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How is Donald Trump’s campaign to portray Joe Biden as a feeble oldster who should have his car keys taken away and be put into a old folks home playing with the massive voting bloc of oldsters who don’t want to have their car keys taken away and be put into an old folks home?

Similarly, while it’s objectively true that COVID isn’t very dangerous to non-obese people below, say, 60, and that fact has been covered up, isn’t it also true that there are an enormous number of old and/or fat voters?

 
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  1. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Pericles
  2. Thomm says:

    Barring massive vote fraud, Trump wins easily, as he should.

    No one who liked him in 2016 does not like him now. But many others have crossed over. Since Trump turned out to not be a White Trashionalist, all mainstream GOP blogs are enthusiastic about him, plus he will get a 4-point shift in Hispanics and a 2-point shift in Blacks, relative to 2016.

    Also remember that a bunch of women turned out for Hillary because she is a woman. Biden cannot get the same effect just with Harris.

    Lastly, remember that Gary Johnson got 3.5% of the popular vote. Whenever there is a third party candidate in a non-incumbent election, the subsequent election sees most of the formerly third party votes go to the incumbent. Study Perot ’92 vs ’96, and Nader ’00 vs. ’04, for more detail.

    This leaves us with…..vote fraud. That, alas, is a problem.

  3. The older, the fatter, and those at risk of Covid understand what Trump is saying about Biden. They are also wise enough to understand what the leftists are trying to do to this country. They see our cities burning, while leftists demand that police be defunded, and put on trial for murder. They see the Democrat mayors, governors, and in Congress do exactly what the mob wants. They see this weak, confused, Biden is incapable of standing up to the leftist mob. They know that Biden isn’t capable of even standing up to his piranha of a VicePresidential candidate.

    • Agree: Thirdtwin
  4. Anon[101] • Disclaimer says:

    Similarly, while it’s objectively true that COVID isn’t very dangerous to non-obese people below, say, 60, and that fact has been covered up, isn’t it also true that there are an enormous number of old and/or fat voters?

    In my observation, there isn’t a very strong correlation between the object risk that COVID poses to a person and the amount that the person is worried about it.

  5. Older, heavier, people who are at higher risk for Covid also remember the days when America was tall and proud. They remember the days, 1968, and others when leftists were burning American cities and rioting again. They see what the left is doing to our cities, to our country. They know what Trump is trying to say. They know Trump is talking about Biden and Biden’s weakness, that Biden cannot stand up to the radical left in the Democratic Party. That Biden cannot stand up to the radical left that is destroying the police forces throughout our nation. That Biden is too weak to even stand up to Piranha of a vice president.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  6. Twitter giveth and Twitter taketh away.

  7. newrouter says:

    Old folks aren’t “woke/stupid” Steve:

    Fairacres Manor residents protest state COVID-19 rules against physical contact
    “We want to see our families. We miss the hugs,” one resident said

    https://www.greeleytribune.com/2020/10/08/fairacres-manor-residents-protest-state-covid-19-rules-against-physical-contact/

  8. LOL! What a great tweet.

    I don’t know, Steve. It may not change anyone’s mind either. Decent people of all ages can take a joke.

    If I were a potential Trump voter, un-PC humor like this might get me to think “hey, he is one cool guy. I’ll make an effort to get a ballot.” As for me, I’m gonna vote for the man in the hope his win will stave off total Cultural Revolution till I’m more prepped-up.

    • Agree: Thirdtwin
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. newrouter says:

    “How is Donald Trump’s campaign to portray Joe Biden :”

    as Hitler going to work?

    as a White Supremacist going to work?

    as a dictator going to work?

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  10. MBlanc46 says:

    The Trumpistas had Trump demolishing Biden in debate. Biden was going to be drooling on himself by the end, if he made it to the end. Biden showed up, was pretty standard Biden. Biden won, Trump lost, and it’s been downhill since for Trump. Say good night, Donald.

    • Agree: Mike_from_SGV
  11. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:

    This may be relevant:

    “Trump Dumps the Sailer Strategy”

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/trump-dumps-the-sailer-strategy/

    These results are striking. They show Trump improving by a net of 11 points among non-whites but declining by a net of 10 points among whites from 2016 to 2020. Because whites still comprise nearly three-quarters of the voting electorate, this is not a wash for the president. It represents an apparent decline in total support, albeit arrived at in exactly the opposite way the major media Narrative would have us believe. Trump is not doubling down on white men at the expense of everyone else. To the contrary, he’s making inroads with everyone else as he concedes support among white men.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  12. Trump’s lack of political experience is really showing this year. His one trick is baiting his opponents via inflammatory comments. It works on ill disciplined egotistical people like HRC and most of the media. But Biden has been shrewd enough not to take the bait.

    Biden’s campaign has been a study in calm discipline and that’s a big reason he’ll likely win in November. Didn’t panic after Iowa and NH, but instead knew that Bernie and the progressives would fizz out in the South. In the meantime, he locked up the black vote there, and had the party bigwigs ready to drop the axe on his primary challengers and force them out after he posted wins in Southern states.

    He’s kept up the discipline during the general campaign, keeping events to a minimum, knowing that the best way for him to win is to let Trump beat himself. And despite whatever level of senility he may be experiencing, he has enough experience to come off credible in debates.

    Biden and his campaign staff have really done a good job at studying Trump’s tactics and figuring out how to neutralize them. Masterful job.

  13. Peterike says:

    Trump is the greatest President in at least 100 years, with potential to be the best in history.

    Biden is a lifetime do-nothing grifter who should be in prison for crimes too numerous to count.

    Your choice America.

    • Agree: Corn
    • LOL: AndrewR
  14. Peterike says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    “ Biden and his campaign staff have really done a good job at studying Trump’s tactics and figuring out how to neutralize them. Masterful job.”

    That’s the stupidest thing on the internet today.

    Biden is “leading” (he’s not) because of a four year non-stop media lie campaign against Trump. Are you too stupid to see that? Biden’s campaign is non-existent. His VP has not given a single press conference. Biden “rallies” have more Trump people at them then Biden supporters.

    For gods sake turn off the media you ignorant rube.

  15. @NJ Transit Commuter

    Your account of Biden doing a “masterful job” is indistinguishable from an account of Biden being a geezer who does practically nothing.

    That I can’t tell which is true is pretty annoying, tbh

  16. Anon7 says:

    President Trump has triumphed in all but one area – he couldn’t get Republicans to come together for some sort of replacement for Obamacare. No healthcare for all during a pandemic.

