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From the National Bureau of Economic Research:

WHOSE JOB IS IT ANYWAY? CO-ETHNIC HIRING IN NEW U.S. VENTURES

Sari Pekkala Kerr William R. Kerr

ABSTRACT
We explore co-ethnic hiring among new ventures using U.S. administrative data. Co-ethnic hiring is ubiquitous among immigrant groups, averaging about 22.5% and ranging from <2% to >40%. Co-ethnic hiring grows with the size of the local ethnic workforce, greater linguistic distance to English, lower cultural/genetic similarity to U.S. natives, and in harsher policy environments for immigrants. Co-ethnic hiring is remarkably persistent for ventures and for individuals. Co-ethnic hiring is associated with greater venture survival and growth when thick local ethnic employment surrounds the business. Our results are consistent with a blend of hiring due to information advantages within ethnic groups with some taste-based hiring.

… We use these empirical findings to consider the extent to which three conceptual models of co-ethnic hiring are likely to be responsible for the patterns observed. A first model focuses on enhanced communications in the workplace if co-ethnic individuals are able to better communicate with each other and those with similar native languages. A second model emphasizes how co-ethnic hiring can result from better information flow within ethnic groups. To the extent that ethnic networks and concomitant resource access allow superior hiring within ethnic groups, co-ethnic hiring could enhance venture performance. A final conceptual model features taste-based rationales, where members of an ethnic group favor working together, that do not result in a performance advantage and may even lead to weaker outcomes.

… We find striking levels of co-ethnic hiring. The average new venture with five or more workers has a co-ethnic share of about 22.5%, with an enormous range from as low as 1.8% (top earners from Germany) to as high as 45% (top earners from Vietnam). The variation within language groups is also striking, such as the co-ethnic hiring rates for top earners from Mexico being about four times larger than those evident for top earners from Guatemala, Colombia, and Cuba. Our analyses show how these co-ethnic hiring rates systematically relate to the local workforce composition surrounding new firms, the native languages spoken by ethnic groups, and the cultural similarity of groups to the United States (Spolaore and Wacziarg 2016). We observe remarkable persistence in co-ethnic hiring. Even five and ten years after the establishment birth, the co-ethnic share tends to increase slightly, rather than abate. We also follow top earners when they move to new ventures, finding substantial persistence at the level of individuals in terms of hiring patterns.

Turning to the dynamics of ventures, we find that higher initial co-ethnic shares are associated with an increased survival of the firm to five years. We also observe, conditional on survival, greater employment growth to five years with a higher initial co-ethnic share, although some of this effect appears connected to a reduced likelihood of the firm to shrink in size as it ages. Importantly, most of this survival and growth effect happens when the firm conducting co-ethnic hiring is situated in a city-industry setting where the ethnic group makes up a substantial share of local employment. Extensions consider differences by wage levels of firms, estimations using genetic and linguistic differences across immigrant nationalities, and local policy environments with E-Verify implementation. Returning to the three conceptual models, our empirical results are mostly inconsistent with the model focused on overcoming communication barriers. A common language is a feature in hiring, but distinctly second-order to factors like thick local ethnic labor pools. Instead, the weight of evidence suggests that the co-ethnic hiring more typically follows from factors operating within ethnic groups. We find evidence that supports both the information advantage and group taste frameworks, concluding both play important roles. There is overall more support for the information advantage rationale as, on average, venture performance improves with co-ethnic hiring. We observe, however, negative employment growth with co-ethnic hiring when the surrounding local ethnic labor pool is very small, which is more consistent with the group taste rationale. The striking empirical connections evident in this study suggest that the economic consequences of greater workplace and entrepreneurial diversity deserve closer attention.

I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.

 
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  1. tl;dr

    “Tribalism is real. Who knew?”

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @anon


    We find striking levels of co-ethnic hiring.
     
    So have we--the rest of us--with every ethnic group except whites, who wouldn't be caught dead doing it, else they be considered racist. And as everyone knows, only white people can be racist, and all white people are racist. So you see the dilemma.
  2. “Don’t fill your country with people who are prejudiced against you.”

    “Don’t fill your country with people who hate you.”

    These are the simplest and most fundamental anti-immigration slogans.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Drake


    “Don’t fill your country with people who are prejudiced against you.”
    “Don’t fill your country with people who hate you.”
    These are the simplest and most fundamental anti-immigration slogans.
     
    I’ve always found it rather bizarre, to put it mildly, that the response of Western leaders to the 9/11 attacks and the countless other terrorist incidents which have happened since was to open the borders to even more immigration from these countries. I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but it really is, to be kind about it, un-fucking-believable.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    , @AndrewR
    @Drake

    "If you want someone who hates you for a neighbour, vote Liberal Dem, Tory, SNP, UKIP, Brexit or Labour"

  3. Anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    Two counter examples:

    1. I don’t think that American blacks who manage to start solvent, successful businesses want to go overboard with the co-ethnic hiring thing; black judges never hire black clerks; and successful black sports and music people hire only Jews for important posts.

    2. Indians in Japan who start Indian restaurants or Indian markets do hire their coethnics (specifically, their family members), and they tend to go out of business within three years. Service is horrible, everyone ignores you even if there are a dozen “employees” in the shop chatting with one another, and there are always fat women with screaming babies sitting around doing nothing. Since these people aren’t dumb there must be some sort of scam going on that allows them to make a living of some sort while not working that hard.

  4. Are you guys watching Oprah’s interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They’re basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    Damn.

    In better news… It’s a girl!

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby’s skin color.
    -Prince Charles won’t take Harry’s calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Meghan Markle says there were concerns in 🇬🇧 Royal family about her child's skin color.

    “You’re not going to tell me who had that conversation?" Oprah asks.

    “I think that would be very damaging to them.”
     

    Also, she's lying. If she were forced to pin the 'conversation' down upon someone, it'd have to stand up to scrutiny. Better to keep it as vague as possible, lest it become 'damaging' to someone. Remember this is Althea Bernstein's great champion. Hey, how's that FBI investigation going?

    Your woke friends and family hang on Meghan's every word. Me? Not so much.

    PS: Okay, Prince Phillip maybe.

    Replies: @Nachum, @epebble

    , @Jiminy
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I think poor old Meghan thought she was going to set the world on fire. Look at me everyone, I’m black, divorced, an actress and American. Heck, she’s even got Oprah in her corner. And everyone thought OMG, here we go again. Sometimes real life can come as quite a shock. I saw a photo of her with no makeup on and it’s funny how when you have some black in you, it shows up as a lot of little black dots everywhere. I think Morgan Freeman suffers from it as well.
    When businesses only hire the same race as the owners, you can either shop there or not. Boycott them if you don’t agree. You have a choice. And do the laws allow it to happen or not? ( altai, are you getting paid by the number of posts?).

    Replies: @Dissident

    , @PhysicistDave
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The NY Times reports:


    In a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey, Meghan Markle said she had asked officials at Buckingham Palace for medical help after having suicidal thoughts but was told it would damage the institution.
     
    Neither Meghan nor the Gray Lady grasps how the Royals actually thought about this.

    That is, they both assume that the Royals would be unhappy if Meghan decided that "Not to be" was the best option.

    Over the centuries, the Royals have learned to be, shall we say, pragmatic.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Templar

    , @Supply and Demand
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s my sincere hope that woke America forever wars the UK to put Meghan on the throne. She deserves it after such poor treatment.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    , @Ed
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This is going to backfire on them in the UK. A country where people have been under brutal lockdown for a year. The UK isn’t like the USA. Their press doesn’t pander to blacks like the US press.

    If they go to his grandparents funerals they’ll probably be booed or have backs turned to them.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Burning down the royals is the whole point.

    William really needs to get the name of Elon's hair restoration specialist....ASAP...

    , @Mike Tre
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "The Duke of Sussex revealed in an interview with Oprah that his father had "stopped taking his calls."

    Well, I hear James Hewitt been real busy with his landscaping job. Those donwton lawns don't mow themselves, you know. Just ask the ladies.

    , @mmack
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Didn't we fight a war to get away from these people? 😒

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I wouldn't be surprised if there is some truth mixed in to what she says. But, by God, she was a princess. She made it in spades. Have a little backbone. Or some strategy: strutting your miscegenated princling in front of the public and forcing the dottering conservatives to watch them cheer it would have been the best revenge.

    , @Dissident
    @JohnnyWalker123


    tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby’s skin color.
    -Prince Charles won’t take Harry’s calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.
     

    Can you tell us why any of us who are neither related to this family nor have any vested interest in any members or branches thereof should care at all about any of this?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Dacian Julien Soros
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "This is probably the worst PR" blah bah. I am sorry, but how?

    Who cares about the feelings of Little Meghan and Little Harry, in a year when the Queen stood against six votes meant to fire the prime minister and prevent Brexit, thus allowing Boris fulfill the actual wishes of the people? Who knew the Queen would be the actual guardian of democracy?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Art Deco
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It's only bad PR if you assume the British public will have a reaction approximating that of the Oprah audience. Non ci credo. This pair are setting themselves on fire, not the rest of the family.

    If he has any sense, he'll find a sales position in Toronto and she returns to performing, regional theatre if she cannot find screen parts. And as for talking to the media

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYa0jpGFUeY

  5. …with some taste-based hiring.

    This term smacks of the casting couch.

    Sari Pekkala Kerr William R. Kerr

    Spolaore and Wacziarg 2016

    These hardly appear to be “co-ethnics”. (“Pekkala”, by the way, means “Peter’s place”. Good name for a bar.)

    I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.

    They didn’t do “studies” in the 17th century. In the 19th, Paddy couldn’t afford to “hire” them.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Reg Cæsar

    "In the 19th, Paddy couldn’t afford to “hire” them."

    Just count how many Micks were arrested in the Paddy Wagon in NY, Phila, Chi, and Boston, and that'll give a rough estimate.

