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From the Daily Mail:
That sounds like fun, but let me dial back expectations. The Second Couple aren’t caught up in scandal, they’re just members of Hillcrest Country Club in Los Angeles, which is being sued by a billionaire’s son whose application for membership was blackballed because his whole family are felt by the board to be jerks who sues a lot.
Ultra-elite Hillcrest Country Club in Los Angeles is at the center of a furious race storm in a new lawsuit filed this week against the club and its leaders
The club – known for having mostly Jewish members – has been branded ‘racist’ by Matthew Winnick, 42, who claims the club retaliated against him and his wife
VP Kamala Harris’ husband Doug Emhoff, who is Jewish, is a member there and has said it’s one of the couples favorite places in the city
By DAVID THOMPSON IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 08:02 EDT, 14 March 2024
The reputation of one of California’s most illustrious country clubs is now at the center of a furious race storm.
Ultra-elite Hillcrest Country Club in Los Angeles – where Kamala Harris’ husband, Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff, is a member – has been branded a ‘racist aristocracy’ with ‘depraved standards’ in a blockbuster lawsuit filed in LA against the club and its leaders.
According to the no holds barred filing on Monday afternoon, ‘Perhaps no institution embodies the racial disparities and resistance to change more starkly than the infamous Hillcrest Country Club.
‘While every-day Angelenos have advocated for progress and equality, Hillcrest has itself maintained its core principle of exclusion, under the pretext of exclusivity.’
Hillcrest was founded in 1920, supposedly due to Jews not being admitted by Los Angeles Country Club, but also, I suspect, because a lot of Jews felt, not unreasonably, that it would be more fun for them to have an all-Jewish country club. Hillcrest was a huge hit with movie business Jews, such as member Groucho Marx, and is said to have had the highest dues of any country club in America during the Roaring 20s.
The club – known for having mostly white Jewish members, including Emhoff – has also been accused of nepotism and disregarding reports of sexual assault and drug abuse.
Ultra-elite Hillcrest Country Club in Los Angeles is at the center of a furious race storm in a new lawsuit filed this week against the club and its leaders
The suit was filed by attorney Alexander Winnick on behalf of his brother Matthew Winnick, 42, who, is ‘party to a biracial marriage, where Plaintiff’s wife and children have Hispanic heritage.’
How far back do Mrs. Winnick’s Hispanic roots go? May 1945 when great-grandpa Hans arrived in Argentina?
According to the suit, the club opened in 1920 originally as a country club ‘for the Jewish community’ and claims that for 67 years it ‘refused admission to women and severely limited admission to non-Jewish members.’
The first gentile member was Lebanese-American star and philanthropist Danny Thomas. Member Jack Benny suggested that if Hillcrest really wants to shed its discriminatory reputation they should let in a gentile who is less Levantine-looking.
Hollywood legends who have been members of Hillcrest, include Milton Berle, Jack Benny, Danny Kaye, the Marx Brothers, George Burns and Al Jolson. …
The lawsuit begins with a quote from Vice President Harris, ‘In times like this, silence is complicity.’
… ‘Symbolizing a 150-acre plantation in the heart of Los Angeles, Hillcrest’s 585 members are shielded from the true racial makeup of the City through its racist policies enforced by its bigoted and selfish leadership,’ the suit states.
‘The prejudicial impact of Hillcrest’s makeup on the business, professional and employment opportunities of minorities cannot be ignored or minimized.
‘Hillcrest claims to be founded on the principles of diversity and generosity. It boasts to the world that it upholds the highest principles of inclusivity, that the Club is intent on giving back to its community.
‘In reality, Hillcrest is overwhelmingly white, pays an embarrassingly low property tax (approximately $250,000 annually),
I had lunch with a real estate developer who built what is now Trump Los Angeles Golf Club on the ocean cliffs in Palos Verde. (He had to sell out to Trump because the 18th hole slid into the Pacific and his project went bankrupt fixing it.) He told me his father founded Brentwood, a post-war Jewish country club, and had combined with Bob Hope in c. 1962 to get a referendum passed to set property taxes for golf courses at the level of agricultural land in return for not building on the land so as to keep traffic down. So western Lost Angeles has a lot of private golf clubs (such as Riviera, Bel-Air, and Wilshire) that would be taxed heavily if they were plowed under for housing.
and has no desire or incentive to change. Hillcrest is a racist aristocracy, subsidized by the City to the tune of nearly seventy (70) million dollars per year.’
The suit claims the club has maintained a ‘plantation-like essence’ by employing a mostly Hispanic staff who cater to predominantly white members.
The lawsuit then airs some dirty laundry about club officials, who gave as good as they got in return:
… Hillcrest board members’ fiery response
In a statement to Dailymail.com, Bryan Freedman spoke on behalf of Brad Fuller, Jason Kaplan and Michael Flesch, in response to the lawsuit:
‘Let me get this right, the late Gary Winnick, a long term member, showed up at the ‘racist’ club regularly until the time of his passing. When Gary recently passed away, his family (which includes the Plaintiff Matthew Winnick and his brother, Alex Winnick, the lawyer in this case) asks to host the memorial at Hillcrest, the same place they are claiming is the ‘discriminatory’ club that promotes nepotism, disregards drug use and sexual assault.
‘Sounds to me like whether or not Matthew and Alex are beneficiaries of Mr. Winnick’s well known and unethical shady business practices, what really seems to upset them is that they could not get into Hillcrest despite the alleged nepotism policy. While Gary Winnick is gone, he has passed down his penchant for filing frivolous lawsuits to Matthew and Alex. Make no mistake Brad Fuller, Jason Kaplan and Michael Flesch will file a lawsuit for malicious prosecution.
‘What a ridiculous case!’
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Yes, this is a real Emmy mailer the producers of Family Guy sent out.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/family-guy-emmy-joke-seth-macfarlane-330496
That was in 2012. Subsequent ones weren’t as funny.
Why would Steve feel compelled to endorse this ethnocentric jewish attitude?
So a extremely wealthy Jewish family sues a historically Jewish country club and claims that White people at the club maintain a Plantation type atmosphere?
Always liked Jack Benny and I am all in favor of clubs catering to ethnic preferences but these days it needs to be asked are they White members or Jewish?
Yeah, that headline is completely dishonest. Thing is, were Kamala caught up in a scandal, she’d react with exactly the same deer in the headlights look as if she were not.
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OT — AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHA
Anon said: Canada is just a punchline now.
This has been part of a continuing series about how Canada is declining.
https://archive.today/ZGQdi
You could read this as people in the country being more honest, or people in the country more likely to be armed. Both are right. But unlocked bikes are perfectly safe in Tokyo, so there are other factors at play, too.
