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Back in late 1932, the powerbrokers of the German center-right were engaged in a dance with extremists. They didn’t think much of the far-right, but thought their low-brow energy could be useful in helping them defeat their enemies on the left.

And what’s the worst that could happen? No matter who would be (temporarily) chancellor, Hindenburg (b. 1847) would be president of Germany, and that’s all that really mattered.

Similarly, a lot of Establishment Democrats are reassuring their unquiet thoughts about what they’ve unleashed in their pursuit of power with the idea that the whole point is to make Joe Biden President. And, once he’s in the White House, good old Joe isn’t going to let the extremists go too far. He’ll be right on top of the situation, not letting it get out of hand.

What could possibly go wrong?

By the way, during WWI, they put up a 12 meter tall wooden statue of Hindenburg as a war fundraiser.

You paid 1 mark to drive a nail into his statue, 100 marks for a gold nail.

I can’t imagine the Democrats erecting a giant idol of Joe, who is a rather human-scale figure.

I could, however, see Democrats building a giant wooden statue of Joe’s Vice President.

For example:

 
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  1. trelane says:

    What could go wrong? Just look at your Led Zeppelin I album cover.

  2. I give him a year, max, before Stacey sits on him.

    • Replies: @Guy Cabellero
  3. “And what’s the worse that could happen?”

    Should be “worst”.

    No need to post this, of course.

  4. Anon[195] • Disclaimer says:

    Despite realizing that twenty people have probably beat me to the punch …

  5. Anon[195] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    A year old, but I just stumbled across it.

    Says the Washington Post:

    The Statue of Liberty was created to celebrate freed slaves, not immigrants, its new museum recounts
    Lady Liberty was inspired by the end of the Civil War and emancipation. The connection to immigration came later.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/05/23/statue-liberty-was-created-celebrate-freed-slaves-not-immigrants/

    The plaque with the famous Emma Lazarus poem — “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free” — wasn’t added until 1903.

    “One of the first meanings [of the statue] had to do with abolition, but it’s a meaning that didn’t stick,” Edward Berenson, a history professor at New York University and author of the book The Statue of Liberty: A Transatlantic Story, said in an interview with The Washington Post.

  6. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:

    Since we’re talking about the upcoming elections:

    I have bet over $6,700 on Predictit that Trump would win re-election and the Republicans would keep the Senate. I want to bet more, can’t wait for election night.

    Anyone know the odds of whether the Republicans can take back the House? They’re at 17 cents currently; that could be a big win for me.

  7. Sure, but who will the right coalesce around? We’re not allowed to speak, and therefore would have trouble forming a single cohesive national movement.

    Am I wrong about this? What channel of communication would we use that wouldn’t be cancelled when our enemies noticed it?

    I’m picturing an eventual split into regional entities, not a reactionary movement that captures the whole nation’s energy. We have one of those right now, but its nature is (by necessity) revolutionary. The BLM model wouldn’t work for a right cause.

    What Trump did—capturing a leaderless Republican Party and providing it direction with what remained of the Tea Party energy—probably can’t be repeated. We can’t use the internet effectively any more. Strategy should probably be local, with regional goals instead of national ones.

    Think Harold Covington.

    • Agree: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @Alfa158
  8. J1234 says:

    Hey, what about that Joe Biden ad I see all the time on youtube where he misspeaks and uses the word “for” instead of (I presume) “to?” At first I thought it was really sloppy editing (and Joe’s declining mental condition, of course) but I’ve seen it dozens of times over the last couple of weeks. Now I’m wondering if it was the best take they could get from him.

  9. Does anyone know what a Biden presidency would like look? I haven’t found one affirmative case for the man anywhere. The literati’s main points are he ain’t Trump and that he would be easy to manipulate to the left.

  10. So Steve, there was another Hindenburg.

    It crashed and burned right here in America.

  11. Back in late 1932, the powerbrokers of the German center-right were engaged in a dance with extremists. They didn’t think much of the far-right

    If you’re talking about the sex pervert with the toothbrush mustache, he was the true centrist, itching to nationalize the banks. The military and the monarchists were the true right, and the ultramontanes the far-right.

    It was the progressive Protestant Prussian east that voted for the repressed poofter, not the reactionary Catholic west and south:

  12. Hinderberg has been on my mind a lot in the last couple of weeks. The historical parallels are eerie to say the least. I pray that I am wrong, but fear that I am not.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @S
  13. Whiskey says: • Website

    The whole aim of Civil Rights has always been White genocide. Even Ace of Spades knows it.

    White Genocide has always been the real Dream of Martin Luther King.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
  14. Jack D says:

    I don’t get it. If Biden is Hindenburg, then who is Hitler?

  15. Anon7 says:

    The odd thing about the Biden presidential bid is that I’ve never seen a candidate with so little to say. Does anybody know if Biden has any specific ideas? Anything?

    The guy is just a placeholder.

  16. BREAKING: Biden picks a running mate, and it’s a man!

    Someone named “Natch” Rulk Hauses. Not much info yet …

  17. Kronos says:
    @Jack D

    By money is on Stacey Abrams.

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @JimB
    , @Lot
    , @Kyle
  18. JimDandy says:

    Lotta time between now and November. A lot is going to happen. First and foremost, Biden will have to be more public, without a net, and that is a guaranteed disaster. I don’t know who will win the election, but I think Vegas has Trump as an -130 underdog. I might go put some money on Trump.

  19. anon[214] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @Corn
    , @nebulafox
  20. @J1234

    I was alarmed for his mental faculties when I saw that ad. How many times did he have try to get this short sentence out without flubbing it? Obviously, they picked the best take they got. Can you imagine the takes that are even worse?

    Also, why do Joe Biden’s eyes look so weird lately? So small and beady? Did he get plastic surgery that didn’t work out well?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @anon
  21. Kirt says:

    The top establishment Dems are not so naive as to think that Biden will be on top of any situation. He’s just a top of the ballot place holder who won’t scare off too many voters. Once he’s in, he’ll resign and be replaced by whoever is the designated black woman.

  22. wren says:
    @J1234

    Yeah, i have seen that so many times that I think it has to be intentional for some reason.

    “I’m coming directly to you for ask a quick favor.”

    The first time I saw it I thought “He sure doesnt look confident. And it sure sounded like he just jumbled his words.” The second and third and 20th times it just bothered me, but I feel they have to have some ulterior motive for it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  23. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @J1234

    Yes! I noticed that as well. It’s ridiculous. Are they trying to condition the public? Surely they could’ve gotten a better take…

  24. JimB says:
    @Kronos

    I think Stacy’s already out of the running. If Steve is right about the DNC establishment, they will probably pick Willie B’s cum dump.

    • Replies: @Thoughts
    , @Not Raul
  25. Lot says:
    @Kronos

    That’s really unfair to Adolf.

  26. Wilkey says:
    @Anon

    To which a friend of a friend said to me in a bar, “That’s a right-wing extremist talking point.”

    To which I responded, “Is it true?”

    Crickets.

    “Is it true?”

    More crickets.

    “Is it true?”

    At that point the conversation was obviously over. Nice to see the Washington Post finally join us “right-wing extremists.”

    • Replies: @astrolabe
  27. anonymous[372] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t understand the point of so much discussion about steering America in a right direction again. It’s over. Among the under 15 population, 49% is white. It’s time to think about how to start over. The left wing maniacs don’t want to live in a united United States either. What would a practical split look like? What would be the core America that emerges from dissolution? How can core America reset things socially and culturally?

  28. Kronos says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Yeah, it’s very disconcerting. The Democratic Party has a infamous history of Presidents lying about health issues.

    Woodrow Wilson: Stroke

    FDR: Polio

    JFK: Addison’s disease

    Bill Clinton: Sexual Predator

  29. The girl in the pic with Prince Andrew looks sort of like a young Liz Phair.

    Is this what she got up to after “Whitechocolatespaceegg” tanked?

  30. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Somebody from the leftist mob. Pretty sure the idea is: a time of heightened political turmoil combined with a feeble figurehead allows some radical to swoop in.

  31. My guess is: This will not work out the way it – might be intended.

    Case in point – please don’t laugh: – Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan, – both going ferociously after Joe Biden – and after the Democratic Party, addressing Biden’s sings of declining mental fitness (“he is having f*** DEMENTIA – and the media still don’t go after him”…Jimmy Dore 9 minutes in – outraged:


     
    Katie Halper, Matt Taibbi’s co-host of the Rolling Stone podcast Useful Idiots calls Joe Biden’s nomination “elder abuse”.

    PS
    Part of Joe Rogan’s success is, that is that he usually does rather avoid politics. Well, not in this case. He seems to know when it’s worthwhile to start a fight.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
  32. Stogumber says:

    As for the Hindenburg tree:
    1. “Nailing” trees as a financial support of the war was a general custom then and normally not connected with Hindenburg.
    2. But Hindenburg was indeed loved and admired because had defeated Russia in the early days of WWI and thus saved the Germans from a Russian occupation.

