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From Comparative Sociology:

Rindermann, H. & Carl, N. (2018).

Human rights: Why countries differ.

Comparative Sociology, 17, 29-69.

Abstract:
Countries differ with respect to human rights. Using the cross-country CIRI data (Cingranelli & Richards), we tested two theories. The cognitive-moral enlightenment theory going back to Piaget and Socrates postulates that individuals and nations with higher levels of cognitive ability think and behave in a way more conducive to human rights. The culture-religion theory going back to Weber, Sombart and Voltaire postulates that different religious beliefs shape attitudes, and propel societies toward institutions that are more or less supportive of human rights. Cognitive ability had a positive impact on human rights but its effect varied depending on the country sample. More important was religion, both in cross-sectional and longitudinal models. Percentage of Christians had a positive impact (r = .62, total effect beta = .63), percentage of Muslims had a negative one (r = –.57, total effect beta = –.59). Political institutions are highly correlated with human rights, but religion is the decisive background factor.

But this study must be using old-fashioned definitions of human rights such as freedom of speech and freedom of religion, when everybody knows the only two human rights that matter these days are freedom of Muslims in Muslim countries to move to your country so they can enjoy more human rights and the Muslim newcomers’ right to feel comfortable in what used to be your country by imposing Muslim views of freedom (freedom to be Muslim).

 
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  1. Link to study? Can’t find it via google.

    • Replies: @George
    @Josh Wexler

    The study is probably not as complimentary as Judeo Christians are thinking.

    Are homosexual rights an example of improved human rights or societal decedance? When examining human rights of Christian Nations does foreign colonies and occupations count?

  2. Anonymous [AKA "Fgyyf"] says:

    Don’t tell Steven Pinker that who spends much of the last chapter of Enlightenment Now attacking Christianity

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Anonymous

    Really? Maybe I won’t even read it. I bought the ebook by mistake instead just the free sample.

    He’s trying to be trendy. I guess a chapter on the marvels of Islam might too obvious and contradict common sense.

    This study confirms common sense.

    Criticizing Christianity is so commonplace. I was hoping for some new ideas.

    , @Tyrion 2
    @Anonymous

    He has fallen in with the Spiked Online crowd. They are very pro-Enlightenment. They are also an important part of the anti-SJW fightback as they are neither nihilists nor third world or even third sex volkists.

    , @DFH
    @Anonymous

    A Jew who hates Christ? How novel!

  3. The USA literally has the worst human rights record in history thanks to Blonald Blumph!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Tiny Duck Farts

    Tiny Duck Farts, (and allow me to say it gives me great pleasure to address you by name, Tiny Duck Farts,)

    I was looking at that CIRI dataset and said, What? The rights came from one (1) of the nine core instruments. Then I saw where they came from. Aha. From DoS country reports. DoS only looks at the lame little driblet of halfassed rights the US government lets you have (except when they take them away from you with bad-faith interpretation of the instruments, like when cops want to handcuff you and tase the crap out of you and then shoot you eight times.) Getting human-rights evals from DoS is like asking Michael Jackson to evaluate your daycare center.

    The right way to do this is to code the OHCHR Useful Information, weighting Issues and Conclusions and Recommendations* by article, with binary variables for follow-ons (more urgent derogations,) and coding UPR recommendations** for deficient commitments, then then do a cluster analysis.

    Course if any professor went and did that, he and his tenure would be shit through a goose and he'd wind up Adjunct Lecturer in Emptying Wastebaskets at National American University's flagship Mall of America campus.

    * from http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Countries/Pages/HumanRightsintheWorld.aspx

    ** those are conveniently compiled here, https://www.upr-info.org/database/ though some of the cheekiest recommendations, like North Korea's, tend to get bowdlerized. For all the best zingers you need to go to treatybodywebcast.org

    , @Currahee
    @Tiny Duck Farts

    hi Tiny!
    where would you most like to live (Wakanda off table)?

  4. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    West is like parents who neglect their own kids to adopt more kids and then neglect the adopted kids to adopt yet more kids and then neglect them to adopt more kids..

    A civilization addicted to the cult of newness and novelty. It has no attention span, no memory, no nothing but the thrill of getting more new stuff.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Anon

    Absolutely.

    There is a famous lady who epitomises this. Hint, she has been diagnosed with BPD and works for the UNHCR.

    To elucidate on her kids:

    1. Adopted her first child, a boy, from Cambodia in order to stop her self-harm.

    2. Adopted a girl from Ethiopia after visiting the country for the first time and deciding she wanted one.

    3. Had a baby herself who supposedly decided that she was actually a boy at the age of 4. In exactly the same way that some crazy vegetarian lady's cat 'decided' that it was a vegetarian too. LGBT - check!

    4. Got bored again, so ordered in a Vietnamese boy.

    5. Had twins! I assume a purposeful product of IVF and quite a novelty for a woman used to collecting just one of each type.

    , @Jake
    @Anon

    That's a good way of putting it.

    To get there, we had to rebel against Christendom, which made certain we would both have deep guilt (meaning, we would feel we needed punishment) and search for new defining meaning in ideology, which necessarily would keep moving ever farther from any defense of the West that used to be Christendom.

  5. When you think about about, sharia is all about forcing you to be free, as a devout Muslim following the edicts of the local Imam, who is probably illiterate. It makes perfect sense when you think about and just shut up.

    In not so long, we’re going to loom like Ireland during the troubles. The locals will be in revolt against their foreign masters.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    @The Z Blog


    a devout Muslim following the edicts of the local Imam, who is probably illiterate.
     
    There are plenty of educated Muslims, that includes many pietist, scripture obsessed minority whose view of ijima - consensus - is that they are right and they are willing to kill and die enforcing that view on others.

    Replies: @Rod1963

    , @nebulafox
    @The Z Blog

    One of the interesting differences between Sunni and Shi'a Islam, from my limited understanding, is that the former is a lot more decentralized. Shi'a Islam, on the other hand, has a very organized, hierarchial structure of mullahs and imams who are the only ones authorized to give fatwas-and becoming one takes decades of training, not too dissimilar from how entering the hierarchy of the Catholic Church would have been many centuries ago.

    The overwhelming majority of terrorists attacking the West are Sunnis. Granted, part of that is simply numerics, but even so, the very anti-Western sort of Qutbism seems to really be rooted in a specifically Sunni form of literalist, radical Islam-it is in Sunni Islam that a figure like, say, Zarqawi, can find prominence more easily. In Shi'a Islam, the formal strictures of the religion would operate against him. Shi'a terrorist attacks are invariably almost always carried out within the Middle East for sectarian purposes as opposed to attacking the West. Even when the Persians launch covert operations in the West, it is almost always to assassinate specific Middle Eastern figures that they don't like for political reasons (say, the Saudi ambassador to the US or certain Kurdish guerrilla leaders) rather than to attack random European or American civilians out of a high-flung mix of jihad fervor and nihilism.

    This isn't to downplay the deep hostility that the mullahs (and the Basij Militia, Quds, et all) have toward to the West writ large and to the US and Israel in particular, but the idea that Iran is the major terrorist threat that we face, as opposed to the Wahabbists and the inroads they are making into European Muslim immigrant populations, is deeply misguided. Yet it still carries massive currency among the neocon-infested FOX crowd.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Bardon Kaldian

    , @36 ulster
    @The Z Blog

    To WHICH Irish troubles do you refer, Z? There seem to have been so damned many of them, from time immemorial.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Reg Cæsar

  6. istevefan says:

    The culture-religion theory going back to Weber, Sombart and Voltaire postulates that different religious beliefs shape attitudes, and propel societies toward institutions that are more or less supportive of human rights. Cognitive ability had a positive impact on human rights but its effect varied depending on the country sample.

    What about how easy it was for your land to be invaded, and the propensity of people to invade your land? It seems that if you were frequently on the verge of being invaded, you had to have a more authoritarian system ready to organize the whole with human rights taking a back seat.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @istevefan

    So the Netherlands, Denmark, and Poland score low on the human rights record, being remarkably easy to invade.

    Replies: @Logan, @istevefan

    , @songbird
    @istevefan

    That's interesting. I swear that I saw something produced by the German government that suggested that Germans bowed to authority and that the reason was how historically unstable Germany was. Often invaded, before it was a unified country.

    Not that I would trust the German government...

    Replies: @Lars Porsena

    , @Almost Missouri
    @istevefan

    Sounds plausible on its face, but how do you quantify easy-to-invadiness?

    Islands? Britain seems to work this way, but then why not Japan, Ceylon, Java, New Zealand or Madagascar?

    Replies: @istevefan, @Tyrion 2

  7. • Replies: @donut
    @eah

    That can't happen here right ?

    , @Pericles
    @eah

    I think I can follow the official reasoning here. Tweeting pictures of a crime means you're anti-crime. And that means you have to go to prison.

  8. • LOL: rogue-one
    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @eah

    Funny how their signs are all in English. Funny also how if you scroll through you can see they can't even spell death.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @eah

    eah, so the Contrarian Principle that says "white face" is good, "black face" is racist.

  9. Whoops. Hit the publish button without looking. Here’s what I meant to write.

    When you think about it, sharia is all about forcing you to be free, as a devout Muslim following the edicts of the local Imam, who is probably illiterate. It makes perfect sense when you think about it and just shut up and accept it.

    In not so long, we’re going to look like Ireland during the troubles. The locals will be in revolt against their foreign masters.

  10. The Human Rights movement of the last hundred years is little more than another symptom of growing white ethnomasochism.

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
    @Roderick Spode

    Human rights is a social construct, a fragile one.

  11. Part of our problem regarding human rights is that the Christian concept of the community has been debased.

    I have become convinced that freedom of religion was, in its time, considered sufficient for ensuring communal freedom in the United States. To British settlers and early Americans, the church was the community. I don’t think anyone who knows American history can honestly argue against that point. However, in recent times this fact of American life, which was always taken for granted until only a few decades ago, has been largely eradicated.

    Thus we are left only with individual rights, which are inconsequential to an organization with a monopoly on force, e.g. the ATF and FBI in 1993 during the Waco siege.

    When Christians no longer have the right to form their own communities according to their own principles, they are rendered impotent and defenseless.

    Freedom of religion is essential in that there is ultimately no rational basis for human rights or liberty. As was made clear in the founding documents of the United States, our rights are God-given, and not subject to repeal based on sophistry or the declamations of prophet killers or would-be deicides.

    • Replies: @Samuel Skinner
    @Bill P


    As was made clear in the founding documents of the United States, our rights are God-given, and not subject to repeal based on sophistry or the declamations of prophet killers or would-be deicides.
     
    That didn't work. Freedom of religion lead to the American Civil War. Slavery was sanctioned by the Old Testament until Northerners decided it wasn't because of feelz and changed their religious beliefs and used that to justify not obeying the law. This is inevitable because people like feeling superior to others and like having excuses to hurt others.

    More then one religion CANNOT coexist in a single policy. One will always seize control of the machinery of state and rule over the others.
    , @bomag
    @Bill P


    As was made clear in the founding documents of the United States, our rights are God-given, and not subject to repeal based on sophistry or the declamations of prophet killers or would-be deicides.
     
    Seems that the right of conquest underlies human affairs; God-given seems to line up with whoever is strongest at the time.
  12. • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @eah

    Back in days of yore, say the 1960s, it was rare indeed that the gender of someone wasn’t obvious.

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Why would someone make a huge effort to go from male to female (for example) yet still want to be called “he”?

    Replies: @TTSSYF, @eah, @stillCARealist

  13. OT:
    Google Sued by Ex-Recruiter Alleging Anti-White, Asian Bias

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-01/google-sued-by-ex-recruiter-over-alleged-anti-white-asian-bias

    The Alphabet Inc. unit had “irrefutable policies, memorialized in writing and consistently implemented in practice, of systematically discriminating in favor job applicants who are Hispanic, African American, or female, and against Caucasian and Asian men,” according to the complaint filed in state court in Redwood City, California.

    Arne Wilberg, who worked at Google and its YouTube unit for about nine years both as a contractor and an employee, claims he was terminated in retaliation for complaining to human resources about the company’s hiring practices. Wilberg also alleged that late last year, management deleted emails and other digital records of diversity requirements.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    I find it hard to believe women are stupid enough to apply to Google, or any other major Silicon Valley employer, given the crappy career arcs offered them.

    Maybe they don't mind being forced out by H-1Bs after a decade because they planned to quit and have babies anyway?

    Replies: @Rod1963, @rogue-one

  14. How in tarnation was this accepted at a modern sociology journal? Is this some sort of rogue journal published by outcast sociologists?

    O.K., I see that Rindermann is kind of rogue:

    A 2007 study by Rindermann found a high correlation between the results of international student assessment studies including TIMSS, PIRLS, and PISA, and national average IQ scores.[7] The results were broadly similar to those in Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen’s book IQ and the Wealth of Nations. According to Earl B. Hunt, due to there being far more data available, Rindermann’s analysis was more reliable than those by Lynn and Vanhanen. By measuring the relationship between educational data and social well-being over time, this study also performed a causal analysis, finding that nations investing in education leads to increased well-being later on.[8]

    Some of Rindermann’s work has concentrated on the “smart fraction” theory, which states that the prosperity and performance of a society depends on the proportion of the population that is above a particular threshold of intelligence, with the threshold point being well above the general median intelligence level in most societies.[9][10][11][12]

    Rindermann’s research has been cited by people studying the relation between intelligence, education, and economic growth, such as Garett Jones.[13]

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Anonymous

    Heiner Rindermann - together with his colleague Detlev Rost - was the most important scientific defender of Thilo Sarrazin (Germany Does Away With Itself), who had risked to not only understand, but also make broad use of "The Bell Curve" to criticize unregulated mass-immigration - not least of muslims.

    - A real act of enlightenment - it was Immanuel Kant, who once asked people, to make courageous use of their understanding!

    - Steven Pinker fails in that regard in his new book, unfortunately.

  15. Christianity is the kind of religion white people would like. It didn’t create white people or the goodness we see in Western countries.

    Islam is an appropriate religion for the type of mentality that exists in the Middle East and other places.

    Get the direction of causality correct.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @Anonymous


    There is in Islam a paradox which is perhaps a permanent menace. The great creed born in the desert creates a kind of ecstasy out of the very emptiness of its own land, and even, one may say, out of the emptiness of its own theology. It affirms, with no little sublimity, something that is not merely the singleness but rather the solitude of God. There is the same extreme simplification in the solitary figure of the Prophet; and yet this isolation perpetually reacts into its own opposite. A void is made in the heart of Islam which has to be filled up again and again by a mere repetition of the revolution that founded it. There are no sacraments; the only thing that can happen is a sort of apocalypse, as unique as the end of the world; so the apocalypse can only be repeated and the world end again and again. There are no priests; and yet this equality can only breed a multitude of lawless prophets almost as numerous as priests. The very dogma that there is only one Mahomet produces an endless procession of Mahomets. Of these the mightiest in modern times were the man whose name was Ahmed, and whose more famous title was the Mahdi; and his more ferocious successor Abdullahi, who was generally known as the Khalifa. These great fanatics, or great creators of fanaticism, succeeded in making a militarism almost as famous and formidable as that of the Turkish Empire on whose frontiers it hovered, and in spreading a reign of terror such as can seldom be organised except by civilisation…
     

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @Frau Katze
    @Anonymous

    In the current setting of Islam in the West it seems to attract aggressive and/or criminal whites.

    I don’t have stats but there have been cases like this.

    I have read that in France, Muslim criminals force everyone in the prison to convert.

    Only someone with a strong tribal ethnic group (Corsica was mentioned) could resist.

    The article about the French prisons carefully avoid stats.

  16. @istevefan

    The culture-religion theory going back to Weber, Sombart and Voltaire postulates that different religious beliefs shape attitudes, and propel societies toward institutions that are more or less supportive of human rights. Cognitive ability had a positive impact on human rights but its effect varied depending on the country sample.
     
    What about how easy it was for your land to be invaded, and the propensity of people to invade your land? It seems that if you were frequently on the verge of being invaded, you had to have a more authoritarian system ready to organize the whole with human rights taking a back seat.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @songbird, @Almost Missouri

    So the Netherlands, Denmark, and Poland score low on the human rights record, being remarkably easy to invade.

    • Replies: @Logan
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Netherlands fought off the greatest power in the world for 80 years to win its independence. Later did the same with the French, the greatest power in Europe at the time.

    It wasn't easy at all to invade.

    Replies: @Coag

    , @istevefan
    @Reg Cæsar

    I probably conflated support for human rights with liberty. Looking at it from an English/American perspective, I don't think about human rights. I think of liberty. Maybe the two are related, maybe they are not.

    If I recall, Adam Smith wrote a little about England needing a much smaller standing army than other European nations because it did not have to worry about another nation easily crossing its border like what you had on the continent. So he felt England had more liberty than other Europeans nations, Switzerland excepted.

    Additionally, in the Federalist Papers I think there was a discussion about the benefits of the 13 colonies being one nation because if they were two or more separate nations, they might become more like continental Europe and require larger standing armies as competition among them for land and resources might develop. Likewise liberty would decrease under those conditions.

    I think the English believed that there was a link to small standing armies and liberty, and the need for a small standing army was dependent upon how likely your nation was to be invaded.

    Note, they had no problem with large navies since the sailors presumably would be at sea on ships and would not pose a threat to liberty like soldiers.

    You are right that the Dutch and Danes seem to be high on the human rights scale. But I don't think they have the same concept of liberty that we do.

    I am not too familiar with the Poles. It seems like a nice place, but once again do they have the same conception of liberty that we do?

    Replies: @International Jew, @gunner29

  17. Freedom of religion is essential in that there is ultimately no rational basis for human rights or liberty.

    What do you do for human rights and liberty when religious belief organically declines in your society, without any central planning to bring this about? This has happened in many developed countries already, and some social scientists attribute the disappearance to better existential conditions, like universal health insurance. (BTW, has anyone looked into the effect of the Affordable Care Act, which the Republicans can’t seem to abolish, on the nation’s religiosity?)

