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From the New York Times:

Why Was Vicha Ratanapakdee Killed?

He was the elderly Oriental man who died in San Francisco when a black youth blitzed him from across the street last winter, which set off a period of concern about violence against old Asians, which diminished as it became apparent what race made up the majority of attackers.

His death helped awaken the nation to a rise in anti-Asian violence. For his grieving family, the reckoning hasn’t gone far enough.

By Jaeah Lee
Published Aug. 17, 2021

For weeks, Monthanus Ratanapakdee urged her parents to please. stay inside. An uneasiness had hung over her ever since a mob descended on the Capitol early that month

Good start!

, though really, people had been acting crazy for a year. Throughout 2020, multiple strangers had come at her seemingly out of nowhere.

Strangers are obviously white. After all, whites make up the vast majority of the population in San Francisco.

That January, an old man yelled at her in Golden Gate Park — something about a virus and going back to her country — while she watched her sons, then 10 and 7, run in a playground. In February, two joggers, women, yelled something about germs at her older son as he played on a dock with a friend. In March, just before the country went into lockdown, a woman swung at Monthanus outside a hospital; she ducked the punch before running across the street. In November, another old man spat in her direction as her sons rode their scooters by the bay.

Obviously, Trump’s fault for talking about the China virus. After all, nobody ever heard of mentally ill people on the streets of San Francisco before.

When Monthanus talked about these incidents, how the outside world didn’t feel safe anymore, her father would ask, Is it really that bad? A petite 84-year-old with soft white hair, Vicha Ratanapakdee was a lifelong Buddhist, the kind of person who embraced the world with open arms.

… The footage is grainy and brief: A tall figure suddenly darts across a street and slams into a much smaller one; the smaller figure crumples onto the pavement and doesn’t get back up; the white baseball cap flutters to the ground, like a leaf falling from a tree.

Finally, in the 12th long paragraph, the author gets around to mentioning in passing the race of the killer:

Shortly after Vicha was pronounced dead, Monthanus’s phone rang. A homicide detective gave his condolences and said they were planning to charge the attack as a murder. Why would you call me when my father just died? Monthanus wondered at first, her mind thick with shock. She had learned small details about the suspect from her initial conversations with the police: male, 19 years old, African American.

But then back to racism, racism, racism:

Months before the country went into lockdown, Russell Jeung, a professor of Asian American studies at San Francisco State University, came down with a bad case of the flu. … But Jeung grew wary when a doctor asked him if he had recently been to China, and again when he learned that his relatives had been marooned at a hotel near the airport after being told they couldn’t board their flight back home. “Knowing what happened with SARS, how Asians were going to get shunned, harassed,” he says, referring to the 2003 outbreak, “I was just personally and sociologically alerted to racism.”

Jeung set up search alerts for “Asian American” and “discrimination.” The results confirmed his fears. In the United States and elsewhere, private schools asked their Chinese international students not to return for the spring semester; shopkeepers turned away customers who appeared Asian; Chinatowns emptied. In late January 2020, a man died outside a restaurant in Sydney after collapsing from a heart attack. “No one helped him because they thought he had Covid,” Jeung says. After reading about an Asian American teenager in the Los Angeles area who was hospitalized in February after being bullied about Covid, Jeung contacted colleagues at two advocacy groups in California. They asked the state attorney general’s office to help them track what they believed to be a growing number of episodes. “They said they didn’t have the capacity to track racism,” Jeung says. “So we created our own website.” (The California attorney general’s office collects data on hate crimes in the state but not other cases involving verbal harassment, for example, which often don’t constitute crimes.)

Within one week of the website’s start, Stop AAPI Hate received 673 reports of verbal and physical attacks, as well as other forms of harassment, like spitting, coughing and online threats. The submissions came from 31 states and the District of Columbia, with nearly half the reports originating in California and New York. “Even without much publicity, we have already received a strong response from the community, who want their voices heard,” Jeung wrote in the group’s first report. The number of submissions grew steadily throughout the year, reaching a total of 2,800 by the end of 2020. Then the flood came.

Two days after Vicha died, Eric created a GoFundMe page to raise money for the funeral, which included a photo of Vicha and a description of his assailant derived from a mix of facts and raw emotion: “A despicable 19-year-old thug that came to his neighborhood in a stolen vehicle and decided to prove how tough he was by brutalizing a senior citizen,” Eric wrote. “Now that Mr. Vicha Ratanapakdee has died of his injuries, prosecution for this murderous hate crime is the only path to justice and community safety.” Later, as more information trickled in, Eric changed “stolen vehicle” to “a car disabled by an earlier hit-and-run”; he also replaced “thug” with “adult male,” after watching an episode of “S.W.A.T.” in which a Black cop explained the word’s racist undertones to his partner. Eric, who grew up near San Jose, described himself as someone who never thought much about race during his upbringing. (His mother is Mexican, and he identifies as mixed race; strangers often assume he is white.)

He’s heartily sorry about racistly mischaracterizing the guy who murdered his father-in-law as a “thug.”

The next morning, Eric called the tip lines for several local news stations and left messages for reporters, inviting them to the Hall of Justice, where he and Monthanus were scheduled to meet with homicide detectives. That afternoon, the couple taped their first interview, with the KTVU reporter Evan Sernoffsky, near the courthouse steps. The segment ran with Vicha’s photo and the headline “Family of 84-Year-Old Killed in S.F. Believe Attack Was Racially Motivated.”

Vicha’s story joined a cluster of reports about attacks on Asian elders in four cities. Amanda Nguyen, a prominent activist, shared Sernoffsky’s report in a viral Instagram video, along with two others, one about a 64-year-old Vietnamese woman who was robbed in San Jose and another about a 61-year-old Filipino man whose face was slashed with a box cutter on the New York subway. “The mainstream media does not spotlight our stories enough,” Nguyen said into the camera, urging her vast following to share the story and tag CNN and MSNBC. “We matter, and racism is killing us.” When a video emerged showing a 91-year-old shoved to the ground in Chinatown in Oakland, Calif., the actors Daniel Dae Kim and Daniel Wu posted a \$25,000 reward for anyone who had more information on the suspect, tweeting, “Remember Vincent Chin,” who was beaten to death by two white men in Detroit in 1982.

Vincent Chin is the Emmett Till of Asians.

… Then, on March 16, a white gunman in the Atlanta area drove to several businesses and shot eight people to death. It was the deadliest mass shooting in the country in more than a year. Six of the victims — two women of Chinese descent, four women of Korean descent — worked at the businesses targeted by the gunman, an unequivocal sign for many of those watching that he acted out of hatred, misogyny and racism.

… In March, Jeung says, Stop AAPI Hate received roughly 2,800 reports, about the same number he received in all of 2020. “We don’t know how to attribute this rise in reporting,” he told me. He believes that the attacks on the elderly and the Atlanta shootings led more people to file reports. But he also suspects that the numbers reflect an animus that only deepened during lockdown. “It’s been a year of pent-up anger and frustration directed toward Asians,” he says. “There’s been a half-million deaths. People are grieving. I think a lot of that grief and anger and scapegoating continues to be directed toward Asians.”

Or blacks have been committing far more violent crimes and getting themselves killed in car crashes much more ever since the Racial Reckoning was declared.

New images have continued to surface on a weekly, sometimes daily, basis. Some assailants have yelled slurs while throwing a punch or slashing at their victims with a knife. Others have injured or killed people without saying a word. These stories have prompted continuous news coverage and social-media obsession, and beneath it all there lurks a desire to understand what is driving the attacks — and how, exactly, race is playing a role.

The day after Monthanus and Eric’s first TV appearance, San Francisco’s district attorney charged Antoine Watson, the 19-year-old accused of shoving Vicha to death, with murder and elder abuse. Watson, the court documents state, had been cited for “reckless driving, speeding and failure to stop at a stop sign” in the hours before the attack. One witness at the scene told officers that he saw “a Black male, 18 to 30 years old,” approach and “stand over” an elderly man lying on the ground. Another witness said he heard a voice yelling: “Why you looking at me? Why you looking at me?” and then “a crushing sound.”

Watson pleaded not guilty. His public defender, Sliman Nawabi, challenged the murder charge, arguing that Watson did not intend to kill Vicha. Nawabi described the incident as an “impulsive unmotivated assault” that resulted from the mental-health breakdown of a teenager. He told me that Watson lost his job and support structure during the pandemic; in addition to attending college classes and working at FedEx, he had previously gone to therapy and taken medication. At Watson’s bail hearing, Nawabi said he recognized “the racial overtones” of the case, but added, “This false narrative that this is a targeted attack on the Asian community or an elderly man is misleading and prejudicial.” He asked the court to order a neuropsychological evaluation and proposed releasing Watson to home confinement, where his family could look after him, along with requiring therapy and counseling, so that Watson wouldn’t become “another statistic in the criminal-justice world.”

… That week, on Feb. 4, the couple spoke with San Francisco’s district attorney, Chesa Boudin, on a call. A former public defender, Boudin was part of a new wave of progressive prosecutors who entered office the year before with the promise of reform. Monthanus and Eric voted for him. Now they wanted action. “We were like, ‘Is this a hate crime?’ He was like, ‘I can’t talk about this,’” Eric says. “It was just the way that he answered the question that made me feel like he didn’t really care about our emotions, about what we were asking about.”

Boudin, who couldn’t discuss the particulars of the case, understood where Eric and Monthanus were coming from. “Any time a family suffers a violent crime, a homicide in particular, there’s questions,” Boudin told me. “Why did this happen? How could it have been prevented? Often, the natural human response is to want someone to blame for the pain that you’re experiencing.”

Such as the murderer.

 
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  1. “Any time a family suffers a violent crime, a homicide in particular, there’s questions,” Boudin told me. “Why did this happen? How could it have been prevented? Often, the natural human response is to want someone to blame for the pain that you’re experiencing.”

    Like, for instance, the family of the 2 cops and security guard murdered by Chesa Boudin’s parents’ gang. Or the family of the state trooper murdered by his namesake, Joanne Chesimard aka Assata Shakur. It’s complicated, but not really.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Don’t forget 1 San Francisco cop murdered and one blinded when Boudin’s adopted mother, Bernadette Dohrn bombed Park Police Station.

    Dorhn used her prison time to get a mail order law degree. She can’t be licensed to practice law admitted to the bar in Illinois because if her extensive felony record But as soon as she was released from prison she became a law professor at Illinois’ most prestigious university Northwestern A year or 2 later she was relieved of the arduous duty of teaching and became highly paid executive director of some Children’s Civil Rights institution at Northwestern law school.

    Of course her father in law was a trustee of Northwestern. a military contractor and one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the state. There are hundreds of Children’s Legal Aid Foundations. They were formed to impose black thuggery bullying and crime on public schools. Then turned turned to lowering the age of consent. Segued into homosexual bullying in schools . Now sex changes.

    Don’t forget Boudin’s grandfather Leonard attorney for the communist party . And great grandfather Boudin who landed at Ellis Island and was a founder of the Yiddish speaking USA communist party

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Are you telling me that Chesa Boudin's terrorist parents named him after cop-killing, black supremacist terrorist, Joanne Chesimard?

    Replies: @Alden, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    , @AndrewR
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    "Assata" is openly a hero to the BLM terrorists that the elites promote. Never forget these people want you dead. I'm hardly a fan of cops but when they celebrate killing white cops, they're celebrating killing whites.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @ic1000
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The NYT's description of Chesa Boudin is quite the tongue bath:


    That week, on Feb. 4, the couple spoke with San Francisco’s district attorney, Chesa Boudin, on a call. A former public defender, Boudin was part of a new wave of progressive prosecutors who entered office the year before with the promise of reform.
     
    During his campaign, Soros-funded Boudin was clear about how he'd reform the D.A.'s office to benefit street-criminals-of-color. Such as getting rid of experienced (thus racist) ADAs and free rides for shoplifting.

    Monthanus and Eric voted for [Chesa Boudin]. Now they wanted action.
     
    The two bereaved relatives helped put their guy in office, now he's delivering on his new-wave Progressive promises. They're getting their action: Democracy In Action. A handwritten thank-you note is called for, rather than complaints in the Newspaper Of Record.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  2. If they voted for Boudin, this is what’s that religious term? Oh yeah, Karma.

  3. Monthanus and Eric voted for him. Now they wanted action. “We were like, ‘Is this a hate crime?’ He was like, ‘I can’t talk about this,’

    Zero sympathy for these two.

    They voted for the terrorist-progeny as their prosecutor. Guess what, he’s doing his job. You stack rank below the black thug.

    And generally my response to Asian anti-white whining: “Then why are you here? Go home!”. Asians are lucky, they actually have more or less intact nations they can return to. (We white folks should be so lucky!) Think America’s racist … there’s the door.

  4. That January, an old man yelled at her in Golden Gate Park — something about a virus and going back to her country — while she watched her sons, then 10 and 7, run in a playground. In February, two joggers, women, yelled something about germs

    What the NYT needs is an editor who can teach reporters and contributors how to come up with more credible narratives. But that would require editors (not to mention readers) with functioning BS detectors.

    And this is war, and most people know what the first casualty of war is.

  5. What a pack of lies starting with ” An uneasiness had hung over her ever since a mob descended on the Capitol early that month” . And now we have the Asian version of the ADL , Stop AAPI Hate .
    “Remember Vincent Chin,” who was beaten to death by two white men in Detroit in 1982. ” What the hell while we’re remembering let’s remember Pearl Harbor . Oops , sorry .

    • Replies: @anon
    @donut

    An uneasiness had hung over her ever since a mob descended on the Capitol early that month”

    "The uneasiness was hanging over her like the clouds on a dark and stormy night."

  6. How to Write About Black-On-Asian Violence in the NYT

    It should be euphemistic and culturally authentic, e.g. :

    Brack-On-Asian Attack Continue

    那个 please, don’t kill Asian—dat my glandmudda!

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  7. All that might just represent the record for signal to noise ratio for the week. Noise wins.

    One pertinent fact in hundreds of words about “feelings” and mostly about Asian fear in white man lands. Are they aware there are many Asian lands where they would be safe from fear of whites (and death by blacks)?

  8. I wish @isteve to reply to this! All my esteemed authors, from @isteve to Brimelow to Jared Taylor seem to be blissfully unaware of the following fact

    In all Western countries, official media regulations DEMAND, in writing, that RACE, RELIGION, ETHNICITY of “minority” perpetrators MUST NOT be mentioned. Especially the proper NYT ethics rules.

    Our sincerity dot net site is dedicated to that topic.
    @isteve is just documenting that the NYT obeys its own ethics style book

    Once you know that, you stop documenting the correct enforcement of these rules. Rather you expose and oppose these rules and try to have them changed! TruthRevolution DOT net suggests to actually invert these rules. To mandate de-programming by mandatory reading of vdare, isteve, amren

    NYT and AP Stylebook Dishonest! “White Kills Black” is Fit to Print

    https://sincerity.net/stylebook-dishonest/

    US media codes (AP Stylebook1 and NYT2 ) feign color blindness3.

    Footnotes in original text document the media code regulations. Here is footnote 2

    August 11, 1946: The [New York] Times introduced an editorial change announcing they will no longer refer to the race of persons suspected of a crime unless race is relevant to the story. 62 years of systematic mandatory omission of true information. Thou shalt not tell the whole truth, like “Black man robbed, assaulted, raped”…. See Media Speech Codes #1: USA, Canada, Germany

    The truth is: media strongly emphasize the race of alleged white perpetrators and minority victims.4

    original text shows almost a dozen newspaper examples of this

    >US media clearly obey the race-aware German PresseKodex12.1: “When reporting crimes, it is not permissible to refer to the suspect‘s religious, ethnic or other minority membership “5
    The pretense of color blindness in AP Style book, NYT media code and other countries’ media codes 6 is blatantly dishonest and false. Media gag orders do NOT color-blindly repress ALL race information. In reality, the honestly anti-white gag order of the German PresseKodex12.17 applies everywhere. Information about “minority” perps gets scrubbed8 But the race of white perpetrators with “minority” victims is strongly emphasized. Stirring prejudice against Whites by mentioning race of white suspects is all right.

    More details in the linked page and the entire sincerity dot net site. @isteve, please comment!

  9. 3 points 1 Asians vote solidly democrat. 2 Asians voted for Chesa Boudin not his law and order opponent. 3 the reasons blacks aren’t attacking Whites in San Francisco anymore is that there are so few left.

    The census claims San Francisco is about 40 percent asian. It’s far far more than that. It’s not just the thousands of illegals who don’t fill out the census forms. Even 6th generation California Asians don’t fill out the census forms.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
    @Alden


    3 the reasons blacks aren’t attacking Whites in San Francisco anymore is that there are so few left.
     
    There are plenty of whites in SF. Even if you don't believe the Census' plurality number, there are lots. As everywhere black violence is disproportionately against blacks, for reasons of convenience and shared criminality, but your premise is aggressively stupid nonsense.
  10. Chinatowns emptied.

    Trains were leaving to destinations unknown every hour and returning empty. EMPTY!

    • LOL: Right_On
  11. • Replies: @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    That's good to hear.

    I'm still evaluation on whether to get me an post-vaccination infection so as to be really armored and not in need of those "booster shots".

    Meanwhile not in the NYT

    Black Boxer guy Deontay Wilder tells how it is:

    ‘You are all on the menu’: Boxer warns women in the US to ‘get the f*ck inside’ after dark or risk kidnap, rape or murder (VIDEO)


    "Ladies, you all have to stop making these gas station stops by yourselves at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning. You are all on the menu – you are all food out here to these creeps, these rapists, these serial killers and everything, man.

    "There are some awful human beings out here in this world and they are doing horrific things to young women and abducting them, killing them. This is for no apparent reason at all.

