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As Dave Weigel tweeted, every university has 10,000 staffers but none seem to have any contingency plans.
On the other hand, while Columbia University in upper Manhattan has been wracked by protests over the war in Gaza, New York University in lower Manhattan was an oasis of calm on Thursday. In part, this is due to NYU’s brilliant strategy of owning individual buildings in Greenwich Village but not a traditional campus with a quad that demonstrators could commandeer to erect a shanty town upon.
Washington Square Park, a site for countless demonstrations over the generations, serves as NYU’s de facto quad, but that’s public rather than university property. So students wanting to protest NYU’s program in Tel Aviv and investment of its endowment in part in Israeli assets feel that would be inappropriate.
So that leaves only two NYU-owned properties appropriate for demonstrating: first, outdoors, the courtyard outside the Stern School of Business and the Tisch School of Communications. But that has been walled off with plywood, with multiple security guards checking entrances to prevent outside agitators from getting in.
Second, indoors, the Kimmel Stairs in the Kimmel Center for student life. But most of the steps have been blocked off since October 7 (despite a promise to the local community upon construction to keep them open to the public), and guards now keep out looky-loos.
Reasons given for blocking off most of the Kimmel Stairs have been vague. The Washington Square Local has been covering the Kimmel Steps controversy:
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What are the odds that Boeing assassinated these whistleblowers? 20%? 50%? 70%?
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Now, do Gaza where the bloodbath is happening.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
So at some level, you seem to understand that when Columbia, UCLA and others act against those Hamas groupies, the issue is trespassing on private property and not some kind of hegemonic Jewish mind-control.
It’ll help clear things up further when Mr. Sailer
• weighs in on the Antisemitism Awareness Act, which just passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 320 to 91
and
• lets this comment through.*
*Three of mine elsewhere have been Whimmed for 20 hours and counting.
I have discussed these protests with some Republican friends and, unlike me, they are pretty hostile to the protestors. They view Muslim countries as filled with inbred religious fanatics who want to flood Europe and America with Muslim immigrants who will bring Sharia law with them.
What would probably be more effective in the case of normal Americans is just appeal to our past policy of not getting entangled in foreign wars. There is a long tradition of this in our history, especially early on. Many Americans are now getting tired of these endless wars, especially after our failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
A majority of House Republicans just voted against more military assistance to the Ukraine. They were getting an earful from their constituents that we need to focus on domestic problems like out of control government spending, too many immigrants and high crime. We need to end military assistance to other countries because it brings little benefit to us. In the case of Muslims, our foreign meddling already led to blowback on 9/11.
Not sure how much this has sunk in with the public at large, but the fact that we are seeing the same language, tactics, and so on in multiple places around one particular issue is quite revealing about a) the level of activism that seems to be the primary purpose of many ‘educators’ and b) how few liberal arts professors have a single original thought.
Along with many others I have long recognized that a massive share of college students have no business being in higher ed, with their only real purpose being a conduit for loans that pose no risk to the institutions themselves to fund legions of administrators and so on. But not being in academia I suppose I hadn’t truly grasped how many teaching positions are filled with full time political activists who just jump onboard the Current Thing.
Among the many misses of the Trump presidency, it’s obvious a big one was to impose some reforms on higher ed that would force them into some tough fiscal decisions, which naturally influences their educational programming and staffing. This really needs to be something to be acted on if the GOP ever holds power again.
The Tuscaloosa protest was, to say the least, funny.
Both sides wound up chanting, “F*** Joe Biden” in unison.
Like before your grandparents were born? Your “Republican friends” have always been pillow fighters when it comes to imperialism, and I suspect you’ve marched along. Is any of the following not true?
Mark G voiced no objection at the time to Uncle Sam’s wars in/on
• Vietnam
• Grenada
• Panama
• Iraq (Bush I)
• Serbia
• Afghanistan
• Iraq (Bush II)
• Libya
• Ukraine (2014)
The best place in Manhattan to protest against Israel’s utterly inexcusable war crimes is the ADL headquarters, on 3rd Ave. between 39th street and 40 street.
The Israel lobby is the real culprit, and the ADL is the heart of the Israel lobby.
> the level of activism that seems to be the primary purpose of many educators
Decades back, the Intelligent Design (ie Creationist) movement was scorned by mainstream scientists. They devised the excellent counter-strategy of creating their own academic peer-reviewed journals, allowing them to fill out c.v.s in a way that facilitated career advancement as well as acceptance of their ideas.
Unfortunately — for them — they couldn’t achieve critical mass.
Many latter-day progressive movements in the social sciences and hard sciences drew inspiration from the ID’ers. They went one better, capturing august, staid mainstream organs of information production. Nature, Science, and PNAS are prominent examples that come immediately to mind.
See also John Sailer’s FOIA work, demonstrating how the new Jim Crow — “no not-extreme-left Gentile whites need apply” — operates at the grad student, postdoc, and assistant professor rungs of the academic career ladder.
That gave me a sorely needed laugh. Thank you.
Just stopped by to see if Steve “noticed” the antisemitism bill. You know the one that goes against everything Steve claims to believe in.
Not surprisingly, he hasn’t. I think we all know where – and with whom – Steve stands these days, maybe always did. Oh well, best to all.
“and not some kind of hegemonic Jewish mind-control.”
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The myth of shadowy Jewish hegemony, always idiotic (but for some reason, alive and well on unz.com) is decisively disproved by the fact that all these pro-terrorist demonstrations are allowed to proceed and cause such mayhem — even in NYC! Where are the puppeteers? Perhaps sleeping, or on vacation; or nonexistent.
The issue is the genocidal cleansing of Palestine, which is being perpetrated by Jews.
NYU has a high proportion of Asians among its student body, and as best I can tell they’re not big into political activism.
It’s Columbia. Their students have some business being in higher education. The problem is that their hiring and admissions screens make it a collecting pool of spoiled brats.
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1. Stop subsidizing private higher education. The only public money they should get would be (1) Medicare and Medicaid re-imbursements if they have a university medical center and (2) an indemnity for loss of services if one of their faculty lands a fellowship with a public agency and (3) disaster relief if they get caught in a tornado. The only public financing their students should receive should be vouchers or scholarships awarded through ROTC or as veterans’ benefits.
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2. Limit government funding of public higher education to (1) the sorts private institutions receive, (2) bond issues to finance endowments whose interest and dividends can finance research grants to resident faculty. Such issues would have to be approved in a referendum and the distribution of proceeds among the state’s institutions would follow a prescribed formula; (3) voucher redemptions. Students admitted to an institution would have a contingent claim on a tuition voucher and a room-and-board voucher. They exercise the claim by paying a recipient’s fee which is a fraction of the redemption value of the voucher. The fee is calculated according to the student’s residence history in the state. The student prevents the vouchers to the school and clears the student’s obligation to the school. The school presents the vouchers to dedicated state funds from which they are redeemed at face value. The dedicated funds are financed through a special state income tax whose proceeds approximate a certain percentage of the state’s total personal income flow. Unless they have a university medical center, the schools get next-to-nothing out of the state or federal treasury.
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3. End government guarantees on student loans and scale back the creditor protection on student loan programs. Have students apply to banks, credit unions, and finance companies for loans and no co-signing.
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4. Require that schools of all sorts who enroll out-of-state students publish an audited statement on the stock and flow of demographic segments among their students, faculty, and other employees. Incorporate criminal penalties for lying which allow for prosecution of the corporation and prosecution of particular officials therein. In particular the college board scores (medians and standard deviations) of different segments of their student body must be made public and the GRE / MCAT / LSAT / GMAT scores of different segments of their faculty must be published.
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5. Require all schools other than community and technical colleges have a board of trustees of an odd number between 4 and 20. By default, each trustee would have an equal vote and by default the board would be chosen by a postal ballot among alumni registered to vote in the state in which the school is headquartered. Such ballots would be held the fourth year of a quadrennial cycle, candidates would have to be on the voter roll in the state, and no one who had served on the board for 14 of the last 16 years or would hit that wall in the coming term could stand as a candidate. Schools could seek dispensations to allow for alternative models, but these would have to be approved by the board of regents and subject to periodic review. (Alternative models might be a self-regenerating board for a start up and episcopal trustees for church-affiliated schools). Community and technical colleges would be governed by delegates from the local school boards in their catchment area.
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6. Require in federal law and state law that a president selected by a board of trustees be someone who has not in the previous ten years been employed by an institution of higher education. The federal law would cover out-0f-state recruitment and the state law in-state recruitment.
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7. Require transparent pricing from institutions in federal law and in state law. The mandatory charges laid on the student should be tuition and room-and-board. The institution might have fee-for-service income and the like, but both formally and structurally the student would not be compelled to make use of the goods and services so vended. (Textbook purchases and parking fines would be about as compulsory as such charges could be). The institution would be required by law to disclose the annual sales of the commercial component per constituent. Students would receive discounts on tuition and room and board financed by special endowment funds or by discretionary allocations incorporated into the institution’s budget as approved by the trustees. The mean discount per student over the previous four years would have to be disclosed to prospective students. The student’s obligatory charge would then be financed by family assets, commercial loans, and / or grants from third parties.
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8. Require schools who wish to admit foreign students or hire foreign teachers purchase visas for same (and their dependents). The federal government would hold tri-quarterly multiple price auctions of seven-year temporary residency visas. Any time left unused on a visa would be dumped on a secondary market exchange. If you’ve been admitted to the country on an educational visa, you are debarred for re-admission for a number of years after your return home, four months for every month you resided in the United States. The number of visas to be auctioned every four months would be a function of (1) the total population of temporary residents in the country known to authorities and (2) the sum of time available on the secondary market exchange. NB the transparent pricing rule delineated above. Some portion of the economic costs of these visas would be effectively borne by the student and / or his benefactors, but the accounting cost could not be passed on to the student. It would also be required under federal law that anyone over the age of 14 admitted to the country on an educational visa first pass an English proficiency test, written and oral.
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9. Require in federal law that cross-border contracts to hire employees (faculty and otherwise) not exceed six semesters in duration in re the primary contract and not exceed two semesters in re a terminal contract. Debar in state law term contracts exceeding 12 semesters, terminal contracts exceeding 30% of one’s years of service, and grants of continuous tenure to faculty members under the age of 55 and to faculty members with fewer than 12 years of f/t service.
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10. Mandate in state law that all faculty are emeritus and have teaching duties limited to filling for faculty on leave or when a position is vacant when (1) they are eligible for full Social Security and (2) they are eligible for Medicare and (3) they have paid into TIAA-CREF for 35 years (FTE).
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11. Debar in federal law enrollment of out-of-state students to follow degree programs outside of a statutory glossary. Have companion state legislation which does the same in re in-state students. The glossary would prescribe a standard nomenclature and capsule description for all degree programs. Left out of the glossary would be victimology programs and fuzzy ‘interdisciplinary’ programs. Capsule descriptions would rule out teacher-training programs which incorporated anything but methods courses. Also excluded would be programs in social work and library administration.
