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From The Week:

The appeal of Trump: Why immigration may be the defining issue of the 21st century

Michael Brendan Dougherty
August 31, 2015

There was once a fanciful idea that the internet and all its attendant technologies of cheap communication would reverse the pattern of urbanization in developed countries. Some people still believe this: People could telecommute to work while enjoying the comforts of the small towns and country roads of their childhood. A few people, in fact, do this. But the for the most part the opposite phenomenon is playing out. The information age is the age of moving people. And if that’s true, Donald Trump is just the first manifestation of a new era in global politics.

The information age makes it very easy for a small town kid to find an apartment, a job, and a social network in the big cities and growth areas. It also allows him to stay connected with friends at home. In other words, it lowers the price of moving and the cost of leaving. It reduces the feeling of disorientation in new places, while allowing people to still belong, in some sense, to where they came from. New York, Los Angeles, D.C., Silicon Valley, Portland, and Austin have all benefited from these trends.

And the truth is that this is a global phenomenon. It’s easier than ever to establish social, commercial, and employment relationships in places thousands of miles away from you. So why not go there? …

Social media, which largely consists of bragging about how awesome your life is, encourages mass migration. Some guy in Ghana is barraged by his cousins in Europe posting cellphone photos of their amazing lives, so he spends $5k to sneak into Europe. There he finds that maybe his life isn’t quite as wonderful as he’d expected, but he can still brag to the naive folks back home. Which is nice.

It’s not a coincidence that Trump is surging ahead because of his anti-immigration views in America, while Europe is roiled by debates over how to handle migrants crossing the Mediterranean.

This, incidentally, is why I am convinced that there was no way that the GOP could have precluded the Donald Trump moment in American politics by passing comprehensive immigration reform two years ago. The movement of people from country to the city, from poor nations to richer nations, from the Global South to the Global North, may be the great political problem of the next age in global development. ….

Trump says that Mexico is exporting its problems to the U.S. But the truth is that, along with some problems, the Global South (particularly Africa) is sending its prodigies abroad, many of them never to return.

But, keep in mind, below the Academy Award-winning film director/cinematographer level, Mexico sends very few prodigies to the U.S. Mexico is a huge country and the vast majority of Mexico’s most talented make a nice living in Mexico, and that has become nicer over time. Thirty years ago, the future of Mexico City, for example, looked Blade Runner horrific (see NYT Mexico correspondent Alan Riding’s bestseller Distant Neighbors) as its population was expected to grow from 18 million to 30 million.

But that didn’t happen because surplus peasants from the countryside moved to the United States instead of Mexico City, relieving pressure on Mexico City elites and their lifestyles.

 
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  1. As I read the first two paragraphs, I remembered what Sam Francis wrote in Chronicles in April 1992. More than 23 years ago.

    There is a good deal of talk about how post-industrial technologies will lead to a radical decentralization of organizations. Don’t bet on it. The technology works both ways. It can be used to promote decentralization, but it also lends itself to tighter control from the center. Human nature seems to prefer more power and less responsibility, and my own bet is that post-industrial technologies will accommodate that preference.

  2. Mexico City is nice if you can afford it. And it isn’t expensive, with decent wages for skilled workers and professionals. But not for unskilled ex-peasant labor. Like Southern California, its former large industrial base is being pushed out by rising costs and environmental regulations in favor of government, non-profit and the service economy.

    A fair amount of the central areas look like Europe and distant suburbs look American.

    Not Paris:

    Not Plano:

    The subway system is better than any in the United States:

    I posted a comment a few weeks ago showing Mexico as a whole is richer than much of Eastern Europe, and if you just include the Mexico City and Monterrey areas it is richer than nearly all of eastern europe and comparable to poorer parts of the American South.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @Lot

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Mexico_City_Metro_System_Diagram_%282013-03-01%29.png

    That map of the Mexico City subway system has some interesting station names.
    At the intersection of the yellow line and the dull-green line is a station called La Raza. Which race is that? That raaaaycist! And at the intersection of the yellow line and the gray line is Oceania. We have always been at war with Oceania.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

    , @Anon 2
    @Lot

    Mexico has about the same GDP per capita (PPP)
    as Bulgaria, the poorest country in the EU:

    Mexico $18,370
    Bulgaria $17,869

    but is much poorer than an Eastern European country like Russia (about $23,000)
    except for the poorest white country in the world - Ukraine ($7,400).

    On the other hand, Central European countries like the Czech Republic and Poland
    are much richer:

    Czech R. $30,895
    Poland $26,210

    Replies: @Lot, @PistolPete

    , @(((Owen)))
    @Lot

    @Lot That's a beautiful shot of Orizaba at Álvaro Obregón. I used to live there. The next three million people south of there live in similar European-style neighborhoods and none of those are even the rich parts of Mexico City.

    You suggest that Mexico City (and Regiolandia) are richer than Eastern Europe and the American South. Cost of living adjustments understate how well off Mexico is so it's more even than that. And Mexico City and Monterrey aren't as rich as El Bajío with millions more rich Mexicans.

    It's especially acute for college grads. The average Mexican college graduate already earns more than the average US college grad the same age, taking cost of living into account.

    Now being working class in Mexico is hard and being one of fifteen million underclass indians is harder. But Mexico's education system is growing and there are more college spots open every year. The competition isn't getting harder anymore because the birthrate fell to replacement fifteen years ago.

    Mexico continues to send a lot of underclass peasants to the USA relieving the pressure from less educable people in a modern economy. A lot come back, though, so net migration is near zero. Well educated people don't come north much; why move to a poorer country for college grads?

    America really kicks young people in the teeth with housing policy, transportation policy, and employment policy. A college educated twenty-seven year old Mexican can be married with two kids and a starter home in a big cosmopolitan city while and in America, he would still be struggling with college loans and rent.

    Of course that doesn't help Americans decide what to do with the mass illegal immigration problem from Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Indochina. Mexico -- fighting our drug war -- isn't inclined to help and just waves them through. Any who try to stop off in Mexico will see harsh treatment and penalties unknown in America. After all, Mexico already has too few jobs for working class people -- best to save them for Mexicans. Pass 'em off to America where nobody cares about its working people.

    , @Jefferson
    @Lot

    "I posted a comment a few weeks ago showing Mexico as a whole is richer than much of Eastern Europe,"

    WRONG. Mexico has a lower human development index than the vast majority of Eastern European countries.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#Very_high_human_development

    Heck even many Latin American countries have a higher human development index than Mexico. These Latin countries are Uruguay, Chile, Argentina, Cuba, Venezuela, Costa Rica, and Panama.

    So don't even dare try to paint Mexico as a first world country. It's human development index is closer to that of Sri Lanka than it is to The United States.

    , @Thea
    @Lot

    But there is virtually no civil society in Mexico. you could raise your kids behind high proprietary walls with security detail. As will happen here soon.

  3. All those prodigies… Yes. There are a few at Real Madrid, Juventus, Chelsea, etc.

    But let’s all pretend a guy who runs a dodgy Abyssinian Restaurant is an ‘entrepreneur’; someone who slides through Humanities at a toney university is a ‘leading intellectual’; a STEM graduate (or a medico) is a ‘gifted humanitarian’; and a City youth in pin-stripes is a ‘financial genius’.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @G Pinfold

    Kweku Adoboli was a prodigy of sorts.

    Replies: @Alfa158

  4. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Rather insidiously, prog media figures have recently begun dropping all customary prefixes when discussing “migration”. Apparently, there is no longer such a thing as an emigrant who leaves his own country, nor an immigrant who settles in a new land. This new convention implies that said “migrants” are merely relocating within a single political jurisdiction. At least linguistically, the chattering classes are now treating the abolition of borders as a fait accompli. As an aside, death to the ahistorical deviationist cretins of the Zanu-PFJ.

  5. Another reason Mexican elites and upper middle classes don’t leave is the weather is so nice. Americans often think of Mexico as tropical, but its capital and largest city has cooler summers than nearly all well-populated parts of the United States. The average high and low in Mexico City is 75/55 in August and 71/45 in January. The all-time record high is 93. Those numbers for Monterrey, Mexico’s second city, are 83/72 in August and 69/47 in January.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Lot

    Lot, you are way, way wrong on Monterrey. It has average highs over 90F for the entire summer and regularly is over 100F:

    http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/l/MXNL0068:1:MX

    Replies: @Lot

    , @jjbees
    @Lot

    What if we let the mexicans and h1bs have America, and we simply all move to mexico city?

  6. “…But the truth is that, along with some problems, the Global South (particularly Africa) is sending its prodigies abroad, many of them never to return. …”

    Sub-Saharan Africa’s “prodigies” include anyone with an IQ north of 90 or so and/or the rudiments of an elementary school education. These “prodigies are often burdened with gothic levels of superstition and prejudice and just as often lack the self-control to restrain the behaviors these cultural traits encourage. It’s no bargain for either the country of origin or the destination country.

  7. surplus peasants from the countryside moved to the United States instead of Mexico City, relieving pressure on Mexico City elites and their lifestyles.

    I wonder if we’ll get a thank-you card?

    It’s been mentioned a few times; but not enough; that much of the Mexican migration was planned and coordinated from a central authority. Mexicans would show up in my town with a card listing state and federal programs they could apply for; programs almost none of the locals knew about.

    Sometime back in the comments someone mentioned the consular VISA scam.

    Reminds me of WWII, when Germany started their invasion of Norway by sending the soldiers there on vacation.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @bomag

    And Scott Walker has arranged with Mexico City to open two Mexican consulates in Wisconsin to insure that Mexican mojados are put on the government teat as soon as possible.

  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The skunk Drudge had a headline up today: 223 Illegals Deported From SoCal.

    This is the same crap he pulled during the flood 2000-2010.

    We’ve got 30 million illegals who have jumped the border. But Drudge is here to make you think “stuff is getting done” …

    Drudge = Deception

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Anonymous

    If it wasn't for Drudge we'd already have an amnesty and millions more massed at the Mexican border.

    This story is news worthy because interior enforcement has all but ceased under Obama.

    , @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    I think you miss the thing that Drudge has the most fun with, in this case highlighting the 223 illegals deported among the millions who've wetbacked the border.

    Sort of like Steve does with his titles.

  9. @Lot
    Mexico City is nice if you can afford it. And it isn't expensive, with decent wages for skilled workers and professionals. But not for unskilled ex-peasant labor. Like Southern California, its former large industrial base is being pushed out by rising costs and environmental regulations in favor of government, non-profit and the service economy.

    A fair amount of the central areas look like Europe and distant suburbs look American.

    Not Paris:
    http://www.arca-lab.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/colonia-roma.jpg

    Not Plano:
    http://mexicanatheart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/mexicocitysign.jpg

    The subway system is better than any in the United States:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Mexico_City_Metro_System_Diagram_%282013-03-01%29.png

    I posted a comment a few weeks ago showing Mexico as a whole is richer than much of Eastern Europe, and if you just include the Mexico City and Monterrey areas it is richer than nearly all of eastern europe and comparable to poorer parts of the American South.

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Anon 2, @(((Owen))), @Jefferson, @Thea

    That map of the Mexico City subway system has some interesting station names.
    At the intersection of the yellow line and the dull-green line is a station called La Raza. Which race is that? That raaaaycist! And at the intersection of the yellow line and the gray line is Oceania. We have always been at war with Oceania.

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    @Mark "That map of the Mexico City subway system has some interesting station names."

    Yes.

    "At the intersection of the yellow line and the dull-green line is a station called La Raza. Which race is that?"

    La Raza Cósmica is the idea of Mexican former Sec'y of Education José Vasconcelos. He noticed that Mexicans had a racial self-loathing dynamic (not unique!) and worked to redefine it. As an esteemed literary figure, he wrote essays promoting the idea of a 'cosmic race' descended from the mix of natives and Europeans that had a valid place of its own and contributions to make to the world. Being the sons of the Aztec Empire, the Maya civilisation, Spanish conquistadors, Chinese and Lebanese traders, Toltec city builders, and Olmec plant breeders should be more pride than shame. Pride is not a bad attitude for any nation to take up about itself.

    I like Insurgentes (my home station) and Revolución. Those are stations for a subway system that could rise up for freedom on any given day. ('División del Norte' also was Pancho Villa's insurgent army.)

  10. What passes for a prodigy in Guatemala or Somalia, if such beings exist, is unlikely to be very prodigious in Los Angeles or London and, as noted, you can have a very nice life in Mexico or Kenya as a big frog in a smaller pond. OTOH the dregs of the Third World find any life in the West superior to what they will have in Tegucigalpa or Lagos so if they are able and allowed to come, come they will.

  11. @Lot
    Another reason Mexican elites and upper middle classes don't leave is the weather is so nice. Americans often think of Mexico as tropical, but its capital and largest city has cooler summers than nearly all well-populated parts of the United States. The average high and low in Mexico City is 75/55 in August and 71/45 in January. The all-time record high is 93. Those numbers for Monterrey, Mexico's second city, are 83/72 in August and 69/47 in January.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @jjbees

    Lot, you are way, way wrong on Monterrey. It has average highs over 90F for the entire summer and regularly is over 100F:

    http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/l/MXNL0068:1:MX

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Anonymous

    Thank you for the correction, I was typing off the wrong column. I used the right low figures for Monterrey, but used the daily average in place of the high.

  12. Faceboat

  13. Thought you might find this interesting, Steve:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/31/obama-not-a-smidgen-of-evidence-suggesting-im-anti-semitic/

    President Obama challenged critics who suggested that he was anti-Semitic as he continues to promote his nuclear deal with Iran, ignoring Israeli leaders who are expressing concerns about it.

    “There’s not a smidgen of evidence for it, other than the fact that there have been times where I’ve disagreed with a particular Israeli government’s position on a particular issue,” Obama said in an interview with Forward.com when asked how he felt about the accusation.

    Obama asserted that he cared deeply about Israel, which is why wants to be honest about his views about their security. But he admitted that he was more upset about people who criticized Jewish members of his administration for supporting the deal with Iran.

    “I get probably more offended when I hear members of my administration who themselves are Jewish being attacked,” Obama explained.

    That kind of rhetoric, he says, reminds him of the “being black enough” accusation among African-Americans.

