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I can’t say this is 100% legit, but it looks plausible:

Sketches used by the Soviet police to identify suspects based on ethnicity, 1960s

Everybody is drawn to look like a character actor, except the Gypsy who is portrayed as a leading man.

 
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  1. Off topic: NYT is disgusting. They word a paragraph in an article on WW2 Nazis at Wannsee, planning the final solution, in a very misleading way.

    The anniversary of that fateful meeting has a special resonance at a time when survivors of the Holocaust are dwindling and antisemitism and the ideology of white supremacy are resurgent in Europe and the United States along with attacks targeting Jewish people and ethnic minorities. Just last Saturday a man took a rabbi and three members of his congregation hostage in a synagogue in Texas.

    Someone reading this without knowing the story would assume that Texas synagogue attack was carried out by a white supremacist. In fact, attacks by whites on Jews are declining. Fanatical Muslims are a much bigger danger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/europe/lake-wannsee-conference-final-solution-holocaust.html

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Frau Katze

    The bigger problem is that "mainstream" information distributors are routinely pushing out fake or inaccurate info, which is mortifying and outrageous.

    How do we stop this? How can we bring information distributors under the authority of rigorous and omnipotent auditors? Publishing fake or inaccurate news shouldn't be legal. There's no point in having media or journals if they're not going to effectively review their content before it gets published.

    This includes the right wing disinfo sources, which are real. I'm sure most will agree that the media was better before the internet, when there were real costs associated with publishing peinted news, and a much higher standards of review, and most importantly, no anonymity. There were fewer typos back then as well, and more sensible, digestible graphical info.

    We have to have auditors of what's being written before it gets published, at least for major outlets. The current information freeflow is culturally corrosive and anti-social.

    , @Right_On
    @Frau Katze

    On the Wannsee Conference: when we today hear the phrase “The Final Solution to the Jewish Question”, we reflexively understand it as unambiguously implying ‘extermination’, but for the attendees, including Reinhard Heydrich, could it not have just referred to the suggested resettlement of Jews - after the anticipated victory over Stalin - in old Soviet Gulag camps?

    Your essential point that anti-Semitism is endemic in Muslim communities is undeniable. And admitted even by liberal Muslim apologists.

    , @Anon
    @Frau Katze

    Why would you adopt your enemy's anti-white language? Whites and Muslims have our differences but we have a shared interest in ending Jewish supremacy and fighting Jewish supremacist terrorism (whether it be in Palestine or American schools).

    , @Gordo
    @Frau Katze

    I thought even Yad Vashem agreed that the Wannsee conference didn’t take place?

    , @Moses
    @Frau Katze

    Beside the point.

    As Elie Wiesel might say, “Never happened but true.” I.e., sure the perp here was Muslim but all you Whites are potential Cossacks to us Jews.

    Replies: @Derer

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Frau Katze

    It's almost as though they hate us and want our people destroyed, which justifies in their minds any form of deceit.

    Speaking of danger, who's more of a danger to gentile whites, fanatical Muslims or establishment Jews?

    Just kidding. We all know the answer.

    , @AndrewR
    @Frau Katze

    "Fanatical Muslims" who attack Jews are infinitely whiter than you, Chaim.

  2. OT: According to a news story in Science magazine:

    U.S. science no longer leads the world. Here’s how top advisers say the nation should respond

    The accompanying photo suggests that they will not be solving the problem any time soon.

    [MORE]

    • LOL: Kylie, Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Wade Hampton
    @James N. Kennett

    Imagine my surprise.

    , @Moses
    @James N. Kennett

    I've got school age kids. Every glossy or website about science features only blacks, browns and girls. It's like White boys just disappeared from Science.

  3. The Gypsy is the only one whose neck is twisted and collar unbuttoned.
    I guess Siberia doesn’t have a type–they take whoever they can get.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Ralph L


    he Gypsy is the only one whose neck is twisted and collar unbuttoned
     
    There's probably an art-world name for that classic head-slightly-twisted heroic pose, which seems to me to have started in the late Hellenic period with depictions of Alexander the Great.

    https://p4.storage.canalblog.com/47/30/119589/62190808_p.jpg
  4. So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, “Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no ‘ocean’.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Reg Cæsar

    Agreed about the Tatar. And he is the leading man in serious drama. The Gypsy is light comedy or minor vehicles for tenors. The Turkmen was great in “Escape From New York”.

    , @OFWHAP
    @Reg Cæsar

    I believe Uzbekistan and Liechtenstein are the only two double-landlocked countries in the world. This means that they are landlocked countries that only border other landlocked countries.

    , @jamie b.
    @Reg Cæsar

    Stalin seemed more Azerbaijani than Georgian, but maybe that was just the mustache.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin
     
    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn't Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I'm sure I've seen them here before.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @nebulafox, @xxxeliss, @Kent Benson, @Paperback Writer, @OFWHAP, @Muggles

    , @Verymuchalive
    @Reg Cæsar

    The gypsy looks like he was drawn by El Greco. His gracile features are unlike the vast majority of real gypsies. In real life, gypsies are much darker than those portrayed in plays or film. They look much more Indian ( non-feather variety ).

    , @al gore rhythms
    @Reg Cæsar

    I thought the Tatar was Bryan Cranston's character in Breaking Bad.

    Every unz commentator should be assigned one of these pictures next to their names, so we have some idea who we are dealing with.

    I'm calling first dibs on Latvia.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Daniel H
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?
     
    Lenin was part Tatar (Kalmyk). From what I understand, though the Tatars are largely Muslim, there is no animosity between Russians and Tatars.
    , @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sure enough, Lenin was a Swedo-Kalmyk metis. Thats why he looks like a Tartar.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://youtu.be/8hCCCRAcTAA

  5. Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Frau Katze
    Off topic: NYT is disgusting. They word a paragraph in an article on WW2 Nazis at Wannsee, planning the final solution, in a very misleading way.


    The anniversary of that fateful meeting has a special resonance at a time when survivors of the Holocaust are dwindling and antisemitism and the ideology of white supremacy are resurgent in Europe and the United States along with attacks targeting Jewish people and ethnic minorities. Just last Saturday a man took a rabbi and three members of his congregation hostage in a synagogue in Texas.
     
    Someone reading this without knowing the story would assume that Texas synagogue attack was carried out by a white supremacist. In fact, attacks by whites on Jews are declining. Fanatical Muslims are a much bigger danger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/europe/lake-wannsee-conference-final-solution-holocaust.html

    Replies: @Anon, @Right_On, @Anon, @Gordo, @Moses, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @AndrewR

    The bigger problem is that “mainstream” information distributors are routinely pushing out fake or inaccurate info, which is mortifying and outrageous.

    How do we stop this? How can we bring information distributors under the authority of rigorous and omnipotent auditors? Publishing fake or inaccurate news shouldn’t be legal. There’s no point in having media or journals if they’re not going to effectively review their content before it gets published.

    This includes the right wing disinfo sources, which are real. I’m sure most will agree that the media was better before the internet, when there were real costs associated with publishing peinted news, and a much higher standards of review, and most importantly, no anonymity. There were fewer typos back then as well, and more sensible, digestible graphical info.

    We have to have auditors of what’s being written before it gets published, at least for major outlets. The current information freeflow is culturally corrosive and anti-social.

    • Disagree: Chester
  6. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

    Agreed about the Tatar. And he is the leading man in serious drama. The Gypsy is light comedy or minor vehicles for tenors. The Turkmen was great in “Escape From New York”.

  7. I love the sketches, reminds of the faces the police publish of wanted suspects. They have an Etch-a-Sketch for perps. And then when they catch the guy he looks nothing like their sketch. I turned my cousin in for the reward because he looked like the FBI sketch for the Unabomber, who looked nothing like the face on the wanted poster, really wanted that reward. Cousin still doesn’t talk to me.

  8. OT. Two NYC cops shot tonight. One dead and the other in critical condition.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Buffalo Joe

    And Mayor Adams blames guns, which are already effectively banned. And wildfires in California. Are the reptoid overseers vacationing, and leaving the similation on re-run?
    ---------
    funniest headline related to Ukraine mess: Erdogan (fresh off economic humilation) desperately trying to find a way to get in on Russia-Ukraine dispute
    ---------
    Extremely bad storm in Ukraine capital -- is it as bad as the freak once-in-a-century storm which just happened to strike Iraq as we invaded?
    ----------
    The illegitimate and overwhelmed American elite already used a plague to head off a revolt and possibly to enable sweeping economic reforms. Would they be above trying to use war with Russia toward the same ends?

    , @hhsiii
    @Buffalo Joe

    Yeah, and two shot and survived earlier this week in Staten Island (not by Pete Davidson) and the Bronx.

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Buffalo Joe

    Buffalo Joe, from the New York Times online edition.


    2021 was a deadly year for police in the U.S., a nonprofit group says.

    The fatal shooting of a New York City police officer on Friday follows a deadly 2021 for law enforcement nationally, with a substantial increase in duty-related deaths from gunfire and other causes reported last year, according to a nonprofit group that maintains a website honoring fallen officers.

    The Officer Down Memorial Page said 62 law enforcement officers in the United States were killed by gunfire last year, up from 45 in 2020. Over the last decade, that figure has ranged from a low of 34 in 2013 to a high of 68 in 2011, according to the website.

    Another group, the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, reported a similar number of officers killed with firearms last year: 61. That represented a 36 percent increase from the year before, according to a preliminary report from the group.

    “The leading circumstance of firearms fatalities were officers killed in ambush-style attacks,” the report said. “A total of 19 officers were killed in ambush attacks in 2021, a significant increase over only 6 such attacks in 2020.”

    The F.B.I. said in October that 59 officers nationwide had been assaulted and killed in the line of duty in the first three quarters of 2021, a 51 percent increase from the same period in 2020.

    According to the Officer Down site, a total of 512 officers died in the line of duty last year. But that figure includes 350 deaths from Covid-19, up from 256 in 2020. The site reported a total of 387 line-of-duty deaths for 2020.

    — Vimal Patel
     

    I wonder how long that item will stay up there, unedited and unshaped by the NYT's usual narrative take.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @Buffalo Joe

    In a surprise twist [not], the gunman was out on probation.

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1484787246322810880

    Replies: @J.Ross


  9. That chart is interesting historically, but in today’s social-media age, it would be hard not to revert to stereotypes. The Moldovan who comes to mind for me is the Moldovan dancer who distracted the captain while the Costa Concordia sank. If you say “Russian” I picture Putin bare-chested on horseback, and everything else disappears, because it’s hard to keep two things in mind at the same time.

  10. nooone cares about your bleating. Whites will liberate themselves too- not just heroes like that brave Pakistani man.

  11. Don’t count the Tatar out as leading man material:

    Also, noice how the Jew looks like a young Moldovan?

    *Strokes beard.*

  12. @Frau Katze
    Off topic: NYT is disgusting. They word a paragraph in an article on WW2 Nazis at Wannsee, planning the final solution, in a very misleading way.


    The anniversary of that fateful meeting has a special resonance at a time when survivors of the Holocaust are dwindling and antisemitism and the ideology of white supremacy are resurgent in Europe and the United States along with attacks targeting Jewish people and ethnic minorities. Just last Saturday a man took a rabbi and three members of his congregation hostage in a synagogue in Texas.
     
    Someone reading this without knowing the story would assume that Texas synagogue attack was carried out by a white supremacist. In fact, attacks by whites on Jews are declining. Fanatical Muslims are a much bigger danger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/europe/lake-wannsee-conference-final-solution-holocaust.html

    Replies: @Anon, @Right_On, @Anon, @Gordo, @Moses, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @AndrewR

    On the Wannsee Conference: when we today hear the phrase “The Final Solution to the Jewish Question”, we reflexively understand it as unambiguously implying ‘extermination’, but for the attendees, including Reinhard Heydrich, could it not have just referred to the suggested resettlement of Jews – after the anticipated victory over Stalin – in old Soviet Gulag camps?

    Your essential point that anti-Semitism is endemic in Muslim communities is undeniable. And admitted even by liberal Muslim apologists.

  13. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

    I believe Uzbekistan and Liechtenstein are the only two double-landlocked countries in the world. This means that they are landlocked countries that only border other landlocked countries.

  14. The Lithuanian looks like the Chad meme guy.

  15. Anonymous[345] • Disclaimer says:

    Unfortunately, Roma these days tend to be high body fat percentage especially as they age, similarly to other subcontinentals, so few of them look like leading men. I realize the same could be said regarding most groups in the West to some extent, but the near-uniformity of flabbiness is striking especially because Roma used to tend to be quite skinny (again like other subcontinentals, some still are.) Of course, it’s easy enough to figure out what changed…

  16. Uzbeks. Never trust them.

    • LOL: 36 ulster
  17. It’s fairly accurate. The russian is portrayed with a hint of mongol, seeing as they’ve been getting raped by them for centuries. Those type of people are called “bydlo” in polite conversation.

  18. More importantly, how do you tell the difference between a Russian girl and Ukrainian girl working at the same massage parlor?

  19. So essentially, it’s pretty damn hard to tell Russians and Ukrainians apart. I must say the Turkmen looks rather menacing. It doesn’t help that it appears that he’s a follower of the religion of peace.

  20. The 3 Baltic guys seem to be the less threatening of the group.

  21. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

    Stalin seemed more Azerbaijani than Georgian, but maybe that was just the mustache.

  22. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

    So the Tatar is Lenin

    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn’t Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I’m sure I’ve seen them here before.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Almost Missouri


    I’m sure I’ve seen them here before
     
    You have:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/stereotypes-of-criminals-in-san-francisco-vs-russia/

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @nebulafox
    @Almost Missouri

    Yeah. Some of the last holdouts for the Whites were Buryats.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Mikhaylovich_Semyonov

    Once the USSR became a Marxist version of the old Russian imperium, Siberian riflemen went back to their old ways just in time for WWII.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Okhlopkov

    , @xxxeliss
    @Almost Missouri

    a significant percentage of Tatars have Russian or Ukranian ascentry, also most Tatars are only nominally Muslim

    , @Kent Benson
    @Almost Missouri

    Lenin was half Russian, half chuvash.

