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Obviously, one of the world’s most extraordinary realities is the percentage of the world’s billionaires who are, more or less, Jewish.

However, extremely little research into this fascinating phenomenon has been published either by academics or by the mainstream media in the U.S. Fortunately, the general understanding that quantifying Jewish wealth is Just Not Done does not extend to Jewish ethnic media, who find the topic, understandably, fascinating.

So most of the lists have instead been compiled by small Jewish media outlets.

For example, while Jews are usually estimated to make up about 0.2% of the world’s population, while this 2018 Jewish Business News article estimates that Jewish billionaires make up about two orders of magnitude higher of a percentage (19%) of the Forbes‘ list of the top 200 richest people in the world.

(By the way, this 19% estimate for the world’s top 200 is comparable to but slightly less than my 2011 estimate that 23% of all Nobel laureates in the three hard science categories — one of the more legit measures of contribution — have been Jewish. So we are talking about a small group with a broad range of impressive talents and accomplishments.)

But the fact that only small Jewish ethnic outlets will publicly county Jewish billionaires means the quality control of such estimates is usually not high. For instance, just by eyeballing the following list, I can identify a number of problems with it.

Of course, any such lists raise questions both of accuracy and of how to categorize billionaires of mixed ancestry.

From Jewish Business News:

Jews Make-Up 19% Of Forbes 200 World’s Richest List

Jews are disproportionately represented on the roster of the richest business people, with 10 Jews among the top 50 (20%), and 38 (19%) Jews among first 200 world’s wealthiest. …

Forbes pinned down 259 newcomers from 227 billion a year ago, among them are a few Jews: Russ Weiner, 48, worth $4.4 billion, the founder and CEO of Rockstar energy drinks; Jerry Reinsdorf, 82, owner of the NBA’s Chicago Bulls and the MLB’s Chicago White Sox. He started his professional life as a tax attorney with the Internal Revenue Service, and Ken Grossman, 63, worth $1 billion, a co-founder of the Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. Weiner is the son of conservative radio talk show host Michael Savage (born Michael Weiner).

Jewish Women the list including Shari Arison ($4.4 billion), Karen Pritzker ($4.3 billion), Lynn Schusterman ($3.7 billion) and Doris Fisher ($3.2 billion) and Sheryl Sandberg ($1 billion)

Two well knows Jewish figures are among the first 10th of world richest. (1-10):

#5 Mark Zuckerberg, 33, (Facebook) with $71 billion

#10 Larry Ellison, 73, (Oracle) with $58.5 billion.

To be technical, Larry Ellison is half Jewish by nature (born during WWII, he is the biological son of an Italian-American military pilot and a Jewish-American teenager) and all Jewish by nurture (he was raised by his biological mother’s aunt and uncle). My rule of thumb is to divvy up nature and nurture 50-50, so that would make Ellison 3/4ths Jewish. Your mileage may differ, however.

Three Jewish businessmen rank in the second 10th (10-20):

#11 Michael Bloomberg, 76, (Bloomberg LP) with $50 billion

#12 Larry Page, 44, (Google) with $48.8 billion

Page is definitely Jewish on his mother’s side. But his father’s side is unclear.

#13 Sergey Brin, 44, (Google) with $47.5 billion.

Ranked 20-50

#21 Sheldon Adelson, 84, (Casinos) with $38.5 billion

#22 Steve Ballmer, 61, (Microsoft) with $38.4 billion.

Ballmer’s mother was of Jewish ancestry, his father was not.

#36 Joseph Safra, 79, (banking) with $23.5 million [billion]

#39 Michael Dell, 53 (Dell computers) with $22.7 billion

#48 Len Blavatnik, 60 (diversified) with $20.2 billion.

Ranked 50-200

#52 James Simons, 79 (hedge funds) with $20 billion

#64 Leonid Mikhelson, 62 (gas, chemicals) with $18 billion

#69 Gina Rinehart, 64, (mining) with $17.4 billion

A different article in Jewish Business News says that Rinehart is not Jewish.

#73 Carl Icahn, 82 (Investments) with $16.8 billion

#83 Vladimir Potanin, 57, (metals) with $15.9 billion

#88 David & Simon Reuben (investments, real estate) with $15.5 billion

#93 Mikhail Fridman, 53, (oil, banking, telecom) $15.1 billion

#99 Viktor Vekselberg, 60, (metals, energy) $14.4 billion

#102 Steve Cohen, 61, (hedge funds) with $14 billion

#102 Dustin Moskovitz, 33, (Facebook) with $14 billion

#108 Philip Anschutz, 78, (investments) with $13 billion

I believe Anschutz is a Protestant of German ethnicity. It’s common for people, Jews and gentiles alike, to assume that anybody rich and/or smart with a Germanic-sounding name must be Jewish. But, actually, gentile Germans are also a fairly high achieving group.

#108 Alain Wertheimer, 69, (Chanel) with $13 billion

#108 Gerard Wertheimer, 67, (Chanel) with $13 billion

#113 Leonard Lauder, 80, (Estee Lauder) with $12.9 billion

#116 Hasso Plattner, 74, (software) with $12.7 billion

#117 Stephen Schwarzman, 71, (investments) $12.6 billion

#138 David Tepper, 60, (hedge funds) with $11 billion

#140 Roman Abramovich, 51, (steel, investments) with $10.8 billion

#148 Eduardo Saverin, 35, (Facebook) with $10.1 billion

#152 German Khan, 56, (oil, banking, telecom) with $9.8 billion

#152 Ronald Perelman, 75, (leveraged buyouts) with $9.8 billion

#154 Micky Arison, 68, (Carnival Cruises) with $9.7 billion

#158 Mikhail Prokhorov, 52, (investments) $9.6 billion

#167 Harry Triguboff, 82, (real estate) with $9.2 billion

#170 Jan Koum, 42, (WhatsApp) with $9.1 billion

#186 Xavier Niel, 50, (internet, telecom) with $8.1 billion

#190 David Geffen, 75, (movies, record labels) with $8 billion

#190 George Soros, 87, (hedge funds) $8 billion

#202 Nicky Oppenheimer, 72, (diamonds) with $7.7 billion

I suspect the current heir to the old DeBeers fortune is only 1/2 Jewish by this point.

So this list includes some people who don’t appear to be Jewish at all and others who are mixed. On the other hand, this list may have missed several individuals who are either completely Jewish or part Jewish, especially on their mother’s side.

So the general rule of thumb that Jews are over-represented among the world’s richest by more than one and approaching two orders of magnitude appears to be valid.

One might think that this data would discourage Jewish journalists from going on and on about “white privilege” on the prudent principle that those who live in glass mansions shouldn’t throw bricks. But, on the other hand, how often do the gentile masses ever think about Jewish wealth and its implications? That’s just Not a Topic in the Narrative.

 
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  1. Jews also comprise about 25 – 30% of Fields Medal winners; Nu?

  2. Russ Weiner, 48, worth $4.4 billion, the founder and CEO of Rockstar energy drinks … Weiner is the son of conservative radio talk show host Michael Savage (born Michael Weiner).

    Yup.

  3. The richest Russian woman in the world is an interesting story, and I think she is not Jewish by birth, despite her name (which is from her first husband).

    She is called Margarita Dreyfus (after her husband), and from a poor, gangster family – when she was a small girl, both her parents (who were criminals) died in a car catastrophe, and she was in an orphanage.

    She married a French oligarch/businessman, who later died – making her inherit CEO position of his company.

    She has 5 children. After she remarried again, she gave birth to twin girls at age 54.

    On the son’s instagram, you can see the 57 year old CEO woman, really has twin infants.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWF-YHgFcOU/

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Dmitry

    Probably a relation to Julia Louis-Dreyfus and a member of the very wealthy Dreyfus clan of France.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9opold_Louis-Dreyfus?wprov=sfti1

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Hail
    @Dmitry

    Twin infants at 57? How?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anon, @IHTG, @Alden

  4. I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn’t allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be “rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear” of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of “Jewish money”. which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don’t you so called HBD guys believe in this). That’s why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    • Troll: Hail, IHTG, Monsieur le Baron
    • Replies: @SFG
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Honestly, if it wasn't for the leftism, I doubt anyone here would care.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Peterike
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    “I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.”

    Uh huh. Try harder next time.

    , @BenKenobi
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Why oh why does Steve allow bait like this through moderation?

    Replies: @SFG, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Jon

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous Jewish girl


    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich. First, you didn’t allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses, Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
     
    Do you think that calling people "Christ suckers" might have something to do with it? Anyway, the story you recite is the usual tale of woe and oppression. Do you think it likely that people emigrated from the Near East all the way up to central Europe to NOT own farms and cattle? Or did they travel there to get into the lucrative usury business? Middle-man minorities move to places that offer them middle-man opportunities.

    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be “rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear” of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of “Jewish money”. which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
     
    So-called "anti-semitism" is a charge that increasingly seems to have less to do with hating Jews than in simply noticing jewish wealth, power, influence, and the consequences those have for gentiles in our own societies.
    , @anon
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Lol. Quack?

    , @Monsieur Psychosis
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    another Tiny sockpuppet

    , @MBlanc46
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Be as successful as you want. Just do it in your own country.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    '... Antisemitism nowadays seems to be “rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear” of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of “Jewish money”. which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories...'

    So it would be your position that money does not translate into power?

    , @indocon
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    "also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators"

    Pretty soon, you will find yourself in a country of only yourself and POC's, enjoy, and better have a plane to deal with them.

    Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker, @Don't Look at Me

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous Jewish girl


    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.
     
    So grandpa-- or great-grandpa, if you're comfortable with "girl"-- voted for FDR four times. Evidence enough of poor assimilation into America.
    , @yani_the_elder7
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Jewish genius is an ever declining phenomenon in both the artistic and scientific realms. As the former goes, Jews no longer dominate the ranks of literatteurs, conductors, musical performers, composers etc. with anywhere near the statistical disproportion they once did. As the latter goes, your common gamut of Perelman's, Schwarz's and Rosenfeld's are being rapidly displaced by Shu's, Chen's and Zhai's at competitions like the International Mathematics Olympiad. The Jewish breeding patterns which engendered Ashkenazi greatness appear to be dissipating. Politically, in the West, Jews are actively undermining the hand which feeds them. Geopolitically, Jewish influence will flounder under the ascendancy of rising, amoral powers commanding vastly greater populations which are indifferent to the Jewish project. Five hundred years from now, in broader historical relief, Jewish success from 1800 to today will be viewed like Nazi military success at the beginning of WWII, as the transient propulsion of a people punching above their weight, doomed to revert to the mean.

    Replies: @houston 1992, @Jack D, @B36

    , @anon
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    because your power is pure poison for the interest of europeans and our nation as a whole specially those white working class people(non white working class too) that your kind denigrate 24 h/d by all the factual power
    compare the wasp america with his noblese oblige of 1960s where the working class people have a secure living with a desindustrialized giant financial ponzi scheme that america has became ,million of inmigant destroying the salaries of the working class ,the cohesive society its over the same as the social structures like stable marriage that had very positive effect specially in poor people that jews worked so hard to abolish and the result are obvious decrease in life expectancy ,white working class suicides all time high ,opium reaching pandemic levels.......

    nobody has done more than jews to destroy the white working class

    , @Hibernian
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Tiny Duck masquerading as a Jewish woman? Will he sing "People who need people, are the luckiest people in the world?"

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @anon
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    little parrot

    who brought the slaves?
    https://imgur.com/a/DR7EzGh

    who owned the slaves?

    https://imgur.com/a/B5830zj

    who liberated the slaves?

    https://imgur.com/a/tLHFkRT


    you dont give a shit about those poor blacks hispanic native americans ......you only use them as a pawn to destroy us .

    the only thing have you have brought to america and the west as whole is division and hate , the hate and envy you have cultivated for the success of milenial european incredible achieviments converting your biggest masturbatory fantasy in reality while you grasp desperately to the ethno supremacist religion that judaism acumulating a milenial hate and envy.

    , @Moses
    @Anonymous Jewish girl


    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people
     
    I think you answered your own question with this post.

    Thank you, drive thru.
  5. @Dmitry
    The richest Russian woman in the world is an interesting story, and I think she is not Jewish by birth, despite her name (which is from her first husband).

    She is called Margarita Dreyfus (after her husband), and from a poor, gangster family - when she was a small girl, both her parents (who were criminals) died in a car catastrophe, and she was in an orphanage.

    She married a French oligarch/businessman, who later died - making her inherit CEO position of his company.

    She has 5 children. After she remarried again, she gave birth to twin girls at age 54.

    On the son's instagram, you can see the 57 year old CEO woman, really has twin infants.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWF-YHgFcOU/

    Replies: @Ed, @Hail

    Probably a relation to Julia Louis-Dreyfus and a member of the very wealthy Dreyfus clan of France.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9opold_Louis-Dreyfus?wprov=sfti1

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Ed

    Yes, Dreyfus is obviously a famous Jewish bourgeois family in France - it was centre of the 19th century Dreyfus Affair.

    A legal case against one representative of this family - Alfred Dreyfus - was the antisemitic cause célèbre of 19th century Europe.

    -

    Margarita Dreyfus received the name from her second marriage (her original name is Bogdanova) - she is just a Cinderella story.

    I misreported a little in my comment.

    She says her parents were killed in a train catastrophe, but in reality she grew up in the orphanage as her parents were imprisoned multiple times for belonging to robbery gangs and hooliganism.

    Finally, after her mother had many imprisonments, her grandfather informed to the police that his daughter stole a clock from their buildings, and she (her mother) was sent to a prison colony, and died a few months after leaving that prison colony.

    Margarita graduated from a school for orphan children, then technical institute and worked as a waitress. In the 1980-s , she married a Swiss driver called Gerspacher, emigrated to Switzerland, and then divorced him, and married the French billionaire in 1992, who died, and she inherited his business: girl from an orphanage is now one of the most powerful businesswomen in the world with almost $10 billion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGBCR-k1aWs

  6. Hasso Plattner is not Jewish.Nor as far as I can tell is Xavier Niel.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @kaganovitch

    SAP co-founder Hasso Plattner is a descendant of the Christian Donau Schwaben in Rumania.

  7. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    Honestly, if it wasn’t for the leftism, I doubt anyone here would care.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @SFG


    Honestly, if it wasn’t for the leftism, I doubt anyone here would care.
     
    And not even traditional downtrodden-working-man leftism. Not too many gentiles are excited about Jewish thoughts/ideology/media about minimum wage or "medicare for all". There have been plenty of gentiles pushing for welfare state benefits or even--back in the day--socialism.

    No this is about minoritarianism. Jews sneering contempt and attacks on white gentiles' traditional norms, values, culture and their very existence as peoples and nations.

    And any American use of "anti-Semitism" is simply Jewish propaganda against gentiles who notice this Jewish behavior.
  8. I knew a guy online who said he was a cousin of Larry Page on his father’s side and he said that Page’s father’s family was not Jewish.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Flip

    Thanks.

    Larry Page's paternal grandfather was an autoworker and labor organizer. He is said to have hated religion (or maybe that was Larry's dad, the comp sci professor). I could imagine the Pages coming out of the gentile socialist labor movement, which is largely forgotten today, but was pretty important in the past.

    Replies: @a reader

  9. if there is one recurrent theme of jewish history it’s that after a while, the goyim tend to become aware.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @bigdicknick

    That awareness seems to be growing exponentially, although from a small base.

  10. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    “I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.”

    Uh huh. Try harder next time.

  11. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    Why oh why does Steve allow bait like this through moderation?

    • Replies: @SFG
    @BenKenobi

    Entertainment value?

    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    @BenKenobi

    He lets bullshit like that through but flushes comments I make pretty often, the last one being a sexual reference to the Iraqi pederast welfare cheat, IIRC.