    Trump mocks Bush’s “bravery of love”:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/31/donald-trump-mocks-jeb-bushs-act-of-love-comment-on-illegal-immigration/

  14. • Replies: @Priss Factor
    @Priss Factor

    https://books.google.com/books?id=PjYSgQSCIlsC&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=yukio+mishima+old+age&source=bl&ots=GR_JCIxpBr&sig=Q54CqeafGHMfi-l7KRAzX1PYSv0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDMQ6AEwBmoVChMIh9zno9_UxwIVim8-Ch37PQug#v=onepage&q=yukio%20mishima%20old%20age&f=false


    Mishima was a homo narcissist too. And he resorted to violence... albeit for a loftier cause.

  15. @Priss Factor
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216957/When-heads-stop-turning-s-AWFUL-TV-gunman-complained-lack-sex-lamented-glory-days-2-000-night-prostitute-suicide-letter.html

    Shiite!! Black Sex Lives Matter.

    Esp if homo.

    Negro-aggressions and homo-aggressions are pretty wild.

    Replies: @Priss Factor

  16. In Mongolia, 2/3 of the population live in one city. In Japan, some people want to move the capital in part because there are still people moving to Tokyo from the countryside. Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city. Telecommuting is a SWPL conceit.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    @Chrisnonymous

    "Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city."

    Ever hear of proximity to nature, clean air, starry skies, hiking trails, etc?

    Lots of reason not to live in the big city.

    Now, with so much stuff accessible via the net, there is less need to live in the city, esp as so many bookstores and record shops have closed down.

    There are restaurants but I don't need over-priced raw fish.

    Replies: @Luke Lea, @Spike Gomes, @Chrisnonymous

    , @SPMoore8
    @Chrisnonymous

    I know half a dozen people who work from home, 2-3 days a week. Most of them are women, who are doing it because of children, but not all. Distances covered are as few as a couple of miles and as many as 80-90 miles. Basically any work involving spreadsheets or writing or typing or book keeping can be done remotely.

    Why work remotely? Well, it's a way to make a living and not have to live in cities. A lot of people don't like the crowdedness, noise, and general frenetic activity of cities. They also don't want to raise their children in areas with high crime, drugs, and motorists who are always in a big hurry.

    I wouldn't say that it is "common", but it's not "uncommon" either.

    , @Ozymandias
    @Chrisnonymous

    "Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city."

    Why one would have to be deranged to want to live in the country when they could be huddled in their makeshift bunker in some crime infested shithole.

  17. “The information age makes it very easy for a small town kid to find an apartment, a job, and a social network in the big cities and growth areas. ”

    Because nobody ever thought of that before. That’s why there has been a shortage of waiters and other skilled craftsmen in New York City since the turn of the century. (The fin de siècle turn of the century, the one before the war our grandfathers fought in.) Like that Tin Pan Alley song, “How You Gonna Keep ‘Em Down on the Farm After They’ve Seen Borough Park”.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Busby

    Yeah, I don't think social media and electronic media in general have had that much additional impact in driving migration. They've probably had more of an impact in hindering assimilation. Instead of learning English you can Skype with friends and relatives in the old country, watch satellite TV in your own language, etc.

    Replies: @Forbes

  18. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    How is that possible? Monterrey is two hours west of McAllen, Tx (hot as anything). I know it has a famous mountain there but the town itself is not on the mountain.

  19. @Lot
    Another reason Mexican elites and upper middle classes don't leave is the weather is so nice. Americans often think of Mexico as tropical, but its capital and largest city has cooler summers than nearly all well-populated parts of the United States. The average high and low in Mexico City is 75/55 in August and 71/45 in January. The all-time record high is 93. Those numbers for Monterrey, Mexico's second city, are 83/72 in August and 69/47 in January.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @jjbees

    What if we let the mexicans and h1bs have America, and we simply all move to mexico city?

  20. Had a college girlfriend go on a study abroad in Guatemala for 6 weeks. Her dad and I said she was crazy, but she said she’d get a bunch of credits and they’d be in the best part of Guatemala City, so whatever. She came back shocked: “Half of the people we hung out with were whiter than you!” (I’m tan for a white guy; 1/16 Cherokee, I swear. And she grew up in a naive bubble and had no idea about the Latin American hierarchy.) She said one night the Guatemalan elite kids told the TX A&M kids, basically, “You guys are stupid. We send you the worst we have, and you take them and pay for them!” This was in 2002 I think.

    Couple of years later I’m friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala, and a former Miss Guatemala (he came back with the videos after one Christmas Break to prove it; yes she was hot, but I forget the last name.) After we became better friends I asked him about this. He laughed and said, “Yeah everybody there laughs about that.”

    I’m going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times. The racism BS is all a scam from the Latin elite that the Left and cuckservative Right eats up with pleasure.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bobby

    "I’m going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times."

    From his tenants in the elevators in Trump Tower, probably.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Priss Factor
    @Bobby

    ROTFL

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Miss+Guatemala&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI9IS7w6LVxwIVAkw-Ch0JqwS2&biw=1280&bih=599

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Brutusale

    , @Jefferson
    @Bobby

    "Couple of years later I’m friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala,"

    I live in California which has a large Guatemalan population and I have literally seen ZERO Guatemalans who are as blue eyed and blonde as Katie Couric.

    The "Whitest" Guatemalans I have seen looked like Jennifer Lopez and Roselyn Sanchez at best. Guatemala is so Amerindian that by Guatemalan standards Jennifer Lopez might as well be a Swede.

    Replies: @Bobby, @PistolPete, @IBC

    , @Stan d Mute
    @Bobby


    The racism BS is all a scam from the Latin elite that the Left and cuckservative Right eats up with pleasure.
     
    Part of it is that so incredibly few Americans have ever traveled abroad, even to Mexico or Canada, and even among those who have there is the American educational system's trained opposition to *noticing*. So when you are in one of the best (non-tourist) restaurants in Mexico City or Panama City, you don't really register that your fellow patrons are all the same and wholly unlike the Indio in the back of the kitchen washing dishes. And those of us who do *notice* are fully programmed with the WASP opposition to impolite commentary.
  21. OT.
    Bimbo Ayelabola of Lagos gets free $223,000 caesarean for quintuplets at UK hospital. But at least she went home afterwards.

    African mum of quintuplets let off £145,000 NHS bill: Health tourist who came to UK to give birth says no one’s asked her to pay [Daily Mail]

    A Nigerian health tourist who cost the NHS £145,000 having quintuplets has said she never even saw a bill.

    Bimbo Ayelabola, 37, had to have a complex caesarean section after travelling to Britain while pregnant in 2011.

    The operation and neo-natal care for the five babies cost the Health Service in excess of £145,000 – but Miss Ayelabola never paid a penny towards the bill.

    The hospital involved yesterday admitted it sent only one request for payment, more than six months after Miss Ayelabola left the hospital – and had failed to take any further action when it was returned unpaid.

    The case follows a series of revelations by the Mail on the true scale of health tourism in Britain. NHS whistleblowers have told how bosses are instructing them to turn a blind eye to health tourists because it is ‘too much trouble’ to chase them for money.

    Only around 16 per cent of the cost of treating health tourists is ever clawed back, according to NHS estimates.

    The Nigerian mother obtained a visitor’s visa soon after discovering she was pregnant in 2010, travelling to the UK to stay with her younger sister, Stella, early in her pregnancy.

    The true cost of health tourism NHS is unknown, but a Government commissioned report in 2013 put it as high as £2billion.

    Experts say even this is an underestimate – because the vast majority of overseas patients are never identified by hospitals.

    By law, only patients who usually live in the UK are entitled to free hospital care. But the NHS is legally obliged to provide care to anyone if their life is at risk or treatment is considered ‘immediately necessary’ – and they have to claw the costs back later.

    GP appointments are also provided free for everyone. A&E and maternity care are always considered immediately necessary.

    This means patients from overseas who are heavily pregnant women or needing kidney dialysis will often target the NHS.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Weird, because when I was treated by the NHS and my insurance company dragged its heels on paying, the NHS smacked me with a very aggressive collection agency. It wasn't pretty. I ended up having to pay out of pocket and then try to recoup from my private insurance. But then I'm a white American.

  22. The women look pretty good too in Mexico City.

    • Replies: @Uncle Peregrine
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Maybe it's just that I'm too old and tired to go out anymore, but I associate these large nightclubs in Spanish speaking cities with deadly fires and insufficient emergency exits.

    , @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "The women look pretty good too in Mexico City."

    The few blondes you see in that upscale night club in Mexico City are all women. There were ZERO blond haired men in that upscale Mexico City nightclub.

    Mexico is like Iran, women have a monopoly on blondness because the men in these two countries do not like to dye their hair blond, only the women like to dye their hair blonde. That is why "blonde" women in Iran and Mexico pretty much all have dark brown haired/black haired husbands/boyfriends.

    A romantic couple where both the woman and the man are blond would stick out like a sore thumb in Mexico. "Blonde" women in Mexico pretty much all end up with guys that are darker than them. The "blonde" women in Mexico all end up with guys who look like Alberto Del Rio from the WWE and Antonio Banderas. "Blonde" women in Mexico all end up with Non Nordic guys.

    Unlike in the U.S where it is still extremely common for blonde haired women to end up with blond haired guys who look like Aaron Carter from The Backstreet Boys and Ryan Gosling.

    I am not surprised there is a lack of blond haired men in Mexico for "blonde" haired women to date/marry, since the vast majority of Caucasoid immigration to Mexico was from Spain and The Middle East. Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @IBC, @Kyle McKenna

  23. After decades of moral deficit due to WWII, Germans are making a move for moral superiority… by embracing racial suicide.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/hundreds-refugees-arrive-vienna-munich-150901020009782.html

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/merkel-refugee-crisis-tests-europe-core-ideals-150831152050214.html

    Core ideal of Europe is to abandon Europe to foreign invaders.

    Merkel is a ‘conservative’?

  24. Mexico is actually a very nice place to live if you have the means.

    The emigration dynamic from Mexico, due to its standard of living and American proximity, is just about the opposite of most land masses separated from the U.S. by oceans. IOW, people leaving Ghana (or anywhere in Africa) are the “winners” whereas those leaving Mexico…work in car washes.

  25. @Lot
    Mexico City is nice if you can afford it. And it isn't expensive, with decent wages for skilled workers and professionals. But not for unskilled ex-peasant labor. Like Southern California, its former large industrial base is being pushed out by rising costs and environmental regulations in favor of government, non-profit and the service economy.

    A fair amount of the central areas look like Europe and distant suburbs look American.

    Not Paris:
    http://www.arca-lab.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/colonia-roma.jpg

    Not Plano:
    http://mexicanatheart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/mexicocitysign.jpg

    The subway system is better than any in the United States:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Mexico_City_Metro_System_Diagram_%282013-03-01%29.png

    I posted a comment a few weeks ago showing Mexico as a whole is richer than much of Eastern Europe, and if you just include the Mexico City and Monterrey areas it is richer than nearly all of eastern europe and comparable to poorer parts of the American South.

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Anon 2, @(((Owen))), @Jefferson, @Thea

    Mexico has about the same GDP per capita (PPP)
    as Bulgaria, the poorest country in the EU:

    Mexico $18,370
    Bulgaria $17,869

    but is much poorer than an Eastern European country like Russia (about $23,000)
    except for the poorest white country in the world – Ukraine ($7,400).

    On the other hand, Central European countries like the Czech Republic and Poland
    are much richer:

    Czech R. $30,895
    Poland $26,210

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Anon 2


    except for the poorest white country in the world – Ukraine ($7,400).
     
    Moldova is poorer. Using a liberal definition of white, so is Uzbekistan, Syria, and Afghanistan.

    I've met several lovely young Ukrainian refugees in random places the past year in San Diego, I don't remember encountering any before then. One was a store clerk, another a community college student.

    Replies: @Anon 2

    , @PistolPete
    @Anon 2

    Americans are unfamiliar with how South America works, or what it is like.

    Mexico per capita GDP gets massively skewed downwards because of extremely backward, non-white, rural areas. I don´t have authority on Mexico but here in Brazil per capita GDP is lowered because of such large non-white populations. I know that sounds obvious, but let me explain.

    There are whole regions of Brazil, primarily in the Northeast(no whites + arid desert) that have no economy to speak of, in the sense a European or an Americans would understand it. Literally little villages of self sustaining farmers or migrant workers who cut sugar cane for the season and come back home with a little bartering cash.

    I imagine this is what happens in Mexico too.

    Mexico´s, GDP looks weak compared to Eastern Europe because it gets averaged down.When in reality a white in Mexico City is better off than some Moldovan peasant. And if you exclude crime affecting quality of life, whites in Mexico are probably better off than most of Europe. As Sailer points out, America is wealthy for its large empty land filled with plenty and so is South America (relatively speaking). Just because Mexico´s GDP is low doesn´t mean it tells the whole story. If they broke it down to GDP per race it would probably show that.

    Replies: @dsgntd_plyr

  26. iSteveFan says:

    Some guy in Ghana is barraged by his cousins in Europe posting cellphone photos of their amazing lives, so he spends $5k to sneak into Europe. There he finds that maybe his life isn’t quite as wonderful as he’d expected, but he can still brag to the naive folks back home. Which is nice.

    As I read that I recalled a popular song from the early ’70s about a guy experiencing the reality of making it in SoCal. In the song the guy laments, “Out of work, I’m out of my head; Out of self respect, I’m out of bread; I’m underloved, I’m underfed, I wanna go home”

    Unfortunately the invaders who discover that Europe and North America are not what they thought don’t seem to wanna go home. Though the streets aren’t paved with gold, the bennies are still pretty good, and no one is ever really underfed.

  27. • Replies: @Ed
    @Priss Factor

    This is why I say they should let them
    come. To many in Europe being seen as tolerant among their peers is far more important than leaving the country they inherited to their kids.

    Let Iceland turn into Syria North. Let Italy turn into Eritrea by the Mediterranean. The people want it, give it to them.

    Replies: @Undocumented Shopper, @Anonymous

    , @Undocumented Shopper
    @Priss Factor

    Well, Nordics can also be dumb. It makes perfect sense that Iceland is the country where all banks went bankrupt.

  28. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-31/czech-president-calls-for-army-to-defend-border-against-migrants

    Invaded by Germans, invaded by Soviets, now invaded by Africans.