    The chuvash don’t rate a place on the sketch.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Almost Missouri

    Lenin was part Kalmyk, which is not pictured.


    Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

     

    Really? Nureyev's parents gladly forsook Islam for Communism. His grandfather had been a mullah. You will probably dismiss my example as anecdotal, but what evidence do you have for your statement?

    Replies: @Evocatus, @Almost Missouri

    , @OFWHAP
    @Almost Missouri

    The young Russian lady who won gold in figure skating during the 2018 Winter Olympics is a Tatar I believe.

    , @Muggles
    @Almost Missouri

    According to Robert Service's bio of Lenin (Lenin) Lenin himself though only of slightly "Tartar" (or Mongol) ancestry, or some other Asiatic heritage, was teased and gossiped about in Russia when growing up as not being really "Russian" due to this.

    He had that slight central Asian aspect that Russians associate with rural primitive upbringing.

    Some of his political foes also cited this as a reason to dislike him/his politics.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

  23. The mustache on the Georgian looks accurate, but he should probably be drawn with a mullet.

    Also, it’s extremely triggering that all of the sketches for the suspects are men. I’m extremely micro-offended – and maybe even a little – a very little – macro-offended.

    • LOL: Lurker
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Wilkey


    The mustache on the Georgian looks accurate, but he should probably be drawn with a mullet.
     
    In the 1960s any man who walked around in public in the USSR with long hair would probably have been brought in by the militsia for questioning, and at the very least would have had to answer questions at his place of employment and been given a haircut courtesy of the state.
    , @Bill Jones
    @Wilkey


    Also, it’s extremely triggering that all of the sketches for the suspects are men.
     
    I find it disturbing that you assume that members of the Trans community are not doing their share of the heavy lifting.

    (Shops are pretty heavy, no?)
  24. >no section on telling Western Ukrainians apart from Eastern Ukrainians
    It’s all do much dumber than we’ve been lead to believe.

  25. @Buffalo Joe
    OT. Two NYC cops shot tonight. One dead and the other in critical condition.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Almost Missouri

    And Mayor Adams blames guns, which are already effectively banned. And wildfires in California. Are the reptoid overseers vacationing, and leaving the similation on re-run?
    ———
    funniest headline related to Ukraine mess: Erdogan (fresh off economic humilation) desperately trying to find a way to get in on Russia-Ukraine dispute
    ———
    Extremely bad storm in Ukraine capital — is it as bad as the freak once-in-a-century storm which just happened to strike Iraq as we invaded?
    ———-
    The illegitimate and overwhelmed American elite already used a plague to head off a revolt and possibly to enable sweeping economic reforms. Would they be above trying to use war with Russia toward the same ends?

  26. Imagine what the police sketches of some of the ethnic groups – e.g., Uzbek, Tatar and Turkmen – would look like today after two more generations of cousin marriages?

  27. @Buffalo Joe
    OT. Two NYC cops shot tonight. One dead and the other in critical condition.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Almost Missouri

    Yeah, and two shot and survived earlier this week in Staten Island (not by Pete Davidson) and the Bronx.

  28. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin
     
    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn't Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I'm sure I've seen them here before.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @nebulafox, @xxxeliss, @Kent Benson, @Paperback Writer, @OFWHAP, @Muggles

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Stan Adams

    Thanks. How did you find that? Or did you just happen to remember it?

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  29. @Buffalo Joe
    OT. Two NYC cops shot tonight. One dead and the other in critical condition.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Almost Missouri

    Buffalo Joe, from the New York Times online edition.

    2021 was a deadly year for police in the U.S., a nonprofit group says.

    The fatal shooting of a New York City police officer on Friday follows a deadly 2021 for law enforcement nationally, with a substantial increase in duty-related deaths from gunfire and other causes reported last year, according to a nonprofit group that maintains a website honoring fallen officers.

    The Officer Down Memorial Page said 62 law enforcement officers in the United States were killed by gunfire last year, up from 45 in 2020. Over the last decade, that figure has ranged from a low of 34 in 2013 to a high of 68 in 2011, according to the website.

    Another group, the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, reported a similar number of officers killed with firearms last year: 61. That represented a 36 percent increase from the year before, according to a preliminary report from the group.

    “The leading circumstance of firearms fatalities were officers killed in ambush-style attacks,” the report said. “A total of 19 officers were killed in ambush attacks in 2021, a significant increase over only 6 such attacks in 2020.”

    The F.B.I. said in October that 59 officers nationwide had been assaulted and killed in the line of duty in the first three quarters of 2021, a 51 percent increase from the same period in 2020.

    According to the Officer Down site, a total of 512 officers died in the line of duty last year. But that figure includes 350 deaths from Covid-19, up from 256 in 2020. The site reported a total of 387 line-of-duty deaths for 2020.

    — Vimal Patel

    I wonder how long that item will stay up there, unedited and unshaped by the NYT’s usual narrative take.

  30. A Google search for “How to Tell Russians from Ukrainians” brings what appears to be dozens of web pages and sites devoted to explaining the differences between Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @PiltdownMan

    Russians and Ukrainians are about as different as

    Texans and Vermonters

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @PiltdownMan

    I've noticed that after fifteen years of being exposed to Eastern Europeans, I'm starting to be able to tell my Poles from my Romanians, and both from my Balts.

    Some Lithuanian women are good looking, which I haven't really noticed with Romanians. And I've met several outstandingly attractive and intelligent Hungarian girls.

    Kosovan women, headscarved and with five kids in tow, or selling the Big Issue in my local High Street, are not attractive, save obviously to Kosovan men.

    Replies: @Rahan

    , @raga10
    @PiltdownMan


    Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.
     
    Georgian women beat them both! But if I had to pick between these two only, I'd definitely look at Ukrainians first. Appearance-vise Russians often have this sort of facial features I describe as "carved out of a potato" - Anna Kournikova was a perfect example of what I mean... Ukrainian women look more European.

    Replies: @annonymous, @NC

    , @Lurker
    @PiltdownMan

    I'd like to be able to better distinguish Russian from Ukrainian women. If someone could arrange for me to get as much hands-on experience as possible in furtherance of this research, that would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  31. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

    The gypsy looks like he was drawn by El Greco. His gracile features are unlike the vast majority of real gypsies. In real life, gypsies are much darker than those portrayed in plays or film. They look much more Indian ( non-feather variety ).

  32. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

    I thought the Tatar was Bryan Cranston’s character in Breaking Bad.

    Every unz commentator should be assigned one of these pictures next to their names, so we have some idea who we are dealing with.

    I’m calling first dibs on Latvia.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @al gore rhythms


    I’m calling first dibs on Latvia.
     
    Call me Uzbek.
  33. What’s up with the Moldovan? He looks like a character out of a B-series gangster film.
    Also I guess that the various Turkish ethnicities were cursed with early onset alopecia, except Azerbaijanis.

  34. @Buffalo Joe
    OT. Two NYC cops shot tonight. One dead and the other in critical condition.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Almost Missouri

    In a surprise twist [not], the gunman was out on probation.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Almost Missouri

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Does there remain anything clownworld has not thought of to get cops killed? Maybe Google could impose a Pokemon-like metaverse flagging, a virtual red arrow visible by device ("This guy! This guy right here!"), so unjailed murderers can find cops faster.
    Take off your uniform, stay fetal, let the upwardly mobile Democrat morons who voted for this swallow the whole portion of their desired regret.

  35. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    Lenin was part Tatar (Kalmyk). From what I understand, though the Tatars are largely Muslim, there is no animosity between Russians and Tatars.

  36. In a surprise twist

    ….OK ,that part was funny…..who says we can’t laugh while western civilization goes down the toilet.

  37. @PiltdownMan
    A Google search for "How to Tell Russians from Ukrainians" brings what appears to be dozens of web pages and sites devoted to explaining the differences between Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.

    Replies: @Anon, @YetAnotherAnon, @raga10, @Lurker

    Russians and Ukrainians are about as different as

    Texans and Vermonters

  38. @Almost Missouri
    @Buffalo Joe

    In a surprise twist [not], the gunman was out on probation.

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1484787246322810880

    Replies: @J.Ross

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Does there remain anything clownworld has not thought of to get cops killed? Maybe Google could impose a Pokemon-like metaverse flagging, a virtual red arrow visible by device (“This guy! This guy right here!”), so unjailed murderers can find cops faster.
    Take off your uniform, stay fetal, let the upwardly mobile Democrat morons who voted for this swallow the whole portion of their desired regret.

  39. Speaking of Russians and Ukrainians I saw a segment on Tucker last night about Hollins College. Apparently the (all-girls) school has angered some of their trans students by allowing some iterations of transdom but disallowing others. It caused a big bruhaha with lots of angry sniping back and forth. The thought occurred to me, “Yeah, and we’re going to fight the Russians in the snow.”

  40. @Wilkey
    The mustache on the Georgian looks accurate, but he should probably be drawn with a mullet.

    Also, it's extremely triggering that all of the sketches for the suspects are men. I'm extremely micro-offended - and maybe even a little - a very little - macro-offended.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Bill Jones

    The mustache on the Georgian looks accurate, but he should probably be drawn with a mullet.

    In the 1960s any man who walked around in public in the USSR with long hair would probably have been brought in by the militsia for questioning, and at the very least would have had to answer questions at his place of employment and been given a haircut courtesy of the state.

  41. Interesting there is no Pole or German, even though there were still millions of both in the USSR in the 1960s. The Germans presumably didn’t commit crime. The USSR preferred to ignore/suppress Polish identity in Lithuania, Belarus or Ukraine. The Belarussian fellow looks very Polish.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Peter Akuleyev

    They didn't really exist in the same way they did before the World Wars in the Tsarist era. What was left of the ethnic German community by 1945 knew well to suppress their heritage. Like the Jews, by the 1970s, ethnic Germans were discriminated against for higher education, etc: Andre Geim being one example of having the wrong sounding name.

    The effect of this is present in the ethnic Germans who resettled in Germany after 1990. Russo-Germans who have settled in the exurbs of Eastern Berlin are often monolingual in Russian. A limited parallel can be seen in Daerim with the Korean Chinese who made it to the ROK and their assimilation issues (the government has to inform them that this isn't China and the law matters here, etc) but they can't get away with speaking no Korean at all. In Marzahn, you can get away with little to no German, and the mentality is still very... Russian, for lack of a better word.

    As for the Poles living in places annexed by the USSR, they were all thrown out into Poland after the war. Sometimes whole communities were chosen to replace the Germans being kicked out of Silesia, Pomerania, and East/West Prussia. For example, Breslau was largely repopulated by Poles themselves recently expelled from Lwow.

    Replies: @siberiancat

    , @Evocatus
    @Peter Akuleyev

    A lot of the Poles and Germans were forcibly sent to places like Karaganda, Kazakhstan, where boxer Gennady Golovkin aka Triple G is from. In the case of the Germans, there were just under one million living in the Kazakh SSR where the Soviet Union collapsed; most have since returned to Germany.

  42. Would have been funny if for ‘jew’ they showed that picture of the hook nosed hand wringer that Anglin always posts.

  43. Everybody is drawn to look like a character actor, except the Gypsy who is portrayed as a leading man.

    Lulz … nailed it.

    I had an Azerbaijani colleague who was a dead-ringer for that guy.

    Did you notice the similarity between the facial features of the Ukranian and the Belarussian? Kind of suggests what might happen to half of Ukraine when Vlad gets done disarming it in a few weeks.

  44. OT Daniel Bolnick tweeted something that, with many goodthink caveats (RK is racist etc), criticized the way some academics were reacting to Razib Khan’s letter to SciAm re A.O.Wilson.

    Then he deleted the tweet and apologized. A hilarious Maoist struggle session ensues. The more grovelling his apologies, the more ferociously they are thrown back in his face.

    https://twitter.com/Hrazifard/status/1484660441301278729

  45. @Frau Katze
    Off topic: NYT is disgusting. They word a paragraph in an article on WW2 Nazis at Wannsee, planning the final solution, in a very misleading way.


    The anniversary of that fateful meeting has a special resonance at a time when survivors of the Holocaust are dwindling and antisemitism and the ideology of white supremacy are resurgent in Europe and the United States along with attacks targeting Jewish people and ethnic minorities. Just last Saturday a man took a rabbi and three members of his congregation hostage in a synagogue in Texas.
     
    Someone reading this without knowing the story would assume that Texas synagogue attack was carried out by a white supremacist. In fact, attacks by whites on Jews are declining. Fanatical Muslims are a much bigger danger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/europe/lake-wannsee-conference-final-solution-holocaust.html

    Replies: @Anon, @Right_On, @Anon, @Gordo, @Moses, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @AndrewR

    Why would you adopt your enemy’s anti-white language? Whites and Muslims have our differences but we have a shared interest in ending Jewish supremacy and fighting Jewish supremacist terrorism (whether it be in Palestine or American schools).

  46. @Frau Katze
    Off topic: NYT is disgusting. They word a paragraph in an article on WW2 Nazis at Wannsee, planning the final solution, in a very misleading way.


    The anniversary of that fateful meeting has a special resonance at a time when survivors of the Holocaust are dwindling and antisemitism and the ideology of white supremacy are resurgent in Europe and the United States along with attacks targeting Jewish people and ethnic minorities. Just last Saturday a man took a rabbi and three members of his congregation hostage in a synagogue in Texas.
     
    Someone reading this without knowing the story would assume that Texas synagogue attack was carried out by a white supremacist. In fact, attacks by whites on Jews are declining. Fanatical Muslims are a much bigger danger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/europe/lake-wannsee-conference-final-solution-holocaust.html

    Replies: @Anon, @Right_On, @Anon, @Gordo, @Moses, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @AndrewR

    I thought even Yad Vashem agreed that the Wannsee conference didn’t take place?

  47. @Frau Katze
    Off topic: NYT is disgusting. They word a paragraph in an article on WW2 Nazis at Wannsee, planning the final solution, in a very misleading way.


    The anniversary of that fateful meeting has a special resonance at a time when survivors of the Holocaust are dwindling and antisemitism and the ideology of white supremacy are resurgent in Europe and the United States along with attacks targeting Jewish people and ethnic minorities. Just last Saturday a man took a rabbi and three members of his congregation hostage in a synagogue in Texas.
     
