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A friend writes:

I keep thinking about this comment from iSteve commenter gent:

The real goal of this is to legally pry apart the parent and child relationship.

Society will soon be such that allowing a child to explore or define their own perceived gender, specifically their ability to “express themselves” as that gender, will be considered a human right.

Everything else flows from that fact.

Parents who deny their child’s transgenderism, or potential for transgenderism, will have an enemy in the state (they already do in custody battles you’ve highlighted on the blog).

But transgenderism allows this parent v. child battle earlier than does the battle for LGBT rights, which at least waited until after puberty.

Even more crucial and subtle, child transgenderism plants the seed that children have a “sexual identity” earlier than we previously wanted to acknowledge. Any sort of parenting on the subject of their child’s gender or sexuality, short of allowing allowing them to have sex and watch pornography (e.g. parents now allowing children to view media because of “gay themes”), could soon be a gray area.

A child saying “I want to wear dresses but my dad won’t let me” to a teacher will be what “my parents spank me” was in the ’90s: a reason to call social services.

A friend of mine already has his soon-to-be ex-wife bringing in the county’s Child Protective Services every time he refers to their adolescent daughters as “she.”

On the other hand, is the time right for the bad guys to launch a big legalize-sex-with-children campaign like that of French leftist intellectuals such as Sartre and Foucault in the 1970s? On the one hand, Foucaultism, which works to deconstruct distinctions, such as between black and white, man and woman, and, perhaps not all that coincidentally, child and adult, is now dominant.

On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex. Much of the appeal of transgenderism is to nervous adolescent girls uneasy about this whole becoming-a-woman thing. In the past, young girls tended to associate becoming a woman with being a bride, but now, with pornography ubiquitous, womanhood looks pretty horrifying to a lot of girls.

So, I’m not sure which way it’s going to go.

 
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  1. A small percentage of kids will become sexual playthings for our debauched elites. Under the guise of “child acting,” they’ll get pimped out by Hollywood “mentors” and sent to “Eyes Wide Shut” parties.

    The overwhelming majority will become asexual screen-addicted shut-ins, constantly supervised and chaperoned around by their hyper-protective, anxiety-ridden helicopter parents up through age 25.

    Definitely an arrangement that would be palatable to all parties involved.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Mr. Anon
  2. Nah, it is really just a tiny minority of girls who want to convert into boys and most of them are delinquents or have personality disorders of some kind.

    But unfortunately the medical profession always has people who will espouse anything for money, and there is lots of money to be made by prescribing and manufacturing hormones.

    It must be very distressing for your friend to have such a horrible woman for his ex-wife and to have had children with her.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @James Forrestal
  3. iffen says:

    A friend of mine already has his soon-to-be ex-wife bringing in the county’s Child Protective Services every time he refers to their adolescent daughters as “she.”

    God!

    What a fighter!

    I hope she ends up on our side.

  4. JimDandy says:

    A: Yes.

    There was a war on home schooling brewing, but then COVID hit and then teachers didn’t want to go back to work, so the song-and-dance about how students need to go to school for so much more than the 3 Rs suddenly didn’t serve the narrative. If and when schooling goes back to normal, I expect that home schooling will be targeted bigtime, and the result will be heavy regulation and intrusive mandates for sexuality propaganda and DIE training.

  5. If children can consent to have their genitalia removed, the same logic could be used to justify allowing them to consent to sexual relationships with adults.

    Ultimately, the slippery slope fallacy was itself a fallacy. The slippery slope is real. The right should have held the line against gay marriage, even if it required threats of secession.

  6. J.Ross says:

    I’m not sure which way
    THE DEMOCRATS CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY RESPECT NO PRINCIPLE AND FEAR NO OUTCOME, AND THE REPUBLICANS AREN’T ABLE OR WILLING TO FIGHT THEM.
    hey hey steve psst i know which way it’s going to go pretty sure it’s going to go the exact same way as everything else i am delighted to be corrected in this

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @tyrone
  7. J.Ross says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Slippery slope is a fallacy for normal humans and a strategy for Saul Alinsky and his disciples.

  8. t says:

    OT prop to Chicago Alderman Raymond Lopez; Lopez is gay my guess is he didn’t get along with the gangbangers in school.

  9. So, I’m not sure which way it’s going to go.

    We all know which way the dominant culture is going to go. Plural marriage, transgenderism, elimination of age of consent laws and all the rest of the degeneracy.

    People who love the country and love their families will create as much distance as they can between their families and the degeneracy of the dominant culture. This requires social media boycotts, geographic separation and as Mr. Pinsen says secession if possible.

    • Agree: Travis, Forbes, AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Captain Tripps
  10. J.Ross says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    It is pointless to respond to trolls but nobody cared, nobody cares, nobody will care, about children, be they confident or otherwise, least of all in government and CPS. Our leaders are pedophiles and our policies are to enable pedophilia, with the one constraint that people still remember a different time (when pedophilia was wrong), and must be given “noble lies.” Whether or not there are X number of kids with Y characteristics has no place in the equation.

    • Replies: @Easy Pete
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  11. So much of this could be avoided if people would drop the idea that superficial behaviour such as liking bright colors makes you a girl and liking sport makes you a boy. I’ve read accounts by transgenders who cite such flimsy factors as proof they’re really the other sex. This is why I think some of the trans madness is a backlash against feminism because first and second wave feminists fought against such limiting notions.

    There’s been some interesting speculation here about some of it being driven by an anti-sex strain in society which is also an intriguing notion. I suspect there’s more than one faction.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  12. WWT is also a gateway to the transhumanist agenda.

    The Left’s constant defense of abortion is an attempt to pry apart the reproductive and pleasure functions of physical intimacy.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @3g4me
  13. @Dave Pinsen

    Well, the Woman Who Would Have Been President Except For Trump, and The Notorious RGB, both co-wrote papers arguing age of consent should be lowered to 14. Michael Barone pointed out they were never asked to walk back those positions.

    • Replies: @Bronxite
  14. Anon[158] • Disclaimer says:

    This crap is coming to Japan at an alarming pace.

    NHK, the national broadcaster to which we all are obligated to pay monthly fees, seems to be really pushing it, and it burns me up to have to subsidize them.

    From the Japan Times, an English paper:

    Debate over preschool teaching of gender identity issues in Japan
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/04/15/national/social-issues/preschool-gender-issues/

    Kyodo wire service

    [MORE]

    OTSU, SHIGA PREF. – Nursery schools and kindergartens in Japan are struggling to teach preschoolers about sexual minorities, a challenge highlighted by the case of a 6-year-old boy who stopped attending a nursery after being bullied for dressing in girls’ clothing.

    The boy was enrolled in a municipal nursery school in Otsu, Shiga Prefecture, in April 2019. His parents later learned that he was being taunted by classmates, who would call him names such as “boy-girl.” In barely legible handwriting, the boy scrawled “left out,” “beaten up,” “go away” and other messages on a piece of paper he showed his parents.

    But when the parents consulted with the municipal government, they were told that “bullying did not apply in this case” since a law aimed at preventing school bullying was only applicable to elementary school students and older.

    After the parents’ repeated pleas for the situation to be addressed, the city in November 2020 admitted the presence of bullying at the nursery and apologized that its “response to the problem had been inappropriate.” By then, however, the boy had refused to go to school for nearly a year and a half.

    There’s a photo of the text of a primitive letter written by a bullied preschooler and then a photo of a little girl in a “Change is Possible” sweater.

    The solution: Make the kid wear boys clothes. It’s a preschooler. He wears what the parents make him wear. I realize, from reading The Man Who Would be Queen, that this kid is probably gay, maybe trans, maybe normal hetero, but Michael Bailey pointed out that the mild “conversion therapy” of forcing these kids to act their sex in public has the result of making them masculine gays, who have much happier lives than femme gays.

    The only hope I see for Japan, whose people do not want to be “mean” to anyone, is pointing out problems for children, from kids of gay couples who have no mom or no dad, to kids being harmed by this kiddy tranny stuff. If only one of the commercial broadcasters would adopt the anti-tranny side. One problem is the presence of various popular trannies, cross dressers, drag queens, and gays in variety media.

    And more:

    Taking the gender out of Japan’s school uniforms
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/12/20/national/social-issues/genderless-school-uniforms-japan-lgbtq/

    The gist is girls should dress like boys, which I suppose is better than boys dressing like girls.

    People changing registered gender rising at record pace in Japan
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/01/04/national/gender-change-japan/

    Olympics as game changer for Japan’s LGBT rights
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2021/02/03/commentary/japan-commentary/olympics-lgbt-2020-tokyo-olympics-covid-19/

    The Olympics is always a pressure point for countries becoming more international, like the Don’t spit in public campaign in China, and the partial elimination of (reverse) swastikas to represent Buddhist temples on maps and signs (hopefully this is only temporary). But activists are pushing for some sort of pro-LGBT law in Japan in the next three months. Russia resisted; hopefully Japan can put on the brakes at least.

  15. I suspect that it mostly has to do with a financialized economy given to rent-seeking, although it is not helped along by the priorities or “free market” “hands off” “principles” of GOP elected officials.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  16. On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex.

    Or you may have gotten old, Steve. People in general aren’t anti-sex.

    iSteve commenter gent:

    The real goal of this is to legally pry apart the parent and child relationship.

    America’s “most foremost public intellectual” of 2013 in 2013:

    We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities …

    David Brooks last year in The Atlantic pushing the ‘polyamorous’ family child predator option:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/heckman-calls-out-chetty/#comment-3863646

    The Nuclear Family Was a Mistake

    The family structure we’ve held up as the cultural ideal for the past half century has been a catastrophe for many. It’s time to figure out better ways to live together.

