ones they had in the 90s. They're also very affordable now. Lots of middle class Americans and Europeans go to countries like Turkey for cheap but good hair transplants. The rate of baldness in Turkey and the Middle East is very high, so the doctors there get lots of practice. So you get quality at a very affordable price.

    The only annoying thing about hair transplants is that they're not a permanent cure. You generally still have to be on a finasteride/Propecia and minoxidil/Rogaine to preserve the transplanted hair. Which isn't a big deal, just popping a pill and rubbing some cream on your head everyday. Also you might need to get another one in the future.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @prosa123


    Mostly true, though an average build usually is okay. Being fat is definitely a HUGE negative.
     
    Low body fat can make your face look chiseled. Especially if you have a strong jaw line, that's really good.

    Proper fitting and clean clothes are important, but that’s about all.

     

    Fit is very important. You'd be surprised how many people screw that up.

    Disagree. Hand gestures are pointless at best.

     

    I disagree. From my experience, a lot of people don't pay careful attention to words. For a lot of people, it's not what you say. It's how you say it. With alpha male hand gestures, people can be easily impressed. That type of stuff registers with people.

    IF you can do so without coming off as a doofus.
     
    Yeah, you don't want to be a doofus. Practice the joke a few times beforehand with your relatives.

    And try to avoid showing excessive interest in nerdy things like sci-fi or D&D.

     

    Yes. D&D will torpedo you quickly.

    Completely wrong. Hair transplants look ridiculous. Being bald can be very cool.

     

    If you don't want to do a transplant, then shave it all off . Partially bald (with the crown totally gone and hair on the sides&back) looks horrible.

    Also, make sure to have a low body fat percentage and be thin, as bald guys look much better with a chiseled look. Fat and bald (or super muscular and bald) looks BAD.

    Make sure not to have a weird head shape. If your head looks funny, being bald is definitely NOT advisable. Get the transplant.
  138. @Kronos
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Oh yes (in full.) Wolfe really saw the coming of SJWs. You remember the Asian chick who stood up to the frat jock and tricked him into saying a racial slur in public? She jumped up and down with happiness for gaining something that could get him expelled.

    I attended college a few years after the book was written and things had only progressed the way malignant cancer often does. (I read the book after graduating and thus my own experience is based on past reflection.)

    My favorite “scene” is the middle aged alumni taking his family to see his elite alma mater Dupont University having descended into debauchery. I thought this was actually Wolfe imposing his own attitudes and contrasting it to his own young college days. The family man referred to the frat boys wearing ties and women acting proper back in the day. But now, (early 2000s) they’re drinking in public and the women are quite slutty. The family man couldn’t have attended an elite university before the 1960s.

    Somewhere he talked about one particular frat house. It was very nice and elegant but the current frat boys were wrecking it over the years. They simply wouldn’t make a frat house that nice anymore. The serious study and dedication was long gone.

    Charlotte Simmons more resembled a nuclear bomb surviver like from the film “Blast from the Past.”

    https://youtu.be/AhMQOb0tEmI

    Her family background was dirt poor from isolated Appalachia but somehow that kept her away from the ugliness and self-indulgence of post-1960s America. It was a standard 1950s girl waking up to 21st century decadency. I mean she knew what rap was, but Wolfe really wanted to bring out that period contrast. (Even her supportive teacher from her hometown seemed time-locked in the past. She referred to things like values, respect, and importance of an education for its own sake. (I can’t find a video clip, but there’s a scene from “The Waltons” with the school teacher encouraging John-Boy to go to College.)

    You have a high-ability female equivalent of “John-Boy” going to a elite university that is essentially encased the “American Pie” ethos.

    https://youtu.be/qtKtxLmxl24

    It’s a very ugly and vulgar contrast. That poor girl is eventually baptized into the filth of modern “elite” society. Kronos couldn’t help but feel bad for that poor classy bitch.

    But at least Jo Jo learned to read good and articulate stuff in a goodly way.

    https://youtu.be/hRPfY4mE4ME

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @JohnnyWalker123

    In the past 5-7 years, lots of universities have really cracked down on the party scene. There are far more police patrols around campuses, with students being arrested for public intoxication. When big house parties happen, cops are quick to issue EXPENSIVE citations.

    For example, read this.

    https://www.actionnewsnow.com/content/news/Booze-Free-Labor-Day-Floating-492352771.html

    Read this too.

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cal-poly-san-luis-obispo/1983227-is-cal-poly-slo-a-party-school.html

    Across the country, you see stuff like this happening.

    The debauchery is only a fraction of what it use to be in the past.

    I believe Wolfe wrote the book based on his conversations with various students. Most likely, those students were friends of his daughter, who attended Duke from 1998-2002. Things were way different back then.

    Also, lots of former “party schools” are much more rigorous these days, with entering freshmen often having absurdly high SATs and GPAs. Good lucking getting into Duke, USC, UGA, or UC Santa Barbara with anything less than a 1400 (especially if you’re non-Jewish White). Lots of the White “party crowd” has been shut out by the rising standards at these FORMER (no longer) “party schools.”

    Of course, there are places like Chico, LSU, and Ole Miss. However, even those places are cracking down on the revelry (see first link that I posted at the beginning of my post).

    With all the hysteria about campus rape, a guy like Hoyt Thorpe could get in serious trouble these days. So men are more careful now.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @JohnnyWalker123


    When big house parties happen, cops are quick to issue EXPENSIVE citations.

     

    Yeah, they busted two parties I attended a few years ago. They gave this girl a $350 fine for hosting the party. A decent sized house party can get real quite if cops are at the front door. Most of the fun parties were performed at these mountainous wooden areas far away from potential noise complaint call-ins to the po-po.

    The debauchery is only a fraction of what it use to be in the past.
     
    I feel that’s a big dividing line between Generation X and Millennials. The various lawsuits, moral panics, and sad dead teenager/young adult stories from the former boxed in the latter into bubbles and safe spaces. (Keep in mind the college rape allegations in “The Man in Full” helped cause the racial frictions in the book. That book took place in 1998 and “I am Charolette Simmons” took place in 2002(?))

    https://youtu.be/InnwzzJa8ek

    Generation X was often ignored and forever demoted to latchkey kid status, but they possessed a cool amount of freedom. Millennials got stuck with preventive lawsuit measures (endless education on eating disorders, drug abuse, and the danger of (cheap/lousy street) guns.) With a draconian 1994 crime bill to keep us in line. (No white kid ever wanted to become the “Jr. Great White Defendant.”)

    https://youtu.be/RILdAz62Lyg

    One of the interesting changes in the dating scene is documented in the book “Game” by Roosh V. (The book is hard to find, he found religion and removed these great books for encouraging sinful acts.)

    http://masculinebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Game-by-Roosh-V.jpg

    Roosh was part of the great “era of the playa” from the 1990s to 2010. For various reasons 2010 marked the end of that apparently wondrous time. It closely coincides with Sailer decrying 2013 as the “Great Awokening.” Suddenly, stuff that was the norm was grounds for extrajudicial expulsion. No trial, no evidence, no appeal. If a high status guy didn’t reply to your texts after a one-night-stand that was rape.