I like people to have fun and feel comfortable.
On your book tour, how violent is the after-dinner horseplay allowed to get before someone gets thrown out / arrested? (Okay, it was Corpse Tooth who asked.)Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corpse Tooth
You would have loved some of my parties…
If you look at the photos of Matthew Winnick and his wife at the DM article they’re both white as white can be.
His wife’s Hispanic heritage is not obvious: she has blonde hair (could be dyed I suppose).
So where’s the race angle here?
OT — Boeing going boing — SIXTH time in five days, there are still two more days in this week.
https://goombastomp.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Steep-video-game-ski-xlarge.jpg
At this rate, Boeing will soon be not a going (concern). At least the civilian aircraft division.
Just noticin'Replies: @J.Ross, @Altai4
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/other/cockpit-mishap-might-have-caused-plunge-on-latam-boeing-787/ar-BB1jUQzi
A Latam Airlines flight attendant hit a switch on the pilot’s seat while serving a meal, leading a motorized feature to push the pilot into the controls and push down the plane’s nose, these officials said. The switch has a cover and isn’t supposed to be used when a pilot is in the seat. Around 50 passengers on the flight from Sydney to Auckland required medical attention, and some passengers were pinned to the ceiling as the airplane suddenly declined. Latam, a Chile-based airline, has said the Dreamliner suffered a ‘technical event during the flight which caused strong movement.
Yet another reason to always wear your seat belt.
But you're falling for one of these girly hysteric media narratives, not unlike yet another gun-waving black thug being shot by the police ... systemic racism!
The door blowout was a real Boeing issue and a real blow to Boeing. It showed that they still do not have their ducks in a row with quality-control managing and integrating their outsourcing--in this case the Spirit Aero fuselage sections. In fact, it turned out they had a gaping hole in their record keeping and couldn't even determine who did--didn't do--what.
On the other hand, a wheel falling off a 777? LOL. You want me to believe after 30 years there's an undiscovered flaw in the 777 undercarriage? Uh no. Rather that suggests a United mechanic just missed something during the gear's last inspection or lubrication or ... just some random bad luck.
Most of these incidents are just the hum-drum routine of air travel. With something like 100k flights a day, a few of them run into some issue in flight and have to divert. (I suspect almost all of us have been delayed a time or two for mechanics to fix some issue with our plane before departure. I certainly have.)
The sky is not falling. But yeah, Boeing still has a bunch of work to do most important fixing the quality control mess their outsourcing model has created--and then the longer term recovery from the hole in its lineup opposite the A321.Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @J.Ross, @David Davenport
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1769197637440319718?s=20
His wife’s Hispanic heritage is not obvious: she has blonde hair (could be dyed I suppose).
So where’s the race angle here?Replies: @Barnard, @Jenner Ickham Errican
Obviously you have never had first hand experience with a person with a marginal amount of Latin ancestry who is engaging in the flight from white. They get angry real fast when people assume they are white.
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Things are falling apart. Haiti is our Western Hemisphere’s extreme, and perhaps the US is at the other end of a continuum — at the other end of the range of current events.
“Be prepared” is the Boy Scout motto.
If you’ve read my comments over time, you know I follow this. We are already past the apex of what our people built. It’s all downhill from here, so put your skis on.
Country clubs are a sort of symptom of cultural obesity. In them you’ll find the idle, mediocre children of the rich waxing rude and arrogant amidst a setting of artificial natural beauty and tranquility, practically hand-fed by the modern equivalent of slaves.
It’s really contemptible, but I have no special sympathy for people like Winnick who are angry that they are not allowed to graze the pasture and feed at the trough.
In these increasingly troubled times, I am less and less inclined to excuse the behavior of the stomach-class, i.e. the careless rich who root up and consume at the expense of the rest of us
My eldest son already told me most of his future earnings will go to a foundation of his own creation. 🙂
Would you rather pay taxes so that a few golfers can monopolize a dozen acres of grass and trees?
-Discard
ICWYDT
Wouldn't the club have had to reject him first?...
Wait a second — Groucho Marx was a club member??
Wouldn’t the club have had to reject him first?…
His wife’s Hispanic heritage is not obvious: she has blonde hair (could be dyed I suppose).
So where’s the race angle here?Replies: @Barnard, @Jenner Ickham Errican
Are you calling those Jews liars? 🧐
The late Gary Winnick was Michael Milken’s chief junk bond salesman at Drexel Burnham .
“He told me his father founded Brentwood, a post-war Jewish country club, and had combined with Bob Hope in c. 1962 to get a referendum passed to set property taxes for golf courses at the level of agricultural land in return for not building on the land so as to keep traffic down. So western Lost Angeles has a lot of private golf clubs (such as Riviera, Bel-Air, and Wilshire) that would be taxed heavily if they were plowed under for housing.”
Would the government even let it be converted into housing? It’s California, after all.
Here in Denver, we had a developer who offered donate 2/3rds of a golf course to the city to convert into a public park in return for the right to convert the remaining 1/3rd of the land into housing. Yet voters rejected it, preferring to keep it a private space 99% of them couldn’t access than allow ebul developers to make money on housing.
https://www.axios.com/local/denver/2023/04/05/denver-election-park-hill-golf-course-vote-results
Asking for an internet acquaintance:
On your book tour, how violent is the after-dinner horseplay allowed to get before someone gets thrown out / arrested? (Okay, it was Corpse Tooth who asked.)
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Boeing going boing
At this rate, Boeing will soon be not a going (concern). At least the civilian aircraft division.
Sort of like most of the rest of California, then.
…well, not the Okie parts.
WSJ and Glenn Greenwald say that ZOG (*not* JOG) is behind the Tik-Tok ban. (Of course you’ve all heard that Hollywood has defected to the Palestinians):
https://rumble.com/v4j9vyc-system-update-show-242.html
I have eaten at both LA Country Club and Hillcrest, and Hillcrest had the superior chef (not a golfer, just an out of town lawyer with a lot of deals in LA in the 90s). Despite its number of plaintiff and film industry lawyers, will Hillcrest be forced to hire a defense attorney who belongs to the LACC?
According to the suit, the club opened in 1920 originally as a country club ‘for the Jewish community’ and claims that for 67 years it ‘refused admission to women and severely limited admission to non-Jewish members.’
