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Merkel and East European Leaders Discuss Migrant Crisis in Brussels
By ANDREW HIGGINS OCT. 25, 2015BRUSSELS — Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany met here on Sunday with leaders of East European countries along the main migrant trail to affluent parts of Europe in a new push to bring some order to a chaotic flow of tens of thousands of people seeking shelter from war or simply better lives.
The gathering, called at Ms. Merkel’s behest by the European Union’s top executive, Jean-Claude Juncker, was the fifth consecutive meeting of leaders focused on so far fruitless efforts to deal with Europe’s biggest refugee crisis since the end of World War II.
Voicing despair at Europe’s failure to forge a common policy, Miro Cerar, the prime minister of Slovenia, which has been swamped by 60,000 people from Syria and elsewhere over the past 10 days, said that continued failure to act in concert would signal “the beginning of the end of the European Union and Europe as such.” Europe, he said, “will begin falling apart.”
The European Commission, the union’s executive arm, has proposed a raft of plans and programs since the early summer to deal with the migrant crisis but a wide chasm has opened up between talk in Brussels and real action on the ground. …
Warning that the flow of refugees will only increase as a result of intensified fighting in Syria, Johannes Hahn, the European Union’s senior official for regional policy, pleaded Sunday for a “coordinated and coherent answer” and said that attempts by individual nations to stop the flow would only turn other countries into “parking lots” for stranded migrants. “Don’t look for individual solutions. This is not a way out,” he said.
Mr. Hahn’s comments signaled growing alarm in Brussels over efforts by some countries in Eastern European, notably Hungary, to keep asylum seekers out. A fence built by Hungary along its southern border to prevent migrants and refugees flowing through its territory has pushed the flow toward Croatia and Slovenia.
Viktor Orban, Hungary’s pugnacious prime minister, sounded a characteristically defiant tone upon his arrival Sunday in Brussels, saying that he was attending as only an “observer” as Hungary is no longer part of the migrant trail. Mr. Orban repeated his longstanding position that the only realistic way to solve the crisis is for the European Union to take over control of Greece’s eastern border with Turkey, the main corridor for migrants and refugees seeking entry to Europe.
“We should go down south to protect the borders of Greece,” Mr. Orban said, complaining that he had proposed this many times “but no one accepted.”
The repetitious failure of these European meetings don’t make any sense as long as you subscribe to the conventional wisdom’s categories in which Ms. Merkel is the upholder of European peace and cooperation and Mr. Orban is the evil nationalist trying to destroy Europe. If you undergo a gestalt shift, however, in which you suddenly realize that Ms. Merkel is attempting to destroy the networks of international treaties under which the E.U. was built up to reduce Europe to a New Order under the suzerainty of the Berlin-Brussels axis, while Mr. Orban is standing up for Europe by advocating the necessity of E.U. perimeter defense, then things becomes a lot clearer.
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Thus does Germany conquer Europe after all.
Is Merkel related to Hitler?
What's so hard to understand about that ? {sarcasm = off}
Why is it that countries that the migrants least want to go to (Eastern European ones) have the biggest physical barriers to entry and are the most adamant against taking them in…
… while the countries that the migrants most want to go to have the least?
You’d think it would be the other way around.
Europe needs a Marcher Lord takeover, stat
Is Merkel related to Hitler?Replies: @SFG, @jay-w
Much as I enjoy Nazi jokes, they’re completely inappropriate these days. Merkel is actually trying to be the anti-Hitler, and in so doing may well do as much damage to her nation as her nemesis of 75 years ago. Extremes meet.
Hmmm. If, as a result of Merkel, Germany becomes part of a Eurabian caliphate, I'd say she'd actually have done more damage to Germany than Hitler (which would be quite a feat).Replies: @SFG
Merkel “may well do as much damage to her nation as her nemesis of 75 years ago”?
Hmmm. If, as a result of Merkel, Germany becomes part of a Eurabian caliphate, I’d say she’d actually have done more damage to Germany than Hitler (which would be quite a feat).