  6. So this is evidence against having a diverse workforce? When everyone speaks the same language and has the same unwritten rules about what is and is not permissable, things work more efficiently.

  7. I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.

    The White man is literally the Black man’s best friend.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Anon


    The White man is literally the Black man’s best friend.
     
    You could almost replace 'best' with 'only' although there is a Tribe who will convince black ppl that they are their true friends, at least when they can weaponize blacks against whites.
    , @Luzzatto
    @Anon

    Anon you do not see Jews as White remember you have said this many times, so by your logic it's not the "White" man who is employing Blacks at big corporations and government jobs because remember Jews supposedly run everything. Atleast be consistent. So the "White" man gets ZERO credit for giving the Black man a job because "Whites" are all part of a racially oppressed underclass ruled by Jewish elites and underclass people are not job creators. No racially oppressed underclass person has ever given me a job!

  8. We are always hearing about how wonderful it is that immigrants open businesses.

    But how wonderful is it really if they hire so many other immigrants? I wonder how many of these businesses have other immigrants as their #1 source of customers? Is it fair that Americans are supposed to hire immigrants without discrimination or prejudice when immigrants favor other immigrants in their hiring practices?

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @anthony aaron
    @notsaying

    I worked in the korean community in LA for almost a decade … and the hiring of family and/or other koreans isn't the big problem … it's the tax evasion at every level.

    When they hire family, there's no workers comp paid -- no social security or other payroll taxes -- and, most of all, no income taxes. They simply did/do not believe they had to pay taxes to US even though we're the ones who kept the Japanese from using them for cannon fodder during WW2.

    Their attitude -- and this among the upper-level folks in korea town -- was that they were here to do as they pleased and it's perfectly fine to get away with it.

    We used to call them the jews of the orient … and for good reason -- the similarities were striking -- and, in fact, I noticed that whenever they did business with Americans -- especially as partners and such -- they'd do that business with the jews.

    Another painful truth for them here in the States -- likely just like back home in korea -- that they screwed each other mercilessly when the opportunity arose … again, just like the jews I worked with for many years, too.

    Replies: @Muggles

  9. Tom Wolfe once said that Chinese store owners were afraid of hiring blacks as they were afraid that Black Stallions would have hoe downs with their daughters in their back storage rooms!

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Dan Hayes

    That wasn’t TomWolfe, it was either Tiny Duck or maybe Whiskey — I’ll check the archives and circle back to you.

  10. OFF TOPIC:

    pic.twitter.com/Ng8zjRH4BW— CrimeWatchMpls (@CrimeWatchMpls) March 7, 2021

    • Replies: @Dan Smith
    @Jack Armstrong

    The news coverage the other day said it was “near” 38th and Chicago. It was right at the spot Floyd died. Apparently by the time the cops arrived, the dead guy and survivor had already been transported and dumped at the hospital. So much for a clean crime scene. Now coverage is memory holed. Time to prepare for more rioting.

  11. @Drake
    "Don't fill your country with people who are prejudiced against you."

    "Don't fill your country with people who hate you."

    These are the simplest and most fundamental anti-immigration slogans.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @AndrewR

    “Don’t fill your country with people who are prejudiced against you.”
    “Don’t fill your country with people who hate you.”
    These are the simplest and most fundamental anti-immigration slogans.

    I’ve always found it rather bizarre, to put it mildly, that the response of Western leaders to the 9/11 attacks and the countless other terrorist incidents which have happened since was to open the borders to even more immigration from these countries. I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but it really is, to be kind about it, un-fucking-believable.

    • Agree: Gordo, ben tillman
    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Wilkey

    Where’s Enoch Powell when we need him?

    , @AndrewR
    @Wilkey

    It's not bizarre at all. "Western leaders" are, to a man, either hostile interlopers, or the shameless enablers thereof

    , @Anonymous
    @Wilkey

    I'm not surprised that racial cuck Dubya would have no problem with continuing Moose-limb immigration, even after 9/11. As for his successor, Barack Hussein Obama, who lived in Indonesia and based on his own words is an Islamophile , all I have to say is whaddya expect?

  12. @Dan Hayes
    Tom Wolfe once said that Chinese store owners were afraid of hiring blacks as they were afraid that Black Stallions would have hoe downs with their daughters in their back storage rooms!

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    That wasn’t TomWolfe, it was either Tiny Duck or maybe Whiskey — I’ll check the archives and circle back to you.

  13. @Wilkey
    @Drake


    “Don’t fill your country with people who are prejudiced against you.”
    “Don’t fill your country with people who hate you.”
    These are the simplest and most fundamental anti-immigration slogans.
     
    I’ve always found it rather bizarre, to put it mildly, that the response of Western leaders to the 9/11 attacks and the countless other terrorist incidents which have happened since was to open the borders to even more immigration from these countries. I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but it really is, to be kind about it, un-fucking-believable.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    Where’s Enoch Powell when we need him?

  14. @anon
    tl;dr

    "Tribalism is real. Who knew?"

    Replies: @Polistra

    We find striking levels of co-ethnic hiring.

    So have we–the rest of us–with every ethnic group except whites, who wouldn’t be caught dead doing it, else they be considered racist. And as everyone knows, only white people can be racist, and all white people are racist. So you see the dilemma.

  15. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    Meghan Markle says there were concerns in 🇬🇧 Royal family about her child’s skin color.

    “You’re not going to tell me who had that conversation?” Oprah asks.

    “I think that would be very damaging to them.”

    Also, she’s lying. If she were forced to pin the ‘conversation’ down upon someone, it’d have to stand up to scrutiny. Better to keep it as vague as possible, lest it become ‘damaging’ to someone. Remember this is Althea Bernstein’s great champion. Hey, how’s that FBI investigation going?

    Your woke friends and family hang on Meghan’s every word. Me? Not so much.

    PS: Okay, Prince Phillip maybe.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Polistra

    Yeah, I was thinking Philip, maybe, said something offhand that Markle took way too personally. And with Philip in the hospital Markle won't say a word against him.

    And that's it. Otherwise, she's lying through her teeth. She's been screaming "racism" since the moment they started dating. Of *course* she'd do it here as well, especially considering who was interviewing her.

    A PR disaster for the Royals? Ha. They've survived far worse, and this is going to be like the Dr. Seuss thing for most Brits.

    Replies: @Polistra, @James Speaks, @TelfoedJohn

    , @epebble
    @Polistra

    Oprah clarified today that it was not the Queen or Prince Phillip. Harry mentioned that it was not his grandparents - which means Harry heard it too.

    Replies: @Polistra

  16. Does this really surprise anyone?

  17. @Anon

    I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.
     
    The White man is literally the Black man's best friend.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Luzzatto

    The White man is literally the Black man’s best friend.

    You could almost replace ‘best’ with ‘only’ although there is a Tribe who will convince black ppl that they are their true friends, at least when they can weaponize blacks against whites.

  18. OT:

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1368745578474176512

    Why? Were they concerned he’d look too white. There are Sicilians darker than Meghan. There’s certainly no brown paper bags lighter than her.

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @Altai

    The Royal Family are Woke. So it is way more likely that they are extremely disappointed that Meghan Markle's baby did not come out Black and came out White. I am willing to bet The Royal Family were hoping that the baby would have come out racially looking like Charlize Theron's adopted Black children because you could never mistake Charlize Theron's kids for anything but Black. There is no racial ambiguity there!

    , @Anonymous
    @Altai


    There are Sicilians darker than Meghan.
     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/50/c2/af50c23d788eb0960283d1ddb1c45744.jpg

    Sicilian actress Maria Grazia Cucinotta who starred in ‘Il Postino’.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  19. @Polistra
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Meghan Markle says there were concerns in 🇬🇧 Royal family about her child's skin color.

    “You’re not going to tell me who had that conversation?" Oprah asks.

    “I think that would be very damaging to them.”
     

    Also, she's lying. If she were forced to pin the 'conversation' down upon someone, it'd have to stand up to scrutiny. Better to keep it as vague as possible, lest it become 'damaging' to someone. Remember this is Althea Bernstein's great champion. Hey, how's that FBI investigation going?

    Your woke friends and family hang on Meghan's every word. Me? Not so much.

    PS: Okay, Prince Phillip maybe.

    Replies: @Nachum, @epebble

    Yeah, I was thinking Philip, maybe, said something offhand that Markle took way too personally. And with Philip in the hospital Markle won’t say a word against him.

    And that’s it. Otherwise, she’s lying through her teeth. She’s been screaming “racism” since the moment they started dating. Of *course* she’d do it here as well, especially considering who was interviewing her.

    A PR disaster for the Royals? Ha. They’ve survived far worse, and this is going to be like the Dr. Seuss thing for most Brits.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Nachum

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/meghan-markles-interview-was-full-of-bull/

    Harry & Megs swear that this is really truly the very last time they'll dish.

    Right, says I: until Next Tuesday, which we should rename after her.

    Replies: @notsaying

    , @James Speaks
    @Nachum

    Meghan was supposed to be as a stalking horse. Did. Not. Work.

    Her appearance on Oprah was as swan song. Also, Did. Not. Work.

    Like the Dr. Seuss kerfuffle, dishing on the royal family was an overreach.

    , @TelfoedJohn
    @Nachum

    https://youtu.be/1FmcbZoEvzI

    https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article21785988.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Copy-picture-of-front-page-of-The-Sun-newspaper-shows-Britains-Prince-Harry-wearing-swastika-armban.jpg

    https://m.imgur.com/IA1xl

  20. It takes an advanced education to be so innocent.

  21. Altai’s Law: Never allow mass migration of any ethnicity that displays more ethnocentric or tribalistic behaviour than the core population.

    That should be a standard common sense thing to come out of Steve’s Immigration Crash Investigation Bureau’s first report.

