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In the FBI’s (less than perfect) homicide statistics for 2021, the ratio of black known homicide offenders to known nonblack homicide offenders is about an order of magnitude, depending upon how you define black from the 2020 Census. (As I’ve mentioned before, police statistics are one of the last pockets of American government where Hispanics aren’t reliably broken out from whites — a holdover from progressive ideas of the 1950s — so I usually just work with black vs. nonblack.

(Also, note that this year’s FBI stats are less reliable than last year’s due to less cooperation due to a slow-motion bureaucratic train wreck involving the FBI setting 2021 as deadline for the complete switch over to a newer system, and many police departments failing to submit.)

In previous Censuses, the great majority of people who identified as black did not identify as anything else, so the question of how to count people who identified as black and another race was marginal and everybody agreed blacks were more or less around 13% of the population. But in the 2020 Census, there was a big growth in the number of people identifying as black and something else. So, the self-identified Black Alone population is now around 12 percent and the self-identified Black And Another Race population is now around 14%.

It’s not obvious which is more relevant for thinking about the numbers of known homicide offenders. If you use Black and Another Race, you get a racial ratio of about 9 to 1 for known homicide offender rate for black vs. all nonblacks. If you use Black Alone, you get a racial ratio of 11 to 1. So, roughly an order of magnitude, which is a huge ratio by almost all social science standards.

In contrast, women were one-eighth of the known homicide offenders in 2021, so the male to female ratio is more around 7.2 to 1.

It’s crazy that black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio.

 
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  1. This begs the question “are black women more murderous, as measured on a per capita basis, than white men?”.

    • Replies: @bispora
    @Anonymous

    The answer is in Steve's numbers: yes!

  2. How many of these murderers were XY females?

    • Replies: @Carol
    @Herman Hetherington

    Exactly. In the UK a trans would be reported as a woman.

    Is the US that bad yet?

    , @Wilkey
    @Herman Hetherington


    How many of these murderers were XY females?
     
    If I were facing potential life imprisonment for murder, I would very quickly come to the realization that I am actually a lesbian woman.

    It’s crazy that black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio.
     
    It's only "crazy" in a world where our leaders and news media routinely lie about the truth.
  3. The nurture aspect of the human condition is fairly well illustrated here. The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave.

    • Replies: @Just Some JB
    @Mike Tre


    The nurture aspect of the human condition is fairly well illustrated here. The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave.
     
    Perhaps. However, one could just as easily assert that blacks' greater homicidal tendencies are due to genetics.
    , @Rob
    @Mike Tre

    Yep. This looks like a real environmental effect. It has the form of a lot of other (seemingly) real environmental effects. It is the reaction to a broad change in the general environment that affects a cohort en masse, likely leaving the genetic bell curve unchanged, but shifting( at least lots of) people more or less equally toward (in this case) higher propensity to commit murder.

    Were the Beatles an environmental affect? Sure, but they hit the culture broadly.

    Replies: @Just Some JB

    , @europeasant
    @Mike Tre

    "The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave"

    I call bullshit. The real culprit who made them act bad is the "Debil".

    You can quote me on that.

  4. @Anonymous
    This begs the question "are black women more murderous, as measured on a per capita basis, than white men?".

    Replies: @bispora

    The answer is in Steve’s numbers: yes!

  5. It’s crazy that black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio.

    What’s really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation’s prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What’s up with that?

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @HammerJack


    What’s really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation’s prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What’s up with that?
     
    My strategy has long been to ask all of those virtue signalling, BLM-supporting women out there why male:female imprisonment rates aren't equal. I have yet to come across a woman who didn't get hysterical when I asked them that.

    Replies: @VivaLaMigra

    , @Sick n' Tired
    @HammerJack

    It's about the same amount as calling for equal representation among garbage men, sewer workers, bomb disposal techs, and lumberjacks. Funny how we hear about not enough females in high paying executive/tech jobs, but never in more dangerous or dirty professions, like underwater welding, or pest control.

    , @Bill Jones
    @HammerJack


    What’s really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation’s prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What’s up with that?
     
    The fix is being worked on. All they have to do is to have about 45% of men in prison identify as female and you're there.
  6. I’m not certain why Steve thinks the ratio of black to white homicide rates is “crazy.” He’s been documenting the Ferguson effect, then the Floyd effect. The policing techniques that kept black crime down to previous levels have been largely withdrawn and blacks are increasingly free to carry weapons and to use them with less and less fear of apprehension or punishment. The results are entirely predictable, not crazy.

