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  1. His sister’s looking pretty good…

    • Replies: @ATate
    What’s with the fetishization of this chick? She’s not even reasonably attractive “for an Asian”.

    Admittedly I’m not attracted to Asians...at all. Spent a year in the Marines between Okinawa, Japan and South Korea and find Asian women to be...weird and not attractive.

    Anyway, she’s not even close to being cute let alone hot. Punchable for sure.
    , @Roderick Spode
    NazBol Twitter is going completely feral over her.
    , @Anonymous
    They don’t bear much of a resemblance to each other.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Karlin’s comment section:

    Songbird

    She’s quite attractive for the sister of a world leader. What other world leader even has a sister that is still fertile? Have you seen Trump’s sister? If I were in high school, and she was my teacher, I would rank her (Kim Yo-jong) #2 or #3. Probably #2 – at least by that pic.

    Lars Porsena

    And you would be torn apart by wild dogs for your insolence. She is clearly #1.
     
    , @JimB

    His sister’s looking pretty good…
     
    She looks like Michael Jackson. Perhaps she is a he.
    , @hhsiii
    She needs some body shampoo. I wouldn't kick her outta bed for eating kimchee. But she probably reeks.

    She beats him by a country kilometer, though.
    , @Servant of Gla'aki

    His sister’s looking pretty good…
     
    People keep saying that, but I think she looks like a smug ghoul.

    I'm pretty sure Our Man in Pyongyang is deceased, alas. I had assumed the DPRK was too patriarchal/"traditionalist" (ahem) to be open to a female leader, but it seems that one of the last and most prominent Korean leaders (prior to the 1910 Japanese conquest of Korea, that is) was a woman. The Japanese actually assassinated her in 1895, thus indicating she was an obstacle to their ambitions, and is likely well-regarded on both sides of the 38th parallel. So I suspect that makes it far more likely his sister would be accepted as the new supreme leader.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Myeongseong
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    At long last doth Katharine post some pictures, and they do not rise to the standard quality found in Town & Country! Ballocks and great balderdash! How COULD you do such a thing?

    At least have the decency of posting some nice pictures of Kylie, Kendal, or Kim to wash the taste out from having had to gaze upon this dry sour vinegar! Asian fever, me luv u long time, indeed! If THIS is what passes for hotness from the Hermit Kingdom then pickings are really slim over there indeed.

    What in the world pray tell IS that anyway?

    There was no need for posting such outrageous things on a site such as this.

    Someone doth appear to be a'slippin, Katharine, and afraid in this instance, it is you.

    EWWWWWWW!!!!!!

    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    🌳👔🔨
    , @Anon
    She has a smug dragon lady look.
    , @Neil Templeton
    The upward curl in her lips indicates to me a sense of humor, dark as it may be. Also, intelligence, which her doughbro may lack.
    , @Anonymous
    She's cute, but disturbingly she looks like Martin Shkreli. They even have a similar sallow pallor similar hairlines. And they have that same smug smirk. It's uncanny.

    https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aV3DZmn_700bwp.webp
    , @Kyle
    She looks like the class struggle face lady got jaundice. The lack of eyelashes is disturbing. She also has huge lesbian ears that stick out to the side like Andy Griffith.
    , @Inverness
    I have nothing to add but everyone else has replied to your post and I didn't want to be left out.
    , @slumber_j
    Lizardly.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    Hey, odd looking that she is, the lady's got nothing on Lori Lightfoot?
  2. There goes the chances for the Nobel Peace Prize for the 21st Century’s greatest diplomat, Dennis Rodman.

    • LOL: Neoconned
  3. Kim Jong-Un, son of Kim Jung-Il, is now Kim Jong Dead. He will be replaced by Kim Jong-Im

    • Replies: @moshe
    So I suppose we can expect Kim Jung Un-Dead.

    But he'll have to fight Zombie Reagan!
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Kim Jong-Un, son of Kim Jung-Il, is now Kim Jong Dead. He will be replaced by Kim Jong-Im
     
    I got spurs that sung-il, jong-il, jong-un
    As I go ridin' merrily along...

    Oh, Hyon Song-wol, oh, Hyon Song-wol,
    I am sorry that I had to have you shot against a wall...


    But he will live on in his contributions to world literature.


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hdkAAOSwmfhX3jw0/s-l300.jpg

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jmAAAOSw241YWzk~/s-l400.jpg

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-gsAAOSwux5YWyof/s-l400.jpg

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Oe4AAOSwGUBaMqys/s-l400.jpg

    , @Clifford Brown
    North Korean TV Live Broadcast. Window On Another World.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0TLBUvBV0&feature=emb_title
  4. Kim Jong-Un is Ill. Kim Jong-Il is still dead.

    • Thanks: James Speaks
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    I'm gonna steal that,
  5. He is probably alive. He does really look obese and unhealthy but he is only around 35 years old (no one knows his real birthday). And the Western press has a bad record of announcing a dictator’s death. I’m old enough to remember how many times it was announced Brezhnev, Mao or Fidel or some other commie dictator was on his deathbed only to appear quite alive on some news item the next day. When they did really die, this generally took the West by surprise.

    • Replies: @moshe
    Hasn't Kim himself been declared "possibly probably dead" 2 or 3 (or 4?) times already?

    He may have indeed been in hospital then and dead now but the press isn't be trusted on this or much else. unfortunately nobody holds them accountable when they get things wrong so they really have no motivation to try to get things right.

    Regarding this subject though, it's obvious that the rumors are meant to harass these political leaders that they don't like and also to stirred out into the people of that country and possibly lead to some sort of rebellion. it's a tactic of psychological and social Warfare that of course every country uses or would use whenever they wanted to. So it's no surprise that the press would consider himself the fourth estate what do it as well. Regarding Kim jong-un, who knows if it's a good thing? Or for whom?

    It is funny though to think of Kim Jung Un harassed. politics aside, I think he kind of deserves it. I would love to watch it, ala, Team America: World Police.
  6. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    What’s with the fetishization of this chick? She’s not even reasonably attractive “for an Asian”.

    Admittedly I’m not attracted to Asians…at all. Spent a year in the Marines between Okinawa, Japan and South Korea and find Asian women to be…weird and not attractive.

    Anyway, she’s not even close to being cute let alone hot. Punchable for sure.

    • Agree: Father O'Hara
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Well she’s clearly going for that no-makeup Juche-chic look.

    I’m sure she would doll-up real nice if a beautician ever got to her.
    , @R.G. Camara
    Three reasons:

    1. They're grading on the curve for political leaders. Politics is Hollywood for ugly people. When females in that world are Hillary Clinton and Angela Merkel, a 5 becomes a 10.

    2. Her youthful appearance. Youth in a woman goes a long way towards attractiveness, especially as men get older. An average man her age might consider her nothing special in the looks department, but an average man twenty years older would be much more interested in plowing her barren communist plot.

    3. Some of these guys have a fetishization of a Dragon Lady dominatrix-type. The last Pierce Brosnan James Bond movie, Die Another Day, had an extended opening credit sequence where such a North Korean woman tortures Bond for more than a year. The sequence was the best part of that really shi t ty movie, and you got the sense that the filmmakers were more interested in getting that, uh, right than the rest of that garbage film.

    I agree, she's nothing special to look at, but she gives off a vibe in her pictures of being aggressive in bed, which is often more fun than a prettier girl who's a dead fish.

    , @J1234

    I’m not attracted to Asians…at all.
     
    Not all Asians are created equal...at least in terms of attractiveness. Not going to pretend to be knowledgeable with regards to Asia, but Korea seems to have the most attractive women of the Far East. This is because (in my opinion) they more closely resemble Europeans (north central Europe, or maybe Celtic people) than other people of the Far East. I'm not saying they look like Europeans.

    They are followed by the Japanese (some of them are knockouts) and various populations in the Philippines, Thailand and maybe a few (but not many) in China. The rest of Asia I find somewhat unattractive, though not repulsively so. Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn't belong to me, so I've never been interested in Asian women personally.

    , @Anonymous (n)
    I kind of agree with you. She's quite plain for an Asian, even one in her 30's. As for the rest of your comment, it's all down to personal preference I guess. On the one hand you have feminine, slender females with hair only where you'd want it and on the other hand you have aggressive, argumentative manbeasts with lumberjack shoulders and hair everywhere except for the one place it would provide for a nice ornament. It truly is a fantastic world where both species of female have their admirers, and I sincerely and heartily applaud every man who has a preference for the species I'm not fond of and leaves my targets alone!
  7. Even for a fat dude, that is pretty young to die. Even a smoker.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    Or it all faked by the Norks. I have no way of making an accurate prediction.

    • Replies: @B36
    Of course he may have been poisoned by @syonredux's idol.
    , @Anonymous
    Will Trump Daddy attend the Fune ?
    , @prosa123
    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    North Korea has executed dissidents by antiaircraft gun and by flamethrower. I wonder what they used for the surgeon.
    , @Sean
    He is getting some horizontal jogging in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/back-from-the-dead-kim-jong-uns-pop-star-ex-girlfriend-is-seen-alongside-north-korean-dictator-in-public-after-reports-she-was-executed-by-firing-squad-for-making-a-sex-tape/ar-AACD9uk
    Hyon Song-wol, who is known for propaganda hits like ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’ was seen this week touring factories with Chairman Kim, the Sunday Times of London reported.

    Hyon is the 42-year-old lead singer of Moranbong Band, an all-women group.

    She is also a member of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, which of course is chaired by Kim
    Hyon was photographed next to Kim as they visited factories. They were also side-by-side while watching the Mass Games gymnastics performance.

    There were reports that in 2013 Kim ordered Hyon’s execution after she allegedly made a sex tape.


     

    Nassim Taleb said in one of his books that a personal doctor can be dangerous. Kim must have several and they all would be likely to err on the side of caution in ordering tests and procedures. making a probability of overtreatment. Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family. I doubt there would be much of a change in policy. She certainly is not the type to take initiatives on her own account.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100951532558798848~/news/world-asia-47397700

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later--days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    , @Anon
    Not only the smoking but the chocolate-dipped French crullers = ⚰️

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzcLOKCIEAEm96K.jpg
    , @JosephB

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=notKtAgfwDA
  8. I calculated his BMI this evening based on the height and weight given by Wikipedia. It is (or was) 45!

  9. Probably sharing a hot pot with his Dictatrix-in-waiting hottie sister and laughing himself silly as The Empire impodes.

    • Replies: @PennTothal

    Probably sharing a hot pot with his Dictatrix-in-waiting hottie sister and laughing himself silly as The Empire impodes.
     
    Yup:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItlMv5w4N5o&feature=youtu.be
  10. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    NazBol Twitter is going completely feral over her.

  11. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    They don’t bear much of a resemblance to each other.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    From the look I would say that they are no biological siblings.
    , @syonredux

    They don’t bear much of a resemblance to each other.
     
    Randy Quaid-Dennis Quaid Syndrome. One sibling wins the genetic lottery:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/nintchdbpict000383911020-e1520349941923.jpg

    ....and the other loses...

    https://static.themoscowtimes.com/image/1360/42/-1x-11.jpg
  12. @Hodag
    Even for a fat dude, that is pretty young to die. Even a smoker.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    Or it all faked by the Norks. I have no way of making an accurate prediction.

    Of course he may have been poisoned by ’s idol.

  13. Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous.

    • LOL: James Speaks
    • Replies: @moshe
    Every North Korean has a lean and hungry look...
  14. • Replies: @Coag
    This American journalist who says he’s been to Kim’s compound multiple times is saying it’s actually unusual for Kim to take the train there—apparently the dude usually drives or flies to the compound.

    https://twitter.com/willripleyCNN/status/1254168213807652864

    , @RobUK
    Presumably this train cannot move unless he is personally on it then. I mean, the wouldn’t think up something cunning like “let’s send his train to such-and-such, so the Yankee Kremlinologists can fall on the satellite images like a pack of starving feral dogs”
  15. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    From Karlin’s comment section:

    Songbird

    She’s quite attractive for the sister of a world leader. What other world leader even has a sister that is still fertile? Have you seen Trump’s sister? If I were in high school, and she was my teacher, I would rank her (Kim Yo-jong) #2 or #3. Probably #2 – at least by that pic.

    Lars Porsena

    And you would be torn apart by wild dogs for your insolence. She is clearly #1.

    • Thanks: Inverness
    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    I know this is just fun, but- one man's 5 is another man's 10.
  16. How Is North Korean Dictator Kim Jong-Un Doing?

    I think he’s got the nomination sewed up. Perhaps it’s time to reopen Panmunjom.

  17. Mistah Kim, he dead.

    A penny for the young guy.

  18. Anon[212] • Disclaimer says:

    You have to assume fake news about anything related to North Korea. There’s a South Korean organization that specializes in fake Nork news. They get something right every once in a while, so they aren’t completely discounted. Japan media is basically silent on this,which says something. They are all over real developments in North Korea.

    • Replies: @Anon

    Japan media is basically silent on this,which says something.
     
    Well, the Shukan Gendai weekly tabloid, quoting an "unnamed member of Kim’s medical team," has the story. Their crack reportorial team are taking a break from celebrity trist sightings, anti-nuclear power rants, and "hair nude" photos.
  19. Maybe the propaganda effect of looking like grandpa was not worth it?

    • Replies: @prosa123
    Maybe the propaganda effect of looking like grandpa was not worth it?

    He didn't/doesn't have a gigantic hairy growth on the back of the neck like Grandpa did?
  20. Maybe he just got up in a tree and won’t come down. That happens, you know.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @fish
    I don't know why.....but I LOL'ed.
  21. I guess sometimes it’s not good to be the King.

  22. Rocket Man had a bad ticker. He had a coronary and is said to be in a coma. Chinese doctors have been dispatched to try to help. Kim Jong Un is not expected to survive and may already be considered braindead.

    • Replies: @anon
    So...pining for the fjords, then?
    , @James Speaks
    I can see how this plays out. A party operative, same age but much thinner, more intelligent, and with a hint of human ity, emerges in three months as the miraculously cured KJU.

    The Kim Jong is comatose. Long live the Kim Jong!
    , @The Alarmist

    Kim Jong Un is not expected to survive and may already be considered braindead.
     
    In the USA, that would qualify him to lead a major party ticket.

    We're still in the early innings ... Here's one for Sublime Sundays:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__VQX2Xn7tI
  23. @Anonymous
    They don’t bear much of a resemblance to each other.

    From the look I would say that they are no biological siblings.

  24. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/38NorthNK/status/1254117522384850946

    This American journalist who says he’s been to Kim’s compound multiple times is saying it’s actually unusual for Kim to take the train there—apparently the dude usually drives or flies to the compound.

  25. @Dr. Doom
    Rocket Man had a bad ticker. He had a coronary and is said to be in a coma. Chinese doctors have been dispatched to try to help. Kim Jong Un is not expected to survive and may already be considered braindead.

    So…pining for the fjords, then?

  26. He should have passed on that final wafer-thin mint.

  27. @Hodag
    Even for a fat dude, that is pretty young to die. Even a smoker.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    Or it all faked by the Norks. I have no way of making an accurate prediction.

    Will Trump Daddy attend the Fune ?

    • Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki

    Will Trump Daddy attend the Fune ?
     
    I would bet money that he will. I certainly hope so. It could be an important opportunity.

    If he doesn't, it will be due to concern over the Kung Flu.
  28. @Hodag
    Even for a fat dude, that is pretty young to die. Even a smoker.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    Or it all faked by the Norks. I have no way of making an accurate prediction.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    North Korea has executed dissidents by antiaircraft gun and by flamethrower. I wonder what they used for the surgeon.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    According to Japanese source, the story is that Kim had a heart attack. There was no time to get him to China but a N. Korea heart specialist trained in China was called in to put in a stent. Normally this takes as little as 1 minute but the specialist was very, very nervous because he knew that if he fucked this up he would be executed. Being very, very nervous is not a good thing for a surgeon to be. Apparently it took him 8 minutes and in that time Kim's brain was irreparably damaged and he is in a vegetative state. Chinese specialists have been flown in but there's nothing the can do - the damage is done. Or so they say.
    , @Ancient Briton
    For the Surgeon: Death By A Thosand Cuts!
    , @Mike_from_SGV
    Yes, God help the doctor if the alleged death was due to botched surgery.
  29. Could it be Covid? I am surprised no Head of State has died from it (yet), though most of them are old, routinely shake hands etc., talk a lot and listen to a lot of talking, do a lot of travelling, meeting people.

