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In my Taki’s Magazine column last week, “Last Men Standing: Charles Murray vs. Ibram X. Kendi,” I wrote:

Today, after 55 years of vast spending to eliminate the race gap on tests, the optimistic centrist education reformers of the “All We Have To Do Is Implement My Favorite Panacea” school are finally out of fashion, leaving Ibram X. Kendi and Charles Murray as the last men standing. One or the other must be right: either Murray (blacks, unfortunately, have problems because they tend to be less smart and more violent) or Kendi (any disparities demonstrate that whites are evil and therefore must pay).

From The Atlantic this week:

Our New Postracial Myth

The postracial idea is the most sophisticated racist idea ever produced.

By Ibram X. Kendi

JUNE 22, 2021

About the author: Ibram X. Kendi is a contributing writer at The Atlantic and the Andrew W. Mellon Professor in the Humanities and the director of the Boston University Center for Antiracist Research. He is the author of several books, including the National Book Award–winning Stamped From the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America and How to Be an Antiracist .

… The cause of racial inequity is either racist policy or racial hierarchy. The racial problem is the result of bad policies or bad people. … Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.

Then Dr. Kendi expresses his deep frustration that not everybody believes him and his fellow Professors of Intersectology.

Our multiracial, multidisciplinary, multisectoral guild remains as indistinct on the streets of the U.S. as my favorite restaurant was 13 years ago. We don’t have a name. We don’t hold up signs displaying our expertise. To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go “too far.”

We are The Experts, dammit:

Because everyone, apparently, is an authority on damn near everything. I can tell an astrophysicist that she is wrong about the existence of extrasolar planets, and she can tell me that I am wrong about the existence of racism. Humility is dead. Expertise is losing out to the world of make-believe, where everyone knows it all, where the climate isn’t changing, where vaccines aren’t saving lives, where teaching our kids the truth is harmful, where anti-poverty programs aren’t better crime fighters than cops, where assault rifles aren’t used to commit mass murder, where Nikole Hannah-Jones doesn’t deserve tenure, where the 2020 election wasn’t legitimate, and where the original postracial project didn’t produce the infernal Trump presidency.

To use W. E. B. Du Bois’s words, “lies agreed upon” are king. Ignorance preyed upon is king. Patriotism as racism is king. The conspiracy theory is king.

 
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  1. And when reparations don’t fix the inequality, what will Kendi write then? Of course, that it wasn’t enough.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @Yancey Ward

    It's like white people keep placing a bet, and every time it loses they place a bigger one.

    You can only give them everything. What will you give them after that?

    , @bomag
    @Yancey Ward

    ...and that it wasn't enough by a factor of 10; then by a factor of 100...

    , @usNthem
    @Yancey Ward

    Nothing will ever be enough until blacks are running the entire show, top to bottom. When the inevitable failures across the system then multiply, it’ll still be our fault. There is absolutely no winning with these creatures.

    , @SMK
    @Yancey Ward

    "(T)o say something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas." Under this definition, Kendi is a "racist." But, of course," blacks can't be racists."

    , @AceDeuce
    @Yancey Ward

    This grifting colored boy BS artist and his ilk need to be treated like the carnies/crooked timeshare salesmen that they are. In the middle of their pathetic lying spiel, a loud FK YOU! should be shouted, followed by a "GTFO with your BS fairy tales". If they get chesty and want to act bad, neutralize the threat "by any means necessary".

    Jumped up primitive morons like these are going to need drastic measures to get them to get in line--and that will be partial and temporary, thereby unsatisfactory.

    , @SMK
    @Yancey Ward

    In all of their appearances (debates, interviews, speeches, discussions), has even one person asked the likes of Kendi or Dyson or T. Coates or the Rev. Al an obvious question: If all the maladies and problems of blacks in the US are explained, or dramatically exacerbated, by "systemic racism" and "white supremacy, how do you explain the lives of blacks in Haiti and the countries of sub-Saharan Africa?

    Haiti, for example, has been ruled by blacks and blacks alone for well over 200-years since the revolt and mass-murder of whites in 1804. How is life in Haiti, the most hellish, primitive, benighted, and impoverished nation in the Western Hemisphere, explained by"systemic racism" and "white supremacy"? Are the ghosts of the French they slaughtered -not only the men who enslved them but also women, many who were pregnatn, children, infants- to blame for the hell that is Haiti over 200-years after their "liberation" rather than their low-average intelligence, and other intrinsic characteristics, which largely explain why all black-ruled nations and black-majority cities in the US and elsewhere are hell-holes with vastly disproportionate rates of violence, criminality, poverty, illegitimacy, etc., in relation to "Asians" and Europeans?

  2. where assault rifles aren’t used to commit mass murder,

    uh, that would be handguns.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

    • Replies: @bomag
    @James Speaks

    Every statement he makes here has a problematic aspect, but he can't be bothered to consider the other side, if he is even able to consider other facts and points of view.

    Another reminder that his ilk likes the simple minded and severe ethos of the police state.

    , @SMK
    @James Speaks

    Ironically, almost everthing he says about whites as a group and their "racism" is true of himself and other "theorists" of "critical race theory" and "intersectionality." And. to lesser degree, of blacks generally. To elaborate, point by point, would be exhausting and monotonous.

    Replies: @James Speaks

  3. • Replies: @El Dato
    @Achilleus

    https://i.postimg.cc/J7y79c0H/Bugs-Bunny-is-rather-racist.png

    Replies: @Neuday

  4. “To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go ‘too far.’”

    This simple-minded fellow seems to get awfully pouty when people do not agree with him 100% down the line. He seems absolutely flabbergasted that people do not wholly accept his ideas concerning “remedies and reparations”. The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???

    • Agree: bomag, Old Prude, Seneca44
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @PaceLaw

    The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking.

    Being given $10 million for your ideas could have that unfortunate effect.

    , @Forbes
    @PaceLaw

    Harry beat me to it. The amount of money showered on him has to result in a Teflon and bulletproof ego.

    But I wonder, how can the former Ibram Henry Rogers, under the guise of Ibram X. Kendi (self-identity/self-invention much?), accept the "named" professorship of a white man, Andrew W. Mellon??

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @PaceLaw

    "The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???"

    The inevitable TV movie, or Hollywood blockbuster (or "blackbuster" as Archie Bunker once called real estate sharpie trying to scare his neighbors into selling because of the Jeffersons moving in) on the life of Dr. K should star Glenn Howerton of "It's Always Sunny". It's even diverse casting!

    https://youtu.be/BXFThPcYGAE

    , @ThreeCranes
    @PaceLaw


    "The last U.S. census slave schedules were enumerated by County in 1860 and included 393,975 named persons holding 3,950,546 unnamed slaves, or an average of about ten slaves per holder. The actual number of slaveholders may be slightly lower because some large holders held slaves in more than one County and they would have been counted as a separate slaveholder in each County. Excluding slaves, the 1860 U.S. population was 27,167,529, with about 1 in 70 being a slaveholder. It is estimated by this transcriber that in 1860, slaveholders of 200 or more slaves, while constituting less than 1 % of the total number of U.S. slaveholders, or 1 out of 7,000 free persons, held 20-30% of the total number of slaves in the U.S."
     
    from the MSGen Web Project.

    That's right, you're eyes aren't deceiving you. Only 1 out of 70 citizens of the USA in 1860 owned slaves. And as many whites immigrated to the USA since 1860 as lived here then. That means, that if each group bred true (slave owners and non-slave owners--not plausible, I know, but a necessary assumption to grasp the essential point) then only one out of 140 Americans are descended from slaveowners--and some of those slave owners were black!. So, fewer than 1 out of 140 American whites are descended from former slave owners.

    And we whites are expected to pay reparations? For what? For the simple coincidence of having lived in the USA at the same time as African blacks? There's no more cogent causal connection than that; that's the best they've got. You're white, your ancestors lived in America, now hand over the dough.

    That's extortion. Or highway robbery. Either way, crimes. And inasmuch as criminal behavior is common among blacks, Ibram X. Kendi is simply behaving true to Form. And this greed for an easy, fast buck is precisely why blacks accrue so little wealth.

    Replies: @anon, @Elli, @John Milton’s Ghost

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @PaceLaw

    "It exists when people believe us. It doesn't exist when people don't believe us."

    Maybe we just can't grasp Kendi's genius.

    , @SMK
    @PaceLaw

    Savor the irony: pseudo-intellectual charlatans and mediocrities and psychotics like Kendi and T.Coates and their ilk are apotheosized by a culture and zeitgeist that they contend is defined by "systemic racism" and "white supremacy."

    , @profnasty
    @PaceLaw

    What am 'Free Shit'?

  5. The postracial idea is the most sophisticated racist idea ever produced.

    More and more sophisticated racist ideas keep coming, and anything new that we don’t like (or anything old we’ve just discovered)…well you know they’re just more sophisticated. The racism, it’s everywhere. When I close my eyes I see it on the inside of my eyelids.

    To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us.

    Everyone clap for Tinkerbelle! Or who knows what might happen, right?

    “lies agreed upon” are king.

    And even a stopped clock.

    • Agree: bomag
  6. We are The Experts, dammit

    We was kangz!!

    • LOL: PaceLaw
  7. Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy.

    Either I got a 1000 points on the SAT because I’m not that smart, or Bad Juju from white people is keeping me down.

    This might qualify for your best quotes by the way:

    As America becomes more sensitive to African ways of thinking, we are phasing out tired Eurocentric modes of thought such as the scientific method in favor of vibrant new ways of explaining unfortunate outcomes, such as Systemic Racism and/or Bad Juju.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Some Guy

    I will scream at the next conservative who blames our problems on "the Enlightenment". CRT is based on Frankfurt School "critical theory" which rejected ... the Enlightenment. As Spengler predicted, the blacks are picking up the White man's tools and using them against him.

    "As America becomes more sensitive to African ways of thinking, we are phasing out tired Eurocentric modes of thought such as the scientific method in favor of vibrant new ways of explaining unfortunate outcomes, such as Systemic Racism and/or Bad Juju."

    Conservatives only dislike this because THEIR Juju was supposed to be the replacement: Mediaeval Christianity a la E Michael Jones.

    Note: Read Marcuse's One Dimensional Man for the discussion of how the system uses acronyms to disguise or bury what were once real alternatives, like AFL/CIO. In this case, "CRT" is used to hide the debt to Critical Theory (too Jewish).

  8. The cause of racial inequity is either racist policy or racial hierarchy.

    Because! I! Say! So!

    The racial problem is the result of bad policies or bad people.

    Because! I! Say! So!

    Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy.

    Does being lazy, stupid, and superstitious mean something’s wrong with them?

    I wouldn’t go that far, Ibram–would you? What would that make you, then?

    • Replies: @Polemos
    @Polistra

    If you think Kendi is making an "I Say So" argument, do you think Sailer is making that argument, too? I mean, he's saying that Kendi makes his own point . . . in the title.

  9. ” Humility is dead.” – Ibram X. Kendi

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Thanks: profnasty
  10. Up to a point, I agree with Henry Rogers (if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”): either something is wrong with blacks – they are less intelligent and more criminal; or it only appears that way because reasons.

    Beyond that point we diverge.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Achilleus


    if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”
     
    That's how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won't even use it themselves.

    Côte d'Ivoire and Timor Leste at least have the excuse of lessening confusion. And they're in colonial languages.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @Catdog, @Muggles, @Česko, @Rob McX

    , @anonymous
    @Achilleus

    Nothing is "wrong" with Blacks. Their forced introduction into the world beyond Sub-Saharan Africa on the other hand..........

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous, @Larugula

    , @al gore rhythms
    @Achilleus

    In the end, the argument about 'maybe it's culture and not race' made no difference. As this article makes clear, any disparity between the races can only be the result of racism. Saying that it might be cultural factors holding groups back is just a racist.

    , @Desiderius
    @Achilleus

    By what standard of wrong?

    The conservatives you elect to represent you chafe at the idea of any standards whatsoever. They're content to let the marketplace decide. At least those marketplaces owned by their donors.

    Likewise you say wrong as an absolute but your standards are relative. Is there something wrong with whites that you're less intelligent and more criminal than Asians? With Asians relative to a machine?

    , @NOTA
    @Achilleus

    Reality is usually messier than good rhetoric.

    Some black/white differences are genetic in origin, some are cultural, some are based on their situation. For example, the high rate of illegitimacy among blacks is clearly cultural and may largely be a knock-on effect of how early welfare programs were designed. The geographical distribution of blacks is largely driven by slavery and later oppressive laws sending a large
    diaspora of Southern blacks up to Northern cities. The higher rate of high blood pressure and heart disease among blacks is probably genetic in origin (though aggravated by cultural stuff like a Southern diet).

    To understand the world, you have to care more about being right in each specific case than you do about soaring rhetoric. I haven't read Kendi's books, but my impression of him is that he cares a lot about soaring rhetoric. I have read a bunch of Murray's books, and he clearly cares about understanding the world.

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Art Deco

  11. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.

    Either black men are six or eight or ten times as likely to be denied a handgun permit as white men because they misbehave more– or the inequity is caused by racist policy. The need to have a permit to possess a handgun is thus inherently racist policy.

    Unless you listen to George Takei’s boy toy, Ladd Everitt:

    The racist charge

    Debunking the ‘gun control is racist’ smear”

    Josh Horwitz quoted and Ladd Everitt mentioned by Salon
    Is Gun Control Racist?

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Reg Cæsar

    Arrests are racist:

    "Protesters Gather Outside Rock Hill Police Department After Video Surfaces Showing Arrest Of 2 Black Men"

    https://www.wccbcharlotte.com/2021/06/23/protesters-gather-outside-rock-hill-police-department-after-video-surfaces-showing-arrest-of-2-black-men/

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1407930241583136772

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Reg Cæsar

    That's pretty good - gun control is racist.

    These guys are canceling themselves!!

    https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/greta-thunberg-new-zealand-school-strike-b1866457.html

  12. We don’t hold up signs displaying our expertise.

    Oh you do, but you don’t actually have any.

    • Agree: profnasty
  13. Ibram X. Kendi Makes My Point for Me

    So be it. It will not make much of a difference, because Dr. Ibram X. Kendi is able to play a superior trick on you, Mr. host: To say something without knowing it. – Now the ball is in your field. You’re simply not capable of such sophistication, are ya? – See – – the trendy / Dr. Kendi-brother comes out ahead of you in this one, ya old sribbler of trash / forgotten paper-scratcher. Hehe.

    Ron Pagett / Poem
    …Personality no good
    All surface no inner strength
    I might die an old man
    Scribbler of trash
    Forgotten paper-scratcher …

    • Replies: @Toteswoke
    @Dieter Kief

    What?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  14. I stopped visiting The Atlantic‘s website. They’ve been phoning it in for a long time now. If the articles aren’t already being churned out by an AI program they certainly will be soon, the content is so predictable.

    • LOL: Hans
    • Replies: @Hans
    @photondancer

    I used to take the Atlantic, but my proctologist insisted I stop. Things have improved since.

  15. He forgot to add “Blacks aren’t likely to score 12 to 15 points less than whites on IQ tests”…

  16. RAnyone catch the Olympic trials? Saw some Sunday evening. Damn,the stadium was beautiful. It was a little slice of heaven,all these people trying out,a few making it.
    Several of the black sprinters thanked God for their success. They seemed like such nice people. If I watch the Olympics,yeah,ill cheer for them.😃
    Anyway,I was a bit shocked at how these track events broke down by race. Either black Americans run faster than whites or racism!!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Right. It's almost as if one race is inferior at 100m and the other at 10000m (not counting East Africans).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  17. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.

    The usual out here is to claim that black underperformance is “cultural” and that this is a legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. So even though things have improved, the reverberations of past discrimination are still felt. This shifts the blame to whites who are no longer alive.

    Maybe some people still believe that. But sixty years after civil rights and affirmative action, I don’t think anyone deep down expects outcomes to ever equalize. To improve black outcomes you’d need to implement more “white supremacy” (i.e., imposition of white standards of behavior), not less. Elimination of “white supremacy” means no standards and that means further black degeneration. To produce actual “equality” between blacks and whites, you’d have to put whites in concentration camps or something.

    • Replies: @Achilleus
    @gregor


    To produce actual “equality” between blacks and whites, you’d have to put whites in concentration camps or something.
     
    Easy, now…
    , @profnasty
    @gregor

    Don't think (They) haven't thought of that.

  18. It’s much worse than partisan. It’s gotten this bad because it was mistaken for partisan and opposition was foolishly phrased in those terms.

    They didn’t kick things off with a grandma with no criminal record who was given an inquisitor instead of a public defender because they wanted to gain sympathy for their cause or to win over voters. Simultaneously Biden taunted the citizenry with threats of nukes and mocking of appeals to the statements of the Founders.

    This is a campaign of terror. Shock and Awe.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Desiderius


    She, like many students, preferred to take the cinematic route. “I chose the movie whenever possible because it sinks in better,” she wrote.
     
    Well, don't go into Room 237 and we haven't even discussed the Middle East for the (((benefit of))) yet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1InCfpuD4ow

    Didn't Brian Aldiss write that "genocide is standard activity between the two main human genera" (it was in some some mystic story involving Jesus)

    , @Old Prude
    @Desiderius

    Who killed Ashli Babbitt? Keep asking.

  19. @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    RAnyone catch the Olympic trials? Saw some Sunday evening. Damn,the stadium was beautiful. It was a little slice of heaven,all these people trying out,a few making it.
    Several of the black sprinters thanked God for their success. They seemed like such nice people. If I watch the Olympics,yeah,ill cheer for them.😃
    Anyway,I was a bit shocked at how these track events broke down by race. Either black Americans run faster than whites or racism!!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Right. It’s almost as if one race is inferior at 100m and the other at 10000m (not counting East Africans).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    It’s almost as if one race is inferior at 100m and the other at 10000m (not counting East Africans).
     
    Why count East Africans? They are clearly another race, sharing only skin color. But so do Tamils and Papuans.
  20. The goal of CivNats is to save the current Establishment. That’s what Charles Murray and Steve support. They want to help them keep credibility by getting them to be more realistic about race, but avoid bringing about an actual pro-White politics.

    Why? I dunno.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That's barely keeping up.

    Is that on Cape Cod? In Plymouth days, six couples would have begotten sixty. Had both of each couple lived.

    At least everyone in the picture is white, just as in Plymouth days. No Metacomets or Jemimas.

    Replies: @Bill P, @RichardTaylor, @PiltdownMan, @Barnard

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @RichardTaylor

    "They want to help them keep credibility by getting them to be more realistic about race, but avoid bringing about an actual pro-White politics."

    In the Current Year, is that strategy sustainable, given the realities of CRT, Woke Politics, etc? The answer is no.

    Because normie whites can look around and see every single other racial group being permitted to have racial pride in their race per se, and that Uncle Sam even encourages it, and yet they are the one group that is not only not permitted to have racial pride, but they are explicitly targeted for being white, then what conclusion are they expected to come to? And they are expected to tolerate this situation forever going forward, and some are beginning to question why they should be content and satisfied with this current arrangement, where every single action that they do is racist and that they as whites are permanently on trial for something that they have no control over (their race).

    Unfortunately, people like Charles Murray are still mentally living in the late '80's, early '90's, when the Bell Curve was first released. It is people like Murray that will blink and fold up when directly challenged by Kendi to "prove" that he is not personally a racist, and that his entire body of work isn't racist ipso facto, because after all, Murray himself isn't a POC, so why should anyone trust his work?

    I once made mention that Steve is in a similar situation to the great sixteenth century scholar Erasmus: caught in the crossfires of a new revolutionary way of viewing the world (in his case, it was the Protestant Reformation), while trying to preserve the older, traditional way of thinking. (e.g. the US should preserve the colorblind society idea that was so popular as an idea during mid. century US). Well, that way is gone, perhaps forever. And so too is the notion of a post-racial society.


    Civic Nationalism only made sense during the time period it was used in practice: ca. 1945-1992. Since then it hasn't been a viable option, period. And things over the past decade have indicated that the US isn't going to return to Civ. Nat. anytime soon.

    Perhaps in its final analysis, Civic Nationalism only worked when the US had little to no immigration, and the population was well over 80% white. These were the observations of the late Sam Francis decades ago. He forewarned precisely where these things would lead to.

    Question: What exactly did Charles Murray say regarding Sam Francis' warnings about early CRT? Did he embrace Sam Francis' warnings, or did he at the time, do like all the rest and call him a racist, fearmonger, so far off reality (it couldn't possibly happen in the US), etc.