    So you had cultural decadence 20 years ago, but now you have feminazi’s running all of college government.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @JohnnyWalker123

  139. @Anonymous
    @Bernard


    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.
     
    Is someone with higher intelligence more or less able to conceal it than someone with lower intelligence?

    Replies: @Bernard

    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.

    Is someone with higher intelligence more or less able to conceal it than someone with lower intelligence?

    Yes, the intelligent are more capable of concealing it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bernard



    Is someone with higher intelligence more or less able to conceal it than someone with lower intelligence?
     
    Yes, the intelligent are more capable of concealing it.
     
    But they have more to have to conceal.
  140. @Kronos
    @Anonymous


    Also, this obsession of yours with whether celebrity X is masculine or not is a sign of insecurity on your part about where you fit in this pecking order of masculinity
     
    Who let the gamma in here?

    Steve’s assumptions really are good rules of thumb. His marketing background definitely helps him understand on what sells and what doesn’t. Masculinity and dominance are highly attractive to both men and women. Tom Wolfe incorporated that observation in various ways in his books. Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.) Wolfe incorporated various traits he witnessed in Atlanta into that character.

    https://www.amazon.com/Man-Full-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0553381334

    Currently, society is experiencing a revolt against the natural order of feminine beauty and masculine strength. The feminists are winning somewhat in arm twisting media outlets in promoting ugly fat women, but then sells drop (from the female demographic no less) and they revert back to the status quo. Thankfully, the same effect isn’t being used to promote weak men nearly as much. Both genders (there are only two) find that disgusting and the demand isn’t there.

    https://i.insider.com/519ce57d69bedd3c5c000007?width=1190

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @anon, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter, @dvorak

    Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.)

    You should finish it. It has a good ending that disappointed the NYT’s Michiko Kakutani. She didn’t get it because she’s not a man.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @dvorak

    I’ll eventually get back on track.

  141. @Federalist
    @Buffalo Joe


    But unusual year this season with no football.
     
    As of now, the SEC, ACC, and Big 12 are going to play. If it really happens, that could set the Big 10 and Pac 12 back. (The Pac 12 has already been in decline for a while).

    The NCAA will extend, I guarantee it, eligibility for this year’s class and seniors. That means this young man will be behind players that should have graduated and will still be starting.
     
    Despite eligibility being extended, very few draft eligible juniors and seniors would play.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    If it really happens, that could set the Big 10 and Pac 12 back. (The Pac 12 has already been in decline for a while).

    I’d argue that the Big 10 has been in decline as well. For the past several years it has been Ohio State and everyone else.

    As a formerly proud Michigan alum, I wish Harbaugh would shut his GD mouth and refund 50% of his salary for underperformance.

  142. @Bernard
    @Anonymous

    I don’t think this is true, in my experience Alzheimer’s is linked with many different things, but intelligence has little to do with it except in the afflicted’ s ability to conceal it before it’s discovered. Biden has it, I have no doubt, but it’s not because he’s stupid.


    Is someone with higher intelligence more or less able to conceal it than someone with lower intelligence?
     
    Yes, the intelligent are more capable of concealing it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Is someone with higher intelligence more or less able to conceal it than someone with lower intelligence?

    Yes, the intelligent are more capable of concealing it.

    But they have more to have to conceal.

  143. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos

    In the past 5-7 years, lots of universities have really cracked down on the party scene. There are far more police patrols around campuses, with students being arrested for public intoxication. When big house parties happen, cops are quick to issue EXPENSIVE citations.

    For example, read this.

    https://www.actionnewsnow.com/content/news/Booze-Free-Labor-Day-Floating-492352771.html

    Read this too.

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cal-poly-san-luis-obispo/1983227-is-cal-poly-slo-a-party-school.html

    Across the country, you see stuff like this happening.

    The debauchery is only a fraction of what it use to be in the past.

    I believe Wolfe wrote the book based on his conversations with various students. Most likely, those students were friends of his daughter, who attended Duke from 1998-2002. Things were way different back then.

    Also, lots of former "party schools" are much more rigorous these days, with entering freshmen often having absurdly high SATs and GPAs. Good lucking getting into Duke, USC, UGA, or UC Santa Barbara with anything less than a 1400 (especially if you're non-Jewish White). Lots of the White "party crowd" has been shut out by the rising standards at these FORMER (no longer) "party schools."

    Of course, there are places like Chico, LSU, and Ole Miss. However, even those places are cracking down on the revelry (see first link that I posted at the beginning of my post).

    With all the hysteria about campus rape, a guy like Hoyt Thorpe could get in serious trouble these days. So men are more careful now.

    Replies: @Kronos

    When big house parties happen, cops are quick to issue EXPENSIVE citations.

    Yeah, they busted two parties I attended a few years ago. They gave this girl a $350 fine for hosting the party. A decent sized house party can get real quite if cops are at the front door. Most of the fun parties were performed at these mountainous wooden areas far away from potential noise complaint call-ins to the po-po.

    The debauchery is only a fraction of what it use to be in the past.

    I feel that’s a big dividing line between Generation X and Millennials. The various lawsuits, moral panics, and sad dead teenager/young adult stories from the former boxed in the latter into bubbles and safe spaces. (Keep in mind the college rape allegations in “The Man in Full” helped cause the racial frictions in the book. That book took place in 1998 and “I am Charolette Simmons” took place in 2002(?))

    Generation X was often ignored and forever demoted to latchkey kid status, but they possessed a cool amount of freedom. Millennials got stuck with preventive lawsuit measures (endless education on eating disorders, drug abuse, and the danger of (cheap/lousy street) guns.) With a draconian 1994 crime bill to keep us in line. (No white kid ever wanted to become the “Jr. Great White Defendant.”)

    One of the interesting changes in the dating scene is documented in the book “Game” by Roosh V. (The book is hard to find, he found religion and removed these great books for encouraging sinful acts.)

    Roosh was part of the great “era of the playa” from the 1990s to 2010. For various reasons 2010 marked the end of that apparently wondrous time. It closely coincides with Sailer decrying 2013 as the “Great Awokening.” Suddenly, stuff that was the norm was grounds for extrajudicial expulsion. No trial, no evidence, no appeal. If a high status guy didn’t reply to your texts after a one-night-stand that was rape.