What she has given her country is a permanent, large, and soon restive underclass, which will be a constant source of social problems. Kind of like we have.Replies: @Maj. Kong
All things being equal, Merkel is a woman, who has never not looked withered to me. She must be feeling terribly sheepish at the moment, and no mentionable historical analogies alight to mind, maybe because analogously situated matriarchs tend to rather be ruthless more than diplomatic, that is after she disgraced herself she became diplomatic. So it’s hard to guess what is the end game her native psyche must be evincing. But to hazard one, I think she is fazed and going through the motions of a failed figurehead and getting up in the morning only to grasp, to stay trained on the ever feint morendo. Because the sound is so pretty next to the stark actualities, facts on the ground “as omnipresent as sound and as particular as something seen.”
Paul Johnson said that at the end of the day, Mussolini wanted to be loved. They hung him from the heels. “The enormous tragedy of the dream on the peasant’s bent shoulders.” There was a moment when Merkel I think saw something like that dream, and well she made her cage, as the poet might say.
Meanwhile another guy who sort of makes me think of Mussolini just heard his first dog whistle, when Steppafoudndeloplis asked him if he was a bigot who owns a dog whistle. I actually know a guy from Belfast who dreamed up a dog-whistle-gyroscope widget. And come to think of it, on his word I’ve been going around telling people that the IRA never did not broadcast the bomb they were dropping off at the bar to the patrons imbibing within. That’s because I trust him. Trump is doing exactly what he should be doing—invoking right down the middle.
Still not to late to resettle Syrians in Syria. Long term it should be cheaper to.
Why worry about Europe when we can provide gainful employment for pedophiles:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11951889/Paedophiles-working-as-teachers-a-social-good-psychologist.html
Is Merkel related to Hitler?Replies: @SFG, @jay-w
If I understand the situation correctly, Merkel wants to atone for the evils of Nazi-ism by filling up Europe with rabid Jew-haters.
What’s so hard to understand about that ? {sarcasm = off}
This is unclear. Do you mean that reducing Europe is Frau Merkel’s aim, or the EU treaties’ aim?
“This is unclear. Do you mean that reducing Europe is Frau Merkel’s aim, or the EU treaties’ aim?”
It means that will be the result of Merkel’s temper tantrum, despite not being her intention. Merkel appears to have acted unilaterally and without the authority of either German or EU law, yet leftists hail her as a hero, while inferring that Viktor Orban, who is completely within the law (not to mention the overwhelming will of the voters) is some sort of modern-day Hitler. Leftists and corporate fascists don’t care about the rule of law. They don’t care about the will of the people. They care about getting their way.
Steve, I think the phrase you were reaching for there is: “If you undergo a gestalt shift” or “change” or “revolution,” etc.
Merkel just went nuts. There IS no other explanation. She’s just stone fn crazy.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6668/germany-migrant-crime-wave
RTWT
If taking in these “refugees” is such a huge potential economic boon, they why shouldn’t they be resettled in more culturally similar but less-developed-than-Europe places like the Gulf States? Or why not Africa–surely the wonderful human capital they represent can be deployed to do much more good in Africa?
Doesn’t the fact that no one is even mentioning these possibilities give the lie to the justification for this Camp of the Saints movement? And since when do refugees get to decide where to seek asylum?
Much of the East African entrepreneurial class is already Indian and, in West Africa, Lebanese. The problem though is that Africans cannot be cowed by open borders progressives in their own countries.
Merkel's boner will do more damage than a nuclear bomb dropped on Berlin.
That is the same thought that has occurred to me whenever I hear apologists for mass immigration from Mexico (often made by leading Mexican politicians like the President of Mexico) argue that these Mexican immigrants deliver so much economic benefit to the U.S. If that's the case, why shouldn't this valuable Mexican commodity be kept in Mexico so it can return the same economic benefit to Mexico?Replies: @Rob McX
>>Slovenia, which has been swamped by 60,000 people from Syria and elsewhere over the past 10 days
60,000 is 3% of Slovenia’s population. Give it a month and the migrants/invaders will comprise about 10% of the Slovenian population. At that point they can just take over the country, what with most of them being young, male and violently disposed.