  22. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    I think poor old Meghan thought she was going to set the world on fire. Look at me everyone, I’m black, divorced, an actress and American. Heck, she’s even got Oprah in her corner. And everyone thought OMG, here we go again. Sometimes real life can come as quite a shock. I saw a photo of her with no makeup on and it’s funny how when you have some black in you, it shows up as a lot of little black dots everywhere. I think Morgan Freeman suffers from it as well.
    When businesses only hire the same race as the owners, you can either shop there or not. Boycott them if you don’t agree. You have a choice. And do the laws allow it to happen or not? ( altai, are you getting paid by the number of posts?).

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Jiminy


    ( altai, are you getting paid by the number of posts?).
     
    It's generally understood and accepted that instances of multiple identical or nearly identical posts should, absent compelling evidence to believe otherwise, be assumed to be the result of a technical glitch.

    Replies: @Jiminy

  23. @Nachum
    @Polistra

    Yeah, I was thinking Philip, maybe, said something offhand that Markle took way too personally. And with Philip in the hospital Markle won't say a word against him.

    And that's it. Otherwise, she's lying through her teeth. She's been screaming "racism" since the moment they started dating. Of *course* she'd do it here as well, especially considering who was interviewing her.

    A PR disaster for the Royals? Ha. They've survived far worse, and this is going to be like the Dr. Seuss thing for most Brits.

    Replies: @Polistra, @James Speaks, @TelfoedJohn

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/meghan-markles-interview-was-full-of-bull/

    Harry & Megs swear that this is really truly the very last time they’ll dish.

    Right, says I: until Next Tuesday, which we should rename after her.

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Polistra

    Off Topic

    Thanks to your link I saw this unexpected glimpse into the lives of a married black couple in which the husband, a former Army officer and current student at Yale Law School, is an enthusiastic parent who encourages people to have kids:

    "Even before my daughter was born, our doctor assumed that my wife and I — a young black couple — wouldn’t want to keep our child. The doctor kept insisting that there were “other options” if we chose not to follow through with the pregnancy.

    Since blacks account for over 36 percent of abortions (despite only comprising 14 percent of the childbearing population), I suppose a young married black couple just didn’t look like parents to a pro-abortion physician."

    I have never read anything like that before happening to a capable married couple. The husband isn't a complainer, though, he is very upbeat and focused on finding ways to make life better for all Americans. I sure wish there were a lot more black men like him.

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/elites-see-my-black-baby-as-nothing-more-than-a-carbon-emitter/

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Neuday

  24. Completely OT epiphany:

    You Jew conspiracists will dig it. Does it strike anyone as more than coincidence that Detriot has been made into the beta test for EVERY American city?

    Was there perhaps some person in Detriot who might have incurred the wrath of the Chosen?

  25. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    The NY Times reports:

    In a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey, Meghan Markle said she had asked officials at Buckingham Palace for medical help after having suicidal thoughts but was told it would damage the institution.

    Neither Meghan nor the Gray Lady grasps how the Royals actually thought about this.

    That is, they both assume that the Royals would be unhappy if Meghan decided that “Not to be” was the best option.

    Over the centuries, the Royals have learned to be, shall we say, pragmatic.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @PhysicistDave

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/03/05/unsolicited-advice-for-queen-elizabeth/

    tl;dr: Harry is likely a bastard (genealogical kind, not moral kind). Meghan is inadvertently rescuing the royal family from a serious quandary.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Templar
    @PhysicistDave

    A lot of people dismiss the theories around Princess Diana's convenient car accident.
    In 1979 the IRA blew up Lord Mountbatten Prince Charles' great uncle.
    A man called Thomas McMahon was convicted in an Irish court and sentenced to life. His alleged accomplice was Francis Mcgirl but the case against Mcgirl was dismissed.
    About 10 years later Mcgirl was found dead in a field 40 miles south of the border. He had a lot of alcohol in his bloodstream and had been run over by a tractor with a plow still attached.
    Dangerous things tractors.

  26. @Wilkey
    @Drake


    “Don’t fill your country with people who are prejudiced against you.”
    “Don’t fill your country with people who hate you.”
    These are the simplest and most fundamental anti-immigration slogans.
     
    I’ve always found it rather bizarre, to put it mildly, that the response of Western leaders to the 9/11 attacks and the countless other terrorist incidents which have happened since was to open the borders to even more immigration from these countries. I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but it really is, to be kind about it, un-fucking-believable.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    It’s not bizarre at all. “Western leaders” are, to a man, either hostile interlopers, or the shameless enablers thereof

  27. Really? Nepotism is a thing?

    Whoodathunkit?

  28. lower cultural/genetic similarity to U.S. natives

    Problematic.

  29. @Altai
    OT:

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1368745578474176512

    Why? Were they concerned he'd look too white. There are Sicilians darker than Meghan. There's certainly no brown paper bags lighter than her.

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Anonymous

    The Royal Family are Woke. So it is way more likely that they are extremely disappointed that Meghan Markle’s baby did not come out Black and came out White. I am willing to bet The Royal Family were hoping that the baby would have come out racially looking like Charlize Theron’s adopted Black children because you could never mistake Charlize Theron’s kids for anything but Black. There is no racial ambiguity there!

  30. @Drake
    "Don't fill your country with people who are prejudiced against you."

    "Don't fill your country with people who hate you."

    These are the simplest and most fundamental anti-immigration slogans.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @AndrewR

    “If you want someone who hates you for a neighbour, vote Liberal Dem, Tory, SNP, UKIP, Brexit or Labour”

  31. Meghan Markle said she had asked officials at Buckingham Palace for medical help after having suicidal thoughts but was told it would damage the institution.

    Didn’t even catch this before, but does anyone believe that if Megs were really suicidal she’d have “asked officials at Buckingham Palace for medical help” to deal with it?

    After all she’d have us believe about the Palace and the Evil Racists within?
    And as though she’d have no other resources available?

    It’s no wonder she took up Althea Bernstein’s case so readily.
    She recognized a kindred spirit.

    PS: Sorry Steve about your thread. Blame JW 😉

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Polistra

    https://twitter.com/LifeMathMoney/status/1368781219840675843

    Poor chap.

    Replies: @Jiminy, @Mike Tre

  32. @Nachum
    @Polistra

    Yeah, I was thinking Philip, maybe, said something offhand that Markle took way too personally. And with Philip in the hospital Markle won't say a word against him.

    And that's it. Otherwise, she's lying through her teeth. She's been screaming "racism" since the moment they started dating. Of *course* she'd do it here as well, especially considering who was interviewing her.

    A PR disaster for the Royals? Ha. They've survived far worse, and this is going to be like the Dr. Seuss thing for most Brits.

    Replies: @Polistra, @James Speaks, @TelfoedJohn

    Meghan was supposed to be as a stalking horse. Did. Not. Work.

    Her appearance on Oprah was as swan song. Also, Did. Not. Work.

    Like the Dr. Seuss kerfuffle, dishing on the royal family was an overreach.

  33. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    It’s my sincere hope that woke America forever wars the UK to put Meghan on the throne. She deserves it after such poor treatment.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Supply and Demand

    Now that would be a "Claim the Throne" casus belli for the age. Not as good as beheading the crown, but certainly major points nonetheless.

    Alas, too much solidarity betwixt them, who ever they are.

  34. … enhanced communications in the workplace if co-ethnic individuals are able to better communicate with each other…

    Conquest’s First Law of Multikulti: Everyone is ethnocentric about who they know best.

  35. @Polistra

    Meghan Markle said she had asked officials at Buckingham Palace for medical help after having suicidal thoughts but was told it would damage the institution.
     
    Didn't even catch this before, but does anyone believe that if Megs were really suicidal she'd have "asked officials at Buckingham Palace for medical help" to deal with it?

    After all she'd have us believe about the Palace and the Evil Racists within?
    And as though she'd have no other resources available?

    It's no wonder she took up Althea Bernstein's case so readily.
    She recognized a kindred spirit.

    PS: Sorry Steve about your thread. Blame JW ;)

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Poor chap.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Maybe Harry’s favourite hobby is collecting belly button lint in a jar.

    , @Mike Tre
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This reminds me of the Mike Tyson / Robin Givens interview from like 35 years ago when she pretty much spent the entire interview trashing Tyson and he just sat there and took it.

    Is the sex with these mongrels really worth it?

  36. The quote from Meghan Markle about one of the Royal Family making reference to the skin colour of the baby was referred to over and over and over again in the BBC report on the interview.

  37. Immigrant Entrepreneurs Engage in Striking Levels of Co-Ethnic Hiring

    Speaking of the world renowned Indian engineering talent, here’s an entertaining look at the subcontinent’s attention to detail:

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Just another serf

    Yes to the spokesmodel, no to the robot!

    , @mmack
    @Just another serf

    Would an Indian Siri be called . . . Sari 🥻 ? 😏

    Obviously the problem is she didn't preface her requests with "Please do the needful."

  38. Anyone who has seen an IT department or consulting firm either run by or with hiring mangers who are Indian(dot, not feather) has already seen this in spades.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @The Alarmist


    Anyone who has seen an IT department or consulting firm either run by or with hiring mangers who are Indian(dot, not feather) has already seen this in spades.
     
    My experiences confirm this absolutely.

    The tail end of my career found me consecutively working in three different venues, a private company with about thirty employees, another private company with about fifty to one hundred employees, and the public health department of a major northeastern state. All were heavily technology dependent. By the time I arrived each had begun employing Indian H-1b computer techs at various levels.

    The upper level managers in each organization claimed that they recruited H-1b Indians because they couldn't find competent native-born tech workers. This was crap. There was plenty of competent and experienced native-born and US trained talent available but their required salaries were commensurate with their skill and training.

    In fact most of the H-1b hires were barely competent, if that. However, they were cheap and docile workers, compliant to the point of ass-licking. Ultimately, any remaining, native-born and US educated technical staff were an essential backup to fix the invariably defective code and systems these hires created. Although it was far from as good as it could have been, the resulting ramshackle system functioned enough to provide cover for senior management. As a bonus, the H-1bs also served as a bulwark against unionizing technical workers and exercising the power of existing unions.