    Strike one.

    Trump couldn’t see the future and realize that Covid19 was going to take out a quarter of a million people, using the usual rules for determining Underlying Cause of Death.

    Strike two.

    Trump’s basic attitude of not hiding from problems and facing life head-on without a mask feels like exactly the wrong thing for unhealthy Americans to do during a pandemic.

    Strike three.

    In Michigan, Biden is outspending Trump 15 to 1, and they’re pounding Trump in every aspect of his COVID performance.

    • Replies: @GoRedWings!
  17. @Peterike

    Trump is the greatest President in at least 100 years, with potential to be the best in history.

    Biden is a lifetime do-nothing grifter who should be in prison for crimes too numerous to count.

    Your choice America.

    I don’t think you’re reaching “America” in Steve Sailer’s blog comments.

    • LOL: Lace
  18. Corn says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    keeping events to a minimum

    He’s keeping events to a minimum so he doesn’t lose his train of thought in front of voters. I was showed a clip the other day where he stated he was running for Senate.

    I remember when I used to visit my uncle in the nursing home. He was in his early 60s, his schizophrenia had deteriorated to the point he was psychotic half the time, and sometimes when I visited he would crap his pants. Yet he voted and his vote counted same as ours.

    I’m probably gonna rile some people with this, but cognitive decline is inevitable as we get older. I think there should be a restriction on the franchise. I think people aged 80 or older or people resident in a skilled care facility shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

    And no, I don’t expect this to actually happen.

    • Replies: @Anon87
    , @Jack D
  19. @newrouter

    All they have to do is stand back and let Trump self-destruct.

    As others here observe, if Trump were smart and/or savvy he could still snatch victory even at this late date. There’s enough raw material out there for him to do it. But if he were smart and savvy, he wouldn’t be Trump.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    , @Anon
  20. @Peterike

    Trump is the greatest President in at least 100 years, with potential to be the best in history.

    Good God, you’re serious. Please call me ‘stupid’ too. TIA.

  21. @NJ Transit Commuter

    He’s kept up the discipline during the general campaign, keeping events to a minimum, knowing that the best way for him to win is to let Trump beat himself.

    It’s not “discipline;” it’s that he’s physically and mentally incapable of campaigning for President or performing the duties of that office.

  22. @Peterike

    This election is a shit test for America/Americans:

    “Do you want to be a citizen of a free, prosperous, rule-of-law nation?”

    or

    “Be a serf who must ‘Obey Big Sister’”.

    • Agree: Redman
  23. @NJ Transit Commuter

    You probably thought Chauncey Gardiner’s cryptic utterances were sheer brilliance.

  24. Redman says:
    @Peterike

    Biden’s campaign is nonexistent. Does he even have a campaign manager? If so, I haven’t heard her name and I follow this stuff fairly closely.

    This is an election between Trump and TPTB. Biden might as well be a mannequin the DNC hauls around and props up from time to time. The masses who hate Trump actually think this election is about him and not a generational event. Incredible.

    What is Biden’s message? He has zilch to offer other than not being Trump. Even Jim Carrey on SNL plays him as old and senile without any redeeming feature or anything to say. And the SNL audience wants to see Trump die. I just can’t imagine a country voting for a leader who probably wears Depends.

    • Replies: @keypusher
  25. Twinkie says:

    Biden’s “low energy” seems to be helping him against Trump.

    Biden’s strategy appears to be about letting everyone in the Establishment but him attacking Trump for his benefit while making himself as absent and as “inoffensive” as possible to the voters.

    The strategy looks to be along the lines of “Hey, I think lots of people are sick of the he-said-she-said between the right and the left and all the mud-slinging going on and are willing to vote for somebody who seems bland and just kinda there without making a scene.”

  26. Mr. Anon says:

    Similarly, while it’s objectively true that COVID isn’t very dangerous to non-obese people below, say, 60, and that fact has been covered up, isn’t it also true that there are an enormous number of old and/or fat voters?

    Not as many as there used to be.

  27. Travis says:

    good point.

    We do have more obese and elderly whites in America than healthy white people aged 20-60. This is why the lock-downs keep going and going and the schools remain closed. Most white people today do not have any school aged-children , thus they would rather keep the colleges and schools closed in the hope that it protects themselves from contracting coronavirus. They are willing to destroy the economy, stop educating our youth and isolate themselves to avoid getting an illness which kills about 2% of those over the age of 60. Screw the young families with children , so they can keep collecting social security. 20% of the elderly (those over age 65) have diabetes in America and 25% are obese. Yet their primary concern is getting coronavirus instead of losing weight and eating better.

    white demographics
    < 25 years-old — 45 million
    25-50 years-old — 75 million
    over 50 years old- 80 million

    With so many elderly frightened of COVID and so many young people kept out of college, kept from working and kept from socializing we should expect Biden may well win this election. Young people are upset, blaming Trump for COVID , while the elderly and obese are upset that Trump does not share their fear of contracting coronavirus.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  28. Twinkie says:
    @AnotherDad

    “Be a serf who must ‘Obey Big Sister’”.

    It’s worse than that. I am convinced that they want to make me (and others like me) a criminal overnight. The Democratic pols in my state almost did this, but stopped short when tens of thousands of people showed up with guns at the state capitol and put a little fear of God into them.

  29. Thomas says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    The pushback you’re getting from this are the same kind of people who don’t understand how Mayweather beat Pacquiao or how the Communists beat the U.S. in Vietnam. “But all Biden does is duck the media and hide in his basement!” Yeah, that’s 90% of what he’s had to do, plus fog up a mirror here and there the other 10% of the time. Outside of Trump’s base, which isn’t enough to carry him to a second term by itself, most people are just tired of Trump and want his presidency to be over. Biden just has to not get in the way.

  30. @Thomm

    No one who liked him in 2016 does not like him now.

    You’re about to get about fifty comments saying otherwise.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  31. Thomas says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Trump cares more about making Trump feel good at any given moment than he does about being effective politically. His presidency has largely reflected that.

    In a way, I don’t blame him. I wouldn’t want to even still be working full-time in my 70s and definitely wouldn’t have wanted to take on the world’s hardest job at 70.

    The problem is that the country, many of us in it, and maybe Western civilization itself, were counting on him caring more about what he was going to do with the office than what it was going to do for him.

