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As you may have noticed, America has 8 digits worth of illegal aliens. That’s a whole lot of law-breaking. That much crime doesn’t happen without numerous government officials, elected and appointed, failing criminally to do their duty to uphold the law.

For example, the 1986 immigration compromise granted amnesty in return for future workplace enforcement. But workplace enforcement was gutted by the simple expedient of employers of illegal aliens calling Congressmen they donated to and demanding that their Congressman get the INS to back off.

How many officials have gone to jail for facilitating this immense series of crimes?

 
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  1. Amendment Zero overrides all other laws.

    White conservatives are a powerless and despised minority in California, and that is the goal the globalist elite have for the rest of our lands.

    • Agree: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @Rod1963
    @Maj. Kong

    Look, it's been well known for a very long time if you want to stop illegal.immigration you jail the people who hire them and it stops.

    And who writes the laws? Chamber of Commerce and other like minded organizations. All of whom are pro illegal alien.

    This is why the problem is never directly dealt with. Instead we get kabuki theater where Sessions rounds up some MS-13 psychopaths and some others.

    All of it boils down to this: We really have no say in how the country is run. We are given the illusion that have a say but that's it.

  2. Perhaps “Ground Zero” for politicians using Illegal Aliens to feather their own nest was good ole Lyndon Johnson.

    In 1948, LBJ had just lost a close Democrat primary election for US Senate until “Box 13” suddenly turned up and was opened behind closed doors in Jim Wells County, Texas. Surprise, the “wet back” vote put “Landslide Lyndon” over the top! It goes without saying that Johnson really, really, really hated Eisenhower’s Operation Wetback in 1953-1954. Those were good and trusty Dem. voters that that bastard GOP General was messin’ with and sending back to Mexico! Those Mexicans might not have been the best but they were faithful Democrats, god damn it!

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @Detective Club

    D.C.,

    Your point that the election of '48 was stolen is correct But illegal aliens didn't steal it, LBJ did! The infamous box from Precinct 13 containing the additional 202 votes, "discovered" six days after the election, did not have any real votes in it - those votes were all fake, and signed by not 202 different people, but one person!

    The problem in 1948 is the opposite of what (almost certainly) happened in California and elsewhere in 2016.

    In 1948, NO illegal aliens ACTUALLY voted for LBJ or anyone else. Their names were "used" by corrupt Jim Wells County officials - George Parr - after the fact to ensure LBJ's election! George Parr and his buddies - including the sheriff - created the votes in Precinct 13, and then took a souvenir picture for themselves! (See below!)

    In 2016, the number of ineligible voters who actually voted is unknown, but real. Some of those voters were undoubtedly illegal aliens, maybe many. We don't know how many because the Democrats don't want us to know.

    http://www.viewzone.com/lbj/box13.jpg

    , @ic1000
    @Detective Club

    I didn't know the Box 13 story. This seems to be a loose transcript of the Mike DaSilva news clip that you linked.

    Via Google Books, "Lone Star Politics: Tradition and Transformation in Texas," by Ken Collier, Steven Galatas, and Julie Harrelson-Stephens: "The poll lists showed that Box 13's voters had signed in and voted in alphabetical order and in identical handwriting."

    And here's a fair-use excerpt of a NYT report that predates the Current Year, How Johnson Won Election He'd Lost, by Martin Tolchin, Feb. 11, 1990.


    A study of Lyndon B. Johnson [''Means of Ascent'' by Robert A. Caro] provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948... Mr. Caro maintains that although ballot fraud was common in the late 1940's in some parts of Texas, the Johnson campaign of 1948 raised it to a new level...

    Mr. Caro goes into great detail to tell how the future President overcame a 20,000-vote deficit to achieve his famous 87-vote victory in the 1948 Democratic runoff primary against a former Governor, Coke Stevenson. A South Texas political boss, George Parr, had manufactured thousands of votes, Mr. Caro found...

    Johnson received the votes of the dead, the halt, the missing and those who were unaware that an election was going on.

    On primary night, a Saturday, the first tallies of the Democratic primary showed Johnson trailing his opponent by 20,000 votes. Still unreported, however, were the votes from San Antonio, where Stevenson had defeated Johnson 2 to 1 in the first primary. When those votes finally came in, Johnson had won a stunning victory, carrying San Antonio by 10,000 votes.

    Later that evening, the rural counties in the Rio Grande Valley further eroded the Stevenson lead, which was reduced to 854 votes. The next day, county officials ''discovered'' that the returns from one precinct had not yet been counted, Mr. Caro said, and those votes went overwhelmingly to Johnson.

    On Monday, there were more new returns from the Rio Grande Valley. But on Tuesday, the state's Election Bureau announced that complete returns had given Stevenson a 349-vote victory, with 40 votes still uncounted... On Friday, the Rio Grande Valley precincts made ''corrections'' in their election returns, cutting Stevenson's lead to 157. Also on Friday, Jim Wells County telephoned in its amended return. Johnson had won by 87 votes...
     

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Detective Club

    If the country had payed more attention to Phyllis Schlafly back in 1964, we might have been spared a lot of the misery we've faced since then.

    , @Bubba
    @Detective Club

    LBJ's "Stolen Valor" Silver Star is even more sickening. He was never in the military, but got a silver star when a military plane he was in came under fire in the Pacific. Then he started bragging on his Congressional campaign trail of the heroics he performed to earn it.

    , @Chiron
    @Detective Club

    LBJ was a really evil bastard, he was the original Jewish puppet in Washington.

  3. Things look interesting for 2018:

    https://www.kidrockforsenate.com/

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Peripatetic commenter

    you need to think more bigly, friend-o.

    IVANKA/ROCK 2024

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter

  4. How Many Public Officials Have Ever Been Jailed…

    Public officials enjoy a lot of immunity. Too much, in my opinion.

    I’m wondering if, as a form of protest, one could use citizen arrest as a push back. “Citizen arrest” Luis Gutierrez for breach of peace regarding his support of illegal immigration; promptly arrest him again after the courts inevitably release him; etc.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @bomag

    Official immunity is very broad. Not enforcing public duties by itself is not illegal. Unless people are taking bribes it isn't illegal.

    An illegal citizen's arrest could get you prosecuted for assault, kidnapping, etc.

    Replies: @bomag

  5. A crime is whatever powerful people say it is. Was anyone ever jailed for importing millions of Africans into the colonies and the US as scab chattel?

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @AndrewR


    A crime is whatever powerful people say it is. Was anyone ever jailed for importing millions of Africans into the colonies and the US as scab chattel?
     
    Millions were imported into the New World, but only a tiny fraction ended up in mainland Angl0-America:

    The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.

    And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.
     
    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us/

    Replies: @Skinhead

  6. In America today, you don’t actually have to obey the law, if you diagree with it. Law is just another of those out-dated stale pale male things.

    We now live in a new Woke era where laws are “relative” to Who – whom.

  7. President Trump, if he would just lay down the electronics and concentrate for bit, could order AG Jeff Sessions to do just that. There is no power for any judge to stop at least the arrests. I am not naive enough to believe that the people arrested would end up in any kind of jail or even get fined after it all plays out.

    However, this would be a great move for a coupla reasons:

    1) This would get Trump’s base really psyched like he’s never seen.

    2) He would put the fear of God into some of the lower-level bureaucrats that have been bucking the orders to enforce the law on immigration – they will figure that they may not have the entire lyin press and idiot judges ready to save them.

    3) The illegal aliens themselves make take this as a sign that the SHTF time for them is sooner rather than later and increase self-deportation. This may be up a bit now due to their fear of Trump enforcing the law, but it will wear off fairly soon if nothing serious gets done.

    • Replies: @oddsbodkins
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That would be beautiful. He will never do it. Instead there will just be rallies and headline-grabbing small potatoes like the "Muslim ban" and pardoning Arpaio. Keep the base entertained without actually doing much.

  8. At some point, having illegal immigration as part of one’s business model makes one’s business a criminal enterprise. I cannot help but think that a few RICO suits could make some enterprising attorney a tidy sum and forcibly incentivize some businesses to “cast down their buckets where they are”.

  9. “But workplace enforcement was gutted by the simple expedient of employers of illegal aliens calling Congressmen they donated to and demanding that their Congressman get the INS to back off.”
    A link to a report on this part of the story – presumably to vdare.com? – would be nice.

    • Replies: @FPD72
    @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere

    What "gutted" the 1986 immigration bill were the regulations that not only failed to require employers to verify identification documents but actually prohibited them from doing so. Employers were required to accept documents at face value, no matter how dubious they might have appeared.

    The mandatory use of E-Verify, combined with stiff enforcement, would go a long way toward getting control of the border. Nothing like watching illegals being herded onto a border bound bus while their employer is perp walked in handcuffs to an awaiting law enforcement vehicle on their way to the federal building for arraignment.

  10. @Detective Club
    Perhaps "Ground Zero" for politicians using Illegal Aliens to feather their own nest was good ole Lyndon Johnson.
    https://youtu.be/fjIBsVMIqhc
    In 1948, LBJ had just lost a close Democrat primary election for US Senate until "Box 13" suddenly turned up and was opened behind closed doors in Jim Wells County, Texas. Surprise, the "wet back" vote put "Landslide Lyndon" over the top! It goes without saying that Johnson really, really, really hated Eisenhower's Operation Wetback in 1953-1954. Those were good and trusty Dem. voters that that bastard GOP General was messin' with and sending back to Mexico! Those Mexicans might not have been the best but they were faithful Democrats, god damn it!