    The worst impact of these Indian hires occurred years after they were first hired. Their ass-licking skills got many of them management positions. Once they obtained such a position, they revealed a whole new level of incompetence. They treated subordinates like dirt. They evaded the usual responsibilities of management, handing of all real work to subordinates, usual creating chaos and dysfunction in the process.

    Their incompetence and nastiness soon drove out the more competent, native-born staff. The Indian mangers more often than not replaced these with hires of further Indians, all of whom were usually far less competent than those they replaced and many of whom turned out to have familial and social ties with the Indian who hired them.

    This process has been eroding the USA's base of technical expertise for several decades now. I fear that it may be too late to halt the process. More than a few intelligent, native-born, young Americans have told me that they avoided a technical major in college precisely because they saw the unfair competition created by current hiring practices in technical fields. We are truly morphing into a third-world country at every level.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Malla

  39. Ed says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    This is going to backfire on them in the UK. A country where people have been under brutal lockdown for a year. The UK isn’t like the USA. Their press doesn’t pander to blacks like the US press.

    If they go to his grandparents funerals they’ll probably be booed or have backs turned to them.

  40. @Nachum
    @Polistra

    Yeah, I was thinking Philip, maybe, said something offhand that Markle took way too personally. And with Philip in the hospital Markle won't say a word against him.

    And that's it. Otherwise, she's lying through her teeth. She's been screaming "racism" since the moment they started dating. Of *course* she'd do it here as well, especially considering who was interviewing her.

    A PR disaster for the Royals? Ha. They've survived far worse, and this is going to be like the Dr. Seuss thing for most Brits.

    Replies: @Polistra, @James Speaks, @TelfoedJohn

  41. @Polistra
    @Nachum

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/meghan-markles-interview-was-full-of-bull/

    Harry & Megs swear that this is really truly the very last time they'll dish.

    Right, says I: until Next Tuesday, which we should rename after her.

    Replies: @notsaying

    Off Topic

    Thanks to your link I saw this unexpected glimpse into the lives of a married black couple in which the husband, a former Army officer and current student at Yale Law School, is an enthusiastic parent who encourages people to have kids:

    “Even before my daughter was born, our doctor assumed that my wife and I — a young black couple — wouldn’t want to keep our child. The doctor kept insisting that there were “other options” if we chose not to follow through with the pregnancy.

    Since blacks account for over 36 percent of abortions (despite only comprising 14 percent of the childbearing population), I suppose a young married black couple just didn’t look like parents to a pro-abortion physician.”

    I have never read anything like that before happening to a capable married couple. The husband isn’t a complainer, though, he is very upbeat and focused on finding ways to make life better for all Americans. I sure wish there were a lot more black men like him.

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/elites-see-my-black-baby-as-nothing-more-than-a-carbon-emitter/

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @notsaying



    I have never read anything like that before happening to a capable married couple.
     
    Because it never happened. The mass media just let people make up anything they like, because racism. No one dares question any of it, because
    , @Neuday
    @notsaying


    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/elites-see-my-black-baby-as-nothing-more-than-a-carbon-emitter/
     
    So why don't we also see:
    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/elites-see-my-white-baby-as-nothing-more-than-a-racist-future-tax-cow/

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/elites-see-my-mexican-baby-as-nothing-more-than-a-future-democrat-voter/

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/elites-see-my-aborted-baby-as-nothing-more-than-a-clump-of-cells/
  42. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Polistra

    https://twitter.com/LifeMathMoney/status/1368781219840675843

    Poor chap.

    Replies: @Jiminy, @Mike Tre

    Maybe Harry’s favourite hobby is collecting belly button lint in a jar.

  43. I once went full co-ethnic: I hired a first cousin, a chap I’d hardly seen since childhood.

    He proved to be clever, energetic, and a pleasure to have around. Data = many anecdotes.

  44. Co-ethnic hiring =/= discrimination.
    Co-ethnic hiring =/= racism. They have nothing to do with one another.

  45. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    OT:

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1368745578474176512

    Why? Were they concerned he'd look too white. There are Sicilians darker than Meghan. There's certainly no brown paper bags lighter than her.

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @Anonymous

    There are Sicilians darker than Meghan.

    Sicilian actress Maria Grazia Cucinotta who starred in ‘Il Postino’.

    • Agree: Luzzatto
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anonymous


    Sicilian actress Maria Grazia Cucinotta who starred in ‘Il Postino’.

     

    Also the cigar girl from the World is Not Enough:

    https://youtu.be/PsMLwQ15p28
  46. @Reg Cæsar

    ...with some taste-based hiring.
     
    This term smacks of the casting couch.

    Sari Pekkala Kerr William R. Kerr

    Spolaore and Wacziarg 2016
     
    These hardly appear to be "co-ethnics". ("Pekkala", by the way, means "Peter's place". Good name for a bar.)

    I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.

     

    They didn't do "studies" in the 17th century. In the 19th, Paddy couldn't afford to "hire" them.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “In the 19th, Paddy couldn’t afford to “hire” them.”

    Just count how many Micks were arrested in the Paddy Wagon in NY, Phila, Chi, and Boston, and that’ll give a rough estimate.

  47. @notsaying
    @Polistra

    Off Topic

    Thanks to your link I saw this unexpected glimpse into the lives of a married black couple in which the husband, a former Army officer and current student at Yale Law School, is an enthusiastic parent who encourages people to have kids:

    "Even before my daughter was born, our doctor assumed that my wife and I — a young black couple — wouldn’t want to keep our child. The doctor kept insisting that there were “other options” if we chose not to follow through with the pregnancy.

    Since blacks account for over 36 percent of abortions (despite only comprising 14 percent of the childbearing population), I suppose a young married black couple just didn’t look like parents to a pro-abortion physician."

    I have never read anything like that before happening to a capable married couple. The husband isn't a complainer, though, he is very upbeat and focused on finding ways to make life better for all Americans. I sure wish there were a lot more black men like him.

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/elites-see-my-black-baby-as-nothing-more-than-a-carbon-emitter/

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Neuday

    I have never read anything like that before happening to a capable married couple.

    Because it never happened. The mass media just let people make up anything they like, because racism. No one dares question any of it, because

  48. Huh, Tribalism and nepotism exist? Good thing we have our best minds on this.

    Diversity is only good in food courts. It seems that the more diversity we have the less tolerance.

  49. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    Burning down the royals is the whole point.

    William really needs to get the name of Elon’s hair restoration specialist….ASAP…

  50. Co-ethnic hiring is ubiquitous among immigrant groups

    File this paper under “No Shit, Sherlock” so we can find it easily in the future. On the other hand, that file is getting very crowded.

  51. @PhysicistDave
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The NY Times reports:


    In a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey, Meghan Markle said she had asked officials at Buckingham Palace for medical help after having suicidal thoughts but was told it would damage the institution.
     
    Neither Meghan nor the Gray Lady grasps how the Royals actually thought about this.

    That is, they both assume that the Royals would be unhappy if Meghan decided that "Not to be" was the best option.

    Over the centuries, the Royals have learned to be, shall we say, pragmatic.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Templar

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/03/05/unsolicited-advice-for-queen-elizabeth/

    tl;dr: Harry is likely a bastard (genealogical kind, not moral kind). Meghan is inadvertently rescuing the royal family from a serious quandary.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Almost Missouri

    I believe one of Diana's security detail has said on the record and for attribution that she didn't meet James Hewitt until 1986.

    And Harry's so many steps from the throne that he's in hardly any danger of ascending it.


    I suspect the real problem with her is that she's an actress and was told, explicitly and implicitly, that attention-seeking behavior will not be rewarded.

  52. @Anon

    I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.
     
    The White man is literally the Black man's best friend.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Luzzatto

    Anon you do not see Jews as White remember you have said this many times, so by your logic it’s not the “White” man who is employing Blacks at big corporations and government jobs because remember Jews supposedly run everything. Atleast be consistent. So the “White” man gets ZERO credit for giving the Black man a job because “Whites” are all part of a racially oppressed underclass ruled by Jewish elites and underclass people are not job creators. No racially oppressed underclass person has ever given me a job!

  53. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    “The Duke of Sussex revealed in an interview with Oprah that his father had “stopped taking his calls.”

    Well, I hear James Hewitt been real busy with his landscaping job. Those donwton lawns don’t mow themselves, you know. Just ask the ladies.

  54. It was so back in the good old Ellis Island days we’re so nostalgic about.

    OK maybe the little Italian grocery would occasionally hire an Irish kid, but not usually. Et cetera all around.

    And nobody thought it was anti-American. The “melting pot” idea was a little later, pushed by people who wanted to assimilate.

  55. What’s with all the Harry and Meghan posts?

    Are they supposed to be model immigrants? LOL

  56. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Polistra

    https://twitter.com/LifeMathMoney/status/1368781219840675843

    Poor chap.

    Replies: @Jiminy, @Mike Tre

    This reminds me of the Mike Tyson / Robin Givens interview from like 35 years ago when she pretty much spent the entire interview trashing Tyson and he just sat there and took it.

    Is the sex with these mongrels really worth it?

  57. @Just another serf

    Immigrant Entrepreneurs Engage in Striking Levels of Co-Ethnic Hiring
     
    Speaking of the world renowned Indian engineering talent, here’s an entertaining look at the subcontinent’s attention to detail:

    https://youtu.be/7tCiAru6iqg

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @mmack

    Yes to the spokesmodel, no to the robot!

  58. I used to frequent a franchise restaurant in an adjacent suburb. The owner was a very pleasant immigrant, polite and hard-working. This person hired a multi-ethnic group of employees, including many african-americans since that was the preponderance of people in this particular suburb. All of the employees hired by the owner were pleasant, polite, and hard-working.