    One man stands up.

    Patriot.

  29. New York, Los Angeles, D.C., Silicon Valley, Portland, and Austin have all benefited from these trends.

    I’ve lived in most of those cities. Benefited how, exactly?

  30. here is common sailer theme:

    http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/31/the-border-hoppers-liberals-dont-love/

    Blue elites in liberal enclaves are cracking down on ‘open borders’ interlopers from outside school districts enrolling in their spiffy high performing schools. One parent from Berkeley made an offer after football practice to give some other players a lift home and spent a couple of hours driving around Oakland. Crackdowns on out of district parents can come with restitution resembling college tuition. But these crackdowns are on American students.

    Yet the same places are sanctuary cities and illegal children impose significant costs on local taxpayers. The essay stated Pennsylvania carried $600 million dollars in cost for children of illegals. And a map in the essay showed the state having less than 3.5% of schoolcildren being illegals. The entire west of the US has 10% or more. Imagine the costs to local taxpayers with the benefits accruing to elites that own businesses.

    That has been a recurring theme in me talking about my town. There are no illegals here, yet. It is right on the border and there is some visible border patrol presence, often on my street. There is agriculture and local growers would pull them in a minute if they could get away with it. But ‘la migre’ scares the illegals off. They stick out like sore thumb here and if someone wanted a quiet job, border patrol on the northern border would be ideal.

    But as I have said before, the lack of blacks and Latinos keeps the costs down and enables the school to do other things with its money because it doesn’t to pay for learning support for English Language Learners or gobs of school security. The 8 year old had to carry a swim suit to school yesterday because there would be pool time. This in a town with a median income that is below $50,000.

    Notice though that I have never named my town, state, etc. here on iSteve nor any other social media. And since there there no Latinos then none of them are on FB saying, “Aqui es muy bueno. Tiene piscina en la escuela para los ninos.”

  31. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Well, if it’s not the internet it might be cheap old outboard motors.

    Travel is really cheap these days. Boats, cars, trains…. even without airplanes so many could never travel so far so easily… When everyone can travel anywhere on earth in under a day real cheap (we’ll all have flying car backpacks, I think I heard), everyone on the planet will be able to go to the same place for lunch. “You did what? How am I supposed to feed 8 billion people!”

  32. @JohnnyWalker123
    The women look pretty good too in Mexico City.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyf40qvGUDg

    Replies: @Uncle Peregrine, @Jefferson

    Maybe it’s just that I’m too old and tired to go out anymore, but I associate these large nightclubs in Spanish speaking cities with deadly fires and insufficient emergency exits.

  33. The elites of Mexico do not care about the Indian peasant classes. The elites of the United States are anxious to recreate that wonderful social structure in the US. A great mass of peasantry to be lorded over by a hyper wealthy hereditary elite. El Jefe Jeb is working both angles: Open immigration to provide the impoverished peasantry and lower marginal rates on the very wealthy (and the Bush family)to provide the “nobility”. Queen Hillary will do the same but instead of lower marginal rates, it looks as if she would rather concentrate on bringing in Latin American levels of corruption.

  34. Libertarian Rankin-ism.

  35. “…while Europe is roiled by debates over how to handle migrants crossing the Mediterranean.”

    Only the incompetent and ideologically twisted elites, I think. The majority of ordinary people seem to be more robust as evidenced by the fierce words in newspaper comments sections when I am able to read them (notwithstanding the likely right-on sentiments of the actual newspaper copy). This is a feature that seems to unite the non-elite people of the West.

  36. Yes, the GOP could have precluded Donald Trump by forcing, over Obama’s impeachment and conviction and removal from office, deportation of illegals and building a massive fence. No, it would not keep everyone out. The Berlin Wall and other Iron Curtains did not keep everyone in, either. But it worked pretty well and so would an American Wall.

    American and European prosperity are the result of a series of happy accidents, genetics, culture, race, religion, geography, and a lot more. You can’t just dump the Global Poor onto either and expect anything other than bad things to happen. Both are lifeboats easily swamped.

    Re my other comment viz Israel, in Israel the socially isolated, religiously devout (just PC religion, not Judaism or Christianity), geographically isolated elite (i.e. Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem or the north) wants to tear down the border fences and make Israel into Addis Abbaba on the Med. Or perhaps Mogadishu. They have been stopped because even Labor leaders can realize that within a few years they not only won’t be running things, they won’t even be in the Knesset. And the immigrants will vote themselves the Labor leaders apartments and bank accounts.

    Smaller nations, with thinner margins of survival are more sensitive to lifeboat demographics, see Hungary, still desperately poor (and yes, poorer as above in another comment than Mexico). Merkel has more margin but she’s practically begging for her party to unseat her (reading between the lines in the FT the immigrant stuff is to appeal to the idiot religious zealots the Greens). Orban is not getting much criticism at home because its either Fidez or Jobbik, and no one wants to live in what would amount to Greater Syria meets Afghanistan meets Africa.

    Trumps emergence in other words is a function of the lifeboat being swamped. Even more thoughtful Black voters realize that being a Casino Indian tribe in reverse (voting in more members) is not a winning hand.

  37. @Bobby
    Had a college girlfriend go on a study abroad in Guatemala for 6 weeks. Her dad and I said she was crazy, but she said she'd get a bunch of credits and they'd be in the best part of Guatemala City, so whatever. She came back shocked: "Half of the people we hung out with were whiter than you!" (I'm tan for a white guy; 1/16 Cherokee, I swear. And she grew up in a naive bubble and had no idea about the Latin American hierarchy.) She said one night the Guatemalan elite kids told the TX A&M kids, basically, "You guys are stupid. We send you the worst we have, and you take them and pay for them!" This was in 2002 I think.

    Couple of years later I'm friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala, and a former Miss Guatemala (he came back with the videos after one Christmas Break to prove it; yes she was hot, but I forget the last name.) After we became better friends I asked him about this. He laughed and said, "Yeah everybody there laughs about that."

    I'm going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times. The racism BS is all a scam from the Latin elite that the Left and cuckservative Right eats up with pleasure.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Priss Factor, @Jefferson, @Stan d Mute

    “I’m going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times.”

    From his tenants in the elevators in Trump Tower, probably.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer



    I’m going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times
     
    From his tenants in the elevators in Trump Tower, probably.

     

    Or from his many connections in international beauty pageantry.
  38. @Anonymous
    @Lot

    Lot, you are way, way wrong on Monterrey. It has average highs over 90F for the entire summer and regularly is over 100F:

    http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/l/MXNL0068:1:MX

    Replies: @Lot

    Thank you for the correction, I was typing off the wrong column. I used the right low figures for Monterrey, but used the daily average in place of the high.

  39. @Lot
    Mexico City is nice if you can afford it. And it isn't expensive, with decent wages for skilled workers and professionals. But not for unskilled ex-peasant labor. Like Southern California, its former large industrial base is being pushed out by rising costs and environmental regulations in favor of government, non-profit and the service economy.

    A fair amount of the central areas look like Europe and distant suburbs look American.

    Not Paris:
    http://www.arca-lab.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/colonia-roma.jpg

    Not Plano:
    http://mexicanatheart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/mexicocitysign.jpg

    The subway system is better than any in the United States:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Mexico_City_Metro_System_Diagram_%282013-03-01%29.png

    I posted a comment a few weeks ago showing Mexico as a whole is richer than much of Eastern Europe, and if you just include the Mexico City and Monterrey areas it is richer than nearly all of eastern europe and comparable to poorer parts of the American South.

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Anon 2, @(((Owen))), @Jefferson, @Thea

    That’s a beautiful shot of Orizaba at Álvaro Obregón. I used to live there. The next three million people south of there live in similar European-style neighborhoods and none of those are even the rich parts of Mexico City.

    You suggest that Mexico City (and Regiolandia) are richer than Eastern Europe and the American South. Cost of living adjustments understate how well off Mexico is so it’s more even than that. And Mexico City and Monterrey aren’t as rich as El Bajío with millions more rich Mexicans.

    It’s especially acute for college grads. The average Mexican college graduate already earns more than the average US college grad the same age, taking cost of living into account.

    Now being working class in Mexico is hard and being one of fifteen million underclass indians is harder. But Mexico’s education system is growing and there are more college spots open every year. The competition isn’t getting harder anymore because the birthrate fell to replacement fifteen years ago.

    Mexico continues to send a lot of underclass peasants to the USA relieving the pressure from less educable people in a modern economy. A lot come back, though, so net migration is near zero. Well educated people don’t come north much; why move to a poorer country for college grads?

    America really kicks young people in the teeth with housing policy, transportation policy, and employment policy. A college educated twenty-seven year old Mexican can be married with two kids and a starter home in a big cosmopolitan city while and in America, he would still be struggling with college loans and rent.

    Of course that doesn’t help Americans decide what to do with the mass illegal immigration problem from Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Indochina. Mexico — fighting our drug war — isn’t inclined to help and just waves them through. Any who try to stop off in Mexico will see harsh treatment and penalties unknown in America. After all, Mexico already has too few jobs for working class people — best to save them for Mexicans. Pass ’em off to America where nobody cares about its working people.

  40. @Anon 2
    @Lot

    Mexico has about the same GDP per capita (PPP)
    as Bulgaria, the poorest country in the EU:

    Mexico $18,370
    Bulgaria $17,869

    but is much poorer than an Eastern European country like Russia (about $23,000)
    except for the poorest white country in the world - Ukraine ($7,400).

    On the other hand, Central European countries like the Czech Republic and Poland
    are much richer:

    Czech R. $30,895
    Poland $26,210

    Replies: @Lot, @PistolPete

    except for the poorest white country in the world – Ukraine ($7,400).

    Moldova is poorer. Using a liberal definition of white, so is Uzbekistan, Syria, and Afghanistan.

    I’ve met several lovely young Ukrainian refugees in random places the past year in San Diego, I don’t remember encountering any before then. One was a store clerk, another a community college student.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Lot

    Of course, I meant a normal-sized country. True, Moldova is a bit poorer
    than Ukraine but with a population of just under 3 million it barely
    qualifies as a country.

    Ukraine's population (currently about 43 million) is dropping precipitously.
    At least 1.5 million Ukrainian refugees are now in Russia, and about
    400,000 Ukrainians escaped to Poland, although the latter are typically
    on short-term work permits (which can be extended indefinitely, it
    seems) or college-age students.

    NY Times had an article several weeks ago that said that crossing the
    border from Poland into Ukraine is like going back in time from the
    21st century into the 19th century. Much of Ukraine and Russia is in
    a severe state of disrepair. This is what Communism did to that whol
    area

  41. Someone posted fliers in some people’s mailboxes in Southfield, Michigan saying lets vote the Blacks out of Southfield this November.

    It was most likely a hoax “hate crime” committed by a Black person. Southfield, Michigan is a whopping 70 percent Black. So it is not exactly a Whitopia full of racist Republicans and Rednecks.
    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/11191781-story

    Since the general population is 70 percent Black, Southfield’s K-12 public schools are probably anywhere from 95 percent Black to 99 percent Black.

    In majority Chocolate cities, the K-12 public school population tend to be even more Chocolate than the adult population.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jefferson


    Southfield, Michigan is a whopping 70 percent Black.
     
    35 years ago, my uncle in Michigan told me Southfield was a Jewish town. I laughed and said the only Southfielder I'd known, a shipmate, was black. I guess he was looking at the past, and I at the future.

    By the way, Southfield was (/is?) famous for being the headquarters of one of Canada's top radio stations, CKLW. They were always getting in trouble with the authorities for insufficient "Canadian content". They got some revenge when their cover version of Gordon Sinclair's "The Americans" surpassed the original on the charts. It was certainly Canadian, but not what Trudeaupians had in mind.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Jefferson

    In majority Chocolate cities, the K-12 public school population tend to be even more Chocolate than the adult population.

     

    Hmmm, chocolate cities...
    , @Clyde
    @Jefferson

    And just 35 years ago the nearby suburb of Southfield was where Detroit whites escaped to. Now a black suburb.
    And Pontiac stadium only lasted 27 years hosting the Lions which must be a record for a major league venue

  42. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    In Mongolia, 2/3 of the population live in one city. In Japan, some people want to move the capital in part because there are still people moving to Tokyo from the countryside. Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city. Telecommuting is a SWPL conceit.

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @SPMoore8, @Ozymandias

    “Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city.”

    Ever hear of proximity to nature, clean air, starry skies, hiking trails, etc?

    Lots of reason not to live in the big city.

    Now, with so much stuff accessible via the net, there is less need to live in the city, esp as so many bookstores and record shops have closed down.

    There are restaurants but I don’t need over-priced raw fish.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @Luke Lea
    @Priss Factor


    “Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city.”

    Ever hear of proximity to nature, clean air, starry skies, hiking trails, etc?

    Lots of reason not to live in the big city.

    Now, with so much stuff accessible via the net, there is less need to live in the city, esp as so many bookstores and record shops have closed down.
     
    You might like this: http://goo.gl/C4k2H7
    , @Spike Gomes
    @Priss Factor

    Honestly, the only ethnic groups who like those things are Northern Europeans and Northern Native Americans. For most other groups, wild nature is either something that's long been gone in their civilizational memory (Southern Europeans and East Asians) or a place you're glad to be away from because it's a deadly nasty sweltering place filled with poisonous insects and hungry animals (most people with descent from tropical areas).

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Priss Factor

    I don't like cities, and I like all the things you mention, but I also like a lot of other stuff white people like (I'm not a Budweiser fan like Steve).

    Mr. Spike Gomes gets it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  43. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @Lot

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Mexico_City_Metro_System_Diagram_%282013-03-01%29.png

    That map of the Mexico City subway system has some interesting station names.
    At the intersection of the yellow line and the dull-green line is a station called La Raza. Which race is that? That raaaaycist! And at the intersection of the yellow line and the gray line is Oceania. We have always been at war with Oceania.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

    @Mark “That map of the Mexico City subway system has some interesting station names.”

    Yes.

    “At the intersection of the yellow line and the dull-green line is a station called La Raza. Which race is that?”

