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From the New York Times:

Jeffrey Epstein Raked In $200 Million After Legal and Financial Crises

By Matthew Goldstein and Steve Eder
Oct. 3, 2019

Jeffrey Epstein’s biggest client had deserted him, his money management firm had lost more than $150 million during the financial crisis, and he was a registered sex offender. But after he started a new company with a wildly speculative business plan in 2012, Mr. Epstein had no problem pulling in cash.

His start-up, Southern Trust, reported more than $200 million in revenues over the next five years, according to a review of previously unreported financial statements filed in the Virgin Islands.

Despite a name that calls to mind a financial services firm, the fledgling company with a handful of employees said it was developing a DNA data-mining service. Southern Trust was trying to gauge customers’ predisposition to cancer by “basically organizing mathematical algorithms,” Mr. Epstein told Virgin Islands officials as he sought a lucrative tax break in 2012.

My impression is that when it comes to respectable good governance, the American Virgin Islands make Puerto Rico look like New Hampshire.

Mr. Epstein’s business revival is documented in financial statements and other filings obtained by The New York Times. The documents — from Southern Trust and his earlier firm, Financial Trust — offer a glimpse of Mr. Epstein’s mysterious finances. They show that Financial Trust peaked at the end of 2004, when it reported $563 million in assets and net income of $108 million. And they demonstrate how Mr. Epstein rebuilt his business in his later years, with Southern Trust reporting $175 million in retained earnings — leftover profits that can be reinvested — in 2017, the last year for which statements were available.

But the documents do not say who was paying vast sums of money to Mr. Epstein’s new venture just a few years after his 2008 guilty plea to soliciting a minor for prostitution. Nor do they offer an explanation for why customers would hand over money to a man who had apparently switched from financial services to DNA research.

They do, however, offer a reason for that sudden change in focus. In 2012, Mr. Epstein asked the Virgin Islands Economic Development Authority to note that Financial Trust no longer managed money, so it would not have to register with federal securities regulators as required under the Dodd-Frank Act. Later that year, Financial Trust was replaced by Southern Trust, which Mr. Epstein told territorial officials would still maintain a “financial arm.”

The single-page unaudited financial statements for both companies — obtained through a public-records lawsuit against the territory’s Division of Corporations and Trademarks — are littered with curious line items.

At Financial Trust, a company with fewer than a dozen employees, investment expenses varied widely, from $1.3 million in 2000 to $16 million in 2004 to $42 million in 2005. In 2006 — the year Mr. Epstein was charged in Florida — Financial Trust pushed $117 million into an unnamed subsidiary whose purpose was undisclosed. The subsidiary was apparently transferred to Southern Trust in 2013, and by the end of 2017 the subsidiary accounted for more than half of the company’s $391 million in assets. The filings also disclose that Southern Trust received a $30.5 million loan that same year, but don’t say who provided it.

One thing the financial statements make clear: Mr. Epstein paid himself handsomely. He pocketed $400 million in dividends and other payments from the companies starting in 1999 — the first full year after he moved his operations to the Virgin Islands from New York.

The opacity of Mr. Epstein’s financial dealings has been a perplexing issue since he was arrested in July on federal charges of sex trafficking with underage girls. …

Documents obtained from the Virgin Islands Economic Development Authority show how officials rarely pressed Mr. Epstein on his dealings, even as they granted lucrative exemptions that allowed him to pay as little as 10 percent of the effective tax rate in corporate income tax. The tax breaks are granted to companies that agree to minimum hiring requirements and commit to investing at least $100,000 in an industry that advances the territory’s “economic well-being.” Currently 71 companies, including Southern Trust, receive the incentive.

Government watchdogs and others have long criticized the territory’s history of light regulatory oversight. “Rich people have tried to make it their residence and do business there,” said Jack Blum, a Washington lawyer who has led corruption investigations for several Senate committees. “The idea was to keep it all out of the hands of the I.R.S.”

Mr. Epstein set up shop in the Virgin Islands in 1998, calling himself a “financial doctor” who had decided to settle there after “vacationing up and down the world,” according to a transcript of a hearing the next year as he sought tax incentives that were ultimately granted.

 
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  1. Southern Trust was trying to gauge customers’ predisposition to cancer by “basically organizing mathematical algorithms,” Mr. Epstein told Virgin Islands officials

    Megagrifters like Epstein and Madoff have a number of things in common with ghetto con men. Among them the (not unreasonable) suspicion that if they string some big words together, they can pull the wool over the heads of credulous, unsuspecting negroes. Oh wait.

