More confirmation that by “revisionist” Jews mean truthful.

Nevermind Jews, how can anyone be a white nationalist? It’s so icky.

(unrelated post)

To anyone:

I’ve been trying to track down Steve’s presentation at the Hudson institute in ྟ with Thatcher re: genetic modification. I keep finding this link and even the waybackmachine can show me an index but I can’t seem to get any content. Anyone know where I can find it? This is the link

http://www.isteve.com/thatcher-speech-web_files/frame.htm#slide0001.htm

Kirchick is a conservative progressive. The prog cannot hang on to life without them. We can, and so apparently can Miller. Oy vey.

Kirchick has literally confirmed the MacDonald thesis.

If the sine non qua of a Jewish identity is supporting mass immigration…

Once again if Jews were not white they never would have been able to naturalize from the late 18th to the mid 19th century. The Naturalization Act of 1790, and several of its successors, limited naturalization to free whites of good character. European Jews were not prevented from naturalizing. I suppose an Ethiopian Jew would have. But I doubt any even tried.

I am getting tired of this Noel Ignatiev crap.

American Jews, then, have something of a communal obligation to pay it forward by supporting a liberal immigration regime. And by and large we have: Jews and Jewish organizations are very pro-immigration. This implied social responsibility doesn’t necessarily entail support for open borders. Nor does it apply to other parts of the world; continued mass Muslim immigration from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe, for example, is a portentous development that will make Jewish life there, already difficult, increasingly so. But an American Jew calling for a drastic reduction in legal immigration to America is unseemly.

Let me make sure that I have this right….He’s against restricting immigration, except when it’s obviously bad for the Jews….

>>American Jews, then, have something of a communal obligation to pay it forward by supporting a liberal immigration regime. … Nor does it apply to other parts of the world; continued mass Muslim immigration from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe, for example, is a portentous development that will make Jewish life there, already difficult, increasingly so.

So for Kirchick the immigration matter is simply contingent on what is good for his ethnic affiliates. I’m glad that he articulates this point so clearly.

They are throwing absolutely everything they can at this Stephen Miller guy. He absolutely infuriates them! An apostate in a position of power! So many reasons to like him.

My favorite part of this angry screed is the recurring subtext that if the alt-right doesn’t stop making inconvenient noise about immigration, righteous republicans will quit the right wing. That’s really rich.

If the sine non qua of a Jewish identity is supporting mass immigration…

Not sine qua non of Jewish identity, because there are exceptions…

… continued mass Muslim immigration from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe, for example, is a portentous development that will make Jewish life there, already difficult, increasingly so.

… like when it’s bad for the Jews.

A country that is politically pluralistic, open to new ideas and new people, ethnically diverse, and respectful of religious difference, is a country that will naturally be safer for Jews than a country that is none of these things

and the very next paragraph,

those white nationalists who claim a Jewish conspiracy has orchestrated untrammeled immigration to dilute America’s racial stock.

haha, wtf dude?

“I think it was growing up in California, he saw the role that mass migration played turning a red state blue,” one unidentified former Senate colleague of Miller told Politico Magazine. “He was fearful that that would happen to the rest of the country.” Miller would hardly be alone in fearing how Hispanic immigration will change America. But these were the same fears that the restrictionists of yesteryear raised about Stephen Miller’s ancestors.

Right dude, good comparison, because my understanding is that the number of illegals crossing the border every year is a good fraction of all the jews living in America, also relevant to this comparison is that I believe these mass of migrators have won something close to zero Nobel prizes, so yeah, right on, good comparison dude.

“For where else could a Stephen Miller have been created but in America, a country so open to outsiders and assimilation that a Jewish kid from Santa Monica could grow up to work for the most nakedly nativist president in living memory?”

Yeah this is so outlandish, it’s not like his genes are primarily of an insular European sort, they’re probably more akin to the genes of the poor little Indios he’s trying to oppress… right? science? anybody…

American Jews, then, have something of a communal obligation to pay it forward by supporting a liberal immigration regime.

SEE! It’s not a conspiracy! It’s a “communal obligation.”

Kirchick:

Throughout his career, Miller has gone out of his way to make people think that he belongs to this particular racial group [whites].

Huh? Citation needed.

Alt-right leader Richard Spencer—who, when I once asked him if Jews are white, peevishly replied, “Jews are Jews,” and who claims to have known Miller when they studied at Duke—recently told The Washington Post that his collegiate comrade is “not a white nationalist.” He followed this, however, with a caveat: “But you can’t be this passionate about the immigration issue and not have a sense of the American nation as it historically emerged.”

Miller/Spencer 2024! Them Duke boys are at it again!

… asked Miller if the Trump administration would forsake Emma Lazarus’ paean to “your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,” Miller accused the reporter of harboring a “cosmopolitan bias,” an indictment redolent of the Soviet-era, anti-Semitic slur, “rootless cosmopolitan.”

Not being a Lazarean? Bad for the Jews.

… continued mass Muslim immigration from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe, for example, is a portentous development that will make Jewish life there, already difficult, increasingly so.

But mass Muslim immigration? Bad for the Jews.

This provided one of the most improbable spectacles of an already bizarre presidential campaign: the nasally, nebbishy Jewish kid from Santa Monica egging on crowds of down-scale whites in middle America with attacks on coastal elites.

Working for Middle America against coastal elites? (Why are coastal elites so against them anyway?) Bad for the Jews.

The coy conflation of Jewish identity and whiteness, the revisionist undermining of America’s immigrant history, the constant cries of victimhood from someone who has benefitted enormously from the American system and who would deny its blessings to others, well, we Jews have a word for all this: chutzpah.

Not paying back the goys who built the system that blessed your ancestors by browbeating their descendants into importing more outside help dilute their interests? Bad for the Jews. (Also not chutzpah.)

First, there’s something desperately preening about Miller’s entire career, a sense that he adopts such harsh positions, and in so strident a fashion, as if to ingratiate himself with the most goyishe precincts of the Trump universe—the sort of people who might otherwise question his roots.

Question his roots? Mr. Miller should just just go whole hog, like Mr. Kirchick: make it clear that because of his roots his interests are by default against mine and they’re all he cares about. Because Good for the Jews.

At Yale (me) and Duke (him), both of us wrote provocative newspaper columns that scandalized the campus and occasionally brought us national attention. Our work caught the eye of David Horowitz, the ur-leftist turned hardcore conservative.

Just wanna make sure that you guys know that I went to Yale….whereas this Goy-worshiping upstart went to Duke (ugh)

But there are important differences in our political maturation and trajectories. Miller’s conservative awakening began in high school, whereas mine didn’t really begin until college. While I was campaigning tirelessly for Ralph Nader, he was converted to the conservative cause reading National Rifle Association chief Wayne LaPierre’s Guns, Crime and Freedom.

Talk about trailer park tier!

At Yale, whereas I lionized and made the acquaintance of erudite writers like William F. Buckley Jr. and Andrew Sullivan, Miller went the Ann Coulter-Rush Limbaugh-red-blooded outrage route, penning bombshell columns for the Duke Chronicle, which, according to the paper’s editor, were “low stakes but high offense.”

Let me spell it out for you. Me: Yale, Buckley, classy. Him: Duke, Ann Coulter, déclassé

Miller also spent time working for hard right former Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn.) and Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va.), the man who defeated the (Jewish) House Majority Leader Eric Cantor in a spectacular upset largely triggered by the latter’s support for immigration reform. In 2014, Miller was instrumental in helping Sessions to defeat the Gang of Eight legislation that offered a route to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

Yeah, that’s right. He helped to unseat a fellow Jew.And it wasn’t for an acceptable reason, like being soft on Israel. Remember that…..

This provided one of the most improbable spectacles of an already bizarre presidential campaign: the nasally, nebbishy Jewish kid from Santa Monica egging on crowds of down-scale whites in middle America with attacks on coastal elites.

It turned my stomach, the sight of a Jew actually taking the side of those flyover-country hicks…..

I don’t doubt the sincerity of Miller’s views. He is clearly well-versed in the policy particulars, and gives articulate voice to ideas shared by tens of millions of my fellow Americans.

This is real progress. You would never have heard anything remotely like this from our elites one year ago.

Job One is not Quality, it’s making the USA safe for the Jews.
If you recall, the USA was very unsafe for the Jews in the 1950s. As Sailer has documented, new-money Jews were shut out of the old-money Jewish country clubs. Very unsafe indeed.
Whites are to blame for that, as Whites are also to blame for the job postings that never actually read “Irish Need Not Apply”.

To cite a bit of wisdom from that great American Jewish philosopher Groucho Marx: It’s sad that Miller has become a mouthpiece for a group that won’t accept him as a member.

What he ‘”cites”‘ from Groucho Marx doesn’t even qualify as wrong. It might well work as a mental viaduct (cf. Groucho’s “why-a-dog?”) – – into blah-blah-land though.

Why isn’t it bad for Jews here?

It is.

Kirchick isn’t being pragmatic or even rationally self-interested here; he’s just a committed ideologue.

I went to Samohi around the same time as Stephen Miller.

I don’t know what Kirchick means by “suburbia” but it’s my recollection that we in the elite heart of the nation’s second largest city mocked suburbia.

If he just means white and homogenous then he’s definitely wrong. The Samohi we attended is probably one of the most diverse high schools in the world. I was told by our (non-white) principal that we had students who spoke some three dozen languages* at home.

“Of the student population, 45% are Caucasian** 34% are Hispanic or Latino, 11% are African American, 8% are Asian and 0.2% are Native American”

Keeping in mind we had around 3500 students. Stephen Miller’s and my high school was like a microcosm of a bustling, chaotic, diverse city–not at all like the microcosm of a “community” as ive been seeing high school depicted in tv and movies my whole life.

You didn’t know most of the people and had nothing in common with most of them. There were angry BLM and La Raza type rallies on campus. The cross country team looked nothing like the football team. Stephen Miller’s class-classmates looked nothing like his school-classmates.

But while someone like Stephen Miller might be noticing things he’s also being indoctrinated by his nice white lady teachers on how liberal we must be. (for example, one afternoon of non-stem classes in 10th grade featured white female teachers ages 22, 25, 32 from UCLA, Santa Cruz and Berkeley). And I don’t mean a moderate form of liberal indoctrination. After all, this is the people’s republic of santa Monica, the home of the homeless.

FWIW my recollection is that while Gore won the school vote Bush came in third behind Nader.