    Just like every other civic nationalist in the world, his standards of decency depend on the identity of the person challenging them. Annoying.

    , @Jon
    @BenKenobi

    Yet you responded to this obvious bait.

  12. Anonymous[275] • Disclaimer says:

    Good luck figuring out what people actually own, control and what it is really worth.

    If it is hard to figure out the value of Trump’s assets, it must be ten times harder for some of the names on this list.

    For example, one of VP Biden’s son’s many foreign bosses is Ihor Kolomoisky, a Jewish oligarch from Ukraine, who may be exiled to Israel and owns, I think, Burisma.

    Estimates of his worth seem to be all over the place.

    He shares lawyers with the Jewish president of Ukraine.

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/05/r-hunter-biden-declare-owns-new-ukrainian-employer-burisma-holdings.html

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi

    If, as seems to be the case, the Russia collusion hoax, the Ukrainegate impeachment inquiry and whatever Nadler comes up with in the senate once Schiff’s thing falls apart are actually an effort to hide Obama era corruption in the Ukraine, then some of these conspiracy theories may not be theories.

  13. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich. First, you didn’t allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses, Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.

    Do you think that calling people “Christ suckers” might have something to do with it? Anyway, the story you recite is the usual tale of woe and oppression. Do you think it likely that people emigrated from the Near East all the way up to central Europe to NOT own farms and cattle? Or did they travel there to get into the lucrative usury business? Middle-man minorities move to places that offer them middle-man opportunities.

    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be “rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear” of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of “Jewish money”. which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.

    So-called “anti-semitism” is a charge that increasingly seems to have less to do with hating Jews than in simply noticing jewish wealth, power, influence, and the consequences those have for gentiles in our own societies.

  14. Only 19%?

  15. Clear that a lot of billions were made (siphoned off) in the rape of Soviet Union economy. Thank you Larry Summers.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Daniel H

    Yeah, I would try to lose those names off the list if I ran a Jewish news outlet.

    , @lavoisier
    @Daniel H


    Clear that a lot of billions were made (siphoned off) in the rape of Soviet Union economy. Thank you Larry Summers.
     
    One of the richest Jewish individuals on the list, Zuckerberg, ripped off the idea for Facebook from the people who had hired him to work for them! How about that for loyalty.

    Lots of thieves on this list and more a reflection of immorality and an ability to "pull a fast one" than creativity and genius.

    And Nobel Prizes in the hard sciences require being in a position with adequate funding to make those seminal discoveries. If you think ethnic networking plays no role in getting access to research dollars you are sadly very mistaken.

    Sorry Steve.

    I acknowledge Jewish talent and hard work. But ethnic networking and an ability to cast ethics aside in pursuit of personal ambition is at much at work here as talent.

    Replies: @LondonBob

  16. Sorta OT, but speaking of World’s Richest Jews, Bloomberg is now formally in the race.

    The current political class in the US has shown itself incapable of governing, yet has itself entrenched like a parasite on the levers of power. Having people like Trump and Bloomberg, with real world success and accomplishments, in politics, is good for the country. Hope they can continue to purge the country of political aristocrats like the Bushs, Biden, Pelosi and the Clintons.

  17. @Flip
    I knew a guy online who said he was a cousin of Larry Page on his father’s side and he said that Page’s father’s family was not Jewish.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

    Larry Page’s paternal grandfather was an autoworker and labor organizer. He is said to have hated religion (or maybe that was Larry’s dad, the comp sci professor). I could imagine the Pages coming out of the gentile socialist labor movement, which is largely forgotten today, but was pretty important in the past.

    • Replies: @a reader
    @Steve Sailer


    Like his partner, Sergey Brin, Larry comes from Jewish heritage. Page's maternal grandfather immigrated to Israel, where he lived in a desert town near the Dead Sea, and worked as a tool-and-die maker. Larry's mother was raised in the Jewish faith, but his father was too scientific for much religion. His focus was on the world of technology.
     
    Google Speaks: Secrets of the World's Greatest Billionaire Entrepreneurs, Sergey Brin and Larry Page. Lowe, Janet (April 22, 2009). p.22

    This book can be borrowed here.

  18. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Lol. Quack?

  19. @BenKenobi
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Why oh why does Steve allow bait like this through moderation?

    Replies: @SFG, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Jon

    Entertainment value?

  20. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews are 2 percent of Americans, not 0.2 percent. I think the best metric is what percentage of Americans (and citizens of Americanesque countries) are Jewish, not what percent of Africans, Indians, et al. are Jewish. So that is 1 SD, not 2, still big.

    Rich people in developing countries become so due to nepotism and the like. If the country isn’t basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there. And yet they will have billionaires even if the country is full of numbskulls because of natural resources, utility companies, and so on.

    In the U.S. every group has a chance, a reasonably equal chance in my opinion, but at least a chance. So the ethnicity has meaning and you can ask Why?

    The 2 percent figure for Jews is a guess, because there is no census question for it. Pew is generally the source, 2.2 percent, which combines self-identified religious-ancestral Jews and self-identified atheist-ancestral Jews. It excludes ancestral Christian Jews who practice Judaism (there are more than you think!) and it excludes ancestral Jews who practice Christianity. (I’m not sure where Christians officially “converted” to Judaism fall in Pew’s scheme.) When you add up all four varieties of Pew Jews, it exceeds 4 percent of the population.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anon


    If the country isn’t basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there.
     
    One of the billionaires listed there, Joseph Safra, is a Brazilian Jew. Jews comprise something like 0.6% of Brazil’s population. I think his ancestors were involved in caravan trading in the Middle East going back centuries.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    Jews are 2 percent of Americans, not 0.2 percent. I think the best metric is what percentage of Americans (and citizens of Americanesque countries) are Jewish, not what percent of Africans, Indians, et al. are Jewish. So that is 1 SD, not 2, still big.
     
    This is poking at what i think is a critical point here.

    Jews--the Ashenazi--seem to be about 2/3 or 3/4 of an SD above generic white Anglo-Germanic gentiles in IQ. (110-112 seems to be the ballpark--skewing heavily verbal and math-numeric with nothing much going on in visio-spatial.) Plus they have some other psychological traits--not all pleasant--that are useful for business success, and their Jewish cultural package, and of course connections and ethnic-nepotism. All this seems to be worth about an order of magnitude boost in business success relative to generic white gentiles.

    Where the other order of magnitude comes from is two things:
    1) the smaller, is that a lot of Jewish sharpies were around for the distribution/looting of the old Soviet Union
    but
    2) much larger, is that Jews were in America, which was the richest nation in the world by the dawn of the 20th century (i.e. before most Jews even showed up), came out of the War with 40% of the world's GDP, was far and away it's center of technology and innovation and has a freer or individualist system (compared to say Japan or Germany) more conducive to entrepreneurship and accumulating individual wealth.

    Take a guy like Bloomberg. Obviously a smart, hustling guy who saw a market opportunity and devised a scheme to get rich filling it. However, Bloomy would be nothing, a nobody, but for the fact that Wall Street is the financial center attached to big sprawling, high-IQ, productive, gentile America.

    Tremendous good fortune for Bloomberg, allowing him to make a great fortune. But is Bloomberg actually loyal to the vast millions of white gentile Americans who've made his wealth possible? No, he is not.

    Bloomberg's case--and the others like it--answers the "why do Jews punch two orders of magnitude better?" question.

    America has been very, very, very good to the Jews. But have Jews been very good for America? No.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @a reader
    @Anon


    If the country isn’t basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there.
     
    Haiti has no more than 50 Jews out of a total population of 8.5 million.

    That's 0,0006%.

    One of those is Gilbert Bigio.
  21. Anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:

    “I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.”

    Maybe it’s the relentless Jewish-funded, Jewish-formulated political attack on the First Amendment.

    Maybe it’s the relentless Jewish-funded, Jewish-formulated political attack on the Second Amendment.

    Maybe it’s the mass blackmailing and bribery of the U.S. Congress and the repurposing of our military to fight endless wars and police actions for Israel.

    I could go on.

  22. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:

    Important to note that though Steve makes a distinction between half Jews for the purposes of posing nature/nurture questions, one tends to find half Jews (And even beyond, particularly if it’s patrilineal ancestry) identifying as Jewish and such persons also have social access to Jewish social networks.

    “I’m half Jewish and half nothing” as the joke goes.

    • Replies: @Monsieur Psychosis
    @Altai

    Exactly right.

    This seems to have eluded Kevin MacDonald, though. Whenever someone asks him about half Jews he makes some nonsense point about how Jewry is a series of concentric rings with rabbis at the center. He's a weird mix of insightful and retarded.

    Replies: @Amerimutt Golems

    , @Dmitry
    @Altai

    Similar joke to the film Goodfellas:

    https://youtu.be/rfrpmF1GzC0?t=12

  23. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    another Tiny sockpuppet

  24. Anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:

    Related topic:

    Very wealthy hostile Jewish nutcase Sasha Baron Cohen’s recent ADL award speech diatribe audio version is much worse than the print version.

    The audio features his natural voice which many I’m sure have never heard before. It is an annoying upper class English accent. Not British. Very much English. Lord of the Manor bullshit.

    This accent makes the content of his hugely insulting speech that much harder to take. Like we should tolerate a damn foreigner who comes here and demands the mass arrest of various American tech and media people for TOO MUCH FREE SPEECH. Sure. And then it’s not just any foreigner but a psycho redcoat snob from the Jewish section of London? WTF.

    • Agree: houston 1992
  25. @BenKenobi
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Why oh why does Steve allow bait like this through moderation?

    Replies: @SFG, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Jon

    He lets bullshit like that through but flushes comments I make pretty often, the last one being a sexual reference to the Iraqi pederast welfare cheat, IIRC.

    Just like every other civic nationalist in the world, his standards of decency depend on the identity of the person challenging them. Annoying.

    • Agree: Herbert West
  26. ‘… But, on the other hand, how often do the gentile masses ever think about Jewish wealth and its implications? That’s just Not a Topic in the Narrative.’

    ‘Jewish power is the ability to prevent the discussion of Jewish power.’

    Gilad Atzmon (words approximate)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Colin Wright

    And yet here you are talking about it.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Colin Wright

  27. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    Be as successful as you want. Just do it in your own country.

  28. @Altai
    Important to note that though Steve makes a distinction between half Jews for the purposes of posing nature/nurture questions, one tends to find half Jews (And even beyond, particularly if it's patrilineal ancestry) identifying as Jewish and such persons also have social access to Jewish social networks.

    "I'm half Jewish and half nothing" as the joke goes.

    Replies: @Monsieur Psychosis, @Dmitry

    Exactly right.

    This seems to have eluded Kevin MacDonald, though. Whenever someone asks him about half Jews he makes some nonsense point about how Jewry is a series of concentric rings with rabbis at the center. He’s a weird mix of insightful and retarded.

    • Replies: @Amerimutt Golems
    @Monsieur Psychosis

    You mean like Scarlett Johansson and her support for Israeli colonies in the West Bank?

  29. ‘I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich…’

    There’s a certain irony in this not being a very intelligent post.

  30. @bigdicknick
    if there is one recurrent theme of jewish history it's that after a while, the goyim tend to become aware.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    That awareness seems to be growing exponentially, although from a small base.

  31. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    ‘… Antisemitism nowadays seems to be “rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear” of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of “Jewish money”. which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories…’

    So it would be your position that money does not translate into power?

    • LOL: Rosie
  32. 36 Joseph Safra, 79, (banking) with $23.5 million.

    million is typo. suggest you edit and then delete this post

  33. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    “also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators”

    Pretty soon, you will find yourself in a country of only yourself and POC’s, enjoy, and better have a plane to deal with them.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    @indocon

    Canadian Jews still push for open borders, even though Muslims now outnumber Jews 4-1, and are growing in radicalization.

    Their built in hatred of European Christians is simply too great. It's a genetic thing, they are hard wired this way.

    , @Don't Look at Me
    @indocon

    "better have a plane to deal with them."

    I recommend the B-2 bomber.

  34. @Ed
    @Dmitry

    Probably a relation to Julia Louis-Dreyfus and a member of the very wealthy Dreyfus clan of France.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9opold_Louis-Dreyfus?wprov=sfti1

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Yes, Dreyfus is obviously a famous Jewish bourgeois family in France – it was centre of the 19th century Dreyfus Affair.

    A legal case against one representative of this family – Alfred Dreyfus – was the antisemitic cause célèbre of 19th century Europe.

    Margarita Dreyfus received the name from her second marriage (her original name is Bogdanova) – she is just a Cinderella story.

    I misreported a little in my comment.

    She says her parents were killed in a train catastrophe, but in reality she grew up in the orphanage as her parents were imprisoned multiple times for belonging to robbery gangs and hooliganism.

    Finally, after her mother had many imprisonments, her grandfather informed to the police that his daughter stole a clock from their buildings, and she (her mother) was sent to a prison colony, and died a few months after leaving that prison colony.

    Margarita graduated from a school for orphan children, then technical institute and worked as a waitress. In the 1980-s , she married a Swiss driver called Gerspacher, emigrated to Switzerland, and then divorced him, and married the French billionaire in 1992, who died, and she inherited his business: girl from an orphanage is now one of the most powerful businesswomen in the world with almost $10 billion.

  35. @Dmitry
    The richest Russian woman in the world is an interesting story, and I think she is not Jewish by birth, despite her name (which is from her first husband).

    She is called Margarita Dreyfus (after her husband), and from a poor, gangster family - when she was a small girl, both her parents (who were criminals) died in a car catastrophe, and she was in an orphanage.

    She married a French oligarch/businessman, who later died - making her inherit CEO position of his company.

    She has 5 children. After she remarried again, she gave birth to twin girls at age 54.

    On the son's instagram, you can see the 57 year old CEO woman, really has twin infants.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWF-YHgFcOU/

    Replies: @Ed, @Hail

    Twin infants at 57? How?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail

    54, not 57. So she was impregnated at 53. Perhaps she had her eggs frozen. (A lot of them, as it doesn't always take. But cost is no obstacle.)

    She's older, but she's clearly not wasting away in Margaritaville.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @anon
    @Hail

    Sam Snead was born 5/27/1912, and both his parents were born before the Civil War, making them both at least 51 at the time.
    So, it's not common, but it's not impossible, by any means.

    , @IHTG
    @Hail

    Twins at that age is an obvious tell for fertility treatments. Common phenomenon in Israel.

    Replies: @Flip

    , @Alden
    @Hail

    Another miracle of modern medicine. She may have had a few eggs left. May have had them frozen earlier. Someone else’s eggs, someone else’s sperm there are various methods.

    Great face lift though. See how natural her eyes look?

  36. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    So grandpa– or great-grandpa, if you’re comfortable with “girl”– voted for FDR four times. Evidence enough of poor assimilation into America.

  37. @Hail
    @Dmitry

    Twin infants at 57? How?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anon, @IHTG, @Alden

    54, not 57. So she was impregnated at 53. Perhaps she had her eggs frozen. (A lot of them, as it doesn’t always take. But cost is no obstacle.)

    She’s older, but she’s clearly not wasting away in Margaritaville.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Reg Cæsar

    Also she had twins - twins are far more common with IVF, than normal pregnancy. Sometimes they implant multiple embryos, but even with single embryo implanted, twins are much more common as a result of an IVF process compared to natural pregnancy.

  38. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    Jewish genius is an ever declining phenomenon in both the artistic and scientific realms. As the former goes, Jews no longer dominate the ranks of literatteurs, conductors, musical performers, composers etc. with anywhere near the statistical disproportion they once did. As the latter goes, your common gamut of Perelman’s, Schwarz’s and Rosenfeld’s are being rapidly displaced by Shu’s, Chen’s and Zhai’s at competitions like the International Mathematics Olympiad. The Jewish breeding patterns which engendered Ashkenazi greatness appear to be dissipating. Politically, in the West, Jews are actively undermining the hand which feeds them. Geopolitically, Jewish influence will flounder under the ascendancy of rising, amoral powers commanding vastly greater populations which are indifferent to the Jewish project. Five hundred years from now, in broader historical relief, Jewish success from 1800 to today will be viewed like Nazi military success at the beginning of WWII, as the transient propulsion of a people punching above their weight, doomed to revert to the mean.

