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At least 12 of the staff or guards of Charlie Hebdo, a French humor magazine featuring this week on its cover a caricature of the author of the new novel Submission, have been murdered by Islamist terrorists.

Commenter Reiner Tor provides us with Google Translate’s translation of the cover cartoon on Charlie Hebdo:

Les prédictions du mage Houellebecq:

En 2015, je perds mes dents.

En 2022, je fais ramadan!

Predictions [of] magi Houellebecq:

In 2015, I lose my teeth.

In 2022, I [keep] Ramadan!

 
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  1. Would be interesting to know more about reader/sales numbers of this magazine and financing. They had actual offices and employees but doesn’t look like something that would have lots of sales.

  2. Now that’s what you call Guerilla Marketing… (shamelessly stolen from someone on twitter)

  3. My main concern is that the massacre of 12 journalists and policemen is not used as an excuse for Islamophobia by rabid, hateful christians. So the important thing is to stress that we have no idea as to the religious affiliations of the assassins and that Islam is the religion of peace.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AKAHorace

    It's true that they were recorded on video shouting "Allahu Akbar" and "this will avenge Mohammed" but that proves nothing. This could just be some sort of CIA false flag operation or maybe they were the French version of tea baggers or something. Anything not to deal with the terrible reality that there is a 5th Column, up to 6.5 million strong, inside your country. Even if only one out of 1,000 is disloyal (and I doubt the number is that low), that is still many thousands of potential terrorists in your midst.

  4. Houellebecq’s book official publication date was today, too. I’ll say the sales will be brisk.

    The attack itself was surprisingly competently executed for Muslims. The French policemen who were tasked to protect the magazine’s staff were very incompetent, which was perhaps not unexpected.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @P

    "The French policemen who were tasked to protect the magazine’s staff were very incompetent, which was perhaps not unexpected."

    One of the videos shows a policeman on the ground, possibly wounded but able to prop himself up on an elbow and raise his arms in surrender to two gunmen who then shot him. I hesitate to gainsay a man in that situation but, definitely, not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Chris Mallory

  5. Good morning Steve,
    when the news reached me around noon in Praque, I switched to France24 and saw that Charlie hebdo cover. I immediately bet 20 bucks that it will be your first comment after waking up. How about splitting it 50\50?

  6. Today’s attack in Paris is a tragedy, surely. But it would be far worse if we allow our diversity to become a casualty as well. Backlash, privilege, National Front… etc.

    • Replies: @Wally
    @pseudo

    " But it would be far worse if we allow our diversity to become a casualty as well. Backlash, privilege, National Front… etc."

    Nonsense. It's time the moronic Marxists grasp the reality of it's forced "diversity".

    The perps are not some poor family that has just witnessed the deaths of their relatives by a US drone in their own country. Those sorts do and will have my sympathy and understanding.

    This is a heinous crime by anti free speech religious fanatics.

    Time to wake up and stop the open borders insanity.

    Replies: @rod1963

  7. Again, the Muslims of Europe are finished. What are the correct and beautiful people going to say against Le Pen now? How will Merkel’s scolding and hand-wringing over the Dresden marches be received now? And this is just the rim of a seething and hatred among Europeans for Muslims that will have to be addressed by their leaders this decade. Outside of England, Muslims and non-whites (in big numbers) live in isolated ghettos in several European cities. Two tanks and a few armored cars can shut them off and carry them away.

    The Muslims just can’t leave well enough alone. IQ will tell. If the creeps had waited just a couple of more decades before launching their Jihad against the demographically dead West, they might have taken it all. But as Abba Eban said,”The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”

    One of Houellebecq’s interesting insights in his interview in the Paris Review was that Muslims are living schizophrenic lives in Europe. Politically, they have no choice but to support left-leaning party, while privately their lives and moral beliefs (regarding their women) have much more in common with the most conservatives of conservatives.

    Just get them out. The huge experiment in blank slate failed badly for them, for us.

  8. Over under on when France formally surrenders to Islam?

    • Replies: @Hipster
    @Whiskey

    2022

    , @Ed
    @Whiskey

    I actually think the French will probably be the last European nations to fall to Islam. French backs stiffen when they perceive their culture is being threatened. Satire is part of that culture. Heck they've banned veils.

    It wouldn't surprise me in the least for example if a British monarch converted to Islam. Rumor has it Prince Charles is very partial to the faith. Scandinavian countries will probably be the first to fall.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  9. I love this CNN piece. “Speculation” that the attackers were Islamist, with added “suspicion” because they shouted Allahu Akbar.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/europe/islamist-extremism-in-europe/index.html

  10. I’m sure that the first thought that passed through the minds of the French political class upon hearing this news was, “Merde! This will help that damned Marine Le Pen!”

  11. Well that’s irony for ya.

  12. Well I wish I understood why, but the mag site is having its Trayvon moment.

  13. The poor dears. We simply aren’t reaching out to them enough. And no more making fun of their Prophet! Can’t people see how hurtful that is?

    The guns are the real problem. We need to get rid of those icky things. Then unfortunate events like this ill never happen again.

  14. Sorry, but I won’t be shedding a single tear of sympathy for those murdered cartoonists.
    Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a mulicultural white minority France.

    • Replies: @bossel
    @Anonymous


    I won’t be shedding a single tear of sympathy for those murdered cartoonists.
    Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a mulicultural white minority France.
     
    Which shows that you're just as idiotic as an Islamist. CH is a satire magazine. They make fun of pretty much everyone.

    But your comment shows very nicely why nationalists are no alternative to Islamists. They're both in the same league. "You don't agree with us, then you're the enemy. & everything that happens to you is your own fault."

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @map

  15. Muslims sure know how to deal with ‘hate speech’.

    In the UK, the government locks up people for ‘hate speech’.

    Muslims go all the way and eradicate ‘hate’.

  16. Murdered for publishing cartoons of Mohammed, i.e. un-pc satire. Unless they were radicalized Houellebecq (pbuh) fans false-flagging, of course. White people are devilishly tricky.

    France needs to do something to prevent this! I suggest sensitivity training for infidels and tougher hate speech laws.

  17. Steve – you really need to rewrite your headline, it makes absolutely no sense.

  18. In the Paris Review interview, Houellebecq insists that he has left it ambiguous in “Submission” who’s the bad guy in the imagined contest between French nationalists and Muslims: “Actually, it’s not clear what we are meant to be afraid of, nativists or Muslims. I leave that unresolved.”

    If Houellebecq has been deliberately ambiguous about the moral of his story, is it for aesthetic reasons–a detached literary perspective on society’s evolution?–or is it because he fears state prosecution for inciting racial hatred … or perhaps execution from vengeful jihadists?

  19. This is (shit) test against freedom of speech. A test to see how the french public will react to this attack. Will they try to appease or will they grow a backbone and defend freedom of speech. If they try to appease the muslims, they will get more and more attacks.
    This Hollaback guy’s book Submission was released today, so maybe it’s not a coincidence but a punishment against criticism.

    • Replies: @George
    @Seran

    "freedom of speech " - France does not have what Americans would call freedom of speech. For example the official harassment of France's top comedien Dieudonne. This is more a test of whether the French state can maintain its monoploy of the use of violence to enforce speech laws. Answer: They can't.

    Replies: @dearieme

  20. Is anyone really surprised about what happened in Paris today?

  21. iSteveFan says:

    Obviously the big word that won’t get mentioned in these attacks is the I-word, immigration. Laura Ingraham brought it up today, but she is really not main stream. Of course I wasn’t expecting the MSM to contemplate immigration over this attack anyway.

    But here is what is astounding. This terrorist attack might now mean the GOP won’t put up any fight whatsoever over Obama’s amnesty because they don’t want to have to shut down Homeland Security over budget battles, lest they be blamed for a Paris-style terror attack.

    We all know the GOP leadership quietly supports this amnesty. But there was the chance that regular members of the GOP could have defunded Homeland Security to put pressure on the administration to not go through with it. Now the GOP leaders, who really didn’t want to fight amnesty at all, seem to be using this Paris attack as a means to browbeat other GOPers into not engaging in this type of budget battle.

    So not only will this attack not generate any action against immigration, it seems it will probably stifle any resistance as well.

  22. No matter how many they kill, in the end these guys will loose because they are and have long been looser. Stay strong France!

  23. While this then makes a number of dead fools on the staff of that magazine you gotta wonder how Angela Merkel and all those other German Establishmentarians feel coming out so loudly and proudly in just the last couple of weeks in favor of any and all immigration there and damning those PEGIDA’ tens of thousands who have, in a very orderly manner, been marching and expressing concern over same.

    Maybe given that journalists now see that they aren’t immune from the problems their positions generate this all is gonna change the media at least to some degree. Such as … covering PEGIDA as if it is Nazism redux and asking at least one or two hard questions of a Merkel once in awhile.

  24. They were not ‘slaughtered by terrorists’, they were murdered by followers of Islam.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Hubbub


    They were not ‘slaughtered by terrorists’, they were murdered by followers of Islam.
     
    It's true -- they aren't terrorists.
  25. It’s probably worthwhile to read Juan Cole’s take on this outrage. He differentiates between typical French Muslims, many of whom care less about Islam and more about France, and the terrorists who seek to create a backlash against Muslims in order to create feelings of persecution among the apathetic Muslims.

  26. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The UK Telegraph, in response to the Charlie Hebdo massacre, has the headline, “France faces rising tide of Islamophobia”

    The comments by white people on HuffPo on this massacre reference Timothy McVeigh, The Inquisition, Christianity’s role in slavery, etc.

    Muslims are 11% of the French population and increasing rapidly. The rest of Europe can watch the clusterf*ck that France will spiral into as a prelude to what they’ll see soon enough with significant percentages of Muslims.

    Maybe placing flowers outside the office of Charlie Hebdo or greater efforts to crack down on Islamophobia will turn things around.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Anonymous


    Christianity’s role in slavery
     
    What is Christianity's role in Slavery? I thought it was pretty clearly against slavery and that was one of the reasons for the expulsion of a certain group from Spain.
  27. I suspect the body count is not all staff. At least one policeman was gunned down, then dispatched at close range with a head shot.

    Warning – not nice at all http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668

  28. “At least 12 of the staff of Charlie Hebdo, a magazine featuring the author of “Submission” on its cover this week, have been murdered by terrorists”

    In other news, Cameron and Merkel condemn Islamophobia.

    I’m sure that once fear was something that government was supposed to protect you against.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms

    When did being afraid of something become a failing to be condemned ?

    It doesn’t seem to be a bad thing to express fear of The Man, though – as witness “The Talk”.

  29. According to Google Translate:

    Les prédictions du mage Houellebecq:

    En 2015, je perds mes dents.

    En 2022, je fais ramadan!

    Predictions [of] mage Houellebecq:

    In 2015, I lose my teeth.

    In 2022, I [keep] Ramadan!

  30. It’s France. That means that one should pause, if only for a moment, to wonder who did it.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @dearieme

    OAS bitter-enders?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @dearieme

    , @edwardk
    @dearieme

    somehow video cameras were pre-positioned like the 9/11 'Urban Moving Systems' (before hand) 'to record the event.' But what they recorded doesnt sound like an AK-47, and a point blank shot to the head in close up seems fantastic. ie no evident injury.

    a conspiracy nut amateur close up which wont show up on fox news
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mryx0JQsTTQ

    urban moving systems 9/11FBI APB on Israeli cell
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rYciv9onMM

    Replies: @David

  31. Well, where to start? I’ll make one fairly trivial point: a couple of my SJW Facebook friends (whom I retain for observation purposes, nothing more) have tried the usual responses – “oh no, this will mean more votes for the NF” – and been shouted down with surprising venom by normally mild-mannered people who generally go along with the PC consensus, or who don’t obviously not go along with it. One of them also tried the line “we need to fight back against all extremism, whether Islamic, Christian or Jewish” and was met with withering responses, including a reminder that he himself had made no such universalist plea after Breivik’s rampage, instead decrying in very specific terms right-wing white nationalism. I am encouraged that ordinary souls are starting to use arguments that wouldn’t be out of place on this blog.

    Poor Hollande. He was looking like a broken man even before today and this will probably be the end of him (politically). Arise President Le Pen?

  32. Terrorists sending a message. Who, whom?

  33. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=14f_1420637052 Charlie Hebdo: Terrorists executing police officer in Paris, caught on camera

  34. Waiting for the front lash, please keep us posted Steve…. When some brave Frenchman stands up to the people who plan on harassing those poor sad Muslims for what some evil extremist inevitably will do to Muslims. Perhaps #IWillreadsatirewithyou

  35. Of all the terrorist attacks in recent history, possibly even 9/11 included, this may be the one that gets the point across to the Left – that they have as much reason to fear the Islamification of the West as anyone else. This attack was specifically aimed at satirical journalists. Those kinds of writers may be more inclined the most to utter the occasional politically incorrect thought, but they’re still generally pretty hardcore leftists – think Bill Maher and Jon Stewart, not PJ O’Rourke.

    The ridiculous part is that Muslims get so worked up over occasionally being dissed despite the fact that they’re well on their way to the greatest conquest ever without even having to fire a shot – just lay low, keep fucking their cousins like rabbits, and Europe will be theirs in just 2 generation’s time.

    • Replies: @Mike Street Station
    @Wilkey

    I doubt this will wake up the left any more than 9/11 did. I imagine that if Maher was the target of a Muslim attack, Ben Affleck would say that Maher's racism caused it and Salon would defend the attackers.

    Jon Stewart might get them close, but if he survived, his first words would probably be, "Tea Party..." or something about we have to stand for diversity. No change.

    But PJ O'Rourke? Allu Akbar! Mass conversion of the left to Islam!

    Replies: @IBC

  36. grim stuff:

    Two gunmen entered the offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and opened fire. Witnesses reported seeing masked men shouting “Allahu Akbar” carrying Kalashnikovs going into the magazine’s offices and then hearing heavy gunfire. Police said three attackers were involved, including one who drove a car to the scene.

    • So far, 12 people have been confirmed dead, including eight journalists and two police officers. Eleven were wounded in the attack, and four remain in grave condition, a French prosecutor said. Video footage showed one of the officers being shot at close range as he lay injured on the street. Police described a scene of “butchery” inside Charlie Hebdo’s offices.