    The owner then sold the franchise. I don’t know who the new owner was – if they were on site, it was never apparent. Almost overnight, the employees changed over. It was no longer multi-ethnic. The employees, with a few exceptions, were no longer pleasant, polite, or hard-working. The food got worse – even tightly controlled franchises can deviate in quality when the employees are or are not trying. The cleanliness of the restaurant declined even faster than the food. I stopped going to that location.

    In a fairly short time, a busy franchise restaurant in a fairly affluent and busy area near a small college campus was “closed for remodeling”. This was a couple of years before the pandemic, in case you were wondering.

    Is there a moral to this story? Yes – not all immigrants hire just their own ethnicity. Certainly many starting out in business do – it tends to be their family. If their ethnic hiring results in a pleasant, hard-working, and polite group, it will work out. If their ethnic hiring results in an unpleasant, inefficient, and uncaring group, it won’t.

  59. @Jack Armstrong
    OFF TOPIC:

    pic.twitter.com/Ng8zjRH4BW— CrimeWatchMpls (@CrimeWatchMpls) March 7, 2021
     

    Replies: @Dan Smith

    The news coverage the other day said it was “near” 38th and Chicago. It was right at the spot Floyd died. Apparently by the time the cops arrived, the dead guy and survivor had already been transported and dumped at the hospital. So much for a clean crime scene. Now coverage is memory holed. Time to prepare for more rioting.

  60. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    Didn’t we fight a war to get away from these people? 😒

  61. @Just another serf

    Immigrant Entrepreneurs Engage in Striking Levels of Co-Ethnic Hiring
     
    Speaking of the world renowned Indian engineering talent, here’s an entertaining look at the subcontinent’s attention to detail:

    https://youtu.be/7tCiAru6iqg

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @mmack

    Would an Indian Siri be called . . . Sari 🥻 ? 😏

    Obviously the problem is she didn’t preface her requests with “Please do the needful.”

  62. I remember my third engineering assignment back in the early 80’s, working on a nuclear project in Georgia. The site rep for a contract engineering firm (Job shop, as we called it) sat in front of me. One time she showed me the resumes she was sending to an Indian who managed the Westinghouse Small Bore Piping Design group on site. Among the 15 or so resumes she sent him for two openings there were qualified Americans, some very highly, and two Indians; one with a certificate of attendance from New Delhi Institute of Technology, and another who was a shoe salesman.

    “He’ll hire the Indians,” she told me, and sure enough he did. I asked about the certificate of attendance, and she explained that in India you got some credit for going to college, even when you didn’t graduate. This was the early 80’s, and I have no idea that’s still true.

    I went on to discover the Indians formed an association which would set up new arrivals, paying their way for the first month or so, and guiding them in settling here, and helping them to become American citizens. To receive that help the arrival had to commit to contributing a portion of his paycheck for some set period of time, I think it was a year.

  63. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some truth mixed in to what she says. But, by God, she was a princess. She made it in spades. Have a little backbone. Or some strategy: strutting your miscegenated princling in front of the public and forcing the dottering conservatives to watch them cheer it would have been the best revenge.

  64. If there ever was a time for the Royal Palace to put out the secrets on who Harrys real dad is, now is the time

  65. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    @Drake


    “Don’t fill your country with people who are prejudiced against you.”
    “Don’t fill your country with people who hate you.”
    These are the simplest and most fundamental anti-immigration slogans.
     
    I’ve always found it rather bizarre, to put it mildly, that the response of Western leaders to the 9/11 attacks and the countless other terrorist incidents which have happened since was to open the borders to even more immigration from these countries. I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but it really is, to be kind about it, un-fucking-believable.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    I’m not surprised that racial cuck Dubya would have no problem with continuing Moose-limb immigration, even after 9/11. As for his successor, Barack Hussein Obama, who lived in Indonesia and based on his own words is an Islamophile , all I have to say is whaddya expect?

  66. Oh, so this explains why all the Greek restaurants have Greek servers, and why all the Lopez and Son landscaping businesses have 1st gen/2nd gen Latin immigrants or illegals.

    Who knew?

  67. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby’s skin color.
    -Prince Charles won’t take Harry’s calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Can you tell us why any of us who are neither related to this family nor have any vested interest in any members or branches thereof should care at all about any of this?

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Dissident


    Can you tell us why any of us who are neither related to this family nor have any vested interest in any members or branches thereof should care at all about any of this?
     
    There is a worrisome tendency in the Anglosphere to dismiss the sister countries, particularly the US and the UK (and Canada in the US), then blindly and stupidly adopting the worst aspects of the dismissed lands. Between Wallis and Meghan, there were Chuck Berry and Madonna.

    Canada has learned nothing about race from America, and America nothing about language from Canada. (BTW, what good has "official English" ever done for them? They have a century and a half experience with it.)

    A living face on the money is a good daily reminder of whence the nation came. William and George are each more English than their parents, and Charles won't be there that long-- assuming he survives his mother. (George III was the grandson of George II.)

    Monarchy has its advantages, and is a lot more important than moderns give it credit for.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Malla

  68. I get the sense that at least some of the co-ethnic hiring in small family type immigrant businesses is a means to circumvent American wage and labor laws.

    I don’t really think that the Indian guy at the gas station or convenience store is making time and a half for overtime hours, nor do I think that the non-English speaking back of house staff at the local Chop Suey joint is being paid as W-2 wage earners. What happens when a Guatemalan falls off a roof? I’m guessing he’s dumped at the local ER in a wheelbarrow no questions asked (and certainly not answered).

    I further strongly suspect that in some of these circumstances the cut rate labor is being given in trade for immigration access by the established business owners. Has anyone looked into whether the younger Indian clerk in the gas station isn’t arranged in marriage to the owner’s daughter? In such a case, might he be working “off the clock” for significant hours?

    The Democrats and JEB/lolbertarian wing of the GOP will then cite immigrant entrepreneurship and financial success in order to shame and diminish actual Americans.

    • Thanks: Dissident, JohnnyWalker123
  69. @Jiminy
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I think poor old Meghan thought she was going to set the world on fire. Look at me everyone, I’m black, divorced, an actress and American. Heck, she’s even got Oprah in her corner. And everyone thought OMG, here we go again. Sometimes real life can come as quite a shock. I saw a photo of her with no makeup on and it’s funny how when you have some black in you, it shows up as a lot of little black dots everywhere. I think Morgan Freeman suffers from it as well.
    When businesses only hire the same race as the owners, you can either shop there or not. Boycott them if you don’t agree. You have a choice. And do the laws allow it to happen or not? ( altai, are you getting paid by the number of posts?).

    Replies: @Dissident

    ( altai, are you getting paid by the number of posts?).

    It’s generally understood and accepted that instances of multiple identical or nearly identical posts should, absent compelling evidence to believe otherwise, be assumed to be the result of a technical glitch.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
    @Dissident

    I was only joking, as the same thing happened to me the day earlier. The site kept going to a 505 page. I thought it looked like the Unz site might have been taken down. But strangely the posting still went through every time. Later on somebody took the duplicate posts down for me though.

    Replies: @Dissident

  70. “ I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.”
    Steve, if you would like to do the study yourself, I can help you out by providing your first data point. One of the Silicon Valley tech companies I worked for was founded by a guy from the Philippines and two guys from India. It peaked at a payroll of around 400 if you included foreign offices. We had, briefly, 1 African-American employee.
    It was an oddly refreshing place to work because of its lack of any pretense about why we were all there. We were there to make a crap load of money until the technological breakthrough product we made became a commodity, the average selling prices collapsed, and everyone went on to The Next Big Thing. You know all that diversity and sensitivity training that HR is big on? Never bothered. As I recall everyone received a document warning about the no-no-ness of sexual harassment because it was required by law and that was it.
    It was an oddly exhilarating place, kind of like the gladiatorial training camp in Spartacus where you got to measure how smart, strong, focused, and ambitious you really were. The employee performance evaluation categories were Exceptional, Exceeds Expectations, Meets Expectations. There were no categories such as Needs Improvement because if you did, you simply wouldn’t be there anymore. (I suppose the making a crapload of money part helped with the exhilaration factor).

  71. If you work in payroll, you see who works for whom, what their ethnicities are, and how much they get paid. This is what I see in my area, without any exaggeration.

    Mexicans hire Mexicans
    Russians hire Russians
    Chinese hire Chinese
    Armenians hire Armenians
    Filipinos hire Filipinos
    American whites hire whomever can do the job, often Mexicans.

    We have one client, a Filipino business owner, who periodically goes back to the Philippines and brings back another family member to put to work. She then complains about them and we wonder, why not hire locally? Is it really worth it to put up with bad work from an entitled relative? But that’s employment culture outside of America.

  72. @notsaying
    We are always hearing about how wonderful it is that immigrants open businesses.

    But how wonderful is it really if they hire so many other immigrants? I wonder how many of these businesses have other immigrants as their #1 source of customers? Is it fair that Americans are supposed to hire immigrants without discrimination or prejudice when immigrants favor other immigrants in their hiring practices?

    Replies: @anthony aaron

    I worked in the korean community in LA for almost a decade … and the hiring of family and/or other koreans isn’t the big problem … it’s the tax evasion at every level.

    When they hire family, there’s no workers comp paid — no social security or other payroll taxes — and, most of all, no income taxes. They simply did/do not believe they had to pay taxes to US even though we’re the ones who kept the Japanese from using them for cannon fodder during WW2.

    Their attitude — and this among the upper-level folks in korea town — was that they were here to do as they pleased and it’s perfectly fine to get away with it.

    We used to call them the jews of the orient … and for good reason — the similarities were striking — and, in fact, I noticed that whenever they did business with Americans — especially as partners and such — they’d do that business with the jews.