    La Raza Cósmica is the idea of Mexican former Sec’y of Education José Vasconcelos. He noticed that Mexicans had a racial self-loathing dynamic (not unique!) and worked to redefine it. As an esteemed literary figure, he wrote essays promoting the idea of a ‘cosmic race’ descended from the mix of natives and Europeans that had a valid place of its own and contributions to make to the world. Being the sons of the Aztec Empire, the Maya civilisation, Spanish conquistadors, Chinese and Lebanese traders, Toltec city builders, and Olmec plant breeders should be more pride than shame. Pride is not a bad attitude for any nation to take up about itself.

    I like Insurgentes (my home station) and Revolución. Those are stations for a subway system that could rise up for freedom on any given day. (‘División del Norte’ also was Pancho Villa’s insurgent army.)

  44. @Bobby
    Had a college girlfriend go on a study abroad in Guatemala for 6 weeks. Her dad and I said she was crazy, but she said she'd get a bunch of credits and they'd be in the best part of Guatemala City, so whatever. She came back shocked: "Half of the people we hung out with were whiter than you!" (I'm tan for a white guy; 1/16 Cherokee, I swear. And she grew up in a naive bubble and had no idea about the Latin American hierarchy.) She said one night the Guatemalan elite kids told the TX A&M kids, basically, "You guys are stupid. We send you the worst we have, and you take them and pay for them!" This was in 2002 I think.

    Couple of years later I'm friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala, and a former Miss Guatemala (he came back with the videos after one Christmas Break to prove it; yes she was hot, but I forget the last name.) After we became better friends I asked him about this. He laughed and said, "Yeah everybody there laughs about that."

    I'm going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times. The racism BS is all a scam from the Latin elite that the Left and cuckservative Right eats up with pleasure.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Priss Factor, @Jefferson, @Stan d Mute

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Priss Factor

    Guat the f***…?

    , @Brutusale
    @Priss Factor

    I would imagine that most of these girls are about as Guatemalan as Gisele Bundchen is Brazilian.

    Or the latest Miss Universe Japan is Japanese!

    http://news.yahoo.com/black-miss-japan-fights-race-revolution-041830696.html

    Replies: @5371

  45. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    One good thing about the Syrian refugee crisis.

    We get to see the human face of suffering caused by Western meddling.

    Prior to those people arriving in the West, all the 100,000s of dead and maimed were faceless as the media ignore civilian suffering in other nations.
    So, we heard the numbers and stats but saw no faces.
    Now, we see the faces weary with misery and suffering.

    All of this could have been avoided by the West just minding its own business.

    But we needed to at least see the faces of victims of crisis unleashed by globalist intervention and meddling.

    Alas, Buchanan’s ‘isolationism’ would have been more humane to everyone in the Middle East and in Europe.

    • Agree: Marat
  46. @Lot
    Mexico City is nice if you can afford it. And it isn't expensive, with decent wages for skilled workers and professionals. But not for unskilled ex-peasant labor. Like Southern California, its former large industrial base is being pushed out by rising costs and environmental regulations in favor of government, non-profit and the service economy.

    A fair amount of the central areas look like Europe and distant suburbs look American.

    Not Paris:
    http://www.arca-lab.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/colonia-roma.jpg

    Not Plano:
    http://mexicanatheart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/mexicocitysign.jpg

    The subway system is better than any in the United States:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Mexico_City_Metro_System_Diagram_%282013-03-01%29.png

    I posted a comment a few weeks ago showing Mexico as a whole is richer than much of Eastern Europe, and if you just include the Mexico City and Monterrey areas it is richer than nearly all of eastern europe and comparable to poorer parts of the American South.

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Anon 2, @(((Owen))), @Jefferson, @Thea

    “I posted a comment a few weeks ago showing Mexico as a whole is richer than much of Eastern Europe,”

    WRONG. Mexico has a lower human development index than the vast majority of Eastern European countries.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#Very_high_human_development

    Heck even many Latin American countries have a higher human development index than Mexico. These Latin countries are Uruguay, Chile, Argentina, Cuba, Venezuela, Costa Rica, and Panama.

    So don’t even dare try to paint Mexico as a first world country. It’s human development index is closer to that of Sri Lanka than it is to The United States.

  47. @Jefferson
    Someone posted fliers in some people's mailboxes in Southfield, Michigan saying lets vote the Blacks out of Southfield this November.

    It was most likely a hoax "hate crime" committed by a Black person. Southfield, Michigan is a whopping 70 percent Black. So it is not exactly a Whitopia full of racist Republicans and Rednecks.
    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/11191781-story

    Since the general population is 70 percent Black, Southfield's K-12 public schools are probably anywhere from 95 percent Black to 99 percent Black.

    In majority Chocolate cities, the K-12 public school population tend to be even more Chocolate than the adult population.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Clyde

    Southfield, Michigan is a whopping 70 percent Black.

    35 years ago, my uncle in Michigan told me Southfield was a Jewish town. I laughed and said the only Southfielder I’d known, a shipmate, was black. I guess he was looking at the past, and I at the future.

    By the way, Southfield was (/is?) famous for being the headquarters of one of Canada’s top radio stations, CKLW. They were always getting in trouble with the authorities for insufficient “Canadian content”. They got some revenge when their cover version of Gordon Sinclair’s “The Americans” surpassed the original on the charts. It was certainly Canadian, but not what Trudeaupians had in mind.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Reg Cæsar

    "35 years ago, my uncle in Michigan told me Southfield was a Jewish town. I laughed and said the only Southfielder I’d known, a shipmate, was black. I guess he was looking at the past, and I at the future.

    By the way, Southfield was (/is?) famous for being the headquarters of one of Canada’s top radio stations, CKLW. They were always getting in trouble with the authorities for insufficient “Canadian content”. They got some revenge when their cover version of Gordon Sinclair’s “The Americans” surpassed the original on the charts. It was certainly Canadian, but not what Trudeaupians had in mind."

    I wonder what most White Canadians opinion of Black Michigan residents is. Meaning what most of them privately think.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

  48. The percentage of Whites in Mexico is so low that among it’s 31 federal states, not a single Mexican state is majority White. And in only 1 out of it’s 31 states are “Whites” even a plurality.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico#Demographics

    What passes for a “Whitopia” in Mexico is not a White majority but a White plurality.

    That’s what the American elites want for our country, the Mexicanization of the U.S where Whites are a Minority in all 50 states and if we are “lucky” some states will have a White plurality at best.

  49. @Steve Sailer
    @Bobby

    "I’m going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times."

    From his tenants in the elevators in Trump Tower, probably.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’m going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times

    From his tenants in the elevators in Trump Tower, probably.

    Or from his many connections in international beauty pageantry.

  50. @Priss Factor
    @Bobby

    ROTFL

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Miss+Guatemala&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI9IS7w6LVxwIVAkw-Ch0JqwS2&biw=1280&bih=599

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Brutusale

    Guat the f***…?

  51. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jefferson


    Southfield, Michigan is a whopping 70 percent Black.
     
    35 years ago, my uncle in Michigan told me Southfield was a Jewish town. I laughed and said the only Southfielder I'd known, a shipmate, was black. I guess he was looking at the past, and I at the future.

    By the way, Southfield was (/is?) famous for being the headquarters of one of Canada's top radio stations, CKLW. They were always getting in trouble with the authorities for insufficient "Canadian content". They got some revenge when their cover version of Gordon Sinclair's "The Americans" surpassed the original on the charts. It was certainly Canadian, but not what Trudeaupians had in mind.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “35 years ago, my uncle in Michigan told me Southfield was a Jewish town. I laughed and said the only Southfielder I’d known, a shipmate, was black. I guess he was looking at the past, and I at the future.

    By the way, Southfield was (/is?) famous for being the headquarters of one of Canada’s top radio stations, CKLW. They were always getting in trouble with the authorities for insufficient “Canadian content”. They got some revenge when their cover version of Gordon Sinclair’s “The Americans” surpassed the original on the charts. It was certainly Canadian, but not what Trudeaupians had in mind.”

    I wonder what most White Canadians opinion of Black Michigan residents is. Meaning what most of them privately think.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Jefferson


    I wonder what most White Canadians opinion of Black Michigan residents is. Meaning what most of them privately think.
     
    Canucks have the Hollywood version of negroes in their heads. In Canada, it's mostly true. Because of smaller numbers and without the slavery history egging on the negro hatred for whites, they've generally been better behaved than in America. I recall one incident in Toronto with some American buddies where I knowingly pissed off a carload of young thuggish negroes. My buddies thought we were going to be victims of a drive-by shooting. Having much more experience in Canada I knew otherwise. Indeed, they pulled up and shouted out the window, "We are going to report you to the police". Yeah, we weren't in Detroit. But that Canadian view is gradually changing as more negroes arrive from Jamaica and Haiti (especially in Quebec). There are now negro ghettoes approaching those in say Atlanta's better ghetto neighborhoods.

    As for Southfield, it is another white flight story. Whites moved from the city to escape negroes. Then wealthier negroes followed to escape poorer negroes. Now Southfield is almost entirely negro and the wealthier negroes are moving out. Nobody wants to live with negroes, especially affluent negroes who can afford to escape their cousins.
  52. @Bobby
    Had a college girlfriend go on a study abroad in Guatemala for 6 weeks. Her dad and I said she was crazy, but she said she'd get a bunch of credits and they'd be in the best part of Guatemala City, so whatever. She came back shocked: "Half of the people we hung out with were whiter than you!" (I'm tan for a white guy; 1/16 Cherokee, I swear. And she grew up in a naive bubble and had no idea about the Latin American hierarchy.) She said one night the Guatemalan elite kids told the TX A&M kids, basically, "You guys are stupid. We send you the worst we have, and you take them and pay for them!" This was in 2002 I think.

    Couple of years later I'm friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala, and a former Miss Guatemala (he came back with the videos after one Christmas Break to prove it; yes she was hot, but I forget the last name.) After we became better friends I asked him about this. He laughed and said, "Yeah everybody there laughs about that."

    I'm going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times. The racism BS is all a scam from the Latin elite that the Left and cuckservative Right eats up with pleasure.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Priss Factor, @Jefferson, @Stan d Mute

    “Couple of years later I’m friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala,”

    I live in California which has a large Guatemalan population and I have literally seen ZERO Guatemalans who are as blue eyed and blonde as Katie Couric.

    The “Whitest” Guatemalans I have seen looked like Jennifer Lopez and Roselyn Sanchez at best. Guatemala is so Amerindian that by Guatemalan standards Jennifer Lopez might as well be a Swede.

    • Replies: @Bobby
    @Jefferson

    I should have clarified: by Katie Couric I meant that she read the daily national news on TV. And I'm not talking about immigrants that come here. I'm talking about the generational elite Spanish blood that stays there. My friend went back... to continue to be rich I'd assume.

    Also, like I said, I'm tan for a white guy because of some native blood. My 1/8 dad looks damn near native, but we have never considered ourselves anything but white people. So I may have a bit more of a range of white.

    , @PistolPete
    @Jefferson

    I had a car mechanic in West Texas who was Guatemalan with blue eyes and (very)dirty blonde hair, with the complexion of Jorge Ramos. Looked quite non Indian, but he was like 4'11 so that gave it away at first glance.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @IBC
    @Jefferson


    Guatemala is so Amerindian that by Guatemalan standards Jennifer Lopez might as well be a Swede.
     
    True, but they do have some Scandinavians. One of their past presidents/dictators was half Norwegian:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjell_Eugenio_Laugerud_Garc%C3%ADa

  53. @G Pinfold
    All those prodigies... Yes. There are a few at Real Madrid, Juventus, Chelsea, etc.

    But let's all pretend a guy who runs a dodgy Abyssinian Restaurant is an 'entrepreneur'; someone who slides through Humanities at a toney university is a 'leading intellectual'; a STEM graduate (or a medico) is a 'gifted humanitarian'; and a City youth in pin-stripes is a 'financial genius'.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Kweku Adoboli was a prodigy of sorts.

    • Agree: Reg Cæsar
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Dave Pinsen

    You can make sport of Mr. Adoboli as much as you want, after all, "h8ters gotta h8t (TM)", but I'll have you know I owe some of my fortune to him.
    That gentleman contacted me in a personal e-mail asking my help in discreetly re-investing some funds for his company in the US. I provided him with my bank account numbers and access codes and he wired the sum of 2Billion (2.000.000) pounds sterling to my account. I thereupon kept 15% (fifteen per cent) as a service fee and transferred the remainder to another account in his name where it awaits his release from unjust incarceration.
    That more than doubled the money I had made from Regimental Sgt. Major General Owen of US Army SEAL who I helped with transferring gold bullion from Saddam Hussein's bank after the liberation of Baghdad.
    (BTW, that last one was from an actual spam e-mail I got at work during Operation Iraqi Freedom or whatever they called it. )

  54. @Busby
    "The information age makes it very easy for a small town kid to find an apartment, a job, and a social network in the big cities and growth areas. "

    Because nobody ever thought of that before. That's why there has been a shortage of waiters and other skilled craftsmen in New York City since the turn of the century. (The fin de siècle turn of the century, the one before the war our grandfathers fought in.) Like that Tin Pan Alley song, "How You Gonna Keep 'Em Down on the Farm After They've Seen Borough Park".

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Yeah, I don’t think social media and electronic media in general have had that much additional impact in driving migration. They’ve probably had more of an impact in hindering assimilation. Instead of learning English you can Skype with friends and relatives in the old country, watch satellite TV in your own language, etc.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Dave Pinsen

    And social media raises the profile of many trivial events to notoriety as they are no longer local stories of interest. Therefore, those that receive national coverage of the 24/7 variety cycle through the media with increasing frequency serve to increases reinforcement of The Narrative, while stories that contradict The Narrative, and are ignored, take on the character of "the dog that didn't bark."

    It now takes near-Sherlock Holmes' levels of observation to notice the truth, and the lies, and to know the difference.

  55. In light of the steatopygia seen in many of the Rump of the Saints bound for France, perhaps the portal they’re using is Fessebook.

  56. @JohnnyWalker123
    The women look pretty good too in Mexico City.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyf40qvGUDg

    Replies: @Uncle Peregrine, @Jefferson

    “The women look pretty good too in Mexico City.”

    The few blondes you see in that upscale night club in Mexico City are all women. There were ZERO blond haired men in that upscale Mexico City nightclub.