    TLDR: Brooks waxes nostalgic about extended families and “tribal bands” and thinks a new polyamorous(?) collection of “chosen families” and “forged families” is the way to go. Yeeek.

    Brooks:

    This is a significant opportunity, a chance to thicken and broaden family relationships, a chance to allow more adults and children to live and grow under the loving gaze of a dozen pairs of eyes, and be caught, when they fall, by a dozen pairs of arms.

    • Replies: @Andy
    , @Escher
  17. Mr. Blank says:

    I concluded a long time ago that some form of adult-child sexual relationships would be legalized within my lifetime. It might not be formal legalization (at least at first), and they’ll probably still make some minimal effort to enforce the law. But it’s coming.

    It will probably be a bit like legalization of weed, where they gradually carve out exceptions (“you can’t tell Muslims not to marry kids; it’s their culture, you bigot“) and stop enforcing the law in bits and pieces until one day we’ll wake up and the argument will be, “well, it’s already de facto legal in most cases, so why keep up the charade?”

    That’s where we are with weed: It’s still “illegal” in the sense that you can still go to jail for it if you’re a knucklehead about it. But for people who are highly motivated to stay out of jail and good at navigating loopholes, it’s effectively been completely legalized. Eventually, people will get tired of this is-it-or-isn’t-it farce and just make it completely legal.

    I mean, I just don’t see any natural stopping point that will keep things from ending up there. The only thing I can see that might prevent it is a sharp societal turn towards sexual puritanism (which could conceivably come from the left, although I don’t see that happening). Who knows — maybe there will be a huge worldwide Christian religious revival. I’ve already seen stranger stuff come to pass during my lifetime…

    • Replies: @Jake
  18. Yes, I remember this recent comment from Gent, Steve. This is even more discouraging for those men wishing to get married, in normal times, most of them, but this is just another thing you’d be gambling on. The wife can cause you trouble in all sorts of ways, but this is a new one, and a doozy. I’d say “pick carefully”, but how are you going to know who’s gonna wig out on you in this respect?

    Actually, it’s not really the wigging out alone. In traditional marriage, the husband is true head of the household, and if some 11-15 y/o (is that the general age range?) daughter decides she may be a boy, the man of the house could just plain put the kibosh on the crazy talk. It doesn’t work that way now. With the threat of divorce and the loss of most property and the ability to raise one’s offspring correctly already hanging over one’s head it’s a thin line to walk. I just wouldn’t want to be the Dad of a teenage girl at all in this day and age. (I wouldn’t want to be an agent of the CPS either, for that matter – I would rightly fear for my life.)

    • Replies: @Spect3r
    , @_Medium_
  19. Oxford sociologist Michael Biggs’s charts showing the explosion in trans language in the output of gay organizations (GLAAD, Stonewall, ect) after the legalization of gay marriage makes me think that trans mania is less a diabolical plot and more simply radioactive runoff from elite and influential charities justifying their own existence.

  20. Neoconned says:

    So in other words…..the pedophiles in power are running a shadow campaign to legalize pedophilia via caselaw and precedent etc….

    • Replies: @Jake
  21. Andy says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Collective child-raising by women with absent men is common in subsaharan Africa. The lack of male parental investment hasn’t done much good to Africa, to put it mildly. It’s weird to me some now see this family structure as “progressive”

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Forbes
    , @El Dato
  22. Much of the appeal of transgenderism is to nervous adolescent girls uneasy about this whole becoming-a-woman thing.

    Hate speech! They’re not girls running in fear from being a woman, they’re boys who are finally expressing their true selves!

    Seriously: can the new religion acknowledge that obvious actual motive for girls transitioning, or would their crimestop kick in? That has implications for which way this is gonna go, as does how secure they feel atop the totem pole.

    If they do feel secure; and if they can’t acknowledge reality, even reality for their own people, i.e. that it’s (in part) about fear of sex: then why not “launch a big legalize-sex-with-children campaign”? They’re “interested in your kids”, as a wise man says.

  23. On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex

    This is underappreciated – perhaps the only aspect of mainstream culture that has become less liberalised over the past few decades relates to female sexuality. The middle-aged man/young girl relationships than used to be an accepted of pop culture (Woody Allen’s “Manhattan”, Steely Dan’s “Hey Nineteen”) have largely disappeared, now where an older guy dates a younger woman, he is seen as a figure of pity/contempt (Connor Roy in “Succession”).

    It would be nice to report that this was driven by conservatives, but we all know it was AWFLs – the Racquel Welchs and Cindy Crawfords who used to appear on the cover of Vogue and Cosmo, have been ditched in favour of a parade of the obese and non-binary, those few women who are still publicly celebrated for their beauty and labelled “sexy” by the media increasingly tend to be in their 40s/50s (J-Lo, Aniston).

    I don’t know where all this is heading, but it’s nowhere good.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  24. Bronxite says:
    @Redneck farmer

    NHK partnered with PBS a few years ago & the malevolent influence is getting worse and worse. The dieverse weather men & excessive number of turd world co-operative venture stories , multi culti food/vibrant expats features do not bode well for traditional japan & its unique culture. Deutsche Welle is much worse , but that is no comfort; and BBC is the worst of all.
    Japan has moslems, mosques, nigerian tout/drug dealers & NHK is really pushing the Halal food aspect.
    The present foreign minister has declared as his goal , a multicultural ,dieverse japan. He is a grad of US Ivy League college.
    Both prime minister abe, and present PM are pushing for more foreign labor , and they will auffer the fate of Germany , and US ; with private profit for some & public monetary and social costs for us, the average tax payer being extorted to find our own doom.
    South Korea also suffering from the same problem; with many Ivy League exchange student grads returning to destroy their homeland.
    Not nice- sad.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  25. Jake says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Considering the number of super rich who now have revolving underage sex ‘partners’ and, more important, the number of middle class sex tourists who ‘rent’ the underaged ‘sex workers,’ my guess is that the future will mean large numbers of children, with a huge increase among boys, will become playthings of those wealthy enough to pay.

    The only way that does not come to pass is if somehow we can overturn at least the gay part of the sexual revolution.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  26. Jake says:
    @Mr. Blank

    The Left cannot turn toward sexual puritanism because the Left had become defined by being pro-sexual revolution by the dawn of the 1960s. The Left cannot turn toward caring even a teeny little bit about the working class whites, much less downwardly mobile middle class whites, because the Left became defined by being 100% pro-non-white and 100% virulently anti-racist no later than the close of the 1970s.

    The Left is far more likely to be ready to support non-whites being granted white children to have as sex slaves than to stop the madness of the sexual revolution.

  27. Jake says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    AMEN! The Slippery Slope is real.

    Sophists always talk about the slippery slope fallacy.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  28. @JimDandy

    I’ve seen home schools, operated by highly educated parents, wherein the students were permitted, if not encouraged, to embrace the whole gender opposite thing, watch graphic i’net porn, etc.

    Don’t be so quick to condemn. The kids were all accepted to elite, private colleges.

    I kid you not.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  29. Pericles says:
    @Blue Collar Mike

    No, that’s like believing gay marriage was like totally organic. Have you heard of Jennifer Pritzker?

    https://archive.ph/SxmBR

    • Replies: @Danindc
    , @Lurker
  30. Mike Tre says:

    “The real goal of this is to legally pry apart the parent and child relationship.”

    This effort started once they started allowing female minors the ability to receive abortions without parental knowledge, let alone consent.

  31. @JohnnyWalker123

    The overwhelming majority will become asexual screen-addicted shut-ins, constantly supervised and chaperoned around by their hyper-protective, anxiety-ridden helicopter parents up through age 25.

    Japan is so far ahead of us in this that they have a language for it– otaku, mote, hikikomori, sōshoku danshi, Kakumeiteki Himote Domei. And that’s with a lot less feminism to encourage it.

  32. @Dave Pinsen

    The slippery slope is real. The right should have held the line against gay marriage…

    Sodomogamy was at the bottom of that slippery slope. Choose your own top– desacralization, divorce, or whatever.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Dissident
    , @Dissident
  33. Is the Goal of World War T to Pry Apart

    Old joke from one of the Lampoons (Harvard or National):

    Q. How do they separate the men from the boys on Mykonos?

    A. With a crowbar.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  34. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Indeed. Martine Rothblatt explicitly said so. Then you have this: https://reason.com/2021/04/15/scientists-have-created-human-monkey-embryos-and-thats-ethically-ok/

    Christian culture protects life from conception to natural death for a reason. A family is a natural protection against the State.

    Those greatresetters want atomized, barely human serfs to sustain their super enhanced, super rich, superhuman lives. The family and the sacredness of life stand in the way. The time of the orc is here.

    I almost wish the Antichrist was here, just to get this mess over with.

  35. The real goal for the last two generations has been to eliminate any mediating institution between the individual and the State, with the State broadly defined as the real centers of power: the Party, the Bureaucracy, the Academy, the Press, and the Entertainment-Influence Complex. The Family is a mediating institution, one among many. It has been targeted before and will be targeted again. In China, they sterilize women and open concentration camps. Here, they advance the transgender agenda, among their other works. Same system, different window dressing. The State will continue down its path until either the State crumbles (likely due to its own ineptitude, corruption, and wickedness – think the USSR 1989) or Society rises up against the State (unlikely without a prior moral/spiritual revolution – think Poland 1989). Until such events, we will slouch toward Gomorrah. Perhaps towards its fate as well.

    • Agree: Forbes
  36. Danindc says:

    Life’s one big test and it’s getting harder. 40 years ago if you’re a shitty parent your kid smokes and drinks and cusses. Now he transitions and you lose custody.

    So parents have to get better.

    Want your kids to be safe in school? Work harder and get them into safe schools.

