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From Hawk Central:

Iowa football: Big Ten defensive back of year Riley Moss returning to Hawkeyes for ‘one last ride’
Chad Leistikow
Hawk Central

In a surprise decision, Riley Moss is going to experience one more season with the Iowa Hawkeyes.

The Big Ten Conference’s defensive back of the year for 2021 announced Wednesday he will come back for a fifth-year senior season. Moss, who has 10 career interceptions in four seasons at Iowa, had an extra year of eligibility available due to last year’s pandemic-shortened season.

Moss is a 6-foot-1, 194-pound cornerback from Ankeny. His two interception-return touchdowns in Iowa’s season-opening 34-6 rout of Indiana set the stage for a Hawkeye defense that would record a program-record 25 interceptions this season.

The Big Ten, centered on the Great Lakes Region, is the number two college football conference after the South Eastern Conference (SEC). It’s so elite that the Big Ten is going to have 16 teams now that USC and UCLA (four miles from the Pacific Ocean) are joining.

So being the best cornerback/safety in the Big Ten is really good. He’s said to be ranked as the 8th best cornerback nationally for this upcoming season.

Or will the NFL move Moss to safety?

As I may have mentioned once or twice over the years, no white cornerbacks have begun a season as starters since Jason Sehorn and Kevin Kaesviharn (half-Thai and half-white) began the 2003 season as cornerback starters.

So why is Moss coming back for a fifth season when college players are allowed to enter the draft after three seasons?

It’s kind of like why C ooper Kupp, who was the Super Bowl MVP last February, came back for a fourth season at Eastern Washington U. in which he set all sorts of college football receiving records.

Cupp, whose grandfather and father had played in the NFL, had only been offered a few scholarships at obscure inland Pacific Northwest colleges. Cupp won the award as top freshman receiver in college football and then as a junior he won the Walter Payton Award as the top offensive player in college football. But still he passed up the NFL draft to return as a senior, and he set records for most career receiving touchdowns, receiving yards, and receptions.

Cupp was still only drafted in the third round, but he quickly became one of the better receivers in pro football. Then in 2021, the Rams acquired the outstanding QB Matt Stafford and Kupp racked up one of the great seasons in NFL history, leading the league in receptions, touchdowns, and yards — second all-time to Calvin Johnson with 1947, although in 17 games compared to Johnson’s 1964 in 16 games. But being second to Calvin Johnson is really good.

Kupp of Yakima, WA reminds me of how Gonzaga College of Spokane has made itself into an NCAA basketball powerhouse by recruiting white guys who stick around for a full four seasons before trying their luck in the NBA draft because they have a slow life history.

 
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  1. Gonzaga has now turned itself into a national recruiting powerhouse based purely on being so good for so long while not getting those recruits. Now they get expected one year superstars like chet holmgren last season.

    This is almost impossible to do in basketball or football with the conference structures, etc.

    It took a pretty long sustained streak but Gonzaga just willed itself into being a “traditional national power”

  2. Dumbo says:

    Personally… Who cares?

    I can foresee a near future when America will be in the midst of a new Civil War and a new Great Depression, if not turned into a nuclear wasteland, and some white people (the last 10% still remaining in a brown/black/asian majority) will still be arguing about the NFL…

  3. Funny, I did not realize that Moss is White. The University of Iowa is a rather woke school, but it does tend to produce some good White athletes in all its sports. The state is very White, so it makes sense.

    Sadly, the Hawkeyes used COVID as an excuse to drop their men’s swimming and gymnastics teams, probably to give more goodies for football and basketball players.

  4. @Hannah Katz

    Title IX, I have no doubt.

    It has ended many serious men’s sports (wrestling, eg) at colleges needing to become legally compliant.

    This is how equality works in practice.

  5. I love Cupp’s explanation. It’s a long winded and jargon packed description of the game film analysis. He recognizes the opponent’s base defensive scheme, the secondary option they chose, and picked the weakness to exploit. Stafford probably made the same read. It’s kind of like recognizing chess positions, but everything is moving really fast.

    My suspicion is that a lot of NFL players cat get there with enough repetition, and do it automatically, but few will be able to dissect and explain the thought process.

  6. In a surprise decision, Riley Moss is going to experience one more season with the Iowa Hawkeyes.

    “Riley Moss” sounds like a reason farmers use pesticides in those Iowa cornfields.

  7. @Hannah Katz

    Sadly, the Hawkeyes used COVID as an excuse to drop their men’s swimming and gymnastics teams

    Uh, doesn’t chlorine take care of Covid?

    Paging Dr Louganis…

    • Replies: @MGB
  8. Wide receiver is a better position than corner with same skills + 1. You have to have best hands. Most NFL cornerbacks do not have best hands.

    If Moss has best hands he should be playing receiver. This is the main reason there aren’t any white cornerbacks. Cooper K. et al took the trouble to make sure they had best hands.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Keypusher
  9. Tonight seeing my mighty Eels win against all hurdles I just want to warn you, Steve, and likewise all Yanks, against portraying any redoubt against any small crack in the wall as some great victory.

    Reminder: a population less than 3% of ours and on average 5 foot five, diminutive by american standards, has somehow come to have a stranglehold on every facet of American life: media, insiders, online gaming, wank booths and slot machines.

    What made the Eels victory so good was how everyone was down on the halfback, the coach’s son, on account of him being a no talent seemingly spastic imbecile.

    Turns out he isn’t!

    Yay us!!!!

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
  10. @Dumbo

    Steve and many iSteve readers are Boomers who just can’t let go of the world of their youth.

    Sure the NFL hates Steve and other whites as does baseball. Sure, both endlessly promote an anti-white agenda.

    But they provide such compelling storylines. And stats, so many stats. It’s like moths to the light with a certain kind of white guy, especially a Boomer.

  11. magilla says:
    @Dumbo

    Agree. If he makes it, a big if, the first tine he blows coverage he’ll be a back-up on special teams.

    In other words, this has no bearing on me or my peoples’ struggles and issues.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  12. @Pat Hannagan

    It was amazing the amount of American bombast intertwined with Anglo conceit, at times I thought I’d have to intervene between these two false extreme states of human being.

    I was constantly drawn to my people.

    At the same time I loved every moment of everyone about me and what the had to give about their place and people.

  13. Barnard says:
    @Whereismyhandle

    Gonzaga has done a good job of getting a mix of guys who stay one or two years like Holmgren with players like Drew Timme who stay three or four. They have also done a good job recruiting internationally. They have really underperformed in the NCAA tournament and lose to a team they should beat more often than not.

