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In this current paroxysm of Establishment-driven hate and fear, how long until a mob of good-thinkers lynches somebody?

I can imagine the subsequent op-eds putting the no-doubt regrettable event into appropriate historical perspective: while the lynching of a suspected racist Nazi white supremacist was unfortunate, we must always remember the thousands of black men (not to mention Leo Frank) who were lynched by, no doubt, blood ancestors of the dead man, so when considering the long sweep of history, this modest erosion of white privilege must be tallied up as, on the whole, part of the arc of the moral universe bending toward justice etc etc

 
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  1. It will never happen, and when it does the loathsome despicable white racist hater will have fully deserved it anyway.

    • Troll: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Randal


    It will never happen...
     
    There have been a multitude of killings announced as repayment for past wrong-thinking sins (Omar Thornton et al); the Good Thinkers haven't denounced them for that content.

    And it happens in a multitude of smaller ways via lost job opportunities and the lessening of other life prospects by the usual subtle and overt hate YT campaign we've got going on.

    Replies: @Olorin

  2. I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans. The foreign community in Paphos is mainly POM or Russian with the waitering done by Bulgarians.

    This morning I did something I would not normall do; I watched CNN. The content of the conversation was unhinged. It was deluded, paranoid and irrational.

    The “pundits” saw themselves as part of a great moral crusade whose victory would be assured only when the saboteurs and wreckers from America’s imperfect past were finally swept away.

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    • Replies: @Jake
    @22pp22

    It was American PC, American cultural Marxism, American Social Justice Warrior public speech on display.

    It has been beyond 'real;;y spiteful' for a long time. Now, it is inching toward street cleaning revolution - to bring peace, freedom of speech and the rights of all people.

    , @AM
    @22pp22


    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans.
     
    I wish I spoke English as my mother tongue, but as it is, I'm an American.
    , @Hunsdon
    @22pp22

    It has the potential to get kinetic really fast.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @notanon
    @22pp22

    2000 years of evolved paranoia - the swastika flag at Cville has triggered them into full on bolshevik mode

    this was always going to happen eventually - better it happens now than 20 years time

    , @Jim Christian
    @22pp22


    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.
     
    The Saker, Fred, Steve, all of em, their common theme is, "this doesn't end well". And so it isn't. Or hasn't. Or won't.
    , @JamesG
    @22pp22

    CNN is sick.

    Today all other channels were reporting the terror attacks in Spain and in Finland.

    I checked CNN and they were projectile-vomiting "Charlottesville."

    , @TheJester
    @22pp22

    As iSteve mentions, the new immigrants have very, very loose connections to America's political, social, and religious traditions. Why would a Muslim or Hindi immigrant, for example, value democracy, freedom of speech, or a constitution order? A law-abiding, high-trust, altruistic social order is there for the taking ... an opportunity to exploit its vulnerabilities, not praise its virtues.

    My perception is that many new immigrant groups see the United States as an entrepôt ... a temporary trading station to direct work and wealth to family, clan, or caste back in the home country. It is a form of looting i.e. redirecting software projects and other IT work, let's say, to Mumbai as the raison d'être for family members immigrating to the United States in the first place.

    As for the natives, schools have ceased teaching civics in schools, which accounts for the inability of most high school and university students to explain the organization of our government or recite the salient points in the Constitution. In the interests of multiculturalism, schools have also ceased teaching anything about Western Civilization. This makes it so much easier for youngsters to "drink the Koolaid" about white privilege and white oppression.

    "Who fought who in WWII?" "I dunno ... and I don't care."

    Hence, multiculturalism alienates and makes enemies of one's own children. When forced to teach about a rainbow of immigrant cultures, one forfeits the time and resources to teach your children about your own. By default, it also brings credence to minority and immigrant complaints and demands for reparations based on disparate impacts because the children have nothing in their experience or education to bring balance or perspective to the complaints. They live hermetically sealed in a cultural and political vacuum that only gives the megaphone to complainers who do not reciprocate in valuing the multicultural perspective -- which to them is a one-way street.

    Multiculturalism is a trap that forfeits one's economic, social, and political legacies to the newcomers. They've sprung the trap. The looting of America has begun. It's time to circle the wagons ... or surrender.

  3. Jon Stewart Chides Spike Lee: ‘Sending a Lynch Mob to Anybody’s Address Is a Bad Mistake’

    http://www.thewrap.com/jon-stewart-chides-spike-lee-sending-lynch-mob-anybodys-address-bad-mistake-36671/

    • Replies: @res
    @George

    And look at how it turned out: http://thejasminebrand.com/2014/08/08/exclusive-spike-lee-wins-legal-victory-george-zimmerman-tweet-lawsuit/

    And justice for all. At least we know now why they have Lady Justice blindfolded in courtrooms--it is clearly not for objectivity. They just don't want to subject her to watching the acts committed in her name.

    Replies: @larry lurker

  4. Lynching looks like it takes some effort – capturing and subduing a person (w/o hurting him/her too much in the process) (who wants to lynch a coma patient?), getting the knot right, not to mention organizing the thing w/o attracting the attention of the authorities and getting shut down before you get started. (Lynchings, from my understanding, were supposed to be an event.) I doubt pink-haired trannies and BLM thug rats would ever try this.

    Now necklacing, OTOH … I can see that happening sometime in the near future. Cheap, quick, low effort, maximum pain. Sounds like something Gen Z could get into.

    • Agree: James Richard
    • Replies: @AM
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia


    Sounds like something Gen Z could get into.
     
    Okay, I know you're semi-serious, but my reply is kinda more serious.

    Generation Z is being raised by Generation X. Pray we're doing a better job.

    Right now, it's the millennials who display this odd devotion to feelings and equality, perhaps being the children of the end of the Boomers has something to do with it.

    White Generation Z would have voted Trump, close to 70% with the boys.


    Lynchings, from my understanding, were supposed to be an event.
     
    It's me and like 2 other modern Catholics that agree with this point of the teaching, but if there is going to be an execution for crime, it must absolutely be public. If someone is to justly lose their lives for crime, then life is still so precious that the event needs to be used to discourage future crime and death. If a young future criminal hesitates or delays or does something altogether different from seeing the results of crime, then that's the point.

    In other words, all these modern private executions of criminals are not the ideal, even if public executions can have an inappropriate carnival feel at times.

    Lynchings seem to appear in places where the police are unreliable or non-existent. The rural South appears to been very similar to the wild west in terms of policing levels. Except they had to deal with one of the more violent population groups on the planet. Not an excuse for no trial, but lynchings seem less monstrous when placed in context.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @cynthia curran

    , @fnn
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    A lot of different definitions of "lynching" seem to be in use. It used to at least be popularly understood as killing by done by a more or less large group, non-clandestinely, under color of law. The Leo Frank killing was like that, the killing of Emmett Till quite the opposite.

    Replies: @Logan

    , @bored identity
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    bored identity agrees;

    BLMANTIFA's Slow Tiki-Torching of some unfortunate MAGA-hat-wearing-and-after-hours-wrong-turn-to-Englewood-taking Whitey is just waiting to happen.


    And if you're Whitey, the best way to avoid lynching is not to wear a classic white nationalist uniform - khaki shorts and white polo shirts , that is:

    https://youtu.be/x-sXdDTVauY

  5. Last week, it was Trump-Russia collusion 24/7 now it’s Trump colluding with Nazis? They need to make up their minds and settle on one propaganda point.

    The same people who want to blow up Mt. Rushmore will be the ones supplying the rope.

    Maybe replace those iconic figures with ones of Joe Stalin, Chairman Mao and Lenin?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-17/lets-blow-mount-rushmore-says-vice

    • Replies: @Jack ryan
    @Greg Bacon

    It s "Whatevergate"

    , @Jack ryan
    @Greg Bacon

    It s "Whatevergate"

  6. • Replies: @Gunner
    @eah

    That looks like how I imagine every AV Club poster.

    , @James Richard
    @eah

    Dude, don't be a moron. Osama bin Laden TOLD us that he wanted us out of Mesopotamia and sacred Arabia and yet we insisted on doing so even going so far as to think we can subdue Bactria of all places. It doesn't fucking work. Bring the troops back home!

  7. Don’t laugh — it could happen. Really. I’m not kidding.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @eah

    That’s not gonna faze actual shitlords.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @Harold
    @eah

    'I'm sorry Dave I'm afraid I can't do that.'

    (I assume they'll be talking toilets)

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski

    , @oddsbodkins
    @eah

    What does the toilet do if you read Sailer while sitting on it?

    Replies: @El Dato, @James Richard

    , @Pericles
    @eah

    I'll make sure to visit my SWPL acquaintances.

  8. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    while the lynching of a suspected racist Nazi white supremacist was unfortunate, we must always remember the thousands of black men (not to mention Leo Frank) who were lynched by,

    Of course, many many more whites have been killed by blacks since the 60s than all the blacks lynched by whites in 100 yrs.

    This is all the result of failing to name the rise of Jewish supremacy.

    When Jewish power was becoming dominant, people should have noted the reality. US should have noted Jews as ruling elites. And America should have been critical of that power as it had been of Wasp power.

    Also, in spirit of fairness, US should have admitted to injustice of Nakba and the untenable continuation of the Occupation.

    But none of that was said. So, Power politics in the US became a big lie. Even though Jews had elite power, we had to continue with the myth of ‘white privilege’.

    And now, ethno-monopoly of the internet is shutting down tons of voices because white identity finally emerged as a voice and force.

    Nakba and Occupation were dress rehearsals for the Soros-ization of the West.

    In HOUSE OF GAMES, the woman thinks she will be favored because she’s a partner in crime. In fact, she was the trophy, the prize.

    Whites thought Jewish Power would favor them if they were partner-in-crime against Palestinians. Well, Israel/Palestine is nice as homeland but it’s still small potatoes as far as Jewish Power is concerned. The real trophy is total control of the West. Since Jews don’t have numbers, they opted for Diversity Colonization and ‘white guilt’.
    Face Palestinianization, goyim.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Anon

    "Also, in spirit of fairness, US should have admitted to injustice of Nakba and the untenable continuation of the Occupation."

    Why should Americans comment on something committed by Jews? Arabs haven't apologised for ethnically cleansing French people from Algeria.

    Just because you don't like Jews doesn't mean that Palestinians are our allies. Even if you mouth liberal platitudes about how mean the Israelis are, the Arabs won't stop agitating for our dispossesion and demographic replacement.

    Besides why does a Jewish-Saracen dispute in which we should have no stake in attract so much attention compared to say, the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus or the situation of Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija and Bosnia.

    I couldn't care less whether Israel was pushed to the sea or vice versa all the Palestinians pushed into Jordan and I don't see why you should either.

    Replies: @Anon, @James Richard

  9. Lynching started as the way Patriots dealt with Loyalists during the unpleasantness in the late 18th century. It looks as if it might return to its roots, then.

  10. OT, but Spanish police don’t seem to have a great track record when it comes to the bad guys. A few days ago they downplayed an explosion in Alcanar which now seems likely was a bomb factory to have been used in Barcelona. Now this

    “Between the attacks in Barcelona and Cambrils, and while police were hunting the driver of the van that ploughed through Las Ramblas, officials said a man had been killed at a shootout at a police roadblock in Sant Just Desvern, but said it was not connected to the terror attack.

    This version of events now seems to be in doubt.

    Catalan interior minister Joaquim Forn has said this morning that the man – whom police had identified as the owner of the car – did not die from gunshot wounds.

    La Vanguardia reports that the man in fact died of stab wounds and was not in the driver’s seat. It says police are now hunting the person who was behind the wheel – raising the possibility that this man was indeed involved in the attack in Las Ramblas.”

    • Replies: @Altai
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I have a feeling those guys were known and after the attack the Spanish security forces were like 'can we just kill them now?' and the government said yes and this guff about wearing fake suicide vests is a plant to make it kosher.

    Given they had no relationship to the truck attack and it happened so fast with everyone killed.

  11. What happens after the statues come down? I don’t think you need a road map to figure out the punditocracy will latch on to the idea the statues merely made concrete underlying crimethink. Therefore, crimethink must be removed from its pedestal. The underlying message of yet more “re-education” may be something like: “Cooperate, this could be made much worse.”

    So we’ll have another army of clueless White dudes, those complacement managerial and technical types so proud of their degrees from good schools, shuffling into “enhanced diversity” classes, completely unaware that a few more links have been added to the chains wrapped inside their heads. Too busy with soccer and NASCAR, I suppose. Whew!

  12. Will never happen. Not because they won’t kill one of us. They are constantly trying, and they have police protection. They will eventually succeed. Antifa Eric Clanton attempted to murder somebody with a U-lock in berkley. The reports from Charlottesville are that a lot of our guys had serious head injuries both gashes and concussions. Twitter guy “baked Alaska” was attacked with acid to the face and now has permanent vision loss. It will happen as long as the police continue to protect antifa.

    But they will never lynch anybody because nothing they do will ever be called a lynching. Anyone who suggests that what they are doing is lynching is a racist who doesn’t understand the loaded history of the term and blah blah blah.

    Maybe Trump will sack up and call it a lynching. His press conference was pretty encouraging.

    • Agree: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @Clark Westwood
    @27 year old


    But they will never lynch anybody because nothing they do will ever be called a lynching.
     
    Pretty much. "Workplace violence." "Robbery gone wrong." "Altercation turned violent."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  13. @eah
    Don't laugh -- it could happen. Really. I'm not kidding.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHf_gy4XYAAh8ES.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Harold, @oddsbodkins, @Pericles

    That’s not gonna faze actual shitlords.

    • LOL: Abe
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If it happens, it's best to happen when tensions are high, to force people to take a side.

    Replies: @Randal

  14. @27 year old
    Will never happen. Not because they won't kill one of us. They are constantly trying, and they have police protection. They will eventually succeed. Antifa Eric Clanton attempted to murder somebody with a U-lock in berkley. The reports from Charlottesville are that a lot of our guys had serious head injuries both gashes and concussions. Twitter guy "baked Alaska" was attacked with acid to the face and now has permanent vision loss. It will happen as long as the police continue to protect antifa.

    But they will never lynch anybody because nothing they do will ever be called a lynching. Anyone who suggests that what they are doing is lynching is a racist who doesn't understand the loaded history of the term and blah blah blah.

    Maybe Trump will sack up and call it a lynching. His press conference was pretty encouraging.

    Replies: @Clark Westwood

    But they will never lynch anybody because nothing they do will ever be called a lynching.

    Pretty much. “Workplace violence.” “Robbery gone wrong.” “Altercation turned violent.”

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Clark Westwood


    Pretty much. “Workplace violence.” “Robbery gone wrong.” “Altercation turned violent.”
     
    "He was in the wrong noose at the wrong time."
  15. Remember all the discussions we had about what was going to succeed WWT, pedophilia or polygamy?

    We were all wrong, it’s going to be statues. Interesting twist.

    • Replies: @AM
    @kihowi


    We were all wrong, it’s going to be statues. Interesting twist.
     
    Eh, this might be an intermission side show. It's not a heartening development but it's better than real people violence.
    , @Pericles
    @kihowi

    Statues as representatives of white culture, mind you. Perhaps they will burn racist old MIT's library next? Make room for colored voices or something.

    , @International Jew
    @kihowi

    WWS

  16. The US has been fake news since George Washington and the revolutionary war. Sucks how you got usurped by better liars, bigger maniacs. You were too easily impressed old boy and now you’ve messed it up for us all.

    • Replies: @Clark Westwood
    @Tacitus


    Sucks how you got usurped by better liars, bigger maniacs.
     
    You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

    *pounds the dirt in front of toppled Confederate statute*
  17. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @eah

    That’s not gonna faze actual shitlords.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    If it happens, it’s best to happen when tensions are high, to force people to take a side.

    • Replies: @Randal
    @Chrisnonymous


    Randal says:

    August 18, 2017 at 9:32 am GMT


    It will never happen, and when it does the loathsome despicable white racist hater will have fully deserved it anyway.


    • Troll: Chrisnonymous
     
    Was this an irony-recognition fail, or is it a second order trolling accusation, by which you mean to imply that my ironic reference to what Dreher at TAC coined, having recognised it as a characteristic feature of leftist discourse, as "the law of merited impossibility", is in some way trollish in itself?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  18. Wow do you guys know who enslaved who? These white tears are delicious but you’re delusions are worrisome. white men enjoy so many unearned privileges

    You people really need to talk to POC. They will tell you the truth about white men evil

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Tiny Duck


    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who?
     
    Yes. Black people enslaved other black people and then sold them to white people. Who then sold them to other white people. And hispanic people. And even a few black people.

    Oh, and there were black people who were enslaved by other black people and sold to arabs. And there were Arabs and Turks and Moors who enslaved white people. And Turks who bought their white slaves from other white people (who had enslaved them). Some Arabs still enslave people to this day.

    Replies: @theoldnorth, @Logan

    , @anonymous
    @Tiny Duck

    OMG!!! Real American Kal Penn (whose father founded the state of Pennsylvania, Penn State University, and Penn), has resigned from the crucial President's Commision on the Arts AND Humanity! Drumpf will be impeached for sure now!


    Speaking truth to power is never easy, Mr. President. But it is our role as commissioners on the PCAH to do so. Art is about inclusion. The Humanities include a vibrant free press. You have attacked both. You released a budget which eliminates arts and culture agencies. You have threatened nuclear war while gutting diplomacy funding. The Administration pulled out of the Paris agreement, filed an amicus brief undermining the Civil Rights Act, and attacked our brave trans service members. You have subverted equal protections, and are committed to banning Muslims and refugee women & children from our great country. This does not unify the nation we all love. We know the importance of open and free dialogue through our work in the cultural diplomacy realm, most recently with the first-ever US Government arts and culture delegation to Cuba, a country without the same First Amendment protections we enjoy here. Your words and actions push us all further away from the freedoms we are guaranteed.
     