    It’s a test! Hope you’re up for it.

  37. Danindc says:
    @Pericles

    Have I!! I’ve got this photo on my bedroom ceiling!

    • LOL: Forbes
  38. @JimDandy

    Sorta like how the Nazis got so desperate at the end they started SS units of A-rabs and Slavs and other previous “subhumans”.

  39. @Reg Cæsar

    I remember it from the NatLamp but likely originated at Harvard.

    When watching LOTR I back in 2000, when Elrond admonishes Sam ” It is hardly possible to separate you from him, even when he is summoned to a secret council and you are not,” I turned to my pal and we said “Crowbars.”

  40. MB says: • Website

    It’s all a front. The family is a natural bulwark and alternative in respect to leviathan. Anything Big Brother can do to damage, if not destroy the family is fair game. Homosexual “marriage”, transgenderism, abortion etc. They’re all tools and pawns in the game for power for the beast from the sea.

  41. JimDandy says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    So, what you’re saying is: some home-schooling curriculums are just as demented as the woke public and private school curriculums?

    So what?

  42. Whiskey says: • Website

    A couple of observations.

    A. Steve your friend is a beta male and being punished for it. His soon to be ex-wife HATE HATE HATES him and the daughter she had with such a genetically inferior man (she found out too late) and so is insuring that his bloodline dies out even if hers does. Hell hath no fury like a woman for a beta male. Had your friend been a psycho killer his wife would do anything for him. That’s how it works — women are the natural and eternal enemy of the beta male and always have been. Women would rather have no descendants than have them intermixed with beta male genes. Duh.

    B. The African way of raising kids of single mothers with often multiple kids with multiple fathers is superior to the nuclear family, full stop. African fertility continues to climb while everyone else is collapsing. Even Muslims are suffering TFR collapse below replacement: Iran, Tunisia, Algeria all below 2. Clearly sexy dominant men with the IQ of a sponge and no interest or ability in male provision is the way to go. Who is conquering who? Tech gave Whites an early lead but superior low iq genetics won out in the end as Europe is inevitably just Africa with snow. No woman ever pined or got tingles for a smart guy. That stuff matters.

    C. Kids who are attractive will be simply separated out from their families and whored out to the various gay or straight power barons of hereditary positions. Think the Clinton, Bush, Murkowski, Obama, Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer clans and their leaders. Already most seats and positions are hereditary, with say Liz Cheney inheriting her father’s seat. See also the Kennedys.

    That’s been in the cards for years. There is that photo of Bill Gates and Bill Clinton with their arm around a 14 year old girl whored out by Epstein on his island. That’s the future in store. Of course, it depends on mercenaries paid to enforce this, as the Hereditary Elite have no martial virtue but fancy themselves street fighters as Pelosi drunkenly stated a while ago.

    Pelosi, Clinton etc. can make this legal/mandatory. If they have force of arms to make it stick is another thing. Hence the gun control. Make sure they are nice and safe from retaliation for making a father’s 13 year old daughter their whore plaything to be discarded. Taxi Driver is certainly on their minds. They don’t want any Travis Bickles. Most of them saw that movie and figured it was a tragedy, paradise ruined by a vengeful dirt White man.

    Really, the amount of verbiage spilled over how much they want the squalor, the seediness, the violence, and the constantly available sex from very underage girls is revealing.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  43. Lurker says:
    @Pericles

    On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex.

    It’s only anti-heterosexual sex. The narrative is that its icky and weird. All the other increasingly freakish degenerate crap is designated as normal.

    The Agenda rules dictate that boring cis normies only have sex, LGBTQ have lurve.

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
  44. @Blue Collar Mike

    I used to be on a SJW mailing list and I saw some of this. When it became pretty clear that gay marriage was going to be achieved the articles about transgender rights starting running, so I agree that for some of the campaigners it’s a case of ’cause-of-the-day’. But that doesn’t really explain why government and medical institutions came on board so rapidly. There’s a huge difference between letting 2 adults marry and monkeying with children’s bodies, not to mention rolling back women’s rights in order to appease the MtF adult transfolk.

    • Replies: @CCG
  45. Anonymous[735] • Disclaimer says:

    There is a falsehood being spread that puberty blocking drugs simply “delay puberty.” This is not true. They wreck bone health permanently, cause permanent infertility, and generally wreak havoc on health. The bone angle should be hammered harder by those of us who care about children and still believe in debating these people.

    At the same time, please understand that it doesn’t really matter if the larger society goes full French pedo. What they are doing now is already many bridges too far. They won’t be talked back or reasoned with. We don’t need to wait and see if they go full pedo to know we are no longer a part of their tribe. Disassociate with this sick society. We should be forming breakaway parallel societies like the Amish or the Muslims. Stop caring what “America” does. It is the Beast and it is our enemy.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Goddard
  46. Unless the jurisprudence that creates a cause of action for a violation of the 14th amendment for a deprivation of the parent-child relationship, I don’t see this happening.

    Unfortunately, a state is not a “person” under 42 USC 1983, so that could throw a monkey wrench into that constitutional right. Counties, cities, and individuals acting under the color of state law, however, are fair game for litigation.

  47. Mr. Anon says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The overwhelming majority will become asexual screen-addicted shut-ins, constantly supervised and chaperoned around by their hyper-protective, anxiety-ridden helicopter parents up through age 25.

    That also fulfills the globalist agenda that most people shouldn’t reproduce.

    The elites – and by that I mean “the ultra-wealthy” (our new hereditary nobility) – seem keen to recreate, on a World-wide scale, the caste-system that the Aryan overlords imposed on the Dravidian masses they conquered.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  48. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Ultimately, the slippery slope fallacy was itself a fallacy. The slippery slope is real.

    Aye. The Slippery Slope is not a fallacy…………………….. it’s a tactic.

    • Agree: AnotherDad, Dave Pinsen
  49. Whitehall says:

    My projection of the LAST legal taboo to fall?

    After trans-sex, gay marriage, polyamory, etc, etc, are accepted by our elites and in the law, the final prohibition?

    Eating dogs.

  50. Easy Pete says:
    @J.Ross

    They really aren’t with any more frequency than other groups. You just say that because you want to de-legitimize the elites by means of accusing them of being sexually debased.

    earlier than we previously wanted to acknowledge

    This is not a rational statement. If you have admitted that you know that they are sexual, and wish to have a correct model of human behaviour, you should acknowledge what you have admitted. Humans, just like all primates, are erotic and exhibit sexual social behaviour at all ages. It is upon you to justify every sexual restriction placed on children. If you want these sexual restrictions to remain, you have to explain why they are needed despite the well known link between sexual expression and mental wellbeing. Celibacy is a risk factor for adults.

    • Troll: TWS
    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
  51. On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex. Much of the appeal of transgenderism is to nervous adolescent girls uneasy about this whole becoming-a-woman thing. In the past, young girls tended to associate becoming a woman with being a bride, but now, with pornography ubiquitous, womanhood looks pretty horrifying to a lot of girls.

    The gay part of our era (i.e. the part that wants to molest children) is not anti-sex

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  52. El Dato says:
    @Blue Collar Mike

    You don’t much for a diabolical plot except for a few persons with nothing better to do and enough enconomic nous to start saying “Could we do this? … we totally could!” and start actually doing it.

    So it would be amazing if there wasn’t a diabolical plot, really.

    France finally outlaws sex with children under 15 after Duhamel-Kouchner incest scandal reignites age-of-consent debate

    French lawmakers have adopted a law cracking down on sex with children and incest, following a social media firestorm touched off by allegations of incestuous abuse against a prominent intellectual earlier this year.

    The Assemblee Nationale voted unanimously on Thursday to set the age of consent at 15, classifying sex with children under that age – as well as incestuous sex with anyone under 18 – as rape, punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

    In ‘La Familia Grande’, Camille Kouchner accused her stepfather Olivier Duhamel of having abused her twin brother for years, starting when he was 14. She also claimed her mother’s “leftist intellectual friends” – as France24 put it – knew about the abuse, but kept it quiet. The conspiracy of silence apparently included her own father, former foreign minister and Doctors Without Borders (MSF) co-founder Bernard Kouchner.

    Duhamel, a prominent political scientist and TV pundit, has since resigned from public life. Earlier this week, French media reported he had confessed to the abuse to police.

    Kouchner’s book prompted a Twitter user to publish their own accusation of incestuous abuse with a hashtag #MeTooInceste, which has since gone viral in France.

  53. El Dato says:
    @Bronxite

    The present foreign minister has declared as his goal , a multicultural ,dieverse japan. He is a grad of US Ivy League college.

    Japan 1920: “We are too small, we have to build our own colonial empire!”
    Japan 2020: “We are too small, we have to get import help from globohomo!”

    I hope traditional Japan can gets its shit together then.

    Abe was already following US/Krugman economic advice, that’s like drinking arsenic-frosted sugar bombs to get strong and healthy.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  54. Dumbo says:

    A friend of mine already has his soon-to-be ex-wife bringing in the county’s Child Protective Services every time he refers to their adolescent daughters as “she.”

    Is the Goal of World War T to Pry Apart the Legal Relationship Between Parent and Child?

    Perhaps the idea is to further pry apart the relationship between FATHER and child?

    Rare are the fathers who are happy with a “transgender” child, this seems to be a totally 100% female thing. No self-respecting father wants a gay son or a “trans” daughter.

    I think this is being used by women in some cases to get divorce. There is a similar case in Canada, where the ex-husband is being threatened with prison if he does refer to his pre-teen daughter as “she”.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  55. Dumbo says:
    @Goingblankagain

    The middle-aged man/young girl relationships than used to be an accepted of pop culture (Woody Allen’s “Manhattan”, Steely Dan’s “Hey Nineteen”) have largely disappeared, now where an older guy dates a younger woman, he is seen as a figure of pity/contempt (Connor Roy in “Succession”).