    • The attackers are still at large after fleeing the magazine’s offices in a side street off the Boulevard Richard-Lenoir in a car. The attackers exchanged fire with police as they fled. They abandoned the car in the 19th arrondissement, near the Porte de Pantin metro station, where they hijacked another car, ordering the motorist out.

    • The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said all measures were being taken “to neutralise these three criminals”. A French prosecutor said all security agencies were participating. But authorities took no questions and gave no details of the manhunt.

    • French President François Hollande declared a day of national mourning for Thursday. Flags were to fly at half mast for three days. Top government officials were to meet Thursday morning. Large, spontaneous gatherings materialised in public squares across France Wednesday evening to condemn the attacks and pay tribute to the victims.

    Four of the Charlie Hebdo journalists killed in the attack have been named. They are the magazine’s editor and cartoonist, Stéphane Charbonnier, known as Charb; and three other cartoonists: Cabu, Georges Wolinski and Bernard Verlhac, known as Tignous. Writer and economist Bernard Maris, who contributed to Charlie Hebdo, was also reportedly killed.

    • Charlie Hebdo’s editor-in-chief, Gérard Biard, escaped the attack because he was in London. He expressed his shock and said the magazine had had no specific threats of violence. “A newspaper is not a weapon of war,” he said.

    • The terror alert in Paris was raised to its highest level. Children were evacuated from schools in 11th arrondissement, where the attack occurred. Police were deployed to guard newspaper offices, shopping centres, museums and railway stations.

    • Hollande said the country was in shock and called for national unity and pledged punishment against the attackers. “Liberty will always be stronger than barbarism,” he said.

    • Charlie Hebdo has been the subject of violent attacks in the past, following its publication of cartoons of the prophet Muhammad. Its offices were firebombed in 2011, and recent threats have also been made against it and other media groups. Riot police were deployed to its offices in 2012 after it published more Muhammad cartoons, including images of him naked.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/07/paris-terror-attack-what-we-know-so-far

  37. Two gunmen entered the offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and opened fire. Witnesses reported seeing masked men shouting “Allahu Akbar” carrying Kalashnikovs going into the magazine’s offices and then hearing heavy gunfire. Police said three attackers were involved, including one who drove a car to the scene.

    • So far, 12 people have been confirmed dead, including eight journalists and two police officers. Eleven were wounded in the attack, and four remain in grave condition, a French prosecutor said. Video footage showed one of the officers being shot at close range as he lay injured on the street. Police described a scene of “butchery” inside Charlie Hebdo’s offices.

    • The attackers are still at large after fleeing the magazine’s offices in a side street off the Boulevard Richard-Lenoir in a car. The attackers exchanged fire with police as they fled. They abandoned the car in the 19th arrondissement, near the Porte de Pantin metro station, where they hijacked another car, ordering the motorist out.

    • The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said all measures were being taken “to neutralise these three criminals”. A French prosecutor said all security agencies were participating. But authorities took no questions and gave no details of the manhunt.

    • French President François Hollande declared a day of national mourning for Thursday. Flags were to fly at half mast for three days. Top government officials were to meet Thursday morning. Large, spontaneous gatherings materialised in public squares across France Wednesday evening to condemn the attacks and pay tribute to the victims.

    Four of the Charlie Hebdo journalists killed in the attack have been named. They are the magazine’s editor and cartoonist, Stéphane Charbonnier, known as Charb; and three other cartoonists: Cabu, Georges Wolinski and Bernard Verlhac, known as Tignous. Writer and economist Bernard Maris, who contributed to Charlie Hebdo, was also reportedly killed.

    • Charlie Hebdo’s editor-in-chief, Gérard Biard, escaped the attack because he was in London. He expressed his shock and said the magazine had had no specific threats of violence. “A newspaper is not a weapon of war,” he said.

    • The terror alert in Paris was raised to its highest level. Children were evacuated from schools in 11th arrondissement, where the attack occurred. Police were deployed to guard newspaper offices, shopping centres, museums and railway stations.

    • Hollande said the country was in shock and called for national unity and pledged punishment against the attackers. “Liberty will always be stronger than barbarism,” he said.

    • Charlie Hebdo has been the subject of violent attacks in the past, following its publication of cartoons of the prophet Muhammad. Its offices were firebombed in 2011, and recent threats have also been made against it and other media groups. Riot police were deployed to its offices in 2012 after it published more Muhammad cartoons, including images of him naked.

  38. But many morons on this site will claim that immigration from Maghreb and similiar places is better than that from Latin America because it’s whiter and will lump Arabs with native Europeans comparing levels of demographic disaster in Europe and USA.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Lex

    When has anyone on this site ever said anything of the sort?

  39. Bobos are delusional. An opinion piece at the main Socialist newspaper, Liberation says:

    Is it coincidence? The terrorists didn’t attack “islamophobes”, the enemies of Muslims, those who never stop crying Islamist wolf, they targeted Charlie. That is to say tolerance, the rejection of fanaticism, the struggle against dogmatism. They targeted this Left that’s open, tolerant, secular, too polite no doubt, “human rightist”, peaceful, indignant at the world but one that chooses to mock the world rather than impose its catechism upon it. This Left that mocks Houellebecq, Finkielkraut and all the Identitaires just as much…

    http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/01/07/charlie-vivra_1175771

    He’s living in an alternate universe. He’s amazed and shocked that a newspaper that publishes cartoons of Mohammed being sodomized, decapitated and otherwise humiliated is being targeted while the “islamophobes” go free?

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Cagey Beast

    Apparently they'd be all too happy to see those "islamophobes" massacred by the islamist terrorists. They wouldn't care too much, but now they're so shocked that it's not just other people that are dying, but they themselves can die, too.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

  40. Steve, I just posted this on my FB wall.
    Thought you and the readers would enjoy

    Lest the devil, in his ever cunning and treacherous ways, use today’s tragic event to try to seduce your mind to stray from the pure and Right Thinking thoughts that usually dwell in it, to entertain thoughts evil and unbecoming of someone as enlightened and open minded as yourself, I have taken upon myself, as a matter of civic duty, to preempt him. To preempt the ready implications that the devil and his most prized temptress, reality, may present to your weakened mind in its vulnerable state at a trying time like this.

    I call upon you to stand with me as a bulwark against the lies of racism and islamophobia. I call upon you to resist the sweet nectar of bigotry that your mind may unwillingly feed you, to force you to wander, and to question the eternal truths of the day. You may entertain the thought, that a half a century of immigration policy in Western Europe, of multiculturalism based on exploiting white colonial guilt has brought the ruination of Europe and that a rethinking is in order. One may be tempted to question whether all immigrants from all countries of origin are to be treated as one, and to be desired as a welcome element in your society in the same manner.
    Perish the thought! May the brain thinking it be sent to eternal reeducation. May the subversives rot forever in Lubyanka!

    The devil will try to use this new manifestation of reality, an evil we have at times been able to ignore but never to eradicate, to bombard you with all sorts of despicable thoughts, recalling other manifestations of this reality.
    If you are not vigilant, he may even lead your mind so far astray, as to question whether all are equal! That maybe some should be treated differently based on their past and current behavior, and on their avowed expressions of hatred to you and to your culture, that they do not hide. That maybe the policy of importing millions of people from a culture that is millennia apart from yours, and who openly proclaim their plan to overthrow your way of life, and to enslave you once they have done so, is an idea that must be analyzed with additional criticism. That maybe, if one is to import immigrants, preference should be given to those who are similar to you, and who would be happy to adapt to your lifestyle and to be peaceful neighbors, rather than to those who become guarded enemies intermingled in your cities, waiting for an opportunity to impose their savage dominion on you.

    I have only outlined these possible machinations of the devil to warn you against them, to smell them out and to squash them in yourself and others before they bloom into full heresies.
    Many of you, are of a pure and “tolerant” breed, to you such thoughts are as likely to occur as the thought to emulate Genghis Khan. To you I say bravo! You are the pure ones who shall inherit the earth.
    Others, however, have an illness they must guard against, an illness terminal and severe, the inclination towards critical thought. To you I say, so long as your soul remains in you, let not this sickness consume you. Remain steadfast to True Thoughts. For only in them lies your salvation.

    Let us stand proud and tall, unyielding to anything that may appear logical, in our fight to purify our minds and cleanse our souls against the deluge of bigotry. It is in trying times like these that the wheat is separated from the chaff, that the true believers are distinguished from the saboteurs and the realists. The day shall come when we will all be equal, all living in a paradise of tolerance and equality, when reality has been banished from the earth. FOEVER. AMEN!!!

    • Replies: @majneb
    @Jsceptic

    That kind of subversive satire is truly gold. Impressive. Much more effective at convincing people than straight ahead real talk, such as the kind I vainly tried on a Slate comment board today.

    , @Abe
    @Jsceptic


    The day shall come when we will all be equal, all living in a paradise of tolerance and equality, when reality has been banished from the earth. FOEVER. AMEN!
     
    Mowed down by machine guns wielded by the diverse while all the bigots, misogynists, homophobes are left to suffer on earth == libtard rapture
  41. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:

    A bit of an odd and confusing headline, Steve, with its double participle and ambiguous implications. That said, this is quite a shocking and far-reaching story.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @el topo

    Yes, sorry about the semi-literate headline. I was headed for bed and half asleep already.

    Replies: @European-American

  42. Abe says: • Website

    Being myself a stale, pale male who tends to believe in such structurally racist constructs as due process, I would just like to point out we still do not know the identities of the shooters, and should not rush to blame this on Muslim terrorism until we can get absolute confirmation that the masked attackers were indeed NOT humming RUGBY ROAD.

  43. One of the dead was “Cabu”. He’s the cartoonist responsible for either inventing or popularising the term Beauf. In France the term refers to a stereotypical narrow-minded, usually working class, bigot. The French cousin of Archie Bunker. Cabu was anti-racist and according to his Wikipedia page became anti-militarist during the Algerian war. I’ve read that Charlie-Hebdo wanted to ban the National Front back in the 90s.

  44. Welcome, President Marine Le Pen.

  45. I guess this means another round of editorials on the lesser-read sections of Unz.com insisting that this was obviously a CIA/neocon/Mossad false-flag op, and that anyone who doesn’t immediately see it as such is a blinkered sheep, or is serving on the Jews’ payroll.

    • Replies: @metoo
    @HA

    "I guess this means another round of editorials on the lesser-read sections of Unz.com insisting that this was obviously a CIA/neocon/Mossad false-flag op, and that anyone who doesn’t immediately see it as such is a blinkered sheep, or is serving on the Jews’ payroll."

    +1!

  46. I have heard several times today that the goal of the terrorists is not to intimidate but to turn the native population against muslims, so that muslims will feel oppressed and start to radicalize and fight against the non-muslims.

    The elite will take this nonsense at face value, because they want to believe it. It plays exactly in the lefts view of the cause of islamic terrorism – Racism.
    That means that they will do the exactly opposite of what the terrorists “allegedly” wanted. So they will appease the muslims, criticism or making fun of Islam will be more and more silenced and criminalized.

  47. This is the end result of allowing Muslim immigration. As usual, our Western political leadership and press are cowardly idiots. We must continue to accept Muslim immigrants in order to prove we are not bad people!

  48. If Houellebecq wanted the last laugh, he’s got it.

  49. I don’t know what they call bogans in France, but we better get an #illridewithyou going or there might be a backlash of them.

    • Replies: @AJ
    @anonymous-antiskynetist

    Its ok - you only have to imagine to make eye contact.

  50. At least 10, including Wolinski, Cabu, Charb, and Tignous four of the most famous cartoonists in France. The two others killed were policemen, one of them charged with the full-time protection of Charb, the editor-in-chief of the magazine. Luz, who drew the cover, overslept and came late to the meeting, which saved his life.

  51. I think every newspaper in the west should put the cartoon that made the terrorists angry on the front page. Don’t let the terrorists win.

    • Replies: @AJ
    @out of Macon

    One German paper has:

    https://twitter.com/bzberlin/status/552949257477836802/photo/1

    British papers have managed to avoid publishing cartoons - except one of featuring the Pope.

    "We are not Charlie"

  52. @el topo
    A bit of an odd and confusing headline, Steve, with its double participle and ambiguous implications. That said, this is quite a shocking and far-reaching story.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Yes, sorry about the semi-literate headline. I was headed for bed and half asleep already.

    • Replies: @European-American
    @Steve Sailer

    To be fair, the original title wasn't so bad: "Houellebecq parodied on cover of magazine slaughtered by terrorists"*: the killers proudly shouted as they left: "We have killed Charlie Hebdo [the magazine]" and they did come close to wiping out its entire staff, including those of its historic founders who were still alive (Wolinski and Cabu). And tonight at the place de la République, people chanted "Charlie Hebdo is not dead". We'll see. Its staff sure died as heroes though.

    * Though Houellebecq is neither here nor there at this point. His moment as the hot topic everyone talks about ended the minute machine guns were fired. There's an eerie resemblance to what happened in 2001: he got into a lot of trouble for saying "Islam is the world's dumbest religion", but was off the hook of public reprobation a few days later when the Twin Towers came down.

  53. @anonymous-antiskynetist
    I don't know what they call bogans in France, but we better get an #illridewithyou going or there might be a backlash of them.

    Replies: @AJ

    Its ok – you only have to imagine to make eye contact.

  54. Boehner’s impromptu comments today to the press-

    “After such a shocking attack, most people will be too stunned to seriously think about what just transpired. Yet despite the rawness of the tragedy, we should not be too cowardly to begin the grueling, but ultimately enriching, process of asking what exactly did the French do to provoke such an atrocity. Was it their irresponsible adventurism in Iraq? Their one-sided support of Israel at the UN? Or is it their heartless social system, which while guaranteeing free education and healthcare to all, denies young minorities to right to sexual reassignment- and I don’t mean the cheap, ‘OK, let’s call him a girl because he’s sliced off his junk.’ I mean- ‘OK, he still has all his bits and pieces intact, and he likes to watch ultimate fighting, and he really likes raping French girls. But he’s a woman because he says so, so how can we deny him the right to wear a burqa in all the photos for his official documentation, or subject him/her to the sort of frisking at airport terminals and nuclear power plants which her/his culture deems immodest?’

    Make no mistake- this was an assault on the press and the right to free speech. To which I reply- free speech was invented by dead white males to protect their structural privilege. We know this in America because the principles of our constitution derive from dead white men like Thomas Jefferson. But in France, your rights Rights of (cis-hetero) Man derives from philosophes like Montesquieu, who is even deader.