    Another painful truth for them here in the States — likely just like back home in korea — that they screwed each other mercilessly when the opportunity arose … again, just like the jews I worked with for many years, too.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Muggles
    @anthony aaron


    We used to call them the jews of the orient … and for good reason — the similarities were striking — and, in fact, I noticed that whenever they did business with Americans — especially as partners and such — they’d do that business with the jews.
     
    Always with the Jews! (Should be capitalized since it is a religion, like Catholic.)

    But I agree with you about immigrants and taxes. One big reason why they love to buy rent houses: no income tax reporting on rent paid! That could be easily done but IRS is too stupid...

    True story: When out interviewing a potential client I learned he was an immigrant Israeli who had an auto body shop. The shop owner had to interrupt our discussion to negotiate with a customer wanting to sell an old car.

    This customer was oddly dressed, sort of a poor looking immigrant type. I waited a good 20 minutes. When the Israeli shop owner came back I could tell he was agitated. "Goddamn gypsies", he said, "they'll bargain over a quarter for an hour!"

    High praise, I thought, considering the source. I have had a few dealings with gypsies myself on behalf of a client. They are extreme. But when buying, they always had plenty of cash, even for large industrial goods. Huge rolls of hundreds.
  73. A lot of immigrant businesses are small, family-run. Probably the overwhelming majority. So other than being hired to take out and break cartons, I’d say none.

    Then woke whites protest Ikea and CostCo opening in their cities when the big boxes are the only businesses hire minorities.

  74. @notsaying
    @Polistra

    Off Topic

    Thanks to your link I saw this unexpected glimpse into the lives of a married black couple in which the husband, a former Army officer and current student at Yale Law School, is an enthusiastic parent who encourages people to have kids:

    "Even before my daughter was born, our doctor assumed that my wife and I — a young black couple — wouldn’t want to keep our child. The doctor kept insisting that there were “other options” if we chose not to follow through with the pregnancy.

    Since blacks account for over 36 percent of abortions (despite only comprising 14 percent of the childbearing population), I suppose a young married black couple just didn’t look like parents to a pro-abortion physician."

    I have never read anything like that before happening to a capable married couple. The husband isn't a complainer, though, he is very upbeat and focused on finding ways to make life better for all Americans. I sure wish there were a lot more black men like him.

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/elites-see-my-black-baby-as-nothing-more-than-a-carbon-emitter/

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Neuday

  75. @The Alarmist
    Anyone who has seen an IT department or consulting firm either run by or with hiring mangers who are Indian(dot, not feather) has already seen this in spades.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    Anyone who has seen an IT department or consulting firm either run by or with hiring mangers who are Indian(dot, not feather) has already seen this in spades.

    My experiences confirm this absolutely.

    The tail end of my career found me consecutively working in three different venues, a private company with about thirty employees, another private company with about fifty to one hundred employees, and the public health department of a major northeastern state. All were heavily technology dependent. By the time I arrived each had begun employing Indian H-1b computer techs at various levels.

    The upper level managers in each organization claimed that they recruited H-1b Indians because they couldn’t find competent native-born tech workers. This was crap. There was plenty of competent and experienced native-born and US trained talent available but their required salaries were commensurate with their skill and training.

    In fact most of the H-1b hires were barely competent, if that. However, they were cheap and docile workers, compliant to the point of ass-licking. Ultimately, any remaining, native-born and US educated technical staff were an essential backup to fix the invariably defective code and systems these hires created. Although it was far from as good as it could have been, the resulting ramshackle system functioned enough to provide cover for senior management. As a bonus, the H-1bs also served as a bulwark against unionizing technical workers and exercising the power of existing unions.

    The worst impact of these Indian hires occurred years after they were first hired. Their ass-licking skills got many of them management positions. Once they obtained such a position, they revealed a whole new level of incompetence. They treated subordinates like dirt. They evaded the usual responsibilities of management, handing of all real work to subordinates, usual creating chaos and dysfunction in the process.

    Their incompetence and nastiness soon drove out the more competent, native-born staff. The Indian mangers more often than not replaced these with hires of further Indians, all of whom were usually far less competent than those they replaced and many of whom turned out to have familial and social ties with the Indian who hired them.

    This process has been eroding the USA’s base of technical expertise for several decades now. I fear that it may be too late to halt the process. More than a few intelligent, native-born, young Americans have told me that they avoided a technical major in college precisely because they saw the unfair competition created by current hiring practices in technical fields. We are truly morphing into a third-world country at every level.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    A lot of the executives (Ballmer, Page, Brin, Zuckerberg, Sandberg) doing the hiring of Indian H1bs were Jewish, as were a remarkable fraction of the lobbyists and immigration attorneys who helped liberalize H1b policies.

    There are currently 4 prominent lobbyists who are trying to get green cards for H1bs. They are leading the charge right now in DC.

    Their names.

    Greg Siskind. Leon Fresco. Alex Nowrasteh. David Bier.

    All 4 are Jewish. What are the odds?

    Why would Jews be obsessed with getting green cards for Indian H1bs? You tell me.

    , @Malla
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    The way they/we infiltrate and take over sounds like how a virus takes over a host cell.
    I had been warning from the very beginning that if a first world host society is not extremely selective in Third World people immigration (reasonable IQ, high trust/ high moral character, agreeable, no chip on the shoulder w.r.t the West and Whitey etc... ) and keeping numbers extremely low (with those strict criterion, the numbers would have been very low by default, LOL), the host First World country would inevitably turn into a third world nation. And yes Jews are included among these "Third World Peoples".

  76. On Markle : if you saw pictures of her as teenager, her hair was not straight and her complexion noticeably darker. Skin lightener anyone.

  77. CCZ says:

    Slightly related, “Zeroth Amendment” and “Lady Liberty”:

    Democrat Bill Would Stop Future Presidents From Lowering Refugee Intake Quota.

    The “‘Lady Liberty Act of 2021,” with support from over 50 House Democrats, seeks to “amend the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) to provide for a minimum number of refugees who may be admitted in any fiscal year after fiscal year 2022.”

    To do so, the act would amend Section 207(a) of the INA by inserting after ‘‘in any fiscal year after fiscal year 1982 shall be such number as the President determines,’’ the following: ‘‘except that in any fiscal year after fiscal year 2022, such number may not be less than 125,000, without regard to whether or not the President makes any determination.”

    In other words, from fiscal year 2022 on, the U.S. president would be unable to lower the refugee admission minimum below 125,000 people.

    https://www.congress.gov/117/bills/hr977/BILLS-117hr977ih.pdf

  78. ‘Immigrant Entrepreneurs Engage in Striking Levels of Co-Ethnic Hiring’

    Of course they do. There was a time when noting this would have about as exciting as pointing out that some birds fly south for the winter.

  79. ‘I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.’

    Since blacks would hardly be likely to apply for the type of job probably on offer (low wage, no black colleagues, actual work) the sample size would be small.

    When I ran my moving business, I must have gone through fifty helpers over the years — anyone who had the necessary qualities could find something better-paying, and eventually did.

    Only four of them were black — and two of those were immigrants. This was in an area where a good third of those who would plausibly want such a job would have been black. I had no particular aversion to hiring blacks, and advertised in the local free paper, so the job was there. It’s not like you had to know somebody.

    Blacks just didn’t want it, apparently.

  80. I’d like to see a study of how many African-Americans are hired by immigrants.

    Me, too.

    Also, I’d like to hear more about co-ethnic hiring in the Indian-American community.

  81. @PhysicistDave
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The NY Times reports:


    In a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey, Meghan Markle said she had asked officials at Buckingham Palace for medical help after having suicidal thoughts but was told it would damage the institution.
     
    Neither Meghan nor the Gray Lady grasps how the Royals actually thought about this.

    That is, they both assume that the Royals would be unhappy if Meghan decided that "Not to be" was the best option.

    Over the centuries, the Royals have learned to be, shall we say, pragmatic.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Templar

    A lot of people dismiss the theories around Princess Diana’s convenient car accident.
    In 1979 the IRA blew up Lord Mountbatten Prince Charles’ great uncle.
    A man called Thomas McMahon was convicted in an Irish court and sentenced to life. His alleged accomplice was Francis Mcgirl but the case against Mcgirl was dismissed.
    About 10 years later Mcgirl was found dead in a field 40 miles south of the border. He had a lot of alcohol in his bloodstream and had been run over by a tractor with a plow still attached.
    Dangerous things tractors.

  82. @Dissident
    @JohnnyWalker123


    tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby’s skin color.
    -Prince Charles won’t take Harry’s calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.
     

    Can you tell us why any of us who are neither related to this family nor have any vested interest in any members or branches thereof should care at all about any of this?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Can you tell us why any of us who are neither related to this family nor have any vested interest in any members or branches thereof should care at all about any of this?

    There is a worrisome tendency in the Anglosphere to dismiss the sister countries, particularly the US and the UK (and Canada in the US), then blindly and stupidly adopting the worst aspects of the dismissed lands. Between Wallis and Meghan, there were Chuck Berry and Madonna.

    Canada has learned nothing about race from America, and America nothing about language from Canada. (BTW, what good has “official English” ever done for them? They have a century and a half experience with it.)

    A living face on the money is a good daily reminder of whence the nation came. William and George are each more English than their parents, and Charles won’t be there that long– assuming he survives his mother. (George III was the grandson of George II.)

    Monarchy has its advantages, and is a lot more important than moderns give it credit for.

    • Thanks: Dissident
    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Reg Cæsar

    On the one hand, I'm bothered when American media pays British royalty any attention, or the goings on of any royalty.

    On the other hand, from a political and social studies perspective, I think it is vital to, as you say, keep up on the sister countries. All countries of importance and relevance, of course, but the culturally and politically close especially so. Even just as negative examples.

    The media here though is clearly just fawning pop madness, which is loathsome.

    Some societies do better with a Czar, some with a party oligarchy, and some as democracies. Modern monarchies besides Thailand aren't really impressing me, but they certainly can have value and purpose.

