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American football is an exciting spectator sport, except for the punter who comes on when his team gives up trying to score. He stands there, drops the ball, and boots it with the top of his foot to the other team. It’s a dull part of the game, and American punters bring no flair to their moments in the spotlight.

Back in 2014, I went to the UCLA vs. Utah football game at the Rose Bowl. Utah won in large part due, to my astonishment, to Utah’s punter Tom Hackett, an Australian. He used his Australian Rules football punting wiles to befuddle the Bruins with his artful punts (a phrase that seldom had come to my mind before). I came home and raved for 1,400 words on how much better Australian punters are than American punters.

Nine years later, the Australian tidal wave has turned out largely as I guessed it would (which is usually not the case), but quite possibly more so. From the New York Times sports section:

Australian Punters Are Putting a New Spin on Football

The tricky curves and crafty bounces of their kicks, honed by Australian football and rugby, have changed the way punt returners are coached.

By Jeré Longman
Reporting from Monbulk, Australia

Sept. 7, 2023

… This season, 61 of the 133 teams in the Football Bowl Subdivision, the top tier of N.C.A.A. football, have Aussie punters on their rosters, according to Prokick Australia, a Melbourne-based academy that converts Australian rules football players and some rugby players into punters (and a smaller number of kickers) for the American game.

… Australians have made a pronounced impact with the distance and placement of their punts, which can produce tricky curves and crafty bounces and rolls. Seven times in the past 10 seasons, Australians have won the Ray Guy Award, given to the nation’s most outstanding collegiate punter.

Both punters in last season’s national championship game between the University of Georgia and Texas Christian University were Aussies. This season, 12 of the 14 teams in the Southeastern Conference, the most formidable college football league, carry Australian punters, according to the league office. Of the 14 teams in the Big Ten Conference, eight list Australian punters on their rosters, and a ninth lists a punter from New Zealand.

… Most Aussie punters began by playing Australian rules football, the fast, brawny sport where kicking is a primary method of advancing the ball. Players learn from a young age to boot the ball accurately to teammates while on the run and under pressure that can come from any direction.

While Americans tend to grow up throwing footballs and baseballs, many Australians grow up “kicking an oval-shaped ball back and forth hundreds of times a day,” said Michael Dickson, the Sydney-born punter for the Seattle Seahawks.

The training system at Prokick Australia has become so dependable that N.C.A.A. coaches regularly offer scholarships to punters they have seen only on video and who have yet to play a single down of American football. The academy’s founder and director says that it has sent more than 200 Aussie players to American colleges since 2009, and that roughly 95 percent have received their degrees.

… Typically, though, Australians are proficient at kicks that translate to punting in American football in terms of reliability, accuracy and elusiveness, which can leave opponents struggling to handle the ball or having to drive long distances to try to score points. …

The torpedo resembles a traditional spiral that can be used to rocket a punt from deep in a team’s own territory. The banana kick, in which the ball is angled across the foot, helicopters through the air and curves away from punt returners, making it difficult to field.

The drop punt, launched with the nose of the ball downward and kicked end over end, is a short, or “pooch,” punt. It is known for its precision, bite and backspin in placing the ball inside an opponent’s 10- or 5-yard line. A college team starting a drive inside its own 10 has a 3 percent chance of scoring a touchdown; that percentage more than triples if the drive begins at the 20.

Why are there a higher percentage of Aussie punters in college football than the NFL?

N.C.A.A. rules allow the entire punting team to charge downfield upon the snap of the ball, compared with just two players in the N.F.L. College punters from Australia often roll to one side or the other, slightly delaying their kicks and allowing coverage to extend like the tendrils of a spider web. And they are adept at kicking across their bodies, whipping the ball in a direction the returner may not be expecting or be able to reach easily. …

“I think the biggest thing is that playing Australian rules football, they learn to run and keep their eyes up and only look at the ball for a split second,” said Rutgers Coach Greg Schiano. “They’re able to look at the rush and understand whether the pressure is on them or not.” Traditional punters, he said, concentrate on the ball and “have no idea what the rush is doing.”

American punters are traditionally robotic, while Australian punters are unpredictable.

It took Americans about 15 or 20 years to reclaim placekicker jobs after soccer style kicking was introduced to American football around 1963. But by then a lot of American kids were playing soccer themselves. In contrast, as far as I know, nobody in the U.S. plays Aussie Rules football, so it could be a long time until Americans learn to punt as artfully as Australians.

 
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  1. We Australians have always laughed at your silly punters. Every second kid growing up can kick better than NFL punters, and many can make the ball talk. (Not sure how we’d go in the rest of the gridiron caper, tho.)

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Tony Tea

    Right. Most of the Australians now punting in the U.S. are guys who couldn't make it to the top in Australia. The top Aussie Rules players in Australia are Rob Gronkowski-style specimens.

    Replies: @Tony Tea, @njguy73

  2. Sounds kinda white-supremacist..

    • Replies: @bomag
    @International Jew

    I'm sure the DIE people have considered bringing their ball peen hammers to bear on this area.

    But they don't want people dwelling on the lopsided nature of other areas of the sport, so complaints are rather muted.

  3. I remember a guy who played as a hobby for an amateur team in Denmark once got a job as a kicker with Tampa Bay. Granted inbetween he got a role in the German league but still amazing.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/bucs-sign-danish-kicker-andersen-from-german-league-0ap3000001017319

    Thinking about it, the quality of play or competition wouldn’t matter for kickers, it’s just you and the goal. Seems like the NFL might be missing a lot of talent then in the many amateur American Football leagues around the world.

  4. There is one US raised Australian football star at the moment and learning kicking was a challenge.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/09/06/mason-cox-australian-rules-football/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon55uu

    I looked at Chris Sailer's website for his camps where he teaches placekicking, punting, and long snapping. The three roles go together in the NFL: the punter holds for the placekicker. (But maybe not so much in college where they have bigger squads.) He's an enterprising guy, so I imagined he'd hired an Australian Rules player to help coach the punters, but I didn't see much about punting, so maybe he's de-emphasizing that role due to the rise of the Australians.

  5. Whites, keep watching the negro football league.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Blondie Callahan 1970
    @Female in FL

    Never was a sports guy really. I was always into cars and going fast. Nothing against the sports ball , just wasn’t my cup of tea . Would watch a game occasionally or the Super Bowl .

    After the Kapernick all YT’s must go , fuck everyone one of them and the white beta males who watch rich black man spit on them , while their wives wear a jersey with some knee grows name on their back . Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense.

    And guys on the job site think I’m the weirdo because I have no clue who these fellas are talking about .

    “ Did you see the catch so and so made last night , it was incredible .” I hear that shit all the time . Great , football season is back …..

    Sorry but sports never impressed me . A 12 year old can play football . I can think of a lot more things that require talent and skill. That 12 year olds can’t do . Maybe those super talented football players should put their talents to better use . They could start with rebuilding everything the white man gave them and blacks destroyed in the process. Show us what you brutha’s gots, homies.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Anonymous

    , @Currahee
    @Female in FL

    Yes indeed. I no longer watch negros chase each other around a lawn.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Female in FL


    Whites, keep watching the negro football league.
     
    Agree. Absolutely embarrassing.

    Played plenty of touch when I was a kid and have enjoyed throwing the ball around my whole life.
    I watched a fair amount when I was a teenager. And watched a few games 10-15 back, when my son when he was interested (usually shooting pool).

    But the NFL signed on--firmly--to the minoritarian "racist flyover whitey is oppressing blacks!" lying.

    For giving a big FU to the bulk of their fanbase ... they took a very modest hit--I think it was 15% or so. And then they recovered. Imagine if their ratings had actually dropped 50%--the message to American business/TPTB? But the white fanboys just had to watch. And this wasn't your bank or your grocery store, but something completely, utterly unnecessary--that's in fact a huge time waster.

    White guys--all normies--just do something else:
    -- go play ball with your kids! or take 'em to the park
    -- go for a Sunday drive--or some other romantic interlude time--with the wife
    -- picnic/barbeque with some neighbor families
    -- go golfing or fishing with your buddies
    -- go for a family hike
    -- knock out stuff on your honey-do list
    -- read a book
    -- go to the gym
    -- start an HBD discussion group

    Think of all the less time-wasting stuff you could do.

    And think how good it would be for America if the NFL owners saw their ratings tumble 50%.

    Replies: @Female in FL

  6. Aussie Rules is truly a great game to watch once you grasp the scoring and catching rules, and the players are real all-round athletes.

    We were at Melbourne Airport and the Geelong Cats team, probably #1 team at the time, were in the departure line next door – they looked like Greek gods, tall and outstandingly fit without being muscle bound.

  7. @Anon55uu
    There is one US raised Australian football star at the moment and learning kicking was a challenge.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/09/06/mason-cox-australian-rules-football/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I looked at Chris Sailer’s website for his camps where he teaches placekicking, punting, and long snapping. The three roles go together in the NFL: the punter holds for the placekicker. (But maybe not so much in college where they have bigger squads.) He’s an enterprising guy, so I imagined he’d hired an Australian Rules player to help coach the punters, but I didn’t see much about punting, so maybe he’s de-emphasizing that role due to the rise of the Australians.

  8. @Tony Tea
    We Australians have always laughed at your silly punters. Every second kid growing up can kick better than NFL punters, and many can make the ball talk. (Not sure how we'd go in the rest of the gridiron caper, tho.)

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Right. Most of the Australians now punting in the U.S. are guys who couldn’t make it to the top in Australia. The top Aussie Rules players in Australia are Rob Gronkowski-style specimens.

    • Replies: @Tony Tea
    @Steve Sailer

    Size is definitely one aspect of where US football would have us covered. I reckon if you guys geared up for a serious tilt at Aussie Rules, you'd eventually go past us.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @sb

    , @njguy73
    @Steve Sailer

    When "Ted Lasso" wraps up, the next sports sitcom could be about an Aussie rules player who gets cut from his team and signs up to be a quarterback-kicker-punter in the NFL. Get some actor who's part Aboriginal. Just ticking that box alone should get a nine-episode commitment from Netflix.

  9. I read the headline, then as I realized it was NFL related I was expecting a somewhat snarky reminder that (IIRC) Mr. Sailer once predicted (forecast?) that Patrick Mahomes would inevitably revert to the mean.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Paul Rise

    I did?

    If I did, I was wrong. Mahomes is really good. I don't know much about 21st Century football, but I know that much.

    , @Blondie Callahan 1970
    @Paul Rise

    I live in Missouri . Mahomes is worshipped here . Now even more so as Missouri has started opening Whataburgers, Mahomes apparently has invested a lot of money into the franchise . Yea Mahomes!

    Replies: @Adolf Smith

  10. @Steve Sailer
    @Tony Tea

    Right. Most of the Australians now punting in the U.S. are guys who couldn't make it to the top in Australia. The top Aussie Rules players in Australia are Rob Gronkowski-style specimens.

    Replies: @Tony Tea, @njguy73

    Size is definitely one aspect of where US football would have us covered. I reckon if you guys geared up for a serious tilt at Aussie Rules, you’d eventually go past us.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Tony Tea

    Compare white NFL and Australian Rules players: Gronkowski, the Watts, the Bosas, Kelce, Cupp, etc. America has about 6 times as many white people as Australia, so, yeah, it has an advantage. But, still, the best Aussie Rules athletes are really good. Back in 2014, I recall looking up Australian punters in the NFL, and there were two of them, both around 6'5" and 250 pounds in their mid-30s. They'd aged out of all the leaping required in Australian football, but punting in the NFL was child's play for them even in their athletic dotage.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    , @sb
    @Tony Tea

    Australian football is an aerobically challenging game. American football is not.
    Different sports for different types of athletes in different sporting cultures.