    In short, let me suggest in a spirit of friendship and sincere concern that the first thing France must do is arrest Michel Houellebecq, castrate him, and then break him on the wheel. And Marine Le Pen, because she so dutifully walks in her father’s footsteps, is obviously an honorary dead white man, and should be burned at the stake, though preferably after she is sent to New York City to be raped by some of our strong black brothers.

    Diversity is not the greatest value. It is the only value. Banlieue lives matter!”

    OK, I woke up now.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Abe

    Le Pen and Houellebecq as Heloïse and Abelard? Weird, but fresh, I guess.

  55. iSteveFan says:

    But many morons on this site will claim that immigration from Maghreb and similiar places is better than that from Latin America because it’s whiter and will lump Arabs with native Europeans comparing levels of demographic disaster in Europe and USA.

    ,

    I take it you don’t read this site. People on this site generally do not want any non-European immigration, especially from the muslim world. The only time I’ve seen people consider Europe better off is when they point out that Europe still only has around 5 to 10 percent of its population being muslim, while the USA is closing in on 20 percent of its population being hispanic. And that 20 percent is expected to rise to maybe 40 percent. Additionally people point out that our “proposition-nation notion” puts us at a handicap to fight this trend, while most European countries do not suffer from that affliction.

    In other words, people recognize the trouble with both types of immigration, but acknowledge that the USA is further along in its drive to the cliff.

  56. This is the cartoon by Charb, RIP from last week that some say provoked the attack:
    https://twitter.com/barrycork/status/552820546283790336/photo/1

    Though of course it was the republication in 2006 of the Danish Mohammed cartoons of 2005 that made Charlie Hebdo a target, especially since it added its own, including the cover by Cabu, RIP:
    http://www.telerama.fr/medias/charlie-hebdo-le-blaspheme-pour-religion,121364.php
    The cover shows Mohammed holding his head in hands and sighing “It’s hard to be loved by morons…”.

  57. @out of Macon
    I think every newspaper in the west should put the cartoon that made the terrorists angry on the front page. Don't let the terrorists win.

    Replies: @AJ

    One German paper has:

    https://twitter.com/bzberlin/status/552949257477836802/photo/1

    British papers have managed to avoid publishing cartoons – except one of featuring the Pope.

    “We are not Charlie”

  58. @dearieme
    It's France. That means that one should pause, if only for a moment, to wonder who did it.

    Replies: @fnn, @edwardk

    OAS bitter-enders?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @fnn

    OAS bitter-enders?

    The darkly funny thing is that the old OAS stronghold neighbourhood in Algers became an Islamist stronghold after the whites had been driven out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bab_El_Oued
    "The suitcase or the coffin" was the choice the whites of that neighbourhood were given. The three shooters today are apparently French-born Algerians.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @dearieme
    @fnn

    "OAS bitter-enders?" Heh.

    If I could think of any plausible reason why Hollande would order such a thing, I'd consider it. (Remember the fake assassination attack on Mitterand?)

    I can't think a "false flag" attack by anyone on the right would make sense, because the risk of discovery would be far too great for people who don't control the state apparat, and the cost of discovery would be horrendous.

    So it's either freelancers in the state apparat, or it's just what it appears to be: ordinary, everyday, muslim terrorism. The latter must be far, far the likelier.

  59. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Anonymous
    The UK Telegraph, in response to the Charlie Hebdo massacre, has the headline, “France faces rising tide of Islamophobia”

    The comments by white people on HuffPo on this massacre reference Timothy McVeigh, The Inquisition, Christianity's role in slavery, etc.

    Muslims are 11% of the French population and increasing rapidly. The rest of Europe can watch the clusterf*ck that France will spiral into as a prelude to what they'll see soon enough with significant percentages of Muslims.

    Maybe placing flowers outside the office of Charlie Hebdo or greater efforts to crack down on Islamophobia will turn things around.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    Christianity’s role in slavery

    What is Christianity’s role in Slavery? I thought it was pretty clearly against slavery and that was one of the reasons for the expulsion of a certain group from Spain.

  60. @Lex
    But many morons on this site will claim that immigration from Maghreb and similiar places is better than that from Latin America because it's whiter and will lump Arabs with native Europeans comparing levels of demographic disaster in Europe and USA.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    When has anyone on this site ever said anything of the sort?

  61. @Seran
    This is (shit) test against freedom of speech. A test to see how the french public will react to this attack. Will they try to appease or will they grow a backbone and defend freedom of speech. If they try to appease the muslims, they will get more and more attacks.
    This Hollaback guy's book Submission was released today, so maybe it's not a coincidence but a punishment against criticism.

    Replies: @George

    “freedom of speech ” – France does not have what Americans would call freedom of speech. For example the official harassment of France’s top comedien Dieudonne. This is more a test of whether the French state can maintain its monoploy of the use of violence to enforce speech laws. Answer: They can’t.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @George

    "France does not have what Americans would call freedom of speech." Nor does America. Nor Britain. Nor Australia .....

    On that matter the pass was sold long since.

  62. The spin here in Germany: The leftists are the victims, the “fanatics” (nationalists, religionists) are the aggressors. “We” have to defend the “open society” against the nationalist/religionist fanatics. (Of course, leftist, neocons etc. are never fanatics.)

  63. What did they expect? (Meaning the French government in general, not this particular attack)

    ” Hollande said the country was in shock and called for national unity and pledged punishment against the attackers. “Liberty will always be stronger than barbarism,” he said.”

    We’ll see.

  64. So ……. Were any of the dead, um, Scots-Irish, er, Eskimo, er, that is to say, Yamamomo?

    • Replies: @CJ
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    Georges Wolinski was Jewish. I don't know about the others, but what is certain is that none of them sympathized with the French right.

    , @JustAnotherGuyWithA1911
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    Irish?

  65. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Lex said:

    But many morons on this site will claim that immigration from Maghreb and similiar places is better than that from Latin America because it’s whiter and will lump Arabs with native Europeans comparing levels of demographic disaster in Europe and USA.

    Not this moron. I have believed for quite a while America’s hope lies in its Hispanicization and Orientalization. Europe is done.

    • Replies: @OsRazor
    @Anonymous

    "Not this moron. I have believed for quite a while America’s hope lies in its Hispanicization and Orientalization. Europe is done."

    Absolutely. Those 111,000 Mexicans dead (thousands of decapitations among them), lawlessness and corruption and the notoriously clean and honest societies of the Orientals certainly portend to a marvelous future for the US. You, sir, are a moron.

  66. “Welcome, President Marine Le Pen.”

    I still don’t see this happening, even if they had such events every week in Paris, she will not win. The entire French establishment is against her, the EU will not allow it, the US will not allow it, they will use every lever of power at their disposal to make sure she cannot win. Even if Le Pen had more than 50% popular support, she would not win.

    • Replies: @IBC
    @Neutral


    “Welcome, President Marine Le Pen.”

    I still don’t see this happening, even if they had such events every week in Paris, she will not win. The entire French establishment is against her, the EU will not allow it, the US will not allow it, they will use every lever of power at their disposal to make sure she cannot win. Even if Le Pen had more than 50% popular support, she would not win.
     
    Yes, they'll all "lean in" to prevent her from becoming the first female president of France.
  67. It’s worth noting that I’m not in favor of insulting or mocking any religion, at least not in public. I think that French paper was wrong to do what it did.

    Still, I’m laughing my butt off at the British reaction to this. These people really have no idea what’s going on.

  68. German journalists showing some stones in the wake of this:

  69. @Steve Sailer
    @el topo

    Yes, sorry about the semi-literate headline. I was headed for bed and half asleep already.

    Replies: @European-American

    To be fair, the original title wasn’t so bad: “Houellebecq parodied on cover of magazine slaughtered by terrorists”*: the killers proudly shouted as they left: “We have killed Charlie Hebdo [the magazine]” and they did come close to wiping out its entire staff, including those of its historic founders who were still alive (Wolinski and Cabu). And tonight at the place de la République, people chanted “Charlie Hebdo is not dead”. We’ll see. Its staff sure died as heroes though.

    * Though Houellebecq is neither here nor there at this point. His moment as the hot topic everyone talks about ended the minute machine guns were fired. There’s an eerie resemblance to what happened in 2001: he got into a lot of trouble for saying “Islam is the world’s dumbest religion”, but was off the hook of public reprobation a few days later when the Twin Towers came down.

  70. @fnn
    @dearieme

    OAS bitter-enders?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @dearieme

    OAS bitter-enders?

    The darkly funny thing is that the old OAS stronghold neighbourhood in Algers became an Islamist stronghold after the whites had been driven out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bab_El_Oued
    “The suitcase or the coffin” was the choice the whites of that neighbourhood were given. The three shooters today are apparently French-born Algerians.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Cagey Beast

    It's ironic that the Algerians had no big problem simply kicking out its French population. I don't think anyone lost a wink of sleep over it...

    But in a France or any other western nation, the idea of deporting anybody is so far beyond the pale as to be unthinkable. It's just morally and politically impossible to contemplate.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  71. Apparently the building had electronic entry and they were let in through a pass code. I don’t want to mention that it was a woman, but, yeah:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2900750/I-let-terrorists-Charlie-Hebdo-offices-cowered-desk-daughter-watched-execute-cartoonists-Cartoonist-reveals-survived-attack.html

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @asdfsdfd

    they were let in through a pass code. I don’t want to mention that it was a woman, but, yeah:



    Two masked men with rifles threaten your child, do your type in the code or not?

  72. @Cagey Beast
    Bobos are delusional. An opinion piece at the main Socialist newspaper, Liberation says:

    Is it coincidence? The terrorists didn't attack "islamophobes", the enemies of Muslims, those who never stop crying Islamist wolf, they targeted Charlie. That is to say tolerance, the rejection of fanaticism, the struggle against dogmatism. They targeted this Left that's open, tolerant, secular, too polite no doubt, "human rightist", peaceful, indignant at the world but one that chooses to mock the world rather than impose its catechism upon it. This Left that mocks Houellebecq, Finkielkraut and all the Identitaires just as much…
     
    http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/01/07/charlie-vivra_1175771

    He's living in an alternate universe. He's amazed and shocked that a newspaper that publishes cartoons of Mohammed being sodomized, decapitated and otherwise humiliated is being targeted while the "islamophobes" go free?

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Apparently they’d be all too happy to see those “islamophobes” massacred by the islamist terrorists. They wouldn’t care too much, but now they’re so shocked that it’s not just other people that are dying, but they themselves can die, too.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @reiner Tor

    They can't even see that taunting Muslims, laughing at the massacre of Muslim Brotherhood members in Egypt: http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1363987/charlie-hebdo-frontpage.jpg might count as being "islamophobic" if anything does.

  73. @Wilkey
    Of all the terrorist attacks in recent history, possibly even 9/11 included, this may be the one that gets the point across to the Left - that they have as much reason to fear the Islamification of the West as anyone else. This attack was specifically aimed at satirical journalists. Those kinds of writers may be more inclined the most to utter the occasional politically incorrect thought, but they're still generally pretty hardcore leftists - think Bill Maher and Jon Stewart, not PJ O'Rourke.

    The ridiculous part is that Muslims get so worked up over occasionally being dissed despite the fact that they're well on their way to the greatest conquest ever without even having to fire a shot - just lay low, keep fucking their cousins like rabbits, and Europe will be theirs in just 2 generation's time.

    Replies: @Mike Street Station

    I doubt this will wake up the left any more than 9/11 did. I imagine that if Maher was the target of a Muslim attack, Ben Affleck would say that Maher’s racism caused it and Salon would defend the attackers.

    Jon Stewart might get them close, but if he survived, his first words would probably be, “Tea Party…” or something about we have to stand for diversity. No change.

    But PJ O’Rourke? Allu Akbar! Mass conversion of the left to Islam!

    • Replies: @IBC
    @Mike Street Station


    Jon Stewart might get them close, but if he survived, his first words would probably be, “Tea Party…” or something about we have to stand for diversity. No change.

     

    Yes, and the show would cut to archival footage of the Bundy Ranch standoff with elderly white men standing around wearing cowboy hats and carrying rifles.
  74. Hal:

    “It’s probably worthwhile to read Juan Cole’s take on this outrage. He differentiates between typical French Muslims, many of whom care less about Islam and more about France, and the terrorists who seek to create a backlash against Muslims in order to create feelings of persecution among the apathetic Muslims.”

    No it’s not worth reading. I can tell you that the typical ‘French Muslims’ are arab ethnocentric haters of everything french or white (except the bodies of white girls of course) and that even if a majority of them don’t take their culture’s religion seriously they’re still an hostile population who consider themselves victims of french racism. A lot of arabs living in France have families in Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, etc.

    People like Juan Cole like to make up stories to try to convince their readers that islamophobia and xenophobia are bad things and that mass immigration isn’t a problem

  75. Drudge has been doing extra duty headlining how “White House Questioned French Magazine’s ‘Judgment’…”

    Just as Obama and Holder encouraged the assassination of the NYPD officers, so too they’ve aided and abetted these jihadists.

  76. Neutral:

    “Even if Le Pen had more than 50% popular support, she would not win.”

    In France they’re still using paper ballots, not voting machines. If she has more than half the population behind her then she will become the president

  77. Maybe we shouldn’t mourn too much:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/07/what-to-say-when-you-have-nothing-to-say/

    Charlie Hebdo was not in reality a model of freedom of speech. It has ended up, like so much of the “human rights left”, defending U.S.-led wars against “dictators”.

    In 2002, Philippe Val, who was editor in chief at the time, denounced Noam Chomsky for anti-Americanism and excessive criticism of Israel and of mainstream media. In 2008, another of Charlie Hebdo’s famous cartoonists, Siné, wrote a short note citing a news item that President Sarkozy’s son Jean was going to convert to Judaism to marry the heiress of a prosperous appliance chain. Siné added the comment, “He’ll go far, this lad.” For that, Siné was fired by Philippe Val on grounds of “anti-Semitism”. Siné promptly founded a rival paper which stole a number of Charlie Hebdo readers, revolted by CH’s double standards.

  78. @P
    Houellebecq's book official publication date was today, too. I'll say the sales will be brisk.

    The attack itself was surprisingly competently executed for Muslims. The French policemen who were tasked to protect the magazine's staff were very incompetent, which was perhaps not unexpected.