    I think this is because it is more “normal” and they hate everything normal. It is common for older men to still be attracted to young fertile females, and it is still common for women to be attracted to the rich and powerful independent of age (well, of course young /same age rich is better, but that’s not always possible). Just look at 100% of romance novels, the love interest of the female main character is ALWAYS some Prince / Billionaire / CEO / rockstar / aristocratic vampire or whatever is high-status, but NEVER a low-status average guy. So if those relationships exist, it’s because some women want it.

    Now, I don’t like Woody Allen nor his persona, but I think that the current negative view of middle-aged man with young woman couple is for other reasons than traditional morality. It comes from the modern feminist view that “every woman, no matter how old or how fat, should have access to an Alpha/rich/famous guy”.

    Also, observe that the negative view of such pairings extends only to heterosexual couples. They do not seem to mind middle-aged pederasts cruising for young lovers (well, there’s the Kevin Spacey case, but perhaps there were other reasons for his blacklisting).

  56. Dumbo says:
    @El Dato

    Well, I guess Japan always tends to follow/imitate the trends of the West, so that does not bode well, given current Western trends. They have resisted for a long time, however.

    South Korea and Japan are essentially American colonies, so I doubt they will resist for much longer. They have the advantage of not being English-speakers, but that is not a protection forever.

    On the LGBTQ front, they seem to more or less have surrendered. Well, even traditional Mishima was gay, so, there’s that. Not being majority Christian, perhaps homosexuality did not have a negative view in Japan. I am not sure.

    On massive immigration, they resisted for long but seem to start bending now. The fact that the present foreign minister graduated at Ivy League is not good. Ivy League is poison these days.

  57. @Wade Hampton

    Increasingly, the elite oligarchs see the dystopian visions of Elysium and Hunger Games as a road map, not a warning. Our elite parade around more and more like the bizarro elite of Panem.

    • Replies: @_Medium_
  58. CCG says:
    @photondancer

    Follow the money. The multiple hormone treatments, surgeries, submitting forms for name changes on IDs like driving licences, etc. means more income for governments and medical institutions. Note that boys and young men are the primary targets for mutilation, so that also means more young women are available for the use of old elites (similar to the ‘Lost Boys’ practice) without interference from their younger male competition.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  59. @J.Ross

    Our leaders are pedophiles and our policies are to enable pedophilia,

    Not likely. Most actual pedophiles seem to be Republicans, often evangelicals. Also the left has been aggressively attacking the pedophiles in their own ranks like Foucault.

    No, Steve is right. The real goal is the elimination of sex as a spontaneous emotion and non-commercial source of pleasure. The radical left of the 60s was mostly loony tunes, but they were right that sexual energy is subversive and not in ways that benefit the puritanical woke left. What better way to control men than to figuratively castrate them by telling them that sexual desire is bad and insulting to women? What kind of real man has no sexual desire? How much of civilization was created by men competing for the attention of attractive women?

    The end game is not pedophiles, it’s eunuchs.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  60. A friend of mine already has his soon-to-be ex-wife bringing in the county’s Child Protective Services every time he refers to their adolescent daughters as “she.”

    How would the STBXW prefer he refer to them? What do the girls have to say about the matter?

  61. @Mr. Anon

    Yeah. There seem to various aspects to the elite agenda.

    -Encourage sterility by promoting feminism, alternative sexualities (gay, trans, etc), punishment of sexual harassers (‘Me too’), living in pods, and childlessness.
    -Encourage people to abandon eating animal products and instead consume vegan meat substitutes, soy products, and various food items full of high-fructose corn syrup. Some have even encouraged bug-eating.
    -Encourage men to become feminine, while women become masculine.
    -Encourage cannibalism.
    -Encourage Occultism (Satanism, witchcraft, voodoo, etc) and mock Christian traditionalism.
    -Encourage people to socialize less in real-life, and instead spend more time on screens/devices.
    -Prepare the public for repeated lockdowns and annual Covid ‘boosters.’
    -Sexualize pre-pubescent children.
    -Institute a permanent surveillance state at home, and permanent war abroad.
    -Promote mass immigration, multiculturalism, cultural demoralization, interracial marriage, and racial&cultural replacement.
    -Have experts (like Bill Gates, Dr. Fauci, and the Rothschilds) usurp power and rule as benevolent “experts.”
    -Utilize celebs (actors, musicians, athletes, models) to promote the elite agenda.

    The ‘Vigilant Citizen’ blogger writes extensively about these topics.

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @dfordoom
  62. Jake says:
    @Neoconned

    Actually, it is that the Sexual Revolutionists in power are slowly accepting the inherent logic of sexual revolution. That is how we got gay rights. Man-boy love is as inherent in sexual revolution as gay is good, once you get to gay is good.

  63. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    Insanely dumb cunt “actresses” are a becoming a driver for this insanity:

    Actress and model called out for championing puberty blockers for trans kids, claiming ‘loads of girls’ were on them in the 1990s

    Actress and model Jameela Jamil has tweeted in support of giving controversial puberty blockers to trans kids, claiming she knew “loads” of girls in school who took them. Her story was swiftly deemed BS.

    Until transgender issues entered mainstream discussion in recent years, few readers had likely heard of “puberty blockers,” drugs sometimes administered off-label to transgender children to buy them time to decide their preferred gender. Mired in political controversy, the drugs’ use in transgender medicine has not been extensively studied, but at least some severe side effects, including brittle bones and malformed genitals, have been reported.

    Jameela Jamil is all in favor of these drugs. “Puberty blockers are not permanent,” the actress, model, and former BBC presenter tweeted on Wednesday. “Loads of girls at my school were on them for very early heavy periods. This was in the 90s. I don’t remember hearing the outcry about how dangerous and evil they were then.”

    I don’t remember hearing about “puberty blockers” in the 90s either.

    • Replies: @anon
  64. Jake says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sodomy declared a right and then rather sacred was not at the total bottom of the slope; pederasty and then the full acceptance of adult/pre-adolescent sex ‘relationships’ is. And we are moving there now.

    You are correct that to get here we had to take baby steps into sexual revolution. They begin with the desacralization of marriage, which is a very quick, almost immediate, part of the Reformation. No-Fault divorce is defiintely one of those steps, a bigger step than even just allowing for divorce for other than extreme reasons.

  65. Jake says:
    @Andy

    It is not weird. It is inherent in Liberalism, which is a replacement for traditional Christian values and cultural norms. The failures of Liberalism only serve to drive the demand for more liberalism.

  66. @Easy Pete

    Here’s my “explanation” for you:

    I don’t care if children are actually little sex fiends. I want perv adults to keep their creepy perv hands off them. In fact, I don’t want teen-agers putting their hands on them either. I’m of the “shotgun” school of father-daughter parenting: Fathers keeping their shotguns in plain view when Johnny Horny comes around to take little Lolita out on a date. And that goes double for anyone who’d try to touch a son of mine. Triple, actually.

    As for the “well-known link between sexual expression and mental well-being,” right! Keep your impulses under control, and you will be a happier human being. Chastity is a virtue. Sex is for holy matrimony.

  67. @J.Ross

    The Republicans are on the other side. On the bright side they’re a small minority.

  68. Spect3r says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    So with all that you (correctly) point out, remind me again why would any sane man want to get married?
    I’m 38 years old, never married, dont have kids… I am happy as happy can be.
    I can do as i wish when i wish (within reason and legality of course) and do not have to worry about some crazy bitch fucking up my life because she woke up on the wrong side of the bed or something.

    Also, remind me again why should any sane person have kids in this “post-modern” western world?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @SFG
    , @Anon
  69. @Dumbo

    Monogamy has a competitive advantage on the societal level.

    Polygamy has a competitive advantage on the individual (sic).

    This is our prison. It is a dilemma.

  70. Two Cents says:

    In Canada’s largest province, Ontario, the attempt in 2018 by the then ruling Liberal Party to change the school curriculum to teach transgendered themes to very young children triggered such a backlash that the Conservative Party actually swept to power for the first time in nearly 20 years. Places that had voted Liberal for generations went Conservative. The first thing the Conservatives did on taking power was kill off the new sex ed curriculum.

    Just beneath the surface, there is widespread skepticism of the official transgender narrative. When the Liberals chose to make an election issue as they did here, they lost badly.

    The same probably true across the US. To borrow one of your preferred terms, transgender issues at the ballot box is an “own goal” that will sink many a left-wing political party if they campaign on it. In some ways, the whole movement is a gift for the political right, as it’s perhaps the only social issue of the last generation or so where they have the possibility for clear-cut victory. They should exploit it fully, and make it a campaign theme.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  71. Escher says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If Brooks means joint families then it’s not so bad is it?

  72. I think for some, especially women, it is done simply for giggles. For the elite it is done for their ancient preference for androgynous servants. Generally speaking average moms seem to be down with mutilating their kids. Dads haven’t had much in the way of parental rights since the sixties, and thus just another nail in the coffin in fatherhood. Personally I think if a child knows what being either gender actually entails, and knows it was born wrong, it should get a job and be considered an automatically adult. No child support for it. Watch mommy dearests become all of a sudden a dear mommy. Why I am at it, what is with the exclusion of the word “it” in tranny world? “It” is the most gender neutral word out there, and we all know the simple word.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  73. In the past, young girls tended to associate becoming a woman with being a bride, but now, with pornography ubiquitous, womanhood looks pretty horrifying to a lot of girls

    .

