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From the Tacoma News Tribune:

KNKX boots weather guru Mass over his comparison of Seattle protests to Nazi Germany
BY CRAIG SAILOR
AUGUST 07, 2020 03:11 PM , UPDATED 1 HOUR 51 MINUTES AGO

Tacoma public radio station KNKX dropped weather commentator Cliff Mass Thursday after the University of Washington meteorology professor compared recent violent incidents during Seattle civil rights protests to Kristallnacht, or the “Night of Broken Glass,” during the Nazi Germany era.

Mass made the comparison on his immensely popular weather blog Wednesday. Since then, outrage has bellowed across the social media landscape.

KNKX announced Thursday evening it was ending its relationship with Mass immediately.

“ … if a commentator, even on his own independent platform, delivers rhetoric that is offensive and inaccurate, we cannot support it,” the station wrote on its website.

The Nazi-organized Kristallnacht destroyed over 250 synagogues and 7,000 Jewish businesses, cemeteries and homes in 1938. Mass likened the graffiti, smashed windows and threats to public officials of recent Seattle Black Lives Matter protests to Kristallnacht.

“We abhor the comparison and find it sensationalized and misleading — it does not reflect who we are and what we stand for at KNKX,” the station said.

Most of the blog post dealt with Mass’s impressions on a recent walking tour of downtown Seattle where some businesses remain boarded up and where he witnessed an alleged drug transaction. He had harsh criticism for Seattle leadership and Gov. Jay Inslee.

“Seattle citizens had every right to express strong views in public about their concerns for our nation’s Black citizens,” Mass said. “But many of the marches and gatherings turned violent and destructive, breaking windows, burning cars, looting stores, and deliberately harming police who tried to restore safety and order.”

Mass later removed the Kristallnacht comparison from the blog and said he was referring only to the violent aspects of the protests.

There was some support of Mass’s post but most comments were negative.

“I did not think that my UW colleague Cliff Mass could lower my opinion of my UW colleague Cliff Mass,” wrote UW biology professor Carl Bergstrom on Twitter. “I was wrong.”

Good job, Carl.

… Mass, who is Jewish, said his background informs his take on society.

“All these terrible things we’re done to my people … and German people stayed silent,” Mass said. “People were afraid to say anything. And no one would intervene.”

Here’s Mass’s blogpost on his firing.

But Mass misses the crucial moral point: the glass-smashers in Germany in 1938 were the Bad Guys while the glass-smashers in America in 2020 are the Good Guys. So, Mass must be canceled.

As Kant explained in his famous Categorical Imperative:

Act only on that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law that the Good Guys always win and the Bad Guys always lose.

When Hume objected that he couldn’t quite follow Kant’s reasoning in this, Kant famously replied with his trademark crushing logic:

White Fragility, lol!

 
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  1. Jewish Weatherman

    Oh, phew… For a second there, I thought Chesa Boudin’s parents had been released and given media jobs.

    • Agree: Kronos
    • LOL: Escher
  2. Is the left going to succeed in ripping apart Jewish “society,” insofar as there is one (obviously there are already huge divisions and therefore multiple societies).

  3. Again, NPR has always been government-funded narrative spinning on behalf of the Democratic Party. They’re first president was George McGovern’s campaign manager. They are properly shut down.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Art Deco

    Art Deco writes:

    "Again, NPR has always been government-funded narrative spinning on behalf of the Democratic Party. They’re first president was George McGovern’s campaign manager. They are properly shut down."

    I reply:

    Sigh. Those were the days in the early 1980s when we all thought the problem with the terrible media was that it was too much government run, NPR and what was needed was privitization of NPR, the Post Office, privatization of the terrible urban Black public schools - you know the whole Milton Friedman thing.

    Now here we are 40 years later and we've learned in HORROR that all the private companies that matter are run by racial, ethnic, sexual groups that HATE us and want our people/culture replaced.

    When the idiot Libertarian loons go along with the WORST anti White BLM, ADL, SPLC tech monopolists and privatize our instate highway system, we won't be able to drive on the Interstates - Jeff Zucker, Mark Zuckerberg, Cass Sustein, CAIR (Strange Bedfellows there) Black Lives Matter street gang thugs will have guards on the on ramps and those of us who did some terrible sin like saying Jussie Smollett was lying - we'll be on the no drive list.

  4. The amazing thing is that the Tribune actually mentioned the guy’s religion this time.

    In other news, the Washington Post is now capitalizing ‘white’?? Not to mention mentioning ‘white’?? I guess that one’s on the Trump Justice Dept.

    The Justice Department declared Thursday that a two-year investigation of Yale University’s admissions has found that the Ivy League school illegally discriminates against White and Asian American applicants in the highly competitive process of choosing an undergraduate class.

