No offense Steve, but your beta male rage and insecurity is really showing with these by now multiple posts and tweets about this. You have some sort of chip on your shoulder because her doctorate outranks your MBA.

Bonus: "I'm hoping Dr. Jill becomes the surgeon general, his wife,” Whoopi Goldberg said on The View in March. “Joe Biden's wife. She would never do it but, yeah, she's a hell of a doctor. She's an amazing doctor” https://t.co/GSaiHId8h7

— Emily (Larsen) Brooks (@emilyelarsen) December 12, 2020

A doctorate in Education outranks an MBA? It doesn’t even outrank a BSBA.

O/T, but are we taking bets on NYC Episcopal cathedral shooter? Angry white deplorable or some kind of diversity critter?

You laugh now, but what ya gonna do when your appendix ruptures and you rush to the ER, only to find that your choices are Dr Jill or Dr Dabengwa with his degree from Lubumbashi U?

Nah. Steve is doing these posts because he thinks Jill Biden is hot.

Remember how many posts he did on Sarah Palin and “Tiger” babe Amy Chua?

Steve should do more posts on Kelly Loeffler.

Are these quotes real? What is the context. “We’ll be in the bar.” What does that have to do with someone’s bad heart?

Dr. Jill Biden wouldn’t last 1 week trying to teach in an “inner city” High School.

A degree to be reckoned with …Dr. Ruth Westheimer, Doctor of S E X Education.

“I want you to understand that this woman at the wheel is my attorney! She’s not just some dingbat I found on the Strip. Shit, look at her! She doesn’t look like you or me, right? That’s because she’s a foreigner. I think she’s probably Samoan. But it doesn’t matter, does it? Are you prejudiced?”

“Oh, hell no!” he blurted.

“I didn’t think so,” I said. “Because in spite of her race, this woman is extremely valuable to me.” I glanced over at my attorney, but her mind was somewhere else.

The more fake the degree, the more likely the degree holder will insist on being called doctor. I’ve seen it a million times.

“It’s DOCTOR Evil, I didn’t spend six years in Evil Medical School to be called “mister,” thankyouverymuch.” – Dr. Evil

In fairness to Jill Biden, she has often explained that the reason she insists on being called “Doctor” is to remind people that she is still teaching and intends to go on teaching while living in the White House. It isn’t as if she’s the sort of fool who imagines that people are more impressed with an academic credential than with the status of First Lady.

A few other commenters have mentioned that other famous Ed.D holder, William H. Cosby Jr. Ed.D.

In case anyone wants to defend the integrity of the Doctorate of Education as an academic credential, it should be pointed out that Dr. Cosby dropped out of high school, went on to drop out of college as an undergraduate, and only had honorary degrees prior to being admitted to UMass Amherst’s graduate education program. The whole thing is a sick joke and the fact that Dr. Jill Biden is insisting she be called doctor speaks volumes about her character and ego. Just look at what we now know about Dr. Cosby….

Not that the current Ph.D system is much better. Anyone with the brains to get one ought to know better.

The particular fixation of the “Doctor” title for Ph.D holder seems to be among boomers, just in my professional experience. Particularly among women.

I’m working on my doctoral defense in China and my dissertation advisor, a early-40s white academic from Australia has never insisted on me referring to him as “Dr. X” in any professional or personal context. I guess you could say it’s because we’re members of a small pool of “like” people here in Zhongguo, but I think this is just because Gen Xers have a more adult view of the world than their parents’ generation and are less obsessed with the particularities of status.

When I do my consultation work for the American university, it is all extremely formalized, particularly when dealing with administration, who insist on the terminology. Unsurprisingly, they are all 60+ — or at least look to be.

I have two diplomas that I received previously: BS in Computer Science & MA in linguistics. My Ph.D will be in linguistics, but I won’t insist on the title — I’ve grown quite attached to my students calling me “(First Name) Laoshu”, which is an endearment title that the Chinese use to refer to their teachers. It is when they don’t use your first name that you know you’re being dragged.

The linguistics types were generally more fastidious about credential acknowledgement than the compsci types, but I think this is because many in my specific arena double-dipped into neuroscience and speech pathology as well.

Either way, Ph.Ds are only earned by roughly 2% of the population. Credentialing in general isn’t a sign of intelligence as much as it’s a sign of you being able to meet expectations. The primary reason I distrust people without university diplomas is that it’s clear that they don’t value the same things I do. This explains more of the 2020 red/blue split than any of the race ideology stuff.

White educated voters left the party that was becoming the party of white non-educateds.

Somewhat OT, that house whose residents got evicted for not paying their home loan, which eviction provoked the latest Portland armed insurrection? As seems always to be the case, there’s a little bit more to the story, and as always, it takes a while to come out.

The Oregon family whose eviction sparked Portland’s armed “autonomous zone” protest also own another house nearby — and have raised $30,000 more than they need to buy back the one they lost, according to reports.

The Kinney family, who lost the so-called “Red House on Mississippi” after defaulting on a second mortgage to pay legal fees in a criminal case, have since 1966 also owned a second home less than 2 miles away, Oregon Public Broadcasting first reported.

One of the owners’ sons, Michael Kinney, answered the door at the second home and confirmed to a reporter for OPB that it was owned by his family, but refused to answer more questions, the station said.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/13/family-whose-eviction-sparked-protests-owns-second-home-report/

https://nypost.com/2020/12/10/portland-protesters-fighting-gentrification-take-over-streets/

You’re being a dick about this. It’s unbecoming of you.

How many college degrees does Melania Trump have? And Marla Maples?

How many degrees did George Washington have?

He also has done a bunch of posts on Elizabeth Warren.

Come on man.

I hope you enjoy the new, for lack of a better term, faggot-ass commentariat you’ve cultivated.

I think the HST references are funny, so keep it up Steve.

And they are a reminder of what a whiny, thin skinned culture we have become. Naturally there are all kind of calls for the WSJ writer about Dr. Biden’s title to be fired. Mostly because he referred to her as “kiddo.”

Compare that to the way HST described politicians and public figures.

In the USA PhDs who insist on using the title Doctor are boorishly violating the nation’s etiquette and exposing themselves as pompous asses. I have a Ph.D. and throughout my life have gently corrected individuals, usually my students, who’ve made the mistake of addressing me as Doctor. It’s a matter of confidence and social grace. Jill Biden, our wannabe Edith Wilson, clearly lacks both.

How many college degrees does Melania Trump have? And Marla Maples?

I don’t recall either of them insisting on being called “Doctor”, but I’m sure you have evidence handy.

PS: Congrats to that other anon for the Unz Quadfecta!

Only insecure failed academics demand to be called by their titles. None of the real doctors I know even care if you call them doctor. Probably because they’re all too busy doing actual work.

Who cares?

It’s the fact that she’s one of those snotty types who insist on her title no matter what. It’s unseemly and points to a deep insecurity about her actual intellectual capacity. Like that guy in The Office who used to always bring up the fact that he went to Cornell, who needed to do it to make himself feel superior to all the other drones.

I’ve known people like that—always announcing their title or their college—and they are always insufferable, insecure folk with no real accomplishments outside their degree or college. Merely calling them “Mr.” or “Ms.” instead of by their title, or mistaking which college they went to, was a quick way to ruin their day.

I never cared about Melania or Marla’s degrees, and neither did the President. They were just hot chicks with the good sense to cozy up to him.

That’s far and away the most stunning photo of Loeffler, she often looks more reassuringly dorky. So a stunning photo, yes, but not entirely flattering. The escalators are an interesting touch, they’ve always given me the creeps since watching that great conspiracy flick The Parallax View.

But more to the point, so I google her and sure enough the new news story on her is the media pressuring her to “disavow” some quick photo-op or something with a “white supremacist.” It’s just the same old stuff again and again and again

Your comment on an earlier thread that 95% of EdDs are public education employees bucking for a raise: you nailed it exactly. At any state university, enrollment in graduate education courses is almost entirely dependent on local public education authorities funding college courses for their employees.

I’ll add one anecdote. I had an intelligent but vain graduate student, who could not accept that he was not the top student in our program. He dropped out and enrolled instead in a nearby university’s top-20 EdD program. Before he left, I heard him tell a fellow student that the EdD program amounted to nothing more than “serving seat time.” I laughed to myself, but that student had the last laugh: within four years he had his doctorate and was hired by my university for a high administrative position, at twice my salary, and proceeded to use his position to annoy everyone in my department.

It is pretentious and boorish behavior by our alleged next First Lady he is pointing out. The other women you mentioned did not use a pretend advanced degree as a putative PhD or MD for those who didn’t know better, and the only real complaint generated against Trump was his boorish behavior over the decades. Now TPTB want to foist a decrepit and corrupt mediocrity led by his boorish wife on us and it goes without remark by our MSM which launched a four year moral panic for every Trump joke or disparaging tweet.

Yes, all of us rightly envy an Ed.D. Only the hardest working people with an IQ over 125 have any shot whatsoever at earning an Ed.D. And Ed.Ds are known for anything but being simplistic ideologues spouting cliches.