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12. Debar in federal law inter-state recruitment to enroll in baccalaureate degree programs, and have companion state legislation which does the same. Require an undergraduate program in academics and the arts consist of a one, two, or three year course of study in a discrete subject. 30 credits per year. You’re awarded a degree for each year successfully completed. Require those for occupational subjects be < 30 credits, 3o credits, 48 credits, or 60 credits (with longer programs for the fancy professions). Preparatory certificates of academic, business, and technology courses could be required to enter occupational or professional schools, but they would be limited in their duration (with the longest being for medical schools and law schools at 60-75 credits).
That paragraph doesn’t make much sense to me and I don’t think it’s true. I don’t think “latter-day progressive movements” were paying any attention to obscure Intelligent Design journals. (I’d never even heard of them.) But anyways, if they were, what does that have to do with them then taking over popular mainstream magazines?
Speaking though of NYU and the topic of Intelligent Design*– NYU Philosopher Thomas Nagel wrote Mind and Cosmos a dozen years ago, and no one has been able to explain how he’s wrong that “the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False.” I dared Razib Khan to read the book back when his vituperation was hosted around here, but he never got back to me.
*Nagel, who is an atheist, doesn’t endorse ID (he prefers a teleological notion) but does defend Michael Behe et al against their critics, who he considers intellectually dishonest.
It’s baffling to me that any American would have such a personal stake in the plight of the Palestinians that they would risk arrest by occupying private property. The Vietnam protestors had a personal stake – young American men were being drafted. Same with the Civil Rights protests – blacks had grievances.
But where is the personal stake here? People on the other side of the world with absolutely no historic, cultural or religious ties to America are being killed? So? That happens all the time and no one protests.
Right. It’s just about private property rights and nothing about Jews and Israel. It’s also about the sacredness of places of higher education. That’s why all these schools cleaned out those BLM and Antifa people immediately.
Like everything else, it is all about the hierarchy in our Orwellian world. Some animals are just far more equal than others. Jews are the most equal of all – the Anglo-Zionist Empire is Talmudic, obviously. Blacks may be next most equal, but only if they defer to Jews. Same with gays. Same with Mohammedans. Because Indians have a long history of blindly serving the Brit WASP Empire, the mothership of Anglo-Zionism, they also are very highly equal, but not if they cross Jews.
All the ‘more equal’ groups are expected to be happy serving Jews because they get to help dispossess the vast majority of whites. In this specific instance, Mohammedans, and whites who romanticize Islam as some fine alternative to Christianity, are being forced to accept that if they wish to remain more equal than white Chrisdtians they must allow Jews to inflict genocide on Palestinians.
So these idiotic Republicans you know are not aware of Jews in HUGE numbers demanding that the West keep importing more and more Mohammedans?
Cornell had a shanty town erected on campus in protest of apartheid in South Africa in the 1980s, and everyone seemed to think that was just fine. No donors or alums or current students lost their minds over it. As I recall it was up for quite awhile..
OT – Violent crime increases within Chicago public schools as arrests decrease:
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/violent-crime-surges-26-at-chicago-public-schools-arrests-hit-record-low/
Oh, the house didn’t vote to send money to Ukraine? Lol. THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.
“They view Muslim countries as filled with inbred religious fanatics who want to flood Europe and America with Muslim immigrants who will bring Sharia law with them.”
A BETTER approach would be to inform the American people that a different group of inbred religious fanatics is responsible for flooding Europe with Muslims–and we’re next, precisely because of this Gaza conflict.
I view this whole pro-Palestinian / anti-Israel protest thing as (yet another) indicator of the decline of this country. It never would have happened 40 years ago. It is a product of the changing demographics of this country – the increase in the numbers of people from the third World, specifically muslim countries.
Ultimately it is an ethnic conflict between two ethnic groups that are not mine, so I don’t care. Except now I have to care because they’ve brought it to my country. I don’t care who wins because, win or lose, it means that I’ve lost.
I have no sympathy for the pro-Israel side which conflates protest with “terrorism”, and trots out the well-worn “let’s you and him fight” schtick.
I have no sympathy for the pro-Palestinian side with their commie attitudes and boundless sense of entitlement, so well displayed here:
F**k all of them.
This is just wrong – ahistorical – a massive misreading of history.
The ID people have never had any influence in society. Their journals were mostly ignored, and to the extent they were not ignored, they were vilified.
Progressives (i.e. leftists) didn’t draw inspiration from the ID movement or even pay much of any attention to them. Progressives have been in the business of capturing institutions at least since Gramsci advocated that very thing back in the 30s. That is what progressives do. It is most of what they do. Nobody had to instruct them how to do it, certainly not ID proponents who never did it themselves and were never any good at it.
So, what about the students who don’t want to protest NYU investment but want to protest genocide? Or hadn’t you noticed that’s what they are protesting?
I view this whole pro-Palestinian / anti-Israel protest thing as (yet another) indicator of the decline of this country. It never would have happened 40 years ago. It is a product of the changing demographics of this country – the increase in the numbers of people from the third World, specifically muslim countries.
Ultimately it is an ethnic conflict between two ethnic groups that are not mine, so I don’t care. Except now I have to care because they’ve brought it to my country. I don’t care who wins because, win or lose, it means that I’ve lost.
I have no sympathy for the pro-Israel side which conflates protest with “terrorism”, and trots out the well-worn “let’s you and him fight” schtick.
I have no sympathy for the pro-Palestinian side with their commie attitudes and boundless sense of entitlement, so well displayed here:
This has been going on for decades. The only change is that they picked a target with real access to counter messaging platforms and Congress. Which itself is as telling in its own bad way as are the familiar tactics of the protestors. In other words, AIPAC is entitled to a congressional defense. Conservative Americans can expect a jail sentence or Lawfare.
Oh, okay, follow-up quick question: why is trespassing on private property not a crime for anyone but critics of Israel?
of course he does, but let’s be fair…we have to admit that a different set of rules applies depending on what the trespassers are protesting.
I think the point is that it appears only in select instances does “trespassing on private property” become more important than “protester rights.”
I’m not a fan of the trespassing and protests in general, but what I really don’t like are the double standards.
This particular set of protests seems particularly notable for being comparable to two other cases.
– The George Floyd “mostly peaceful protests.”
– The 1980s anti-apartheid protests.
One interesting and perhaps less obvious aspect of those comparisons is that I would bet most of both sides in these protests would have been on the same (protesting) side in the other two.
P.S. A relevant secondary metric is the violence and destructiveness of various protests.
Unless you explain who it does bring benefit to there is no chance of having it stop.
The US funds the Egyptian military because it wants a powerful military built on a patronage network they control to stop democracy and thus a regime that won’t stand up to Israel.
The US funds Ukraine because it never wants the war with Russia to end (The idea anyone in DC cares about Ukraine is insane) so Russia can’t intervene in the Middle East to counterbalance the US like it did with Syria which caused the neocons to use their fucking minds and run headlong into what looks like a decisive defeat for American hegemony. All they can do is just prolong the war to tie the Russians down. Like I’ve said before, 10 dead Ukrainians to produce 1 dead Russian is 1 dead Russian for free for them. The US isn’t even getting the refugees, Western Europe gets all of those.
The US funds Israel for obvious reasons.
But if you don’t mention it’s all for Israel and who the neocons are, sociopathic (Is there any one of the Strussians or Struass himself who had a trace of human empathy and who didn’t seem to be a sadist?) Jewish zionists who have set out to and succeeded in taking key control of US foreign policy in service to their sense of Israel being able to achieve it’s dreams of Greater Israel and generally attack and degrade the enemies Israel makes on the way. Then they will just get away with it.
The normie cons will tire of funding the Ukrainian “losers” but they’ll quickly fall for the next money pit as they get off on using US or proxy forces to kill people they’re told are acceptable targets.
You need to point out the true promoters of this or else they get away with it, no pressure is brought on them, nobody forces them to defend or explain themselves or their actions. That’s what ends things like this. And most crucially, that these people also love open borders to ethnically cleanse a country they have no chance of demographically dominating goes unnoticed. It’s all the same war on Palestine, on Russia and on the West. It’s just the means are different.
Well said! Hear him, hear him!
Where are those 80s Rockers who protested against Apartheid South Africa with that little diddy (no relation to homosexual pedophile P whatever) Sun City or Ain’t Gonna Play Sun City?
Bruce?
Bono?
Madonna?
Anyone?
I can’t figure out how the students find the time. I remember being pretty busy, especially at final exam time.
How do you put a staircase at “half mast?” Is this a special thing they do on a regular basis or was it just to honor OJ for killing white people? If it is anything like how often the U.S. flag is lowered to half mast, it would be like that half the time or more.
Is a public university (UCLA) considered private property?
America not getting entangled in foreign affairs would work if the Royal Navy still ruled the waves.
But you had a couple of presidents who saw an opening and took Britain down – you charged them out the nose for any aid, unlike your aid to the Soviet Union.
I’m not really sure if Wilson and Roosevelt were just that anti-English (certainly true to some extent), or whether they saw an opportunity to increase America’s influence.
The other scenario where it would work is if America didn’t actually trade with the rest of the world. But that would result in a much poorer America, and a much poorer rest of the world. So it might be more restless as well.
Somebody has to police things, and America benefits the most from peacefulness.
At least half of the people arrested in shutting down the protests are not actually students. And non-students would be under-represented, as they would likely have more sense than to stick around.
Correction. The Kimmel Stairs are located in the Kimmel Center for University Life which is a student activity center. They are not located in Bobst Library.
I am genuinely curious how Steve was able to find these niche NYU staircase memes from a hyperlocal Shitpost Instagram page.
Like, did someone post these on twitter?
Seriously, how did you find these?
“most of the steps have been blocked off since October 7 (despite a promise to the local community upon construction to keep them open to the public), and guards now keep out looky-loos.”
I honestly thought this was a typo, that the correct term is loopy-loos.
Of course, some perfer to sing it Loopty-loo
OT — German munitions plant aflame, possible poisonous gas cloud forming over city. Made anti-aircraft missiles for Nuland’s Folly.
https://www.rt.com/news/596963-german-arms-manufacturer-plant-fire-berlin/
Interestingly enough, Columbia has more than twice the Jewish representation than NYU in its student body.
Maybe we have a finally truce in Gaza so the situation calms down, a celestial peace.
“Kimmel Stairs at Half Mast to Honor O.J. Simpson’s Passing”?
Stairs can be “half mast”? (Only in NYC I guess…)
Was NYU holding some big “O.J. Welcome to Hell!” party there that day?
I can’t speak to Mark G., but I opposed our splendid little adventure in Panama and each one since then.
Any info on the total number of Boeing whistleblowers who provided a deposition in the lawsuit?
I think it’s a combination of self-interest and morality, personally. People on the other side of the world with absolutely no historic, cultural or religious ties to America are being killed? That’s one thing. People on the other side of the world with absolutely no historic, cultural or religious ties to America are being killed with American money, and American diplomatic cover, at a time when we have done the thing Brzezinski said would be horrible? (Pushing Russia, China and Iran into a common grouping?) That’s something different entirely.
