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There was a big change in political standards regarding ethics during the Watergate scandal of 1973-1974. Interestingly, the current President is one of only of two federal officeholders who were elected to Congress before Watergate.

The other is Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska), who lost in the 1972 election in which Joe Biden was first elected to the Senate, but then was elected to the House in a March 1973 special election after the missing incumbent was declared to have died in a 1972 plane crash in the Alaskan bush.

 
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  1. And nearly 50 years later, has there been that big of a change in ethics?

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Alfred Muscaria
  2. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:

    Considering the way he’s gone after Rudy Giuliani for the crime of knowing too much about the bribes that Biden’s worthless kid Hunter has taken, Delaware Nixon needs to be impeached and go to jail.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico, Cato
    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  3. Nixon is even now a better president.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Troll: Corvinus
  4. Anon[364] • Disclaimer says:

    Biden also graduated high school before the Second Vatican Council.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  5. Not really off topic:

    Steve

    Have you seen the photo of the US Navy’s first all gay male helicopter crew? The legacy of Admiral Mike Mullins…..

  6. Altai says:

    Biden also had the physical height to continue his career as Americans grew taller, few know this.

  7. Physically and legally out of office certainly doesn’t equate to out of power. The ghoul Kissinger and a gaggle of others seem especially influential. Rumsfeld and other Project For A New American Century types go way back. If anything, being out of politics amplifies power among the kakistocrats. It’s almost as if politics is the Godfather’s way of testing your abilities to run a branch of the family business.

    • Agree: Spect3r
  8. Funny how many plane accidents take out US politicians.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    , @HWR
  9. El Dato says:
    @Altai

    “Jiminy Carter”

    (Does anything know what he thinks of the current permanent clusterfugolution?)

    (Also OT: Russian Women in Checkers refuse to be erased by WADA goons and their Gestapo tricks! Flag-nificent victory: Checkers queen poses with Russian flag after overcoming tricolor fiasco in dramatic World Championship win: The Polish hosts apologized for the incendiary [on-camera Russian flag removal disgrace while the champions were playing] incident, while WADA bosses clamed that they had not insisted on the flag being removed while the sporting action was taking place.

  10. Am thoroughly convinced had a Democratic president been caught in a Watergate-type incident, no way in hell would s/he step down.

    Honor is an alien concept to Donkey sociopaths.

    To wit: Governor Blackface and Ahole Cuomo.

    • Replies: @Nico
  11. Anonymous[212] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    Here’s a rare color interview with Mark Felt, a.k.a Deepthroat (the Watergate informant) and Ray Cohn, from 1976:

  12. Interestingly, Pegge Begich, the widow of one of the two congressmen aboard that flight ( the other was Hale Boggs, the youngest member of the Warren Commission and likely to be the next Speaker of the House) married a man – Mike Pasley – who later claimed to have delivered a small bomb in a briefcase to be placed on the flight.

    Was Pasley truthful?

    I don’t know, but he did marry Pegge Begich only 17 months after her husband’s death, he was a violent guy and he was convicted of other murders.

    https://robinbarefield76.medium.com/the-mysterious-disappearance-of-cessna-n1812h-8e19dd5cb3ee

    Hmm.

    Lots of people did not want Hale Boggs as Speaker, and this mysterious crash happened only a few weeks before another bizarre crash, the infamous United 553 flight to Chicago on December 8, 1972 which killed Dorothy Hunt, E. Howard Hunt’s wife.

    I’ll let Johnny Walker 123 take it from there.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    , @Bubba
  13. Trinity says:
    @Altai

    Biden has also maintained his bald head despite a botched hair club for men attempt as American males tend to become balder throughout the years, few know this.

    Biden also has low testosterone as American males continue to have lower testosterone levels than their fathers and their fathers had lower test than their fathers, few know this.

    • LOL: Gary in Gramercy
  14. Bubba says:

    The old Soviet Union used to do similar propaganda tricks with photos in Pravda which were always unquestionably lapped up by Reuters, UPI or the AP.

    Reading the replies to that tweet is a Who’s Who of our ass-kissing, modern day Bolshevik glitterati. 🤮

  15. dearieme says:
    @Altai

    Thank you President and Mrs. Biden!

    Has she given up the Dr Biden nonsense or were the Carter people teasing her?

  16. @Altai

    Biden also had the physical height to continue his career as Americans grew taller, few know this.

    LOL. “Americans”–of course–have grown … shorter and wider.

    The visit is fitting. Biden’s the shortest president we’ve had in 40 years–since Jimmy Carter.

    By the way, what’s the deal. No mask theater, visiting the Carters. Is Biden trying to kill old Jimmy and Ros off?

  17. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    In fact “Americans” are growing shorter by importing meztizos and asiatics

    Also where the “inequality” arrived from.

    # mass immigration

  18. @Altai

    I’m jealous. I’ve always wanted a set of Jimmy and Rosalyn ventriloquist dummies.

  19. AndrewR says:
    @AnotherDad

    Yet Joe is still three times bigger than Rosalynn. I know she’s old but wow. She looks like she’s about 70 lbs. Biden looks like the epitome of youth and strength next to her. Someone on Twitter said this photo is distorted due to the lens. So why didn’t they put the Bidens in the middle? Very odd.

    And I’m very glad the tweet doesn’t refer to Jill as “Dr.”

    Apparently you have missed the CDC “guidance” that says masks are unnecessary if everyone in a space is vaccinated. Let’s see how long this lasts.

  20. There was a big change in political standards regarding ethics during the Watergate scandal of 1973-1974.

    I’d love to hear you elaborate on “political ethics” and the big change therein. I think there is a House Select Committee on Oxymoron Oversight that is working in this area. Eric Shagwell is the Chairman.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  21. Anon7 says:
    @Altai

    Better caption/title:

    The President and the First Lady Visit the Sackville-Bagginses

    • LOL: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @G. Poulin
  22. Wow. My woodpile is 99% smaller than it was in November. Did you know that there are only two logs from last year’s cut that have not yet been burned?

    I also have two bottles of Redneck Riviera downstairs. They are the only two bottles I have not drunk yet.

    All seriousness aside, this “Watergate” shit is one of the emblems of Steve’s and my post-boomer generation.

    Biden is a terrifying flashback.

  23. There was a big change in political standards regarding ethics during the Watergate scandal of 1973-1974.

    Of the two systems i prefer the former, where the politicians stole but didn’t wreck the nation.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Guest007
    , @Ganderson
  24. ATate says:
    @Altai

    Come-on you peanut farming hicks! It’s goddamn DOCTOR Jill Biden, ffs.

  25. Paul Rise says:
    @Altai

    Weird how this photo is taken by a painting of Jimmy and Rosalyn. I wonder why they took it there?

    Just kidding! No president has more photos and paintings of himself adorning his office than Carter. Its because he is one of the biggest egos to inhabit the Whitehouse, probably close to Trump himself.

    You probably could cram them all in a guest bathroom and a portrait of Jimmy would loom over them all.

  26. Stogumber says:

    There was a big change during the Watergate scandal w.r.t. public moralizing, “Political standards regarding ethics” – perhaps. Obviously the words and the appearances have changed very much – do we know a method to test how much the behaviour changed, too?

