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My theory has always been that what we think of as sports are basically tests of masculinity, so it’s not surprising that women seldom do well at them relative to men.

One sport where women might even be better than men is open water swimming. For example, in Southern California’s Catalina Channel Swim of 33 kilometers across the Pacific to Catalina Island, women held the 3 fastest times ever.

Men and women compete in the Olympics in a few sports, such as equestrian (where the horse supplies the horsepower). In the U.S., equestrian events are becoming almost all Rich Girl-dominated, with close to 90% of competitors lately being female.

Men and women competed against each other in shooting in the Olympics for a while, but have gone back to separate competitions. A Chinese woman won a gold over men in one event in 1992.

Undertakings in which women tend to be better than men tend not to be labeled as sports. For example, competitive knitting is a thing,

but it’s not often considered a sport.

Competitive typing used to be pretty big, if I can trust the delightful French period romantic comedy Populaire:

But it seems like more guys are into it now in the computer age.

 
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  1. Ultra distance swimming seems to me to be the only truly athletic competition- involving, speed, power, distance- in which women might be able to outdo men, but even then at the very top level of competition, the men are still faster. You basically only find the women winning when the fields of competition aren’t elite.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Yancey Ward

    How does ocean swimming work? Do they all compete at once or do they go on different days? You kind of need a boat with a rifleman in case you encounter a shark.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Chrisnonymous, @Yancey Ward, @George Taylor, @Anon

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Yancey Ward

    "You basically only find the women winning when the fields of competition aren’t elite."

    That comes close to saying "it's only elite when men do it".


    "Sarah Thomas (born 1982) is an American marathon swimmer.

    On August 10, 2017 she swam 104.6 miles (168.3 km) in Lake Champlain, the first current-neutral open water swim of over 100 miles, and as of 2019 the world record for longest unassisted open-water swim. Her route was a loop starting and finishing at Rouses Point, New York at the north of the lake and swimming south to and around Gardiner Island, Addison County, Vermont.

    In November 2017 she was diagnosed with breast cancer, and underwent surgery, radiotherapy and chemotherapy, swimming as much as possible during her treatment.

    On September 17, 2019 she became the first swimmer to swim four consecutive crossings of the English Channel, in a time of 54 hours 10 minutes."
     
    Now Channel swimming is pretty elite, and indeed men hold the speed records for one/two/three crossings. But only one person's done four.

    I'd never heard of Mercedes Gleitze, the first Brit (albeit German parents) woman to swim the channel, who seemed an all round good egg, founding a charity for the homeless.

    https://moonphase.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/mercedes-gleitze-363x580.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Gleitze

    Mercedes Gleitze or Mercedes Carey (18 November 1900 – 9 February 1981) was a British professional swimmer. She was the first person to swim the Straits of Gibraltar and the first British woman to swim the English channel. The name of Mercedes Gleitze was used to market Rolex's new waterproof case, the "Oyster". She established endurance records for swimming including a record of 46 hours in 1932. She was able to raise funds to found the Mercedes Gleitze Homes in Leicester via sponsorship. The Mercedes Gleitze charity is now linked to the Family Action charity.
     
    Endurance does seem to be a female thing.

    When she first took the endurance swimming record it stood at 26 hours. Over several years she extended this record in public swimming baths where crowds would attend and encourage her by singing together.

    Gleitze married engineer Patrick Carey in Dover in 1930 with the American swimming twins Bernice and Phyllis Zittenfeld as bridesmaids. The ceremony was covered by British newsreels where Gleitze announced that she was off to swim the Hellespont instead of going on honeymoon. Gleitze continued to extend her endurance record to 45 hours the following year. In 1932 she retired after again extending the record finally to 46 hours.

    Gleitze had three children and died aged 80 on 9 February 1981 in a hospital in London.
     
    , @JimDandy
    @Yancey Ward

    Why is the gender-gap narrowed in that particular sport?

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    , @Prof. Woland
    @Yancey Ward

    They have more subcutaneous fat which helps them float better.

    , @Russ
    @Yancey Ward

    'Twas once explained to me by an athletic sassy lass of my acquaintance that the sheilas were better equipped than the mates for those ultra-distance events because 1) she is still burning fat while he is burning muscle and organs, and 2) labor. Darned if I was going to argue.

  2. Pairs figure skating.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Abolish_public_education

    Speaking of figure skating...

    How long until we have a skating pair with a transgender teammate?

    (A long time, I bet, because transgenders can't possibly be as easy to lift. Same for ballet--I bet it will be a long time before we get a prima ballerina with a crotch bulge in its leotard.)

    Replies: @Nico, @Anon

  3. Aren’t there any events in gymnastics in which women (girls really) can beat men due to whatever special features? (I’m thinking along lines such as the higher body fat helping them in the long-distance swimming.)

    How about a question about which team sports men and women can at least play together in harmony? I don’t mean woman on one team and men on the other, but a mix. Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well. It’s not so unbalanced to where it just doesn’t work out.

    Lastly, regarding that Populaire flic. I’m not sure you should trust it, Steve, just because the trailer shows the woman hunt-and-peck typing vs. touch typing. Can someone really win like that? Well, it’s French and romantic, so …

    • Replies: @reactionry
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "How about a question about which team sports men and women can at least play together in harmony?

    Some are adverse to mixed doubles on account of preferring their Scotch* neat.


    * Scotch - best bottled in Bond - as in a Martini (see Henry https://www.shorehamfort.co.uk/past/the-martini-henry-rifle/#:~:text=This%20rifle%20was%20used%20by,barrel%20rather%20than%20the%20end. ) - preferably not shaken -as was the case at Isandlwana, but rather, stirring, as in Rorke -if you get my Drift.
    Alas, that third try for yucks was not the charm. And the first in this lamentable series? Many months ago when SS called for Corona Czar nominations, I titled a moronic post "Drang Nach Osterholm" - an epic fail worse than the epidemiologist's three attempts to swim the English Channel.
    BTW, although he (Mikey) came " within three miles of the French shore in ’86" MO was *not* subsequently hospitalized for exhaustion/hypothermia and misidentified as "the English patient."
    https://www.google.com/search?biw=1130&bih=761&ei=1E_DX-DtILqrwbkP_IaekAk&q=English+channel+Michael+Osterholm&oq=English+channel+Michael+Osterholm&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzoUCAAQ6gIQtAIQigMQtwMQ5QIQiwM6CAgAEMkDEJECOgUIABCRAjoICAAQsQMQgwE6DgguELEDEIMBEMcBEKMCOgUIABCxAzoCCAA6BAgAEEM6BwguELEDEEM6CwguELEDEMcBEKMCOgcIABDJAxBDOggIABCxAxCRAjoICC4QsQMQgwE6BQguELEDOgIILjoLCC4QsQMQyQMQkwI6BQgAEMkDOgkIABDJAxAWEB46BggAEBYQHjoICAAQCBANEB46CwgAEMkDEAgQDRAeUP4SWL5nYMBsaAFwAXgAgAFpiAGFFJIBBDMyLjGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEKuAECwAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjgp_PGn6ftAhW6VTABHXyDB5IQ4dUDCA0&uact=5

    -somebody (maybe a female Russian sniper) shoot me; "Dying is easy; comedy is hard."

    , @Diversity Heretic
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Mixed doubles in tennis? But what will happen when a trans-woman wants to be the female component of a mixed doubles team?

    Replies: @znon

    , @AnotherGuessModel
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Aren’t there any events in gymnastics in which women (girls really) can beat men due to whatever special features? (I’m thinking along lines such as the higher body fat helping them in the long-distance swimming.)
     
    There can be, it really depends on the code of points, which are updated every so often. Some people argue that the tininess and compactness of female gymnasts allow them to be better at some moves than men. I am not convinced this is true. In the past 10-15 years, the code has trended to emphasizing strength and explosive power, and not punishing for poor artistry. This gives men the edge over women (girls). Who cares about training for artistry when you can't do the splits, fall off the beam, and still win gold? Artistry is very misunderstood by a lot of people, who mistakenly view it as a subjective and therefore less important part of judging gymnastics. For example, men cannot do a turnout as well as women, as it's one of several ballet techniques common in gymnastics created specifically with women's bodies in mind.

    If you're familiar with American gymnastics, Nastia Luikin was the last gymnast whose excellent artistry often gave her the winning edge against otherwise equally skilled gymnasts, but if she were competing today, it wouldn't make a difference. On the other hand, Simone Biles would have much lower scores under previous codes that rewarded a more equal balance of artistry and strength. It's all hypothetical of course, but I don't know that either gymnast would be successful if they trained under magically switched eras.

    What's certain male gymnasts often borrow from female gymnasts, and vice versa of course. It's a very equal sport in that sense. There are some incredibly difficult moves that only female gymnasts initially performed successfully, but male gymnasts usually improved upon their difficulty. Simone Biles currently has one or two moves that only she can perform well.

    , @AnotherGuessModel
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I forgot to mention that rhythmic gymnastics was developed from ballet specifically with women's bodies in mind, and has many key moves that men's physiques objectively prevent them from doing as well as women. Men don't compete in RG, but they do participate in exhibitions, and I find it cringey to watch. However, I am curious if people watching without knowledge of RG rules would be able to tell why men are obviously inferior. (There is a different form of rhythmic gymnastics for men that was developed from martial arts, mostly popular in Asia. I don't know much about it, but it's really cool to watch.)

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well
     
    If you were au courant you would know the sport is simply called Ultimate, probably because Frisbee is not a generic term, but rather a registered trademark of Wham-O, as are Hula Hoop, Frisbee, Slip 'N Slide, Super Ball, Trac-Ball, Silly String, Hacky Sack, and Boogie Board.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  4. Anon[169] • Disclaimer says:

    Not really a sport, but who would win a groin kicking competition, men or women?

    Men are of course exceptionally vulnerable down there, so the relative weakness of women in kicking power would be made up for. While men have greater kicking power, but women aren’t as vulnerable down there as men are.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Anon

    Please do not give the feminists any ideas.

    , @the one they call Desanex
    @Anon

    I’ve seen MMA fights in which a female fighter gets kicked in the groin and insists on getting a time-out to recover, just like the men get (no referee would dare refuse). If it’s really the same pain for women, why don’t they wear protective cups like the men?

    , @Rohirrimborn
    @Anon

    Distaff groin kicking competitions are known colloquially as "C**t Punts".

  5. @Yancey Ward
    Ultra distance swimming seems to me to be the only truly athletic competition- involving, speed, power, distance- in which women might be able to outdo men, but even then at the very top level of competition, the men are still faster. You basically only find the women winning when the fields of competition aren't elite.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @YetAnotherAnon, @JimDandy, @Prof. Woland, @Russ

    How does ocean swimming work? Do they all compete at once or do they go on different days? You kind of need a boat with a rifleman in case you encounter a shark.

    • Replies: @Kyle
    @Steve Sailer

    Everyone competes at once in a large group. There’s a violent sprint into the water. Competitors jockey for better positioning, often throwing elbows and yanking the feet of those ahead of them. There is no referee. It’s hard for women to fight their way to the head of the pack out through the breakers and around the first flag. Theoretically if you dropped a bunch of people off in the middle of the ocean and told them to swim, the women would be the last ones to roll over and die. But I’m not sure what the magic distance is, where the average woman would be more competitive than the average man. I suspect it’s more than 33 km, or 20 miles. Although it could be less, that’s a ridiculous distance to swim.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    I hear, if you wear a MAGA body suit, the sharks want nothing to do with you. It's called "shark repugnant".

    My guess is that in the cold of long distance ocean swims, women's extra subcutaneous fat gives them an advantage.

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    , @Yancey Ward
    @Steve Sailer

    I have no idea how it is done- I remember the lady back in the 80s who tried the swim from Florida to Cuba (or vice versa) did it in a shark cage. All I was saying is that the records for ocean swimming from one point to another are all held by men when the elite men choose to swim the particular course involved. I am sure you can find point A to point B ultra long distance swims where women hold the particular record, but it is only because the very best men haven't bothered to swim the course.

    , @George Taylor
    @Steve Sailer

    Open Water/Ocean swimming is set-up much like cross country running events. For example every non pandemic summer there are many open water races in Southern California which are typically 1 - 3 miles in length. These are characterized by large group starts, which can be a bit violent, man against man jockeying for position and man against the elements. It's fun. The official Fédération internationale de natation (FINA) in English: International Swimming Federation, official "marathon" distance is 10K or about 6.3 miles. For elite swimmers, this takes them around two hours, roughly the time equivalent of a running marathon. At the 10K distance, elite women are around 3.5% slower then elite men. The longest official race ran under FINA sanctioning is 25K. The longest regularly run races for the masses is Australia's Rottnest Channel Swim at just under 20K and 20 Bridges, formerly known as the Manhattan Island Marathon swim at 28 miles. Again, elite men have a slight speed edge over elite women.

    There's no official rule, however in the endurance swimming community, at around 20 miles plus, it's considered "ultra" marathon swimming like the English and Catalina Channels. These are not done as races but as relays or individual crossings under the auspices of local governing organizations. FYI - to be official, you cannot wear a wetsuit, must follow rules that disallow certains kinds of assistance such as touching your support boat. The local governing organizations provide an official observer to make sure the swim is done under the rules. For non-regular swims that don't have a local governing organization, such as Sarah Thomas's two record setting swims 104 miles in Lake Champlain and her previous record of 80 miles in Lake Powell were done under the Marathon Swimming Federation (MSF) this organization certifies these swims as long as they follow certain rules (again no wetsuits etc.) and are observed by independent observers. Women dominate the longest "current neutral" swims see link, but men do represent. https://longswims.com/longest-swims/

    Regarding sharks, in the past, sharks that came near were shot. That is no longer acceptable. In shark waters, observers look out for them and will pull the swimmer if needed. Sadly for the swimmer this ends there event, as it violates the assistance rules, but your alive for another day.

    FYI - within the ultra Marathon Swimming community Diana Nyad is considered a charlatan as her swims did not follow MSF rules and were not well documented by independent observers.

    , @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    One of the innumerable Diana Nyad attempts to swim from Cuba to Floridaa ended after she was attacked not by sharks, but by jellyfish. The subsequent attempt had her wearing a jellyfish-proof bodysuit complete with a silicone full-face mask. The mask made her look like the Texas Chainsaw Swamp Thing from the Deep, and was so finicky that her crew had to constantly help her adjust it. This aid apparently was one reason why her final attempt, although she arrived in Florida, was never certified by the international body in question.

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130903094506-diana-nyad-face-mask-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

  6. I always thought quite remarkable that chess, where if you believe in the blank slate theory there should be no reason why the top player in the world should not be a woman, that has never happened. The highest-ranked position a woman has reached was number 8th in 2005 by Judit Polgar, which is universally regarded as the best female chess player ever. Currently, the highest-ranked female chess player in the world, China’s Hou Yifan, is currently number 88 in the world according to Elo rankings (https://ratings.fide.com/)

    • Replies: @theMann
    @Andy

    Chess is knife-fighting without the blood. Testosterone counts there, same as any other fight.

    , @Elli
    @Andy

    A relative was a master chess player, and his belief was that women didn't make the very top levels because tournaments were so physically draining.

    Not to mention competitiveness, interest/obsession, and right tails on the analytical bell curve.

    But the man on the ground thought it was stamina.

    Replies: @CAL2, @keypusher, @Nachum

    , @I, Libertine
    @Andy

    The Queen's Gambit, although an entertaining little item, was Hollywood SJW tripe. Of course, you knew that.

  7. Anonymous[986] • Disclaimer says:

    NHRA (National Hot Rod Association) Drag Racing. Brittany Force (daughter of NHRA legend John Force) won the Top Fuel Championship in 2017. Shirley Muldowney also won it in 1982. In other racing (e.g., IndyCar or NASCAR) women haven’t faired as well.


    Brittany Force


    Shirley Muldowney

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Anonymous


    In other racing (e.g., IndyCar or NASCAR) women haven’t faired as well.
     
    Several women have competed in Formula 1. With, perhaps surprisingly, very little success.
    , @James Braxton
    @Anonymous

    The late great Joey Ramone, ladies and gentlemen.

    Replies: @Squid

    , @anon
    @Anonymous

    All but certain that either Brittany Force is an only child, or she has no brother(s).

    Dad Of Daughter Only has become a pretty obvious thing.

    Replies: @mmack

    , @Currahee
    @Anonymous

    She resented being called "Cha-Cha", but I thought that was a cool name. The movie "Heart Like a Wheel" was ok.

    , @J1234
    @Anonymous

    Drag racing was the first thing that came to my mind as well, but it's actually a somewhat superfluous example. When it comes to getting in a car and pressing the pedal of a car for a quarter mile, yes they can do that, and their generally lighter weight (probably 30 to 40 pounds less than men, on avg.) would be a distinct advantage in a sport where weight is everything. I'm not minimizing the ability to control a 1500-3000 hp vehicle in a straight line, but many early top fuel greats like Tommy Ivo and Don Garlits also wrenched on - and even built and designed - their own cars. Could girls do that as well as boys? I kinda doubt it. What I'm saying is that the prominence of the sport was built by people like Garlits, Bill Jenkins and Dick Landy.

    Shirley Muldowney and other prominent girl racers were married to - or girlfriends of - already established or experienced racers who were in the "wrench on your own car" tradition. Not surprisingly, these guys wrenched on the girls cars as their careers took off. Garlits was the epitome of the one man jack and master of all trades. I doubt any girl could ever achieve at that level. BTW, from what I gather, he was/is also an exceptionally decent person.

  8. The all time highlight in the history of women’s sports may be Tonya Harding whooping Paula Jones in women’s celebrity boxing. I don’t think I will ever forget the look on Jones’ face when she realized Harding seriously intended to inflict damage on her. She was surprised and horrified and scared for her life. I almost felt sorry for her. Tonya terrorized her.

    Did anybody pay to watch Tyson versus Jones tonight? Tyson is back! (That is what I read on the internet; I didn’t see any of it.)

  9. Women are much better at typing than are men. But in the days of typing contests, the winner was often a man. The secret is in the tail, man.

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Reg Cæsar

    Ron Mingo, world’s fastest typist, was on the same high school baseball team with Bobby Tolan, Willie Crawford, and Bob Watson.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+ron+mingo&docid=607998439897433535&mid=0EEBDCFD7221E7E93E5D0EEBDCFD7221E7E93E5D&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

  10. Horse racing! Female jockeys compete against male jockeys, in the race itself and also the race to book good mounts from good barns. Female trainers also compete right along with male trainers for clients and purse money, and that’s a job that requires organization and business savvy along with horse sense.

    It took a 1968 lawsuit before women could ride in US races, and other than Julie Krone not many have made an impact as jockeys at major US tracks, though they do play a bigger role in Australia and New Zealand. Chantal Sutherland was pegged as a rising star because she’s good looking, but it turned out she’s not that good a rider. Rosie Napravnik really was good but gave it up after becoming pregnant.

    High-powered veteran female trainers, often well connected to top breeding farms, include Linda Rice in NY and Kathleen O’Connell in Florida. But a huge win of national significance has still eluded them.

    I do miss Julie Krone — she was tough as nails despite several serious injuries, could wake up an underachieving horse and made a lot of money for me.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Known Fact

    Lady jockeys Mary Bacon and Robyn Smith were in Sports Illustrated a lot in the 1970s.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

  11. We could always make emotional manipulation a sport.

    • Agree: Gary in Gramercy
    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Colin Wright


    We could always make emotional manipulation a sport.
     
    Jews vs. Women?
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright


    We could always make emotional manipulation a sport.

     

    That's called the "two-minute warning".
  12. You should comment on Trump’s election tweets.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @anonymous

    Agree. Indeed, a very important election and post-election. And all we get of Sailer’s journalism is bitchy comments about women’s lack of athletic superiority.

    Replies: @scrivener3, @Currahee

    , @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    This one is easily debunked.

    PA sent out 3 million mail in ballots for the general election.

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

    The 1.8 million Mastriano is referring to is from the _primary_ election.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz

    Now why would someone want to try to confuse the primary election with the general election?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @Eagle Eye

    , @vinny
    @anonymous

    He should not. The blog has gotten much more enjoyable now that he's back to his cultural commentary niche.

    , @Anon
    @anonymous

    He's a pathetic loser and delusional, who has proved nothing where it counts (in court), and needs to drop this subject.

    Replies: @Franz Liszt von Raiding

    , @Father O'Hara
    @anonymous

    If I know the Dear Leader,he has put up this woman stuff to gain time as he researches an ass kicking post about Trump.
    You hear that sh*t about the Delta Force shooting it out with the CIA?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Corn, @Corvinus

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @anonymous


    "Multiple sources called this election differently."
     
    As with "This claim about election fraud is disputed", someone should hack these tweets and insert his own "Qui s'excuse, s'accuse" following. In chartreuse or magenta, for effect.
    , @AnotherDad
    @anonymous

    Seriously, what post could Steve make?

    Trump dies as he lived--all tweet and no cattle.

    Trump tweets out these nuggets of useless nonsense, but the solid, documented, detailed, coherent report stating that these four counties vote dumps at these particularly times are likely bogus for X, Y, Z reasons and/or that these particular election officials in these particular locations cheated in these particular manners and/or whatever other charges are to be made ... isn't there.

    Yes, the Democrats did steal the election. They did it by using the phony "Covid!" excuse to allow ubiquitous mail ballots ... which they could then steal and/or harvest.

    This was straightforward to see coming ... but Trump did nothing.

    Just like he made nothing but incoherent noise, when he could have laid waste to Joe Biden and sealed up the election in the debate.

    Just like he made lots of incoherent noises but never could offer a calm, competent, rejoinder to the corona hysteria.

    Just like he didn't get our soldiers out of Afghanistan now 19 years on.

    Just like he didn't insist on the Wall being completely funded in his first budget negotiations.

    Just like he didn't cancel DACA and all the TPS nonsense on day one.


    Trump's the best President we've had in a long, long time. He actually does not want to screw Americans. Sadly, he lacked the discipline to competently, strategically, relentlessly push forward and explain calmly, coherently and cogently to the American people what he was doing and why it was in their and their children's, their descendants' interest.

    Replies: @anonymous

  13. “If you’re looking at the average times — the average woman is faster than the average man,” said Munatones, who is the founder of the World Open Water Swimming Association. “Which, frankly, I was surprised to see.”

    https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/the-obscure-endurance-sport-women-are-quietly-dominating.html

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @obwandiyag

    They’re more buoyant.

    Replies: @Michelle

  14. it does not matter, that is, sports does not matter.

    when Belorussia and Russia were invaded, the women snipers killed lots of enemy.

    so what if 10 years later in East Germany the survivors logged onto the pact internet of the day and nervously talked about the superiority of men in sport

    the fact is that thousands and thousands of their fellow men died in a moment because a woman sniper killed them

    it is not a fair competition, life, is it?

    stop braggings, sheeples, SPORTS are for rich kids and the deluded, you knows it.

    All that matters is doing what you have to do for those you care about, and remember

    be careful who you don’t care about

    it could be someone you love.

    then you would feel real dumb that you didn’t care

    • Replies: @pyrrhus
    @anonymous as usual

    And then the Russians got rid of all the women in the military....too much drama

    , @millennialdad
    @anonymous as usual

    What is it about the Soviet Union that produces such super deadly sniper ladies?

    Strange how other countries never utilized lady sharpshooting in their wars of survival.

    All I know is it can't be propaganda, only a nazi would think that.

    Replies: @Carlo, @Buffalo Joe, @anonymous as usual

    , @R.G. Camara
    @anonymous as usual

    100% of Communist propaganda about their female shooters is true, comrade.

  15. In sailing, it can be quite close. For example, Kimberly Lim of Singapore beat all the males to become World Champion in the Optimist class in January 2012 in Napier, New Zealand. She was also part of the Singaporean team that won the Team Optimist World Championship on the same occasion, along with Elisa Yukie Yokoyama, Jillian Lee and Jessica Goh.

    It may help that Optimist boats are restricted to children or young adolescents. Girls hit puberty faster, and boys do not have time to build the muscles needed to be World Champion in Olympic-level dinghy classes such as the Laser. Ben Ainslie was already ripped when he won his first Olympic gold medal in 2000, and he put on 40 pounds of extra muscle to win his second one in 2004…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @AnonySail

    Are women ever part of the crew in America's Cup races?

    Replies: @TheBean, @AnonySail, @ben tillman

    , @Anon
    @AnonySail

    I watch a lot of sailing videos on YouTube.

    The quadrennial Vendée Globe competition is going on right now, three months from France to Cape Horn, then around Antarctica, then around the Cape of Good Hope and back to France ... single handed, solo, one guy on a 60-foot boat. The boats are IMOCA 60 class, mostly ultralight carbon fiber hydrofoil boats, with hulls that are only 2 or 3 millimeters thick. These things rise up over the waves and fly ... but this is Antarctica, so there is ice and the whole thing seems crazy to me, one guy who basically cannot sleep for three months on a flying boat in iceberg waters. One of the boats, the Hugo Boss-sponsored boat, has already started to fall apart, and the repair videos are getting a lot of viewership.

    At any rate, I notice that with normal sailing videos, solo or couples, that women really seem to struggle with the rigging ropes. This requires a lot of upper body strength. To be honest, the older guys also struggle (a lot of sailers are well-off older retired guys). The younger and middle-aged men don't seem to struggle, or at least they look like they have things under more control.

    The big competition boats often have push-button electrical sails that spool into the mast or the boom. This would be a big equalizer I would think.

  16. Men and women competed against each other in shooting in the Olympics for a while, but have gone back to separate competitions. A Chinese woman won a gold over men in one event in 1992.

    In my experience of target shooting (as a hobby), women were better than men.

    • Agree: Occasional lurker
    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    @Kent Nationalist

    When competing in rifle competitions, women actually have a physical advantage over men. A lower center of gravity means they sway less in the offhand position. Wider hips enable a more stable sitting position. (I suppose a really busty woman might have some difficulty in the prone position.)

    Add to this the fact that women are generally more coachable than men. There have been women on the Army team.

    However, what happens is that women who shoot in high school rarely pursue the sport after that.

    , @CMP Shooter
    @Kent Nationalist

    Look up the Tomkins/Gallagher women. Those 3 gals are some of the best shooters in the world. Sherri Gallagher set a record in the NRA National High Power Rifle Championship at Camp Perry that may never be broken (2396-161x for those that are familiar with such events).
    http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/mid-tompkins/

  17. They even had separate pro bowling leagues. If they can’t compete with men in that, then none.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Western


    If they can’t compete with men in [bowling], then none.
     
    Bowling skills are strength, accuracy, ball rotation, and harnessing ball characteristics to lane conditions. Male stuff.

    Go down to the local alley and look at the list of 300 games. Probably 90 percent male.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  18. I was thinking maybe “tiddlywinks”? But it seems like the top players are men.

    Since 2000, the World Singles championship has been dominated by Larry Kahn and Patrick Barrie, with each player having won seven matches (as of December 2019)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiddlywinks

  19. Anon[170] • Disclaimer says:

    “Women of the future are on track to run faster than men”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/women-future-are-track-run-faster-men-7907278.html

    “It is the 100 metres final at the 2156 Olympic games. Eight seconds after the starting pistol has fired, the winner takes gold – the first time a woman has beaten a man over this distance.

    “The seemingly impossible prospect of a woman becoming the fastest person on earth is, according to scientists, just a few generations away.”

    The science says.

    For a while there women were going to start winning the marathon also.

    I haven’t heard much about these predictions recently. I think science in this case consists of extrapolating with a linear regression on a few years of past elite athlete data, out a century or so.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    I pretty thoroughly debunked them in 1997. I showed that the narrowing of the gap in 1980s Olympics was due to artificial male hormones having a bigger impact on women. When steroid testing got tougher after 1988, the gap got larger.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @vhrm

    , @pyrrhus
    @Anon

    Women are physically much weaker than men, especially in the upper body where men are twice as strong on average, and average 4 IQ points below men, so very little chance...As men "identifying" as women take over women's sports this will become more and more evident...

    , @Russ
    @Anon


    I haven’t heard much about these predictions recently.
     
    For a while, that Rhonda Rousey woman was touted as a potential male-beater in that ultimate fighting realm. But then she was defeated by fellow female Holly Holm and thus ended that talk. Perhaps a woman of the "non-binary" persuasion will stand and deliver.

    Replies: @Danindc

  20. Chess.

    Hahahahahahahaha

  21. In the 1992 Olympics in Barcelona, the female Chinese skeet shooter, Zhang Shan, won the gold medal in the mixed skeet event with a perfect 200 of 2oo score. Four years later in Atlanta, the skeet event was no longer a mixed competition. Go figure…

  22. Sports come in 5 categories:
    1. Ritual combat
    2. Placing an object in a fixed location more times than your opponent (all the soccer derived games, all the net games)
    3. The bat games (baseball and cricket are strange exceptions in the world of sport).
    Although these sports vary tremendously in rules and objectives, in the end they require some combination of speed and strength so I can think of none where women can compete with men, on average.

    4. Tests of strength, speed or accuracy (racing, weightlifting, target sports)
    Some of these sports require use of equipment that negates men’s advantage in strength and speed. Danica Patrick was a professional race car driver, for example. How about shooting events? Bowling? Curling? Equestrian is an example that was mentioned earlier that fits here.

    5. A panel of experts evaluate who is better at something (figure skating, gymnastics)
    Subjectively judged sports do not have to use strength and speed as criteria to evaluate performance, so women could compete with men here, depending on what you measure. Of course the trend in these sports has been towards more athleticism (figure skating has become a jumping contest) so that makes it harder for women to compete.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    "A panel of experts evaluate who is better at something (figure skating..."

    Especially post-Salt Lake City, there's very little room left in figure skating that is not objectively judged. Don't be fooled by costumes and talk in interviews of artistic e

    And the men are just way better than the women, which would be obvious if they were judged side by side. Physical endurance and strength are key. Women rarely do quad jumps, which pile up the points. The only women who can even do them have a very short window of opportunity when they are young enough to be light but old enough to have enough strength. In other words, their lack of strength causes women skaters to grow out of quad jumping.

    Why don't men just do 20 jumps? They get exhausted and have to budget their jumps, and place most near the beginning. The other things like spins also need strength and speed, although to a lesser extent. A lot of the more artistic looking stuff is just a rest break disguised as part of the routine. It's instructive to compare the competitive routines against the exhibition and ice show routines. The latter two are flashy but simpler.

    I don't know so much about gymnastics, but I think the standards there are also objective, and although experts judge it, there's not a lot of variance in their scores these days.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  23. @Achmed E. Newman
    Aren't there any events in gymnastics in which women (girls really) can beat men due to whatever special features? (I'm thinking along lines such as the higher body fat helping them in the long-distance swimming.)

    How about a question about which team sports men and women can at least play together in harmony? I don't mean woman on one team and men on the other, but a mix. Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well. It's not so unbalanced to where it just doesn't work out.

    Lastly, regarding that Populaire flic. I'm not sure you should trust it, Steve, just because the trailer shows the woman hunt-and-peck typing vs. touch typing. Can someone really win like that? Well, it's French and romantic, so ...

    Replies: @reactionry, @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherGuessModel, @AnotherGuessModel, @ScarletNumber

    “How about a question about which team sports men and women can at least play together in harmony?

    Some are adverse to mixed doubles on account of preferring their Scotch* neat.

    [MORE]

    * Scotch – best bottled in Bond – as in a Martini (see Henry https://www.shorehamfort.co.uk/past/the-martini-henry-rifle/#:~:text=This%20rifle%20was%20used%20by,barrel%20rather%20than%20the%20end. ) – preferably not shaken -as was the case at Isandlwana, but rather, stirring, as in Rorke -if you get my Drift.
    Alas, that third try for yucks was not the charm. And the first in this lamentable series? Many months ago when SS called for Corona Czar nominations, I titled a moronic post “Drang Nach Osterholm” – an epic fail worse than the epidemiologist’s three attempts to swim the English Channel.
    BTW, although he (Mikey) came ” within three miles of the French shore in ’86″ MO was *not* subsequently hospitalized for exhaustion/hypothermia and misidentified as “the English patient.”
    https://www.google.com/search?biw=1130&bih=761&ei=1E_DX-DtILqrwbkP_IaekAk&q=English+channel+Michael+Osterholm&oq=English+channel+Michael+Osterholm&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzoUCAAQ6gIQtAIQigMQtwMQ5QIQiwM6CAgAEMkDEJECOgUIABCRAjoICAAQsQMQgwE6DgguELEDEIMBEMcBEKMCOgUIABCxAzoCCAA6BAgAEEM6BwguELEDEEM6CwguELEDEMcBEKMCOgcIABDJAxBDOggIABCxAxCRAjoICC4QsQMQgwE6BQguELEDOgIILjoLCC4QsQMQyQMQkwI6BQgAEMkDOgkIABDJAxAWEB46BggAEBYQHjoICAAQCBANEB46CwgAEMkDEAgQDRAeUP4SWL5nYMBsaAFwAXgAgAFpiAGFFJIBBDMyLjGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEKuAECwAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjgp_PGn6ftAhW6VTABHXyDB5IQ4dUDCA0&uact=5

    -somebody (maybe a female Russian sniper) shoot me; “Dying is easy; comedy is hard.”

  24. @Achmed E. Newman
    Aren't there any events in gymnastics in which women (girls really) can beat men due to whatever special features? (I'm thinking along lines such as the higher body fat helping them in the long-distance swimming.)

    How about a question about which team sports men and women can at least play together in harmony? I don't mean woman on one team and men on the other, but a mix. Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well. It's not so unbalanced to where it just doesn't work out.

    Lastly, regarding that Populaire flic. I'm not sure you should trust it, Steve, just because the trailer shows the woman hunt-and-peck typing vs. touch typing. Can someone really win like that? Well, it's French and romantic, so ...

    Replies: @reactionry, @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherGuessModel, @AnotherGuessModel, @ScarletNumber

    Mixed doubles in tennis? But what will happen when a trans-woman wants to be the female component of a mixed doubles team?

    • Replies: @znon
    @Diversity Heretic

    Get another one for the other team?

  25. Horse racing and archery.

  26. OT: Surprise! The mainstream media lied about the results of Viking genetics study. One of the authors of the paper:

  27. Maybe certain esports?

    Very interesting video on an all-female esports team that flopped.

    I’d think esports that weren’t so visual-spatial might even things out.

    • Replies: @SIMP simp
    @Kronos

    Men have better hand-eye coordination, there are vastly more boys who play the kind of games that are fit for competitions, boys are more likely to go for professions with an unclear payout like gaming was until recently.
    There's a ton of female twitch streamers but they are either pretty girls living of simps or they have an entertaining personality. None are famous for their skills regardless of the type of game they play, even in games that aren’t as visual-spatial as esports.
    Another interesting aspect of esports is east-asian supremacy and the low number of blacks. I'm sure there's a HBD explanation for it.

    , @Kent Nationalist
    @Kronos

    Maybe a competitive version of Solitaire or those games where you have to find hidden objects?

    , @anonymous
    @Kronos

    Many females in esports are "female".

  28. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    Sports come in 5 categories:
    1. Ritual combat
    2. Placing an object in a fixed location more times than your opponent (all the soccer derived games, all the net games)
    3. The bat games (baseball and cricket are strange exceptions in the world of sport).
    Although these sports vary tremendously in rules and objectives, in the end they require some combination of speed and strength so I can think of none where women can compete with men, on average.

    4. Tests of strength, speed or accuracy (racing, weightlifting, target sports)
    Some of these sports require use of equipment that negates men’s advantage in strength and speed. Danica Patrick was a professional race car driver, for example. How about shooting events? Bowling? Curling? Equestrian is an example that was mentioned earlier that fits here.

    5. A panel of experts evaluate who is better at something (figure skating, gymnastics)
    Subjectively judged sports do not have to use strength and speed as criteria to evaluate performance, so women could compete with men here, depending on what you measure. Of course the trend in these sports has been towards more athleticism (figure skating has become a jumping contest) so that makes it harder for women to compete.

    Replies: @Anon

    “A panel of experts evaluate who is better at something (figure skating…”

    Especially post-Salt Lake City, there’s very little room left in figure skating that is not objectively judged. Don’t be fooled by costumes and talk in interviews of artistic e

    And the men are just way better than the women, which would be obvious if they were judged side by side. Physical endurance and strength are key. Women rarely do quad jumps, which pile up the points. The only women who can even do them have a very short window of opportunity when they are young enough to be light but old enough to have enough strength. In other words, their lack of strength causes women skaters to grow out of quad jumping.

    Why don’t men just do 20 jumps? They get exhausted and have to budget their jumps, and place most near the beginning. The other things like spins also need strength and speed, although to a lesser extent. A lot of the more artistic looking stuff is just a rest break disguised as part of the routine. It’s instructive to compare the competitive routines against the exhibition and ice show routines. The latter two are flashy but simpler.

    I don’t know so much about gymnastics, but I think the standards there are also objective, and although experts judge it, there’s not a lot of variance in their scores these days.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Skating used to have interesting athleticism vs. artistry arguments. Now it's more objective so it's mostly how hard the routine is and do they fall down.

  29. Harness racing driver, gallops jockey are areas where females should be able to hold their own.

    On the other hand, this is what happens when a 17yo girl is allowed to drive a Formula Three racing car:

    • Replies: @mmack
    @Nodwink

    Yes, because male race car drivers never make mistakes, plow into other cars on track, catapult cars into or over crash fences, or, my personal favorite, spin a car off the track and into a retaining wall BEFORE the race starts (Hello Roberto Guerrero, 1992 Indianapolis 500). Nope, never saw a male driver do any of that. 😒

    In my nearly forty years of watching and attending automobile races I've lost count of drivers who have pulled boneheaded stunts and tried "optimistic" maneuvers that tore up cars, knocked themselves and competitors out of the race, injured themselves or other competitors, or sadly killed themselves or others.

    And they're mostly male. And being young, invincible, eager to win and advance their career, and full of testosterone has spread sheet metal, carbon fiber, rubber, fuel, oil, and coolant over more racetracks than I can remember. And it will keep happening until auto racing ceases.

    I'll give her a break.

  30. Not just equestrian – actual horse racing. In Australia there are a number of female jockeys who more than hold their own against the men. Rachel King, Jamie Kah and of course Michelle Payne (who famously won the 2015 Melbourne Cup aboard Prince Of Penzance at $101 and told all the men in the industry to “Get Stuffed”).

    Anyone who says it doesn’t take skill and courage to steer a thoroughbred at 65km/h has never sat on a horse. And the only way you get a chance to ride the best horses is by being a consistent winner on lesser cattle.

    But thoroughbred racing is certainly the exception which proves the rule.

    • Agree: Occasional lurker
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Kev Renmer

    There were a couple of famous lady jockeys in the U.S. in the 1970s. One married Fred Astaire. Last I checked she was working as a corporate jet pilot: the need for speed.

    Replies: @I, Libertine

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Kev Renmer

    Kev, in equestrian events women hold their own against men. Guiding a jumper or hunter through a course and over the jumps takes more than just practice. The horse need to know you are in command.

  31. Back when compulsory figures (variants of figure 8’s etched into the ice) were part of competitive figure skating many of the all time greats were women. When they were taken out of competition the US organization held a separate figures event in which both men and women could competed.

    In recent years they’ve been revived and expanded as a separate competition men and women are separate (the womens field is much larger). The competitors are generally well past competitive days in other types of skating…

    • Thanks: Voltarde
  32. “Men and women competed against each other in shooting in the Olympics for a while…”

    The Five-Year Plan For The Big Five*?

    It has been asserted (look it up yourself, numbnutz) that during The Great Patriotic War the female of the Russian Sniper species was deadlier than the male because of the former’s greater patience (or was it “Conscientiousness*”?). iSteve readers blessed with the powers of recall which so impressed Dr. Korsakoff** might “remember” Reg Caesar’s post about a distaff Ruskie dispatching Major Erwin Hirschsprung at Stalingrad. The preferred position (see Carmichael, Stokely) for snipers is, of course, “prone” (not “supine” -as in the “Alt-lite”) – sometimes maintained for days at a time – which renders shooters prone to fecal impaction – as documented in “Enema at the Gates.”

    ** Korsakoff – if you grokked that zinger, confabulations are in order!

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @reactionry

    There is a great anecdote in Svetlana Alexievich's interviews with female Soviet war veterans (War’s Unwomanly Face). One woman recounts how she was a on a troop train traveling back to the USSR from Berlin in late May 1945 with a group of other happy victorious female snipers, most of whom had been fighting and killing for the previous three years. All of a sudden one of the girls spots a mouse crawling around the floor of the car, and all these battle-hardened young women scramble shrieking up onto their bunks. Women will be women.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  33. If there would be a sport which would consist as a mix of “chase tag” and contortion i think would women would be better then men. The real world situation this sport could relate to would be something like extreme “cave cliving” by which I mean moving as fast as possible through narrow passages in caves.

  34. @Kev Renmer
    Not just equestrian - actual horse racing. In Australia there are a number of female jockeys who more than hold their own against the men. Rachel King, Jamie Kah and of course Michelle Payne (who famously won the 2015 Melbourne Cup aboard Prince Of Penzance at $101 and told all the men in the industry to “Get Stuffed”).

    Anyone who says it doesn’t take skill and courage to steer a thoroughbred at 65km/h has never sat on a horse. And the only way you get a chance to ride the best horses is by being a consistent winner on lesser cattle.

    But thoroughbred racing is certainly the exception which proves the rule.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Buffalo Joe

    There were a couple of famous lady jockeys in the U.S. in the 1970s. One married Fred Astaire. Last I checked she was working as a corporate jet pilot: the need for speed.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @Steve Sailer

    Robyn Smith retired as a jockey after she married Fred Astaire, 43 years her senior.

    She had a tough life, and became a very tough woman.

    Example: Fred was a sharp guy; he owned the rights to exhibit his films. Robyn inherited those rights when Fred died in 1981. When Ginger Rogers received Kennedy Center Honors in 1992, she withheld all rights to clips of Rogers' scenes with Astaire, demanding payment. The show went on without them.

  35. @Anon
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    "A panel of experts evaluate who is better at something (figure skating..."

    Especially post-Salt Lake City, there's very little room left in figure skating that is not objectively judged. Don't be fooled by costumes and talk in interviews of artistic e

    And the men are just way better than the women, which would be obvious if they were judged side by side. Physical endurance and strength are key. Women rarely do quad jumps, which pile up the points. The only women who can even do them have a very short window of opportunity when they are young enough to be light but old enough to have enough strength. In other words, their lack of strength causes women skaters to grow out of quad jumping.

    Why don't men just do 20 jumps? They get exhausted and have to budget their jumps, and place most near the beginning. The other things like spins also need strength and speed, although to a lesser extent. A lot of the more artistic looking stuff is just a rest break disguised as part of the routine. It's instructive to compare the competitive routines against the exhibition and ice show routines. The latter two are flashy but simpler.

    I don't know so much about gymnastics, but I think the standards there are also objective, and although experts judge it, there's not a lot of variance in their scores these days.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Skating used to have interesting athleticism vs. artistry arguments. Now it’s more objective so it’s mostly how hard the routine is and do they fall down.

  36. @Anon
    "Women of the future are on track to run faster than men"

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/women-future-are-track-run-faster-men-7907278.html

    "It is the 100 metres final at the 2156 Olympic games. Eight seconds after the starting pistol has fired, the winner takes gold - the first time a woman has beaten a man over this distance.

    "The seemingly impossible prospect of a woman becoming the fastest person on earth is, according to scientists, just a few generations away."

    The science says.

    For a while there women were going to start winning the marathon also.

    I haven't heard much about these predictions recently. I think science in this case consists of extrapolating with a linear regression on a few years of past elite athlete data, out a century or so.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @pyrrhus, @Russ

    I pretty thoroughly debunked them in 1997. I showed that the narrowing of the gap in 1980s Olympics was due to artificial male hormones having a bigger impact on women. When steroid testing got tougher after 1988, the gap got larger.

    • Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @Steve Sailer

    Unsustainable trends are, well, unsustainable.

    , @vhrm
    @Steve Sailer

    The second half of the article Anon posted mentions this... and check out the scientists' names:


    In fact, another study by exercise scientist Stephen Seiler of the Institute of Health and Sport in Kristiansand, Norway, and his colleague Steven Sailer found that far from getting smaller, the gender gap between male and female athletes was in fact getting wider.

    Dr Seiler and Dr Sailer ...

    The exercise scientists found that the male-female gender gap was narrowest in the 1970s and 1980s - possibly because the illicit use of steroids had made some female athletes more like men - but since the 1990s had begun to widen.
     
  37. @AnonySail
    In sailing, it can be quite close. For example, Kimberly Lim of Singapore beat all the males to become World Champion in the Optimist class in January 2012 in Napier, New Zealand. She was also part of the Singaporean team that won the Team Optimist World Championship on the same occasion, along with Elisa Yukie Yokoyama, Jillian Lee and Jessica Goh.

    It may help that Optimist boats are restricted to children or young adolescents. Girls hit puberty faster, and boys do not have time to build the muscles needed to be World Champion in Olympic-level dinghy classes such as the Laser. Ben Ainslie was already ripped when he won his first Olympic gold medal in 2000, and he put on 40 pounds of extra muscle to win his second one in 2004...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon

    Are women ever part of the crew in America’s Cup races?

    • Replies: @TheBean
    @Steve Sailer

    Gertrude Vanderbilt crewed on her husband Harold's America's Cup campaigns back in the 1930s, standing behind him and telling him what to do. There have been a bunch more women since, including an all women crew in the 1990s on a boat called America3. The new AC75 foiling monohulls now testing down in New Zealand are pretty scary, a Circus Maximus kind of event. Expect clouds of carbon fiber shards raining down into the water. Not my daughter.

    , @AnonySail
    @Steve Sailer

    In 1995, the billionaire Bill Koch sponsored an all-woman team for the America's Cup in San Diego. They "almost" won the Defender's Cup (called Citizen Cup), eventually losing to Dennis Conner. To be fair, they probably should have won, but they made a tactical mistake at the end of the last race.

    That team even had a female psychologist to soothe out the tensions running high between the women who were real sailors, and the "grunts" who were providing the muscular energy on the boat and had been recruited mostly from female rowers, female weightlifters, etc.

    , @ben tillman
    @Steve Sailer

    I seem to recall Lisa Blackaller telling me she was part of her dad's crew in 1983 and 1986, but that was a long time ago.

  38. Doesn’t professional billiards separate the competitors by sex ? I mean c’mon already . The same can be said for professional bowling.

    • Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @anonymous

    Doesn’t professional billiards separate the competitors by sex ? I mean c’mon already . The same can be said for professional bowling.
    Yes, but the top women are really good. I suspect the difference is at least partially male OCD at the very high end.

    In Pool at least, Jack and Jill competitions, or mixed Scotch Doubles are pretty common.

    , @Yawrate
    @anonymous

    Strength (speed of the ball) matters in bowling.

    Billiards, yes, why not?

  39. @Known Fact
    Horse racing! Female jockeys compete against male jockeys, in the race itself and also the race to book good mounts from good barns. Female trainers also compete right along with male trainers for clients and purse money, and that's a job that requires organization and business savvy along with horse sense.

    It took a 1968 lawsuit before women could ride in US races, and other than Julie Krone not many have made an impact as jockeys at major US tracks, though they do play a bigger role in Australia and New Zealand. Chantal Sutherland was pegged as a rising star because she's good looking, but it turned out she's not that good a rider. Rosie Napravnik really was good but gave it up after becoming pregnant.

    High-powered veteran female trainers, often well connected to top breeding farms, include Linda Rice in NY and Kathleen O'Connell in Florida. But a huge win of national significance has still eluded them.

    I do miss Julie Krone -- she was tough as nails despite several serious injuries, could wake up an underachieving horse and made a lot of money for me.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Lady jockeys Mary Bacon and Robyn Smith were in Sports Illustrated a lot in the 1970s.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Steve Sailer

    Their “Sports Illustrated” notoriety was due in no small part to their non-sports notoriety! 😎

  40. @Steve Sailer
    @Known Fact

    Lady jockeys Mary Bacon and Robyn Smith were in Sports Illustrated a lot in the 1970s.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Their “Sports Illustrated” notoriety was due in no small part to their non-sports notoriety! 😎

  41. @Kronos
    Maybe certain esports?

    Very interesting video on an all-female esports team that flopped.

    https://youtu.be/HbH8BhgKXbM

    I’d think esports that weren’t so visual-spatial might even things out.

    Replies: @SIMP simp, @Kent Nationalist, @anonymous

    Men have better hand-eye coordination, there are vastly more boys who play the kind of games that are fit for competitions, boys are more likely to go for professions with an unclear payout like gaming was until recently.
    There’s a ton of female twitch streamers but they are either pretty girls living of simps or they have an entertaining personality. None are famous for their skills regardless of the type of game they play, even in games that aren’t as visual-spatial as esports.
    Another interesting aspect of esports is east-asian supremacy and the low number of blacks. I’m sure there’s a HBD explanation for it.

  42. My grandfather used to be a champion typist. He could make his old Olivetti typewriter sound like a machine gun. Me, I can only type with my two index fingers at a slow pace, even after having taken typing classes. I hate typing.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @BB753

    I hate, hate, hate typing.

    I'm still using paleo-cell phone (Nokia) & not smartphone for a few reasons, one of them being I cannot type anything. Google/Duck/Yippy search is a torture; it takes too much time & it's not doable- at least for me.

    Also, I don't give a hoot about social networks, nor about Internet via smartphone. And I hate touchscreens.

    This- yes:

    https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/c/cellphone.jpg

    This- no:

    https://portagenorthernlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/iPhones-Brand-Banner-900x800.jpg

    Replies: @BB753

  43. Chicago Bears VP wants his daughter to play in the NFL. Vile.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FaberBrandon/status/1332771727907106820

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @AndrewR

    Andrew, no he does't. He is just signaling that he is woke.

    , @ben tillman
    @AndrewR

    Guy's name is Faber. Do you think he believes, "Knowledge is good"?

    , @Mike Tre
    @AndrewR

    Well my first reply to you was apparently flushed by our free speech loving host. It was pretty benign but I guess it all depends on how he's feeling at the moment of moderation.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  44. You’re asking the wrong question, but very close to asking the right one!

    Given dysgenic declining birth rates in virtually all economically developed countries, a better question from an HBD perspective is: Which sport is the best dating sport?

    The best dating sport is badminton.