    • Agree: ic1000
  32. BenKenobi says:
    @Thomm

    Hi Gurprinder, you filthy dalit. Welcome back. Glad to see your “comment” wasn’t summarily trashed by the host as usual.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  33. Whiskey says: • Website

    White women. They hate Trump. They are all woke. Their husbands vote the way they tell them.

    Biden wins in a landslide. He’s up 18 points. He literally cannot lose.

    Overwhelming ly White women back blm and reparations and White quotas and all that. Anti fa is very popular among White women and most White people. Look at Seattle and Portland. Very White cities.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    , @Anonymous
  34. @Thomas

    Biden just has to not get in the way.

    Fortunately for us, Biden does keep getting in the way.

  35. How is Donald Trump’s campaign to portray Joe Biden as a feeble oldster who should have his car keys taken away and be put into a old folks home playing with the massive voting bloc of oldsters who don’t want to have their car keys taken away and be put into an old folks home?

    Just remind them that Kamala will be President. And their grandchildren will pay.

    Dearly.

    Something similar worked for LBJ 56 years ago.

    By the way, kids, she’s using the New Math.

  36. @Thomas

    Name one successful Presidential campaign based on the idea that “I’m not the other guy. And that’s why you should support me!”

    You can’t. Any successful candidate has to articulate a vision based on optimism. That’s why Trump won 4 years ago. It’s why Zero won in 2008. Not being the other guy is a certain road to electoral failure. Biden hasn’t articulated anything original or coherent. Even his slogan is stolen from Boris Johnson.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    , @James O'Meara
  37. @AnotherDad

    “Be a serf who must ‘Obey Big Sister’”.

    There are more than enough tards out there who think this would be just great.

    • Agree: Clyde, bomag
  38. Thomm says:
    @BenKenobi

    I am not a South Asian. Whoever told you that lied to you (since your IQ is 70, as you frequently demonstrate). No one seems to be able to produce any comments of mine that would be typical of a South Asian.

    Even Ron Unz admitted that he just made that up to troll WN wiggers like you. He now flip-flops, and calls me a South Asian one day, and a Jew the next, but he can’t produce a link to anything I said that makes me a South Asian (he links to things HE wrote, but can’t find anything I actually wrote). Remember, Ron Unz and I are actually in cahoots (even if he often forgets that), since the true purpose of this site is obvious to people of normal IQ (unlike you).

    But back to you : More people are figuring out that you WN wiggers are actually mostly gay. I recall that you openly said that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman, since race loyalty is more important than sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby. It is not just me that has noticed this, btw. Rosie, Alden, and Truth all have pointed out that most of you WNs are flaming homos. You are then actually surprised that functional whites like me keep you out of respectable society.

    Now, get off my lawn!

    Heh heh heh heh

    • LOL: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  39. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

  40. Anon7 says:
    @Whiskey

    This raises a very good question. Among white men who supported Trump in 2016, but do not support him in 2020, how many are married to women voting for Biden?

  41. Mr. Anon says:
    @Thomm

    Heh heh heh heh

    You even type like a retard.

    • LOL: peterike
  42. Mr. Anon says:
    @Travis

    They may see a reaction from younger voters, who are bound to feel a lot of resentment at the old boomers.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  43. Thomas says:
    @Bragadocious

    Name one successful Presidential campaign based on the idea that “I’m not the other guy. And that’s why you should support me!”

    1976 would be closest I can think of, with Ford paying for Nixon’s sins and “Jimmy Who?” being able to sneak in as an unknown Washington outsider.

    Either way though, it’s a mistake to completely base your expectations of the near future entirely on the past, especially if you’re ignoring the present. Trump is a novelty in politics and this election year is unlike any other in so many ways that it’s a mistake to put too much weight on past elections over visible present trends. Trump tends to dominate the conversation so completely that he turns everything into a question of “for him or against him.” The problem is he has never done much of anything, either in his presidency or this campaign, to expand his base of support. And this is just generally one of the crappiest years in American history. The last time any year came close (1968), the sitting President didn’t even bother to run for reelection.

    The case for Trump (meaning the case for why he will win) seems heavily based in expectations about the past. That’s conservatism bias. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_(belief_revision))

    Most particularly, those who are bullish on Trump expect the polls to behave just like they did in 2016. They don’t consider whether 2016 was a fluke, or whether polling has adapted and gotten better (as it seemed to in 2018). And they don’t usually dig in to the below-the-line numbers and see where Trump has gained or lost support relative to 2016 to base their predictions (this and one other post on this blog tonight have highlighted some of the narrow slice-of-the-electorate problems Trump probably has).

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @GoRedWings!
  44. @Bragadocious

    “You can’t beat somebody with nobody” — Harry Truman on Thomas Dewey.

  45. keypusher says:
    @Thomm

    Do you promise, on November 4, to confess that you’re an utter moron?

  46. keypusher says:
    @Redman

    He has zilch to offer other than not being Trump.

    That’s all he needs to offer.

    • Replies: @Travis
  47. Rob McX says:
    @Thomm

    Also remember that a bunch of women turned out for Hillary because she is a woman. Biden cannot get the same effect just with Harris.

    Trouble is, many Biden voters probably think they’re voting for a woman too. Because if Joe stays put after being elected, it’ll be like having Jerry Lundegaard in the Oval Office, with 20 years of cognitive decline added on.

  48. If Trump had any sense, he’d drive a stake through the heart of Jack by moving to Parler and telling everyone who follows him to drop Twitter and make the jump with him.

  49. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous

    There hasn’t been much talk about this but the mask trutherism coming from the right is really hurting them electorally. There’s a pandemic with 200k+ deaths. Any remotely reasonable person who isn’t drunk on far-right politics is gonna think you’re deranged for being anti mask.

    Mask truth: No masks in Sweden has actually worked out fine so far. Far right, baby doll.

    However, the cruel methods of Cuomo the Killer, viz., packing the old people’s homes with C19 cases, appear to have had bad effects here too.

    As for the US: Ventilators were hysterically needed but turned out to be bad. Masks were unnecessary until they had been stockpiled by the authorities, then they were required. Large gatherings bad, but what happens at a peaceful demonstrations stays at the peaceful demonstration. Hug a chinaman. There we have some of the hyperintelligent policies of the smartest gals in the room.

  50. Anonymous[385] • Disclaimer says:
    @Euripides is Laughing

    They know Biden’s weak, and so is Trump.