The point of elevating the societal status of medical doctors is that you need to trust them to do something painful and dangerous to you, like cut you open in surgery or prescribe chemo drugs that have horrible effects. For other disciplines the point is to judge the argument itself. Weighting that correctness by the title of advocate is a bad process, which is why society deemphasizes it. The need for status elevation is a sign of weakness of speaker and arguments.

Last time I checked, Melania Trump doesn’t demand to be addressed by any honorific.

And I’m pretty sure no one knows or cares who Marla Maples is.

I’m not sure what the joke was, but it’s pretty funny.

Maybe I need to watch more television.

Are these from the Babylon Bee or the Onion?

Doctor of Education = Doctor of Gobbledygook
DGob

Methinks the WSJ writer thinks Jill Biden is hot. Those photos of Jill in her younger days aren’t that bad.

It’s a male thing. When you can’t date her, insult her.

The WSJ writer only has a bachelors degree n probably resents Jill Biden for her multiple higher degrees.

So instead of crawling after Melania Trump and sniffing desperately at her heels, he now pathetically trolls Jill Biden. I can sense his MAGA tears, flowing like a river.

I believe Joe was heard referring to Jill as a doctor of love.

I agree. I have earned four university degrees, but no doctorate. (No, my Juris Doctor degree is not a doctorate; it is just a professional degree, rebranded from the traditional Bachelor of Laws degree.) Anyone who has earned a bona fide doctorate, in whichever academic discipline– as opposed to having paid for a “doctorate” from a “diploma mill”– is entitled to call herself “Doctor [Whomever]”; no one else is required to call her by her preferred title, of course. To make a big deal about her doing so is quite petty and unseemly, in my opinion.

The issue isn’t that she wants to be called Doctor (which is ridiculous, but could be indulged), but that the media insists upon it as if it is an esteemed title.

Forgive me if someone else has touched on this but it’s all reminiscent of “Senator” Barbara Boxer getting all huffy when that one hearing witness, a military guy if I recall, very politely called her “Ms. Boxer”

BTW I’m just now reading how this WSJ op-ed author is getting tarred and feathered for poking some gentle fun at “Dr. Jill.” I guess her eminence will be strictly off-limits except for the usual media fawning that Melania never got to enjoy.

I agree.

But to keep it simple and direct, I think we should just start referring to Mrs Biden as ‘Dr J’.

I can’t see any problems or complications arising from that.

Melania Trump has been subjected to open racial prejudice by the media.

Dr. Jill Biden can take her lumps for having a fake degree and a fake title.

Unless she’s called upon to make the 3.

Every time I read a story about some political decision made by a failing (of course), public school district, I search to find out more about the superintendent.

Are there any, public school district supers who don’t hold a EdD?

The Superintendent of Falls Church SD (that’s the one dropping TJ’s name from one of its schools), Dr. Noonan, makes $225K/yr. Great SJW.

Dr. Jackson, Chicago, makes $260K.
Carranza, NYC, is completing his doctorate. $345K. They’re not the highest paid superintendents in their (dis-)respective states, by the way.

Hi Steve,

Who is this Dr Jill woman?

Do I know her?

Steve, now it’s mentioned, there is a woman who whispers in my ear jogging my memory what to say (‘I absolutely deny I know this Hunter kid’) or what to do (‘stop groping the breast of that little girl!)

Do you know who she is?

If she is a doctor, is she like that black guy with the epidural pen who was always by Hillary’s side on the campaign trail, now and again giving her a jab whenever her brain seized up?

(Speaking of which, do you have an EpiPen handy?)

Yours,

Joe (yes, that’s my name. That Dr Jill woman just whispered it into my ear.)

So basically, you’re female and she’s female so you’re automatically going to defend her. Just call it what it is.

How many college degrees does Melania Trump have? And Marla Maples?

Those people don’t demand to be addressed as Doctor so it’s irrelevant to the conversation. And you know that it’s irrelevant so that makes your pathetic attempt at logic also dishonest.

Why do so many people like this post here? I thought this blog was supposed to be for intelligent people?

I think the fact the she will be, in effect, an illegitimate First Lady– which is to say, the legitimate wife of an illegitimately elected and inaugurated president– is more important than whether her asserted professional title of “Doctor” ought to be considered to be illegitimate, or unseemly. Regardless, she will be referred to– come the afternoon of January 20, 2021, and ever after– as “First Lady Jill Biden,” not as “Doctor Jill Biden.” So, her now-preferred professional title will essentially become a moot point, in very short order.

Dear Steve,

Enjoy your mockery of my title and poking fun at my doctorate while you can…

Vengeance Day (sorry, I mean Inauguration Day) isn’t so far away….

Let’s just see you mock my title (President Edith Wilson) and my doctorate (Doctor of Re-Education) then!

It’d be such a shame my dear Stevie if you wound up in the Alaskan gulag, joining that little brown slut who stupidly thinks there’s just one more man to sleep with between her and the Oval Office…

Dr J

The entire Biden clan should be fed slowly to crocodiles.

You have some sort of chip on your shoulder because her doctorate outranks your MBA.

No way. Even a middle-tier MBA program like Anderson outranks an education Ph.D. But the question remains: Why didn’t Steve go to Stanford? Steve, what was your GMAT score?

Mrs. Biden is the epitome of you can never be too thin. 20 years ago she would be seen jogging throughout Wilmington and the amazing thing about it would be that one would see her about an hour or two later still running. She looked emaciated and almost sickly.

Yet she looks great in her various outfits buts she appeared anorexic and weird in her running attire. Too much of a good thing.

Kamala will have a significant adversary in her attempts to take over. My money is on Jill.

“I decided it was time for agonizing reappraisal of the situation.”

“You’re fired.”

Are you aware that the great doctor was having an affair and was with Joe when his wife was in the car accident? She probably needs to be called doctor to avert discussion of her immoral behavior.

ALL OF MY THIS. But orcas. Orcas play with their food.

I assume you mean Falls Church, VA. That seems almost low for big city superintendents. Being a principal at any school outside a small town is now a $100k plus job. But let’s hear it for our underpaid educators.

U mad, bro?

Before he left, I heard him tell a fellow student that the EdD program amounted to nothing more than “serving seat time.” I laughed to myself, but that student had the last laugh: within four years he had his doctorate and was hired by my university for a high administrative position, at twice my salary, and proceeded to use his position to annoy everyone in my department.

My ancestors helped build America into such a ridiculous prosperous place, that we can afford to have millions of generously paid people (i.e. parasites) doing absolutely nothing remotely productive.

Not convinced that’s going to continue indefinitely … but with AI/robots, maybe.

Fun fact: Cosby used his work on The Electric Company as credit towards his education degree.

He called her “Ma’am,” and she lectured him about it. No one misses her.

Probably found Joe cheating on her as he regularly did, and instead of being a “strong independent womyn” and leaving him, cowed before him when he told her she was fat and went running to try to win him back.

How do I know this? Because this is exactly what they accuse righties of doing. So its projection.

Pretty sure these quotes are lifted (with generous Biden parody added) from HST’s Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Somewhere, Uncle Duke is smiling.

Marla Maples was the president’s second wife and the mother of his daughter Tiffany, the ugly one who’s a lawyer.

“Can’t I touch your hair just once?”

“You stay away from me, Joe, or I’ll smack you!”
.

I think that he replied to my asking that question, a few years ago, by saying that he had scored a 760 on the G.M.A.T.!?! (Sorry, but I am too lazy to go hunting for those old comments in my history!) For the record, I took it on Saturday, October 25, 1980, at Purdue, where I already was in graduate school, in Psychology. I only scored a 700. (Excuses available upon request!) Nonetheless, and to my surprise, even that score had put me at the 99th percentile!

Zero use for the scummy traitor Biden. And Jill’s “call me Doctor” bit is pathetic.

But i do appreciate the fightin’ Jill.

Women have a natural nose for/attraction to status. The evolutionary purpose is for them to figure out who is the highest status “fittest” male they can land and mate with him. (A woman mating with a loser is … bad.)

In our disordered modern world, a lot of women are trying to pursue status for themselves, through their career (more more hilariously playing college football). Then they are confused when it doesn’t result in men–the men they want–swooning over them.

The deal is men just don’t care about a woman’s status. Basically they want sex with a reproductively fit woman. And in a wife, they further want pleasant company, good genes, signs she’s be a good mother and good character–especially loyalty. Of course, what a woman is doing, may indicate some of those characteristics. (AnotherMom’s academic work was certainly a signal of intelligence, drive, persistence and middle class values i valued.) But we really don’t care about a woman’s status, per se.

Jill Biden’ knows her status flows from her husband–whom she’s invested her life in. She had a chance to be #1 wife in the status hierarchy. And she wasn’t about to let some vegan freaks diminish or embarrass the man her status flows from. She’ll get in there and put the whoop ass on ’em if necessary.

Loyal wife–good for her.