    The trend of indifference to religion even seems to have affected the popularity of cults. I can remember a lot of media coverage back in the 1970’s about the growth and visibility of cults, from Scientology to Hare Krishna to the Unification Church to Jim Jones’s People’s Temple. I suppose many of these cults still survive, but we don’t hear anywhere near as much about them these days, much less about newer ones.

    • Replies: @Joe, Averaged
    @advancedatheist

    What do you mean? The SJW/cathedral is a cult.

    , @Samuel Skinner
    @advancedatheist


    What do you do for human rights and liberty when religious belief organically declines in your society, without any central planning to bring this about?
     
    All the 'organic declines' involve society taking a turn to the left. The obvious answer is leftism is toxic and slowly destroys societies and so needs to be combated and stopped.
  18. Without freedom of religion, freedom of association, and freedom of speech, we have essentially no freedoms to speak of in real terms. Like Obama said, “Words, just words.”

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Hubbub

    Hub, a few years ago, a member of the Canadian Human Rights commission said that "Free Speech " is an American concept, that doesn't apply in Canada. The nation directly to our north has different laws concerning freedom of speech and they can be quite restrictive. I believe Mark Steyn was charged in Canada with hate speech against Muslims for saying something that is acceptable, under the law, in the USA.

    Replies: @dearieme

  19. There should be some Muslim-Homo Paradox of Human Rights.

    On these indices, the license of Homos to stomp all over traditional religious expression leads to high scores of human rights and freedom, however some zenith of Homo hegemony is strongly correlated with mass immigration of Muslims, after which the Homo license is greatly diminished and then “poof[ter]” – there goes your human rights and freedom index.

  20. @istevefan

    The culture-religion theory going back to Weber, Sombart and Voltaire postulates that different religious beliefs shape attitudes, and propel societies toward institutions that are more or less supportive of human rights. Cognitive ability had a positive impact on human rights but its effect varied depending on the country sample.
     
    What about how easy it was for your land to be invaded, and the propensity of people to invade your land? It seems that if you were frequently on the verge of being invaded, you had to have a more authoritarian system ready to organize the whole with human rights taking a back seat.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @songbird, @Almost Missouri

    That’s interesting. I swear that I saw something produced by the German government that suggested that Germans bowed to authority and that the reason was how historically unstable Germany was. Often invaded, before it was a unified country.

    Not that I would trust the German government…

    • Replies: @Lars Porsena
    @songbird

    Before it was unified it was the Holy Roman Empire for a thousand years. Who invaded that? Napoleon was the only one since Charlemagne. Germany has endured more foreign occupation since unification than before.

    Replies: @dearieme

  21. @istevefan

    The culture-religion theory going back to Weber, Sombart and Voltaire postulates that different religious beliefs shape attitudes, and propel societies toward institutions that are more or less supportive of human rights. Cognitive ability had a positive impact on human rights but its effect varied depending on the country sample.
     
    What about how easy it was for your land to be invaded, and the propensity of people to invade your land? It seems that if you were frequently on the verge of being invaded, you had to have a more authoritarian system ready to organize the whole with human rights taking a back seat.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @songbird, @Almost Missouri

    Sounds plausible on its face, but how do you quantify easy-to-invadiness?

    Islands? Britain seems to work this way, but then why not Japan, Ceylon, Java, New Zealand or Madagascar?

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @Almost Missouri

    Like I explained in another comment, I was basing that on the discussions of liberty that I had read from Adam Smith and others who equated the need for a smaller standing army to having more liberty.

    Thinking about it, it probably is highly specific to England and doesn't seem to explain other nations in other parts of the world.

    As far as an example of an easy-to-invade place I suggest Russia. She has those great plains which fierce neighbors have used as a highway to invade, plunder and pillage several times. The most devastating land battle in history took place there. So it makes sense that the Russians had to develop a strong central authority, liberty and rights be damned, to ensure they could defend themselves.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ConservaWhig

    , @Tyrion 2
    @Almost Missouri

    The Netherlands developed many of the most important components of what we might call liberty while being either continually invaded or under occupation for centuries.

  22. @Pseudonymic Handle
    OT:
    Google Sued by Ex-Recruiter Alleging Anti-White, Asian Bias

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-01/google-sued-by-ex-recruiter-over-alleged-anti-white-asian-bias

    The Alphabet Inc. unit had “irrefutable policies, memorialized in writing and consistently implemented in practice, of systematically discriminating in favor job applicants who are Hispanic, African American, or female, and against Caucasian and Asian men,” according to the complaint filed in state court in Redwood City, California.

    Arne Wilberg, who worked at Google and its YouTube unit for about nine years both as a contractor and an employee, claims he was terminated in retaliation for complaining to human resources about the company’s hiring practices. Wilberg also alleged that late last year, management deleted emails and other digital records of diversity requirements.
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I find it hard to believe women are stupid enough to apply to Google, or any other major Silicon Valley employer, given the crappy career arcs offered them.

    Maybe they don’t mind being forced out by H-1Bs after a decade because they planned to quit and have babies anyway?

    • Replies: @Rod1963
    @Reg Cæsar

    The average drone at Google only works there for little over a year before quitting. When you factor in the cost of living where Google is situated, you realize a six figure income gets you squat for a decent place to live and you're forced to commute as well. That may explain why people don't stay.

    The sad thing is these people could make the same amount working for the state of CA or most cities and have better working conditions and benefits.

    Replies: @Doug, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar

    , @rogue-one
    @Reg Cæsar

    1. Google & Youtube have attained a monopoly status. You don't need to work 12 hours a day anymore. Some of my friends at google have had periods of several months where they basically did nothing.

    2. Women & minorities are a protected class. They won't be fired for H1Bs. Rather, they would some sort of part-time gig at Google/Youtube. On the other hand, white guys (& perhaps asians too) are disposable.

    3. This illustrates the core dilemma of our times. Young men, often white or asian, build valuable things like companies. However, once these companies are functioning well, politically savvy "victimhood" groups like women and minorities take over a major portion of the company and its money pushing out the the kinds of people who actually built the thing. I have no doubt that if things go bad, these political opportunists would bail rather than try & fix things.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Curtis Mouser I, @Reg Cæsar

  23. @Anonymous
    Christianity is the kind of religion white people would like. It didn’t create white people or the goodness we see in Western countries.

    Islam is an appropriate religion for the type of mentality that exists in the Middle East and other places.

    Get the direction of causality correct.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Frau Katze

    There is in Islam a paradox which is perhaps a permanent menace. The great creed born in the desert creates a kind of ecstasy out of the very emptiness of its own land, and even, one may say, out of the emptiness of its own theology. It affirms, with no little sublimity, something that is not merely the singleness but rather the solitude of God. There is the same extreme simplification in the solitary figure of the Prophet; and yet this isolation perpetually reacts into its own opposite. A void is made in the heart of Islam which has to be filled up again and again by a mere repetition of the revolution that founded it. There are no sacraments; the only thing that can happen is a sort of apocalypse, as unique as the end of the world; so the apocalypse can only be repeated and the world end again and again. There are no priests; and yet this equality can only breed a multitude of lawless prophets almost as numerous as priests. The very dogma that there is only one Mahomet produces an endless procession of Mahomets. Of these the mightiest in modern times were the man whose name was Ahmed, and whose more famous title was the Mahdi; and his more ferocious successor Abdullahi, who was generally known as the Khalifa. These great fanatics, or great creators of fanaticism, succeeded in making a militarism almost as famous and formidable as that of the Turkish Empire on whose frontiers it hovered, and in spreading a reign of terror such as can seldom be organised except by civilisation…

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Alec Leamas

    Who are you quoting? Sounds interesting.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  24. In Islam is Qur’an sacred Writ:
    You are free to believe all of it.
    And are free to deny,
    Choosing freely to die.
    So you’re totally free to submit.

  25. @Reg Cæsar
    @istevefan

    So the Netherlands, Denmark, and Poland score low on the human rights record, being remarkably easy to invade.

    Replies: @Logan, @istevefan

    The Netherlands fought off the greatest power in the world for 80 years to win its independence. Later did the same with the French, the greatest power in Europe at the time.

    It wasn’t easy at all to invade.

    • Replies: @Coag
    @Logan

    Those days are long gone. The Islamification of the Netherlands is coming along quite well. The Dutch are really taking their 80 year war era motto to heart these days, “Better the Turk than the Pope”.

  26. @The Z Blog
    When you think about about, sharia is all about forcing you to be free, as a devout Muslim following the edicts of the local Imam, who is probably illiterate. It makes perfect sense when you think about and just shut up.

    In not so long, we're going to loom like Ireland during the troubles. The locals will be in revolt against their foreign masters.

    Replies: @Louis Renault, @nebulafox, @36 ulster

    a devout Muslim following the edicts of the local Imam, who is probably illiterate.

    There are plenty of educated Muslims, that includes many pietist, scripture obsessed minority whose view of ijima – consensus – is that they are right and they are willing to kill and die enforcing that view on others.

    • Replies: @Rod1963
    @Louis Renault

    Quite so. More than a few jihadis who went to Iraq and later Syria were educated men with college degrees from Europe.

    Maj. Hassan comes to mind here in the U.S. as a example of highly educated Muslim who became a soldier for allah.

    We should never mistake that Islam's call to be a shaheed only applies to the mindless serf. It's in all their principal texts.

  27. Canada must be freer than the US. Nirvana turned down the name Fecal Matter, but this Montreal fashion team uses it now:

    https://www.vogue.com/article/fecal-matter-instagram-duo-to-follow

  28. OT
    Shooting armed carjacker is same as school shooting:

    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,”

    Concealed-carry permit holder flips the script, shoots and kills alleged carjacker

    A Wisconsin man, using a gun licensed under a concealed-carry permit, shot and killed an alleged carjacker in his company’s parking lot, a city official said.

    The unidentified employee, 24, had just arrived for work at Milwaukee Machine Tool Corp., shortly before 6 a.m. Monday when a man named Carlos Martin, 21, allegedly attempted to carjack him with a gun, Milwaukee city alderman Cavalier Johnson told ABC News.

    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,” he said.

    The Milwaukee Medical Examiner did not immediately respond to ABC News’ requests for results of Martin’s autopsy.

    Police said the shooter is cooperating with their investigation, after which the Milwaukee District Attorney’s office will review the case and decide whether to bring any charges.

    Alternate story title: “World’s Worst GTA player”

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    The unidentified employee, 24, had just arrived for work at Milwaukee Machine Tool Corp., shortly before 6 a.m. Monday when a man named Carlos Martin, 21, allegedly attempted to carjack him with a gun, Milwaukee city alderman Cavalier Johnson told ABC News.
     
    Hey, that carjacker was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,” he said.
     
    That sentence was about as grammatically coherent as I would expect from an Milwaukee Alderman named "Cavalier Johnson".
    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Hip, armed car jackings have become the go to crime for armed thugs in Chicago and Cleveland. Last week a student leaving St. Ignatius HS in Cleveland, a Jesuit prep school, was car jacked in the school's fenced parking lot after lacrosse try outs. The car was then listed for sale on Craig's List. Chicago has an epidemic of jackings. Nothing minor about being confronted by a armed hood who wants your vehicle. A few years ago, in Texas I believe, a thug shot and killed a car owner, in front of the man's wife and 10 year old daughter, because the man's car had stick shift and the thug couldn't drive away.

    , @EdwardM
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,”
     
    Brilliant! So, since we know nothing about the perp (at least from the article; perhaps the esteemed Alderman knows something that we don't), what he means by "people who shouldn't have guns" who therefore "don't have them in the first place" is people who will eventually use their guns in a crime. That used to be called a tautology, or perhaps just a non sequitur.

    Still, a pretty fair treatment of the case, including a useful and accurate quote from the world of concealed carry ("While people who have concealed-carry permits are trained to deal with the consequences of taking a life, that’s never the intent, according to concealed-carry permit trainer and gun expert Dean Hazen of Urbana, Illinois.'")

    Though it would have been helpful if they got the police on record to at least confirm that in fact the alleged carjacker's gun was found at the scene. I suppose if it wasn't, then the story would have been quite different given that the alleged perp was named Carlos.
  29. OT: Hey! This is library!

    Dear Yan Shen,

    This is for you.

    “And we can be heroes, just for one day…”
    – David Bowie

    Love Always,

    Ben Kenobi

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4057307/richmond-kick-librarian/

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @BenKenobi

    wwebd said: I have very few heroes.

    Among those whose names are in the history books, maybe Admiral Halsey and General Truscott, maybe Vice President Agnew, definitely Admiral Spruance and Solanus Casey, maybe (although he was a little bit off) Antonin Scalia. Well, and James Woods and Mike Savage, although they are both undereducated, through no fault of their own.

    That being said, "Hey, This is Library!" dude is one of my heroes.

    If you disagree, f*** off, "This is Library!"

    May God bless him forever.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

  30. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    How do you disentangle being Christian from being white? Given that whiteness and Christian-ness are highly correlated with one another, I wonder if they looked at all the non-white but Christian countries separately.

    Also, you wonder to what extent Christianity is a religion that is naturally suited to the European genetic personality type (esp Scandinavian). Meaning: universalist, cucky, humanitarian and given to pathological altruism and Stockholm syndrome.

    Would Europeans have invented “Christianity” if it hadn’t arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?

    • Agree: EdwardM
    • Replies: @Robert Hume
    @Anon


    How do you disentangle being Christian from being white? Given that whiteness and Christian-ness are highly correlated with one another, I wonder if they looked at all the non-white but Christian countries separately.
     
    Good point. Think of the great art and music associated with Christianity in white countries. For example Michelangelo and Bach. Is there anything like that in nonwhite Christian countries?

    Replies: @Foreign Expert

    , @Tyrion 2
    @Anon


    Would Europeans have invented “Christianity” if it hadn’t arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?
     
    It is an interesting question: How genes and culture co-evolve. Nonetheless, this particular instance seems pretty easy to answer.

    Scandi-heaven pre-Christianity - you get there by dying in battle, once there you battle all day and debauche yourself all night.

    Scandi-heaven post-Christianity - you get there by doing good deeds or even just thinking good thoughts. Once there you sit on fluffy clouds and sing soft songs in harmony with angels for eternity.

    , @Louis Renault
    @Anon


    Would Europeans have invented “Christianity” if it hadn’t arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?
     
    Are you still waiting for Google and Alexa to tell you who Jesus Christ is? Perhaps Cardianal Sarah can explain it to you.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sarah
    , @Travis
    @Anon

    interesting question...hard to separate the history of white people from Christianity...The church also impacted the the genes of whites by banning cousin marriages to destroy the clans which effected white culture. If the church had allowed cousin marriages to continue and not eliminated the clans white people today may well have been less altruistic.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

  31. istevefan says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @istevefan

    So the Netherlands, Denmark, and Poland score low on the human rights record, being remarkably easy to invade.

    Replies: @Logan, @istevefan

    I probably conflated support for human rights with liberty. Looking at it from an English/American perspective, I don’t think about human rights. I think of liberty. Maybe the two are related, maybe they are not.

    If I recall, Adam Smith wrote a little about England needing a much smaller standing army than other European nations because it did not have to worry about another nation easily crossing its border like what you had on the continent. So he felt England had more liberty than other Europeans nations, Switzerland excepted.

    Additionally, in the Federalist Papers I think there was a discussion about the benefits of the 13 colonies being one nation because if they were two or more separate nations, they might become more like continental Europe and require larger standing armies as competition among them for land and resources might develop. Likewise liberty would decrease under those conditions.

    I think the English believed that there was a link to small standing armies and liberty, and the need for a small standing army was dependent upon how likely your nation was to be invaded.

    Note, they had no problem with large navies since the sailors presumably would be at sea on ships and would not pose a threat to liberty like soldiers.

    You are right that the Dutch and Danes seem to be high on the human rights scale. But I don’t think they have the same concept of liberty that we do.

    I am not too familiar with the Poles. It seems like a nice place, but once again do they have the same conception of liberty that we do?

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @istevefan


    I think the English believed that there was a link to small standing armies and liberty
     
    That's what was behind the Romans' rule against any army crossing to south of the Rubicon. Unfortunately, the Praetorian Guard was all it took to turn Rome into a miliitary dictatorship, by the time of the first emperors.
    , @gunner29
    @istevefan


    I am not too familiar with the Poles. It seems like a nice place, but once again do they have the same conception of liberty that we do?
     
    They have every bit of the same conception of liberty as we do. Especially in the last 100 years, since the germans, russians, and austrians had to leave Poland after WW1. Poland disappeared in 1795, it was part of the surrounding empires. I was watching a TV program about Marie Curie and how she and her family resisted the occupying power; couldn't speak Polish or know about Polish history. They did.

    Solidarity with Lech Welesa really got rolling about '81, and was the first crack in the Iron Curtain. Took another 8 years for the whole thing to come crashing down....

    The location of Poland was probably about the worst place to form a country. Crazy russians on one side, crazy krauts on the other, and crazy autrians to the south. Terrible neighborhood.

    No natural barriers, just a bunch of rivers to cross. Drive around the upper midwest to get an idea of how easy it was to invade and how impossible to defend...
  32. This seems kinda bogus unless you exclude the West and MENA, doesn’t it? You want a group of countries where your a priori expectations are the same, more or less.

    For example, it’d be great they’d only looked at countries in sub-Saharan Africa. Lots of Muslims, lots of Christians, varying proportions, not totally obvious what the data will show.

    Asia is not a good candidate because it’s dominated by sui generis giants like India, China and Japan.

  33. istevefan says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @istevefan

    Sounds plausible on its face, but how do you quantify easy-to-invadiness?