    The probe was launched in 2018 after Asian American groups complained about Yale’s admissions.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/justice-department-accuses-yale-of-illegal-bias-against-white-asian-american-applicants-in-admissions/2020/08/13/d99a7376-dda5-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html

    “There is no such thing as a nice form of race discrimination,” Eric Dreiband, assistant attorney general for civil rights, said in a statement.

    The department’s findings represented the latest step by the Trump administration in challenging the use of race in selective college admissions.

    Yep, they’re pinning this one on Trump.

  5. All these terrible things we’re done to my people

    But, but, but . . . I thought that he was American. Aren’t we his people?

    Maybe the eternal question – “Is it good for the Jews?” – starting to get a different answer when it comes to the replacement of Whites with POC and the destruction of our people and culture.

    If Mr. Mass thinks that some BLM rioters could be bad news for his people, he should read about the Hutu and Tutsi fun in Rwanda and ponder whether his people would do better in a country populated by their relatives.

  6. the University of Washington meteorology professor compared recent violent incidents during Seattle civil rights protests to Kristallnacht, or the “Night of Broken Glass,” during the Nazi Germany era.

    He ain’t wrong.

  7. He’s got a post up about it on his blog…
    https://cliffmass.blogspot.com

    Like the activists he says have been opposing for years, I suspect Carl Bergstrom’s opinion was pre-ordained.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Chrisnonymous

    Thanks, Chris. I've heard of this guy for years, and I'd thought I remembered he was one of us "deniers" regarding the Global Climate Disruption(TM) hysteria. There was some controversy that went nationwide a few years back, with Cliff Mass involved, but I can't put my finger on it. This is from his blog (per your link):


    Now I have probably written more papers and done more research on Northwest weather and climate than any other individual. I know the literature. I attend the seminars. I wrote on book on NW weather and climate. I have spent a lifetime learning about it. But a bunch of climate activists, such as groups like 350.org decided they knew better. They were particularly unhappy when I exposed some of the hype and exaggeration promulgated by the activist crowd (e.g., that climate change is a short-term existential threat to mankind). There were also some wealthy, activist KNKX donors that were unhappy with my blog. These climate activists demanded that I talk about "existential climate threats" on KNKX and stop my climate fact checking on my blog. I was a threat to them: knowledgeable, credible, and with access to the media. And they wanted that to end.
     
    Yep, he's one of the bad guys alright, and they are out to get him for this too, not just the Crystal Night comparison. This is an excuse to cancel him for his lack of concensus. It's just sad that even the weather has gotten too controversial for people to discuss calmly.
  8. Frasier 2020- Frasier tries to praise Antifa on his Seattle radio show but ends up misgendering one of the leaders-leading to his penthouse getting burned down during a dinner party

    • Replies: @Escher
    @Senator Brundlefly

    Meanwhile Niles also gets canceled for daring to suggest that Tchaikovsky is superior to Tupac.

  9. He sounds like a nice guy, an intelligent moderate, who was pushed out of public radio for offending the radical left. Read his post on the issue:
    https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2020/08/my-firing-at-knkx.html

    I’ll add his blog to my feed.

  10. Goyishe kopf on this Cliff Mass.

    Kristallnacht, evil Nazis were destroying the property of and beating Jews–a minority.

    Floydnacht, virtuous “mostly peaceful protesters” were destroying the property of and mostly beating white gentiles–a majority–to aid an oppressed minority. (Though to make an omelet some minority eggs got broken as well.)

    There is evil white male (Nazi) violence–property destruction, beating and killing. And then there is virtuous violence–property destruction, beating and killing–to protest oppression by white males. Everyone should be able to understand the difference.

    The ADL should cancel this Cliff Mass Nazi.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @AnotherDad


    Floydnacht, virtuous “mostly peaceful protesters” were destroying the property of and mostly beating white gentiles–a majority–to aid an oppressed minority. (Though to make an omelet some minority eggs got broken as well.)
     
    1.) Jews were affected by, and certainly remain at-risk from the ongoing intensifications of peacefulness.

    2.) Even if Jews were not affected, we should still stand with our fellow citizens (of all racial, religious, ethnic and national backgrounds) who support civilization over savagery.

    3.) (More general sentiment) Jews have been shown extraordinary kindness by a mostly white and mostly Christian United States of America. While appreciating all decent people of good will, we must support this demographic-- the founding core of this country-- against the vicious attack that they and their heritage, legacy, and values (many of which we share) are under.

    Non-Cosmopolitan White Lives Matter! Could be abbreviated to NCW Lives Matter!