    So you had cultural decadence 20 years ago, but now you have feminazi’s running all of college government.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos


    Yeah, they busted two parties I attended a few years ago. They gave this girl a $350 fine for hosting the party. A decent sized house party can get real quite if cops are at the front door.

     

    Back 10-15 years ago, you could easily throw a wild house party in a frat house that was LITERALLY across the street from campus. People would spill out onto the street. Intoxicated people could walk around in public, without any issues. People could park almost anywhere.

    IF a cop did come (which often did not happen), he'd just give you a simple warning. No fine.

    Most of the fun parties were performed at these mountainous wooden areas far away from potential noise complaint call-ins to the po-po.

     

    A lot of parents don't want to give out their homes these days. There was a time when a young kid could easily get his parents to hand over the keys for the cabin. These days parents do not want to assume the liability of letting their kid have an unsupervised party.

    I feel that’s a big dividing line between Generation X and Millennials. The various lawsuits, moral panics, and sad dead teenager/young adult stories from the former boxed in the latter into bubbles and safe spaces.

     

    Right. It's less so the Millenials (who still engaged in some degree of debauchery) than the Generation Z crowd. They're living in a much more unforgiving world.

    I think a lot of Generation Xers flamed out pretty hard from a combination of parental neglect, growing up too quickly, and wild partying. So the parental/authority figures tightened up a lot with the next 2 generations (Millenials and more especially Generation Z).

    Generation X was often ignored and forever demoted to latchkey kid status, but they possessed a cool amount of freedom.

     

    A ton of freedom. More than even the Boomers, probably. At least the Boomers came from generally intact families. Many Xers were the products of broken homes and absent dads. Many Xer girls (and some of the very early Millenials) entered the sexual market at a very early age.

    Millennials got stuck with preventive lawsuit measures (endless education on eating disorders, drug abuse, and the danger of (cheap/lousy street) guns.) With a draconian 1994 crime bill to keep us in line. (No white kid ever wanted to become the “Jr. Great White Defendant.”)

     

    Up through the early 90s, a lot of parents were remarkably hands off. During the mid 90s, you began to see parents take control over their kids. You also began to see teachers, cops, and judges give out harsh punishments to kids who broke the rules. It was an interesting cultural shift.

    You also started to see kids stay indoors more, watching tv or playing video games. 90s kids were the first indoor generation. They were the Nickelodeon Generation. After social media and smart phones became popular in 2008, this even more became the case.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos


    One of the interesting changes in the dating scene is documented in the book “Game” by Roosh V. (The book is hard to find, he found religion and removed these great books for encouraging sinful acts.)

    Roosh was part of the great “era of the playa” from the 1990s to 2010. For various reasons 2010 marked the end of that apparently wondrous time. It closely coincides with Sailer decrying 2013 as the “Great Awokening.” Suddenly, stuff that was the norm was grounds for extrajudicial expulsion. No trial, no evidence, no appeal. If a high status guy didn’t reply to your texts after a one-night-stand that was rape.

     

    Before the mid 90s, PUA (pick up artistry) didn't really exist. There was actually no need for PUA, as it was simple enough to meet women. At malls, restaurants, arcades, house parties, clubs, HS football games, etc. People were REALLY friendly and socially outgoing, and always down to hang out or party. Back then, parents had difficulty getting their kids to stay home and stay away from their friends.

    If you were good looking and a bit charming, getting a date was ridiculously easy. Other than very awkward and/or ugly men, most guys did reasonably well.

    During the mid 90s, people began to rapidly withdraw into their social cocoons. At that point, it became a lot harder to meet people or get dates. It was at that point that the first PUA site/forum (Alt.seduction.fast) was created online. The site/forum became pretty popular, as it was a reaction to the increasing difficulty of the dating market.

    As things became progressively more difficult, the PUA subculture became much more popular online. PUAs even began to meet up together in real life, to hang out, compare techniques, and chase women.

    In 2005, journalist Neil Strauss published a book called "The Game." The book detailed his experiences with the PUA community and expounded on their various seduction techniques. The book was so popular that Strauss sold around 3 million copies.

    It was this book that brought PUA to the mass market. After that, you saw an explosion in PUA activity. Various new sites/forums/blogs came online, often becoming quite popular. Many new PUA "intellectuals" emerged (Roosh, Roissy/Heartiste, Krauser, Paul Janka, etc). Many of these PUA figures made a lot of money by selling books, how-to manuals, and workshops. One especially popular PUA figure was "Mystery," who got his own show ("The Pickup Artist") on VHS in 2007.

    Mainstream media/entertainment paid a lot of attention to the PUA phenomenon. You saw PUAs on news and talk shows. PUA techniques were often discussed in music, sitcoms, and movies. Nelly Furtado's super popular song "Promiscuous" discussed "game." Will Smith's movie "Hitch" was about a PUA guru. "Parks and Recreation" had a comical main character who tried to use PUA, but in an awkward way. There are lots more examples of "game" being brought up by mass media/entertainment.

    PUA was very popular around 2005-2008, with 2007 really being the peak year.

    PUA was popular because it was a response to the increasingly difficult dating market. People were becoming much more anti-social and indoorish at the time, so PUA gave men a way to "open up" women (Insta-Dates, Kino escalation, etc) and get dates.

    For many men, these PUA techniques really did work. So lots of guys were implementing these techniques at clubs, bars, house parties, etc. Even on the street, some guys were doing this stuff, often with success.

    Over the last 10-12 years, there's been a huge collapse in the PUA community. A lot of techniques that worked back then don't work now, due to many reasons.

    People go out a lot less now (preferring to stay indoors with their smart phones, Netflix, DVDs, video games, ipods, ipads, and social media), so it's harder to try these techniques at parties. When people do go out, they're often glued to their phones and often find it weird to see a stranger approach them and try to "escalate." Lots of the casual dating scene has moved onto Tinder, which is not an environment conducive to PUA techniques.

    Even when people do date or have an opposite-sex friend, much of the "relationship" is carried on through texting and social media. That makes everything harder.

    During the last 5 years, there's been a huge push back against sexual harassment, which makes many PUA techniques (like kino and street approach) illegal. Many PUAs have been deplatformed and demonetized. Some have been prosecuted or banned from traveling to certain countries.

    The casual sex market has become far more difficult over the last 10-12 years, with the ROI (and legality) of PUA being quite low these days. So, as you would expect, there's no longer much interest in PUA.

    So lots of former PUAs have either left the scene (sometimes getting married) or moved into promoting Alt-Right conservatism. Roosh And Roissy/Heartiste are an example of the latter.

    There no longer is a niche for PUA experts.

    The rise and fall of PUA is an interesting social phenomenon.

