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There’s an unconfirmed rumor going around that poor Tyre Nichols of Memphis was beaten to death for similar reasons to why Ron Goldman got damn near decapitated in Brentwood in 1994. No proof of that rumor yet, but it’s worth remembering that we don’t know why he’s dead.

From Newsweek (not necessarily the most reliable source, but these days an interesting one):

Tyre Nichols’ Rumored Connection to Cop’s Ex-Wife Under Investigation
BY MATTHEW IMPELLI ON 2/1/23 AT 12:37 PM EST

The Memphis Police Department is currently investigating rumors regarding a possible connection between Tyre Nichols and the ex-wife or ex-girlfriend of one of the Memphis cops arrested and charged in Nichols’ death.

On Wednesday morning, Newsweek asked the Shelby County district attorney’s office if it is investigating possible rumors connecting Nichols to the ex-girlfriend or ex-wife of former Memphis cop Demetrius Haley. Additionally, Newsweek asked about rumors that Haley sent photos of Nichols to his ex-wife following the violent arrest of the 29-year-old Black man.

“All of this is still under investigation. Those are the things, along with the participation of others, that [are] now the subject of our investigation,” a spokesperson for the Shelby County district attorney told Newsweek in response.

Erica Williams, the director of communications at the Shelby County district attorney’s office, clarified to Newsweek that rumors about Nichols having a connection to the woman have not been “confirmed.”

Following the death of Nichols, rumors circulated on social media that there was a connection between the ex-girlfriend or ex-wife of Haley and Nichols. …

Additionally, Facebook user John Best said that he recently spoke with Nichols’ parents, who said that the rumor was not true.

It’s especially important for the Establishment to not rush to conclude that We Must Cut Back on Enforcement of Traffic Laws in the Name of Tyre Nichols, when this might turn out to be a completely different kind of case. 21st Century America has a history of rushing to conclusions about cases of blacks getting killed that turn out not to be true even in their sample size of one.

 
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  1. HFS. I was just reading this old post of Muggles. Incredible. Of course, this other case didn’t make national headlines, because reasons.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/foucaults-butterknife/#comment-5784712

    • Thanks: Paul Jolliffe
    • Replies: @Ebony Obelisk
    @Inverness

    Found the racist

    It was a local matter. Why put the family’s through a media circus

    That says more about you than anything you coward. Your private parts must be comically small

    Those cops were acting white. Only white men committ violence or infect the peaceful souls of others. That’s just a fact. Non existent whites create hatred and make People of Colour commit violence

    The Memphis and Houston cases are white supremacy violence

    We are winning we are going to good guy accountable look at South Africa if you people can’t be decent human being your going to get the farm treatment

    Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @tyrone, @fish

  2. Or maybe his real crime, in the eyes of the officers, was ‘acting White.’ In contrast to the police officers’ typically Black speaking styles, his accent and grammar sounded pretty White in the video we have. Which seems to fit with the picture we have of his interests; a keen skateboarder (though he is originally from California), a Starbucks enthusiast, he also maintained a photography blog. I say this tongue-in-cheek, but it is certainly possible that, in addition to its many other deleterious consequences, the Racial Reckoning might also have increased Black hostility against those who ‘act White.’ It’s something for the Van Joneses of the world to consider, “Tyre Nichols was Black, but his death might still have been driven by anti-White racism.”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Ryan Andrews

    Van Jones makes way too much money off his grift to say anything against the narrative. I'm sure he actually believes what he says because even sociopaths suffer from cognitive dissonance, and seek to resolve it.

  3. If true, this is going to make “hiring equity” even more difficult for MPD.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Redneck farmer

    At what point do the large employers in the area like Fed Ex start putting pressure on the state of Tennessee to step in and take over administration of the Memphis PD just to keep the area safe for their operations?

    Replies: @Hibernian

  4. Aren’t rumours by definition unconfirmed?

    I’ve been looking out for, but haven’t seen, any media reference as to whether Nichols had a criminal record. If he didn’t have one, I would still expect that to have been reported. Not that any criminal record would bear directly on the case, but it might pall the beatific light.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Henry's Cat

    Zombie Newsweek says no criminal record, but is using weirdly cautious language, plus (as they say) even if he had no previous trouble he still could have been (and by all accounts was) acting up that night.
    https://www.newsweek.com/tyre-nichols-criminal-record-memphis-tenessee-police-arrested-1777069#:~:text=At%20the%20time%20of%20writing%2C%20there%20is%20no,footage%20of%20the%20traffic%20stop%20on%20Friday%20afternoon.

    , @AceDeuce
    @Henry's Cat


    I’ve been looking out for, but haven’t seen, any media reference as to whether Nichols had a criminal record. If he didn’t have one, I would still expect that to have been reported.
     
    Wow, you're very naïve.

    Nigbos always talk endlessly about "truth" and being "real", but there is no group more untruthful and sneaky and fake. There probably is much more to this, but I don't know if we'll ever be told what really happened.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    , @bomag
    @Henry's Cat

    An issue is that he came of age in an era of efforts to reduce the Black footprint in the criminal justice system. So he could have well been a saint, but one still wonders, especially with his behavior that night.

  5. That sounds about right.

    “Watch out, I’m gonna baton the f—k outta ya! Gimme you’re f—king hands!” one of the cops yells, with the video showing one of Nichols’ wrists handcuffed and held by a different officer.

    Then we get… DUH —

    At one point in the video, the cops complain about accidentally pepper spraying themselves.

    “I sprayed myself,” one cop says.

    “Man, me, too!” the other replies.

    Next time shoot yourself.

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/27/over-an-hour-of-footage-reveals-horror-of-fatal-tyre-nichols-police-beating/

  6. • Replies: @tyrone
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Bush's accuser found dead.
     
    ...... There are benefits to being a friend of Bill and Hillary .
    , @Jack D
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Breaking news from 2003!

    Either this (African-American) woman's story is true - she was brutally raped and kidnapped by not only George Bush but also by a slew of FBI agents and then she was murdered to cover it up. Or else she was nuts and killed herself. I'm voting for the latter.

    Replies: @BB753

  7. Completely OT, but has anyone else considered that Prince Harry might be the reincarnation of John Lennon? The timing is right. Both went from rake to cuck milquetoast rather abruptly, smitten by some mad American chick-of-color. (At least Great-granduncle Ted stuck with his own race.)

    Yes, Yoko– who turns 90 this month– is way more American than Japanese. Whether or not she’s a citizen.

    According to this page, evidently written by a cheap Bangalore knock-off of ChatGPT, Lennon was born in Canada and joined the RAF at age ten:

    https://www.boysetsfire.net/john-lennons-battle-for-a-green-card/

    The Difference Between Speaking and Thinking:
    The human brain could explain why AI programs are so good at writing grammatically superb nonsense.

    • Replies: @Clark Kent
    @Reg Cæsar

    I made the observation in comments on a story here last week. Great minds think alike? 😁

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    You remind me of the meme I saw which had Yoko bragging about breaking up the Beatles, to which Meghan responds "hold my Rosé"

    Harry, like Charles III and the Duke of Windsor, suffers from the need for a mommy wife. Unfortunately he picked a much worse wife than Charles and David did.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    , @Mike Tre
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Yes, Yoko– who turns 90 this month– is way more American than Japanese. "

    LOL. No, she isn't.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Thea
    @Reg Cæsar

    Imagine is a horrible song . If the philosophy is followed to its logical conclusion we get a nihilistic, self-interested culture where shallow, ephemeral pursuits are elevated above morality and heroism. The most trivial aspects a a person’s character must be public celebrity and legitimate faults never mentioned( obese women are beautiful!)

    In a nutshell, Yoko Ono can be blamed for our course, crass anti-white culture. :)

    Replies: @njguy73, @Hibernian

    , @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yoko’s social stand was Japanese enough. How many here have a great grandfather who was a financier? Lennon’s dad was mostly itinerant.

    Lennon had women throw themselves at him when the Beatles got big but I didn’t get the impression he was a ladies’ man before that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuda_Zenjir%C5%8D

  8. @Reg Cæsar
    Completely OT, but has anyone else considered that Prince Harry might be the reincarnation of John Lennon? The timing is right. Both went from rake to cuck milquetoast rather abruptly, smitten by some mad American chick-of-color. (At least Great-granduncle Ted stuck with his own race.)

    Yes, Yoko-- who turns 90 this month-- is way more American than Japanese. Whether or not she's a citizen.

    According to this page, evidently written by a cheap Bangalore knock-off of ChatGPT, Lennon was born in Canada and joined the RAF at age ten:



    https://www.boysetsfire.net/john-lennons-battle-for-a-green-card/


    The Difference Between Speaking and Thinking:
    The human brain could explain why AI programs are so good at writing grammatically superb nonsense.

    Replies: @Clark Kent, @AndrewR, @Mike Tre, @Thea, @Curle

    I made the observation in comments on a story here last week. Great minds think alike? 😁

    • LOL: ArthurinCali
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Clark Kent


    I made the observation in comments on a story here last week.
     
    You left out the used-to-be-a-rake part, though. Their post hoc feminism may just be guilt at work. The opposite trajectory of Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, and even Hugh Hefner, who used "women's lib" as a tool to get laid.

    Though Clinton chose a "mommy wife" as well, that was for management purposes. The man feels no guilt for anything.

  9. OT — Reminder that the female chief in Memphis in charge of this unit had been fired from a similar position in Atlanta because she got caught trying to stop an investigation into a friend of hers for pædophilia. So it’s substandard hires all the way up.
    ———-
    Well-known Russian-speaking Putin apologists at the infamous, Trump Hotel-headquartered “Circle of Ilya Muromets” warn that this idea of Vietnamming Russia in Ukraine just might have started to get a little Iraqqy on us, and suggest that we might figure out what it is we’re trying to do here.
    Oh, wait, that’s not CoIM, it’s the RAND Corporation. But the R in RAND stands for Russia.
    https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA2510-1.html

  10. @Ryan Andrews
    Or maybe his real crime, in the eyes of the officers, was 'acting White.' In contrast to the police officers' typically Black speaking styles, his accent and grammar sounded pretty White in the video we have. Which seems to fit with the picture we have of his interests; a keen skateboarder (though he is originally from California), a Starbucks enthusiast, he also maintained a photography blog. I say this tongue-in-cheek, but it is certainly possible that, in addition to its many other deleterious consequences, the Racial Reckoning might also have increased Black hostility against those who 'act White.' It's something for the Van Joneses of the world to consider, "Tyre Nichols was Black, but his death might still have been driven by anti-White racism."

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Van Jones makes way too much money off his grift to say anything against the narrative. I’m sure he actually believes what he says because even sociopaths suffer from cognitive dissonance, and seek to resolve it.