    Mexico is like Iran, women have a monopoly on blondness because the men in these two countries do not like to dye their hair blond, only the women like to dye their hair blonde. That is why “blonde” women in Iran and Mexico pretty much all have dark brown haired/black haired husbands/boyfriends.

    A romantic couple where both the woman and the man are blond would stick out like a sore thumb in Mexico. “Blonde” women in Mexico pretty much all end up with guys that are darker than them. The “blonde” women in Mexico all end up with guys who look like Alberto Del Rio from the WWE and Antonio Banderas. “Blonde” women in Mexico all end up with Non Nordic guys.

    Unlike in the U.S where it is still extremely common for blonde haired women to end up with blond haired guys who look like Aaron Carter from The Backstreet Boys and Ryan Gosling.

    I am not surprised there is a lack of blond haired men in Mexico for “blonde” haired women to date/marry, since the vast majority of Caucasoid immigration to Mexico was from Spain and The Middle East. Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Jefferson


    Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.
     
    Not large like the Scandinavians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern michigan, but Latin America did see a fair number of Irish immigrants.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jefferson

    , @IBC
    @Jefferson

    And yet actors like Brad Pitt, are still pretty popular there. At least that's the impression I got when I visited. There seem to be plenty of dark-haired Mexican women who go for light-haired men. Since the supply is naturally limited, perhaps lonely Mexican men should start hitting "the bottle."

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Kyle McKenna
    @Jefferson

    Blond hair is a (big) plus for women almost everywhere on earth. Not so for men, as in many places it's seen as less masculine. If I had blond hair I'd probably dye it brown.

    Replies: @Clyde

  57. @Jefferson
    Someone posted fliers in some people's mailboxes in Southfield, Michigan saying lets vote the Blacks out of Southfield this November.

    It was most likely a hoax "hate crime" committed by a Black person. Southfield, Michigan is a whopping 70 percent Black. So it is not exactly a Whitopia full of racist Republicans and Rednecks.
    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/11191781-story

    Since the general population is 70 percent Black, Southfield's K-12 public schools are probably anywhere from 95 percent Black to 99 percent Black.

    In majority Chocolate cities, the K-12 public school population tend to be even more Chocolate than the adult population.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Clyde

    In majority Chocolate cities, the K-12 public school population tend to be even more Chocolate than the adult population.

    Hmmm, chocolate cities…

  58. @Jefferson
    @Bobby

    "Couple of years later I’m friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala,"

    I live in California which has a large Guatemalan population and I have literally seen ZERO Guatemalans who are as blue eyed and blonde as Katie Couric.

    The "Whitest" Guatemalans I have seen looked like Jennifer Lopez and Roselyn Sanchez at best. Guatemala is so Amerindian that by Guatemalan standards Jennifer Lopez might as well be a Swede.

    Replies: @Bobby, @PistolPete, @IBC

    I should have clarified: by Katie Couric I meant that she read the daily national news on TV. And I’m not talking about immigrants that come here. I’m talking about the generational elite Spanish blood that stays there. My friend went back… to continue to be rich I’d assume.

    Also, like I said, I’m tan for a white guy because of some native blood. My 1/8 dad looks damn near native, but we have never considered ourselves anything but white people. So I may have a bit more of a range of white.

  59. @Anon 2
    @Lot

    Mexico has about the same GDP per capita (PPP)
    as Bulgaria, the poorest country in the EU:

    Mexico $18,370
    Bulgaria $17,869

    but is much poorer than an Eastern European country like Russia (about $23,000)
    except for the poorest white country in the world - Ukraine ($7,400).

    On the other hand, Central European countries like the Czech Republic and Poland
    are much richer:

    Czech R. $30,895
    Poland $26,210

    Replies: @Lot, @PistolPete

    Americans are unfamiliar with how South America works, or what it is like.

    Mexico per capita GDP gets massively skewed downwards because of extremely backward, non-white, rural areas. I don´t have authority on Mexico but here in Brazil per capita GDP is lowered because of such large non-white populations. I know that sounds obvious, but let me explain.

    There are whole regions of Brazil, primarily in the Northeast(no whites + arid desert) that have no economy to speak of, in the sense a European or an Americans would understand it. Literally little villages of self sustaining farmers or migrant workers who cut sugar cane for the season and come back home with a little bartering cash.

    I imagine this is what happens in Mexico too.

    Mexico´s, GDP looks weak compared to Eastern Europe because it gets averaged down.When in reality a white in Mexico City is better off than some Moldovan peasant. And if you exclude crime affecting quality of life, whites in Mexico are probably better off than most of Europe. As Sailer points out, America is wealthy for its large empty land filled with plenty and so is South America (relatively speaking). Just because Mexico´s GDP is low doesn´t mean it tells the whole story. If they broke it down to GDP per race it would probably show that.

    • Replies: @dsgntd_plyr
    @PistolPete

    Check out the Human Development scores for Brazil's South Region. First world level. It's also 78.65% White (Santa Catarina state is 87% White). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Region,_Brazil

    A few years ago PUA/Men's Rights activist Roosh V came back from an extended South America trip and wrote he only needed $1000/month to mimic a middle-class DC lifestyle.

  60. @Jefferson
    @Bobby

    "Couple of years later I’m friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala,"

    I live in California which has a large Guatemalan population and I have literally seen ZERO Guatemalans who are as blue eyed and blonde as Katie Couric.

    The "Whitest" Guatemalans I have seen looked like Jennifer Lopez and Roselyn Sanchez at best. Guatemala is so Amerindian that by Guatemalan standards Jennifer Lopez might as well be a Swede.

    Replies: @Bobby, @PistolPete, @IBC

    I had a car mechanic in West Texas who was Guatemalan with blue eyes and (very)dirty blonde hair, with the complexion of Jorge Ramos. Looked quite non Indian, but he was like 4’11 so that gave it away at first glance.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @PistolPete

    "I had a car mechanic in West Texas who was Guatemalan with blue eyes and (very)dirty blonde hair, with the complexion of Jorge Ramos. Looked quite non Indian, but he was like 4’11 so that gave it away at first glance."

    Blue eyes is so rare in Guatemala that not even the majority of the wealthy 1 percent there have blue eyes, let alone the Guatemalan masses.

    The number 1 richest Guatemalan man in the world Mario Lopez Estrada has brown eyes.
    http://assets.bwbx.io/images/idZ5xRq3gs4Q/v1/1200x-1.jpg

    The number 1 richest Mexican in the world Carlos Slim also has brown eyes.
    http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.556974.1383878190!/image/1547331146.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/1547331146.jpg

    Compare that to the world's richest American Bill Gates who has blue eyes. The wealthy 1 percent in the U.S on average tend to be a lot more blue eyed than the wealthy 1 percent in Latin America.

    Replies: @PistolPete

  61. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    To paraphrase Dougherty, ‘why would voters want to vote for a political party that actively seeks to displace them?’.

    Absolute brilliant, penetrating insight. Probably the best, wisest, most succinct political comment I’ve read all year – and then some.
    Sometimes stating the bleeding obvious is like a lightening bolt straight out of the blue. It can’t be beaten. It can’t be topped.

    So what the Hell were the demented minds of New Labour thinking back in those crazy millennial days?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    To paraphrase Dougherty, ‘why would voters want to vote for a political party that actively seeks to displace them?’.

     

    For the benefits.

    The Displacement Party has no problem outpandering their rivals, because they're not bound by the truth.
  62. @Anonymous
    The skunk Drudge had a headline up today: 223 Illegals Deported From SoCal.

    This is the same crap he pulled during the flood 2000-2010.

    We've got 30 million illegals who have jumped the border. But Drudge is here to make you think "stuff is getting done" ...

    Drudge = Deception

    Replies: @Ed, @Brutusale

    If it wasn’t for Drudge we’d already have an amnesty and millions more massed at the Mexican border.

    This story is news worthy because interior enforcement has all but ceased under Obama.

  63. @Priss Factor
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/more-10-000-icelanders-ready-welcome-syrians-164942463.html#gkng8hK

    Replies: @Ed, @Undocumented Shopper

    This is why I say they should let them
    come. To many in Europe being seen as tolerant among their peers is far more important than leaving the country they inherited to their kids.

    Let Iceland turn into Syria North. Let Italy turn into Eritrea by the Mediterranean. The people want it, give it to them.

    • Replies: @Undocumented Shopper
    @Ed

    Tests should be carried out on volunteers or lab rats. And if Icelanders want to be lab rats, why not? Better to destroy a small country, which can serve as a warning to bigger ones.

    , @Anonymous
    @Ed

    Unfortunately this is a lesson that every nation must learn for itself. Nations without racial problems always assume that other nations have them because they're "racist". They have to learn the hard way that racism is the consequence of racial problems not the cause of them.

  64. @Lot
    Mexico City is nice if you can afford it. And it isn't expensive, with decent wages for skilled workers and professionals. But not for unskilled ex-peasant labor. Like Southern California, its former large industrial base is being pushed out by rising costs and environmental regulations in favor of government, non-profit and the service economy.

    A fair amount of the central areas look like Europe and distant suburbs look American.

    Not Paris:
    http://www.arca-lab.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/colonia-roma.jpg

    Not Plano:
    http://mexicanatheart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/mexicocitysign.jpg

    The subway system is better than any in the United States:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Mexico_City_Metro_System_Diagram_%282013-03-01%29.png

    I posted a comment a few weeks ago showing Mexico as a whole is richer than much of Eastern Europe, and if you just include the Mexico City and Monterrey areas it is richer than nearly all of eastern europe and comparable to poorer parts of the American South.

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Anon 2, @(((Owen))), @Jefferson, @Thea

    But there is virtually no civil society in Mexico. you could raise your kids behind high proprietary walls with security detail. As will happen here soon.

  65. Something tells me Africa’s best & brightest < europe's weakest.

    Trump should also mention the benefits of not importing another Ebola man or Chechen Joker to his repetoire

  66. @bomag
    surplus peasants from the countryside moved to the United States instead of Mexico City, relieving pressure on Mexico City elites and their lifestyles.

    I wonder if we'll get a thank-you card?

    It's been mentioned a few times; but not enough; that much of the Mexican migration was planned and coordinated from a central authority. Mexicans would show up in my town with a card listing state and federal programs they could apply for; programs almost none of the locals knew about.

    Sometime back in the comments someone mentioned the consular VISA scam.

    Reminds me of WWII, when Germany started their invasion of Norway by sending the soldiers there on vacation.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    And Scott Walker has arranged with Mexico City to open two Mexican consulates in Wisconsin to insure that Mexican mojados are put on the government teat as soon as possible.

  67. Apparently the 1st generation of MENA immigrants to Europe were pretty hard workers by all accounts, so is there a gnetic return to the mean occuring?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @rvg

    Europeans were generally much more hard working just a few generations ago as well. Probably has more to do with prosperity and the welfare state.

  68. @Lot
    @Anon 2


    except for the poorest white country in the world – Ukraine ($7,400).
     
    Moldova is poorer. Using a liberal definition of white, so is Uzbekistan, Syria, and Afghanistan.

    I've met several lovely young Ukrainian refugees in random places the past year in San Diego, I don't remember encountering any before then. One was a store clerk, another a community college student.

    Replies: @Anon 2

    Of course, I meant a normal-sized country. True, Moldova is a bit poorer
    than Ukraine but with a population of just under 3 million it barely
    qualifies as a country.

    Ukraine’s population (currently about 43 million) is dropping precipitously.
    At least 1.5 million Ukrainian refugees are now in Russia, and about
    400,000 Ukrainians escaped to Poland, although the latter are typically
    on short-term work permits (which can be extended indefinitely, it
    seems) or college-age students.

    NY Times had an article several weeks ago that said that crossing the
    border from Poland into Ukraine is like going back in time from the
    21st century into the 19th century. Much of Ukraine and Russia is in
    a severe state of disrepair. This is what Communism did to that whol
    area

  69. @Dave Pinsen
    @G Pinfold

    Kweku Adoboli was a prodigy of sorts.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    You can make sport of Mr. Adoboli as much as you want, after all, “h8ters gotta h8t (TM)”, but I’ll have you know I owe some of my fortune to him.
    That gentleman contacted me in a personal e-mail asking my help in discreetly re-investing some funds for his company in the US. I provided him with my bank account numbers and access codes and he wired the sum of 2Billion (2.000.000) pounds sterling to my account. I thereupon kept 15% (fifteen per cent) as a service fee and transferred the remainder to another account in his name where it awaits his release from unjust incarceration.
    That more than doubled the money I had made from Regimental Sgt. Major General Owen of US Army SEAL who I helped with transferring gold bullion from Saddam Hussein’s bank after the liberation of Baghdad.
    (BTW, that last one was from an actual spam e-mail I got at work during Operation Iraqi Freedom or whatever they called it. )

  70. @Priss Factor
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/more-10-000-icelanders-ready-welcome-syrians-164942463.html#gkng8hK

    Replies: @Ed, @Undocumented Shopper

    Well, Nordics can also be dumb. It makes perfect sense that Iceland is the country where all banks went bankrupt.

  71. @Ed
    @Priss Factor

    This is why I say they should let them
    come. To many in Europe being seen as tolerant among their peers is far more important than leaving the country they inherited to their kids.

    Let Iceland turn into Syria North. Let Italy turn into Eritrea by the Mediterranean. The people want it, give it to them.

    Replies: @Undocumented Shopper, @Anonymous

    Tests should be carried out on volunteers or lab rats. And if Icelanders want to be lab rats, why not? Better to destroy a small country, which can serve as a warning to bigger ones.

  72. iSteveFan says:

    But the truth is that, along with some problems, the Global South (particularly Africa) is sending its prodigies abroad, many of them never to return.

    You would think the SJW crowd would view this as an issue on par with other forms colonialism such as resource extraction. In this case rich white nations are apparently extracting the top human resources from third world nations. The horror, I tell you. It must stop.

  73. Bobby,

    You are quite right about the physical appearance of much of the Guatemalan upper class. Jefferson’s observations apply to the lower half of society but they form the overwhelming majority of the Guatemalans in the US.

    In Guatemala City in 1983, I met one Harris Whitbeck, long resident in Guatemala but a former US Marine. His daughter Suzanne had won the Miss Guatemala title the year before. Here is a photo from the time:

    https://m.facebook.com/271459212884473/photos/a.271476462882748.70872.271459212884473/851277238235998/

    It’s not a great photo but she is definitely blonde and very white.