  51. Spud Boy says:

    I heard an analysis about the polls from someone who paid the extra money to see the raw data behind the summary. One supposedly reputable poll assumed that Trump would only get 78% of the vote among registered Republicans, which is 10% less than he received in 2016–a year when the Ben Shapiros of the world worried that Trump was a Democrat in disguise.

    I’m not saying Trump will win, but that 78% number is preposterous, and accounts for most of the lead the polls now claim Biden holds.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Thanks: GoRedWings!
    • Replies: @Travis
  52. Anonymous[347] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    As for me, I’m gonna vote for the man in the hope his win will stave off total Cultural Revolution till I’m more prepped-up.

    Is there less wokeness now than there was four years ago? I recently saw a Trump ad saying “Joe and Kamala are gonna cancel you,” and I’m like, “yeah, and what are you gonna do about it?” Does he think we’ve forgotten about Steve Bannon? Or Darren Beattie? Apparently so.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  53. ATBOTL says:
    @Thomm

    No one who liked him in 2016 does not like him now.

    False. He lost the alt-right.

    • Replies: @Anon87
  54. Trump won the 2016 GOP by appealing to non voters, independents , and the gamergate – alt right boys. By the convention he won the religious right and a good bit of the old guard. After the election Trump dumped the alt right. His Israel first policy and the GOP failure on healthcare has damaged him with independents. Not ending the wars and doing something about the illegal drugs hurts him with the previously non voting supporters.

    All of the above are pretty much white. Jared’s black strategy is stupid if the whites walk. My guess is the younger Trump voters will sit this out. The independents are likely to spread their vote around to third party candidates. As for the older voter, if they vote Democrat because of covid, they are morons. Democrat governors’ policy sacrificed the old for political gain. All and all Trump is toast, but only if the elite don’t need the Donald to play pseudo tyrant for their American Color Flag Revolution. If Trump gets a second term, ironically it might be due to the righties opting to grill during the protests and the FBI’s hilarious attempt at white supremacy terrorism.

  55. Travis says:
    @keypusher

    The onset of senility is another feature of Biden, everyone knows he will be quickly replaced. This is actually helpful to Biden. The leftists are more apt to vote for Biden , because they know he will be quickly replaced and will certainly not last 2 years in office.

    Biden’s senility is a positive trait for him in this election cycle. Mocking his dementia will just inspire more Leftists to vote for Biden , knowing this is a vote for the first Back woman President. This is why the DNC wisely chose a Black women to be the VP.

    if Biden still had his full mental capacity he would turn-off more leftist voters. His senility offers him a huge advantage in attracting leftist voters. otherwise Biden would repel the Bernie bros.

  56. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon

    They may see a reaction from younger voters, who are bound to feel a lot of resentment at the old boomers.

    There’s plenty of coronavirus hysteria among the young. Where I live the majority of people wearing masks are young women. And they’re the ones who are most disapproving of people who don’t wear masks.

    My guess would be that COVID will cost Trump a lot of female votes.

    The hatred of Boomers thing seems to be largely an alt-right obsession.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  57. Travis says:

    Pointing out the diminished mental capacity of Biden is a poor strategy. Trump needs to promote a positive agenda and highlight his accomplishments instead of denigrating an old man, who clearly does not have the capacity to be the commander in Chief.

  58. @Thomas

    Trump cares more about making Trump feel good at any given moment than he does about being effective politically. His presidency has largely reflected that.

    In a way, I don’t blame him. I wouldn’t want to even still be working full-time in my 70s and definitely wouldn’t have wanted to take on the world’s hardest job at 70.

    The problem is that the country, many of us in it, and maybe Western civilization itself, were counting on him caring more about what he was going to do with the office than what it was going to do for him.

    Well said, Thomas. Sadly … agree.

    I actually love Trump’s overall “fire away” style. Our minoritarian “elites” have looted and raped America, trashed the future of our people. They are a parasitic cancer … and Trump’s the only one who has been willing to call “bullshit” on at least some of their shenanigans.

    But Trump’s a weird guy in a couple ways that :

    1) For an alpha male, he seems awfully sensitive. Bristles at any criticism and gets into pissing matches with people beneath him. Ever heard of “brush it off”? You’re alphas, ignore and power through.

    2) For a successful businessman he seems to really lack focus/discipline. The guys’ got incredible energy, yet at buckling down on many key tasks … lazy. If i’d been so feckless in my career–i wouldn’t be retired, i’d be in a blue vest saying “Welcome to Walmart”.

    • Agree: HammerJack, Travis
    • Replies: @Thomas
    , @Anon87
  59. @Alexander Turok

    Heh, you’re right. Since assuming office, Trump has revealed that he’s still the same NYC liberal Democratic gun grabber he was when he wrote a book calling for a ban on “assault weapons” (details on request, but while it’s not much discussed here (why doesn’t unz.com have someone from US gun culture writing for it? I suppose I’d volunteer…), that’s another important part of the coalition that elected him who he’s screwed multiple times). Worse, I’ve come to the conclusion he doesn’t really like white people, and to any unz.com reader I don’t need to prove that, you’ve got the same data to make your own conclusion one way or another.

    His COVID-19 response shows he’s not very good at dealing with what could have been an existential threat based on the limited and bad data we had in the early months. For just one example, see the CDC/FDA testing debacle which resulted in only 4,000 people being tested through the end of February. While that was probably enemy action on the FDA’s part, the CDC incompetence was total predicable, and he/his team could have nipped both in the bud. I doubt he won any points after it was fixed by stating he took no responsibility for it, and in general his narcissism on COVID-19 comes across as sociopathy. Plus no vaccine approved by the FDA before the election; that probably wasn’t in the cards, but promises and the end results of Operation Warp Speed (making lots of doses from a number of promising candidates before we know if any work) won’t help him much on the 3rd.

    While a Biden/Harris win, or a successful coup/revolution would be very bad, a lot of us fear with I think good reason what a 2nd Trump term might bring after he no longer has to worry about reelection. The only good thing that might happen if the Democrats win or “win” is putting Antifa/BLM/RevCom back on a leash, and I don’t think any of us are counting on that, 2020 and on are not 2017 when the optics of Antifa bloodying random elderly people who were in the general area of their mostly peaceful protests clearly resulted in a “shut it down” order from on high, and it mostly being obeyed.

  60. @Thomas

    Trump cares more about making Trump feel good at any given moment than he does about being effective politically. His presidency has largely reflected that.