    "Some of them are getting robbed, some of them are getting raped but the majority of them are just getting killed. Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself? Stop doing that.

     

    As some Twitter account called ACAB had this to say

    https://twitter.com/playboicatie/status/1421181472845799424

    Replies: @Polistra, @Dissident, @Michelle, @Alden, @J.Ross

    , @Dissident
    @Desiderius

    Neither pathogens nor vaccines care what you think of them.

    ‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients


    Dr. Brytney Cobia said Monday that all but one of her COVID patients in Alabama did not receive the vaccine. The vaccinated patient, she said, just needed a little oxygen and is expected to fully recover. Some of the others are dying.

    “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”
     
    A Florida mom lost her 2 sons to COVID-19 in the span of 12 hours after they refused to get the vaccine

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-160/#comment-4852542


    Wife of 'healthy and active' unvaccinated father-of-three, 36, who died from COVID-19 says she's filled with regret

    Phil Valentine, a radio host who scoffed at Covid, then urged his followers to get vaccinated, dies.

    Covid cases overwhelm the Gulf Coast, leaving region with no I.C.U. beds.

    3 Alaska Airlines employees die of COVID in a month as leadership moves toward vaccination mandate

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Stealth, @Desiderius, @anon, @Anon

    , @reactionry
    @Desiderius

    That's good news, but sadly there is still no vaccine effective against gonorrhea nor the Malaysian Goo nor the Miranda Du Mekong Delta Variant.


    Also see: The Black Man's Burden in San Francisco & Take up the best of ye London Breed

    , @anon
    @Desiderius

    They still get the infection and spread it and sometimes get sick and die from it. Vaccines themselves carry risks as well. The bottom line is that everyone will get this virus and either recover or die. Even if every person were vaccinated, animals still carry the virus and can mutate it. So a focus treatments rather than vaccines that don't work is the only way out. This is no longer a pandemic. The sars-cov-2 virus is endemic and here to stay.

    , @Anon
    @Desiderius

    Desiderius, that seems like pretty motivated reasoning to interpret that chart in that way.

    It shows a slightly higher chance of a positive culture for a given viral load. But knowing that the vaccinated tend to have a higher viral load when infected negates the entire argument.

    The meaningful part of the graph is the slope of the line. And it shows a slope that is - not identical - but very close between the vaccinated and unvaccinated lines. Close enough that it doesn't seem like cause for celebration.

    You also have to consider that the unvaccinated are more likely to be running around with active viral load and no symptoms. This makes them even more likely to be out in the community shedding virus around the vulnerable.

    I'm not an anti-vaxxer but the polarization on this issue has made people unable to to think logically about things. I think the vaccine is nothing short of a miracle, but there are reasonable concerns to be had about the way it is being presented to the public.

    Replies: @HA, @V. Hickel

    , @InnerCynic
    @Desiderius

    Ahh... but it doesn't say "not infectious". Does it?

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Desiderius

    Interesting comments on that graph in the comments section on medrxiv.

  12. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “Any time a family suffers a violent crime, a homicide in particular, there’s questions,” Boudin told me. “Why did this happen? How could it have been prevented? Often, the natural human response is to want someone to blame for the pain that you’re experiencing.”
     
    Like, for instance, the family of the 2 cops and security guard murdered by Chesa Boudin's parents' gang. Or the family of the state trooper murdered by his namesake, Joanne Chesimard aka Assata Shakur. It's complicated, but not really.

    Replies: @Alden, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @ic1000

    Don’t forget 1 San Francisco cop murdered and one blinded when Boudin’s adopted mother, Bernadette Dohrn bombed Park Police Station.

    Dorhn used her prison time to get a mail order law degree. She can’t be licensed to practice law admitted to the bar in Illinois because if her extensive felony record But as soon as she was released from prison she became a law professor at Illinois’ most prestigious university Northwestern A year or 2 later she was relieved of the arduous duty of teaching and became highly paid executive director of some Children’s Civil Rights institution at Northwestern law school.

    Of course her father in law was a trustee of Northwestern. a military contractor and one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the state. There are hundreds of Children’s Legal Aid Foundations. They were formed to impose black thuggery bullying and crime on public schools. Then turned turned to lowering the age of consent. Segued into homosexual bullying in schools . Now sex changes.

    Don’t forget Boudin’s grandfather Leonard attorney for the communist party . And great grandfather Boudin who landed at Ellis Island and was a founder of the Yiddish speaking USA communist party

    • Thanks: JMcG
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    Of course her father in law was a trustee of Northwestern. a military contractor and one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the state.
     
    You sure about this? The Dohrn Transport clan is an entirely different family. Bernardine's father Bernard (shades of Stanley/Stanley Ann) was Orenstein, and changed the name when Bernie Jr was a teen. He was apparently a middle class clerk.


    https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-1993/Rebel-Without-a-Pause/


    Probably saw the name on a truck.


    https://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wvik/files/styles/x_large/public/201802/dohrn_truck.jpg

    (Oops. Just noticed that you wrote "father-in-law", not father. Still, it's refreshing to learn there's no connection to those trucks I see all the time on the highway.)


    Bernardine grew up in Whitefish Bay, which has its own Santa Monica Boulevard along with a Hollywood Avenue. Who do they think they're kidding?

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Colin Wright
    @Alden

    '...Don’t forget Boudin’s grandfather Leonard attorney for the communist party . And great grandfather Boudin who landed at Ellis Island and was a founder of the Yiddish speaking USA communist party.

    Huh. So the Boudins were Jewish. What are the odds?

  13. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1429449468261322759?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dissident, @reactionry, @anon, @Anon, @InnerCynic, @Chrisnonymous

    That’s good to hear.

    I’m still evaluation on whether to get me an post-vaccination infection so as to be really armored and not in need of those “booster shots”.

    Meanwhile not in the NYT

    Black Boxer guy Deontay Wilder tells how it is:

    ‘You are all on the menu’: Boxer warns women in the US to ‘get the f*ck inside’ after dark or risk kidnap, rape or murder (VIDEO)

    “Ladies, you all have to stop making these gas station stops by yourselves at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning. You are all on the menu – you are all food out here to these creeps, these rapists, these serial killers and everything, man.

    “There are some awful human beings out here in this world and they are doing horrific things to young women and abducting them, killing them. This is for no apparent reason at all.

    “Some of them are getting robbed, some of them are getting raped but the majority of them are just getting killed. Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself? Stop doing that.

    As some Twitter account called ACAB had this to say

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @El Dato

    Wasn't there persuasive evidence from the UK that mixing vaccine types enhanced resistance? Might it be a good idea to get a Pfizer booster if you have had the Moderna vaccine and vice versa? Not that the authorities will permit it, but still.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Dissident
    @El Dato


    Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself?
     
    Incidentally, while acknowledging vast, absolutely critical differences in degree, one still must wonder:
    Just how many times and places was being out between ~midnight and dawn ever that prudent for anyone, let alone a female or minor alone?

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Buffalo Joe

    , @Michelle
    @El Dato

    Mr Scott is 100% correct. We are nought but meat and tasty snacks to these predators.

    , @Alden
    @El Dato

    Good advice for men and women both. Men have a much bigger rate of being victims of street crime because they are more likely to be out and about alone at night. Black robbers cruise around bar club restaurant areas looking for victims. usually men walking alone to and from their cars parked in the street.

    , @J.Ross
    @El Dato

    "ACAB" = "All Cops Are Bastards"

    Replies: @ATate

  14. A petite 84-year-old with soft white hair, Vicha Ratanapakdee…

    How can a man be “petite”? I haven’t heard that usage since Lurch, ca. 1965.

    Vicha sounds like a woman’s name, and Monthanus like a man’s. This is upside-down. Wikipedia tells us Vicha was Thai, but Thai Thai, or some minority?

    …“Remember Vincent Chin,” who was beaten to death by two white men in Detroit in 1982.

    By two UAW members. As long as you’re being specific…

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thai. The family name gives it away

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  15. I thought this post was going to be about the latest attack on an Asian reported in New York.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Dave Pinsen

    Those were really quite funny.

    , @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen


    Repliers riffing on “brute” as the latest descriptor.
     
    Brute refers to a species lower than man, an animal without reason or agency.

    brute (n.)
    1610s, "a beast" (as distinguished from a man), especially one of the higher quadrupeds

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/brute
     

    brute, adjective
    \ ˈbrüt \
    Definition of brute (Entry 1 of 2)
    1 : of or relating to beasts

    brutenoun
    Definition of brute (Entry 2 of 2)
    1 : BEAST
    2 : one who lacks intelligence, …

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brute
     
    , @Paperback Writer
    @Dave Pinsen

    LOL. And I really mean it.

    I came across an explanation on the net for why names for black Americans keep changing. Every 10 years they get a new name. Because it takes about 10 years for people to create bad associations for the name. Then they need a change.

    New name, same associations. (Think of it: Negro/Afro-American/black (nothing else, lower case b)/African-American/Black with the capital b.)

    I sense a parallel with the crime names, but faster. Thug is now black, so use brute. Soon brute will be black, so a new word will be needed.

    Personally, I always thought thug was perfect but we'll need a new one. Bob Grant used to call thugs "scum."

    Replies: @Alden

    , @anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    I thought "Brute" was some kind of Boomer aftershave. Like "Axe" is for GenZ .

    From the same edition of the NY Post, "Man punches woman".

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/woman-slaps-man-in-the-face-in-wild-steelers-game-fight/

    The vid shows the black guy pushes the bleached blonde, she slaps him, he punches her.

    Obviously a White Supremacist of some sort.

    Replies: @martin_2

    , @El Dato
    @Dave Pinsen

    "Exterminate all the brutes" is something that can be said.

    They didn't think this through.

    , @Muggles
    @Dave Pinsen

    "Brute"?

    I was just getting to like "jogger."

  16. Throughout 2020, multiple strangers had come at her seemingly out of nowhere.

    Strangers are obviously white. After all, whites make up the vast majority of the population in San Francisco.

    Alden. Rosie. And especially AtillaTheHen, who has it in for Derb.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    AttliaTheHen hasn't been on here for near a year, best I can estimate...

    ... wait a minute. I wonder if she's been the one emptying out those Chinatowns. "Dano, put out an ABP - a WHITE, cisgendered non-youth, last seen westbound on the Long Island Railroad, leaving the Hicksville station, with a 6-pack in her hand, aka, Attila the Kid out of Oyster Bay, Long Island. Did I mention WHITE, Dano?"

    , @Mike Tre
    @Reg Cæsar

    AtH was the best. Comedy gold mine afaic.

  17. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1429449468261322759?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dissident, @reactionry, @anon, @Anon, @InnerCynic, @Chrisnonymous

    Neither pathogens nor vaccines care what you think of them.

    ‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients

    Dr. Brytney Cobia said Monday that all but one of her COVID patients in Alabama did not receive the vaccine. The vaccinated patient, she said, just needed a little oxygen and is expected to fully recover. Some of the others are dying.

    “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”

    A Florida mom lost her 2 sons to COVID-19 in the span of 12 hours after they refused to get the vaccine

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-160/#comment-4852542

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Dissident

    I thought the NYT had no paywall on COVID-related articles. Maybe that was a temporary thing. From a propaganda perspective, keeping people from reading their lies for free doesn't seem helpful to their cause.

    , @Stealth
    @Dissident

    That story about Alabama doctor’s patients begging for the vaccine is confirmed bullshit.

    , @Desiderius
    @Dissident

    Hate to break it to you champ but you're no dissident.

    We can all see the regime propaganda just fine from our house.

    , @anon
    @Dissident

    Dude, people are intubated because they cannot breath. People who cannot breath cannot speak.

    Intubation is pretty nasty, so before that starts the patient is deeply sedated via anesthesia. They don't talk, either.

    So you're saying that people who can't breath, who have just been given anesthesia, are asking for a vaccine?

    Dude, you're really late to the party with this particular example of gaslighting. Just because it's in the papers doesn't make it true, especially now when the 'papers' are all about lying on some topics.

    , @Anon
    @Dissident

    As long as we're swapping anecdotes for whatever reason, the doubly-vaccinated former Finance Minister of Sri Lanka just died of COVID, very shortly after your comment was posted:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangala_Samaraweera#Death

    He is only the second Sri Lankan politician to die of the disease at all.

  18. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “Any time a family suffers a violent crime, a homicide in particular, there’s questions,” Boudin told me. “Why did this happen? How could it have been prevented? Often, the natural human response is to want someone to blame for the pain that you’re experiencing.”
     
    Like, for instance, the family of the 2 cops and security guard murdered by Chesa Boudin's parents' gang. Or the family of the state trooper murdered by his namesake, Joanne Chesimard aka Assata Shakur. It's complicated, but not really.

    Replies: @Alden, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @ic1000

    Are you telling me that Chesa Boudin’s terrorist parents named him after cop-killing, black supremacist terrorist, Joanne Chesimard?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Nicholas Stix

    Yes they did. He’s a 5th generation Russian Jew communist terrorist. Parents of Ellis Island great grandfather were Russian Jew revolutionaries back in the 1890s. Courageously bombed train stations and local government offices.

    Adoptive Mother bombed S.F. Park Police Station killing one cop blinding another and 50 years later son gets elected county prosecutor.

    S.F. Asians are democrats. Voted for him. No sympathy.

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Nicholas Stix

    And whadya know, Cuomo refers Chesa's terrorist father for parole today on his way out, even though he was sentenced to 75 to life w/out possibility of parole. Scum.

  19. Russell Jeung is an “ugly asian” fake scholar who was a key player in this hoax, which goes back to the nyt’s creation of it on March 23, 2020. I debunked it eight days later, but my debunking had no effect.

    The nyt and its allies have recycled/cannibalized it ever since, and frequently cite Jeung, when they do.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2021/03/today-is-one-year-anniversary-of.html

    • Agree: Bernie
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Nicholas Stix


    The nyt and its allies have recycled/cannibalized it ever since, and frequently cite Jeung, when they do.
     
    Hah. nyts make lice.
  20. @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    That's good to hear.

    I'm still evaluation on whether to get me an post-vaccination infection so as to be really armored and not in need of those "booster shots".

    Meanwhile not in the NYT

    Black Boxer guy Deontay Wilder tells how it is:

    ‘You are all on the menu’: Boxer warns women in the US to ‘get the f*ck inside’ after dark or risk kidnap, rape or murder (VIDEO)


    "Ladies, you all have to stop making these gas station stops by yourselves at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning. You are all on the menu – you are all food out here to these creeps, these rapists, these serial killers and everything, man.

    "There are some awful human beings out here in this world and they are doing horrific things to young women and abducting them, killing them. This is for no apparent reason at all.

    "Some of them are getting robbed, some of them are getting raped but the majority of them are just getting killed. Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself? Stop doing that.

     

    As some Twitter account called ACAB had this to say

    https://twitter.com/playboicatie/status/1421181472845799424

    Replies: @Polistra, @Dissident, @Michelle, @Alden, @J.Ross

    Wasn’t there persuasive evidence from the UK that mixing vaccine types enhanced resistance? Might it be a good idea to get a Pfizer booster if you have had the Moderna vaccine and vice versa? Not that the authorities will permit it, but still.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Polistra

    Yes that's the ticket. The Pfizer booster adds this little nuance, the Moderna dose another, then the AstraZeneca is the cherry on top!

    (Or, this is a neurotic fantasy).

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  21. @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    That's good to hear.

    I'm still evaluation on whether to get me an post-vaccination infection so as to be really armored and not in need of those "booster shots".

    Meanwhile not in the NYT

    Black Boxer guy Deontay Wilder tells how it is:

    ‘You are all on the menu’: Boxer warns women in the US to ‘get the f*ck inside’ after dark or risk kidnap, rape or murder (VIDEO)


    "Ladies, you all have to stop making these gas station stops by yourselves at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning. You are all on the menu – you are all food out here to these creeps, these rapists, these serial killers and everything, man.

    "There are some awful human beings out here in this world and they are doing horrific things to young women and abducting them, killing them. This is for no apparent reason at all.

    "Some of them are getting robbed, some of them are getting raped but the majority of them are just getting killed. Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself? Stop doing that.

     

    As some Twitter account called ACAB had this to say

    https://twitter.com/playboicatie/status/1421181472845799424

    Replies: @Polistra, @Dissident, @Michelle, @Alden, @J.Ross

    Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself?

    Incidentally, while acknowledging vast, absolutely critical differences in degree, one still must wonder:
    Just how many times and places was being out between ~midnight and dawn ever that prudent for anyone, let alone a female or minor alone?

    • Agree: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Dissident

    In my black-averse White separatist region, you can take a walk, walk a poodle, hell, leash a canary and walk THAT. Since there are no blacks within the couple of thousands square miles around us, walk to your heart's content, 24/7. The solution is to get AWAY from the real danger, blacks. Admitting that simple truth will set you free. You have to get away.

    Replies: @Pissedoffalese, @Ian Smith

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Dissident

    Dis, carjackings are now a major crime in many cities, regardless of time of day. Pull into a station to gas up and the armed punk is at your side in a heart beat. In Cleveland, at the Jesuit prep HS, a young student walking to his car was jacked in broad daylight on school grounds, behind the faux wrought iron fence. He was robbed of his backpack, laptop, cell phone and car. This in Daylight at a well known Prep school with on site security. Oh, and in daylight in Cleveland, parking lot of Target, Giant Eagle and a bank. Brazen.

  22. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “Any time a family suffers a violent crime, a homicide in particular, there’s questions,” Boudin told me. “Why did this happen? How could it have been prevented? Often, the natural human response is to want someone to blame for the pain that you’re experiencing.”
     