  33. According to Netflix’s new Jeffrey Epstein documentary, Bill Clinton was spotted on Epstein’s island by an eyewitness. See below.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-filthy-rich-netflix-documentary-1006535/

    Although Clinton’s team has since downplayed the association, Epstein and Clinton had a working relationship prior to Eptstein’s arrest in 2005, with flight logs showing Clinton traveling on Epstein’s private plane a total of 26 times. In an interview, Scully, who worked for Epstein from 1999 to 2005, alleges that he saw Clinton at Epstein’s private island, Little St. James, also known as “Pedophile Island.”

    “I saw Bill Clinton sitting with Jeffrey on the living-room porch area, which was Jeffrey’s favorite spot,” Scully said. “I saw no other guests there at that time at all. I just thought, ‘Hey, wow, Jeffrey’s sitting with Bill Clinton.’” Giuffre also says she saw Clinton there, though she never saw him do anything improper. In a statement, a spokesperson for Clinton has said, “This was a lie the first time it was told, and it isn’t true today, no matter how many times it’s repeated.”

    Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein.

    Bill Clinton and Epstein’s “Madame” Ghislaine Maxwell.

    Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein’s sex slave Virginia Giuffre.

    Giuffre is alleging that she was trafficked to Prince Andrew, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, billionaire financier Glenn Dubin, former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, Allen Dershowitz, and modeling mogul Jean-Luc Brunel. Giuffre also accused “another prince,” a “foreign president,” a well-known prime minister” and the owner of a “large hotel chain” in France.

    More interesting information about Bill Clinton from journalist Kirby Sommers.

    See below:

    How Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew coerced Graydon Carter of Vanity Fair not to public a piece Jeffrey Epstein (and Ghislaine Maxwell) written by John Connolly for Vanity Fair.

    Connolly worked with James Patterson on ‘Filthy Rich.’

    He also worked with Vanity Fair and had been working on an article on Epstein right before Epstein’s first arrest. Word about the upcoming article which included information on the girls who had been ensnared into Epstein’s sex trafficking ring – got out.

    Bill Clinton went to Vanity Fair’s office at 4 Times Square and told Graydon Carter that his expose of Jeffrey Epstein must not run.

    Prince Andrew (and the royal family) also pressured Carter – threatening to shut down his restaurant The Waverly Inn (which opened in 2006).

    There were a couple of other very powerful men who kept the article from seeing the light of day. These included Ron Burkle (whose son died recently) and movie producer Steve Bing.
    Carter shelved the story.

    Ron Burkle, who is in Epstein’s Black Book is also alleged to have been involved in procuring young girls. Burkle financed a couple of night clubs in Los Angeles – where girls were “harvested”. Burkle would then, again, alleged fly these girls out to both Jeffrey Epstein and movie producer Steve Bing — who paid Burkle (a billionaire) for the girls.

    Sounds a lot like the pyramid trafficking scheme Epstein had with his underage victims where he paid them to bring back other young girls to him.

    By the way, Epstein left a bullet and a “dead cat” on the lawn of Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter, to make sure the story wouldn’t run. Epstein also may have bribed a NYT reporter for good coverage.

    More on Bill Clinton below.

    ABC News anchor Amy Robach claims that ABC killed a story that she had, which linked Bill Clinton to Jeffrey Epstein. This story was to be released during the 2016 election.

    The above clip was released by producer Ashley Bianco to conservative journalist James O’Keefe, who revealed it on Twitter. After ABC found out that Bianco was the whistleblower, they let CBS (which was Bianco’s new employer) know. CBS then fired her. See below.

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/abc-and-cbs-silent-alleged-epstein-whistleblower-firing-96026

    CBS fired newly hired producer Ashley Bianco, a former ABC employee, on Nov. 6 after ABC executives allegedly contacted the network, believing she had accessed the leaked Robach footage, journalist Yashar Ali previously reported.

    Apparently, Harvard faculty flew on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” plane. They also visited his homes in NY, Florida, and New Mexico.

    They visited him in jail too (after an arrest for child sex crimes), which is sort of interesting. They even went to his pedophile island. See below quote.

    https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/harvard-prof-wanted-to-retain-epsteins-gifts-even-after-his-guilty-plea-626809

    Harvard admitted that many faculty members wined and dined with Epstein, even after he was convicted of child sex acts in 2008.

    “A number of the Harvard faculty members we interviewed also acknowledged that they visited Epstein in his homes in New York, Florida, New Mexico or the Virgin Islands, visited him in jail or on work release, or traveled on one of his planes. Faculty members told us that they undertook these off-campus activities primarily in their personal capacities rather than as representatives of Harvard. These actions did not implicate Harvard rules or policies,” the investigation concluded.

    Epstein had his own personal office at Harvard.

    Interlochen Center for the Arts is a fine-arts boarding school and camp. Epstein donated to the institution and even had his own official lodge there. The name of the lodge was “Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge.” His lodge was located near the junior girls camp.

    TLDR Summary of above post:

    -Clinton was spotted on Epstein’s pedophile island.
    -There are pictures of Clinton with Epstein and Maxwell.
    -Bill Clinton went to Vanity Fair’s office and told Graydon Carter that his expose of Jeffrey Epstein “must not run.”
    -Prince Andrew (and the royal family) pressured Carter, threatening to shut down his restaurant.
    -Ron Burkle (whose son died back a few months ago) also tried to kill the story.
    -Steve Bing (who just committed “suicide”) tried to kill the story too.
    -Epstein left a dead cat on Graydon Carter’s lawn.
    -Epstein may have bribed a NYT reporter for good news coverage.
    -ABC News killed a 2016 news story (right before the election) that linked Clinton and Epstein.
    -Whistleblower Ashley Bianco got fired from CBS for blowing the whistle on ABC.
    -Harvard faculty flew on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” jet, visited his various properties, traveled to his pedophile island, and even visited him in jail.
    -Epstein had his own personal office at Harvard.
    -Epstein had a lodge at a fine arts boarding camp. The lodge was located nearby that girls camp.

  34. @JohnnyWalker123

    By the way, back in 2006, Prince Andrew had a party at his house.

    See if you can identify these three individuals who attended.

    Hint. None of the three is me. For some reason, I wasn’t invited.

  35. @Anon

    “Good Times, Bad Times” or “Communication Breakdown”?

  36. MattinLA says:

    I see you”re as worried as I am over the new polls. Yes, it seems we are well and truly fucked, whether ir be Susan or Kamala or Stacey who is selected to seize full power and unleash hell on us….

  37. Thomas says:

    Joe Biden, he of the 1994 Crime Bill, the sentencing enhancements for crack cocaine, too many racial and sexual gaffes to count, wouldn’t exactly be my idea of a bulwark against the #woke mob.

    Incidentally, I’ve been wondering what the prognosis is of his mental state since the coronavirus outbreak and his retreat into purdah. Isolation is a significant risk factor for the development of dementia. Probably all the moreso for a naturally outgoing politician who probably needs a lot of social stimulation on an ongoing basis. I assume his isolation from the media isn’t simply a campaign strategy at this point.

  38. One, well, chink in the armor of the Democratic Party is the shear negrosity about what’s going on. Everything is getting a little too black. People, even operatically moral cat whisperers, will have to gauge their own unease at what can only be called an Afrocalypse.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  39. @JohnnyWalker123

    Jesus Christ dude, not only is this repetitious and off-topic, nearly every single bit of it has been covered before on this very blog, and at length. At the very least you could have the courtesy to use the MORE tag.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Disagree: Redman
  40. @Gary in Gramercy

    Here’s hoping it’s “Trampled Under Foot,” but we may end up with “In Through the Out Door.”

  41. @Anon

    Now there’s a fault line: descendants of slaves vs. descendants of immigrants. See here if you’ve got a spare half-hour. (TLDL: comedian on an ordinary radio show expresses the idea that blacks have more rights than Arabs in America because they’ve suffered more for the country.)

  42. Bumpkin says:

    Eh, much of the populace supported Hindenburg, the SA, and a move to the right in the German elections, don’t think that’s going to happen here. Even if Biden somehow wins, BLM and other far left activists have nowhere near the popular support even the SA had after the German economy crashed, nor is there a rallying figure they can propose in Biden’s place. It is no less conniving and worthy of derision when you draw such bad historical analogies as when the left denigrates orange hitler.

    • Replies: @Black-hole creator
  43. @Dieter Kief

    I am a fan of both Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan. I don’t take Rogan seriously on politics, but he at least provides a semi-open forum for discussion. Rogan’s “regular guy mode” is as close as we get to right wing populism the media. Rogan is decidedly not right wing, but he reveals what is possible.

    Dore is just a treasure. Again, his politics are mostly just regular White guy mode with a slight Leftist twist.

    Unfiltered regular guys talking always leads to right wing populism. THAT is what they are afraid of.

  44. @Reg Cæsar

    Interesting that sex pervert capital Berlin aligned with “reactionary” Catholics.

    Maybe it was down to attire: Catholics and Berliners preferred men in fancy cassocks holding Mass, while Prussians and Centrals preferred Mass State Troopers. Fey versus Butch. It appears Danzig won that round.