    Has anyone else noticed he hasn’t visibly aged like so many of his modern predecessors?

    • Replies: @Thomas
    , @Muggles
  61. I appear to be one of the outliers here, but the current polls look suspiciously like the ones in 2016. Simply judging enthusiasm, I would paraphrase one of our host’s commonly referenced axioms: do you believe CNN or your own lying eyes? Look at the number of people at these Trump rallies. In 47 years of political office, has Biden EVER gathered that many people? He can’t fill a phone booth, even before the excuse of the pandemic. He won 8.5% of New Hampshire in the Democrat primary. Trump won 85% of New Hampshire in his primary. Enthusiasm.

    I truly don’t think the election is going to be close, and I would call Professor Norpoth as my first witness:

    https://news.stonybrook.edu/facultystaff/maverick-modeller-helmut-norpoth-predicts-another-win-for-trump/

    He goes by the primary numbers; that is, people who actually voted.

    • Thanks: sayless
    • Replies: @sayless
  62. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey

    Those are wine cat broads who cant get a husband. As @Isteve tirelessly points out marital status most predictive when estimating womens vote and party.

    Trump won white women rather easily.

  63. If i’d been so feckless in my career–i wouldn’t be retired, i’d be in a blue vest saying “Welcome to Walmart”.

    So – you’re retired )and President Trump is in office). And that goes to show – what exactly? – I don’t quite get your point.

  64. Barnard says:
    @Thomm

    The 2016 margin for Trump was very thin. Jill Stein also significantly outperformed the typical Green party candidate, you can make an argument she cost Hillary Michigan as easily as you can that Evan McMullin cost Trump Minnesota. It doesn’t take much of a turnout increase for Democrats to tip the election to Biden and in addition, demographics continue to tip their way. I don’t see evidence that Gary Johnson 2016 voters are trending to Trump in big numbers. Are you arguing Nader 2000 voters went to George W. Bush? I don’t see much evidence of that. Nader potentially cost Gore New Hampshire in 2000 and it swung to Kerry in 2004.

  65. ic1000 says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    NJ Transit, you wrote “Biden has been shrewd enough not to take the bait [of Trump’s inflammatory comments/tweets].”

    Those who are replying to disagree are largely seconding your analysis. I wouldn’t describe Biden as “shrewd,” but his campaign — yes. In an election, what counts is how people vote, rather than how they should be thinking about things.

    Despite the wealth of opportunities for vote fraud that has been created this year, I don’t expect to hear much on the topic. And not just because of the media’s dedication to downplaying and ignoring pro-Dem cheating. The way the numbers are looking, the need won’t be there.

  66. AndrewR says:
    @Thomm

    Vote fraud doesn’t matter because elections don’t matter. Our choices for president are Donald Trump and Kamala Harris together with Joe Biden.* This country will continue to be a circus of a dying empire, swirling down the drain. Enjoy the decline and embrace the Shadenfreude no matter who “wins.”

    *And the “libertarian” who unironically tweets critical race theory. And whatever loon the Greens are running.

  67. AndrewR says:
    @Peterike

    He’s the worst president in history and I hope you’re either trolling or that you’re being paid.

  68. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:

    I agree a political candidate should try not to alienate anyone he doesn’t need to, but Trump hasn’t changed that much in 4 years — he is the reliable pro wrestling heel character, not exactly the heir to LBJ expectation management — so it’d be far worse to start pandering to geezers now. Not on Twitter, anyway.

    And doesn’t your analysis conflict with the other Biden-friendly analysis of 48 months of natural attrition for Trump’s base? The idea that Biden is popular with the non-Black elderly hasn’t been supported over many national campaigns over many generations of non-Black elderly. If the SJW among the remaining old people get over the ennui and malaise of this year to go to the polls, they may say “YOLO” when they arrive and vote against Biden-Harris (I mean that literally, they’ll fail to vote for Biden-Harris whether they meant to or not)

  69. Facebook squelching story making Hunter Biden look bad. Might affect the election, they’re thinking.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/facebook-reducing-distribution-of-hunter-biden-story-in-new-york-post

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  70. Thomas says:
    @AnotherDad

    I actually love Trump’s overall “fire away” style. Our minoritarian “elites” have looted and raped America, trashed the future of our people. They are a parasitic cancer … and Trump’s the only one who has been willing to call “bullshit” on at least some of their shenanigans.

    “Donny from Queens, you’re on the line.” Works for a guy calling in to a radio show or yelling at the TV. Being President takes a bit of a more serious demeanor and response, one which Trump just isn’t capable of.

    1) For an alpha male, he seems awfully sensitive. Bristles at any criticism and gets into pissing matches with people beneath him. Ever heard of “brush it off”? You’re alphas, ignore and power through.

    I’ve heard the phrase “insecure alpha” before. Maybe from Vox Day, who has done a lot analyzing and systematizing the “alpha, beta, etc.” social dynamic. The phrase fits Trump to a tee.

    2) For a successful businessman he seems to really lack focus/discipline. The guys’ got incredible energy, yet at buckling down on many key tasks … lazy. If i’d been so feckless in my career–i wouldn’t be retired, i’d be in a blue vest saying “Welcome to Walmart”.

    It bears remembering that he inherited a real estate investment and development business with which, at least by the turn of the century, he hadn’t actually been all that successful. What he was successful at was branding and media, at which he had the advantage of coming from and being a notable figure in the world’s most significant local media market (New York City). His “business,” as such, since the 2000s was focused more on The Apprentice and the various ways he could market and expand the Trump brand onto a larger number of properties and products he could get paid to put his name on. In a sense, his business had largely become about playing a successful businessman on TV. If you’re looking for a frame of reference to understand Trump’s personality and behavior, it probably makes more sense to think “TV actor” than “businessman.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  71. Jack D says:
    @Thomas

    Many people have said (and there’s good reason to believe) that Trump ran for President not expecting to win but to help with his TV brand and to get himself another TV show. He probably envisioned losing to Hillary (just as the previous two Republican candidates had lost) and having a show on Fox News where Donny from Queens could yell at her every week about how she was mismanaging everything and about how great things would have been if he had won. This explains a lot about how unprepared he was to actually BE the President.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Thomas
    , @Spud Boy
  72. Corvinus says:

    “How is Donald Trump’s campaign to portray Joe Biden as a feeble oldster who should have his car keys taken away and be put into a old folks home playing with the massive voting bloc of oldsters who don’t want to have their car keys taken away and be put into an old folks home?”