    , @fish
    @Tiny Duck


    Wow....mind blown

    - Leonard Pitts
     
    , @William Badwhite
    @Tiny Duck

    "You people really need to talk to POC"

    I talked to one this morning. He asked me for money while I was waiting at an intersection. I said no.

    , @Irish Whiskey
    @Tiny Duck

    Please list these "unearned privileges" you speak of so that I can go claim them. Somehow I didn't get that memo from the Whitey In Chief telling me I had them.

  19. Anonymous [AKA "Observation"] says:

    I think maybe we should consider calling off future elections and just keep Trump as president indefinitely. These people have made it clear that they will do horrible things to us as soon as they have the power. In that kind of environment, the constitution and previous legal norms seem anachronistic. Trump could purge the military and use it to shut down Clinton’s treasonous Purple Colour Revolution before it even gets started, and it would be all the easier to accomplish now that the Alt-Left has set the stage with their aggressive banning of political dissidents from the internet. Fair’s Fair.

    Nationalize NBC (just go to Youtube and see how they are covering this Spain terrorist attack…by claiming that Trump is spreading falsehoods about Muslims and is, therefore, to blame for the whole thing – blatant lies), Nationalize CBS, the New York Times, etc. no platform Facebook and Twitter, remove all of their CEOs and replace them with our people:

    Ron Unz for NBC News Chairman

    Steve Sailer for New York Times General Manager (or whatever it’s called)

    Anatoly Karlin for CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent.

    Peter Brimelow for Telemundo President.

    In other news: a terrorist attack in Spain has occurred, and as you can guess it is already being spun so that that we don’t “blame all Muslims.” If the controlled media wanted you to blame all Muslims, they might have immediately used the phrase “Islamic Supremacist” as they did with “White Supremacist” for all of their news coverage regarding that Virginia rally, one in which antifa racists threw acid on a guy and blinded him.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Anonymous

    One of the first things come the revolution/restoration should be the appropriation of the New York Times and the Washington Post followed by their conversion to nationalist versions of Pravda and Izvestiya.

    Just think of all the liberals going "can't even".

    , @bored identity
    @Anonymous




    Peter Brimelow for Telemundo President

     

    bored identity may say you're dreamer, but you're not the only one...

    Brimelow's Telemundo should enlighten its audience by marathon-running of this dogmamentary depicting all the horrors average Mexican conquistador family had to go through while living under Anglo Reign of 1973. Chicago's Pilsen neighborhood. *


    https://youtu.be/Yieyac2B3Dg?t=22m4s

    * bored 20/20 noticing:

    1.The dogmamentary is authored by echo-chambering certified Susan Stechnij.
    2.Senor Navaro is a certain bracero turned fully-undocumented prole from Mexico.
    3.Chicago's Brighton Park plant that implanted wetbacking Senor Navaro produced America's Classic Wine better known as.... MD 20/20 **


    **
    https://youtu.be/Di1of3R-z4M?t=41s
  20. @22pp22
    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans. The foreign community in Paphos is mainly POM or Russian with the waitering done by Bulgarians.

    This morning I did something I would not normall do; I watched CNN. The content of the conversation was unhinged. It was deluded, paranoid and irrational.

    The "pundits" saw themselves as part of a great moral crusade whose victory would be assured only when the saboteurs and wreckers from America's imperfect past were finally swept away.

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    Replies: @Jake, @AM, @Hunsdon, @notanon, @Jim Christian, @JamesG, @TheJester

    It was American PC, American cultural Marxism, American Social Justice Warrior public speech on display.

    It has been beyond ‘real;;y spiteful’ for a long time. Now, it is inching toward street cleaning revolution – to bring peace, freedom of speech and the rights of all people.

  21. @eah
    Don't laugh -- it could happen. Really. I'm not kidding.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHf_gy4XYAAh8ES.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Harold, @oddsbodkins, @Pericles

    ‘I’m sorry Dave I’m afraid I can’t do that.’

    (I assume they’ll be talking toilets)

    • Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski
    @Harold

    Shouldn't that be: "Sorry Dave YOU can't do that"?

  22. Anonymous [AKA "Hshsh"] says:

    Was the murder of the Serbian immigrant near St. Louis a defacto lynching?

    • Replies: @27 year old
    @Anonymous


    Was the murder of the Serbian immigrant near St. Louis a defacto lynching?
     
    Beaten to death while the black mob was screaming "we got to kill all the White people."

    Nope not a lynching. It might look like it outwardly but a lynching requires the supporting power structure of White supremacy behind it. Therefore people of color cannot commit a lynching against a White person. Just like how people of color cannot be racist by definition.
    , @snorlax
    @Anonymous

    Bosniak actually, Zemir Begić. Muslim given name and Croat surname, so definitely not a Serb at any rate.

    Apologies for being pedantic.

    Replies: @David-E, @David In TN

  23. @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHd9-QCWAAExl94.jpg

    Replies: @Gunner, @James Richard

    That looks like how I imagine every AV Club poster.

  24. Imagine the shit storm when the SJW mob goes after a dude who has an SBR in his truck and they (the Left) gets cut down.

    That’ll be interesting.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Jack Hanson

    SBR?

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Harry Baldwin

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack Hanson

    Yep. These antifa morons have NO idea how heavily armed, and capable, Red America is. Someday it will be the last thing some of them realize.

    Replies: @Marty T

    , @Boethiuss
    @Jack Hanson



    Imagine the shit storm when the SJW mob goes after a dude who has an SBR in his truck and they (the Left) gets cut down.
     
    Yeah, an SBR really would have helped Randy Weaver when he got shot by the FBI from, I dunno, 300 yards away.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Paul Jolliffe

  25. @Chrisnonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If it happens, it's best to happen when tensions are high, to force people to take a side.

    Replies: @Randal

    Randal says:

    August 18, 2017 at 9:32 am GMT

    It will never happen, and when it does the loathsome despicable white racist hater will have fully deserved it anyway.

    • Troll: Chrisnonymous

    Was this an irony-recognition fail, or is it a second order trolling accusation, by which you mean to imply that my ironic reference to what Dreher at TAC coined, having recognised it as a characteristic feature of leftist discourse, as “the law of merited impossibility“, is in some way trollish in itself?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Randal

    Irony-recognition fail.

    Replies: @Randal

  26. I was going to go with negative 25 years, and bring up the Reginald Denny incident — in California, no less, so right up in Steve’s neck of the woods.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Reginald_Denny

    Slightly tangentially: Comparing the establishment press reaction to Charlottesville to the recent events in Spain is hugely revealing. The mask is pretty much totally off… and soon the gloves will be off as well.

    https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/18/now-thats-how-its-done/

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    @Ben Kurtz

    Great post comparing press reaction to Charlottesville vs. Barcelona, BK - thanks.

  27. I like this simple graphic which distills how white journalists see themselves after hitting the “publish” button on their latest Charleston essay :

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • LOL: fish, Abe
    • Replies: @Clark Westwood
    @elmer t. jones


    I like this simple graphic which distills how white journalists see themselves after hitting the “publish” button on their latest Charleston essay
     
    Exactly. Deep down, every good white liberal views himself as an aspiring Atticus Finch.
  28. 2020–first lynching of a BadWhite
    2027–lynching of whites becomes widespread
    2030–race war: the elites + GoodWhites+nonwhites versus BadWhites.

    2037 Scenario: most BadWhites have been placed in re-education camps where advanced intrusive biotech is used to control their thoughts…also these camps are the home of bio experiments wherein BadWhites are being transformed into nonwhites (camp motto: transracialism will set you free) …however these cruel experiements often go awry….creating mutant BadWhites, some of them with super powers…a band of mutant BadWhite youth, victims of elite transracial bio-experiments, escape the camps and go underground, joining the BadWhite Resistance, fighting a guerilla war against the Elites and their allies….these SuperHero Kids use their super powers to wage war against the Elite and their nonwhite armies….

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Hero Kid Comics


    2030–race war: the elites + GoodWhites+nonwhites versus BadWhites.
     
    Amazing that this was the HELTER SKELTER scenario predicted 40 years ago which its prognosticator may yet live to see played out.

    Most important social thinker of the 19th Century: Max Weber
    Most important social thinker of the 20th Century: Karl Marx
    Most important social thinker of the 21st Century: Charles Manson
  29. @Anon
    while the lynching of a suspected racist Nazi white supremacist was unfortunate, we must always remember the thousands of black men (not to mention Leo Frank) who were lynched by,

    Of course, many many more whites have been killed by blacks since the 60s than all the blacks lynched by whites in 100 yrs.

    This is all the result of failing to name the rise of Jewish supremacy.

    When Jewish power was becoming dominant, people should have noted the reality. US should have noted Jews as ruling elites. And America should have been critical of that power as it had been of Wasp power.

    Also, in spirit of fairness, US should have admitted to injustice of Nakba and the untenable continuation of the Occupation.

    But none of that was said. So, Power politics in the US became a big lie. Even though Jews had elite power, we had to continue with the myth of 'white privilege'.

    And now, ethno-monopoly of the internet is shutting down tons of voices because white identity finally emerged as a voice and force.

    Nakba and Occupation were dress rehearsals for the Soros-ization of the West.

    In HOUSE OF GAMES, the woman thinks she will be favored because she's a partner in crime. In fact, she was the trophy, the prize.

    Whites thought Jewish Power would favor them if they were partner-in-crime against Palestinians. Well, Israel/Palestine is nice as homeland but it's still small potatoes as far as Jewish Power is concerned. The real trophy is total control of the West. Since Jews don't have numbers, they opted for Diversity Colonization and 'white guilt'.
    Face Palestinianization, goyim.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    “Also, in spirit of fairness, US should have admitted to injustice of Nakba and the untenable continuation of the Occupation.”

    Why should Americans comment on something committed by Jews? Arabs haven’t apologised for ethnically cleansing French people from Algeria.

    Just because you don’t like Jews doesn’t mean that Palestinians are our allies. Even if you mouth liberal platitudes about how mean the Israelis are, the Arabs won’t stop agitating for our dispossesion and demographic replacement.

    Besides why does a Jewish-Saracen dispute in which we should have no stake in attract so much attention compared to say, the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus or the situation of Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija and Bosnia.

    I couldn’t care less whether Israel was pushed to the sea or vice versa all the Palestinians pushed into Jordan and I don’t see why you should either.

    • Agree: Nico
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Hyperborean

    Why should Americans comment on something committed by Jews? Arabs haven’t apologised for ethnically cleansing French people from Algeria.

    This is not about Jews or Arabs per se. You can find plenty of injustice all over the world.

    It is about POWER. Jews, not Arabs, have ethno-monopoly in media, finance, tech, etc. And AIPAC has control over Congress.

    Americans' pretending that the Ascent of Jewish Power need not be watched, criticized, and checked(or even noted as a reality) has led to this moment when Jewish Power can make stars go out in the internet. Imagine if Chinese Americans gained near-monopoly of media, finance, tech, etc, and then made us say "China is our greatest ally and we must put Chinese interests above our own." Suppose anyone who rejects this is said to be a Nanking Rape denier and destroyed professionally.

    Google didn't take down BLM or Antifa people even after the worst violence.
    But white patriots get attacked in Charlottesville in a melee caused by Antifa, and Google targets the patriots. Trump said violence was started by Antifa(true), but media reacts to his words in the way ADL reacts to someone who says the truth that Zionists are still creating new settlements and stealing more land in the Occupied Territories.

    Sound familiar? It's so much like the Israel-Palestinian Conflict where Palestinians are forever the bad guys even though they are being Nakba-ed.

    Mitt Romeny and McCain's reaction to events is very much this episode. Only one side is to blame.
    We live in an ethnogarchy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKOnaTmnE3o

    , @James Richard
    @Hyperborean

    Right on. Wogs start at the Channel.

  30. When it does, it will probably be some poor schmuck who has just trying to get from point A to point B, like Reginald Denny.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Arclight


    When it does, it will probably be some poor schmuck who has just trying to get from point A to point B, like Reginald Denny
     
    You mean a guy like Steve Utash? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/03/driver-assaulted-by-crowd-after-hitting-boy-clings-to-life/7285575/
  31. In this current paroxysm of Establishment-driven hate and fear, how long until a mob of good-thinkers lynches somebody?

    Depends on how you define “lynching.”

    If you mean storming past sheriff’s deputies and dragging a criminal suspect out of jail in the middle of town and hanging him from an oak tree in the town square while the everyone comes out to watch, then the answer is “Not likely.”

    If, however, you mean something like the targeted killing of a white alt-righter by a mob of antifa during street riots, I’d say yes, it’s extremely likely. If you mean the targeted killing of a white by a mob of blacks because he’s white, it’s already happening.

    If you mean the politically-motivated prosecution and trial of a suspect despite the lack of evidence (i.e., George Zimmerman) for the purpose of appeasing street mobs as a form of “government lynching” or “government vigilantism” (I know that’s an oxymoron) then the answer is that it’s already happened.

  32. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    Lynching looks like it takes some effort - capturing and subduing a person (w/o hurting him/her too much in the process) (who wants to lynch a coma patient?), getting the knot right, not to mention organizing the thing w/o attracting the attention of the authorities and getting shut down before you get started. (Lynchings, from my understanding, were supposed to be an event.) I doubt pink-haired trannies and BLM thug rats would ever try this.

    Now necklacing, OTOH ... I can see that happening sometime in the near future. Cheap, quick, low effort, maximum pain. Sounds like something Gen Z could get into.

    Replies: @AM, @fnn, @bored identity

    Sounds like something Gen Z could get into.

    Okay, I know you’re semi-serious, but my reply is kinda more serious.

    Generation Z is being raised by Generation X. Pray we’re doing a better job.

    Right now, it’s the millennials who display this odd devotion to feelings and equality, perhaps being the children of the end of the Boomers has something to do with it.

    White Generation Z would have voted Trump, close to 70% with the boys.

    Lynchings, from my understanding, were supposed to be an event.

    It’s me and like 2 other modern Catholics that agree with this point of the teaching, but if there is going to be an execution for crime, it must absolutely be public. If someone is to justly lose their lives for crime, then life is still so precious that the event needs to be used to discourage future crime and death. If a young future criminal hesitates or delays or does something altogether different from seeing the results of crime, then that’s the point.

    In other words, all these modern private executions of criminals are not the ideal, even if public executions can have an inappropriate carnival feel at times.

    Lynchings seem to appear in places where the police are unreliable or non-existent. The rural South appears to been very similar to the wild west in terms of policing levels. Except they had to deal with one of the more violent population groups on the planet. Not an excuse for no trial, but lynchings seem less monstrous when placed in context.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AM

    "White Generation Z would have voted Trump, close to 70% with the boys."

    Because Trump was anti-establishment, and Shillary represented the status quo. White Gen Z men were especially fascinated by Trump's machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary's mother hen approach. They may vote for Republicans in 2020, but from a moderate political perspective. Those same voters put their faith in Obama for 8 years. They felted duped, so they went to Trump. Considering the difficulties he is having running the nation, and the numerous investigations down the pike, those same voters will likely have remorse, and vote for a more conventional politician in 2020. If Trump runs in 2020, and wins, and in 2024 a similar candidate emerges and wins, then we can say definitively that the "Blue Wall will fly the Trump and his acolytes banner".

    Gen Z'ers in particular favor diversity and inclusion. Their calls for changes will lean moderate, not extreme right. Moreover, Gen Z'ers favor national health care, civil rights, and gay marriage. They probably will support immigration restrictions, but will resist mass expulsions of their non-white friends. When it comes to political correctness, yes, they are sick and tired of cultural appropriations and safe spaces, and will fight back in some way. But expecting a 180 turn to the Alt Right, with all the fixings, that is a pipe dream considering the divisions with this political and ideological movement.

    For those who believe that a "it takes a village" style propaganda assault will cleanse Gen Z'ers for their affinity of "Jewish inspired rot gut culture", Great luck with that endeavor. Besides, is it not the fundamental liberty of people to choose for themselves how they lead their lives?

    Replies: @AM

    , @cynthia curran
    @AM

    Actually, the younger baby boomers were to the right of gen x. It was the older baby boomers that voted heavily Dem and are the parents of some of the M. Gen X and M most liberal. Silent generation most conservative, being a younger baby boomer 60 years old, My parents were silent not world war two, Looked at surveys of voting patterns, Silent and younger baby boomers voted the most Republican and opposed illegal immigration the most,

  33. @22pp22
    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans. The foreign community in Paphos is mainly POM or Russian with the waitering done by Bulgarians.

    This morning I did something I would not normall do; I watched CNN. The content of the conversation was unhinged. It was deluded, paranoid and irrational.

    The "pundits" saw themselves as part of a great moral crusade whose victory would be assured only when the saboteurs and wreckers from America's imperfect past were finally swept away.

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    Replies: @Jake, @AM, @Hunsdon, @notanon, @Jim Christian, @JamesG, @TheJester

    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans.

    I wish I spoke English as my mother tongue, but as it is, I’m an American.

  34. @Anonymous
    I think maybe we should consider calling off future elections and just keep Trump as president indefinitely. These people have made it clear that they will do horrible things to us as soon as they have the power. In that kind of environment, the constitution and previous legal norms seem anachronistic. Trump could purge the military and use it to shut down Clinton's treasonous Purple Colour Revolution before it even gets started, and it would be all the easier to accomplish now that the Alt-Left has set the stage with their aggressive banning of political dissidents from the internet. Fair's Fair.