  14. Anon[689] • Disclaimer says:

    He has one more year to gain experience and improve, but it sounds like a lot of projections weren’t super impressed with him. The first one I saw projected him as a late 7th rounder and as a backup/draftable, which might be underrating him a bit. The general consensus was maybe a late 3rd rounder with the highest one I saw putting him at 60, which would be a late 2nd rounder.

  15. Danindc says:

    This should be fun.

    Kaesviharn really only played a season at cornerback so hard to put him on the level as Sehorn who was a top 5 corner and led the Giants to the Super Bowl in 2000. Sehorn was only true white starting cornerback and before him you have to go back to 1978 and Roger Wehrli, who was all pro. So basically in last 45 years there have been only 2 regular staring white cornerbacks in the NFL. It’s absolutely crazy!!!…unless you know something about HBD.

    Read Riley Moss’ scouting report and it screams back up safety and special teamer. I’m rooting for him though.

    NEGATIVES

    — Top-end speed is a question. He lacks a true burst and recovery speed to make up for when he is beat.

    — Average breaking ability. Shows some overall tightness, leading to his trouble getting out of breaks at times. He has trouble covering shiftier/twitchier athletes. Can’t get out of the breaks with the same quickness.

    • Replies: @Barnard
  16. JimDandy says:

    The white man can’t stand seeing the black man have nothin’.

  17. Goatweed says:

    Used the cornerback stat in a racism thread at the Cowboyszone.

  18. TWS says:
    @International Jew

    Is he going to play American football? Because otherwise he’s a fifth wheel in this discussion.

  19. J.Ross says:

    OT Who is the adwizard who thought up persuading Trumplicans to become Neocons by having Shotgun Darth Cheney insist evidencelessly on the January Sixth less-than-a-conspiracy-theory? Which Rick Wilson rubbed his chin and realized that what we’d been missing all this time was an undisclosed location?

  20. NFL position play is very rigged, so after decades, i don’t find this to be an interesting question. the best players don’t always play, that isn’t how NFL works and hasn’t in a long time. these guys aren’t going to be allowed to play, no matter what, so after a while it’s time to stop caring. there’s other more important stuff to think about.

    NFL today is mostly a jobs program for africans. garbage corner play, and that’s what it is, because only africans have been allowed to play the position for decades, doesn’t signify much. in sports terms it is total nonsense that 128 out of 128 corners are africans, year in and year out. it’s the most artificial number in all of sports. a ratio that doesn’t exist in any other sport anywhere. we’re supposed to believe that crackers can play receiver, be bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic than most of the corners, blow past them, embarrass them on the field, make more money than them, but at the same time, there isn’t a single guy who could play corner better than the worst backup corners in the league.

    anybody who actually pays attention to NFL, and follows a team closely, already knows that backup corners on their team are scrub players, and the number 4 corner is typically garbage at football, with some of the worst ones being pure dogshit, to the point that it’s shocking they are even in the league. the Steelers had a guy for a few years, Artie Burns, who was one of the worst players i’ve ever seen in over 40 years. the idea that there weren’t a dozen crackers who could have outplayed him is sheer nonsense.

  21. That this news came out in early January is relevant, before the draft, training camp, etc. He does have NFL interest, if he had just made this decision it would have probably been because he did not receive any roster invites.

  22. speaking to more practical sports concerns, current NFL rules are slanted such that corners are very limited in what they can do and how much effect they can have on the game. so that this guy from Iowa is probably better used as a safety anyway, where he can affect the game more. he’ll immediately be better than half the corners in the NFL, but would be mostly wasted in corner play.

    NFL wants to get rid of these guys at safety as well, so he’ll be doing good to start at safety. if he lands on the wrong team, he’ll mainly be returning punts and covering kick offs, only playing safety in backup situations where the coach is grudgingly forced to play him after 1 or 2 of the ‘real’ players is too injured to go right now.

    safeties are more athletic than corners anyway, and are expected to catch interceptions that hit them right in the hands. corners often drop errant passes that hit them right in the hands and the running joke is ‘well that’s why they play defense’. but again, you run into the question of, so why are bigger, faster, stronger crackers who are more athletic, AND can catch the ball, never allowed to play corner? but literally dozens of smaller, weaker, slower, less athletic africans who can’t catch passes, are allowed to stuff rosters for decades.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  23. Russ says:

    OT: Steve, Charlie Kirk just invoked “Invade The World Invite The World” as a riposte against Dick Cheney, after playing the new ad in which cowboy-hatted Dick labels Le Grand Orange (not Rusty Staub) a coward. Call the trademark enforcement wing of the law firm you have on retainer. 😆

  24. MGB says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    yes, and high humidity apparently inhibits airborne transmission.

  25. @Hannah Katz

    He’s white but has brown eyes. The last white cornerback in the NFL also had dark brown eyes. Why does it matter? The same reason most great quarterbacks have blue eyes: differences in behavioral reactivity. Melanin in the skin, hair and particularly eyes is associated with quick, snap, unplanned reaction. Depigmentation, on the other hand, is associated with careful planning, ie letting many possible opportunities to strike pass over for the ideal action. Think of a quarter back waiting for the last possible moment to throw a ball to the player in the best position. Self paced, like breezy old Sailer who never gets rattled while criticizing some brain dead NYT article line by line!

    Anyhow, once you see this kind of thing, you can’t unsee it. Explains too much social phenomena! And of course, it goes back to nature. Think of the light eyed bird of prey, patiently staring and stalking, verses the big dark eyed dog, who can’t seem to help himself but to snap his head at every possible distraction. Interesting stuff to me….

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
  26. @Whereismyhandle

    Gonzaga has now turned itself into a national recruiting powerhouse based purely on being so good for so long while not getting those recruits. Now they get expected one year superstars like chet holmgren last season.

    This is almost impossible to do in basketball or football with the conference structures, etc.

    Keeping players for 3-4 years works well – it’s something Jay Wright talked about in consciously changing Villanova’s program philosophy away from competing for the blue chip recruits against the Kansases and Dukes of the world and towards recruiting players who are told that they won’t necessarily play much in their freshman and sophomore years. Players who come to a program as a one year layover on their way to the NBA have a transactional agenda that extracts costs from the team almost as much as their talent improves it – they want to make a highlight reel to augment their draft positions and the total compensation in their rookie contracts. In contrast, the 3-4 or even 5 year player has time to develop and commit to his teammates and implement the agenda of the Coach (winning) by executing a game plan.

    Wright’s Villanova teams were able to compete with teams with the NBA bound fast break freshmen who can jump out of the gym because Wright’s players would execute a game plan of slowing the game down by using the shot clock deliberately, moving the basketball for the duration of the shot clock to force the other team to defend for 25+ seconds every trip, defending actively, and making a very high percentage of free throws. It’s also good for continuity and player development not to have to reinvent the program every year around the particular talents and abilities of a freshman or two who declare for the NBA draft at the conclusion of the season.