In an odd role reversal: Zelensky throws a Canadian Colonel under the bus.
https://johnhelmer.net/canada-is-losing-its-war-against-russia-so-it-has-threatened-senior-army-officers-with-court-martial-for-disloyalty/#more-89851
I opposed all the wars you listed, except Vietnam. I was too young to oppose that. I voted for Pat Buchanan in the Republican primaries because he was the isolationist candidate, I voted for Ron Paul in the Republican primaries because he was the isolationist candidate, and I voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 Republican primary because he said the Iraq war was a mistake.
I am not an anarchist and do think we need a military but it should be used only for defensive purposes. My comment history reflects that belief. If you saw me say something that you misinterpreted as being interventionist, I wanted to clear that up.
I usually like your comments here when I see them.
My guess would be 50%
This reminds me of the suspicious death of Gary Webb.
Who says it could only be Boeing? They make more than civilian aircraft. The company’s well-being is important to a lot of actors.
Sorry, OT:
A second Boeing whistleblower dies suddenly?
To lose one whistleblower may be regarded as a misfortune…
It’s the Filipinos.
Whether or not we did the right thing in those cases, we had a genuine interest in both Panama and Grenada. Pres. Monroe might have agreed. Their coordinates feature both an N and a W, in double digits.
Everyone talks as if this were two separate wars, rather than a single one with an extended cease fire, the breaking of which being a matter of dispute. Everyone questions the latter part, but few question the former.
Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait triggered a response from the West, due to earlier obligations, not to mention United Nations approval. Ours dated from at least 1987’s Operation Earnest Will, meant to protect Kuwaiti shipping from Iran. (By reflagging it as “American”. Shades of Kinky Friedman.) As for the rest of the West, Winston S Churchill said at the time that Iraq itself was his namesake grandfather’s invention. Interference didn’t begin in 2003, or 1991.
That Churchill and FDR– who, like Bush fils exaggerated the enemy’s nuclear capabilities, perhaps deliberately– are still considered heroes today. But they weren’t that different from the Bushes.
Thanks for the reminder of that particular piece of 80’s nostalgia.
And now for something completely OT.
Here is a long but fascinating piece which explains how to build a $20 billion chip fab.
https://www.construction-physics.com/p/how-to-build-a-20-billion-semiconductor
Those critics remain intellectually dishonest to this day. Typical is the characterization in Wikipedia, that Mossad/Diaspora propaganda project, of Intelligent Design as a “pseudoscientific principle.” This verdict depends largely, if not solely, on the claim that ID is “rejected by the vast majority of the [members of the] scientific community.” In other words, what is sound in science is to be determined by a committee.*
I clearly recall the reaction in the mid-nineties to the publication of Darwin’s Black Box. After a nervous but relatively respectful essay review in the New York Times Book Review, the rest of the Establishment, seeing that Behe’s thesis was not going to be easy to respond to, opted to behave like Pod People** who have spotted a human. The Establishment soon realized, however, that the silence of avant la lettre cancellation, combined with simplistic Wikipedia-style denialism, was far and away the most effective response to anti-Narrative heresy.
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*Recall that Pluto was kicked out of the Planet Club on the basis of the same rationale—if irrationality may be so characterized.
**Cf. Jack Finney’s Body Snatchers and the subsequent films based on it.
During the Vietnam protests, many students protested, at least in part, to burnish their soulful-peaceability credentials. If you played the guitar, that took care of soulful peaceability, and you didn’t need to protest, or schlepp all the way to New Hampshire to campaign for Eugene McCarthy. If you lacked a demonstrable guitar exemption, then to enhance your biological-imperative prospects, you got out there. That was the scene. I would be charitable, and say that the “biological imperative” was operating subconsciously, except John Baez made it rather explicit when she popularized the salacious “Girls Say Yes to Boys Who Say No” poster. For the above to be most effective, a quad or lawn is needed, not scattered buildings. Pair bonding works very strongly when there is physical propinquity. Digressing somewhat, an interesting fact is that the majority of married couples lived within walking distance of each other at the time they first met. Now, if you asked people to list the characteristics of their ideal mate, nobody would list “lives within walking distance.” Yet, there it is. Could pair-bonding be mainly adventitious? .. what a bummer that would be.
Columbia and NYU are private property*, but UCLA is ostensibly the property of the California Republic– a “RINO”?– and her citizens. There may be a few layers of protective “ownership” between people and school, but still…
Note that they are the Stern and Tisch** Schools. Thomas Fleming told a Rockford Institute audience that Jewish influence was being misread– it didn’t come from hectoring and blocking, but from supporting potential allies. He gave the example of “Godfather” Irving Kristol, who had backed small conservative groups at a time of need. Sensitivity to Jewish concerns can be based as much in gratitude as in fear.
Hectorer Bill Kristol is just evidence of regression to the mean. Note that NYU’s business school was founded by Mayflower descendant Charles Waldo Haskins (1852-1903) in 1900, named for Leonard Stern (1938-), for whose father Yeshiva’s Stern School for Women was named, in 1988, and led by Madras native Raghu Sundaram (1961/2-) since 2018. Demographic progression?
Or full circle? Sundaram has just been “kicked upstairs”, and his interim replacement is one J.P. Eggers.
*Cornell and Syracuse house state-affiliated departments, as might either of these two (I don’t know). These would be an exception.
**Not all Tisches are Jewish, though this one was. I doubt Shiawassee County Drain Commissioner Robert Tisch, who horrfied Michigan politicians in 1980, Howard Jarvis-style, was one.
It is…striking.
Particularly the first one. He was moved to commit suicide half-way through his deposition.
The second merely died…in excellent health, at the age of 45.
Go figure. It’s like that old joke about paranoia: what if they really are out to get you?
Not students enrolled full-time. Many of the protesters– and all of the female ones– were safe.
The student deferment is still on the books, by the way. But it is no longer open-ended. It is limited to the current semester, or, in the final year, the end of that school year.
Might the liberal deferment policy of the ’50s and ’60s have had eugenicist roots, at least in part? David Starr Jordan and all that? Has anyone looked into this?
They’re making sure they don’t cross Boss Man.
What is the Trump element in all this?
The low-IQ and devious types argue that the pro-Palestinians are anti-white, that’s why they are against Jews who are seen as white. There may be a contingency of this in the movement, and one could argue it’s blowback for Jews. Jewish whites making nonwhites hate whites but nonwhites seeing Jews as also whites.
But for the most part, this doesn’t seem to be case. Most nonwhites in the pro-Palestinian cause are exceedingly welcoming of whites and Jews who sympathize with their cause. I’ve never heard a Palestinian activist say Hate Whitey. Some Palestinians and anti-Zionist Jews have argued that Zionism is a manifestation of Western Imperialism, but that’s not anti-white. Plenty of anti-imperialists around the world wanted white colonizers gone but were not anti-white. Lee of Singapore wanted independence but had great respect for the British. Vietnamese who fought bitter wars with France and US were for peace and friendship after the wars. They didn’t hold grudges against whites.
Plenty of whites, liberal or conservative, who visited the West Bank and expressed sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians were welcomed as brothers-in-arms. They were not attacked or assaulted for being white. Scott Ritter visited those parts, and he was treated real nice.
Anti-whiteness in the West is almost entirely a Jewish ideological construct. Trace the intellectual origins of anti-whiteness, and it’s usually Jewish. When anti-whiteness is imbibed by whites themselves, it leads to further anti-whiteness, which is the case in the US and the West in general. When nonwhite immigrants come to the West and are met with whites who disparage their own race, history, and culture(and even tear down their own monuments), of course they’re going to hate whites. Whites hate themselves.
Furthermore, a people who hate themselves come across as weak, and people despise weakness by way of self-loathing. Who loves an individual who goes around saying, “I’m shit”?
Whiteness under Jewish influence mainly come in three flavors. (1) self-loathing (2) cultural degeneracy, like celebrating sodomy (3) transferring racial or tribal pride to Jews, thus experiencing ‘national’ pride vicariously. It’s not okay to be white, but it’s awesome to be Jewish. Mike Johnson, bowing his head before BLM but acting the tough guy when it comes to Gaza.
With whiteness now being so pathetic, why would nonwhites respect whites?
Anyway, one reason for the rise of anti-Zionism could be that Zionism is a bipartisan cause. Jews are heavily Democratic and supposedly liberal, but they play both sides and get love from both sides. If Jewish power didn’t vilify the conservatives and the GOP so much, it might not matter so much. But increasingly, the Jews have demonized the GOP and MAGA as white supremacist, racist, xenophobic, and evil in so many ways. Thus, the association of Zionism with the GOP and especially Trump has become more problematic.
In the past, Democrats and Liberals saw the GOP and the Republicans as the wrong party(but not the evil party), but many now do see the American Right that way, especially as whiteness as been vilified by the media and academia.
If indeed Jews insist Trump is literally Hitler or worse than Hitler and MAGA are a bunch of Nazis, what happens when Liberals and Democrats see Trump and Netanyahu working hand in hand as the best of buddies? What happens when Democrats and Liberals are told that Trump is the worst of the worst but Trump does everything for Israel?
And if Jews denounce Trump, why are they mostly silent about his pro-Israel positions? It either means Trump isn’t so bad or that Zionism is in cahoots with Evil Trumpism(and most American Jews are okay with that). And surely, Liberals and Democrats heard that most Israelis prefer Trump to the Democrats. How could that be? Jews say Trump is Hitler but Jews in Israel say Trump is like their goy king.
This was always going to be a problem for Jews. They understood they have to work both parties. If they only support the Democrats and give nothing to the Republicans, the latter might turn anti-Jewish. What would the GOP have to lose when 100% of Jews are anti-conservative?
But if the GOP is baited with the hope, however faint, that more Jews might jump the fence to the Republican side, it goes out of its way to flatter and fete Jews with money and sacred victim points. (Having Jews join the right is also useful as an expunging agent as most of historical antisemitism has been associated with the rightist elements. “Jews in joining us have forgiven us.”)
Also, the GOP option pressured the Democrats to be fully pro-Zionist. Jews could threaten the Democratic Party that they will give more money and support to the GOP if Democrats don’t deliver on Israeli policies.
But the danger of this is that Israel got closely associated with the likes of Dubya and Trump. Dubya was seen as Christian fascist retard. And Trump was painted as the second coming of Hitler. Trump is likely the most vilified candidate and politician in US history. And yet, this much reviled Trump did everything for Israel.
Something had to crack inside the liberal mind. Not only was Trump close to Netanyahu but so are all the big Democrats with the Israeli strongman, notwithstanding some criticism of him by performative Democrats. If Trump is evil Hitler but is shaking hands with Netanyahu, who also happens to be on close terms with Democrat politicians, what is going on?
Inadvertently and unintentionally, Trump may have turned out to be the monkey wrench thrown into the machinations of Jewish power. Jews thrashed him, and he hugged Israel. The man most vilified by Jews did so much for Israel.
This was foolish on the part of Jews. Trump’s America First rhetoric was mostly showbiz. In office, he was going to work with the deep state and bend over backwards for Jews. After 4 or 8 yrs, he would have been gone and forgotten. But by making him out to be the worst of the worst while also pressuring him to do favors for Israel, Jews ended up associating Trumpism with Zionism.