    Someone reading this without knowing the story would assume that Texas synagogue attack was carried out by a white supremacist. In fact, attacks by whites on Jews are declining. Fanatical Muslims are a much bigger danger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/europe/lake-wannsee-conference-final-solution-holocaust.html

    Replies: @Anon, @Right_On, @Anon, @Gordo, @Moses, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @AndrewR

    Beside the point.

    As Elie Wiesel might say, “Never happened but true.” I.e., sure the perp here was Muslim but all you Whites are potential Cossacks to us Jews.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Moses

    Why is that? The tree leaves will not move without wind.

  48. @Peter Akuleyev
    Interesting there is no Pole or German, even though there were still millions of both in the USSR in the 1960s. The Germans presumably didn't commit crime. The USSR preferred to ignore/suppress Polish identity in Lithuania, Belarus or Ukraine. The Belarussian fellow looks very Polish.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Evocatus

    They didn’t really exist in the same way they did before the World Wars in the Tsarist era. What was left of the ethnic German community by 1945 knew well to suppress their heritage. Like the Jews, by the 1970s, ethnic Germans were discriminated against for higher education, etc: Andre Geim being one example of having the wrong sounding name.

    The effect of this is present in the ethnic Germans who resettled in Germany after 1990. Russo-Germans who have settled in the exurbs of Eastern Berlin are often monolingual in Russian. A limited parallel can be seen in Daerim with the Korean Chinese who made it to the ROK and their assimilation issues (the government has to inform them that this isn’t China and the law matters here, etc) but they can’t get away with speaking no Korean at all. In Marzahn, you can get away with little to no German, and the mentality is still very… Russian, for lack of a better word.

    As for the Poles living in places annexed by the USSR, they were all thrown out into Poland after the war. Sometimes whole communities were chosen to replace the Germans being kicked out of Silesia, Pomerania, and East/West Prussia. For example, Breslau was largely repopulated by Poles themselves recently expelled from Lwow.

    • Thanks: Gordo
    • Replies: @siberiancat
    @nebulafox


    by the 1970s, ethnic Germans were discriminated against for higher education, etc: Andre Geim being one example of having the wrong sounding name.
     
    Andre Geim would be a very bad example for your point. After all, he's gotten into a very selective MIPT.
    There were quotes for Jews. I have not heard of quotes for Germans. Even with the Jews, my academic group at MIPT had two Jewish guys out of a dozen.
  49. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin
     
    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn't Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I'm sure I've seen them here before.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @nebulafox, @xxxeliss, @Kent Benson, @Paperback Writer, @OFWHAP, @Muggles

    Yeah. Some of the last holdouts for the Whites were Buryats.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Mikhaylovich_Semyonov

    Once the USSR became a Marxist version of the old Russian imperium, Siberian riflemen went back to their old ways just in time for WWII.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Okhlopkov

  50. @PiltdownMan
    A Google search for "How to Tell Russians from Ukrainians" brings what appears to be dozens of web pages and sites devoted to explaining the differences between Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.

    Replies: @Anon, @YetAnotherAnon, @raga10, @Lurker

    I’ve noticed that after fifteen years of being exposed to Eastern Europeans, I’m starting to be able to tell my Poles from my Romanians, and both from my Balts.

    Some Lithuanian women are good looking, which I haven’t really noticed with Romanians. And I’ve met several outstandingly attractive and intelligent Hungarian girls.

    Kosovan women, headscarved and with five kids in tow, or selling the Big Issue in my local High Street, are not attractive, save obviously to Kosovan men.

    • Replies: @Rahan
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I've known one Kosovar woman quite attractive in a Hungarian sort of way, and a few Romanian ones attractive in a 1960s Italian cinema sort of way.

  51. @Frau Katze
    Off topic: NYT is disgusting. They word a paragraph in an article on WW2 Nazis at Wannsee, planning the final solution, in a very misleading way.


    The anniversary of that fateful meeting has a special resonance at a time when survivors of the Holocaust are dwindling and antisemitism and the ideology of white supremacy are resurgent in Europe and the United States along with attacks targeting Jewish people and ethnic minorities. Just last Saturday a man took a rabbi and three members of his congregation hostage in a synagogue in Texas.
     
    Someone reading this without knowing the story would assume that Texas synagogue attack was carried out by a white supremacist. In fact, attacks by whites on Jews are declining. Fanatical Muslims are a much bigger danger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/europe/lake-wannsee-conference-final-solution-holocaust.html

    Replies: @Anon, @Right_On, @Anon, @Gordo, @Moses, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @AndrewR

    It’s almost as though they hate us and want our people destroyed, which justifies in their minds any form of deceit.

    Speaking of danger, who’s more of a danger to gentile whites, fanatical Muslims or establishment Jews?

    Just kidding. We all know the answer.

  52. @Peter Akuleyev
    Interesting there is no Pole or German, even though there were still millions of both in the USSR in the 1960s. The Germans presumably didn't commit crime. The USSR preferred to ignore/suppress Polish identity in Lithuania, Belarus or Ukraine. The Belarussian fellow looks very Polish.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Evocatus

    A lot of the Poles and Germans were forcibly sent to places like Karaganda, Kazakhstan, where boxer Gennady Golovkin aka Triple G is from. In the case of the Germans, there were just under one million living in the Kazakh SSR where the Soviet Union collapsed; most have since returned to Germany.

  53. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin
     
    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn't Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I'm sure I've seen them here before.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @nebulafox, @xxxeliss, @Kent Benson, @Paperback Writer, @OFWHAP, @Muggles

    a significant percentage of Tatars have Russian or Ukranian ascentry, also most Tatars are only nominally Muslim

  54. Do Moldovans and Lithuanians have a reputation for being dim and cloddish? Also, the Latvian looks pretty suave.

    Keith William Richards and Tommy Kominik look like everybody’s mental image of a Jewish loanshark’s Russian heavies but based on their surnames they appear to be of Anglo and Czech ancestry, respectively.

    • Replies: @Rahan
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Do Moldovans and Lithuanians have a reputation for being dim and cloddish? Also, the Latvian looks pretty suave.
     
    Estonians are supposed to be the slow ones. Moldovans seen as agriculture-focused wine-loving hobbits. The Latvian looks like an ideal manly type from a Soviet poster.

    https://imgpile.com/images/wfpJ82.jpg

    The Russian type looks drunk and ill, the Belorussian one -- like a sober and healthy version of the Russian, and the Ukrainian looks like a Germanic peasant.
  55. iSteve:

    I suppose you are going to offer us a police sketch artist’s view of the difference between Croatians and Serbs? Between Irish Republicans and Unionists?

    Russia, and by extension Mr. Putin wanting to put himself in front of these sentiments, views itself as the patron of Orthodox Christians. Ukraine, like the former Yugoslavia, is divided between Catholic and Orthodox Christians, although Yugoslavia famously has Muslims. Russia has Muslims in and near its borders, but Muslims may not as much be a presence in Ukraine?

    That said, the ethnicity that sparks much division among the iSteve commentariat, let’s say, does not have much enthusiasm for Orthodox Christians. In stark contrast with their cousins in the Levant, members of said ethnicity will side with Muslims over Orthodox Christians, given a choice.

    Bishop Jorge Borgogio is big on scolding people for wanting to enforce borders, citing the Holy Family as the prime example of refugees from political violence. Don’t recall Joseph and Mary, however, staying in Egypt and inviting Zechariah and Elizabeth and other extended family to join them? Don’t recall Jesus joining a street gang on the streets of Alexandria, either.

    That said, could His Excellency the Bishop get together with his counterpart Bishop Bartholomew, you know, the leaders of the Western and Eastern Roman Empires as it were, and offer pastoral guidance to their flocks to cool it with the ethnic strife. And tell Mr. Putin to “stand down and stand by”? And could Bishop George tell his coreligionist Mr. Biden to put a sock in his saber-rattling rhetoric?

  56. The gypsy is played by Franco Nero, but only because Omar Sharif was unavailable.

  57. Can you please provide drawings that tell us White folks how to determine the differences between nips, chinks, slopes and various other Oriental ethnics. Maybe another sketch depicting the differences between beaners,spics, greasers, and other south of the border breeds.

    Here is a toughie. Tell the difference between a north Georgia hillbilly and a south Georgia redneck. I can tell for sure and not only is the south Jawjuh redneck better looking for the most part,and far more honest, they know how to cook. These north Georgia hillbillies are as shifty as the Jew, dishonest as the negro, and they can’t cook for shit.

    • LOL: Ed Case
    • Replies: @raga10
    @Trinity


    Can you please provide drawings that tell us White folks how to determine the differences between nips, chinks, slopes and various other Oriental ethnics.
     
    Heh, I know what you mean - they all looked the same to me too. But after some exposure I started to see there are differences. Exactly like artificial intelligence, you just have be trained by looking at many, many samples :)
    , @Inquiring Mind
    @Trinity

    That's easy.

    A man in front of his house cutting the grass with a power lawnmower -- Chinese.

    A woman cutting grass -- Korean.

    A landscaping crew cutting the grass - Japanese.

    , @SaneClownPosse
    @Trinity

    Really hard would be the differences between a J-pop boy group, a C-pop boy group, and a K-pop boy group.

  58. Thanks for the image, Steve. It will help identify the staff at the various car-wash places we visit 😉

    • Replies: @LP5
    @Graham

    Track suit and gold chain combinations next?

    , @muzungu
    @Graham

    Thanks for that reply.
    First solid belly laugh in about two years.

  59. I can’t say this is 100% legit, but it looks plausible:

    The sketch itself is very legit. I first came across that many years ago in a Russian history textbook, published pre-internet.

  60. How to tell the Russian mafia is really the kosher nostra?

  61. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin
     
    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn't Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I'm sure I've seen them here before.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @nebulafox, @xxxeliss, @Kent Benson, @Paperback Writer, @OFWHAP, @Muggles

    Lenin was half Russian, half chuvash.

    The chuvash don’t rate a place on the sketch.

  62. @Graham
    Thanks for the image, Steve. It will help identify the staff at the various car-wash places we visit ;-)

    Replies: @LP5, @muzungu

    Track suit and gold chain combinations next?

  63. I don’t know about the others, but the Armenian is a dead ringer for an old acquaintance of mine, who was indeed Armenian.

  64. These sketches are pretty worthless. Look at the sketch of a Turkman and then this photo (these guys are conscientious objectors in Turkmenistan):

    Once you take away their rather uniform skin tone and hair color, some of these guys look like subcons and some look more Chinesey and some look more Caucasian so any one sketch is not going to be able to allow you to identify someone as a Turkman nor are you going to be able to tell them from a Tajik or an Uzbek.

    • Replies: @George o' da Jungle
    @Jack D

    I think they look like Jehovah's Witnesses in Durango.

    , @Inquiring Mind
    @Jack D

    The sketches used by the Soviet Police are worthless?

    Um, that is the whole point why iSteve posts this, brother-man. These members of different Slavic-Asian ethnicities who are at each other's throats all look alike.

    On the other hand, the Catholic and Unionist Irish look pretty much the same, too?

    As to the sketches, however, I would take a good look at Kazakh, especially if I operated the T J Maxx store in Madison, WI.

    , @Ed Case
    @Jack D

    All anyone can say for sure is that GayFace is common among conscientious objectors in Turkmenistan.

  65. Guess the ethnicity

    • Replies: @OFWHAP
    @Paperback Writer

    White Nordid with a little bit of Alpinid admixture.

    , @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Paperback Writer

    My guess: a bielorussian jewish or lithuanian jewish mutt.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer

    Looked him up. His wife Elena Ilinykh reminds me a bit--eyes?--of Natalie Wood. Very cute girl. (Not as cute as the young Miss Wood, in her prime but real cute.)

    Replies: @profnasty, @Paperback Writer

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Paperback Writer

    One of the Baltic states, but one of better looking types from the area. Reminds me of a Lithuanian actor from The Last Kingdom who plays a Dane on the show.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  66. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin
     
    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn't Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I'm sure I've seen them here before.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @nebulafox, @xxxeliss, @Kent Benson, @Paperback Writer, @OFWHAP, @Muggles

    Lenin was part Kalmyk, which is not pictured.

    Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Really? Nureyev’s parents gladly forsook Islam for Communism. His grandfather had been a mullah. You will probably dismiss my example as anecdotal, but what evidence do you have for your statement?

    • Replies: @Evocatus
    @Paperback Writer


    Lenin was part Kalmyk, which is not pictured.
     
    He was also supposedly part Chuvash (a Turkic people) on his father's side and Jewish and Swedish on his mother's.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @Paperback Writer



    given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.
     
    Really? Nureyev’s parents gladly forsook Islam for Communism. His grandfather had been a mullah. You will probably dismiss my example as anecdotal, but what evidence do you have for your statement?
     
    Well, Antony Beevor's Stalingrad mentions that during the famous battle, the NKVD

    was soon shaken to discover the number of Russians [sic] now fighting for the Germans in the front line at Stalingrad, not just labouring as unarmed Hiwis. German accounts certainly seem to indicate that a considerable proportion of the Hiwis attached to Sixth Army divisions in the Kessel were now fighting in the front line. Many officers testified to their skill and loyalty. ‘Especially brave were the Tartars,’ reported an officer in the factory district of Stalingrad. ‘As anti-tank gunners using a captured Russian weapon, they were proud of every Soviet tank they hit. These fellows were fantastic’
     
    The same book also records Red Army Tartars simply defecting to the Germans.

    Since you mention the Nureyev, I can't help noting that Rudolf famously also defected from the Soviet Union.

    The Soviets themselves hardly considered Tartars to be reliable Bolsheviks.