  27. Barnard says:
    @AnotherDad

    A follow up picture showed that Joe and Dr. Jill put their masks back on when they went outside. Wearing a mask even when it makes him look ludicrous is one of the few things it seems Joe can remember to do on his own.

  28. Cancel culture would have tainted politicians in any era, but biden draws a pass. Career politicians have done more to harm Americans than to improve the country. The trough is long and deep and always full. Term limits are a great idea, but the people that would be affected, career politicians, won’t go near that switch.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  29. Beckow says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Biden is a terrifying flashback.

    You will bow to the old…I believe Macron is also pre-diluvial (the wife, not the weirdo). That’s how the historical cycles end.

  30. AndrewR says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Trump would have won far more votes if he had shared that photo on Twitter. Even if it was 50 years ago, that photograph alone disqualifies Biden from being president. But he would still be president now because he was selected not elected.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @Dissident
  31. AndrewR says:
    @AnotherDad

    Yeah when you ask people why they hate Putin they very often bring up his alleged corruption and theft. And I don’t doubt that he has, in fact, enriched himself greatly at public expense. But he’s also vastly improved Russia and has not openly sought to destroy it, unlike our “leaders.”

    • Agree: Wade Hampton
    • Replies: @Wade Hampton
    , @Corvinus
  32. El Dato says:

    Meanwhile in Colorado: BLACK HAMMER

    ‘Jonestown 2.0, racism edition’: Radical anti-Semites crowdfund $65,000 for doomed city in Colorado mountains

    Note: For once, they really are “anti-semites” not “anti-anti-semites”. Took me a few seconds to parse. Also anti-white and communist, apparently.

    A band of “anticolonial” and racist activists have “liberated” land high in the Colorado mountains to build a utopian city for minorities. Commenters are expecting a rerun of the Jonestown cult, but with more anti-Semitism.

    Openly communist, overtly anti-white, and proudly anti-Semitic, the ‘Black Hammer’ organization isn’t afraid of a fight. The group’s Twitter account fires off hourly invectives against the “cave beast” white race it sees as “colonizers,” and against the Jewish people it accuses of funding the “pig departments and prison systems that mass incarcerate and kill us everyday.” Bizarrely, the group has taken a fix on Anne Frank, calling the Holocaust victim a “bleach demon,” whose death – to them – overshadowed the suffering of colonized people worldwide.

    Blacktopia: Not only in Liberia anymore.

    Black Hammer members have taken part in rallies and protests across the country, but the scant media reports on their activities don’t mention the racism and the apparently pathological fixation on Jews. Instead, they praise the “activist group” for holding vigils for coronavirus victims and handing out masks, food and clothing to their fellow people of color.

    If they secede and communistify, are they still eligible for reparations and Internet connections?

    • Replies: @Dissident
    , @Buffalo Joe
  33. sayless says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Steve Sailer is a boomer. Biden is greatest generation.

  34. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    I believe Biden is 1/2” taller than George W. Bush (63” taller than President Michael Dukakis).

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  35. Old Prude says:
    @Altai

    At first glance it looked like a photo of Joe and Jill with their ventriloquist dummies. Zooming in I see their hands. Just dummies, no puppets involved, except Joe.

  36. Abe says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Biden is a terrifying flashback.

    TRADITIONAL ENOUGH TO ADDRESS THE MOST COMPLEX TAX AND WEALTH MANAGEMENT SCENARIOS.

    PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH TO DISCUSS THEM WITH YOU AT PLATO’S RETREAT.

    WE ARE, BURISMA PARTNERS.

  37. @Buffalo Joe

    Term limits are a great idea, but the people that would be affected, career politicians, won’t go near that switch.

    A handful of states passed term limit laws in the late 80s, but SCOTUS struck them down 5-4 in the 90s, despite language in that pesky document known as the Constitution that leaves voting arrangements to the states. The decision would have been 5-4 the other way had not Ted Kennedy (D-Asswipe) prevented Robert Bork from joining SCOTUS. Hope you’re enjoying Hell, Ted!

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  38. Dan Hayes says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Joe’s portrait is a white version of Amos & Andy’s Calhoun The Lawyer!

  39. Interestingly, the current President is one of only of two federal officeholders who were elected to Congress before Watergate

    Alex, what is a non sequitur?

    • Disagree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  40. danand says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “My woodpile is 99% smaller than it was in November.”

    That’s unfortunate, wood’s become the new gold. Went to the local Home Depot yesterday to pick up a 4′ X 8′ sheet of plywood. The cheapest, thinnest, C-grade they had was $58! Guess it doesn’t grow on trees anymore.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  41. Mr. Anon says:

    We used to laugh at the Soviet Union for being a gerantocracy (cough, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer). We used to laugh at them for being a police state (cough, TSA, FBI).

    I guess it’s the rest of the World’s turn to laugh now.

    • Agree: Hibernian, Bubba
    • Replies: @Anon7
  42. Franz says:

    “Watergate” was just the fulfillment of the National Security State lock on US politics.

    After WWII, spooks and think tanks took over the job citizens had always done for themselves. The great Eisenhower-era image of “The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit” took over the will of millions of people who worked for a living.

    Watergate might only be public knowledge because Dick Nixon thought he was in charge of something, but, like Trump, was hated by the DC establishment and the spooks. The media circus surrounding the whole Watergate affair was the same freak show as the just-ended Trump circus.

    In both cases we were being taught who really ran the country. We really should know by now.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  43. Mr. Anon says:
    @Abe

    That picture almost invites a caption contest.

    “President Nixon reminds me of a guy I used to know by the name of Corn Pop. Now let me tell you about Corn Pop. He was a bad dude.”

    “I don’t want my sons to grow up in a racial jungle. They might end up smoking crack and cavorting with hookers.”

    “I’m not just the President of the Hair Club for Men. I’m also a client.”

  44. The other is Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska), who lost in the 1972 election in which Joe Biden was first elected to the Senate, but then was elected to the House in a March 1973 special election after the missing incumbent was declared to have died in a 1972 plane crash in the Alaskan bush.

    Speaking of Bush, and I’m not referring to negro Black hair – though I could be, there is an area of systemic white racism against negroes Blacks that is hiding in plain sight. It is a weighty issue.

    I speak of Gravity.

    Through the process of gene manipulation conducted in secret labs during the Confederacy, Blacks, especially esteemed negroes Black women are carrying a white man’s burden through no fault of their own. I’m referring to the gigatons of additional blubber that negroes Blacks such as Stacey Abrams must carry around their persons, caused of course by the same gene manipulation that renders negroes black’s IQ to fall from its normal state of 2 SD above the white average to 1 SD below.

    This extra poundage, though useful in a stabbing situation, mostly forces negroesBlacks to sweat more profusely as they endure oppressive white blah blah woof woof, yada yada yada, et al, ibid, and ect.

    The next big push will be for the enlightened Congress of negroes Blacks and other, lessor races, which do not exist, to repeal the law of gravity.