    • Thanks: BenKenobi
  45. anon[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Also, why do Joe Biden’s eyes look so weird lately?

    Trying to blink out “Help Me!” but forgot most of Morse Code, only remembers “e” and “s”.

  46. anon[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @San Fernando Curt

    One, well, chink in the armor of the Democratic Party

  47. Mr. Anon says:
    @wren

    Biden could be in one of those “Visiting Angels” homecare ads.

    • LOL: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @wren
  48. BenKenobi says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    You’re all wrong.

    The answer is “Battle of Evermore”, followed by “No Quarter” and ending with Stairway.

    Yeah, I know that’s three/four albums later.

    “Does anybody remember laughter?”

    • Replies: @anonymous
  49. @JohnnyWalker123

    [MORE]

    Shove that OT shit under a MORE tag, ya dumb coont.

  50. They didn’t think much of the far-right, but thought their low-brow energy could be useful in helping them defeat their enemies on the left.

    The Really Smart Set always calls those on the right who can get things done, “low brow”.

    Has the “high brow” set ever done anything but fail. Or just plain stab us in the back?

    In this country, they much prefer Eisenhower and Nixon over Reagan, since they were oh so smart, yet pushed anti-White policies that make Smart People feel like Good Doggies!

    • Agree: Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  51. BenKenobi says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I don’t understand how the most powerful and wealthy people on God’s Gay Earth need an elaborate web of deceit and iniquity to traffic the level of girls that I could go into any Vancouver bar and bring home by last call.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    , @Alden
  52. res says:
    @Jack D

    Wouldn’t that be Biden’s VP? Looking like Kamala Harris.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  53. @Jack D

    Harris. Power hungry, opportunistic, vicious.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  54. @res

    Wouldn’t that be Biden’s VP? Looking like Kamala Harris.

    Kamala Harris as Hitler – maybe not enough over the top to be – – – funny, unfortunately.

  55. anonymous[356] • Disclaimer says:
    @BenKenobi
    • Thanks: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @El Dato
  56. @Dieter Kief

    Heh, Kamala Harris as Hitler.

    Instead of invading Poland and France, she’ll wind up invading Greenpoint and Restaurant Daniel.

    Of course, Harris’s peeps have already invaded France. On to Stalingrad, in search of a better life, and white wimminz! But mostly white wimminz!

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  57. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @You know my name

    Does anyone know what a Biden presidency would like look?

    Thing sure!

    • LOL: Prester John
  58. wren says:
    @Mr. Anon

    This is the guy that Twitter permanently banned today I think. He made this a few months ago.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  59. El Dato says:

    From Hindenburg : icon of German militarism by William J Astore and Dennis E Showalter:

    It is often said that Hindenburg had begun to show signs of senility, but if he had, his opposition to Hitler remained uncompromised. The president, however, was worn down and fed up; his eighty-five years weighed heavily upon him. Itself under stress, his camarilla now betrayed him. Recognizing his momentum was in danger of stalling, Hitler gambled everything and won. On January 4, 1933, he met secretly with Papen and agreed to become chancellor with only two other Nazis in the cabinet: Wilhelm Frick as minister of the interior and Göring as minister without portfolio (but Göring also seconded Papen as minister of the interior for Prussia). Capturing the interior ministries of Germany and Prussia meant that the Nazis would control the police, augmented by their own private army of SA and SS. In an attempt to restrict Hitler’s influence, Papen would serve as vice chancellor and accompany Hitler to his audiences with Hindenburg, who preferred not to address Hitler directly.

    [MORE]

    Advised by Papen, Meissner, and most importantly by his son, Oskar, who had met secretly with Hitler on January 22, that Hitler would be brought to heel and humbled within a nationalist cabinet, a dilatory and depressed Hindenburg acquiesced. “We have hired him!” Papen exclaimed as a new cabinet was formed with Hitler as chancellor. Not for the first time, those in authority had underestimated Hitler. Hindenburg was hardly alone in misjudging the man, but only he could legally appoint Hitler, and history has not allowed him to evade responsibility.

    Historians, however, have been less successful in explaining his decision. The most familiar argument presents Hindenburg as an aged, exhausted pawn in the hands of Papen, the rightwing camarilla, and not least Oskar. To the extent he remained an independent actor—and there is ample evidence that his vigor waxed and waned in these final days—Hindenburg may have been influenced by the argument that the Nazis’ loss of votes in the November 1932 election would make them easier to handle. On a more visceral level, it is likely that Hindenburg preferred a Nazi government to continued disorder and trusted his conservative cronies to keep Hitler in line. A united, vigorous, and nationalist Germany under Hitler’s direction was better than the all-too-likely result of attempting to govern without him and his enthusiastic followers. Cabinets made and unmade by cabals with no visible bases of public support made for a political situation that could not endure indefinitely. A war game held in late November 1932 concluded that the Reichswehr and the Prussian police together could not put down a civil war engineered by the Nazis and communists. The consequence of such a war, to a monarchist and conservative like Hindenburg, would be the end of Prussia and the Germany he had spent his life serving; the Reich’s enemies, foreign and domestic, would pick its bones.

    Instead, as conservatives attempted to capture the dynamism of the Nazi movement while curbing its criminality, the opposite occurred: The Nazis co-opted their legitimacy and used it brazenly in a sadistic reign of terror that consumed all political rivals. Ironically, the man who saw Germany’s future most clearly at the end of January 1933 was Ludendorff. Having marched alongside Hitler in the Munich putsch, Ludendorff had no illusions about a new, law-abiding version. “This accursed man,” Ludendorff telegrammed to Hindenburg, “will cast our Reich into the abyss and bring our nation to inconceivable misery. Future generations will damn you in your grave for what you have done.” So they would.

    The announcement on January 30, 1933, of Hitler’s appointment as chancellor touched off a frenzy of Nazi demonstrations, including a torchlight parade that evening in Berlin. “It’s like a fairy tale,” enthused Goebbels. From their respective offices Hitler and Hindenburg watched the procession make its way down the Wilhelmstraße. A story soon circulated that, if not literally true, was taken as symptomatic of Hindenburg’s decline. As thousands of SA and SS shuffled past, followed by the Stahlhelm, or Steel Helmets, the nationalist war veterans’ organization, in ringing cadence, Hindenburg reputedly beamed with pride, then turned to an imaginary Ludendorff in the shadows and exulted, “Ludendorff. How well our men are marching! And what a lot of Russian prisoners they’ve taken!”

    It was all over but the voting!

    Even in an atmosphere ripe with crisis and murderous intimidation, Hitler and the NSDAP failed to win a majority of the vote. In the last free elections to be held in Germany until the Nazis won 44 percent of the votes, necessitating a coalition government with the nationalists. Thus, in March 1933, 56 percent of the German electorate was still voting against Hitler. But it was also true that the German people granted him a large plurality, and nearly a majority, a vote of confidence that seemed to justify Hindenburg’s selection of him as chancellor.

  60. @Bumpkin

    Eh, much of the populace supported Hindenburg, the SA, and a move to the right in the German elections, don’t think that’s going to happen here. Even if Biden somehow wins, BLM and other far left activists have nowhere near the popular support even the SA had after the German economy crashed, nor is there a rallying figure they can propose in Biden’s place.

    Eh*2, Germany had a mini civil war going on in 1920s complete with machine guns and hundreds killed and executed, and the country was full of WW1 vets. So the silent majority was already battle-tested and divided along the lines of conflict. Here and now, the silent majority is very docile and will not put up much of a resistance. Oh, and Hitler was very popular in Germany, probably all the way until Stalingrad or so.

    Who says Kamala(?) won’t be as popular at first ? She will be a sort of unifying figure with a bit of gentle shaming of Karens at first and cancellations of a few more evil right-wingers, then she will produce a New Deal centered on universal income and infrastructure upgrade, and then she will gradually increase her intensity to reparations and confiscations.

    Anyway, Steve, you came up with a pretty good analogy.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  61. @You know my name

    If the Left decides to seriously go after the credit card companies, Joe would probably veto that. Otherwise, we’ll see an effort to kinda, sorta raise taxes “on the rich” to pay the interest on the debt created by new spending. “Punish the polluters” as part of an effort to strangle American manufacturing.

  62. El Dato says:
    @anonymous

    Your Chadian Akkadian-Mongolian White Hordes from the steppes need to rest after a long slew of successfully removing babs from premises.

    You must build additional shrines to the White Sun God!

  63. @Anonymous

    I think, too, that Trump will win.

    But- what next?

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @anon
  64. @JohnnyWalker123

    My final opinion about the Epstein affair (not that I am not susceptible to further reasonable arguments):

    1. Epstein was the mega-pimp for the filthy rich and, bizarrely, older science guys who wanted to get laid; add various powerful (or ex-powerful) politicians & highly placed figures.

    2. Having in mind his ethnicity, Jews are over-represented among the clientele, but the users are generally American & European aging men. Maybe, just maybe, there were also some oil shaikhs, but I haven’t seen them. No east Asians, blacks, Latin Americans (not a macho thing).