    • Agree: fish, ArthurinCali
  11. @Henry's Cat
    Aren't rumours by definition unconfirmed?

    I've been looking out for, but haven't seen, any media reference as to whether Nichols had a criminal record. If he didn't have one, I would still expect that to have been reported. Not that any criminal record would bear directly on the case, but it might pall the beatific light.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AceDeuce, @bomag

    Zombie Newsweek says no criminal record, but is using weirdly cautious language, plus (as they say) even if he had no previous trouble he still could have been (and by all accounts was) acting up that night.
    https://www.newsweek.com/tyre-nichols-criminal-record-memphis-tenessee-police-arrested-1777069#:~:text=At%20the%20time%20of%20writing%2C%20there%20is%20no,footage%20of%20the%20traffic%20stop%20on%20Friday%20afternoon.

  12. @Reg Cæsar
    Completely OT, but has anyone else considered that Prince Harry might be the reincarnation of John Lennon? The timing is right. Both went from rake to cuck milquetoast rather abruptly, smitten by some mad American chick-of-color. (At least Great-granduncle Ted stuck with his own race.)

    Yes, Yoko-- who turns 90 this month-- is way more American than Japanese. Whether or not she's a citizen.

    According to this page, evidently written by a cheap Bangalore knock-off of ChatGPT, Lennon was born in Canada and joined the RAF at age ten:



    https://www.boysetsfire.net/john-lennons-battle-for-a-green-card/


    The Difference Between Speaking and Thinking:
    The human brain could explain why AI programs are so good at writing grammatically superb nonsense.

    Replies: @Clark Kent, @AndrewR, @Mike Tre, @Thea, @Curle

    You remind me of the meme I saw which had Yoko bragging about breaking up the Beatles, to which Meghan responds “hold my Rosé”

    Harry, like Charles III and the Duke of Windsor, suffers from the need for a mommy wife. Unfortunately he picked a much worse wife than Charles and David did.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @AndrewR

    Could be.

    As for Lennon, he called Yoko “Mother”.

    I read some stuff Cynthia Lennon wrote about John Lennon and May Pang. Actually, May and Cynthia met when John was with May, and were close friends between the time of John’s death and Cynthia’s death. They even went together to a public memorial for John held by his fans in Central Park, and nobody recognized them.

    Cynthia was disappointed with John’s return to Yoko, saying he “needed a mommy”.

    The parallels between David and Harry have been mentioned as nauseum. I do think the parallels between John/Yoko and Harry/Meghan were stronger. Both lost their mothers to violent car accidents as teenagers. Both married non-white foreigners who were Mommy wives. Both saw the full effect of racism and misogyny in the UK. Both couples fled to large American cities.

    Of course there are differences.

    John Lennon worked his way up to fame by his talent and hard work. Harry was born famous and is rather mediocre.

    Yoko is far more talented than Meghan.

    John and Yoko was a meeting of two creative minds. Harry and Meghan not so much.

    At least, unlike David and Wallis, Harry and Meghan are not Nazi traitors.

  13. @Inverness
    HFS. I was just reading this old post of Muggles. Incredible. Of course, this other case didn't make national headlines, because reasons.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/foucaults-butterknife/#comment-5784712

    Replies: @Ebony Obelisk

    Found the racist

    It was a local matter. Why put the family’s through a media circus

    That says more about you than anything you coward. Your private parts must be comically small

    Those cops were acting white. Only white men committ violence or infect the peaceful souls of others. That’s just a fact. Non existent whites create hatred and make People of Colour commit violence

    The Memphis and Houston cases are white supremacy violence

    We are winning we are going to good guy accountable look at South Africa if you people can’t be decent human being your going to get the farm treatment

    • Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @Ebony Obelisk

    I already gave the "farm treatment" to your momma.

    Sincerely,
    superhonky

    , @tyrone
    @Ebony Obelisk


    Non existent whites create hatred and make People of Colour commit violence
     
    .......OH NO! ,ebony be on to us ,it dat white man gris gris......black cat bone and grave yard dirt.......you gonna need a live chicken this time boy.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @fish
    @Ebony Obelisk

    Oh Ebony’s…..

  14. Could be – was talking about this with some friends and we all were wondering at the lack of information on what allegedly precipitated the stop in the first place and why the cops were so keen on delivering a beating long after he could offer any resistance. Clearly some of the cops were very pissed off.

    Obviously that would dent the anti-black narrative, but it does support the idea that cops cannot be trusted.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Arclight

    Some of the most anti cop things I have heard have come from current and former police officers. Almost every one has some horror stories. One guy told me he stopped taking bribes because he had to give too big a cut to his sergeant and to the brass. He was left with a pittance and all the risk.

    I still remember when the “Dirty Thirty” scandal broke in NY, a former cop I knew dropped by my office to remind me that he had told me about this sort of thing before it was revealed.

    My friend’s complaints were that the NYPD had softened its criteria for cops. In the old days my friend had trouble getting onto the force because he had a desk appearance ticket for playing frisbee on the beach. Not long afterwards the NYPD started letting people with one misdemeanor conviction on the force. Then multiple misdemeanor convictions. Of course many of these were felonies plea bargained down to misdemeanors. So the NYPD has been letting in serial felons for a number of decades now.

    At some point gangs started infiltrating the NYPD. At some point entire units in the NYPD were gangs. The Dirty Thirty scandal was gang warfare between two rival drug gangs, one of which wore badges as part of the drug task force in the 30th Precinct.

    And the same $#!+ happened in the LAPD. The cops were the gang.

    Hey, I spent a few years in an Italian neighborhood and the locals seemed to have a slightly better opinion of the Mafia than the cops. I had a cop neighbor. He had some kind neighbors let me know the cop would overlook some issues with my car that could have gotten me a ticket as long as I never again parked in front of his home. He was kind enough to have the other neighbors warn me never to take his space again. I don’t know if a Mafia guy would have given me a second chance.

    Replies: @Arclight

  15. @Henry's Cat
    Aren't rumours by definition unconfirmed?

    I've been looking out for, but haven't seen, any media reference as to whether Nichols had a criminal record. If he didn't have one, I would still expect that to have been reported. Not that any criminal record would bear directly on the case, but it might pall the beatific light.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AceDeuce, @bomag

    I’ve been looking out for, but haven’t seen, any media reference as to whether Nichols had a criminal record. If he didn’t have one, I would still expect that to have been reported.

    Wow, you’re very naïve.

    Nigbos always talk endlessly about “truth” and being “real”, but there is no group more untruthful and sneaky and fake. There probably is much more to this, but I don’t know if we’ll ever be told what really happened.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @AceDeuce

    Guilty as charged, but here I was talking about the behavior of the media.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  16. The body cam video starts with the police throwing him out of his car. It’d be good to see what his offense was. Why were they so mad at him? Not that it excuses what they did but maybe it would explain it

    • Replies: @Adghjjhfddg
    @Mikeja

    We were told by The Good People that there was no legitimate reason for the traffic stop. That’s all you need to know.

  17. Yes, commenters, it would be relevant to know whether or not Tyre had a criminal record. But let’s not forget the question of whether or not Tyre had gone to his high-school prom. The jogger case significantly turned around when that prom photo surfaced of the jogger in a tux and bowtie. It sounds ridiculous, but I think if a prom photo of Tyre emerges, that will affect police-training protocols in the United States for years to come.

  18. As I mentioned, these cops were part of a Rampart/Training Day/Shield type unit. They are not doing revenue type traffic stops. They are doing stops (supposedly) as a pretext to find gangs/guns/drugs. They were looking for this guy. And the easiest reason is he was sleeping with/bothering a cop’s wife.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Hodag


    They were looking for this guy. And the easiest reason is he was sleeping with/bothering a cop’s wife.
     
    Another possibility is that he was driving a car that wasn't his own. But in that case, why did the cops on scene talk about reckless driving?

    Replies: @fish

    , @Abe
    @Hodag


    They were looking for this guy. And the easiest reason is he was sleeping with/bothering a cop’s wife.
     
    Yes, dummy, but marriage and the attendant male sexual possessiveness that goes along with it is a white thing. Tyre would still be alive if that cop had just been content to have several baby mammas he serially used and then discarded like so many burner cell phones. The cop's inexplicable and culturally alien behavior of actually having a wife can only be explained by the pressures of being black in a world made just for whites- i.e. white supremacy. And just when you thought the Narrative was going down to defeat it pulls it out in the closing seconds!
  19. “Is Tyre Nichols the Ron Goldman of Memphis”

    Did Nichols have a job waiting tables?

    Seriously though, the question becomes if Nichols had been in 100% compliance, does it seem likely he would have been beaten to death anyway? Even for black cops, this is hard to believe.

    “It’s especially important for the Establishment to not rush to conclude that We Must Cut Back on Enforcement of Traffic Laws in the Name of Tyre Nichols, ”

    Again, I would love to see traffic stop date from 2020 onward broken down by race. Because I’m here to tell ya, traffic stops against white motorists seems to have increased. At least around here.

  20. @Reg Cæsar
    Completely OT, but has anyone else considered that Prince Harry might be the reincarnation of John Lennon? The timing is right. Both went from rake to cuck milquetoast rather abruptly, smitten by some mad American chick-of-color. (At least Great-granduncle Ted stuck with his own race.)

    Yes, Yoko-- who turns 90 this month-- is way more American than Japanese. Whether or not she's a citizen.

    According to this page, evidently written by a cheap Bangalore knock-off of ChatGPT, Lennon was born in Canada and joined the RAF at age ten:



    https://www.boysetsfire.net/john-lennons-battle-for-a-green-card/


    The Difference Between Speaking and Thinking:
    The human brain could explain why AI programs are so good at writing grammatically superb nonsense.

    Replies: @Clark Kent, @AndrewR, @Mike Tre, @Thea, @Curle

    “Yes, Yoko– who turns 90 this month– is way more American than Japanese. ”

    LOL. No, she isn’t.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Mike Tre

    Just being a feminist makes her more American. What other country (away from the North Sea) is remotely as libby? Everywhere women are allowed to vote-- since Appenzell and Kuwait fell, that's everywhere but the Vatican-- shows the thumbprint of American influence.

    Yoko wasn't even in her teens yet when the US forced suffrage upon the prostrate Japanese. The voting age was set at 20 (the age she left Japan), while it was still 21 in America (except in Georgia).