Because the author of the quoted piece is a stupid journalist, this sentence as written says that the Hillcrest Country Club is making claims about its past admissions practices. Actually what’s happening is that because the lawsuit was filed by and/or on behalf of an idiot, the lawsuit includes a complaint about something the club stopped doing 37 years ago. Had the plaintiff tried to get into the club in 1987, he would have been rejected not because he’s allegedly partly Hispanic, but because he was five years old, and probably already obviously an idiot.
Liars or paranoid. Hard to say, there’s not much about him online.
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OT -- AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAnon said: Canada is just a punchline now.
This has been part of a continuing series about how Canada is declining.
https://archive.today/ZGQdiReplies: @Reg Cæsar
When poet and professor of English Bill Holm wasn’t observing Chinese nurses wiping hypo needles on their pantlegs before injecting them into a second patient’s arm, he would leave the keys in the ignition outside his Minneota [sic] home.
You could read this as people in the country being more honest, or people in the country more likely to be armed. Both are right. But unlocked bikes are perfectly safe in Tokyo, so there are other factors at play, too.
Are you in favor of segregation then? Because that’s what this is.
If someone wants to exclude, say, Asians or Christians, have at it, I’d say. I won’t support it (and I hope my friends won’t either), but someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus, @Truth
"Advocate of segregation in Los Angeles "
At this point in American history, nobody but those of sub-normal IQ thinks "diversity is our strength".
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In Ayn Rand’s magnum opus Atlas Shrugged, one of the signs of the collectivist Apocalypse was airliners falling out of the sky due to massive incompetence being tolerated and even encouraged.
Just noticin’
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On your book tour, how violent is the after-dinner horseplay allowed to get before someone gets thrown out / arrested? (Okay, it was Corpse Tooth who asked.)Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corpse Tooth
More wounded than killed is chill, the reverse is an issue. Steve’s small contribution to “The Rayshul Reckoning”….
Because Latino house help generally don’t steal, unlike blacks, whites, and Asians.
Which I believe is a part of the impetus for the support for the Latino invasion over the border, btw.
Think of all the unnecessarily large homes in the state of California alone! Them McMansions don’t clean themselves, and trophy wife is out of the question for cleaning duties. Bitch ain’t getting on her knees to clean her own toilet, or climbing a ladder to dust that crazy chandelier every week!
You want a resentful black or jealous white American housekeeper running around your house when you’re not home? Or would you rather have a short little Latino Oompa Loompa fresh from the Rio Grande chock full of Catholic-approved deference and gratitude?
Always liked Jack Benny and I am all in favor of clubs catering to ethnic preferences but these days it needs to be asked are they White members or Jewish?Replies: @anonymous, @Bill Jones
Can’t they just sic Susie Green on the guy?
"I'm much more Gentily than you!"
https://youtu.be/5M-tgHivx6s?si=SB9VlxPHHcrVJJTuReplies: @Reg Cæsar
It's really contemptible, but I have no special sympathy for people like Winnick who are angry that they are not allowed to graze the pasture and feed at the trough.
In these increasingly troubled times, I am less and less inclined to excuse the behavior of the stomach-class, i.e. the careless rich who root up and consume at the expense of the rest of usReplies: @Twinkie, @James J. O'Meara, @Prester John, @Dry, Watching Paint
I think there is a generational element to this. My wife’s grandparents belonged to a city dining club where the city fathers (including her two grandfathers) networked and their wives dined formally. Her parents and their peers belonged to a country club where there was more tennis, swimming, golf as well as dining for the families. My wife and I don’t belong to either. Instead we coach Judo, Jiujitsu, ballet, and rowing and are active in local charities and educational groups – nonprofits, if you will.
My eldest son already told me most of his future earnings will go to a foundation of his own creation. 🙂
Or the freedom of association.
If someone wants to exclude, say, Asians or Christians, have at it, I’d say. I won’t support it (and I hope my friends won’t either), but someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes.
That was Jim Crow in a nut shell.Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Curle
Larry David’s expulsion from the equivalent of Hillcrest came to mind.
“I’m much more Gentily than you!”
And a ponytail hangin' down
A wiggle in her walk and a giggle in her talk
Make the world go 'round
As long as they are Jewish.
Which I believe is a part of the impetus for the support for the Latino invasion over the border, btw.
Think of all the unnecessarily large homes in the state of California alone! Them McMansions don’t clean themselves, and trophy wife is out of the question for cleaning duties. Bitch ain’t getting on her knees to clean her own toilet, or climbing a ladder to dust that crazy chandelier every week!
You want a resentful black or jealous white American housekeeper running around your house when you’re not home? Or would you rather have a short little Latino Oompa Loompa fresh from the Rio Grande chock full of Catholic-approved deference and gratitude?Replies: @Sir Didymus, @Lurker, @Corvinus
Latinos don’t steal? What planet are you from?
And David”s attempt to get in the equivalent of the Los Angeles Country Club.
Go to the haredi koloniyot in New Jersey and tell the rabbis that effectively control the municipalities that they have to allow a sideshow and see what happens.
Just noticin'Replies: @J.Ross, @Altai4
Sometimes a guy just needs to assimilate liquid material if you know what I am saying.
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/groucho_marx_122546
Well that’s the end of Citizenism.
If someone wants to exclude, say, Asians or Christians, have at it, I’d say. I won’t support it (and I hope my friends won’t either), but someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus, @Truth
Except that Freedom of Association ended for whites with the civil rights movement. Naturally, Jews are exempt. But, hey, being in charge has its perks.
If someone wants to exclude, say, Asians or Christians, have at it, I’d say. I won’t support it (and I hope my friends won’t either), but someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus, @Truth
Why won’t you support it? And why do you not want your friends to support it?
It's really contemptible, but I have no special sympathy for people like Winnick who are angry that they are not allowed to graze the pasture and feed at the trough.
In these increasingly troubled times, I am less and less inclined to excuse the behavior of the stomach-class, i.e. the careless rich who root up and consume at the expense of the rest of usReplies: @Twinkie, @James J. O'Meara, @Prester John, @Dry, Watching Paint
“To them champagne and oysters is the height of civilization.” — Schopenhauer
Just noticin'Replies: @J.Ross, @Altai4
Except we’re at the high of a individualist dystopia and this was all triggered by Chicago school mentality guys from McDonnell Douglas pushing profits above all else and setting up shop in uber libertarian relaxed regulation South Carolina to avoid the union workers in uber social-democratic Oregon.
When he sat down at a terminal to enter or retrieve some information, he got a tap on the shoulder. A manager said that if he didn't get up immediately, all the union members would walk off, as the contract stipulated that only they could man the terminals.
When he looked further into this, he found that these union guys were getting paid less than the nonunion ones back east. And in pricy Oregon.
