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Today, in recognition of the extraordinary and temporary conditions in Haiti, I am announcing Temporary Protected Status for Haiti for 18 months. This new designation enables eligible Haitian nationals to apply for protected status.https://t.co/CYEtO9ZWcJ pic.twitter.com/ZiznKg0EQI
— Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas (@SecMayorkas) May 22, 2021
In other words, Haiti is just being Haiti, but, to bring in more future Democrat voters, the Biden Administration is going to pretend that the ordinary and permanent conditions in Haiti are “extraordinary and temporary,” at least until another earthquake or hurricane comes along they they can then use as justification for letting in more Haitians.
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Why not let them all in? Exchange some White Americans with all of the Haitians. Blacks get the Magic dirt and whites get the Tragic dirt. I don’t see any downsides to this plan.
By these criteria, they’re just a couple of famines away from letting in 100m Africans.
Mark my words.
Any opposition to 'free' African immigration into the USA will be construed as 'racism'. As 'racism' is highest heresy possible in the USA, exponents of massive African immigration will have the opponents beaten before they even start.
It is permissible to say
that Haiti being in a bad temporary situation because of a hurricane, or because if Trump and white supremacist.
Totally taboo and not permissible to say are
a) Haiti is in a constant terrible state and
b) such misery might be because Haiti genocided all white racists 200 years ago,
or worse
c) whereever there are Blacks is Africa
As long as we accept the racism taboo and the egalitarian dogma, our policies will be wrong
If you want to understand why Haiti is Haiti and Barbados is Barbados, biology doesn't get you very far.Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @bomag, @Mr. Anon
Well, they are the best of the best Negroville has to offer. Straight from Africa with little deviation from their native ways. Do they still practice Voodoo?
Unamusement Park had an excellent story about Haiti.
Does anyone know if this site has been saved to somewhere?
Unamusementpark’s excellent Haiti Article has been copied at
https://human-stupidity.com/equality4/race-equality4/haiti-black-rule
I have yet to try mud cookies.
Temporary Protected Status should be called Forever Protected Status.
Yeah, sure, it’s all about having more Democrat voters. Please. It’s kind of like the stupid “no blood for oil” line of the anti-war left. As if we’ve been involved on multi-trillion wars for decades in the Middle East for oil.
The psychological tics of these people, manifested in written and spoken words, are fascinating as a study in propaganda techniques:
“Temporary conditions.” Means the conditions are permanent.
“After careful consideration”: No consideration whatsoever was given to the matter other than that Haitians are black and will vote Democratic.
“Temporary protected status”: Meaning permanent residence.
“So they may safely return home”: They’re going nowhere. Ever.
Yay. Nothing like more negros from a typical negro s***hole to make America great again. Like we don’t have enough already…
VooDoo. AIDS. Boatloads of illegal aliens.
That’s about all Haiti has to show for about 220 years of Negro rule.
Every Negro country in the world is a failed state.
Angola might work a little also.Replies: @Spect3r
Haiti is where the child-trafficking picked up. Clinton Foundation was all over those kids.
OT
Steve, you’ll be relieved to know that the dangers implicit in Most Important Graph in the World are no longer. The New York Times has the scoop:
Long Slide Looms for World Population, With Sweeping Ramifications
Fewer babies’ cries. More abandoned homes. Toward the middle of this century, as deaths start to exceed births, changes will come that are hard to fathom.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.html
Gosh, all those [non-Hispanic white and Asian] country and continent names reminds me of something … oh yeah, I remember, so I’ll tuck it in right here at the end of graf number 8:
Now back to the main point for the next 34 paragraphs.
Unfortunately, the comments seem to be turned off for this one. And I think the NYT might be on to the tactic of reading the story backwards. They way they buried the lead at the end of the long paragraph 8 and then did a quickie topic change makes it hard to detect with a backwards read.
But then they can't help but get in the mandatory shilling for blowing up nations and ... immigration!The whole depopulation thing is a non-problem.
It's a non-problem because as population goes down the remaining population will increasingly be precisely from those with "breeder" traits. The sane, the healthy, the traditional.
In other words it is an easily self-correcting problem. Cheap housing, high salaries ... uh ... not actual problems!!!
But ...
It is only a non-problem if the immigrationists can be made to STFU. Or beaten into submission.
Or killed. At this point for me--preferably killed, they are a cancer on humanity.
Population drop is a non-problem only if it is allowed to naturally self correct. If not then we really are looking at a black planet and the end of civilization.Replies: @John Johnson
Thirty years ago, you couldn’t donate plasma in the US if you had visited Haiti.
Gay men always had high rates of STDs.
LOL. Improve? Safely return home? They will NEVER return home. It’s easier for the U.S. to become a giant Haiti, than for Haiti to “improve”.
My guess is 100 million Africans in the next few years. To turn the US majority black.
Bottom line, America is dead. Its over. The nation you once lived in is as gone as the Soviet Union or Austro-Hungarian Empire. Its over.
Whites are now the hereditary servant class destined to work extra hard to support the Vibrant. We have no other destiny. The same of course will be true in Europe.