    Charles Murray genuinely appears dumbfounded that these problems are coming to a head in the public square, when he apparently wasn't paying attention when Sam Francis, Joseph Sobran, Jared Taylor, even Pat Buchanan were sounding the alarm regarding these problems a couple of decades ago. Wonder why he couldn't be bothered decades ago, or couldn't have lent his voice to the problems coming just over the horizon? Was it because these aforementioned people were considered racist and thus outside the pale of conversation, but now that Charles Murray is mentioning these things, then that now suddenly makes it a-okay to bring the topics up?

    What will people like Abrahim Kendi conclude about Charles Murray's bringing up these things, the same things that Francis, Sobran, Taylor, etc brought up decades ago?

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @ATBOTL

  21. OT,but this is a bit shocking. John McAfee,the virus guy, has been found dead in his jail cell in Spain. I’ve followed his (mis)adventures in Latin America. Somehow he wound up in Spain and supposedly committed suicide.
    Strange!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    McAfee was going to be extradited to the US for tax evasion. Trump fixed the Lois Lerner policies at the IRS (a conservative legal group won a consent decree making them stop targeting by ideology) and Biden's handlers are reversing all that. The IRS will go back to what it was doing under Obama.
    So maybe it was suicide.

    , @Muggles
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk


    OT,but this is a bit shocking. John McAfee,the virus guy, has been found dead in his jail cell in Spain. I’ve followed his (mis)adventures in Latin America. Somehow he wound up in Spain and supposedly committed suicide.
    Strange!
     
    Not so strange. He was "on the run" in various places outside of the US for the last several years. IRS tax problems.

    He would tweet or online brag about being "free" but was just on the run from US tax laws and extradition. At age 75 he wanted to write his own ending, not die in 10 years in some federal prison cell. Being extradited to the US by Spanish authorities.

    Of course despite his talk of "freedom" it was always about him. Not you. Sad ending but not sinister. Who would bother killing him? Just another sociopath/narcissist/histrionic personality who finally ran into reality the hard way.

    You can run, but not hide, from the US tax monster. Like the mafia, you gotta pay their tax.

    Replies: @profnasty

  22. @Achilleus
    Up to a point, I agree with Henry Rogers (if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”): either something is wrong with blacks - they are less intelligent and more criminal; or it only appears that way because reasons.

    Beyond that point we diverge.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Desiderius, @NOTA

    if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”

    That’s how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won’t even use it themselves.

    Côte d’Ivoire and Timor Leste at least have the excuse of lessening confusion. And they’re in colonial languages.

    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    @Reg Cæsar

    Whoa there, Bubba: https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2016-01-01.html#06

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Catdog
    @Reg Cæsar

    Why doesn't this logic apply to Germany and Japan? By which I mean Deutschland and Nippon.

    , @Muggles
    @Reg Cæsar


    That’s how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won’t even use it themselves.
     
    The thing about place names (or names of tribes, groups, etc.) is that they nearly always change over time.

    Just look at an old map or atlas. Sometimes the old names come back into reuse but often new ones pop up.

    Also, as you should know, names in foreign languages get translated differently over time due to newer rules and conventions. Sometimes there is politics, other times just more phonetically correct.

    I don't care for these changes but life is about change.

    Of course since our recent Year Zero the supposed 'mainstream' media has been slavishly following the Woke line on this. So all kinds of bogus changes are now seen in "journalism" turned Soviet style. This is usually just to annoy the non Woke or force them into new language. That's another Orwellian modern fad.

    Language in general also changes. Few can readily read something written in American English even 200 years old.

    I'll be happy when the AP style "guide" (Commissar Edition) lets White be capitalized or Black be uncapitalized.
    , @Česko
    @Reg Cæsar

    The hill you chose to die on says a lot about you. Since you're so good with words, I suggest you come up with your own designations of horrible country names, such as Russia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Albania, Georgia, Armenia, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Australia, Bolivia etc. Good thing Germany isn't called Germania anymore.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    Belarus was mostly referred to as Byelorussia before it got its present name. Its international car registration code - BY - seems to reflect that (all the letters on car registration plates of European countries have to use either Roman letters or - in the case of the Cyrillic or Greek alphabet - those letters of the alphabet that resemble Roman ones).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  23. @Steve Sailer
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Right. It's almost as if one race is inferior at 100m and the other at 10000m (not counting East Africans).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It’s almost as if one race is inferior at 100m and the other at 10000m (not counting East Africans).

    Why count East Africans? They are clearly another race, sharing only skin color. But so do Tamils and Papuans.

  24. @RichardTaylor
    The goal of CivNats is to save the current Establishment. That's what Charles Murray and Steve support. They want to help them keep credibility by getting them to be more realistic about race, but avoid bringing about an actual pro-White politics.

    Why? I dunno.

    https://irishamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/White-Family-Photo.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That’s barely keeping up.

    Is that on Cape Cod? In Plymouth days, six couples would have begotten sixty. Had both of each couple lived.

    At least everyone in the picture is white, just as in Plymouth days. No Metacomets or Jemimas.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Reg Cæsar

    Better than nothing, I guess.

    Kind of a stretch to compare those women to Plymouth settlers. Can you imagine them grinding corn, milking cattle and hoeing gardens with three kids under six in the house? I think they'd probably expire within a month. Of course, a lot of women back then did just that.

    Maybe that one on the right in the blue could handle it. She looks fairly sturdy.

    The early settlers were a different breed from today's upper middle class. And they were only in charge for a few generations before the merchants overturned their rules and marginalized their community.

    People often blame the Puritans for this or that, but when I looked into the history I was surprised to see how quickly they were superseded by commercial and progressive factions. By the 18th century they were little more than a relic.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Reg Cæsar

    , @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    White families have to be small due to the government policies that force White Flight. They have to be ready to flee at any time.

    You're aware of those policies, you've fled several times.

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That’s barely keeping up.
     
    In the future, all white families will be Mormon families (with 5% black adoptees.) And likely have the last name Romney.

    https://i.imgur.com/p1IZWl9.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @bomag, @Anon, @Peter D. Bredon

    , @Barnard
    @Reg Cæsar

    The oldest couple is obvious the grandparents, so that is five couples producing 12 grandchildren for them so far. From the looks the picture it is unlikely they are all done having kids at the point it was taken. The three mothers on the right all look young enough to have more kids. Even if they only get to 18 that isn't reproducing at the same rate their parents did, but 3.6 is still not only well above average, but above replacement level.

  25. Whites have already been forced to pay tens of trillions of dollars in reparations.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  26. Put another way: It is either nature or nurture.

    Or some combination. Unless you recognize that both are possible causes, and you are quantifying the causal factors, then you are not moving towards a valid explanation.

  27. The cause of racial inequity is either racist policy or racial hierarchy. The racial problem is the result of bad policies or bad people. … Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.

    This really is the crux of it and it’s this dichotomy (which then led me to iSteve back then) red-pilled me to HBD about a decade ago.

    The observational studies have been done. The intervention studies have been done. Over and over. And it’s all been done by liberals and progressives, because they’ve owned sociology and education for many decades now.

    After all that those really ARE the only two options. And looking at all the studies and interventions it’s clear that Murray is more right and Kendi and the rest of the wokes are mostly wrong.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @vhrm

    Why validate his dishonest language? "Different" and "wrong" mean different things. There isn't anything "wrong" with Indians for not being highly represented among elite global track and field stars. Nor is it "wrong" for black Americans to have a median 85 IQ. It is what it is.

    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, "racist policy," or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the "racist" white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn't serve to shake down whites for eternity.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @bomag, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @vhrm

    , @Forbes
    @vhrm

    The cause of racial inequity is diversity--difference. And the dilemma, if one views diversity or difference as such, is the ASSUMPTION that no differential outcomes as between racial (or ethnic) groups should occur, e.g. achievement, employment, prosperity, et al.

    Kendi is just another vendor of a magic elixir or potion "guaranteed" to cure "what ails you." It doesn't have to work (caveat emptor)--you just have to buy it. Like any cult con, he needs Kool-Aid drinkers to keep the game going. Worse than being conned--is admitting you were conned...

    , @Bannon
    @vhrm

    I was always willing to believe the apparent differences in people groups along lines of academic achievement (i.e. test scores) and violent crime was potentially due to circumstances. That is, until the modern Identarian Left forced me to choose between (1) innate group differences or (2) white racism as causes.

    I used to think it was bad strategy by them -- after all, why would I choose the option that I know to be false (that white people are causing black problems) when it goes against my family, my children, my whole community?

    But then sometimes now I think they know what they are doing -- they want to bring about a showdown. Because they've figured that most of western civilization will choose collective suicide over thinking the Unthinkable Truth.

    Replies: @vhrm

  28. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That's barely keeping up.

    Is that on Cape Cod? In Plymouth days, six couples would have begotten sixty. Had both of each couple lived.

    At least everyone in the picture is white, just as in Plymouth days. No Metacomets or Jemimas.

    Replies: @Bill P, @RichardTaylor, @PiltdownMan, @Barnard

    Better than nothing, I guess.

    Kind of a stretch to compare those women to Plymouth settlers. Can you imagine them grinding corn, milking cattle and hoeing gardens with three kids under six in the house? I think they’d probably expire within a month. Of course, a lot of women back then did just that.

    Maybe that one on the right in the blue could handle it. She looks fairly sturdy.

    The early settlers were a different breed from today’s upper middle class. And they were only in charge for a few generations before the merchants overturned their rules and marginalized their community.

    People often blame the Puritans for this or that, but when I looked into the history I was surprised to see how quickly they were superseded by commercial and progressive factions. By the 18th century they were little more than a relic.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Bill P

    The past isn't just another country, its another planet. Pioneer women may have popped out six to ten children, but five would be dead within a year. That is if pioneer woman didn't die during child birth. Our area in southern Maine features old family and community cemeteries every half mile or so, most dating back to the late 1700s. The number of young women and infants in those cemeteries is remarkable. There is one fellow buried with his four wives: Three of them young, and one able to make it to old-age.

    The young men who are buried all died in the Civil War. Its always melancholy to see the grave stones of the ones who died in the first days, and the ones who died in the very last days.

    On the current planet the only young people in cemeteries are suicides and drunk drivers.

    Replies: @Ed, @S. Anonyia

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Can you imagine them grinding corn, milking cattle and hoeing gardens with three kids under six in the house?
     
    There were plenty of aunties around to help. And once the older kids reach their teens, a large family becomes easier to manage than a small one. Many hands make light work.
  29. Because everyone, apparently, is an authority on damn near everything. I can tell an astrophysicist that she is wrong about the existence of extrasolar planets, and she can tell me that I am wrong about the existence of racism. Humility is dead. Expertise is losing out to the world of make-believe,………

    Of course, Kendi is no kind of expert in anything except a bunch of made-up crap. He’s an expert in the same sense that a comic book fan-boy or Trekkie or Star Wars geek is an expert.

    But, anyway, even if he were – seriously – f**k experts. I’m tired of technocratic pricks telling me how to order my life and affairs. I’m tired of the white lab-coat brigade gaslighting me and telling me that the urine they just pissed on me is rain-water. I’m tired of “Health Care Heroes!”, in their stupid, schlumpy looking scrubs, and their Fauci-masks, presuming to lecture me about “The Science!”.

    Seriously…………F**k. Them. All.

    • Agree: Old Prude, Forbes
  30. @vhrm


    The cause of racial inequity is either racist policy or racial hierarchy. The racial problem is the result of bad policies or bad people. … Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.
     

     
    This really is the crux of it and it's this dichotomy (which then led me to iSteve back then) red-pilled me to HBD about a decade ago.

    The observational studies have been done. The intervention studies have been done. Over and over. And it's all been done by liberals and progressives, because they've owned sociology and education for many decades now.

    After all that those really ARE the only two options. And looking at all the studies and interventions it's clear that Murray is more right and Kendi and the rest of the wokes are mostly wrong.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Forbes, @Bannon

    Why validate his dishonest language? “Different” and “wrong” mean different things. There isn’t anything “wrong” with Indians for not being highly represented among elite global track and field stars. Nor is it “wrong” for black Americans to have a median 85 IQ. It is what it is.

    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, “racist policy,” or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn’t serve to shake down whites for eternity.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @AndrewR


    Differences between groups can be caused by genes, “racist policy,” or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man.
     
    That's well-stated.

    (A big reason Sailer isn't invited to the good Christmas parties is because he does discuss that third option, as long ago as Katrina and as recently as the Racial Wreckening. Hence the struck phrase.)

    The elite intellectuals who run Boston University could have recruited Tony Soprano to serve as Andrew W. Mellon Professor in the Humanities, for his pioneering work in founding the Italian-American Civil Rights League. Lacking courage and integrity, they elevated Dr. Kendi instead. The world is that much poorer for their choice.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @AndrewR


    they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man.
     
    This is a point Loury and McWhorter, Sowell, Williams, and others often return to. If we are to discuss framing, the internal locus of control correlates positively with success, external with failure. The so-called philosophy of Kendi is poisonous and he must be called out on it.

    Why validate his dishonest language? “Different” and “wrong” mean different things.
     
    Good call. Start with the language games.
    , @bomag
    @AndrewR

    Thanks.

    We're debating people who pretend differences are 100% social training, with no input from biology.

    They paint the opposition as claiming 100% genetic.

    Those who discuss both genes and culture are told to pick a side.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @AndrewR


    … mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man. [emphasis added]

     

    So—complete racial separation, except maybe allowing among Whites a few vetted, assimilated, psychologically sound ‘token’ Blacks who are pro-White?
    , @vhrm
    @AndrewR


    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, “racist policy,” or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn’t serve to shake down whites for eternity.
     
    There exists no known or postulated external or internal cultural change that would close the avg score gap on SATs between blacks and whites (or between whites and east Asians or jews and gentile whites).

    Getting some people not to carjack or shoot at crowds is certainly a mutable culture, but the majority of blacks (and latinos and whites and everyone else) already don do that. Same as most people don't get suspended from school.

    However, given a certain set of rules against violence and acting out enforced color blindly, you'll have more blacks breaking them than whites than asians. (and more men breaking them then women )

    Replies: @Desiderius

  31. From George Packer’s article in The Atlantic, “How America Fractured Into Four Parts”. Most of the article is pure dreck, but this section struck me as somewhat insightful:

    I’m exaggerating the suddenness of this new narrative, but not by much. Things changed astonishingly quickly after 2014, when Just America escaped campuses and pervaded the wider culture. First, the “softer” professions gave way. Book publishers released a torrent of titles on race and identity, which year after year won the most prestigious prizes. Newspapers and magazines known for aspiring to reportorial objectivity shifted toward an activist model of journalism, adopting new values and assumptions along with a brand-new language: systemic racism, white supremacy, white privilege, anti-Blackness, marginalized communities, decolonization, toxic masculinity. Similar changes came to arts organizations, philanthropies, scientific institutions, technology monopolies, and finally corporate America and the Democratic Party. The incontestable principle of inclusion drove the changes, which smuggled in more threatening features that have come to characterize identity politics and social justice: monolithic group thought, hostility to open debate, and a taste for moral coercion.

    The social-justice movement is a repudiation of meritocracy, a rebellion against the system handed down from parents to children. Students at elite universities no longer believe they deserve their coveted slots. Activists in New York want to abolish the tests that determine entry into the city’s most competitive high schools (where Asian American children now predominate). In some niche areas, such as literary magazines and graduate schools of education, the idea of merit as separate from identity no longer exists.

    But most Just Americans still belong to the meritocracy and have no desire to give up its advantages. They can’t escape its status anxieties—they’ve only transferred them to the new narrative. They want to be the first to adopt its expert terminology. In the summer of 2020, people suddenly began saying “BIPOC” as if they’d been doing it all their lives. (Black, Indigenous, and people of color was a way to uncouple groups that had been aggregated under people of color and give them their rightful place in the moral order, with people from Bogotá and Karachi and Seoul bringing up the rear.) The whole atmosphere of Just America at its most constricted—the fear of failing to say the right thing, the urge to level withering fire on minor faults—is a variation on the fierce competitive spirit of Smart America. Only the terms of accreditation have changed. And because achievement is a fragile basis for moral identity, when meritocrats are accused of racism, they have no solid faith in their own worth to stand on.

    The rules in Just America are different, and they have been quickly learned by older liberals following a long series of defenestrations at The New York Times, Poetry magazine, Georgetown University, the Guggenheim Museum, and other leading institutions. The parameters of acceptable expression are a lot narrower than they used to be. A written thought can be a form of violence. The loudest public voices in a controversy will prevail. Offending them can cost your career. Justice is power. These new rules are not based on liberal values; they are post-liberal.

    Just America’s origins in theory, its intolerant dogma, and its coercive tactics remind me of 1930s left-wing ideology. Liberalism as white supremacy recalls the Communist Party’s attack on social democracy as “social fascism.” Just American aesthetics are the new socialist realism.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/george-packer-four-americas/619012/

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Forbes
    @syonredux

    Packer is a standard bred left-liberal Democrat, who's trying to avoid cancellation by the woke mob.

    He had a small amount of red-pilling in NYC's school scrums. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/10/when-the-culture-war-comes-for-the-kids/596668/
    Covered elsewhere here: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-progressive-dystopia-of-nyc-schools/

  32. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That's barely keeping up.

    Is that on Cape Cod? In Plymouth days, six couples would have begotten sixty. Had both of each couple lived.

    At least everyone in the picture is white, just as in Plymouth days. No Metacomets or Jemimas.

    Replies: @Bill P, @RichardTaylor, @PiltdownMan, @Barnard

    White families have to be small due to the government policies that force White Flight. They have to be ready to flee at any time.

    You’re aware of those policies, you’ve fled several times.

  33. I can tell an astrophysicist that she is wrong about the existence of extrasolar planets, and she can tell me that I am wrong about the existence of racism.

    Only it takes IQ & hard work to become astrophysicst but it takes a discontent bottom feeder to become professional “racism finder general”. Also, one can actually detect extrasolar planets, but that’s just by the by.

    “Director of the Boston University Center for Antiracist Research”

    “Are your really negro enough for Antiracist Research, Brain?”

    • Agree: Old Prude
  34. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Steve’s podcast with James Kirkpatrick (the first 20 minutes at least) has been online since a couple of days ago, apparently. It doesn’t show up in all the Unz teaser lists for Steve’s stuff (because it’s double-linked to both Kirkpatrick’s and Steve’s accounts, bug?), so I missed it, and there are only three comments, so I was not the only one to miss it.

    Here’s the page for the podcast on Kirkpatrick’s feed.

    https://www.unz.com/article/sailer-and-kirkpatrick-on-bonfire-of-the-vanities-the-quintessential-new-york-novel-and-the-new-crusade-for-the-west/

    • Thanks: Desiderius
  35. @Achilleus
    https://i.imgflip.com/1gv8g1.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @El Dato

    It's been a long damned time since I saw a Black/White interaction where the Black appeared so ingratiating and the White so smug.

  36. A bit more than 2,000 years ago the Greeks built a mechanical computer known as the Antikythera Mechanism. It was devilishly complex, a design of true genius way beyond the imagination of even a Ibram X. Kendi. It gave a perfect representation of the position and phases of the moon and the 5 known planets. But it was wrong because it was based on the Ptolamaic idea that the earth was the center of the solar system. Still it worked so well it would take almost another 2000 years before the heliocentric solar system supplanted the ancient Greek model.

    The problem with ‘black scholars’ is that they study, almost exclusively, the writings of other negroes with a few sympathetic white liberal academics to give themselves a patina of erudition sufficient to prevent any but the bravest of whites from calling them what they are. Frauds and mountebanks.

    Unlike the ancient Greek scientists who could at least demonstrate with 100% precision the movements of the moon and planets across the night sky the modern negro social scientist can give no explanation for the below average performance of negroes other than to blame an inchoate but pervasive white racism. The negro is reduced to believing, with no evidence, that a super majority of white Americans get up everyday with the sole purpose in their life of preventing negroes from succeeding even as those same monstrous whites overlook negro substandard performance to admit them to THEIR finest universities. At some level the negro must recognize the scam otherwise why enroll in Harvard or Yale just to be held back and left academically stunted by a hostile and bigoted white faculty?

    Negroes best recognize how tiresome their complaints are getting and start accepting some responsibility for their chronic failure as systemic racism must, inevitably. be exposed as the wrong explanation as surely as the Greek view of the cosmos was.