    1) Simple: Low-cost equipment and no-fuss rules.
    2) Satisfying: Easy to reach a skill level that’s enjoyable (like love itself).
    3) Durable: Lifelong sport (like ideal love).
    4) Equitable: Enjoyable by average-build non-athletes (e.g., nerds).
    5) Artistic: Can be graceful and often dramatic.
    6) Intelligent: Clever girl can teach unsuspecting guy some well-needed humility.
    7) Strategic: High success rate when asking a girl for a first date.
    8) Insightful: Revealing about your date’s personality (and other attributes).

    • Agree: prosa123
    • Thanks: Calvin Hobbes
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Voltarde

    I'd say bowling too. You're really competing against yourself since you're always looking for that higher average or perfect game, so nobody's getting irritated at who gets a higher score. Plenty of talking time with ambient noise to drown out any awkward moments. Drinks served if you want them. Active and not passive (like a movie or show). No dressing to impress; you get to be yourself.

    Hey voltarde, we should set up a real life dating service. No more of this crappy electronic stuff!

    , @Anonymous
    @Voltarde

    You obviously never played badminton above backyard recreational level.

    When quantified carefully, competition-level badminton is the most physically demanding game, easily topping hockey, tennis, basketball or soccer.

    Fittingly for a game that has a lot to do with reaction time, badminton is dominated by East Asians and North Europeans.

  45. @Andy
    I always thought quite remarkable that chess, where if you believe in the blank slate theory there should be no reason why the top player in the world should not be a woman, that has never happened. The highest-ranked position a woman has reached was number 8th in 2005 by Judit Polgar, which is universally regarded as the best female chess player ever. Currently, the highest-ranked female chess player in the world, China's Hou Yifan, is currently number 88 in the world according to Elo rankings (https://ratings.fide.com/)

    Replies: @theMann, @Elli, @I, Libertine

    Chess is knife-fighting without the blood. Testosterone counts there, same as any other fight.

  46. Tearjerker story. An illegal immigrant teenager arrives on the shores of America and goes on to graduate from West Point. Went into Army Aviation.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/haiti-west-point-graduate-photo-crying-tears-us-military-graduate-alix-schoelcher-idrache-academy-a8162151.html

    • Replies: @Peterike
    @anonymous

    “ Tearjerker story. An illegal immigrant teenager arrives on the shores of America and goes on to graduate from West Point.”

    By “tearjerker” I assume you mean “nauseating,” because that’s what that story is.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @bomag
    @anonymous

    From 2016; he was 25. Several stories about him in the meantime.

    Haitians are notoriously low achieving, but he seems capable enough. One thought is that he should be in Haiti helping them, but then we wouldn't have the looped story of a Haitian done good to feed the Narrative, so maybe that was a good use of his talents.

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @Anonymous Jew
    @anonymous

    Immigrant propaganda. Literally. Because the law of averages is raycis.

    Re women, didn’t they do really well in ultra-distance running for a while, though it seems it’s all men now. Whenever there’s a Donner Party fiasco the women last longer. Unless the men eat them first.

    There are sports where the feminine physique can complement men or at least be more entertaining. Figure skating and gymnastics come to mind.

  47. @Yancey Ward
    Ultra distance swimming seems to me to be the only truly athletic competition- involving, speed, power, distance- in which women might be able to outdo men, but even then at the very top level of competition, the men are still faster. You basically only find the women winning when the fields of competition aren't elite.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @YetAnotherAnon, @JimDandy, @Prof. Woland, @Russ

    “You basically only find the women winning when the fields of competition aren’t elite.”

    That comes close to saying “it’s only elite when men do it”.

    “Sarah Thomas (born 1982) is an American marathon swimmer.

    On August 10, 2017 she swam 104.6 miles (168.3 km) in Lake Champlain, the first current-neutral open water swim of over 100 miles, and as of 2019 the world record for longest unassisted open-water swim. Her route was a loop starting and finishing at Rouses Point, New York at the north of the lake and swimming south to and around Gardiner Island, Addison County, Vermont.

    In November 2017 she was diagnosed with breast cancer, and underwent surgery, radiotherapy and chemotherapy, swimming as much as possible during her treatment.

    On September 17, 2019 she became the first swimmer to swim four consecutive crossings of the English Channel, in a time of 54 hours 10 minutes.”

    Now Channel swimming is pretty elite, and indeed men hold the speed records for one/two/three crossings. But only one person’s done four.

    I’d never heard of Mercedes Gleitze, the first Brit (albeit German parents) woman to swim the channel, who seemed an all round good egg, founding a charity for the homeless.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Gleitze

    Mercedes Gleitze or Mercedes Carey (18 November 1900 – 9 February 1981) was a British professional swimmer. She was the first person to swim the Straits of Gibraltar and the first British woman to swim the English channel. The name of Mercedes Gleitze was used to market Rolex’s new waterproof case, the “Oyster”. She established endurance records for swimming including a record of 46 hours in 1932. She was able to raise funds to found the Mercedes Gleitze Homes in Leicester via sponsorship. The Mercedes Gleitze charity is now linked to the Family Action charity.

    Endurance does seem to be a female thing.

    When she first took the endurance swimming record it stood at 26 hours. Over several years she extended this record in public swimming baths where crowds would attend and encourage her by singing together.

    Gleitze married engineer Patrick Carey in Dover in 1930 with the American swimming twins Bernice and Phyllis Zittenfeld as bridesmaids. The ceremony was covered by British newsreels where Gleitze announced that she was off to swim the Hellespont instead of going on honeymoon. Gleitze continued to extend her endurance record to 45 hours the following year. In 1932 she retired after again extending the record finally to 46 hours.

    Gleitze had three children and died aged 80 on 9 February 1981 in a hospital in London.

    • Agree: George Taylor
    • Thanks: bomag
  48. @anonymous
    You should comment on Trump's election tweets.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332552283553476608

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @vinny, @Anon, @Father O'Hara, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    Agree. Indeed, a very important election and post-election. And all we get of Sailer’s journalism is bitchy comments about women’s lack of athletic superiority.

    • Replies: @scrivener3
    @Anon

    Its not a politics blog. It is more an eclectic blog.

    To influence the outcome of the "election" will take more than inside baseball. It is a public relations war. Right now the "there is no evidence" mantra is winning.

    , @Currahee
    @Anon

    Yes, see my comment. So much or the information is totally untrustworthy replete with silly suppositions. I know that our Steve has some formidable contacts and I would love to know what they make of this.

  49. Sailing: long distance solo racing is for very brave and skilled sailors only, and some of the best have been female. It has been suggested that any deficiency in female strength is compensated for by superior ability to cope with lack of sleep. The big boats can be designed to be sailable by a not so strong person, leaving the skilled female sailor with a possible advantage. That seems plausible from an evolutionary perspective, and also from my experience of the sport.

    As to the America’s Cup, the crew of these now consists mainly of hugely strong men providing the grunt, and a few top end sailors providing the smarts. The very top end of sailing (apart from the long distance solo crazy stuff) is all men, women don’t seem to be as insanely focussed on their sport as the men. Useful generalisation across lots of sports and professions, men at the extreme end of the curve are just more obsessive than women. A top end Olympic level sailor will spend his spare time….sailing. The top end women will actually have a day off.

  50. @Steve Sailer
    @AnonySail

    Are women ever part of the crew in America's Cup races?

    Replies: @TheBean, @AnonySail, @ben tillman

    Gertrude Vanderbilt crewed on her husband Harold’s America’s Cup campaigns back in the 1930s, standing behind him and telling him what to do. There have been a bunch more women since, including an all women crew in the 1990s on a boat called America3. The new AC75 foiling monohulls now testing down in New Zealand are pretty scary, a Circus Maximus kind of event. Expect clouds of carbon fiber shards raining down into the water. Not my daughter.

  51. This guy deserves a musical made about him or something.

    The world’s fastest typist:

    This is awesome:

    • Thanks: Voltarde
    • Replies: @Truth
    @wren

    Quite an interesting guy.

    https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/19823/bp-unfiltered-the-worlds-fastest-typist-and-a-half-century-of-baseball/

    Replies: @wren

  52. Badmitton.

  53. In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.

    • LOL: Alfa158
    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @Jonathan Mason

    "In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors."

    Should this be a surprise? Likewise, the best men beat more than 95% of the female competitors. In any contest, the best 5% beat 95% of the competitors.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Jonathan Mason

    'In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.'

    We could also show that the smartest blacks have higher IQ's than 95% of all whites. It wouldn't disprove anything at all.

    ...I wonder what the highest IQ ever recorded for an actual 100%-black black is? 150?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/517lvSTXy4L._SL350_.jpg

    Replies: @Alfa158

  54. it’s not quite ‘men’ but I always found it interesting that some women can compete successfully with boys/teens in wrestling up til about when puberty kicks in in. There have been some state placers, state champs even; some women have winning records vs men in high school (olympic medallists Sara McMann and Helen Maroulis both did, the latter a pretty good record against them too). Nobody would deny that’s an athletically tough sport; on the other hand, in team sports top women’s national teams are notorious for losing to teams of schoolboys.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Inselaffen

    If I'm not mistaken, high school girl wrestlers do best against boys in the lightest weight classes, especially 106 and 113 pounds. It could be that boys who weigh that little aren't fully into puberty, but it's more likely that the boys have to weight cut like crazy to meet those limits and are physically weakened as a result. In contrast, there are a lot more girls whose natural weights are at those levels and they can compete at full strength.

    Replies: @68W58

  55. @Anonymous
    NHRA (National Hot Rod Association) Drag Racing. Brittany Force (daughter of NHRA legend John Force) won the Top Fuel Championship in 2017. Shirley Muldowney also won it in 1982. In other racing (e.g., IndyCar or NASCAR) women haven’t faired as well.


    http://a2.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/MOTORS/images/2016/03/30/033016_motor_nhra_preview.JPG
    Brittany Force

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/32/8e/31/328e31b8d25f88c06b1839f01d8b023f.jpg
    Shirley Muldowney

     

    Replies: @dfordoom, @James Braxton, @anon, @Currahee, @J1234

    In other racing (e.g., IndyCar or NASCAR) women haven’t faired as well.

    Several women have competed in Formula 1. With, perhaps surprisingly, very little success.

  56. Any sport where victory isn’t determined by a distinct, clear metric metric (most runs, most goals, most baskets, fastest time, highest jump) but rather a “holistic” determination based on the whims of the judges involved (artistry, stylishness, form, figure, fitting in with a theme).

    So sports like gymnastics, figure skating, and competitive dancing.

    Also, while they can’t compete on the level of men in tennis—remember the Williams sisters getting blown out by the no. 200 male tennis player?—-women’s tennis used to rival men’s tennis in popularity, mainly due to the fact that most female tennis players were very attractive, feminine-looking women in short skirts (Chris Evert, Anna Kournakova, Jennifer Capriati); the few ugly lesbians in there like Martina Narvatalova stood out for being so out of place.

    Then the mannish Williams sisters swept in and suddenly tennis decided that putting women in ugly, non-attractive outfits was ok, and they all started grunting like men and looking like teenage boys and the popularity dropped.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @R.G. Camara

    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Morton's toes
    @R.G. Camara

    I never ceased to be amazed that Maria Sharapova's coaches and agents haven't convinced her that she would get 10X the endorsement cash if she would ditch the hideous grunting and screaming. It's like 1000 $ bills laying all over the sidewalk to be picked up.

  57. @Jonathan Mason
    In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Colin Wright, @anon

    “In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.”

    Should this be a surprise? Likewise, the best men beat more than 95% of the female competitors. In any contest, the best 5% beat 95% of the competitors.

  58. @Anon
    "Women of the future are on track to run faster than men"

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/women-future-are-track-run-faster-men-7907278.html

    "It is the 100 metres final at the 2156 Olympic games. Eight seconds after the starting pistol has fired, the winner takes gold - the first time a woman has beaten a man over this distance.

    "The seemingly impossible prospect of a woman becoming the fastest person on earth is, according to scientists, just a few generations away."

    The science says.

    For a while there women were going to start winning the marathon also.

    I haven't heard much about these predictions recently. I think science in this case consists of extrapolating with a linear regression on a few years of past elite athlete data, out a century or so.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @pyrrhus, @Russ

    Women are physically much weaker than men, especially in the upper body where men are twice as strong on average, and average 4 IQ points below men, so very little chance…As men “identifying” as women take over women’s sports this will become more and more evident…

  59. @Andy
    I always thought quite remarkable that chess, where if you believe in the blank slate theory there should be no reason why the top player in the world should not be a woman, that has never happened. The highest-ranked position a woman has reached was number 8th in 2005 by Judit Polgar, which is universally regarded as the best female chess player ever. Currently, the highest-ranked female chess player in the world, China's Hou Yifan, is currently number 88 in the world according to Elo rankings (https://ratings.fide.com/)

    Replies: @theMann, @Elli, @I, Libertine

    A relative was a master chess player, and his belief was that women didn’t make the very top levels because tournaments were so physically draining.

    Not to mention competitiveness, interest/obsession, and right tails on the analytical bell curve.

    But the man on the ground thought it was stamina.

    • Replies: @CAL2
    @Elli

    I'm at the patzer level in tournaments and even there it is draining. So, that is one thing. I think the rest of your items also play a significant part. There simply isn't a large pool of females that can play chess at the highest levels. That pool gets a lot smaller when you find that number that want to play at that level.

    , @keypusher
    @Elli

    I played chess, not at your relative's level. I never thought stamina came into it. But in work (lawyer, in my case), I remember we males would wind up being the only ones still working at 3:00 am. One of the women on the case thought it was biological. But I thought the men on the case just couldn't stop working, and the women could.

    , @Nachum
    @Elli

    A cousin of mine is one of the top players in the world, and I once asked him why the concept of "coaches" exists in chess. (He has one, of course.) After all, if you can coach a great chess player, aren't you smart enough to be one yourself? At the very least, if you take age into account, shouldn't every coach have *been* a top player at some point?

    He answered that a lot more goes into it than just simple intelligence. There are many, many factors here, both relating to what's inside your head (personality, etc.) and the rest of your body. So you can coach without necessarily being the best yourself. (Of course, pretty much every coach to a top player is a great player himself- just not at the very top.)

    (And of course age is a factor, for reasons that don't have to do with a lessening of intelligence. When a great player keeps going even into his 40's it tends to be remarked upon.)

    Women would, as a group, thus be at a disadvantage for the "rest of the body" stuff, and if we're not going to be those fantasists who deny that there's any difference between men's and women's brains, they may be at a disadvantage on the non-intelligence mind issues as well.

  60. @Kronos
    Maybe certain esports?

    Very interesting video on an all-female esports team that flopped.

    https://youtu.be/HbH8BhgKXbM

    I’d think esports that weren’t so visual-spatial might even things out.

    Replies: @SIMP simp, @Kent Nationalist, @anonymous

    Maybe a competitive version of Solitaire or those games where you have to find hidden objects?

  61. • Replies: @LadyTheo
    @dumrunner

    I was getting ready to throw in ultra running. Especially as the ultra gets more ultra. The Moab 240 record (yes, that is 240 miles) is held by a woman. (I see you linked to that.)

    Now, there isn't a woman who can compete with Scott Jurek. But the really good women are much closer to the really good men (and sometimes win) than in other sports, it seems to me. Anne Trayson held her own with the men.

    Heck, I am almost 60, and I routinely beat much, much younger men in ultra races.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  62. If it wasn’t cruelly dismissed as a hobby rather than a sport, Some welfare kweens could excel at plunge for distance.

  63. @Anonymous
    NHRA (National Hot Rod Association) Drag Racing. Brittany Force (daughter of NHRA legend John Force) won the Top Fuel Championship in 2017. Shirley Muldowney also won it in 1982. In other racing (e.g., IndyCar or NASCAR) women haven’t faired as well.


    http://a2.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/MOTORS/images/2016/03/30/033016_motor_nhra_preview.JPG
    Brittany Force

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/32/8e/31/328e31b8d25f88c06b1839f01d8b023f.jpg
    Shirley Muldowney

     

    Replies: @dfordoom, @James Braxton, @anon, @Currahee, @J1234

    The late great Joey Ramone, ladies and gentlemen.

    • Replies: @Squid
    @James Braxton

    No way. No black leather jacket, no Joey Ramone.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

  64. Equestrian events and vehicle racing events are competitions where a woman’s smaller frame is a benefit to power / weight ratio.

    Smaller, more buoyant women seemingly have an advantage in open water swimming because they have less mass to move through the water and don’t have to expend as much energy merely staying afloat.

    • Replies: @Mark Roulo
    @Mike Tre

    "Equestrian events and vehicle racing events are competitions where a woman’s smaller frame is a benefit to power / weight ratio. "

    Which is why most jockeys are female :-)

    I think that small male jockeys have a better power/weight ratio than women.

  65. @Anon
    Not really a sport, but who would win a groin kicking competition, men or women?

    Men are of course exceptionally vulnerable down there, so the relative weakness of women in kicking power would be made up for. While men have greater kicking power, but women aren't as vulnerable down there as men are.

    Replies: @SFG, @the one they call Desanex, @Rohirrimborn

    Please do not give the feminists any ideas.

  66. @anonymous as usual
    it does not matter, that is, sports does not matter.

    when Belorussia and Russia were invaded, the women snipers killed lots of enemy.

    so what if 10 years later in East Germany the survivors logged onto the pact internet of the day and nervously talked about the superiority of men in sport

    the fact is that thousands and thousands of their fellow men died in a moment because a woman sniper killed them

    it is not a fair competition, life, is it?

    stop braggings, sheeples, SPORTS are for rich kids and the deluded, you knows it.

    All that matters is doing what you have to do for those you care about, and remember

    be careful who you don't care about

    it could be someone you love.

    then you would feel real dumb that you didn't care

    Replies: @pyrrhus, @millennialdad, @R.G. Camara

    And then the Russians got rid of all the women in the military….too much drama

  67. @Western
    They even had separate pro bowling leagues. If they can't compete with men in that, then none.

    Replies: @bomag

    If they can’t compete with men in [bowling], then none.

    Bowling skills are strength, accuracy, ball rotation, and harnessing ball characteristics to lane conditions. Male stuff.

    Go down to the local alley and look at the list of 300 games. Probably 90 percent male.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @bomag


    Go down to the local alley and look at the list of 300 games. Probably 90 percent male.

     

    Not the candlepin lanes. Or the duckpin lanes.

    You'll have to ask a Texas German what the story is with ninepin.

    "Whereas tenpin alleys were usually found in saloons and other establishments frequented exclusively by men, ninepin alleys were often built by clubs patronized by families."

    Replies: @prosa123

  68. Plausible today an NHL goalie who could stop the puck even if she was female could theoretically play. That wasn’t the case even a few years ago, but since enforcement of rules about running the goalie has been much more increased and enforced, could in theory happen. But reality is no female goalie is good enough. In the recent past the position required a more physical guy to stand his ground, you have tough often little guys like Billy Smith (listed as 5’10”) who would guard his crease like an axe-wielding lunatic. But since you no longer have to worry about that, premium is now on size to cover the net area. Almost every NHL goalie is now over 6 foot, and some like Ben Bishop (6’7″) taller than that. And you still have rare instances where a goalie has to step up and force opposing skaters out of his crease. A woman physically could never do that and there aren’t many women over 6 foot.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manon_Rh%C3%A9aume Rheaume was a publicity stunt by a bad team. US women’s national team Kendall Coyne competed at the 2019 NHL All Star game speed skating event. In high school, lots of girls do compete in men’s hockey, and there is checking. There is supposed to be no checking in most of women’s hockey, but contact is an unavoidable given. But problem is as the boys gets bigger and more physical, a female forward or defenseman physically simply could not deal with that.

  69. Anonymous[724] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    You should comment on Trump's election tweets.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332552283553476608

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @vinny, @Anon, @Father O'Hara, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    This one is easily debunked.

    PA sent out 3 million mail in ballots for the general election.

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

    The 1.8 million Mastriano is referring to is from the _primary_ election.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz

    Now why would someone want to try to confuse the primary election with the general election?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Anonymous

    If it is as easily debunked as you claim then that in itself deserves a post.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous

    The Trump Team is probably making a mistake by throwing every allegation off the internet against the wall. The mathematical improbability of the last-minute vote drops in battleground states is the most compelling evidence. This analysis is pretty thorough and rigorous:
    https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

    From the executive summary:


    Looking at 8,954 individual vote updates (differences in vote totals for each candidate between successive changes to the running vote totals, colloquially also referred to as “dumps” or “batches”), we discover a remarkably consistent mathematical property: there is a clear inverse relationship between difference in candidates’ vote counts and and the ratio of the vote counts. (In other words, it's not surprising to see vote updates with large margins, and it's not surprising to see vote updates with very large ratios of support between the candidates, but it is surprising to see vote updates which are both).

    The significance of this property will be further explained in later sections of this report. Nearly every vote update, across states of all sizes and political leanings follow this statistical pattern. A very small number, however, are especially aberrant. Of the seven vote updates which follow the pattern the least, four individual vote updates — two in Michigan, one in Wisconsin, and one in Georgia — were particularly anomalous and influential with respect to this property and all occurred within the same five hour window.

    In particular, we are able to quantify the extent of compliance with this property and discover that, of the 8,954 vote updates used in the analysis, these four decisive updates were the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th most anomalous updates in the entire data set. Not only does each of these vote updates not follow the generally observed pattern, but the anomalous behavior of these updates is particularly extreme. That is, these vote updates are outliers of the outliers.

    The four vote updates in question are:

    An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump

    An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump

    A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump

    An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump

    This report predicts what these vote updates would have looked like, had they followed the same pattern as the vast majority of the 8,950 others. We find that the extents of the respective anomalies here are more than the margin of victory in all three states — Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia — which collectively represent forty-two electoral votes.
     
    https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

    Replies: @anon, @anonymous

    , @anonymous
    @Anonymous

    PA SoS messed with the numbers after Guiliani presented evidence to screw him.

    But assume that it's true, and 3 million mail in ballots were returned. That means that 40% of the mail voters did not request ballots for the primary. Doesn't make sense. All of these voters decide at the last minute that they care about the election now? The GOP didn't even have a competitive primary so GOP voters would have been more likely to do something like that.

    The PA f*ckery is obvious.

    , @Eagle Eye
    @Anonymous


    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
     
    Github is owned and controlled by Bill Gates's Microsoft.


    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz
     
    "Government Efficiency - Citizen Engagement" - such a relief to see that propaganda tactics have NO PLACE in the running of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania which is in the hands of only the most sober, serious and sage women and men of established character.
  70. @Steve Sailer
    @Yancey Ward

    How does ocean swimming work? Do they all compete at once or do they go on different days? You kind of need a boat with a rifleman in case you encounter a shark.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Chrisnonymous, @Yancey Ward, @George Taylor, @Anon

    Everyone competes at once in a large group. There’s a violent sprint into the water. Competitors jockey for better positioning, often throwing elbows and yanking the feet of those ahead of them. There is no referee. It’s hard for women to fight their way to the head of the pack out through the breakers and around the first flag. Theoretically if you dropped a bunch of people off in the middle of the ocean and told them to swim, the women would be the last ones to roll over and die. But I’m not sure what the magic distance is, where the average woman would be more competitive than the average man. I suspect it’s more than 33 km, or 20 miles. Although it could be less, that’s a ridiculous distance to swim.

  71. I wouldn’t be surprised if women were inherently better at typing – at least when it is picked up on a short time frame.

  72. Well you could have a handicap match ala the Billie Jean King vs. Bobby Riggs tennis match in the 1970s. Take a woman in her prime and place her against an aging 50 something year old man long past his prime. I still wonder if Riggs threw the match on purpose. We are talking early 1970s here and the Woman’s Lib movement was still big then so Riggs might have been made an offer he couldn’t refuse. hehe.

    How about an elite woman fast pitch softball pitcher, pitching against some MLB players who have been retired from baseball for at least 10 years or more. The mound in female’s fast pitch is much closer to the plate, and the underhand delivery would surely throw the batter’s off. It could be like a George Plimpton deal where he pitched to the MLB all-stars that year. Who knows maybe the female could pitch to current major league players since there is indeed a difference in the pitcher’s delivery and distance to the plate.

    Former boxer Ann Wolfe vs. the average man in a boxing match. Ann Wolfe in her prime would have probably beat half the men out there. haha. That is one tough female.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Trinity


    so Riggs might have been made an offer he couldn’t refuse. hehe.
     
    It's been rumored he owed gambling debts to the Mob.
    , @Orville H. Larson
    @Trinity

    "Former boxer Ann Wolfe vs. the average man in a boxing match. Ann Wolfe in her prime would have probably beat half the men out there. haha. That is one tough female."

    Well, I suppose so, and why not? A well-conditioned, well-trained female boxer would defeat an untrained, out-of-condition male. Of course, put her in with a male boxer, and the situation is reversed. . . .

  73. @Anon
    Not really a sport, but who would win a groin kicking competition, men or women?

    Men are of course exceptionally vulnerable down there, so the relative weakness of women in kicking power would be made up for. While men have greater kicking power, but women aren't as vulnerable down there as men are.

    Replies: @SFG, @the one they call Desanex, @Rohirrimborn

    I’ve seen MMA fights in which a female fighter gets kicked in the groin and insists on getting a time-out to recover, just like the men get (no referee would dare refuse). If it’s really the same pain for women, why don’t they wear protective cups like the men?

  74. Any team sport, as long as the women on each team are in the same positions.

    I rather fancy the idea of partially integrating the NFL by having all women quarterbacks.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Joe Magarac

    Women quarterbacks? Instead of "Omaha Hut One! Omaha Hut One!" at the line of scrimmage, the QB would be calling out, "We need to talk ... Are you listening to me?"

    I am seriously impressed with some fast-pitch college softball hurlers -- the NCAA tourney is a good show. They're usually pretty chunky, rather than the typical modern pro baseball pitcher who is tall, all arms and legs.

  75. What about people who can solve the Rubik’s cube in a few seconds? Wasnt there a girl who did that well? (The current champion is some hopelessly autistic boy if I remember.)

  76. @anonymous
    Doesn't professional billiards separate the competitors by sex ? I mean c'mon already . The same can be said for professional bowling.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @Yawrate

    Doesn’t professional billiards separate the competitors by sex ? I mean c’mon already . The same can be said for professional bowling.
    Yes, but the top women are really good. I suspect the difference is at least partially male OCD at the very high end.

    In Pool at least, Jack and Jill competitions, or mixed Scotch Doubles are pretty common.

  77. are female athletes allowed to supplement with testosterone? Do they do that? Does testosterone improve their performance?

  78. @Nodwink
    Harness racing driver, gallops jockey are areas where females should be able to hold their own.

    On the other hand, this is what happens when a 17yo girl is allowed to drive a Formula Three racing car:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsNYfvtzvwE

    Replies: @mmack

    Yes, because male race car drivers never make mistakes, plow into other cars on track, catapult cars into or over crash fences, or, my personal favorite, spin a car off the track and into a retaining wall BEFORE the race starts (Hello Roberto Guerrero, 1992 Indianapolis 500). Nope, never saw a male driver do any of that. 😒

    In my nearly forty years of watching and attending automobile races I’ve lost count of drivers who have pulled boneheaded stunts and tried “optimistic” maneuvers that tore up cars, knocked themselves and competitors out of the race, injured themselves or other competitors, or sadly killed themselves or others.

    And they’re mostly male. And being young, invincible, eager to win and advance their career, and full of testosterone has spread sheet metal, carbon fiber, rubber, fuel, oil, and coolant over more racetracks than I can remember. And it will keep happening until auto racing ceases.

    I’ll give her a break.

  79. @Abolish_public_education
    Pairs figure skating.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Speaking of figure skating…

    How long until we have a skating pair with a transgender teammate?

    (A long time, I bet, because transgenders can’t possibly be as easy to lift. Same for ballet–I bet it will be a long time before we get a prima ballerina with a crotch bulge in its leotard.)

    • Replies: @Nico
    @Chrisnonymous

    I bet it will be a long time before we get a prima ballerina with a crotch bulge in its leotard.

    It will probably happen sooner than you think, and however awful s/h/it looks the whole apparatus of "People" presstitutes will sell the act as "beautiful."

    , @Anon
    @Chrisnonymous


    How long until we have a skating pair with a transgender teammate?

    (A long time, I bet, because transgenders can’t possibly be as easy to lift.
     
    Watching the NHK Cup the last couple of days with my wife I noticed that Daisuke Takahashi has rebranded as a pairs skater. But since he's not that big, he and his partner are about the same size. He does seem to be struggling with her.

    I noticed that one of the "Japanese" skaters in the competition was a big male American with a petite Japaense partner. And I know of at least one Japanese woman who took Russian citizenship to skate with a big Russian partner. The males from bigger nationalities are taking small Asian partners, and the Asian males are kind of screwed.

    The male really needs to be able to easily pick up and throw the woman around in pairs. And what is it about women that they seem to be able to trust themselves to men that way, the same way they will ride pillion on a motorcycle with no apparent worries? I took some motorcycle training at a Honda facility years ago where the instructors would flag you down and put you on pillion while they demonstrated something that you were doing wrong, and these guys were expert riders, yet still I was scared to death. My girlfriend, however was totally blasé about riding pillion with me as far as I could tell.

    Back to skating: We attended a couple of days of one of the ISU competitions in Tokyo years ago, and there was a horrific accident with a Canadian pairs couple during the exhibition. The guy was twirling his partner around and then she fell to the ice and had to be taken to the hospital, so pairs is definitely risky for the woman especially.

    Replies: @HFR, @Reg Cæsar

  80. I saw somewhere a brief mention that certain specific types of canoeing were favorable to women when the lower center of gravity offset the lesser upper body strength. I wasn’t interested enough to follow the link.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Bill Jones

    Kayaking. Women have more inherent stability than men. A woman also can use a lighter boat which is an advantage. I don’t know if it means they are necessarily faster, though.

    Surprisingly, the sport is still only 45 percent female.

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Bill Jones

    I can attest to the likelihood of this from bitter personal experience.

    I studied in the UK for my junior year of college, and took an outdoors sports class as part of the deal. It involved a lot of kayaking, both in the sea and in rivers. I'm very tall, and at that age was underweight. I therefore had terrible weight distribution in a kayak, at least in terms of keeping it upright. I tipped my topheavy self over into the icy waters, both fresh and salt, on multiple occasions.

    Meanwhile, several of the girls in my class who were, shall we say, visibly unathletic, never the less were as stable as corks in their kayaks because their capacious backsides provided excellent ballast, and since their upper bodies were comparatively light.

  81. A few quick searches revealed some handwriting competitions that, as I anticipated, were won by females. The SATIPS and Zaner-Bloser competitions are for grade school children and the winner of every age group for the most recent year was a girl. Not a sport, but Steve mentioned typing and knitting, so, why not.

  82. Competitive typing used to be pretty big, if I can trust the delightful French period romantic comedy Populaire….But it seems like more guys are into it now in the computer age.

    Sounds like it could be terminal….

  83. @Steve Sailer
    @Yancey Ward

    How does ocean swimming work? Do they all compete at once or do they go on different days? You kind of need a boat with a rifleman in case you encounter a shark.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Chrisnonymous, @Yancey Ward, @George Taylor, @Anon

    I hear, if you wear a MAGA body suit, the sharks want nothing to do with you. It’s called “shark repugnant”.

    My guess is that in the cold of long distance ocean swims, women’s extra subcutaneous fat gives them an advantage.

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
    @Chrisnonymous

    Chrisnonymous: My guess is that in the cold of long distance ocean swims, women’s extra subcutaneous fat gives them an advantage.

    That was always thought to be true, and in the past lady channel swimmers seemed to be somewhat chubbier than competitive athletes now, but all their fat was very evenly distributed, like seals. One swimmer said in an interview that they were supposed to put on fat before a long swim. It's probably a very slow-twitch sport, too.

  84. @Andy
    I always thought quite remarkable that chess, where if you believe in the blank slate theory there should be no reason why the top player in the world should not be a woman, that has never happened. The highest-ranked position a woman has reached was number 8th in 2005 by Judit Polgar, which is universally regarded as the best female chess player ever. Currently, the highest-ranked female chess player in the world, China's Hou Yifan, is currently number 88 in the world according to Elo rankings (https://ratings.fide.com/)

    Replies: @theMann, @Elli, @I, Libertine

    The Queen’s Gambit, although an entertaining little item, was Hollywood SJW tripe. Of course, you knew that.

    • Agree: Andy
  85. I always wondered why women and men couldn’t compete against each other in Pool, but maybe the fact that women can’t hit the break as hard as men can puts them at a disadvantage.

    I also wonder if there is any sport in which having large breasts would be an advantage. Shooting or archery maybe? Gives them something to rest their arm on to keep it steady.

  86. @anonymous
    Doesn't professional billiards separate the competitors by sex ? I mean c'mon already . The same can be said for professional bowling.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @Yawrate

    Strength (speed of the ball) matters in bowling.

    Billiards, yes, why not?

  87. @Kev Renmer
    Not just equestrian - actual horse racing. In Australia there are a number of female jockeys who more than hold their own against the men. Rachel King, Jamie Kah and of course Michelle Payne (who famously won the 2015 Melbourne Cup aboard Prince Of Penzance at $101 and told all the men in the industry to “Get Stuffed”).

    Anyone who says it doesn’t take skill and courage to steer a thoroughbred at 65km/h has never sat on a horse. And the only way you get a chance to ride the best horses is by being a consistent winner on lesser cattle.

    But thoroughbred racing is certainly the exception which proves the rule.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Buffalo Joe

    Kev, in equestrian events women hold their own against men. Guiding a jumper or hunter through a course and over the jumps takes more than just practice. The horse need to know you are in command.

  88. Curling.

    Men and women, and people of different ages often compete in mixed teams.

    A very well mannered and polite sport.

    At international and Olympic levels men and women compete separately except in mixed doubles formats like tennis.

    Very White as well which helps with the politeness, although the Japanese and Koreans do take a hand against the other cold climaters.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    @Gordo

    Bad joke alert.

    Curling involves sweeping, so yes, a woman could be useful.

  89. Let’s not classify sports competitors by sex. Historically, that has only worked well about 99.997% of of time, and now we have the additional issue of how to not oppress M-to-F transgenders without turning women’s sports into a joke. Instead, let’s come up with a Rube Goldberg scheme that would only be slightly more complicated than the tax code. What could possibly go wrong?

    Why it might be time to eradicate sex segregation in sport

    https://theconversation.com/why-it-might-be-time-to-eradicate-sex-segregation-in-sports-89305

    It’s been solved in the Paralympics

    Paralympic sport has been forced to deal much more closely with the issue of classification owing to the range of bodies that compete.

    In the 1990s, the classification system changed to one that was based on functional ability rather than on medical conditions. It continues today, where rather than labelling athletes as having a particular medical condition, they are placed in a racing category based on the movements their body can perform, related to the sport they compete in.

    We suggest that in able-bodied sport, it would similarly make sense to remove the label of male or female and replace it with categories based on the ability of bodies to move in that particular sport. This is a confronting notion, as we are not used to thinking about sex and gender as based on particular traits.

    In sport, movement is based on physical ability, which is not necessarily linked to sex. In each sport, it would be possible to identify the characteristics which make up a successful athletes and create categories based on those rather than on sex.

    For example, for a 100m sprinter, the ideal athlete would perhaps be made up of muscle mass and fast-twitch fibres. Therefore, rather than classifying by sex, sprinters could be classified by their level of muscle mass and fast-twitch fibres.

    In another example, in sports such as high jump, volleyball and basketball, athletes could be classified according to muscle mass and height.

  90. @Kent Nationalist

    Men and women competed against each other in shooting in the Olympics for a while, but have gone back to separate competitions. A Chinese woman won a gold over men in one event in 1992.

     

    In my experience of target shooting (as a hobby), women were better than men.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @CMP Shooter

    When competing in rifle competitions, women actually have a physical advantage over men. A lower center of gravity means they sway less in the offhand position. Wider hips enable a more stable sitting position. (I suppose a really busty woman might have some difficulty in the prone position.)

    Add to this the fact that women are generally more coachable than men. There have been women on the Army team.

    However, what happens is that women who shoot in high school rarely pursue the sport after that.

  91. The shooting team at TCU has historically been all or mostly women and they’re very competitive nationally. In shooting sports where time isn’t a factor women can match or exceed men. When rate of fire is important (biathlon, etc.) men perform better but in target shooting or skeet/trap shooting women can do just as well. I’ve heard the theory that it’s because women don’t get as excited holding a gun as men do so they’re able to remain calm while aiming.

    In college one of the fraternities held a trap shooting competition as a fundraiser. One of the teams had a girl on it who competed nationally throughout her childhood and naturally she was at the top of the board. I got a laugh out of my gun enthusiast friend asking her what she shot and getting the response “I don’t know, just whatever my dad puts in my hands.”

  92. @Steve Sailer
    @Kev Renmer

    There were a couple of famous lady jockeys in the U.S. in the 1970s. One married Fred Astaire. Last I checked she was working as a corporate jet pilot: the need for speed.

    Replies: @I, Libertine

    Robyn Smith retired as a jockey after she married Fred Astaire, 43 years her senior.

    She had a tough life, and became a very tough woman.

    Example: Fred was a sharp guy; he owned the rights to exhibit his films. Robyn inherited those rights when Fred died in 1981. When Ginger Rogers received Kennedy Center Honors in 1992, she withheld all rights to clips of Rogers’ scenes with Astaire, demanding payment. The show went on without them.

  93. Trying as a high school competition in Texas at least until 1980. The slide rule competition ended in the mid 1970’s but there was still number sense (doing hard math problems without scratch paper), In 1980 Texas added a calculator competition that was always won by an HP calculator user.

  94. @Anonymous
    NHRA (National Hot Rod Association) Drag Racing. Brittany Force (daughter of NHRA legend John Force) won the Top Fuel Championship in 2017. Shirley Muldowney also won it in 1982. In other racing (e.g., IndyCar or NASCAR) women haven’t faired as well.


    http://a2.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/MOTORS/images/2016/03/30/033016_motor_nhra_preview.JPG
    Brittany Force

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/32/8e/31/328e31b8d25f88c06b1839f01d8b023f.jpg
    Shirley Muldowney

     

    Replies: @dfordoom, @James Braxton, @anon, @Currahee, @J1234

    All but certain that either Brittany Force is an only child, or she has no brother(s).

    Dad Of Daughter Only has become a pretty obvious thing.

    • Replies: @mmack
    @anon

    John Force has the following daughters:

    Ashley Force
    Brittany Force
    Courtney Force

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Reg Cæsar

  95. Here’s some scholarly insanity on the subject (both authors tenured professors):

    13 five-star ratings (friends and family of authors?), 2 one-star ratings.

    • Replies: @Larry, San Francisco
    @Calvin Hobbes

    $45.00 on Kindle! What a racket

  96. Auto racing should be an example. However to win, you have to be very aggressive. A psychological study in the 60s said that the most aggressive athletes were auto racers and marathon runners. Danica Patrick is the only woman I had ever seen that was as aggressive as a man. If her career was managed better, she would have won more.

  97. @Yancey Ward
    Ultra distance swimming seems to me to be the only truly athletic competition- involving, speed, power, distance- in which women might be able to outdo men, but even then at the very top level of competition, the men are still faster. You basically only find the women winning when the fields of competition aren't elite.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @YetAnotherAnon, @JimDandy, @Prof. Woland, @Russ

    Why is the gender-gap narrowed in that particular sport?

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @JimDandy

    Body composition. Fat layering. Women float better, and probably retain core body temperature better.

  98. This has come up many times in iSteve’s past:

    Rifle shooting. Even though men and women compete separately in Olympics, there is basically no evidence for sex disparities in this *skill* – and it’s quite possible that women are actually better on average.

  99. Anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnonySail
    In sailing, it can be quite close. For example, Kimberly Lim of Singapore beat all the males to become World Champion in the Optimist class in January 2012 in Napier, New Zealand. She was also part of the Singaporean team that won the Team Optimist World Championship on the same occasion, along with Elisa Yukie Yokoyama, Jillian Lee and Jessica Goh.

    It may help that Optimist boats are restricted to children or young adolescents. Girls hit puberty faster, and boys do not have time to build the muscles needed to be World Champion in Olympic-level dinghy classes such as the Laser. Ben Ainslie was already ripped when he won his first Olympic gold medal in 2000, and he put on 40 pounds of extra muscle to win his second one in 2004...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon

    I watch a lot of sailing videos on YouTube.

    The quadrennial Vendée Globe competition is going on right now, three months from France to Cape Horn, then around Antarctica, then around the Cape of Good Hope and back to France … single handed, solo, one guy on a 60-foot boat. The boats are IMOCA 60 class, mostly ultralight carbon fiber hydrofoil boats, with hulls that are only 2 or 3 millimeters thick. These things rise up over the waves and fly … but this is Antarctica, so there is ice and the whole thing seems crazy to me, one guy who basically cannot sleep for three months on a flying boat in iceberg waters. One of the boats, the Hugo Boss-sponsored boat, has already started to fall apart, and the repair videos are getting a lot of viewership.

    At any rate, I notice that with normal sailing videos, solo or couples, that women really seem to struggle with the rigging ropes. This requires a lot of upper body strength. To be honest, the older guys also struggle (a lot of sailers are well-off older retired guys). The younger and middle-aged men don’t seem to struggle, or at least they look like they have things under more control.

    The big competition boats often have push-button electrical sails that spool into the mast or the boom. This would be a big equalizer I would think.

  100. @Steve Sailer
    @Yancey Ward

    How does ocean swimming work? Do they all compete at once or do they go on different days? You kind of need a boat with a rifleman in case you encounter a shark.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Chrisnonymous, @Yancey Ward, @George Taylor, @Anon

    I have no idea how it is done- I remember the lady back in the 80s who tried the swim from Florida to Cuba (or vice versa) did it in a shark cage. All I was saying is that the records for ocean swimming from one point to another are all held by men when the elite men choose to swim the particular course involved. I am sure you can find point A to point B ultra long distance swims where women hold the particular record, but it is only because the very best men haven’t bothered to swim the course.

  101. Well Stefi Cohen can compete with all but the elite men powerlifters when it comes to the deadlift and squat. She definitely has some very, very respectable numbers for her weight that would match up well against most males, hell, it would defeat most males that weigh between 115-123lbs in those two lifts. Have no idea how much she bench presses but it probably isn’t that much, women just don’t have the upper body strength of males.

    • Replies: @Moral Stone
    @Trinity

    True, but Stefi also appears to be on serious steroids, to the point of some vocal masculinization and “roid gut.” Obviously, the male competitors are also juiced to the gills, but gear is probably an equalizer when it’s used in a sport with weight classes. It will allow a woman of a given height to probably pack on muscle at a low body fat in order to fill out one of the lower weight classes.

    An interesting question is, given enough anabolic steroids, is there a big difference between male and female “ceilings” for a given height/frame?

    Replies: @prosa123

  102. >NHRA (National Hot Rod Association) Drag Racing.

    That makes sense. IIRC, old track and field studies showed that women have better pure reaction times (i.e., response to the starting gun), but men’s have enough of a power advantage to overcome that initial burst.

  103. @Jonathan Mason
    In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Colin Wright, @anon

    ‘In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.’

    We could also show that the smartest blacks have higher IQ’s than 95% of all whites. It wouldn’t disprove anything at all.

    …I wonder what the highest IQ ever recorded for an actual 100%-black black is? 150?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Colin Wright

    It was 191.

  104. @reactionry
    "Men and women competed against each other in shooting in the Olympics for a while..."

    The Five-Year Plan For The Big Five*?

    It has been asserted (look it up yourself, numbnutz) that during The Great Patriotic War the female of the Russian Sniper species was deadlier than the male because of the former's greater patience (or was it "Conscientiousness*"?). iSteve readers blessed with the powers of recall which so impressed Dr. Korsakoff** might "remember" Reg Caesar's post about a distaff Ruskie dispatching Major Erwin Hirschsprung at Stalingrad. The preferred position (see Carmichael, Stokely) for snipers is, of course, "prone" (not "supine" -as in the "Alt-lite") - sometimes maintained for days at a time - which renders shooters prone to fecal impaction - as documented in "Enema at the Gates."

    ** Korsakoff - if you grokked that zinger, confabulations are in order!

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    There is a great anecdote in Svetlana Alexievich’s interviews with female Soviet war veterans (War’s Unwomanly Face). One woman recounts how she was a on a troop train traveling back to the USSR from Berlin in late May 1945 with a group of other happy victorious female snipers, most of whom had been fighting and killing for the previous three years. All of a sudden one of the girls spots a mouse crawling around the floor of the car, and all these battle-hardened young women scramble shrieking up onto their bunks. Women will be women.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Peter Akuleyev

    'There is a great anecdote in Svetlana Alexievich’s interviews with female Soviet war veterans (War’s Unwomanly Face). One woman recounts how she was a on a troop train traveling back to the USSR from Berlin in late May 1945 with a group of other happy victorious female snipers, most of whom had been fighting and killing for the previous three years. All of a sudden one of the girls spots a mouse crawling around the floor of the car, and all these battle-hardened young women scramble shrieking up onto their bunks. Women will be women.'

    I'll call bullshit on that one. Think about where these women supposedly had been living for the previous three years. There were no vermin in all those dugouts, half-destroyed barns, etc?

    The anecdote tells us more about the time and place in which it was dreamed up than about Soviet snipers in 1945.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  105. @anonymous
    You should comment on Trump's election tweets.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332552283553476608

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @vinny, @Anon, @Father O'Hara, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    He should not. The blog has gotten much more enjoyable now that he’s back to his cultural commentary niche.

  106. In the World Surf League, the explicit criterion is speed, power and flow. It is essentially a gymnastic type sport if the equipment in the gym moved around while you were competing.

    A few years ago, there was a bit of a to-do about women’s pay not being equal. The women don’t surf Pipeline or Teahupoo which are essentially twenty foot waves that break on dry reef. So…not exactly equal. But what do I know. I like watching the women in surfing and tennis because they tend to be quite comely and their skill set is a lot more relatable to me as an amateur athlete. I don’t surf Pipeline either. It would kill me.

  107. The obvious: Sport-Fucking

    • Thanks: black sea
    • Replies: @Steve-oh
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Dad always told me you can’t whup anything that fights on its back.

  108. A situp contest. Army physical fitness standards in this event, back in the day, required more from women than men, due to pelvic and/or abdominal muscle advantages. Then, due to PC, TPTB decided that standards would be equal for one event, and that one event was the situp.

    • Replies: @Ola
    @Hibernian


    Army physical fitness standards in this event, back in the day, required more from women than men, due to pelvic and/or abdominal muscle advantages.
     
    No it is simple mechanics and due to a more advantageous upper body/lower body weight ratio. A light upper body and heavy legs make sit ups much easier.
  109. Foosball. You don’t need to be strong, you don’t need to be tall. You do need a delicate touch.

    The reason women don’t already compete at the highest level is that women are less likely to become obsessive about inanimate things.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @International Jew


    Foosball. You don’t need to be strong, you don’t need to be tall. You do need a delicate touch.
     
    Are you aware of what you wrote?

    Smh....

    https://yoursoccerhome.com/soccer-is-harder-than-football-4-reasons-why/

    Replies: @prosa123, @International Jew, @guest007

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @International Jew

    I worked with a woman who competed in air hockey tournaments. (Who the hell does that?) We were both writers. When our office had an informal proof-reading contest, she beat me for first place by one error, and thus won the giant jar of jelly beans. That hurt.

  110. I always thought one thing where men should have no advantage is chipping and putting in golf. But you watch the men’s and women’s tours for a few hours and you quickly realize how wide the talent gap is even in delicate hand-eye challenges.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @Bragadocious

    Chipping and putting is enhanced by being a good driver and having good approach shots. If you are chipping too much that means you are not sticking the green unless you are on a par five. Easier said than done, this is why the ladies play on shorter courses. In miniature golf I would say it is a draw.

    Replies: @Bragadocious

  111. I wonder if women do as well as men in downhill skiing events?

    I’ll guess not — simply because women tend to be less competitive.

    • Replies: @Q-ship
    @Colin Wright

    Absolutely not. Strength, explosiveness, agility, and coordination are of paramount importance in alpine ski racing. The gap between elite men and women is at least as great as the gap in sprinting.

    Several years ago, I remember watching a skills competition where a prime Bode Miller dusted a field that included several NFL and NBA players. Elite alpine ski racers are some of the world’s best athletes.

    , @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    @Colin Wright

    Not at all, and it’s not even close. I visited the Park City courses for women’s and men’s super g, and it’s not even close. The pitch of the women’s super g is equal to the pitch of the men’s slalom. (Ie the fastest women’s even is taking place on a similar pitch as the slowest, most technical men’s event)

  112. @Peter Akuleyev
    @reactionry

    There is a great anecdote in Svetlana Alexievich's interviews with female Soviet war veterans (War’s Unwomanly Face). One woman recounts how she was a on a troop train traveling back to the USSR from Berlin in late May 1945 with a group of other happy victorious female snipers, most of whom had been fighting and killing for the previous three years. All of a sudden one of the girls spots a mouse crawling around the floor of the car, and all these battle-hardened young women scramble shrieking up onto their bunks. Women will be women.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘There is a great anecdote in Svetlana Alexievich’s interviews with female Soviet war veterans (War’s Unwomanly Face). One woman recounts how she was a on a troop train traveling back to the USSR from Berlin in late May 1945 with a group of other happy victorious female snipers, most of whom had been fighting and killing for the previous three years. All of a sudden one of the girls spots a mouse crawling around the floor of the car, and all these battle-hardened young women scramble shrieking up onto their bunks. Women will be women.’

    I’ll call bullshit on that one. Think about where these women supposedly had been living for the previous three years. There were no vermin in all those dugouts, half-destroyed barns, etc?

    The anecdote tells us more about the time and place in which it was dreamed up than about Soviet snipers in 1945.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Colin Wright

    The point of the woman telling the story was that as soon as the war ended the girls wanted to be girls again and shed their warrior selves. They probably weren’t literally terrified by the mouse, they were mutually reinforcing each other’s femininity.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  113. What about Curling? Should there really be separate teams for men and women? The physical/strength demands are really quite minor. It’s all about concentration and skill. The claim that men can handle a broom better than women seems wrong.

  114. There is considerable overlap between the abilities of men and women in various sports.

    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population. I am surprised that so many men think they can compete with elite women athletes. Almost none can.

    So elite men vs elite women competitions the men are clearly dominant, but very few men are elite athletes and would lose quickly in whatever sport one wants to consider competing against the elite woman athlete.