  11. @Paul Rise
    I read the headline, then as I realized it was NFL related I was expecting a somewhat snarky reminder that (IIRC) Mr. Sailer once predicted (forecast?) that Patrick Mahomes would inevitably revert to the mean.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Blondie Callahan 1970

    I did?

    If I did, I was wrong. Mahomes is really good. I don’t know much about 21st Century football, but I know that much.

  12. @Tony Tea
    @Steve Sailer

    Size is definitely one aspect of where US football would have us covered. I reckon if you guys geared up for a serious tilt at Aussie Rules, you'd eventually go past us.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @sb

    Compare white NFL and Australian Rules players: Gronkowski, the Watts, the Bosas, Kelce, Cupp, etc. America has about 6 times as many white people as Australia, so, yeah, it has an advantage. But, still, the best Aussie Rules athletes are really good. Back in 2014, I recall looking up Australian punters in the NFL, and there were two of them, both around 6’5″ and 250 pounds in their mid-30s. They’d aged out of all the leaping required in Australian football, but punting in the NFL was child’s play for them even in their athletic dotage.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Steve Sailer

    A surprising number of times the kicker ends up the last man between the return player and the end zone. I can imagine special teams coaches liking the idea of a big athletic kicker.

    Jay Feely was only 70" and 200 but wasn't afraid to hit and got some pretty good tackles. Apparently Bill Parcells couldn't stand him because he was old-school from when placekickers were seen but not heard.

    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Steve Sailer


    Compare white NFL and Australian Rules players: Gronkowski, the Watts, the Bosas, Kelce, Cupp, etc. America has about 6 times as many white people as Australia, so, yeah, it has an advantage. But, still, the best Aussie Rules athletes are really good. Back in 2014, I recall looking up Australian punters in the NFL, and there were two of them, both around 6’5″ and 250 pounds in their mid-30s. They’d aged out of all the leaping required in Australian football, but punting in the NFL was child’s play for them even in their athletic dotage.
     
    Rugby is probably the larger grounds for American Football to source talent - there are skilled kicking positions (Fly Half, Fullback) which require both ball handling/running ability and kicking ability, and there are many more people who play Rugby worldwide (the Rugby World Cup starts today, BTW).

    I recall that NFL teams tried to recruit All Blacks Wing Jonah Lomu in the 1990s to play American Football - Lomu was 6'5" roughly 260 lbs and still a speedy and elusive runner.

    More recently, Philadelphia drafted and developed 6'8" 365 lb. Aussie of Samoan descent Jordan Mailata into a very good Left Tackle.

    Rugby Union is professional now and since the 1990s, but doesn't generate the salaries of European professional soccer of American Football, so it would not surprise if you see more exceptional naturally talented Rugby players "switching codes" all the way to American Football from Rugby Football.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  13. @Female in FL
    Whites, keep watching the negro football league.

    Replies: @Blondie Callahan 1970, @Currahee, @AnotherDad

    Never was a sports guy really. I was always into cars and going fast. Nothing against the sports ball , just wasn’t my cup of tea . Would watch a game occasionally or the Super Bowl .

    After the Kapernick all YT’s must go , fuck everyone one of them and the white beta males who watch rich black man spit on them , while their wives wear a jersey with some knee grows name on their back . Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense.

    And guys on the job site think I’m the weirdo because I have no clue who these fellas are talking about .

    “ Did you see the catch so and so made last night , it was incredible .” I hear that shit all the time . Great , football season is back …..

    Sorry but sports never impressed me . A 12 year old can play football . I can think of a lot more things that require talent and skill. That 12 year olds can’t do . Maybe those super talented football players should put their talents to better use . They could start with rebuilding everything the white man gave them and blacks destroyed in the process. Show us what you brutha’s gots, homies.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Blondie Callahan 1970

    "Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense."

    Well, if you include professional athletes in general, Wilt knew which side his bread was buttered. That's why he kept his mouth shut during the civil rights hoo-ha and settled for the moolah. I've heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I've never seen any confirmation of this.

    Replies: @Ye Sherman, @Reg Cæsar, @HammerJack

    , @Anonymous
    @Blondie Callahan 1970


    Job site
     
    Thanks, this gives me perspective on what has always seemed like a hysterical negative reaction whenever Steve talks about pro sports. If I had to work with blue-collar knuckleheads everyday who only cared about sports I'd probably come to resent them as well. Mike Tre's another blue-collar guy on this forum who also freaks out whenever Steve mentions sports.
  14. @International Jew
    Sounds kinda white-supremacist..

    Replies: @bomag

    I’m sure the DIE people have considered bringing their ball peen hammers to bear on this area.

    But they don’t want people dwelling on the lopsided nature of other areas of the sport, so complaints are rather muted.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  15. @Paul Rise
    I read the headline, then as I realized it was NFL related I was expecting a somewhat snarky reminder that (IIRC) Mr. Sailer once predicted (forecast?) that Patrick Mahomes would inevitably revert to the mean.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Blondie Callahan 1970

    I live in Missouri . Mahomes is worshipped here . Now even more so as Missouri has started opening Whataburgers, Mahomes apparently has invested a lot of money into the franchise . Yea Mahomes!

    • Replies: @Adolf Smith
    @Blondie Callahan 1970

    I'm praying he has a bad year,maybe even going full Theisman.( You never go full Theisman!)
    OK,just kidding,but I am a onetime fanatic who hates,hates,hates*sports!

    *Remember him?🤔

  16. A few of the punters in the past had fairly distinguished AFL careers and only went to the NFL when their time in the very aerobically challenging Australian game was finished. It was pension money.
    Now it has become a career option for players who are on the edge of making it in Australia whose greatest asset is their kicking. Most describe it as an adventure (they usually aren’t particularly academic, so I guess they fit in well with their American teammates)

    Aussie rules football is played in the US at a low level (look up USAFL) There is an international cup played every few years with about 20 competing national teams. USA aren’t that bad, but others are better (Note that it isn’t called a World Cup but rather an International Cup)

  17. Steve: “I saw the future and it came true.”

    Oops. For a moment there, I thought you had turned into Greta Thunberg.

    “As Stephen Sailer awoke one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a gigantic pest.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Steve: “I saw the future and it came true.”

    Oops. For a moment there, I thought you had turned into Greta Thunberg.

    “As Stephen Sailer awoke one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a gigantic pest.”
     
    And then he was eating a plate of pests… at gunpoint.

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/636/794/0f8.jpg
    , @I, Libertine
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I'm probably just missing something obvious ( I haven't had my coffee yet), but what does likening Steve Sailer to Gregor Samsa have to do with the ability to predict the future, or Australian Rules football?

  18. Distance, accuracy, and consistency take years of honing. Australian punters will never be thing in the NFL.

    Watch this Dude Perfect edition “Punters are People Too” with NFL punter Johnny Hekker (6’ 5”, 225lbs.) to appreciate the skill:

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Ray Guy was the GOAT

    Johnny Hekker might have been the greatest American punter since, I don't know, Ray
    Guy.

    Replies: @DCThrowback

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Ray Guy was the GOAT

    Looking at those banners, it occurs to me that not only have the Rams won the NFL championship 4 times, but each time they played their home games in a different stadium.

    ∙ 1945 Cleveland Stadium
    ∙ 1951 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum
    ∙ 1999 Trans World Dome
    ∙ 2021 SoFi Stadium

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  19. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Steve: "I saw the future and it came true."

    Oops. For a moment there, I thought you had turned into Greta Thunberg.

    "As Stephen Sailer awoke one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a gigantic pest."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @I, Libertine

    Steve: “I saw the future and it came true.”

    Oops. For a moment there, I thought you had turned into Greta Thunberg.

    “As Stephen Sailer awoke one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a gigantic pest.”

    And then he was eating a plate of pests… at gunpoint.

  20. Sav Rocca played for the Eagles and Redskins, well before your 2014 epiphany. Aussie rules was already starting to be an influence then. Not all NFL punters are as adept at rugby style kicks, but they are all aware of them and train them. Takes the real Aussies to do those “eluding the rush, run to the side and kick while running” plays after bad snaps.

    Some punters are even pretty decent at drop kicking. I remember the Skins kicker getting hurt and Tress Way (punter) hitting a chip shot place kick. The punter was the in game replacement for the place kicker. The coach asked him if he wanted to drop kick it and he said no way, so he hit the place kick goal. But mentioned that the opposing punter was very skilled at drop kicks and would have probably done so in the same situation.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Shale boi

    Doug Flutie, appropriately, scored the last dropkick point in NFL history in his last game.

    Replies: @res, @Rohirrimborn

    , @Tony Tea
    @Shale boi

    Colin Ridgeway was the first Australian punter on NFL books but I don't think he played. (He is more infamously known for being the victim of an unsolved murder in Texas.) Next punter I think was Darren Bennett. He played mostly for San Diego and made the pro bowl.

  21. Alluring title.

    Unfortunately, it’s about sports.

  22. @Shale boi
    Sav Rocca played for the Eagles and Redskins, well before your 2014 epiphany. Aussie rules was already starting to be an influence then. Not all NFL punters are as adept at rugby style kicks, but they are all aware of them and train them. Takes the real Aussies to do those "eluding the rush, run to the side and kick while running" plays after bad snaps.

    Some punters are even pretty decent at drop kicking. I remember the Skins kicker getting hurt and Tress Way (punter) hitting a chip shot place kick. The punter was the in game replacement for the place kicker. The coach asked him if he wanted to drop kick it and he said no way, so he hit the place kick goal. But mentioned that the opposing punter was very skilled at drop kicks and would have probably done so in the same situation.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Tony Tea

    Doug Flutie, appropriately, scored the last dropkick point in NFL history in his last game.

    • Replies: @res
    @Steve Sailer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMfaavF1R3E

    Actually got a smile out of Belichick. From the video comments.


    The first drop kick since 1941 AND Belichick caught on camera smiling? It's like someone taking a picture of a double rainbow and then realizing there was a unicorn chilling in the background.
     
    , @Rohirrimborn
    @Steve Sailer

    I'm a 1973 grad of Bronxville High School. There was a scion of the famous Brickley family who was doing drop kicks for BHS in the sixties.

  23. Hell, when I was in college back in the 70’s, there was a club rugby team that was quite popular and played teams from other schools – many from California. It’s never advanced beyond that in the states as far as I know, but it’s been around for quite some time. As for American football being an exciting spectator sport, especially these days, give me a break.

    • Replies: @Erronius
    @UsNthem

    When I went to UCSB in the mid-late 80s, the University held an annual Rugby competition for outside teams (there were many acres of grass fields at the time, and perhaps there still are).

    At night, the players would get drunk, come through Isla Vista (the small community of students living off-campus next-door to the University) and physically pick up parked cars, like pallbearers, and move them around.

    I was all for it! They were not destroying property, but I suppose they were causing consternation.

    There was enough grief that the University shut down that annual tournament.

  24. Didn’t the Audacious Epigone play Aussie rules football?

  25. @Ray Guy was the GOAT
    Distance, accuracy, and consistency take years of honing. Australian punters will never be thing in the NFL.

    Watch this Dude Perfect edition “Punters are People Too” with NFL punter Johnny Hekker (6’ 5”, 225lbs.) to appreciate the skill:

    https://youtu.be/WQ_tHqMVRzw?si=lIBZMgVuGe5J1OmT

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @ScarletNumber

    Johnny Hekker might have been the greatest American punter since, I don’t know, Ray
    Guy.

    • Replies: @DCThrowback
    @Steve Sailer

    Guy could throw too! He was awesome on fake punts for Fisher & McVay's Rams.

  26. @Blondie Callahan 1970
    @Female in FL

    Never was a sports guy really. I was always into cars and going fast. Nothing against the sports ball , just wasn’t my cup of tea . Would watch a game occasionally or the Super Bowl .

    After the Kapernick all YT’s must go , fuck everyone one of them and the white beta males who watch rich black man spit on them , while their wives wear a jersey with some knee grows name on their back . Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense.