    Replies: @International Jew

    “The French policemen who were tasked to protect the magazine’s staff were very incompetent, which was perhaps not unexpected.”

    One of the videos shows a policeman on the ground, possibly wounded but able to prop himself up on an elbow and raise his arms in surrender to two gunmen who then shot him. I hesitate to gainsay a man in that situation but, definitely, not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @International Jew

    ... I hesitate to gainsay a man in that situation but, definitely, not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don't you?

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Wilkey

    , @Chris Mallory
    @International Jew

    not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    Bronson was a bit of a legit tough guy, being an ex coal miner. But both men were just actors. No telling what they would do with their legs shot out from under them or with a round in the gut.

  79. Speaking of May 1968, Daniel Cohn-Bendit offers the PC perpective:

    Dany Cohn-Bendit, compagnon de route de la bande de Charlie a également répondu aux questions de nos journalistes : «C’est notre génération , c’est la génération des caricaturistes, l’une des dernières formes de l’esprit de mai 68 qui a été assassinée. Il y a un islamofascisme, ça existe. Ce sont des fascistes, il ne faut pas tourner autour du pot. Comme il y a eu un fascisme venu de la civilisation occidentale, il y a un fascisme venu de la civilisation de l’Islam. Il faut tenir bon maintenant. On a toujours dit: ‘le fascisme ne passera pas». L’ancien leader de mai 68 a ensuite ajouté : «C’est dur mais il faut rester clair dans sa tête et ne pas tout mélanger. Ce qui est attaqué là c’est le droit à la critique radicale de toutes les religions. Charlie Hebdo c’est la radicalité anticléricale, c’est pour ça qu’ils ont été tués. Notre civilisation ce qu’on veut défendre, c’est le droit à cette radicalité.»

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    @syonredux

    Do those people ever stop congratulating themselves? This was as far as the soixante-huitards got.

  80. @Jsceptic
    Steve, I just posted this on my FB wall.
    Thought you and the readers would enjoy



    Lest the devil, in his ever cunning and treacherous ways, use today's tragic event to try to seduce your mind to stray from the pure and Right Thinking thoughts that usually dwell in it, to entertain thoughts evil and unbecoming of someone as enlightened and open minded as yourself, I have taken upon myself, as a matter of civic duty, to preempt him. To preempt the ready implications that the devil and his most prized temptress, reality, may present to your weakened mind in its vulnerable state at a trying time like this.

    I call upon you to stand with me as a bulwark against the lies of racism and islamophobia. I call upon you to resist the sweet nectar of bigotry that your mind may unwillingly feed you, to force you to wander, and to question the eternal truths of the day. You may entertain the thought, that a half a century of immigration policy in Western Europe, of multiculturalism based on exploiting white colonial guilt has brought the ruination of Europe and that a rethinking is in order. One may be tempted to question whether all immigrants from all countries of origin are to be treated as one, and to be desired as a welcome element in your society in the same manner.
    Perish the thought! May the brain thinking it be sent to eternal reeducation. May the subversives rot forever in Lubyanka!

    The devil will try to use this new manifestation of reality, an evil we have at times been able to ignore but never to eradicate, to bombard you with all sorts of despicable thoughts, recalling other manifestations of this reality.
    If you are not vigilant, he may even lead your mind so far astray, as to question whether all are equal! That maybe some should be treated differently based on their past and current behavior, and on their avowed expressions of hatred to you and to your culture, that they do not hide. That maybe the policy of importing millions of people from a culture that is millennia apart from yours, and who openly proclaim their plan to overthrow your way of life, and to enslave you once they have done so, is an idea that must be analyzed with additional criticism. That maybe, if one is to import immigrants, preference should be given to those who are similar to you, and who would be happy to adapt to your lifestyle and to be peaceful neighbors, rather than to those who become guarded enemies intermingled in your cities, waiting for an opportunity to impose their savage dominion on you.

    I have only outlined these possible machinations of the devil to warn you against them, to smell them out and to squash them in yourself and others before they bloom into full heresies.
    Many of you, are of a pure and "tolerant" breed, to you such thoughts are as likely to occur as the thought to emulate Genghis Khan. To you I say bravo! You are the pure ones who shall inherit the earth.
    Others, however, have an illness they must guard against, an illness terminal and severe, the inclination towards critical thought. To you I say, so long as your soul remains in you, let not this sickness consume you. Remain steadfast to True Thoughts. For only in them lies your salvation.

    Let us stand proud and tall, unyielding to anything that may appear logical, in our fight to purify our minds and cleanse our souls against the deluge of bigotry. It is in trying times like these that the wheat is separated from the chaff, that the true believers are distinguished from the saboteurs and the realists. The day shall come when we will all be equal, all living in a paradise of tolerance and equality, when reality has been banished from the earth. FOEVER. AMEN!!!

    Replies: @majneb, @Abe

    That kind of subversive satire is truly gold. Impressive. Much more effective at convincing people than straight ahead real talk, such as the kind I vainly tried on a Slate comment board today.

  81. “Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a multicultural white minority France”

    Yep and they even went as far as to ask the government to ban the Front National by giving them a petition of 175K signatures:

    http://www.fdesouche.com/550453-liberte-dexpression-charlie-hebdo-voulait-interdire-fn

    and ironically one of those who started that petition was killed today by the terrorists

    to claim that this was an attack on freedom is a sick joke. For Charlie Hebdo the only thing that mattered was their socialist-multiculturalist anti-national religious agenda

  82. @Whiskey
    Over under on when France formally surrenders to Islam?

    Replies: @Hipster, @Ed

    2022

  83. @reiner Tor
    @Cagey Beast

    Apparently they'd be all too happy to see those "islamophobes" massacred by the islamist terrorists. They wouldn't care too much, but now they're so shocked that it's not just other people that are dying, but they themselves can die, too.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    They can’t even see that taunting Muslims, laughing at the massacre of Muslim Brotherhood members in Egypt: might count as being “islamophobic” if anything does.

  84. @Abe
    Boehner's impromptu comments today to the press-

    "After such a shocking attack, most people will be too stunned to seriously think about what just transpired. Yet despite the rawness of the tragedy, we should not be too cowardly to begin the grueling, but ultimately enriching, process of asking what exactly did the French do to provoke such an atrocity. Was it their irresponsible adventurism in Iraq? Their one-sided support of Israel at the UN? Or is it their heartless social system, which while guaranteeing free education and healthcare to all, denies young minorities to right to sexual reassignment- and I don't mean the cheap, 'OK, let's call him a girl because he's sliced off his junk.' I mean- 'OK, he still has all his bits and pieces intact, and he likes to watch ultimate fighting, and he really likes raping French girls. But he's a woman because he says so, so how can we deny him the right to wear a burqa in all the photos for his official documentation, or subject him/her to the sort of frisking at airport terminals and nuclear power plants which her/his culture deems immodest?'

    Make no mistake- this was an assault on the press and the right to free speech. To which I reply- free speech was invented by dead white males to protect their structural privilege. We know this in America because the principles of our constitution derive from dead white men like Thomas Jefferson. But in France, your rights Rights of (cis-hetero) Man derives from philosophes like Montesquieu, who is even deader.

    In short, let me suggest in a spirit of friendship and sincere concern that the first thing France must do is arrest Michel Houellebecq, castrate him, and then break him on the wheel. And Marine Le Pen, because she so dutifully walks in her father's footsteps, is obviously an honorary dead white man, and should be burned at the stake, though preferably after she is sent to New York City to be raped by some of our strong black brothers.

    Diversity is not the greatest value. It is the only value. Banlieue lives matter!"


    OK, I woke up now.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Le Pen and Houellebecq as Heloïse and Abelard? Weird, but fresh, I guess.

  85. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Sorry, but I won’t be shedding a single tear of sympathy for those murdered cartoonists.
    Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a mulicultural white minority France.

    This explains why they weren’t a target for hate speech laws.


    MSNBC/Alex Warner: Falwell Suing Hustler same as Charlie Hebdo Massacre

  86. The comments by white people on HuffPo on this massacre reference Timothy McVeigh, The Inquisition, Christianity’s role in slavery, etc.

    Yes, the same record never stops playing with those people. Another group of people are now saying this was really a mossad operation (and every single other act committed by Islamists) as payback for France supporting Palestinian state hood. I very much doubt we will ever hear any different from either group.

  87. Yes, sorry about the semi-literate headline.

    12 Slaughtered in Terrorist Attack on Magazine Featuring Houellebecq on Cover

    I want to know if this slaughter was halal . Or are sheep and goats given more consideration than frogs?

  88. You can invite Muslims into your country, or you can make fun of their prophet, but you can’t both invite them in and make fun of him. It just doesn’t work.

  89. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast
    @fnn

    OAS bitter-enders?

    The darkly funny thing is that the old OAS stronghold neighbourhood in Algers became an Islamist stronghold after the whites had been driven out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bab_El_Oued
    "The suitcase or the coffin" was the choice the whites of that neighbourhood were given. The three shooters today are apparently French-born Algerians.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s ironic that the Algerians had no big problem simply kicking out its French population. I don’t think anyone lost a wink of sleep over it…

    But in a France or any other western nation, the idea of deporting anybody is so far beyond the pale as to be unthinkable. It’s just morally and politically impossible to contemplate.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous

    Yes, that's strange. Those French settlers had been there for a hundred years or so - not any shorter than Algerian immigrants in France.

  90. You know, before Mohammad, there was something called hanifya in that part of the world, which is usually translated as “the original, pure religion of Abraham.” Muslim immigrants in the West, at least those of a moderate disposition, might do well to revert to back to that original, pure religion of Abraham, against which not even Muhammad had anything bad to say. God is just and you will be judged, period.

  91. @syonredux
    Speaking of May 1968, Daniel Cohn-Bendit offers the PC perpective:

    Dany Cohn-Bendit, compagnon de route de la bande de Charlie a également répondu aux questions de nos journalistes : «C’est notre génération , c’est la génération des caricaturistes, l’une des dernières formes de l’esprit de mai 68 qui a été assassinée. Il y a un islamofascisme, ça existe. Ce sont des fascistes, il ne faut pas tourner autour du pot. Comme il y a eu un fascisme venu de la civilisation occidentale, il y a un fascisme venu de la civilisation de l’Islam. Il faut tenir bon maintenant. On a toujours dit: 'le fascisme ne passera pas». L'ancien leader de mai 68 a ensuite ajouté : «C’est dur mais il faut rester clair dans sa tête et ne pas tout mélanger. Ce qui est attaqué là c’est le droit à la critique radicale de toutes les religions. Charlie Hebdo c’est la radicalité anticléricale, c’est pour ça qu’ils ont été tués. Notre civilisation ce qu’on veut défendre, c’est le droit à cette radicalité.»
     

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist

    Do those people ever stop congratulating themselves? This was as far as the soixante-huitards got.

  92. WhatEvvs [AKA "Bemused"] says:

    So far, all I’ve heard is the same old same old from the legacy media, but I haven’t heard much better from the webs.

    I’m waiting to hear from your faithful correspondent Olivier Twist on what the real street reax is.

    I did read an article in which (surprised?) the only one who is talking truth about this is Marine. I think even the most deluded French leftard vomits a little in his throat when Hollande speaks of “unity.” In his heart Monsieur Leftard knows that this is merde.

  93. @fnn
    @dearieme

    OAS bitter-enders?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @dearieme

    “OAS bitter-enders?” Heh.

    If I could think of any plausible reason why Hollande would order such a thing, I’d consider it. (Remember the fake assassination attack on Mitterand?)

    I can’t think a “false flag” attack by anyone on the right would make sense, because the risk of discovery would be far too great for people who don’t control the state apparat, and the cost of discovery would be horrendous.

    So it’s either freelancers in the state apparat, or it’s just what it appears to be: ordinary, everyday, muslim terrorism. The latter must be far, far the likelier.

  94. Screenshots of French Muslims applauding attack:

    Yeah, yeah, this is a tiny minority. Move along, nothing here.

  95. @George
    @Seran

    "freedom of speech " - France does not have what Americans would call freedom of speech. For example the official harassment of France's top comedien Dieudonne. This is more a test of whether the French state can maintain its monoploy of the use of violence to enforce speech laws. Answer: They can't.

    Replies: @dearieme

    “France does not have what Americans would call freedom of speech.” Nor does America. Nor Britain. Nor Australia …..

    On that matter the pass was sold long since.

  96. This is (shit) test against freedom of speech.

    There is no freedom of speech in Europe. A cartoon implying that the Holocaust didn’t happen would land you in jail in most European countries. In France specifically a comedian named Dieudonne “tested” freedom of speech very recently. There is none.

    “French Interior Minister Manuel Valls announced he would try to legally ban public performances by Dieudonné. Valls stated that Dieudonne was “no longer a comedian” but was rather an “anti-Semite and racist” who has run afoul of France’s laws against incitement to racial hatred.”

    I condemn murder, but the Muslims’ point here is that the government does not jail anyone for making fun of THEIR sacred stuff. Only for making fun of OTHER PEOPLE’S sacred stuff.

  97. It’s sad to see the elites on France 24 miss the point of all this.

    “But…but Charlie Hebdo is anti-racist! They make fun of Christians, too!”

    To those who don’t get it, no explanation is possible.

  98. Coincidence that only one day earlier, Arthur Brooks publishes an op-ed in the NYT saying Europe needs more immigration … I wonder if anyone will appreciate the tragic irony … Nah!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/opinion/an-aging-europes-decline.html?_r=0

  99. @Whiskey
    Over under on when France formally surrenders to Islam?

    Replies: @Hipster, @Ed

    I actually think the French will probably be the last European nations to fall to Islam. French backs stiffen when they perceive their culture is being threatened. Satire is part of that culture. Heck they’ve banned veils.

    It wouldn’t surprise me in the least for example if a British monarch converted to Islam. Rumor has it Prince Charles is very partial to the faith. Scandinavian countries will probably be the first to fall.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ed


    It wouldn’t surprise me in the least for example if a British monarch converted to Islam.
     
    Well, as long as he doesn't "swim the Tiber", the law would let him, wouldn't it?

    Charles may be "partial" to Mohammedans, but he does show a genuine "crunchy con" streak as well, and takes culture more seriously than 90% of his countrylads. His father is a celebrated reactionary, and his sons have served in the desert and no doubt have no illusions about the "sandni&&ers".
  100. “…they will use every lever of power at their disposal to make sure she cannot win. Even if Le Pen had more than 50% popular support, she would not win.”