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @ic1000, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bubba, @Chiron

    D.C.,

    Your point that the election of ’48 was stolen is correct But illegal aliens didn’t steal it, LBJ did! The infamous box from Precinct 13 containing the additional 202 votes, “discovered” six days after the election, did not have any real votes in it – those votes were all fake, and signed by not 202 different people, but one person!

    The problem in 1948 is the opposite of what (almost certainly) happened in California and elsewhere in 2016.

    In 1948, NO illegal aliens ACTUALLY voted for LBJ or anyone else. Their names were “used” by corrupt Jim Wells County officials – George Parr – after the fact to ensure LBJ’s election! George Parr and his buddies – including the sheriff – created the votes in Precinct 13, and then took a souvenir picture for themselves! (See below!)

    In 2016, the number of ineligible voters who actually voted is unknown, but real. Some of those voters were undoubtedly illegal aliens, maybe many. We don’t know how many because the Democrats don’t want us to know.

  11. I don’t know about other states, but in Massachusetts public schools are required to educate anyone of school age who shows up- we are not allowed to inquire as to immigration status.

    Yes- you all read that correctly.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Ganderson

    That's the case nationwide since Phyllis v Dwyer I believe.

    Replies: @Roderick Spode

    , @Alfa158
    @Ganderson

    That's the same everywhere. I think some Federal court decisions established that you could not turn anyone away from either schools or medical facilities based on immigration status.
    In Los Angeles, the school district has kids from Mexico who come from so far back in the boonies that they don't speak Spanish, so the district needed to import people who could translate the Mayan based languages the kids spoke.

    Replies: @Robert Hume

    , @HenryA
    @Ganderson

    This is the case in all fifty states since the Supreme Court's 1982 Plyler v Doe decision. No public school anywhere may inquire as to the immigration status of a child and all illegal children are entitled to a free education. Having worked in a public school with lots of illegals I can tell you that they're easy to spot since they never hand in the financial forms that determine eligibility for free lunches. Funny, we know they are and yet can do nothing about it.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Alden
    @Ganderson

    I believe it's federal law and state and federal court decisions that in our system become law in every state. So every state school system must accept anyone.

    The school administrators and teachers love the immigrant invasions because more students means more money, more teaching and other education jobs and vast expansion.

    Every other business wants to expand. So does education.

    Replies: @bomag

  12. It’s not unusual to hear about some clerk (or a whole group of them) in a DMV getting fired for handing out thousands of fake IDs. But I haven’t noticed much jail time associated with that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    My family in Chicago all held it as reasonable and accepted that no one actually took a driver's test for a license. You paid the clerk an extra $20 to $50, depending. You had to have a birth certificate but they didn't keep a copy so a well doctored up fake was fine, but it had to be presentable. They mailed the license to an address in the city, so if you knew anyone who would receive it and give it to you you were golden. They had Illinois licenses all their lives in addition to whatever state they were in. That way if they got their other license taken away they could still drive, at least out of the state where the license was revoked.


    A truck driver's license was $100. That was the only difference.
    I'm told it's now in four figures.

    Replies: @Busby

  13. @Detective Club
    Perhaps "Ground Zero" for politicians using Illegal Aliens to feather their own nest was good ole Lyndon Johnson.
    https://youtu.be/fjIBsVMIqhc
    In 1948, LBJ had just lost a close Democrat primary election for US Senate until "Box 13" suddenly turned up and was opened behind closed doors in Jim Wells County, Texas. Surprise, the "wet back" vote put "Landslide Lyndon" over the top! It goes without saying that Johnson really, really, really hated Eisenhower's Operation Wetback in 1953-1954. Those were good and trusty Dem. voters that that bastard GOP General was messin' with and sending back to Mexico! Those Mexicans might not have been the best but they were faithful Democrats, god damn it!

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @ic1000, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bubba, @Chiron

    I didn’t know the Box 13 story. This seems to be a loose transcript of the Mike DaSilva news clip that you linked.

    Via Google Books, “Lone Star Politics: Tradition and Transformation in Texas,” by Ken Collier, Steven Galatas, and Julie Harrelson-Stephens: “The poll lists showed that Box 13’s voters had signed in and voted in alphabetical order and in identical handwriting.”

    And here’s a fair-use excerpt of a NYT report that predates the Current Year, How Johnson Won Election He’d Lost, by Martin Tolchin, Feb. 11, 1990.

    [MORE]

    A study of Lyndon B. Johnson [”Means of Ascent” by Robert A. Caro] provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948… Mr. Caro maintains that although ballot fraud was common in the late 1940’s in some parts of Texas, the Johnson campaign of 1948 raised it to a new level…

    Mr. Caro goes into great detail to tell how the future President overcame a 20,000-vote deficit to achieve his famous 87-vote victory in the 1948 Democratic runoff primary against a former Governor, Coke Stevenson. A South Texas political boss, George Parr, had manufactured thousands of votes, Mr. Caro found…

    Johnson received the votes of the dead, the halt, the missing and those who were unaware that an election was going on.

    On primary night, a Saturday, the first tallies of the Democratic primary showed Johnson trailing his opponent by 20,000 votes. Still unreported, however, were the votes from San Antonio, where Stevenson had defeated Johnson 2 to 1 in the first primary. When those votes finally came in, Johnson had won a stunning victory, carrying San Antonio by 10,000 votes.

    Later that evening, the rural counties in the Rio Grande Valley further eroded the Stevenson lead, which was reduced to 854 votes. The next day, county officials ”discovered” that the returns from one precinct had not yet been counted, Mr. Caro said, and those votes went overwhelmingly to Johnson.

    On Monday, there were more new returns from the Rio Grande Valley. But on Tuesday, the state’s Election Bureau announced that complete returns had given Stevenson a 349-vote victory, with 40 votes still uncounted… On Friday, the Rio Grande Valley precincts made ”corrections” in their election returns, cutting Stevenson’s lead to 157. Also on Friday, Jim Wells County telephoned in its amended return. Johnson had won by 87 votes…

  14. I was in college when it started. I had a research job over the summer and my paychecks were not coming. The HR office was mystified. They could tell me they wouldn’t give me my checks but not why. I fought my way higher to a more competent person and we eventually discovered my checks were being held up because I had not filled in a form (which I had not been given) declaring that I was a citizen with the right to work in the US.

    So…uh…they tried, I guess

  15. No need to jail public officials. Here is all ICE needs to do:
    1) Show up at a couple of Vegas Casinos and a couple of Midwest meat packing plants and ask to see the proof of citizen/residency document that every employer is required to obtain from every employee. Next day at the very least bar all those with bad/no docs from working; better yet, arrest them all, and deport them immediately.
    2) Show up at high-end construction sites (luxury home, condos, etc.) in 10 – 15 Deep Blue areas (SF, NYC, Westchester, Miami, etc.) and do the same thing.
    Rinse and repeat.

    • Agree: Fredrik
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jim Don Bob

    Good idea but even better arrest every manager on site and then arrest upper management wherever they are the same day. Arrest them on Friday and move them around so they can't get bailed out till Monday afternoon.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Sgt. Joe Friday
    @Jim Don Bob

    I don't think there are too many illegals working in Vegas casinos. The amount of money that flows through those places demands that the employers be 100% sure of the identity of those working for them, and there are cameras everywhere.

    Replies: @bomag, @Anonymous, @Lot, @Alden

  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Matt Drudge Report is back to the same deception he used in the Bush era. While the hordes flood in he sprinkles headlines saying hundreds have been deported. Today:

    Feds Round Up 114 Nationals In Bold 11-day Sweep!

    Doesn’t that make you feel better? You nasty racist white person who wants the borders controlled. Go back to sleep.

    Truth is very little has changed under Trump. The invasion continues.

    • Agree: Bubba
  17. ic1000: If the Box 13 voters signed in and voted in alphabetical order in identical handwriting, that shows just how intelligent and organized these Latinos were. Clearly our betters and we were lucky to have them voting in our elections. And we still are.

    It must be like a step back in time for Mexicans voting in American elections, since when they vote in Mexican elections they must produce their Mexican voter ID cards with biomedical encriptions, while in California they have no need for even a drivers license. Going back and forth, voting in both countries, must get kind of confusing, but they seem to have the hang of it. Just vote PRI in Mexico and just vote Democrat in America.

  18. Janet Reno quashed a sealed indictment the INS was about to drop on Tyson Chicken.

    • Replies: @res
    @Jack Hanson

    Some background on Reno and Tyson Foods:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/counsel/smaltz/greenletter.html

    Tyson makes an interesting case study. Here is what happened after the administration changed: http://articles.latimes.com/2001/dec/20/news/mn-16761
    http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jan/25/news/mn-24708
    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/27/us/jury-clears-tyson-foods-in-use-of-illegal-immigrants.html

    Well, at least someone tried. Instructive to note at which point in all of this the NYT chimed in (per my searches anyway).