    3. I would almost completely dismiss the possibility of intelligence community, honey traps etc. (Mossad, CIA,…). It was not more than a well paid, highly positioned brothel on multiple locations with young women & girls. I suppose it came into existence not as a grand scheme realized, but crystallized along the way in a few years when those guys had been confiding to each other about their unsatisfied “urges”. Also, no young or attractive men among them.

    4. why? I think it is a mistake to think that any high powered man can get laid whenever he wants (especially with 14-16 years old girls). Then, there are surroundings, mystique, relaxation, an ego-pumping sense of confirmation of belonging to an elite (of old farts).

    And considering the scope of the scandal, Epstein & a few others are almost certainly eliminated.

    • Disagree: Gordo
    • Replies: @G. Wilkers
  65. More like, the F.W. deKlerk of America.

    • Agree: Not Raul
  66. astrolabe says:
    @Wilkey

    Wanting to know whether something is true is a dog whistle.

  67. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    That’s the interesting question, one way or another in at least 4 years time there won’t be anyone really challenging the status quo. No Bernie, no Trump. What do then? Both of them were not a new force but much older people who never got on board with certain things. New politicians aren’t being produced anymore just managers.

    The closest there is to a new political realignment is AOC who promises some policies against neoliberalism whilst also promising even more open borders, the secret sauce that cements neoliberalism in power. It’s like having a policy of bailing out water from a boat whilst also having a policy of drilling holes in the bottom.

    Nobody much talking about bringing back simple things like Glass-Steagall, let alone anyone going to prison. Nobody much talking about BlackRock and the new financial grifts. Immigration has become to the left what global warming is to the right. I don’t think we’ll ever see the left understand immigration again for a generation. The right still hasn’t accepted global warming.

    The pillow will continue to be over the face of America.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  68. So, if she’s made of wood, then she can be burned?

  69. Ed says:

    Good analogy, I hope enough white women come to their senses by November, otherwise Biden will win. Polls aren’t looking good for Trump.

    One way you can tell the country is going downhill is that Biden and Dems don’t even feel compelled to comment on the protests and statue removal, let alone condemn them.

  70. Thoughts says:

    I say it again…

    Blind Gossip says that Joe has made a deal with the devil to step down due to a health reason and let Abrams take the Presidency

    You know it’s going to happen…

    And I always say it again and again

    1) The Jews import, ally with or create/intellectually arm a minority group who hates the majority group
    2) The Jews gain control of the majority groups’ institutions
    3) Genocide against Christians begins

    It’s so simple. It’s so repetitive. It’s so banally boring, yet white Europeans fall for it century after century

  71. guest007 says:

    Do all of the people pushing that meme that Biden has dementia not understand that President Trump is probably the dumbest president the U.S. has ever had.

    President Trump makes major gaffes virtually every day, has probably never read a book in his entire life, does not review his briefing books, does not remember what his briefers told me the previous day.

    No matter how frail Biden comes off does anyone really believe that Biden would confuse napalm and agent orange and then refuse to admit he made a mistake. https://screencrush.com/trump-apocalypse-now-agent-orange/

  72. Thoughts says:
    @JimB

    She’s not insulting and demoralizing enough to whites

    Kamala is kinda hot and registers in the hindbrain as white-ish

    Abrams, it’s gotta be Abrams

    Extra Credit for the Jewy name!

    • Replies: @JimB
  73. @Reg Cæsar

    If you’re talking about the sex pervert with the toothbrush mustache,

    I’ve often wondered about this. A mainstream German historian wrote a book making the credible case that Hitler was teh ghey, and not repressed, but a flamer. The evidence is all over, just screaming. Naturally the book was buried.

    At the time I was still semi-normie so I dismissed it, but now I think he was right.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/07/books.booksnews

    • Thanks: Charlotte
    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  74. @Altai

    What next? The tech giants continue their assault on privacy and every freedom we ever held dear.

    Our only hope may be that they are supplanted by Chinese tech giants. Which isn’t much of a hope.

  75. Not Raul says:
    @JimB

    I bet you’re popular with the ladies.

  76. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @J1234

    I saw the ad attached to some Biden video that was meant to show how bad he really is. I guess they don’t care, they’ll blanket the whole place with his commercial. This must be the best take possible. He really doesn’t look very healthy. He’s got the faraway look of someone who has Alzheimers and is struggling to stay on board. Look at some people in nursing homes and you’ll see the same sort of appearance. This is not being said because of dislike but rather because it seems to be true. He’s been in hiding and currently just makes videos or has a very limited and controlled public exposure. What’s his life expectancy considering his downward turn?

  77. Not Raul says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You have an interesting concept of Hitler.

  78. Not Raul says:
    @Anonymous

    Do you know something that the public doesn’t?

  79. @Ed

    Good analogy, I hope enough white women come to their senses by November, otherwise Biden will win. Polls aren’t looking good for Trump.

    Just like Hillary won in 2016 because the polls said she would.

    Haven’t you realized yet that the polls are fake?

    • Replies: @guest007
  80. Corn says:
    @anon

    You’d think the Soviets won the Cold War

    • Replies: @El Dato
  81. Gordo says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    By the way, Epstein left a bullet and a “dead cat” on the lawn of Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter, to make sure the story wouldn’t run. Epstein also may have bribed a NYT reporter for good coverage.

    What, personally?

  82. RudyM says:
    @J1234

    I noticed that, but forgot all about it. But now that I think about it, that’s a good point: is that really the best take they could get out of him? Frightening, if so. I got that commercial on youtube a few times, maybe last week.

  83. countenance says: • Website

    Similarly, a lot of Establishment Democrats are reassuring their unquiet thoughts about what they’ve unleashed in their pursuit of power with the idea that the whole point is to make Joe Biden President. And, once he’s in the White House, good old Joe isn’t going to let the extremists go too far. He’ll be right on top of the situation, not letting it get out of hand.

    I’m just wondering what the big difference is anymore between “establishment Democrats” and the “extremists.”

    • Replies: @David In TN
  84. Pericles says:
    @Anon

    What if some antifa took the boat out there and hacked off that plaque? Wouldn’t that be just terrible?

  85. @Anonymous

    Just a word of caution before you go all in on The Donald: I worked our local polling place Tuesday and black turnout was unusually large. (As were many of these black female voters individually). This could be a portent for November, since Tuesday’s primary vote was meaningless — in fact the ballot was a weird time-capsule relic where you could still vote for Yang, Tulsi, Kamala etc.

  86. @Anon

    Biden = Hindenberg? Oh, the humanity!

  87. @Black-hole creator

    Who says Kamala(?) won’t be as popular at first ?

    Politico has a story which says in part that blacks think Kamala is a phony:
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/24/letter-to-washington-grosse-pointe-woods-325641

  88. anon[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If Trump wins, the Left will continue to erupt in fury as they are now. We could have continuous riots from election night forward. At some point the Left will mount a large enough attack on an important enough target that the Federal government will have to use troops to stop it. Trump will be cast as a military dictator and more coup attempts against him will ensue.
    The country may break apart and 2020 will prove to be the last US national election.

    • Replies: @jsm
  89. peterike says:

    The University of Michigan just pulled out of hosting one of the debates, citing “Covid concerns,” naturally.

    My guess is that they will use Covid to cancel any debates, since they would likely be a disaster for Biden. And I’m still not 100% sure he’ll make it through the Convention.

    Betting on Trump winning is a risky move until we actually know who he’s campaigning against, and whether or not debates will happen. Biden’s poll numbers have been rising since they’ve taken to hiding him in the basement. But at some point in the campaign they will have to trot him out more often.

    Biden is a disaster waiting to happen. Given that and the massive Leftward lurch of everything in the past month and radical anti-white hatred spiking to new heights, my guess is we get Team New Socialists out of the convention. Two people of color, at least one female, and the female at the top of the ticket.

    The debates will be Trump trying to make some point, and some harpy of color shouting him down encouraged by a screaming (totally planted) audience and a complicit media.

  90. @San Fernando Curt

    Everything is getting a little too black. People, even operatically moral cat whisperers, will have to gauge their own unease at what can only be called an Afrocalypse.

    True. A lot of Black Lives Matter yard signs are gonna quietly change to For Sale signs in the next few months.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  91. @BenKenobi

    I don’t understand how the most powerful and wealthy people on God’s Gay Earth need an elaborate web of deceit and iniquity to traffic the level of girls that I could go into any Vancouver bar and bring home by last call.

    For the same reason that (although I’m sure you could make an excellent and tasty pizza yourself) it’s easier just to call Domino’s and have someone else make it and bring it to you while you do other more interesting stuff. Plus you don’t have to clean up afterward.

  92. guest007 says:
    @Peripatetic Commenter

    Hillary was leading by 3% in nationwide polling and won the popular vote by about 3%. Trump eked out a narrow win in a few battleground states where the final result was well within the margin of error in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Penn. What Nate Silver actually discussed in 2016 was that all three states are partially correlated in eleciton outcomes (look it up) nad Silver was right. The NY Times and the Princeton group’s major mistake was in not looking at correlations among states.