    In 1928, the first wave of repression against the Crimean Tatar intelligentsia was launched, in particular, the head of the Crimean ASSR Veli Ibraimov was executed in a fabricated case. In 1938, the second wave of repression against the Crimean Tatar intelligentsia was started, during which many Crimean Tatar writers, scientists, poets, politicians, teachers were killed (Asan Sabri Ayvazov, Usein Bodaninsky, Seitdzhelil Hattatov, Ilyas Tarhan and many others).[62][63][64][65] In May 1944, the USSR State Defense Committee ordered the total deportation of all the Crimean Tatars from Crimea. The deportees were transported in cattle trains to Central Asia, primarily to Uzbekistan. During the deportation and in the first years of being in exile, 46% of Crimean Tatars died.[66] In 1956, Khrushchev exposed Stalin's cult of personality and allowed deported peoples to return to their homeland. The exception was the Crimean Tatars. Since then, a powerful national movement of the Crimean Tatars, supported abroad and by Soviet dissidents, began, and in 1989 the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union was made to condemn the deportation of Crimean Tatars from their motherland as inhumane and lawless. Crimean Tatars began to return to their homeland.
     
    If even pro-Communist Wikipedia lists these atrocities, then reality was probably worse. Tartars clearly had no shortage of grievances with the Commies.



    One is reminded of what a similarly indigestible meal the Tartars' sister Muslim Turkic population, the Kazakhs, were for the Communist state. Here is a near parodic account of an encounter between the Red Army and Kazakh villagers written by American author William Craig when he was keen to retain his Soviet access by keeping in the good graces of the Communist narrative:

    In the midst of this offensive, however, [Sgt. Alexei] Petrov met a new foe. Approaching the outskirts of a steppe village, the inhabitants—men and women—ran out and attacked his unit with pitchforks and hammers. The Red Army troops withdrew from the onslaught and stumbled back with the news that their assailants were native Kazakhs, a minority violently opposed to Communist rule from Moscow.

    The Kazakhs screamed insults and shouted: “We don’t want any Russians here!” while bewildered Soviet soldiers milled about on the plain. Someone phoned division headquarters for advice. Within minutes a terse order came back: “Destroy them all.”

    In the general bombardment that followed, Petrov fired high-explosive shells into the village, which blew into thousands of pieces of mud, clay, and timber. Machine guns picked off anyone who tried to escape, and the Kazakhs were killed to the last child.

    Gazing at the crackling flames, Petrov suddenly wondered why these people had such hatred for the state. What was it about Communism that made them turn on their brothers?
     
    Red Army Sergeant, having just massacred every man, woman and child in a Kazakh village wonders what "was it about Communism that made them turn on their brothers?"

    Yeah, it's a f-cking mystery, bro'.

    Here's a clue, Petrov: whatever their critique of Das Kapital, getting offhandedly genocided probably didn't help.
  67. Other than the leading-man gypsy, they all look like sinister character actors, except for maybe the Kyrgyz, who looks like the hapless victim.

  68. The Jew looks like a 25 year old Jackie Mason, who by the way is one of 2021’s deaths. RIP. This is the youngest pic I could find of him:

    • Replies: @Acilius
    @Paperback Writer

    Not as much as he looks like Flattop from Dick Tracy!

    , @Ian Smith
    @Paperback Writer

    His nose has an overly-sculpted tip. Nose job, I’m betting.

  69. @Wilkey
    The mustache on the Georgian looks accurate, but he should probably be drawn with a mullet.

    Also, it's extremely triggering that all of the sketches for the suspects are men. I'm extremely micro-offended - and maybe even a little - a very little - macro-offended.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Bill Jones

    Also, it’s extremely triggering that all of the sketches for the suspects are men.

    I find it disturbing that you assume that members of the Trans community are not doing their share of the heavy lifting.

    (Shops are pretty heavy, no?)

  70. @Jack D
    These sketches are pretty worthless. Look at the sketch of a Turkman and then this photo (these guys are conscientious objectors in Turkmenistan):

    https://eurasianet.org/sites/default/files/styles/article/public/2020-01/JW.jpg?itok=NyzSEGdi

    Once you take away their rather uniform skin tone and hair color, some of these guys look like subcons and some look more Chinesey and some look more Caucasian so any one sketch is not going to be able to allow you to identify someone as a Turkman nor are you going to be able to tell them from a Tajik or an Uzbek.

    Replies: @George o' da Jungle, @Inquiring Mind, @Ed Case

    I think they look like Jehovah’s Witnesses in Durango.

  71. @Graham
    Thanks for the image, Steve. It will help identify the staff at the various car-wash places we visit ;-)

    Replies: @LP5, @muzungu

    Thanks for that reply.
    First solid belly laugh in about two years.

  72. The day NATO seized Kosovo from Serbia they lost all rights to complain about Russia liberating their co-ethnics in Eastern and Central Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Gordo

    There is minimal public sentiment in the Ukraine in favor of re-incorporation in Russia and this is so in every part of the country. Those favoring a Russophile foreign policy might be a plurality in the Donetsk and Lukhansk Oblasts but outnumbered 5-1 in every other part of the country. No one would be 'liberated' except the addled heads of Russian revanchists.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

  73. Keep them all the hell outta here.

  74. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin
     
    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn't Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I'm sure I've seen them here before.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @nebulafox, @xxxeliss, @Kent Benson, @Paperback Writer, @OFWHAP, @Muggles

    The young Russian lady who won gold in figure skating during the 2018 Winter Olympics is a Tatar I believe.

  75. @Paperback Writer
    Guess the ethnicity

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Sergei_Polunin_Allan_Warren.jpg

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Thelma Ringbaum, @AnotherDad, @S. Anonyia

    White Nordid with a little bit of Alpinid admixture.

  76. Everybody is drawn to look like a character actor, except the Gypsy who is portrayed as a leading man.

    Specifically James Franco.

  77. Are the men born looking that way too, or do they have to be certain age before they all the men of certain region look the same? Thank goodness we give people names. But maybe they should tattoo a number at birth so they can look it up when they can’t tell each other apart. What do the women look like or are those the women too? Maybe it doesn’t matter. Those people would never fail one of those face recognition hoax/joke things, ya know the ones they keep trying to get you to go back and do it again for a better score.

  78. The Gypsy is looking right into the ‘camera’ showing the light in his eyes. Only a very confident leading man would do that.

    The Ukrainian looks like a criminal.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Sean

    They're all supposed to be criminals.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  79. @nebulafox
    @Peter Akuleyev

    They didn't really exist in the same way they did before the World Wars in the Tsarist era. What was left of the ethnic German community by 1945 knew well to suppress their heritage. Like the Jews, by the 1970s, ethnic Germans were discriminated against for higher education, etc: Andre Geim being one example of having the wrong sounding name.

    The effect of this is present in the ethnic Germans who resettled in Germany after 1990. Russo-Germans who have settled in the exurbs of Eastern Berlin are often monolingual in Russian. A limited parallel can be seen in Daerim with the Korean Chinese who made it to the ROK and their assimilation issues (the government has to inform them that this isn't China and the law matters here, etc) but they can't get away with speaking no Korean at all. In Marzahn, you can get away with little to no German, and the mentality is still very... Russian, for lack of a better word.

    As for the Poles living in places annexed by the USSR, they were all thrown out into Poland after the war. Sometimes whole communities were chosen to replace the Germans being kicked out of Silesia, Pomerania, and East/West Prussia. For example, Breslau was largely repopulated by Poles themselves recently expelled from Lwow.

    Replies: @siberiancat

    by the 1970s, ethnic Germans were discriminated against for higher education, etc: Andre Geim being one example of having the wrong sounding name.

    Andre Geim would be a very bad example for your point. After all, he’s gotten into a very selective MIPT.
    There were quotes for Jews. I have not heard of quotes for Germans. Even with the Jews, my academic group at MIPT had two Jewish guys out of a dozen.

  80. @Paperback Writer
    Guess the ethnicity

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Sergei_Polunin_Allan_Warren.jpg

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Thelma Ringbaum, @AnotherDad, @S. Anonyia

    My guess: a bielorussian jewish or lithuanian jewish mutt.

  81. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

    Sure enough, Lenin was a Swedo-Kalmyk metis. Thats why he looks like a Tartar.

  82. @Paperback Writer
    @Almost Missouri

    Lenin was part Kalmyk, which is not pictured.


    Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

     

    Really? Nureyev's parents gladly forsook Islam for Communism. His grandfather had been a mullah. You will probably dismiss my example as anecdotal, but what evidence do you have for your statement?

    Replies: @Evocatus, @Almost Missouri

    Lenin was part Kalmyk, which is not pictured.

    He was also supposedly part Chuvash (a Turkic people) on his father’s side and Jewish and Swedish on his mother’s.

  83. @Paperback Writer
    The Jew looks like a 25 year old Jackie Mason, who by the way is one of 2021's deaths. RIP. This is the youngest pic I could find of him:

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Rwc13wD5-OU/XGTaCAGmP3I/AAAAAAAAc-w/a1-lKG5IIUsaREgJ2U8AmoMeCnLj3kInACLcBGAs/s1600/Jackie%2BMason%2Bin%2B1967.jpg

    Replies: @Acilius, @Ian Smith

    Not as much as he looks like Flattop from Dick Tracy!

  84. @Paperback Writer
    Guess the ethnicity

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Sergei_Polunin_Allan_Warren.jpg

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Thelma Ringbaum, @AnotherDad, @S. Anonyia

    Looked him up. His wife Elena Ilinykh reminds me a bit–eyes?–of Natalie Wood. Very cute girl. (Not as cute as the young Miss Wood, in her prime but real cute.)

    • Replies: @profnasty
    @AnotherDad

    Fun fact.
    Did you know Natalie Wood at 17 was raped by Kirk Douglas, 39?
    Now you know the rest of the story.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @AnotherDad

    You cheated!

    Polunin sounds like a fun guy.

    https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2019/jan/15/sergei-polunin-dropped-paris-opera-ballet-swan-lake-homophobic-rant

    "Females now trying take on the man role because you don’t fuck them and because you are an embarrassment.”

    Our football players should have half the manhood this ballet boy has.

  85. @Jack D
    These sketches are pretty worthless. Look at the sketch of a Turkman and then this photo (these guys are conscientious objectors in Turkmenistan):

    https://eurasianet.org/sites/default/files/styles/article/public/2020-01/JW.jpg?itok=NyzSEGdi

    Once you take away their rather uniform skin tone and hair color, some of these guys look like subcons and some look more Chinesey and some look more Caucasian so any one sketch is not going to be able to allow you to identify someone as a Turkman nor are you going to be able to tell them from a Tajik or an Uzbek.

    Replies: @George o' da Jungle, @Inquiring Mind, @Ed Case

    The sketches used by the Soviet Police are worthless?

    Um, that is the whole point why iSteve posts this, brother-man. These members of different Slavic-Asian ethnicities who are at each other’s throats all look alike.

    On the other hand, the Catholic and Unionist Irish look pretty much the same, too?

    As to the sketches, however, I would take a good look at Kazakh, especially if I operated the T J Maxx store in Madison, WI.

  86. @Sean
    The Gypsy is looking right into the 'camera' showing the light in his eyes. Only a very confident leading man would do that.

    The Ukrainian looks like a criminal.

    Replies: @International Jew

    They’re all supposed to be criminals.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @International Jew


    They’re all supposed to be criminals.
     
    They all are criminals. Or composites of criminals actually. The sketches represent the average face of actual criminals known by the Soviet police to be of those nationalities.

    Replies: @International Jew

  87. @Frau Katze
    Off topic: NYT is disgusting. They word a paragraph in an article on WW2 Nazis at Wannsee, planning the final solution, in a very misleading way.


    The anniversary of that fateful meeting has a special resonance at a time when survivors of the Holocaust are dwindling and antisemitism and the ideology of white supremacy are resurgent in Europe and the United States along with attacks targeting Jewish people and ethnic minorities. Just last Saturday a man took a rabbi and three members of his congregation hostage in a synagogue in Texas.
     
    Someone reading this without knowing the story would assume that Texas synagogue attack was carried out by a white supremacist. In fact, attacks by whites on Jews are declining. Fanatical Muslims are a much bigger danger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/europe/lake-wannsee-conference-final-solution-holocaust.html

    Replies: @Anon, @Right_On, @Anon, @Gordo, @Moses, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @AndrewR

    “Fanatical Muslims” who attack Jews are infinitely whiter than you, Chaim.

    • Troll: Paperback Writer
  88. “Everybody is drawn to look like a character actor, except the Gypsy who is portrayed as a leading man.”

    The cast of the Russian production of 2 Times 12 Angry Men.

  89. @Reg Cæsar
    So the Tatar is Lenin, and the Tajik Van Gogh?

    The Uzbek looks to be asking, "Ocean? What is ocean? I know of no 'ocean'."

    Replies: @Cortes, @OFWHAP, @jamie b., @Almost Missouri, @Verymuchalive, @al gore rhythms, @Daniel H, @Thelma Ringbaum, @James J O'Meara

  90. When l complained about Confederate statue toppling to my progressive American friend he stated that the South had lots of statues, so what’s the problem?
    Same thing with the Messiah. The vast majority of the world’s population have been excluded from enjoying this masterpiece by the colonial, racist nature of Handel, Britain and Europe. Surely it’s time for these marginalized masses to have an opportunity to reimagine the Messiah and, where appropriate, rework the music and lyrics to be more inclusive.
    Just as with the statues in Southern States, there are lots and lots of notes that Handel wrote and most of them will be left untouched.

  91. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar


    So the Tatar is Lenin
     
    I noticed that too. Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Nowadays though, the Russians and Tartars seem to clasp hands in friendship. I was at a Russian cultural event not long ago which included an outsize number of Tartars, whom the Russkies were at pains to extol. It had a whiff of how US white liberals are always going on about how great their favorite blacks are. Well, except that in this case, a lot of the Tartars really were talented and beautiful.

    P.S. Didn't Anatoly post these police sketches a few years ago? I'm sure I've seen them here before.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @nebulafox, @xxxeliss, @Kent Benson, @Paperback Writer, @OFWHAP, @Muggles

    According to Robert Service’s bio of Lenin (Lenin) Lenin himself though only of slightly “Tartar” (or Mongol) ancestry, or some other Asiatic heritage, was teased and gossiped about in Russia when growing up as not being really “Russian” due to this.

    He had that slight central Asian aspect that Russians associate with rural primitive upbringing.

    Some of his political foes also cited this as a reason to dislike him/his politics.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Muggles

    Who is Robert Service? I mean which MI-service#. Everyone knows Lenin had very little russian blood, if any . A Swede-Kalmyk with admixtures of Jewish here and there. His father looked almost oriental.

