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From the Minnesota Post:
How the junior senator from Minnesota came to be Democrats’ No. 1 fundraiser
By Sam Brodey | 05/04/16
From Vanity Fair:
WHY PRESIDENT AL FRANKEN ISN’T A JOKE
Will the Minnesota senator emerge as the leader that the Democratic Party desperately needs?
BY MICHAEL KINSLEY
FEBRUARY 24, 2017 5:30 PMBut there’s one Democratic senator whom everybody knows and almost everybody likes, irrespective of party, and that’s Al Franken, of Minnesota. Franken is well known, of course, not because of his years in the Senate, but for his years on Saturday Night Live, where he often played a character named Al Franken. The character called Al Franken would occasionally say things that a Senate candidate named Al Franken would not. Nor would the Senate candidate Al Franken necessarily want every word he uttered when brainstorming with other writers on S.N.L. to become public.
Indeed.
Franken’s opponent in his first Senate campaign, in 2008, tried to make an issue of all this—thinking, or at least hoping, that the clean-living people of Minnesota might find the whole business a bit postmodern.
It almost worked. Franken had to go through a recount and a state Supreme Court battle before taking his seat several months late. He was comfortably re-elected in 2014.
This is Al Franken’s moment.
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Al Franken is likely to be the successor to Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid — a highly successful fundraiser and Democrat Lord but not the King. THAT crown will only go to a Black man or woman. Democrats MUST HAVE massive Black turnout and lots of young White Women; old Cankle-Pants did not do it and neither would a fussy old man who is Jewish to boot (not KEWL! among the College set where Muslims are the rage).
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. “Dreamboat” like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries — they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee — someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie’s Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother’s charm and competence and her father’s trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I’m not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today’s America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.
Maybe this is why the Dems are pushing Jon Ossoff in Georgia so much. Except because of his age, he won't be eligible to run for president until 2024.
Sorry, no. Obama could not have got in without massive white support, and there will be no repeat of this, therefore no more black male Presidents in the near or medium future.
Oprah is a wild card, admittedly.
But, unless Trump is unable to get his tax plan done, they all will be finishing behind him in 2020. And that includes Oprah.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/128930629301/odds-of-a-kanye-west-presidency-90Replies: @Alden
Now all the American voters need is an Al Franken – Chelsea Clinton debate. That would induce mass depression as citizens lament the end of the Republic. And you thought Arnold Schwartzenegger and Jesse Ventura were aberrations! Just shoot me now.
Is the author of this piece that Michael Kinsley? Yes it is.
Kinsley was on Crossfire in approx the same era as Franken on SNL.
Franken will have to get past Mark Cuban, Oprah, and –wait for it– … Joe Biden.
http://keywiki.org/Category:Secretary_of_State_ProjectOne of the secretaries of state supported/elected as a result:http://keywiki.org/Mark_Ritchie
http://keywiki.org/Mark_Ritchie#2006_CampaignThis will require more digging and less innuendo...but the Dems are opening themselves up to a merdestorm if they're bankin' on Franken.Kamala Harris methinks.
One thing I have learned in life is that nobody on earth finds Al Franken’s “Stuart Smalley” character as funny as Al Franken does.
Few remember that a movie was made about that character, called “Stuart Saves His Family”. I do, because I purchased a VHS copy of it at a garage sale for ten cents.
You might be thinking that this would be just another intermittently amusing SNL movie, but it actually isn’t. What it is is a very earnest drama about a dysfunctional family, that also has an incongruous caricature walking through it, thereby ruining it as both comedy and drama.
I wish I had something more relevant to say about Al Franken, but I don’t, and I can’t imagine anyone else does either, since, as far as I can tell, his whole platform is just boilerplate Clinton-style Democratic party crap.
Al Franken = presidential timber
Kidding. When is the last time America elected a president who wears glasses ALL OR MOST of the time?
I predict loads of synthetic antisemitic stagecraft to boost the Franken campaign.
Interesting question. The answer is Truman, in 1948, though Johnson was often photographed wearing glasses.
It is notable post TV how cosmeticized American politics became. Its also more cosmetized than in other countries, where you still get bald men with successful political careers sometimes. Its remarkable that Americans seemed to be OK with Trump's ridiculous hairstyle but apparently have no tolerance for outright bald pols.
Contacts and now lasik surgery also makes wearing glasses less likely if your job requires you to appear on TV alot.Replies: @Art Deco, @Sam Haysom, @David Davenport
" ...loads of synthetic antisemitic stagecraft ..."
Nicely put syntactic paradigm.
I think it’ll be Elizabeth Warren. From the DNC’s standpoint, Warren is good on all the social issues: feminism, LGBTQ stuff, attacking the Haven Monahans, bringing in more Muslims, etc. And unlike Hillary, Warren will be able to fool some of the Bernie supporters into believing that she’s serious about regulating Wall Street, breaking up the big banks, coming up with the greatest healthcare plan of all time, raising the minimum wage, etc. If Trump doesn’t come through on the wall, or if he starts another stupid war, no one’s going to care about Warren’s Native American ancestry.
I suspect that smarter, more strategic-thinking Democrats realize that, unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he's probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can't avoid now, and that they won't resolve in only 4 years. Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn't identify most of the time as a Democrat.
The thing I worry about is Trump realizing the same thing, and figuring that his best bets to both reelection as well as fulfilling any kind of agenda is more and more morphing into a standard-issue cuckservative, neocon Republican. He promised the wall again today at the NRA as well, and, hopefully, if nothing else the number of times he's promised it will turn into a "No new taxes"-type pledge for him (that could be fatal in 2020 for him to abandon). I would take the wall (and the successful crackdown on immigration it signifies), Gorsuch and maybe one or two other SCOTUS justices, some good movement on the 2nd Amendment, and no major commitments of American ground troops in combat anywhere, and call Trump a successful President, pretty much no matter what else happens.Replies: @JohnnyD, @hhsiii, @Anon, @neutral, @Romanian, @AnotherDad
Sure, just what we ordinary Americans need: Frankenpresident.
Sadly, Tom Davis is not with us, otherwise he would have been a natural for veep.
Hillary will try and get the nomination in 2020. I know, “No way”. Yes way, she is that unhinged.
https://youtu.be/_DErurte4CE
Chelsea might be given a safe congressional seat before 2020 but can she make the leap into the big time? Daddy was a smooth-talking Son of a Whore who was lucky enough to make it to the White House - - - thanks to Ross Perot and his 19%, George HW Bush never knew what hit him! The daughter of Webster Hubbel (Chelsea) looks like a prohibitive longshot at this point in time. As Manhattan goes, so goes Beverly Hills!Replies: @Daniel H
I, bored identity, Think That Boschwitz/Wellstone/Coleman/Franken Is The Greatest Senator Ever Elected, And He Should Continue To Over-represent Minnesota’s Huddled Masses, Nice White Ladies &Their Cucked Hubbies (All Of Them Being Descendents of Nordic Nazi Scum, Anyway), ‘Till Armageddon Hits the Fan.
“I know a guy, I think the people in this state do too, [current California Lt. Gov.] Gavin Newsome,” he said to applause. “This guy should be president. He can win. He’s going to be governor in 2018, and I know that’s a short time to be governor before a four-year run — I don’t give a f*ck. His slogan should be ‘Hello, I must be going. Nice to stop by California, but I got other things to do.’” – http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/i-got-a-guy-bill-maher-predicts-2020-democratic-presidential-candidate-if-they-dont-fck-it-up/
– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Newsom
– https://www.unz.com/isteve/jewish-country-club-might-blackball-obama/#comment-1724021
A Newsom-Baldwin Democratic ticket for 2020?
Joanna Newsom “Make Hay” (Official Lyric Video)
And I'm repeatedly reminded of Man Lubin' Other Man being somehow esthetically superior to their heterosexual counterparts.
Fake Anusment.
Trump seems to think it might be Elizabeth Warren too. He name-checked “Pocahontas” today at the NRA conference. He’s going to keep hitting her.
I suspect that smarter, more strategic-thinking Democrats realize that, unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he’s probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can’t avoid now, and that they won’t resolve in only 4 years. Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn’t identify most of the time as a Democrat.
The thing I worry about is Trump realizing the same thing, and figuring that his best bets to both reelection as well as fulfilling any kind of agenda is more and more morphing into a standard-issue cuckservative, neocon Republican. He promised the wall again today at the NRA as well, and, hopefully, if nothing else the number of times he’s promised it will turn into a “No new taxes”-type pledge for him (that could be fatal in 2020 for him to abandon). I would take the wall (and the successful crackdown on immigration it signifies), Gorsuch and maybe one or two other SCOTUS justices, some good movement on the 2nd Amendment, and no major commitments of American ground troops in combat anywhere, and call Trump a successful President, pretty much no matter what else happens.
Trump is fretting over North Korea, Iran, and jihadists in Afghanistan, while his supporters are being attacked in the streets and prevented from speaking in public. You can't get much more cuckserative than that!
The only question is - will it happen now and be Obama's mistake, just like the fake recovery Trump was trying to take credit for is argued in the media as Obama's merit? Or later, and be Trump's recession? I do not think the economy has 3 years in it before the correction kicks in.Replies: @Yak-15
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
Bingo. Following Obama up with a whiny, nerdy, 69 year-old, white, Jewish guy from Minnesota who was on Saturday Night Live 20 years ago (and was relatively unmemorable there at that) is not gonna happen. The fact that it’s even being talked about shows how dumb and disconnected the NPR-listening wise people of the Democratic Party are from even their own voters.
"white, Jewish guy". "white, Jewish guy". If you say it three times, an Angel gets it's wings.
:)
VoxDay posted a short blog last February about the future of the Democratic Party. http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2017/02/the-future-of-democratic-party.html
It’ll take a black or hispanic woman to get the next Dem nomination.
So, it’ll be Elizabeth Warren.
She’s already transitioned from a white woman to an American Indian woman and then back again, with not a whimper of objection from Dem voters. So I’m guessing she can become black quite easily.
Al Franken is really dumb. Too dumb to be a credible candidate for Dem nominee.
The strange thing with Minnesotan senators is that 4 out of the last 5 have been Jewish. Yet Jews are only 1% of the state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Minneapolis#Politics.2C_corruption.2C_anti-Semitism_and_social_changeReplies: @bored identity
lumberplywood king with whom suburbanites could easily identify. Hell, in many cases he built their houses. Also, he was one of the GOP's best rainmakers. He used to quip that nobody likes the job of fundraising-- except him.Wellstone was an academic, the cool-nerd prof that students fall for. The proto-Bernie: as with Sanders (and Dylan) it was the goyim who gushed over him.
Coleman was a DFL turncoat, nominally good on guns and abortions (probably because he didn't care much about either), and he won reelection in St Paul as a Republican. (Or "Independent-Republican". The party's name reverted about that time.) Note that he was competitive with Jesse Ventura till the end; it was HHH III who finished a distant IIIrd.
The Jewishness of these guys never came up, except in the first Boschwitz-Wellstone campaign. Everyone got all hot-and-bothered because a Jewish Boschwitz backer wrote a letter to other Jews saying that Wellstone was "less of a Jew" than Boschwitz, because his kids were being raised Christian. (As if modern Presbyterians were Christian in any way.)Replies: @guest
I suspect that smarter, more strategic-thinking Democrats realize that, unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he's probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can't avoid now, and that they won't resolve in only 4 years. Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn't identify most of the time as a Democrat.
The thing I worry about is Trump realizing the same thing, and figuring that his best bets to both reelection as well as fulfilling any kind of agenda is more and more morphing into a standard-issue cuckservative, neocon Republican. He promised the wall again today at the NRA as well, and, hopefully, if nothing else the number of times he's promised it will turn into a "No new taxes"-type pledge for him (that could be fatal in 2020 for him to abandon). I would take the wall (and the successful crackdown on immigration it signifies), Gorsuch and maybe one or two other SCOTUS justices, some good movement on the 2nd Amendment, and no major commitments of American ground troops in combat anywhere, and call Trump a successful President, pretty much no matter what else happens.Replies: @JohnnyD, @hhsiii, @Anon, @neutral, @Romanian, @AnotherDad
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Trump is fretting over North Korea, Iran, and jihadists in Afghanistan, while his supporters are being attacked in the streets and prevented from speaking in public. You can’t get much more cuckserative than that!
If I were the Dems, I’d try to recruit Nikki Haley to switch parties in return for offering to grease the skids for her nomination. Let’s say Trump finally succeeds in getting a Muslim ban or the wall built. Haley could resign and switch parties using that as a pretext, borrowing Reagan’s old line about why he switched parties.
Haley is a woman, “of color” (not transparent), was a governor, and now has international experience as UN ambassador. It’s a nice resume, and she’s aligned with the Democrats on all the big issues (diversity, immigration, trade, etc.). And as an Indian American, she can tap into a donor base of the country’s highest-earning ethnic group.
So, it'll be Elizabeth Warren.
She's already transitioned from a white woman to an American Indian woman and then back again, with not a whimper of objection from Dem voters. So I'm guessing she can become black quite easily.Replies: @JL
What about Tulsi Gabbard? She checks all the boxes. If Franken does actually run he’ll guaranteed be knocked out in the primaries.
The perfect candidate to appeal to a majority of Americans.
So, we can be sure the Dems will not nominate her.
Dave Miller in SacramentoReplies: @JL, @Marat, @Anonymous
She'll face a well funded primary challenge in 2018.
Also, she isn't Christian (although she seems to be the only person in Congress who cares about Middle East Christians). That makes her non viable as a presidential candidate.
Or maybe I am just fantasizing about ripping off her clothes in the moonlight on the Hawaiian sand.Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
Let’s go Rabid Puppies a la Vox Day in the Democratic primaries in 2020, cross party lines, and ensure a vocal anti-white vibrant wrests control of the DNC from liberal whites once-and-‘fer-awwwlllll!
It would be beautiful, with Trump safely the GOP nominee, for the alt-right/proud boys/VFM/woke whites to put an increasingly verbally-tourrette vibrant like Keith Ellison forward as the Democratic nominee.
Minnesota is being punished for being the birthplace of Charles Lindbergh and once the capital of anti-Semitism in the US:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Minneapolis#Politics.2C_corruption.2C_anti-Semitism_and_social_change
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/but-they-were-good-to-their-people/2/Replies: @Ganderson
Jones for prez?
I suspect that smarter, more strategic-thinking Democrats realize that, unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he's probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can't avoid now, and that they won't resolve in only 4 years. Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn't identify most of the time as a Democrat.
The thing I worry about is Trump realizing the same thing, and figuring that his best bets to both reelection as well as fulfilling any kind of agenda is more and more morphing into a standard-issue cuckservative, neocon Republican. He promised the wall again today at the NRA as well, and, hopefully, if nothing else the number of times he's promised it will turn into a "No new taxes"-type pledge for him (that could be fatal in 2020 for him to abandon). I would take the wall (and the successful crackdown on immigration it signifies), Gorsuch and maybe one or two other SCOTUS justices, some good movement on the 2nd Amendment, and no major commitments of American ground troops in combat anywhere, and call Trump a successful President, pretty much no matter what else happens.Replies: @JohnnyD, @hhsiii, @Anon, @neutral, @Romanian, @AnotherDad
Trump is the wall. Immigration is already way down. They’re scared of him.
If all THE TRUMPSTER does is talk tough, then the country will be worse off than it was under George W. Bush because now the hour is very late and the Third-World has been steadily gaining ground in the US since the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act. All the Dems will have to do is wait until 2020 and harvest the rotten political apples that will surely fall from the trees.
Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and Pennsylania were all states that Trump won by razor-thin margins in 2016 - - - it was something of a miracle that he snatched victory from the jaws of defeat - - - he couldn't have won without Hillary's help! 4 years of tough talk and only tough talk means that Trump loses in 2020, even to some multi-racial Joe Blow idiot Democrat.
Bob Dylan, the Coen brothers, all those senators. Seems like they do ok there.
It’s hard to even imagine how intensely the media would applaud Franken’s every sneering jab at racist white proles. If he runs, win or lose it will certainly dial up America’s internal hatred pressure several more notches.
Jerry Brown has promised huge tax increases so he sounds like the ideal Leftist leader:
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/03/31/gov-jerry-brown-democrats-stick-it-to-working-poor-with-huge-tax-increase/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIqESwzCGg4
Tulsi Gabbard might be too anti-war for today’s Dems.
"This is a disgrace. Gabbard should not be in Congress." Howard Dean, reacting to Gabbard's questioning whether there was sufficient (any) evidence that Assad was guilty of the April 4th chemical attack.
And a non-Citizen.
“Following Obama up with a whiny, nerdy, 69 year-old, white, Jewish guy”.
“white, Jewish guy”. “white, Jewish guy”. If you say it three times, an Angel gets it’s wings.