    I agree. The election would be postponed or there would be an armed takeover before the inauguration. Remember when a year or two ago the entire leadership of Golden Dawn was arrested? That happened in an EU member state. If soft methods ever begin to fail, the powers that be will use hard methods.

  101. I immediately thought that some opportunists would be trying to blame this on Alain Soral and Dieudonné and indeed, they have already started. *sigh*

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @ogunsiron

    I just did a search of "Charlie Hebdo Alain Soral" and someone has just posted a compilation video on Alain Soral, Dieudonne and their feud with Charlie Hebdo. The video ends with a dinner table full of people from Charlie Hebdo talking about Dieudo's conspiracy theories. It's a little spooky to see three of today's victims there at the table. It's at YouTube under the title "Alain Soral réagit sur l'affaire Charlie Hebdo"

  102. @HA
    I guess this means another round of editorials on the lesser-read sections of Unz.com insisting that this was obviously a CIA/neocon/Mossad false-flag op, and that anyone who doesn't immediately see it as such is a blinkered sheep, or is serving on the Jews' payroll.

    Replies: @metoo

    “I guess this means another round of editorials on the lesser-read sections of Unz.com insisting that this was obviously a CIA/neocon/Mossad false-flag op, and that anyone who doesn’t immediately see it as such is a blinkered sheep, or is serving on the Jews’ payroll.”

    +1!

  103. how long will MSM wait for the ‘muslims fear backlash’ articles?

  104. Obviously changes have to be made in French society to prevent this from ever happening again. .

    Why not import a few million more Muslims?

    This is Britain’s response to Muslim barbarism . It may eventually work.

  105. Anderson Cooper and Christopher Dickey are on CNN right now talking about freedom of speech being the bulwark of democracy. Just ask Brendan Eich, Pat Buchanan, and Rick Sanchez

  106. @AKAHorace
    My main concern is that the massacre of 12 journalists and policemen is not used as an excuse for Islamophobia by rabid, hateful christians. So the important thing is to stress that we have no idea as to the religious affiliations of the assassins and that Islam is the religion of peace.

    Replies: @Jack D

    It’s true that they were recorded on video shouting “Allahu Akbar” and “this will avenge Mohammed” but that proves nothing. This could just be some sort of CIA false flag operation or maybe they were the French version of tea baggers or something. Anything not to deal with the terrible reality that there is a 5th Column, up to 6.5 million strong, inside your country. Even if only one out of 1,000 is disloyal (and I doubt the number is that low), that is still many thousands of potential terrorists in your midst.

  107. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    So ....... Were any of the dead, um, Scots-Irish, er, Eskimo, er, that is to say, Yamamomo?

    Replies: @CJ, @JustAnotherGuyWithA1911

    Georges Wolinski was Jewish. I don’t know about the others, but what is certain is that none of them sympathized with the French right.

  108. @ogunsiron
    I immediately thought that some opportunists would be trying to blame this on Alain Soral and Dieudonné and indeed, they have already started. *sigh*

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    I just did a search of “Charlie Hebdo Alain Soral” and someone has just posted a compilation video on Alain Soral, Dieudonne and their feud with Charlie Hebdo. The video ends with a dinner table full of people from Charlie Hebdo talking about Dieudo’s conspiracy theories. It’s a little spooky to see three of today’s victims there at the table. It’s at YouTube under the title “Alain Soral réagit sur l’affaire Charlie Hebdo”

  109. Abe says: • Website
    @Jsceptic
    Steve, I just posted this on my FB wall.
    Thought you and the readers would enjoy



    Lest the devil, in his ever cunning and treacherous ways, use today's tragic event to try to seduce your mind to stray from the pure and Right Thinking thoughts that usually dwell in it, to entertain thoughts evil and unbecoming of someone as enlightened and open minded as yourself, I have taken upon myself, as a matter of civic duty, to preempt him. To preempt the ready implications that the devil and his most prized temptress, reality, may present to your weakened mind in its vulnerable state at a trying time like this.

    I call upon you to stand with me as a bulwark against the lies of racism and islamophobia. I call upon you to resist the sweet nectar of bigotry that your mind may unwillingly feed you, to force you to wander, and to question the eternal truths of the day. You may entertain the thought, that a half a century of immigration policy in Western Europe, of multiculturalism based on exploiting white colonial guilt has brought the ruination of Europe and that a rethinking is in order. One may be tempted to question whether all immigrants from all countries of origin are to be treated as one, and to be desired as a welcome element in your society in the same manner.
    Perish the thought! May the brain thinking it be sent to eternal reeducation. May the subversives rot forever in Lubyanka!

    The devil will try to use this new manifestation of reality, an evil we have at times been able to ignore but never to eradicate, to bombard you with all sorts of despicable thoughts, recalling other manifestations of this reality.
    If you are not vigilant, he may even lead your mind so far astray, as to question whether all are equal! That maybe some should be treated differently based on their past and current behavior, and on their avowed expressions of hatred to you and to your culture, that they do not hide. That maybe the policy of importing millions of people from a culture that is millennia apart from yours, and who openly proclaim their plan to overthrow your way of life, and to enslave you once they have done so, is an idea that must be analyzed with additional criticism. That maybe, if one is to import immigrants, preference should be given to those who are similar to you, and who would be happy to adapt to your lifestyle and to be peaceful neighbors, rather than to those who become guarded enemies intermingled in your cities, waiting for an opportunity to impose their savage dominion on you.

    I have only outlined these possible machinations of the devil to warn you against them, to smell them out and to squash them in yourself and others before they bloom into full heresies.
    Many of you, are of a pure and "tolerant" breed, to you such thoughts are as likely to occur as the thought to emulate Genghis Khan. To you I say bravo! You are the pure ones who shall inherit the earth.
    Others, however, have an illness they must guard against, an illness terminal and severe, the inclination towards critical thought. To you I say, so long as your soul remains in you, let not this sickness consume you. Remain steadfast to True Thoughts. For only in them lies your salvation.

    Let us stand proud and tall, unyielding to anything that may appear logical, in our fight to purify our minds and cleanse our souls against the deluge of bigotry. It is in trying times like these that the wheat is separated from the chaff, that the true believers are distinguished from the saboteurs and the realists. The day shall come when we will all be equal, all living in a paradise of tolerance and equality, when reality has been banished from the earth. FOEVER. AMEN!!!

    Replies: @majneb, @Abe

    The day shall come when we will all be equal, all living in a paradise of tolerance and equality, when reality has been banished from the earth. FOEVER. AMEN!

    Mowed down by machine guns wielded by the diverse while all the bigots, misogynists, homophobes are left to suffer on earth == libtard rapture

  110. @Ed
    @Whiskey

    I actually think the French will probably be the last European nations to fall to Islam. French backs stiffen when they perceive their culture is being threatened. Satire is part of that culture. Heck they've banned veils.

    It wouldn't surprise me in the least for example if a British monarch converted to Islam. Rumor has it Prince Charles is very partial to the faith. Scandinavian countries will probably be the first to fall.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It wouldn’t surprise me in the least for example if a British monarch converted to Islam.

    Well, as long as he doesn’t “swim the Tiber”, the law would let him, wouldn’t it?

    Charles may be “partial” to Mohammedans, but he does show a genuine “crunchy con” streak as well, and takes culture more seriously than 90% of his countrylads. His father is a celebrated reactionary, and his sons have served in the desert and no doubt have no illusions about the “sandni&&ers”.

  111. How’s the open borders policy doing now, France?

  112. Leftist agitators being attacked by their pets should be a matter of zero concern to the rest of society. Only if those pets attack ordinary people should there be grounds for anger, and this anger should be directed not at Muslims – who after all know no better – but against their leftist patrons and protectors.

    • Replies: @map
    @Codfish

    Exactly.

    There is no loss here. Progressives were removed from this plane of reality. This is not a problem.

  113. @Neutral
    "Welcome, President Marine Le Pen."

    I still don't see this happening, even if they had such events every week in Paris, she will not win. The entire French establishment is against her, the EU will not allow it, the US will not allow it, they will use every lever of power at their disposal to make sure she cannot win. Even if Le Pen had more than 50% popular support, she would not win.

    Replies: @IBC

    “Welcome, President Marine Le Pen.”

    I still don’t see this happening, even if they had such events every week in Paris, she will not win. The entire French establishment is against her, the EU will not allow it, the US will not allow it, they will use every lever of power at their disposal to make sure she cannot win. Even if Le Pen had more than 50% popular support, she would not win.

    Yes, they’ll all “lean in” to prevent her from becoming the first female president of France.

  114. @Mike Street Station
    @Wilkey

    I doubt this will wake up the left any more than 9/11 did. I imagine that if Maher was the target of a Muslim attack, Ben Affleck would say that Maher's racism caused it and Salon would defend the attackers.

    Jon Stewart might get them close, but if he survived, his first words would probably be, "Tea Party..." or something about we have to stand for diversity. No change.

    But PJ O'Rourke? Allu Akbar! Mass conversion of the left to Islam!

    Replies: @IBC

    Jon Stewart might get them close, but if he survived, his first words would probably be, “Tea Party…” or something about we have to stand for diversity. No change.

    Yes, and the show would cut to archival footage of the Bundy Ranch standoff with elderly white men standing around wearing cowboy hats and carrying rifles.

  115. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Something about Corrine Rey’s story makes no sense to me. Was she approaching the parking lot door as the gunmen approached her? If the gunmen had no idea when anyone might happen to enter or leave the building, that means they had to be loitering about, masked and armed, until someone arrived. How come the building’s security didn’t spot the gunmen if they were waiting around? Even if they hadn’t donned the masks and were sitting in their car, you’d think a cop would be alerted by the presence of two North African men just sitting in a car nearby, especially if the office had been targeted by terrorists before, which it had.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anon


    Something about Corrine Rey’s story makes no sense to me. Was she approaching the parking lot door as the gunmen approached her?
     
    If you're suggesting that she may have been their accomplice, we're on the same page.
  116. how long will MSM wait for the ‘muslims fear backlash’ articles?

    Typing ‘muslim backlash’ in google news generates over 7000 articles, most within the last 6/7 hours. I suspect as the dust settles, we’ll be hearing about this virtually non-existing backlash to come for a few days anyway.

  117. This was a crime committed by conservatives against their arch enemies the liberals.

  118. Where have you gone Charles Martel?

    A nation turns its lonely eyes to you

  119. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    So ....... Were any of the dead, um, Scots-Irish, er, Eskimo, er, that is to say, Yamamomo?

    Replies: @CJ, @JustAnotherGuyWithA1911

    Irish?

  120. I don’t know what’s more disgusting.

    The phony indignation of the French who recently bombed and destroyed law and order in Libya, thereby spawning hordes of crazed terrorist fanatics?
    Or the phony indignation of the “free speech” freaks of the kind that howls murder when someone says something against some protected groups, but are OK with the maligning Mohammad or Jesus (and thus the billions of Muslims or Christians).
    Or the ridiculous imbecility of the Islamist morons who murder people in broad daylight? What do they hope to achieve? Make people fear the Islamic world? The Islamic world is a joke, only Africa is worse off, and that’s because the Africans don’t have as much oil. No country in the world is more barbaric than Saudi Arabia and the crappy little Emirates around there. And everyone knows it.

    Bottom line – venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy’s face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it’s his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.
    At the same time, wanton murder and unrestrained brutality are disgusting. Getting worked up over trifles is a sign of grave insecurity and weakness. This vile massacre is worse than bad for Islam – it’s not just bad, it’s a strategic error.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    @jimbojones


    Bottom line – venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy’s face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it’s his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.
     
    Something to think about for sure. First time I have seen the cartoons published by Charlie Hebdo and they really are outrageously offensive, even to someone who is no fan of Mohammad.

    They best way to fight religious fanaticism is with facts, reason and universal morality. Not with sleazy, juvenile satire.

    Replies: @DWB

    , @Wilkey
    @jimbojones

    "Bottom line – venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy’s face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it’s his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here."

    Go fuck yourself. No one was screaming these cartoons in Muslims' faces. They were printing them in a newspaper. I've been pissed many times about shit I've seen in newspapers. I've never shot up the newsroom over it, nor ever even been tempted to.

    You may want people to treat your religion with respect. Generally most people will. You don't have the right to turn violent if they don't.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @jimbojones


    …but are OK with the maligning Mohammad or Jesus (and thus the billions of Muslims or Christians).
     
    Jesus never told his followers to kill you, or anyone else. His words in your KJV are printed in red ink, not blood.

    Maligning Mohammad, however, is a Christian duty.
    , @reiner Tor
    @jimbojones


    Or the ridiculous imbecility of the Islamist morons who murder people in broad daylight? What do they hope to achieve?
     
    They hope to achieve protected status where nobody will dare make fun of their beliefs. And they aren't totally unsuccessful, I bet you the number of caricatures on Muslims would be way higher without the Muslim terrorism and threats of terrorism against those who made such caricatures.
  121. How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Bliss


    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

     

    Easy. That was news. This is everyday life.

    Man-bites-dog vs. dog-bites-man.
    , @Wilkey
    @Bliss

    "How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?"

    White nationalists are a very small fraction of the overall white population, compared to the fraction of Muslims who are violent. Plus, unlike Muslims, almost none of them are immigrants. They are our burden to bear.

    Muslims are mostly of immigrant stock, and are still arriving in large numbers. We have the power to stop them from immigrating, and to do things which slow their population growth, such as:

    A) Ban all Muslim immigration, full stop - including importation of brides and grooms. If a Muslim in a Western nation wishes to marry a Muslim from abroad - a marriage that is almost always an arranged one, not a romantic one - make them move back to Pakistan, Turkey, Algeria, etc, to do so.

    B) Eliminate generous welfare benefits that subsidize Muslim fecundity.

    C) Deport any and all Muslims you can possibly deport, especially those who commit crimes.

    D) Increase criminal penalties that keep criminals - disproportionately Muslim - in prison for longer - long enough to reduce their ability to procreate.

    , @reiner Tor
    @Bliss

    Well, if we didn't know anything about the population numbers of Muslims in France vs. whites in the US, nothing about the number of incidents involving white nationalists and Muslim radicals, in other words, if we knew nothing about the real world, then, I guess, it is not much different.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Bliss

    Because this is the murder of anti-nationalist liberals by two Muslim nationalists.