I'm not sure where his company was based, but they were owned by a bigger corporation (you'd recognize both their names from the supermarket) in the East Bay, where they have a lot of experience with West Coast unions.
Was Dave Min’s victory over Joanna Weiss the first confrontation in the great replacement of Jews by people East Asians decent?
I can’t find any official source for Ms Weiss being Jewish, but Weiss is a name correlated with being Jewish, her bio indicates she received the ADL Marcus Kaufman Jurisprudence Award (2020) and …
AIPAC uncorks $100 million war chest to sink progressive candidates (Min is the poster boy for being targeted by AIPAC)
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/03/aipac-israel-spending-democratic-primaries-00144552
It should be emphasized that I could find no sources confirming Ms Weiss is Jewish, or that Mr Min is not.
https://www.foxla.com/election/california-election-results-house-race-district-47
In any case, her religion might not be relevant here, as AIPAC's spending against her rival (Min) in the race might have been aimed at helping the Republican candidate (Scott Baugh) take back the district narrowly won by Katie Porter in 2022. Perhaps Min was considered a bigger threat to Baugh than Weiss was, so AIPAC went after him.
My analysis is predicated on AIPAC's working to help the Republicans keep their majority in the House this fall, which would probably suit Jewish interests better in the current environment if they can't crush the Resistance (the Squad).Replies: @J.Ross
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It’s not all Boeing’s fault:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/other/cockpit-mishap-might-have-caused-plunge-on-latam-boeing-787/ar-BB1jUQzi
A Latam Airlines flight attendant hit a switch on the pilot’s seat while serving a meal, leading a motorized feature to push the pilot into the controls and push down the plane’s nose, these officials said. The switch has a cover and isn’t supposed to be used when a pilot is in the seat. Around 50 passengers on the flight from Sydney to Auckland required medical attention, and some passengers were pinned to the ceiling as the airplane suddenly declined. Latam, a Chile-based airline, has said the Dreamliner suffered a ‘technical event during the flight which caused strong movement.
Yet another reason to always wear your seat belt.
Perhaps because so many other places in the city have become a toilet.
Journalists (or at least editors) really are swine. To say that the 2nd couple is “caught up” in this little tiff is just a lie – an excuse to drag their names into the article as clickbait.
LOL. Well done Steve! Pretty sure that’s going to be the laugh of the day.
Got to say, even though it’s a nothing burger, I love seeing this stuff. For the past 60 years, we goyim have had to listen to these endless, tedious finger wagging lectures on “racism” and “integration” and “diversity” from perhaps the world champion ethno-centric, tribal, integration rejecting people on the planet.
In this battle of parasites, i’m all in on the Hillcrest side here, after the Hillcrest board issues a statement that
— Waspy Acres keeping out Jews and maintaining their little Waspy paradise for themselves was perfectly natural and reasonable
— Harvard’s Jewish quotas were perfectly reasonable
and most importantly
—It is perfectly normal, reasonable and sensible for Americans to want to exclude foreigners from America and keep it a nice place to live for “ourselves and our posterity”.
After that statement, I’m all in with Hillcrest. Otherwise, I have a hard time seeing why Hillcrest–sucking up their huge tax subsidy–should not have membership diversity that reflects the demographics of Los Angeles County.
More like Washington state where Boeing was historically headquartered and has manufacturing facilities. But, otherwise decent point.
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Biased, Boeing is my #1 individual stock holding. (And yeah the last few years … ouch!)
But you’re falling for one of these girly hysteric media narratives, not unlike yet another gun-waving black thug being shot by the police … systemic racism!
The door blowout was a real Boeing issue and a real blow to Boeing. It showed that they still do not have their ducks in a row with quality-control managing and integrating their outsourcing–in this case the Spirit Aero fuselage sections. In fact, it turned out they had a gaping hole in their record keeping and couldn’t even determine who did–didn’t do–what.
On the other hand, a wheel falling off a 777? LOL. You want me to believe after 30 years there’s an undiscovered flaw in the 777 undercarriage? Uh no. Rather that suggests a United mechanic just missed something during the gear’s last inspection or lubrication or … just some random bad luck.
Most of these incidents are just the hum-drum routine of air travel. With something like 100k flights a day, a few of them run into some issue in flight and have to divert. (I suspect almost all of us have been delayed a time or two for mechanics to fix some issue with our plane before departure. I certainly have.)
The sky is not falling. But yeah, Boeing still has a bunch of work to do most important fixing the quality control mess their outsourcing model has created–and then the longer term recovery from the hole in its lineup opposite the A321.
Airlines, not Boeing or Airbus, are responsible for aircraft engine routine maintenance.
A 737 ran off the taxiway pavement and into the grass last week? Probably due to pilot error.
Time for SPLC to amend the Sailer wiki again.
“Advocate of segregation in Los Angeles ”
https://youtu.be/m8Ht_nsQ7Hs?si=P2a1EUMikmNdzswQReplies: @ex-banker
This story would be great if Larry David decides to do another season — and would have real basis in fact. In last week’s episode, Larry sponsored Lori Loughlin’s membership in his club after she’d been blackballed by the other clubs in LA. Handicap records indicate that she and her husband continue to play at Bel-Air and Lakeside, though, so not based in fact.
Re-reading Vanity Fair every 10 years or so keeps the modern world in perspective.
My brother-in-law was a foreman at one of his company’s non-union plants in Appalachia. They sent him to their Oregon facility to help install a system that had proved successful at his own.
When he sat down at a terminal to enter or retrieve some information, he got a tap on the shoulder. A manager said that if he didn’t get up immediately, all the union members would walk off, as the contract stipulated that only they could man the terminals.
When he looked further into this, he found that these union guys were getting paid less than the nonunion ones back east. And in pricy Oregon.
I’m not sure where his company was based, but they were owned by a bigger corporation (you’d recognize both their names from the supermarket) in the East Bay, where they have a lot of experience with West Coast unions.
“jerks who sues a lot”? OK, but can they at least conjugate verbs?
"I'm much more Gentily than you!"
https://youtu.be/5M-tgHivx6s?si=SB9VlxPHHcrVJJTuReplies: @Reg Cæsar
Gentily lace and a pretty face
And a ponytail hangin’ down
A wiggle in her walk and a giggle in her talk
Make the world go ’round
If someone wants to exclude, say, Asians or Christians, have at it, I’d say. I won’t support it (and I hope my friends won’t either), but someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus, @Truth
I get status seeking, even if it’s not my thing. I understand why someone would want to get the coveted invite to join Augusta. (I’d like to play a round there myself and see if I could break 120.)