    Islands? Britain seems to work this way, but then why not Japan, Ceylon, Java, New Zealand or Madagascar?

    Replies: @istevefan, @Tyrion 2

    Like I explained in another comment, I was basing that on the discussions of liberty that I had read from Adam Smith and others who equated the need for a smaller standing army to having more liberty.

    Thinking about it, it probably is highly specific to England and doesn’t seem to explain other nations in other parts of the world.

    As far as an example of an easy-to-invade place I suggest Russia. She has those great plains which fierce neighbors have used as a highway to invade, plunder and pillage several times. The most devastating land battle in history took place there. So it makes sense that the Russians had to develop a strong central authority, liberty and rights be damned, to ensure they could defend themselves.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @istevefan

    Another geo-determinative view is that liberty and prosperity come from good interior navigation. I.e., the US has (had?) relatively easy prosperity and light central authority because the interior river/canal system made moving commodities and people relatively cheap and easy. The Mississippi is probably the world's largest navigable interior waterway, which also happens to intersect some of the world's most productive farmland. And it is now supplemented by rail and superhighways.

    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.

    Britain had extensive canals and everywhere is close to the coast, so water navigation is natural and easy, hence it politically resembles America (leaving aside Anglo heritage). Ditto Netherlands and Denmark. Germany and Poland are sort of in between, Germany more US-like, Poland more Russia-like. Greece and Italy are US/Britain-like. Spain in between. Arabia, China, Africa, India, Mexico more Russia-like. Argentina, Uruguay more US-like. Etc.

    Outliers: Japan looks like Britain but acted like Russia, but then the Japanese are always outliers (they also got remarkable prosperity out of relatively poor land). Brazil looks like it should be a US clone with the Amazon as their Mississippi, but Brazil's productive land is really along the coast or in the south, so the north-lying Amazon is really more of a vast outback than a pre-made trading highway, hence Brazil is a little more Russia-like than it "should" be. Canada looks like Russia, but most of the population live along the St. Lawrence or Great Lakes (or Pacific), so maps deceive us. Australia looks like a hot Russia but was settled by Brits, sooo...

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Samuel Skinner, @ConservaWhig, @Verymuchalive

    , @ConservaWhig
    @istevefan

    My Russian History professor presented your ideas about Russia as Richard Pipes' hypothesis.

  34. @Reg Cæsar
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    I find it hard to believe women are stupid enough to apply to Google, or any other major Silicon Valley employer, given the crappy career arcs offered them.

    Maybe they don't mind being forced out by H-1Bs after a decade because they planned to quit and have babies anyway?

    Replies: @Rod1963, @rogue-one

    The average drone at Google only works there for little over a year before quitting. When you factor in the cost of living where Google is situated, you realize a six figure income gets you squat for a decent place to live and you’re forced to commute as well. That may explain why people don’t stay.

    The sad thing is these people could make the same amount working for the state of CA or most cities and have better working conditions and benefits.

    • Replies: @Doug
    @Rod1963

    > The average drone at Google only works there for little over a year before quitting.

    This isn't because Google's a terrible place to work. It's because having Google on your resume instantly increases your market value and allows you to move into a higher-paying more senior role at another firm. You'll find similar turnover rates at Goldman Sachs, brand-name hedge funds, or white-shoe BIGLAW firms.

    Much like Goldman, a stint at Google is an excellent stepping stone to move into highest echelons of the industry. The average engineer who lands a Google job out of school ends up making $300k+ at age 30. And that's just not the Bay Area. A lot of them are living in Seattle, LA, Austin or some other mid-level cost of living location.

    Even adjusting for cost of living, people with Google on their resume almost certainly have higher incomes than 99% of Americans. For all its fault Google is still a meal-ticket to the inner circle of the elite.

    , @Alden
    @Rod1963

    Do they quit or are they encouraged to quit or outright fired? It’s an old, old strategy. Hire peopl, promise raises and promotions if they excel and then get rid of them right before the promised raise.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Rod1963


    The sad thing is these people could make the same amount working for the state of CA or most cities and have better working conditions and benefits
     
    Cities like Bell?

    http://gawker.com/5644817/bell-california-americas-most-corrupt-town
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/21/california.bell.arrests/index.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Bell_scandal
    http://www.latimes.com/local/bell/la-me-bell-scandal-a-times-investigation-20160211-storygallery.html
  35. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @BenKenobi
    OT: Hey! This is library!

    Dear Yan Shen,

    This is for you.

    "And we can be heroes, just for one day..."
    - David Bowie

    Love Always,

    Ben Kenobi

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4057307/richmond-kick-librarian/

    Replies: @anonymous

    wwebd said: I have very few heroes.

    Among those whose names are in the history books, maybe Admiral Halsey and General Truscott, maybe Vice President Agnew, definitely Admiral Spruance and Solanus Casey, maybe (although he was a little bit off) Antonin Scalia. Well, and James Woods and Mike Savage, although they are both undereducated, through no fault of their own.

    That being said, “Hey, This is Library!” dude is one of my heroes.

    If you disagree, f*** off, “This is Library!”

    May God bless him forever.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @anonymous

    In this case the heroic Asian ĂĽbermensch kicked the old lady baizuo for wanting to seed his nice homogenous community with poor people.

    You see, now that the heroic Chinese people have ethnically cleansed Richmond there is no longer need for any further change.

    Madness? THIS IS RICHMOND!!

    Replies: @Twinkie

  36. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    eah wrote:

    Next up, prison time for frustrating the sexual urges of Muslim grooming gangs.

    This poor Muslim man was having a sexual emergency! How dare you pry him off your daughter like that. Shame on you, you Islamophobic Nazi!

    ==================
    Fgyyf wrote:

    Don’t tell Steven Pinker that who spends much of the last chapter of Enlightenment Now attacking Christianity

    He did? What did he say?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Anon

    In the early 1970s a Berkeley Ca cop drove past a park and heard a woman screaming. He found her and a black rapist on top of her. The rapist refused to get off her. So the cop hauled him off and smashed him around a bit.

    The black and Jewish activists forced the Berkeley chief of police to apologize for the cop hauling him off her and beating him up

    The evilness of liberals knows no bounds.

  37. Something tells me if all the Christians in the study converted to Islam, and all the Muslims in the study converted to Christianity, these correlations would persist in place, rather than switch to follow the new nominal religions.

    Just sayin’, I think there’s a big chicken or egg question here (though I think there are obvious, relevant theological differences).

    Don’t tell Steven Pinker that who spends much of the last chapter of Enlightenment Now attacking Christianity

    Criticizing Christianity is a very safe, cozy, boring, lazy, conformist endeavor. Attacking Judaism or Islam is dangerous, bold, edgy, and non-conformist.

    So Pinker’s saying something about himself.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Svigor

    Criticizing Christianity is old old hat. Not an iota of edginess there.

  38. Cognitive ability had a positive impact on human rights but its effect varied depending on the country sample. More important was religion, both in cross-sectional and longitudinal models.

    Somebody tell me if I’m right or wrong in my interpretation of the above statement.

    My interpretation of the statement is this: IQ and human rights correlate, but the religion-human rights correlation is higher.

    Is this correct?

  39. @Louis Renault
    @The Z Blog


    a devout Muslim following the edicts of the local Imam, who is probably illiterate.
     
    There are plenty of educated Muslims, that includes many pietist, scripture obsessed minority whose view of ijima - consensus - is that they are right and they are willing to kill and die enforcing that view on others.

    Replies: @Rod1963

    Quite so. More than a few jihadis who went to Iraq and later Syria were educated men with college degrees from Europe.

    Maj. Hassan comes to mind here in the U.S. as a example of highly educated Muslim who became a soldier for allah.

    We should never mistake that Islam’s call to be a shaheed only applies to the mindless serf. It’s in all their principal texts.

  40. The new religion of PC probably correlates even more negatively with human rights than Islam does.

  41. @advancedatheist

    Freedom of religion is essential in that there is ultimately no rational basis for human rights or liberty.
     
    What do you do for human rights and liberty when religious belief organically declines in your society, without any central planning to bring this about? This has happened in many developed countries already, and some social scientists attribute the disappearance to better existential conditions, like universal health insurance. (BTW, has anyone looked into the effect of the Affordable Care Act, which the Republicans can't seem to abolish, on the nation's religiosity?)

    The trend of indifference to religion even seems to have affected the popularity of cults. I can remember a lot of media coverage back in the 1970's about the growth and visibility of cults, from Scientology to Hare Krishna to the Unification Church to Jim Jones's People's Temple. I suppose many of these cults still survive, but we don't hear anywhere near as much about them these days, much less about newer ones.

    Replies: @Joe, Averaged, @Samuel Skinner

    What do you mean? The SJW/cathedral is a cult.

  42. @anonymous
    @BenKenobi

    wwebd said: I have very few heroes.

    Among those whose names are in the history books, maybe Admiral Halsey and General Truscott, maybe Vice President Agnew, definitely Admiral Spruance and Solanus Casey, maybe (although he was a little bit off) Antonin Scalia. Well, and James Woods and Mike Savage, although they are both undereducated, through no fault of their own.

    That being said, "Hey, This is Library!" dude is one of my heroes.

    If you disagree, f*** off, "This is Library!"

    May God bless him forever.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    In this case the heroic Asian ĂĽbermensch kicked the old lady baizuo for wanting to seed his nice homogenous community with poor people.

    You see, now that the heroic Chinese people have ethnically cleansed Richmond there is no longer need for any further change.

    Madness? THIS IS RICHMOND!!

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @BenKenobi

    I've always criticized this Yan Shen character for over-using that library clip. But it's just as stupid to hold up this video as an example of how East Asians behave in general.

  43. @Reg Cæsar
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    I find it hard to believe women are stupid enough to apply to Google, or any other major Silicon Valley employer, given the crappy career arcs offered them.

    Maybe they don't mind being forced out by H-1Bs after a decade because they planned to quit and have babies anyway?

    Replies: @Rod1963, @rogue-one

    1. Google & Youtube have attained a monopoly status. You don’t need to work 12 hours a day anymore. Some of my friends at google have had periods of several months where they basically did nothing.

    2. Women & minorities are a protected class. They won’t be fired for H1Bs. Rather, they would some sort of part-time gig at Google/Youtube. On the other hand, white guys (& perhaps asians too) are disposable.

    3. This illustrates the core dilemma of our times. Young men, often white or asian, build valuable things like companies. However, once these companies are functioning well, politically savvy “victimhood” groups like women and minorities take over a major portion of the company and its money pushing out the the kinds of people who actually built the thing. I have no doubt that if things go bad, these political opportunists would bail rather than try & fix things.

    • Replies: @Macumazahn
    @rogue-one

    Your #3 is called "convergence".

    , @Curtis Mouser I
    @rogue-one

    3 The sooner White beta males realize society is structured against them & give up, the better. Civilizational collapse would ensue, increasing our value.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @rogue-one


    Some of my friends at google have had periods of several months where they basically did nothing
     
    Wally lives!

    http://lazyway.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341dc0af53ef014e86d85a6b970d-pi

    A friend who spent a year teaching in Japan says that nothing really gets done in the last third or so of those twelve-hour shifts. Staying late is just virtue-signalling, Japan-style.
  44. Yep.

    How many white Britons have been summarily slung into jail recently – some for periods of *years* – for writing offensive words about ‘minorities’ on Twitter?

    What really gets on my wick is hearing the BBC regular pompous pontifications about ‘human rights abuses’ in China.

  45. @Rod1963
    @Reg Cæsar

    The average drone at Google only works there for little over a year before quitting. When you factor in the cost of living where Google is situated, you realize a six figure income gets you squat for a decent place to live and you're forced to commute as well. That may explain why people don't stay.

    The sad thing is these people could make the same amount working for the state of CA or most cities and have better working conditions and benefits.

    Replies: @Doug, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar

    > The average drone at Google only works there for little over a year before quitting.

    This isn’t because Google’s a terrible place to work. It’s because having Google on your resume instantly increases your market value and allows you to move into a higher-paying more senior role at another firm. You’ll find similar turnover rates at Goldman Sachs, brand-name hedge funds, or white-shoe BIGLAW firms.

    Much like Goldman, a stint at Google is an excellent stepping stone to move into highest echelons of the industry. The average engineer who lands a Google job out of school ends up making $300k+ at age 30. And that’s just not the Bay Area. A lot of them are living in Seattle, LA, Austin or some other mid-level cost of living location.

    Even adjusting for cost of living, people with Google on their resume almost certainly have higher incomes than 99% of Americans. For all its fault Google is still a meal-ticket to the inner circle of the elite.

  46. > the only two human rights that matter these days are freedom of Muslims in Muslim countries to move to your country

    Even on this metric the studies finding still holds. Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar definitely ain’t taking any Syrian refugees.

  47. @The Z Blog
    When you think about about, sharia is all about forcing you to be free, as a devout Muslim following the edicts of the local Imam, who is probably illiterate. It makes perfect sense when you think about and just shut up.

    In not so long, we're going to loom like Ireland during the troubles. The locals will be in revolt against their foreign masters.

    Replies: @Louis Renault, @nebulafox, @36 ulster

    One of the interesting differences between Sunni and Shi’a Islam, from my limited understanding, is that the former is a lot more decentralized. Shi’a Islam, on the other hand, has a very organized, hierarchial structure of mullahs and imams who are the only ones authorized to give fatwas-and becoming one takes decades of training, not too dissimilar from how entering the hierarchy of the Catholic Church would have been many centuries ago.

    The overwhelming majority of terrorists attacking the West are Sunnis. Granted, part of that is simply numerics, but even so, the very anti-Western sort of Qutbism seems to really be rooted in a specifically Sunni form of literalist, radical Islam-it is in Sunni Islam that a figure like, say, Zarqawi, can find prominence more easily. In Shi’a Islam, the formal strictures of the religion would operate against him. Shi’a terrorist attacks are invariably almost always carried out within the Middle East for sectarian purposes as opposed to attacking the West. Even when the Persians launch covert operations in the West, it is almost always to assassinate specific Middle Eastern figures that they don’t like for political reasons (say, the Saudi ambassador to the US or certain Kurdish guerrilla leaders) rather than to attack random European or American civilians out of a high-flung mix of jihad fervor and nihilism.

    This isn’t to downplay the deep hostility that the mullahs (and the Basij Militia, Quds, et all) have toward to the West writ large and to the US and Israel in particular, but the idea that Iran is the major terrorist threat that we face, as opposed to the Wahabbists and the inroads they are making into European Muslim immigrant populations, is deeply misguided. Yet it still carries massive currency among the neocon-infested FOX crowd.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @nebulafox

    Shiism isn’t as hierarchical as you think. There’s no single head like the Catholic Pope. No single Ayatollah is in charge.

    Shiites pick an Ayatollah to support. Almost all Islamic or quasi Islamic splinter groups splintered from Shiism.

    With the Sunnis, the studying on interpretation closed centuries ago with the four schools. End of story.

    Shiism could theoretically come up with new interpretations.

    Theoretically.

    Replies: @Nico

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @nebulafox


    One of the interesting differences between Sunni and Shi’a Islam, from my limited understanding, is that the former is a lot more decentralized. Shi’a Islam, on the other hand, has a very organized, hierarchial structure of mullahs and imams who are the only ones authorized to give fatwas-and becoming one takes decades of training, not too dissimilar from how entering the hierarchy of the Catholic Church would have been many centuries ago.
     
    You got that right. Some Bahais have observed this, too: http://bahaiforums.com/interfaith/2708-shiite-islam-catholic-christianity.html

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  48. @BenKenobi
    @anonymous

    In this case the heroic Asian ĂĽbermensch kicked the old lady baizuo for wanting to seed his nice homogenous community with poor people.

    You see, now that the heroic Chinese people have ethnically cleansed Richmond there is no longer need for any further change.

    Madness? THIS IS RICHMOND!!

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I’ve always criticized this Yan Shen character for over-using that library clip. But it’s just as stupid to hold up this video as an example of how East Asians behave in general.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  49. @Rod1963
    @Reg Cæsar

    The average drone at Google only works there for little over a year before quitting. When you factor in the cost of living where Google is situated, you realize a six figure income gets you squat for a decent place to live and you're forced to commute as well. That may explain why people don't stay.

    The sad thing is these people could make the same amount working for the state of CA or most cities and have better working conditions and benefits.

    Replies: @Doug, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar

    Do they quit or are they encouraged to quit or outright fired? It’s an old, old strategy. Hire peopl, promise raises and promotions if they excel and then get rid of them right before the promised raise.

  50. @Anon
    eah wrote:


    Next up, prison time for frustrating the sexual urges of Muslim grooming gangs.

     

    This poor Muslim man was having a sexual emergency! How dare you pry him off your daughter like that. Shame on you, you Islamophobic Nazi!

    ==================
    Fgyyf wrote:


    Don’t tell Steven Pinker that who spends much of the last chapter of Enlightenment Now attacking Christianity

     

    He did? What did he say?

    Replies: @Alden

    In the early 1970s a Berkeley Ca cop drove past a park and heard a woman screaming. He found her and a black rapist on top of her. The rapist refused to get off her. So the cop hauled him off and smashed him around a bit.

    The black and Jewish activists forced the Berkeley chief of police to apologize for the cop hauling him off her and beating him up

    The evilness of liberals knows no bounds.

  51. Islam is, quite simply, incompatible with modern society.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @L Woods
    @Macumazahn

    I can't think of a more succinct endorsement of the Prophet's followers.

  52. @rogue-one
    @Reg Cæsar

    1. Google & Youtube have attained a monopoly status. You don't need to work 12 hours a day anymore. Some of my friends at google have had periods of several months where they basically did nothing.

    2. Women & minorities are a protected class. They won't be fired for H1Bs. Rather, they would some sort of part-time gig at Google/Youtube. On the other hand, white guys (& perhaps asians too) are disposable.