  37. anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achilleus
    Up to a point, I agree with Henry Rogers (if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”): either something is wrong with blacks - they are less intelligent and more criminal; or it only appears that way because reasons.

    Beyond that point we diverge.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Desiderius, @NOTA

    Nothing is “wrong” with Blacks. Their forced introduction into the world beyond Sub-Saharan Africa on the other hand……….

    • Agree: El Dato, Anonymous Jew
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @anonymous

    Hiding the ball with passive voice again. It was the Bantu themselves (but not themselves alone! Not too much Lux and Veritas on this topic pls! You'll keep that Skull and those Bones in the closet and like it thank you very much!) who forced this and are now forcing you.

    , @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    Every distinct ancestry group is perfectly adapted to its on environs by definition.

    Downtown Chicago is not the perfect environment for low IQ high testosterone men. These traits contribute to impulse behavior which is related to criminality and violence, sexual license.


    Small rural communities of black in the warm south dont thrive particularly, but nor are they third world hellholes.

    , @Larugula
    @anonymous

    It seems odd that there has never been a mass exodus of blacks out of America.

  38. Ibram X. Kendi Retweeted:

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    @MEH 0910

    That´s the point methinks ...

    putting it into stark alternative is a way of intimidating goodWhites into saying
    "Of course it cannot be that blacks are lazy, stupid, violent and yucky"
    (wisely swallowing the "not only")

    ... then responding
    "Then by your own admission you are racist and must pay".

    The more over the top they get, the sooner people get fed up
    (Hope springs eternal :P ).

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  39. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That's barely keeping up.

    Is that on Cape Cod? In Plymouth days, six couples would have begotten sixty. Had both of each couple lived.

    At least everyone in the picture is white, just as in Plymouth days. No Metacomets or Jemimas.

    Replies: @Bill P, @RichardTaylor, @PiltdownMan, @Barnard

    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That’s barely keeping up.

    In the future, all white families will be Mormon families (with 5% black adoptees.) And likely have the last name Romney.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @PiltdownMan

    WAIT A SECOND!!...the "boys" are wearing blue check and the "girls "are wearing pink dresses.....TRANSPHOBIC!....I demand those children be given puberty blockers.....kidding!......maybe mittens could send his black child to spend time with Barack so he could learn how to be a real black man.......KIDDING!!....... again....

    , @bomag
    @PiltdownMan

    LOL

    I hope their politics pull back from Cuckservatism.

    , @Anon
    @PiltdownMan

    I remember when George Bush (not W) caught a lot of flak when he was talking about maybe his grandchildren and made a reference to one as "the brown one".

    Now, progressives (their description for themselves) delineate everything into white ppl or black ppl or brown ppl. Even so, if he did it today Bush would still be catching a lot of flack for it.

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @PiltdownMan

    There won't be any "white" families in the future, because the Mormon's Chief Prophet and Bottlewasher, or whatever he's called, got a message from God telling him that the negroes were equal.

    An irrational cult is no protection for white identity.

  40. @MEH 0910
    Ibram X. Kendi Retweeted:
    https://twitter.com/Eugene_Scott/status/1407643256406618112

    Replies: @nokangaroos

    That´s the point methinks …

    putting it into stark alternative is a way of intimidating goodWhites into saying
    “Of course it cannot be that blacks are lazy, stupid, violent and yucky”
    (wisely swallowing the “not only”)

    … then responding
    Then by your own admission you are racist and must pay”.

    The more over the top they get, the sooner people get fed up
    (Hope springs eternal 😛 ).

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @nokangaroos

    Kendi is over the top, that's right. But he is over the top in The Atlantic Magazine.

    - Maybe I could free myself off getting too negative here by reformulating the above sentence this way: Kendi is a star-writer now in what has once been "The Atlantic Magazine".

  41. @Yancey Ward
    And when reparations don't fix the inequality, what will Kendi write then? Of course, that it wasn't enough.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @bomag, @usNthem, @SMK, @AceDeuce, @SMK

    It’s like white people keep placing a bet, and every time it loses they place a bigger one.

    You can only give them everything. What will you give them after that?

  42. @Achilleus
    Up to a point, I agree with Henry Rogers (if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”): either something is wrong with blacks - they are less intelligent and more criminal; or it only appears that way because reasons.

    Beyond that point we diverge.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Desiderius, @NOTA

    In the end, the argument about ‘maybe it’s culture and not race’ made no difference. As this article makes clear, any disparity between the races can only be the result of racism. Saying that it might be cultural factors holding groups back is just a racist.

  43. This fool is a walking talking non sequitur, or should I say Non Sequitur.

  44. For a guy who’s not that bright, he’s certainly full of himself.

  45. Didn’t Obama himself declare early in his administration that he was the first Post-Racial President?

  46. @PaceLaw
    “To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go ‘too far.’”

    This simple-minded fellow seems to get awfully pouty when people do not agree with him 100% down the line. He seems absolutely flabbergasted that people do not wholly accept his ideas concerning “remedies and reparations”. The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Forbes, @Peter D. Bredon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @SMK, @profnasty

    The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking.

    Being given $10 million for your ideas could have that unfortunate effect.

    • Agree: photondancer
  47. @gregor

    Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.
     
    The usual out here is to claim that black underperformance is “cultural” and that this is a legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. So even though things have improved, the reverberations of past discrimination are still felt. This shifts the blame to whites who are no longer alive.

    Maybe some people still believe that. But sixty years after civil rights and affirmative action, I don’t think anyone deep down expects outcomes to ever equalize. To improve black outcomes you’d need to implement more “white supremacy” (i.e., imposition of white standards of behavior), not less. Elimination of “white supremacy” means no standards and that means further black degeneration. To produce actual “equality” between blacks and whites, you’d have to put whites in concentration camps or something.

    Replies: @Achilleus, @profnasty

    To produce actual “equality” between blacks and whites, you’d have to put whites in concentration camps or something.

    Easy, now…

  48. @RichardTaylor
    The goal of CivNats is to save the current Establishment. That's what Charles Murray and Steve support. They want to help them keep credibility by getting them to be more realistic about race, but avoid bringing about an actual pro-White politics.

    Why? I dunno.

    https://irishamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/White-Family-Photo.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “They want to help them keep credibility by getting them to be more realistic about race, but avoid bringing about an actual pro-White politics.”

    In the Current Year, is that strategy sustainable, given the realities of CRT, Woke Politics, etc? The answer is no.

    Because normie whites can look around and see every single other racial group being permitted to have racial pride in their race per se, and that Uncle Sam even encourages it, and yet they are the one group that is not only not permitted to have racial pride, but they are explicitly targeted for being white, then what conclusion are they expected to come to? And they are expected to tolerate this situation forever going forward, and some are beginning to question why they should be content and satisfied with this current arrangement, where every single action that they do is racist and that they as whites are permanently on trial for something that they have no control over (their race).

    Unfortunately, people like Charles Murray are still mentally living in the late ’80’s, early ’90’s, when the Bell Curve was first released. It is people like Murray that will blink and fold up when directly challenged by Kendi to “prove” that he is not personally a racist, and that his entire body of work isn’t racist ipso facto, because after all, Murray himself isn’t a POC, so why should anyone trust his work?

    I once made mention that Steve is in a similar situation to the great sixteenth century scholar Erasmus: caught in the crossfires of a new revolutionary way of viewing the world (in his case, it was the Protestant Reformation), while trying to preserve the older, traditional way of thinking. (e.g. the US should preserve the colorblind society idea that was so popular as an idea during mid. century US). Well, that way is gone, perhaps forever. And so too is the notion of a post-racial society.

    Civic Nationalism only made sense during the time period it was used in practice: ca. 1945-1992. Since then it hasn’t been a viable option, period. And things over the past decade have indicated that the US isn’t going to return to Civ. Nat. anytime soon.

    Perhaps in its final analysis, Civic Nationalism only worked when the US had little to no immigration, and the population was well over 80% white. These were the observations of the late Sam Francis decades ago. He forewarned precisely where these things would lead to.

    Question: What exactly did Charles Murray say regarding Sam Francis’ warnings about early CRT? Did he embrace Sam Francis’ warnings, or did he at the time, do like all the rest and call him a racist, fearmonger, so far off reality (it couldn’t possibly happen in the US), etc.

    Charles Murray genuinely appears dumbfounded that these problems are coming to a head in the public square, when he apparently wasn’t paying attention when Sam Francis, Joseph Sobran, Jared Taylor, even Pat Buchanan were sounding the alarm regarding these problems a couple of decades ago. Wonder why he couldn’t be bothered decades ago, or couldn’t have lent his voice to the problems coming just over the horizon? Was it because these aforementioned people were considered racist and thus outside the pale of conversation, but now that Charles Murray is mentioning these things, then that now suddenly makes it a-okay to bring the topics up?

    What will people like Abrahim Kendi conclude about Charles Murray’s bringing up these things, the same things that Francis, Sobran, Taylor, etc brought up decades ago?

    • Thanks: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Charles Murray genuinely appears dumbfounded that these problems are coming to a head in the public square, when he apparently wasn’t paying attention when Sam Francis, Joseph Sobran, Jared Taylor, even Pat Buchanan were sounding the alarm regarding these problems a couple of decades ago
     
    Thanks for mentioning Sobran and Sam Francis.

    Charles Murray gives a bit more mathematical understanding of racial differences on IQ and such, but nothing more. As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with Blacks knew all this 400 years ago.

    If "really nice" MidWesterners hadn't rejected the lived experience of White Southerners, they would have been wise generations ago. Or they could have talked to South Africans. It doesn't strike me as "nice" to throw other Whites under the bus and proceed as if Murray and company are moral creatures but all the other Whites were "racists" and should be discarded.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Reg Cæsar

    , @ATBOTL
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    White nationalism has never been more inevitable than it is now.

  49. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1407852898030129153?s=20

    It's much worse than partisan. It's gotten this bad because it was mistaken for partisan and opposition was foolishly phrased in those terms.

    They didn't kick things off with a grandma with no criminal record who was given an inquisitor instead of a public defender because they wanted to gain sympathy for their cause or to win over voters. Simultaneously Biden taunted the citizenry with threats of nukes and mocking of appeals to the statements of the Founders.

    This is a campaign of terror. Shock and Awe.

    https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1407776317727293441?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Old Prude

    She, like many students, preferred to take the cinematic route. “I chose the movie whenever possible because it sinks in better,” she wrote.

    Well, don’t go into Room 237 and we haven’t even discussed the Middle East for the (((benefit of))) yet.

    Didn’t Brian Aldiss write that “genocide is standard activity between the two main human genera” (it was in some some mystic story involving Jesus)

  50. @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That’s barely keeping up.
     
    In the future, all white families will be Mormon families (with 5% black adoptees.) And likely have the last name Romney.

    https://i.imgur.com/p1IZWl9.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @bomag, @Anon, @Peter D. Bredon

    WAIT A SECOND!!…the “boys” are wearing blue check and the “girls “are wearing pink dresses…..TRANSPHOBIC!….I demand those children be given puberty blockers…..kidding!……maybe mittens could send his black child to spend time with Barack so he could learn how to be a real black man…….KIDDING!!……. again….

  51. @Yancey Ward
    And when reparations don't fix the inequality, what will Kendi write then? Of course, that it wasn't enough.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @bomag, @usNthem, @SMK, @AceDeuce, @SMK

    …and that it wasn’t enough by a factor of 10; then by a factor of 100…

  52. @James Speaks

    where assault rifles aren’t used to commit mass murder,
     
    uh, that would be handguns.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

    Replies: @bomag, @SMK

    Every statement he makes here has a problematic aspect, but he can’t be bothered to consider the other side, if he is even able to consider other facts and points of view.

    Another reminder that his ilk likes the simple minded and severe ethos of the police state.

  53. Anonymous[232] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, you keep saying “Kendi and his fellow…” but you must have noticed by now that Kendi doesn’t even understand what he’s supposed to be selling. He can’t reference superstructure or systematic whatever, just “policies”. Like the way a seven year old he thinks the President “runs the country” and is therefore everybody’s omnipotent boss, this guy thinks “policies” just tell the world how to be. It’s astonishing.

  54. @AndrewR
    @vhrm

    Why validate his dishonest language? "Different" and "wrong" mean different things. There isn't anything "wrong" with Indians for not being highly represented among elite global track and field stars. Nor is it "wrong" for black Americans to have a median 85 IQ. It is what it is.

    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, "racist policy," or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the "racist" white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn't serve to shake down whites for eternity.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @bomag, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @vhrm

    Differences between groups can be caused by genes, “racist policy,” or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man.

    That’s well-stated.

    (A big reason Sailer isn’t invited to the good Christmas parties is because he does discuss that third option, as long ago as Katrina and as recently as the Racial Wreckening. Hence the struck phrase.)

    The elite intellectuals who run Boston University could have recruited Tony Soprano to serve as Andrew W. Mellon Professor in the Humanities, for his pioneering work in founding the Italian-American Civil Rights League. Lacking courage and integrity, they elevated Dr. Kendi instead. The world is that much poorer for their choice.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @ic1000

    Why the strikeout?

    vhrm explicitly states "After all that those really ARE the only two options."

    And Kendi of course has based his career on blaming whites for all racial disparities.

    Conservatives often get shat upon for not talking about genes, but when the ruling ideology blames everything on "racism" then why would you bring up genes? Once elite black people (and Democrats) start encouraging blacks to improve black culture instead of blaming whitey for everything, then we can talk about genes as an explanation for racial disparities.

  55. Has anyone stopped to think how Critical Race Theory is just dressed up conspiracy theory?

    Smoke and Mirrors.

    It’s not like whites or Asians are immune to this sort of thing, Critical Theory, after all traces back to the Frankfort school Marxist rationalization as seen through the lens of a French Funhouse Mirror.

    After a while you should realize the word games are just the smoke to obscure mirror frames.

    I’m not saying that Foucault was a paranoid schizophrenia, but the package is well suited to the mind that cannot distinguish fantasy from reality.

    And the logical consequence of CRT? There will always be an oppressor and an oppressed, which one are you? Which one will you be? It doesn’t really offer anything moving forward.

    Perhaps, like the Nuclear Bomb, it’s sort of a litmus test whether mankind deserves to survive.

  56. @Achilleus
    Up to a point, I agree with Henry Rogers (if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”): either something is wrong with blacks - they are less intelligent and more criminal; or it only appears that way because reasons.

    Beyond that point we diverge.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Desiderius, @NOTA

    By what standard of wrong?

    The conservatives you elect to represent you chafe at the idea of any standards whatsoever. They’re content to let the marketplace decide. At least those marketplaces owned by their donors.

    Likewise you say wrong as an absolute but your standards are relative. Is there something wrong with whites that you’re less intelligent and more criminal than Asians? With Asians relative to a machine?

  57. @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That’s barely keeping up.
     
    In the future, all white families will be Mormon families (with 5% black adoptees.) And likely have the last name Romney.

    https://i.imgur.com/p1IZWl9.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @bomag, @Anon, @Peter D. Bredon

    LOL

    I hope their politics pull back from Cuckservatism.

  58. @AndrewR
    @vhrm

    Why validate his dishonest language? "Different" and "wrong" mean different things. There isn't anything "wrong" with Indians for not being highly represented among elite global track and field stars. Nor is it "wrong" for black Americans to have a median 85 IQ. It is what it is.

    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, "racist policy," or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the "racist" white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn't serve to shake down whites for eternity.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @bomag, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @vhrm

    they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man.

    This is a point Loury and McWhorter, Sowell, Williams, and others often return to. If we are to discuss framing, the internal locus of control correlates positively with success, external with failure. The so-called philosophy of Kendi is poisonous and he must be called out on it.

    Why validate his dishonest language? “Different” and “wrong” mean different things.

    Good call. Start with the language games.

  59. @anonymous
    @Achilleus

    Nothing is "wrong" with Blacks. Their forced introduction into the world beyond Sub-Saharan Africa on the other hand..........

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous, @Larugula

    Hiding the ball with passive voice again. It was the Bantu themselves (but not themselves alone! Not too much Lux and Veritas on this topic pls! You’ll keep that Skull and those Bones in the closet and like it thank you very much!) who forced this and are now forcing you.

  60. The quote Kendi attributes to Du Bois is a paraphrase of Napoleon:

    What then is, generally speaking, the truth of history? A fable agreed upon.

    https://shannonselin.com/2014/08/10-napoleon-bonaparte-quotes-context/

    Seems Du Bois didn’t know exactly who to attribute it to in his work (Black Reconstruction in America), simply citing that “men in the past” had said it regarding history. Although he does briefly mention both Napoleon & Napoleon III elsewhere in the book.

  61. • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Desiderius

    The libtoids in (((Dave Brown's))) mentions are all YASS QUEEN about Milley and seething with hatred towards Gaetz.

    But overall I think it's good the military is mask off now. Any white man worth a tenth of a shit will either get out of the military or refuse to go in now. Imagine risking your life for a country that openly despises you and your children.

    And Milley is so disingenuous. He says people should be well-read, which of course is true, but why are servicemen not being encouraged to read pro-white books? Anti-Semitic books? They only want you to read anti-white books then declare yourself well-reqd.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Seneca44
    @Desiderius

    The left is really loving this homily from General Milley, but, as usual, he makes a false comparison when he says that he read Mao and Lenin but did not become a communist. If the military powers that be were presenting critical race theory as a failed philosophy like communism then it would be acceptable in a historical context. Instead, CRT is presented as a litmus test for future progress in the religion--non-believers need not apply for promotion.

    Replies: @anon

  62. @Yancey Ward
    And when reparations don't fix the inequality, what will Kendi write then? Of course, that it wasn't enough.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @bomag, @usNthem, @SMK, @AceDeuce, @SMK

    Nothing will ever be enough until blacks are running the entire show, top to bottom. When the inevitable failures across the system then multiply, it’ll still be our fault. There is absolutely no winning with these creatures.

  63. Anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That’s barely keeping up.
     
    In the future, all white families will be Mormon families (with 5% black adoptees.) And likely have the last name Romney.

    https://i.imgur.com/p1IZWl9.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @bomag, @Anon, @Peter D. Bredon

    I remember when George Bush (not W) caught a lot of flak when he was talking about maybe his grandchildren and made a reference to one as “the brown one”.

    Now, progressives (their description for themselves) delineate everything into white ppl or black ppl or brown ppl. Even so, if he did it today Bush would still be catching a lot of flack for it.

  64. If plain old Henry Rogers wrote this crap would anyone read it?

  65. @Reg Cæsar

    Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.
     
    Either black men are six or eight or ten times as likely to be denied a handgun permit as white men because they misbehave more-- or the inequity is caused by racist policy. The need to have a permit to possess a handgun is thus inherently racist policy.

    Unless you listen to George Takei's boy toy, Ladd Everitt:


    The racist charge

    Debunking the ‘gun control is racist’ smear"

    Josh Horwitz quoted and Ladd Everitt mentioned by Salon
    Is Gun Control Racist?

    Replies: @CCZ, @Paperback Writer

    Arrests are racist:

    “Protesters Gather Outside Rock Hill Police Department After Video Surfaces Showing Arrest Of 2 Black Men”

    https://www.wccbcharlotte.com/2021/06/23/protesters-gather-outside-rock-hill-police-department-after-video-surfaces-showing-arrest-of-2-black-men/

    • Replies: @Anon
    @CCZ

    Stopped in Charlotte and bypassed Rock Hill and never was a minute late:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51R7bxQNAJg

  66. Because they have no power, and they have no power because they don’t want any. Like their voters.

    The “Leave Me Alone” coalition. How’d that work out?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Desiderius

    8To do what? Britney would be crazy whether she had become a star or not. Becoming a star did not make her crazy. I have no idea what this Ragsdale clown is trying to say.

  67. @El Dato
    @Achilleus

    https://i.postimg.cc/J7y79c0H/Bugs-Bunny-is-rather-racist.png

    Replies: @Neuday

    It’s been a long damned time since I saw a Black/White interaction where the Black appeared so ingratiating and the White so smug.

  68. @ic1000
    @AndrewR


    Differences between groups can be caused by genes, “racist policy,” or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man.
     
    That's well-stated.

    (A big reason Sailer isn't invited to the good Christmas parties is because he does discuss that third option, as long ago as Katrina and as recently as the Racial Wreckening. Hence the struck phrase.)