    Gonzaga may be better off in the long run sticking to the formula that got them from relative obscurity to perennially nationally ranked rather than imitating Kentucky’s program.

  27. @Whereismyhandle

    Title IX, I have no doubt.

    It has ended many serious men’s sports (wrestling, eg) at colleges needing to become legally compliant.

    This is how equality works in practice.

    I think the reality of absolute numerical parity means that you can have a football team or minor men’s sports teams but not both (unless you create a women’s football team which no one really has).

    If you have a Big 10 football program like Iowa does, it’s likely a big net revenue producer for the University via the conference television contract, ticket sales, and licensing of merchandise (jerseys, sweatshirts, etc.) so you’re not going to kill the one cash cow that the athletic department has (and which subsidizes the other athletics programs). Therefore wrestling has to go to make way for women’s crew or something similar.

    Title IX should be repealed but a slight tweak in exempting the net revenue neutral or revenue producing sports programs when calculating participation by sex for Title IX compliance would fix the bulk of this issue. So big time college football teams, some basketball programs, and a smattering of hockey programs would be exempt, but the roster size of football makes it the big “gender offender” when it comes to Title IX compliance requiring the addition of b.s. women’s programs for numerical parity. Take football out of the equation and you don’t need to make up sports for 70+ women with little or no interest anyway.

  28. Troy Apke of the Commanders is a safety moved to corner. He has blazing speed but he sees most of his action as a gunner on special teams.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  29. Truth says:
    @Dumbo

    Well Old Sport, we are not there yet, so in the meantime, why don’t we render onto Ceasar what is Ceasar’s and onto God what is God’s?

  30. Truth says:
    @International Jew

    Question: How come everyone wants to play defense in the Jewish Football League?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  31. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Troy Apke of the Commanders is a safety moved to corner. He has blazing speed but he sees most of his action as a gunner on special teams.

    The “Commanders”? What sort of boring bullshit name is “Commanders”? I don’t pay any attention to the NFL, so I had to look it up–ok it’s Redskins.

    Sure there’s an element here–we will order you about.

    But couldn’t they just have gone for truth-in-labelling: The “Washington Parasites”?

  32. Steve, was this one in your “hold until eye surgery” bag?

    I read this and even though I don’t follow football, I thought “This has to be old, old news. The guy had to make this decision months ago, as the NFL must draft sometime in the spring.” Sure enough–looked it up–the NFL drafts in April. And this Mossy story is from January.

    Anyway my armchair analyst take:
    — his girlfriend is not pregnant
    or
    — he dumped his girlfriend and wants to enjoy another year of Iowa parties
    or
    — his girlfriend is a downhome keeper who doesn’t burn \$\$\$ and has another year left to go at Iowa

  33. @International Jew

    Israel’s one NBA player isn’t African, incidentally: his father was a Bosnian Muslim basketball player and his mother an Israeli Jew.

  34. Yeah, sportsball, okay.

    In other news, the prime minister of Hungary gave a speech in Dallas, Texas yesterday.

    Here is Viktor Orbán:

    • Thanks: tyrone
  35. tyrone says:

    Will a white corner back make everything OK…….so much mental energy on sport ball.

  36. Anonymous[305] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Grown men in their 60s and 70s prattling on about fellas in striped pants playing ball.

    Meanwhile their race is under attack all of the world but they avert their eyes.

    Anything that would require updating their worldview or having a heart for their own people, is “no fun” for them.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  37. @Truth

    Question: How come everyone wants to play defense in the Jewish Football League?

    It’s good training for the Bar.

    • Replies: @Truth
  38. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Here’s something that has the potential for endless compelling story lines:

    Los Angeles City Council members will consider passing an initiative Friday that could force hotels to report vacancies and house homeless individuals in empty rooms.

    http://www.stationgossip.com/2022/08/la-city-council-to-vote-on-initiative.html

  39. The fastest LB at this year’s NFL combine was white guy from Montana State, Troy Andersen, who is 6 ft 3 1/2 and 243 lbs. He ran a 4.41 in the 40 yard dash, posted a 36 inch vertical jump, and standing broad jump of 10 ft. 8 inches. Has played RB, QB, and outside and inside LB in college, Atlanta took him in the 2nd round.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    , @Steve Sailer
  40. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Sure the NFL hates Steve

    I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Most probably don’t know of him, but I suspect if the average NFL owner or head coach read Steve’s blog they’d be nodding along to most of it.

    Most of the NFL’s players are black (more to the point, African American), so the NFL has to defer to their sensibilities, to some extent. But they also have to defer to the sensibilities of their fans, most of whom aren’t black. So the pattern of recent years has been some widely publicized concession to black activists that gets buried in practice.

    For example, reports that the NFL was going to play the “black national anthem” before games. I watched every NY Giants regular season game and a bunch of playoffs games and don’t recall hearing it once. Maybe they did it but didn’t televise it? Idk.

    Anyway, it’s arguably the most entertaining sport in the world. so we watch and enjoy it. It’s no less productive to watch an NFL game than it is to read and comment here.

  41. Goatweed says:

    Currently watching YouTube of Abby Steiner, Lionel Messi, and Luka Doncic.

    Any observations.

  42. prosa123 says:

    OT: it looks like that idiot Alex Jones is on the hook for some serious money.

  43. I feel as though this is an important iSteve civil rights moment akin to Jackie Robinson entering the MLB.

    • LOL: Dave Pinsen
  44. @Dave Pinsen

    The last straw for this shitty league was the scroungy Washington “Commodes” fining an assistant coach for saying that J6 was horseshit while the same people looked the other way for months of BLM anarchy.. This is a team with a scroungy little ((owner))) that whored out its cheerleaders for corporate box potential buyers…
    That was after years of kneeling… etc.
    So screw sportsball… posting here is not the same as supporting a league with ratings and going to stadiums to get fleeced…
    Boomers should leave their childhood and grow up… that poster is right..

  45. Mike Tre says:

    “Iowa football: Big Ten defensive back of year Riley Moss returning to Hawkeyes for ‘one last ride’”

    Do you think Randy Moss was upset when he finally realized he wasn’t this kid’s father?

  46. @puttheforkdown

    And the Japanese and other Fancy Asians? Not sure if you’re being facetious or just trying to give HBD a bad name.