    Like, for instance, the family of the 2 cops and security guard murdered by Chesa Boudin's parents' gang. Or the family of the state trooper murdered by his namesake, Joanne Chesimard aka Assata Shakur. It's complicated, but not really.

    Replies: @Alden, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @ic1000

    “Assata” is openly a hero to the BLM terrorists that the elites promote. Never forget these people want you dead. I’m hardly a fan of cops but when they celebrate killing white cops, they’re celebrating killing whites.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    Never forget these people want you dead. I’m hardly a fan of cops but when they celebrate killing white cops, they’re celebrating killing whites.
     
    Oh, the ruling elite, the parasitic verbalist overclass, does not just want White people dead.

    They do not care when Asian-Americans are killed, as the original post illustrates, or, for that matter, when innocent Blacks or Hispanics or killed. Just as long as the members of the ruling elite are safe in their elite enclaves.

    Which is why Larry Elder just might be the next governor of California. We've had enough.
  23. @Dissident
    @Desiderius

    Neither pathogens nor vaccines care what you think of them.

    ‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients


    Dr. Brytney Cobia said Monday that all but one of her COVID patients in Alabama did not receive the vaccine. The vaccinated patient, she said, just needed a little oxygen and is expected to fully recover. Some of the others are dying.

    “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”
     
    A Florida mom lost her 2 sons to COVID-19 in the span of 12 hours after they refused to get the vaccine

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-160/#comment-4852542


    Wife of 'healthy and active' unvaccinated father-of-three, 36, who died from COVID-19 says she's filled with regret

    Phil Valentine, a radio host who scoffed at Covid, then urged his followers to get vaccinated, dies.

    Covid cases overwhelm the Gulf Coast, leaving region with no I.C.U. beds.

    3 Alaska Airlines employees die of COVID in a month as leadership moves toward vaccination mandate

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Stealth, @Desiderius, @anon, @Anon

    I thought the NYT had no paywall on COVID-related articles. Maybe that was a temporary thing. From a propaganda perspective, keeping people from reading their lies for free doesn’t seem helpful to their cause.

  24. Vicha Ranapakadee….?????

    Remember the old weird American when Asians had good American names like Wong, Chan, Lee…

    Sigh.

  25. We don’t blame murderers when they are PoCs … they are the victims.

  26. @Dissident
    @El Dato


    Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself?
     
    Incidentally, while acknowledging vast, absolutely critical differences in degree, one still must wonder:
    Just how many times and places was being out between ~midnight and dawn ever that prudent for anyone, let alone a female or minor alone?

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Buffalo Joe

    In my black-averse White separatist region, you can take a walk, walk a poodle, hell, leash a canary and walk THAT. Since there are no blacks within the couple of thousands square miles around us, walk to your heart’s content, 24/7. The solution is to get AWAY from the real danger, blacks. Admitting that simple truth will set you free. You have to get away.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman, bomag
    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
    @Jim Christian

    Same here. Gotta put up with howling drunks and methheads staggering around at three a.m., serious firework wars on the 4th of July (competitions, more like), but nobody gets attacked unless they deserve it (other than general Redneck mayhem such as bar fights, etc.), like for spitting on someone or getting caught stealing a bicycle. Then they get the shit stomped out of them, and mostly leave town because the gossip grapevine around here is FEARSOME.

    So, there's pretty much NO crime. I love it. No black people either--well maybe 10 or so, but they are well-aware of how this place works. All my neighbors seem to have cameras mounted outside, too--even the druggies, so no one gets away with anything.

    How things should be, I suppose, except for the cameras. Kinda don't like that, but hey, if the government can spy on everything, why not?

    So inclined, I could walk around here at any time of night and not worry. I don't, because I can barely see, and we have some ferocious deer around here, among other critters. But other people do with no problem. I've been here since 2019, and I think there's been one murder. Domestic dispute is my understanding.

    Oddly, the place is FULL of ex-cons. I guess they all headed for whiteyville after experiencing the joys of diversity. No trouble at all, and everyone knows who they are and what they did, so that keeps them on their toes. No perves, mostly imprisoned just for fighting, drugs, DUIs, and one arsonist whacked-out veteran of the Forever Wars.

    , @Ian Smith
    @Jim Christian

    We can’t keep running forever.

  27. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1429449468261322759?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dissident, @reactionry, @anon, @Anon, @InnerCynic, @Chrisnonymous

    That’s good news, but sadly there is still no vaccine effective against gonorrhea nor the Malaysian Goo nor the Miranda Du Mekong Delta Variant.

    [MORE]

    Also see: The Black Man’s Burden in San Francisco & Take up the best of ye London Breed

  28. @Dissident
    @Desiderius

    Neither pathogens nor vaccines care what you think of them.

    ‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients


    Dr. Brytney Cobia said Monday that all but one of her COVID patients in Alabama did not receive the vaccine. The vaccinated patient, she said, just needed a little oxygen and is expected to fully recover. Some of the others are dying.

    “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”
     
    A Florida mom lost her 2 sons to COVID-19 in the span of 12 hours after they refused to get the vaccine

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-160/#comment-4852542


    Wife of 'healthy and active' unvaccinated father-of-three, 36, who died from COVID-19 says she's filled with regret

    Phil Valentine, a radio host who scoffed at Covid, then urged his followers to get vaccinated, dies.

    Covid cases overwhelm the Gulf Coast, leaving region with no I.C.U. beds.

    3 Alaska Airlines employees die of COVID in a month as leadership moves toward vaccination mandate

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Stealth, @Desiderius, @anon, @Anon

    That story about Alabama doctor’s patients begging for the vaccine is confirmed bullshit.

    • Agree: InnerCynic, V. Hickel
  29. Wei Wei, Ho Ho, these Asian broads have got to go!

  30. “We were like, ‘Is this a hate crime?’ [Chesa Boudin] was like, ‘I can’t talk about this,’” Eric says. “It was just the way that he answered the question that made me feel like he didn’t really care about our emotions, about what we were asking about.”

    When there is video evidence of an unprovoked murder, even a Soros-funded son of killers cannot help the murderer.

  31. He was the elderly Oriental man…

    Thank you, Steve! “Steve, Stevo, the Steverino, learning from his commenters…”

    After reading about an Asian American teenager in the Los Angeles area who was hospitalized in February after being bullied about Covid, …

    Wait? Was he bullied ABOUT Covid or bullied BY Covid. Ahhh, nuts, here we go again …

    Remember Vincent Chin?

    No, as a matter of fact, I don’t. I’m too busy unpacking* all the stupidity in this article – could take a week.

    Thank you for doing another great job with this, Steve. That very last line was killer. Oops, is it OK to write “killer”, or is that showing too much of my White murderous privilege?

    .

    * It’d be nice if this Jaeah Lee would do all her unpacking back in old Hong Kong. The Chinatowns have obviously not been fully emptied.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ach, I remember 'Vinny the Chin', but not Vincent Chin. Must be different crime families.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @the one they call Desanex

  32. @Dave Pinsen
    I thought this post was going to be about the latest attack on an Asian reported in New York.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1429623208324575237?s=20

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @anon, @El Dato, @Muggles

    Those were really quite funny.

  33. Anon[428] • Disclaimer says:

    Do you notice how nonwhite senior citizens are always referred to as “elders,” implying some sort of special wisdom and painting a picture of younger people visiting them to bow, pay respects, and ask for wisdom or conflict resolution per the ancient ways. This is so even if they are just fixed-incomers who watch TV all day and who don’t even get visits from family members.

    Whites are “seniors” at best, grumpy old jerk-asses who need to die or get with the woke program at worst.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Westerners (i.e. boomers) don't like being called old, even if they are. 'Elder' would be taken as an insult. 'Senior' is a euphemism which has no association with age per se.

  34. Anon[428] • Disclaimer says:

    Reader comments are open for this piece at the New York Times, and readers are not buying the narrative.These are literally the top reader up-voted comments, with from 270 to 166 “Recommended” votes each:

    James
    California
    Aug. 17

    The author goes out of the way to avoid mentioning the elephant in the room: black on asian crime has long been a facet of the Bay Area.

    Peter
    San Francisco
    Aug. 17

    The article reports, “(Chesa) Boudin (the San Francisco DA) had told reporters that there was no evidence from the police suggesting that Vicha’s death was motivated by racial animus.” … Chesa Boudin is now the subject of a recall campaign here in San Francisco. I signed the petition to recall him.

    John
    New Jersey
    Aug. 17

    So the article mentions the Capitol riot (had nothing to do with this crime) , an old man yelling an anti-Asian slur, and activists that imply that white people are the problem. Then curiously there is little discussion about the perpetrator, who was Black. Why is that? Why is there always this narrative?

    James
    New York, NY
    Aug. 17

    “But the overwhelming majority of hate-crime perpetrators are white.”

    Interestingly, the Justice Dept website indicates that 52.5% of known offenders in 2019 were white, much less than the white share of the population.

    23.9% of offenders were Black or African American, while representing ~13% of the U.S. population. One can do the math (note: which cases do you think are left unreported?).

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anon

    There are 140 comments on the article so far, and in addition to comments criticizing the piece are completely unselfaware comments like:



    Pedna
    Vancouver
    Aug. 19

    Reading this article, I feel I lucked out, or is Vancouver different? After retirement I moved into an apartment building where one comes across people from just about all cultures and religions (no Blacks, we don't have many Blacks in Vancouver). It has become a family, one does not think about cultural or racial identities of the neighbours. We speak the same human language; neighbours are decent, helpful and friendly. Why is difficult to have similar atmosphere in other neighbourhoods?
     
    He asks:

    "[My] neighbours are decent, helpful and friendly. Why is difficult to have similar atmosphere in other neighbourhoods?"

    Earlier in his comment:

    "(no Blacks, we don't have many Blacks in Vancouver)"

    I wonder what the difference could be between San Francisco and Vancouver? At any rate, let's send them some Afghans.

    Replies: @anon

  35. @Reg Cæsar


    Throughout 2020, multiple strangers had come at her seemingly out of nowhere.
     
    Strangers are obviously white. After all, whites make up the vast majority of the population in San Francisco.
     
    Alden. Rosie. And especially AtillaTheHen, who has it in for Derb.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mike Tre

    AttliaTheHen hasn’t been on here for near a year, best I can estimate…

    … wait a minute. I wonder if she’s been the one emptying out those Chinatowns. “Dano, put out an ABP – a WHITE, cisgendered non-youth, last seen westbound on the Long Island Railroad, leaving the Hicksville station, with a 6-pack in her hand, aka, Attila the Kid out of Oyster Bay, Long Island. Did I mention WHITE, Dano?”

  36. The killer came to the neighborhood in a stolen vehicle. Driver or passenger? Earlier that day, he had been cited for speeding and running a stop sign. In the stolen vehicle? Or did he park his own car, and steal a car, or rent a stolen car from another thug? Because that’s a thing, renting out stolen cars one thug to another.

    • Thanks: Alden
  37. Anonymous[185] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I thought this post was going to be about the latest attack on an Asian reported in New York.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1429623208324575237?s=20

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @anon, @El Dato, @Muggles

    Repliers riffing on “brute” as the latest descriptor.

    Brute refers to a species lower than man, an animal without reason or agency.

    brute (n.)
    1610s, “a beast” (as distinguished from a man), especially one of the higher quadrupeds

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/brute

    brute, adjective
    \ ˈbrüt \
    Definition of brute (Entry 1 of 2)
    1 : of or relating to beasts

    brutenoun
    Definition of brute (Entry 2 of 2)
    1 : BEAST
    2 : one who lacks intelligence, …

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brute

  38. @Dave Pinsen
    I thought this post was going to be about the latest attack on an Asian reported in New York.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1429623208324575237?s=20

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @anon, @El Dato, @Muggles

    LOL. And I really mean it.

    I came across an explanation on the net for why names for black Americans keep changing. Every 10 years they get a new name. Because it takes about 10 years for people to create bad associations for the name. Then they need a change.

    New name, same associations. (Think of it: Negro/Afro-American/black (nothing else, lower case b)/African-American/Black with the capital b.)

    I sense a parallel with the crime names, but faster. Thug is now black, so use brute. Soon brute will be black, so a new word will be needed.

    Personally, I always thought thug was perfect but we’ll need a new one. Bob Grant used to call thugs “scum.”

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Paperback Writer

    Chicago news papers now use the word youngsters to describe the savage black packs hunting robbing beating and injuring Whites in the most expensive and upscale parts of the city, Miracle mile, Lakeview Gold Coast .

  39. @Nicholas Stix
    Russell Jeung is an "ugly asian" fake scholar who was a key player in this hoax, which goes back to the nyt's creation of it on March 23, 2020. I debunked it eight days later, but my debunking had no effect.

    The nyt and its allies have recycled/cannibalized it ever since, and frequently cite Jeung, when they do.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2021/03/today-is-one-year-anniversary-of.html

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    The nyt and its allies have recycled/cannibalized it ever since, and frequently cite Jeung, when they do.

    Hah. nyts make lice.

  40. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “Any time a family suffers a violent crime, a homicide in particular, there’s questions,” Boudin told me. “Why did this happen? How could it have been prevented? Often, the natural human response is to want someone to blame for the pain that you’re experiencing.”
     
    Like, for instance, the family of the 2 cops and security guard murdered by Chesa Boudin's parents' gang. Or the family of the state trooper murdered by his namesake, Joanne Chesimard aka Assata Shakur. It's complicated, but not really.

    Replies: @Alden, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @ic1000

    The NYT’s description of Chesa Boudin is quite the tongue bath:

    That week, on Feb. 4, the couple spoke with San Francisco’s district attorney, Chesa Boudin, on a call. A former public defender, Boudin was part of a new wave of progressive prosecutors who entered office the year before with the promise of reform.

    During his campaign, Soros-funded Boudin was clear about how he’d reform the D.A.’s office to benefit street-criminals-of-color. Such as getting rid of experienced (thus racist) ADAs and free rides for shoplifting.

    Monthanus and Eric voted for [Chesa Boudin]. Now they wanted action.

    The two bereaved relatives helped put their guy in office, now he’s delivering on his new-wave Progressive promises. They’re getting their action: Democracy In Action. A handwritten thank-you note is called for, rather than complaints in the Newspaper Of Record.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @ic1000

    Thank you, IC. I figured he was a Soros appointee just from iSteve's excerpt but didn't feel like looking it up. Yes, these people very likely voted for what they got, good and hard, up side the head.

  41. @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    That's good to hear.

    I'm still evaluation on whether to get me an post-vaccination infection so as to be really armored and not in need of those "booster shots".

    Meanwhile not in the NYT

    Black Boxer guy Deontay Wilder tells how it is:

    ‘You are all on the menu’: Boxer warns women in the US to ‘get the f*ck inside’ after dark or risk kidnap, rape or murder (VIDEO)


    "Ladies, you all have to stop making these gas station stops by yourselves at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning. You are all on the menu – you are all food out here to these creeps, these rapists, these serial killers and everything, man.

    "There are some awful human beings out here in this world and they are doing horrific things to young women and abducting them, killing them. This is for no apparent reason at all.

    "Some of them are getting robbed, some of them are getting raped but the majority of them are just getting killed. Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself? Stop doing that.

     

    As some Twitter account called ACAB had this to say

    https://twitter.com/playboicatie/status/1421181472845799424

    Replies: @Polistra, @Dissident, @Michelle, @Alden, @J.Ross

    Mr Scott is 100% correct. We are nought but meat and tasty snacks to these predators.

  42. anon[158] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1429449468261322759?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dissident, @reactionry, @anon, @Anon, @InnerCynic, @Chrisnonymous

    They still get the infection and spread it and sometimes get sick and die from it. Vaccines themselves carry risks as well. The bottom line is that everyone will get this virus and either recover or die. Even if every person were vaccinated, animals still carry the virus and can mutate it. So a focus treatments rather than vaccines that don’t work is the only way out. This is no longer a pandemic. The sars-cov-2 virus is endemic and here to stay.

  43. Why can’t we refer to all blacks as Africans?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Foreign Expert

    Recently we switched to Dinger I think.

  44. @Dissident
    @Desiderius

    Neither pathogens nor vaccines care what you think of them.

    ‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients


    Dr. Brytney Cobia said Monday that all but one of her COVID patients in Alabama did not receive the vaccine. The vaccinated patient, she said, just needed a little oxygen and is expected to fully recover. Some of the others are dying.

    “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”
     
    A Florida mom lost her 2 sons to COVID-19 in the span of 12 hours after they refused to get the vaccine

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-160/#comment-4852542


    Wife of 'healthy and active' unvaccinated father-of-three, 36, who died from COVID-19 says she's filled with regret

    Phil Valentine, a radio host who scoffed at Covid, then urged his followers to get vaccinated, dies.

    Covid cases overwhelm the Gulf Coast, leaving region with no I.C.U. beds.

    3 Alaska Airlines employees die of COVID in a month as leadership moves toward vaccination mandate

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Stealth, @Desiderius, @anon, @Anon

    Hate to break it to you champ but you’re no dissident.

    We can all see the regime propaganda just fine from our house.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  45. @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    That's good to hear.

    I'm still evaluation on whether to get me an post-vaccination infection so as to be really armored and not in need of those "booster shots".

    Meanwhile not in the NYT

    Black Boxer guy Deontay Wilder tells how it is:

    ‘You are all on the menu’: Boxer warns women in the US to ‘get the f*ck inside’ after dark or risk kidnap, rape or murder (VIDEO)


    "Ladies, you all have to stop making these gas station stops by yourselves at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning. You are all on the menu – you are all food out here to these creeps, these rapists, these serial killers and everything, man.

    "There are some awful human beings out here in this world and they are doing horrific things to young women and abducting them, killing them. This is for no apparent reason at all.