    The elite intellectuals who run Boston University could have recruited Tony Soprano to serve as Andrew W. Mellon Professor in the Humanities, for his pioneering work in founding the Italian-American Civil Rights League. Lacking courage and integrity, they elevated Dr. Kendi instead. The world is that much poorer for their choice.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Why the strikeout?

    vhrm explicitly states “After all that those really ARE the only two options.”

    And Kendi of course has based his career on blaming whites for all racial disparities.

    Conservatives often get shat upon for not talking about genes, but when the ruling ideology blames everything on “racism” then why would you bring up genes? Once elite black people (and Democrats) start encouraging blacks to improve black culture instead of blaming whitey for everything, then we can talk about genes as an explanation for racial disparities.

  69. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/AtlantaLiberal/status/1408044590712696832?s=20

    Because they have no power, and they have no power because they don't want any. Like their voters.

    The "Leave Me Alone" coalition. How'd that work out?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    8To do what? Britney would be crazy whether she had become a star or not. Becoming a star did not make her crazy. I have no idea what this Ragsdale clown is trying to say.

  70. Find a gap and close it.

    The government should be categorically prohibited from anything to do with statistics.

    We have got to do something about that gap between the 1s orbital and the nucleus.

  71. @AndrewR
    @vhrm

    Why validate his dishonest language? "Different" and "wrong" mean different things. There isn't anything "wrong" with Indians for not being highly represented among elite global track and field stars. Nor is it "wrong" for black Americans to have a median 85 IQ. It is what it is.

    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, "racist policy," or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the "racist" white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn't serve to shake down whites for eternity.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @bomag, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @vhrm

    Thanks.

    We’re debating people who pretend differences are 100% social training, with no input from biology.

    They paint the opposition as claiming 100% genetic.

    Those who discuss both genes and culture are told to pick a side.

  72. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/martok114/status/1407806668826677250?s=20

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1394106820839362564?s=20

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Seneca44

    The libtoids in (((Dave Brown’s))) mentions are all YASS QUEEN about Milley and seething with hatred towards Gaetz.

    But overall I think it’s good the military is mask off now. Any white man worth a tenth of a shit will either get out of the military or refuse to go in now. Imagine risking your life for a country that openly despises you and your children.

    And Milley is so disingenuous. He says people should be well-read, which of course is true, but why are servicemen not being encouraged to read pro-white books? Anti-Semitic books? They only want you to read anti-white books then declare yourself well-reqd.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @AndrewR

    That's not how it works. You can't just walk out and go to another country right down the street. Your choices are fight or fight. You give it your best shot then if you lose flight becomes an option or maybe a necessity as it was for our ancestors.

    This is your brain one free-market libertarianism. It's a narrow economic theory not a philosophy of life for God's sake. Your descendants won't forgive you if you don't put up a fight while you still can and they end up in some backwater. Your ancestors probably won't be too thrilled either.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  73. Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy.

    If rural whites refuse to be vaccinated against COVID-19 (Wyoming ranks 45th in % of population vaccinated) it’s because there’s something wrong with them.

    If blacks refuse to be vaccinated against COVID-19 it’s because there’s something wrong with white people (racism).

    There’s never anything wrong with blacks – any attempt to assign blame to them must fail because blacks lack agency. Anything bad that they do (or don’t do), whitey made them do it with their racism. If blacks are shooting each other, then we must find the white gun dealers who sold them the guns and punish them harshly. It was said of Henry Adams that when he saw Vesuvius reddening he looked for the Jew who was stoking the fire. Kendi operates the same way – no matter what the phenomenon, you have to look for the white racist who is causing it.

  74. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achilleus


    if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”
     
    That's how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won't even use it themselves.

    Côte d'Ivoire and Timor Leste at least have the excuse of lessening confusion. And they're in colonial languages.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @Catdog, @Muggles, @Česko, @Rob McX

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @John Derbyshire

    Czechitania, from the Prisoner of Czenda, has a little more heft.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @John Derbyshire

    It's painful to see one of one's heroes so wrong on something. They have the right to name their country in their language. We reserve the right to name their country in our language.

    If Czechia is so euphonious, why don't they use it themselves? They have three excellent names in English already-- Moravia, Bohemia, and Silesia.

    And why is CZ pronounced "ch", and CH not?

  75. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That's barely keeping up.

    Is that on Cape Cod? In Plymouth days, six couples would have begotten sixty. Had both of each couple lived.

    At least everyone in the picture is white, just as in Plymouth days. No Metacomets or Jemimas.

    Replies: @Bill P, @RichardTaylor, @PiltdownMan, @Barnard

    The oldest couple is obvious the grandparents, so that is five couples producing 12 grandchildren for them so far. From the looks the picture it is unlikely they are all done having kids at the point it was taken. The three mothers on the right all look young enough to have more kids. Even if they only get to 18 that isn’t reproducing at the same rate their parents did, but 3.6 is still not only well above average, but above replacement level.

  76. Of the 3rd world, thousands ARE still pouring across our border; the multi-decades INVASION continues. INVASION is not our #1 topic. Why not? Thus, we accept our dispossession.

  77. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy.

    Don’t majority of black girls (70% or so) go to predominately black schools? I can’t find any figures, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of teachers in black schools are black. Is it possible that black teachers have less tolerance for black girl bullsh*t than white teachers have for white girl bullsh*t?

  78. A “world of make believe”; you don’t say?

  79. We’re may be approaching the point where Mr. Kendi puts on a leather jacket and water skis over a shark.

  80. Anonymous[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    @Achilleus

    Nothing is "wrong" with Blacks. Their forced introduction into the world beyond Sub-Saharan Africa on the other hand..........

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous, @Larugula

    Every distinct ancestry group is perfectly adapted to its on environs by definition.

    Downtown Chicago is not the perfect environment for low IQ high testosterone men. These traits contribute to impulse behavior which is related to criminality and violence, sexual license.

    Small rural communities of black in the warm south dont thrive particularly, but nor are they third world hellholes.

  81. “wokes are mostly wrong”

    I will borrow the language of physicists who characterize the proponents of “string theory” physics:
    The are “not even wrong.”

  82. @Reg Cæsar

    Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.
     
    Either black men are six or eight or ten times as likely to be denied a handgun permit as white men because they misbehave more-- or the inequity is caused by racist policy. The need to have a permit to possess a handgun is thus inherently racist policy.

    Unless you listen to George Takei's boy toy, Ladd Everitt:


    The racist charge

    Debunking the ‘gun control is racist’ smear"

    Josh Horwitz quoted and Ladd Everitt mentioned by Salon
    Is Gun Control Racist?

    Replies: @CCZ, @Paperback Writer

    That’s pretty good – gun control is racist.

    These guys are canceling themselves!!

    https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/greta-thunberg-new-zealand-school-strike-b1866457.html

  83. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achilleus


    if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”
     
    That's how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won't even use it themselves.

    Côte d'Ivoire and Timor Leste at least have the excuse of lessening confusion. And they're in colonial languages.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @Catdog, @Muggles, @Česko, @Rob McX

    Why doesn’t this logic apply to Germany and Japan? By which I mean Deutschland and Nippon.

  84. Well, Kindi can make quite a Word-hash, but at least I understand what he is talking about: He’s and expert about racism and anyone who doesn’t believe him, is a dope. Most of what he is writing is verbose and disjointed and silly, but I can get the point of his ranting.

    That’s better than Cornell West ever managed. I could never figure out a damn thing that guy was saying. Though, I think that was deliberate on his part; As one wag quipped “Cornell West uses big words for the same reason a fourteen year-old girl uses tissue paper”.

  85. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1407852898030129153?s=20

    It's much worse than partisan. It's gotten this bad because it was mistaken for partisan and opposition was foolishly phrased in those terms.

    They didn't kick things off with a grandma with no criminal record who was given an inquisitor instead of a public defender because they wanted to gain sympathy for their cause or to win over voters. Simultaneously Biden taunted the citizenry with threats of nukes and mocking of appeals to the statements of the Founders.

    This is a campaign of terror. Shock and Awe.

    https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1407776317727293441?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Old Prude

    Who killed Ashli Babbitt? Keep asking.

  86. @Bill P
    @Reg Cæsar

    Better than nothing, I guess.

    Kind of a stretch to compare those women to Plymouth settlers. Can you imagine them grinding corn, milking cattle and hoeing gardens with three kids under six in the house? I think they'd probably expire within a month. Of course, a lot of women back then did just that.

    Maybe that one on the right in the blue could handle it. She looks fairly sturdy.

    The early settlers were a different breed from today's upper middle class. And they were only in charge for a few generations before the merchants overturned their rules and marginalized their community.

    People often blame the Puritans for this or that, but when I looked into the history I was surprised to see how quickly they were superseded by commercial and progressive factions. By the 18th century they were little more than a relic.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Reg Cæsar

    The past isn’t just another country, its another planet. Pioneer women may have popped out six to ten children, but five would be dead within a year. That is if pioneer woman didn’t die during child birth. Our area in southern Maine features old family and community cemeteries every half mile or so, most dating back to the late 1700s. The number of young women and infants in those cemeteries is remarkable. There is one fellow buried with his four wives: Three of them young, and one able to make it to old-age.

    The young men who are buried all died in the Civil War. Its always melancholy to see the grave stones of the ones who died in the first days, and the ones who died in the very last days.

    On the current planet the only young people in cemeteries are suicides and drunk drivers.

    • Agree: Ed
    • Replies: @Ed
    @Old Prude

    I believe as recently as the early 20th century, 1 out of 5 American children had at least one deceased parent.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Old Prude

    It's true that infant mortality was quite high, but I think the danger of death during childbirth was exaggerated. Having researched my family tree, I can only find one woman within the past 6 generations who died of complications related to childbirth. Similarly, one man who died in a war (the Civil War, of disease as a POW, not battle).

    But what does stand out is that people dying in their 40s, 50s, and 60s was basically the norm. Middle-aged was "old" then. That could be specific to my area; maybe the humid climate, (probably) contaminated water, and diseases took their toll relatively early.

    Another weird thing about the past is that out of 6-10 children you'd often find only 1-3 got married and had their own children. Lots of people ended up as lifelong bachelors or spinsters if they didn't die in childhood. Or perhaps they became caretakers for other family members.

    Replies: @photondancer

  87. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.

    That’s a good quote. It’s a good starting point when arguing with liberals to use that quote and attack the use of the word “racist”. Why is is unethical or immoral to look at real-world biological causes of human behavior? Why is it immoral to look at fact-based arguments on genetics and race? Why do liberals assume that race realism implies genocide of blacks as the only possible response to those facts?
    “Racist” is just name-calling. Argue back with liberals every time they use the word and tell them it is just name-calling, something crude that people do when they don’t have a real argument. Liberals have college degrees and are sensitive to looking stupid.
    90% of Woke politics is name-calling (the other 10% is throwing bricks through windows). Call them out every time they do it and accuse them of being anti-intellectual, un-scientific, uneducated, not-smart.

  88. Mr. Kendi is afflicted with what we might call “status-influence disequilibrium.”

    A few decades ago, David Brooks of the NYT put forward “status-income disequilibrium” to describe the situation of government bureaucrats whose decisions impact the lives of millions of people, and whose work is acknowledged as powerful, but who are stuck in a government pay system and can barely afford to live inside the Beltway. They are more influential than their private sector colleagues who work in law firms, consulting firms, etc., but make far less money and often struggle financially in high cost of living areas.

    Mr. Kendi’s situation is analogous – he has every feather in his cap that one can have, is paid extraordinary speaking fees, writes for the Atlantic, gets books published, etc. And yet, Average Joe has no idea who he is and would find his ideas bizarre and offensive. The status he earns for the opinions he puts forward is high, but his influence on regular Americans is very, very low. He’s a “public intellectual” that the public has never heard of. This creates a type of cognitive dissonance, with which he grapples (unsuccessfully in my view) in his Atlantic essay.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  89. “… The cause of racial inequity is either racist policy…”

    Kendi is correct, it is racist policy: 50 years of guilt-ridden white liberals treating blacks like they have no agency; “helping” women and children by cutting checks if the father abandons the family; constantly griping over an institution that ended 150 years ago and was limited to one region of the country; and on and on.

  90. @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    OT,but this is a bit shocking. John McAfee,the virus guy, has been found dead in his jail cell in Spain. I've followed his (mis)adventures in Latin America. Somehow he wound up in Spain and supposedly committed suicide.
    Strange!

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Muggles

    McAfee was going to be extradited to the US for tax evasion. Trump fixed the Lois Lerner policies at the IRS (a conservative legal group won a consent decree making them stop targeting by ideology) and Biden’s handlers are reversing all that. The IRS will go back to what it was doing under Obama.
    So maybe it was suicide.

  91. @Achilleus
    Up to a point, I agree with Henry Rogers (if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”): either something is wrong with blacks - they are less intelligent and more criminal; or it only appears that way because reasons.

    Beyond that point we diverge.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @anonymous, @al gore rhythms, @Desiderius, @NOTA

    Reality is usually messier than good rhetoric.

    Some black/white differences are genetic in origin, some are cultural, some are based on their situation. For example, the high rate of illegitimacy among blacks is clearly cultural and may largely be a knock-on effect of how early welfare programs were designed. The geographical distribution of blacks is largely driven by slavery and later oppressive laws sending a large
    diaspora of Southern blacks up to Northern cities. The higher rate of high blood pressure and heart disease among blacks is probably genetic in origin (though aggravated by cultural stuff like a Southern diet).

    To understand the world, you have to care more about being right in each specific case than you do about soaring rhetoric. I haven’t read Kendi’s books, but my impression of him is that he cares a lot about soaring rhetoric. I have read a bunch of Murray’s books, and he clearly cares about understanding the world.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Farenheit
    @NOTA


    For example, the high rate of illegitimacy among blacks is clearly cultural and may largely be a knock-on effect of how early welfare programs were designed.
     
    You may want to read up on the work of Phillip Rushton and his theories on Life History Strategies. I would recommend reading Ed Dutton's book "Making Sense of Race". There's more going on with illegitimacy than just culture.
    , @Art Deco
    @NOTA

    The geographical distribution of blacks is largely driven by slavery and later oppressive laws sending a large diaspora of Southern blacks up to Northern cities.

    Disagree. Net migration northward was minimal for 50 years after the Civil War. As late as 1910, 93% of the blacks in the US lived in former slave states That changed consequent to a cotton crop failure in 1915 which triggered pioneering migration and then chain migration. The net migration did dissipate coincident with the improvement in the social status of blacks. Recall, though that regional wage differentials dropped dramatically between 1930 and 1980 and recall that non-material quality of life in northern black neighborhoods declined severely between 1945 and 1980.

  92. This may be the perfect moment in The Current Year for more and more people to stand up and assert HBD and race realism. The Conservative, Inc. “fatherless Black culture” yada yada spiel clearly isn’t working.

    If Kendi would submit his theories to the same kind of empiricism as astrophysicists, then we might get somewhere. Kendi et al would have a much harder time if they had to debate someone like Charles Murray compared to someone that won’t touch the IQ taboo. I believe that’s why – subconsciously or not – they put HBD/race realism outside of the Overton Window. Cognitive dissonance and the ability to win an argument won’t allow it.

  93. @anonymous
    @Achilleus

    Nothing is "wrong" with Blacks. Their forced introduction into the world beyond Sub-Saharan Africa on the other hand..........

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous, @Larugula

    It seems odd that there has never been a mass exodus of blacks out of America.

  94. Aww, look at that. An expert in bovine excrement is sad that not everybody respects his expertise.

  95. @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    OT,but this is a bit shocking. John McAfee,the virus guy, has been found dead in his jail cell in Spain. I've followed his (mis)adventures in Latin America. Somehow he wound up in Spain and supposedly committed suicide.
    Strange!

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Muggles

    OT,but this is a bit shocking. John McAfee,the virus guy, has been found dead in his jail cell in Spain. I’ve followed his (mis)adventures in Latin America. Somehow he wound up in Spain and supposedly committed suicide.
    Strange!

    Not so strange. He was “on the run” in various places outside of the US for the last several years. IRS tax problems.

    He would tweet or online brag about being “free” but was just on the run from US tax laws and extradition. At age 75 he wanted to write his own ending, not die in 10 years in some federal prison cell. Being extradited to the US by Spanish authorities.

    Of course despite his talk of “freedom” it was always about him. Not you. Sad ending but not sinister. Who would bother killing him? Just another sociopath/narcissist/histrionic personality who finally ran into reality the hard way.

    You can run, but not hide, from the US tax monster. Like the mafia, you gotta pay their tax.

    • Replies: @profnasty
    @Muggles

    John specifically and resolutely stated he would NOT commit suicide.

    Replies: @Muggles

  96. Ibram-X-Kendi is just another fake race hustler.

    His real name is Henry Rogers and was raised a Baptist. His parents were missionaries.

    Of course now he invents a fake “black” name with fake Islamic overtones to seem scarier to whites (Whites!)

    Now he has a government polar bear hunting hustle at some university. The “Institute to Fight Polar Bears” or something.

    But, no polar bears you say? Why Mr. Rogers can find them everywhere, next door to you even. If you don’t look like the Rogers clan, maybe you is a polar bear!

    Very dangerous these polar bears. Everything negative about life is the fault of polar bears running loose. Call Mr. Kendi/Rogers ASAP. He can spot a polar bear in a blizzard.

    His next best seller: Polar Bears, Why Everything is Their Fault.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Muggles

    "Ibram-X-Kendi is just another fake race hustler."

    Now that he's wealthy look for Kendi to abandon anti-racism for the lived experience of an existentialist philosopher in the South of France.

    Replies: @Muggles

  97. @PaceLaw
    “To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go ‘too far.’”

    This simple-minded fellow seems to get awfully pouty when people do not agree with him 100% down the line. He seems absolutely flabbergasted that people do not wholly accept his ideas concerning “remedies and reparations”. The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Forbes, @Peter D. Bredon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @SMK, @profnasty

    Harry beat me to it. The amount of money showered on him has to result in a Teflon and bulletproof ego.

    But I wonder, how can the former Ibram Henry Rogers, under the guise of Ibram X. Kendi (self-identity/self-invention much?), accept the “named” professorship of a white man, Andrew W. Mellon??

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Forbes

    How many lavishly funded "named" professorships have black men and women endowed? And of those, how many are at HBCU's like Howard, Fisk, Morehouse, Spelman, Grambling, etc.? Most, I bet. A gift of, say, half a million, to an HBCU is probably enough to endow a chair, or at least a nice ottoman. At a school the size and relative status of Boston University (never mind schools with more money and stronger academic reputations), half a million would barely rate a call from the Development Office.

    When it comes to comfortable academic sinecures, there is no black or white: there is only green.

  98. @PaceLaw
    “To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go ‘too far.’”

    This simple-minded fellow seems to get awfully pouty when people do not agree with him 100% down the line. He seems absolutely flabbergasted that people do not wholly accept his ideas concerning “remedies and reparations”. The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Forbes, @Peter D. Bredon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @SMK, @profnasty

    “The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???”

    The inevitable TV movie, or Hollywood blockbuster (or “blackbuster” as Archie Bunker once called real estate sharpie trying to scare his neighbors into selling because of the Jeffersons moving in) on the life of Dr. K should star Glenn Howerton of “It’s Always Sunny”. It’s even diverse casting!

  99. @Some Guy

    Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy.
     
    Either I got a 1000 points on the SAT because I'm not that smart, or Bad Juju from white people is keeping me down.

    This might qualify for your best quotes by the way:

    As America becomes more sensitive to African ways of thinking, we are phasing out tired Eurocentric modes of thought such as the scientific method in favor of vibrant new ways of explaining unfortunate outcomes, such as Systemic Racism and/or Bad Juju.
     

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    I will scream at the next conservative who blames our problems on “the Enlightenment”. CRT is based on Frankfurt School “critical theory” which rejected … the Enlightenment. As Spengler predicted, the blacks are picking up the White man’s tools and using them against him.

    “As America becomes more sensitive to African ways of thinking, we are phasing out tired Eurocentric modes of thought such as the scientific method in favor of vibrant new ways of explaining unfortunate outcomes, such as Systemic Racism and/or Bad Juju.”

    Conservatives only dislike this because THEIR Juju was supposed to be the replacement: Mediaeval Christianity a la E Michael Jones.

    Note: Read Marcuse’s One Dimensional Man for the discussion of how the system uses acronyms to disguise or bury what were once real alternatives, like AFL/CIO. In this case, “CRT” is used to hide the debt to Critical Theory (too Jewish).