    Compare Tokyo-born Yoko to Seattle-born Mrs Minoru Yamasaki who, after becoming his fourth wife (she was also his first) promised a reporter she would try harder to be a good Japanese wife this time. Mrs Y was way more Nipponese in attitude and worldview than the Divine Miss O.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anon

  21. @Hodag
    As I mentioned, these cops were part of a Rampart/Training Day/Shield type unit. They are not doing revenue type traffic stops. They are doing stops (supposedly) as a pretext to find gangs/guns/drugs. They were looking for this guy. And the easiest reason is he was sleeping with/bothering a cop's wife.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Abe

    They were looking for this guy. And the easiest reason is he was sleeping with/bothering a cop’s wife.

    Another possibility is that he was driving a car that wasn’t his own. But in that case, why did the cops on scene talk about reckless driving?

    • Replies: @fish
    @Henry's Cat

    But in that case, why did the cops on scene talk about reckless driving?



    For the same reason they like to scream “STOP RESISTING” when they have someone already subdued but still want to engage in a little extracurricular!

  22. @Hodag
    As I mentioned, these cops were part of a Rampart/Training Day/Shield type unit. They are not doing revenue type traffic stops. They are doing stops (supposedly) as a pretext to find gangs/guns/drugs. They were looking for this guy. And the easiest reason is he was sleeping with/bothering a cop's wife.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @Abe

    They were looking for this guy. And the easiest reason is he was sleeping with/bothering a cop’s wife.

    Yes, dummy, but marriage and the attendant male sexual possessiveness that goes along with it is a white thing. Tyre would still be alive if that cop had just been content to have several baby mammas he serially used and then discarded like so many burner cell phones. The cop’s inexplicable and culturally alien behavior of actually having a wife can only be explained by the pressures of being black in a world made just for whites- i.e. white supremacy. And just when you thought the Narrative was going down to defeat it pulls it out in the closing seconds!

  23. • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Heh. The company that very recently came out with an excellent "AI" ML voice replicator which I assume this is from, takes very little training and does a very good job, is furiously clamping down on it after it's been used to create all sorts of crimethink. Something tells me Trump will be an exception to most of their new rules and limitations and the general horror of our ruling trash about "deep fakes."

    , @Jack D
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Aside from the sick content, doesn't really sound like Trump. A good human impressionist (an occupation that seems to have fallen out of favor - Rich Little is 84 and not seen much, the guys on SNL mostly suck) could do a better job but you probably couldn't get a respectable impressionist to voice such disgusting slander even against Trump.

  24. Are you implying Goldman wasn’t just returning Mrs. Brown’s glasses? LA had straight male waiters?

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Midnights
    @Ralph L

    I believe the rumor is, Goldman was her coke dealer.

  25. Are you saying OJ killed Tyre??

    • LOL: Trinity
    • Replies: @tyrone
    @International Jew


    Are you saying OJ killed Tyre??
     
    .....No , I think he's saying it may have been a personal beef between one of the cops and Tyre ,the same thing was suggested in the Chauvin /Floyd case ,they both allegedly worked as bouncers at the same night club.
    , @kaganovitch
    @International Jew

    Can't wait to read "If I did it" volume 2.

    , @Truth
    @International Jew

    Well, Tyree wasn't a waiter doing movie extra work...

  26. Mainstream journalism has sunken low, indeed. Newsweek is now reporting a story based on Facebook rumors?

  27. Back in 2020, CBS News interviewed one David Pinney, who said he was a coworker at the nightclub where both George Floyd and Derek Chauvin provided part-time security. The Floyd family lawyer called for the charge of first-degree murder, “because we believe he knew who George Floyd was.” See https://www.cbsnews.com/news/derek-chauvin-nightclub-george-floyd-security-shifts-el-nuevo-rodeo-minneapolis/

  28. Perhaps The Suits at Big Media don’t like the current Soccer Mom Guilt/Pundits Looking Stupid quotient, and want the story moved over to their The Patriarchy! department. Then, if the Evil Men narrative has legs, we could spend the next year burning cities across the fruited plain.

  29. Is it possible that he’s dead because he kept resisting and, as one officer claimed, reached for someone’s gun? I haven’t scrutinized all the tape. In the parts I saw, he seemed to be claiming that he was complying while not complying.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @JimDandy


    as one officer claimed, reached for someone’s gun
     
    Every word out of a cop's mouth is usually a lie. You would be a fool to trust a cop to tell you what color the sky is.
  30. Given the socio-economic status of these cops, this scenario is entirely plausible. Stay tuned.

  31. @Henry's Cat
    Aren't rumours by definition unconfirmed?

    I've been looking out for, but haven't seen, any media reference as to whether Nichols had a criminal record. If he didn't have one, I would still expect that to have been reported. Not that any criminal record would bear directly on the case, but it might pall the beatific light.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AceDeuce, @bomag

    An issue is that he came of age in an era of efforts to reduce the Black footprint in the criminal justice system. So he could have well been a saint, but one still wonders, especially with his behavior that night.

  32. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/LandlordLinks/status/1621076456989245441

    Replies: @tyrone, @Jack D

    Bush’s accuser found dead.

    …… There are benefits to being a friend of Bill and Hillary .

  33. @International Jew
    Are you saying OJ killed Tyre??

    Replies: @tyrone, @kaganovitch, @Truth

    Are you saying OJ killed Tyre??

    …..No , I think he’s saying it may have been a personal beef between one of the cops and Tyre ,the same thing was suggested in the Chauvin /Floyd case ,they both allegedly worked as bouncers at the same night club.

  34. “Get Your Saints from the Sharpton You Trust!”
    But Narrative Care is a must.
    For Inflate-a-Saint care:
    Pumping too much hot air
    May cause rubber Tyre to go bust.

    • Thanks: The Anti-Gnostic, Cato
    • LOL: Paul Jolliffe
  35. Big cats are dangerous but a little pussy won’t hurt anyone? Not always.

    Cue: Who’s Making Love To Your Old Lady (While You Were Out Making Love) by Johnnie Taylor

  36. Tempting as it is to print “an unconfirmed rumor,” especially one so juicy in its potential to rock the “narrative,” it is not a good thing to do; it is not responsible, and like making predictions it is one of the ways a columnist can make himself look silly. (Still, wouldn’t it be … interesting if it’s so!)

  37. Still wouldn’t explain why EIGHT people have been fired for causing Nichols’ death. What? Seven people all agreeing to “help a brudda out” by killing someone?

  38. Tyre’s sister, called Nineveh Nichols,
    In girlhood, loved riding bicycles;
    And, just for your info,
    It made her a nympho
    With abnormal fondness for pickles.

    • Replies: @G. Poulin
    @the one they call Desanex

    I think Arlo Guthrie was the last person to rhyme "pickle" with "cycle"

  39. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    You remind me of the meme I saw which had Yoko bragging about breaking up the Beatles, to which Meghan responds "hold my Rosé"

    Harry, like Charles III and the Duke of Windsor, suffers from the need for a mommy wife. Unfortunately he picked a much worse wife than Charles and David did.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    Could be.

    As for Lennon, he called Yoko “Mother”.

    I read some stuff Cynthia Lennon wrote about John Lennon and May Pang. Actually, May and Cynthia met when John was with May, and were close friends between the time of John’s death and Cynthia’s death. They even went together to a public memorial for John held by his fans in Central Park, and nobody recognized them.

    Cynthia was disappointed with John’s return to Yoko, saying he “needed a mommy”.

    The parallels between David and Harry have been mentioned as nauseum. I do think the parallels between John/Yoko and Harry/Meghan were stronger. Both lost their mothers to violent car accidents as teenagers. Both married non-white foreigners who were Mommy wives. Both saw the full effect of racism and misogyny in the UK. Both couples fled to large American cities.

    Of course there are differences.

    John Lennon worked his way up to fame by his talent and hard work. Harry was born famous and is rather mediocre.

    Yoko is far more talented than Meghan.

    John and Yoko was a meeting of two creative minds. Harry and Meghan not so much.

    At least, unlike David and Wallis, Harry and Meghan are not Nazi traitors.

  40. @Reg Cæsar
    Completely OT, but has anyone else considered that Prince Harry might be the reincarnation of John Lennon? The timing is right. Both went from rake to cuck milquetoast rather abruptly, smitten by some mad American chick-of-color. (At least Great-granduncle Ted stuck with his own race.)

    Yes, Yoko-- who turns 90 this month-- is way more American than Japanese. Whether or not she's a citizen.

    According to this page, evidently written by a cheap Bangalore knock-off of ChatGPT, Lennon was born in Canada and joined the RAF at age ten:



    https://www.boysetsfire.net/john-lennons-battle-for-a-green-card/


    The Difference Between Speaking and Thinking:
    The human brain could explain why AI programs are so good at writing grammatically superb nonsense.

    Replies: @Clark Kent, @AndrewR, @Mike Tre, @Thea, @Curle

    Imagine is a horrible song . If the philosophy is followed to its logical conclusion we get a nihilistic, self-interested culture where shallow, ephemeral pursuits are elevated above morality and heroism. The most trivial aspects a a person’s character must be public celebrity and legitimate faults never mentioned( obese women are beautiful!)

    In a nutshell, Yoko Ono can be blamed for our course, crass anti-white culture. 🙂

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Thea


    Was it a millionaire who said "Imagine no possessions"?
    A poor little schoolboy who said "We don't need no lessons"?
     
    "The Other Side of Summer" - Elvis Costello
    , @Hibernian
    @Thea


    If the philosophy is followed to its logical conclusion we get a nihilistic, self-interested culture where shallow, ephemeral pursuits are elevated above morality and heroism.
     
    It has been followed. On steroids.
  41. @Ebony Obelisk
    @Inverness

    Found the racist

    It was a local matter. Why put the family’s through a media circus

    That says more about you than anything you coward. Your private parts must be comically small

    Those cops were acting white. Only white men committ violence or infect the peaceful souls of others. That’s just a fact. Non existent whites create hatred and make People of Colour commit violence

    The Memphis and Houston cases are white supremacy violence

    We are winning we are going to good guy accountable look at South Africa if you people can’t be decent human being your going to get the farm treatment

    Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @tyrone, @fish

    I already gave the “farm treatment” to your momma.

    Sincerely,
    superhonky

  42. @Ebony Obelisk
    @Inverness

    Found the racist

    It was a local matter. Why put the family’s through a media circus

    That says more about you than anything you coward. Your private parts must be comically small

    Those cops were acting white. Only white men committ violence or infect the peaceful souls of others. That’s just a fact. Non existent whites create hatred and make People of Colour commit violence

    The Memphis and Houston cases are white supremacy violence

    We are winning we are going to good guy accountable look at South Africa if you people can’t be decent human being your going to get the farm treatment

    Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @tyrone, @fish

    Non existent whites create hatred and make People of Colour commit violence

    …….OH NO! ,ebony be on to us ,it dat white man gris gris……black cat bone and grave yard dirt…….you gonna need a live chicken this time boy.