🙂
No chance the Dem nom will be Franken.
If Biden wants it, it is his for sure. If no Biden the contenders are Newsom and Booker, and Newsom will crush Booker as all the non blacks will join forces to keep Booker out. Booker will be the VP.
It’s gonna be a tough ticket to beat.
Gosh damn Steve I'm not sure which is worst that you let through: these black pill trolls or the black male fetishists like tiny duck.
Its more likely that Hilary would run again, since she would be comparatively young (heh) and seems to be positioning herself for another run (stumble?).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Minneapolis#Politics.2C_corruption.2C_anti-Semitism_and_social_changeReplies: @bored identity
When Galicia sent its people, they’ were sending… the ones that are good to their people:
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/but-they-were-good-to-their-people/2/
And what about Minneapolis circa 1990-2020?
Sixty percent of population is still of Scandinavian/German origin, with- over the last three decades imported – tens of thousands of 75-IQ , ISIS sympathizing Somali goat herders, as Boschwitz/Wellstone/Coleman/Franken were/are being Minneapolis’ People’s Senators during the same period.
I suspect that smarter, more strategic-thinking Democrats realize that, unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he's probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can't avoid now, and that they won't resolve in only 4 years. Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn't identify most of the time as a Democrat.
The thing I worry about is Trump realizing the same thing, and figuring that his best bets to both reelection as well as fulfilling any kind of agenda is more and more morphing into a standard-issue cuckservative, neocon Republican. He promised the wall again today at the NRA as well, and, hopefully, if nothing else the number of times he's promised it will turn into a "No new taxes"-type pledge for him (that could be fatal in 2020 for him to abandon). I would take the wall (and the successful crackdown on immigration it signifies), Gorsuch and maybe one or two other SCOTUS justices, some good movement on the 2nd Amendment, and no major commitments of American ground troops in combat anywhere, and call Trump a successful President, pretty much no matter what else happens.Replies: @JohnnyD, @hhsiii, @Anon, @neutral, @Romanian, @AnotherDad
“unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he’s probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can’t avoid now, and that they won’t resolve in only 4 years. ”
I find it incredible that anyone could actually believe that.
First, Trump’s approval rating is hovering around 40%; he’s bordering on being very unpopular as it is.
Second, the guy has already betrayed his base on pretty much everything: the wall, immigration, refugees, NAFTA, free trade (offered to negotiate a trade deal with the EU – and watch his Goldman Sachs economics advisors bring back the TPP and claim that “it’s all fixed now”), healthcare, etc. Currently, his buds in the GOP are scheming to cut key – and very popular – provisions of the ACA that could result in millions of people loosing their healthcare for reasons such as preexisting conditions.
Third, the GOP and Trump are cooking up Bush-style tax cuts for the rich that will greatly increase the deficit. Along with financial deregulation, he’s setting the country up for another crash.
Fourth, he lost the last popular vote by almost 3 million and barely skated by in many industrial states. Now that he may betray those voters by not renegotiating NAFTA and passing tax cuts for the rich, do you really think he’ll have any chance there again?
Fifth, Trump only won because Gary Johnson sucked a lot of votes away from Hillary. She was the second most unpopular nominee in modern history and she still almost won. Don’t count on that effect happening again. I mean, what “realignment” are you referring to anyway? A realignment of Mid-Western and Rust Belt working class people to the republican party? Ha! Don’t count on it after the guy repeals the ACA and replaces it with nothing, and then passes a HUGE, deficit destroying, tax cut for the rich – all while not renegotiating NAFTA, signing a free trade deal with the EU, and not pushing to increase the minimum wage.
Sixth, Hillary was his dream opponent. He couldn’t have gotten any luckier in that respect.
And all of that is just a small list: he’s against Net Neutrality (hello censorship of controversial websites), could potentially involve our country in another Middle Eastern war, maybe with Iran or Syria…or God forbid, North Korea, has screwed millions of young people over with his student loan repayment regulations…and on and on.
Trump is a joke. Anyone who thinks he isn’t floundering badly needs to get out more.
“Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn’t identify most of the time as a Democrat.”
That 75-year-old socialist is only about 5 years older than Trump himself and is WAY more popular. He beats Trump handily in most opinion polls because majorities of Americans support many of his proposals. Americans, by a wide margin, support higher taxes on the rich and oppose entitlement spending cuts. Only in places like Oklahoma do people consider support of the second amendment higher on the food chain than economic issues.
If the Democrats could find a white, populist Southern democrat (admittedly difficult), he’d beat Trump by about 30 points; it’d be the biggest landslide since Bush back in 88. Trump was the least bad choice for many people, so don’t think that he’s any kind of shoe in for reelection.
Then I got to the end, and this:
"If the Democrats could find a white, populist Southern democrat (admittedly difficult), he’d beat Trump by about 30 points; it’d be the biggest landslide since Bush back in 88."
First of all, if anyone won a presidential election "by about 30 points," it would be the biggest landslide since, roughly, ever. The usual benchmark for modern presidential landslides is LBJ over Goldwater in 1964. Don't they teach this sort of thing in Poli Sci 101 today?
Second, the Democrats had a "white, populist Southern democrat" in the 2016 race. His name was Jim Webb, and he didn't make it to New Hampshire. Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?
So no, I can't take you or your analysis seriously. I see why you post anonymously.Replies: @Anon, @Alden, @Anon, @Anon
JL wrote:
Let’s see: she is ex-military but anti-war. She is articulate, attractive, and independent and willing to work across party lines.
The perfect candidate to appeal to a majority of Americans.
So, we can be sure the Dems will not nominate her.
Dave Miller in Sacramento
Franken would be a very problematic candidate. In his book “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them”, he makes a series of startling admissions, like being disciplined for using Harvard stationary in an attempt to trick the children of his political opponents into divulging the details of their first sexual encounter (truly disgusting). He also disparages Southerners to the point where it would be open season on Jews in retaliation if he ran nationally. But there’s also another interesting admission Franken made in his book: he recounts watching blacks being oppressed by evil Southerners and explains that this is why he, as a Jew, and his family are democrats – out of racial solidarity. Interesting, Franken goes on to explain in his book that he supports Israel “because it is a democracy” while recounting some lame story about performing some Jewish rite. No mention of Palestinian oppression by Israel, though.
Haley is a woman, "of color" (not transparent), was a governor, and now has international experience as UN ambassador. It's a nice resume, and she's aligned with the Democrats on all the big issues (diversity, immigration, trade, etc.). And as an Indian American, she can tap into a donor base of the country's highest-earning ethnic group.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Art Deco
That would be like the Republicans nominating Zell Miller in 1996.
The perfect candidate to appeal to a majority of Americans.
So, we can be sure the Dems will not nominate her.
Dave Miller in SacramentoReplies: @JL, @Marat, @Anonymous
Maybe you’re right, but I think the 2016 elections changed the political landscape for good. Were she to declare, and garner a critical mass of support, the establishment would have a much harder time quashing her candidacy than it did with Sanders’ (and even that wasn’t as easy as it should’ve been). Her appeal, as you note, is much broader. What she’d actually be able to accomplish in office is another story, of course.
Might be?
“This is a disgrace. Gabbard should not be in Congress.” Howard Dean, reacting to Gabbard’s questioning whether there was sufficient (any) evidence that Assad was guilty of the April 4th chemical attack.
It’s her turn…yet again.
Franken lost in election night, however over the next few days several additional boxes of votes were found.
Fire some reason the article didn’t mention that part of the tale.
If Biden wants it, it is his for sure. If no Biden the contenders are Newsom and Booker, and Newsom will crush Booker as all the non blacks will join forces to keep Booker out. Booker will be the VP.
It's gonna be a tough ticket to beat.Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jack Hanson, @Clyde, @Art Deco, @gda
Biden’s a joke and an old man. Newsom-Booker looks pretty strong.
“Tapping Minnesota and Hollywood for cash”
Hollywood but not New York cash? And not a little old Miami cash? What gives?
Minnesota cash is a euphemism for who exactly? The Coen Brothers? Seriously, who are they talking about?
Top 5 Franken contributers include #1 Susman Godfrey LLP of New Yawk City
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00029016
#2 industry is lawyers, #1 industry, the envelope please ... is retired, aka Miami you know who.
Actually, Hollywood seems underrepresented, but then again Franken was small screen.
Franken had to go through a recount because he finished second. The vote was sufficiently close to mandate the recount. Not so amazingly, enough missing ballots were found and enough discarded that his total was highest. The Minnesota Supreme Court, also not surprisingly found in his favor because it’s stacked with Democrats.
Yeah I don’t think so. Not even the democrats are going to run the only man less likeable than Hillary Clinton. I’m sure Trump has already given orders to secretly fund Franken’s campaign.
If they’re smart they’re running a negro. But artculate negros are few and far between, which is why everybody treated Obama like he was a genius. Luckily for them, Trump’s voters won’t be making that mistake a second time so whoever they run can take it easy.
“Tapping Minnesota and Hollywood for cash”
Top 5 Franken contributers include #1 Susman Godfrey LLP of New Yawk City
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00029016
#2 industry is lawyers, #1 industry, the envelope please … is retired, aka Miami you know who.
Actually, Hollywood seems underrepresented, but then again Franken was small screen.
Maybe the Democrats can also try reaching out to the Green Party types, and help prevent “third party spoilers” on the left, by having him pick that party’s 2016 nominee as his running mate. Franken/Stein 2020: shocking new life into the Democratic Party.
Hillary turned 69 in October, 2016. September 5 through 11, 2016 were days of HELL for her. What the voters saw were a series of terrifying seizures, ending in a complete collapse in Manhattan on Sept. 11, 2016. That empty shoe on the sidewalk was the photo worth 1,000 words of 2016.
By upping Hillary’s medication, the Democrat candidate was able to get through the end of September and all of October. Hillary is more unhinged than a rotting barn door but the Democrats have learned their lesson. They will not run a 73-year old, corrupt White lady who needs a walker and a nurse’s aid to get around. 22% of the Black vote was a no-show last year. Hillary, 2020? Probably 35% of the Black vote stays in bed, come November – – – or sooner, in the primary season.
Chelsea might be given a safe congressional seat before 2020 but can she make the leap into the big time? Daddy was a smooth-talking Son of a Whore who was lucky enough to make it to the White House – – – thanks to Ross Perot and his 19%, George HW Bush never knew what hit him! The daughter of Webster Hubbel (Chelsea) looks like a prohibitive longshot at this point in time.
As Manhattan goes, so goes Beverly Hills!
Where is there evidence that the Democrats ever learn, or that the Republicans learn, for that matter. Republicans tried to force Jeb upon us. There are good odds that Hillary will claw here way to the front, intimidating all the media folk, and secure the nomination. I know that such a scenario is nuts, but we are living in very nutty times. The evidence of such is around you daily.Replies: @AnotherDad
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
“. . . “Dreamboat” like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ.”
Maybe this is why the Dems are pushing Jon Ossoff in Georgia so much. Except because of his age, he won’t be eligible to run for president until 2024.
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
I take the opposite view on this, him being jewish makes him a minority so that alone gives him huge points.
I suspect that smarter, more strategic-thinking Democrats realize that, unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he's probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can't avoid now, and that they won't resolve in only 4 years. Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn't identify most of the time as a Democrat.
The thing I worry about is Trump realizing the same thing, and figuring that his best bets to both reelection as well as fulfilling any kind of agenda is more and more morphing into a standard-issue cuckservative, neocon Republican. He promised the wall again today at the NRA as well, and, hopefully, if nothing else the number of times he's promised it will turn into a "No new taxes"-type pledge for him (that could be fatal in 2020 for him to abandon). I would take the wall (and the successful crackdown on immigration it signifies), Gorsuch and maybe one or two other SCOTUS justices, some good movement on the 2nd Amendment, and no major commitments of American ground troops in combat anywhere, and call Trump a successful President, pretty much no matter what else happens.Replies: @JohnnyD, @hhsiii, @Anon, @neutral, @Romanian, @AnotherDad
I see statistics how states like Georgia will become majority non white very soon, I am guessing that many other places he won also give him a razor thin demographic edge. Even if he manages to deport millions, the low white birth rates means his chances of winning dwindle every day.
Question to self : Did Hillary’s empty shoe (last seen in Manhattan on Sept. 11, 2016) wind on eBay and what was the highest bid?
Instead, I nominate Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
This website is funny because it’s outdated.
(For future beings, in acknowledgement of the inevitable link rot, it’s a Trump-Camacho 2016 parody site.)
Gabbard is a hate figure of the Deep State, Sorosites, DailyKos, HuffPo etc
She’ll face a well funded primary challenge in 2018.
Also, she isn’t Christian (although she seems to be the only person in Congress who cares about Middle East Christians). That makes her non viable as a presidential candidate.
They do? Where was I when that happened?
I remember a certain sort of half-smart guy in high school who liked Al Franken a lot in his capacity at SNL, and I never understood it. But now I think I do: he was similarly insecure about being smart in a world that–according to people who are smart, but not all that smart–undervalues intelligence. They smelled it on him, and it made them happy.
But who likes people like that?
“Franken had to go through a recount and a state Supreme Court battle before taking his seat several months late.”
Which is to say, Norm Coleman won, but was unable to win beyond the margin of fraud.
Talk tough will only get one so far. It’s a given that the Obama immigration numbers were phony. Border jumping and visa-overstays exploded under the double-talking guy from everywhere and nowhere with the forged Birth Certificate.
If all THE TRUMPSTER does is talk tough, then the country will be worse off than it was under George W. Bush because now the hour is very late and the Third-World has been steadily gaining ground in the US since the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act. All the Dems will have to do is wait until 2020 and harvest the rotten political apples that will surely fall from the trees.
Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and Pennsylania were all states that Trump won by razor-thin margins in 2016 – – – it was something of a miracle that he snatched victory from the jaws of defeat – – – he couldn’t have won without Hillary’s help! 4 years of tough talk and only tough talk means that Trump loses in 2020, even to some multi-racial Joe Blow idiot Democrat.
I’ll go out on a limb here and say that we probably aren’t even going to have elections in 2020. Not real elections, anyway. Trump will be a completely cucked, neocon, chicken-hawk, Goldman Sachs, Israel-firster by that point, utterly controlled by the Deep State, and he’ll be rubber-stamped back into office like FDR.
I'd have bet bigly against you despairing. And Lot would have taken my money.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
I’ve met Franken. Talk about an inarticulate guy without personality! Was he a math major at Harvard?? It won’t be Franken.
It will be Kamala Harris. From Wikipedia:
She will be President in four years. If the U.S. still exists. And while I was the biggest Trump supporter I’ll take her any day over this complete fraud and madman clown Trump. I hated Obama but I’d give anything to have him as President now.
It’s possible he is the nominee and maybe he would have a shot if Trump alienates the people who elected him. But if not, I think the lesson of 2016 is that without a likable non-white at the top of the ticket, the Democrats will struggle with getting enough minority turnout and thus Ohio, PA, NC, FL, and possible WI/MI are winnable for the GOP.
Way OT Stevo but thought this was right up your alley:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lennon-remembers-part-two-19710204
Yoko: The first approach was, well . . . he knew I went to Sarah Lawrence. He was saying “Kafkaesque” and all of that, and talking in a very “in” way; “we’re middle class, aren’t we?”
But the point is that the Eastman family doesn’t know John’s a drop-out – I was sick and tired of that middle class thing and I married a “working class hero”: And if he is a true aristocrat, he is not going to invite Allen to the Harvard Club, but would make sure that he invites Allen to somewhere Allen would enjoy.
It’s the best and most revealing interview into the Beatles (lol)
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lennon-remembers-part-two-19710204
Yoko: The first approach was, well . . . he knew I went to Sarah Lawrence. He was saying "Kafkaesque" and all of that, and talking in a very "in" way; "we're middle class, aren't we?"
But the point is that the Eastman family doesn't know John's a drop-out – I was sick and tired of that middle class thing and I married a "working class hero": And if he is a true aristocrat, he is not going to invite Allen to the Harvard Club, but would make sure that he invites Allen to somewhere Allen would enjoy.
It's the best and most revealing interview into the Beatles (lol)Replies: @Pat Hannagan
John: Eastman at first refused to meet Allen. He said “I will not meet such a low rat.” What the fuck had Klein done? He’d never done a fuckin’ thing – he’d been cleared of all this income tax shit – and even if he hadn’t, what the fuck, how dare all these fuckin’ wolves and sharks call him down for being what he is. How dare they insult anybody like that? They’re fuckin’ bastards. And Eastman is a Wasp Jew, man, and that’s the worst kind of person on earth.