  100. @AndrewR
    @vhrm

    Why validate his dishonest language? "Different" and "wrong" mean different things. There isn't anything "wrong" with Indians for not being highly represented among elite global track and field stars. Nor is it "wrong" for black Americans to have a median 85 IQ. It is what it is.

    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, "racist policy," or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the "racist" white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn't serve to shake down whites for eternity.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @bomag, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @vhrm

    … mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man. [emphasis added]

    So—complete racial separation, except maybe allowing among Whites a few vetted, assimilated, psychologically sound ‘token’ Blacks who are pro-White?

  101. I am tired of midwit grifters being promoted by those who hate America. However, their incessant efforts to destroy America by any means necessary shows how great America was.

  102. @PaceLaw
    “To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go ‘too far.’”

    This simple-minded fellow seems to get awfully pouty when people do not agree with him 100% down the line. He seems absolutely flabbergasted that people do not wholly accept his ideas concerning “remedies and reparations”. The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Forbes, @Peter D. Bredon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @SMK, @profnasty

    “The last U.S. census slave schedules were enumerated by County in 1860 and included 393,975 named persons holding 3,950,546 unnamed slaves, or an average of about ten slaves per holder. The actual number of slaveholders may be slightly lower because some large holders held slaves in more than one County and they would have been counted as a separate slaveholder in each County. Excluding slaves, the 1860 U.S. population was 27,167,529, with about 1 in 70 being a slaveholder. It is estimated by this transcriber that in 1860, slaveholders of 200 or more slaves, while constituting less than 1 % of the total number of U.S. slaveholders, or 1 out of 7,000 free persons, held 20-30% of the total number of slaves in the U.S.”

    from the MSGen Web Project.

    That’s right, you’re eyes aren’t deceiving you. Only 1 out of 70 citizens of the USA in 1860 owned slaves. And as many whites immigrated to the USA since 1860 as lived here then. That means, that if each group bred true (slave owners and non-slave owners–not plausible, I know, but a necessary assumption to grasp the essential point) then only one out of 140 Americans are descended from slaveowners–and some of those slave owners were black!. So, fewer than 1 out of 140 American whites are descended from former slave owners.

    And we whites are expected to pay reparations? For what? For the simple coincidence of having lived in the USA at the same time as African blacks? There’s no more cogent causal connection than that; that’s the best they’ve got. You’re white, your ancestors lived in America, now hand over the dough.

    That’s extortion. Or highway robbery. Either way, crimes. And inasmuch as criminal behavior is common among blacks, Ibram X. Kendi is simply behaving true to Form. And this greed for an easy, fast buck is precisely why blacks accrue so little wealth.

    • Replies: @anon
    @ThreeCranes

    . So, fewer than 1 out of 140 American whites are descended from former slave owners.

    Some Americans are descended from men who so hated slavery, they put on a blue suit, accepted Uncle Sam's rifle and went where they were sent. Places like Cold Harbor, Vicksburg, Gettysburg, Petersburg, etc. Those Americans are supposed to pay whom for what actions, again?

    , @Elli
    @ThreeCranes

    I think Kendi's idea is that in the long run whites have benefited, blacks have suffered from slavery and the racist aftermath. It isn't to do with individual guilt or innocence. It's as if one child were favored, the other abused and disinherited through the father's wickedness, and generations later, the descendants of the disinherited still suffer.

    My great great great grandfather owned 20 slaves. His grandson my great grandfather was born dirt poor, had a fourth grade education. With hard work and intelligence, he became a man of property. He hated black people, though he didn't persecute them, just steered clear.

    Black Southerners didn't really have his chance to work their way up for three more generations, say 1970. Since then our elite have destroyed the blue collar job and promoted sexual license which destroys the family.

    You can't accumulate family wealth without family stability.

    You can't live one life and gain the benefits of another.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    , @John Milton’s Ghost
    @ThreeCranes

    Your main point is valid. Most scholars assume however that you can safely multiply the number of owners by four or five, since the numbers reflect individual owners—that is, the ones who held the title to the slave property—rather than the families as a whole who were effectively slaveholders. Even doing that means that only 1/4 of all white southerners owned slaves in 1860, and white southerners were outnumbered by northerners over 3 to 1.

    Hence the need to create vague language that emphasizes some bond of whiteness that benefits every white over every black, as well as expanding beyond slavery to create a concept of racism so wide ranging that touching someone’s hair is akin to whipping them on the block.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

  103. • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Desiderius

    https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1408148346699608066

    https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1408051917964595202

  104. @vhrm


    The cause of racial inequity is either racist policy or racial hierarchy. The racial problem is the result of bad policies or bad people. … Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.
     

     
    This really is the crux of it and it's this dichotomy (which then led me to iSteve back then) red-pilled me to HBD about a decade ago.

    The observational studies have been done. The intervention studies have been done. Over and over. And it's all been done by liberals and progressives, because they've owned sociology and education for many decades now.

    After all that those really ARE the only two options. And looking at all the studies and interventions it's clear that Murray is more right and Kendi and the rest of the wokes are mostly wrong.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Forbes, @Bannon

    The cause of racial inequity is diversity–difference. And the dilemma, if one views diversity or difference as such, is the ASSUMPTION that no differential outcomes as between racial (or ethnic) groups should occur, e.g. achievement, employment, prosperity, et al.

    Kendi is just another vendor of a magic elixir or potion “guaranteed” to cure “what ails you.” It doesn’t have to work (caveat emptor)–you just have to buy it. Like any cult con, he needs Kool-Aid drinkers to keep the game going. Worse than being conned–is admitting you were conned…

  105. @Muggles
    Ibram-X-Kendi is just another fake race hustler.

    His real name is Henry Rogers and was raised a Baptist. His parents were missionaries.

    Of course now he invents a fake "black" name with fake Islamic overtones to seem scarier to whites (Whites!)

    Now he has a government polar bear hunting hustle at some university. The "Institute to Fight Polar Bears" or something.

    But, no polar bears you say? Why Mr. Rogers can find them everywhere, next door to you even. If you don't look like the Rogers clan, maybe you is a polar bear!

    Very dangerous these polar bears. Everything negative about life is the fault of polar bears running loose. Call Mr. Kendi/Rogers ASAP. He can spot a polar bear in a blizzard.

    His next best seller: Polar Bears, Why Everything is Their Fault.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Ibram-X-Kendi is just another fake race hustler.”

    Now that he’s wealthy look for Kendi to abandon anti-racism for the lived experience of an existentialist philosopher in the South of France.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @SunBakedSuburb


    Now that he’s wealthy look for Kendi to abandon anti-racism for the lived experience of an existentialist philosopher in the South of France.
     
    You will be able to contact him at : Kindi X Sartre, Cap Ferrat, Cote de Azure, France.
  106. @Bill P
    @Reg Cæsar

    Better than nothing, I guess.

    Kind of a stretch to compare those women to Plymouth settlers. Can you imagine them grinding corn, milking cattle and hoeing gardens with three kids under six in the house? I think they'd probably expire within a month. Of course, a lot of women back then did just that.

    Maybe that one on the right in the blue could handle it. She looks fairly sturdy.

    The early settlers were a different breed from today's upper middle class. And they were only in charge for a few generations before the merchants overturned their rules and marginalized their community.

    People often blame the Puritans for this or that, but when I looked into the history I was surprised to see how quickly they were superseded by commercial and progressive factions. By the 18th century they were little more than a relic.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Reg Cæsar

    Can you imagine them grinding corn, milking cattle and hoeing gardens with three kids under six in the house?

    There were plenty of aunties around to help. And once the older kids reach their teens, a large family becomes easier to manage than a small one. Many hands make light work.

  107. Ibram X. Kendi missed his true calling.

    He should be one of those homeless Black derelicts who loudly accosts you in public, in order to inform you that he is the risen Jesus Christ.

    Admittedly, this pays better.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    "Admittedly, this pays better."

    Good money in cults that draw in stupid wealthy white people.

  108. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achilleus


    if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”
     
    That's how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won't even use it themselves.

    Côte d'Ivoire and Timor Leste at least have the excuse of lessening confusion. And they're in colonial languages.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @Catdog, @Muggles, @Česko, @Rob McX

    That’s how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won’t even use it themselves.

    The thing about place names (or names of tribes, groups, etc.) is that they nearly always change over time.

    Just look at an old map or atlas. Sometimes the old names come back into reuse but often new ones pop up.

    Also, as you should know, names in foreign languages get translated differently over time due to newer rules and conventions. Sometimes there is politics, other times just more phonetically correct.

    I don’t care for these changes but life is about change.

    Of course since our recent Year Zero the supposed ‘mainstream’ media has been slavishly following the Woke line on this. So all kinds of bogus changes are now seen in “journalism” turned Soviet style. This is usually just to annoy the non Woke or force them into new language. That’s another Orwellian modern fad.

    Language in general also changes. Few can readily read something written in American English even 200 years old.

    I’ll be happy when the AP style “guide” (Commissar Edition) lets White be capitalized or Black be uncapitalized.

  109. @syonredux
    From George Packer's article in The Atlantic, "How America Fractured Into Four Parts". Most of the article is pure dreck, but this section struck me as somewhat insightful:

    I’m exaggerating the suddenness of this new narrative, but not by much. Things changed astonishingly quickly after 2014, when Just America escaped campuses and pervaded the wider culture. First, the “softer” professions gave way. Book publishers released a torrent of titles on race and identity, which year after year won the most prestigious prizes. Newspapers and magazines known for aspiring to reportorial objectivity shifted toward an activist model of journalism, adopting new values and assumptions along with a brand-new language: systemic racism, white supremacy, white privilege, anti-Blackness, marginalized communities, decolonization, toxic masculinity. Similar changes came to arts organizations, philanthropies, scientific institutions, technology monopolies, and finally corporate America and the Democratic Party. The incontestable principle of inclusion drove the changes, which smuggled in more threatening features that have come to characterize identity politics and social justice: monolithic group thought, hostility to open debate, and a taste for moral coercion.
     

    The social-justice movement is a repudiation of meritocracy, a rebellion against the system handed down from parents to children. Students at elite universities no longer believe they deserve their coveted slots. Activists in New York want to abolish the tests that determine entry into the city’s most competitive high schools (where Asian American children now predominate). In some niche areas, such as literary magazines and graduate schools of education, the idea of merit as separate from identity no longer exists.
     

    But most Just Americans still belong to the meritocracy and have no desire to give up its advantages. They can’t escape its status anxieties—they’ve only transferred them to the new narrative. They want to be the first to adopt its expert terminology. In the summer of 2020, people suddenly began saying “BIPOC” as if they’d been doing it all their lives. (Black, Indigenous, and people of color was a way to uncouple groups that had been aggregated under people of color and give them their rightful place in the moral order, with people from Bogotá and Karachi and Seoul bringing up the rear.) The whole atmosphere of Just America at its most constricted—the fear of failing to say the right thing, the urge to level withering fire on minor faults—is a variation on the fierce competitive spirit of Smart America. Only the terms of accreditation have changed. And because achievement is a fragile basis for moral identity, when meritocrats are accused of racism, they have no solid faith in their own worth to stand on.
     

    The rules in Just America are different, and they have been quickly learned by older liberals following a long series of defenestrations at The New York Times, Poetry magazine, Georgetown University, the Guggenheim Museum, and other leading institutions. The parameters of acceptable expression are a lot narrower than they used to be. A written thought can be a form of violence. The loudest public voices in a controversy will prevail. Offending them can cost your career. Justice is power. These new rules are not based on liberal values; they are post-liberal.
     

    Just America’s origins in theory, its intolerant dogma, and its coercive tactics remind me of 1930s left-wing ideology. Liberalism as white supremacy recalls the Communist Party’s attack on social democracy as “social fascism.” Just American aesthetics are the new socialist realism.
     
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/george-packer-four-americas/619012/

    Replies: @Forbes

    Packer is a standard bred left-liberal Democrat, who’s trying to avoid cancellation by the woke mob.

    He had a small amount of red-pilling in NYC’s school scrums. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/10/when-the-culture-war-comes-for-the-kids/596668/
    Covered elsewhere here: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-progressive-dystopia-of-nyc-schools/

  110. @PaceLaw
    “To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go ‘too far.’”

    This simple-minded fellow seems to get awfully pouty when people do not agree with him 100% down the line. He seems absolutely flabbergasted that people do not wholly accept his ideas concerning “remedies and reparations”. The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Forbes, @Peter D. Bredon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @SMK, @profnasty

    “It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us.”

    Maybe we just can’t grasp Kendi’s genius.

  111. @Servant of Gla'aki
    Ibram X. Kendi missed his true calling.

    He should be one of those homeless Black derelicts who loudly accosts you in public, in order to inform you that he is the risen Jesus Christ.

    Admittedly, this pays better.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Admittedly, this pays better.”

    Good money in cults that draw in stupid wealthy white people.

  112. anon[168] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThreeCranes
    @PaceLaw


    "The last U.S. census slave schedules were enumerated by County in 1860 and included 393,975 named persons holding 3,950,546 unnamed slaves, or an average of about ten slaves per holder. The actual number of slaveholders may be slightly lower because some large holders held slaves in more than one County and they would have been counted as a separate slaveholder in each County. Excluding slaves, the 1860 U.S. population was 27,167,529, with about 1 in 70 being a slaveholder. It is estimated by this transcriber that in 1860, slaveholders of 200 or more slaves, while constituting less than 1 % of the total number of U.S. slaveholders, or 1 out of 7,000 free persons, held 20-30% of the total number of slaves in the U.S."
     
    from the MSGen Web Project.

    That's right, you're eyes aren't deceiving you. Only 1 out of 70 citizens of the USA in 1860 owned slaves. And as many whites immigrated to the USA since 1860 as lived here then. That means, that if each group bred true (slave owners and non-slave owners--not plausible, I know, but a necessary assumption to grasp the essential point) then only one out of 140 Americans are descended from slaveowners--and some of those slave owners were black!. So, fewer than 1 out of 140 American whites are descended from former slave owners.

    And we whites are expected to pay reparations? For what? For the simple coincidence of having lived in the USA at the same time as African blacks? There's no more cogent causal connection than that; that's the best they've got. You're white, your ancestors lived in America, now hand over the dough.

    That's extortion. Or highway robbery. Either way, crimes. And inasmuch as criminal behavior is common among blacks, Ibram X. Kendi is simply behaving true to Form. And this greed for an easy, fast buck is precisely why blacks accrue so little wealth.

    Replies: @anon, @Elli, @John Milton’s Ghost

    . So, fewer than 1 out of 140 American whites are descended from former slave owners.

    Some Americans are descended from men who so hated slavery, they put on a blue suit, accepted Uncle Sam’s rifle and went where they were sent. Places like Cold Harbor, Vicksburg, Gettysburg, Petersburg, etc. Those Americans are supposed to pay whom for what actions, again?

  113. @John Derbyshire
    @Reg Cæsar

    Whoa there, Bubba: https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2016-01-01.html#06

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    Czechitania, from the Prisoner of Czenda, has a little more heft.

  114. @Yancey Ward
    And when reparations don't fix the inequality, what will Kendi write then? Of course, that it wasn't enough.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @bomag, @usNthem, @SMK, @AceDeuce, @SMK

    “(T)o say something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.” Under this definition, Kendi is a “racist.” But, of course,” blacks can’t be racists.”

  115. @AndrewR
    @vhrm

    Why validate his dishonest language? "Different" and "wrong" mean different things. There isn't anything "wrong" with Indians for not being highly represented among elite global track and field stars. Nor is it "wrong" for black Americans to have a median 85 IQ. It is what it is.

    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, "racist policy," or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the "racist" white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn't serve to shake down whites for eternity.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @bomag, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @vhrm

    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, “racist policy,” or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn’t serve to shake down whites for eternity.

    There exists no known or postulated external or internal cultural change that would close the avg score gap on SATs between blacks and whites (or between whites and east Asians or jews and gentile whites).

    Getting some people not to carjack or shoot at crowds is certainly a mutable culture, but the majority of blacks (and latinos and whites and everyone else) already don do that. Same as most people don’t get suspended from school.

    However, given a certain set of rules against violence and acting out enforced color blindly, you’ll have more blacks breaking them than whites than asians. (and more men breaking them then women )

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @vhrm

    Blacks disrupt classrooms to avoid losing face (ironically blacks are like Japanese in this respect) in a way that white students just don't do and if you have a teacher who doesn't know how to handle this that classroom can go without meaningful learning indefinitely.

    I found reasonably bright blacks (it doesn't take a 130 IQ to do basic algebra) who had no automaticity whatsoever likely because they had a poor teacher the year multiplication was taught and so never learned it then were socially promoted from there. It's one SD not three. There is gross underperformance compared to capacity in ways that lend themselves to some amelioration given the right incentives.

    Not enough to make up for mismatch but enough that nature isn't the whole story. The gap might not change much if education is taken seriously since whites have been underperforming themselves in their own way.

  116. @photondancer
    I stopped visiting The Atlantic's website. They've been phoning it in for a long time now. If the articles aren't already being churned out by an AI program they certainly will be soon, the content is so predictable.

    Replies: @Hans

    I used to take the Atlantic, but my proctologist insisted I stop. Things have improved since.

    • LOL: photondancer
  117. @PaceLaw
    “To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go ‘too far.’”

    This simple-minded fellow seems to get awfully pouty when people do not agree with him 100% down the line. He seems absolutely flabbergasted that people do not wholly accept his ideas concerning “remedies and reparations”. The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Forbes, @Peter D. Bredon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @SMK, @profnasty

    Savor the irony: pseudo-intellectual charlatans and mediocrities and psychotics like Kendi and T.Coates and their ilk are apotheosized by a culture and zeitgeist that they contend is defined by “systemic racism” and “white supremacy.”

  118. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:

    1619 Woman not getting tenure is a terrible rallying point/bloody shirt, even for the audience it’s aimed at (postgrad drudges, The Daily Show viewers, nonprofit seatwarmers). Not only do they each know dozens of better qualified instructors who didnt get tenure, it’s pretty likely they are not surprised by its not happening to anyone, let alone 1619 Woman who has fewer followers than some knitting vloggers.

  119. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/martok114/status/1407806668826677250?s=20

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1394106820839362564?s=20

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Seneca44

    The left is really loving this homily from General Milley, but, as usual, he makes a false comparison when he says that he read Mao and Lenin but did not become a communist. If the military powers that be were presenting critical race theory as a failed philosophy like communism then it would be acceptable in a historical context. Instead, CRT is presented as a litmus test for future progress in the religion–non-believers need not apply for promotion.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @anon
    @Seneca44

    When Obama set about to purge the military he did not hold back. Gen. Milley is a survivor of that purge, and apparently quite an enthusiastic, true believing survivor. Just as the Chief of Naval Operations who is likewise a big fan of CRT. These are the people who are now overseeing the hunt for "white supremacy" in the lower ranks.

    One of Trump's errors was he failed to run the same purge of upper ranks in order to remove as many of Obama's picks as possible. Attitudes flow from the top down, and in the DOD the top is Obama's team.

  120. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Muggles

    "Ibram-X-Kendi is just another fake race hustler."

    Now that he's wealthy look for Kendi to abandon anti-racism for the lived experience of an existentialist philosopher in the South of France.

    Replies: @Muggles

    Now that he’s wealthy look for Kendi to abandon anti-racism for the lived experience of an existentialist philosopher in the South of France.

    You will be able to contact him at : Kindi X Sartre, Cap Ferrat, Cote de Azure, France.

  121. @vhrm


    The cause of racial inequity is either racist policy or racial hierarchy. The racial problem is the result of bad policies or bad people. … Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy. Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.
     

     
    This really is the crux of it and it's this dichotomy (which then led me to iSteve back then) red-pilled me to HBD about a decade ago.

    The observational studies have been done. The intervention studies have been done. Over and over. And it's all been done by liberals and progressives, because they've owned sociology and education for many decades now.

    After all that those really ARE the only two options. And looking at all the studies and interventions it's clear that Murray is more right and Kendi and the rest of the wokes are mostly wrong.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Forbes, @Bannon

    I was always willing to believe the apparent differences in people groups along lines of academic achievement (i.e. test scores) and violent crime was potentially due to circumstances. That is, until the modern Identarian Left forced me to choose between (1) innate group differences or (2) white racism as causes.

    I used to think it was bad strategy by them — after all, why would I choose the option that I know to be false (that white people are causing black problems) when it goes against my family, my children, my whole community?