    And guys on the job site think I’m the weirdo because I have no clue who these fellas are talking about .

    “ Did you see the catch so and so made last night , it was incredible .” I hear that shit all the time . Great , football season is back …..

    Sorry but sports never impressed me . A 12 year old can play football . I can think of a lot more things that require talent and skill. That 12 year olds can’t do . Maybe those super talented football players should put their talents to better use . They could start with rebuilding everything the white man gave them and blacks destroyed in the process. Show us what you brutha’s gots, homies.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Anonymous

    “Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense.”

    Well, if you include professional athletes in general, Wilt knew which side his bread was buttered. That’s why he kept his mouth shut during the civil rights hoo-ha and settled for the moolah. I’ve heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I’ve never seen any confirmation of this.

    • Replies: @Ye Sherman
    @Prester John


    Well, if you include professional athletes in general, Wilt knew which side his bread was buttered. That’s why he kept his mouth shut during the civil rights hoo-ha and settled for the moolah. I’ve heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I’ve never seen any confirmation of this.
     
    The chains are tighter these days. NBA star Kyrie Irving promotes— simply in one tweet— a movie produced by Blacks that Black Hebrew Israelites are the true descendants of the biblical Israelites and massa comes down with the whip post haste for this non-kosher tweet or a non-kosher Black film.

    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/vMmnZLzLnvYTjmhJWAGuYE-1200-80.jpg
    “Doesn’t Kyrie know we already bought and own the rights to being the biblical Israelites??”

    Kyrie heard the whip of his massa:

    Kyrie Irving, Brooklyn Nets to donate $500,000 each to Anti-Defamation League

    https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/nba-brooklyn-nets-face-calls-stronger-response-kyrie/story?id=92536945
     
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Prester John


    I’ve heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I’ve never seen any confirmation of this.
     
    It would fit his purported sex life.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @HammerJack
    @Prester John

    Also, I don't see what risk current-year football players take by punching down upon whitey any chance they get. Times have changed since Wilt's day.

  27. I don’t watch college or pro football (for the obvious reasons) so this is to me. But I got curious. I was thinking there must be video compilations of this dramatic, mind-boggling new technique in action. But I cannot find one. When I was a competitive breaststroker we were not allowed to bounce up and down in the water but someone (after my day) found a faster way. I was open-minded about the rules change and I will be open-minded now but I would like to please see this dramatic kicking improvement in action so I can then say OMG, or sub-OMG. I confesses that I am paranoid about exaggerations and hoaxes these days.

  28. Steve,

    I think it’s great that these Australian guys are finding their way to American football. There is one instance, however, where I sort of regret it.

    “He has trouble with the snap” has become a very memorable phrase here in Michigan. I still haven’t lived this down with my Spartan buddies.

  29. Native-born American whites pay the taxes that subsidize these teams and then we get shut out of one of the last positions that is dominated by whites.

    You know that native-born American white kid who grew up dreaming of football glory and saw punting as his one big chance? F**k him.

    Somebody told me once that “Aussies and Brits are our brothers, so it doesn’t really matter if they come over here and take jobs from Americans.” My response? “How would you react if your father cut you out of his will and left everything to your brother? Would you approve wholeheartedly?”

    The bottom line is that there is NO reason for any native-born American white guy to support any of the pro sports leagues.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
    @Stan Adams

    The fact that your comment is so spot on tells one everything they need to know about Steve and his fanboys.

    , @sb
    @Stan Adams

    Be careful what you wish for.
    Australian sport is full of foreigners including Americans.
    There is even an American playing AFL (Mason Cox for Collingwood)
    I think that there are more Americans in Australia than there are Australians in the US and a mutual ban on nationals taking locals jobs may end up hurting America more.

  30. And like all Bogans they’ll stay in America, marry a Yank and moan about everything.

  31. @Steve Sailer
    @Tony Tea

    Compare white NFL and Australian Rules players: Gronkowski, the Watts, the Bosas, Kelce, Cupp, etc. America has about 6 times as many white people as Australia, so, yeah, it has an advantage. But, still, the best Aussie Rules athletes are really good. Back in 2014, I recall looking up Australian punters in the NFL, and there were two of them, both around 6'5" and 250 pounds in their mid-30s. They'd aged out of all the leaping required in Australian football, but punting in the NFL was child's play for them even in their athletic dotage.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    A surprising number of times the kicker ends up the last man between the return player and the end zone. I can imagine special teams coaches liking the idea of a big athletic kicker.

    Jay Feely was only 70″ and 200 but wasn’t afraid to hit and got some pretty good tackles. Apparently Bill Parcells couldn’t stand him because he was old-school from when placekickers were seen but not heard.

  32. NFL has been dead to me since an ad “Football is [word that should never be mentioned about, by, or to a human being]” in 2021. But before that i remember noting only seeing one black punter in the pros: Reggie Roby of the Dolphins in the 80s.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @DenverGregg

    The other Black punter was Greg Coleman, who punted 12 seasons for Cleveland, Minnesota, and Washington. His cousin was base-stealing outfielder Vince Coleman.

  33. “It’s a dull part of the game, and American punters bring no flair to their moments in the spotlight.”

    Disagree. When its done correctly and with flair, US punting can be every bit as exciting as Aussie punting.

    A number of years ago, Steve, during, I believe, your review of Malcolm Gladwell’s Blink, you mentioned that oftentimes instead of in depth analysis, many times mainstream newspapers end up reading like press releases for the latest fad: talking points to promote whatever new is in the pipeline. Unfortunately, this article has that feel to it.

    “Traditional punters, he said, concentrate on the ball and “have no idea what the rush is doing.”

    Not so much as it was last decades. If anything, smarter punters know that if anyone from the rush breaks through, they’ll get an automatic penalty for roughing the punter, which can then lead to an automatic first down for their team (which usually means that their team keeps possession). Smarter punters learn to hesitate when punting, especially if there’s a few rushing him. Automatic penalty = keeping possession.

    “it could be a long time until Americans learn to punt as artfully as Australians.”

    It was done decades ago in the NFL, two words: RAY GUY. There’s a reason that the NCAA punting award is named after him. Regarding US punting, Ray did everything first: more distance, more bounces, accuracy, etc. Ray made punting exciting to watch.

    Granted, perhaps watching the 20th Century’s greatest punter had a lot to do with that. But facts are facts, and Ray Guy is one player who changed the way punting in the NFL was played.

    Traditionally, punting isn’t the main part of the NFL, perhaps it never will be. In Australian Rules Football, perhaps punting is more of a thing to watch because it makes a bigger contribution to the sport overall.

    But that’s a bit disrespectful to ignore Ray Guy’s contribution to NFL punting. He changed the position and brought it into the modern era singlehandedly. Ray wasn’t a bum or creampuff either.

    Should give the respect where it’s due.

    Not saying that NFL punting still doesn’t need some improvement, but it certainly has come a lot farther than what it was 50 yrs ago.

    Special teams players seldom will receive the spotlight anyway compared to starters.

    Now placekicking, I think the US will certainly stack up well vs Aussies. After all, there’s scoring on the line. Lets see Aussies kick a 65-70 yrd FG, as BAL K Justin Tucker.

    • Replies: @MGB
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    agree. it's not dull to see a beautifully placed punt pin back the offense in a critical spot of a game. and without punts, you don't get exciting punt returns. although i agree with many comments about the game as a cultural thing. if you look at it from that standpoint, professional and big college sports are a fucking degenerate affair. nothing worse undermined college as an academic pursuit than college sports, and sports betting and alcoholism that goes with it.

  34. In this age of trans surgical magic, why hasn’t any punter identified as Tom Dempsey in order to get a perfect sledgehammer-shaped kicking surface on their foot?

  35. @Stan Adams
    Native-born American whites pay the taxes that subsidize these teams and then we get shut out of one of the last positions that is dominated by whites.

    You know that native-born American white kid who grew up dreaming of football glory and saw punting as his one big chance? F**k him.

    Somebody told me once that "Aussies and Brits are our brothers, so it doesn't really matter if they come over here and take jobs from Americans." My response? "How would you react if your father cut you out of his will and left everything to your brother? Would you approve wholeheartedly?"

    The bottom line is that there is NO reason for any native-born American white guy to support any of the pro sports leagues.

    Replies: @Richard B, @sb

    The fact that your comment is so spot on tells one everything they need to know about Steve and his fanboys.

  36. @Steve Sailer
    @Shale boi

    Doug Flutie, appropriately, scored the last dropkick point in NFL history in his last game.

    Replies: @res, @Rohirrimborn

    Actually got a smile out of Belichick. From the video comments.

    The first drop kick since 1941 AND Belichick caught on camera smiling? It’s like someone taking a picture of a double rainbow and then realizing there was a unicorn chilling in the background.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
  37. @Prester John
    @Blondie Callahan 1970

    "Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense."

    Well, if you include professional athletes in general, Wilt knew which side his bread was buttered. That's why he kept his mouth shut during the civil rights hoo-ha and settled for the moolah. I've heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I've never seen any confirmation of this.

    Replies: @Ye Sherman, @Reg Cæsar, @HammerJack

    Well, if you include professional athletes in general, Wilt knew which side his bread was buttered. That’s why he kept his mouth shut during the civil rights hoo-ha and settled for the moolah. I’ve heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I’ve never seen any confirmation of this.

    The chains are tighter these days. NBA star Kyrie Irving promotes— simply in one tweet— a movie produced by Blacks that Black Hebrew Israelites are the true descendants of the biblical Israelites and massa comes down with the whip post haste for this non-kosher tweet or a non-kosher Black film.


    “Doesn’t Kyrie know we already bought and own the rights to being the biblical Israelites??”

    Kyrie heard the whip of his massa:

    Kyrie Irving, Brooklyn Nets to donate $500,000 each to Anti-Defamation League

    https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/nba-brooklyn-nets-face-calls-stronger-response-kyrie/story?id=92536945

  38. WatchAFL is a bargain, in terms of subscription sports viewing.

    Footy (aussie rules) is played on a cricket oval in cricket’s off-season, so any nascent groundswell will have to wait on the project of making cricket more of a thing is the States.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @The Only Catholic Unionist

    Cricket will never catch on in the US, ever. It would’ve by now if it were to. It would only remind people of baseball, which, compared with cricket, plays at a much faster pace. Americans aren’t sitting still to watch a single match that can go 3-4 hrs, 6-8hrs, or 2 days in duration. Compared to all that, baseball moves a lot faster. With the new timing rule, baseball games now average slightly less than 2.30 in duration. If they adopt a 6 pitch limit per AB, that’ll bring the game down close to 2.00 in duration.

    If cricket were to ever have caught on in the US, it would’ve been during baseball’s early dominance in America, say, around 1890’s to 1930’s. But it didn’t, so it never will.

    Replies: @The Only Catholic Unionist, @meh

  39. @Steve Sailer
    @Tony Tea

    Compare white NFL and Australian Rules players: Gronkowski, the Watts, the Bosas, Kelce, Cupp, etc. America has about 6 times as many white people as Australia, so, yeah, it has an advantage. But, still, the best Aussie Rules athletes are really good. Back in 2014, I recall looking up Australian punters in the NFL, and there were two of them, both around 6'5" and 250 pounds in their mid-30s. They'd aged out of all the leaping required in Australian football, but punting in the NFL was child's play for them even in their athletic dotage.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Compare white NFL and Australian Rules players: Gronkowski, the Watts, the Bosas, Kelce, Cupp, etc. America has about 6 times as many white people as Australia, so, yeah, it has an advantage. But, still, the best Aussie Rules athletes are really good. Back in 2014, I recall looking up Australian punters in the NFL, and there were two of them, both around 6’5″ and 250 pounds in their mid-30s. They’d aged out of all the leaping required in Australian football, but punting in the NFL was child’s play for them even in their athletic dotage.