    • LOL: fish
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @tyrone

    Those of us (like myself) who are connoisseurs of TD's extensive and magisterial oeuvre must perforce rate that particular quote highly indeed. The "non-existent" thing can only refer to ghosts, and I think fish (another connoisseur—the best) will back me up on this. I’m sure I need hardly remind present company anything about negroes and ghosts.

  43. Yoko is far more talented than Meghan.

    …Real artistic genius.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Truth


    Yoko is far more talented than Meghan.
     
    .......so is a ham sandwich. ,big whoop.....

    …Real artistic genius.
     
    . What ,Lennon and Berry OK,........the cat in heat I can do without , hint:nobody likes Yoko
    , @Paleo Liberal
    @Truth

    I had a feeling someone would bring that up

    Yoko Ono was highly regarded in the avant-garde art scene, and was one of the creators of “performance art”. She was also a fairly accomplished musician. Ironically, her artist friends initially thought she was degrading herself by her involvement with a pop singer.

    By the time John died Yoko was starting to write some passable songs. Her songs on “Double Fantasy “ showed a better incorporation of modern popular music than John’s songs. John’s songs were much better, IMO.

    In the early 2000s and 2010s, Yoko was extremely popular on the dance music circuit. She recorded several songs which hit #1 on the dance charts. At one point she was being wheeled out to sing to sold out audiences, singing the entire set from her wheelchair.

    As a singer, she ranged from awful to almost decent. Being married to one of the greatest singer/ songwriters of that era didn’t make her music seem that great in comparison.

    Compare her to Meghan Markle, who was a mediocre professional actress. Certainly not Grace Kelly. I am not calling MM talentless. She has some acting talent; certainly more than the average community theater actress. But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.

    That doesn’t mean she didn’t do some gawdawful stuff and it doesn’t mean you have to like any of her stuff. Personally, I can think of at least one decent song she did on Double Fantasy. I just wish the song had a better singer.

    Replies: @Truth, @Reg Cæsar

    , @ben tillman
    @Truth

    I guess she deserves credit for inspiring the B-52's song Rock Lobster. That's as far as I'll go.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HammerJack

  44. ‘Don’t give up on diversifying the police’

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/02/tyre-nichols-police-diversity-helps/

    The brutal killing of Tyre Nichols, a young Black man, by five Black police officers in Memphis has reignited debates over whether diversity in police agencies can help address racial disparities in police brutality.

    A simple glance at videos online of police of all stripes abusing the public dispels this notion.

    Recent advances in the study of race and policing indicate that while diversity in law enforcement is far from a panacea, it can substantially help reduce use of force by police on average — and abandoning diversity-focused reforms would be shortsighted.

    What advances? Adding a few more questions to the studies? Also, saying ‘diversity’ reduces police brutality is walking the fine line of saying some ethnicities are better than others for certain lines of work.

    Mr. Nichols death was horrific. No one deserves to be beaten in that manner over a traffic stop. It is quite likely that there is much more to this story.

  45. Apparently, Newsweek’s source is an albino named Sir Maejor . Sir Maejor says that he is a ” Civil & Human Rights Activist and Victim Spokesperson. Actor from American Horror Story Coven Season 3.”

    When you look this up, Sir Maejor is listed in IMDB as “Albino Guard (uncredited)”. He also has bit parts (I assume not speaking roles) as other albinos now and then.

    If you can’t trust Sir Maejor, then who can you trust?

    Newsweek reached a low point when it was sold to some sort of Korean Evangelical Christian cult. The CEO was indicted on some sort of financial fraud. However, the current CEO, Dev Pragad, seems to have turned things around somewhat. Legacy brand names like Newsweek still have some value. They claim current revenues of $60 million/yr. which is not chopped liver even if it is a mere fraction of the glory days when they had revenues of $250 million/yr. At one point they were losing $30 million/yr and now Pragad claims that they are profitable. The staff seems to be mostly young journalism grads whom I assume are not being paid much.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Jack D

    It publishes the occasional conservative opinion piece from Republicans who are not surrender-cons, so its brand -- in my view -- has made a bit of a rebound.

  46. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/LandlordLinks/status/1621076456989245441

    Replies: @tyrone, @Jack D

    Breaking news from 2003!

    Either this (African-American) woman’s story is true – she was brutally raped and kidnapped by not only George Bush but also by a slew of FBI agents and then she was murdered to cover it up. Or else she was nuts and killed herself. I’m voting for the latter.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    I wouldn't put anything past the Bush family. Just dig up the stuff they've been up to since, well the mid to late 1800's. They put don Corleone to shame.

  47. @Arclight
    Could be - was talking about this with some friends and we all were wondering at the lack of information on what allegedly precipitated the stop in the first place and why the cops were so keen on delivering a beating long after he could offer any resistance. Clearly some of the cops were very pissed off.

    Obviously that would dent the anti-black narrative, but it does support the idea that cops cannot be trusted.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    Some of the most anti cop things I have heard have come from current and former police officers. Almost every one has some horror stories. One guy told me he stopped taking bribes because he had to give too big a cut to his sergeant and to the brass. He was left with a pittance and all the risk.

    I still remember when the “Dirty Thirty” scandal broke in NY, a former cop I knew dropped by my office to remind me that he had told me about this sort of thing before it was revealed.

    My friend’s complaints were that the NYPD had softened its criteria for cops. In the old days my friend had trouble getting onto the force because he had a desk appearance ticket for playing frisbee on the beach. Not long afterwards the NYPD started letting people with one misdemeanor conviction on the force. Then multiple misdemeanor convictions. Of course many of these were felonies plea bargained down to misdemeanors. So the NYPD has been letting in serial felons for a number of decades now.

    At some point gangs started infiltrating the NYPD. At some point entire units in the NYPD were gangs. The Dirty Thirty scandal was gang warfare between two rival drug gangs, one of which wore badges as part of the drug task force in the 30th Precinct.

    And the same $#!+ happened in the LAPD. The cops were the gang.

    Hey, I spent a few years in an Italian neighborhood and the locals seemed to have a slightly better opinion of the Mafia than the cops. I had a cop neighbor. He had some kind neighbors let me know the cop would overlook some issues with my car that could have gotten me a ticket as long as I never again parked in front of his home. He was kind enough to have the other neighbors warn me never to take his space again. I don’t know if a Mafia guy would have given me a second chance.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Paleo Liberal

    DC had the same problem - at one point something like 20% of the force had a criminal background, and there were clearly elements that collaborated with the local drug dealers - many of my black neighbors were afraid to call the cops because they would get ratted out and then would have to face the wrath of well-armed young thugs who didn't respect anyone.

    Even in less obviously corrupt cities, policing does attract a certain type of meathead that enjoys throwing what little authority they have around and certainly escalates the temperature of routine interactions more than is necessary. It's a tough job and dealing with a lot of pond scum on a daily basis will wear on you, I am sure - but I do agree with the general premise that cops need to be held accountable and those that perform poorly under duress need to be let go.

  48. @Clark Kent
    @Reg Cæsar

    I made the observation in comments on a story here last week. Great minds think alike? 😁

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I made the observation in comments on a story here last week.

    You left out the used-to-be-a-rake part, though. Their post hoc feminism may just be guilt at work. The opposite trajectory of Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, and even Hugh Hefner, who used “women’s lib” as a tool to get laid.

    Though Clinton chose a “mommy wife” as well, that was for management purposes. The man feels no guilt for anything.

  49. @Jack D
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Breaking news from 2003!

    Either this (African-American) woman's story is true - she was brutally raped and kidnapped by not only George Bush but also by a slew of FBI agents and then she was murdered to cover it up. Or else she was nuts and killed herself. I'm voting for the latter.

    Replies: @BB753

    I wouldn’t put anything past the Bush family. Just dig up the stuff they’ve been up to since, well the mid to late 1800’s. They put don Corleone to shame.

    • Agree: Not Raul
  50. All right – someone has to do it.

    What did Ron Goldman say to Nicole Simpson when they got to Heaven?
    “Here’s your fu#&ing sunglasses”.

  51. You’ll never sell a car to a Memphis cop. They’re all tyre-kickers

    • LOL: Hibernian
  52. Interesting possibility.

    A personal motive could explain what otherwise seems very baffling behavior.

    Most personal murders (not job related) by law enforcement officers are motivated by garden variety jealousy problems, ex-wives, girlfriends, etc.

    That a small group would also take on this motive is strange but would explain things.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Muggles

    Yes, but, body cams!

    I mean who commits a fatal beat-down to settle a personal grievance while the little-red-light is on?

    Replies: @Muggles

  53. @International Jew
    Are you saying OJ killed Tyre??

    Replies: @tyrone, @kaganovitch, @Truth

    Can’t wait to read “If I did it” volume 2.

  54. OT but always relevant to istevie:

    Bill “9 visits to Epstein Island” Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don’t work. He also says the people that matter are the old people. If Boomers want to know why they get a lot of heat for the stereotypes associated with their generation, well look no further.

    Young people matter, Billy Boy (that goes for Steve “thank god the golf courses are open while schools remain closed” Sailer, That Would be Trolling, HA, and the rest of the Jolly Jack D jew brigade injection proponents around here). Not the old people.

    https://vidmax.com/video/217658-after-spending-billions-on-mrna-technology-and-shilling-for-the-clot-shots-bill-gates-admits-they-don-t-even-work

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Mike Tre

    If you listen to what he says, he is saying we need BETTER vaccines, not no vaccines.

    The Covid vaccine was brought to market it record time (it could have been even faster but they had to stall it in order to make sure that Trump was not re-elected) at a time when the Covid virus and its potential for mutation was not well understood. Given those limitations, it was a pretty good effort in that it reduces serious illness, hospitalization and death from (the original variant of) Covid by around 90% in the short term. (BTW, they are going to stop selling the original vaccine and sell only the "bivalent" vaccine from now on, because the original variant is not really around anymore.)

    However, as Gates says, it does not completely block infection. It's tuned to one or two specific variants of the virus so that when a new variant comes around it is less effective. And the effectiveness appears to wear off quickly. A better vaccine would do all three of those things and they are going to keep working on it.

    This doesn't mean that the current vaccine is worthless, just less than perfect. I'm not going to stop driving because my car doesn't get 99 mpg and go from 0-60 in 1 second. Someone who says that he is working on a car like that is not saying that "cars don't work", just that they could be improved. You are grossly distorting what Gates is saying.

    , @Anon
    @Mike Tre

    "Bill “9 visits to Epstein Island” Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don’t work."