    But then sometimes now I think they know what they are doing — they want to bring about a showdown. Because they’ve figured that most of western civilization will choose collective suicide over thinking the Unthinkable Truth.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Bannon


    But then sometimes now I think they know what they are doing — they want to bring about a showdown. Because they’ve figured that most of western civilization will choose collective suicide over thinking the Unthinkable Truth.
     
    Most people who espouse this stuff, especially the academics, are true believers, i believe. They honestly think white people, logical thinking, etc. are holding POCs down and that Wakanda would exist if it wasn't for whites and the west having prevented it.

    And those who ARE cynical to whatever level don't want a showdown because they depend on and enjoy living in a nice western country. They don't want to live in a Zimbabwe; they just want to have their secure job, moral superiority, etc.
  122. https://americanmind.substack.com/p/mil-fragility

  123. @NOTA
    @Achilleus

    Reality is usually messier than good rhetoric.

    Some black/white differences are genetic in origin, some are cultural, some are based on their situation. For example, the high rate of illegitimacy among blacks is clearly cultural and may largely be a knock-on effect of how early welfare programs were designed. The geographical distribution of blacks is largely driven by slavery and later oppressive laws sending a large
    diaspora of Southern blacks up to Northern cities. The higher rate of high blood pressure and heart disease among blacks is probably genetic in origin (though aggravated by cultural stuff like a Southern diet).

    To understand the world, you have to care more about being right in each specific case than you do about soaring rhetoric. I haven't read Kendi's books, but my impression of him is that he cares a lot about soaring rhetoric. I have read a bunch of Murray's books, and he clearly cares about understanding the world.

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Art Deco

    For example, the high rate of illegitimacy among blacks is clearly cultural and may largely be a knock-on effect of how early welfare programs were designed.

    You may want to read up on the work of Phillip Rushton and his theories on Life History Strategies. I would recommend reading Ed Dutton’s book “Making Sense of Race”. There’s more going on with illegitimacy than just culture.

  124. @vhrm
    @AndrewR


    Of course differences between groups can be caused by genes, “racist policy,” or a third option you and Kendi pretend to not be aware of: mutable culture. While blacks are limited as a group by their genes, they do possess the ability to change their culture for the better independently of the “racist” white man. Kendi, of course, dismisses this fact outright because it doesn’t serve to shake down whites for eternity.
     
    There exists no known or postulated external or internal cultural change that would close the avg score gap on SATs between blacks and whites (or between whites and east Asians or jews and gentile whites).

    Getting some people not to carjack or shoot at crowds is certainly a mutable culture, but the majority of blacks (and latinos and whites and everyone else) already don do that. Same as most people don't get suspended from school.

    However, given a certain set of rules against violence and acting out enforced color blindly, you'll have more blacks breaking them than whites than asians. (and more men breaking them then women )

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Blacks disrupt classrooms to avoid losing face (ironically blacks are like Japanese in this respect) in a way that white students just don’t do and if you have a teacher who doesn’t know how to handle this that classroom can go without meaningful learning indefinitely.

    I found reasonably bright blacks (it doesn’t take a 130 IQ to do basic algebra) who had no automaticity whatsoever likely because they had a poor teacher the year multiplication was taught and so never learned it then were socially promoted from there. It’s one SD not three. There is gross underperformance compared to capacity in ways that lend themselves to some amelioration given the right incentives.

    Not enough to make up for mismatch but enough that nature isn’t the whole story. The gap might not change much if education is taken seriously since whites have been underperforming themselves in their own way.

  125. @James Speaks

    where assault rifles aren’t used to commit mass murder,
     
    uh, that would be handguns.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

    Replies: @bomag, @SMK

    Ironically, almost everthing he says about whites as a group and their “racism” is true of himself and other “theorists” of “critical race theory” and “intersectionality.” And. to lesser degree, of blacks generally. To elaborate, point by point, would be exhausting and monotonous.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @SMK

    A shorter version of his screed would be:

    Regardless of all these factual data supporting HBD, I prefer to blame whites for everything we negroes do and are. It's probably whitey's fault that my skin is dark.

  126. @ThreeCranes
    @PaceLaw


    "The last U.S. census slave schedules were enumerated by County in 1860 and included 393,975 named persons holding 3,950,546 unnamed slaves, or an average of about ten slaves per holder. The actual number of slaveholders may be slightly lower because some large holders held slaves in more than one County and they would have been counted as a separate slaveholder in each County. Excluding slaves, the 1860 U.S. population was 27,167,529, with about 1 in 70 being a slaveholder. It is estimated by this transcriber that in 1860, slaveholders of 200 or more slaves, while constituting less than 1 % of the total number of U.S. slaveholders, or 1 out of 7,000 free persons, held 20-30% of the total number of slaves in the U.S."
     
    from the MSGen Web Project.

    That's right, you're eyes aren't deceiving you. Only 1 out of 70 citizens of the USA in 1860 owned slaves. And as many whites immigrated to the USA since 1860 as lived here then. That means, that if each group bred true (slave owners and non-slave owners--not plausible, I know, but a necessary assumption to grasp the essential point) then only one out of 140 Americans are descended from slaveowners--and some of those slave owners were black!. So, fewer than 1 out of 140 American whites are descended from former slave owners.

    And we whites are expected to pay reparations? For what? For the simple coincidence of having lived in the USA at the same time as African blacks? There's no more cogent causal connection than that; that's the best they've got. You're white, your ancestors lived in America, now hand over the dough.

    That's extortion. Or highway robbery. Either way, crimes. And inasmuch as criminal behavior is common among blacks, Ibram X. Kendi is simply behaving true to Form. And this greed for an easy, fast buck is precisely why blacks accrue so little wealth.

    Replies: @anon, @Elli, @John Milton’s Ghost

    I think Kendi’s idea is that in the long run whites have benefited, blacks have suffered from slavery and the racist aftermath. It isn’t to do with individual guilt or innocence. It’s as if one child were favored, the other abused and disinherited through the father’s wickedness, and generations later, the descendants of the disinherited still suffer.

    My great great great grandfather owned 20 slaves. His grandson my great grandfather was born dirt poor, had a fourth grade education. With hard work and intelligence, he became a man of property. He hated black people, though he didn’t persecute them, just steered clear.

    Black Southerners didn’t really have his chance to work their way up for three more generations, say 1970. Since then our elite have destroyed the blue collar job and promoted sexual license which destroys the family.

    You can’t accumulate family wealth without family stability.

    You can’t live one life and gain the benefits of another.

    • Agree: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @Elli

    Blacks were polygamous in Africa. Because that is outlawed here, their innate tendency towards family structure has decayed into a free for all. It just doesn't work well in a society in which the best way to accrue wealth is through generations of steadfast monogamy.

  127. @PaceLaw
    “To the American people, our expertise simultaneously exists and doesn’t. It exists when people believe us. It doesn’t exist when people don’t believe us. Our remedies and reparations for racism are rejected when they go ‘too far.’”

    This simple-minded fellow seems to get awfully pouty when people do not agree with him 100% down the line. He seems absolutely flabbergasted that people do not wholly accept his ideas concerning “remedies and reparations”. The megalomania on display here is truly breathtaking. It damn near seems as if Ibram now thinks of himself as a god walking amongst simple, dimwitted mortals. After all, who can argue with a god???

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Forbes, @Peter D. Bredon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @SMK, @profnasty

    What am ‘Free Shit’?

  128. @gregor

    Either Black girls are six times as likely to be expelled from school as white girls because they misbehave more—or the inequity is caused by racist policy. To believe in racial hierarchy, to say that something is wrong with a racial group, is to express racist ideas.
     
    The usual out here is to claim that black underperformance is “cultural” and that this is a legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. So even though things have improved, the reverberations of past discrimination are still felt. This shifts the blame to whites who are no longer alive.

    Maybe some people still believe that. But sixty years after civil rights and affirmative action, I don’t think anyone deep down expects outcomes to ever equalize. To improve black outcomes you’d need to implement more “white supremacy” (i.e., imposition of white standards of behavior), not less. Elimination of “white supremacy” means no standards and that means further black degeneration. To produce actual “equality” between blacks and whites, you’d have to put whites in concentration camps or something.

    Replies: @Achilleus, @profnasty

    Don’t think (They) haven’t thought of that.

  129. “You can run, but not hide, from the US tax monster”

    THAT, depends on who you are and who your friends are.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-panama-papers

    • Agree: photondancer
  130. @Muggles
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk


    OT,but this is a bit shocking. John McAfee,the virus guy, has been found dead in his jail cell in Spain. I’ve followed his (mis)adventures in Latin America. Somehow he wound up in Spain and supposedly committed suicide.
    Strange!
     
    Not so strange. He was "on the run" in various places outside of the US for the last several years. IRS tax problems.

    He would tweet or online brag about being "free" but was just on the run from US tax laws and extradition. At age 75 he wanted to write his own ending, not die in 10 years in some federal prison cell. Being extradited to the US by Spanish authorities.

    Of course despite his talk of "freedom" it was always about him. Not you. Sad ending but not sinister. Who would bother killing him? Just another sociopath/narcissist/histrionic personality who finally ran into reality the hard way.

    You can run, but not hide, from the US tax monster. Like the mafia, you gotta pay their tax.

    Replies: @profnasty

    John specifically and resolutely stated he would NOT commit suicide.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @profnasty


    John specifically and resolutely stated he would NOT commit suicide
     
    Re: McAfee's death.

    Defiant personality types sometimes say that while incarcerated but subsequently change their minds. McAfee was hardly someone you could believe on faith alone.

    After years of being on the run dodging Uncle Sam and his long arms, getting nabbed must have been a huge letdown. Since he more or less admitted the feds had him on the tax beef, he wasn't going to get bail or much of a deal, if any. He would die in a US prison. He chose a Spanish one.

    His original claim about not taking his own life was probably to create doubt and maintain his image as someone hounded and persecuted. His hanging himself was his dramatic FU to the feds. From what I read his own attorneys don't seem to doubt the Spanish authorities.

    If there is further hard evidence to suspect suicide, let's see it. Drama queens like McAfee don't do well locked up with the other losers. His prior histrionic/narcissistic behavior suggests he once again failed to do what he said he would *not* do.

    I don't like the US tax system. I don't like rich blowhards either. Especially when they try to turn their personal problems (and greed) into some public crusade.

    If you want him to be your martyr, be my guest.
  131. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achilleus


    if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”
     
    That's how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won't even use it themselves.

    Côte d'Ivoire and Timor Leste at least have the excuse of lessening confusion. And they're in colonial languages.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @Catdog, @Muggles, @Česko, @Rob McX

    The hill you chose to die on says a lot about you. Since you’re so good with words, I suggest you come up with your own designations of horrible country names, such as Russia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Albania, Georgia, Armenia, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Australia, Bolivia etc. Good thing Germany isn’t called Germania anymore.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Česko


    I suggest you come up with your own designations of horrible country names...
     
    I prefer beautiful, evocative names, such as these:


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Czech_Rep._-_Bohemia%2C_Moravia_and_Silesia_III_%28en%29.png



    The name of our currency, and that of many other countries', came from a village in Karlovy Vary, 501 years ago. We thank you for that gift!


    Welcome to Jáchymov: the Czech town that invented the dollar

    Jáchymov: the Birthplace of the Dollar

    Predecessor of US dollar minted 500 years ago in Jáchymov

    Royal Mint Jáchymov Museum
  132. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seneca44
    @Desiderius

    The left is really loving this homily from General Milley, but, as usual, he makes a false comparison when he says that he read Mao and Lenin but did not become a communist. If the military powers that be were presenting critical race theory as a failed philosophy like communism then it would be acceptable in a historical context. Instead, CRT is presented as a litmus test for future progress in the religion--non-believers need not apply for promotion.

    Replies: @anon

    When Obama set about to purge the military he did not hold back. Gen. Milley is a survivor of that purge, and apparently quite an enthusiastic, true believing survivor. Just as the Chief of Naval Operations who is likewise a big fan of CRT. These are the people who are now overseeing the hunt for “white supremacy” in the lower ranks.

    One of Trump’s errors was he failed to run the same purge of upper ranks in order to remove as many of Obama’s picks as possible. Attitudes flow from the top down, and in the DOD the top is Obama’s team.

  133. I don’t care if Kendi is right or wrong. All I need to know is that the things he would have us do to advance his agenda would be bad for us, and that’s all the justification we should need to oppose him and all others like him.

    • Replies: @aj54
    @anon215

    I think the fitness of his arguments should absolutely matter. I believe there has been insufficient pushback against some of the crackpot ideas some Blacks embrace that make them feel superior to other races. The 1619 Project is a good example. It states that it is an imaginary, not a fact based, exercise in reframing history. Why it would be included in curricula is a sign of a real problem. It is imperative that we find some coherent arguments to counterpoint every time they present their opinion as fact.

  134. @Bannon
    @vhrm

    I was always willing to believe the apparent differences in people groups along lines of academic achievement (i.e. test scores) and violent crime was potentially due to circumstances. That is, until the modern Identarian Left forced me to choose between (1) innate group differences or (2) white racism as causes.

    I used to think it was bad strategy by them -- after all, why would I choose the option that I know to be false (that white people are causing black problems) when it goes against my family, my children, my whole community?

    But then sometimes now I think they know what they are doing -- they want to bring about a showdown. Because they've figured that most of western civilization will choose collective suicide over thinking the Unthinkable Truth.

    Replies: @vhrm

    But then sometimes now I think they know what they are doing — they want to bring about a showdown. Because they’ve figured that most of western civilization will choose collective suicide over thinking the Unthinkable Truth.

    Most people who espouse this stuff, especially the academics, are true believers, i believe. They honestly think white people, logical thinking, etc. are holding POCs down and that Wakanda would exist if it wasn’t for whites and the west having prevented it.

    And those who ARE cynical to whatever level don’t want a showdown because they depend on and enjoy living in a nice western country. They don’t want to live in a Zimbabwe; they just want to have their secure job, moral superiority, etc.

  135. @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    Six men and six women produce twelve children. That’s barely keeping up.
     
    In the future, all white families will be Mormon families (with 5% black adoptees.) And likely have the last name Romney.

    https://i.imgur.com/p1IZWl9.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @bomag, @Anon, @Peter D. Bredon

    There won’t be any “white” families in the future, because the Mormon’s Chief Prophet and Bottlewasher, or whatever he’s called, got a message from God telling him that the negroes were equal.

    An irrational cult is no protection for white identity.

  136. “𝘐 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢 𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘺 𝘧𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘥𝘢𝘺 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘣𝘦 𝘫𝘶𝘥𝘨𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘰𝘳 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘴𝘬𝘪𝘯, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘳.” — Martin Luther King[1].

    Ibram X. Kendi, notable claimant for the existence of “systemic racism” and proponent for the teaching of “Critical Race Theory” has now proclaimed Martin Luther King a “racist” with his “[𝘵]𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘢 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘴𝘰𝘱𝘩𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘵 𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘢 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘦𝘥.”[2]
    Can we all now agree that the claims associated with “Critical Race Theory” (CRT) have jumped the shark, from merely false claims, into absurdity?

    I understand Dr. Kendi’s desire to distract from inconvenient facts like very high black crime rates[3] and low black aggregate performance on standardized tests of intelligence[4] but he and CRT advocates are now just digging themselves into a deeper and deeper beclownment hole. Reality is not optional.

    Ref.
    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream
    [2] https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/06/our-new-postracial-myth/619261/
    [3] Blacks, in the US in 2019, committed murder at a per capita rate 8.2 times LARGER than that of the non-black population; https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls
    [4] Aggregate black IQ in the US is c. 1 standard deviation lower than non-black IQ; “Many narrative reviews of the empirical literature in the area focus on Black–White differences, and reviews conclude that the mean difference in cognitive ability is approximately 1 standard deviation; that is, the generally accepted effect size is about 1.0.”; Roth, P. L., Bevier, C. A., Bobko, P., Switzer, F. S. III, & Tyler, P. (2001). Ethnic group differences in cognitive ability in employment and educational settings: A meta-analysis. Personnel Psychology, 54(2), 297–330. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1744-6570.2001.tb00094.x

  137. @Dieter Kief

    Ibram X. Kendi Makes My Point for Me
     
    So be it. It will not make much of a difference, because Dr. Ibram X. Kendi is able to play a superior trick on you, Mr. host: To say something without knowing it. - Now the ball is in your field. You're simply not capable of such sophistication, are ya? - See - - the trendy / Dr. Kendi-brother comes out ahead of you in this one, ya old sribbler of trash / forgotten paper-scratcher. Hehe.


    Ron Pagett / Poem
    ...Personality no good
    All surface no inner strength
    I might die an old man
    Scribbler of trash
    Forgotten paper-scratcher ...

    Replies: @Toteswoke

    What?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Toteswoke

    Thanks for asking, Toteswoke.

    - what's up is - role-prose - I'm switching heads here. First I'm inside my own, then I'm inside Kendi's head.

    Old technique in essay-writing not least - to change perspectives. Kendi is the hip guy now and hip beats - differentiated argumentation any time these days - because differentiation (something Steve Sailer just excels in) is so old-fashioned like - scribbling on paper and some such.
    The Kendi-part with me being in Kendi's head starts thus from trendy Dr. Kendi-brother on.

    The self-deprecating part is from a real (ironic & nice) autobiographical poem by a real American poet, Ron Padgett - who did work with Jim Jarmusch on his movie about - a poet, Paterson - who works as a laconic bus driver.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8pGJBgiiDU

  138. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/ARKloster/status/1408112280076800007?s=20

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  139. @Polistra

    The cause of racial inequity is either racist policy or racial hierarchy.
     
    Because! I! Say! So!

    The racial problem is the result of bad policies or bad people.
     
    Because! I! Say! So!

    Either Black and Latino people are the least likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because there’s something wrong with them—or the inequity stems from racist policy.
     
    Does being lazy, stupid, and superstitious mean something's wrong with them?

    I wouldn't go that far, Ibram--would you? What would that make you, then?

    Replies: @Polemos

    If you think Kendi is making an “I Say So” argument, do you think Sailer is making that argument, too? I mean, he’s saying that Kendi makes his own point . . . in the title.

  140. @SMK
    @James Speaks

    Ironically, almost everthing he says about whites as a group and their "racism" is true of himself and other "theorists" of "critical race theory" and "intersectionality." And. to lesser degree, of blacks generally. To elaborate, point by point, would be exhausting and monotonous.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    A shorter version of his screed would be:

    Regardless of all these factual data supporting HBD, I prefer to blame whites for everything we negroes do and are. It’s probably whitey’s fault that my skin is dark.

  141. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @RichardTaylor

    "They want to help them keep credibility by getting them to be more realistic about race, but avoid bringing about an actual pro-White politics."

    In the Current Year, is that strategy sustainable, given the realities of CRT, Woke Politics, etc? The answer is no.

    Because normie whites can look around and see every single other racial group being permitted to have racial pride in their race per se, and that Uncle Sam even encourages it, and yet they are the one group that is not only not permitted to have racial pride, but they are explicitly targeted for being white, then what conclusion are they expected to come to? And they are expected to tolerate this situation forever going forward, and some are beginning to question why they should be content and satisfied with this current arrangement, where every single action that they do is racist and that they as whites are permanently on trial for something that they have no control over (their race).

    Unfortunately, people like Charles Murray are still mentally living in the late '80's, early '90's, when the Bell Curve was first released. It is people like Murray that will blink and fold up when directly challenged by Kendi to "prove" that he is not personally a racist, and that his entire body of work isn't racist ipso facto, because after all, Murray himself isn't a POC, so why should anyone trust his work?

    I once made mention that Steve is in a similar situation to the great sixteenth century scholar Erasmus: caught in the crossfires of a new revolutionary way of viewing the world (in his case, it was the Protestant Reformation), while trying to preserve the older, traditional way of thinking. (e.g. the US should preserve the colorblind society idea that was so popular as an idea during mid. century US). Well, that way is gone, perhaps forever. And so too is the notion of a post-racial society.


    Civic Nationalism only made sense during the time period it was used in practice: ca. 1945-1992. Since then it hasn't been a viable option, period. And things over the past decade have indicated that the US isn't going to return to Civ. Nat. anytime soon.

    Perhaps in its final analysis, Civic Nationalism only worked when the US had little to no immigration, and the population was well over 80% white. These were the observations of the late Sam Francis decades ago. He forewarned precisely where these things would lead to.

    Question: What exactly did Charles Murray say regarding Sam Francis' warnings about early CRT? Did he embrace Sam Francis' warnings, or did he at the time, do like all the rest and call him a racist, fearmonger, so far off reality (it couldn't possibly happen in the US), etc.