  2. I think I’m gonna change my line of employment.

  3. Tusk says:

    Virgin vs Chad posting on Unz? Now this is what I come here for.

  4. SFG says:

    They seem mostly annoyed a guy can make a living after stuff like this happens. Granted in Epstein’s it was an unusually good living.

    I hold no brief for actual child molesters like Epstein, but they would like to apply this to regular guys who get #MeTooed as well. Notice all the feminists who are watching to make sure none of the MeTooed guys get back up.

  5. Pericles says:

    Somehow reminds me of hot new megagrifter (((Adam Neumann))) and his merry band of Israeli pals at WeWork.

    WeWork Cos. co-founder Adam Neumann has cashed out more than $700 million from the company ahead of its initial public offering through a mix of stock sales and debt, people familiar with the matter said—an unusually large sum given that startup founders typically wait for the IPO to monetize their holdings.

    https://archive.fo/1GtSy
    (“WeWork Co-Founder Has Cashed Out at Least $700 Million Via Sales, Loans”, WSJ)
    The IPO has been shelved.

    The article continues

    Some of the other largest publicly-known sales of stock before an IPO include Zynga Inc. founder and CEO (((Mark Pincus’s))) deal to take more than $109 million off the table before the social-gaming company’s 2011 IPO. (((Eric Lefkofsky))), as executive chairman and co-founder of Groupon Inc., sold more than $300 million in Groupon stock before the 2011 IPO. Both deals attracted criticism at the time, particularly after the companies’ stocks later traded at lower valuations.

    Yeah, lower valuations as in dogs.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  6. Most plausible Epstein enrichment theory: he was helping rich people, multi-billionaires around the world, hide income and assets from tax authorities, business partners and creditors.

    1. It can explain his wealth. Helping five men hide $10 billion apiece is worth 1% or $500 million, Epstein’s wealth.

    2. It explains why none of his ‘victims’ have complained.

    3. It fits his personality, smart, familiar with financial markets, dishonest and always looking for a scam.

    4. It fits his habits, always seeking to meet rich men or famous men, like Clinton, who could introduce him to, or vouch for him with, rich men.

    5. It fits the euphemism he used when asked what he did for living: he managed money. He certainly did.

  7. Hail says: • Website
    @Henry Canaday

    Explain how “He belongs to intelligence” fits in that scenario.

  8. Steve, you may want to re-think this one. Would it not be confusing if America were to buy the Bogomerom archipelago instead of Greenland? The Bogomerom archipelago, in Lake Chad, known by the Romans as “lake of hippopotamus and rhinoceros”, would probably be cheaper and more ice-free than Greenland, and we could set up a modern DEW line in defense of nukes out of Niger. It’s just that there’d be two sets of American Chad Islands then.

    How about we just call them the ISlands, the Ignorant Slut lands?

  9. El Dato says:

    Semi Off-Topic:

    An incoherent proposal on how to forcefully get women into IT or boardrooms or something by some Mark Pesce who posts about his orally absorbing Big Whoopers on Twitter.

    The immovable object versus the unstoppable force: How the tech boys club remains exclusive: The solution? A generation of woman being preferred for promotion over men

    … Could it be, as Harvard President Lawrence Summers publicly mused 15 years ago, that women just don’t have the brains for such analytic tasks? (That gaffe cost Summers his job.) Or perhaps those hobbyist “microcomputers”, exclusively advertised to boys (and manchildren), cut women out of the fun?

    Even in recent years, with a redoubled focus on closing the gender gap in technology, it has remained stubbornly persistent. Why?

    Epstein, it seems, had spread some of his wealth throughout elite communities of scientists and tech innovators – enabled, it would appear, by literary-agent-to-the-Nobel-Prize-set John Brockman.

    Brockman hosted “Billionaire Dinners” through the 1990s and 2000s, events where the wealthy and powerful rubbed shoulders with the best and brightest. Yet, with very few exceptions, invitations to these events went to men of influence and power.

    We now know that some of the greatest names in computing [who?] had seats at that table. And we know – because a few brave women have begun to tell their stories – that their misogynistic behaviour extended well beyond that supper club. We’re beginning to see how an entire generation of women found their way forward in computer science effectively barred by misogyny at the highest levels. It’s sad, disgusting, infuriating – and demands remediation.