    Nationalize NBC (just go to Youtube and see how they are covering this Spain terrorist attack...by claiming that Trump is spreading falsehoods about Muslims and is, therefore, to blame for the whole thing - blatant lies), Nationalize CBS, the New York Times, etc. no platform Facebook and Twitter, remove all of their CEOs and replace them with our people:

    Ron Unz for NBC News Chairman

    Steve Sailer for New York Times General Manager (or whatever it's called)

    Anatoly Karlin for CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent.

    Peter Brimelow for Telemundo President.

    In other news: a terrorist attack in Spain has occurred, and as you can guess it is already being spun so that that we don't "blame all Muslims." If the controlled media wanted you to blame all Muslims, they might have immediately used the phrase "Islamic Supremacist" as they did with "White Supremacist" for all of their news coverage regarding that Virginia rally, one in which antifa racists threw acid on a guy and blinded him.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @bored identity

    One of the first things come the revolution/restoration should be the appropriation of the New York Times and the Washington Post followed by their conversion to nationalist versions of Pravda and Izvestiya.

    Just think of all the liberals going “can’t even”.

  35. @kihowi
    Remember all the discussions we had about what was going to succeed WWT, pedophilia or polygamy?

    We were all wrong, it's going to be statues. Interesting twist.

    Replies: @AM, @Pericles, @International Jew

    We were all wrong, it’s going to be statues. Interesting twist.

    Eh, this might be an intermission side show. It’s not a heartening development but it’s better than real people violence.

  36. Lynched? You mean like this?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk

    So, is the fist in the BLM poster supposed to symbolize the black power salute or, rather, the fact that BLM is a homosexual-led movement?

  37. @Randal
    It will never happen, and when it does the loathsome despicable white racist hater will have fully deserved it anyway.

    Replies: @bomag

    It will never happen…

    There have been a multitude of killings announced as repayment for past wrong-thinking sins (Omar Thornton et al); the Good Thinkers haven’t denounced them for that content.

    And it happens in a multitude of smaller ways via lost job opportunities and the lessening of other life prospects by the usual subtle and overt hate YT campaign we’ve got going on.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @bomag

    My view as well.

    "Lynching" is a crude ancient small town/village/rural response for realigning the community involving a ritual act of violence.

    Our system of law renders that particular expression extrajudicial and therefore unacceptable.

    The means today by which people play out their primitive urges are far more sophisticated, globalist, technological...and exponentially cruder/more brutal.

    Plus one of the left/globo agendas is to make EVERYTHING extrajudicial by redefining or obliterating the rule of law entirely.

    But somehow there is this idea that if it doesn't involve tree-rope-corpse, it's not really an extrajudicial response for realigning the community involving acts of violence.

    I'll have a separate comment on all this.

  38. @Anonymous
    Was the murder of the Serbian immigrant near St. Louis a defacto lynching?

    Replies: @27 year old, @snorlax

    Was the murder of the Serbian immigrant near St. Louis a defacto lynching?

    Beaten to death while the black mob was screaming “we got to kill all the White people.”

    Nope not a lynching. It might look like it outwardly but a lynching requires the supporting power structure of White supremacy behind it. Therefore people of color cannot commit a lynching against a White person. Just like how people of color cannot be racist by definition.

  39. @Tacitus
    The US has been fake news since George Washington and the revolutionary war. Sucks how you got usurped by better liars, bigger maniacs. You were too easily impressed old boy and now you've messed it up for us all.

    Replies: @Clark Westwood

    Sucks how you got usurped by better liars, bigger maniacs.

    You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

    *pounds the dirt in front of toppled Confederate statute*

  40. Ok I’m dumb, but what is POM? Do you mean ‘pom’ as in Aussie/Kiwi slang for English people? Or something else?

  41. If lynching means a mob chasing the victim down then killing him, this is a pretty frequent occurrence among the ‘youth’ in London, most (though not all) of the victims being other ‘youths’.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/feb/12/ukcrime.london

    PC Keith Blakelock is probably the most high-profile lynchee of recent years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Keith_Blakelock

    “Surrounded by a mob of 30–50 people, he received over 40 injuries inflicted by machetes or similar”

  42. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but Spanish police don't seem to have a great track record when it comes to the bad guys. A few days ago they downplayed an explosion in Alcanar which now seems likely was a bomb factory to have been used in Barcelona. Now this

    "Between the attacks in Barcelona and Cambrils, and while police were hunting the driver of the van that ploughed through Las Ramblas, officials said a man had been killed at a shootout at a police roadblock in Sant Just Desvern, but said it was not connected to the terror attack.

    This version of events now seems to be in doubt.


    Catalan interior minister Joaquim Forn has said this morning that the man – whom police had identified as the owner of the car – did not die from gunshot wounds.

    La Vanguardia reports that the man in fact died of stab wounds and was not in the driver’s seat. It says police are now hunting the person who was behind the wheel – raising the possibility that this man was indeed involved in the attack in Las Ramblas."
     

    Replies: @Altai

    I have a feeling those guys were known and after the attack the Spanish security forces were like ‘can we just kill them now?’ and the government said yes and this guff about wearing fake suicide vests is a plant to make it kosher.

    Given they had no relationship to the truck attack and it happened so fast with everyone killed.

  43. It’s probably happened already.

  44. The current mass moral hysteria demands a scapegoat. Someone whose bloody sacrifice appeases the thumotic desires of everybody who feels the black cloud of injustice upon everything. (Aristotle would recommend that they all go see a Greek tragedy and feel a bit better about the world.) The mass ire at Trump’s comments, which weren’t precisely pious enough, demonstrating the widespread need to attack somebody for the sin of not being completely and properly outraged at Racist Evil.

    Maybe Trump should have saved his Syria strike for a moment like this.

    These situations normally necessitate that somebody somewhere die, get exiled, or get seriously humiliated. Preferably die. We can see this in the reactions of GoDaddy, Google, etc., who said that they had exiled all the Bad People from their platforms.

    Unfortunately, Antifa needs a good war to direct all of their hate and murderous desires onto.

  45. @Clark Westwood
    @27 year old


    But they will never lynch anybody because nothing they do will ever be called a lynching.
     
    Pretty much. "Workplace violence." "Robbery gone wrong." "Altercation turned violent."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Pretty much. “Workplace violence.” “Robbery gone wrong.” “Altercation turned violent.”

    “He was in the wrong noose at the wrong time.”

  46. @eah
    Don't laugh -- it could happen. Really. I'm not kidding.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHf_gy4XYAAh8ES.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Harold, @oddsbodkins, @Pericles

    What does the toilet do if you read Sailer while sitting on it?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @oddsbodkins

    It will do a full Cronenberg on you.

    The last thing you will see will be a blue checkmark appearing over your dwelling place.

    , @James Richard
    @oddsbodkins

    If you are reading Mein Kampf it will suck you into the macerator while informing the authorities to arrest your entire family out unto first cousins.

  47. @Tiny Duck
    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who? These white tears are delicious but you're delusions are worrisome. white men enjoy so many unearned privileges

    You people really need to talk to POC. They will tell you the truth about white men evil

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous, @fish, @William Badwhite, @Irish Whiskey

    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who?

    Yes. Black people enslaved other black people and then sold them to white people. Who then sold them to other white people. And hispanic people. And even a few black people.

    Oh, and there were black people who were enslaved by other black people and sold to arabs. And there were Arabs and Turks and Moors who enslaved white people. And Turks who bought their white slaves from other white people (who had enslaved them). Some Arabs still enslave people to this day.

    • Replies: @theoldnorth
    @Mr. Anon



    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who?
     
    Yes. Black people enslaved other black people and then sold them to white people. Who then sold them to other white people. And hispanic people. And even a few black people.
     
    This kind of tell is why I’m pretty convinced Tiny Duck is a SJW parodist (in addition to obvious troll). Like a less funny Godfrey Elfwick (R.I.P.). But it is hard to be sure.
    , @Logan
    @Mr. Anon

    If we go back a dozen or two generations, we're pretty much all descended from both slaves and slaveowners. Especially if you're a little bit loose on the definition of slave.

    Somehow a very nearly universal human practice has become stereotyped as being committed only by evil white Americans against noble black Africans.

  48. Once, I was telling a story during the telling of whichk I said that I had been “running like the Klan was after me” which prompted one of those, “YOU’RE NOT BLACK” rejoinders. I pointed out I was both Catholic and Republican, and so yes, could very well have been part of the Klan’s death toll once upon a time. Never really finished the story, but I think I blew some minds (in a good way).

  49. A black woman did symbolically lynch the statue of a Confederate soldier in Durham, NC, when she slipped a noose around its neck and a mob pulled down the statue. However, in the immediate future, de-lynching seems the more likely path the Alt-Left movement will take, as the offensive surname “Lynch” gets removed from public buildings, starting in Portland, Oregon:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4779000/Lynch-removed-names-3-Oregon-schools.html

  50. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    Lynching looks like it takes some effort - capturing and subduing a person (w/o hurting him/her too much in the process) (who wants to lynch a coma patient?), getting the knot right, not to mention organizing the thing w/o attracting the attention of the authorities and getting shut down before you get started. (Lynchings, from my understanding, were supposed to be an event.) I doubt pink-haired trannies and BLM thug rats would ever try this.

    Now necklacing, OTOH ... I can see that happening sometime in the near future. Cheap, quick, low effort, maximum pain. Sounds like something Gen Z could get into.

    Replies: @AM, @fnn, @bored identity

    A lot of different definitions of “lynching” seem to be in use. It used to at least be popularly understood as killing by done by a more or less large group, non-clandestinely, under color of law. The Leo Frank killing was like that, the killing of Emmett Till quite the opposite.

    • Replies: @Logan
    @fnn

    Quite right. It was a semi-public event as a rule. I don't think "under cover of law" is quite right. It was more like community-sanctioned. Which if you squint just right, in a democracy is kinda-sorta just a legal shortcut.

    You are entirely right about the Till case. I do get tired of hearing it called a lynching, when it was a private murder by outraged relatives of the offended woman, who took considerable care to keep what they were doing private.

  51. @George
    Jon Stewart Chides Spike Lee: ‘Sending a Lynch Mob to Anybody’s Address Is a Bad Mistake’

    http://www.thewrap.com/jon-stewart-chides-spike-lee-sending-lynch-mob-anybodys-address-bad-mistake-36671/

    Replies: @res

    And look at how it turned out: http://thejasminebrand.com/2014/08/08/exclusive-spike-lee-wins-legal-victory-george-zimmerman-tweet-lawsuit/

    And justice for all. At least we know now why they have Lady Justice blindfolded in courtrooms–it is clearly not for objectivity. They just don’t want to subject her to watching the acts committed in her name.

    • Replies: @larry lurker
    @res

    According to the article they had already accepted a $10,000 settlement from Lee. Whoops.

  52. The last black man lynched in America was Clarence Thomas. Democrats still have not apologized.

  53. Just a small correction: Zemir Begic was a Bosnian Muslim.

  54. John Lynch played football the way President Trump plays politics: NO FEAR.

    John Lynch played football at 6 feet 2 inches tall and weighing 220 pounds. Lynch was a defensive secondary strong safety in the NFL. President Trump, when he was younger, was about that size. President Trump, when I saw him in 2015, looked like a retired linebacker from the National Football League. President Trump was said to be good athlete when he was younger.

    How about a word for Ronnie Lott? Ronnie Lott was under 6 feet tall and he weighed less than 200 pounds, but he hit almost as hard as John Lynch. Ronnie Lott was a great football player.

  55. The father of Robert E. Lee himself – Henry Lee III – was the victim of beating and torture by a mob who broke into the prison where he and his fellow Federalists, who opposed the War of 1812, were being kept. Henry Lee had come to the aid of a friend who was a Federalist newspaper editor.

    Lee never recovered from his injuries and died six years later, when his son Robert was eleven years old.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lee_III

  56. @Jack Hanson
    Imagine the shit storm when the SJW mob goes after a dude who has an SBR in his truck and they (the Left) gets cut down.

    That'll be interesting.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Jim Don Bob, @Boethiuss

    SBR?

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Short
    Barreled
    Rifle

    (a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16", which requires costly and annoying paperwork in states where legal--not all states allow them at all--so pretty much limited to Very Enthusiastic Gun Owners.)

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Short Barreled Rifle, as abbreviated by the cognoscenti. The minimum barrel length for a standard rifle is 16", but with approved paperwork and the purchase of a government tax stamp you can own one with a shorter, handier barrel.

  57. @eah
    Don't laugh -- it could happen. Really. I'm not kidding.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHf_gy4XYAAh8ES.jpg

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Harold, @oddsbodkins, @Pericles

    I’ll make sure to visit my SWPL acquaintances.

  58. @kihowi
    Remember all the discussions we had about what was going to succeed WWT, pedophilia or polygamy?

    We were all wrong, it's going to be statues. Interesting twist.

    Replies: @AM, @Pericles, @International Jew

    Statues as representatives of white culture, mind you. Perhaps they will burn racist old MIT’s library next? Make room for colored voices or something.

  59. @Jack Hanson
    Imagine the shit storm when the SJW mob goes after a dude who has an SBR in his truck and they (the Left) gets cut down.

    That'll be interesting.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Jim Don Bob, @Boethiuss

    Yep. These antifa morons have NO idea how heavily armed, and capable, Red America is. Someday it will be the last thing some of them realize.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    @Jim Don Bob

    Yeah? When's that gonna happen? Cause they're close to killing us already.

  60. anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Tiny Duck
    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who? These white tears are delicious but you're delusions are worrisome. white men enjoy so many unearned privileges

    You people really need to talk to POC. They will tell you the truth about white men evil

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous, @fish, @William Badwhite, @Irish Whiskey

    OMG!!! Real American Kal Penn (whose father founded the state of Pennsylvania, Penn State University, and Penn), has resigned from the crucial President’s Commision on the Arts AND Humanity! Drumpf will be impeached for sure now!

    Speaking truth to power is never easy, Mr. President. But it is our role as commissioners on the PCAH to do so. Art is about inclusion. The Humanities include a vibrant free press. You have attacked both. You released a budget which eliminates arts and culture agencies. You have threatened nuclear war while gutting diplomacy funding. The Administration pulled out of the Paris agreement, filed an amicus brief undermining the Civil Rights Act, and attacked our brave trans service members. You have subverted equal protections, and are committed to banning Muslims and refugee women & children from our great country. This does not unify the nation we all love. We know the importance of open and free dialogue through our work in the cultural diplomacy realm, most recently with the first-ever US Government arts and culture delegation to Cuba, a country without the same First Amendment protections we enjoy here. Your words and actions push us all further away from the freedoms we are guaranteed.

  61. @elmer t. jones
    I like this simple graphic which distills how white journalists see themselves after hitting the "publish" button on their latest Charleston essay :

    https://employmentgame.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/thisisushug.gif

    Replies: @Clark Westwood

    I like this simple graphic which distills how white journalists see themselves after hitting the “publish” button on their latest Charleston essay

    Exactly. Deep down, every good white liberal views himself as an aspiring Atticus Finch.

  62. @Buzz Mohawk
    Lynched? You mean like this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JiblC-gjXk

    Replies: @Anonymous

    So, is the fist in the BLM poster supposed to symbolize the black power salute or, rather, the fact that BLM is a homosexual-led movement?

  63. @Mr. Anon
    @Tiny Duck


    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who?
     
    Yes. Black people enslaved other black people and then sold them to white people. Who then sold them to other white people. And hispanic people. And even a few black people.

    Oh, and there were black people who were enslaved by other black people and sold to arabs. And there were Arabs and Turks and Moors who enslaved white people. And Turks who bought their white slaves from other white people (who had enslaved them). Some Arabs still enslave people to this day.

    Replies: @theoldnorth, @Logan

    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who?

    Yes. Black people enslaved other black people and then sold them to white people. Who then sold them to other white people. And hispanic people. And even a few black people.

    This kind of tell is why I’m pretty convinced Tiny Duck is a SJW parodist (in addition to obvious troll). Like a less funny Godfrey Elfwick (R.I.P.). But it is hard to be sure.

  64. @Tiny Duck
    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who? These white tears are delicious but you're delusions are worrisome. white men enjoy so many unearned privileges

    You people really need to talk to POC. They will tell you the truth about white men evil

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous, @fish, @William Badwhite, @Irish Whiskey

    Wow….mind blown

    – Leonard Pitts

  65. It would never be referred to as a lynching. At worst it would be classified as a reverse-lynching.

  66. Loretta Lynch should consider changing her name, given all that negative publicity about lynching.

  67. @AM
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia


    Sounds like something Gen Z could get into.
     
    Okay, I know you're semi-serious, but my reply is kinda more serious.

    Generation Z is being raised by Generation X. Pray we're doing a better job.

    Right now, it's the millennials who display this odd devotion to feelings and equality, perhaps being the children of the end of the Boomers has something to do with it.

    White Generation Z would have voted Trump, close to 70% with the boys.


    Lynchings, from my understanding, were supposed to be an event.
     
    It's me and like 2 other modern Catholics that agree with this point of the teaching, but if there is going to be an execution for crime, it must absolutely be public. If someone is to justly lose their lives for crime, then life is still so precious that the event needs to be used to discourage future crime and death. If a young future criminal hesitates or delays or does something altogether different from seeing the results of crime, then that's the point.

    In other words, all these modern private executions of criminals are not the ideal, even if public executions can have an inappropriate carnival feel at times.

    Lynchings seem to appear in places where the police are unreliable or non-existent. The rural South appears to been very similar to the wild west in terms of policing levels. Except they had to deal with one of the more violent population groups on the planet. Not an excuse for no trial, but lynchings seem less monstrous when placed in context.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @cynthia curran

    “White Generation Z would have voted Trump, close to 70% with the boys.”