    , @Wally
    @Bliss

    What's wrong with white nationalism? I find it commendable.

    Besides, Berg's death had nothing to do white nationalism, per se.

  122. @International Jew
    @P

    "The French policemen who were tasked to protect the magazine’s staff were very incompetent, which was perhaps not unexpected."

    One of the videos shows a policeman on the ground, possibly wounded but able to prop himself up on an elbow and raise his arms in surrender to two gunmen who then shot him. I hesitate to gainsay a man in that situation but, definitely, not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Chris Mallory

    … I hesitate to gainsay a man in that situation but, definitely, not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don’t you?

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Cagey Beast


    You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don’t you?
     
    Heh. When I point out to my wife that those strong independent 140lb women taking down 200lb men in movies or TV series are only actors and they would behave differently in real life she does not take it well.
    , @Wilkey
    @Cagey Beast

    "You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don’t you?"

    You are aware that Fabrizio Quattrocchi was a real man, aren't you?

    Frankly in this situation I hope I would neither act like Quattrocchi nor plead for my life. I hope I would have the good sense to convincingly play dead. If a 6-year-old Sandy Hook victim can pull it off, so can I.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  123. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Cagey Beast
    @International Jew

    ... I hesitate to gainsay a man in that situation but, definitely, not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don't you?

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Wilkey

    You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don’t you?

    Heh. When I point out to my wife that those strong independent 140lb women taking down 200lb men in movies or TV series are only actors and they would behave differently in real life she does not take it well.

  124. @dearieme
    It's France. That means that one should pause, if only for a moment, to wonder who did it.

    Replies: @fnn, @edwardk

    somehow video cameras were pre-positioned like the 9/11 ‘Urban Moving Systems’ (before hand) ‘to record the event.’ But what they recorded doesnt sound like an AK-47, and a point blank shot to the head in close up seems fantastic. ie no evident injury.

    a conspiracy nut amateur close up which wont show up on fox news

    urban moving systems 9/11FBI APB on Israeli cell

    • Replies: @David
    @edwardk

    A good kill shot with a deer or a coyote through the scope looks just like the animal falling asleep. Often, less than a teaspoon of blood is spilt. The ammo those murderers used was likely full metal jacket which gives clean entries and exits. If it were hollow point, there would have been blood splattered around.

  125. The muslim clerics (apparently belonging to al-Qaeda of Yemen) who inspired these terrorist thugs to murder the parisian satirists who insulted Mohammad are simply following the example set by their last prophet himself. They are explicitly commanded by Allah in the Quran to take his final messenger to mankind as their role model till the Day of Judgement. They are therefore the true muslims. For Mohammad himself set the precedent in Medina by having his followers murder the arab poets who opposed and satirized him in their poems, including a woman and an old man.

  126. @Bliss
    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @reiner Tor, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Wally

    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    Easy. That was news. This is everyday life.

    Man-bites-dog vs. dog-bites-man.

  127. To a minority of posters here who said that they had it coming.

    Look even if the cartoonists made fun of everything that Sailers readers stand for they are worth defending. We need to make big changes in western societies. It will be better for everyone if our attitude is “those that are not against us are for us”.

    OK, I am quoting a communist Quisling (Kadar), but he was relatively humane and in the coming changes we need to look for ways of being humane. Most people on this list think that modern western society has been overly optimistic about the role of laws over the sense of patriotism and community and overly pessimistic about its own evil tendencies. Changing this mindset will be a bit of a wrench.

    Any large changes in society, even for the better, produce opportunities for cruelty and corruption. We want a large change but we need to be sure that we as humane as possible, many who oppose us are basically decent people if a bit unhinged. Being right is no guarantee of being honest, being honest is no guarantee of being right.

    • Replies: @Neutral
    @AKAHorace


    Look even if the cartoonists made fun of everything that Sailers readers stand for they are worth defending. We need to make big changes in western societies. It will be better for everyone if our attitude is “those that are not against us are for us”.
     
    Well that is just it, they ARE against us. Those that were killed were the usual leftist pro 3rd world immigration type, they are totally anti white, they are in many ways worse and deadlier to white interests than muslims are.
  128. @Anonymous

    Lex said:

    But many morons on this site will claim that immigration from Maghreb and similiar places is better than that from Latin America because it’s whiter and will lump Arabs with native Europeans comparing levels of demographic disaster in Europe and USA.
     
    Not this moron. I have believed for quite a while America's hope lies in its Hispanicization and Orientalization. Europe is done.

    Replies: @OsRazor

    “Not this moron. I have believed for quite a while America’s hope lies in its Hispanicization and Orientalization. Europe is done.”

    Absolutely. Those 111,000 Mexicans dead (thousands of decapitations among them), lawlessness and corruption and the notoriously clean and honest societies of the Orientals certainly portend to a marvelous future for the US. You, sir, are a moron.

  129. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    @InternationalJew

    If you hate to gainsay a man, of fatherly age and at work in his own country, about to be executed and begging a stranger for his life, then perhaps what you should do is not gainsay him.

    Movies you watched during your youth, intellectual and ongoing or otherwise, are not relevant.

    Warmest,
    praetorian

  130. @jimbojones
    I don't know what's more disgusting.

    The phony indignation of the French who recently bombed and destroyed law and order in Libya, thereby spawning hordes of crazed terrorist fanatics?
    Or the phony indignation of the "free speech" freaks of the kind that howls murder when someone says something against some protected groups, but are OK with the maligning Mohammad or Jesus (and thus the billions of Muslims or Christians).
    Or the ridiculous imbecility of the Islamist morons who murder people in broad daylight? What do they hope to achieve? Make people fear the Islamic world? The Islamic world is a joke, only Africa is worse off, and that's because the Africans don't have as much oil. No country in the world is more barbaric than Saudi Arabia and the crappy little Emirates around there. And everyone knows it.

    Bottom line - venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy's face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it's his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.
    At the same time, wanton murder and unrestrained brutality are disgusting. Getting worked up over trifles is a sign of grave insecurity and weakness. This vile massacre is worse than bad for Islam - it's not just bad, it's a strategic error.

    Replies: @Bliss, @Wilkey, @Reg Cæsar, @reiner Tor

    Bottom line – venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy’s face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it’s his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.

    Something to think about for sure. First time I have seen the cartoons published by Charlie Hebdo and they really are outrageously offensive, even to someone who is no fan of Mohammad.

    They best way to fight religious fanaticism is with facts, reason and universal morality. Not with sleazy, juvenile satire.

    • Replies: @DWB
    @Bliss

    You're both wrong IMHO. Very wrong.

    The whole point of free speech is to protect comments that we find offensive. No one wants to proscribe speech that they like.

    The cartoons were not funny; they were poorly drawn. I can see why a Moslem would be offended.

    As they say here in Paris, "Et, alors?"

    What Charlie Hebdo was doing was decidedly not screaming insults in someone's face. The offended would have had to go to one of relatively few kiosks that sell CH (I've not seen a single one in my decidedly BoBo neighbourhood) and purchase it. They have to go looking to be offended.

    N0 - what this is less about shutting up an obscure, obnoxious source of satire. It's a shot across the bow to others who might entertain the idea of "insulting the prophet."

    You don't like what CH prints? Don't buy their newspaper. You do not respond by killing them.

  131. @Cagey Beast
    @International Jew

    ... I hesitate to gainsay a man in that situation but, definitely, not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don't you?

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Wilkey

    “You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don’t you?”

    You are aware that Fabrizio Quattrocchi was a real man, aren’t you?

    Frankly in this situation I hope I would neither act like Quattrocchi nor plead for my life. I hope I would have the good sense to convincingly play dead. If a 6-year-old Sandy Hook victim can pull it off, so can I.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Wilkey

    I think French cops are reevaluating their kit today:

    http://www.tpnn.com/2015/01/07/french-police-offers-forced-to-retreat-from-gunmen-because-they-were-unarmed/

  132. @jimbojones
    I don't know what's more disgusting.

    The phony indignation of the French who recently bombed and destroyed law and order in Libya, thereby spawning hordes of crazed terrorist fanatics?
    Or the phony indignation of the "free speech" freaks of the kind that howls murder when someone says something against some protected groups, but are OK with the maligning Mohammad or Jesus (and thus the billions of Muslims or Christians).
    Or the ridiculous imbecility of the Islamist morons who murder people in broad daylight? What do they hope to achieve? Make people fear the Islamic world? The Islamic world is a joke, only Africa is worse off, and that's because the Africans don't have as much oil. No country in the world is more barbaric than Saudi Arabia and the crappy little Emirates around there. And everyone knows it.

    Bottom line - venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy's face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it's his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.
    At the same time, wanton murder and unrestrained brutality are disgusting. Getting worked up over trifles is a sign of grave insecurity and weakness. This vile massacre is worse than bad for Islam - it's not just bad, it's a strategic error.

    Replies: @Bliss, @Wilkey, @Reg Cæsar, @reiner Tor

    “Bottom line – venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy’s face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it’s his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.”

    Go fuck yourself. No one was screaming these cartoons in Muslims’ faces. They were printing them in a newspaper. I’ve been pissed many times about shit I’ve seen in newspapers. I’ve never shot up the newsroom over it, nor ever even been tempted to.

    You may want people to treat your religion with respect. Generally most people will. You don’t have the right to turn violent if they don’t.

  133. @Bliss
    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @reiner Tor, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Wally

    “How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?”

    White nationalists are a very small fraction of the overall white population, compared to the fraction of Muslims who are violent. Plus, unlike Muslims, almost none of them are immigrants. They are our burden to bear.

    Muslims are mostly of immigrant stock, and are still arriving in large numbers. We have the power to stop them from immigrating, and to do things which slow their population growth, such as:

    A) Ban all Muslim immigration, full stop – including importation of brides and grooms. If a Muslim in a Western nation wishes to marry a Muslim from abroad – a marriage that is almost always an arranged one, not a romantic one – make them move back to Pakistan, Turkey, Algeria, etc, to do so.

    B) Eliminate generous welfare benefits that subsidize Muslim fecundity.

    C) Deport any and all Muslims you can possibly deport, especially those who commit crimes.

    D) Increase criminal penalties that keep criminals – disproportionately Muslim – in prison for longer – long enough to reduce their ability to procreate.

  134. @Anon
    Something about Corrine Rey's story makes no sense to me. Was she approaching the parking lot door as the gunmen approached her? If the gunmen had no idea when anyone might happen to enter or leave the building, that means they had to be loitering about, masked and armed, until someone arrived. How come the building's security didn't spot the gunmen if they were waiting around? Even if they hadn't donned the masks and were sitting in their car, you'd think a cop would be alerted by the presence of two North African men just sitting in a car nearby, especially if the office had been targeted by terrorists before, which it had.

    Replies: @Anon

    Something about Corrine Rey’s story makes no sense to me. Was she approaching the parking lot door as the gunmen approached her?

    If you’re suggesting that she may have been their accomplice, we’re on the same page.

  135. iSteveFan says:

    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    Because the Paris attackers should never have been in France to begin with. Third world immigrants, or their descendants, should have been kept out of European nations. Crimes committed by them are thus doubly hard to accept, both for the loss of innocent life and because they were preventable evils.

    • Replies: @map
    @iSteveFan

    There is a third reason: white nationalists simply do not pose the same kind of threat to an ordinary citizen that a Muslim does. White Nationalists have, as their primary enemy, the US government and they tend to stick to that target or other, similar organs. White Nationalists are mostly harmless.

    Muslims are commanded by their religion to kill and subjugate all non-Muslims.

  136. “I condemn murder, but the Muslims’ point here is that the government does not jail anyone for making fun of THEIR sacred stuff. Only for making fun of OTHER PEOPLE’S sacred stuff.”

    Muslims should not even be living in France in the first place since they are not ethnically Indigenous to France. So if they do not like French laws regarding how they treat the depiction of Islam, they should get the hell out of France and move back to Egypt or Morocco or Somalia or wherever the hell they came from.

  137. “how long will MSM wait for the ‘muslims fear backlash’ articles?”

    The beta male on steroids Chris Hayes from MSNBC is already talking about how he fears that today’s terrorist attacks might create more Islamophobia among right wing European groups.

  138. “,

    I take it you don’t read this site. People on this site generally do not want any non-European immigration, especially from the muslim world. The only time I’ve seen people consider Europe better off is when they point out that Europe still only has around 5 to 10 percent of its population being muslim, while the USA is closing in on 20 percent of its population being hispanic. And that 20 percent is expected to rise to maybe 40 percent. Additionally people point out that our “proposition-nation notion” puts us at a handicap to fight this trend, while most European countries do not suffer from that affliction.

    In other words, people recognize the trouble with both types of immigration, but acknowledge that the USA is further along in its drive to the cliff.”

    Hispanics on average are the lesser of 2 evils when compared to Muslims and this is coming from a guy who is not exactly pro-La Raza. When was the last time you saw some religious Hispanic Catholic extremist go on a killing spree because he did not like some cartoon strip that made fun of Catholicism.

    Muslims on average are a lot more bat shit crazy than Hispanics.

    While I prefer my country stay predominantly White, if it can not be prevented from becoming predominantly Nonwhite, I might as well choose the Nonwhite group with the least number of crazy bat shit religious extremists.

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @Jefferson

    Hispanics use violence to intimidate Native Born White Americans. I can give you quite a few examples. Here is one:a lone Native Born White American Male...an unemployed carpenter-contractor....had been protesting for several years on the corner of the 7/11 in South Hampton against the presence of Mexican scab labor in the town of South Hampton and East Hampton. He no longer does his lonely protests as the cars passed him by on Montauk Highway...because...of the number of death threats he has received from the Mexican scab labor-gang bangers. These were very serious threats. I use to go over and speak to him...I saw-heard the threats of extreme violence being issued to this Working Class White Male by the Mexican gang bangers-scab labor.

    Asian legal immigrant-US Asian genline threats of violence against Native Born White American Males:1)H-1 B Visa-L-1 B Visa Program=act of extreme economic violemce...On the Lou Dobbs show in 2002 a multi-millionaire Hindu Legal Immigrant threatened severe political retaliation against Americans...White America Males clearly understood to be the target of the threat...if they attempt to shut down the H1B-L1B visa program....

    2)The fake hate crime hoax at the UCSD that resulted in a witch hunt against the minority Native Born White American Male student population on the UCSD campus that was organized by the Pakastni "American" student body president.