Where did Stephen Miller go wrong? Probably a glitch in the matrix: I’ve known many upper-middle class Jews and most have never left the bubble. Samohi was one place where it could happen to the son of an elite liberal could experience the bubble and reality at the same time. It makes a careful observer hard to trick since, to liberals’ great shock and dismay, unfamiliarity with the approved doctrine is not Miller’s problem.

*Off the top of my head–not scrolling through some facebook list–I had pretty close friends who spoke 10 different languages with their parents.

**this includes a LOT of diversity in Los Angeles.

You may have come across it, but on some obscure forum, someone apparently transcribed the slides…do a ctrl-f for “Here’s the text from the slides”

http://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187686

And I imagine you’re aware of the article/speech(?) version:
http://sagamoreinstitute.org/ao/index/article/id/1280

I couldn’t stomach all the disgusting propaganda of this vile infiltrator, but I would point out one thing

“Miller would hardly be alone in fearing how Hispanic immigration will change America. But these were the same fears that the restrictionists of yesteryear raised about Stephen Miller’s ancestors.”

Those restrictionists’ fears were highly justified, as evidenced by American culture coming to be dominated by people who want to erase and replace the founding stocks of the US.

Apparently the fact that the US is culturally and racially much, much, much, much more Diverse than in 1965 (let alone 1865) is not enough for our dear “conservative” friend Kirchick. Jews apparently have to keep welcoming a million new immigrants per year, the vast majority of whom are more racially alien to Jews than whites are, in order to remain Jews in good standing.

I love how he refers to immigration restrictionists as “my fellow Americans,” as if he actually considers them as his fellow countrymen instead of deplorables needing replaced by Vibrant Immigrants of Color.

Perhaps it is true that a majority of the more orthodox religious Jews would favor slashing immigration, but the overwhelming majority of the declining secular group favors it out of naked ethnic animus.

The majority of US immigration today is from Latin America and East/South Asia. Pakistanis are not yet that prominent, though they would be if H. Clinton had stolen the election and signed the TiSA treaty.

But the majority of immigration to Europe is coming from the Middle East, the non-EU Muslim Balkans, North Africa, and increasingly from sub-Saharan Africa. Most sources are Muslim, with a minority of Black African Christians.

An Islamist government is near impossible to emerge from the former, unless you want to call the Venezuelan Vice President with Hezbollah ties an omen. But it is highly likely to emerge from the latter, as Islamist political parties hold offices in some EU countries.

From Kirchick’s, and his community’s perspective, the leading threat is that Middle America elects a Viktor Orban-style government backed up by a Jobbik-style opposition party.

American Jews, then, have something of a communal obligation to pay it forward by supporting a liberal immigration regime. … Nor does it apply to other parts of the world; continued mass Muslim immigration from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe,

Perhaps Kirchick should talk to Barbara Lerner Spectre. Apparently she got a different memo.

Cool story, bro.

It’s long past time to stop taking these clowns seriously. If they want to change that, they need to step up their game.

Nevermind that the way he expresses it makes no sense (he’s not citing Marx, but rather adapting a joke; it’s not wisdom, but a piece of brain-twisting humor). Why are people always misinterpreting that simple–if multilayered–Groucho joke? It’s the laziest form of journalism–which is an exceptionally lazy field, opinion-pieces being perhaps the laziest form–taking common sayings and shoehorning them into your argument without regard for possibly ending up with the opposite of their meaning.

Marx said he wouldn’t be a member of a club that WOULD accept him as a member.

Kirchick isn’t being pragmatic or even rationally self-interested here; he’s just a committed ideologue.

When it coms to gay issue he is both a committed ideologue and self-interested. He hates Putin and Trump.

Republicans have sold their souls to Russia. And Trump isn’t the only reason why.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/18/how-the-gop-became-the-party-of-putin-215387

How Putin Plays Trump Like a Piano
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/how-putin-plays-trump-like-a-piano/

I’m not crazy about “white nationalism” either. Unfortunately, the alternative on offer isn’t cosmopolitan (in the good sense) liberalism (in the traditional sense). The alternative — it’s been coming into focus pretty well in this century — is militant Negro, Latino and Muslim nationalisms that are even less appealing.

Kirchick also vehemently disliked Ron Paul when Ron was campaigning.

American conservatism is no better encapsulated today than by the self-satisfied, smirking mug of Carlson, the living embodiment of what Lionel Trilling meant when he wrote that the “conservative impulse” is defined by “irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas.”

It amazes me that such demonization is openly tolerated in the establishment press. Why should anyone ever get involved the political process if the elite view you as no better than an animal.

If he understands it’s bad for Jews in Europe, then he’s on the verge of understanding it’s bad for us in America too. Just give him a little time. Like Peter Beinart, he’s becoming less of an idiot every day.

Those restrictionists’ fears were highly justified, as evidenced by American culture coming to be dominated by people who want to erase and replace the founding stocks of the US.

Shall we also regret the arrival of the ancestors of the Minnesota Lutherans who are now so eager to import Somalis? And the ancestors of the Episcopalians (if you’ll check out what their leaders are up to on the immigration front)?

Thank God our Jews are so much better than yours.

Let me make sure that I have this right….He’s against restricting immigration, except when it’s obviously bad for the Jews….

Yup. He’s probably also against nationalism, except when (as in the case of Zionism) it’s good for the Jews.

Optimistic. But of course this wouldn’t turn Kirchick into a Trumpian populist. He’d just be another David Frum.

As far as Jewish opinion-makers go, recruitment (of additional Stephen Miller types) seems like a more promising avenue than persuasion. They must be out there.

1 Corinthians 8

I don’t enjoy criticizing the culturally deracinated “weaker brother” WASP, the same as I am reluctant to do to my Appalachian drug-abusing brethren. Sure, their problems are their own damn fault. But they live in a failed society that they feel powerless to change.

While you are certainly kinder to us than your organizational leaders are, that isn’t enough. Pointing at the WASP is “whataboutism”. Your organizations (ADL, AJC, HIAS, AIPAC) have been leading the charge for mass immigration, and your billionaires provide the funding.

Lone indiviual dissent means nothing until there are self-identified Jewish organizations that explicity recognize our rights to an ethnoreligious supermajority, and condemn the subversive cultural rot. And most importantly, to recognize the hate that allows people like Harvey Weinstein to commit rapes for three decades.

“A country that is politically pluralistic, open to new ideas and new people, ethnically diverse, and respectful of religious difference, is a country that will naturally be safer for Jews than a country that is none of these things,”

Kirchick’s arguments may be just cover for his perceived ethnic interest. But assuming that he actually believes what he writes, as I’m sure he would insist he does, there is a flaw in his assumptions. He assumes that political pluralism and openness are immutable features set in stone no matter what (or who) happens. In reality, though, they are finite quantities that diminish through use, which is to say they follow the law of diminishing returns. Pluralism and openness can’t continue increasing indefinitely because that would lead to ultimate atomization and self-negation.

The Ottoman empire, for example, had to be ruthlessly authoritarian precisely because it included too many different peoples, i.e., its aggressive openness to new people made it extremely pluralistic. But as Lee Kuan Yew (PBUH) observed, “In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion.” So how did the Ottomans square that circle? With a politically all-powerful Sultan and a politically impotent everybody else.

Will everyone voting based on race and religion be good for the Jews, James?

Political pluralism is actually a side-effect of ethnic homogeneity. Only a relatively homogeneous society can sidestep the Lee Kuan Yew Doctrine. Once pluralism and openness are pushed past their optimal utility, a place will emphatically not be naturally safer Jews. How did the end game of the pluralistic Ottoman empire work out for the Jews? How did the end game of the aggressively-absorbed-too-many-new-people Russian empire and Soviet empire work out? Etc.

Miller probably foresees this. Kirchick does not. There’s another difference for you, James.

Americans in the 1920s foresaw this too and closed the borders for a period of assimilation, resulting in the period of maximum Jewish achievement (also maximum American achievement, if Kirchick cares.)

[Miller’s] improbable existence as a Woody Allen character who talks like Pat Buchanan is a near-comical rebuke to those white nationalists who claim a Jewish conspiracy has orchestrated untrammeled immigration to dilute America’s racial stock.

Or maybe Miller’s just a part of the Zionist conspiracy in Trump’s cabinet instead. Zionists are big on walls, aren’t they?

First, there’s something desperately preening about Miller’s entire career, a sense that he adopts such harsh positions, and in so strident a fashion, as if to ingratiate himself with the most goyishe precincts of the Trump universe …

Now that just made me double over with laughter: “the most goyishe precincts of the Trump universe”. Is he referring to that part of the Trump universe that falls outside his family and cabinet?

BTW, for those of you who don’t remember, Kirchik gained a certain notoriety in the summer of 2016 for stating that, if Trump won the election, there could be a coup against him: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-kirchick-trump-coup-20160719-snap-story.html

Kirchik must have high-level sources.

“On a personal level, [Steve Miller] is annoying.” The author of this bon mot might also be of the opinion that Al Capone was a most annoying wop, particularly when ole Al was swinging a hot bat and someone’s head got in the way when he was trying to hit a hanging curve ball . . .

“Shall we also regret the arrival of the ancestors of the Minnesota Lutherans who are now so eager to import Somalis?”

It’s getting that way…

Brings to mind a crimethought I have harbored about “diversity” in the academic community.

The reason for the scare quotes is that there are two kinds of diversity relating to two distinct populations. The Federal kind, not completely but in large part, has to do Social Justice for persons whose ancestors endured the Middle Passage. The State University kind has to do with foreign students paying out-of-state tuition.

That said, the value of the diverse academic community is one gets to meet and teach and work side-by-side with students and colleagues from a multitude of backgrounds from across the globe, giving a member of the community the opportunity to form a unique prejudicial opinion about each cultural group.

I did a post on alt-Jew a while back. I’ve met quite a few Jews who somewhat fall into this category. I also have many Jewish readers who come close to this definition. My impression is that Jews outside the northeast are much more open minded and realistic about demographics and biology. They are also less worried about Hitler popping out from under their bed. As a result, they tend to look past the fashy aesthetic of white nationalists.

The other thing that is true of Jews who hang around white nationalists and the alt-right is they unequivocally call themselves white, American and Jewish. Being an American Jew is a unique identity within white America, but it is it still uniquely white and uniquely American. In other words, their loyalty to other Jews comes after White and American. Most of the alt-Jews I’ve met had this realization after a trip to Israel or Europe.

Shall we also regret the arrival of…

No, we do not need to regret the arrival of anyone in the past.