    Charles Murray genuinely appears dumbfounded that these problems are coming to a head in the public square, when he apparently wasn't paying attention when Sam Francis, Joseph Sobran, Jared Taylor, even Pat Buchanan were sounding the alarm regarding these problems a couple of decades ago. Wonder why he couldn't be bothered decades ago, or couldn't have lent his voice to the problems coming just over the horizon? Was it because these aforementioned people were considered racist and thus outside the pale of conversation, but now that Charles Murray is mentioning these things, then that now suddenly makes it a-okay to bring the topics up?

    What will people like Abrahim Kendi conclude about Charles Murray's bringing up these things, the same things that Francis, Sobran, Taylor, etc brought up decades ago?

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @ATBOTL

    Charles Murray genuinely appears dumbfounded that these problems are coming to a head in the public square, when he apparently wasn’t paying attention when Sam Francis, Joseph Sobran, Jared Taylor, even Pat Buchanan were sounding the alarm regarding these problems a couple of decades ago

    Thanks for mentioning Sobran and Sam Francis.

    Charles Murray gives a bit more mathematical understanding of racial differences on IQ and such, but nothing more. As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with Blacks knew all this 400 years ago.

    If “really nice” MidWesterners hadn’t rejected the lived experience of White Southerners, they would have been wise generations ago. Or they could have talked to South Africans. It doesn’t strike me as “nice” to throw other Whites under the bus and proceed as if Murray and company are moral creatures but all the other Whites were “racists” and should be discarded.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @RichardTaylor


    Charles Murray gives a bit more mathematical understanding of racial differences on IQ and such, but nothing more. As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with Blacks knew all this 400 years ago.

    If “really nice” MidWesterners hadn’t rejected the lived experience of White Southerners, they would have been wise generations ago.
     
    Not "all this". 400 years ago people back then underestimated the moral, intellectual and social abilities of black people.

    The main "race problem" in the US currently, call it P1, is not that blacks have lower avg IQ and (prob) higher avg impulsivity etc and the downstream behavioral differences. The _problem_ is that Kendi and the CRTers blame those differences on whites and racism and the downstream policy and social implications of THAT.

    It is only a secondary and comparatively minor problem (call it P2) that our population overall is less intelligent and more violent than it otherwise would be. Dumb and/or violent blacks are not inherently any more of a problem than dumb and/or violent whites and dumb and/or violent asians.

    As the image you (?) used in your review of Murray's book shows there are about equal numbers of 80 IQ whites than 80 IQ blacks in the US. It's not great but we, society, can deal with it.
    https://www.amren.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/BellCurve-600x338.jpg

    If P1 didn't exist then P2 would be the main problem, but it's been something the US and the world had come to grips with. Blacks are and can be happy and productive members of American society as so many of them are, but they'll just be underrepresented in right tail professions and positions and over-represented in left tail ones (as they already are) and they'll be overrepresented in jail ( as they already are).

    The realization is that there's nothing wrong or racist about that and that it's ok and expected and we should get back to focusing on going to Mars, eating (possibly plant based) burgers with our friends and watching TV.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with [b]lacks knew all this 400 years ago.
     
    So why were they invited here? What good have they ever done us?

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  142. @profnasty
    @Muggles

    John specifically and resolutely stated he would NOT commit suicide.

    Replies: @Muggles

    John specifically and resolutely stated he would NOT commit suicide

    Re: McAfee’s death.

    Defiant personality types sometimes say that while incarcerated but subsequently change their minds. McAfee was hardly someone you could believe on faith alone.

    After years of being on the run dodging Uncle Sam and his long arms, getting nabbed must have been a huge letdown. Since he more or less admitted the feds had him on the tax beef, he wasn’t going to get bail or much of a deal, if any. He would die in a US prison. He chose a Spanish one.

    His original claim about not taking his own life was probably to create doubt and maintain his image as someone hounded and persecuted. His hanging himself was his dramatic FU to the feds. From what I read his own attorneys don’t seem to doubt the Spanish authorities.

    If there is further hard evidence to suspect suicide, let’s see it. Drama queens like McAfee don’t do well locked up with the other losers. His prior histrionic/narcissistic behavior suggests he once again failed to do what he said he would *not* do.

    I don’t like the US tax system. I don’t like rich blowhards either. Especially when they try to turn their personal problems (and greed) into some public crusade.

    If you want him to be your martyr, be my guest.

  143. @Forbes
    @PaceLaw

    Harry beat me to it. The amount of money showered on him has to result in a Teflon and bulletproof ego.

    But I wonder, how can the former Ibram Henry Rogers, under the guise of Ibram X. Kendi (self-identity/self-invention much?), accept the "named" professorship of a white man, Andrew W. Mellon??

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    How many lavishly funded “named” professorships have black men and women endowed? And of those, how many are at HBCU’s like Howard, Fisk, Morehouse, Spelman, Grambling, etc.? Most, I bet. A gift of, say, half a million, to an HBCU is probably enough to endow a chair, or at least a nice ottoman. At a school the size and relative status of Boston University (never mind schools with more money and stronger academic reputations), half a million would barely rate a call from the Development Office.

    When it comes to comfortable academic sinecures, there is no black or white: there is only green.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  144. @AndrewR
    @Desiderius

    The libtoids in (((Dave Brown's))) mentions are all YASS QUEEN about Milley and seething with hatred towards Gaetz.

    But overall I think it's good the military is mask off now. Any white man worth a tenth of a shit will either get out of the military or refuse to go in now. Imagine risking your life for a country that openly despises you and your children.

    And Milley is so disingenuous. He says people should be well-read, which of course is true, but why are servicemen not being encouraged to read pro-white books? Anti-Semitic books? They only want you to read anti-white books then declare yourself well-reqd.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    That’s not how it works. You can’t just walk out and go to another country right down the street. Your choices are fight or fight. You give it your best shot then if you lose flight becomes an option or maybe a necessity as it was for our ancestors.

    This is your brain one free-market libertarianism. It’s a narrow economic theory not a philosophy of life for God’s sake. Your descendants won’t forgive you if you don’t put up a fight while you still can and they end up in some backwater. Your ancestors probably won’t be too thrilled either.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Desiderius

    I think you replied to the wrong person, big guy

  145. @Desiderius
    @AndrewR

    That's not how it works. You can't just walk out and go to another country right down the street. Your choices are fight or fight. You give it your best shot then if you lose flight becomes an option or maybe a necessity as it was for our ancestors.

    This is your brain one free-market libertarianism. It's a narrow economic theory not a philosophy of life for God's sake. Your descendants won't forgive you if you don't put up a fight while you still can and they end up in some backwater. Your ancestors probably won't be too thrilled either.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    I think you replied to the wrong person, big guy

  146. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @RichardTaylor

    "They want to help them keep credibility by getting them to be more realistic about race, but avoid bringing about an actual pro-White politics."

    In the Current Year, is that strategy sustainable, given the realities of CRT, Woke Politics, etc? The answer is no.

    Because normie whites can look around and see every single other racial group being permitted to have racial pride in their race per se, and that Uncle Sam even encourages it, and yet they are the one group that is not only not permitted to have racial pride, but they are explicitly targeted for being white, then what conclusion are they expected to come to? And they are expected to tolerate this situation forever going forward, and some are beginning to question why they should be content and satisfied with this current arrangement, where every single action that they do is racist and that they as whites are permanently on trial for something that they have no control over (their race).

    Unfortunately, people like Charles Murray are still mentally living in the late '80's, early '90's, when the Bell Curve was first released. It is people like Murray that will blink and fold up when directly challenged by Kendi to "prove" that he is not personally a racist, and that his entire body of work isn't racist ipso facto, because after all, Murray himself isn't a POC, so why should anyone trust his work?

    I once made mention that Steve is in a similar situation to the great sixteenth century scholar Erasmus: caught in the crossfires of a new revolutionary way of viewing the world (in his case, it was the Protestant Reformation), while trying to preserve the older, traditional way of thinking. (e.g. the US should preserve the colorblind society idea that was so popular as an idea during mid. century US). Well, that way is gone, perhaps forever. And so too is the notion of a post-racial society.


    Civic Nationalism only made sense during the time period it was used in practice: ca. 1945-1992. Since then it hasn't been a viable option, period. And things over the past decade have indicated that the US isn't going to return to Civ. Nat. anytime soon.

    Perhaps in its final analysis, Civic Nationalism only worked when the US had little to no immigration, and the population was well over 80% white. These were the observations of the late Sam Francis decades ago. He forewarned precisely where these things would lead to.

    Question: What exactly did Charles Murray say regarding Sam Francis' warnings about early CRT? Did he embrace Sam Francis' warnings, or did he at the time, do like all the rest and call him a racist, fearmonger, so far off reality (it couldn't possibly happen in the US), etc.

    Charles Murray genuinely appears dumbfounded that these problems are coming to a head in the public square, when he apparently wasn't paying attention when Sam Francis, Joseph Sobran, Jared Taylor, even Pat Buchanan were sounding the alarm regarding these problems a couple of decades ago. Wonder why he couldn't be bothered decades ago, or couldn't have lent his voice to the problems coming just over the horizon? Was it because these aforementioned people were considered racist and thus outside the pale of conversation, but now that Charles Murray is mentioning these things, then that now suddenly makes it a-okay to bring the topics up?

    What will people like Abrahim Kendi conclude about Charles Murray's bringing up these things, the same things that Francis, Sobran, Taylor, etc brought up decades ago?

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @ATBOTL

    White nationalism has never been more inevitable than it is now.

  147. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achilleus


    if I subscribe to any idea of Jordan Peterson’s, it is “you don’t get to decide the words I use to describe you”
     
    That's how I feel about Beijing, Mumbai, Myanmar, Belarus, and, most of all, Czechia. The last is so bad they won't even use it themselves.

    Côte d'Ivoire and Timor Leste at least have the excuse of lessening confusion. And they're in colonial languages.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @Catdog, @Muggles, @Česko, @Rob McX

    Belarus was mostly referred to as Byelorussia before it got its present name. Its international car registration code – BY – seems to reflect that (all the letters on car registration plates of European countries have to use either Roman letters or – in the case of the Cyrillic or Greek alphabet – those letters of the alphabet that resemble Roman ones).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    Belarus was mostly referred to as Byelorussia before it got its present name.
     
    All of her neighbors use a literal translation of "White Russia" into the vernacular. We should, too.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus#/languages

    Weißrussland, amtliche Kurzform Belarus [ˈbeːlaˌʁʊs]/[ˈbɛlaˌʁʊs] (weißrussisch/russisch Беларусь bzw. traditionell russisch Белоруссия Belorussija; amtliche Vollform: Рэспубліка Беларусь (weißrussisch) bzw. Республика Беларусь (russisch), deutsche Transkription Respublika Belarus [rɛspublʲika bʲɛlaˈrusʲ], deutsch Republik Belarus)

    https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weißrussland

     

  148. @ThreeCranes
    @PaceLaw


    "The last U.S. census slave schedules were enumerated by County in 1860 and included 393,975 named persons holding 3,950,546 unnamed slaves, or an average of about ten slaves per holder. The actual number of slaveholders may be slightly lower because some large holders held slaves in more than one County and they would have been counted as a separate slaveholder in each County. Excluding slaves, the 1860 U.S. population was 27,167,529, with about 1 in 70 being a slaveholder. It is estimated by this transcriber that in 1860, slaveholders of 200 or more slaves, while constituting less than 1 % of the total number of U.S. slaveholders, or 1 out of 7,000 free persons, held 20-30% of the total number of slaves in the U.S."
     
    from the MSGen Web Project.

    That's right, you're eyes aren't deceiving you. Only 1 out of 70 citizens of the USA in 1860 owned slaves. And as many whites immigrated to the USA since 1860 as lived here then. That means, that if each group bred true (slave owners and non-slave owners--not plausible, I know, but a necessary assumption to grasp the essential point) then only one out of 140 Americans are descended from slaveowners--and some of those slave owners were black!. So, fewer than 1 out of 140 American whites are descended from former slave owners.

    And we whites are expected to pay reparations? For what? For the simple coincidence of having lived in the USA at the same time as African blacks? There's no more cogent causal connection than that; that's the best they've got. You're white, your ancestors lived in America, now hand over the dough.

    That's extortion. Or highway robbery. Either way, crimes. And inasmuch as criminal behavior is common among blacks, Ibram X. Kendi is simply behaving true to Form. And this greed for an easy, fast buck is precisely why blacks accrue so little wealth.

    Replies: @anon, @Elli, @John Milton’s Ghost

    Your main point is valid. Most scholars assume however that you can safely multiply the number of owners by four or five, since the numbers reflect individual owners—that is, the ones who held the title to the slave property—rather than the families as a whole who were effectively slaveholders. Even doing that means that only 1/4 of all white southerners owned slaves in 1860, and white southerners were outnumbered by northerners over 3 to 1.

    Hence the need to create vague language that emphasizes some bond of whiteness that benefits every white over every black, as well as expanding beyond slavery to create a concept of racism so wide ranging that touching someone’s hair is akin to whipping them on the block.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    I'd given your comment some thought and my objection to it is that the question is not who may have benefited from slavery but who owned them. Surely, we cannot hold the children of male slaveowners responsible for what their father's did. And on the other hand, the children of slaves were probably not very productive yet were provided for.

    Overall, blacks in America have thrived. Don't let them fool you. From 4 million in 1860 they are 42 million today. Whites numbered 27 million in 1860 number only 200 (roughly) million today--and this includes the addition of tens of millions of immigrants. So, blacks have not been genocided or starved or any other of the horrors Critical Race Theory lays upon European whites' doorstep. They have outbred whites handily.

    Replies: @Travis

  149. @Yancey Ward
    And when reparations don't fix the inequality, what will Kendi write then? Of course, that it wasn't enough.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @bomag, @usNthem, @SMK, @AceDeuce, @SMK

    This grifting colored boy BS artist and his ilk need to be treated like the carnies/crooked timeshare salesmen that they are. In the middle of their pathetic lying spiel, a loud FK YOU! should be shouted, followed by a “GTFO with your BS fairy tales”. If they get chesty and want to act bad, neutralize the threat “by any means necessary”.

    Jumped up primitive morons like these are going to need drastic measures to get them to get in line–and that will be partial and temporary, thereby unsatisfactory.

  150. I wonder if WFH won’t be a negative for negroes. In an office or other group work settings help is readily available and there is a tendency to ‘cover’ for workers who can’t do the job. Managers can ‘play favorites’ or use other criterion besides performance or output to evaluate workers. This might be difficult to do with remote work. This would not favor the negro and claiming discrimination would be difficult to do when performance or output is being measured by objective standards as measured by computer terminal output where management would not necessarily even know the race of the person at the terminal.

  151. CCZ says:

    But you must believe him; he nailed it; he is racially prescient: “Patriotism as racism is king.”

    Just go to Newark and see the patriotism-racism connection, there it is for all to see!! “Kendi” sees all, knows all, and reveals all!!

    Vandals Damage Newly Installed George Floyd Statue in Newark
    June 24, 2021

    Police say graffiti, blackface and a large sticker indicating ‘white supremacy jargon’ was found this morning on the newly installed George Floyd statute on the steps of City Hall.

    Officials said the vandal’s literature was that of “Patriot front.us.”

    The face of the statue was painted black, and in white paint on the torso of the statue were the words: “LIFE…LIBERTY VICTORY PATRIOTFRONT.US.”

    The Newark Police Division immediately began an investigation, which remains ongoing, and the City’s Public Works Department responded to remove the paint.

  152. @John Derbyshire
    @Reg Cæsar

    Whoa there, Bubba: https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2016-01-01.html#06

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    It’s painful to see one of one’s heroes so wrong on something. They have the right to name their country in their language. We reserve the right to name their country in our language.

    If Czechia is so euphonious, why don’t they use it themselves? They have three excellent names in English already– Moravia, Bohemia, and Silesia.

    And why is CZ pronounced “ch”, and CH not?

  153. @RichardTaylor
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Charles Murray genuinely appears dumbfounded that these problems are coming to a head in the public square, when he apparently wasn’t paying attention when Sam Francis, Joseph Sobran, Jared Taylor, even Pat Buchanan were sounding the alarm regarding these problems a couple of decades ago
     
    Thanks for mentioning Sobran and Sam Francis.

    Charles Murray gives a bit more mathematical understanding of racial differences on IQ and such, but nothing more. As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with Blacks knew all this 400 years ago.

    If "really nice" MidWesterners hadn't rejected the lived experience of White Southerners, they would have been wise generations ago. Or they could have talked to South Africans. It doesn't strike me as "nice" to throw other Whites under the bus and proceed as if Murray and company are moral creatures but all the other Whites were "racists" and should be discarded.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Reg Cæsar

    Charles Murray gives a bit more mathematical understanding of racial differences on IQ and such, but nothing more. As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with Blacks knew all this 400 years ago.

    If “really nice” MidWesterners hadn’t rejected the lived experience of White Southerners, they would have been wise generations ago.

    Not “all this”. 400 years ago people back then underestimated the moral, intellectual and social abilities of black people.

    The main “race problem” in the US currently, call it P1, is not that blacks have lower avg IQ and (prob) higher avg impulsivity etc and the downstream behavioral differences. The _problem_ is that Kendi and the CRTers blame those differences on whites and racism and the downstream policy and social implications of THAT.

    It is only a secondary and comparatively minor problem (call it P2) that our population overall is less intelligent and more violent than it otherwise would be. Dumb and/or violent blacks are not inherently any more of a problem than dumb and/or violent whites and dumb and/or violent asians.

    As the image you (?) used in your review of Murray’s book shows there are about equal numbers of 80 IQ whites than 80 IQ blacks in the US. It’s not great but we, society, can deal with it.

    If P1 didn’t exist then P2 would be the main problem, but it’s been something the US and the world had come to grips with. Blacks are and can be happy and productive members of American society as so many of them are, but they’ll just be underrepresented in right tail professions and positions and over-represented in left tail ones (as they already are) and they’ll be overrepresented in jail ( as they already are).

    The realization is that there’s nothing wrong or racist about that and that it’s ok and expected and we should get back to focusing on going to Mars, eating (possibly plant based) burgers with our friends and watching TV.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @vhrm


    Dumb and/or violent blacks are not inherently any more of a problem than dumb and/or violent whites and dumb and/or violent asians.
     
    This touches on an issue within HBD (as it seems to be currently held) that I think gets things wrong.

    An area full of lower IQ Whites, say around 85 (average Black IQ is I believe), would have some problems. Yet, I don't think it would resemble a similar Black area. Look at Black areas all over the country. Now consider a poor White area in some rural area. They aren't the same.

    We can even compare it to other (mainly) non-White areas. I believe Panama, Kuwait, Libya, India and the Philippines hover around an average IQ of 85. Not great places, but compare them to Uganda or Nigeria. And look at them over the last few centuries for a full picture.

    One factor I'm noticing among Whites is an enhanced ability to combine forming effective social units with enough individual creativity to move things forward. Compare that to pretty much all of Asia for the last couple thousand years (despite higher IQs and better impulse control).

    Replies: @vhrm

  154. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @ThreeCranes

    Your main point is valid. Most scholars assume however that you can safely multiply the number of owners by four or five, since the numbers reflect individual owners—that is, the ones who held the title to the slave property—rather than the families as a whole who were effectively slaveholders. Even doing that means that only 1/4 of all white southerners owned slaves in 1860, and white southerners were outnumbered by northerners over 3 to 1.

    Hence the need to create vague language that emphasizes some bond of whiteness that benefits every white over every black, as well as expanding beyond slavery to create a concept of racism so wide ranging that touching someone’s hair is akin to whipping them on the block.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    I’d given your comment some thought and my objection to it is that the question is not who may have benefited from slavery but who owned them. Surely, we cannot hold the children of male slaveowners responsible for what their father’s did. And on the other hand, the children of slaves were probably not very productive yet were provided for.

    Overall, blacks in America have thrived. Don’t let them fool you. From 4 million in 1860 they are 42 million today. Whites numbered 27 million in 1860 number only 200 (roughly) million today–and this includes the addition of tens of millions of immigrants. So, blacks have not been genocided or starved or any other of the horrors Critical Race Theory lays upon European whites’ doorstep. They have outbred whites handily.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Travis
    @ThreeCranes

    excellent point.
    The Black population has doubled over the past 50 years, from 23 million to 44 million today while the White Population has barely grown, and would have shrunk without immigration.