    • Replies: @jon
    One of the Korean newspapers is reporting that he is sheltering because one of his top security gaurds came down with the Wu Flu.

    http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3076490&cloc=joongangdaily|home|top
    , @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    I'm surprised we aren't seeing this more discussed
  30. @Dr. Doom
    Rocket Man had a bad ticker. He had a coronary and is said to be in a coma. Chinese doctors have been dispatched to try to help. Kim Jong Un is not expected to survive and may already be considered braindead.

    I can see how this plays out. A party operative, same age but much thinner, more intelligent, and with a hint of human ity, emerges in three months as the miraculously cured KJU.

    The Kim Jong is comatose. Long live the Kim Jong!

  31. @nebulafox
    Maybe the propaganda effect of looking like grandpa was not worth it?

    Maybe the propaganda effect of looking like grandpa was not worth it?

    He didn’t/doesn’t have a gigantic hairy growth on the back of the neck like Grandpa did?

  32. Now would be a perfect time to fly a U2 at the borders of North Korea and China, and North Korea and Russia. It seems like our airspace always gets tested in uncertain or difficult times.

    • Replies: @Inverness
    Do we still have U2s? That was well over a half century ago.
  33. @ATate
    What’s with the fetishization of this chick? She’s not even reasonably attractive “for an Asian”.

    Admittedly I’m not attracted to Asians...at all. Spent a year in the Marines between Okinawa, Japan and South Korea and find Asian women to be...weird and not attractive.

    Anyway, she’s not even close to being cute let alone hot. Punchable for sure.

    Well she’s clearly going for that no-makeup Juche-chic look.

    I’m sure she would doll-up real nice if a beautician ever got to her.

    • Replies: @anon
    She just needs better clothing and maybe something to put on her head.
    Like this.

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71X43S0DmkL._SL1091_.jpg
    , @Anon
    https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/ebsNhM9P.jpeg

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.
  34. @Andy
    He is probably alive. He does really look obese and unhealthy but he is only around 35 years old (no one knows his real birthday). And the Western press has a bad record of announcing a dictator's death. I'm old enough to remember how many times it was announced Brezhnev, Mao or Fidel or some other commie dictator was on his deathbed only to appear quite alive on some news item the next day. When they did really die, this generally took the West by surprise.

    Hasn’t Kim himself been declared “possibly probably dead” 2 or 3 (or 4?) times already?

    He may have indeed been in hospital then and dead now but the press isn’t be trusted on this or much else. unfortunately nobody holds them accountable when they get things wrong so they really have no motivation to try to get things right.

    Regarding this subject though, it’s obvious that the rumors are meant to harass these political leaders that they don’t like and also to stirred out into the people of that country and possibly lead to some sort of rebellion. it’s a tactic of psychological and social Warfare that of course every country uses or would use whenever they wanted to. So it’s no surprise that the press would consider himself the fourth estate what do it as well. Regarding Kim jong-un, who knows if it’s a good thing? Or for whom?

    It is funny though to think of Kim Jung Un harassed. politics aside, I think he kind of deserves it. I would love to watch it, ala, Team America: World Police.

  35. @Elli
    Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous.

    Every North Korean has a lean and hungry look…

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Every North Korean has a lean and hungry look…

     

    Fearless Leader is, shall we say, un-lean.....

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/nintchdbpict000071087197.jpg
  36. Send in Dennis Rodman

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Send in Dennis Rodman
     
    And Jimmy Carter.
  37. @James Speaks
    Kim Jong-Un, son of Kim Jung-Il, is now Kim Jong Dead. He will be replaced by Kim Jong-Im

    https://youtu.be/8CvYBx0qEbk

    So I suppose we can expect Kim Jung Un-Dead.

    But he’ll have to fight Zombie Reagan!

    • LOL: JosephB
  38. @Anonymous
    They don’t bear much of a resemblance to each other.

    They don’t bear much of a resemblance to each other.

    Randy Quaid-Dennis Quaid Syndrome. One sibling wins the genetic lottery:

    ….and the other loses…

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    As I alluded to, the point of Kim Jong Un's weight and hairdo is so that he looks like his grandfather, who had the good fortune to die in 1994 and can provide a historical nostalgia point for the regime in a way his father can't.
  39. Does it matter whether this a fake, semi fake or truth? Poor health or the rumors thereof is the kiss of death for a tryant. Can’t wait to see the power hungry usurper that comes forward with zero legitimacy or a sister that lacks legitimately as well due to her gender. It’s going to be a bloodbath either way

    • Replies: @Hail
    I must say, BIG DUCK's comment shows one reason why intelligence agencies like (or, would like, in principle, if you prefer) to release and promote such hoaxes.
  40. North Korea reports Kim Jong Un is the most alive person in the universe!

    https://babylonbee.com/news/north-korea-reports-kim-jong-un-is-most-alive-person-in-universe

  41. @The Alarmist
    Probably sharing a hot pot with his Dictatrix-in-waiting hottie sister and laughing himself silly as The Empire impodes.

    Probably sharing a hot pot with his Dictatrix-in-waiting hottie sister and laughing himself silly as The Empire impodes.

    Yup:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItlMv5w4N5o&feature=youtu.be

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    It seems like no matter how esoteric the cultural, political, or historic reference, another iSteve reader will know something similar or relevant.
  42. My guess is some prospective purgee struck first.

    Do unto others before they can do unto you.

  43. You gotta root for the girl to become Ruthless Dictator IV.

    Then we can watch the fucking media try to pretend she’s wonderful.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Nah, all the females in the media will turn bitchy when they realize the guys consider her hot.
  44. Where’s the body double ……. every world leader should have at least three, like Stalin.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    Where’s the body double ……. every world leader should have at least three, like Stalin.
     
    Maybe North Korea doesn't have enough surplus food to fatten up three more like him.
  45. He’s a goner. Hope she’s less competently evil.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    If he’s dead, she’ll probably be dead by 2022.
  46. @Anon
    You have to assume fake news about anything related to North Korea. There's a South Korean organization that specializes in fake Nork news. They get something right every once in a while, so they aren't completely discounted. Japan media is basically silent on this,which says something. They are all over real developments in North Korea.

    Japan media is basically silent on this,which says something.

    Well, the Shukan Gendai weekly tabloid, quoting an “unnamed member of Kim’s medical team,” has the story. Their crack reportorial team are taking a break from celebrity trist sightings, anti-nuclear power rants, and “hair nude” photos.

  47. @moshe
    Every North Korean has a lean and hungry look...

    Every North Korean has a lean and hungry look…

    Fearless Leader is, shall we say, un-lean…..

    • LOL: moshe
    • Replies: @Dmon
    That's a great hat. Is that guy the Chef of Staff?
    , @Ron Mexico
    Kim was on the "see food diet." The only diet people can stick to.
  48. @BenKenobi
    Well she’s clearly going for that no-makeup Juche-chic look.

    I’m sure she would doll-up real nice if a beautician ever got to her.

    She just needs better clothing and maybe something to put on her head.
    Like this.

    • Replies: @Simon Tugmutton

    something to put on her head

     

    https://www.vten.com.my/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/pap002.jpg
  49. Anon[506] • Disclaimer says:

    You always have to consider the stopped clock syndrome, and everybody eventually dies, but in general the answer to the question, “Is this North Korean rumor true?” is “No.”

    Relevant readings:

    True or false: the ‘kooky’ North Korea stories they couldn’t make up – but did
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jun/01/true-or-false-kooky-north-korea-stories

    10 Of The Craziest Rumors From North Korea, Fact-Checked
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/north-korea-rumors_n_5160797

    Media coverage of North Korea
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_North_Korea

    The latter is an excellent Wikipedia article that goes beyond listing up fake news from North Korea to explain why most news from there is fake.

  50. @anon
    Maybe he just got up in a tree and won't come down. That happens, you know.

    I don’t know why…..but I LOL’ed.

  51. @Hodag
    Even for a fat dude, that is pretty young to die. Even a smoker.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    Or it all faked by the Norks. I have no way of making an accurate prediction.

    He is getting some horizontal jogging in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/back-from-the-dead-kim-jong-uns-pop-star-ex-girlfriend-is-seen-alongside-north-korean-dictator-in-public-after-reports-she-was-executed-by-firing-squad-for-making-a-sex-tape/ar-AACD9uk
    Hyon Song-wol, who is known for propaganda hits like ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’ was seen this week touring factories with Chairman Kim, the Sunday Times of London reported.

    Hyon is the 42-year-old lead singer of Moranbong Band, an all-women group.

    She is also a member of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, which of course is chaired by Kim
    Hyon was photographed next to Kim as they visited factories. They were also side-by-side while watching the Mass Games gymnastics performance.

    There were reports that in 2013 Kim ordered Hyon’s execution after she allegedly made a sex tape.

    Nassim Taleb said in one of his books that a personal doctor can be dangerous. Kim must have several and they all would be likely to err on the side of caution in ordering tests and procedures. making a probability of overtreatment. Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family. I doubt there would be much of a change in policy. She certainly is not the type to take initiatives on her own account.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100951532558798848~/news/world-asia-47397700

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later–days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    • Replies: @utu
    "Otto Warmbier ...His parents..." - Refused to have autopsy done and had his body cremated. Only later they began to make various claims.
    , @nebulafox
    >North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family.

    Our relationship with the Saudis or Pakistanis is a good analogy for the Chinese relationship with the DPRK: they don't like them, but they are stuck with them.

    Just because the ideology of the North Korean government is irrational doesn't mean that they themselves are, though.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    Is Miss Hyon still alive, or has Marie Osmond been hired to impersonate her?


    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5MT59PT8vhY/WQQZgTE00mI/AAAAAAAAmy4/_wMn7GLyJaUSkTXyqhNFq-BiZROO5GIaACLcB/s400/Hyon%2BSong-wol-1.jpg
    , @fish

    Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.
     
    I've heard it said that anesthesia doesn't "put you to sleep", it kills you..... but only to the point where there remains a reasonable chance of being revived.
    , @Jonathan Mason

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later–days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.
     
    To me it seems most likely that immediately after the trial and sentencing, Warmbier tried to hang himself, but was cut down and resuscitated, however not before he had suffered bilateral brain damage due to hypoxia.

    Now, whether the prison authorities kept this information from the political leadership, I do not know. When you have a setup where people often get sentenced to death at their quarterly job evaluation, they may sometime prevaricate to shed a better light on themselves.

    The post-mortem examination stated that his teeth were normal. I don't know how anywone would be able to determine that they had been "rearranged with pliers". Usually movements in the position of teeth would be the result of prolonged pressure.

    The parents refused to have an autopsy performed. Without knowing the exact reason, one has to respect their privacy in this matter and accept that they did what they thought was best.

    The parents were obviously, and rightfully, incredible distressed and angry when their son was returned in a vegetative state, so I would not take anything they said at the time as objective fact.

    Presumably they had also financed the trip to North Korea at their son's request, so that must have weighed very heavily on them too, especially since this tour was advertised as "the tour you mother does not want you to take."

    Something that has never really been discussed is how the Koreans knew it was Warmbier who attempted to steal the poster--apparently the video just showed an unidentifiable figure--and what his possible motive might have been. Stating that he was drunk hardly explains anything.

    Eyewitness accounts of his arrest at the airport did not say that he expressed surprise or outrage at being tapped on the shoulder and led away by two police officers.

    https://nextshark.com/otto-warmbier-north-korea-z-society/

    Interesting article here, especially at the bottom where it is claimed that Warmbier had been in North Korea two times before, which I have never seen reported anywhere else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w0gCyqkQ4U
    , @The Alarmist

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later–days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.
     
    My guess was that a despondent Warmbier tried to hang himself. The Nork doctors who intubated him to restore airflow to the lungs probably knocked around a few teeth; tooth damage during intubation is not uncommon even in "modern" "first world" hospitals in the USA.
  52. @ATate
    What’s with the fetishization of this chick? She’s not even reasonably attractive “for an Asian”.

    Admittedly I’m not attracted to Asians...at all. Spent a year in the Marines between Okinawa, Japan and South Korea and find Asian women to be...weird and not attractive.

    Anyway, she’s not even close to being cute let alone hot. Punchable for sure.

    Three reasons:

    1. They’re grading on the curve for political leaders. Politics is Hollywood for ugly people. When females in that world are Hillary Clinton and Angela Merkel, a 5 becomes a 10.

    2. Her youthful appearance. Youth in a woman goes a long way towards attractiveness, especially as men get older. An average man her age might consider her nothing special in the looks department, but an average man twenty years older would be much more interested in plowing her barren communist plot.

    3. Some of these guys have a fetishization of a Dragon Lady dominatrix-type. The last Pierce Brosnan James Bond movie, Die Another Day, had an extended opening credit sequence where such a North Korean woman tortures Bond for more than a year. The sequence was the best part of that really shi t ty movie, and you got the sense that the filmmakers were more interested in getting that, uh, right than the rest of that garbage film.

    I agree, she’s nothing special to look at, but she gives off a vibe in her pictures of being aggressive in bed, which is often more fun than a prettier girl who’s a dead fish.

    • LOL: bomag
  53. @Sean
    He is getting some horizontal jogging in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/back-from-the-dead-kim-jong-uns-pop-star-ex-girlfriend-is-seen-alongside-north-korean-dictator-in-public-after-reports-she-was-executed-by-firing-squad-for-making-a-sex-tape/ar-AACD9uk
    Hyon Song-wol, who is known for propaganda hits like ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’ was seen this week touring factories with Chairman Kim, the Sunday Times of London reported.

    Hyon is the 42-year-old lead singer of Moranbong Band, an all-women group.

    She is also a member of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, which of course is chaired by Kim
    Hyon was photographed next to Kim as they visited factories. They were also side-by-side while watching the Mass Games gymnastics performance.

    There were reports that in 2013 Kim ordered Hyon’s execution after she allegedly made a sex tape.


     

    Nassim Taleb said in one of his books that a personal doctor can be dangerous. Kim must have several and they all would be likely to err on the side of caution in ordering tests and procedures. making a probability of overtreatment. Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family. I doubt there would be much of a change in policy. She certainly is not the type to take initiatives on her own account.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100951532558798848~/news/world-asia-47397700

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later--days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    “Otto Warmbier …His parents…” – Refused to have autopsy done and had his body cremated. Only later they began to make various claims.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @vinteuil

    [Otto Warmbier's parents] refused to have autopsy done and had his body cremated. Only later they began to make various claims.
     
    My niece Jennifer was murdered by her husband Beau, last November. It was a horrible time for all of us. Her parents didn't want an autopsy and had her body cremated.

    I guess you would have found that suspicious.

    I mean, WTF, dude? Are you claiming that the RNK did no wrong, here? That Otto Warmbier's parents are part of some sinister conspiracy to blacken the name of the RNK?
  54. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    His sister’s looking pretty good…

    She looks like Michael Jackson. Perhaps she is a he.

  55. @Sean
    He is getting some horizontal jogging in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/back-from-the-dead-kim-jong-uns-pop-star-ex-girlfriend-is-seen-alongside-north-korean-dictator-in-public-after-reports-she-was-executed-by-firing-squad-for-making-a-sex-tape/ar-AACD9uk
    Hyon Song-wol, who is known for propaganda hits like ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’ was seen this week touring factories with Chairman Kim, the Sunday Times of London reported.

    Hyon is the 42-year-old lead singer of Moranbong Band, an all-women group.

    She is also a member of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, which of course is chaired by Kim
    Hyon was photographed next to Kim as they visited factories. They were also side-by-side while watching the Mass Games gymnastics performance.

    There were reports that in 2013 Kim ordered Hyon’s execution after she allegedly made a sex tape.


     

    Nassim Taleb said in one of his books that a personal doctor can be dangerous. Kim must have several and they all would be likely to err on the side of caution in ordering tests and procedures. making a probability of overtreatment. Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family. I doubt there would be much of a change in policy. She certainly is not the type to take initiatives on her own account.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100951532558798848~/news/world-asia-47397700

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later--days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    >North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family.

    Our relationship with the Saudis or Pakistanis is a good analogy for the Chinese relationship with the DPRK: they don’t like them, but they are stuck with them.

    Just because the ideology of the North Korean government is irrational doesn’t mean that they themselves are, though.

    • Replies: @Kronos

    everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family.
     
    Kim Il Sung (Grandpa) had plenty of fathered children out of wedlock. Many are high ranking official (bastards) in the North Korean military and communist party. It truly is a dynasty. It’s also amazing he lived so long. Both Mao and Chiang Kai-shek contracted many nasty STDs over the years that impacted their respective health.


    http://www.pauleijkemans.com/worldtrip/part30/medium/North%20Korea%20-%20Pyongyang%20-%20Childrens%20Palace%20-%20Mural%20(medium).jpg
  56. @syonredux

    They don’t bear much of a resemblance to each other.
     