    Because Trump was anti-establishment, and Shillary represented the status quo. White Gen Z men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach. They may vote for Republicans in 2020, but from a moderate political perspective. Those same voters put their faith in Obama for 8 years. They felted duped, so they went to Trump. Considering the difficulties he is having running the nation, and the numerous investigations down the pike, those same voters will likely have remorse, and vote for a more conventional politician in 2020. If Trump runs in 2020, and wins, and in 2024 a similar candidate emerges and wins, then we can say definitively that the “Blue Wall will fly the Trump and his acolytes banner”.

    Gen Z’ers in particular favor diversity and inclusion. Their calls for changes will lean moderate, not extreme right. Moreover, Gen Z’ers favor national health care, civil rights, and gay marriage. They probably will support immigration restrictions, but will resist mass expulsions of their non-white friends. When it comes to political correctness, yes, they are sick and tired of cultural appropriations and safe spaces, and will fight back in some way. But expecting a 180 turn to the Alt Right, with all the fixings, that is a pipe dream considering the divisions with this political and ideological movement.

    For those who believe that a “it takes a village” style propaganda assault will cleanse Gen Z’ers for their affinity of “Jewish inspired rot gut culture”, Great luck with that endeavor. Besides, is it not the fundamental liberty of people to choose for themselves how they lead their lives?

    • Replies: @AM
    @Corvinus


    White Gen Z men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach.
     
    The white Gen Z "man" in my life is 17. The Trump/Clinton election was the first for the very oldest Gen Zs. Everyone in my son's reasonably good, majority white high school would have voted Trump, as far as he knew.

    The energy within the Alt-right is almost from all Gen Z and very late millennial (boundaries blur), something you can get at from the humor. I routinely met 17/19/20/21 olds on Twitter. Don't miss Twitter, but the boys were worth the talking to.

    The rest of your post refers to millennials who are in their mid-late 20's-to early 30's and are have old enough to have voted for Obama at least once. Analysis wise, it would be helpful to get the terms right.

    Besides, is it not the fundamental liberty of people to choose for themselves how they lead their lives?
     
    If this statement means some sort of Boomer garbled gook like "choose their religion", no. If you know the truth or something of the truth, you pass it on to your kids the best you can. To do otherwise shows an ability to indifferently navel gaze that belongs to the generational hall of fame. (Boomers for the win!)

    When I pass on the truth as best as I can to my kids, it is with full awareness I cannot force them to act a certain way, beyond a certain age. But "Choosing for yourself", aka following where your flawed emotions bring you, can lead to objective disaster that occasionally cannot be undone.

    Yes, my kids do have the fundamental liberty to screw up the lives God gave them, because God gave that to them, along with life. My job as steward is to point out, before big mistakes happen, that God's rules mean a great life in the long run, even if they struggle on one or more issues.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  68. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    Lynching looks like it takes some effort - capturing and subduing a person (w/o hurting him/her too much in the process) (who wants to lynch a coma patient?), getting the knot right, not to mention organizing the thing w/o attracting the attention of the authorities and getting shut down before you get started. (Lynchings, from my understanding, were supposed to be an event.) I doubt pink-haired trannies and BLM thug rats would ever try this.

    Now necklacing, OTOH ... I can see that happening sometime in the near future. Cheap, quick, low effort, maximum pain. Sounds like something Gen Z could get into.

    Replies: @AM, @fnn, @bored identity

    bored identity agrees;

    BLMANTIFA’s Slow Tiki-Torching of some unfortunate MAGA-hat-wearing-and-after-hours-wrong-turn-to-Englewood-taking Whitey is just waiting to happen.

    And if you’re Whitey, the best way to avoid lynching is not to wear a classic white nationalist uniform – khaki shorts and white polo shirts , that is:

  69. @22pp22
    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans. The foreign community in Paphos is mainly POM or Russian with the waitering done by Bulgarians.

    This morning I did something I would not normall do; I watched CNN. The content of the conversation was unhinged. It was deluded, paranoid and irrational.

    The "pundits" saw themselves as part of a great moral crusade whose victory would be assured only when the saboteurs and wreckers from America's imperfect past were finally swept away.

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    Replies: @Jake, @AM, @Hunsdon, @notanon, @Jim Christian, @JamesG, @TheJester

    It has the potential to get kinetic really fast.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Hunsdon

    Which reminds us that the election of Trump has led to the bottom falling out on the AR-15 market. There are tremendous bargains on AR-15 rifle components and complete rifles. For example, you can get a complete GI profile 20" barrel upper from Del-Ton for $245 right now. Sportsman's Guide has Anderson lower receivers for $37.

    The vast majority of you DON'T have an AR. What are you waiting for? The market will never be better.

    Live in a Communist State?

    Mold your own AR lower receiver:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBhrEcPZmts

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/how-to-build-a-lower-receiver/

    Need a Glock-magazine compatible pistol?

    Make it yourself at home:

    http://www.polymer80.com/

    They even have DIY AR frames.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @James Richard

  70. Besides, is it not the fundamental liberty of people to choose for themselves how they lead their lives?

    There was a time.

  71. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I would say that the political group that can actually push issues that are popular will win the next round.

    The 1990’s Bill Clinton would have been all over this one.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

    After all, the Clintons enraged Republicans by stealing their welfare reform issue. And followed up by enraging them by trying to adopt a Republican think tank health reform.

    And losing wars isn’t that popular.

    And as far as the anti-white opioid crisis (which I’m not buying*) the Democrats are lining up to attack large drug companies while trial lawyers sharpen their knives for a big payout analogous to the tobacco windfall.

    Meanwhile, Trump went after Amazon for destroying retail jobs.

    This is the big one, since the big tech companies want to align themselves with Democrats but aren’t a natural fit. They are too rich and Google and Facebook are monopoly like in some respects. Amazon arguably uses unfair trade practices or is simply too big.

    Trump is a very unpopular guy that was elected because he took popular positions.

    Trump has noticed that we are losing the ‘war’ in Afghanistan.

    “At one point the president directed his frustration at Mattis, saying Trump had given the military authority months ago to make advances in Afghanistan and yet the U.S. was continuing to lose ground, the officials said.

    “We aren’t winning,” Trump complained, according to these officials. “We are losing.”

    And he actually used the word ‘losing’. Trump won’t quit publicly blaming the military.

    John McCain said the same thing. ” John McCain warned Wednesday that the United States is losing the war in Afghanistan.” This was in 2009.

    Syria isn’t in the news, so I assume that Assad is winning. Trump will claim that our enemy is ISIS and that they are losing. So therefore we won. The solution in Afghanistan is to rename the Taliban and start with a clean slate. Trump’s analogy of the generals to expensive NY consultants is astute. They need to redefine winning and losing.

    Regardless. The Republicans are too conflicted to jump on to popular issues. They reflexively lit up at the chance to re-ignite the Cold War with Russia. They still don’t seem to understand the popularity of enforcing immigration laws.

  72. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Hyperborean
    @Anon

    "Also, in spirit of fairness, US should have admitted to injustice of Nakba and the untenable continuation of the Occupation."

    Why should Americans comment on something committed by Jews? Arabs haven't apologised for ethnically cleansing French people from Algeria.

    Just because you don't like Jews doesn't mean that Palestinians are our allies. Even if you mouth liberal platitudes about how mean the Israelis are, the Arabs won't stop agitating for our dispossesion and demographic replacement.

    Besides why does a Jewish-Saracen dispute in which we should have no stake in attract so much attention compared to say, the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus or the situation of Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija and Bosnia.

    I couldn't care less whether Israel was pushed to the sea or vice versa all the Palestinians pushed into Jordan and I don't see why you should either.

    Replies: @Anon, @James Richard

    Why should Americans comment on something committed by Jews? Arabs haven’t apologised for ethnically cleansing French people from Algeria.

    This is not about Jews or Arabs per se. You can find plenty of injustice all over the world.

    It is about POWER. Jews, not Arabs, have ethno-monopoly in media, finance, tech, etc. And AIPAC has control over Congress.

    Americans’ pretending that the Ascent of Jewish Power need not be watched, criticized, and checked(or even noted as a reality) has led to this moment when Jewish Power can make stars go out in the internet. Imagine if Chinese Americans gained near-monopoly of media, finance, tech, etc, and then made us say “China is our greatest ally and we must put Chinese interests above our own.” Suppose anyone who rejects this is said to be a Nanking Rape denier and destroyed professionally.

    Google didn’t take down BLM or Antifa people even after the worst violence.
    But white patriots get attacked in Charlottesville in a melee caused by Antifa, and Google targets the patriots. Trump said violence was started by Antifa(true), but media reacts to his words in the way ADL reacts to someone who says the truth that Zionists are still creating new settlements and stealing more land in the Occupied Territories.

    Sound familiar? It’s so much like the Israel-Palestinian Conflict where Palestinians are forever the bad guys even though they are being Nakba-ed.

    Mitt Romeny and McCain’s reaction to events is very much this episode. Only one side is to blame.
    We live in an ethnogarchy.

  73. @Corvinus
    @AM

    "White Generation Z would have voted Trump, close to 70% with the boys."

    Because Trump was anti-establishment, and Shillary represented the status quo. White Gen Z men were especially fascinated by Trump's machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary's mother hen approach. They may vote for Republicans in 2020, but from a moderate political perspective. Those same voters put their faith in Obama for 8 years. They felted duped, so they went to Trump. Considering the difficulties he is having running the nation, and the numerous investigations down the pike, those same voters will likely have remorse, and vote for a more conventional politician in 2020. If Trump runs in 2020, and wins, and in 2024 a similar candidate emerges and wins, then we can say definitively that the "Blue Wall will fly the Trump and his acolytes banner".

    Gen Z'ers in particular favor diversity and inclusion. Their calls for changes will lean moderate, not extreme right. Moreover, Gen Z'ers favor national health care, civil rights, and gay marriage. They probably will support immigration restrictions, but will resist mass expulsions of their non-white friends. When it comes to political correctness, yes, they are sick and tired of cultural appropriations and safe spaces, and will fight back in some way. But expecting a 180 turn to the Alt Right, with all the fixings, that is a pipe dream considering the divisions with this political and ideological movement.

    For those who believe that a "it takes a village" style propaganda assault will cleanse Gen Z'ers for their affinity of "Jewish inspired rot gut culture", Great luck with that endeavor. Besides, is it not the fundamental liberty of people to choose for themselves how they lead their lives?

    Replies: @AM

    White Gen Z men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach.

    The white Gen Z “man” in my life is 17. The Trump/Clinton election was the first for the very oldest Gen Zs. Everyone in my son’s reasonably good, majority white high school would have voted Trump, as far as he knew.

    The energy within the Alt-right is almost from all Gen Z and very late millennial (boundaries blur), something you can get at from the humor. I routinely met 17/19/20/21 olds on Twitter. Don’t miss Twitter, but the boys were worth the talking to.

    The rest of your post refers to millennials who are in their mid-late 20’s-to early 30’s and are have old enough to have voted for Obama at least once. Analysis wise, it would be helpful to get the terms right.

    Besides, is it not the fundamental liberty of people to choose for themselves how they lead their lives?

    If this statement means some sort of Boomer garbled gook like “choose their religion”, no. If you know the truth or something of the truth, you pass it on to your kids the best you can. To do otherwise shows an ability to indifferently navel gaze that belongs to the generational hall of fame. (Boomers for the win!)

    When I pass on the truth as best as I can to my kids, it is with full awareness I cannot force them to act a certain way, beyond a certain age. But “Choosing for yourself”, aka following where your flawed emotions bring you, can lead to objective disaster that occasionally cannot be undone.

    Yes, my kids do have the fundamental liberty to screw up the lives God gave them, because God gave that to them, along with life. My job as steward is to point out, before big mistakes happen, that God’s rules mean a great life in the long run, even if they struggle on one or more issues.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AM

    "Everyone in my son’s reasonably good, majority white high school would have voted Trump, as far as he knew."

    Right, because the young men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach. The young ladies were pissed at the D establishment for Hillary's shenanigans, especially in not giving Bernie Sanders a fair shake.

    "The energy within the Alt-right is almost from all Gen Z and very late millennial (boundaries blur), something you can get at from the humor. I routinely met 17/19/20/21 olds on Twitter. Don’t miss Twitter, but the boys were worth the talking to."

    The political leanings of teenagers fluctuates. Gen Z'ers were drawn to the bravado of Trump. Will they be there in 4 years if he runs for reelection? If Trump wins again, then the Gen Z'ers have a decided skin in the game. Until then, it is speculation regarding their love affair with Trump.

    "The rest of your post refers to millennials who are in their mid-late 20′s-to early 30′s and are have old enough to have voted for Obama at least once. Analysis wise, it would be helpful to get the terms right."

    Exactly. Get things right.

    http://opportunitylives.com/how-the-next-generation-will-change-politics

    "Gen Z’s preferred financial policies seem to be reliably conservative. But the rest of their beliefs defy categorization in the current partisan environment. According to Grace and Seemiller’s research, 40 percent of Gen Z’ers classify themselves as socially liberal — with over 80 percent supporting marriage equality. Many are projecting that they’ll be very libertarian in their views,” Grace said. She summarized their approach as, “‘Please don’t intervene in my life, but protect people and make sure everyone’s taken care of.’ 'Generation Z Goes to College' says that nearly 75 percent of the up-and-coming generation is very concerned about limitations on personal freedom. They don’t want government involvement in gun ownership, access to abortion, euthanasia or marriage."

    Fiscal conservatives. Social liberals. [Gasp] Generation Z are moderates!

    "If you know the truth or something of the truth, you pass it on to your kids the best you can."

    Yes, what you believe to be truth.

    "When I pass on the truth as best as I can to my kids, it is with full awareness I cannot force them to act a certain way, beyond a certain age. But “Choosing for yourself”, aka following where your flawed emotions bring you, can lead to objective disaster that occasionally cannot be undone."

    Assuming that those emotions are flawed.

    "My job as steward is to point out, before big mistakes happen, that God’s rules mean a great life in the long run, even if they struggle on one or more issues."

    Great. Just realize a number of people view religion different than yourself, and will guide their children accordingly. They will pass on the truth as best as they can to their kids.

    Replies: @AM

  74. Abe says: • Website
    @Hero Kid Comics
    2020--first lynching of a BadWhite
    2027--lynching of whites becomes widespread
    2030--race war: the elites + GoodWhites+nonwhites versus BadWhites.

    2037 Scenario: most BadWhites have been placed in re-education camps where advanced intrusive biotech is used to control their thoughts...also these camps are the home of bio experiments wherein BadWhites are being transformed into nonwhites (camp motto: transracialism will set you free) ...however these cruel experiements often go awry....creating mutant BadWhites, some of them with super powers...a band of mutant BadWhite youth, victims of elite transracial bio-experiments, escape the camps and go underground, joining the BadWhite Resistance, fighting a guerilla war against the Elites and their allies....these SuperHero Kids use their super powers to wage war against the Elite and their nonwhite armies....

    Replies: @Abe

    2030–race war: the elites + GoodWhites+nonwhites versus BadWhites.

    Amazing that this was the HELTER SKELTER scenario predicted 40 years ago which its prognosticator may yet live to see played out.

    Most important social thinker of the 19th Century: Max Weber
    Most important social thinker of the 20th Century: Karl Marx
    Most important social thinker of the 21st Century: Charles Manson

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  75. In this current paroxysm of Establishment-driven hate and fear, how long until a mob of good-thinkers lynches somebody?

    Steve, are you really unaware of the work Colin Flaherty has been doing documenting exactly this???

  76. This gives a good picture of what the alt right folks go through if they’ve been identified.

    In this case a regular professor was misidentified so we get a clear picture of what happens to someone who is correctly identified.

    “So You’ve Been Mistaken as a White Nationalist
    Biomedical engineer Kyle Quinn fends off a frenzied Internet mob after being wrongly identified as a Charlottesville protester.”

    http://mobile.the-scientist.com/article/50120/so-you-ve-been-mistaken-as-a-white-nationalist/

  77. @Arclight
    When it does, it will probably be some poor schmuck who has just trying to get from point A to point B, like Reginald Denny.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    When it does, it will probably be some poor schmuck who has just trying to get from point A to point B, like Reginald Denny

    You mean a guy like Steve Utash? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/03/driver-assaulted-by-crowd-after-hitting-boy-clings-to-life/7285575/

  78. @res
    @George

    And look at how it turned out: http://thejasminebrand.com/2014/08/08/exclusive-spike-lee-wins-legal-victory-george-zimmerman-tweet-lawsuit/

    And justice for all. At least we know now why they have Lady Justice blindfolded in courtrooms--it is clearly not for objectivity. They just don't want to subject her to watching the acts committed in her name.

    Replies: @larry lurker

    According to the article they had already accepted a $10,000 settlement from Lee. Whoops.

  79. @Ben Kurtz
    I was going to go with negative 25 years, and bring up the Reginald Denny incident -- in California, no less, so right up in Steve's neck of the woods.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Reginald_Denny

    Slightly tangentially: Comparing the establishment press reaction to Charlottesville to the recent events in Spain is hugely revealing. The mask is pretty much totally off... and soon the gloves will be off as well.

    https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/18/now-thats-how-its-done/

    Replies: @Vinteuil

    Great post comparing press reaction to Charlottesville vs. Barcelona, BK – thanks.

  80. Not funny.

    As Tucker Carlson has pointed out, the Left will not stop with statues, after those, they will come for the Bill of Rights and the Declaration and outside of Trump there is no one willing to stand up to them(phonies like Kobach are silent). Once that is accomplished, they will come after us, the same way Mugabe went after whites.

    As it stands a civil war is all but assured now.

    On a side note Bannon quit. Trump doesn’t have a real nationalist on his staff now., Just globalists and Neo-Con scum like McMaster and Kelly.

  81. @kihowi
    Remember all the discussions we had about what was going to succeed WWT, pedophilia or polygamy?