    • Replies: @Peterike
    @lavoisier

    “ Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population”

    Uh huh.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/amp/

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Marty
    @lavoisier

    Possibly true. I was a non-elite basketball junkie, something of a defensive stopper in mostly black pick-up games. One day in Berkeley, I had to guard a member of a women’s national team, Iceland or Norway, who was a shade under 5’7”. I couldn’t get to her shot, and she burned me all day.

    , @Unzerker
    @lavoisier

    The average man has a higher grip strength than the strongest female athletes.
    On top of that National women football teams get always beaten by teenage boys when they play friendly games.

    https://fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/col1.jpg

    , @TWS
    @lavoisier

    Simply not true. Good high school judo players are hardly elite but they'll wipe the floor with professional female mma fighters. Put an average college mma fighter with a female pro and he simply dominates.

    It's the same in any sport, boys regularly beat female national or championship teams. Every year or so, an idiot coach puts her nationally ranked or championship soccer, basketball, you name it against a good local boys team sometimes literally boys 14 and under or Jr high. The women get humiliated with a blowout. There's so little overlap that an average male athlete 50th percentile has greater upper body strength than 90th percentile female. It's as if there were significant differences in design and materials between the two groups.

    Replies: @lavoisier, @Trinity

  115. Women do much worse than men at anything where success can be quantified objectively. Where it can’t, they do better.

    One exception I think is success in any academic area that basically tests for submitting to authority and conforming, like high school or sociology or anything where, once again, there’s not much objectivity.

    I also used to think possibly competitive Scrabble, but then I saw a documentary about it and the big champion was…a man. That could be an exception though.

    • Troll: Rosie
  116. As far as viewing goes, figure skating, gymnastics, and volleyball are much more compelling on the female side than the male side. But maybe that’s just a hetero male bias of mine. Hmmm.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @F. Galton

    Mens indoor volleyball is much better as a viewer. Womens beach volleyball is the best viewing event of any Olympic event, for obvious reasons.

  117. Babe Didrikson did pitch to male batters in a few MLB spring training games. The question is whether Didrikson was a better all around athlete than Jim Thorpe, taking in consideration that Didrikson is a female of course. Didrikson, like Thorpe, would definitely make the top 10 of any list of best all around athletes, can’t imagine an argument against that one at all. But at 126-130lbs, Babe wasn’t about to compete on a level field against any top male athlete at any game.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Trinity

    The Woman Who (Maybe) Struck out Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig



    https://img1.newspapers.com/img/thumbnail/10699578/400/300/402_282_725_1191.jpg

  118. Anyone remember seeing shot putter, Brian Oldfield, compete against world class female sprinters back in the day. This is the female athlete vs. the male athlete in reverse. Oldfield was a massive 6’5″ 280lb shot putter built like a Greek god, but he was gifted with remarkable speed for such a large individual. Oldfield beat world class female sprinters back in the day. Always wonder if any NFL team back then went after Oldfield or gave him a tryout. This was a case where the male athlete’s size was a disadvantage and where he competed with female world class athletes in their chosen profession. Remember when Ronda Rousey wanted to challenge Floyd Mayweather to a MMA match? Well, we would eventually see that Rousey, while a god in judo, didn’t have much of a striking game, and no chin whatsoever. Floyd by involuntary manslaughter unless Rowdy Ronda got lucky and locked onto one of Floyd’s spindly limbs.

  119. @Achmed E. Newman
    Aren't there any events in gymnastics in which women (girls really) can beat men due to whatever special features? (I'm thinking along lines such as the higher body fat helping them in the long-distance swimming.)

    How about a question about which team sports men and women can at least play together in harmony? I don't mean woman on one team and men on the other, but a mix. Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well. It's not so unbalanced to where it just doesn't work out.

    Lastly, regarding that Populaire flic. I'm not sure you should trust it, Steve, just because the trailer shows the woman hunt-and-peck typing vs. touch typing. Can someone really win like that? Well, it's French and romantic, so ...

    Replies: @reactionry, @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherGuessModel, @AnotherGuessModel, @ScarletNumber

    Aren’t there any events in gymnastics in which women (girls really) can beat men due to whatever special features? (I’m thinking along lines such as the higher body fat helping them in the long-distance swimming.)

    There can be, it really depends on the code of points, which are updated every so often. Some people argue that the tininess and compactness of female gymnasts allow them to be better at some moves than men. I am not convinced this is true. In the past 10-15 years, the code has trended to emphasizing strength and explosive power, and not punishing for poor artistry. This gives men the edge over women (girls). Who cares about training for artistry when you can’t do the splits, fall off the beam, and still win gold? Artistry is very misunderstood by a lot of people, who mistakenly view it as a subjective and therefore less important part of judging gymnastics. For example, men cannot do a turnout as well as women, as it’s one of several ballet techniques common in gymnastics created specifically with women’s bodies in mind.

    If you’re familiar with American gymnastics, Nastia Luikin was the last gymnast whose excellent artistry often gave her the winning edge against otherwise equally skilled gymnasts, but if she were competing today, it wouldn’t make a difference. On the other hand, Simone Biles would have much lower scores under previous codes that rewarded a more equal balance of artistry and strength. It’s all hypothetical of course, but I don’t know that either gymnast would be successful if they trained under magically switched eras.

    What’s certain male gymnasts often borrow from female gymnasts, and vice versa of course. It’s a very equal sport in that sense. There are some incredibly difficult moves that only female gymnasts initially performed successfully, but male gymnasts usually improved upon their difficulty. Simone Biles currently has one or two moves that only she can perform well.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  120. @Joe Magarac
    Any team sport, as long as the women on each team are in the same positions.

    I rather fancy the idea of partially integrating the NFL by having all women quarterbacks.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Women quarterbacks? Instead of “Omaha Hut One! Omaha Hut One!” at the line of scrimmage, the QB would be calling out, “We need to talk … Are you listening to me?”

    I am seriously impressed with some fast-pitch college softball hurlers — the NCAA tourney is a good show. They’re usually pretty chunky, rather than the typical modern pro baseball pitcher who is tall, all arms and legs.

  121. @Bragadocious
    I always thought one thing where men should have no advantage is chipping and putting in golf. But you watch the men's and women's tours for a few hours and you quickly realize how wide the talent gap is even in delicate hand-eye challenges.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    Chipping and putting is enhanced by being a good driver and having good approach shots. If you are chipping too much that means you are not sticking the green unless you are on a par five. Easier said than done, this is why the ladies play on shorter courses. In miniature golf I would say it is a draw.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Prof. Woland

    Actually the opposite is true. The more greens you miss the better your short game has to be to save par. Think Seve -- terrible, wild driver but a genius with a sand wedge. (This rule only applies to scratch golfers or better)

  122. @Inselaffen
    it's not quite 'men' but I always found it interesting that some women can compete successfully with boys/teens in wrestling up til about when puberty kicks in in. There have been some state placers, state champs even; some women have winning records vs men in high school (olympic medallists Sara McMann and Helen Maroulis both did, the latter a pretty good record against them too). Nobody would deny that's an athletically tough sport; on the other hand, in team sports top women's national teams are notorious for losing to teams of schoolboys.

    Replies: @prosa123

    If I’m not mistaken, high school girl wrestlers do best against boys in the lightest weight classes, especially 106 and 113 pounds. It could be that boys who weigh that little aren’t fully into puberty, but it’s more likely that the boys have to weight cut like crazy to meet those limits and are physically weakened as a result. In contrast, there are a lot more girls whose natural weights are at those levels and they can compete at full strength.

    • Replies: @68W58
    @prosa123

    There was a girl who won the lowest weight class state title in 1A (smallest school classification) here in NC last year. I think that most of the boys at that weight class are 9th graders who move up as they age, even so they have to cut weight so a girl might have an advantage.

  123. @Achmed E. Newman
    Aren't there any events in gymnastics in which women (girls really) can beat men due to whatever special features? (I'm thinking along lines such as the higher body fat helping them in the long-distance swimming.)

    How about a question about which team sports men and women can at least play together in harmony? I don't mean woman on one team and men on the other, but a mix. Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well. It's not so unbalanced to where it just doesn't work out.

    Lastly, regarding that Populaire flic. I'm not sure you should trust it, Steve, just because the trailer shows the woman hunt-and-peck typing vs. touch typing. Can someone really win like that? Well, it's French and romantic, so ...

    Replies: @reactionry, @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherGuessModel, @AnotherGuessModel, @ScarletNumber

    I forgot to mention that rhythmic gymnastics was developed from ballet specifically with women’s bodies in mind, and has many key moves that men’s physiques objectively prevent them from doing as well as women. Men don’t compete in RG, but they do participate in exhibitions, and I find it cringey to watch. However, I am curious if people watching without knowledge of RG rules would be able to tell why men are obviously inferior. (There is a different form of rhythmic gymnastics for men that was developed from martial arts, mostly popular in Asia. I don’t know much about it, but it’s really cool to watch.)

  124. @Trinity
    Well you could have a handicap match ala the Billie Jean King vs. Bobby Riggs tennis match in the 1970s. Take a woman in her prime and place her against an aging 50 something year old man long past his prime. I still wonder if Riggs threw the match on purpose. We are talking early 1970s here and the Woman's Lib movement was still big then so Riggs might have been made an offer he couldn't refuse. hehe.

    How about an elite woman fast pitch softball pitcher, pitching against some MLB players who have been retired from baseball for at least 10 years or more. The mound in female's fast pitch is much closer to the plate, and the underhand delivery would surely throw the batter's off. It could be like a George Plimpton deal where he pitched to the MLB all-stars that year. Who knows maybe the female could pitch to current major league players since there is indeed a difference in the pitcher's delivery and distance to the plate.

    Former boxer Ann Wolfe vs. the average man in a boxing match. Ann Wolfe in her prime would have probably beat half the men out there. haha. That is one tough female.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Orville H. Larson

    so Riggs might have been made an offer he couldn’t refuse. hehe.

    It’s been rumored he owed gambling debts to the Mob.

    • Agree: Trinity
  125. @Bill Jones
    I saw somewhere a brief mention that certain specific types of canoeing were favorable to women when the lower center of gravity offset the lesser upper body strength. I wasn't interested enough to follow the link.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Kayaking. Women have more inherent stability than men. A woman also can use a lighter boat which is an advantage. I don’t know if it means they are necessarily faster, though.

    Surprisingly, the sport is still only 45 percent female.

  126. @Calvin Hobbes
    Here’s some scholarly insanity on the subject (both authors tenured professors):


    https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Segregation-Sports-Separate-Equal/dp/1440838100/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Sex+segregation+in+sports&qid=1606663415&sr=8-1#customerReviews

    13 five-star ratings (friends and family of authors?), 2 one-star ratings.

    Replies: @Larry, San Francisco

    $45.00 on Kindle! What a racket

  127. @anonymous as usual
    it does not matter, that is, sports does not matter.

    when Belorussia and Russia were invaded, the women snipers killed lots of enemy.

    so what if 10 years later in East Germany the survivors logged onto the pact internet of the day and nervously talked about the superiority of men in sport

    the fact is that thousands and thousands of their fellow men died in a moment because a woman sniper killed them

    it is not a fair competition, life, is it?

    stop braggings, sheeples, SPORTS are for rich kids and the deluded, you knows it.

    All that matters is doing what you have to do for those you care about, and remember

    be careful who you don't care about

    it could be someone you love.

    then you would feel real dumb that you didn't care

    Replies: @pyrrhus, @millennialdad, @R.G. Camara

    What is it about the Soviet Union that produces such super deadly sniper ladies?

    Strange how other countries never utilized lady sharpshooting in their wars of survival.

    All I know is it can’t be propaganda, only a nazi would think that.

    • Replies: @Carlo
    @millennialdad

    I don't know. In the USSR there were successful women in other areas also, like pilots, and even in something extremely competitve and agressive as fighter pilot. The greatest female ace of all time was Lidya Litvyak: she had between 5 to 12 kills, which is very few compared to male aces like Ivan Kozhedub (highest scoring allied fighter pilot, with over 60 kills), but she also died early in the war, in 1943.

    Replies: @HunInTheSun

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @millennialdad

    Millen, Russia had female combat pilots in WWII, including at least one ace that I can recall. Something in the Russian blood about protecting 'Mother Russia.'

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @anonymous as usual
    @millennialdad

    are you pretending to be ignorant, or are you ignorant?

  128. @Colin Wright
    We could always make emotional manipulation a sport.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Reg Cæsar

    We could always make emotional manipulation a sport.

    Jews vs. Women?

    • LOL: Bill Jones
  129. @anon
    @Anonymous

    All but certain that either Brittany Force is an only child, or she has no brother(s).

    Dad Of Daughter Only has become a pretty obvious thing.

    Replies: @mmack

    John Force has the following daughters:

    Ashley Force
    Brittany Force
    Courtney Force

    • Replies: @Farenheit
    @mmack

    No "Maxine Force"?

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @mmack


    John Force has the following daughters:

    Ashley Force
    Brittany Force
    Courtney Force
     
    Plus Adria, from his first marriage.


    John and Laurie Force Talk Love, Marriage and Racing



    Racing legend John Force is making up for lost time with his family

    If you wanted to compile an alphabetical list of fad names from three decades ago, you could hardly do better than starting with Ashley, Brittany, and Courtney. Whatever the Forces are, they are not original:


    Ashley b. 1982 (It's her birthday!) Rank #17 (1982), #4 (1983); Peak years 1991-2 @ #1
    Brittany b. 1986 Rank #8 Peak years 1989-91 @ #3
    Courtney b. 1988 rank #24 Peak years 1990, 1995 @ #17

    https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/babyname.cgi

    The first Mrs Force had more imagination:


    Adria b. 1969 Rank (1971) #989; Peak year 1975 @ #879
  130. @BB753
    My grandfather used to be a champion typist. He could make his old Olivetti typewriter sound like a machine gun. Me, I can only type with my two index fingers at a slow pace, even after having taken typing classes. I hate typing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    I hate, hate, hate typing.

    I’m still using paleo-cell phone (Nokia) & not smartphone for a few reasons, one of them being I cannot type anything. Google/Duck/Yippy search is a torture; it takes too much time & it’s not doable- at least for me.

    Also, I don’t give a hoot about social networks, nor about Internet via smartphone. And I hate touchscreens.

    This- yes:

    This- no:

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Blackberrys were also a good solution for small fingers. Not my case.

  131. @Jonathan Mason
    In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Colin Wright, @anon

    In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @anon

    Mr. Mason was being tongue in cheek about people who think there is no difference in sports performance between men and women.
    He deliberately left off the second part of the statement, which would be “also in large marathon races the best men beat 100% of female competitors”. He was in fact making the point that statistics can be used to lie because most people have almost no understanding of how basic statistics work.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  132. @bomag
    @Western


    If they can’t compete with men in [bowling], then none.
     
    Bowling skills are strength, accuracy, ball rotation, and harnessing ball characteristics to lane conditions. Male stuff.

    Go down to the local alley and look at the list of 300 games. Probably 90 percent male.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Go down to the local alley and look at the list of 300 games. Probably 90 percent male.

    Not the candlepin lanes. Or the duckpin lanes.

    You’ll have to ask a Texas German what the story is with ninepin.

    “Whereas tenpin alleys were usually found in saloons and other establishments frequented exclusively by men, ninepin alleys were often built by clubs patronized by families.”

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Reg Cæsar

    You'd have a long, long search for people who had 300 games of duckpin bowling, as the highest score ever recorded is a 279. Low duckpin scores are all the more surprising given that you get three rolls per frame.

  133. Leftist men and women seem equally adept at running their mouths and jumping to conclusions, with the women having a slight edge.

  134. @Reg Cæsar
    Women are much better at typing than are men. But in the days of typing contests, the winner was often a man. The secret is in the tail, man.

    https://pennswordtwo.com/media/cache/main_image/custom/domain_1/image_files/sitemgr_photo_8915.jpg


    https://www.investopedia.com/thmb/jSi8L-csjAzo6ltD_JymAsCpdRU=/4334x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/Skewness2-61eca539f5d541f4a2414d99820352fc.png

    Replies: @Marty

    Ron Mingo, world’s fastest typist, was on the same high school baseball team with Bobby Tolan, Willie Crawford, and Bob Watson.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+ron+mingo&docid=607998439897433535&mid=0EEBDCFD7221E7E93E5D0EEBDCFD7221E7E93E5D&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

  135. Competitive typing used to be pretty big…

    But it seems like more guys are into it now in the computer age.

    True, especially around here.

    (Nice little Sailer witticism, BTW.)

  136. @International Jew
    Foosball. You don't need to be strong, you don't need to be tall. You do need a delicate touch.

    The reason women don't already compete at the highest level is that women are less likely to become obsessive about inanimate things.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Buzz Mohawk

    Foosball. You don’t need to be strong, you don’t need to be tall. You do need a delicate touch.

    Are you aware of what you wrote?

    Smh….

    https://yoursoccerhome.com/soccer-is-harder-than-football-4-reasons-why/

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Bardon Kaldian

    He wrote foosball, not football.

    , @International Jew
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Sorry, I should have remembered that this blog is read outside the USA. Also, since Foosball is a corruption (likely Texan) of Fußball, I owe our German readers an apology for cultural appropriation!

    , @guest007
    @Bardon Kaldian

    A sport with no last second situations and no hand-to-eye coordination is not the harder sport. The flopping alone makes soccer look bad along with the no union for players, no salary cap, and the same few teams winning all of the time.

  137. @anonymous
    Tearjerker story. An illegal immigrant teenager arrives on the shores of America and goes on to graduate from West Point. Went into Army Aviation.

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/01/16/15/military-academy-1.jpg

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/haiti-west-point-graduate-photo-crying-tears-us-military-graduate-alix-schoelcher-idrache-academy-a8162151.html

    Replies: @Peterike, @bomag, @Anonymous Jew

    “ Tearjerker story. An illegal immigrant teenager arrives on the shores of America and goes on to graduate from West Point.”

    By “tearjerker” I assume you mean “nauseating,” because that’s what that story is.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Peterike

    West Point seems to scrape the barrel to fill its vacancies.

    I believe Mike Pompeo finished top of his class at West Point, and he is an imbecile.

    Replies: @Corn

  138. @R.G. Camara
    Any sport where victory isn't determined by a distinct, clear metric metric (most runs, most goals, most baskets, fastest time, highest jump) but rather a "holistic" determination based on the whims of the judges involved (artistry, stylishness, form, figure, fitting in with a theme).

    So sports like gymnastics, figure skating, and competitive dancing.

    Also, while they can't compete on the level of men in tennis---remember the Williams sisters getting blown out by the no. 200 male tennis player?----women's tennis used to rival men's tennis in popularity, mainly due to the fact that most female tennis players were very attractive, feminine-looking women in short skirts (Chris Evert, Anna Kournakova, Jennifer Capriati); the few ugly lesbians in there like Martina Narvatalova stood out for being so out of place.

    Then the mannish Williams sisters swept in and suddenly tennis decided that putting women in ugly, non-attractive outfits was ok, and they all started grunting like men and looking like teenage boys and the popularity dropped.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Morton's toes

    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Bardon Kaldian


    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?
     
    It's just that you don't know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You'd be surprised.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Colin Wright, @Mike Tre, @AKAHorace

  139. There are these dancing kinds of sports, forms of competitive, athletic dancing, that were invented for women: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythmic_gymnastics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronized_swimming

    It helps that male athletes are usually banned from competing in these.

  140. @Diversity Heretic
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Mixed doubles in tennis? But what will happen when a trans-woman wants to be the female component of a mixed doubles team?

    Replies: @znon

    Get another one for the other team?

  141. @Anonymous
    NHRA (National Hot Rod Association) Drag Racing. Brittany Force (daughter of NHRA legend John Force) won the Top Fuel Championship in 2017. Shirley Muldowney also won it in 1982. In other racing (e.g., IndyCar or NASCAR) women haven’t faired as well.


    http://a2.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/MOTORS/images/2016/03/30/033016_motor_nhra_preview.JPG
    Brittany Force

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/32/8e/31/328e31b8d25f88c06b1839f01d8b023f.jpg
    Shirley Muldowney

     

    Replies: @dfordoom, @James Braxton, @anon, @Currahee, @J1234

    She resented being called “Cha-Cha”, but I thought that was a cool name. The movie “Heart Like a Wheel” was ok.

  142. Competitive broom flying.

    Though Harry Potter seemed to be in an elite category.

  143. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    I pretty thoroughly debunked them in 1997. I showed that the narrowing of the gap in 1980s Olympics was due to artificial male hormones having a bigger impact on women. When steroid testing got tougher after 1988, the gap got larger.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @vhrm

    Unsustainable trends are, well, unsustainable.

  144. I pretty thoroughly debunked them in 1997. I showed that the narrowing of the gap in 1980s Olympics was due to artificial male hormones having a bigger impact on women. When steroid testing got tougher after 1988, the gap got larger.

    Unsustainable trends are, well, unsustainable. Projecting trends beyond the existing data should be done with extreme care.

    Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves to be on the losing end of a substantial bet.

  145. @Colin Wright
    @Peter Akuleyev

    'There is a great anecdote in Svetlana Alexievich’s interviews with female Soviet war veterans (War’s Unwomanly Face). One woman recounts how she was a on a troop train traveling back to the USSR from Berlin in late May 1945 with a group of other happy victorious female snipers, most of whom had been fighting and killing for the previous three years. All of a sudden one of the girls spots a mouse crawling around the floor of the car, and all these battle-hardened young women scramble shrieking up onto their bunks. Women will be women.'

    I'll call bullshit on that one. Think about where these women supposedly had been living for the previous three years. There were no vermin in all those dugouts, half-destroyed barns, etc?

    The anecdote tells us more about the time and place in which it was dreamed up than about Soviet snipers in 1945.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    The point of the woman telling the story was that as soon as the war ended the girls wanted to be girls again and shed their warrior selves. They probably weren’t literally terrified by the mouse, they were mutually reinforcing each other’s femininity.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Peter Akuleyev

    'The point of the woman telling the story was that as soon as the war ended the girls wanted to be girls again and shed their warrior selves. They probably weren’t literally terrified by the mouse, they were mutually reinforcing each other’s femininity.'

    Possibly. The anecdote still strikes me as invented.

  146. @Reg Cæsar
    @bomag


    Go down to the local alley and look at the list of 300 games. Probably 90 percent male.

     

    Not the candlepin lanes. Or the duckpin lanes.

    You'll have to ask a Texas German what the story is with ninepin.

    "Whereas tenpin alleys were usually found in saloons and other establishments frequented exclusively by men, ninepin alleys were often built by clubs patronized by families."

    Replies: @prosa123

    You’d have a long, long search for people who had 300 games of duckpin bowling, as the highest score ever recorded is a 279. Low duckpin scores are all the more surprising given that you get three rolls per frame.

  147. @International Jew
    Foosball. You don't need to be strong, you don't need to be tall. You do need a delicate touch.

    The reason women don't already compete at the highest level is that women are less likely to become obsessive about inanimate things.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Buzz Mohawk

    I worked with a woman who competed in air hockey tournaments. (Who the hell does that?) We were both writers. When our office had an informal proof-reading contest, she beat me for first place by one error, and thus won the giant jar of jelly beans. That hurt.

  148. – Distance swimming

    – Table tenis.

    – Power walking

    There is also another “sport” where women consistently outdo men: survival. Women live on average 7-8 years more than men, suffer from less infections, have less both congenital as well as acquired chronic diseases. The majority of centenarians are women, and almost all super-centenarians are female. Men’s greater upper body strength and endurance comes at the cost of decreased immune function, decreased cellular autophagy(and higher accumulation of misfolded proteins), decreased DNA repair and faster exhaustion of stem cells.

    Tall men are the shortest-lived humans, while short females are the longest-lived on average.

    • Thanks: Alden
    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    There is also another “sport” where women consistently outdo men: survival.
     
    Indeed. The premise of this whole conversation is that men are superior and women are equal only insofar as we measure up by men's standards. It's kind of circular, really.

    Replies: @Dave Archer, @Rockford Tyson

    , @Mike Tre
    @Rockford Tyson

    Yes women can barter access to their vagina in exchange for a whole list of advantages, further life being one of them.

    Women also don’t go off to fight and die in wars , and don’t participate in the most dangerous jobs our civilized world depends on. (Recent social lunacy excluded) So yeah, they live longer.

    , @anon
    @Rockford Tyson

    Actually the life span difference at birth is five years, not 7-8. For those who make it to 70 or so, the difference is only about two years. Been looking at stats lately for various reasons. The male life span has actually improved in recent years, probably because of less smoking. More women smoke, at least in certain socio-economic levels. Alcohol is also a factor. The main factor among Russian males.

  149. @Prof. Woland
    @Bragadocious

    Chipping and putting is enhanced by being a good driver and having good approach shots. If you are chipping too much that means you are not sticking the green unless you are on a par five. Easier said than done, this is why the ladies play on shorter courses. In miniature golf I would say it is a draw.

    Replies: @Bragadocious

    Actually the opposite is true. The more greens you miss the better your short game has to be to save par. Think Seve — terrible, wild driver but a genius with a sand wedge. (This rule only applies to scratch golfers or better)

  150. @Bardon Kaldian
    @International Jew


    Foosball. You don’t need to be strong, you don’t need to be tall. You do need a delicate touch.
     
    Are you aware of what you wrote?

    Smh....

    https://yoursoccerhome.com/soccer-is-harder-than-football-4-reasons-why/

    Replies: @prosa123, @International Jew, @guest007

    He wrote foosball, not football.

  151. @anonymous
    Tearjerker story. An illegal immigrant teenager arrives on the shores of America and goes on to graduate from West Point. Went into Army Aviation.

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/01/16/15/military-academy-1.jpg

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/haiti-west-point-graduate-photo-crying-tears-us-military-graduate-alix-schoelcher-idrache-academy-a8162151.html

    Replies: @Peterike, @bomag, @Anonymous Jew

    From 2016; he was 25. Several stories about him in the meantime.

    Haitians are notoriously low achieving, but he seems capable enough. One thought is that he should be in Haiti helping them, but then we wouldn’t have the looped story of a Haitian done good to feed the Narrative, so maybe that was a good use of his talents.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @bomag

    He is a Black Hawk pilot now. I hope he makes 4-star general.

  152. @Voltarde
    You're asking the wrong question, but very close to asking the right one!

    Given dysgenic declining birth rates in virtually all economically developed countries, a better question from an HBD perspective is: Which sport is the best dating sport?

    The best dating sport is badminton.

    1) Simple: Low-cost equipment and no-fuss rules.
    2) Satisfying: Easy to reach a skill level that's enjoyable (like love itself).
    3) Durable: Lifelong sport (like ideal love).
    4) Equitable: Enjoyable by average-build non-athletes (e.g., nerds).
    5) Artistic: Can be graceful and often dramatic.
    6) Intelligent: Clever girl can teach unsuspecting guy some well-needed humility.
    7) Strategic: High success rate when asking a girl for a first date.
    8) Insightful: Revealing about your date's personality (and other attributes).

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Anonymous

    I’d say bowling too. You’re really competing against yourself since you’re always looking for that higher average or perfect game, so nobody’s getting irritated at who gets a higher score. Plenty of talking time with ambient noise to drown out any awkward moments. Drinks served if you want them. Active and not passive (like a movie or show). No dressing to impress; you get to be yourself.

    Hey voltarde, we should set up a real life dating service. No more of this crappy electronic stuff!

  153. @anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/517lvSTXy4L._SL350_.jpg

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Mr. Mason was being tongue in cheek about people who think there is no difference in sports performance between men and women.
    He deliberately left off the second part of the statement, which would be “also in large marathon races the best men beat 100% of female competitors”. He was in fact making the point that statistics can be used to lie because most people have almost no understanding of how basic statistics work.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Alfa158

    You are partly right. In large marathon races there are actually only a small number of people competing in the race, followed by thousands of recreational runners who pay to participate, but are not trying to win the race--only to beat their own personal best or just to complete the course.

    So therefore the elite female runners will easily beat all the male recreational runners.

    Replies: @Alfa158

  154. @Chrisnonymous
    @Abolish_public_education

    Speaking of figure skating...

    How long until we have a skating pair with a transgender teammate?

    (A long time, I bet, because transgenders can't possibly be as easy to lift. Same for ballet--I bet it will be a long time before we get a prima ballerina with a crotch bulge in its leotard.)

    Replies: @Nico, @Anon

    I bet it will be a long time before we get a prima ballerina with a crotch bulge in its leotard.

    It will probably happen sooner than you think, and however awful s/h/it looks the whole apparatus of “People” presstitutes will sell the act as “beautiful.”

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  155. @R.G. Camara
    Any sport where victory isn't determined by a distinct, clear metric metric (most runs, most goals, most baskets, fastest time, highest jump) but rather a "holistic" determination based on the whims of the judges involved (artistry, stylishness, form, figure, fitting in with a theme).

    So sports like gymnastics, figure skating, and competitive dancing.

    Also, while they can't compete on the level of men in tennis---remember the Williams sisters getting blown out by the no. 200 male tennis player?----women's tennis used to rival men's tennis in popularity, mainly due to the fact that most female tennis players were very attractive, feminine-looking women in short skirts (Chris Evert, Anna Kournakova, Jennifer Capriati); the few ugly lesbians in there like Martina Narvatalova stood out for being so out of place.

    Then the mannish Williams sisters swept in and suddenly tennis decided that putting women in ugly, non-attractive outfits was ok, and they all started grunting like men and looking like teenage boys and the popularity dropped.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Morton's toes

    I never ceased to be amazed that Maria Sharapova’s coaches and agents haven’t convinced her that she would get 10X the endorsement cash if she would ditch the hideous grunting and screaming. It’s like 1000 $ bills laying all over the sidewalk to be picked up.

  156. @millennialdad
    @anonymous as usual

    What is it about the Soviet Union that produces such super deadly sniper ladies?

    Strange how other countries never utilized lady sharpshooting in their wars of survival.

    All I know is it can't be propaganda, only a nazi would think that.

    Replies: @Carlo, @Buffalo Joe, @anonymous as usual

    I don’t know. In the USSR there were successful women in other areas also, like pilots, and even in something extremely competitve and agressive as fighter pilot. The greatest female ace of all time was Lidya Litvyak: she had between 5 to 12 kills, which is very few compared to male aces like Ivan Kozhedub (highest scoring allied fighter pilot, with over 60 kills), but she also died early in the war, in 1943.

    • Replies: @HunInTheSun
    @Carlo

    No "Ivan Kozhedub" downed 60 Axis warplanes, maybe 6, Soviet kill tallies are propaganda fabrications including those of their lady jocks, Soviet combat aviation in WW2 was a suicide mission, the Luftwaffe could achieve air superiority over any battlefield (fuel supplies permitting) right to the end of the war except where the front moved far enough north and west to bring U.S. and U.K. fighters into range.

  157. @AndrewR
    Chicago Bears VP wants his daughter to play in the NFL. Vile.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FaberBrandon/status/1332771727907106820

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ben tillman, @Mike Tre

    Andrew, no he does’t. He is just signaling that he is woke.

  158. @millennialdad
    @anonymous as usual

    What is it about the Soviet Union that produces such super deadly sniper ladies?

    Strange how other countries never utilized lady sharpshooting in their wars of survival.

    All I know is it can't be propaganda, only a nazi would think that.

    Replies: @Carlo, @Buffalo Joe, @anonymous as usual

    Millen, Russia had female combat pilots in WWII, including at least one ace that I can recall. Something in the Russian blood about protecting ‘Mother Russia.’

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Buffalo Joe

    'Millen, Russia had female combat pilots in WWII, including at least one ace that I can recall. Something in the Russian blood about protecting ‘Mother Russia.’'

    Something in the surreal level of losses requiring that any remaining warm body be put to good use.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  159. @dumrunner
    ultrarunning
    https://ultrasignup.com/results_event.aspx?did=62021
    https://ultrasignup.com/results_event.aspx?did=72701

    Replies: @LadyTheo

    I was getting ready to throw in ultra running. Especially as the ultra gets more ultra. The Moab 240 record (yes, that is 240 miles) is held by a woman. (I see you linked to that.)

    Now, there isn’t a woman who can compete with Scott Jurek. But the really good women are much closer to the really good men (and sometimes win) than in other sports, it seems to me. Anne Trayson held her own with the men.

    Heck, I am almost 60, and I routinely beat much, much younger men in ultra races.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @LadyTheo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27FfrD5ZzI

    Replies: @LadyTheo

  160. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Colin Wright

    The point of the woman telling the story was that as soon as the war ended the girls wanted to be girls again and shed their warrior selves. They probably weren’t literally terrified by the mouse, they were mutually reinforcing each other’s femininity.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘The point of the woman telling the story was that as soon as the war ended the girls wanted to be girls again and shed their warrior selves. They probably weren’t literally terrified by the mouse, they were mutually reinforcing each other’s femininity.’

    Possibly. The anecdote still strikes me as invented.

  161. @Buffalo Joe
    @millennialdad

    Millen, Russia had female combat pilots in WWII, including at least one ace that I can recall. Something in the Russian blood about protecting 'Mother Russia.'

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Millen, Russia had female combat pilots in WWII, including at least one ace that I can recall. Something in the Russian blood about protecting ‘Mother Russia.’’

    Something in the surreal level of losses requiring that any remaining warm body be put to good use.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Colin Wright

    Colin, thank you for the reply, but the Japanese basically ran out of pilots and never, to my knowledge, trained women as replacements.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  162. Decathlon. Caitlyn Jenner won gold in 1976.

  163. Isn’t playing a musical instrument a sport?

    At the beginning, when you first learn, it’s all about IQ.

    Then after awhile, it’s a physical sport.

    Then when you mastered the physical, it becomes a passion.

  164. Well, the whole thing’s a bit silly.

    Compared to most animals, humans are grossly handicapped by that huge head. I mean, you’re dragging around a twenty pound ball and chain or something. It’s no joke. Any primate can out-anything you.

    So that’s us, men and women. Hopeless. D+ on a good day.

    Now add in the biological modifications necessary to bear those huge-headed babies.

    Those wide hips — well, that takes women down a notch further. But it’s not that men are better so much as that women are even worse. They don’t just have the huge head — they’ve got another handicap.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Colin Wright

    It's more basic than that.
    Women are evolved, or created, take your pick, to do the single most important thing of any species, the bearing and nurturing of the next generation. Three billion years of success so far. Men are there to do all the other things necessary to make that successful. Two very different roles and competencies.

  165. @anonymous
    You should comment on Trump's election tweets.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332552283553476608

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @vinny, @Anon, @Father O'Hara, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    He’s a pathetic loser and delusional, who has proved nothing where it counts (in court), and needs to drop this subject.

    • Replies: @Franz Liszt von Raiding
    @Anon

    Right so the four time loser who can’t fill a room and succeeds only by corruption (and brags about it) BEAT the wildly popular, effective, INCUMBENT who filled to overflow capacity multiple stadiums daily for a month heading into Election Day. Right-ee-oh-ho!!

    Replies: @anonymous

  166. @lavoisier
    There is considerable overlap between the abilities of men and women in various sports.

    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population. I am surprised that so many men think they can compete with elite women athletes. Almost none can.

    So elite men vs elite women competitions the men are clearly dominant, but very few men are elite athletes and would lose quickly in whatever sport one wants to consider competing against the elite woman athlete.

    Replies: @Peterike, @Marty, @Unzerker, @TWS

    “ Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population”

    Uh huh.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/amp/

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Peterike


    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population”

    Uh huh.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/amp/
     
    I'm not sure your link is to the point. I clicked on it and those look like some pretty huge under-15 "boys."

    In any event, why was this particular team chosen? Were they just chosen at random or are they an outstanding team? If so, they are not really "non-elite."

    Replies: @Unzerker, @TWS

  167. U.S women’s soccer team wore BLM shirts and jackets to a game in the Netherlands Friday. They issued a long diatribe against American racial injustice and police brutality. F’em

    • Agree: bomag, duncsbaby
  168. @F. Galton
    As far as viewing goes, figure skating, gymnastics, and volleyball are much more compelling on the female side than the male side. But maybe that's just a hetero male bias of mine. Hmmm.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Mens indoor volleyball is much better as a viewer. Womens beach volleyball is the best viewing event of any Olympic event, for obvious reasons.

  169. @JimDandy
    @Yancey Ward

    Why is the gender-gap narrowed in that particular sport?

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    Body composition. Fat layering. Women float better, and probably retain core body temperature better.

  170. @obwandiyag
    “If you’re looking at the average times — the average woman is faster than the average man,” said Munatones, who is the founder of the World Open Water Swimming Association. “Which, frankly, I was surprised to see.”

    https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/the-obscure-endurance-sport-women-are-quietly-dominating.html

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    They’re more buoyant.

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @Ben tillman

    And also stay a bit warmer, because of the higher fat to muscle ratio.

  171. @Alfa158
    @anon

    Mr. Mason was being tongue in cheek about people who think there is no difference in sports performance between men and women.
    He deliberately left off the second part of the statement, which would be “also in large marathon races the best men beat 100% of female competitors”. He was in fact making the point that statistics can be used to lie because most people have almost no understanding of how basic statistics work.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    You are partly right. In large marathon races there are actually only a small number of people competing in the race, followed by thousands of recreational runners who pay to participate, but are not trying to win the race–only to beat their own personal best or just to complete the course.

    So therefore the elite female runners will easily beat all the male recreational runners.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Jonathan Mason

    Agreed. But the elite female runners will never beat the elite male runners. In the last NYC marathon, the highest finishing woman was in 31st place, 14 minutes behind the winner, or 11% slower. I have had to explain to people how statistical distributions work, particularly at the tail ends. They’ll see that many women do quite well against many men and assume that means the remaining gap is minor can be closed in any sport when actually it won’t be at the very upper end where medals are being handed out.

    Replies: @ATate

  172. There is no separate male and female competitions in registered American skeet shooting (NSSA). They have a “lady” division that is run as a concurrent contest, along with divisions like veterans and juniors, but in the overall competition, women compete directly against men in the individual classes and often win. It’s 100% merit. The only reason men win more often is because there are usually many more men entered.

  173. @Trinity
    Babe Didrikson did pitch to male batters in a few MLB spring training games. The question is whether Didrikson was a better all around athlete than Jim Thorpe, taking in consideration that Didrikson is a female of course. Didrikson, like Thorpe, would definitely make the top 10 of any list of best all around athletes, can't imagine an argument against that one at all. But at 126-130lbs, Babe wasn't about to compete on a level field against any top male athlete at any game.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    • Thanks: Trinity
  174. @Peterike
    @anonymous

    “ Tearjerker story. An illegal immigrant teenager arrives on the shores of America and goes on to graduate from West Point.”

    By “tearjerker” I assume you mean “nauseating,” because that’s what that story is.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    West Point seems to scrape the barrel to fill its vacancies.

    I believe Mike Pompeo finished top of his class at West Point, and he is an imbecile.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Jonathan Mason

    Even more disturbingly it seems that West Point is as woke as many civilian universities.

  175. Interestingly, the only sport in which white women can compete with white men, distance swimming, is a sport in which blacks or either sex cannot compete.

  176. @Colin Wright
    I wonder if women do as well as men in downhill skiing events?

    I'll guess not -- simply because women tend to be less competitive.

    Replies: @Q-ship, @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    Absolutely not. Strength, explosiveness, agility, and coordination are of paramount importance in alpine ski racing. The gap between elite men and women is at least as great as the gap in sprinting.

    Several years ago, I remember watching a skills competition where a prime Bode Miller dusted a field that included several NFL and NBA players. Elite alpine ski racers are some of the world’s best athletes.

  177. Anon[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    @Abolish_public_education

    Speaking of figure skating...

    How long until we have a skating pair with a transgender teammate?

    (A long time, I bet, because transgenders can't possibly be as easy to lift. Same for ballet--I bet it will be a long time before we get a prima ballerina with a crotch bulge in its leotard.)

    Replies: @Nico, @Anon

    How long until we have a skating pair with a transgender teammate?

    (A long time, I bet, because transgenders can’t possibly be as easy to lift.

    Watching the NHK Cup the last couple of days with my wife I noticed that Daisuke Takahashi has rebranded as a pairs skater. But since he’s not that big, he and his partner are about the same size. He does seem to be struggling with her.

    I noticed that one of the “Japanese” skaters in the competition was a big male American with a petite Japaense partner. And I know of at least one Japanese woman who took Russian citizenship to skate with a big Russian partner. The males from bigger nationalities are taking small Asian partners, and the Asian males are kind of screwed.

    The male really needs to be able to easily pick up and throw the woman around in pairs. And what is it about women that they seem to be able to trust themselves to men that way, the same way they will ride pillion on a motorcycle with no apparent worries? I took some motorcycle training at a Honda facility years ago where the instructors would flag you down and put you on pillion while they demonstrated something that you were doing wrong, and these guys were expert riders, yet still I was scared to death. My girlfriend, however was totally blasé about riding pillion with me as far as I could tell.

    Back to skating: We attended a couple of days of one of the ISU competitions in Tokyo years ago, and there was a horrific accident with a Canadian pairs couple during the exhibition. The guy was twirling his partner around and then she fell to the ice and had to be taken to the hospital, so pairs is definitely risky for the woman especially.

    • Replies: @HFR
    @Anon

    Actually, Daisuke Takahashi is "rebranding" as an ice dancer, not a pairs skater. His size is not that unusual among ice dancers (Scott Moir, Charlie White, and others). In pairs skating, size difference helps (but doesn't seem to matter for Sui/Han). As for female pairs skaters, they are missing the fear chip. The fact that an element of pairs skating is called the death spiral says it all. Many female pairs skaters have had their scalps or cheeks slashed by their partner's blade. They get stitched up and just get back up on the horse, as it were.

    Replies: @Anon, @cliff arroyo

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    The male really needs to be able to easily pick up and throw the woman around in pairs.
     
    The men essentially serve as furniture in that event.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. Who wants to watch men skate?

  178. @Bill Jones
    I saw somewhere a brief mention that certain specific types of canoeing were favorable to women when the lower center of gravity offset the lesser upper body strength. I wasn't interested enough to follow the link.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @The Last Real Calvinist

    I can attest to the likelihood of this from bitter personal experience.

    I studied in the UK for my junior year of college, and took an outdoors sports class as part of the deal. It involved a lot of kayaking, both in the sea and in rivers. I’m very tall, and at that age was underweight. I therefore had terrible weight distribution in a kayak, at least in terms of keeping it upright. I tipped my topheavy self over into the icy waters, both fresh and salt, on multiple occasions.

    Meanwhile, several of the girls in my class who were, shall we say, visibly unathletic, never the less were as stable as corks in their kayaks because their capacious backsides provided excellent ballast, and since their upper bodies were comparatively light.

    • LOL: Trelane
  179. What about coaching? Are women equal to men in coaching quality?

  180. @LadyTheo
    @dumrunner

    I was getting ready to throw in ultra running. Especially as the ultra gets more ultra. The Moab 240 record (yes, that is 240 miles) is held by a woman. (I see you linked to that.)

    Now, there isn't a woman who can compete with Scott Jurek. But the really good women are much closer to the really good men (and sometimes win) than in other sports, it seems to me. Anne Trayson held her own with the men.

    Heck, I am almost 60, and I routinely beat much, much younger men in ultra races.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    • Replies: @LadyTheo
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Julia "Hurricane" Hawkins. I love it.

  181. Roller derby, academic cancel culture, me tooism. A male has no way to win these sports.

  182. @Elli
    @Andy

    A relative was a master chess player, and his belief was that women didn't make the very top levels because tournaments were so physically draining.

    Not to mention competitiveness, interest/obsession, and right tails on the analytical bell curve.

    But the man on the ground thought it was stamina.

    Replies: @CAL2, @keypusher, @Nachum

    I’m at the patzer level in tournaments and even there it is draining. So, that is one thing. I think the rest of your items also play a significant part. There simply isn’t a large pool of females that can play chess at the highest levels. That pool gets a lot smaller when you find that number that want to play at that level.

  183. @Mike Tre
    Equestrian events and vehicle racing events are competitions where a woman's smaller frame is a benefit to power / weight ratio.

    Smaller, more buoyant women seemingly have an advantage in open water swimming because they have less mass to move through the water and don't have to expend as much energy merely staying afloat.

    Replies: @Mark Roulo

    “Equestrian events and vehicle racing events are competitions where a woman’s smaller frame is a benefit to power / weight ratio. ”

    Which is why most jockeys are female 🙂

    I think that small male jockeys have a better power/weight ratio than women.

  184. @mmack
    @anon

    John Force has the following daughters:

    Ashley Force
    Brittany Force
    Courtney Force

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Reg Cæsar

    No “Maxine Force”?

  185. @Anon
    @anonymous

    Agree. Indeed, a very important election and post-election. And all we get of Sailer’s journalism is bitchy comments about women’s lack of athletic superiority.

    Replies: @scrivener3, @Currahee

    Its not a politics blog. It is more an eclectic blog.

    To influence the outcome of the “election” will take more than inside baseball. It is a public relations war. Right now the “there is no evidence” mantra is winning.

  186. @Colin Wright
    I wonder if women do as well as men in downhill skiing events?

    I'll guess not -- simply because women tend to be less competitive.

    Replies: @Q-ship, @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    Not at all, and it’s not even close. I visited the Park City courses for women’s and men’s super g, and it’s not even close. The pitch of the women’s super g is equal to the pitch of the men’s slalom. (Ie the fastest women’s even is taking place on a similar pitch as the slowest, most technical men’s event)

  187. @Anon
    @Chrisnonymous


    How long until we have a skating pair with a transgender teammate?

    (A long time, I bet, because transgenders can’t possibly be as easy to lift.
     
    Watching the NHK Cup the last couple of days with my wife I noticed that Daisuke Takahashi has rebranded as a pairs skater. But since he's not that big, he and his partner are about the same size. He does seem to be struggling with her.

    I noticed that one of the "Japanese" skaters in the competition was a big male American with a petite Japaense partner. And I know of at least one Japanese woman who took Russian citizenship to skate with a big Russian partner. The males from bigger nationalities are taking small Asian partners, and the Asian males are kind of screwed.

    The male really needs to be able to easily pick up and throw the woman around in pairs. And what is it about women that they seem to be able to trust themselves to men that way, the same way they will ride pillion on a motorcycle with no apparent worries? I took some motorcycle training at a Honda facility years ago where the instructors would flag you down and put you on pillion while they demonstrated something that you were doing wrong, and these guys were expert riders, yet still I was scared to death. My girlfriend, however was totally blasé about riding pillion with me as far as I could tell.

    Back to skating: We attended a couple of days of one of the ISU competitions in Tokyo years ago, and there was a horrific accident with a Canadian pairs couple during the exhibition. The guy was twirling his partner around and then she fell to the ice and had to be taken to the hospital, so pairs is definitely risky for the woman especially.

    Replies: @HFR, @Reg Cæsar

    Actually, Daisuke Takahashi is “rebranding” as an ice dancer, not a pairs skater. His size is not that unusual among ice dancers (Scott Moir, Charlie White, and others). In pairs skating, size difference helps (but doesn’t seem to matter for Sui/Han). As for female pairs skaters, they are missing the fear chip. The fact that an element of pairs skating is called the death spiral says it all. Many female pairs skaters have had their scalps or cheeks slashed by their partner’s blade. They get stitched up and just get back up on the horse, as it were.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @HFR


    Actually, Daisuke Takahashi is “rebranding” as an ice dancer, not a pairs skater.
     
    Ah, that makes sense.

    Takahashi is officially 5'5" and his partner is 5'4". Reading up on dancing vs. pairs, I see that dancers cannot do overhead lifts or throws, so it's more of a ballroom dancing thing and the weight/height difference would be less important.
    , @cliff arroyo
    @HFR

    There's also something called solo ice dance (virtually completely female and created for lower levels where there aren't enough guys).

    In roller skating they've apparently had solo dance for a while (separate mens and womens groups). IIRC in the compulsory stage (where every skater does the exact same steps in the same order) the men are expected to do the lady's pattern (because those are regarded as more difficult).

  188. I read somewhere some idiot former member of the U.S’ National Female Select in soccer say that they could beat the Brazilian national male select “on a good day”. Honey, there isn’t a day good enough since the Big Bang happened until all protons in the Universe decay quadrillions of years from now and time itself ends for you to beat the Brazilian men’s team at soccer.

    Even though Brazil hasn’t had a truly good national select since 1982, relying on only a few superstars, even the dowgraded Brazilian men’s national select would wipe the floors against the U.S female select instantly. We might actually see the first triple-digit goals scored in a single game in Brazil’s favor if that match happened.

    You got crushed by a bunch of middle-school boys. You were beaten by boys averaging 14 years of age, and some as young as 12. You were beaten by *children* . If I had been beaten by a bunch of little boys, I would be so embarrassed I wouldn’t even leave my house. The fact that you DEMAND equal pay with the men’s team after this pathetic display of slowness, lack of reflexes, lack of power and overall physical weakness shows how delusional you are.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
  189. @Steve Sailer
    @AnonySail

    Are women ever part of the crew in America's Cup races?

    Replies: @TheBean, @AnonySail, @ben tillman

    In 1995, the billionaire Bill Koch sponsored an all-woman team for the America’s Cup in San Diego. They “almost” won the Defender’s Cup (called Citizen Cup), eventually losing to Dennis Conner. To be fair, they probably should have won, but they made a tactical mistake at the end of the last race.

    That team even had a female psychologist to soothe out the tensions running high between the women who were real sailors, and the “grunts” who were providing the muscular energy on the boat and had been recruited mostly from female rowers, female weightlifters, etc.

  190. @anonymous
    Tearjerker story. An illegal immigrant teenager arrives on the shores of America and goes on to graduate from West Point. Went into Army Aviation.

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/01/16/15/military-academy-1.jpg

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/haiti-west-point-graduate-photo-crying-tears-us-military-graduate-alix-schoelcher-idrache-academy-a8162151.html

    Replies: @Peterike, @bomag, @Anonymous Jew

    Immigrant propaganda. Literally. Because the law of averages is raycis.

    Re women, didn’t they do really well in ultra-distance running for a while, though it seems it’s all men now. Whenever there’s a Donner Party fiasco the women last longer. Unless the men eat them first.

    There are sports where the feminine physique can complement men or at least be more entertaining. Figure skating and gymnastics come to mind.