    • Agree: houston 1992, Duke84
    • Replies: @houston 1992
    @yani_the_elder7

    Jews tend to marry WASP elites. How do the children perform? ..How do the Ivies rate winning spelling bees, music recitals etc? if they dont matter for admission,, then maybe Jews, WASPs are correct to let their kids find themselves.
    As others have noted, Asians are not dominating the top positions after graduate school so maybe they are investing too much into the wrong vehicles?

    Replies: @anon

    , @Jack D
    @yani_the_elder7

    500 years from now we'll all be dead. Nothing is permanent - the glories of Rome, the Spanish Empire - they are all gone with the wind. But Jew had one hell of a century (the 20th), both good and bad. 500 years from now, the 20th century will be seen as the most consequential century for Jews since the 1st.

    , @B36
    @yani_the_elder7

    Also, what happened to all the Jewish doctors? Sometimes it looks like half the doctors in our community are Indian or Pakistani now.

    Replies: @nymom

  39. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail

    54, not 57. So she was impregnated at 53. Perhaps she had her eggs frozen. (A lot of them, as it doesn't always take. But cost is no obstacle.)

    She's older, but she's clearly not wasting away in Margaritaville.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Also she had twins – twins are far more common with IVF, than normal pregnancy. Sometimes they implant multiple embryos, but even with single embryo implanted, twins are much more common as a result of an IVF process compared to natural pregnancy.

  40. @Anon
    Jews are 2 percent of Americans, not 0.2 percent. I think the best metric is what percentage of Americans (and citizens of Americanesque countries) are Jewish, not what percent of Africans, Indians, et al. are Jewish. So that is 1 SD, not 2, still big.

    Rich people in developing countries become so due to nepotism and the like. If the country isn't basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there. And yet they will have billionaires even if the country is full of numbskulls because of natural resources, utility companies, and so on.

    In the U.S. every group has a chance, a reasonably equal chance in my opinion, but at least a chance. So the ethnicity has meaning and you can ask Why?

    The 2 percent figure for Jews is a guess, because there is no census question for it. Pew is generally the source, 2.2 percent, which combines self-identified religious-ancestral Jews and self-identified atheist-ancestral Jews. It excludes ancestral Christian Jews who practice Judaism (there are more than you think!) and it excludes ancestral Jews who practice Christianity. (I'm not sure where Christians officially "converted" to Judaism fall in Pew's scheme.) When you add up all four varieties of Pew Jews, it exceeds 4 percent of the population.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @AnotherDad, @a reader

    If the country isn’t basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there.

    One of the billionaires listed there, Joseph Safra, is a Brazilian Jew. Jews comprise something like 0.6% of Brazil’s population. I think his ancestors were involved in caravan trading in the Middle East going back centuries.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    Yes, and there are groups like the Ibo.

    The point is that on the whole Steve's 0.2 percent starting point produces silly results given the different conditions in different sorts of countries. Jews are not by nature, or nurture, of their Jewyness sigma 2 above gentiles in their ability to become outlier far right tail rich, or else there would be ten times the number of such Jews in the U.S. I think the offset in IQ is probably about the same as the offset in getting-rich-ability.

  41. “ My rule of thumb is to divvy up nature and nurture 50-50, so that would make Ellison 3/4ths Jewish.”

    Steve downgrades himself and me from 1/2 Jew to 1/4 Jew. Maybe that’s why we aren’t rich.

    How much are Scotsmen and Lebanese Christians overrepresented?

  42. richest Russian woman

    However, media doesn’t refer to Dreyfus as the richest Russian woman. She emigrated while the USSR still existed, and in that time it required that people renounce their citizenship to attain a new country’s citizenship.

    And although her company has French origins, Dreyfus is not reported for richest people in France
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_billionaires_by_net_worth

    The richest Russian woman with Russian citizenship (“independently” – wife of old Mayor of Moscow), is described as Elena Baturina

    She emigrated to London, but in the last couple of years bad relations with British-Russian on the political level, seems to intend to kill London’s gold egg laying gooses, just when Brexit is already undermining other income sources. Last year, London started to deny people like Abramovich visas (who then cancelled building a new stadium in London), and now

    Russia’s richest woman ‘who was introduced to City Hall during Boris Johnson’s reign’ and donated £138,000 after Sadiq Khan took office quits as trustee of London mayor’s charity

    Russia’s richest woman who donated £138,000 to a charity run by Sadiq Khan has suddenly quit as one of its trustees, it was revealed today.

    Elena Baturina, believed to be Russia’s only female billionaire, this week resigned from the Mayor’s Fund for London, which pays for education programmes in deprived areas of the capital.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7506519/Russias-richest-woman-introduced-City-Hall-Boris-Johnson-quits-London-mayors-charity.html

    • Replies: @Medvedev
    @Dmitry

    Jewish billionaires who live abroad, make money in other countries and then donate and help Israel.
    Russian billionaires steal money in Russia and move to other countries.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  43. @Hail
    @Dmitry

    Twin infants at 57? How?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anon, @IHTG, @Alden

    Sam Snead was born 5/27/1912, and both his parents were born before the Civil War, making them both at least 51 at the time.
    So, it’s not common, but it’s not impossible, by any means.

  44. over -representation of Scots and Maronites hardly matter: they exert no cultural or political influence on the body politic to sway it towards their ethnic interests.

    Lot, many of us cling despairingly to the hope that our elites will stop trying to replace us. Some of us think that if the passive aggression and direct aggression that we receive in daily life were to be ended, the West could be saved, and all of us could prosper in peace.

    I think that Jews can veto any elite gentile who moves in the desired direction. That veto can take the form of mere ridicule. Or something else.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @houston 1992


    our elites will stop trying to replace us.
     
    "The Jews will not replace us" is kind of a catchy slogan, sort of like "Black Lives Matter" but it really doesn't withstand scrutiny. If you were to sit in the deepest darkest cabals of the Democrat Party where Chucky Schumer plots with Nancy Pelosi, their plan is not to REPLACE the white people of America but at most to DILUTE their electoral influence. But you will still be right there in your trailer, where you always lived.

    Replies: @anon, @Moses

  45. @yani_the_elder7
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Jewish genius is an ever declining phenomenon in both the artistic and scientific realms. As the former goes, Jews no longer dominate the ranks of literatteurs, conductors, musical performers, composers etc. with anywhere near the statistical disproportion they once did. As the latter goes, your common gamut of Perelman's, Schwarz's and Rosenfeld's are being rapidly displaced by Shu's, Chen's and Zhai's at competitions like the International Mathematics Olympiad. The Jewish breeding patterns which engendered Ashkenazi greatness appear to be dissipating. Politically, in the West, Jews are actively undermining the hand which feeds them. Geopolitically, Jewish influence will flounder under the ascendancy of rising, amoral powers commanding vastly greater populations which are indifferent to the Jewish project. Five hundred years from now, in broader historical relief, Jewish success from 1800 to today will be viewed like Nazi military success at the beginning of WWII, as the transient propulsion of a people punching above their weight, doomed to revert to the mean.

    Replies: @houston 1992, @Jack D, @B36

    Jews tend to marry WASP elites. How do the children perform? ..How do the Ivies rate winning spelling bees, music recitals etc? if they dont matter for admission,, then maybe Jews, WASPs are correct to let their kids find themselves.
    As others have noted, Asians are not dominating the top positions after graduate school so maybe they are investing too much into the wrong vehicles?

    • Replies: @anon
    @houston 1992

    Chinese have been getting Honors Degrees for 40 years in Australia, and generally end up working for the Government.
    They just don't seem to have what it takes to rise to the top outside China.

  46. @BenKenobi
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Why oh why does Steve allow bait like this through moderation?

    Replies: @SFG, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Jon

    Yet you responded to this obvious bait.

    • Disagree: BenKenobi
  47. @Altai
    Important to note that though Steve makes a distinction between half Jews for the purposes of posing nature/nurture questions, one tends to find half Jews (And even beyond, particularly if it's patrilineal ancestry) identifying as Jewish and such persons also have social access to Jewish social networks.

    "I'm half Jewish and half nothing" as the joke goes.

    Replies: @Monsieur Psychosis, @Dmitry

    Similar joke to the film Goodfellas:

  48. Gina Rinehart (nee Georgina Hope Hancock) is definitely not Jewish. Her father was Lang Hancock (a noted Australian mining tycoon, the son of George Hancock and Lilian Prior, whose families came to Australia from England around 1830) and her mother was Hope Margaret Nicholas. Lang is described as Catholic in the Australian Dictionary of Biography.

    I guess that makes it 18.5 per cent.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Catholic isn't a Race.
    Let's put it this way: neither Lang Hancock or Gina Rinehart looked in any way English, and if the Jewish Press want to claim them, then it's case closed.
    https://www.gettyimages.com.au/photos/gina-rinehart?family=editorial&sort=best&phrase=gina%20rinehart

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @LondonBob, @Hibernian

  49. Anon[863] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    @Anon


    If the country isn’t basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there.
     
    One of the billionaires listed there, Joseph Safra, is a Brazilian Jew. Jews comprise something like 0.6% of Brazil’s population. I think his ancestors were involved in caravan trading in the Middle East going back centuries.

    Replies: @Anon

    Yes, and there are groups like the Ibo.

    The point is that on the whole Steve’s 0.2 percent starting point produces silly results given the different conditions in different sorts of countries. Jews are not by nature, or nurture, of their Jewyness sigma 2 above gentiles in their ability to become outlier far right tail rich, or else there would be ten times the number of such Jews in the U.S. I think the offset in IQ is probably about the same as the offset in getting-rich-ability.

  50. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    because your power is pure poison for the interest of europeans and our nation as a whole specially those white working class people(non white working class too) that your kind denigrate 24 h/d by all the factual power
    compare the wasp america with his noblese oblige of 1960s where the working class people have a secure living with a desindustrialized giant financial ponzi scheme that america has became ,million of inmigant destroying the salaries of the working class ,the cohesive society its over the same as the social structures like stable marriage that had very positive effect specially in poor people that jews worked so hard to abolish and the result are obvious decrease in life expectancy ,white working class suicides all time high ,opium reaching pandemic levels…….

    nobody has done more than jews to destroy the white working class

  51. Little known fact: Every Jew gets a small dividend check every quarter from the Jewish Billionaires Fund. Not to sound greedy, but I’m really hoping there are more Jewish billionaires because I’m really counting on the checks.

  52. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:

    jews like all the middle eastern people punch about they iq weight when it come to the creation of business greek italians and probably indians seem to be this way too .

    they are a race of merchants and jews are their messias

    north europeans and specially east asians in the other hand dont seem to be naturally talented for comercial activities, they are much more inocent they dont have that chamaleonic talent necesary for the success in the comercial world.

    but contraintuitively when north euros/east asians scandinavians and japanese as their representaion live in their own homogeneous countries are able to create an incredible variety of business that can compeat perfectly at world level.

    for me the merchant talent go like this

    jews > indians >iranians> greeks and italians> anglos > germanics > east asians

    i would love to see the score of these ethnic group in all their department

  53. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    Tiny Duck masquerading as a Jewish woman? Will he sing “People who need people, are the luckiest people in the world?”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hibernian

    I was thinking “You’re So Vain” or “Manic Monday”.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  54. @Hail
    @Dmitry

    Twin infants at 57? How?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anon, @IHTG, @Alden

    Twins at that age is an obvious tell for fertility treatments. Common phenomenon in Israel.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @IHTG

    Almost certainly donor eggs

  55. @houston 1992
    @yani_the_elder7

    Jews tend to marry WASP elites. How do the children perform? ..How do the Ivies rate winning spelling bees, music recitals etc? if they dont matter for admission,, then maybe Jews, WASPs are correct to let their kids find themselves.
    As others have noted, Asians are not dominating the top positions after graduate school so maybe they are investing too much into the wrong vehicles?

    Replies: @anon

    Chinese have been getting Honors Degrees for 40 years in Australia, and generally end up working for the Government.
    They just don’t seem to have what it takes to rise to the top outside China.

  56. @Dmitry

    richest Russian woman

     

    However, media doesn't refer to Dreyfus as the richest Russian woman. She emigrated while the USSR still existed, and in that time it required that people renounce their citizenship to attain a new country's citizenship.

    And although her company has French origins, Dreyfus is not reported for richest people in France
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_billionaires_by_net_worth


    -

    The richest Russian woman with Russian citizenship ("independently" - wife of old Mayor of Moscow), is described as Elena Baturina

    She emigrated to London, but in the last couple of years bad relations with British-Russian on the political level, seems to intend to kill London's gold egg laying gooses, just when Brexit is already undermining other income sources. Last year, London started to deny people like Abramovich visas (who then cancelled building a new stadium in London), and now


    Russia's richest woman 'who was introduced to City Hall during Boris Johnson's reign' and donated £138,000 after Sadiq Khan took office quits as trustee of London mayor's charity

    Russia's richest woman who donated £138,000 to a charity run by Sadiq Khan has suddenly quit as one of its trustees, it was revealed today.

    Elena Baturina, believed to be Russia's only female billionaire, this week resigned from the Mayor's Fund for London, which pays for education programmes in deprived areas of the capital.

     

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7506519/Russias-richest-woman-introduced-City-Hall-Boris-Johnson-quits-London-mayors-charity.html

    Replies: @Medvedev

    Jewish billionaires who live abroad, make money in other countries and then donate and help Israel.
    Russian billionaires steal money in Russia and move to other countries.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Medvedev

    When I went to an early round of the US Amateur golf tournament in 2017 at Bel-Air CC, there were about six 50,000 square foot houses under construction overlooking the golf course. Movie stars can't afford them. I wonder how many have been bought by Russian oligarchs? Four?

  57. @Richard of Melbourne
    Gina Rinehart (nee Georgina Hope Hancock) is definitely not Jewish. Her father was Lang Hancock (a noted Australian mining tycoon, the son of George Hancock and Lilian Prior, whose families came to Australia from England around 1830) and her mother was Hope Margaret Nicholas. Lang is described as Catholic in the Australian Dictionary of Biography.

    I guess that makes it 18.5 per cent.

    Replies: @anon

    Catholic isn’t a Race.
    Let’s put it this way: neither Lang Hancock or Gina Rinehart looked in any way English, and if the Jewish Press want to claim them, then it’s case closed.
    https://www.gettyimages.com.au/photos/gina-rinehart?family=editorial&sort=best&phrase=gina%20rinehart

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    But the exact same "Jewish Business News" reported that Rinehart is not Jewish.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @anon


    neither Lang Hancock or Gina Rinehart looked in any way English
     
    Well- how the English look like?
    , @LondonBob
    @anon

    Gina looks English to me, you remind of when I lived in Russia and a few people thought I might be Jewish because I had typically Welsh dark hair and dark eyes.

    People underestimate how much impact nepotism has and the advantages being completely amoral in business can be.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Hibernian
    @anon


    Catholic isn’t a Race.
     
    No, but there is a correlation between religion and ethnicity among Catholics. It's one-to-many rather than one-to-one.

    If someone is Catholic, they're not Jewish, because Baptism excludes them from membership in the Jewish community. (That's not to say that their picture will be turned to the wall.)
  58. Jews have been over-represented in many fields in past 100-150 years. They are in a great creative historical phase, similar to Greeks from 600-200 BC, Italians from 1300-1600, English 1600-1800, Germans from 1730-1930 (and earlier & later, too, for all groups).