    Replies: @Muggles

  92. @PiltdownMan
    A Google search for "How to Tell Russians from Ukrainians" brings what appears to be dozens of web pages and sites devoted to explaining the differences between Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.

    Replies: @Anon, @YetAnotherAnon, @raga10, @Lurker

    Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.

    Georgian women beat them both! But if I had to pick between these two only, I’d definitely look at Ukrainians first. Appearance-vise Russians often have this sort of facial features I describe as “carved out of a potato” – Anna Kournikova was a perfect example of what I mean… Ukrainian women look more European.

    • Replies: @annonymous
    @raga10

    rag10 thinks Anna Kournikova wasn't/isn't attractive.....

    Can I ask you sir if you tilt more to the rear end of men than the female sex?

    Anna Kournikova is one of THE most beautiful women athletes of the last 100 years.

    She married Enrique I and their children are....

    Amazing!

    Replies: @raga10

    , @NC
    @raga10


    Appearance-vise Russians often have this sort of facial features I describe as “carved out of a potato” – Anna Kournikova was a perfect example of what I mean…
     
    Agreed, it didn't keep her from being the pinup girl for my generation though. I remember saying to people in 1999 that Kournikova had the same facial features as Nikita Khrushchev, but no one else seemed to care.

    https://ibb.co/mT31gLp
  93. Armenian and Azerbaijani looks like the same guy only letting his hair grow out. Uzbeks were derided as lazy and thieving in the CCCP1 Russian Television sketches on SCTV back in the 80s. The Kazakh pic looks like Mao’s cousin. I think the typical suspect sketch is purposely generic to allow for maximum ability to question anyone. The looks on these drawings are at least trying to achieve a modest amount of credibility. The Gypsy looks like all the Greek or Roman characters in old historic films. I wish we could have realistic portrayals in sketches here in Missouri.

    • Replies: @Milo Minderbinder
    @Flel

    https://youtu.be/I4nk5mSz_2s

  94. @Paperback Writer
    The Jew looks like a 25 year old Jackie Mason, who by the way is one of 2021's deaths. RIP. This is the youngest pic I could find of him:

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Rwc13wD5-OU/XGTaCAGmP3I/AAAAAAAAc-w/a1-lKG5IIUsaREgJ2U8AmoMeCnLj3kInACLcBGAs/s1600/Jackie%2BMason%2Bin%2B1967.jpg

    Replies: @Acilius, @Ian Smith

    His nose has an overly-sculpted tip. Nose job, I’m betting.

  95. @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer

    Looked him up. His wife Elena Ilinykh reminds me a bit--eyes?--of Natalie Wood. Very cute girl. (Not as cute as the young Miss Wood, in her prime but real cute.)

    Replies: @profnasty, @Paperback Writer

    Fun fact.
    Did you know Natalie Wood at 17 was raped by Kirk Douglas, 39?
    Now you know the rest of the story.

  96. @International Jew
    @Sean

    They're all supposed to be criminals.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    They’re all supposed to be criminals.

    They all are criminals. Or composites of criminals actually. The sketches represent the average face of actual criminals known by the Soviet police to be of those nationalities.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The Jewish guy looks like a white-collar criminal at most.

  97. @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer

    Looked him up. His wife Elena Ilinykh reminds me a bit--eyes?--of Natalie Wood. Very cute girl. (Not as cute as the young Miss Wood, in her prime but real cute.)

    Replies: @profnasty, @Paperback Writer

    You cheated!

    Polunin sounds like a fun guy.

    https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2019/jan/15/sergei-polunin-dropped-paris-opera-ballet-swan-lake-homophobic-rant

    “Females now trying take on the man role because you don’t fuck them and because you are an embarrassment.”

    Our football players should have half the manhood this ballet boy has.

  98. @Trinity
    Can you please provide drawings that tell us White folks how to determine the differences between nips, chinks, slopes and various other Oriental ethnics. Maybe another sketch depicting the differences between beaners,spics, greasers, and other south of the border breeds.

    Here is a toughie. Tell the difference between a north Georgia hillbilly and a south Georgia redneck. I can tell for sure and not only is the south Jawjuh redneck better looking for the most part,and far more honest, they know how to cook. These north Georgia hillbillies are as shifty as the Jew, dishonest as the negro, and they can't cook for shit.

    Replies: @raga10, @Inquiring Mind, @SaneClownPosse

    Can you please provide drawings that tell us White folks how to determine the differences between nips, chinks, slopes and various other Oriental ethnics.

    Heh, I know what you mean – they all looked the same to me too. But after some exposure I started to see there are differences. Exactly like artificial intelligence, you just have be trained by looking at many, many samples 🙂

  99. Looks like a collection of every landlord I ever had.

  100. @Paperback Writer
    @Almost Missouri

    Lenin was part Kalmyk, which is not pictured.


    Kinda ironic given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

     

    Really? Nureyev's parents gladly forsook Islam for Communism. His grandfather had been a mullah. You will probably dismiss my example as anecdotal, but what evidence do you have for your statement?

    Replies: @Evocatus, @Almost Missouri

    given how the Tartars were not particularly on board with the Communism thing.

    Really? Nureyev’s parents gladly forsook Islam for Communism. His grandfather had been a mullah. You will probably dismiss my example as anecdotal, but what evidence do you have for your statement?

    Well, Antony Beevor’s Stalingrad mentions that during the famous battle, the NKVD

    was soon shaken to discover the number of Russians [sic] now fighting for the Germans in the front line at Stalingrad, not just labouring as unarmed Hiwis. German accounts certainly seem to indicate that a considerable proportion of the Hiwis attached to Sixth Army divisions in the Kessel were now fighting in the front line. Many officers testified to their skill and loyalty. ‘Especially brave were the Tartars,’ reported an officer in the factory district of Stalingrad. ‘As anti-tank gunners using a captured Russian weapon, they were proud of every Soviet tank they hit. These fellows were fantastic’

    The same book also records Red Army Tartars simply defecting to the Germans.

    Since you mention the Nureyev, I can’t help noting that Rudolf famously also defected from the Soviet Union.

    The Soviets themselves hardly considered Tartars to be reliable Bolsheviks.

    In 1928, the first wave of repression against the Crimean Tatar intelligentsia was launched, in particular, the head of the Crimean ASSR Veli Ibraimov was executed in a fabricated case. In 1938, the second wave of repression against the Crimean Tatar intelligentsia was started, during which many Crimean Tatar writers, scientists, poets, politicians, teachers were killed (Asan Sabri Ayvazov, Usein Bodaninsky, Seitdzhelil Hattatov, Ilyas Tarhan and many others).[62][63][64][65] In May 1944, the USSR State Defense Committee ordered the total deportation of all the Crimean Tatars from Crimea. The deportees were transported in cattle trains to Central Asia, primarily to Uzbekistan. During the deportation and in the first years of being in exile, 46% of Crimean Tatars died.[66] In 1956, Khrushchev exposed Stalin’s cult of personality and allowed deported peoples to return to their homeland. The exception was the Crimean Tatars. Since then, a powerful national movement of the Crimean Tatars, supported abroad and by Soviet dissidents, began, and in 1989 the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union was made to condemn the deportation of Crimean Tatars from their motherland as inhumane and lawless. Crimean Tatars began to return to their homeland.

    If even pro-Communist Wikipedia lists these atrocities, then reality was probably worse. Tartars clearly had no shortage of grievances with the Commies.

    [MORE]

    One is reminded of what a similarly indigestible meal the Tartars’ sister Muslim Turkic population, the Kazakhs, were for the Communist state. Here is a near parodic account of an encounter between the Red Army and Kazakh villagers written by American author William Craig when he was keen to retain his Soviet access by keeping in the good graces of the Communist narrative:

    In the midst of this offensive, however, [Sgt. Alexei] Petrov met a new foe. Approaching the outskirts of a steppe village, the inhabitants—men and women—ran out and attacked his unit with pitchforks and hammers. The Red Army troops withdrew from the onslaught and stumbled back with the news that their assailants were native Kazakhs, a minority violently opposed to Communist rule from Moscow.

    The Kazakhs screamed insults and shouted: “We don’t want any Russians here!” while bewildered Soviet soldiers milled about on the plain. Someone phoned division headquarters for advice. Within minutes a terse order came back: “Destroy them all.”

    In the general bombardment that followed, Petrov fired high-explosive shells into the village, which blew into thousands of pieces of mud, clay, and timber. Machine guns picked off anyone who tried to escape, and the Kazakhs were killed to the last child.

    Gazing at the crackling flames, Petrov suddenly wondered why these people had such hatred for the state. What was it about Communism that made them turn on their brothers?

    Red Army Sergeant, having just massacred every man, woman and child in a Kazakh village wonders what “was it about Communism that made them turn on their brothers?”

    Yeah, it’s a f-cking mystery, bro’.

    Here’s a clue, Petrov: whatever their critique of Das Kapital, getting offhandedly genocided probably didn’t help.

  101. @Ralph L
    The Gypsy is the only one whose neck is twisted and collar unbuttoned.
    I guess Siberia doesn't have a type--they take whoever they can get.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    he Gypsy is the only one whose neck is twisted and collar unbuttoned

    There’s probably an art-world name for that classic head-slightly-twisted heroic pose, which seems to me to have started in the late Hellenic period with depictions of Alexander the Great.

  102. @al gore rhythms
    @Reg Cæsar

    I thought the Tatar was Bryan Cranston's character in Breaking Bad.

    Every unz commentator should be assigned one of these pictures next to their names, so we have some idea who we are dealing with.

    I'm calling first dibs on Latvia.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    I’m calling first dibs on Latvia.

    Call me Uzbek.

  103. @Jack D
    These sketches are pretty worthless. Look at the sketch of a Turkman and then this photo (these guys are conscientious objectors in Turkmenistan):

    https://eurasianet.org/sites/default/files/styles/article/public/2020-01/JW.jpg?itok=NyzSEGdi

    Once you take away their rather uniform skin tone and hair color, some of these guys look like subcons and some look more Chinesey and some look more Caucasian so any one sketch is not going to be able to allow you to identify someone as a Turkman nor are you going to be able to tell them from a Tajik or an Uzbek.

    Replies: @George o' da Jungle, @Inquiring Mind, @Ed Case

    All anyone can say for sure is that GayFace is common among conscientious objectors in Turkmenistan.

    • Agree: TWS
  104. There are the fifteen republics, of course, but the Soviet Union had hundreds of ethnic groups. Why just Jews, Tatars, and Gypsies? Perhaps the other groups all tended to stick to their areas, and weren’t found in European Russia as much?

    (I think Kalymks are Buddhist Mongols, by the way. Sort of Turkic, but distant.)

  105. @Flel
    Armenian and Azerbaijani looks like the same guy only letting his hair grow out. Uzbeks were derided as lazy and thieving in the CCCP1 Russian Television sketches on SCTV back in the 80s. The Kazakh pic looks like Mao’s cousin. I think the typical suspect sketch is purposely generic to allow for maximum ability to question anyone. The looks on these drawings are at least trying to achieve a modest amount of credibility. The Gypsy looks like all the Greek or Roman characters in old historic films. I wish we could have realistic portrayals in sketches here in Missouri.

    Replies: @Milo Minderbinder

  106. @Paperback Writer
    Guess the ethnicity

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Sergei_Polunin_Allan_Warren.jpg

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Thelma Ringbaum, @AnotherDad, @S. Anonyia

    One of the Baltic states, but one of better looking types from the area. Reminds me of a Lithuanian actor from The Last Kingdom who plays a Dane on the show.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @S. Anonyia

    Russian dancer who was born in Ukraine.

  107. @Trinity
    Can you please provide drawings that tell us White folks how to determine the differences between nips, chinks, slopes and various other Oriental ethnics. Maybe another sketch depicting the differences between beaners,spics, greasers, and other south of the border breeds.

    Here is a toughie. Tell the difference between a north Georgia hillbilly and a south Georgia redneck. I can tell for sure and not only is the south Jawjuh redneck better looking for the most part,and far more honest, they know how to cook. These north Georgia hillbillies are as shifty as the Jew, dishonest as the negro, and they can't cook for shit.

    Replies: @raga10, @Inquiring Mind, @SaneClownPosse

    That’s easy.

    A man in front of his house cutting the grass with a power lawnmower — Chinese.

    A woman cutting grass — Korean.

    A landscaping crew cutting the grass – Japanese.

    • LOL: Trinity
  108. How to tell Russians from Ukrainians?

    Isn’t that what blood alcohol testing is for?

  109. @James N. Kennett
    OT: According to a news story in Science magazine:

    U.S. science no longer leads the world. Here’s how top advisers say the nation should respond

     

    The accompanying photo suggests that they will not be solving the problem any time soon.

    https://www.science.org/do/10.1126/science.ada0431/full/_20220120_on_nsfindicators.jpg

    Replies: @Wade Hampton, @Moses

    Imagine my surprise.

  110. @S. Anonyia
    @Paperback Writer

    One of the Baltic states, but one of better looking types from the area. Reminds me of a Lithuanian actor from The Last Kingdom who plays a Dane on the show.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Russian dancer who was born in Ukraine.

  111. The Latvian also has leading-man possibilities.

  112. For some reason Polish musicians have been known for their
    unearthly beauty.

    The latest example is Jakub Józef Orliński, 31, operatic countertenor,
    often mentioned as one of the Top 10 male opera singers. Last year
    he won an International Opera Award, basically Opera Oscar, for
    “Facce d’Amore.” He has a four-octave vocal range, and seems to
    prefer Baroque composers such as Purcell, Vivaldi or Handel. He’s
    very much in demand. Last spring he performed at a magnificent
    concert hall in St. Petersburg, Russia. The Russian audience was
    so enthusiastic they wouldn’t let him off the stage. Last fall he sang at
    the Met in New York, and currently he is at the Royal Opera House
    in London. Since he also looks like Michelangelo’s David, it’s not
    surprising that he has a worldwide cult following, and sometimes
    gets millions of views on YouTube. It doesn’t hurt that he has
    a great sense of humor, and warms up before performances
    by practicing breakdancing.