  11. “My people”??? His background is probably whiter than 95 percent of all gentile whites. The guy is a millenial living in Seattle. You would think he is fresh of the boat from Munich. The tribalism and flight from white runs deep in these precks.

    • Replies: @Jmaie
    @WJ


    The guy is a millenial living in Seattle.
     
    Guy was born in 1952...
  12. There are other differences too: mainly that Kristalnacht destroyed A LOT of property and injured many people.

    You cant say the same about recent events as annoying as they were.

    This was a comparison made in bad faith, shame on you.

    Even YOU don’t beleive it.

    • Troll: Owen C.
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon


    There are other differences too: mainly that Kristalnacht destroyed A LOT of property and injured many people.

    You cant say the same about recent events as annoying as they were.
     
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/george-floyd-protests-expensive-civil-disturbance-us-history

    Note the "don't really know yet" tone of the article. As far as "injured more people", you have to credit the Black/Black killings to the riots.

    So,yes, somebody made a comparison in bad faith. You.
    , @Hibernian
    @anon

    I believe it.

  13. “Seattle is well worth a Mass.”
    – Benry IV

    • LOL: Cortes
  14. Well, I honestly don’t think Kristallnacht is an appropriate analogy: for one thing, the looting and rioting did not discriminate against shop-owners on the basis of race. For another, it was not covertly planned and organized by the government and police, however much the media turned a blind eye or played the apologist for the rioters.

    But yeah, who, whom.

    >“All these terrible things we’re done to my people … and German people stayed silent,”

    Funnily enough, living in a society where you can disappear without explanation because the regime thinks you might be tempted to commit a political crime-the definition being up to them, of course-tends to tamper down resistance. It was also a society that had been brutalized by a civilizational catastrophe followed by near civil war conditions and economic collapse. Germans became very inured to political violence and authoritarianism between 1914 and 1934-that’s part of what let Nazism happen. Hell, the militant, dualistic revolutionary/order establishing nature of Nazism itself was a product of these conditions.

    (For the record, having had a relative grow up in the Third Reich, I lean toward Volker Ullrich’s interpretation: very few Germans knew everything about the Final Solution or the details about places like Treblinka, but very few knew nothing about what the army and the SS were doing in the East, either, whether to Jews or other occupied peoples. And of course, the Nazis openly publicized “normal” concentration camps like Dachau in the papers in the early years of the regime to warn people of what happened when you crossed them.)

    We’re not there yet, however bad off America is these days. Thank whatever deity exists for that. No thanks to a bipartisan elite that seems to want to do everything to push the country off a cliff.

    • Agree: Dissident, ic1000
    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @nebulafox

    I didn't know anything until fairly recently about the sick, insane, senseless policy of releasing sick elderly to the nursing homes.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Anonymous
    @nebulafox


    We’re not there yet, however bad off America is these days. Thank whatever deity exists for that. No thanks to a bipartisan elite that seems to want to do everything to push the country off a cliff.
     
    The Democrat "vote by mail" is pretty clearly trying to make the next election impossible to decide even after the votes are cast and counted. The plan is pretty simple: destroy Pres. Trump's public image, make the public think that Biden/Harris has the popular vote, then declare victory and get the courts to back up the claim. With no actual election count, the strategy should succeed. Democrats wold accept such a situation as Identical to the Judicial Branch's decision over Pres. Bush's Florida vote, and would also justify it as more fair than Pres. Trump's election in 2016, which they assert was the result of Russian interference.

    If the above plan is successfully implemented, it will (in combination with the Biden/Harris platform) destroy the legitimacy of the US Federal government. That would actually speed the end of subsidies to urban areas, but by very brutal and destructive acts. It would make only minor differences in emphasis to the end state of the process.

    One would hope that the US could reorganize without excessive brutality. The USSR did.

    Replies: @epebble

  15. Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?

    If I want to know the weather outside, I can look out the window.

    If I want to know the weather in Timbuktu, for the next several days, plus a whole bunch of other related data, I can open my WU app.

    Sometimes the weatherman does stand-up comedy (e.g. Letterman), but one doesn’t need to tune in at 10:45 to get a laugh.

    There was once a TV weatherman, on-air in NY for many years, known as “Tex”. One night the lead-in story to his segment was about some rape that had occurred in the city, earlier in the evening.

    Tex began his forecast by reciting an ancient proverb that when a woman is facing an inevitable rape, that she should sit back and enjoy it.

    The next night he issued an apology.

    The following morning he was fired (cancelled).

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Abolish_public_education


    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?

    If I want to know the weather outside, I can look out the window.
     
    That definitely needs memorializing.

    Replies: @Simon Tugmutton

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Abolish_public_education

    That was Tex Antoine, and he was immensely popular.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dan Hayes

    , @Jmaie
    @Abolish_public_education


    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?
     