    3. This illustrates the core dilemma of our times. Young men, often white or asian, build valuable things like companies. However, once these companies are functioning well, politically savvy "victimhood" groups like women and minorities take over a major portion of the company and its money pushing out the the kinds of people who actually built the thing. I have no doubt that if things go bad, these political opportunists would bail rather than try & fix things.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Curtis Mouser I, @Reg Cæsar

    Your #3 is called “convergence”.

  53. @Anon
    How do you disentangle being Christian from being white? Given that whiteness and Christian-ness are highly correlated with one another, I wonder if they looked at all the non-white but Christian countries separately.

    Also, you wonder to what extent Christianity is a religion that is naturally suited to the European genetic personality type (esp Scandinavian). Meaning: universalist, cucky, humanitarian and given to pathological altruism and Stockholm syndrome.

    Would Europeans have invented "Christianity" if it hadn't arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?

    Replies: @Robert Hume, @Tyrion 2, @Louis Renault, @Travis

    How do you disentangle being Christian from being white? Given that whiteness and Christian-ness are highly correlated with one another, I wonder if they looked at all the non-white but Christian countries separately.

    Good point. Think of the great art and music associated with Christianity in white countries. For example Michelangelo and Bach. Is there anything like that in nonwhite Christian countries?

    • Replies: @Foreign Expert
    @Robert Hume

    Japanese come pretty close.

  54. James Damore attacked by Feminists:

  55. @Anon
    West is like parents who neglect their own kids to adopt more kids and then neglect the adopted kids to adopt yet more kids and then neglect them to adopt more kids..

    A civilization addicted to the cult of newness and novelty. It has no attention span, no memory, no nothing but the thrill of getting more new stuff.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Jake

    Absolutely.

    There is a famous lady who epitomises this. Hint, she has been diagnosed with BPD and works for the UNHCR.

    To elucidate on her kids:

    1. Adopted her first child, a boy, from Cambodia in order to stop her self-harm.

    2. Adopted a girl from Ethiopia after visiting the country for the first time and deciding she wanted one.

    3. Had a baby herself who supposedly decided that she was actually a boy at the age of 4. In exactly the same way that some crazy vegetarian lady’s cat ‘decided’ that it was a vegetarian too. LGBT – check!

    4. Got bored again, so ordered in a Vietnamese boy.

    5. Had twins! I assume a purposeful product of IVF and quite a novelty for a woman used to collecting just one of each type.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  56. @eah
    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/969367486482219008

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Buffalo Joe

    Funny how their signs are all in English. Funny also how if you scroll through you can see they can’t even spell death.

  57. @Almost Missouri
    @istevefan

    Sounds plausible on its face, but how do you quantify easy-to-invadiness?

    Islands? Britain seems to work this way, but then why not Japan, Ceylon, Java, New Zealand or Madagascar?

    Replies: @istevefan, @Tyrion 2

    The Netherlands developed many of the most important components of what we might call liberty while being either continually invaded or under occupation for centuries.

  58. @Anon
    How do you disentangle being Christian from being white? Given that whiteness and Christian-ness are highly correlated with one another, I wonder if they looked at all the non-white but Christian countries separately.

    Also, you wonder to what extent Christianity is a religion that is naturally suited to the European genetic personality type (esp Scandinavian). Meaning: universalist, cucky, humanitarian and given to pathological altruism and Stockholm syndrome.

    Would Europeans have invented "Christianity" if it hadn't arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?

    Replies: @Robert Hume, @Tyrion 2, @Louis Renault, @Travis

    Would Europeans have invented “Christianity” if it hadn’t arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?

    It is an interesting question: How genes and culture co-evolve. Nonetheless, this particular instance seems pretty easy to answer.

    Scandi-heaven pre-Christianity – you get there by dying in battle, once there you battle all day and debauche yourself all night.

    Scandi-heaven post-Christianity – you get there by doing good deeds or even just thinking good thoughts. Once there you sit on fluffy clouds and sing soft songs in harmony with angels for eternity.

  59. @Anonymous
    Don't tell Steven Pinker that who spends much of the last chapter of Enlightenment Now attacking Christianity

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Tyrion 2, @DFH

    Really? Maybe I won’t even read it. I bought the ebook by mistake instead just the free sample.

    He’s trying to be trendy. I guess a chapter on the marvels of Islam might too obvious and contradict common sense.

    This study confirms common sense.

    Criticizing Christianity is so commonplace. I was hoping for some new ideas.

  60. @Anonymous
    Don't tell Steven Pinker that who spends much of the last chapter of Enlightenment Now attacking Christianity

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Tyrion 2, @DFH

    He has fallen in with the Spiked Online crowd. They are very pro-Enlightenment. They are also an important part of the anti-SJW fightback as they are neither nihilists nor third world or even third sex volkists.

  61. @eah
    OT

    Righteous sincerity asymptotically approaches parody.

    Here is the full personal gender pronouns document produced by @ChemistryatYork to help train our research & teaching staff and supervisors. #LGBTPhysSci #LGBTSTEM

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXPAvWnXcAA8gjU.jpg

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Back in days of yore, say the 1960s, it was rare indeed that the gender of someone wasn’t obvious.

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Why would someone make a huge effort to go from male to female (for example) yet still want to be called “he”?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    @Frau Katze

    I'm sure they don't, but just because he/she is deceiving himself/herself doesn't mean the rest of us have to play along. I'll avoid pronouns altogether with such individuals. Bruce Jenner can have breast implants, plastic surgery on his face, and wear as many different sequined evening gowns he wants, but he still has a schlong, and every cell in his body is screaming XY. Why should we have to pretend otherwise and admire this emperor's new clothes? He's just a man in a dress with a sexual fetish that includes no small measure of exhibitionism. Likewise for the vast majority of transsexuals who, in our sick society, can find doctors to indulge their pursuit of unicorns. In all but the rarest of cases, it is, in my opinion, medical malpractice and abuse of scarce medical resources, and when it involves underage children, outright child abuse.

    Replies: @fish, @SimpleSong

    , @eah
    @Frau Katze

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Accommodating sexual aberrancy has been a rather slippery slope, wouldn't you say?

    http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/there_are_only_two_genders.jpg

    Replies: @L Woods, @Frau Katze

    , @stillCARealist
    @Frau Katze

    Did you follow the link? It goes to some queer schmuck in Britain who wants to let everyone know how righteous he is. He wants nothing to do with YOUR religion, but you must respect HIS faith. And he will "gently correct" you if you say something insensitive. I doubt he even knows a "transgender" person, which, BTW, is almost undefinable in real life.

  62. @Anonymous
    Christianity is the kind of religion white people would like. It didn’t create white people or the goodness we see in Western countries.

    Islam is an appropriate religion for the type of mentality that exists in the Middle East and other places.

    Get the direction of causality correct.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas, @Frau Katze

    In the current setting of Islam in the West it seems to attract aggressive and/or criminal whites.

    I don’t have stats but there have been cases like this.

    I have read that in France, Muslim criminals force everyone in the prison to convert.

    Only someone with a strong tribal ethnic group (Corsica was mentioned) could resist.

    The article about the French prisons carefully avoid stats.

  63. @Alec Leamas
    @Anonymous


    There is in Islam a paradox which is perhaps a permanent menace. The great creed born in the desert creates a kind of ecstasy out of the very emptiness of its own land, and even, one may say, out of the emptiness of its own theology. It affirms, with no little sublimity, something that is not merely the singleness but rather the solitude of God. There is the same extreme simplification in the solitary figure of the Prophet; and yet this isolation perpetually reacts into its own opposite. A void is made in the heart of Islam which has to be filled up again and again by a mere repetition of the revolution that founded it. There are no sacraments; the only thing that can happen is a sort of apocalypse, as unique as the end of the world; so the apocalypse can only be repeated and the world end again and again. There are no priests; and yet this equality can only breed a multitude of lawless prophets almost as numerous as priests. The very dogma that there is only one Mahomet produces an endless procession of Mahomets. Of these the mightiest in modern times were the man whose name was Ahmed, and whose more famous title was the Mahdi; and his more ferocious successor Abdullahi, who was generally known as the Khalifa. These great fanatics, or great creators of fanaticism, succeeded in making a militarism almost as famous and formidable as that of the Turkish Empire on whose frontiers it hovered, and in spreading a reign of terror such as can seldom be organised except by civilisation…
     

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Who are you quoting? Sounds interesting.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Frau Katze

    Chesterton.

    It's in his book on Kitchener:
    http://www.gkc.org.uk/gkc/books/25795-h/25795-h.htm

  64. @Bill P
    Part of our problem regarding human rights is that the Christian concept of the community has been debased.

    I have become convinced that freedom of religion was, in its time, considered sufficient for ensuring communal freedom in the United States. To British settlers and early Americans, the church was the community. I don't think anyone who knows American history can honestly argue against that point. However, in recent times this fact of American life, which was always taken for granted until only a few decades ago, has been largely eradicated.

    Thus we are left only with individual rights, which are inconsequential to an organization with a monopoly on force, e.g. the ATF and FBI in 1993 during the Waco siege.

    When Christians no longer have the right to form their own communities according to their own principles, they are rendered impotent and defenseless.

    Freedom of religion is essential in that there is ultimately no rational basis for human rights or liberty. As was made clear in the founding documents of the United States, our rights are God-given, and not subject to repeal based on sophistry or the declamations of prophet killers or would-be deicides.

    Replies: @Samuel Skinner, @bomag

    As was made clear in the founding documents of the United States, our rights are God-given, and not subject to repeal based on sophistry or the declamations of prophet killers or would-be deicides.

    That didn’t work. Freedom of religion lead to the American Civil War. Slavery was sanctioned by the Old Testament until Northerners decided it wasn’t because of feelz and changed their religious beliefs and used that to justify not obeying the law. This is inevitable because people like feeling superior to others and like having excuses to hurt others.

    More then one religion CANNOT coexist in a single policy. One will always seize control of the machinery of state and rule over the others.

  65. @advancedatheist

    Freedom of religion is essential in that there is ultimately no rational basis for human rights or liberty.
     
    What do you do for human rights and liberty when religious belief organically declines in your society, without any central planning to bring this about? This has happened in many developed countries already, and some social scientists attribute the disappearance to better existential conditions, like universal health insurance. (BTW, has anyone looked into the effect of the Affordable Care Act, which the Republicans can't seem to abolish, on the nation's religiosity?)

    The trend of indifference to religion even seems to have affected the popularity of cults. I can remember a lot of media coverage back in the 1970's about the growth and visibility of cults, from Scientology to Hare Krishna to the Unification Church to Jim Jones's People's Temple. I suppose many of these cults still survive, but we don't hear anywhere near as much about them these days, much less about newer ones.

    Replies: @Joe, Averaged, @Samuel Skinner

    What do you do for human rights and liberty when religious belief organically declines in your society, without any central planning to bring this about?

    All the ‘organic declines’ involve society taking a turn to the left. The obvious answer is leftism is toxic and slowly destroys societies and so needs to be combated and stopped.

  66. @Josh Wexler
    Link to study? Can't find it via google.

    Replies: @George

    The study is probably not as complimentary as Judeo Christians are thinking.

    Are homosexual rights an example of improved human rights or societal decedance? When examining human rights of Christian Nations does foreign colonies and occupations count?

  67. @Svigor
    Something tells me if all the Christians in the study converted to Islam, and all the Muslims in the study converted to Christianity, these correlations would persist in place, rather than switch to follow the new nominal religions.

    Just sayin', I think there's a big chicken or egg question here (though I think there are obvious, relevant theological differences).

    Don’t tell Steven Pinker that who spends much of the last chapter of Enlightenment Now attacking Christianity
     
    Criticizing Christianity is a very safe, cozy, boring, lazy, conformist endeavor. Attacking Judaism or Islam is dangerous, bold, edgy, and non-conformist.

    So Pinker's saying something about himself.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Criticizing Christianity is old old hat. Not an iota of edginess there.

  68. @nebulafox
    @The Z Blog

    One of the interesting differences between Sunni and Shi'a Islam, from my limited understanding, is that the former is a lot more decentralized. Shi'a Islam, on the other hand, has a very organized, hierarchial structure of mullahs and imams who are the only ones authorized to give fatwas-and becoming one takes decades of training, not too dissimilar from how entering the hierarchy of the Catholic Church would have been many centuries ago.

    The overwhelming majority of terrorists attacking the West are Sunnis. Granted, part of that is simply numerics, but even so, the very anti-Western sort of Qutbism seems to really be rooted in a specifically Sunni form of literalist, radical Islam-it is in Sunni Islam that a figure like, say, Zarqawi, can find prominence more easily. In Shi'a Islam, the formal strictures of the religion would operate against him. Shi'a terrorist attacks are invariably almost always carried out within the Middle East for sectarian purposes as opposed to attacking the West. Even when the Persians launch covert operations in the West, it is almost always to assassinate specific Middle Eastern figures that they don't like for political reasons (say, the Saudi ambassador to the US or certain Kurdish guerrilla leaders) rather than to attack random European or American civilians out of a high-flung mix of jihad fervor and nihilism.

    This isn't to downplay the deep hostility that the mullahs (and the Basij Militia, Quds, et all) have toward to the West writ large and to the US and Israel in particular, but the idea that Iran is the major terrorist threat that we face, as opposed to the Wahabbists and the inroads they are making into European Muslim immigrant populations, is deeply misguided. Yet it still carries massive currency among the neocon-infested FOX crowd.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Bardon Kaldian

    Shiism isn’t as hierarchical as you think. There’s no single head like the Catholic Pope. No single Ayatollah is in charge.

    Shiites pick an Ayatollah to support. Almost all Islamic or quasi Islamic splinter groups splintered from Shiism.

    With the Sunnis, the studying on interpretation closed centuries ago with the four schools. End of story.

    Shiism could theoretically come up with new interpretations.

    Theoretically.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @Frau Katze

    The governing council of Iran is still bats*** crazy, but if our hands weren’t tied in a particular paradigm of alliances in the region (don’t make me include round brackets) there is a lot of potential to play off the sentiments of the population, who by most accounts are tired of the same old and itching to emerge as a modern society in the world.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

  69. @Frau Katze
    @eah

    Back in days of yore, say the 1960s, it was rare indeed that the gender of someone wasn’t obvious.

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Why would someone make a huge effort to go from male to female (for example) yet still want to be called “he”?

    Replies: @TTSSYF, @eah, @stillCARealist

    I’m sure they don’t, but just because he/she is deceiving himself/herself doesn’t mean the rest of us have to play along. I’ll avoid pronouns altogether with such individuals. Bruce Jenner can have breast implants, plastic surgery on his face, and wear as many different sequined evening gowns he wants, but he still has a schlong, and every cell in his body is screaming XY. Why should we have to pretend otherwise and admire this emperor’s new clothes? He’s just a man in a dress with a sexual fetish that includes no small measure of exhibitionism. Likewise for the vast majority of transsexuals who, in our sick society, can find doctors to indulge their pursuit of unicorns. In all but the rarest of cases, it is, in my opinion, medical malpractice and abuse of scarce medical resources, and when it involves underage children, outright child abuse.

    • Replies: @fish
    @TTSSYF


    ......but he still has a schlong.
     
    Think he went schlongless early to mid last yeast! Was very vocal about his happiness in being rid of “little Kaitlin”.
    , @SimpleSong
    @TTSSYF

    One of the most disgusting things about all this is that the sex change operations are for the most part paid for by insurance; next time you pay your insurance premium remember that some of that will go towards choppin' off the man bits.

    Several years ago I worked at a hospital where we were not allowed to use cutting edge equipment or drugs because it cost too much. But we also did a lot of sex change operations paid for by insurance. Big picture, if insurance didn't cover things like sex changes maybe they could have spared a few more bucks for the routine appendectomies and other surgeries that we did, and we could actually have equipment that wasn't constantly broken. Or maybe they could reduce premiums a bit. Or cover more people. But nope! As a society we wanted sex changes.

  70. @nebulafox
    @The Z Blog

    One of the interesting differences between Sunni and Shi'a Islam, from my limited understanding, is that the former is a lot more decentralized. Shi'a Islam, on the other hand, has a very organized, hierarchial structure of mullahs and imams who are the only ones authorized to give fatwas-and becoming one takes decades of training, not too dissimilar from how entering the hierarchy of the Catholic Church would have been many centuries ago.

    The overwhelming majority of terrorists attacking the West are Sunnis. Granted, part of that is simply numerics, but even so, the very anti-Western sort of Qutbism seems to really be rooted in a specifically Sunni form of literalist, radical Islam-it is in Sunni Islam that a figure like, say, Zarqawi, can find prominence more easily. In Shi'a Islam, the formal strictures of the religion would operate against him. Shi'a terrorist attacks are invariably almost always carried out within the Middle East for sectarian purposes as opposed to attacking the West. Even when the Persians launch covert operations in the West, it is almost always to assassinate specific Middle Eastern figures that they don't like for political reasons (say, the Saudi ambassador to the US or certain Kurdish guerrilla leaders) rather than to attack random European or American civilians out of a high-flung mix of jihad fervor and nihilism.

    This isn't to downplay the deep hostility that the mullahs (and the Basij Militia, Quds, et all) have toward to the West writ large and to the US and Israel in particular, but the idea that Iran is the major terrorist threat that we face, as opposed to the Wahabbists and the inroads they are making into European Muslim immigrant populations, is deeply misguided. Yet it still carries massive currency among the neocon-infested FOX crowd.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Bardon Kaldian

    One of the interesting differences between Sunni and Shi’a Islam, from my limited understanding, is that the former is a lot more decentralized. Shi’a Islam, on the other hand, has a very organized, hierarchial structure of mullahs and imams who are the only ones authorized to give fatwas-and becoming one takes decades of training, not too dissimilar from how entering the hierarchy of the Catholic Church would have been many centuries ago.