  191. @Colin Wright
    @Buffalo Joe

    'Millen, Russia had female combat pilots in WWII, including at least one ace that I can recall. Something in the Russian blood about protecting ‘Mother Russia.’'

    Something in the surreal level of losses requiring that any remaining warm body be put to good use.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Colin, thank you for the reply, but the Japanese basically ran out of pilots and never, to my knowledge, trained women as replacements.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Buffalo Joe

    'Colin, thank you for the reply, but the Japanese basically ran out of pilots and never, to my knowledge, trained women as replacements.'

    However, Japanese losses were never that great in terms of raw manpower. There were always male recruits to be had.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @J.Ross, @Wielgus

  192. @anonymous
    You should comment on Trump's election tweets.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332552283553476608

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @vinny, @Anon, @Father O'Hara, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    If I know the Dear Leader,he has put up this woman stuff to gain time as he researches an ass kicking post about Trump.
    You hear that sh*t about the Delta Force shooting it out with the CIA?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Father O'Hara

    Steve has had 20+ days to talk about Trump's election tweets.

    , @Corn
    @Father O'Hara

    I heard it. I do think the Democrats stole the election (too many coincidences and statistical improbabilities going their way) but Trump’s supporters are losing the PR war with some of the stuff they toss around.

    , @Corvinus
    @Father O'Hara

    "You hear that sh*t about the Delta Force shooting it out with the CIA?"

    I look forward to you proving that this event happened given your credentials.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara

  193. @Trinity
    Well you could have a handicap match ala the Billie Jean King vs. Bobby Riggs tennis match in the 1970s. Take a woman in her prime and place her against an aging 50 something year old man long past his prime. I still wonder if Riggs threw the match on purpose. We are talking early 1970s here and the Woman's Lib movement was still big then so Riggs might have been made an offer he couldn't refuse. hehe.

    How about an elite woman fast pitch softball pitcher, pitching against some MLB players who have been retired from baseball for at least 10 years or more. The mound in female's fast pitch is much closer to the plate, and the underhand delivery would surely throw the batter's off. It could be like a George Plimpton deal where he pitched to the MLB all-stars that year. Who knows maybe the female could pitch to current major league players since there is indeed a difference in the pitcher's delivery and distance to the plate.

    Former boxer Ann Wolfe vs. the average man in a boxing match. Ann Wolfe in her prime would have probably beat half the men out there. haha. That is one tough female.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Orville H. Larson

    “Former boxer Ann Wolfe vs. the average man in a boxing match. Ann Wolfe in her prime would have probably beat half the men out there. haha. That is one tough female.”

    Well, I suppose so, and why not? A well-conditioned, well-trained female boxer would defeat an untrained, out-of-condition male. Of course, put her in with a male boxer, and the situation is reversed. . . .

  194. @Trinity
    Well Stefi Cohen can compete with all but the elite men powerlifters when it comes to the deadlift and squat. She definitely has some very, very respectable numbers for her weight that would match up well against most males, hell, it would defeat most males that weigh between 115-123lbs in those two lifts. Have no idea how much she bench presses but it probably isn't that much, women just don't have the upper body strength of males.

    Replies: @Moral Stone

    True, but Stefi also appears to be on serious steroids, to the point of some vocal masculinization and “roid gut.” Obviously, the male competitors are also juiced to the gills, but gear is probably an equalizer when it’s used in a sport with weight classes. It will allow a woman of a given height to probably pack on muscle at a low body fat in order to fill out one of the lower weight classes.

    An interesting question is, given enough anabolic steroids, is there a big difference between male and female “ceilings” for a given height/frame?

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Moral Stone

    True, but Stefi also appears to be on serious steroids, to the point of some vocal masculinization and “roid gut.”

    Your use of the first name to refer to a female athlete you don't personally know is a sign of idiocy.

  195. @Yancey Ward
    Ultra distance swimming seems to me to be the only truly athletic competition- involving, speed, power, distance- in which women might be able to outdo men, but even then at the very top level of competition, the men are still faster. You basically only find the women winning when the fields of competition aren't elite.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @YetAnotherAnon, @JimDandy, @Prof. Woland, @Russ

    They have more subcutaneous fat which helps them float better.

  196. Women should have contests to see who can produce the most breast milk in 20 minutes, stuff like that. This may seem weird, but it’s probably healthier than contests of who can eat the most hotdogs.

    • LOL: Corn
    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @couch scientist

    I always get a kick out of seeing “Mennonite cheese” on a menu. If goat cheese comes from goats, then . . . .

    Replies: @Don't Look at Me

  197. @Anon
    @anonymous

    He's a pathetic loser and delusional, who has proved nothing where it counts (in court), and needs to drop this subject.

    Replies: @Franz Liszt von Raiding

    Right so the four time loser who can’t fill a room and succeeds only by corruption (and brags about it) BEAT the wildly popular, effective, INCUMBENT who filled to overflow capacity multiple stadiums daily for a month heading into Election Day. Right-ee-oh-ho!!

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Franz Liszt von Raiding

    Venezuela orchestrated the stolen election.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1326926226888544256

  198. @Father O'Hara
    @anonymous

    If I know the Dear Leader,he has put up this woman stuff to gain time as he researches an ass kicking post about Trump.
    You hear that sh*t about the Delta Force shooting it out with the CIA?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Corn, @Corvinus

    Steve has had 20+ days to talk about Trump’s election tweets.

  199. @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    This one is easily debunked.

    PA sent out 3 million mail in ballots for the general election.

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

    The 1.8 million Mastriano is referring to is from the _primary_ election.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz

    Now why would someone want to try to confuse the primary election with the general election?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @Eagle Eye

    If it is as easily debunked as you claim then that in itself deserves a post.

  200. @lavoisier
    There is considerable overlap between the abilities of men and women in various sports.

    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population. I am surprised that so many men think they can compete with elite women athletes. Almost none can.

    So elite men vs elite women competitions the men are clearly dominant, but very few men are elite athletes and would lose quickly in whatever sport one wants to consider competing against the elite woman athlete.

    Replies: @Peterike, @Marty, @Unzerker, @TWS

    Possibly true. I was a non-elite basketball junkie, something of a defensive stopper in mostly black pick-up games. One day in Berkeley, I had to guard a member of a women’s national team, Iceland or Norway, who was a shade under 5’7”. I couldn’t get to her shot, and she burned me all day.

  201. OT, but I think there are about 5 iSteve themes running through this brief tale.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/29/mother-of-slain-florida-teen-shot-at-his-burial/

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @black sea

    And all of those themes are packed into so few words -- it's a short article.

    There are at least three captured just in the following partial sentence:


    Quasheda Pierce, 39, was hit when a shot rang out
     

    Replies: @black sea

  202. @Bardon Kaldian
    @R.G. Camara

    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?

    Replies: @Rosie

    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?

    It’s just that you don’t know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You’d be surprised.

    • Agree: AKAHorace
    • LOL: Trelane
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Rosie

    Touché! 👌

    , @Colin Wright
    @Rosie

    'It’s just that you don’t know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You’d be surprised.'

    's true. There was an interval in my moving career where I speculated that I could have billed myself as 'mover to North Oakland's Lesbian Community' -- I suspect because I simply didn't get all worked up about how they were lesbians. I mean, I realized it -- I just didn't care.

    Anyway, I recall one day that involved stuff being shuffled about between several successive lesbian households, like four or five. The thing was, as the day wore on, the lesbians kept getting more obvious. I mean, we started out with the rather antiseptically attractive type, and headed south from there. By the afternoon, we were dealing with your basic 200 lb diesel. Pleasant enough -- but decidedly unambiguous.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    My sister in law is a lesbian and has an extensive network within the the sisterhood in Chicago. I’m not sure what you’re seeing, but based on my experience, not a one of them is physically attractive by any measure.

    , @AKAHorace
    @Rosie


    It’s just that you don’t know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You’d be surprised.
     
    A lot of good looking women swing both ways.

    Replies: @Rosie

  203. @Rockford Tyson
    - Distance swimming

    - Table tenis.

    - Power walking

    There is also another "sport" where women consistently outdo men: survival. Women live on average 7-8 years more than men, suffer from less infections, have less both congenital as well as acquired chronic diseases. The majority of centenarians are women, and almost all super-centenarians are female. Men's greater upper body strength and endurance comes at the cost of decreased immune function, decreased cellular autophagy(and higher accumulation of misfolded proteins), decreased DNA repair and faster exhaustion of stem cells.

    Tall men are the shortest-lived humans, while short females are the longest-lived on average.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Mike Tre, @anon

    There is also another “sport” where women consistently outdo men: survival.

    Indeed. The premise of this whole conversation is that men are superior and women are equal only insofar as we measure up by men’s standards. It’s kind of circular, really.

    • Replies: @Dave Archer
    @Rosie

    The premise is that men are better than women in sports.If that weren't true there would be no need for gender segregated competition to begin with.In life itself women are,by any objective standard,better off than men.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    But physically and intellectually, men ARE superior ans the margin is significant. Both as jocks and as nerds, men are better. I made that commentary to point out that rhere is an area where women are physically better. Since sports are physical, I thought it was relevant.

    Replies: @Rosie

  204. @Steve Sailer
    @AnonySail

    Are women ever part of the crew in America's Cup races?

    Replies: @TheBean, @AnonySail, @ben tillman

    I seem to recall Lisa Blackaller telling me she was part of her dad’s crew in 1983 and 1986, but that was a long time ago.

  205. @Rosie
    @Bardon Kaldian


    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?
     
    It's just that you don't know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You'd be surprised.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Colin Wright, @Mike Tre, @AKAHorace

    Touché! 👌

  206. @Buffalo Joe
    @Colin Wright

    Colin, thank you for the reply, but the Japanese basically ran out of pilots and never, to my knowledge, trained women as replacements.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Colin, thank you for the reply, but the Japanese basically ran out of pilots and never, to my knowledge, trained women as replacements.’

    However, Japanese losses were never that great in terms of raw manpower. There were always male recruits to be had.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Colin Wright

    Colin, we could go back and forth all day on this, but it is consensus that Japan ran out of pilots. Training to be a combat pilot is extensive and dangerous. The US lost 20,000 plus WWII recruits killed in stateside flight training. Japan's navy needed carrier pilots, requiring the most rigorous skills and training. That's why they went with Kamikaze pilots, no need to learn to return and land on a carrier. Stay safe.

    Replies: @vhrm

    , @J.Ross
    @Colin Wright

    That's okay reasoning for infantry but not for a fighter pilot. Also, they were running out of everything else, and completely outclassed by Yank innovation.

    , @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry. However, in WW2 infantry were sometimes given as little as a couple of weeks' training before being sent into the line. A WW2 pilot needed about two years of training, and though the Japanese and Germans cut corners they found it a lot harder to replace aircrew casualties than infantry ones.
    Even the Japanese started to scrape the barrel for infantry as they war went on. For example, the army favoured infantry recruits from rural backgrounds. They were considered to be sturdy and obedient. But as the war went on they were forced to use more urban recruits, who were less sturdy, more questioning of orders or the war and (marginally) more likely to surrender than rural recruits. The Japanese even started to use more Koreans as fighting soldiers, where previously they were only used as labourers or for low-prestige tasks like guarding POWs.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright

  207. @Anon
    @Chrisnonymous


    How long until we have a skating pair with a transgender teammate?

    (A long time, I bet, because transgenders can’t possibly be as easy to lift.
     
    Watching the NHK Cup the last couple of days with my wife I noticed that Daisuke Takahashi has rebranded as a pairs skater. But since he's not that big, he and his partner are about the same size. He does seem to be struggling with her.

    I noticed that one of the "Japanese" skaters in the competition was a big male American with a petite Japaense partner. And I know of at least one Japanese woman who took Russian citizenship to skate with a big Russian partner. The males from bigger nationalities are taking small Asian partners, and the Asian males are kind of screwed.

    The male really needs to be able to easily pick up and throw the woman around in pairs. And what is it about women that they seem to be able to trust themselves to men that way, the same way they will ride pillion on a motorcycle with no apparent worries? I took some motorcycle training at a Honda facility years ago where the instructors would flag you down and put you on pillion while they demonstrated something that you were doing wrong, and these guys were expert riders, yet still I was scared to death. My girlfriend, however was totally blasé about riding pillion with me as far as I could tell.

    Back to skating: We attended a couple of days of one of the ISU competitions in Tokyo years ago, and there was a horrific accident with a Canadian pairs couple during the exhibition. The guy was twirling his partner around and then she fell to the ice and had to be taken to the hospital, so pairs is definitely risky for the woman especially.

    Replies: @HFR, @Reg Cæsar

    The male really needs to be able to easily pick up and throw the woman around in pairs.

    The men essentially serve as furniture in that event.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Who wants to watch men skate?

  208. Steve,
    OK with the sports; but what do you and some of your braino pals make of this election challenge controversy?
    Is this totally nutball? Smoke? Fire?
    Search me, have no idea myself. Looking for some expert opinions that I trust.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Currahee

    Watch Scott Adams or Steven Crowder. They have put a lot of time into that issue.

  209. @Rosie
    @Bardon Kaldian


    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?
     
    It's just that you don't know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You'd be surprised.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Colin Wright, @Mike Tre, @AKAHorace

    ‘It’s just that you don’t know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You’d be surprised.’

    ‘s true. There was an interval in my moving career where I speculated that I could have billed myself as ‘mover to North Oakland’s Lesbian Community’ — I suspect because I simply didn’t get all worked up about how they were lesbians. I mean, I realized it — I just didn’t care.

    Anyway, I recall one day that involved stuff being shuffled about between several successive lesbian households, like four or five. The thing was, as the day wore on, the lesbians kept getting more obvious. I mean, we started out with the rather antiseptically attractive type, and headed south from there. By the afternoon, we were dealing with your basic 200 lb diesel. Pleasant enough — but decidedly unambiguous.

  210. @Jonathan Mason
    @Alfa158

    You are partly right. In large marathon races there are actually only a small number of people competing in the race, followed by thousands of recreational runners who pay to participate, but are not trying to win the race--only to beat their own personal best or just to complete the course.

    So therefore the elite female runners will easily beat all the male recreational runners.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Agreed. But the elite female runners will never beat the elite male runners. In the last NYC marathon, the highest finishing woman was in 31st place, 14 minutes behind the winner, or 11% slower. I have had to explain to people how statistical distributions work, particularly at the tail ends. They’ll see that many women do quite well against many men and assume that means the remaining gap is minor can be closed in any sport when actually it won’t be at the very upper end where medals are being handed out.

    • Replies: @ATate
    @Alfa158

    In the 2016 Olympics the Gold Medal Winning female wouldn’t even qualify for the men’s race.

    Steve also posted about the white boy running a sub 10 sec 100m back in 2019.

    He was in High School.

    Her Gold Medal winning time would have placed her 3rd in that same race. Against High School boys.

  211. @Colin Wright
    We could always make emotional manipulation a sport.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Reg Cæsar

    We could always make emotional manipulation a sport.

    That’s called the “two-minute warning”.

  212. @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    This one is easily debunked.

    PA sent out 3 million mail in ballots for the general election.

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

    The 1.8 million Mastriano is referring to is from the _primary_ election.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz

    Now why would someone want to try to confuse the primary election with the general election?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @Eagle Eye

    The Trump Team is probably making a mistake by throwing every allegation off the internet against the wall. The mathematical improbability of the last-minute vote drops in battleground states is the most compelling evidence. This analysis is pretty thorough and rigorous:
    https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

    From the executive summary:

    Looking at 8,954 individual vote updates (differences in vote totals for each candidate between successive changes to the running vote totals, colloquially also referred to as “dumps” or “batches”), we discover a remarkably consistent mathematical property: there is a clear inverse relationship between difference in candidates’ vote counts and and the ratio of the vote counts. (In other words, it’s not surprising to see vote updates with large margins, and it’s not surprising to see vote updates with very large ratios of support between the candidates, but it is surprising to see vote updates which are both).

    The significance of this property will be further explained in later sections of this report. Nearly every vote update, across states of all sizes and political leanings follow this statistical pattern. A very small number, however, are especially aberrant. Of the seven vote updates which follow the pattern the least, four individual vote updates — two in Michigan, one in Wisconsin, and one in Georgia — were particularly anomalous and influential with respect to this property and all occurred within the same five hour window.

    In particular, we are able to quantify the extent of compliance with this property and discover that, of the 8,954 vote updates used in the analysis, these four decisive updates were the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th most anomalous updates in the entire data set. Not only does each of these vote updates not follow the generally observed pattern, but the anomalous behavior of these updates is particularly extreme. That is, these vote updates are outliers of the outliers.

    The four vote updates in question are:

    An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump

    An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump

    A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump

    An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump

    This report predicts what these vote updates would have looked like, had they followed the same pattern as the vast majority of the 8,950 others. We find that the extents of the respective anomalies here are more than the margin of victory in all three states — Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia — which collectively represent forty-two electoral votes.

    https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

    • Replies: @anon
    @Hypnotoad666

    The Trump Team is probably making a mistake by throwing every allegation off the internet against the wall.

    That isn't what they are doing. Not even close. You are misinformed.

    Let's all wait to see what the Pennsylvania assembly does this week, and also if the Georgia judge actually impounds all the voting machines in that state before they are wiped clean.

    Also, let's all recall this Federal law.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/20701


    Every officer of election shall retain and preserve, for a period of twenty-two months from the date of any general, special, or primary election of which candidates for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, or Resident Commissioner from the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico are voted for, all records and papers which come into his possession relating to any application, registration, payment of poll tax, or other act requisite to voting in such election, except that, when required by law, such records and papers may be delivered to another officer of election and except that, if a State or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico designates a custodian to retain and preserve these records and papers at a specified place, then such records and papers may be deposited with such custodian, and the duty to retain and preserve any record or paper so deposited shall devolve upon such custodian. Any officer of election or custodian who willfully fails to comply with this section shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
     
    And this Executive Order:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

    It's only been 26 days since the election. Homeland Security has more time to investigate electoral issues and irregularities.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666

    , @anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666

    If Trump is highlighting such unbelievably foolish claims then it's hard to believe that he has any solid allegation.

  213. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    There is also another “sport” where women consistently outdo men: survival.
     
    Indeed. The premise of this whole conversation is that men are superior and women are equal only insofar as we measure up by men's standards. It's kind of circular, really.

    Replies: @Dave Archer, @Rockford Tyson

    The premise is that men are better than women in sports.If that weren’t true there would be no need for gender segregated competition to begin with.In life itself women are,by any objective standard,better off than men.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Dave Archer


    The premise is that men are better than women in sports.
     
    Hmmm I don't know about that. It's certainly true that men are better at sports, but it's dishonest to deny the ugly pattern of male chauvinist triumphalism underlying this conversation.

    Replies: @TWS, @Morton's toes

  214. @anonymous
    You should comment on Trump's election tweets.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332552283553476608

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @vinny, @Anon, @Father O'Hara, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    “Multiple sources called this election differently.”

    As with “This claim about election fraud is disputed”, someone should hack these tweets and insert his own “Qui s’excuse, s’accuse” following. In chartreuse or magenta, for effect.

  215. @Peterike
    @lavoisier

    “ Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population”

    Uh huh.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/amp/

    Replies: @Rosie

    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population”

    Uh huh.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/amp/

    I’m not sure your link is to the point. I clicked on it and those look like some pretty huge under-15 “boys.”

    In any event, why was this particular team chosen? Were they just chosen at random or are they an outstanding team? If so, they are not really “non-elite.”

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Unzerker
    @Rosie

    This is a regular occurrence.

    Here is another example:
    https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/australian-womens-national-team-lose-70-to-team-of-15yearold-boys-a3257266.html

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    , @TWS
    @Rosie

    Rosie fifteen and under are boys. Men keep improving and growing into their twenties and thirties.

    Being female I can't expect you to understand that. If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you'd see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women's run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men's 60 to 65 years old. That means in plain terms that 4/5ths of women need to pass the test at the same rate as men.

    Replies: @ATate, @Rosie, @prosa123, @S. Anonyia

  216. Don’t know if any men participate in pole championships but I have only known of women winning pole championships. Don’t know if pole dancing falls into the sports category.

  217. @black sea
    OT, but I think there are about 5 iSteve themes running through this brief tale.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/29/mother-of-slain-florida-teen-shot-at-his-burial/

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    And all of those themes are packed into so few words — it’s a short article.

    There are at least three captured just in the following partial sentence:

    Quasheda Pierce, 39, was hit when a shot rang out

    • Replies: @black sea
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    1. Weird, incongruous. or simply made-up names.

    2. Motorists refusing to cooperate when stopped by police.

    3. Motorists fleeing and ignoring police commands to stop the vehicle.

    4. Motorists being shot by police officers.

    5. Mourners carrying guns to a burial ceremony.

    6. Failure to adequately secure gun, leading to "accidental discharge."

    7. Accidentally shooting oneself.

    8. Accidentally shooting innocent bystanders.

    9. Refusing to cooperate in a shooting investigation (of one's own shooting).

    10. No inclusion of the word "father" anywhere in the article.

    Bonus Theme: Mourner's clothing emblazoned with photos of the deceased.


    I guess I underestimated.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Buffalo Joe

  218. Anonymous[225] • Disclaimer says:

    What is your opinion about this Steve?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/america-isnt-falling-apart-its-still-the-land-of-opportunity?ref=author

    More than 840,000 green card holders became citizens last year, the most in a decade. Over 10 percent of the American electorate was born elsewhere, the highest share in a half-century. All of Donald Trump’s huffing and puffing could not stop this demographic evolution; nor could an endless stream of stories about what an unequal, unfair, and no good place America has supposedly become.

    The ground-level integration of America—what my friend Sergio Munoz calls “the multiculturalism of the streets”—continues with ever greater mingling, epitomized by the rise and acceptance of interracial dating, up 40 percent since 2003, and marriage.

    What Trump and his most dedicated opponents have both had trouble appreciating is that, rather than a chaotic future defined by racial conflict, most Americans want both order and justice. Most Americans initially supported the George Floyd protests but soon overwhelmingly rejected the violence and looting that accompanied them. Racial minorities, like other Americans, are increasingly heterodox in their political views.

    This was evident in Trump—an unpleasant and unprincipled man frequently labeled as a “racist” in the mainstream media, a term also applied to his voters— improving in 2020 on his 2016 results with most minorities, including a significant gain in the Latino vote, particularly in Florida and Texas, and among Black men. In California, Asian voters also didn’t flock to Trump, but they helped reject an affirmative action measure bankrolled by the tech oligarchs. In heavily Asian Orange County, Biden won comfortably but the affirmative action measure lost 2-to-1, and two Korean American women replaced Democratic congresspeople. The measure was also crushed in heavily Latino interior counties,.

    California Vote Exposes the Limits of Identity Politics
    LOSING TACT
    Lloyd Green

    Another issue where elite support and popular opinion diverge is defunding the police, a position that the vast majority of Americans—including millennials and minorities—do not favor. As my colleague Charles Blain points out, when the Houston city council was swamped with testimony from residents pushing for the dismantling of the city’s Police Department, Black council members and Mayor Sylvester Turner pushed back, saying that these people clearly didn’t spend time in the communities that they claimed to support. A similar dynamic played out in New York, where Black City Council members held the line against a push to slash the NYPD budget by $1 billion.

    [MORE]

    Economics account for some of Trump’s gains among minority voters. Before the pandemic, most minority workers had done better in terms of income under his administration than they had under previous administrations from both parties. Like working-class people in general, most African Americans did worse economically under Barack Obama despite the enormous boost in political power and influence for portions of the African American upper class on his watch.

    Latinos, suggests former California state Senate Majority Leader Gloria Romero. have been devastated by the state’s more extreme lockdowns, and angered to see their putative advocates, like Gavin Newsom or Nancy Pelosi, flaunt their privilege in luxury and even violate their own rules as “ordinary people have literally been arrested and even thrown in jail for opening their businesses to just survive and feed their families.”

    At the same time, the “woke” views adopted increasingly by corporate America and the mainstream media often do not play well with many immigrants, who, according to one recent survey, are twice as conservative in their social views as the general public. That dynamic may also explain Trump’s gains among culturally conservative Muslim voters and orthodox Jewish voters.

    How the Virus Is Pushing America Toward a Better Future
    GET LOST, DOOMSTERS
    Joel Kotkin

    The growing heterodoxy among minorities can also be seen in their growing geographic dispersion. The notion of minorities clustered in true blue urban enclaves is increasingly antiquated. According to statistics compiled by demographer Wendell Cox in a newly released report, minority populations are growing most rapidly in the South, the Intermountain West and parts of the Great Plains.

    For example, the fastest growth among Black households since 2000 has been in Phoenix; Salt Lake City; Boise, Idaho; Fayetteville, Arkansas; and Las Vegas. Meanwhile the Black population has stagnated in Chicago, New York, and San Jose, and actually declined in the Los Angeles and San Francisco metros. Where 1 in 7 San Franciscans was Black in 1970, today it’s barely 1 in 20.

    Similarly Hispanic growth has been most notable in the South, with growth of over 200 percent in Knoxville and Nashville, Tennessee, and Charlotte, North Carolina, while slowing to roughly one-tenth that pace over the past two decades in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, and San Jose. Similar patterns can be seen among Asians, where cities such as Indianapolis, Fayetteville, Charlotte, Raleigh, and Las Vegas have seen increases over the past two decades of 200 percent or more—four times the rate of Los Angeles, which has the nation’s largest Asian community.

    According to Cox, the demographer, foreign-born populations follow a similar pattern: stagnating and even declining in places like Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago while expanding rapidly in places like Atlanta, Orlando, Charlotte, Kansas City, Nashville, and Louisville. In these areas immigrants generally live with other groups; there are ethnic malls, but not large one-race enclaves.

    The suburbs, not the city, now dominates the non-white experience in America. The model of 1950s and 1960s “white flight” no longer holds. In the 50 largest US metropolitan areas, 44 percent of residents live in racially and ethnically diverse suburbs, ranging from 20 percent to 60 percent non-white. In Atlanta, for example, more than 70 percent of Blacks and Hispanics live in the outer suburbs. Nationwide, in the 53 metropolitan areas with more than a million residents, more than three-quarters of Blacks and Hispanics now live in suburban or exurban areas.

    Most minorities still seek out “the American dream”, notes a recent AEI study, but many lack the conviction they can achieve it.

    One way to achieve the dream is to move—property remains key to financial security. Homes today account for roughly two-thirds of the wealth of middle-income Americans. Home owners have a median net worth more than 40 times that of renters, according to the Census Bureau. Yet in some parts of the country, notably California and the Northeast, housing prices are often out of reach for most minorities.

    In many southern metropolitan areas, like Atlanta, Black home-ownership exceeds 50 percent compared to one-third in Los Angeles, Boston, or New York. Among large metros, Atlanta and Oklahoma City rank highest in best housing affordability for African Americans; for Hispanics, Pittsburgh, Akron and St. Louis stand out while the least affordable housing markets include the four large California metros, Honolulu, and Boston. Asians also follow this pattern, with better affordability in the South and Midwest, while ownership is much lower in traditional Asian hubs as New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Honolulu.

    Minorities are leaving our biggest, densest cities not because they do not love the cultural amenities of New York or California, but for basic economic opportunity created, in part, by underserved markets, lower taxes, lower costs, fewer regulations on new businesses.

    This follows an old American tradition. Economically driven migration in the late 19th century and early 20th century saw Scottish, Scandinavian, and German migrants head to the Great Plains, Armenians to California’s Central Valley, and Mexicans early in the last century to the Southeast and the cities of the North.

    Today immigrants are transforming and re-energizing the Heartland and the South in surprising ways. Nashville may be the country music capital but it is also home to a Little Kurdistan, a Somali community and a growing Latino presence. When I went with my younger daughter to Fargo last summer, we stumbled, in our surprise, on a Thai ice cream parlor. In places like Grand Island, Nebraska, you can run into streets filled with Honduran eateries, servicing the largely Latino workforce that works in the meat packing plants.

    Republicans may fret about the political effect of these diverse populations, who may lean Democratic but the newcomers also are making these places both more economically vibrant and attractive to skilled workers, as demonstrated in a recent report from Heartland Forward. It is also likely that minorities living in more conservative places, starting businesses and buying homes, may be less predictably lockstep in their politics; in Texas, where Latinos generally do better and are more able to buy homes than in California or New York, they also tend to split their votes more evenly between the parties.

    It is in these new places of opportunity—suburbs, small cities, Sunbelt boom towns—that America’s racial quandary can be settled, quietly and with less rancor. “The multiculturalism of the streets” where newcomers meet, eat, work, and even marry with the majority population, is where the burden of our historical racial legacy is being overcome, if only people would bother to see it.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Anonymous

    Well, it's not that our neo-Brazil is that bad of a place, it is that it could have been nicer than what we have to put up with today.

  219. @mmack
    @anon

    John Force has the following daughters:

    Ashley Force
    Brittany Force
    Courtney Force

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Reg Cæsar

    John Force has the following daughters:

    Ashley Force
    Brittany Force
    Courtney Force

    Plus Adria, from his first marriage.

    John and Laurie Force Talk Love, Marriage and Racing

    Racing legend John Force is making up for lost time with his family

    If you wanted to compile an alphabetical list of fad names from three decades ago, you could hardly do better than starting with Ashley, Brittany, and Courtney. Whatever the Forces are, they are not original:

    Ashley b. 1982 (It’s her birthday!) Rank #17 (1982), #4 (1983); Peak years 1991-2 @ #1
    Brittany b. 1986 Rank #8 Peak years 1989-91 @ #3
    Courtney b. 1988 rank #24 Peak years 1990, 1995 @ #17

    https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/babyname.cgi

    The first Mrs Force had more imagination:

    Adria b. 1969 Rank (1971) #989; Peak year 1975 @ #879

  220. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    There is also another “sport” where women consistently outdo men: survival.
     
    Indeed. The premise of this whole conversation is that men are superior and women are equal only insofar as we measure up by men's standards. It's kind of circular, really.

    Replies: @Dave Archer, @Rockford Tyson

    But physically and intellectually, men ARE superior ans the margin is significant. Both as jocks and as nerds, men are better. I made that commentary to point out that rhere is an area where women are physically better. Since sports are physical, I thought it was relevant.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    But physically and intellectually, men ARE superior ans the margin is significant. Both as jocks and as nerds, men are better. I made that commentary to point out that rhere is an area where women are physically better. Since sports are physical, I thought it was relevant.
     
    Yes, looking at it again, it is a circular argument that goes like this:

    Men are better at things men are better at, therefore men are better.

    Replies: @kihowi, @Rockford Tyson

  221. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @black sea

    And all of those themes are packed into so few words -- it's a short article.

    There are at least three captured just in the following partial sentence:


    Quasheda Pierce, 39, was hit when a shot rang out
     

    Replies: @black sea

    1. Weird, incongruous. or simply made-up names.

    2. Motorists refusing to cooperate when stopped by police.

    3. Motorists fleeing and ignoring police commands to stop the vehicle.

    4. Motorists being shot by police officers.

    5. Mourners carrying guns to a burial ceremony.

    6. Failure to adequately secure gun, leading to “accidental discharge.”

    7. Accidentally shooting oneself.

    8. Accidentally shooting innocent bystanders.

    9. Refusing to cooperate in a shooting investigation (of one’s own shooting).

    10. No inclusion of the word “father” anywhere in the article.

    Bonus Theme: Mourner’s clothing emblazoned with photos of the deceased.

    I guess I underestimated.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @black sea

    Great list.

    I'd just add:

    ***All acts of violence in this context occur only in the passive voice.

    ***All shootings are the result of essentially unidentifiable, inevitable, and hence essentially meteorological phenomena, i.e. 'a shot rang out'.

    Replies: @Rohirrimborn

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @black sea

    black sea, the funeral of every shooting victim in the hood is sure to have tee shirts with the victim's photo and mylar balloons. Some where nearby will be a curbside "Shrine" with flowers, candles, stuffed animals and a few empty 40s.

  222. @Alfa158
    @Jonathan Mason

    Agreed. But the elite female runners will never beat the elite male runners. In the last NYC marathon, the highest finishing woman was in 31st place, 14 minutes behind the winner, or 11% slower. I have had to explain to people how statistical distributions work, particularly at the tail ends. They’ll see that many women do quite well against many men and assume that means the remaining gap is minor can be closed in any sport when actually it won’t be at the very upper end where medals are being handed out.

    Replies: @ATate

    In the 2016 Olympics the Gold Medal Winning female wouldn’t even qualify for the men’s race.

    Steve also posted about the white boy running a sub 10 sec 100m back in 2019.

    He was in High School.

    Her Gold Medal winning time would have placed her 3rd in that same race. Against High School boys.

  223. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous

    The Trump Team is probably making a mistake by throwing every allegation off the internet against the wall. The mathematical improbability of the last-minute vote drops in battleground states is the most compelling evidence. This analysis is pretty thorough and rigorous:
    https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

    From the executive summary:


    Looking at 8,954 individual vote updates (differences in vote totals for each candidate between successive changes to the running vote totals, colloquially also referred to as “dumps” or “batches”), we discover a remarkably consistent mathematical property: there is a clear inverse relationship between difference in candidates’ vote counts and and the ratio of the vote counts. (In other words, it's not surprising to see vote updates with large margins, and it's not surprising to see vote updates with very large ratios of support between the candidates, but it is surprising to see vote updates which are both).

    The significance of this property will be further explained in later sections of this report. Nearly every vote update, across states of all sizes and political leanings follow this statistical pattern. A very small number, however, are especially aberrant. Of the seven vote updates which follow the pattern the least, four individual vote updates — two in Michigan, one in Wisconsin, and one in Georgia — were particularly anomalous and influential with respect to this property and all occurred within the same five hour window.

    In particular, we are able to quantify the extent of compliance with this property and discover that, of the 8,954 vote updates used in the analysis, these four decisive updates were the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th most anomalous updates in the entire data set. Not only does each of these vote updates not follow the generally observed pattern, but the anomalous behavior of these updates is particularly extreme. That is, these vote updates are outliers of the outliers.

    The four vote updates in question are:

    An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump

    An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump

    A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump

    An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump

    This report predicts what these vote updates would have looked like, had they followed the same pattern as the vast majority of the 8,950 others. We find that the extents of the respective anomalies here are more than the margin of victory in all three states — Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia — which collectively represent forty-two electoral votes.
     
    https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

    Replies: @anon, @anonymous

    The Trump Team is probably making a mistake by throwing every allegation off the internet against the wall.

    That isn’t what they are doing. Not even close. You are misinformed.

    Let’s all wait to see what the Pennsylvania assembly does this week, and also if the Georgia judge actually impounds all the voting machines in that state before they are wiped clean.

    Also, let’s all recall this Federal law.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/20701

    Every officer of election shall retain and preserve, for a period of twenty-two months from the date of any general, special, or primary election of which candidates for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, or Resident Commissioner from the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico are voted for, all records and papers which come into his possession relating to any application, registration, payment of poll tax, or other act requisite to voting in such election, except that, when required by law, such records and papers may be delivered to another officer of election and except that, if a State or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico designates a custodian to retain and preserve these records and papers at a specified place, then such records and papers may be deposited with such custodian, and the duty to retain and preserve any record or paper so deposited shall devolve upon such custodian. Any officer of election or custodian who willfully fails to comply with this section shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

    And this Executive Order:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

    It’s only been 26 days since the election. Homeland Security has more time to investigate electoral issues and irregularities.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @anon

    According to Sydney Powell it's likely the Governor of Georgia received bribes from Dominion.

    https://youtu.be/Y68pEknYyCM?t=632

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @anon


    Homeland Security has more time to investigate electoral issues and irregularities.
     
    But they are part of the Deep State that probably pulled off this heist in the first place. And finding fraud is "dangerous for our democracy."
  224. I bet my 102 year old grandmother could knock out Joe Biden is the first round of a boxing match.

    • Agree: Trinity
  225. OT or not OT? That is the question.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/29/elisa-crespo-vies-to-become-first-trans-member-of-nyc-council/

    Certainly it is a Current Year sort of competition.

    • Replies: @black sea
    @anon

    Money quote:


    I was in a complicated struggle to make ends meet. A lack of job opportunities for trans women of color led me to sex work. Through this experience I wound up in Florida, where I was arrested and incarcerated with cisgender men. That moment transformed my life forever. It helped me begin my journey in civic engagement.”
     
    Anyone who has had to overcome that much economic deprivation, job discrimination, homophobia, transphobia, slut shaming, and white, male, cisgendered privilege has got my vote. And to think that it all happened in Florida.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

  226. @black sea
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    1. Weird, incongruous. or simply made-up names.

    2. Motorists refusing to cooperate when stopped by police.

    3. Motorists fleeing and ignoring police commands to stop the vehicle.

    4. Motorists being shot by police officers.

    5. Mourners carrying guns to a burial ceremony.

    6. Failure to adequately secure gun, leading to "accidental discharge."

    7. Accidentally shooting oneself.

    8. Accidentally shooting innocent bystanders.

    9. Refusing to cooperate in a shooting investigation (of one's own shooting).

    10. No inclusion of the word "father" anywhere in the article.

    Bonus Theme: Mourner's clothing emblazoned with photos of the deceased.


    I guess I underestimated.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Buffalo Joe

    Great list.

    I’d just add:

    ***All acts of violence in this context occur only in the passive voice.

    ***All shootings are the result of essentially unidentifiable, inevitable, and hence essentially meteorological phenomena, i.e. ‘a shot rang out’.

    • Agree: Gary in Gramercy
    • Replies: @Rohirrimborn
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    The only thing missing from the article was the term "stray bullet". As everyone knows the source of all criminal violence in the 'hood are stray bullets which have incredible lethal aim.

  227. @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous

    The Trump Team is probably making a mistake by throwing every allegation off the internet against the wall. The mathematical improbability of the last-minute vote drops in battleground states is the most compelling evidence. This analysis is pretty thorough and rigorous:
    https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

    From the executive summary:


    Looking at 8,954 individual vote updates (differences in vote totals for each candidate between successive changes to the running vote totals, colloquially also referred to as “dumps” or “batches”), we discover a remarkably consistent mathematical property: there is a clear inverse relationship between difference in candidates’ vote counts and and the ratio of the vote counts. (In other words, it's not surprising to see vote updates with large margins, and it's not surprising to see vote updates with very large ratios of support between the candidates, but it is surprising to see vote updates which are both).

    The significance of this property will be further explained in later sections of this report. Nearly every vote update, across states of all sizes and political leanings follow this statistical pattern. A very small number, however, are especially aberrant. Of the seven vote updates which follow the pattern the least, four individual vote updates — two in Michigan, one in Wisconsin, and one in Georgia — were particularly anomalous and influential with respect to this property and all occurred within the same five hour window.

    In particular, we are able to quantify the extent of compliance with this property and discover that, of the 8,954 vote updates used in the analysis, these four decisive updates were the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th most anomalous updates in the entire data set. Not only does each of these vote updates not follow the generally observed pattern, but the anomalous behavior of these updates is particularly extreme. That is, these vote updates are outliers of the outliers.

    The four vote updates in question are:

    An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump

    An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump

    A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump

    An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump

    This report predicts what these vote updates would have looked like, had they followed the same pattern as the vast majority of the 8,950 others. We find that the extents of the respective anomalies here are more than the margin of victory in all three states — Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia — which collectively represent forty-two electoral votes.
     
    https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

    Replies: @anon, @anonymous

    If Trump is highlighting such unbelievably foolish claims then it’s hard to believe that he has any solid allegation.

  228. @Yancey Ward
    Ultra distance swimming seems to me to be the only truly athletic competition- involving, speed, power, distance- in which women might be able to outdo men, but even then at the very top level of competition, the men are still faster. You basically only find the women winning when the fields of competition aren't elite.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @YetAnotherAnon, @JimDandy, @Prof. Woland, @Russ

    ‘Twas once explained to me by an athletic sassy lass of my acquaintance that the sheilas were better equipped than the mates for those ultra-distance events because 1) she is still burning fat while he is burning muscle and organs, and 2) labor. Darned if I was going to argue.

  229. @Anon
    "Women of the future are on track to run faster than men"

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/women-future-are-track-run-faster-men-7907278.html

    "It is the 100 metres final at the 2156 Olympic games. Eight seconds after the starting pistol has fired, the winner takes gold - the first time a woman has beaten a man over this distance.

    "The seemingly impossible prospect of a woman becoming the fastest person on earth is, according to scientists, just a few generations away."

    The science says.

    For a while there women were going to start winning the marathon also.

    I haven't heard much about these predictions recently. I think science in this case consists of extrapolating with a linear regression on a few years of past elite athlete data, out a century or so.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @pyrrhus, @Russ

    I haven’t heard much about these predictions recently.

    For a while, that Rhonda Rousey woman was touted as a potential male-beater in that ultimate fighting realm. But then she was defeated by fellow female Holly Holm and thus ended that talk. Perhaps a woman of the “non-binary” persuasion will stand and deliver.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Russ

    Joe Rogan said she could beat some top-tier male mma bantamweights. I couldn’t believe it when I heard it. How could someone immersed in the sport be so stupid?

    He later recanted but he lost 1 listener forever. Now he only has 14, 999,999 subscribers to his podcast.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @additionalMike

  230. OT: Where there ever German breed dogs in the White House?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/meet-bidens-first-pets-elect-german-shepherds-champ-major-n1247153
    Biden’s bringing the big dogs to the White House — German shepherds Champ and Major

    German dog is already sabotaging the presidency.

    Biden injures foot while playing with his dog, will probably need walking boot
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/29/biden-twisted-ankle/

    • Replies: @Russ
    @utu


    Biden’s bringing the big dogs to the White House — German shepherds Champ and Major
     
    The hard-hitting U.S. press retains its lofty standards irrespective of the WH occupant, we see.
    , @Ben tillman
    @utu

    That’s just one more reason to love the breed.

  231. @anonymous as usual
    it does not matter, that is, sports does not matter.

    when Belorussia and Russia were invaded, the women snipers killed lots of enemy.

    so what if 10 years later in East Germany the survivors logged onto the pact internet of the day and nervously talked about the superiority of men in sport

    the fact is that thousands and thousands of their fellow men died in a moment because a woman sniper killed them

    it is not a fair competition, life, is it?

    stop braggings, sheeples, SPORTS are for rich kids and the deluded, you knows it.

    All that matters is doing what you have to do for those you care about, and remember

    be careful who you don't care about

    it could be someone you love.

    then you would feel real dumb that you didn't care

    Replies: @pyrrhus, @millennialdad, @R.G. Camara

    100% of Communist propaganda about their female shooters is true, comrade.

  232. @Elli
    @Andy

    A relative was a master chess player, and his belief was that women didn't make the very top levels because tournaments were so physically draining.

    Not to mention competitiveness, interest/obsession, and right tails on the analytical bell curve.

    But the man on the ground thought it was stamina.

    Replies: @CAL2, @keypusher, @Nachum

    I played chess, not at your relative’s level. I never thought stamina came into it. But in work (lawyer, in my case), I remember we males would wind up being the only ones still working at 3:00 am. One of the women on the case thought it was biological. But I thought the men on the case just couldn’t stop working, and the women could.

  233. Anon[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @HFR
    @Anon

    Actually, Daisuke Takahashi is "rebranding" as an ice dancer, not a pairs skater. His size is not that unusual among ice dancers (Scott Moir, Charlie White, and others). In pairs skating, size difference helps (but doesn't seem to matter for Sui/Han). As for female pairs skaters, they are missing the fear chip. The fact that an element of pairs skating is called the death spiral says it all. Many female pairs skaters have had their scalps or cheeks slashed by their partner's blade. They get stitched up and just get back up on the horse, as it were.

    Replies: @Anon, @cliff arroyo

    Actually, Daisuke Takahashi is “rebranding” as an ice dancer, not a pairs skater.

    Ah, that makes sense.

    Takahashi is officially 5’5″ and his partner is 5’4″. Reading up on dancing vs. pairs, I see that dancers cannot do overhead lifts or throws, so it’s more of a ballroom dancing thing and the weight/height difference would be less important.

  234. @Achmed E. Newman
    Aren't there any events in gymnastics in which women (girls really) can beat men due to whatever special features? (I'm thinking along lines such as the higher body fat helping them in the long-distance swimming.)

    How about a question about which team sports men and women can at least play together in harmony? I don't mean woman on one team and men on the other, but a mix. Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well. It's not so unbalanced to where it just doesn't work out.

    Lastly, regarding that Populaire flic. I'm not sure you should trust it, Steve, just because the trailer shows the woman hunt-and-peck typing vs. touch typing. Can someone really win like that? Well, it's French and romantic, so ...

    Replies: @reactionry, @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherGuessModel, @AnotherGuessModel, @ScarletNumber

    Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well

    If you were au courant you would know the sport is simply called Ultimate, probably because Frisbee is not a generic term, but rather a registered trademark of Wham-O, as are Hula Hoop, Frisbee, Slip ‘N Slide, Super Ball, Trac-Ball, Silly String, Hacky Sack, and Boogie Board.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @ScarletNumber

    If it ever got on TV, they have to call it Ultimate, yes. Of course I know "Frisbee" is a trademark. I can't help saying "Ultimate Frisbee" and "Frisbee Golf" instead of "Disc Golf" anyway.

    Don't sue me ScarletNumber. Just like the posters of music videos on youtube, I own nothing!

  235. @anon
    OT or not OT? That is the question.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/29/elisa-crespo-vies-to-become-first-trans-member-of-nyc-council/

    Certainly it is a Current Year sort of competition.

    Replies: @black sea

    Money quote:

    I was in a complicated struggle to make ends meet. A lack of job opportunities for trans women of color led me to sex work. Through this experience I wound up in Florida, where I was arrested and incarcerated with cisgender men. That moment transformed my life forever. It helped me begin my journey in civic engagement.”

    Anyone who has had to overcome that much economic deprivation, job discrimination, homophobia, transphobia, slut shaming, and white, male, cisgendered privilege has got my vote. And to think that it all happened in Florida.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @black sea

    Yes, but was she ever identified as "Florida man"?

  236. Female coxswains in men’s rowing 8’s and 4’s are pretty common.

  237. @black sea
    @anon

    Money quote:


    I was in a complicated struggle to make ends meet. A lack of job opportunities for trans women of color led me to sex work. Through this experience I wound up in Florida, where I was arrested and incarcerated with cisgender men. That moment transformed my life forever. It helped me begin my journey in civic engagement.”
     
    Anyone who has had to overcome that much economic deprivation, job discrimination, homophobia, transphobia, slut shaming, and white, male, cisgendered privilege has got my vote. And to think that it all happened in Florida.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Yes, but was she ever identified as “Florida man”?

  238. @HFR
    @Anon

    Actually, Daisuke Takahashi is "rebranding" as an ice dancer, not a pairs skater. His size is not that unusual among ice dancers (Scott Moir, Charlie White, and others). In pairs skating, size difference helps (but doesn't seem to matter for Sui/Han). As for female pairs skaters, they are missing the fear chip. The fact that an element of pairs skating is called the death spiral says it all. Many female pairs skaters have had their scalps or cheeks slashed by their partner's blade. They get stitched up and just get back up on the horse, as it were.

    Replies: @Anon, @cliff arroyo

    There’s also something called solo ice dance (virtually completely female and created for lower levels where there aren’t enough guys).

    In roller skating they’ve apparently had solo dance for a while (separate mens and womens groups). IIRC in the compulsory stage (where every skater does the exact same steps in the same order) the men are expected to do the lady’s pattern (because those are regarded as more difficult).

  239. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    But physically and intellectually, men ARE superior ans the margin is significant. Both as jocks and as nerds, men are better. I made that commentary to point out that rhere is an area where women are physically better. Since sports are physical, I thought it was relevant.

    Replies: @Rosie

    But physically and intellectually, men ARE superior ans the margin is significant. Both as jocks and as nerds, men are better. I made that commentary to point out that rhere is an area where women are physically better. Since sports are physical, I thought it was relevant.

    Yes, looking at it again, it is a circular argument that goes like this:

    Men are better at things men are better at, therefore men are better.

    • Replies: @kihowi
    @Rosie

    You keep saying that, but you're not naming all those other competitive areas where success can be established objectively, that men engage in in great enough numbers, but women clearly are much better at.

    (This may seem like a lot of qualifiers, but otherwise we'd get things like "we're better at emotional connections" and stuff like that)

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes. You seem salty AF.

    Replies: @Rosie, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

  240. @Dave Archer
    @Rosie

    The premise is that men are better than women in sports.If that weren't true there would be no need for gender segregated competition to begin with.In life itself women are,by any objective standard,better off than men.

    Replies: @Rosie

    The premise is that men are better than women in sports.

    Hmmm I don’t know about that. It’s certainly true that men are better at sports, but it’s dishonest to deny the ugly pattern of male chauvinist triumphalism underlying this conversation.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Rosie

    Triumphalism? For goodness sake.

    No man can give birth (the adaption for having children accounts for the difference). It seems to me to be more than a fair trade.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Morton's toes
    @Rosie

    Ugly male chauvinist triumphalism is cool. This is like the only environment in the entire universe where it is still permitted.

    What is messed up is the logic chain where:

    1. the stupid feminists don't know this obvious truth
    therefore
    2. nothing the stupid feminists say need to be listened to ever because they are so stupid.

    I have worked with at least a dozen guys where they found you made one mistake thereafter for the rest of your life they don't ever have to pay attention to any point you make. Fatal Know It All Ism.

    It's how things like the Titanic crashing into an iceberg happen.

  241. @bomag
    @anonymous

    From 2016; he was 25. Several stories about him in the meantime.

    Haitians are notoriously low achieving, but he seems capable enough. One thought is that he should be in Haiti helping them, but then we wouldn't have the looped story of a Haitian done good to feed the Narrative, so maybe that was a good use of his talents.

    Replies: @anonymous

    He is a Black Hawk pilot now. I hope he makes 4-star general.

  242. @Russ
    @Anon


    I haven’t heard much about these predictions recently.
     
    For a while, that Rhonda Rousey woman was touted as a potential male-beater in that ultimate fighting realm. But then she was defeated by fellow female Holly Holm and thus ended that talk. Perhaps a woman of the "non-binary" persuasion will stand and deliver.

    Replies: @Danindc

    Joe Rogan said she could beat some top-tier male mma bantamweights. I couldn’t believe it when I heard it. How could someone immersed in the sport be so stupid?