    However, Biden is currently average more than 50% in nationwide polls and that is something that Hillary Clinton never had.

    • Agree: Keypusher
  93. guest007 says:
    @Known Fact

    Black voter turnout has been high since 2008 and is one of the reasons that Republicans are having winning state wide offices in some states. However, if Latino turnout matched black turnout, the Republican Party would be irrelevant today.

    What is why the Republicans are stuck in a position with no good outcome: The Republicans can try to stay the white only party that let demographics overwhelm them or the Republicans can try to become the Democratic-lite party in order to appeal to blacks, Latinos, Asians, suburban moms and those with graduate degrees while driving off all of the social conservatives which result in a quick collapse.

  94. @HammerJack

    All you have to do to get rid of Joe is have an infected person cough on him.

  95. @Jane Plain

    I have no idea what Hitler’s sexual preferences were and don’t care, but I don’t think I’d have much confidence in a “mainstream German historian” whose works are reviewed in The Guardian
    to tell the truth.

    And now that it’s fabulous to be gay and hateful to be straight, I guess the updated version from the “mainstream German historian” would be that Uncle Adolph was 200% straight.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  96. Hibernian says:
    @guest007

    Biden could easily confuse day with night. And refuse to admit he made a mistake.

  97. JimB says:

    Joe Biden will be President von Hindenburg. Stacy Abrams will be the LZ 129 Hindenburg. Joe can fly her to all his important diplomatic destinations in Cloud Cucko0 Land.

  98. JimB says:
    @Thoughts

    Harris is NOT hot. She looks like the Bride of Frankenstein. But that didn’t matter to Willie Brown who is blind.

  99. Alfa158 says:
    @Daniel Williams

    H.A. could write a good but seemingly improbable narrative, however now you have to wonder how improbable the basics premises really are.
    In his Northwest novels a breakaway guerrilla movement is able to succeed against all odds because the US becomes too weakened and fractured by bankrupt government, military overreach, social chaos, economic decline and Soviet level political oppression.
    With the COVID crisis and latest uprisings, we seem to be heading over the falls at increasing speed. It won’t happen because the resistance is strong but simply because the Machine tears itself apart.
    I’m old so I thought the fall would happen after I’m gone, or that it wouldn’t even happen at all, and the country would still clunk along after a fashion as Brazil North. Not as sure about that now.

  100. Whiskey says: • Website

    Steve will you admit you were wrong? Bush was the best Republicans could do. The ruling class would not tolerate Citizen ism. Hence the rush to White genocide.

    Trump and a nationalism lite has been a disaster. All it did was make black people angry and no White people has ever been able to stand up to angry blacks .

  101. @guest007

    Why are his briefers briefing you?

  102. Mr. Anon says:
    @guest007

    Do all of the people pushing that meme that Biden has dementia not understand that President Trump is probably the dumbest president the U.S. has ever had.

    Dumbest? I don’t know (remember GW?). But he’s certainly not the brightest. Fundamentally, Trump is a huckster and a narcissist. He is also declining mentally and it’s gotten noticeably worse over the last year. His ad-libbed “speeches” seem to consist of a lot of disjointed rambling and repeating the same phrases over and over.

    Any debate between these two will be a pathetic spectacle.

    • Replies: @guest007
  103. @Anon

    This is literally what I thought Steve was referencing, rather than the actual man.

  104. El Dato says:
    @peterike

    The debates will be Trump trying to make some point, and some harpy of color shouting him down encouraged by a screaming (totally planted) audience and a complicit media.

    It will be wonderful!

    Jason Toole writes at RT saying Meghan Markle is eyeing the presidency because why not, now is the time, who dares wins etc. It will probably be ’24 if the USA still exists by that time:

    I won’t be surprised if Meghan Markle piggybacks BLM to run for US president, she is money hungry & status driven

  105. El Dato says:
    @Corn

    Black Soviets won the Cold War.

  106. peterike says:

    Wow. They really don’t want Biden out there live.

    Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden will accept his party’s 2020 nomination at a mostly virtual convention in Milwaukee in August that will likely not include the hundreds of delegates from across the country who traditionally attend such conventions to participate in the nominating process.

    No riots in the streets because nowhere to riot. No audience holding up Dump Biden signs. Covid: the universal excuse!

    “After consulting with public health officials about the COVID-19 pandemic, convention organizers are announcing today that they have determined state delegations should not plan to travel to Milwaukee and should plan to conduct their official convention business remotely,” the Democratic National Committee said Wednesday.

    Astonishing development. It does seem like for whatever reason, the DNC is all-in on Biden. Or does this make it even easier to do a switcheroo? In any case, they can at least pre-record all of Biden’s speeches to avoid disastrous senior moments.

    Why don’t they just work with Disney to create a Biden animatronic and be done with it?

  107. peterike says:
    @guest007

    No matter how frail Biden comes off does anyone really believe that Biden would confuse napalm and agent orange and then refuse to admit he made a mistake.

    Sure thing, troll. So your taking the word of a reporter named Asawin Suebsaeng, previously at Mother Jones, then writing at The Daily Beast, who cites several “unnamed sources who were in the room.” If credibility had a 1 to 10 scale, this is at best a 1.

    As for the rest of your lies, have you ever actually listened to Trump speak? He gives speeches all the time and he also talks to reporters all the time, usually on the way to an event (a chopper press conference). They ask him all manner of questions (1/2 of them gotcha types) and he (1) always knows what he’s talking about, sometimes with truly surprising levels of detail and (2) consistently bats away the reporters and makes them look like fools. Of course, if you are being recorded every single day, you’re going to make a few stumbles. The press focuses only on these, not to mention that they consistently and deliberately mischaracterize Trump (obvious jokes portrayed as serious comments, for example).

    But then, you haven’t actually ever listened to Trump, you’re just repeating lies the media feeds you.

    • Replies: @guest007
  108. @Bardon Kaldian

    Then why the portrait of Clinton in a dress? Then who is MEGA?

  109. guest007 says:
    @peterike

    You should try looking up the napalm story. It has been reported in many places. Also, look u what Trump thought about Finland. If you claim that the media is lying, then you argument is very weak.

    Also, according to Trump I thought Covid-19 was going to be gone my Easter, I thought we would have Clorox bleach pills by now, I thought Covid-19 response was the equivalent of war, I thought the U.S. was going to purchase Greenland, I thought that the U.S. was doing too much Covid-19 testing.

    There is hardly a day that goes by where Trump does not either contradict his previous statements, gets caught in an outright lie, confuses an issue or steps on his message like visiting a sterile factory and then refusing to wear a mask. To claim that Trump does great at press conference goes against all of his poorly received Covid-19 conference.

    If Trump was great at handling the press or issues, his approval numbers would not be so low.

    A good question for the future is dementia worse that toxic narcissism, narcissistic personality disorder, and being a sociopath. If all of the people repeating memes about Biden’s mental abilities really cared about mental health they would want President Trump out of office today.

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @Corvinus
  110. I must confess that I never thought of the Hindenberg analogy but it is certainly enticing, if ominous. It is increasingly clear that Amblin’ Ramblin’ Joe is a mere front man or, more appropriate, a marionette. If elected, he will be the first president to have strings dangling from his arms (or the second, if you count Little George Jr.).

    • Replies: @Charlotte
  111. @You know my name

    “Does anyone know what a Biden presidency would look like?”

    Best case scenario: vapid white woman Kamala Harris. We know what the worst case looks like (see shimmering photo above).

  112. I would have used the historical example of Alexander Kerensky as a more fitting model for Biden.

    His only real job is to get rid of the old regime before being discarded for the real revolution.

  113. Ian Smith says:
    @Anon

    Since it’s seen as celebrating both freed slaves and immigrants, maybe she should be cancelled!

  114. @Mike_from_SGV

    “Harris. Power hungry, opportunistic, vicious.”

    She’s also quite charming.

  115. @JohnnyWalker123

    Coincidentally (!) Bill Clinton rarely if ever makes any public appearances anymore. Even the Wife of Record has taken a low, low profile. People who have followed the Epstein case tend to notice these things.

  116. @peterike

    I am sure that there is a lot of work taking place within the DNC offices. No one can take Biden as anything more than a cipher who’ll be given the Two-Five (25th Amendment) within six months of his election. That’s why all the focus is on the VICE-prez. Given the current zeitgeist it’ll be a woman of kullah. Possibly that Abrams woman (who looks like a combination of Aunt Jemima and Esther Rolle of “Good Times”) or Willie Brown’s goomada.

  117. @San Fernando Curt

    “Everything is getting a little too black”

    Not enough black for the white cult kids.

    “Afrocalypse”

    Sounds like an old Harry Belafonte tune. Saint Barack, looking very Jesuit in his black tunic next to befuddled Joe yesterday, used the term “The Great Awakening” in reference to the current turmoil. Which explains the white cult kids.