But it seems rather fallacious to argue that because we had mass immigration in the past, we are obligated to have mass immigration in the future.

Likewise, if warnings about immigrant quality in the past were unfounded, it does not mean we should not be concerned with immigrant quality in the future.

“Miller would hardly be alone in fearing how Hispanic immigration will change America. But these were the same fears that the restrictionists of yesteryear raised about Stephen Miller’s ancestors.”

And the restrictionists are turning out to be right if James Kirchick is supposed to be the exemplar.

Bright Young Man Kirchick forgets (or deceptively omits) that the deplorable restrictionists of yestertyear succeeded in stopping mass immigration and ushering in a period of (mostly) successful assimilation. The immigration history picture is incomplete without that.

“For where else could a Stephen Miller have been created but in America”

Bright Young Man Kirchick is apparently unfamiliar with Conservative Party Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli.

Bright Young Man Kirchick is either not bright or not honest.

He’s a gay recovering leftist.
http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2007/08/05/left_out/

Having cultural influence from the border region between the Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian Empires, your example is quite apt.

The one point I might add is that Just About All the Troubles in the World That We Worry About in the US Today can be laid at busting up both the Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian Empires (Mexican immigration? Didn’t they once have a Hapsburg ruler?), removing that authoritarian lid on cross-ethnic strife.

“Me: Yale, Buckley, classy. Him: Duke, Ann Coulter, déclassé”

Agree with your interpretation.

Kirchick’s citing of his association with notorious juicer, sodomist, junkie, AIDS hound and sometime lunatic Andrew Sullivan as an argument for Kirchick’s classy background is stretching things a bit though.

Also, Buckley’s legacy (at least his magazine) is not aging well, while Coulter is more right every day.

“A country that is politically pluralistic, open to new ideas and new people, ethnically diverse, and respectful of religious difference, is a country that will naturally be safer for Jews than a country that is none of these things,” I wrote in March of last year, in the first of what would become many pieces articulating my vehement opposition to Trump’s candidacy. …

[Miller’s] improbable existence as a Woody Allen character who talks like Pat Buchanan is a near-comical rebuke to those white nationalists who claim a Jewish conspiracy has orchestrated untrammeled immigration to dilute America’s racial stock.

Contiguous paragraphs. Did no one read this before it was published? Was it just an attempt to piss people off?

Good comment, AM.

“A country that is politically pluralistic, open to new ideas and new people, ethnically diverse, and respectful of religious difference, is a country that will naturally be safer for Jews than a country that is none of these things,”

Unless it is Israel of course.

Jews became naturalized whites hundreds of years ago. Just look at the pictures of Jesus.

Steve, way OT but I want to let you in on an obvious secret: the reason why Gladwell’s 10,000 hours is coveted as a truth is because it gives cover to those who were born genetically superior to rip off those who weren’t.

If everyone is equal but results are not then the discrepancy is 100% down to effort, and effort alone.

It’s that simple.

Pretty much everyone operates on this understanding.

The article is from the zocalopublicsquare.org website of ASU Knowledge Enterprise, Arizona State University. Even though it is from Arizona it seems to be mostly concerned with LA kind of interests. I am guessing most of the student body are refugees, from LA. Which might help to explain the longevity of Sen McCain.

“naturally be safer for Jews”

Does the author really walk around thinking other Americans are ready to band together and kill him and all other Jews? Oddly the most insane threat to ‘The Jews’ is that the entire area east and north of Israel has been lit on fire intentionally. Somebody didn’t read that letter from President Washington. Back in the day governmental protection of ‘natural rights’ for all citizens was what kept everybody safe.

“It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.” – George Washington

Didn’t Milo, when he was still on twitter, post a pic of Kirchick standing in front of Trotsky’s grave in Mexico with his fist raised? Seems like an odd thing for a “conservative” to do.

Conversos 500 years ago become Franco 80 years ago.

Plenty of European mixed Blacks – the correct term is now “Biracial” – “passed” into White in decades and centuries past. Their descendants now ARE White.

Generic American White is a very maleable and protean concept and group.

The synonym for “passing” that Kirchick doesn’t want to use is “assimilation.” Not all people who are born Jews embrace the Tribe. It isn’t just a rejection of Progressivism that is possible – some reject the Tribe itself. Some come through the gauntlet created by a Jewish Mother and end up quite despising it. Enthusiastic Conversos militantly rejecting the Tribe will continue to exist so long as ethnic Jews exist to spin them out into the world. Zionism has an equal and opposite, albeit smaller.

The late Lawrence Auster, himself born Jewish, posed this rhetorical question to his co-ethnics: Would 19th century America have allowed masses of Jews to immigrate if it had known that the price of that was that those Jews would would oppose against any sensible immigration policy in the future?

So, how much of this sort of thing is them not knowing that the goyim know, how much of it is them taunting us, and how much of it is a natural solipsism that makes women look cosmically enlightened?

The two ways for a Jewish male to be awarded the much reviled ‘honorary white man’ status–

-campaign for immigration reduction

-rape and sexually molest women over a thirty year period.

You’ll notice no room at all is given to civic nationalism. The very reasonable prospect that perhaps people of all races who are legally born here should get the benefits ahead of the 7 billion other people on the planet is pushed into the Nazi abyss. Even when a Jewish man proposes it.

The most dangerous idea that our esteemed host has ever had is not sex or racial differences, but this most moderate one.

Isn’t this a self portait of Albrecht Dürer?

Yes, you’d think identifying and sympathizing with ordinary White Americans was the worst thing that a Jew could do.
For Kirchick, Miller as a Jew is guilty of the ultimate sin: not being ethnocentric enough.
Needless to say, we Gentiles need more “traitors” like Stephen Miller.

I think Jews are in the same position as Republicans were in the 1990s to the mid-2000s. There is a powerful establishment with a certain set of ideas, and for the most part, the rank-and-file go along with it.

Like Ron Paul, or even earlier Pat Buchanan, Stephen Miller is one of the first iconoclasts to really start attracting attention.

While enmity with white Gentiles (antijaphetism) is not, on the whole, good for the Jews in America, it is very, very good for the Jewish establishment, which derives much of its power from making Jews feel they must be protected from the white Gentiles, and by allying with other groups that have resentment of whites in general. Anti-Jewish hate crimes means more Jews giving to the Anti-Defamation League, just as liberal atrocities once drove conservatives to the National Review, and maybe more support for the ADL from various Gentile grievance groups.

I think the same is likely true in Europe, to the extent that there are any Jewish elements in the European establishment.

If problems with Muslims become more and more publicized, I have a feeling that over the next decade or so, more and more Jews are going to start developing counter-establishment views on immigration, and we could get a full-scale revolt against, e.g., the ADL, the AJC, Commentary in the same way that we are now getting a revolt against the leadership of the Republican Party.

I think in general in the coming years there is going to be more of a revolt against all of the current elites in every institution, as they have all become too self-interested and stopped caring about those whom they are supposed to represent.

>80% of criminal activity is down to parenting and diet
Starch free diet could probably reduce homicides and DUIs by >50%
Starch is probably the greatest killer of all time but media jews are obsessed with guns
Better to be obsessed with gums and gum disease which costs the economy 10 bazillion every year in downtime searching for teeth donors
Pretty much >90% of the homeless have halitosis, which is the first stage of gum disease
Does the govt care? No! Yet studies show that a dental care plan alleviating and even halting periodontitis in the first 100 days can lead to a drastic 67% reduction in homicides in Chicago alone!
When you’re choosing which suburb to lie in best look a coon in the mouth than rely on federal govt averages on rental returns
Evidence against Gladwell’s 10,000 hours: Private schools, employment agencies, dating agencies, national sporting curricula, top 100 songs, fruit and vegatable stall at eater show, sunday markets
Nursing homes, schools for the slow, red lights and traffic rules in general

I’m starting to wonder if it is more correlative than causative, or at least there’s some correlation…

Stephen Miller might just be the sexiest man in the political world today. Trust me on this. You saw it with Cassandra Fairbanks on Twitter and plenty of other gals plus that one lefty woman’s bodice-ripper… Guys like that have healthy self-esteem and just aren’t drawn to lefty politics. A lot of Jews, however, don’t have Miller’s “it” factor.

Lawrence Auster also said from the time he was in middle school, girls were drawn to him for the very simple fact that he was bold in asserting himself.

Not saying it’s the only thing, but it’s huge.

he’s on the verge of understanding it’s bad for us in America too

He may come to understand it, but only when it’s too late. To quote Auster again:

The traditionalist (or reactionary) recognizes a threat to his society the moment it appears.
The conservative recognizes it only when it is too late to do anything about it.
The liberal recognizes it only after his society has been completely destroyed, if he ever even recognizes it at all.

Stephen Miller was on patriotic overdrive when he was fighting the 2013 Obama/Rubio Illegal Alien Amnesty — Mass Immigration Surge bill(S744) while he was working for US Senator Jeff Sessions. That immigration bill would have tripled legal immigration while giving amnesty to 12 to 30 million illegal alien invaders. I won’t forget that, and millions of others won’t either. That pissant Jew Kirchick can go straight to hell. Stephen Miller is a patriotic Jew who loves the United States of America.

Stephen Miller may be forgiven if he developed a certain amount of animosity against the 12 or so Republican Party Senators who voted for the 2013 Obama/Rubio immigration bill(S744). Miller is only human, and he probably knows all about the shady skulduggery of those horrible rats such as McCain, Rubio, Graham, Flake, Alexander and the other GOP Senate rats who voted for that nation-wrecking immigration bill.

Miller must ignore the screeching scoundrels such as Kirchick; Miller has bigger fish to fry.

Yes, but only because it’s bad for his tribe. That’s Steven Steinlight’s argument.

They got to go back.

Kirchick claims to favor political pluralism, but mass immigration of Third World peoples will spell the end of political pluralism in this country. No more conservative politics, which after all only appeals to white people. Democrats will rule until the whole house of cards collapses.

The gist of this piece is “we jews can never be on your side, because we are jews”. I could not have put it better myself, although maybe not quite as explicit.

and the very next paragraph,
haha, wtf dude?

I had to reread those paragraphs three times before I believed my eyes. That was a much better example of chutzpah

Stevo, I think you have to give me credit for explaining that which has confounded you so!

The Gladwellian paradox, if you will, and to give it a grander sounding nomenclature than it deserves, but to make everytone fell better:

“The only thing that separates the successful from the non-successful is the hours they put in.”