Interesting, though, how Lennon -- neither an American nor a Jew -- instinctively understood the genteel, highly assimilated Eastman's antipathy towards Allen Klein (the stereotypical Jewish music business shtarker, albeit one shrewd enough to get the better of Mick Jagger, outwitting and outlawyering the former LSE student so badly that Klein's record company, ABKCO, still owns the master recordings to the Stones' 1960's recordings to this day) as just another example of the German/Eastern European Jewish divide. The yekkes against the shtetl dwellers, if you will. Lennon's keen eye and ear for the subtleties of the English class system probably enabled him to see the "Our Crowd" vs. "Coming To America" fight as just more of the same.
The British penchant for sorting primary school students into university material or worker bees at an absurdly early age (by American standards) leads a lot of ferociously intelligent young men who are temperamentally unsuited for the grammar school/public school-t0-Oxbridge pipeline to pass their immediate post-adolescence time in art school. (Some, in the English equivalent of "he was going to become an astronaut!", are "thinking about going to art school." I think they're called chavs.) The very best of them become life-long autodidacts who are far better read than their "middle-class" peers who went on to university. Some of these young men go into pop music; Lennon and Pete Townshend are only the best known. Another is Mark E. Smith, lead singer, songwriter, charter member and chief theoretician of The Fall, one of England's greatest indie bands since 1977 and still going strong after four decades. Yet another is Paul Weller (The Jam, The Style Council, solo career), whose lyrics, particularly with the Jam, are unusually sharp on the class divide (see below).
Mark E. Smith of The Fall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXwZc4RS7M&t=1183s
The Jam--Strange Town: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omJZ3z5PYSY ("You can't be weird in a strange town/you'll be betrayed by your accent and manners")
The Jam--Eton Rifles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJRmrlkYdsQ ("All that rugby puts hairs on your chest/what chance have you got against a tie and a crest?")
Wait -- were we talking about Al Franken? Is this still "The Al Franken Decade"? I could have sworn this thread was The Al Franken Thread. And yet someone brought up John Lennon and Allen Klein. And that's why we keep coming back to Steve. That -- and our host's prolific output.
The Democrat Party of 2020 is not going nominate al-Yahud.
She’s also overtly a Hindu, wants to avoid foreign entanglements, is independent thinking, and is a a serving officer, a major, in the national guard. This is too confusing for the electorate, whether within the party or outside, as they like life stories simplified.
I remember a certain sort of half-smart guy in high school who liked Al Franken a lot in his capacity at SNL, and I never understood it. But now I think I do: he was similarly insecure about being smart in a world that--according to people who are smart, but not all that smart--undervalues intelligence. They smelled it on him, and it made them happy.
But who likes people like that?Replies: @PiltdownMan
I remember Franken and Davis, although gifted principal writers for SNL in its first years with Chevy Chase, Dan Ackroyd, John Belushi and Bill Murray were distinctly second tier as performers in the occasional SNL skit that they did themselves. But I do remember some people who liked the Franken and Davis show segments.
But, as Steve has pointed out, comedians are often bitter creeps. And, in many ways, Franken seems to fit that bill.
They have fat wallets. And in politics money talks (c.f. AIPAC). Case closed.
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Exactly!
I, for one, don’t like him. Never did.
From what I have read Tulsi seems to be an independent minded person. I do not know her views on economics or identity nonsense, but most of what I read about her appears positive. I am staunchly conservative but if she isn’t an anti-capitalist, Marxist identitarian I could almost see myself voting for her.
Or maybe I am just fantasizing about ripping off her clothes in the moonlight on the Hawaiian sand.
hermy clothes in the moonlight on the Hawaiian sand in a fit of desire for a spiritual union with me.TFIFY.
The huge problem we are facing is Trump’s actions are engendering a complete disregard for the political process in new, unprecedented ways. He is taking the presidential use of executive actions and the federal powers to the next level. The only thing that has stopped him from enacting his will directly are the leftist bench of many states.
While I agree with much of what Trump is doing, when the libs take power, which they will eventually, there will be no one on the court to stop their transgressions. They will push through their agenda and crush the right in America in whatever way they please.
Trump is taking small, short terms gains (with many losses) while empowering the next brand of totalitarian leftists. He is setting the stage for the next progressive president to have more dictatorial powers. It’s somewhat similar to the decline of the Roman Republic in its progression, albeit through vastly different mechanisms.
Trump will make mistakes that will be hard to accept. But all paying attention expected that outcome. If the totalitarian leftists do not learn, yet come to power, things will be most unpleasant. And if they win they get to make America into Venezuela.
But we still have a say in what will come. And we can defeat them.Replies: @Yak-15
If Corey Booker decides to run, he will be the Democrats nominee.
Booker v Warren will be a re-run of Obama v Hilary, with the same result.
I suspect that smarter, more strategic-thinking Democrats realize that, unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he's probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can't avoid now, and that they won't resolve in only 4 years. Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn't identify most of the time as a Democrat.
The thing I worry about is Trump realizing the same thing, and figuring that his best bets to both reelection as well as fulfilling any kind of agenda is more and more morphing into a standard-issue cuckservative, neocon Republican. He promised the wall again today at the NRA as well, and, hopefully, if nothing else the number of times he's promised it will turn into a "No new taxes"-type pledge for him (that could be fatal in 2020 for him to abandon). I would take the wall (and the successful crackdown on immigration it signifies), Gorsuch and maybe one or two other SCOTUS justices, some good movement on the 2nd Amendment, and no major commitments of American ground troops in combat anywhere, and call Trump a successful President, pretty much no matter what else happens.Replies: @JohnnyD, @hhsiii, @Anon, @neutral, @Romanian, @AnotherDad
A blowout is bound to take place. No one can jack up asset prices indefinitely, which is why the Dow grew. Public debt is out of control (not just 1 trillion dollars a year anymore) and the debt ceiling has already been breached, after Obama’s act in Nov 2015 which froze legal controls on the debt limit expired on March 15th with 1.4 trillion dollars in debt added. The limit was 19.8 trillion, but that has already been breached around the New Year, and Mnuchin has started pulling the same measures at Treasury that gave Obama a few months to work with in 2013, when you had the 16 day government shutdown. Meanwhile, historically low interest rates cannot last forever, but consumption accounts for 70% of your GDP and 40% of the buying power of average Americans is based on loans and transfers. An increase in base interest rates to historical levels would bring your governmental debt servicing to over half a trillion yearly, while also squeezing the individual consumer.
The only question is – will it happen now and be Obama’s mistake, just like the fake recovery Trump was trying to take credit for is argued in the media as Obama’s merit? Or later, and be Trump’s recession? I do not think the economy has 3 years in it before the correction kicks in.
At this point companies are reporting strong earnings and most of the economy appears to be doing well. There is an inherent divide though between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives are highly optimistic while libs are the opposite.
The looming black cloud is going to be how the market responds to Federal Reserve tightening with the most important impact being on the increasing cost of government debt. At some point there will be a breakdown in the treasury bond auctions. But until then I see strong reason to expect the bubble to continue.
I was about to correct you, pointing out that her mother is a Hindu but that the daughter is some variety of Christian – for so had I read somewhere. But WKPD is firmly in your camp. So who misled me? The Russians, I suppose. It’s always the Russians.
Al Franken stands 5′ 6″.
Is it just a coincidence that Franken is an exact average of those two?
Hillary Clinton used the “Aunt Jemima Strategy” to stop Bernie Sanders in the Southern primary states. Sanders stomped all over Hillary Clinton in the mostly White state of New Hampshire. Sanders also won the Michigan primary 52 percent to 48 percent.
Any Democrat candidate will have to be able to use the “Aunt Jemima Strategy” for the 2020 Democrat presidential primary election. As Dr. John says in his song “Such A Night”: If I don’t do it, somebody else will.
Whoever can win the Black female vote in the Southern primary states will be the Democrat candidate against President Trump in 2020. I don’t think annoying baby boomer Jew Al Franken has any appeal for southern Black lady voters.
Al Franken might be able to raise lots of money from wealthy Jews to finance his campaign, but that won’t be enough to win over Black lady voters in the Southern primary states.
Al Franken and the Democrats have poured REFUGEE OVERLOAD into Minnesota. The Somalian refugees imported into Minnesota might have been the votes that have elected Al Franken to the US Senate. The corrupt Republican Party remains mostly silent about the REFUGEE OVERLOAD destroying many parts of the United States.
The mostly West African Blacks in the Southern primary states who have been here since before there was a United States don’t give a fig about no East African Somalians. These Southern Blacks might find the Somalians to be interlopers of some sort. Especially as it pertains to the Democrat presidential primary for 2020.
Shhhh. The black pill eeyores can’t handle the truth.
Kidding. When is the last time America elected a president who wears glasses ALL OR MOST of the time?
I predict loads of synthetic antisemitic stagecraft to boost the Franken campaign.Replies: @eD, @MBlanc46, @bored identity
“Kidding. When is the last time America elected a president who wears glasses ALL OR MOST of the time?”
Interesting question. The answer is Truman, in 1948, though Johnson was often photographed wearing glasses.
It is notable post TV how cosmeticized American politics became. Its also more cosmetized than in other countries, where you still get bald men with successful political careers sometimes. Its remarkable that Americans seemed to be OK with Trump’s ridiculous hairstyle but apparently have no tolerance for outright bald pols.
Contacts and now lasik surgery also makes wearing glasses less likely if your job requires you to appear on TV alot.
I think you'd have a hard time finding an image of any of Coolidge's predecessors in spectacles other than Wilson and T. Roosevelt.
Contacts or Lasik surgery at present can't fix presbyopia, a.k.a. near-sightedness. They can improve myopia, a.k.a. distance vision limitations. OK, are bifocal contact lenses are currently available, but bifocal contacts may have some drawbacks.
Present day TV older TV ppl. rely on large print teleprompters, and laptops or tablets set for larger print displays. To look young or youthful on TV, one needs to be able to read print easily.
Eisenhower and Johnson had to wear glasses because large print teleprompters weren't on the market in those times? Or perhaps they simply didn't care so much about being photogenic.
Ronald Reagan was myopic, both when he was Prez and when he was younger. He often wore glasses for distance vision when he was off camera.
Check out Youtube for the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon debates. Both men were under 45 at that time ... much younger than Presidents since then. Yes, the sainted JFK was prettier than Nixon, but Lucifer, I mean Nixon, in 1960 appeared to be about as youthful and dark-haired as, say, Paulie Ryno today.
The lesson 2020 has from 2016 is the power of charisma. A charismatic boaster with real trust issues edged out a anti charismatic plodder with all the political advantages. The easiest place to find star power is entertainment, but frankens’s oeuvre was the uncharismatic character. I don’t see much star power on the dem side among the politicians, I think it is Oprah or bust for the dems.
If Biden wants it, it is his for sure. If no Biden the contenders are Newsom and Booker, and Newsom will crush Booker as all the non blacks will join forces to keep Booker out. Booker will be the VP.
It's gonna be a tough ticket to beat.Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jack Hanson, @Clyde, @Art Deco, @gda
Lmbooooooooo sure okay.
Gosh damn Steve I’m not sure which is worst that you let through: these black pill trolls or the black male fetishists like tiny duck.
This is probably the funniest thing Franken has ever done (let’s be charitable and assume he’s actively involved in the joke).
I certainly hope he gets their nom. If the Democrats are going to run a celebrity, they might as well run an unfunny hack comedian who barely won his Sentate seat (and probably not legitimately, at that). And, am I mistaken that he’s a loony leftist even within his party?
For Whiskey: Franken is Jewish Jewish Jewish Jewish Jewish!
Kinsley was on Crossfire in approx the same era as Franken on SNL.
Franken will have to get past Mark Cuban, Oprah, and --wait for it-- ... Joe Biden.Replies: @Art Deco, @Father O'Hara, @Olorin
Kinsley was on Crossfire in approx the same era as Franken on SNL.
I think one started in 1975 and the other around 1989. Kinsley was on Crossfire for about five years. Not sure how long SNL employed Franken, but he was in his prime a decade before Kinsley was on the air..
iSteve reader detected?
If Biden wants it, it is his for sure. If no Biden the contenders are Newsom and Booker, and Newsom will crush Booker as all the non blacks will join forces to keep Booker out. Booker will be the VP.
It's gonna be a tough ticket to beat.Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jack Hanson, @Clyde, @Art Deco, @gda
No Al Franken plus he has a past that has not been properly mined by the opposition. Biden, way to old and tired. Your Gavin Newsom-Cory Booker(VP) ticket has lots of good possibilities. Newsom is very clean and is a handsome devil, great for visuals and television. The Democrat Party+ Media can mold him into a serious contender same as was done with Obama. Booker of course bringing in the black vote and by the time 2020 roils around who knows. Booker may come out of the closet and rope in the gay vote and the big gay millions of dollars. Booker is a vegetarian and can bring in the veggie/new age young voters.
I can’t find a picture on the internet, but Franken and his writing partner Tom Davis appeared dressed as Nazis in the first season of SNL.
I’m sure it’s somewhere…
Shhh. We can tell them after he’s nominated.
Is Warren capable of toning it down? Because she always sounds like an angry shrew. This works in print (because her pro-worker anti-banker lyrics are good), but not in video. I’m not sure she’s capable, she seems like a true believer in that “I’m a nasty woman” stuff.
Would an hispanic woman really mobilize hispanic voters?
Michelle Obama would stand a very good chance against Trump. It would mirror the Hillary run, and thereby stir up the base, “don’t let it happen again!” Also she is black and her last name is Obama… and she is far less obnoxious than Hillary. I’m sure she gets emails daily from Democrat king-makers saying as much. Maybe they’ll convince her. Honestly she wouldn’t be that bad, certainly not as bad as Hillary.
Interesting question. The answer is Truman, in 1948, though Johnson was often photographed wearing glasses.
It is notable post TV how cosmeticized American politics became. Its also more cosmetized than in other countries, where you still get bald men with successful political careers sometimes. Its remarkable that Americans seemed to be OK with Trump's ridiculous hairstyle but apparently have no tolerance for outright bald pols.
Contacts and now lasik surgery also makes wearing glasses less likely if your job requires you to appear on TV alot.Replies: @Art Deco, @Sam Haysom, @David Davenport
Eisenhower used glasses for some of his public speeches. In one of the few surviving films of Calvin Coolidge speaking, he’s wearing glasses. Roosevelt and Reagan were photographed in glasses, but I think avoided them in public speaking.
I think you’d have a hard time finding an image of any of Coolidge’s predecessors in spectacles other than Wilson and T. Roosevelt.
If Biden wants it, it is his for sure. If no Biden the contenders are Newsom and Booker, and Newsom will crush Booker as all the non blacks will join forces to keep Booker out. Booker will be the VP.
It's gonna be a tough ticket to beat.Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jack Hanson, @Clyde, @Art Deco, @gda
Biden will be 78 years old in 2020. I think his delegate haul in 2008 was somewhere around zero and he was forced to withdraw from the 1988 contest when the Dukakis campaign released a video showing he’d appropriated the biography of Neil Kinnock, a weirdly and comically dishonest thing to do. And then there’s the occasional bouts of public behavior which (per Keith Ablow) would trigger a dementia work-up if you saw them in a clinical setting. It isn’t happening. As for Newsom and Booker, those are faux-de-mieux candidates (and it’s a reasonable inference Booker has skeletons in his closet). Other than Bill Bradley and Wesley Clark, the Democrats haven’t fielded a quality candidate who was at all competitive in nearly 25 years. No one who’s qualified for the job wants it.
Let us hope so.
Recent polling in Massachusetts suggests that Granny Fauxcohantas will struggle just to retain her Senate seat. A competitive candidate stands pretty good odds of beating her. Fatigue with this cheating, lying, self-righteous non-entity kicks in very quickly.
Haley is a woman, "of color" (not transparent), was a governor, and now has international experience as UN ambassador. It's a nice resume, and she's aligned with the Democrats on all the big issues (diversity, immigration, trade, etc.). And as an Indian American, she can tap into a donor base of the country's highest-earning ethnic group.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Art Deco
There is no discrete corps in either party who can ‘grease the skids’ for anyone, so that’s not happening. In any case, it’s atypical for a politician to be a compleat opportunists and even those who are have their brand to think about. There aren’t many party switchers at any level and the few there have been are often manifestly ill-at-ease where they start out, which Haley is not.
Somebody’s doing a pretty good job of fouling the nest in that once happy state: http://www.wnd.com/2017/04/measles-outbreak-among-somali-refugees-stretches-minneapolis-health-system/ I’ll pass over the steady rise in homicides, rapes and other violent crimes over the past twenty years or so. Interested readers can reeadily find the statistics and gruesome example online.
She’d have to get past certain headwinds. Major party nominees have been (with some exceptions) state governors, U.S. Senators, or flag-rank military.