Canada has already announced that they will hit 100 million by the end of this century even though the citizens were never askedReplies: @John Johnson
The Department of Homeland Security can claim no authority for the security of Homelands other than its own.
Over 100,000 Haitians.
300,000 Venezuelans.
Won't work. It's one of the few states that has actually become less friendly to Democrats with time, despite demographics.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
They’re zero famines away. They just haven’t embraced the electoral possibilities yet.
Have more people starved to death in Black countries over the centuries or in China?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines_in_China
America is 59% white in 2021. But I think under a two term Biden admin, whites will become a minority by 2035.
Haiti is the new Puerto Rico …..
This *WILL* come to pass.
Mark my words.
Any opposition to ‘free’ African immigration into the USA will be construed as ‘racism’. As ‘racism’ is highest heresy possible in the USA, exponents of massive African immigration will have the opponents beaten before they even start.
Don’t be Haiti’ng.
Is it time to have the Marines occupy and run Haiti again? They were the last time Haiti had effective government.
Clinton conquered Haiti in 1994.
The DR would go for that.
The New York Times requires a constant supply of immigrants from Third World shitholes to write impassioned op-eds about what a horrible, racist society America is.
Haitians claimed it was New York City gay men who went to Haiti for cheap gay sex winter vacations that brought AIDS to Haiti.
Gay men always had high rates of STDs.
I hope that’s water not gasoline.
Somebody said once that if you swapped the populations of Iceland and Haiti, Haiti would be a paradise in 10 years, and all the Haitians in Iceland would be dead.
Importing Haitians and Somalis and such like into your country is treason.
After a year and a half of lockdowns and PREP starting to make new HIV infections inside the US a possible thing of the past, I’m glad the Biden admin wants to take steps to make sure new HIV case levels get somewhere back to where they were. Build back better!
It will make the societal sacrifice of unprecedented levels of every other kind of STD as a result of near universal PREP use by gay men all the easier to tolerate I’m sure!
A couple? You optimists affirm my faith in humanity!
Bottom line, America is dead. Its over. The nation you once lived in is as gone as the Soviet Union or Austro-Hungarian Empire. Its over.
Whites are now the hereditary servant class destined to work extra hard to support the Vibrant. We have no other destiny. The same of course will be true in Europe.Replies: @Dr. X, @anon, @anon
Whites are not “destined” to do anything. Whites could, and did in the past, seal the border and prevent nonwhite immigration. Australia did it, the U.S. did it, Britain did it. Whites chose this course of action. Whites chose to abandon racial and cultural solidarity.
It is not white “destiny” but white suicide.
that Haiti being in a bad temporary situation because of a hurricane, or because if Trump and white supremacist.
Totally taboo and not permissible to say are
a) Haiti is in a constant terrible state and
b) such misery might be because Haiti genocided all white racists 200 years ago,
or worse
c) whereever there are Blacks is Africa
As long as we accept the racism taboo and the egalitarian dogma, our policies will be wrongReplies: @Art Deco
c) whereever there are Blacks is Africa
If you want to understand why Haiti is Haiti and Barbados is Barbados, biology doesn’t get you very far.
Is the future outlier man, or average man?
But Steve, as you’ve repeatedly implied, we must Fight! the effects of Covid (PBUH) by Any! Means! Necessary! So if that means bringing more Haitians to the US because it helps us fight covid more effectively, then Amen brother!!
Issue them a mask, give em’ the jab and settle then in the north San Fernando Valley! Heros live there.
Why not just annex Haiti?
That way they can apply for welfare without going to the trouble of moving or move to the continent if they feel like it with no added paperwork (like Puerto Ricans).
And the big plus would be — not just more Democrat voters — but two more Democrat senators.
President Woodrow Wilson sent U.S. Marines into Haiti in July 1915 to quell unrest. The Marines declared martial law and severely censored the press. Within weeks, a new pro-U.S. Haitian president, Philippe Sudré Dartiguenave, was installed and a new constitution written that was favorable to the interests of the United States. The constitution (written by future US President Franklin D. Roosevelt) included a clause that allowed, for the first time, foreign ownership of land in Haiti, which was bitterly opposed by the Haitian legislature and citizenry. You could say that these colonial laws enforced Temporary Protected Status to US corporations in Haiti.The occupation improved some of Haiti's infrastructure and centralized power in Port-au-Prince. 1700 km of roads were made usable, 189 bridges were built, many irrigation canals were rehabilitated, hospitals, schools, and public buildings were constructed, and drinking water was brought to the main cities. Port-au-Prince actually became the first Caribbean city to have a phone service with automatic dialing.The Presidential palace or Haitian White House that collapsed in the earthquake of 2010 was also completed by US naval engineers after the US invasion, haiving been previously started, and then burned down in the political unrest that preceded the US invasion.https://im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/892x501/s3/2019-04/8E18D9C7-F4B6-4266-A622-6DE34C48EAB4.jpg?itok=cDj7A7zShttps://www.voanews.com/americas/haiti-rebuild-national-palace-smashed-2010-earthquake#&gid=1&pid=1However a lot of this progress was achieved by confiscating land by the equivalent of eminent domain laws and a number of Haitian elements were very hostile to US rule, which eventually ended in 1934 when the US was kicked out like in Cuba 2 decades later, otherwise Haiti could have been like Puerto Rico.Replies: @anon, @bomag
Haiti has at least 15 times the population of Iceland.