But I don’t really get this desire–like Winnick here, like the Waspy Acres whiners back then–to push your way into someplace you are not wanted. To force your way in to be around people who do not want you around.
Jews seem to think this sort of behavior is great “chuztpah”, “bold”, “brave”–like they are Colombus or Daniel Boone or storming Omaha beach or something. I just see it as being an asshole.
Why would some Jewish guy be annoyed because other Jewish individuals don't want to have him around? What's the point?Replies: @Curle
Warning! Steve’s magnanimity is limited. If he finds you in his backyard sunbathing in the nude he’ll sick [sic] the jackrabbit on you and call the cops.
But you're falling for one of these girly hysteric media narratives, not unlike yet another gun-waving black thug being shot by the police ... systemic racism!
The door blowout was a real Boeing issue and a real blow to Boeing. It showed that they still do not have their ducks in a row with quality-control managing and integrating their outsourcing--in this case the Spirit Aero fuselage sections. In fact, it turned out they had a gaping hole in their record keeping and couldn't even determine who did--didn't do--what.
On the other hand, a wheel falling off a 777? LOL. You want me to believe after 30 years there's an undiscovered flaw in the 777 undercarriage? Uh no. Rather that suggests a United mechanic just missed something during the gear's last inspection or lubrication or ... just some random bad luck.
Most of these incidents are just the hum-drum routine of air travel. With something like 100k flights a day, a few of them run into some issue in flight and have to divert. (I suspect almost all of us have been delayed a time or two for mechanics to fix some issue with our plane before departure. I certainly have.)
The sky is not falling. But yeah, Boeing still has a bunch of work to do most important fixing the quality control mess their outsourcing model has created--and then the longer term recovery from the hole in its lineup opposite the A321.Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @J.Ross, @David Davenport
AD, consider that DEI may be the cover for industrial espionage. It’s true that Boeing has been a leader in hiring black ladies and other viral loads of colour. But the MIC is murky and there seems to be a force, domestic in my view, that is intent on destabilizing American power.
On your book tour, how violent is the after-dinner horseplay allowed to get before someone gets thrown out / arrested? (Okay, it was Corpse Tooth who asked.)Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corpse Tooth
Steve draws the line at nudity.
But you're falling for one of these girly hysteric media narratives, not unlike yet another gun-waving black thug being shot by the police ... systemic racism!
The door blowout was a real Boeing issue and a real blow to Boeing. It showed that they still do not have their ducks in a row with quality-control managing and integrating their outsourcing--in this case the Spirit Aero fuselage sections. In fact, it turned out they had a gaping hole in their record keeping and couldn't even determine who did--didn't do--what.
On the other hand, a wheel falling off a 777? LOL. You want me to believe after 30 years there's an undiscovered flaw in the 777 undercarriage? Uh no. Rather that suggests a United mechanic just missed something during the gear's last inspection or lubrication or ... just some random bad luck.
Most of these incidents are just the hum-drum routine of air travel. With something like 100k flights a day, a few of them run into some issue in flight and have to divert. (I suspect almost all of us have been delayed a time or two for mechanics to fix some issue with our plane before departure. I certainly have.)
The sky is not falling. But yeah, Boeing still has a bunch of work to do most important fixing the quality control mess their outsourcing model has created--and then the longer term recovery from the hole in its lineup opposite the A321.Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @J.Ross, @David Davenport
I am also seeing copium that this is deliberate, to lower the stock price for a buy-up.
I can't find any official source for Ms Weiss being Jewish, but Weiss is a name correlated with being Jewish, her bio indicates she received the ADL Marcus Kaufman Jurisprudence Award (2020) and ...
AIPAC uncorks $100 million war chest to sink progressive candidates (Min is the poster boy for being targeted by AIPAC)
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/03/aipac-israel-spending-democratic-primaries-00144552
It should be emphasized that I could find no sources confirming Ms Weiss is Jewish, or that Mr Min is not.Replies: @Dummy Bear
I don’t know either about Mrs Weiss’s religious background, but the following article mentions that her husband did some work for the Catholic diocese:
https://www.foxla.com/election/california-election-results-house-race-district-47
In any case, her religion might not be relevant here, as AIPAC’s spending against her rival (Min) in the race might have been aimed at helping the Republican candidate (Scott Baugh) take back the district narrowly won by Katie Porter in 2022. Perhaps Min was considered a bigger threat to Baugh than Weiss was, so AIPAC went after him.
My analysis is predicated on AIPAC’s working to help the Republicans keep their majority in the House this fall, which would probably suit Jewish interests better in the current environment if they can’t crush the Resistance (the Squad).
https://i.postimg.cc/G3vJ9stq/1710448473264905.pngReplies: @Buzz Mohawk, @epebble, @Muggles, @Jim Don Bob, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @mc23
I feel sorry for anyone who has invested a lot of $$$s in Boeing stock.
It's really contemptible, but I have no special sympathy for people like Winnick who are angry that they are not allowed to graze the pasture and feed at the trough.
In these increasingly troubled times, I am less and less inclined to excuse the behavior of the stomach-class, i.e. the careless rich who root up and consume at the expense of the rest of usReplies: @Twinkie, @James J. O'Meara, @Prester John, @Dry, Watching Paint
I seem to remember that, awhile back, it was iSteve who wrote something about half the membership of Hillcrest blowing off the links in favor of the pastrami sandwiches and potato salad but I could be wrong.
Which I believe is a part of the impetus for the support for the Latino invasion over the border, btw.
Think of all the unnecessarily large homes in the state of California alone! Them McMansions don’t clean themselves, and trophy wife is out of the question for cleaning duties. Bitch ain’t getting on her knees to clean her own toilet, or climbing a ladder to dust that crazy chandelier every week!
You want a resentful black or jealous white American housekeeper running around your house when you’re not home? Or would you rather have a short little Latino Oompa Loompa fresh from the Rio Grande chock full of Catholic-approved deference and gratitude?Replies: @Sir Didymus, @Lurker, @Corvinus
If whites steal more than Latinos why isn’t this reflected in available crime statistics?
This is particularly true in highly diverse areas, but in an overwhelmingly white locale white housekeepers are fine. Back in the 50s Loretta Lynn did housekeeping work about ten miles up the road from where I live. Cleaning is an honorable line of work and should be decently compensated IMO. Personally, I can't stand it (my sense of smell is too keen and I have a sensitive emetic reflex), but I'm sure glad people do it and I make sure to show appreciation toward them.