Too hard to predict who will be running for the dem nomination in 3 years…I suspect Cuomo will run and Senator Booker…
California is steadily advancing legislation through committees for a single payer health care system in the state. Its biggest backers are the Hispanic Congressional Caucus. Part of the motivation is that they want to expand the publicly subsidized health care system to cover illegals. Part of it is that they are tired of second class but free health care through Medi-Cal. But the biggest bonus is that they will get free health care by taxing white Americans an extra 10% on their state income tax.
It will probably fail when it comes up for a vote in a year or two but it will pretty much set the template for how our most diverse state will be run from now on and as California goes, so goes the country. You can easily see how the Bernie Bros will try to co-opt the dumpy underachieving third worlders by giving them their version of 40 acres and a mule; only the mules are high functioning married whites and Asians.
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
“Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.”
Sorry, no. Obama could not have got in without massive white support, and there will be no repeat of this, therefore no more black male Presidents in the near or medium future.
Oprah is a wild card, admittedly.
But, unless Trump is unable to get his tax plan done, they all will be finishing behind him in 2020. And that includes Oprah.
Boschwitz was a
lumberplywood king with whom suburbanites could easily identify. Hell, in many cases he built their houses. Also, he was one of the GOP’s best rainmakers. He used to quip that nobody likes the job of fundraising– except him.Wellstone was an academic, the cool-nerd prof that students fall for. The proto-Bernie: as with Sanders (and Dylan) it was the goyim who gushed over him.
Coleman was a DFL turncoat, nominally good on guns and abortions (probably because he didn’t care much about either), and he won reelection in St Paul as a Republican. (Or “Independent-Republican”. The party’s name reverted about that time.) Note that he was competitive with Jesse Ventura till the end; it was HHH III who finished a distant IIIrd.
The Jewishness of these guys never came up, except in the first Boschwitz-Wellstone campaign. Everyone got all hot-and-bothered because a Jewish Boschwitz backer wrote a letter to other Jews saying that Wellstone was “less of a Jew” than Boschwitz, because his kids were being raised Christian. (As if modern Presbyterians were Christian in any way.)
Sen. Kamalla Harris (D), former girlfriend of Willie Brown, fits the bill pretty well.
http://tinyurl.com/lnoupr9
She’d actually bring more “experience” to the table than Obama had.
Paid for, indirectly, by George Soros.
PJ O’Rourke said that government was dangerous because it was boring. Soros quietly invested in secretary-of-state races all across the country, and one of his successes was Mark Ritchie in Minnesota. Both statewide recounts under Ritchie went Soros’s way. Hmmm…
If Biden wants it, it is his for sure. If no Biden the contenders are Newsom and Booker, and Newsom will crush Booker as all the non blacks will join forces to keep Booker out. Booker will be the VP.
It's gonna be a tough ticket to beat.Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Jack Hanson, @Clyde, @Art Deco, @gda
Biden will be 78 in 2020. 78! There is absolutely no chance he gets nominated. It shows how doomed the Democratic party is that they would even contemplate this.
Its more likely that Hilary would run again, since she would be comparatively young (heh) and seems to be positioning herself for another run (stumble?).
Hitler was 5′ 8″. Stalin was 5′ 4″.
Is it just a coincidence that Franken is an exact average of those two?
I read somewhere that during one of those writers strikes in the 80s Al Franken did a bunch of blow and stayed up all night writing a spec script for Lorne Michaels to let Franken write SNL by himself. Lorne took one look at the script and cancelled the season.
Gabbard 2020, New hope for the Alt Right. Or maybe the only hope for the Alt Right.
The only question is - will it happen now and be Obama's mistake, just like the fake recovery Trump was trying to take credit for is argued in the media as Obama's merit? Or later, and be Trump's recession? I do not think the economy has 3 years in it before the correction kicks in.Replies: @Yak-15
Inherently unstable systems, especially economic systems, can remain metastable for long periods of time. I agree with your sentiments, but Paul Tudor Jones in the PBS documentary “Trader” spoke of the same in 1987…
At this point companies are reporting strong earnings and most of the economy appears to be doing well. There is an inherent divide though between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives are highly optimistic while libs are the opposite.
The looming black cloud is going to be how the market responds to Federal Reserve tightening with the most important impact being on the increasing cost of government debt. At some point there will be a breakdown in the treasury bond auctions. But until then I see strong reason to expect the bubble to continue.
Interesting question. The answer is Truman, in 1948, though Johnson was often photographed wearing glasses.
It is notable post TV how cosmeticized American politics became. Its also more cosmetized than in other countries, where you still get bald men with successful political careers sometimes. Its remarkable that Americans seemed to be OK with Trump's ridiculous hairstyle but apparently have no tolerance for outright bald pols.
Contacts and now lasik surgery also makes wearing glasses less likely if your job requires you to appear on TV alot.Replies: @Art Deco, @Sam Haysom, @David Davenport
I get that the alt right loves this kind of bitter whining but with the exception of Putin you will struggle to find a bald G8 leader in the past 20 years(France being the one exception and the trend in France has definitely been trending away from balding). And if Putin doesn’t represent a weird form of comestized Jersey shore politics then I don’t know what comestized politics would be in your mind. You
The Democratic Party will employ the Carter/Clinton gambit. They will run a white governor from a heartland state, in order to appeal to the people they have systematically insulted, alienated, and disenfranchised over the last twenty years. If he (or she) wins, and he might, he will then continue and intensify the Democratic program of systematically insulting, alienating, and disenfranchising those same people.
The only real potential candidate of the three is Terry McAuliffe of Virginia, who is a big Clinton friend. If they're going to pick any of the three, it's going to be McAuliffe, but he's already been investigated by the FBI for (as usual) illegal campaign donations. The Donks are in a lot of trouble as far as candidates go.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
Whiskey, Good post and amazingly the democrats, emboldened by a non politician winning the election, think these people that you list are viable candidates. They miss the point that it is their platform that turned voters away, not their front man or front woman (Well Hillary did suck as a candidate). They still don’t get it, hence “The Russians are coming. The Russians are coming” mantra.
Franken and Davis could be pretty funny. Franken himself could be pretty funny.
But, as Steve has pointed out, comedians are often bitter creeps. And, in many ways, Franken seems to fit that bill.
Anon, the comedians of the left are not funny unless they are tearing into the right, at least in their minds. So what passes for humor is Bill Maher, John Oliver, Stephen Colbert and Al Franken. On the distaff side you get Amy Schumer, Margaret Chu and Chelsea Handler. Mark Twain, Will Rodgers and George Carlin are spinning in their graves.
Here's one of his Verve LP's, Live at the Hungry i, recorded in either late 1959 or early 1960, at the tail end of the Eisenhower administration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c90tyda06jE
Compared to Sahl, guys like Bill Maher, John Oliver and Al Franken are grease spots on the road. (Maher, in particular, is awful: he's made a career out of confusing "libertarian" with "libertine.")Replies: @PapayaSF, @Buffalo Joe, @Hibernian
I think you are right broadly, but I found a few G8 baldies in the last 20 yrs. from:
Italy- Letta, Amato, & Berlusconi (who was plugged). Of course, in Italy, apparently every citizen, regardless of hairstyle, is allowed at least one go at prime ministering.
Germany- Helmut Kohl
You referred to France, of course- Chirac, Mitterrand, Hollande
Japan’s last bald PM was in the early 90s, while Canada’s last baldie was, I believe, Trudeau in the 80s (was Chretien bald while in office?). The last bald US president was Eisenhower. So there very well could be a TV-ownership rate correlation going on.
I’d vote for Gabbard, and I say that as the WASPiest commentator here.
And a non-Citizen.
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
What’s TMZ?
(Oh, and he's a white Jew, but somewhat young, so only one wing for the relevant angel; sorry.)
Add also some frictions between Blacks and Hispanics, arguing for who’ll get the bigger part of the pie/cake from the Democrats on the table, and things are less rosy for the Democrats.
VoxDay posted a short blog last February about the future of the Democratic Party. http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2017/02/the-future-of-democratic-party.html
lumberplywood king with whom suburbanites could easily identify. Hell, in many cases he built their houses. Also, he was one of the GOP's best rainmakers. He used to quip that nobody likes the job of fundraising-- except him.Wellstone was an academic, the cool-nerd prof that students fall for. The proto-Bernie: as with Sanders (and Dylan) it was the goyim who gushed over him.
Coleman was a DFL turncoat, nominally good on guns and abortions (probably because he didn't care much about either), and he won reelection in St Paul as a Republican. (Or "Independent-Republican". The party's name reverted about that time.) Note that he was competitive with Jesse Ventura till the end; it was HHH III who finished a distant IIIrd.
The Jewishness of these guys never came up, except in the first Boschwitz-Wellstone campaign. Everyone got all hot-and-bothered because a Jewish Boschwitz backer wrote a letter to other Jews saying that Wellstone was "less of a Jew" than Boschwitz, because his kids were being raised Christian. (As if modern Presbyterians were Christian in any way.)Replies: @guest
Speaking of Coleman, he may well have beaten Franken in the ’08 race. Franken only won by 300 or so votes, which could easily be within the voter fraud margin. And of course before the first recount Norm was in the lead, then there was that 500 vote flip. Al didn’t take office until like 6 months into his term.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/03/31/gov-jerry-brown-democrats-stick-it-to-working-poor-with-huge-tax-increase/Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
Someone else thought of that a long, long time ago:
The perfect candidate to appeal to a majority of Americans.
So, we can be sure the Dems will not nominate her.
Dave Miller in SacramentoReplies: @JL, @Marat, @Anonymous
Dem establishment sent poison arrows toward her the moment she questioned the Empire’s warring ways. How would Hillary react to Tulsi’s advancement? It’s Chelsea’s Time to Shine and this time, she’s not being polite about it.
As a sop to the Far Left, put Jill Stein on the ticket.
Franken/Stein 2020!
Anthony Wiener and Eric Holder.
Wiener/Holder 2016!
Kidding. When is the last time America elected a president who wears glasses ALL OR MOST of the time?
I predict loads of synthetic antisemitic stagecraft to boost the Franken campaign.Replies: @eD, @MBlanc46, @bored identity
Teddy Roosevelt?
I’m pretty sure that she’s that unhinged. I doubt that the Dem bosses are that unhinged. Unfortunately.
If the Donk party elders are talking about running the court jester for president, it means they’re having a terrible time finding a left-wing politician who is both nationally known but who isn’t tainted by financial scandals. The Donks used to have a rule of not running big city pols for the presidency because pols who worked their way up via dirty political machines were too tainted by financial scandals to win national elections. They knew they needed a candidate who would make a straight-laced churchgoing old lady in Iowa pull the lever for them. That meant the Donk elders tried to pick candidates who were reasonably clean.
But they broke that rule with Hillary. She was on the take on a level that matched a Chicago aldercritter at their sleazebag worst, and the whole country knew it. A lot of lefties are still angsting over her loss and deep down, they know it was her influence peddling that sunk her. They’re trying to find a candidate who’s clean. The problem is, their pool has shrunk.
The Donk strongholds have shrivelled to their coastal strongholds, and the higher political offices in those places are packed with corrupt Donk pols who are up to their ears in brides, graft, and influence peddling. This is especially problematic because the pols in those places are usually minorities who accept corruption as normal. They’d all go to prison if their activities were properly investigated. Hence, they’re trying to find somebody from the Midwest.
Two words: Harry TrumanReplies: @Art Deco, @Alden
Minnesota almost went for Donald Trump.
There is prospects that Minnesota might turn in to a Red State.
Minnesota was spared for a long time not having brutal, crime ridden, segregated Black ghettos. Now Minnesota does have Black ghettos, plus the joys of D-I-V-E-R-S-T-Y from mass Somalian Muslim refugees brought in by idiot Lutheran Immigrant aid societies.
The Somalians don’t tend to stay too long in Minnesota prefer to migrate to places like Middle TN.
But after a few more BlackLiesMatter riots at Islamists and BLM closing the Mall of America – m’thinks Al Franken’s Harvard Lampoon, New Yawk Lib Left comedy act will start to wear thin.
Minnesota Garrison Keeler Liberals are getting very, very old.
Al Franken was once funny on SNL.
At one time in the Middle Ages – these types played the roll of court jesters.
But, when did it become reality that court jesters became our political leaders?
Mort Sahl is still alive, and he is both smarter and funnier than any of the living “comedians” you mentioned. Probably the first recognizably modern comedian to use politics as a point of departure for his work — Will Rogers is pre-modern — he is equally scathing to the Left and Right. I’m paraphrasing here, but he once said something like, “If you’re in power, no matter your politics, I have to attack you. That’s my job.” Lenny Bruce, though more scatological (I’ve heard almost all of Sahl’s albums, and don’t remember a single curse word), took the same stance: in today’s language, he believed it his sacred duty to “punch up.”
Here’s one of his Verve LP’s, Live at the Hungry i, recorded in either late 1959 or early 1960, at the tail end of the Eisenhower administration.
Compared to Sahl, guys like Bill Maher, John Oliver and Al Franken are grease spots on the road. (Maher, in particular, is awful: he’s made a career out of confusing “libertarian” with “libertine.”)
People who don’t know him like him, because he can be funny and has a high Q score. But like many funny people, he has a dark, angry side, and is really not very personable. He would do horribly as a national candidate.
Certain types of people are really good and rather bad at certain things.
A Kenyan runner has won the Chicago marathon – like 20 years in a row. These African American Kenyans are really good at long distance running.
Italians are a good people but….
The Gambino Crime family really was an Italian American organized crime Mafia family – yep.
Likewise here in Chicago the Black Gangster Disciples really are a Black street gang – it’s not just a Racist smear.
Likewise Jews tend to be good and rather bad at many things.
Jews like AL Franken were/are good at comedy.
Jews like Al Franken just happen to really REALLY suck at politics.
In particular Jews suck on immigration, really, really SUCK – as bad as it gets.
Virtually every single Jewish Congressman and US Senator had/has an F immigration grade from Numbers USA. Even supposedly Conservative Jewish Congressmen like GOP House Majority leader Eric Cantor sucked F immigration grade, that’s why we got rid of him.
Even if you make the reasonable position that you want to restrict mass Islamic immigration, keep out more 9/11/01 Islamic terrorists – you will get smeared as a terrible racist NAZI by the Jewish American media, political, academic elite.
That’s life.
Al Franken should go back to being a funny comedian – the future of my beautiful daughter can not be put in the hands of such creatures.
But I laughed with George Carlin.Replies: @Daniel H
The 1% of the population that are Jews controlling the other 99% has been the Jewish modus operandi for five thousand years…. from Joseph and Esther and Mordecai and Judith right up to Disraeli to Schumer to Ruth Bader Ginsburg to Elana Kagan.
And while we’re talking about the 1% vs. the 99%, we ought to throw Goldman Sachs, Yellen, Bernanke, Greenspan, Mnuchin, Rubin et. al. into the equation as well.
Franken/Stein 2020!Replies: @antipater_1
Remember the joke about the 2016 Democrat campaign?
Anthony Wiener and Eric Holder.
Wiener/Holder 2016!
With Dems there’s always a temptation to immanentize the eschaton by nominating an actual professor or Jew for president. Waiting 15-20 years can feel excruciatingly long for communist innovations to trickle from the academy through the press to the culture, judiciary and government.
Hopefully Dems are stupid enough to try it. But what they should do is ask David Axelrod to choose the nominee. He knows what blacks and white ladies like.
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
Kanye West, too. Scott Adams has identified his persuasive genius.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/128930629301/odds-of-a-kanye-west-presidency-90
A lot more incoherent jackassery from Trump yesterday in his interviews. ‘I’m a globalist and a nationalist.”
It never ends.
They (Kushner/Cohn) keep sending him out for arm-waving and red meat rhetoric to keep the base. So cynical.
Trump gives a “…freedom is a gift to us from God” speech to the NRA and the reaction 100 days in is an eye roll. It’s obvious that line was written by the chrome dome speechwriter guy who’s been on ice for two months. Trump doesn’t mean it. Obviously. If he did then most of the dumb mistakes he’s made so far would’ve been avoided.
INCOHERENT JACKASSERY is here and it’s not going away. Read this stupidity from Trump’s open borders cheap labor appointment/s at Dept of Agriculture:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/29/donald-trumps-ag-secretary-pushes-illegal-immigrants-not-robots/
OT: Middlebury College update. Looks like there will actually be punishment.
https://middleburycampus.com/35221/news/college-begins-discipline-of-murray-protestors/
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/28/middlebury-college-lowers-boom-campus-protesters-who-disrupted-charles-murray-talk/ZDuJOxqvw1m2MsmQr4S0hO/story.html
Here's one reason why the admins might be concerned. From an article online: "Middlebury’s endowment generated a negative investment return in the fiscal year that ended June 30 [2016] for only the third time in the past 12 years and the first time since 2009. This year’s annual return was -4.5 percent." This was reported October 2016.