If you’re not mad, by this point, youngster, you’re really not paying close enough attention.

In the words of Neil Young: “Wake up, Seattle! Wake up, America!”

lol. You and your 4 degrees can get all wee-wee’d up about Jilly B. not getting her Highness’s proper title somewhere else.

Your pettiness is showing.

The primary reason I distrust people without university diplomas is that it’s clear that they don’t value the same things I do.

This is a great way of putting it. Some people may be too smart and independent to graduate college, but generally speaking if you can’t get it together enough to sit down and learn for four years, you are probably an unbearable asshole.

This is the main reason I won’t join the Republican party, no matter how sympathetic I am toward their platform. The dumbest white people I know, the ones I can’t stand to be around for more than 30 seconds, are ALL Republican and they ALL voted for Trump. I don’t admit to voting for Trump in public because I don’t want to be associated with these cretins. I look at a Trump rally and I see a land that evolution forgot.

Nice! I tweeted that clip. It’s a perfect summary of clown world thinking.

The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. And I knew we’d get into that rotten stuff pretty soon. Probably at the next gas station.

Supply Laoshu or Demand Laoshu?

“That’s ‘honorary’ to you, cracker, not ‘fake’.”

Dr. Nina Simone

“VAFFANCULO!” he explained.

It’s because of “muh feminism”. First Lady implies a secondary role to that of the POTUS, who also happens to be a man. Can’t have that, so they drudge on with the “her job is equal to his” mantra. Do you think she’s going to be teaching daily and grading papers… whatever “teaching” role she’s in, the class will be lucky to get a one-time pre-recorded zoom speech.

Yeah, Mr. Snotty is all mad. Perhaps we should all genuflect before each of your degrees in succession?

Which is why Trump supporters are smarter than you. Smart enough to add two and two all day and always get four. Their lack of status and … deplorableness eliminates snobbery and the view that someone is better than someone else because of a degree or the car in the driveway.

They know they got the shaft — their wages stay the same decade after decade while food and housing prices go up and up and up. Your class is so stupid they can’t figure out they are just as disposable to the Tech Oligarchs as Joe Sixpack was decades ago.

Some Hindu Dindu can replace you and yours easily and cheaply enough. For tech stuff, there is an army of H1-Bs and Chinese people to hire. They may not be very good but there ten times cheaper. Meanwhile even in Government Jobs Educated White people are toast. How can you not understand DIE DIE DIE (Diversity Inclusion Equity) as the message to Whitey. You yourself — there is a black person and even better a black lesbian transgender who can do your job. And because black lesbian transgender, much much better. Just ask that Wise Latina. Indeed the future unless you stick with the proles is one where you are sitting under an overpass eating bugs all day. Quite literally. And that’s the good outcome.

Primate 101 — Unless you stick with the males of your tribe, Alpha and Beta and Omega and everything else, the other males from the other tribe will kill you all and your male children and take your wives and daughters. That’s it. That’s how primates are. The ugly hick Trump voters understand that. But somehow you think your non-White co-workers and the like actually LIKE you and would risk their lives to save you somehow from the Rwanda purge that’s coming. Its about as dumb as cutting off one’s man parts and committing suicide to hitch a ride on a spaceship behind a comet. And I thought that was the dumbest thing I’d ever seen.
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As for Dr. Jill — she’s a disaster. Stupid, arrogant, sheltered, vengeful, I’m getting a Marie Antoinette vibe off her already. She’s stupid enough to push Biden ahead in Defund the Police (in a leaked call he said he would but don’t like Fight Club talk about it). While grabbing every gun and forcing a lockdown that never ends and then no more meat, fish, chicken, eggs, milk etc. just bugs and sewer water for the Great Reset like that idiot Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum (a recipe for violent revolution if ever I saw one). Then as state after state rebels and starts a soft secession she’s likely to call in … the Chinese Military in desperation to touch off a Civil War 2.0 with nukes and foreign intervention and Magdeburg Quarter.

A community college teacher as President. Really? At least Obama had some acquaintance with the world, sheltered though he was in the main. He knew when to play Golf. Dr. Jill being female and stupid won’t figure it out in time.

I think that all this fuss that women are making over calling Jill Biden “Doctor” is because they’re embarrassed that so many First Spouses have been women, and now here, in spite of their best efforts, is yet another one.

At last, a Presidency in which there is no First Lady, but instead the more prestigious ‘Doctor.”

It really defuses the whole thing. Instead of hearing “Hey look, it’s the President and the First Lady”, they will hear “Look, here comes the President and the First Doctor.”

Given Joe’s obvious infirmities, that might actually reassure a lot of people.

I visited Dr. Biden in 2018, for a terrible rash. She had a terrific, very compassionate approach to my condition. I followed her recommendation and read several articles written by the dermatologist, Dr. Ta-Nehisi Coates. I followed Dr. Coates directions to dye my skin with a deep black, fully organic and sustainable dye.

Within a week the rash disappeared. More importantly, I was less frequently violently assaulted by the neighborhood African-Americans. I think Dr. Biden is a great doctor, a genius really.

I understand that President Joe Biden’s brother, James, is also involved in healthcare. Things are about to really improve for all Americans.

Maybe you should just try to get yourself a good night’s sleep, before your mom comes in and wakes you up for school?

lol. Which of your degrees taught you that one, little Mr. Snotty?

OT: Are you as tired of Joe Biden as I am? I’ve been using this simple game to feel better: search for “Florida Man” headline and then substitute “President Joe Biden”. For example:

“President Joe Biden trapped in unlocked closet for two days”

“President Joe Biden caught on video licking doorbell”

“President Joe Biden insists syringes pulled from rectum aren’t his”

“President Joe Biden tries to evade arrest by cartwheeling away from cops”

“President Joe Biden Accused of Luring Kids: He Tells Cops He Can’t Recall As He ‘Drinks 18-20 Beers Before Talking to Children’”

“President Joe Biden Threatens to Kill Man With ‘Kindness,’ Uses Machete Named ‘Kindness’”

“President Joe Biden tells cop his name is ‘Ben Dover’”

“President Joe Biden groped Disney World princess while Jill* sat next to him”

* Substituting “Jill” for “wife” also allowed

Still less annoying than Dr. Professor Blasey Blah Blah..

This might shape into a nice, heartwarming, silly-season news-waster.

Jill Biden’s various white knights and flunkies are really dumb. When they take a breath from demanding Feinstein’s resignation (for senility, of all things) they lay right into Streisanding this one, remarkably ignorant of the only way political figures ever win from this type of small-ball fracas, i.e. by shrugging it off.

You’d think, after this long in public life and 13 years with the bureaucratic degree, she’d already know all that — but it’d be hilarious instead if her sycophant “Veep”-esque coterie had been going along with the white-coat shtick all this time.

But if she’s as clueless and uptight as Liz Warren was the lolmilk will flow from the lolcows.

WSJ did print a self-righteous letter that just made it funnier for me:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dr-is-inthe-next-first-lady-earned-it-11607886242

Just read a bit of Hunter S. Thompson. Not Mencken, but one of the good ones.

While Dr. Cosby may have used his work on The Electric Company toward his BA from Temple, his EdD dissertation was about another one of his TV shows: An Integration of the Visual Media Via ‘Fat Albert And The Cosby Kids’ into the Elementary School Curriculum as a Teaching Aid and Vehicle to Achieve Increased Learning

I note a serious difference of opinion between Joe and Jill Biden on the academic performance of disadvantaged minorities in an integrated classroom.

Dr. Jill, from her doctoral thesis: “Although there is strength in diversity as a classroom component, the lack of homogeneity in academic ability makes it difficult to teach to a single standard.”

Joe Biden, speaking at a town hall hosted by the Asian & Latino Coalition: “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”

They don’t make Jills like they used to. This group, from Joe’s infancy, included a Jill and a Jill Senior:

The dogs pushed themselves too. But, they had to learn how to pull a
sled together and obey human commands. They loved to run! Especially my
favorite group of dogs! I called them the “Cream Team.” They were all lightcolored, smart, hard-working – the best dog team I ever had. Jack and Jill, Saucy
and Darka, Noel and Nome, and Jill Senior and Mala were their names.

https://mhs.mt.gov/Portals/11/education/Footlocker/WWII.pdf?ver=2019-10-11-160750-303
p.98

Helena man, 91, recalls art of mushing: Dave Armstrong bears the ‘first name in Montana mushing’ for sled dog training at Camp Rimini

Jill, Sr kissing Armstrong:

Who is still with us at 100:

A history of the “Race to the Sky” competition
The co-founder began the race after World War II

Loyal wife–good for her.

We can hope that Jill is loyal to Joe, perhaps in part for the prestige, power and wealth that comes with him. She was not loyal to her first husband, if we believe his claim that she began an affair with Biden while they were still married and working on one of his campaigns. Biden prefers to put the date of the beginning of their relationship after her divorce.

Considering the deathless obsession with height-o-metrics I actually am surprised he’s never posted on Sen. 99th Pctl.