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/haiti/iceland
I don’t really understand the announcement about the Temporary Protected Status for Haitians.
To the best of my knowledge Haitians have had TPS continuously since the earthquake of 2010.
So this seems like a simple extension to the existing TPS.
It does not mean that Haitians can simply jump on a plane in Port-au-Prince and relocate to the United States. To enter the United States they have to fly to some other country like Mexico, or go by boat to Puerto Rico, and then claim their TPS on arrival.
In any case, nobody who has TPS is allowed to vote in the US, and nobody who has TPS can apply for US citizenship.
The total population of Haiti is only about 7 million people, which is a drop in the ocean compared to the United States.
It seems reasonable to renew the TPS because deporting huge numbers of Haitians at this time back to Haiti in the middle of the pandemic makes no sense. The US would probably have to finance resettlement camps for them in Haiti.
Also Haitians who are currently living and working in the United States are sending money back to Haiti to support other Haitians in their own country.
Also, birthright citizenship makes immigration much less tolerable. The TPS people might not be eligible to become citizena (for now) but their kids born here become US citizens automatically.Replies: @Mr. Anon
2. Anyone can get the vaccine including illegalsAlso Haitians who are currently living and working in the United States are sending money back to Haiti to support other Haitians in their own country.There are more of them settling in and never planning to return. The Haitians killed off their Whites in their revolution so according to liberal theory (White men ruin everything) they should in fact be a utopia. What happened?PLEASE LET US IN YOUR RACIST COUNTRY
It is in the long term interest of Americans, which is supposed to be the criteria by which American policy is made.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
Then I watch the morning show on CBS and there is a segment on “homelessness”. They should move to Haiti, and then come in and they will be taken care of, the whole southern border will work for the same care.
Yes and 2/3 the GDP.
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/haiti/iceland
Actually some signs of sustained development and political economy in Uganda last 15-20 years.
Angola might work a little also.
LMAO
Their institutions are beyond corrupt, the country isnt going anywhere other than more violence, hunger, and corruption.
The United States occupied Haiti from 1915 to 1934 under the Monroe Doctrine as an attempt to head off German influence in Haiti, so you can say that Haiti was effectively under US colonial rule for two decades.
President Woodrow Wilson sent U.S. Marines into Haiti in July 1915 to quell unrest. The Marines declared martial law and severely censored the press. Within weeks, a new pro-U.S. Haitian president, Philippe Sudré Dartiguenave, was installed and a new constitution written that was favorable to the interests of the United States.
The constitution (written by future US President Franklin D. Roosevelt) included a clause that allowed, for the first time, foreign ownership of land in Haiti, which was bitterly opposed by the Haitian legislature and citizenry.
You could say that these colonial laws enforced Temporary Protected Status to US corporations in Haiti.
The occupation improved some of Haiti’s infrastructure and centralized power in Port-au-Prince. 1700 km of roads were made usable, 189 bridges were built, many irrigation canals were rehabilitated, hospitals, schools, and public buildings were constructed, and drinking water was brought to the main cities. Port-au-Prince actually became the first Caribbean city to have a phone service with automatic dialing.
The Presidential palace or Haitian White House that collapsed in the earthquake of 2010 was also completed by US naval engineers after the US invasion, haiving been previously started, and then burned down in the political unrest that preceded the US invasion.
https://www.voanews.com/americas/haiti-rebuild-national-palace-smashed-2010-earthquake#&gid=1&pid=1
However a lot of this progress was achieved by confiscating land by the equivalent of eminent domain laws and a number of Haitian elements were very hostile to US rule, which eventually ended in 1934 when the US was kicked out like in Cuba 2 decades later, otherwise Haiti could have been like Puerto Rico.
If it was populated by Puerto Ricans. It could be like the Dominican Republic, if it was populated by Dominicans.
However, Haiti is populated by Haitians...
All the aid that supports the otherwise catastrophe that is Haiti should be conditioned on Haitians achieving a birth rate that takes the population to about one million in 30 years. That is the only way Haiti ever thrives.
Fewer babies’ cries. More abandoned homes. Toward the middle of this century, as deaths start to exceed births, changes will come that are hard to fathom.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.htmlGosh, all those [non-Hispanic white and Asian] country and continent names reminds me of something ... oh yeah, I remember, so I'll tuck it in right here at the end of graf number 8:Now back to the main point for the next 34 paragraphs.Unfortunately, the comments seem to be turned off for this one. And I think the NYT might be on to the tactic of reading the story backwards. They way they buried the lead at the end of the long paragraph 8 and then did a quickie topic change makes it hard to detect with a backwards read.Replies: @AndrewR, @Rob McX, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon
Besides Afghanistan, pretty much every country outside of sub-Saharan Africa is either sub-replacement TFR or rapidly getting there.