Gladwell’s 10,000 hours summation of all human achievement proves itself.

The question isn’t how Jewish was Jesus, the question is how Christ-like are Jews?

Jamie Kirchick is a member of that most un-American (Trotskyite, Zionist, etc., etc.,), intellectually confused, and slavishly conformist gaggle of faux conservatives who are commonly denoted neocons. Knowing the subject, one can predict what he will write.

Miller has written and given some of the very few political speeches that have actually inspired me. He is a gifted writer and intellectual who has maintained his independence and integrity. Much of Kirchick’s spleen can safely be attributed to envy.

Yes. The Know-Nothings were right. The immigration restrictionists in the 1920s thought you could turn people into ‘Americans’ with enough brainwa-er, education and propaganda. This was totally idiotic- just look at Europe and notice how each of the nations have their own culture, traditions, issues and rivals. Sandblasting it all and replacing it with a love of making money is unsustainable and disintegrates once the money runs out.

Hi Steve, off topic but what do you think of this year’s group of MacArthur genius grant winners?

The real difference between Kirchick and Miller is that Miller is in a position of power and influence – a highly successful young man devotedly and brilliantly serving his country; while Kirchick…. well, not so much!

“… the job postings that never actually read “Irish Need Not Apply”.”

A lot of ink has benn spilled concerning this issue. Consensus is thaat there were at least a few, mainly for household employees, mainly in the 19th century.

Mr. Marx did resign from a club that accepted him. The resignation came soon after he joined. He expected high minded discussion and instead there were just a lot of card games.

Strong argument. I changed my mind right there.

I’ve heard that Renaissance Italian depictions of Jesus are probably more accurate than either Nordic or Black/dark brown depictions of Him. Depiction above appears to be generic European, somewhere between Mediterranean and Nordic

Jews support open borders as a matter of principle. They would still support this even if immigrants were all blond blue-eyed potential Nazis. Open borders is more important than excluding Nazis or Muslims, because the former allows Jews to escape the latter.

When Jews write for other Jews, it makes Goebbels look like amateur hour. Rebroadcasting alt right memes in full with a thick saucing of naked hypocrisy for good measure.

“white nationalism” is just another reincarnation of National Socialism, the most evil belief in history.

The communists certainly did evil deeds (just like white Americans did evil deeds like slavery and wiping out the Native Americans.)

But the national socialists tried to exterminate God’s chosen people (the Jews).

This should never happen again.

However, evil never sleeps…

Very soon, I predict, we’ll see a Third Temple built in Israel. Then the messiah will come to rule as a being of light, worshipped by Jews, Christians and Mormons.

Opposing this force of Good will be the Muslims like the Iranians and Palestinians, Dunginist Russians and white nationalists (the forces of Evil).

Most likely this will lead to nuclear conflict. It’s possible we could see both Iran nuked.

Who knows? We might have to nuke Idaho and other bastions of white nationalism as well.

The so-called “Alt-right” has clearly chosen their side.

Dangerous times. But don’t say you weren’t warned. Choose your side wisely (Genesis 12:3).

What is it with these guys having absolutely no capacity for self-reflection? The parody just writes itself!

The Jesus depiction looks pretty much like a self portrait – of Albrecht Dürer, 1471-1528, painter in Nürnberg, that is.

(AD is his signature).

Very insightful comment.

he’s becoming less of an idiot every day.

Given his unalterable malice for old-stock Americans, that is bad news.

The less idiotic he becomes, the more effective his malice will become.

nebbishy Jewish kid from Santa Monica egging on crowds of down-scale whites in middle America with attacks on coastal elites.

Look at me, James.

We’re the Golem now.

it is the jew who accuses you of chutzpah while his accusation is a bigger example of chutzpah!

About as honest an admission one is likely to get that jews regard their own group interest as adverse to the majority white non-jewish population’s. Pay it forward, indeed.

If only there was a Jewish nation in the Middle East that James Kirchick could move to so that he could get away from us evil white gentiles. Unfortunately no such nation exists so he will be forced to stay in the United States against his will.

I wonder if James Kirchick supports non-Jewish immigration to Israel?

“A country that is politically pluralistic, open to new ideas and new people, ethnically diverse, and respectful of religious difference, is a country that will naturally be safer for Jews than a country that is none of these things,” I wrote in March of last year,……..

And such a country will naturally NOT be better and will NOT be safer for me and my people – the people whose ancestors founded this country. Why is that so difficult for Jews like Jamie Kirchik to understand? Or does he just not care? Is it that they only care about their own people, and the rest of us be damned.

Miller would hardly be alone in fearing how Hispanic immigration will change America. But these were the same fears that the restrictionists of yesteryear raised about Stephen Miller’s ancestors.

And, given the actions of Jamie Kirchik and many others like him, woud they have been wrong about his ancestors?

…………well, we Jews have a word for all this: chutzpah.

And why is it exactly that you have a special word for it? Does that come in handy a lot?

No it isn’t. It’s just insincere lip service. He doesn’t really regard deplorables as his fellow Americans, he regards them as deplorable. For the next election cycle we have to come up with some strategy to neutralize them somehow. The easiest one of course is to destroy their leader, Trump, and all of Trump’s enablers – Miller, Bannon, Manafort, etc. If we can render the mob leaderless then maybe they will go back to watching football and choosing between pro-immigration Democrats and pro-immigration Republicans as they should.

A typical leftist tactic is “Yes, BUT”. Yes, Miller is sincere BUT his views are horribly misguided. Yes, millions of those horrible misguided goyim have these same wrong views, BUT a Jew has no business agreeing with them. The concession (the Yes) is just a rhetorical setup so that you can proceed with the BUT that will smash it.

Also, Buckley’s legacy (at least his magazine) is not aging well, while Coulter is more right every day.

It’s interesting to wonder whether Kirchick appreciates this.

Bright Young Man Kirchick is either not bright or not honest.

But he was a young man, and that seemed to be what was important at the New Republic.

So just to be clear, it’s the white supremacist/ Neo-Nazi types who are welcoming this Jewish guy (and his black mentor) into the movement because he agrees with their ideas, and the liberals who are offended on the basis of Miller being a Jew. Doesn’t this seem a little backwards somehow?

if the alt-right doesn’t stop making inconvenient noise about immigration, righteous republicans will quit the right wing. That’s really rich.

All they need to do is stop pretending that they’re right wing.

First, there’s something desperately preening about Miller’s entire career, a sense that he adopts such harsh positions, and in so strident a fashion, as if to ingratiate himself with the most goyishe precincts of the Trump universe—the sort of people who might otherwise question his roots. …

“….most goyishe precincts……….” At least we know what Jamie really thinks of us.

His dismissal of Millers’ beliefs is pretty insulting – Miller just believes this stuff to fit in with all those mean white bullies. As if somebody growing up in Santa Monica ever even met a white nationalist. Miller probably likes the neighborhood/city/country he was born and raised in, and wants to preserve it, and he knows that the preservation of his country is not possible by opening up the flood-gates and letting the whole world in.

Kirchick had a vile article around November 3rd where he wanted to strip anyone who voted for Trump of citizenship, expose them, fire them etc. It’s disappeared down the memory hole, or my Googling is off.

Certainly Italians (who Italian painters would have used as models) look more like Ashkenazi Jews than Northern Europeans such as Dürer since Ashkenazis have Greek and Italian admixture. But we don’t have that many examples of what pre-diaspora Jews such as Jesus would have looked like.

One portrait that has come down to us is that of Josephus, a purebred (but Romanized) Jew. Jesus would not have had the Roman style haircut and clean shaven face, but he might have had the schnozz which is recognizably Jewish even today:

Very few pictures of Jesus show him with a big schnozz but that would be a pretty fair guess if not one to everyone’s liking.

Nice Auster quote.

Shall we also regret the arrival of the ancestors of the Minnesota Lutherans who are now so eager to import Somalis?

Yeah…….those lutherans:

http://lirs.org/our-work/about-us/leadership/

Chief Operating Officer — Gary Gold-Moritz
Vice President for Programs — Kay Bellor

If Ashkenazi Jews aren’t white, then what are they? I realize they are a distinct ethnic group, but if you’re going to peel them off from ‘white’, you might as well peel off the Basques, Magyars, Finns, etc.

This is very American of me but I would draw the lines at ‘Europeans who historically lived in Christendom’ regardless of their exact confessional status. Which means I would differentiate ‘acting in a stereotypically Jewish way’ from ‘being Jewish’. I mean, who do you want to be in a foxhole with, Stephen Miller or Morris Dees?

The painting is: Dürer, Self-portrait as Christ (1500) Alte Pinakothek, Munich

Albrecht Durer, a modest young fellow, painted himself as Christ. As the Bible reports, God created man in his own image, and man has been returning the favor ever since. Clean-shaven Christs are few and far between, but neither does he ever have a full neck beard, just the nicely trimmed beard and clean cut looks befitting a Virgin-born lad.

Apparently Durer did change his own hair color in order to look more divine, a practice still honored by the current occupant of the White House.

That’s not Jesus. It’s a self-portrait of Albrecht Dürer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albrecht_Dürer

That I knew what that image was the moment I saw it is a testament to my Art History 101 professor. 🙂 I always enjoyed my time in her class.

Why a duck, not dog. And it’s Chico who says it:

That was the past. The Ashkenazi Jews were Caucasians, but today they are marrying blacks/Asians in high numbers. Mark Zuckerberg is the best example, Chinese wife and offspring. The Ashkenazis are gones.

Groucho had hardly any formal education (he left school at 12) because he grew up on the vaudeville circuit. So he always craved exposure to intellectual settings and loved it when he was accepted as an intellectual equal in educated circles.

This from 11/2/16? http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/216700/who-goes-trump

It does not quite say the things you mentioned AFAICT, but the rhetoric still sounds pretty extreme.

“A country that is politically pluralistic, open to new ideas and new people, ethnically diverse, and respectful of religious difference, is a country that will naturally be safer for Jews than a country that is none of these things,”

Isn’t this Kevin MacDonald’s thesis about Jewish politics in America (however gussied up in new age bromides)?

I don’t think that’s it. It’s more extreme than that. Maybe I’m confusing Kirchick with another writer, or mashing together multiple stories in my brain.

“A country that is politically pluralistic, open to new ideas and new people, ethnically diverse, and respectful of religious difference, is a country that will naturally be safer for Jews than a country that is none of these things,” I wrote in March of last year, in the first of what would become many pieces articulating my vehement opposition to Trump’s candidacy.