    Also reminds me of someone saying, to the effect “Americans think two months ahead; Japanese think twenty years ahead”

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  47. It’s notable that Matt Stafford was the QB for both Calvin Johnson’s and Cooper Kupp’s top receiving yard seasons. It raises the question of whether Stafford would have had a Tom Brady-like career if he’d landed on a better team than the Detroit Lions.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  48. @Jokah Macpherson

    Stafford has played one season on a really good NFL team and he won the Super Bowl.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  49. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    To the contrary, following pro sports is decidedly masculine and pro white. Go tell the millions of southern men in Bama, Georgia, and Florida on a Sunday afternoon who watch the NFL that they are race traitors.

    You’ll get gutted like a stuffed pig and deservedly so.

  50. Corvinus says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    “Most probably don’t know of him, but I suspect if the average NFL owner or head coach read Steve’s blog they’d be nodding along to most of it.“

    Probably not. But you can dream.

  51. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Oh you think I deserve to be murdered for an opinion you don’t like?

    You love them misdirecting their energy on sports ball.

    Sports can be healthy as long as it’s kept in perspective. That hasn’t been true for 50 years.

  52. @Dave Pinsen

    I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Most probably don’t know of him,

    I meant Steve, average white guy, not Steve, the very pithy but oddly noncommittal blogger.

    but I suspect if the average NFL owner or head coach read Steve’s blog they’d be nodding along to most of it.

    Quite possibly. But then, they’re the help, aren’t they. It’s what the owners and the media executives think that matters, and they most certainly wouldn’t be nodding along with most of it. A few might know that he’s right, but they would understand that Steve’s writing can lead people to think about other groups as well. Can’t have that.

    So the pattern of recent years has been some widely publicized concession to black activists that gets buried in practice.

    Well, since I haven’t watched the NFL in many years, I can’t really argue with that. From your comments, I’m more than willing to accept your word and concede that point.

    But that’s not really the issue, is it. The fact is that every chance that the NFL gets, it will shove its hatred of whites down our throats. It may sweep player protests under the rug, but it doesn’t push back against them, which means that it only stops – for now – out of desire for money.

    Anyway, it’s arguably the most entertaining sport in the world. so we watch and enjoy it.

    I played football in high school. It made me a much better person. And I do remember that it was entertaining to watch, though I never much enjoyed watching it alone, but I will concede that it’s a very entertaining sport to watch.

    However, I simply find it hard to watch – and thus support – an organization that hates me, that openly hates me, even if doesn’t announce that hatred before every game. It’s enough for me that they announce that hatred occasionally in very public ways and, certainly, on their websites every day.

    I mean, if my wife announced a couple of times a year at various parties how much she hated me but kept it quite most of the time, well, it’d still be kind of an issue for me. I might consider getting a divorce if I had any balls.

    It’s no less productive to watch an NFL game than it is to read and comment here.

    First off, you’re dealing with a master of wasting time. I bow to no man at being unproductive. However, reading and commenting on Steve’s HBD-aware but confusingly colorblind CivNat posts does not promote and reward people who hate me. Watching the NFL does.

    I simply can’t get past that – and, frankly, I don’t know how someone as bright and thoughtful as yourself does. Saying “it’s only entertainment” doesn’t do your comments justice.

    • Agree: AnotherDad, Dnought
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  53. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    But they provide such compelling storylines.

    Why bother?

    It’s all scripted to maximize profits for the Vegas sportsbooks.

    All the players and most of the coaches are on drugs.

  54. Feryl says:
    @magilla

    It depends on where he gets drafted. As a first or maybe even an early 2nd round pick he’ll get some grace from management and teammates. Drafted later he might end up being a special teams crash test dummy if he doesn’t immediately impress with his skills and attitude.

  55. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Southern “men” are feminine and their culture is an anti-white matriarchy controlled by bulldykes. Also, we already had that contest in the 1860s… Southerners got gutted.

    • Replies: @Edmund
  56. @Dumbo

    I lost interest in big time sports when I realized it’s almost all about Thugs of Color and their woke employers. Now, not a dime or a second of attention from me.

    • Agree: inspector general
  57. Daniel H says:

    The Big Ten, centered on the Great Lakes Region, is the number two college football conference after the South Eastern Conference (SEC). It’s so elite that the Big Ten is going to have 16 teams now that USC and UCLA (four miles from the Pacific Ocean) are joining.

    Kinda ridiculous, 16 teams in one conference. PAC-10 is a perfectly good football conference.

    And due to quirks in schedules, I’ll bet that it will be several years before some Big Ten team plays each of the others. It’s hoped that in a conference each team can play the other during the season, like the Ivy league, but \$\$\$.

  58. Feryl says:

    Okie dokie, White DB Scott Case started at Cornerback for the Falcons from 1986-1989, going to the pro-bowl in 1988. Granted, he was used as a Safety at the beginning and end of his career due to his size and power
    And one would imagine that the onset of “whites need not apply” thinking WRT cornerback and tailback in the 80’s also factored into what position he played, it’s interesting how a handful of whites were grandfathered into these positions in the early 80’s, but by the late 80’s teams stopped drafting white tailbacks in the early rounds and stopped drafting white CBs at all.

    By the 90’s, even a lot of tight ends were black for crying out loud. Well, in recent years that level of anti-white sentiment among scouts and general managers has waned, mostly in regard to white receivers and tight ends. On the other hand, NFL defenses are much blacker than they were in the early 90’s. Hell, go back to the dawn of the 80’s and you could routinely see defenses that had 5-8 white guys. Which makes a mockery of the idea that whites deserve to be an NFL minority because they are inferior athletes. One theory that I think sounds plausible is that recent generations of blacks were socialized to be entitled and racially resentful, so coaches and other officials began to actively police racial representation on their team so as to not offend the delicate egos and morale of black athletes. Also it’s not a coincidence that childish and braindead behavior by NFLers also intensified in the 80’s right along with the turn against white players in the 80’s. It’s almost as if teams placed ethnic identity politics ahead of professional standards….

    Another theory is that the 80’s is when the Sixties/Civil Rights generation started to have an influence on personnel decisions, and that generation’s guilt and embarrassment regarding the low status of blacks caused them to really turn sports and entertainment into increasingly black dominated realms.

  59. @Dumbo

    Sports is way down on the list of what defines a thriving society.

    It’s just entertainment to keep the masses pacified and their attention off of the rulers.

    Support your local team! They are playing hard to win for you!

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  60. Feryl says:
    @Steve Sailer

    QB seems like a very team-dependent position. Favre went no-where on the Falcons then rebounded with Green Bay (who began to really upgrade their coaching staff and player talent when Favre arrived). Steve Young stunk with Tampa Bay, a perpetual laughing-stock before Tony Dungy and several HOF-ers rescues the team in the late 90’s.

    Who knows how many good QBs were knee-capped by crappy teams and never really recovered.