You know though the Democrats are having the same problem the Soviet leadership, that being the existing leadership hung on so long, their replacements either left, died or became geriatric cases themselves before assuming power.
The Clinton’s control of the DNC was even worse is that they went out of their way to kneecap potential talent who could run for president and didn’t recruit fresh blood into the party. So all the party has are senile white pols like Pelosi, Schumer and Sanders that already have one foot in the grave.
Hillary may run again in 2020. Megalomaniacs like her just don’t stop.
That said, given the current Democratic infatuation with ethnics and their hatred of lower class whites. They will no doubt find and promote either male black or hispanic to run for president.
Frankin has no appeal beyond his state, he’s a odd guy who gives off a bad vibe like most comedians.
Putin is neither “cosmetized” nor “Jersey shore”. Recent national leaders with serious hair loss: Mitterrand, Chirac, Helmut Kohl, Berlusconi, Netanyahu. All in the TV age.
The kind of logic that governs global politics
Perhaps he can use all those high tech warriors who left their cushy jobs because of dicrimination:
https://archive.fo/XE70o
Off-topic:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886916310364
Nothing unexpected here
While the Democratic party seems to have ended its dalliance with female leaders, Fox News is rumored to be following in Yahoo’s footsteps:
https://www.axios.com/fox-news-updates-after-oreilly-others-leave-2385202345.html
Perhaps they are considering Marissa Meyer.
Felix
Well, the state is mostly inhabited by Scandinavian cucks, so what do you expect?
The Democrats used to nominate a lot of north-central non-big city politicians: Stevenson, Humphrey, McGovern, Mondale.
A Kenyan runner has won the Chicago marathon - like 20 years in a row. These African American Kenyans are really good at long distance running.
Italians are a good people but....
The Gambino Crime family really was an Italian American organized crime Mafia family - yep.
Likewise here in Chicago the Black Gangster Disciples really are a Black street gang - it's not just a Racist smear.
Likewise Jews tend to be good and rather bad at many things.
Jews like AL Franken were/are good at comedy.
Jews like Al Franken just happen to really REALLY suck at politics.
In particular Jews suck on immigration, really, really SUCK - as bad as it gets.
Virtually every single Jewish Congressman and US Senator had/has an F immigration grade from Numbers USA. Even supposedly Conservative Jewish Congressmen like GOP House Majority leader Eric Cantor sucked F immigration grade, that's why we got rid of him.
Even if you make the reasonable position that you want to restrict mass Islamic immigration, keep out more 9/11/01 Islamic terrorists - you will get smeared as a terrible racist NAZI by the Jewish American media, political, academic elite.
That's life.
Al Franken should go back to being a funny comedian - the future of my beautiful daughter can not be put in the hands of such creatures.Replies: @Thea, @Buffalo Joe
Maybe it is my own personal defect but I don’t find many comedians funny. The more people say someone is funny, the less funny I find them. This goes double for comediennes.
But I laughed with George Carlin.
I found George Carlin unfunny.
I like my comedy proleish and buffoonish. Moe, Larry and Curley are all I need.
So six leaders one of which isn’t G8. Does that seem like an impressive list. And as I said the current leaders all those nations with the exception of Israel have full heads of hair. Also still stifling the laughter about Kohl and Mitterrad as recent leaders.
Wesley Clark, who would have started World War III if not for James Blunt? He’d be perfect for today’s Russophobic, hawkish Dems.
The Dangers of Affirmative Action :
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/‘go-and-kill-yourself’-a-louisiana-teacher-told-an-11-year-old-student-authorities-say/ar-BBAwUtX?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
Whiskey,
I seriously doubt we’ll be seeing a hip hop president any time soon – or ever, for that matter. It’s more likely that the Democrats have satisfied their black president fix with a double dose of Obama. They won’t need candidates with gimmicks here in the near future because white Americans will be so demographically swamped that it won’t matter how many Democrat voters stay home on election day. Don’t forget that Clinton won the popular vote by one hell of a margin.
A Newsom-Baldwin Democratic ticket for 2020?
Joanna Newsom "Make Hay" (Official Lyric Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGoqZ4zWSsgReplies: @bored identity
Andy Samberg….
And I’m repeatedly reminded of Man Lubin’ Other Man being somehow esthetically superior to their heterosexual counterparts.
Fake Anusment.
Kidding. When is the last time America elected a president who wears glasses ALL OR MOST of the time?
I predict loads of synthetic antisemitic stagecraft to boost the Franken campaign.Replies: @eD, @MBlanc46, @bored identity
” …loads of synthetic antisemitic stagecraft …”
Nicely put syntactic paradigm.
http://tinyurl.com/lnoupr9
She'd actually bring more "experience" to the table than Obama had.Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
What sort of experience would that be? Fellating powerful men?
You know who also had a fat wallet?
…
Exactly!
For anyone who believes this, please contact me for a great deal: I’m selling the Eiffel Tower.
Here's one of his Verve LP's, Live at the Hungry i, recorded in either late 1959 or early 1960, at the tail end of the Eisenhower administration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c90tyda06jE
Compared to Sahl, guys like Bill Maher, John Oliver and Al Franken are grease spots on the road. (Maher, in particular, is awful: he's made a career out of confusing "libertarian" with "libertine.")Replies: @PapayaSF, @Buffalo Joe, @Hibernian
Mort Sahl is not only still alive (and about to turn 90), but he does a live hour every week at a theater in Mill Valley. It’s streamed live (and recorded) on Periscope. https://www.pscp.tv/mortsahlsays/1OdJryloOZvGX
https://youtu.be/_DErurte4CE
Chelsea might be given a safe congressional seat before 2020 but can she make the leap into the big time? Daddy was a smooth-talking Son of a Whore who was lucky enough to make it to the White House - - - thanks to Ross Perot and his 19%, George HW Bush never knew what hit him! The daughter of Webster Hubbel (Chelsea) looks like a prohibitive longshot at this point in time. As Manhattan goes, so goes Beverly Hills!Replies: @Daniel H
>>>Hillary is more unhinged than a rotting barn door but the Democrats have learned their lesson
Where is there evidence that the Democrats ever learn, or that the Republicans learn, for that matter. Republicans tried to force Jeb upon us. There are good odds that Hillary will claw here way to the front, intimidating all the media folk, and secure the nomination. I know that such a scenario is nuts, but we are living in very nutty times. The evidence of such is around you daily.
Hillary was "strong" when she was "inevitable" because of Clintonian intimidation. That's gone, and on her own she's an incredibly unimpressive politician.
Let’s not lump Jesse Ventura in with those crooks and surveillance state advocates.
But I laughed with George Carlin.Replies: @Daniel H
>>But I laughed with George Carlin.
I found George Carlin unfunny.
I like my comedy proleish and buffoonish. Moe, Larry and Curley are all I need.
I suspect that smarter, more strategic-thinking Democrats realize that, unless the economy really goes in the crapper or Trump lands in some major scandal, he's probably already a shoo-in for reelection in 2020 no matter what happens. Hillary was the last chance the Democrats had to put off a major realignment that they can't avoid now, and that they won't resolve in only 4 years. Right now, their most prominent figure of Presidential timber is a 75-year old socialist who doesn't identify most of the time as a Democrat.
The thing I worry about is Trump realizing the same thing, and figuring that his best bets to both reelection as well as fulfilling any kind of agenda is more and more morphing into a standard-issue cuckservative, neocon Republican. He promised the wall again today at the NRA as well, and, hopefully, if nothing else the number of times he's promised it will turn into a "No new taxes"-type pledge for him (that could be fatal in 2020 for him to abandon). I would take the wall (and the successful crackdown on immigration it signifies), Gorsuch and maybe one or two other SCOTUS justices, some good movement on the 2nd Amendment, and no major commitments of American ground troops in combat anywhere, and call Trump a successful President, pretty much no matter what else happens.Replies: @JohnnyD, @hhsiii, @Anon, @neutral, @Romanian, @AnotherDad
While Warren is a few years younger than Trump she’d still be a year *older* than Trump was when he took office.
Folks are tossing around Franken (who’d be four months shy of 70), Warren (71) and Biden (78 for God’s sake!).
I realize this community skews old, but c’mon, these are *geezers*! The obvious way to run against Trump is with someone younger and more vigorous, who can provide a contrast with Trump’s–already existing–tendency to look confused and inarticulate.
The perfect candidate to appeal to a majority of Americans.
So, we can be sure the Dems will not nominate her.
Dave Miller in SacramentoReplies: @JL, @Marat, @Anonymous
Gabbard comes across as an airhead though. She’s a lot less impressive when she opens her mouth.
How the good people of Minnesota voted for a clown and buffoon for the US Senate will forever remain a mystery to me!
Maybe they were mesmerized by Lake Wobegon. Their children and grandchildren will bear the consequences.
Then again Minnesota is not not the same as of old.
If they're smart they're running a negro. But artculate negros are few and far between, which is why everybody treated Obama like he was a genius. Luckily for them, Trump's voters won't be making that mistake a second time so whoever they run can take it easy.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Stealth
kihowi, You almost nailed, but articulate blacks are really not few and far between, but like Obama, that is their only marketable attribute. Booker is a prime example, the Rock star mayor of Trenton, who accomplished nothing.
Booker's major accomplishment as mayor of Newark was to have the murder rate skyrocket.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Do Japanese people not go bald as frequently as Westerners when I was scrolling through their leaders it was amazing how many full heads of hair there were.
Oh, please, let the Demo(n)crats run Franken! Particularly on a ticket with Chelsea Clinton! “Please, Br’er Fox, don’t throw me in that brier patch!” Between the stupid stuff he did on SNL (he may have been a great writer behind-the-scenes, but his stints on-screen were generally pathetically unfunny; a lot of people forget how uneven SNL was even in its classic first five years), the idiotic things he wrote in his books, the hinky stuff about his first “election” to the Senate, and his own charming, winning personality (particularly when combined with Chelsea’s radiant beauty, profound intelligence and mad sex appeal) we’d see the Demo(n)crats coming in behind not just the Republicans, but the Libertarians, Greens, Prohibition Party, Reform Party, Constitution Party, the Monster Raving Loony Party, and vying for last place of all with the CPUSA, with which they could finally merge and realize their lifelong dreams!
Here's one of his Verve LP's, Live at the Hungry i, recorded in either late 1959 or early 1960, at the tail end of the Eisenhower administration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c90tyda06jE
Compared to Sahl, guys like Bill Maher, John Oliver and Al Franken are grease spots on the road. (Maher, in particular, is awful: he's made a career out of confusing "libertarian" with "libertine.")Replies: @PapayaSF, @Buffalo Joe, @Hibernian
Gary, Thank you nice reply.
Marat, I recently read two magazine articles that hammered Chelsea as a spoiled brat air head. I think one was in Vanity fair, not exactly a right leaning magazine.
Here's a sample of why Frank is one of my favorite liberal journalists (it's a very short list):When I read the phrase "self-regard of an unusual intensity," I couldn't help but recall how Chelsea's mother behaved in her maiden run for elective office. She waltzed into New York -- a state where she had never lived, worked or had any connection other than as a giant ATM for her and her husband -- declared herself a candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Pat Moynihan, and then had the chutzpah, even by New York standards, to insist (through factota like Harold Ickes) that she would not subject herself to the indignity of a primary, but rather that she expected the powers that be to "clear the field" so she could proceed unopposed.
A New York State Democratic Party worthy of the name would have told Her Royal Highness to perform an anatomically impossible act on her way back to Little Rock, or compete with other Democratic worthies for the nomination (Nita Lowey, Gary Ackerman, Eliot Engel, anyone?) like any other would-be Senator. Instead, then-State Democratic chairman Judith Hope told all other prospective candidates that there would be no primary, and that Mrs. Clinton was "the Party's choice," the best chance to keep the seat in Democratic hands (Rudy Giuliani was then expected to run, before prostate cancer and his marital woes overtook him).
"[S]elf-regard of an unusual intensity"? Chelsea may not be her father's daughter, but she is surely her mother's. Note to junior U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (Dem.-N.Y.): get yourself a 24/7 bodyguard and a food taster. I hear Fidel's guy is looking for a new gig, preferably in America.Replies: @Marty T
Franken is an obnoxious clown. He was one of my least favorite people on SNL when he was on. Elizabeth Warren may run in 2020 but we’ll have to see how her Senate re-election campaign goes. Plus as another commenter mentioned, she just comes across on cameraas sn unpleasant angry shrew. A sort of Hillary Lite.
Kamala Harris would check off a lot of boxes for the Donks. She’s a woman, biracial but (to my knowledge) identifies as black, loves illegals but hates the Second Amendment. That being said , she just started her first Senate term and I don’t believe she’s dropped any hints she’s planning to run.
I won’t say much about Cory Booker, other than we’ve all seen the video Steve gets a kick out of. I’ll just say oppo research would probably dig up a gold mine of general weirdness if not outright graft on him.
I suspect alot of Dem bagmen and insiders would like to pull the Carter/Clinton gambit: nominate a nice, inoffensive heartland white. The rank and file however will probably want a person of color. But what color? Black? Latin? Asian? An I don’t identify as white Jew? Things could get interesting for the Dems.
A Kenyan runner has won the Chicago marathon - like 20 years in a row. These African American Kenyans are really good at long distance running.
Italians are a good people but....
The Gambino Crime family really was an Italian American organized crime Mafia family - yep.
Likewise here in Chicago the Black Gangster Disciples really are a Black street gang - it's not just a Racist smear.
Likewise Jews tend to be good and rather bad at many things.
Jews like AL Franken were/are good at comedy.
Jews like Al Franken just happen to really REALLY suck at politics.
In particular Jews suck on immigration, really, really SUCK - as bad as it gets.
Virtually every single Jewish Congressman and US Senator had/has an F immigration grade from Numbers USA. Even supposedly Conservative Jewish Congressmen like GOP House Majority leader Eric Cantor sucked F immigration grade, that's why we got rid of him.
Even if you make the reasonable position that you want to restrict mass Islamic immigration, keep out more 9/11/01 Islamic terrorists - you will get smeared as a terrible racist NAZI by the Jewish American media, political, academic elite.
That's life.
Al Franken should go back to being a funny comedian - the future of my beautiful daughter can not be put in the hands of such creatures.Replies: @Thea, @Buffalo Joe
Jack, “Italians are good people but…” You know Irish are good people too and Joseph Kennedy Sr. was just an importer of Irish Holy Water, like Don Corleone imported Olive Oil.
The right coaching should fix the air head problem, for example, W and even ¡Jeb!. If she goes national she will probably tone down the Aloha stuff. Not sure how she finesses the Hindu thing, although that might strengthen her anti Muslim appeal.
Neither Bush brother has notable intellectual deficits re what's necessary for the general run of professional-managerial employment. Neither does Chelsea Clinton. Neither does Barack Obama, whose problem has always been superficiality rather than a deficit of intelligence.Replies: @Mr. Anon
Buffalo Joe:
Booker’s major accomplishment as mayor of Newark was to have the murder rate skyrocket.
Where is there evidence that the Democrats ever learn, or that the Republicans learn, for that matter. Republicans tried to force Jeb upon us. There are good odds that Hillary will claw here way to the front, intimidating all the media folk, and secure the nomination. I know that such a scenario is nuts, but we are living in very nutty times. The evidence of such is around you daily.Replies: @AnotherDad
You articulate those odds and we can bet.
Hillary was “strong” when she was “inevitable” because of Clintonian intimidation. That’s gone, and on her own she’s an incredibly unimpressive politician.
Although I disagree with your analysis, I was willing to take it seriously in the spirit of vigorous give-and-take at which many of Steve’s commenters excel. (I note that while you argue that Gary Johnson helped Trump by “sucking a lot of votes away from Hillary,” you didn’t point to a single state that Trump won in which Johnson’s vote total — not all of which would have gone to HRC; many Johnson voters would have stayed home, voted for whomever the Libertarians nominated, or even voted for Trump –provided the decisive margin of victory.)
Then I got to the end, and this:
“If the Democrats could find a white, populist Southern democrat (admittedly difficult), he’d beat Trump by about 30 points; it’d be the biggest landslide since Bush back in 88.”
First of all, if anyone won a presidential election “by about 30 points,” it would be the biggest landslide since, roughly, ever. The usual benchmark for modern presidential landslides is LBJ over Goldwater in 1964. Don’t they teach this sort of thing in Poli Sci 101 today?
Second, the Democrats had a “white, populist Southern democrat” in the 2016 race. His name was Jim Webb, and he didn’t make it to New Hampshire. Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?
So no, I can’t take you or your analysis seriously. I see why you post anonymously.