    Always there is a group that somehow sticks out. For instance, within Western culture, it is evident that fascinating corpus of written word can be read, from c. 1750 to 1850 in English, French, German, and not so much in Spanish, Portuguese, Italian or Russian. Why is this so, we don’t know (except for Russian, which was not fully codified until Karamzin and Pushkin). We don’t know why other great historical cultures (Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Arab, Persian,..) don’t have much to offer in that period.

    It seems that there are periods of brilliance for all significant historical cultures- and then, dryness.

    As for Jews, they are even more present in the area of violin virtuosi in past 100 years & now, where they are c. 50-80% of the most acclaimed violinists. Why is it so? I don’t know. Why are they not nearly represented in visual arts (which, by the way, barely exist from the 1930s)?

    I don’t have a problem with any ethnicity being successful in money making; just, something I do have a problem with is Jewish anti-white activism on the part of these rich Jews, the best exemplified by Soros. Why are rich white Gentiles like Gates or Koch not only inactive, but even worse- very active in dismantling historical American nation & European peoples’ nation states?

    Soros & Zuckerberg are like kidney stones; Gates and Slim are like cancer.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "Why are rich white Gentiles like Gates or Koch not only inactive, but even worse- very active in dismantling historical American nation & European peoples’ nation states?"

    Jake, call your office.

  59. @anon
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Catholic isn't a Race.
    Let's put it this way: neither Lang Hancock or Gina Rinehart looked in any way English, and if the Jewish Press want to claim them, then it's case closed.
    https://www.gettyimages.com.au/photos/gina-rinehart?family=editorial&sort=best&phrase=gina%20rinehart

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @LondonBob, @Hibernian

    But the exact same “Jewish Business News” reported that Rinehart is not Jewish.

  60. @Medvedev
    @Dmitry

    Jewish billionaires who live abroad, make money in other countries and then donate and help Israel.
    Russian billionaires steal money in Russia and move to other countries.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    When I went to an early round of the US Amateur golf tournament in 2017 at Bel-Air CC, there were about six 50,000 square foot houses under construction overlooking the golf course. Movie stars can’t afford them. I wonder how many have been bought by Russian oligarchs? Four?

  61. @Daniel H
    Clear that a lot of billions were made (siphoned off) in the rape of Soviet Union economy. Thank you Larry Summers.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @lavoisier

    Yeah, I would try to lose those names off the list if I ran a Jewish news outlet.

  62. @Hibernian
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Tiny Duck masquerading as a Jewish woman? Will he sing "People who need people, are the luckiest people in the world?"

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I was thinking “You’re So Vain” or “Manic Monday”.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Anonymous

    I got your first reference right off, had to look up the second one. I think "You're So Vain" was about one of Ms. Simon's boyfriends, non-Jewish, I think a WASP. (Who else would walk into a party like he was walking into a yacht?)

  63. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    little parrot

    who brought the slaves?

    View post on imgur.com

    who owned the slaves?

    View post on imgur.com

    who liberated the slaves?

    View post on imgur.com

    you dont give a shit about those poor blacks hispanic native americans ……you only use them as a pawn to destroy us .

    the only thing have you have brought to america and the west as whole is division and hate , the hate and envy you have cultivated for the success of milenial european incredible achieviments converting your biggest masturbatory fantasy in reality while you grasp desperately to the ethno supremacist religion that judaism acumulating a milenial hate and envy.

  64. @anon
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Catholic isn't a Race.
    Let's put it this way: neither Lang Hancock or Gina Rinehart looked in any way English, and if the Jewish Press want to claim them, then it's case closed.
    https://www.gettyimages.com.au/photos/gina-rinehart?family=editorial&sort=best&phrase=gina%20rinehart

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @LondonBob, @Hibernian

    neither Lang Hancock or Gina Rinehart looked in any way English

    Well- how the English look like?

  65. @anon
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Catholic isn't a Race.
    Let's put it this way: neither Lang Hancock or Gina Rinehart looked in any way English, and if the Jewish Press want to claim them, then it's case closed.
    https://www.gettyimages.com.au/photos/gina-rinehart?family=editorial&sort=best&phrase=gina%20rinehart

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @LondonBob, @Hibernian

    Gina looks English to me, you remind of when I lived in Russia and a few people thought I might be Jewish because I had typically Welsh dark hair and dark eyes.

    People underestimate how much impact nepotism has and the advantages being completely amoral in business can be.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @LondonBob


    Gina looks English to me ...
     
    She looks Whalish to me.

    You'd think if you're worth a few billion you could afford a gym membership and personal trainer (and if push comes to shove some liposuction).
  66. Golf Magazine has a new Top 100 course list out. How many were initially designed by Scotsmen?

    The point is things like being a golf course designer or billionaire depend both on smarts and being at the right place at the right time. Connections, not just IQ.

  67. Nicky Oppenheimer’s grandfather converted to Anglicanism. His father was an important businessman and funder of the opposition in apartheid times in SA. The family’s wealth – and fame – has faded relatively in the post-apartheid era. Nicky is not Jewish in religion, and has probably well less than 50% in ancestry.

  68. I’d say Gina Rinehart’s ( nee Hancock) family background is English Anglican although her late second husband may have been an American Jew

    About half of Austtalia’s richest are Jews -mainly post WW2 immigrants .Maybe currently the richest is (wait for it ) Anthony Pratt -who has business interests in the US

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @sb


    About half of Austtalia’s richest are Jews
     
    Maybe that's true in Austtalia, but not in Australia where it's nowhere close to 50%. I challenge you to find any source for that claim.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @kaganovitch

  69. I see I’m a bit slow in making the point about Gina Rinehart .I’m saying Anglican because she went to Anglican schools but I accept that doesn’t prove anything .Australian kids attend private schools mainly because they can .(About 40% do so )

    Jews make up 0.4% of Australia

  70. @Colin Wright
    '... But, on the other hand, how often do the gentile masses ever think about Jewish wealth and its implications? That’s just Not a Topic in the Narrative.'

    'Jewish power is the ability to prevent the discussion of Jewish power.'

    Gilad Atzmon (words approximate)

    Replies: @Jack D

    And yet here you are talking about it.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Jack D

    Steve Sailer:


    One might think that this data would discourage Jewish journalists from going on and on about “white privilege” on the prudent principle that those who live in glass mansions shouldn’t throw bricks. But, on the other hand, how often do the gentile masses ever think about Jewish wealth and its implications? That’s just Not a Topic in the Narrative.
     
    Colin Wright:

    ‘Jewish power is the ability to prevent the discussion of Jewish power.’
    Gilad Atzmon (words approximate)
     
    Jack D:

    And yet here you are talking about it.
     
    You can't be serious, Mr. D. Here, at Unz Review, yes.* Can you name any mainstream forum/platform/venue where one can get away with even so much as asking whether Jews enjoy undue influence/ privilege / power? What would happen to any public figure who would even so much as raise the question as to what accounts for Jewish over-representation in so many consequential spheres? I've seen enough of your comments here to tell me that you know all too well.

    *I am at a loss as to how to explain Patreon allowing this site. Or, even more baffling, according to Ron Unz, Google AdSense having solicited him to accept their offering.

    I'm no fan of Gilad Atzmon but I find the statement attributed to him above by Colin Wright to be quite apt. Likewise for Mr. Sailer's observations and comments that I quoted at the top.

    Mind you, I do not suggest that there is anything nefarious or illegitimate merely about high achievement among Jews. I absolutely do, however, find something very wrong with the situation we have now in which organizations such as the ADL and the $PLC yield the immense power that they do, basically serving as the arbiters and regulators of acceptable public discourse. And the fact that the Zionist State-- a foreign entity-- is able to wield the immense influence over U.S. policy and politics that it does not seem kosher to me.

    All those who scold about "White privilege" and diversity, etc. need to either shut-up or, if they persist, address and allow discussion of Jewish privilege. Can't have it both ways.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Colin Wright
    @Jack D

    'And yet here you are talking about it.'

    Yes, here. Shall we attempt to move the discussion to the New York Times?

  71. @sb
    I'd say Gina Rinehart's ( nee Hancock) family background is English Anglican although her late second husband may have been an American Jew

    About half of Austtalia's richest are Jews -mainly post WW2 immigrants .Maybe currently the richest is (wait for it ) Anthony Pratt -who has business interests in the US

    Replies: @Jack D

    About half of Austtalia’s richest are Jews

    Maybe that’s true in Austtalia, but not in Australia where it’s nowhere close to 50%. I challenge you to find any source for that claim.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-of-the-7-wealthiest-people-in-australia-are-jewish/

    5 of the 7 wealthiest people in Australia are Jewish

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    Maybe that’s true in Austtalia, but not in Australia where it’s nowhere close to 50%. I challenge you to find any source for that claim.

    Well, if you restrict the list to the ten wealthiest and you count Rinehart (i have no clue where the idea that she's Jewish came from), you arrive at %50

    Gina Rinehart, $17.4b
    Harry Triguboff, $9.2b
    Vivek Chaand Sehgal, $6b
    Frank Lowy, $5.9b
    Anthony Pratt, $5.5b
    Andrew Forrest, $4.4b
    John Gandel, $4.1b
    James Packer, $4.1b
    Mike Cannon-Brookes, Scott Farquhar $3.4b each
    Lindsay Fox, $3.4b

    Of these, Triguboff, Lowy, Gandel and Pratt are certainly Jewish. I don't think Fox is, despite his support for Jewish causes. Which leaves Rinehart to get to %50. As I said I have no idea why anyone thinks Rinehart is Jewish...

    Replies: @Jack D

  72. @yani_the_elder7
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Jewish genius is an ever declining phenomenon in both the artistic and scientific realms. As the former goes, Jews no longer dominate the ranks of literatteurs, conductors, musical performers, composers etc. with anywhere near the statistical disproportion they once did. As the latter goes, your common gamut of Perelman's, Schwarz's and Rosenfeld's are being rapidly displaced by Shu's, Chen's and Zhai's at competitions like the International Mathematics Olympiad. The Jewish breeding patterns which engendered Ashkenazi greatness appear to be dissipating. Politically, in the West, Jews are actively undermining the hand which feeds them. Geopolitically, Jewish influence will flounder under the ascendancy of rising, amoral powers commanding vastly greater populations which are indifferent to the Jewish project. Five hundred years from now, in broader historical relief, Jewish success from 1800 to today will be viewed like Nazi military success at the beginning of WWII, as the transient propulsion of a people punching above their weight, doomed to revert to the mean.

    Replies: @houston 1992, @Jack D, @B36

    500 years from now we’ll all be dead. Nothing is permanent – the glories of Rome, the Spanish Empire – they are all gone with the wind. But Jew had one hell of a century (the 20th), both good and bad. 500 years from now, the 20th century will be seen as the most consequential century for Jews since the 1st.

  73. the Overrepresentation is even higher taking in consideration that nearly all of those are from ashkenazi roots. and you can’t exclude ashkenazis from ultra-orthodox communities that arent involved in business as well.

    the major exception from my country is Silvio Santos, that isnt ashkenazi. he is a media owner and everything. but he is more like a populist rather than anti-society like american media owners

  74. @Jack D
    @Colin Wright

    And yet here you are talking about it.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Colin Wright

    Steve Sailer:

    One might think that this data would discourage Jewish journalists from going on and on about “white privilege” on the prudent principle that those who live in glass mansions shouldn’t throw bricks. But, on the other hand, how often do the gentile masses ever think about Jewish wealth and its implications? That’s just Not a Topic in the Narrative.

    Colin Wright:

    ‘Jewish power is the ability to prevent the discussion of Jewish power.’
    Gilad Atzmon (words approximate)

    Jack D:

    And yet here you are talking about it.

    You can’t be serious, Mr. D. Here, at Unz Review, yes.* Can you name any mainstream forum/platform/venue where one can get away with even so much as asking whether Jews enjoy undue influence/ privilege / power? What would happen to any public figure who would even so much as raise the question as to what accounts for Jewish over-representation in so many consequential spheres? I’ve seen enough of your comments here to tell me that you know all too well.

    *I am at a loss as to how to explain Patreon allowing this site. Or, even more baffling, according to Ron Unz, Google AdSense having solicited him to accept their offering.

    I’m no fan of Gilad Atzmon but I find the statement attributed to him above by Colin Wright to be quite apt. Likewise for Mr. Sailer’s observations and comments that I quoted at the top.

    Mind you, I do not suggest that there is anything nefarious or illegitimate merely about high achievement among Jews. I absolutely do, however, find something very wrong with the situation we have now in which organizations such as the ADL and the $PLC yield the immense power that they do, basically serving as the arbiters and regulators of acceptable public discourse. And the fact that the Zionist State– a foreign entity— is able to wield the immense influence over U.S. policy and politics that it does not seem kosher to me.

    All those who scold about “White privilege” and diversity, etc. need to either shut-up or, if they persist, address and allow discussion of Jewish privilege. Can’t have it both ways.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Dissident

    Here are two statements:

    1. Jews have a lot of wealth and power in America.

    2. Jews have too much wealth and power in America.


    Do you understand how these two statement differ?

    Saying that you just want to talk about these things is like blacks saying that they want to have a "conversation about race".

    Replies: @Anon

  75. @Jack D
    @sb


    About half of Austtalia’s richest are Jews
     
    Maybe that's true in Austtalia, but not in Australia where it's nowhere close to 50%. I challenge you to find any source for that claim.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @kaganovitch

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If you read further, the total is 28 out of the top 200. Glasenberg has only tenuous connection to Australia since he was born in SA and lives in Switzerland.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  76. @Jack D
    @Colin Wright

    And yet here you are talking about it.

    Replies: @Dissident, @Colin Wright

    ‘And yet here you are talking about it.’

    Yes, here. Shall we attempt to move the discussion to the New York Times?

  77. @IHTG
    @Hail

    Twins at that age is an obvious tell for fertility treatments. Common phenomenon in Israel.

    Replies: @Flip

    Almost certainly donor eggs

  78. I think if wealth is an indicator of high IQ, then we just have to look at this as evidence that there is a genetic factor somewhere in all of this.

    Just like admissions into elite colleges shows a similar pattern.

    Even in NYC most of the White kids admitted into the screened science/tech high schools used to be Jewish until they were driven out by political correctness and now probably attending either private schools or a Yeshiva.

    AND in spite of what many say about Israel, it is pretty clear that they are not surviving (thriving) in that part of the world just because of US military support as the US has supported many countries that have not achieved even a small part of Israeli accomplishments.

    I think even this persecution of them over the centuries is probably linked to their IQ as, let’s face it, jealousy of others’ wealth, accomplishments is a strong motive for persecution.

    We see this in the reaction of most of the world to our own accomplishments. Western civilization is actually a far younger civilization than the civilizations in places like China, India, South America and even Africa; yet we have achieved much more than all of them put together and the jealousy is rampart. That’s what all of these attacks of ‘wokeness’ are and even the vast exaggerations of the impact of colonialism on the conditions of these places today. Actually colonialism was probably a benefit to most of these other civilizations as it gave them a standard of living they would never have achieved on their own which, of course, most of them are now busily destroying. Perfect example let’s look at the condition of Africa and South America. India is barely hanging on by a thread economically and I don’t know where China will be in a few years if the US doesn’t begin trading with them again.

    So although many will hate me saying this, we have to admit that there is probably a genetic link to high IQ and greater wealth traveling through the Jewish peoples…

  79. @Dissident
    @Jack D

    Steve Sailer:


    One might think that this data would discourage Jewish journalists from going on and on about “white privilege” on the prudent principle that those who live in glass mansions shouldn’t throw bricks. But, on the other hand, how often do the gentile masses ever think about Jewish wealth and its implications? That’s just Not a Topic in the Narrative.
     