    Clicked through the link and no, that's not what he said. I'm sure you'll keep calling vaccination "injection" in the hope of scaring the rubes with a big bad word.

    As to the Epstein island bit, admit it, youre just jealous, right?

    Replies: @Mark G., @Mike Tre

    , @Anonymous
    @Mike Tre

    The only people who care about Epstein's island are screeching women and sexless white knights. Normal people couldn't care less.


    Bill “9 visits to Epstein Island” Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don’t work. He also says the people that matter are the old people. If Boomers want to know why they get a lot of heat for the stereotypes associated with their generation, well look no further.
     
    Did a boomer molest you as a child or something? If so, you have my sympathy. If not, you should get the rope for your antivaxxer idiocy. In Minecraft, of course.

    that goes for Steve “thank god the golf courses are open while schools remain closed” Sailer
     
    The lockdown is over, the schools are open. This grievance mongering is getting into full "never forget the six gorillion" territory.
  55. @International Jew
    Are you saying OJ killed Tyre??

    Replies: @tyrone, @kaganovitch, @Truth

    Well, Tyree wasn’t a waiter doing movie extra work…

  56. Stephen;

    This should be Game Over for the NFL, but naaaah, it won’t be, men love their Soap Operas:

    https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhsQ39CmgGQE74St0C/former-nfl-running-back-arian-foster-claims-the-nfl-is-literally-rigged

  57. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/Nightmarechud/status/1620084985947648001

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Jack D

    Heh. The company that very recently came out with an excellent “AI” ML voice replicator which I assume this is from, takes very little training and does a very good job, is furiously clamping down on it after it’s been used to create all sorts of crimethink. Something tells me Trump will be an exception to most of their new rules and limitations and the general horror of our ruling trash about “deep fakes.”

  58. @Ebony Obelisk
    @Inverness

    Found the racist

    It was a local matter. Why put the family’s through a media circus

    That says more about you than anything you coward. Your private parts must be comically small

    Those cops were acting white. Only white men committ violence or infect the peaceful souls of others. That’s just a fact. Non existent whites create hatred and make People of Colour commit violence

    The Memphis and Houston cases are white supremacy violence

    We are winning we are going to good guy accountable look at South Africa if you people can’t be decent human being your going to get the farm treatment

    Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @tyrone, @fish

    Oh Ebony’s…..

  59. @Henry's Cat
    @Hodag


    They were looking for this guy. And the easiest reason is he was sleeping with/bothering a cop’s wife.
     
    Another possibility is that he was driving a car that wasn't his own. But in that case, why did the cops on scene talk about reckless driving?

    Replies: @fish

    But in that case, why did the cops on scene talk about reckless driving?

    For the same reason they like to scream “STOP RESISTING” when they have someone already subdued but still want to engage in a little extracurricular!

  60. @Mike Tre
    OT but always relevant to istevie:

    Bill "9 visits to Epstein Island" Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don't work. He also says the people that matter are the old people. If Boomers want to know why they get a lot of heat for the stereotypes associated with their generation, well look no further.

    Young people matter, Billy Boy (that goes for Steve "thank god the golf courses are open while schools remain closed" Sailer, That Would be Trolling, HA, and the rest of the Jolly Jack D jew brigade injection proponents around here). Not the old people.

    https://vidmax.com/video/217658-after-spending-billions-on-mrna-technology-and-shilling-for-the-clot-shots-bill-gates-admits-they-don-t-even-work

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anon, @Anonymous

    If you listen to what he says, he is saying we need BETTER vaccines, not no vaccines.

    The Covid vaccine was brought to market it record time (it could have been even faster but they had to stall it in order to make sure that Trump was not re-elected) at a time when the Covid virus and its potential for mutation was not well understood. Given those limitations, it was a pretty good effort in that it reduces serious illness, hospitalization and death from (the original variant of) Covid by around 90% in the short term. (BTW, they are going to stop selling the original vaccine and sell only the “bivalent” vaccine from now on, because the original variant is not really around anymore.)

    However, as Gates says, it does not completely block infection. It’s tuned to one or two specific variants of the virus so that when a new variant comes around it is less effective. And the effectiveness appears to wear off quickly. A better vaccine would do all three of those things and they are going to keep working on it.

    This doesn’t mean that the current vaccine is worthless, just less than perfect. I’m not going to stop driving because my car doesn’t get 99 mpg and go from 0-60 in 1 second. Someone who says that he is working on a car like that is not saying that “cars don’t work”, just that they could be improved. You are grossly distorting what Gates is saying.

  61. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/Nightmarechud/status/1620084985947648001

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Jack D

    Aside from the sick content, doesn’t really sound like Trump. A good human impressionist (an occupation that seems to have fallen out of favor – Rich Little is 84 and not seen much, the guys on SNL mostly suck) could do a better job but you probably couldn’t get a respectable impressionist to voice such disgusting slander even against Trump.

  62. “Let me give you some good advice.”

    • Agree: ben tillman
  63. @Reg Cæsar
    Completely OT, but has anyone else considered that Prince Harry might be the reincarnation of John Lennon? The timing is right. Both went from rake to cuck milquetoast rather abruptly, smitten by some mad American chick-of-color. (At least Great-granduncle Ted stuck with his own race.)

    Yes, Yoko-- who turns 90 this month-- is way more American than Japanese. Whether or not she's a citizen.

    According to this page, evidently written by a cheap Bangalore knock-off of ChatGPT, Lennon was born in Canada and joined the RAF at age ten:



    https://www.boysetsfire.net/john-lennons-battle-for-a-green-card/


    The Difference Between Speaking and Thinking:
    The human brain could explain why AI programs are so good at writing grammatically superb nonsense.

    Replies: @Clark Kent, @AndrewR, @Mike Tre, @Thea, @Curle

    Yoko’s social stand was Japanese enough. How many here have a great grandfather who was a financier? Lennon’s dad was mostly itinerant.

    Lennon had women throw themselves at him when the Beatles got big but I didn’t get the impression he was a ladies’ man before that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuda_Zenjir%C5%8D

  64. This story has a number of facets. Apparently 3 of the cops were members of Omega Psi Phi fraternity. Perhaps that explains why they acted in concert, like pack animals. Increasingly, I’m thinking the Ron Goldman angle is correct. The poor guy was probably messing around with the wife/girlfriend of one of these guys.

    https://news.yahoo.com/omega-psi-phi-fraternity-revokes-193850761.html

  65. @AceDeuce
    @Henry's Cat


    I’ve been looking out for, but haven’t seen, any media reference as to whether Nichols had a criminal record. If he didn’t have one, I would still expect that to have been reported.
     
    Wow, you're very naïve.

    Nigbos always talk endlessly about "truth" and being "real", but there is no group more untruthful and sneaky and fake. There probably is much more to this, but I don't know if we'll ever be told what really happened.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    Guilty as charged, but here I was talking about the behavior of the media.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Henry's Cat


    Guilty as charged, but here I was talking about the behavior of the media.
     
    So was I. The media doesn't want to spoil the story with any unpleasant truths.

    Sorry about the "naïve crack". I'm sure you're not--but the media is the last place to look for truth, especially when it comes to racial myths.
  66. @Thea
    @Reg Cæsar

    Imagine is a horrible song . If the philosophy is followed to its logical conclusion we get a nihilistic, self-interested culture where shallow, ephemeral pursuits are elevated above morality and heroism. The most trivial aspects a a person’s character must be public celebrity and legitimate faults never mentioned( obese women are beautiful!)

    In a nutshell, Yoko Ono can be blamed for our course, crass anti-white culture. :)

    Replies: @njguy73, @Hibernian

    Was it a millionaire who said “Imagine no possessions”?
    A poor little schoolboy who said “We don’t need no lessons”?

    “The Other Side of Summer” – Elvis Costello

    • Thanks: Thea
  67. @Truth

    Yoko is far more talented than Meghan.
     
    ...Real artistic genius.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F5hv8hgLCE

    Replies: @tyrone, @Paleo Liberal, @ben tillman

    Yoko is far more talented than Meghan.

    …….so is a ham sandwich. ,big whoop…..

    …Real artistic genius.

    . What ,Lennon and Berry OK,……..the cat in heat I can do without , hint:nobody likes Yoko

  68. @Muggles
    Interesting possibility.

    A personal motive could explain what otherwise seems very baffling behavior.

    Most personal murders (not job related) by law enforcement officers are motivated by garden variety jealousy problems, ex-wives, girlfriends, etc.

    That a small group would also take on this motive is strange but would explain things.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    Yes, but, body cams!

    I mean who commits a fatal beat-down to settle a personal grievance while the little-red-light is on?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Inquiring Mind


    I mean who commits a fatal beat-down to settle a personal grievance while the little-red-light is on?
     
    And who, for any other reason?
  69. @JimDandy
    Is it possible that he's dead because he kept resisting and, as one officer claimed, reached for someone's gun? I haven't scrutinized all the tape. In the parts I saw, he seemed to be claiming that he was complying while not complying.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    as one officer claimed, reached for someone’s gun

    Every word out of a cop’s mouth is usually a lie. You would be a fool to trust a cop to tell you what color the sky is.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
  70. My prediction- all of the cops who beat on him until he was dead get acquitted or hung jury on the state charges. The only guy convicted of murder will be some fat ass white cop who wasn’t on the scene after Nichols ran away from the initial stop.

    • Replies: @Adghjjhfddg
    @Yancey Ward

    I think they wanted to do that with freddie gray, but the case ludicrously fell apart before they got to the white guys

  71. As for the video itself- I watched most of it twice now. While it is definitely murder at the end, Nichols was his own worst enemy, in my opinion, at the point of the initial stop. He seemed to not be able to just go limp right from the start and stop running his mouth. I think he was humiliated by being dragged from the car, and stupidly and actively did what he could to make the officers work much harder than necessary to cuff and secure him- it was the one way he thought he could fight back and reclaim some dignity. Being outnumbered 5 to 1 by cops armed with guns, tasers, spray and truncheons requires one to swallow their pride and put up zero resistance and and give zero lip.

    • Agree: rebel yell
    • Replies: @Pastit
    @Yancey Ward

    He wasn't very bright. He caused his own demise as all these cases do.

  72. Out of thread comment…

    Steve has often asked which group gets the most pokemon privilege points. Finally, studying AI has told us…
    https://davidrozado.substack.com/p/openaicms

    Wealthy people get the fewest, disabled people get the most. Thanks science.

    • Replies: @New Dealer
    @Bobbocciooo

    The pokemon privilege point ladder is good research, detailed, and fun.

    It measures whether negative comments about various groups are moderated as "hateful" and to be censored. The most nauseating thing about it is that Native Americans are right down there with whites and straight people with respect to acceptability of negative comments about them. Stolen land graffiti for them, but not bread.