  118. Charlotte says:
    @peterike

    If Biden does become the nominee, he’ll be expected to make an acceptance speech at the convention. That will be interesting; maybe they’ll have “technical difficulties.” I agree-the Dems cannot risk a debate between Biden and Trump; poor Joe will forget what year it is, and get tough on crime or something-if he can cope with the questions at all, which I doubt.

  119. guest007 says:
    @Mr. Anon

    As the old joke goes, is this the best that there is in the U.S. President Trump is just a BS-artist like many people who meet in life. He also has zero attention to detail and thus creates messes with his mouth that he leaves other to clean up. The Supreme Court ruling on DACA shows that the White House Staff is incapable of basic staff work and cannot perform the simplest of tasks.

    I would say that biggest benefit of President Trump losing would be that Jared Kushner and Ivanka would be out of the White House. Biden might be slow but at least his staff will be much better.

    the question for the future is whether the Republicans are capable of finding a conservative politician with the discipline of Obama and the speaking abilities of Reagan.

  120. @guest007

    ” The dumbest president the US has ever had”

    Yeah we know that you German “Besserwisser”, you german know-it-alls, hate DT with a passion, and that he is the most hated man since 1945 in Germany.

    For the uniformed : The brain-dead Krauts, being the most fervent BO/Greta/BC/HC worshipers on planet mirth, are writhing 24/7 under DTS.

    AJM “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro Jazz performer.

  121. Charlotte says:
    @Prester John

    Here’s a scenario I’ve been thinking about: what if Joe wins . . . and refuses to resign? Folks with advancing dementia are not necessarily aware of how impaired they’ve become. The Dems could try remove him using the 25th amendment, but what if a number of the senior executives decide they like an incompetent Joe better than President Stacy? What if the matter goes to Congress and the Republicans don’t play ball? In any government, there are going to be ambitious people who know they’ll never make the top spot in their own right, but who want to rule anyway. A seriously incapacitated president who can’t be winkled out would be quite an opportunity.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  122. JohnnyD says:

    They’re going to need a lot of wood…

  123. @countenance

    Some liberals I’ve known comforted themselves with the idea the Democrat “leaders” would be “not letting it get out of hand.”

    Of course, this isn’t happening. The “establishment Democrats” have to placate the “extremists.”

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  124. peterike says:
    @guest007

    You should try looking up the napalm story. It has been reported in many places.

    Confusing Agent Orange and napalm and what happened in a stupid movie is hardly the big deal you wish to make it into.

    according to Trump I thought Covid-19 was going to be gone my Easter

    It largely was. It certainly was a month later. But again, you believe what the media tells you.

    I thought we would have Clorox bleach pills by now

    Funny. Once again, you believe a blatant media mischaracterization. This doesn’t speak very well for either your IQ or your powers of discernment.

    To claim that Trump does great at press conference goes against all of his poorly received Covid-19 conference.

    They were “poorly received” by the media. You remember, by the way, how the media STOPPED BROADCASTING them because they were worried Trump’s ratings were spiking up too much as a result of people seeing his press conferences? No, you forgot that part.

    If Trump was great at handling the press or issues, his approval numbers would not be so low.

    How often do you see the press reporting on Trump’s responses to them? Oh yeah, never.

    One could go on but it’s tiresome dealing with someone so stupid they can’t see past the most blatant media manipulations.

    • Replies: @guest007
  125. @Johnny Smoggins

    That is an utterly idiotic response, and one of the reasons the right gets nowhere in this country. Because on the whole, Republicans really are dumber than Democrats and you are a perfect example of what Paul Craig Roberts calls the “dumbshit” American – too dumb to survive against the wily left.

    If you’d actually clicked on the link, you’d have seen that the article was a straightforward account of the book, not really a review.

    You also might have learned that Lothar Machtan is a mainstream credible German historian whose research was too good to be dismissed.

    If you cared, you might look up the name Lothar Machtan.

    This has nothing to do with the Guardian per se. It does have to do with ideology and history. Hitler’s homosexuality has been covered up, because homosexuality is now “good.” But you are too dumb to see that.

    Something tells me you just don’t like the idea that your Fuhrer has been outed.

  126. Well,it’s been rumored she has a Hitler moustache…

  127. Art Deco says:
    @David In TN

    They don’t have to. This is what they choose to do.

  128. Hibernian says:
    @El Dato

    Didn’t she renounce American citizenship?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  129. Joe Biden will be elected President without even campaigning, which i’m not sure has ever happened before, sans Washington.

    indeed, the less Biden campaigns, shows his face, or opens his mouth, the better he will do.

    • Replies: @Keypusher
  130. @Known Fact

    “our local polling place”

    Without that sort of information, your comment isn’t worth much.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  131. Art Deco says:
    @Hibernian

    Something like that. She and the Prince are a pair of Rorschach inkblots. They say they’d forego the Civil List subsidy (which none of his close cousins receive) and make only scattered appearances promoting this and that philanthropy (which is how his cousins arrange their schedules), and people fancy Lady MacBeth-Sussex has all sorts of nefarious schemes up her sleeve.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  132. Kyle says:
    @Kronos

    I’d put my money on some insane Indian bitch (Dot not feather). Slightly higher IQ but still authentically brown. The vanguard or Americas burgeoning managerial class. I’d bet on someone like Pramila Jayapal, Democrat congresswoman of Washington states 7th district. Or Kashama Sawant, a communist economist sitting on Seattle’s city council. Unless this was the 100m finals in the olympics, I’d never put money on a black person. Stacey Abraham’s hasn’t got it. You take one look at her and you know she hasn’t got it.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @Jim Don Bob
  133. @Yancey Ward

    It’s an interesting question Steve raises, but I don’t think the analogy is really parallel.

    Maybe a German history expert can correct me, but as far as I know, in the 1930s, the German aristocratic “center-right”, as Steve calls it, had completely different rhetoric, membership, and public comportment compared to the the far right, whom they held in some contempt, but were willing to use as a pawn, for their own ends.

    By contrast, today’s Establishment Democrats do share a great deal of rhetoric, membership, and public comportment with today’s far left. And to the extent they don’t share it, just give them a few weeks and they will. Since at least as far back as Barack and Hillary, the Dem Establishment has been egging on the far left BLM terrorists, the racial identitarians (except white, obviously), and they not only haven’t let up, they now insist everyone join them. Most fringe left rhetoric four years ago is Establishment talk today. Where Prussian aristos would have been mortified to share honor with lumpenprole street rumblers, today’s Establishment Dems welcome, cheer on and support the AOC/Omar/Tlaib “Squad”, protect Antifa terrorism and may even be covert members of Antifa. And are BLM moving towards suits and ties, or are the Dem Establishment moving toward Kente cloths?

    While holding themselves aloof and apart, 1930s German conservatives sought to use the far right for their own ends. The 2020s Dem Establishment actively joins, promotes and assimilates today’s far left. They don’t seek to use the far left for their own ends. They seek to become the far left as fast as they can pull their constituents along.

    So in sum, no, Biden is not the Hindenburg of 21st century America, nor is any other Establishment Democrat. Today’s situation is much worse than that. They are all already trying to be the Left’s Hitler for 21st century America.

    • Agree: S
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  134. Thea says:

    Biden and Trump will likely be sharing an ICU bay by November…

  135. Cortes says:
    @Daniel Williams

    Well said.

    I suspect that many of the posters around here are in properties tenanted by wokesters.

  136. Andy says:

    Alexander Kerensky might be a better analogy, the liberal witlessly clearing the path for the commies to takeover

  137. @El Dato

    Harry Sussex for Governor of California!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  138. @Nicholas Stix

    It’s a conservative county in a liberal state that Biden will certainly win, not a crucial swing state. The point is I’ve been doing this here for 25 years and an upswing in black (or young) voters is easy to spot. And if it’s part of a larger trend it’s not good for Trump.

    I think a lot of the recent turmoil is aimed at making sure blacks stay on the Democrat plantation and actually turn out in November. And it might be working

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  139. Corvinus says:
    @guest007

    “A good question for the future is dementia worse that toxic narcissism, narcissistic personality disorder, and being a sociopath**. If all of the people repeating memes about Biden’s mental abilities really cared about mental health they would want President Trump out of office today.”

    That is NOTICING, which is perplexing to me that Mr. Sailer has a blind eye for Trump. After all, our intrepid host is an (alleged) pattern recognizer. Deep down he knows that Trump possesses these qualities**, but he simply does not want to reveal his true thoughts to his fanbois or fangirlz for fear of losing their respect and coin. So, Mr. Sailer would rather remain cagey on the matter. Of course, if a Democrat/liberal was in the Oval Office, he would have no issue bringing up time and time again those behavioral traits. But he would rather waste precious digital ink on black womyn’s hair.

    It is patently obvious that Trump is a showman and uses the crowd for his own designs. “Fake News”, “Deep State”, and “MAGA” are brilliant marketing strategies, but in the end, what you have left are a mass of people who have been hoodwinked. Since when is Trump truly on the side of Flyover Country? He has yet to drain the swamp and continues to rely on Jews and neo-cons for crafting his policies. But his proponents will do ANYTHING to gloss over Trump’s foibles because they would have to painfully admit they fell for an act. So, like the GOP, his supporters fall off the cliff like lemmings.