Fewer babies’ cries. More abandoned homes. Toward the middle of this century, as deaths start to exceed births, changes will come that are hard to fathom.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.htmlGosh, all those [non-Hispanic white and Asian] country and continent names reminds me of something ... oh yeah, I remember, so I'll tuck it in right here at the end of graf number 8:Now back to the main point for the next 34 paragraphs.Unfortunately, the comments seem to be turned off for this one. And I think the NYT might be on to the tactic of reading the story backwards. They way they buried the lead at the end of the long paragraph 8 and then did a quickie topic change makes it hard to detect with a backwards read.Replies: @AndrewR, @Rob McX, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon
Whew, that’s a relief, for a minute I thought the whole world population was falling. Thank God Nigeria is having the foresight to be breeding our replacements. They’ll bring vital skills to Europe and America. I see a future where the whole world will be making a living by scamming each other.
You are so tedious. If I mixed 20 mL of diarrhea into a liter of ice cream, would you eat it?
Also, birthright citizenship makes immigration much less tolerable. The TPS people might not be eligible to become citizena (for now) but their kids born here become US citizens automatically.
Looks like they are desperately trying to change the political landscape of Florida.
Won’t work. It’s one of the few states that has actually become less friendly to Democrats with time, despite demographics.
Many are proud of their "Whiteness." The increasing number of them in Florida is good for Republicans.
Also, there are lots of White senior citizens in Florida too.
Many of Florida's Blacks are Latin-Caribbean immigrants. Immigrant Blacks seem to feel less strongly about voting than American Blacks.
So Florida is indeed diverse, but it's winnable for Republicans. For now.
Republicans should be doing better in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. What's the deal there?
Haiti is what Idiocracy actually looks like in practice, but they can’t make that into a movie. have to stick with rednecks, which if they were occupying Haiti, in 20 years it would turn into a place that third worlders try to get into, instead of fleeing out from.
mud cookies for all.
That cartoon is spot on. But spot on about the little mental universe--ticks and insecurities--of its author. In reality, regular old white guys build--have built--the nicest nations on earth. And it is not their job to build them for any people but themselves. (Only a pathetic soy boy would whine about it ... or feel that the opinion of foreigners was someone the relevant metric.)
Again ... separate nations. If these people honestly care about niceness to Mexicans, Muzzies, Homos and "Elites"--LOL--be my guest ... have your nation and enjoy it. Just leave us normies alone.
It seems reasonable to renew the TPS because deporting huge numbers of Haitians at this time back to Haiti in the middle of the pandemic makes no sense.
1. We are not in the middle of the pandemic
2. Anyone can get the vaccine including illegals
Also Haitians who are currently living and working in the United States are sending money back to Haiti to support other Haitians in their own country.
There are more of them settling in and never planning to return.
The Haitians killed off their Whites in their revolution so according to liberal theory (White men ruin everything) they should in fact be a utopia. What happened?
PLEASE LET US IN YOUR RACIST COUNTRY
Fewer babies’ cries. More abandoned homes. Toward the middle of this century, as deaths start to exceed births, changes will come that are hard to fathom.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.htmlGosh, all those [non-Hispanic white and Asian] country and continent names reminds me of something ... oh yeah, I remember, so I'll tuck it in right here at the end of graf number 8:Now back to the main point for the next 34 paragraphs.Unfortunately, the comments seem to be turned off for this one. And I think the NYT might be on to the tactic of reading the story backwards. They way they buried the lead at the end of the long paragraph 8 and then did a quickie topic change makes it hard to detect with a backwards read.Replies: @AndrewR, @Rob McX, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon
SixTwoTwo, waiting to see Nigeria’s economy catch up with China’s. ‘Made in Nigeria’…anything?
President Woodrow Wilson sent U.S. Marines into Haiti in July 1915 to quell unrest. The Marines declared martial law and severely censored the press. Within weeks, a new pro-U.S. Haitian president, Philippe Sudré Dartiguenave, was installed and a new constitution written that was favorable to the interests of the United States. The constitution (written by future US President Franklin D. Roosevelt) included a clause that allowed, for the first time, foreign ownership of land in Haiti, which was bitterly opposed by the Haitian legislature and citizenry. You could say that these colonial laws enforced Temporary Protected Status to US corporations in Haiti.The occupation improved some of Haiti's infrastructure and centralized power in Port-au-Prince. 1700 km of roads were made usable, 189 bridges were built, many irrigation canals were rehabilitated, hospitals, schools, and public buildings were constructed, and drinking water was brought to the main cities. Port-au-Prince actually became the first Caribbean city to have a phone service with automatic dialing.The Presidential palace or Haitian White House that collapsed in the earthquake of 2010 was also completed by US naval engineers after the US invasion, haiving been previously started, and then burned down in the political unrest that preceded the US invasion.https://im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/892x501/s3/2019-04/8E18D9C7-F4B6-4266-A622-6DE34C48EAB4.jpg?itok=cDj7A7zShttps://www.voanews.com/americas/haiti-rebuild-national-palace-smashed-2010-earthquake#&gid=1&pid=1However a lot of this progress was achieved by confiscating land by the equivalent of eminent domain laws and a number of Haitian elements were very hostile to US rule, which eventually ended in 1934 when the US was kicked out like in Cuba 2 decades later, otherwise Haiti could have been like Puerto Rico.Replies: @anon, @bomag
otherwise Haiti could have been like Puerto Rico.