  61. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    No, I don’t want you murdered. I’m just saying that if share your sentiments to White Southern Men, you and I both know you’ll pay for it. It’s in their opinion that you are a soy boy for holding such views. It’s not sportsball to them, it’s sports.

    Always has been, always will be.

  62. @Anonymous Jew

    That was a common idea in the 1980s and early 1990s when lots of Wall Street/Business School/politico types were paranoid Japan was just going to overwhelm the U.S. with their technological innovation and business savvy. The ever-reliably wrong James Fallows, who always thinks X nation is about to overtake the U.S. unless we embrace central planning, was on such a kick about Japan until their economy stagnated in the 1990s.

    The theme became part of pop culture. Die Hard is set in a new building in LA owned by a Japanese-American businessman. Rising Sun was about Japanese businessmen and a murder investigated by a white cop and a black cop.

    In the Line of Fire (1993) subtly satirized this paranoia in one scene. John Malkovich is an assassin who is a master of disguise, and in one scene has disguised himself as a Wall Street guy at a conference and is sitting with a bunch of other Wall Street/Business School/politico. He says to the table “We think about the next fiscal quarter, the Japanese look at the next quarter of a century” and the entire table nods and agrees as if his wisdom is profound and deep, when really Malkovich’s character is just repeating common pablum; its a nod to how easy it is to fool “sophisticated” people into accepting you so long as you repeat their common mantras confidently.

    https://www.quotes.net/movies/in_the_line_of_fire_5677

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @36 ulster
  63. Truth says:
    @kaganovitch

    No, so they can get the Quarter back.

    • Replies: @reactionry
  64. Truth says:

    I’ve told this story before, but it bears repeating.

    A friend of mine played with John Mangum on the Alabama Crimson Tide, white corner in the late 80s. Said he was a great athlete at every aspect of football but one; he was about 5’10 200 lbs. benched 400, ran a 4.4 had a 35-or-so inch vertical, and was a massive hitter.

    He got drafted by the Bears as a CB and played some corner but mostly safety and special teams. His one deficiency; he was stiff and just couldn’t turn and run with guys. My friend said when they threw the ball at his man, it was going to be a big play, an interception, or a bone-jarring hit, but too many of the former. So he got one of the great nicknames of all time from the Alabama Coaches…

    Mangum P.I. (pass interference).

  65. Barnard says:
    @Danindc

    I watched a few Iowa games last year. I will be surprised if he ever makes a start at cornerback in the NFL.

  66. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Sports, music, movies . . . culture is still a thing that is going on. If the wokesters force you to withdraw from the culture and live in a bunker planning for the apocalyptic race war, then they win.

  67. @SaneClownPosse

    Yes, this is why the Ancient Greeks had their Olympics, to keep the masses pacified. You’re very smart.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  68. @R.G. Camara

    One interpretation of this is that Michael Crichton and James Fallows got Japan completely wrong; another is that the Japanese turned inward.

    You can look at the stagnation of the Japanese stock market (which only regained its 1990 levels a year ago, or something like that), and the lack of Japanese-owned landmarks in America today. Or you can look at Japan’s life expectancy, unemployment rate, crime rate, and infrastructure today and see they’re superior to us in all those categories, by far. Their bullet train network is far more extensive now than when Crichton wrote Rising Sun.

    They have clean, safe cities. We don’t.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  69. @Hypnotoad666

    What kind of cuck thinks that not watching the NFL or MLB means that you withdraw into a bunker. God, you CivNats are a sorry bunch.

    Stockholm Syndrome doesn’t begin to to describe you pussies.

    Instead of spending my Sunday watching blacks run around a field owned by Jews and televised by, yep, Jews, here are a few things that I do.

    Play golf.

    Play with my kids.

    Go fishing.

    Go for a bike ride.

    Etc., etc., etc.

    So, your suggestion is that whites should lay back and die, but enjoy the ride by watching football. Great plan.

    But, obviously, you’re not a white. I think we all know which team that you play for.

    • LOL: 36 ulster
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  70. JimDandy says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    It’s interesting, because there are far more white guys than black guys in America, so this kind of thing is bound to happen every once in a great while

  71. @Anonymous

    “Witness Veronica Esquival said that the baby landed at her feet after the deadly smash. She was pumping gas at the station when the tragedy happened.”

    Imagine had this taken place in New Jersey. Are America’s last full-serve attendants trained to catch flying infants?

    • Replies: @reactionry
  72. Anonymous[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    It’s no less productive to watch an NFL game than it is to read and comment here.

    It is more productive to read and comment here.

  73. Anonymous[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I played football in high school. It made me a much better person.

    How did it make you a better person?

  74. @Anonymous

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11084713/Witness-describes-horrifying-moment-baby-landed-feet-gas-station-driver-killed-six.html

    I find this stuff blood boiling.

    Beyond my standard call for “separate nations!”, to me any society that isn’t executing this woman tomorrow is failing a test of civilizational seriousness.

    Our society seems to have lost a critical bit of understand that we once had, that civilization depends upon enforcing civilized norms. The woman shoed complete and utter contempt for the lives of other people in the community. The community should now show complete and utter contempt for her existence.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  75. @AnotherDad

    I’m as appalled as you are at the whole clusterfuck.

    Events like this are increasingly commonplace
    Nothing anything like this happens in other countries of the West
    The Judicial system increasingly condones them
    No aspect of everyday life is spared

    Is there any alternative to separation, peaceful if possible, not if not?

  76. @Dave Pinsen

    Japan’s life expectancy, unemployment rate, crime rate, and infrastructure today and see they’re superior to us in all those categories, by far.

    Japanese cities are safe and clean because they are full of Japanese. The Japanese immigration policy is the sticking factor there.

    The Japanese like being Japanese. Their tourist policies are nice, and they will allow a certain small number of foreigners to work there, but overstay your welcome and their white-gloved government guys will hustle you to the airport in a jiffy.

    But culturally, its not a paradise. Their men are as emasculated as we are here. While Japanese women have a culturally-enforced public manner of femininity, staying shape, dressing well, and acting cutesy, when married behind closed doors Japanese women are just as domineering, controlling, and ball-cutting as any American woman.

    The joke goes: How do you torture a Japanese housewife?

    Make her have sex with her husband.

    Their bullet train network is far more extensive now than when Crichton wrote Rising Sun.

    lol. Ok, autist. The trains are fine, son. The trains are fine.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  77. @Unladen Swallow

    If a 243 pound linebacker who runs 4.41 in the 40 were black, wouldn’t he go in the first round?

  78. @R.G. Camara

    lol. Ok, autist. The trains are fine, son. The trains are fine.