    To insult people for class, education, or political alignment is rarely marked as hateful, probably because we live in a classless society, you bloodsucking, babykilling oligarchs.

  73. @Redneck farmer
    If true, this is going to make "hiring equity" even more difficult for MPD.

    Replies: @Barnard

    At what point do the large employers in the area like Fed Ex start putting pressure on the state of Tennessee to step in and take over administration of the Memphis PD just to keep the area safe for their operations?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Barnard

    A better way would be to find another place for Fed Ex Hub/HQ

    Replies: @HammerJack

  74. @Truth

    Yoko is far more talented than Meghan.
     
    ...Real artistic genius.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F5hv8hgLCE

    Replies: @tyrone, @Paleo Liberal, @ben tillman

    I had a feeling someone would bring that up

    Yoko Ono was highly regarded in the avant-garde art scene, and was one of the creators of “performance art”. She was also a fairly accomplished musician. Ironically, her artist friends initially thought she was degrading herself by her involvement with a pop singer.

    By the time John died Yoko was starting to write some passable songs. Her songs on “Double Fantasy “ showed a better incorporation of modern popular music than John’s songs. John’s songs were much better, IMO.

    In the early 2000s and 2010s, Yoko was extremely popular on the dance music circuit. She recorded several songs which hit #1 on the dance charts. At one point she was being wheeled out to sing to sold out audiences, singing the entire set from her wheelchair.

    As a singer, she ranged from awful to almost decent. Being married to one of the greatest singer/ songwriters of that era didn’t make her music seem that great in comparison.

    Compare her to Meghan Markle, who was a mediocre professional actress. Certainly not Grace Kelly. I am not calling MM talentless. She has some acting talent; certainly more than the average community theater actress. But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.

    That doesn’t mean she didn’t do some gawdawful stuff and it doesn’t mean you have to like any of her stuff. Personally, I can think of at least one decent song she did on Double Fantasy. I just wish the song had a better singer.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @Truth
    @Paleo Liberal


    But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.
     
    Old Sport, this is artistic talent that passes the test of time. Extremely white-friendly too...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYn993hria0

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Paleo Liberal


    But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.
     
    What she lacked wasn't talent, but taste. Still, she and Linda were pretty good wives, whatever their skills, or lack thereof, in the studio.

    Mea culpa, I didn't mean to hijack the thread!

    Replies: @Curle

  75. @the one they call Desanex
    Tyre’s sister, called Nineveh Nichols,
    In girlhood, loved riding bicycles;
    And, just for your info,
    It made her a nympho
    With abnormal fondness for pickles.
    https://www.listchallenges.com/f/items/f575b1d8-a329-44e3-b0e1-788a1edf6187.jpg

    Replies: @G. Poulin

    I think Arlo Guthrie was the last person to rhyme “pickle” with “cycle”

    • LOL: ScarletNumber
  76. @Truth

    Yoko is far more talented than Meghan.
     
    ...Real artistic genius.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F5hv8hgLCE

    Replies: @tyrone, @Paleo Liberal, @ben tillman

    I guess she deserves credit for inspiring the B-52’s song Rock Lobster. That’s as far as I’ll go.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @ben tillman

    Recently on Red Ice, Henrik and Lara disapproved of the B-52s, which amused me deeply, because, leaving aside the easy Emma Goldman reference, they happen to reside in a certain American state known for the abundance, beauty, and purity of its potatoes ...

    , @HammerJack
    @ben tillman

    Yoko was merely testifying against toxic masculinity! And the best cure for one toxin is another, apparently.

  77. @Paleo Liberal
    @Truth

    I had a feeling someone would bring that up

    Yoko Ono was highly regarded in the avant-garde art scene, and was one of the creators of “performance art”. She was also a fairly accomplished musician. Ironically, her artist friends initially thought she was degrading herself by her involvement with a pop singer.

    By the time John died Yoko was starting to write some passable songs. Her songs on “Double Fantasy “ showed a better incorporation of modern popular music than John’s songs. John’s songs were much better, IMO.

    In the early 2000s and 2010s, Yoko was extremely popular on the dance music circuit. She recorded several songs which hit #1 on the dance charts. At one point she was being wheeled out to sing to sold out audiences, singing the entire set from her wheelchair.

    As a singer, she ranged from awful to almost decent. Being married to one of the greatest singer/ songwriters of that era didn’t make her music seem that great in comparison.

    Compare her to Meghan Markle, who was a mediocre professional actress. Certainly not Grace Kelly. I am not calling MM talentless. She has some acting talent; certainly more than the average community theater actress. But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.

    That doesn’t mean she didn’t do some gawdawful stuff and it doesn’t mean you have to like any of her stuff. Personally, I can think of at least one decent song she did on Double Fantasy. I just wish the song had a better singer.

    Replies: @Truth, @Reg Cæsar

    But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.

    Old Sport, this is artistic talent that passes the test of time. Extremely white-friendly too…

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Truth

    Glad I stayed with that stupid commercial 'til the end, so I could witness the proud brotha join the white chicks making fun of the stupid white man!

    IOW, commercials are exactly the same as 20 years ago, when I quit watching television. Thanks!

    Replies: @Truth

  78. @Henry's Cat
    @AceDeuce

    Guilty as charged, but here I was talking about the behavior of the media.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Guilty as charged, but here I was talking about the behavior of the media.

    So was I. The media doesn’t want to spoil the story with any unpleasant truths.

    Sorry about the “naïve crack”. I’m sure you’re not–but the media is the last place to look for truth, especially when it comes to racial myths.

  79. @Mike Tre
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Yes, Yoko– who turns 90 this month– is way more American than Japanese. "

    LOL. No, she isn't.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Just being a feminist makes her more American. What other country (away from the North Sea) is remotely as libby? Everywhere women are allowed to vote– since Appenzell and Kuwait fell, that’s everywhere but the Vatican– shows the thumbprint of American influence.

    Yoko wasn’t even in her teens yet when the US forced suffrage upon the prostrate Japanese. The voting age was set at 20 (the age she left Japan), while it was still 21 in America (except in Georgia).

    Compare Tokyo-born Yoko to Seattle-born Mrs Minoru Yamasaki who, after becoming his fourth wife (she was also his first) promised a reporter she would try harder to be a good Japanese wife this time. Mrs Y was way more Nipponese in attitude and worldview than the Divine Miss O.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Reg Cæsar

    In Embracing Defeat, John Dower describes how the feminization of postwar Japan was literally Jewish revenge, from the daughter of music instructors, who had been arrested during the war out of Japanese sympathy with Germany. The Americans were already interested in altering Japanese culture to prevent a re-assertion of militarism and this girl was invited into the discussions.

    , @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    Japannis more leftist and feminist than the USA. Southern and Eastern Europe is also more feminist and leftist than Northwestern Europe.

    John Lennon wasn't a "mquetoast"; Asian women just don't need beating

  80. @Paleo Liberal
    @Truth

    I had a feeling someone would bring that up

    Yoko Ono was highly regarded in the avant-garde art scene, and was one of the creators of “performance art”. She was also a fairly accomplished musician. Ironically, her artist friends initially thought she was degrading herself by her involvement with a pop singer.

    By the time John died Yoko was starting to write some passable songs. Her songs on “Double Fantasy “ showed a better incorporation of modern popular music than John’s songs. John’s songs were much better, IMO.

    In the early 2000s and 2010s, Yoko was extremely popular on the dance music circuit. She recorded several songs which hit #1 on the dance charts. At one point she was being wheeled out to sing to sold out audiences, singing the entire set from her wheelchair.

    As a singer, she ranged from awful to almost decent. Being married to one of the greatest singer/ songwriters of that era didn’t make her music seem that great in comparison.

    Compare her to Meghan Markle, who was a mediocre professional actress. Certainly not Grace Kelly. I am not calling MM talentless. She has some acting talent; certainly more than the average community theater actress. But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.

    That doesn’t mean she didn’t do some gawdawful stuff and it doesn’t mean you have to like any of her stuff. Personally, I can think of at least one decent song she did on Double Fantasy. I just wish the song had a better singer.

    Replies: @Truth, @Reg Cæsar

    But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.

    What she lacked wasn’t talent, but taste. Still, she and Linda were pretty good wives, whatever their skills, or lack thereof, in the studio.

    Mea culpa, I didn’t mean to hijack the thread!

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    Highjack or not, you are correct on both points. I’m not convinced Yoko contributed much to the Beatle’s breakup and she definitely contributed a lot to domesticating John. I’d venture her business acumen, investing in cattle in the ‘70s, was far above his.

  81. @Jack D
    Apparently, Newsweek's source is an albino named Sir Maejor . Sir Maejor says that he is a " Civil & Human Rights Activist and Victim Spokesperson. Actor from American Horror Story Coven Season 3."

    When you look this up, Sir Maejor is listed in IMDB as "Albino Guard (uncredited)". He also has bit parts (I assume not speaking roles) as other albinos now and then.

    If you can't trust Sir Maejor, then who can you trust?

    Newsweek reached a low point when it was sold to some sort of Korean Evangelical Christian cult. The CEO was indicted on some sort of financial fraud. However, the current CEO, Dev Pragad, seems to have turned things around somewhat. Legacy brand names like Newsweek still have some value. They claim current revenues of $60 million/yr. which is not chopped liver even if it is a mere fraction of the glory days when they had revenues of $250 million/yr. At one point they were losing $30 million/yr and now Pragad claims that they are profitable. The staff seems to be mostly young journalism grads whom I assume are not being paid much.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    It publishes the occasional conservative opinion piece from Republicans who are not surrender-cons, so its brand — in my view — has made a bit of a rebound.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  82. Anon[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    OT but always relevant to istevie:

    Bill "9 visits to Epstein Island" Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don't work. He also says the people that matter are the old people. If Boomers want to know why they get a lot of heat for the stereotypes associated with their generation, well look no further.

    Young people matter, Billy Boy (that goes for Steve "thank god the golf courses are open while schools remain closed" Sailer, That Would be Trolling, HA, and the rest of the Jolly Jack D jew brigade injection proponents around here). Not the old people.

    https://vidmax.com/video/217658-after-spending-billions-on-mrna-technology-and-shilling-for-the-clot-shots-bill-gates-admits-they-don-t-even-work

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anon, @Anonymous

    “Bill “9 visits to Epstein Island” Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don’t work.”

    Clicked through the link and no, that’s not what he said. I’m sure you’ll keep calling vaccination “injection” in the hope of scaring the rubes with a big bad word.

    As to the Epstein island bit, admit it, youre just jealous, right?