Quit parsing hairs. Do you really think this is a valid point? "Hey everybody, ignore the completely correct statement that guy made because 1968 or...something." Please. The "30 points" statement was clearly not to be taken literally, so I'll take your ridiculous critique as the sort of thing the common internet autist would make.
"Second, the Democrats had a “white, populist Southern democrat” in the 2016 race. His name was Jim Webb, and he didn’t make it to New Hampshire. Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?"
Implicit in the statement that I made was that they actually nominate him. I guess reading comprehension isn't a skill everyone excels at.
"So no, I can’t take you or your analysis seriously. I see why you post anonymously."
Those who can't debate, deflect.
Translation: 'I couldn't rebut any of the important points, so I scanned the comment in the hopes of finding something that I could use to divert attention away from that fact. Oh, look...a squirrel.'
Bernie Sanders vs. Donald Trump Poll: Sanders +10 (ouch)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
74% of Americans support higher taxes on the rich
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-74-percent-support-higher-taxes-on-the-rich/
Poll: Majority Support Obama Free Tuition Plan
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/230064-poll-majority-support-obamas-free-tuition-plan
Two-thirds of Americans Support Free College Tuition
http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/college-game-plan/two-thirds-americans-support-free-college-tuition-n620856
Poll: A Record Number of Americans Say the Government Should Do More
http://www.kvoa.com/story/35220679/poll-a-record-number-of-americans-say-government-should-do-more
Should I go on? Or have I made a spelling mistake or failed to mention some obscure fact about a presidential election you once read about in your ancient Poly Sci class that you'd like to comment on?
Here, I'll reiterate the important point that I was trying to make: Trump is sinking like a stone by supporting elitist republican dogma AND if the Democrats were to nominate an acceptable populist alternative, he'd blow Trump out of the water. Period. End of story.
Says who? If anything, the 88 landslide is the better example because it much better represents modern demographics and voting dynamics. Poli Sci has come a long way since 64.
"I note that while you argue that Gary Johnson helped Trump by..."
Hillary won the popular vote by ~3 million despite being incredibly unpopular, and Trump won about the same percentage of the white vote as Romney, or lower. So, as was pointed out, Trump just barely skated by. You are welcome to argue that point.
"Second, the Democrats had a “white, populist Southern democrat” in the 2016 race."
Jim Webb is a moderate democrat. It is hardly fair to construe him as being a Southern version of Bernie Sanders, which he is not. He didn't make free college education and healthcare a central part of his campaign. What he did comment on that got attention was that he opposed Obama's Iran deal.
"I see why you post anonymously."
So, I take it that 'Gary in Gramercy' is your legal name. If not, I fail to see how you have any kind of point.
"Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?"
I believe the statement you are referring to was a hypothetical, so I fail to see how your criticism makes any kind of sense in that context. IF the democrats nominated a younger version of Sanders, they'd win in a landslide. In any case, I would say that Keith Ellison has a better chance at being president on January 21st 2021 than Trump does if Trump passes his tax cuts and removes the pre-existing condition clause of the ACA.
Humphrey and Mondale grew up in small towns. Humphrey decamped to Minneapolis / St. Paul at age 26 and Mondale at age 18.
Mark Zuckerberg? Seriously, as a candidate in his own right, or a deep-pockets moneybag for a handpicked puppet.
He’s been on something of a getting-to-know-flyover country tour, and, last night stayed for dinner with a family in my NE Ohio area. From my local newspaper this morning: “Zuckerberg had asked his staff to find Democrats who had voted for President Donald Trump in November’s election.”
He was Mayor of Newark. When you’re Mayor of Newark, you have one job. If anything, the street crime grew worse during his administration. There’s reason to believe that his voting address was a sham – an empty house where security personnel loitered all day. I’m not sure anyone’s smoked out where he was actually living, but his ‘neighbors’ averred he wasn’t living at his voting address. Also, bachelors are a marketing problem. None have been nominated since the antebellum era.
Either one, if true (and if confirmed publicly), would end his chances of winning the Presidency, not so much because of white people's reaction, but because a black candidate needs a monolithic black vote in both Democratic primaries and the general election. And black church ladies, the sine qua non of any black candidate's voting base, will not turn out enthusiastically -- if at all -- for a black man who, for one reason or another, cannot or will not find his Michelle Robinson.
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/but-they-were-good-to-their-people/2/Replies: @Ganderson
Davey Berman was from St. Paul. Not important to most , but we St. Paulites always claim our own!
What do you think would happen if some more industrious, freshly US naturalized version of El Chappo decided to allocate some of his resources and associates to burst into local
Elks’ Lodge room full of of Spencer's NPI sympathizes to start cracking heads 'till their Spandau Ballet Shirts get all blooden?
And then Chavez X ends his visits with, for some future La Raza monography, suitable quote:
“This is a warning.
Anybody who says anything against Mexicans gets the same treatment.
Only next time it will be worse.”
What Would Mogadishunneapolis PD Do?
What Wouuld Franken Do?
What Would NYT Do?
What Would You Do?Replies: @ganderson
I'm sure it's somewhere...Replies: @ScarletNumber
The first season of SNL is available on DVD, so if this is true, it would be there.
If they're smart they're running a negro. But artculate negros are few and far between, which is why everybody treated Obama like he was a genius. Luckily for them, Trump's voters won't be making that mistake a second time so whoever they run can take it easy.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Stealth
A former supervisor of mine is a REALLY articulate black guy. He has little patience for numbskullery and bullshitting, though, which I guess would make him a lousy politician.
This is the dumbest thing I have read on here. Go back to the losers at OT.
She’s also Princeton and Harvard Law to Hillary’s Wellesley and Yale Law. 🙂
There is only one acceptable candidate for the nomination of the modern Democratic Party. The artist formerly known as Pablo Gomez ie., “They,” is the only suitable nominee. The only question is, should They’s running-mate be Lena Dunham, or Amy Schumer? Schumer’s uncle may give her the inside track, but on the other hand, Lena is a distant cousin of Obama’s mom, so it’s a tough call. Maybe split the difference, and go with Chelsea Clinton?
The formula is: Black to get lots and lots of Black votes. Maybe voting three/four times. "Dreamboat" like Pretty Boy Trudeau, Macron, etc. to get the young White female vote, its the only thing that gets them off the Iphone and TMZ. [The ladies at my office are addicted to TMZ]. Pelosi and Reid raised lots of money, and look at how that got them in the Primaries -- they did not even bother to run. Mike Gravel and that guy from Baltimore got further. No, Bernie is not going to be the nominee -- someone shivved him.
Front Page Drudge Story: Bernie's Wife is under investigation at Burlington College (not Coat Factory) for misappropriation of funds to the tune of $400K. Now you know how Bernie laid out CASH for his $700K beach front retreat cottage in Maine. If you think that was investigative journalism at its finest? Most likely Hillary in her vain attempt to project Chelsea as the Heir to the Throne. Chelsea has her mother's charm and competence and her father's trustworthiness and aversion to vice.
My guess is Oprah seriously considers running, possibly Magic Johnson, Jay-Z [No I'm not kidding] or Jaime Foxx. Any of those would be SERIOUS contenders since they appeal to the overclass in today's America: Blacks and young White women. Two groups above criticism and who if motivated together with the gentry elite form just enough to win. See Obama.
America being led by the Black Party for so many years does not have enough White Pretty Boys with the hard masculine presence of Elton John to put forward. So Black it is.Replies: @Thomas, @Hapalong Cassidy, @neutral, @gda, @Buffalo Joe, @Bill Jones, @Sid, @Stealth, @pyrrhus
Franken is perfect for the role. Elected by vote fraud, operates behind the scenes, doesn’t want to talk about his past.
The right coaching should fix the air head problem, for example, W and even ¡Jeb!.
Neither Bush brother has notable intellectual deficits re what’s necessary for the general run of professional-managerial employment. Neither does Chelsea Clinton. Neither does Barack Obama, whose problem has always been superficiality rather than a deficit of intelligence.
So much of the "general run of professional-managerial employment" are drones who possess little in the way of talent. They can get away with it because their jobs are unimportant and for show only.
That you think so highly of nobodies like Chelsea Clinton or Jeb Bush says more about you than it does about them. Actually, it explains a great deal about you.
Stranger yet, the last elected (not appointed) senator from Minnesota who wasn’t Jewish was Walter Mondale, last reelected in 1972. “Fritz” Mondale is still living, so he could possibly convert. You never know.
I’m not sure that’ll work in 2020. There are only 3 southern Democratic governorships left, namely Louisiana, North Carolina, and Virginia. John Bel Edwards of Louisiana is too conservative for the Donks because he’s pro-life, pro-gun, and he attended West Point. Roy Cooper of North Carolina is somewhat liberal, but he’s not a national figure. The only thing he’s known for is for getting involved in the ‘bathroom bill,’ which is not a feather in any politician’s cap.
The only real potential candidate of the three is Terry McAuliffe of Virginia, who is a big Clinton friend. If they’re going to pick any of the three, it’s going to be McAuliffe, but he’s already been investigated by the FBI for (as usual) illegal campaign donations. The Donks are in a lot of trouble as far as candidates go.
https://middleburycampus.com/35221/news/college-begins-discipline-of-murray-protestors/
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/28/middlebury-college-lowers-boom-campus-protesters-who-disrupted-charles-murray-talk/ZDuJOxqvw1m2MsmQr4S0hO/story.htmlReplies: @Anon
The donors must have been threatening to withhold money unless the administration clamped down on the little snotrags, or else the number of applications they’re receiving are dropping like a rock ala Mizzou.
Here’s one reason why the admins might be concerned. From an article online: “Middlebury’s endowment generated a negative investment return in the fiscal year that ended June 30 [2016] for only the third time in the past 12 years and the first time since 2009. This year’s annual return was -4.5 percent.” This was reported October 2016.
Why not Chuck “Alucard” Schumer? If he can make it there, he should be able to make it anywhere, theoretically.
The Vanity Fair piece, by T.A. Frank (standard liberal politics, but sees clearly and writes even more so), is a beaut. Here’s the link: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/please-god-stop-chelsea-clinton-from-whatever-she-is-doing
Here’s a sample of why Frank is one of my favorite liberal journalists (it’s a very short list):
When I read the phrase “self-regard of an unusual intensity,” I couldn’t help but recall how Chelsea’s mother behaved in her maiden run for elective office. She waltzed into New York — a state where she had never lived, worked or had any connection other than as a giant ATM for her and her husband — declared herself a candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Pat Moynihan, and then had the chutzpah, even by New York standards, to insist (through factota like Harold Ickes) that she would not subject herself to the indignity of a primary, but rather that she expected the powers that be to “clear the field” so she could proceed unopposed.
A New York State Democratic Party worthy of the name would have told Her Royal Highness to perform an anatomically impossible act on her way back to Little Rock, or compete with other Democratic worthies for the nomination (Nita Lowey, Gary Ackerman, Eliot Engel, anyone?) like any other would-be Senator. Instead, then-State Democratic chairman Judith Hope told all other prospective candidates that there would be no primary, and that Mrs. Clinton was “the Party’s choice,” the best chance to keep the seat in Democratic hands (Rudy Giuliani was then expected to run, before prostate cancer and his marital woes overtook him).
“[S]elf-regard of an unusual intensity”? Chelsea may not be her father’s daughter, but she is surely her mother’s. Note to junior U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (Dem.-N.Y.): get yourself a 24/7 bodyguard and a food taster. I hear Fidel’s guy is looking for a new gig, preferably in America.
What a pathetic troll you are. Points 1-5 are all false. Why are you peddling fake news here?
Wow Intelligent Dasein! What caused you to go full Eeyore? I haven’t seen you succumb to despair before. I’d list the reason why you are wrong, but your post did not originate in the reasoning part of your brain.
I’d have bet bigly against you despairing. And Lot would have taken my money.
Pat, could you work a few more f-bombs into your posts? Their concussive dissonance is just so wonderfully pleasant and enjoyable.
Or maybe I am just fantasizing about ripping off her clothes in the moonlight on the Hawaiian sand.Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
Or maybe I am just fantasizing about her disrobing and then ripping off
hermy clothes in the moonlight on the Hawaiian sand in a fit of desire for a spiritual union with me.TFIFY.
“[B]achelors are a marketing problem.” Some masterful understatement there; “Deco” must be short for “decorous,” as that sentence is the most diplomatic way of alluding to the two (mutually exclusive, I think) persistent rumors about Cory Booker’s personal life.
Either one, if true (and if confirmed publicly), would end his chances of winning the Presidency, not so much because of white people’s reaction, but because a black candidate needs a monolithic black vote in both Democratic primaries and the general election. And black church ladies, the sine qua non of any black candidate’s voting base, will not turn out enthusiastically — if at all — for a black man who, for one reason or another, cannot or will not find his Michelle Robinson.
That is what Obama realized.
Exactly. Very sad, but the Democrats demanded, insisted, and consummated this end – assuming they would hold the whip hand. And then they could stomp on your face, forever.
Trump will make mistakes that will be hard to accept. But all paying attention expected that outcome. If the totalitarian leftists do not learn, yet come to power, things will be most unpleasant. And if they win they get to make America into Venezuela.
But we still have a say in what will come. And we can defeat them.
Ex: Immigration questions mean you're a racist and must be fired from your job.
Ex: opposition to gay marriage means you are a bigot and you must be removed from a company you founded.
They are winning and doing a lot to silence any opposition.
Between the trunkloads of “uncounted ballots” and the felon vote for Franken, there can be no doubt who won – Coleman. But Democrats get a pass. Because utopia.
The only real potential candidate of the three is Terry McAuliffe of Virginia, who is a big Clinton friend. If they're going to pick any of the three, it's going to be McAuliffe, but he's already been investigated by the FBI for (as usual) illegal campaign donations. The Donks are in a lot of trouble as far as candidates go.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous
Neither were Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton. Name recognition can be bought. And with enough Wall-Street-Master-of-the-Universe backing, it will be.
The Democrats are playing the long game of rearranging the electorate to secure their position. Short of drastic measures, which some of us had hoped Trump would put into effect, their plan will work. Time and demographics are on their side.
Sixty percent of population is still of Scandinavian/German origin, with- over the last three decades imported - tens of thousands of 75-IQ , ISIS sympathizing Somali goat herders, as Boschwitz/Wellstone/Coleman/Franken were/are being Minneapolis' People's Senators during the same period.Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur
Nice try at shifting the blame. Everyone knows Christians are mostly at fault for allowing dumb immigrants into America, especially Minnesota. Jews only really want Chinese immigrants.
It’s a real mystery why Christians are doing this, but I ran across an evolutionary botanist at the University of Minnesota Crookston named Kevin McSteinberg who shows that Christians have evolved to have a genocidal hatred of Jews. It apparently works the subconscious level so Christians don’t even realize why they’re letting Muslims into America, but McSteinberg proves that the only possible explanation is to drive the Jews away. It’s no coincidence that Somalis are now threatening Jewish owned malls, especially Mall of America.
Why don't you try to enlight us all with some additonal, second-hand talmudic spin on this one:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/
Judah ?
Judah Benjamin Hur ?
Anyone? Anyone?..Replies: @Marty T
Interesting question. The answer is Truman, in 1948, though Johnson was often photographed wearing glasses.
It is notable post TV how cosmeticized American politics became. Its also more cosmetized than in other countries, where you still get bald men with successful political careers sometimes. Its remarkable that Americans seemed to be OK with Trump's ridiculous hairstyle but apparently have no tolerance for outright bald pols.
Contacts and now lasik surgery also makes wearing glasses less likely if your job requires you to appear on TV alot.Replies: @Art Deco, @Sam Haysom, @David Davenport
Contacts and now lasik surgery also makes wearing glasses less likely if your job requires you to appear on TV alot.
Contacts or Lasik surgery at present can’t fix presbyopia, a.k.a. near-sightedness. They can improve myopia, a.k.a. distance vision limitations. OK, are bifocal contact lenses are currently available, but bifocal contacts may have some drawbacks.
Present day TV older TV ppl. rely on large print teleprompters, and laptops or tablets set for larger print displays. To look young or youthful on TV, one needs to be able to read print easily.
Eisenhower and Johnson had to wear glasses because large print teleprompters weren’t on the market in those times? Or perhaps they simply didn’t care so much about being photogenic.
Ronald Reagan was myopic, both when he was Prez and when he was younger. He often wore glasses for distance vision when he was off camera.
Check out Youtube for the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon debates. Both men were under 45 at that time … much younger than Presidents since then. Yes, the sainted JFK was prettier than Nixon, but Lucifer, I mean Nixon, in 1960 appeared to be about as youthful and dark-haired as, say, Paulie Ryno today.
Kinsley was on Crossfire in approx the same era as Franken on SNL.
Franken will have to get past Mark Cuban, Oprah, and --wait for it-- ... Joe Biden.Replies: @Art Deco, @Father O'Hara, @Olorin
Biden ran before when he was much younger. He didn’t make it then he most certainly will not now.