    One of the earlier examples was Ignacy Jan Paderewski, a great
    pianist who became a celebrity already in the 1890s, toured
    the United States a number of times (By the way, he thought
    Chicago was more magnificent than New York), was friends
    with American presidents, and did much to restore Polish
    independence after WW I. He was descended from Polish
    nobility, and was regarded as a magnificent example of
    male beauty so much so that during a visit in London he
    was stalked by one of the Pre-Raphaelite painters who
    told his friends that Paderewski was the most beautiful man
    he has ever seen. Indeed, there is a portrait of Paderewski
    by the Dutch painter Lawrence Alma-Tadema (1890) that
    gives us a hint of what Ignacy Paderewski looked like.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Anon 2

    Two more examples, this time they are truly surreal.
    Two famous writers were so smitten by the beauty and grace
    of Polish children that they immortalized them in their works.

    Great German (bisexual) writer Thomas Mann’s novella
    “Death in Venice” (1912) recounts the story of a writer who
    visits Venice, and is first uplifted and then obsessed by the
    sight of a beautiful Polish boy, Tadzio. It turned out that the story
    was based on a real boy Mann observed when in 1911 he stayed at
    the former Grand Hôtel des Bains in Venice. The boy was
    descended from Polish nobility, and was vacationing in Venice
    with his mother, sisters, and servants. Decades later the boy, now
    a grown man, was tracked down and identified in Poland. He
    survived WW II, and died in Warsaw in 1986.

    The next case is perhaps the most bizarre love story I’m
    aware of. It concerns the English poet Ernest Dowson,
    who is best remembered for a few phrases from his poems
    such as “Gone with the wind” and “Days of wine and roses.”
    Who inspired most of his poetry? Hard to believe but in 1889
    Dowson became infatuated with an 11-year-old Polish girl Missie,
    daughter of a Polish immigrant who owned a restaurant in central
    London. He would visit the restaurant, where Missie was one of
    the waitresses, practically every day. He even converted to
    Catholicism for her. Finally, in 1893 he got up the courage to
    propose to her - she was then 15 and he was 25. Unfortunately,
    she rejected him. He then left London, but in 1897 he
    returned to London to live with Missie’s family. By then, however,
    he was so distraught by the rejection that his health began to
    decline rapidly, and he died in 1900 at the age of 32.

    , @J.Ross
    @Anon 2

    Look what good it did. The reason some Turkish people are so good looking is Slavs were both good looking and unable to fight off kidnappers. Maybe it would create more historical happiness for a people to be horrifyingly ugly, so long as they were still able to make their way in the world. Except that everyone aways wants beauty as the visual aspect of goodness, so eventually the uglies would find and mix with the beautiful.

    , @annonymous
    @Anon 2

    Anon 2

    You seem like you really know your classical music art? Would you like to be a guest on a popular Populist Conservative radio show that's run out of Tennessee?

    U can contact us through:

    The Political Cesspool Radio show
    Hosted by James Edwards every Saturday Night 6-9 pm Central Time.

  113. @Muggles
    @Almost Missouri

    According to Robert Service's bio of Lenin (Lenin) Lenin himself though only of slightly "Tartar" (or Mongol) ancestry, or some other Asiatic heritage, was teased and gossiped about in Russia when growing up as not being really "Russian" due to this.

    He had that slight central Asian aspect that Russians associate with rural primitive upbringing.

    Some of his political foes also cited this as a reason to dislike him/his politics.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

    Who is Robert Service? I mean which MI-service#. Everyone knows Lenin had very little russian blood, if any . A Swede-Kalmyk with admixtures of Jewish here and there. His father looked almost oriental.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Thelma Ringbaum

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Service_(historian)

    His Wikipedia entry.

    A very well respected British historian.

    You might try reading a thick book now and again to gain knowledge.

  114. @Trinity
    Can you please provide drawings that tell us White folks how to determine the differences between nips, chinks, slopes and various other Oriental ethnics. Maybe another sketch depicting the differences between beaners,spics, greasers, and other south of the border breeds.

    Here is a toughie. Tell the difference between a north Georgia hillbilly and a south Georgia redneck. I can tell for sure and not only is the south Jawjuh redneck better looking for the most part,and far more honest, they know how to cook. These north Georgia hillbillies are as shifty as the Jew, dishonest as the negro, and they can't cook for shit.

    Replies: @raga10, @Inquiring Mind, @SaneClownPosse

    Really hard would be the differences between a J-pop boy group, a C-pop boy group, and a K-pop boy group.

  115. The tatar looks like Yul Brynner, who was a very famous leading man.

  116. @Anon 2
    For some reason Polish musicians have been known for their
    unearthly beauty.

    The latest example is Jakub Józef Orliński, 31, operatic countertenor,
    often mentioned as one of the Top 10 male opera singers. Last year
    he won an International Opera Award, basically Opera Oscar, for
    “Facce d’Amore.” He has a four-octave vocal range, and seems to
    prefer Baroque composers such as Purcell, Vivaldi or Handel. He’s
    very much in demand. Last spring he performed at a magnificent
    concert hall in St. Petersburg, Russia. The Russian audience was
    so enthusiastic they wouldn’t let him off the stage. Last fall he sang at
    the Met in New York, and currently he is at the Royal Opera House
    in London. Since he also looks like Michelangelo’s David, it’s not
    surprising that he has a worldwide cult following, and sometimes
    gets millions of views on YouTube. It doesn’t hurt that he has
    a great sense of humor, and warms up before performances
    by practicing breakdancing.

    One of the earlier examples was Ignacy Jan Paderewski, a great
    pianist who became a celebrity already in the 1890s, toured
    the United States a number of times (By the way, he thought
    Chicago was more magnificent than New York), was friends
    with American presidents, and did much to restore Polish
    independence after WW I. He was descended from Polish
    nobility, and was regarded as a magnificent example of
    male beauty so much so that during a visit in London he
    was stalked by one of the Pre-Raphaelite painters who
    told his friends that Paderewski was the most beautiful man
    he has ever seen. Indeed, there is a portrait of Paderewski
    by the Dutch painter Lawrence Alma-Tadema (1890) that
    gives us a hint of what Ignacy Paderewski looked like.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @J.Ross, @annonymous

    Two more examples, this time they are truly surreal.
    Two famous writers were so smitten by the beauty and grace
    of Polish children that they immortalized them in their works.

    Great German (bisexual) writer Thomas Mann’s novella
    “Death in Venice” (1912) recounts the story of a writer who
    visits Venice, and is first uplifted and then obsessed by the
    sight of a beautiful Polish boy, Tadzio. It turned out that the story
    was based on a real boy Mann observed when in 1911 he stayed at
    the former Grand Hôtel des Bains in Venice. The boy was
    descended from Polish nobility, and was vacationing in Venice
    with his mother, sisters, and servants. Decades later the boy, now
    a grown man, was tracked down and identified in Poland. He
    survived WW II, and died in Warsaw in 1986.

    The next case is perhaps the most bizarre love story I’m
    aware of. It concerns the English poet Ernest Dowson,
    who is best remembered for a few phrases from his poems
    such as “Gone with the wind” and “Days of wine and roses.”
    Who inspired most of his poetry? Hard to believe but in 1889
    Dowson became infatuated with an 11-year-old Polish girl Missie,
    daughter of a Polish immigrant who owned a restaurant in central
    London. He would visit the restaurant, where Missie was one of
    the waitresses, practically every day. He even converted to
    Catholicism for her. Finally, in 1893 he got up the courage to
    propose to her – she was then 15 and he was 25. Unfortunately,
    she rejected him. He then left London, but in 1897 he
    returned to London to live with Missie’s family. By then, however,
    he was so distraught by the rejection that his health began to
    decline rapidly, and he died in 1900 at the age of 32.

  117. @James N. Kennett
    OT: According to a news story in Science magazine:

    U.S. science no longer leads the world. Here’s how top advisers say the nation should respond

     

    The accompanying photo suggests that they will not be solving the problem any time soon.

    https://www.science.org/do/10.1126/science.ada0431/full/_20220120_on_nsfindicators.jpg

    Replies: @Wade Hampton, @Moses

    I’ve got school age kids. Every glossy or website about science features only blacks, browns and girls. It’s like White boys just disappeared from Science.

  118. Russians have better taste in tracksuits.

  119. @Anon 2
    For some reason Polish musicians have been known for their
    unearthly beauty.

    The latest example is Jakub Józef Orliński, 31, operatic countertenor,
    often mentioned as one of the Top 10 male opera singers. Last year
    he won an International Opera Award, basically Opera Oscar, for
    “Facce d’Amore.” He has a four-octave vocal range, and seems to
    prefer Baroque composers such as Purcell, Vivaldi or Handel. He’s
    very much in demand. Last spring he performed at a magnificent
    concert hall in St. Petersburg, Russia. The Russian audience was
    so enthusiastic they wouldn’t let him off the stage. Last fall he sang at
    the Met in New York, and currently he is at the Royal Opera House
    in London. Since he also looks like Michelangelo’s David, it’s not
    surprising that he has a worldwide cult following, and sometimes
    gets millions of views on YouTube. It doesn’t hurt that he has
    a great sense of humor, and warms up before performances
    by practicing breakdancing.

    One of the earlier examples was Ignacy Jan Paderewski, a great
    pianist who became a celebrity already in the 1890s, toured
    the United States a number of times (By the way, he thought
    Chicago was more magnificent than New York), was friends
    with American presidents, and did much to restore Polish
    independence after WW I. He was descended from Polish
    nobility, and was regarded as a magnificent example of
    male beauty so much so that during a visit in London he
    was stalked by one of the Pre-Raphaelite painters who
    told his friends that Paderewski was the most beautiful man
    he has ever seen. Indeed, there is a portrait of Paderewski
    by the Dutch painter Lawrence Alma-Tadema (1890) that
    gives us a hint of what Ignacy Paderewski looked like.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @J.Ross, @annonymous

    Look what good it did. The reason some Turkish people are so good looking is Slavs were both good looking and unable to fight off kidnappers. Maybe it would create more historical happiness for a people to be horrifyingly ugly, so long as they were still able to make their way in the world. Except that everyone aways wants beauty as the visual aspect of goodness, so eventually the uglies would find and mix with the beautiful.

    • Agree: Liza
  120. Hey Steve,

    You sure this composite sketch was really original from the Soviets in 1960s? It looks more like something used by the Czar’s secret police in ~ 1905.

    The Tartar guy is definitely Lenin.

    The late Soviets didn’t openly “name the J” like was done here, it was much more subtle – “Cosmopolitans”, “Trotskyites”, “Zionists” – kind of like what we have to do now here in Zio America.

    We can’t publish cartoons with George Soros as the puppeteer with a Star of David around his neck.

    The Js try to claim that the worst ethnic Js like Trotsky, Harvey Weinstein, Bernie Maidoff, Tim Wise and George Soros aren’t Js because they aren’t religious practicing Js.

    The Russians, Germans, Ukrainians then and now understand Js are an ethnic group like Tartars.

  121. @Anon 2
    For some reason Polish musicians have been known for their
    unearthly beauty.

    The latest example is Jakub Józef Orliński, 31, operatic countertenor,
    often mentioned as one of the Top 10 male opera singers. Last year
    he won an International Opera Award, basically Opera Oscar, for
    “Facce d’Amore.” He has a four-octave vocal range, and seems to
    prefer Baroque composers such as Purcell, Vivaldi or Handel. He’s
    very much in demand. Last spring he performed at a magnificent
    concert hall in St. Petersburg, Russia. The Russian audience was
    so enthusiastic they wouldn’t let him off the stage. Last fall he sang at
    the Met in New York, and currently he is at the Royal Opera House
    in London. Since he also looks like Michelangelo’s David, it’s not
    surprising that he has a worldwide cult following, and sometimes
    gets millions of views on YouTube. It doesn’t hurt that he has
    a great sense of humor, and warms up before performances
    by practicing breakdancing.

    One of the earlier examples was Ignacy Jan Paderewski, a great
    pianist who became a celebrity already in the 1890s, toured
    the United States a number of times (By the way, he thought
    Chicago was more magnificent than New York), was friends
    with American presidents, and did much to restore Polish
    independence after WW I. He was descended from Polish
    nobility, and was regarded as a magnificent example of
    male beauty so much so that during a visit in London he
    was stalked by one of the Pre-Raphaelite painters who
    told his friends that Paderewski was the most beautiful man
    he has ever seen. Indeed, there is a portrait of Paderewski
    by the Dutch painter Lawrence Alma-Tadema (1890) that
    gives us a hint of what Ignacy Paderewski looked like.

    Replies: @Anon 2, @J.Ross, @annonymous

    Anon 2

    You seem like you really know your classical music art? Would you like to be a guest on a popular Populist Conservative radio show that’s run out of Tennessee?

    U can contact us through:

    The Political Cesspool Radio show
    Hosted by James Edwards every Saturday Night 6-9 pm Central Time.

  122. @raga10
    @PiltdownMan


    Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.
     
    Georgian women beat them both! But if I had to pick between these two only, I'd definitely look at Ukrainians first. Appearance-vise Russians often have this sort of facial features I describe as "carved out of a potato" - Anna Kournikova was a perfect example of what I mean... Ukrainian women look more European.

    Replies: @annonymous, @NC

    rag10 thinks Anna Kournikova wasn’t/isn’t attractive…..

    Can I ask you sir if you tilt more to the rear end of men than the female sex?

    Anna Kournikova is one of THE most beautiful women athletes of the last 100 years.

    She married Enrique I and their children are….

    Amazing!

    • Replies: @raga10
    @annonymous


    rag10 thinks Anna Kournikova wasn’t/isn’t attractive…..
     
    That was not what I said. She definitely was attractive, especially in posed shots where you can hide a lot of imperfections. She also had a banging body, no argument there! All the same she had this typical Russian face, kind of doughy and soft; you could see it better when she wasn't wearing make-up, and rest assured you will see it more and more as she gets older.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

  123. @PiltdownMan
    A Google search for "How to Tell Russians from Ukrainians" brings what appears to be dozens of web pages and sites devoted to explaining the differences between Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.