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Diversity Heretic

    Even before Ferguson and BLM the ratio of Black to white homicides rates was 8 to 1. We should expect the ratio to be worse today than during the 980s because we have more young Black males today and fewer young whites. The average White America is 47 years-old today , while the average age of African-Americans is 32 years-old.

    In 1980 Blacks were 12% of the under 30 population. Today Blacks are 15% of the under 30 population. This is a significant difference and helps explain the reason Blacks are responsible for 60% of the homicides today. Blacks may be killing more today, but they are a larger percentage of the youth population today so we should expect Blacks would be responsible for more homicides in 2021 compared to 40 year ago

    Looking at the age cohort responsible for most homicides we can focus on the population of Americans aged 15 to 34 years-old and how the demographics have changed.

    15-34 years-olds -----1980 census ---2020 census
    Non-hispanic Whites ---- 62 million - 45 million
    African Americans--------- 9 million - 14 million

    The number of whites aged 15-34 has declined by 30% since 1980, the number of young Blacks has increased by 50% since 1980. So we should expect a larger share of homicide victims and killers will be Black as they are a much larger share of this age cohort today.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  7. a holdover from progressive ideas of the 1950s

    What?

  8. “It’s crazy that black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio.”

    But not surprising.

  9. There Steve goes again, using math to make blacks look bad!

    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
    @Redneck farmer

    Blacks make blacks look bad. Then call you a "racist" for saying an obvious truth.

    , @europeasant
    @Redneck farmer

    "The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave"

    I call bullshit. The real culprit who made them act bad is the "Debil".

    You can quote me on that.

  10. black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio

    What a stunning fact. Presumably even the Woke would accept the male:female ratio if you reported it to them. You could then ask them why they won’t accept the black:white ratio.

    I must try that.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @dearieme


    Presumably even the Woke would accept the male:female ratio if you reported it to them.
     
    They would probably be shocked and angered at you...for not believing ("knowing") that the male:female murder ratio is even higher. They probably think it's like 50:1.

    Incidentally, I would guess that a disproportionate share of unsolved murders are committed by females, due to detectives assuming that females aren't likely to kill.

    And how many male "suicides" are actually women murdering their husbands or significant others? More than we probably think.
  11. The surprising part is not the statistic, but that this state of affairs is tolerated.

    White people in both Europe and America seem to have totally lost the will to live…

    Every other headline is a symptom.

  12. stillCARealist [AKA "ForeverCARealist"] says:

    I propose a more strict nomenclature.

    When someone is called “mentally ill,” what we mean is that they have a diagnosed illness that can be identified and treated.
    When someone is “crazy,” we mean simply that they do and say wild, outlandish things regardless of their state of medical treatment.

    This way we can exhibit compassion for the mentally ill, but lock up the crazies.

  13. It’s been a while since I’ve read it, but as I recall French sociologist Emile Durkheim argued in the 1899 that if you included abortion and euthanasia in the homicide statistics, women were probably as homicidal as men, just less violent.

    Today, of course, if you included legal abortion in the homicide statistics women would be far more homicidal than men.

  14. @Herman Hetherington
    How many of these murderers were XY females?

    Replies: @Carol, @Wilkey

    Exactly. In the UK a trans would be reported as a woman.

    Is the US that bad yet?

  15. @Herman Hetherington
    How many of these murderers were XY females?

    Replies: @Carol, @Wilkey

    How many of these murderers were XY females?

    If I were facing potential life imprisonment for murder, I would very quickly come to the realization that I am actually a lesbian woman.

    It’s crazy that black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio.

    It’s only “crazy” in a world where our leaders and news media routinely lie about the truth.

  16. @dearieme
    black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio

    What a stunning fact. Presumably even the Woke would accept the male:female ratio if you reported it to them. You could then ask them why they won't accept the black:white ratio.

    I must try that.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    Presumably even the Woke would accept the male:female ratio if you reported it to them.

    They would probably be shocked and angered at you…for not believing (“knowing”) that the male:female murder ratio is even higher. They probably think it’s like 50:1.

    Incidentally, I would guess that a disproportionate share of unsolved murders are committed by females, due to detectives assuming that females aren’t likely to kill.

    And how many male “suicides” are actually women murdering their husbands or significant others? More than we probably think.

  17. @HammerJack

    It’s crazy that black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio.
     
    What's really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation's prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What's up with that?

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Sick n' Tired, @Bill Jones

    What’s really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation’s prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What’s up with that?

    My strategy has long been to ask all of those virtue signalling, BLM-supporting women out there why male:female imprisonment rates aren’t equal. I have yet to come across a woman who didn’t get hysterical when I asked them that.

    • Replies: @VivaLaMigra
    @Wilkey


    I have yet to come across a woman who didn’t get hysterical when I asked them [sic] that.
     