Or it could be that she’s just not an interesting subject to write about beyond that.

Well, at least the two of you agree. But I don’t give a damn.

Of all the things to focus on, the academic title of the First Lady seems to be a marginal and trollish thing to care about.

It could be that she was a bit of a hottie back in the day, and still has a reasonably good body for her age, so she’s getting some special attention?

Thing that impressed me most about working sled dogs, they’re a lot smaller and leaner than you would expect. Kind of like the old timey timber fallers. “Fallers were not always giants. A common type was the gaunt, rangy Norwegian, Finn, or Pole.” This was Logging p.41, Ralph W. Andrews, Schiffer Publishing Ltd., 1984.

WSJ did print a self-righteous letter that just made it funnier for me:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dr-is-inthe-next-first-lady-earned-it-11607886242

The Washington Post printed a self-righteous op-ed about that letter in the WSJ’s opinion page.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/dr-jill-biden-wall-street-journal/2020/12/13/e43883a4-3d45-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html

Pretty soon, all that newspapers will be printing is huffy opinion pieces about each other’s opinion pieces.

Joe Biden seemed to think school segregation was a hot ticket back in the day. That seems to jive with the good Dr.’s thesis.

The nice part about Joe is that he says a lot of things and will do zero of them. That was also the not so nice part about Trump, as well.

That third one was Andrew Gillum, right? (“I have no idea how those…objects got to where they were. What’s important, what needs to be stressed, is that, in keeping with social distancing guidelines, I was fully masked at the time.”)

This probably one of the funniest medical s skits ever.

I can’t wait for EducationRealist to write on his thoughts on Jill and how she might impact any education policies. He’s talked about how the vast majority of Republican education reformers were essentially NeverTrumpers so they never gained traction in Trump’s presidency. Maybe this might mark a return to Obama’s education agenda? I joked that Common Core could be secretly stashed in a major COVID Bill but that might not be so funny now.

33, surely.

Will she be the first lady or the first doctor?

Also, the eternal question you neglected to ask:

Gosh, Kamala and Jill Biden were both sluts thirty years ago. Call for the National Enquirer.

Is a nurse practitioner higher than an Ed.D?

Probably because they’re all too busy doing actual work.

Busy make real money too.

It’s the fact that she’s one of those snotty types who insist on her title no matter what. It’s unseemly and points to a deep insecurity about her actual intellectual capacity. Like that guy in The Office who used to always bring up the fact that he went to Cornell, who needed to do it to make himself feel superior to all the other drones.

I’ve known people like that—always announcing their title or their college—and they are always insufferable, insecure folk with no real accomplishments outside their degree or college.

People given to pathetic boasting like that can never be made to see how it looks to the rest of us. This, their own tragedy–and seldom is it their only one.

Oh no, place them all on Obamacare Bronze and a healthy National Institute of Health approved diet of carbohydrates and sugars.

My high-school diploma was sufficient. Has anyone in your family ever managed to earn one?

Explains his “dementia”

I’ve heard it from various profs over years that the doctorate can be pretty elastic as to its actual meaning. If you got a doctorate in physics in the early 20th century, you may participate in radically altering how we look at the universe. Doctorates in medicine and law are vocational. Doctorates in the humanities are often regarded as the emptiest of empty credentials.

After the Ph. D. is conferred, circumstances of actual employment make a difference. If the best you can do is a lower-tier university where uppity but very bright junior faculty are bullied about by department chairs, you may lose your intellectual edge and hunger to make a mark.

You’re the type of fellow to barge into other people’s conversations in real life too, I take it?

Eh, she probably wouldn’t last two years but based on the photo of her attacking the heckler she would at least make it a week. Source: someone who once taught in an “inner city” middle school.

Simply apply the Coulter Law. If it takes days for his identity to be made public, it’s a POC.

Never fails.

We’re not expected to take Melania as an intellectual heavyweight.

White educated voters left the party that was becoming the party of white non-educateds.

…to join the party of black non-educateds.

What is it with you, anyway?

You don’t like Trump, and you don’t like his voters. Okay. We get it. But what do you hope to accomplish by trolling around this site and getting into pissing matches with random commenters, other than cementing your reputation as an obnoxious prick?

Does the average Dem think Biden will be transformational? I seriously doubt it. I think most Dem voters just want to go back to work, end the riots, and enjoy the holidays with their families.

So you’re saying that they’re too stupid to figure out that they’re voting for a radical leftist agenda? I’m not inclined to disagree.

Trump’s endless cold war with the institutions that facilitate the smooth operation of our global economy got us COVID, an increased trade deficit with the Chinese, and a bunch of working class whites who think their opinion matters.

You’re trying to convey an aura of smug self-superiority – “I sneer at those stupid Trump voters who’ve deluded themselves into believing their opinion matters!” – but you’re trying too hard.

An insecure loser always reveals himself through the shrillness of his screeching, the pettiness of his nasty remarks, the sheer virulence of his hatred. He’s got a chip on his shoulder; he needs to pick fights to prove his manhood; he needs to convince himself that he’s “winning” (however he defines the term) the arguments that he starts.

If you honestly believe that you are the smartest guy in the room, this is how you express genuine contempt for the insects crawling at your feet:

I am an intellectual giant. Compared to me, the vast majority of people are mindless vermin. I go through life cultivating a sense of utter revulsion toward the drooling dolts with whom I have the misfortune of conversing. But I don’t need to convince them of my superiority, or to rub their inferiority in their faces. (For one thing, they’re too dumb to realize just how mind-bogglingly stupid they really are. My arguments are so sophisticated that they can’t even begin to understand them.) Let the kiddies play in their sandboxes and shit in their litterboxes while they remain blissfully unaware of the magnitude of their insignificance. Tt’s all the same to me.

You insult your lessers casually and dismissively, but you don’t go overboard, because you don’t care enough about their feelings to try to make them feel bad.

Stay frosty, my friend.

a bunch of working class whites who think their opinion matters

According to you, they’re nothing more than soulless automatons, empty vessels for Trumpian bullshit, brain-dead NPCs. Why do you care what they think? The opinions of cockroaches are of no consequence to you.

Why do you need to keep piling on? Your guy won, didn’t he? Why can’t you be gracious in victory?

I’m a white, post-graduate degree holder who voted for Trump in 2016 as a firm rejection of Hillary Clinton.

It’s good to know that you’re not totally insane.

I work in China, so I had no obligations from the woke scolds who occupy the University system in the States, no niggers who would come burn down my house if they learned I voted Trump.

Huh. For someone who brags about his credentials, you certainly express yourself in a very crude manner.

After 4 years of patiently observing this cuck bend the knee to Israel, abandon his friends, liberate his enemies and allow every Democrat to gaslight him into COVID tyranny in March, I knew exactly what to do. I took a train to the US embassy in Beijing from Dalian and voted for Joesph Robinette Biden. And several GOP politicians downballot.

You opposed the lockdowns … so you voted for Biden? Evidently you’ve been educated well beyond your intelligence.

You express a deep, burning hatred of white proles, and proclaim your solidarity with well-educated white liberals:

That’s what I voted for! I’ll finish working in China and then hopefully retire to some post-racial community in Wisconsin while the white working class is driven to slave-like conditions. They’ll be my domestic servants, hopefully.

The primary reason I distrust people without university diplomas is that it’s clear that they don’t value the same things I do.

And yet you left the United States because you opposed gay marriage, the well-educated-white-liberal cause célèbre of the first Obama term:

Fag marriage was the point at which I decided America was lost. Best of luck with your collapsing gay empire.

Support for gay marriage has always correlated strongly with educational attainment. The proles kept voting against it and the “woke scolds” kept voting for it until the gay lobby finally rammed it through the courts:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/12/03/education-and-income-were-strong-factors-in-vote-against-gay-marriage/

Among Californians with a high school diploma or less, 69 percent voted for [a ban on gay marriage]. Among college graduates, 57 percent voted against it.

So what’s your take on this phenomenon – your beloved “smart” people supporting such stupid policies? Why is it that so many overcredentialed buffoons end up swallowing the leftist Kool-Aid and becoming insufferable scolds?

At any rate, there’s no point in my getting into a tiff with you. No doubt you’ll respond to this comment with a word salad of sneering putdowns. Feel free to hurl as many vicious insults at me as you can muster.

The primary reason I distrust people without university diplomas is that it’s clear that they don’t value the same things I do

The core of Trump voters in 2016 lacked diplomas, but had above average incomes. Education is good thing, but it doesn’t appeal to everyone.

Explains his “dementia”

Now I know how Neil Kinnock felt

Nah, just kidding, steal away – the important thing is that we spread the laughter

Why do so many people like this post here? I thought this blog was supposed to be for intelligent people?

It is and was, but Steve couldn’t help that women sneaked in and ruined the dialog with stupid.

“But to keep it simple and direct, I think we should just start referring to Mrs Biden as ‘Dr J’.”

But can she elevate?