If it was populated by Puerto Ricans. It could be like the Dominican Republic, if it was populated by Dominicans.
However, Haiti is populated by Haitians…
Jonathan, I am starting to think you are a Jesuit.
If you want to understand why Haiti is Haiti and Barbados is Barbados, biology doesn't get you very far.Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @bomag, @Mr. Anon
Well then why is Haiti Haiti and the DR the DR?
Jonathan is Tim Kaine.
They’re coming to Florida to change the demographic. Biden’s war against whites, Florida battleground. I propose moving them all to DC.
Won't work. It's one of the few states that has actually become less friendly to Democrats with time, despite demographics.Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
“White” Hispanics (South Americans and Cubans) are often strongly anti-Communist and anti-Black.
Many are proud of their “Whiteness.” The increasing number of them in Florida is good for Republicans.
Also, there are lots of White senior citizens in Florida too.
Many of Florida’s Blacks are Latin-Caribbean immigrants. Immigrant Blacks seem to feel less strongly about voting than American Blacks.
So Florida is indeed diverse, but it’s winnable for Republicans. For now.
Republicans should be doing better in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. What’s the deal there?
I recommend that for every Ivy U that accepts federal govt money, they require each student in one of their first two years to “study abroad” in Haiti.
Okay, put them in a protected compound to keep them alive and unraped (at least for a while) and let them experience DIE firsthand.
Some might even learn some rudimentary French.
Make sure they have to leave the compound daily for studies, shopping, sightseeing, etc. No marriages to locals however.
This might even help some Haitians. But it certainly would improve the education of these otherwise cosseted and brainwashed students.
Oh, and require profs in the non STEM subjects to teach a couple of years there as well.
Hands Across the Sea, etc. Also, seeing is believing. No substitute for that.
Okay, put them in a protected compound to keep them alive and unraped (at least for a while) and let them experience DIE firsthand.
Some might even learn some rudimentary French.
Make sure they have to leave the compound daily for studies, shopping, sightseeing, etc. No marriages to locals however.
This might even help some Haitians. But it certainly would improve the education of these otherwise cosseted and brainwashed students.
Oh, and require profs in the non STEM subjects to teach a couple of years there as well.
Hands Across the Sea, etc. Also, seeing is believing. No substitute for that.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
A lot of Americans do go to Haiti to do “missionary work” and it seems that those appointed to this valuable task waste no time in converting the locals to the missionary position.
There is actually a medical school in the Dominican Republic that Americans attend, others in Grenada and Antigua, and a vetinerary medicine college in St. Kitts.
I have no doubt that the students who go there, even though they may live in walled compounds, do benefit from mixing with the local milieu.
Even Haiti has some places that are nicer than others, for example Jacmel, and does have a tourist industry where most of the patrons seem to be Francophone tourists.
Although the French colonists were killed off, they left behind a certain amount of their culinary influence and the food is surprisingly good.
White tourists in Haiti.
My thoughts on learning excursions in Haiti for pampered Ivy Leaguers and staff are just to suggest a good means to educate them.
This and other islands in the Caribbean aren't hellholes and plenty of people go there already. But the Woke intelligentsia who are now lecturing us on black Supremacy seem to rarely have much first hand experience living amongst them.
Especially in countries which aren't weighed down with centuries of supposed Systemic Racism.
I'm not suggesting this just for white students either. Visits to Haiti, the worst of the islands, or even Africa would be instructive for all. But it is the White Left and their Woke commissars who need this experience most of all.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
Thanks. You make good observations.
My thoughts on learning excursions in Haiti for pampered Ivy Leaguers and staff are just to suggest a good means to educate them.
This and other islands in the Caribbean aren’t hellholes and plenty of people go there already. But the Woke intelligentsia who are now lecturing us on black Supremacy seem to rarely have much first hand experience living amongst them.
Especially in countries which aren’t weighed down with centuries of supposed Systemic Racism.
I’m not suggesting this just for white students either. Visits to Haiti, the worst of the islands, or even Africa would be instructive for all. But it is the White Left and their Woke commissars who need this experience most of all.
I was in Haiti in the weeks immediately after the earthquake of 2019 and I was impressed how, although the people were stunned by what had happened, and were still sleeping in long rows in the street on divided highways that were divided into sleeping and non-sleeping sides, there wasn't really any obvious misbehavior.
The UN troops were brought in to "prevent looting", mainly at the instigation of CNN, as far as I could see, but I didn't see any evidence of looting at all.
I was in a huge warehouse that was stacked to the rafters with sacks of US rice, but there were no armed security guards, and anyone could walk in on foot, as I did.
The only looting I heard about was when two or three guys were killed attempting to loot. They had obtained a caterpillar excavator and were trying to excavate the site of a collapsed supermarket that had a money changing or Western Union desk. Unfortunately the building collapsed further while they were digging for gold, and they were killed.