    Rugby is probably the larger grounds for American Football to source talent – there are skilled kicking positions (Fly Half, Fullback) which require both ball handling/running ability and kicking ability, and there are many more people who play Rugby worldwide (the Rugby World Cup starts today, BTW).

    I recall that NFL teams tried to recruit All Blacks Wing Jonah Lomu in the 1990s to play American Football – Lomu was 6’5″ roughly 260 lbs and still a speedy and elusive runner.

    More recently, Philadelphia drafted and developed 6’8″ 365 lb. Aussie of Samoan descent Jordan Mailata into a very good Left Tackle.

    Rugby Union is professional now and since the 1990s, but doesn’t generate the salaries of European professional soccer of American Football, so it would not surprise if you see more exceptional naturally talented Rugby players “switching codes” all the way to American Football from Rugby Football.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Rugby does not allow a forward pass, one of the key distinctions between violent “keep away” games played by adult 7 year olds and grown ups. For the longest time, the average rugby player stood about 6-6’2”, and seldom weighed more then 230 lbs.

    But still no forward pass in global keep away game.

    Rules wise, NFL’s fine as it is. Slowly some improvement is being made on the concussion front. The main thing is to significantly reduce head trauma, and then things will be back to 100%.

    As long as they can continue to make progress regarding reducing head trauma incidents (and ultimately CTE), then the NFL should have another 50-60 years of dominant relevance in the US.

    It’s our sport, and we don’t need the Brits or Aussies to change it up.

  40. @Prester John
    @Blondie Callahan 1970

    "Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense."

    Well, if you include professional athletes in general, Wilt knew which side his bread was buttered. That's why he kept his mouth shut during the civil rights hoo-ha and settled for the moolah. I've heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I've never seen any confirmation of this.

    Replies: @Ye Sherman, @Reg Cæsar, @HammerJack

    I’ve heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I’ve never seen any confirmation of this.

    It would fit his purported sex life.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Reg Cæsar

    Did you just use the term "sex life"? Ewww. What kind of mind would post that kind of thing here? This is a respectable place, get with the program.

    Couldn't resist.

  41. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Steve: "I saw the future and it came true."

    Oops. For a moment there, I thought you had turned into Greta Thunberg.

    "As Stephen Sailer awoke one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a gigantic pest."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @I, Libertine

    I’m probably just missing something obvious ( I haven’t had my coffee yet), but what does likening Steve Sailer to Gregor Samsa have to do with the ability to predict the future, or Australian Rules football?

  42. And for this weeks “Good news Friday” piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota’s Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to “dismantle” the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    • Thanks: Robertson
    • Replies: @UsNthem
    @Bill jones

    LOL. Shivanthi sathanandan - now there’s an all American girl’s name if I ever heard one. How far Minnesota, let alone this land mass, has fallen.

    Replies: @Bill jones

    , @Robertson
    @Bill jones

    Carjacking in her own driveway by 4 "youths". They broke one of her legs.
    Without the police, roving bands of youths could morph into formidable criminal groups, especially since it's acceptable to wear masks, hoodies, and sunglasses in public. They can have both numbers and anonymity now, with less police to stitch together evidence of their identity, whereabouts, and guilt.

    I bet she lived in a decent area also. Can you imagine how working class Minneaotans near the twin cities have it?

    , @Anonymous
    @Bill jones



    https://i2.wp.com/psychodrivein.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/columbo-01.jpg
    I smell a hoax

     

    I think we need a blood splatter expert as that blood and pattern doesn’t look quite right.

    Replies: @Bill jones

    , @HammerJack
    @Bill jones

    Oh snap, I hadn't read this far yet. My apologies!

    , @Erronius
    @Bill jones

    These people have no capacity for abstraction.

    It is not difficult to put aside your personal experience and think about what the ramifications of your proposed policy might induce. That is, if you are not a left-wing ideologue.

    When legislators started to propose the 're-imagine' policing bills, I said they were insane. I have never been violently assailed, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that when you de-criminalize what were previously crimes, you are going to be inundated with crime.

    There are a set of differential equations called the Lotka–Volterra equations. They describe how predators and prey will co-exist in a natural environment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotka%E2%80%93Volterra_equations

    The solutions to these equations is basically oscillatory, with the predator being a bit behind the prey.

    1. There is an abundance of prey.
    2. The predators increase in population, by virtue of an abundance of prey.
    3. The population of the prey declines, due to overwhelming predation.
    4. The population of the predators decline, due to the lack of prey.
    5. The population of prey increases, due to the lack of predators.
    6. The cycle repeats.

    The retail sector is currently experiencing part 3.

    The predators are outnumbering the prey, and the prey cannot survive. The differential equations do not take into account for external actors that might be inclined to protect the prey, like police, but actors like this low-intelligence lady that is not named de-fanged them.

    Back to this nihilistic human being who cannot see beyond her front teeth. Apparently she espoused for the defunding of police. It took a bunch of violent thugs to bash her in the skull to realize that maybe, just maybe, the police have a legitimate function and they will be defunded only on pain of personal violent extra-judicial punishment.

    Government representatives need to be able to have the ability to abstract what might happen in response to their proposed policies enough to realize that their policies might result in the violent, skull-crushing events before they happen.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Frau Katze
    @Bill jones

    Too bad people have to learn the hard way. Better late than never though.

    , @Adolf Smith
    @Bill jones

    So well deserved.
    When I was but a child my parents bought an old wind up RCA record player,as they always played music with their weekend gatherings. It came with a couple of weird old 78rpms.
    One of them was a novelty song called,"Slap Her Down Again,Pa," by Arthur Godfrey,which was critical of wayward girls.
    The lyrics are apropos:
    "Slap 'er down again,pa,slap her down again
    We don't want the neighbors talkin' bout our kin..."
    Just came to mind.

    , @Currahee
    @Bill jones

    Hope they catch the vicious white racists responsible for this.

    , @Rusty Tailgate
    @Bill jones

    , @rebel yell
    @Bill jones

    Her comments are all about MALES attacking her, and getting guns off the street. She never mentioned that the thugs were black. She of course has learned nothing. She will still call for defunding the police when it suits her.
    She'll need more than one beating to get the lesson.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill jones

    Why the long face, ma'am?

  43. Oh I see . We’re not actually worshiping blacks when we watch football, we’re watching Australians will games with their punting.

  44. I wonder what iSteve’s prediction for the future of American foot ball is, given that, despite being worth billions now, it will soon be obsolete due to the problem of CTE.

    Does Australian style football result in less or no CTE brain damage?

    Why does this obvious problem seem to elude most football crazy Americans?

    Aside from mothers’ concerns, no amount of guilt money will be enough to eventually end this brain damaging sport. New research shows that among much younger (suicide victims though) in their 30s, brain CTE damage is evident in those who played violent contact sports.

    iSteve attended Rice U. in Houston. A very small elite university in football crazy Texas. Could never compete with the semi pro college teams there or nearby. If that didn’t end his Football Fever, I guess nothing will.

    He could try rooting for the Houston Texas. Maybe that would work…

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Muggles

    Now that would be funny. Americans running around on an off-season cricket oval while their Hindu overlords play the oval during summer.

    , @Adolf Smith
    @Muggles

    Except...most are black. Oh my,you're not one of those guys who thinks people who pretend to care about blacks really care about 'em,are ye?😆😆

  45. When Daily Mail headlines collide:

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Stan Adams

    Which reminds me, also from today:


    https://i.ibb.co/jH4jWSC/Screenshot-20230908-142538-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Stan Adams

    She can recover the poo poo, and her constituents can lick it, like ice cream.


    Someone Made an Interactive San Francisco Poop Map


    "Interactive"? No grazie!

  46. Everything old is new again.

    From Infogalactic:

    Patrick John “Kangaroo Kicker” O’Dea (March 17, 1872 – April 5, 1962) was an Australian rules and American football player and coach. An Australian by birth, O’Dea played Australian rules football for the Melbourne Football Club in the VFA.[1] In 1898 and 1899, O’Dea played American football at the University of Wisconsin–Madison in the United States, where he excelled in the kicking game. He then served as the head football coach at the University of Notre Dame from 1900 to 1901 and at the University of Missouri in 1902, compiling a career college football record of 19–7–2. O’Dea was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame as a player in 1962.

    https://uwbadgers.com/honors/university-of-wisconsin-athletic-hall-of-fame/pat-o-dea/164

    https://onwisconsin.uwalumni.com/the-kick-that-captivated-a-country/

    He also created a bit of mystery about himself by disappearing for awhile (almost two decades):

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/mar/08/forgotten-story-patrick-odea

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Pat-ODea

  47. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    LOL. Shivanthi sathanandan – now there’s an all American girl’s name if I ever heard one. How far Minnesota, let alone this land mass, has fallen.

    • Replies: @Bill jones
    @UsNthem

    One of the commenters on Zero hedge: 6 hours ago



    Why is she complaining? Back home, she would have been stoned to death.

     

  48. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    Carjacking in her own driveway by 4 “youths”. They broke one of her legs.
    Without the police, roving bands of youths could morph into formidable criminal groups, especially since it’s acceptable to wear masks, hoodies, and sunglasses in public. They can have both numbers and anonymity now, with less police to stitch together evidence of their identity, whereabouts, and guilt.

    I bet she lived in a decent area also. Can you imagine how working class Minneaotans near the twin cities have it?

  49. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar


    I smell a hoax

    I think we need a blood splatter expert as that blood and pattern doesn’t look quite right.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Bill jones
    @Anonymous

    I does look like the blood comes from the Fake Victim Emergency Kit that all Democratic Women carry.

  50. @Female in FL
    Whites, keep watching the negro football league.

    Replies: @Blondie Callahan 1970, @Currahee, @AnotherDad

    Yes indeed. I no longer watch negros chase each other around a lawn.

    • Thanks: Female in FL
  51. @UsNthem
    Hell, when I was in college back in the 70’s, there was a club rugby team that was quite popular and played teams from other schools - many from California. It’s never advanced beyond that in the states as far as I know, but it’s been around for quite some time. As for American football being an exciting spectator sport, especially these days, give me a break.

    Replies: @Erronius

    When I went to UCSB in the mid-late 80s, the University held an annual Rugby competition for outside teams (there were many acres of grass fields at the time, and perhaps there still are).

    At night, the players would get drunk, come through Isla Vista (the small community of students living off-campus next-door to the University) and physically pick up parked cars, like pallbearers, and move them around.

    I was all for it! They were not destroying property, but I suppose they were causing consternation.

    There was enough grief that the University shut down that annual tournament.

  52. @Prester John
    @Blondie Callahan 1970

    "Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense."

    Well, if you include professional athletes in general, Wilt knew which side his bread was buttered. That's why he kept his mouth shut during the civil rights hoo-ha and settled for the moolah. I've heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I've never seen any confirmation of this.

    Replies: @Ye Sherman, @Reg Cæsar, @HammerJack

    Also, I don’t see what risk current-year football players take by punching down upon whitey any chance they get. Times have changed since Wilt’s day.

  53. @Stan Adams
    When Daily Mail headlines collide:

    https://i.ibb.co/ySZ3NdK/irony.png

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Reg Cæsar

    Which reminds me, also from today:

  54. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    Oh snap, I hadn’t read this far yet. My apologies!

  55. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Steve Sailer


    Compare white NFL and Australian Rules players: Gronkowski, the Watts, the Bosas, Kelce, Cupp, etc. America has about 6 times as many white people as Australia, so, yeah, it has an advantage. But, still, the best Aussie Rules athletes are really good. Back in 2014, I recall looking up Australian punters in the NFL, and there were two of them, both around 6’5″ and 250 pounds in their mid-30s. They’d aged out of all the leaping required in Australian football, but punting in the NFL was child’s play for them even in their athletic dotage.
     