    One reason is that it takes two whites to produce a White Child, but just one Black parent to create a Black child. Over the past decade White Females have had 21 million babies, and 1 million of them are Black. While Black women have had 6 million babies and all 6 million are Black, even when the father is white a Black female will have a Black child.

  155. @vhrm
    @RichardTaylor


    Charles Murray gives a bit more mathematical understanding of racial differences on IQ and such, but nothing more. As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with Blacks knew all this 400 years ago.

    If “really nice” MidWesterners hadn’t rejected the lived experience of White Southerners, they would have been wise generations ago.
     
    Not "all this". 400 years ago people back then underestimated the moral, intellectual and social abilities of black people.

    The main "race problem" in the US currently, call it P1, is not that blacks have lower avg IQ and (prob) higher avg impulsivity etc and the downstream behavioral differences. The _problem_ is that Kendi and the CRTers blame those differences on whites and racism and the downstream policy and social implications of THAT.

    It is only a secondary and comparatively minor problem (call it P2) that our population overall is less intelligent and more violent than it otherwise would be. Dumb and/or violent blacks are not inherently any more of a problem than dumb and/or violent whites and dumb and/or violent asians.

    As the image you (?) used in your review of Murray's book shows there are about equal numbers of 80 IQ whites than 80 IQ blacks in the US. It's not great but we, society, can deal with it.
    https://www.amren.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/BellCurve-600x338.jpg

    If P1 didn't exist then P2 would be the main problem, but it's been something the US and the world had come to grips with. Blacks are and can be happy and productive members of American society as so many of them are, but they'll just be underrepresented in right tail professions and positions and over-represented in left tail ones (as they already are) and they'll be overrepresented in jail ( as they already are).

    The realization is that there's nothing wrong or racist about that and that it's ok and expected and we should get back to focusing on going to Mars, eating (possibly plant based) burgers with our friends and watching TV.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    Dumb and/or violent blacks are not inherently any more of a problem than dumb and/or violent whites and dumb and/or violent asians.

    This touches on an issue within HBD (as it seems to be currently held) that I think gets things wrong.

    An area full of lower IQ Whites, say around 85 (average Black IQ is I believe), would have some problems. Yet, I don’t think it would resemble a similar Black area. Look at Black areas all over the country. Now consider a poor White area in some rural area. They aren’t the same.

    We can even compare it to other (mainly) non-White areas. I believe Panama, Kuwait, Libya, India and the Philippines hover around an average IQ of 85. Not great places, but compare them to Uganda or Nigeria. And look at them over the last few centuries for a full picture.

    One factor I’m noticing among Whites is an enhanced ability to combine forming effective social units with enough individual creativity to move things forward. Compare that to pretty much all of Asia for the last couple thousand years (despite higher IQs and better impulse control).

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @RichardTaylor

    I think many HBDers would agree with much of what you said. For one thing IQ and impulse control vary somewhat independently and there are other traits that vary as well.

    But more importantly i'm talking about the US as it currently stands. Black people in the US are integrated into the society to a large degree. Even the most segregated black neighborhoods benefit from the overall social structure of the US, the technology, the banking system, the education system, the criminal justice system, the economy etc just like people of every other race.

    It doesn't matter, for this argument i mean, that Uganda couldn't create Walmart or Boeing (neither of which i couldn't create or maintain either). Just like you and me, most any black person can get some sort of job in a company created by someone else in an economic and legal system created by someone else and then use our earnings from working that job (whatever they may be) to enjoy the fruits of modern society.

    As to the future developments of society, that's, as i understand it, driven by a miniscule percentage of the people. The vast majority of current Americans of all races are contributing nothing to that except in the most roundabout ways, e.g. as consumers.

  156. @nokangaroos
    @MEH 0910

    That´s the point methinks ...

    putting it into stark alternative is a way of intimidating goodWhites into saying
    "Of course it cannot be that blacks are lazy, stupid, violent and yucky"
    (wisely swallowing the "not only")

    ... then responding
    "Then by your own admission you are racist and must pay".

    The more over the top they get, the sooner people get fed up
    (Hope springs eternal :P ).

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Kendi is over the top, that’s right. But he is over the top in The Atlantic Magazine.

    – Maybe I could free myself off getting too negative here by reformulating the above sentence this way: Kendi is a star-writer now in what has once been “The Atlantic Magazine”.

  157. @Česko
    @Reg Cæsar

    The hill you chose to die on says a lot about you. Since you're so good with words, I suggest you come up with your own designations of horrible country names, such as Russia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Albania, Georgia, Armenia, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Australia, Bolivia etc. Good thing Germany isn't called Germania anymore.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I suggest you come up with your own designations of horrible country names…

    I prefer beautiful, evocative names, such as these:

    The name of our currency, and that of many other countries’, came from a village in Karlovy Vary, 501 years ago. We thank you for that gift!

    Welcome to Jáchymov: the Czech town that invented the dollar

    Jáchymov: the Birthplace of the Dollar

    Predecessor of US dollar minted 500 years ago in Jáchymov

    Royal Mint Jáchymov Museum

  158. @RichardTaylor
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Charles Murray genuinely appears dumbfounded that these problems are coming to a head in the public square, when he apparently wasn’t paying attention when Sam Francis, Joseph Sobran, Jared Taylor, even Pat Buchanan were sounding the alarm regarding these problems a couple of decades ago
     
    Thanks for mentioning Sobran and Sam Francis.

    Charles Murray gives a bit more mathematical understanding of racial differences on IQ and such, but nothing more. As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with Blacks knew all this 400 years ago.

    If "really nice" MidWesterners hadn't rejected the lived experience of White Southerners, they would have been wise generations ago. Or they could have talked to South Africans. It doesn't strike me as "nice" to throw other Whites under the bus and proceed as if Murray and company are moral creatures but all the other Whites were "racists" and should be discarded.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Reg Cæsar

    As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with [b]lacks knew all this 400 years ago.

    So why were they invited here? What good have they ever done us?

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Ever since the government started forcing integration, Blacks have kept you in good running shape. The need for White Flight keeps you on your toes.

    https://mediacloud.theweek.co.uk/image/private/s--TVVVS5Xx--/f_auto,[email protected]/v1604750583/theweek/2017/09/little_rock.jpg

  159. @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    Belarus was mostly referred to as Byelorussia before it got its present name. Its international car registration code - BY - seems to reflect that (all the letters on car registration plates of European countries have to use either Roman letters or - in the case of the Cyrillic or Greek alphabet - those letters of the alphabet that resemble Roman ones).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Belarus was mostly referred to as Byelorussia before it got its present name.

    All of her neighbors use a literal translation of “White Russia” into the vernacular. We should, too.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus#/languages

    Weißrussland, amtliche Kurzform Belarus [ˈbeːlaˌʁʊs]/[ˈbɛlaˌʁʊs] (weißrussisch/russisch Беларусь bzw. traditionell russisch Белоруссия Belorussija; amtliche Vollform: Рэспубліка Беларусь (weißrussisch) bzw. Республика Беларусь (russisch), deutsche Transkription Respublika Belarus [rɛspublʲika bʲɛlaˈrusʲ], deutsch Republik Belarus)

    https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weißrussland

  160. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    As I keep saying, anybody who had experience with [b]lacks knew all this 400 years ago.
     
    So why were they invited here? What good have they ever done us?

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    Ever since the government started forcing integration, Blacks have kept you in good running shape. The need for White Flight keeps you on your toes.

  161. @Old Prude
    @Bill P

    The past isn't just another country, its another planet. Pioneer women may have popped out six to ten children, but five would be dead within a year. That is if pioneer woman didn't die during child birth. Our area in southern Maine features old family and community cemeteries every half mile or so, most dating back to the late 1700s. The number of young women and infants in those cemeteries is remarkable. There is one fellow buried with his four wives: Three of them young, and one able to make it to old-age.

    The young men who are buried all died in the Civil War. Its always melancholy to see the grave stones of the ones who died in the first days, and the ones who died in the very last days.

    On the current planet the only young people in cemeteries are suicides and drunk drivers.

    Replies: @Ed, @S. Anonyia

    I believe as recently as the early 20th century, 1 out of 5 American children had at least one deceased parent.

  162. @Elli
    @ThreeCranes

    I think Kendi's idea is that in the long run whites have benefited, blacks have suffered from slavery and the racist aftermath. It isn't to do with individual guilt or innocence. It's as if one child were favored, the other abused and disinherited through the father's wickedness, and generations later, the descendants of the disinherited still suffer.

    My great great great grandfather owned 20 slaves. His grandson my great grandfather was born dirt poor, had a fourth grade education. With hard work and intelligence, he became a man of property. He hated black people, though he didn't persecute them, just steered clear.

    Black Southerners didn't really have his chance to work their way up for three more generations, say 1970. Since then our elite have destroyed the blue collar job and promoted sexual license which destroys the family.

    You can't accumulate family wealth without family stability.

    You can't live one life and gain the benefits of another.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    Blacks were polygamous in Africa. Because that is outlawed here, their innate tendency towards family structure has decayed into a free for all. It just doesn’t work well in a society in which the best way to accrue wealth is through generations of steadfast monogamy.

  163. @NOTA
    @Achilleus

    Reality is usually messier than good rhetoric.

    Some black/white differences are genetic in origin, some are cultural, some are based on their situation. For example, the high rate of illegitimacy among blacks is clearly cultural and may largely be a knock-on effect of how early welfare programs were designed. The geographical distribution of blacks is largely driven by slavery and later oppressive laws sending a large
    diaspora of Southern blacks up to Northern cities. The higher rate of high blood pressure and heart disease among blacks is probably genetic in origin (though aggravated by cultural stuff like a Southern diet).

    To understand the world, you have to care more about being right in each specific case than you do about soaring rhetoric. I haven't read Kendi's books, but my impression of him is that he cares a lot about soaring rhetoric. I have read a bunch of Murray's books, and he clearly cares about understanding the world.

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Art Deco

    The geographical distribution of blacks is largely driven by slavery and later oppressive laws sending a large diaspora of Southern blacks up to Northern cities.

    Disagree. Net migration northward was minimal for 50 years after the Civil War. As late as 1910, 93% of the blacks in the US lived in former slave states That changed consequent to a cotton crop failure in 1915 which triggered pioneering migration and then chain migration. The net migration did dissipate coincident with the improvement in the social status of blacks. Recall, though that regional wage differentials dropped dramatically between 1930 and 1980 and recall that non-material quality of life in northern black neighborhoods declined severely between 1945 and 1980.

  164. I think Kendi makes a couple purely fallacious statements in the above. The lower vaccination rate among POC could have other causes rather than the either/or argument he makes. Such as, they could have decided for themselves it was riskier than the virus, and are ‘hesitant’. The other is on what he perceives as rejection. People are not experts because they write books to expound on their own theories, and even get hired to keep doing so. His position on race is conjecture, based on his own opinions, and those who are like minded. He sees the world and all in it through a narrow lens, and then declares what he sees to be the only valid experience, thus his own ‘expertise’; appreciated only by those who hold the same narrow views.
    Kendi does not posit internally logical theories of how the world works made up of different races. Until he is able and willing to do so, he creates more heat than light.

  165. @anon215
    I don't care if Kendi is right or wrong. All I need to know is that the things he would have us do to advance his agenda would be bad for us, and that's all the justification we should need to oppose him and all others like him.

    Replies: @aj54

    I think the fitness of his arguments should absolutely matter. I believe there has been insufficient pushback against some of the crackpot ideas some Blacks embrace that make them feel superior to other races. The 1619 Project is a good example. It states that it is an imaginary, not a fact based, exercise in reframing history. Why it would be included in curricula is a sign of a real problem. It is imperative that we find some coherent arguments to counterpoint every time they present their opinion as fact.

    • Agree: photondancer
  166. SMK says: • Website
    @Yancey Ward
    And when reparations don't fix the inequality, what will Kendi write then? Of course, that it wasn't enough.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @bomag, @usNthem, @SMK, @AceDeuce, @SMK

    In all of their appearances (debates, interviews, speeches, discussions), has even one person asked the likes of Kendi or Dyson or T. Coates or the Rev. Al an obvious question: If all the maladies and problems of blacks in the US are explained, or dramatically exacerbated, by “systemic racism” and “white supremacy, how do you explain the lives of blacks in Haiti and the countries of sub-Saharan Africa?

    Haiti, for example, has been ruled by blacks and blacks alone for well over 200-years since the revolt and mass-murder of whites in 1804. How is life in Haiti, the most hellish, primitive, benighted, and impoverished nation in the Western Hemisphere, explained by”systemic racism” and “white supremacy”? Are the ghosts of the French they slaughtered -not only the men who enslved them but also women, many who were pregnatn, children, infants- to blame for the hell that is Haiti over 200-years after their “liberation” rather than their low-average intelligence, and other intrinsic characteristics, which largely explain why all black-ruled nations and black-majority cities in the US and elsewhere are hell-holes with vastly disproportionate rates of violence, criminality, poverty, illegitimacy, etc., in relation to “Asians” and Europeans?

  167. @ThreeCranes
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    I'd given your comment some thought and my objection to it is that the question is not who may have benefited from slavery but who owned them. Surely, we cannot hold the children of male slaveowners responsible for what their father's did. And on the other hand, the children of slaves were probably not very productive yet were provided for.

    Overall, blacks in America have thrived. Don't let them fool you. From 4 million in 1860 they are 42 million today. Whites numbered 27 million in 1860 number only 200 (roughly) million today--and this includes the addition of tens of millions of immigrants. So, blacks have not been genocided or starved or any other of the horrors Critical Race Theory lays upon European whites' doorstep. They have outbred whites handily.

    Replies: @Travis

    excellent point.
    The Black population has doubled over the past 50 years, from 23 million to 44 million today while the White Population has barely grown, and would have shrunk without immigration.

    One reason is that it takes two whites to produce a White Child, but just one Black parent to create a Black child. Over the past decade White Females have had 21 million babies, and 1 million of them are Black. While Black women have had 6 million babies and all 6 million are Black, even when the father is white a Black female will have a Black child.

  168. @Old Prude
    @Bill P

    The past isn't just another country, its another planet. Pioneer women may have popped out six to ten children, but five would be dead within a year. That is if pioneer woman didn't die during child birth. Our area in southern Maine features old family and community cemeteries every half mile or so, most dating back to the late 1700s. The number of young women and infants in those cemeteries is remarkable. There is one fellow buried with his four wives: Three of them young, and one able to make it to old-age.

    The young men who are buried all died in the Civil War. Its always melancholy to see the grave stones of the ones who died in the first days, and the ones who died in the very last days.

    On the current planet the only young people in cemeteries are suicides and drunk drivers.

    Replies: @Ed, @S. Anonyia

    It’s true that infant mortality was quite high, but I think the danger of death during childbirth was exaggerated. Having researched my family tree, I can only find one woman within the past 6 generations who died of complications related to childbirth. Similarly, one man who died in a war (the Civil War, of disease as a POW, not battle).

    But what does stand out is that people dying in their 40s, 50s, and 60s was basically the norm. Middle-aged was “old” then. That could be specific to my area; maybe the humid climate, (probably) contaminated water, and diseases took their toll relatively early.

    Another weird thing about the past is that out of 6-10 children you’d often find only 1-3 got married and had their own children. Lots of people ended up as lifelong bachelors or spinsters if they didn’t die in childhood. Or perhaps they became caretakers for other family members.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @S. Anonyia

    Your observations jibe with mine. I haven't done any family research but I have noticed that in older fiction people are described as old or elderly when they're only in their 50s or 60s. People in their 40s are considered past it. Youth, as Scarlett O'Hara mournfully reflects, is concentrated into a few action packed years.

    Even today many people never meet someone they want to settle down with. In the past, with much less communication and travel, if you didn't like the local pickings you were stuck. There seems also to have been a bit of a convention, in larger families, for one daughter to be the designated nurse to ailing parents. I'd be interested to read some proper research on how widespread this was. Was it only certain areas, classes, ethnic backgrounds etc.

  169. @Toteswoke
    @Dieter Kief

    What?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Thanks for asking, Toteswoke.

    – what’s up is – role-prose – I’m switching heads here. First I’m inside my own, then I’m inside Kendi’s head.

    Old technique in essay-writing not least – to change perspectives. Kendi is the hip guy now and hip beats – differentiated argumentation any time these days – because differentiation (something Steve Sailer just excels in) is so old-fashioned like – scribbling on paper and some such.
    The Kendi-part with me being in Kendi’s head starts thus from trendy Dr. Kendi-brother on.

    The self-deprecating part is from a real (ironic & nice) autobiographical poem by a real American poet, Ron Padgett – who did work with Jim Jarmusch on his movie about – a poet, Paterson – who works as a laconic bus driver.

  170. @RichardTaylor
    @vhrm


    Dumb and/or violent blacks are not inherently any more of a problem than dumb and/or violent whites and dumb and/or violent asians.
     
    This touches on an issue within HBD (as it seems to be currently held) that I think gets things wrong.

    An area full of lower IQ Whites, say around 85 (average Black IQ is I believe), would have some problems. Yet, I don't think it would resemble a similar Black area. Look at Black areas all over the country. Now consider a poor White area in some rural area. They aren't the same.

    We can even compare it to other (mainly) non-White areas. I believe Panama, Kuwait, Libya, India and the Philippines hover around an average IQ of 85. Not great places, but compare them to Uganda or Nigeria. And look at them over the last few centuries for a full picture.

    One factor I'm noticing among Whites is an enhanced ability to combine forming effective social units with enough individual creativity to move things forward. Compare that to pretty much all of Asia for the last couple thousand years (despite higher IQs and better impulse control).

    Replies: @vhrm

    I think many HBDers would agree with much of what you said. For one thing IQ and impulse control vary somewhat independently and there are other traits that vary as well.

    But more importantly i’m talking about the US as it currently stands. Black people in the US are integrated into the society to a large degree. Even the most segregated black neighborhoods benefit from the overall social structure of the US, the technology, the banking system, the education system, the criminal justice system, the economy etc just like people of every other race.

    It doesn’t matter, for this argument i mean, that Uganda couldn’t create Walmart or Boeing (neither of which i couldn’t create or maintain either). Just like you and me, most any black person can get some sort of job in a company created by someone else in an economic and legal system created by someone else and then use our earnings from working that job (whatever they may be) to enjoy the fruits of modern society.

    As to the future developments of society, that’s, as i understand it, driven by a miniscule percentage of the people. The vast majority of current Americans of all races are contributing nothing to that except in the most roundabout ways, e.g. as consumers.

    • Thanks: RichardTaylor
  171. @CCZ
    @Reg Cæsar

    Arrests are racist:

    "Protesters Gather Outside Rock Hill Police Department After Video Surfaces Showing Arrest Of 2 Black Men"

    https://www.wccbcharlotte.com/2021/06/23/protesters-gather-outside-rock-hill-police-department-after-video-surfaces-showing-arrest-of-2-black-men/

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1407930241583136772

    Replies: @Anon

    Stopped in Charlotte and bypassed Rock Hill and never was a minute late:

  172. @S. Anonyia
    @Old Prude

    It's true that infant mortality was quite high, but I think the danger of death during childbirth was exaggerated. Having researched my family tree, I can only find one woman within the past 6 generations who died of complications related to childbirth. Similarly, one man who died in a war (the Civil War, of disease as a POW, not battle).

    But what does stand out is that people dying in their 40s, 50s, and 60s was basically the norm. Middle-aged was "old" then. That could be specific to my area; maybe the humid climate, (probably) contaminated water, and diseases took their toll relatively early.

    Another weird thing about the past is that out of 6-10 children you'd often find only 1-3 got married and had their own children. Lots of people ended up as lifelong bachelors or spinsters if they didn't die in childhood. Or perhaps they became caretakers for other family members.

    Replies: @photondancer

    Your observations jibe with mine. I haven’t done any family research but I have noticed that in older fiction people are described as old or elderly when they’re only in their 50s or 60s. People in their 40s are considered past it. Youth, as Scarlett O’Hara mournfully reflects, is concentrated into a few action packed years.

    Even today many people never meet someone they want to settle down with. In the past, with much less communication and travel, if you didn’t like the local pickings you were stuck. There seems also to have been a bit of a convention, in larger families, for one daughter to be the designated nurse to ailing parents. I’d be interested to read some proper research on how widespread this was. Was it only certain areas, classes, ethnic backgrounds etc.

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