    Professor Mass teaches atmospheric sciences at the University of Washington with a 40+ year career and a significant research publishing record.

    Replies: @anon

  16. ‘ … if a commentator, even on his own independent platform, delivers rhetoric that is offensive and inaccurate, we cannot support it,’ the station wrote on its website.

    Offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder. As for accuracy, doesn’t kristallnacht mean “night of the broken glass?”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Hibernian

    It literally means "Night of the Crystal" which can be associatively mapped to a night in which broken glass featured prominently.

  17. When they are firing Jews for complaining about actual Nazi/fascist like behavior, that is a bad sign.

    Worth noting: this isn’t being done in some southern/redneck or flyover burg run by Trumpers. Quite the opposite.

    Antifa does have deep German roots after all.

  18. When Hume objected that he couldn’t quite follow Kant’s reasoning in this, Kant famously replied with his trademark crushing logic: White Fragility, lol!

    It’s not for nothing that Moshe Dessauer called him “der alles Zermalmender”

  19. @Abolish_public_education
    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?

    If I want to know the weather outside, I can look out the window.

    If I want to know the weather in Timbuktu, for the next several days, plus a whole bunch of other related data, I can open my WU app.

    Sometimes the weatherman does stand-up comedy (e.g. Letterman), but one doesn’t need to tune in at 10:45 to get a laugh.

    There was once a TV weatherman, on-air in NY for many years, known as “Tex”. One night the lead-in story to his segment was about some rape that had occurred in the city, earlier in the evening.

    Tex began his forecast by reciting an ancient proverb that when a woman is facing an inevitable rape, that she should sit back and enjoy it.

    The next night he issued an apology.

    The following morning he was fired (cancelled).

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Nicholas Stix, @Jmaie

    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?

    If I want to know the weather outside, I can look out the window.

    That definitely needs memorializing.

    • Replies: @Simon Tugmutton
    @Mr McKenna

    My auntie had a lump of what looked like snot pinned to her wall. When it glistened, rain was due. 100% accurate – her washing always dried outdoors! Apparently a bit of Fucus seaweed is almost as good.

  20. @Abolish_public_education
    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?

    If I want to know the weather outside, I can look out the window.

    If I want to know the weather in Timbuktu, for the next several days, plus a whole bunch of other related data, I can open my WU app.

    Sometimes the weatherman does stand-up comedy (e.g. Letterman), but one doesn’t need to tune in at 10:45 to get a laugh.

    There was once a TV weatherman, on-air in NY for many years, known as “Tex”. One night the lead-in story to his segment was about some rape that had occurred in the city, earlier in the evening.

    Tex began his forecast by reciting an ancient proverb that when a woman is facing an inevitable rape, that she should sit back and enjoy it.

    The next night he issued an apology.

    The following morning he was fired (cancelled).

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Nicholas Stix, @Jmaie

    That was Tex Antoine, and he was immensely popular.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Nicholas Stix



    Tex began his forecast by reciting an ancient proverb that when a woman is facing an inevitable rape, that she should sit back and enjoy it.
    The next night he issued an apology.
    The following morning he was fired (cancelled).
     
    That was Tex Antoine, and he was immensely popular.
     
    Ironically, he was perhaps the only man in show business who used a theme song composed by a woman. Well, he and Art Metrano:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ3VULfbxSc&t=27s
    , @Dan Hayes
    @Nicholas Stix

    Unfortunately when he finally returned after many abject apologizes he had lost his nerve and eventually faded away!

  21. @AnotherDad
    Goyishe kopf on this Cliff Mass.

    Kristallnacht, evil Nazis were destroying the property of and beating Jews--a minority.

    Floydnacht, virtuous "mostly peaceful protesters" were destroying the property of and mostly beating white gentiles--a majority--to aid an oppressed minority. (Though to make an omelet some minority eggs got broken as well.)

    There is evil white male (Nazi) violence--property destruction, beating and killing. And then there is virtuous violence--property destruction, beating and killing--to protest oppression by white males. Everyone should be able to understand the difference.

    The ADL should cancel this Cliff Mass Nazi.

    Replies: @Dissident

    Floydnacht, virtuous “mostly peaceful protesters” were destroying the property of and mostly beating white gentiles–a majority–to aid an oppressed minority. (Though to make an omelet some minority eggs got broken as well.)

    1.) Jews were affected by, and certainly remain at-risk from the ongoing intensifications of peacefulness.

    2.) Even if Jews were not affected, we should still stand with our fellow citizens (of all racial, religious, ethnic and national backgrounds) who support civilization over savagery.