    He later recanted but he lost 1 listener forever. Now he only has 14, 999,999 subscribers to his podcast.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Danindc

    Dan, I never understood the Rhonda Rousey hype. ESPN and SI called her the greatest female athlete ever. What? She had 11 bouts. Then she entered the octagon with Holly Hahn, lights out, a true beat down. Her return match against I forgot whom also ended with her being knocked out. Greatest hype since Ali as the number one athlete ever,. Not even the best boxer every.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Unladen Swallow

    , @additionalMike
    @Danindc

    Rogan also initially opined that the Chris Cuomo 100 lb. one-arm dumbell press and partial curl video (all of which he did seated in an office chair, with no apparent attempts to brace or shift his weight) was real. Either Rogan trolls his audience once in a while, or he is in the habit of blurting out silly stuff before he has a chance to think about it.

    Replies: @Danindc

  243. @ScarletNumber
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Coed Ultimate Frisbee works pretty well
     
    If you were au courant you would know the sport is simply called Ultimate, probably because Frisbee is not a generic term, but rather a registered trademark of Wham-O, as are Hula Hoop, Frisbee, Slip 'N Slide, Super Ball, Trac-Ball, Silly String, Hacky Sack, and Boogie Board.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    If it ever got on TV, they have to call it Ultimate, yes. Of course I know “Frisbee” is a trademark. I can’t help saying “Ultimate Frisbee” and “Frisbee Golf” instead of “Disc Golf” anyway.

    Don’t sue me ScarletNumber. Just like the posters of music videos on youtube, I own nothing!

    • LOL: ScarletNumber
  244. @lavoisier
    There is considerable overlap between the abilities of men and women in various sports.

    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population. I am surprised that so many men think they can compete with elite women athletes. Almost none can.

    So elite men vs elite women competitions the men are clearly dominant, but very few men are elite athletes and would lose quickly in whatever sport one wants to consider competing against the elite woman athlete.

    Replies: @Peterike, @Marty, @Unzerker, @TWS

    The average man has a higher grip strength than the strongest female athletes.
    On top of that National women football teams get always beaten by teenage boys when they play friendly games.

  245. @Rosie
    @Peterike


    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population”

    Uh huh.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/amp/
     
    I'm not sure your link is to the point. I clicked on it and those look like some pretty huge under-15 "boys."

    In any event, why was this particular team chosen? Were they just chosen at random or are they an outstanding team? If so, they are not really "non-elite."

    Replies: @Unzerker, @TWS

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Unzerker

    James Benge, the reporter, talking about the women's team coach, can't help sticking the shiv in at the end:

    "Van Egmond will presumably hope that their next opponents New Zealand don’t have any plans to sneak any children into their side."

  246. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @black sea

    Great list.

    I'd just add:

    ***All acts of violence in this context occur only in the passive voice.

    ***All shootings are the result of essentially unidentifiable, inevitable, and hence essentially meteorological phenomena, i.e. 'a shot rang out'.

    Replies: @Rohirrimborn

    The only thing missing from the article was the term “stray bullet”. As everyone knows the source of all criminal violence in the ‘hood are stray bullets which have incredible lethal aim.

  247. @Anon
    Not really a sport, but who would win a groin kicking competition, men or women?

    Men are of course exceptionally vulnerable down there, so the relative weakness of women in kicking power would be made up for. While men have greater kicking power, but women aren't as vulnerable down there as men are.

    Replies: @SFG, @the one they call Desanex, @Rohirrimborn

    Distaff groin kicking competitions are known colloquially as “C**t Punts”.

  248. Fencing.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/11/29/media-hide-sex-transgender-crime-report/

    Several papers misreported the gender of a lunatic tranny who attacked a man with a machete in Florida.

  249. @James Braxton
    @Anonymous

    The late great Joey Ramone, ladies and gentlemen.

    Replies: @Squid

    No way. No black leather jacket, no Joey Ramone.

    • Agree: Gary in Gramercy
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Squid

    Agreed. Plus, if Joey had ever shown up to a rehearsal or gig in an orange shirt and white pants, Johnny would have beaten him to within an inch of his life.

  250. @AndrewR
    Chicago Bears VP wants his daughter to play in the NFL. Vile.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FaberBrandon/status/1332771727907106820

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ben tillman, @Mike Tre

    Guy’s name is Faber. Do you think he believes, “Knowledge is good”?

    • LOL: Gary in Gramercy
  251. @Colin Wright
    Well, the whole thing's a bit silly.

    Compared to most animals, humans are grossly handicapped by that huge head. I mean, you're dragging around a twenty pound ball and chain or something. It's no joke. Any primate can out-anything you.

    So that's us, men and women. Hopeless. D+ on a good day.

    Now add in the biological modifications necessary to bear those huge-headed babies.

    Those wide hips -- well, that takes women down a notch further. But it's not that men are better so much as that women are even worse. They don't just have the huge head -- they've got another handicap.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    It’s more basic than that.
    Women are evolved, or created, take your pick, to do the single most important thing of any species, the bearing and nurturing of the next generation. Three billion years of success so far. Men are there to do all the other things necessary to make that successful. Two very different roles and competencies.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Thanks: Rosie
  252. @utu
    OT: Where there ever German breed dogs in the White House?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/meet-bidens-first-pets-elect-german-shepherds-champ-major-n1247153
    Biden's bringing the big dogs to the White House — German shepherds Champ and Major

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/I_am_neutral_but_not_afraid_of_any_of_them_1915.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/47mtfFv/card00357-fr.jpg

    German dog is already sabotaging the presidency.

    Biden injures foot while playing with his dog, will probably need walking boot
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/29/biden-twisted-ankle/

    Replies: @Russ, @Ben tillman

    Biden’s bringing the big dogs to the White House — German shepherds Champ and Major

    The hard-hitting U.S. press retains its lofty standards irrespective of the WH occupant, we see.

  253. @Bardon Kaldian
    @International Jew


    Foosball. You don’t need to be strong, you don’t need to be tall. You do need a delicate touch.
     
    Are you aware of what you wrote?

    Smh....

    https://yoursoccerhome.com/soccer-is-harder-than-football-4-reasons-why/

    Replies: @prosa123, @International Jew, @guest007

    Sorry, I should have remembered that this blog is read outside the USA. Also, since Foosball is a corruption (likely Texan) of Fußball, I owe our German readers an apology for cultural appropriation!

  254. @Rosie
    @Bardon Kaldian


    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?
     
    It's just that you don't know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You'd be surprised.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Colin Wright, @Mike Tre, @AKAHorace

    My sister in law is a lesbian and has an extensive network within the the sisterhood in Chicago. I’m not sure what you’re seeing, but based on my experience, not a one of them is physically attractive by any measure.

  255. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    But physically and intellectually, men ARE superior ans the margin is significant. Both as jocks and as nerds, men are better. I made that commentary to point out that rhere is an area where women are physically better. Since sports are physical, I thought it was relevant.
     
    Yes, looking at it again, it is a circular argument that goes like this:

    Men are better at things men are better at, therefore men are better.

    Replies: @kihowi, @Rockford Tyson

    You keep saying that, but you’re not naming all those other competitive areas where success can be established objectively, that men engage in in great enough numbers, but women clearly are much better at.

    (This may seem like a lot of qualifiers, but otherwise we’d get things like “we’re better at emotional connections” and stuff like that)

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @kihowi


    You keep saying that, but you’re not naming all those other competitive areas where success can be established objectively, that men engage in in great enough numbers, but women clearly are much better at.
     
    Women are more likely to graduate from high school than men.
    Women are more likely to graduate from college than men.
    Women are less likely to wind up in jail than men.
    Women are less likely to kill themselves than men.
    Women are less likely to die of a drug overdose than men.
    Women are less likely to kill someone, accidentally or on purpose, than men.

    All these things can be objectively measured.

    This may seem like a lot of qualifiers,
     
    Indeed.

    but otherwise we’d get things like “we’re better at emotional connections” and stuff like that)
     
    Right. You're setting up the debate precisely so that the outcome is determined: men are superior.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @kihowi

  256. @Rockford Tyson
    - Distance swimming

    - Table tenis.

    - Power walking

    There is also another "sport" where women consistently outdo men: survival. Women live on average 7-8 years more than men, suffer from less infections, have less both congenital as well as acquired chronic diseases. The majority of centenarians are women, and almost all super-centenarians are female. Men's greater upper body strength and endurance comes at the cost of decreased immune function, decreased cellular autophagy(and higher accumulation of misfolded proteins), decreased DNA repair and faster exhaustion of stem cells.

    Tall men are the shortest-lived humans, while short females are the longest-lived on average.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Mike Tre, @anon

    Yes women can barter access to their vagina in exchange for a whole list of advantages, further life being one of them.

    Women also don’t go off to fight and die in wars , and don’t participate in the most dangerous jobs our civilized world depends on. (Recent social lunacy excluded) So yeah, they live longer.

  257. @Ben tillman
    @obwandiyag

    They’re more buoyant.

    Replies: @Michelle

    And also stay a bit warmer, because of the higher fat to muscle ratio.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  258. @Bardon Kaldian
    @International Jew


    Foosball. You don’t need to be strong, you don’t need to be tall. You do need a delicate touch.
     
    Are you aware of what you wrote?

    Smh....

    https://yoursoccerhome.com/soccer-is-harder-than-football-4-reasons-why/

    Replies: @prosa123, @International Jew, @guest007

    A sport with no last second situations and no hand-to-eye coordination is not the harder sport. The flopping alone makes soccer look bad along with the no union for players, no salary cap, and the same few teams winning all of the time.

  259. Whenever the argument about whether or not any given sports’ competitors are actually athletes or not, the best way to determine the required athleticism is whether or not a man over 40 or any woman can compete anywhere close to the best men.

    Ergo, auto racing is a sport that does not require one to be an actual athlete, even if it has physical demands.
    No old man or woman will ever compete in the 100m with the best men. Nor compete in the pole vault, or play running back, linebacker, WR, db, etc in the NFL, or other strenuous sports that require speed, strength, agility, etc.

    One silver lining from the trans-nonsense might be that wimmins sports go away, except for the ones that some people might actually like to watch.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Clemsnman

    How are women’s sports going away a good thing when the U.S has insane obesity rates? Here in flyover country, virtually the ONLY women who remain normal weight post 30 are ex-athletes and other exercise fanatics. Women aren’t going to magically start walking everywhere like they do in Europe. I hate the insane emphasis we place on sports in this country (particularly football), but overall amateur sports are a net positive including for women.

    Also female athletes (generally) have a more realistic view of what women are physically capable of than ordinary women. And ironically in certain sports they are better than many typical men, though they will never remotely approach the ability levels of trained men. Take 5ks/10ks- I run them often and beat a fair amount of men my age and older, including men with similarly sporadic weekly mileage. I don’t beat many of the teenage boys who decide to participate, however, nor do I expect to. Most of the “you go girl” comments about this underwhelming kick came from women whose only exercise is getting off the couch occasionally. As for why Sarah Fuller herself participated in the charade, maybe she was overconfident following her SEC soccer title, and got talked into it by the former head football coach?

    Also I’ve never met an actual athletic man who wanted the end of women’s sport, the only exception being very embittered ex-wrestlers.

    Replies: @Clemsnman, @Bel Riose

  260. OT:

    Nine months into the Coronoapocalypse, I can finally say that I know someone who has the virus. Evidently it’s a serious case.

    The patient is a 30-year-old doctor – half-Thai, one-quarter ethnic German, one-quarter Jewish. 100% gay – who lives in New York. He’s doing a little better now (after nearly two weeks), but in the early stages he genuinely feared that he might die. Totally bedridden, he was unable to move and unwilling to fall asleep for fear that he might never wake up.

    Before he moved to the Big Apple, he was enthusiastic about living in The Greatest City in the World(TM). Then he discovered the joys of riding mass transit with homeless people who use subway cars as toilets.

  261. @Steve Sailer
    @Yancey Ward

    How does ocean swimming work? Do they all compete at once or do they go on different days? You kind of need a boat with a rifleman in case you encounter a shark.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Chrisnonymous, @Yancey Ward, @George Taylor, @Anon

    Open Water/Ocean swimming is set-up much like cross country running events. For example every non pandemic summer there are many open water races in Southern California which are typically 1 – 3 miles in length. These are characterized by large group starts, which can be a bit violent, man against man jockeying for position and man against the elements. It’s fun. The official Fédération internationale de natation (FINA) in English: International Swimming Federation, official “marathon” distance is 10K or about 6.3 miles. For elite swimmers, this takes them around two hours, roughly the time equivalent of a running marathon. At the 10K distance, elite women are around 3.5% slower then elite men. The longest official race ran under FINA sanctioning is 25K. The longest regularly run races for the masses is Australia’s Rottnest Channel Swim at just under 20K and 20 Bridges, formerly known as the Manhattan Island Marathon swim at 28 miles. Again, elite men have a slight speed edge over elite women.

    There’s no official rule, however in the endurance swimming community, at around 20 miles plus, it’s considered “ultra” marathon swimming like the English and Catalina Channels. These are not done as races but as relays or individual crossings under the auspices of local governing organizations. FYI – to be official, you cannot wear a wetsuit, must follow rules that disallow certains kinds of assistance such as touching your support boat. The local governing organizations provide an official observer to make sure the swim is done under the rules. For non-regular swims that don’t have a local governing organization, such as Sarah Thomas’s two record setting swims 104 miles in Lake Champlain and her previous record of 80 miles in Lake Powell were done under the Marathon Swimming Federation (MSF) this organization certifies these swims as long as they follow certain rules (again no wetsuits etc.) and are observed by independent observers. Women dominate the longest “current neutral” swims see link, but men do represent. https://longswims.com/longest-swims/

    Regarding sharks, in the past, sharks that came near were shot. That is no longer acceptable. In shark waters, observers look out for them and will pull the swimmer if needed. Sadly for the swimmer this ends there event, as it violates the assistance rules, but your alive for another day.

    FYI – within the ultra Marathon Swimming community Diana Nyad is considered a charlatan as her swims did not follow MSF rules and were not well documented by independent observers.

  262. @Moral Stone
    @Trinity

    True, but Stefi also appears to be on serious steroids, to the point of some vocal masculinization and “roid gut.” Obviously, the male competitors are also juiced to the gills, but gear is probably an equalizer when it’s used in a sport with weight classes. It will allow a woman of a given height to probably pack on muscle at a low body fat in order to fill out one of the lower weight classes.

    An interesting question is, given enough anabolic steroids, is there a big difference between male and female “ceilings” for a given height/frame?

    Replies: @prosa123

    True, but Stefi also appears to be on serious steroids, to the point of some vocal masculinization and “roid gut.”

    Your use of the first name to refer to a female athlete you don’t personally know is a sign of idiocy.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber, TWS
  263. @Jonathan Mason
    @Peterike

    West Point seems to scrape the barrel to fill its vacancies.

    I believe Mike Pompeo finished top of his class at West Point, and he is an imbecile.

    Replies: @Corn

    Even more disturbingly it seems that West Point is as woke as many civilian universities.

    • Agree: bomag
  264. @Father O'Hara
    @anonymous

    If I know the Dear Leader,he has put up this woman stuff to gain time as he researches an ass kicking post about Trump.
    You hear that sh*t about the Delta Force shooting it out with the CIA?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Corn, @Corvinus

    I heard it. I do think the Democrats stole the election (too many coincidences and statistical improbabilities going their way) but Trump’s supporters are losing the PR war with some of the stuff they toss around.

  265. @AndrewR
    Chicago Bears VP wants his daughter to play in the NFL. Vile.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FaberBrandon/status/1332771727907106820

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ben tillman, @Mike Tre

    Well my first reply to you was apparently flushed by our free speech loving host. It was pretty benign but I guess it all depends on how he’s feeling at the moment of moderation.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Mike Tre

    Well make it benigner so I can see it lol

  266. @Carlo
    @millennialdad

    I don't know. In the USSR there were successful women in other areas also, like pilots, and even in something extremely competitve and agressive as fighter pilot. The greatest female ace of all time was Lidya Litvyak: she had between 5 to 12 kills, which is very few compared to male aces like Ivan Kozhedub (highest scoring allied fighter pilot, with over 60 kills), but she also died early in the war, in 1943.

    Replies: @HunInTheSun

    No “Ivan Kozhedub” downed 60 Axis warplanes, maybe 6, Soviet kill tallies are propaganda fabrications including those of their lady jocks, Soviet combat aviation in WW2 was a suicide mission, the Luftwaffe could achieve air superiority over any battlefield (fuel supplies permitting) right to the end of the war except where the front moved far enough north and west to bring U.S. and U.K. fighters into range.

  267. @couch scientist
    Women should have contests to see who can produce the most breast milk in 20 minutes, stuff like that. This may seem weird, but it's probably healthier than contests of who can eat the most hotdogs.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    I always get a kick out of seeing “Mennonite cheese” on a menu. If goat cheese comes from goats, then . . . .

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
    @Ben tillman

    I get the same kick when I see "Oriental Flavored Ramen." If chicken flavored ramen tastes like chicken and shrimp flavored Ramen tastes like shrimp, then ....

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  268. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:

    Fulton County, Georgia includes a lot of Atlanta. The recount was delayed due to the crash of a “mobile sever”, whatever that is.

    https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/elections/fulton-election-recount-server-crash/85-167dd463-64b8-4f78-993e-3cfabc9d7537

    Not worry, techs from Dominion have been dispatched to fix things! All is well!

  269. Wife-carrying champion – his last World Championship was 2017 – Taisto Miettinen is a world-class Finnish athlete. No woman could do what he does, so wife-carrying is definitely NOT a sport in which a female could compete (other than how females already compete in wife-carrying, in that they are essentially ballast).

  270. @Hibernian
    A situp contest. Army physical fitness standards in this event, back in the day, required more from women than men, due to pelvic and/or abdominal muscle advantages. Then, due to PC, TPTB decided that standards would be equal for one event, and that one event was the situp.

    Replies: @Ola

    Army physical fitness standards in this event, back in the day, required more from women than men, due to pelvic and/or abdominal muscle advantages.

    No it is simple mechanics and due to a more advantageous upper body/lower body weight ratio. A light upper body and heavy legs make sit ups much easier.

  271. @lavoisier
    There is considerable overlap between the abilities of men and women in various sports.

    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population. I am surprised that so many men think they can compete with elite women athletes. Almost none can.

    So elite men vs elite women competitions the men are clearly dominant, but very few men are elite athletes and would lose quickly in whatever sport one wants to consider competing against the elite woman athlete.

    Replies: @Peterike, @Marty, @Unzerker, @TWS

    Simply not true. Good high school judo players are hardly elite but they’ll wipe the floor with professional female mma fighters. Put an average college mma fighter with a female pro and he simply dominates.

    It’s the same in any sport, boys regularly beat female national or championship teams. Every year or so, an idiot coach puts her nationally ranked or championship soccer, basketball, you name it against a good local boys team sometimes literally boys 14 and under or Jr high. The women get humiliated with a blowout. There’s so little overlap that an average male athlete 50th percentile has greater upper body strength than 90th percentile female. It’s as if there were significant differences in design and materials between the two groups.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    @TWS


    Good high school judo players are hardly elite but they’ll wipe the floor with professional female mma fighters.
     
    I would take this bet in a heartbeat.

    High school boys taking judo would not stand a chance against a professional woman elite MMA fighter.
    , @Trinity
    @TWS

    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes. No way would I pay to see it though. It would be too brutal to watch, I hate watching another female fight another female much less a guy beating on a woman. That is the thing with MOST men. MOST males, ( at least any NORMAL male) couldn't find it in himself to go all out against a woman in a physical confrontation. Hell, MOST men won't even go all out in a tennis match against a woman, much less an MMA fight, boxing or wrestling match. A no win situation for any man to find himself in. Anyone remember the Chyna vs. Joey Buttafuoco boxing match? If I remember right, Chyna did fairly well, can't remember if Joey pulled it out (no pun intended.) Oh well.

    Replies: @Danindc, @lavoisier

  272. @Rosie
    @Peterike


    Elite women athletes, even in sports with extreme testosterone demands like combat sports, are better than 99.9 percent of the non-elite male population”

    Uh huh.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/amp/
     
    I'm not sure your link is to the point. I clicked on it and those look like some pretty huge under-15 "boys."

    In any event, why was this particular team chosen? Were they just chosen at random or are they an outstanding team? If so, they are not really "non-elite."

    Replies: @Unzerker, @TWS

    Rosie fifteen and under are boys. Men keep improving and growing into their twenties and thirties.

    Being female I can’t expect you to understand that. If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you’d see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women’s run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men’s 60 to 65 years old. That means in plain terms that 4/5ths of women need to pass the test at the same rate as men.

    • Replies: @ATate
    @TWS

    When I was a junior in college we played bball on the courts between a few of the dorms on campus. Me and 2 buddies played about 4-5 games 3-on-3 with starters from the women's basketball team. This was at a Div. I PAC 10 (12) school. My 2 buddies played HS basketball but I did not. Neither one of those dudes got even a whiff of recruitment for basketball, not even from a community college.

    We beat the ladies handily in every game. One of them was about 6'3" and the other two shorter (around 5'9" maybe a bit taller). All were good athletes and were a treat to play against. But, it wasn't close. I'm 6' but could easily outjump the taller female by at least 8-9". They could shoot very well, but since we hustled and actually played a bit of defense they rarely got open looks. I could easily back down on the taller chick and shoot turn around jumpers or even jump hooks as I got closer to the rim. I'm a guard. I don't have a vast repertoire of post moves.

    This was the early 90's so we thought nothing of it, other than it was cool to play against them. Used to go to all their games on campus as well, was a very fun atmosphere. They were gracious when we played against them and very sweet if we saw them around campus.

    I still maintain that a good boys high school basketball team would clean the clock of a team of WBNA All Stars. Now I'm not talking about the HS boys team from down the block in Troutdale Oregon but one from like St. Anthony's.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    , @Rosie
    @TWS


    Rosie fifteen and under are boys.
     
    No, they are not boys. They are adolescents, in other words, they have already begun the transition to manhood and are already bigger and stronger than adult women, and therefore it is not really a fair match in terms of skill.

    One doesn't match a featherweight against a heavyweight, not because featherweights aren't skilled boxers, but because they have a size-strength advantage.

    Now, does that advantage mean that only heavyweight boxers are any good? Does it mean that nobody should care about lighter weight class competitions? Does it mean that these weight classes are less interesting/instructive/inspiring to watch? Why should that be so?

    Indeed, though less skilled, some people say women's chess is more fun to watch, because we don't care so much about winning that we're unwilling to take any risks. Male grandmaster chess is often dull because they draw so often. Dramatic checkmates are rare.

    https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/must-confess-i-really-enjoy-watching-womens-chess

    I personally don't care if male athletes get paid more. Most people who pay to watch sports are men, and they want to watch other men. Fine. That doesn't mean you have to be an a$$hole and deliberately minimize and belittle women's accomplishments.

    Personally, I think women athletes should market themselves to larger families that can't afford 50 bucks a ticket and let the men price themselves out of the market if they so desire.

    Replies: @Trinity, @TWS

    , @prosa123
    @TWS

    If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you’d see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women’s run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men’s 60 to 65 years old.

    Why would tests for police officers and firefighters have men's 60 to 65 age categories? Any man in that age group would be long retired.

    Replies: @TWS

    , @S. Anonyia
    @TWS

    Not universally true. I took the police exam in my city because I was afraid I couldn’t get a teaching job. Got a teaching job about a month later so it ended up a totally unnecessary exploit, but I got harassed for next 1.5 years to interview for officer positions in both the city and surrounding municipalities. Men and women had to meet the same standards. It was the equivalent of a 10 minute mile for 1.5 miles, x number of push-ups, fence jumping etc. Only 3 women took it but all of those that did passed. Also there were identical standards across age groups.

    You’re thinking of the military where there are different standards.

    Replies: @TWS

  273. @Currahee
    Steve,
    OK with the sports; but what do you and some of your braino pals make of this election challenge controversy?
    Is this totally nutball? Smoke? Fire?
    Search me, have no idea myself. Looking for some expert opinions that I trust.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Watch Scott Adams or Steven Crowder. They have put a lot of time into that issue.

  274. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:

    In the U.S., equestrian events are becoming almost all Rich Girl-dominated, with close to 90% of competitors lately being female.

    Bill Gate’s oldest daughter Jennifer Gates is an equestrian. She recently got engaged to her Chicago born Egyptian-American boyfriend who is a professional equestrian. They met while at Stanford.

    A friend once told me that a parent at her daughter’s fancy private school donated a horse to Stanford after her daughter was done competing in equestrian. Stanford took the horse then rejected her daughter during admissions, doh! As the NYTimes pointed out, getting in through the side door to these fancy schools these days takes at least 8 figures, the horse donated was only in the 6 figures. I know of Microsoft execs/Stanford alums who donated entire buildings to Stanford to get their kids in.

    How about bowling, ping pong, card games, do women do as well in these?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @anon

    OneNineNine, my grand daughter, in Bucks County,Pa., is an age group champion equestrian. My daughter has a lease arangement for the horse she rides in competition. The horse can be had for $50,000. A recent horse from the same stable brought $100,000. That to me is serious money. And at the few events I have attended most of the riders were female.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @anon


    the horse donated was only in the 6 figures
     
    I'm surprised it was that much. At your local racetrack, any of the horses running in the claiming races can be had as long as your check clears. For example, Sunday at Aqueduct in Queens, the 10th race was the claiming race. You could buy any of the horses running for a mere $30,000. This included the winner, Unprecedented, who collected a purse of $20,900 for his owner Tobey L. Morton.

    Replies: @prosa123

  275. @Rosie
    @Dave Archer


    The premise is that men are better than women in sports.
     
    Hmmm I don't know about that. It's certainly true that men are better at sports, but it's dishonest to deny the ugly pattern of male chauvinist triumphalism underlying this conversation.

    Replies: @TWS, @Morton's toes

    Triumphalism? For goodness sake.

    No man can give birth (the adaption for having children accounts for the difference). It seems to me to be more than a fair trade.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @TWS


    Triumphalism? For goodness sake.

    No man can give birth (the adaption for having children accounts for the difference). It seems to me to be more than a fair trade.
     
    I quite agree with you, and women taunting men about their inability to give birth (and claiming that they are inferior on that account) would be every bit as unseemly.

    Replies: @ATate

  276. @utu
    OT: Where there ever German breed dogs in the White House?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/meet-bidens-first-pets-elect-german-shepherds-champ-major-n1247153
    Biden's bringing the big dogs to the White House — German shepherds Champ and Major

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/I_am_neutral_but_not_afraid_of_any_of_them_1915.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/47mtfFv/card00357-fr.jpg

    German dog is already sabotaging the presidency.

    Biden injures foot while playing with his dog, will probably need walking boot
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/29/biden-twisted-ankle/

    Replies: @Russ, @Ben tillman

    That’s just one more reason to love the breed.

  277. @Kronos
    Maybe certain esports?

    Very interesting video on an all-female esports team that flopped.

    https://youtu.be/HbH8BhgKXbM

    I’d think esports that weren’t so visual-spatial might even things out.

    Replies: @SIMP simp, @Kent Nationalist, @anonymous

    Many females in esports are “female”.

  278. @Rosie
    @Dave Archer


    The premise is that men are better than women in sports.
     
    Hmmm I don't know about that. It's certainly true that men are better at sports, but it's dishonest to deny the ugly pattern of male chauvinist triumphalism underlying this conversation.

    Replies: @TWS, @Morton's toes

    Ugly male chauvinist triumphalism is cool. This is like the only environment in the entire universe where it is still permitted.

    What is messed up is the logic chain where:

    1. the stupid feminists don’t know this obvious truth
    therefore
    2. nothing the stupid feminists say need to be listened to ever because they are so stupid.

    I have worked with at least a dozen guys where they found you made one mistake thereafter for the rest of your life they don’t ever have to pay attention to any point you make. Fatal Know It All Ism.

    It’s how things like the Titanic crashing into an iceberg happen.

  279. Wokeness and hypocrisy really go together…..

    Layla Saad has now published two books titled ‘Me and White Supremacy’ — the first in January 2020, and the second in November 2020, this one described as a ‘guided journal’, and released just in time for the Christmas gift lists.

    Saad — who also works as a life coach and spiritual mentor for business entrepreneurs — has received particularly glowing coverage in women’s magazines including Vogue, Marie Claire, Elle, and Glamour, and praise from white celebrities including Anne Hathaway, Elizabeth Gilbert (the author of ‘Eat, Pray, Love’), and Robin DiAngelo, who wrote the foreword to ‘Me and White Supremacy’.

    Based on public statements like this, one would be forgiven for assuming that Saad is American, but no — as she has written in earlier blog posts, her family are originally from Oman, her mother was born in Zanzibar, and her father was born in Kenya.

    Saad’s parents met while studying in Britain, where she was born. When Saad was fifteen, the family moved to Qatar because her father was “head-hunted for a job” and Saad completed her schooling at a British private school in Qatar before returning to the UK briefly to study law. She is now permanently settled in Doha with her husband and children.

    In other words, Saad has no family connection to either America or West Africa.

    I am a black muslim woman. I carry within me both the experience from my own lifetime of racism and discrimination, and the collective trauma of belonging to a people who were slaves for centuries.
    – LAYLA SAAD

    She is referring here to the transatlantic slave trade, not the Arab slave trade in East Africa which enslaved an estimated 17 million people between the 7th and 20th centuries. In fact, as far as I have been able to tell, Saad has never once commented on crimes, either historic or modern, committed in the country in which she has spent almost all her adult life.

    Although Qatar officially outlawed slavery in 1952, there are estimated to be more enslaved people now living in the country than in almost any other worldwide and the Qatari government’s tolerance for the practice — which I have written about previously in these pages — has led the UN to threaten international sanctions.

    It is quite possible that Saad is not directly implicated in any of these abuses. But her silence on the subject of this ongoing form of slavery is striking, given her own commitment to the idea of collective guilt.

    https://unherd.com/thepost/layla-saad-a-curious-case-of-false-identification-with-black-america/

  280. anonymous[832] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    This one is easily debunked.

    PA sent out 3 million mail in ballots for the general election.

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

    The 1.8 million Mastriano is referring to is from the _primary_ election.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz

    Now why would someone want to try to confuse the primary election with the general election?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @Eagle Eye

    PA SoS messed with the numbers after Guiliani presented evidence to screw him.

    But assume that it’s true, and 3 million mail in ballots were returned. That means that 40% of the mail voters did not request ballots for the primary. Doesn’t make sense. All of these voters decide at the last minute that they care about the election now? The GOP didn’t even have a competitive primary so GOP voters would have been more likely to do something like that.

    The PA f*ckery is obvious.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Troll: Corvinus
  281. @Franz Liszt von Raiding
    @Anon

    Right so the four time loser who can’t fill a room and succeeds only by corruption (and brags about it) BEAT the wildly popular, effective, INCUMBENT who filled to overflow capacity multiple stadiums daily for a month heading into Election Day. Right-ee-oh-ho!!

    Replies: @anonymous

    Venezuela orchestrated the stolen election.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Troll: Corvinus
  282. @anon
    @Hypnotoad666

    The Trump Team is probably making a mistake by throwing every allegation off the internet against the wall.

    That isn't what they are doing. Not even close. You are misinformed.

    Let's all wait to see what the Pennsylvania assembly does this week, and also if the Georgia judge actually impounds all the voting machines in that state before they are wiped clean.

    Also, let's all recall this Federal law.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/20701


    Every officer of election shall retain and preserve, for a period of twenty-two months from the date of any general, special, or primary election of which candidates for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, or Resident Commissioner from the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico are voted for, all records and papers which come into his possession relating to any application, registration, payment of poll tax, or other act requisite to voting in such election, except that, when required by law, such records and papers may be delivered to another officer of election and except that, if a State or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico designates a custodian to retain and preserve these records and papers at a specified place, then such records and papers may be deposited with such custodian, and the duty to retain and preserve any record or paper so deposited shall devolve upon such custodian. Any officer of election or custodian who willfully fails to comply with this section shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
     
    And this Executive Order:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

    It's only been 26 days since the election. Homeland Security has more time to investigate electoral issues and irregularities.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666

    According to Sydney Powell it’s likely the Governor of Georgia received bribes from Dominion.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Troll: Corvinus
  283. @Bardon Kaldian
    @BB753

    I hate, hate, hate typing.

    I'm still using paleo-cell phone (Nokia) & not smartphone for a few reasons, one of them being I cannot type anything. Google/Duck/Yippy search is a torture; it takes too much time & it's not doable- at least for me.

    Also, I don't give a hoot about social networks, nor about Internet via smartphone. And I hate touchscreens.

    This- yes:

    https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/c/cellphone.jpg

    This- no:

    https://portagenorthernlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/iPhones-Brand-Banner-900x800.jpg

    Replies: @BB753

    Blackberrys were also a good solution for small fingers. Not my case.

  284. @TWS
    @Rosie

    Triumphalism? For goodness sake.

    No man can give birth (the adaption for having children accounts for the difference). It seems to me to be more than a fair trade.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Triumphalism? For goodness sake.

    No man can give birth (the adaption for having children accounts for the difference). It seems to me to be more than a fair trade.

    I quite agree with you, and women taunting men about their inability to give birth (and claiming that they are inferior on that account) would be every bit as unseemly.

    • Replies: @ATate
    @Rosie


    women taunting men about their inability to give birth (and claiming that they are inferior on that account) would be every bit as unseemly.
     
    and then...

    @Rosie


    Without women’s ability to bear children, none of you would exist.
     
    BOOYAH!!!
    Checkmate you misogynistic football players.

    Replies: @Rosie

  285. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    But physically and intellectually, men ARE superior ans the margin is significant. Both as jocks and as nerds, men are better. I made that commentary to point out that rhere is an area where women are physically better. Since sports are physical, I thought it was relevant.
     
    Yes, looking at it again, it is a circular argument that goes like this:

    Men are better at things men are better at, therefore men are better.

    Replies: @kihowi, @Rockford Tyson

    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes. You seem salty AF.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes.
     
    I'm not at all sure men are better at "most things." As Steve said, things men are better at tend to be made into competitive activities.

    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women's ability to bear children, none of you would exist.


    You seem salty AF.
     
    Thanks for noticing.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson, @Don't Look at Me, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Rockford Tyson

    "You seem salty AF."

    Her name is Rosie. Saltiness is a given.

    , @anon
    @Rockford Tyson

    You seem salty AF.

    It's a feature of her particular style of trolling. Feel that hook in your lip yet?
    Now, pay more attention to her. MOAR attention! She loves it.

  286. @TWS
    @Rosie

    Rosie fifteen and under are boys. Men keep improving and growing into their twenties and thirties.

    Being female I can't expect you to understand that. If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you'd see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women's run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men's 60 to 65 years old. That means in plain terms that 4/5ths of women need to pass the test at the same rate as men.

    Replies: @ATate, @Rosie, @prosa123, @S. Anonyia

    When I was a junior in college we played bball on the courts between a few of the dorms on campus. Me and 2 buddies played about 4-5 games 3-on-3 with starters from the women’s basketball team. This was at a Div. I PAC 10 (12) school. My 2 buddies played HS basketball but I did not. Neither one of those dudes got even a whiff of recruitment for basketball, not even from a community college.

    We beat the ladies handily in every game. One of them was about 6’3″ and the other two shorter (around 5’9″ maybe a bit taller). All were good athletes and were a treat to play against. But, it wasn’t close. I’m 6′ but could easily outjump the taller female by at least 8-9″. They could shoot very well, but since we hustled and actually played a bit of defense they rarely got open looks. I could easily back down on the taller chick and shoot turn around jumpers or even jump hooks as I got closer to the rim. I’m a guard. I don’t have a vast repertoire of post moves.

    This was the early 90’s so we thought nothing of it, other than it was cool to play against them. Used to go to all their games on campus as well, was a very fun atmosphere. They were gracious when we played against them and very sweet if we saw them around campus.

    I still maintain that a good boys high school basketball team would clean the clock of a team of WBNA All Stars. Now I’m not talking about the HS boys team from down the block in Troutdale Oregon but one from like St. Anthony’s.

    • Thanks: Rosie
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @ATate

    Did you date any of the basketball players at your Pac10 school?


    HS boys team from ... St. Anthony’s
     
    I didn't know they were nationally known. In any event the school closed in 2017 due to lack of funding, as it was no longer being supported by its parish, i.e. St. Anthony's RC church in Jersey City. The current NJ power is The Patrick School in Hillside, alma mater of Kyrie Irving of the Brooklyn Nets.
  287. @TWS
    @Rosie

    Rosie fifteen and under are boys. Men keep improving and growing into their twenties and thirties.

    Being female I can't expect you to understand that. If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you'd see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women's run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men's 60 to 65 years old. That means in plain terms that 4/5ths of women need to pass the test at the same rate as men.

    Replies: @ATate, @Rosie, @prosa123, @S. Anonyia

    Rosie fifteen and under are boys.

    No, they are not boys. They are adolescents, in other words, they have already begun the transition to manhood and are already bigger and stronger than adult women, and therefore it is not really a fair match in terms of skill.

    One doesn’t match a featherweight against a heavyweight, not because featherweights aren’t skilled boxers, but because they have a size-strength advantage.

    Now, does that advantage mean that only heavyweight boxers are any good? Does it mean that nobody should care about lighter weight class competitions? Does it mean that these weight classes are less interesting/instructive/inspiring to watch? Why should that be so?

    Indeed, though less skilled, some people say women’s chess is more fun to watch, because we don’t care so much about winning that we’re unwilling to take any risks. Male grandmaster chess is often dull because they draw so often. Dramatic checkmates are rare.

    https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/must-confess-i-really-enjoy-watching-womens-chess

    I personally don’t care if male athletes get paid more. Most people who pay to watch sports are men, and they want to watch other men. Fine. That doesn’t mean you have to be an a$$hole and deliberately minimize and belittle women’s accomplishments.

    Personally, I think women athletes should market themselves to larger families that can’t afford 50 bucks a ticket and let the men price themselves out of the market if they so desire.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Trinity
    @Rosie

    Actually the middleweight division of boxing is considered by many as the top division in boxing at least when it comes to producing all time greats. The middleweights are large enough to produce some power but light enough to retain the speed, reflexes and stamina of the smaller fighters. Some of boxing's greatest names fought at middleweight, Ray Robinson, Carlos Monzon, Marvin Hagler, Freddie Steele, Jake LaMotta, Tony Zale, Mickey Walker, Harry Greb, Sam Langford, Bernard Hopkins, Gennady Golovkin, Tiger Flowers, etc. The middleweight division has been called, the thoroughbreds of boxing. Sure, the heavyweight division is boxing's glamour division but the middleweight division has produced better fighters than any other division by far. Guys like Mickey Walker and Harry Greb would beat heavyweights while weighing under 170lbs. Walker even fought former heavyweight champion Jack Sharkey to a draw while weighing only 170lbs. Bob Fitzsimmons who won world titles at heavyweight, middleweight and light heavyweight never weighed more than 170lbs or so and only weighed 167lbs when he won the heavyweight title. Yet Fitzsimmons packed a punch capable of knocking 200lb men stiff.

    , @TWS
    @Rosie

    Rosie, if anyone is minimizing women's accomplishments it's women*. And fourteen** and under goes down to eleven year olds. You're telling me strong independent women get beaten by eleven year old boys?

    Don't you think a woman getting her ass handed to her by boys is humiliating enough without you needing to make more excuses?

    Fourteen year old boys dominate women, isn't that a clue? Do you think any men's team would get trounced by boys age fourteen to eleven?

    *You are aware there are no weigh classes in soccer?

    **Just for your benefit I spelled it out for you. I'd hate to think you mistook fourteen for forty-one or even fifteen as you did this time.

  288. @kihowi
    @Rosie

    You keep saying that, but you're not naming all those other competitive areas where success can be established objectively, that men engage in in great enough numbers, but women clearly are much better at.

    (This may seem like a lot of qualifiers, but otherwise we'd get things like "we're better at emotional connections" and stuff like that)

    Replies: @Rosie

    You keep saying that, but you’re not naming all those other competitive areas where success can be established objectively, that men engage in in great enough numbers, but women clearly are much better at.

    Women are more likely to graduate from high school than men.
    Women are more likely to graduate from college than men.
    Women are less likely to wind up in jail than men.
    Women are less likely to kill themselves than men.
    Women are less likely to die of a drug overdose than men.
    Women are less likely to kill someone, accidentally or on purpose, than men.

    All these things can be objectively measured.

    This may seem like a lot of qualifiers,

    Indeed.

    but otherwise we’d get things like “we’re better at emotional connections” and stuff like that)

    Right. You’re setting up the debate precisely so that the outcome is determined: men are superior.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    "Women are more likely to graduate from high school than men.
    Women are more likely to graduate from college than men."

    This is not due to natural circumstances and has only become true very recently. The social culture, including the public education system of the last 50 years has been promoting females and demoting males. I'll give you a related measurable occurrence: Prepubescent boys are way more likely to medicated than prepubescent girls, for the high crime of being boys without access to adequate time to engage in physical activity. So hyperactive boys are punished with ritalin. Boys are also now harshly punished for exploring their very natural curiosity for physical confrontation and engagement, as well as other natural curiosities related to exploration. Meanwhile girls are lauded as brave and historic for joining the boy scouts or joining the high school football team. Females enjoy so more privilege these days, the least you can do is graduate high school.

    The rest of your examples save the last one are also the result of social engineering, not nature.

    The last one well, not really sure that's necessarily a good thing for women.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @kihowi
    @Rosie


    Women are less likely to wind up in jail than men.
    Women are less likely to kill themselves than men.
    Women are less likely to die of a drug overdose than men.
    Women are less likely to kill someone, accidentally or on purpose, than men.
     
    That sounds a lot like "having it easy", but I'll be generous. In a way, those are achievements in a competitive arena. Women do indeed not do a lot of the bad things that men will do.

    I was thinking more about things like winning nobel prizes or olympic gold or getting elected or creating business empires, but you'd probably call that unfairly setting up the debate to get men to win.

    Replies: @Buroaker, @Rosie

  289. @TWS
    @Rosie

    Rosie fifteen and under are boys. Men keep improving and growing into their twenties and thirties.

    Being female I can't expect you to understand that. If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you'd see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women's run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men's 60 to 65 years old. That means in plain terms that 4/5ths of women need to pass the test at the same rate as men.

    Replies: @ATate, @Rosie, @prosa123, @S. Anonyia

    If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you’d see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women’s run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men’s 60 to 65 years old.

    Why would tests for police officers and firefighters have men’s 60 to 65 age categories? Any man in that age group would be long retired.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @prosa123

    Cops occasionally transfer.

  290. • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Reg Cæsar

    Savage.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Reg Cæsar

    Your vessel is stopped and making no way through the water?

  291. This is a regular occurrence.

    So what? You can give me all the examples you want. 15 year old males are not “boys” and I assume these were not run of the mill mediocre soccer youth.

  292. @Anon
    @anonymous

    Agree. Indeed, a very important election and post-election. And all we get of Sailer’s journalism is bitchy comments about women’s lack of athletic superiority.

    Replies: @scrivener3, @Currahee

    Yes, see my comment. So much or the information is totally untrustworthy replete with silly suppositions. I know that our Steve has some formidable contacts and I would love to know what they make of this.

  293. @Rosie
    @kihowi


    You keep saying that, but you’re not naming all those other competitive areas where success can be established objectively, that men engage in in great enough numbers, but women clearly are much better at.
     
    Women are more likely to graduate from high school than men.
    Women are more likely to graduate from college than men.
    Women are less likely to wind up in jail than men.
    Women are less likely to kill themselves than men.
    Women are less likely to die of a drug overdose than men.
    Women are less likely to kill someone, accidentally or on purpose, than men.

    All these things can be objectively measured.

    This may seem like a lot of qualifiers,
     
    Indeed.

    but otherwise we’d get things like “we’re better at emotional connections” and stuff like that)
     
    Right. You're setting up the debate precisely so that the outcome is determined: men are superior.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @kihowi

    “Women are more likely to graduate from high school than men.
    Women are more likely to graduate from college than men.”

    This is not due to natural circumstances and has only become true very recently. The social culture, including the public education system of the last 50 years has been promoting females and demoting males. I’ll give you a related measurable occurrence: Prepubescent boys are way more likely to medicated than prepubescent girls, for the high crime of being boys without access to adequate time to engage in physical activity. So hyperactive boys are punished with ritalin. Boys are also now harshly punished for exploring their very natural curiosity for physical confrontation and engagement, as well as other natural curiosities related to exploration. Meanwhile girls are lauded as brave and historic for joining the boy scouts or joining the high school football team. Females enjoy so more privilege these days, the least you can do is graduate high school.

    The rest of your examples save the last one are also the result of social engineering, not nature.

    The last one well, not really sure that’s necessarily a good thing for women.

    • Agree: Alden
    • LOL: Rosie
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Mike Tre

    You’re absolutely right about the discrimination against boys and men. The entire feminazi movement was a project of the capitalist pigs to lower wages to subsistence level. And they’ve succeeded very well.

    The feminazis were just the front group. Affirmative action against White men was done by White men who were presidents senators governors and most of all, judges.

    Most unacceptable things men do, drunk druggies , dropping out of high school, imprisonment etc are done by black, not White men. White men have been reduced to the status of untouchables.

    Every civil war and and revolution has been elites against other elites. But this war against White men has been a war of all the elites in every possible sector against White men.

  294. @Rosie
    @TWS


    Rosie fifteen and under are boys.
     
    No, they are not boys. They are adolescents, in other words, they have already begun the transition to manhood and are already bigger and stronger than adult women, and therefore it is not really a fair match in terms of skill.

    One doesn't match a featherweight against a heavyweight, not because featherweights aren't skilled boxers, but because they have a size-strength advantage.

    Now, does that advantage mean that only heavyweight boxers are any good? Does it mean that nobody should care about lighter weight class competitions? Does it mean that these weight classes are less interesting/instructive/inspiring to watch? Why should that be so?

    Indeed, though less skilled, some people say women's chess is more fun to watch, because we don't care so much about winning that we're unwilling to take any risks. Male grandmaster chess is often dull because they draw so often. Dramatic checkmates are rare.

    https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/must-confess-i-really-enjoy-watching-womens-chess

    I personally don't care if male athletes get paid more. Most people who pay to watch sports are men, and they want to watch other men. Fine. That doesn't mean you have to be an a$$hole and deliberately minimize and belittle women's accomplishments.

    Personally, I think women athletes should market themselves to larger families that can't afford 50 bucks a ticket and let the men price themselves out of the market if they so desire.

    Replies: @Trinity, @TWS

    Actually the middleweight division of boxing is considered by many as the top division in boxing at least when it comes to producing all time greats. The middleweights are large enough to produce some power but light enough to retain the speed, reflexes and stamina of the smaller fighters. Some of boxing’s greatest names fought at middleweight, Ray Robinson, Carlos Monzon, Marvin Hagler, Freddie Steele, Jake LaMotta, Tony Zale, Mickey Walker, Harry Greb, Sam Langford, Bernard Hopkins, Gennady Golovkin, Tiger Flowers, etc. The middleweight division has been called, the thoroughbreds of boxing. Sure, the heavyweight division is boxing’s glamour division but the middleweight division has produced better fighters than any other division by far. Guys like Mickey Walker and Harry Greb would beat heavyweights while weighing under 170lbs. Walker even fought former heavyweight champion Jack Sharkey to a draw while weighing only 170lbs. Bob Fitzsimmons who won world titles at heavyweight, middleweight and light heavyweight never weighed more than 170lbs or so and only weighed 167lbs when he won the heavyweight title. Yet Fitzsimmons packed a punch capable of knocking 200lb men stiff.

  295. @Mike Tre
    @AndrewR

    Well my first reply to you was apparently flushed by our free speech loving host. It was pretty benign but I guess it all depends on how he's feeling at the moment of moderation.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Well make it benigner so I can see it lol

  296. @Squid
    @James Braxton

    No way. No black leather jacket, no Joey Ramone.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Agreed. Plus, if Joey had ever shown up to a rehearsal or gig in an orange shirt and white pants, Johnny would have beaten him to within an inch of his life.

  297. @Clemsnman
    Whenever the argument about whether or not any given sports' competitors are actually athletes or not, the best way to determine the required athleticism is whether or not a man over 40 or any woman can compete anywhere close to the best men.

    Ergo, auto racing is a sport that does not require one to be an actual athlete, even if it has physical demands.
    No old man or woman will ever compete in the 100m with the best men. Nor compete in the pole vault, or play running back, linebacker, WR, db, etc in the NFL, or other strenuous sports that require speed, strength, agility, etc.

    One silver lining from the trans-nonsense might be that wimmins sports go away, except for the ones that some people might actually like to watch.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    How are women’s sports going away a good thing when the U.S has insane obesity rates? Here in flyover country, virtually the ONLY women who remain normal weight post 30 are ex-athletes and other exercise fanatics. Women aren’t going to magically start walking everywhere like they do in Europe. I hate the insane emphasis we place on sports in this country (particularly football), but overall amateur sports are a net positive including for women.

    Also female athletes (generally) have a more realistic view of what women are physically capable of than ordinary women. And ironically in certain sports they are better than many typical men, though they will never remotely approach the ability levels of trained men. Take 5ks/10ks- I run them often and beat a fair amount of men my age and older, including men with similarly sporadic weekly mileage. I don’t beat many of the teenage boys who decide to participate, however, nor do I expect to. Most of the “you go girl” comments about this underwhelming kick came from women whose only exercise is getting off the couch occasionally. As for why Sarah Fuller herself participated in the charade, maybe she was overconfident following her SEC soccer title, and got talked into it by the former head football coach?

    Also I’ve never met an actual athletic man who wanted the end of women’s sport, the only exception being very embittered ex-wrestlers.

    • Replies: @Clemsnman
    @S. Anonyia

    //How are women’s sports going away a good thing when the U.S has insane obesity rates? //

    Anonyia,

    In a sane world, I would have no problem with wimmin sports. But with Title IX, feminism, and people feeling the need to give actual scientific analysis of how men and women are different (also, water is wet, fire is hot, and the sun rises in the East - pretty much every day) all that makes me sick of the whole charade.

    How was it that back in the day women neither played sports nor got fat?

    , @Bel Riose
    @S. Anonyia

    Why did the ex-wrestlers have a different opinion?

  298. @TWS
    @Rosie

    Rosie fifteen and under are boys. Men keep improving and growing into their twenties and thirties.

    Being female I can't expect you to understand that. If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you'd see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women's run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men's 60 to 65 years old. That means in plain terms that 4/5ths of women need to pass the test at the same rate as men.