But all of Hillary’s popular vote margin was in California, a state 1) Trump didn’t contest because it was an electoral lock for her, and 2) that is lax in assuring residents it registers to vote are citizens.
I assume you’re simply reproducing John Lennon’s words about Lee Eastman [Sir Paul McCartney’s former father-in-law, and then a prominent copyright and entertainment lawyer in New York, if memory serves], whom Paul had consulted with respect to certain Beatles-related legal matters. I haven’t read the interview, but I can hear Lennon’s voice in that brief excerpt.
Interesting, though, how Lennon — neither an American nor a Jew — instinctively understood the genteel, highly assimilated Eastman’s antipathy towards Allen Klein (the stereotypical Jewish music business shtarker, albeit one shrewd enough to get the better of Mick Jagger, outwitting and outlawyering the former LSE student so badly that Klein’s record company, ABKCO, still owns the master recordings to the Stones’ 1960’s recordings to this day) as just another example of the German/Eastern European Jewish divide. The yekkes against the shtetl dwellers, if you will. Lennon’s keen eye and ear for the subtleties of the English class system probably enabled him to see the “Our Crowd” vs. “Coming To America” fight as just more of the same.
The British penchant for sorting primary school students into university material or worker bees at an absurdly early age (by American standards) leads a lot of ferociously intelligent young men who are temperamentally unsuited for the grammar school/public school-t0-Oxbridge pipeline to pass their immediate post-adolescence time in art school. (Some, in the English equivalent of “he was going to become an astronaut!”, are “thinking about going to art school.” I think they’re called chavs.) The very best of them become life-long autodidacts who are far better read than their “middle-class” peers who went on to university. Some of these young men go into pop music; Lennon and Pete Townshend are only the best known. Another is Mark E. Smith, lead singer, songwriter, charter member and chief theoretician of The Fall, one of England’s greatest indie bands since 1977 and still going strong after four decades. Yet another is Paul Weller (The Jam, The Style Council, solo career), whose lyrics, particularly with the Jam, are unusually sharp on the class divide (see below).
Mark E. Smith of The Fall:
The Jam–Strange Town:
(“You can’t be weird in a strange town/you’ll be betrayed by your accent and manners”)
The Jam–Eton Rifles:
(“All that rugby puts hairs on your chest/what chance have you got against a tie and a crest?”)
Wait — were we talking about Al Franken? Is this still “The Al Franken Decade”? I could have sworn this thread was The Al Franken Thread. And yet someone brought up John Lennon and Allen Klein. And that’s why we keep coming back to Steve. That — and our host’s prolific output.
Difficult? Try impossible. “If I had some ham, I could have ham and eggs… if I had some eggs.” The Democratic Party ain’t going to find another Bill Clinton in this life, and may not find another Barack Obama either. Keep all of the hype about how unpopular Trump is in perspective: he was elected less than five months ago and the party he beat is at its lowest point of political power in 90 years. The fact is, in Presidential politics in general (and re-election of a President in particular), the maxim remains “I don’t have to run faster than the bear, I just have to run faster than the other guy.” The first question to ask if you think Trump is going to lose re-election is “to whom?” Hillary isn’t going to be on the ballot in 2020 (or, if she is, she’ll be a national joke), neither is Gary Johnson, and whoever other than Trump is will be running against the incumbent President which, either way, has a power all of its own. A major hurdle Trump had to overcome in a lot of people’s minds, I believe, was the idea that it was even possible for him to become President.
(For what it’s worth, as of today, April 30, 2017, my personal bet on who the Democrats will run in 2020 for President is Kamala Harris. Another exotic Halfrican-American with two-thirds of a Senate term behind her is reassuringly evocative of the Anointed One, plus she rings in the woman plus the “Asian” diversity points to boot. Watch her get pushed fast up the escalator towards running in 2020.)
The people who voted for Trump enough to make a difference (that is, who voted for him who wouldn’t have otherwise voted for “generic Republican,” or those who put him over the top in the Midwest) don’t need much. The wall, the Second Amendment, the economy, and no major faceplants will do well enough to seal the deal for most people who matter in the right states on Election Day, 2020. Even a major war is likely to lead to a “rally around the flag” effect.
So the question will be (1) whether or not he cucks on the wall, which, given how much he continues to set expectations on it even after reelection, I don’t think he’s going to; and (2) what happens to the economy, which I think will be in for a correction between now and 2020, the questions being how severe and how long it will be. Reagan had a recession that started in July 1981, that hurt in the 1982 midterms, but that had faded enough by Election Day, 1984 that he was reelected. We will see what happens this time.
Funny you should ask. Here is their latest story about preliminary campaigning by the Democratic wing of the Uniparty’s next presidential candidate.
(Oh, and he’s a white Jew, but somewhat young, so only one wing for the relevant angel; sorry.)
“The Donks used to have a rule of not running big city pols for the presidency because pols who worked their way up via dirty political machines were too tainted by financial scandals to win national elections.”
Two words: Harry Truman
democrat who was honest. FDR was forced by the old coalition of White southerners of all classes and northern labor unions to pick anyone but the communist front man Henry Wallace.
By 1944 it was obvious that FDR was dying of cardio vascular disease and the southerners and union members prevailed the Jews to get Truman nominated for VP.
Al Franken taking the nomination would be symbolic of much (but not all) of what the Democrats have become: Jewish-Far-Left, vice-addled coastal elites who create Hollywood/New York entertainment that attack Christian morality / religion and who parachute into the middle of the country only long enough to win them political power back in Washington, which they scurry back to as soon as the election is over.
Yes, I know Franken was originally from Minnesota, but he abandoned MN long ago for his career, and only went back to get elected, where he promptly was put back into the D.C. blue metropolis. I’ll bet half the time he spent shaking locals hands in MN is excruciatingly painful for him, the Great Al Franken, former SNL writer extraordinaire!
If he did take the nom, Franken could complete the Dem ticket best by giving the V.P. to a tranny-black-gay Muslim former Black Panther. In other words, Keith Ellison mixed with Tennessee Coates and RuPaul.
P.S. Franken bragged in one of his books about how he got his raised-Catholic wife to marry him and “abandon” the Pope. I’ll bet Franken didn’t notice it (he’s well-credentialed, but not very smart), but he sounded exactly like a centuries-old stereotype of Jews gleefully defiling Christian girls and getting them to turn their backs on their previous religion.
P.P.S. It occurs to me that many Democrats would love to change our national-office-election system to one similar to England’s, where the candidate for your local federal seat isn’t even from that area and doesn’t live there, but instead is assigned to run in that district by the national party. Then they can dispense with the charade of even being a local yokel good-ol’-boy, which none since Bubba Clinton have been able to pull off.
Here's one of his Verve LP's, Live at the Hungry i, recorded in either late 1959 or early 1960, at the tail end of the Eisenhower administration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c90tyda06jE
Compared to Sahl, guys like Bill Maher, John Oliver and Al Franken are grease spots on the road. (Maher, in particular, is awful: he's made a career out of confusing "libertarian" with "libertine.")Replies: @PapayaSF, @Buffalo Joe, @Hibernian
Sahl is not all that funny in the video. He leans left, but is not as pastisan and self righteous as his current counterparts. I’d give due allowance for the material having grown a little stale over 55 years; however, was it all that cutting edge in 1959 (the year before I started school) to say CPUSA membership was 75% FBI agents?
Of course, he was undone by the JFK assassination, and his career never recovered from a detour into the swamps of conspiracy theories, but if it weren't for Mort Sahl and Lenny Bruce, most comics would still be telling mother-in-law jokes. Bill Maher's entire "swinging bachelor" persona and snarky sarcasm as a substitute for actual humor are but the palest failed attempts to imitate Sahl at his best.
To get a better idea of why Sahl was "cutting edge," and how his work changed comedy (Woody Allen has always acknowledged Sahl as a prime influence on his own stand-up work; the Eric Lax biography of Woody has a few pages on Sahl), see Gerald Nachman's Seriously Funny, covering the comics like Sahl, Bruce, Allen, Nichols & May, Jonathan Winters and others who effectively created modern stand-up. The book proceeds chronologically, so the first chapter is on Sahl (who, the author explains in the foreword, refused to be interviewed for the book since he wasn't the sole focus, but was merely one of many comics being profiled). There are enough references to actual Sahl lines and jokes to make clear how good he was.
Yes, the material is often dated, but that's because we now know, for example, that Eisenhower wasn't the amiable golfer but disengaged president of popular legend, but in fact was fully informed about everything that went on in his Administration. Sahl's jokes about Richard Nixon are especially pointed, given how his own presidency turned out. I'm a political junkie, even about eras that predated me, so I get most of the references, but I understand how someone with at best a passing interest in American politics at mid-century might wonder why the fuss about Mort Sahl.Replies: @Anon, @Hibernian
Two words: Harry TrumanReplies: @Art Deco, @Alden
Truman played piano in the whorehouse of Kansas City politics. He never went upstairs. He was recruited by Franklin Roosevelt to replace the troublesome Henry Wallace. He was an incumbent president before he was a competitor.
A better example might be Al Smith. I’m not sure there was dirt on Smith specifically, just everyone around him.
Booker's major accomplishment as mayor of Newark was to have the murder rate skyrocket.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Dan, Thank you, Newark, not Trenton but two towns you should avoid.
Also to be avoided in New Jersey: Camden and Asbury Park (aka, Camden-by-the-Sea).
Art, Thank you. He also managed to mismanage a $100 million donation from Zuckerberg to help Newark schools.
I fully understand your tribal urge to defend …you tribe.
Why don’t you try to enlight us all with some additonal, second-hand talmudic spin on this one:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/
Judah ?
Judah Benjamin Hur ?
Anyone? Anyone?..
He's been on something of a getting-to-know-flyover country tour, and, last night stayed for dinner with a family in my NE Ohio area. From my local newspaper this morning: "Zuckerberg had asked his staff to find Democrats who had voted for President Donald Trump in November's election."Replies: @res
That’s a valuable puzzle piece. Maybe repost with a link in the Zuck thread? (Mark Zuck thread immediately after this , LOL that I have to be specific) Possible puppet moneybags is also a useful observation.
Agreed, but only because of his age. He keeps looking better and better as his competition gets worse.
Trenton was famous in years past for manufacturing, and of course that Revolutionary War battle. Their railroad bridge sign said Trenton Makes, The World Takes. Booker’s version is Trenton Makes the US Take Fakes.
I was born in 1962, and so lack first-hand knowledge of what was considered “comedy gold” in 1959. However, at that time, only Sahl and Lenny Bruce would have told jokes about Communist Party meetings being infiltrated by FBI agents. And Sahl was a big deal in the late ’50’s and early ’60’s: a regular on shows like Steve Allen’s and Jack Paar’s, a major nightclub draw, several comedy albums on Verve (even before Bob Newhart showed that such records could sell in mass quantities), even the cover of Time when that conferred real status on a person.
Of course, he was undone by the JFK assassination, and his career never recovered from a detour into the swamps of conspiracy theories, but if it weren’t for Mort Sahl and Lenny Bruce, most comics would still be telling mother-in-law jokes. Bill Maher’s entire “swinging bachelor” persona and snarky sarcasm as a substitute for actual humor are but the palest failed attempts to imitate Sahl at his best.
To get a better idea of why Sahl was “cutting edge,” and how his work changed comedy (Woody Allen has always acknowledged Sahl as a prime influence on his own stand-up work; the Eric Lax biography of Woody has a few pages on Sahl), see Gerald Nachman’s Seriously Funny, covering the comics like Sahl, Bruce, Allen, Nichols & May, Jonathan Winters and others who effectively created modern stand-up. The book proceeds chronologically, so the first chapter is on Sahl (who, the author explains in the foreword, refused to be interviewed for the book since he wasn’t the sole focus, but was merely one of many comics being profiled). There are enough references to actual Sahl lines and jokes to make clear how good he was.
Yes, the material is often dated, but that’s because we now know, for example, that Eisenhower wasn’t the amiable golfer but disengaged president of popular legend, but in fact was fully informed about everything that went on in his Administration. Sahl’s jokes about Richard Nixon are especially pointed, given how his own presidency turned out. I’m a political junkie, even about eras that predated me, so I get most of the references, but I understand how someone with at best a passing interest in American politics at mid-century might wonder why the fuss about Mort Sahl.
Uh, I don't see you using your first and last name here, only a pseudonym.
Trump will make mistakes that will be hard to accept. But all paying attention expected that outcome. If the totalitarian leftists do not learn, yet come to power, things will be most unpleasant. And if they win they get to make America into Venezuela.
But we still have a say in what will come. And we can defeat them.Replies: @Yak-15
I hope your right. But they have already outlawed many discussions.
Ex: Immigration questions mean you’re a racist and must be fired from your job.
Ex: opposition to gay marriage means you are a bigot and you must be removed from a company you founded.
They are winning and doing a lot to silence any opposition.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/128930629301/odds-of-a-kanye-west-presidency-90Replies: @Alden
And Kim Kardashian and her pimp mother as co-first ladies. Google Kim kardashian nude photos for a preview of our next First Lady. Some are more like a gynocology text book than sexual.
Two words: Harry TrumanReplies: @Art Deco, @Alden
Supposedly Truman was the only Missouri
democrat who was honest. FDR was forced by the old coalition of White southerners of all classes and northern labor unions to pick anyone but the communist front man Henry Wallace.
By 1944 it was obvious that FDR was dying of cardio vascular disease and the southerners and union members prevailed the Jews to get Truman nominated for VP.
ROFL, LOL, ROFL!!!
Then I got to the end, and this:
"If the Democrats could find a white, populist Southern democrat (admittedly difficult), he’d beat Trump by about 30 points; it’d be the biggest landslide since Bush back in 88."
First of all, if anyone won a presidential election "by about 30 points," it would be the biggest landslide since, roughly, ever. The usual benchmark for modern presidential landslides is LBJ over Goldwater in 1964. Don't they teach this sort of thing in Poli Sci 101 today?
Second, the Democrats had a "white, populist Southern democrat" in the 2016 race. His name was Jim Webb, and he didn't make it to New Hampshire. Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?
So no, I can't take you or your analysis seriously. I see why you post anonymously.Replies: @Anon, @Alden, @Anon, @Anon
“First of all, if anyone won a presidential election “by about 30 points,” it would be the biggest landslide since, roughly, ever. The usual benchmark for modern presidential landslides is LBJ over Goldwater in 1964. Don’t they teach this sort of thing in Poli Sci 101 today? ”
Quit parsing hairs. Do you really think this is a valid point? “Hey everybody, ignore the completely correct statement that guy made because 1968 or…something.” Please. The “30 points” statement was clearly not to be taken literally, so I’ll take your ridiculous critique as the sort of thing the common internet autist would make.
“Second, the Democrats had a “white, populist Southern democrat” in the 2016 race. His name was Jim Webb, and he didn’t make it to New Hampshire. Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?”
Implicit in the statement that I made was that they actually nominate him. I guess reading comprehension isn’t a skill everyone excels at.
“So no, I can’t take you or your analysis seriously. I see why you post anonymously.”
Those who can’t debate, deflect.
Then I got to the end, and this:
"If the Democrats could find a white, populist Southern democrat (admittedly difficult), he’d beat Trump by about 30 points; it’d be the biggest landslide since Bush back in 88."
First of all, if anyone won a presidential election "by about 30 points," it would be the biggest landslide since, roughly, ever. The usual benchmark for modern presidential landslides is LBJ over Goldwater in 1964. Don't they teach this sort of thing in Poli Sci 101 today?
Second, the Democrats had a "white, populist Southern democrat" in the 2016 race. His name was Jim Webb, and he didn't make it to New Hampshire. Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?
So no, I can't take you or your analysis seriously. I see why you post anonymously.Replies: @Anon, @Alden, @Anon, @Anon
Jim Webb is somewhat pro White and pro workers. Can’t have an American president like that.
Of course, he was undone by the JFK assassination, and his career never recovered from a detour into the swamps of conspiracy theories, but if it weren't for Mort Sahl and Lenny Bruce, most comics would still be telling mother-in-law jokes. Bill Maher's entire "swinging bachelor" persona and snarky sarcasm as a substitute for actual humor are but the palest failed attempts to imitate Sahl at his best.
To get a better idea of why Sahl was "cutting edge," and how his work changed comedy (Woody Allen has always acknowledged Sahl as a prime influence on his own stand-up work; the Eric Lax biography of Woody has a few pages on Sahl), see Gerald Nachman's Seriously Funny, covering the comics like Sahl, Bruce, Allen, Nichols & May, Jonathan Winters and others who effectively created modern stand-up. The book proceeds chronologically, so the first chapter is on Sahl (who, the author explains in the foreword, refused to be interviewed for the book since he wasn't the sole focus, but was merely one of many comics being profiled). There are enough references to actual Sahl lines and jokes to make clear how good he was.