  45. Guest007 says:
    @AnotherDad

    I think the U.S. is better off without the clerical help who could not type or powerful Congressmen ending up drunk in the DC Tidal Basin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbur_Mills#Sex_scandal,_alcoholism,_and_retirement

  46. Former Senators James L Buckley and Bob Dole are still alive, and slightly younger than Strom Thurmond was at his retirement. Don’t write them off just yet. They’re both likely more coherent than Joe.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  47. @Altai

    This is a weird photo. It could be a wide lens sort of distortion, but then if you look at the edges of Biden’s jacket close up on the right side it looks a bit “shopped.” Aren’t they supposed to be wearing masks and keeping 6′ distance anyway? Quite possible they took pictures of the Bidens and Carters separately and brought them back together in post. I mean, Biden wears a mask on zoom calls but then takes a picture where he’s practically on top of Mrs. Carter? Another head scratcher from POTUS about something that doesn’t even matter.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @Old Prude
    , @Buffalo Joe
  48. @Buzz Mohawk

    I also have two bottles of Redneck Riviera downstairs. They are the only two bottles I have not drunk yet.

    Find the oxymoron:

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  49. @Abe

    What does it say when only your lower teeth are showing?

    The Danes make their th sounds with their lower teeth, but they don’t expose them.

  50. Prosa123 says:
    @AnotherDad

    I’m sure they’ve all been vaccinated.

    • Replies: @BB753
  51. @Reg Cæsar

    Wine is not brewed, it is only fermented.

    Brewing whether you are making beer or tea requires boiling water.

    Sometimes of wine can actually require boiling the mash first. For example if you wanted to make ginger wine, you could boil the ginger root to extract the juices before fermenting it to make the wine, but this is not done with grape juices used to make wine.

    So how is wine sterilized you might ask, if it is not even pasteurized? The alcohol makes it self-sterilizing.

  52. @danand

    LOL. That’s what happens when you buy firewood that way. I get ours dumped by the cord from a local farm. Then I stack it.

    However, I see your report on plywood as a meaningful indication of REAL inflation. Plywood, goddammit, is supposed to be a cheap building material.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    , @anon
  53. As part of the fossil record, Biden is evidence of the Darwinian devolution of American politicians from a primitive life form to an even more primitive life form over an eon of several decades of adaptive prevarication.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  54. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    There’s no “mash” involved in winemaking. The word is “must”.

  55. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    The Biden’s look so youthful in this photo compared to the Carters.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  56. @Altai

    It’s the lollipop guild.

  57. Muggles says:

    I’m sure most of the time Slo Joe thinks it is 1972.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @J.Ross
  58. SafeNow says:


    Joe is a baseball fan, and he knows the quote. Joe’s driving-force now is to emulate this. He’ll walk down the street, and people will say, “There goes Joe Biden, the greatest president who ever lived.”

    Oh that 1941 season. Williams. DiMaggio. This is the 80th anniversary. DiMaggio’s streak begins on May 15. I might commemorate it by OT-posting some of the excitement and close-call games.

  59. OT,but Melinda Gates is a man,baby!

  60. @Buzz Mohawk

    Plywood is a higher quality and far more expensive product than plain old wood lumber. It is seldom used in home construction, which leads me to believe that, like most people in the general public, you have confused it for oriented strand board (OSB), which is cheap. Most applications for plywood are luxury items like hifi speakers, airplanes, and high-end furniture (mid-century modern, bent ply, etc). You have probably never seen a piece of plywood in your entire life, like most people in the general public.

  61. J.Ross says:

    There was a change in political ethics standards. Before, Democrats could do anything they wanted as long as they didn’t cry in public, and Republicans were targeted by near-open conspiracies of the mass media and unelected bureaucracy for daring to favor peace over war and Americans over the global elite.
    Now, Democrats are allowed to cry in public.

  62. anon[347] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Plywood, goddammit, is supposed to be a cheap building material.

    That’s why OSB exists.

  63. • Thanks: Wade Hampton
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @El Dato
  64. Rob McX says:
    @Muggles

    He probably booby-traps the Oval Office when he leaves in the evening in case any of Nixon’s minions break in during the night.

  65. J.Ross says:
    @Muggles

    If anyone in our political satire media wasn’t a dead weight they would connect the extreme degeneracy of the criminal and self-destructive Biden clan to the work of Ralph Steadman and a certain other Hunter depicting extreme upper class degeneracy in 1972. Of course, smoking crack and getting a stripper pregnant is actually well beyond what they depicted; they wanted people to be horrified that Kentucky Derby attendees drank whiskey.

  66. J.Ross says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Disagree — this is a great meme-ready illustration of how colossally inappropriate it is that this usurper sleep at the White House, even if all he does there is sleep. Was no older Democrat available? Well, Dingell’s bell had just rung, so probably not.

    • Replies: @Alden
  67. @Abe

    “WE ARE BURISMA PARTNERS…”

    “The most interesting limited liability company — incorporated in both Delaware and Nevada, for an added layer of mystery and incomprehensibility — in the world.”

  68. northeast says:
    @Altai

    Jimmy Carter has size 22-inch shoes, lol?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  69. @AnotherDad

    Immigrants have gotten shorter and fatter.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  70. MEH 0910 says:
    @Altai

  71. anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    pre-Watergate, exactly. Watergate was when Congress got fed up and stopped taking shit from CIA (until Don Gregg went down to the committees and threatened martial law.) Watergate, for any stragglers who just fell off the turnip truck, was CIA’s bloodless coup against Nixon.

    Biden? The lifelong suckup never had the balls. He started out as Monsanto’s Agent Orange salesman, poisoning vets. You know he’s still a CIA bitch because they put his kid on the Burisma board with Cofer Black. Burisma, for FOB nubes, is a CIA bust-out.

    • Thanks: Bubba
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  72. BB753 says:
    @Prosa123

    Perhaps, but Carter and wife were likely vaccinated with the conventional, safer, inactivated virus vaccines like those developed by the Chinese Sinovac or Sinopharm companies. Dangerous, unsafe, ineffective “vaccines” like Pfizer, Moderna and the rest (AstraZeneca, Johnson &Johnson) are meant for us peasants, seres and plebs to be experimented on. Do you seriously believe our elites are shooting themselves in the arm with that shite? No chance!
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoronaVac

  73. MEH 0910 says:
    @Altai

  74. J.Ross says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Will no one think of all the hairstyle studies dissertations rotting unharvested in the minds of our intellectual elite?

  75. AceDeuce says:
    @The Alarmist

    The politician in question was Hale Boggs, House Majority leader, member of the Warren Commission, and an outspoken critic of J Edgar Hoover and the FBI.

    He never was found. Officially he has “disappeared”.

    He was the father of Cokie Roberts, and Tommy Boggs, who was arguably one of the most powerful lawyers and lobbyists in DC from the 1970s though the 2000s.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
  76. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    I can say rødgrød med fløde, their favorite trap for foreigners. But refuse to unless they feed me some first.

    Først skal du give mig noget:


  77. Altai says:
    @Frank McGar

    The picture is distorted, I was joking.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  78. @Altai

    That’s Joe and Jill with their ventriloquist dummies.