    3.) (More general sentiment) Jews have been shown extraordinary kindness by a mostly white and mostly Christian United States of America. While appreciating all decent people of good will, we must support this demographic– the founding core of this country– against the vicious attack that they and their heritage, legacy, and values (many of which we share) are under.

    Non-Cosmopolitan White Lives Matter! Could be abbreviated to NCW Lives Matter!

  22. You gave me not one, but two laughs of the day!

  23. Speaking as someone who’s known real, not the ersatz Nazis of modern manufacture, this sh*t’s getting weird.

    It’s becoming so tiresome. On the one hand we have our enlightened elite who find Nazis everywhere (reminds me of watching those underpaid kids labor at picking the old wolf bones recovered from the Labrea tar pits, or career diamond cutters), and on the other we have illiterate mobs. Always a bad combination.

    Hannah Arendt was right about at least one thing: reality was and is banal. Banality of Progressivism is a title offered free of charge. Lowest common denominator happens.

    As ever everyone wants to over-analyze.

  24. @Nicholas Stix
    @Abolish_public_education

    That was Tex Antoine, and he was immensely popular.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dan Hayes

    Tex began his forecast by reciting an ancient proverb that when a woman is facing an inevitable rape, that she should sit back and enjoy it.
    The next night he issued an apology.
    The following morning he was fired (cancelled).

    That was Tex Antoine, and he was immensely popular.

    Ironically, he was perhaps the only man in show business who used a theme song composed by a woman. Well, he and Art Metrano:

  25. @nebulafox
    Well, I honestly don't think Kristallnacht is an appropriate analogy: for one thing, the looting and rioting did not discriminate against shop-owners on the basis of race. For another, it was not covertly planned and organized by the government and police, however much the media turned a blind eye or played the apologist for the rioters.

    But yeah, who, whom.

    >“All these terrible things we’re done to my people … and German people stayed silent,”

    Funnily enough, living in a society where you can disappear without explanation because the regime thinks you might be tempted to commit a political crime-the definition being up to them, of course-tends to tamper down resistance. It was also a society that had been brutalized by a civilizational catastrophe followed by near civil war conditions and economic collapse. Germans became very inured to political violence and authoritarianism between 1914 and 1934-that's part of what let Nazism happen. Hell, the militant, dualistic revolutionary/order establishing nature of Nazism itself was a product of these conditions.

    (For the record, having had a relative grow up in the Third Reich, I lean toward Volker Ullrich's interpretation: very few Germans knew everything about the Final Solution or the details about places like Treblinka, but very few knew nothing about what the army and the SS were doing in the East, either, whether to Jews or other occupied peoples. And of course, the Nazis openly publicized "normal" concentration camps like Dachau in the papers in the early years of the regime to warn people of what happened when you crossed them.)

    We're not there yet, however bad off America is these days. Thank whatever deity exists for that. No thanks to a bipartisan elite that seems to want to do everything to push the country off a cliff.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Anonymous

    I didn’t know anything until fairly recently about the sick, insane, senseless policy of releasing sick elderly to the nursing homes.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jane Plain


    The sick, insane, senseless policy of releasing sick elderly to the nursing homes.
     
    You seem to have this backwards.

    The intentional murder of many elderly in nursing homes may be sick, but it is neither insane nor senseless. Placing infected patients in nursing homes is the best and quickest way to generate the number and pattern of deaths - spread wide geographically and socially, but largely confined to the aged - that was needed to create the infection PANIC.

    Viewed in this light, the operation - no doubt planned years in advance - yielded fantastic results for its sponsors.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Jane Plain

    Kung Flue patients were not "released to nursing homes." Cuomo forced nursing homes to take them.

    He has the blood of several thousand people on his hands.

  26. Cliff ‘s day job is Professor of Earth and Environmental Sciences at UW. He’s probably the expert on PNW weather/climate, the NPR gig was a side job. While a man-of-the-left, he’s more the old-school liberal type. I’ve been reading his blog posts on PNW weather for years and didn’t even know he was Jewish. If he appears a bit oblivious to cancel culture, it’s probably just because he inhabits almost exclusively leftest environments where that hasn’t been an issue until recently.

    There’s more to it that just that specific blog post…he’s apparently been in the cross-hairs of several of the major KNKX donors over his ‘nuanced’ position on climate change. See here:

    https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2020/08/my-firing-at-knkx.html

  27. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    There are other differences too: mainly that Kristalnacht destroyed A LOT of property and injured many people.

    You cant say the same about recent events as annoying as they were.

    This was a comparison made in bad faith, shame on you.

    Even YOU don't beleive it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian

    There are other differences too: mainly that Kristalnacht destroyed A LOT of property and injured many people.