Sure, if the Capitol is.
There’s been speculation about outsiders at the protests but the MSM is ignoring that story for the most part.
NYT found a 63-year old woman at one protest but apparently she was simply a sympathizer.
WSJ found a few protesters were being paid and by organizations linked to Soros and a Rockefeller fund.
They were all anti White WHORES who sold out their own kind (the White artist at least.) However, as much as I hate these cockroaches as people I do love 1980s music.
Cue: Atlantic City by Bruce Cucksteen
Btw, comparing Apartheid South Africa to muh Israel is like comparing a BB gun to an atomic bomb but yet these whores are silent.🤫
74, O00 Whites slaughtered in S. Africa fro 1994-2014
Iraq in 1991 was the Pentagon’s response to the fallout to its own Vietnam debacle. It was perfectly executed, and credibility was restored.
Iraq II was the neocons urinating on Americans, while drunk and high.
Back in the days when I was a young student, idealistic students were protesting things like apartheid in South Africa and the Vietnam war. They may not have been to either place, but they were damned sure they didn’t want to be sent there either.
Now it is the massacre of the Palestinians in Gaza that is the subject of protest. It is a re-enactment of the Old Testament where the people of Israel took over the Jordan valley and the coast of the east end of the Mediterranean by slaughtering the indigenous inhabitants and leveling their cities.
That was the way they did things in those days. Remember that when King Herod heard of the birth of a king of the Jews, he ordered the slaughter of all male children under the age of 2. Stands to reason. That was the time-honored way they did things in Egypt too in the time of Moses.
The problem with the Gaza war is that one gets the impression that the Israeli troops are pretty valient when you put them up against women and children, but somehow they can’t find the Hamas fighters who are hiding in caves and tunnels and apparently only come out at night to count the dead and steal all the food rations and medical supplies from the civilian population. (One solution would be to lace the food drops with laxatives.)
It is all a public relations problem. The Israelis ought to take along a few embedded reporters, perhaps from Fox News and CNN, to show that the massacres of women and children are perfectly justified, considering that the men are all hiding. If you can’t get the men, just make reproduction impossible and you will get the same end result eventually. Kill off the women and children, and castrate the men and carry them off into slavery. Job done.
And, today at MIT, they’re really working the anticapitalist commie angle.
Their occasional “call to prayer” ritual, at MIT, seems very very strange, since Islam is incompatible with modern civilization, as we’ve all seen demonstrated time and again.
It’s like watching native Americans dancing “the ghost dance” around the lunar landing module at Tranquility Base, their space suits made of buffalo skins and eagle feathers.
On paper, it should be funny, but it’s just both sad and strange:
https://www.youtube.com/live/Fk8RTyHWkv8?si=I76SBGBFw3rP-mRi
We’re now being governed by whim.
Warmongering lying creeps, all of them.
Especially Churchill. Bloodthirsty bastard.
The Arab bosses in Gaza have earned and deserve what’s happening to them.
The Arab bosses in Gaza have earned and deserve what’s happening to them. And there are no war crimes.
There is no genocide and there is no ‘cleansing’.
Isn’t that the third weapons factory fire? So beyond carelessness, it’s enemy action (for those of you who count Russia as an enemy).
Agree totally. The Man Who Noticed hasn’t got around yet to noticing that epochal bill, but we did get an an unbelievably disingenuous post the other week about how “HEY! Jews weren’t a significant part of the progressive movement 130 years ago!! SEE! SEE!”…the only possible point of which was to feebly deflect from what’s obviously the real concern, current inordinate Jewish power.
Similarly, in six months he hasn’t had a word of substance to say about (much less felt moved to criticize) Israel’s systematic campaign of ethnic cleansing and truly despicable war crimes against 40,000 murdered innocent civilians and counting, made possible only with continual and extravagant supplies of American weapons, equipment, money and political cover.
Instead there was one “hey, what’s going on over there, tell me what you think because I’m not saying a word” piece, or we get these occasional meandering items that carefully look at the periphery of the issue rather than consider the motivation for the dissent, i.e. disgust at America providing Israel indispensable aide to pursue something meeting the legal definition of genocide.
When I look at these students protesting, despite having to know they’re going against the whole weight of institutional power, I think that say what we will about the left, at least they often display the courage of their convictions. I remember also thinking that 15 years ago when I was reading a book called Weatherman published in 1970 about the student protests of that time. It was describing these communist college kids heading to the site of a protest in a school bus, each of them having nothing but a helmet, a few peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, and the name and number of the lawyer who’d handle their bail once they were arrested. In that case I was contemptuous of their cause, but it was impossible to not feel some admiration for their personal courage and fidelity to their principles.
How on earth would you know whether or not Mark G to those long ago wars?
A strange comment.
Oh, that poor kid at the stairs. No one’s even interested in buggering that flat ass.
https://abc7chicago.com/columbia-university-protests-nypd-officers-gun-discharged-at-hamilton-hall-during-operation-to-remove-encampment-students/14761546/#:~:text=Between%20Columbia%20and%20City%20College,and%20should%20not%20be%20there.
“Between Columbia and City College New York alone, 282 people were arrested, and police say 47% weren’t affiliated with these schools.”
Maybe the police were lying or mistaken. But the incentives lean towards the 47% not counting all non-affiliated people.
Are you saying 19 year olds who disagree with you politically should be castrated and carried off into slavery?
A couple of hand grenades could have done so much good.
Margret Mead, a student of (((Franz “blank slate” Boaz))), was president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) in 1975. They publish _Science_ which I started getting a little later in the 1970s and it was by then plenty political.
For example it published the bogus on its face TTAPS “nuclear winter” paper in late 1983, which was per (((Carl Sagan,))) the S in TTAPS and company, falsified after Sadam set fire to all those Kuwaiti oil fields.
(The paper had many problems starting with it using a one dimensional computer model of the atmosphere, there were no winds, no ocean etc. At the time it was credibly claimed such models were prone to “tipping over” and outputting really bogus results. As I recall there were also problems with the sizes of soot they used, which were … uncited, maybe? Perhaps other things I’ve now forgotten.)
Anon said,
Another theory was that Israel was getting to be too risky, so they would move to the historical Pale, thus the Ukraine war. If that ever was the plan, it doesn’t seem to be happening.
Multiple theories about the October 7th attacks take for granted that Israel stood down its defenses but did not expect Hamas, which Israel created to be a living straw man and still funded until recently, to be so effective.
Whether any of this is true, all three ideas have in common that Jews have more power than they can handle, and their plans are going sideways, forcing clumsy corrections, which themselves generate further “anti-Semitism.” And that’s interesting, because that’s the golem myth, and the central pattern of historical Jewish disaster. Pride and tunnel vision lock them into an avoidable death spiral.
That said, turning Gaza into Singapore would be an objective good except for, you know, the murder. I thought they were going to out-compete the 1-lane Suez canal.
I Hate Winston Churchill
https://youtube.com/shorts/_kj_PYLFod4?si=ahcD2eYFtOFu0S1q
Why are you now hitting yourself, Greta? Don’t ask how I know, I just do.
The modal practice for college-bound youths during the period running from 1948 to 1964 was to complete the degree, then enlist. NB, the Statistical Abstract ca. 1971 published data on the service history of those born from the beginning of 1930 to the end of 1938. Around 65% had some sort of military service. About 2/3 of the remainder were disqualified. A disqualification could be contingent (I-Y) or categorical (IV-F). About 12% of the men in those cohorts were excused from service for some other reason. NB, the disqualifications were for medical / psychological / social reasons, so they weren’t keeping the fittest out of harm’s way.
Follow-up to this, he’s talking about this:
https://virtualjerusalem.com/does-a-good-distance-make-bad-neighbors-better/
Sailer’s book is called Noticing.
Has he noticed Jews are leading the way to destroy the First Amendment.
Will he call out on this?
Or does his strategy require us to remain silent in hopes of appeasing wealthy Jewish donors?
Delaware Dave Weigel is the same hack propagandist who claims he’s a “liberal libertarian” who, when he joined the communist Journolist in 2008 and made plans with other lefties to get Obama elected actually made it his personal communist mission to attack Sarah Palin.
And then Delaware Dave announced he voted for Obama only because Joe Biden was from Delaware like him.
lol. Shut up, Jeffrey Goldberg, you war warmongering war criminal and traitor.
P.S. Israel lost to Hamas. How does that make you feel, IDF soldier?
My alma mater had one up too in 1985, it was quite the scene. But apartheid South Africa was an elite-approved cause celebre, so they were left alone. At the time, Pretoria and Tel Aviv had some pretty tight security links, and I think they collaborated on testing nukes somewhere in the Indian Ocean. But I didn’t hear a peep about that from the shantytowners!
OT:
For Washington this is great news. For them, the more enemies the better:
What? This is a huge positive. For once Israel has to answer for what it does in the land of its main benefactor. Your tax dollars, and mine, pay for their savagery.
This is the most exhilarating protest I’ve ever witnessed in the U.S.–on the heels of the most awful and low IQ protests ever, the 2020 shitshow that was fully sanctioned by the state, the media, corporate America and academia. That was not a brave protest–this one is. The dumb take is to conflate the 2 campaigns as identical.
“The Arab bosses in Gaza have earned and deserve what’s happening to them. ”
How about everyday Gazans, especially the elderly and children? Do you support them being liquidated?
“They went one better, capturing august, staid mainstream organs of information production. Nature, Science, and PNAS are prominent examples that come immediately to mind.”
More like you disagree with their robust scientific conclusions, so the next “logical” step on your part is to claim they are inherently biased. Therefore, you are able to hastily dismiss them as being illegitimate.
What’s walking distance?
They’re not being liquidated. And there is no indication that they object to Hamas bosses and their program. Their welfare is primarily the responsibility of Hamas. Hamas isn’t interested in anything so mundane.
Interesting comment on the weird left-right realignment on Israeli/Anti-Semitism.
OT — The adults are in charge.
I think your people would stop committing war crimes if they were simply made to pay their own bills and fight their own battles.
End all US aid to Israel!
SPLC ACTION FUND OPPOSES HR 6090, THE ANTISEMITISM AWARENESS ACT
https://www.splcactionfund.org/press-center/splc-action-fund-opposes-hr-6090-antisemitism-awareness-act
If I were Brian Knowles, the lawyer representing both of the recently and mysteriously dead Boeing whistleblowers, I’d up my own life insurance policy and “lay low” in some other hemisphere.
Better yet, some other planet . . .
It is for non-students. U.C. enjoys a special status under the California Constitution. Berkeley, e.g., has a conspicuously posted notice (or at least did when I was there around ’09) that permission to be on the campus is at the sufferance of the administration. Here’s how it works in practice: you’re visiting one of the many libraries on campus, you have some trivial disagreement with a clerk, and the campus police are called. You’re asked to show I.D (itself a violation of the Terry rule) in order to check for warrants. If none, you’re then asked whether you’re a student or employee. If neither, you’re told you have to leave because the clerk wants you to, the officer being entirely unintetested in the underlying facts. The clerk, of course, will embellish and report that he/she is “scared.” Sometimes the ejection is only for the day.