    You got that right. Some Bahais have observed this, too: http://bahaiforums.com/interfaith/2708-shiite-islam-catholic-christianity.html

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The Shias also have in common that their Moharram observances involve carrying replicas of the tombs of the martyrs around the town, while beating the breast or worse and chanting "Ya Hassan!". Bit like carrying Our Lady's statue round a Spanish town singing a 'saeta' to her at every stop.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7niPElaelY

  71. @Anon
    How do you disentangle being Christian from being white? Given that whiteness and Christian-ness are highly correlated with one another, I wonder if they looked at all the non-white but Christian countries separately.

    Also, you wonder to what extent Christianity is a religion that is naturally suited to the European genetic personality type (esp Scandinavian). Meaning: universalist, cucky, humanitarian and given to pathological altruism and Stockholm syndrome.

    Would Europeans have invented "Christianity" if it hadn't arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?

    Replies: @Robert Hume, @Tyrion 2, @Louis Renault, @Travis

    Would Europeans have invented “Christianity” if it hadn’t arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?

    Are you still waiting for Google and Alexa to tell you who Jesus Christ is? Perhaps Cardianal Sarah can explain it to you.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sarah

  72. ‘Human rights’ NGOs are staffed with intellectual and moral frauds. It was a generation ago that Morton Kondracke published an article delineating the career of Aryeh Neier, then a top official with Human Rights Watch. Neier was a press agent for the Sandinistas and other Latin American reds. You knew by 2000 that Amnesty International was utterly corrupt if it hadn’t been evident to you earlier: they declared cop killer Wesley Cook (a.k.a ‘Mumia Abu Jamal’) a ‘prisoner of conscience’. Now examine the annual reports of Freedom House. That people like Ezra Levant, Mark Steyn, Geert Wilders, Brigitte Bardot, and the entire membership of Vlaams Blok have been dragged through Star Chambers has no effect on the scores these countries receive. ‘Freedom’ House approves of official policy in these countries.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Art Deco

    Two facts which I just cannot stand:

    1/. 'Amnesty International' is mainly funded by UK taxpayers, whose money is appropriated whether they agree with AI's many odious positions or not.
    2/. The 'Chief Executive' of Amnesty International pays himself a ridiculously huge salary - paid from the money which fools voluntarily donate, in the understanding the money's going to 'help the cause' or else is forcefully taken from taxpayers.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Lars Porsena
    @Art Deco

    McDonalds Corp is not a government organization, but nobody calls it a Non-Governmental Organization, because no one would confuse the people flipping burgers with governments. NGOs are noteworthy as NGOs because they are doing GO stuff, organized by governments and oligarchs in pursuit of foreign policy goals. If you're going to let NGO's into your country you may as well let the CIA in. I'm glad the eastern European governments are catching on to this.

  73. @istevefan
    @Almost Missouri

    Like I explained in another comment, I was basing that on the discussions of liberty that I had read from Adam Smith and others who equated the need for a smaller standing army to having more liberty.

    Thinking about it, it probably is highly specific to England and doesn't seem to explain other nations in other parts of the world.

    As far as an example of an easy-to-invade place I suggest Russia. She has those great plains which fierce neighbors have used as a highway to invade, plunder and pillage several times. The most devastating land battle in history took place there. So it makes sense that the Russians had to develop a strong central authority, liberty and rights be damned, to ensure they could defend themselves.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ConservaWhig

    Another geo-determinative view is that liberty and prosperity come from good interior navigation. I.e., the US has (had?) relatively easy prosperity and light central authority because the interior river/canal system made moving commodities and people relatively cheap and easy. The Mississippi is probably the world’s largest navigable interior waterway, which also happens to intersect some of the world’s most productive farmland. And it is now supplemented by rail and superhighways.

    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.

    Britain had extensive canals and everywhere is close to the coast, so water navigation is natural and easy, hence it politically resembles America (leaving aside Anglo heritage). Ditto Netherlands and Denmark. Germany and Poland are sort of in between, Germany more US-like, Poland more Russia-like. Greece and Italy are US/Britain-like. Spain in between. Arabia, China, Africa, India, Mexico more Russia-like. Argentina, Uruguay more US-like. Etc.

    Outliers: Japan looks like Britain but acted like Russia, but then the Japanese are always outliers (they also got remarkable prosperity out of relatively poor land). Brazil looks like it should be a US clone with the Amazon as their Mississippi, but Brazil’s productive land is really along the coast or in the south, so the north-lying Amazon is really more of a vast outback than a pre-made trading highway, hence Brazil is a little more Russia-like than it “should” be. Canada looks like Russia, but most of the population live along the St. Lawrence or Great Lakes (or Pacific), so maps deceive us. Australia looks like a hot Russia but was settled by Brits, sooo…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    Unfortunately, before railroads came along, large tracts of Britain were, out of necessity, pretty canal-less - the interior of Britain is rather hilly, if never of a great elevation.
    Cascades of locks were necessary - which required their own ponds to operate - and such bizarre devices as 'inclined planes' and 'Anderson Boat Lifts' were built.
    Oddly enough, the Edinburgh-Glasgow Union Canal, upon which Burke and Hare laboured as 'paddies' is perhaps the world's finest 'contour canal' - in that the engineers with great difficulty and much earth and bridge work, managed to build a level waterway through some rather unforgiving country.

    , @Samuel Skinner
    @Almost Missouri

    Japan's interior is filled with mountain ranges; they are not like Britain.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @ConservaWhig
    @Almost Missouri

    Thomas Sowell has pointed to Europe vs. Africa as an example of how different types and numbers of rivers can promote different levels of liberty/prosperity.

    Replies: @DFH, @Charles Pewitt

    , @Verymuchalive
    @Almost Missouri


    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.
     
    The vast majority of European Russia drains southwards to the Caspian ( Volga ) or Black Sea ( Don ). I won't even mention the Dnieper ( apologies to AK ).
    Like the Mississippi, the Volga has a vast number of tributaries and sub-tributaries. Indeed, Moscow stands on one, the River Moskva. There are numerous canals also, which connect the Volga and Don, Lake Ladoga and elsewhere. Thus it is possible to transfer freight by boat from Saint Petersburg to Rostov-on-Don or Astrakhan. Like Germany, Russia moves a lot of freight by river and canal. The season is shorter - 9 to 10 months maximum, but it is still very important.
    The Siberian rivers flow to the Arctic Ocean. In the south, they are frozen much of the year. At their mouths, they are frozen MOST of the year. Not very useful for navigation. But only 10 million live in Siberia, largely towards the south. The vast majority of Russians still live in European Russia, so Siberia is unimportant, except for oil and mineral deposits.
    The trans-Siberian rail and highway do NOT run like threads through southern Russia. They connect Moscow, Siberia and the Russian Far East. They connect the dynamo ( European Russia ) to its sources of raw materials.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  74. As long as white men have institutional power anywhere the world will be have no real freedoms and human rights

    • Replies: @fish
    @Tiny Duck

    Ohs Tinys....you’n hab teh freedum to do’s all teh things I lak U to be doin wit dat purty whyte Mouf o urs!

    Lebsnerd “sho be likin his Tinys skilz” Pizzipty

  75. @Bill P
    Part of our problem regarding human rights is that the Christian concept of the community has been debased.

    I have become convinced that freedom of religion was, in its time, considered sufficient for ensuring communal freedom in the United States. To British settlers and early Americans, the church was the community. I don't think anyone who knows American history can honestly argue against that point. However, in recent times this fact of American life, which was always taken for granted until only a few decades ago, has been largely eradicated.

    Thus we are left only with individual rights, which are inconsequential to an organization with a monopoly on force, e.g. the ATF and FBI in 1993 during the Waco siege.

    When Christians no longer have the right to form their own communities according to their own principles, they are rendered impotent and defenseless.

    Freedom of religion is essential in that there is ultimately no rational basis for human rights or liberty. As was made clear in the founding documents of the United States, our rights are God-given, and not subject to repeal based on sophistry or the declamations of prophet killers or would-be deicides.

    Replies: @Samuel Skinner, @bomag

    As was made clear in the founding documents of the United States, our rights are God-given, and not subject to repeal based on sophistry or the declamations of prophet killers or would-be deicides.

    Seems that the right of conquest underlies human affairs; God-given seems to line up with whoever is strongest at the time.

  76. @Anonymous
    Don't tell Steven Pinker that who spends much of the last chapter of Enlightenment Now attacking Christianity

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Tyrion 2, @DFH

    A Jew who hates Christ? How novel!

  77. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    'Human rights' NGOs are staffed with intellectual and moral frauds. It was a generation ago that Morton Kondracke published an article delineating the career of Aryeh Neier, then a top official with Human Rights Watch. Neier was a press agent for the Sandinistas and other Latin American reds. You knew by 2000 that Amnesty International was utterly corrupt if it hadn't been evident to you earlier: they declared cop killer Wesley Cook (a.k.a 'Mumia Abu Jamal') a 'prisoner of conscience'. Now examine the annual reports of Freedom House. That people like Ezra Levant, Mark Steyn, Geert Wilders, Brigitte Bardot, and the entire membership of Vlaams Blok have been dragged through Star Chambers has no effect on the scores these countries receive. 'Freedom' House approves of official policy in these countries.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Lars Porsena

    Two facts which I just cannot stand:

    1/. ‘Amnesty International’ is mainly funded by UK taxpayers, whose money is appropriated whether they agree with AI’s many odious positions or not.
    2/. The ‘Chief Executive’ of Amnesty International pays himself a ridiculously huge salary – paid from the money which fools voluntarily donate, in the understanding the money’s going to ‘help the cause’ or else is forcefully taken from taxpayers.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Amnesty International is substantially funded by the UK government.

    Therefore it is compromised and cannot be trusted.

  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @istevefan

    Another geo-determinative view is that liberty and prosperity come from good interior navigation. I.e., the US has (had?) relatively easy prosperity and light central authority because the interior river/canal system made moving commodities and people relatively cheap and easy. The Mississippi is probably the world's largest navigable interior waterway, which also happens to intersect some of the world's most productive farmland. And it is now supplemented by rail and superhighways.

    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.

    Britain had extensive canals and everywhere is close to the coast, so water navigation is natural and easy, hence it politically resembles America (leaving aside Anglo heritage). Ditto Netherlands and Denmark. Germany and Poland are sort of in between, Germany more US-like, Poland more Russia-like. Greece and Italy are US/Britain-like. Spain in between. Arabia, China, Africa, India, Mexico more Russia-like. Argentina, Uruguay more US-like. Etc.

    Outliers: Japan looks like Britain but acted like Russia, but then the Japanese are always outliers (they also got remarkable prosperity out of relatively poor land). Brazil looks like it should be a US clone with the Amazon as their Mississippi, but Brazil's productive land is really along the coast or in the south, so the north-lying Amazon is really more of a vast outback than a pre-made trading highway, hence Brazil is a little more Russia-like than it "should" be. Canada looks like Russia, but most of the population live along the St. Lawrence or Great Lakes (or Pacific), so maps deceive us. Australia looks like a hot Russia but was settled by Brits, sooo...

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Samuel Skinner, @ConservaWhig, @Verymuchalive

    Unfortunately, before railroads came along, large tracts of Britain were, out of necessity, pretty canal-less – the interior of Britain is rather hilly, if never of a great elevation.
    Cascades of locks were necessary – which required their own ponds to operate – and such bizarre devices as ‘inclined planes’ and ‘Anderson Boat Lifts’ were built.
    Oddly enough, the Edinburgh-Glasgow Union Canal, upon which Burke and Hare laboured as ‘paddies’ is perhaps the world’s finest ‘contour canal’ – in that the engineers with great difficulty and much earth and bridge work, managed to build a level waterway through some rather unforgiving country.

  79. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    Shooting armed carjacker is same as school shooting:

    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,”


    Concealed-carry permit holder flips the script, shoots and kills alleged carjacker
    ...
    A Wisconsin man, using a gun licensed under a concealed-carry permit, shot and killed an alleged carjacker in his company’s parking lot, a city official said.
    ...
    The unidentified employee, 24, had just arrived for work at Milwaukee Machine Tool Corp., shortly before 6 a.m. Monday when a man named Carlos Martin, 21, allegedly attempted to carjack him with a gun, Milwaukee city alderman Cavalier Johnson told ABC News.
    ...
    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,” he said.
    ...
    The Milwaukee Medical Examiner did not immediately respond to ABC News’ requests for results of Martin’s autopsy.
    ...
    Police said the shooter is cooperating with their investigation, after which the Milwaukee District Attorney’s office will review the case and decide whether to bring any charges.

     

    Alternate story title: "World's Worst GTA player"

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Buffalo Joe, @EdwardM

    The unidentified employee, 24, had just arrived for work at Milwaukee Machine Tool Corp., shortly before 6 a.m. Monday when a man named Carlos Martin, 21, allegedly attempted to carjack him with a gun, Milwaukee city alderman Cavalier Johnson told ABC News.

    Hey, that carjacker was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,” he said.

    That sentence was about as grammatically coherent as I would expect from an Milwaukee Alderman named “Cavalier Johnson”.

  80. @Almost Missouri
    @istevefan

    Another geo-determinative view is that liberty and prosperity come from good interior navigation. I.e., the US has (had?) relatively easy prosperity and light central authority because the interior river/canal system made moving commodities and people relatively cheap and easy. The Mississippi is probably the world's largest navigable interior waterway, which also happens to intersect some of the world's most productive farmland. And it is now supplemented by rail and superhighways.

    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.

    Britain had extensive canals and everywhere is close to the coast, so water navigation is natural and easy, hence it politically resembles America (leaving aside Anglo heritage). Ditto Netherlands and Denmark. Germany and Poland are sort of in between, Germany more US-like, Poland more Russia-like. Greece and Italy are US/Britain-like. Spain in between. Arabia, China, Africa, India, Mexico more Russia-like. Argentina, Uruguay more US-like. Etc.

    Outliers: Japan looks like Britain but acted like Russia, but then the Japanese are always outliers (they also got remarkable prosperity out of relatively poor land). Brazil looks like it should be a US clone with the Amazon as their Mississippi, but Brazil's productive land is really along the coast or in the south, so the north-lying Amazon is really more of a vast outback than a pre-made trading highway, hence Brazil is a little more Russia-like than it "should" be. Canada looks like Russia, but most of the population live along the St. Lawrence or Great Lakes (or Pacific), so maps deceive us. Australia looks like a hot Russia but was settled by Brits, sooo...

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Samuel Skinner, @ConservaWhig, @Verymuchalive

    Japan’s interior is filled with mountain ranges; they are not like Britain.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Samuel Skinner

    Right, but everyone lives close to the sea, so even when the interior is mountainous, it is also shallow and easily circumnavigated.

  81. @Robert Hume
    @Anon


    How do you disentangle being Christian from being white? Given that whiteness and Christian-ness are highly correlated with one another, I wonder if they looked at all the non-white but Christian countries separately.
     
    Good point. Think of the great art and music associated with Christianity in white countries. For example Michelangelo and Bach. Is there anything like that in nonwhite Christian countries?

    Replies: @Foreign Expert

    Japanese come pretty close.

  82. @songbird
    @istevefan

    That's interesting. I swear that I saw something produced by the German government that suggested that Germans bowed to authority and that the reason was how historically unstable Germany was. Often invaded, before it was a unified country.

    Not that I would trust the German government...

    Replies: @Lars Porsena

    Before it was unified it was the Holy Roman Empire for a thousand years. Who invaded that? Napoleon was the only one since Charlemagne. Germany has endured more foreign occupation since unification than before.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @Lars Porsena

    "Who invaded that? Napoleon was the only one since Charlemagne." Oh balls. Did the Thirty Years War never happen? Did Louis XIV never live?

  83. OFF TOPIC

    https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/969280853539999746

    What the hell is Trumpy saying? 25 percent is not enough. Make it 95 percent.

  84. @Art Deco
    'Human rights' NGOs are staffed with intellectual and moral frauds. It was a generation ago that Morton Kondracke published an article delineating the career of Aryeh Neier, then a top official with Human Rights Watch. Neier was a press agent for the Sandinistas and other Latin American reds. You knew by 2000 that Amnesty International was utterly corrupt if it hadn't been evident to you earlier: they declared cop killer Wesley Cook (a.k.a 'Mumia Abu Jamal') a 'prisoner of conscience'. Now examine the annual reports of Freedom House. That people like Ezra Levant, Mark Steyn, Geert Wilders, Brigitte Bardot, and the entire membership of Vlaams Blok have been dragged through Star Chambers has no effect on the scores these countries receive. 'Freedom' House approves of official policy in these countries.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Lars Porsena

    McDonalds Corp is not a government organization, but nobody calls it a Non-Governmental Organization, because no one would confuse the people flipping burgers with governments. NGOs are noteworthy as NGOs because they are doing GO stuff, organized by governments and oligarchs in pursuit of foreign policy goals. If you’re going to let NGO’s into your country you may as well let the CIA in. I’m glad the eastern European governments are catching on to this.

    • Agree: BB753
  85. @Frau Katze
    @Alec Leamas

    Who are you quoting? Sounds interesting.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Chesterton.

    It’s in his book on Kitchener:
    http://www.gkc.org.uk/gkc/books/25795-h/25795-h.htm

  86. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/its-disgusting-ugly-racial-tensions-flare-in-melbourne-over-macedonia/news-story/3f6c12384b9606a05649bb6fd527e211

    And why is this an Australian problem?

    If both communities are so nationalist, why are they in Australia than in their own nations to raise this silly ruckus?

    And why do Greeks take pride in Macedonia and Alexander? He kicked Greek ass and conquered them.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/inside-moped-gangs-terrorising-london-streets-with-acid-and-knives/news-story/8cc7868f58c00ca4f1c4a518d8345730

    Diversity, the gift that keeps on giving.