    Rugby is probably the larger grounds for American Football to source talent - there are skilled kicking positions (Fly Half, Fullback) which require both ball handling/running ability and kicking ability, and there are many more people who play Rugby worldwide (the Rugby World Cup starts today, BTW).

    I recall that NFL teams tried to recruit All Blacks Wing Jonah Lomu in the 1990s to play American Football - Lomu was 6'5" roughly 260 lbs and still a speedy and elusive runner.

    More recently, Philadelphia drafted and developed 6'8" 365 lb. Aussie of Samoan descent Jordan Mailata into a very good Left Tackle.

    Rugby Union is professional now and since the 1990s, but doesn't generate the salaries of European professional soccer of American Football, so it would not surprise if you see more exceptional naturally talented Rugby players "switching codes" all the way to American Football from Rugby Football.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Rugby does not allow a forward pass, one of the key distinctions between violent “keep away” games played by adult 7 year olds and grown ups. For the longest time, the average rugby player stood about 6-6’2”, and seldom weighed more then 230 lbs.

    But still no forward pass in global keep away game.

    Rules wise, NFL’s fine as it is. Slowly some improvement is being made on the concussion front. The main thing is to significantly reduce head trauma, and then things will be back to 100%.

    As long as they can continue to make progress regarding reducing head trauma incidents (and ultimately CTE), then the NFL should have another 50-60 years of dominant relevance in the US.

    It’s our sport, and we don’t need the Brits or Aussies to change it up.

  56. “Why are there a higher percentage of Aussie punters in college football than the NFL?”

    level of play. anybody who mainly watches NFL just shakes their head and winces when they watch FBS or FCS. players are clearly nowhere near as good. your expectation is – that field goal from 45 yards away just goes in. that punt from the 50 just lands inside the 5 and pins the other team. then you remember you’re watching 20 year olds with no NFL future. and they’re not as hard to replace with 24 year old men from some other country.

    i’m from Pittsburgh, specifically from the burbs. i saw Pat McAfee play high school football for Plum. which was a comical endeavor. he kicked and punted for the football team, also played soccer and volleyball. when he lined up to punt or kick, the return guy would take the usual positioning for a high school level kick…then watch in horror as an NFL level kicked sailed up into the stratosphere, with the returner now running backwards in terror.

    “American punters are traditionally robotic, while Australian punters are unpredictable.”

    American punters are usually football players converted from some other position to punter. they had no interest in kicking originally, and most were not soccer players or rugby players. they were linebackers or tight ends or fullbacks first, occasionally quarterbacks. that’s why they’re so much bigger, stronger, and faster than kickers, and why running fake punts is a thing. you’re having a guy who used to be a position player run a play.

  57. @The Only Catholic Unionist
    WatchAFL is a bargain, in terms of subscription sports viewing.

    Footy (aussie rules) is played on a cricket oval in cricket's off-season, so any nascent groundswell will have to wait on the project of making cricket more of a thing is the States.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Cricket will never catch on in the US, ever. It would’ve by now if it were to. It would only remind people of baseball, which, compared with cricket, plays at a much faster pace. Americans aren’t sitting still to watch a single match that can go 3-4 hrs, 6-8hrs, or 2 days in duration. Compared to all that, baseball moves a lot faster. With the new timing rule, baseball games now average slightly less than 2.30 in duration. If they adopt a 6 pitch limit per AB, that’ll bring the game down close to 2.00 in duration.

    If cricket were to ever have caught on in the US, it would’ve been during baseball’s early dominance in America, say, around 1890’s to 1930’s. But it didn’t, so it never will.

    • Replies: @The Only Catholic Unionist
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It was big then. The great wave immigrants didn't cotton to it, and it has declined over the last century to where it is now. Things can change, tho', the other day I ran across a pamphlet from the 50s where they had to explain what association football was (Association Football is the formal name for what we call soccer).

    , @meh
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Cricket will never catch on in the US, ever. It would’ve by now if it were to. It would only remind people of baseball, which, compared with cricket, plays at a much faster pace. Americans aren’t sitting still to watch a single match that can go 3-4 hrs, 6-8hrs, or 2 days in duration. Compared to all that, baseball moves a lot faster. With the new timing rule, baseball games now average slightly less than 2.30 in duration. If they adopt a 6 pitch limit per AB, that’ll bring the game down close to 2.00 in duration.

    If cricket were to ever have caught on in the US, it would’ve been during baseball’s early dominance in America, say, around 1890’s to 1930’s. But it didn’t, so it never will.
     

    You've got your history backwards; cricket had already "caught on" in this country, 200-300 years ago. cricket was the dominant summer ball sport in the colonies/early 19th century USA, until various forms of baseball grew in popularity in the mid-19th century and the New York baseball rules eventually prevailed after the Civil War. Our Founding Fathers played cricket, not baseball. Some of the early professional baseball players started out as professional cricket players and 'switched codes' as baseball grew in popularity. Cricket held on as a niche elite sport in places like Philadelphia until after WWI. Philadelphia even produced a start cricket player who switched from baseball:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_King

    "Baseball moves at a much faster pace than cricket" is a "truth" spoken by people who confuse duration with pace. Baseball and cricket are equally slow paced; cricket is a longer duration sport in that international test matches last 5 days, first class matches last 4 days, etc., but there are much shorter duration forms of the game such as ODI and T20 cricket. T20 cricket is about the same duration as a baseball game.

    No one complains about a golf tournament being 4 days long; is golf "too slow" for Americans? Millions watch golf on TV and in person, God knows why, but apparently being "too slow" has nothing to do with a sport's popularity or unpopularity. Life is just as fast paced in England and Australia yet baseball never caught on there, in spite of numerous attempts; cricket still dominates summer sport there. It has nothing to do with "pace". It's simply a matter of which game gained dominance in the public mind in a particular country or region, and kept it.

  58. Belichick was one of the few coaches to experiment in the kicking game since kicking became largely uniform by the late 90s – no more guys kicking with two different shoes, or one shoe, or tape on their foot. no more guys with odd kicking motions. no more head on soccer kicks. ‘best practices’ had been established with a concurrent improvement in kicking and punting across the board. to the point where NFL started changing kicking rules to increase difficulty.

    Belichick was deliberately putting left footed punters out there, so the odd ball spin would be harder to catch. also, a few years ago when NFL moved up the kickoff up to encourage touchbacks and discourage runbacks, Belichick experimented with having the kicker try to land the ball around the 5 yard line, in the no man’s zone, where it’s too hard to kneel for the touchback, but a bad place to start a runback. he seems to have given up on this, since no kicker is good enough (yet) to consistently place the ball into the no man’s land.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @prime noticer

    Belichick is also a huge rules nerd and football history nerd, which helps him surprise the less-bookish and less-into-football-history opposing coaches. A few years ago, he figured out the very old "drop kick" was still legal and had Doug Flutie try it out one day to a shocked opposing side.

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/nfl-kicks-drop-kick-doug-flutie-patriots

    Belichick's coaching genius is supplemented by his love of football history, so he'll see an old play he likes in old film, check if its still legal, and pull it out on the field. Drives lesser coaches like Andy Reid -- who doesn't pay attention to basic rules like game clocks and who bragged about never seeing some of the greatest old timey football games--- nuts.

  59. From Der Spiegel, a German magazine that translates a few articles to English every week:

    The failures of the ruling elite has plunged South Africa into a dire political and economic crisis. Six out of 10 young South Africans are jobless and more than half of the country’s 60 million residents live in poverty, according to the World Bank. Furthermore, South Africa’s murder rate is one of the highest in the world, with around 25,000 victims per year. Since Apartheid, more than half a million people have met a violent death.

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/gangs-corruption-and-collapse-the-slow-and-steady-demise-of-south-africa-a-7ed1fcd1-a2e8-446a-9ff9-074718215281

  60. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    These people have no capacity for abstraction.

    It is not difficult to put aside your personal experience and think about what the ramifications of your proposed policy might induce. That is, if you are not a left-wing ideologue.

    When legislators started to propose the ‘re-imagine’ policing bills, I said they were insane. I have never been violently assailed, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that when you de-criminalize what were previously crimes, you are going to be inundated with crime.

    There are a set of differential equations called the Lotka–Volterra equations. They describe how predators and prey will co-exist in a natural environment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotka%E2%80%93Volterra_equations

    The solutions to these equations is basically oscillatory, with the predator being a bit behind the prey.

    1. There is an abundance of prey.
    2. The predators increase in population, by virtue of an abundance of prey.
    3. The population of the prey declines, due to overwhelming predation.
    4. The population of the predators decline, due to the lack of prey.
    5. The population of prey increases, due to the lack of predators.
    6. The cycle repeats.

    The retail sector is currently experiencing part 3.

    The predators are outnumbering the prey, and the prey cannot survive. The differential equations do not take into account for external actors that might be inclined to protect the prey, like police, but actors like this low-intelligence lady that is not named de-fanged them.

    Back to this nihilistic human being who cannot see beyond her front teeth. Apparently she espoused for the defunding of police. It took a bunch of violent thugs to bash her in the skull to realize that maybe, just maybe, the police have a legitimate function and they will be defunded only on pain of personal violent extra-judicial punishment.

    Government representatives need to be able to have the ability to abstract what might happen in response to their proposed policies enough to realize that their policies might result in the violent, skull-crushing events before they happen.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Erronius


    These people have no capacity for abstraction.
     
    Huh? They're nothing but abstract. It's reality they have no capacity for.

    Unless you mean abstraction in the empirical, Bill James (Jacobean?) sense. But that almost makes abstract an autoantonym, like sanction or fast.
  61. Boy do I not care.

    I’m watching the US Open tennis right now. Novak Djokovic, in my opinion the greatest tennis player ever so far, is playing a semifinal match against one of the “Black!” players that are being very heavily touted by “our” media this year.

    Ben Shelton cannot be any more Black! than Barry Obama, and probably is less so:

    Yet “our” sports media is portraying him as a Black! player who is one of several at this US Open who are climbing high and being promoted to a sickening degree.

    I suggest Steve write an essay about how the one drop rule is still applied to woke coverage of tennis.

    In the meantime, I will watch the greatest tennis player in history so far, an Eastern European man, whose family survived worse offenses than any Black! American has in generations, kick his ass.

    PS: Watch for the other Black! American media darling, Coco Gauff, also in the semifinals, against Aryna Sabalenka, another great, White, Eastern European athlete. “Coco” has been pumped, preened, and promoted all along the way leading up to this US Open, and it is disgusting. Yes, she’s a great player, but the condescending, Go Blecks! attitude of our sports media is awful, and it shows.

    Ok, let’s punt this back to your American feetball…

    • Agree: Adolf Smith, Frau Katze
    • Thanks: Female in FL
    • Replies: @UsNthem
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Coconut would fit right in with those other hot tennis beauties, the Williams sisters, lol…

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk

    It feels like the attention given to retarded children.

    https://www.slantmagazine.com/assets/house/lists/15famousmustaches_15.jpg

    , @Mike Tre
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “ I suggest Steve write an essay about how the one drop rule is still applied to woke coverage of tennis”

    Better drop a bigger check in the mail.

    , @Truth
    @Buzz Mohawk

    If he started porking your daughter, what color would he be?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  62. @Blondie Callahan 1970
    @Paul Rise

    I live in Missouri . Mahomes is worshipped here . Now even more so as Missouri has started opening Whataburgers, Mahomes apparently has invested a lot of money into the franchise . Yea Mahomes!

    Replies: @Adolf Smith

    I’m praying he has a bad year,maybe even going full Theisman.( You never go full Theisman!)
    OK,just kidding,but I am a onetime fanatic who hates,hates,hates*sports!

    *Remember him?🤔

  63. @Stan Adams
    When Daily Mail headlines collide:

    https://i.ibb.co/ySZ3NdK/irony.png

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Reg Cæsar

    She can recover the poo poo, and her constituents can lick it, like ice cream.

    Someone Made an Interactive San Francisco Poop Map

    “Interactive”? No grazie!