    You meant, of course: "I have yet to come across a woman who didn’t get hysterical when I asked her that.

    The subject of your sentence was a singular human female; to wit: "a woman." Therefore the grammatically, and logically, correct objective case pronoun is her. Why are you falling into the trap of attempting to use "them" as a SINGULAR, and gender neutral, pronoun? "Them" is plural, period. It's used when the antecedent is two or more people, of either or mixed sexes. When the antecedent's gender is unknown, the default is he/his/him. However, in this particular case, you have clearly stated that you asked "a woman." Now, you may think this it nitpicking, but we have grammatical rules for a reason: fuzzy language stems from fuzzy thinking. On that score, I find you guilty. Or, even WORSE, "woke."

  18. @HammerJack

    It’s crazy that black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio.
     
    What's really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation's prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What's up with that?

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Sick n' Tired, @Bill Jones

    It’s about the same amount as calling for equal representation among garbage men, sewer workers, bomb disposal techs, and lumberjacks. Funny how we hear about not enough females in high paying executive/tech jobs, but never in more dangerous or dirty professions, like underwater welding, or pest control.

  19. There was always a disparity, but now they have been unleashed.

  20. So if you do the math, are black males 72x more likely to kill someone than white females?

    Why are the most hysterical BLM supporters white females like Lore-Elizabeth (“Not Jewish”) Blumenthal?

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/woman-gets-prison-in-police-car-fires-amid-2020-protest/3320889/

    ‘I channeled all of my outrage and grief into the police, and I wish I’d not done that and had had the coping skills and self-de-escalation I do today,’ Lore-Elizabeth Blumenthal said in court.

    “My substance abuse left me feeling utterly self-righteous and impervious to critique,” Blumenthal told Judge Barclay Surrick.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jack D

    Judging from the photo, donuts were among the substances that Lore-Elizabeth was abusing. In her better days she was quite the looker.

    It is also remarkable how loaded for bear Ms. Blumenthal was. It shows an admirable, Germanic level of preparation - the construction boots, the fireproof gloves, the safety goggles, the practical bun hairdo. A Jewish female would have concentrated more on the fashion aspects. "Does this Molotov cocktail make me look fat?" And those construction boots - don't get me started.

    Ironically, her fashion choices are what undid her. Apparently she was wearing a T-shirt with the slogan “Keep the immigrants, deport the racists.” This shirt was sold in a limited edition on Etsy (not a big seller) so the FBI subpoenaed the sales records and traced the shirt to Liz.

    , @Joe Magarac
    @Jack D


    Why are the most hysterical BLM supporters white females like Lore-Elizabeth (“Not Jewish”) Blumenthal?
     
    Say what you will about Jews not really being White, no amount of critical theory will convince African Americans that the likes of the woman in the picture isn't White. They are even kind of weak on the concept of Chinese not being White.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @anonymouseperson
    @Jack D

    I hope she does a long hard prison sentence.

    , @Paco Wové
    @Jack D

    You forgot the best part of that article:

    "Ayoub Tabri, 25, was sentenced earlier this month to 364 days behind bars [for setting police cars on fire] -- less time than he had already served in custody, and short enough to avoid triggering deportation proceedings for the Moroccan immigrant."

  21. If you assume the historical trend of Hispanics being just over twice as murderous as whites, that drops the white portion of the non-black murders a bit. So rather than a roughly 10 to 1 black homicides to white homicides ratio, its actually more like 12 to 1.

    By my math, the racial ratio (relative to whites) for homicides is:

    Blacks = 12.4
    Hispanics = 2.3
    Whites = 1.0
    Asians = 0.3

  22. @Jack D
    So if you do the math, are black males 72x more likely to kill someone than white females?

    Why are the most hysterical BLM supporters white females like Lore-Elizabeth ("Not Jewish") Blumenthal?

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/woman-gets-prison-in-police-car-fires-amid-2020-protest/3320889/

    'I channeled all of my outrage and grief into the police, and I wish I’d not done that and had had the coping skills and self-de-escalation I do today,' Lore-Elizabeth Blumenthal said in court.

    "My substance abuse left me feeling utterly self-righteous and impervious to critique,” Blumenthal told Judge Barclay Surrick.

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/lore-elisabeth-blumenthal-etsy-fire-cop-car-3.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1536

    Replies: @Jack D, @Joe Magarac, @anonymouseperson, @Paco Wové

    Judging from the photo, donuts were among the substances that Lore-Elizabeth was abusing. In her better days she was quite the looker.