The internet is saying Mr Dean died of a bacterial MRSA infection.
“not a traditional campus” You mean a campus based on the campus Founding Father President Thomas Jefferson first designed for the University of Virginia? Seemed to make so much sense near the 18 naughts, didn’t it?
https://www.rt.com/news/596964-houthis-yemen-us-students-gaza/
An obtuse reply.
I suspected that Mark G would have gone along like most Republicans with each war as it was mongered, and asked him. I accept his answer as truthful and thanked him before reading yours.
NYU is #2 among “Private Universities Ranked By Jewish Population, according to Ivy Coach.
Columbia is #14.
My best, long-time college friend was from here in Fairfield County, Connecticut, where I live now.
(In fact, I live here because of him. He linked me to my first job here at his bank in Westport, thirty years ago. I packed my stuff in my Mazda RX-7 and drove here and never looked back. I did not intend to stay long, but I kept getting promoted!)
My Connecticut friend called New York University “NYJew.” His mother was Jewish, and his family lived in Westport, Connecticut, so he wasn’t being “Nazi” or anything. He was just stating was everyone fucking knew here then and should know now = New York University is NYJew.
No wonder its “campus” is more free from this bullshit — dominated by Israeli-“American” police power.
Also, no wonder that school has properties more proper to Manhattan! Steve attributes this to brilliance or something, but it is simply necessity. Think: How easy is it to have a “quad” in Manhattan? Not so much, right. So, it isn’t brilliance so much as necessity that creates a distinctly different campus.
The better question, coming from this exurban hick is why in hell even go to a college in fucking Manhattan in God-forsaken Jew York City? Some of us never would, would never, ever aspire to it.
Interesting observation.
A-effing-men! Ukrainian’s too. Twats one and all…
NYU had a traditional campus designed by Stanford White, no less, in the West Bronx. The Jay Gould Memorial Library is one of the most beautiful buildings in America despite being a little worse for the wear. The stunning building is now largely empty as it was not properly maintained for decades. The Bronx campus was NYU’s half hearted attempt to build a grand traditional American style college campus that was never fully realized. Although what was realized is magnificent. The campus also has a large collection of Brutalist buildings by Marcel Breuer built in his prime in the late Fifties and early Sixties that are impressive, at least to me.
https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-news-nyu-library-fire-bombed-loss/103272400/
https://rozsixties.unl.edu/items/show/774
The brutalist campus additions seem to architecturally foretell the eventual collapse of the Bronx Campus by the close of the Sixties from student unrest of the anti-war and Black Power variety. The Jay Gould Memorial Library was fire bombed in 1969. The catastrophic decline of The Bronx and the financial condition of NYU caused the school to sell the campus to Bronx Community College in 1973. So ironically, NYU lacks a traditional campus for today’s protests in part because of the protests and fire bombings of the Sixties.
The old NYU Campus is on an attractive site on a cliff face overlooking the Hudson River. The Hudson River side of the Gould Library is the colonnaded statuary known as Hall of Fame For Great Americans an endearing and overly earnest exercise of Americana civic nationalism. I love it. The Hall of Fame For Great Americans ran out of funds before the last four admitted Great Americans could have busts built in their honor. The last Great American name etched in the pantheon is Andrew Carnegie. If only Carnegie has left some endowment of a sort with enough funds to build his bust. The busts of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were only removed from the Hall of Fame of Great Americans in 2017 by the edict of Governor Cuomo in response to the Charlottesville civil unrest. I doubt that the statues were still in the colonnade as late as 2017 due to Confederate sympathies among the local Dominican population, but because sometimes benign neglect is better than antagonistic attention.
If you visit on a late Sunday afternoon in the summertime, you basically have a partially neoclassical campus designed by Stanford White to yourself, as the local Bronx neighbors don’t seem particularly very interested. It kind of feels like Omega Man walking through the ruins of the once noble, awe inspiring visions of a decidedly different late 19th Century America.
It is both sad and beautiful. Even Marcel Breuer’s concrete Brutalism manages to be stunning in the dying light of the golden sunset over the Hudson. Still, probably a good idea to get on the subway before it gets too dark.
Clarification, the former NYU Bronx Campus is on the Harlem River not the Hudson, but in my memory, it was on the Hudson if that makes any sense. By any measure, it is close enough to be considered Hudson River Adjacent in real estate speak.
Shhhhh, when the Jews hear Free Palestine, they think they’re getting a bargain!
“What are the odds that Boeing assassinated these whistleblowers? 20%? 50%? 70%?”
Close enough to 0% that I am not going to waste time coming up with a more precise estimate.
Terrorist-loving ‘students’ fighting against degenerate woke-captured colleges. As someone here wrote, this is Iran vs Iraq, or Hitler vs Stalin. May they both lose.
“…Their welfare is primarily the responsibility of Hamas. …”
Their welfare has been the responsibility of Israel since they conquered the place in 1967. Hamas is only in power because of Israel’s complete abdication of their responsibility to provide decent rule to the lands they conquered.
Phag
I just want to say that I come back here between pleasurable moments at home… and all I see is the same losers like me commenting here.
What is one to think, Steeeeve?
I keep hoping to find others, but instead I see that some I used to read are now gone. This includes female commenters. I enjoy female commenters because they are so few and because they represent fully half or more of humanity.
And I love females.
So, commenters, and maybe readers as well, are going away. Ron Unz himself has said as much. Why?
The administration had already lost their minds or such a thing wouldn’t have been tolerated.
The student deferment was not open ended. You had to make satisfactory progress toward a degree every academic year. Failure to do so meant losing the deferment and being subject to the draft. After four years the deferment was used up, whether you graduated or not.
The registrar at my school failed to send in five hours of my credit; the first I knew of it was receiving a letter from my draft board ordering me to report for my physical. I contacted them and found out about the missing credits. I rushed over to the registrar’s office and firmly requested him to do his job. Two years later I dropped my deferment, with my lottery number 10 higher than the draft was taking that year. New Year’s Eve was a double celebration for me, sitting on the floor at a conference next to the girl to whom I would be engaged in another year.
Two friends on my dorm floor failed enough engineering classes that they were drafted. Both were dead in Nam within a year. All of the military branches had recruiting offices across the street from the campus. Better three years in the Navy or Air Force than two years in the Army and a year’s service in the jungle.
“Columbia crackdown led by university prof doubling as NYPD spook”
Way wait. The Columbia professor is a spook?
Seriously?
If they say so, cause she doesn’t really fit the profile.
Google it.
And what is that exactly?
The old NYU Campus is on an attractive site on a cliff face overlooking the Hudson River. The Hudson River side of the Gould Library is the colonnaded statuary known as Hall of Fame For Great Americans an endearing and overly earnest exercise of Americana civic nationalism.
Harlem River, as elsewhere stated. In any event, visiting the Hall of Fame is a bit of a crapshoot. Although ostensibly open to visitors during designated hours, the guard on duty at the Community College’s gate won’t always admit visitors even during those hours. I guess it depends on the particular guard on duty and/or their mood at the time.
I doubt that the statues [Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee] were still in the colonnade as late as 2017 due to Confederate sympathies among the local Dominican population, but because sometimes benign neglect is better than antagonistic attention.
Then again, despite their often-dark skin Dominicans don’t necessarily see eye to eye with blacks.
“ There is no genocide and there is no ‘cleansing.’”
Related:
OT — Friends, racism is wrong, but sometimes it’s also hilarious. Anon said,
STARBUCKS IS COLLAPSING
>Starbucks got a poojeet CEO
>It’s been failing ever since, worst quarter earnings ever
>CEO goes on live TV trying to reassure investors
>[sir]s it up so bad it goes down 5% while he’s talking
What are the implications of millions of white women no longer being able to get their daily pumpkin spice double double frappe chai mocha venti foppy floppy?
I agree- never seen or heard Howard Stern fellate a man like that in 40 years.
Dominicans had the wherewithal to actualize a real-life dia de la cuerda (the term comes from them). And there’s the satellite photos.
Do they kill the lawyer? Who was James Montgomery’s lawyer? Who was Seth Rich’s? Who was Antonio Scalia’s? I don’t think they kill the lawyer. That one scene from Breaking Bad (well then why threaten me, why not just shoot him?) relevant here (I only know it because they played it on NPR).
Your confusion is understandable. Neither the Harlem nor the East is a river; they are tidal straits. As are the Arthur Kill and the Kill van Kull.
The state museum in Albany claims the Hudson is a fjord to the south of that city. Whether that disqualifies it as a river, you’d have to ask a geographer, or geologist, or toponymist, or whatever.
Marble Hill is a little piece of Manhattan now on the mainland. The Harlem was rerouted in the 1890s, performing a kind of bris on the island.
In some ways, though she acts white– very white:
She shares (one) surname with the deputy mayor who just resigned. His problem wasn’t with her personally, but with the way she was chosen. Her husband is a much older man with the same name, which must be common thereabouts:
However, she appears to be the local version of King Charles…
A country that most of my life has been famous for internecine warfare now has welcome packets for newcomers in 10 languages:
https://www.derrystrabane.com/community/new-resident-welcome-packs
They must be really hurting for people. (After killing lots of them!)
Its visitor page has a girlie feel to it. Too much pink. Not sure if that is some sort of signal.
https://www.visitderry.com/
So you are contending that those civilians in Gaza who have been killed have not been killed? Are they just resting?
Do you imagine that bombs and surface to air missiles are used for the purpose of NOT killing people?
How many civilians have been killed by the IDF in Gaza? Can you hazard a guess? Is it zero?
On another thread I provided you with evidence of Israeli government officials calling for that very thing – what we have come to know as “ethnic cleansing”, i.e. the policy of “you f**kers can all just clear out of this place where you live – we don’t care where.”
An Israeli think tank with ties to the current government, the Misgav Institute, released a report advocating ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
https://theintercept.com/2023/10/25/israel-hamas-opportunity/
Actually they called it “Evacuation”. Maybe they could even call it “Evacuation to the West”. That’d be ironic, wouldn’t it?
You are trafficking in obvious lies, Art, and everyone here knows it too.
They’re courses of study are mostly BS. They get graded on how well they conform ideologically to the professor’s politics.
Free Palestine
Free America
One Struggle
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-chinese-are-not-stupid-in-fact-your-dad-is-stupid/
Sounds as though you voted for her to win in her election. With or without a river or fjord or tidal strait.
In contrast, here’s famed Balboa Island in Newport Beach.
Btw, I was there a week ago, and I thought, “why are there so many fat little super sketch-looking Latino’s wandering around at Playland?”
These folks radiated loseritis, and they’re wandering around an area that charges $8 for a corn dog!
What the fuck are going to do with so many of Latin Amrica’s Oompa Loompas? At least normal Oompa Loompas had a marketable shill set! The last low end loser jobs they could possibly scrounge are rapidly being taken up by A.I.!
What are these dumb non-English speaking wee middle-aged fuckers going to DO here?
They’re gonna endure a lot of pain and suffering they wouldn’t have if they had stayed put.
The United States is a laughing stock in every country where it’s not illegal to notice who runs our own country. Luckily, we’re also not allowed to know what is said in these other countries.