(As an aside, I just fucking love Dr. J. You still see him on TV every now and then Just a cool MFer.)

Dr. Biden- meet Dr. King ….

So what’s your take on this phenomenon – your beloved “smart” people supporting such stupid policies? Why is it that so many overcredentialed buffoons end up swallowing the leftist Kool-Aid and becoming insufferable scolds?

Well, when presented with narrow-minded people like you nipping at their heels, I understand why those well-educateds opt for soy over corn syrup. You presented me for what I am, a Spencerian (Richardian variety). When push comes to shove, I am a white who wants to forcibly impose my particular ideology on both proles and yuppies until they become suitable material to uplift. I do this with my Chinese university post, a useful ideological bludgeon.

What is difficult to understand here?

How is that relevant?

I think the HST references are funny, so keep it up Steve.

Agreed. And, over 120 comments into this thread, the lost irony is that HST himself had his share of fun with his own honorary doctorate, self-referencing as a “Doctor of Journalism” and even using “Dr. Hunter S. Thompson” on his Songs Of The Doomed collection as I recall.

One also recalls the scene from “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” wherein Nicholson introduces his fellow escaped loony-bin inmates as Dr. A, Dr. B, Dr. C, … Mr. J [who was a jerk] … Dr. X, Dr. Y, Dr. Z …

They’re certainly more useful. Like any other field you have good ones and bad ones.

Titles create hierarchy. Therefore, they are useful within their realm of operation. A medical doctor is right to insist on being called “Doctor” by his patients and staff. Similarly, with academics and their peers or students. And for a President, by the residents of that nation.

Further, it’s often right and proper to refer to someone by their title as a sign of respect, even outside of that realm. But this is generally voluntary or situational.

When titles are insisted upon outside of these, it’s obnoxious. Primarily, because the titles are used to create a hierarchy where none should exist. And secondly, because the titles in common use are largely a historical artifact and have little relationship to merit.

If you support enforced titles, you should refer to everyone by one fact of their choosing (their wealth, IQ, job title, award they’ve won, etc).

“Excuse me DOCTOR”

The President of Guyana is usually styled as His Excellency Dr. Mohamed Irfaan Ali in press releases, but on a second mention is downgraded and loses the doctorate.

She got her fancy degree so she would never have to teach. Administration work pays really well, and they don’t do diddly but sign edicts written by secretaries.

Not ugly, just poorly groomed. Taking advice from her mother, I’d guess, or trying to compete with Ivanka. Her weight fluctuates and has been in excess at times.

The ideal quantum of makeup on a woman’s face is nil. The ideal quantum of dye in her hair is also nil. The ideal number of tats on her body is also nil. The ideal quantum of time in a given month spent getting a perm is also nil. The ideal number of curlers and curling irons owned is also nil. The list of people on a given day who see your thighs or your bare shoulders is properly very short.

When push comes to shove, I am a white who wants to forcibly impose my particular ideology on both proles and yuppies until they become suitable material to uplift. I do this with my Chinese university post, a useful ideological bludgeon.

No, you’re a clever troll LARPing as an inept CCP tool. If you really were a Chicom asset, you wouldn’t make it so blindingly obvious.

We might as well call you Peking Duck.

Not typically.

What is it with you, anyway?

Dude, it’s yet another troll. That’s all. Pretends to be an expat in China.

At any rate, there’s no point in my getting into a tiff with you.

Ya think?

Maybe Jill is hoping for a TV show someday like Dr Oz or Dr Phil. It could be about how to keep your stupid useless kids in school and sneakily teaching the parents how to help.

For example, right now it could be about logging in, turning on the camera and mic, and answering questions.

I see a lot of possibilities here, once she’s established her brand.

Hope Dr Biden sees this

It doesn’t outrank a GED from Martin Luther King Adult High School

The number of women (especially over the age of 30) who appear presentable without wearing any makeup and without any attempt at hair styling is very very low. Most women need at least a little help to present the kind of appearance that is expected in our society. This is not to say that they need to be painted up like clowns. The ideal amount of makeup for a woman is an amount that doesn’t call attention to itself and that looks like she isn’t wearing any, but that is different from actually not wearing any. You want to give the ILLUSION of nature which is not the same thing as nature itself.

Plastic surgery is another thing that should be avoided – it rarely looks like anything other than plastic surgery. If you can tell that the person has had plastic surgery then they’ve had too much.

Dr. Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow, President (for life) of Turkmenistan.

I believe you’re right on Coulter’s law, but this article has phot of perp.:

https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/14/nyc-cathedral-shooting-video-gunman-killed-cops-steps/

Judging by his face mask, I’d say he’s a patriotic Dominican, but we aren’t supposed to notice such nit picky details are we? Only our corporate betters (such as Walmart) should be doing any noticing.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/3×5-Dominican-Republic-Flag-Banner-Pennant-Bandera-New-Indoor-Outdoor/913068162?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222093634220&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=75110456256513&wl4=pla-4578710027323341:aud-808579512&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=913068162_10000001209&wl14=dominican%20republic%20flag%20image&veh=sem&msclkid=a38adfa25b271c090b3d8075c02258c7

PS: Congrats to that other anon for the Unz Quadfecta!

After seeing that I couldn’t help but go back and add a Disagree to the first comment. Especially since I do.

Agree 100%.

Any guess on how long it will be before Rosie shows up and posts some rambling attempt at a rebuttal?

How do I know this? Because this is exactly what they accuse righties of doing. So its projection.

I used to hate projection. Before I figured out how wonderful it is for offering a window into someone’s thoughts. (it can still be annoying, but the benefit is usually greater than the cost)

Edith Wilson waited until Woodrow had his stroke before she took over – will Joe’s good wife/doctor dare wait that long?

How long can Jill stave off Kamala’s inevitable palace revolution?

Is there any chance Harris will stupidly overplay her hand too soon, and thus ensure a full Biden term?

After seeing that I couldn’t help but go back and add a Disagree to the first comment.

Perfect.

A degree to be reckoned with …Dr. Ruth Westheimer, Doctor of S E X Education.

She is really, REALLY DANGEROUS and been hit in battle.

2. She was a sniper: Only a few years later at the age of 17, Dr. Ruth went to Israel and became a member of the Haganah (a Jewish paramilitary group), fighting for the country’s independence and training as a sniper.

“I was a sniper in the underground in the Haganah in 1948. I’ve never killed anybody,” Dr. Ruth commented. “But I was badly wounded on both legs; that’s not why I’m short — I would’ve been short anyway.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/things-dr-ruth/story?id=43902030

If you can tell that the person has had plastic surgery then they’ve had too much.

Like Helen Hunt in her recent movie, I See You (2019).

She looks like Odo from Deep Space 9.

https://celebanswers.com/has-helen-hunt-had-plastic-surgery/

The number of women (especially over the age of 30) who appear presentable without wearing any makeup and without any attempt at hair styling is very very low.

You have bad taste.

Plastic surgery is another thing that should be avoided – it rarely looks like anything other than plastic surgery.

It should be avoided for any reason other than to remove moles, blemishes, scars, and congenital defects, and that can often be done by a dermatologist. Very few people not in a line of work where they are filmed or photographed regularly has plastic surgery for any other reason.

My Ph.D will be in linguistics

A useless field of mostly bullshit. I’m sure your PhD will contribute absolutely nothing useful to human knowledge.

The primary reason I distrust people without university diplomas is that it’s clear that they don’t value the same things I do.

So tell me, where in your vast time spent getting “educated” did you learn to “value” being a self-hating cretin that votes for the racial annihilation of himself and his people? Well, that’s assuming you’re white. Maybe you’re Chinese in which case it all makes a lot of sense.

This explains more of the 2020 red/blue split than any of the race ideology stuff.

For a big-brained PhD you sure don’t seem to understand much. But yeah, the “education” part does explain a lot. You really do have to “educate” white people to vote in favor of destroying the future for their children. That stuff don’t come natural.

A degree to be reckoned with …Dr. Ruth Westheimer, Doctor of S E X Education.

Boy, you don’t hear much about her anymore. Another Jew that got rich and famous peddling the uniquely Jewish form of social corrosion and smut.

Not ugly, just poorly groomed. Taking advice from her mother, I’d guess, or trying to compete with Ivanka. Her weight fluctuates and has been in excess at times.

She’s a naturally frumpy and funny looking person. The grooming helps her, even if it may seem excessive or tacky. That along with any plastic surgery she might’ve had.

She along with Rumer Willis, the daughter of Bruce Willis and Demi Moore, are examples of how decent or good looking partners can have funny looking kids.

“an education Ph.D.”

Most (all?) universities grant Ed.D.s not Ph.D.s to the timeserving but compliant morons who comprise the graduate student body of ed schools.

Traditionally, Ph.D.s are for people in Arts and Sciences schools (physical, life, and social sciences along with humanities).

Law Schools, B Schools, Pharmacy Schools, Medical Schools, Ed Schools, etc grant some other thing as their “doctorate” degree.