    People tend to think of pornography as having a negative impact on teenage boys; I’ve never seen much about the effect it has on teenage girls. Whatever it is, I’m sure it can’t be good to see that degradation during one’s formative and developmental years. But OTOH, the push to normalize “sex work” as legitimate might desensitize teens to pornography.

  74. Seeing the pic on the VDare.com page that sent me here, all I can say about the creature in question is: “permanently unemployable!”

  75. @Jake

    The slippery slope is just a scary sounding name for the tried and true tactic of incrementalism.

  76. @Desiderius

    I’m calling into question your use of that rather questionable adjective: “societal.” Was there really anything wrong with the centuries-old, accepted word “social?” “Societal” is another of those word forms made up by Talking Heads to sound smart. They’re wrong; it makes them sound illiterate. I haven’t checked my Funk and Wagnal’s to determine if “societal” is actually an accepted form of the root word “society,” although “social” clearly is. What is the distinction between “societal” and “social?” Is it, as a judge once said, a ‘..distinction without a difference?” If so, wouldn’t the plain ol’ form “social” be better form?

    • Agree: New Dealer
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  77. @Lurker

    All the other increasingly freakish degenerate crap is designated as normal.

    This is because the controllers are addicted to the release impulse.

    They are continually trying to find ways to create more intense impulses for their enjoyment.

  78. @Kent Nationalist

    Indeed. STD’s are up in 2020, despite the distancing and viruses and all that. Guess who the most affected populations are? MSM, or Men who have Sex with Men, of course. The other group is young blacks, who have ridiculous rates of gonorrhea.

    https://www.health.state.mn.us/news/pressrel/2020/std080520.html

    There’s plenty of articles out there about this, and they all like to highlight that it’s a public health problem, not a personal responsibility one.

    This whole “anti-sex” myth is mostly about circumspect middle-class types who don’t want diseases or unplanned babies. Some of us learn from watching the misery of others. Also, the porn culture is truly ubiquitous and horrifying. Blacks in particular need to rein this in and clean up their popular culture.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  79. “A friend of mine … soon-to-be ex-wife … he refers to their adolescent daughters as she.”

    Yet another reason why I’m grateful my ex-wife is not an American and my daughter is not an American citizen. Jelly-inside conservo-American white men are now helpless as society rots. Good luck to your friend.

  80. Stealth says:

    The penultimate paragraph is terribly sad.

  81. @Desiderius

    “individual (sic)”

    I would’ve deployed the brackets [sic], but otherwise kudos.

  82. @Charlotte Allen

    I assume everyone saw this particular gem:

    https://thepostmillennial.com/ex-california-mayor-who-advocated-for-defunding-police-arrested-for-child-sex-crimes/

    Homo pervert, check
    Dope fiend, check
    BLM supporter, check
    Democrat, check
    NYT loves him, check

    What did I miss?

    • Agree: TWS
  83. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Whiskey

    African fertility continues to climb while everyone else is collapsing.

    Fertility rates have already begun to collapse in many African countries.

    • Replies: @anon
  84. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Lurker

    On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex.

    It’s only anti-heterosexual sex.

    If that’s true why are many homosexual men turning themselves into eunuchs by transitioning? Why are many lesbians turning themselves into whatever the female equivalent of a eunuch is?

    Why are boys who are in all probability homosexual encouraged to take hormones which will pretty much destroy their sexual lives?

    I think there is an increasing anti-sex agenda across the board.

  85. @Peter Akuleyev

    “The end game is not pedophiles, it’s eunuchs.”

    The control system that has bewitched Western elites for 2000 + years ritualizes the defilement of children. The destruction of pure spirit is a sacrifice to their god. Eunuchs are favored because real men are protective and will organize a solution that will include the demise of the followers of the blood-thirsty god and the god itself.

  86. p38ace says:

    Now I understand. The point of WWT is to separate the children from parents. Our enemies are diabolical.

  87. Forbes says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    If only the US had “free market” and “hands off” policies. That ship sailed long ago.

    Principles? Politicians have interests–bought and paid for–to get re-elected and continue the gravy train.

  88. Forbes says:
    @Andy

    Progressives are immune to facts and experience, while logical, reasoned arguments don’t enter into it. All that matters is how they feel. If they like it, it’s progressive. If they don’t, it’s reactionary/right-wing/choose your slur. Their endorsement, by definition, makes it good, wonderful, fair–and the course that must be followed by all.

    It’s that simple.

  89. Goddard says:

    Checking in at new doctor’s office yesterday, my pre-school boy standing next to me in clear view, the receptionist asked me to sign a form affirming that I was the one bringing “them” to the office today. I was bewildered a moment. “Him?” I asked, motioning toward my boy. Yes, she said. In the office, the doctor, a specialist in a very narrow area, noticed on my little boy’s thigh, which was not within her area of expertise, a little shiner he had picked up playing. The doctor asked what seemed to me unusually searching questions about the injury. During a 30-minute wait while certain medicines kicked in, I noticed that the TV was tuned to Moana, a very grrrrrrl-powerish film that neither I nor my son liked. My son wanted Paw Patrol, but I found I was unable to turn the channel. Exiting the office from the very back, I noticed that every employee I passed on the way out was female.

  90. Forbes says:
    @Jake

    Since “sex worker” is increasingly a ‘thing’ defended by the left as part of a workers’ rights agenda, and illegal alien immigration (open borders serves as a cover for human trafficking in children and females for sex work) is similarly part of the left’s agenda, any decision ultimately devolves to commerce and money. If a buck can be made, it will…

  91. Goddard says:
    @Anonymous

    We should be forming breakaway parallel societies like the Amish or the Muslims.

    I took my pre-school son to a specialist recently (see my comment elsewhere on this thread). Despite clear anti-male and pro-transgender cues from the doctor and her all-female staff, my son received adequate care, and I was cognizant of the conditioning the office was trying to instill and able to check it. Driving back, I abandoned my old habit of lamenting the degradation of society and instead saw the doctor as an alien with a radically different belief system who was to me nonetheless useful.

    Much more than lament the state of society or attempt to reform the unreformable, good people need to look within, tend their own gardens, cherish their families, and build and protect communities of like-minded people. I for example will never return to that specialist but will attempt to find a replacement who shares my principles, even if I have to drive a long way to the replacement’s office.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @dfordoom
  92. njguy73 says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Yes, keep your shotgun in sight when your daughter’s boyfriend comes by.

    Then a few years later, send her to a college where the sexual assault rate rivals that of a war-torn Third World nation.

    • Replies: @CCG
  93. I’ve always thought pedophilia was much rarer than many people think, and something that people get pretty hysterical about, as in the McMartin preschool case and the Friedmans. I also have never bothered to find out exactly what Qanon is. But the way the ruling class freak out at the mention of it makes me wonder.

    It sounds crazy. How could a whole group of well connected people keep this a secret? We are talking about moral, educated people, respected by society.

    Of course, these same people will tell you the Church did that very thing for years. But you know, politicians, friends of Bill or Epstein, they are good people, so stop talking about it you nutcase conspiracy theorist.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @dfordoom
  94. Dissident says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The slippery slope is real. The right should have held the line against gay marriage…

    Sodomogamy was at the bottom of that slippery slope. Choose your own top– desacralization, divorce, or whatever.

    You raise germane points.

    Many were at best more or less complacent and acquiescent to the demands of the buggery lobby up until it demanded recognition (and even celebration) of the travesty of same-sex marriage. But how much better, really, was teaching schoolchildren that any same-sex union, regardless of what it may be called, can ever be objectively equivalent to a heterosexual one, much less the equivalent of sacred matrimony? Or the numerous instances of manifestly prudent public health imperatives being sacrificed in order not to offend the precious sensibilities of a relatively small subset of the general population who routinely engage in certain inordinately disease-promoting, voluntary practices?

    Would the present, utterly unprecedented penetration of society by patent smut that makes the likes of Playboy look wholesome by comparison have been possible if not for the normalization of the former in the 1960’s?

    Would the likes of Playboy have been possible if not for numerous earlier breaches, such as the normalization of the bikini?

  95. @Desiderius

    Monogamy has a competitive advantage on the societal level.

    Polygamy has a competitive advantage on the individual (sic).

    This is our prison. It is a dilemma.

    Well and concisely stated Desiderius.

    A monogamous sexual norm allows men to trust and cooperate–especially to cooperate beyond a narrow circle of just family/kin.

    Polygamy at any scale–i’m not talking about the king or other BSDs–leaves a bunch of men with no stake in society and ergo tends to exist where there is high violence–and encourage its continuance. Pastoral and herder societies may have it. And they go nowhere.

    Settled agriculture–the path to civilization–societies that put polygamy aside can develop trust at scale. And since their men can cooperate and trust–most men have a stake in the future–and men invest in development (inc. skills and civilized behavior) of their children, these societies both out produce and outfight the low-trust primitive polygamists.

    When i was born, America had civilized sexual norms–appropriate to civilized European people. After the rise of minoritarianism and feminism and “liberation” we have the sexual–and hence family–norms of … Africa. Expect our “civilization” to follow.

  96. @Goddard

    Much more than lament the state of society or attempt to reform the unreformable, good people need to look within, tend their own gardens, cherish their families, and build and protect communities of like-minded people. I for example will never return to that specialist but will attempt to find a replacement who shares my principles, even if I have to drive a long way to the replacement’s office.

    Excellent paragraph Goddard. Excellent thought.

    I–analytic–tend to focus on “what’s going on?”, “what went wrong?”, “how did this happen?”.