    Randy Quaid-Dennis Quaid Syndrome. One sibling wins the genetic lottery:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/nintchdbpict000383911020-e1520349941923.jpg

    ....and the other loses...

    https://static.themoscowtimes.com/image/1360/42/-1x-11.jpg

    As I alluded to, the point of Kim Jong Un’s weight and hairdo is so that he looks like his grandfather, who had the good fortune to die in 1994 and can provide a historical nostalgia point for the regime in a way his father can’t.

  57. He’s dead to me.

    • LOL: MBlanc46
  58. @prosa123
    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    North Korea has executed dissidents by antiaircraft gun and by flamethrower. I wonder what they used for the surgeon.

    According to Japanese source, the story is that Kim had a heart attack. There was no time to get him to China but a N. Korea heart specialist trained in China was called in to put in a stent. Normally this takes as little as 1 minute but the specialist was very, very nervous because he knew that if he fucked this up he would be executed. Being very, very nervous is not a good thing for a surgeon to be. Apparently it took him 8 minutes and in that time Kim’s brain was irreparably damaged and he is in a vegetative state. Chinese specialists have been flown in but there’s nothing the can do – the damage is done. Or so they say.

  59. Back in the day, I had a friend who studied North Korean language.

    South Koreans were very impressed with him (Caucasian army officer from New England).

    I asked him his real opinion about North Korea.

    He asked me if I really wanted to know, I said, sure, why not.

    He said, if I remember right : “they are exactly what you would think”.

  60. @Sean
    He is getting some horizontal jogging in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/back-from-the-dead-kim-jong-uns-pop-star-ex-girlfriend-is-seen-alongside-north-korean-dictator-in-public-after-reports-she-was-executed-by-firing-squad-for-making-a-sex-tape/ar-AACD9uk
    Hyon Song-wol, who is known for propaganda hits like ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’ was seen this week touring factories with Chairman Kim, the Sunday Times of London reported.

    Hyon is the 42-year-old lead singer of Moranbong Band, an all-women group.

    She is also a member of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, which of course is chaired by Kim
    Hyon was photographed next to Kim as they visited factories. They were also side-by-side while watching the Mass Games gymnastics performance.

    There were reports that in 2013 Kim ordered Hyon’s execution after she allegedly made a sex tape.


     

    Nassim Taleb said in one of his books that a personal doctor can be dangerous. Kim must have several and they all would be likely to err on the side of caution in ordering tests and procedures. making a probability of overtreatment. Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family. I doubt there would be much of a change in policy. She certainly is not the type to take initiatives on her own account.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100951532558798848~/news/world-asia-47397700

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later--days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    I didn't know that Lawrence Welk broadcasted a show from North Korea.
  61. Did Rocketman die because of CoronaVirus?

  62. @Sean
    He is getting some horizontal jogging in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/back-from-the-dead-kim-jong-uns-pop-star-ex-girlfriend-is-seen-alongside-north-korean-dictator-in-public-after-reports-she-was-executed-by-firing-squad-for-making-a-sex-tape/ar-AACD9uk
    Hyon Song-wol, who is known for propaganda hits like ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’ was seen this week touring factories with Chairman Kim, the Sunday Times of London reported.

    Hyon is the 42-year-old lead singer of Moranbong Band, an all-women group.

    She is also a member of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, which of course is chaired by Kim
    Hyon was photographed next to Kim as they visited factories. They were also side-by-side while watching the Mass Games gymnastics performance.

    There were reports that in 2013 Kim ordered Hyon’s execution after she allegedly made a sex tape.


     

    Nassim Taleb said in one of his books that a personal doctor can be dangerous. Kim must have several and they all would be likely to err on the side of caution in ordering tests and procedures. making a probability of overtreatment. Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family. I doubt there would be much of a change in policy. She certainly is not the type to take initiatives on her own account.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100951532558798848~/news/world-asia-47397700

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later--days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    I’ve heard it said that anesthesia doesn’t “put you to sleep”, it kills you….. but only to the point where there remains a reasonable chance of being revived.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Troll: Kyle
    • Replies: @bruce county
    Exactly... been there done that... One anethesiologist kills you and another brings you back. If they know you are good candidate and you have a good sense of humour they will tell you what their jobs really entail at your pre-op.. They make no bones about the seriousness of it all. Heart stents are no laffing matter. I was very lucky both were young impressionable white docs. Its funny when its a filthy dog eating dictator getting it done though.

    Not sure what the fat little bastards death will mean to the free world except that Rocket Man is dead.
    Sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for.
    , @Sean
    https://www.verywellhealth.com/thmb/eS6fcGInj6rphWzj9tp6Joe5j4g=/700x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/intubation-021-5a299722e258f8003693b043.png

    They give you the injection and tell you to count backwards from ten. Two seconds later the clock is ticking and if the anesthesiologist (who you do not normally see) is too slow intubating you (cannot find the place to get the tube in) you will die. I read about this happening to someone who had had a general anesthetic before and insisted on having it for a routine orthopedic operation. He had a young paki female anesthesiologist; and she didn't get the tube in and he died.

    Two days after reading this in the paper it almost happened to me. The anesthesiologist was an older white consultant and came and saw me later to give me a letter for warning I was very difficult to intubate, and maybe curious to see the fellow who almost gave gave him a heart attack. He was a calm silver haired doctor, but looked a little bit shell shocked. If he had been off working on his handicap and someone less experienced was there in his stead, who knows?

    , @Pestartzt
    That has been said but it's at best wildly misleading. Anesthesia is not death; it's a reversible, medication-driven coma. Under general anesthesia your heart is still beating (except in the very special case of circulatory arrest for certain heart operations), your lungs are still exchanging gases (again except during some portions of some heart operations), you're driven to breathe either by a ventilator or surprisingly often under your own power, the other organs are functioning to some extent (kidneys, liver, adrenals, peripheral nervous system basically intact, less so the GI tract). Your muscles may (or may not) be paralyzed, but it's really only the central nervous system that is necessarily depressed.
    The "medically-induced coma" they always mention on the news after major trauma or other medical condition is exactly general anesthesia, except in the ICU instead of the OR.
  63. A lot of people seem to be falling for hoaxes lately.

    It’s like there is an anti-skepticism pandemic going around.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @anon

    A lot of people seem to be falling for hoaxes lately.


    That's just an internet hoax, and you fell for it!
  64. @BIG DUCK
    Does it matter whether this a fake, semi fake or truth? Poor health or the rumors thereof is the kiss of death for a tryant. Can't wait to see the power hungry usurper that comes forward with zero legitimacy or a sister that lacks legitimately as well due to her gender. It's going to be a bloodbath either way

    I must say, BIG DUCK’s comment shows one reason why intelligence agencies like (or, would like, in principle, if you prefer) to release and promote such hoaxes.

  65. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    She needs some body shampoo. I wouldn’t kick her outta bed for eating kimchee. But she probably reeks.

    She beats him by a country kilometer, though.

    • Replies: @Jeff
    You sure about that? I'd sure as hell kick her out for kimchee, I can't stand that stuff.
  66. @James Speaks
    Kim Jong-Un, son of Kim Jung-Il, is now Kim Jong Dead. He will be replaced by Kim Jong-Im

    https://youtu.be/8CvYBx0qEbk

    Kim Jong-Un, son of Kim Jung-Il, is now Kim Jong Dead. He will be replaced by Kim Jong-Im

    I got spurs that sung-il, jong-il, jong-un
    As I go ridin’ merrily along…

    Oh, Hyon Song-wol, oh, Hyon Song-wol,
    I am sorry that I had to have you shot against a wall…

    But he will live on in his contributions to world literature.


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Oe4AAOSwGUBaMqys/s-l400.jpg

    • LOL: Daniel Williams
    • Replies: @James Speaks
    I'm moved.
  67. @prosa123
    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    North Korea has executed dissidents by antiaircraft gun and by flamethrower. I wonder what they used for the surgeon.

    For the Surgeon: Death By A Thosand Cuts!

  68. @Hail
    A lot of people seem to be falling for hoaxes lately.

    It's like there is an anti-skepticism pandemic going around.


    A lot of people seem to be falling for hoaxes lately.

    That’s just an internet hoax, and you fell for it!

    • LOL: Hail
  69. @Reg Cæsar

    Kim Jong-Un, son of Kim Jung-Il, is now Kim Jong Dead. He will be replaced by Kim Jong-Im
     
    I got spurs that sung-il, jong-il, jong-un
    As I go ridin' merrily along...

    Oh, Hyon Song-wol, oh, Hyon Song-wol,
    I am sorry that I had to have you shot against a wall...


    But he will live on in his contributions to world literature.


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hdkAAOSwmfhX3jw0/s-l300.jpg

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jmAAAOSw241YWzk~/s-l400.jpg

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-gsAAOSwux5YWyof/s-l400.jpg

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Oe4AAOSwGUBaMqys/s-l400.jpg

    I’m moved.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    hope you layed in a good supply of toilet paper.
  70. @ATate
    What’s with the fetishization of this chick? She’s not even reasonably attractive “for an Asian”.

    Admittedly I’m not attracted to Asians...at all. Spent a year in the Marines between Okinawa, Japan and South Korea and find Asian women to be...weird and not attractive.

    Anyway, she’s not even close to being cute let alone hot. Punchable for sure.

    I’m not attracted to Asians…at all.

    Not all Asians are created equal…at least in terms of attractiveness. Not going to pretend to be knowledgeable with regards to Asia, but Korea seems to have the most attractive women of the Far East. This is because (in my opinion) they more closely resemble Europeans (north central Europe, or maybe Celtic people) than other people of the Far East. I’m not saying they look like Europeans.

    They are followed by the Japanese (some of them are knockouts) and various populations in the Philippines, Thailand and maybe a few (but not many) in China. The rest of Asia I find somewhat unattractive, though not repulsively so. Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me, so I’ve never been interested in Asian women personally.

    • Replies: @Anonymous (n)
    I've spent time in all the countries you've listed and almost nobody who has any experience in the region would say Southeast Asians like Thais and Pinays can hold a candle to any of the Northeast Asians, Chinese included. Furthermore, while many would agree that Koreans are the cream of the crop, nobody would suggest it's because there is any resemblance to Europeans. If anything, Koreans are the epitome of the wide faced Mongoloid phenotype.

    But this just took me completely aback:

    Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me, so I’ve never been interested in Asian women personally.
     

    I can't imagine being this cucked! I don't say that to be offensive, I just can't describe the attitude you've expressed here with any other word. Outsiders have no hesitation taking "your" women, the least you can do is return the favor. Jeezus.
    , @Trinity
    Yeah, I have never gotten the whole yellow fever thing with a lot White guys. I guess everyone is different and that is what makes the world go round. IMO, White women, particularly brunettes are numero uno, just my taste. Matter of fact the only other type of female that I find attractive is light skinned Hispanics. Of course, there are attractive and not so attractive in every group, but just speaking in general here. Most Oriental women are too petite and not enough curves, and the only thing about them that I find attractive for the most part is their hair, they have the best hair out there I will give them that.
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    For a while I dated an Asian girl who had an extraordinary DNA/cultural mix: several generations of French-Vietnamese intermixed with an occasional sprinkling of Swedish missionaries and Irish ne'er-do-wells. She got the best of everybody's side: Asian delicacy, a Nordic figure, French fashion sense and an Irish sense of humor. I told her she should have her DNA trademarked, like a fine wine or a reserve coffee blend.

    But imagine if every coin had come up tails: Asian stick-figure, Nordic hulkiness, French prissiness, Irish self-pitying alcoholism. Yoiks. The whole hapa routine is quite the gamble.
  71. @BenKenobi
    Well she’s clearly going for that no-makeup Juche-chic look.

    I’m sure she would doll-up real nice if a beautician ever got to her.

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.
     
    No way. That North Korean looks like a cruel James Bond movie villainess.

    The President of Finland is the best-looking world leader.

    https://www.ts.fi/static/content/pic_5_3526482_k2115720_1200.jpg
    , @Stebbing Heuer
    You deserve a cheer for that pic:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIH8PSg4yi8
    , @The Alarmist
    She has a look that says, I know where the bodies are buried.

    Could it be that Mr. Trump made nice to Mr. Kim for a chance to cozy up to her?
    , @nglaer
    And we could have had Tulsi.
    , @fish
    She really needs her "war paint"!
  72. @fish

    Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.
     
    I've heard it said that anesthesia doesn't "put you to sleep", it kills you..... but only to the point where there remains a reasonable chance of being revived.

    Exactly… been there done that… One anethesiologist kills you and another brings you back. If they know you are good candidate and you have a good sense of humour they will tell you what their jobs really entail at your pre-op.. They make no bones about the seriousness of it all. Heart stents are no laffing matter. I was very lucky both were young impressionable white docs. Its funny when its a filthy dog eating dictator getting it done though.

    Not sure what the fat little bastards death will mean to the free world except that Rocket Man is dead.
    Sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for.

    • Replies: @vhrm

    Not sure what the fat little bastards death will mean to the free world except that Rocket Man is dead.
    Sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for.
     
    With our anti Russia efforts creating Taliban
    and anti-Iran creating Saddam and anti-Saddam creating ISIS...
    we should be careful

    But a reunited Korea sure send like it would be nice.
    It would relieve so much unnecessary suffering...

    It would be worth at least $1T of the $nT we've incurred in the past two months.

  73. @Anonymous
    Send in Dennis Rodman

    Send in Dennis Rodman

    And Jimmy Carter.

  74. @Hodag
    Even for a fat dude, that is pretty young to die. Even a smoker.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    Or it all faked by the Norks. I have no way of making an accurate prediction.

    Not only the smoking but the chocolate-dipped French crullers = ⚰️

  75. @prosa123
    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    North Korea has executed dissidents by antiaircraft gun and by flamethrower. I wonder what they used for the surgeon.

    Yes, God help the doctor if the alleged death was due to botched surgery.

  76. Since he is a God he has to, like in The Man Who Would Be King, hide it when he is ill or injured. He would
    therefore disappear both whether sick or dead, and so one can guess he is just sick based on probability. But who knows?

  77. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    His sister’s looking pretty good…

    People keep saying that, but I think she looks like a smug ghoul.

    I’m pretty sure Our Man in Pyongyang is deceased, alas. I had assumed the DPRK was too patriarchal/”traditionalist” (ahem) to be open to a female leader, but it seems that one of the last and most prominent Korean leaders (prior to the 1910 Japanese conquest of Korea, that is) was a woman. The Japanese actually assassinated her in 1895, thus indicating she was an obstacle to their ambitions, and is likely well-regarded on both sides of the 38th parallel. So I suspect that makes it far more likely his sister would be accepted as the new supreme leader.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Myeongseong

    • Replies: @Gimeiyo
    I think the Empress Myeong has been retconned into a hero of Korean history largely due to the need to make Japan the villain. She came from the Min clan. The king's father picked her as his son's consort in the belief that her family was sufficiently insignificant that he could avoid the kind of kleptocratic misgovernment that had plagued Korea earlier in the 19th century. He was mistaken. Through her, many of her kinsmen exercised immense influence in government.

    While not quite as comically awful as the Andong Kim clan, who looted the country earlier in the 19th century, they seem to have been pretty bad. In the 1890's, there were a series of massive peasant revolts. Among their objectives? "Kill every member of the Min clan." Even earlier, during the 1882 Imo Incident, protesters forced their way into the royal palace, looking for her so they could kill her for the the Min clan's corruption and oppression. They killed a number of people, but couldn't catch her. For some reason, I thought there was another unsuccessful attempt on her life by revolutionaries shortly before the Eulmi Incident (when she was assassinated by Japanese agents), but I must be confusing the timeframe of the Imo incident.

    Anyway, long stort short -- yes, she's viewed as a modernising martyress of Korean history now, but I think her commoner contemporaries had a . . . very different view of her. Not to say her political opponents were any better. Neither she nor anyone else in politics in that era seem to have had either principles or scruples. It was a horrible time in Korean history. I would say it was the worst time in Korean history, except then we had Syngman Rhee and Kim Il-Sung instituting mass purges and executions on a scale that dwarfed all prior purges, like the Sarim literati purges, Six Martyred Ministers or even the 105 Man Incident.
    , @jim jones
    Will China invade when Fatboy dies?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp2wh5bmxPk
  78. @fish

    Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.
     
    I've heard it said that anesthesia doesn't "put you to sleep", it kills you..... but only to the point where there remains a reasonable chance of being revived.