    , @Malla
    @Reg Cæsar


    Monarchy has its advantages, and is a lot more important than moderns give it credit for.
     
    Prof. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a scholar of Russian Orthodox history and philosophy. He completed his doctorate at the University of Nebraska at Lincoln in 1999. He is a former professor of both history and political science at the University of Nebraska (as a graduate student), Penn State University and Mount St. Mary’s University. Since 1999, he was the editor (and is presently Senior Researcher) at The Barnes Review, a well-known renegade journal of European history. He lost his job at St. Mary's University because he made his students read "The Myth of the 20th Century" by Alfred Rosenberg. And his students protested the decision to have him dismissed, he was the most popular history Prof there.

    Prof Johnson, after studying European history, came to the conclusion that you either have a strong Monarchy/leader or you have a Oligarchy behind the scenes. That is it. All else is bullshit. According to him the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth where Jews were used as tax farmers to exploit the peasants, was never a strong monarchy but a oligarchy of nobles behind the scenes. Tsarists Russia on the other hand was a strong monarchy.

    One can read some of his writings here
    https://thewardenpost.net/author/raphael/

  83. @Supply and Demand
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s my sincere hope that woke America forever wars the UK to put Meghan on the throne. She deserves it after such poor treatment.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    Now that would be a “Claim the Throne” casus belli for the age. Not as good as beheading the crown, but certainly major points nonetheless.

    Alas, too much solidarity betwixt them, who ever they are.

  84. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dissident


    Can you tell us why any of us who are neither related to this family nor have any vested interest in any members or branches thereof should care at all about any of this?
     
    There is a worrisome tendency in the Anglosphere to dismiss the sister countries, particularly the US and the UK (and Canada in the US), then blindly and stupidly adopting the worst aspects of the dismissed lands. Between Wallis and Meghan, there were Chuck Berry and Madonna.

    Canada has learned nothing about race from America, and America nothing about language from Canada. (BTW, what good has "official English" ever done for them? They have a century and a half experience with it.)

    A living face on the money is a good daily reminder of whence the nation came. William and George are each more English than their parents, and Charles won't be there that long-- assuming he survives his mother. (George III was the grandson of George II.)

    Monarchy has its advantages, and is a lot more important than moderns give it credit for.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Malla

    On the one hand, I’m bothered when American media pays British royalty any attention, or the goings on of any royalty.

    On the other hand, from a political and social studies perspective, I think it is vital to, as you say, keep up on the sister countries. All countries of importance and relevance, of course, but the culturally and politically close especially so. Even just as negative examples.

    The media here though is clearly just fawning pop madness, which is loathsome.

    Some societies do better with a Czar, some with a party oligarchy, and some as democracies. Modern monarchies besides Thailand aren’t really impressing me, but they certainly can have value and purpose.

  85. @Polistra
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Meghan Markle says there were concerns in 🇬🇧 Royal family about her child's skin color.

    “You’re not going to tell me who had that conversation?" Oprah asks.

    “I think that would be very damaging to them.”
     

    Also, she's lying. If she were forced to pin the 'conversation' down upon someone, it'd have to stand up to scrutiny. Better to keep it as vague as possible, lest it become 'damaging' to someone. Remember this is Althea Bernstein's great champion. Hey, how's that FBI investigation going?

    Your woke friends and family hang on Meghan's every word. Me? Not so much.

    PS: Okay, Prince Phillip maybe.

    Replies: @Nachum, @epebble

    Oprah clarified today that it was not the Queen or Prince Phillip. Harry mentioned that it was not his grandparents – which means Harry heard it too.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @epebble


    which means Harry heard it too
     
    Harry will say and do exactly what his wife tells him to--no more, no less.

    Still no corroborating evidence of any kind.
  86. @Dissident
    @Jiminy


    ( altai, are you getting paid by the number of posts?).
     
    It's generally understood and accepted that instances of multiple identical or nearly identical posts should, absent compelling evidence to believe otherwise, be assumed to be the result of a technical glitch.

    Replies: @Jiminy

    I was only joking, as the same thing happened to me the day earlier. The site kept going to a 505 page. I thought it looked like the Unz site might have been taken down. But strangely the posting still went through every time. Later on somebody took the duplicate posts down for me though.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Jiminy


    I was only joking,
     
    Thanks. I perhaps should have at least suspected as much.

    the same thing happened to me the day earlier.
     
    Happens to the best of us, including Mr. Sailer himself.
  87. @anthony aaron
    @notsaying

    I worked in the korean community in LA for almost a decade … and the hiring of family and/or other koreans isn't the big problem … it's the tax evasion at every level.

    When they hire family, there's no workers comp paid -- no social security or other payroll taxes -- and, most of all, no income taxes. They simply did/do not believe they had to pay taxes to US even though we're the ones who kept the Japanese from using them for cannon fodder during WW2.

    Their attitude -- and this among the upper-level folks in korea town -- was that they were here to do as they pleased and it's perfectly fine to get away with it.

    We used to call them the jews of the orient … and for good reason -- the similarities were striking -- and, in fact, I noticed that whenever they did business with Americans -- especially as partners and such -- they'd do that business with the jews.

    Another painful truth for them here in the States -- likely just like back home in korea -- that they screwed each other mercilessly when the opportunity arose … again, just like the jews I worked with for many years, too.

    Replies: @Muggles

    We used to call them the jews of the orient … and for good reason — the similarities were striking — and, in fact, I noticed that whenever they did business with Americans — especially as partners and such — they’d do that business with the jews.

    Always with the Jews! (Should be capitalized since it is a religion, like Catholic.)

    But I agree with you about immigrants and taxes. One big reason why they love to buy rent houses: no income tax reporting on rent paid! That could be easily done but IRS is too stupid…

    True story: When out interviewing a potential client I learned he was an immigrant Israeli who had an auto body shop. The shop owner had to interrupt our discussion to negotiate with a customer wanting to sell an old car.

    This customer was oddly dressed, sort of a poor looking immigrant type. I waited a good 20 minutes. When the Israeli shop owner came back I could tell he was agitated. “Goddamn gypsies”, he said, “they’ll bargain over a quarter for an hour!”

    High praise, I thought, considering the source. I have had a few dealings with gypsies myself on behalf of a client. They are extreme. But when buying, they always had plenty of cash, even for large industrial goods. Huge rolls of hundreds.

  88. @Anonymous
    @Altai


    There are Sicilians darker than Meghan.
     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/50/c2/af50c23d788eb0960283d1ddb1c45744.jpg

    Sicilian actress Maria Grazia Cucinotta who starred in ‘Il Postino’.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Sicilian actress Maria Grazia Cucinotta who starred in ‘Il Postino’.

    Also the cigar girl from the World is Not Enough:

  89. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @The Alarmist


    Anyone who has seen an IT department or consulting firm either run by or with hiring mangers who are Indian(dot, not feather) has already seen this in spades.
     
    My experiences confirm this absolutely.

    The tail end of my career found me consecutively working in three different venues, a private company with about thirty employees, another private company with about fifty to one hundred employees, and the public health department of a major northeastern state. All were heavily technology dependent. By the time I arrived each had begun employing Indian H-1b computer techs at various levels.

    The upper level managers in each organization claimed that they recruited H-1b Indians because they couldn't find competent native-born tech workers. This was crap. There was plenty of competent and experienced native-born and US trained talent available but their required salaries were commensurate with their skill and training.

    In fact most of the H-1b hires were barely competent, if that. However, they were cheap and docile workers, compliant to the point of ass-licking. Ultimately, any remaining, native-born and US educated technical staff were an essential backup to fix the invariably defective code and systems these hires created. Although it was far from as good as it could have been, the resulting ramshackle system functioned enough to provide cover for senior management. As a bonus, the H-1bs also served as a bulwark against unionizing technical workers and exercising the power of existing unions.

    The worst impact of these Indian hires occurred years after they were first hired. Their ass-licking skills got many of them management positions. Once they obtained such a position, they revealed a whole new level of incompetence. They treated subordinates like dirt. They evaded the usual responsibilities of management, handing of all real work to subordinates, usual creating chaos and dysfunction in the process.

    Their incompetence and nastiness soon drove out the more competent, native-born staff. The Indian mangers more often than not replaced these with hires of further Indians, all of whom were usually far less competent than those they replaced and many of whom turned out to have familial and social ties with the Indian who hired them.

    This process has been eroding the USA's base of technical expertise for several decades now. I fear that it may be too late to halt the process. More than a few intelligent, native-born, young Americans have told me that they avoided a technical major in college precisely because they saw the unfair competition created by current hiring practices in technical fields. We are truly morphing into a third-world country at every level.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Malla

    A lot of the executives (Ballmer, Page, Brin, Zuckerberg, Sandberg) doing the hiring of Indian H1bs were Jewish, as were a remarkable fraction of the lobbyists and immigration attorneys who helped liberalize H1b policies.

    There are currently 4 prominent lobbyists who are trying to get green cards for H1bs. They are leading the charge right now in DC.

    Their names.

    Greg Siskind. Leon Fresco. Alex Nowrasteh. David Bier.

    All 4 are Jewish. What are the odds?

    Why would Jews be obsessed with getting green cards for Indian H1bs? You tell me.

  90. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    “This is probably the worst PR” blah bah. I am sorry, but how?

    Who cares about the feelings of Little Meghan and Little Harry, in a year when the Queen stood against six votes meant to fire the prime minister and prevent Brexit, thus allowing Boris fulfill the actual wishes of the people? Who knew the Queen would be the actual guardian of democracy?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    Who cares about the feelings of Little Meghan and Little Harry,

    Their feelings don't belong on television, whether you care or not.