    Replies: @Anon, @YetAnotherAnon, @raga10, @Lurker

    I’d like to be able to better distinguish Russian from Ukrainian women. If someone could arrange for me to get as much hands-on experience as possible in furtherance of this research, that would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Lurker

    I dated a "Ukrainian" nationalist woman. Her father had been a captain in the Soviet nuclear submarine navy. My girlfriend was an engineer who had worked on laser gyroscopes for the Soviet Union. (She explained to me, literally drawing on a cocktail napkin -- how such things worked. I was amazed, because I thought Einstein's Relativity precluded such functions, but somehow it worked.)

    She was a tall brunette with blue eyes, divorced with a young daughter. She loved to fuck. She found it sexy when I was still wearing my socks while naked.

    Her blond, Russian girlfriend often went out with us. That girl was a stunning blonde with a typically James Bond style of speaking. (This is the only real-life comparison I can make between Russian and Ukranian women, here in the United States.) The Russian girl's words and mannerisms were stereotypically Russian woman. I found her very desirable, but I was faithful to my "Ukrainian" girlfriend. That is the only comparison I can make.

    Note: From what I have learned, the distinction between Russians and "Ukrainians" is about as significant as the distinction between US Americans and Texans. Sure, Texas was once a "republic," and now it has been a state approximately forever. Think: Our American incursions and corruptions inside The Ukraine are about as if the old Soviet KGB infiltrated Texas, overthrew its elections, and put in place a fake government opposed to the United States and favorable to the Soviet Union.

    None of this should be happening.

    Cheers.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Liza, @raga10, @J.Ross

  124. @Gordo
    The day NATO seized Kosovo from Serbia they lost all rights to complain about Russia liberating their co-ethnics in Eastern and Central Ukraine.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    There is minimal public sentiment in the Ukraine in favor of re-incorporation in Russia and this is so in every part of the country. Those favoring a Russophile foreign policy might be a plurality in the Donetsk and Lukhansk Oblasts but outnumbered 5-1 in every other part of the country. No one would be ‘liberated’ except the addled heads of Russian revanchists.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Art Deco

    Lol those are largely postsovok peasants. They do not have a "sentiment" or an "ideology". TV tells them they are winning and Russia crumbles day by day. Should TV tells them opposite, they will change the sentiment accordingly.

    Well there us Western Ukraine, that was part of Austrian Empire, these folks are not sovok but balkanoids.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  125. @Lurker
    @PiltdownMan

    I'd like to be able to better distinguish Russian from Ukrainian women. If someone could arrange for me to get as much hands-on experience as possible in furtherance of this research, that would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    I dated a “Ukrainian” nationalist woman. Her father had been a captain in the Soviet nuclear submarine navy. My girlfriend was an engineer who had worked on laser gyroscopes for the Soviet Union. (She explained to me, literally drawing on a cocktail napkin — how such things worked. I was amazed, because I thought Einstein’s Relativity precluded such functions, but somehow it worked.)

    She was a tall brunette with blue eyes, divorced with a young daughter. She loved to fuck. She found it sexy when I was still wearing my socks while naked.

    Her blond, Russian girlfriend often went out with us. That girl was a stunning blonde with a typically James Bond style of speaking. (This is the only real-life comparison I can make between Russian and Ukranian women, here in the United States.) The Russian girl’s words and mannerisms were stereotypically Russian woman. I found her very desirable, but I was faithful to my “Ukrainian” girlfriend. That is the only comparison I can make.

    Note: From what I have learned, the distinction between Russians and “Ukrainians” is about as significant as the distinction between US Americans and Texans. Sure, Texas was once a “republic,” and now it has been a state approximately forever. Think: Our American incursions and corruptions inside The Ukraine are about as if the old Soviet KGB infiltrated Texas, overthrew its elections, and put in place a fake government opposed to the United States and favorable to the Soviet Union.

    None of this should be happening.

    Cheers.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Texas was a Republic for nine years and happily accepted annexation. There is minimal sentiment in the Ukraine in favor of annexation. The western part of the country was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for over 300 years. Russia, Prussia, and the Hapsburgs insisted on chowing down on that country during the period running from 1772-95.

    , @Liza
    @Buzz Mohawk


    the distinction between Russians and “Ukrainians”
     
    There was enough of a distinction back around 1920 for that collection of tribes now called Ukraine to want to have their own country separate and apart from Russia.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

    , @raga10
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Note: From what I have learned, the distinction between Russians and “Ukrainians” is about as significant as the distinction between US Americans and Texans.
     
    As far as I know Texans might have a distinct accent, but they speak the same language as the rest of America. Ukrainian and Russian on the other hand are closely related of course, but they are two different languages. In fact their alphabets are different - Ukrainian has some extra letters.
    , @J.Ross
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Ukrainian cities are the actual cradle of Russian culture, language, state, et cetera. Moscow became important in the age of divided city-states kowtowing to Mongols because Moscow was better at collecting rent than other kapos. Ukrainians over time sought to distinguish themselves from Russians (there is an argument that Lithuanians are Russians who latinnified their language as a long-shot tax dodge) but they were one people at the start. Metaphor might work better with Virginia.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  126. @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Muggles

    Who is Robert Service? I mean which MI-service#. Everyone knows Lenin had very little russian blood, if any . A Swede-Kalmyk with admixtures of Jewish here and there. His father looked almost oriental.

    Replies: @Muggles

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Service_(historian)

    His Wikipedia entry.

    A very well respected British historian.

    You might try reading a thick book now and again to gain knowledge.

  127. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Lurker

    I dated a "Ukrainian" nationalist woman. Her father had been a captain in the Soviet nuclear submarine navy. My girlfriend was an engineer who had worked on laser gyroscopes for the Soviet Union. (She explained to me, literally drawing on a cocktail napkin -- how such things worked. I was amazed, because I thought Einstein's Relativity precluded such functions, but somehow it worked.)

    She was a tall brunette with blue eyes, divorced with a young daughter. She loved to fuck. She found it sexy when I was still wearing my socks while naked.

    Her blond, Russian girlfriend often went out with us. That girl was a stunning blonde with a typically James Bond style of speaking. (This is the only real-life comparison I can make between Russian and Ukranian women, here in the United States.) The Russian girl's words and mannerisms were stereotypically Russian woman. I found her very desirable, but I was faithful to my "Ukrainian" girlfriend. That is the only comparison I can make.

    Note: From what I have learned, the distinction between Russians and "Ukrainians" is about as significant as the distinction between US Americans and Texans. Sure, Texas was once a "republic," and now it has been a state approximately forever. Think: Our American incursions and corruptions inside The Ukraine are about as if the old Soviet KGB infiltrated Texas, overthrew its elections, and put in place a fake government opposed to the United States and favorable to the Soviet Union.

    None of this should be happening.

    Cheers.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Liza, @raga10, @J.Ross

    Texas was a Republic for nine years and happily accepted annexation. There is minimal sentiment in the Ukraine in favor of annexation. The western part of the country was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for over 300 years. Russia, Prussia, and the Hapsburgs insisted on chowing down on that country during the period running from 1772-95.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  128. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Lurker

    I dated a "Ukrainian" nationalist woman. Her father had been a captain in the Soviet nuclear submarine navy. My girlfriend was an engineer who had worked on laser gyroscopes for the Soviet Union. (She explained to me, literally drawing on a cocktail napkin -- how such things worked. I was amazed, because I thought Einstein's Relativity precluded such functions, but somehow it worked.)

    She was a tall brunette with blue eyes, divorced with a young daughter. She loved to fuck. She found it sexy when I was still wearing my socks while naked.

    Her blond, Russian girlfriend often went out with us. That girl was a stunning blonde with a typically James Bond style of speaking. (This is the only real-life comparison I can make between Russian and Ukranian women, here in the United States.) The Russian girl's words and mannerisms were stereotypically Russian woman. I found her very desirable, but I was faithful to my "Ukrainian" girlfriend. That is the only comparison I can make.

    Note: From what I have learned, the distinction between Russians and "Ukrainians" is about as significant as the distinction between US Americans and Texans. Sure, Texas was once a "republic," and now it has been a state approximately forever. Think: Our American incursions and corruptions inside The Ukraine are about as if the old Soviet KGB infiltrated Texas, overthrew its elections, and put in place a fake government opposed to the United States and favorable to the Soviet Union.

    None of this should be happening.

    Cheers.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Liza, @raga10, @J.Ross

    the distinction between Russians and “Ukrainians”

    There was enough of a distinction back around 1920 for that collection of tribes now called Ukraine to want to have their own country separate and apart from Russia.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Liza

    Well yes, like Injuns of Canada now want their own country separate and apart, like the Welsh nation , whatever.

    It is a piece of cake in 20th century, to create a fake identity and claim the new nations right to self determination.

    Replies: @raga10, @YetAnotherAnon, @Liza

  129. @raga10
    @PiltdownMan


    Russian women and Ukrainian women as partners for men and as marriage material.
     
    Georgian women beat them both! But if I had to pick between these two only, I'd definitely look at Ukrainians first. Appearance-vise Russians often have this sort of facial features I describe as "carved out of a potato" - Anna Kournikova was a perfect example of what I mean... Ukrainian women look more European.

    Replies: @annonymous, @NC

    Appearance-vise Russians often have this sort of facial features I describe as “carved out of a potato” – Anna Kournikova was a perfect example of what I mean…

    Agreed, it didn’t keep her from being the pinup girl for my generation though. I remember saying to people in 1999 that Kournikova had the same facial features as Nikita Khrushchev, but no one else seemed to care.

    https://ibb.co/mT31gLp

  130. Surprise! The Kazakh looks nothing like Sasha Baron Cohen in “Borat.” The latter looks suspiciously like the Azerbaijani or the Georgian.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Fidelios Automata

    Borat, a retread of Borsht Belt Polack routines, was originally Albanian. Actual Albanians suggested to Cohen that he was composed of easily separated tissue and organs, and Cohen decided to go with Kazakhs, because nobody knew anything about them but also because they do not have a mafia presense in Western cities.
    So we actually could have avoided Borat and possibly Sacha Baron Cohen's early career had we only menaced him.

  131. You could argue there’s little practical difference between an Irishman and an Englishman in 2022, an outsider to both countries would probably struggle to differentiate them with any degree of certainty, but few would argue that Ireland is not entitled to be its own totally separate country in any case.

    I see the Russia and Ukraine question in a similar context to this really.

    • Replies: @oliver elkington
    @Anonymous

    I can't say i am an expert in the phenotypes of Russians on the edge of the Ukranian border but i imagine that they look similar, much more similar to Ukranians than Romanians who tend to be very unSlav in their looks. Irish do have a distinct look which is apparent as soon as you land there, some Scots can look similar but you would never mistake a group of people from county Offaly for people from say Cheshire if you have spent enough time living in or dealing with people from the British isles.

  132. Try as I may to read a thick book, I didn’t get very far.

    I get all my knowledge from Internet snippets.

  133. @annonymous
    @raga10

    rag10 thinks Anna Kournikova wasn't/isn't attractive.....

    Can I ask you sir if you tilt more to the rear end of men than the female sex?

    Anna Kournikova is one of THE most beautiful women athletes of the last 100 years.

    She married Enrique I and their children are....

    Amazing!

    Replies: @raga10

    rag10 thinks Anna Kournikova wasn’t/isn’t attractive…..

    That was not what I said. She definitely was attractive, especially in posed shots where you can hide a lot of imperfections. She also had a banging body, no argument there! All the same she had this typical Russian face, kind of doughy and soft; you could see it better when she wasn’t wearing make-up, and rest assured you will see it more and more as she gets older.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    @raga10

    Anna Kournikova might well be part Jewish , thats why her face shape is like Elizabet Holmes.

  134. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Lurker

    I dated a "Ukrainian" nationalist woman. Her father had been a captain in the Soviet nuclear submarine navy. My girlfriend was an engineer who had worked on laser gyroscopes for the Soviet Union. (She explained to me, literally drawing on a cocktail napkin -- how such things worked. I was amazed, because I thought Einstein's Relativity precluded such functions, but somehow it worked.)

    She was a tall brunette with blue eyes, divorced with a young daughter. She loved to fuck. She found it sexy when I was still wearing my socks while naked.

    Her blond, Russian girlfriend often went out with us. That girl was a stunning blonde with a typically James Bond style of speaking. (This is the only real-life comparison I can make between Russian and Ukranian women, here in the United States.) The Russian girl's words and mannerisms were stereotypically Russian woman. I found her very desirable, but I was faithful to my "Ukrainian" girlfriend. That is the only comparison I can make.

    Note: From what I have learned, the distinction between Russians and "Ukrainians" is about as significant as the distinction between US Americans and Texans. Sure, Texas was once a "republic," and now it has been a state approximately forever. Think: Our American incursions and corruptions inside The Ukraine are about as if the old Soviet KGB infiltrated Texas, overthrew its elections, and put in place a fake government opposed to the United States and favorable to the Soviet Union.

    None of this should be happening.

    Cheers.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Liza, @raga10, @J.Ross

    Note: From what I have learned, the distinction between Russians and “Ukrainians” is about as significant as the distinction between US Americans and Texans.

    As far as I know Texans might have a distinct accent, but they speak the same language as the rest of America. Ukrainian and Russian on the other hand are closely related of course, but they are two different languages. In fact their alphabets are different – Ukrainian has some extra letters.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  135. @Lagertha
    This is the wet dreams of the Cabal/the Bolsheviks because their Khazarians killed off the Rus in a 'small war' and, they, thought (still do) that they won....NOT! hahhahhahahhaaaaa! They have been losing for thousands of years - this is why they tried to kill us off with WW1 & 2. This is why The Lord of the Rings was written. Wake the Fuck Up! if you think you are learned and smart and all that shit.

    Wake the FUCK up! We are fighting against people who think that torturing and killing children is their strength to nirvana. These people have been harvesting our "missing children" for decades. They are carnivores. Wake the Fuck Up!!!!

    Replies: @Lagertha

    Michael Jackson and I are on Team Putin: we are against the cannibals. We are against the Arenochrome junkies

  136. @Anonymous
    You could argue there's little practical difference between an Irishman and an Englishman in 2022, an outsider to both countries would probably struggle to differentiate them with any degree of certainty, but few would argue that Ireland is not entitled to be its own totally separate country in any case.