  87. @Anon
    West is like parents who neglect their own kids to adopt more kids and then neglect the adopted kids to adopt yet more kids and then neglect them to adopt more kids..

    A civilization addicted to the cult of newness and novelty. It has no attention span, no memory, no nothing but the thrill of getting more new stuff.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Jake

    That’s a good way of putting it.

    To get there, we had to rebel against Christendom, which made certain we would both have deep guilt (meaning, we would feel we needed punishment) and search for new defining meaning in ideology, which necessarily would keep moving ever farther from any defense of the West that used to be Christendom.

  88. But this study must be using old-fashioned definitions of human rights such as freedom of speech and freedom of religion, when everybody knows the only two human rights that matter these days are freedom of Muslims in Muslim countries to move to your country so they can enjoy more human rights and the Muslim newcomers’ right to feel comfortable in what used to be your country by imposing Muslim views of freedom (freedom to be Muslim).

    Steve, this doesn’t sound correct to me.

    I believe the two human rights that are most important:

    — Right of Muslims to move to the West and impose their Musliminess on native white people.

    — Right of mentally ill boys to use the girls’ locker room and bathroom.

    (And to the perceptive the common thread of modern leftism is apparent.)

  89. Anonymous [AKA "Your Human Right to Digital Cavity Search"] says:
    @Tiny Duck Farts
    The USA literally has the worst human rights record in history thanks to Blonald Blumph!

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Currahee

    Tiny Duck Farts, (and allow me to say it gives me great pleasure to address you by name, Tiny Duck Farts,)

    I was looking at that CIRI dataset and said, What? The rights came from one (1) of the nine core instruments. Then I saw where they came from. Aha. From DoS country reports. DoS only looks at the lame little driblet of halfassed rights the US government lets you have (except when they take them away from you with bad-faith interpretation of the instruments, like when cops want to handcuff you and tase the crap out of you and then shoot you eight times.) Getting human-rights evals from DoS is like asking Michael Jackson to evaluate your daycare center.

    The right way to do this is to code the OHCHR Useful Information, weighting Issues and Conclusions and Recommendations* by article, with binary variables for follow-ons (more urgent derogations,) and coding UPR recommendations** for deficient commitments, then then do a cluster analysis.

    Course if any professor went and did that, he and his tenure would be shit through a goose and he’d wind up Adjunct Lecturer in Emptying Wastebaskets at National American University’s flagship Mall of America campus.

    * from http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Countries/Pages/HumanRightsintheWorld.aspx

    ** those are conveniently compiled here, https://www.upr-info.org/database/ though some of the cheekiest recommendations, like North Korea’s, tend to get bowdlerized. For all the best zingers you need to go to treatybodywebcast.org

  90. @Frau Katze
    @eah

    Back in days of yore, say the 1960s, it was rare indeed that the gender of someone wasn’t obvious.

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Why would someone make a huge effort to go from male to female (for example) yet still want to be called “he”?

    Replies: @TTSSYF, @eah, @stillCARealist

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Accommodating sexual aberrancy has been a rather slippery slope, wouldn’t you say?

    • Replies: @L Woods
    @eah

    One mistake: the symbol in the far upper left should be in both categories.

    , @Frau Katze
    @eah

    What I meant was he or she. nothing else. Maybe “it”.

    Replies: @eah

  91. @Anonymous
    How in tarnation was this accepted at a modern sociology journal? Is this some sort of rogue journal published by outcast sociologists?

    O.K., I see that Rindermann is kind of rogue:


    A 2007 study by Rindermann found a high correlation between the results of international student assessment studies including TIMSS, PIRLS, and PISA, and national average IQ scores.[7] The results were broadly similar to those in Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen's book IQ and the Wealth of Nations. According to Earl B. Hunt, due to there being far more data available, Rindermann's analysis was more reliable than those by Lynn and Vanhanen. By measuring the relationship between educational data and social well-being over time, this study also performed a causal analysis, finding that nations investing in education leads to increased well-being later on.[8]

    Some of Rindermann's work has concentrated on the "smart fraction" theory, which states that the prosperity and performance of a society depends on the proportion of the population that is above a particular threshold of intelligence, with the threshold point being well above the general median intelligence level in most societies.[9][10][11][12]

    Rindermann's research has been cited by people studying the relation between intelligence, education, and economic growth, such as Garett Jones.[13]
     

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Heiner Rindermann – together with his colleague Detlev Rost – was the most important scientific defender of Thilo Sarrazin (Germany Does Away With Itself), who had risked to not only understand, but also make broad use of “The Bell Curve” to criticize unregulated mass-immigration – not least of muslims.

    – A real act of enlightenment – it was Immanuel Kant, who once asked people, to make courageous use of their understanding!

    – Steven Pinker fails in that regard in his new book, unfortunately.

  92. @istevefan
    @Reg Cæsar

    I probably conflated support for human rights with liberty. Looking at it from an English/American perspective, I don't think about human rights. I think of liberty. Maybe the two are related, maybe they are not.

    If I recall, Adam Smith wrote a little about England needing a much smaller standing army than other European nations because it did not have to worry about another nation easily crossing its border like what you had on the continent. So he felt England had more liberty than other Europeans nations, Switzerland excepted.

    Additionally, in the Federalist Papers I think there was a discussion about the benefits of the 13 colonies being one nation because if they were two or more separate nations, they might become more like continental Europe and require larger standing armies as competition among them for land and resources might develop. Likewise liberty would decrease under those conditions.

    I think the English believed that there was a link to small standing armies and liberty, and the need for a small standing army was dependent upon how likely your nation was to be invaded.

    Note, they had no problem with large navies since the sailors presumably would be at sea on ships and would not pose a threat to liberty like soldiers.

    You are right that the Dutch and Danes seem to be high on the human rights scale. But I don't think they have the same concept of liberty that we do.

    I am not too familiar with the Poles. It seems like a nice place, but once again do they have the same conception of liberty that we do?

    Replies: @International Jew, @gunner29

    I think the English believed that there was a link to small standing armies and liberty

    That’s what was behind the Romans’ rule against any army crossing to south of the Rubicon. Unfortunately, the Praetorian Guard was all it took to turn Rome into a miliitary dictatorship, by the time of the first emperors.

  93. @Anon
    How do you disentangle being Christian from being white? Given that whiteness and Christian-ness are highly correlated with one another, I wonder if they looked at all the non-white but Christian countries separately.

    Also, you wonder to what extent Christianity is a religion that is naturally suited to the European genetic personality type (esp Scandinavian). Meaning: universalist, cucky, humanitarian and given to pathological altruism and Stockholm syndrome.

    Would Europeans have invented "Christianity" if it hadn't arrived on their doorstep in 0AD?

    Replies: @Robert Hume, @Tyrion 2, @Louis Renault, @Travis

    interesting question…hard to separate the history of white people from Christianity…The church also impacted the the genes of whites by banning cousin marriages to destroy the clans which effected white culture. If the church had allowed cousin marriages to continue and not eliminated the clans white people today may well have been less altruistic.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Travis

    Van Morrison Christian.

    Richard Wagner Christian.

    Thomas Hardy Christian.

    European Christendom is more European than Christian. The pagan streams still run clear and cold as Christianity becomes dry and brittle.

    Christianity is either a fighting faith or it croaks. Christianity has become a surrender cult. Surrender cults don't do well up against submission cults.

    I am too lazy to read Huntington's book on geo-political cultural conflict. I am energetic plenty enough and clear-sighted enough to call for the mass deportation of foreigners. A rumour was on the internet that the French Deep State has contingency plans for the mass deportation of foreigners. Macron would do it to save the French ruling class.

    Christianity used to produce Greg Luzinski-type guys with warrior wings who had no problem delivering retaliation to invading Muslims in Europe. Globalization, financialization and anti-White propaganda have done much to destroy European Christendom.

    Replies: @Travis

  94. This “study” demonstrates more than anything else the inanity of modern sociology and the limited utility of least squares regression.

  95. @eah

    I think I can follow the official reasoning here. Tweeting pictures of a crime means you’re anti-crime. And that means you have to go to prison.

  96. Political institutions are highly correlated with human rights, but religion is the decisive background factor.

    And, is genetics the lurking variable?

  97. I’d say the freedom to worship blacks and point out how brilliant they are is as important as the freedom to bring muslins to your country. Anything but straight White Men.

  98. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    They keep foisting all this pro-Muslim propaganda on us in the media to where it’s really sickening. All these wonderful, happy hijab-wearers are just like you and me and are wonderful new Americans. This primitive backwardness is being extolled as just some fashion statement. Man, the lies just never end.

  99. @rogue-one
    @Reg Cæsar

    1. Google & Youtube have attained a monopoly status. You don't need to work 12 hours a day anymore. Some of my friends at google have had periods of several months where they basically did nothing.

    2. Women & minorities are a protected class. They won't be fired for H1Bs. Rather, they would some sort of part-time gig at Google/Youtube. On the other hand, white guys (& perhaps asians too) are disposable.

    3. This illustrates the core dilemma of our times. Young men, often white or asian, build valuable things like companies. However, once these companies are functioning well, politically savvy "victimhood" groups like women and minorities take over a major portion of the company and its money pushing out the the kinds of people who actually built the thing. I have no doubt that if things go bad, these political opportunists would bail rather than try & fix things.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Curtis Mouser I, @Reg Cæsar

    3 The sooner White beta males realize society is structured against them & give up, the better. Civilizational collapse would ensue, increasing our value.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Curtis Mouser I

    This sounds as likely as the strike by “men of the mind” that Ayn Rand envisions in Atlas Shrugged.

  100. @Frau Katze
    @eah

    Back in days of yore, say the 1960s, it was rare indeed that the gender of someone wasn’t obvious.

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Why would someone make a huge effort to go from male to female (for example) yet still want to be called “he”?

    Replies: @TTSSYF, @eah, @stillCARealist

    Did you follow the link? It goes to some queer schmuck in Britain who wants to let everyone know how righteous he is. He wants nothing to do with YOUR religion, but you must respect HIS faith. And he will “gently correct” you if you say something insensitive. I doubt he even knows a “transgender” person, which, BTW, is almost undefinable in real life.

  101. @TTSSYF
    @Frau Katze

    I'm sure they don't, but just because he/she is deceiving himself/herself doesn't mean the rest of us have to play along. I'll avoid pronouns altogether with such individuals. Bruce Jenner can have breast implants, plastic surgery on his face, and wear as many different sequined evening gowns he wants, but he still has a schlong, and every cell in his body is screaming XY. Why should we have to pretend otherwise and admire this emperor's new clothes? He's just a man in a dress with a sexual fetish that includes no small measure of exhibitionism. Likewise for the vast majority of transsexuals who, in our sick society, can find doctors to indulge their pursuit of unicorns. In all but the rarest of cases, it is, in my opinion, medical malpractice and abuse of scarce medical resources, and when it involves underage children, outright child abuse.

    Replies: @fish, @SimpleSong

    ……but he still has a schlong.

    Think he went schlongless early to mid last yeast! Was very vocal about his happiness in being rid of “little Kaitlin”.

  102. @istevefan
    @Almost Missouri

    Like I explained in another comment, I was basing that on the discussions of liberty that I had read from Adam Smith and others who equated the need for a smaller standing army to having more liberty.

    Thinking about it, it probably is highly specific to England and doesn't seem to explain other nations in other parts of the world.

    As far as an example of an easy-to-invade place I suggest Russia. She has those great plains which fierce neighbors have used as a highway to invade, plunder and pillage several times. The most devastating land battle in history took place there. So it makes sense that the Russians had to develop a strong central authority, liberty and rights be damned, to ensure they could defend themselves.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @ConservaWhig

    My Russian History professor presented your ideas about Russia as Richard Pipes’ hypothesis.

  103. @Almost Missouri
    @istevefan

    Another geo-determinative view is that liberty and prosperity come from good interior navigation. I.e., the US has (had?) relatively easy prosperity and light central authority because the interior river/canal system made moving commodities and people relatively cheap and easy. The Mississippi is probably the world's largest navigable interior waterway, which also happens to intersect some of the world's most productive farmland. And it is now supplemented by rail and superhighways.

    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.

    Britain had extensive canals and everywhere is close to the coast, so water navigation is natural and easy, hence it politically resembles America (leaving aside Anglo heritage). Ditto Netherlands and Denmark. Germany and Poland are sort of in between, Germany more US-like, Poland more Russia-like. Greece and Italy are US/Britain-like. Spain in between. Arabia, China, Africa, India, Mexico more Russia-like. Argentina, Uruguay more US-like. Etc.

    Outliers: Japan looks like Britain but acted like Russia, but then the Japanese are always outliers (they also got remarkable prosperity out of relatively poor land). Brazil looks like it should be a US clone with the Amazon as their Mississippi, but Brazil's productive land is really along the coast or in the south, so the north-lying Amazon is really more of a vast outback than a pre-made trading highway, hence Brazil is a little more Russia-like than it "should" be. Canada looks like Russia, but most of the population live along the St. Lawrence or Great Lakes (or Pacific), so maps deceive us. Australia looks like a hot Russia but was settled by Brits, sooo...

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Samuel Skinner, @ConservaWhig, @Verymuchalive

    Thomas Sowell has pointed to Europe vs. Africa as an example of how different types and numbers of rivers can promote different levels of liberty/prosperity.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @DFH
    @ConservaWhig

    Imagine being that desperate to avoid acknowledging racial differences.

    Replies: @ConservaWhig

    , @Charles Pewitt
    @ConservaWhig

    Thomas Sowell blamed Scotch-Irish plantation overseers and Scotch-Irish cultural norms in general for Black violence and Black riotousness. I am a Euro-Mongrel with a Givens surname in my ancestry. Sowell can go straight to hell.

    Replies: @Triumph104

  104. @eah
    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/969367486482219008

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Buffalo Joe

    eah, so the Contrarian Principle that says “white face” is good, “black face” is racist.

  105. @Hubbub
    Without freedom of religion, freedom of association, and freedom of speech, we have essentially no freedoms to speak of in real terms. Like Obama said, "Words, just words."

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Hub, a few years ago, a member of the Canadian Human Rights commission said that “Free Speech ” is an American concept, that doesn’t apply in Canada. The nation directly to our north has different laws concerning freedom of speech and they can be quite restrictive. I believe Mark Steyn was charged in Canada with hate speech against Muslims for saying something that is acceptable, under the law, in the USA.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @Buffalo Joe

    It would probably more accurate to say that the American concept of “Free Speech ” relates only to government interference in speech.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  106. @Almost Missouri
    @istevefan

    Another geo-determinative view is that liberty and prosperity come from good interior navigation. I.e., the US has (had?) relatively easy prosperity and light central authority because the interior river/canal system made moving commodities and people relatively cheap and easy. The Mississippi is probably the world's largest navigable interior waterway, which also happens to intersect some of the world's most productive farmland. And it is now supplemented by rail and superhighways.

    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.

    Britain had extensive canals and everywhere is close to the coast, so water navigation is natural and easy, hence it politically resembles America (leaving aside Anglo heritage). Ditto Netherlands and Denmark. Germany and Poland are sort of in between, Germany more US-like, Poland more Russia-like. Greece and Italy are US/Britain-like. Spain in between. Arabia, China, Africa, India, Mexico more Russia-like. Argentina, Uruguay more US-like. Etc.

    Outliers: Japan looks like Britain but acted like Russia, but then the Japanese are always outliers (they also got remarkable prosperity out of relatively poor land). Brazil looks like it should be a US clone with the Amazon as their Mississippi, but Brazil's productive land is really along the coast or in the south, so the north-lying Amazon is really more of a vast outback than a pre-made trading highway, hence Brazil is a little more Russia-like than it "should" be. Canada looks like Russia, but most of the population live along the St. Lawrence or Great Lakes (or Pacific), so maps deceive us. Australia looks like a hot Russia but was settled by Brits, sooo...

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Samuel Skinner, @ConservaWhig, @Verymuchalive

    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.

    The vast majority of European Russia drains southwards to the Caspian ( Volga ) or Black Sea ( Don ). I won’t even mention the Dnieper ( apologies to AK ).
    Like the Mississippi, the Volga has a vast number of tributaries and sub-tributaries. Indeed, Moscow stands on one, the River Moskva. There are numerous canals also, which connect the Volga and Don, Lake Ladoga and elsewhere. Thus it is possible to transfer freight by boat from Saint Petersburg to Rostov-on-Don or Astrakhan. Like Germany, Russia moves a lot of freight by river and canal. The season is shorter – 9 to 10 months maximum, but it is still very important.
    The Siberian rivers flow to the Arctic Ocean. In the south, they are frozen much of the year. At their mouths, they are frozen MOST of the year. Not very useful for navigation. But only 10 million live in Siberia, largely towards the south. The vast majority of Russians still live in European Russia, so Siberia is unimportant, except for oil and mineral deposits.
    The trans-Siberian rail and highway do NOT run like threads through southern Russia. They connect Moscow, Siberia and the Russian Far East. They connect the dynamo ( European Russia ) to its sources of raw materials.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Verymuchalive

    Yes the only river in Russia that flows under Russian sovereignty into the global ocean is the Don. Unfortunately for Russia, it flows into the Sea of Azov, which flows into the Black Sea, which connects via the Dardanelles to the Mediterranean. At each of these stages, trade, transport and naval sallies are subject to interdiction by the global maritime hegemon (Ottomans & Britain in the past, US in the present, China(?) in the future), especially at the Dardanelles, Gibraltar and Suez. The Ottomans and the British have closed the Dardanelles at will during past conflicts.

    And agree that the Trans Siberian transportation carries nothing like the capacity of the US system.

  107. @Frau Katze
    @nebulafox

    Shiism isn’t as hierarchical as you think. There’s no single head like the Catholic Pope. No single Ayatollah is in charge.

    Shiites pick an Ayatollah to support. Almost all Islamic or quasi Islamic splinter groups splintered from Shiism.