  19. A good start would be to start arresting and convicting the employers of illegals.

  20. @Detective Club
    Perhaps "Ground Zero" for politicians using Illegal Aliens to feather their own nest was good ole Lyndon Johnson.
    https://youtu.be/fjIBsVMIqhc
    In 1948, LBJ had just lost a close Democrat primary election for US Senate until "Box 13" suddenly turned up and was opened behind closed doors in Jim Wells County, Texas. Surprise, the "wet back" vote put "Landslide Lyndon" over the top! It goes without saying that Johnson really, really, really hated Eisenhower's Operation Wetback in 1953-1954. Those were good and trusty Dem. voters that that bastard GOP General was messin' with and sending back to Mexico! Those Mexicans might not have been the best but they were faithful Democrats, god damn it!

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @ic1000, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bubba, @Chiron

    If the country had payed more attention to Phyllis Schlafly back in 1964, we might have been spared a lot of the misery we’ve faced since then.

  21. @Ganderson
    I don't know about other states, but in Massachusetts public schools are required to educate anyone of school age who shows up- we are not allowed to inquire as to immigration status.

    Yes- you all read that correctly.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Alfa158, @HenryA, @Alden

    That’s the case nationwide since Phyllis v Dwyer I believe.

    • Replies: @Roderick Spode
    @Jack Hanson

    Phyllis v huh?

  22. @bomag

    How Many Public Officials Have Ever Been Jailed...
     
    Public officials enjoy a lot of immunity. Too much, in my opinion.

    I'm wondering if, as a form of protest, one could use citizen arrest as a push back. "Citizen arrest" Luis Gutierrez for breach of peace regarding his support of illegal immigration; promptly arrest him again after the courts inevitably release him; etc.

    Replies: @Lot

    Official immunity is very broad. Not enforcing public duties by itself is not illegal. Unless people are taking bribes it isn’t illegal.

    An illegal citizen’s arrest could get you prosecuted for assault, kidnapping, etc.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Lot


    Official immunity is very broad.
     
    If they are openly violating statutory law, e.g. immigration laws, there should be some traction.

    We need to take a page from the Left: line up venues with sympathetic prosecutors and judges, and set a few examples.

    Right now it is astonishingly backwards: illegal immigrant supporters perceive that they get more votes and money with that stand.

    Replies: @Lot

  23. @Ganderson
    I don't know about other states, but in Massachusetts public schools are required to educate anyone of school age who shows up- we are not allowed to inquire as to immigration status.

    Yes- you all read that correctly.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Alfa158, @HenryA, @Alden

    That’s the same everywhere. I think some Federal court decisions established that you could not turn anyone away from either schools or medical facilities based on immigration status.
    In Los Angeles, the school district has kids from Mexico who come from so far back in the boonies that they don’t speak Spanish, so the district needed to import people who could translate the Mayan based languages the kids spoke.

    • Replies: @Robert Hume
    @Alfa158

    Yes, I remember that in the late 60s I read about that supreme court decision. It seemed incredible to me at the time but there was almost no discussion of it after the initial announcement. I'd still like to know the logic of the actual decision.

    At the time I had no idea why all children were not asked for proof of legal residence and why, if none were provided, that the family was not investigated by the INS for deportation. After all, it's our tax dollars that are being used to educate the children.

  24. @AndrewR
    A crime is whatever powerful people say it is. Was anyone ever jailed for importing millions of Africans into the colonies and the US as scab chattel?

    Replies: @syonredux

    A crime is whatever powerful people say it is. Was anyone ever jailed for importing millions of Africans into the colonies and the US as scab chattel?

    Millions were imported into the New World, but only a tiny fraction ended up in mainland Angl0-America:

    The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.

    And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us/

    • Replies: @Skinhead
    @syonredux

    Ancestors hit the African lottery.


    And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.
     
  25. Trump should introduce a simple nationwide eVerify bill. It would give him a policy win, he’d have great talking points, and it would let him publicly define who’s a globalist and who isn’t.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Lugash

    Wasn't e verify done many years ago?

  26. Workplace raids are fine, but corps have good lawyers and the federal courts are very slow. At best we expensively make examples out of a few of the worst.

    The quick way to reduce the illegal population is not going after employers, but stop the creation of new illegals by denying entry to Africans and MENAS who likely overstay their visas or file BS asylum applications.

    Next is to take all countries off TPS.

    Finally locate the one million or so people who have defied a deportation order and offer them a choice of jail time or immediate removal. Lots of FBI wasting time tracking random ISIS facebook fans. But illegal muslim immigrants are real source of the problem and the sea jihadis swim in. FBI should be redirected to focus on finding as many immediately deportable people as possible.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Lot

    AFAIK the FBI has no Title 8 authority.

    , @Rod1963
    @Lot

    You don't realize most the companies who employ illegals are small to medium sized companies who cannot afford good legal talent - it would bankrupt them.

    The primary businesses that employ them are eateries, light manufacturing, auto shops, maid and cleaning services, yard maintenance, slaughter houses, fast food joints, etc. Easy to bust and easy to sick the IRS on because a lot of the illegals don't show up on any books. Get them on tax fraud as well.

    The big boys like Tyson and Hormel, you park a couple of ICE vans outside their processing centers every day for a week and randomly nab some illegals or simply have them photograph the cars and workers. Watch the workers vamoose.

    Replies: @Lot, @AB-

  27. @Achmed E. Newman
    President Trump, if he would just lay down the electronics and concentrate for bit, could order AG Jeff Sessions to do just that. There is no power for any judge to stop at least the arrests. I am not naive enough to believe that the people arrested would end up in any kind of jail or even get fined after it all plays out.

    However, this would be a great move for a coupla reasons:

    1) This would get Trump's base really psyched like he's never seen.

    2) He would put the fear of God into some of the lower-level bureaucrats that have been bucking the orders to enforce the law on immigration - they will figure that they may not have the entire lyin press and idiot judges ready to save them.

    3) The illegal aliens themselves make take this as a sign that the SHTF time for them is sooner rather than later and increase self-deportation. This may be up a bit now due to their fear of Trump enforcing the law, but it will wear off fairly soon if nothing serious gets done.

    Replies: @oddsbodkins

    That would be beautiful. He will never do it. Instead there will just be rallies and headline-grabbing small potatoes like the “Muslim ban” and pardoning Arpaio. Keep the base entertained without actually doing much.

  28. Has the number of comments fallen off here, and on unz in general, since the post Charlottesville purges began?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views.

    Replies: @Lot, @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @jim jones

  29. @Ganderson
    I don't know about other states, but in Massachusetts public schools are required to educate anyone of school age who shows up- we are not allowed to inquire as to immigration status.

    Yes- you all read that correctly.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Alfa158, @HenryA, @Alden

    This is the case in all fifty states since the Supreme Court’s 1982 Plyler v Doe decision. No public school anywhere may inquire as to the immigration status of a child and all illegal children are entitled to a free education. Having worked in a public school with lots of illegals I can tell you that they’re easy to spot since they never hand in the financial forms that determine eligibility for free lunches. Funny, we know they are and yet can do nothing about it.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @HenryA


    This is the case in all fifty states since the Supreme Court’s 1982 Plyler v Doe decision. No public school anywhere may inquire as to the immigration status of a child and all illegal children are entitled to a free education.
     
    That goes well beyond the holding of Plyler. I just went back through the opinion and didn't see anything about "asking", and there's certainly nothing requiring states to give them an education if the Feds want to deport them.
  30. @Jack Hanson
    Janet Reno quashed a sealed indictment the INS was about to drop on Tyson Chicken.

    Replies: @res

    Some background on Reno and Tyson Foods:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/counsel/smaltz/greenletter.html

    Tyson makes an interesting case study. Here is what happened after the administration changed: http://articles.latimes.com/2001/dec/20/news/mn-16761
    http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jan/25/news/mn-24708
    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/27/us/jury-clears-tyson-foods-in-use-of-illegal-immigrants.html

    Well, at least someone tried. Instructive to note at which point in all of this the NYT chimed in (per my searches anyway).

  31. @Lot
    Workplace raids are fine, but corps have good lawyers and the federal courts are very slow. At best we expensively make examples out of a few of the worst.

    The quick way to reduce the illegal population is not going after employers, but stop the creation of new illegals by denying entry to Africans and MENAS who likely overstay their visas or file BS asylum applications.

    Next is to take all countries off TPS.

    Finally locate the one million or so people who have defied a deportation order and offer them a choice of jail time or immediate removal. Lots of FBI wasting time tracking random ISIS facebook fans. But illegal muslim immigrants are real source of the problem and the sea jihadis swim in. FBI should be redirected to focus on finding as many immediately deportable people as possible.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Rod1963

    AFAIK the FBI has no Title 8 authority.

  32. Nope, no Judge would ever allow the arrest or even indictment of anyone violating the Zeroth Amendment. More to the point, no Judge anywhere would allow the opportunity to smack down Trump for even indicting an official or businessman or private organization that helps illegal immigration in violation of the law or openly and actively violates the law.

    Because the LAW is whatever a Judge says it is, backed by elite opinion. We do not live in a place like China, where the freedoms people in China take for granted simply don’t exist here. Instead, we live in a more gentle version of Pol Pot’s Cambodia. But the end destination is the same.

    It is CLASS **AND** Race war at the same time. A war of extermination. Guess who’s headed for the camps? It won’t be vibrant illegals, or vibrant gays, or vibrant Blacks, or vibrant White women (save Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin). Oh no. Just the Deplorables.