    To begin with, we must now, and forever after, view every “boys club” as fundamentally suspicious – as a potential threat.

    In addition, we will need a long period – at least a generation [????] – where women are favoured over men for funding and promotion. Some will call that unfair – as James Damore did at Google – but that’s precisely the reverse of the truth. The systematic discrimination exposed by the multitude of boys’ clubs operating in both the sciences and technology shouts out for a balancing of the scales as the only possible remedy.

    I suppose we will have to get official passports to be allowed in “clubs” now, and the members lists will have to be checked for quota by a servant of the Maoist State. Or Antifa can just go and trash the boardrooms and hacker clubs as “Bestrafung”. And why stop there? We could have forced diversity everywhere.

    While this bullshit recedes in the Red Sunset,

    Here is something far more interesting from Communications of the ACM, June 2019, from The Growing Tension Between ­Undergraduate and K-12: Is CS for All, or Just Those Who Get Past the Caps?

    We may be approaching an inflection point in computing education — and maybe it’s one we’ve seen before. Eric Roberts of Stanford has written a history of undergraduate CS enrollments dating back over 30 years (see link here). He suggests that the downturn in enrollment in the late 1980’s may have been the result of CS departments’ inability to manage rising CS enrollments in the early 1980’s. Then, as now, caps and limits were put into place, which sent the message that computer science wasn’t for everyone, that only elite students could succeed in computer science. Eric writes:

    The imposition of GPA thresholds and other strategies to reduce enrollment led naturally to a change in how students perceived computer science. In the 1970s, students were welcomed eagerly into this new and exciting field. Around 1984, everything changed. Instead of welcoming students, departments began trying to push them away. Students got that message and concluded that they weren’t wanted. Over the next few years, the idea that computer science was competitive and unwelcoming became widespread and started to have an impact even at institutions that had not imposed limitations on the major.

    Isn’t the early 80s exactly the moment when IT lost the distaff part?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Pericles
  10. Art Deco says:
    @Hail

    Three hypotheses:

    1. No one ever said ‘he belongs to intelligence’ and Acosta never claimed he did. Some rumor-monger made it up.

    2. No one ever said ‘he belongs to intelligence’. Acosta made that up to conceal why he’d done what he’d done.

    3. Someone did say ‘he belongs to intelligence’, covering up the real reason the divisions in Washington wanted to let him slide.

    The plea agreement in question was concluded in the interval between Alberto Gonzales departure from the department and Michael Mukasey’s arrival, so it’s a reasonable inference the ultimate say-so was from a second-echelon figure if it wasn’t Acosta himself. The woman in charge of the Criminal Division during the 2d Bush Administration was one Alice Fisher, supposedly a protegee of Michael Chertoff. The Deputy Attorney-General (ad interim) was an IRS / Justice Department lifer named Craig Morford.

  11. ex-banker says:

    Why should we assume there is any legitimacy to the figures in these documents? They were apparently publicly available and unaudited. What better low stakes way to perpetuate the con of how he was still loaded and running a flourishing business.

  12. Any more stories like this, and I’ll be convinced that the world above $50M ($25M? $100M? Lower, higher?) in assets is just a giant money-churning, tax-evasion scheme engineered by people who do whatever tf they want.

    They’re the actual sovereigns, so they should just be given the government.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  13. Bill says:
    @Henry Canaday

    Most plausible Epstein enrichment theory: he was helping rich people, multi-billionaires around the world, hide income and assets from tax authorities

    And the underage prostitution and blackmail operations were, what, a leisure-time activity?

  14. Mr. Anon says:

    Despite a name that calls to mind a financial services firm, the fledgling company with a handful of employees said it was developing a DNA data-mining service.

    As indeed it was. It had a library of DNA samples from any number of influential men, which library could be mined………………unless they knew what was good for them.

    • Agree: Cortes
  15. @Hail

    Intelligence agencies NEVER have to hide or secretly move money?

  16. eric says:

    Steve Hsu is a leader in developing GWAS, and while they are often statistically significant, the results generate weak correlations. Further, if you tried to use this genetic information after controlling for standard factors–age, race, height, weight, education–the results are probably zero. No one would pay $200 million to know them before everyone else.