    I just looked that up once to confirm my suspicion that the “the stock market isn’t the economy” and that claims of Japan’s economic stagnation were greatly exaggerated.

  79. @Truth

    “No, so they can get the Quarter back.”

    Har-Har, but please allow me to put in my two bits (or less) worth: for this thread a better choice might be “Nickel back.”

  80. @Anonymous

    Was Nurse Niccole L. Linton’s “dead name” “Nicholas” or “Daniel”? And will the accident lower her expected lifetime earnings?

  81. @Reg Cæsar

    “…one-year-old boy Alonzo…”
    “…trained to catch flying infants?”

    Neither Last Rites nor Last Full Measure?

    So, the poor kid was what? – an incomplete forward pass? That’s sick, Reg. Yeah, those attendants aren’t cornerbacks or wide receivers. Also, they are not qualified to check Alonzo’s or Lorenzo’s oil.

    Also see: Elon Musk’s plants in China, Trust Your Tesla Car To The Man Who Wears The Red Star

  82. AceDeuce says:
    @prime noticer

    1. You need an editor–preferably one who’ll talk you out of writing at all.

    2. What’s with this “cracker” shit?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  83. Brutusale says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Hey, we’re running out of bread, fire up the circus!

  84. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    So EVERYBODY white in your world who watches the NFL has Stockholm Syndrome, are cucks, and is not “true white? Because the NFL hates you?

    That’s not reality, friend.

  85. Feryl says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Mike Mamula, a white D-Lineman, had some of the best combine ratings ever in the mid-90’s when the Eagles drafted him. He had about 4 ok seasons before injury problems ended his career, not surprisingly the “bust” label was thrown at him as was the derisive name “the workout warrior”. So yes they found a way to use a white player’s athletic ability against him. On a similar note, Brian Bosworth was widely ridiculed for a lackluster career although he basically had early onset arthritis in his shoulders by the time he got to the NFL. There absolutely was a bias against white defenders by the 90’s, emphasizing ridicule for underperforming whites in order to undermine their draft and career prospects.

    At Castefootball they’ve cited scouting reports for similarly skilled black and white players in order to show that blacks are invariably described as more athletic and having more in upside compared to whites with identical physical traits*. Jargon like “burst” and “loose hips” to describe speed and agility is rarely used to describe whites. Meanwhile “surprisingly quick”, “smart”, and “hard working overachiever” are often used to describe whites. In other words, blacks are naturals, while whites have to study and train hard to overcome their limitations.

    *They particularly enjoy pointing out the mediocre measurables of black running backs like Trent Richardson who are drafted higher and given more playing time than white RBs with superior scores.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Danindc
  86. @Steve Sailer

    Brian Urlacher, Clay Matthews, Luke Kuechly had similar metrics and were all drafted first round, but they came from blue chip programs. This year’s DPOY is a white LB edge rusher, the fourth time it has been a Watt in 10 years. Around 20 percent of safeties are white but the top or second guy is usually Harrison Smith or Eric Weddle.

    https://medium.com/@fredrikjosefsson/nfl-breakdown-by-race-and-position-279ef8b2e19f

    So I think total lack of white CBs is somewhat of a statistical anomaly. The real question is where are the black kickers and punters. Some blacks have performed fine at a cerebral position like center.

    • Replies: @Dnought
    , @SteveRogers42
  87. Dnought says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Small school? Also every prospectus I’ve seen for him lists his weight as 235, a little small, though not crazy small.

    Still, considering how hungry NFL teams are for fast linebackers, it would be reasonable to think somebody would take him a flyer on him higher than low second round, especially since there weren’t many good prospects at OLB compared to other drafts, so maybe you have a point.

  88. Dnought says:
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Interesting how that racial breakdown by position stayed so constant between 1999 and 2014.

    I’m trying to remember who the 4% of White CBs were in 1999. The only one I remember was Sehorn.

    The last time my team, the Steelers, had one, was a guy named Rick Woods in the mid-80’s. Mostly a backup/ST’er. Before that you’d have to go back to John Dockery in the mid-70’s, also a backup.

  89. @Anonymous

    First, Corny is a Jew. Arguing with him is pointless. He doesn’t argue in good faith. He’s just trying to promote his cause, and the best way to do that in his mind is to have whites stay in the colorblind CivNat fantasy.

    Btw, I have told huge football fans that watching the NFL or college ball is gay. While they’ve never attacked me, I will say that they really, really don’t like it.

    Funny thing is that I don’t press the issue. They ask me about the big game and I say that I don’t watch. I don’t say why. But they always ask why. Always.

    That’s when I say that sports are just soap operas for men. I’d rather do something else. Most of the time they can’t let it go at that. They keep pressing me on why I don’t like watching sports, so I tell them.

    They get a bit surly but move on.

  90. Jack P says:
    @Hannah Katz

    Their football team also let go the long-standing strength coach after George Floyd. He was accused of “racism”, though more accurately he probably created a culture that was more heartland and traditional, and not constantly pandering to ghetto blacks.

    This could not stand.

  91. 36 ulster says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Malkovich’s statement is reminiscent of Peter Sellers in Being There. Chance the Gardener (a/k/a Chauncey Gardiner), through a series of improbable events, meets the President (Jack Warden) and a powerful billionaire and his wife (Melvyn Douglas and Shirley MacLaine), among others. He makes banal statements about growth and decay in a garden and people believe that he’s speaking profundities about the economy. Of course, the difference is that Malkovich was knowingly engaging in pablum.

  92. @36 ulster

    Yeah, I’m generally not a fan of the “Boomer” stuff. I’ve known a lot of great older guys.

    But as much as I hate to admit it, Boomers seem particularly reluctant to acknowledge the current world. Despite having 50 years of firsthand experience watching colorblind civic nationalism fail, they won’t let go of it.

    Watching the NFL or college football or the MLB – organizations that are openly anti-white aired by even more anti-white networks – is just a symptom of a larger disease.

    How they ignore the fact that these organizations hate them is beyond me.

    • Agree: SteveRogers42
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  93. @Corvinus

    To the contrary, following pro sports is decidedly masculine and pro white. Go tell the millions of southern men in Bama, Georgia, and Florida on a Sunday afternoon who watch the NFL that they are race traitors.

    You’ll get gutted like a stuffed pig and deservedly so.

    https://www.si.com/college/2020/01/10/college-football-attendance-decline-ncaa

    https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2022/02/27/college-football-attendance-drops-to-lowest-average-since-1981

    Plenty more where that comes from, including the NFL.

    Sorry Corvie, the numbers don’t support your cringe worthy (and frankly, embarrassing) emoting on how sports ball entertainers are the epitome of American masculinity…lol

    American white men have been REJECTING the Leftist “bread and circuses” for years now.