    You cant say the same about recent events as annoying as they were.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/george-floyd-protests-expensive-civil-disturbance-us-history

    Note the “don’t really know yet” tone of the article. As far as “injured more people”, you have to credit the Black/Black killings to the riots.

    So,yes, somebody made a comparison in bad faith. You.

  28. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox
    Well, I honestly don't think Kristallnacht is an appropriate analogy: for one thing, the looting and rioting did not discriminate against shop-owners on the basis of race. For another, it was not covertly planned and organized by the government and police, however much the media turned a blind eye or played the apologist for the rioters.

    But yeah, who, whom.

    >“All these terrible things we’re done to my people … and German people stayed silent,”

    Funnily enough, living in a society where you can disappear without explanation because the regime thinks you might be tempted to commit a political crime-the definition being up to them, of course-tends to tamper down resistance. It was also a society that had been brutalized by a civilizational catastrophe followed by near civil war conditions and economic collapse. Germans became very inured to political violence and authoritarianism between 1914 and 1934-that's part of what let Nazism happen. Hell, the militant, dualistic revolutionary/order establishing nature of Nazism itself was a product of these conditions.

    (For the record, having had a relative grow up in the Third Reich, I lean toward Volker Ullrich's interpretation: very few Germans knew everything about the Final Solution or the details about places like Treblinka, but very few knew nothing about what the army and the SS were doing in the East, either, whether to Jews or other occupied peoples. And of course, the Nazis openly publicized "normal" concentration camps like Dachau in the papers in the early years of the regime to warn people of what happened when you crossed them.)

    We're not there yet, however bad off America is these days. Thank whatever deity exists for that. No thanks to a bipartisan elite that seems to want to do everything to push the country off a cliff.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Anonymous

    We’re not there yet, however bad off America is these days. Thank whatever deity exists for that. No thanks to a bipartisan elite that seems to want to do everything to push the country off a cliff.

    The Democrat “vote by mail” is pretty clearly trying to make the next election impossible to decide even after the votes are cast and counted. The plan is pretty simple: destroy Pres. Trump’s public image, make the public think that Biden/Harris has the popular vote, then declare victory and get the courts to back up the claim. With no actual election count, the strategy should succeed. Democrats wold accept such a situation as Identical to the Judicial Branch’s decision over Pres. Bush’s Florida vote, and would also justify it as more fair than Pres. Trump’s election in 2016, which they assert was the result of Russian interference.

    If the above plan is successfully implemented, it will (in combination with the Biden/Harris platform) destroy the legitimacy of the US Federal government. That would actually speed the end of subsidies to urban areas, but by very brutal and destructive acts. It would make only minor differences in emphasis to the end state of the process.

    One would hope that the US could reorganize without excessive brutality. The USSR did.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Anonymous

    Here in Portland, USPS is removing mail boxes due to low volume of mailings and it is creating quite a stir.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/08/usps-removes-mailboxes-in-portland-and-eugene-cites-declining-mail-volume.html

    And to add to the excitement:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/usps-turning-off-mail-sorting-machines-ahead-of-the-election-2020-8

  29. A disproportionate number of the looted stores were owned and operated by minorities, including blacks, or by Jews.

  30. @anon
    There are other differences too: mainly that Kristalnacht destroyed A LOT of property and injured many people.

    You cant say the same about recent events as annoying as they were.

    This was a comparison made in bad faith, shame on you.

    Even YOU don't beleive it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian

    I believe it.

  31. @Nicholas Stix
    @Abolish_public_education

    That was Tex Antoine, and he was immensely popular.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dan Hayes

    Unfortunately when he finally returned after many abject apologizes he had lost his nerve and eventually faded away!

  32. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jane Plain
    @nebulafox

    I didn't know anything until fairly recently about the sick, insane, senseless policy of releasing sick elderly to the nursing homes.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob

    The sick, insane, senseless policy of releasing sick elderly to the nursing homes.

    You seem to have this backwards.

    The intentional murder of many elderly in nursing homes may be sick, but it is neither insane nor senseless. Placing infected patients in nursing homes is the best and quickest way to generate the number and pattern of deaths – spread wide geographically and socially, but largely confined to the aged – that was needed to create the infection PANIC.

    Viewed in this light, the operation – no doubt planned years in advance – yielded fantastic results for its sponsors.

    • Agree: El Dato
  33. I was (very briefly) listening to NPR this morning, when the reporter or interviewee (assuming there’s even a difference) informed me that Kamala Harris is such an important nominee because her parents were both immigrants.

    I was so angry I nearly jumped out of a moving car. “This is so damn important!,” I ejaculated. “Why don’t we have someone in the White House this very moment who is the child of immigrants!”