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
  17. @Tusk

    8chan is still down isn’t it? It’s been months since I’ve seen a quality virgin vs. Chad edit. Sadly, the wait continues, this one is barely a step above reddit posting.

    • Replies: @Tusk
  18. @eric

    Obviously, this is not legit.

    Bioscience startups generally make huge losses for many years. Most then fold, and a small fraction are bought by Big Pharma. Almost none ever become profitable in their own right.

    So, does the US goverment have any control over the USVI? Can they impose anti-money laundering regulations?

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  19. @Henry Canaday

    He spent too much time partying to actively manage billions.

    I think Sailer was right when he compared him to Charles Manson. Manson got into the Hollywood crowd by providing them with underaged girls.

    And that was Epstein’s USP for the billionaire set.

  20. The article reads as if it was written by Captain Louis Renault. The reporter is shocked to find that Epstein’s finances were shady, and can’t imagine how that might have happened, nor that it required the active involvement of multiple governments and many private individuals.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  21. Spangel says:
    @Henry Canaday

    Agree that something like that is more plausible than either theories involving mossad or the idea that he made all this money from being a pimp to the wealthy.

    Epstein was supposedly worth around 500m. Maybe he wasn’t really, but at the very least he got wexner to give him his 77m Manhattan mansion for no apparent reason years after wexner accused Epstein of stealing millions of dollars from him.

    How does one amass 500m by procuring and selling girls? There are pimps all around the world and plenty who cater to wealthy clients like the sultan of Bahrain or Saudi princes. Find me one that is worth tens of millions mainly because of pimping.

    Then there is the intelligence angle…why would any intelligence agency want to be associated with someone who seeks that much attention? Epstein wanted to be a celebrity like Donald trump. Someone who was covered by the media and known wherever he went.

    What makes sense is that he laundered money for tax evasion purposes for wealthy people.

  22. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:

    This just continues to feed Mickey Kaus’s paranoia.

  23. Anonymous[154] • Disclaimer says:

    His scam warrants unraveling, despite his death. Even ignoring the most lurid accusations against him and his supposed network, the scale of his financial fraud (which is what numerous papers have called the source of his wealth) and its purported connections surely warrants further investigation. They are continuing to investigate, right?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  24. @Hail

    It makes sense that supra government intelligence agencies would ally with very wealthy individuals, especially those who attained wealth in sub or supra market activity. Plenty of common ground there.

  25. Is it too soon to make the crack that Epstein was a hanging Chad…?

  26. My impression is that when it comes to respectable good governance, the American Virgin Islands make Puerto Rico look like New Hampshire.

    I was there a few years ago and this certainly seems correct.

    The way around each island is by unlicensed cab, and it’s ten dollars a head no matter how far you’re going. Our guy and his wife were really nice, long time resident refugees from Montserrat and the eruption there in the 1990s. The husband carried a sidearm with him at all times, and claimed to be in the inner circle of the then governor and to have a day job working in the government (he said accounts for his ability to carry) and touted these as selling points for his service over all of the others.

    My brother and I were there to fish for Atlantic Blue Marlin at the North Drop between St. Thomas and Puerto Rico and the driver’s wife gave us a ride to Red Hook early every morning. One morning, the wife was driving when we alighted upon a car accident and dozens of young men in a large argument which looked like it was about to turn physical. Wife turns to me and says, matter of factly: “N***ers always f*ck everything up.” I wasn’t sure whether I was permitted to agree or laugh but it’s something that comes up from time to time. Turns out that the young men were most likely Haitian day laborers . . .

  27. @Art Deco

    Fourth Hypothesis-

    4. He belongs to intelligence.

    • LOL: Hail
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  28. I had a guy in the USVI try to rent out his “sister” to me: He assured me she was a virgin. There are no virgins in the Virgin Islands.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  29. Forbes says:
    @Henry Canaday

    I don’t know that I agree–but it’s a far better speculation or presumption than the NYT article which is a complete joke, i.e. the article is worth than nothing.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
  30. @Clifford Brown

    My hypothesis is that our dearly beloved Art Deco is a nom-de-souris for Dave Barry.

    1. “Art Deco” just screams “Miami”, where Barry lives.

    2. Our Deco is well-informed on matters New York, upstate and down-. Barry grew up in the Hudson Valley.

    3. Barry cracks more jokes in the average paragraph than Deco does in a year. This would be an ideal ruse to put snoopers off his trail.