    I see the Russia and Ukraine question in a similar context to this really.

    Replies: @oliver elkington

    I can’t say i am an expert in the phenotypes of Russians on the edge of the Ukranian border but i imagine that they look similar, much more similar to Ukranians than Romanians who tend to be very unSlav in their looks. Irish do have a distinct look which is apparent as soon as you land there, some Scots can look similar but you would never mistake a group of people from county Offaly for people from say Cheshire if you have spent enough time living in or dealing with people from the British isles.

  137. @raga10
    @annonymous


    rag10 thinks Anna Kournikova wasn’t/isn’t attractive…..
     
    That was not what I said. She definitely was attractive, especially in posed shots where you can hide a lot of imperfections. She also had a banging body, no argument there! All the same she had this typical Russian face, kind of doughy and soft; you could see it better when she wasn't wearing make-up, and rest assured you will see it more and more as she gets older.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

    Anna Kournikova might well be part Jewish , thats why her face shape is like Elizabet Holmes.

  138. @Liza
    @Buzz Mohawk


    the distinction between Russians and “Ukrainians”
     
    There was enough of a distinction back around 1920 for that collection of tribes now called Ukraine to want to have their own country separate and apart from Russia.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

    Well yes, like Injuns of Canada now want their own country separate and apart, like the Welsh nation , whatever.

    It is a piece of cake in 20th century, to create a fake identity and claim the new nations right to self determination.

    • Replies: @raga10
    @Thelma Ringbaum


    like the Welsh nation , whatever.
     
    Welsh certainly have their own identity going back centuries; just look at the Welsh language, it has next to nothing in common with Standard English.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Thelma Ringbaum

    Well, like the Indians/First Nations/whatever of Canada, the Welsh are the aboriginal inhabitants - the "Ancient Britons" who the Romans would have met. When the Saxons drove them out of what's now England, they fled/went into Wales and Cornwall, across to Brittany (hence the name) and even as far as Galicia in what's now Spain.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britonia


    "Britonia is therefore similar to Brittany in Gaul (present-day France), in that it was settled by expatriate Britons at roughly the same time. But unlike in Brittany, the Celts settling in the Iberian Britonia were eventually assimilated, completely losing their original language and culture."
     
    anon - there are definitely "Irish" facial types, from Wayne Rooney "wanted poster" to the classic heart-shaped face of pretty Irish girls, but Ireland has had Normans, English, Scots admixture.

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190106192454-01-wayne-rooney-taken-into-custody-for-public-intoxication-file-exlarge-169.jpg

    https://www.byrdie.com/thmb/xMtA1slwS8o33LxlxgDKYu0HNpU=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/cdn.cliqueinc.com__cache__posts__229441__irish-beauty-facts-229441-1499896838720-main.700x0c-050f36308d094e5eb4fbeeb0572f844e-1681acf918024bf78d00fd132b31992a.jpg
    , @Liza
    @Thelma Ringbaum


    Well yes, like Injuns of Canada now want their own country separate and apart, like the Welsh nation , whatever.

     

    The abos of Canada want a nation (in the sense of a country) separate and apart but fully financed and forever supported by Canuckistanis. If that is what Ukies wanted back in 1920, i.e., gibs forever, from Russians and/or the various other ethnic groups who were running their show off and on for aeons, I can't say if that was so or not.

    If I were a Ukie today I'd probably want to join up with Russia if Russia was sincere but like the criminals in Washington, they may just be putting on a big show for the world. It is hard to say.

  139. @Art Deco
    @Gordo

    There is minimal public sentiment in the Ukraine in favor of re-incorporation in Russia and this is so in every part of the country. Those favoring a Russophile foreign policy might be a plurality in the Donetsk and Lukhansk Oblasts but outnumbered 5-1 in every other part of the country. No one would be 'liberated' except the addled heads of Russian revanchists.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

    Lol those are largely postsovok peasants. They do not have a “sentiment” or an “ideology”. TV tells them they are winning and Russia crumbles day by day. Should TV tells them opposite, they will change the sentiment accordingly.

    Well there us Western Ukraine, that was part of Austrian Empire, these folks are not sovok but balkanoids.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Thelma Ringbaum

    Lol those are largely postsovok peasants. They do not have a “sentiment” or an “ideology”. TV tells them they are winning and Russia crumbles day by day. Should TV tells them opposite, they will change the sentiment accordingly.

    About 14% of the Ukraine's working population is found in the agricultural sector. Thanks for the issue of your imagination.

  140. @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Liza

    Well yes, like Injuns of Canada now want their own country separate and apart, like the Welsh nation , whatever.

    It is a piece of cake in 20th century, to create a fake identity and claim the new nations right to self determination.

    Replies: @raga10, @YetAnotherAnon, @Liza

    like the Welsh nation , whatever.

    Welsh certainly have their own identity going back centuries; just look at the Welsh language, it has next to nothing in common with Standard English.

  141. @YetAnotherAnon
    @PiltdownMan

    I've noticed that after fifteen years of being exposed to Eastern Europeans, I'm starting to be able to tell my Poles from my Romanians, and both from my Balts.

    Some Lithuanian women are good looking, which I haven't really noticed with Romanians. And I've met several outstandingly attractive and intelligent Hungarian girls.

    Kosovan women, headscarved and with five kids in tow, or selling the Big Issue in my local High Street, are not attractive, save obviously to Kosovan men.

    Replies: @Rahan

    I’ve known one Kosovar woman quite attractive in a Hungarian sort of way, and a few Romanian ones attractive in a 1960s Italian cinema sort of way.

  142. @The Anti-Gnostic
    https://i.imgur.com/z8LWp0M.jpg

    Do Moldovans and Lithuanians have a reputation for being dim and cloddish? Also, the Latvian looks pretty suave.

    Keith William Richards and Tommy Kominik look like everybody's mental image of a Jewish loanshark's Russian heavies but based on their surnames they appear to be of Anglo and Czech ancestry, respectively.

    https://i.imgur.com/PlMWNQ4.jpg

    Replies: @Rahan

    Do Moldovans and Lithuanians have a reputation for being dim and cloddish? Also, the Latvian looks pretty suave.

    Estonians are supposed to be the slow ones. Moldovans seen as agriculture-focused wine-loving hobbits. The Latvian looks like an ideal manly type from a Soviet poster.

    The Russian type looks drunk and ill, the Belorussian one — like a sober and healthy version of the Russian, and the Ukrainian looks like a Germanic peasant.

  143. @Fidelios Automata
    Surprise! The Kazakh looks nothing like Sasha Baron Cohen in "Borat." The latter looks suspiciously like the Azerbaijani or the Georgian.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Borat, a retread of Borsht Belt Polack routines, was originally Albanian. Actual Albanians suggested to Cohen that he was composed of easily separated tissue and organs, and Cohen decided to go with Kazakhs, because nobody knew anything about them but also because they do not have a mafia presense in Western cities.
    So we actually could have avoided Borat and possibly Sacha Baron Cohen’s early career had we only menaced him.

  144. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Lurker

    I dated a "Ukrainian" nationalist woman. Her father had been a captain in the Soviet nuclear submarine navy. My girlfriend was an engineer who had worked on laser gyroscopes for the Soviet Union. (She explained to me, literally drawing on a cocktail napkin -- how such things worked. I was amazed, because I thought Einstein's Relativity precluded such functions, but somehow it worked.)

    She was a tall brunette with blue eyes, divorced with a young daughter. She loved to fuck. She found it sexy when I was still wearing my socks while naked.

    Her blond, Russian girlfriend often went out with us. That girl was a stunning blonde with a typically James Bond style of speaking. (This is the only real-life comparison I can make between Russian and Ukranian women, here in the United States.) The Russian girl's words and mannerisms were stereotypically Russian woman. I found her very desirable, but I was faithful to my "Ukrainian" girlfriend. That is the only comparison I can make.

    Note: From what I have learned, the distinction between Russians and "Ukrainians" is about as significant as the distinction between US Americans and Texans. Sure, Texas was once a "republic," and now it has been a state approximately forever. Think: Our American incursions and corruptions inside The Ukraine are about as if the old Soviet KGB infiltrated Texas, overthrew its elections, and put in place a fake government opposed to the United States and favorable to the Soviet Union.

    None of this should be happening.

    Cheers.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Liza, @raga10, @J.Ross

    Ukrainian cities are the actual cradle of Russian culture, language, state, et cetera. Moscow became important in the age of divided city-states kowtowing to Mongols because Moscow was better at collecting rent than other kapos. Ukrainians over time sought to distinguish themselves from Russians (there is an argument that Lithuanians are Russians who latinnified their language as a long-shot tax dodge) but they were one people at the start. Metaphor might work better with Virginia.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @J.Ross


    Ukrainian cities are the actual cradle of Russian culture, language, state, et cetera.
     
    One thing I learned from my girlfriend and her father was that the Ukraine was also a cradle of Russian technology. Witness the work she and her father did. Remember also that one condition for Ukrainian independence was their giving up nuclear weapons, which they helped create.
  145. @J.Ross
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Ukrainian cities are the actual cradle of Russian culture, language, state, et cetera. Moscow became important in the age of divided city-states kowtowing to Mongols because Moscow was better at collecting rent than other kapos. Ukrainians over time sought to distinguish themselves from Russians (there is an argument that Lithuanians are Russians who latinnified their language as a long-shot tax dodge) but they were one people at the start. Metaphor might work better with Virginia.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Ukrainian cities are the actual cradle of Russian culture, language, state, et cetera.

    One thing I learned from my girlfriend and her father was that the Ukraine was also a cradle of Russian technology. Witness the work she and her father did. Remember also that one condition for Ukrainian independence was their giving up nuclear weapons, which they helped create.

  146. @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Liza

    Well yes, like Injuns of Canada now want their own country separate and apart, like the Welsh nation , whatever.

    It is a piece of cake in 20th century, to create a fake identity and claim the new nations right to self determination.

    Replies: @raga10, @YetAnotherAnon, @Liza

    Well, like the Indians/First Nations/whatever of Canada, the Welsh are the aboriginal inhabitants – the “Ancient Britons” who the Romans would have met. When the Saxons drove them out of what’s now England, they fled/went into Wales and Cornwall, across to Brittany (hence the name) and even as far as Galicia in what’s now Spain.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britonia

    “Britonia is therefore similar to Brittany in Gaul (present-day France), in that it was settled by expatriate Britons at roughly the same time. But unlike in Brittany, the Celts settling in the Iberian Britonia were eventually assimilated, completely losing their original language and culture.”

    anon – there are definitely “Irish” facial types, from Wayne Rooney “wanted poster” to the classic heart-shaped face of pretty Irish girls, but Ireland has had Normans, English, Scots admixture.

  147. Humanity is evolving morally, albeit at a glacial pace.
    As a result, my impression is that the big-boned blocky faces
    that were the Nordic/Germanic ideal in Nazi Germany are now
    going out of style. You look at sharp-featured, big-boned faces
    (e.g., Schwarzenegger), and what do you see? You see aggressiveness,
    that is the opposite of loving kindness which is the moral
    ideal.

    Nowadays, it seems, more delicate (but not too delicate), gracile features
    are beginning to be viewed as more attractive. One reason is that the population
    center of gravity has moved to Asia (since Asia has 4.7 billion people),
    so a typical human being is Asian. Whites now constitute a small minority,
    globally speaking – only about 1 billion people. But East and Southeast
    Asians have more rounded facial features. Anyway, it’s facial symmetry
    that is the key to beauty, rather than anything else.

  148. @Moses
    @Frau Katze

    Beside the point.

    As Elie Wiesel might say, “Never happened but true.” I.e., sure the perp here was Muslim but all you Whites are potential Cossacks to us Jews.

    Replies: @Derer

    Why is that? The tree leaves will not move without wind.

  149. @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Art Deco

    Lol those are largely postsovok peasants. They do not have a "sentiment" or an "ideology". TV tells them they are winning and Russia crumbles day by day. Should TV tells them opposite, they will change the sentiment accordingly.

    Well there us Western Ukraine, that was part of Austrian Empire, these folks are not sovok but balkanoids.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Lol those are largely postsovok peasants. They do not have a “sentiment” or an “ideology”. TV tells them they are winning and Russia crumbles day by day. Should TV tells them opposite, they will change the sentiment accordingly.

    About 14% of the Ukraine’s working population is found in the agricultural sector. Thanks for the issue of your imagination.

  150. @Stan Adams
    @Almost Missouri


    I’m sure I’ve seen them here before
     
    You have:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/stereotypes-of-criminals-in-san-francisco-vs-russia/

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Thanks. How did you find that? Or did you just happen to remember it?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Almost Missouri

    You're welcome.

    I remembered seeing the picture, but I couldn't recall the specific post. I Googled russian stereotypes site:unz.com/isteve. It was the first result.

  151. @Almost Missouri
    @Stan Adams

    Thanks. How did you find that? Or did you just happen to remember it?

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    You’re welcome.

    I remembered seeing the picture, but I couldn’t recall the specific post. I Googled russian stereotypes site:unz.com/isteve. It was the first result.

  152. @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Liza

    Well yes, like Injuns of Canada now want their own country separate and apart, like the Welsh nation , whatever.

    It is a piece of cake in 20th century, to create a fake identity and claim the new nations right to self determination.

    Replies: @raga10, @YetAnotherAnon, @Liza

    Well yes, like Injuns of Canada now want their own country separate and apart, like the Welsh nation , whatever.

    The abos of Canada want a nation (in the sense of a country) separate and apart but fully financed and forever supported by Canuckistanis. If that is what Ukies wanted back in 1920, i.e., gibs forever, from Russians and/or the various other ethnic groups who were running their show off and on for aeons, I can’t say if that was so or not.

    If I were a Ukie today I’d probably want to join up with Russia if Russia was sincere but like the criminals in Washington, they may just be putting on a big show for the world. It is hard to say.

  153. @Intelligent Dasein
    @International Jew


    They’re all supposed to be criminals.
     
    They all are criminals. Or composites of criminals actually. The sketches represent the average face of actual criminals known by the Soviet police to be of those nationalities.

    Replies: @International Jew

    The Jewish guy looks like a white-collar criminal at most.

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