Imagine if, say, India, was run by Albanians. And India’s entire foreign policy was calculated to support Albania’s interests instead of its own. And if everyone in India was prohibited from saying that this was weird.
Hey look, everybody — it’s Frankenstein!
Okay, okay sorry… I meant, it’s Frankenstein’s monster.
“the former NYU Bronx Campus is on the Harlem River not the Hudson, but in my memory, it was on the Hudson if that makes any sense.”
Hey, by those criteria, maybe Elie Wiesel’s Holocaust happened on the Hudson, too.
What are these dumb non-English speaking wee middle-aged fuckers going to DO here?
) Quadruple their carbon footprint.
) Consume, and keep the Landfill Capitalists happy.
) Otherwise fill the ecosystem and leave less for the posterity of those who invested in, and built, the country.
I appreciate these occasional public policy recommendations you write. In this case, though, I am much less familiar with academia than you are so it is not necessarily clear to what problem is being solved by each policy recommendation. I see that disincentivizing “activist” pseudo-professors and useless professional students is part of the rationale, but it is not always clear to me how these policies would achieve that. Would you mind briefly describing why you recommend these policies?
These data are not correct.
One can learn. I supported most of those wars. The war in the Balkans started my questioning. Nothing wrong with getting wisdom.
How about “Master Blaster” by Stevie Wonder. “…peace has come to Zimbabwe…”. It is to cry. (Otherwise it’s a great tune).
Get your act together AD: If they are getting what they deserve, by being irredeemably barbaric, then genocide is called for. Ask the Mexica and the Sioux.
True but the still misses the pint about why these students protests re not tolerated: Jews are doing the genocide being protested. And Jews are triple sacred cows. They are easily The Most Equal animals on the Orwellian, Oceanian farm.
And yet, we fund Israel to the tune of billions and our reps says we can’t criticize them.
Your “idea” has been circulating around the web, is it one of the talking points you guys get? Who cares about a conflict thousands of miles away? Indeed, so lets stop funding it, and lets stop groveling to a small, foreign country.
I profoundly disagree with you on many points, but you seem truly principled in your belief in Jeffersonian negative liberty.
Your friends, however, are just belligerent midwits. It doesn’t take much for normiecons to cheer for a fight, as it did not take much for their fathers. These are the guys who had their chance with Pat Buchanan or Ross Perot, but they still opted for Bush.
Wave a red flag, appeal to their vanity, greed, or fear, and voila, a war for freedom! We can blame duplicious elites or scheming diasporas only so far, at some point the majority rubes bear guilt. That Americans aren’t supporting the recent war is more due to their anxiety about their status at home in a much browner and gayer America.
30 years ago, these guys would have loved Biden, even if disagreeing with him on certain policies, particularly if Biden wasn’t running on the gay and id stuff. Biden was always a p.o.s., but his sleazy fibbing shares similarities with Reagan, more than people would like to admit.
Fun fact: (Well, maybe not “fun”) Another building that’s part of the NYU campus, a stone’s throw, or two, from both Tisch and Stern–one block west of the former and one block north of the latter, is the Brown Building, once known as the Asch Building, the site of the infamous Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire of 1911. It’s the actual building–the structure survived the inferno and was renovated. The building itself was very well constructed.
The fire was caused due to unsafe conditions within the factory, which was a craphole sweatshop owned by, as Wikipedia puts it, “Russian immigrants” (((LOL))) Max Blanck and Isaac Harris.
There is no genocide and there is no cleansing.
Prediction:
Astroturfed country song comes out. Elements of country and dirty south genres, Toby Keith’s GWOT era songs and Okie from Muskogee themes.
Plays on Fox News constantly. The hosts on the various shows play it up. Boomer grannies play it to prove how hip, and totally not old, they are.
Some articles on that theme.
As Eurovision approaches: where are all the protest singers?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/artsandculture/arid-41387863.html
Bono and Bob Geldof are specifically called out for their silence.
(this one is from 2019)
76 Musicians Stand for Justice for Palestinians
https://visualizingpalestine.medium.com/76-musicians-stand-for-justice-for-palestinians-1faff584a1bd
Musicians withdraw from SXSW Festival over Gaza, inclusion of military and “war profiteers”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/03/09/wqsn-m09.html
https://www.babystepmagazine.com/single-post/thousands-of-musicians-sign-letter-demanding-ceasefire-in-gaza
Some legal discussion here.
https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/23484/universities-public-area-or-private-area-in-u-s
The US Army War College and Defense Language Institute (mentioned in the comments) are interesting examples.
This seems the most relevant point.
I never said there was a genocide.
Nor did I ever say there was ethnic cleansing. I said it looked like Israel is planning on doing something that looks suspiciously like ethnic cleansing. I cited Israeli government officials and connected think-tank wonks (i.e. former government officials) talking about it. Some Knesset members have said that Europe and America and – well, anyone but Israel – should accept Palestinian migrants. Why do you think that government officials talk about policies, Art? Just for laughs? They talk about policies to trial-balloon them, to normalize them, to prepare the ground for them.
And now, as part of the recently passed fund-every-war military aid package, Congress has appropriated money specifically to facilitate immigration from middle-east trouble spots. What middle east trouble spot is in the News right now? Funny coincidence, huh? Looks to me like Israel is trying to offload their people problem on us.
I cited evidence for my contention. You offered nothing but the opinions of an anonymous, petulant, non-entity librarian who thinks he knows everything and clearly doesn’t.
You are a pathetic clown. The people you expend your rhetorical capital on wouldn’t give you the time of day.
LOL. I actually had CNBC on when this interview came on. I was riveted–I didn’t believe it at first.
If you’re one on one with Jim Freakin’ Cramer, and HE’S the one that sounds like he has a clue, you know you are in deep vindaloo, saaar!
“They’re not being liquidated. “
This is straight up lying in your part.
“And there is no indication that they object to Hamas bosses and their program.”
Even children? Citations please. Regardless, it would appear you have no qualms about them and the elderly being taken out by drones or shot dead.
“Hamas isn’t interested in anything so mundane.”
And you like this for certain how?
Hardly. “Gender rights issues” was brought up as a criticism. It is, however, a concept limited to the pinkest corners of the white man’s world. Inasmuch as she opposes the traditional practices of her relatives, she’s “acting white”.
This articles states 32 total, but does not give deposition status.
https://www.deccanherald.com/business/companies/the-curious-case-of-boeing-whistleblowers-dying-3006364
This article states at least 10.
https://nypost.com/2024/05/04/us-news/boeing-faces-10-more-whistleblowers-after-two-die/
This is the most I see on depositions. It appears to only be focused on the Barnett case.
https://fortune.com/2024/03/16/boeing-whistleblower-found-dead-john-barnett-737-max/
It makes you wonder about groups like VDare and others who hire Steve to speak and write for them. I don’t think Steve has any real ideology or instincts to preserve America, but the groups that hire him often claim to want to preserve and defend White Americans and their nation and culture. When these groups and their talking heads and writers outright refuse to recognize, name or fight their main enemy, and actually court those who are destroying the people and things they claim to defend, instead, it’s pretty obvious that there isn’t much substance to their stances, and they are unlikely to win. Most are more likely to promote and praise their enemies, while censoring and showing disdain for the people they claim to represent. If they aren’t controlled opposition and gatekeepers, they aren’t much better.
I see your point, and agree with it. But I still can’t view the recent spectacle on American university campuses as a positive – once august American institutions now reduced to nothing but an arena for competing foreign interests.
Iraq in 1991 was an attempt to weaken an opponent to Zionism.
Good post. Thank you.
Thank you, Hunsdon.
But I think you understate what is going on over there. People are not just “being killed.” They are being murdered. They are being subject to a campaign of ethnic cleansing. They have been victimized by a six-month and ongoing massive bombing campaign to which they have no defense.
Don’t have to imagine. India was run by British for two centuries. And India’s entire foreign policy was calculated to support Britain’s interests instead of its own. But everyone in India was not prohibited from saying that this was weird (mostly). In fact, one guy became famous and even influenced other troublemakers like MLK Jr. and Nelson Mandela.
Before this fire two Russian nationals were arrested in Germany as accused saboteurs. We had a fire recently at our 155mm shell plant. Supposedly this Diehl one was like the Israeli cyberattack on Iran, instructing a machine to go too fast.
And consistent success.
OT — Latest Simplicius — UK think tank confirms Russia is light years ahead of us and we should try to catch up. Are the British Putin stooges?
https://archive.is/PKw7j
Fellate is the right word as Stern, in his dotage, has been transformed into an old Jew hag.
Compared to the present law, it is. Of course, you could say the standby status of the past fifty years is a deferment of sorts, for everyone. Last year, the young YouTube map aggregator Zimbax was drafted into the Estonian army, and posted some post-basic videos of grunt life in the woods. My much older half-brother was drafted in 1966, and these vignettes hit home more than anything else in the last half-century.
Years ago at a school in Finland, I was sweet on a girl who was off-limits because everyone knew her boyfriend was in the army. He was almost certainly drafted, though I’d had no idea at the time. There were a couple of local guys there, one with an American father, one with a Canadian, who held onto those citizenships to avoid the Finnish draft. The Canadian had visited that country once, the American never the US, despite pushing thirty at the time.
That could be finessed. The financial writer Andrew Tobias in his first book counseled majoring in sociology because it was easy and could be navigated with hot air.
The Carter-era Coast Guard was thick with the kind of man who was smart enough for college, but unfit for other reasons. It was hard to get into a few years earlier. Even I, too young for the active draft, was told to wait six months, though a spot opened up earlier.
Is he related to George Weigel, who is from nearby Baltimore?
Did he vote for Krišjānis Kariņš as well?
The Prime Minister of Georgia says he has no comment on the crackdown on students in NYC but would like it if the US quit trying to overthrow the elected government of his country:
China building flying car.
100% agree about the rubes being responsible.
However, the kids aren’t buying it. Crazy but true. I know because I have a couple in that age bracket. I can’t say what’s changed (hell, they hardly ever listen to me), but it’s very different from a generation ago.
You can’t take anything in regime media at face value anymore. There is no consensus. It’s different from anything I’ve ever seen in this country in my life.
Very true.
IIRC, something like 20 of the last 22 Bureau of Labor statistics reports wrt job growth have been “adjusted” downwards later on. But the MSM, aka Pravda, dutifully reports the good news.
We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying.
– Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I think the Caitlin Clark phenomenon has given them an alternate venue for their entertainment dollar.
A couple steps in front of you, apparently. I believe the argument would go that these protests sure made a great excuse to pass some really freedom-curtailing legislation.
These people are sick.
Collective punishment is forbidden by the Geneva Convention and they know it.
They derive sick, sadistic pleasure from lying and not getting called out for it, even though everyone knows they are lying.
NYU sold its traditional campus in the Bronx in 1973 and moved to Greenwich Village. Its campus wasn’t in the South Bronx, so it probably seemed like a gamble at the time because lower Manhattan wasn’t the gleaming romantic comedy movie set that it is now. Not all that many other colleges at the time got new campuses, although some like Pepperdine moved from downtown to Malibu. NYU might be unique in having moved downtown, which paid off bigly for NYU in this century.