    Replies: @Still

  144. Anonymous[825] • Disclaimer says:
    @prosa123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    If you want to be a leader of men, do the following. [My comments in bold]

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don’t need to be built like a tank. People won’t take you seriously if you’re fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.
    Mostly true, though an average build usually is okay. Being fat is definitely a HUGE negative.


    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don’t have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.
    Agreed 100%.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.
    Using complex words is helpful but not vital. If you use them, make sure you get the meaning right, e.g. don't say "parameters" when you mean "perimeters."

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.
    Proper fitting and clean clothes are important, but that's about all.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don’t have to be Barry White, but people it’s bit weird when someone’s voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.
    Agreed.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.
    Disagree. Hand gestures are pointless at best.

    7. Don’t act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.
    Agreed.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it’s nothing. Don’t get angry or moody (see above point).
    Telling (appropriate for the audience) jokes is fine, IF you can do so without coming off as a doofus. That's not easy.


    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don’t have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.
    And try to avoid showing excessive interest in nerdy things like sci-fi or D&D.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they’ll give you TREMENDOUS respect.
    Usually it's the other way around: men try to be popular with other men because it makes it much easier to nail women.

    11. Don’t apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.
    Agreed.

    12. If you’re losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.
    Completely wrong. Hair transplants look ridiculous. Being bald can be very cool.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123

    Completely wrong. Hair transplants look ridiculous. Being bald can be very cool.

    Hair transplants are actually very good these days. Much better than the ones they had in the 90s. They’re also very affordable now. Lots of middle class Americans and Europeans go to countries like Turkey for cheap but good hair transplants. The rate of baldness in Turkey and the Middle East is very high, so the doctors there get lots of practice. So you get quality at a very affordable price.

    The only annoying thing about hair transplants is that they’re not a permanent cure. You generally still have to be on a finasteride/Propecia and minoxidil/Rogaine to preserve the transplanted hair. Which isn’t a big deal, just popping a pill and rubbing some cream on your head everyday. Also you might need to get another one in the future.

  145. @Sean
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Being a leader is like being a KO punch boxer, they are born not made.
    Re your list some comments.
    1. Don't mastrubate. Or drink. Don't let yourself go, but working out oft times escalates until it causes nasty injuries. That makes you look stupid.
    2. Not necessary to be a great conversationalist in private interaction, but mastery of public speaking and the ability to elicit emotion in others is essential. Again, born not made.
    3. Trump never uses long words. He laconically alludes to things rather than being specific.
    4. Nothing to add.
    5. True but a bit overused nowadays.
    6. Trump had a perfectly synchronised double karate chop and now favours the 'playing the accordion' gesture. Not macho, but he is naturally butch.
    7. Can be overdone and leave you looking cold and unfeeling.
    8. Never seem to take yourself too seriously.
    9. Be willing to take very real risks, but develop expertise in the area you are taking them in beforehand.
    10. Being popular with women is why men want to be leaders in the first place.
    11. Don't do anything you are not willing to stand by and account for.
    12. Bald men are perceived as as unassertive. Probably because they are. Baldness was associated with being gay in a genetic study


    If you want loyalty you must give it to something beyond yourself, irrespective of the consequences, and in the knowledge the odds are against you.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123

    until it causes nasty injuries

    That’s why you need to work out with LIGHT weights and do high reps. It gives you a more defined and chiseled physique, but minimizes the odds of injury. Eat a lot of protein and sleep 7-8 hours a night. Also, after working out, take 2 days off. Taking a collagen supplement (and perhaps MSM too) can help with ligaments.

    Trump had a perfectly synchronised double karate chop

    The karate chop is a true alpha male gesture. Use it often.

    Not a huge fan of the accordion, as it seems wishy washy and weak.

    7. Can be overdone and leave you looking cold and unfeeling.

    That’s why you have to tell jokes… and smile a lot. Don’t forget to smile. Smirking occasionally isn’t a bad thing, but don’t overdo it because it can come across as obnoxious. A bit of emotion can be okay from time to time, but it shouldn’t be a regular thing.

    8. Never seem to take yourself too seriously.

    Agreed. 100%. If you can laugh at yourself, it helps put people at ease and makes you seem “cool.”

    9. Be willing to take very real risks, but develop expertise in the area you are taking them in beforehand.

    Agreed.

    12. Bald men are perceived as as unassertive. Probably because they are. Baldness was associated with being gay in a genetic study

    Bald men are unassertive, boring, and unattractive. Bald guys remind people of a married suburban guy who’s pudgy, whipped by his wife, and low-testosterone. He drives a station wagon and owns a time share in Oregon. He’s over the hill. Bald means safe and steady….. Though that’s not always a bad thing.

    A thick head of hair is proud. It’s virile. To women at least, it’s sexy. It’s a youthful breath of fresh air in a moribund organization. The guy is ready to take the reigns and take the organization to the next level.

  146. @RadicalCenter
    @Kronos

    Well said, Kronos. But don’t even use their nonsense word “gender.”

    There are two SEXES, period, and an extremely tiny percentage of unfortunate people who have a genetic defect causing hermaphroditism.

    Replies: @Kronos

    But don’t even use their nonsense word “gender.”

    Fair enough. Before this craziness gender was seen as a strict synonym for sex. I generally preferred using “gender” over “sex” because throughout K-12 education you’ll always receive a group snicker upon uttering the latter in a class setting.

  147. @dvorak
    @Kronos


    Especially in “A Man in Full” that chronicles the fictional life and personality of “Captain Charlie.” (Which I still haven’t finished yet.)
     
    You should finish it. It has a good ending that disappointed the NYT's Michiko Kakutani. She didn't get it because she's not a man.

    Replies: @Kronos

    I’ll eventually get back on track.

  148. @prosa123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    If you want to be a leader of men, do the following. [My comments in bold]

    1. Workout and develop a lean&athletic physique. Slightly muscular (like a swimmer or sprinter), but you don’t need to be built like a tank. People won’t take you seriously if you’re fat or weak looking. Fitness inspires people.
    Mostly true, though an average build usually is okay. Being fat is definitely a HUGE negative.


    2. Speak articulately and confidently. If your cadence is measured and you pronounce words clearly, people will take you more seriously. You don’t have to talk a lot, but try not to be quiet either. Moderate extroversion is ideal. Be pithy in your speech pattern too, as excessive verbiage can annoy people.
    Agreed 100%.

    3. Occasionally, pepper your speech with complex words. It makes you sound smart. However, try to keep the frequency low, as excessive usage can come across as pompous and can confuse people.
    Using complex words is helpful but not vital. If you use them, make sure you get the meaning right, e.g. don't say "parameters" when you mean "perimeters."