    It is also remarkable how loaded for bear Ms. Blumenthal was. It shows an admirable, Germanic level of preparation – the construction boots, the fireproof gloves, the safety goggles, the practical bun hairdo. A Jewish female would have concentrated more on the fashion aspects. “Does this Molotov cocktail make me look fat?” And those construction boots – don’t get me started.

    Ironically, her fashion choices are what undid her. Apparently she was wearing a T-shirt with the slogan “Keep the immigrants, deport the racists.” This shirt was sold in a limited edition on Etsy (not a big seller) so the FBI subpoenaed the sales records and traced the shirt to Liz.

  23. you can safely assume that most of the unknown perps were also africans. so the numbers are even higher in real life than on paper. indians have the lowest numbers. there’s definitely more chinese and vietnamese criminals. indians barely do anything ever.

    these numbers aren’t that surprising. we just went thru the science nobels, and in that field as well, the group difference is larger than the gender difference, but even more exaggerated. pale persons do almost everything. the rest of the combined people of the world do relatively little. pale women do more than the combined people of china and india. the man woman ratio might be like 6:1 now, the pale person to all other human ratio more like 10:1.

    in both cases, both activities are humans solving problems. africans are solving the most basic problems humans face, in the manner that all other animals solve it. the nobel people are solving the most difficult problems humans can solve so far, and have to come up with a solution that no human has ever thought about before in history.

  24. @Mike Tre
    The nurture aspect of the human condition is fairly well illustrated here. The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave.

    Replies: @Just Some JB, @Rob, @europeasant

    The nurture aspect of the human condition is fairly well illustrated here. The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave.

    Perhaps. However, one could just as easily assert that blacks’ greater homicidal tendencies are due to genetics.

  25. @Jack D
    So if you do the math, are black males 72x more likely to kill someone than white females?

    Why are the most hysterical BLM supporters white females like Lore-Elizabeth ("Not Jewish") Blumenthal?

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/woman-gets-prison-in-police-car-fires-amid-2020-protest/3320889/

    'I channeled all of my outrage and grief into the police, and I wish I’d not done that and had had the coping skills and self-de-escalation I do today,' Lore-Elizabeth Blumenthal said in court.

    "My substance abuse left me feeling utterly self-righteous and impervious to critique,” Blumenthal told Judge Barclay Surrick.

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/lore-elisabeth-blumenthal-etsy-fire-cop-car-3.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1536

    Replies: @Jack D, @Joe Magarac, @anonymouseperson, @Paco Wové

    Why are the most hysterical BLM supporters white females like Lore-Elizabeth (“Not Jewish”) Blumenthal?

    Say what you will about Jews not really being White, no amount of critical theory will convince African Americans that the likes of the woman in the picture isn’t White. They are even kind of weak on the concept of Chinese not being White.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Joe Magarac

    Lore-Elizabeth Blumenthal is not just white, she's full blown Aryan. If she ain't white then nobody is.

    Replies: @Anon

  26. @Mike Tre
    The nurture aspect of the human condition is fairly well illustrated here. The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave.

    Replies: @Just Some JB, @Rob, @europeasant

    Yep. This looks like a real environmental effect. It has the form of a lot of other (seemingly) real environmental effects. It is the reaction to a broad change in the general environment that affects a cohort en masse, likely leaving the genetic bell curve unchanged, but shifting( at least lots of) people more or less equally toward (in this case) higher propensity to commit murder.

    Were the Beatles an environmental affect? Sure, but they hit the culture broadly.

    • Replies: @Just Some JB
    @Rob


    Yep. This looks like a real environmental effect.
     
    Perhaps. But to repeat myself, one could just as easily assert that blacks’ greater homicidal tendencies are due to genetics.

    Replies: @Rob

  27. Blacks are just an incredibly violent people. It is the same all over the world. Blacks commit hugely disproportionate crime in all countries they occupy. This is why people, whatever politically correct woke nonsense they say, do not live around blacks and avoid black areas.

    • Agree: Dr. X
  28. @Redneck farmer
    There Steve goes again, using math to make blacks look bad!

    Replies: @anonymouseperson, @europeasant

    Blacks make blacks look bad. Then call you a “racist” for saying an obvious truth.

  29. @Jack D
    So if you do the math, are black males 72x more likely to kill someone than white females?

    Why are the most hysterical BLM supporters white females like Lore-Elizabeth ("Not Jewish") Blumenthal?

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/woman-gets-prison-in-police-car-fires-amid-2020-protest/3320889/

    'I channeled all of my outrage and grief into the police, and I wish I’d not done that and had had the coping skills and self-de-escalation I do today,' Lore-Elizabeth Blumenthal said in court.