If it had been in the US, I have no doubt that there would have been police with flashing lights on their cars and yellow tape everywhere. In Haiti I never saw a cop at all (as apparently many had been killed in the earthquake) and not an inch of yellow tape either. One could ramble around the destroyed buildings to one's hearts' content (if one wanted to) and no one would stop you. But I didn't see any of the criminal behavior that seems to be traditional when hurricanes hit and law enforcement collapses.
Of course that is just one person's point of view, and maybe others saw something different in other locations in Haiti.
This is very shrewd. I was once banned from some globohomo site for suggesting that exchanging population alone, leaving infrastructure as it is, would result in a reversal of trajectories in Sweden and Somalia. Seems pretty obvious to me.
- Otto von Bismarck (attributed)Replies: @Hibernian
“You’ve got to exchange the populations of Holland and Ireland. Then the Dutch will turn Ireland into a beautiful garden and the Irish will forget to mend the dikes and will all be drowned.”
– Otto von Bismarck (attributed)
I’d rather vacation in Siberia in winter than Haiti. Guadalupe Martinique if someone wants to speak some form of French dialect.
Haiti is no bargain pricewise. Martinique has a potentially vicious volcano. Guadalupe can be bad for dengue fever.
I would have thought that if you wanted to vacation in a French speaking place in the Caribbean, St. Martin was the place to go, although the French Riviera would be nice if you could afford it.
My thoughts on learning excursions in Haiti for pampered Ivy Leaguers and staff are just to suggest a good means to educate them.
This and other islands in the Caribbean aren't hellholes and plenty of people go there already. But the Woke intelligentsia who are now lecturing us on black Supremacy seem to rarely have much first hand experience living amongst them.
Especially in countries which aren't weighed down with centuries of supposed Systemic Racism.
I'm not suggesting this just for white students either. Visits to Haiti, the worst of the islands, or even Africa would be instructive for all. But it is the White Left and their Woke commissars who need this experience most of all.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
I agree.
I was in Haiti in the weeks immediately after the earthquake of 2019 and I was impressed how, although the people were stunned by what had happened, and were still sleeping in long rows in the street on divided highways that were divided into sleeping and non-sleeping sides, there wasn’t really any obvious misbehavior.
The UN troops were brought in to “prevent looting”, mainly at the instigation of CNN, as far as I could see, but I didn’t see any evidence of looting at all.
I was in a huge warehouse that was stacked to the rafters with sacks of US rice, but there were no armed security guards, and anyone could walk in on foot, as I did.
The only looting I heard about was when two or three guys were killed attempting to loot. They had obtained a caterpillar excavator and were trying to excavate the site of a collapsed supermarket that had a money changing or Western Union desk. Unfortunately the building collapsed further while they were digging for gold, and they were killed.
If it had been in the US, I have no doubt that there would have been police with flashing lights on their cars and yellow tape everywhere. In Haiti I never saw a cop at all (as apparently many had been killed in the earthquake) and not an inch of yellow tape either. One could ramble around the destroyed buildings to one’s hearts’ content (if one wanted to) and no one would stop you. But I didn’t see any of the criminal behavior that seems to be traditional when hurricanes hit and law enforcement collapses.
Of course that is just one person’s point of view, and maybe others saw something different in other locations in Haiti.
It makes “no sense” to the Haitians here.
It is in the long term interest of Americans, which is supposed to be the criteria by which American policy is made.
Fewer babies’ cries. More abandoned homes. Toward the middle of this century, as deaths start to exceed births, changes will come that are hard to fathom.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.htmlGosh, all those [non-Hispanic white and Asian] country and continent names reminds me of something ... oh yeah, I remember, so I'll tuck it in right here at the end of graf number 8:Now back to the main point for the next 34 paragraphs.Unfortunately, the comments seem to be turned off for this one. And I think the NYT might be on to the tactic of reading the story backwards. They way they buried the lead at the end of the long paragraph 8 and then did a quickie topic change makes it hard to detect with a backwards read.Replies: @AndrewR, @Rob McX, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon
It’s good they are talking about this. Basically admitting that the population problem has been licked for civilized nations and depopulation is more the problem.
But then they can’t help but get in the mandatory shilling for blowing up nations and … immigration!
The whole depopulation thing is a non-problem.
It’s a non-problem because as population goes down the remaining population will increasingly be precisely from those with “breeder” traits. The sane, the healthy, the traditional.
In other words it is an easily self-correcting problem. Cheap housing, high salaries … uh … not actual problems!!!
But …
It is only a non-problem if the immigrationists can be made to STFU. Or beaten into submission.
Or killed. At this point for me–preferably killed, they are a cancer on humanity.
Population drop is a non-problem only if it is allowed to naturally self correct. If not then we really are looking at a black planet and the end of civilization.
It is in the long term interest of Americans, which is supposed to be the criteria by which American policy is made.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
Not wanting to turn Haitians into terrorists could be good for Americans, and not having a humanitarian disaster on the doorstep of the US cannot do any harm.
So many of you guys are convinced that immigration, etc. is all about enrolling more voters for the Democratic Party for future elections, but have any of you actually been in on the discussions of Democratic Party strategists and consultants and heard this at first hand, or are you just assuming that more black immigrants ought to be good for the Democratic Party, so such plans must have been clandestinely made?