    They give you the injection and tell you to count backwards from ten. Two seconds later the clock is ticking and if the anesthesiologist (who you do not normally see) is too slow intubating you (cannot find the place to get the tube in) you will die. I read about this happening to someone who had had a general anesthetic before and insisted on having it for a routine orthopedic operation. He had a young paki female anesthesiologist; and she didn’t get the tube in and he died.

    Two days after reading this in the paper it almost happened to me. The anesthesiologist was an older white consultant and came and saw me later to give me a letter for warning I was very difficult to intubate, and maybe curious to see the fellow who almost gave gave him a heart attack. He was a calm silver haired doctor, but looked a little bit shell shocked. If he had been off working on his handicap and someone less experienced was there in his stead, who knows?

    • Replies: @Morton's toes

    So it was something of a surprise to learn, in early February, that Peterson had spent eight days in a medically induced coma at an unnamed clinic in Russia...
     
    https://newrepublic.com/article/156829/happened-jordan-peterson

    This was a rather amazing report that there are Russian doctors supposedly using coma to treat drug addiction. And when I say amazing what I mean is the facts must be a lot different than what they are reporting.
  79. @Anonymous
    Will Trump Daddy attend the Fune ?

    Will Trump Daddy attend the Fune ?

    I would bet money that he will. I certainly hope so. It could be an important opportunity.

    If he doesn’t, it will be due to concern over the Kung Flu.

  80. Reportedly, Kim is in a vegetative state after heart surgery. Fat Boy Kim’s weapon of choice appeared to be fried dumplings.

    In an unrelated story: top North Korean cardiac surgeon killed in freak artillery accident.

    • LOL: bruce county
  81. @Reg Cæsar
    Is Miss Hyon still alive, or has Marie Osmond been hired to impersonate her?


    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5MT59PT8vhY/WQQZgTE00mI/AAAAAAAAmy4/_wMn7GLyJaUSkTXyqhNFq-BiZROO5GIaACLcB/s400/Hyon%2BSong-wol-1.jpg

    I didn’t know that Lawrence Welk broadcasted a show from North Korea.

  82. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    At long last doth Katharine post some pictures, and they do not rise to the standard quality found in Town & Country! Ballocks and great balderdash! How COULD you do such a thing?

    At least have the decency of posting some nice pictures of Kylie, Kendal, or Kim to wash the taste out from having had to gaze upon this dry sour vinegar! Asian fever, me luv u long time, indeed! If THIS is what passes for hotness from the Hermit Kingdom then pickings are really slim over there indeed.

    What in the world pray tell IS that anyway?

    There was no need for posting such outrageous things on a site such as this.

    Someone doth appear to be a’slippin, Katharine, and afraid in this instance, it is you.

    EWWWWWWW!!!!!!

    • LOL: Kronos
    • Replies: @syonredux
    My personal preferences are more along the lines of Twin Peaks era Joan Chen....


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/be/04/b3be04798175659a04a7bde8b6b23054.jpg



    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/70/b5/46/70b5467666a2d0e47b6dc333503ef776.jpg


    http://highlighthollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/twinpeaks-josie.png

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bf/92/b5/bf92b568db5f7862b22d12cf248fe25b--chen-red-carpet.jpg
  83. @James Speaks
    Kim Jong-Un, son of Kim Jung-Il, is now Kim Jong Dead. He will be replaced by Kim Jong-Im

    https://youtu.be/8CvYBx0qEbk

    North Korean TV Live Broadcast. Window On Another World.

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    This is real time ?
  84. @Bernard
    He’s a goner. Hope she’s less competently evil.

    If he’s dead, she’ll probably be dead by 2022.

  85. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    🌳👔🔨

  86. OT: Amusing side effect of Covid-19. It’s choked the fentanyl and meth drug trade. Apparently, a lot is made in Wuhan and shipped to Mexico, where smugglers moved it into the US.

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-04-24/wuhan-china-coronavirus-fentanyl-global-drug-trade

    “There’s no great loss without some small gain.”

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    Another industry devastated by offshoring production to cheap Asian labor.
  87. I’m feeling conspiranoic today.. he’s dead, assasinated, the sister/others are jostling for power and hiding the truth from the Orange man while they get China’s official blessing.

  88. @ATate
    What’s with the fetishization of this chick? She’s not even reasonably attractive “for an Asian”.

    Admittedly I’m not attracted to Asians...at all. Spent a year in the Marines between Okinawa, Japan and South Korea and find Asian women to be...weird and not attractive.

    Anyway, she’s not even close to being cute let alone hot. Punchable for sure.

    I kind of agree with you. She’s quite plain for an Asian, even one in her 30’s. As for the rest of your comment, it’s all down to personal preference I guess. On the one hand you have feminine, slender females with hair only where you’d want it and on the other hand you have aggressive, argumentative manbeasts with lumberjack shoulders and hair everywhere except for the one place it would provide for a nice ornament. It truly is a fantastic world where both species of female have their admirers, and I sincerely and heartily applaud every man who has a preference for the species I’m not fond of and leaves my targets alone!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I prefer all sizes, shapes, ages or hues of women, so long as they’re Asian. 👊
  89. @fish

    Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.
     
    I've heard it said that anesthesia doesn't "put you to sleep", it kills you..... but only to the point where there remains a reasonable chance of being revived.

    That has been said but it’s at best wildly misleading. Anesthesia is not death; it’s a reversible, medication-driven coma. Under general anesthesia your heart is still beating (except in the very special case of circulatory arrest for certain heart operations), your lungs are still exchanging gases (again except during some portions of some heart operations), you’re driven to breathe either by a ventilator or surprisingly often under your own power, the other organs are functioning to some extent (kidneys, liver, adrenals, peripheral nervous system basically intact, less so the GI tract). Your muscles may (or may not) be paralyzed, but it’s really only the central nervous system that is necessarily depressed.
    The “medically-induced coma” they always mention on the news after major trauma or other medical condition is exactly general anesthesia, except in the ICU instead of the OR.

  90. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    She has a smug dragon lady look.

    • Agree: vhrm
    • Replies: @syonredux

    She has a smug dragon lady look.
     
    http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/dragonlady.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8b/9b/24/8b9b245bb8bc6594ebad9477a59a909c--dragon-lady-classic-comics.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/e6/ef/47e6ef31c24a007b11c297ed7645362f.jpg



    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3f/b6/b3/3fb6b32d1b373ad4b7ba1cfa4b5fd338--dragon-lady-figure-drawing.jpg
  91. He’s not dead, he’s pulling a Stalinesque fast one on his overly ambitious underlings. When they think he’s dead, they’ll begin to jockey for position. He’ll pop back to life and kill all of the most obnoxious.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    Right, that was a Mao favorite. He invited dissent, saying

    “Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend.”

    He sent everyone who disagreed with him to “re-education” camps.
  92. • LOL: vhrm, Glt
    • Replies: @vhrm
    That's pretty good!
    (took me a second)

    I wonder who the other one is.

    , @Anon
    I have flunked the Rorschach test. What the heck is that?
  93. @Cato
    He's not dead, he's pulling a Stalinesque fast one on his overly ambitious underlings. When they think he's dead, they'll begin to jockey for position. He'll pop back to life and kill all of the most obnoxious.

    Right, that was a Mao favorite. He invited dissent, saying

    “Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend.”

    He sent everyone who disagreed with him to “re-education” camps.

  94. @bruce county
    Exactly... been there done that... One anethesiologist kills you and another brings you back. If they know you are good candidate and you have a good sense of humour they will tell you what their jobs really entail at your pre-op.. They make no bones about the seriousness of it all. Heart stents are no laffing matter. I was very lucky both were young impressionable white docs. Its funny when its a filthy dog eating dictator getting it done though.

    Not sure what the fat little bastards death will mean to the free world except that Rocket Man is dead.
    Sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for.

    Not sure what the fat little bastards death will mean to the free world except that Rocket Man is dead.
    Sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for.

    With our anti Russia efforts creating Taliban
    and anti-Iran creating Saddam and anti-Saddam creating ISIS…
    we should be careful

    But a reunited Korea sure send like it would be nice.
    It would relieve so much unnecessary suffering…

    It would be worth at least $1T of the $nT we’ve incurred in the past two months.

  95. Save his nose. Maybe China can clone Kim Jong-Deux.

  96. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    The upward curl in her lips indicates to me a sense of humor, dark as it may be. Also, intelligence, which her doughbro may lack.

  97. @syonredux

    Every North Korean has a lean and hungry look…

     

    Fearless Leader is, shall we say, un-lean.....

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/nintchdbpict000071087197.jpg

    That’s a great hat. Is that guy the Chef of Staff?

  98. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/grindingpoet/status/1253759688166068227?s=21

    That’s pretty good!
    (took me a second)

    I wonder who the other one is.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    I think it was cut out of the second image.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    That’s pretty good!
    (took me a second)


    It took me almost a minute, I'm afraid.
  99. @Servant of Gla'aki

    His sister’s looking pretty good…
     
    People keep saying that, but I think she looks like a smug ghoul.

    I'm pretty sure Our Man in Pyongyang is deceased, alas. I had assumed the DPRK was too patriarchal/"traditionalist" (ahem) to be open to a female leader, but it seems that one of the last and most prominent Korean leaders (prior to the 1910 Japanese conquest of Korea, that is) was a woman. The Japanese actually assassinated her in 1895, thus indicating she was an obstacle to their ambitions, and is likely well-regarded on both sides of the 38th parallel. So I suspect that makes it far more likely his sister would be accepted as the new supreme leader.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Myeongseong

    I think the Empress Myeong has been retconned into a hero of Korean history largely due to the need to make Japan the villain. She came from the Min clan. The king’s father picked her as his son’s consort in the belief that her family was sufficiently insignificant that he could avoid the kind of kleptocratic misgovernment that had plagued Korea earlier in the 19th century. He was mistaken. Through her, many of her kinsmen exercised immense influence in government.

    While not quite as comically awful as the Andong Kim clan, who looted the country earlier in the 19th century, they seem to have been pretty bad. In the 1890’s, there were a series of massive peasant revolts. Among their objectives? “Kill every member of the Min clan.” Even earlier, during the 1882 Imo Incident, protesters forced their way into the royal palace, looking for her so they could kill her for the the Min clan’s corruption and oppression. They killed a number of people, but couldn’t catch her. For some reason, I thought there was another unsuccessful attempt on her life by revolutionaries shortly before the Eulmi Incident (when she was assassinated by Japanese agents), but I must be confusing the timeframe of the Imo incident.

    Anyway, long stort short — yes, she’s viewed as a modernising martyress of Korean history now, but I think her commoner contemporaries had a . . . very different view of her. Not to say her political opponents were any better. Neither she nor anyone else in politics in that era seem to have had either principles or scruples. It was a horrible time in Korean history. I would say it was the worst time in Korean history, except then we had Syngman Rhee and Kim Il-Sung instituting mass purges and executions on a scale that dwarfed all prior purges, like the Sarim literati purges, Six Martyred Ministers or even the 105 Man Incident.

    • Thanks: Servant of Gla'aki
  100. Anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous (n)
    I kind of agree with you. She's quite plain for an Asian, even one in her 30's. As for the rest of your comment, it's all down to personal preference I guess. On the one hand you have feminine, slender females with hair only where you'd want it and on the other hand you have aggressive, argumentative manbeasts with lumberjack shoulders and hair everywhere except for the one place it would provide for a nice ornament. It truly is a fantastic world where both species of female have their admirers, and I sincerely and heartily applaud every man who has a preference for the species I'm not fond of and leaves my targets alone!

    I prefer all sizes, shapes, ages or hues of women, so long as they’re Asian. 👊

  101. Anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/ebsNhM9P.jpeg

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.

    No way. That North Korean looks like a cruel James Bond movie villainess.

    The President of Finland is the best-looking world leader.

    • Replies: @res
    Prime Minister of Finland. Not President.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/finland-leader-world-youngest-pm-34-191209080354618.html

    This is the President.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Finland
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Not bad, not bad. Now that's a picture worth posting. Finland's PM kind of looks like an older sister of US starlet Lana Rhoades. It's in the eyes, same blue steel coloring.
    , @AnotherDad
    Your nation is in deep trouble when that is what your "leader" looks like.

    Here's what a leader should look like:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n#/media/File:Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n_Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg

  102. Anon[389] • Disclaimer says:

    We have two solid points of data about Rocketboy’s condition. One, China sent a team of doctors, which means Rocketboy does indeed have a medical problem, and secondly, if the home team could deal with it, they would not have asked for help. Nork doctors asked for help because it’s beyond them.

    It’s possible Rocketboy has Covid-19. People tend to forget that a guy like Fatboy has a lot of servants. He could easily have 200 of them. They would provide everything for him from scheduling, transportation, security, food, lodging arrangements, cleaning, minding his clothes, running errands, buying him trinkets, providing entertainment, moving his favorite pillow around with him, etc., etc.

    Each servant could have interactions with at least half a dozen outsiders a day, and what’s more half a dozen different outsiders a day, if Rocketboy’s been travelling around the country. This means there are hundreds of ways Covid-19 could have vectored into the Nork leader. Because of their entourage, elites have a lot of contact points.

    Fatboy also has the sort of medical conditions that we see showing up as Covid-19 co-morbidities. He’s obese, and likely has diabetes type 2 and hypertension.

    If Nork doctors just copied the fad treatment that other doctors are using around the world for a Covid-19 patient who’s pretty sick and stuck him on a ventilator in a drug-induced coma, this may be why the rumor is going out that he’s ‘vegetative.’ We do know that if you’re in that state, your odds are not good. Maybe not more than 20% chance of survival.

    • Agree: Momus
  103. @vhrm
    That's pretty good!
    (took me a second)

    I wonder who the other one is.

    I think it was cut out of the second image.

  104. @Anonymous

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.
     
    No way. That North Korean looks like a cruel James Bond movie villainess.

    The President of Finland is the best-looking world leader.

    https://www.ts.fi/static/content/pic_5_3526482_k2115720_1200.jpg
  105. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/grindingpoet/status/1253759688166068227?s=21

    I have flunked the Rorschach test. What the heck is that?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    It’s a map purporting to show active users of Steam, which I think is some sort of video game platform. There are three users indicated in North Korea in the first map and two in the second map.
  106. @Clifford Brown
    North Korean TV Live Broadcast. Window On Another World.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0TLBUvBV0&feature=emb_title

    This is real time ?

  107. @vhrm
    That's pretty good!
    (took me a second)

    I wonder who the other one is.

    That’s pretty good!
    (took me a second)

    It took me almost a minute, I’m afraid.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    if we're going to be literal about it, it was double digit seconds for me too :-)

    Just meant that it wasn't immediately apparent (to me).
  108. Anonymous[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    She’s cute, but disturbingly she looks like Martin Shkreli. They even have a similar sallow pallor similar hairlines. And they have that same smug smirk. It’s uncanny.

    https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aV3DZmn_700bwp.webp

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    She's not blessed with Shkreli's 5 o'clock shadow!
    , @Kronos
    Is smiling publicly in Asia still a dealbreaker for leaders? Many Asian monarchies frowned (hee hee) on smiling in public on the basis it signified they were still strongly tied to the material world.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ad/Kingneversmile.jpg

    https://www.insidehook.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/MacArthur_Hirohito_11_06_18-e1541646103875-1.jpg?fit=1800%2C1123
    , @Pericles

    She’s cute, but disturbingly she looks like Martin Shkreli. They even have a similar sallow pallor similar hairlines. And they have that same smug smirk. It’s uncanny.

     

    OK, Shkreli you Hillary-joking bastard, so you want early release. Well, what do you know, you're in luck today. All you have to do is one last mission.
  109. @J1234

    I’m not attracted to Asians…at all.
     
    Not all Asians are created equal...at least in terms of attractiveness. Not going to pretend to be knowledgeable with regards to Asia, but Korea seems to have the most attractive women of the Far East. This is because (in my opinion) they more closely resemble Europeans (north central Europe, or maybe Celtic people) than other people of the Far East. I'm not saying they look like Europeans.

    They are followed by the Japanese (some of them are knockouts) and various populations in the Philippines, Thailand and maybe a few (but not many) in China. The rest of Asia I find somewhat unattractive, though not repulsively so. Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn't belong to me, so I've never been interested in Asian women personally.

    I’ve spent time in all the countries you’ve listed and almost nobody who has any experience in the region would say Southeast Asians like Thais and Pinays can hold a candle to any of the Northeast Asians, Chinese included. Furthermore, while many would agree that Koreans are the cream of the crop, nobody would suggest it’s because there is any resemblance to Europeans. If anything, Koreans are the epitome of the wide faced Mongoloid phenotype.