    And basically the answer–there are a lot of threads but one stands out–is “minoritarianism”: majorities–especially white Christians–oppressive/evil; minorities oppressed/virtuous. Which was successfully propagandized into the dominant American–and eventually Western–ideology, primarily with the rise of the Jews in American–media, academia, law, politics, culture–society. An ideology which dovetails neatly with the interests of the super-state (“Diversity is the health of the state”) and the super-state party (see Tucker on voting ringers) and with big finance pushing globalization and cheap labor grubbing business.

    Arguing against this evil? Check.
    Lamenting it? Check.
    Being mad about it? Check.

    But the key question we face is “what can we do?” Both politically to turn it around, but also in our own lives to try to insure the survival of our families and race and civilization amidst this evil.

  97. Mr. Anon says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Yeah. There seem to various aspects to the elite agenda.

    One wonders if that isn’t exactly what they talk about at the various confabs of the wealthy and powerful – like Bilderberg, Davos, etc. But, No, of course that’s crazy talk. Those people only gather to barbecue and play Pinochle, and it’s certainly not newsworthy. Which is why “The News” hardly even mentions it when a few hundred of the World’s most wealthy/powerful/influential people gather for a couple of days to hold secret deliberations. Nothing to see there, citizen.

    The ‘Vigilant Citizen’ blogger writes extensively about these topics.

    I used to think he was crazy. Now………..not so much.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  98. @Forbes

    In the interest of pure, mutual understanding: I hope you notice I put such things as “free market” in quotes, before getting around to “principles”.

  99. @Mr. Anon

    Davos churns out immense amounts of publicity about itself.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Mr. Anon
  100. anon[437] • Disclaimer says:

    The prying apart is already underway if you know where to look, Steve.

    Our child started down this path. We found many of the institutions we trusted are actually our sworn enemy in WWT.

    Like our expensive private school. They support and even promote a minor child’s self-identification regardless of what parents want. The teachers are self-appointed cheerleaders for this. If the parent disagrees, the parent becomes the enemy.

    It’s the school’s official written policy to coverup to parents if their minor child is doing this at school. For the child’s safety from family.

    Can you believe it? Keeping sexual secrets: it’s not just for groomers anymore.

    Our relationship to your child takes precedence over yours. Lying to parents is our written policy. You are a presumptive danger to your own child. And don’t forget to send us that big annual fund gift.

    Betrayed Parent

  101. Who’s that Russian Jewish androgenous lesbian who lives with her husband and their wives/husbands/children in polyamory? A few years back, she stated quite plainly that the purpose of all the LGBTQ stuff was to destroy the traditional family.

    So, the answer is, yes.

  102. Easy Pete says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Prince Philip met Elizabeth when she was thirteen. No need for a shotgun then. Maybe your town is different.

  103. @VivaLaMigra

    Societal implies one society among many, which makes it perfect for my point. If you’re trying to condescend you’re headed the wrong direction.

  104. @Spect3r

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    I got nuthin’.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  105. dfordoom says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Yeah. There seem to various aspects to the elite agenda.

    -Encourage cannibalism.

    The elites are encouraging cannibalism? I think you’ll need a cite for that claim.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    , @Anon
    , @BB753
  106. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Two Cents

    The same probably true across the US. To borrow one of your preferred terms, transgender issues at the ballot box is an “own goal” that will sink many a left-wing political party if they campaign on it. In some ways, the whole movement is a gift for the political right, as it’s perhaps the only social issue of the last generation or so where they have the possibility for clear-cut victory. They should exploit it fully, and make it a campaign theme.

    I agree. It was and maybe still is a winnable battle. The cultural Right was and is in desperate need of a winnable battle.

    But it’s a battle that the mainstream Right political parties have no interest in fighting. It just doesn’t excite them the way tax cuts excite them.

    That leaves the field open for the dissident right to exploit the issue. It’s an opportunity for the dissident right to actually win a battle, for the first time ever. It’s an opportunity for the dissident right to actually fight a battle that might gain them some mass support.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  107. J.Ross says:
    @stillCARealist

    >VivaLaMigra:
    Why societal and not social?
    Nice.
    >Desiderus:
    Actually I have a legitimate reason for choosing that word.
    Niiice.
    >StillCARealist:
    MSM = men who have sex with men
    NOICE

  108. J.Ross says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Davos the tourism town publicizes, Davos the conference has the best security in the world.

  109. J.Ross says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Elite pedophiles are a regular feature of minor human interest stories which somehow never get rebroadcast or publicized and have been for generations before Qanon.

  110. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I’ve always thought pedophilia was much rarer than many people think, and something that people get pretty hysterical about, as in the McMartin preschool case and the Friedmans.

    I think it’s very very rare. The hysteria on the subject is totally excessive. It’s a terrible thing but it’s rare.

    Getting struck by lightning is a terrible thing but your chances of dying from lightning strike are very low.

    One of the problems is that most people have zero understanding of statistics and probability. As a result they wildly exaggerate some dangers and underestimate others. People have no capacity for realistically assessing risks.

    Moral panics are always emotional and irrational.

    Children are in much greater danger from the reckless prescribing of things like puberty blockers, and the reckless prescribing of psychiatric drugs.

  111. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Goddard

    Much more than lament the state of society or attempt to reform the unreformable, good people need to look within, tend their own gardens, cherish their families, and build and protect communities of like-minded people.

    Do you really believe you’re going to be allowed to do that?

    More to the point, do you really believe you’re going to be allowed to raise your children in such like-minded communities? Do you really believe you’re going to be allowed to protect your children from the current madness?

  112. @dfordoom

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/katy-perrys-bon-appetit-nod-occult-elite-rituals/

  113. @Old and Grumpy

    Slightly over half of trans surgeries are performed on men.

    So that’d indicate that men and women are roughly equally enthusiastic about trans genderism.

    There are more than a few “dads” out there who’d like to be “moms.”

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  114. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    Really? Have you not heard of someone Hammer?? All the kids know who he is. Real heartthrob. Classic Overton.

  115. Mr. Anon says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Davos churns out immense amounts of publicity about itself.

    The CIA churns out an immense amount of publicity about itself. But do they tell you what they talk about in private?

  116. @JohnnyWalker123

    Okay, but a mastectomy versus getting your entire undercarriage removed and a seething axewound installed.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  117. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Good point.

    Though, honestly, what the freakin hell would possess someone to mutilate themselves like that?

  118. El Dato says:
    @Andy

    It it has made Black Women much more intelligent than Black Men (at least according to my anecdotal evidence), so it’s not all bad.

    There is a PhD in there for studying this particular genetic pressure. At a Chinese University.

    • Replies: @Andy
  119. Spect3r says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Never so few words meant so much. And I do appreciate your brutal honesty.

  120. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:

    “In the past, young girls tended to associate becoming a woman with being a bride”
    But as you have repeatedly pointed out, they have rendered that financially absurd.
    (The point itself is quite astute, IMO.)

  121. BB753 says:
    @dfordoom

    Read up Arthur Koestler’s long essay The Ghost in the Machine, where he advocates cannibalism. The elites have been promoting the same agenda for a century: one-world government, socialism, depopulation, transhumanism, perennialism, trans-genderism, sexual anarchy, etc. Other early globalists: H.G. Wells, Julian and Aldous Huxley, Bertrand Russell, Jonas Salk.

  122. SFG says:
    @Spect3r

    The problem comes with aging. Eventually you get demented or decrepit or both and you wind up in an awful nursing home.

    Of course, that can happen with kids too. But at least there’s a possibility you raise them well and they don’t turn on you.

    I am not really disagreeing with you–I have made the same choice after all, more or less–but pointing out there really is no good answer these days, at least if you don’t think your odds are good enough of picking a reliable wife. And it’s hard–you don’t know what people will become in 20 years.

    As for having kids at all–well, a lot of people seem to like it. I agree the world is dark and weird, but then in the Cold War there was always the fear the Soviets would nuke us, and earlier generations faced much higher risks of early death from disease or war. If you have a few they probably won’t *all* become transgender activists–and with enough of a moderating influence you may actually do some good. If you convince your masculine daughter she’s simply a tomboy, she may come to her senses after the rush of hormones passes and lead a normal life. If you convince your feminine son he’s just not-a-jock rather than a transwoman, once the rest of his frontal lobes myelinate in his twenties he may be able to use his sensitivity to better effect. And if they’re gay, well, at least they won’t mutilate themselves.

    The future belongs to those who show up for it, after all.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  123. SFG says:

    Late to the party…but has anyone read Stephen Baskerville’s The New Politics of Sex? He makes roughly the same argument. I don’t entirely agree with him on all levels–I think it’s more of a desire by the various pressure groups in the Democratic Party to get their interests pushed at the expense of the family rather than a satanic plot–but the effect is the same.

    Also, here’s some interesting examples from Quillette (I know, I know, alt-lite-lite):

    https://quillette.com/2021/04/06/when-sons-become-daughters-part-ii-parents-of-transitioning-boys-speak-out-on-their-own-suffering/
    https://quillette.com/2021/04/12/when-sons-become-daughters-part-iii-parents-of-transitioning-boys-speak-out-on-their-own-suffering/

    My favorite (well, not really, it’s a human tragedy but still kind of funny) was the nerdy kid who assumes he’s a lesbian because he likes lesbian porn and rom-coms. I’d argue in an earlier generation the second would be a weak indicator at best and the first would be, well, pretty normal for a straight guy.

    But it shows how perverted (pun intended) the incentives have become. If you’re a lower-status boy, you might be (temporarily) better off as a transbian–the LGBT club will get you friends (which is so important to a teenager) and possibly even a few lefty girls for whom you’re no longer one of those evil ‘straight white men’.

    Of course once you get older and cut off your genitalia, you’ll just wind up as a weak parody of a woman attractive to neither men nor women and incapable of sexual pleasure. But they tend to elide that, as of course they do.