    With the Sunnis, the studying on interpretation closed centuries ago with the four schools. End of story.

    Shiism could theoretically come up with new interpretations.

    Theoretically.

    Replies: @Nico

    The governing council of Iran is still bats*** crazy, but if our hands weren’t tied in a particular paradigm of alliances in the region (don’t make me include round brackets) there is a lot of potential to play off the sentiments of the population, who by most accounts are tired of the same old and itching to emerge as a modern society in the world.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Nico

    Definitely. No ray of hope there. They’re hardcore.

  108. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    Shooting armed carjacker is same as school shooting:

    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,”


    Concealed-carry permit holder flips the script, shoots and kills alleged carjacker
    ...
    A Wisconsin man, using a gun licensed under a concealed-carry permit, shot and killed an alleged carjacker in his company’s parking lot, a city official said.
    ...
    The unidentified employee, 24, had just arrived for work at Milwaukee Machine Tool Corp., shortly before 6 a.m. Monday when a man named Carlos Martin, 21, allegedly attempted to carjack him with a gun, Milwaukee city alderman Cavalier Johnson told ABC News.
    ...
    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,” he said.
    ...
    The Milwaukee Medical Examiner did not immediately respond to ABC News’ requests for results of Martin’s autopsy.
    ...
    Police said the shooter is cooperating with their investigation, after which the Milwaukee District Attorney’s office will review the case and decide whether to bring any charges.

     

    Alternate story title: "World's Worst GTA player"

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Buffalo Joe, @EdwardM

    Hip, armed car jackings have become the go to crime for armed thugs in Chicago and Cleveland. Last week a student leaving St. Ignatius HS in Cleveland, a Jesuit prep school, was car jacked in the school’s fenced parking lot after lacrosse try outs. The car was then listed for sale on Craig’s List. Chicago has an epidemic of jackings. Nothing minor about being confronted by a armed hood who wants your vehicle. A few years ago, in Texas I believe, a thug shot and killed a car owner, in front of the man’s wife and 10 year old daughter, because the man’s car had stick shift and the thug couldn’t drive away.

  109. @ConservaWhig
    @Almost Missouri

    Thomas Sowell has pointed to Europe vs. Africa as an example of how different types and numbers of rivers can promote different levels of liberty/prosperity.

    Replies: @DFH, @Charles Pewitt

    Imagine being that desperate to avoid acknowledging racial differences.

    • Replies: @ConservaWhig
    @DFH


    Imagine being that desperate to avoid acknowledging racial differences.
     
    That may be part of it. But monocausal explanations are generally suboptimal. Smart people are probably going to gravitate to the less obvious explanations regardless of political correctness, since even dumb people can figure out the obvious ones.

    Replies: @DFH

  110. @eah
    @Frau Katze

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Accommodating sexual aberrancy has been a rather slippery slope, wouldn't you say?

    http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/there_are_only_two_genders.jpg

    Replies: @L Woods, @Frau Katze

    One mistake: the symbol in the far upper left should be in both categories.

  111. @Macumazahn
    Islam is, quite simply, incompatible with modern society.

    Replies: @L Woods

    I can’t think of a more succinct endorsement of the Prophet’s followers.

  112. @Travis
    @Anon

    interesting question...hard to separate the history of white people from Christianity...The church also impacted the the genes of whites by banning cousin marriages to destroy the clans which effected white culture. If the church had allowed cousin marriages to continue and not eliminated the clans white people today may well have been less altruistic.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Van Morrison Christian.

    Richard Wagner Christian.

    Thomas Hardy Christian.

    European Christendom is more European than Christian. The pagan streams still run clear and cold as Christianity becomes dry and brittle.

    Christianity is either a fighting faith or it croaks. Christianity has become a surrender cult. Surrender cults don’t do well up against submission cults.

    I am too lazy to read Huntington’s book on geo-political cultural conflict. I am energetic plenty enough and clear-sighted enough to call for the mass deportation of foreigners. A rumour was on the internet that the French Deep State has contingency plans for the mass deportation of foreigners. Macron would do it to save the French ruling class.

    Christianity used to produce Greg Luzinski-type guys with warrior wings who had no problem delivering retaliation to invading Muslims in Europe. Globalization, financialization and anti-White propaganda have done much to destroy European Christendom.

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Charles Pewitt

    I tend to agree but I suspect the Church rules which prohibited marriage to third and fourth cousins changed the nature of Europeans. It certainly destroyed the power of the clans and changed our DNA.

  113. @istevefan
    @Reg Cæsar

    I probably conflated support for human rights with liberty. Looking at it from an English/American perspective, I don't think about human rights. I think of liberty. Maybe the two are related, maybe they are not.

    If I recall, Adam Smith wrote a little about England needing a much smaller standing army than other European nations because it did not have to worry about another nation easily crossing its border like what you had on the continent. So he felt England had more liberty than other Europeans nations, Switzerland excepted.

    Additionally, in the Federalist Papers I think there was a discussion about the benefits of the 13 colonies being one nation because if they were two or more separate nations, they might become more like continental Europe and require larger standing armies as competition among them for land and resources might develop. Likewise liberty would decrease under those conditions.

    I think the English believed that there was a link to small standing armies and liberty, and the need for a small standing army was dependent upon how likely your nation was to be invaded.

    Note, they had no problem with large navies since the sailors presumably would be at sea on ships and would not pose a threat to liberty like soldiers.

    You are right that the Dutch and Danes seem to be high on the human rights scale. But I don't think they have the same concept of liberty that we do.

    I am not too familiar with the Poles. It seems like a nice place, but once again do they have the same conception of liberty that we do?

    Replies: @International Jew, @gunner29

    I am not too familiar with the Poles. It seems like a nice place, but once again do they have the same conception of liberty that we do?

    They have every bit of the same conception of liberty as we do. Especially in the last 100 years, since the germans, russians, and austrians had to leave Poland after WW1. Poland disappeared in 1795, it was part of the surrounding empires. I was watching a TV program about Marie Curie and how she and her family resisted the occupying power; couldn’t speak Polish or know about Polish history. They did.

    Solidarity with Lech Welesa really got rolling about ’81, and was the first crack in the Iron Curtain. Took another 8 years for the whole thing to come crashing down….

    The location of Poland was probably about the worst place to form a country. Crazy russians on one side, crazy krauts on the other, and crazy autrians to the south. Terrible neighborhood.

    No natural barriers, just a bunch of rivers to cross. Drive around the upper midwest to get an idea of how easy it was to invade and how impossible to defend…

  114. @ConservaWhig
    @Almost Missouri

    Thomas Sowell has pointed to Europe vs. Africa as an example of how different types and numbers of rivers can promote different levels of liberty/prosperity.

    Replies: @DFH, @Charles Pewitt

    Thomas Sowell blamed Scotch-Irish plantation overseers and Scotch-Irish cultural norms in general for Black violence and Black riotousness. I am a Euro-Mongrel with a Givens surname in my ancestry. Sowell can go straight to hell.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    @Charles Pewitt

    Denouncing a man's entire body of work because he said something negative about your own people?

    Considering how imitative blacks are of whites, Thomas Sowell can't be that far off. Black slaves and their descendants worship the white man's Jesus even more than the white man does. When marriage used to be a societal norm, blacks in the US had a higher marriage rates than whites. Up until 1970 black women were more likely to marry than white women, 1960 for black men. However, whites started promoting fornication, feminism, and drug use, blacks copied them and suffered greatly for it -- far more than whites. Today, mention to blacks their negative behaviors and the first thing out of their mouths will be, "Well, whites do it too".

    Replies: @DFH

  115. @The Z Blog
    When you think about about, sharia is all about forcing you to be free, as a devout Muslim following the edicts of the local Imam, who is probably illiterate. It makes perfect sense when you think about and just shut up.

    In not so long, we're going to loom like Ireland during the troubles. The locals will be in revolt against their foreign masters.

    Replies: @Louis Renault, @nebulafox, @36 ulster

    To WHICH Irish troubles do you refer, Z? There seem to have been so damned many of them, from time immemorial.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @36 ulster

    Irish! Irish! I rish I were a Chinaman so I wouldn't have this damn Irish Curse!

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @36 ulster


    To WHICH Irish troubles do you refer, Z? There seem to have been so damned many of them, from time immemorial
     
    I missed a talk at a very traditional Catholic church tonight. The subject was "The Polish Resistance". I'm still wondering to which resistance it refers-- vs the CPSU, the NDSAP, the EU? There are so many to choose from.

    Poland doesn't have resistances. Poland is resistance.
  116. @Nico
    @Frau Katze

    The governing council of Iran is still bats*** crazy, but if our hands weren’t tied in a particular paradigm of alliances in the region (don’t make me include round brackets) there is a lot of potential to play off the sentiments of the population, who by most accounts are tired of the same old and itching to emerge as a modern society in the world.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Definitely. No ray of hope there. They’re hardcore.

  117. @eah
    @Frau Katze

    I’m willing to use the pronoun that matches the appearance of the person.

    Accommodating sexual aberrancy has been a rather slippery slope, wouldn't you say?

    http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/there_are_only_two_genders.jpg

    Replies: @L Woods, @Frau Katze

    What I meant was he or she. nothing else. Maybe “it”.

    • Replies: @eah
    @Frau Katze

    he or she. nothing else

    Liebe Frau Katze, you seem a bit unclear on the concept of a slippery slope -- go ahead, use "she" or "her" to talk about Bruce Jenner -- go ahead, I dare you -- "LOL".

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXBrHlEWkAI0M8z.jpg

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Frau Katze

  118. While we’re on the subject of Muslims and Christians, Snowden NSA intercepts reveal that the NSA tried to recruit Arab-speakers from a jobs fair in Dearborn, but few passed vetting.

    “NSA Trusts Few Arabic-Speaking Americans It Finds at Detroit Job Fair”

    Although we should remember that all of us would probably fail vetting simply by virtue of being iSteve readers.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @YetAnotherAnon

    So that's why we all hide behind pseudonyms.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @YetAnotherAnon

  119. @Tiny Duck Farts
    The USA literally has the worst human rights record in history thanks to Blonald Blumph!

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Currahee

    hi Tiny!
    where would you most like to live (Wakanda off table)?

  120. In the land of Fake News, we have Fake Education and Fake Grades.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-01/dc-high-school-graduation-rate-plummet-73-42-after-massive-fraud-revealed

    We need Wakanda High that serves lunches rich in vibranium. That will make black students do their homework and all head to Harvard.

  121. Were the Romans more or less charitable after their old gods were replaced by their new gods?

    Is it the People or their Gods?

  122. @Samuel Skinner
    @Almost Missouri

    Japan's interior is filled with mountain ranges; they are not like Britain.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Right, but everyone lives close to the sea, so even when the interior is mountainous, it is also shallow and easily circumnavigated.

  123. @Tiny Duck
    As long as white men have institutional power anywhere the world will be have no real freedoms and human rights

    Replies: @fish

    Ohs Tinys….you’n hab teh freedum to do’s all teh things I lak U to be doin wit dat purty whyte Mouf o urs!

    Lebsnerd “sho be likin his Tinys skilz” Pizzipty

  124. @36 ulster
    @The Z Blog

    To WHICH Irish troubles do you refer, Z? There seem to have been so damned many of them, from time immemorial.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Reg Cæsar

    Irish! Irish! I rish I were a Chinaman so I wouldn’t have this damn Irish Curse!

  125. @Logan
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Netherlands fought off the greatest power in the world for 80 years to win its independence. Later did the same with the French, the greatest power in Europe at the time.

    It wasn't easy at all to invade.

    Replies: @Coag

    Those days are long gone. The Islamification of the Netherlands is coming along quite well. The Dutch are really taking their 80 year war era motto to heart these days, “Better the Turk than the Pope”.

  126. @Curtis Mouser I
    @rogue-one

    3 The sooner White beta males realize society is structured against them & give up, the better. Civilizational collapse would ensue, increasing our value.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    This sounds as likely as the strike by “men of the mind” that Ayn Rand envisions in Atlas Shrugged.

  127. @Lars Porsena
    @songbird

    Before it was unified it was the Holy Roman Empire for a thousand years. Who invaded that? Napoleon was the only one since Charlemagne. Germany has endured more foreign occupation since unification than before.

    Replies: @dearieme

    “Who invaded that? Napoleon was the only one since Charlemagne.” Oh balls. Did the Thirty Years War never happen? Did Louis XIV never live?

  128. @Buffalo Joe
    @Hubbub

    Hub, a few years ago, a member of the Canadian Human Rights commission said that "Free Speech " is an American concept, that doesn't apply in Canada. The nation directly to our north has different laws concerning freedom of speech and they can be quite restrictive. I believe Mark Steyn was charged in Canada with hate speech against Muslims for saying something that is acceptable, under the law, in the USA.

    Replies: @dearieme

    It would probably more accurate to say that the American concept of “Free Speech ” relates only to government interference in speech.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @dearieme

    dearime, Ok, thank you, I stand corrected.

  129. Anonymous [AKA "Your Human Right to Simulated Live Burial"] says:

    isteve can’t handle anybody with a different kind of needlin than his, huh?

  130. OFF TOPIC

    Larry Kudlow, baby boomer doper and open borders free trade advocate, is upset that President Trump is going to protect US sovereignty by placing protective tariffs on nations that cheat the USA. Larry Kudlow also supports open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Kudlow appears on TV to attack the patriotic Trump tariffs:

  131. @Roderick Spode
    The Human Rights movement of the last hundred years is little more than another symptom of growing white ethnomasochism.

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool

    Human rights is a social construct, a fragile one.

  132. @Charles Pewitt
    @ConservaWhig

    Thomas Sowell blamed Scotch-Irish plantation overseers and Scotch-Irish cultural norms in general for Black violence and Black riotousness. I am a Euro-Mongrel with a Givens surname in my ancestry. Sowell can go straight to hell.

    Replies: @Triumph104

    Denouncing a man’s entire body of work because he said something negative about your own people?

    Considering how imitative blacks are of whites, Thomas Sowell can’t be that far off. Black slaves and their descendants worship the white man’s Jesus even more than the white man does. When marriage used to be a societal norm, blacks in the US had a higher marriage rates than whites. Up until 1970 black women were more likely to marry than white women, 1960 for black men. However, whites started promoting fornication, feminism, and drug use, blacks copied them and suffered greatly for it — far more than whites. Today, mention to blacks their negative behaviors and the first thing out of their mouths will be, “Well, whites do it too”.

    • Replies: @DFH
    @Triumph104

    Black illegitimacy rates were always more than double that of whites and they obviously always committed far more crime.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure#/media/File:Nonmarital_Birth_Rates_in_the_United_States,_1940-2014.png


    However, whites started promoting fornication, feminism, and drug use, blacks copied them and suffered greatly for it — far more than whites.
     
    (((whites)))) promoted them, but that's not really the issue here. Fornication, matriachal household organisation and high-risk, low-time preference behaviour (drug use) at high rates are how blacks behave apart from white influence in West Africa. It's not something that they need to copy from white people to do.

    Today, mention to blacks their negative behaviors and the first thing out of their mouths will be, “Well, whites do it too”.
     
    True, American blacks do always blame white people for their problems.
  133. @Triumph104
    @Charles Pewitt

    Denouncing a man's entire body of work because he said something negative about your own people?

    Considering how imitative blacks are of whites, Thomas Sowell can't be that far off. Black slaves and their descendants worship the white man's Jesus even more than the white man does. When marriage used to be a societal norm, blacks in the US had a higher marriage rates than whites. Up until 1970 black women were more likely to marry than white women, 1960 for black men. However, whites started promoting fornication, feminism, and drug use, blacks copied them and suffered greatly for it -- far more than whites. Today, mention to blacks their negative behaviors and the first thing out of their mouths will be, "Well, whites do it too".

    Replies: @DFH

    Black illegitimacy rates were always more than double that of whites and they obviously always committed far more crime.

    However, whites started promoting fornication, feminism, and drug use, blacks copied them and suffered greatly for it — far more than whites.

    (((whites)))) promoted them, but that’s not really the issue here. Fornication, matriachal household organisation and high-risk, low-time preference behaviour (drug use) at high rates are how blacks behave apart from white influence in West Africa. It’s not something that they need to copy from white people to do.

    Today, mention to blacks their negative behaviors and the first thing out of their mouths will be, “Well, whites do it too”.

    True, American blacks do always blame white people for their problems.

  134. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks must be white-supremacist. They hate living with other blacks in their own nations. They feel life will improve only by moving to white nations and living with whites.

    But this is spun as ‘diversity is good for whites’ when the real logic is ‘whites are good for blacks.’

    Non-whites all believe whites are good for them. White nations, white rule of law, white wealth, white enterprise, white institutions, etc. But they are too ashamed to admit they prefer whites over their own kind, and so, they invoke the ‘gift’ of Diversity to make it seem as though they are doing a favor to whites by offering Diversity when, in fact, they want whites to offer them free gibs.

  135. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    In CITIZEN KANE, the tycoon grows emptier in soul and builds Xanudu, and he tries to fill his emptiness with more and more acquisitions from around the world. He’s no longer interested in things in themselves, only in the getting of more and more things.

    And current elites see the US as their Xanudu. Keep bringing in more hordes to hoard.

  136. @dearieme
    @Buffalo Joe

    It would probably more accurate to say that the American concept of “Free Speech ” relates only to government interference in speech.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    dearime, Ok, thank you, I stand corrected.

  137. @TTSSYF
    @Frau Katze

    I'm sure they don't, but just because he/she is deceiving himself/herself doesn't mean the rest of us have to play along. I'll avoid pronouns altogether with such individuals. Bruce Jenner can have breast implants, plastic surgery on his face, and wear as many different sequined evening gowns he wants, but he still has a schlong, and every cell in his body is screaming XY. Why should we have to pretend otherwise and admire this emperor's new clothes? He's just a man in a dress with a sexual fetish that includes no small measure of exhibitionism. Likewise for the vast majority of transsexuals who, in our sick society, can find doctors to indulge their pursuit of unicorns. In all but the rarest of cases, it is, in my opinion, medical malpractice and abuse of scarce medical resources, and when it involves underage children, outright child abuse.