    I don’t know, Mr. Sailer, why don’t you offer up some of your ol’ fashioned NOTICING rather than be cagey about it. Of course, the better question is what is Trump’s current mental state as he works with his doctors to hide from voters all of the foregoing using language that positions him as testing negative when medical experts agree that, in actual fact, it is virtually certain his results returned a positive test under CDC guidelines?

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  73. Corvinus says:
    @Thomm

    “Barring massive vote fraud, Trump wins easily, as he should.”

    Except massive vote fraud is a myth. Interesting how Trump has said that if he wins, there was little fraud involved, and if he loses, there was a great deal of voter fraud. There is an obvious disconnect there, friend.

    “This leaves us with…..vote fraud. That, alas, is a problem.”

    “But many others have crossed over..Biden cannot get the same effect just with Harris.”

    Indeed, for Biden. And, yes, he can.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/politics/women-voters-pennslyvania/index.html

    https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-09-29/biden-opens-23-point-lead-over-trump-among-women-in-pennsylvania

    “This leaves us with…..vote fraud. That, alas, is a problem.”

    You mean, this?

    https://www.ocregister.com/2020/10/11/unofficial-ballot-drop-boxes-popping-up-throughout-the-state-worry-elections-officials/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    In a photo posted to social media last week, a young man wearing a mask with Orange County congressional candidate Michelle Steel’s name on it is holding a mail ballot and giving a thumbs up next to a box about the size of a file cabinet labeled “Official ballot drop off box.” The post, from Jordan Tygh, a regional field director for the California Republican Party, encouraged people to message him for “convenient locations” to drop their own ballots. The problem is the drop box in the photo is not official – and it could be against the law.

  74. For what it is worth, Joe Biden’s Facebook page has about 3.1 million likes. Trump’s Facebook page has about 30.1 million likes. That has to mean something.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  75. Thomas says:
    @Jack D

    It could be, but then I don’t get why he hustled so damned hard in 2016 to squeak out such a narrow and unexpected victory. Could he ultimately just not stand losing at anything? Did the insane, corrupt backlash he provoked from the Democrats and the prestige media just push him into saying “fuck you then, I’m not playing around anymore” at some point? I do feel as though he’s largely run his presidency as an extension of his media and celebrity image, rather than subordinating those things to the needs of the office, to his great discredit.

    Anyway, it just goes to further show what an incompetent and unlovable figure Hillary Clinton was. I always wondered why the parties didn’t have some means to take perennial loser candidates (Hillary, Romney, McCain) aside and finally tell them “kid, this ain’t your night.” Just nobody available who can puncture egos and ambitions that large?

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @Escher
  76. Muggles says:

    Here’s a recommendation for Mr. Sailer for his “right before Nov. 3” column. Maybe he’s planning to do this already, but:

    Just put out there for each commentator to list his/her/there/ter etc. prediction for the likely winner of the presidential race.

    So despite everyone’s disagreements about who will win, let’s see the tally the day before. No hiding or waffling. Close commenting thread at say, 9 PM Pacific Time.

    On Tuesday we will know, probably. Correct predictors will crow, incorrect savants will have explanations. Russians, bots, lying media, magnetic pole shifts (my fave), etc.

    What say all, and Mr. Sailer?

    • Replies: @Dissident
  77. Thomas says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    “Superior killer/king Trump genetics,” he’d probably say.

    Maybe that should be a criteria for reelection: if the life isn’t getting visibly sucked out of the President by the job, they’re slacking.

  78. @Travis

    Correct,

    The apparent senility of Biden is a strength of his campaign. Everyone knows he is losing his mental capacity. This makes him more appealing to the hate whitey groups, so they can vote for Biden , knowing this is a vote for Kamala.

    Maybe he is faking his senility to attract the radical leftists. It seems to be working.

  79. No0biE says:

    Sweden has proven that COVID isn’t very dangerous, period.

    The hysteria peddled amongst many in the hbd-sphere was pathetic. GC was acting like it was practically a civilization-ending event. When you have a hobby-horse, i guess…

    Next time you guys find yourselves on the same side as the likes of Don Lemon, maybe pause and reflect a little more.

  80. Travis says:
    @Spud Boy

    another factor which should help Trump this year is the Libertarian candidate.

    In 2016 the Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson, received 4.5 million votes, triple the number of votes he obtained in 2012 when he also ran as the Libertarian party candidate. Most of these excess votes were from Never Trumpsters and other open border Republicans.

    No way does the libertarian candidate get over 2 million votes. this year. Trump should gain a million votes from the fools who voted for Gary Johnson 4 years ago.

    This could be the difference in some states, such as Minnesota, where Gary Johnson got ~4% of the votes in 2016 and just 1% in 2012. Trump lost MN by 40,000 votes four years ago. Gary Johnson got 115,000 votes in MN in 2016. If half of these go to Trump he wins MN this year. The Libertarian will not break 50,000 votes this year in MN. in 2012 they got just 35,000 votes.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  81. @Anonymous

    I don’t disagree, #347. I mentioned getting prepped up. The SHTF cultural-wise will happen a lot more quickly with Kamel-Toe, versus with Trump, don’t you agree? Do you want more time or less time?

  82. Spud Boy says:
    @Jack D

    “He probably envisioned losing to Hillary (just as the previous two Republican candidates had lost)…”

    When was the last time the Democratic party held the white house for more than eight consecutive years? FDR / Truman. Their policies are not popular, and you can only fool people for so long.

  83. Anon87 says:
    @Corn

    They basically don’t or can’t vote now. I’m sure some nurse does the honor for them. Not saying that this is good, but your average 90 year old isn’t “voting”

  84. @HammerJack

    They’re in danger of invoking the Streisand Effect.

    “The Post’s primary Twitter account (@nypost) has also been locked because the Hunter Biden stories violate its rules against ‘distribution of hacked material,’ per email we received from Twitter,” he wrote.

    Funny that the NYT posting hacked info on Trump’s tax returns didn’t give them pause.

    But they completely locked the New York Post twitter account in a flash.