    I have many more examples of Asian "American" violence against Native Born White American Males.

  139. @jimbojones
    I don't know what's more disgusting.

    The phony indignation of the French who recently bombed and destroyed law and order in Libya, thereby spawning hordes of crazed terrorist fanatics?
    Or the phony indignation of the "free speech" freaks of the kind that howls murder when someone says something against some protected groups, but are OK with the maligning Mohammad or Jesus (and thus the billions of Muslims or Christians).
    Or the ridiculous imbecility of the Islamist morons who murder people in broad daylight? What do they hope to achieve? Make people fear the Islamic world? The Islamic world is a joke, only Africa is worse off, and that's because the Africans don't have as much oil. No country in the world is more barbaric than Saudi Arabia and the crappy little Emirates around there. And everyone knows it.

    Bottom line - venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy's face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it's his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.
    At the same time, wanton murder and unrestrained brutality are disgusting. Getting worked up over trifles is a sign of grave insecurity and weakness. This vile massacre is worse than bad for Islam - it's not just bad, it's a strategic error.

    Replies: @Bliss, @Wilkey, @Reg Cæsar, @reiner Tor

    …but are OK with the maligning Mohammad or Jesus (and thus the billions of Muslims or Christians).

    Jesus never told his followers to kill you, or anyone else. His words in your KJV are printed in red ink, not blood.

    Maligning Mohammad, however, is a Christian duty.

  140. @Codfish
    Leftist agitators being attacked by their pets should be a matter of zero concern to the rest of society. Only if those pets attack ordinary people should there be grounds for anger, and this anger should be directed not at Muslims - who after all know no better - but against their leftist patrons and protectors.

    Replies: @map

    Exactly.

    There is no loss here. Progressives were removed from this plane of reality. This is not a problem.

  141. @Anonymous
    Sorry, but I won't be shedding a single tear of sympathy for those murdered cartoonists.
    Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a mulicultural white minority France.

    Replies: @bossel

    I won’t be shedding a single tear of sympathy for those murdered cartoonists.
    Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a mulicultural white minority France.

    Which shows that you’re just as idiotic as an Islamist. CH is a satire magazine. They make fun of pretty much everyone.

    But your comment shows very nicely why nationalists are no alternative to Islamists. They’re both in the same league. “You don’t agree with us, then you’re the enemy. & everything that happens to you is your own fault.”

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @bossel


    They make fun of pretty much everyone.
     
    Well, not everyone.
    , @map
    @bossel

    Satirical magazine, huh? That is what you believe? I suppose you think Jon Stewart is a humorist as well.

    Show me their satirical cartoons featuring blacks, jews, women if you say they make fun of "everybody."

  142. @iSteveFan

    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?
     
    Because the Paris attackers should never have been in France to begin with. Third world immigrants, or their descendants, should have been kept out of European nations. Crimes committed by them are thus doubly hard to accept, both for the loss of innocent life and because they were preventable evils.

    Replies: @map

    There is a third reason: white nationalists simply do not pose the same kind of threat to an ordinary citizen that a Muslim does. White Nationalists have, as their primary enemy, the US government and they tend to stick to that target or other, similar organs. White Nationalists are mostly harmless.

    Muslims are commanded by their religion to kill and subjugate all non-Muslims.

  143. And let’s face it, free speech is a joke. It is a vehicle by which progressives dispossess white people of their countries through mass immigration and socialism to benefit the immigrant. I do not care one whit for the “free speech” of progressives. They can all go to hell.

    As Susan Sontag once said, the Soviet Union did not need free speech. It already has socialism.

  144. “5 days after france votes for palestine says:

    somehow video cameras were pre-positioned like the 9/11 ‘Urban Moving Systems’ (before hand) ‘to record the event.’

    Everybody carries a video camera on their person nowadays, idiot. It’s called a cell-phone.

    “But what they recorded doesnt sound like an AK-47, and a point blank shot to the head in close up seems fantastic. ie no evident injury.””

    Sounded like it could have been an AK-47 to me, given the range and the filtering of a cell-phone microphone. Ever seen a man shot in the head? Neither have I. You probably don’t know what it looks like either.

    You probably don’t think Sandy-Hook happened either.

    Nitwit.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Mr. Anon

    The sound of the gunshots actually sounds like the ones during the shoutout scene in Heat. Michael Mann had a couple of British SAS veterans advising him on that film.

  145. “Bliss says:

    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?”

    1.) Alan Berg was one person. This was the murder of 12 people. 12 > 1

    2.) It happend today, not 31 years ago.

    3,) 11% of the current population of France is muslim. What fraction of the American population were neo-nazis in 1984 (The Bruder Schweigen weren’t just “white nationalists” – they were neo-nazis)? 0.001%? 0.00001%? Less?

    Does that answer your question?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    And Oliver Stone made a movie about it.

  146. @Mr. Anon
    "Bliss says:

    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?"

    1.) Alan Berg was one person. This was the murder of 12 people. 12 > 1

    2.) It happend today, not 31 years ago.

    3,) 11% of the current population of France is muslim. What fraction of the American population were neo-nazis in 1984 (The Bruder Schweigen weren't just "white nationalists" - they were neo-nazis)? 0.001%? 0.00001%? Less?

    Does that answer your question?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    And Oliver Stone made a movie about it.

  147. “Sorry, but I won’t be shedding a single tear of sympathy for those murdered cartoonists.
    Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a mulicultural white minority France.”

    I wish there was subtitles to this 80’s song by Philippe Val, director of Charlie Hebdo. It roughly says in the refrain “To you immigrant, be sure that you are welcomed in my house” and the rest of the lyrics basically says that the native French are no good and it’s better for that reason to change that people with the help of immigrants. Well, the descendants of those immigrants just told Charlie Hebdo that France is their house now and Charlie Hebdo is not welcomed in it. Be careful of what you wish for, you might just get it. http://tiny.cc/nm14rx

  148. @Bliss
    @jimbojones


    Bottom line – venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy’s face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it’s his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.
     
    Something to think about for sure. First time I have seen the cartoons published by Charlie Hebdo and they really are outrageously offensive, even to someone who is no fan of Mohammad.

    They best way to fight religious fanaticism is with facts, reason and universal morality. Not with sleazy, juvenile satire.

    Replies: @DWB

    You’re both wrong IMHO. Very wrong.

    The whole point of free speech is to protect comments that we find offensive. No one wants to proscribe speech that they like.

    The cartoons were not funny; they were poorly drawn. I can see why a Moslem would be offended.

    As they say here in Paris, “Et, alors?”

    What Charlie Hebdo was doing was decidedly not screaming insults in someone’s face. The offended would have had to go to one of relatively few kiosks that sell CH (I’ve not seen a single one in my decidedly BoBo neighbourhood) and purchase it. They have to go looking to be offended.

    N0 – what this is less about shutting up an obscure, obnoxious source of satire. It’s a shot across the bow to others who might entertain the idea of “insulting the prophet.”

    You don’t like what CH prints? Don’t buy their newspaper. You do not respond by killing them.

  149. @Anonymous
    @Cagey Beast

    It's ironic that the Algerians had no big problem simply kicking out its French population. I don't think anyone lost a wink of sleep over it...

    But in a France or any other western nation, the idea of deporting anybody is so far beyond the pale as to be unthinkable. It's just morally and politically impossible to contemplate.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Yes, that’s strange. Those French settlers had been there for a hundred years or so – not any shorter than Algerian immigrants in France.

  150. @jimbojones
    I don't know what's more disgusting.

    The phony indignation of the French who recently bombed and destroyed law and order in Libya, thereby spawning hordes of crazed terrorist fanatics?
    Or the phony indignation of the "free speech" freaks of the kind that howls murder when someone says something against some protected groups, but are OK with the maligning Mohammad or Jesus (and thus the billions of Muslims or Christians).
    Or the ridiculous imbecility of the Islamist morons who murder people in broad daylight? What do they hope to achieve? Make people fear the Islamic world? The Islamic world is a joke, only Africa is worse off, and that's because the Africans don't have as much oil. No country in the world is more barbaric than Saudi Arabia and the crappy little Emirates around there. And everyone knows it.

    Bottom line - venom and provocation are not free speech. If a guy starts screaming insults at some other guy's face, we all know that if he gets his lights punched out, it's his own fault. Well, the same principle holds here.
    At the same time, wanton murder and unrestrained brutality are disgusting. Getting worked up over trifles is a sign of grave insecurity and weakness. This vile massacre is worse than bad for Islam - it's not just bad, it's a strategic error.

    Replies: @Bliss, @Wilkey, @Reg Cæsar, @reiner Tor

    Or the ridiculous imbecility of the Islamist morons who murder people in broad daylight? What do they hope to achieve?

    They hope to achieve protected status where nobody will dare make fun of their beliefs. And they aren’t totally unsuccessful, I bet you the number of caricatures on Muslims would be way higher without the Muslim terrorism and threats of terrorism against those who made such caricatures.

  151. @Bliss
    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @reiner Tor, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Wally

    Well, if we didn’t know anything about the population numbers of Muslims in France vs. whites in the US, nothing about the number of incidents involving white nationalists and Muslim radicals, in other words, if we knew nothing about the real world, then, I guess, it is not much different.

  152. @bossel
    @Anonymous


    I won’t be shedding a single tear of sympathy for those murdered cartoonists.
    Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a mulicultural white minority France.
     
    Which shows that you're just as idiotic as an Islamist. CH is a satire magazine. They make fun of pretty much everyone.

    But your comment shows very nicely why nationalists are no alternative to Islamists. They're both in the same league. "You don't agree with us, then you're the enemy. & everything that happens to you is your own fault."

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @map

    They make fun of pretty much everyone.

    Well, not everyone.

  153. anony p:

    freedom of speech being the bulwark of democracy

    The bulwark of democracy is an armed populace in control of the counting of the ballot box and voting on juries.

  154. “White nationalists are a very small fraction of the overall white population,”

    A majority of Whites are considered racist by Liberal media standards. But very few Whites are considered racist by White nationalist Stormfront standards.

    For example, on Stormfront every year they celebrate Adolf Hitler’s birthday and worship him like Muslims worship the prophet Muhammad, while the vast majority of the White masses do not give a flying fuck about Adolf Hitler.

    Less than 1 percent of Whites would be offended if a comic strip making fun of Adolf Hitler came out. A very miniscule number of Whites are emotionally invested in Adolf Hitler. Only on fringe sites like Stormfront does he have rock star status.

    But radical Muslims are nowhere near a small miniscule fringe.

  155. @AKAHorace
    To a minority of posters here who said that they had it coming.

    Look even if the cartoonists made fun of everything that Sailers readers stand for they are worth defending. We need to make big changes in western societies. It will be better for everyone if our attitude is "those that are not against us are for us".

    OK, I am quoting a communist Quisling (Kadar), but he was relatively humane and in the coming changes we need to look for ways of being humane. Most people on this list think that modern western society has been overly optimistic about the role of laws over the sense of patriotism and community and overly pessimistic about its own evil tendencies. Changing this mindset will be a bit of a wrench.

    Any large changes in society, even for the better, produce opportunities for cruelty and corruption. We want a large change but we need to be sure that we as humane as possible, many who oppose us are basically decent people if a bit unhinged. Being right is no guarantee of being honest, being honest is no guarantee of being right.

    Replies: @Neutral

    Look even if the cartoonists made fun of everything that Sailers readers stand for they are worth defending. We need to make big changes in western societies. It will be better for everyone if our attitude is “those that are not against us are for us”.

    Well that is just it, they ARE against us. Those that were killed were the usual leftist pro 3rd world immigration type, they are totally anti white, they are in many ways worse and deadlier to white interests than muslims are.

  156. @Bliss
    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @reiner Tor, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Wally

    Because this is the murder of anti-nationalist liberals by two Muslim nationalists.

  157. @asdfsdfd
    Apparently the building had electronic entry and they were let in through a pass code. I don't want to mention that it was a woman, but, yeah:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2900750/I-let-terrorists-Charlie-Hebdo-offices-cowered-desk-daughter-watched-execute-cartoonists-Cartoonist-reveals-survived-attack.html

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    they were let in through a pass code. I don’t want to mention that it was a woman, but, yeah:

    Two masked men with rifles threaten your child, do your type in the code or not?

  158. @International Jew
    @P

    "The French policemen who were tasked to protect the magazine’s staff were very incompetent, which was perhaps not unexpected."

    One of the videos shows a policeman on the ground, possibly wounded but able to prop himself up on an elbow and raise his arms in surrender to two gunmen who then shot him. I hesitate to gainsay a man in that situation but, definitely, not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Chris Mallory

    not what a wounded Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson would have done.

    Bronson was a bit of a legit tough guy, being an ex coal miner. But both men were just actors. No telling what they would do with their legs shot out from under them or with a round in the gut.

  159. I don’t get it. Why don’t native Europeans just have more kids, if their low birth rate is such a big problem?

    I don’t get it. Why have gov’t if it’s not for the people?

    Black hooker name sez:

    This was a crime committed by conservatives against their arch enemies the liberals.

    That’s true in the same sense that the National Socialist German invasion of the International Socialist Soviet Union was leftist-on-leftist warfare.

    No country in the world is more barbaric than Saudi Arabia and the crappy little Emirates around there. And everyone knows it.

    Saudi Arabia’s immigration policy is more liberal (i.e., western) than Israel’s.

    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    Denver isn’t in Israel, that’s how.

    It isn’t much different from the slaughter of dissidents and un-people by leftists throughout the communist world (nobody kills their own people like leftists), if you want to just generalize willy-nilly.

  160. Which shows that you’re just as idiotic as an Islamist. CH is a satire magazine. They make fun of pretty much everyone.

    But your comment shows very nicely why nationalists are no alternative to Islamists. They’re both in the same league. “You don’t agree with us, then you’re the enemy. & everything that happens to you is your own fault.”

    Leftists made this whole thing possible. Leftists like you, who refuse to admit your religion is bankrupt; leftists like Hebdo, with their who-whom leftism; leftists in general, who support Muslims and their demographic invasion.

    We see the laughable leftist response from Bliss: call the aliens “conservatives.”

    Sure, let’s repatriate ALL of the awful “conservative” aliens from the west, now. Gee, I must be a leftist!

  161. But your comment shows very nicely why nationalists are no alternative to Islamists. They’re both in the same league.