    Colin Wright:

    ‘Jewish power is the ability to prevent the discussion of Jewish power.’
    Gilad Atzmon (words approximate)
     
    Jack D:

    And yet here you are talking about it.
     
    You can't be serious, Mr. D. Here, at Unz Review, yes.* Can you name any mainstream forum/platform/venue where one can get away with even so much as asking whether Jews enjoy undue influence/ privilege / power? What would happen to any public figure who would even so much as raise the question as to what accounts for Jewish over-representation in so many consequential spheres? I've seen enough of your comments here to tell me that you know all too well.

    *I am at a loss as to how to explain Patreon allowing this site. Or, even more baffling, according to Ron Unz, Google AdSense having solicited him to accept their offering.

    I'm no fan of Gilad Atzmon but I find the statement attributed to him above by Colin Wright to be quite apt. Likewise for Mr. Sailer's observations and comments that I quoted at the top.

    Mind you, I do not suggest that there is anything nefarious or illegitimate merely about high achievement among Jews. I absolutely do, however, find something very wrong with the situation we have now in which organizations such as the ADL and the $PLC yield the immense power that they do, basically serving as the arbiters and regulators of acceptable public discourse. And the fact that the Zionist State-- a foreign entity-- is able to wield the immense influence over U.S. policy and politics that it does not seem kosher to me.

    All those who scold about "White privilege" and diversity, etc. need to either shut-up or, if they persist, address and allow discussion of Jewish privilege. Can't have it both ways.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Here are two statements:

    1. Jews have a lot of wealth and power in America.

    2. Jews have too much wealth and power in America.

    Do you understand how these two statement differ?

    Saying that you just want to talk about these things is like blacks saying that they want to have a “conversation about race”.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jack D

    Um, given to whom you're talking, it's like you saying you want to have a conversation about race.

  80. @Monsieur Psychosis
    @Altai

    Exactly right.

    This seems to have eluded Kevin MacDonald, though. Whenever someone asks him about half Jews he makes some nonsense point about how Jewry is a series of concentric rings with rabbis at the center. He's a weird mix of insightful and retarded.

    Replies: @Amerimutt Golems

    You mean like Scarlett Johansson and her support for Israeli colonies in the West Bank?

  81. The list ( Cohen, Icahn, Perelman, Schwarzman, Simons, Soros, Tepper etc) is skewed towards using goyim money (endowments, pension funds, insurance, trusts, sovereign wealth etc) to speculate on things like futures contracts in pork bellies courtesy of hardworking farmers in Iowa and elsewhere.

    Bloomberg makes money charging these people over U.S.$20,000 each year for his terminals. Eliot Spitzer (not a billionaire) has also tried to cash in by backing the Israeli firm TipRanks which rates financial analysts.

    I don’t have time to talk about accountants, auditors, bankers, fundraisers, marketers, lawyers, prime brokers, recruiters, software providers and other professionals who also live off the multi-trillion dollar investment management business.

  82. @Jack D
    @sb


    About half of Austtalia’s richest are Jews
     
    Maybe that's true in Austtalia, but not in Australia where it's nowhere close to 50%. I challenge you to find any source for that claim.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @kaganovitch

    Maybe that’s true in Austtalia, but not in Australia where it’s nowhere close to 50%. I challenge you to find any source for that claim.

    Well, if you restrict the list to the ten wealthiest and you count Rinehart (i have no clue where the idea that she’s Jewish came from), you arrive at %50

    Gina Rinehart, $17.4b
    Harry Triguboff, $9.2b
    Vivek Chaand Sehgal, $6b
    Frank Lowy, $5.9b
    Anthony Pratt, $5.5b
    Andrew Forrest, $4.4b
    John Gandel, $4.1b
    James Packer, $4.1b
    Mike Cannon-Brookes, Scott Farquhar $3.4b each
    Lindsay Fox, $3.4b

    Of these, Triguboff, Lowy, Gandel and Pratt are certainly Jewish. I don’t think Fox is, despite his support for Jewish causes. Which leaves Rinehart to get to %50. As I said I have no idea why anyone thinks Rinehart is Jewish…

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    You can count Triguboff either in the Jewish column or as Chinese since he was born in China.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @sb

  83. @Jack D
    @Dissident

    Here are two statements:

    1. Jews have a lot of wealth and power in America.

    2. Jews have too much wealth and power in America.


    Do you understand how these two statement differ?

    Saying that you just want to talk about these things is like blacks saying that they want to have a "conversation about race".

    Replies: @Anon

    Um, given to whom you’re talking, it’s like you saying you want to have a conversation about race.

  84. @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    Maybe that’s true in Austtalia, but not in Australia where it’s nowhere close to 50%. I challenge you to find any source for that claim.

    Well, if you restrict the list to the ten wealthiest and you count Rinehart (i have no clue where the idea that she's Jewish came from), you arrive at %50

    Gina Rinehart, $17.4b
    Harry Triguboff, $9.2b
    Vivek Chaand Sehgal, $6b
    Frank Lowy, $5.9b
    Anthony Pratt, $5.5b
    Andrew Forrest, $4.4b
    John Gandel, $4.1b
    James Packer, $4.1b
    Mike Cannon-Brookes, Scott Farquhar $3.4b each
    Lindsay Fox, $3.4b

    Of these, Triguboff, Lowy, Gandel and Pratt are certainly Jewish. I don't think Fox is, despite his support for Jewish causes. Which leaves Rinehart to get to %50. As I said I have no idea why anyone thinks Rinehart is Jewish...

    Replies: @Jack D

    You can count Triguboff either in the Jewish column or as Chinese since he was born in China.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    I guess, but it's not like his family lived in China for generations. They came in the twenties and left in 1947

    , @sb
    @Jack D

    A number of Australian based Jews came via China
    Something to do with China having open entry during the 1930s and 40s

  85. @indocon
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    "also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators"

    Pretty soon, you will find yourself in a country of only yourself and POC's, enjoy, and better have a plane to deal with them.

    Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker, @Don't Look at Me

    Canadian Jews still push for open borders, even though Muslims now outnumber Jews 4-1, and are growing in radicalization.

    Their built in hatred of European Christians is simply too great. It’s a genetic thing, they are hard wired this way.

  86. @Anon
    Jews are 2 percent of Americans, not 0.2 percent. I think the best metric is what percentage of Americans (and citizens of Americanesque countries) are Jewish, not what percent of Africans, Indians, et al. are Jewish. So that is 1 SD, not 2, still big.

    Rich people in developing countries become so due to nepotism and the like. If the country isn't basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there. And yet they will have billionaires even if the country is full of numbskulls because of natural resources, utility companies, and so on.

    In the U.S. every group has a chance, a reasonably equal chance in my opinion, but at least a chance. So the ethnicity has meaning and you can ask Why?

    The 2 percent figure for Jews is a guess, because there is no census question for it. Pew is generally the source, 2.2 percent, which combines self-identified religious-ancestral Jews and self-identified atheist-ancestral Jews. It excludes ancestral Christian Jews who practice Judaism (there are more than you think!) and it excludes ancestral Jews who practice Christianity. (I'm not sure where Christians officially "converted" to Judaism fall in Pew's scheme.) When you add up all four varieties of Pew Jews, it exceeds 4 percent of the population.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @AnotherDad, @a reader

    Jews are 2 percent of Americans, not 0.2 percent. I think the best metric is what percentage of Americans (and citizens of Americanesque countries) are Jewish, not what percent of Africans, Indians, et al. are Jewish. So that is 1 SD, not 2, still big.

    This is poking at what i think is a critical point here.

    Jews–the Ashenazi–seem to be about 2/3 or 3/4 of an SD above generic white Anglo-Germanic gentiles in IQ. (110-112 seems to be the ballpark–skewing heavily verbal and math-numeric with nothing much going on in visio-spatial.) Plus they have some other psychological traits–not all pleasant–that are useful for business success, and their Jewish cultural package, and of course connections and ethnic-nepotism. All this seems to be worth about an order of magnitude boost in business success relative to generic white gentiles.

    Where the other order of magnitude comes from is two things:
    1) the smaller, is that a lot of Jewish sharpies were around for the distribution/looting of the old Soviet Union
    but
    2) much larger, is that Jews were in America, which was the richest nation in the world by the dawn of the 20th century (i.e. before most Jews even showed up), came out of the War with 40% of the world’s GDP, was far and away it’s center of technology and innovation and has a freer or individualist system (compared to say Japan or Germany) more conducive to entrepreneurship and accumulating individual wealth.

    Take a guy like Bloomberg. Obviously a smart, hustling guy who saw a market opportunity and devised a scheme to get rich filling it. However, Bloomy would be nothing, a nobody, but for the fact that Wall Street is the financial center attached to big sprawling, high-IQ, productive, gentile America.

    Tremendous good fortune for Bloomberg, allowing him to make a great fortune. But is Bloomberg actually loyal to the vast millions of white gentile Americans who’ve made his wealth possible? No, he is not.

    Bloomberg’s case–and the others like it–answers the “why do Jews punch two orders of magnitude better?” question.

    America has been very, very, very good to the Jews. But have Jews been very good for America? No.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    But is Bloomberg actually loyal to the vast millions of white gentile Americans who’ve made his wealth possible? No, he is not.
     
    In what sense is he disloyal? By current Democrat standards he is conservative and most of the other Democrat candidates are far more "disloyal".

    America has been very, very, very good to the Jews. But have Jews been very good for America? No.
     
    Bloomberg didn't obtain his wealth by theft. Bloomberg developed and built a computerized system to provide real-time market data, financial calculations and other financial analytics to Wall Street firms. Remember this is 1981 when not everyone (actually no one) had an internet connection that provided real time market data and few even had PCs. Presumably the value created by the Bloomberg terminals (far) exceeded the (high) cost of their rental or else the Wall St. houses would not have paid for them. So I would say that at least Bloomberg was good for America in that he added to the nation's overall wealth (and not just his own). Not to mention the 20,000 (largely non-Jewish) people who are employed by Bloomberg. Was Jonas Salk good for America? Hyman Rickover? Edward Teller?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @nymom, @Moses

  87. @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    You can count Triguboff either in the Jewish column or as Chinese since he was born in China.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @sb

    I guess, but it’s not like his family lived in China for generations. They came in the twenties and left in 1947

  88. @SFG
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Honestly, if it wasn't for the leftism, I doubt anyone here would care.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Honestly, if it wasn’t for the leftism, I doubt anyone here would care.

    And not even traditional downtrodden-working-man leftism. Not too many gentiles are excited about Jewish thoughts/ideology/media about minimum wage or “medicare for all”. There have been plenty of gentiles pushing for welfare state benefits or even–back in the day–socialism.

    No this is about minoritarianism. Jews sneering contempt and attacks on white gentiles’ traditional norms, values, culture and their very existence as peoples and nations.

    And any American use of “anti-Semitism” is simply Jewish propaganda against gentiles who notice this Jewish behavior.

  89. @LondonBob
    @anon

    Gina looks English to me, you remind of when I lived in Russia and a few people thought I might be Jewish because I had typically Welsh dark hair and dark eyes.

    People underestimate how much impact nepotism has and the advantages being completely amoral in business can be.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Gina looks English to me …

    She looks Whalish to me.

    You’d think if you’re worth a few billion you could afford a gym membership and personal trainer (and if push comes to shove some liposuction).

  90. @yani_the_elder7
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    Jewish genius is an ever declining phenomenon in both the artistic and scientific realms. As the former goes, Jews no longer dominate the ranks of literatteurs, conductors, musical performers, composers etc. with anywhere near the statistical disproportion they once did. As the latter goes, your common gamut of Perelman's, Schwarz's and Rosenfeld's are being rapidly displaced by Shu's, Chen's and Zhai's at competitions like the International Mathematics Olympiad. The Jewish breeding patterns which engendered Ashkenazi greatness appear to be dissipating. Politically, in the West, Jews are actively undermining the hand which feeds them. Geopolitically, Jewish influence will flounder under the ascendancy of rising, amoral powers commanding vastly greater populations which are indifferent to the Jewish project. Five hundred years from now, in broader historical relief, Jewish success from 1800 to today will be viewed like Nazi military success at the beginning of WWII, as the transient propulsion of a people punching above their weight, doomed to revert to the mean.

    Replies: @houston 1992, @Jack D, @B36

    Also, what happened to all the Jewish doctors? Sometimes it looks like half the doctors in our community are Indian or Pakistani now.

    • Replies: @nymom
    @B36

    The elderly doctors are all Jewish but I guess we are now seeing the results of discrimination against Whites (which Jews fall under that heading) in medical schools and now most doctors (at least in NY) are Indian or Pakistani...

    Personally, I haven't seen a drop in medical care/knowledge among them as yet; but I have noticed a significant drop in medical care/knowledge among female doctors...including vets for pet care.

    This appears to be the result of allowing candidates into medical school without the applicable grades/knowledge in an attempt to 'cook the numbers'...

    Sadly, I have a sneaky feeling this is just the beginning of the decline in the US medical profession.

  91. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-of-the-7-wealthiest-people-in-australia-are-jewish/

    5 of the 7 wealthiest people in Australia are Jewish

    Replies: @Jack D

    If you read further, the total is 28 out of the top 200. Glasenberg has only tenuous connection to Australia since he was born in SA and lives in Switzerland.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    Fair enough. Even more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-23/jewish-australians-on-rich-list-but-one-in-five-in-poverty/11211270

    While some Jewish Australians are on the rich list, nearly one in five live in poverty


    .....
    Seven-dollar hot lunches and free entertainment.

    That's the strategy Rachel Tanny is employing at the organisation Connections, Opportunities, Activities (COA) in the Eastern Sydney suburb of Woollahra, which is the third-most advantaged Local Government Area in the country.

    She joined the not-for-profit as chief executive eight months ago, and now oversees a raft of services delivered to Jewish seniors and those with a disability. There's debt counselling and shopping assistance, phone calls for lonely individuals and Kosher Meals on Wheels. And, of course, the bi-weekly lunches in Woollahra, where clients come for the meal and stay for the dancing.

    "Because there is a sense of affluence in much of the Jewish community, there's a lot of stigma attached to financial hardship," says Ms Tanny.

    "There are a large number of people in the community experiencing [hardship], but it's not well-known because they try their best to hide it.

    "For example, most of our Meals on Wheels recipients don't want people to know that they're receiving it and to try to remove that stigma, as an organisation, we provide financial assessments which are all confidential and we reduce our prices accordingly."

    Indeed, five of the 10 richest Australians are Jewish, according to the Australian Financial Review's annual list.

    Vic Alhadeff, the chief executive of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, says it's understandable that high-achievers make headlines, but there's another statistic that's often overlooked.

    "Almost 20 per cent of the Jewish community of Australia lives below the poverty line," he says.

    Replies: @sb

  92. @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If you read further, the total is 28 out of the top 200. Glasenberg has only tenuous connection to Australia since he was born in SA and lives in Switzerland.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Fair enough. Even more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-23/jewish-australians-on-rich-list-but-one-in-five-in-poverty/11211270

    While some Jewish Australians are on the rich list, nearly one in five live in poverty

    …..
    Seven-dollar hot lunches and free entertainment.

    That’s the strategy Rachel Tanny is employing at the organisation Connections, Opportunities, Activities (COA) in the Eastern Sydney suburb of Woollahra, which is the third-most advantaged Local Government Area in the country.

    She joined the not-for-profit as chief executive eight months ago, and now oversees a raft of services delivered to Jewish seniors and those with a disability. There’s debt counselling and shopping assistance, phone calls for lonely individuals and Kosher Meals on Wheels. And, of course, the bi-weekly lunches in Woollahra, where clients come for the meal and stay for the dancing.

    “Because there is a sense of affluence in much of the Jewish community, there’s a lot of stigma attached to financial hardship,” says Ms Tanny.