  85. Anon87 says:
    @ATBOTL

    That is true for the most part. Alt or further right seem very “blackpilled” and have given up. Others don’t believe the polls because of 2016. Oh but 2020 is different than 2016! Hillary was a terrible candidate.. but Biden isn’t? Then there are the huge Trump rallies compared to Biden events with less people than your average garage sale. But the polls have a wipeout! But new voter registration is way up +R in battleground states (thanks Ryan Girdusky for the data). Then the daily stories of botched ballot print and insertion jobs combined with ancient voter rolls loaded with the dead (unfortunate goofs mixed with pure incompetence) and destroyed ballots (complete voter fraud). Trump is up with Hispanics and blacks, but down with whites! WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!?!?

    My only guesses:

    1) Both sides claiming a landslide are delusional. It’s not 1984 anymore and our country is permanently split in half when it comes to presidential elections. It’s going to be tight until demographics flip completely and the banana republic tribal elections take over.

    2) If anyone thinks we are going to know who is president the day after the election is also delusional.

    3) Suicides and ODs hit record numbers. There was the joke about WuFlu being a “Boomer Remover”, but 2020 overall is going to be the “‘Murica Murderer”.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  86. Anon87 says:
    @AnotherDad

    “Brush it off” – I can’t seem to find the video, but there is a good one of Babe Ruth getting hit by a pitch, and instead of charging the mound or losing his temper, he literally brushed it off like he was swatting a fly and trotted to first. Begone from me you puny pitcher, says the greatest player ever!

    Trump is Trump though. He likes to tangle, even when he shouldn’t. Scot genes I guess.

  87. Anon[345] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Yes he’s the archetypical American loud mouthed dumb cunt isn’t he and you love him for that don’t you?

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  88. @Anon87

    Biden might be pretty good at campaigning. Hillary couldn’t put Bernie away and had to grind out a win on points. Biden knocked Bernie out.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    , @sayless
  89. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @sayless
  90. @Anon

    I’d like him a whole lot more if he were a bit more civilized, not to mention effective.

    Most of his (admittedly brief) political career has consisted of supplying ammo to his detractors.

    • Agree: Liza
  91. Muggles says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    Re: Trump not aging like some past presidents.

    He doesn’t drink or smoke and takes very few drugs or even supplements.

    Seems to handle stress very well, and maybe even enjoys it. That sure seems like it. Who else intentionally riles up the press mafia or other questioners? He laughs and smiles at hostility. Keeps him young.

    Also as others note, could be genetics also involved.

    Maybe playing golf is the true secret to longevity. Though I’ve been to Scotland and it didn’t seem to be full of youthful looking old Scotsmen. Maybe it’s the whiskey that ruins it…

  92. Muggles says:
    @Travis

    No way does the libertarian candidate get over 2 million votes. this year.

    I fully agree. The LP candidate has been invisible to me this year. No media, nada.

    Their national newspaper hasn’t sent me an issue in five months. Nor a letter/fundraising mailer.

    Mostly I think it must be total incompetence (I know way too much about that subject.)

    In my more conspiratorial moments I think that maybe Trump/GOP has engineered the LP this year to run a nobody candidate (nice lady, but…) and a literal clown for VP. On the other hand, this Party has been known to shoot off a few of their own toes before.

    Green candidates also get zero publicity. Both the Dems and GOP have worked to kick minor parties off of ballots this year, but the COVID hysteria made petitioning impossible and courts were mostly sympathetic to them.

    • Replies: @Travis
  93. Muggles says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Biden knocked Bernie out.

    Bernie failed to catch fire this year as other quasi socialists like Mayor Pete and others gobbled up some of his past supporters. Too many women/POC for the same kind of voter.

    Plus, as AOC/Green New Deal and the rest were trumpeted by the GOP as economy killers, the Gray Beards in the DNC realized a has-been socialist candidate like Sanders was just going to poison their ticket. He refused the VP slot.

    So they dried up his money with fear tactics (based on sound reasoning). Biden had virtually zero to do with it, other than marching along to that tune. Has anyone spotted Sanders at any Biden events?

    Even the Dems (the elected leadership, not the stupid kids) realized Comrade Sanders wouldn’t make the Long March to the Electoral College this time.

  94. Jack D says:
    @Corn

    It’s not inevitable to the point where you are non compos mentis. My 98 year old MIL is still sharp as a tack and sharper than most Negroes will ever be in their prime. Maybe it’s like height – most of us lose a little height as we age but if you start out at 6’6″ then you are still going to be pretty tall even if you lose an inch or two. Some people tragically develop Alzheimer’s or senility but others do not experience a large cognitive decline.

    Compare Biden and Trump. Trump has slowed down a little bit but Biden has slowed down a LOT.

    • Replies: @SFG
  95. Travis says:
    @Muggles

    good point.

    Gary Johnson was the GOP governor of New Mexico, thus he was more mainstream than most Libertarian candidates and was able build support by running in consecutive Presidential elections. He was certainly helped by the millions of Never Trump GOP defectors in 2016. Which enabled him to triple his votes from 1.2 million in 2012 to 4.5 million in 2016. The green party only got 1.3 million votes in 2016, but this was triple what she got in 2012 also

  96. SFG says:
    @Jack D

    I’m calling parentheses and (for once on this board) I don’t mean it in a bad way. Higher baseline to decay from. 😉

  97. Mr. Anon says:
    @dfordoom

    There’s plenty of coronavirus hysteria among the young. Where I live the majority of people wearing masks are young women. And they’re the ones who are most disapproving of people who don’t wear masks.

    My guess would be that COVID will cost Trump a lot of female votes.

    A public opinion survey conducted a few months ago, indicated that a significant fraction of the population of America thinks that nearly 10% of the American population has died in this pandemic

    I agree with you about the effect on female votes.

    It may be, as you say, that there is no resentment. Or it may set in slowly. In a few years time, if COVID starts to look in hindsight other than it is cracked up to be now, younger people might begin to resent the old people they were told to sacrifice for.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  98. “Similarly, while it’s objectively true that COVID isn’t very dangerous to non-obese people below, say, 60, and that fact has been covered up, isn’t it also true that there are an enormous number of old and/or fat voters?”

    THANK YOU Steve. Very succinctly put. Now will all you knee jerk libertarians, Trumpists, ageiciders and skinnyphiles take your denialism somewhere else?

  99. @Thomm

    “Since Trump turned out to not be a White Trashionalist,”

    Yeah, since Trump of 16 turned out to be simply using the poor white working class voters that petty bourgeois GOP swine like you could care less about…

  100. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon

    I agree with you about the effect on female votes.

    Women are much more concerned about health issues. Women love going to the doctor whereas men (generally speaking) hate it. Women love visiting people in hospital whereas men have to be forced to do so at gunpoint.