Upon further consideration I think I was wrong about Merkel. And unfair. She’s not IMHO acting on tingles as much as the very wrong lessons she learned from the downfall (that word again) of Erich Honecker in East Germany. After Hungary opened the borders to Germans fleeing though to Austria (dept. of irony), Honecker’s regime collapsed within weeks as most of the Security people fled first. While the getting was good.
Thus, Merkel PANICS. She panicked when Fukushima happened and ended nuclear power in Germany, to disastrous results for industry. She panicked when negative images of drowned Syrian toddlers appeared in the press and drew the wrong conclusions. And now knows she’s wrong but can’t take it back.
It was just a very limited, very stupid, very PC (i.e. a woman) leader making a panic move.
No doubt she’s done the math — only a matter of time before ALL the German Welfare state is eaten up by Muslims. Perhaps a year, perhaps less. Or rather others have done that for her and told her when her expiration date is up.
“Europe” is toast. No amount of money funneled from Germany (and note — those Muslims cost a LOT so there is very little German money any more) to Eastern Europe will have Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes, etc. decide to take the hot potato. Any more than Vermont and Bernie Sanders are eager to have half of Baltimore move to the local township.
There are no doubt military leaders who would be happy to be Supreme Rulers, at one point they will realize that Germans will applaud sending ALL the Muslims to say, Turkey to save the Welfare State, and just overthrow Merkel. Sweden, France, and Italy probably also face the same issue — military coups to preserve the very society, even if the military is small and isolated.
Clearly, PC can ruin your society. For a long time, Europe coasted on PC and was able to skate by the gap between reality: more than a few isolated Muslims means ruin for their society; and PC idiocy. That gap is no longer sustainable. Either Caliphate and ruin (save for attractive White women who can trade up to a big man in the ruins rather than an ordinary man in a wealth society — White women don’t Eat-Pray-Cuck at Switzerland or Stuttgart). Or blood and violence to save what is theirs.
Consider Orban’s desire to have the EU secure the Greek border. It takes more than a fence. It takes a big military willing in the extreme to kill people rushing the border. No matter how bad the pictures. That’s not going to happen so expect piecemeal resistance until some Napoleon or Caesar emerges to fight Muslims everywhere in Europe and beyond.
How did Merkel switch from being known for saying “multiculturalism has utterly failed” or earlier this year she said (translated):
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/07/16/merkel_tells_sobbing_teenager_why_her_family_can_t_stay_in_germany.html
How did she switch to an open borders type?!?
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Steve, this Slovenia place is really interesting. Perhaps you could blog about it like you did Golan Heights.
Funny how Golan Heights was mentioned a zillion times on the news in the bad old three-network days but they never showed any photos of the place!
Well, another mystery on the map — at least for Americans — is effing Slovenia. But it’s right next to Italy. Which is one of America’s favorite tourist destinations: Slovenia is next door to Venice for chrissakes.
You know damn well DJ Trump said “Where?” when his new wife told him where she was from. Because nobody knows nuthin’ about Slovenia.
I bet zero percent of Harvard freshmen could name a city in Slovenia. I bet only one or two employees at the NYT could offer up any accurate statistics on Slovenia.
Slovenia is also never mentioned in books or movies.
I find it all very curious.
Those cities would be You-be-Anna and Mary-bore.
Enoch Powell got the measure of the EU over 40 years ago.
He spent his political life trying to warn the British public about the true nature of the EU, sacrificing his career in the process, but in the end it was a forlorn battle – the British public did not listen.
Enoch was right about the EU – just as he was right about immigration.
... while the countries that the migrants most want to go to have the least?
You'd think it would be the other way around.Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Stick
Mainly because the eastern European states can see what happened to western Europe, regarding massive third world immigration – and don’t want it to happen to them.
European Leaders Discuss Migrant Crisis. Break the water pipes in your house, then sit around in the living room to discuss the flooding problem.