    We were all wrong, it's going to be statues. Interesting twist.

    Replies: @AM, @Pericles, @International Jew

    WWS

  82. Next move: maidan square style snipers killing both sides at a ‘demonstration’. MSM will spin Kkk and nazis (oh my) and all respectable leaders in both parties and the world will insist trump must resign as he has lost all control.

  83. Antifa says by any means necessary. So, they might well kill one of their own and blame the white man for it. People don’t understand they are criminally insane. Any means necessary includes all the means that would destroy whatever ends they pretend to be trying to achieve.

    • Replies: @Jake
    @August Hurtel

    Yes, they are insane - made mad by bleeding hearts and a sense of guilt for their ancestors surviving a harsh world. All Leftists are as destructive as you note.

  84. @Anonymous
    Was the murder of the Serbian immigrant near St. Louis a defacto lynching?

    Replies: @27 year old, @snorlax

    Bosniak actually, Zemir Begić. Muslim given name and Croat surname, so definitely not a Serb at any rate.

    Apologies for being pedantic.

    • Replies: @David-E
    @snorlax


    Bosniak actually, Zemir Begić. Muslim given name and Croat surname, so definitely not a Serb at any rate.
     
    In fact, the surname Begić is Muslim too, from the word beg (bey in Ottoman Turkish):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bey

    Of course, some Croats and Serbs have some variation of this surname, but that doesn't change its origin.
    , @David In TN
    @snorlax

    Nearly three years later, the Zemir Begic murder case is still (slowly) winding its way through the legal system. Three of the four defendants have yet to be tried. The fourth (and youngest) pleaded to 2nd Degree murder but may be paroled or put on probation at age 21.

  85. The bad news is that this is turning into a race war.

    The good news is that all the white people getting lynched so far have been statues. There also hasn’t been any undocumented shopping yet. Of course that could all change at any moment. Brothas are not known for their restraint once a riot gets going. Left would like this to be Trump’s Katrina.

    Last night in Phila they spray painted “Black Power” on the statue of 1970s mayor Frank Rizzo (who was a sort of local Trump type character – tough ex-cop who did not mind literally (and figuratively) bashing heads of bad guys of any color).

    Here he is in a famous photo with a nightstick in his cummerbund after leaving a black tie event to head directly to a riot:

    So not only are we going backward from Robert E. Lee to past “racists” like Jefferson, but we are also going to move forward to more modern dead white racists as well.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    @Jack D

    Undocumented shopping and Marshmallow burning without a permit are much more common when stocks have been in a downturn for a couple years.

    We're still bumping the ceiling WRT that, so expect the bonfires to be relatively small.

    For now.

    Should stocks fall hard and interest rates rise, I figure it's pretty certain that the cities will burn. Unlike in the 1960's, however, I strongly suspect that such activities will not be excused. I think the bulk of Americans have seen that movie once too often, and that once the worm turns enough, putting down such insurrections (and the people perpetrating them) will be cheered.

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    The bad news is that this is turning into a race war.
     
    On the plus side, if the white vote were ever in doubt vis-a-vis the GOP, this kerfuffle has now edged whites a little further away from the Democrats. Will the GOP hit 70% of the white vote in 2018? We can only hope. And if so, a good many Republican pols will get the message.
    , @James Richard
    @Jack D


    Brothas are not known for their restraint once a riot gets going.
     
    And white folks are hardly famous for restraint when re-establishing law and order.
  86. • Replies: @AM
    @eah

    The question is: why can't we get the mobs to "lynch" some modern art? I'd join one tearing down random scrap metal heap in park. Those old statues were the only half decent public art left.

  87. For some reason I couldn’t post this in the new Buchanan article, so I’ll try here (it’s on topic):

    “In this Second American Civil War, whose side are you on?”

    I always appreciate Buchanan’s question, they’re helpful in thinking an issue through. Notice the kindling words absent from his writing: fascism, antifa, et al. Those are plentiful in other places, and I find that curious. How can the US be speaking about fascism, when it has never experienced the raised-arm salute on its soil? And related to the century-and-a-half old Civil War?!?

    In Europe, the process of nation pacification after Civil War was carried by unification through-reeducation. The recipe was damnatio memoriae. It is hard to imagine statues in Italy for the Bourbon/pontificial generals. Or for the Vendéens in post-revolutionary France. The more recent defeated fascist in Germany suffered the same fate. In Spain, fascist Franco did a good damnatio memoriae of the defeated leftist ‘masonic cabal’, now being reversed.

    The US provided a valuable example by remaining federalist, and letting each side honor their dead. Unity with richness of cultures, so to speak. I wonder whether the bellicose Westward expansion helped foster this “sense of unity”, or whether it was something else, like the common Christian faith.

    Anyway, I’d like to read up on Lee, can anyone point me in the direction of a good biography?

    And a link to info about an LA agency that was recently recruiting actors for Charlotte. The site’s italian, but photo’s in english: http://www.maurizioblondet.it/abbattere-statue-uguale-ai-roghi-libri/

    What a civilized way to violent protest! In Mexico it’s organized word of mouth. (And I hope I can post on the third try!!)

  88. Last night in Phila they spray painted “Black Power” on the statue of 1970s mayor Frank Rizzo

    Did you see the video that the local Fox affiliate has of the two black men doing the painting? They did it right in front of the cameras, with no face coverings or any attempt to hide their identities or what they were doing. And AFAIK, they have not yet been arrested. Amazing.

  89. @Harold
    @eah

    'I'm sorry Dave I'm afraid I can't do that.'

    (I assume they'll be talking toilets)

    Replies: @Bies Podkrakowski

    Shouldn’t that be: “Sorry Dave YOU can’t do that”?

  90. @Anonymous
    I think maybe we should consider calling off future elections and just keep Trump as president indefinitely. These people have made it clear that they will do horrible things to us as soon as they have the power. In that kind of environment, the constitution and previous legal norms seem anachronistic. Trump could purge the military and use it to shut down Clinton's treasonous Purple Colour Revolution before it even gets started, and it would be all the easier to accomplish now that the Alt-Left has set the stage with their aggressive banning of political dissidents from the internet. Fair's Fair.

    Nationalize NBC (just go to Youtube and see how they are covering this Spain terrorist attack...by claiming that Trump is spreading falsehoods about Muslims and is, therefore, to blame for the whole thing - blatant lies), Nationalize CBS, the New York Times, etc. no platform Facebook and Twitter, remove all of their CEOs and replace them with our people:

    Ron Unz for NBC News Chairman

    Steve Sailer for New York Times General Manager (or whatever it's called)

    Anatoly Karlin for CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent.

    Peter Brimelow for Telemundo President.

    In other news: a terrorist attack in Spain has occurred, and as you can guess it is already being spun so that that we don't "blame all Muslims." If the controlled media wanted you to blame all Muslims, they might have immediately used the phrase "Islamic Supremacist" as they did with "White Supremacist" for all of their news coverage regarding that Virginia rally, one in which antifa racists threw acid on a guy and blinded him.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @bored identity

    Peter Brimelow for Telemundo President

    bored identity may say you’re dreamer, but you’re not the only one…

    Brimelow’s Telemundo should enlighten its audience by marathon-running of this dogmamentary depicting all the horrors average Mexican conquistador family had to go through while living under Anglo Reign of 1973. Chicago’s Pilsen neighborhood. *

    * bored 20/20 noticing:

    1.The dogmamentary is authored by echo-chambering certified Susan Stechnij.
    2.Senor Navaro is a certain bracero turned fully-undocumented prole from Mexico.
    3.Chicago’s Brighton Park plant that implanted wetbacking Senor Navaro produced America’s Classic Wine better known as…. MD 20/20 **

    **

  91. almost certainly already happened in a white minority area via BLM or equivalent but put down to crime

    but yes, SJWs will do it soon – and 90% chance it’ll be some good looking white kid who isn’t involved in politics at all

  92. I don’t how long it will take for someone to get lynched — and I agree with the comment above that it will likely be a Reginald Denny-type event (innocent person in the wrong place) — but frankly, my money’s on a mass shooting first.

    If people are not already carrying weapons to these sorts of events in the first place (and they are) sooner rather than later, one of the carrying will find himself isolated and facing a mob intent on violence. At that point, he will open fire — and he will do so in genuine self-defense (whether or not a jury agrees is another matter).

    Frankly, I’m surprised no-one has been shot already. It seems to me that’s more likely to happen before any lynching.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    @celt darnell

    Your points translate to:

    Don't go to political rallies.
    If you go to political rallies, go armed.
    If you go armed to political rallies, prepare to have HELL rain down on you for you will be damned if you do (shoot), damned if you don't (because they'll beat you, take your gun and probably kill you with it, and they'll WALK.)

    So in other words, if you value your life, don't go to political events.

    And if you value your life, realize that it's the only one you have and the only person who will save you if you are unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time is YOU.

    http://www.nationalaffairs.com/public_interest/detail/a-nation-of-cowards

  93. @snorlax
    @Anonymous

    Bosniak actually, Zemir Begić. Muslim given name and Croat surname, so definitely not a Serb at any rate.

    Apologies for being pedantic.

    Replies: @David-E, @David In TN

    Bosniak actually, Zemir Begić. Muslim given name and Croat surname, so definitely not a Serb at any rate.

    In fact, the surname Begić is Muslim too, from the word beg (bey in Ottoman Turkish):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bey

    Of course, some Croats and Serbs have some variation of this surname, but that doesn’t change its origin.

  94. @oddsbodkins
    @eah

    What does the toilet do if you read Sailer while sitting on it?

    Replies: @El Dato, @James Richard

    It will do a full Cronenberg on you.

    The last thing you will see will be a blue checkmark appearing over your dwelling place.

  95. @Jack Hanson
    Imagine the shit storm when the SJW mob goes after a dude who has an SBR in his truck and they (the Left) gets cut down.

    That'll be interesting.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Jim Don Bob, @Boethiuss

    Imagine the shit storm when the SJW mob goes after a dude who has an SBR in his truck and they (the Left) gets cut down.

    Yeah, an SBR really would have helped Randy Weaver when he got shot by the FBI from, I dunno, 300 yards away.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    @Boethiuss

    Boethiuss...did you miss the "MOB" in your block quote?

    You all are missing the point.

    If some white guy (it WILL be a guy, a dead white girl is still difficult to sell the proles) is killed, whether it's true or not the MSM will paint him as Hitler Resurrected.

    If some white guy, accosted by a mob of bat-wielding people wearing face masks, whips out a pistol and mag-dumps strategically, killing five, nine, even eighteen of his attackers, all of their photos will be on the front page for two months, they'll each posthumously be knighted and given the Congressional Medal of Honor, any surviving family members will appear on the Late Night Talk circuit, they'll be enrolled in the initial stages of sainthood and their faces will be placed on US currency.

    While the guy who was defending himself is railroaded six ways from Sunday, getting the Zimmerman and Duke Lacrosse Team treatment combined, and will be tried as many times as it takes to get a guilty verdict, even if they have to stack the jury exclusively with black felons.

    In fact, the MEDIA clearly would PREFER dead Antifa. They (and their political masters) figure if they run Leftist lunatics at armed men often enough, sooner or later they'll get all the Poster Children they wanted.

    , @Paul Jolliffe
    @Boethiuss

    A minor correction:

    The FBI didn't kill Randy Weaver, although they tried

    The FBI did shoot and kill Weaver's wife, Vicki, while she was holding their infant daughter in her arms.

    That Lon Horiuchi, the FBI "sniper", fired on Kevin Harris, but missed and killed Vicki Weaver.

    Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris were acquitted of all charges (except one minor one - failure to appear in court) and Harris sued the Feds to the tune of $338,000.

    In short, the FBI was criminally incompetent, yet no one at the FBI even saw a demotion, let alone a criminal conviction.

    Lon Horiuchi's name remains unknown to almost all Americans, because media was silent on his and the FBI's awful performance.

    The 25th anniversary of the federal government's murderous actions against innocent white Americans at Ruby Ridge is next week.

    This is an incredibly timely I-Steve topic, if ever there was one.

  96. @22pp22
    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans. The foreign community in Paphos is mainly POM or Russian with the waitering done by Bulgarians.

    This morning I did something I would not normall do; I watched CNN. The content of the conversation was unhinged. It was deluded, paranoid and irrational.

    The "pundits" saw themselves as part of a great moral crusade whose victory would be assured only when the saboteurs and wreckers from America's imperfect past were finally swept away.

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    Replies: @Jake, @AM, @Hunsdon, @notanon, @Jim Christian, @JamesG, @TheJester

    2000 years of evolved paranoia – the swastika flag at Cville has triggered them into full on bolshevik mode

    this was always going to happen eventually – better it happens now than 20 years time

  97. @bomag
    @Randal


    It will never happen...
     
    There have been a multitude of killings announced as repayment for past wrong-thinking sins (Omar Thornton et al); the Good Thinkers haven't denounced them for that content.

    And it happens in a multitude of smaller ways via lost job opportunities and the lessening of other life prospects by the usual subtle and overt hate YT campaign we've got going on.

    Replies: @Olorin

    My view as well.

    “Lynching” is a crude ancient small town/village/rural response for realigning the community involving a ritual act of violence.

    Our system of law renders that particular expression extrajudicial and therefore unacceptable.

    The means today by which people play out their primitive urges are far more sophisticated, globalist, technological…and exponentially cruder/more brutal.

    Plus one of the left/globo agendas is to make EVERYTHING extrajudicial by redefining or obliterating the rule of law entirely.

    But somehow there is this idea that if it doesn’t involve tree-rope-corpse, it’s not really an extrajudicial response for realigning the community involving acts of violence.

    I’ll have a separate comment on all this.

    • Agree: Kevin C.
  98. @snorlax
    @Anonymous

    Bosniak actually, Zemir Begić. Muslim given name and Croat surname, so definitely not a Serb at any rate.

    Apologies for being pedantic.

    Replies: @David-E, @David In TN

    Nearly three years later, the Zemir Begic murder case is still (slowly) winding its way through the legal system. Three of the four defendants have yet to be tried. The fourth (and youngest) pleaded to 2nd Degree murder but may be paroled or put on probation at age 21.

  99. @22pp22
    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans. The foreign community in Paphos is mainly POM or Russian with the waitering done by Bulgarians.

    This morning I did something I would not normall do; I watched CNN. The content of the conversation was unhinged. It was deluded, paranoid and irrational.

    The "pundits" saw themselves as part of a great moral crusade whose victory would be assured only when the saboteurs and wreckers from America's imperfect past were finally swept away.

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    Replies: @Jake, @AM, @Hunsdon, @notanon, @Jim Christian, @JamesG, @TheJester

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    The Saker, Fred, Steve, all of em, their common theme is, “this doesn’t end well”. And so it isn’t. Or hasn’t. Or won’t.

  100. @22pp22
    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans. The foreign community in Paphos is mainly POM or Russian with the waitering done by Bulgarians.

    This morning I did something I would not normall do; I watched CNN. The content of the conversation was unhinged. It was deluded, paranoid and irrational.

    The "pundits" saw themselves as part of a great moral crusade whose victory would be assured only when the saboteurs and wreckers from America's imperfect past were finally swept away.

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    Replies: @Jake, @AM, @Hunsdon, @notanon, @Jim Christian, @JamesG, @TheJester

    CNN is sick.

    Today all other channels were reporting the terror attacks in Spain and in Finland.

    I checked CNN and they were projectile-vomiting “Charlottesville.”

  101. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Jack Hanson

    SBR?

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Harry Baldwin

    Short
    Barreled
    Rifle

    (a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16″, which requires costly and annoying paperwork in states where legal–not all states allow them at all–so pretty much limited to Very Enthusiastic Gun Owners.)

  102. @Boethiuss
    @Jack Hanson



    Imagine the shit storm when the SJW mob goes after a dude who has an SBR in his truck and they (the Left) gets cut down.
     
    Yeah, an SBR really would have helped Randy Weaver when he got shot by the FBI from, I dunno, 300 yards away.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Paul Jolliffe

    Boethiuss…did you miss the “MOB” in your block quote?

    You all are missing the point.

    If some white guy (it WILL be a guy, a dead white girl is still difficult to sell the proles) is killed, whether it’s true or not the MSM will paint him as Hitler Resurrected.

    If some white guy, accosted by a mob of bat-wielding people wearing face masks, whips out a pistol and mag-dumps strategically, killing five, nine, even eighteen of his attackers, all of their photos will be on the front page for two months, they’ll each posthumously be knighted and given the Congressional Medal of Honor, any surviving family members will appear on the Late Night Talk circuit, they’ll be enrolled in the initial stages of sainthood and their faces will be placed on US currency.

    While the guy who was defending himself is railroaded six ways from Sunday, getting the Zimmerman and Duke Lacrosse Team treatment combined, and will be tried as many times as it takes to get a guilty verdict, even if they have to stack the jury exclusively with black felons.

    In fact, the MEDIA clearly would PREFER dead Antifa. They (and their political masters) figure if they run Leftist lunatics at armed men often enough, sooner or later they’ll get all the Poster Children they wanted.

  103. @Greg Bacon
    Last week, it was Trump-Russia collusion 24/7 now it's Trump colluding with Nazis? They need to make up their minds and settle on one propaganda point.

    The same people who want to blow up Mt. Rushmore will be the ones supplying the rope.

    Maybe replace those iconic figures with ones of Joe Stalin, Chairman Mao and Lenin?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-17/lets-blow-mount-rushmore-says-vice

    Replies: @Jack ryan, @Jack ryan

    It s “Whatevergate”

  104. Most normies abhor the Confederacy. It represented slavery and secession. The Confederacy sought to DESTROY our nation. The norms are about what those monuments represent FROM THE PAST. They do not care that monuments serve as a historical record, nor do they care about the history of such individuals the monuments pay tribute to. Yes, Robert E. Lee opposed slavery. Yes, he had significant reservations about personally abandoning the Union. But what matters most is that he supported the Confederacy.