  64. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    Too bad people have to learn the hard way. Better late than never though.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  65. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "It’s a dull part of the game, and American punters bring no flair to their moments in the spotlight."

    Disagree. When its done correctly and with flair, US punting can be every bit as exciting as Aussie punting.

    A number of years ago, Steve, during, I believe, your review of Malcolm Gladwell's Blink, you mentioned that oftentimes instead of in depth analysis, many times mainstream newspapers end up reading like press releases for the latest fad: talking points to promote whatever new is in the pipeline. Unfortunately, this article has that feel to it.

    "Traditional punters, he said, concentrate on the ball and “have no idea what the rush is doing.”

    Not so much as it was last decades. If anything, smarter punters know that if anyone from the rush breaks through, they'll get an automatic penalty for roughing the punter, which can then lead to an automatic first down for their team (which usually means that their team keeps possession). Smarter punters learn to hesitate when punting, especially if there's a few rushing him. Automatic penalty = keeping possession.


    "it could be a long time until Americans learn to punt as artfully as Australians."

    It was done decades ago in the NFL, two words: RAY GUY. There's a reason that the NCAA punting award is named after him. Regarding US punting, Ray did everything first: more distance, more bounces, accuracy, etc. Ray made punting exciting to watch.

    Granted, perhaps watching the 20th Century's greatest punter had a lot to do with that. But facts are facts, and Ray Guy is one player who changed the way punting in the NFL was played.

    Traditionally, punting isn't the main part of the NFL, perhaps it never will be. In Australian Rules Football, perhaps punting is more of a thing to watch because it makes a bigger contribution to the sport overall.

    But that's a bit disrespectful to ignore Ray Guy's contribution to NFL punting. He changed the position and brought it into the modern era singlehandedly. Ray wasn't a bum or creampuff either.

    Should give the respect where it's due.

    Not saying that NFL punting still doesn't need some improvement, but it certainly has come a lot farther than what it was 50 yrs ago.

    Special teams players seldom will receive the spotlight anyway compared to starters.

    Now placekicking, I think the US will certainly stack up well vs Aussies. After all, there's scoring on the line. Lets see Aussies kick a 65-70 yrd FG, as BAL K Justin Tucker.

    Replies: @MGB

    agree. it’s not dull to see a beautifully placed punt pin back the offense in a critical spot of a game. and without punts, you don’t get exciting punt returns. although i agree with many comments about the game as a cultural thing. if you look at it from that standpoint, professional and big college sports are a fucking degenerate affair. nothing worse undermined college as an academic pursuit than college sports, and sports betting and alcoholism that goes with it.

  66. @Buzz Mohawk
    Boy do I not care.

    I'm watching the US Open tennis right now. Novak Djokovic, in my opinion the greatest tennis player ever so far, is playing a semifinal match against one of the "Black!" players that are being very heavily touted by "our" media this year.

    Ben Shelton cannot be any more Black! than Barry Obama, and probably is less so:


    https://images.hellomagazine.com/horizon/landscape/a749b4ecbe43-ben-shelton.jpg


    Yet "our" sports media is portraying him as a Black! player who is one of several at this US Open who are climbing high and being promoted to a sickening degree.

    I suggest Steve write an essay about how the one drop rule is still applied to woke coverage of tennis.

    In the meantime, I will watch the greatest tennis player in history so far, an Eastern European man, whose family survived worse offenses than any Black! American has in generations, kick his ass.

    PS: Watch for the other Black! American media darling, Coco Gauff, also in the semifinals, against Aryna Sabalenka, another great, White, Eastern European athlete. "Coco" has been pumped, preened, and promoted all along the way leading up to this US Open, and it is disgusting. Yes, she's a great player, but the condescending, Go Blecks! attitude of our sports media is awful, and it shows.

    Ok, let's punt this back to your American feetball...

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Anonymous, @Mike Tre, @Truth

    Coconut would fit right in with those other hot tennis beauties, the Williams sisters, lol…

    • LOL: Female in FL
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @UsNthem


    Coconut would fit right in with those other hot tennis beauties, the Williams sisters, lol…
     
    https://youtu.be/Tbgv8PkO9eo?si=2G0XgiwuitFUZsW9



    (Fun fact: this tune, if that's the word for it, has only one chord, C6. Which means it can be played on a ukulele with one hand.)
  67. @Muggles
    I wonder what iSteve's prediction for the future of American foot ball is, given that, despite being worth billions now, it will soon be obsolete due to the problem of CTE.

    Does Australian style football result in less or no CTE brain damage?

    Why does this obvious problem seem to elude most football crazy Americans?

    Aside from mothers' concerns, no amount of guilt money will be enough to eventually end this brain damaging sport. New research shows that among much younger (suicide victims though) in their 30s, brain CTE damage is evident in those who played violent contact sports.

    iSteve attended Rice U. in Houston. A very small elite university in football crazy Texas. Could never compete with the semi pro college teams there or nearby. If that didn't end his Football Fever, I guess nothing will.

    He could try rooting for the Houston Texas. Maybe that would work...

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Adolf Smith

    Now that would be funny. Americans running around on an off-season cricket oval while their Hindu overlords play the oval during summer.

  68. I had a few pints with a successful South African artist near False Bay. He was in his 70s, but looked 40: burly and healthy. After hours of conversation, he astonished me by mentioning that he’d been a kicker for the Saints.

    He said that when he tried out for the Raiders the holder was not so deft with a left-footed kicker, there being almost none in the league at the time.

    I assume he played rugby at school. Another South African, in his 80s, told me you had to play a team sport at school back in the day: either rugby or field hockey, and that the rugby players called hockey “gay stick.”

  69. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    So well deserved.
    When I was but a child my parents bought an old wind up RCA record player,as they always played music with their weekend gatherings. It came with a couple of weird old 78rpms.
    One of them was a novelty song called,”Slap Her Down Again,Pa,” by Arthur Godfrey,which was critical of wayward girls.
    The lyrics are apropos:
    “Slap ‘er down again,pa,slap her down again
    We don’t want the neighbors talkin’ bout our kin…”
    Just came to mind.

  70. @Buzz Mohawk
    Boy do I not care.

    I'm watching the US Open tennis right now. Novak Djokovic, in my opinion the greatest tennis player ever so far, is playing a semifinal match against one of the "Black!" players that are being very heavily touted by "our" media this year.

    Ben Shelton cannot be any more Black! than Barry Obama, and probably is less so:


    https://images.hellomagazine.com/horizon/landscape/a749b4ecbe43-ben-shelton.jpg


    Yet "our" sports media is portraying him as a Black! player who is one of several at this US Open who are climbing high and being promoted to a sickening degree.

    I suggest Steve write an essay about how the one drop rule is still applied to woke coverage of tennis.

    In the meantime, I will watch the greatest tennis player in history so far, an Eastern European man, whose family survived worse offenses than any Black! American has in generations, kick his ass.

    PS: Watch for the other Black! American media darling, Coco Gauff, also in the semifinals, against Aryna Sabalenka, another great, White, Eastern European athlete. "Coco" has been pumped, preened, and promoted all along the way leading up to this US Open, and it is disgusting. Yes, she's a great player, but the condescending, Go Blecks! attitude of our sports media is awful, and it shows.

    Ok, let's punt this back to your American feetball...

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Anonymous, @Mike Tre, @Truth

    It feels like the attention given to retarded children.

  71. @Muggles
    I wonder what iSteve's prediction for the future of American foot ball is, given that, despite being worth billions now, it will soon be obsolete due to the problem of CTE.

    Does Australian style football result in less or no CTE brain damage?

    Why does this obvious problem seem to elude most football crazy Americans?

    Aside from mothers' concerns, no amount of guilt money will be enough to eventually end this brain damaging sport. New research shows that among much younger (suicide victims though) in their 30s, brain CTE damage is evident in those who played violent contact sports.

    iSteve attended Rice U. in Houston. A very small elite university in football crazy Texas. Could never compete with the semi pro college teams there or nearby. If that didn't end his Football Fever, I guess nothing will.

    He could try rooting for the Houston Texas. Maybe that would work...

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Adolf Smith

    Except…most are black. Oh my,you’re not one of those guys who thinks people who pretend to care about blacks really care about ’em,are ye?😆😆

  72. @Female in FL
    Whites, keep watching the negro football league.

    Replies: @Blondie Callahan 1970, @Currahee, @AnotherDad

    Whites, keep watching the negro football league.

    Agree. Absolutely embarrassing.

    Played plenty of touch when I was a kid and have enjoyed throwing the ball around my whole life.
    I watched a fair amount when I was a teenager. And watched a few games 10-15 back, when my son when he was interested (usually shooting pool).

    But the NFL signed on–firmly–to the minoritarian “racist flyover whitey is oppressing blacks!” lying.

    For giving a big FU to the bulk of their fanbase … they took a very modest hit–I think it was 15% or so. And then they recovered. Imagine if their ratings had actually dropped 50%–the message to American business/TPTB? But the white fanboys just had to watch. And this wasn’t your bank or your grocery store, but something completely, utterly unnecessary–that’s in fact a huge time waster.

    White guys–all normies–just do something else:
    — go play ball with your kids! or take ’em to the park
    — go for a Sunday drive–or some other romantic interlude time–with the wife
    — picnic/barbeque with some neighbor families
    — go golfing or fishing with your buddies
    — go for a family hike
    — knock out stuff on your honey-do list
    — read a book
    — go to the gym
    — start an HBD discussion group

    Think of all the less time-wasting stuff you could do.

    And think how good it would be for America if the NFL owners saw their ratings tumble 50%.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk, Old Prude
    • Replies: @Female in FL
    @AnotherDad

    I could not agree with you more.
    Was a huge fan of football, high school, college and pro, my Friday through Monday schedule was sewed up. Daughter was a sideline trainer in high school in Pa, a team that won the state championship twice while she was there. The local cable company aired their games.
    It was not hard for me to give it up, why support negroes who hate me?
    Live now in a gated conservative area in Florida, the number of white women watching that garbage blows my mind.
    The tv ratings are a huge disappointment, on a par with a white couple gussied up in their teams Jersey.

  73. Anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Blondie Callahan 1970
    @Female in FL

    Never was a sports guy really. I was always into cars and going fast. Nothing against the sports ball , just wasn’t my cup of tea . Would watch a game occasionally or the Super Bowl .

    After the Kapernick all YT’s must go , fuck everyone one of them and the white beta males who watch rich black man spit on them , while their wives wear a jersey with some knee grows name on their back . Apparently black football players are too stupid to realize white America made them rich , damn they’re dense.

    And guys on the job site think I’m the weirdo because I have no clue who these fellas are talking about .

    “ Did you see the catch so and so made last night , it was incredible .” I hear that shit all the time . Great , football season is back …..

    Sorry but sports never impressed me . A 12 year old can play football . I can think of a lot more things that require talent and skill. That 12 year olds can’t do . Maybe those super talented football players should put their talents to better use . They could start with rebuilding everything the white man gave them and blacks destroyed in the process. Show us what you brutha’s gots, homies.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Anonymous

    Job site

    Thanks, this gives me perspective on what has always seemed like a hysterical negative reaction whenever Steve talks about pro sports. If I had to work with blue-collar knuckleheads everyday who only cared about sports I’d probably come to resent them as well. Mike Tre’s another blue-collar guy on this forum who also freaks out whenever Steve mentions sports.

  74. Then again, you can have an Australian punter, Brad Wing, score a touchdown and have it overturned and penalized due to taunting on the five yard line

  75. Democrats – MORE TAXES on the Second Amendment!

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Joe Stalin

    Banning gasoline powered cars will be catastrophic for working class Californians. It is quite clear the politicians despise the poor snd have been making life a living hell for poor Americans for decades.

  76. @Buzz Mohawk
    Boy do I not care.