    Another hate fact–Establishment Republicans are reassuring their unquiet thoughts about what they have unleashed in their pursuit of power with the idea the whole point is to ensure Trump is reelected. And, if he is able to secure a second term in the White House, good old Trump will continue to enable his extremist pals to pillage and plunder right underneath the noses of his advocates without reprisal.

    The question is will Mr. Sailer continue to carry Trump’s water should Trump win in November.

  140. nebulafox says:
    @anon

    Lenin believed in indigenous autonomy until he didn’t. Central Asian Muslims can attest to that one. The Soviets brutally squashed their attempts, the so called basmachi insurgencies, to break free of the Russian yoke dating back to 1916 in the early 1920s, using tanks, bombs, concentration camps, and even poison gas.

    As far as Washington goes, he was among the Founding Fathers who seemed to believe that slavery would die a natural death over the next couple of decades after the revolution if new slaves weren’t imported. As I elaborated in a previous post, this was a common belief in the immediate postwar environment of the 1780s: that the institution would naturally go the way that indentured servitude did because it was so self-evidently against the ideals of the new country. He was wrong, of course: tragically, deeply wrong. But he had no way of predicting the cotton gin or the Haitian Revolution. I’m not suggesting that Washington was a kind of proto-abolitionist, Washington wasn’t. But it’s more nuanced than “Washington believed in slavery”: his beliefs changed with time. By the last couple of decades of his life, he clearly recognized the paradox of slavery in a nation founded on notions of liberty, and the main reasons he didn’t go further were immediate realities (mainly, not dividing what was a very fragile new nation) coinciding with the widely held belief at the time that slavery was on the way out anyway rather than a belief that the institution was long-term tenable-or desirable.

    It is noteworthy that while Washington was by all accounts a demanding, occasionally harsh master, he was also the only slave-holding Founding Father to emancipate all of his slaves posthumously upon the death of his wife. It seems as though he went the opposite route that the younger Jefferson, who lived to see the Missouri Compromise, did: Jefferson started out as someone deeply uncomfortable with the institution of slavery but became a proto fire-eater defender of the institution by the end of his life. It’s also noteworthy that Jefferson accepted the innate inferiority of black people, while Washington (and Madison) rejected that idea.

    • Replies: @Sam Malone
  141. nebulafox says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Moreover, the German conservatives thought they could use Hitler. They were out of their league. Hitler’s political skills were simply on a different level than theirs. And Hitler had no intention of being controlled anybody, least of all a bunch of stuffy, self-absorbed upper-class Prussian peacocks who thought that he needed to be “put in his place” after nipping the Sozis and Commies in the bud, and underestimated him to the degree that they didn’t exactly bother to hide it. No, he was going to use them instead, not the other way around: and that’s exactly what he did.

    I don’t see someone from the Democratic nut fringe that has the kind of political skills and charisma that Hitler had, or the same kind of coherent organization that he used.

  142. @peterike

    A popular but embattled right-wing president, hated by the press, but supported by a silent majority…

    Race riots and domestic terrorism…

    The establishment left trying to ride the tiger of left-wing extremism, and failing, with a divided convention foisting a far-left candidate on them…

    Wow, Steve’s right: history is repeating itself!

  143. Keypusher says:
    @prime noticer

    Google “front porch campaign”. Basically William Jennings Bryan invented presidential campaigning.

  144. MBlanc46 says:
    @Anonymous

    I hope that you won’t miss that $6700 too much.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  145. @nebulafox

    Of course it was a Prussian who tried to assassinate that freakish, fanatical Austrian corporal in 1944.

    This sterotype of Prussians being stuffy, self-absorbed and so on is, well… a stereotype.

    The puny, Chaplinesque creep from Austria did put one over on the German officer class initially, but that didn’t last.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  146. MBlanc46 says:
    @Ed

    White women are not long in the sense department.

    • Replies: @Alden
  147. Alden says:
    @BenKenobi

    Girls of legal drinking age or who can realistically pass for legal drinking age are found in Vancouver bars by men who prefer 19- 35 year old women.

    It’s difficult to find 13-16 year old short, slim, flat chested girls who look younger than they are in Vancouver bars.

    There are thousands of escorts, free lancers part timer , full time internet etc adult prostitutes in every city, just a phone call or email away and not too expensive.

    But a real short slim attractive White 14 year old minor prostitute who couldn’t possibly pass for 17 or 18 is obtainable only through a specialized agency such as the one Maxwell and Epstein ran.

    3 of their girls were 11 year old French triplets imported for just a couple days. Now that’s a pervert’s dream

  148. @nebulafox

    Right, they don’t need anyone from the Democratic nut fringe to have political skills and charisma because the “mainstream” Democrats are all taking up the “nut fringe” positions as quickly as they can.

  149. @Kibernetika

    I happened to meet someone who is the lineal descendant of one of those Prussian officers put to death for the July 1944 plot. She was an attractive young woman, but I’m sorry to say, pretty pozzed out. Likely much worse now.

  150. Alden says:
    @MBlanc46

    70-100 million White women don’t spend every weekend and 4 evenings a week sprawled on the couch, making a mess with their pizza, potato chips and snacks worshipping black athletes. Neither do we constantly talk about our black Gods and heroes when we’re not worshiping them from the couch. Nor is it White women’s black worshipping religious fervor that gives them the multi billion dollar tax funded waste of money stadiums and multi million dollar salaries which they use to express hatred and disdain for their White male worshippers

    You like sports? Walk down to the nearest playground and actually shoot hoops by yourself. Look on the internet, ask around, call your local Park and Rec department and find an amateur team for your age group and sport preference. They’re a lot of fun. Meet new friends, drink beer and eat pizza at a bar after the games and play the sport of your choice

    Question Are those blacks really, really, really so much better than White athletes? Or are they selected by the billionaire Jewish owners of the teams because they are black?

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  151. @MBlanc46

    He will, but he’ll miss his country more.

  152. Kronos says:
    @Kyle

    Stacey Abraham’s hasn’t got it. You take one look at her and you know she hasn’t got it.

    That’s the fear and concern. The Democrats are desperate to get 95%+ of the Black vote. They learned (at least one lesson) from 2016. (The South Asians aren’t big enough to foot this bill.) She might exactly become an Affirmative Action hire to satisfy demand for a Black V.P. The last three years have been about women and last 5 months about blacks. She fits both intersectional parameters.

  153. Well if Joe is President Hindenburg, then your average rich, white American male is Neville Chamberlain. “Look, BLM has promised us, they’ll leave us alone if we just give them a few concessions, and don’t say anything critical of minorities”

  154. I can’t imagine the Democrats erecting a giant idol of Joe, who is a rather human-scale figure.

    I dunno Steve. What do you make of this ?

  155. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    And why not, they’ve had one foreign Governator already.

  156. Hegar says:
    @Anonymous

    How will he win without Florida? It has been flooded by Puerto Ricans since the hurricane, and since the ‘rican governor deliberately let water and other aid rot on the tarmac. Also, felons can vote in Florida now. In 2016 Trump won the state with 1.3%.

    The Republican governor of Iowa will use an executive order to give felons the right to vote there. Felons are about 2.5% of the population. Trump got 51% of the vote.

    And how will Trump win when the Rust Belt doesn’t turn out for him, since he has done virtually nothing? There are plenty of voters who voted for Obama hoping he would do something different, and then voted for Trump hoping he would do something different. Mass immigration keeps flooding in and industries are still going strong in China and elsewhere.

    The only good thing Trump did for the economy was lowering the world’s highest corporate tax, aside from a few special cases in tiny nations – a tax that increased prices on all goods for Americans and foreign markets alike, making sure U.S. exports were difficult and cheaper imports to the U.S. were plentiful. Lowering it was needed, but other measures are also needed.

    The economy is terrible now, due to the interest that has to be paid for the massive loans of Bush and Obama, the never-ending wars of Bush and Obama, and Trump’s caving in many issues.

  157. guest007 says:
    @peterike

    The blame the media was an old line when it was used during the Bush I Administration.

    A great joke I heard was that when you have a 60 minute meeting with Trump you actually get 60 one minute meetings because he cannot stay on topic and will not remember what was said in the first 30 minute during the last 30 minutes.

    Everyone knew that Trump was going to be a horrible president. They just did not think that we would have any event where a competent White House was important since we had gone through the 8 years of the Obama Administration without a major crisis. When an shooter incident at an elementary school is the biggest incident, then one knows that an administration did not face a major crisis.

    A better question is didn’t lazy, incompetent, uninformed Trump just let VP Pence do all of the heavy lifting on Covid-19 and stay out of it ? Was it because President Trump is so children and immature that he could not stand anyone showing him up?

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  158. S says:
    @Yancey Ward

    Hinderberg has been on my mind a lot in the last couple of weeks. The historical parallels are eerie to say the least.

    Eerie parallels abound nowadays, such as the one between today’s global Covid virus pandemic and talk (for now) of ‘civil war’ in the United States, and the Spanish flu pandemic of a hundred years ago and the corresponding Russian Civil War.