I like Jews, individually. For most smart gentiles Jews are much more enjoyable company than dumb gentile jocks, or proles, or the old WASP elites earning gentleman’s Cs at the Ivies. But this statement perfectly encapsulates why Jews are a powerful subversive influence literally everywhere they go in the West.

An ethnocentric market-dominant minority will always have some interests different from those of their hosts. They will use their power to serve the interests of their small number of people at the expense of the far greater number of their hosts. Jews are ethnocentric and market-dominant par excellence, so they acquire and use more political power per capita than any other group in human history, and so serve as a staggeringly subversive influence in the West.

As Spock might say, “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.” The 12 million global Jews are causing great harm to the ~600 million members of global Europa because most of them, intrinsically–at an emotional level–share Kirchick’s attitude. He knows “what’s good for the Jews.”

Certainly Italians (who Italian painters would have used as models) look more like Ashkenazi Jews than Northern Europeans such as Dürer since Ashkenazis have Greek and Italian admixture. But we don’t have that many examples of what pre-diaspora Jews such as Jesus would have looked like.

Very few pictures of Jesus show him with a big schnozz but that would be a pretty fair guess if not one to everyone’s liking.

I think it’s more likely that stereotypical Ashkenazic features are the result of founder effects and successive cousin marriage in Eastern European shtetls than resemblances to populations that contributed some genetic admixture much earlier. One wealthy man with a big nose in a small town that practices cousin marriage is going to pass on his big nose to a lot of people.

Additionally, if the Romans thought that the ancient Jews had a distinctive look they would not have shied away from describing it in detail. I think the nose style in your picture of Josephus would be classified “Syrid.”

If we’re looking for a facsimile of what Jesus might have looked like, why would we think “Ashkenzaic” rather than the more generically Mediterranean looking Mizrahim populations?

Isn’t unlimited Muslim immigration bad for just about everyone, including Jews?

Oh, well, right! – Chico’s pronounciation kept my memory fooled – – why a “dog”?

Autumn sun, blue sky, hardly a breeze, the lake, the Rhine, a huge concrete monster of a bridge, ducks. Viaducks! – I did have my bicycle epiphany this October afternoon – and, oho: Chico: Why-a-duck?!

“Certainly Italians (who Italian painters would have used as models) look more like Ashkenazi Jews than Northern Europeans”

In general, very much no they don’t; but you wish.

Isn’t that a self portrait of Albrecht Durer? He did take some shit for the full frontal pose, which critics accused of being in mockery of JC, which may be entirely aware of and I may just be missing something. Wouldn’t the first time! When I first saw it, I thought he looked like Eric Idle.

“…white supremacist Neo-Nazi types..” -A myth, boogie men,nonsense. This would consist of a negligible statistical rounding error in terms of population.The slack-jawed idiots who prance around in such costumes would be hard-pressed to fill a grammar school classroom. But a useful myth for Kirchick and the left.

But those like Miller who are concerned with the destruction of their communities and eroding of their quality of life by unrestricted immigration are a real force. And one who’s legitimate concerns Kirichick and the GOPe have done nothing to address since 1986’s weak attempt. And in fact have instead tried to demonize anyone expressing those concerns by trying to depict them as said slack-jawed rounding errors.

2017: the year the American “intellectual elite” browbeat the public incessantly with a conspiracy theory that Russia used 100k in Facebook ads and a Pokémon app to overthrow our democratic process.

Pro-tip: hawking conspiracy theories makes you look like a moron

I think the crucial sticking point preventing Jews from being embraced as White is the overwhelming evidence that Jews define themselves in active and hostile opposition to the Whites and/or Christians around them. Exceptions exist but their exceptionalism proves the rule. It’s also worth noting the Jews who are exceptions to this rule are almost invariably welcomed by the Goys around them.

There are old photos, so they did exist.

Jesus told everyone he was so special, he was above following the Law. Or, as we modern’s call it Reform Judaism. So unfortunately Jews are rather Christ-like.

lol, racial insecurity detected

“And such a country will naturally NOT be better and will NOT be safer for me and my people – the people whose ancestors founded this country. Why is that so difficult for Jews like Jamie Kirchik to understand? Or does he just not care?”

He does not care. To the extent Jews like Kirchick feel tinges of guilt for what they’re doing, there’s a huge justification industry alleging that whites’ various historical transgressions are inconceivably and uniquely bad, and therefore whites deserve neither empathy nor sympathy.

Susan Sontag provided an expression of this projection dynamic with her statement that whites are a cancer on humanity. Similarly, flyover whites are hate hate hated because of all the propaganda against them.

To paraphrase a designation sometimes applied by the state of Israel, Auster was a Righteous Jew. (His ethnocentrism was still obvious in its purity, despite his adoption of Christianity, but Auster knew who he was.)

One of the best things about Trump is that he trolled the Neocons into saying exactly what they think of Americans: They hate them, as people. For what they are.

Having admitted they hate at least half the country ( Not to mention NPod’s My Negro Problem- And Ours, really the position that made them ‘conservative’ at all), the Neocons are wandering in the desert, no party, no country, no constituency of any kind.

Trump supporters hate them, the far Left hates them even more. May they die of thirst, and their irritating, self-important legacy publications dry up as well.

Kirchik doesn’t even understand a very straightforward Groucho Marx joke. I’d say maybe he isn’t as smart as he thinks he is, but it’s impossible to be as smart as Jamie Kirchik thinks he is.

How about this:

Veneto – “Portrait of a Man” circa 1525

I’ve always identified with my race and now refer to myself as a white nationalist or identitarian. And I’ve always identified with Ashkenazi Jews as fellow whites. As far as I’m concerned, race is something you see at a glance, with skin colour obviously playing a big role, even though it is only an indicator of race. Many Europeans can tan darker than many non-Europeans, but don’t change race when they do. Same with albino Africans, who are still black, even when their skin is white.

I was born into an entirely white society, but as that society has over the years become ever more DIVERSE, i.e. non-white, it has made me realise how fundamental race is to any deep and meaningful sense of both personal and group, i.e. genuine national, identity. I have ceased to identify with the British state I am a citizen of, and instead identify with my race.

The state wants us to believe that race is just a “social construct” when in fact it’s the state that is, as well as being an artificial economic and power-political construct. It fears and thus demonises the natural racial and ethnic foundations of genuine nationhood, because it undermines its own, deceitful claim to be a nation.

Britain, like America, is just a mercenary “patron state” deceitfully posing as a nation, in order to legitimise itself, its ruling elites and the immense power they wield and abuse.

These are revolutionary ideas, I know, but they are truthful and all that can save us, our race, and civilisation from oblivion. I elaborate on them in my blog: http://philosopherkin.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/political-implications-of-evolutionary.html

That I knew what that image was the moment I saw it is a testament to my Art History 101 professor. 🙂 I always enjoyed my time in her class.

The painting is: Dürer, Self-portrait as Christ (1500) Alte Pinakothek, Munich. Did your Art History professor not mention that?

Of course there are NO REAL portraits of Jesus as he died on the cross (so the Gospel says) on a Good Friday in Roman times prior to the invention of photography and there were no contemporary paintings or sculptures of him or his family, so ALL pictures of Jesus are portraits of models, or just imagined idealizations, however if you ask the average person to draw a picture of Jesus, it will probably be something like the Durer portrait–a white guy with long golden hair, well-proportioned, a full beard and mustache, dressed in robes, not trousers. And a large part of the reason for this is that Dürer’s image and similar paintings were very influential in Western Christianity, as your prof probably told you. So yes, this is a picture of Durer in his dressing gown with a stiff finger on the right hand where his paintbrush was airbrushed out, but that was not the intent at the time of painting.

Many of the Madonnas painted have the red-gold hair that was fashionable in 15th Century Italy. The religious figures look like the contemporaries of the artists.

Oops. My previous reply was meant as a stand-alone post, not a reply to your post.

The Ashkenazi are outmarrying in large numbers but not to Asians and especially not to blacks. If you want to see the Jewish taste in women, look at all the starlets that Weinstein hit on. I have Mischlinge nieces and nephews that look like they could sign up for the Hitler youth.

Good for Jews is meaningless test now with regard to mass Mestizo and Asian immigration.

Somalis and Haitians and Salvadorian MS13 and Mayas from Chiapas are bad for virtually all Americans because they suck up public resources far in excess of any contribution.

Hard working Indians, Chinese, and Mestizos both lower wages, helping disproportionately Jewish capital at the expense of disproportionately non Jewish labor.

Even that analysis is kind of silly though. Most Jews still need to work for a living and suffer from mass migration like all native Americans. And in my experience, the actual exploiters of low wage immigrant labor in ag, food service, and construction are not especially Jewish. On the other hand, Jew dominated Hollywood enploys a ton of blue collar union white guys at 100-250k a year. Same for finance, which is not out hiring illegals and employs a lot of middle class Americans.

Old middle class Californians like Steve and many Jews, if they purchased their house long ago, are sitting on $500,000 to $1.25 million of unrealized profits. That is a huge benefit from mass migration. But in the mean while they paid high income taxes to support the government since the migrants do not pay. Amd they have mostly lost the old good public schools. While California still has plemty of good neighborhood elementary schools, probably only 5% of high schools in urban areas are free of a large third world element.

Because buying a house in your 20s is now impossible even for young people on upper middle class tracks, the old Californians have lost the ability to have their kids settle down near them. With one kid, you perhaps can help with a home equity loan, but beyond that, they will have to be single renters or leave the state, or at best live in a very distant suburb.

In summary, the winners and losers are questions of wealth, class and age, not which of the increasing blurry white American sub-ethnicity you belong to.

“As a result, they tend to look past the fashy aesthetic of white nationalists.”

I don’t look past it so much as view it within the context of Zionism. Having admitted that I live in a fairly successful fascist state, I don’t begrudge allies having the same inter-generational security. Indeed, I think it’s necessary that they do have this for themselves, lest we both find ourselves up a creek in a world overrun by militant brown hoards.

I think the question of whether I’m “white,” is spurious. That’s only an issue for the diaspora and multi-ethnic nations to figure out. Anyone who feels strongly about their Jewishness should be here in Israel. Anyone who feels strongly about their Whiteness or American Identity should remain where they are and adjust their attitudes accordingly. Being White American, like being a Zionist, brings certain obligations. Miller appears to realize this. G-d bless him.