  79. Old Prude says:
    @Frank McGar

    Now that you mention it, it does look shopped. Joe is way to big and colorful and Ros is just the size of Howdy -doody. Also, what ninety-year old is going to let a couple of flakey socialites slobber all over them in the time of COVID? Fake News! Sad!

  80. Dissident says:
    @El Dato

    What percentage of your posts don’t consist almost entirely of links-to / excerpts from Russia Today (RT) articles? Are you at least remunerated for your efforts?

    • Replies: @El Dato
  81. Anon7 says:
    @Mr. Anon

    We also used to laugh at them about Pravda, state-sponsored media that told only one side of any story.

    Of course, the Russian people know that Pravda was not Truth – unlike the majority of Americans who read their media.

  82. HWR says:
    @The Alarmist

    Not really. Politicians are more likely to take chartered flights, chartered flights are more likely to crash, and pilots working for politicians are more likely to take unsafe risks rather than risk angering their powerful customer who doesn’t want to be told about weather delays. Same thing that killed Kobe.

    Alaska politicians seem especially prone to this. Lots of mileage to travel, lots of bad weather.

    • Agree: Jack D
  83. El Dato says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Nearly back at post-Clinton-bubble inflation levels.

    Good.

  84. @sayless

    Biden is part of the silent generation, his parents were part the greatest generation.

    They called them war babies at the time. Many famous entertainers were war babies , like John Lennon, Mick Jagger, Robert De Niro, Jack Nicholson , Harrison Ford, Bob Dylan, Faye Dunaway , Joan Baez , Jim Morrison, Paul Simon, Francis Ford Coppola, Joni Mitchell, Etc..

    • Thanks: sayless
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  85. Dissident says:
    @AndrewR

    that photograph alone disqualifies Biden from being president. But he would still be president now because he was selected not elected.

    Wait, does this mean that you do buy-into the “stolen election” canard? Or have I misread your comment?

    I had been under the impression that a redeeming quality of yours was that you did not buy into such fantastical, wishful-thinking narratives (ones that are often quite lucrative to those peddling them).

    NOTE:
    This is not to preclude or deny a broader, extra-legal argument against the legitimacy of the 2020 Presidential election. Namely the overwhelming partiality of the entire media-tech establishment in favor of one candidate and against the other. But the claim that voter fraud determined the results of said election simply does not withstand due scrutiny. It’s a rank embarrassment, actually. That, I am confident, would be evident to anyone who would objectively review and examine the evidence (or lack thereof, as the case largely is).

    • Agree: sayless
    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @anon
    , @sayless
  86. Rob McX says:
    @northeast

    I didn’t notice that until now. Either it’s lens distortion or Jimmy wears clown shoes around the house.

    • Replies: @northeast
    , @AceDeuce
  87. Hibernian says:
    @Anon

    Before it ended, anyway. Just as I started Catholic elementary school (then including Kindergarten) before it ended. I was in 3rd or 4th grade before the Mass was in English, which was after all the documents were proclaimed, plus a short adjustment period.

  88. Achilleus says:
    @AnotherDad

    LOL. “Americans”–of course–have grown … shorter and wider.

    The Guatemalans alone must have brought the average down an inch or two.

  89. Hibernian says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I’ll bet they just happened to find a crew that happened to bee all gay. Yea, right.

  90. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think officeholders means those not yet retired; although Buckley was a Federal Judge til an advanced age; not sure if he might still be on senior status.

  91. Alden says:

    OT. Chauvin’s attorney filed for a mistrial in 2 grounds
    1. Judge Cahill refused change of venue to a less bigoted county not under threat of riots.
    2 Juror Brandon Mitchell is a BLM activities went to DC for a rally photographer in a St Floyd shirt WCCO.com

    • Thanks: J.Ross
  92. northeast says:
    @Rob McX

    It’s been a good laugh looking at those SHOES!

  93. ‘Joe Biden Is One of the Last Two Pre-Watergate Politicians in Office’

    Aren’t fossils usually kept in museums?

    Somebody could write a thesis about decaying societies having conspicuously geriatric leaders: Petain and post-1940 France, Brezhnev and the dying USSR, ourselves and good ol’ Joe…

    • Replies: @Ralph L
  94. @El Dato

    El Dato, they didn’t need to “liberate” land high in the mountains to establish their utopia. All they needed to do was scrape together enough money for the down payment on a house in a nice neighborhood. Pretty soon they would be living among only their brethren but with streets, water and sewers. Don’t pay the mortgage to the Jewish bank and don’t pay the utilities. biden’s new America will cover their bills. Stay safe.

  95. @Altai

    That’s the brightest shade of blue I’ve seen in a suit worn by an American President. Or by most white-collar American men of Biden’s generation. Must be the lighting.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  96. @Frank McGar

    Frank, did he sniff Rosalynn’s hair.

  97. Alden says:
    @J.Ross

    There was Feinstein a two fer woman and a Jew. And at least White.

  98. @sayless

    They need to come up with a term for late baby boomers like Mr. Sailer (or me, for that matter)—people who were too young to have been at Woodstock, but were old enough to remember seeing most of the Sixties on TV.

  99. @Anonymous

    The Biden’s look so youthful in this photo compared to the Carters.

    The way Biden is kneeling also contributes to that impression. It’s unusual for a man of 78 to be flexible enough to be able to kneel with that assertive stance.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  100. @J.Ross

    Well, they actually didn’t just drink whiskey, they drank whiskey until they vomited on their own shoes. HST tells Steadman, I recall, to notice the vomit and piss stains on the white suits of the local grandees coming out of the men’s room at the Derby. I’m reminded of that when, in Barton Fink, discount Faulkner kneels on his handkerchief when vomiting in the men’s room.

    But yes, nice connection. I had to look up Robert Hunter Biden to see if it was possible he was named after HST but no, born in 1970, but close enough to see a kind of synchronicity. There was a kind of epic grandeur to HST’s attempt to “make a beast of himself” but Discount Hunter just seems desperate and squalid. He’s not even clever enough to invent a pseudonym like “Raoul Duke” for security.

  101. @PiltdownMan

    That’s the brightest shade of blue I’ve seen in a suit worn by an American President. Or by most white-collar American men of Biden’s generation. Must be the lighting.

    • LOL: PiltdownMan
  102. Wiki pegs this guy’s personal fortune at $9M; it doesn’t mention the wealth accumulated by his family.

    Yet another shnook who got rich off of being in Washington.

    [MORE]

    Without the scam known as unsolicited, mail-in votes, there’s no way this non-entity could have won anywhere’s near 270.

  103. …the missing incumbent was declared to have died in a 1972 plane crash in the Alaskan bush.

    Okay, two things…

    First of all, has anybody actually ever crunched the numbers to see first what proportion of air travellers are politicians and other VIPs, and then what proportion of air crash dead are the same? Seems like rather a lot of these fellows are dying in plane crashes…

    And second, regarding this particular fellow who died in a plane crash:

    Nicholas Joseph Begich Sr. (April 6, 1932 – disappeared October 16, 1972) was an American politician who served as a member of the United States House of Representatives from Alaska. He is presumed to have died in the crash of a light aircraft in Alaska in 1972; his body was never found.