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Anon


    Clicked through the link and no, that’s not what he said. I’m sure you’ll keep calling vaccination “injection” in the hope of scaring the rubes with a big bad word.

    As to the Epstein island bit, admit it, you're just jealous, right?
     

    Bill Gates, is that you?
    , @Mike Tre
    @Anon

    It’s always fun to reel in a couple anonymous Fauci fluffers!

    Replies: @Anon

  83. @Reg Cæsar
    @Mike Tre

    Just being a feminist makes her more American. What other country (away from the North Sea) is remotely as libby? Everywhere women are allowed to vote-- since Appenzell and Kuwait fell, that's everywhere but the Vatican-- shows the thumbprint of American influence.

    Yoko wasn't even in her teens yet when the US forced suffrage upon the prostrate Japanese. The voting age was set at 20 (the age she left Japan), while it was still 21 in America (except in Georgia).

    Compare Tokyo-born Yoko to Seattle-born Mrs Minoru Yamasaki who, after becoming his fourth wife (she was also his first) promised a reporter she would try harder to be a good Japanese wife this time. Mrs Y was way more Nipponese in attitude and worldview than the Divine Miss O.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anon

    In Embracing Defeat, John Dower describes how the feminization of postwar Japan was literally Jewish revenge, from the daughter of music instructors, who had been arrested during the war out of Japanese sympathy with Germany. The Americans were already interested in altering Japanese culture to prevent a re-assertion of militarism and this girl was invited into the discussions.

  84. @ben tillman
    @Truth

    I guess she deserves credit for inspiring the B-52's song Rock Lobster. That's as far as I'll go.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HammerJack

    Recently on Red Ice, Henrik and Lara disapproved of the B-52s, which amused me deeply, because, leaving aside the easy Emma Goldman reference, they happen to reside in a certain American state known for the abundance, beauty, and purity of its potatoes …

  85. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64404830

    How an unproven rumour about Tyre Nichols fits a larger victim-blaming pattern

    … Ms Kennelly said the release of video footage has caused far-right and pro-police activists to scramble for a coherent story with which to push back.

    Other posts by some of the same people are based on facts rather than speculation – for instance highlighting that the five officers initially charged are black and that Memphis is run by Democratic Party politicians.

    The intent, however, is the same. “[It’s] an effort to distract from the larger problem which is police brutality and the horrible scenes in the video,” Ms Kennelly said.

    “That’s why we’ve seen so many narratives over the past five days,” she said. “They are trying to get one that sticks, because it’s very difficult to argue that this is something other than police brutality.”

    Far from harmless gossip, Ms Kennelly said the rumours have a larger, negative, impact on public debate and called for more work by social media companies to stop the spread of misleading narratives.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Anonymous


    “That’s why we’ve seen so many narratives over the past five days,” she said. “They are trying to get one that sticks, because it’s very difficult to argue that this is something other than police brutality.”
     
    That's all well and good. I don't deny it was police brutality and I suspect most of the people commenting here don't deny it, either. Whatever their motivation was, these cops abused their power and killed the guy.

    The problem the BBC and all of the other establishment media has is that they only want there to be one motivation for the misconduct, even when that particular motivation makes no sense at all.

    It's not the "far-right and pro-police" side that's scrambling to contain the narrative... because five black cops misbehaving absolutely destroys the narrative.
  86. @Bobbocciooo
    Out of thread comment...

    Steve has often asked which group gets the most pokemon privilege points. Finally, studying AI has told us...
    https://davidrozado.substack.com/p/openaicms

    Wealthy people get the fewest, disabled people get the most. Thanks science.

    Replies: @New Dealer

    The pokemon privilege point ladder is good research, detailed, and fun.

    It measures whether negative comments about various groups are moderated as “hateful” and to be censored. The most nauseating thing about it is that Native Americans are right down there with whites and straight people with respect to acceptability of negative comments about them. Stolen land graffiti for them, but not bread.

    To insult people for class, education, or political alignment is rarely marked as hateful, probably because we live in a classless society, you bloodsucking, babykilling oligarchs.

  87. Anonymous[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    OT but always relevant to istevie:

    Bill "9 visits to Epstein Island" Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don't work. He also says the people that matter are the old people. If Boomers want to know why they get a lot of heat for the stereotypes associated with their generation, well look no further.

    Young people matter, Billy Boy (that goes for Steve "thank god the golf courses are open while schools remain closed" Sailer, That Would be Trolling, HA, and the rest of the Jolly Jack D jew brigade injection proponents around here). Not the old people.

    https://vidmax.com/video/217658-after-spending-billions-on-mrna-technology-and-shilling-for-the-clot-shots-bill-gates-admits-they-don-t-even-work

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anon, @Anonymous

    The only people who care about Epstein’s island are screeching women and sexless white knights. Normal people couldn’t care less.

    Bill “9 visits to Epstein Island” Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don’t work. He also says the people that matter are the old people. If Boomers want to know why they get a lot of heat for the stereotypes associated with their generation, well look no further.

    Did a boomer molest you as a child or something? If so, you have my sympathy. If not, you should get the rope for your antivaxxer idiocy. In Minecraft, of course.

    that goes for Steve “thank god the golf courses are open while schools remain closed” Sailer

    The lockdown is over, the schools are open. This grievance mongering is getting into full “never forget the six gorillion” territory.

  88. • Replies: @Adghjjhfddg
    @Reg Cæsar

    Tyres Nichol?

  89. @Thea
    @Reg Cæsar

    Imagine is a horrible song . If the philosophy is followed to its logical conclusion we get a nihilistic, self-interested culture where shallow, ephemeral pursuits are elevated above morality and heroism. The most trivial aspects a a person’s character must be public celebrity and legitimate faults never mentioned( obese women are beautiful!)

    In a nutshell, Yoko Ono can be blamed for our course, crass anti-white culture. :)

    Replies: @njguy73, @Hibernian

    If the philosophy is followed to its logical conclusion we get a nihilistic, self-interested culture where shallow, ephemeral pursuits are elevated above morality and heroism.

    It has been followed. On steroids.

    • Agree: Thea
  90. It’s especially important for the Establishment to not rush to conclude that We Must Cut Back on Enforcement of Traffic Laws in the Name of Tyre Nichols, when this might turn out to be a completely different kind of case.

    You need to seek help. I’m not kidding.

    I have watched you, step by step over many months, progressively delude yourself into thinking that this Deaths of Exuberance idea of yours is actually a thing. Now you’re just “assuming the sale,” talking about it as if it were a done deal that everyone agrees upon, and even using it as a glib, agonistic bolster to a contrary talking point.

    This is very deceptive behavior. This is something that Mean Girls do, not serious social critics. But it does provide a window into the workings of the whole iSteve universe. This is the answer to why iStevers always talk as if some great piece of Noticing exists in some ancient blog post somewhere, as if the profundity had already been laid bare; and thus elevated by arrogance, to treat those who disagree as outsiders who just don’t get the joke. However, when you search for what supposedly lies at the bottom of it all, it’s always nothing, just circular references and lame jokes.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Intelligent Dasein


    This is something that Mean Girls do
     
    I freely admit that I normally skim your posts at best, but I also freely admit that reading them can be real fun. Just not usually in a way you might intend.
  91. @tyrone
    @Ebony Obelisk


    Non existent whites create hatred and make People of Colour commit violence
     
    .......OH NO! ,ebony be on to us ,it dat white man gris gris......black cat bone and grave yard dirt.......you gonna need a live chicken this time boy.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Those of us (like myself) who are connoisseurs of TD’s extensive and magisterial oeuvre must perforce rate that particular quote highly indeed. The “non-existent” thing can only refer to ghosts, and I think fish (another connoisseur—the best) will back me up on this. I’m sure I need hardly remind present company anything about negroes and ghosts.

  92. @Barnard
    @Redneck farmer

    At what point do the large employers in the area like Fed Ex start putting pressure on the state of Tennessee to step in and take over administration of the Memphis PD just to keep the area safe for their operations?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    A better way would be to find another place for Fed Ex Hub/HQ

    • Agree: Yancey Ward
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Hibernian

    The logistical nightmare of an HQ relocation would be a colossal clusterF. Anyway FedEx Memphis Operations is pretty much out by the airport, and their WHQ is even further out of town. Out by a pretty golf course.

    Replies: @Jack D

  93. @Yancey Ward
    As for the video itself- I watched most of it twice now. While it is definitely murder at the end, Nichols was his own worst enemy, in my opinion, at the point of the initial stop. He seemed to not be able to just go limp right from the start and stop running his mouth. I think he was humiliated by being dragged from the car, and stupidly and actively did what he could to make the officers work much harder than necessary to cuff and secure him- it was the one way he thought he could fight back and reclaim some dignity. Being outnumbered 5 to 1 by cops armed with guns, tasers, spray and truncheons requires one to swallow their pride and put up zero resistance and and give zero lip.

    Replies: @Pastit

    He wasn’t very bright. He caused his own demise as all these cases do.

  94. @Reg Cæsar
    @Paleo Liberal


    But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.
     
    What she lacked wasn't talent, but taste. Still, she and Linda were pretty good wives, whatever their skills, or lack thereof, in the studio.

    Mea culpa, I didn't mean to hijack the thread!

    Replies: @Curle

    Highjack or not, you are correct on both points. I’m not convinced Yoko contributed much to the Beatle’s breakup and she definitely contributed a lot to domesticating John. I’d venture her business acumen, investing in cattle in the ‘70s, was far above his.

    • Agree: Paleo Liberal
  95. This affair has five black males beating another black male to death. The MSM, politicians, etc. make it into an anti-White hate fest.

  96. @Truth
    @Paleo Liberal


    But Yoko was really on the cutting edge of the avant-garde scene and was certainly a far cry from the talentless hack she was made out to be by her detractors.
     
    Old Sport, this is artistic talent that passes the test of time. Extremely white-friendly too...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYn993hria0

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Glad I stayed with that stupid commercial ’til the end, so I could witness the proud brotha join the white chicks making fun of the stupid white man!

    IOW, commercials are exactly the same as 20 years ago, when I quit watching television. Thanks!

    • Replies: @Truth
    @HammerJack

    Oh I don't know if that's quite fair HJ.

    I mean, there were two Mess-kins and another Honkee making fun of the stupid white man too...

  97. @ben tillman
    @Truth

    I guess she deserves credit for inspiring the B-52's song Rock Lobster. That's as far as I'll go.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HammerJack

    Yoko was merely testifying against toxic masculinity! And the best cure for one toxin is another, apparently.