That’s often true (especially for Women of Colour) but it appears that Dr. Jill has always remained a teacher and never moved into administration. However getting her doctorate might have aided her transition from high school teacher to community college professor.

In the immortal words if PJ O’Rourke: Anybody who doesn’t know what’s wrong with schools never screwed an el-ed major.

Boy, you don’t hear much about her anymore.

Perhaps because she is 92 years old and no longer has her own radio show? Nevertheless, according to the wiki,

Westheimer continues to be an active figure. In addition to the documentary released about her this year [2019], she has recently published her 45th book. On her 91st birthday (June 4), Westheimer visited the Ellen DeGeneres show,[36] and visited Ellen’s show again in November 2019, taking questions from the audience.[37] In 2019 alone, Westheimer has appeared on Late Night with Seth Meyers,[38] The View,[39] and Strahan, Sara and Keke.[40]

Jill Biden’ knows her status flows from her husband–whom she’s invested her life in. She had a chance to be #1 wife in the status hierarchy. And she wasn’t about to let some vegan freaks diminish or embarrass the man her status flows from. She’ll get in there and put the whoop ass on ’em if necessary.

How do you apply your theory to Melania’s public/private support for her husband, our current President?

Relevant.

Also relevant.

Alexa Ray Joel, daughter of Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley also comes to mind. Unfortunately, when great feminine beauties marry burly athletes or high status men, their female offspring are just as likely to take after their dad’s appearance as their mom’s. (Chaz Bono took this a little TOO far). God likes to play jokes like this.

Brinkley also has another daughter by a different father, one who more clearly took after mom.

I agree with you that when nature fails women must do their best to make up the difference. As hard as it is to look at Alexa’s horrifying visage, it would be infinitely worse without the assistance of cosmetic science.

Trump is on record, IIRC, that Marla’s rack was particularly delightful.

You can see why here.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/resizer/AdpNIZ0uB4EHSy0kCx3nj2h71hw=/800×713/top/www.trbimg.com/img-5c191601/turbine/ny-1545147901-7mn4a5sufu-snap-image

But there’s always a time and place to trade in for a new model.

Competing with which Ivanka?

In the words of the self-styled “Lizard King” . . .

“The future’s uncertain, and the end is always near!”

She can be amusingly tacky; she irritated Lee Salk by doing the radio shrink act with more verve than he could manage. She wasn’t ca. 1985 pushing any envelopes; the ambient media culture was already tacky. She’s against the grain on at least one issue, saying reparative therapy for homosexuals is a legitimate endeavour (though she doesn’t say any current program is particularly effective).

Strange as it may seem to you, the looks of young woman change as they grow older, generally for the better up to a point. People will also look different depending on the expression on their face when the camera catches them. They also look different depending on what they’re wearing. I’ll give you points for a more credible photo display than the people trying to sell me the idea that Frank Marshall Davis sired Barack Obama Jr.

The title doctor is honorary for a medical ‘doctor’. It is derived from so many medics claiming Doctor as a fake title. It is astoundingly ignorant to question the title Doctor for Ph.D.. Team Trump/Brexit strikes again.

“Frumpy” is a word I’d never use on a woman who is 27 years old unless she’s got a husband, a couple kids, some post-pregnancy weight gain, cat’s eye glasses, and a hairdresser who fancies hair is sculpture.

lol. Amazing! Mr. Snotty still looks down on anyone who hasn’t got the degrees he has.

And he thinks this is a winning argument. Sad!

Which is the original reason medical practitioners are now called Doctor by default.

Professor, if you actually believe that any of those manifest changes in Ivanka’s looks– her nose, chin, breasts, and hair color– are the results of her natural maturation, over the last couple of decades, or are mere artifacts of the respective photographs, I can only hope that you are typing your comments from a more secure public institution than a college or university!?!

That Odo look is really the product of Botox more than surgery. Look at John Kerry before and after. Relaxing those muscles in the forehead has the effect of stretching the eyebrows out horizontally and creating the Odo/Na’vi look. The paradoxical thing is that it never makes one look younger–just different. In older women I think it’s becoming a marker of wealth, since youth is really beyond their grasp.

OT: Here in the home of the earliest and longest lockdowns, I’ve notice a kind of signaling amongst young fit teenage and youngish women that I remember from my youth–the exposed midriff. With so much that used to signal youth (in the face) forcibly covered, they’ve gone to the places not so encumbered and extremely difficult for the Helen Hunts of the world to fake. Nothing says young hottie like a smooth and flat belly. The kids always find a way!

Taking the GMAT at age 55 was one of the stranger assignments in my mystery-shopping career — I was sent in undercover to evaluate the test center’s anti-cheating procedures and also the general level of service. I managed to make the 83rd percentile on the test even though my mind was mostly on the observations I needed to make, and I certainly had no plans to go in search of a Master’s!

A similar test-center mystery shop for some kind of IT certification actually required me to fail, and believe me I had no problem with that!

Alexa Ray Joel is the prime example of nature being cruel. Her mother is a model and her father is a musician, and she inherited her looks from dad and her singing from mom!

I agree that Tiffany isn’t frumpy. I stand by my original observation that she is ugly. Remember, just because you are young, blonde, and tan doesn’t mean you are attractive (c.f. Kayleigh McEnany).

There’s another set of photo essayists who fancy they’ve proved Webster Hubbell sired Chelsea Clinton. You’re free to cherry-pick images to amuse yourself.

Yeah, I know. I was bored.

OMG, did Whoopie REALLY say that? What a hoot!

Gotta love “The View.”

Dr Mason, would you trust a school board embezzler to place a catheter?

“The ideal quantum of makeup on a woman’s face is nil. The ideal quantum of dye in her hair is also nil.”

You were saying…?

In the meanwhile, fellow iSteve commenters, please feel yourselves fully entitled to register your votes, below, as to whether Ivanka Trump has undergone (several) elective plastic surgeries, since her teen years, as I posit, or instead has merely blossomed, from adolescence into early-middle-age, as the distinguished professor posits.

When I took the L.S.A.T., at Purdue, six weeks after I took the G.M.A.T., they took our thumbprints, to detect, or at least to dissuade, ringers. (The Purdue nickname, Boilermakers, comes from its football team’s alleged use of ringers, in the early years of its program’s history.) That was the only time that I encountered such a measure, when taking such a test (P.S.A.T., S.A.T., G.R.E., G.R.E. subject test for Psychology, G.M.A.T., and L.S.A.T.). I took a practice S.A.T., on a lark, when it was offered at the local public library, nearly twenty years ago, which was nearly thirty years after I had taken the real thing. My main impression of that deja vu experience was that time really seems to pass much more quickly, in one’s forties, than it previously had seemed to do, in one’s teens. The tale of the telomeres, I would assume….

I was saying in response to a different item under discussion.

You have pictures taken 20 years apart, from two different angles, one where the subject has an open mouth and one where her mouth is closed.

Dr Jill will follow hubby and son:

inmate Joe, inmate Hunter, inmate Jill.

In the meanwhile, fellow iSteve commenters, please feel yourselves fully entitled to register your votes, below, as to whether Ivanka Trump has undergone (several) elective plastic surgeries,

First, explain why anyone should care.

Glad to see the current mild disagreement is bringing out your best.

“I was saying in response to a different item under discussion.”

You said what I just had quoted, directly after your casting of aspersions upon Ivanka’s younger half-sister, Tiffany, whom you obviously find to be both unattractive and vulgar. Your pretense that . . .

“The ideal quantum of makeup on a woman’s face is nil. The ideal quantum of dye in her hair is also nil. The ideal number of tats on her body is also nil. The ideal quantum of time in a given month spent getting a perm is also nil. The ideal number of curlers and curling irons owned is also nil. The list of people on a given day who see your thighs or your bare shoulders is properly very short.”

. . . was not intended by you as a general diktat for female grooming and propriety, but merely referred to Tiffany Trump (who, so far as I know, has no tattoos, and does not perm, nor even curl, her hair), is a laughable defense, on your part!

“You have pictures taken 20 years apart, from two different angles, one where the subject has an open mouth and one where her mouth is closed.”

Oh, that changed the color of Ivanka’s hair, from medium-dark brown to “Town & Country” blond? Ivanka merely looks to be wearing a ton of makeup, because of the ambient lighting and the angle of the photographs? (In the last picture comparison that I posted, the young Ivanka did not have her mouth open; she merely was smiling. The older Ivanka was not smiling, but her teeth still showed, slightly, through her lips.)

“It should be avoided for any reason other than to remove moles, blemishes, scars, and congenital defects, and that can often be done by a dermatologist. Very few people not in a line of work where they are filmed or photographed regularly has plastic surgery for any other reason.”

Professor, you are so utterly and patently full of shit, you reek!

Either because (a) the resident savant who goes by the handle of ‘Art Deco’ has made it a matter of contention, after his ungentlemanly savaging of Ivanka Trump’s younger half-sister, Tiffany Trump, based upon her looks; or, (b) for the same reason that an erstwhile marketeer with an M.B.A., who currently makes his living by typing for tips, from within his closet, considers Jill Biden’s use of her earned academic title of “Doctor” to be a joke worth driving into the ground, ad nauseam.