    I think we may have found D.B. Cooper.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  104. @Paul Jolliffe

    “Dorothy Hunt, E. Howard Hunt’s wife.”

    St. John Hunt, son of Dorothy and Howard, published Dorothy (2015), a remembrance of his mother. Dorothy, like many of the CIA wives of the WW2 generation, was an agent. Her role in the Watergate affair was money courier, taking cash to the operatives involved in the CIA-engineered coup d’etat of Nixon. St. John believes the plane crash that killed his mother was a message to his father who was running the CIA side of the job. The Agency could’ve disposed of Dorothy in a less extravagant way and achieved the same result. The Agency has a history of taking out airliners through proxies like Alpha 66, the most radical of the Miami-based anti-Castro groups. It’s an interesting book but I’m not buying St. John’s theory.

  105. @HWR

    Alaska politicians seem especially prone to this. Lots of mileage to travel, lots of bad weather.

    Idaho politicians face different risks.

    • LOL: The Alarmist
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  106. AceDeuce says:
    @Rob McX

    “Jimmy wears clown shoes around the house.”

    He was always a clown from the ankles up, so why not go the full monty?

  107. @PiltdownMan

    It’s unusual for a man of 78 to be flexible enough to be able to kneel with that assertive stance.

    It’s called “claymation”.


  108. @PiltdownMan

    “seeing most of the Sixties on TV.”

    I saw a lot of the Sixties on Seventies TV. The Sixties was an incredibly dynamic decade, culturally and politically. The Seventies tends to be overshadowed by all that energy. The Seventies are underrated. Lots of unheralded style.

  109. anon[160] • Disclaimer says:

    Attorney Nelson seeks new trial for Chauvin.

    https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/derek-chauvin-defense-seeks-new-trial/89-ada3b281-ab4f-40be-a000-da46bf5a90be

    In the portion of the motion requesting a new trial, Nelson cites multiple alleged errors by the court and prosecutors that he claims “deprived the Defendant of a fair trial,” including:

    • Denial of a change of venue
    • Publicity surrounding the case
    • Failure to sequester the jury
    • Prosecutorial misconduct by allegedly disparaging the defense and failing to adequately prepare witnesses
    • The court’s failure to order testimony from Morries Hall, who was with George Floyd on the day of his death
    • Jury instructions that “failed to accurately reflect the law” on the murder charges
    • Allowing the state to “present cumulative evidence” on use of force
    • The court allowed the state to “lead witnesses on direct examination”
    • The court failed to order a record of “numerous sidebars that occurred during the trial”

    We’ll see just how badly the Minneapolis political establishment wants their pound of scapegoat flesh.

  110. @J.Ross

    I take you to be referring to “The Kentucky Derby is Decadent and Depraved,” the famous first piece of “Gonzo journalism”. In the more famous Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Dr. Gonzo is considerably more dangerous than that: dosing a teenager girl with acid and abandoning her, threatening a waitress with a knife, attacking a chambermaid. Arguably as bad or worse than Hunter. Hunter is the dark side of the new permissiveness, which HST was honest enough to include, even if no one wanted to pay attention.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @J.Ross
  111. @Franz

    “who really [runs] the country”

    The Obama/Jarrett/Holder cabal. The lives of Obama and Jarrett have always been intertwined with intelligence agencies. Holder came a bit later to the shadow world and after he radicalized the DOJ he spent his time outside of guvmint convincing corporate America to go Marxist. He’s a successful guy.

    • Agree: Franz
  112. anon[579] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dissident

    But the claim that voter fraud determined the results of said election simply does not withstand due scrutiny. It’s a rank embarrassment, actually. That, I am confident, would be evident to anyone who would objectively review and examine the evidence (or lack thereof, as the case largely is).

    Dude, just because you aren’t paying attention to current events in Maricopa County, Arizona and New Hampshire and other places it does not at all follow that nothing is happening.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  113. Achilleus says:
    @PiltdownMan

    They need to come up with a term for late baby boomers like Mr. Sailer (or me, for that matter)—people who were too young to have been at Woodstock, but were old enough to remember seeing most of the Sixties on TV.

    They did; “Generation Jones”.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones

    I’m a member, Class of ‘62.

    I always thought the Boomers were spread too thin to be a cohesive social group, with some being born at the same time others graduated high school.

    I think some late Boomers (Jonesers?) feel like they missed all the classic boomer moments as they we still in grade school when it all happened. For instance, by the time I was 10, The Beatles had already crashed and burned. Steve’s not that far ahead of me…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Reg Cæsar
  114. @Achilleus

    The notion of a Baby Boom generation is mostly business conceptualizing.

  115. @James J O'Meara

    The real life Dr. Gonzo died in Mexico in some Drug Deal Gone Wrong.

  116. J.Ross says:
    @anon

    Dissident is like a semi-troll but fundamentally friendly. When you become concerned with a new face, click their name amd read their archive. His act is pretty funny once you understand it. The only bad ones are very recent and pretty obvious.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  117. Watergate changed ethics?

    Basically, Watergate was the typical selective prosecution-and-hype case. Politicians spied on their opponents all the time, and still do. They recorded their enemies for blackmail, and still do. They lie about covert military actions, and still do.

    The Deep State just hated Nixon for some reason, so selectively prosecuted him for it all. I think his 72 landslide scared the Deep State a ton –dang populism!–, so they worked overtime to make an example of him: “Cross us, and we can take you out. We took down Nixon two years after he won 49 states!”

    Honestly, I think a lot of the dislike of Nixon was his plan to pullout of Vietnam and his follow through of it. This was the military-industrial complex combined with the covert commies loving Vietnam as a demoralization effort on the U.S public. Flash forward to Trump, and the same thing happened: he stopped the endless march to war and pulled out troops after promising to do so. FBI started their illegal spying on him to try to save their military-industrial cronies and to placate their commie handlers.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  118. J.Ross says:
    @James J O'Meara

    Oh come on, I don’t even see anything malicious there, all of us have done that or they have done it to themselves. Chambermaids as far as knifefighting is concerned are pretty much Fremen. Smoking crack is on another level. Getting a stripper pregnant is on another level.

  119. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Not as many politicians died in plane crashes as musicians.

    Plane crash deaths in Alaska are quite common: lots and lots of scenery and weather.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    , @Reg Cæsar
  120. @SunBakedSuburb

    Did William F. Buckley and his wife look after E. Howard Hunt’s kids after Dorothy Hunt’s death?

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  121. Bubba says:
    @Paul Jolliffe

    She was carrying $10,000 cash in a briefcase which was discovered in the crash debris.

    And Congressman George Collins also died. His wife Cardiss won the special election after his death with the full support of Mayor Daley’s political machine.

  122. Ralph L says:
    @Colin Wright

    Hindenburg and you know who.

  123. anon215 says:

    Joe Biden has a Jesus Starter jacket and he still owes George Washington a wooden nickel.

  124. Ralph L says:
    @Steve Sailer

    My dad’s best friend disappeared in ’92 with his BIL in southern Alaska. The pilot flying the same path behind them crashed on landing and died.