From my experience of Jews I think something a lot of people are going to miss about this is that this sort of thing – which just about most non-Jews would find to be something between annoying and terrifying – is great fun to Jews. They’re all going to have a grand old time for a few years trading these jabs and insults publicly, and the gossiping will be epic. It won’t matter so much what the outcome is (I imagine that at some point the Judge is going to get both sides by the ears and make them both unhappy so the demands and counter demands probably won’t amount to much in the end).
This is an example of why I think it is a great idea for Jews and everyone else to have their own private clubs where they get to live out these dramas each according to its peculiar temperaments and proclivities.
About 14 years ago, when I lived in Mount Shasta, a group of environmental activists circulated a a local initiative to ban cloud seeding, ban the sale of water extracted from the city, and ban corporations from operating in the city. They received help in drafting it, and possibly a financial donation, from Global Crossing, which was apparently the same communications company owned by Gary Winnick. About 20% of the voters signed the petition. It is that kind of town. Many of the signators believed it would ban the chemtrail geoengineering which they were sure the government was doing. That was well over the requirement, but the initiative was disqualified because two slightly different drafts were being circulated, with one version presented to the city clerk and another presented to the County elections officials. I’m not sure why someone like Winnick, who made his fortune legitimizing the trade in junk bonds, would support an initiative prohibiting incorporated businesses from operating in a local area. Maybe because his wife was a wildlife activist or one of his offspring was a radical.
They don’t. It’s just that the whites who clean houses are from a lower stratum (relative to other whites) than the Latinos who do so (relative to other Latinos).
This is particularly true in highly diverse areas, but in an overwhelmingly white locale white housekeepers are fine. Back in the 50s Loretta Lynn did housekeeping work about ten miles up the road from where I live. Cleaning is an honorable line of work and should be decently compensated IMO. Personally, I can’t stand it (my sense of smell is too keen and I have a sensitive emetic reflex), but I’m sure glad people do it and I make sure to show appreciation toward them.
Always liked Jack Benny and I am all in favor of clubs catering to ethnic preferences but these days it needs to be asked are they White members or Jewish?Replies: @anonymous, @Bill Jones
The complaint seems to be excessive yiddiphilia.
Seriously? Of course, we’re in favor of segregation.
At this point in American history, nobody but those of sub-normal IQ thinks “diversity is our strength”.
Which I believe is a part of the impetus for the support for the Latino invasion over the border, btw.
Think of all the unnecessarily large homes in the state of California alone! Them McMansions don’t clean themselves, and trophy wife is out of the question for cleaning duties. Bitch ain’t getting on her knees to clean her own toilet, or climbing a ladder to dust that crazy chandelier every week!
You want a resentful black or jealous white American housekeeper running around your house when you’re not home? Or would you rather have a short little Latino Oompa Loompa fresh from the Rio Grande chock full of Catholic-approved deference and gratitude?Replies: @Sir Didymus, @Lurker, @Corvinus
Roissy, is that you?
“Except that Freedom of Association ended for whites with the civil rights movement.”
Not quite. You can associate with whoever you prefer. Feel free to not hire or move next to non-whites. You have that liberty.
Of course, your southern whites relatives f—— up. All they had to do was observe separate but equal. Now we’re paying the price with integrated ‘Bama football teams.
“Naturally, Jews are exempt. But, hey, being in charge has its perks.”
Well, you had your entire adult life to seek to get them expelled from “your white homeland”, and you chose not to do anything about it. So I say you get what you deserve.
https://www.foxla.com/election/california-election-results-house-race-district-47
In any case, her religion might not be relevant here, as AIPAC's spending against her rival (Min) in the race might have been aimed at helping the Republican candidate (Scott Baugh) take back the district narrowly won by Katie Porter in 2022. Perhaps Min was considered a bigger threat to Baugh than Weiss was, so AIPAC went after him.
My analysis is predicated on AIPAC's working to help the Republicans keep their majority in the House this fall, which would probably suit Jewish interests better in the current environment if they can't crush the Resistance (the Squad).Replies: @J.Ross
It would surely be good for the Jews, but not necessarily Good For The Jews. There’s a difference. Chatter suggests that some Jews (Ackman) somehow have actually learned something for once (Bai Dien’s foreign policy record isn’t exactly a mystery, Trump’s was unambiguous: Jews, by overwhelmingly supporting Democrats, voluntarily chose physical danger, and because they didn’t like a guy’s communication style), so I’m waiting to see how many; meanwhile, just in time to vindicate the word choice of the Hewitt/Oren interview (“Biden Threatens Netanyahu”), no less Jewy a Jew than Charles “Quizboy” Schumer flat out attacked Netanyahu, about as clumsily as he attacked that friend of his who admitted to being a Trump supporter, essentially demanding he leave office. Recall Michael Oren in the interview, the current conflict has near-universal support among Israelis, and were you to swap Netanyahu for Gantz, the exact same policies would remain in place. Oren’s completely correct here.
I don’t quite get it (although I consider the entire club socializing culture something Anglo-Saxony pervy & dull).
Why would some Jewish guy be annoyed because other Jewish individuals don’t want to have him around? What’s the point?
As long as they’re remanded to their homes under threat of imprisonment and wear a mask.
Yeah, Jews wanted to have their own exclusive thing while, at the same time, raising holy hell over other groups wanting the same thing.
But you're falling for one of these girly hysteric media narratives, not unlike yet another gun-waving black thug being shot by the police ... systemic racism!
The door blowout was a real Boeing issue and a real blow to Boeing. It showed that they still do not have their ducks in a row with quality-control managing and integrating their outsourcing--in this case the Spirit Aero fuselage sections. In fact, it turned out they had a gaping hole in their record keeping and couldn't even determine who did--didn't do--what.
On the other hand, a wheel falling off a 777? LOL. You want me to believe after 30 years there's an undiscovered flaw in the 777 undercarriage? Uh no. Rather that suggests a United mechanic just missed something during the gear's last inspection or lubrication or ... just some random bad luck.
Most of these incidents are just the hum-drum routine of air travel. With something like 100k flights a day, a few of them run into some issue in flight and have to divert. (I suspect almost all of us have been delayed a time or two for mechanics to fix some issue with our plane before departure. I certainly have.)
The sky is not falling. But yeah, Boeing still has a bunch of work to do most important fixing the quality control mess their outsourcing model has created--and then the longer term recovery from the hole in its lineup opposite the A321.Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @J.Ross, @David Davenport
Also, Boeing doesn’t make make jet aircraft engines. Engines for Boeing airliners are made by the Pratt and Whitney division of RTX or by General Electric.
Airlines, not Boeing or Airbus, are responsible for aircraft engine routine maintenance.