  31. Yes, let’s glorify a literal child molester and serial rapist, and in so doing minimise his victims. Sailer’s bootlicking is disgusting.

  32. Kronos says:
    @Tusk

    It’s been done (quite successfully) a few times.

  33. Kronos says:
    @SFG

    That’s a core observation in Vox Day’s “SJWs Always Lie” book series. They isolate the target, then swarm.

  34. @Thulean Friend

    A shiksa is worthless to some.

    In the neighborhood, Epstein’s co-ethnic is the prime suspect in the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @kaganovitch
  35. Ibound1 says:

    Any big breakthroughs in the DNA “research”. Any major medications developed on PedoChad Island? I mean he raised hundreds of millions.

    No? No big medical breakthroughs at all?

    What a shock.

  36. @SFG

    They seem mostly annoyed a guy can make a living after stuff like this happens. Granted in Epstein’s it was an unusually good living.

    I hold no brief for actual child molesters like Epstein, but they would like to apply this to regular guys who get #MeTooed as well.

    Wrong. There is another juicy scandal here that hasn’t been uncovered.

    Epstein made $200 million with this mysterious Southern Trust company since 2012. How? Who paid him?

    There is absolutely more scandal to be uncovered.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  37. Not Raul says:
    @Massimo Heitor

    Probably, the main thing Southern Trust did was money laundering; but if they actually did analyze DNA, it was probably as a contractor of an intelligence agency: DNA can be used to identify troublesome natives, and relatives than can be pressured.

  38. @Forbes

    … the NYT article which is a complete joke, i.e. the article is worth than nothing.

    I see nothing wrong with the NYT article. If I have any criticism of the media on Epstein, it’s not doing more investigative work. And I’m sympathetic that often that is hard to monetize.

    The Epstein story is under-investigated. There is a juicy scandal waiting to be exposed.

    I’m not a journalist or an investigator, but if I were, this would be a top target.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  39. @Thulean Friend

    Which of Steve’s own 27 words constitutes “bootlicking”?

    Is brain-freeze already setting in in Thule? It’s only two weeks after the equinox, and the temperatures are only slightly below zero– Celsius.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qaanaaq

    https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/greenland/qaanaaq/climate

    Pituffik on you!

    • Agree: Bubba
  40. Alden says:
    @Amerimutt Golems

    Who was the Jew who killed, helped kill, or hid the body of Natalee Holloway?

  41. @Henry Canaday

    Some form of money laundering is indicated whenever an entity or individual: (a) gets large inputs of money from unidentified sources for no apparent reason; (b) does nothing of any apparent value; and (c) nevertheless outputs huge salaries and profits at the other end.

    When you think about it, claiming to do scientific R&D is a perfect way to launder money. You can pretend to pour a bazillion dollars into it and when there is nothing tangible on the other side of the balance sheet, you can just say “well, the science just didn’t pan out, ‘whattya gonna do’.” It’s sort of like deliberately producing a flop musical about Adolph Hitler.

    Anyway, there’s a million reasons to launder money. To answer the “who and why” you’d need to carefully analyze who was *really* providing the inputs and who was *really* benefiting from the outputs. As a private, off shore entity the books will naturally be unauditable, however.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  42. @Art Deco

    Ghislaine Maxwell was Jeffrey Epstein’s Mossad control. Ms. Maxwell’s katsa was Jack Chiclets.

  43. Anonymous[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    CS as such, beyond a hobby level , IS elite stuff. Workaday computer stuff like most businesses need is now covered by MIS or whatever DeVry calls their program. If you are writing operating systems, compilers, etc or designing a new processor architecture that is CS. If you are doing systems admin or managing databases, no.

  44. @jimmyriddle

    I’m beginning to suspect Netflix is a laundry for progressive elites. A friend of mine is looking to sell an epic 182 page screenplay which tells the story of the various right-wing groups and ex-Company men involved in weapons and cocaine trafficking in 1980s Central America. Maybe he should consider Netflix.

  45. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    The 4 items of clothing is a false note though. Epstein would only wear his polo shirts once, and then give them to his maids to use as rags.

  46. @Amerimutt Golems

    In the neighborhood, Epstein’s co-ethnic is the prime suspect in the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway.

    Joran van der Sloot is Jewish? Any evidence? Or is your contention that Epstein is Dutch?