    I'm watching the US Open tennis right now. Novak Djokovic, in my opinion the greatest tennis player ever so far, is playing a semifinal match against one of the "Black!" players that are being very heavily touted by "our" media this year.

    Ben Shelton cannot be any more Black! than Barry Obama, and probably is less so:


    https://images.hellomagazine.com/horizon/landscape/a749b4ecbe43-ben-shelton.jpg


    Yet "our" sports media is portraying him as a Black! player who is one of several at this US Open who are climbing high and being promoted to a sickening degree.

    I suggest Steve write an essay about how the one drop rule is still applied to woke coverage of tennis.

    In the meantime, I will watch the greatest tennis player in history so far, an Eastern European man, whose family survived worse offenses than any Black! American has in generations, kick his ass.

    PS: Watch for the other Black! American media darling, Coco Gauff, also in the semifinals, against Aryna Sabalenka, another great, White, Eastern European athlete. "Coco" has been pumped, preened, and promoted all along the way leading up to this US Open, and it is disgusting. Yes, she's a great player, but the condescending, Go Blecks! attitude of our sports media is awful, and it shows.

    Ok, let's punt this back to your American feetball...

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Anonymous, @Mike Tre, @Truth

    “ I suggest Steve write an essay about how the one drop rule is still applied to woke coverage of tennis”

    Better drop a bigger check in the mail.

  77. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    Hope they catch the vicious white racists responsible for this.

  78. I think we are now at Peak NFL right now.

    With absurd team price valuations and player salaries, etc.

    Soon it will be streaming broadcast only(“pay TV”).

    Also, major online/cell phone sports betting companies have consolidated so only a few of those left. Semi monopolies.

    The NFL enjoys protected semi monopoly status and politicians enjoy huge donations from media streamers and undoubtedly betting companies. These only feed on the “disease” of gambling.

    But soon enough, the permanent brain damage suffered by players will become illegal or just too costly to maintain. Actual “death matches” are already illegal.

    There are safer sports which are widely popular around the world. Colleges can sponsor soccer like they do basketball.

    Helmets and “concussion protocol” won’t cut it much longer.

    This isn’t a popular view but mandatory seat belts weren’t either.

    Also, aside from lower level “coaching” of fatherless young Black! males, there is very little benefit to youth football and nothing but livelong injury for older players. Only a tiny fraction of the male population can even play contact football at any level. So it is a social negative.

    Of course the gladiator games were popular in ancient Rome. How much longer will Dementia Ball be lionized here?

  79. @UsNthem
    @Bill jones

    LOL. Shivanthi sathanandan - now there’s an all American girl’s name if I ever heard one. How far Minnesota, let alone this land mass, has fallen.

    Replies: @Bill jones

    One of the commenters on Zero hedge: 6 hours ago

    Why is she complaining? Back home, she would have been stoned to death.

    • LOL: UsNthem
  80. @AnotherDad
    @Female in FL


    Whites, keep watching the negro football league.
     
    Agree. Absolutely embarrassing.

    Played plenty of touch when I was a kid and have enjoyed throwing the ball around my whole life.
    I watched a fair amount when I was a teenager. And watched a few games 10-15 back, when my son when he was interested (usually shooting pool).

    But the NFL signed on--firmly--to the minoritarian "racist flyover whitey is oppressing blacks!" lying.

    For giving a big FU to the bulk of their fanbase ... they took a very modest hit--I think it was 15% or so. And then they recovered. Imagine if their ratings had actually dropped 50%--the message to American business/TPTB? But the white fanboys just had to watch. And this wasn't your bank or your grocery store, but something completely, utterly unnecessary--that's in fact a huge time waster.

    White guys--all normies--just do something else:
    -- go play ball with your kids! or take 'em to the park
    -- go for a Sunday drive--or some other romantic interlude time--with the wife
    -- picnic/barbeque with some neighbor families
    -- go golfing or fishing with your buddies
    -- go for a family hike
    -- knock out stuff on your honey-do list
    -- read a book
    -- go to the gym
    -- start an HBD discussion group

    Think of all the less time-wasting stuff you could do.

    And think how good it would be for America if the NFL owners saw their ratings tumble 50%.

    Replies: @Female in FL

    I could not agree with you more.
    Was a huge fan of football, high school, college and pro, my Friday through Monday schedule was sewed up. Daughter was a sideline trainer in high school in Pa, a team that won the state championship twice while she was there. The local cable company aired their games.
    It was not hard for me to give it up, why support negroes who hate me?
    Live now in a gated conservative area in Florida, the number of white women watching that garbage blows my mind.
    The tv ratings are a huge disappointment, on a par with a white couple gussied up in their teams Jersey.

    • Agree: UsNthem, R.G. Camara
  81. You can keep your Aussie punters, I would like a return of the Danny White punter / quarterback. He always had the pass option on 4th and less than 10. He was a better than average punter as well.

  82. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

  83. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @The Only Catholic Unionist

    Cricket will never catch on in the US, ever. It would’ve by now if it were to. It would only remind people of baseball, which, compared with cricket, plays at a much faster pace. Americans aren’t sitting still to watch a single match that can go 3-4 hrs, 6-8hrs, or 2 days in duration. Compared to all that, baseball moves a lot faster. With the new timing rule, baseball games now average slightly less than 2.30 in duration. If they adopt a 6 pitch limit per AB, that’ll bring the game down close to 2.00 in duration.

    If cricket were to ever have caught on in the US, it would’ve been during baseball’s early dominance in America, say, around 1890’s to 1930’s. But it didn’t, so it never will.

    Replies: @The Only Catholic Unionist, @meh

    It was big then. The great wave immigrants didn’t cotton to it, and it has declined over the last century to where it is now. Things can change, tho’, the other day I ran across a pamphlet from the 50s where they had to explain what association football was (Association Football is the formal name for what we call soccer).

  84. @prime noticer
    Belichick was one of the few coaches to experiment in the kicking game since kicking became largely uniform by the late 90s - no more guys kicking with two different shoes, or one shoe, or tape on their foot. no more guys with odd kicking motions. no more head on soccer kicks. 'best practices' had been established with a concurrent improvement in kicking and punting across the board. to the point where NFL started changing kicking rules to increase difficulty.

    Belichick was deliberately putting left footed punters out there, so the odd ball spin would be harder to catch. also, a few years ago when NFL moved up the kickoff up to encourage touchbacks and discourage runbacks, Belichick experimented with having the kicker try to land the ball around the 5 yard line, in the no man's zone, where it's too hard to kneel for the touchback, but a bad place to start a runback. he seems to have given up on this, since no kicker is good enough (yet) to consistently place the ball into the no man's land.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Belichick is also a huge rules nerd and football history nerd, which helps him surprise the less-bookish and less-into-football-history opposing coaches. A few years ago, he figured out the very old “drop kick” was still legal and had Doug Flutie try it out one day to a shocked opposing side.

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/nfl-kicks-drop-kick-doug-flutie-patriots

    Belichick’s coaching genius is supplemented by his love of football history, so he’ll see an old play he likes in old film, check if its still legal, and pull it out on the field. Drives lesser coaches like Andy Reid — who doesn’t pay attention to basic rules like game clocks and who bragged about never seeing some of the greatest old timey football games— nuts.

  85. People’s Republic of New Mexico

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Joe Stalin

    https://twitter.com/ABQPOLICE/status/1700349428006047820
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1700343125913313603
    https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/status/1700316782546845847
    https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/status/1700336217370300611
    https://twitter.com/AuthorSingh/status/1700464436304114083

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  86. Tory Taylor, U of Iowa!!!

  87. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    Her comments are all about MALES attacking her, and getting guns off the street. She never mentioned that the thugs were black. She of course has learned nothing. She will still call for defunding the police when it suits her.
    She’ll need more than one beating to get the lesson.

  88. @Ray Guy was the GOAT
    Distance, accuracy, and consistency take years of honing. Australian punters will never be thing in the NFL.

    Watch this Dude Perfect edition “Punters are People Too” with NFL punter Johnny Hekker (6’ 5”, 225lbs.) to appreciate the skill:

    https://youtu.be/WQ_tHqMVRzw?si=lIBZMgVuGe5J1OmT

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @ScarletNumber

    Looking at those banners, it occurs to me that not only have the Rams won the NFL championship 4 times, but each time they played their home games in a different stadium.

    ∙ 1945 Cleveland Stadium
    ∙ 1951 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum
    ∙ 1999 Trans World Dome
    ∙ 2021 SoFi Stadium

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @ScarletNumber


    ∙ Looking at those banners, it occurs to me that not only have the Rams won the NFL championship 4 times, but each time they played their home games in a different stadium.

    ∙ 1945 Cleveland Stadium
    ∙ 1951 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum
    ∙ 1999 Trans World Dome
    ∙ 2021 SoFi Stadium
     
    Not only that, they average one championship per each city move. Plus one for the origin city.

    Also, fuck those kneelers.
  89. @UsNthem
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Coconut would fit right in with those other hot tennis beauties, the Williams sisters, lol…

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Coconut would fit right in with those other hot tennis beauties, the Williams sisters, lol…

    (Fun fact: this tune, if that’s the word for it, has only one chord, C6. Which means it can be played on a ukulele with one hand.)

    • LOL: UsNthem
  90. @Erronius
    @Bill jones

    These people have no capacity for abstraction.

    It is not difficult to put aside your personal experience and think about what the ramifications of your proposed policy might induce. That is, if you are not a left-wing ideologue.

    When legislators started to propose the 're-imagine' policing bills, I said they were insane. I have never been violently assailed, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that when you de-criminalize what were previously crimes, you are going to be inundated with crime.

    There are a set of differential equations called the Lotka–Volterra equations. They describe how predators and prey will co-exist in a natural environment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotka%E2%80%93Volterra_equations

    The solutions to these equations is basically oscillatory, with the predator being a bit behind the prey.

    1. There is an abundance of prey.
    2. The predators increase in population, by virtue of an abundance of prey.
    3. The population of the prey declines, due to overwhelming predation.
    4. The population of the predators decline, due to the lack of prey.
    5. The population of prey increases, due to the lack of predators.
    6. The cycle repeats.

    The retail sector is currently experiencing part 3.

    The predators are outnumbering the prey, and the prey cannot survive. The differential equations do not take into account for external actors that might be inclined to protect the prey, like police, but actors like this low-intelligence lady that is not named de-fanged them.

    Back to this nihilistic human being who cannot see beyond her front teeth. Apparently she espoused for the defunding of police. It took a bunch of violent thugs to bash her in the skull to realize that maybe, just maybe, the police have a legitimate function and they will be defunded only on pain of personal violent extra-judicial punishment.

    Government representatives need to be able to have the ability to abstract what might happen in response to their proposed policies enough to realize that their policies might result in the violent, skull-crushing events before they happen.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    These people have no capacity for abstraction.

    Huh? They’re nothing but abstract. It’s reality they have no capacity for.

    Unless you mean abstraction in the empirical, Bill James (Jacobean?) sense. But that almost makes abstract an autoantonym, like sanction or fast.

  91. @Bill jones
    And for this weeks "Good news Friday" piece:

    The second vice chairwoman for Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, who previously vowed to "dismantle" the Minneapolis Police Department amid widespread Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, is now calling for tougher crime laws after she was violently carjacked this week.
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defund-police-democrat-politician-left-broken-leg-bloodied-face-after-violent-carjacking

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/her%20face.JPG

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Robertson, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @Erronius, @Frau Katze, @Adolf Smith, @Currahee, @Rusty Tailgate, @rebel yell, @Reg Cæsar

    Why the long face, ma’am?

  92. @Joe Stalin

    Democrats - MORE TAXES on the Second Amendment!
     
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1700232406832177336
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1700237218210586627
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1700233939523145789
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1700144068683075958

    Replies: @Travis

    Banning gasoline powered cars will be catastrophic for working class Californians. It is quite clear the politicians despise the poor snd have been making life a living hell for poor Americans for decades.