    “There are a large number of people in the community experiencing [hardship], but it’s not well-known because they try their best to hide it.

    “For example, most of our Meals on Wheels recipients don’t want people to know that they’re receiving it and to try to remove that stigma, as an organisation, we provide financial assessments which are all confidential and we reduce our prices accordingly.”

    Indeed, five of the 10 richest Australians are Jewish, according to the Australian Financial Review’s annual list.

    Vic Alhadeff, the chief executive of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, says it’s understandable that high-achievers make headlines, but there’s another statistic that’s often overlooked.

    “Almost 20 per cent of the Jewish community of Australia lives below the poverty line,” he says.

    • Replies: @sb
    @Bardon Kaldian

    This is just propaganda.
    Sure you can find Jews in Australia who for some reason live on welfare but that's because they choose to.
    The Australian Jewish Community looks after it's own :- every Jew in Australia can attend a ( well financed ) Jewish school without fees if the family is broke; and every Jewish oldie can get a free place in a ( well financed ) Jewish retirement home if poor
    All those Jewish billionares need their tax deductions

  93. @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    Jews are 2 percent of Americans, not 0.2 percent. I think the best metric is what percentage of Americans (and citizens of Americanesque countries) are Jewish, not what percent of Africans, Indians, et al. are Jewish. So that is 1 SD, not 2, still big.
     
    This is poking at what i think is a critical point here.

    Jews--the Ashenazi--seem to be about 2/3 or 3/4 of an SD above generic white Anglo-Germanic gentiles in IQ. (110-112 seems to be the ballpark--skewing heavily verbal and math-numeric with nothing much going on in visio-spatial.) Plus they have some other psychological traits--not all pleasant--that are useful for business success, and their Jewish cultural package, and of course connections and ethnic-nepotism. All this seems to be worth about an order of magnitude boost in business success relative to generic white gentiles.

    Where the other order of magnitude comes from is two things:
    1) the smaller, is that a lot of Jewish sharpies were around for the distribution/looting of the old Soviet Union
    but
    2) much larger, is that Jews were in America, which was the richest nation in the world by the dawn of the 20th century (i.e. before most Jews even showed up), came out of the War with 40% of the world's GDP, was far and away it's center of technology and innovation and has a freer or individualist system (compared to say Japan or Germany) more conducive to entrepreneurship and accumulating individual wealth.

    Take a guy like Bloomberg. Obviously a smart, hustling guy who saw a market opportunity and devised a scheme to get rich filling it. However, Bloomy would be nothing, a nobody, but for the fact that Wall Street is the financial center attached to big sprawling, high-IQ, productive, gentile America.

    Tremendous good fortune for Bloomberg, allowing him to make a great fortune. But is Bloomberg actually loyal to the vast millions of white gentile Americans who've made his wealth possible? No, he is not.

    Bloomberg's case--and the others like it--answers the "why do Jews punch two orders of magnitude better?" question.

    America has been very, very, very good to the Jews. But have Jews been very good for America? No.

    Replies: @Jack D

    But is Bloomberg actually loyal to the vast millions of white gentile Americans who’ve made his wealth possible? No, he is not.

    In what sense is he disloyal? By current Democrat standards he is conservative and most of the other Democrat candidates are far more “disloyal”.

    America has been very, very, very good to the Jews. But have Jews been very good for America? No.

    Bloomberg didn’t obtain his wealth by theft. Bloomberg developed and built a computerized system to provide real-time market data, financial calculations and other financial analytics to Wall Street firms. Remember this is 1981 when not everyone (actually no one) had an internet connection that provided real time market data and few even had PCs. Presumably the value created by the Bloomberg terminals (far) exceeded the (high) cost of their rental or else the Wall St. houses would not have paid for them. So I would say that at least Bloomberg was good for America in that he added to the nation’s overall wealth (and not just his own). Not to mention the 20,000 (largely non-Jewish) people who are employed by Bloomberg. Was Jonas Salk good for America? Hyman Rickover? Edward Teller?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    Yeah, but he's too old. In comparison with him Warren is a feisty girl.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @nymom
    @Jack D

    Bloomberg was Mayor here for 12 years and I have to say: "He wasn't the worse Mayor NYC has ever had...

    Actually I am thinking our current Mayor de Blasio could be tying David Dinkins as one of the worse Mayors we have ever had; but, of course, I don't know everyone who has ever been Mayor in NYC.

    , @Moses
    @Jack D

    Hi Fellow Jew Jack,

    There is no denying that Jews like Bloomberg, Salk et al have contributed to America through their achievements.

    I think the point Dad is making is that Jews tend to use the wealth they create in ways that advance Jewish interests at the expense of American Gentile interests. The net effect of Jewish wealth creation is negative for non-Jewish Americans.

    Endless agitation for non-White immigration, $38 billion in aid while Americans hurt, media control pushing anti-White narratives, "White Privilege", manipulation to send America's sons to get limbs blown off in mideast sh*tholes to defend Israel -- the list goes on and on.

    We Jews would be well served to recognize how good we have it in America, focus on benefits to America instead of to our own group and stop imagining our White Gentile countrymen as potential Cossacks.

    Shalom.

  94. @Steve Sailer
    @Flip

    Thanks.

    Larry Page's paternal grandfather was an autoworker and labor organizer. He is said to have hated religion (or maybe that was Larry's dad, the comp sci professor). I could imagine the Pages coming out of the gentile socialist labor movement, which is largely forgotten today, but was pretty important in the past.

    Replies: @a reader

    Like his partner, Sergey Brin, Larry comes from Jewish heritage. Page’s maternal grandfather immigrated to Israel, where he lived in a desert town near the Dead Sea, and worked as a tool-and-die maker. Larry’s mother was raised in the Jewish faith, but his father was too scientific for much religion. His focus was on the world of technology.

    Google Speaks: Secrets of the World’s Greatest Billionaire Entrepreneurs, Sergey Brin and Larry Page. Lowe, Janet (April 22, 2009). p.22

    This book can be borrowed here.

  95. But, actually, gentile Germans are also a fairly high achieving group.

    German-American industrialists are a big part of the reason heavy metal American things destroy other nations’ heavy metal things in every corner of the globe, and have been doing so for a long time: Westinghouse, Chrysler, Boeing, Rentschler. I’d wager most iStevers have never even heard of Frederick Rentschler, engineer of the air-cooled radial aircraft engine (the machine that won WW2 for America) and the principal founder of Pratt & Whitney, one of the the largest jet engine manufacturers today. No hedge-fund managers here.

    Then there’s Steve Jobs, perhaps the greatest industrialist of our time: German mother, adopted and raised by German-Americans, whose name he bore.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @HunInTheSun

    Astor, Rockefeller.... It seems Germans in America are more interested in making money than producing ideas.

    Replies: @HunInTheSun

  96. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    But is Bloomberg actually loyal to the vast millions of white gentile Americans who’ve made his wealth possible? No, he is not.
     
    In what sense is he disloyal? By current Democrat standards he is conservative and most of the other Democrat candidates are far more "disloyal".

    America has been very, very, very good to the Jews. But have Jews been very good for America? No.
     
    Bloomberg didn't obtain his wealth by theft. Bloomberg developed and built a computerized system to provide real-time market data, financial calculations and other financial analytics to Wall Street firms. Remember this is 1981 when not everyone (actually no one) had an internet connection that provided real time market data and few even had PCs. Presumably the value created by the Bloomberg terminals (far) exceeded the (high) cost of their rental or else the Wall St. houses would not have paid for them. So I would say that at least Bloomberg was good for America in that he added to the nation's overall wealth (and not just his own). Not to mention the 20,000 (largely non-Jewish) people who are employed by Bloomberg. Was Jonas Salk good for America? Hyman Rickover? Edward Teller?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @nymom, @Moses

    Yeah, but he’s too old. In comparison with him Warren is a feisty girl.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I wasn't recommending him as a candidate, I was just saying that he isn't disloyal or Bad for America, or at least no more so than any of the non-Jewish Democrat candidates. In fact better than most. If you had to choose one of the current Dem candidates knowing that he or she was going to win the election (i.e. you can't make a strategic choice of which one is most likely to lose to Trump), which one would you choose?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  97. @HunInTheSun


    But, actually, gentile Germans are also a fairly high achieving group.

     

    German-American industrialists are a big part of the reason heavy metal American things destroy other nations’ heavy metal things in every corner of the globe, and have been doing so for a long time: Westinghouse, Chrysler, Boeing, Rentschler. I’d wager most iStevers have never even heard of Frederick Rentschler, engineer of the air-cooled radial aircraft engine (the machine that won WW2 for America) and the principal founder of Pratt & Whitney, one of the the largest jet engine manufacturers today. No hedge-fund managers here.

    Then there’s Steve Jobs, perhaps the greatest industrialist of our time: German mother, adopted and raised by German-Americans, whose name he bore.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Astor, Rockefeller…. It seems Germans in America are more interested in making money than producing ideas.

    • Replies: @HunInTheSun
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Astor, Rockefeller, them too! Ideas? America’s Anglo-Saxon Founders took care of the political ideas, if you refer to men of letters there’s Mencken and Vonnegut.

  98. That ubiquitous “the one percent” or “I am the ninety-nine percent” meme went away after 4chan memed that about forty percent of the one percent are bluish.

  99. @kaganovitch
    Hasso Plattner is not Jewish.Nor as far as I can tell is Xavier Niel.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    SAP co-founder Hasso Plattner is a descendant of the Christian Donau Schwaben in Rumania.

  100. @Anon
    Jews are 2 percent of Americans, not 0.2 percent. I think the best metric is what percentage of Americans (and citizens of Americanesque countries) are Jewish, not what percent of Africans, Indians, et al. are Jewish. So that is 1 SD, not 2, still big.

    Rich people in developing countries become so due to nepotism and the like. If the country isn't basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there. And yet they will have billionaires even if the country is full of numbskulls because of natural resources, utility companies, and so on.

    In the U.S. every group has a chance, a reasonably equal chance in my opinion, but at least a chance. So the ethnicity has meaning and you can ask Why?

    The 2 percent figure for Jews is a guess, because there is no census question for it. Pew is generally the source, 2.2 percent, which combines self-identified religious-ancestral Jews and self-identified atheist-ancestral Jews. It excludes ancestral Christian Jews who practice Judaism (there are more than you think!) and it excludes ancestral Jews who practice Christianity. (I'm not sure where Christians officially "converted" to Judaism fall in Pew's scheme.) When you add up all four varieties of Pew Jews, it exceeds 4 percent of the population.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @AnotherDad, @a reader

    If the country isn’t basically Jewish, and especially if there are no Jews at all, Jews are not going to be the billionaires there.

    Haiti has no more than 50 Jews out of a total population of 8.5 million.

    That’s 0,0006%.

    One of those is Gilbert Bigio.

  101. When I think of American presidents & influential people in the early US history- say, 1780-1820 – Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, both Adamses, Madison, Monroe, Hamilton, ..these guys were: a) sages, you just read something they’d written, b) mature, but not too old.

    Now, things are topsy-turvy. Presidents are either too young or absurdly geriatric. In both cases, they’re almost illiterate, just skim through their (mostly ghostwritten) “works” & you won’t find anything in them.

    Intellectual life of the ruling elite has plummeted abysmally. Just take the incredible output of Henry Adams: historian, writer, globetrotter, whatnot, with his sadly neglected monumental historical work on America (more than 2,800 pages), not to mention his true masterpieces & huge correspondence. Who, among patricians, can measure up to just 30% of Henry Adams?

    And presidents are entertainers. Not only entertainers, I’m not trying to depreciate them; just, in comparison with old sages … pooh.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Too bad he was an anti-Semite but I think that being an anti-Semite before the Holocaust was different than being one after.

    I have the feeling that a lot of folks here would like to get back to the point where it is possible to be a polite or rational anti-Semite or eugenicist but I think the Nazis irreparably soiled the brand and you are never getting back there. It's like Ayds candy - sometimes you just have to throw in the towel. That there are still drooling (neo) Nazi anti-Semites around only makes matters worse. Even if you are a impeccable gentleman and scholar like Adams, you are going to get put in the bucket with the skinhead with the Swastika sleeve tattoos.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Mr. Anon

  102. @houston 1992
    over -representation of Scots and Maronites hardly matter: they exert no cultural or political influence on the body politic to sway it towards their ethnic interests.

    Lot, many of us cling despairingly to the hope that our elites will stop trying to replace us. Some of us think that if the passive aggression and direct aggression that we receive in daily life were to be ended, the West could be saved, and all of us could prosper in peace.

    I think that Jews can veto any elite gentile who moves in the desired direction. That veto can take the form of mere ridicule. Or something else.

    Replies: @Jack D

    our elites will stop trying to replace us.

    “The Jews will not replace us” is kind of a catchy slogan, sort of like “Black Lives Matter” but it really doesn’t withstand scrutiny. If you were to sit in the deepest darkest cabals of the Democrat Party where Chucky Schumer plots with Nancy Pelosi, their plan is not to REPLACE the white people of America but at most to DILUTE their electoral influence. But you will still be right there in your trailer, where you always lived.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D

    If you were to sit in the deepest darkest cabals of the Democrat Party where Chucky Schumer plots with Nancy Pelosi, their plan is not to REPLACE the white people of America but at most to DILUTE their electoral influence.

    Why do you believe this to be true? Do you have evidence, or are you just waving your hands again?

    Replies: @Jack D, @anon

    , @Moses
    @Jack D


    But you will still be right there in your trailer, where you always lived.
     
    Come on Jack. We Jews are better than hating on poor Whites.
  103. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    Yeah, but he's too old. In comparison with him Warren is a feisty girl.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I wasn’t recommending him as a candidate, I was just saying that he isn’t disloyal or Bad for America, or at least no more so than any of the non-Jewish Democrat candidates. In fact better than most. If you had to choose one of the current Dem candidates knowing that he or she was going to win the election (i.e. you can’t make a strategic choice of which one is most likely to lose to Trump), which one would you choose?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    Sadly, him. He's, more or less, normal. The rest are raving lunatics & clowns.

  104. @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I wasn't recommending him as a candidate, I was just saying that he isn't disloyal or Bad for America, or at least no more so than any of the non-Jewish Democrat candidates. In fact better than most. If you had to choose one of the current Dem candidates knowing that he or she was going to win the election (i.e. you can't make a strategic choice of which one is most likely to lose to Trump), which one would you choose?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Sadly, him. He’s, more or less, normal. The rest are raving lunatics & clowns.

  105. anon[895] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @houston 1992


    our elites will stop trying to replace us.
     
    "The Jews will not replace us" is kind of a catchy slogan, sort of like "Black Lives Matter" but it really doesn't withstand scrutiny. If you were to sit in the deepest darkest cabals of the Democrat Party where Chucky Schumer plots with Nancy Pelosi, their plan is not to REPLACE the white people of America but at most to DILUTE their electoral influence. But you will still be right there in your trailer, where you always lived.

    Replies: @anon, @Moses

    If you were to sit in the deepest darkest cabals of the Democrat Party where Chucky Schumer plots with Nancy Pelosi, their plan is not to REPLACE the white people of America but at most to DILUTE their electoral influence.

    Why do you believe this to be true? Do you have evidence, or are you just waving your hands again?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @anon

    No, you show ME evidence that they are going to ship white people off somewhere. There is plenty of evidence that Democrats are openly plotting to INCREASE non-white numbers but none that they are plotting to DECREASE the # of white people other than thru natural attrition. I'm not counting policies such as those that cause white people to despair and take their OWN lives or OD on fentanyl.

    Replies: @anon, @Moses

    , @anon
    @anon

    Jack, I knew you would not answer that question honestly.

    Thanks for living down to my expectations.