  47. El Dato says:
    @Pericles

    Partying like it’s 1999!!!

  48. El Dato says:
    @Cloudbuster

    But the Captain was just being sarcastic; he was on the whole a cynical person.

  49. J.Ross says:

    Tax evasion, trafficking, imprisonment, gambling and pedophilia and, with our stunning batting-a-negative-thousand Comeyized FBI, the destruction of evidence, are obviously freebies on the Billionaire Islands, but also, how easy must it be to murder people?

  50. J.Ross says:
    @Thulean Friend

    You have misunderstood, Epstein is so radioactive that just bringing him up is the knifetwist. I don’t have this but a savage comedian tweeted in response to a cancel culture censorship call that he expressed condolences to Democrats out there mourning the loss of their great benefactor and friend.

  51. Dumbo says:

    I think this kinda shows is that, when there’s a lot of money involved, no one asks too much where it comes from, provided they can get a cut. The idea that there is less corruption in the US that in third-world countries is laughable. There is much more, and at much higher amounts, they are just better at hiding it or make it “legal”.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  52. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    The older I get the less surprised I am when it turns out that the very purpose of some business or some new initiative or line in an existing business is actually either to fail or to accomplish some purpose entirely different from the stated and presumable one.

    Did Ted Waitt deliberately engineer Gateway to implode so he could walk away with a billion dollars in hi early 50s with no further fuss, bother or expectations? Maybe.

    Large corporations discontinue entirely successful legacy products all the time so they don’t get trapped into keeping the cash cow going forever, and a successful line of business may be set up to fail so that the head cheese can rid himself of a troublesome underling who will “own” the failure and be dispatched.

  53. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Massimo Heitor

    There is a juicy scandal waiting to be exposed.

    I’m not a journalist or an investigator, but if I were, this would be a top target.

    My guess is that it could also be a damn dangerous one. My guess is that even real bull dog reporters are scared of this one and likely for good reason.

  54. His start-up, Southern Trust, reported more than $200 million in revenues over the next five years, according to a review of previously unreported financial statements filed in the Virgin Islands.

    Despite a name that calls to mind a financial services firm, the fledgling company with a handful of employees said it was developing a DNA data-mining service. Southern Trust was trying to gauge customers’ predisposition to cancer by “basically organizing mathematical algorithms,” Mr. Epstein told Virgin Islands officials as he sought a lucrative tax break in 2012.

    … Southern Trust reporting $175 million in retained earnings — leftover profits that can be reinvested — in 2017, the last year for which statements were available.

    If Southern Trust was legitimately earning this much money by combining DNA data-mining and oncology, it would be one of the hottest medical technology startups in the world. We would all have heard of it; we would be considering getting our own DNA investigated, and possibly investing in the company too. It would not need a publicity budget because the media would write its stories for free.

  55. @SFG

    I hold no brief for actual child molesters like Epstein…

    I barely know who Jeffrey Epsteain even was. But is there any actual evidence he was a child molester? Having had intercourse with a young woman (age: 16), for example, doesn’t indicate one is a child molester. Every heterosexual man finds pretty 16-year old females to be attractive at some level. Child molesters are different from normal men. They want to fuck five-year-olds, for example. Epstein doesn’t seem to have been one of those, but perhaps I missed something.

  56. So far no ties between Epstein and Morris Dee’s, right? SPLC money went Cayman, not Virgin. A snake recognizes a snake and stays away I guess

  57. Tusk says:
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    Yeah and 8chan isn’t coming back at all apparently, so one more free speech website down for the count.

  58. Mr. Blank says:

    I really hope somebody like Michael Lewis will write a book about Jeffrey Epstein. I bet it would the funniest/most horrifying story ever. He’s like the ‘MURICA!!!! version of Rasputin.

  59. Sean says:

    Epstein told lies rather than believing them, and he was smart enough to ‘borrow’ money and use it to make vastly more money, which he didn’t have to give back. Yet while he slept with more beautiful girls than anyone in the history of the world he fathered no children with his deformed and pitiful penis.

    https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/xwnjx4/people-tell-us-how-qanon-destroyed-their-relationships

    Jane had been with her husband for eight years and had just bought a house together. Then, one day in late 2017, he started bringing up Q and the deep-state conspiracy. Jane says she’s not positive where it all stemmed from but it may have come from his friendship with a coworker. From the moment Q was introduced, the relationship changed drastically and her husband was unrecognizable.