A 737 ran off the taxiway pavement and into the grass last week? Probably due to pilot error.
The Bare Hare.
The Hare Bear.
“Hillcrest was founded in 1920, supposedly due to Jews not being admitted by Los Angeles Country Club, but also, I suspect, because a lot of Jews felt, not unreasonably, that it would be more fun for them to have an all-Jewish country club. Hillcrest was a huge hit with movie business Jews, such as member Groucho Marx, and is said to have had the highest dues of any country club in America during the Roaring 20s.”
Among your many, many articles regarding golf, Steve, you’ve never directly mentioned exactly how good a golf course is Hillcrest. In other words, has the PGA ever hosted the US Open or the PGA Open there? It would seem that Hillcrest was more of a socializing, good food kind of club and did not emphasize golf as other clubs of the era.
You have mentioned before that exclusively posh Bel-Air Country Club (or was it Beverly Hills or LA Country Club) had a major reputation of NOT accepting Hollywood Alisters for membership–the major exception being Western star Randolph Scott, who was different in some ways from the average Alister (Scott personally designed a golf course in LA during the late ’20’s when he first moved there, he made a vast fortune in oil and real estate in CA, and played in a few Pro-Am tournaments.)
Point being, that whichever elite SoCal country club refused to accept actors, they did accept Randolph Scott as a member.
I’ve never played Hillcrest, been to a tournament there, or been to a wedding there. Hillcrest CC has been revamped since then, but back around 1990, architect Tom Doak rated Hillcrest as only a 3 on his Doak Scale from 0 to 10 in which the average decent golf course is a 2, Pebble Beach is a 9, and Cypress Point is a 10 (i.e., the Doak Scale is designed to distinguish carefully among the top few hundred golf courses in the world so that even Pebble, one of the three or four most famous golf courses in the world along with St. Andrews, Augusta National, and maybe TPC, doesn’t get a 10). So that would suggest Hillcrest was long a run of the mill country club course.
It’s located on nice hilly land next to the popular Rancho Park muny course that was often the busiest golf course in America in the second half of the 20th Century, so between having decent land and a ton of money, it should be at least a 6.
Looking at current pictures, Hillcrest looks very nice, but a little uninspired compared to Riviera, LACC, Bel-Air, and even the very small (106 acres) and mostly flat Wilshire.
In this century, after the end of the golf boom by 2005, much of the energy in golf course design has been devoted to restoring Old Money golf courses by finding aerial photos. Hillcrest is Old Money, but it apparently was never a great golf course in the 1920s like the other top Los Angeles private courses were. Golf course architecture was a WASP art form.
“(i.e., the Doak Scale is designed to distinguish carefully among the top few hundred golf courses in the world so that even Pebble, one of the three or four most famous golf courses in the world along with St. Andrews, Augusta National, and maybe TPC, doesn’t get a 10)”
But if there is a scale of 0 to 10 of which to rank the top golf courses in the world, as cream rises to the top, eventually a “perfect 10” will indeed rise to the top and stand out from among the best of the best. The examples you named here would certainly qualify among golf afficionados, casual fans, and pros as examples of perfect 10s.
Also what they have going in their favor (besides storied history, of course) is that PGA Majors have been regularly played on the courses for a long time. One way to distinguish between run of the mill courses and the best that the sport has to offer, is that when one thinks of golf, whether as a fan or as a PGA pro, St Andrews; Augusta National; and certainly Pebble Beach immediately come to mind as stand out examples of golf itself–the best courses in the world that the sport can offer. And those three examples would definitely make the top of the lists as global courses, or the best in the world.
In any sport, there is always the best of the best. Within the top 1%, there is the top sliver of the top 1%, and that would qualify as a perfect 10. (e.g. In the 20th century there was Jordan for the NBA; Ruth for MLB; and Unitas/Brown/Rice on offense; Greene/LT/White on defense for the NFL–the best of the best that helped to define their sports in the public and expert’s collective consciousness as to what constitutes greatness)
After all, if the PGA wasn’t more than satisfied with Augusta and St Andrews, then they’d chose other courses on which to play the Major tournaments.
These three specific courses are so indelibly linked in golf’s collective consciousness as being the best of the best, examples of the best in the world. These courses showcase the sport, which in turn showcases the courses.
That would be one example of qualifying as perfect 10s; until a uniformly consensus course comes along, then St Andrews; Augusta National; and Pebble will have to do.
Doak is an extreme elitist when it comes to golf courses like you are with baseball players and the Hall of Fame: Pebble Beach isn’t quite as good as its neighbor Cypress Point, so Pebble’s a 9 while Cypress is a 10.
In 2024 for future inductees, I see Ohtani; Judge; Trout; Verlander; Pujols; Cabrera. Perhaps another dozen or so that can credibly measure up to the original list.HOFs were never intended to be the "put just about everyone in, those dudes kinda sorta look good."After all, if you can put in Jim Rice, then you certainly can put in Dave Kingman.Thinking over what you wrote some time ago, I do think that Rusty Staub will eventually get inducted into the HOF. Not because of his stats, but because sooner or later it will occur to Woke culture to induct him, because obviously that's a major blight vs a protected community. So I do expect to see that sort of thing occur down the road and in the future.Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anonymous, @Truth
Would the government even let it be converted into housing? It's California, after all.
Here in Denver, we had a developer who offered donate 2/3rds of a golf course to the city to convert into a public park in return for the right to convert the remaining 1/3rd of the land into housing. Yet voters rejected it, preferring to keep it a private space 99% of them couldn't access than allow ebul developers to make money on housing.
https://www.axios.com/local/denver/2023/04/05/denver-election-park-hill-golf-course-vote-resultsReplies: @Graham
The residents of Denver were no doubt worried that if permission was granted to build on part of the land, that would set a precedent, and the city would later change its mind about keeping the rest of the land as a park.
Would that more Jews felt the same way!
“Doak is an extreme elitist when it comes to golf courses like you are with baseball players and the Hall of Fame”
I am being consistent. That is what the HOFs are supposed to be about–original intent-only the top 1% of the top 1% are supposed to be inducted.
If I look at the original inductees for Cooperstown’s opening and inaugural class of 1939, I see the names:
Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Cy Young, George Sisler, Honus Wagner, G.C. Alexander, Connie Mack, Tris Speaker, Eddie Collins, and Larry Lajoie [Throw in Grover Cleveland Alexander and Christy Matthewson in the inaugural class as well]
These inductees of the HOF set the standard, with the real understanding that future inductees must measure up.