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Wilkey

    The child of an immigrant mother and an American born father (whose parents were immigrants.) The mirror image of my Mom's situation.

  34. @Senator Brundlefly
    Frasier 2020- Frasier tries to praise Antifa on his Seattle radio show but ends up misgendering one of the leaders-leading to his penthouse getting burned down during a dinner party

    Replies: @Escher

    Meanwhile Niles also gets canceled for daring to suggest that Tchaikovsky is superior to Tupac.

    • LOL: Gabe Ruth
  35. @WJ
    "My people"??? His background is probably whiter than 95 percent of all gentile whites. The guy is a millenial living in Seattle. You would think he is fresh of the boat from Munich. The tribalism and flight from white runs deep in these precks.

    Replies: @Jmaie

    The guy is a millenial living in Seattle.

    Guy was born in 1952…

  36. @Abolish_public_education
    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?

    If I want to know the weather outside, I can look out the window.

    If I want to know the weather in Timbuktu, for the next several days, plus a whole bunch of other related data, I can open my WU app.

    Sometimes the weatherman does stand-up comedy (e.g. Letterman), but one doesn’t need to tune in at 10:45 to get a laugh.

    There was once a TV weatherman, on-air in NY for many years, known as “Tex”. One night the lead-in story to his segment was about some rape that had occurred in the city, earlier in the evening.

    Tex began his forecast by reciting an ancient proverb that when a woman is facing an inevitable rape, that she should sit back and enjoy it.

    The next night he issued an apology.

    The following morning he was fired (cancelled).

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Nicholas Stix, @Jmaie

    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?

    Professor Mass teaches atmospheric sciences at the University of Washington with a 40+ year career and a significant research publishing record.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jmaie

    Is he the weatherman I need to tell me which way the wind blows?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  37. @Wilkey
    I was (very briefly) listening to NPR this morning, when the reporter or interviewee (assuming there’s even a difference) informed me that Kamala Harris is such an important nominee because her parents were both immigrants.

    I was so angry I nearly jumped out of a moving car. “This is so damn important!,” I ejaculated. “Why don’t we have someone in the White House this very moment who is the child of immigrants!”

    Replies: @Hibernian

    The child of an immigrant mother and an American born father (whose parents were immigrants.) The mirror image of my Mom’s situation.

  38. @Chrisnonymous
    He's got a post up about it on his blog...
    https://cliffmass.blogspot.com

    Like the activists he says have been opposing for years, I suspect Carl Bergstrom's opinion was pre-ordained.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, Chris. I’ve heard of this guy for years, and I’d thought I remembered he was one of us “deniers” regarding the Global Climate Disruption(TM) hysteria. There was some controversy that went nationwide a few years back, with Cliff Mass involved, but I can’t put my finger on it. This is from his blog (per your link):

    Now I have probably written more papers and done more research on Northwest weather and climate than any other individual. I know the literature. I attend the seminars. I wrote on book on NW weather and climate. I have spent a lifetime learning about it. But a bunch of climate activists, such as groups like 350.org decided they knew better. They were particularly unhappy when I exposed some of the hype and exaggeration promulgated by the activist crowd (e.g., that climate change is a short-term existential threat to mankind). There were also some wealthy, activist KNKX donors that were unhappy with my blog. These climate activists demanded that I talk about “existential climate threats” on KNKX and stop my climate fact checking on my blog. I was a threat to them: knowledgeable, credible, and with access to the media. And they wanted that to end.

    Yep, he’s one of the bad guys alright, and they are out to get him for this too, not just the Crystal Night comparison. This is an excuse to cancel him for his lack of concensus. It’s just sad that even the weather has gotten too controversial for people to discuss calmly.

  39. @Jmaie
    @Abolish_public_education


    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?
     
    Professor Mass teaches atmospheric sciences at the University of Washington with a 40+ year career and a significant research publishing record.

    Replies: @anon

    Is he the weatherman I need to tell me which way the wind blows?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon


    Is he the weatherman I need to tell me which way the wind blows?
     
    I remember those guys. They always got the direction wrong, and not by small errors, either.
  40. @Anonymous
    @nebulafox


    We’re not there yet, however bad off America is these days. Thank whatever deity exists for that. No thanks to a bipartisan elite that seems to want to do everything to push the country off a cliff.
     
    The Democrat "vote by mail" is pretty clearly trying to make the next election impossible to decide even after the votes are cast and counted. The plan is pretty simple: destroy Pres. Trump's public image, make the public think that Biden/Harris has the popular vote, then declare victory and get the courts to back up the claim. With no actual election count, the strategy should succeed. Democrats wold accept such a situation as Identical to the Judicial Branch's decision over Pres. Bush's Florida vote, and would also justify it as more fair than Pres. Trump's election in 2016, which they assert was the result of Russian interference.