    I feel like a ground-zero patient. My husband must have caught on to QAnon very early. It started with an argument one night that came out of nowhere. I was sitting in our kitchen having a smoke before bed. Everything up to that point that night was very quiet. But then he came in full throttle. He came at me freaking, berating me, attacking me about this thing I’ve never heard of, this QAnon stuff. After that first argument, which scared the hell out of me, my life got flipped upside down. It all became about Q from then on. […]

    Joan met her boyfriend on Match.com. It turned out they lived close to each other, were both divorced, and had grown children. They had an amazing first date and, even though they were on opposite sides of the political spectrum, they soon moved in together. They called their relationship their “perfect imperfect life” and discussed the next 30 years they were going to spend together.

    About a year into the relationship I started hearing and learning about QAnon, which quickly became a big, deep, dark rabbit hole for him. He’s a very smart man—he had two college degrees, owns a business, was a great dad.

    I knew Spygate [the idea Obama was spying on the Trump campaign] was really intriguing to him. He liked to try to connect the dots between all these players. But then it became Pizzagate [a secret pedophile conspiracy] and the pedophilia thing and the tribunals and who was going to be hung for treason.

    Epstein wasn’t hung, but he was a successful hyper-capitalist. And he ended up hanging himself of course. Life is a mystery in which one thing is certain: whatever you do you will regret it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  60. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Epstein told lies rather than believing them, and he was smart enough to ‘borrow’ money and use it to make vastly more money, which he didn’t have to give back. Yet while he slept with more beautiful girls than anyone in the history of the world he fathered no children with his deformed and pitiful penis.

    And society is worse off for this?

    I’m glad he never reproduced.

  61. Pericles says:
    @Henry Canaday

    Though hiding money offshore wasn’t exactly difficult before the Obama era. For instance, Jim Simons (jewish hedge fund wizard) turned out to have an extra few billion dollars lying around. As far as I can tell, for someone at Wexner-scale it was mostly a question of calling up your friendly international tax lawyer. And it’s not like Google or Facebook or the rest aren’t doing it today. It seems unlikely that dropout high school teacher Epstein had a lot to add to this.

    So if Epstein was ‘hiding money’, I guess it wasn’t just the surplus of some random goy big shots feeling frisky. Perhaps he was laundering drug money or something? Or, more likely, it could be that Mossad called up some of their patriotic contacts and asked them to park some of their money with Epstein once his usefulness was obvious.

    (I assume we all recall that the father of his gal pal Ghislaine also was quite friendly with Mossad.)

    • Replies: @Sean
  62. Pericles says:
    @El Dato

    The imposition of GPA thresholds and other strategies to reduce enrollment led naturally to a change in how students perceived computer science.

    Wow, I didn’t know CS was open enrollment before the dark era of the 80s. And I guess this unique injustice is not practiced by med school, law school or whatever? We do know Harvard doesn’t exactly limit enrollment by GPA so they should be okay.

    Stanford, MIT, CMU and others should now lead the way and only tenure strong black female professors until 2040 or so. Particularly in STEM.

  63. Pericles says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Lol, OK, the Virgin Islands needed more work but Chad was quite good.

  64. Pericles says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Well, you skipped the 12-year olds, etc. And even 16-year olds are more colloquially known as ‘jail bait’, as actually demonstrated in Epstein’s case. Remember that time when his wrist was slapped so hard it almost hurt?

  65. Sean says:
    @Pericles

    It is far more common and easier to make money legitimately. With Epstein’s background in finance and contacts such as physicists and mathematical biologist Nowak it seems not so unlikely he was incapable of making serious money far over and above the amount he’d stolen from Wexner by a business developing a cancer prediction algorithm.

    Maybe it was a tax scam, but only for himself. Epstein was too high profile and radioactive for doing business with after 2015, and Wexner (the only billionaire deluded enough to give Epstein control over billions) was not going to give him a reference. No one in their right mind trusts a convicted criminal with a fortune not his own

  66. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    I agree. Epstein was not a pedophile. He was not attracted to pre-pubescent girls. He was attracted to 16 year old sexually developed females.

    His sexual preference for 16 year-olds is legal in most states is 16. In Europe the age of consent is typically 15 and in some European nations the age of consent is 14 , such as Austria , Germany and Italy.