    Another are the the close and utterly bizarre parallels at present between Rome’s First Triumvirate and today’s Trump administration.

    It will be recalled the First Triumvirate consisted of the Roman billionaire and real estate speculator Crassus, his political protege, the young up and coming Julius Caesar, and the Roman general Pompey, whom in a loose political alliance ruled over late Republican Rome.

    The Triumvirate began to unravel when the real estate speculator Crassus met his demise in an ill advised military campaign against Parthia (present day Iran).

    This was followed by civil war between Pompey and Caesar, Pompey ultimately being defeated and assassinated in Egypt.

    Julius Caesar was then on top and declared dictator for life, heralding the formal end of the Roman republic, and setting the template in place for the Roman Empire and it’s emperors to follow. The ‘rest is history’ as they say.

    Today we have the billionaire and real estate speculator Donald Trump and his clashing with Iran, the military veteran Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State, and Trump’s political protege, the young up and coming Jared Kushner, all in a political alliance ruling over a New Rome, the United States.

    The Diplomat in Spain article linked and excerpted below explores the Pompey/Pompeo parallels in depth. The name Pompeo is simply the original Italian of the ‘Anglicized’ Pompey. Physically, Pompeo looks almost like the reincarnation of Pompey, who is on the far right of the First Triumvirate statuary below.
    L to R, Julius Caesar, Crassus, and Pompey

    In this way, from his behavior and surname emerges the figure of a historic character, because Pompeo in Italian means nothing more and nothing less than Pompey.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Triumvirate

    https://thediplomatinspain.com/en/2018/11/pompeo-and-pompey/

  159. @Charlotte

    I kinda doubt that Dr. (PhD Ed.) Jill Biden will be chomping at the bit to give up being First Lady and the de facto president.

  160. @Kyle

    Stacey Abrahams is too much of a loud mouth loose cannon, which you don’t want in a VP. You want someone like Pence, who dresses well, has nice hair, and is otherwise invisible.

  161. Art Deco says:
    @guest007

    President Trump is probably the dumbest president the U.S. has ever had.

    Well, lessee.

    1. Franklin Roosevelt: practiced law for about five years (most of that time in a 3 person firm) and worked for a half-dozen years for a finance company that needed a political connection.

    2. Harry Truman: earned a living a variety of ways over the period running from 1902 to 1927, the most onerous being his father’s not-very-prosperous farm (whose failures puzzled their neighbors) and the one most personally challenging to him being his not-very-prosperous haberdashery shop.

    3. John Kennedy: had a stint in the Navy followed by seven months as a wire-service reporter.

    4. Lyndon Johnson: two years as a schoolteacher in Texas.

    5. Richard Nixon: a failed effort in the food processing business followed by three years as an associate in a transactional law practice, followed by a brief tour in the federal civil service, followed by fairly uneventful Navy service, followed by another brief tour in law practice. Later, landed a spot in a New York law firm looking for a political connection. Very much fancied on these boards, perhaps for his 143 IQ. Alas, it’s a matter of inescapable public record the man had no skills as an executive, and no business being in any kind of executive position.

    6. Gerald Ford: Worked in his father’s business, practiced law for about seven years in a two lawyer firm. Had not-very-eventful Navy service.

    7. Jimmy Carter: Trained engineer; US Navy for seven years, then ran family businesses (warehouse, gas station) for about 10 years before turning them over to his brother to run.

    8. Ronald Reagan: radio announcer turned screen actor; knew something of the business side of motion pictures from negotiating union contracts.

    9. George Bush the Elder: impressive Navy service; built a modest business in a part of the world to which he was a stranger before cashing in at age 39.

    10. Bill Clinton: three years as a law professor. Published nothing

    11. George Bush the Younger: mixed career in business, 1975-94; one enterprise flopped, the other was quite lucrative, but it was a business wherein political connections mattered.

    12. Barack Obama: prorating seasonal and part-time work, practiced law for about four years as an associate in a 12 person firm. Again, prorating, taught for about five years; he published no scholarly articles, taught only boutique courses, and did not participate in faculty committees. Ran the Chicago Annenberg Challenge into the ground.

    I’m just overwhelmed with their brilliance and accomplishment.

  162. @nebulafox

    It’s also noteworthy that Jefferson accepted the innate inferiority of black people, while Washington (and Madison) rejected that idea.

    Good god, that doesn’t say much for Washington’s and Madison’s common sense, or ability to see what was right in front of their eyes as Southerners around blacks all their lives. Or did people even back then tend to bend over backwards to give blacks the benefit of the doubt and voice optimistic opinions about their ability to function? If so, the white race may be even more deeply screwed up than I realized.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  163. MBlanc46 says:
    @Alden

    Touched a nerve, apparently.

  164. @guest007

    ” Everyone knew that Trump was going to be a horrible president”

    And just why the fuck are you speaking for me : “Everyone”. Speak for yourself.

    He is walking a tightrope without a net, on one foot and juggling a dozen watermelons with one hand while holding up a bullseye with the other, while dodging the relentless salvos of hate and lunacy being fired at him.

    He is the most endangered president in the history of the nation and he gets up every morning without flinching and ready for battle with the insane, dissolute assholes otherwise known as “Democrats”.

    I think that he is the most courageous pres in US history, basta.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qulaified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

    • Replies: @guest007
  165. guest007 says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Based upon his incompetent campaign staffing and a textbook example of a bad tranistion, everyone who paid attention new is was going to be a bad four years. Your only argument is that the Democrats would have been worse on whatever issue you think is important.

    However, can you say that we are better off today than we were four years ago? Have you already forgotten it took three tries to do the simple staffing of the stopping immigration from failed Islamic states? Have you forgotten that the Trump Administratin will add as much to the national debt in four years that Obama or GW Bush added in eight years?

    Trump is not juggling anything because he does not have the discipline to ever learn how to juggle. He is an incompetent narcissistic sociopath who surround himself with incompetent staffers. To me, the best argument to vote for Biden is that is the only way to get Jared Kushner and Ivanka out of the White House.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  166. @guest007

    “To me, the best argument to vote for Biden is that is the only way to get Jared Kushner and Ivanka out of the white”

    Don’t you see the blatent contradiction in your own faulty reasoning? :

    If you get JK and I out of the WH by electing Biden you end up with the total democrat package meaning myriads of leftist nutcases and their leftist madness, reparations on down.

    I guess this is simply too much for you to mentally handle

    AJM

    • Replies: @guest007
  167. guest007 says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    I would argue that the best way to revive an actual conservative party in the U.S. would be for the Democrats to push for reparations, forced busing, quotas, and much higher taxes.

    However, if you were worried about somehing like reparations then why are you not worried about the failure of the CDC the 8a contractor that was responsible for the failure of the Covid-19 sampling tests.

  168. nebulafox says:
    @Sam Malone

    I disagree. Slavery does degrade many an individual, just like war does.

    This doesn’t mean I buy Gould-style blank-slate theory, because, well, basic evolution. But sociology is complicated and there’s seldom one straight answer for any problem. Even the IQ question that commentators are so fond of here fails to touch on how numbers often make that irrelevant for individuals (Africa’s got billions of people, you are inevitably going to find people with high IQs, even if you don’t find them as often as you do in China), or that average intelligence levels can shift with the centuries. I’m pretty certain that China had a higher average IQ during the high Qing than during the late 19th Century, or that Germany’s average IQ took a beating during the Thirty Year’s War. Dysgenics does happen.

    >Or did people even back then tend to bend over backwards to give blacks the benefit of the doubt and voice optimistic opinions about their ability to function?

    Do you see black middle class people or upwardly mobile African/Caribbean immigrants going out and committing homicides on the level of underclass “native” black men in their 20s? They function just fine. Culture is the most important thing in the end.

    It’s as I said earlier: we’ve got maybe 1% of the country committing over half the murders once you filter out women, under 16s/above 35s, and people above a basic level of socioeconomic attainment, and this in a context where American whites are far more violent than their European counterparts. This makes the media efforts to deny this reality look even more ridiculous, not less.

  169. Anonymous[215] • Disclaimer says:

    Ha, I’d been thinking the same thing. (I obviously don’t read you every day, only every couple weeks; sorry?)

    For me, I thought this also because 20 years ago Strauss & Howe mentioned the possibility of such a thing. For them it was a generational issue: Old person from generation born during crisis (Hindenburg: “The Hungry ’40s”; Biden: Depression/War) allied with younger person from generation neglected in childhood/youth whose members therefore learned to wheel, deal and manipulate (Hitler: “lost generation”; person Strauss & Howe predicted: gen X).

    They of course weren’t saying any gen X person some old war baby thought they could control would be *Hitler*; they were just saying said gen X person would end up being the one in charge and able to enact their agenda, whatever that might be.

    They predicted this could happen around 80 years after the previous crisis. So now is 7 years later than their approximate prediction but still, close enough that I thought of it.

    BTW: I tried to use a unique handle, but got an error probably because I use a VPN (due to you know this being here). Oh well!

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