    "Some of them are getting robbed, some of them are getting raped but the majority of them are just getting killed. Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself? Stop doing that.

     

    As some Twitter account called ACAB had this to say

    https://twitter.com/playboicatie/status/1421181472845799424

    Replies: @Polistra, @Dissident, @Michelle, @Alden, @J.Ross

    Good advice for men and women both. Men have a much bigger rate of being victims of street crime because they are more likely to be out and about alone at night. Black robbers cruise around bar club restaurant areas looking for victims. usually men walking alone to and from their cars parked in the street.

  46. @Nicholas Stix
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Are you telling me that Chesa Boudin's terrorist parents named him after cop-killing, black supremacist terrorist, Joanne Chesimard?

    Replies: @Alden, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Yes they did. He’s a 5th generation Russian Jew communist terrorist. Parents of Ellis Island great grandfather were Russian Jew revolutionaries back in the 1890s. Courageously bombed train stations and local government offices.

    Adoptive Mother bombed S.F. Park Police Station killing one cop blinding another and 50 years later son gets elected county prosecutor.

    S.F. Asians are democrats. Voted for him. No sympathy.

  47. Axiom #1 –African Americans are never morally responsible for any criminal behavior.

    Give them that one and all else follows.

  48. @Paperback Writer
    @Dave Pinsen

    LOL. And I really mean it.

    I came across an explanation on the net for why names for black Americans keep changing. Every 10 years they get a new name. Because it takes about 10 years for people to create bad associations for the name. Then they need a change.

    New name, same associations. (Think of it: Negro/Afro-American/black (nothing else, lower case b)/African-American/Black with the capital b.)

    I sense a parallel with the crime names, but faster. Thug is now black, so use brute. Soon brute will be black, so a new word will be needed.

    Personally, I always thought thug was perfect but we'll need a new one. Bob Grant used to call thugs "scum."

    Replies: @Alden

    Chicago news papers now use the word youngsters to describe the savage black packs hunting robbing beating and injuring Whites in the most expensive and upscale parts of the city, Miracle mile, Lakeview Gold Coast .

  49. “She had learned small details about the suspect from her initial conversations with the police: male, 19 years old, African American.”

    Fascinating how the objective description of the assailant turns out to be a “small detail” (and therefore irrelevant) when that person is black. It is amazing how journalistic standards have crumbled, even at the once mighty New York Times.

  50. chesa boudin may be subjected to a recall petition. Voters just didn’t understand “restorative justice” when it comes to murder and mayhem. Can’t restore a life or replace your blinded eye. But, it is San Francisco, where a young woman walking with her dad, although they are White, can be shot and killed and the murderer aquitted of all charges. He had claimed he was shooting at some seals, had that been true the obama administration would have come down with both feet. White women, Asian women, not so much and biden is obama II. Factories used to have signage: ‘This plant has worked___days without an accident.” Put these signs up in SF…”This neighborhood has gone___days without an Asian being beaten.” Stay safe. Cross the street. Avoid danger.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Buffalo Joe

    Seal lives matter!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQiKP2gI1-o

  51. @Achmed E. Newman

    He was the elderly Oriental man...
     
    Thank you, Steve! "Steve, Stevo, the Steverino, learning from his commenters..."

    After reading about an Asian American teenager in the Los Angeles area who was hospitalized in February after being bullied about Covid, ...
     
    Wait? Was he bullied ABOUT Covid or bullied BY Covid. Ahhh, nuts, here we go again ...

    Remember Vincent Chin?
     
    No, as a matter of fact, I don't. I'm too busy unpacking* all the stupidity in this article - could take a week.

    Thank you for doing another great job with this, Steve. That very last line was killer. Oops, is it OK to write "killer", or is that showing too much of my White murderous privilege?


    .

    * It'd be nice if this Jaeah Lee would do all her unpacking back in old Hong Kong. The Chinatowns have obviously not been fully emptied.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Ach, I remember ‘Vinny the Chin’, but not Vincent Chin. Must be different crime families.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buffalo Joe

    Maybe. I tried to look them up, Joe, but they no longer make paper phone books - since I've gained a great deal of weight, I ended up dialing up 3 or 4 Vinny's at one time... with my multiple Chins.

    OK, I was trying to do this joke backwards - it's not easy, dammit! (No, I haven't gained any weight, even lyin' flat for the last week.)

    , @the one they call Desanex
    @Buffalo Joe

    I recollect Vincent the Chin
    was the boss of all bosses within
    the crime mob Genovese,
    and he wasn’t Chinese.
    (But if you guessed Italian, you win!)

  52. This reminds me…on multiple occasions in his professional career, NYT columnist Jamelle Bouie has claimed there’s no such thing as “black-on-black crime” because blacks just criminally victimize whoever’s nearby.

    He thinks this is a good point.

  53. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I thought this post was going to be about the latest attack on an Asian reported in New York.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1429623208324575237?s=20

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @anon, @El Dato, @Muggles

    I thought “Brute” was some kind of Boomer aftershave. Like “Axe” is for GenZ .

    From the same edition of the NY Post, “Man punches woman”.

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/woman-slaps-man-in-the-face-in-wild-steelers-game-fight/

    The vid shows the black guy pushes the bleached blonde, she slaps him, he punches her.

    Obviously a White Supremacist of some sort.

    • Replies: @martin_2
    @anon

    That's correct. In the UK there was a brand of aftershave called "Brut", and the celebrity advertising it was a popular boxer, Henry Cooper.

  54. @ic1000
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The NYT's description of Chesa Boudin is quite the tongue bath:


    That week, on Feb. 4, the couple spoke with San Francisco’s district attorney, Chesa Boudin, on a call. A former public defender, Boudin was part of a new wave of progressive prosecutors who entered office the year before with the promise of reform.
     
    During his campaign, Soros-funded Boudin was clear about how he'd reform the D.A.'s office to benefit street-criminals-of-color. Such as getting rid of experienced (thus racist) ADAs and free rides for shoplifting.

    Monthanus and Eric voted for [Chesa Boudin]. Now they wanted action.
     
    The two bereaved relatives helped put their guy in office, now he's delivering on his new-wave Progressive promises. They're getting their action: Democracy In Action. A handwritten thank-you note is called for, rather than complaints in the Newspaper Of Record.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you, IC. I figured he was a Soros appointee just from iSteve’s excerpt but didn’t feel like looking it up. Yes, these people very likely voted for what they got, good and hard, up side the head.

  55. @Buffalo Joe
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ach, I remember 'Vinny the Chin', but not Vincent Chin. Must be different crime families.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @the one they call Desanex

    Maybe. I tried to look them up, Joe, but they no longer make paper phone books – since I’ve gained a great deal of weight, I ended up dialing up 3 or 4 Vinny’s at one time… with my multiple Chins.

    OK, I was trying to do this joke backwards – it’s not easy, dammit! (No, I haven’t gained any weight, even lyin’ flat for the last week.)

  56. anon[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dissident
    @Desiderius

    Neither pathogens nor vaccines care what you think of them.

    ‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients


    Dr. Brytney Cobia said Monday that all but one of her COVID patients in Alabama did not receive the vaccine. The vaccinated patient, she said, just needed a little oxygen and is expected to fully recover. Some of the others are dying.

    “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”
     
    A Florida mom lost her 2 sons to COVID-19 in the span of 12 hours after they refused to get the vaccine

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-160/#comment-4852542


    Wife of 'healthy and active' unvaccinated father-of-three, 36, who died from COVID-19 says she's filled with regret

    Phil Valentine, a radio host who scoffed at Covid, then urged his followers to get vaccinated, dies.

    Covid cases overwhelm the Gulf Coast, leaving region with no I.C.U. beds.

    3 Alaska Airlines employees die of COVID in a month as leadership moves toward vaccination mandate

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Stealth, @Desiderius, @anon, @Anon

    Dude, people are intubated because they cannot breath. People who cannot breath cannot speak.

    Intubation is pretty nasty, so before that starts the patient is deeply sedated via anesthesia. They don’t talk, either.

    So you’re saying that people who can’t breath, who have just been given anesthesia, are asking for a vaccine?

    Dude, you’re really late to the party with this particular example of gaslighting. Just because it’s in the papers doesn’t make it true, especially now when the ‘papers’ are all about lying on some topics.

  57. Ironic headline from three decades back by Black! Chicago Tribune columnist.

    ASIAN-AMERICANS COULD USE THEIR OWN JESSE JACKSON
    Clarence Page

    Maybe Asian-Americans need their own Jesse Jackson.

    Since I am African-American, not Asian-American, I would never presume to tell anyone else who their leaders should be.

    But, as one who has covered Jackson since the `60s and has not always agreed with everything he had to say, I must admit that, more often than not, I`m glad he`s there.

    Like most Americans, I appreciate individualism. But sometimes when you are victimized in a group, you need to take group action, at least long enough to tell the world, ”Enough!”

    Asian-Americans have not seemed to need such agitation. They have been, in many eyes, a ”model minority” that worked hard, studied hard, obeyed the established order and prospered.

    Or, at least, that was the image. It belied the truth of many Asian-American households where the pain of poverty and prejudice persist. But it served the purposes of those who wanted to believe the myth, especially when they could use it to admonish blacks: Why can`t you be more like the Asians?

    Well, guess what? In the words of Dennis Hayashi, national director of the Japanese American Citizens League, ”Last year`s `model minority` is this year`s political scapegoat.”

    Nothing illustrates the turnabout as poignantly as the recently reported story of a small group of uniformed Japanese-American Girl Scouts who were rudely rebuffed while selling cookies at a suburban Los Angeles shopping mall by a man who snorted, ”I only buy from American girls.”

    ”But we are American,” implored one of the girls, Megan Higoshi, now 13.

    Sorry, m`dear, but you might as well read the word ”American” to mean

    ”white.”

    An ugly wave of anti-Asian resentment is erasing the ”model minority”

    image and replacing it with a new one of an Asian menace, a scapegoat for whatever ails Americans.

    Coming on the heels of hard economic times and heightened tensions with Japan over trade, the new scapegoating has brought a noticeable wave of verbal abuse, hate mail, graffiti and vandalism and perhaps even a murder of a Japanese businessman who was killed at his Ventura County, Calif., home on Feb. 23.

    Arthur Fletcher, chairman of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, coincidentally issued a report five days later that concluded Japan-bashing by American workers, businessmen and politicians had helped turn bigotry, discrimination and violence against Asian-Americans into ”a national problem.”

    Just as Americans of Japanese ancestry were unfairly rounded up during World War II, in a mistaken and trumped-up belief that they, unlike German- or Italian-Americans, had dual loyalties to their ancestral homeland, so have many Asian-Americans found themselves unfairly targeted today for the sins of a country many have yet to visit.

    An earlier outbreak of anti-Asian incidents that erupted during the 1982 recession took the life of Vincent Chin, a Chinese-American killed in Detroit in 1982 by a couple of laid-off autoworkers who apparently mistook him for Japanese.

    The latest wave, according to Ron Wakabayashi, director of Los Angeles`

    Human Relations Commission, emerged with December`s observances of the 50th anniversary of Japan`s attack on Pearl Harbor and a series of imprudent derogatory remarks by Japanese leaders about American workers.

    Unlike the earlier wave of attacks, which seemed to be largely random and spontaneous, the new wave includes specific targets like community centers, senior citizen facilities and private homes, which have been attacked with arson and graffiti.

    It also includes cities like Philadelphia, where the Civil Rights Commission says Asians have been more victimized than any other prominent minority: 20 percent of the city`s hate-crime victims, even though they are only 4 percent of the population.

    Many incidents actually include attacks from other prominent minorities, like blacks, a particularly tragic result of anger, resentment and

    misunderstanding between blacks and Korean grocers in some inner-city neighborhoods.

    So, as admirable as the ”model minority” stereotype may seem to some, it still depersonalizes the people it is stereotyping, and once you have been depersonalized, you can just as easily be dehumanized.

    ”Look how easily the seemingly admirable image of being hard workers can quickly turn around into a sinister, threatening message that, `They`re working too hard,` ” Hayashi said.

    Yet, I fear the ”model minority” image is so deeply imbedded in the minds of most Americans that even prominent politicians can click their tongues in sympathy for Asian-Americans while doing absolutely nothing to cool down the tone of their own rhetoric.

    Such is the ugly mood rolling across the land, fueled by hard economic times and a ”Buy America” fervor whipped up by politicians like Pat

    ”America First” Buchanan, who sounds bemused every time someone points out the obvious contradiction between his ”America First” professions, his German-made Mercedes-Benz and his French-made Hermes neckties. Perhaps his slogan should be ”Euro-America First”?

    That`s why I think maybe Asian-Americans could use a Jesse Jackson. He may not be perfect, but he gets attention. Sometimes that`s all you need.

    At least 106 people shot, 14 fatally, in Chicago weekend violence
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    Copyright © 2021, Chicago Tribune

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-03-11-9201220955-story.html

  58. Anon[127] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1429449468261322759?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dissident, @reactionry, @anon, @Anon, @InnerCynic, @Chrisnonymous

    Desiderius, that seems like pretty motivated reasoning to interpret that chart in that way.

    It shows a slightly higher chance of a positive culture for a given viral load. But knowing that the vaccinated tend to have a higher viral load when infected negates the entire argument.

    The meaningful part of the graph is the slope of the line. And it shows a slope that is – not identical – but very close between the vaccinated and unvaccinated lines. Close enough that it doesn’t seem like cause for celebration.

    You also have to consider that the unvaccinated are more likely to be running around with active viral load and no symptoms. This makes them even more likely to be out in the community shedding virus around the vulnerable.

    I’m not an anti-vaxxer but the polarization on this issue has made people unable to to think logically about things. I think the vaccine is nothing short of a miracle, but there are reasonable concerns to be had about the way it is being presented to the public.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @HA
    @Anon

    "It shows a slightly higher chance of a positive culture for a given viral load. But knowing that the vaccinated tend to have a higher viral load when infected negates the entire argument."

    Where are you seeing that they have a "higher viral load"? The "vaccinated" graph is always lower than the "unvaccinated" in terms of "probability of culture positivity" Furthermore, to the extent the vaccinated have a shorter and milder disease progression, they're going to be doing a lot less infecting.

    "The meaningful part of the graph is the slope of the line. And it shows a slope that is – not identical – but very close between the vaccinated and unvaccinated lines."

    The slopes seem substantially different to me, and I fail to see why slope is more meaningful than the fact that "vaxxed" is everywhere shallower and lower than the "unvaxxed". Moreover, the above point about how many days a vaxxed COVID case sheds vs. one who is vaccinated remains:


    The study’s analyses of PCR test results also suggest that fully vaccinated people may be less likely than unvaccinated people to pass the virus on to others, due to having a smaller viral load on average and therefore likely shedding less virus.
     
    "You also have to consider that the unvaccinated are more likely to be running around with active viral load and no symptoms. This makes them even more likely to be out in the community shedding virus around the vulnerable."

    I see your point there -- to the extent the unvaxxed are more likely to be exhaling into ventilators or else packed away in morgues not exhaling at all, then the vaxxed are in that sense more dangerous, but back when there were no vaccines, things were far gloomier. Again, the excess deaths graph that the CDC has been throughout COVID serves as a useful benchmark. The post-vaccine behavior still shows a bit of an elevation relative to the last couple of years displayed in the graph, but the overall US death rate -- despite the delta surge -- has been just about normal for several months, so whatever COVID is killing among the unvaxxed is not enough to exceed whatever reduction in deaths the delays in elective surgery or the cancelled vacation trips are causing. That may change once we get into the flu season, but it's hard to argue against the notion that so far at least, we're in a far better place.

    True, we might all have to do without Eric Clapton concerts and celebrating "bear week at Provincetown" for a bit longer, but I'm pretty sure that won't be the end of us.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @V. Hickel
    @Anon

    how is a "vaccine" that has killed thousands and sickened countless others, while failing to prevent the disease 'miraculous'?

    Replies: @HA

  59. @Buffalo Joe
    chesa boudin may be subjected to a recall petition. Voters just didn't understand "restorative justice" when it comes to murder and mayhem. Can't restore a life or replace your blinded eye. But, it is San Francisco, where a young woman walking with her dad, although they are White, can be shot and killed and the murderer aquitted of all charges. He had claimed he was shooting at some seals, had that been true the obama administration would have come down with both feet. White women, Asian women, not so much and biden is obama II. Factories used to have signage: 'This plant has worked___days without an accident." Put these signs up in SF..."This neighborhood has gone___days without an Asian being beaten." Stay safe. Cross the street. Avoid danger.

    Replies: @Truth

    Seal lives matter!

  60. “Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.”

  61. An elderly Thai man is murdered by an ignorant black animal. What is to discuss? I won’t fall for the “hate crime” mantra, because thats when you play by the enemies rules, but this ignorant piece of shit is guilty of killing a man. Full stop.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @InnerCynic

    @54 Inner Cynic: "An elderly Thai is murdered by an ignorant black animal."

    Perhaps the elderly Thai ought to have remained in his own country which remains massively homogeneous, with no danger from ignorant black animals. Then Americans wouldn't have to pay for him, be accused of racism towards him, and read stories designed to evoke guilt and pity for this parasitic alien.

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @üeljang

  62. @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    That's good to hear.

    I'm still evaluation on whether to get me an post-vaccination infection so as to be really armored and not in need of those "booster shots".

    Meanwhile not in the NYT

    Black Boxer guy Deontay Wilder tells how it is:

    ‘You are all on the menu’: Boxer warns women in the US to ‘get the f*ck inside’ after dark or risk kidnap, rape or murder (VIDEO)


    "Ladies, you all have to stop making these gas station stops by yourselves at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning. You are all on the menu – you are all food out here to these creeps, these rapists, these serial killers and everything, man.