Western European states can also see what immigration did to Western Europe. The difference between Western and Eastern Europe is that the latter wasn’t exposed for as long to anti-white propaganda from the media and entertainment industry. Also Eastern Europe is poorer and can’t afford the luxury of pretending that millions of unemployable Third Worlders are going to be of any benefit to it.
Doesn't the fact that no one is even mentioning these possibilities give the lie to the justification for this Camp of the Saints movement? And since when do refugees get to decide where to seek asylum?Replies: @Bill B., @tbraton
Actually skill sets, IQ and entrepreneurial zeal that are unsuited to Europe might actually work well in Africa. Win-win.
Much of the East African entrepreneurial class is already Indian and, in West Africa, Lebanese. The problem though is that Africans cannot be cowed by open borders progressives in their own countries.
Merkel’s boner will do more damage than a nuclear bomb dropped on Berlin.
Again it is a largely unremarked scandal that there is no political opposition in Germany — with Merkel als Kanzlerin, there was a so-called Große Koalition 2005-2009, and now since 2013 — meaning the two main parties, the CDU and the SPD, govern together — eg they split the important ministries between them. Look at it this way: the CDU is the ‘Stupid Party’, or the RINO party, whereas the SPD is the ‘Evil Party’ — so ‘bipartisanship’, ie at the same time both stupid and evil governance, has been the case for the majority of the last 10 years.
It is rare to meet a German who finds this disturbing.
Not only that, the mainstream parties — here this includes die Grüne and die Linke, both of whom are represented in the Bundestag — campaign together to demonize and marginalize any opposition to the current madness, regardless of how legitimate.
Now their target is the AfD — Alternative für Deutschland — Berliner Parteien rufen zu Protest gegen AfD-Demo auf — the established parties call for people to join them in a counter-demonstration at the same time as a planned AfD event.
Even odd fringe parties join in the idiocy — Piratenpartei: AfD-Anhänger sind Nazis und Rassisten — the comical Pirate Party calls AfD members (Anhänger) Nazis and racists.
With the cooperation of the media, any right-of-center opposition is immediately driven into the ‘neo-Nazi’ corner. Very few Germans are going to have the courage to risk that — to risk being associated with the AfD — to risk being labelled a racist or a Nazi.
The fact is, Germany is just not a very politically mature nation — it has an impoverished political culture.
... while the countries that the migrants most want to go to have the least?
You'd think it would be the other way around.Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Stick
The Western countries are decadent and self-destructive. Generations of peace and high living standards have bred people incapable of standing up for themselves and their lands. We truly are witnessing civilzational suicide.
Doesn't the fact that no one is even mentioning these possibilities give the lie to the justification for this Camp of the Saints movement? And since when do refugees get to decide where to seek asylum?Replies: @Bill B., @tbraton
“If taking in these “refugees” is such a huge potential economic boon, they why shouldn’t they be resettled in more culturally similar but less-developed-than-Europe places like the Gulf States? Or why not Africa–surely the wonderful human capital they represent can be deployed to do much more good in Africa?”
That is the same thought that has occurred to me whenever I hear apologists for mass immigration from Mexico (often made by leading Mexican politicians like the President of Mexico) argue that these Mexican immigrants deliver so much economic benefit to the U.S. If that’s the case, why shouldn’t this valuable Mexican commodity be kept in Mexico so it can return the same economic benefit to Mexico?
Funny how Golan Heights was mentioned a zillion times on the news in the bad old three-network days but they never showed any photos of the place!
Well, another mystery on the map -- at least for Americans -- is effing Slovenia. But it's right next to Italy. Which is one of America's favorite tourist destinations: Slovenia is next door to Venice for chrissakes.
You know damn well DJ Trump said "Where?" when his new wife told him where she was from. Because nobody knows nuthin' about Slovenia.
I bet zero percent of Harvard freshmen could name a city in Slovenia. I bet only one or two employees at the NYT could offer up any accurate statistics on Slovenia.
Slovenia is also never mentioned in books or movies.