    But this just took me completely aback:

    Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me, so I’ve never been interested in Asian women personally.

    I can’t imagine being this cucked! I don’t say that to be offensive, I just can’t describe the attitude you’ve expressed here with any other word. Outsiders have no hesitation taking “your” women, the least you can do is return the favor. Jeezus.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder. If the dude isn't into Asians, that's his preference. Also, from a linguistic standpoint, the Korean language shares a faint relation to Finnish. Don't know if that's due to the Mongols conquests into Asia and Eastern Europe many centuries ago or what. And that Japanese women can hold their own vs the Koreans. Just ask them.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Filipinas seem more likely to have rounder eyes and curves than Koreans, presumably because of European admixture. But a lot of Koreans get plastic surgery.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    Mongolian women are very attractive - at least the ones I've met. Like Koreans but taller. Chinese of Manchurian descent are attractive for similar reasons. Japanese woman often suffer from "daikon legs" - that is stubby legs with thick calves.

    When I was in college the Korean-American women I knew were far more enthusiastic about liberal sexual experimentation than Chinese-Americans (who seemed pretty repressed). That may contribute to the Korean reputation for "beauty". Korean men also come off as more masculine than Chinese or Japanese men. Would be interesting to know if Koreans just have higher libidos for some reason. Maybe they are the Persians of East Asia.
    , @J1234
    "I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me...." isn't a statement of unilateral respect (and therefore for subordination to) the other, but of implicit mutual respect, since respect seems to be an important value in some Asian countries, some of which have a history of valuing their ethnic origins. More that that, it's a statement of fidelity to my own. Also, the other-people-mate-with-our-women-so-we should-mate-with-theirs philosophy you seem to adhere to seems to be a pretty strong example of "cucked" in popular usage. Maybe you've corrupted the word to exclude your own behavior? I mean, by your own admission, you have spent a lot of time in Asia.

    Anyway, "beauty" (even in women) is something that's aesthetic rather than biologically compelling. A gazelle is beautiful, but I don't want to have sex with it. As to Mongolian women? They aren't attractive at all to me, from the pictures I've seen. They remind me of American Indian women, who some may find attractive in pure form, but I certainly don't.

  110. @Harry Baldwin
    That’s pretty good!
    (took me a second)


    It took me almost a minute, I'm afraid.

    if we’re going to be literal about it, it was double digit seconds for me too 🙂

    Just meant that it wasn’t immediately apparent (to me).

  111. @Anonymous

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.
     
    No way. That North Korean looks like a cruel James Bond movie villainess.

    The President of Finland is the best-looking world leader.

    https://www.ts.fi/static/content/pic_5_3526482_k2115720_1200.jpg

    Not bad, not bad. Now that’s a picture worth posting. Finland’s PM kind of looks like an older sister of US starlet Lana Rhoades. It’s in the eyes, same blue steel coloring.

    • Replies: @Sean
    You might as well assume a starlet has natural blonde hair. Lana Rhodes is all artificial enhancements prolly including her eyes (coloured contacts are very common) and she must be well into her thirties. The sad thing is an all natural like Lena Paul cannot compete and her body looks weird .


    The supreme leader takes his pick and you don't need many generations of that to produce real beauties. I do wonder what effect it has on the male line Kims' mental stability to be so skewed toward very feminine through their mother's genes. That kind of thing must be the downfall of many dynasties.

  112. @Anonymous
    She's cute, but disturbingly she looks like Martin Shkreli. They even have a similar sallow pallor similar hairlines. And they have that same smug smirk. It's uncanny.

    https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aV3DZmn_700bwp.webp

    She’s not blessed with Shkreli’s 5 o’clock shadow!

  113. @Anonymous (n)
    I've spent time in all the countries you've listed and almost nobody who has any experience in the region would say Southeast Asians like Thais and Pinays can hold a candle to any of the Northeast Asians, Chinese included. Furthermore, while many would agree that Koreans are the cream of the crop, nobody would suggest it's because there is any resemblance to Europeans. If anything, Koreans are the epitome of the wide faced Mongoloid phenotype.

    But this just took me completely aback:

    Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me, so I’ve never been interested in Asian women personally.
     

    I can't imagine being this cucked! I don't say that to be offensive, I just can't describe the attitude you've expressed here with any other word. Outsiders have no hesitation taking "your" women, the least you can do is return the favor. Jeezus.

    Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder. If the dude isn’t into Asians, that’s his preference. Also, from a linguistic standpoint, the Korean language shares a faint relation to Finnish. Don’t know if that’s due to the Mongols conquests into Asia and Eastern Europe many centuries ago or what. And that Japanese women can hold their own vs the Koreans. Just ask them.

  114. • LOL: fish
  115. @nebulafox
    >North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family.

    Our relationship with the Saudis or Pakistanis is a good analogy for the Chinese relationship with the DPRK: they don't like them, but they are stuck with them.

    Just because the ideology of the North Korean government is irrational doesn't mean that they themselves are, though.

    everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family.

    Kim Il Sung (Grandpa) had plenty of fathered children out of wedlock. Many are high ranking official (bastards) in the North Korean military and communist party. It truly is a dynasty. It’s also amazing he lived so long. Both Mao and Chiang Kai-shek contracted many nasty STDs over the years that impacted their respective health.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Hold on. Mao lived to the ripe age of 82, and Chiang made it to the age of 87. Perhaps one should look with some amount of skepticism at studies that make the claims that acquiring most STDs that are non-HIV do in fact directly impact one's personal health by reducing one's life. Observing from the examples of both Mao and Chiang, apparently not sufficiently enough to shorten one's lifespan.
  116. If the surgeon did screw up and turn the Dear Leader into a permanent vegetable, or killed him, then the surgeon may not be executed but may be rewarded handsomely by the ambitious succeeding new Dear Leader, and then, after being given a new fake identity, be shown out of North Korea to a nice Swiss chalet.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Maybe...

    But I’m still thinking of this.

    https://youtu.be/2wcI10CNuxU
  117. @Anonymous
    She's cute, but disturbingly she looks like Martin Shkreli. They even have a similar sallow pallor similar hairlines. And they have that same smug smirk. It's uncanny.

    https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aV3DZmn_700bwp.webp

    Is smiling publicly in Asia still a dealbreaker for leaders? Many Asian monarchies frowned (hee hee) on smiling in public on the basis it signified they were still strongly tied to the material world.

    https://www.insidehook.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/MacArthur_Hirohito_11_06_18-e1541646103875-1.jpg?fit=1800%2C1123

  118. @Auntie Analogue
    If the surgeon did screw up and turn the Dear Leader into a permanent vegetable, or killed him, then the surgeon may not be executed but may be rewarded handsomely by the ambitious succeeding new Dear Leader, and then, after being given a new fake identity, be shown out of North Korea to a nice Swiss chalet.

    Maybe…

    But I’m still thinking of this.

  119. @Anonymous
    She's cute, but disturbingly she looks like Martin Shkreli. They even have a similar sallow pallor similar hairlines. And they have that same smug smirk. It's uncanny.

    https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aV3DZmn_700bwp.webp

    She’s cute, but disturbingly she looks like Martin Shkreli. They even have a similar sallow pallor similar hairlines. And they have that same smug smirk. It’s uncanny.

    OK, Shkreli you Hillary-joking bastard, so you want early release. Well, what do you know, you’re in luck today. All you have to do is one last mission.

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  120. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/38NorthNK/status/1254117522384850946

    Presumably this train cannot move unless he is personally on it then. I mean, the wouldn’t think up something cunning like “let’s send his train to such-and-such, so the Yankee Kremlinologists can fall on the satellite images like a pack of starving feral dogs”

  121. @syonredux

    Every North Korean has a lean and hungry look…

     

    Fearless Leader is, shall we say, un-lean.....

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/nintchdbpict000071087197.jpg

    Kim was on the “see food diet.” The only diet people can stick to.

    • LOL: Cortes
  122. @anon
    She just needs better clothing and maybe something to put on her head.
    Like this.

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71X43S0DmkL._SL1091_.jpg

    something to put on her head

  123. @Anonymous (n)
    I've spent time in all the countries you've listed and almost nobody who has any experience in the region would say Southeast Asians like Thais and Pinays can hold a candle to any of the Northeast Asians, Chinese included. Furthermore, while many would agree that Koreans are the cream of the crop, nobody would suggest it's because there is any resemblance to Europeans. If anything, Koreans are the epitome of the wide faced Mongoloid phenotype.

    But this just took me completely aback:

    Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me, so I’ve never been interested in Asian women personally.
     

    I can't imagine being this cucked! I don't say that to be offensive, I just can't describe the attitude you've expressed here with any other word. Outsiders have no hesitation taking "your" women, the least you can do is return the favor. Jeezus.

    Filipinas seem more likely to have rounder eyes and curves than Koreans, presumably because of European admixture. But a lot of Koreans get plastic surgery.

    • Replies: @Jeff
    Agreed. I haven't been to Japan but have been to China, Korea, Thailand, and the Philippines. Everybody has their own opinion, but to me the Koreans have the most hotties, hands down. How much of that is due to the prevalence of plastic surgery, I don't know. I'd say they're taller and with a thinner waist than many other asians, which gives them a good head start when it comes to being attractive.

    I went for days in Chengdu without seeing a single lady that would be a 9 or 10.

    Thailand has lots of pretty ladies as well. Philippines has some, but it's clear to me that's a result of some mixture of Spanish and/or Chinese or Korean genes mixed in. The true natives are not hot.

    Shit, I'd go as far to say that the high-rent areas in Korea are approaching Ukraine levels of hot ladies, but I'd expect plenty of guys to disagree.
  124. @Colin Wright
    You gotta root for the girl to become Ruthless Dictator IV.

    Then we can watch the fucking media try to pretend she's wonderful.

    Nah, all the females in the media will turn bitchy when they realize the guys consider her hot.

    • Agree: Inverness
  125. @Anon
    I have flunked the Rorschach test. What the heck is that?

    It’s a map purporting to show active users of Steam, which I think is some sort of video game platform. There are three users indicated in North Korea in the first map and two in the second map.

  126. @Servant of Gla'aki

    His sister’s looking pretty good…
     
    People keep saying that, but I think she looks like a smug ghoul.

    I'm pretty sure Our Man in Pyongyang is deceased, alas. I had assumed the DPRK was too patriarchal/"traditionalist" (ahem) to be open to a female leader, but it seems that one of the last and most prominent Korean leaders (prior to the 1910 Japanese conquest of Korea, that is) was a woman. The Japanese actually assassinated her in 1895, thus indicating she was an obstacle to their ambitions, and is likely well-regarded on both sides of the 38th parallel. So I suspect that makes it far more likely his sister would be accepted as the new supreme leader.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Myeongseong

    Will China invade when Fatboy dies?

    • Replies: @fish

    Will China invade when Fatboy dies?
     
    Do they need more bad press at this point?
    , @Sean
    Korea has a history of wily diplomacy that in the period when China was weak resulted in the other major regional powers unsuccessfully contending over it. World War One had something to do with Korea finally being snatched from the overlordship of China.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/how-is-north-korean-dictator-kim-jong-un-doing/#comment-3860593

    China has sent a team to North Korea including medical experts to check on Kim Jong-un, according to three people familiar with the situation.

    The trip by the Chinese doctors and officials comes amid conflicting reports about the health of the North Korean ruler. It was not immediately clear what the trip by the Chinese team signalled in terms of Kim’s health.

    A delegation led by a senior member of the Chinese Communist party’s international liaison department left Beijing for North Korea on Thursday, two of the people told Reuters.
     

    He trusts Chinese doctors to be around him, which proves that China stands behind everything Kim does because he knows not to overstep the mark, Historically, Korea has not been a country free to conclude alliances China did not approve of. To Xi, the Kim dynasty is the CCP's boy (or girl), and a cat's paw to be used as a wedge against Trump. North Korea is a vassal state of China that survives as semi independent because that suits China. People who forget that ancient reality suffer the fate of MacArthur.
  127. @Anon
    https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/ebsNhM9P.jpeg

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.

    You deserve a cheer for that pic:

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  128. @PennTothal

    Probably sharing a hot pot with his Dictatrix-in-waiting hottie sister and laughing himself silly as The Empire impodes.
     
    Yup:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItlMv5w4N5o&feature=youtu.be

    It seems like no matter how esoteric the cultural, political, or historic reference, another iSteve reader will know something similar or relevant.

  129. @tyrone
    Where's the body double ……. every world leader should have at least three, like Stalin.

    Where’s the body double ……. every world leader should have at least three, like Stalin.

    Maybe North Korea doesn’t have enough surplus food to fatten up three more like him.

  130. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Karlin’s comment section:

    Songbird

    She’s quite attractive for the sister of a world leader. What other world leader even has a sister that is still fertile? Have you seen Trump’s sister? If I were in high school, and she was my teacher, I would rank her (Kim Yo-jong) #2 or #3. Probably #2 – at least by that pic.

    Lars Porsena

    And you would be torn apart by wild dogs for your insolence. She is clearly #1.
     

    I know this is just fun, but- one man’s 5 is another man’s 10.

  131. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    She looks like the class struggle face lady got jaundice. The lack of eyelashes is disturbing. She also has huge lesbian ears that stick out to the side like Andy Griffith.

  132. There are various degrees of possibility for responsible and even necessary speculation but Nork information controls defeat them all. Nobody really knows and there’s no reason to worry about it (or to believe the infamously loopy Japanese tabloids, or TMZ).

  133. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    I have nothing to add but everyone else has replied to your post and I didn’t want to be left out.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
    • LOL: black sea
  134. @Dr. Doom
    Rocket Man had a bad ticker. He had a coronary and is said to be in a coma. Chinese doctors have been dispatched to try to help. Kim Jong Un is not expected to survive and may already be considered braindead.

    Kim Jong Un is not expected to survive and may already be considered braindead.

    In the USA, that would qualify him to lead a major party ticket.

    We’re still in the early innings … Here’s one for Sublime Sundays:

  135. @Anon
    https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/ebsNhM9P.jpeg

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.

    She has a look that says, I know where the bodies are buried.

    Could it be that Mr. Trump made nice to Mr. Kim for a chance to cozy up to her?

  136. @AtxLibertarian
    Now would be a perfect time to fly a U2 at the borders of North Korea and China, and North Korea and Russia. It seems like our airspace always gets tested in uncertain or difficult times.

    Do we still have U2s? That was well over a half century ago.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    U2 aka "Dragon Lady" is STILL operational.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoNbRvDEqew
  137. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Not bad, not bad. Now that's a picture worth posting. Finland's PM kind of looks like an older sister of US starlet Lana Rhoades. It's in the eyes, same blue steel coloring.

    You might as well assume a starlet has natural blonde hair. Lana Rhodes is all artificial enhancements prolly including her eyes (coloured contacts are very common) and she must be well into her thirties. The sad thing is an all natural like Lena Paul cannot compete and her body looks weird .

    The supreme leader takes his pick and you don’t need many generations of that to produce real beauties. I do wonder what effect it has on the male line Kims’ mental stability to be so skewed toward very feminine through their mother’s genes. That kind of thing must be the downfall of many dynasties.

  138. @Anon
    https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/ebsNhM9P.jpeg

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.

    And we could have had Tulsi.

  139. @James Speaks
    I'm moved.

    hope you layed in a good supply of toilet paper.

  140. @Anonymous (n)
    I've spent time in all the countries you've listed and almost nobody who has any experience in the region would say Southeast Asians like Thais and Pinays can hold a candle to any of the Northeast Asians, Chinese included. Furthermore, while many would agree that Koreans are the cream of the crop, nobody would suggest it's because there is any resemblance to Europeans. If anything, Koreans are the epitome of the wide faced Mongoloid phenotype.

    But this just took me completely aback:

    Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me, so I’ve never been interested in Asian women personally.
     

    I can't imagine being this cucked! I don't say that to be offensive, I just can't describe the attitude you've expressed here with any other word. Outsiders have no hesitation taking "your" women, the least you can do is return the favor. Jeezus.

    Mongolian women are very attractive – at least the ones I’ve met. Like Koreans but taller. Chinese of Manchurian descent are attractive for similar reasons. Japanese woman often suffer from “daikon legs” – that is stubby legs with thick calves.