    It’s basic biology. Women have the primary responsibility for caring for children and for caring about family members. It’s right and natural for them to be more worried about health issues compared to men.

    The COVID fiasco is going to reinforce women’s natural tendency to see healthcare as an absolutely critical political issue (possibly the critical political issue). And it’s difficult to see how healthcare in general and COVID in particular being seen as key issues is going to work out well for Trump or the Republicans in the election.

  101. @Anon7

    In Michigan, Biden is outspending Trump 15 to 1

    Looks like they don’t trust the polling.

    A campaign allocates scarce resources where they promise the biggest bang for the buck, and never spends on races / states considered safe.

    These numbers mean MI is still in play, with lots of undecideds who may or may not reveal their actual preference when asked on the phone.

  102. @Thomas

    They don’t consider whether 2016 was a fluke, or whether polling has adapted and gotten better

    Pollsters have always been fumbling with turn-out models etc to ‘massage’ the all-important trendline – the aggregate or ‘poll of polls’. Usually, they revert to sane, realistic models some weeks before the election to save their reputation. (Which is why polls usually converge in the final days of a campaign)

    In 2016, they didn’t do this: they expected Hillary’s support among AA’s to be similar to Obama’s – which was very optimistic, as it turned out. 2020 polling so far looks like a repeat, this time not so much over-estimating black turn-out, but under-estimating white, Republican support. (There may also be some social confirmation bias at work: Trump voters rather not revealing their preferences to pollsters)

    The risk for Biden is to trust the polling and under-estimate his weaknesses (he’s going for Republican Ohio, just like Hillary went for Arizona (?)) If I’m Trump, I spend the final weeks with large rallyes in the battlegrounds (WI, MI, MN, PA, FL, with stops in IA, MO, NC, NH, and Maine’s first district, just to troll B&H) and aggressively start calling Biden the BLM candidate (or have surrogates do that to stay above the fray)

  103. Dissident says:
    @Muggles

    Here’s a recommendation for Mr. Sailer for his “right before Nov. 3” column. …
    Just put out there for each commentator to list his/her/there/ter etc. prediction for the likely winner of the presidential race.

    That could be interesting and fun.
    ~ ~ ~
    For anyone else who finds Trump considerably lacking but nonetheless decidedly preferable to the alternative in the coming election:

    Have you considered that in order not to risk helping to sabotage the President’s chances that it might be best for us to hold our tongues until at least after the election?

  104. Rob McX says:
    @MEH 0910

    Noting the birthdays of dead blacks seems to be a thing now. And what a lot of them there are. Hardly a funeral goes by in the hood without some horizontal-pistoled marksman generating a few more posthumous birthdays to celebrate.

  105. Obvious questions. GOP always prefers lame, non-ideological attacks. Such wussies.

  106. sayless says:
    @Steve from Detroit

    Northop used his model on the last twenty-seven Presidential elections and it correctly predicted 25 of them, the exceptions being Nixon/Kennedy in 1960 and Bush/Gore in 2000, and those were anomalous.

    He gives Trump a 91% chance of winning in a landslide (360 electoral votes).

  107. sayless says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Wasn’t it Elizabeth Warren who knocked Bernie out?

    By the way I wish Trump would cut it out, still calling her Pocahontas. Not a gracious winner. Oh well.

  108. sayless says:
    @MEH 0910

    Floyd would still be alive if he hadn’t ingested (or hooped) enough fentanyl to kill someone four times over.

    I wonder if Derek Chauvin has any hope of a fair trial.

  109. There’s no earthly way that Trump wins. (((They))) have done too thorough a number on him.

  110. @Thomas

    It could be, but then I don’t get why he hustled so damned hard in 2016 to squeak out such a narrow and unexpected victory. Could he ultimately just not stand losing at anything?

    Ding, ding, ding, ding – we have a winner. Take a look at his business career. He’s careened from one thing to another. If there’s a common theme, it’s the need for novelty. For many children of the wealthy, degeneracy is how they indulge this need. Trump is unusual among the children of the accomplished in having built a bigger fortune than his illustrious father, and then topped that by winning the Presidency. Trump may not have achieved Marcus Crassus’s riches, but he has matched Crassus’s accomplishment in becoming consul.

    I have many policy disagreements with Trump, centering on many of the things he promised, but likely lied about wanting to do. However, there is no doubt he is a formidable man, and might have become the richest man in the country had he simply put his nose to the grindstone like Bloomberg instead of flitting from flower to flower. But if he had taken Bloomberg’s path, it’s unlikely he would have become President, because the retail scale sales instincts and skills crucial to Trump’s electoral victory would not have been as well-developed as they actually were.

  111. Escher says:
    @Thomas

    Forget their egos.
    Doesn’t the party want to get its chance at the trough?

    • Replies: @Thomas
  112. Thomas says:
    @Escher

    You don’t make it to running for President unless you have a pretty big ego. The only Presidents I can think of in my lifetime who might’ve been a little less ego-driven were the Bushes. And they had both gotten there basically by lockstep (GHWB’s long tenure in government capped by being Reagan’s VP as a peace offering to the Republican establishment of the time, and GWB’s being a member of the same family). Not that being less ego-driven made them better Presidents.

    Anyway, by the time these people make it to running for President, they’re the leaders of their parties. So there is no one to tell them “no.” If anything, Trump is the exception that proves the rule. He came in as an outsider and took over the Republican Party. Plenty of Republicans tried to tell him “no” and none succeeded.

  113. MEH 0910 says:

    Today, the Babylon Bee has built a fan base among Republican lawmakers and even in the White House.

    Last month, Mr. Trump retweeted one of their stories. (“He does know it’s satire,” said the site’s editor in chief, Kyle Mann. “We are assured.”)

    On Friday, President Trump tweeted a story from an unusual source: The Babylon Bee, a right-wing satire site that is often described as a conservative version of The Onion.

    “Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network to Slow Spread of Negative Biden News,” read the story’s headline. The story was a joke, but it was unclear whether Mr. Trump knew that when he shared the link, with the comment “Wow, this has never been done in history.”

    Emma Goldberg, a reporter for The New York Times, recently profiled The Babylon Bee, and wrote about how the site’s satire is frequently mistaken for reality.

    I chatted with Ms. Goldberg about her article, The Babylon Bee’s habit of skirting the line between misinformation and satire, and how it capitalizes on its audience’s confusion.

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