    "My substance abuse left me feeling utterly self-righteous and impervious to critique,” Blumenthal told Judge Barclay Surrick.

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/lore-elisabeth-blumenthal-etsy-fire-cop-car-3.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1536

    Replies: @Jack D, @Joe Magarac, @anonymouseperson, @Paco Wové

    I hope she does a long hard prison sentence.

  30. @Jack D
    So if you do the math, are black males 72x more likely to kill someone than white females?

    Why are the most hysterical BLM supporters white females like Lore-Elizabeth ("Not Jewish") Blumenthal?

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/woman-gets-prison-in-police-car-fires-amid-2020-protest/3320889/

    'I channeled all of my outrage and grief into the police, and I wish I’d not done that and had had the coping skills and self-de-escalation I do today,' Lore-Elizabeth Blumenthal said in court.

    "My substance abuse left me feeling utterly self-righteous and impervious to critique,” Blumenthal told Judge Barclay Surrick.

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/lore-elisabeth-blumenthal-etsy-fire-cop-car-3.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1536

    Replies: @Jack D, @Joe Magarac, @anonymouseperson, @Paco Wové

    You forgot the best part of that article:

    “Ayoub Tabri, 25, was sentenced earlier this month to 364 days behind bars [for setting police cars on fire] — less time than he had already served in custody, and short enough to avoid triggering deportation proceedings for the Moroccan immigrant.”

  31. @Joe Magarac
    @Jack D


    Why are the most hysterical BLM supporters white females like Lore-Elizabeth (“Not Jewish”) Blumenthal?
     
    Say what you will about Jews not really being White, no amount of critical theory will convince African Americans that the likes of the woman in the picture isn't White. They are even kind of weak on the concept of Chinese not being White.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Lore-Elizabeth Blumenthal is not just white, she’s full blown Aryan. If she ain’t white then nobody is.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jack D

    Today I learned stumpy five foot Jewish women with neolithic farmer skulls and fake blonde hair are "Aryan".

    Replies: @Jack D

  32. In previous Censuses, the great majority of people who identified as black did not identify as anything else, so the question of how to count people who identified as black and another race was marginal and everybody agreed blacks were more or less around 13% of the population. But in the 2020 Census, there was a big growth in the number of people identifying as black and something else. So, the self-identified Black Alone population is now around 12 percent and the self-identified Black And Another Race population is now around 14%.

    It looks to me more like 16%, based on about a third of the “mixed” being what would formerly have been called “black”.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/sailer-in-takis-why-black-cities-tend-to-depopulate/#comment-5534488

  33. @HammerJack

    It’s crazy that black to nonblack ratio is worse than the male to female ratio.
     
    What's really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation's prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What's up with that?

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Sick n' Tired, @Bill Jones

    What’s really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation’s prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What’s up with that?

    The fix is being worked on. All they have to do is to have about 45% of men in prison identify as female and you’re there.

  34. @Jack D
    @Joe Magarac

    Lore-Elizabeth Blumenthal is not just white, she's full blown Aryan. If she ain't white then nobody is.

    Replies: @Anon

    Today I learned stumpy five foot Jewish women with neolithic farmer skulls and fake blonde hair are “Aryan”.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anon

    For the millionth time, she's not Jewish. Not everyone with a Germanic surname is Jewish. Some people with German names are actually German believe it or not.

    Lore-Elizabeth was the daughter of (Catholic) LaSalle University professor of German, Bernhardt Blumenthal (and sister to Heidemarie and brother to Karl-Rainer):

    https://www.inquirer.com/philly/obituaries/20120930_Long-serving_LaSalle_department_chairman.html

    How stupid do you have to be to believe that Heidemarie and Karl-Rainer's sister is Jewish?

    To the person who wished her a long hard sentence, she got 2.5 years. Since she had already been in jail for almost that long awaiting trial, they let her go soon after she was sentenced. As a white person having agency, she got the longest sentence. TBH, 2.5 years is about right for torching a car - she didn't kill anyone and most people will think that it's not worth 2.5 years of your life to trash a pig's car. She also gets two years of supervised release, and was ordered to pay more than $95,000 restitution so I think that is a fair sentence. One can only hope that the Jan. 6 peaceful protestors also receive fair sentences for what they did.

    Replies: @Anon

  35. @Anon
    @Jack D

    Today I learned stumpy five foot Jewish women with neolithic farmer skulls and fake blonde hair are "Aryan".

    Replies: @Jack D

    For the millionth time, she’s not Jewish. Not everyone with a Germanic surname is Jewish. Some people with German names are actually German believe it or not.