Note that in the 1st ad they would rather have a colored girl than an Irish one. Believe it or not, there was a time in America when colored women, uh I mean women of color, especially were prized as household help. They were considered to be especially good at cooking, an accusation that has never been made against the Irish.

The sort of people who might otherwise question his roots.

I *am* the sort of people who might question Stephen Miller’s roots. In fact, I have questioned them. I have examined them carefully — and found them healthy. Because he’s clearly on my side about the immigration issue, it’s clear his own, personal roots are not poisonous to my people. Stephen can stay.

How about you, Jamie? It looks like your own, personal set of roots are QUITE questionable. So, let’s look and see. Are YOUR roots sick, and poisonous to my people? Are YOU advocating for mass immigration of aliens hostile to me and mine? Sure looks like it.

The image that flashes in our heads when someone asks you “What did Jesus look like?” is much more recent than that. This iconic Jesus portrait:

is from 1940 by commercial artist (hack) Warner Sallman.

Even if you sort of know that this is not what the actual Jesus looked like, it what “Jesus” looks like. Jesus’s nose is so straight that it looks like he drew it with a ruler.

And such a country will naturally NOT be better and will NOT be safer for me and my people – the people whose ancestors founded this country. Why is that so difficult for Jews like Jamie Kirchik to understand? Or does he just not care? Is it that they only care about their own people, and the rest of us be damned.

Kokchoke has had the “Chosen” nonsense pounded into him the way a Catholic altar boy has had the “Holy Ghost” buggered into him his entire formative life. Because he’s a former twink and current unwanted fat effeminate fag, he tries way too hard to prove his Jewish bona fides. He hates Putin because Putin has no patience for loony buggerers. He hates Moslems for the same reason. And he wants to destroy America because it failed to protect him from bullying Jewish kids who tormented him as a queer kid.

Has not a jew eyes ? Hands, organs…

This is the ironic part – if the tables were turned and Trump and his supporters were blaming his loss on say “a media conspiracy to favor Hillary” (which would have had a million times more truth to it than a Russian conspiracy) , the same “smart people” would be laughing at the ignorant hicks and their readiness to believe in baseless conspiracy theories. “Everyone” would know that Hillary was elected due to an overwhelming wave of popular support for her policies and because Donald Trump is a foul unlikeable man and not because of any conspiracy.

Mass or even significant Third World Immigration is bad for Jews. In particular. And especially. Where are Jews employed? Mostly in Hollywood, New York Finance, the law, and Government/Media. Mass Third World immigration or even significant amounts of Third World immigration creates tremendous pressure to replace elites in ALL of those institutions with Third Worlders.

This is already the thesis of the FT article about Harvey Weinstein by Kate Muir — get rid of “White guys” which Harvey Weinstein is undoubtedly, and all that nastiness disappears.

Kirchick’s argument is one of CLASS, thinly disguised as ethnicity. ANY significant amount of Third World immigration creates the enormous financial drain that Thilo Sarrazin noted, impacting upwardly mobile Jews who cannot now find admittance to key schools like CUNY etc. because of the money being diverted to Third World welfare: food stamps, free apartments, school assistance. Which means less money for CUNY.

Jews are not concerned with immigration for Jews — any Jew who wanted out of Russia has already left. Besides the Jackson-Vanik amendment means preferences for Jews anyway. There IS a huge refugee racket in the West where Lutherans, Catholics, Jewish groups rake off tons of money “sponsoring” rapefugees and pocket most of the money. What a certain class of uber liberal, old(er) money, connected Jewish urbanite in the media and government want is CLASS WARFARE against the deplorables which is raw emotional FEELZ that most White female professionals, non-White AA professionals, etc. all indulge in.

It takes a special kind of idiot to be so addicted to FEELZ that the sugar rush of looking down on other White people takes precedence over both personal (Kirckick is White, and he’ll get Reginald Denny’d down the line just sure as the rest of the Kulaks will) and ethnic (how many Jews in Mexico’s movie industry and government and media and finance?)

Kirchick is just that kind of idiot. Addicted to FEELZ.

Are you a Trump, then?

Jack D & attilathehen:

From my perch in Sodom & Gomorrah on the Hudson (aka New York City) it appears that Ashkenazim males are definitely coupling with North East Asians. All to the detriment of Ashkenazim females. Whatever Jewish black couplings that one took place are now definitely ancient history.

I had a very nice e-mail exchange with a Jewish American who works in a Mid West Big Ten law school. He tried to do some modest patriotic immigration restriction activism in his academic/Jewish social circles and had no success – we’re talking things like trying to limit Islamic extremists from flooding in to the USA or Europe.

I explained my experience as a Midwestern WASP White guy who lived in New York City, got an MBA from Stern NYU and left immigration anarchy, race/crime anarchy ~ 1990. I went to grad school a block from the World Trade Center which the Islamists bombed in 1993 then destroyed in 2001.

I had lots of Jewish friends and contacts and extensive pretty much mainstream Conservative/GOP experiences.

I found American Jews to be simply bat S*** crazy on the issue of immigration. Sometimes I slip and think there is some hope for improvement in this area, but then I realize there is not.

American Jews are good or very good at many things. They are not good on immigration. They suck – from Emma Lazarus, to Milton Friedman, to Ayn Rand Rosenbaum to Tamar Jacoby to Eric Cantor and every single Jewish Congressman and US Senator that all receive F immigration grades from NumbersUSA – Jews suck on immigration.

That’s life.

I will vote for a crack cocaine Black lowest life like Marrion Barry before I will vote for open borders Lib Left/Neo Conservative Jews.

Again, that’s life.

Kind of like Harry Weinstein’s Hollywood not producing a lot of positive, wholesome, pro American movies coming out at Christmas, instead we get hate White people snuff films like “D’jango Unchained”.

Kirchick is obviously trying to browbeat Miller into toeing the line, annoyingly for him Stephen Miller cares much more about being an American than he does about being a Jew. In Kirchick’s twisted world the two simply do not mix, you’re either a Jew or a patriotic American, you can’t be both. As far as he’s concerned Jews can only be loyal to one nation and that is Israel.

In fact I think that’s the biggest difference between liberal Jews and conservative Jews. Many liberal Jews (like Bernie Sanders) have abandoned Israel (and foolhardily embrace Islam), while many conservative Jews continue to be Israel’s most loyal supporters, like Paul Wolfowitz and Jared Kushner. Liberal Jews buy into the multiculturalism, open borders mantra eyes wide shut because they think it really is better for the world(they drank the kool-aid), while the conservative Jews buy into it eyes wide open because they think it’s what best for Jews.

Off topic, but the VP of Diversity got into trouble at Apple for being too inclusive:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/14/apple-vp-of-diversity-apologizes-for-suggesting-diversity-of-thought-is-important/

That’s a shrinking minority. Also, Hollywood is gone. Why? Jews run it now. When the Hays Code and Catholic Decency League ended, so did Hollywood. But we are living in different times because of technology, but that’s a discussion for another day. Jews/blacks/Asians ruin everything. Here’s an interesting list:

Idina Menzel (Jewish) black ex husband Taye Diggs; Andrea Mitchell (J) first husband black Gil Jackson now married Alan Greenspan;
Rod Carew black athlete, first wife Jewish Michelle Levy; Lena Horne – J husband Lennie Hayton; Bliss Broyard black J husband Nico Israel; Jason Riley (Wall Street writer) married to Jewish Naomi Schaefer; Eartha Kitt daughter Kitt Shapiro (black) has a Jewish husband;
Martine/Martin Rothblatt (J) black wife Bina Aspen; magician David Blaine offspring of black Puerto Rican father/Ashkenazi mother; Matt Stone Jewish (South Park) has a black wife;
Geraldo Rivera offspring of black Puerto Rican father/Ashkenazi mother; Rita Moreno black Puerto Rican J husband Leonard Gordon;
Sidney Lumet (J) married Lena Horne black daugher Gail; Jenny Lumet black Jewish daughter Sidney Lumet married Alex Weinstein;
Anna Stubblefield (J) professor with black ex husband; Allen Shawn (J) black exwife Jamaica Kincaid; Rebecca Hall black British actress married Jewish
Morgan Spector; Werner Klemperer (J) black wife; Harry Belfaonte Jewish wife; Julian Bond Jewish wife Pamela Horowitz; Kamala Harris black/Asian – Jewish husband Douglas Emhoff;
Diana Ross black first husband Robert Silberstein; Ronnie Spector black singer married Jewish Jonathan Greenfield; Mirelle Fanon black Jewish husband Bernard Mendes;
Rula Jebreal black Muslim Jewish husband Arthur G. Altshul Jr.; Michelle Malkin, Amy Chua Asians with Jewish husbands; George Soros, Woody Allen, Mark Zuckerberg,
Les Moonves, Jeff Greene, Oliver Stone, all Jews with Asian wives. These are famous people, the tip of the iceberg. Where I live many Jews are married to blacks and Asians
and they are not famous. Interesting how there are no “shiksa” jokes about these blacks/Asians.

Your “mischlings” are outliers. And if they’re being raised Jewish, your grandnieces and nephews will very likely look like Obummer’s “sons” and Mark Zuckerberg’s daughters.

Also, I’ve been to Israel (went for Christmas). There are some really dark Israelis out there.

Weinstein is over 65 so he has a Philip Roth mentality. But his kids will be very different. If Weinstein wants to find a woman to make him happy, a black/Asian woman is the ticket. Ever since Woody Allen married his Korean he’s calmed down.

At one point I saw Kirchik on Twitter saying something to the effect that in light of Trump’s election he ‘understood what it was like to be a German Jew in 1933.’ That’s narcissistic personality disorder-level delusion.

It’s telling that Kirchik’s brand of hysterics appeals to Jeet Heer, TNR’s leftwing editor-in-chief. I also noticed on twitter that Kirchik is chummy with one of the most venomous, strident neoliberals out there, Noah Smith.

Those restrictionists’ fears were highly justified, as evidenced by American culture coming to be dominated by people who want to erase and replace the founding stocks of the US.

Agree. That’s why those of us who’ve learned from history want to restrict immigration, especially refugees.

Imagine if all the diaspora had returned to Israel instead. We’d all be left in peace today.

To the extent Italians look like Jews–which they sometimes can in the lips/nose/eye department–it’s because of Moorish admixture. Same reason Sicilians are so much darker than Milanese. (Some might also suggest that the African admixture is the source of southern Italy’s relative social dysfunction and clannishness.)

An example of a Moor:

What Lionel Trilling meant

And how often did Lionel get assaulted on his way home from work?