  106. @B36
    @yani_the_elder7

    Also, what happened to all the Jewish doctors? Sometimes it looks like half the doctors in our community are Indian or Pakistani now.

    Replies: @nymom

    The elderly doctors are all Jewish but I guess we are now seeing the results of discrimination against Whites (which Jews fall under that heading) in medical schools and now most doctors (at least in NY) are Indian or Pakistani…

    Personally, I haven’t seen a drop in medical care/knowledge among them as yet; but I have noticed a significant drop in medical care/knowledge among female doctors…including vets for pet care.

    This appears to be the result of allowing candidates into medical school without the applicable grades/knowledge in an attempt to ‘cook the numbers’…

    Sadly, I have a sneaky feeling this is just the beginning of the decline in the US medical profession.

  107. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    But is Bloomberg actually loyal to the vast millions of white gentile Americans who’ve made his wealth possible? No, he is not.
     
    In what sense is he disloyal? By current Democrat standards he is conservative and most of the other Democrat candidates are far more "disloyal".

    America has been very, very, very good to the Jews. But have Jews been very good for America? No.
     
    Bloomberg didn't obtain his wealth by theft. Bloomberg developed and built a computerized system to provide real-time market data, financial calculations and other financial analytics to Wall Street firms. Remember this is 1981 when not everyone (actually no one) had an internet connection that provided real time market data and few even had PCs. Presumably the value created by the Bloomberg terminals (far) exceeded the (high) cost of their rental or else the Wall St. houses would not have paid for them. So I would say that at least Bloomberg was good for America in that he added to the nation's overall wealth (and not just his own). Not to mention the 20,000 (largely non-Jewish) people who are employed by Bloomberg. Was Jonas Salk good for America? Hyman Rickover? Edward Teller?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @nymom, @Moses

    Bloomberg was Mayor here for 12 years and I have to say: “He wasn’t the worse Mayor NYC has ever had…

    Actually I am thinking our current Mayor de Blasio could be tying David Dinkins as one of the worse Mayors we have ever had; but, of course, I don’t know everyone who has ever been Mayor in NYC.

  108. @anon
    @Jack D

    If you were to sit in the deepest darkest cabals of the Democrat Party where Chucky Schumer plots with Nancy Pelosi, their plan is not to REPLACE the white people of America but at most to DILUTE their electoral influence.

    Why do you believe this to be true? Do you have evidence, or are you just waving your hands again?

    Replies: @Jack D, @anon

    No, you show ME evidence that they are going to ship white people off somewhere. There is plenty of evidence that Democrats are openly plotting to INCREASE non-white numbers but none that they are plotting to DECREASE the # of white people other than thru natural attrition. I’m not counting policies such as those that cause white people to despair and take their OWN lives or OD on fentanyl.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D

    No, you show ME evidence

    Do they teach logic in law school? You made an assertion. The onus is on you to support it.

    that they are going to ship white people off somewhere.

    Do they teach logic in law school? Do you know what a "strawman" is?

    There is plenty of evidence that Democrats are openly plotting to INCREASE non-white numbers but none that they are plotting to DECREASE the # of white people other than thru natural attrition.

    That natural attrition will look a lot like, oh, a plant that slowly withers due to lack of water, won't it?

    I’m not counting policies such as those that cause white people to despair and take their OWN lives or OD on fentanyl.

    Why are you not counting such policies?

    , @Moses
    @Jack D


    There is plenty of evidence that Democrats are openly plotting to INCREASE non-white numbers but none that they are plotting to DECREASE the # of white people other than thru natural attrition.

     

    Oh dear.

    The demoralization campaign to discourage Whites from having children is everywhere for anyone who cares to look.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEjA_1VXgAAJ3Xy.jpg

  109. @Bardon Kaldian
    When I think of American presidents & influential people in the early US history- say, 1780-1820 - Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, both Adamses, Madison, Monroe, Hamilton, ..these guys were: a) sages, you just read something they'd written, b) mature, but not too old.

    Now, things are topsy-turvy. Presidents are either too young or absurdly geriatric. In both cases, they're almost illiterate, just skim through their (mostly ghostwritten) "works" & you won't find anything in them.

    Intellectual life of the ruling elite has plummeted abysmally. Just take the incredible output of Henry Adams: historian, writer, globetrotter, whatnot, with his sadly neglected monumental historical work on America (more than 2,800 pages), not to mention his true masterpieces & huge correspondence. Who, among patricians, can measure up to just 30% of Henry Adams?

    And presidents are entertainers. Not only entertainers, I'm not trying to depreciate them; just, in comparison with old sages ... pooh.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Too bad he was an anti-Semite but I think that being an anti-Semite before the Holocaust was different than being one after.

    I have the feeling that a lot of folks here would like to get back to the point where it is possible to be a polite or rational anti-Semite or eugenicist but I think the Nazis irreparably soiled the brand and you are never getting back there. It’s like Ayds candy – sometimes you just have to throw in the towel. That there are still drooling (neo) Nazi anti-Semites around only makes matters worse. Even if you are a impeccable gentleman and scholar like Adams, you are going to get put in the bucket with the skinhead with the Swastika sleeve tattoos.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    While I don't applaud Adams' misojudaism, I understand it & to a degree I agree with him. Henry Adams was simply reacting to an alien body threatening the very fabric of his historical identity & culture, something which is perfectly natural & normal (when we put aside all exaggerations, myopia, prejudice, stereotypes about bankers etc.)

    Because most specifically US Jewish socio-cultural activism - not contribution to yet not open disciplines in humanist & social sciences, exact sciences etc.- was, whether one likes it or not, subversive of historical American culture. I don't think in terms of conspiracy, but it seems to be the case of incompatibility of temper/Weltanschauung. Other European ethnics like Poles, Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, Irish (are they ethnics?)..simply didn't behave that way.

    In a telling story, such a good man like Paul Gottfried openly confesses that he despised WASPs because of their lack of will to remain dominant & domineering. This remarkable honesty needs some unpacking: Gottfried says he loathed WASPs. Why? Because of their Genteel tradition, perceived weakness & super-high tolerance toward Jewish upstarts. Instead of gratitude & loyalty, Gottfried (who is, ultimately, a good guy)- feels contempt. I can't find this video just now, but it exists.

    If this is not hostility toward an exceptionally generous host-I don't know what it is.

    Replies: @Jack D, @black sea

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D

    The immediacy of WWII as a historical event is being kept alive by Boomers. It gets weaker with every subsequent generation. Moreso given the cultural dilution of the West. Pretty soon it will just be one war among many - of little more consequence than the Napoleonic wars. The history of your people is not special, absent the concerted efforts of your tribe to make it so. People grow tired of special pleading after a while.

  110. @indocon
    @Anonymous Jewish girl

    "also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don’t get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators"

    Pretty soon, you will find yourself in a country of only yourself and POC's, enjoy, and better have a plane to deal with them.

    Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker, @Don't Look at Me

    “better have a plane to deal with them.”

    I recommend the B-2 bomber.

  111. anon[301] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @anon

    No, you show ME evidence that they are going to ship white people off somewhere. There is plenty of evidence that Democrats are openly plotting to INCREASE non-white numbers but none that they are plotting to DECREASE the # of white people other than thru natural attrition. I'm not counting policies such as those that cause white people to despair and take their OWN lives or OD on fentanyl.

    Replies: @anon, @Moses

    No, you show ME evidence

    Do they teach logic in law school? You made an assertion. The onus is on you to support it.

    that they are going to ship white people off somewhere.

    Do they teach logic in law school? Do you know what a “strawman” is?

    There is plenty of evidence that Democrats are openly plotting to INCREASE non-white numbers but none that they are plotting to DECREASE the # of white people other than thru natural attrition.

    That natural attrition will look a lot like, oh, a plant that slowly withers due to lack of water, won’t it?

    I’m not counting policies such as those that cause white people to despair and take their OWN lives or OD on fentanyl.

    Why are you not counting such policies?

  112. @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Too bad he was an anti-Semite but I think that being an anti-Semite before the Holocaust was different than being one after.

    I have the feeling that a lot of folks here would like to get back to the point where it is possible to be a polite or rational anti-Semite or eugenicist but I think the Nazis irreparably soiled the brand and you are never getting back there. It's like Ayds candy - sometimes you just have to throw in the towel. That there are still drooling (neo) Nazi anti-Semites around only makes matters worse. Even if you are a impeccable gentleman and scholar like Adams, you are going to get put in the bucket with the skinhead with the Swastika sleeve tattoos.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Mr. Anon

    While I don’t applaud Adams’ misojudaism, I understand it & to a degree I agree with him. Henry Adams was simply reacting to an alien body threatening the very fabric of his historical identity & culture, something which is perfectly natural & normal (when we put aside all exaggerations, myopia, prejudice, stereotypes about bankers etc.)

    Because most specifically US Jewish socio-cultural activism – not contribution to yet not open disciplines in humanist & social sciences, exact sciences etc.- was, whether one likes it or not, subversive of historical American culture. I don’t think in terms of conspiracy, but it seems to be the case of incompatibility of temper/Weltanschauung. Other European ethnics like Poles, Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, Irish (are they ethnics?)..simply didn’t behave that way.

    In a telling story, such a good man like Paul Gottfried openly confesses that he despised WASPs because of their lack of will to remain dominant & domineering. This remarkable honesty needs some unpacking: Gottfried says he loathed WASPs. Why? Because of their Genteel tradition, perceived weakness & super-high tolerance toward Jewish upstarts. Instead of gratitude & loyalty, Gottfried (who is, ultimately, a good guy)- feels contempt. I can’t find this video just now, but it exists.

    If this is not hostility toward an exceptionally generous host-I don’t know what it is.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I have the feeling that you are completely misunderstanding what he is saying.

    In the 1st half of the 20th century, American Jewish culture was very assimilationist. All the Hollywood movie moguls, Irving Berlin, Jack Bennie, George Burns, Groucho Marx - they all took pains to project themselves as Americans and not Jews. American Jews were as patriotic as anyone during WWII. American Jewish scientists looked upon WASP scientists as their mentors and role models - there were no Jewish role models to begin with because Jews had been largely absent from science in the shtetl. The call letters of the Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD in honor of Eugene V. Debs. My late father in law was named Eugene for the same reason. Philip Roth said that in his almost 100% Jewish high school, not one boy wore a kippah - Orthodoxy was for your grandpa.

    American Jews only lost confidence in American civilization when American civilization lost confidence in itself. American now is like a fatherless child.

    BTW - I like the attempt to re-brand anti-Semitism as misojudaism. Much better to rebrand. I like miso soup.

    , @black sea
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Paul Gottfried openly confesses that he despised WASPs because of their lack of will to remain dominant & domineering.
     
    You are correct in claiming that Gottfried says this; I've watched the same interview myself. However, it is a perhaps unfortunate, but nevertheless quite normal reaction, to feel contempt for someone in a position of authority who fails to decisively exercise that authority.

    We will excuse and even sympathize with those who dither and demean themselves with excessive self-criticism if they are at or below our same level, but we won't tolerate it in someone deemed to be our superior. We're primates, after all, and when the betas smell weakness, they start plotting an overthrow.

    There's a very nice line in the book "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" in which Jim Williams, the social arriviste from a decidedly humble background, recounts with a hint of malice the slow financial and hierarchical decline of Savannah's aristocrats, who are eventually "left with nothing but their lovely manners."

    "Anyway," he sniffs, "nobility is better."

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  113. @Bardon Kaldian
    @HunInTheSun

    Astor, Rockefeller.... It seems Germans in America are more interested in making money than producing ideas.

    Replies: @HunInTheSun

    Astor, Rockefeller, them too! Ideas? America’s Anglo-Saxon Founders took care of the political ideas, if you refer to men of letters there’s Mencken and Vonnegut.

  114. When will the SPLC declare the posting of 2/19 as a anti-semitic hate ratio?

  115. @Daniel H
    Clear that a lot of billions were made (siphoned off) in the rape of Soviet Union economy. Thank you Larry Summers.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @lavoisier

    Clear that a lot of billions were made (siphoned off) in the rape of Soviet Union economy. Thank you Larry Summers.

    One of the richest Jewish individuals on the list, Zuckerberg, ripped off the idea for Facebook from the people who had hired him to work for them! How about that for loyalty.

    Lots of thieves on this list and more a reflection of immorality and an ability to “pull a fast one” than creativity and genius.

    And Nobel Prizes in the hard sciences require being in a position with adequate funding to make those seminal discoveries. If you think ethnic networking plays no role in getting access to research dollars you are sadly very mistaken.

    Sorry Steve.

    I acknowledge Jewish talent and hard work. But ethnic networking and an ability to cast ethics aside in pursuit of personal ambition is at much at work here as talent.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @lavoisier

    Elena Kagan and Sheryl Sandberg are the posters girls for Jewish nepotism, woefully unqualified but both given big legs up by Larry Summers.

  116. @Anonymous Jewish girl
    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people being so successful and rich.
    First, you didn't allow us to own farms and cattle in Europe and when we shifted to money lending and mercantile businesses , Christ suckers started accusing us of usury.
    Antisemitism nowadays seems to be "rooted less in religion or contempt and more rooted in envy, jealousy and fear" of Jewish affluence, and the hidden power of "Jewish money". which all are nothing but Conspiracy Theories.
    Jews on an average have a very high IQ (Don't you so called HBD guys believe in this). That's why, we are able to succeed in almost all the fields of life.
    Jews have also worked to ensure that People of Color and Working Class don't get oppressed by Hillbilly turned White Trash Senators.

    Replies: @SFG, @Peterike, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Monsieur Psychosis, @MBlanc46, @Colin Wright, @indocon, @Reg Cæsar, @yani_the_elder7, @anon, @Hibernian, @anon, @Moses

    I fail to understand why so many people have problem with Jewish people

    I think you answered your own question with this post.

    Thank you, drive thru.

  117. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    While I don't applaud Adams' misojudaism, I understand it & to a degree I agree with him. Henry Adams was simply reacting to an alien body threatening the very fabric of his historical identity & culture, something which is perfectly natural & normal (when we put aside all exaggerations, myopia, prejudice, stereotypes about bankers etc.)

    Because most specifically US Jewish socio-cultural activism - not contribution to yet not open disciplines in humanist & social sciences, exact sciences etc.- was, whether one likes it or not, subversive of historical American culture. I don't think in terms of conspiracy, but it seems to be the case of incompatibility of temper/Weltanschauung. Other European ethnics like Poles, Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, Irish (are they ethnics?)..simply didn't behave that way.

    In a telling story, such a good man like Paul Gottfried openly confesses that he despised WASPs because of their lack of will to remain dominant & domineering. This remarkable honesty needs some unpacking: Gottfried says he loathed WASPs. Why? Because of their Genteel tradition, perceived weakness & super-high tolerance toward Jewish upstarts. Instead of gratitude & loyalty, Gottfried (who is, ultimately, a good guy)- feels contempt. I can't find this video just now, but it exists.

    If this is not hostility toward an exceptionally generous host-I don't know what it is.

    Replies: @Jack D, @black sea

    I have the feeling that you are completely misunderstanding what he is saying.

    In the 1st half of the 20th century, American Jewish culture was very assimilationist. All the Hollywood movie moguls, Irving Berlin, Jack Bennie, George Burns, Groucho Marx – they all took pains to project themselves as Americans and not Jews. American Jews were as patriotic as anyone during WWII. American Jewish scientists looked upon WASP scientists as their mentors and role models – there were no Jewish role models to begin with because Jews had been largely absent from science in the shtetl. The call letters of the Yiddish radio station in NY was WEVD in honor of Eugene V. Debs. My late father in law was named Eugene for the same reason. Philip Roth said that in his almost 100% Jewish high school, not one boy wore a kippah – Orthodoxy was for your grandpa.

    American Jews only lost confidence in American civilization when American civilization lost confidence in itself. American now is like a fatherless child.