It reminds me of a line that I have mentioned before.
There is an anecdote about how Orwell would rant on about how there was a conspiracy of the bacon producers to outlaw people keeping pigs in their backyard so that they could eat the trash and feed families on pork and bacon once the pigs were fattened up.
His first wife, Eileen, who apparently had more common sense than he, said “No, George, there is no conspiracy of pig farmers. It is illegal because most people don’t want smelly pigs in the garden or in their neighbour’s garden.”
So Orwell went away and wrote a book about a revolution led by pigs.
The first Haitians to arrive in the US under the TPS arrived in 2010, so most likely the first births were that year. Those US citizens of Haitian descent will not be old enough to vote until 2028, and even in that year there will not be many of them voting. So is the policy towards Haiti really driven by future elections? And if that is the case, what about Cubans being allowed to immigrate ad lib? Aren’t they supposed to be natural Republicans? Is that what is driving the Republican policy towards Cuba? Isn’t it all a wash in the end. The populations of both Haiti and Cuba are about 11 million.
And, by the way, I am not on the Democratic Party secret policy e-mail list.
When has Haiti ever improved? The one safe prediction I could make for the next 100 years? Haiti will still be a shithole.
With a little help from Jews.
https://imgur.com/a/h4Utp20
mud cookies for all.Replies: @AnotherDad
Damn. Sounds pretty good to me.
That cartoon is spot on. But spot on about the little mental universe–ticks and insecurities–of its author. In reality, regular old white guys build–have built–the nicest nations on earth. And it is not their job to build them for any people but themselves. (Only a pathetic soy boy would whine about it … or feel that the opinion of foreigners was someone the relevant metric.)
Again … separate nations. If these people honestly care about niceness to Mexicans, Muzzies, Homos and “Elites”–LOL–be my guest … have your nation and enjoy it. Just leave us normies alone.
Bottom line, America is dead. Its over. The nation you once lived in is as gone as the Soviet Union or Austro-Hungarian Empire. Its over.
Whites are now the hereditary servant class destined to work extra hard to support the Vibrant. We have no other destiny. The same of course will be true in Europe.Replies: @Dr. X, @anon, @anon
Secession was the answer, but you boomers wanted to keep fighting and lost everything as a result. Everything you tried failed just as a I predicted. Thanks for that. Congrats on cursing those of us who saw the truth and wanted to change things long ago to eternal doom just because you wanted to vote harder, not see race, and grill. Worst generation of humans ever.
How did the Christians do in Lebanon after secession?
President Woodrow Wilson sent U.S. Marines into Haiti in July 1915 to quell unrest. The Marines declared martial law and severely censored the press. Within weeks, a new pro-U.S. Haitian president, Philippe Sudré Dartiguenave, was installed and a new constitution written that was favorable to the interests of the United States. The constitution (written by future US President Franklin D. Roosevelt) included a clause that allowed, for the first time, foreign ownership of land in Haiti, which was bitterly opposed by the Haitian legislature and citizenry. You could say that these colonial laws enforced Temporary Protected Status to US corporations in Haiti.The occupation improved some of Haiti's infrastructure and centralized power in Port-au-Prince. 1700 km of roads were made usable, 189 bridges were built, many irrigation canals were rehabilitated, hospitals, schools, and public buildings were constructed, and drinking water was brought to the main cities. Port-au-Prince actually became the first Caribbean city to have a phone service with automatic dialing.The Presidential palace or Haitian White House that collapsed in the earthquake of 2010 was also completed by US naval engineers after the US invasion, haiving been previously started, and then burned down in the political unrest that preceded the US invasion.https://im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/892x501/s3/2019-04/8E18D9C7-F4B6-4266-A622-6DE34C48EAB4.jpg?itok=cDj7A7zShttps://www.voanews.com/americas/haiti-rebuild-national-palace-smashed-2010-earthquake#&gid=1&pid=1However a lot of this progress was achieved by confiscating land by the equivalent of eminent domain laws and a number of Haitian elements were very hostile to US rule, which eventually ended in 1934 when the US was kicked out like in Cuba 2 decades later, otherwise Haiti could have been like Puerto Rico.Replies: @anon, @bomag
I suspect the usual model holds here, where any benefit to the corps. is overwhelmed by the public costs.
Where are they today? Haiti is essentially a vassal state, with an absurd number of NGOs running the place, and their best and brightest heading elsewhere.
If you want to understand why Haiti is Haiti and Barbados is Barbados, biology doesn't get you very far.Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @bomag, @Mr. Anon
Barbados and some others are outliers.
Is the future outlier man, or average man?
All depends what you want to do on vacation. Siberia in winter is dark a lot of the time.
Haiti is no bargain pricewise. Martinique has a potentially vicious volcano. Guadalupe can be bad for dengue fever.
I would have thought that if you wanted to vacation in a French speaking place in the Caribbean, St. Martin was the place to go, although the French Riviera would be nice if you could afford it.
- Otto von Bismarck (attributed)Replies: @Hibernian
The House of Orange was Dutch.
Angola might work a little also.Replies: @Spect3r
Angola?