    "There are some awful human beings out here in this world and they are doing horrific things to young women and abducting them, killing them. This is for no apparent reason at all.

    "Some of them are getting robbed, some of them are getting raped but the majority of them are just getting killed. Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself? Stop doing that.

     

    As some Twitter account called ACAB had this to say

    https://twitter.com/playboicatie/status/1421181472845799424

    Replies: @Polistra, @Dissident, @Michelle, @Alden, @J.Ross

    “ACAB” = “All Cops Are Bastards”

    • Replies: @ATate
    @J.Ross

    I always read it as;

    “All” “Criminals” “Are” “Black”

  63. @Reg Cæsar

    A petite 84-year-old with soft white hair, Vicha Ratanapakdee...
     
    How can a man be "petite"? I haven't heard that usage since Lurch, ca. 1965.


    Vicha sounds like a woman's name, and Monthanus like a man's. This is upside-down. Wikipedia tells us Vicha was Thai, but Thai Thai, or some minority?


    ...“Remember Vincent Chin,” who was beaten to death by two white men in Detroit in 1982.
     
    By two UAW members. As long as you're being specific...

    Replies: @InnerCynic

    Thai. The family name gives it away

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @InnerCynic


    Thai. The family name gives it away

     

    Lao have lengthy monikers, too. Chinese in SE Asia will also adopt local names.


    Asians seem strangely drawn to the extremes of name length. It's either one syllable (China, Korea, Vietnam) or many (Thailand, Laos, India, Ceylon).

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @Achmed E. Newman

  64. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1429449468261322759?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dissident, @reactionry, @anon, @Anon, @InnerCynic, @Chrisnonymous

    Ahh… but it doesn’t say “not infectious”. Does it?

  65. That January, an old man yelled at her . . . something about a virus and going back to her country . . .

    In February, two joggers, women, yelled something about germs at her older son . . .

    In March, . . . a woman swung at Monthanus outside a hospital . . .

    In November, another old man spat in her direction . . .

    LOL. None of that shit actually happened.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Federalist

    Exactly, Federalist - some of that was from the paragraph I noted in my reply to Ron Unz.

    Ha, the spitting in her direction. Well, a loogie will have an initial velocity vector. Being a vector quantity, it has both a direction AND magnitude. How far was the old man? How far can an old man spit? The details matter, or it's just simple bullshit. Come to think of it, if anyone is going to be good at spitting, the chances are he (or she, of course!) is Oriental, OK, Chinese.

    Peak Stupidity elaborates in "Show me a nation that can enforce a social distance of 6 ft. ..."

    .


    You guessed it, "... and I'll show you a man who can hawk a loogie 7 ft."

  66. Actually, the main thing that jumped out at me when I read the big NYT Magazine cover-story were the true facts about anti-Asian racial attacks were actually included in the text:

    At the first few rallies they attended, Eric casually surveyed attendees, asking whether they had ever been spit on or pushed and what the race of the perpetrator was. “Everybody I talked to said it was from a Black person,” he told me. “I know it’s not a scientific poll or whatever.” The responses confirmed a thought in his mind all the same.

    For Sarah Wan, a community organizer who has been helping victims of violence in San Francisco, the debate brought back memories from 2010, when hundreds gathered outside City Hall to protest a series of similar reports. Among the most alarming were the stories of a 57-year-old Asian woman who was pushed off a railway platform onto the tracks, and an 83-year-old Asian man who died from a head injury after being assaulted by a group of boys. In each case, the suspects were Black.

    A few days later, Eric asked me if I saw the news about the recent attack on Carl Chan, the head of Oakland’s Chinatown Chamber of Commerce, who has been a vocal supporter of increasing foot patrols and camera surveillance in the neighborhood. Chan shared a photo of the person he said attacked him, who appeared to be Black, with reporters.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/magazine/vicha-ratanapakdee.html

    San Francisco is only 5% black and the entire Bay Area region perhaps 3%. Yet almost every case cited involved a black attacker. Given that those true and important facts managed to appear in such a high-profile NYT story on anti-Asian racial violence, I don’t think it’s fair to criticize the (Asian) writer too much for also including some extensive covering PC verbiage.

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ron Unz

    Thank you for those excerpted 3 paragraphs, Mr. Unz. I like your expression "extensive covering PC verbiage", but man is this extensive! I am trying to see where your excerpts fit in with all the BS that Mr. Sailer shows us. I'll tell you that I will almost NEVER click on the NY Times. I did this time to try to reconcile what you wrote here with the post. Sorry, they want me to make an account so F that. (I believe you, of course.)

    To me, Steve's point is that the writer does every thing he* can to make this into an article about racism, which we all know means "White people BAD", no matter what the facts are, even when a few are given. I know, you, me, Steve, and every commenter but Corvinus, if we had read the whole article, would dig out those facts and make the conclusion that "yes, no duh, black people commit most of the violence, and that goes against all races, Orientals not excluded".

    Do you think the average NY Times reader would come to the same conclusion? I bet 95% of them, even of the ones that read the entire article, will get out of this: "White people bad. Poor Oriental people. More money for programs. More re-education."

    Yeah, good on the guy for sticking in some facts, but he sure went hard-out stupid with all the rest. I mean, the one paragraph up there that starts with: "Jeung set up search alerts for “Asian American” and “discrimination.” has just SO much bullshit, one lie after another. I don't know where to start with that. So much stupidity and so little time!

    PS: Note that the writer never comes up with any proposed solution with the words "black people" in it, not even a euphemism.

    .

    * I can't tell he or she with that foreigner first name.

    , @Redmen
    @Ron Unz


    I don’t think it’s fair to criticize the (Asian) writer too much for also including some extensive covering PC verbiage.
     
    Ron-did you mean to say ass-covering here?
  67. Antoine Watson, the 19-year-old accused of shoving Vicha to death,

    Watson is a white name, isn’t it? Case closed.

    One witness at the scene told officers that he saw “a Black male, 18 to 30 years old,” approach and “stand over” an elderly man lying on the ground. Another witness said he heard a voice yelling: “Why you looking at me? Why you looking at me?” and then “a crushing sound.”

    Reminds me that when I last visited San Francisco some years ago, I was mock charged by a chubby black student in his 20s. I suppose I must have looked at him a bit too long as we passed each other in the street? Well, it never got very serious but still seemed a bit odd.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Pericles

    Innocent youngster only shoved Vicha. Just a gentle shove as he gives old ladies. He had no intention of hurting or knocking down Vicha.

    Or. The innocent youngster didn’t really shove Vicha. Gentle youngster thought Vicha need a helping hand to prevent falling and stumbling.

    Law is an adversarial system. But in San Fransicko The prosecutor and the defense are on the same side.

  68. That Eric guy should really apologize to all black people and donate to BLM as penance. Wow just wow. People, it’s 2021.

  69. @Dave Pinsen
    I thought this post was going to be about the latest attack on an Asian reported in New York.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1429623208324575237?s=20

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @anon, @El Dato, @Muggles

    “Exterminate all the brutes” is something that can be said.

    They didn’t think this through.

  70. @Buffalo Joe
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ach, I remember 'Vinny the Chin', but not Vincent Chin. Must be different crime families.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @the one they call Desanex

    I recollect Vincent the Chin
    was the boss of all bosses within
    the crime mob Genovese,
    and he wasn’t Chinese.
    (But if you guessed Italian, you win!)

  71. @Ron Unz
    Actually, the main thing that jumped out at me when I read the big NYT Magazine cover-story were the true facts about anti-Asian racial attacks were actually included in the text:

    At the first few rallies they attended, Eric casually surveyed attendees, asking whether they had ever been spit on or pushed and what the race of the perpetrator was. “Everybody I talked to said it was from a Black person,” he told me. “I know it’s not a scientific poll or whatever.” The responses confirmed a thought in his mind all the same.
     

    For Sarah Wan, a community organizer who has been helping victims of violence in San Francisco, the debate brought back memories from 2010, when hundreds gathered outside City Hall to protest a series of similar reports. Among the most alarming were the stories of a 57-year-old Asian woman who was pushed off a railway platform onto the tracks, and an 83-year-old Asian man who died from a head injury after being assaulted by a group of boys. In each case, the suspects were Black.
     

    A few days later, Eric asked me if I saw the news about the recent attack on Carl Chan, the head of Oakland’s Chinatown Chamber of Commerce, who has been a vocal supporter of increasing foot patrols and camera surveillance in the neighborhood. Chan shared a photo of the person he said attacked him, who appeared to be Black, with reporters.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/magazine/vicha-ratanapakdee.html

    San Francisco is only 5% black and the entire Bay Area region perhaps 3%. Yet almost every case cited involved a black attacker. Given that those true and important facts managed to appear in such a high-profile NYT story on anti-Asian racial violence, I don't think it's fair to criticize the (Asian) writer too much for also including some extensive covering PC verbiage.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Redmen

    Thank you for those excerpted 3 paragraphs, Mr. Unz. I like your expression “extensive covering PC verbiage”, but man is this extensive! I am trying to see where your excerpts fit in with all the BS that Mr. Sailer shows us. I’ll tell you that I will almost NEVER click on the NY Times. I did this time to try to reconcile what you wrote here with the post. Sorry, they want me to make an account so F that. (I believe you, of course.)

    To me, Steve’s point is that the writer does every thing he* can to make this into an article about racism, which we all know means “White people BAD”, no matter what the facts are, even when a few are given. I know, you, me, Steve, and every commenter but Corvinus, if we had read the whole article, would dig out those facts and make the conclusion that “yes, no duh, black people commit most of the violence, and that goes against all races, Orientals not excluded”.

    Do you think the average NY Times reader would come to the same conclusion? I bet 95% of them, even of the ones that read the entire article, will get out of this: “White people bad. Poor Oriental people. More money for programs. More re-education.”

    Yeah, good on the guy for sticking in some facts, but he sure went hard-out stupid with all the rest. I mean, the one paragraph up there that starts with: “Jeung set up search alerts for “Asian American” and “discrimination.” has just SO much bullshit, one lie after another. I don’t know where to start with that. So much stupidity and so little time!

    PS: Note that the writer never comes up with any proposed solution with the words “black people” in it, not even a euphemism.

    .

    * I can’t tell he or she with that foreigner first name.

  72. @Federalist

    That January, an old man yelled at her . . . something about a virus and going back to her country . . .

    In February, two joggers, women, yelled something about germs at her older son . . .

    In March, . . . a woman swung at Monthanus outside a hospital . . .

    In November, another old man spat in her direction . . .
     
    LOL. None of that shit actually happened.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Exactly, Federalist – some of that was from the paragraph I noted in my reply to Ron Unz.

    Ha, the spitting in her direction. Well, a loogie will have an initial velocity vector. Being a vector quantity, it has both a direction AND magnitude. How far was the old man? How far can an old man spit? The details matter, or it’s just simple bullshit. Come to think of it, if anyone is going to be good at spitting, the chances are he (or she, of course!) is Oriental, OK, Chinese.

    Peak Stupidity elaborates in “Show me a nation that can enforce a social distance of 6 ft. …”

    .

    You guessed it, “… and I’ll show you a man who can hawk a loogie 7 ft.”

  73. A tall figure suddenly darts across a street and slams into a much smaller one

    Awful. “In thirty-five feet of water, the great fish swam slowly ..”

    The left-wing, always drunken reporters still haven’t figured out that crime-news consumers can watch the actual video, unfiltered, weeks before the dramatized, newspaper article appears.

  74. @Ron Unz
    Actually, the main thing that jumped out at me when I read the big NYT Magazine cover-story were the true facts about anti-Asian racial attacks were actually included in the text:

    At the first few rallies they attended, Eric casually surveyed attendees, asking whether they had ever been spit on or pushed and what the race of the perpetrator was. “Everybody I talked to said it was from a Black person,” he told me. “I know it’s not a scientific poll or whatever.” The responses confirmed a thought in his mind all the same.
     

    For Sarah Wan, a community organizer who has been helping victims of violence in San Francisco, the debate brought back memories from 2010, when hundreds gathered outside City Hall to protest a series of similar reports. Among the most alarming were the stories of a 57-year-old Asian woman who was pushed off a railway platform onto the tracks, and an 83-year-old Asian man who died from a head injury after being assaulted by a group of boys. In each case, the suspects were Black.
     

    A few days later, Eric asked me if I saw the news about the recent attack on Carl Chan, the head of Oakland’s Chinatown Chamber of Commerce, who has been a vocal supporter of increasing foot patrols and camera surveillance in the neighborhood. Chan shared a photo of the person he said attacked him, who appeared to be Black, with reporters.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/magazine/vicha-ratanapakdee.html

    San Francisco is only 5% black and the entire Bay Area region perhaps 3%. Yet almost every case cited involved a black attacker. Given that those true and important facts managed to appear in such a high-profile NYT story on anti-Asian racial violence, I don't think it's fair to criticize the (Asian) writer too much for also including some extensive covering PC verbiage.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Redmen

    I don’t think it’s fair to criticize the (Asian) writer too much for also including some extensive covering PC verbiage.

    Ron-did you mean to say ass-covering here?

  75. @anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    I thought "Brute" was some kind of Boomer aftershave. Like "Axe" is for GenZ .

    From the same edition of the NY Post, "Man punches woman".

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/woman-slaps-man-in-the-face-in-wild-steelers-game-fight/

    The vid shows the black guy pushes the bleached blonde, she slaps him, he punches her.

    Obviously a White Supremacist of some sort.

    Replies: @martin_2

    That’s correct. In the UK there was a brand of aftershave called “Brut”, and the celebrity advertising it was a popular boxer, Henry Cooper.

  76. More and more bad things are happening in the U.S. Some are unable to find any reasons why. Others blame straight white males.

    Fact: the fewer white straight males as a proportion of the population, the more bad things happen. This implies that as white straight males are reduced in number, the magic of each remaining one increases such that their aggregate evil magic is even higher.

    The baddest time will be when few of them are left. But when every last one is gone, everything will be good again.

    • Agree: Alden
  77. @J.Ross
    @El Dato

    "ACAB" = "All Cops Are Bastards"

    Replies: @ATate

    I always read it as;

    “All” “Criminals” “Are” “Black”

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
  78. @Mrwolf
    This is another case demonstrating that the negro cannot be considered equal to the human. The negro will often attack for no other reason than its feelings. When are we going to crackdown on these primates. Had a White been responsible for this vicious attack, he would be facing years of incarceration for a "Hate crime." This current BS that it's ok for a negro to rob, murder, steal....due to da slavery is just that BS. Time to hold the negro primate to the same standards as Whites are held to.

    Replies: @Truth

    This is another case demonstrating that the negro cannot be considered equal to the human.

    Maybe, but the opposite is generally true…

    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshhm9GkE0QD1BHyat5l

  79. @Jim Christian
    @Dissident

    In my black-averse White separatist region, you can take a walk, walk a poodle, hell, leash a canary and walk THAT. Since there are no blacks within the couple of thousands square miles around us, walk to your heart's content, 24/7. The solution is to get AWAY from the real danger, blacks. Admitting that simple truth will set you free. You have to get away.

    Replies: @Pissedoffalese, @Ian Smith

    Same here. Gotta put up with howling drunks and methheads staggering around at three a.m., serious firework wars on the 4th of July (competitions, more like), but nobody gets attacked unless they deserve it (other than general Redneck mayhem such as bar fights, etc.), like for spitting on someone or getting caught stealing a bicycle. Then they get the shit stomped out of them, and mostly leave town because the gossip grapevine around here is FEARSOME.

    So, there’s pretty much NO crime. I love it. No black people either–well maybe 10 or so, but they are well-aware of how this place works. All my neighbors seem to have cameras mounted outside, too–even the druggies, so no one gets away with anything.

    How things should be, I suppose, except for the cameras. Kinda don’t like that, but hey, if the government can spy on everything, why not?

    So inclined, I could walk around here at any time of night and not worry. I don’t, because I can barely see, and we have some ferocious deer around here, among other critters. But other people do with no problem. I’ve been here since 2019, and I think there’s been one murder. Domestic dispute is my understanding.

    Oddly, the place is FULL of ex-cons. I guess they all headed for whiteyville after experiencing the joys of diversity. No trouble at all, and everyone knows who they are and what they did, so that keeps them on their toes. No perves, mostly imprisoned just for fighting, drugs, DUIs, and one arsonist whacked-out veteran of the Forever Wars.

  80. @Dissident
    @El Dato


    Can you all please stop going to these gas stations, going to these late-night stores, going to get your midnight snack, walking your dog at 12, 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning by yourself?
     
    Incidentally, while acknowledging vast, absolutely critical differences in degree, one still must wonder:
    Just how many times and places was being out between ~midnight and dawn ever that prudent for anyone, let alone a female or minor alone?

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Buffalo Joe

    Dis, carjackings are now a major crime in many cities, regardless of time of day. Pull into a station to gas up and the armed punk is at your side in a heart beat. In Cleveland, at the Jesuit prep HS, a young student walking to his car was jacked in broad daylight on school grounds, behind the faux wrought iron fence. He was robbed of his backpack, laptop, cell phone and car. This in Daylight at a well known Prep school with on site security. Oh, and in daylight in Cleveland, parking lot of Target, Giant Eagle and a bank. Brazen.

  81. Whatever happened to “deescalation”? Or simple good manners?

    Man punches woman after she slaps him at Steelers game

  82. @Anon
    @Desiderius

    Desiderius, that seems like pretty motivated reasoning to interpret that chart in that way.

    It shows a slightly higher chance of a positive culture for a given viral load. But knowing that the vaccinated tend to have a higher viral load when infected negates the entire argument.