‘What are they doing here ?’
1/. Increasing the competition for low end labor – thus directly transferring wealth from the poor to the rich.
2/. A potential Democrat Party vote bank in the making – thus ensuring in the future a one party state USA with permanent Biden/Pelosi/Hillary/Obama style politics.
3/. Acting as an truly enormous fiscal and tax liability – thereby ensuring the pauperization of the American middle class, a sky rocketing external and internal debt, low economic growth, and likely a repeat of the 2008 economic disaster.
4/. In the aggregate, a marked diminution of the national American IQ level – at the same time that China is going from strength to strength in hi tech.
5/. More criminality, violence, drug dealing etc.
“74,000 Whites slaughtered in S. Africa fro 1994-2014”
Well yes, but how many had a funky, catchy name like Steve Biko?
Interesting tactical decision. The SPLC’s rationale is that everyone — not just Jews — should be privileged over white people. That’s mighty big of the Jews to advocate for including everyone in the “take from Whitey” coalition. They are true humanitarians. Our “Greatest Ally,” for sure.
Thanks to the Joos of Unz (your spelling, not mine), and joos just like them all around the world, no Human will ever look at a Joo the same way ever again.
But I guess that’s what you’ve been praying for.
For some — well maybe a small scattering, anyway — this might actually illustrate the seriousness of this whole madhouse….
I actually agree with Corvinus.
Those are perfect examples of the type of feel-good interventions that we should do: i.e., over in 72 hours and guaranteed to succeed militarily. Taking on Russia and China in a new Cold War — but this time when they have more GDP than us — not so much.
It’s probably as simple as competition from Twitter/X. Steve is on X, competing with his own commentary here. Plus, his M.O. on both platforms is to take no position on anything. So he’s basically, at most, a gateway to more decisive commentators that are willing to set forth a position that people can either agree with, or oppose.
NYU did not move downtown, it was founded and was always based in Greenwich Village since the 1830s. NYU established and half built a more traditional Stanford White designed grand American campus in the West Bronx on the Harlem River beginning in the 1890s. The Bronx Campus was always secondary to the Greenwich Village Campus (campus in quotes) and never met its true potential, especially after the social unrest of the Sixties which devastated the Bronx based campus and caused the fiscally strapped, and at the time, commuter focused NYU to retreat back to The Village. NYU lost its potentially grand traditional campus, but solidified its Village bona fides that would eventually define its global brand. Even in 1973, The Village was a better pick than University Heights in The Bronx.
So Steve is the marijuana to Hypnotoad’s cocaine? OK!
While most of these proposals strike me as meritorious, I chiefly like the sheer ‘get off my lawn’ ness of this list.
“Even in 1973, The Village was a better pick than University Heights in The Bronx.”
To get a good idea of Village NYU in the Sixties, check out the opening scenes of “Fritz the Cat”.
“James Earl Jones is such a great actor — why does he ALWAYS have to play a black guy?”
Granted I was not a student there in the 60s — not even close — but I did hang out in Washington Square Park as an adventurous kid in the mid 70s, and there was… un certain esprit a la NYU, de naivete.
Ah, Cinema Village… got my MFA there as a teen. In a manner of speaking. Got my lit MFA in McSorley’s.
I never said there was any genocide.
However, what many Israeli government officials have called for looks suspiciously like ethnic cleansing. And now – miraculously – Congress has just appropriated a few billion dollars to relocate refugees from the middle east.
I cited a number of Israeli government officials – highly placed ones too – who have called for what can only be called ethnic cleansing. And a prominent think tank with close ties to the current Netanyahu government issued a white paper calling for that very thing.
I cited sources. You cited…………nothing, but the crotchety mutterings of an obscure non-entity who works as a university librarian (that would be you, Art).
The lack of consensus is a good point. This is not the country that went to war with Iraq. I don’t think that is necessarily a bad thing.
Our elites hope the frat boys represent a future base of support for intervention and aggression. They hope the grift doesn’t end with the boomers.
Fascinating. Finally we see diversity’s effect. Would they so oppose were Big Shoulders Mark still counting the whites?
Do you think we would have wasted decades accomplishing nothing in Iraq and Afghanistan and tried to overthrow the governments of Syria and Iran if not for Israel/Palestine? I see a personal stake.
Uh, did you see Steve’s “What Should Be Done” post, which is an obvious reference to (and a caution against) this idiotic new bill? I guess it was too subtle. I never will understand what, exactly, the angry “Notice the Jews, Steve. NOW!” crowd here want or expect Steve to do. They seem to want him to validate their reductive “all evil stems from Jewish power” obsession, while at the same time denouncing him as a coward and sellout. Why seek validation from someone you consider a coward and sellout? Why not just start following someone like Anglin, who provides the sort of cartoony, myopic commentary this crowd seems to want? Steve is interesting precisely because he recognizes that our current mess stems from a lot of different causes, many of them having nothing to do with the dreaded Jews. Personally, I thought his posts on the New England origins of American leftism were some of his best, showing a historical awareness lacking in much of the commentariat here.
China does not have flying cars.
They also lack clean tap water, which the USA had 80+ years ago.
With the fall of the Soviet Union, Gulf War I was the establishing of a new “greatest threat to Democracy” to keep the MIC churning.
“So, commenters, and maybe readers as well, are going away. Ron Unz himself has said as much. Why?”
Bad commenters drive away good ones. More moderation might help.
This reminds me of the people who thank Jesus for saving them from the tornado after they are pulled from the wreckage. Who sent the tornado in the 1st place?
Now you are goal post moving. Ethnic cleansing is not the same thing as genocide (and Israel is doing neither).
And certainly, Israel has treated its Arab population better than the US treated its Indian population. People who live in glass houses should never throw stones.
Jews in HUGE numbers.
HUGE I tell you. Jews are a lot of things but HUGE in numbers is not one of them.
NYU Greenwich is home to the #1 applied math program in the world.
In the 70’s, protesters took hostage of a supercomputer there and demanded bail ransom for Black Panthers, before a professor disabled and saved the machine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lax
Honest people know the left is not in power. Certainly not any kind of principled left calling for equal justice for all based on universal values. Identity politics is essentially rightism wrapped in progressive rhetoric. Using past victimhood to justify total tribalism in the present, especially notable among Jews and blacks. Identity politics leftism is essentially rightist in (1) encouraging tribalism among certain groups (2) its hierarchy of who deserves more sympathy points. It’s not about equality.
A more principled leftist, like Norman Finkelstein, who reject woke identity politics and calls for equal justice for Palestinians is not in power. He couldn’t even get a job at a second-string university due to the Jewish Lobby.
And notice Antifa, like ISIS, almost never attacked Jewish groups and causes. Who funds them?
The recent ‘Anti-Semitic Awareness Act’ that stifles free speech and penalizes certain political sympathies and sentiments is not the product of the left but Jewish power, and its support from both supposedly leftist Democrats and supposedly rightist Republicans proves that the real power is Jewish and it will trample all over the Constitution to serve its tribal agenda.
It also proved that the so-called Right is no more principled or scrupulous than the so-called Left when it comes to catering to those in power. The Right is not above identity politics in service to the truly powerful.
So anyone who goes on and on about how the Left is anti-free speech and anti-constitutional but looks the other way when the Jewish Lobby and Republican ‘rightists’ pushed through an identity politics bill has lost all credibility.
“And certainly, Israel has treated its Arab population better than the US treated its Indian population. People who live in glass houses should never throw stones.”
How about people whose ancestors lived in glass houses 150 years ago? By this standard no one is entitled to criticize anything that used to be common.
Thanks, dude.
No, I am not. And you are putting words into my mouth. I have never claimed that Israel is committing genocide. Show me the post where I have said that.
And I haven’t said that they are committing ethnic cleansing in Gaza*. I said that it looks like they might be gearing up for it. Israeli officials have been publicly airing the idea.
Is that the standard now? Hey, we’re treating you better than the Indians, what are you complaining about? And given that I am paying for whatever policy Israel is engaged in, I very much do get a vote as far as I’m concerned. You want Americans to stay out of Israel’s business? Fine. I’m cool with that. Then we stop paying for their business. No more aid.
*The West Bank is another matter; With it’s settlement policy, Israel has been engaged in a slow-motion ethnic cleansing there for years.
Thanks for the Village Atheist take. I’ve never heard that one before.
Those Christians…………..such rubes!
Now tell us about Kapparot and the Eruv thread.
Nobody is going to have flying cars. Another term for “flying car” is “crashing car”.
Yes, the Courant Institute. Thanks for the link to the story about Professor Lax. Very interesting. I see that he was counted among the “Martians”, i.e. those Hungarian Jewish brainiacs who were so brilliant that some wag said that they must have come from Mars.
It’s funny to see a CDC 6600 described as a super-computer. Of course it was, in it’s day (1964). It was designed by Seymour Cray and took over the title of “World’s most powerful computer” from the IBM 7030 stretch.
No, their welfare is the responsiblity of Hamas. The territory in question was turned over to an Arab authority in 1994 and the last of the Jewish presence evacuated in 2005.
People die in wars. Which is different from a whole people being liquidated. (And if Hamas wanted to live a quiet life, they should have taken a different course of action). Do try to learn elementary distinctions.
No, it was a successful operation to eject Iraq from a piece of territory they’d seized.
The tornado is a natural part of God’s (good) creation. Some people chose to build a trailer park in, say, Kansas, where tornadoes have been ripping around for Lord knows how long.
So a tornado goes through the trailer park tossing the flimsy structures this way and that, and someone who prayed for deliverance is miraculously spared.
“Thanks, God, for sparing me despite our human folly”
That’s the Augustinian theodicy:
Evil and suffering is the price we pay for free will and original sin. Everything God does is good. If there is some evil or bad quality or event, it is because of an absence of God. Falsehood is an absense of truth, ugliness an absence of beauty etc. So in truth, evil doesn’t positively exist at all, but is merely a deficiency.
That’s not the only theodicy. The debate about evil carries on to this day:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy
As a lawyer you might find it interesting. Perhaps you have your own (or a Jewish) explanation?
The US is fighting a proxy war with Iran (whether it likes it or not). Iran is part of the Axis of the Shitty, along with Russia and N. Korea. If the US doesn’t want Israel as its ally in this war (it should) then fine, stop the aid and then Israel will do as it wants to the Gazans and the Iranians.
At this point the US acts as a brake on Israel (during Dem admins). At some point the interference is not going to be worth it for Israel in relation to the relatively small amount of aid that it gets from the US. Be careful what you ask for , because you just might get it.
Judaism (as usual) provides several (contradictory) answers to the problem of theodicy:
1. God rewards the good and punishes the bad. So if something bad is happening to you, you musta done somethin’ bad. (Most of the Old Testament)
2. God’s will is inscrutable to humans. (Book of Job )
3. Evil perpetrated by humans is a side effect of free will (Maimonides)
4. After the Creation, God contracted himself from this world, leaving space for evil (the Kabbalists).
5. It is pointless to discuss the source of evil. Judaism is a religion of action in this world so the important question is not where evil comes from, but what do YOU do to respond to evil? (Book of Lamentations).