You said what I just had quoted, directly after your casting of aspersions upon Ivanka’s younger half-sister, Tiffany, whom you obviously find to be both unattractive and vulgar. Your pretense that . . .

I don’t care for her grooming. Beyond that, I have nothing to say against her.

I never remarked on Ivanka’s grooming. I don’t think the photos you’re posting prove what you fancy they prove.

Which is why Trump supporters are smarter than you. Smart enough to add two and two all day and always get four. Their lack of status and … deplorableness eliminates snobbery and the view that someone is better than someone else because of a degree or the car in the driveway.

Whole lotta non sequitur here, starting with the fact that I voted for Trump twice.

This is great! Thanks.

Fun fact: Whopper Goldberg, who thousands upon thousands of stupid white women regard as an all-wise oracle and who they get their political “facts” from, is a high school dropout.

C olored boy boxing great Joe Louis summed it up–he was talking about being tough, but it applies to any number of things, including being smart and/or educated:

“If you have to say that you is, then you ain’t”

“I don’t care for her grooming. Beyond that, I have nothing to say against her.”

You previously wrote:

“Not ugly, just poorly groomed. Taking advice from her mother, I’d guess, or trying to compete with Ivanka. Her weight fluctuates and has been in excess at times.”

So, those last two sentences were not intended by you as negative criticisms of Tiffany Trump (and, in the one case, her mother, Marla Maples)? Really…?!?

It’s the postgrad equivalent of the bachelor’s in sociology.

There are paparazzi pictures of Tiffany without makeup. I think most would agree that makeup doesn’t hurt in her case.

That one is indeed the best because you can easily see Biden saying something like it.

“The primary reason I distrust people without university diplomas is that it’s clear that they don’t value the same things I do. ”

So you distrust the white working class for the same reasons negroes do: It must be weird to see people actually work for a living.

Freud was a fraudster, but that which he managed to get right applied to the subset of folks who, like him, were SJWs.

Like projection. SJWs always project, as Vox Day has shown us.

I’ve literally been using the “I know you are but what am I” rule with SJWs since I learned about their projection issue, and its amazing. Merely calling them the exact same slur they just called me makes them flip out, get defensive, get demoralized, and otherwise lose their cool/direction.

This is true even when they realize I am doing it. Merely literally mirroring their slurs against you right back to them is enough to causes their brains to break down and their arguing to fall apart in frustration and reeeing. Even conscious of my technique, they cannot help but be pained and broken down by it.

Now, it doesn’t “win” the fight with an SJW, but merely following the mirroring rule does cause it to become a draw, which is all I can do. I’ll leave the amygdala hijack stuff and total victory to the Vox Days and anonymous conservatives types. I’m not in their league, I just want to protect myself.

But trust me: it is amazingly simple and powerful, a cheat code. And all it requires is your listening to their little rant for the key word slurs they hurl. You just listen, say it back, and keep repeating it—don’t just do it once, any slur they dropped is painful to them.

“I never remarked on Ivanka’s grooming.”

What you previously wrote . . .

“Not ugly, just poorly groomed. Taking advice from her mother, I’d guess, or trying to compete with Ivanka. Her weight fluctuates and has been in excess at times.”

. . . could be interpreted as remarking upon Ivanka Trump’s own grooming, since you said that Tiffany Trump (a) was “poorly groomed,” and (b) might be “trying to compete with Ivanka.” Regardless . . .

“I don’t think the photos you’re posting prove what you fancy they prove.”

How many times do I have to quote you directly before you will concede your rank hypocrisy?

“The ideal quantum of makeup on a woman’s face is nil. The ideal quantum of dye in her hair is also nil. The ideal number of tats on her body is also nil. The ideal quantum of time in a given month spent getting a perm is also nil. The ideal number of curlers and curling irons owned is also nil. The list of people on a given day who see your thighs or your bare shoulders is properly very short.”

. . . and then, a few hours later, you added . . .

“It should be avoided for any reason other than to remove moles, blemishes, scars, and congenital defects, and that can often be done by a dermatologist. Very few people not in a line of work where they are filmed or photographed regularly has plastic surgery for any other reason.”

Ivanka Trump wears a lot of makeup, as most American women do. Ivanka Trump dyes her dark hair blond, as many American women do. Ivanka Trump obviously has had a lot of high-quality elective cosmetic surgery, including to her nose, chin, and breasts, as no small number of American women have– especially among her socio-economic class and socio-cultural peers. She looks much more attractive, now, at the late Jack Benny’s perpetual age, than she did as a nubile teenager, two decades ago. Kudos for her! Raspberries, however, for any man clueless enough to think that she achieved her current level of attractiveness through maturity and healthy living, rather than through the laudable talents of cosmetic surgeons and licensed beauticians.

One’s high-school diploma is not considered a “degree,” where I come from, junior. Perhaps it is viewed differently, where you live.

lol. And Snotty again looks down on those plebeians with “only” a high school degree.

Tell me: do you bow before your 4 degrees on your wall once a day, or is it a muslim thing and you do it 5 times?

China determined it to be of sufficient use to put me into the Thousand Talents program. Say what you will, but they are excellent value extractors. See what happened to American industry, for starters.

We might as well call you Peking Duck.

Outstanding!

Very few people not in a line of work where they are filmed or photographed regularly has plastic surgery for any other reason.

As an empirical proposition this is badly wrong. Ironically, you are probably one of the few people that knows what the total number of people who “in a line of work where they are filmed or photographed regularly” adds up to. Whatever it is , it can hardly account for the quarter of a million yearly rhinoplasties in the USA. This is aside from the huge numbers of rhinoplasty tourism in South America. Rhinoplasty is just one plastic surgery procedure; there are dozens of others.

LOL, it doesn’t even outrank an AS. If you have one of those, employers at least know you have strong math skills. (I had to take math up through differential calculus to get mine.)

I repeat:

Explain why anyone should care. Your budding relationship with Deco isn’t of interest to anyone else.

Try again.

SJW’s have a female mentality. Women always reveal what they fear pretty easily; fear of abandonment is always high on the list. This is why angry women will hurl “You’ll die alone!” at men, they are projecting their own fear.

Think of SJW’s as mid-high girls and their behavior is rather predictable.

Thanks very much for that cheat code! It makes perfect sense. Because the SJW’s always project, and thus they literally tell us what they fear.

Primate 101 — Unless you stick with the males of your tribe, Alpha and Beta and Omega and everything else, the other males from the other tribe will kill you all and your male children and take your wives and daughters. That’s it. That’s how primates are.

Do you have a citation for this? Like real academic research or theory?

Titles create hierarchy. Therefore, they are useful within their realm of operation.

What is useful about them?

Actually Ed schools grant EdDs mostly to school teachers who want to move up in the Ed bureaucracy, the PhD being too time consuming and requiring original data and analysis.

“Let’s review the tape!”

My reply to someone else:

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“I agree. I have earned four university degrees, but no doctorate. (No, my Juris Doctor degree is not a doctorate; it is just a professional degree, rebranded from the traditional Bachelor of Laws degree.) Anyone who has earned a bona fide doctorate, in whichever academic discipline– as opposed to having paid for a “doctorate” from a “diploma mill”– is entitled to call herself “Doctor [Whomever]”; no one else is required to call her by her preferred title, of course. To make a big deal about her doing so is quite petty and unseemly, in my opinion.”

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Your imbecilic injection into that exchange:

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“U mad, bro?”

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My first reply to you:

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“If you’re not mad, by this point, youngster, you’re really not paying close enough attention.

“In the words of Neil Young: ‘Wake up, Seattle! Wake up, America!’”

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Your next reply to me:

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“lol. You and your 4 degrees can get all wee-wee’d up about Jilly B. not getting her Highness’s proper title somewhere else.

“Your pettiness is showing.”

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My next reply to you:

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“‘VAFFANCULO!’ he explained.”

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Your next reply to me:

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“Yeah, Mr. Snotty is all mad. Perhaps we should all genuflect before each of your degrees in succession?”

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My next reply to you:

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“Maybe you should just try to get yourself a good night’s sleep, before your mom comes in and wakes you up for school?”

[Plus a linked picture of Hunter Biden, seemingly asleep (thanks to an unapproved sleep aid.)]

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Your next reply to me:

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“lol. Which of your degrees taught you that one, little Mr. Snotty?”

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My next reply to you:

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“My high-school diploma was sufficient. Has anyone in your family ever managed to earn one?”

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Your next reply to me:

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“lol. Amazing! Mr. Snotty still looks down on anyone who hasn’t got the degrees he has.

“And he thinks this is a winning argument. Sad!”

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My next reply to you:

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“One’s high-school diploma is not considered a ‘degree,’ where I come from, junior. Perhaps it is viewed differently, where you live.”