  91. @Almost Missouri
    @PhysicistDave

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/03/05/unsolicited-advice-for-queen-elizabeth/

    tl;dr: Harry is likely a bastard (genealogical kind, not moral kind). Meghan is inadvertently rescuing the royal family from a serious quandary.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    I believe one of Diana’s security detail has said on the record and for attribution that she didn’t meet James Hewitt until 1986.

    And Harry’s so many steps from the throne that he’s in hardly any danger of ascending it.

    I suspect the real problem with her is that she’s an actress and was told, explicitly and implicitly, that attention-seeking behavior will not be rewarded.

  92. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are you guys watching Oprah's interview (on CBS) with Prince Harry&Meghan Markle?

    They're basically setting fire to the palace. This is probably the worst PR that the family has gotten since the days of Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1368749799432917001

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1368758494048976898

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1368777209251586049

    https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1368755208805900288

    Damn.

    In better news... It's a girl!

    https://twitter.com/BET/status/1368754458247725059

    Tldr Summary:

    -Markle was having suicidal thoughts.
    -The royal family was concerned about the baby's skin color.
    -Prince Charles won't take Harry's calls.
    -Harry has been cut off financially.
    -The next baby will be a girl.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jiminy, @PhysicistDave, @Supply and Demand, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Mike Tre, @mmack, @Chrisnonymous, @Dissident, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Art Deco

    It’s only bad PR if you assume the British public will have a reaction approximating that of the Oprah audience. Non ci credo. This pair are setting themselves on fire, not the rest of the family.

    If he has any sense, he’ll find a sales position in Toronto and she returns to performing, regional theatre if she cannot find screen parts. And as for talking to the media

  93. @Dacian Julien Soros
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "This is probably the worst PR" blah bah. I am sorry, but how?

    Who cares about the feelings of Little Meghan and Little Harry, in a year when the Queen stood against six votes meant to fire the prime minister and prevent Brexit, thus allowing Boris fulfill the actual wishes of the people? Who knew the Queen would be the actual guardian of democracy?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Who cares about the feelings of Little Meghan and Little Harry,

    Their feelings don’t belong on television, whether you care or not.

  94. @epebble
    @Polistra

    Oprah clarified today that it was not the Queen or Prince Phillip. Harry mentioned that it was not his grandparents - which means Harry heard it too.

    Replies: @Polistra

    which means Harry heard it too

    Harry will say and do exactly what his wife tells him to–no more, no less.

    Still no corroborating evidence of any kind.

  95. Another interesting question is to what degree sexual identity informs hiring as a result of similar identities. At my company, a gay male CEO was hired 9 years ago. This is the first male CEO of this particular company by the way. The previous CEO was a black woman who nearly drove the company to bankruptcy. Since then, the number of administrative positions and administrative support staff has changed significantly. Admittedly, not all staff is now gay or trans, but it has certainly more than doubled and the presumed next CEO upon retirement is also going to be a gay man who is a close friend of the current CEO. In terms of new hires, gay men seem to be the most common choice, while the straight men remaining in these positions since prior to this CEO are the only ones there. Most of the other non-gay adminstrative staff are non-white.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Claus Brinker

    It's a well-known fact that Hollywood is run by a Gay Mafia.

    So if you're a male who's an aspiring actor/musician/model/celebrity, it really helps to go to social events&parties that are being held at the homes of powerful Gay industry execs. That's where a lot of the social connections are forged and business is done. Also, if you're willing to offer sexual favors to the older Gay execs, they'll often take you on as a protege.

    This is why a shockingly high percentage of male celebs (with the notable exception of pro athletes) are Gay or Bisexual. However, the publicists of these celebs don't want you to know this, so they make up stories about how their particular celeb is constantly being hunted by "groupies." Creating an image that a celeb is a "womanizer" (lol) throws people off what's really happening behind the scenes.

    The widespread prevalence of Gay social-career networks in Hollywood is one of the best-kept secrets in America.

  96. @Jiminy
    @Dissident

    I was only joking, as the same thing happened to me the day earlier. The site kept going to a 505 page. I thought it looked like the Unz site might have been taken down. But strangely the posting still went through every time. Later on somebody took the duplicate posts down for me though.

    Replies: @Dissident

    I was only joking,

    Thanks. I perhaps should have at least suspected as much.

    the same thing happened to me the day earlier.

    Happens to the best of us, including Mr. Sailer himself.

  97. @Claus Brinker
    Another interesting question is to what degree sexual identity informs hiring as a result of similar identities. At my company, a gay male CEO was hired 9 years ago. This is the first male CEO of this particular company by the way. The previous CEO was a black woman who nearly drove the company to bankruptcy. Since then, the number of administrative positions and administrative support staff has changed significantly. Admittedly, not all staff is now gay or trans, but it has certainly more than doubled and the presumed next CEO upon retirement is also going to be a gay man who is a close friend of the current CEO. In terms of new hires, gay men seem to be the most common choice, while the straight men remaining in these positions since prior to this CEO are the only ones there. Most of the other non-gay adminstrative staff are non-white.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s a well-known fact that Hollywood is run by a Gay Mafia.

    So if you’re a male who’s an aspiring actor/musician/model/celebrity, it really helps to go to social events&parties that are being held at the homes of powerful Gay industry execs. That’s where a lot of the social connections are forged and business is done. Also, if you’re willing to offer sexual favors to the older Gay execs, they’ll often take you on as a protege.

    This is why a shockingly high percentage of male celebs (with the notable exception of pro athletes) are Gay or Bisexual. However, the publicists of these celebs don’t want you to know this, so they make up stories about how their particular celeb is constantly being hunted by “groupies.” Creating an image that a celeb is a “womanizer” (lol) throws people off what’s really happening behind the scenes.

    The widespread prevalence of Gay social-career networks in Hollywood is one of the best-kept secrets in America.

  98. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @The Alarmist


    Anyone who has seen an IT department or consulting firm either run by or with hiring mangers who are Indian(dot, not feather) has already seen this in spades.
     
    My experiences confirm this absolutely.

    The tail end of my career found me consecutively working in three different venues, a private company with about thirty employees, another private company with about fifty to one hundred employees, and the public health department of a major northeastern state. All were heavily technology dependent. By the time I arrived each had begun employing Indian H-1b computer techs at various levels.

    The upper level managers in each organization claimed that they recruited H-1b Indians because they couldn't find competent native-born tech workers. This was crap. There was plenty of competent and experienced native-born and US trained talent available but their required salaries were commensurate with their skill and training.

    In fact most of the H-1b hires were barely competent, if that. However, they were cheap and docile workers, compliant to the point of ass-licking. Ultimately, any remaining, native-born and US educated technical staff were an essential backup to fix the invariably defective code and systems these hires created. Although it was far from as good as it could have been, the resulting ramshackle system functioned enough to provide cover for senior management. As a bonus, the H-1bs also served as a bulwark against unionizing technical workers and exercising the power of existing unions.

    The worst impact of these Indian hires occurred years after they were first hired. Their ass-licking skills got many of them management positions. Once they obtained such a position, they revealed a whole new level of incompetence. They treated subordinates like dirt. They evaded the usual responsibilities of management, handing of all real work to subordinates, usual creating chaos and dysfunction in the process.

    Their incompetence and nastiness soon drove out the more competent, native-born staff. The Indian mangers more often than not replaced these with hires of further Indians, all of whom were usually far less competent than those they replaced and many of whom turned out to have familial and social ties with the Indian who hired them.

    This process has been eroding the USA's base of technical expertise for several decades now. I fear that it may be too late to halt the process. More than a few intelligent, native-born, young Americans have told me that they avoided a technical major in college precisely because they saw the unfair competition created by current hiring practices in technical fields. We are truly morphing into a third-world country at every level.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Malla

    The way they/we infiltrate and take over sounds like how a virus takes over a host cell.
    I had been warning from the very beginning that if a first world host society is not extremely selective in Third World people immigration (reasonable IQ, high trust/ high moral character, agreeable, no chip on the shoulder w.r.t the West and Whitey etc… ) and keeping numbers extremely low (with those strict criterion, the numbers would have been very low by default, LOL), the host First World country would inevitably turn into a third world nation. And yes Jews are included among these “Third World Peoples”.

  99. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dissident


    Can you tell us why any of us who are neither related to this family nor have any vested interest in any members or branches thereof should care at all about any of this?
     
    There is a worrisome tendency in the Anglosphere to dismiss the sister countries, particularly the US and the UK (and Canada in the US), then blindly and stupidly adopting the worst aspects of the dismissed lands. Between Wallis and Meghan, there were Chuck Berry and Madonna.

    Canada has learned nothing about race from America, and America nothing about language from Canada. (BTW, what good has "official English" ever done for them? They have a century and a half experience with it.)

    A living face on the money is a good daily reminder of whence the nation came. William and George are each more English than their parents, and Charles won't be there that long-- assuming he survives his mother. (George III was the grandson of George II.)

    Monarchy has its advantages, and is a lot more important than moderns give it credit for.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Malla

    Monarchy has its advantages, and is a lot more important than moderns give it credit for.

    Prof. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a scholar of Russian Orthodox history and philosophy. He completed his doctorate at the University of Nebraska at Lincoln in 1999. He is a former professor of both history and political science at the University of Nebraska (as a graduate student), Penn State University and Mount St. Mary’s University. Since 1999, he was the editor (and is presently Senior Researcher) at The Barnes Review, a well-known renegade journal of European history. He lost his job at St. Mary’s University because he made his students read “The Myth of the 20th Century” by Alfred Rosenberg. And his students protested the decision to have him dismissed, he was the most popular history Prof there.

    Prof Johnson, after studying European history, came to the conclusion that you either have a strong Monarchy/leader or you have a Oligarchy behind the scenes. That is it. All else is bullshit. According to him the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth where Jews were used as tax farmers to exploit the peasants, was never a strong monarchy but a oligarchy of nobles behind the scenes. Tsarists Russia on the other hand was a strong monarchy.

    One can read some of his writings here
    https://thewardenpost.net/author/raphael/

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