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/a-traditional-jewish-approach-to-the-problem-of-evil/
There is never one Jewish response to anything. There is no Jewish pope. This is why the conspiracy theories of the antisemites are always so ridiculous. A conspiracy implies that you have an agreement and Jews never agree amongst themselves about anything. There are even Jews in those pro-Hamas tent camps.
LOL yeah you keep telling yourself that.
Yes.
But then I might not get to comment here.
D’oh!
My dad worked on a flying car project in the 1930s.
Since my good buddy Jack D only has three comments per hour, I’m stepping in for him. “You are a Man of Unz who hates jooooooooooooooooos! Also, you’re a smelly cockroach.”
I was trying to phrase it mildly.
I think what is going on is an atrocity, a war crime, a crime against humanity. I see us cheering it on, while occasionally saying “Maybe a little slower, Bibi, sir, please?” I look around at a lot of my friends, who, well, obviously I consider decent people, and they’re nodding their heads and saying “Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet” and things like that. F35 airstrikes on civilians? “Oh that’s war.”
Israeli politicians casually referring to Amalek? Boy howdy, that’s not a call for genocide! That’s just a call for Israel to defend itself. Um, by killing all the Amalekites, men, women, children, and livestock. And “Amalakites” is one of those terms that can be applied to anyone. It is now obviously used in reference to Hamas, which means, the Palestinians, which means non-Jews in Gaza.
Apparently my opinion means that I am deeply antisemitic, and antisemitism is the worst form of racism, and racism is the worst crime ever.
I try to hew to the standard that like things should be treated alike. The Bucha Massacre? Per the Kyiv regime, 458 people were killed. The UNHCR says maybe up to 178. This is a massacre, and a war crime, and Putin (or “Putler”) should be held to account. Thirty thousand dead Palestinians? “Eh, it’s war. These things happen.” Sometimes, it’s “Well those numbers are coming from Hamas controlled groups, so we can’t trust those numbers.” My reaction is like Harry Dean Stanton in Alien: “Right.” This is Israel defending itself. What, you don’t believe in the right of self-defense?
I don’t know. Maybe I’m wrong? Maybe I’m blinded by joooooo-hatred? Maybe Jeffrey Sachs, Russell Dobular, Keaton Weiss, Aaron Mate, Kit Klarenberg, Norman Finkelstein (and so many more)—–these guys aren’t really Jewish. Or they’re self-hating Jews. I don’t know. They’re probably secret Amalakites, too. Some kind of “switched at birth” thing, like changelings. A while back Jack D told me they were! And Jack D is a great man, so he must be right. (He didn’t call them Amalakites, but he said they probably wanted to see Israel destroyed.) (Jack, you can dig up my post if you’d like to, I’m probably misrepresenting your comment.)
When antiwar demonstrators blocked roads? Calls for criminal prosecution, since they were endangering lives! There are emergency services vehicles who might be delayed! Lock ’em up, break some heads! When Israeli groups block deliveries of relief supplies to the Palestinians? Crickets. I hear crickets . . . because no one talks about them.
If a tree falls in the forest, and no one hears it, does it make a sound? If a war crime is committed, and no one talks about it, did it happen?
“No, their welfare is the responsiblity of Hamas. The territory in question was turned over to an Arab authority in 1994 and the last of the Jewish presence evacuated in 2005.”
Israel was still in charge and prevented the establishment of an independent state. Leaving the inhabitants stateless.
In order to weaken Iraq, which was seen by Zionist Jews as a significant opponent to the Zionist conquest of Palestine.
Yeah, people die in wars when other people kill them. Palestinian civilians are dying in Gaza because Israel is killing them. What is a seven year old girl in Gaza guilty of, Art? Enlighten us.
Like Jack D, you are attributing things to me I never said.
How would you like it if some air force somewhere was dropping bombs on your library?
And this is primarily because it is in Israel’s interest for the US to be involved in a proxy war with Iran. It is Israel and it’s boosters in the US who ceaselessly urge that the screws be put to Iran.
“whether it likes it or not”? Well, a lot of us don’t like it. I have no beef with that country and I think we should try to normalize relations with them.
I love mannish women! One such lady co-created and changes the diapers of my beautiful children.
But this is the *only type* who poast. So I agree that I value highly the small number of female iStevers. But we really have to be careful to not assume they are normal women.
If anything, we are closer to normal than they are. A normal human female considers mega-poasting bizarre inexplicable behavior. At the same time, she accepts her lack of understanding of the male psyche so does not consider moderate megapoasting of her stud to be aberrant.
You do realize that making that comment makes you one of the ones who wasn’t driven away, right? Which makes you….
Unironically, truer words have never been spoken.
Right back at ya, brother. Israel got what it wanted in the Gaza War and does not know what to do with it. If Netanyahu has a Master Plan, please enlighten us. The Zionists caught the Car. Now what? Perpetual occupation? Ethnic cleansing and building Tel Aviv South? A combination of both?
What if there was another approach to all this? I warned you shortly after October 7th that leveling Gaza might not work out as you expected.
LOL! Now that’s interesting. Cool. Your parents were cool. You really got lucky, man.
I married a girly girl, and she definitely thinks what you and I do here is odd. She can run mathematical circles around you and me, but she relaxes by watching Lifetime movies. (I call them female emotion porn.) We don’t judge each other, and we understand and appreciate our differences.
I am a lucky man.
The USSR collapsed after the Gulf War and probably because the Red Army was demoralized and discredited by its one-sidedness. Remember how much the Western elite loved Gorbachev from the moment he took power.
Israel prevented nothing. The Arab bosses have been offered an independent state on three separate occasions and spurned the offer each time. They were given a de facto state on the Gaza strip. You can see what they accomplished with that.
Israel already existed and had existed for over 40 years at that point. The objection of the occidental powers was (1) Iraq had seized and despoiled a sovereign state and (2) they’d tripled their share of the world’s proven oil reserves. These issues were not that obscure.
Like Jack D, you are attributing things to me I never said.
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No, you just don’t take responsibility for the semantic content of your utterances because your whole shtick is offering random complaints.
Yeah, the US is Israel’s proxy. I don’t like it.
You don’t get it. You may not be interested in Iran but Iran is interested in you. This is the eternal problem of the isolationist. The ostrich approach doesn’t make evil disappear.
You’re just a liar. I’ve never said Israel is engaged in genocide.
But they are murdering people, including women and children – lots of them.
You really are a ridiculous clown, Art. Jack D can defend Israel’s brutalism because they are his people; he at least has a an ethnic interest. What is your interest? They are never going to pat you on the back for your rhetorical water carrying, you know. You’re just a useful goy idiot to them – a chump. You won’t even get a lousy T-shirt.
What a load of horses**t. Iran is no significant threat to me. It is no significant threat to this country. It is far less of a threat than Israel is, to be honest.
I get it. I get what you’re doing – the old “Let’s you and him fight” schtick. It’s old. We ain’t buying it anymore. You should get some new material.
No, Iran is interested in YOU and the country to which you are loyal.
True. Which is why your people’s relentless efforts to make enemies of those that you hope will fight your battles for you is so foolish.
When normal people find themselves without friends, they look in the mirror. Not you. Yack knows he’s perfect so the issue must be with the other. Those smelly Men of Unz that fail to love the Joooos just don’t get it.
Here is The Tablet on him.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/antisemitism-with-chinese-characteristics
They reference this 2021 piece (Google Translate seems to give reasonable results).
https://web.archive.org/web/20210622174538/https:/mp.weixin.qq.com/s/CRemOpfC_0ZHgSsxtHV1Ew
Thanks for telling me I’m not a “normal” woman.
I always thought I was. No one has ever suggested that I’m “mannish.”
Unfortunately Epstein is also associated with Courant…
This exposition has more background on the Martians– they were as much German, as they were Hungarian and Jewish. Having imported Gymnasium “grammar school” system to Budapest.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242572746_The_Social_Construction_of_Hungarian_Genius
I think you’re charming and intelligent. But internet posting is objectively abnormal, and more so for women.
Keep whistling past the graveyard. Iran is no significant threat to me. Iran is no significant threat to me. Iran is no significant threat to me. If you say it often enough you might actually begin to believe it.
I looked, and the Jewish people (and I) have a lot of friends. Antisemites like you, not many.
MAY 01, 2024, 04:50 PM | 118TH CONGRESS, 2ND SESSION
Vote Question: On Passage
Antisemitism Awareness Act
Vote Type: Yea-And-Nay
Status: Passed
VOTES
Yea: 320
Nay: 91
You’re under some sort of delusion that just because the Men of Unz and a handful of smelly pro-Arab Leftist protesters don’t like Jews that the Jews don’t have any friends. If you want to see someone friendless, look in your OWN mirror. Maybe you’ll see some fat Lesbians wearing keffiyehs and chanting nonsense. These are you new buddies now.
So you consider that bill a good thing? Good to know.
What is your take on this NYT opinion piece?
Senators Need to Stop the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/opinion/antisemitism-act-free-speech.html
Japan is way behind the world on NEVs, even when it had all the ingredients to be a frontrunner.
Japan’s misinformation campaign against electric cars gaslit an entire country and led it down this path. Sad.
I already believe it, because it’s true. There is no reason why America shoud treat Iran any differently than we treat Saudi Arabia. And, if it weren’t for Israel and the significant clout wielded by it’s supporters in this country, we wouldn’t.
Not everybody shares your ethnic biases. And the old gentile boomers who believe whatever FOX News tells them are dying off. Your brand of BS won’t have as much traction with the new generation.
Evidently, he does. All his talk about the rule of law and our system of legal protections is just a bunch of hogwash. The only thing that motivates Jack D is “who/whom”. He has, both here and in the past, offered his opinion that the civil liberties enshrined in the Constitution are negotiable to him, if violating them offer his people some kind of advantage.
This bill newly passed by the House is a flagrant violation of the 1st amendment. To people like Jack D that means nothing.
“Israel prevented nothing. …”
So the Gaza Strip under Hamas was free to become an independent state with a seat in the United Nations and passports and all that stuff but for some reason chose not to?
“…Iran is no significant threat to me. …”
Seems correct to me. At least it is far down the list.
This is a delusion of the highest order. You think politicians you can buy with campaign contributions are your friends? You don’t know many elected officials, do you?
True friends are those who love you so that they are willing to sacrifice themselves for you (then again, that’s a Christian kind of love – sacrifice). At some point, if the American Jewish lobby persists in behaving this way, there will be a huge chasm between the ordinary American people on the one hand and Jews and their “friends” on the other. And that is going to get ugly. Do you really want to alienate the 97% of the population thusly?
Good grief, are you trying to live up the Hofjude (Court Jew) stereotype?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew
Come on now. You’ve known about his highest moral principle – “Does it privilege me and my fellow Jews?” – for a while now.
It is good to have such clear examples. Can you think of a better example of favoring specific Jewish desires over fundamental constitutional principles?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/05/11/victoria-nuland-state-department-diplomat-interview-00157408