I find it all very curious.Replies: @Niccolo Salo, @AndrewR, @Inquiring Mind, @Perspective
Slovenia is a lovely little Alpine country full of somewhat dull Slavs who are more Austrian in temperament than South Slavic. Their two most famous exports are the celebrity Marxist Slavoj Zizek and the hilarious band Laibach, who trolled the old Communist establishment by ironically adopting Nazi aesthetics (Laibach is the German name for the Slovene capital Ljubljana). Rammstein directly draw their influence from this band.
The EU was not supposed to be dominated by Germany (in fact its essential purpose was to contain Germany), but Merkel wants to be in charge of all Europe.
Funny how Golan Heights was mentioned a zillion times on the news in the bad old three-network days but they never showed any photos of the place!
Well, another mystery on the map -- at least for Americans -- is effing Slovenia. But it's right next to Italy. Which is one of America's favorite tourist destinations: Slovenia is next door to Venice for chrissakes.
You know damn well DJ Trump said "Where?" when his new wife told him where she was from. Because nobody knows nuthin' about Slovenia.
I bet zero percent of Harvard freshmen could name a city in Slovenia. I bet only one or two employees at the NYT could offer up any accurate statistics on Slovenia.
Slovenia is also never mentioned in books or movies.
I find it all very curious.Replies: @Niccolo Salo, @AndrewR, @Inquiring Mind, @Perspective
Paulo Coelho wrote a book set in Ljubljana. That’s where I get my knowledge of Slovenia from.
Hell they even got Sarah Michelle Gellar to be in the film adaptation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronika_Decides_to_Die
That is the same thought that has occurred to me whenever I hear apologists for mass immigration from Mexico (often made by leading Mexican politicians like the President of Mexico) argue that these Mexican immigrants deliver so much economic benefit to the U.S. If that's the case, why shouldn't this valuable Mexican commodity be kept in Mexico so it can return the same economic benefit to Mexico?Replies: @Rob McX
Some kind of magic takes place once you step across the border, and foreigners can realize their potential in the US in a way that can’t happen in their own countries, apparently. Open-borders types say this is because America is a proposition nation, meaning it’s blessed with a unique civic infrastructure bestowed by the Founding Fathers. If that were the case, Somalia could simply download a copy of the US Constitution and instantly transform itself into a darker and hotter version of America. But if it did, Minnesota would lose out on diversity.
It is rare to meet a German who finds this disturbing.
Not only that, the mainstream parties -- here this includes die Grüne and die Linke, both of whom are represented in the Bundestag -- campaign together to demonize and marginalize any opposition to the current madness, regardless of how legitimate.
Now their target is the AfD -- Alternative für Deutschland -- Berliner Parteien rufen zu Protest gegen AfD-Demo auf -- the established parties call for people to join them in a counter-demonstration at the same time as a planned AfD event.
Even odd fringe parties join in the idiocy -- Piratenpartei: AfD-Anhänger sind Nazis und Rassisten -- the comical Pirate Party calls AfD members (Anhänger) Nazis and racists.
With the cooperation of the media, any right-of-center opposition is immediately driven into the 'neo-Nazi' corner. Very few Germans are going to have the courage to risk that -- to risk being associated with the AfD -- to risk being labelled a racist or a Nazi.
The fact is, Germany is just not a very politically mature nation -- it has an impoverished political culture.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @The most deplorable one
It makes sense that the same people that allowed Germany to be destroyed by a genocidal, imperialist leader a few generations would allow Germany to be destroyed by a suigenocidal, reverse imperialist leader.
Hmmm. If, as a result of Merkel, Germany becomes part of a Eurabian caliphate, I'd say she'd actually have done more damage to Germany than Hitler (which would be quite a feat).Replies: @SFG
It’s not going to become a Eurabian caliphate. You’d need a Muslim majority for that.
What she has given her country is a permanent, large, and soon restive underclass, which will be a constant source of social problems. Kind of like we have.
There is also the coercive aspect of Sharia, if the jizya can be imposed, then there will be an incentive for ethnic Europeans to convert. Where Sharia courts become the de-facto law, as they are in England, the aforesaid will occur.
Western European nations aren't likely to administer birth control drugs in exchange for welfare benefits.