    The meaningful part of the graph is the slope of the line. And it shows a slope that is - not identical - but very close between the vaccinated and unvaccinated lines. Close enough that it doesn't seem like cause for celebration.

    You also have to consider that the unvaccinated are more likely to be running around with active viral load and no symptoms. This makes them even more likely to be out in the community shedding virus around the vulnerable.

    I'm not an anti-vaxxer but the polarization on this issue has made people unable to to think logically about things. I think the vaccine is nothing short of a miracle, but there are reasonable concerns to be had about the way it is being presented to the public.

    Replies: @HA, @V. Hickel

    “It shows a slightly higher chance of a positive culture for a given viral load. But knowing that the vaccinated tend to have a higher viral load when infected negates the entire argument.”

    Where are you seeing that they have a “higher viral load”? The “vaccinated” graph is always lower than the “unvaccinated” in terms of “probability of culture positivity” Furthermore, to the extent the vaccinated have a shorter and milder disease progression, they’re going to be doing a lot less infecting.

    “The meaningful part of the graph is the slope of the line. And it shows a slope that is – not identical – but very close between the vaccinated and unvaccinated lines.”

    The slopes seem substantially different to me, and I fail to see why slope is more meaningful than the fact that “vaxxed” is everywhere shallower and lower than the “unvaxxed”. Moreover, the above point about how many days a vaxxed COVID case sheds vs. one who is vaccinated remains:

    The study’s analyses of PCR test results also suggest that fully vaccinated people may be less likely than unvaccinated people to pass the virus on to others, due to having a smaller viral load on average and therefore likely shedding less virus.

    “You also have to consider that the unvaccinated are more likely to be running around with active viral load and no symptoms. This makes them even more likely to be out in the community shedding virus around the vulnerable.”

    I see your point there — to the extent the unvaxxed are more likely to be exhaling into ventilators or else packed away in morgues not exhaling at all, then the vaxxed are in that sense more dangerous, but back when there were no vaccines, things were far gloomier. Again, the excess deaths graph that the CDC has been throughout COVID serves as a useful benchmark. The post-vaccine behavior still shows a bit of an elevation relative to the last couple of years displayed in the graph, but the overall US death rate — despite the delta surge — has been just about normal for several months, so whatever COVID is killing among the unvaxxed is not enough to exceed whatever reduction in deaths the delays in elective surgery or the cancelled vacation trips are causing. That may change once we get into the flu season, but it’s hard to argue against the notion that so far at least, we’re in a far better place.

    True, we might all have to do without Eric Clapton concerts and celebrating “bear week at Provincetown” for a bit longer, but I’m pretty sure that won’t be the end of us.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @HA

    You liars were claiming two weeks a year and a half ago. Did you get that? A year and a half ago. A year and a half of your masks and lockdowns. How long, HA? Don't slime out and say "a little longer" like the liar you are. Give us a hard number. How much longer does the entire world remain under the boot of fearmongers like you before its over?

    And nobody gives a shit about Eric Clapton concerts, liar. Normal people want to get on with their lives free of pearl clutching, pseudo authoritarian kovid kultists like you flailing your syringes at everyone.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HA

  83. @Foreign Expert
    Why can’t we refer to all blacks as Africans?

    Replies: @El Dato

    Recently we switched to Dinger I think.

  84. @HA
    @Anon

    "It shows a slightly higher chance of a positive culture for a given viral load. But knowing that the vaccinated tend to have a higher viral load when infected negates the entire argument."

    Where are you seeing that they have a "higher viral load"? The "vaccinated" graph is always lower than the "unvaccinated" in terms of "probability of culture positivity" Furthermore, to the extent the vaccinated have a shorter and milder disease progression, they're going to be doing a lot less infecting.

    "The meaningful part of the graph is the slope of the line. And it shows a slope that is – not identical – but very close between the vaccinated and unvaccinated lines."

    The slopes seem substantially different to me, and I fail to see why slope is more meaningful than the fact that "vaxxed" is everywhere shallower and lower than the "unvaxxed". Moreover, the above point about how many days a vaxxed COVID case sheds vs. one who is vaccinated remains:


    The study’s analyses of PCR test results also suggest that fully vaccinated people may be less likely than unvaccinated people to pass the virus on to others, due to having a smaller viral load on average and therefore likely shedding less virus.
     
    "You also have to consider that the unvaccinated are more likely to be running around with active viral load and no symptoms. This makes them even more likely to be out in the community shedding virus around the vulnerable."

    I see your point there -- to the extent the unvaxxed are more likely to be exhaling into ventilators or else packed away in morgues not exhaling at all, then the vaxxed are in that sense more dangerous, but back when there were no vaccines, things were far gloomier. Again, the excess deaths graph that the CDC has been throughout COVID serves as a useful benchmark. The post-vaccine behavior still shows a bit of an elevation relative to the last couple of years displayed in the graph, but the overall US death rate -- despite the delta surge -- has been just about normal for several months, so whatever COVID is killing among the unvaxxed is not enough to exceed whatever reduction in deaths the delays in elective surgery or the cancelled vacation trips are causing. That may change once we get into the flu season, but it's hard to argue against the notion that so far at least, we're in a far better place.

    True, we might all have to do without Eric Clapton concerts and celebrating "bear week at Provincetown" for a bit longer, but I'm pretty sure that won't be the end of us.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    You liars were claiming two weeks a year and a half ago. Did you get that? A year and a half ago. A year and a half of your masks and lockdowns. How long, HA? Don’t slime out and say “a little longer” like the liar you are. Give us a hard number. How much longer does the entire world remain under the boot of fearmongers like you before its over?

    And nobody gives a shit about Eric Clapton concerts, liar. Normal people want to get on with their lives free of pearl clutching, pseudo authoritarian kovid kultists like you flailing your syringes at everyone.

    • Agree: V. Hickel
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mike Tre

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/Flatten_The_Curve_Groundhog_Day.jpg

    , @HA
    @Mike Tre

    "You liars were claiming two weeks a year and a half ago. "

    Was I really? A year and a half you say? Was this about the same time as "you" were claiming it was just the flu or praising the so-called experts assuring us that 10K was all this thing would ever kill so that whatever it was that we were supposed to be doing to flatten the curve was something you weren't going to bother with? Now that's what I call lying, given what's happened in the year and half since, but strangely enough, that seems to have slipped your mind.

    "Don’t slime out and say “a little longer” like the liar you are."

    No one's forcing you to vaxx up and get over your fear of needles, snowflake -- rest easy. If you're still not being allowed to venture out of your mother's basement, that's between you and the court appointed psychiatrist, if I were to take a guess. And the ultimate point of my comment was that as far as the killing was concerned, COVID seems to be pretty well spent, delta variants notwithstanding. I don't know whether it's over for good, but to the extent that even good news like that -- and note we were able to reach that point without the "supply chain" ever collapsing or whatever else it was you were screaming about all the while you were accusing others of fearmongering -- was not enough to forestall yet another one of your incessant conniptions, don't complain to others about their demands never being enough. You and your crybaby friends need to look in the mirror for that, though you'll probably want to wipe away your salty little tears first.

  85. Jeung set up search alerts for “Asian American” and “discrimination.”

    The Z Man has a trope about how “future ape historians” will imagine this or that scandal/hubbub/happening currently in the news & the idiom that month. I could imagine those historians well enjoying the bizarre sentence above

  86. @Mike Tre
    @HA

    You liars were claiming two weeks a year and a half ago. Did you get that? A year and a half ago. A year and a half of your masks and lockdowns. How long, HA? Don't slime out and say "a little longer" like the liar you are. Give us a hard number. How much longer does the entire world remain under the boot of fearmongers like you before its over?

    And nobody gives a shit about Eric Clapton concerts, liar. Normal people want to get on with their lives free of pearl clutching, pseudo authoritarian kovid kultists like you flailing your syringes at everyone.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HA

    • Agree: Mike Tre, 3g4me
  87. @Jim Christian
    @Dissident

    In my black-averse White separatist region, you can take a walk, walk a poodle, hell, leash a canary and walk THAT. Since there are no blacks within the couple of thousands square miles around us, walk to your heart's content, 24/7. The solution is to get AWAY from the real danger, blacks. Admitting that simple truth will set you free. You have to get away.

    Replies: @Pissedoffalese, @Ian Smith

    We can’t keep running forever.

  88. @Reg Cæsar


    Throughout 2020, multiple strangers had come at her seemingly out of nowhere.
     
    Strangers are obviously white. After all, whites make up the vast majority of the population in San Francisco.
     
    Alden. Rosie. And especially AtillaTheHen, who has it in for Derb.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mike Tre

    AtH was the best. Comedy gold mine afaic.

  89. “several, um… businesses”

  90. @Anon
    @Desiderius

    Desiderius, that seems like pretty motivated reasoning to interpret that chart in that way.

    It shows a slightly higher chance of a positive culture for a given viral load. But knowing that the vaccinated tend to have a higher viral load when infected negates the entire argument.

    The meaningful part of the graph is the slope of the line. And it shows a slope that is - not identical - but very close between the vaccinated and unvaccinated lines. Close enough that it doesn't seem like cause for celebration.

    You also have to consider that the unvaccinated are more likely to be running around with active viral load and no symptoms. This makes them even more likely to be out in the community shedding virus around the vulnerable.

    I'm not an anti-vaxxer but the polarization on this issue has made people unable to to think logically about things. I think the vaccine is nothing short of a miracle, but there are reasonable concerns to be had about the way it is being presented to the public.

    Replies: @HA, @V. Hickel

    how is a “vaccine” that has killed thousands and sickened countless others, while failing to prevent the disease ‘miraculous’?

    • Replies: @HA
    @V. Hickel

    "how is a “vaccine” that has killed thousands and sickened countless others, while failing to prevent the disease ‘miraculous’?"

    It didn't fail to prevent deaths and ICU visits -- at least, not if one goes through the trouble and (zero) expense of actually taking it. Again, one only needs to look at the CDC excess death toll graph I linked to earlier to see some clear evidence of that. Even if all those "thousands" that the vaccine allegedly killed were true (which it isn't, just like the allegations of "crisis actors" pretending to be nurses and doctors in those completely empty hospitals weren't true), the number of COVID deaths the vaccine is preventing is evidently far greater. I mean, seat belts kill thousands, too -- sometimes they trap you, sometimes they strangle you, or whatever. That doesn't mean the odds of you surviving the next trip are better, but only if you make the effort to strap one on. The ones still doing the dying and ventilator huffing for the most part didn't bother with actually taking the vaccine, so stop blaming them on the vaccine.

    To be fair, I wouldn't claim this was all that miraculous either. I'd say it's actually a lot like the regular flu vaccine, which is pretty lame some years too, and each year they have to formulate a new batch to keep track of the latest variants. But even on those years when the regular flu vaccine is weak, it will still (just like the COVID vaccine) "reduce severity of illness in people who get vaccinated but still get sick." So at least in that very limited sense, COVID kinda IS like the flu, at least a little. I.e. the just-a-flu bros finally got one right, kinda, and it only took them a year and a half. So let's all give a slow handclap to the just-a-flu bros -- there's something for everyone to be pleased about at this point, if they'd only stop shaking their little fists in the air long enough to see it.

    Replies: @anon

  91. @InnerCynic
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thai. The family name gives it away

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Thai. The family name gives it away

    Lao have lengthy monikers, too. Chinese in SE Asia will also adopt local names.

    Asians seem strangely drawn to the extremes of name length. It’s either one syllable (China, Korea, Vietnam) or many (Thailand, Laos, India, Ceylon).

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
    @Reg Cæsar

    I married a Thai lady. Her family name wasn't so bad though I find others to be tongue twisters in the extreme. Lao would be similar and Indian or Sri Lankan are literally impossible. But thats just me.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar


    (Thailand, Laos, India, Ceylon).
     
    That's Siam, if you don't mind! Young punks...

    (Thanks for Ceylon though.)

  92. @InnerCynic
    An elderly Thai man is murdered by an ignorant black animal. What is to discuss? I won't fall for the "hate crime" mantra, because thats when you play by the enemies rules, but this ignorant piece of shit is guilty of killing a man. Full stop.

    Replies: @3g4me

    @54 Inner Cynic: “An elderly Thai is murdered by an ignorant black animal.”

    Perhaps the elderly Thai ought to have remained in his own country which remains massively homogeneous, with no danger from ignorant black animals. Then Americans wouldn’t have to pay for him, be accused of racism towards him, and read stories designed to evoke guilt and pity for this parasitic alien.

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
    @3g4me

    I see. So if he was simply visiting his kin, as was explained to me by my Thai wife, its simply too fucking bad that he was murdered. I really don't care which nationality or ethnicity of the gentleman who was murdered but the bastard responsible deserves a bullet to the head. Such evil stupidity doesn't warrant forgiveness.

    Replies: @3g4me

    , @üeljang
    @3g4me

    A huge segment of the population of Thailand is of recent Chinese ancestry, and genetic investigations have revealed that a large percentage of supposedly native Thai people actually possess ancient Indian ancestry. Besides this mixed background of the majority "Thai" population, Thailand also has a great number of ethnolinguistic minorities, some closely related with the Thais (e.g. Lao and Lanna people) and others not so closely related in an ethnolinguistic sense (e.g. Mon, Khmer, Lawa, Mal, Bru, Karen, Hmong).

    Replies: @3g4me

  93. @Alden
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Don’t forget 1 San Francisco cop murdered and one blinded when Boudin’s adopted mother, Bernadette Dohrn bombed Park Police Station.

    Dorhn used her prison time to get a mail order law degree. She can’t be licensed to practice law admitted to the bar in Illinois because if her extensive felony record But as soon as she was released from prison she became a law professor at Illinois’ most prestigious university Northwestern A year or 2 later she was relieved of the arduous duty of teaching and became highly paid executive director of some Children’s Civil Rights institution at Northwestern law school.

    Of course her father in law was a trustee of Northwestern. a military contractor and one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the state. There are hundreds of Children’s Legal Aid Foundations. They were formed to impose black thuggery bullying and crime on public schools. Then turned turned to lowering the age of consent. Segued into homosexual bullying in schools . Now sex changes.

    Don’t forget Boudin’s grandfather Leonard attorney for the communist party . And great grandfather Boudin who landed at Ellis Island and was a founder of the Yiddish speaking USA communist party

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    Of course her father in law was a trustee of Northwestern. a military contractor and one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the state.

    You sure about this? The Dohrn Transport clan is an entirely different family. Bernardine’s father Bernard (shades of Stanley/Stanley Ann) was Orenstein, and changed the name when Bernie Jr was a teen. He was apparently a middle class clerk.

    https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-1993/Rebel-Without-a-Pause/

    Probably saw the name on a truck.


    (Oops. Just noticed that you wrote “father-in-law”, not father. Still, it’s refreshing to learn there’s no connection to those trucks I see all the time on the highway.)

    Bernardine grew up in Whitefish Bay, which has its own Santa Monica Boulevard along with a Hollywood Avenue. Who do they think they’re kidding?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Not father: father in law, her husband Bill Ayers father. General Dynamics military and CIA contractor the biggest gas and electric company in Illinois and southern Wisconsin trustee of Northwestern university Many other boards and commissions vast connections to TPTB in business and federal government. Whitefish Bay wealthiest and most Jewish suburb of Milwaukee Full of Jewish lawyers suing Milwaukee on behalf of school bussing, unchecked black crime and all the nasty things Jewish lawfare has imposed on us.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

  94. @Pericles

    Antoine Watson, the 19-year-old accused of shoving Vicha to death,

     

    Watson is a white name, isn't it? Case closed.

    One witness at the scene told officers that he saw “a Black male, 18 to 30 years old,” approach and “stand over” an elderly man lying on the ground. Another witness said he heard a voice yelling: “Why you looking at me? Why you looking at me?” and then “a crushing sound.”

     

    Reminds me that when I last visited San Francisco some years ago, I was mock charged by a chubby black student in his 20s. I suppose I must have looked at him a bit too long as we passed each other in the street? Well, it never got very serious but still seemed a bit odd.

    Replies: @Alden

    Innocent youngster only shoved Vicha. Just a gentle shove as he gives old ladies. He had no intention of hurting or knocking down Vicha.

    Or. The innocent youngster didn’t really shove Vicha. Gentle youngster thought Vicha need a helping hand to prevent falling and stumbling.

    Law is an adversarial system. But in San Fransicko The prosecutor and the defense are on the same side.

  95. @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    Of course her father in law was a trustee of Northwestern. a military contractor and one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the state.
     
    You sure about this? The Dohrn Transport clan is an entirely different family. Bernardine's father Bernard (shades of Stanley/Stanley Ann) was Orenstein, and changed the name when Bernie Jr was a teen. He was apparently a middle class clerk.


    https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-1993/Rebel-Without-a-Pause/


    Probably saw the name on a truck.


    https://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wvik/files/styles/x_large/public/201802/dohrn_truck.jpg

    (Oops. Just noticed that you wrote "father-in-law", not father. Still, it's refreshing to learn there's no connection to those trucks I see all the time on the highway.)


    Bernardine grew up in Whitefish Bay, which has its own Santa Monica Boulevard along with a Hollywood Avenue. Who do they think they're kidding?

    Replies: @Alden

    Not father: father in law, her husband Bill Ayers father. General Dynamics military and CIA contractor the biggest gas and electric company in Illinois and southern Wisconsin trustee of Northwestern university Many other boards and commissions vast connections to TPTB in business and federal government. Whitefish Bay wealthiest and most Jewish suburb of Milwaukee Full of Jewish lawyers suing Milwaukee on behalf of school bussing, unchecked black crime and all the nasty things Jewish lawfare has imposed on us.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden

    Vdare.com is defending a Jewish lawyer who was roundly criticized by goyim of all stripes:


    https://vdare.com/posts/linda-fairstein-suit-against-netflix-for-lies-about-the-prosecution-of-the-guilty-central-park-five

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  96. @Nicholas Stix
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Are you telling me that Chesa Boudin's terrorist parents named him after cop-killing, black supremacist terrorist, Joanne Chesimard?