    Of all the gay, retarded nonsense you’ve spewed on this website, that little gem may very well take the cake…lol

    BTW, your attempt at speaking like a working man falls flat, cubicle sitter.

    A “stuffed pig” has already been “gutted”, poindexter.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  94. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “How they ignore the fact that these organizations hate them is beyond me“

    It’s not a fact, it’s your opinion. But in your world, everyone who doesn’t abide by your ideology is anti-white.

  95. But does Moss have a room-brightening smile?

  96. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Urlacher came from the U. of New Mexico. A bottom-feeder in a good, but not elite D-1 conference,

  97. Corvinus says:
    @Feryl

    “He had about 4 ok seasons before injury problems ended his career, not surprisingly the “bust” label was thrown at him as was the derisive name “the workout warrior”. So yes they found a way to use a white player’s athletic ability against him.“

    No, he received that designation because he didn’t reach his potential. It has nothing to do with him being white. It has everything to do with a lack of performance.

    “Jargon like “burst” and “loose hips” to describe speed and agility is rarely used to describe whites”

    Citations required here.

    • Replies: @EddieSpaghetti
  98. @AceDeuce

    Note that his only majuscules are in “NFL”– several times– and “AND”.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  99. Danindc says:
    @Feryl

    I respect castefootball but what does they say about 50 year dearth of cornerbacks? I mean, it’s definitely genetic. Would they agree?

    • Replies: @Feryl
  100. @Corvinus

    Corvinus wrote “citations required here.”

    Mr. Corvinus your journalistic integrity schtick is wearing thin. With you it’s always where’s the evidence, citations required, that’s confirmation bias, etc.. However, the fact that you have stated that you believe that the MSM’s preelection coverage of the Hunter Biden Scandal was fair and ethical is bias confirmation indeed.

    Also, you have been critical of Steve for not covering the events of Jan 6 in the in-depth manner that would suit you. Thus, you imply that Steve is sherking his responsibility to report on the Jan 6 “news.” But Steve is not a news reporter; Steve is an opinion columnist/blogger. So it is not his responsibility to report the full spectrum of news. Instead, as with any opinion columnist, he is free to comment on any topic he sees fit.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  101. @Steve Sailer

    Well, he played at a small school, Montana State, just like Cooper Kupp played at Eastern Washington, the idea that white guys don’t get recruited as much due to later development and are more likely to play four years.

    The only other LB who was even close to him in the 40 was a black guy from an SEC school, but he was a lot smaller, three inches shorter and seventeen lbs. lighter. I believe Andersen has a first cousin who is an MLB player.

  102. I don’t care what his skin color is. I care if he’s CHRISTIAN or not. Will he get the complete garbage media pundit “narrative” “he’s a bust” reaction they give CHRISTIAN QB (who is black, Pacific Islander variety) Tua Tagovailoa? (Because he was drafted right before “the great” Justin Herbert (who hasn’t done squat other than throw long passes behind a much better OL than Tua has had). OH, and isn’t Herbert white?

  103. @Emil Nikola Richard

    Sure, Julian Edelman, who made the greatest catch in the greatest Super Bowl, when triple-teamed in Super LI:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SiUNdkIwzQ

    played some cornerback for the Patriots.

    But is there much evidence that whites are much better at eye-hand coordination than blacks?

    My best guess is that they are similar. For instance, the top four defensive baseball infielders of all time were African-American Ozzie Smith #1 followed by three white Baltimore Orioles: Mark Belanger, Brooks Robinson, and Cal Ripken.

    That sounds about right to me.

    On the other hand, while there are numerous mulatto and pardo Latin players high on the list of defensive Wins Above Replacement, the next African-American after Ozzie is Willie Randolph at #51. So maybe Ozzie was a fluke?

  104. Feryl says:
    @Danindc

    40 years, not 50 years (The NFL, even at Cornerback, was much whiter in the 70’s than it was in subsequent decades). Everybody in their right mind understands that blacks, on average, have an advantage in sprinting and to a somewhat lesser extent, agility (and they admit that at Castefootball). But given the sheer # of American whites it defies credulity that for the last 40 years only two white guys have been established players at CB. Especially given that, as previously mentioned, black and white athletes with identical athletic measures are not treated the same. It doesn’t matter what group averages are when judging specific athletes, yet team officials, reporters, fans, and even trading card writers have resorted to lazy stereotypes for 40 years instead of letting the facts speak for themselves. In the 70’s a fast white guy was just called a fast guy, not a “deceptively” fast guy or a “blue collar lunch pail type”. This is what they emphasis at Castefootball, the mindless repetition of stereotypes and generalizations that set in during the 80’s.

    PC (in which whites must be put down as dorky) and being overly concerned with elevating blacks to a higher level of God given talent are what’s plaguing is.

    • Replies: @Danindc
  105. Corvinus says:
    @EddieSpaghetti

    “Mr. Corvinus your journalistic integrity schtick is wearing thin. With you it’s always where’s the evidence, citations required, that’s confirmation bias, etc..”

    It’s called debate. There are claims made or positions taken that must be supported.

    “However, the fact that you have stated that you believe that the MSM’s preelection coverage of the Hunter Biden Scandal was fair and ethical is bias confirmation indeed.”

    That is a strawman. I never made that claim. There was investigation into his dealings. The result is in dispute between those on the left and on the right.

    “Also, you have been critical of Steve for not covering the events of Jan 6 in the in-depth manner that would suit you. Thus, you imply that Steve is sherking his responsibility to report on the Jan 6 “news.” But Steve is not a news reporter; Steve is an opinion columnist/blogger. So it is not his responsibility to report the full spectrum of news. Instead, as with any opinion columnist, he is free to comment on any topic he sees fit.”

    He claims to be a rule of law* and law and order* type of guy. That is, when there are major news stories around these topics, he has offered commentary. But NOTICE he steers clear from Jan 6 because his take on it from those two concepts* would be detrimental to his bottom line.

    • Replies: @EddieSpaghetti
  106. Corvinus says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “My best guess is that they are similar. For instance, the top four defensive baseball infielders of all time were African-American Ozzie Smith #1 followed by three white Baltimore Orioles: Mark Belanger, Brooks Robinson, and Cal Ripken“

    You’re a bit off. Ripken is 7th.

    https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/967554-omar-vizquel-and-the-25-best-defensive-infielders-in-mlb-history.amp.html

  107. @Steve Sailer

    I think that hitting a baseball requires more eye hand coordination than fielding a baseball. So if I were searching for baseball players with the best eye hand coordination, I would focus on players who very rarely struck out. (It would also be interesting to see if the players who rarely struck out were also good fielders.)