    Replies: @ATate, @Rosie, @prosa123, @S. Anonyia

    Not universally true. I took the police exam in my city because I was afraid I couldn’t get a teaching job. Got a teaching job about a month later so it ended up a totally unnecessary exploit, but I got harassed for next 1.5 years to interview for officer positions in both the city and surrounding municipalities. Men and women had to meet the same standards. It was the equivalent of a 10 minute mile for 1.5 miles, x number of push-ups, fence jumping etc. Only 3 women took it but all of those that did passed. Also there were identical standards across age groups.

    You’re thinking of the military where there are different standards.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @S. Anonyia

    No I'm not thinking of the military. Admittedly the last year I took was almost twenty years ago but it was universal for every place. You do not need separate standards if enough women pass the regular standard.

  299. @Voltarde
    You're asking the wrong question, but very close to asking the right one!

    Given dysgenic declining birth rates in virtually all economically developed countries, a better question from an HBD perspective is: Which sport is the best dating sport?

    The best dating sport is badminton.

    1) Simple: Low-cost equipment and no-fuss rules.
    2) Satisfying: Easy to reach a skill level that's enjoyable (like love itself).
    3) Durable: Lifelong sport (like ideal love).
    4) Equitable: Enjoyable by average-build non-athletes (e.g., nerds).
    5) Artistic: Can be graceful and often dramatic.
    6) Intelligent: Clever girl can teach unsuspecting guy some well-needed humility.
    7) Strategic: High success rate when asking a girl for a first date.
    8) Insightful: Revealing about your date's personality (and other attributes).

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Anonymous

    You obviously never played badminton above backyard recreational level.

    When quantified carefully, competition-level badminton is the most physically demanding game, easily topping hockey, tennis, basketball or soccer.

    Fittingly for a game that has a lot to do with reaction time, badminton is dominated by East Asians and North Europeans.

  300. @Rosie
    @kihowi


    You keep saying that, but you’re not naming all those other competitive areas where success can be established objectively, that men engage in in great enough numbers, but women clearly are much better at.
     
    Women are more likely to graduate from high school than men.
    Women are more likely to graduate from college than men.
    Women are less likely to wind up in jail than men.
    Women are less likely to kill themselves than men.
    Women are less likely to die of a drug overdose than men.
    Women are less likely to kill someone, accidentally or on purpose, than men.

    All these things can be objectively measured.

    This may seem like a lot of qualifiers,
     
    Indeed.

    but otherwise we’d get things like “we’re better at emotional connections” and stuff like that)
     
    Right. You're setting up the debate precisely so that the outcome is determined: men are superior.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @kihowi

    Women are less likely to wind up in jail than men.
    Women are less likely to kill themselves than men.
    Women are less likely to die of a drug overdose than men.
    Women are less likely to kill someone, accidentally or on purpose, than men.

    That sounds a lot like “having it easy”, but I’ll be generous. In a way, those are achievements in a competitive arena. Women do indeed not do a lot of the bad things that men will do.

    I was thinking more about things like winning nobel prizes or olympic gold or getting elected or creating business empires, but you’d probably call that unfairly setting up the debate to get men to win.

    • Replies: @Buroaker
    @kihowi

    Pickleball is

    the new Badminton

    , @Rosie
    @kihowi


    I was thinking more about things like winning nobel prizes or olympic gold or getting elected or creating business empires, but you’d probably call that unfairly setting up the debate to get men to win.
     
    It is precisely that. You start with the premise that masculine values are superior and then you end up with the conclusion that men are superior. (Of course, any woman who values and pursues these things would be repugnant to you, I'm sure, but never mind that.)

    You also refuse to acknowledge that men are more likely to be impulsive, antisocial, reckless, and violent.
  301. @Colin Wright
    @Buffalo Joe

    'Colin, thank you for the reply, but the Japanese basically ran out of pilots and never, to my knowledge, trained women as replacements.'

    However, Japanese losses were never that great in terms of raw manpower. There were always male recruits to be had.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @J.Ross, @Wielgus

    Colin, we could go back and forth all day on this, but it is consensus that Japan ran out of pilots. Training to be a combat pilot is extensive and dangerous. The US lost 20,000 plus WWII recruits killed in stateside flight training. Japan’s navy needed carrier pilots, requiring the most rigorous skills and training. That’s why they went with Kamikaze pilots, no need to learn to return and land on a carrier. Stay safe.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Buffalo Joe


    The US lost 20,000 plus WWII recruits killed in stateside flight training.
     
    Interesting. I assumed this had to be inflated by a factor of 10, but apparently it's mostly right!

    I forget both how dangerous flying used to be as well as how huge WW2 was...

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/forgotten-history-13000-americans-died-while-training-fight-world-war-ii-167332

    Replies: @vhrm

  302. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes. You seem salty AF.

    Replies: @Rosie, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes.

    I’m not at all sure men are better at “most things.” As Steve said, things men are better at tend to be made into competitive activities.

    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women’s ability to bear children, none of you would exist.

    You seem salty AF.

    Thanks for noticing.

    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    And without men's ability to produce sperm cells, you wouldn't exist either, dummy. Where do you think one of your X chromossomes came from? The only thinf women are superior to men is that they carry a higher burden in reproduction since gestation is done by females, and that women are longer-lived than men. But gestation and longevity are the only ways in which women are superior to men.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Don't Look at Me
    @Rosie

    Great point. So why aren't the white ones taking pride in their abilities.

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Rosie

    salty AF, and a whole lotta woman...

    Replies: @anon

    , @AnotherDad
    @Rosie


    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women’s ability to bear children, none of you would exist.
     
    Exactly.

    Women excel at bearing children--and nursing and nurturing them. They are biologically evolved to do precisely that.

    Men are stronger, smarter (analytically), more interested in the material world, and more aggressive and competitive--they need to be the sort of man that the cutest/most fertile girls are interested in (i.e. fitness display). Again, they are biologically evolved to be this way.

    In short, men and women are ... complementary.


    The current problem is essentially that a bunch of women--having drunk from the feminist well--now deny this complementarity. They deny the natural male superiority in a whole host of physical and mental tasks that create both our material prosperity and freedom and the rule-of-law ... civilization itself. They think "Women could do it just as well. Women could do it better!"

    Now so removed from actual production, huge numbers of women trudge through life with nary a clue about all the creative and productive effort that men have done and do--that makes their cell phone turn on, their furnace put out heat, keeps the fridge cool and gets hot water to show up in the shower. Rather than being grateful and appreciate men's natural inclination toward such "boring" stuff ... they bitch and whine, whine and bitch ... as they are so oppressed.

    As a result, there's a pretty precipitous drop in white babies. A lot of guys facing this, think "no thanks". And then the women whine "where are the good men?"

    Replies: @Rosie

  303. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes. You seem salty AF.

    Replies: @Rosie, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    “You seem salty AF.”

    Her name is Rosie. Saltiness is a given.

  304. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes.
     
    I'm not at all sure men are better at "most things." As Steve said, things men are better at tend to be made into competitive activities.

    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women's ability to bear children, none of you would exist.


    You seem salty AF.
     
    Thanks for noticing.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson, @Don't Look at Me, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad

    And without men’s ability to produce sperm cells, you wouldn’t exist either, dummy. Where do you think one of your X chromossomes came from? The only thinf women are superior to men is that they carry a higher burden in reproduction since gestation is done by females, and that women are longer-lived than men. But gestation and longevity are the only ways in which women are superior to men.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    And without men’s ability to produce sperm cells, you wouldn’t exist either, dummy.
     
    Right, and you are expendable because sperm is cheap. You don't see women gloating like obnoxious children about it, do you? Well, I am, of course, but only because you've repeatedly asked for it.

    But gestation and longevity are the only ways in which women are superior to men.
     
    That and the fact that we don't wantonly rob, kill, and maim others as you lot are prone to do.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

  305. Eagle Eye says:
    @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    This one is easily debunked.

    PA sent out 3 million mail in ballots for the general election.

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

    The 1.8 million Mastriano is referring to is from the _primary_ election.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz

    Now why would someone want to try to confuse the primary election with the general election?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @Eagle Eye

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

    Github is owned and controlled by Bill Gates’s Microsoft.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz

    Government Efficiency – Citizen Engagement” – such a relief to see that propaganda tactics have NO PLACE in the running of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania which is in the hands of only the most sober, serious and sage women and men of established character.

  306. @Ben tillman
    @couch scientist

    I always get a kick out of seeing “Mennonite cheese” on a menu. If goat cheese comes from goats, then . . . .

    Replies: @Don't Look at Me

    I get the same kick when I see “Oriental Flavored Ramen.” If chicken flavored ramen tastes like chicken and shrimp flavored Ramen tastes like shrimp, then ….

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Don't Look at Me

    “Oriental Flavored Ramen.”... I bet Maury Povich knows the answer to that.

    Replies: @additionalMike

  307. @black sea
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    1. Weird, incongruous. or simply made-up names.

    2. Motorists refusing to cooperate when stopped by police.

    3. Motorists fleeing and ignoring police commands to stop the vehicle.

    4. Motorists being shot by police officers.

    5. Mourners carrying guns to a burial ceremony.

    6. Failure to adequately secure gun, leading to "accidental discharge."

    7. Accidentally shooting oneself.

    8. Accidentally shooting innocent bystanders.

    9. Refusing to cooperate in a shooting investigation (of one's own shooting).

    10. No inclusion of the word "father" anywhere in the article.

    Bonus Theme: Mourner's clothing emblazoned with photos of the deceased.


    I guess I underestimated.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Buffalo Joe

    black sea, the funeral of every shooting victim in the hood is sure to have tee shirts with the victim’s photo and mylar balloons. Some where nearby will be a curbside “Shrine” with flowers, candles, stuffed animals and a few empty 40s.

  308. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes.
     
    I'm not at all sure men are better at "most things." As Steve said, things men are better at tend to be made into competitive activities.

    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women's ability to bear children, none of you would exist.


    You seem salty AF.
     
    Thanks for noticing.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson, @Don't Look at Me, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad

    Great point. So why aren’t the white ones taking pride in their abilities.

  309. @Danindc
    @Russ

    Joe Rogan said she could beat some top-tier male mma bantamweights. I couldn’t believe it when I heard it. How could someone immersed in the sport be so stupid?

    He later recanted but he lost 1 listener forever. Now he only has 14, 999,999 subscribers to his podcast.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @additionalMike

    Dan, I never understood the Rhonda Rousey hype. ESPN and SI called her the greatest female athlete ever. What? She had 11 bouts. Then she entered the octagon with Holly Hahn, lights out, a true beat down. Her return match against I forgot whom also ended with her being knocked out. Greatest hype since Ali as the number one athlete ever,. Not even the best boxer every.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Buffalo Joe

    "Dan, I never understood the Rhonda Rousey hype. "

    She was a media creation. Totally overrated.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @Buffalo Joe

    Holly Holm was the one that beat her, badly, prior to that Dana White was claiming she could defeat Floyd Mayweather Jr. in MMA, pure insanity. I had a hard time believing he actually believed that himself, but there were certainly people out there who bought it.

  310. anon[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rockford Tyson
    - Distance swimming

    - Table tenis.

    - Power walking

    There is also another "sport" where women consistently outdo men: survival. Women live on average 7-8 years more than men, suffer from less infections, have less both congenital as well as acquired chronic diseases. The majority of centenarians are women, and almost all super-centenarians are female. Men's greater upper body strength and endurance comes at the cost of decreased immune function, decreased cellular autophagy(and higher accumulation of misfolded proteins), decreased DNA repair and faster exhaustion of stem cells.

    Tall men are the shortest-lived humans, while short females are the longest-lived on average.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Mike Tre, @anon

    Actually the life span difference at birth is five years, not 7-8. For those who make it to 70 or so, the difference is only about two years. Been looking at stats lately for various reasons. The male life span has actually improved in recent years, probably because of less smoking. More women smoke, at least in certain socio-economic levels. Alcohol is also a factor. The main factor among Russian males.

  311. @Rosie
    @TWS


    Triumphalism? For goodness sake.

    No man can give birth (the adaption for having children accounts for the difference). It seems to me to be more than a fair trade.
     
    I quite agree with you, and women taunting men about their inability to give birth (and claiming that they are inferior on that account) would be every bit as unseemly.

    Replies: @ATate

    women taunting men about their inability to give birth (and claiming that they are inferior on that account) would be every bit as unseemly.

    and then…

    Without women’s ability to bear children, none of you would exist.

    BOOYAH!!!
    Checkmate you misogynistic football players.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @ATate


    women taunting men about their inability to give birth (and claiming that they are inferior on that account) would be every bit as unseemly.
     
    You got me. I should have added:

    Unless of course they're being total jacka$$e$ who deserve it.

    Fixed it. Happy now?
  312. @anon

    In the U.S., equestrian events are becoming almost all Rich Girl-dominated, with close to 90% of competitors lately being female.
     
    Bill Gate's oldest daughter Jennifer Gates is an equestrian. She recently got engaged to her Chicago born Egyptian-American boyfriend who is a professional equestrian. They met while at Stanford.

    A friend once told me that a parent at her daughter's fancy private school donated a horse to Stanford after her daughter was done competing in equestrian. Stanford took the horse then rejected her daughter during admissions, doh! As the NYTimes pointed out, getting in through the side door to these fancy schools these days takes at least 8 figures, the horse donated was only in the 6 figures. I know of Microsoft execs/Stanford alums who donated entire buildings to Stanford to get their kids in.

    How about bowling, ping pong, card games, do women do as well in these?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ScarletNumber

    OneNineNine, my grand daughter, in Bucks County,Pa., is an age group champion equestrian. My daughter has a lease arangement for the horse she rides in competition. The horse can be had for $50,000. A recent horse from the same stable brought $100,000. That to me is serious money. And at the few events I have attended most of the riders were female.

  313. @kihowi
    @Rosie


    Women are less likely to wind up in jail than men.
    Women are less likely to kill themselves than men.
    Women are less likely to die of a drug overdose than men.
    Women are less likely to kill someone, accidentally or on purpose, than men.
     
    That sounds a lot like "having it easy", but I'll be generous. In a way, those are achievements in a competitive arena. Women do indeed not do a lot of the bad things that men will do.

    I was thinking more about things like winning nobel prizes or olympic gold or getting elected or creating business empires, but you'd probably call that unfairly setting up the debate to get men to win.

    Replies: @Buroaker, @Rosie

    Pickleball is

    the new Badminton

  314. @S. Anonyia
    @Clemsnman

    How are women’s sports going away a good thing when the U.S has insane obesity rates? Here in flyover country, virtually the ONLY women who remain normal weight post 30 are ex-athletes and other exercise fanatics. Women aren’t going to magically start walking everywhere like they do in Europe. I hate the insane emphasis we place on sports in this country (particularly football), but overall amateur sports are a net positive including for women.

    Also female athletes (generally) have a more realistic view of what women are physically capable of than ordinary women. And ironically in certain sports they are better than many typical men, though they will never remotely approach the ability levels of trained men. Take 5ks/10ks- I run them often and beat a fair amount of men my age and older, including men with similarly sporadic weekly mileage. I don’t beat many of the teenage boys who decide to participate, however, nor do I expect to. Most of the “you go girl” comments about this underwhelming kick came from women whose only exercise is getting off the couch occasionally. As for why Sarah Fuller herself participated in the charade, maybe she was overconfident following her SEC soccer title, and got talked into it by the former head football coach?

    Also I’ve never met an actual athletic man who wanted the end of women’s sport, the only exception being very embittered ex-wrestlers.

    Replies: @Clemsnman, @Bel Riose

    //How are women’s sports going away a good thing when the U.S has insane obesity rates? //

    Anonyia,

    In a sane world, I would have no problem with wimmin sports. But with Title IX, feminism, and people feeling the need to give actual scientific analysis of how men and women are different (also, water is wet, fire is hot, and the sun rises in the East – pretty much every day) all that makes me sick of the whole charade.

    How was it that back in the day women neither played sports nor got fat?

  315. Anon[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Yancey Ward

    How does ocean swimming work? Do they all compete at once or do they go on different days? You kind of need a boat with a rifleman in case you encounter a shark.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Chrisnonymous, @Yancey Ward, @George Taylor, @Anon

    One of the innumerable Diana Nyad attempts to swim from Cuba to Floridaa ended after she was attacked not by sharks, but by jellyfish. The subsequent attempt had her wearing a jellyfish-proof bodysuit complete with a silicone full-face mask. The mask made her look like the Texas Chainsaw Swamp Thing from the Deep, and was so finicky that her crew had to constantly help her adjust it. This aid apparently was one reason why her final attempt, although she arrived in Florida, was never certified by the international body in question.

  316. Even in competitive pinball in which size and strength do not matter, they had to carve out women’s only competition. Anything you can do I can do better…… what a crock.

  317. Women are much better at having babies … but maybe that is not a sport.

  318. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes. You seem salty AF.

    Replies: @Rosie, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    You seem salty AF.

    It’s a feature of her particular style of trolling. Feel that hook in your lip yet?
    Now, pay more attention to her. MOAR attention! She loves it.

  319. @Don't Look at Me
    @Ben tillman

    I get the same kick when I see "Oriental Flavored Ramen." If chicken flavored ramen tastes like chicken and shrimp flavored Ramen tastes like shrimp, then ....

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    “Oriental Flavored Ramen.”… I bet Maury Povich knows the answer to that.

    • Replies: @additionalMike
    @Ron Mexico

    Good one, Mr. Mexico.

  320. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes.
     
    I'm not at all sure men are better at "most things." As Steve said, things men are better at tend to be made into competitive activities.

    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women's ability to bear children, none of you would exist.


    You seem salty AF.
     
    Thanks for noticing.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson, @Don't Look at Me, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad

    salty AF, and a whole lotta woman…

    • Replies: @anon
    @Ron Mexico

    https://memesboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Oh-Look-An-Internet-White-Knight-White-Meme.jpg

  321. @Kent Nationalist

    Men and women competed against each other in shooting in the Olympics for a while, but have gone back to separate competitions. A Chinese woman won a gold over men in one event in 1992.

     

    In my experience of target shooting (as a hobby), women were better than men.

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @CMP Shooter

    Look up the Tomkins/Gallagher women. Those 3 gals are some of the best shooters in the world. Sherri Gallagher set a record in the NRA National High Power Rifle Championship at Camp Perry that may never be broken (2396-161x for those that are familiar with such events).
    http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/mid-tompkins/

  322. @Ron Mexico
    @Rosie

    salty AF, and a whole lotta woman...

    Replies: @anon

    • LOL: Ron Mexico
  323. @Buffalo Joe
    @Danindc

    Dan, I never understood the Rhonda Rousey hype. ESPN and SI called her the greatest female athlete ever. What? She had 11 bouts. Then she entered the octagon with Holly Hahn, lights out, a true beat down. Her return match against I forgot whom also ended with her being knocked out. Greatest hype since Ali as the number one athlete ever,. Not even the best boxer every.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Unladen Swallow

    “Dan, I never understood the Rhonda Rousey hype. ”

    She was a media creation. Totally overrated.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Corvinus

    Corvi, you are 100% correct, but I never understood why. Stay safe.

  324. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    And without men's ability to produce sperm cells, you wouldn't exist either, dummy. Where do you think one of your X chromossomes came from? The only thinf women are superior to men is that they carry a higher burden in reproduction since gestation is done by females, and that women are longer-lived than men. But gestation and longevity are the only ways in which women are superior to men.

    Replies: @Rosie

    And without men’s ability to produce sperm cells, you wouldn’t exist either, dummy.

    Right, and you are expendable because sperm is cheap. You don’t see women gloating like obnoxious children about it, do you? Well, I am, of course, but only because you’ve repeatedly asked for it.

    But gestation and longevity are the only ways in which women are superior to men.

    That and the fact that we don’t wantonly rob, kill, and maim others as you lot are prone to do.

    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "Right, and you are expendable because sperm is cheap. You don’t see women gloating like obnoxious children about it, do you? Well, I am, of course, but only because you’ve repeatedly asked for it."

    I think your dad's sperm was very cheap to result in a creature such as you. You are loathsome. The cheapness of men, which you gloat about not even realizing that this is exactly what makes men superior and why your lot will always be at our mercy, is what makes us so much stronger and smarter than you. Because we have to compete to make the case of our value before the World, we evolved to be stronger and smarter than you. For every good female athelet, there are 100 great male athletes. For every smart woman, there are 100 super-smart men.

    I am expandable? Quite the opposite, you trollop. I am far more necessary than you. Whether you have kids or not, which is the only talent that you have as a female, is irrelevant to the World. You feel so special because your eggs are more valuable than sperm. Well, they are not. You are clearly very mediocre, even for a woman. You are far, far more expendable than me, because I have degrees in chemistry and engineering, and I actually contribute to the World. But even IF your eggs made you so valuable, it would be a very "cheap" value: the value of a breeding cow.

    So congratulations and gloat about the value that you have, which is that of a breeding animal.

    "That and the fact that we don’t wantonly rob, kill, and maim others as you lot are prone to do."

    Men are superior at everything, including at killing people. Greatness, unfortunately, applies all-around. Einstein was a genius, and his equation allowed for the atomic bomb, which would kill billions of people. Greatness can be used for good or for evil.The difference is, men actually have the option, Women don't, You cannot achieve or accomplish anything.

    You are mediocre even for a female. Your condescencion is completely ridiculous.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Alden, @Bardon Kaldian

  325. @prosa123
    @TWS

    If there was any real overlap between male and female abilities you’d see similar tests for police and firefighters. Instead the tests are entirely different with zero overlap. The last test I took, the women’s run time for 20 to 29 years was slower than the men’s 60 to 65 years old.

    Why would tests for police officers and firefighters have men's 60 to 65 age categories? Any man in that age group would be long retired.

    Replies: @TWS

    Cops occasionally transfer.

  326. @ATate
    @Rosie


    women taunting men about their inability to give birth (and claiming that they are inferior on that account) would be every bit as unseemly.
     
    and then...

    @Rosie


    Without women’s ability to bear children, none of you would exist.
     
    BOOYAH!!!
    Checkmate you misogynistic football players.

    Replies: @Rosie

    women taunting men about their inability to give birth (and claiming that they are inferior on that account) would be every bit as unseemly.

    You got me. I should have added:

    Unless of course they’re being total jacka$$e$ who deserve it.

    Fixed it. Happy now?

  327. @anon
    @Hypnotoad666

    The Trump Team is probably making a mistake by throwing every allegation off the internet against the wall.

    That isn't what they are doing. Not even close. You are misinformed.

    Let's all wait to see what the Pennsylvania assembly does this week, and also if the Georgia judge actually impounds all the voting machines in that state before they are wiped clean.

    Also, let's all recall this Federal law.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/20701


    Every officer of election shall retain and preserve, for a period of twenty-two months from the date of any general, special, or primary election of which candidates for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, or Resident Commissioner from the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico are voted for, all records and papers which come into his possession relating to any application, registration, payment of poll tax, or other act requisite to voting in such election, except that, when required by law, such records and papers may be delivered to another officer of election and except that, if a State or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico designates a custodian to retain and preserve these records and papers at a specified place, then such records and papers may be deposited with such custodian, and the duty to retain and preserve any record or paper so deposited shall devolve upon such custodian. Any officer of election or custodian who willfully fails to comply with this section shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
     
    And this Executive Order:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

    It's only been 26 days since the election. Homeland Security has more time to investigate electoral issues and irregularities.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Hypnotoad666

    Homeland Security has more time to investigate electoral issues and irregularities.

    But they are part of the Deep State that probably pulled off this heist in the first place. And finding fraud is “dangerous for our democracy.”

  328. @S. Anonyia
    @TWS

    Not universally true. I took the police exam in my city because I was afraid I couldn’t get a teaching job. Got a teaching job about a month later so it ended up a totally unnecessary exploit, but I got harassed for next 1.5 years to interview for officer positions in both the city and surrounding municipalities. Men and women had to meet the same standards. It was the equivalent of a 10 minute mile for 1.5 miles, x number of push-ups, fence jumping etc. Only 3 women took it but all of those that did passed. Also there were identical standards across age groups.

    You’re thinking of the military where there are different standards.

    Replies: @TWS

    No I’m not thinking of the military. Admittedly the last year I took was almost twenty years ago but it was universal for every place. You do not need separate standards if enough women pass the regular standard.

  329. There appears to be a golden ratio in racing sports that predicts how men and women compare. It’s 90%, give or take.

    I suppose seconds count when you’re running away from a sabre-tooth tiger, but in the scheme of things, I’m not even sure the difference would be apparent to an observer without a stopwatch.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    @Rosie

    So the women made out better in the 1500 meter swim which is more of an endurance test. Interestingly the women did the poorest next to men in the 100 meter butterfly which has the be the hardest swim stroke.

    Odd that the women did better in the 100 meter run than in any other short race whether it be by land or sea or in this case, the pool. I would have figured the weaker sex would have performed more poorly in the 10o & 400 meters instead of the middle distance runs of 1500 meter and 5k.

    So the women were relatively weakest in middle distance runs and swimming sprints. Proves that women are indeed weaker in upper body strength, which isn't exactly a surprise to anyone. This goes back to the female powerlifter Stefi Cohen who I brought up earlier. Her deadlift and squat are competitive with all but the elite male powerlifters in her class, but her bench press is not much better than the average smaller gym rat. Kind of hard to find a 125lb male at the gym unless they are very short, but I am sure after 6 months to a year of regular training and practicing the bench press 2-3 times a week, even someone that size would be capable of benching 225lbs. And that would be natural without any steroids or other PEDs.

    So it looks like women fare better in lower body strength and endurance when matched up against men.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Ron Mexico

  330. @Father O'Hara
    @anonymous

    If I know the Dear Leader,he has put up this woman stuff to gain time as he researches an ass kicking post about Trump.
    You hear that sh*t about the Delta Force shooting it out with the CIA?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Corn, @Corvinus

    “You hear that sh*t about the Delta Force shooting it out with the CIA?”

    I look forward to you proving that this event happened given your credentials.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @Corvinus

    My son, tbh I dont believe it,but I have heard a lot about Dominion voting machines sending voting info to the Frankfurt servers.
    There seems to be yuge voting irregularities.
    I have been following this on Vox,but he seems to believe anything. He is now suggesting that that Haspel woman,the head of the CIA,was shot during the above battle and is now sadly taking a dirt nap.
    We need the varsity on this one. Our Dear Leader,Sailer!!

    Replies: @Alden, @Corvinus

  331. @Rosie
    @TWS


    Rosie fifteen and under are boys.
     
    No, they are not boys. They are adolescents, in other words, they have already begun the transition to manhood and are already bigger and stronger than adult women, and therefore it is not really a fair match in terms of skill.

    One doesn't match a featherweight against a heavyweight, not because featherweights aren't skilled boxers, but because they have a size-strength advantage.

    Now, does that advantage mean that only heavyweight boxers are any good? Does it mean that nobody should care about lighter weight class competitions? Does it mean that these weight classes are less interesting/instructive/inspiring to watch? Why should that be so?

    Indeed, though less skilled, some people say women's chess is more fun to watch, because we don't care so much about winning that we're unwilling to take any risks. Male grandmaster chess is often dull because they draw so often. Dramatic checkmates are rare.

    https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/must-confess-i-really-enjoy-watching-womens-chess

    I personally don't care if male athletes get paid more. Most people who pay to watch sports are men, and they want to watch other men. Fine. That doesn't mean you have to be an a$$hole and deliberately minimize and belittle women's accomplishments.

    Personally, I think women athletes should market themselves to larger families that can't afford 50 bucks a ticket and let the men price themselves out of the market if they so desire.

    Replies: @Trinity, @TWS

    Rosie, if anyone is minimizing women’s accomplishments it’s women*. And fourteen** and under goes down to eleven year olds. You’re telling me strong independent women get beaten by eleven year old boys?

    Don’t you think a woman getting her ass handed to her by boys is humiliating enough without you needing to make more excuses?

    Fourteen year old boys dominate women, isn’t that a clue? Do you think any men’s team would get trounced by boys age fourteen to eleven?

    *You are aware there are no weigh classes in soccer?

    **Just for your benefit I spelled it out for you. I’d hate to think you mistook fourteen for forty-one or even fifteen as you did this time.

  332. @Colin Wright
    @Buffalo Joe

    'Colin, thank you for the reply, but the Japanese basically ran out of pilots and never, to my knowledge, trained women as replacements.'

    However, Japanese losses were never that great in terms of raw manpower. There were always male recruits to be had.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @J.Ross, @Wielgus

    That’s okay reasoning for infantry but not for a fighter pilot. Also, they were running out of everything else, and completely outclassed by Yank innovation.

  333. @Reg Cæsar
    https://www.theflagshop.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/c/scotland-flag-std_1.jpg

    Replies: @J.Ross, @ScarletNumber

    Savage.

  334. @Rosie
    There appears to be a golden ratio in racing sports that predicts how men and women compare. It's 90%, give or take.

    I suppose seconds count when you're running away from a sabre-tooth tiger, but in the scheme of things, I'm not even sure the difference would be apparent to an observer without a stopwatch.

    https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/PerformanceRatio_615.jpg

    Replies: @Trinity

    So the women made out better in the 1500 meter swim which is more of an endurance test. Interestingly the women did the poorest next to men in the 100 meter butterfly which has the be the hardest swim stroke.

    Odd that the women did better in the 100 meter run than in any other short race whether it be by land or sea or in this case, the pool. I would have figured the weaker sex would have performed more poorly in the 10o & 400 meters instead of the middle distance runs of 1500 meter and 5k.

    So the women were relatively weakest in middle distance runs and swimming sprints. Proves that women are indeed weaker in upper body strength, which isn’t exactly a surprise to anyone. This goes back to the female powerlifter Stefi Cohen who I brought up earlier. Her deadlift and squat are competitive with all but the elite male powerlifters in her class, but her bench press is not much better than the average smaller gym rat. Kind of hard to find a 125lb male at the gym unless they are very short, but I am sure after 6 months to a year of regular training and practicing the bench press 2-3 times a week, even someone that size would be capable of benching 225lbs. And that would be natural without any steroids or other PEDs.

    So it looks like women fare better in lower body strength and endurance when matched up against men.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Trinity


    Odd that the women did better in the 100 meter run than in any other short race whether it be by land or sea or in this case, the pool. I would have figured the weaker sex would have performed more poorly in the 10o & 400 meters instead of the middle distance runs of 1500 meter and 5k.
     
    In any event, the difference is less than I would have expected. I would imagine that height accounts for some of it as well. All else equal, the person with the longer legs runs faster. In swimming, tall people have an advantage because they can reach the wall sooner.

    Replies: @Trinity

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Trinity

    The 100m sprint and 400m sprint times for the women should have giant asterisks (FloJo only woman ever under 10.6 and Marita Koch GDR and Jarmila Kratochvilova CZE only women ever under 48) all in the 1980s. Jarmila also set the ridiculous 800m record of 1:53.28 that the hermaphrodite Caster Semenya is still a whole second behind.

    Replies: @Alden

  335. @Corvinus
    @Buffalo Joe

    "Dan, I never understood the Rhonda Rousey hype. "

    She was a media creation. Totally overrated.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Corvi, you are 100% correct, but I never understood why. Stay safe.

  336. @Bardon Kaldian
    @LadyTheo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27FfrD5ZzI

    Replies: @LadyTheo

    Julia “Hurricane” Hawkins. I love it.

  337. @Rosie
    @Bardon Kaldian


    By the way- is it just my perception, or most real life lesbians, with very few exceptions, are ugly as hell?
     
    It's just that you don't know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You'd be surprised.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Colin Wright, @Mike Tre, @AKAHorace

    It’s just that you don’t know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You’d be surprised.

    A lot of good looking women swing both ways.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @AKAHorace


    A lot of good looking women swing both ways.
     
    Yep. According to male choice hypothesis, lesbianism may have been selected for as cuckold-prevention strategy. Lesbian tendencies appear to be rather widespread in the female population, as measured by porn consumption and patterns of arousal.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0957-x
  338. @kihowi
    @Rosie


    Women are less likely to wind up in jail than men.
    Women are less likely to kill themselves than men.
    Women are less likely to die of a drug overdose than men.
    Women are less likely to kill someone, accidentally or on purpose, than men.
     
    That sounds a lot like "having it easy", but I'll be generous. In a way, those are achievements in a competitive arena. Women do indeed not do a lot of the bad things that men will do.

    I was thinking more about things like winning nobel prizes or olympic gold or getting elected or creating business empires, but you'd probably call that unfairly setting up the debate to get men to win.

    Replies: @Buroaker, @Rosie

    I was thinking more about things like winning nobel prizes or olympic gold or getting elected or creating business empires, but you’d probably call that unfairly setting up the debate to get men to win.

    It is precisely that. You start with the premise that masculine values are superior and then you end up with the conclusion that men are superior. (Of course, any woman who values and pursues these things would be repugnant to you, I’m sure, but never mind that.)

    You also refuse to acknowledge that men are more likely to be impulsive, antisocial, reckless, and violent.

  339. @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    I hear, if you wear a MAGA body suit, the sharks want nothing to do with you. It's called "shark repugnant".

    My guess is that in the cold of long distance ocean swims, women's extra subcutaneous fat gives them an advantage.

    Replies: @Red Pill Angel

    Chrisnonymous: My guess is that in the cold of long distance ocean swims, women’s extra subcutaneous fat gives them an advantage.

    That was always thought to be true, and in the past lady channel swimmers seemed to be somewhat chubbier than competitive athletes now, but all their fat was very evenly distributed, like seals. One swimmer said in an interview that they were supposed to put on fat before a long swim. It’s probably a very slow-twitch sport, too.

  340. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    Men are better at MOST things. So OVERALL, men are better, yes.
     
    I'm not at all sure men are better at "most things." As Steve said, things men are better at tend to be made into competitive activities.

    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women's ability to bear children, none of you would exist.


    You seem salty AF.
     
    Thanks for noticing.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson, @Don't Look at Me, @Ron Mexico, @AnotherDad

    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women’s ability to bear children, none of you would exist.

    Exactly.

    Women excel at bearing children–and nursing and nurturing them. They are biologically evolved to do precisely that.

    Men are stronger, smarter (analytically), more interested in the material world, and more aggressive and competitive–they need to be the sort of man that the cutest/most fertile girls are interested in (i.e. fitness display). Again, they are biologically evolved to be this way.

    In short, men and women are … complementary.

    The current problem is essentially that a bunch of women–having drunk from the feminist well–now deny this complementarity. They deny the natural male superiority in a whole host of physical and mental tasks that create both our material prosperity and freedom and the rule-of-law … civilization itself. They think “Women could do it just as well. Women could do it better!”

    Now so removed from actual production, huge numbers of women trudge through life with nary a clue about all the creative and productive effort that men have done and do–that makes their cell phone turn on, their furnace put out heat, keeps the fridge cool and gets hot water to show up in the shower. Rather than being grateful and appreciate men’s natural inclination toward such “boring” stuff … they bitch and whine, whine and bitch … as they are so oppressed.

    As a result, there’s a pretty precipitous drop in white babies. A lot of guys facing this, think “no thanks”. And then the women whine “where are the good men?”

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @AnotherDad


    As a result, there’s a pretty precipitous drop in white babies. A lot of guys facing this, think “no thanks”. And then the women whine “where are the good men?”
     
    Oh do shut up already, AnotherDad. We're not gonna kiss your ass and we're not going to accept subordinate status to you anymore. If men want to say my way or the highway and refuse to marry a woman with self-respect, let them FOAD as far as I'm concerned. Future generations of men will be more agreeable.

    Indeed, you talk out of both sides of your mouth. One minute we're complementary, the next minute men are more important and we should be "grateful." Make up your damned mind.

    Replies: @Rosie, @AnotherDad

  341. @Buffalo Joe
    @Danindc

    Dan, I never understood the Rhonda Rousey hype. ESPN and SI called her the greatest female athlete ever. What? She had 11 bouts. Then she entered the octagon with Holly Hahn, lights out, a true beat down. Her return match against I forgot whom also ended with her being knocked out. Greatest hype since Ali as the number one athlete ever,. Not even the best boxer every.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Unladen Swallow

    Holly Holm was the one that beat her, badly, prior to that Dana White was claiming she could defeat Floyd Mayweather Jr. in MMA, pure insanity. I had a hard time believing he actually believed that himself, but there were certainly people out there who bought it.

  342. @Danindc
    @Russ

    Joe Rogan said she could beat some top-tier male mma bantamweights. I couldn’t believe it when I heard it. How could someone immersed in the sport be so stupid?

    He later recanted but he lost 1 listener forever. Now he only has 14, 999,999 subscribers to his podcast.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @additionalMike

    Rogan also initially opined that the Chris Cuomo 100 lb. one-arm dumbell press and partial curl video (all of which he did seated in an office chair, with no apparent attempts to brace or shift his weight) was real. Either Rogan trolls his audience once in a while, or he is in the habit of blurting out silly stuff before he has a chance to think about it.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @additionalMike

    He’s a really smart dumb guy

  343. @Ron Mexico
    @Don't Look at Me

    “Oriental Flavored Ramen.”... I bet Maury Povich knows the answer to that.

    Replies: @additionalMike

    Good one, Mr. Mexico.

  344. @anonymous
    You should comment on Trump's election tweets.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332552283553476608

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @vinny, @Anon, @Father O'Hara, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    Seriously, what post could Steve make?

    Trump dies as he lived–all tweet and no cattle.

    Trump tweets out these nuggets of useless nonsense, but the solid, documented, detailed, coherent report stating that these four counties vote dumps at these particularly times are likely bogus for X, Y, Z reasons and/or that these particular election officials in these particular locations cheated in these particular manners and/or whatever other charges are to be made … isn’t there.

    Yes, the Democrats did steal the election. They did it by using the phony “Covid!” excuse to allow ubiquitous mail ballots … which they could then steal and/or harvest.

    This was straightforward to see coming … but Trump did nothing.

    Just like he made nothing but incoherent noise, when he could have laid waste to Joe Biden and sealed up the election in the debate.

    Just like he made lots of incoherent noises but never could offer a calm, competent, rejoinder to the corona hysteria.

    Just like he didn’t get our soldiers out of Afghanistan now 19 years on.

    Just like he didn’t insist on the Wall being completely funded in his first budget negotiations.

    Just like he didn’t cancel DACA and all the TPS nonsense on day one.

    Trump’s the best President we’ve had in a long, long time. He actually does not want to screw Americans. Sadly, he lacked the discipline to competently, strategically, relentlessly push forward and explain calmly, coherently and cogently to the American people what he was doing and why it was in their and their children’s, their descendants’ interest.

    • Agree: vhrm
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    If there is solid evidence that Democrats actually stole the election then why on earth wouldn't Steve post about it dozens of times even if the content were repetitive? Because stealing the election is a less than important issue? If the steal did happen then why are you so resigned to the fact? Why aren't you calling for massive civil disobedience?

  345. @AnotherDad
    @Rosie


    But even if it were true, one still has to weigh the relative importance of these things. Without women’s ability to bear children, none of you would exist.
     
    Exactly.

    Women excel at bearing children--and nursing and nurturing them. They are biologically evolved to do precisely that.

    Men are stronger, smarter (analytically), more interested in the material world, and more aggressive and competitive--they need to be the sort of man that the cutest/most fertile girls are interested in (i.e. fitness display). Again, they are biologically evolved to be this way.

    In short, men and women are ... complementary.


    The current problem is essentially that a bunch of women--having drunk from the feminist well--now deny this complementarity. They deny the natural male superiority in a whole host of physical and mental tasks that create both our material prosperity and freedom and the rule-of-law ... civilization itself. They think "Women could do it just as well. Women could do it better!"

    Now so removed from actual production, huge numbers of women trudge through life with nary a clue about all the creative and productive effort that men have done and do--that makes their cell phone turn on, their furnace put out heat, keeps the fridge cool and gets hot water to show up in the shower. Rather than being grateful and appreciate men's natural inclination toward such "boring" stuff ... they bitch and whine, whine and bitch ... as they are so oppressed.

    As a result, there's a pretty precipitous drop in white babies. A lot of guys facing this, think "no thanks". And then the women whine "where are the good men?"

    Replies: @Rosie

    As a result, there’s a pretty precipitous drop in white babies. A lot of guys facing this, think “no thanks”. And then the women whine “where are the good men?”

    Oh do shut up already, AnotherDad. We’re not gonna kiss your ass and we’re not going to accept subordinate status to you anymore. If men want to say my way or the highway and refuse to marry a woman with self-respect, let them FOAD as far as I’m concerned. Future generations of men will be more agreeable.

    Indeed, you talk out of both sides of your mouth. One minute we’re complementary, the next minute men are more important and we should be “grateful.” Make up your damned mind.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Rosie

    And btw, you're not that damned superior. Get it through your thick head. Women are perfectly capable of performing all sorts of useful work and we will continue to do so now that we don't have to have 7 kids to maintain the population anymore. Deal with it.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2019/12/11/women-now-majority-medical-schools

    , @AnotherDad
    @Rosie

    As i was saying.

    Replies: @Rosie

  346. @Rosie
    @AnotherDad


    As a result, there’s a pretty precipitous drop in white babies. A lot of guys facing this, think “no thanks”. And then the women whine “where are the good men?”
     
    Oh do shut up already, AnotherDad. We're not gonna kiss your ass and we're not going to accept subordinate status to you anymore. If men want to say my way or the highway and refuse to marry a woman with self-respect, let them FOAD as far as I'm concerned. Future generations of men will be more agreeable.

    Indeed, you talk out of both sides of your mouth. One minute we're complementary, the next minute men are more important and we should be "grateful." Make up your damned mind.

    Replies: @Rosie, @AnotherDad

    And btw, you’re not that damned superior. Get it through your thick head. Women are perfectly capable of performing all sorts of useful work and we will continue to do so now that we don’t have to have 7 kids to maintain the population anymore. Deal with it.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2019/12/11/women-now-majority-medical-schools

  347. @Trinity
    @Rosie

    So the women made out better in the 1500 meter swim which is more of an endurance test. Interestingly the women did the poorest next to men in the 100 meter butterfly which has the be the hardest swim stroke.

    Odd that the women did better in the 100 meter run than in any other short race whether it be by land or sea or in this case, the pool. I would have figured the weaker sex would have performed more poorly in the 10o & 400 meters instead of the middle distance runs of 1500 meter and 5k.

    So the women were relatively weakest in middle distance runs and swimming sprints. Proves that women are indeed weaker in upper body strength, which isn't exactly a surprise to anyone. This goes back to the female powerlifter Stefi Cohen who I brought up earlier. Her deadlift and squat are competitive with all but the elite male powerlifters in her class, but her bench press is not much better than the average smaller gym rat. Kind of hard to find a 125lb male at the gym unless they are very short, but I am sure after 6 months to a year of regular training and practicing the bench press 2-3 times a week, even someone that size would be capable of benching 225lbs. And that would be natural without any steroids or other PEDs.

    So it looks like women fare better in lower body strength and endurance when matched up against men.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Ron Mexico

    Odd that the women did better in the 100 meter run than in any other short race whether it be by land or sea or in this case, the pool. I would have figured the weaker sex would have performed more poorly in the 10o & 400 meters instead of the middle distance runs of 1500 meter and 5k.

    In any event, the difference is less than I would have expected. I would imagine that height accounts for some of it as well. All else equal, the person with the longer legs runs faster. In swimming, tall people have an advantage because they can reach the wall sooner.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    @Rosie

    A lot of male sprinters are not that tall. Usain Bolt is the exception not the rule. Usually the best male sprinters are around 6' tall or slightly taller. Former Olympic gold medalist and former Dallas Cowboy Bob Hayes was 5'11" which is about average height for a man. Maurice Green who won several medals and held the 100 meter record from 1995-2005 was only 5'9" tall. Hell, the fastest guy I ever played against in high school was Lionel James, who despite being all of 5'6" tall would go on to play for Auburn and share the same backfield with Bo Jackson. "Little Train" would then go on to play 5 seasons with the San Diego Chargers. Until Usain Bolt came along, there were a helluva lot of male sprinters at under 6', they were not munchkins but they were not much above 6' either. You have to be explosive out of the blocks in the 100 meter sprint and that is where a shorter sprinter has the advantage and the longer limb runner is at a disadvantage. Bolt will likely be the tallest 100 meter champ of all time. I don't see many world class 100 meter specialist that are 6'5".

  348. @wren
    This guy deserves a musical made about him or something.

    The world's fastest typist:

    https://youtu.be/fr0DUTWOgU8

    This is awesome:

    https://youtu.be/j9Ii9YK2fQY

    Replies: @Truth

    • Replies: @wren
    @Truth

    Yeah, he seems to deserve more fame than he has gotten.

    I showed that article to my friend and co-worker a few years ago when I originally saw the YouTube video and thought that his life would make a good musical.

    My co-worker got really excited about that idea for a day or two anyway.

    He sings in restaurants in the evenings and occasional community theater productions.

    He played a very good Gary Coleman in Avenue Q a few years ago. He's six something and probably about 250 or so.

  349. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    And without men’s ability to produce sperm cells, you wouldn’t exist either, dummy.
     
    Right, and you are expendable because sperm is cheap. You don't see women gloating like obnoxious children about it, do you? Well, I am, of course, but only because you've repeatedly asked for it.

    But gestation and longevity are the only ways in which women are superior to men.
     
    That and the fact that we don't wantonly rob, kill, and maim others as you lot are prone to do.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    “Right, and you are expendable because sperm is cheap. You don’t see women gloating like obnoxious children about it, do you? Well, I am, of course, but only because you’ve repeatedly asked for it.”

    I think your dad’s sperm was very cheap to result in a creature such as you. You are loathsome. The cheapness of men, which you gloat about not even realizing that this is exactly what makes men superior and why your lot will always be at our mercy, is what makes us so much stronger and smarter than you. Because we have to compete to make the case of our value before the World, we evolved to be stronger and smarter than you. For every good female athelet, there are 100 great male athletes. For every smart woman, there are 100 super-smart men.

    I am expandable? Quite the opposite, you trollop. I am far more necessary than you. Whether you have kids or not, which is the only talent that you have as a female, is irrelevant to the World. You feel so special because your eggs are more valuable than sperm. Well, they are not. You are clearly very mediocre, even for a woman. You are far, far more expendable than me, because I have degrees in chemistry and engineering, and I actually contribute to the World. But even IF your eggs made you so valuable, it would be a very “cheap” value: the value of a breeding cow.

    So congratulations and gloat about the value that you have, which is that of a breeding animal.

    “That and the fact that we don’t wantonly rob, kill, and maim others as you lot are prone to do.”

    Men are superior at everything, including at killing people. Greatness, unfortunately, applies all-around. Einstein was a genius, and his equation allowed for the atomic bomb, which would kill billions of people. Greatness can be used for good or for evil.The difference is, men actually have the option, Women don’t, You cannot achieve or accomplish anything.

    You are mediocre even for a female. Your condescencion is completely ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    So congratulations and gloat about the value that you have, which is that of a breeding animal.
     
    All it takes is a little bit of coaxing to get monsters like you to reveal their inner psychopath.

    Of course, human mothers do things breeding animals do not, because humans have language and culture that we pass on from one generation to another.

    You cannot achieve or accomplish anything.
     
    So you say. The article on medical school admissions I linked above would seem to indicate the contrary.

    Men are superior at everything, including at killing people.
     
    You're evidently not superior at having a conscience.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    , @Alden
    @Rockford Tyson

    Another dirty old man who’s never been laid by man nor woman because he’s so ugly creepy and weird.

    The whole debate over men and women’s sports is over. From now on, all sports will be male only; as men to women trannies take over all the women’s teams and sports including 3rd grade jump roping and women’s Olympic ice skate dancing.

    As for live stock, my brother’s a dairy farmer. The sperm comes from a few bulls. But the cows do all the work of bearing. You should be in a dairy barn during calving season. Yeah!!! another girl. Dam!!! a boy. The poor little bull calves go off to the veal factory in weeks. It’s much more profitable than keeping them for steers. Baby roosters are thrown into a blender type thing during culling. They’re ground up for chicken feed. All they’re useful for.

    Same with all livestock. The girls are so much more valuable because they don’t just produce more live stock but the most profitable big AG commodity, milk but also eggs. A milk check coming in once a month is a much much more profitable and secure than herds of steers that have to be kept alive and fed when the market is down. Which is often.

    You being totally, absolutely, unfamiliar with farming and stock breeding your analogy about human females and female dairy cattle is moronic.

    And even when the cows are at the end of their milk and calf producing life, they’re still valuable for meat and sold to MacDonalds or Burger King for hamburgers.

    You need to form an online group therapy group for women hating weirdos like yourself instead of inserting your psychological problems into every thread.

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @J.Ross, @Rockford Tyson

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Rockford Tyson

    Don't talk to a woman like that.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

  350. @Trinity
    @Rosie

    So the women made out better in the 1500 meter swim which is more of an endurance test. Interestingly the women did the poorest next to men in the 100 meter butterfly which has the be the hardest swim stroke.

    Odd that the women did better in the 100 meter run than in any other short race whether it be by land or sea or in this case, the pool. I would have figured the weaker sex would have performed more poorly in the 10o & 400 meters instead of the middle distance runs of 1500 meter and 5k.

    So the women were relatively weakest in middle distance runs and swimming sprints. Proves that women are indeed weaker in upper body strength, which isn't exactly a surprise to anyone. This goes back to the female powerlifter Stefi Cohen who I brought up earlier. Her deadlift and squat are competitive with all but the elite male powerlifters in her class, but her bench press is not much better than the average smaller gym rat. Kind of hard to find a 125lb male at the gym unless they are very short, but I am sure after 6 months to a year of regular training and practicing the bench press 2-3 times a week, even someone that size would be capable of benching 225lbs. And that would be natural without any steroids or other PEDs.

    So it looks like women fare better in lower body strength and endurance when matched up against men.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Ron Mexico

    The 100m sprint and 400m sprint times for the women should have giant asterisks (FloJo only woman ever under 10.6 and Marita Koch GDR and Jarmila Kratochvilova CZE only women ever under 48) all in the 1980s. Jarmila also set the ridiculous 800m record of 1:53.28 that the hermaphrodite Caster Semenya is still a whole second behind.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Ron Mexico

    Didn’t FloJo die at 37 from all the testosterone and steroid injections? I remember her jaw visibly broadening over the years.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Ola

  351. @AKAHorace
    @Rosie


    It’s just that you don’t know that the good looking ones are lesbians. You’d be surprised.
     