In 2024 for future inductees, I see Ohtani; Judge; Trout; Verlander; Pujols; Cabrera. Perhaps another dozen or so that can credibly measure up to the original list.
HOFs were never intended to be the “put just about everyone in, those dudes kinda sorta look good.”
After all, if you can put in Jim Rice, then you certainly can put in Dave Kingman.
Thinking over what you wrote some time ago, I do think that Rusty Staub will eventually get inducted into the HOF. Not because of his stats, but because sooner or later it will occur to Woke culture to induct him, because obviously that’s a major blight vs a protected community. So I do expect to see that sort of thing occur down the road and in the future.
If someone wants to exclude, say, Asians or Christians, have at it, I’d say. I won’t support it (and I hope my friends won’t either), but someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus, @Truth
“but someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes”
That was Jim Crow in a nut shell.
That was Jim Crow in a nut shell.Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Curle
“That was Jim Crow in a nut shell.”
It is part of the First Amendment of the US Constitution, freedom of association. It’s been around since the US ratified the Constitution.
In 2024 for future inductees, I see Ohtani; Judge; Trout; Verlander; Pujols; Cabrera. Perhaps another dozen or so that can credibly measure up to the original list.HOFs were never intended to be the "put just about everyone in, those dudes kinda sorta look good."After all, if you can put in Jim Rice, then you certainly can put in Dave Kingman.Thinking over what you wrote some time ago, I do think that Rusty Staub will eventually get inducted into the HOF. Not because of his stats, but because sooner or later it will occur to Woke culture to induct him, because obviously that's a major blight vs a protected community. So I do expect to see that sort of thing occur down the road and in the future.Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anonymous, @Truth
While I tend to agree with you that neither belongs in the HOF, there is really no question that Rice was the far superior player. Rice’s career WAR was 47.7, Kingman’s was 17.3. Other than total HRs, there is no stat that Kingman approaches Rice. Rice had superior Slugging percentage, BA, OBP, OPS, OPS+, as well as finishing top 5 in MVP vote six times which Kingman never did. While Rice wasa poor defensive player with a cumulative -8 defensive WAR for his career, Kingman was far worse with a cumulative -16.7 in a shorter career. Bottom line Rice was much, much better player.
https://i.postimg.cc/G3vJ9stq/1710448473264905.pngReplies: @Buzz Mohawk, @epebble, @Muggles, @Jim Don Bob, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @mc23
Help is on the way. The American can do spirit.
“It is part of the First Amendment of the US Constitution, freedom of association. It’s been around since the US ratified the Constitution.”
Freedom of association remains intact.
Remember, free speech is never free, and it has positive and negative consequences. Also recall that southern whites refused to adhere to the “separate but equal doctrine”. As a result, We The People demanded a legal remedy to cure an injustice.
You were a ‘people’ of a southern state? You made your appeal to your fellow people of that state?
I’d be interested to see your curriculum vitae relative to time spent in southern mixed race and/or segregated schools.
That was Jim Crow in a nut shell.Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Curle
Jim Crow, or Black Codes if you prefer, were ubiquitous in the North before Southerners ever found a need for them. If you need to point a finger point it at a Yankee.
Of course there was northern segregation. But if you following along, I agreed with Twinkies’ statement that “someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes”. Jim Crow/Black Codes created this prohibition.
“Jim Crow, or Black Codes if you prefer, were ubiquitous in the North before Southerners ever found a need for them. If you need to point a finger point it at a Yankee.”
Of course there was northern segregation. But if you following along, I agreed with Twinkies’ statement that “someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes”. Jim Crow/Black Codes created this prohibition.
It's really contemptible, but I have no special sympathy for people like Winnick who are angry that they are not allowed to graze the pasture and feed at the trough.
In these increasingly troubled times, I am less and less inclined to excuse the behavior of the stomach-class, i.e. the careless rich who root up and consume at the expense of the rest of usReplies: @Twinkie, @James J. O'Meara, @Prester John, @Dry, Watching Paint
No, country clubs are not a symptom of cultural obesity. I don’t play golf or tennis, but if I did, joining a country club would be perfectly reasonable. You pay your money and you get a facility that is not dependent on the taxpayers. If things are run down you know who to complain to, and you don’t have to put up with Jews/Goyim or random criminals if you don’t want to.
Would you rather pay taxes so that a few golfers can monopolize a dozen acres of grass and trees?
-Discard
In 2024 for future inductees, I see Ohtani; Judge; Trout; Verlander; Pujols; Cabrera. Perhaps another dozen or so that can credibly measure up to the original list.HOFs were never intended to be the "put just about everyone in, those dudes kinda sorta look good."After all, if you can put in Jim Rice, then you certainly can put in Dave Kingman.Thinking over what you wrote some time ago, I do think that Rusty Staub will eventually get inducted into the HOF. Not because of his stats, but because sooner or later it will occur to Woke culture to induct him, because obviously that's a major blight vs a protected community. So I do expect to see that sort of thing occur down the road and in the future.Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anonymous, @Truth
Judge isn’t all that great.
Why would some Jewish guy be annoyed because other Jewish individuals don't want to have him around? What's the point?Replies: @Curle
Social connections are business connections. Let’s say for instance someone’s giving you problems and you need to have them receive an unpleasant visit by some scary person. Whaddya gonna do? Spend days at the Gentile club trying to make contacts with the ‘right’ sort of people who can make an introduction? Of course not! You’d stand out like a sore thumb. But, among your own people where discretion is more likely to be honored, introductions can be arranged.
If someone wants to exclude, say, Asians or Christians, have at it, I’d say. I won’t support it (and I hope my friends won’t either), but someone shouldn’t be barred from associating with whom he likes.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus, @Truth
You are not barred from associating with whom you like. You can have a barbecue at your house and invite whomever you like.
You are barred from neglecting to conduct commerce with a group of similar people whom you don’t like.
Huge difference. If this golf course which is publicly subsidized will not admit certain people, that is taxation without representation.
…Could be Fred Reed.
In 2024 for future inductees, I see Ohtani; Judge; Trout; Verlander; Pujols; Cabrera. Perhaps another dozen or so that can credibly measure up to the original list.HOFs were never intended to be the "put just about everyone in, those dudes kinda sorta look good."After all, if you can put in Jim Rice, then you certainly can put in Dave Kingman.Thinking over what you wrote some time ago, I do think that Rusty Staub will eventually get inducted into the HOF. Not because of his stats, but because sooner or later it will occur to Woke culture to induct him, because obviously that's a major blight vs a protected community. So I do expect to see that sort of thing occur down the road and in the future.Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anonymous, @Truth
Free Jackie Robinson!