    If the above plan is successfully implemented, it will (in combination with the Biden/Harris platform) destroy the legitimacy of the US Federal government. That would actually speed the end of subsidies to urban areas, but by very brutal and destructive acts. It would make only minor differences in emphasis to the end state of the process.

    One would hope that the US could reorganize without excessive brutality. The USSR did.

    Replies: @epebble

  41. You CAN compare illegal immigrant camps to Buchenwald => You MUST DO SOMETHING to bring the Intellectuals’ Dream of Communist Wasteland America nearer every day.

    You CANNOT compare the wreckage wrought by aggressive assholes to Kristallnacht => You CANNOT ANYTHING to delay the Intellectuals’ Dream of Communist Wasteland America. No way.

    Also, these intellectuals have grand-grand-parents whose shops were destroyed during these trouble and they feel grievously micro-aggressed.

  42. @Hibernian

    ' … if a commentator, even on his own independent platform, delivers rhetoric that is offensive and inaccurate, we cannot support it,' the station wrote on its website.
     
    Offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder. As for accuracy, doesn't kristallnacht mean "night of the broken glass?"

    Replies: @El Dato

    It literally means “Night of the Crystal” which can be associatively mapped to a night in which broken glass featured prominently.

  43. @Mr McKenna
    @Abolish_public_education


    Why does anyone pay attention to broadcast weatherman?

    If I want to know the weather outside, I can look out the window.
     
    That definitely needs memorializing.

    Replies: @Simon Tugmutton

    My auntie had a lump of what looked like snot pinned to her wall. When it glistened, rain was due. 100% accurate – her washing always dried outdoors! Apparently a bit of Fucus seaweed is almost as good.

  44. Kierkegaard, who held that truth was not just about discovering objective facts — truth is to be found in subjectivity rather than objectivity — would have told the fool to check his privilege and back away from the keyboard.

  45. @anon
    @Jmaie

    Is he the weatherman I need to tell me which way the wind blows?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Is he the weatherman I need to tell me which way the wind blows?

    I remember those guys. They always got the direction wrong, and not by small errors, either.

  46. @Jane Plain
    @nebulafox

    I didn't know anything until fairly recently about the sick, insane, senseless policy of releasing sick elderly to the nursing homes.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob

    Kung Flue patients were not “released to nursing homes.” Cuomo forced nursing homes to take them.

    He has the blood of several thousand people on his hands.

  47. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Another lesson here.

    It really never works to try to call Blacks, Leftists, Democrats

    “You’re the real Nazis, You’re the real facists, You’re the real Racists”

    I’m feeling that the Trump and most Pence Christian Neo Conservatives, Christian Zionists will try all kinds of pointless ad hominem attacks on Biden and Harris that supposedly

    “Biden was once anti Black racists” (And he did say some sensible things against the worst Black criminals, thugs, rioters in the early 1990s – Good)

    “Harris and Lib Leftist Democrats are anti Israel and thus anti Jewish” (this when Harris is actually married to a filthy rich Hollywood Jew macher and this when American Jews vote 80% plus anti White, Lib Demorat”.

    And then then Lib Jewish entertainment media, Jewish media, Jewish Neo Conservative media will bring out so many good looking young actors and actresses to support voting for Biden Harris because this will supposedly end the Racism and hatred that causes civil unrest and then there will be contrasts to old, bad looking White people in Red States that are angry and hateful

    Really can’t see this working for us.

  48. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    Again, NPR has always been government-funded narrative spinning on behalf of the Democratic Party. They're first president was George McGovern's campaign manager. They are properly shut down.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Art Deco writes:

    “Again, NPR has always been government-funded narrative spinning on behalf of the Democratic Party. They’re first president was George McGovern’s campaign manager. They are properly shut down.”

    I reply:

    Sigh. Those were the days in the early 1980s when we all thought the problem with the terrible media was that it was too much government run, NPR and what was needed was privitization of NPR, the Post Office, privatization of the terrible urban Black public schools – you know the whole Milton Friedman thing.

    Now here we are 40 years later and we’ve learned in HORROR that all the private companies that matter are run by racial, ethnic, sexual groups that HATE us and want our people/culture replaced.

    When the idiot Libertarian loons go along with the WORST anti White BLM, ADL, SPLC tech monopolists and privatize our instate highway system, we won’t be able to drive on the Interstates – Jeff Zucker, Mark Zuckerberg, Cass Sustein, CAIR (Strange Bedfellows there) Black Lives Matter street gang thugs will have guards on the on ramps and those of us who did some terrible sin like saying Jussie Smollett was lying – we’ll be on the no drive list.

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