    A lot of good looking women swing both ways.

    Replies: @Rosie

    A lot of good looking women swing both ways.

    Yep. According to male choice hypothesis, lesbianism may have been selected for as cuckold-prevention strategy. Lesbian tendencies appear to be rather widespread in the female population, as measured by porn consumption and patterns of arousal.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0957-x

  352. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @anonymous

    Seriously, what post could Steve make?

    Trump dies as he lived--all tweet and no cattle.

    Trump tweets out these nuggets of useless nonsense, but the solid, documented, detailed, coherent report stating that these four counties vote dumps at these particularly times are likely bogus for X, Y, Z reasons and/or that these particular election officials in these particular locations cheated in these particular manners and/or whatever other charges are to be made ... isn't there.

    Yes, the Democrats did steal the election. They did it by using the phony "Covid!" excuse to allow ubiquitous mail ballots ... which they could then steal and/or harvest.

    This was straightforward to see coming ... but Trump did nothing.

    Just like he made nothing but incoherent noise, when he could have laid waste to Joe Biden and sealed up the election in the debate.

    Just like he made lots of incoherent noises but never could offer a calm, competent, rejoinder to the corona hysteria.

    Just like he didn't get our soldiers out of Afghanistan now 19 years on.

    Just like he didn't insist on the Wall being completely funded in his first budget negotiations.

    Just like he didn't cancel DACA and all the TPS nonsense on day one.


    Trump's the best President we've had in a long, long time. He actually does not want to screw Americans. Sadly, he lacked the discipline to competently, strategically, relentlessly push forward and explain calmly, coherently and cogently to the American people what he was doing and why it was in their and their children's, their descendants' interest.

    Replies: @anonymous

    If there is solid evidence that Democrats actually stole the election then why on earth wouldn’t Steve post about it dozens of times even if the content were repetitive? Because stealing the election is a less than important issue? If the steal did happen then why are you so resigned to the fact? Why aren’t you calling for massive civil disobedience?

  353. @Corvinus
    @Father O'Hara

    "You hear that sh*t about the Delta Force shooting it out with the CIA?"

    I look forward to you proving that this event happened given your credentials.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara

    My son, tbh I dont believe it,but I have heard a lot about Dominion voting machines sending voting info to the Frankfurt servers.
    There seems to be yuge voting irregularities.
    I have been following this on Vox,but he seems to believe anything. He is now suggesting that that Haspel woman,the head of the CIA,was shot during the above battle and is now sadly taking a dirt nap.
    We need the varsity on this one. Our Dear Leader,Sailer!!

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Father O'Hara

    I saw that rumor in other sites. It’s ridiculous, why would a department head participate in a raid like that.

    If CIA was guarding the servers, CIA would use local German contractors or retired American military living in Germany. There are thousands of them in Germany. Especially around Frankfurt which sometimes looks like an American army base town what with all the uniformed soldiers all over town.

    , @Corvinus
    @Father O'Hara

    "There seems to be yuge voting irregularities."

    Allegedly.

    "I have been following this on Vox,but he seems to believe anything. He is now suggesting that that Haspel woman,the head of the CIA,was shot during the above battle and is now sadly taking a dirt nap."

    He's going off the reservation. He had predicted a Trumpslide, and now that his prediction came up woefully short, he is latching on to anything his grubby hands can latch onto. At least you are wise to acknowledge the Frankfurt server story is a hoax.

    "We need the varsity on this one. Our Dear Leader,Sailer!!"

    He did the requisite work. All smoke, no fire. Had there been anything of substance, he would have posted on this topic repeatedly by now.

  354. @anon

    In the U.S., equestrian events are becoming almost all Rich Girl-dominated, with close to 90% of competitors lately being female.
     
    Bill Gate's oldest daughter Jennifer Gates is an equestrian. She recently got engaged to her Chicago born Egyptian-American boyfriend who is a professional equestrian. They met while at Stanford.

    A friend once told me that a parent at her daughter's fancy private school donated a horse to Stanford after her daughter was done competing in equestrian. Stanford took the horse then rejected her daughter during admissions, doh! As the NYTimes pointed out, getting in through the side door to these fancy schools these days takes at least 8 figures, the horse donated was only in the 6 figures. I know of Microsoft execs/Stanford alums who donated entire buildings to Stanford to get their kids in.

    How about bowling, ping pong, card games, do women do as well in these?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ScarletNumber

    the horse donated was only in the 6 figures

    I’m surprised it was that much. At your local racetrack, any of the horses running in the claiming races can be had as long as your check clears. For example, Sunday at Aqueduct in Queens, the 10th race was the claiming race. You could buy any of the horses running for a mere $30,000. This included the winner, Unprecedented, who collected a purse of $20,900 for his owner Tobey L. Morton.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @ScarletNumber

    At your local racetrack, any of the horses running in the claiming races can be had as long as your check clears. For example, Sunday at Aqueduct in Queens, the 10th race was the claiming race. You could buy any of the horses running for a mere $30,000.

    One horse-related expense that no one thinks about is dealing with a dead horse. A woman I know had one of her horses die on her and it ended up costing something like $2,500. Unless you have a lot of rural property you can't bury a horse on your land. She had to call a rendering outfit that showed up with a forklift and dump truck.

    Replies: @Alden, @ScarletNumber

  355. @ATate
    @TWS

    When I was a junior in college we played bball on the courts between a few of the dorms on campus. Me and 2 buddies played about 4-5 games 3-on-3 with starters from the women's basketball team. This was at a Div. I PAC 10 (12) school. My 2 buddies played HS basketball but I did not. Neither one of those dudes got even a whiff of recruitment for basketball, not even from a community college.

    We beat the ladies handily in every game. One of them was about 6'3" and the other two shorter (around 5'9" maybe a bit taller). All were good athletes and were a treat to play against. But, it wasn't close. I'm 6' but could easily outjump the taller female by at least 8-9". They could shoot very well, but since we hustled and actually played a bit of defense they rarely got open looks. I could easily back down on the taller chick and shoot turn around jumpers or even jump hooks as I got closer to the rim. I'm a guard. I don't have a vast repertoire of post moves.

    This was the early 90's so we thought nothing of it, other than it was cool to play against them. Used to go to all their games on campus as well, was a very fun atmosphere. They were gracious when we played against them and very sweet if we saw them around campus.

    I still maintain that a good boys high school basketball team would clean the clock of a team of WBNA All Stars. Now I'm not talking about the HS boys team from down the block in Troutdale Oregon but one from like St. Anthony's.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Did you date any of the basketball players at your Pac10 school?

    HS boys team from … St. Anthony’s

    I didn’t know they were nationally known. In any event the school closed in 2017 due to lack of funding, as it was no longer being supported by its parish, i.e. St. Anthony’s RC church in Jersey City. The current NJ power is The Patrick School in Hillside, alma mater of Kyrie Irving of the Brooklyn Nets.

  356. @Reg Cæsar
    https://www.theflagshop.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/c/scotland-flag-std_1.jpg

    Replies: @J.Ross, @ScarletNumber

    Your vessel is stopped and making no way through the water?

  357. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "Right, and you are expendable because sperm is cheap. You don’t see women gloating like obnoxious children about it, do you? Well, I am, of course, but only because you’ve repeatedly asked for it."

    I think your dad's sperm was very cheap to result in a creature such as you. You are loathsome. The cheapness of men, which you gloat about not even realizing that this is exactly what makes men superior and why your lot will always be at our mercy, is what makes us so much stronger and smarter than you. Because we have to compete to make the case of our value before the World, we evolved to be stronger and smarter than you. For every good female athelet, there are 100 great male athletes. For every smart woman, there are 100 super-smart men.

    I am expandable? Quite the opposite, you trollop. I am far more necessary than you. Whether you have kids or not, which is the only talent that you have as a female, is irrelevant to the World. You feel so special because your eggs are more valuable than sperm. Well, they are not. You are clearly very mediocre, even for a woman. You are far, far more expendable than me, because I have degrees in chemistry and engineering, and I actually contribute to the World. But even IF your eggs made you so valuable, it would be a very "cheap" value: the value of a breeding cow.

    So congratulations and gloat about the value that you have, which is that of a breeding animal.

    "That and the fact that we don’t wantonly rob, kill, and maim others as you lot are prone to do."

    Men are superior at everything, including at killing people. Greatness, unfortunately, applies all-around. Einstein was a genius, and his equation allowed for the atomic bomb, which would kill billions of people. Greatness can be used for good or for evil.The difference is, men actually have the option, Women don't, You cannot achieve or accomplish anything.

    You are mediocre even for a female. Your condescencion is completely ridiculous.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Alden, @Bardon Kaldian

    So congratulations and gloat about the value that you have, which is that of a breeding animal.

    All it takes is a little bit of coaxing to get monsters like you to reveal their inner psychopath.

    Of course, human mothers do things breeding animals do not, because humans have language and culture that we pass on from one generation to another.

    You cannot achieve or accomplish anything.

    So you say. The article on medical school admissions I linked above would seem to indicate the contrary.

    Men are superior at everything, including at killing people.

    You’re evidently not superior at having a conscience.

    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "All it takes is a little bit of coaxing to get monsters like you to reveal their inner psychopath."

    This coming from the trollop that said men are "expendable". You disrespected your own father, without which his "cheap" sperm and feeding your tummy with his hard-earned money when you were growing up, you wouldn't be alive to call men expendable. Yeah, I am the monster, alright. Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious. But you are right: your dad's sperm IS cheap to result in a vile creature such as yourself.

    "Of course, human mothers do things breeding animals do not, because humans have language and culture that we pass on from one generation to another"

    Language and culture are much more the creation of men than of women. And it is fathers that actualy pass on culture to their kids. It is men wo teach their kids about the World and how to surive in it. Women only teach their kids potty training, and sometimes not even that.

    "You’re evidently not superior at having a conscience."

    Except that I am. At least compared to you. After all, I don't call an entire gender of people "expendable", especially having as a criteria something as asinine and unfair as reproductive value. Something that involves no human volition or effort, completely unearned value. You might as well brag about having been born with blue eyes. You are pathetic and morally repulsive.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Rosie

  358. @Rosie
    @Trinity


    Odd that the women did better in the 100 meter run than in any other short race whether it be by land or sea or in this case, the pool. I would have figured the weaker sex would have performed more poorly in the 10o & 400 meters instead of the middle distance runs of 1500 meter and 5k.
     
    In any event, the difference is less than I would have expected. I would imagine that height accounts for some of it as well. All else equal, the person with the longer legs runs faster. In swimming, tall people have an advantage because they can reach the wall sooner.

    Replies: @Trinity

    A lot of male sprinters are not that tall. Usain Bolt is the exception not the rule. Usually the best male sprinters are around 6′ tall or slightly taller. Former Olympic gold medalist and former Dallas Cowboy Bob Hayes was 5’11” which is about average height for a man. Maurice Green who won several medals and held the 100 meter record from 1995-2005 was only 5’9″ tall. Hell, the fastest guy I ever played against in high school was Lionel James, who despite being all of 5’6″ tall would go on to play for Auburn and share the same backfield with Bo Jackson. “Little Train” would then go on to play 5 seasons with the San Diego Chargers. Until Usain Bolt came along, there were a helluva lot of male sprinters at under 6′, they were not munchkins but they were not much above 6′ either. You have to be explosive out of the blocks in the 100 meter sprint and that is where a shorter sprinter has the advantage and the longer limb runner is at a disadvantage. Bolt will likely be the tallest 100 meter champ of all time. I don’t see many world class 100 meter specialist that are 6’5″.

  359. Trying to stay on topic so this is about male excellence, but I’m kind of waiting for Steve’s review of this before watching.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NationalistTV/status/1333617976084471809

  360. @Colin Wright
    @Buffalo Joe

    'Colin, thank you for the reply, but the Japanese basically ran out of pilots and never, to my knowledge, trained women as replacements.'

    However, Japanese losses were never that great in terms of raw manpower. There were always male recruits to be had.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @J.Ross, @Wielgus

    As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry. However, in WW2 infantry were sometimes given as little as a couple of weeks’ training before being sent into the line. A WW2 pilot needed about two years of training, and though the Japanese and Germans cut corners they found it a lot harder to replace aircrew casualties than infantry ones.
    Even the Japanese started to scrape the barrel for infantry as they war went on. For example, the army favoured infantry recruits from rural backgrounds. They were considered to be sturdy and obedient. But as the war went on they were forced to use more urban recruits, who were less sturdy, more questioning of orders or the war and (marginally) more likely to surrender than rural recruits. The Japanese even started to use more Koreans as fighting soldiers, where previously they were only used as labourers or for low-prestige tasks like guarding POWs.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    'As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry...'

    I would assume the Japanese were running out of the ability to train pilots, due to the virtual destruction of Japan's merchant marine and hence a lack of fuel.

    In any case, the availability of women had nothing to do with the shortage. This opposes to the Soviet Union, which was suffering colossal manpower losses, both as casualties and as people now under German rule.

    Military and civilian, Russia's gross casualties were something around thirty million. Then I would guess fifty million were in the areas under German occupation. Finally, another twenty million or so would have been Asiatics of limited literacy and hence utility. So all told, something like half the population was unavailable for roles requiring skill. Of course women would have to serve wherever they could. If a woman had the literacy, intelligence, youth, and reflexes to be a pilot, it would have made excellent sense to make her one.

    Japan's military losses at any rate were under a million -- about 1% of her population. There would have been no particular reason to train women pilots. A woman could do as much good collecting pine knots in the woods to make into fuel.

    Replies: @HunInTheSun, @Peter Akuleyev, @Wielgus

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    '...The Japanese even started to use more Koreans as fighting soldiers, where previously they were only used as labourers or for low-prestige tasks like guarding POWs.'

    Koreans I don't recall -- but one of the oddities I've noticed is that the Japanese employed divisions incorporating regiments of Formosans and things right from the start.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  361. @Rosie
    @AnotherDad


    As a result, there’s a pretty precipitous drop in white babies. A lot of guys facing this, think “no thanks”. And then the women whine “where are the good men?”
     
    Oh do shut up already, AnotherDad. We're not gonna kiss your ass and we're not going to accept subordinate status to you anymore. If men want to say my way or the highway and refuse to marry a woman with self-respect, let them FOAD as far as I'm concerned. Future generations of men will be more agreeable.

    Indeed, you talk out of both sides of your mouth. One minute we're complementary, the next minute men are more important and we should be "grateful." Make up your damned mind.

    Replies: @Rosie, @AnotherDad

    As i was saying.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Rosie
    @AnotherDad


    As i was saying.
     
    AnotherDad:

    Motherhood is so vitally important that the continuation of civilization requires that all women do it.

    Also AnotherDad:

    Men do all the important work and we should all be grateful to them for it and go make them a sandwich.

    Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

  362. @S. Anonyia
    @Clemsnman

    How are women’s sports going away a good thing when the U.S has insane obesity rates? Here in flyover country, virtually the ONLY women who remain normal weight post 30 are ex-athletes and other exercise fanatics. Women aren’t going to magically start walking everywhere like they do in Europe. I hate the insane emphasis we place on sports in this country (particularly football), but overall amateur sports are a net positive including for women.

    Also female athletes (generally) have a more realistic view of what women are physically capable of than ordinary women. And ironically in certain sports they are better than many typical men, though they will never remotely approach the ability levels of trained men. Take 5ks/10ks- I run them often and beat a fair amount of men my age and older, including men with similarly sporadic weekly mileage. I don’t beat many of the teenage boys who decide to participate, however, nor do I expect to. Most of the “you go girl” comments about this underwhelming kick came from women whose only exercise is getting off the couch occasionally. As for why Sarah Fuller herself participated in the charade, maybe she was overconfident following her SEC soccer title, and got talked into it by the former head football coach?

    Also I’ve never met an actual athletic man who wanted the end of women’s sport, the only exception being very embittered ex-wrestlers.

    Replies: @Clemsnman, @Bel Riose

    Why did the ex-wrestlers have a different opinion?

  363. @TWS
    @lavoisier

    Simply not true. Good high school judo players are hardly elite but they'll wipe the floor with professional female mma fighters. Put an average college mma fighter with a female pro and he simply dominates.

    It's the same in any sport, boys regularly beat female national or championship teams. Every year or so, an idiot coach puts her nationally ranked or championship soccer, basketball, you name it against a good local boys team sometimes literally boys 14 and under or Jr high. The women get humiliated with a blowout. There's so little overlap that an average male athlete 50th percentile has greater upper body strength than 90th percentile female. It's as if there were significant differences in design and materials between the two groups.

    Replies: @lavoisier, @Trinity

    Good high school judo players are hardly elite but they’ll wipe the floor with professional female mma fighters.

    I would take this bet in a heartbeat.

    High school boys taking judo would not stand a chance against a professional woman elite MMA fighter.

  364. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    I pretty thoroughly debunked them in 1997. I showed that the narrowing of the gap in 1980s Olympics was due to artificial male hormones having a bigger impact on women. When steroid testing got tougher after 1988, the gap got larger.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @vhrm

    The second half of the article Anon posted mentions this… and check out the scientists’ names:

    In fact, another study by exercise scientist Stephen Seiler of the Institute of Health and Sport in Kristiansand, Norway, and his colleague Steven Sailer found that far from getting smaller, the gender gap between male and female athletes was in fact getting wider.

    Dr Seiler and Dr Sailer …

    The exercise scientists found that the male-female gender gap was narrowest in the 1970s and 1980s – possibly because the illicit use of steroids had made some female athletes more like men – but since the 1990s had begun to widen.

  365. @AnotherDad
    @Rosie

    As i was saying.

    Replies: @Rosie

    As i was saying.

    AnotherDad:

    Motherhood is so vitally important that the continuation of civilization requires that all women do it.

    Also AnotherDad:

    Men do all the important work and we should all be grateful to them for it and go make them a sandwich.

    Which is it? You can’t have it both ways.

  366. @ScarletNumber
    @anon


    the horse donated was only in the 6 figures
     
    I'm surprised it was that much. At your local racetrack, any of the horses running in the claiming races can be had as long as your check clears. For example, Sunday at Aqueduct in Queens, the 10th race was the claiming race. You could buy any of the horses running for a mere $30,000. This included the winner, Unprecedented, who collected a purse of $20,900 for his owner Tobey L. Morton.

    Replies: @prosa123

    At your local racetrack, any of the horses running in the claiming races can be had as long as your check clears. For example, Sunday at Aqueduct in Queens, the 10th race was the claiming race. You could buy any of the horses running for a mere $30,000.

    One horse-related expense that no one thinks about is dealing with a dead horse. A woman I know had one of her horses die on her and it ended up costing something like $2,500. Unless you have a lot of rural property you can’t bury a horse on your land. She had to call a rendering outfit that showed up with a forklift and dump truck.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @prosa123

    Best to call them while the animal can still walk up the ramp into the van.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @prosa123


    One horse-related expense that no one thinks about is dealing with a dead horse.
     
    You are correct; I've never thought about this. I figured you would call the knacker who would take him away.

    Anyway, this may be the first time you have contributed a cogent thought on the internet, so congratulations.
  367. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "Right, and you are expendable because sperm is cheap. You don’t see women gloating like obnoxious children about it, do you? Well, I am, of course, but only because you’ve repeatedly asked for it."

    I think your dad's sperm was very cheap to result in a creature such as you. You are loathsome. The cheapness of men, which you gloat about not even realizing that this is exactly what makes men superior and why your lot will always be at our mercy, is what makes us so much stronger and smarter than you. Because we have to compete to make the case of our value before the World, we evolved to be stronger and smarter than you. For every good female athelet, there are 100 great male athletes. For every smart woman, there are 100 super-smart men.

    I am expandable? Quite the opposite, you trollop. I am far more necessary than you. Whether you have kids or not, which is the only talent that you have as a female, is irrelevant to the World. You feel so special because your eggs are more valuable than sperm. Well, they are not. You are clearly very mediocre, even for a woman. You are far, far more expendable than me, because I have degrees in chemistry and engineering, and I actually contribute to the World. But even IF your eggs made you so valuable, it would be a very "cheap" value: the value of a breeding cow.

    So congratulations and gloat about the value that you have, which is that of a breeding animal.

    "That and the fact that we don’t wantonly rob, kill, and maim others as you lot are prone to do."

    Men are superior at everything, including at killing people. Greatness, unfortunately, applies all-around. Einstein was a genius, and his equation allowed for the atomic bomb, which would kill billions of people. Greatness can be used for good or for evil.The difference is, men actually have the option, Women don't, You cannot achieve or accomplish anything.

    You are mediocre even for a female. Your condescencion is completely ridiculous.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Alden, @Bardon Kaldian

    Another dirty old man who’s never been laid by man nor woman because he’s so ugly creepy and weird.

    The whole debate over men and women’s sports is over. From now on, all sports will be male only; as men to women trannies take over all the women’s teams and sports including 3rd grade jump roping and women’s Olympic ice skate dancing.

    As for live stock, my brother’s a dairy farmer. The sperm comes from a few bulls. But the cows do all the work of bearing. You should be in a dairy barn during calving season. Yeah!!! another girl. Dam!!! a boy. The poor little bull calves go off to the veal factory in weeks. It’s much more profitable than keeping them for steers. Baby roosters are thrown into a blender type thing during culling. They’re ground up for chicken feed. All they’re useful for.

    Same with all livestock. The girls are so much more valuable because they don’t just produce more live stock but the most profitable big AG commodity, milk but also eggs. A milk check coming in once a month is a much much more profitable and secure than herds of steers that have to be kept alive and fed when the market is down. Which is often.

    You being totally, absolutely, unfamiliar with farming and stock breeding your analogy about human females and female dairy cattle is moronic.

    And even when the cows are at the end of their milk and calf producing life, they’re still valuable for meat and sold to MacDonalds or Burger King for hamburgers.

    You need to form an online group therapy group for women hating weirdos like yourself instead of inserting your psychological problems into every thread.

    • Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @Alden


    Baby roosters are thrown into a blender type thing during culling. They’re ground up for chicken feed. All they’re useful for.
     
    Out my way, it's literally a brush chipper.
    , @J.Ross
    @Alden

    Nothing says self-control like relishing the culling of farm animals.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Rockford Tyson
    @Alden

    You mad, bro? You sound completely retarded in this post. I am neither old, nor dirty, and I bet that I have banged more women than you.

    My advice to you is for you to seek a therapist, so then at least someone will pretend to care about what you have to say. LOL!

    Replies: @Alden

  368. @Father O'Hara
    @Corvinus

    My son, tbh I dont believe it,but I have heard a lot about Dominion voting machines sending voting info to the Frankfurt servers.
    There seems to be yuge voting irregularities.
    I have been following this on Vox,but he seems to believe anything. He is now suggesting that that Haspel woman,the head of the CIA,was shot during the above battle and is now sadly taking a dirt nap.
    We need the varsity on this one. Our Dear Leader,Sailer!!

    Replies: @Alden, @Corvinus

    I saw that rumor in other sites. It’s ridiculous, why would a department head participate in a raid like that.

    If CIA was guarding the servers, CIA would use local German contractors or retired American military living in Germany. There are thousands of them in Germany. Especially around Frankfurt which sometimes looks like an American army base town what with all the uniformed soldiers all over town.

  369. @Ron Mexico
    @Trinity

    The 100m sprint and 400m sprint times for the women should have giant asterisks (FloJo only woman ever under 10.6 and Marita Koch GDR and Jarmila Kratochvilova CZE only women ever under 48) all in the 1980s. Jarmila also set the ridiculous 800m record of 1:53.28 that the hermaphrodite Caster Semenya is still a whole second behind.

    Replies: @Alden

    Didn’t FloJo die at 37 from all the testosterone and steroid injections? I remember her jaw visibly broadening over the years.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Alden

    Yes, FloJo died in her sleep. They said it was respiratory related??? Our athletes were just trying to keep up with the Eastern Bloc nations. She and her husband were great folks. They lived in my city, Mission Viejo. She was very friendly and happily signed my Sports Illustrated's that I still have!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Ola
    @Alden

    I highly doubt her jaw broadened. Hypertrophy of facial muscles and loss of facial fat (both due to high doses of exogenous testosterone) might have given you that illusion. If it contributed to her early death? Don't know, but seems likely.

    Btw (not directed at you), apropos an earlier commenter who was derided: to a Swede like myself, there really seems to be something peculiar about the American obsession with "square jaws", height and necks.

    Replies: @Alden, @TWS

  370. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    So congratulations and gloat about the value that you have, which is that of a breeding animal.
     
    All it takes is a little bit of coaxing to get monsters like you to reveal their inner psychopath.

    Of course, human mothers do things breeding animals do not, because humans have language and culture that we pass on from one generation to another.

    You cannot achieve or accomplish anything.
     
    So you say. The article on medical school admissions I linked above would seem to indicate the contrary.

    Men are superior at everything, including at killing people.
     
    You're evidently not superior at having a conscience.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    “All it takes is a little bit of coaxing to get monsters like you to reveal their inner psychopath.”

    This coming from the trollop that said men are “expendable”. You disrespected your own father, without which his “cheap” sperm and feeding your tummy with his hard-earned money when you were growing up, you wouldn’t be alive to call men expendable. Yeah, I am the monster, alright. Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious. But you are right: your dad’s sperm IS cheap to result in a vile creature such as yourself.

    “Of course, human mothers do things breeding animals do not, because humans have language and culture that we pass on from one generation to another”

    Language and culture are much more the creation of men than of women. And it is fathers that actualy pass on culture to their kids. It is men wo teach their kids about the World and how to surive in it. Women only teach their kids potty training, and sometimes not even that.

    “You’re evidently not superior at having a conscience.”

    Except that I am. At least compared to you. After all, I don’t call an entire gender of people “expendable”, especially having as a criteria something as asinine and unfair as reproductive value. Something that involves no human volition or effort, completely unearned value. You might as well brag about having been born with blue eyes. You are pathetic and morally repulsive.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Rockford Tyson


    You are pathetic and morally repulsive.
     
    Rosie you've pissed off the FNG (f*&*ng new guy). Yet another gap-toothed Brit blathering on about American stuff.

    Rockford Files - are you related to Jonathan Mason?

    Replies: @Alden, @Rockford Tyson

    , @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    This coming from the trollop that said men are “expendable”.
     
    Aw did I hurt your feelings? If you have a problem with the term "expendable," take it up with the manosphere. I don't much care for it myself. Of course, men are only "expendable" in a relative sense.

    And it is fathers that actualy pass on culture to their kids. It is men wo teach their kids about the World and how to surive in it. Women only teach their kids potty training, and sometimes not even that.
     
    Lol that's fucking absurd. What sort of mother did you have?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/its-the-moms-who-get-kids-to-church/505310/

    Except that I am. At least compared to you.

     

    Sorry, little boy, but you are a textbook psychopath. The dehumanization of others ("breeding cow") is a dead giveaway.

    After all, I don’t call an entire gender of people “expendable”,
     
    No you just call us stupid, otherwise useless "breeding animals."

    As usual, the misogynist cries out as he strikes you.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

  371. @Alden
    @Rockford Tyson

    Another dirty old man who’s never been laid by man nor woman because he’s so ugly creepy and weird.

    The whole debate over men and women’s sports is over. From now on, all sports will be male only; as men to women trannies take over all the women’s teams and sports including 3rd grade jump roping and women’s Olympic ice skate dancing.

    As for live stock, my brother’s a dairy farmer. The sperm comes from a few bulls. But the cows do all the work of bearing. You should be in a dairy barn during calving season. Yeah!!! another girl. Dam!!! a boy. The poor little bull calves go off to the veal factory in weeks. It’s much more profitable than keeping them for steers. Baby roosters are thrown into a blender type thing during culling. They’re ground up for chicken feed. All they’re useful for.

    Same with all livestock. The girls are so much more valuable because they don’t just produce more live stock but the most profitable big AG commodity, milk but also eggs. A milk check coming in once a month is a much much more profitable and secure than herds of steers that have to be kept alive and fed when the market is down. Which is often.

    You being totally, absolutely, unfamiliar with farming and stock breeding your analogy about human females and female dairy cattle is moronic.

    And even when the cows are at the end of their milk and calf producing life, they’re still valuable for meat and sold to MacDonalds or Burger King for hamburgers.

    You need to form an online group therapy group for women hating weirdos like yourself instead of inserting your psychological problems into every thread.

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @J.Ross, @Rockford Tyson

    Baby roosters are thrown into a blender type thing during culling. They’re ground up for chicken feed. All they’re useful for.

    Out my way, it’s literally a brush chipper.

  372. @Father O'Hara
    @Corvinus

    My son, tbh I dont believe it,but I have heard a lot about Dominion voting machines sending voting info to the Frankfurt servers.
    There seems to be yuge voting irregularities.
    I have been following this on Vox,but he seems to believe anything. He is now suggesting that that Haspel woman,the head of the CIA,was shot during the above battle and is now sadly taking a dirt nap.
    We need the varsity on this one. Our Dear Leader,Sailer!!

    Replies: @Alden, @Corvinus

    “There seems to be yuge voting irregularities.”

    Allegedly.

    “I have been following this on Vox,but he seems to believe anything. He is now suggesting that that Haspel woman,the head of the CIA,was shot during the above battle and is now sadly taking a dirt nap.”

    He’s going off the reservation. He had predicted a Trumpslide, and now that his prediction came up woefully short, he is latching on to anything his grubby hands can latch onto. At least you are wise to acknowledge the Frankfurt server story is a hoax.

    “We need the varsity on this one. Our Dear Leader,Sailer!!”

    He did the requisite work. All smoke, no fire. Had there been anything of substance, he would have posted on this topic repeatedly by now.

  373. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "All it takes is a little bit of coaxing to get monsters like you to reveal their inner psychopath."

    This coming from the trollop that said men are "expendable". You disrespected your own father, without which his "cheap" sperm and feeding your tummy with his hard-earned money when you were growing up, you wouldn't be alive to call men expendable. Yeah, I am the monster, alright. Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious. But you are right: your dad's sperm IS cheap to result in a vile creature such as yourself.

    "Of course, human mothers do things breeding animals do not, because humans have language and culture that we pass on from one generation to another"

    Language and culture are much more the creation of men than of women. And it is fathers that actualy pass on culture to their kids. It is men wo teach their kids about the World and how to surive in it. Women only teach their kids potty training, and sometimes not even that.

    "You’re evidently not superior at having a conscience."

    Except that I am. At least compared to you. After all, I don't call an entire gender of people "expendable", especially having as a criteria something as asinine and unfair as reproductive value. Something that involves no human volition or effort, completely unearned value. You might as well brag about having been born with blue eyes. You are pathetic and morally repulsive.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Rosie

    You are pathetic and morally repulsive.

    Rosie you’ve pissed off the FNG (f*&*ng new guy). Yet another gap-toothed Brit blathering on about American stuff.

    Rockford Files – are you related to Jonathan Mason?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @William Badwhite

    I do believe Rockford Tyson thinks conservative website means a refuge for woman hating weirdo creeps. Bet he looks like Woody Allan.

    , @Rockford Tyson
    @William Badwhite

    Better be any thing you say than a white-knighting mangina like you. At least I have some dignity.

  374. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "All it takes is a little bit of coaxing to get monsters like you to reveal their inner psychopath."

    This coming from the trollop that said men are "expendable". You disrespected your own father, without which his "cheap" sperm and feeding your tummy with his hard-earned money when you were growing up, you wouldn't be alive to call men expendable. Yeah, I am the monster, alright. Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious. But you are right: your dad's sperm IS cheap to result in a vile creature such as yourself.

    "Of course, human mothers do things breeding animals do not, because humans have language and culture that we pass on from one generation to another"

    Language and culture are much more the creation of men than of women. And it is fathers that actualy pass on culture to their kids. It is men wo teach their kids about the World and how to surive in it. Women only teach their kids potty training, and sometimes not even that.

    "You’re evidently not superior at having a conscience."

    Except that I am. At least compared to you. After all, I don't call an entire gender of people "expendable", especially having as a criteria something as asinine and unfair as reproductive value. Something that involves no human volition or effort, completely unearned value. You might as well brag about having been born with blue eyes. You are pathetic and morally repulsive.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Rosie

    This coming from the trollop that said men are “expendable”.

    Aw did I hurt your feelings? If you have a problem with the term “expendable,” take it up with the manosphere. I don’t much care for it myself. Of course, men are only “expendable” in a relative sense.

    And it is fathers that actualy pass on culture to their kids. It is men wo teach their kids about the World and how to surive in it. Women only teach their kids potty training, and sometimes not even that.

    Lol that’s fucking absurd. What sort of mother did you have?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/its-the-moms-who-get-kids-to-church/505310/

    Except that I am. At least compared to you.

    Sorry, little boy, but you are a textbook psychopath. The dehumanization of others (“breeding cow”) is a dead giveaway.

    After all, I don’t call an entire gender of people “expendable”,

    No you just call us stupid, otherwise useless “breeding animals.”

    As usual, the misogynist cries out as he strikes you.

    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "Aw did I hurt your feelings? If you have a problem with the term “expendable,” take it up with the manosphere. I don’t much care for it myself. Of course, men are only “expendable” in a relative sense."

    Men are not expendable at all. We create literally everything.It is you women who are 100$ expendable. With induced multipotent stem cells and artificial wombs, women are 100% irrelevant. A man could actually just clone himself or have a son/daughter with simple insertion of another "X" or "Y" chromossome.

    "Lol that’s fucking absurd. What sort of mother did you have?"

    LOL, you post a link to church going? Yeah, that's a very convincing argument of how necessary women are. Spreading pathetic Bronze Age superstitions to their children. And this is the difference between men and woman: men pass to their kids real facts, like science and financal advice on how to survive in the World; women pass on bullshit. I did learn something from my mom, though: how to manipulate and deceive. You called me a psychopath, clearly showing you have no idea what that word means. But If I am, I have my mom to thank for. And no, she wasn't any worse than the average woman: just typical of her gender.

    "Sorry, little boy, but you are a textbook psychopath. The dehumanization of others (“breeding cow”) is a dead giveaway."

    If I am a little boy, you have the brains(or lack thereof) an unborn fetus.

    "No you just call us stupid, otherwise useless “breeding animals.”

    As usual, the misogynist cries out as he strikes you."

    You clearly don't know how to read. Nowhere do I deny that I said those things. My point is, I never said women are expendable like you said of men. I neve3r stated that women are less worthy of LIFE because of their gender, which is what you implied with your comment.

    I am going to give you some word of advice, "Rosie": you are not very smart. Your arguments are poor, and easily disproven by basic facts and deductive logic. Stop arguing with me. It's starting to look really bad for you.

    Replies: @Alden, @Rosie

  375. @Alden
    @Ron Mexico

    Didn’t FloJo die at 37 from all the testosterone and steroid injections? I remember her jaw visibly broadening over the years.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Ola

    Yes, FloJo died in her sleep. They said it was respiratory related??? Our athletes were just trying to keep up with the Eastern Bloc nations. She and her husband were great folks. They lived in my city, Mission Viejo. She was very friendly and happily signed my Sports Illustrated’s that I still have!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Ron Mexico

    A slender Flo-Jo deserved to have won the gold medal in the 1984 Olympics women's 200m sprint and the 1987 World Championship, but lost to beefed up women. So she was still working in the nail salon.

    So she arrived for the 1988 Olympics looking like Wonder Woman.

    Replies: @Danindc

  376. @Colin Wright
    @Jonathan Mason

    'In large marathon races the best women beat more than 95% of male competitors.'

    We could also show that the smartest blacks have higher IQ's than 95% of all whites. It wouldn't disprove anything at all.

    ...I wonder what the highest IQ ever recorded for an actual 100%-black black is? 150?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It was 191.

  377. @Alden
    @Ron Mexico

    Didn’t FloJo die at 37 from all the testosterone and steroid injections? I remember her jaw visibly broadening over the years.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Ola

    I highly doubt her jaw broadened. Hypertrophy of facial muscles and loss of facial fat (both due to high doses of exogenous testosterone) might have given you that illusion. If it contributed to her early death? Don’t know, but seems likely.

    Btw (not directed at you), apropos an earlier commenter who was derided: to a Swede like myself, there really seems to be something peculiar about the American obsession with “square jaws”, height and necks.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Ola

    I do remember noticing her jaw. She was very pretty and girly looking even after her face became more square.

    , @TWS
    @Ola

    Says the guy whose nation is pretty damn famous for being square headed. Lol

  378. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "Right, and you are expendable because sperm is cheap. You don’t see women gloating like obnoxious children about it, do you? Well, I am, of course, but only because you’ve repeatedly asked for it."

    I think your dad's sperm was very cheap to result in a creature such as you. You are loathsome. The cheapness of men, which you gloat about not even realizing that this is exactly what makes men superior and why your lot will always be at our mercy, is what makes us so much stronger and smarter than you. Because we have to compete to make the case of our value before the World, we evolved to be stronger and smarter than you. For every good female athelet, there are 100 great male athletes. For every smart woman, there are 100 super-smart men.

    I am expandable? Quite the opposite, you trollop. I am far more necessary than you. Whether you have kids or not, which is the only talent that you have as a female, is irrelevant to the World. You feel so special because your eggs are more valuable than sperm. Well, they are not. You are clearly very mediocre, even for a woman. You are far, far more expendable than me, because I have degrees in chemistry and engineering, and I actually contribute to the World. But even IF your eggs made you so valuable, it would be a very "cheap" value: the value of a breeding cow.

    So congratulations and gloat about the value that you have, which is that of a breeding animal.

    "That and the fact that we don’t wantonly rob, kill, and maim others as you lot are prone to do."

    Men are superior at everything, including at killing people. Greatness, unfortunately, applies all-around. Einstein was a genius, and his equation allowed for the atomic bomb, which would kill billions of people. Greatness can be used for good or for evil.The difference is, men actually have the option, Women don't, You cannot achieve or accomplish anything.

    You are mediocre even for a female. Your condescencion is completely ridiculous.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Alden, @Bardon Kaldian

    Don’t talk to a woman like that.

    • Thanks: Alden
    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Another white-knighting hero. It's funny how little self-respect "men" like you have that a woman can call your whole gender expendable, and you sitll defend her. You are pathetic, dude. And try to stop me.

    Replies: @Alden

  379. @Alden
    @Rockford Tyson

    Another dirty old man who’s never been laid by man nor woman because he’s so ugly creepy and weird.

    The whole debate over men and women’s sports is over. From now on, all sports will be male only; as men to women trannies take over all the women’s teams and sports including 3rd grade jump roping and women’s Olympic ice skate dancing.

    As for live stock, my brother’s a dairy farmer. The sperm comes from a few bulls. But the cows do all the work of bearing. You should be in a dairy barn during calving season. Yeah!!! another girl. Dam!!! a boy. The poor little bull calves go off to the veal factory in weeks. It’s much more profitable than keeping them for steers. Baby roosters are thrown into a blender type thing during culling. They’re ground up for chicken feed. All they’re useful for.

    Same with all livestock. The girls are so much more valuable because they don’t just produce more live stock but the most profitable big AG commodity, milk but also eggs. A milk check coming in once a month is a much much more profitable and secure than herds of steers that have to be kept alive and fed when the market is down. Which is often.

    You being totally, absolutely, unfamiliar with farming and stock breeding your analogy about human females and female dairy cattle is moronic.

    And even when the cows are at the end of their milk and calf producing life, they’re still valuable for meat and sold to MacDonalds or Burger King for hamburgers.

    You need to form an online group therapy group for women hating weirdos like yourself instead of inserting your psychological problems into every thread.

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @J.Ross, @Rockford Tyson

    Nothing says self-control like relishing the culling of farm animals.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @J.Ross

    That’s what farmers do. Meat doesn’t come down from heaven on styrofoam trays properly chilled or frozen. It’s a really gross process of breeding, artificial insemination, bloody slimy birth, sometimes pulling the umbilical cord to make sure the placenta comes out, herding the bull calves into the veal factory truck, or herding the steers into the slaughter house truck.

    The heads of cattle horses goats are incredible narrow when they’re born. Weird looking. They mostly come out straight with the legs neatly folded in a perfect birth package. A week later their heads are huge and rounder.

    I could tell you what’s mixed with alfalfa to make silage but you’d never eat beef again.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  380. @TWS
    @lavoisier

    Simply not true. Good high school judo players are hardly elite but they'll wipe the floor with professional female mma fighters. Put an average college mma fighter with a female pro and he simply dominates.

    It's the same in any sport, boys regularly beat female national or championship teams. Every year or so, an idiot coach puts her nationally ranked or championship soccer, basketball, you name it against a good local boys team sometimes literally boys 14 and under or Jr high. The women get humiliated with a blowout. There's so little overlap that an average male athlete 50th percentile has greater upper body strength than 90th percentile female. It's as if there were significant differences in design and materials between the two groups.

    Replies: @lavoisier, @Trinity

    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes. No way would I pay to see it though. It would be too brutal to watch, I hate watching another female fight another female much less a guy beating on a woman. That is the thing with MOST men. MOST males, ( at least any NORMAL male) couldn’t find it in himself to go all out against a woman in a physical confrontation. Hell, MOST men won’t even go all out in a tennis match against a woman, much less an MMA fight, boxing or wrestling match. A no win situation for any man to find himself in. Anyone remember the Chyna vs. Joey Buttafuoco boxing match? If I remember right, Chyna did fairly well, can’t remember if Joey pulled it out (no pun intended.) Oh well.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Trinity

    People that watch women fight in cages are sick sick sick. To me it’s an inborn reflex to be disgusted by watching women fight. Like being repulsed by snakes.

    You are correct. Any legit high school wrestler would destroy any woman in the octagon. And any guy who played high level physical sports knows this.

    , @lavoisier
    @Trinity


    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes.
     
    Wrestler may stand a chance if he can take the woman to the ground before her superior striking is able to finish him off. But even if he gets her on the ground and he is wrestling a black belt in jiu jitsu he will probably still lose--even if he is physically stronger. But this state champion is an elite male athlete and so would be expected to compete at a very high level and to have a decent chance of winning. However, I would still bet on the female MMA fighter if she was high ranked in that weight category.

    Boxer would likely quickly lose if he had no serious training in ground fighting as female elite MMA fighter would quickly take him to the ground and submit him.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc, @TWS

  381. @William Badwhite
    @Rockford Tyson


    You are pathetic and morally repulsive.
     
    Rosie you've pissed off the FNG (f*&*ng new guy). Yet another gap-toothed Brit blathering on about American stuff.

    Rockford Files - are you related to Jonathan Mason?

    Replies: @Alden, @Rockford Tyson

    I do believe Rockford Tyson thinks conservative website means a refuge for woman hating weirdo creeps. Bet he looks like Woody Allan.

  382. @prosa123
    @Inselaffen

    If I'm not mistaken, high school girl wrestlers do best against boys in the lightest weight classes, especially 106 and 113 pounds. It could be that boys who weigh that little aren't fully into puberty, but it's more likely that the boys have to weight cut like crazy to meet those limits and are physically weakened as a result. In contrast, there are a lot more girls whose natural weights are at those levels and they can compete at full strength.

    Replies: @68W58

    There was a girl who won the lowest weight class state title in 1A (smallest school classification) here in NC last year. I think that most of the boys at that weight class are 9th graders who move up as they age, even so they have to cut weight so a girl might have an advantage.

  383. @prosa123
    @ScarletNumber

    At your local racetrack, any of the horses running in the claiming races can be had as long as your check clears. For example, Sunday at Aqueduct in Queens, the 10th race was the claiming race. You could buy any of the horses running for a mere $30,000.

    One horse-related expense that no one thinks about is dealing with a dead horse. A woman I know had one of her horses die on her and it ended up costing something like $2,500. Unless you have a lot of rural property you can't bury a horse on your land. She had to call a rendering outfit that showed up with a forklift and dump truck.

    Replies: @Alden, @ScarletNumber

    Best to call them while the animal can still walk up the ramp into the van.

  384. @Ron Mexico
    @Alden

    Yes, FloJo died in her sleep. They said it was respiratory related??? Our athletes were just trying to keep up with the Eastern Bloc nations. She and her husband were great folks. They lived in my city, Mission Viejo. She was very friendly and happily signed my Sports Illustrated's that I still have!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A slender Flo-Jo deserved to have won the gold medal in the 1984 Olympics women’s 200m sprint and the 1987 World Championship, but lost to beefed up women. So she was still working in the nail salon.

    So she arrived for the 1988 Olympics looking like Wonder Woman.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Steve Sailer

    I met Flo Jo and her husband Al after the 1992 all star game at Camden Yards. Incredibly nice and gave me directions to a parking lot even though I was really drunk! God bless her.

  385. @additionalMike
    @Danindc

    Rogan also initially opined that the Chris Cuomo 100 lb. one-arm dumbell press and partial curl video (all of which he did seated in an office chair, with no apparent attempts to brace or shift his weight) was real. Either Rogan trolls his audience once in a while, or he is in the habit of blurting out silly stuff before he has a chance to think about it.

    Replies: @Danindc

    He’s a really smart dumb guy

  386. @Trinity
    @TWS

    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes. No way would I pay to see it though. It would be too brutal to watch, I hate watching another female fight another female much less a guy beating on a woman. That is the thing with MOST men. MOST males, ( at least any NORMAL male) couldn't find it in himself to go all out against a woman in a physical confrontation. Hell, MOST men won't even go all out in a tennis match against a woman, much less an MMA fight, boxing or wrestling match. A no win situation for any man to find himself in. Anyone remember the Chyna vs. Joey Buttafuoco boxing match? If I remember right, Chyna did fairly well, can't remember if Joey pulled it out (no pun intended.) Oh well.

    Replies: @Danindc, @lavoisier

    People that watch women fight in cages are sick sick sick. To me it’s an inborn reflex to be disgusted by watching women fight. Like being repulsed by snakes.

    You are correct. Any legit high school wrestler would destroy any woman in the octagon. And any guy who played high level physical sports knows this.

    • Agree: Trinity
  387. @Steve Sailer
    @Ron Mexico

    A slender Flo-Jo deserved to have won the gold medal in the 1984 Olympics women's 200m sprint and the 1987 World Championship, but lost to beefed up women. So she was still working in the nail salon.

    So she arrived for the 1988 Olympics looking like Wonder Woman.

    Replies: @Danindc

    I met Flo Jo and her husband Al after the 1992 all star game at Camden Yards. Incredibly nice and gave me directions to a parking lot even though I was really drunk! God bless her.

  388. Today Sen. Schumer told cyber cast news service that in his first day President Biden would issue an order requiring all federally funded public schools colleges and universities to give boys gender identifying as girls full access to all women’s sports locker rooms and bathrooms. Equal rights for girls gender identifying as boys too.

    So the lesbian jock full employment act is finished.

  389. @Buffalo Joe
    @Colin Wright

    Colin, we could go back and forth all day on this, but it is consensus that Japan ran out of pilots. Training to be a combat pilot is extensive and dangerous. The US lost 20,000 plus WWII recruits killed in stateside flight training. Japan's navy needed carrier pilots, requiring the most rigorous skills and training. That's why they went with Kamikaze pilots, no need to learn to return and land on a carrier. Stay safe.

    Replies: @vhrm

    The US lost 20,000 plus WWII recruits killed in stateside flight training.

    Interesting. I assumed this had to be inflated by a factor of 10, but apparently it’s mostly right!

    I forget both how dangerous flying used to be as well as how huge WW2 was…

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/forgotten-history-13000-americans-died-while-training-fight-world-war-ii-167332

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @vhrm

    From that article:


    In another P-38 incident, Lt. Col. William E. Dyess died on December 22, 1943, after his aircraft caught fire during a flight test over Burbank, California. Refusing to bail out and risk his plane crashing into a populated area, Dyess heroically stayed with it and brought it down in a vacant lot; no one on the ground was hurt but Dyess lost his life.

    Ironically, he had been captured by the Japanese on Bataan in April 1942, escaped a year later, and fought with guerrilla forces on Mindanao before being evacuated by an American submarine. Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene, Texas, was named in his honor.
     
    a) i'm glad i live in relatively peaceful times

    b) How long until this base (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyess_Air_Force_Base) is renamed for one of the Hidden Figures women or equivalent? Col. Dyess may have been a hero many times over and sacrificed his life to save others, but he was rather male and pale... just like Hitler.
  390. @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry. However, in WW2 infantry were sometimes given as little as a couple of weeks' training before being sent into the line. A WW2 pilot needed about two years of training, and though the Japanese and Germans cut corners they found it a lot harder to replace aircrew casualties than infantry ones.
    Even the Japanese started to scrape the barrel for infantry as they war went on. For example, the army favoured infantry recruits from rural backgrounds. They were considered to be sturdy and obedient. But as the war went on they were forced to use more urban recruits, who were less sturdy, more questioning of orders or the war and (marginally) more likely to surrender than rural recruits. The Japanese even started to use more Koreans as fighting soldiers, where previously they were only used as labourers or for low-prestige tasks like guarding POWs.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright

    ‘As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry…’

    I would assume the Japanese were running out of the ability to train pilots, due to the virtual destruction of Japan’s merchant marine and hence a lack of fuel.

    In any case, the availability of women had nothing to do with the shortage. This opposes to the Soviet Union, which was suffering colossal manpower losses, both as casualties and as people now under German rule.

    Military and civilian, Russia’s gross casualties were something around thirty million. Then I would guess fifty million were in the areas under German occupation. Finally, another twenty million or so would have been Asiatics of limited literacy and hence utility. So all told, something like half the population was unavailable for roles requiring skill. Of course women would have to serve wherever they could. If a woman had the literacy, intelligence, youth, and reflexes to be a pilot, it would have made excellent sense to make her one.

    Japan’s military losses at any rate were under a million — about 1% of her population. There would have been no particular reason to train women pilots. A woman could do as much good collecting pine knots in the woods to make into fuel.

    • Replies: @HunInTheSun
    @Colin Wright


    I would assume the Japanese were running out of the ability to train pilots, due to the virtual destruction of Japan’s merchant marine and hence a lack of fuel.
     
    Yes. IJN Aviation was astonishingly rigorous and selective, self-defeatingly so, read Saburo Sakai’s account and his criticisms thereof. By November 1942, after the Battle of Santa Cruz and three months of unrelenting attrition around Guadalcanal and the Solomons, one of Japan’s two fleet carriers (Zuikaku) had to withdraw from theatre solely on account of aircrew losses, even though the last two American carriers in the South Pacific were sunk (Hornet) or forced to withdraw to Pearl for repairs (Enterprise), leaving only the damaged Shokaku in place but ineffective.