    What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here. The Confederacy monuments and the Washington/Jefferson/Lincoln monuments are on a separate moral plane as viewed by normies. In the end, the monuments are used as political pawns by the right and the left, not as historical pieces. I say move the monuments to private property. But in the meantime, anyone who rips them down now and in the future is defacing public property and ought to be arrested.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    @Corvinus

    Over 60 percent want monuments to stand.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @Corvinus


    What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here.
     
    Tell the normies I said lotsa luck with their nuance.

    Let us know how it works out.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Jake
    @Corvinus

    The best case I can make for you is that you are a dreamy optimist ignorant of revolutionary history. An contemporary American version of the nice Frenchmen of 1789 who were certain that it al was about a truly bad monarchy and a bunch or truly bad bishops and hereditary nobles, and once they were dealt with - fairly and humanely - then normality would reign with goodness blooming for all.

    But then the Revolution keep taking new turns and killing more people, destroying more culture because it was the culture of the EVIL past.

    The Leftist freaks of America are no less insane and no less amoral then were the Revolutionaries of France.

    Replies: @James Richard, @Corvinus

    , @celt darnell
    @Corvinus

    Well that certainly explains the urge to downgrade/remove Andrew Jackson from the $20.

    You know, the guy who said "The Union must and shall be preserved."?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  105. Any classics scholars out there? Is there any good way of speculating whether White guys will soon—if we don’t already— occupy a position roughly equal to that held by the subject peoples of the Roman Empire? I’m thinking very amateurishly of a future where a bunch of us White guys are kept on for our legacy technical and managerial abilities, while memories of Euro-American achievement and goodness fade into the background. (I don’t know enough about the classical period to understand what the relations were between the Romans and the more talented of their subject peoples, such as the Greeks.)

  106. @celt darnell
    I don't how long it will take for someone to get lynched -- and I agree with the comment above that it will likely be a Reginald Denny-type event (innocent person in the wrong place) -- but frankly, my money's on a mass shooting first.

    If people are not already carrying weapons to these sorts of events in the first place (and they are) sooner rather than later, one of the carrying will find himself isolated and facing a mob intent on violence. At that point, he will open fire -- and he will do so in genuine self-defense (whether or not a jury agrees is another matter).

    Frankly, I'm surprised no-one has been shot already. It seems to me that's more likely to happen before any lynching.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets

    Your points translate to:

    Don’t go to political rallies.
    If you go to political rallies, go armed.
    If you go armed to political rallies, prepare to have HELL rain down on you for you will be damned if you do (shoot), damned if you don’t (because they’ll beat you, take your gun and probably kill you with it, and they’ll WALK.)

    So in other words, if you value your life, don’t go to political events.

    And if you value your life, realize that it’s the only one you have and the only person who will save you if you are unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time is YOU.

    http://www.nationalaffairs.com/public_interest/detail/a-nation-of-cowards

  107. @Jack D
    The bad news is that this is turning into a race war.

    The good news is that all the white people getting lynched so far have been statues. There also hasn't been any undocumented shopping yet. Of course that could all change at any moment. Brothas are not known for their restraint once a riot gets going. Left would like this to be Trump's Katrina.

    Last night in Phila they spray painted "Black Power" on the statue of 1970s mayor Frank Rizzo (who was a sort of local Trump type character - tough ex-cop who did not mind literally (and figuratively) bashing heads of bad guys of any color).

    Here he is in a famous photo with a nightstick in his cummerbund after leaving a black tie event to head directly to a riot:

    http://www.internationalist.org/rizzo69.jpg


    So not only are we going backward from Robert E. Lee to past "racists" like Jefferson, but we are also going to move forward to more modern dead white racists as well.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Johann Ricke, @James Richard

    Undocumented shopping and Marshmallow burning without a permit are much more common when stocks have been in a downturn for a couple years.

    We’re still bumping the ceiling WRT that, so expect the bonfires to be relatively small.

    For now.

    Should stocks fall hard and interest rates rise, I figure it’s pretty certain that the cities will burn. Unlike in the 1960’s, however, I strongly suspect that such activities will not be excused. I think the bulk of Americans have seen that movie once too often, and that once the worm turns enough, putting down such insurrections (and the people perpetrating them) will be cheered.

  108. @Greg Bacon
    Last week, it was Trump-Russia collusion 24/7 now it's Trump colluding with Nazis? They need to make up their minds and settle on one propaganda point.

    The same people who want to blow up Mt. Rushmore will be the ones supplying the rope.

    Maybe replace those iconic figures with ones of Joe Stalin, Chairman Mao and Lenin?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-17/lets-blow-mount-rushmore-says-vice

    Replies: @Jack ryan, @Jack ryan

    It s “Whatevergate”

  109. @AM
    @Corvinus


    White Gen Z men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach.
     
    The white Gen Z "man" in my life is 17. The Trump/Clinton election was the first for the very oldest Gen Zs. Everyone in my son's reasonably good, majority white high school would have voted Trump, as far as he knew.

    The energy within the Alt-right is almost from all Gen Z and very late millennial (boundaries blur), something you can get at from the humor. I routinely met 17/19/20/21 olds on Twitter. Don't miss Twitter, but the boys were worth the talking to.

    The rest of your post refers to millennials who are in their mid-late 20's-to early 30's and are have old enough to have voted for Obama at least once. Analysis wise, it would be helpful to get the terms right.

    Besides, is it not the fundamental liberty of people to choose for themselves how they lead their lives?
     
    If this statement means some sort of Boomer garbled gook like "choose their religion", no. If you know the truth or something of the truth, you pass it on to your kids the best you can. To do otherwise shows an ability to indifferently navel gaze that belongs to the generational hall of fame. (Boomers for the win!)

    When I pass on the truth as best as I can to my kids, it is with full awareness I cannot force them to act a certain way, beyond a certain age. But "Choosing for yourself", aka following where your flawed emotions bring you, can lead to objective disaster that occasionally cannot be undone.

    Yes, my kids do have the fundamental liberty to screw up the lives God gave them, because God gave that to them, along with life. My job as steward is to point out, before big mistakes happen, that God's rules mean a great life in the long run, even if they struggle on one or more issues.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Everyone in my son’s reasonably good, majority white high school would have voted Trump, as far as he knew.”

    Right, because the young men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach. The young ladies were pissed at the D establishment for Hillary’s shenanigans, especially in not giving Bernie Sanders a fair shake.

    “The energy within the Alt-right is almost from all Gen Z and very late millennial (boundaries blur), something you can get at from the humor. I routinely met 17/19/20/21 olds on Twitter. Don’t miss Twitter, but the boys were worth the talking to.”

    The political leanings of teenagers fluctuates. Gen Z’ers were drawn to the bravado of Trump. Will they be there in 4 years if he runs for reelection? If Trump wins again, then the Gen Z’ers have a decided skin in the game. Until then, it is speculation regarding their love affair with Trump.

    “The rest of your post refers to millennials who are in their mid-late 20′s-to early 30′s and are have old enough to have voted for Obama at least once. Analysis wise, it would be helpful to get the terms right.”

    Exactly. Get things right.

    http://opportunitylives.com/how-the-next-generation-will-change-politics

    “Gen Z’s preferred financial policies seem to be reliably conservative. But the rest of their beliefs defy categorization in the current partisan environment. According to Grace and Seemiller’s research, 40 percent of Gen Z’ers classify themselves as socially liberal — with over 80 percent supporting marriage equality. Many are projecting that they’ll be very libertarian in their views,” Grace said. She summarized their approach as, “‘Please don’t intervene in my life, but protect people and make sure everyone’s taken care of.’ ‘Generation Z Goes to College’ says that nearly 75 percent of the up-and-coming generation is very concerned about limitations on personal freedom. They don’t want government involvement in gun ownership, access to abortion, euthanasia or marriage.”

    Fiscal conservatives. Social liberals. [Gasp] Generation Z are moderates!

    “If you know the truth or something of the truth, you pass it on to your kids the best you can.”

    Yes, what you believe to be truth.

    “When I pass on the truth as best as I can to my kids, it is with full awareness I cannot force them to act a certain way, beyond a certain age. But “Choosing for yourself”, aka following where your flawed emotions bring you, can lead to objective disaster that occasionally cannot be undone.”

    Assuming that those emotions are flawed.

    “My job as steward is to point out, before big mistakes happen, that God’s rules mean a great life in the long run, even if they struggle on one or more issues.”

    Great. Just realize a number of people view religion different than yourself, and will guide their children accordingly. They will pass on the truth as best as they can to their kids.

    • Replies: @AM
    @Corvinus


    Right, because the young men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach.
     
    My son is fascinated by your look into his mind. I find that in working with teenagers, achieving just the patronizing tone always is the best bet.

    The political leanings of teenagers fluctuates. Gen Z’ers were drawn to the bravado of Trump.
     
    I see you've doubled down on the patronizing. Excellent! Like I said it's a surefire way to convince any teenager that you're a old fogey not worth listening to got some amazing insight on living on planet earth.

    Fiscal conservatives. Social liberals. [Gasp] Generation Z are moderates!
     
    They will not stay social liberals if this whole shooting match collapses. My son is already deeply concerned. At any rate, in just being barely 20, they are exactly the age of social liberalism although they are very young to be have been turned off by socialism. Something to think about. The alt-right crowd, although small in number, I met was easily farther right than I was social issues. At age 19. That's another very interesting development.

    Yes, what you believe to be truth.
     
    Ah, this is why you've got your hippie, dippie Jesus. The truth exists and it's our job to find it. We will do it imperfectly, we will have to apologize, we will make mistakes. But objective truth exists. Our inability to understand truth perfectly does not make it subjective.

    Assuming that those emotions are flawed.
     
    Wasn't it you who just said "truth is what I believe?" or least tried to imply it? Your emotions are flawed because we are all fallen. Emotions are important energy and information, but they should never exclude the use of reason or be used to avoid sacrifice. They can never be wholly trusted and be verified against other sources of information.

    Great. Just realize a number of people view religion different than yourself, and will guide their children accordingly. They will pass on the truth as best as they can to their kids.
     
    You've really got this patronizing tone down. I am impressed. Chance are high I'm much more tolerant on the point than you are, precisely because I believe in our fallen nature. What I think is profoundly unserious laziness and total BS is "let the kids choose their own religion". It just says Mom and Dad are mostly atheists who think religion is some sort cute play toy.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  110. @Jack D
    The bad news is that this is turning into a race war.

    The good news is that all the white people getting lynched so far have been statues. There also hasn't been any undocumented shopping yet. Of course that could all change at any moment. Brothas are not known for their restraint once a riot gets going. Left would like this to be Trump's Katrina.

    Last night in Phila they spray painted "Black Power" on the statue of 1970s mayor Frank Rizzo (who was a sort of local Trump type character - tough ex-cop who did not mind literally (and figuratively) bashing heads of bad guys of any color).

    Here he is in a famous photo with a nightstick in his cummerbund after leaving a black tie event to head directly to a riot:

    http://www.internationalist.org/rizzo69.jpg


    So not only are we going backward from Robert E. Lee to past "racists" like Jefferson, but we are also going to move forward to more modern dead white racists as well.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Johann Ricke, @James Richard

    The bad news is that this is turning into a race war.

    On the plus side, if the white vote were ever in doubt vis-a-vis the GOP, this kerfuffle has now edged whites a little further away from the Democrats. Will the GOP hit 70% of the white vote in 2018? We can only hope. And if so, a good many Republican pols will get the message.

  111. @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack Hanson

    Yep. These antifa morons have NO idea how heavily armed, and capable, Red America is. Someday it will be the last thing some of them realize.

    Replies: @Marty T

    Yeah? When’s that gonna happen? Cause they’re close to killing us already.

  112. @Corvinus
    Most normies abhor the Confederacy. It represented slavery and secession. The Confederacy sought to DESTROY our nation. The norms are about what those monuments represent FROM THE PAST. They do not care that monuments serve as a historical record, nor do they care about the history of such individuals the monuments pay tribute to. Yes, Robert E. Lee opposed slavery. Yes, he had significant reservations about personally abandoning the Union. But what matters most is that he supported the Confederacy.

    What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here. The Confederacy monuments and the Washington/Jefferson/Lincoln monuments are on a separate moral plane as viewed by normies. In the end, the monuments are used as political pawns by the right and the left, not as historical pieces. I say move the monuments to private property. But in the meantime, anyone who rips them down now and in the future is defacing public property and ought to be arrested.

    Replies: @Marty T, @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Jake, @celt darnell

    Over 60 percent want monuments to stand.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Marty T

    "Over 60 percent want monuments to stand."

    Out of 1,125 adults surveyed. Next time provide a link. See how easy it is.

    https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=3933461-NPR-PBS-NewsHour-Marist-Poll-Aug-17-2017

    Interesting. Thank you for the numbers here. Perhaps those normies, including blacks, who believed the monuments should remain should find ways to voice their opinion.

  113. @Tiny Duck
    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who? These white tears are delicious but you're delusions are worrisome. white men enjoy so many unearned privileges

    You people really need to talk to POC. They will tell you the truth about white men evil

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous, @fish, @William Badwhite, @Irish Whiskey

    “You people really need to talk to POC”

    I talked to one this morning. He asked me for money while I was waiting at an intersection. I said no.

  114. @22pp22
    I speak English as my mother tongue, but in Cyprus and New Zealand I rarely interact with Americans. The foreign community in Paphos is mainly POM or Russian with the waitering done by Bulgarians.

    This morning I did something I would not normall do; I watched CNN. The content of the conversation was unhinged. It was deluded, paranoid and irrational.

    The "pundits" saw themselves as part of a great moral crusade whose victory would be assured only when the saboteurs and wreckers from America's imperfect past were finally swept away.

    This has the potential to get really spiteful, really fast.

    Replies: @Jake, @AM, @Hunsdon, @notanon, @Jim Christian, @JamesG, @TheJester

    As iSteve mentions, the new immigrants have very, very loose connections to America’s political, social, and religious traditions. Why would a Muslim or Hindi immigrant, for example, value democracy, freedom of speech, or a constitution order? A law-abiding, high-trust, altruistic social order is there for the taking … an opportunity to exploit its vulnerabilities, not praise its virtues.

    My perception is that many new immigrant groups see the United States as an entrepôt … a temporary trading station to direct work and wealth to family, clan, or caste back in the home country. It is a form of looting i.e. redirecting software projects and other IT work, let’s say, to Mumbai as the raison d’être for family members immigrating to the United States in the first place.

    As for the natives, schools have ceased teaching civics in schools, which accounts for the inability of most high school and university students to explain the organization of our government or recite the salient points in the Constitution. In the interests of multiculturalism, schools have also ceased teaching anything about Western Civilization. This makes it so much easier for youngsters to “drink the Koolaid” about white privilege and white oppression.

    “Who fought who in WWII?” “I dunno … and I don’t care.”

    Hence, multiculturalism alienates and makes enemies of one’s own children. When forced to teach about a rainbow of immigrant cultures, one forfeits the time and resources to teach your children about your own. By default, it also brings credence to minority and immigrant complaints and demands for reparations based on disparate impacts because the children have nothing in their experience or education to bring balance or perspective to the complaints. They live hermetically sealed in a cultural and political vacuum that only gives the megaphone to complainers who do not reciprocate in valuing the multicultural perspective — which to them is a one-way street.

    Multiculturalism is a trap that forfeits one’s economic, social, and political legacies to the newcomers. They’ve sprung the trap. The looting of America has begun. It’s time to circle the wagons … or surrender.

  115. @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHd9-QCWAAExl94.jpg

    Replies: @Gunner, @James Richard

    Dude, don’t be a moron. Osama bin Laden TOLD us that he wanted us out of Mesopotamia and sacred Arabia and yet we insisted on doing so even going so far as to think we can subdue Bactria of all places. It doesn’t fucking work. Bring the troops back home!

  116. @oddsbodkins
    @eah

    What does the toilet do if you read Sailer while sitting on it?

    Replies: @El Dato, @James Richard

    If you are reading Mein Kampf it will suck you into the macerator while informing the authorities to arrest your entire family out unto first cousins.

  117. @Hyperborean
    @Anon

    "Also, in spirit of fairness, US should have admitted to injustice of Nakba and the untenable continuation of the Occupation."

    Why should Americans comment on something committed by Jews? Arabs haven't apologised for ethnically cleansing French people from Algeria.

    Just because you don't like Jews doesn't mean that Palestinians are our allies. Even if you mouth liberal platitudes about how mean the Israelis are, the Arabs won't stop agitating for our dispossesion and demographic replacement.

    Besides why does a Jewish-Saracen dispute in which we should have no stake in attract so much attention compared to say, the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus or the situation of Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija and Bosnia.

    I couldn't care less whether Israel was pushed to the sea or vice versa all the Palestinians pushed into Jordan and I don't see why you should either.

    Replies: @Anon, @James Richard

    Right on. Wogs start at the Channel.

  118. @fnn
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    A lot of different definitions of "lynching" seem to be in use. It used to at least be popularly understood as killing by done by a more or less large group, non-clandestinely, under color of law. The Leo Frank killing was like that, the killing of Emmett Till quite the opposite.

    Replies: @Logan

    Quite right. It was a semi-public event as a rule. I don’t think “under cover of law” is quite right. It was more like community-sanctioned. Which if you squint just right, in a democracy is kinda-sorta just a legal shortcut.

    You are entirely right about the Till case. I do get tired of hearing it called a lynching, when it was a private murder by outraged relatives of the offended woman, who took considerable care to keep what they were doing private.