    Replies: @Alden, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    And whadya know, Cuomo refers Chesa’s terrorist father for parole today on his way out, even though he was sentenced to 75 to life w/out possibility of parole. Scum.

  97. @Reg Cæsar
    @InnerCynic


    Thai. The family name gives it away

     

    Lao have lengthy monikers, too. Chinese in SE Asia will also adopt local names.


    Asians seem strangely drawn to the extremes of name length. It's either one syllable (China, Korea, Vietnam) or many (Thailand, Laos, India, Ceylon).

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @Achmed E. Newman

    I married a Thai lady. Her family name wasn’t so bad though I find others to be tongue twisters in the extreme. Lao would be similar and Indian or Sri Lankan are literally impossible. But thats just me.

  98. @3g4me
    @InnerCynic

    @54 Inner Cynic: "An elderly Thai is murdered by an ignorant black animal."

    Perhaps the elderly Thai ought to have remained in his own country which remains massively homogeneous, with no danger from ignorant black animals. Then Americans wouldn't have to pay for him, be accused of racism towards him, and read stories designed to evoke guilt and pity for this parasitic alien.

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @üeljang

    I see. So if he was simply visiting his kin, as was explained to me by my Thai wife, its simply too fucking bad that he was murdered. I really don’t care which nationality or ethnicity of the gentleman who was murdered but the bastard responsible deserves a bullet to the head. Such evil stupidity doesn’t warrant forgiveness.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @3g4me
    @InnerCynic

    @92 InnerCynic: Nowhere did I suggest the sub-Saharan killer "warranted" forgiveness - I'm the last to offer such to an alien and animalistic sub-species. I'm simply noting that all these Asians being preyed upon by blacks wouldn't be subject to such predatory behavior if they had remained in their own countries. Unlike Sailer's right-liberal commentariat, I am not traumatized by media hectoring that Whites are somehow responsible for Asian immigrants' health, safety, and self esteem. Regardless of individual character or perceived virtue, I want no non-White colonizers and invaders. Whereas you, having married one, obviously have different priorities.

    Replies: @InnerCynic

  99. @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Not father: father in law, her husband Bill Ayers father. General Dynamics military and CIA contractor the biggest gas and electric company in Illinois and southern Wisconsin trustee of Northwestern university Many other boards and commissions vast connections to TPTB in business and federal government. Whitefish Bay wealthiest and most Jewish suburb of Milwaukee Full of Jewish lawyers suing Milwaukee on behalf of school bussing, unchecked black crime and all the nasty things Jewish lawfare has imposed on us.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

  100. @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Not father: father in law, her husband Bill Ayers father. General Dynamics military and CIA contractor the biggest gas and electric company in Illinois and southern Wisconsin trustee of Northwestern university Many other boards and commissions vast connections to TPTB in business and federal government. Whitefish Bay wealthiest and most Jewish suburb of Milwaukee Full of Jewish lawyers suing Milwaukee on behalf of school bussing, unchecked black crime and all the nasty things Jewish lawfare has imposed on us.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Vdare.com is defending a Jewish lawyer who was roundly criticized by goyim of all stripes:

    https://vdare.com/posts/linda-fairstein-suit-against-netflix-for-lies-about-the-prosecution-of-the-guilty-central-park-five

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    It's not just because she's in the right and that the since-let-loose Central Park Jogger killers are involved. Also, VDare rightly has its own libel suits, so the results here matter for their cases.

  101. @AndrewR
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    "Assata" is openly a hero to the BLM terrorists that the elites promote. Never forget these people want you dead. I'm hardly a fan of cops but when they celebrate killing white cops, they're celebrating killing whites.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    AndrewR wrote:

    Never forget these people want you dead. I’m hardly a fan of cops but when they celebrate killing white cops, they’re celebrating killing whites.

    Oh, the ruling elite, the parasitic verbalist overclass, does not just want White people dead.

    They do not care when Asian-Americans are killed, as the original post illustrates, or, for that matter, when innocent Blacks or Hispanics or killed. Just as long as the members of the ruling elite are safe in their elite enclaves.

    Which is why Larry Elder just might be the next governor of California. We’ve had enough.

    • Agree: Prester John
  102. @Mike Tre
    @HA

    You liars were claiming two weeks a year and a half ago. Did you get that? A year and a half ago. A year and a half of your masks and lockdowns. How long, HA? Don't slime out and say "a little longer" like the liar you are. Give us a hard number. How much longer does the entire world remain under the boot of fearmongers like you before its over?

    And nobody gives a shit about Eric Clapton concerts, liar. Normal people want to get on with their lives free of pearl clutching, pseudo authoritarian kovid kultists like you flailing your syringes at everyone.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HA

    “You liars were claiming two weeks a year and a half ago. “

    Was I really? A year and a half you say? Was this about the same time as “you” were claiming it was just the flu or praising the so-called experts assuring us that 10K was all this thing would ever kill so that whatever it was that we were supposed to be doing to flatten the curve was something you weren’t going to bother with? Now that’s what I call lying, given what’s happened in the year and half since, but strangely enough, that seems to have slipped your mind.

    “Don’t slime out and say “a little longer” like the liar you are.”

    No one’s forcing you to vaxx up and get over your fear of needles, snowflake — rest easy. If you’re still not being allowed to venture out of your mother’s basement, that’s between you and the court appointed psychiatrist, if I were to take a guess. And the ultimate point of my comment was that as far as the killing was concerned, COVID seems to be pretty well spent, delta variants notwithstanding. I don’t know whether it’s over for good, but to the extent that even good news like that — and note we were able to reach that point without the “supply chain” ever collapsing or whatever else it was you were screaming about all the while you were accusing others of fearmongering — was not enough to forestall yet another one of your incessant conniptions, don’t complain to others about their demands never being enough. You and your crybaby friends need to look in the mirror for that, though you’ll probably want to wipe away your salty little tears first.

  103. @3g4me
    @InnerCynic

    @54 Inner Cynic: "An elderly Thai is murdered by an ignorant black animal."

    Perhaps the elderly Thai ought to have remained in his own country which remains massively homogeneous, with no danger from ignorant black animals. Then Americans wouldn't have to pay for him, be accused of racism towards him, and read stories designed to evoke guilt and pity for this parasitic alien.

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @üeljang

    A huge segment of the population of Thailand is of recent Chinese ancestry, and genetic investigations have revealed that a large percentage of supposedly native Thai people actually possess ancient Indian ancestry. Besides this mixed background of the majority “Thai” population, Thailand also has a great number of ethnolinguistic minorities, some closely related with the Thais (e.g. Lao and Lanna people) and others not so closely related in an ethnolinguistic sense (e.g. Mon, Khmer, Lawa, Mal, Bru, Karen, Hmong).

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @üeljang

    @97 ueljang: I have visited Thailand (and enjoyed it) and a friend's wife is Thai. But unlike most here, I can separate personal or individual relationships from what is best for my race and nation. And Asian immigration is a net negative for Whites. As I have no divided loyalties and believe that preferring one's own is natural, I refuse to apologize for such belief, particularly to those who have chosen to miscegenate and, to justify their own personal choices, conflate individuals with national policy to sooth their own consciences.

  104. @Alden
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Don’t forget 1 San Francisco cop murdered and one blinded when Boudin’s adopted mother, Bernadette Dohrn bombed Park Police Station.

    Dorhn used her prison time to get a mail order law degree. She can’t be licensed to practice law admitted to the bar in Illinois because if her extensive felony record But as soon as she was released from prison she became a law professor at Illinois’ most prestigious university Northwestern A year or 2 later she was relieved of the arduous duty of teaching and became highly paid executive director of some Children’s Civil Rights institution at Northwestern law school.

    Of course her father in law was a trustee of Northwestern. a military contractor and one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the state. There are hundreds of Children’s Legal Aid Foundations. They were formed to impose black thuggery bullying and crime on public schools. Then turned turned to lowering the age of consent. Segued into homosexual bullying in schools . Now sex changes.

    Don’t forget Boudin’s grandfather Leonard attorney for the communist party . And great grandfather Boudin who landed at Ellis Island and was a founder of the Yiddish speaking USA communist party

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    ‘…Don’t forget Boudin’s grandfather Leonard attorney for the communist party . And great grandfather Boudin who landed at Ellis Island and was a founder of the Yiddish speaking USA communist party.

    Huh. So the Boudins were Jewish. What are the odds?

  105. Anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Reader comments are open for this piece at the New York Times, and readers are not buying the narrative.These are literally the top reader up-voted comments, with from 270 to 166 "Recommended" votes each:

    James
    California
    Aug. 17

    The author goes out of the way to avoid mentioning the elephant in the room: black on asian crime has long been a facet of the Bay Area.

    Peter
    San Francisco
    Aug. 17

    The article reports, "(Chesa) Boudin (the San Francisco DA) had told reporters that there was no evidence from the police suggesting that Vicha’s death was motivated by racial animus." ... Chesa Boudin is now the subject of a recall campaign here in San Francisco. I signed the petition to recall him.


    John
    New Jersey
    Aug. 17

    So the article mentions the Capitol riot (had nothing to do with this crime) , an old man yelling an anti-Asian slur, and activists that imply that white people are the problem. Then curiously there is little discussion about the perpetrator, who was Black. Why is that? Why is there always this narrative?

    James
    New York, NY
    Aug. 17

    "But the overwhelming majority of hate-crime perpetrators are white."

    Interestingly, the Justice Dept website indicates that 52.5% of known offenders in 2019 were white, much less than the white share of the population.

    23.9% of offenders were Black or African American, while representing ~13% of the U.S. population. One can do the math (note: which cases do you think are left unreported?).

     

    Replies: @Anon

    There are 140 comments on the article so far, and in addition to comments criticizing the piece are completely unselfaware comments like:

    Pedna
    Vancouver
    Aug. 19

    Reading this article, I feel I lucked out, or is Vancouver different? After retirement I moved into an apartment building where one comes across people from just about all cultures and religions (no Blacks, we don’t have many Blacks in Vancouver). It has become a family, one does not think about cultural or racial identities of the neighbours. We speak the same human language; neighbours are decent, helpful and friendly. Why is difficult to have similar atmosphere in other neighbourhoods?

    He asks:

    “[My] neighbours are decent, helpful and friendly. Why is difficult to have similar atmosphere in other neighbourhoods?”

    Earlier in his comment:

    “(no Blacks, we don’t have many Blacks in Vancouver)”

    I wonder what the difference could be between San Francisco and Vancouver? At any rate, let’s send them some Afghans.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon

    I wonder what the difference could be between San Francisco and Vancouver?

    There was a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine back in the 1980's comparing murder rates in Seattle vs. Vancouver. The lead, one Arthur Kellerman, concluded that Vancouver's lower murder rate was mainly due to Canadian gun laws vs. US / Washington gun laws. In that report it was obvious that the largest minority in Vancouver was Chinese and other East Asians, while the largest minority in Seattle was African-Americans. This paper glided right past this report, even though from the data presented the white murder rate in both cities was essentially the same. I'm pretty sure that Noticing the last fact was even then a crimethink.

    Personally, I recall walking back to a hotel late at night in Zurich one time. A Swiss city where every guy over 18 had a fully automatic weapon in his closet. I also recall walking back to a hotel not so late at night in Chicago, a city with stricter gun control than most European countries. One walk was no big deal, the other was rather tense. I'm sure the astute reader can guess which was which.

    In a managerial context it is not unusual to say "Personnel is policy", but we are forbidden to Notice in cities like Chicago that "personnel is culture". Oh, well, the Victorians supposedly put cloth over the legs limbs of their pianofortes, to avoid vulgar sights and words. At least that bizarre belief was mostly harmless. The same cannot be said of "paint theory".

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @Joe Stalin

  106. @Polistra
    @El Dato

    Wasn't there persuasive evidence from the UK that mixing vaccine types enhanced resistance? Might it be a good idea to get a Pfizer booster if you have had the Moderna vaccine and vice versa? Not that the authorities will permit it, but still.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yes that’s the ticket. The Pfizer booster adds this little nuance, the Moderna dose another, then the AstraZeneca is the cherry on top!

    (Or, this is a neurotic fantasy).

    • LOL: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    2 shots of Southern Comfort with it all and you're golden. I feel fine.

  107. @V. Hickel
    @Anon

    how is a "vaccine" that has killed thousands and sickened countless others, while failing to prevent the disease 'miraculous'?

    Replies: @HA

    “how is a “vaccine” that has killed thousands and sickened countless others, while failing to prevent the disease ‘miraculous’?”

    It didn’t fail to prevent deaths and ICU visits — at least, not if one goes through the trouble and (zero) expense of actually taking it. Again, one only needs to look at the CDC excess death toll graph I linked to earlier to see some clear evidence of that. Even if all those “thousands” that the vaccine allegedly killed were true (which it isn’t, just like the allegations of “crisis actors” pretending to be nurses and doctors in those completely empty hospitals weren’t true), the number of COVID deaths the vaccine is preventing is evidently far greater. I mean, seat belts kill thousands, too — sometimes they trap you, sometimes they strangle you, or whatever. That doesn’t mean the odds of you surviving the next trip are better, but only if you make the effort to strap one on. The ones still doing the dying and ventilator huffing for the most part didn’t bother with actually taking the vaccine, so stop blaming them on the vaccine.

    To be fair, I wouldn’t claim this was all that miraculous either. I’d say it’s actually a lot like the regular flu vaccine, which is pretty lame some years too, and each year they have to formulate a new batch to keep track of the latest variants. But even on those years when the regular flu vaccine is weak, it will still (just like the COVID vaccine) “reduce severity of illness in people who get vaccinated but still get sick.” So at least in that very limited sense, COVID kinda IS like the flu, at least a little. I.e. the just-a-flu bros finally got one right, kinda, and it only took them a year and a half. So let’s all give a slow handclap to the just-a-flu bros — there’s something for everyone to be pleased about at this point, if they’d only stop shaking their little fists in the air long enough to see it.

    • Replies: @anon
    @HA

    It didn’t fail to prevent deaths and ICU visits

    Prevent deaths is a pretty strong claim. You are asserting that not one person who received any of the Pfizer drug has died of COVID-19? There are people in Israel who disagree.

    Now, isn't it more of a "treatment", than a "vaccine"? Given that treatments exist which also reduce the probability of serious illness and death, such as Remdesivir and Ivermectin, and given the known decline in efficacy of the Pfizer drug, does it make sense to continue to employ a leaky vaccine? A leaky vaccine that continues to cause bad side effects, such as death? For example, it appears that more people under 30 have died from the vaccines than from SARS-2, is that acceptable to you?

    By the way, how does "gain of function" work?

    To be fair, I wouldn’t claim this was all that miraculous either.

    What led you to this remarkable change of opinion? Was it Pfizer admitting that efficacy drops every month? Or something else?

  108. Boat people, remember them from that SE Asia dustup a few score ago?
    Some relocated to Oakland and got hassled by a few locals.
    They didn’t respond as anticipated.
    Instead, they decapitated the ringleader and sent that gift back in a box.
    Locals left them alone after that.

  109. @InnerCynic
    @3g4me

    I see. So if he was simply visiting his kin, as was explained to me by my Thai wife, its simply too fucking bad that he was murdered. I really don't care which nationality or ethnicity of the gentleman who was murdered but the bastard responsible deserves a bullet to the head. Such evil stupidity doesn't warrant forgiveness.

    Replies: @3g4me

    @92 InnerCynic: Nowhere did I suggest the sub-Saharan killer “warranted” forgiveness – I’m the last to offer such to an alien and animalistic sub-species. I’m simply noting that all these Asians being preyed upon by blacks wouldn’t be subject to such predatory behavior if they had remained in their own countries. Unlike Sailer’s right-liberal commentariat, I am not traumatized by media hectoring that Whites are somehow responsible for Asian immigrants’ health, safety, and self esteem. Regardless of individual character or perceived virtue, I want no non-White colonizers and invaders. Whereas you, having married one, obviously have different priorities.

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
    @3g4me

    Murder is murder regardless of color or nation of origin. I respect your opinion with regards to what you see going on within this nation because I'm not blind. There is something extremely odd going on and has been so seemingly under the radar for quite some time. As far as the women thing its been curious. My own German mother told me as a teen not to consider marrying a German girl because she said they were "selfish" and I'd do better to look East and find someone more traditional. Now that came as quite a surprise coming from her mouth before I'd ever even met anyone. Mom? What would make you say that? This coming from a woman who experienced allied bombing in Germany. Sadly cancer took her before I could plumb the depths of her reasoning.

  110. @üeljang
    @3g4me

    A huge segment of the population of Thailand is of recent Chinese ancestry, and genetic investigations have revealed that a large percentage of supposedly native Thai people actually possess ancient Indian ancestry. Besides this mixed background of the majority "Thai" population, Thailand also has a great number of ethnolinguistic minorities, some closely related with the Thais (e.g. Lao and Lanna people) and others not so closely related in an ethnolinguistic sense (e.g. Mon, Khmer, Lawa, Mal, Bru, Karen, Hmong).

    Replies: @3g4me

    @97 ueljang: I have visited Thailand (and enjoyed it) and a friend’s wife is Thai. But unlike most here, I can separate personal or individual relationships from what is best for my race and nation. And Asian immigration is a net negative for Whites. As I have no divided loyalties and believe that preferring one’s own is natural, I refuse to apologize for such belief, particularly to those who have chosen to miscegenate and, to justify their own personal choices, conflate individuals with national policy to sooth their own consciences.