    By 1943, the majority of IJN aircrew who had started the war were dead. Japanese training capacity hadn’t provided for this level of losses, but American planners had done and American industry would provide the ships for all those new aviators. Japanese Army Aviation had more fliers and better planes, but for various reasons that speak to the failure of Nipponese strategic vision, those forces would never engage the US Navy consistently and effectively.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Colin Wright

    This opposes to the Soviet Union, which was suffering colossal manpower losses, both as casualties and as people now under German rule.

    On top of that the Gulag kept functioning the entire time.

    , @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    Lack of fuel impacted training programmes in both Japan and Germany, but the fact that it takes more than a few months to train pilots meant they ran out of skilled aircrew early on, no matter what shortcuts they took.
    The German day fighter arm by war's end has been described of consisting of two very different types - a small number of aces who continued knocking down enemy planes by the dozen, even by the hundreds, and a far larger number who could barely take off and land safely, much less engage in aerial combat. The Japanese were probably fairly similar.

  391. @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry. However, in WW2 infantry were sometimes given as little as a couple of weeks' training before being sent into the line. A WW2 pilot needed about two years of training, and though the Japanese and Germans cut corners they found it a lot harder to replace aircrew casualties than infantry ones.
    Even the Japanese started to scrape the barrel for infantry as they war went on. For example, the army favoured infantry recruits from rural backgrounds. They were considered to be sturdy and obedient. But as the war went on they were forced to use more urban recruits, who were less sturdy, more questioning of orders or the war and (marginally) more likely to surrender than rural recruits. The Japanese even started to use more Koreans as fighting soldiers, where previously they were only used as labourers or for low-prestige tasks like guarding POWs.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright

    ‘…The Japanese even started to use more Koreans as fighting soldiers, where previously they were only used as labourers or for low-prestige tasks like guarding POWs.’

    Koreans I don’t recall — but one of the oddities I’ve noticed is that the Japanese employed divisions incorporating regiments of Formosans and things right from the start.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    They still preferred Koreans as second-line troops. For example the first commander-in-chief of the South Korean army in the Korean War, Chae Byong Duk or "Fat Chae", had been an ordnance officer in the Japanese army in WW2. As the war went on more were used in combat roles - basically all combatants in WW2, including the Americans, used troops in combat roles who they probably would not have used at the start. Eddie Slovik's juvenile criminal record, for example, initially prevented him from being drafted but this rule was later waived and he was called up into the infantry.
    Other Koreans were not directly part of the Japanese armed forces but were part of forces under their control, like the Manchukuo army.

  392. @vhrm
    @Buffalo Joe


    The US lost 20,000 plus WWII recruits killed in stateside flight training.
     
    Interesting. I assumed this had to be inflated by a factor of 10, but apparently it's mostly right!

    I forget both how dangerous flying used to be as well as how huge WW2 was...

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/forgotten-history-13000-americans-died-while-training-fight-world-war-ii-167332

    Replies: @vhrm

    From that article:

    In another P-38 incident, Lt. Col. William E. Dyess died on December 22, 1943, after his aircraft caught fire during a flight test over Burbank, California. Refusing to bail out and risk his plane crashing into a populated area, Dyess heroically stayed with it and brought it down in a vacant lot; no one on the ground was hurt but Dyess lost his life.

    Ironically, he had been captured by the Japanese on Bataan in April 1942, escaped a year later, and fought with guerrilla forces on Mindanao before being evacuated by an American submarine. Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene, Texas, was named in his honor.

    a) i’m glad i live in relatively peaceful times

    b) How long until this base (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyess_Air_Force_Base) is renamed for one of the Hidden Figures women or equivalent? Col. Dyess may have been a hero many times over and sacrificed his life to save others, but he was rather male and pale… just like Hitler.

  393. @J.Ross
    @Alden

    Nothing says self-control like relishing the culling of farm animals.

    Replies: @Alden

    That’s what farmers do. Meat doesn’t come down from heaven on styrofoam trays properly chilled or frozen. It’s a really gross process of breeding, artificial insemination, bloody slimy birth, sometimes pulling the umbilical cord to make sure the placenta comes out, herding the bull calves into the veal factory truck, or herding the steers into the slaughter house truck.

    The heads of cattle horses goats are incredible narrow when they’re born. Weird looking. They mostly come out straight with the legs neatly folded in a perfect birth package. A week later their heads are huge and rounder.

    I could tell you what’s mixed with alfalfa to make silage but you’d never eat beef again.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Alden

    https://postimg.cc/bGG7GBzZ

    Replies: @Alden

  394. @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    This coming from the trollop that said men are “expendable”.
     
    Aw did I hurt your feelings? If you have a problem with the term "expendable," take it up with the manosphere. I don't much care for it myself. Of course, men are only "expendable" in a relative sense.

    And it is fathers that actualy pass on culture to their kids. It is men wo teach their kids about the World and how to surive in it. Women only teach their kids potty training, and sometimes not even that.
     
    Lol that's fucking absurd. What sort of mother did you have?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/its-the-moms-who-get-kids-to-church/505310/

    Except that I am. At least compared to you.

     

    Sorry, little boy, but you are a textbook psychopath. The dehumanization of others ("breeding cow") is a dead giveaway.

    After all, I don’t call an entire gender of people “expendable”,
     
    No you just call us stupid, otherwise useless "breeding animals."

    As usual, the misogynist cries out as he strikes you.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    “Aw did I hurt your feelings? If you have a problem with the term “expendable,” take it up with the manosphere. I don’t much care for it myself. Of course, men are only “expendable” in a relative sense.”

    Men are not expendable at all. We create literally everything.It is you women who are 100$ expendable. With induced multipotent stem cells and artificial wombs, women are 100% irrelevant. A man could actually just clone himself or have a son/daughter with simple insertion of another “X” or “Y” chromossome.

    “Lol that’s fucking absurd. What sort of mother did you have?”

    LOL, you post a link to church going? Yeah, that’s a very convincing argument of how necessary women are. Spreading pathetic Bronze Age superstitions to their children. And this is the difference between men and woman: men pass to their kids real facts, like science and financal advice on how to survive in the World; women pass on bullshit. I did learn something from my mom, though: how to manipulate and deceive. You called me a psychopath, clearly showing you have no idea what that word means. But If I am, I have my mom to thank for. And no, she wasn’t any worse than the average woman: just typical of her gender.

    “Sorry, little boy, but you are a textbook psychopath. The dehumanization of others (“breeding cow”) is a dead giveaway.”

    If I am a little boy, you have the brains(or lack thereof) an unborn fetus.

    “No you just call us stupid, otherwise useless “breeding animals.”

    As usual, the misogynist cries out as he strikes you.”

    You clearly don’t know how to read. Nowhere do I deny that I said those things. My point is, I never said women are expendable like you said of men. I neve3r stated that women are less worthy of LIFE because of their gender, which is what you implied with your comment.

    I am going to give you some word of advice, “Rosie”: you are not very smart. Your arguments are poor, and easily disproven by basic facts and deductive logic. Stop arguing with me. It’s starting to look really bad for you.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Rockford Tyson

    Are you drunk?

    Replies: @black sea

    , @Rosie
    @Rockford Tyson


    With induced multipotent stem cells and artificial wombs, women are 100% irrelevant. A man could actually just clone himself or have a son/daughter with simple insertion of another “X” or “Y” chromossome.
     
    At least that would spare us the bother of having to live on the same planet as the likes of you.

    Why would you make girls since you've decided we're useless? Since you're so offended by my words, I'm sure you'll really be outraged about the millions of girls who are abandoned and killed every year because of ultra misogynist attitudes like yours.

    https://youtu.be/qeSYN2c8f_A

    LOL, you post a link to church going? Yeah, that’s a very convincing argument of how necessary women are. Spreading pathetic Bronze Age superstitions to their children.
     
    You said: Women don't pass on culture.

    Fact: Religion is a major component of culture.

    Therefore: You were wrong.

    Of course, not all mothers take their kids to church. Some choose to pass on their love of music or other things. Either way, you are FOS.


    I did learn something from my mom, though: how to manipulate and deceive. You called me a psychopath, clearly showing you have no idea what that word means. But If I am, I have my mom to thank for.
     
    Oh.
  395. @William Badwhite
    @Rockford Tyson


    You are pathetic and morally repulsive.
     
    Rosie you've pissed off the FNG (f*&*ng new guy). Yet another gap-toothed Brit blathering on about American stuff.

    Rockford Files - are you related to Jonathan Mason?

    Replies: @Alden, @Rockford Tyson

    Better be any thing you say than a white-knighting mangina like you. At least I have some dignity.

  396. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Rockford Tyson

    Don't talk to a woman like that.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    Another white-knighting hero. It’s funny how little self-respect “men” like you have that a woman can call your whole gender expendable, and you sitll defend her. You are pathetic, dude. And try to stop me.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Rockford Tyson

    You insulted women, expect to be insulted back. Just go back to watching the porn you love so much creep. Or buy one of those life like sex robots. You can beat her up to take out your frustrations.

  397. @Ola
    @Alden

    I highly doubt her jaw broadened. Hypertrophy of facial muscles and loss of facial fat (both due to high doses of exogenous testosterone) might have given you that illusion. If it contributed to her early death? Don't know, but seems likely.

    Btw (not directed at you), apropos an earlier commenter who was derided: to a Swede like myself, there really seems to be something peculiar about the American obsession with "square jaws", height and necks.

    Replies: @Alden, @TWS

    I do remember noticing her jaw. She was very pretty and girly looking even after her face became more square.

  398. Men and women competed against each other in shooting in the Olympics for a while, but have gone back to separate competitions.

    Women fire fewer bullets in the alike events and use lighter instruments (I hesitate calling them weapons).

  399. @Trinity
    @TWS

    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes. No way would I pay to see it though. It would be too brutal to watch, I hate watching another female fight another female much less a guy beating on a woman. That is the thing with MOST men. MOST males, ( at least any NORMAL male) couldn't find it in himself to go all out against a woman in a physical confrontation. Hell, MOST men won't even go all out in a tennis match against a woman, much less an MMA fight, boxing or wrestling match. A no win situation for any man to find himself in. Anyone remember the Chyna vs. Joey Buttafuoco boxing match? If I remember right, Chyna did fairly well, can't remember if Joey pulled it out (no pun intended.) Oh well.

    Replies: @Danindc, @lavoisier

    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes.

    Wrestler may stand a chance if he can take the woman to the ground before her superior striking is able to finish him off. But even if he gets her on the ground and he is wrestling a black belt in jiu jitsu he will probably still lose–even if he is physically stronger. But this state champion is an elite male athlete and so would be expected to compete at a very high level and to have a decent chance of winning. However, I would still bet on the female MMA fighter if she was high ranked in that weight category.

    Boxer would likely quickly lose if he had no serious training in ground fighting as female elite MMA fighter would quickly take him to the ground and submit him.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @lavoisier

    No.

    , @Danindc
    @lavoisier

    Wrestling has proven to be the best base for MMA. A great high school wrestler would destroy any woman put in front of him. My brother was runner up at States and he beat up lots of girls. And boys!

    Just kidding but the woman would have no chance.

    , @TWS
    @lavoisier

    You're wrong.

    Replies: @lavoisier

  400. @Alden
    @J.Ross

    That’s what farmers do. Meat doesn’t come down from heaven on styrofoam trays properly chilled or frozen. It’s a really gross process of breeding, artificial insemination, bloody slimy birth, sometimes pulling the umbilical cord to make sure the placenta comes out, herding the bull calves into the veal factory truck, or herding the steers into the slaughter house truck.

    The heads of cattle horses goats are incredible narrow when they’re born. Weird looking. They mostly come out straight with the legs neatly folded in a perfect birth package. A week later their heads are huge and rounder.

    I could tell you what’s mixed with alfalfa to make silage but you’d never eat beef again.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    • Replies: @Alden
    @J.Ross

    I don’t eat hamburger. It always tastes a bit rotten to me. Only farming I really know about is dairy farming.

  401. @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    'As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry...'

    I would assume the Japanese were running out of the ability to train pilots, due to the virtual destruction of Japan's merchant marine and hence a lack of fuel.

    In any case, the availability of women had nothing to do with the shortage. This opposes to the Soviet Union, which was suffering colossal manpower losses, both as casualties and as people now under German rule.

    Military and civilian, Russia's gross casualties were something around thirty million. Then I would guess fifty million were in the areas under German occupation. Finally, another twenty million or so would have been Asiatics of limited literacy and hence utility. So all told, something like half the population was unavailable for roles requiring skill. Of course women would have to serve wherever they could. If a woman had the literacy, intelligence, youth, and reflexes to be a pilot, it would have made excellent sense to make her one.

    Japan's military losses at any rate were under a million -- about 1% of her population. There would have been no particular reason to train women pilots. A woman could do as much good collecting pine knots in the woods to make into fuel.

    Replies: @HunInTheSun, @Peter Akuleyev, @Wielgus

    I would assume the Japanese were running out of the ability to train pilots, due to the virtual destruction of Japan’s merchant marine and hence a lack of fuel.

    Yes. IJN Aviation was astonishingly rigorous and selective, self-defeatingly so, read Saburo Sakai’s account and his criticisms thereof. By November 1942, after the Battle of Santa Cruz and three months of unrelenting attrition around Guadalcanal and the Solomons, one of Japan’s two fleet carriers (Zuikaku) had to withdraw from theatre solely on account of aircrew losses, even though the last two American carriers in the South Pacific were sunk (Hornet) or forced to withdraw to Pearl for repairs (Enterprise), leaving only the damaged Shokaku in place but ineffective.

    By 1943, the majority of IJN aircrew who had started the war were dead. Japanese training capacity hadn’t provided for this level of losses, but American planners had done and American industry would provide the ships for all those new aviators. Japanese Army Aviation had more fliers and better planes, but for various reasons that speak to the failure of Nipponese strategic vision, those forces would never engage the US Navy consistently and effectively.

  402. @Alden
    @Rockford Tyson

    Another dirty old man who’s never been laid by man nor woman because he’s so ugly creepy and weird.

    The whole debate over men and women’s sports is over. From now on, all sports will be male only; as men to women trannies take over all the women’s teams and sports including 3rd grade jump roping and women’s Olympic ice skate dancing.

    As for live stock, my brother’s a dairy farmer. The sperm comes from a few bulls. But the cows do all the work of bearing. You should be in a dairy barn during calving season. Yeah!!! another girl. Dam!!! a boy. The poor little bull calves go off to the veal factory in weeks. It’s much more profitable than keeping them for steers. Baby roosters are thrown into a blender type thing during culling. They’re ground up for chicken feed. All they’re useful for.

    Same with all livestock. The girls are so much more valuable because they don’t just produce more live stock but the most profitable big AG commodity, milk but also eggs. A milk check coming in once a month is a much much more profitable and secure than herds of steers that have to be kept alive and fed when the market is down. Which is often.

    You being totally, absolutely, unfamiliar with farming and stock breeding your analogy about human females and female dairy cattle is moronic.

    And even when the cows are at the end of their milk and calf producing life, they’re still valuable for meat and sold to MacDonalds or Burger King for hamburgers.

    You need to form an online group therapy group for women hating weirdos like yourself instead of inserting your psychological problems into every thread.

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @J.Ross, @Rockford Tyson

    You mad, bro? You sound completely retarded in this post. I am neither old, nor dirty, and I bet that I have banged more women than you.

    My advice to you is for you to seek a therapist, so then at least someone will pretend to care about what you have to say. LOL!

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Rockford Tyson

    F you asshole. You’re right, I’ve never banged a woman in my life. Because I’m a woman. “Bang” if that’s the word you use for making love well F you again.

    “Bang”, no wonder you’ve been rejected by most of the women you hit on. I bet you get the 2/am leftovers who’ve been out in the parking lot a few times and are too stoned to see how hideous you are.

    That is if, and it’s a big if you go to the skank bars at all. Your sex life consists of you and your computer.

  403. @Rockford Tyson
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Another white-knighting hero. It's funny how little self-respect "men" like you have that a woman can call your whole gender expendable, and you sitll defend her. You are pathetic, dude. And try to stop me.

    Replies: @Alden

    You insulted women, expect to be insulted back. Just go back to watching the porn you love so much creep. Or buy one of those life like sex robots. You can beat her up to take out your frustrations.

  404. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "Aw did I hurt your feelings? If you have a problem with the term “expendable,” take it up with the manosphere. I don’t much care for it myself. Of course, men are only “expendable” in a relative sense."

    Men are not expendable at all. We create literally everything.It is you women who are 100$ expendable. With induced multipotent stem cells and artificial wombs, women are 100% irrelevant. A man could actually just clone himself or have a son/daughter with simple insertion of another "X" or "Y" chromossome.

    "Lol that’s fucking absurd. What sort of mother did you have?"

    LOL, you post a link to church going? Yeah, that's a very convincing argument of how necessary women are. Spreading pathetic Bronze Age superstitions to their children. And this is the difference between men and woman: men pass to their kids real facts, like science and financal advice on how to survive in the World; women pass on bullshit. I did learn something from my mom, though: how to manipulate and deceive. You called me a psychopath, clearly showing you have no idea what that word means. But If I am, I have my mom to thank for. And no, she wasn't any worse than the average woman: just typical of her gender.

    "Sorry, little boy, but you are a textbook psychopath. The dehumanization of others (“breeding cow”) is a dead giveaway."

    If I am a little boy, you have the brains(or lack thereof) an unborn fetus.

    "No you just call us stupid, otherwise useless “breeding animals.”

    As usual, the misogynist cries out as he strikes you."

    You clearly don't know how to read. Nowhere do I deny that I said those things. My point is, I never said women are expendable like you said of men. I neve3r stated that women are less worthy of LIFE because of their gender, which is what you implied with your comment.

    I am going to give you some word of advice, "Rosie": you are not very smart. Your arguments are poor, and easily disproven by basic facts and deductive logic. Stop arguing with me. It's starting to look really bad for you.

    Replies: @Alden, @Rosie

    Are you drunk?

    • Replies: @black sea
    @Alden


    @Rockford Tyson

    Are you drunk?


    I think it's worse than that.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

  405. @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    "Women are more likely to graduate from high school than men.
    Women are more likely to graduate from college than men."

    This is not due to natural circumstances and has only become true very recently. The social culture, including the public education system of the last 50 years has been promoting females and demoting males. I'll give you a related measurable occurrence: Prepubescent boys are way more likely to medicated than prepubescent girls, for the high crime of being boys without access to adequate time to engage in physical activity. So hyperactive boys are punished with ritalin. Boys are also now harshly punished for exploring their very natural curiosity for physical confrontation and engagement, as well as other natural curiosities related to exploration. Meanwhile girls are lauded as brave and historic for joining the boy scouts or joining the high school football team. Females enjoy so more privilege these days, the least you can do is graduate high school.

    The rest of your examples save the last one are also the result of social engineering, not nature.

    The last one well, not really sure that's necessarily a good thing for women.

    Replies: @Alden

    You’re absolutely right about the discrimination against boys and men. The entire feminazi movement was a project of the capitalist pigs to lower wages to subsistence level. And they’ve succeeded very well.

    The feminazis were just the front group. Affirmative action against White men was done by White men who were presidents senators governors and most of all, judges.

    Most unacceptable things men do, drunk druggies , dropping out of high school, imprisonment etc are done by black, not White men. White men have been reduced to the status of untouchables.

    Every civil war and and revolution has been elites against other elites. But this war against White men has been a war of all the elites in every possible sector against White men.

  406. @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    'As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry...'

    I would assume the Japanese were running out of the ability to train pilots, due to the virtual destruction of Japan's merchant marine and hence a lack of fuel.

    In any case, the availability of women had nothing to do with the shortage. This opposes to the Soviet Union, which was suffering colossal manpower losses, both as casualties and as people now under German rule.

    Military and civilian, Russia's gross casualties were something around thirty million. Then I would guess fifty million were in the areas under German occupation. Finally, another twenty million or so would have been Asiatics of limited literacy and hence utility. So all told, something like half the population was unavailable for roles requiring skill. Of course women would have to serve wherever they could. If a woman had the literacy, intelligence, youth, and reflexes to be a pilot, it would have made excellent sense to make her one.

    Japan's military losses at any rate were under a million -- about 1% of her population. There would have been no particular reason to train women pilots. A woman could do as much good collecting pine knots in the woods to make into fuel.

    Replies: @HunInTheSun, @Peter Akuleyev, @Wielgus

    This opposes to the Soviet Union, which was suffering colossal manpower losses, both as casualties and as people now under German rule.

    On top of that the Gulag kept functioning the entire time.

  407. @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    'As Buffalo Joe and J. Ross observe, they were running out of pilots, although perhaps not the raw material for infantry...'

    I would assume the Japanese were running out of the ability to train pilots, due to the virtual destruction of Japan's merchant marine and hence a lack of fuel.

    In any case, the availability of women had nothing to do with the shortage. This opposes to the Soviet Union, which was suffering colossal manpower losses, both as casualties and as people now under German rule.

    Military and civilian, Russia's gross casualties were something around thirty million. Then I would guess fifty million were in the areas under German occupation. Finally, another twenty million or so would have been Asiatics of limited literacy and hence utility. So all told, something like half the population was unavailable for roles requiring skill. Of course women would have to serve wherever they could. If a woman had the literacy, intelligence, youth, and reflexes to be a pilot, it would have made excellent sense to make her one.

    Japan's military losses at any rate were under a million -- about 1% of her population. There would have been no particular reason to train women pilots. A woman could do as much good collecting pine knots in the woods to make into fuel.

    Replies: @HunInTheSun, @Peter Akuleyev, @Wielgus

    Lack of fuel impacted training programmes in both Japan and Germany, but the fact that it takes more than a few months to train pilots meant they ran out of skilled aircrew early on, no matter what shortcuts they took.
    The German day fighter arm by war’s end has been described of consisting of two very different types – a small number of aces who continued knocking down enemy planes by the dozen, even by the hundreds, and a far larger number who could barely take off and land safely, much less engage in aerial combat. The Japanese were probably fairly similar.

  408. @lavoisier
    @Trinity


    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes.
     
    Wrestler may stand a chance if he can take the woman to the ground before her superior striking is able to finish him off. But even if he gets her on the ground and he is wrestling a black belt in jiu jitsu he will probably still lose--even if he is physically stronger. But this state champion is an elite male athlete and so would be expected to compete at a very high level and to have a decent chance of winning. However, I would still bet on the female MMA fighter if she was high ranked in that weight category.

    Boxer would likely quickly lose if he had no serious training in ground fighting as female elite MMA fighter would quickly take him to the ground and submit him.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc, @TWS

    No.

    • Disagree: lavoisier
  409. @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    '...The Japanese even started to use more Koreans as fighting soldiers, where previously they were only used as labourers or for low-prestige tasks like guarding POWs.'

    Koreans I don't recall -- but one of the oddities I've noticed is that the Japanese employed divisions incorporating regiments of Formosans and things right from the start.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    They still preferred Koreans as second-line troops. For example the first commander-in-chief of the South Korean army in the Korean War, Chae Byong Duk or “Fat Chae”, had been an ordnance officer in the Japanese army in WW2. As the war went on more were used in combat roles – basically all combatants in WW2, including the Americans, used troops in combat roles who they probably would not have used at the start. Eddie Slovik’s juvenile criminal record, for example, initially prevented him from being drafted but this rule was later waived and he was called up into the infantry.
    Other Koreans were not directly part of the Japanese armed forces but were part of forces under their control, like the Manchukuo army.

  410. @Alden
    @Rockford Tyson

    Are you drunk?

    Replies: @black sea


    Are you drunk?

    I think it’s worse than that.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @black sea


    @Rockford Tyson

    Are you drunk?

    I think it’s worse than that.
     
    23 posts to date, most on this thread. Just another troll. Or Mason's drunken alter ego

    Replies: @Rosie

  411. @Elli
    @Andy

    A relative was a master chess player, and his belief was that women didn't make the very top levels because tournaments were so physically draining.

    Not to mention competitiveness, interest/obsession, and right tails on the analytical bell curve.

    But the man on the ground thought it was stamina.

    Replies: @CAL2, @keypusher, @Nachum

    A cousin of mine is one of the top players in the world, and I once asked him why the concept of “coaches” exists in chess. (He has one, of course.) After all, if you can coach a great chess player, aren’t you smart enough to be one yourself? At the very least, if you take age into account, shouldn’t every coach have *been* a top player at some point?

    He answered that a lot more goes into it than just simple intelligence. There are many, many factors here, both relating to what’s inside your head (personality, etc.) and the rest of your body. So you can coach without necessarily being the best yourself. (Of course, pretty much every coach to a top player is a great player himself- just not at the very top.)

    (And of course age is a factor, for reasons that don’t have to do with a lessening of intelligence. When a great player keeps going even into his 40’s it tends to be remarked upon.)

    Women would, as a group, thus be at a disadvantage for the “rest of the body” stuff, and if we’re not going to be those fantasists who deny that there’s any difference between men’s and women’s brains, they may be at a disadvantage on the non-intelligence mind issues as well.

  412. @prosa123
    @ScarletNumber

    At your local racetrack, any of the horses running in the claiming races can be had as long as your check clears. For example, Sunday at Aqueduct in Queens, the 10th race was the claiming race. You could buy any of the horses running for a mere $30,000.

    One horse-related expense that no one thinks about is dealing with a dead horse. A woman I know had one of her horses die on her and it ended up costing something like $2,500. Unless you have a lot of rural property you can't bury a horse on your land. She had to call a rendering outfit that showed up with a forklift and dump truck.

    Replies: @Alden, @ScarletNumber

    One horse-related expense that no one thinks about is dealing with a dead horse.

    You are correct; I’ve never thought about this. I figured you would call the knacker who would take him away.

    Anyway, this may be the first time you have contributed a cogent thought on the internet, so congratulations.

  413. @lavoisier
    @Trinity


    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes.
     
    Wrestler may stand a chance if he can take the woman to the ground before her superior striking is able to finish him off. But even if he gets her on the ground and he is wrestling a black belt in jiu jitsu he will probably still lose--even if he is physically stronger. But this state champion is an elite male athlete and so would be expected to compete at a very high level and to have a decent chance of winning. However, I would still bet on the female MMA fighter if she was high ranked in that weight category.

    Boxer would likely quickly lose if he had no serious training in ground fighting as female elite MMA fighter would quickly take him to the ground and submit him.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc, @TWS

    Wrestling has proven to be the best base for MMA. A great high school wrestler would destroy any woman put in front of him. My brother was runner up at States and he beat up lots of girls. And boys!

    Just kidding but the woman would have no chance.

  414. @black sea
    @Alden


    @Rockford Tyson

    Are you drunk?


    I think it's worse than that.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Are you drunk?

    I think it’s worse than that.

    23 posts to date, most on this thread. Just another troll. Or Mason’s drunken alter ego

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @William Badwhite

    This deranged lunatic is too stupid to realize that going off on someone you know almost nothing about except a few comments in heated thread is a really good way to make a damned fool of yourself.

    My comment from a thread back in March at the beginning of the lockdown:


    The thing is, I have no choice but to go shopping. I could send Mr. Rosie, of course, but then that never ends well. Besides, I’m more disposable than him at this juncture, anyway.

    There should be masks and gloves available when I walk into the grocery store.
     
    Comment #86

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/doctors-beds-ventilators/
  415. @Rockford Tyson
    @Alden

    You mad, bro? You sound completely retarded in this post. I am neither old, nor dirty, and I bet that I have banged more women than you.

    My advice to you is for you to seek a therapist, so then at least someone will pretend to care about what you have to say. LOL!

    Replies: @Alden

    F you asshole. You’re right, I’ve never banged a woman in my life. Because I’m a woman. “Bang” if that’s the word you use for making love well F you again.

    “Bang”, no wonder you’ve been rejected by most of the women you hit on. I bet you get the 2/am leftovers who’ve been out in the parking lot a few times and are too stoned to see how hideous you are.

    That is if, and it’s a big if you go to the skank bars at all. Your sex life consists of you and your computer.

  416. @J.Ross
    @Alden

    https://postimg.cc/bGG7GBzZ

    Replies: @Alden

    I don’t eat hamburger. It always tastes a bit rotten to me. Only farming I really know about is dairy farming.

  417. @Anonymous
    NHRA (National Hot Rod Association) Drag Racing. Brittany Force (daughter of NHRA legend John Force) won the Top Fuel Championship in 2017. Shirley Muldowney also won it in 1982. In other racing (e.g., IndyCar or NASCAR) women haven’t faired as well.


    http://a2.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/MOTORS/images/2016/03/30/033016_motor_nhra_preview.JPG
    Brittany Force

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/32/8e/31/328e31b8d25f88c06b1839f01d8b023f.jpg
    Shirley Muldowney

     

    Replies: @dfordoom, @James Braxton, @anon, @Currahee, @J1234

    Drag racing was the first thing that came to my mind as well, but it’s actually a somewhat superfluous example. When it comes to getting in a car and pressing the pedal of a car for a quarter mile, yes they can do that, and their generally lighter weight (probably 30 to 40 pounds less than men, on avg.) would be a distinct advantage in a sport where weight is everything. I’m not minimizing the ability to control a 1500-3000 hp vehicle in a straight line, but many early top fuel greats like Tommy Ivo and Don Garlits also wrenched on – and even built and designed – their own cars. Could girls do that as well as boys? I kinda doubt it. What I’m saying is that the prominence of the sport was built by people like Garlits, Bill Jenkins and Dick Landy.

    Shirley Muldowney and other prominent girl racers were married to – or girlfriends of – already established or experienced racers who were in the “wrench on your own car” tradition. Not surprisingly, these guys wrenched on the girls cars as their careers took off. Garlits was the epitome of the one man jack and master of all trades. I doubt any girl could ever achieve at that level. BTW, from what I gather, he was/is also an exceptionally decent person.

    • Agree: Sebastian Max
  418. @Gordo
    Curling.

    https://hintonvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/AshleyKalk_Curling_Provincials.jpg

    Men and women, and people of different ages often compete in mixed teams.

    A very well mannered and polite sport.

    At international and Olympic levels men and women compete separately except in mixed doubles formats like tennis.

    Very White as well which helps with the politeness, although the Japanese and Koreans do take a hand against the other cold climaters.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uqU5D5dUQY8/maxresdefault.jpg

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse

    Bad joke alert.

    Curling involves sweeping, so yes, a woman could be useful.

  419. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    The obvious: Sport-Fucking

    Replies: @Steve-oh

    Dad always told me you can’t whup anything that fights on its back.

  420. @millennialdad
    @anonymous as usual

    What is it about the Soviet Union that produces such super deadly sniper ladies?

    Strange how other countries never utilized lady sharpshooting in their wars of survival.

    All I know is it can't be propaganda, only a nazi would think that.

    Replies: @Carlo, @Buffalo Joe, @anonymous as usual

    are you pretending to be ignorant, or are you ignorant?

  421. @Ola
    @Alden

    I highly doubt her jaw broadened. Hypertrophy of facial muscles and loss of facial fat (both due to high doses of exogenous testosterone) might have given you that illusion. If it contributed to her early death? Don't know, but seems likely.

    Btw (not directed at you), apropos an earlier commenter who was derided: to a Swede like myself, there really seems to be something peculiar about the American obsession with "square jaws", height and necks.

    Replies: @Alden, @TWS

    Says the guy whose nation is pretty damn famous for being square headed. Lol

  422. @lavoisier
    @Trinity


    I would be willing to bet that any state champion wrestler or regional golden gloves champion boxer would indeed beat any current world champion female MMA fighter in their respective weight classes.
     
    Wrestler may stand a chance if he can take the woman to the ground before her superior striking is able to finish him off. But even if he gets her on the ground and he is wrestling a black belt in jiu jitsu he will probably still lose--even if he is physically stronger. But this state champion is an elite male athlete and so would be expected to compete at a very high level and to have a decent chance of winning. However, I would still bet on the female MMA fighter if she was high ranked in that weight category.

    Boxer would likely quickly lose if he had no serious training in ground fighting as female elite MMA fighter would quickly take him to the ground and submit him.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc, @TWS

    You’re wrong.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    @TWS

    If a female MMA Champion faced off against a golden gloves boxer who would win?

    Well consider this example: Floyd Mayweather and Ronda Rousey. Mayweather is a man who is both slightly taller and heavier. Rousey won an Olympic gold medal in judo and had been undefeated in mixed martial arts fights before losing to Holm. If she was able to get Mayweather on the ground, where he doesn't have any experience, he would likely be submitted quickly..

    Here is what some experts think about a fight between a female MMA champion and arguably the greatest boxer who ever lived--not just some regional golden gloves champion.

    "


    Brian Michelino, a coach at Long Island Mixed Martial Arts in New York, a gym that trains several UFC fighters, predicted Rousey's more diverse skill set would help her defeat Mayweather in an MMA fight. While boxing strictly involves punching, MMA incorporates kicking and grappling techniques designed for fighting on the ground.

    "In an MMA fight I’m pretty confident that she would mess him up, especially since Floyd Mayweather does not have grappling experience," Michelino said.

    His comments echoed those of UFC president Dana White, who has said that in a fight with Mayweather, "Ronda would rag doll him."
     

    I recall Chuck Lidell predicting Rousey defeating Floyd in less than one minute and Ronda appeared willing to take on the fight as well.

    If the fight happened, I would have bet on Rousey.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

  423. @Rockford Tyson
    @Rosie

    "Aw did I hurt your feelings? If you have a problem with the term “expendable,” take it up with the manosphere. I don’t much care for it myself. Of course, men are only “expendable” in a relative sense."

    Men are not expendable at all. We create literally everything.It is you women who are 100$ expendable. With induced multipotent stem cells and artificial wombs, women are 100% irrelevant. A man could actually just clone himself or have a son/daughter with simple insertion of another "X" or "Y" chromossome.

    "Lol that’s fucking absurd. What sort of mother did you have?"

    LOL, you post a link to church going? Yeah, that's a very convincing argument of how necessary women are. Spreading pathetic Bronze Age superstitions to their children. And this is the difference between men and woman: men pass to their kids real facts, like science and financal advice on how to survive in the World; women pass on bullshit. I did learn something from my mom, though: how to manipulate and deceive. You called me a psychopath, clearly showing you have no idea what that word means. But If I am, I have my mom to thank for. And no, she wasn't any worse than the average woman: just typical of her gender.

    "Sorry, little boy, but you are a textbook psychopath. The dehumanization of others (“breeding cow”) is a dead giveaway."

    If I am a little boy, you have the brains(or lack thereof) an unborn fetus.

    "No you just call us stupid, otherwise useless “breeding animals.”

    As usual, the misogynist cries out as he strikes you."

    You clearly don't know how to read. Nowhere do I deny that I said those things. My point is, I never said women are expendable like you said of men. I neve3r stated that women are less worthy of LIFE because of their gender, which is what you implied with your comment.

    I am going to give you some word of advice, "Rosie": you are not very smart. Your arguments are poor, and easily disproven by basic facts and deductive logic. Stop arguing with me. It's starting to look really bad for you.

    Replies: @Alden, @Rosie

    With induced multipotent stem cells and artificial wombs, women are 100% irrelevant. A man could actually just clone himself or have a son/daughter with simple insertion of another “X” or “Y” chromossome.

    At least that would spare us the bother of having to live on the same planet as the likes of you.

    Why would you make girls since you’ve decided we’re useless? Since you’re so offended by my words, I’m sure you’ll really be outraged about the millions of girls who are abandoned and killed every year because of ultra misogynist attitudes like yours.

    LOL, you post a link to church going? Yeah, that’s a very convincing argument of how necessary women are. Spreading pathetic Bronze Age superstitions to their children.

    You said: Women don’t pass on culture.

    Fact: Religion is a major component of culture.

    Therefore: You were wrong.

    Of course, not all mothers take their kids to church. Some choose to pass on their love of music or other things. Either way, you are FOS.

    I did learn something from my mom, though: how to manipulate and deceive. You called me a psychopath, clearly showing you have no idea what that word means. But If I am, I have my mom to thank for.

    Oh.

  424. @William Badwhite
    @black sea


    @Rockford Tyson

    Are you drunk?

    I think it’s worse than that.
     
    23 posts to date, most on this thread. Just another troll. Or Mason's drunken alter ego

    Replies: @Rosie

    This deranged lunatic is too stupid to realize that going off on someone you know almost nothing about except a few comments in heated thread is a really good way to make a damned fool of yourself.

    My comment from a thread back in March at the beginning of the lockdown:

    The thing is, I have no choice but to go shopping. I could send Mr. Rosie, of course, but then that never ends well. Besides, I’m more disposable than him at this juncture, anyway.

    There should be masks and gloves available when I walk into the grocery store.

    Comment #86

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/doctors-beds-ventilators/

  425. @Unzerker
    @Rosie

    This is a regular occurrence.

    Here is another example:
    https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/australian-womens-national-team-lose-70-to-team-of-15yearold-boys-a3257266.html

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    James Benge, the reporter, talking about the women’s team coach, can’t help sticking the shiv in at the end:

    “Van Egmond will presumably hope that their next opponents New Zealand don’t have any plans to sneak any children into their side.”

  426. @Anonymous
    What is your opinion about this Steve?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/america-isnt-falling-apart-its-still-the-land-of-opportunity?ref=author


    More than 840,000 green card holders became citizens last year, the most in a decade. Over 10 percent of the American electorate was born elsewhere, the highest share in a half-century. All of Donald Trump’s huffing and puffing could not stop this demographic evolution; nor could an endless stream of stories about what an unequal, unfair, and no good place America has supposedly become.

    The ground-level integration of America—what my friend Sergio Munoz calls “the multiculturalism of the streets”—continues with ever greater mingling, epitomized by the rise and acceptance of interracial dating, up 40 percent since 2003, and marriage.

    What Trump and his most dedicated opponents have both had trouble appreciating is that, rather than a chaotic future defined by racial conflict, most Americans want both order and justice. Most Americans initially supported the George Floyd protests but soon overwhelmingly rejected the violence and looting that accompanied them. Racial minorities, like other Americans, are increasingly heterodox in their political views.

    This was evident in Trump—an unpleasant and unprincipled man frequently labeled as a “racist” in the mainstream media, a term also applied to his voters— improving in 2020 on his 2016 results with most minorities, including a significant gain in the Latino vote, particularly in Florida and Texas, and among Black men. In California, Asian voters also didn’t flock to Trump, but they helped reject an affirmative action measure bankrolled by the tech oligarchs. In heavily Asian Orange County, Biden won comfortably but the affirmative action measure lost 2-to-1, and two Korean American women replaced Democratic congresspeople. The measure was also crushed in heavily Latino interior counties,.

    California Vote Exposes the Limits of Identity Politics
    LOSING TACT
    Lloyd Green

    Another issue where elite support and popular opinion diverge is defunding the police, a position that the vast majority of Americans—including millennials and minorities—do not favor. As my colleague Charles Blain points out, when the Houston city council was swamped with testimony from residents pushing for the dismantling of the city’s Police Department, Black council members and Mayor Sylvester Turner pushed back, saying that these people clearly didn’t spend time in the communities that they claimed to support. A similar dynamic played out in New York, where Black City Council members held the line against a push to slash the NYPD budget by $1 billion.



    Economics account for some of Trump’s gains among minority voters. Before the pandemic, most minority workers had done better in terms of income under his administration than they had under previous administrations from both parties. Like working-class people in general, most African Americans did worse economically under Barack Obama despite the enormous boost in political power and influence for portions of the African American upper class on his watch.

    Latinos, suggests former California state Senate Majority Leader Gloria Romero. have been devastated by the state’s more extreme lockdowns, and angered to see their putative advocates, like Gavin Newsom or Nancy Pelosi, flaunt their privilege in luxury and even violate their own rules as “ordinary people have literally been arrested and even thrown in jail for opening their businesses to just survive and feed their families.”

    At the same time, the “woke” views adopted increasingly by corporate America and the mainstream media often do not play well with many immigrants, who, according to one recent survey, are twice as conservative in their social views as the general public. That dynamic may also explain Trump’s gains among culturally conservative Muslim voters and orthodox Jewish voters.

    How the Virus Is Pushing America Toward a Better Future
    GET LOST, DOOMSTERS
    Joel Kotkin

    The growing heterodoxy among minorities can also be seen in their growing geographic dispersion. The notion of minorities clustered in true blue urban enclaves is increasingly antiquated. According to statistics compiled by demographer Wendell Cox in a newly released report, minority populations are growing most rapidly in the South, the Intermountain West and parts of the Great Plains.

    For example, the fastest growth among Black households since 2000 has been in Phoenix; Salt Lake City; Boise, Idaho; Fayetteville, Arkansas; and Las Vegas. Meanwhile the Black population has stagnated in Chicago, New York, and San Jose, and actually declined in the Los Angeles and San Francisco metros. Where 1 in 7 San Franciscans was Black in 1970, today it’s barely 1 in 20.

    Similarly Hispanic growth has been most notable in the South, with growth of over 200 percent in Knoxville and Nashville, Tennessee, and Charlotte, North Carolina, while slowing to roughly one-tenth that pace over the past two decades in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, and San Jose. Similar patterns can be seen among Asians, where cities such as Indianapolis, Fayetteville, Charlotte, Raleigh, and Las Vegas have seen increases over the past two decades of 200 percent or more—four times the rate of Los Angeles, which has the nation’s largest Asian community.

    According to Cox, the demographer, foreign-born populations follow a similar pattern: stagnating and even declining in places like Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago while expanding rapidly in places like Atlanta, Orlando, Charlotte, Kansas City, Nashville, and Louisville. In these areas immigrants generally live with other groups; there are ethnic malls, but not large one-race enclaves.

    The suburbs, not the city, now dominates the non-white experience in America. The model of 1950s and 1960s “white flight” no longer holds. In the 50 largest US metropolitan areas, 44 percent of residents live in racially and ethnically diverse suburbs, ranging from 20 percent to 60 percent non-white. In Atlanta, for example, more than 70 percent of Blacks and Hispanics live in the outer suburbs. Nationwide, in the 53 metropolitan areas with more than a million residents, more than three-quarters of Blacks and Hispanics now live in suburban or exurban areas.

    Most minorities still seek out “the American dream”, notes a recent AEI study, but many lack the conviction they can achieve it.

    One way to achieve the dream is to move—property remains key to financial security. Homes today account for roughly two-thirds of the wealth of middle-income Americans. Home owners have a median net worth more than 40 times that of renters, according to the Census Bureau. Yet in some parts of the country, notably California and the Northeast, housing prices are often out of reach for most minorities.

    In many southern metropolitan areas, like Atlanta, Black home-ownership exceeds 50 percent compared to one-third in Los Angeles, Boston, or New York. Among large metros, Atlanta and Oklahoma City rank highest in best housing affordability for African Americans; for Hispanics, Pittsburgh, Akron and St. Louis stand out while the least affordable housing markets include the four large California metros, Honolulu, and Boston. Asians also follow this pattern, with better affordability in the South and Midwest, while ownership is much lower in traditional Asian hubs as New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Honolulu.

    Minorities are leaving our biggest, densest cities not because they do not love the cultural amenities of New York or California, but for basic economic opportunity created, in part, by underserved markets, lower taxes, lower costs, fewer regulations on new businesses.

    This follows an old American tradition. Economically driven migration in the late 19th century and early 20th century saw Scottish, Scandinavian, and German migrants head to the Great Plains, Armenians to California’s Central Valley, and Mexicans early in the last century to the Southeast and the cities of the North.

    Today immigrants are transforming and re-energizing the Heartland and the South in surprising ways. Nashville may be the country music capital but it is also home to a Little Kurdistan, a Somali community and a growing Latino presence. When I went with my younger daughter to Fargo last summer, we stumbled, in our surprise, on a Thai ice cream parlor. In places like Grand Island, Nebraska, you can run into streets filled with Honduran eateries, servicing the largely Latino workforce that works in the meat packing plants.

    Republicans may fret about the political effect of these diverse populations, who may lean Democratic but the newcomers also are making these places both more economically vibrant and attractive to skilled workers, as demonstrated in a recent report from Heartland Forward. It is also likely that minorities living in more conservative places, starting businesses and buying homes, may be less predictably lockstep in their politics; in Texas, where Latinos generally do better and are more able to buy homes than in California or New York, they also tend to split their votes more evenly between the parties.

    It is in these new places of opportunity—suburbs, small cities, Sunbelt boom towns—that America’s racial quandary can be settled, quietly and with less rancor. “The multiculturalism of the streets” where newcomers meet, eat, work, and even marry with the majority population, is where the burden of our historical racial legacy is being overcome, if only people would bother to see it.

    Replies: @bomag

    Well, it’s not that our neo-Brazil is that bad of a place, it is that it could have been nicer than what we have to put up with today.

  427. Using, displaying, and referencing genitalia to sexually dominate or intimidate others: Men

    Using, displaying, and referencing genitalia to make money, manipulate others, and gain political power: Women.

  428. I have to weigh in on this Rockford/Rosie grudge match (which Rockford is clearly winning, ironically, despite Rosie getting in a few good licks on occasion).

    The reality is that the biological sexes are complementary, so all arguments about artificial asexual reproduction aside, both males and females are vital to the species simply from a continuity standpoint, and as far as nuture of young of both sexes and being the progenitor of gender roles, normal socialization, and personal values, both indispensable. This well-borne out from looking at the rates of homosexuality in the offspring of homosexual adoption as well as rates of dysfunction in single parent families. Children require a nuclear family with both bio dad and mom present to thrive, in general. There is of course, a range of exceptions where children may thrive without this, or where they are even better off without this, but this is to be expected and does not diminish the validity of the general case.

    As far as economic utility and the critical work of invention/innovation, construction, defense, and agression, its clear that there are few things women can do, or tasks that they can perform that men cannot, but the reverse is simply not true.

    This is very anecdotal, of course, but backed up by employment data if you really care to delve into it: women don’t do dangerous, dirty, or physically extreme work. If they do, they generally are inferior to men in terms of the performance of that work.

    I can personally say I’ve never seen a female on a scaffold, roofing a house, hanging drywall. I’ve never gotten a female plumber, electrician, or exterminator. Never gotten a lady tow truck operator, or seen a female garbage person riding the back of a truck (despite there being no law or regulation that prohibited that during the era when that’s how garbage was picked up).

    I did fly on a plane recently captained by a woman – it was fine and she performed a flawless landing. Had female doctors, seen female EMTs. Most radiologist techs, most nurses, most phlebotomists are female, as are most intake staff. Most K-12 teachers are female. Most librarians are female as are most licensed therapists. There are perhaps hundreds of examples of similar jobs dominated by women.

    Women appear to focus on the “best” jobs available , which tend to be professional or white-colar in nature, high-paying, low-stress, well-esteemed, involve little or no physical effort or hazard, and demand vociferously that they should be equally (and even disproportionately – as they often are) represented in all of these desirable fields.

    But oddly, for some reason, this position is not applied to the dirty, dangerous, tough work that is still done, nearly exclusively, by men.

    I’ll just leave you with that.

  429. @TWS
    @lavoisier

    You're wrong.

    Replies: @lavoisier

    If a female MMA Champion faced off against a golden gloves boxer who would win?

    Well consider this example: Floyd Mayweather and Ronda Rousey. Mayweather is a man who is both slightly taller and heavier. Rousey won an Olympic gold medal in judo and had been undefeated in mixed martial arts fights before losing to Holm. If she was able to get Mayweather on the ground, where he doesn’t have any experience, he would likely be submitted quickly..

    Here is what some experts think about a fight between a female MMA champion and arguably the greatest boxer who ever lived–not just some regional golden gloves champion.

    Brian Michelino, a coach at Long Island Mixed Martial Arts in New York, a gym that trains several UFC fighters, predicted Rousey’s more diverse skill set would help her defeat Mayweather in an MMA fight. While boxing strictly involves punching, MMA incorporates kicking and grappling techniques designed for fighting on the ground.

    “In an MMA fight I’m pretty confident that she would mess him up, especially since Floyd Mayweather does not have grappling experience,” Michelino said.

    His comments echoed those of UFC president Dana White, who has said that in a fight with Mayweather, “Ronda would rag doll him.”

    I recall Chuck Lidell predicting Rousey defeating Floyd in less than one minute and Ronda appeared willing to take on the fight as well.

    If the fight happened, I would have bet on Rousey.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @lavoisier


    If the fight happened, I would have bet on Rousey.
     
    I would have been glad to take the other side of that bet.
  430. @lavoisier
    @TWS

    If a female MMA Champion faced off against a golden gloves boxer who would win?

    Well consider this example: Floyd Mayweather and Ronda Rousey. Mayweather is a man who is both slightly taller and heavier. Rousey won an Olympic gold medal in judo and had been undefeated in mixed martial arts fights before losing to Holm. If she was able to get Mayweather on the ground, where he doesn't have any experience, he would likely be submitted quickly..

    Here is what some experts think about a fight between a female MMA champion and arguably the greatest boxer who ever lived--not just some regional golden gloves champion.

    "


    Brian Michelino, a coach at Long Island Mixed Martial Arts in New York, a gym that trains several UFC fighters, predicted Rousey's more diverse skill set would help her defeat Mayweather in an MMA fight. While boxing strictly involves punching, MMA incorporates kicking and grappling techniques designed for fighting on the ground.

    "In an MMA fight I’m pretty confident that she would mess him up, especially since Floyd Mayweather does not have grappling experience," Michelino said.

    His comments echoed those of UFC president Dana White, who has said that in a fight with Mayweather, "Ronda would rag doll him."
     

    I recall Chuck Lidell predicting Rousey defeating Floyd in less than one minute and Ronda appeared willing to take on the fight as well.

    If the fight happened, I would have bet on Rousey.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    If the fight happened, I would have bet on Rousey.

    I would have been glad to take the other side of that bet.

    • Agree: TWS
  431. @Truth
    @wren

    Quite an interesting guy.

    https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/19823/bp-unfiltered-the-worlds-fastest-typist-and-a-half-century-of-baseball/

    Replies: @wren

    Yeah, he seems to deserve more fame than he has gotten.

    I showed that article to my friend and co-worker a few years ago when I originally saw the YouTube video and thought that his life would make a good musical.

    My co-worker got really excited about that idea for a day or two anyway.

    He sings in restaurants in the evenings and occasional community theater productions.

    He played a very good Gary Coleman in Avenue Q a few years ago. He’s six something and probably about 250 or so.

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