  124. @CCG

    This is a bit like George Orwell’s argument about every Englishman’s right to keep a pig in his back yard to dispose of garbage and provide bacon at the appropriate time.

    Orwell argued that people were discouraged or banned from doing so at the behest of the large scale bacon industry which wanted to ensure its own profits.

    It certainly sounds like an ingenious argument, and by way of analogy you could argue that the AIDS pandemic was promoted by condom manufacturers, however Orwell’s wife Eileen pointed out that the real reason was that most people did not want smelly pigs in their backyards (or to kill their pets).

    Although the trans movement is supported by some medical lobbies that stand to profit from it, the real reason for promoting a ladyboy agenda is that it provides a distraction to conservatives so that gays and lesbians can fly under the radar while evangelizing their own sexual perversions among young people.

    • Replies: @SFG
  125. @dfordoom

    I agree. The Republican party badly needs to come up with some issues that are popular and worthy, and this could be one even though it is one that directly affects a very small percentage of the population.

    It could replace the right to life issue, which has grown very stale, and we could have future supreme Court justices grilled on where they stand on castration, chemical or otherwise, of minors.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  126. SFG says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    That may be part of it, but I tend to think this is driven by actual transgenders wanting to make their inclinations more ‘normal’, so to speak. What’s new is the big push for surgery and hormones, particularly of minors.

    There’s a long history of this sort of thing TBH, in many cultures–I’m guessing it’s too easy for the ‘wrong’ sexual program to get turned on during brain development. Quite a few societies accommodate it in various ways. What I haven’t seen is the attempt to pathologize normal behavior.

  127. Anon[995] • Disclaimer says:
    @Spect3r

    “There is nothing more extraordinary in this world than an ordinary man and an ordinary woman and their ordinary children.”

    The world speaks to us of pleasure. But we were not made for pleasure. We were made for greatness. That is our true path and our true happiness. Best wishes.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  128. @Jake

    Yesterday diligently wrote a sincere comment conveying knowledge learned the hard way about the insight contained in these two sentences:

    They begin with the desacralization of marriage, which is a very quick, almost immediate, part of the Reformation. No-Fault divorce is defiintely one of those steps, a bigger step than even just allowing for divorce for other than extreme reasons

    .

    My comment has yet to appear here.

    I know notice this:

    Leave a Reply – Comments are moderated by iSteve, at whim.

    Can’t recall feeling such disgust, disdain and disappointment.

    Ron Unz seems to have been for the most part a real sport seemingly maybe only censoring for the truth conveying “#Jews4whiteGENOCIDE” hashtag which he has most recently tolerated just as the ADL showed its loss of poise by accusing Tucker Carlson of IMPLYING.

    iSteve whim is pathetic.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Anon
  129. _Medium_ says:
    @Captain Tripps

    Elysium is the current reality of many third world countries, they are trying to bring that reality here. Hordes struggling every day surrounded by misery and crime and a uber-wealthy few living in total luxury with almost no class mobility possible.

  130. _Medium_ says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Only Anglo white women do this shit. Marry a white Latina or EE woman and your daughters won’t turn out trans.

  131. Escher says:

    Your child belongs to the state, and the state will decide what he/she will become.

  132. tyrone says:
    @J.Ross

    Right!….and if any republican “leaders” sprout up they get chopped down ,much like mowing the grass……..we get asshats like Mcconnell,Mccarthy and lots of Bushes

  133. J.Ross says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    I have comments that quote halachic authorities or review unique movies that get eaten, or which wait three days. Part of the site. Want instant and unmoderated commenting, get thee to a Cambodian basket weaving discussion forum.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  134. Dissident says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The following is a modified, more refined version of the reply I submitted here “1.2 days ago” that as of this writing is still “awaiting moderation”.

    The slippery slope is real. The right should have held the line against gay marriage…

    Sodomogamy was at the bottom of that slippery slope. Choose your own top– desacralization, divorce, or whatever.

    You raise germane points.

    Many were at best more or less complacent and acquiescent to the demands of the buggery lobby up until it came to that of full recognition (and even celebration) of the travesty of same-sex marriage. But what about “merely” teaching schoolchildren that any same-sex union, regardless of what it may be called, can ever be the equivalent of a heterosexual one (let alone the equivalent of sacred matrimony)? Or the numerous instances of manifestly prudent public health imperatives being sacrificed merely to protect the precious sensibilities

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    of this small subset of the general population that routinely engages in inordinately disease-promoting voluntary behaviors? Were either of those, or numerous other affronts to decency and reason that the immensely powerful and influential lobby-in-question has demanded and received, really that much less egregious or pernicious than what you have wittily coined Sodomogamy?

    Consider, as well, the ubiquity of abject smut that, thanks to the blessings of the very technology and ingenuity that many here extol as an end unto itself and even the very purpose of man’s existence on this Earth, has penetrated society to unprecedented scale and degree. Rank obscenity that, by comparison, makes the likes of Playboy look wholesome (and even a lot of hardcore smut of the more vanilla variety less depraved). But would any of the more extreme and depraved of the aforementioned material have gained acceptance if the tamer material, such as Playboy in the 1960’s, had not paved the way?

    And would the latter have been possible if not for numerous earlier breaches, such as the normalization of the bikini?

  135. Anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    Can’t recall feeling such disgust, disdain and disappointment.

    You must live a very sheltered life.

  136. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:

    “On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex. Much of the appeal of transgenderism is to nervous adolescent girls uneasy about this whole becoming-a-woman thing. In the past, young girls tended to associate becoming a woman with being a bride, but now, with pornography ubiquitous, womanhood looks pretty horrifying to a lot of girls.”
    I’m quasi-requoting this as I think it is one of the most insightful things said here in quite some time.
    And I mean that as praise.
    The ultimate weapon against totalitarianism is erotic love.
    Orwell sort of got this right in 1984.
    But I don’t think he even came close to fully exploring the insight.
    If proto-women perceive eroticism as a matter of contriving how to make money as a cam girl, it is liable to seem horrifying.
    All of the “racial crap” is an indirect attack against Western civilization itself. Erotic love is central to Western civilization and it is ultimately central to humanity.

  137. Dissident says:
    @J.Ross

    I have comments that quote halachic authorities

    No doubt always in proper context, with full understanding and appreciation of any of the nuances that typically do not survive translation from the original; with the requisite knowledge and judgment to ascertain just how normative or representative of halakhically-observant Jews the quotes-in-question may be; and in all aspects otherwise, in nothing less-than good faith…

    Just as you no doubt always take great care to do when the topic is Islam

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  138. J.Ross says:
    @Dissident

    I’m sure that was a factor, oh, no, wait, the delay is automatic and across the board. But good on you for believing in ghosts. No way that could be exploited.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  139. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    Jameela Jamil is lying. That’s it, that’s all, that’s what she’s doing.

    15 to 20 years from now, we will know what the effects of poisoning children “puberty blocking” are. They will be ugly.

  140. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    Fertility rates have already begun to collapse in many African countries.

    Which countries?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  141. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anon

    Fertility rates have already begun to collapse in many African countries.

    Which countries?

    Kenya. Zambia. South Africa. Tanzania. Uganda. I could go on.

    Fertility rates in Africa are still higher than in the West and East Asia but they’re declining rapidly.

  142. Dissident says:

    On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex.

    This claim has been made repeatedly for some time now, but are today’s Woke really “anti-sex”, per se?

    but now, with pornography ubiquitous

    If, as you and many others here assert, “our era is increasingly anti-sex”, wouldn’t we have witnessed by now a backlash (one that was explicit and direct) against this very ubiquity of abject smut* that you acknowledge here?

    If anything, hasn’t the anti-pornography strain that at one time was dominant within feminism**

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    been mostly dead for as much as two decades now, if not more?

    (**And which accounted for odd alliances and collaborations with the otherwise ever-dreaded Religious Right.)

    Perhaps some would cite, as evidence of a revival of anti-porn fervor, the purportedly massive crackdown against at least one of the most popular Internet porn sites that occurred last December, just after being featured in an expose` by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristopher. But was there, in any of that, found an attack on pornography or any other form of carnal indulgence, per se? Didn’t Kristof explicitly disclaim any such blanket condemnation, making clear that his only censure was of specific excesses, such as a scourge of underage performers and other patently abusive, and (in some other cases, at least) illegal content, that he was alleging on the part of the site-in-question? (He did.)

    (*Not only is the “mere” ubiquity of the material-in-question historically unprecedented but also its ease-of-access and availability; its abundance of supply; and the rank abjectness of its nature. In a brutally frank interview, an individual who has long purported to possess deep, intimate, behind-the-scenes knowledge of the industry-in-question offered an apt metaphor of the present state-of-affairs: (Paraphrasing, with some embellishment of my own) An open sewer flowing through every city, village, and town. And into every home. An open sewer that all of the male children, and more-than-a-few of the female children play in. A backlash; a crackdown; a reigning-in, is inevitable. It’s only a matter of time.)

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  143. Spect3r says:
    @SFG

    My problem is not my kids turning on me, per se, my problem is watching my own seed being brainwashed, subdued and god knows what else. Unless some serious change happens, we, sane normal people, have lost the war.

    I assume you are in the USA, where you guys have a lot of people and an insane amount of territory, so, I do believe if some of you people really want to, you probably can set up your own sane community somewhere far away from everybody else that hates and despises you.

    But I live in Portugal, a country with a 10 million people total population, that is not much more than a whore with open legs for any and every law/idea/concept that the EU throws at us.
    I have no hope for a better future, I am just trying to live my life as best as i can till my judgement day comes.
    Does this make me weak? Perhaps, and I accept that criticism.
    But at the end of the day, I will rather be seen as weak, than to bring someone to this world just to be a slave.