  33. @Alfa158
    @Ganderson

    That's the same everywhere. I think some Federal court decisions established that you could not turn anyone away from either schools or medical facilities based on immigration status.
    In Los Angeles, the school district has kids from Mexico who come from so far back in the boonies that they don't speak Spanish, so the district needed to import people who could translate the Mayan based languages the kids spoke.

    Replies: @Robert Hume

    Yes, I remember that in the late 60s I read about that supreme court decision. It seemed incredible to me at the time but there was almost no discussion of it after the initial announcement. I’d still like to know the logic of the actual decision.

    At the time I had no idea why all children were not asked for proof of legal residence and why, if none were provided, that the family was not investigated by the INS for deportation. After all, it’s our tax dollars that are being used to educate the children.

  34. @Ganderson
    I don't know about other states, but in Massachusetts public schools are required to educate anyone of school age who shows up- we are not allowed to inquire as to immigration status.

    Yes- you all read that correctly.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Alfa158, @HenryA, @Alden

    I believe it’s federal law and state and federal court decisions that in our system become law in every state. So every state school system must accept anyone.

    The school administrators and teachers love the immigrant invasions because more students means more money, more teaching and other education jobs and vast expansion.

    Every other business wants to expand. So does education.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Alden


    The school administrators and teachers love the immigrant invasions
     
    Don't forget that they get more compliant minds to train up in proper Goodthinking(tm).
  35. Border tunnel to San Diego found, mostly Chinese illegals arrested.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/san-diego-immigrant-smuggling-tunnel/index.html

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Lot

    Tunnel for smuggling illegal aliens from Mexico into the US? Puzzling, I didn't think border security was an issue.

    A couple of Saturdays back, I caught episode 613 of "This American Life." Act 1 is an apology by author Francisco Cantu for having enlisted in the Border Patrol (the subject of his upcoming book), because undocumented people can't be stopped, and mostly shouldn't anyway. Having recently read about the southern Mexican town of Nayarit's role in fanning the flames of the opiate addiction disaster (iSteve comment here), I was struck by one scene where Cantu has to round up a bunch of ordinary people in the Arizona desert. "[The fat kid] told me that he was 18, that he planned to go to Oregon to sell heroin."

    Apparently, this didn't strike Cantu or TAM's producer as terribly noteworthy, as of course they could have edited it out. Presumably, since none of the other Mexicans in the segment discuss their drug-dealing aspirations, we mustn't rush to judgement. On tunnels, walls, e-Verify, or much of anything else.

    Replies: @bomag

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Lot



    Border tunnel to San Diego found, mostly Chinese illegals arrested.

     

    So if you dig a hole deep enough, you can eventually get to China!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  36. @Detective Club
    Perhaps "Ground Zero" for politicians using Illegal Aliens to feather their own nest was good ole Lyndon Johnson.
    https://youtu.be/fjIBsVMIqhc
    In 1948, LBJ had just lost a close Democrat primary election for US Senate until "Box 13" suddenly turned up and was opened behind closed doors in Jim Wells County, Texas. Surprise, the "wet back" vote put "Landslide Lyndon" over the top! It goes without saying that Johnson really, really, really hated Eisenhower's Operation Wetback in 1953-1954. Those were good and trusty Dem. voters that that bastard GOP General was messin' with and sending back to Mexico! Those Mexicans might not have been the best but they were faithful Democrats, god damn it!

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @ic1000, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bubba, @Chiron

    LBJ’s “Stolen Valor” Silver Star is even more sickening. He was never in the military, but got a silver star when a military plane he was in came under fire in the Pacific. Then he started bragging on his Congressional campaign trail of the heroics he performed to earn it.

  37. OT, but who remembers those short months ago when Hillary Clinton was thought by many to be at death’s door as well as the leader of vast child sex trafficking network?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anonguy


    ... who remembers those short months ago when Hillary Clinton was thought by many to be at death’s door ...
     
    I'm guessing that since that time Death has installed double dead bolts and an alarm system and procured a double-barrel 12-guage. Nobody wants that crazy bitch getting near him, not even grim Death himself.
  38. During the migrant crisis in 2015, some Germans tried to bring charges against Merkel for treason. I’m not sure what came of it, but there’s a number of politicians in what remains of the Western world that should be held accountable for their actions. Unfortunately, most are too blase or lack the organization to bring forth a lawsuit against them.

  39. @Jim Don Bob
    No need to jail public officials. Here is all ICE needs to do:
    1) Show up at a couple of Vegas Casinos and a couple of Midwest meat packing plants and ask to see the proof of citizen/residency document that every employer is required to obtain from every employee. Next day at the very least bar all those with bad/no docs from working; better yet, arrest them all, and deport them immediately.
    2) Show up at high-end construction sites (luxury home, condos, etc.) in 10 - 15 Deep Blue areas (SF, NYC, Westchester, Miami, etc.) and do the same thing.
    Rinse and repeat.

    Replies: @Alden, @Sgt. Joe Friday

    Good idea but even better arrest every manager on site and then arrest upper management wherever they are the same day. Arrest them on Friday and move them around so they can’t get bailed out till Monday afternoon.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Alden


    Good idea but even better arrest every manager on site and then arrest upper management wherever they are the same day. Arrest them on Friday and move them around so they can’t get bailed out till Monday afternoon.
     
    Good idea. Make it hurt and it will stop. I'll let DJT know next time we text.

    Give me an ICE badge and I will do it myself.

    Replies: @Lot

  40. @Detective Club
    Perhaps "Ground Zero" for politicians using Illegal Aliens to feather their own nest was good ole Lyndon Johnson.
    https://youtu.be/fjIBsVMIqhc
    In 1948, LBJ had just lost a close Democrat primary election for US Senate until "Box 13" suddenly turned up and was opened behind closed doors in Jim Wells County, Texas. Surprise, the "wet back" vote put "Landslide Lyndon" over the top! It goes without saying that Johnson really, really, really hated Eisenhower's Operation Wetback in 1953-1954. Those were good and trusty Dem. voters that that bastard GOP General was messin' with and sending back to Mexico! Those Mexicans might not have been the best but they were faithful Democrats, god damn it!

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @ic1000, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bubba, @Chiron

    LBJ was a really evil bastard, he was the original Jewish puppet in Washington.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  41. @Peripatetic commenter
    Things look interesting for 2018:

    https://www.kidrockforsenate.com/

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    you need to think more bigly, friend-o.

    IVANKA/ROCK 2024

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    @BenKenobi

    Ivanka would be a disaster of Hillaryesqe proportions!

  42. Well, it may not be related to immigration or political officials, but somebody might be going to jail for this! Affirmative action stunt double hire died on set, apparently because she wasn’t properly prepared or trained. Sure to bring up some uncomfortable questions during the investigation, I would hope.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/deadpool-2-set-death-could-have-been-prevented-1031814

    • Replies: @res
    @al-Gharaniq

    I'm curious, does the stunt double have any responsibility to judge her own capabilities? Because AFAICT that article was all about how it was everybody else's fault.

    And can someone please explain this doublethink from the comments for me?


    Because they didn't hire her because of her race- they hired her because of her similar appearance to the star that she was the stunt double for- if the star was white they wouldn't have hired her...
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @ben tillman

    , @bomag
    @al-Gharaniq


    “If the movie’s producers had to go outside of the normal stunt community to find someone who was both qualified and resembles the actress, that speaks to a problem of lack of diversity of stunt performers,” says Darnell Hunt, the dean of Social Sciences at UCLA who helps produce the annual “Hollywood Diversity Report,” which comes out before the Oscars every year.
     
    What a no-win situation! Everyone on training wheels so we can have diversity, thus movies suck but feelz! has been satisfied.

    I ride off road motorcycles. I'm of above average skill, but the top guys are so far ahead of me that it is hilarious. And these top white guys set a standard so high for what people want to see, that few POC are competitive in the sport or capable of doing these stunts. Yet we are supposed to believe that someone can be ushered in, told biology is a social construct, and do all the fancy stuff.
  43. @Maj. Kong
    Amendment Zero overrides all other laws.


    White conservatives are a powerless and despised minority in California, and that is the goal the globalist elite have for the rest of our lands.

    Replies: @Rod1963

    Look, it’s been well known for a very long time if you want to stop illegal.immigration you jail the people who hire them and it stops.

    And who writes the laws? Chamber of Commerce and other like minded organizations. All of whom are pro illegal alien.

    This is why the problem is never directly dealt with. Instead we get kabuki theater where Sessions rounds up some MS-13 psychopaths and some others.

    All of it boils down to this: We really have no say in how the country is run. We are given the illusion that have a say but that’s it.

    • Agree: Kevin C.
  44. The answer to Steve’s question is likely “zero” and that is the number it will likely stay at. The elite do not jail each other unless they have an opportunity to do so as a political vendetta or to establish an impression of oversight (e.g., Bernie M after 2008) when the rabble is getting rowdy.

  45. @Lot
    @bomag

    Official immunity is very broad. Not enforcing public duties by itself is not illegal. Unless people are taking bribes it isn't illegal.

    An illegal citizen's arrest could get you prosecuted for assault, kidnapping, etc.

    Replies: @bomag

    Official immunity is very broad.

    If they are openly violating statutory law, e.g. immigration laws, there should be some traction.