    She has since married and moved to Florida. Here is a recent newspaper photo of her:

    http://www.tcpalm.com/ugc/palm-beach-county/jupiter-resident-suzanne-cordero-named-to-el-sol-b

    Just as white and very good looking. Mind you, she is now in her 50s.

    And her brother, Harris Whitbeck, junior, is CNN’s Latin America correspondent, based in Mexico City:

    http://edition.cnn.com/espanol/presentadores/whitbeck.harris.html

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @PV van der Byl

    "You are quite right about the physical appearance of much of the Guatemalan upper class. Jefferson’s observations apply to the lower half of society but they form the overwhelming majority of the Guatemalans in the US."

    They are also the overwhelming majority of Guatemalans in Guatemala. If Guatemala was a majority White country they would not have a lower human development index than The Philippines.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#Very_high_human_development

    Guatemala is so dirt poor that they make Brazil look like a first world country in comparison.

  74. @Bobby
    Had a college girlfriend go on a study abroad in Guatemala for 6 weeks. Her dad and I said she was crazy, but she said she'd get a bunch of credits and they'd be in the best part of Guatemala City, so whatever. She came back shocked: "Half of the people we hung out with were whiter than you!" (I'm tan for a white guy; 1/16 Cherokee, I swear. And she grew up in a naive bubble and had no idea about the Latin American hierarchy.) She said one night the Guatemalan elite kids told the TX A&M kids, basically, "You guys are stupid. We send you the worst we have, and you take them and pay for them!" This was in 2002 I think.

    Couple of years later I'm friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala, and a former Miss Guatemala (he came back with the videos after one Christmas Break to prove it; yes she was hot, but I forget the last name.) After we became better friends I asked him about this. He laughed and said, "Yeah everybody there laughs about that."

    I'm going to take a wild guess and say Trump has heard all of these things from people like that many times. The racism BS is all a scam from the Latin elite that the Left and cuckservative Right eats up with pleasure.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Priss Factor, @Jefferson, @Stan d Mute

    The racism BS is all a scam from the Latin elite that the Left and cuckservative Right eats up with pleasure.

    Part of it is that so incredibly few Americans have ever traveled abroad, even to Mexico or Canada, and even among those who have there is the American educational system’s trained opposition to *noticing*. So when you are in one of the best (non-tourist) restaurants in Mexico City or Panama City, you don’t really register that your fellow patrons are all the same and wholly unlike the Indio in the back of the kitchen washing dishes. And those of us who do *notice* are fully programmed with the WASP opposition to impolite commentary.

  75. @Priss Factor
    @Bobby

    ROTFL

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Miss+Guatemala&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI9IS7w6LVxwIVAkw-Ch0JqwS2&biw=1280&bih=599

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Brutusale

    I would imagine that most of these girls are about as Guatemalan as Gisele Bundchen is Brazilian.

    Or the latest Miss Universe Japan is Japanese!

    http://news.yahoo.com/black-miss-japan-fights-race-revolution-041830696.html

    • Replies: @5371
    @Brutusale

    There's a boy called Abdul Hakim Sani Brown, a half-Ghanaian Japanese, who sprinted very fast for his age at the recent IAAF world championships. And since he was born in Japan, not Africa, he undoubtedly is really just 16 years old.

  76. @Jefferson
    @Reg Cæsar

    "35 years ago, my uncle in Michigan told me Southfield was a Jewish town. I laughed and said the only Southfielder I’d known, a shipmate, was black. I guess he was looking at the past, and I at the future.

    By the way, Southfield was (/is?) famous for being the headquarters of one of Canada’s top radio stations, CKLW. They were always getting in trouble with the authorities for insufficient “Canadian content”. They got some revenge when their cover version of Gordon Sinclair’s “The Americans” surpassed the original on the charts. It was certainly Canadian, but not what Trudeaupians had in mind."

    I wonder what most White Canadians opinion of Black Michigan residents is. Meaning what most of them privately think.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    I wonder what most White Canadians opinion of Black Michigan residents is. Meaning what most of them privately think.

    Canucks have the Hollywood version of negroes in their heads. In Canada, it’s mostly true. Because of smaller numbers and without the slavery history egging on the negro hatred for whites, they’ve generally been better behaved than in America. I recall one incident in Toronto with some American buddies where I knowingly pissed off a carload of young thuggish negroes. My buddies thought we were going to be victims of a drive-by shooting. Having much more experience in Canada I knew otherwise. Indeed, they pulled up and shouted out the window, “We are going to report you to the police”. Yeah, we weren’t in Detroit. But that Canadian view is gradually changing as more negroes arrive from Jamaica and Haiti (especially in Quebec). There are now negro ghettoes approaching those in say Atlanta’s better ghetto neighborhoods.

    As for Southfield, it is another white flight story. Whites moved from the city to escape negroes. Then wealthier negroes followed to escape poorer negroes. Now Southfield is almost entirely negro and the wealthier negroes are moving out. Nobody wants to live with negroes, especially affluent negroes who can afford to escape their cousins.

  77. @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "The women look pretty good too in Mexico City."

    The few blondes you see in that upscale night club in Mexico City are all women. There were ZERO blond haired men in that upscale Mexico City nightclub.

    Mexico is like Iran, women have a monopoly on blondness because the men in these two countries do not like to dye their hair blond, only the women like to dye their hair blonde. That is why "blonde" women in Iran and Mexico pretty much all have dark brown haired/black haired husbands/boyfriends.

    A romantic couple where both the woman and the man are blond would stick out like a sore thumb in Mexico. "Blonde" women in Mexico pretty much all end up with guys that are darker than them. The "blonde" women in Mexico all end up with guys who look like Alberto Del Rio from the WWE and Antonio Banderas. "Blonde" women in Mexico all end up with Non Nordic guys.

    Unlike in the U.S where it is still extremely common for blonde haired women to end up with blond haired guys who look like Aaron Carter from The Backstreet Boys and Ryan Gosling.

    I am not surprised there is a lack of blond haired men in Mexico for "blonde" haired women to date/marry, since the vast majority of Caucasoid immigration to Mexico was from Spain and The Middle East. Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @IBC, @Kyle McKenna

    Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.

    Not large like the Scandinavians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern michigan, but Latin America did see a fair number of Irish immigrants.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Stan d Mute

    The highest test score area in Mexico in the PISA tests, Aguas Caliente, is a 6,000 foot plateau where the European interloper emperor Maximilian's troops who decided to stay in Mexico were resettled. There are no tourist attractions there, but Nissan is building a second auto factory there.

    , @Jefferson
    @Stan d Mute

    "Not large like the Scandinavians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern michigan, but Latin America did see a fair number of Irish immigrants."

    Well below 1 percent of Latin America's population have any Irish ancestry in them at all. There are way more Jews in the U.S than there are Irish people in Latin America.

    Only around 1 million five hundred thousand people in Latin America have any Irish blood pumping through their hearts, in a region that has over 588 million people.

    People of full/partial Irish ancestry in Latin America is smaller than the population of West Virginia.

  78. @Jefferson
    @Bobby

    "Couple of years later I’m friends with this Guatemalan at A&M (also whiter than me). Turns out his mom was like the Katie Couric of Guatemala,"

    I live in California which has a large Guatemalan population and I have literally seen ZERO Guatemalans who are as blue eyed and blonde as Katie Couric.

    The "Whitest" Guatemalans I have seen looked like Jennifer Lopez and Roselyn Sanchez at best. Guatemala is so Amerindian that by Guatemalan standards Jennifer Lopez might as well be a Swede.

    Replies: @Bobby, @PistolPete, @IBC

    Guatemala is so Amerindian that by Guatemalan standards Jennifer Lopez might as well be a Swede.

    True, but they do have some Scandinavians. One of their past presidents/dictators was half Norwegian:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjell_Eugenio_Laugerud_Garc%C3%ADa

  79. @PistolPete
    @Anon 2

    Americans are unfamiliar with how South America works, or what it is like.

    Mexico per capita GDP gets massively skewed downwards because of extremely backward, non-white, rural areas. I don´t have authority on Mexico but here in Brazil per capita GDP is lowered because of such large non-white populations. I know that sounds obvious, but let me explain.

    There are whole regions of Brazil, primarily in the Northeast(no whites + arid desert) that have no economy to speak of, in the sense a European or an Americans would understand it. Literally little villages of self sustaining farmers or migrant workers who cut sugar cane for the season and come back home with a little bartering cash.

    I imagine this is what happens in Mexico too.

    Mexico´s, GDP looks weak compared to Eastern Europe because it gets averaged down.When in reality a white in Mexico City is better off than some Moldovan peasant. And if you exclude crime affecting quality of life, whites in Mexico are probably better off than most of Europe. As Sailer points out, America is wealthy for its large empty land filled with plenty and so is South America (relatively speaking). Just because Mexico´s GDP is low doesn´t mean it tells the whole story. If they broke it down to GDP per race it would probably show that.

    Replies: @dsgntd_plyr

    Check out the Human Development scores for Brazil’s South Region. First world level. It’s also 78.65% White (Santa Catarina state is 87% White). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Region,_Brazil

    A few years ago PUA/Men’s Rights activist Roosh V came back from an extended South America trip and wrote he only needed $1000/month to mimic a middle-class DC lifestyle.

  80. @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "The women look pretty good too in Mexico City."

    The few blondes you see in that upscale night club in Mexico City are all women. There were ZERO blond haired men in that upscale Mexico City nightclub.

    Mexico is like Iran, women have a monopoly on blondness because the men in these two countries do not like to dye their hair blond, only the women like to dye their hair blonde. That is why "blonde" women in Iran and Mexico pretty much all have dark brown haired/black haired husbands/boyfriends.

    A romantic couple where both the woman and the man are blond would stick out like a sore thumb in Mexico. "Blonde" women in Mexico pretty much all end up with guys that are darker than them. The "blonde" women in Mexico all end up with guys who look like Alberto Del Rio from the WWE and Antonio Banderas. "Blonde" women in Mexico all end up with Non Nordic guys.

    Unlike in the U.S where it is still extremely common for blonde haired women to end up with blond haired guys who look like Aaron Carter from The Backstreet Boys and Ryan Gosling.

    I am not surprised there is a lack of blond haired men in Mexico for "blonde" haired women to date/marry, since the vast majority of Caucasoid immigration to Mexico was from Spain and The Middle East. Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @IBC, @Kyle McKenna

    And yet actors like Brad Pitt, are still pretty popular there. At least that’s the impression I got when I visited. There seem to be plenty of dark-haired Mexican women who go for light-haired men. Since the supply is naturally limited, perhaps lonely Mexican men should start hitting “the bottle.”

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @IBC

    "And yet actors like Brad Pitt, are still pretty popular there. At least that’s the impression I got when I visited."

    Brad Pitt is popular all over the world, even in blondtopia countries like Denmark. There is a reason he is considered A-List.

  81. “the truth is that, along with some problems, the Global South (particularly Africa) is sending its prodigies abroad, many of them never to return.”

    A world wide phenomenon now and for the foreseeable future. Immigration of itself per se not so bad but the numbers and one direction flow and replacing an aging population with an alien group in significant numbers troubling. Makes for too much possible conflict. Conflict already occurring in many places.

  82. “But there is virtually no civil society in Mexico. you could raise your kids behind high proprietary walls with security detail. As will happen here soon.”

    It already is.

    And for some time. Tucson AZ the gringo sub divisions of retired gringo are surrounded by eight foot high cinder block walls solid. And the schools and other public institutions surrounded by even higher wrought iron fences with the very tops sharp and turned outward to prevent fence climbers from getting over.

    Bienvenidos Estatdos Unidos gringo.

  83. “I had a car mechanic in West Texas who was Guatemalan with blue eyes and (very)dirty blonde hair, with the complexion of Jorge Ramos. Looked quite non Indian, but he was like 4’11 so that gave it away at first glance.”

    Pedro Alvarado. Was with Cortez and the second in command as I remember. Called the Sun God by the Aztecs.

  84. “Guatemala is so Amerindian that by Guatemalan standards Jennifer Lopez might as well be a Swede”

    All those Guatemalan coming here most [?] do not even speak any Spanish or a trifling if that. Most [?] speak their native American Indian language.

  85. “…But the truth is that, along with some problems, the Global South (particularly Africa) is sending its prodigies abroad . . .”

    Thereby further depleting an already undersized smart fraction, consigning those left behind to eternal poverty and disorder. When are we in the West going to address the adverse consequences of immigration on the development of the poor countries from which most immigrants come? Haiti is a textbook example. There is scarcely a college graduate left in the country, and certainly far fewer than live here in the U.S. Haven’t seen the actual figures. Does anyone have them?

  86. @Priss Factor
    @Chrisnonymous

    "Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city."

    Ever hear of proximity to nature, clean air, starry skies, hiking trails, etc?

    Lots of reason not to live in the big city.

    Now, with so much stuff accessible via the net, there is less need to live in the city, esp as so many bookstores and record shops have closed down.

    There are restaurants but I don't need over-priced raw fish.

    Replies: @Luke Lea, @Spike Gomes, @Chrisnonymous

    “Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city.”

    Ever hear of proximity to nature, clean air, starry skies, hiking trails, etc?

    Lots of reason not to live in the big city.

    Now, with so much stuff accessible via the net, there is less need to live in the city, esp as so many bookstores and record shops have closed down.

    You might like this: http://goo.gl/C4k2H7

  87. The Pet Shop Boys had a song about this:

  88. Why immigration may be the defining issue of the 21st century.

    I never thought about it this way but he has something there. Trump is riding high due to repressed anti-illegal alien sentiments. Europe has an ongoing Camp_of_The_Saints situation going on. The Sweden Democrats anti-immigration party is getting more and more traction. Asylum centers in Germany are getting burned down with lots of anti-immigrant demonstrations.

    Really, why does any advanced nation need minimally educated 3rd world immigrants? Especially with the rise of the robotic job stealers. We know we get immigration, both legal-illegal, due to entrenched business interests (real estate and agriculture) and ethnic pressure groups like La Raza

  89. @Chrisnonymous
    In Mongolia, 2/3 of the population live in one city. In Japan, some people want to move the capital in part because there are still people moving to Tokyo from the countryside. Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city. Telecommuting is a SWPL conceit.