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Your next, and most recent, reply to me:

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“lol. And Snotty again looks down on those plebeians with ‘only’ a high school degree.

“Tell me: do you bow before your 4 degrees on your wall once a day, or is it a muslim thing and you do it 5 times?”

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In sum:

In none of my several previous replies to you have I either mentioned or alluded to any of my four university degrees, let alone made any arguments based upon an appeal to my own authority, as a result of my having earned them. In contrast, in each of your several replies to my several previous replies to you, you have fixated on my four university degrees, falsely claiming that I was appealing to them for authority, and falsely claiming that I was denigrating anyone who could not match them. Third-party observers may derive whatever conclusions they wish from this essential bifurcation.

My late mother was a mere high-school graduate (Gary Horace Mann), but she undoubtedly had an above-average IQ, and perhaps even a superior one (c. 120-130). My father had to drop out of school in the eighth grade, to go to work during the Great Depression. When he entered the Coast Guard, however, before we entered the war, his IQ was measured at 140. Having been raised in the working class, rather than in poverty like my parents, my IQ ended up marginally higher than his. I do not look down upon them for their lack of college education.

“Here endeth the lesson.”

> What is useful about them?

Organizations generally benefit from hierarchy. It minimizes arguing and useless debate. Like anything good, it can be misused.

The View is an entertainment program with public affairs content. I doubt many of their viewers regard Whoopi Goldberg as an ‘all wise oracle’, just as someone articulate and amusing on the air.

No clue where that datum came from.

Noodling around, I see that the number of ambulatory care appointments in the U.S. each year is now around 917 million and the number of hospitalizations 36 million. About 1.25% of all physicians and surgeons are plastic and reconstructive surgeons. That suggests foot traffic of about 12 million per year. The last time I can recall anyone in our house having ambulatory surgery, there were at least three visits to the clinic involved, so you posit 4 million cases a year. How many involved the removal of basal cells and sebacious cysts and the like?

It’s probably just a typo but laoshu (老鼠) means mouse or rat.
The correct title would be XYZ 老师 (Laoshi = teacher).

This is a tiresome discussion. Whether Ivanka looks handsome or not is a question distinct from that of how women should conduct themselves as a matter of course. And, of course, the question of whether Ivanka has or had not had plastic surgery is a question distinct from (1) Tiffany’s grooming good or bad, (2) How women should conduct themselves generally, and (3) the degree to which Ivanka is attractive.

This is a tiresome discussion.

Well, you’ve come to the right place then.

Crystal Gayle sings M.R.S. Degree

Doctor Jill is probably not a Crystal Gayle fan.

That third one was Andrew Gillum, right? (“I have no idea how those…objects got to where they were. What’s important, what needs to be stressed, is that, in keeping with social distancing guidelines, I was fully masked at the time.”)

Is this really COVID-19 compliant?

Maybe in San Francisco.

I did explain. Your inability to comprehend is neither my fault nor my problem. Your assumption that no one should care about a discussion, because you do not, is pure solipsism. Feel free to inquire of the Professor, however, as to why he is incapable of confessing to his mistakes and hypocrisies, when they are pointed out by others.

It is and was

LMAO. Guess you weren’t here a few years ago to witness those brainiac male commenters you speak of fruitlessly wrestling with Raven’s matrices. Or maybe you were one of them.

Link should be http://www.trbimg.com/img-5c191601/turbine/ny-1545147901-7mn4a5sufu-snap-image

Whoopi was born something like Karen Johnson, but soon figured out that there was money to be made being a Professional Negro.

And in certain Miami Beach hotels.

“This is a tiresome discussion.”

Praise Zeus for the Law of Averages! For once, Professor, you actually are right.

“Whether Ivanka looks handsome or not is a question distinct from that of how women should conduct themselves as a matter of course.”

For the first question, I have zero need of input, let alone of help, from you, Professor. For the second, I may consult my second-eldest brother, who was ordained by Pope Paul VI, in the largest ordination ceremony in the history of the Roman Catholic Church, just over forty-five years ago. Despite his being a now-retired priest, permanently residing in a Third World country, he has a far more healthy view of women than you do, based upon your previously quoted standards: no makeup, no (artificial) curls, no bare shoulders, etc. Perhaps you just should have stayed with whichever self-contained religious sect in which you were raised, rather than entering a secular world that, even back when I was born, would have disgusted your puritanical standards of unadorned female beauty and comportment.

“And, of course, the question of whether Ivanka has or had not had plastic surgery is a question distinct from (1) Tiffany’s grooming good or bad, (2) How women should conduct themselves generally, and (3) the degree to which Ivanka is attractive.”

We have a saying in my former profession, Professor: “Res ipsa loquitur.”

When most of us speak of “good grooming,” vis-a-vis people, rather than dogs, we are more concerned with good personal hygiene than with the bizarre personal tastes of pseudonymous professors of whatever useless subject that you (presumably) earned your doctorate in, so that you would be able to teach graduate students to be as useless as you have been. I cannot imagine a woman, outside of the aforementioned sect, who would give a proverbial hoot about your aforementioned rules for female “grooming” and comportment. Whether or not you find Ivanka Trump attractive– I do, thanks solely to her expert plastic surgeries; but, she is not at all my preferred type, physically or otherwise– you would have zero chance in dating a woman like her; so, the point really is practically moot, if not academically so. Stick to your dusty books and arcane government statistics, Professor, and leave the real world to those of us who can at least engage with it with the tools that we were given.

It wasn’t in the skill set of Julius Erving either, but then it was worth only two points then so why bother with it when you can simply go to the rack and drop it in?

tl; dr

Yes, c. 400 words– many of them your own– is a real struggle for someone of your high intellect. I am afraid that it is well past time for you just to retire to Sussex and raise bees, old bean. 🐝

She looks like James Cameron in drag.

Even worse, Whoopi is actually Caryn Johnson, even though her parents were named Robert and Emma and she grew up before the time of creative name spelling. In the 1950s Karen was the 12th most popular girls’ name and was at its peak of popularity. Caryn was 650th in the 1950s.

If Jill Biden wants to be known as Dr Jill or Dr Biden that’s her choice. She does had a doctorate in education. She did spend time and money on it. If she wants to be Mrs Biden, Ms Biden or use her maiden name instead if her husband surname it’s no one business.

The new doctorates in gender studies, trans studied, and the rest of the studies are probably even more ludicrous than her ED doctorate. There’s a PHD offered in “ Social Justice Entrepreneurship “. basically
Buttinsky grant graft, grifting and grubbing.

Reminds me, Abraham Lincoln High in San Francisco name is being changed because he was mean to the Indians and blacks didn’t matter to him. The renaming committee is not thinking about a new name yet.

They’ll probably rename the school after one of the Zebra Killers or other infamous black San Francisco criminals.

So you watch the View huh? Must be the only man or woman of UNZ who does.

If you would shut up about the 1 percent of black men in Orange County stealing all the White women away you would be a great commenter.

First 4 paragraphs about affirmative action taking every job from mail carrier to judge, dishwasher to medical doctor is A++++, excellent.

I don’t care about Whites having relationships and kids with non Whites. I married White and got the Botticelli girls I wanted. That was my choice . But every conservative or pro White website has race traitor White men bragging that they are better than other White men because they have Asian wives and gala kids. And that Asian women are superior to White women.

Asian women want the height and fairness for their kids. . And green cards for their entire clans. S California is full of brunette Whites. But I never ever see an Asian women with a Persian Armenian Arab Indian looking man. It’s always a fair skinned brown hair N European looking man. Even on college campuses where N European White men are scarce. Shortness is disgraceful in Asia. Means generations of malnutrition caused by poverty. Dark skin means coolie farm workers, lowest of the low.

Another thing White men with Asian wives don’t realize is that daughter’s are not worth much in Asian culture. So they might as well marry out.
“ Getting rid of a daughter in marriage is like throwing away the dirty dishwater”. Old Chinese saying. “ Feeding the girls is a a waste of food” is another.

Sons are treasures. There is great great pressure in Asian sons to marry the right woman from the right country and ethnicity, home province , town, same general occupation, etc. Asian sons are told outright marry the wrong girl and you’ll get no wedding presents and be disinherited. Marry the right girl and you’ll get a paid for new car and a down payment on a house for a wedding present.

If you’re happy with your Asian wife that’s great. But going on a conservative pro White website and bragging your wife and kids aren’t White is just assholism to the max. “I’m superior to the rest of you guys because my wife’s Asian. “. That’s all you can be proud of, your wife’s race?

I admire the White men who stayed in America and survived affirmative action and vicious hatred far more than a White man who had to flee to Asia to survive. And I admire the blue eyed fair skinned men and women who marry and preserve our genes for another couple generations. Affirmative action job discrimination means we can’t marry and support White kids. Unless we go on welfare to have kids Whites just night disappear in the next 300 years.

If all you have to brag about is your wife’s race, that’s pretty pathetic.

Linguistics PHD. Just another load of useless garbage. It’s the 1950s version of transgender studies. Made up useless gobbledygook.