LMAO
Their institutions are beyond corrupt, the country isnt going anywhere other than more violence, hunger, and corruption.
Not sure secession is/would have been a panacea.
How did the Christians do in Lebanon after secession?
Not white Americans, but white Frenchman once owned Haiti and it was the most profitable colony in the new world.
Interesting surname. It seems to be some form of the Spanish or Catalan Mayorca/Majorca/Mallorca place name with Ladino orthography (the “k”) and a vaguely Greek ending (-as).
one or two warm summers and they’ll let them in as “climate refugees”
Bottom line, America is dead. Its over. The nation you once lived in is as gone as the Soviet Union or Austro-Hungarian Empire. Its over.
Whites are now the hereditary servant class destined to work extra hard to support the Vibrant. We have no other destiny. The same of course will be true in Europe.Replies: @Dr. X, @anon, @anon
i doubt most Americans understand that this is something TPTB are more than willing to do – maybe not in a few years but in 8-10 years
Canada has already announced that they will hit 100 million by the end of this century even though the citizens were never asked
But then they can't help but get in the mandatory shilling for blowing up nations and ... immigration!The whole depopulation thing is a non-problem.
It's a non-problem because as population goes down the remaining population will increasingly be precisely from those with "breeder" traits. The sane, the healthy, the traditional.
In other words it is an easily self-correcting problem. Cheap housing, high salaries ... uh ... not actual problems!!!
But ...
It is only a non-problem if the immigrationists can be made to STFU. Or beaten into submission.
Or killed. At this point for me--preferably killed, they are a cancer on humanity.
Population drop is a non-problem only if it is allowed to naturally self correct. If not then we really are looking at a black planet and the end of civilization.Replies: @John Johnson
The whole depopulation thing is a non-problem.
It’s a non-problem because as population goes down the remaining population will increasingly be precisely from those with “breeder” traits. The sane, the healthy, the traditional.
I really doubt that be cause the left actively thinks about how to undermine Whites through immigration while the right is unconvinced is a problem.
Most of our dopey conservatives are still libertarian when it comes to immigration. They still think everything is just boot straps ‘n tax cuts. In their minds some desperate Haitian will become a community leader because they weren’t raised in US public schools. Even when there is truth to that argument there is something unfortunate called regression to the mean.
Through immigration the left will just create a new alliance of the aggrieved.
Too many breeding Whites are moral but submissive by nature. They will just accept the vote and hand over their stuff.
The left is too effective at converting ex-Christians into liberal lemmings. We have to break their indoctrination techniques.
Canada has already announced that they will hit 100 million by the end of this century even though the citizens were never askedReplies: @John Johnson
i doubt most Americans understand that this is something TPTB are more than willing to do – maybe not in a few years but in 8-10 years
Canada has already announced that they will hit 100 million by the end of this century even though the citizens were never asked
What they are waiting for is a disaster.
Some African dictator or muslim group will throw a country like Nigeria into chaos and the Democrats will vote that we “only” take in 20-30 million of them.
This is why we need to deal with liberal fantasy beliefs. If Whites stop believing in paint theory then they will pull the Democrats back to being a working class party. The problem is that too many Whites think race is malleable and that it can be permanently fixed if we find the right prescription. So they think it is worth continuing to invest billions with the hope that it can be put behind us. This gives both Democrats and Republicans a free pass in completely baseless ideas.
TPS is part of the 1990 Immigration law that bush sr signed. It doesn’t get much attention but this law is arguably more responsible than the ‘65 immigration law for our now 30 year non-stop immigration surge.
The law also included the diversity lottery that mandates 50k green cards a year.
Just so everyone is clear Sen Rubio supported TPS for both Haitians and Venezuelans. I dare say 80% of republican senators support. So don’t expect much relief in this area if a republican not named Trump gets in the WH.
If you want to understand why Haiti is Haiti and Barbados is Barbados, biology doesn't get you very far.Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @bomag, @Mr. Anon
Haiti and Barbados are hardly the whole spectrum, you idiot. Try: Haiti, Nigeria, Congo, South Africa, etc., etc
Fewer babies’ cries. More abandoned homes. Toward the middle of this century, as deaths start to exceed births, changes will come that are hard to fathom.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.htmlGosh, all those [non-Hispanic white and Asian] country and continent names reminds me of something ... oh yeah, I remember, so I'll tuck it in right here at the end of graf number 8:Now back to the main point for the next 34 paragraphs.Unfortunately, the comments seem to be turned off for this one. And I think the NYT might be on to the tactic of reading the story backwards. They way they buried the lead at the end of the long paragraph 8 and then did a quickie topic change makes it hard to detect with a backwards read.Replies: @AndrewR, @Rob McX, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon
Fifty years ago, the same sort of people were telling us that population increase was our biggest problem. Now that the purpose of that effort has been achieved – decreased white fertility – they can change their tune.
Also, birthright citizenship makes immigration much less tolerable. The TPS people might not be eligible to become citizena (for now) but their kids born here become US citizens automatically.Replies: @Mr. Anon
Tedious is a good way to describe Jonathan Mason – like his soul-brother Art Deco, a yammering twit.