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @SPMoore8, @Ozymandias

    I know half a dozen people who work from home, 2-3 days a week. Most of them are women, who are doing it because of children, but not all. Distances covered are as few as a couple of miles and as many as 80-90 miles. Basically any work involving spreadsheets or writing or typing or book keeping can be done remotely.

    Why work remotely? Well, it’s a way to make a living and not have to live in cities. A lot of people don’t like the crowdedness, noise, and general frenetic activity of cities. They also don’t want to raise their children in areas with high crime, drugs, and motorists who are always in a big hurry.

    I wouldn’t say that it is “common”, but it’s not “uncommon” either.

  90. @Brutusale
    @Priss Factor

    I would imagine that most of these girls are about as Guatemalan as Gisele Bundchen is Brazilian.

    Or the latest Miss Universe Japan is Japanese!

    http://news.yahoo.com/black-miss-japan-fights-race-revolution-041830696.html

    Replies: @5371

    There’s a boy called Abdul Hakim Sani Brown, a half-Ghanaian Japanese, who sprinted very fast for his age at the recent IAAF world championships. And since he was born in Japan, not Africa, he undoubtedly is really just 16 years old.

  91. @Priss Factor
    @Chrisnonymous

    "Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city."

    Ever hear of proximity to nature, clean air, starry skies, hiking trails, etc?

    Lots of reason not to live in the big city.

    Now, with so much stuff accessible via the net, there is less need to live in the city, esp as so many bookstores and record shops have closed down.

    There are restaurants but I don't need over-priced raw fish.

    Replies: @Luke Lea, @Spike Gomes, @Chrisnonymous

    Honestly, the only ethnic groups who like those things are Northern Europeans and Northern Native Americans. For most other groups, wild nature is either something that’s long been gone in their civilizational memory (Southern Europeans and East Asians) or a place you’re glad to be away from because it’s a deadly nasty sweltering place filled with poisonous insects and hungry animals (most people with descent from tropical areas).

  92. @rvg
    Apparently the 1st generation of MENA immigrants to Europe were pretty hard workers by all accounts, so is there a gnetic return to the mean occuring?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Europeans were generally much more hard working just a few generations ago as well. Probably has more to do with prosperity and the welfare state.

  93. @Stan d Mute
    @Jefferson


    Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.
     
    Not large like the Scandinavians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern michigan, but Latin America did see a fair number of Irish immigrants.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jefferson

    The highest test score area in Mexico in the PISA tests, Aguas Caliente, is a 6,000 foot plateau where the European interloper emperor Maximilian’s troops who decided to stay in Mexico were resettled. There are no tourist attractions there, but Nissan is building a second auto factory there.

  94. The skunk Drudge had a headline up today: 223 Illegals Deported From SoCal.

    This is the same crap he pulled during the flood 2000-2010.

    We’ve got 30 million illegals who have jumped the border. But Drudge is here to make you think “stuff is getting done” …

    Drudge = Deception

    Drudge is much better for us than he has to be. Also, it’s kind of cute how willing he is to promote a swastika spray-painted on a Jew’s headstone to national news.

    This is why I say they should let them
    come. To many in Europe being seen as tolerant among their peers is far more important than leaving the country they inherited to their kids.

    Let Iceland turn into Syria North. Let Italy turn into Eritrea by the Mediterranean. The people want it, give it to them.

    Let’s hope suicide counselors take the same tack with your loved ones, should they seek help.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Svigor


    Also, it’s kind of cute how willing he is to promote a swastika spray-painted on a Jew’s headstone to national news.
     
    Almost certainly by an SJW, if not a JSJW. What's the Hebrew for taqiyyah?
  95. Luke Lea, do you suppose this is Amazon’s sense of humor?

    From the page you linked:

    Mark Zuckerberg’s Year of Reading Book Selections
    Read along with Facebook’s CEO, Mark Zuckerberg.

  96. Part of it is that so incredibly few Americans have ever traveled abroad, even to Mexico or Canada

    In our defense, we’re a vast country (collection of countries, more like), and Mexico and Canada aren’t very interesting, relatively speaking. If we had something more like France or Italy on our side of the pond, things would be different. The American equivalent of a Frenchman visiting the Czech Republic or a Pole visiting England is an Ohioan visiting Florida or a Californian visiting Vermont.

    So, not really that incredible.

    • Replies: @celt darnell
    @Svigor

    I think you're exaggerating the national diversity of North America

    Mexico and the US have far more politically and culturally in common than do the United Kingdom and France.

    Canada and the US are about as different as the Ireland and the UK.

    That Poland and the UK are only as different as Californian and Vermont is ludicrous. Start with the language differences and work your way down.

    Hell, Wales and England are more culturally different than California and Vermont.

    Another explanation please.

    , @Busby
    @Svigor

    Yes. People often forget how large the U.S. is compared to European countries. Most of us would think nothing of driving the family from New York to Disney World in Orlando. That's like driving from Paris to Moscow.

  97. @Dave Pinsen
    @Busby

    Yeah, I don't think social media and electronic media in general have had that much additional impact in driving migration. They've probably had more of an impact in hindering assimilation. Instead of learning English you can Skype with friends and relatives in the old country, watch satellite TV in your own language, etc.

    Replies: @Forbes

    And social media raises the profile of many trivial events to notoriety as they are no longer local stories of interest. Therefore, those that receive national coverage of the 24/7 variety cycle through the media with increasing frequency serve to increases reinforcement of The Narrative, while stories that contradict The Narrative, and are ignored, take on the character of “the dog that didn’t bark.”

    It now takes near-Sherlock Holmes’ levels of observation to notice the truth, and the lies, and to know the difference.

  98. @Stan d Mute
    @Jefferson


    Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.
     
    Not large like the Scandinavians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern michigan, but Latin America did see a fair number of Irish immigrants.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jefferson

    “Not large like the Scandinavians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern michigan, but Latin America did see a fair number of Irish immigrants.”

    Well below 1 percent of Latin America’s population have any Irish ancestry in them at all. There are way more Jews in the U.S than there are Irish people in Latin America.

    Only around 1 million five hundred thousand people in Latin America have any Irish blood pumping through their hearts, in a region that has over 588 million people.

    People of full/partial Irish ancestry in Latin America is smaller than the population of West Virginia.

  99. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    Social media, which largely consists of bragging about how awesome your life is

    I thought it was largely about bragging about how big your lawn is.

  100. @Svigor

    Part of it is that so incredibly few Americans have ever traveled abroad, even to Mexico or Canada
     
    In our defense, we're a vast country (collection of countries, more like), and Mexico and Canada aren't very interesting, relatively speaking. If we had something more like France or Italy on our side of the pond, things would be different. The American equivalent of a Frenchman visiting the Czech Republic or a Pole visiting England is an Ohioan visiting Florida or a Californian visiting Vermont.

    So, not really that incredible.

    Replies: @celt darnell, @Busby

    I think you’re exaggerating the national diversity of North America

    Mexico and the US have far more politically and culturally in common than do the United Kingdom and France.

    Canada and the US are about as different as the Ireland and the UK.

    That Poland and the UK are only as different as Californian and Vermont is ludicrous. Start with the language differences and work your way down.

    Hell, Wales and England are more culturally different than California and Vermont.

    Another explanation please.

  101. @PV van der Byl
    Bobby,

    You are quite right about the physical appearance of much of the Guatemalan upper class. Jefferson’s observations apply to the lower half of society but they form the overwhelming majority of the Guatemalans in the US.

    In Guatemala City in 1983, I met one Harris Whitbeck, long resident in Guatemala but a former US Marine. His daughter Suzanne had won the Miss Guatemala title the year before. Here is a photo from the time:

    https://m.facebook.com/271459212884473/photos/a.271476462882748.70872.271459212884473/851277238235998/

    It’s not a great photo but she is definitely blonde and very white.

    She has since married and moved to Florida. Here is a recent newspaper photo of her:

    http://www.tcpalm.com/ugc/palm-beach-county/jupiter-resident-suzanne-cordero-named-to-el-sol-b

    Just as white and very good looking. Mind you, she is now in her 50s.

    And her brother, Harris Whitbeck, junior, is CNN’s Latin America correspondent, based in Mexico City:

    http://edition.cnn.com/espanol/presentadores/whitbeck.harris.html

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “You are quite right about the physical appearance of much of the Guatemalan upper class. Jefferson’s observations apply to the lower half of society but they form the overwhelming majority of the Guatemalans in the US.”

    They are also the overwhelming majority of Guatemalans in Guatemala. If Guatemala was a majority White country they would not have a lower human development index than The Philippines.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#Very_high_human_development

    Guatemala is so dirt poor that they make Brazil look like a first world country in comparison.

  102. @IBC
    @Jefferson

    And yet actors like Brad Pitt, are still pretty popular there. At least that's the impression I got when I visited. There seem to be plenty of dark-haired Mexican women who go for light-haired men. Since the supply is naturally limited, perhaps lonely Mexican men should start hitting "the bottle."

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “And yet actors like Brad Pitt, are still pretty popular there. At least that’s the impression I got when I visited.”

    Brad Pitt is popular all over the world, even in blondtopia countries like Denmark. There is a reason he is considered A-List.

  103. @PistolPete
    @Jefferson

    I had a car mechanic in West Texas who was Guatemalan with blue eyes and (very)dirty blonde hair, with the complexion of Jorge Ramos. Looked quite non Indian, but he was like 4'11 so that gave it away at first glance.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I had a car mechanic in West Texas who was Guatemalan with blue eyes and (very)dirty blonde hair, with the complexion of Jorge Ramos. Looked quite non Indian, but he was like 4’11 so that gave it away at first glance.”

    Blue eyes is so rare in Guatemala that not even the majority of the wealthy 1 percent there have blue eyes, let alone the Guatemalan masses.

    The number 1 richest Guatemalan man in the world Mario Lopez Estrada has brown eyes.
    The number 1 richest Mexican in the world Carlos Slim also has brown eyes.
    Compare that to the world’s richest American Bill Gates who has blue eyes. The wealthy 1 percent in the U.S on average tend to be a lot more blue eyed than the wealthy 1 percent in Latin America.

    • Replies: @PistolPete
    @Jefferson

    Could be a bastard grandson of one of these guys:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Guatemalan

    Replies: @Jefferson

  104. Migrant who from Africa three months ago to be charged with the murder of an elderly Italian couple:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11834743/Murder-of-elderly-couple-in-Sicily-fuels-Italys-growing-anti-immigrant-sentiment.html

    Something’s got to give, here.

    Don’t be surprised if the next step is a demand for wars in Libya and Syria to stabilize the situation so these refugees can return to where they came from. The Europeans grass roots on up clearly do not want them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @SPMoore8

    Do you really, seriously think that the European political class gives a shit about the voters?

  105. “Migrant who from Africa three months ago to be charged with the murder of an elderly Italian couple:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11834743/Murder-of-elderly-couple-in-Sicily-fuels-Italys-growing-anti-immigrant-sentiment.html&#8221;

    This happened in Sicily. I wonder what Cosa Nostra thinks about the 3rd world masses stepping foot in Sicily.

  106. @Priss Factor
    @Chrisnonymous

    "Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city."

    Ever hear of proximity to nature, clean air, starry skies, hiking trails, etc?

    Lots of reason not to live in the big city.

    Now, with so much stuff accessible via the net, there is less need to live in the city, esp as so many bookstores and record shops have closed down.

    There are restaurants but I don't need over-priced raw fish.

    Replies: @Luke Lea, @Spike Gomes, @Chrisnonymous

    I don’t like cities, and I like all the things you mention, but I also like a lot of other stuff white people like (I’m not a Budweiser fan like Steve).

    Mr. Spike Gomes gets it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    "I’m not a Budweiser fan like Steve"

    Too expensive for my tastes. Natty Light is more my caliber.

    However, I have discovered a beer too pathetic even for me: Costco's store brand Kirkland Beer. I still have about half left of the 48-can case I bought last winter. It tastes like (slightly) beer-flavored Sprite.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  107. @Chrisnonymous
    @Priss Factor

    I don't like cities, and I like all the things you mention, but I also like a lot of other stuff white people like (I'm not a Budweiser fan like Steve).

    Mr. Spike Gomes gets it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “I’m not a Budweiser fan like Steve”

    Too expensive for my tastes. Natty Light is more my caliber.

    However, I have discovered a beer too pathetic even for me: Costco’s store brand Kirkland Beer. I still have about half left of the 48-can case I bought last winter. It tastes like (slightly) beer-flavored Sprite.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Steve Sailer

    Anyone who's ever played beer-league softball knows the bottom of the beer market has never been full plumbed. Passing the hat for the beer run demanded the max for the minimum.

    The all-time crappiest beer in my experience was Fort Schuyler beer. It's hard to make a beer with no discernible malt or hop character, but they managed. But it was $3.99 per case (1980s money).

  108. @Jefferson
    @PistolPete

    "I had a car mechanic in West Texas who was Guatemalan with blue eyes and (very)dirty blonde hair, with the complexion of Jorge Ramos. Looked quite non Indian, but he was like 4’11 so that gave it away at first glance."

    Blue eyes is so rare in Guatemala that not even the majority of the wealthy 1 percent there have blue eyes, let alone the Guatemalan masses.

    The number 1 richest Guatemalan man in the world Mario Lopez Estrada has brown eyes.
    http://assets.bwbx.io/images/idZ5xRq3gs4Q/v1/1200x-1.jpg

    The number 1 richest Mexican in the world Carlos Slim also has brown eyes.
    http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.556974.1383878190!/image/1547331146.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/1547331146.jpg

    Compare that to the world's richest American Bill Gates who has blue eyes. The wealthy 1 percent in the U.S on average tend to be a lot more blue eyed than the wealthy 1 percent in Latin America.

    Replies: @PistolPete

    Could be a bastard grandson of one of these guys:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Guatemalan

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @PistolPete

    "Could be a bastard grandson of one of these guys:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Guatemalan"

    Give it a rest already not even the majority of people in Greece have blue eyes, let alone freaking Guatemala of all places.

    Since only 10 percent of the population in Greece has blue eyes, in Guatemala the percentage of people with blue eyes is for sure is below 1 percent.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4581457/1/

    Even the light skin Guatemalan beauty pageant contestants tend to be all brown eyed.