    When I was in college the Korean-American women I knew were far more enthusiastic about liberal sexual experimentation than Chinese-Americans (who seemed pretty repressed). That may contribute to the Korean reputation for “beauty”. Korean men also come off as more masculine than Chinese or Japanese men. Would be interesting to know if Koreans just have higher libidos for some reason. Maybe they are the Persians of East Asia.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Mongol_invasions_of_Korea

    Mongol invasions of Korea

    Just- they can't measure up to the Japanese ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb3gdUrIC4Q
  141. I heard the ladies down at Madam Park’s referred to him as Lil’ Kim and then giggled. But he is/was one big fat dude. I guess I don’t get the joke. Or something…

  142. @epebble
    Could it be Covid? I am surprised no Head of State has died from it (yet), though most of them are old, routinely shake hands etc., talk a lot and listen to a lot of talking, do a lot of travelling, meeting people.

    One of the Korean newspapers is reporting that he is sheltering because one of his top security gaurds came down with the Wu Flu.

    http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3076490&cloc=joongangdaily|home|top

  143. @Peter Akuleyev
    Mongolian women are very attractive - at least the ones I've met. Like Koreans but taller. Chinese of Manchurian descent are attractive for similar reasons. Japanese woman often suffer from "daikon legs" - that is stubby legs with thick calves.

    When I was in college the Korean-American women I knew were far more enthusiastic about liberal sexual experimentation than Chinese-Americans (who seemed pretty repressed). That may contribute to the Korean reputation for "beauty". Korean men also come off as more masculine than Chinese or Japanese men. Would be interesting to know if Koreans just have higher libidos for some reason. Maybe they are the Persians of East Asia.

    https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Mongol_invasions_of_Korea

    Mongol invasions of Korea

    Just- they can’t measure up to the Japanese ….

  144. @Anonymous

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.
     
    No way. That North Korean looks like a cruel James Bond movie villainess.

    The President of Finland is the best-looking world leader.

    https://www.ts.fi/static/content/pic_5_3526482_k2115720_1200.jpg

    Your nation is in deep trouble when that is what your “leader” looks like.

    Here’s what a leader should look like:

    • Replies: @jim jones
    Try this:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n_Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg/1024px-Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n_Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg
    , @res

    Here’s what a leader should look like:
     
    Wikipedia is annoying in having web pages that are named like images. You can tell them by the "File:" prefix in the link or by noticing the navigation/sizing controls etc. Just right click and open the image in a new tab. Then make sure that one really is an image before embedding. Here is Viktor Orbán.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n_Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg
    , @bruce county
    He speaks to a population that doesn't hate their country, their heritage.
  145. @J1234

    I’m not attracted to Asians…at all.
     
    Not all Asians are created equal...at least in terms of attractiveness. Not going to pretend to be knowledgeable with regards to Asia, but Korea seems to have the most attractive women of the Far East. This is because (in my opinion) they more closely resemble Europeans (north central Europe, or maybe Celtic people) than other people of the Far East. I'm not saying they look like Europeans.

    They are followed by the Japanese (some of them are knockouts) and various populations in the Philippines, Thailand and maybe a few (but not many) in China. The rest of Asia I find somewhat unattractive, though not repulsively so. Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn't belong to me, so I've never been interested in Asian women personally.

    Yeah, I have never gotten the whole yellow fever thing with a lot White guys. I guess everyone is different and that is what makes the world go round. IMO, White women, particularly brunettes are numero uno, just my taste. Matter of fact the only other type of female that I find attractive is light skinned Hispanics. Of course, there are attractive and not so attractive in every group, but just speaking in general here. Most Oriental women are too petite and not enough curves, and the only thing about them that I find attractive for the most part is their hair, they have the best hair out there I will give them that.

  146. @Hodag
    Even for a fat dude, that is pretty young to die. Even a smoker.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up. And no one could rescue it.

    Or it all faked by the Norks. I have no way of making an accurate prediction.

    My guess- the top NK surgeon tried a lap band or gastric bypass. And since it was probably his first one he screwed it up.

  147. @Sean
    He is getting some horizontal jogging in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/back-from-the-dead-kim-jong-uns-pop-star-ex-girlfriend-is-seen-alongside-north-korean-dictator-in-public-after-reports-she-was-executed-by-firing-squad-for-making-a-sex-tape/ar-AACD9uk
    Hyon Song-wol, who is known for propaganda hits like ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’ was seen this week touring factories with Chairman Kim, the Sunday Times of London reported.

    Hyon is the 42-year-old lead singer of Moranbong Band, an all-women group.

    She is also a member of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, which of course is chaired by Kim
    Hyon was photographed next to Kim as they visited factories. They were also side-by-side while watching the Mass Games gymnastics performance.

    There were reports that in 2013 Kim ordered Hyon’s execution after she allegedly made a sex tape.


     

    Nassim Taleb said in one of his books that a personal doctor can be dangerous. Kim must have several and they all would be likely to err on the side of caution in ordering tests and procedures. making a probability of overtreatment. Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family. I doubt there would be much of a change in policy. She certainly is not the type to take initiatives on her own account.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100951532558798848~/news/world-asia-47397700

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later--days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later–days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    To me it seems most likely that immediately after the trial and sentencing, Warmbier tried to hang himself, but was cut down and resuscitated, however not before he had suffered bilateral brain damage due to hypoxia.

    Now, whether the prison authorities kept this information from the political leadership, I do not know. When you have a setup where people often get sentenced to death at their quarterly job evaluation, they may sometime prevaricate to shed a better light on themselves.

    The post-mortem examination stated that his teeth were normal. I don’t know how anywone would be able to determine that they had been “rearranged with pliers”. Usually movements in the position of teeth would be the result of prolonged pressure.

    The parents refused to have an autopsy performed. Without knowing the exact reason, one has to respect their privacy in this matter and accept that they did what they thought was best.

    The parents were obviously, and rightfully, incredible distressed and angry when their son was returned in a vegetative state, so I would not take anything they said at the time as objective fact.

    Presumably they had also financed the trip to North Korea at their son’s request, so that must have weighed very heavily on them too, especially since this tour was advertised as “the tour you mother does not want you to take.”

    Something that has never really been discussed is how the Koreans knew it was Warmbier who attempted to steal the poster–apparently the video just showed an unidentifiable figure–and what his possible motive might have been. Stating that he was drunk hardly explains anything.

    Eyewitness accounts of his arrest at the airport did not say that he expressed surprise or outrage at being tapped on the shoulder and led away by two police officers.

    https://nextshark.com/otto-warmbier-north-korea-z-society/

    Interesting article here, especially at the bottom where it is claimed that Warmbier had been in North Korea two times before, which I have never seen reported anywhere else.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Interesting article here, especially at the bottom where it is claimed that Warmbier had been in North Korea two times before, which I have never seen reported anywhere else.
     
    I e-mailed the person quoted on this who is a professor in Australia and he promptly replied and said that this was an error and that he believed Warmbier had only been there one time.
  148. If he’s dead, do we get a quarter of their population too?

  149. @AnotherDad
    Your nation is in deep trouble when that is what your "leader" looks like.

    Here's what a leader should look like:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n#/media/File:Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n_Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg

    Try this:

  150. BRITISHBRAINSIZe1325cc he he=tiny

  151. North Korea’s dictator Kim Jong-Un = K. J.-Un mort. Corona. Rotting in Hades. ’K?

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    That's one 'elluvan effort, Desi. Thanks.
  152. @Anon
    https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/ebsNhM9P.jpeg

    She’d definitely be the best-looking world leader.

    She really needs her “war paint”!

  153. @Kronos

    everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family.
     
    Kim Il Sung (Grandpa) had plenty of fathered children out of wedlock. Many are high ranking official (bastards) in the North Korean military and communist party. It truly is a dynasty. It’s also amazing he lived so long. Both Mao and Chiang Kai-shek contracted many nasty STDs over the years that impacted their respective health.


    http://www.pauleijkemans.com/worldtrip/part30/medium/North%20Korea%20-%20Pyongyang%20-%20Childrens%20Palace%20-%20Mural%20(medium).jpg

    Hold on. Mao lived to the ripe age of 82, and Chiang made it to the age of 87. Perhaps one should look with some amount of skepticism at studies that make the claims that acquiring most STDs that are non-HIV do in fact directly impact one’s personal health by reducing one’s life. Observing from the examples of both Mao and Chiang, apparently not sufficiently enough to shorten one’s lifespan.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    According to this book Chiang Was effectively sterile in the 1930s. (Due to continuous STD exposer.)

    https://www.amazon.com/Mao-Story-Jung-Chang/dp/0679746323

    If I recall correctly, his only son was a de facto hostage in Soviet Russia at Moscow State University. Apparently, he didn’t immediately destroy the communists in the 1920s-1930s during the “Long March” due to fear of retaliation to the son.

    One of the worst curses to use in China is to say “may your family line die now sterile and barren.”

    Sure, both Chiang and Mao lived to an respectable old age but they suffered from various maladies. They lived long enough to see the magic of penicillin but they incurred std damage during their fun years. Mao’s corpse likely looks better now than in the last 15 years of his life.

  154. @jim jones
    Will China invade when Fatboy dies?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp2wh5bmxPk

    Will China invade when Fatboy dies?

    Do they need more bad press at this point?

  155. @Jonathan Mason

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later–days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.
     
    To me it seems most likely that immediately after the trial and sentencing, Warmbier tried to hang himself, but was cut down and resuscitated, however not before he had suffered bilateral brain damage due to hypoxia.

    Now, whether the prison authorities kept this information from the political leadership, I do not know. When you have a setup where people often get sentenced to death at their quarterly job evaluation, they may sometime prevaricate to shed a better light on themselves.

    The post-mortem examination stated that his teeth were normal. I don't know how anywone would be able to determine that they had been "rearranged with pliers". Usually movements in the position of teeth would be the result of prolonged pressure.

    The parents refused to have an autopsy performed. Without knowing the exact reason, one has to respect their privacy in this matter and accept that they did what they thought was best.

    The parents were obviously, and rightfully, incredible distressed and angry when their son was returned in a vegetative state, so I would not take anything they said at the time as objective fact.

    Presumably they had also financed the trip to North Korea at their son's request, so that must have weighed very heavily on them too, especially since this tour was advertised as "the tour you mother does not want you to take."

    Something that has never really been discussed is how the Koreans knew it was Warmbier who attempted to steal the poster--apparently the video just showed an unidentifiable figure--and what his possible motive might have been. Stating that he was drunk hardly explains anything.

    Eyewitness accounts of his arrest at the airport did not say that he expressed surprise or outrage at being tapped on the shoulder and led away by two police officers.

    https://nextshark.com/otto-warmbier-north-korea-z-society/

    Interesting article here, especially at the bottom where it is claimed that Warmbier had been in North Korea two times before, which I have never seen reported anywhere else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w0gCyqkQ4U

    Interesting article here, especially at the bottom where it is claimed that Warmbier had been in North Korea two times before, which I have never seen reported anywhere else.

    I e-mailed the person quoted on this who is a professor in Australia and he promptly replied and said that this was an error and that he believed Warmbier had only been there one time.

  156. @J1234

    I’m not attracted to Asians…at all.
     
    Not all Asians are created equal...at least in terms of attractiveness. Not going to pretend to be knowledgeable with regards to Asia, but Korea seems to have the most attractive women of the Far East. This is because (in my opinion) they more closely resemble Europeans (north central Europe, or maybe Celtic people) than other people of the Far East. I'm not saying they look like Europeans.

    They are followed by the Japanese (some of them are knockouts) and various populations in the Philippines, Thailand and maybe a few (but not many) in China. The rest of Asia I find somewhat unattractive, though not repulsively so. Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn't belong to me, so I've never been interested in Asian women personally.

    For a while I dated an Asian girl who had an extraordinary DNA/cultural mix: several generations of French-Vietnamese intermixed with an occasional sprinkling of Swedish missionaries and Irish ne’er-do-wells. She got the best of everybody’s side: Asian delicacy, a Nordic figure, French fashion sense and an Irish sense of humor. I told her she should have her DNA trademarked, like a fine wine or a reserve coffee blend.

    But imagine if every coin had come up tails: Asian stick-figure, Nordic hulkiness, French prissiness, Irish self-pitying alcoholism. Yoiks. The whole hapa routine is quite the gamble.

  157. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    Lizardly.

  158. @AnotherDad
    Your nation is in deep trouble when that is what your "leader" looks like.

    Here's what a leader should look like:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n#/media/File:Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n_Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg

    Here’s what a leader should look like:

    Wikipedia is annoying in having web pages that are named like images. You can tell them by the “File:” prefix in the link or by noticing the navigation/sizing controls etc. Just right click and open the image in a new tab. Then make sure that one really is an image before embedding. Here is Viktor Orbán.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  159. @Anon
    OT: Amusing side effect of Covid-19. It's choked the fentanyl and meth drug trade. Apparently, a lot is made in Wuhan and shipped to Mexico, where smugglers moved it into the US.

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-04-24/wuhan-china-coronavirus-fentanyl-global-drug-trade

    "There's no great loss without some small gain."

    Another industry devastated by offshoring production to cheap Asian labor.

  160. I predict Kim Jong Un’s uncle, Kim Pyong-il, will be the next Supreme Leader.

  161. @hhsiii
    She needs some body shampoo. I wouldn't kick her outta bed for eating kimchee. But she probably reeks.

    She beats him by a country kilometer, though.

    You sure about that? I’d sure as hell kick her out for kimchee, I can’t stand that stuff.

  162. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Why is it considered axiomatic that his sister would become the leader should he pass away? They’ve kept it in the family, sure, but both sons after the first Kim Il were groomed and brought up for their eventual role. This might not be the case with her. Do they have a succession plan in place in DPRK? Does anyone know enough that would be in a position to tell us?

  163. @Dave Pinsen
    Filipinas seem more likely to have rounder eyes and curves than Koreans, presumably because of European admixture. But a lot of Koreans get plastic surgery.

    Agreed. I haven’t been to Japan but have been to China, Korea, Thailand, and the Philippines. Everybody has their own opinion, but to me the Koreans have the most hotties, hands down. How much of that is due to the prevalence of plastic surgery, I don’t know. I’d say they’re taller and with a thinner waist than many other asians, which gives them a good head start when it comes to being attractive.

    I went for days in Chengdu without seeing a single lady that would be a 9 or 10.

    Thailand has lots of pretty ladies as well. Philippines has some, but it’s clear to me that’s a result of some mixture of Spanish and/or Chinese or Korean genes mixed in. The true natives are not hot.

    Shit, I’d go as far to say that the high-rent areas in Korea are approaching Ukraine levels of hot ladies, but I’d expect plenty of guys to disagree.

  164. @AnotherDad
    Your nation is in deep trouble when that is what your "leader" looks like.

    Here's what a leader should look like:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n#/media/File:Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n_Tallinn_Digital_Summit.jpg

    He speaks to a population that doesn’t hate their country, their heritage.

  165. @James Speaks
    Kim Jong-Un is Ill. Kim Jong-Il is still dead.

    https://youtu.be/axByUFSa7N8

    I’m gonna steal that,

    • Thanks: James Speaks
  166. What would Un gain by suddenly reappearing after this disappearing act? What would be the purpose of his hiding out for a while?

    • Replies: @Hail

    What would Un gain by suddenly reappearing after this disappearing act?
     
    This happens all the time. There is no evidence there is any "disappearing act." It's not like he walks the streets and jet-sets to Tokyo Disneyland every other weekend in the first place.

    The reason people fell for the latest hoax, or disinfo op., or whatever, this time (as they occasionally also have in the past) is that CoronaParanoia is affecting critical judgment.

  167. @Anonymous (n)
    I've spent time in all the countries you've listed and almost nobody who has any experience in the region would say Southeast Asians like Thais and Pinays can hold a candle to any of the Northeast Asians, Chinese included. Furthermore, while many would agree that Koreans are the cream of the crop, nobody would suggest it's because there is any resemblance to Europeans. If anything, Koreans are the epitome of the wide faced Mongoloid phenotype.

    But this just took me completely aback:

    Regardless, I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me, so I’ve never been interested in Asian women personally.
     

    I can't imagine being this cucked! I don't say that to be offensive, I just can't describe the attitude you've expressed here with any other word. Outsiders have no hesitation taking "your" women, the least you can do is return the favor. Jeezus.

    “I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me….” isn’t a statement of unilateral respect (and therefore for subordination to) the other, but of implicit mutual respect, since respect seems to be an important value in some Asian countries, some of which have a history of valuing their ethnic origins. More that that, it’s a statement of fidelity to my own. Also, the other-people-mate-with-our-women-so-we should-mate-with-theirs philosophy you seem to adhere to seems to be a pretty strong example of “cucked” in popular usage. Maybe you’ve corrupted the word to exclude your own behavior? I mean, by your own admission, you have spent a lot of time in Asia.