Or “Jamie”, for that matter.

Ashkenazi men are, like black men, outmarrying at higher rates than their women. To the extent Ashkenazi women outmarry it’s often to a black or other non-white, rather than a hated Teutonic. (Men to whites/Asians, usually, unless they’re particularly unattractive like Krugman.)

Indeed, ever since the Ashkenazi started 1000 years ago, virtually all of their European blood has come from gentile women rather than gentile men.

I hope those boobs in the League of the South have the sense to read Ann Corcoran before they start talking about refugee resettlement in Tennessee at the WHITE LIVES MATTER rally. We’re all boobs compared to the great Ann Corcoran when it comes to knowledge about the REFUGEE OVERLOAD issue.

Stephen Miller should fight to completely stop all refugee resettlement into the United States.

REFUGEE OVERLOAD increases housing costs, lowers wages, swamps schools and overwhelms hospitals.

REFUGEE OVERLOAD brings Islamic terrorism, multicultural mayhem and infectious diseases to the United States.

'White Lives Matter' rally planned Oct. 28 for Tennessee https://t.co/J1DScCfMxI pic.twitter.com/fo9mgiuwMu

— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) October 7, 2017

There is again nothing altruistic about what these churches are doing. It’s all about money. Obama appropriated tens of millions to the churches to “sponsor” muslim refugees and illegals, and Paul Ryan expanded the program as a way to funnel millions of tax dollars to his beloved Catholic church. These churches would not have been so eager to sponsor the refugees if it weren’t such a lucrative business for them. The Lutheran church’s sponsoring of Somalis is one major reason why I stopped going to church.

Putin is not the devil. It’s utterly stupid for the US to pick a fight with Putin. When it comes to the MidEast, Putin is on the right side. The entire Mideast war now is between Shiites and Sunnis, Assad and Iran(Shiite) is fighting for supremacy with Saudi Arabia(Sunni) in the Islamic world. Syria and Iran are not the bad guys. When was the last time a Shiite Muslim committed terror against the west? 99% of Islamic terror are committed by Sunnis.

Saudi Arabia is the real enemy, the real sponsor of world terror. In the 90s the Saudis poured hundreds of millions of oil money into building madrassas around the world, radicalizing Sunni muslims the world over from Asia to Africa to all over the Mideast.

Trump’s fixation on Iran defies logic and reason. He is acting solely on behalf of Israel courtesy of Jared Kushner, nothing more. Iran has no beef with the US. The hostage crisis was all about them booting a pro-US dictator who wanted to sell oil to the US on the cheap. They wanted us out of their country because we support Israel, their arch enemy, they don’t want us destroyed or dead. Their beef is with Israel, not the US. Saudi Arabia and the ISIS, Al Qaeda that they support actually do want us dead because we’re the infidels.

Jews turning on one another. Things are really getting strange.

The retort to everything: Is it good for the Jews?

It’s Albrecht Durer.

Right, but the point is neither the average Italian nor Jesus would have probably had a Ashkenazi proboscis, which is also found in other genetic lines that tend towards inbreeding.

There’s always the odd ball here and there with a deformed nose. That picture actually looks he broke his nose at one point. That’s bizarre angle, even from the front.

I suspect I see many more renderings of Christ than you do.

That’s not an iconic version. It’s very 1940’s/1950’s, but I wouldn’t call it that sort of face that people bring up when they think Jesus.

Evidence that Peter Beinart is coming around please? Seems as hysterical as ever.

From Kirchick’s, and his community’s perspective, the leading threat is that Middle America elects a Viktor Orban-style government backed up by a Jobbik-style opposition party.

that is probably what they believe and it’s probably true in the short term but i don’t think they yet realize that the Muslim refugee population will increase very rapidly via arranged marriages or that non-Muslim south Asians will probably be their most effective competitors (due to similar combination of verbal IQ and nepotism).

Looks like a junkie who was given a bath and a meal in exchange for posing! Yes, that is a kind of sentimentalized Jesus with overhead spotlights who avoids eye contact with the soul, but even so, he looks like a direct genetic descendant of the Durer-Jesus of almost 500 years earlier at the time that Jesus was naturalized.

It is pretty interesting looking at the linear depiction through history of depictions of the J man and seeing how they have tended to resemble the artist and his audience.

In this one Jesus is having a bad day:

Don’t hold your breath. (((They))) still can’t answer why immigration is good for America but bad for Israel.

Delighted to hear it Jack.

Your people’s brains and our people’s looks? Eugenics at its best.

So what?

The exception, not the rule. As I said.

Pay attention.

By Veneto:

It’s called the Roman nose. Nothing to do with Jews.

Pius XII had it too (and he was an authentic Roman, which very few popes ever were).

The traditional image seems to be based on the guy (should that be the Guy?) in the Shroud of Turin.

See https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjcy4yNg_HWAhWT14MKHUg1CI0QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncregister.com%2Fdaily-news%2Fthe-shroud-of-turin-and-technoscience&psig=AOvVaw260SZ-xsHW9mUXNEflak0H&ust=1508101785326437 .

Yes, Duerer is Duerer, but he is putting himself into another mold. It is obviously a picture of himself as Christ and not merely as himself.

fwiw, those ads seem to be for household help, possibly living in the same house as the employer. Household help requires the employee to be intimate with the employer and the employer’s family. So they need someone who will fit in with the family.

Oh but there is an authentic portrait of Jesus Christ.

It is called the Shroud of Turin, and it is a miracle, in every sense of the word.

a bad day

On the contrary, it’s Good Friday.

Aren’t Ashkenazim about 50% Italian? So they ought to have some Italian features.

In other words, their loyalty to other Jews comes after White and American. Most of the alt-Jews I’ve met had this realization after a trip to Israel or Europe.

If true that is disgraceful. I love America and am loyal to it but I will always be a Jew first and while my 2nd loyalty is to white America, it is not even a remotely close 2nd.

I also suspect that any Jew that claims that they are “American first” would quickly abandon such a position if push ever came to shove.

Here is a very pre-Duerer Christ:.

The Irish are indeed terrible cooks, or at least still were when I knew Ireland best, in the 1980s. It stands to reason that the impoverished and brutish types who landed in Boston from around 1840 onwards in such regrettably large numbers would have cooked at least as badly.

And the two black women who cooked for my family when I was three and four did so impeccably.

How about Sargent’s portrait of this Mediterranean man?

James Naylor, who was led into considerable trouble by (among other things including his Quakerism) his resemblance to the traditional image of Christ*, was as Northern European as one might seek.

*Long before 1940.

I’m acquainted with a few bible thumpers who would regard it as blasphemy to suggest that the actual Jesus deviated in any significant way from this portrait.

Well done. Great post.

The image of the Jesus-with-a-straight-nose is much older than that. It goes back to the oldest Byzantine icons.

But the point of Byzantine iconography was not faithful depiction of faces but visualization of concepts. Every facial feature had a meaning (I think straight nose meant the lack of lust.) That’s why Byzantine icons look so alike.

Your people’s brains and our people’s looks? Eugenics at its best.

“I’ve got the brains, you’ve got the looks … Let’s make lots of money”

(Pet Shop Boys -Opportunities)

According to Richard Spencer and people with similar views, they’re Jews. Or Middle Eastern. Or Semitic. Etc. That is, what they are called or labeled is not really relevant to Spencer et al. What’s relevant to Spencer et al is self-determination and the fact that Jews can be genetically distinguished from those whom they determine themselves to be.

The discussion started off about being about Stephen Miller. Then I scroll to the bottom and now we’re talking about the culinary skills of Irish immigrants. It’s interesting the number of different discussions that happen in any given ISteve topic.

As for Stephen Miller, he truly is the star player of this administration. Hopefully he’ll run for president one day. Or, at the very least, continue to run American immigration policy for the next 50 years.

An essay by one of former New Republic owner Marty Peretz’s Bright Young Men (along with Andrew Sullivan and Al Gore), James Kirchick:

Is Steve implying that Marty Peretz (who’s gay) may have given the Harvey Weinstein treatment to young Mr. Kirchick? Perhaps there were some non-consensual encounters?

Evidence that it is actually a bust of Josephus seems to be rather scanty.

Benævnelsesmæssigt har dette portræt ført en omtumlet tilværelse. Det er blevet “Corbulo” (kejser Neros general, Domitius Corbub); R. Eisler gav det benævnelsen Flavius Josephus (den romerske historieskriver 37-100 e.Kr.) p.gr.a. det jødiske fysiognomi. Overskæg og kindskæg er kun svagt angivet. Skægget har vel været angivet med bemaling. En rimelig navngivning synes ikke mulig.
Fra flavisk tid.

Google translate:

Namely, this portrait has led to an omnipresent existence. It has become “Corbulo” (Emperor Neros General, Domitius Corbub); R. Eisler gave it the term Flavius ​​Josephus (Roman historian 37-100 AD) the Jewish physiognomy. Excess and childbirth is only weakly stated. The beard has been marked with paint. A reasonable name does not seem possible.
From faint time.

On the east coast, lots of Italian guys look like this.

https://twitter.com/____Marc______/status/917458911929741312

and this……..

Look at their dressing style and their accent.

They’re about as ethnic as it gets.

This is not how many Protestants see things at all. These images are considered goofy or sentimental at best, idolatrous at worst.

Ron Paul talks a good game, but his physiognomy tells a different tale, in my opinion.

No one’s quite spelled this out for you, so I will: all sorts of people are riding on the open-borders bandwagon nowadays. It’s the ‘in’ thing, in case you really hadn’t noticed. But where did it come from? Who spearheaded the cultural shift? Who was behind Hart-Celler (hint: it wasn’t Teddy Kennedy). If you really need them, I have many more rhetorical questions along these lines. But you and I both know that you know the truth of the matter just as well as I do.

Does the author really walk around thinking other Americans are ready to band together and kill him and all other Jews?

maybe paranoia was selected for as a survival trait due to living as a minority for centuries

In “The Poison Mushroom” Streicher explains that a Jewish nose looks like a number 6 with a bottom that dips but a Roman or eagle nose there is a straight return from the tip of the nose to the lip. I would put it this way – if the man in Veneto’s portrait were to show up in my synagogue (minus the funny costume) no one would give him a 2nd glance.

Lastly, because I’m overposting this thread, the long-faced, distinguished physiognomy typically associated with Christ was not unknown among Roman-era Jews. From the Dura Europos synagogue: http://digitalcollections.library.yale.edu/0/1969077.jpe , contrasting with most of the figures there who are rounder-faced or Persianate (e.g. http://digitalcollections.library.yale.edu/0/1963537.jpe ).