  98. @Hibernian
    @Barnard

    A better way would be to find another place for Fed Ex Hub/HQ

    Replies: @HammerJack

    The logistical nightmare of an HQ relocation would be a colossal clusterF. Anyway FedEx Memphis Operations is pretty much out by the airport, and their WHQ is even further out of town. Out by a pretty golf course.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @HammerJack


    The logistical nightmare of an HQ relocation would be a colossal clusterF.
     
    It's not unusual for corporations to relocated their HQ despite the considerable expense. The #1 factor seems to be the place of residence of the CEO. If the new king wants to relocate the capital to another city, the palace staff all need to follow him. Boeing HQ ended up in Chicago even though the factories were mainly in Wash and then recently they moved yet again to Arlington, VA, presumably to be near the Pentagon.

    In the case of Fedex, while OTOH they are located a good 20 miles from the old downtown and in a low crime suburban area, legally they are just inside the borders of the City of Memphis. I am guessing that Memphis was able to annex this valuable tax paying piece of property into their city.
  99. @Intelligent Dasein

    It’s especially important for the Establishment to not rush to conclude that We Must Cut Back on Enforcement of Traffic Laws in the Name of Tyre Nichols, when this might turn out to be a completely different kind of case.
     
    You need to seek help. I'm not kidding.

    I have watched you, step by step over many months, progressively delude yourself into thinking that this Deaths of Exuberance idea of yours is actually a thing. Now you're just "assuming the sale," talking about it as if it were a done deal that everyone agrees upon, and even using it as a glib, agonistic bolster to a contrary talking point.

    This is very deceptive behavior. This is something that Mean Girls do, not serious social critics. But it does provide a window into the workings of the whole iSteve universe. This is the answer to why iStevers always talk as if some great piece of Noticing exists in some ancient blog post somewhere, as if the profundity had already been laid bare; and thus elevated by arrogance, to treat those who disagree as outsiders who just don't get the joke. However, when you search for what supposedly lies at the bottom of it all, it's always nothing, just circular references and lame jokes.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    This is something that Mean Girls do

    I freely admit that I normally skim your posts at best, but I also freely admit that reading them can be real fun. Just not usually in a way you might intend.

    • Agree: Inverness
    • Disagree: Mike Tre
  100. @Ralph L
    Are you implying Goldman wasn't just returning Mrs. Brown's glasses? LA had straight male waiters?

    Replies: @Midnights

    I believe the rumor is, Goldman was her coke dealer.

  101. @Anonymous
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64404830

    How an unproven rumour about Tyre Nichols fits a larger victim-blaming pattern

    ... Ms Kennelly said the release of video footage has caused far-right and pro-police activists to scramble for a coherent story with which to push back.

    Other posts by some of the same people are based on facts rather than speculation - for instance highlighting that the five officers initially charged are black and that Memphis is run by Democratic Party politicians.

    The intent, however, is the same. "[It's] an effort to distract from the larger problem which is police brutality and the horrible scenes in the video," Ms Kennelly said.

    "That's why we've seen so many narratives over the past five days," she said. "They are trying to get one that sticks, because it's very difficult to argue that this is something other than police brutality."

    Far from harmless gossip, Ms Kennelly said the rumours have a larger, negative, impact on public debate and called for more work by social media companies to stop the spread of misleading narratives.
     

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    “That’s why we’ve seen so many narratives over the past five days,” she said. “They are trying to get one that sticks, because it’s very difficult to argue that this is something other than police brutality.”

    That’s all well and good. I don’t deny it was police brutality and I suspect most of the people commenting here don’t deny it, either. Whatever their motivation was, these cops abused their power and killed the guy.

    The problem the BBC and all of the other establishment media has is that they only want there to be one motivation for the misconduct, even when that particular motivation makes no sense at all.

    It’s not the “far-right and pro-police” side that’s scrambling to contain the narrative… because five black cops misbehaving absolutely destroys the narrative.

  102. @Anon
    @Mike Tre

    "Bill “9 visits to Epstein Island” Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don’t work."

    Clicked through the link and no, that's not what he said. I'm sure you'll keep calling vaccination "injection" in the hope of scaring the rubes with a big bad word.

    As to the Epstein island bit, admit it, youre just jealous, right?

    Replies: @Mark G., @Mike Tre

    Clicked through the link and no, that’s not what he said. I’m sure you’ll keep calling vaccination “injection” in the hope of scaring the rubes with a big bad word.

    As to the Epstein island bit, admit it, you’re just jealous, right?

    Bill Gates, is that you?

  103. @Mikeja
    The body cam video starts with the police throwing him out of his car. It’d be good to see what his offense was. Why were they so mad at him? Not that it excuses what they did but maybe it would explain it

    Replies: @Adghjjhfddg

    We were told by The Good People that there was no legitimate reason for the traffic stop. That’s all you need to know.

  104. @Reg Cæsar
    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6LMAAOSw8h9i3D-s/s-l300.jpg

    Replies: @Adghjjhfddg

    Tyres Nichol?

  105. @Yancey Ward
    My prediction- all of the cops who beat on him until he was dead get acquitted or hung jury on the state charges. The only guy convicted of murder will be some fat ass white cop who wasn't on the scene after Nichols ran away from the initial stop.

    Replies: @Adghjjhfddg

    I think they wanted to do that with freddie gray, but the case ludicrously fell apart before they got to the white guys

  106. @HammerJack
    @Hibernian

    The logistical nightmare of an HQ relocation would be a colossal clusterF. Anyway FedEx Memphis Operations is pretty much out by the airport, and their WHQ is even further out of town. Out by a pretty golf course.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The logistical nightmare of an HQ relocation would be a colossal clusterF.

    It’s not unusual for corporations to relocated their HQ despite the considerable expense. The #1 factor seems to be the place of residence of the CEO. If the new king wants to relocate the capital to another city, the palace staff all need to follow him. Boeing HQ ended up in Chicago even though the factories were mainly in Wash and then recently they moved yet again to Arlington, VA, presumably to be near the Pentagon.

    In the case of Fedex, while OTOH they are located a good 20 miles from the old downtown and in a low crime suburban area, legally they are just inside the borders of the City of Memphis. I am guessing that Memphis was able to annex this valuable tax paying piece of property into their city.

  107. @Inquiring Mind
    @Muggles

    Yes, but, body cams!

    I mean who commits a fatal beat-down to settle a personal grievance while the little-red-light is on?

    Replies: @Muggles

    I mean who commits a fatal beat-down to settle a personal grievance while the little-red-light is on?

    And who, for any other reason?

  108. @HammerJack
    @Truth

    Glad I stayed with that stupid commercial 'til the end, so I could witness the proud brotha join the white chicks making fun of the stupid white man!

    IOW, commercials are exactly the same as 20 years ago, when I quit watching television. Thanks!

    Replies: @Truth

    Oh I don’t know if that’s quite fair HJ.

    I mean, there were two Mess-kins and another Honkee making fun of the stupid white man too…

  109. @Anon
    @Mike Tre

    "Bill “9 visits to Epstein Island” Gates comes out to reveal the mRNA injections don’t work."

    Clicked through the link and no, that's not what he said. I'm sure you'll keep calling vaccination "injection" in the hope of scaring the rubes with a big bad word.

    As to the Epstein island bit, admit it, youre just jealous, right?

    Replies: @Mark G., @Mike Tre

    It’s always fun to reel in a couple anonymous Fauci fluffers!

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Mike Tre

    Fauci was a failure and probably a fag too, but even he's preferable to the Truther who weighs 400 pounds.

  110. @Mike Tre
    @Anon

    It’s always fun to reel in a couple anonymous Fauci fluffers!

    Replies: @Anon

    Fauci was a failure and probably a fag too, but even he’s preferable to the Truther who weighs 400 pounds.

  111. @Paleo Liberal
    @Arclight

    Some of the most anti cop things I have heard have come from current and former police officers. Almost every one has some horror stories. One guy told me he stopped taking bribes because he had to give too big a cut to his sergeant and to the brass. He was left with a pittance and all the risk.

    I still remember when the “Dirty Thirty” scandal broke in NY, a former cop I knew dropped by my office to remind me that he had told me about this sort of thing before it was revealed.

    My friend’s complaints were that the NYPD had softened its criteria for cops. In the old days my friend had trouble getting onto the force because he had a desk appearance ticket for playing frisbee on the beach. Not long afterwards the NYPD started letting people with one misdemeanor conviction on the force. Then multiple misdemeanor convictions. Of course many of these were felonies plea bargained down to misdemeanors. So the NYPD has been letting in serial felons for a number of decades now.

    At some point gangs started infiltrating the NYPD. At some point entire units in the NYPD were gangs. The Dirty Thirty scandal was gang warfare between two rival drug gangs, one of which wore badges as part of the drug task force in the 30th Precinct.

    And the same $#!+ happened in the LAPD. The cops were the gang.

    Hey, I spent a few years in an Italian neighborhood and the locals seemed to have a slightly better opinion of the Mafia than the cops. I had a cop neighbor. He had some kind neighbors let me know the cop would overlook some issues with my car that could have gotten me a ticket as long as I never again parked in front of his home. He was kind enough to have the other neighbors warn me never to take his space again. I don’t know if a Mafia guy would have given me a second chance.

    Replies: @Arclight

    DC had the same problem – at one point something like 20% of the force had a criminal background, and there were clearly elements that collaborated with the local drug dealers – many of my black neighbors were afraid to call the cops because they would get ratted out and then would have to face the wrath of well-armed young thugs who didn’t respect anyone.

    Even in less obviously corrupt cities, policing does attract a certain type of meathead that enjoys throwing what little authority they have around and certainly escalates the temperature of routine interactions more than is necessary. It’s a tough job and dealing with a lot of pond scum on a daily basis will wear on you, I am sure – but I do agree with the general premise that cops need to be held accountable and those that perform poorly under duress need to be let go.

  112. @Reg Cæsar
    @Mike Tre

    Just being a feminist makes her more American. What other country (away from the North Sea) is remotely as libby? Everywhere women are allowed to vote-- since Appenzell and Kuwait fell, that's everywhere but the Vatican-- shows the thumbprint of American influence.

    Yoko wasn't even in her teens yet when the US forced suffrage upon the prostrate Japanese. The voting age was set at 20 (the age she left Japan), while it was still 21 in America (except in Georgia).

    Compare Tokyo-born Yoko to Seattle-born Mrs Minoru Yamasaki who, after becoming his fourth wife (she was also his first) promised a reporter she would try harder to be a good Japanese wife this time. Mrs Y was way more Nipponese in attitude and worldview than the Divine Miss O.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anon

    Japannis more leftist and feminist than the USA. Southern and Eastern Europe is also more feminist and leftist than Northwestern Europe.

    John Lennon wasn’t a “mquetoast”; Asian women just don’t need beating

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