    We need to take a page from the Left: line up venues with sympathetic prosecutors and judges, and set a few examples.

    Right now it is astonishingly backwards: illegal immigrant supporters perceive that they get more votes and money with that stand.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @bomag

    "If they are openly violating statutory law, e.g. immigration laws, there should be some traction."

    Trust me here, citizens arrest of public officials is not the way to go. By all means do learn these rules so if you are ever in a position to do a lawful citizen arrest you do it completely right.

    "We need to take a page from the Left: line up venues with sympathetic prosecutors and judges, and set a few examples."

    Ed Blum is the master of pro middle America cases that have an actual chance of winning. He plans them out for years, looking for the perfect plaintiff in the perfect conservative judge district.

    Another is www.cir-usa.org. Ann Coulter worked there before she was famous. They and Blum have done 3/4 of the big cases against AA the past 20 years on a shoestring budget.

    CIR also does some low profile work like when a random high school kid gets suspended for a confederate flag clothing or other mildly non-PC speech. Mostly they just let the school district know the parents have a lawyer and know their rights, but they will sue and win if a quiet resolution fails.

    Replies: @bomag

  46. @Lot
    Workplace raids are fine, but corps have good lawyers and the federal courts are very slow. At best we expensively make examples out of a few of the worst.

    The quick way to reduce the illegal population is not going after employers, but stop the creation of new illegals by denying entry to Africans and MENAS who likely overstay their visas or file BS asylum applications.

    Next is to take all countries off TPS.

    Finally locate the one million or so people who have defied a deportation order and offer them a choice of jail time or immediate removal. Lots of FBI wasting time tracking random ISIS facebook fans. But illegal muslim immigrants are real source of the problem and the sea jihadis swim in. FBI should be redirected to focus on finding as many immediately deportable people as possible.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Rod1963

    You don’t realize most the companies who employ illegals are small to medium sized companies who cannot afford good legal talent – it would bankrupt them.

    The primary businesses that employ them are eateries, light manufacturing, auto shops, maid and cleaning services, yard maintenance, slaughter houses, fast food joints, etc. Easy to bust and easy to sick the IRS on because a lot of the illegals don’t show up on any books. Get them on tax fraud as well.

    The big boys like Tyson and Hormel, you park a couple of ICE vans outside their processing centers every day for a week and randomly nab some illegals or simply have them photograph the cars and workers. Watch the workers vamoose.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Rod1963

    I like just showing up with a van to scare them away. Make illegal labor less reliable.

    I've been reading that meat processing is hiring a lot of Somalis. Any Somali who shows up here can immediately get a work permit as long as Trump keeps it on the TPS list.

    Regarding lawyers, federal crimes tend to have absurd minimum sentences. People facing federal charges thus find a way to raise the $200,000 they need. The federal public defenders are much better than state ones. Overall it seems arbitrary and unfair to throw the book at random illegal employers. If half of the 11 million illegals have jobs, that means there are likely millions of illegal employers. Though between DACA and TPS and lot of illegals have work permits now. Prosecuting 1 in 1000 of them would be a huge undertaking and probably not be all that effective.

    Scaring employers by sending out no match letters for illegals' fake SSNs was a very effective practice that got businesses pushing back and calling their congressmen.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @AB-
    @Rod1963

    "you park a couple of ICE vans outside their processing centers every day for a week and randomly nab some illegals or simply have them photograph the cars and workers. Watch the workers vamoose"

    Guy I used to work with was a Mazda factory rep in SoCal. Whenever they suspected a dealer was cheating on warranty repairs and other stunts, but they didn't have a smoking gun yet, 4 of them would get dressed in white dress shirts, suits and ties, and then roll into the service department.

    They'd do it fast, so the tires would be squealing and get everybody's attention, then all 4 would jump out of the car. Half the shop would take off running, not to be seen until next week. If then.

    Usually one time was all the dealer needed to clean up his act....

    Getting back on topic about politicians breaking the law, the hate filled leftys in the Bay Area attacking the timid right. The mayors and police chiefs are on record that they are ordering the cops to disarm any of the timid right, but when 100+ of the hate filled leftys decide to attack, the cops just head back to the coffee and donuts and watch.

    ALL the politicians in the BA are hard left, so they see these beatings as a message to the timid right to NEVER, EVER, show their face in the BA ever again. Until they get over the timid part, the right should stay out....but even if they do get less timid, the entire establishment will hang them and do nothing to the HFL. So best to just not go there...

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  47. @Jim Don Bob
    No need to jail public officials. Here is all ICE needs to do:
    1) Show up at a couple of Vegas Casinos and a couple of Midwest meat packing plants and ask to see the proof of citizen/residency document that every employer is required to obtain from every employee. Next day at the very least bar all those with bad/no docs from working; better yet, arrest them all, and deport them immediately.
    2) Show up at high-end construction sites (luxury home, condos, etc.) in 10 - 15 Deep Blue areas (SF, NYC, Westchester, Miami, etc.) and do the same thing.
    Rinse and repeat.

    Replies: @Alden, @Sgt. Joe Friday

    I don’t think there are too many illegals working in Vegas casinos. The amount of money that flows through those places demands that the employers be 100% sure of the identity of those working for them, and there are cameras everywhere.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Sgt. Joe Friday


    casinos...
     
    I'm sure the illegals are cleaning and doing food service away from the public eye.

    But if the busts happen to drag them through the gaming plaza...

    , @Anonymous
    @Sgt. Joe Friday

    The casino is one thing, the hotel is another.

    , @Lot
    @Sgt. Joe Friday

    The big casinos are also mostly unionized. It isn't impossible for an illegal to get a union job, but they are high wage and limited in number, so they risk getting ratted out so some other employee can get her sister a gig.

    , @Alden
    @Sgt. Joe Friday

    Very few employees actually handle cash. That's why they use chips. The money's all locked up in the cashier's cages and the vaults. Only a few very trusted employees get near it.

  48. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    @Jim Don Bob

    I don't think there are too many illegals working in Vegas casinos. The amount of money that flows through those places demands that the employers be 100% sure of the identity of those working for them, and there are cameras everywhere.

    Replies: @bomag, @Anonymous, @Lot, @Alden

    casinos…

    I’m sure the illegals are cleaning and doing food service away from the public eye.

    But if the busts happen to drag them through the gaming plaza…

  49. @Lot
    Border tunnel to San Diego found, mostly Chinese illegals arrested.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/san-diego-immigrant-smuggling-tunnel/index.html

    Replies: @ic1000, @Hippopotamusdrome

    Tunnel for smuggling illegal aliens from Mexico into the US? Puzzling, I didn’t think border security was an issue.

    A couple of Saturdays back, I caught episode 613 of “This American Life.” Act 1 is an apology by author Francisco Cantu for having enlisted in the Border Patrol (the subject of his upcoming book), because undocumented people can’t be stopped, and mostly shouldn’t anyway. Having recently read about the southern Mexican town of Nayarit’s role in fanning the flames of the opiate addiction disaster (iSteve comment here), I was struck by one scene where Cantu has to round up a bunch of ordinary people in the Arizona desert. “[The fat kid] told me that he was 18, that he planned to go to Oregon to sell heroin.”

    Apparently, this didn’t strike Cantu or TAM’s producer as terribly noteworthy, as of course they could have edited it out. Presumably, since none of the other Mexicans in the segment discuss their drug-dealing aspirations, we mustn’t rush to judgement. On tunnels, walls, e-Verify, or much of anything else.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @ic1000


    “[The fat kid] told me that he was 18, that he planned to go to Oregon to sell heroin.”
     
    This American Life chronicling America's decline. Nice.

    One of the few episodes I caught dealt with honesty, and they had a segment about a family of illegals lying their way into the country.
  50. @Anon
    Has the number of comments fallen off here, and on unz in general, since the post Charlottesville purges began?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Steve Sailer

    For you or Unz, any other interesting site stats?

    Like: biggest blog or MSM referral link? Drudge ever blow up the site with a million hits?

    Most viewed articles?

    Most unique commentors on an article?

    What Euro countries read the site most per capita?

    , @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @Steve Sailer

    Anon: "Has the number of comments fallen off here, and on unz in general, since the post Charlottesville purges began?"
    Steve: "No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views."

    Uh, Steve, that wasn't the question. The question was: Have people been intimidated out of (identifiably) commenting? Page views measure only the number of spectators, who might not be Google-identifiable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    , @jim jones
    @Steve Sailer

    Alexa says the site is booming:

    http://imgur.com/a/fyOLg

    Replies: @res, @AB-

  51. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    It's not unusual to hear about some clerk (or a whole group of them) in a DMV getting fired for handing out thousands of fake IDs. But I haven't noticed much jail time associated with that.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    My family in Chicago all held it as reasonable and accepted that no one actually took a driver’s test for a license. You paid the clerk an extra $20 to $50, depending. You had to have a birth certificate but they didn’t keep a copy so a well doctored up fake was fine, but it had to be presentable. They mailed the license to an address in the city, so if you knew anyone who would receive it and give it to you you were golden. They had Illinois licenses all their lives in addition to whatever state they were in. That way if they got their other license taken away they could still drive, at least out of the state where the license was revoked.

    A truck driver’s license was $100. That was the only difference.
    I’m told it’s now in four figures.