60,000 is 3% of Slovenia's population. Give it a month and the migrants/invaders will comprise about 10% of the Slovenian population. At that point they can just take over the country, what with most of them being young, male and violently disposed.Replies: @Rob McX
They’re not out to take over any country in the military sense. If they did, the EU would step in and stop them. This has been planned – both by the invaders and the traitors facilitating them – as an unarmed invasion. The invaders don’t want to have to conquer any place and install their own government – after all, they haven’t had much success at self-government in their own countries. What they want is a stable country with a ready-made welfare system waiting for them.
European Union meetings give the rents seekers and grifters an opportunity to vacation in five star hotels, ride in fashionable limousines, and enjoy huge quantities of blow and hookers. Why get anything done when they can call for more meetings.
Hmm, ISIS and the other jihadi groups also emerge from Turkey. Being a large country with a large military and police forces one might think that Turkey could stop the flow of invaders and terrorists transiting through it’s territory yet it doesn’t-or probably more accurately won’t. It seems to be playing some game of blackmail and extortion whilst spreading ruination to those unfortunate enough to be it’s neighbors.
It is rare to meet a German who finds this disturbing.
Not only that, the mainstream parties -- here this includes die Grüne and die Linke, both of whom are represented in the Bundestag -- campaign together to demonize and marginalize any opposition to the current madness, regardless of how legitimate.
Now their target is the AfD -- Alternative für Deutschland -- Berliner Parteien rufen zu Protest gegen AfD-Demo auf -- the established parties call for people to join them in a counter-demonstration at the same time as a planned AfD event.
Even odd fringe parties join in the idiocy -- Piratenpartei: AfD-Anhänger sind Nazis und Rassisten -- the comical Pirate Party calls AfD members (Anhänger) Nazis and racists.
With the cooperation of the media, any right-of-center opposition is immediately driven into the 'neo-Nazi' corner. Very few Germans are going to have the courage to risk that -- to risk being associated with the AfD -- to risk being labelled a racist or a Nazi.
The fact is, Germany is just not a very politically mature nation -- it has an impoverished political culture.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @The most deplorable one
It has a degenerated political culture. Like almost all other Western countries.
Vox Day thinks time is running out and he’s not just reading tea leaves.
It is rare to meet a German who finds this disturbing.
Not only that, the mainstream parties -- here this includes die Grüne and die Linke, both of whom are represented in the Bundestag -- campaign together to demonize and marginalize any opposition to the current madness, regardless of how legitimate.
Now their target is the AfD -- Alternative für Deutschland -- Berliner Parteien rufen zu Protest gegen AfD-Demo auf -- the established parties call for people to join them in a counter-demonstration at the same time as a planned AfD event.
Even odd fringe parties join in the idiocy -- Piratenpartei: AfD-Anhänger sind Nazis und Rassisten -- the comical Pirate Party calls AfD members (Anhänger) Nazis and racists.
With the cooperation of the media, any right-of-center opposition is immediately driven into the 'neo-Nazi' corner. Very few Germans are going to have the courage to risk that -- to risk being associated with the AfD -- to risk being labelled a racist or a Nazi.
The fact is, Germany is just not a very politically mature nation -- it has an impoverished political culture.Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @The most deplorable one
When the pendulum swings the other way it is going to smash lots of things.
Funny how Golan Heights was mentioned a zillion times on the news in the bad old three-network days but they never showed any photos of the place!
Well, another mystery on the map -- at least for Americans -- is effing Slovenia. But it's right next to Italy. Which is one of America's favorite tourist destinations: Slovenia is next door to Venice for chrissakes.
You know damn well DJ Trump said "Where?" when his new wife told him where she was from. Because nobody knows nuthin' about Slovenia.
I bet zero percent of Harvard freshmen could name a city in Slovenia. I bet only one or two employees at the NYT could offer up any accurate statistics on Slovenia.
Slovenia is also never mentioned in books or movies.