    The Establishment hated Nixon for being right about Alger Hiss.

  125. @Steve Sailer

    The notion of a Baby Boom generation is mostly business conceptualizing.

    In other words, market research. (Anybody here happen to be familiar with that business?)

    Ngrams tell the story. Boomer has military connotations and has been around since the 19th century. It peaked in WWI and WWII, then dropped and flatlined until about 1985, when it suddenly shot up.

    Baby Boomer and its case variations all show up in the early 1980s, then go crazy. They start to drop around Obama’s inauguration.

    In other words, while the so-called “boomers” were growing up, nobody was calling them that.

    Baby boom itself showed up for good in the early 1940s (the term had been used sporadically before) and grew steadily, but rocketed upward around 1970 and was often capitalized after 1980.

    Silent generation peaks in lower case ca. 1970, but explodes in upper case after 1990.

    Greatest generation, of course, starts with Brokaw’s guilt trip in the ’90s. The words were used together before that, but not necessarily in reference to the generation of people. It could have been hydroelectric power.

    Generation X first appears in the 1850s. What’s that about?

  126. AceDeuce says:
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Lennon’s middle name was originally “Winston”.

  127. @Steve Sailer

    Not as many politicians died in plane crashes as musicians.

    Musicians do more touring.

    Plane crash deaths in Alaska are quite common: lots and lots of scenery and weather.

    The marketing gurus Al Ries and Jack Trout wondered if airlines named after mountain ranges (Allegheny, Piedmont, Olympic) had some kind of death wish.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  128. @Achilleus

    They need to come up with a term for late baby boomers like Mr. Sailer (or me, for that matter)

    They did; “Generation Jones”.

    The real dividing line– do you remember any of these?

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Achilleus
  129. Ganderson says:
    @AnotherDad

    I have made this point many times- the old corruptocrats that ran America’s big cities didn’t mind you skimming off the top, or getting your idiot nephew on the city payroll, but damnit, the streets better get plowed and fixed; and the garbage picked up in your ward. Guys like Mayor Daley would kick your ass if it didn’t get done.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  130. @George

    The historicity of your claim is very weak. The whole point of the homo norming of the US Military is to homo norm American Society and to normalize pederasty…which I have no doubt you would approve of…degenerate. Admiral Mike Mullins knew exactly what he was doing.

  131. @Reg Cæsar

    The Senator should have heeded this all-too-prescient warning:

    Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo

    [Verse 1: Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson]
    You’re living in your own Private Idaho
    Living in your own Private Idaho
    Underground like a wild potato
    Don’t go on the patio
    Beware of the pool
    Blue bottomless pool
    It leads you straight right through the gate
    That opens on the pool

    [Chorus: Kate Pierson, Kate Pierson & Cindy Wilson, Fred Schneider]
    You’re living in your own Private Idaho
    You’re living in your own Private Idaho
    Keep off the path, beware of the gate (You
    R own Private Idaho)
    Watch out for signs that say “hidden driveways”
    (Your own Private Idaho)
    (Whoa, oh, whoa-oh…)
    Don’t let the chlorine in your eyes
    Blind you to the awful surprise
    That’s waitin’ for you at the bottom of the bottomless blue, blue
    Blue pool

    ‘[Verse 2: Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson]
    You’re living in your own Private Idaho
    Idaho
    You’re outta control, the rivers that roll
    You fell into the water and down to Idaho
    Get out of that state, get out of that state you’re in
    You better beware

    You’re living in your own Private Idaho
    You’re living in your own Private Idaho

    Keep off the patio (Your own Private Idaho)
    Keep off the path (Your own Private Idaho)
    The lawn may be green but you better not be seen
    Walkin’ through the gate that leads you down
    Down to a pool fraught with danger
    Is a pool full of strangers

    You’re living in your own Private Idaho
    Where do I go from here to a better state than this?
    Well, don’t be blind to the big surprise
    Swimming round and round like the deadly hand
    Of a radium clock at the bottom of the pool

    I-I-I-daho
    I-I-I-daho
    Woah oh oh woah oh oh woah oh oh
    Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
    Get out of that state
    Get out of that state
    You’re living in your own Private Idaho
    Livin’ in your own Private…Idaho

  132. El Dato says:
    @Dissident

    I wish. Just reading the news for you.

  133. El Dato says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Generation “Star Trek”?

  134. Nico says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Well, for one thing, the presstitutes would have been covering their butts. Woodward and Bernstein would have been among The President’s Men under Democratic rule. Bill Clinton was a peculiar case due to the transitional nature of the 1990s as well as the sensational account of his indiscretions.

  135. @Jonathan Mason

    So how is wine sterilized you might ask, if it is not even pasteurized? The alcohol makes it self-sterilizing.

    So wine has something in common with urine. Though in that case ammonia does the trick.

  136. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @HWR

    Reminds me of that airliner crash in Russia that killed the Polish PM and a bunch of other important Polish officials. The pilot wanted to divert because of bad weather but the PM didn’t want to look like a pussy in front of the Russians so ordered the pilot to land the plane regardless of danger. That must be the worst boss in the world.

  137. Pericles says:
    @Bubba

    We thus look back at a gentler, more innocent time when $10,000 was enough to bribe some low life to do scumbag stuff — knee caps, rape, car accident, seat a judge. RIP Dorothy.

    • Replies: @Bubba
  138. @Steve Sailer

    I think there is a certain amount of truth in the fact that during World War II a vast number of men were mobilized in military service and away from home, then came home horny as hell, and married the girl next door, and started a family.

    The parents of the baby boomers were the children of the survivors of World War I, in which far more men had died than in World War II, leaving a whole generation of spinsters who never married.

    One wonders whether there was also a baby boom after the American Civil War.

    The end of the baby boom coincides almost exactly with the invention of the birth control pill which was first marketed in the United States in 1960, and by 1964 the number of users had entered the millions.

    John F. Kennedy was the first US president who was Catholic, and his era seems to have marked the beginning of the end of strict adherence to Roman Catholic doctrine, which strictly forbade any form of birth control, or any sex for recreational purposes.

    The 60’s was also the decade in which many countries legalized abortion, and also a decade in which many abortions were performed even if they were not legal.

    The end of the baby boom also coincides with the start of the Vietnam war, so again a lot of young US men were conscripted and called into military service.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Jack D
    , @AnotherDad
  139. G. Poulin says:
    @Anon7

    “….for Jimmy’s eleventy-first birthday.”

  140. sayless says:
    @Dissident

    Ooph, meant “disagree”.

  141. Jack D says:
    @HWR

    Also, if you are talking about the past, commercial aviation has become a LOT safer in the last 50 years. There hasn’t been a crash of a large passenger jet in the US in 20 years.

  142. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Piedmont is a plateau, and not an especially rugged one, in contrast to the Allegheny and Cumberland plateaus. It is between the Atlantic Coastal Plain and the first Eastern foothills of the Appalachians.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  143. Hibernian says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    …in which far more men had died than in World War II…

    Not Americans in absolute numbers or even in proportion to population. If you consider the lower number of Americans in uniform and shorter time we were in WW1, it’s a different story.