    • Replies: @Busby
    @Anonymous

    Commercial truck driver (CDL) holders are recorded in two national data bases. You haven't been able to maintain more than one state license since about 1988.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  52. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    @Jim Don Bob

    I don't think there are too many illegals working in Vegas casinos. The amount of money that flows through those places demands that the employers be 100% sure of the identity of those working for them, and there are cameras everywhere.

    Replies: @bomag, @Anonymous, @Lot, @Alden

    The casino is one thing, the hotel is another.

  53. @Alden
    @Ganderson

    I believe it's federal law and state and federal court decisions that in our system become law in every state. So every state school system must accept anyone.

    The school administrators and teachers love the immigrant invasions because more students means more money, more teaching and other education jobs and vast expansion.

    Every other business wants to expand. So does education.

    Replies: @bomag

    The school administrators and teachers love the immigrant invasions

    Don’t forget that they get more compliant minds to train up in proper Goodthinking(tm).

  54. @ic1000
    @Lot

    Tunnel for smuggling illegal aliens from Mexico into the US? Puzzling, I didn't think border security was an issue.

    A couple of Saturdays back, I caught episode 613 of "This American Life." Act 1 is an apology by author Francisco Cantu for having enlisted in the Border Patrol (the subject of his upcoming book), because undocumented people can't be stopped, and mostly shouldn't anyway. Having recently read about the southern Mexican town of Nayarit's role in fanning the flames of the opiate addiction disaster (iSteve comment here), I was struck by one scene where Cantu has to round up a bunch of ordinary people in the Arizona desert. "[The fat kid] told me that he was 18, that he planned to go to Oregon to sell heroin."

    Apparently, this didn't strike Cantu or TAM's producer as terribly noteworthy, as of course they could have edited it out. Presumably, since none of the other Mexicans in the segment discuss their drug-dealing aspirations, we mustn't rush to judgement. On tunnels, walls, e-Verify, or much of anything else.

    Replies: @bomag

    “[The fat kid] told me that he was 18, that he planned to go to Oregon to sell heroin.”

    This American Life chronicling America’s decline. Nice.

    One of the few episodes I caught dealt with honesty, and they had a segment about a family of illegals lying their way into the country.

  55. @Alden
    @Jim Don Bob

    Good idea but even better arrest every manager on site and then arrest upper management wherever they are the same day. Arrest them on Friday and move them around so they can't get bailed out till Monday afternoon.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Good idea but even better arrest every manager on site and then arrest upper management wherever they are the same day. Arrest them on Friday and move them around so they can’t get bailed out till Monday afternoon.

    Good idea. Make it hurt and it will stop. I’ll let DJT know next time we text.

    Give me an ICE badge and I will do it myself.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Jim Don Bob

    "Give me an ICE badge and I will do it myself."


    https://www.usajobs.gov/Search/?k=Immigration+

    They are hiring for hundreds of positions. Excellent benefits and retirement. According to the progs, ICE is the most based and "fascist" part of the US gov and was "lawless" and "out of control" when Obama was president.

  56. @al-Gharaniq
    Well, it may not be related to immigration or political officials, but somebody might be going to jail for this! Affirmative action stunt double hire died on set, apparently because she wasn't properly prepared or trained. Sure to bring up some uncomfortable questions during the investigation, I would hope.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/deadpool-2-set-death-could-have-been-prevented-1031814

    Replies: @res, @bomag

    I’m curious, does the stunt double have any responsibility to judge her own capabilities? Because AFAICT that article was all about how it was everybody else’s fault.

    And can someone please explain this doublethink from the comments for me?

    Because they didn’t hire her because of her race- they hired her because of her similar appearance to the star that she was the stunt double for- if the star was white they wouldn’t have hired her…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @res

    I expect she was wearing a helmet in the scene. Unless both the stuntwoman and the actress have steatopygia I fail to see what race has to do with it.

    , @ben tillman
    @res


    I’m curious, does the stunt double have any responsibility to judge her own capabilities? Because AFAICT that article was all about how it was everybody else’s fault.
     
    You sure said a mouthful there, partner.
  57. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views.

    Replies: @Lot, @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @jim jones

    For you or Unz, any other interesting site stats?

    Like: biggest blog or MSM referral link? Drudge ever blow up the site with a million hits?

    Most viewed articles?

    Most unique commentors on an article?

    What Euro countries read the site most per capita?

  58. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views.

    Replies: @Lot, @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @jim jones

    Anon: “Has the number of comments fallen off here, and on unz in general, since the post Charlottesville purges began?”
    Steve: “No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views.”

    Uh, Steve, that wasn’t the question. The question was: Have people been intimidated out of (identifiably) commenting? Page views measure only the number of spectators, who might not be Google-identifiable.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    No, at present we're on track to be the first month to have more than 20,000 comments, although the late summer doldrums I expect this week might mean we fall just short.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    , @Brutusale
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Comments per story may be down, as Steve is cranking them out like a ferret on meth.

    Steve, I think it's time for decaf!

  59. @Jim Don Bob
    @Alden


    Good idea but even better arrest every manager on site and then arrest upper management wherever they are the same day. Arrest them on Friday and move them around so they can’t get bailed out till Monday afternoon.
     
    Good idea. Make it hurt and it will stop. I'll let DJT know next time we text.

    Give me an ICE badge and I will do it myself.

    Replies: @Lot

    “Give me an ICE badge and I will do it myself.”

    https://www.usajobs.gov/Search/?k=Immigration+

    They are hiring for hundreds of positions. Excellent benefits and retirement. According to the progs, ICE is the most based and “fascist” part of the US gov and was “lawless” and “out of control” when Obama was president.

  60. @bomag
    @Lot


    Official immunity is very broad.
     
    If they are openly violating statutory law, e.g. immigration laws, there should be some traction.

    We need to take a page from the Left: line up venues with sympathetic prosecutors and judges, and set a few examples.

    Right now it is astonishingly backwards: illegal immigrant supporters perceive that they get more votes and money with that stand.

    Replies: @Lot

    “If they are openly violating statutory law, e.g. immigration laws, there should be some traction.”

    Trust me here, citizens arrest of public officials is not the way to go. By all means do learn these rules so if you are ever in a position to do a lawful citizen arrest you do it completely right.

    “We need to take a page from the Left: line up venues with sympathetic prosecutors and judges, and set a few examples.”

    Ed Blum is the master of pro middle America cases that have an actual chance of winning. He plans them out for years, looking for the perfect plaintiff in the perfect conservative judge district.

    Another is http://www.cir-usa.org. Ann Coulter worked there before she was famous. They and Blum have done 3/4 of the big cases against AA the past 20 years on a shoestring budget.

    CIR also does some low profile work like when a random high school kid gets suspended for a confederate flag clothing or other mildly non-PC speech. Mostly they just let the school district know the parents have a lawyer and know their rights, but they will sue and win if a quiet resolution fails.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Lot

    Thanks for the info.

    I've been dwelling a bit on direct citizen action; it seems like we had more of it in the past (lynchings, etc) before police became more professional. The literature of 100 years ago (+/-) had more references to getting your buddies together to settle a score. Maybe officials are not as afraid of popular opinion as they should be.

    If officialdom gets captured by interests so narrow that a large majority of people are alienated, what is the best course for repair? Pitchforks and clubs?

    Vox populi, vox dei.

  61. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    @Jim Don Bob

    I don't think there are too many illegals working in Vegas casinos. The amount of money that flows through those places demands that the employers be 100% sure of the identity of those working for them, and there are cameras everywhere.

    Replies: @bomag, @Anonymous, @Lot, @Alden

    The big casinos are also mostly unionized. It isn’t impossible for an illegal to get a union job, but they are high wage and limited in number, so they risk getting ratted out so some other employee can get her sister a gig.

  62. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @Steve Sailer

    Anon: "Has the number of comments fallen off here, and on unz in general, since the post Charlottesville purges began?"
    Steve: "No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views."

    Uh, Steve, that wasn't the question. The question was: Have people been intimidated out of (identifiably) commenting? Page views measure only the number of spectators, who might not be Google-identifiable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    No, at present we’re on track to be the first month to have more than 20,000 comments, although the late summer doldrums I expect this week might mean we fall just short.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Steve Sailer

    Don't worry, Steve.

    I'll help.

  63. @syonredux
    @AndrewR


    A crime is whatever powerful people say it is. Was anyone ever jailed for importing millions of Africans into the colonies and the US as scab chattel?
     
    Millions were imported into the New World, but only a tiny fraction ended up in mainland Angl0-America:

    The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.

    And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.
     
    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us/

    Replies: @Skinhead

    Ancestors hit the African lottery.

    And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

  64. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    My family in Chicago all held it as reasonable and accepted that no one actually took a driver's test for a license. You paid the clerk an extra $20 to $50, depending. You had to have a birth certificate but they didn't keep a copy so a well doctored up fake was fine, but it had to be presentable. They mailed the license to an address in the city, so if you knew anyone who would receive it and give it to you you were golden. They had Illinois licenses all their lives in addition to whatever state they were in. That way if they got their other license taken away they could still drive, at least out of the state where the license was revoked.


    A truck driver's license was $100. That was the only difference.
    I'm told it's now in four figures.