“…there’s something desperately preening about Miller’s entire career…”

This from “the Jew in the box?”

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/128398/being-the-jew-in-the-box

And he goes on to accuse Miller of chutzpah?

Will everyone voting based on race and religion be good for the Jews, James?

They’ll be voting Democrat, then. [[[Who]]] funds and controls the Democratic Party?

How did the end game of the pluralistic Ottoman empire work out for the Jews?

Purty damn good. Once they overthrew the Sultan, it wasn’t long before Christian Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians etc. started disappearing in massive numbers.
It’s still happening.

You know the old Marilyn Monroe and Einstein joke – what if the offspring has my people’s looks and your people’s brains?

Not being ethnocentric enough is the definition of a “self-hating” Jew.

OT: Vox doesn’t say anything about population growth because it would be racist!

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/9/26/16356524/the-population-question

Odd. In the last week I’ve read a whole bunch of articles about Harvey Weinstein and “the white male” problem in Hollywood. But I haven’t seen any articles complaining about Harvey Weinstein passing as white.

“Is Steve implying that Marty Peretz (who’s gay) may have given the Harvey Weinstein treatment to young Mr. Kirchick?”

Good question.

Years & years ago, my boss at the NIH, Zeke Emanuel, noting that I was reasonably literate, & gay, & not yet totally decrepit, suggested that we should have lunch with Marty Peretz.

But it never came off.

Sinister figures lurk around our careless president:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sinister-figures-lurk-around-our-careless-president/2017/10/13/09c9448c-af6e-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?utm_term=.bd1b0995c5e0

I like Will’s writing; but I don’t understand why this innocent comment raises his ire:

“in sending our [tax reform] proposal to the tax-writing committees, we will include instructions to ensure all low- and middle-income households are protected.”

Some of the basic stated principles of a decent person like Jared Taylor seem sane.

But the typical WN is a complete loser who occupies the extreme left of the bell curve for every desirable human trait. The quality variance among whites is extremely high, which is why it cannot really be considered one race, and the ‘median’ white income/character/looks tells you very little about the true garbage that comprises the bottom 20% (the men are WNs, the women are fat feminists).

Jamie Kirchick has written for National Review and is member of Conservatism Inc. in good standing.

Stolen from (Anglo-Irish Protestant) Shaw but still funny.

Interesting to see the intersection of Jesus and Stephen Miller here at iSteve.

As a Jew, I see them both Miller and Jesus as hypocrites and craven opportunists.

Jesus started a cult of fanatics and pretty much mass marketed anti-semitism. His cult later became a literal deadly threat to Jews everywhere for 2000 years. (Example: See the above vile comments from Christian Identity white nationalists on this very thread .)

Stephen Miller isn’t even close, just another Court Jew willing to sell out his own for scraps from the table. In 3 years, nobody will remember the name Stephen Miller.

Apparently this ‘evidence’ of yours is photoshopped.
Just more of your endless white-bashing.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3790116?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

In our day and age when movies and TV are
not the only form of popular entertainment, it’s become
very easy to boycott 99% of the products put out
by Hollywood and New York. As the economists pointed
out, being unemployed is no longer boring, not when
people have the Internet and video games at their
disposal. Perhaps that’s one reason why so many men
today choose to be out of the labor force.

Hence sociopaths like Weinstein (and, as Emma
Thompson pointed out, he is only the tip of the iceberg)
and other dark triad characters that Hollywood seems to attract
are not the only reason to steer clear of Hollywood
products. Unfortunately, it seems like in recent years
90% of what Hollywood puts out is indoctrination and
propaganda. Who wants to spend 20 bucks to be subjected
to brainwashing? Plus no entity has contributed as much
to the coarsening of the American culture as Hollywood.
I don’t think it’s only conservatives who want to see
massive layoffs in Hollywood and New York. Maybe that’ll
teach them, although I wouldn’t bet on it

From my experience, the people with the most disgusting bulbous noses are the Mid Easterners (Arabs, Persians) and Indians/Pakis/Punjabis. I feel sorry for them that they look that way.

My theory is that thousands of years of inbreeding (caste-based and cousin marriage) has resulted in them looking ugly. Pakis are in most ways the worst of both – they have the caste intermarriage of the Indian subcontinent and the cousin marriage of the Middle East. Not surprisingly, they are an especially deformed ethnicity. The Gulf Arabs (who have been geographically isolated for a long time) are almost as ugly and deformed looking.

As for Jews, the best looking Jews are the Israelis and the Mid Eastern Jews. They’re not super smart like the Euro Ashkenazis, but they often look good. Especially the Israeli women, who are pretty and femme fatales. Israel these days has a very non-intellectual party culture that revolves around night clubs, late night eating establishments, and vanity. Israel is like the SoCal of the Middle East.

No, we do not need to regret the arrival of anyone in the past.

It may not always be productive but why not? E.g., in the end of it, bringing in all the slaves benefited the country considerably less than harmed it. What’s wrong with regretting the choice?

On net, letting huge number of Jews into the most influential country led to Jews becoming by far the most influential people in the world. If someone believes that it resulted in numerous negative outcomes, why is it wrong to regret the decision?

Check out Roman nobleman Leo XIII:. It looks better on Italians though, probably because of the lack of the inbreeding you mentioned.

Why is being a White Nationalist any “ickier” than being a Jewish Nationalist (Zionist)? Wanting an All-White Nation is considered “bad” “evil” “hateful”, etc, etc – yet having an All Jewish Nation (Israel) is considered a “right” “good” “pure”.

Every race seems to have the “right” to create race/gender-based exclusionary constructs (schools, student unions, business councils, countries) with the exception of White Males who must allow integration to all of their organizations – public and private. Not seeing the hypocrisy in that thought pattern is what is so “icky” ….

Most people hold and champion beliefs they have absolutely zero justification for. You have to stop running your “programming” and start asking yourself why you believe what you believe – and come up with your own reasons. Life won’t be easier, but it will make more sense.

I doubt anyone here would dispute that. Seems like he was just pointing out that Jews aren’t the only ones bringing in immigrants.

Irish Spaghetti:

A spaghetti with marinara sauce with Cambell’s Tomato Soup concentrate as the marinara sauce.

I believe it’s a portrait of the young Eric Clapton.

Veneto – “Portrait of a Man” circa 1525

Perhaps the man has Jewish ancestry. A descendant of converts?

I was reminded of the first couple in this video when reading people’s comments here about what Jews look like in various places and at various historic periods. The wife is from Aleppo in Syria and the husband is Iraqi.

OT – Multiculturalism might not be all its cracked up to be.

An Islamic group’s plan to build a mosque in a major center of London’s Jewish community has sparked outrage among Jewish residents — and outrage over the outrage — the Jewish Chronicle reported. The backlash began after a former concert venue in the Golders Green neighborhood was bought by the Center for Islamic Enlightening.

…

But a vocal minority are concerned that the mosque will lead to Jewish-Islamic tension.

So apparently multiculturalism can lead to tension. Who’d have known?

Nor does it apply to other parts of the world; continued mass Muslim immigration from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe, for example, is a portentous development that will make Jewish life there, already difficult, increasingly so.

This asshole must have intended to provoke gentile readers. Notice that Kirchick conspicuously leaves out any mention of the native inhabitants of Europe. All that should matter is whether or not immigration to a particular country is good for the Jews.

I’m just going to call a spade a spade here; Jamie Kirchick is a supremacist anti-gentile racist, and a loathsome one at that. As the left takes more ground, a lot of people like him are beginning to feel safe enough to let us know exactly how they really feel. Think of the “Goy, Bye” affair at Huffington Post. Expect a lot more flight from white.

How did a total shi* like Kirchick become a reporter?

A better time.

Said to be Einstein’s response to a suggestion by Monroe at the time they met.
However, according to Antony Summers’ Goddess, Monroe was pretty bright, and while she got conned a few times, she learnt from her mistakes.
She also hated lesbians.
As far as Einstein is concerned, has anyone ever proved any of his Theories?

Similar kind of vibe but back then they had black death and catholicism instead of lsd.

If I had to bet, I’d bet those ads are BS. Of course I don’t have to bet.

More on noses: https://books.google.com/books?id=mKTQAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA444&lpg=PA444#v=onepage&q&f=false .

Perhaps the final word? Unlikely, however!

D.L. Hughley had a routine about ghetto spaghetti that had a similar recipe. Not sure if ketchup was involved.

The Merchant of Venice, perhaps?

Would you want Typhoid Mary cooking for your family?

One of the best things about Trump is that he trolled the Neocons into saying exactly what they think of Americans: They hate them, as people. For what they are.

Neoconservatism is the past. Jewish White Nationalism is the future.

38 Major Kong > until there are self-identified Jewish organizations that explicity recognize our rights to an ethnoreligious supermajority

They don’t inspect circumcisions. So join some and start voting.

Your ancestors didn’t ask King George for permission to make their own country. So why are you so dependent upon what Jewish Organizations say? You should be so busy building your future that you don’t have time to look at Jews.

I will build the Pioneering Little Europe villages right here in Israel, because apparently I can run circles around you in organizing your people.

125 Jack D > If you want to see the Jewish taste in women, look at all the starlets that Weinstein hit on

Weinstein never really studied Pick Up Artistry. He grabbed pussys-of-oppotrunity. Maybe he secretly prefers Mongolian girls. We will never know.

Multiculturalism is the Jewish version of lebensraum.

I adore Stephen Miller and thank God every night, that he is able to deal with what he has to deal with, every fracking day. Also: I knew a lot of Stephens like him – so, he is not alone. Being a Patriot, according to my grandfather, had nothing to do with religion.

From the first photo it’s looking like “a Protestant” was the politer way of saying “no Irish.”

Looks like your common or garden political activist. Quite thought provoking…

Bret Stephens’ “mark this conservative columnist as strongly pro-deportation” from this past June?

https://www.unz.com/isteve/bret-stephens-in-nyt-wants-to-deport-americans-to-make-more-room-for-immigrants/

This op-Ed is an important exemplar of a curious phenomenon: America is the only country in the world where Jews insist that they aren’t “white.” They find it safer to see themselves as another oppressed “person-of-color”, and for good reason. I guess that little ruse will work, for now, until the Left finds Jews less politically useful and discards them as “Uber-white”, the way the European Left has.