    John F. Kennedy was the first US president who was Catholic, and his era seems to have marked the beginning of the end of strict adherence to Roman Catholic doctrine, which strictly forbade any form of birth control, or any sex for recreational purposes.

    Are you implying that Kennedy’s election was a cause of Catholics abandoning Catholic doctrine? His non-adherence to Catholic discipline was not as widely known at the time as it would later become.

  144. Neuday says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Have you seen the photo of the US Navy’s first all gay male helicopter crew? The legacy of Admiral Mike Mullins…..

    Now even the U.S. Military is a propaganda arm of the DNC. Oh well, at least my investments in the S&P500 are doing great!

  145. Achilleus says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Why does every guy obsessed with sports assume every other guy is obsessed with sports?

    I am vaguely aware of the major league baseball teams in your list that have moved; it’s hard not to be peripherally aware of sports because guys who like sports won’t shut up about it.

    There are probably a few things I find more boring than watching other people play baseball (and I’ve been to a half dozen major league games), but I don’t keep a rank order list of things I find boring so I’m not sure about that.

    Maybe the break line for late-Boomers/Generation Jones is that they care less about sports, or we’ve come up in the era of moving teams and players and see them all as mercenary circus performers.

    And now that every moron-to-midwit negro dribbler thinks it’s his place to share his insights on politics, race relations, and morality, sports is beyond boring, it’s annoying.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  146. @Anonymous

    I believe Biden is 1/2” taller than George W. Bush (63” taller than President Michael Dukakis).

    You are right. I was wrong.

    Weird, I’d just made that very observation a few days back, but here i thought Trump (no), Obama (no), Clinton (no), Bush (no), Reagan (maybe). Just skipped right over the odious W.

    Yeah recent presidents as far as i can determine/guess from pictures and listed info:

    LBJ
    Trump (slightly above)
    Clinton, GHW Bush (close)
    Obama (slightly below)
    Reagan, Ford, Biden (close)
    — 6 ft —
    W Bush, Nixon (guessing pretty close)
    Eisenhower
    Carter

    Obviously men shrink as they age–dramatically in the late elderly–so it’s never quite apples to apples even standing next to each other, and then there’s posture and “footwear”.

    All these guys save Carter are above average male height. And most significantly so. Height still conveys “authority” or “leadership”. Who do you want to follow into battle?

    If only they’d act like their job actually was to battle to protect America’s territory and people–to protect our nation.

  147. @HWR

    Politicians are more likely to take chartered flights, chartered flights are more likely to crash

    Whatever it takes.

  148. Neoconned says:
    @AceDeuce

    A local “iheartradio” station(a national radio company i think….) in my local market was peddling a conspiracy theory podcast about that dude getting assassinated.

    It actually sounded interesting…..i wanted to listen to it but i could never find it. Some modern day investigative reporter is claiming the plane was bombed…..i assume we’re talking about the same incident….

    I’m also assuming the CIA was involved….

  149. @Steve Sailer

    Steve :
    what do you think of the widely read 1991 Strauss and Howe’s Generations?

  150. @SunBakedSuburb

    I don’t know who brought United 553 down, but there far, far too many anomalies about that crash to dismiss anything out of hand.

    Maybe the CIA did it (or maybe some other sophisticated group) but the fact that the NTSB was screaming to know how and why the FBI had descended en masse on the crash site within minutes and had removed critical evidence ( the control tower tapes) without any jurisdiction should raise serious questions in any reasonable person’s mind.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  151. @Bubba

    Clearly Dorothy Hunt was headed to Chicago to pay someone a lot of money – quietly!
    $10,000 cash was serious money in 1972.

    As you probably know, Saint John Hunt hints at the theory that the altimeter reading on the flight was deliberately sabotaged by false signals from the ground, possibly from the Kedzie outer marker.
    The pilots clearly believed (wrongly)they were flying higher than they actually were, only to discover (to their horror!) once they finally broke through the very low clouds, that their unstoppable descent path had them way short of the runway.

    Terrorists in “Die Hard 2” used precisely this technique to bring down an airliner at the start of the movie.

    • Thanks: Bubba
    • Replies: @Bubba
  152. @Redneck farmer

    “And nearly 50 years later, has there been that big of a change in ethics?”

    The big change is that nothing is prosecuted now.

  153. @Jonathan Mason

    So how is wine sterilized you might ask, if it is not even pasteurized? The alcohol makes it self-sterilizing.

    It’s not sterile. Depending on the process used to make the wine you can find small amounts of residual yeasts and bacteria.

  154. Jack D says:
    @Hibernian

    It never pays to analyze jokes too closely.

    That being said, you’re right – the hills of the Piedmont (FOOT of the mountain) are maybe 1,000 ft. maximum (mostly lower) so they were never air crash magnets, even back in the bad old days. Then again, this is the altitude at which the Kobe Bryant crash occurred but that was a helicopter.

    Nowadays yo0u could name your airline after any mountain you want – there hasn’t been a deadly crash of a full sized (Boeing/Airbus) passenger jet flown by a mainline US airline for 20 years.

  155. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    All of the factors you cite are important but the main contributor to the end of the Baby Boom was that there was a very small generation born in the era 1930-1945 due to the Great Depression and the war and when that generation reached child bearing age there were not that many of them around to bear children (and the Baby Boomers were still too young – later there would be a Baby Boom Echo).

    JFK did not cause Catholics to stray from doctrine. Rather, his election was a sign that Catholics had joined the American mainstream and so their behaviors in matters of sex and childbearing also became more mainstream and less distinctive.

  156. @Jonathan Mason

    The parents of the baby boomers were the children of the survivors of World War I, in which far more men had died than in World War II, leaving a whole generation of spinsters who never married.

    Brain still in England, Mason?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  157. @AndrewR

    And as far as politicians enriching themselves, America’s “public servants” are no pikers either.

  158. @Achilleus

    Why does every guy obsessed with sports assume every other guy is obsessed with sports?

    It used to be that when your team was in first place late in the season– real first place– the whole city got excited, not just the baseball fans. The presence of the Dodgers kept Brooklyn’s identity alive for 60 years after it was swallowed up by its neighbor. Quite a few of our common idiomatic phrases come from baseball– three strikes, hardball, out of left field, squeeze play, ballpark figure, step up, throw a curve…

    There are probably a few things I find more boring than watching other people play baseball…

    Others say the same about chess. We don’t hold that against the game itself.

  159. @AnotherDad

    Brain still in England, Mason?

    The Great War was the worse of the two “world wars” to everyone but Americans. Cf. Anzac, Gallipoli, Winnie the Pooh, In Flanders Fields.

  160. @Jack D

    Rather, his election was a sign that Catholics had joined the American mainstream…

    The real sign of a Catholic having joined the mainstream would have been voting for, indeed campaigning for, Nixon. I remember standing in kneepants on our Italian neighbor’s lawn cheering for Goldwater. (This bothered my mom, but I’ve never regretted it.) I can easily imagine him giving the finger to JFK four years earlier.

    JFK did not cause Catholics to stray from doctrine.