    As far as the athletes with the best eye hand coordination, China’s great table tennis players should be at or near the top of that list. They would also have to be at or near the top in fastest reflexes and even first step quickness. In addition, the top table tennis players are among the most highly selected athletes in the world, since there are, perhaps, more than a billion table tennis players.

  108. CF Sports says: • Website

    I can understand the viewpoint of many that there are bigger issues going on in the world when it comes to anti-White racism and discrimination. That we should not even be concerned or bother ourselves with sports.

    However, I have tracked this trend for the past 15 or so years. From my teenage years and growing racial awareness in the mid-late 90s all the way to present day I have picked up on the double standards as they apply across all different aspects of society. In my observation sports were one of the first “institutions” in American society to be taken over by the cultural marxists and weaponized against White males. It’s been a long 50+ years of constant attacks on White athletes – some subtle, some outright militant. The leagues are all exempt from criticism as they are protected by the sports media who have played a key role in disparaging White athletes and getting people who follow sports to latch on to the anti-White agenda. Those on the inside – whether it’s head coaches, recruiters, scouts, assistant coaches dare not rock the boat and question the obvious anti-White discrimination. My guess is that players – especially young White athletes don’t have the support system in place to challenge these things and there are lots of private conversations with their parents and coaches at the high school level that get this reality explained to them as to why major colleges are not looking for their services.

    White kids need White athletes to look up to. It’s only natural for people to draw inspiration from those who look like them. Unfortunately, the boomer generation really bought into the lie of black athletic supremacy and have harmed all generations of White kids that have come since. Their idiocy to believe one race is superior to the rest is just one example of how boomers have destroyed this country. Look at greater society today and thank a boomer for our current existence.

    If you are an advocate for White athletes I would invite you over to http://www.castefootball.us to join us as we we monitor and call out the blatant and obvious discrimination White athletes face.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  109. Corvinus says:
    @CF Sports

    “White kids need White athletes to look up to“

    They do. It’s just that today’s white youth also enjoy following non white athletes. That’s their liberty to do so. How do you seek to indoctrinate them, I mean, convince them otherwise?

  110. @Corvinus

    Corvinus quoted EddieSpaghetti:

    “However, the fact that [Corvinus has] stated that [he] believe[s] that the MSM’s preelection coverage of the Hunter Biden Scandal was fair and ethical is bias confirmation indeed.”

    Then in the very next paragraph Corvinus writes:

    That is a strawman. I never made that claim. There was investigation into his dealings. The result is in dispute between those on the left and on the right.

    No Corvinus, the preelection coverup of the Hunter Biden Laptop Scandal by the MSM was the most egregious case of journalistic malfeasance in the history of the United States. So much for your pretension of journalistic integrity.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  111. @Steve Sailer

    dont forget mike schmidt who was so good in the field ,he appeared to be nonchalant. Dopey phillie fans booed him for that. BTW, absolutely true about the inherent bias towards White ” skill players ” There were behind the scenes rumblings about jason sehorn (anecdotal ) and also peyton hillis made madden team a few years back and some were pissed . Mayge he didnt live up to expectations but it was chicken shit to gripe about it. Euro b ball and boxers aren’t buying the myth that cant play and fight. ESPN Sucks ” bigly ”

  112. Corvinus says:
    @EddieSpaghetti

    “No Corvinus, the preelection coverup of the Hunter Biden Laptop Scandal by the MSM was the most egregious case of journalistic malfeasance in the history of the United States.”

    You are offering your opinion here. Now, of course, if you concerned as you say about coverups and scandals, then why are you apparently unwilling to entertain the notion one was conducted on January 6? Why has Fox News been relatively silent on this matter?

  113. Danindc says:
    @Feryl

    Pat Fisher, Roger Wehrli and a few others. It’s been a black position for 50 years.

    I definitely agree about the unfairness with receiver and RB but cornerback and the loose hips needed seems to be a black thing.

    • Replies: @CF Sports
  114. CF Sports says:
    @Danindc

    Loose hips? That’s more of that boomer talk which laid the template for getting rid of White athletes. Give me a break. Do you see how many shit black cornerbacks there are at all levels of football?

    • Replies: @Danindc
  115. Danindc says:
    @CF Sports

    Yes quite a few. Why do coaches let whites play every position but cornerback??? It’s the strangest thing.

  116. @Steve Sailer

    What you say is true but not really related to my point.

    Everybody in the NFL is a great athlete. The great athletes at corner contain a preponderance of great athletes who could have made a bunch more money if they had put in more time and effort on their hands work but they cut that corner.

    The smarter white guys do not cut that corner and do all the work on their hands and they make a bunch more money. Richard Sherman went to Stanford but Julien Edelman has more brains.

    Got it?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Keypusher
  117. @Emil Nikola Richard

    Makes sense.

    On the other hand, cornerback Richard Sherman earned almost twice (~\$86 million) what receiver (and occasional cornerback) Julian Edelman earned (~\$44 million).

    Personally, I’d want both players on my team.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  118. @Steve Sailer

    Yes. On net Richard Sherman was a great player and his Hall of Fame chances are much greater.

    Income Statement is one measure and Balance Sheet is another.

    How many houses do you suppose Edelman has given away? : )

  119. Keypusher says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Wide receiver is a better position than corner with same skills + 1. You have to have best hands. Most NFL cornerbacks do not have best hands.

    Right about the hands, wrong about the other skills. Most significantly, a corner has to hold the edge on outside runs, which means occasionally taking on a 320 pound guard. WRs don’t have to do anything like that. Also, a CB has to handle all kinds of wideouts, the burners, the big guys, and the precision guys, while wideouts can specialize. There’s no such thing as a slow wide receiver, but to some extent great hands and great routes can make up for a relative lack of speed.

    I think it’s the necessary combination of speed and strength, plus the fact that the position objectively sucks to play, that makes CB a black preserve.

  120. Keypusher says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Everybody in the NFL is a great athlete. The great athletes at corner contain a preponderance of great athletes who could have made a bunch more money if they had put in more time and effort on their hands work but they cut that corner.

    So speed is innate but anyone can catch at an NFL level if they put in their 10,000 hours? Get out of here, Gladwell.

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  121. @Keypusher

    Real world example.

    When J. J. Watt was at his first Texans training camp he injured his right shoulder the first week. This did not increase his time on the exercise bicycle. He spent four hours per day catching footballs from the punter machine with his left hand. I have a hard time imagining anybody else doing that.

    That pick 6 he did on Andy Dalton is a singular play seeded in J. J. Watt’s practice practice. If you have never seen it here ya go:

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