    BTW – I like the attempt to re-brand anti-Semitism as misojudaism. Much better to rebrand. I like miso soup.

  118. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    But is Bloomberg actually loyal to the vast millions of white gentile Americans who’ve made his wealth possible? No, he is not.
     
    In what sense is he disloyal? By current Democrat standards he is conservative and most of the other Democrat candidates are far more "disloyal".

    America has been very, very, very good to the Jews. But have Jews been very good for America? No.
     
    Bloomberg didn't obtain his wealth by theft. Bloomberg developed and built a computerized system to provide real-time market data, financial calculations and other financial analytics to Wall Street firms. Remember this is 1981 when not everyone (actually no one) had an internet connection that provided real time market data and few even had PCs. Presumably the value created by the Bloomberg terminals (far) exceeded the (high) cost of their rental or else the Wall St. houses would not have paid for them. So I would say that at least Bloomberg was good for America in that he added to the nation's overall wealth (and not just his own). Not to mention the 20,000 (largely non-Jewish) people who are employed by Bloomberg. Was Jonas Salk good for America? Hyman Rickover? Edward Teller?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @nymom, @Moses

    Hi Fellow Jew Jack,

    There is no denying that Jews like Bloomberg, Salk et al have contributed to America through their achievements.

    I think the point Dad is making is that Jews tend to use the wealth they create in ways that advance Jewish interests at the expense of American Gentile interests. The net effect of Jewish wealth creation is negative for non-Jewish Americans.

    Endless agitation for non-White immigration, $38 billion in aid while Americans hurt, media control pushing anti-White narratives, “White Privilege”, manipulation to send America’s sons to get limbs blown off in mideast sh*tholes to defend Israel — the list goes on and on.

    We Jews would be well served to recognize how good we have it in America, focus on benefits to America instead of to our own group and stop imagining our White Gentile countrymen as potential Cossacks.

    Shalom.

  119. @Jack D
    @houston 1992


    our elites will stop trying to replace us.
     
    "The Jews will not replace us" is kind of a catchy slogan, sort of like "Black Lives Matter" but it really doesn't withstand scrutiny. If you were to sit in the deepest darkest cabals of the Democrat Party where Chucky Schumer plots with Nancy Pelosi, their plan is not to REPLACE the white people of America but at most to DILUTE their electoral influence. But you will still be right there in your trailer, where you always lived.

    Replies: @anon, @Moses

    But you will still be right there in your trailer, where you always lived.

    Come on Jack. We Jews are better than hating on poor Whites.

  120. @Hail
    @Dmitry

    Twin infants at 57? How?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anon, @IHTG, @Alden

    Another miracle of modern medicine. She may have had a few eggs left. May have had them frozen earlier. Someone else’s eggs, someone else’s sperm there are various methods.

    Great face lift though. See how natural her eyes look?

  121. @Jack D
    @anon

    No, you show ME evidence that they are going to ship white people off somewhere. There is plenty of evidence that Democrats are openly plotting to INCREASE non-white numbers but none that they are plotting to DECREASE the # of white people other than thru natural attrition. I'm not counting policies such as those that cause white people to despair and take their OWN lives or OD on fentanyl.

    Replies: @anon, @Moses

    There is plenty of evidence that Democrats are openly plotting to INCREASE non-white numbers but none that they are plotting to DECREASE the # of white people other than thru natural attrition.

    Oh dear.

    The demoralization campaign to discourage Whites from having children is everywhere for anyone who cares to look.

  122. @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Too bad he was an anti-Semite but I think that being an anti-Semite before the Holocaust was different than being one after.

    I have the feeling that a lot of folks here would like to get back to the point where it is possible to be a polite or rational anti-Semite or eugenicist but I think the Nazis irreparably soiled the brand and you are never getting back there. It's like Ayds candy - sometimes you just have to throw in the towel. That there are still drooling (neo) Nazi anti-Semites around only makes matters worse. Even if you are a impeccable gentleman and scholar like Adams, you are going to get put in the bucket with the skinhead with the Swastika sleeve tattoos.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Mr. Anon

    The immediacy of WWII as a historical event is being kept alive by Boomers. It gets weaker with every subsequent generation. Moreso given the cultural dilution of the West. Pretty soon it will just be one war among many – of little more consequence than the Napoleonic wars. The history of your people is not special, absent the concerted efforts of your tribe to make it so. People grow tired of special pleading after a while.

  123. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    While I don't applaud Adams' misojudaism, I understand it & to a degree I agree with him. Henry Adams was simply reacting to an alien body threatening the very fabric of his historical identity & culture, something which is perfectly natural & normal (when we put aside all exaggerations, myopia, prejudice, stereotypes about bankers etc.)

    Because most specifically US Jewish socio-cultural activism - not contribution to yet not open disciplines in humanist & social sciences, exact sciences etc.- was, whether one likes it or not, subversive of historical American culture. I don't think in terms of conspiracy, but it seems to be the case of incompatibility of temper/Weltanschauung. Other European ethnics like Poles, Italians, Hungarians, Greeks, Irish (are they ethnics?)..simply didn't behave that way.

    In a telling story, such a good man like Paul Gottfried openly confesses that he despised WASPs because of their lack of will to remain dominant & domineering. This remarkable honesty needs some unpacking: Gottfried says he loathed WASPs. Why? Because of their Genteel tradition, perceived weakness & super-high tolerance toward Jewish upstarts. Instead of gratitude & loyalty, Gottfried (who is, ultimately, a good guy)- feels contempt. I can't find this video just now, but it exists.

    If this is not hostility toward an exceptionally generous host-I don't know what it is.

    Replies: @Jack D, @black sea

    Paul Gottfried openly confesses that he despised WASPs because of their lack of will to remain dominant & domineering.

    You are correct in claiming that Gottfried says this; I’ve watched the same interview myself. However, it is a perhaps unfortunate, but nevertheless quite normal reaction, to feel contempt for someone in a position of authority who fails to decisively exercise that authority.

    We will excuse and even sympathize with those who dither and demean themselves with excessive self-criticism if they are at or below our same level, but we won’t tolerate it in someone deemed to be our superior. We’re primates, after all, and when the betas smell weakness, they start plotting an overthrow.

    There’s a very nice line in the book “Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil” in which Jim Williams, the social arriviste from a decidedly humble background, recounts with a hint of malice the slow financial and hierarchical decline of Savannah’s aristocrats, who are eventually “left with nothing but their lovely manners.”

    “Anyway,” he sniffs, “nobility is better.”

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @black sea

    Gottfried describes, as far as I can remember, a situation where his fellow Jews are, among themselves, expressing open hostility & contempt for WASPs for letting them to the higher echelons of power & academia.

    So, I guess, WASPs should have restricted those Jews, impose quotas & keep them down. Then, Jews like Gottfried's acquaintances would whine about how they're oppressed. Gottfried was describing open antagonism (open in intra-Jewish discourse) of those supposedly assimilated Jews to the WASP high culture, manners & everything that went with it as such, not some dispassionate analysis of a weakened class.

    The class, WASPs, was friendly & open; Gottfried's interlocutors interpreted this as a weakness. This is similar to behavior of a neurotic wife who will "respect" her husband only if he beats her (probably she'll adore him for that). Gottfried should have had more moral maturity in those days.

  124. @Jack D
    @kaganovitch

    You can count Triguboff either in the Jewish column or as Chinese since he was born in China.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @sb

    A number of Australian based Jews came via China
    Something to do with China having open entry during the 1930s and 40s

  125. @lavoisier
    @Daniel H


    Clear that a lot of billions were made (siphoned off) in the rape of Soviet Union economy. Thank you Larry Summers.
     
    One of the richest Jewish individuals on the list, Zuckerberg, ripped off the idea for Facebook from the people who had hired him to work for them! How about that for loyalty.

    Lots of thieves on this list and more a reflection of immorality and an ability to "pull a fast one" than creativity and genius.

    And Nobel Prizes in the hard sciences require being in a position with adequate funding to make those seminal discoveries. If you think ethnic networking plays no role in getting access to research dollars you are sadly very mistaken.

    Sorry Steve.

    I acknowledge Jewish talent and hard work. But ethnic networking and an ability to cast ethics aside in pursuit of personal ambition is at much at work here as talent.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Elena Kagan and Sheryl Sandberg are the posters girls for Jewish nepotism, woefully unqualified but both given big legs up by Larry Summers.

  126. @black sea
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Paul Gottfried openly confesses that he despised WASPs because of their lack of will to remain dominant & domineering.
     
    You are correct in claiming that Gottfried says this; I've watched the same interview myself. However, it is a perhaps unfortunate, but nevertheless quite normal reaction, to feel contempt for someone in a position of authority who fails to decisively exercise that authority.

    We will excuse and even sympathize with those who dither and demean themselves with excessive self-criticism if they are at or below our same level, but we won't tolerate it in someone deemed to be our superior. We're primates, after all, and when the betas smell weakness, they start plotting an overthrow.

    There's a very nice line in the book "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" in which Jim Williams, the social arriviste from a decidedly humble background, recounts with a hint of malice the slow financial and hierarchical decline of Savannah's aristocrats, who are eventually "left with nothing but their lovely manners."

    "Anyway," he sniffs, "nobility is better."

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Gottfried describes, as far as I can remember, a situation where his fellow Jews are, among themselves, expressing open hostility & contempt for WASPs for letting them to the higher echelons of power & academia.

    So, I guess, WASPs should have restricted those Jews, impose quotas & keep them down. Then, Jews like Gottfried’s acquaintances would whine about how they’re oppressed. Gottfried was describing open antagonism (open in intra-Jewish discourse) of those supposedly assimilated Jews to the WASP high culture, manners & everything that went with it as such, not some dispassionate analysis of a weakened class.

    The class, WASPs, was friendly & open; Gottfried’s interlocutors interpreted this as a weakness. This is similar to behavior of a neurotic wife who will “respect” her husband only if he beats her (probably she’ll adore him for that). Gottfried should have had more moral maturity in those days.

  127. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    Fair enough. Even more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-23/jewish-australians-on-rich-list-but-one-in-five-in-poverty/11211270

    While some Jewish Australians are on the rich list, nearly one in five live in poverty


    .....
    Seven-dollar hot lunches and free entertainment.

    That's the strategy Rachel Tanny is employing at the organisation Connections, Opportunities, Activities (COA) in the Eastern Sydney suburb of Woollahra, which is the third-most advantaged Local Government Area in the country.

    She joined the not-for-profit as chief executive eight months ago, and now oversees a raft of services delivered to Jewish seniors and those with a disability. There's debt counselling and shopping assistance, phone calls for lonely individuals and Kosher Meals on Wheels. And, of course, the bi-weekly lunches in Woollahra, where clients come for the meal and stay for the dancing.

    "Because there is a sense of affluence in much of the Jewish community, there's a lot of stigma attached to financial hardship," says Ms Tanny.

    "There are a large number of people in the community experiencing [hardship], but it's not well-known because they try their best to hide it.

    "For example, most of our Meals on Wheels recipients don't want people to know that they're receiving it and to try to remove that stigma, as an organisation, we provide financial assessments which are all confidential and we reduce our prices accordingly."

    Indeed, five of the 10 richest Australians are Jewish, according to the Australian Financial Review's annual list.

    Vic Alhadeff, the chief executive of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, says it's understandable that high-achievers make headlines, but there's another statistic that's often overlooked.

    "Almost 20 per cent of the Jewish community of Australia lives below the poverty line," he says.

    Replies: @sb

    This is just propaganda.
    Sure you can find Jews in Australia who for some reason live on welfare but that’s because they choose to.
    The Australian Jewish Community looks after it’s own :- every Jew in Australia can attend a ( well financed ) Jewish school without fees if the family is broke; and every Jewish oldie can get a free place in a ( well financed ) Jewish retirement home if poor
    All those Jewish billionares need their tax deductions

  128. @anon
    @Jack D

    If you were to sit in the deepest darkest cabals of the Democrat Party where Chucky Schumer plots with Nancy Pelosi, their plan is not to REPLACE the white people of America but at most to DILUTE their electoral influence.

    Why do you believe this to be true? Do you have evidence, or are you just waving your hands again?

    Replies: @Jack D, @anon

    Jack, I knew you would not answer that question honestly.

    Thanks for living down to my expectations.

  129. @Anonymous
    @Hibernian

    I was thinking “You’re So Vain” or “Manic Monday”.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    I got your first reference right off, had to look up the second one. I think “You’re So Vain” was about one of Ms. Simon’s boyfriends, non-Jewish, I think a WASP. (Who else would walk into a party like he was walking into a yacht?)

  130. @anon
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Catholic isn't a Race.
    Let's put it this way: neither Lang Hancock or Gina Rinehart looked in any way English, and if the Jewish Press want to claim them, then it's case closed.
    https://www.gettyimages.com.au/photos/gina-rinehart?family=editorial&sort=best&phrase=gina%20rinehart

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @LondonBob, @Hibernian

    Catholic isn’t a Race.

    No, but there is a correlation between religion and ethnicity among Catholics. It’s one-to-many rather than one-to-one.

    If someone is Catholic, they’re not Jewish, because Baptism excludes them from membership in the Jewish community. (That’s not to say that their picture will be turned to the wall.)

  131. @Bardon Kaldian
    Jews have been over-represented in many fields in past 100-150 years. They are in a great creative historical phase, similar to Greeks from 600-200 BC, Italians from 1300-1600, English 1600-1800, Germans from 1730-1930 (and earlier & later, too, for all groups).

    Always there is a group that somehow sticks out. For instance, within Western culture, it is evident that fascinating corpus of written word can be read, from c. 1750 to 1850 in English, French, German, and not so much in Spanish, Portuguese, Italian or Russian. Why is this so, we don't know (except for Russian, which was not fully codified until Karamzin and Pushkin). We don't know why other great historical cultures (Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Arab, Persian,..) don't have much to offer in that period.

    It seems that there are periods of brilliance for all significant historical cultures- and then, dryness.

    As for Jews, they are even more present in the area of violin virtuosi in past 100 years & now, where they are c. 50-80% of the most acclaimed violinists. Why is it so? I don't know. Why are they not nearly represented in visual arts (which, by the way, barely exist from the 1930s)?

    I don't have a problem with any ethnicity being successful in money making; just, something I do have a problem with is Jewish anti-white activism on the part of these rich Jews, the best exemplified by Soros. Why are rich white Gentiles like Gates or Koch not only inactive, but even worse- very active in dismantling historical American nation & European peoples' nation states?

    Soros & Zuckerberg are like kidney stones; Gates and Slim are like cancer.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    “Why are rich white Gentiles like Gates or Koch not only inactive, but even worse- very active in dismantling historical American nation & European peoples’ nation states?”

    Jake, call your office.

  132. > #116 Hasso Plattner, 74, (software) with $12.7 billion

    I couldn’t find anything on Mr Plattner being Jewish or of Jewish descent.

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasso_Plattner via Google translate:
    »Hasso Plattner grew up in Berlin-Grunewald and Konstanz. His father Horst Plattner (1918-2001) was an ophthalmologist who came from Sibiu in Transylvania (Romania). Plattner studied after graduation in 1963 at the University of Karlsruhe communications engineering. He is married, has two children and lives in Potsdam-Babelsberg.«

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibiu
    »Sibiu was initially a Daco-Roman city called Cedonia.[5] The town was refounded by the Saxons (German) settlers brought there by the king Géza II of Hungary. …
    After World War I, when Austria-Hungary was dissolved, Sibiu became part of Romania; the majority of its population was still ethnic German (until 1941) and counted a large Romanian community, as well as a smaller Hungarian one. Starting from the 1950s and until after 1990, most of the city’s ethnic Germans emigrated to Germany and Austria. Among the roughly 2,000 who have remained is Klaus Johannis, the current President of Romania. «

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