    Anyway, “beauty” (even in women) is something that’s aesthetic rather than biologically compelling. A gazelle is beautiful, but I don’t want to have sex with it. As to Mongolian women? They aren’t attractive at all to me, from the pictures I’ve seen. They remind me of American Indian women, who some may find attractive in pure form, but I certainly don’t.

    • Replies: @Anon

    Anyway, “beauty” (even in women) is something that’s aesthetic rather than biologically compelling. A gazelle is beautiful, but I don’t want to have sex with it. As to Mongolian women? They aren’t attractive at all to me, from the pictures I’ve seen. They remind me of American Indian women, who some may find attractive in pure form, but I certainly don’t.
     
    Beauty and human biodiversity tend to go together.

    Mongolians have unusually large brains

    “Arctic and Mongol people, generally have the largest crania of any human group. For example, it has been reported that the Mongols have an average cranial volume of 1573 cc...”

    “According to a study by Richard Lynn, ethnic Mongol children in northern China had 5 points higher visiospatial IQ, but 10 points lower verbal IQ than the Han Chinese children. This makes Mongols possibly the most "visiospatial intelligence" oriented race. East Asians are already known for having the highest visiospatial scores, but Mongols seem to take that further.”

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/mongolians-have-unusually-large-brains-t65821.html
     
    http://www.rabblerousetheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/mongolian-women.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/f5/5a/e5f55a8c193e970ec12dc688fd18f5b2.jpg
    , @Anonymous (n)
    Spreading your seed to the far corners of the world is the literal opposite of "cucked." That's all the time I'll waste on this reply, if you don't understand this concept I advise you to investigate the etymology and scientific usage of the word "cuckoldry" from which cucked is derived. Peace.
  168. If the CIA does not know, their leadership should be executed for incompetence. And if the CIA does know, will they tell Trump?

  169. @Anon
    She has a smug dragon lady look.

    She has a smug dragon lady look.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
  170. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    At long last doth Katharine post some pictures, and they do not rise to the standard quality found in Town & Country! Ballocks and great balderdash! How COULD you do such a thing?

    At least have the decency of posting some nice pictures of Kylie, Kendal, or Kim to wash the taste out from having had to gaze upon this dry sour vinegar! Asian fever, me luv u long time, indeed! If THIS is what passes for hotness from the Hermit Kingdom then pickings are really slim over there indeed.

    What in the world pray tell IS that anyway?

    There was no need for posting such outrageous things on a site such as this.

    Someone doth appear to be a'slippin, Katharine, and afraid in this instance, it is you.

    EWWWWWWW!!!!!!

    My personal preferences are more along the lines of Twin Peaks era Joan Chen….

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Syon, I must say this thread is an unexpected departure: For as long as I can remember, you’ve exclusively extolled the grace and beauty of particular white women… but it now appears your view has become a bit jaundiced.

    While Ms. Chen had some odd charm in her Twin Peaks role, the above pictorial is, well, I’ll let Bunny Swan say it:

    “He look-a like-a man.”

    Classic Swan:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Wv7ffm-0Y
  171. @the one they call Desanex
    North Korea’s dictator Kim Jong-Un = K. J.-Un mort. Corona. Rotting in Hades. ’K?

    That’s one ‘elluvan effort, Desi. Thanks.

  172. @Stump
    What would Un gain by suddenly reappearing after this disappearing act? What would be the purpose of his hiding out for a while?

    What would Un gain by suddenly reappearing after this disappearing act?

    This happens all the time. There is no evidence there is any “disappearing act.” It’s not like he walks the streets and jet-sets to Tokyo Disneyland every other weekend in the first place.

    The reason people fell for the latest hoax, or disinfo op., or whatever, this time (as they occasionally also have in the past) is that CoronaParanoia is affecting critical judgment.

  173. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Hold on. Mao lived to the ripe age of 82, and Chiang made it to the age of 87. Perhaps one should look with some amount of skepticism at studies that make the claims that acquiring most STDs that are non-HIV do in fact directly impact one's personal health by reducing one's life. Observing from the examples of both Mao and Chiang, apparently not sufficiently enough to shorten one's lifespan.

    According to this book Chiang Was effectively sterile in the 1930s. (Due to continuous STD exposer.)

    If I recall correctly, his only son was a de facto hostage in Soviet Russia at Moscow State University. Apparently, he didn’t immediately destroy the communists in the 1920s-1930s during the “Long March” due to fear of retaliation to the son.

    One of the worst curses to use in China is to say “may your family line die now sterile and barren.”

    Sure, both Chiang and Mao lived to an respectable old age but they suffered from various maladies. They lived long enough to see the magic of penicillin but they incurred std damage during their fun years. Mao’s corpse likely looks better now than in the last 15 years of his life.

  174. @Inverness
    Do we still have U2s? That was well over a half century ago.

    U2 aka “Dragon Lady” is STILL operational.

  175. Dead or alive, the latest Kim (or his sister) will never be able to pull off a classic number like “I’m So Ronery”, or a catch phrase like,

    “Now take your weapons of mass destwuction, and GET THE F!CK OUT OF HERE!!”

    Why is evwybody so f!cking stupid?

  176. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @J1234
    "I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me...." isn't a statement of unilateral respect (and therefore for subordination to) the other, but of implicit mutual respect, since respect seems to be an important value in some Asian countries, some of which have a history of valuing their ethnic origins. More that that, it's a statement of fidelity to my own. Also, the other-people-mate-with-our-women-so-we should-mate-with-theirs philosophy you seem to adhere to seems to be a pretty strong example of "cucked" in popular usage. Maybe you've corrupted the word to exclude your own behavior? I mean, by your own admission, you have spent a lot of time in Asia.

    Anyway, "beauty" (even in women) is something that's aesthetic rather than biologically compelling. A gazelle is beautiful, but I don't want to have sex with it. As to Mongolian women? They aren't attractive at all to me, from the pictures I've seen. They remind me of American Indian women, who some may find attractive in pure form, but I certainly don't.

    Anyway, “beauty” (even in women) is something that’s aesthetic rather than biologically compelling. A gazelle is beautiful, but I don’t want to have sex with it. As to Mongolian women? They aren’t attractive at all to me, from the pictures I’ve seen. They remind me of American Indian women, who some may find attractive in pure form, but I certainly don’t.

    Beauty and human biodiversity tend to go together.

    Mongolians have unusually large brains

    “Arctic and Mongol people, generally have the largest crania of any human group. For example, it has been reported that the Mongols have an average cranial volume of 1573 cc…”

    “According to a study by Richard Lynn, ethnic Mongol children in northern China had 5 points higher visiospatial IQ, but 10 points lower verbal IQ than the Han Chinese children. This makes Mongols possibly the most “visiospatial intelligence” oriented race. East Asians are already known for having the highest visiospatial scores, but Mongols seem to take that further.”

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/mongolians-have-unusually-large-brains-t65821.html

    • Replies: @J1234

    Beauty and human biodiversity tend to go together.
     
    Okay...that's a nice thought. It's hard to figure out whether or not it's intended as a rebuttal to something I said, though.

    BTW, when I mentioned I didn't find Mongolian women attractive, it doesn't mean, "they aren't attractive." It means I don't find them attractive.

    The same principle applies to other physical attributes. Something similar for me (though to a lesser degree) would be red hair and freckles. I understand that other men find those things very attractive and I'm not trying to diminish or critique their attraction to those traits.

  177. @utu
    "Otto Warmbier ...His parents..." - Refused to have autopsy done and had his body cremated. Only later they began to make various claims.

    [Otto Warmbier’s parents] refused to have autopsy done and had his body cremated. Only later they began to make various claims.

    My niece Jennifer was murdered by her husband Beau, last November. It was a horrible time for all of us. Her parents didn’t want an autopsy and had her body cremated.

    I guess you would have found that suspicious.

    I mean, WTF, dude? Are you claiming that the RNK did no wrong, here? That Otto Warmbier’s parents are part of some sinister conspiracy to blacken the name of the RNK?

    • Replies: @utu
    Are you claiming that the RNK did no wrong, here? - Not agreeing to autopsy was a mistake. Possibly they got a bad advice.
  178. @syonredux
    My personal preferences are more along the lines of Twin Peaks era Joan Chen....


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/be/04/b3be04798175659a04a7bde8b6b23054.jpg



    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/70/b5/46/70b5467666a2d0e47b6dc333503ef776.jpg


    http://highlighthollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/twinpeaks-josie.png

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bf/92/b5/bf92b568db5f7862b22d12cf248fe25b--chen-red-carpet.jpg

    Syon, I must say this thread is an unexpected departure: For as long as I can remember, you’ve exclusively extolled the grace and beauty of particular white women… but it now appears your view has become a bit jaundiced.

    While Ms. Chen had some odd charm in her Twin Peaks role, the above pictorial is, well, I’ll let Bunny Swan say it:

    “He look-a like-a man.”

    Classic Swan:

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Syon, I must say this thread is an unexpected departure: For as long as I can remember, you’ve exclusively extolled the grace and beauty of particular white women… but it now appears your view has become a bit jaundiced.
     
    I've dipped the occasional toe (so to speak) in asiatic seas....but my favorite bodies of water are decidedly occidental....




    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HbrFFqZI-KA/Tn2r85TaAtI/AAAAAAAADpI/qZooHXhlUHc/s1600/ava+gardner.+069.jpg


    https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/02_loren9.jpg


    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/400301380843-0-1/s-l1000.jpg


    http://anotherimg.dazedgroup.netdna-cdn.com/900/azure/another-prod/370/2/372459.jpg


    https://www.theplace2.ru/cache/archive/senta_berger/img/019-2-gthumb-gwdata1200-ghdata1200-gfitdatamax.jpg
  179. anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:

    Two words: eye shadow. Then she comes something unseen before: a tres hot dictatorix.

  180. @jim jones
    Will China invade when Fatboy dies?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp2wh5bmxPk

    Korea has a history of wily diplomacy that in the period when China was weak resulted in the other major regional powers unsuccessfully contending over it. World War One had something to do with Korea finally being snatched from the overlordship of China.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/how-is-north-korean-dictator-kim-jong-un-doing/#comment-3860593

    China has sent a team to North Korea including medical experts to check on Kim Jong-un, according to three people familiar with the situation.

    The trip by the Chinese doctors and officials comes amid conflicting reports about the health of the North Korean ruler. It was not immediately clear what the trip by the Chinese team signalled in terms of Kim’s health.

    A delegation led by a senior member of the Chinese Communist party’s international liaison department left Beijing for North Korea on Thursday, two of the people told Reuters.

    He trusts Chinese doctors to be around him, which proves that China stands behind everything Kim does because he knows not to overstep the mark, Historically, Korea has not been a country free to conclude alliances China did not approve of. To Xi, the Kim dynasty is the CCP’s boy (or girl), and a cat’s paw to be used as a wedge against Trump. North Korea is a vassal state of China that survives as semi independent because that suits China. People who forget that ancient reality suffer the fate of MacArthur.

  181. @J1234
    "I consider the undeniable beauty of some Asian women as something that doesn’t belong to me...." isn't a statement of unilateral respect (and therefore for subordination to) the other, but of implicit mutual respect, since respect seems to be an important value in some Asian countries, some of which have a history of valuing their ethnic origins. More that that, it's a statement of fidelity to my own. Also, the other-people-mate-with-our-women-so-we should-mate-with-theirs philosophy you seem to adhere to seems to be a pretty strong example of "cucked" in popular usage. Maybe you've corrupted the word to exclude your own behavior? I mean, by your own admission, you have spent a lot of time in Asia.

    Anyway, "beauty" (even in women) is something that's aesthetic rather than biologically compelling. A gazelle is beautiful, but I don't want to have sex with it. As to Mongolian women? They aren't attractive at all to me, from the pictures I've seen. They remind me of American Indian women, who some may find attractive in pure form, but I certainly don't.

    Spreading your seed to the far corners of the world is the literal opposite of “cucked.” That’s all the time I’ll waste on this reply, if you don’t understand this concept I advise you to investigate the etymology and scientific usage of the word “cuckoldry” from which cucked is derived. Peace.

    • Replies: @J1234

    I advise you to investigate the etymology and scientific usage of the word “cuckoldry” from which cucked is derived
     
    It's the political - not scientific - usage of the word that matters because that's why people commonly use it on essentially political forums like this one. In that context, "cucked" refers to a condition where conservatives (cuckservatives) acquiesce to progressive values. (For many, that would include interracial sex.) If you like screwing Asian chicks, go ahead, but don't try to sell it as some bizarre form of courage (or the disinclination to do so as a moral failing.)
  182. @Sean
    He is getting some horizontal jogging in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/back-from-the-dead-kim-jong-uns-pop-star-ex-girlfriend-is-seen-alongside-north-korean-dictator-in-public-after-reports-she-was-executed-by-firing-squad-for-making-a-sex-tape/ar-AACD9uk
    Hyon Song-wol, who is known for propaganda hits like ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’ was seen this week touring factories with Chairman Kim, the Sunday Times of London reported.

    Hyon is the 42-year-old lead singer of Moranbong Band, an all-women group.

    She is also a member of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea, which of course is chaired by Kim
    Hyon was photographed next to Kim as they visited factories. They were also side-by-side while watching the Mass Games gymnastics performance.

    There were reports that in 2013 Kim ordered Hyon’s execution after she allegedly made a sex tape.


     

    Nassim Taleb said in one of his books that a personal doctor can be dangerous. Kim must have several and they all would be likely to err on the side of caution in ordering tests and procedures. making a probability of overtreatment. Also, if he wanted a (possibly cosmetic or fat reduction) procedure done the doctors would not be able to overrule him, and he may have demanded a general anesthetic, which is not something to get without very good reason because some people do not wake up.

    North Korea is a crypto-vassal of China that the US would not dare take military action against, and everyone in the power structure owes personal fealty to Yo-jongs family. I doubt there would be much of a change in policy. She certainly is not the type to take initiatives on her own account.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100951532558798848~/news/world-asia-47397700

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later--days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later–days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.

    My guess was that a despondent Warmbier tried to hang himself. The Nork doctors who intubated him to restore airflow to the lungs probably knocked around a few teeth; tooth damage during intubation is not uncommon even in “modern” “first world” hospitals in the USA.

    • Thanks: Sean
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    His doctors found no evidence of traumatic injury and no evidence of botulism ingestion, just a great deal of brain damage.
  183. @epebble
    Could it be Covid? I am surprised no Head of State has died from it (yet), though most of them are old, routinely shake hands etc., talk a lot and listen to a lot of talking, do a lot of travelling, meeting people.

    I’m surprised we aren’t seeing this more discussed

  184. @vinteuil

    [Otto Warmbier's parents] refused to have autopsy done and had his body cremated. Only later they began to make various claims.
     
    My niece Jennifer was murdered by her husband Beau, last November. It was a horrible time for all of us. Her parents didn't want an autopsy and had her body cremated.

    I guess you would have found that suspicious.

    I mean, WTF, dude? Are you claiming that the RNK did no wrong, here? That Otto Warmbier's parents are part of some sinister conspiracy to blacken the name of the RNK?

    Are you claiming that the RNK did no wrong, here? – Not agreeing to autopsy was a mistake. Possibly they got a bad advice.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    Look at yourself, my friend. Look at who you're siding with, in a case you know nothing about.

    BTW - what's your native language? Not English, obviously. "Possibly they got a bad advice." You're pretty fluent, but you're always slipping up on basic stuff like when you should use the indefinite article and when you shouldn't.
  185. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Syon, I must say this thread is an unexpected departure: For as long as I can remember, you’ve exclusively extolled the grace and beauty of particular white women… but it now appears your view has become a bit jaundiced.

    While Ms. Chen had some odd charm in her Twin Peaks role, the above pictorial is, well, I’ll let Bunny Swan say it:

    “He look-a like-a man.”

    Classic Swan:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Wv7ffm-0Y

    Syon, I must say this thread is an unexpected departure: For as long as I can remember, you’ve exclusively extolled the grace and beauty of particular white women… but it now appears your view has become a bit jaundiced.

    I’ve dipped the occasional toe (so to speak) in asiatic seas….but my favorite bodies of water are decidedly occidental….

  186. @utu
    Are you claiming that the RNK did no wrong, here? - Not agreeing to autopsy was a mistake. Possibly they got a bad advice.

    Look at yourself, my friend. Look at who you’re siding with, in a case you know nothing about.

    BTW – what’s your native language? Not English, obviously. “Possibly they got a bad advice.” You’re pretty fluent, but you’re always slipping up on basic stuff like when you should use the indefinite article and when you shouldn’t.