  67. Mikes says:

    According to a recent court testimony by Epsteins book-keeper, Epstein got his first funds directly from Robert Maxwell, who was a high-ranking Mossad agent. He also got away from several investigations without getting a scratch before running the latest pedophilia ring with Robert Maxwells daughter, Ghislaine Maxwell, who like Epstein, got off from investigations and she hasnt even been interrogated about running a pedophile ring with Epstein.

  68. Mr. Anon says:
    @The Alarmist

    I had a guy in the USVI try to rent out his “sister” to me: He assured me she was a virgin.

    At least he didn’t inadvertantly tap the old Cheech and Chong joke: “Hey, you wanna make it with my mother? She’s a virgin.”

    • LOL: The Alarmist
  69. Travis says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    true, Epstein does not fit the definition of a pedophile. The age of consent for most of the western world is 16 and is just 13 in Japan, South Korea, China and the Philippines. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (10 U.S.C. § 920b), to which essentially only members of the United States Armed Services and enemy prisoners of war are subject, defines the age of consent as sixteen years but allows an exemption for people who are married to minors 12–15 years old. There is also a mistake-in-age defense if the minor is over 12.

    Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13-year-old and was never considered a pedophile. Pete Rose dated a 14 year-old, in his defense he thought she was 16 (which is the age of consent in Ohio). Actor Doug Hutchison married a 16 year-old when he was 51 in 2011. Charlie Chaplin’s first wife was 16 when they wed, as was his second wife. Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler began hooking up with Julia Holcomb, she was 16 to his 25. David Bowie deflowered multiple 14 and 15 year-old girls. Jimmy Page went on tour with a 15 year-old girl. Elvis began dating Priscilla when she was 14 ,Priscilla wrote that Elvis did everything short of penetrative sex with her the first night they spent together.

    yet none of these men were ever called pedophiles, because pedophiles are not attracted to teenage girls, they are attracted to pre-teens or pre-pubesent girls..

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  70. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dumbo

    The idea that there is less corruption in the US that in third-world countries is laughable. There is much more, and at much higher amounts, they are just better at hiding it or make it “legal”.

    I agree. The amount of money thrown around in American politics is itself a sign of how corrupt it is. It’s just that a great deal of that corruption is legal. The Clinton Foundation, for example, was obviously an influence-peddling racket and political machine. Joe Biden was enriching his sons by leveraging his political influence. Many lawmakers, both Democrat and Republican, become lobbyists after they leave office and trade on their connections and inside information.

  71. Compare and contrast with Belgium’s Marc Dutroux. He was convicted of the kidnapping, rape, and murder of six girls, and probably killed several more. The Belgian authorities ignored evidence that he was part of a ring. Several people connected with the investigation died in mysterious circumstances.

    https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/special-report-the-truth-dies-in-darkness-dutroux/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  72. @Travis

    When I joined the USAF back in the day, one of the jokes of the initial legal briefings about the UCMJ was that “16 will get you 20.” The other was that “the Air Force’s official position on sex is missionary.”

  73. J.Ross says:
    @James N. Kennett

    In fact several of the investigators were clearly covering things up (one responded to his sole companion investigating the dungeon house saying he heard a voice by screaming SILENCE “and, of course, after that, there was no more sound” — they later learned that the companion was correct, but by then the imprisoned girl was unable to name the names of judges or politicians, or to name anyone), the entire nation was roiled in huge demonstrations, and there was a rash of “suicides.”

  74. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    His scam warrants unraveling, despite his death. Even ignoring the most lurid accusations against him and his supposed network, the scale of his financial fraud (which is what numerous papers have called the source of his wealth) and its purported connections surely warrants further investigation. They are continuing to investigate, right?

    Not seriously, one because the powers that be don’t want it, another being even a really talented bulldog would have trouble because of the carefully knitted web of bank secrecy laws and loopholes written by high powered lawyers at the behest of the mediocre lawyers that many pols are to give them a hidey hole for their money, and a third because if you did figure it out you might be a target for elimination or professional discrediting.

    Bottom line is he hid a lot of money for a lot of people and a real investigation might turn up some very unpleasant surprises for some very surprising people. No predicting who would be in a heap of trouble. Today’s mainstream reporters are all for one team and they are not going to pull the pin on a grenade that might go either way, might kill them, and even if it works will benefit them not at all. Truth does not matter. We are not here to find the truth, we are here to win.

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