    Regarding having a wife, I have actually been seeing someone for the past couple of months.
    Nothing serious so far, but is going well so far and is becoming interesting.
    However, I’m 38, she is 40. If we end up in a serious relationship, I am pretty sure that at our age we will not be getting married. Living together, maybe… getting married and procreate? Not likely.

  144. Spect3r says:
    @Anon

    Sounds good, but it doesnt convince me.
    Best wishes to you as well 🙂

  145. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dissident

    On the other hand, our era is increasingly anti-sex.

    This claim has been made repeatedly for some time now, but are today’s Woke really “anti-sex”, per se?

    I think they’re rather conflicted on the subject of sex. They want to be seen to be socially liberal which implies being socially liberal on sexual issues but I don’t think they’re as comfortable with their sexual liberalism as they’d like you to believe.

    The ubiquity of pornography might appear to suggest that young people today are sex-obsessed but it might equally suggest the opposite – that pornography is a substitute for sex. Lots of people enjoy violent movies but that doesn’t mean they’re going around committing acts of violence.

    Being obsessed by sex does not imply being comfortable with sex.

    Anyone who allows a surgeon to destroy his or her genitals or who takes hormones that will derange or even destroy his or her sexual responses does not sound to me like somebody who is comfortable with sex.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  146. CCG says:
    @njguy73

    Attending college away from home isn’t the only option anymore. If a young woman has intellectual aptitude, she can get her degree online. Or be a day scholar at a local college while still living with her parents.

  147. @Jonathan Mason

    Another good issue for Republicans that would be popular would be to relegalize online poker. People need diversions during a pandemic.

  148. Dissident says:
    @J.Ross

    My admittedly confrontational reply to your comment can perhaps best be understood as my having been unable to resist an extremely tempting opportunity to exploit a line-of-attack that you had created and left yourself wide-open to. Some review would seem in order here, in the interest and hope of ultimately providing some elucidation.

    [MORE]

    In response to an individual who had complained about Mr. Sailer’s moderation of comments, you had written,

    I have comments that quote halachic authorities or review unique movies that get eaten, or which wait three days. Part of the site. Want instant and unmoderated commenting, get thee to a Cambodian basket weaving discussion forum.

    From the context, I interpreted you to be implying that the particular examples of comments of yours that you had cited were ones that you considered both (a) wholly innocuous, or at least clearly non-objectionable; and (b) comfortably within the bounds of that which you would imagine and expect Mr. Sailer to readily approve. My sarcastic response specifically took aim at (a).

    Granted, I obviously could not have seen any of your comments that were “eaten”, i.e. actually rejected (as opposed-to ultimately approved but only after an inordinate delay). Nor would I even assume that all of them exhibited all or even necessarily any of the reprehensibleness that my sarcasm alluded-to. To be sure, you would not rank among the worst here with regard to the offenses in-question. Still, I have seen you demonstrate enough of the faults in question so as to find what I described above to warrant my sarcasm.

  149. Dissident says:
    @dfordoom

    Anyone who allows a surgeon to destroy his or her genitals or who takes hormones that will derange or even destroy his or her sexual responses does not sound to me like somebody who is comfortable with sex.

    Cannot argue with that.

    One must wonder, though, how many of such individuals were fully aware of such consequences at the time of making such decisions.
    (Many have predicted that in the years to come, we will see many lawsuits brought by those who have undergone such “treatments”. One can easily imagine the effects you mention, and specifically, a claim of not having been fully informed concerning them, to form at least much of the basis of at least much of such litigation.)

    Perhaps also germane to note here would be the (extremely odd) condition known as autogynephilia, in which, purportedly, a male derives titillation and gratification at the thought of becoming a woman, including and especially, the thought of possessing female genitalia.
    ~ ~ ~
    Thanks for the reply. Your points are all quite valid and I don’t think I would disagree with any of them.

    P.S. Let me also take this opportunity to thank you (and while I am it, anyone else) for any other replies that I may have neglected to acknowledge. (I specifically recall there being at least one or two, and there were likely more.) I generally make a point of checking regularly for replies to my comments, but some can slip my notice now and then. More to the point, to reiterate something I’ve mentioned a number of times previously, I always appreciate civil and thoughtful replies, but regrettably, can be remiss in acknowledging them.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  150. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dissident

    Many have predicted that in the years to come, we will see many lawsuits brought by those who have undergone such “treatments”.

    I think that’s highly likely.

    Perhaps also germane to note here would be the (extremely odd) condition known as autogynephilia, in which, purportedly, a male derives titillation and gratification at the thought of becoming a woman, including and especially, the thought of possessing female genitalia.

    With the trans thing we seem to be dealing with several unrelated phenomena. Ageing men suffering from autogynephilia is one phenomenon. Teenagers claiming to be trans is clearly something completely unrelated. Even among teenagers we’re almost certainly dealing with several different phenomena.

    Among the young there seems to be an obsession with sex but also massive anxiety about sex and fear of sex.

    This is very very different to the Sexual Revolution of the 60s. Whatever you think of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s it was mostly about normal sexuality.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  151. Dissident says:
    @dfordoom

    With the trans thing we seem to be dealing with several unrelated phenomena.

    Or, if not always completely unrelated, at least distinct from each other. Yes. To the extent that I may have obscured that in my previous comment; that I may have implied conflation, I erred.

    Mr. Sailer has himself, in past posts I recall, explicitly enumerated at least two distinct types of “male-to-female transgenders” (older, highly masculine, more heterosexual autogynephiliacs vs. younger, effeminate, homosexual types).

    And that, of course, is before we even get to the “female-to-male” variety.

    Among the young there seems to be an obsession with sex but also massive anxiety about sex and fear of sex.

    For an adolescent around the time of puberty, in any era or society, to be at least somewhat obsessed with matters sexual

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    would hardly seem terribly abnormal. Likewise, for at least some degree of anxiety and even fear surrounding what is clearly a highly-sensitive, charged, and fraught area. (Moreover, such feelings, and particularly any inhibitions they engender, as long they remain in-balance, can even be rather positive and beneficial.)

    (On this particular tangent, some may find of interest this personal account of feelings I recall from an experience during my adolescence.)

    And surely, our age has introduced unprecedented complications, difficulties and challenges such as the ubiquity of pornography of the most explicit and abject kind; all of the insanity created by social media; “sexting”, etc.; as well as the conflict and dissonance between all of those (particularly the degradation and objectification of women (as well as submissive Gay males) that is integral to at least much of even entirely mainstream porn), on the one hand, and then, on the other, the SJW messages of Toxic Masculinity, Rape Culture, Respect Women, etc.

    But, of course, attempting to evade or postpone puberty, mutilating oneself, or otherwise deluding oneself and acting in defiance of what are ultimately inexorable biological realities cannot be considered as any solution.

    Many have predicted that in the years to come, we will see many lawsuits brought by those who have undergone such “treatments”.

    I think that’s highly likely.

    I recall a comment here from a while back, which imagined an argument between someone whose parent(s) had indulged the whim/delusion of his in-question when he was but a child. Paraphrasing from memory:

    Mother: But it’s what you wanted! You absolutely insisted!

    Now-adult child: Mom, I was nine!

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  152. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dissident

    For an adolescent around the time of puberty, in any era or society, to be at least somewhat obsessed with matters sexual would hardly seem terribly abnormal. Likewise, for at least some degree of anxiety and even fear surrounding what is clearly a highly-sensitive, charged, and fraught area.

    Yes, I agree.

    But if the anxiety and fear is greater today than in the past then we have a problem.

    To some extent the Sexual Revolution of the 60s was intended to reduce people’s anxieties and fears about sex. And to a degree it worked, sort of.

    It’s bizarre and disturbing that we now seem to be undergoing a new sexual revolution that is actually making people more anxious and fearful about sex. Maybe ubiquitous porn has something to do with it but I suspect social media is the biggest culprit. It’s difficult to imagine anything more likely to increase adolescent fears and anxieties than social media.

  153. Andy says:
    @El Dato

    I suppose you are being ironic. Black women’s behavior can be as pathological as black men (the recent Knife Gril from Columbus is just an example of this) and is due in great part to the absence of a father in the house.

  154. @Jonathan Mason

    Nah, it is really just a tiny minority of girls who want to “convert into boys” and most of them are delinquents or have personality disorders of some kind.

    Your implicit assumption that it’s somehow possible to “convert” oneself from one sex to another is, of course, badly mistaken. If you can “convert” from one sex to another simply by an act of will, can you “convert” from one species to another? Can furries/ “therians”/ “otherkin” manage to “convert” to other species if they wish for it hard enough? Will taking wolf hormones and undergoing “species confirmation surgery” enable someone to “convert” into a wolf?

    Another false assumption is your implicit claim that this putative “drive for sex conversion” is largely biologically determined, with the omnipresent degenerate pro-tranny messages from semitic mass media playing little or no role, so that we shouldn’t worry about this toxic propaganda, as it will have no effect on this supposedly “innate” desire for “sex conversion.” This is a very… problematic assumption [as the shitlibs would say] — especially in girls.

    Heretical jewess Lisa Littman’s paper raises serious questions about the currently-hegemonic biodeterministic narrative of the etiology of transsexualism:

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330
    …the onset of “gender dysphoria” [sex dysmorphia] seemed to occur in the context of belonging to a peer group where one, multiple, or even all of the friends have become “gender dysphoric” and “transgender-identified” during the same timeframe.

    …their children exhibited an increase in social media/internet use prior to disclosure of a “transgender identity”

    To phrase it in 19th century terms, this looks very much like mass hysteria.

    It’s also very much analogous to the well-documented phenomenon of the “social contagion” of divorce among females in more recent times.

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