  111. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Anon

    There are 140 comments on the article so far, and in addition to comments criticizing the piece are completely unselfaware comments like:



    Pedna
    Vancouver
    Aug. 19

    Reading this article, I feel I lucked out, or is Vancouver different? After retirement I moved into an apartment building where one comes across people from just about all cultures and religions (no Blacks, we don't have many Blacks in Vancouver). It has become a family, one does not think about cultural or racial identities of the neighbours. We speak the same human language; neighbours are decent, helpful and friendly. Why is difficult to have similar atmosphere in other neighbourhoods?
     
    He asks:

    "[My] neighbours are decent, helpful and friendly. Why is difficult to have similar atmosphere in other neighbourhoods?"

    Earlier in his comment:

    "(no Blacks, we don't have many Blacks in Vancouver)"

    I wonder what the difference could be between San Francisco and Vancouver? At any rate, let's send them some Afghans.

    Replies: @anon

    I wonder what the difference could be between San Francisco and Vancouver?

    There was a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine back in the 1980’s comparing murder rates in Seattle vs. Vancouver. The lead, one Arthur Kellerman, concluded that Vancouver’s lower murder rate was mainly due to Canadian gun laws vs. US / Washington gun laws. In that report it was obvious that the largest minority in Vancouver was Chinese and other East Asians, while the largest minority in Seattle was African-Americans. This paper glided right past this report, even though from the data presented the white murder rate in both cities was essentially the same. I’m pretty sure that Noticing the last fact was even then a crimethink.

    Personally, I recall walking back to a hotel late at night in Zurich one time. A Swiss city where every guy over 18 had a fully automatic weapon in his closet. I also recall walking back to a hotel not so late at night in Chicago, a city with stricter gun control than most European countries. One walk was no big deal, the other was rather tense. I’m sure the astute reader can guess which was which.

    In a managerial context it is not unusual to say “Personnel is policy”, but we are forbidden to Notice in cities like Chicago that “personnel is culture”. Oh, well, the Victorians supposedly put cloth over the legs limbs of their pianofortes, to avoid vulgar sights and words. At least that bizarre belief was mostly harmless. The same cannot be said of “paint theory”.

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
    @anon

    I lived and worked in Japan for several years and never felt safer. I took long walks at night to simply relax and any sense of danger never was there. It's difficult to explain if you've never experienced it before but it was amazing. Once I returned to the states that old feeling of dread descended upon me again. Luckily I now live in an area that is very peaceful and is the antithesis of any place like Chicago.

    , @Joe Stalin
    @anon


    A Swiss city where every guy over 18 had a fully automatic weapon in his closet.
     
    Visit to a Swiss gun shop.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOErri-3Z5E

    Replies: @Truth

  112. @3g4me
    @InnerCynic

    @92 InnerCynic: Nowhere did I suggest the sub-Saharan killer "warranted" forgiveness - I'm the last to offer such to an alien and animalistic sub-species. I'm simply noting that all these Asians being preyed upon by blacks wouldn't be subject to such predatory behavior if they had remained in their own countries. Unlike Sailer's right-liberal commentariat, I am not traumatized by media hectoring that Whites are somehow responsible for Asian immigrants' health, safety, and self esteem. Regardless of individual character or perceived virtue, I want no non-White colonizers and invaders. Whereas you, having married one, obviously have different priorities.

    Replies: @InnerCynic

    Murder is murder regardless of color or nation of origin. I respect your opinion with regards to what you see going on within this nation because I’m not blind. There is something extremely odd going on and has been so seemingly under the radar for quite some time. As far as the women thing its been curious. My own German mother told me as a teen not to consider marrying a German girl because she said they were “selfish” and I’d do better to look East and find someone more traditional. Now that came as quite a surprise coming from her mouth before I’d ever even met anyone. Mom? What would make you say that? This coming from a woman who experienced allied bombing in Germany. Sadly cancer took her before I could plumb the depths of her reasoning.

  113. @anon
    @Anon

    I wonder what the difference could be between San Francisco and Vancouver?

    There was a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine back in the 1980's comparing murder rates in Seattle vs. Vancouver. The lead, one Arthur Kellerman, concluded that Vancouver's lower murder rate was mainly due to Canadian gun laws vs. US / Washington gun laws. In that report it was obvious that the largest minority in Vancouver was Chinese and other East Asians, while the largest minority in Seattle was African-Americans. This paper glided right past this report, even though from the data presented the white murder rate in both cities was essentially the same. I'm pretty sure that Noticing the last fact was even then a crimethink.

    Personally, I recall walking back to a hotel late at night in Zurich one time. A Swiss city where every guy over 18 had a fully automatic weapon in his closet. I also recall walking back to a hotel not so late at night in Chicago, a city with stricter gun control than most European countries. One walk was no big deal, the other was rather tense. I'm sure the astute reader can guess which was which.

    In a managerial context it is not unusual to say "Personnel is policy", but we are forbidden to Notice in cities like Chicago that "personnel is culture". Oh, well, the Victorians supposedly put cloth over the legs limbs of their pianofortes, to avoid vulgar sights and words. At least that bizarre belief was mostly harmless. The same cannot be said of "paint theory".

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @Joe Stalin

    I lived and worked in Japan for several years and never felt safer. I took long walks at night to simply relax and any sense of danger never was there. It’s difficult to explain if you’ve never experienced it before but it was amazing. Once I returned to the states that old feeling of dread descended upon me again. Luckily I now live in an area that is very peaceful and is the antithesis of any place like Chicago.

  114. Why use the term “Asian elders”? Newspapers also described 65-year-old Native-American activist Nathan Phillips as an “elder”. Why don’t they ever call white guys “elders”? The term is just patronizing Orientalism.

  115. @Reg Cæsar
    @InnerCynic


    Thai. The family name gives it away

     

    Lao have lengthy monikers, too. Chinese in SE Asia will also adopt local names.


    Asians seem strangely drawn to the extremes of name length. It's either one syllable (China, Korea, Vietnam) or many (Thailand, Laos, India, Ceylon).

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @Achmed E. Newman

    (Thailand, Laos, India, Ceylon).

    That’s Siam, if you don’t mind! Young punks…

    (Thanks for Ceylon though.)

  116. @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden

    Vdare.com is defending a Jewish lawyer who was roundly criticized by goyim of all stripes:


    https://vdare.com/posts/linda-fairstein-suit-against-netflix-for-lies-about-the-prosecution-of-the-guilty-central-park-five

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s not just because she’s in the right and that the since-let-loose Central Park Jogger killers are involved. Also, VDare rightly has its own libel suits, so the results here matter for their cases.

  117. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Polistra

    Yes that's the ticket. The Pfizer booster adds this little nuance, the Moderna dose another, then the AstraZeneca is the cherry on top!

    (Or, this is a neurotic fantasy).

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    2 shots of Southern Comfort with it all and you’re golden. I feel fine.

  118. @anon
    @Anon

    I wonder what the difference could be between San Francisco and Vancouver?

    There was a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine back in the 1980's comparing murder rates in Seattle vs. Vancouver. The lead, one Arthur Kellerman, concluded that Vancouver's lower murder rate was mainly due to Canadian gun laws vs. US / Washington gun laws. In that report it was obvious that the largest minority in Vancouver was Chinese and other East Asians, while the largest minority in Seattle was African-Americans. This paper glided right past this report, even though from the data presented the white murder rate in both cities was essentially the same. I'm pretty sure that Noticing the last fact was even then a crimethink.

    Personally, I recall walking back to a hotel late at night in Zurich one time. A Swiss city where every guy over 18 had a fully automatic weapon in his closet. I also recall walking back to a hotel not so late at night in Chicago, a city with stricter gun control than most European countries. One walk was no big deal, the other was rather tense. I'm sure the astute reader can guess which was which.

    In a managerial context it is not unusual to say "Personnel is policy", but we are forbidden to Notice in cities like Chicago that "personnel is culture". Oh, well, the Victorians supposedly put cloth over the legs limbs of their pianofortes, to avoid vulgar sights and words. At least that bizarre belief was mostly harmless. The same cannot be said of "paint theory".

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @Joe Stalin

    A Swiss city where every guy over 18 had a fully automatic weapon in his closet.

    Visit to a Swiss gun shop.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Joe Stalin

    Hope they can hold off Russian/Chinese Armored Divisions.

    Replies: @anon

  119. Check this article out Steve:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cheerleaders-allegedly-greeted-by-racist-taunts-by-opposing-fans-in-southern-california/ar-AANHgtU?ocid=msedgntp

    It might be the perfect template for: How To Write About Lintinx On Black Crime In S. California.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Five of Valley View's 17 cheerleaders are Black.

    Temecula Valley High School's student body is nearly 49 percent white and less than 3 percent Black
     
    Lol.

    Hmm. "Nearly" 49 percent plus "less than 3 percent" doesn't add up to 100 percent. What could be missing?


    "It hurts," Tony Kingsberry, a Black man whose 14-year-old daughter attends Temecula Valley High School, told NBC Los Angeles on Monday. "And people just don't understand that pain."
     
    Melodramatic emoting.

    Replies: @epebble

  120. @Dave Pinsen
    I thought this post was going to be about the latest attack on an Asian reported in New York.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1429623208324575237?s=20

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @anon, @El Dato, @Muggles

    “Brute”?

    I was just getting to like “jogger.”

  121. @Anon
    Do you notice how nonwhite senior citizens are always referred to as "elders," implying some sort of special wisdom and painting a picture of younger people visiting them to bow, pay respects, and ask for wisdom or conflict resolution per the ancient ways. This is so even if they are just fixed-incomers who watch TV all day and who don't even get visits from family members.

    Whites are "seniors" at best, grumpy old jerk-asses who need to die or get with the woke program at worst.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Westerners (i.e. boomers) don’t like being called old, even if they are. ‘Elder’ would be taken as an insult. ‘Senior’ is a euphemism which has no association with age per se.

  122. “No one’s forcing you to vaxx up and get over your fear of needles, snowflake”

    that right there is a 100% fucking lie.

  123. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Check this article out Steve:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cheerleaders-allegedly-greeted-by-racist-taunts-by-opposing-fans-in-southern-california/ar-AANHgtU?ocid=msedgntp

    It might be the perfect template for: How To Write About Lintinx On Black Crime In S. California.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Five of Valley View’s 17 cheerleaders are Black.

    Temecula Valley High School’s student body is nearly 49 percent white and less than 3 percent Black

    Lol.

    Hmm. “Nearly” 49 percent plus “less than 3 percent” doesn’t add up to 100 percent. What could be missing?

    “It hurts,” Tony Kingsberry, a Black man whose 14-year-old daughter attends Temecula Valley High School, told NBC Los Angeles on Monday. “And people just don’t understand that pain.”

    Melodramatic emoting.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @William Badwhite

    From 2010 Census:

    The racial makeup of Temecula was 70.8% White (57.2% Non-Hispanic White), 4.1% African American, 1.1% Native American, 9.8% Asian, 0.4% Pacific Islander, 7.9% from other races, and 5.9% from two or more races. There were 24. 7% people of Hispanic or Latino origin, of any race.

  124. anon[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @HA
    @V. Hickel

    "how is a “vaccine” that has killed thousands and sickened countless others, while failing to prevent the disease ‘miraculous’?"

    It didn't fail to prevent deaths and ICU visits -- at least, not if one goes through the trouble and (zero) expense of actually taking it. Again, one only needs to look at the CDC excess death toll graph I linked to earlier to see some clear evidence of that. Even if all those "thousands" that the vaccine allegedly killed were true (which it isn't, just like the allegations of "crisis actors" pretending to be nurses and doctors in those completely empty hospitals weren't true), the number of COVID deaths the vaccine is preventing is evidently far greater. I mean, seat belts kill thousands, too -- sometimes they trap you, sometimes they strangle you, or whatever. That doesn't mean the odds of you surviving the next trip are better, but only if you make the effort to strap one on. The ones still doing the dying and ventilator huffing for the most part didn't bother with actually taking the vaccine, so stop blaming them on the vaccine.

    To be fair, I wouldn't claim this was all that miraculous either. I'd say it's actually a lot like the regular flu vaccine, which is pretty lame some years too, and each year they have to formulate a new batch to keep track of the latest variants. But even on those years when the regular flu vaccine is weak, it will still (just like the COVID vaccine) "reduce severity of illness in people who get vaccinated but still get sick." So at least in that very limited sense, COVID kinda IS like the flu, at least a little. I.e. the just-a-flu bros finally got one right, kinda, and it only took them a year and a half. So let's all give a slow handclap to the just-a-flu bros -- there's something for everyone to be pleased about at this point, if they'd only stop shaking their little fists in the air long enough to see it.

    Replies: @anon

    It didn’t fail to prevent deaths and ICU visits

    Prevent deaths is a pretty strong claim. You are asserting that not one person who received any of the Pfizer drug has died of COVID-19? There are people in Israel who disagree.

    Now, isn’t it more of a “treatment”, than a “vaccine”? Given that treatments exist which also reduce the probability of serious illness and death, such as Remdesivir and Ivermectin, and given the known decline in efficacy of the Pfizer drug, does it make sense to continue to employ a leaky vaccine? A leaky vaccine that continues to cause bad side effects, such as death? For example, it appears that more people under 30 have died from the vaccines than from SARS-2, is that acceptable to you?

    By the way, how does “gain of function” work?

    To be fair, I wouldn’t claim this was all that miraculous either.

    What led you to this remarkable change of opinion? Was it Pfizer admitting that efficacy drops every month? Or something else?

  125. @Joe Stalin
    @anon


    A Swiss city where every guy over 18 had a fully automatic weapon in his closet.
     
    Visit to a Swiss gun shop.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOErri-3Z5E

    Replies: @Truth

    Hope they can hold off Russian/Chinese Armored Divisions.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Truth

    Retarded

  126. @Truth
    @Joe Stalin

    Hope they can hold off Russian/Chinese Armored Divisions.

    Replies: @anon

    Retarded

    • Agree: Tony massey
  127. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1429449468261322759?s=20

    Replies: @El Dato, @Dissident, @reactionry, @anon, @Anon, @InnerCynic, @Chrisnonymous

    Interesting comments on that graph in the comments section on medrxiv.

  128. @donut
    What a pack of lies starting with " An uneasiness had hung over her ever since a mob descended on the Capitol early that month" . And now we have the Asian version of the ADL , Stop AAPI Hate .
    “Remember Vincent Chin,” who was beaten to death by two white men in Detroit in 1982. " What the hell while we're remembering let's remember Pearl Harbor . Oops , sorry .

    Replies: @anon

    An uneasiness had hung over her ever since a mob descended on the Capitol early that month”

    “The uneasiness was hanging over her like the clouds on a dark and stormy night.”

  129. @William Badwhite
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Five of Valley View's 17 cheerleaders are Black.

    Temecula Valley High School's student body is nearly 49 percent white and less than 3 percent Black
     
    Lol.

    Hmm. "Nearly" 49 percent plus "less than 3 percent" doesn't add up to 100 percent. What could be missing?


    "It hurts," Tony Kingsberry, a Black man whose 14-year-old daughter attends Temecula Valley High School, told NBC Los Angeles on Monday. "And people just don't understand that pain."
     
    Melodramatic emoting.

    Replies: @epebble

    From 2010 Census:

    The racial makeup of Temecula was 70.8% White (57.2% Non-Hispanic White), 4.1% African American, 1.1% Native American, 9.8% Asian, 0.4% Pacific Islander, 7.9% from other races, and 5.9% from two or more races. There were 24. 7% people of Hispanic or Latino origin, of any race.

  130. Anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dissident
    @Desiderius

    Neither pathogens nor vaccines care what you think of them.

    ‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients


    Dr. Brytney Cobia said Monday that all but one of her COVID patients in Alabama did not receive the vaccine. The vaccinated patient, she said, just needed a little oxygen and is expected to fully recover. Some of the others are dying.

    “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”
     
    A Florida mom lost her 2 sons to COVID-19 in the span of 12 hours after they refused to get the vaccine

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-160/#comment-4852542


    Wife of 'healthy and active' unvaccinated father-of-three, 36, who died from COVID-19 says she's filled with regret

    Phil Valentine, a radio host who scoffed at Covid, then urged his followers to get vaccinated, dies.

    Covid cases overwhelm the Gulf Coast, leaving region with no I.C.U. beds.

    3 Alaska Airlines employees die of COVID in a month as leadership moves toward vaccination mandate

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Stealth, @Desiderius, @anon, @Anon

    As long as we’re swapping anecdotes for whatever reason, the doubly-vaccinated former Finance Minister of Sri Lanka just died of COVID, very shortly after your comment was posted:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangala_Samaraweera#Death

    He is only the second Sri Lankan politician to die of the disease at all.

  131. @Alden
    3 points 1 Asians vote solidly democrat. 2 Asians voted for Chesa Boudin not his law and order opponent. 3 the reasons blacks aren’t attacking Whites in San Francisco anymore is that there are so few left.

    The census claims San Francisco is about 40 percent asian. It’s far far more than that. It’s not just the thousands of illegals who don’t fill out the census forms. Even 6th generation California Asians don’t fill out the census forms.

    Replies: @gandydancer

    3 the reasons blacks aren’t attacking Whites in San Francisco anymore is that there are so few left.

    There are plenty of whites in SF. Even if you don’t believe the Census’ plurality number, there are lots. As everywhere black violence is disproportionately against blacks, for reasons of convenience and shared criminality, but your premise is aggressively stupid nonsense.

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