    Replies: @fish, @SimpleSong

    One of the most disgusting things about all this is that the sex change operations are for the most part paid for by insurance; next time you pay your insurance premium remember that some of that will go towards choppin’ off the man bits.

    Several years ago I worked at a hospital where we were not allowed to use cutting edge equipment or drugs because it cost too much. But we also did a lot of sex change operations paid for by insurance. Big picture, if insurance didn’t cover things like sex changes maybe they could have spared a few more bucks for the routine appendectomies and other surgeries that we did, and we could actually have equipment that wasn’t constantly broken. Or maybe they could reduce premiums a bit. Or cover more people. But nope! As a society we wanted sex changes.

  138. White supremacy has always been linked to fidelity to the teachings of Christ and the enemies of Christ know it.

  139. @eah
    @eah

    https://twitter.com/Millenniel_Matt/status/969288328955813894

    Replies: @eah

  140. This is the the reference for the Rindermann article. So far it has not shown up at the link where I usually get copies of journal articles:

    http://booksandjournals.brillonline.com/content/journals/10.1163/15691330-12341451

  141. @YetAnotherAnon
    While we're on the subject of Muslims and Christians, Snowden NSA intercepts reveal that the NSA tried to recruit Arab-speakers from a jobs fair in Dearborn, but few passed vetting.

    "NSA Trusts Few Arabic-Speaking Americans It Finds at Detroit Job Fair"

    Although we should remember that all of us would probably fail vetting simply by virtue of being iSteve readers.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Joe Stalin


    So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms
     
    Yes, but why choose one belonging to a figure who, among other sins, was a good friend of Franklin Roosevelt?

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @Anonymous
    @Joe Stalin


    So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms.
     
    SubjName="Joe Stalin"
    print NSADoxx(SubjName)

    =>: Leo Trotsky

    I KNEW IT!

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Joe Stalin

    "So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms."

    That's fine if you're avoiding death by SJW, but I doubt it'll stop NSA and I know it won't stop GCHQ.

    ISPs in the UK are obliged by law to keep 6 months worth of internet history, and I assume that if I wanted a job there, that would be one of the first things they'd check - "what does this guy (or his household) look at?". I suppose you could make their job harder with a proxy service or TOR.

    Quite often now UK court cases hear prosecution evidence of the defendant's Google searches for "how to poison someone" or "how to dispose of a body".

    Here we see a 2018 trial in which evidence of a defendant's google use in April 2016 is prosecution evidence.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-43202173

    "the court also heard the mother had googled the amount of salt it is safe for a toddler to eat the day before"

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  142. @rogue-one
    @Reg Cæsar

    1. Google & Youtube have attained a monopoly status. You don't need to work 12 hours a day anymore. Some of my friends at google have had periods of several months where they basically did nothing.

    2. Women & minorities are a protected class. They won't be fired for H1Bs. Rather, they would some sort of part-time gig at Google/Youtube. On the other hand, white guys (& perhaps asians too) are disposable.

    3. This illustrates the core dilemma of our times. Young men, often white or asian, build valuable things like companies. However, once these companies are functioning well, politically savvy "victimhood" groups like women and minorities take over a major portion of the company and its money pushing out the the kinds of people who actually built the thing. I have no doubt that if things go bad, these political opportunists would bail rather than try & fix things.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Curtis Mouser I, @Reg Cæsar

    Some of my friends at google have had periods of several months where they basically did nothing

    Wally lives!

    http://lazyway.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341dc0af53ef014e86d85a6b970d-pi

    A friend who spent a year teaching in Japan says that nothing really gets done in the last third or so of those twelve-hour shifts. Staying late is just virtue-signalling, Japan-style.

  143. @36 ulster
    @The Z Blog

    To WHICH Irish troubles do you refer, Z? There seem to have been so damned many of them, from time immemorial.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Reg Cæsar

    To WHICH Irish troubles do you refer, Z? There seem to have been so damned many of them, from time immemorial

    I missed a talk at a very traditional Catholic church tonight. The subject was “The Polish Resistance”. I’m still wondering to which resistance it refers– vs the CPSU, the NDSAP, the EU? There are so many to choose from.

    Poland doesn’t have resistances. Poland is resistance.

  144. @Rod1963
    @Reg Cæsar

    The average drone at Google only works there for little over a year before quitting. When you factor in the cost of living where Google is situated, you realize a six figure income gets you squat for a decent place to live and you're forced to commute as well. That may explain why people don't stay.

    The sad thing is these people could make the same amount working for the state of CA or most cities and have better working conditions and benefits.

    Replies: @Doug, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar

  145. @DFH
    @ConservaWhig

    Imagine being that desperate to avoid acknowledging racial differences.

    Replies: @ConservaWhig

    Imagine being that desperate to avoid acknowledging racial differences.

    That may be part of it. But monocausal explanations are generally suboptimal. Smart people are probably going to gravitate to the less obvious explanations regardless of political correctness, since even dumb people can figure out the obvious ones.

    • Replies: @DFH
    @ConservaWhig

    Thomas Sowell's entire work on white-black differences is an attempt to avoid the obvious explanation. That's not 'smart' it's cowardly.

  146. @Joe Stalin
    @YetAnotherAnon

    So that's why we all hide behind pseudonyms.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @YetAnotherAnon

    So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms

    Yes, but why choose one belonging to a figure who, among other sins, was a good friend of Franklin Roosevelt?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar

    How many degrees of separation do I have from FDR? One my siblings knew physicist Robert J. Moon, who signed the letter with Einstein to warn about possibility of the atomic bomb. Don't know if he ever talked to FDR, but he did talk to Winston Churchill.

  147. @Joe Stalin
    @YetAnotherAnon

    So that's why we all hide behind pseudonyms.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @YetAnotherAnon

    So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms.

    SubjName=”Joe Stalin”
    print NSADoxx(SubjName)

    =>: Leo Trotsky

    I KNEW IT!

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Anonymous

    My Chicago Alderman Leon Depres (Democrat) actually KNEW Leon Trotsky!

    One degree of seperation; not bad, huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrVnGMyeQY

  148. @ConservaWhig
    @DFH


    Imagine being that desperate to avoid acknowledging racial differences.
     
    That may be part of it. But monocausal explanations are generally suboptimal. Smart people are probably going to gravitate to the less obvious explanations regardless of political correctness, since even dumb people can figure out the obvious ones.

    Replies: @DFH

    Thomas Sowell’s entire work on white-black differences is an attempt to avoid the obvious explanation. That’s not ‘smart’ it’s cowardly.

  149. @Anonymous
    @Art Deco

    Two facts which I just cannot stand:

    1/. 'Amnesty International' is mainly funded by UK taxpayers, whose money is appropriated whether they agree with AI's many odious positions or not.
    2/. The 'Chief Executive' of Amnesty International pays himself a ridiculously huge salary - paid from the money which fools voluntarily donate, in the understanding the money's going to 'help the cause' or else is forcefully taken from taxpayers.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Amnesty International is substantially funded by the UK government.

    Therefore it is compromised and cannot be trusted.

  150. @Frau Katze
    @eah

    What I meant was he or she. nothing else. Maybe “it”.

    Replies: @eah

    he or she. nothing else

    Liebe Frau Katze, you seem a bit unclear on the concept of a slippery slope — go ahead, use “she” or “her” to talk about Bruce Jenner — go ahead, I dare you — “LOL”.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @eah

    Mel at 62 seems to be ageing better than Bruce at 68.

    , @Frau Katze
    @eah

    I see your point. Good grief!

  151. @Anonymous
    @Joe Stalin


    So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms.
     
    SubjName="Joe Stalin"
    print NSADoxx(SubjName)

    =>: Leo Trotsky

    I KNEW IT!

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    My Chicago Alderman Leon Depres (Democrat) actually KNEW Leon Trotsky!

    One degree of seperation; not bad, huh?

  152. @Charles Pewitt
    @Travis

    Van Morrison Christian.

    Richard Wagner Christian.

    Thomas Hardy Christian.

    European Christendom is more European than Christian. The pagan streams still run clear and cold as Christianity becomes dry and brittle.

    Christianity is either a fighting faith or it croaks. Christianity has become a surrender cult. Surrender cults don't do well up against submission cults.

    I am too lazy to read Huntington's book on geo-political cultural conflict. I am energetic plenty enough and clear-sighted enough to call for the mass deportation of foreigners. A rumour was on the internet that the French Deep State has contingency plans for the mass deportation of foreigners. Macron would do it to save the French ruling class.

    Christianity used to produce Greg Luzinski-type guys with warrior wings who had no problem delivering retaliation to invading Muslims in Europe. Globalization, financialization and anti-White propaganda have done much to destroy European Christendom.

    Replies: @Travis

    I tend to agree but I suspect the Church rules which prohibited marriage to third and fourth cousins changed the nature of Europeans. It certainly destroyed the power of the clans and changed our DNA.

  153. @Reg Cæsar
    @Joe Stalin


    So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms
     
    Yes, but why choose one belonging to a figure who, among other sins, was a good friend of Franklin Roosevelt?

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    How many degrees of separation do I have from FDR? One my siblings knew physicist Robert J. Moon, who signed the letter with Einstein to warn about possibility of the atomic bomb. Don’t know if he ever talked to FDR, but he did talk to Winston Churchill.

  154. @Joe Stalin
    @YetAnotherAnon

    So that's why we all hide behind pseudonyms.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @YetAnotherAnon

    “So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms.”

    That’s fine if you’re avoiding death by SJW, but I doubt it’ll stop NSA and I know it won’t stop GCHQ.

    ISPs in the UK are obliged by law to keep 6 months worth of internet history, and I assume that if I wanted a job there, that would be one of the first things they’d check – “what does this guy (or his household) look at?“. I suppose you could make their job harder with a proxy service or TOR.

    Quite often now UK court cases hear prosecution evidence of the defendant’s Google searches for “how to poison someone” or “how to dispose of a body”.

    Here we see a 2018 trial in which evidence of a defendant’s google use in April 2016 is prosecution evidence.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-43202173

    “the court also heard the mother had googled the amount of salt it is safe for a toddler to eat the day before”

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Do people in the UK consider themselves "free" in a free speech context?

    Do people ever clamor for gun rights? Privacy? Freedom to insult other races, religions, ethnic groups?
    Self-defense tools?

    Normal things we take for granted in America?

    Is America going to be "The Last Stand" for this stuff?

  155. @Bardon Kaldian
    @nebulafox


    One of the interesting differences between Sunni and Shi’a Islam, from my limited understanding, is that the former is a lot more decentralized. Shi’a Islam, on the other hand, has a very organized, hierarchial structure of mullahs and imams who are the only ones authorized to give fatwas-and becoming one takes decades of training, not too dissimilar from how entering the hierarchy of the Catholic Church would have been many centuries ago.
     
    You got that right. Some Bahais have observed this, too: http://bahaiforums.com/interfaith/2708-shiite-islam-catholic-christianity.html

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    The Shias also have in common that their Moharram observances involve carrying replicas of the tombs of the martyrs around the town, while beating the breast or worse and chanting “Ya Hassan!”. Bit like carrying Our Lady’s statue round a Spanish town singing a ‘saeta’ to her at every stop.

  156. @eah
    @Frau Katze

    he or she. nothing else

    Liebe Frau Katze, you seem a bit unclear on the concept of a slippery slope -- go ahead, use "she" or "her" to talk about Bruce Jenner -- go ahead, I dare you -- "LOL".

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXBrHlEWkAI0M8z.jpg

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Frau Katze

    Mel at 62 seems to be ageing better than Bruce at 68.

  157. @eah
    @Frau Katze

    he or she. nothing else

    Liebe Frau Katze, you seem a bit unclear on the concept of a slippery slope -- go ahead, use "she" or "her" to talk about Bruce Jenner -- go ahead, I dare you -- "LOL".

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXBrHlEWkAI0M8z.jpg

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Frau Katze

    I see your point. Good grief!

  158. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Joe Stalin

    "So that’s why we all hide behind pseudonyms."

    That's fine if you're avoiding death by SJW, but I doubt it'll stop NSA and I know it won't stop GCHQ.

    ISPs in the UK are obliged by law to keep 6 months worth of internet history, and I assume that if I wanted a job there, that would be one of the first things they'd check - "what does this guy (or his household) look at?". I suppose you could make their job harder with a proxy service or TOR.

    Quite often now UK court cases hear prosecution evidence of the defendant's Google searches for "how to poison someone" or "how to dispose of a body".

    Here we see a 2018 trial in which evidence of a defendant's google use in April 2016 is prosecution evidence.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-43202173

    "the court also heard the mother had googled the amount of salt it is safe for a toddler to eat the day before"

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Do people in the UK consider themselves “free” in a free speech context?

    Do people ever clamor for gun rights? Privacy? Freedom to insult other races, religions, ethnic groups?
    Self-defense tools?

    Normal things we take for granted in America?

    Is America going to be “The Last Stand” for this stuff?

  159. “Do people in the UK consider themselves “free” in a free speech context?”

    Not any more. “It’s a free country” used to be a common expression, you don’t hear it now.

    Gun rights have been eroded over the last century (no restrictions before WW1), pistols banned after a dodgy guy who the police had been warned about on many occasions shot a load of kids in Dunblane, Scotland some 25 years back. Police and establishment closed ranks on why he’d been given a license for four handguns, but were happy to ban all handguns. Now only the police and inner city gangsters have them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre#Criticism_of_the_authorities


    “Freedom to insult other races, religions, ethnic groups?”

    No, unless they’re white.

    “Is America going to be “The Last Stand” for this stuff?”

    I think so. Defend the Constitution.

  160. @Verymuchalive
    @Almost Missouri


    In Russia, by contrast, the rivers do not connect, and they flow not out into the global waterways but into the frozen arctic. The trans-Siberian rail and highway do run like threads along southern Russia, but they are just threads, with nothing like the carrying capacity of the US network. Under this view, Russia could only connect and develop securely under powerful central authority.
     
    The vast majority of European Russia drains southwards to the Caspian ( Volga ) or Black Sea ( Don ). I won't even mention the Dnieper ( apologies to AK ).
    Like the Mississippi, the Volga has a vast number of tributaries and sub-tributaries. Indeed, Moscow stands on one, the River Moskva. There are numerous canals also, which connect the Volga and Don, Lake Ladoga and elsewhere. Thus it is possible to transfer freight by boat from Saint Petersburg to Rostov-on-Don or Astrakhan. Like Germany, Russia moves a lot of freight by river and canal. The season is shorter - 9 to 10 months maximum, but it is still very important.
    The Siberian rivers flow to the Arctic Ocean. In the south, they are frozen much of the year. At their mouths, they are frozen MOST of the year. Not very useful for navigation. But only 10 million live in Siberia, largely towards the south. The vast majority of Russians still live in European Russia, so Siberia is unimportant, except for oil and mineral deposits.
    The trans-Siberian rail and highway do NOT run like threads through southern Russia. They connect Moscow, Siberia and the Russian Far East. They connect the dynamo ( European Russia ) to its sources of raw materials.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Yes the only river in Russia that flows under Russian sovereignty into the global ocean is the Don. Unfortunately for Russia, it flows into the Sea of Azov, which flows into the Black Sea, which connects via the Dardanelles to the Mediterranean. At each of these stages, trade, transport and naval sallies are subject to interdiction by the global maritime hegemon (Ottomans & Britain in the past, US in the present, China(?) in the future), especially at the Dardanelles, Gibraltar and Suez. The Ottomans and the British have closed the Dardanelles at will during past conflicts.

    And agree that the Trans Siberian transportation carries nothing like the capacity of the US system.

  161. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    Shooting armed carjacker is same as school shooting:

    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,”


    Concealed-carry permit holder flips the script, shoots and kills alleged carjacker
    ...
    A Wisconsin man, using a gun licensed under a concealed-carry permit, shot and killed an alleged carjacker in his company’s parking lot, a city official said.
    ...
    The unidentified employee, 24, had just arrived for work at Milwaukee Machine Tool Corp., shortly before 6 a.m. Monday when a man named Carlos Martin, 21, allegedly attempted to carjack him with a gun, Milwaukee city alderman Cavalier Johnson told ABC News.
    ...
    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,” he said.
    ...
    The Milwaukee Medical Examiner did not immediately respond to ABC News’ requests for results of Martin’s autopsy.
    ...
    Police said the shooter is cooperating with their investigation, after which the Milwaukee District Attorney’s office will review the case and decide whether to bring any charges.

     

    Alternate story title: "World's Worst GTA player"

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Buffalo Joe, @EdwardM

    “I think that whether it is mass shootings or what we have here, the root cause is trying to make sure that people who shouldn’t have guns don’t have them in the first place,”

    Brilliant! So, since we know nothing about the perp (at least from the article; perhaps the esteemed Alderman knows something that we don’t), what he means by “people who shouldn’t have guns” who therefore “don’t have them in the first place” is people who will eventually use their guns in a crime. That used to be called a tautology, or perhaps just a non sequitur.

    Still, a pretty fair treatment of the case, including a useful and accurate quote from the world of concealed carry (“While people who have concealed-carry permits are trained to deal with the consequences of taking a life, that’s never the intent, according to concealed-carry permit trainer and gun expert Dean Hazen of Urbana, Illinois.’”)

    Though it would have been helpful if they got the police on record to at least confirm that in fact the alleged carjacker’s gun was found at the scene. I suppose if it wasn’t, then the story would have been quite different given that the alleged perp was named Carlos.

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