    4. Dress well. Make sure everything fits you well. Iron everything to keep it crisp. Match the colors. Be willing to spend a bit to keep your wardrobe new and classy looking. Dressing well can make you look authoritative.
    Proper fitting and clean clothes are important, but that's about all.

    5. Lower the pitch of your voice a bit and speak more slowly. You don’t have to be Barry White, but people it’s bit weird when someone’s voice is high-pitched or when they speak too quickly.
    Agreed.

    6. Use macho hand gestures, like a clenched fit or pointing. It looks cool and masculine.
    Disagree. Hand gestures are pointless at best.

    7. Don’t act emotional (nervous, sad, scared, angry, excited). Act like someone who has ice water flowing through his veins. It makes you seem calm and strong.
    Agreed.

    8. Tell jokes. Being funny helps put people at ease and makes you look alpha. If someone makes a joke about you, just laugh it off like it’s nothing. Don’t get angry or moody (see above point).
    Telling (appropriate for the audience) jokes is fine, IF you can do so without coming off as a doofus. That's not easy.


    9. Show a vague interest in manly activities, like sports, working out, boxing, cars, building stuff, etc. You don’t have to talk non-stop about these topics, but showing a bit of interest helps you seem masculine.
    And try to avoid showing excessive interest in nerdy things like sci-fi or D&D.

    10. Be popular with women. If other men see that women like you, they’ll give you TREMENDOUS respect.
    Usually it's the other way around: men try to be popular with other men because it makes it much easier to nail women.

    11. Don’t apologize or grovel in front of people. It looks weak.
    Agreed.

    12. If you’re losing hair, get a hair transplant. A full head of hair makes you look majestic. A young guy, up and coming. Bald people look sad and over the hill.
    Completely wrong. Hair transplants look ridiculous. Being bald can be very cool.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123

    Mostly true, though an average build usually is okay. Being fat is definitely a HUGE negative.

    Low body fat can make your face look chiseled. Especially if you have a strong jaw line, that’s really good.

    Proper fitting and clean clothes are important, but that’s about all.

    Fit is very important. You’d be surprised how many people screw that up.

    Disagree. Hand gestures are pointless at best.

    I disagree. From my experience, a lot of people don’t pay careful attention to words. For a lot of people, it’s not what you say. It’s how you say it. With alpha male hand gestures, people can be easily impressed. That type of stuff registers with people.

    IF you can do so without coming off as a doofus.

    Yeah, you don’t want to be a doofus. Practice the joke a few times beforehand with your relatives.

    And try to avoid showing excessive interest in nerdy things like sci-fi or D&D.

    Yes. D&D will torpedo you quickly.

    Completely wrong. Hair transplants look ridiculous. Being bald can be very cool.

    If you don’t want to do a transplant, then shave it all off . Partially bald (with the crown totally gone and hair on the sides&back) looks horrible.

    Also, make sure to have a low body fat percentage and be thin, as bald guys look much better with a chiseled look. Fat and bald (or super muscular and bald) looks BAD.

    Make sure not to have a weird head shape. If your head looks funny, being bald is definitely NOT advisable. Get the transplant.

  149. @Kronos
    @JohnnyWalker123


    When big house parties happen, cops are quick to issue EXPENSIVE citations.

     

    Yeah, they busted two parties I attended a few years ago. They gave this girl a $350 fine for hosting the party. A decent sized house party can get real quite if cops are at the front door. Most of the fun parties were performed at these mountainous wooden areas far away from potential noise complaint call-ins to the po-po.

    The debauchery is only a fraction of what it use to be in the past.
     
    I feel that’s a big dividing line between Generation X and Millennials. The various lawsuits, moral panics, and sad dead teenager/young adult stories from the former boxed in the latter into bubbles and safe spaces. (Keep in mind the college rape allegations in “The Man in Full” helped cause the racial frictions in the book. That book took place in 1998 and “I am Charolette Simmons” took place in 2002(?))

    https://youtu.be/InnwzzJa8ek

    Generation X was often ignored and forever demoted to latchkey kid status, but they possessed a cool amount of freedom. Millennials got stuck with preventive lawsuit measures (endless education on eating disorders, drug abuse, and the danger of (cheap/lousy street) guns.) With a draconian 1994 crime bill to keep us in line. (No white kid ever wanted to become the “Jr. Great White Defendant.”)

    https://youtu.be/RILdAz62Lyg

    One of the interesting changes in the dating scene is documented in the book “Game” by Roosh V. (The book is hard to find, he found religion and removed these great books for encouraging sinful acts.)

    http://masculinebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Game-by-Roosh-V.jpg

    Roosh was part of the great “era of the playa” from the 1990s to 2010. For various reasons 2010 marked the end of that apparently wondrous time. It closely coincides with Sailer decrying 2013 as the “Great Awokening.” Suddenly, stuff that was the norm was grounds for extrajudicial expulsion. No trial, no evidence, no appeal. If a high status guy didn’t reply to your texts after a one-night-stand that was rape.

    So you had cultural decadence 20 years ago, but now you have feminazi’s running all of college government.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @JohnnyWalker123

    Yeah, they busted two parties I attended a few years ago. They gave this girl a $350 fine for hosting the party. A decent sized house party can get real quite if cops are at the front door.

    Back 10-15 years ago, you could easily throw a wild house party in a frat house that was LITERALLY across the street from campus. People would spill out onto the street. Intoxicated people could walk around in public, without any issues. People could park almost anywhere.

    IF a cop did come (which often did not happen), he’d just give you a simple warning. No fine.

    Most of the fun parties were performed at these mountainous wooden areas far away from potential noise complaint call-ins to the po-po.

    A lot of parents don’t want to give out their homes these days. There was a time when a young kid could easily get his parents to hand over the keys for the cabin. These days parents do not want to assume the liability of letting their kid have an unsupervised party.

    I feel that’s a big dividing line between Generation X and Millennials. The various lawsuits, moral panics, and sad dead teenager/young adult stories from the former boxed in the latter into bubbles and safe spaces.

    Right. It’s less so the Millenials (who still engaged in some degree of debauchery) than the Generation Z crowd. They’re living in a much more unforgiving world.

    I think a lot of Generation Xers flamed out pretty hard from a combination of parental neglect, growing up too quickly, and wild partying. So the parental/authority figures tightened up a lot with the next 2 generations (Millenials and more especially Generation Z).

    Generation X was often ignored and forever demoted to latchkey kid status, but they possessed a cool amount of freedom.

    A ton of freedom. More than even the Boomers, probably. At least the Boomers came from generally intact families. Many Xers were the products of broken homes and absent dads. Many Xer girls (and some of the very early Millenials) entered the sexual market at a very early age.