    • Replies: @utu
    It did not occur to you that Mr. Otto Warmbier's family was a subject of operational game on the part of the faction within the USG which was in the middle of developing and formulating its policy towards NK. It did not occur to you that in the current post 2016 election political climate for every action there is a counteraction which only is amplified by Trump's unsteadiness and inconsistencies. It did not occur to you that at the time of Mr. Otto Warmbier death it was not in the interest of the faction that wanted to pursue the dialog with NK to amplify what happened to Mr. Otto Warmbier, so it is possible that his parents were gently advised to drop the issue and no autopsy was done followed by cremation that made it irreversible It did not occur to you that several months later a different set of friendly advisers got to his family and gently pressured them to get to go to court and get media attention.

    The repertoire of your eristic devises is not very impressive: (1) "my friend" - patronization, (2) "who you’re siding with" - insinuation, (3) "you’re always slipping up on basic stuff " - patronization+ad hominem.
  187. @Anonymous (n)
    Spreading your seed to the far corners of the world is the literal opposite of "cucked." That's all the time I'll waste on this reply, if you don't understand this concept I advise you to investigate the etymology and scientific usage of the word "cuckoldry" from which cucked is derived. Peace.

    I advise you to investigate the etymology and scientific usage of the word “cuckoldry” from which cucked is derived

    It’s the political – not scientific – usage of the word that matters because that’s why people commonly use it on essentially political forums like this one. In that context, “cucked” refers to a condition where conservatives (cuckservatives) acquiesce to progressive values. (For many, that would include interracial sex.) If you like screwing Asian chicks, go ahead, but don’t try to sell it as some bizarre form of courage (or the disinclination to do so as a moral failing.)

  188. @Anon

    Anyway, “beauty” (even in women) is something that’s aesthetic rather than biologically compelling. A gazelle is beautiful, but I don’t want to have sex with it. As to Mongolian women? They aren’t attractive at all to me, from the pictures I’ve seen. They remind me of American Indian women, who some may find attractive in pure form, but I certainly don’t.
     
    Beauty and human biodiversity tend to go together.

    Mongolians have unusually large brains

    “Arctic and Mongol people, generally have the largest crania of any human group. For example, it has been reported that the Mongols have an average cranial volume of 1573 cc...”

    “According to a study by Richard Lynn, ethnic Mongol children in northern China had 5 points higher visiospatial IQ, but 10 points lower verbal IQ than the Han Chinese children. This makes Mongols possibly the most "visiospatial intelligence" oriented race. East Asians are already known for having the highest visiospatial scores, but Mongols seem to take that further.”

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/mongolians-have-unusually-large-brains-t65821.html
     
    http://www.rabblerousetheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/mongolian-women.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/f5/5a/e5f55a8c193e970ec12dc688fd18f5b2.jpg

    Beauty and human biodiversity tend to go together.

    Okay…that’s a nice thought. It’s hard to figure out whether or not it’s intended as a rebuttal to something I said, though.

    BTW, when I mentioned I didn’t find Mongolian women attractive, it doesn’t mean, “they aren’t attractive.” It means I don’t find them attractive.

    The same principle applies to other physical attributes. Something similar for me (though to a lesser degree) would be red hair and freckles. I understand that other men find those things very attractive and I’m not trying to diminish or critique their attraction to those traits.

  189. @vinteuil
    Look at yourself, my friend. Look at who you're siding with, in a case you know nothing about.

    BTW - what's your native language? Not English, obviously. "Possibly they got a bad advice." You're pretty fluent, but you're always slipping up on basic stuff like when you should use the indefinite article and when you shouldn't.

    It did not occur to you that Mr. Otto Warmbier’s family was a subject of operational game on the part of the faction within the USG which was in the middle of developing and formulating its policy towards NK. It did not occur to you that in the current post 2016 election political climate for every action there is a counteraction which only is amplified by Trump’s unsteadiness and inconsistencies. It did not occur to you that at the time of Mr. Otto Warmbier death it was not in the interest of the faction that wanted to pursue the dialog with NK to amplify what happened to Mr. Otto Warmbier, so it is possible that his parents were gently advised to drop the issue and no autopsy was done followed by cremation that made it irreversible It did not occur to you that several months later a different set of friendly advisers got to his family and gently pressured them to get to go to court and get media attention.

    The repertoire of your eristic devises is not very impressive: (1) “my friend” – patronization, (2) “who you’re siding with” – insinuation, (3) “you’re always slipping up on basic stuff ” – patronization+ad hominem.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    It did not occur to you that Mr. Otto Warmbier’s family was a subject of operational game on the part of the faction within the USG

    Of course it didn't occur to him. He isn't a witless fantasist.
    , @vinteuil

    The repertoire of your eristic devises is not very impressive: (1) “my friend” – patronization, (2) “who you’re siding with” – insinuation, (3) “you’re always slipping up on basic stuff ” – patronization+ad hominem.
     
    Well, whatever. Still wondering what's your native language?
  190. @The Alarmist

    Otto Warmbier 15 years hard labour for an ill and was almost immediately in a vegetative state and died a year later–days after being repatriated. His parents said his front teeth looked like they had been rearranged with pliers. North Korean orthodontics.
     
    My guess was that a despondent Warmbier tried to hang himself. The Nork doctors who intubated him to restore airflow to the lungs probably knocked around a few teeth; tooth damage during intubation is not uncommon even in "modern" "first world" hospitals in the USA.

    His doctors found no evidence of traumatic injury and no evidence of botulism ingestion, just a great deal of brain damage.

    • Replies: @Sean
    I remember reading when after Watergate post resignation Nixon was invited back to China that it was speculated that the Chinese the misunderstood his position because in Chinese culture a leader can be disgraced then be rehabilitated and come back to influence. Yo-jong had been in the doghouse (maybe for telling he sibling to stop eating himself into a laughing stock) and came back.

    He was a young man so fracture of that little bone in the neck (Hyiod) that Jeffrey Epstein had would not be expected. Bedsheets are used and they can kill by pressure on the side of the neck while not cutting in like a belt or shoelaces so marks still being visible a year later or hard tissue injuries would not be expected. There is also a technique for committing suicide by deliberately swallowing your tongue that he might have been aware of because nork infiltrators are notorious for using it if captured.

    I expect the nork doc was extremely rough as it was an emergency. A North Korean doctor probably does not get experience at intubating a large white man.Damage to teeth is something I asked the junior about in the pro op and was told 'well, it does happen...'; this is routine operations she was referencing. Nork ninjas from a sub kidnapped a number of Japanese students to use in training spies in language and culture and one died on the trip home others were killed for disobedience. The kid maybe thought he was going to be kept for that kind of thing.

    Suicide is only a possibility though. They may have been immobilising him as a punishment (being forced to remain silent and still in uncomfortable positions for long periods is the East Asian third degree (typical punishment for unruly inmates in Jap prisons). Assuning he got angry and with him so much bigger that the average north Korean they piled on top of him and and the sheer weight prevented his rib cage expanding, which will stop you breathing just as surely as a rope round the neck. Over the years I have read of the odd shoplifter who died that way under a bunch of people holding them down.

    Nork docs probably have little experience with treating the morbidly obese, and the doc can hardly throw his notepad at Kim for ignoring advice. Overeating and massive overtreatment with him having the last word on it is surely a death sentence. The funny thing is there's more fat on a seagull's lip than on sis Yo-jong

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/NINTCHDBPICT0004126000752.jpg?w=620
  191. @utu
    It did not occur to you that Mr. Otto Warmbier's family was a subject of operational game on the part of the faction within the USG which was in the middle of developing and formulating its policy towards NK. It did not occur to you that in the current post 2016 election political climate for every action there is a counteraction which only is amplified by Trump's unsteadiness and inconsistencies. It did not occur to you that at the time of Mr. Otto Warmbier death it was not in the interest of the faction that wanted to pursue the dialog with NK to amplify what happened to Mr. Otto Warmbier, so it is possible that his parents were gently advised to drop the issue and no autopsy was done followed by cremation that made it irreversible It did not occur to you that several months later a different set of friendly advisers got to his family and gently pressured them to get to go to court and get media attention.

    The repertoire of your eristic devises is not very impressive: (1) "my friend" - patronization, (2) "who you’re siding with" - insinuation, (3) "you’re always slipping up on basic stuff " - patronization+ad hominem.

    It did not occur to you that Mr. Otto Warmbier’s family was a subject of operational game on the part of the faction within the USG

    Of course it didn’t occur to him. He isn’t a witless fantasist.

    • Replies: @utu
    witless fantasist? No operational game?

    U.S. signed North Korea document to pay for Otto Warmbier's care but didn't fork over $2 million: top official
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/04/29/asia-pacific/u-s-envoy-signed-north-korea-document-pay-otto-warmbiers-care-didnt-fork-2-million-john-bolton/#.XqZQbC2ZOu4

    Trump says U.S. paid no money to North Korea in Otto Warmbier release
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/04/27/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/trump-says-u-s-paid-no-money-north-korea-otto-warmbier-release/#.XqZQSC2ZOu4

    Mike Pompeo refused to say whether or not Kim Jong Un knew about Otto Warmbier's mistreatment — which happened while he was boss of the CIA
    https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pompeo-kim-jong-un-otto-warmbier-mistreatment-north-korea-2019-3

    As far as Warmbier's parents perhaps they knew what they were doing. Apparently you do no need an autopsy to be awarded $500 million court judgment for wrongful death when the cause of death was not determined. NK was not going to challenge the court case anyway.
  192. @Art Deco
    It did not occur to you that Mr. Otto Warmbier’s family was a subject of operational game on the part of the faction within the USG

    Of course it didn't occur to him. He isn't a witless fantasist.

    witless fantasist? No operational game?

    U.S. signed North Korea document to pay for Otto Warmbier’s care but didn’t fork over $2 million: top official
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/04/29/asia-pacific/u-s-envoy-signed-north-korea-document-pay-otto-warmbiers-care-didnt-fork-2-million-john-bolton/#.XqZQbC2ZOu4

    Trump says U.S. paid no money to North Korea in Otto Warmbier release
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/04/27/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/trump-says-u-s-paid-no-money-north-korea-otto-warmbier-release/#.XqZQSC2ZOu4

    Mike Pompeo refused to say whether or not Kim Jong Un knew about Otto Warmbier’s mistreatment — which happened while he was boss of the CIA
    https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pompeo-kim-jong-un-otto-warmbier-mistreatment-north-korea-2019-3

    As far as Warmbier’s parents perhaps they knew what they were doing. Apparently you do no need an autopsy to be awarded $500 million court judgment for wrongful death when the cause of death was not determined. NK was not going to challenge the court case anyway.

    • Replies: @Inverness
    Your English becoming much worse very quickly.
  193. @Art Deco
    His doctors found no evidence of traumatic injury and no evidence of botulism ingestion, just a great deal of brain damage.

    I remember reading when after Watergate post resignation Nixon was invited back to China that it was speculated that the Chinese the misunderstood his position because in Chinese culture a leader can be disgraced then be rehabilitated and come back to influence. Yo-jong had been in the doghouse (maybe for telling he sibling to stop eating himself into a laughing stock) and came back.

    He was a young man so fracture of that little bone in the neck (Hyiod) that Jeffrey Epstein had would not be expected. Bedsheets are used and they can kill by pressure on the side of the neck while not cutting in like a belt or shoelaces so marks still being visible a year later or hard tissue injuries would not be expected. There is also a technique for committing suicide by deliberately swallowing your tongue that he might have been aware of because nork infiltrators are notorious for using it if captured.

    I expect the nork doc was extremely rough as it was an emergency. A North Korean doctor probably does not get experience at intubating a large white man.Damage to teeth is something I asked the junior about in the pro op and was told ‘well, it does happen…’; this is routine operations she was referencing. Nork ninjas from a sub kidnapped a number of Japanese students to use in training spies in language and culture and one died on the trip home others were killed for disobedience. The kid maybe thought he was going to be kept for that kind of thing.

    Suicide is only a possibility though. They may have been immobilising him as a punishment (being forced to remain silent and still in uncomfortable positions for long periods is the East Asian third degree (typical punishment for unruly inmates in Jap prisons). Assuning he got angry and with him so much bigger that the average north Korean they piled on top of him and and the sheer weight prevented his rib cage expanding, which will stop you breathing just as surely as a rope round the neck. Over the years I have read of the odd shoplifter who died that way under a bunch of people holding them down.

    Nork docs probably have little experience with treating the morbidly obese, and the doc can hardly throw his notepad at Kim for ignoring advice. Overeating and massive overtreatment with him having the last word on it is surely a death sentence. The funny thing is there’s more fat on a seagull’s lip than on sis Yo-jong

  194. @utu
    witless fantasist? No operational game?

    U.S. signed North Korea document to pay for Otto Warmbier's care but didn't fork over $2 million: top official
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/04/29/asia-pacific/u-s-envoy-signed-north-korea-document-pay-otto-warmbiers-care-didnt-fork-2-million-john-bolton/#.XqZQbC2ZOu4

    Trump says U.S. paid no money to North Korea in Otto Warmbier release
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/04/27/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/trump-says-u-s-paid-no-money-north-korea-otto-warmbier-release/#.XqZQSC2ZOu4

    Mike Pompeo refused to say whether or not Kim Jong Un knew about Otto Warmbier's mistreatment — which happened while he was boss of the CIA
    https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pompeo-kim-jong-un-otto-warmbier-mistreatment-north-korea-2019-3

    As far as Warmbier's parents perhaps they knew what they were doing. Apparently you do no need an autopsy to be awarded $500 million court judgment for wrongful death when the cause of death was not determined. NK was not going to challenge the court case anyway.

    Your English becoming much worse very quickly.

  195. @utu
    It did not occur to you that Mr. Otto Warmbier's family was a subject of operational game on the part of the faction within the USG which was in the middle of developing and formulating its policy towards NK. It did not occur to you that in the current post 2016 election political climate for every action there is a counteraction which only is amplified by Trump's unsteadiness and inconsistencies. It did not occur to you that at the time of Mr. Otto Warmbier death it was not in the interest of the faction that wanted to pursue the dialog with NK to amplify what happened to Mr. Otto Warmbier, so it is possible that his parents were gently advised to drop the issue and no autopsy was done followed by cremation that made it irreversible It did not occur to you that several months later a different set of friendly advisers got to his family and gently pressured them to get to go to court and get media attention.

    The repertoire of your eristic devises is not very impressive: (1) "my friend" - patronization, (2) "who you’re siding with" - insinuation, (3) "you’re always slipping up on basic stuff " - patronization+ad hominem.

    The repertoire of your eristic devises is not very impressive: (1) “my friend” – patronization, (2) “who you’re siding with” – insinuation, (3) “you’re always slipping up on basic stuff ” – patronization+ad hominem.

    Well, whatever. Still wondering what’s your native language?

  196. @Sean
    https://www.verywellhealth.com/thmb/eS6fcGInj6rphWzj9tp6Joe5j4g=/700x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/intubation-021-5a299722e258f8003693b043.png

    They give you the injection and tell you to count backwards from ten. Two seconds later the clock is ticking and if the anesthesiologist (who you do not normally see) is too slow intubating you (cannot find the place to get the tube in) you will die. I read about this happening to someone who had had a general anesthetic before and insisted on having it for a routine orthopedic operation. He had a young paki female anesthesiologist; and she didn't get the tube in and he died.

    Two days after reading this in the paper it almost happened to me. The anesthesiologist was an older white consultant and came and saw me later to give me a letter for warning I was very difficult to intubate, and maybe curious to see the fellow who almost gave gave him a heart attack. He was a calm silver haired doctor, but looked a little bit shell shocked. If he had been off working on his handicap and someone less experienced was there in his stead, who knows?

    So it was something of a surprise to learn, in early February, that Peterson had spent eight days in a medically induced coma at an unnamed clinic in Russia…

    https://newrepublic.com/article/156829/happened-jordan-peterson

    This was a rather amazing report that there are Russian doctors supposedly using coma to treat drug addiction. And when I say amazing what I mean is the facts must be a lot different than what they are reporting.


  197. [MORE]

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1256696015702425601
  198. @syonredux
    His sister's looking pretty good...

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/kim-jong-un-sister-winter-olympics-2018-who-is-kim-yo-jong-917086.jpg

    https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_06/2322486/180209-kim-yo-jong-rd-215a_7b449cbd41371e5a88f0d7e3fb713de0.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

    Hey, odd looking that she is, the lady’s got nothing on Lori Lightfoot?

  199. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/martyn_williams/status/1256363500793987079

    https://twitter.com/martyn_williams/status/1256365210169991168
    https://twitter.com/martyn_williams/status/1256370209230860295

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