    Lore-Elizabeth was the daughter of (Catholic) LaSalle University professor of German, Bernhardt Blumenthal (and sister to Heidemarie and brother to Karl-Rainer):

    https://www.inquirer.com/philly/obituaries/20120930_Long-serving_LaSalle_department_chairman.html

    How stupid do you have to be to believe that Heidemarie and Karl-Rainer’s sister is Jewish?

    To the person who wished her a long hard sentence, she got 2.5 years. Since she had already been in jail for almost that long awaiting trial, they let her go soon after she was sentenced. As a white person having agency, she got the longest sentence. TBH, 2.5 years is about right for torching a car – she didn’t kill anyone and most people will think that it’s not worth 2.5 years of your life to trash a pig’s car. She also gets two years of supervised release, and was ordered to pay more than $95,000 restitution so I think that is a fair sentence. One can only hope that the Jan. 6 peaceful protestors also receive fair sentences for what they did.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jack D

    How much of a deracinated cuck, and mentally retarded idiot do you have to be, in order to not realize that this man is Jewish?


    http://media.philly.com/images/o-blumenthal30z-400.jpg

    You also completely ignored the fact that his stubby fake-blonde Neolithic peanut-skulled daughter is Jewish looking as well.

    Google "Bernard Blumenthal". Literally everyone named Bernard Blumenthal is a Jewish archetype. Blumenthal is a name invented by Jews who spoke German. God bless your little heart if you thought it was "germanic"

    https://cache.legacy.net/legacy/images/cobrands/hartfordcourant/photos/photo_011118_DIT2218166_1_Photo1_cropped_20140311.jpg


    Keep hating on "pigs" and defending the Jewish agitator, ya filthy little cuck.

    Replies: @Jack D

  36. The bulk of black violence is tied to drug gangs. Lucrative black markets always attract violence, it’s absolutely necessary since those who own the property of lucrative black markets can’t depend on legal security(i.e. – police) for protection. During the prohibition wars, young white males were responsible for the bulk of violence in America. But no one is addressing a 10,000 lb elephant in the room. Whites have an enormous heroin problem. Where do they purchase their daily fix? Why, in inner city black communities. So law abiding blacks in those communities shoulder the burden of drug gang violence produced by their own people and the white addicts who live outside of their communities. Doesn’t sound fair to me, how about you? Why not restrict drug purchasing in black communities to black addicts and let white addiction create drug markets –that always chase addiction — in white communities. A fair solution?

    • Troll: AceDeuce
  37. @Wilkey
    @HammerJack


    What’s really crazy is how many women are clamoring for proportional representation in our nation’s prison systems. Approximately zero, near as I can tell. What’s up with that?
     
    My strategy has long been to ask all of those virtue signalling, BLM-supporting women out there why male:female imprisonment rates aren't equal. I have yet to come across a woman who didn't get hysterical when I asked them that.

    Replies: @VivaLaMigra

    I have yet to come across a woman who didn’t get hysterical when I asked them [sic] that.

    You meant, of course: “I have yet to come across a woman who didn’t get hysterical when I asked her that.

    The subject of your sentence was a singular human female; to wit: “a woman.” Therefore the grammatically, and logically, correct objective case pronoun is her. Why are you falling into the trap of attempting to use “them” as a SINGULAR, and gender neutral, pronoun? “Them” is plural, period. It’s used when the antecedent is two or more people, of either or mixed sexes. When the antecedent’s gender is unknown, the default is he/his/him. However, in this particular case, you have clearly stated that you asked “a woman.” Now, you may think this it nitpicking, but we have grammatical rules for a reason: fuzzy language stems from fuzzy thinking. On that score, I find you guilty. Or, even WORSE, “woke.”

    • Agree: Kim
  38. @Diversity Heretic
    I'm not certain why Steve thinks the ratio of black to white homicide rates is "crazy." He's been documenting the Ferguson effect, then the Floyd effect. The policing techniques that kept black crime down to previous levels have been largely withdrawn and blacks are increasingly free to carry weapons and to use them with less and less fear of apprehension or punishment. The results are entirely predictable, not crazy.

    Replies: @Travis

    Even before Ferguson and BLM the ratio of Black to white homicides rates was 8 to 1. We should expect the ratio to be worse today than during the 980s because we have more young Black males today and fewer young whites. The average White America is 47 years-old today , while the average age of African-Americans is 32 years-old.

    In 1980 Blacks were 12% of the under 30 population. Today Blacks are 15% of the under 30 population. This is a significant difference and helps explain the reason Blacks are responsible for 60% of the homicides today. Blacks may be killing more today, but they are a larger percentage of the youth population today so we should expect Blacks would be responsible for more homicides in 2021 compared to 40 year ago

    Looking at the age cohort responsible for most homicides we can focus on the population of Americans aged 15 to 34 years-old and how the demographics have changed.