I find it all very curious.Replies: @Niccolo Salo, @AndrewR, @Inquiring Mind, @Perspective
I dare say that Mr. Trump very much knows how to say the names of two major cities in Slovenia, especially, in the fashion of the reality TV The Bachelor, when making a marriage proposal decision among the women he had been dating.
Those cities would be You-be-Anna and Mary-bore.
Well, yeah, in a way. So, you’re just some idiotic conspiracy theorist. Puts you in the same league as PC Roberts, I suppose. Roberts is a bit funnier, though.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6668/germany-migrant-crime-waveRTWTReplies: @Anonymous
Maybe Merkel is a secret Nazi who is trying to force even liberal moderate Germans to support a return to fascism?
95% or maybe 98% of the way germans do things is exactly the way you would want it done, efficient, honest, thought-through etc. But then at the top end and with their rulers especially, they have a tendency to go batshit crazy on a regular basis. Remember that german re-unification was another off-the-cuff sudden gesture that surprised everybody else. During the financial crisis, those of us in other european nations discovered that suddenly the rules didn’t matter and what did matter was what the germans wanted, or even felt, at any given moment.
Maybe to be Jungian about it, if 98% of what you do is wound tight, squared away and totally predictable, that bit of crazy that is in everybody tends to build up and then periodically blow right out the top. Maybe this applies to nations as much as to individuals.
... while the countries that the migrants most want to go to have the least?
You'd think it would be the other way around.Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Stick
It’s always best to fight a war in someone else’s backyard instead of your own.
What she has given her country is a permanent, large, and soon restive underclass, which will be a constant source of social problems. Kind of like we have.Replies: @Maj. Kong
Current rates of immigration, and a possible Camp of the Saints after a Sub-Saharan famine, could indeed lead to a Muslim majority in 25-50 years.
There is also the coercive aspect of Sharia, if the jizya can be imposed, then there will be an incentive for ethnic Europeans to convert. Where Sharia courts become the de-facto law, as they are in England, the aforesaid will occur.
Western European nations aren’t likely to administer birth control drugs in exchange for welfare benefits.
Ok, so earlier this week Candidate Carson suggested that the Jews should have known better and kept their guns. I think the weakness in that argument is that nobody could have conceived of the idea that millions of people would be put on trains to be resettled only to be ruthlessly murdered.
Now there’s the EU, an entire set of nations, being made to sit still for an invasion that will destroy them. Maybe nobody can conceive of being told that an economic and cultural miracle is taking place, while in fact they are being taken over by an alien and hostile people that numbers in the hundreds of millions.
Funny how Golan Heights was mentioned a zillion times on the news in the bad old three-network days but they never showed any photos of the place!
Well, another mystery on the map -- at least for Americans -- is effing Slovenia. But it's right next to Italy. Which is one of America's favorite tourist destinations: Slovenia is next door to Venice for chrissakes.
You know damn well DJ Trump said "Where?" when his new wife told him where she was from. Because nobody knows nuthin' about Slovenia.
I bet zero percent of Harvard freshmen could name a city in Slovenia. I bet only one or two employees at the NYT could offer up any accurate statistics on Slovenia.
Slovenia is also never mentioned in books or movies.
I find it all very curious.Replies: @Niccolo Salo, @AndrewR, @Inquiring Mind, @Perspective
Well before the crisis, I wanted to visit Slovenia’s capital Ljubljana as part of my places to see bucket list. Very beautiful place. I remember thinking that Slovenia is right in the orcs path to Western Europe when Hungary (sensibly) closed its borders. Hopefully Slovenia will build a border fence, but this will only shift the problem elsewhere.
Look who’s in charge of the defence of Northern Europe.
Now there's the EU, an entire set of nations, being made to sit still for an invasion that will destroy them. Maybe nobody can conceive of being told that an economic and cultural miracle is taking place, while in fact they are being taken over by an alien and hostile people that numbers in the hundreds of millions.Replies: @fishoil
That’s true. Nobody expected this from the Germans. There had been no massacres of Jews in Germany since the Middle Ages. That sort of thing happened in wild places like Russia and Poland, not Germany. The Jews on those trains had no idea what was about to happen to them.