    Millennials got stuck with preventive lawsuit measures (endless education on eating disorders, drug abuse, and the danger of (cheap/lousy street) guns.) With a draconian 1994 crime bill to keep us in line. (No white kid ever wanted to become the “Jr. Great White Defendant.”)

    Up through the early 90s, a lot of parents were remarkably hands off. During the mid 90s, you began to see parents take control over their kids. You also began to see teachers, cops, and judges give out harsh punishments to kids who broke the rules. It was an interesting cultural shift.

    You also started to see kids stay indoors more, watching tv or playing video games. 90s kids were the first indoor generation. They were the Nickelodeon Generation. After social media and smart phones became popular in 2008, this even more became the case.

  150. @Coemgen
    F in ROTC?

    Biden wants to be CIC?

    Will he, as did Obama, pronounce Navy Corpsman as if it were spelled Navy Corpseman?

    I wonder how DJT fared in ROTC?

    Aside: Does anyone else find themselves preoccupied with questions about the origins of SARS-COV2 (COVID-19, coronavirus, etc.)? It seems to be very convenient for the Democrats. Just the timeline, where “the media” was able to jump from one anti-Trump moral panic to another, is very disconcerting.

    Replies: @Jasper Been, @Polynikes, @e, @Sean

    Democratic narrative would be a Trump presidency as as an expression of America’s sickness, while SARS-COV2 is an external event. Traditionally, American patients are reassured by being told that “It’s probably just a virus”, because that indicates they are basically in good health.

  151. @Kronos
    @JohnnyWalker123


    When big house parties happen, cops are quick to issue EXPENSIVE citations.

     

    Yeah, they busted two parties I attended a few years ago. They gave this girl a $350 fine for hosting the party. A decent sized house party can get real quite if cops are at the front door. Most of the fun parties were performed at these mountainous wooden areas far away from potential noise complaint call-ins to the po-po.

    The debauchery is only a fraction of what it use to be in the past.
     
    I feel that’s a big dividing line between Generation X and Millennials. The various lawsuits, moral panics, and sad dead teenager/young adult stories from the former boxed in the latter into bubbles and safe spaces. (Keep in mind the college rape allegations in “The Man in Full” helped cause the racial frictions in the book. That book took place in 1998 and “I am Charolette Simmons” took place in 2002(?))

    https://youtu.be/InnwzzJa8ek

    Generation X was often ignored and forever demoted to latchkey kid status, but they possessed a cool amount of freedom. Millennials got stuck with preventive lawsuit measures (endless education on eating disorders, drug abuse, and the danger of (cheap/lousy street) guns.) With a draconian 1994 crime bill to keep us in line. (No white kid ever wanted to become the “Jr. Great White Defendant.”)

    https://youtu.be/RILdAz62Lyg

    One of the interesting changes in the dating scene is documented in the book “Game” by Roosh V. (The book is hard to find, he found religion and removed these great books for encouraging sinful acts.)

    http://masculinebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Game-by-Roosh-V.jpg

    Roosh was part of the great “era of the playa” from the 1990s to 2010. For various reasons 2010 marked the end of that apparently wondrous time. It closely coincides with Sailer decrying 2013 as the “Great Awokening.” Suddenly, stuff that was the norm was grounds for extrajudicial expulsion. No trial, no evidence, no appeal. If a high status guy didn’t reply to your texts after a one-night-stand that was rape.

    So you had cultural decadence 20 years ago, but now you have feminazi’s running all of college government.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @JohnnyWalker123

    One of the interesting changes in the dating scene is documented in the book “Game” by Roosh V. (The book is hard to find, he found religion and removed these great books for encouraging sinful acts.)

    Roosh was part of the great “era of the playa” from the 1990s to 2010. For various reasons 2010 marked the end of that apparently wondrous time. It closely coincides with Sailer decrying 2013 as the “Great Awokening.” Suddenly, stuff that was the norm was grounds for extrajudicial expulsion. No trial, no evidence, no appeal. If a high status guy didn’t reply to your texts after a one-night-stand that was rape.

    Before the mid 90s, PUA (pick up artistry) didn’t really exist. There was actually no need for PUA, as it was simple enough to meet women. At malls, restaurants, arcades, house parties, clubs, HS football games, etc. People were REALLY friendly and socially outgoing, and always down to hang out or party. Back then, parents had difficulty getting their kids to stay home and stay away from their friends.

    If you were good looking and a bit charming, getting a date was ridiculously easy. Other than very awkward and/or ugly men, most guys did reasonably well.

    During the mid 90s, people began to rapidly withdraw into their social cocoons. At that point, it became a lot harder to meet people or get dates. It was at that point that the first PUA site/forum (Alt.seduction.fast) was created online. The site/forum became pretty popular, as it was a reaction to the increasing difficulty of the dating market.

    As things became progressively more difficult, the PUA subculture became much more popular online. PUAs even began to meet up together in real life, to hang out, compare techniques, and chase women.

    In 2005, journalist Neil Strauss published a book called “The Game.” The book detailed his experiences with the PUA community and expounded on their various seduction techniques. The book was so popular that Strauss sold around 3 million copies.

    It was this book that brought PUA to the mass market. After that, you saw an explosion in PUA activity. Various new sites/forums/blogs came online, often becoming quite popular. Many new PUA “intellectuals” emerged (Roosh, Roissy/Heartiste, Krauser, Paul Janka, etc). Many of these PUA figures made a lot of money by selling books, how-to manuals, and workshops. One especially popular PUA figure was “Mystery,” who got his own show (“The Pickup Artist”) on VHS in 2007.

    Mainstream media/entertainment paid a lot of attention to the PUA phenomenon. You saw PUAs on news and talk shows. PUA techniques were often discussed in music, sitcoms, and movies. Nelly Furtado’s super popular song “Promiscuous” discussed “game.” Will Smith’s movie “Hitch” was about a PUA guru. “Parks and Recreation” had a comical main character who tried to use PUA, but in an awkward way. There are lots more examples of “game” being brought up by mass media/entertainment.

    PUA was very popular around 2005-2008, with 2007 really being the peak year.

    PUA was popular because it was a response to the increasingly difficult dating market. People were becoming much more anti-social and indoorish at the time, so PUA gave men a way to “open up” women (Insta-Dates, Kino escalation, etc) and get dates.

    For many men, these PUA techniques really did work. So lots of guys were implementing these techniques at clubs, bars, house parties, etc. Even on the street, some guys were doing this stuff, often with success.

    Over the last 10-12 years, there’s been a huge collapse in the PUA community. A lot of techniques that worked back then don’t work now, due to many reasons.

    People go out a lot less now (preferring to stay indoors with their smart phones, Netflix, DVDs, video games, ipods, ipads, and social media), so it’s harder to try these techniques at parties. When people do go out, they’re often glued to their phones and often find it weird to see a stranger approach them and try to “escalate.” Lots of the casual dating scene has moved onto Tinder, which is not an environment conducive to PUA techniques.