    15-34 years-olds —–1980 census —2020 census
    Non-hispanic Whites —- 62 million – 45 million
    African Americans——— 9 million – 14 million

    The number of whites aged 15-34 has declined by 30% since 1980, the number of young Blacks has increased by 50% since 1980. So we should expect a larger share of homicide victims and killers will be Black as they are a much larger share of this age cohort today.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Travis

    Thanks.

    But keep in mind I'm calculating not the black vs. white ratio but the black vs. non black ratio. Since 1980, America has added, what, 50 million Hispanics and 18 million Asians?

    Replies: @Travis

  39. @Travis
    @Diversity Heretic

    Even before Ferguson and BLM the ratio of Black to white homicides rates was 8 to 1. We should expect the ratio to be worse today than during the 980s because we have more young Black males today and fewer young whites. The average White America is 47 years-old today , while the average age of African-Americans is 32 years-old.

    In 1980 Blacks were 12% of the under 30 population. Today Blacks are 15% of the under 30 population. This is a significant difference and helps explain the reason Blacks are responsible for 60% of the homicides today. Blacks may be killing more today, but they are a larger percentage of the youth population today so we should expect Blacks would be responsible for more homicides in 2021 compared to 40 year ago

    Looking at the age cohort responsible for most homicides we can focus on the population of Americans aged 15 to 34 years-old and how the demographics have changed.

    15-34 years-olds -----1980 census ---2020 census
    Non-hispanic Whites ---- 62 million - 45 million
    African Americans--------- 9 million - 14 million

    The number of whites aged 15-34 has declined by 30% since 1980, the number of young Blacks has increased by 50% since 1980. So we should expect a larger share of homicide victims and killers will be Black as they are a much larger share of this age cohort today.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

    But keep in mind I’m calculating not the black vs. white ratio but the black vs. non black ratio. Since 1980, America has added, what, 50 million Hispanics and 18 million Asians?

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Steve Sailer

    good point...looking at the census data again....Blacks are ~16% of the 15-44 year-old cohort today verse ~12% back in 1980. Since we counted mulattoes and quadroons as black in 1980 we should count them as Black in 2020 to be consistent. https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2020/demo/popest/2020-demographic-analysis-tables.html

    15-44 year-olds - 1980 —--- 2020
    Non-Black —- 93 million –- 110 million (84%)
    Black(Negro)- 12 million –-- 21 million (16%)

    So we observe a notable increase in the percentage of young Americans who are Black compared to 40 years ago. This is meaningful, since this is the age cohort responsible for most homicides. Most, if not all, mixed race Blacks would be counted as Black by the FBI in 2020 just as they were counted as Black by the FBI in 1980. If Patrick Mahomes, Halle Berry or Derik Jeter were involved in a homicide, the FBI would classify them as Black homicides, despite the fact that they are only part Black and mostly White. If Big Pappi David Ortiz killed Sammy Sosa would they be counted as Black or White by the FBI ?

  40. Is this the number of offenders or offenses (body count) for each race?

  41. Anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Anon

    For the millionth time, she's not Jewish. Not everyone with a Germanic surname is Jewish. Some people with German names are actually German believe it or not.

    Lore-Elizabeth was the daughter of (Catholic) LaSalle University professor of German, Bernhardt Blumenthal (and sister to Heidemarie and brother to Karl-Rainer):

    https://www.inquirer.com/philly/obituaries/20120930_Long-serving_LaSalle_department_chairman.html

    How stupid do you have to be to believe that Heidemarie and Karl-Rainer's sister is Jewish?

    To the person who wished her a long hard sentence, she got 2.5 years. Since she had already been in jail for almost that long awaiting trial, they let her go soon after she was sentenced. As a white person having agency, she got the longest sentence. TBH, 2.5 years is about right for torching a car - she didn't kill anyone and most people will think that it's not worth 2.5 years of your life to trash a pig's car. She also gets two years of supervised release, and was ordered to pay more than $95,000 restitution so I think that is a fair sentence. One can only hope that the Jan. 6 peaceful protestors also receive fair sentences for what they did.

    Replies: @Anon

    How much of a deracinated cuck, and mentally retarded idiot do you have to be, in order to not realize that this man is Jewish?


    You also completely ignored the fact that his stubby fake-blonde Neolithic peanut-skulled daughter is Jewish looking as well.