  93. @ScarletNumber
    @Ray Guy was the GOAT

    Looking at those banners, it occurs to me that not only have the Rams won the NFL championship 4 times, but each time they played their home games in a different stadium.

    ∙ 1945 Cleveland Stadium
    ∙ 1951 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum
    ∙ 1999 Trans World Dome
    ∙ 2021 SoFi Stadium

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    ∙ Looking at those banners, it occurs to me that not only have the Rams won the NFL championship 4 times, but each time they played their home games in a different stadium.

    ∙ 1945 Cleveland Stadium
    ∙ 1951 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum
    ∙ 1999 Trans World Dome
    ∙ 2021 SoFi Stadium

    Not only that, they average one championship per each city move. Plus one for the origin city.

    Also, fuck those kneelers.

  94. @Reg Cæsar
    @Prester John


    I’ve heard that Chamberlain was a closet Randite but I’ve never seen any confirmation of this.
     
    It would fit his purported sex life.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Did you just use the term “sex life”? Ewww. What kind of mind would post that kind of thing here? This is a respectable place, get with the program.

    Couldn’t resist.

  95. @Shale boi
    Sav Rocca played for the Eagles and Redskins, well before your 2014 epiphany. Aussie rules was already starting to be an influence then. Not all NFL punters are as adept at rugby style kicks, but they are all aware of them and train them. Takes the real Aussies to do those "eluding the rush, run to the side and kick while running" plays after bad snaps.

    Some punters are even pretty decent at drop kicking. I remember the Skins kicker getting hurt and Tress Way (punter) hitting a chip shot place kick. The punter was the in game replacement for the place kicker. The coach asked him if he wanted to drop kick it and he said no way, so he hit the place kick goal. But mentioned that the opposing punter was very skilled at drop kicks and would have probably done so in the same situation.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Tony Tea

    Colin Ridgeway was the first Australian punter on NFL books but I don’t think he played. (He is more infamously known for being the victim of an unsolved murder in Texas.) Next punter I think was Darren Bennett. He played mostly for San Diego and made the pro bowl.

  96. @Stan Adams
    Native-born American whites pay the taxes that subsidize these teams and then we get shut out of one of the last positions that is dominated by whites.

    You know that native-born American white kid who grew up dreaming of football glory and saw punting as his one big chance? F**k him.

    Somebody told me once that "Aussies and Brits are our brothers, so it doesn't really matter if they come over here and take jobs from Americans." My response? "How would you react if your father cut you out of his will and left everything to your brother? Would you approve wholeheartedly?"

    The bottom line is that there is NO reason for any native-born American white guy to support any of the pro sports leagues.

    Replies: @Richard B, @sb

    Be careful what you wish for.
    Australian sport is full of foreigners including Americans.
    There is even an American playing AFL (Mason Cox for Collingwood)
    I think that there are more Americans in Australia than there are Australians in the US and a mutual ban on nationals taking locals jobs may end up hurting America more.

  97. @Anonymous
    @Bill jones



    https://i2.wp.com/psychodrivein.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/columbo-01.jpg
    I smell a hoax

     

    I think we need a blood splatter expert as that blood and pattern doesn’t look quite right.

    Replies: @Bill jones

    I does look like the blood comes from the Fake Victim Emergency Kit that all Democratic Women carry.

  98. @Buzz Mohawk
    Boy do I not care.

    I'm watching the US Open tennis right now. Novak Djokovic, in my opinion the greatest tennis player ever so far, is playing a semifinal match against one of the "Black!" players that are being very heavily touted by "our" media this year.

    Ben Shelton cannot be any more Black! than Barry Obama, and probably is less so:


    https://images.hellomagazine.com/horizon/landscape/a749b4ecbe43-ben-shelton.jpg


    Yet "our" sports media is portraying him as a Black! player who is one of several at this US Open who are climbing high and being promoted to a sickening degree.

    I suggest Steve write an essay about how the one drop rule is still applied to woke coverage of tennis.

    In the meantime, I will watch the greatest tennis player in history so far, an Eastern European man, whose family survived worse offenses than any Black! American has in generations, kick his ass.

    PS: Watch for the other Black! American media darling, Coco Gauff, also in the semifinals, against Aryna Sabalenka, another great, White, Eastern European athlete. "Coco" has been pumped, preened, and promoted all along the way leading up to this US Open, and it is disgusting. Yes, she's a great player, but the condescending, Go Blecks! attitude of our sports media is awful, and it shows.

    Ok, let's punt this back to your American feetball...

    Replies: @UsNthem, @Anonymous, @Mike Tre, @Truth

    If he started porking your daughter, what color would he be?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Truth

    LOL. I don't have any children.

    That is by choice, because I am genetically flawed but intelligent enough to know not to have them. (I resolved not to subject any offspring to my particular insanity. All those "unborn children" should thank me.)

    But if I did have a daughter, I would advise her to use birth control, enjoy herself, and fuck her brains out with this guy.

    Get it?

    No, you probably don't. Such is IQ.

    Replies: @Truth

  99. @Steve Sailer
    @Shale boi

    Doug Flutie, appropriately, scored the last dropkick point in NFL history in his last game.

    Replies: @res, @Rohirrimborn

    I’m a 1973 grad of Bronxville High School. There was a scion of the famous Brickley family who was doing drop kicks for BHS in the sixties.

  100. @Truth
    @Buzz Mohawk

    If he started porking your daughter, what color would he be?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    LOL. I don’t have any children.

    That is by choice, because I am genetically flawed but intelligent enough to know not to have them. (I resolved not to subject any offspring to my particular insanity. All those “unborn children” should thank me.)

    But if I did have a daughter, I would advise her to use birth control, enjoy herself, and fuck her brains out with this guy.

    Get it?

    No, you probably don’t. Such is IQ.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Buzz Mohawk


    I am genetically flawed
     


    But if I did have a daughter, I would advise her to use birth control, enjoy herself, and fuck her brains out with this guy.
     
    https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/4675091-Socrates-Quote-Know-thyself.jpg

    I think the great Socrates is smiling from above right now... or wherever he is.
  101. @Steve Sailer
    @Tony Tea

    Right. Most of the Australians now punting in the U.S. are guys who couldn't make it to the top in Australia. The top Aussie Rules players in Australia are Rob Gronkowski-style specimens.

    Replies: @Tony Tea, @njguy73

    When “Ted Lasso” wraps up, the next sports sitcom could be about an Aussie rules player who gets cut from his team and signs up to be a quarterback-kicker-punter in the NFL. Get some actor who’s part Aboriginal. Just ticking that box alone should get a nine-episode commitment from Netflix.

  102. @DenverGregg
    NFL has been dead to me since an ad "Football is [word that should never be mentioned about, by, or to a human being]" in 2021. But before that i remember noting only seeing one black punter in the pros: Reggie Roby of the Dolphins in the 80s.

    Replies: @njguy73

    The other Black punter was Greg Coleman, who punted 12 seasons for Cleveland, Minnesota, and Washington. His cousin was base-stealing outfielder Vince Coleman.

  103. @Joe Stalin

    People's Republic of New Mexico
     
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1700282948858069245
    https://twitter.com/KOB4/status/1700280578828877979
    https://twitter.com/NM_SSA/status/1700270474738155795

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Joe Stalin

    This is beautiful. Even anti-gun psychos like Ted Lieu and David Hogg are jumping on Twitter (X?) with a damage-control script about Governor Grisham and friends’ major strategic fuckup.

    https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1700601787605266779

    https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1700589909390835901

  104. @Joe Stalin
    @Joe Stalin

    https://twitter.com/ABQPOLICE/status/1700349428006047820
    https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1700343125913313603
    https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/status/1700316782546845847
    https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/status/1700336217370300611
    https://twitter.com/AuthorSingh/status/1700464436304114083

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    This is beautiful. Even anti-gun psychos like Ted Lieu and David Hogg are jumping on Twitter (X?) with a damage-control script about Governor Grisham and friends’ major strategic fuckup.

    [MORE]

  105. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Truth

    LOL. I don't have any children.

    That is by choice, because I am genetically flawed but intelligent enough to know not to have them. (I resolved not to subject any offspring to my particular insanity. All those "unborn children" should thank me.)

    But if I did have a daughter, I would advise her to use birth control, enjoy herself, and fuck her brains out with this guy.

    Get it?

    No, you probably don't. Such is IQ.

    Replies: @Truth

    I am genetically flawed

    But if I did have a daughter, I would advise her to use birth control, enjoy herself, and fuck her brains out with this guy.

    I think the great Socrates is smiling from above right now… or wherever he is.

  106. @Tony Tea
    @Steve Sailer

    Size is definitely one aspect of where US football would have us covered. I reckon if you guys geared up for a serious tilt at Aussie Rules, you'd eventually go past us.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @sb

    Australian football is an aerobically challenging game. American football is not.
    Different sports for different types of athletes in different sporting cultures.

  107. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @The Only Catholic Unionist

    Cricket will never catch on in the US, ever. It would’ve by now if it were to. It would only remind people of baseball, which, compared with cricket, plays at a much faster pace. Americans aren’t sitting still to watch a single match that can go 3-4 hrs, 6-8hrs, or 2 days in duration. Compared to all that, baseball moves a lot faster. With the new timing rule, baseball games now average slightly less than 2.30 in duration. If they adopt a 6 pitch limit per AB, that’ll bring the game down close to 2.00 in duration.

    If cricket were to ever have caught on in the US, it would’ve been during baseball’s early dominance in America, say, around 1890’s to 1930’s. But it didn’t, so it never will.

    Replies: @The Only Catholic Unionist, @meh

    Cricket will never catch on in the US, ever. It would’ve by now if it were to. It would only remind people of baseball, which, compared with cricket, plays at a much faster pace. Americans aren’t sitting still to watch a single match that can go 3-4 hrs, 6-8hrs, or 2 days in duration. Compared to all that, baseball moves a lot faster. With the new timing rule, baseball games now average slightly less than 2.30 in duration. If they adopt a 6 pitch limit per AB, that’ll bring the game down close to 2.00 in duration.

    If cricket were to ever have caught on in the US, it would’ve been during baseball’s early dominance in America, say, around 1890’s to 1930’s. But it didn’t, so it never will.

    You’ve got your history backwards; cricket had already “caught on” in this country, 200-300 years ago. cricket was the dominant summer ball sport in the colonies/early 19th century USA, until various forms of baseball grew in popularity in the mid-19th century and the New York baseball rules eventually prevailed after the Civil War. Our Founding Fathers played cricket, not baseball. Some of the early professional baseball players started out as professional cricket players and ‘switched codes’ as baseball grew in popularity. Cricket held on as a niche elite sport in places like Philadelphia until after WWI. Philadelphia even produced a start cricket player who switched from baseball:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_King

    “Baseball moves at a much faster pace than cricket” is a “truth” spoken by people who confuse duration with pace. Baseball and cricket are equally slow paced; cricket is a longer duration sport in that international test matches last 5 days, first class matches last 4 days, etc., but there are much shorter duration forms of the game such as ODI and T20 cricket. T20 cricket is about the same duration as a baseball game.

    No one complains about a golf tournament being 4 days long; is golf “too slow” for Americans? Millions watch golf on TV and in person, God knows why, but apparently being “too slow” has nothing to do with a sport’s popularity or unpopularity. Life is just as fast paced in England and Australia yet baseball never caught on there, in spite of numerous attempts; cricket still dominates summer sport there. It has nothing to do with “pace”. It’s simply a matter of which game gained dominance in the public mind in a particular country or region, and kept it.

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    @Ray Guy was the GOAT

    Johnny Hekker might have been the greatest American punter since, I don't know, Ray
    Guy.

    Replies: @DCThrowback

    Guy could throw too! He was awesome on fake punts for Fisher & McVay’s Rams.

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