Yes, the material is often dated, but that's because we now know, for example, that Eisenhower wasn't the amiable golfer but disengaged president of popular legend, but in fact was fully informed about everything that went on in his Administration. Sahl's jokes about Richard Nixon are especially pointed, given how his own presidency turned out. I'm a political junkie, even about eras that predated me, so I get most of the references, but I understand how someone with at best a passing interest in American politics at mid-century might wonder why the fuss about Mort Sahl.Replies: @Anon, @Hibernian
“I see why you post anonymously.”
Uh, I don’t see you using your first and last name here, only a pseudonym.
Booker v Warren will be a re-run of Obama v Hilary, with the same result.Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Marty T
If Cory Booker decides to run, he’ll demonstrate the seriousness of his commitment by finding a black woman to marry. (Mindy Kaling doesn’t count. http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/25/entertainment/mindy-kaling-cory-booker-dinner-date-trnd/)
Then I got to the end, and this:
"If the Democrats could find a white, populist Southern democrat (admittedly difficult), he’d beat Trump by about 30 points; it’d be the biggest landslide since Bush back in 88."
First of all, if anyone won a presidential election "by about 30 points," it would be the biggest landslide since, roughly, ever. The usual benchmark for modern presidential landslides is LBJ over Goldwater in 1964. Don't they teach this sort of thing in Poli Sci 101 today?
Second, the Democrats had a "white, populist Southern democrat" in the 2016 race. His name was Jim Webb, and he didn't make it to New Hampshire. Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?
So no, I can't take you or your analysis seriously. I see why you post anonymously.Replies: @Anon, @Alden, @Anon, @Anon
“Although I disagree with your analysis, I was willing to take it seriously in the spirit of vigorous give-and-take at which many of Steve’s commenters excel.”
Translation: ‘I couldn’t rebut any of the important points, so I scanned the comment in the hopes of finding something that I could use to divert attention away from that fact. Oh, look…a squirrel.’
Bernie Sanders vs. Donald Trump Poll: Sanders +10 (ouch)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
74% of Americans support higher taxes on the rich
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-74-percent-support-higher-taxes-on-the-rich/
Poll: Majority Support Obama Free Tuition Plan
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/230064-poll-majority-support-obamas-free-tuition-plan
Two-thirds of Americans Support Free College Tuition
http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/college-game-plan/two-thirds-americans-support-free-college-tuition-n620856
Poll: A Record Number of Americans Say the Government Should Do More
http://www.kvoa.com/story/35220679/poll-a-record-number-of-americans-say-government-should-do-more
Should I go on? Or have I made a spelling mistake or failed to mention some obscure fact about a presidential election you once read about in your ancient Poly Sci class that you’d like to comment on?
Here, I’ll reiterate the important point that I was trying to make: Trump is sinking like a stone by supporting elitist republican dogma AND if the Democrats were to nominate an acceptable populist alternative, he’d blow Trump out of the water. Period. End of story.
You’re US History teacher, I believe.
What do you think would happen if some more industrious, freshly US naturalized version of El Chappo decided to allocate some of his resources and associates to burst into local
Elks’ Lodge room full of of Spencer’s NPI sympathizes to start cracking heads ’till their Spandau Ballet Shirts get all blooden?
And then Chavez X ends his visits with, for some future La Raza monography, suitable quote:
“This is a warning.
Anybody who says anything against Mexicans gets the same treatment.
Only next time it will be worse.”
What Would Mogadishunneapolis PD Do?
What Wouuld Franken Do?
What Would NYT Do?
What Would You Do?
https://twitter.com/RefugeeWatcher/status/858486872519184385
Al Franken is importing REFUGEE OVERLOAD into Minnesota and the United States.
Come on guys stop it, I can hurt myself laughing so hard. First Franken and now Corey Booker, LOL!!!!!!! ROFL!!!!! Oh shit I think I peed in my pants, lol!
She’d be an even bigger empty suit/empty vessel for leftists than Hussein was. Urg.
But she would be largely proofed (black + woman) against Trump’s more bombastic stylings, I’ll give you that. He’d have to stick to simple condescension. “She’s a lovely person, who’s never run as much as a lemonade stand.” I suppose the Democrats do still have the time to get her as much relevant experience as Hussein ever had…
That’s a qualification so common as to be practically meaningless.
Can anyone tell me how this is relevant? Electoral votes = essentially mandatory voting = true popular vote. The so-called “popular vote” is just political semantics.
K, I went and asked the Jews, and they said you’re full of shit.
Bingo. Ceteris paribus, Trump will get a bigger incumbent boost than most Presidents have.
Not exactly a high bar to clear.
Stop it. A campaign for President is too much like work. When she ever shown an interest in that?
Buffalo,
Also to be avoided in New Jersey: Camden and Asbury Park (aka, Camden-by-the-Sea).
Kinsley was on Crossfire in approx the same era as Franken on SNL.
Franken will have to get past Mark Cuban, Oprah, and --wait for it-- ... Joe Biden.Replies: @Art Deco, @Father O'Hara, @Olorin
Franken is too compromised by his dealings revolving around the 2008 election/Mark Ritchie/Secretary of State project financed by the Democracy Alliance.
https://ballotpedia.org/Secretary_of_State_Project
http://keywiki.org/Secretary_of_State_Project
http://keywiki.org/Category:Secretary_of_State_Project
One of the secretaries of state supported/elected as a result:
http://keywiki.org/Mark_Ritchie
http://keywiki.org/Mark_Ritchie#2006_Campaign
This will require more digging and less innuendo…but the Dems are opening themselves up to a merdestorm if they’re bankin’ on Franken.
Kamala Harris methinks.
Then I got to the end, and this:
"If the Democrats could find a white, populist Southern democrat (admittedly difficult), he’d beat Trump by about 30 points; it’d be the biggest landslide since Bush back in 88."
First of all, if anyone won a presidential election "by about 30 points," it would be the biggest landslide since, roughly, ever. The usual benchmark for modern presidential landslides is LBJ over Goldwater in 1964. Don't they teach this sort of thing in Poli Sci 101 today?
Second, the Democrats had a "white, populist Southern democrat" in the 2016 race. His name was Jim Webb, and he didn't make it to New Hampshire. Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?
So no, I can't take you or your analysis seriously. I see why you post anonymously.Replies: @Anon, @Alden, @Anon, @Anon
“The usual benchmark for modern presidential landslides is LBJ over Goldwater in 1964. Don’t they teach this sort of thing in Poli Sci 101 today?”
Says who? If anything, the 88 landslide is the better example because it much better represents modern demographics and voting dynamics. Poli Sci has come a long way since 64.
“I note that while you argue that Gary Johnson helped Trump by…”
Hillary won the popular vote by ~3 million despite being incredibly unpopular, and Trump won about the same percentage of the white vote as Romney, or lower. So, as was pointed out, Trump just barely skated by. You are welcome to argue that point.
“Second, the Democrats had a “white, populist Southern democrat” in the 2016 race.”
Jim Webb is a moderate democrat. It is hardly fair to construe him as being a Southern version of Bernie Sanders, which he is not. He didn’t make free college education and healthcare a central part of his campaign. What he did comment on that got attention was that he opposed Obama’s Iran deal.
“I see why you post anonymously.”
So, I take it that ‘Gary in Gramercy’ is your legal name. If not, I fail to see how you have any kind of point.
“Keith Ellison has a better chance of being the 2020 Democratic nominee than Jim Webb, or anyone remotely like him. How could you not know this?”
I believe the statement you are referring to was a hypothetical, so I fail to see how your criticism makes any kind of sense in that context. IF the democrats nominated a younger version of Sanders, they’d win in a landslide. In any case, I would say that Keith Ellison has a better chance at being president on January 21st 2021 than Trump does if Trump passes his tax cuts and removes the pre-existing condition clause of the ACA.
I just found this study, that concludes that the Congressional election most likely tipped by illegals voting is Al Franken’s election in 2008:
From Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections? (2014)
I'd have bet bigly against you despairing. And Lot would have taken my money.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
My confidence in Trump suffered a mortal blow as soon as the missiles flew at Syria, but I wouldn’t describe my mood as one of despair.
Booker v Warren will be a re-run of Obama v Hilary, with the same result.Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Marty T
Maybe, but the black already got his chance, and the feminists will want theirs.
The only real potential candidate of the three is Terry McAuliffe of Virginia, who is a big Clinton friend. If they're going to pick any of the three, it's going to be McAuliffe, but he's already been investigated by the FBI for (as usual) illegal campaign donations. The Donks are in a lot of trouble as far as candidates go.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous
Theres also Jim Justice of West Virginia.
Here's a sample of why Frank is one of my favorite liberal journalists (it's a very short list):When I read the phrase "self-regard of an unusual intensity," I couldn't help but recall how Chelsea's mother behaved in her maiden run for elective office. She waltzed into New York -- a state where she had never lived, worked or had any connection other than as a giant ATM for her and her husband -- declared herself a candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Pat Moynihan, and then had the chutzpah, even by New York standards, to insist (through factota like Harold Ickes) that she would not subject herself to the indignity of a primary, but rather that she expected the powers that be to "clear the field" so she could proceed unopposed.
A New York State Democratic Party worthy of the name would have told Her Royal Highness to perform an anatomically impossible act on her way back to Little Rock, or compete with other Democratic worthies for the nomination (Nita Lowey, Gary Ackerman, Eliot Engel, anyone?) like any other would-be Senator. Instead, then-State Democratic chairman Judith Hope told all other prospective candidates that there would be no primary, and that Mrs. Clinton was "the Party's choice," the best chance to keep the seat in Democratic hands (Rudy Giuliani was then expected to run, before prostate cancer and his marital woes overtook him).
"[S]elf-regard of an unusual intensity"? Chelsea may not be her father's daughter, but she is surely her mother's. Note to junior U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (Dem.-N.Y.): get yourself a 24/7 bodyguard and a food taster. I hear Fidel's guy is looking for a new gig, preferably in America.Replies: @Marty T
Kirsten Gillibrand is someone to watch. As feminist and liberal as Hillary, but more attractive and less baggage.
My maternal grandfather lived in Newark between about 1920 and 1975. It is also where my late mother was born and raised. He worked his way up to become the President and later COTB of a company that might have been the largest employer in Newark. In the early 1960’s the Republican Party tapped him to run as mayor. It was probably rather prescient considering the city was aflame not soon after but he turned it down. The problem was that the company’s main product was sold exclusively to cities, and other state or federal run governments and it would have been a killer to the business because most of his customers were Democrats. Every time I think of that story, I think of Corey Booker.
Why don't you try to enlight us all with some additonal, second-hand talmudic spin on this one:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/
Judah ?
Judah Benjamin Hur ?
Anyone? Anyone?..Replies: @Marty T
Why is it that so many white gentiles refuse to admit that many of our betrayers are our own?
Why is it that so many white gentiles refuse to admit that many of their betrayers are not their own?
Marty, Marty, Marty…
Everything in life is about directions.
When was the last time you’ve read, or heard, or, Yahve forbid, have been lectured at school about something great that this country had done to itself or to the rest of the world?
Fiddler on the Roof is Our Conductor now.
Clergy would be just a clergy, if it wasn’t for a fifty years of government legislative actions that have put them on taxpayers’ sponsored welfare system.
They are financially incentivesed to bring moar huddled masses.
The USA was sold to the lowest, Third American Generation Celler, long time ago:
http://cis.org/Hart-Celler-Immigration-Act-1965
For the umpteenth time, I am arguing the irrelevance of “the popular vote.” Sure, it’s a popular Democrat talking point, but otherwise it’s like some meaningless sports statistic. The germane popular vote is the electoral college, which (as currently constituted) is essentially mandatory voting + popular vote (i.e., by not voting you agree to have your vote counted for the winner of your state), and Trump won it. At best, jabber about the “popular vote” is simply an argument for changing the electoral system, or somehow removing the effectively mandatory voting system.
Of course, he was undone by the JFK assassination, and his career never recovered from a detour into the swamps of conspiracy theories, but if it weren't for Mort Sahl and Lenny Bruce, most comics would still be telling mother-in-law jokes. Bill Maher's entire "swinging bachelor" persona and snarky sarcasm as a substitute for actual humor are but the palest failed attempts to imitate Sahl at his best.
To get a better idea of why Sahl was "cutting edge," and how his work changed comedy (Woody Allen has always acknowledged Sahl as a prime influence on his own stand-up work; the Eric Lax biography of Woody has a few pages on Sahl), see Gerald Nachman's Seriously Funny, covering the comics like Sahl, Bruce, Allen, Nichols & May, Jonathan Winters and others who effectively created modern stand-up. The book proceeds chronologically, so the first chapter is on Sahl (who, the author explains in the foreword, refused to be interviewed for the book since he wasn't the sole focus, but was merely one of many comics being profiled). There are enough references to actual Sahl lines and jokes to make clear how good he was.
Yes, the material is often dated, but that's because we now know, for example, that Eisenhower wasn't the amiable golfer but disengaged president of popular legend, but in fact was fully informed about everything that went on in his Administration. Sahl's jokes about Richard Nixon are especially pointed, given how his own presidency turned out. I'm a political junkie, even about eras that predated me, so I get most of the references, but I understand how someone with at best a passing interest in American politics at mid-century might wonder why the fuss about Mort Sahl.Replies: @Anon, @Hibernian
I think he pulled his punches a little, but the McCarthy period was just barely over. He was definitely better than the SNL crowd, or Nichols and May.
I’ve been very much aware of that fact since I was in junior high school.
But she would be largely proofed (black + woman) against Trump's more bombastic stylings, I'll give you that. He'd have to stick to simple condescension. "She's a lovely person, who's never run as much as a lemonade stand." I suppose the Democrats do still have the time to get her as much relevant experience as Hussein ever had...That's a qualification so common as to be practically meaningless.Can anyone tell me how this is relevant? Electoral votes = essentially mandatory voting = true popular vote. The so-called "popular vote" is just political semantics.K, I went and asked the Jews, and they said you're full of shit.Bingo. Ceteris paribus, Trump will get a bigger incumbent boost than most Presidents have.Replies: @Hibernian
“…she is far less obnoxious than Hillary.”
Not exactly a high bar to clear.
Weren’t Kennedy and Corleone both Irish Holy Water dealers?
Neither Bush brother has notable intellectual deficits re what's necessary for the general run of professional-managerial employment. Neither does Chelsea Clinton. Neither does Barack Obama, whose problem has always been superficiality rather than a deficit of intelligence.Replies: @Mr. Anon
“Neither Bush brother has notable intellectual deficits re what’s necessary for the general run of professional-managerial employment. Neither does Chelsea Clinton. Neither does Barack Obama, whose problem has always been superficiality rather than a deficit of intelligence.”
So much of the “general run of professional-managerial employment” are drones who possess little in the way of talent. They can get away with it because their jobs are unimportant and for show only.
That you think so highly of nobodies like Chelsea Clinton or Jeb Bush says more about you than it does about them. Actually, it explains a great deal about you.
“Why is it that so many white gentiles refuse to admit that many of our betrayers are our own?”
Why is it that so many white gentiles refuse to admit that many of their betrayers are not their own?
PJ O'Rourke said that government was dangerous because it was boring. Soros quietly invested in secretary-of-state races all across the country, and one of his successes was Mark Ritchie in Minnesota. Both statewide recounts under Ritchie went Soros's way. Hmmm...Replies: @Jim Don Bob
An excellent point. It was Stalin who said, “It does not matter who votes; what matters is who counts the votes”.
Hiberian, you know that is an interesting question. The movie, “The Godfather”, is set in post WWII, remember Michael at Sunny’s wedding still wearing his Army uniform. So, that is way post prohibition. Don Corleone’s chops came from his influence peddling and his pocket full of police, politicians and judges. I appeal for help here. I read the book just before the movie came out, so I am fuzzy here. But if I remember correctly, Joe Kennedy Sr. actually imported liquor, Cutty Sark?
What do you think would happen if some more industrious, freshly US naturalized version of El Chappo decided to allocate some of his resources and associates to burst into local
Elks’ Lodge room full of of Spencer's NPI sympathizes to start cracking heads 'till their Spandau Ballet Shirts get all blooden?
And then Chavez X ends his visits with, for some future La Raza monography, suitable quote:
“This is a warning.
Anybody who says anything against Mexicans gets the same treatment.
Only next time it will be worse.”
What Would Mogadishunneapolis PD Do?
What Wouuld Franken Do?
What Would NYT Do?
What Would You Do?Replies: @ganderson
Good questions all. Being a keyboard warrior myself, probably nothing!