    Replies: @Busby

    Commercial truck driver (CDL) holders are recorded in two national data bases. You haven’t been able to maintain more than one state license since about 1988.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Busby

    Right, you cann not have more than one CDL in any of the 50 states-
    under the same name, DOB and SSN.




    But you can damn sure have your one CDL be in Illinois and the Feds do not enforce how Illinois issues them.

    And if you are Muhammad al-Masuri, you can bet that MOhammed El-MassurEY is a different person. Right??



    Sure.

    Replies: @Corn

  65. @BenKenobi
    @Peripatetic commenter

    you need to think more bigly, friend-o.

    IVANKA/ROCK 2024

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter

    Ivanka would be a disaster of Hillaryesqe proportions!

  66. @Steve Sailer
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    No, at present we're on track to be the first month to have more than 20,000 comments, although the late summer doldrums I expect this week might mean we fall just short.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    Don’t worry, Steve.

    I’ll help.

  67. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @Steve Sailer

    Anon: "Has the number of comments fallen off here, and on unz in general, since the post Charlottesville purges began?"
    Steve: "No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views."

    Uh, Steve, that wasn't the question. The question was: Have people been intimidated out of (identifiably) commenting? Page views measure only the number of spectators, who might not be Google-identifiable.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    Comments per story may be down, as Steve is cranking them out like a ferret on meth.

    Steve, I think it’s time for decaf!

  68. Government is working for NWO and some enemy countries. The goal is the destruction of USA, balkanization. The new rulers of the world will be brown peoople like Mexicans, if other nations dont stop them.

  69. @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    "But workplace enforcement was gutted by the simple expedient of employers of illegal aliens calling Congressmen they donated to and demanding that their Congressman get the INS to back off."
    A link to a report on this part of the story - presumably to vdare.com? - would be nice.

    Replies: @FPD72

    What “gutted” the 1986 immigration bill were the regulations that not only failed to require employers to verify identification documents but actually prohibited them from doing so. Employers were required to accept documents at face value, no matter how dubious they might have appeared.

    The mandatory use of E-Verify, combined with stiff enforcement, would go a long way toward getting control of the border. Nothing like watching illegals being herded onto a border bound bus while their employer is perp walked in handcuffs to an awaiting law enforcement vehicle on their way to the federal building for arraignment.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  70. @Jack Hanson
    @Ganderson

    That's the case nationwide since Phyllis v Dwyer I believe.

    Replies: @Roderick Spode

    Phyllis v huh?

  71. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Busby
    @Anonymous

    Commercial truck driver (CDL) holders are recorded in two national data bases. You haven't been able to maintain more than one state license since about 1988.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Right, you cann not have more than one CDL in any of the 50 states-
    under the same name, DOB and SSN.

    But you can damn sure have your one CDL be in Illinois and the Feds do not enforce how Illinois issues them.

    And if you are Muhammad al-Masuri, you can bet that MOhammed El-MassurEY is a different person. Right??

    Sure.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Anonymous

    I don't know how one obtains an improper driver's license or CDL from a crooked DMV employee, since I'm not crooked myself. That said, back in '98 or '99 there was a big scandal here in Illinois where a trucker driving on a CDL he shouldn't have had crashed and killed a carload of people. That started the chain of events that later put our governor George Ryan in prison. Bribing a DMV employee for a CDL is surely MUCH more expensive in IL now than it was 20 or 30 years ago.

  72. @res
    @al-Gharaniq

    I'm curious, does the stunt double have any responsibility to judge her own capabilities? Because AFAICT that article was all about how it was everybody else's fault.

    And can someone please explain this doublethink from the comments for me?


    Because they didn't hire her because of her race- they hired her because of her similar appearance to the star that she was the stunt double for- if the star was white they wouldn't have hired her...
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @ben tillman

    I expect she was wearing a helmet in the scene. Unless both the stuntwoman and the actress have steatopygia I fail to see what race has to do with it.

  73. @Rod1963
    @Lot

    You don't realize most the companies who employ illegals are small to medium sized companies who cannot afford good legal talent - it would bankrupt them.

    The primary businesses that employ them are eateries, light manufacturing, auto shops, maid and cleaning services, yard maintenance, slaughter houses, fast food joints, etc. Easy to bust and easy to sick the IRS on because a lot of the illegals don't show up on any books. Get them on tax fraud as well.

    The big boys like Tyson and Hormel, you park a couple of ICE vans outside their processing centers every day for a week and randomly nab some illegals or simply have them photograph the cars and workers. Watch the workers vamoose.

    Replies: @Lot, @AB-

    I like just showing up with a van to scare them away. Make illegal labor less reliable.

    I’ve been reading that meat processing is hiring a lot of Somalis. Any Somali who shows up here can immediately get a work permit as long as Trump keeps it on the TPS list.

    Regarding lawyers, federal crimes tend to have absurd minimum sentences. People facing federal charges thus find a way to raise the $200,000 they need. The federal public defenders are much better than state ones. Overall it seems arbitrary and unfair to throw the book at random illegal employers. If half of the 11 million illegals have jobs, that means there are likely millions of illegal employers. Though between DACA and TPS and lot of illegals have work permits now. Prosecuting 1 in 1000 of them would be a huge undertaking and probably not be all that effective.

    Scaring employers by sending out no match letters for illegals’ fake SSNs was a very effective practice that got businesses pushing back and calling their congressmen.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Lot

    I think it's a great idea to go after random employers of illegals.

  74. @Lot
    Border tunnel to San Diego found, mostly Chinese illegals arrested.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/san-diego-immigrant-smuggling-tunnel/index.html

    Replies: @ic1000, @Hippopotamusdrome

    Border tunnel to San Diego found, mostly Chinese illegals arrested.

    So if you dig a hole deep enough, you can eventually get to China!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Haha! Good one, Hippo.

  75. A country needs its myth-makers and lawmakers to be on the same page.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Harold

    Unfortunately, in the current year, it's the meth-makers and lawmakers.

  76. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    No, headed for biggest month ever in terms of page views.

    Replies: @Lot, @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @jim jones

    Alexa says the site is booming:

    View post on imgur.com

    • Replies: @res
    @jim jones

    Is that for all of unz.com or just unz.com/isteve?

    , @AB-
    @jim jones

    Why does the Alexa graph invert the vertical axis numbers; if that's correct, then the visits are at an all time low.

    It's not just this graph, I've seen it before with Alexa.....

    Replies: @EriK

  77. With respect to the entire anti-European movement, the elephant in the room is the system of common law that was bestowed upon all societies that Europeans have crossed cultures with. The entire anti-European movement agenda is to overthrow centuries upon centuries of historical precedent and rewrite the legal system – operating system – of modern society.

    That is the end game and everything else is pretext.

  78. @Harold
    A country needs its myth-makers and lawmakers to be on the same page.

    Replies: @Lurker

    Unfortunately, in the current year, it’s the meth-makers and lawmakers.

  79. @Lot
    @bomag

    "If they are openly violating statutory law, e.g. immigration laws, there should be some traction."

    Trust me here, citizens arrest of public officials is not the way to go. By all means do learn these rules so if you are ever in a position to do a lawful citizen arrest you do it completely right.

    "We need to take a page from the Left: line up venues with sympathetic prosecutors and judges, and set a few examples."

    Ed Blum is the master of pro middle America cases that have an actual chance of winning. He plans them out for years, looking for the perfect plaintiff in the perfect conservative judge district.

    Another is www.cir-usa.org. Ann Coulter worked there before she was famous. They and Blum have done 3/4 of the big cases against AA the past 20 years on a shoestring budget.

    CIR also does some low profile work like when a random high school kid gets suspended for a confederate flag clothing or other mildly non-PC speech. Mostly they just let the school district know the parents have a lawyer and know their rights, but they will sue and win if a quiet resolution fails.

    Replies: @bomag

    Thanks for the info.

    I’ve been dwelling a bit on direct citizen action; it seems like we had more of it in the past (lynchings, etc) before police became more professional. The literature of 100 years ago (+/-) had more references to getting your buddies together to settle a score. Maybe officials are not as afraid of popular opinion as they should be.

    If officialdom gets captured by interests so narrow that a large majority of people are alienated, what is the best course for repair? Pitchforks and clubs?

    Vox populi, vox dei.

  80. @Anonymous
    @Busby

    Right, you cann not have more than one CDL in any of the 50 states-
    under the same name, DOB and SSN.




    But you can damn sure have your one CDL be in Illinois and the Feds do not enforce how Illinois issues them.

    And if you are Muhammad al-Masuri, you can bet that MOhammed El-MassurEY is a different person. Right??



    Sure.

    Replies: @Corn

    I don’t know how one obtains an improper driver’s license or CDL from a crooked DMV employee, since I’m not crooked myself. That said, back in ’98 or ’99 there was a big scandal here in Illinois where a trucker driving on a CDL he shouldn’t have had crashed and killed a carload of people. That started the chain of events that later put our governor George Ryan in prison. Bribing a DMV employee for a CDL is surely MUCH more expensive in IL now than it was 20 or 30 years ago.