    JFK’s personal dismissal of Catholic morality was kept well-hidden from the laïty. Biden’s is right out in front.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Bubba
  161. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    JFK’s personal dismissal of Catholic morality was kept well-hidden from the laïty. Biden’s is right out in front.

    Has Joe Biden ever been known to be a serial adulterer? Or even an adulterer at all?

    @Jonathan Mason:

    Roman Catholic doctrine, which strictly forbade any form of birth control, or any sex for recreational purposes.

    ANY form? Don’t they permit a rhythm method?

    And how are you defining “recreational”? A married couple is permitted coitus even if non-procreative.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    , @Hibernian
    , @Reg Cæsar
  162. Corvinus says:

    “Interestingly, the current President is one of only of two federal officeholders who were elected to Congress before Watergate.”

    Interestingly, there is an ongoing scandal on a grander scale than Watergate. A treasure trove of iSteve material there. Can’t help but NOTICE you patently avoid it, Mr. Sailer. Stay cagey!

    https://t.co/MmchuT5Gh8?amp=1

    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @MEH 0910
  163. Mike Tre says:
    @Anon

    “worthless kid Hunter ”

    Worthless? Name one person possessing more entertainment value at the current time.

    • LOL: Rob McX
  164. Corvinus says:
    @Wade Hampton

    Political ethics to iSteve means denigrate your opponent with narrative dripping aplomb while staying cagey about the machinations within your own ranks. The rule of law is a convenient catch phrase.

    Nothing new here. Both sides are well versed in this dance.

  165. Corvinus says:
    @anonymous

    Actually, Watergate was the conception of Nixon’s henchmen, with his endorsement.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  166. Feryl says:
    @anon

    It is precisely Biden’s life as a non-entity (including a lack of philandering or deviance*) that made him a perfect agent of the neo-liberal corporate sell-out agenda. He just shows up and does what his masters ask him to do. Of course Biden has lied his ass off plenty of times (but is there a politician who has ever been regularly honest?), which sunk his 1988 campaign but those lies weren’t serious enough to totally derail his career.

    *Biden is pretty handsy and likes to hover too much, but that’s probably more from his high extroversion than any sort of freakish deviance. Biden at the end of the day can only be blamed for going whichever way the wind is blowing. Its not helpful to make up non-sense about him going to orgies with Clinton and Epstein.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Pericles
  167. @Bubba

    And Congressman George Collins also died. His wife Cardiss won the special election after his death with the full support of Mayor Daley’s political machine.

    I remember the local free Chicago Reader newspaper which mentioned something along the line that “she was the dumbest lady in the US House.” Never heard any criticism of that because it was obviously true.

    • Replies: @Bubba
  168. Hibernian says:
    @anon

    Or even an adulterer at all?

    It’s been alleged, by Jill’s first husband, that Joe and Jill’s relationship began while Neilia Biden was still alive.

  169. Corvinus says:
    @Feryl

    Being a senator, a VP, and a president assuredly doesn’t qualify as a “non-entity”.

    “That made him a perfect agent of the neo-liberal corporate sell-out agenda.“

    You forgot Marxist and Zionist.

    “He just shows up and does what his masters ask him to do.”

    Well, that is your common trait with Biden.

  170. Bubba says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    JFK’s personal dismissal of Catholic morality was kept well-hidden from the laïty.

    Very true and useful idiots like talking head Chris Matthews still tried to hide it over 50 years later when Mimi Alford published her book in 2012.

  171. Bubba says:
    @Paul Jolliffe

    I’m not an aviation enthusiast (other than watching “Air Disasters” on the Smithsonian Channel), but that is really interesting and did not know that. Thanks!

  172. @anon

    Has Joe Biden ever been known to be a serial adulterer?

    JFK’s sins were personal, Biden’s are political. He can bring many more down with him.

    Jack was the infidel, Joe is the heretic. Heretics are far more dangerous, and are treated as such.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  173. Bubba says:
    @Pericles

    And expected to keep quiet too. Or else.

    RIP Dorothy.

  174. Pericles says:
    @Corvinus

    It’s an imitation of Johnny Walker except boring, fake and gay.

  175. Pericles says:
    @Feryl

    Sure, so many extroverts love to sniff their friends female children. It’s just how they are.

  176. MEH 0910 says:
    @Corvinus

  177. @Jack D

    I did not say that John F Kennedy caused people to abandon Catholic teaching on sex and birth control, just that his presidency occurred around the same time, implying that the election of a Catholic to the presidency no longer meant that Catholics were regarded as beyond the pale.

    There is an amusing episode in one of the Monty Python films that depicts the decades of virtual civil war between Protestant Northern Ireland and the Catholic Republic of Ireland as an argument over a man’s right to put a condom on his penis. (At that time the sale of condoms was still illegal in the Republic of Ireland.)

    By the time of Kennedy’s election Americans seem to have got over that kind of doctrinaire squabbling.

  178. Bubba says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Can you imagine the woke outrage if they tried to do that with any member of the Congressional Black Caucus today?

    The Chicago Reader would be the next Charlie Hebdo.

  179. @Steve Sailer

    After Dorothy’s plane went down Hunt confided to good friend Buckley that he felt his number was up; and that Nixon had no clue about the Watergate break-in. I can’t recall the rest of Buckley’s role; the book is in my LA storage unit.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  180. @Corvinus

    “Actually”

    You and Art Deco think alike. Do you have the Houseman pix?

  181. @Paul Jolliffe

    “far too many anomalies about that crash”

    Agreed. Though a car crash would’ve served the same purpose without the drama. Watergate was top-level and could’ve only been triggered by DCI Helms and his allies in JCS.

    “the FBI had descended en masse on the crash site within minutes and removed critical evidence”

    Yeah, the Miami Cubans did it. Which explains Hunt’s fear post-crash.

  182. Corvinus says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    JFK got shot because of his political sins. He was viewed by the CIA as a heretic for not supporting fully the Bay of Pigs invasion. You have no clue what you are talking about.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  183. Corvinus says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    The reality is that Nixon was in the know regarding Watergate. You’re just making up things now.

  184. @R.G. Camara

    The Deep State just hated Nixon for some reason

    One reason was that Nixon was an anti-commie early in his congressional career. He was a member of HUAC and pushed hard to out Alger Hiss as the commie he was. The left never forgave him.

  185. @Corvinus

    JFK got shot because of his political sins.

    Not by his fellow Catholics. Which was the topic.

    You have no clue what you are talking about.

    You have just shown that you have no clue what I am talking about. Your second life as Jared Spencer Richard Taylor is starting to tell.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  186. Corvinus says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Not by his fellow Catholics. Which was the topic.”

    To the contrary. There were Catholics in the CIA, no doubt who were ticked off at JFK’s decision in the Bay of Pigs, along with his thoughts on splintering the relationship between the CIA and the Military Industrial Complex.

    https://catholicherald.co.uk/why-catholics-thrive-in-the-cia/

    “Your second life as Jared Spencer/Richard Taylor is starting to tell.”

    Those are YOUR pro-white icons, not mine.

  187. Corvinus says:
    @AndrewR

    Putin is a crook. You do realize he is Deep State Russian style, right?

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