    Google “Bernard Blumenthal”. Literally everyone named Bernard Blumenthal is a Jewish archetype. Blumenthal is a name invented by Jews who spoke German. God bless your little heart if you thought it was “germanic”

    Keep hating on “pigs” and defending the Jewish agitator, ya filthy little cuck.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anon

    Unz.com - the last bastion of phrenology. I highly recommend Der Giftpilz. It's a good primer with which to brush up your Jew sniffing skills, which are sorely lacking:

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/der-giftpilz

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/Holocaust/toad3a.jpg

    "The Jewish nose is bent. It looks like the number six..."

  42. @Rob
    @Mike Tre

    Yep. This looks like a real environmental effect. It has the form of a lot of other (seemingly) real environmental effects. It is the reaction to a broad change in the general environment that affects a cohort en masse, likely leaving the genetic bell curve unchanged, but shifting( at least lots of) people more or less equally toward (in this case) higher propensity to commit murder.

    Were the Beatles an environmental affect? Sure, but they hit the culture broadly.

    Replies: @Just Some JB

    Yep. This looks like a real environmental effect.

    Perhaps. But to repeat myself, one could just as easily assert that blacks’ greater homicidal tendencies are due to genetics.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Just Some JB

    Black people had a 30% (or whatever) higher murder rate in.2020 than in 2019 because of genetic changes in the population over that year?

    The Δ must be environmental.

  43. @Steve Sailer
    @Travis

    Thanks.

    But keep in mind I'm calculating not the black vs. white ratio but the black vs. non black ratio. Since 1980, America has added, what, 50 million Hispanics and 18 million Asians?

    Replies: @Travis

    good point…looking at the census data again….Blacks are ~16% of the 15-44 year-old cohort today verse ~12% back in 1980. Since we counted mulattoes and quadroons as black in 1980 we should count them as Black in 2020 to be consistent. https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2020/demo/popest/2020-demographic-analysis-tables.html

    15-44 year-olds – 1980 —— 2020
    Non-Black —- 93 million –- 110 million (84%)
    Black(Negro)- 12 million –– 21 million (16%)

    So we observe a notable increase in the percentage of young Americans who are Black compared to 40 years ago. This is meaningful, since this is the age cohort responsible for most homicides. Most, if not all, mixed race Blacks would be counted as Black by the FBI in 2020 just as they were counted as Black by the FBI in 1980. If Patrick Mahomes, Halle Berry or Derik Jeter were involved in a homicide, the FBI would classify them as Black homicides, despite the fact that they are only part Black and mostly White. If Big Pappi David Ortiz killed Sammy Sosa would they be counted as Black or White by the FBI ?

  44. @Just Some JB
    @Rob


    Yep. This looks like a real environmental effect.
     
    Perhaps. But to repeat myself, one could just as easily assert that blacks’ greater homicidal tendencies are due to genetics.

    Replies: @Rob

    Black people had a 30% (or whatever) higher murder rate in.2020 than in 2019 because of genetic changes in the population over that year?

    The Δ must be environmental.

  45. @Anon
    @Jack D

    How much of a deracinated cuck, and mentally retarded idiot do you have to be, in order to not realize that this man is Jewish?


    http://media.philly.com/images/o-blumenthal30z-400.jpg

    You also completely ignored the fact that his stubby fake-blonde Neolithic peanut-skulled daughter is Jewish looking as well.

    Google "Bernard Blumenthal". Literally everyone named Bernard Blumenthal is a Jewish archetype. Blumenthal is a name invented by Jews who spoke German. God bless your little heart if you thought it was "germanic"

    https://cache.legacy.net/legacy/images/cobrands/hartfordcourant/photos/photo_011118_DIT2218166_1_Photo1_cropped_20140311.jpg


    Keep hating on "pigs" and defending the Jewish agitator, ya filthy little cuck.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Unz.com – the last bastion of phrenology. I highly recommend Der Giftpilz. It’s a good primer with which to brush up your Jew sniffing skills, which are sorely lacking:

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/der-giftpilz

    “The Jewish nose is bent. It looks like the number six…”

  46. @Mike Tre
    The nurture aspect of the human condition is fairly well illustrated here. The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave.

    Replies: @Just Some JB, @Rob, @europeasant

    “The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave”

    I call bullshit. The real culprit who made them act bad is the “Debil”.

    You can quote me on that.

  47. @Redneck farmer
    There Steve goes again, using math to make blacks look bad!

    Replies: @anonymouseperson, @europeasant

    “The less intensive authority blacks receive, the worse they behave”

    I call bullshit. The real culprit who made them act bad is the “Debil”.

    You can quote me on that.

  48. The female homicide rate is far higher than reported, because females dont make violent attacks: they abuse positions of trust and tend to use poison.

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