  81. @al-Gharaniq
    Well, it may not be related to immigration or political officials, but somebody might be going to jail for this! Affirmative action stunt double hire died on set, apparently because she wasn't properly prepared or trained. Sure to bring up some uncomfortable questions during the investigation, I would hope.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/deadpool-2-set-death-could-have-been-prevented-1031814

    Replies: @res, @bomag

    “If the movie’s producers had to go outside of the normal stunt community to find someone who was both qualified and resembles the actress, that speaks to a problem of lack of diversity of stunt performers,” says Darnell Hunt, the dean of Social Sciences at UCLA who helps produce the annual “Hollywood Diversity Report,” which comes out before the Oscars every year.

    What a no-win situation! Everyone on training wheels so we can have diversity, thus movies suck but feelz! has been satisfied.

    I ride off road motorcycles. I’m of above average skill, but the top guys are so far ahead of me that it is hilarious. And these top white guys set a standard so high for what people want to see, that few POC are competitive in the sport or capable of doing these stunts. Yet we are supposed to believe that someone can be ushered in, told biology is a social construct, and do all the fancy stuff.

  82. @jim jones
    @Steve Sailer

    Alexa says the site is booming:

    http://imgur.com/a/fyOLg

    Replies: @res, @AB-

    Is that for all of unz.com or just unz.com/isteve?

  83. @Rod1963
    @Lot

    You don't realize most the companies who employ illegals are small to medium sized companies who cannot afford good legal talent - it would bankrupt them.

    The primary businesses that employ them are eateries, light manufacturing, auto shops, maid and cleaning services, yard maintenance, slaughter houses, fast food joints, etc. Easy to bust and easy to sick the IRS on because a lot of the illegals don't show up on any books. Get them on tax fraud as well.

    The big boys like Tyson and Hormel, you park a couple of ICE vans outside their processing centers every day for a week and randomly nab some illegals or simply have them photograph the cars and workers. Watch the workers vamoose.

    Replies: @Lot, @AB-

    “you park a couple of ICE vans outside their processing centers every day for a week and randomly nab some illegals or simply have them photograph the cars and workers. Watch the workers vamoose”

    Guy I used to work with was a Mazda factory rep in SoCal. Whenever they suspected a dealer was cheating on warranty repairs and other stunts, but they didn’t have a smoking gun yet, 4 of them would get dressed in white dress shirts, suits and ties, and then roll into the service department.

    They’d do it fast, so the tires would be squealing and get everybody’s attention, then all 4 would jump out of the car. Half the shop would take off running, not to be seen until next week. If then.

    Usually one time was all the dealer needed to clean up his act….

    Getting back on topic about politicians breaking the law, the hate filled leftys in the Bay Area attacking the timid right. The mayors and police chiefs are on record that they are ordering the cops to disarm any of the timid right, but when 100+ of the hate filled leftys decide to attack, the cops just head back to the coffee and donuts and watch.

    ALL the politicians in the BA are hard left, so they see these beatings as a message to the timid right to NEVER, EVER, show their face in the BA ever again. Until they get over the timid part, the right should stay out….but even if they do get less timid, the entire establishment will hang them and do nothing to the HFL. So best to just not go there…

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @AB-

    Great story. Thanks.

    Where are Just Some Cop and Baltimore Teacher these days?

  84. @jim jones
    @Steve Sailer

    Alexa says the site is booming:

    http://imgur.com/a/fyOLg

    Replies: @res, @AB-

    Why does the Alexa graph invert the vertical axis numbers; if that’s correct, then the visits are at an all time low.

    It’s not just this graph, I’ve seen it before with Alexa…..

    • Replies: @EriK
    @AB-

    It's the Alexa rating (lower rating means more visited) not the number of visits.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  85. @anonguy
    OT, but who remembers those short months ago when Hillary Clinton was thought by many to be at death's door as well as the leader of vast child sex trafficking network?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    … who remembers those short months ago when Hillary Clinton was thought by many to be at death’s door …

    I’m guessing that since that time Death has installed double dead bolts and an alarm system and procured a double-barrel 12-guage. Nobody wants that crazy bitch getting near him, not even grim Death himself.

    • LOL: TomSchmidt
  86. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Lot



    Border tunnel to San Diego found, mostly Chinese illegals arrested.

     

    So if you dig a hole deep enough, you can eventually get to China!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Haha! Good one, Hippo.

  87. @HenryA
    @Ganderson

    This is the case in all fifty states since the Supreme Court's 1982 Plyler v Doe decision. No public school anywhere may inquire as to the immigration status of a child and all illegal children are entitled to a free education. Having worked in a public school with lots of illegals I can tell you that they're easy to spot since they never hand in the financial forms that determine eligibility for free lunches. Funny, we know they are and yet can do nothing about it.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    This is the case in all fifty states since the Supreme Court’s 1982 Plyler v Doe decision. No public school anywhere may inquire as to the immigration status of a child and all illegal children are entitled to a free education.

    That goes well beyond the holding of Plyler. I just went back through the opinion and didn’t see anything about “asking”, and there’s certainly nothing requiring states to give them an education if the Feds want to deport them.

  88. @AB-
    @jim jones

    Why does the Alexa graph invert the vertical axis numbers; if that's correct, then the visits are at an all time low.

    It's not just this graph, I've seen it before with Alexa.....

    Replies: @EriK

    It’s the Alexa rating (lower rating means more visited) not the number of visits.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @EriK

    Alexa reports ranks, not traffic. I presume they do that to get around questions of what % of all traffic they can claim to measure: Well, in our sample, your website is the 12,345th biggest (or whatever).

    Replies: @EriK

  89. @EriK
    @AB-

    It's the Alexa rating (lower rating means more visited) not the number of visits.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Alexa reports ranks, not traffic. I presume they do that to get around questions of what % of all traffic they can claim to measure: Well, in our sample, your website is the 12,345th biggest (or whatever).

    • Replies: @EriK
    @Steve Sailer

    what you said

  90. @AB-
    @Rod1963

    "you park a couple of ICE vans outside their processing centers every day for a week and randomly nab some illegals or simply have them photograph the cars and workers. Watch the workers vamoose"

    Guy I used to work with was a Mazda factory rep in SoCal. Whenever they suspected a dealer was cheating on warranty repairs and other stunts, but they didn't have a smoking gun yet, 4 of them would get dressed in white dress shirts, suits and ties, and then roll into the service department.

    They'd do it fast, so the tires would be squealing and get everybody's attention, then all 4 would jump out of the car. Half the shop would take off running, not to be seen until next week. If then.

    Usually one time was all the dealer needed to clean up his act....

    Getting back on topic about politicians breaking the law, the hate filled leftys in the Bay Area attacking the timid right. The mayors and police chiefs are on record that they are ordering the cops to disarm any of the timid right, but when 100+ of the hate filled leftys decide to attack, the cops just head back to the coffee and donuts and watch.

    ALL the politicians in the BA are hard left, so they see these beatings as a message to the timid right to NEVER, EVER, show their face in the BA ever again. Until they get over the timid part, the right should stay out....but even if they do get less timid, the entire establishment will hang them and do nothing to the HFL. So best to just not go there...

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Great story. Thanks.

    Where are Just Some Cop and Baltimore Teacher these days?

  91. @Steve Sailer
    @EriK

    Alexa reports ranks, not traffic. I presume they do that to get around questions of what % of all traffic they can claim to measure: Well, in our sample, your website is the 12,345th biggest (or whatever).

    Replies: @EriK

    what you said

  92. @res
    @al-Gharaniq

    I'm curious, does the stunt double have any responsibility to judge her own capabilities? Because AFAICT that article was all about how it was everybody else's fault.

    And can someone please explain this doublethink from the comments for me?


    Because they didn't hire her because of her race- they hired her because of her similar appearance to the star that she was the stunt double for- if the star was white they wouldn't have hired her...
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @ben tillman

    I’m curious, does the stunt double have any responsibility to judge her own capabilities? Because AFAICT that article was all about how it was everybody else’s fault.

    You sure said a mouthful there, partner.

  93. @Lot
    @Rod1963

    I like just showing up with a van to scare them away. Make illegal labor less reliable.

    I've been reading that meat processing is hiring a lot of Somalis. Any Somali who shows up here can immediately get a work permit as long as Trump keeps it on the TPS list.

    Regarding lawyers, federal crimes tend to have absurd minimum sentences. People facing federal charges thus find a way to raise the $200,000 they need. The federal public defenders are much better than state ones. Overall it seems arbitrary and unfair to throw the book at random illegal employers. If half of the 11 million illegals have jobs, that means there are likely millions of illegal employers. Though between DACA and TPS and lot of illegals have work permits now. Prosecuting 1 in 1000 of them would be a huge undertaking and probably not be all that effective.

    Scaring employers by sending out no match letters for illegals' fake SSNs was a very effective practice that got businesses pushing back and calling their congressmen.

    Replies: @Alden

    I think it’s a great idea to go after random employers of illegals.

  94. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    @Jim Don Bob

    I don't think there are too many illegals working in Vegas casinos. The amount of money that flows through those places demands that the employers be 100% sure of the identity of those working for them, and there are cameras everywhere.

    Replies: @bomag, @Anonymous, @Lot, @Alden

    Very few employees actually handle cash. That’s why they use chips. The money’s all locked up in the cashier’s cages and the vaults. Only a few very trusted employees get near it.

  95. @Lugash
    Trump should introduce a simple nationwide eVerify bill. It would give him a policy win, he'd have great talking points, and it would let him publicly define who's a globalist and who isn't.

    Replies: @Alden

    Wasn’t e verify done many years ago?

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