    Even when people do date or have an opposite-sex friend, much of the “relationship” is carried on through texting and social media. That makes everything harder.

    During the last 5 years, there’s been a huge push back against sexual harassment, which makes many PUA techniques (like kino and street approach) illegal. Many PUAs have been deplatformed and demonetized. Some have been prosecuted or banned from traveling to certain countries.

    The casual sex market has become far more difficult over the last 10-12 years, with the ROI (and legality) of PUA being quite low these days. So, as you would expect, there’s no longer much interest in PUA.

    So lots of former PUAs have either left the scene (sometimes getting married) or moved into promoting Alt-Right conservatism. Roosh And Roissy/Heartiste are an example of the latter.

    There no longer is a niche for PUA experts.

    The rise and fall of PUA is an interesting social phenomenon.

    • Replies: @Still
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Despite the shift of dating to online platforms lately, "game" theory is still valid, and "game" works; maybe not so much in the flashy ways that made it to the mainstream, but most of what Mystery wrote in his seminal book and most of what Heartiste wrote on his blog (on game, not on WN lol) can be used in any setting. My wife wouldn't know it, but I got her by applying textbook indirect game, and the outcome was 100% predicted by the theory.

    Reading game theory challenges many men's beliefs about the sexual marketplace and isn't always an easy read, because it might shatter your worldview (as it did mine). Of all my friends, only one took game seriously and it helped him a ton too. The rest were in denial, even when I showed them someone working a girl and telling them what would happen next because so and so. A small percentage of men are natural with women, intuitively knowing by their teen years how women behave and how to bed them; the rest of us have to learn it the hard way.
    Learning about game is like reading a war manual: you won't win every battle, but you'll have a leg up against the competition.

    And if the PUA industry fades into obscurity, all the better for the proponents of game: the fewer know about it, the easier it'll be to apply its techniques without raising red flags.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  152. @Servant of Gla'aki

    Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was born on November 20, 1942 …
     
    Wait...his middle name is Robinette?!?

    I can't believe I'm only learning that now.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Kolya Krassotkin

    It’s OK, it was his paternal grandmother’s surname.

  153. @Servant of Gla'aki

    Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was born on November 20, 1942 …
     
    Wait...his middle name is Robinette?!?

    I can't believe I'm only learning that now.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Kolya Krassotkin

    So the eight years of Barack Hussein Obama and Joseph Robinette Biden was, basically, “Black Man & Robinette” ?

    Poor Biden. Not even a full Robin. Just a Robinette.

  154. @Anonymous
    @Sean


    Re your list some comments.
    1. Don’t mastrubate. Or drink. Don’t let yourself go, but working out oft times escalates until it causes nasty injuries. That makes you look stupid.
     
    I don't know if you're joking here, but why do you say not to masturbate, and would that apply to abstinence from sex as well? After all, from a certain physiological viewpoint, the masturbation and sex acts are the same.

    It's well known that boxers have this folk wisdom thing about not having sex before a big fight, and I think avoiding masturbation is implied in this as well. Which would suggest that they're sort of seen as equivalent and avoiding both is important. But men are drawn to become leaders in large part in order to have sex. So abstinence would kind of defeat the whole purpose for many would be and actual leaders.

    I've heard some doctors say that this sort of folk wisdom about abstinence from sex and masturbation doesn't really work anyway, because it just ends up inducing the body to have nocturnal emissions.

    Replies: @Wrong, @GoRedWings!

    From a physiological standpoint, masturbation and sex are effectively the same –though there are mechanical differences.
    From a psychological standpoint, though, it’s night and day. Masturbation is passive, solitary, isolating, and disconnects arousal and orgasm from normal sex. Porn addiction is a real thing, and it’s been affecting many more men than it should, no matter what shills paid by the porn industry may tell you; there’s no definite evidence for that yet only because there aren’t any studies of large enough scale out there atm.

    Sex is a different thing: you have to actually engage the woman and dominate her in bed, despite what feminists are parroting today (while doing the opposite once they log out of wherever they spew their untruths).

  155. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Kronos


    One of the interesting changes in the dating scene is documented in the book “Game” by Roosh V. (The book is hard to find, he found religion and removed these great books for encouraging sinful acts.)

    Roosh was part of the great “era of the playa” from the 1990s to 2010. For various reasons 2010 marked the end of that apparently wondrous time. It closely coincides with Sailer decrying 2013 as the “Great Awokening.” Suddenly, stuff that was the norm was grounds for extrajudicial expulsion. No trial, no evidence, no appeal. If a high status guy didn’t reply to your texts after a one-night-stand that was rape.

     

    Before the mid 90s, PUA (pick up artistry) didn't really exist. There was actually no need for PUA, as it was simple enough to meet women. At malls, restaurants, arcades, house parties, clubs, HS football games, etc. People were REALLY friendly and socially outgoing, and always down to hang out or party. Back then, parents had difficulty getting their kids to stay home and stay away from their friends.

    If you were good looking and a bit charming, getting a date was ridiculously easy. Other than very awkward and/or ugly men, most guys did reasonably well.

    During the mid 90s, people began to rapidly withdraw into their social cocoons. At that point, it became a lot harder to meet people or get dates. It was at that point that the first PUA site/forum (Alt.seduction.fast) was created online. The site/forum became pretty popular, as it was a reaction to the increasing difficulty of the dating market.

    As things became progressively more difficult, the PUA subculture became much more popular online. PUAs even began to meet up together in real life, to hang out, compare techniques, and chase women.

    In 2005, journalist Neil Strauss published a book called "The Game." The book detailed his experiences with the PUA community and expounded on their various seduction techniques. The book was so popular that Strauss sold around 3 million copies.

    It was this book that brought PUA to the mass market. After that, you saw an explosion in PUA activity. Various new sites/forums/blogs came online, often becoming quite popular. Many new PUA "intellectuals" emerged (Roosh, Roissy/Heartiste, Krauser, Paul Janka, etc). Many of these PUA figures made a lot of money by selling books, how-to manuals, and workshops. One especially popular PUA figure was "Mystery," who got his own show ("The Pickup Artist") on VHS in 2007.

    Mainstream media/entertainment paid a lot of attention to the PUA phenomenon. You saw PUAs on news and talk shows. PUA techniques were often discussed in music, sitcoms, and movies. Nelly Furtado's super popular song "Promiscuous" discussed "game." Will Smith's movie "Hitch" was about a PUA guru. "Parks and Recreation" had a comical main character who tried to use PUA, but in an awkward way. There are lots more examples of "game" being brought up by mass media/entertainment.