    Look at this light skin Miss Guatemala beauty pageant for example, you can clearly see her eyes are brown.
    http://www.telemundo.com/sites/nbcutelemundo/files/styles/promotional_content_1_1/public/guatemala_beauty_001_0.jpg?itok=p15VKi13

  109. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT.
    Bimbo Ayelabola of Lagos gets free $223,000 caesarean for quintuplets at UK hospital. But at least she went home afterwards.


    African mum of quintuplets let off £145,000 NHS bill: Health tourist who came to UK to give birth says no one's asked her to pay [Daily Mail]
    ...
    A Nigerian health tourist who cost the NHS £145,000 having quintuplets has said she never even saw a bill.

    Bimbo Ayelabola, 37, had to have a complex caesarean section after travelling to Britain while pregnant in 2011.

    The operation and neo-natal care for the five babies cost the Health Service in excess of £145,000 – but Miss Ayelabola never paid a penny towards the bill.
    ...
    The hospital involved yesterday admitted it sent only one request for payment, more than six months after Miss Ayelabola left the hospital – and had failed to take any further action when it was returned unpaid.
    ...
    The case follows a series of revelations by the Mail on the true scale of health tourism in Britain. NHS whistleblowers have told how bosses are instructing them to turn a blind eye to health tourists because it is ‘too much trouble’ to chase them for money.

    Only around 16 per cent of the cost of treating health tourists is ever clawed back, according to NHS estimates.

    The Nigerian mother obtained a visitor’s visa soon after discovering she was pregnant in 2010, travelling to the UK to stay with her younger sister, Stella, early in her pregnancy.
    ...
    The true cost of health tourism NHS is unknown, but a Government commissioned report in 2013 put it as high as £2billion.

    Experts say even this is an underestimate – because the vast majority of overseas patients are never identified by hospitals.

    By law, only patients who usually live in the UK are entitled to free hospital care. But the NHS is legally obliged to provide care to anyone if their life is at risk or treatment is considered ‘immediately necessary’ – and they have to claw the costs back later.

    GP appointments are also provided free for everyone. A&E and maternity care are always considered immediately necessary.

    This means patients from overseas who are heavily pregnant women or needing kidney dialysis will often target the NHS.

     

    Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    Weird, because when I was treated by the NHS and my insurance company dragged its heels on paying, the NHS smacked me with a very aggressive collection agency. It wasn’t pretty. I ended up having to pay out of pocket and then try to recoup from my private insurance. But then I’m a white American.

  110. @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "The women look pretty good too in Mexico City."

    The few blondes you see in that upscale night club in Mexico City are all women. There were ZERO blond haired men in that upscale Mexico City nightclub.

    Mexico is like Iran, women have a monopoly on blondness because the men in these two countries do not like to dye their hair blond, only the women like to dye their hair blonde. That is why "blonde" women in Iran and Mexico pretty much all have dark brown haired/black haired husbands/boyfriends.

    A romantic couple where both the woman and the man are blond would stick out like a sore thumb in Mexico. "Blonde" women in Mexico pretty much all end up with guys that are darker than them. The "blonde" women in Mexico all end up with guys who look like Alberto Del Rio from the WWE and Antonio Banderas. "Blonde" women in Mexico all end up with Non Nordic guys.

    Unlike in the U.S where it is still extremely common for blonde haired women to end up with blond haired guys who look like Aaron Carter from The Backstreet Boys and Ryan Gosling.

    I am not surprised there is a lack of blond haired men in Mexico for "blonde" haired women to date/marry, since the vast majority of Caucasoid immigration to Mexico was from Spain and The Middle East. Mexico did not receive large Northern European immigration like The U.S.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @IBC, @Kyle McKenna

    Blond hair is a (big) plus for women almost everywhere on earth. Not so for men, as in many places it’s seen as less masculine. If I had blond hair I’d probably dye it brown.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Kyle McKenna


    Blond hair is a (big) plus for women almost everywhere on earth. Not so for men, as in many places it’s seen as less masculine. If I had blond hair I’d probably dye it brown.
     
    For women blond hair connotes being younger. Real, dyed, tinted this is the perception within Euro-societies. White babies have lighter or blond hair. Japanese babies trend to have brown hair, lighter than black hair when they are older. Thus many NE Asian women dye or tint their hair brown.
    Fake-tinted blonde hair can go many ways in America. The more feminine women display it for vulnerability to get guys attracted to them. While the tall Amazonian types can use it as an intimidating (to men) dominance display. Which also pulls in certain men and the more wealthy the better.

    Worldwide the most desired women are blondes and redheads. It used to be any old redhead could go to Japan or Arabian nations and make a mint. Not sure if this still holds true. There used to be online stories of blonds and redheads kidnapped to live in Arab harems

    Replies: @Anonymous

  111. @PistolPete
    @Jefferson

    Could be a bastard grandson of one of these guys:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Guatemalan

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Could be a bastard grandson of one of these guys:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Guatemalan&#8221;

    Give it a rest already not even the majority of people in Greece have blue eyes, let alone freaking Guatemala of all places.

    Since only 10 percent of the population in Greece has blue eyes, in Guatemala the percentage of people with blue eyes is for sure is below 1 percent.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4581457/1/

    Even the light skin Guatemalan beauty pageant contestants tend to be all brown eyed.

    Look at this light skin Miss Guatemala beauty pageant for example, you can clearly see her eyes are brown.

  112. @SPMoore8
    Migrant who from Africa three months ago to be charged with the murder of an elderly Italian couple:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11834743/Murder-of-elderly-couple-in-Sicily-fuels-Italys-growing-anti-immigrant-sentiment.html

    Something's got to give, here.

    Don't be surprised if the next step is a demand for wars in Libya and Syria to stabilize the situation so these refugees can return to where they came from. The Europeans grass roots on up clearly do not want them.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Do you really, seriously think that the European political class gives a shit about the voters?

  113. @Ed
    @Priss Factor

    This is why I say they should let them
    come. To many in Europe being seen as tolerant among their peers is far more important than leaving the country they inherited to their kids.

    Let Iceland turn into Syria North. Let Italy turn into Eritrea by the Mediterranean. The people want it, give it to them.

    Replies: @Undocumented Shopper, @Anonymous

    Unfortunately this is a lesson that every nation must learn for itself. Nations without racial problems always assume that other nations have them because they’re “racist”. They have to learn the hard way that racism is the consequence of racial problems not the cause of them.

  114. This Syrian exodus is a replay of the Lebanese exodus of the 1980s. How did that play out? The Lebanese have caused major problems in Australia for one thing.

  115. @Anonymous
    To paraphrase Dougherty, 'why would voters want to vote for a political party that actively seeks to displace them?'.

    Absolute brilliant, penetrating insight. Probably the best, wisest, most succinct political comment I've read all year - and then some.
    Sometimes stating the bleeding obvious is like a lightening bolt straight out of the blue. It can't be beaten. It can't be topped.

    So what the Hell were the demented minds of New Labour thinking back in those crazy millennial days?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    To paraphrase Dougherty, ‘why would voters want to vote for a political party that actively seeks to displace them?’.

    For the benefits.

    The Displacement Party has no problem outpandering their rivals, because they’re not bound by the truth.

  116. @Svigor

    Part of it is that so incredibly few Americans have ever traveled abroad, even to Mexico or Canada
     
    In our defense, we're a vast country (collection of countries, more like), and Mexico and Canada aren't very interesting, relatively speaking. If we had something more like France or Italy on our side of the pond, things would be different. The American equivalent of a Frenchman visiting the Czech Republic or a Pole visiting England is an Ohioan visiting Florida or a Californian visiting Vermont.

    So, not really that incredible.

    Replies: @celt darnell, @Busby

    Yes. People often forget how large the U.S. is compared to European countries. Most of us would think nothing of driving the family from New York to Disney World in Orlando. That’s like driving from Paris to Moscow.

  117. @Jefferson
    Someone posted fliers in some people's mailboxes in Southfield, Michigan saying lets vote the Blacks out of Southfield this November.

    It was most likely a hoax "hate crime" committed by a Black person. Southfield, Michigan is a whopping 70 percent Black. So it is not exactly a Whitopia full of racist Republicans and Rednecks.
    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/11191781-story

    Since the general population is 70 percent Black, Southfield's K-12 public schools are probably anywhere from 95 percent Black to 99 percent Black.

    In majority Chocolate cities, the K-12 public school population tend to be even more Chocolate than the adult population.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Clyde

    And just 35 years ago the nearby suburb of Southfield was where Detroit whites escaped to. Now a black suburb.
    And Pontiac stadium only lasted 27 years hosting the Lions which must be a record for a major league venue

  118. @Anonymous
    The skunk Drudge had a headline up today: 223 Illegals Deported From SoCal.

    This is the same crap he pulled during the flood 2000-2010.

    We've got 30 million illegals who have jumped the border. But Drudge is here to make you think "stuff is getting done" ...

    Drudge = Deception

    Replies: @Ed, @Brutusale

    I think you miss the thing that Drudge has the most fun with, in this case highlighting the 223 illegals deported among the millions who’ve wetbacked the border.

    Sort of like Steve does with his titles.

  119. @Kyle McKenna
    @Jefferson

    Blond hair is a (big) plus for women almost everywhere on earth. Not so for men, as in many places it's seen as less masculine. If I had blond hair I'd probably dye it brown.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Blond hair is a (big) plus for women almost everywhere on earth. Not so for men, as in many places it’s seen as less masculine. If I had blond hair I’d probably dye it brown.

    For women blond hair connotes being younger. Real, dyed, tinted this is the perception within Euro-societies. White babies have lighter or blond hair. Japanese babies trend to have brown hair, lighter than black hair when they are older. Thus many NE Asian women dye or tint their hair brown.
    Fake-tinted blonde hair can go many ways in America. The more feminine women display it for vulnerability to get guys attracted to them. While the tall Amazonian types can use it as an intimidating (to men) dominance display. Which also pulls in certain men and the more wealthy the better.

    Worldwide the most desired women are blondes and redheads. It used to be any old redhead could go to Japan or Arabian nations and make a mint. Not sure if this still holds true. There used to be online stories of blonds and redheads kidnapped to live in Arab harems

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Clyde


    Worldwide the most desired women are blondes and redheads. It used to be any old redhead could go to Japan or Arabian nations and make a mint. Not sure if this still holds true. There used to be online stories of blonds and redheads kidnapped to live in Arab harems
     
    Mohammet apparently had red hair so it's presumably considered a desirable trait among the Arabs.

    Traditional attitudes towards red hair in Europe are less positive. I don't know why. The prejudice probably originated with the Jews due to the story of Jacob and Esau.

  120. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    "I’m not a Budweiser fan like Steve"

    Too expensive for my tastes. Natty Light is more my caliber.

    However, I have discovered a beer too pathetic even for me: Costco's store brand Kirkland Beer. I still have about half left of the 48-can case I bought last winter. It tastes like (slightly) beer-flavored Sprite.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Anyone who’s ever played beer-league softball knows the bottom of the beer market has never been full plumbed. Passing the hat for the beer run demanded the max for the minimum.

    The all-time crappiest beer in my experience was Fort Schuyler beer. It’s hard to make a beer with no discernible malt or hop character, but they managed. But it was $3.99 per case (1980s money).

  121. @Svigor

    The skunk Drudge had a headline up today: 223 Illegals Deported From SoCal.

    This is the same crap he pulled during the flood 2000-2010.

    We’ve got 30 million illegals who have jumped the border. But Drudge is here to make you think “stuff is getting done” …

    Drudge = Deception
     
    Drudge is much better for us than he has to be. Also, it's kind of cute how willing he is to promote a swastika spray-painted on a Jew's headstone to national news.

    This is why I say they should let them
    come. To many in Europe being seen as tolerant among their peers is far more important than leaving the country they inherited to their kids.

    Let Iceland turn into Syria North. Let Italy turn into Eritrea by the Mediterranean. The people want it, give it to them.
     
    Let's hope suicide counselors take the same tack with your loved ones, should they seek help.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Also, it’s kind of cute how willing he is to promote a swastika spray-painted on a Jew’s headstone to national news.

    Almost certainly by an SJW, if not a JSJW. What’s the Hebrew for taqiyyah?

  122. @Chrisnonymous
    In Mongolia, 2/3 of the population live in one city. In Japan, some people want to move the capital in part because there are still people moving to Tokyo from the countryside. Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city. Telecommuting is a SWPL conceit.

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @SPMoore8, @Ozymandias

    “Without agriculture, there is no reason not to live in a city.”

    Why one would have to be deranged to want to live in the country when they could be huddled in their makeshift bunker in some crime infested shithole.

  123. There may be few or no blond Mexicans in Mexico, but there are a number of redheads. They tend to be fairly attractive, too. But there are definitely blond haired Mexicans in Wyoming. I personally know five of them, all women.

  124. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    @Kyle McKenna


    Blond hair is a (big) plus for women almost everywhere on earth. Not so for men, as in many places it’s seen as less masculine. If I had blond hair I’d probably dye it brown.
     
    For women blond hair connotes being younger. Real, dyed, tinted this is the perception within Euro-societies. White babies have lighter or blond hair. Japanese babies trend to have brown hair, lighter than black hair when they are older. Thus many NE Asian women dye or tint their hair brown.
    Fake-tinted blonde hair can go many ways in America. The more feminine women display it for vulnerability to get guys attracted to them. While the tall Amazonian types can use it as an intimidating (to men) dominance display. Which also pulls in certain men and the more wealthy the better.

    Worldwide the most desired women are blondes and redheads. It used to be any old redhead could go to Japan or Arabian nations and make a mint. Not sure if this still holds true. There used to be online stories of blonds and redheads kidnapped to live in Arab harems

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Worldwide the most desired women are blondes and redheads. It used to be any old redhead could go to Japan or Arabian nations and make a mint. Not sure if this still holds true. There used to be online stories of blonds and redheads kidnapped to live in Arab harems

    Mohammet apparently had red hair so it’s presumably considered a desirable trait among the Arabs.

    Traditional attitudes towards red hair in Europe are less positive. I don’t know why. The prejudice probably originated with the Jews due to the story of Jacob and Esau.

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