  119. @Mr. Anon
    @Tiny Duck


    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who?
     
    Yes. Black people enslaved other black people and then sold them to white people. Who then sold them to other white people. And hispanic people. And even a few black people.

    Oh, and there were black people who were enslaved by other black people and sold to arabs. And there were Arabs and Turks and Moors who enslaved white people. And Turks who bought their white slaves from other white people (who had enslaved them). Some Arabs still enslave people to this day.

    Replies: @theoldnorth, @Logan

    If we go back a dozen or two generations, we’re pretty much all descended from both slaves and slaveowners. Especially if you’re a little bit loose on the definition of slave.

    Somehow a very nearly universal human practice has become stereotyped as being committed only by evil white Americans against noble black Africans.

  120. @August Hurtel
    Antifa says by any means necessary. So, they might well kill one of their own and blame the white man for it. People don't understand they are criminally insane. Any means necessary includes all the means that would destroy whatever ends they pretend to be trying to achieve.

    Replies: @Jake

    Yes, they are insane – made mad by bleeding hearts and a sense of guilt for their ancestors surviving a harsh world. All Leftists are as destructive as you note.

  121. @Corvinus
    Most normies abhor the Confederacy. It represented slavery and secession. The Confederacy sought to DESTROY our nation. The norms are about what those monuments represent FROM THE PAST. They do not care that monuments serve as a historical record, nor do they care about the history of such individuals the monuments pay tribute to. Yes, Robert E. Lee opposed slavery. Yes, he had significant reservations about personally abandoning the Union. But what matters most is that he supported the Confederacy.

    What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here. The Confederacy monuments and the Washington/Jefferson/Lincoln monuments are on a separate moral plane as viewed by normies. In the end, the monuments are used as political pawns by the right and the left, not as historical pieces. I say move the monuments to private property. But in the meantime, anyone who rips them down now and in the future is defacing public property and ought to be arrested.

    Replies: @Marty T, @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Jake, @celt darnell

    What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here.

    Tell the normies I said lotsa luck with their nuance.

    Let us know how it works out.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    "Tell the normies I said lotsa luck with their nuance. Let us know how it works out."

    Indeed, since the normies are reasonable, not the Coalition of the Right Fringe or the Coalition of the Left Fringe.

  122. @Corvinus
    Most normies abhor the Confederacy. It represented slavery and secession. The Confederacy sought to DESTROY our nation. The norms are about what those monuments represent FROM THE PAST. They do not care that monuments serve as a historical record, nor do they care about the history of such individuals the monuments pay tribute to. Yes, Robert E. Lee opposed slavery. Yes, he had significant reservations about personally abandoning the Union. But what matters most is that he supported the Confederacy.

    What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here. The Confederacy monuments and the Washington/Jefferson/Lincoln monuments are on a separate moral plane as viewed by normies. In the end, the monuments are used as political pawns by the right and the left, not as historical pieces. I say move the monuments to private property. But in the meantime, anyone who rips them down now and in the future is defacing public property and ought to be arrested.

    Replies: @Marty T, @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Jake, @celt darnell

    The best case I can make for you is that you are a dreamy optimist ignorant of revolutionary history. An contemporary American version of the nice Frenchmen of 1789 who were certain that it al was about a truly bad monarchy and a bunch or truly bad bishops and hereditary nobles, and once they were dealt with – fairly and humanely – then normality would reign with goodness blooming for all.

    But then the Revolution keep taking new turns and killing more people, destroying more culture because it was the culture of the EVIL past.

    The Leftist freaks of America are no less insane and no less amoral then were the Revolutionaries of France.

    • Replies: @James Richard
    @Jake

    https://www.amazon.com/Reflections-Revolution-France-Oxford-Classics/dp/0199539022/

    , @Corvinus
    @Jake

    "An contemporary American version of the nice Frenchmen of 1789 who were certain that it al was about a truly bad monarchy and a bunch or truly bad bishops and hereditary nobles, and once they were dealt with – fairly and humanely – then normality would reign with goodness blooming for all."

    From the middle and lower class perspective, they had enough of the tyrannical rule of absolute monarchs and the oppressive nobles. They were definitively inspired by the Americans who had removed there king and what they viewed as the dictatorship of Parliament.

    "But then the Revolution keep taking new turns and killing more people, destroying more culture because it was the culture of the EVIL past."

    What culture that was destroyed are you referencing?

    Anyways, that is what happens when there is a power vacuum--competing groups jockeying for position, with murder, chaos, and mayhem being left in its wake. Robespierre ended up getting his comeuppance. In the end, a dictator gained control, he was eventually deposed, and then political stability was established.

    "The Leftist freaks of America are no less insane and no less amoral then were the Revolutionaries of France."

    The Revolutionaries of France desired life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How are they insane and amoral?

    Replies: @mb

  123. @Jack D
    The bad news is that this is turning into a race war.

    The good news is that all the white people getting lynched so far have been statues. There also hasn't been any undocumented shopping yet. Of course that could all change at any moment. Brothas are not known for their restraint once a riot gets going. Left would like this to be Trump's Katrina.

    Last night in Phila they spray painted "Black Power" on the statue of 1970s mayor Frank Rizzo (who was a sort of local Trump type character - tough ex-cop who did not mind literally (and figuratively) bashing heads of bad guys of any color).

    Here he is in a famous photo with a nightstick in his cummerbund after leaving a black tie event to head directly to a riot:

    http://www.internationalist.org/rizzo69.jpg


    So not only are we going backward from Robert E. Lee to past "racists" like Jefferson, but we are also going to move forward to more modern dead white racists as well.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Johann Ricke, @James Richard

    Brothas are not known for their restraint once a riot gets going.

    And white folks are hardly famous for restraint when re-establishing law and order.

  124. @Randal
    @Chrisnonymous


    Randal says:

    August 18, 2017 at 9:32 am GMT


    It will never happen, and when it does the loathsome despicable white racist hater will have fully deserved it anyway.


    • Troll: Chrisnonymous
     
    Was this an irony-recognition fail, or is it a second order trolling accusation, by which you mean to imply that my ironic reference to what Dreher at TAC coined, having recognised it as a characteristic feature of leftist discourse, as "the law of merited impossibility", is in some way trollish in itself?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Irony-recognition fail.

    • Replies: @Randal
    @Chrisnonymous

    Jolly good.

  125. Now let’s remember that we have survived more times of hate and persecution.
    Ad let us remember that in those times, little acts of support can make big differences. We haven’t done enough to document this.
    I’m thinking about the long “red decade” whose activism started with a well-prepared assassination (Huey Long), with antifa fights against “Bundists”, then led to a hate campaign against the America Firsters and ended with internment camps and “sedition” trials. All this can happen again. But we can take inspiring examples from the standfast victims and the compassionate helpers.

  126. Hi Steve: I hope that you don’t mind I posted this on the NYT website: I did not use your name.

    How Soon Until Somebody Gets Lynched?
    In this current paroxysm of Establishment-driven hate and fear, how long until a mob of good-thinkers lynches somebody?
    I can imagine the subsequent op-eds putting the no-doubt regrettable event into appropriate historical perspective: while the lynching of a suspected racist Nazi white supremacist was unfortunate, we must always remember the thousands of black men (not to mention Leo Frank) who were lynched by, no doubt, blood ancestors of the dead man, so when considering the long sweep of history, this modest erosion of white privilege must be tallied up as, on the whole, part of the arc of the moral universe bending toward justice etc etc

  127. @Jake
    @Corvinus

    The best case I can make for you is that you are a dreamy optimist ignorant of revolutionary history. An contemporary American version of the nice Frenchmen of 1789 who were certain that it al was about a truly bad monarchy and a bunch or truly bad bishops and hereditary nobles, and once they were dealt with - fairly and humanely - then normality would reign with goodness blooming for all.

    But then the Revolution keep taking new turns and killing more people, destroying more culture because it was the culture of the EVIL past.

    The Leftist freaks of America are no less insane and no less amoral then were the Revolutionaries of France.

    Replies: @James Richard, @Corvinus

  128. @Chrisnonymous
    @Randal

    Irony-recognition fail.

    Replies: @Randal

    Jolly good.

  129. @Corvinus
    Most normies abhor the Confederacy. It represented slavery and secession. The Confederacy sought to DESTROY our nation. The norms are about what those monuments represent FROM THE PAST. They do not care that monuments serve as a historical record, nor do they care about the history of such individuals the monuments pay tribute to. Yes, Robert E. Lee opposed slavery. Yes, he had significant reservations about personally abandoning the Union. But what matters most is that he supported the Confederacy.

    What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here. The Confederacy monuments and the Washington/Jefferson/Lincoln monuments are on a separate moral plane as viewed by normies. In the end, the monuments are used as political pawns by the right and the left, not as historical pieces. I say move the monuments to private property. But in the meantime, anyone who rips them down now and in the future is defacing public property and ought to be arrested.

    Replies: @Marty T, @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Jake, @celt darnell

    Well that certainly explains the urge to downgrade/remove Andrew Jackson from the $20.

    You know, the guy who said “The Union must and shall be preserved.”?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @celt darnell

    "Well that certainly explains the urge to downgrade/remove Andrew Jackson from the $20. You know, the guy who said “The Union must and shall be preserved.”?"

    Ironic. He believed in states rights, but not if states rights trumped national supremacy. Jackson believed in slavery and ignored the Supreme Court when it came to Indian sovereignty, but during his presidency he championed the common man in politics, rotated officials, and facilitated pork barrel spending. In the end, I didn't think he should have been removed from the $20 bill.

  130. @eah
    https://twitter.com/jjws/status/898595838003367936

    Replies: @AM

    The question is: why can’t we get the mobs to “lynch” some modern art? I’d join one tearing down random scrap metal heap in park. Those old statues were the only half decent public art left.

  131. @Marty T
    @Corvinus

    Over 60 percent want monuments to stand.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Over 60 percent want monuments to stand.”

    Out of 1,125 adults surveyed. Next time provide a link. See how easy it is.

    https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=3933461-NPR-PBS-NewsHour-Marist-Poll-Aug-17-2017

    Interesting. Thank you for the numbers here. Perhaps those normies, including blacks, who believed the monuments should remain should find ways to voice their opinion.

  132. @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @Corvinus


    What about Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln? Should not their monuments be ripped down? According to most normies, no. While these individuals supported slavery, their accomplishments are generally viewed as BUILDING or PRESERVING our nation. That is the nuance here.
     
    Tell the normies I said lotsa luck with their nuance.

    Let us know how it works out.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Tell the normies I said lotsa luck with their nuance. Let us know how it works out.”

    Indeed, since the normies are reasonable, not the Coalition of the Right Fringe or the Coalition of the Left Fringe.

  133. @Corvinus
    @AM

    "Everyone in my son’s reasonably good, majority white high school would have voted Trump, as far as he knew."

    Right, because the young men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach. The young ladies were pissed at the D establishment for Hillary's shenanigans, especially in not giving Bernie Sanders a fair shake.

    "The energy within the Alt-right is almost from all Gen Z and very late millennial (boundaries blur), something you can get at from the humor. I routinely met 17/19/20/21 olds on Twitter. Don’t miss Twitter, but the boys were worth the talking to."

    The political leanings of teenagers fluctuates. Gen Z'ers were drawn to the bravado of Trump. Will they be there in 4 years if he runs for reelection? If Trump wins again, then the Gen Z'ers have a decided skin in the game. Until then, it is speculation regarding their love affair with Trump.

    "The rest of your post refers to millennials who are in their mid-late 20′s-to early 30′s and are have old enough to have voted for Obama at least once. Analysis wise, it would be helpful to get the terms right."

    Exactly. Get things right.

    http://opportunitylives.com/how-the-next-generation-will-change-politics

    "Gen Z’s preferred financial policies seem to be reliably conservative. But the rest of their beliefs defy categorization in the current partisan environment. According to Grace and Seemiller’s research, 40 percent of Gen Z’ers classify themselves as socially liberal — with over 80 percent supporting marriage equality. Many are projecting that they’ll be very libertarian in their views,” Grace said. She summarized their approach as, “‘Please don’t intervene in my life, but protect people and make sure everyone’s taken care of.’ 'Generation Z Goes to College' says that nearly 75 percent of the up-and-coming generation is very concerned about limitations on personal freedom. They don’t want government involvement in gun ownership, access to abortion, euthanasia or marriage."

    Fiscal conservatives. Social liberals. [Gasp] Generation Z are moderates!

    "If you know the truth or something of the truth, you pass it on to your kids the best you can."

    Yes, what you believe to be truth.

    "When I pass on the truth as best as I can to my kids, it is with full awareness I cannot force them to act a certain way, beyond a certain age. But “Choosing for yourself”, aka following where your flawed emotions bring you, can lead to objective disaster that occasionally cannot be undone."

    Assuming that those emotions are flawed.

    "My job as steward is to point out, before big mistakes happen, that God’s rules mean a great life in the long run, even if they struggle on one or more issues."

    Great. Just realize a number of people view religion different than yourself, and will guide their children accordingly. They will pass on the truth as best as they can to their kids.

    Replies: @AM

    Right, because the young men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach.

    My son is fascinated by your look into his mind. I find that in working with teenagers, achieving just the patronizing tone always is the best bet.

    The political leanings of teenagers fluctuates. Gen Z’ers were drawn to the bravado of Trump.

    I see you’ve doubled down on the patronizing. Excellent! Like I said it’s a surefire way to convince any teenager that you’re a old fogey not worth listening to got some amazing insight on living on planet earth.

    Fiscal conservatives. Social liberals. [Gasp] Generation Z are moderates!

    They will not stay social liberals if this whole shooting match collapses. My son is already deeply concerned. At any rate, in just being barely 20, they are exactly the age of social liberalism although they are very young to be have been turned off by socialism. Something to think about. The alt-right crowd, although small in number, I met was easily farther right than I was social issues. At age 19. That’s another very interesting development.

    Yes, what you believe to be truth.

    Ah, this is why you’ve got your hippie, dippie Jesus. The truth exists and it’s our job to find it. We will do it imperfectly, we will have to apologize, we will make mistakes. But objective truth exists. Our inability to understand truth perfectly does not make it subjective.

    Assuming that those emotions are flawed.

    Wasn’t it you who just said “truth is what I believe?” or least tried to imply it? Your emotions are flawed because we are all fallen. Emotions are important energy and information, but they should never exclude the use of reason or be used to avoid sacrifice. They can never be wholly trusted and be verified against other sources of information.

    Great. Just realize a number of people view religion different than yourself, and will guide their children accordingly. They will pass on the truth as best as they can to their kids.

    You’ve really got this patronizing tone down. I am impressed. Chance are high I’m much more tolerant on the point than you are, precisely because I believe in our fallen nature. What I think is profoundly unserious laziness and total BS is “let the kids choose their own religion”. It just says Mom and Dad are mostly atheists who think religion is some sort cute play toy.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AM

    "My son is fascinated by your look into his mind. I find that in working with teenagers, achieving just the patronizing tone always is the best bet."

    If you found the tone patronizing, then you would be projecting. It's our fallen nature, right?

    'They will not stay social liberals if this whole shooting match collapses. My son is already deeply concerned."

    Awesome! I hope he votes his conscious.

    "At any rate, in just being barely 20, they are exactly the age of social liberalism although they are very young to be have been turned off by socialism."

    SOME people are, others are not. There is evidence that suggests political beliefs are malleable.

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/04/what-shapes-your-political-beliefs-at-18-35-and-50.html

    "Ah, this is why you’ve got your hippie, dippie Jesus."

    No, it's just Jesus.

    "Wasn’t it you who just said “truth is what I believe?” or least tried to imply it?"

    Truth is what we believe, but that believe may be based on ignorance, falsehoods, or confirmation bias.
    It's our fallen nature, right?

    "Chance are high I’m much more tolerant on the point than you are, precisely because I believe in our fallen nature."

    Maybe. But probably not.

    "What I think is profoundly unserious laziness and total BS is “let the kids choose their own religion”.

    I never said kids should choose their own religion. I said that parents will guide their children according to their beliefs to the best of their ability. Their children as they get older may adhere to those beliefs, modify them, or change them. That is their liberty.

  134. @celt darnell
    @Corvinus

    Well that certainly explains the urge to downgrade/remove Andrew Jackson from the $20.

    You know, the guy who said "The Union must and shall be preserved."?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Well that certainly explains the urge to downgrade/remove Andrew Jackson from the $20. You know, the guy who said “The Union must and shall be preserved.”?”

    Ironic. He believed in states rights, but not if states rights trumped national supremacy. Jackson believed in slavery and ignored the Supreme Court when it came to Indian sovereignty, but during his presidency he championed the common man in politics, rotated officials, and facilitated pork barrel spending. In the end, I didn’t think he should have been removed from the $20 bill.

  135. @Jake
    @Corvinus

    The best case I can make for you is that you are a dreamy optimist ignorant of revolutionary history. An contemporary American version of the nice Frenchmen of 1789 who were certain that it al was about a truly bad monarchy and a bunch or truly bad bishops and hereditary nobles, and once they were dealt with - fairly and humanely - then normality would reign with goodness blooming for all.

    But then the Revolution keep taking new turns and killing more people, destroying more culture because it was the culture of the EVIL past.

    The Leftist freaks of America are no less insane and no less amoral then were the Revolutionaries of France.

    Replies: @James Richard, @Corvinus

    “An contemporary American version of the nice Frenchmen of 1789 who were certain that it al was about a truly bad monarchy and a bunch or truly bad bishops and hereditary nobles, and once they were dealt with – fairly and humanely – then normality would reign with goodness blooming for all.”

    From the middle and lower class perspective, they had enough of the tyrannical rule of absolute monarchs and the oppressive nobles. They were definitively inspired by the Americans who had removed there king and what they viewed as the dictatorship of Parliament.