    PUA was very popular around 2005-2008, with 2007 really being the peak year.

    PUA was popular because it was a response to the increasingly difficult dating market. People were becoming much more anti-social and indoorish at the time, so PUA gave men a way to "open up" women (Insta-Dates, Kino escalation, etc) and get dates.

    For many men, these PUA techniques really did work. So lots of guys were implementing these techniques at clubs, bars, house parties, etc. Even on the street, some guys were doing this stuff, often with success.

    Over the last 10-12 years, there's been a huge collapse in the PUA community. A lot of techniques that worked back then don't work now, due to many reasons.

    People go out a lot less now (preferring to stay indoors with their smart phones, Netflix, DVDs, video games, ipods, ipads, and social media), so it's harder to try these techniques at parties. When people do go out, they're often glued to their phones and often find it weird to see a stranger approach them and try to "escalate." Lots of the casual dating scene has moved onto Tinder, which is not an environment conducive to PUA techniques.

    Even when people do date or have an opposite-sex friend, much of the "relationship" is carried on through texting and social media. That makes everything harder.

    During the last 5 years, there's been a huge push back against sexual harassment, which makes many PUA techniques (like kino and street approach) illegal. Many PUAs have been deplatformed and demonetized. Some have been prosecuted or banned from traveling to certain countries.

    The casual sex market has become far more difficult over the last 10-12 years, with the ROI (and legality) of PUA being quite low these days. So, as you would expect, there's no longer much interest in PUA.

    So lots of former PUAs have either left the scene (sometimes getting married) or moved into promoting Alt-Right conservatism. Roosh And Roissy/Heartiste are an example of the latter.

    There no longer is a niche for PUA experts.

    The rise and fall of PUA is an interesting social phenomenon.

    Replies: @Still

    Despite the shift of dating to online platforms lately, “game” theory is still valid, and “game” works; maybe not so much in the flashy ways that made it to the mainstream, but most of what Mystery wrote in his seminal book and most of what Heartiste wrote on his blog (on game, not on WN lol) can be used in any setting. My wife wouldn’t know it, but I got her by applying textbook indirect game, and the outcome was 100% predicted by the theory.

    Reading game theory challenges many men’s beliefs about the sexual marketplace and isn’t always an easy read, because it might shatter your worldview (as it did mine). Of all my friends, only one took game seriously and it helped him a ton too. The rest were in denial, even when I showed them someone working a girl and telling them what would happen next because so and so. A small percentage of men are natural with women, intuitively knowing by their teen years how women behave and how to bed them; the rest of us have to learn it the hard way.
    Learning about game is like reading a war manual: you won’t win every battle, but you’ll have a leg up against the competition.

    And if the PUA industry fades into obscurity, all the better for the proponents of game: the fewer know about it, the easier it’ll be to apply its techniques without raising red flags.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Still

    I agree with a lot of what you're saying.

    I agree with you that taking the "Red Pill" is still important. It's still worth reading these sites. Regardless of whether you want to be monogamous or "play the field," it's important info to know.

    My point was that ROI is much lower now than in 2007. So you have to approach much more, deal with much more rejection, and be ready to defend yourself against accusations of harassment/assault.

    Back in 2007, many young men felt like they could juggle lots of girls. These days young men are demoralized and fearful, so they just want to "lock down" one girl. That's why interest in PUA has plummeted.

  156. @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Try dropping out of high school, getting some life experience on the road and in the woods, even working a job for part of that time and saving some money, and then starting college at age 21. Girls, girls, girls! A’s, A’s, A’s. (I mean the grades, but also the anatomy 🙂 )
     
    What sort of college did you go to? Simple curiosity.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  157. @Still
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Despite the shift of dating to online platforms lately, "game" theory is still valid, and "game" works; maybe not so much in the flashy ways that made it to the mainstream, but most of what Mystery wrote in his seminal book and most of what Heartiste wrote on his blog (on game, not on WN lol) can be used in any setting. My wife wouldn't know it, but I got her by applying textbook indirect game, and the outcome was 100% predicted by the theory.

    Reading game theory challenges many men's beliefs about the sexual marketplace and isn't always an easy read, because it might shatter your worldview (as it did mine). Of all my friends, only one took game seriously and it helped him a ton too. The rest were in denial, even when I showed them someone working a girl and telling them what would happen next because so and so. A small percentage of men are natural with women, intuitively knowing by their teen years how women behave and how to bed them; the rest of us have to learn it the hard way.
    Learning about game is like reading a war manual: you won't win every battle, but you'll have a leg up against the competition.

    And if the PUA industry fades into obscurity, all the better for the proponents of game: the fewer know about it, the easier it'll be to apply its techniques without raising red flags.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    I agree with a lot of what you’re saying.

    I agree with you that taking the “Red Pill” is still important. It’s still worth reading these sites. Regardless of whether you want to be monogamous or “play the field,” it’s important info to know.

    My point was that ROI is much lower now than in 2007. So you have to approach much more, deal with much more rejection, and be ready to defend yourself against accusations of harassment/assault.

    Back in 2007, many young men felt like they could juggle lots of girls. These days young men are demoralized and fearful, so they just want to “lock down” one girl. That’s why interest in PUA has plummeted.

  158. “Should You Redshirt Your Child?”

    Way late, but …

    — Redshirt your son, if appropriate given his development–size, IQ, personality.

    — Do not redshirt your daughter. You’re just burning a year of her fertility.

  159. @Anonymous
    @Sean


    Re your list some comments.
    1. Don’t mastrubate. Or drink. Don’t let yourself go, but working out oft times escalates until it causes nasty injuries. That makes you look stupid.
     
    I don't know if you're joking here, but why do you say not to masturbate, and would that apply to abstinence from sex as well? After all, from a certain physiological viewpoint, the masturbation and sex acts are the same.

    It's well known that boxers have this folk wisdom thing about not having sex before a big fight, and I think avoiding masturbation is implied in this as well. Which would suggest that they're sort of seen as equivalent and avoiding both is important. But men are drawn to become leaders in large part in order to have sex. So abstinence would kind of defeat the whole purpose for many would be and actual leaders.

    I've heard some doctors say that this sort of folk wisdom about abstinence from sex and masturbation doesn't really work anyway, because it just ends up inducing the body to have nocturnal emissions.

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    boxers have this folk wisdom thing about not having sex before a big fight

    In 2014, when they demolished Brazil 7:1 and beat Argentina to become World Champions, players of Germany’s equipe were encouraged by the coach to spend the night before games with their spouses, just like the victorious Dutch in 1976 (https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/Sex-vor-dem-Spiel-Ja-oder-nein-id30085812.html)
    Perhaps boxing requires a different… attitude? Which sport is more comparable to social interactions?

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