    “But then the Revolution keep taking new turns and killing more people, destroying more culture because it was the culture of the EVIL past.”

    What culture that was destroyed are you referencing?

    Anyways, that is what happens when there is a power vacuum–competing groups jockeying for position, with murder, chaos, and mayhem being left in its wake. Robespierre ended up getting his comeuppance. In the end, a dictator gained control, he was eventually deposed, and then political stability was established.

    “The Leftist freaks of America are no less insane and no less amoral then were the Revolutionaries of France.”

    The Revolutionaries of France desired life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How are they insane and amoral?

    • Replies: @mb
    @Corvinus

    The Revolutionaries of France desired life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How are they insane and amoral?

    You need to get a clue.
    The French Revolution was all about the fraternity of liberty in the equality in the lowest common denominator.
    IOW they believed in equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity or equality before the law.
    Big difference there with the American war for independence.

    But the trouble is you gotta use force to make the outcome equal. (Harrison Bergeron, we lookin' at you.)
    That's what the guillotine was all about.
    Those who wouldn't buy in and believe the koolaid had to be eliminated.
    Cause everybody at least has to believe the same thing.

    Our egalitarian SJW socialists are merely treading the same path, with the media, academia and our coercive cognitive elite cheering them on.
    It cannot end well if it keeps going the way it has been.
    Mass stupidity/insanity has a way of crashing and burning.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  136. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Jack Hanson

    SBR?

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Harry Baldwin

    Short Barreled Rifle, as abbreviated by the cognoscenti. The minimum barrel length for a standard rifle is 16″, but with approved paperwork and the purchase of a government tax stamp you can own one with a shorter, handier barrel.

  137. @Hunsdon
    @22pp22

    It has the potential to get kinetic really fast.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Which reminds us that the election of Trump has led to the bottom falling out on the AR-15 market. There are tremendous bargains on AR-15 rifle components and complete rifles. For example, you can get a complete GI profile 20″ barrel upper from Del-Ton for $245 right now. Sportsman’s Guide has Anderson lower receivers for $37.

    The vast majority of you DON’T have an AR. What are you waiting for? The market will never be better.

    Live in a Communist State?

    Mold your own AR lower receiver:

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/how-to-build-a-lower-receiver/

    Need a Glock-magazine compatible pistol?

    Make it yourself at home:

    http://www.polymer80.com/

    They even have DIY AR frames.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Joe Stalin

    Sorry; http://ar15mold.com/

    , @James Richard
    @Joe Stalin

    I hate AR rifles.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  138. @Joe Stalin
    @Hunsdon

    Which reminds us that the election of Trump has led to the bottom falling out on the AR-15 market. There are tremendous bargains on AR-15 rifle components and complete rifles. For example, you can get a complete GI profile 20" barrel upper from Del-Ton for $245 right now. Sportsman's Guide has Anderson lower receivers for $37.

    The vast majority of you DON'T have an AR. What are you waiting for? The market will never be better.

    Live in a Communist State?

    Mold your own AR lower receiver:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBhrEcPZmts

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/how-to-build-a-lower-receiver/

    Need a Glock-magazine compatible pistol?

    Make it yourself at home:

    http://www.polymer80.com/

    They even have DIY AR frames.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @James Richard

  139. @AM
    @Corvinus


    Right, because the young men were especially fascinated by Trump’s machismo and noticeably turned off by Hillary’s mother hen approach.
     
    My son is fascinated by your look into his mind. I find that in working with teenagers, achieving just the patronizing tone always is the best bet.

    The political leanings of teenagers fluctuates. Gen Z’ers were drawn to the bravado of Trump.
     
    I see you've doubled down on the patronizing. Excellent! Like I said it's a surefire way to convince any teenager that you're a old fogey not worth listening to got some amazing insight on living on planet earth.

    Fiscal conservatives. Social liberals. [Gasp] Generation Z are moderates!
     
    They will not stay social liberals if this whole shooting match collapses. My son is already deeply concerned. At any rate, in just being barely 20, they are exactly the age of social liberalism although they are very young to be have been turned off by socialism. Something to think about. The alt-right crowd, although small in number, I met was easily farther right than I was social issues. At age 19. That's another very interesting development.

    Yes, what you believe to be truth.
     
    Ah, this is why you've got your hippie, dippie Jesus. The truth exists and it's our job to find it. We will do it imperfectly, we will have to apologize, we will make mistakes. But objective truth exists. Our inability to understand truth perfectly does not make it subjective.

    Assuming that those emotions are flawed.
     
    Wasn't it you who just said "truth is what I believe?" or least tried to imply it? Your emotions are flawed because we are all fallen. Emotions are important energy and information, but they should never exclude the use of reason or be used to avoid sacrifice. They can never be wholly trusted and be verified against other sources of information.

    Great. Just realize a number of people view religion different than yourself, and will guide their children accordingly. They will pass on the truth as best as they can to their kids.
     
    You've really got this patronizing tone down. I am impressed. Chance are high I'm much more tolerant on the point than you are, precisely because I believe in our fallen nature. What I think is profoundly unserious laziness and total BS is "let the kids choose their own religion". It just says Mom and Dad are mostly atheists who think religion is some sort cute play toy.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “My son is fascinated by your look into his mind. I find that in working with teenagers, achieving just the patronizing tone always is the best bet.”

    If you found the tone patronizing, then you would be projecting. It’s our fallen nature, right?

    ‘They will not stay social liberals if this whole shooting match collapses. My son is already deeply concerned.”

    Awesome! I hope he votes his conscious.

    “At any rate, in just being barely 20, they are exactly the age of social liberalism although they are very young to be have been turned off by socialism.”

    SOME people are, others are not. There is evidence that suggests political beliefs are malleable.

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/04/what-shapes-your-political-beliefs-at-18-35-and-50.html

    “Ah, this is why you’ve got your hippie, dippie Jesus.”

    No, it’s just Jesus.

    “Wasn’t it you who just said “truth is what I believe?” or least tried to imply it?”

    Truth is what we believe, but that believe may be based on ignorance, falsehoods, or confirmation bias.
    It’s our fallen nature, right?

    “Chance are high I’m much more tolerant on the point than you are, precisely because I believe in our fallen nature.”

    Maybe. But probably not.

    “What I think is profoundly unserious laziness and total BS is “let the kids choose their own religion”.

    I never said kids should choose their own religion. I said that parents will guide their children according to their beliefs to the best of their ability. Their children as they get older may adhere to those beliefs, modify them, or change them. That is their liberty.

  140. @Joe Stalin
    @Hunsdon

    Which reminds us that the election of Trump has led to the bottom falling out on the AR-15 market. There are tremendous bargains on AR-15 rifle components and complete rifles. For example, you can get a complete GI profile 20" barrel upper from Del-Ton for $245 right now. Sportsman's Guide has Anderson lower receivers for $37.

    The vast majority of you DON'T have an AR. What are you waiting for? The market will never be better.

    Live in a Communist State?

    Mold your own AR lower receiver:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBhrEcPZmts

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/how-to-build-a-lower-receiver/

    Need a Glock-magazine compatible pistol?

    Make it yourself at home:

    http://www.polymer80.com/

    They even have DIY AR frames.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @James Richard

    I hate AR rifles.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @James Richard

    I'm an early adopter of ARs (SP1); had one for three decades. Built a 16" shorty 25 years ago.

    On the other hand, there's an FN-FAL Para and HK91A2 also in the closet.

    So, remember the first law of a gunfight: bring a gun.

    Replies: @James Richard

  141. mb says: • Website
    @Corvinus
    @Jake

    "An contemporary American version of the nice Frenchmen of 1789 who were certain that it al was about a truly bad monarchy and a bunch or truly bad bishops and hereditary nobles, and once they were dealt with – fairly and humanely – then normality would reign with goodness blooming for all."

    From the middle and lower class perspective, they had enough of the tyrannical rule of absolute monarchs and the oppressive nobles. They were definitively inspired by the Americans who had removed there king and what they viewed as the dictatorship of Parliament.

    "But then the Revolution keep taking new turns and killing more people, destroying more culture because it was the culture of the EVIL past."

    What culture that was destroyed are you referencing?

    Anyways, that is what happens when there is a power vacuum--competing groups jockeying for position, with murder, chaos, and mayhem being left in its wake. Robespierre ended up getting his comeuppance. In the end, a dictator gained control, he was eventually deposed, and then political stability was established.

    "The Leftist freaks of America are no less insane and no less amoral then were the Revolutionaries of France."

    The Revolutionaries of France desired life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How are they insane and amoral?

    Replies: @mb

    The Revolutionaries of France desired life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How are they insane and amoral?

    You need to get a clue.
    The French Revolution was all about the fraternity of liberty in the equality in the lowest common denominator.
    IOW they believed in equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity or equality before the law.
    Big difference there with the American war for independence.

    But the trouble is you gotta use force to make the outcome equal. (Harrison Bergeron, we lookin’ at you.)
    That’s what the guillotine was all about.
    Those who wouldn’t buy in and believe the koolaid had to be eliminated.
    Cause everybody at least has to believe the same thing.

    Our egalitarian SJW socialists are merely treading the same path, with the media, academia and our coercive cognitive elite cheering them on.
    It cannot end well if it keeps going the way it has been.
    Mass stupidity/insanity has a way of crashing and burning.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @mb

    "You need to get a clue. The French Revolution was all about the fraternity of liberty in the equality in the lowest common denominator."

    You are a revisionist historian here. There had been increasing social antagonism between the aristocracy and the bourgeoisie, especially when it came to “reforming” the tax code. It was a "fraternity of liberty" to ensure equality before the law, since one group had exclusive domain in setting and collecting taxes. The impulse to make changes in a traditional system intensifies political conflicts. Traditional aristocratic attitudes were on the attack by a broadening of public opinion regarding popular sovereignty. After the Republic was created, there had been a surge in counter-revolutionary movements, along with a declaration of war against Austria, Prussia, and Great Britain. The level of violence grew to repress those elements which also sought equality before the law.

    "Our egalitarian SJW socialists are merely treading the same path, with the media, academia and our coercive cognitive elite cheering them on."

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.

  142. How Soon Until Somebody Gets Lynched?

    FAPP what happened to Steve Scalise?

    OK, OK, it wasn’t a mob that did it, but wasn’t there a mob of people calling for somebody to do it?

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @mb

    Why not lynch the zeroth amendment poem?

  143. @mb

    How Soon Until Somebody Gets Lynched?
     
    FAPP what happened to Steve Scalise?

    OK, OK, it wasn't a mob that did it, but wasn't there a mob of people calling for somebody to do it?

    Replies: @Pericles

    Why not lynch the zeroth amendment poem?

  144. @Boethiuss
    @Jack Hanson



    Imagine the shit storm when the SJW mob goes after a dude who has an SBR in his truck and they (the Left) gets cut down.
     
    Yeah, an SBR really would have helped Randy Weaver when he got shot by the FBI from, I dunno, 300 yards away.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Paul Jolliffe

    A minor correction:

    The FBI didn’t kill Randy Weaver, although they tried

    The FBI did shoot and kill Weaver’s wife, Vicki, while she was holding their infant daughter in her arms.

    That Lon Horiuchi, the FBI “sniper”, fired on Kevin Harris, but missed and killed Vicki Weaver.

    Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris were acquitted of all charges (except one minor one – failure to appear in court) and Harris sued the Feds to the tune of $338,000.

    In short, the FBI was criminally incompetent, yet no one at the FBI even saw a demotion, let alone a criminal conviction.

    Lon Horiuchi’s name remains unknown to almost all Americans, because media was silent on his and the FBI’s awful performance.

    The 25th anniversary of the federal government’s murderous actions against innocent white Americans at Ruby Ridge is next week.

    This is an incredibly timely I-Steve topic, if ever there was one.

  145. @mb
    @Corvinus

    The Revolutionaries of France desired life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How are they insane and amoral?

    You need to get a clue.
    The French Revolution was all about the fraternity of liberty in the equality in the lowest common denominator.
    IOW they believed in equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity or equality before the law.
    Big difference there with the American war for independence.

    But the trouble is you gotta use force to make the outcome equal. (Harrison Bergeron, we lookin' at you.)
    That's what the guillotine was all about.
    Those who wouldn't buy in and believe the koolaid had to be eliminated.
    Cause everybody at least has to believe the same thing.

    Our egalitarian SJW socialists are merely treading the same path, with the media, academia and our coercive cognitive elite cheering them on.
    It cannot end well if it keeps going the way it has been.
    Mass stupidity/insanity has a way of crashing and burning.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “You need to get a clue. The French Revolution was all about the fraternity of liberty in the equality in the lowest common denominator.”

    You are a revisionist historian here. There had been increasing social antagonism between the aristocracy and the bourgeoisie, especially when it came to “reforming” the tax code. It was a “fraternity of liberty” to ensure equality before the law, since one group had exclusive domain in setting and collecting taxes. The impulse to make changes in a traditional system intensifies political conflicts. Traditional aristocratic attitudes were on the attack by a broadening of public opinion regarding popular sovereignty. After the Republic was created, there had been a surge in counter-revolutionary movements, along with a declaration of war against Austria, Prussia, and Great Britain. The level of violence grew to repress those elements which also sought equality before the law.

    “Our egalitarian SJW socialists are merely treading the same path, with the media, academia and our coercive cognitive elite cheering them on.”

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.

  146. @James Richard
    @Joe Stalin

    I hate AR rifles.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    I’m an early adopter of ARs (SP1); had one for three decades. Built a 16″ shorty 25 years ago.

    On the other hand, there’s an FN-FAL Para and HK91A2 also in the closet.

    So, remember the first law of a gunfight: bring a gun.

    • Replies: @James Richard
    @Joe Stalin

    I got issued my first one 50 years ago. 20 inch pencil barrel and fully functional 3-position selector switch. I don't like the Stoner system in any configuration. Pedersen and Garand had the right idea: 10 round internal magazine and in a 7mm caliber. With practice it can be reloaded with a clip in one second flat.

  147. @AM
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia


    Sounds like something Gen Z could get into.
     
    Okay, I know you're semi-serious, but my reply is kinda more serious.

    Generation Z is being raised by Generation X. Pray we're doing a better job.

    Right now, it's the millennials who display this odd devotion to feelings and equality, perhaps being the children of the end of the Boomers has something to do with it.

    White Generation Z would have voted Trump, close to 70% with the boys.


    Lynchings, from my understanding, were supposed to be an event.
     
    It's me and like 2 other modern Catholics that agree with this point of the teaching, but if there is going to be an execution for crime, it must absolutely be public. If someone is to justly lose their lives for crime, then life is still so precious that the event needs to be used to discourage future crime and death. If a young future criminal hesitates or delays or does something altogether different from seeing the results of crime, then that's the point.

    In other words, all these modern private executions of criminals are not the ideal, even if public executions can have an inappropriate carnival feel at times.

    Lynchings seem to appear in places where the police are unreliable or non-existent. The rural South appears to been very similar to the wild west in terms of policing levels. Except they had to deal with one of the more violent population groups on the planet. Not an excuse for no trial, but lynchings seem less monstrous when placed in context.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @cynthia curran

    Actually, the younger baby boomers were to the right of gen x. It was the older baby boomers that voted heavily Dem and are the parents of some of the M. Gen X and M most liberal. Silent generation most conservative, being a younger baby boomer 60 years old, My parents were silent not world war two, Looked at surveys of voting patterns, Silent and younger baby boomers voted the most Republican and opposed illegal immigration the most,

  148. Prop 187 was done by Silent generation and younger baby boomers. People here forget that Gen X and M are a lot more minority and have foreign born parents. Surveys should younger boomers and Silent generation opposed illegal immigration and legal immigration the most. In fact political surveys should gen x the most liberal and Silent generation the most conservative. People here are probably younger boomers that pretend the are gen x which is a lot more liberal than they think since about 17 percent of gen x is foreign born while only 10 percent of baby boomers are and only 6 percent of the silent generation.

    • Replies: @James Richard
    @cynthia curran


    10 percent of baby boomers are (foreign born)
     
    At the time when we natives were born we certainly weren't!
  149. @Joe Stalin
    @James Richard

    I'm an early adopter of ARs (SP1); had one for three decades. Built a 16" shorty 25 years ago.

    On the other hand, there's an FN-FAL Para and HK91A2 also in the closet.

    So, remember the first law of a gunfight: bring a gun.

    Replies: @James Richard

    I got issued my first one 50 years ago. 20 inch pencil barrel and fully functional 3-position selector switch. I don’t like the Stoner system in any configuration. Pedersen and Garand had the right idea: 10 round internal magazine and in a 7mm caliber. With practice it can be reloaded with a clip in one second flat.

  150. @Tiny Duck
    Wow do you guys know who enslaved who? These white tears are delicious but you're delusions are worrisome. white men enjoy so many unearned privileges

    You people really need to talk to POC. They will tell you the truth about white men evil

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous, @fish, @William Badwhite, @Irish Whiskey

    Please list these “unearned privileges” you speak of so that I can go claim them. Somehow I didn’t get that memo from the Whitey In Chief telling me I had them.

  151. @cynthia curran
    Prop 187 was done by Silent generation and younger baby boomers. People here forget that Gen X and M are a lot more minority and have foreign born parents. Surveys should younger boomers and Silent generation opposed illegal immigration and legal immigration the most. In fact political surveys should gen x the most liberal and Silent generation the most conservative. People here are probably younger boomers that pretend the are gen x which is a lot more liberal than they think since about 17 percent of gen x is foreign born while only 10 percent of baby boomers are and only 6 percent of the silent generation.

    Replies: @James Richard

    10 percent of baby boomers are (foreign born)

    At the time when we natives were born we certainly weren’t!

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