    In the same way that cops and crooks are in the same league. I.e., not limp-wristed sissies.

  162. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Bill Blizzard and his Men"] says:
    @Jefferson
    "@Lex,

    I take it you don’t read this site. People on this site generally do not want any non-European immigration, especially from the muslim world. The only time I’ve seen people consider Europe better off is when they point out that Europe still only has around 5 to 10 percent of its population being muslim, while the USA is closing in on 20 percent of its population being hispanic. And that 20 percent is expected to rise to maybe 40 percent. Additionally people point out that our “proposition-nation notion” puts us at a handicap to fight this trend, while most European countries do not suffer from that affliction.

    In other words, people recognize the trouble with both types of immigration, but acknowledge that the USA is further along in its drive to the cliff."

    Hispanics on average are the lesser of 2 evils when compared to Muslims and this is coming from a guy who is not exactly pro-La Raza. When was the last time you saw some religious Hispanic Catholic extremist go on a killing spree because he did not like some cartoon strip that made fun of Catholicism.

    Muslims on average are a lot more bat shit crazy than Hispanics.

    While I prefer my country stay predominantly White, if it can not be prevented from becoming predominantly Nonwhite, I might as well choose the Nonwhite group with the least number of crazy bat shit religious extremists.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain

    Hispanics use violence to intimidate Native Born White Americans. I can give you quite a few examples. Here is one:a lone Native Born White American Male…an unemployed carpenter-contractor….had been protesting for several years on the corner of the 7/11 in South Hampton against the presence of Mexican scab labor in the town of South Hampton and East Hampton. He no longer does his lonely protests as the cars passed him by on Montauk Highway…because…of the number of death threats he has received from the Mexican scab labor-gang bangers. These were very serious threats. I use to go over and speak to him…I saw-heard the threats of extreme violence being issued to this Working Class White Male by the Mexican gang bangers-scab labor.

    Asian legal immigrant-US Asian genline threats of violence against Native Born White American Males:1)H-1 B Visa-L-1 B Visa Program=act of extreme economic violemce…On the Lou Dobbs show in 2002 a multi-millionaire Hindu Legal Immigrant threatened severe political retaliation against Americans…White America Males clearly understood to be the target of the threat…if they attempt to shut down the H1B-L1B visa program….

    2)The fake hate crime hoax at the UCSD that resulted in a witch hunt against the minority Native Born White American Male student population on the UCSD campus that was organized by the Pakastni “American” student body president.

    I have many more examples of Asian “American” violence against Native Born White American Males.

  163. There is a third reason: white nationalists simply do not pose the same kind of threat to an ordinary citizen that a Muslim does. White Nationalists have, as their primary enemy, the US government and they tend to stick to that target or other, similar organs. White Nationalists are mostly harmless.”

    The proportion of whites who embrace white nationalism is very, very small compared to the proportion of Muslims who embrace Islamist radicalism.

    Right after the Boston Marathon bombing I saw commenters speculating that it was probably a white, right-wing, Timothy McVeigh-type. But murdering random people isn’t their style.

  164. @Hubbub
    They were not 'slaughtered by terrorists', they were murdered by followers of Islam.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    They were not ‘slaughtered by terrorists’, they were murdered by followers of Islam.

    It’s true — they aren’t terrorists.

  165. >> Two tanks and a few armored cars can shut them off and carry them away

    that was the same prediction made by the SS about shutting down the Jewish Ghetto in Warsaw

  166. Truly awful. Regardless of whether the magazine’s viewpoint was worthy, their right to have it is absolute.

  167. >>> Well, as long as he doesn’t “swim the Tiber”, the law would let him, wouldn’t it?

    not true. But, just barely.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_the_Crown_Act_2013

  168. @Wilkey
    @Cagey Beast

    "You are aware that those two men are actors who played fictional characters, don’t you?"

    You are aware that Fabrizio Quattrocchi was a real man, aren't you?

    Frankly in this situation I hope I would neither act like Quattrocchi nor plead for my life. I hope I would have the good sense to convincingly play dead. If a 6-year-old Sandy Hook victim can pull it off, so can I.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  169. @pseudo
    Today's attack in Paris is a tragedy, surely. But it would be far worse if we allow our diversity to become a casualty as well. Backlash, privilege, National Front... etc.

    Replies: @Wally

    ” But it would be far worse if we allow our diversity to become a casualty as well. Backlash, privilege, National Front… etc.”

    Nonsense. It’s time the moronic Marxists grasp the reality of it’s forced “diversity”.

    The perps are not some poor family that has just witnessed the deaths of their relatives by a US drone in their own country. Those sorts do and will have my sympathy and understanding.

    This is a heinous crime by anti free speech religious fanatics.

    Time to wake up and stop the open borders insanity.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    @Wally

    Forget about it, the Left and the political elites aren't about to abandon their goals of open borders and demographic destruction of whites. This is war for them.

    People have forgotten that to Marxists/Leftists/progs politics is a form of warfare so as to acquire power as well as a expression of totalitarianism - you either obey or become the enemy. Just look what they've done to our colleges and the Fed Gov.

    Here's the bottom line with them, they'll shed some alligator tears over their communist/open borders/anti-white buddies at Charlie Hebdos getting killed, but it's business as usual for them and be secretly glad it wasn't them. Just look at the slew of articles that have come out from the MSM organs and those like Slate and The Guardian.

    The war goes on against us.

    Short of a revolution and kicking them to the curb or expelling them from the country - nothing will change.

  170. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It’s disappointing to see Marine Le Pen expressing sympathy for people who would have thrown her and her supporters in prison if they could. (And who would be applauding a similar attack on NF supporters.) Her father would be openly mocking these idiots. That’s OTT, but she could at least keep a prudent silence.

    The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.

  171. @Bliss
    How is this different from the murder of liberal talk radio host Alan Berg by white nationalists in Denver?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @reiner Tor, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Wally

    What’s wrong with white nationalism? I find it commendable.

    Besides, Berg’s death had nothing to do white nationalism, per se.

  172. @edwardk
    @dearieme

    somehow video cameras were pre-positioned like the 9/11 'Urban Moving Systems' (before hand) 'to record the event.' But what they recorded doesnt sound like an AK-47, and a point blank shot to the head in close up seems fantastic. ie no evident injury.

    a conspiracy nut amateur close up which wont show up on fox news
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mryx0JQsTTQ

    urban moving systems 9/11FBI APB on Israeli cell
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rYciv9onMM

    Replies: @David

    A good kill shot with a deer or a coyote through the scope looks just like the animal falling asleep. Often, less than a teaspoon of blood is spilt. The ammo those murderers used was likely full metal jacket which gives clean entries and exits. If it were hollow point, there would have been blood splattered around.

  173. Farrar Straus will publish the American edition of Submission, which I hope will be released around the time the British edition is published in October 2015 by Heinemann.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-SEB-85854?ref=/blogs/speakeasy

  174. Read an early report this morning that the security guard seen begging for his life before the Muslims shot him was himself a Muslim.

    A good kill shot with a deer or a coyote through the scope looks just like the animal falling asleep. Often, less than a teaspoon of blood is spilt. The ammo those murderers used was likely full metal jacket which gives clean entries and exits. If it were hollow point, there would have been blood splattered around.

    I wouldn’t even know where to go about buying hollow point rounds for something like a Kalashnikov chambered in 7.62 or other rifle caliber. Are hollow points for rifle calibers really even a thing that people buy a lot?

    Movies like to go on about “teflon” and “armor-piercing” bullets, as if that’s something special and naughty. The standard military rounds/FMJ – pretty much what everyone buys if they’re not buying cheap stuff from Wolf/Tula – are armor-piercing rounds. For all I know, the Wolf/Tula ammo is similar.

    Tons of this stuff is sold all over America day in, day out. Never seen a “teflon-coated” bullet, though.

    • Replies: @Hard Line Realist
    @Svigor


    I wouldn’t even know where to go about buying hollow point rounds for something like a Kalashnikov chambered in 7.62 or other rifle caliber. Are hollow points for rifle calibers really even a thing that people buy a lot?
     
    Check out places like Sportsman's Guide. There is usually lots of HP ammo available there in 7.62x39 and .308 and other calibers ...
    , @map
    @Svigor

    Yes. Holow points for rifles do exist. They are required for hunting in many jurisdictions.

  175. “Hispanics use violence to intimidate Native Born White Americans. I can give you quite a few examples. Here is one:a lone Native Born White American Male…an unemployed carpenter-contractor….had been protesting for several years on the corner of the 7/11 in South Hampton against the presence of Mexican scab labor in the town of South Hampton and East Hampton. He no longer does his lonely protests as the cars passed him by on Montauk Highway…because…of the number of death threats he has received from the Mexican scab labor-gang bangers. These were very serious threats. I use to go over and speak to him…I saw-heard the threats of extreme violence being issued to this Working Class White Male by the Mexican gang bangers-scab labor.

    Asian legal immigrant-US Asian genline threats of violence against Native Born White American Males:1)H-1 B Visa-L-1 B Visa Program=act of extreme economic violemce…On the Lou Dobbs show in 2002 a multi-millionaire Hindu Legal Immigrant threatened severe political retaliation against Americans…White America Males clearly understood to be the target of the threat…if they attempt to shut down the H1B-L1B visa program….

    2)The fake hate crime hoax at the UCSD that resulted in a witch hunt against the minority Native Born White American Male student population on the UCSD campus that was organized by the Pakastni “American” student body president.

    I have many more examples of Asian “American” violence against Native Born White American Males.”

    None of that compares to the Paris attacks yesterday, 9/11, the Madrid bombing, the London bombing, Muslims in Great Britain going around chopping infidels heads off, etc.

    Muslims are nowhere near the most pleasant Nonwhite group on the planet to be in the presence of.

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @Jefferson

    A 19 year old Canadian White Male had his head sliced off by a Chinese Legal immigrant on a Greyhound bus in Canada...go google this. Ten years ago there was a Mexican immigrant serial killer terrorizing Southern Texas.

    The larger point though is this:don't play the game of "I would prefer Asians and Hispanics" when you can choose none of the above. When your two favorite nonwhite colonizers can enforce their demographic preference on you-us...at the end of a m-16 barrel, you might feel differently about things.

    Forgot this one...the slaughter of White Teenagers on the Virginia Tech campus by a Korean "American" Yut.

  176. “The proportion of whites who embrace white nationalism is very, very small compared to the proportion of Muslims who embrace Islamist radicalism.

    Right after the Boston Marathon bombing I saw commenters speculating that it was probably a white, right-wing, Timothy McVeigh-type. But murdering random people isn’t their style.”

    On The Huffington Post comments section, Timothy McVeigh is the Libtard’s favorite boogeyman to bring up whenever Muslims commit a barbaric act. Oh the Christians are no more civilized than the Muslims, after all Christians produced Timothy McVeigh is what they say. It’s funny that they always have to bring up an incident that happened 20 years ago. Meanwhile Muslims commit barbaric acts several times per year every year. Radical Muslims never take a vacation from acting like uncivilized animals.

  177. @Svigor
    Read an early report this morning that the security guard seen begging for his life before the Muslims shot him was himself a Muslim.

    A good kill shot with a deer or a coyote through the scope looks just like the animal falling asleep. Often, less than a teaspoon of blood is spilt. The ammo those murderers used was likely full metal jacket which gives clean entries and exits. If it were hollow point, there would have been blood splattered around.
     
    I wouldn't even know where to go about buying hollow point rounds for something like a Kalashnikov chambered in 7.62 or other rifle caliber. Are hollow points for rifle calibers really even a thing that people buy a lot?

    Movies like to go on about "teflon" and "armor-piercing" bullets, as if that's something special and naughty. The standard military rounds/FMJ - pretty much what everyone buys if they're not buying cheap stuff from Wolf/Tula - are armor-piercing rounds. For all I know, the Wolf/Tula ammo is similar.

    Tons of this stuff is sold all over America day in, day out. Never seen a "teflon-coated" bullet, though.

    Replies: @Hard Line Realist, @map

    I wouldn’t even know where to go about buying hollow point rounds for something like a Kalashnikov chambered in 7.62 or other rifle caliber. Are hollow points for rifle calibers really even a thing that people buy a lot?

    Check out places like Sportsman’s Guide. There is usually lots of HP ammo available there in 7.62×39 and .308 and other calibers …

  178. HLR, thanks, learn something new every day. What’s it for? Home defense?

    • Replies: @Hard Line Realist
    @Svigor

    Beats me ... If I had to do home defense I would prefer to engage them at 100 or more yards and use ball (1) ammo as that is more likely to go through and through and take out more than one vibrant at a time.

    (1) That is a technical term referring to full metal jacket ammo.

  179. Bee stings kill far more people every year than WNs, much less WNs doing political violence.

  180. @Svigor
    HLR, thanks, learn something new every day. What's it for? Home defense?

    Replies: @Hard Line Realist

    Beats me … If I had to do home defense I would prefer to engage them at 100 or more yards and use ball (1) ammo as that is more likely to go through and through and take out more than one vibrant at a time.

    (1) That is a technical term referring to full metal jacket ammo.

  181. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Bill Blizzard and his Men"] says:
    @Jefferson
    "Hispanics use violence to intimidate Native Born White Americans. I can give you quite a few examples. Here is one:a lone Native Born White American Male…an unemployed carpenter-contractor….had been protesting for several years on the corner of the 7/11 in South Hampton against the presence of Mexican scab labor in the town of South Hampton and East Hampton. He no longer does his lonely protests as the cars passed him by on Montauk Highway…because…of the number of death threats he has received from the Mexican scab labor-gang bangers. These were very serious threats. I use to go over and speak to him…I saw-heard the threats of extreme violence being issued to this Working Class White Male by the Mexican gang bangers-scab labor.

    Asian legal immigrant-US Asian genline threats of violence against Native Born White American Males:1)H-1 B Visa-L-1 B Visa Program=act of extreme economic violemce…On the Lou Dobbs show in 2002 a multi-millionaire Hindu Legal Immigrant threatened severe political retaliation against Americans…White America Males clearly understood to be the target of the threat…if they attempt to shut down the H1B-L1B visa program….

    2)The fake hate crime hoax at the UCSD that resulted in a witch hunt against the minority Native Born White American Male student population on the UCSD campus that was organized by the Pakastni “American” student body president.

    I have many more examples of Asian “American” violence against Native Born White American Males."

    None of that compares to the Paris attacks yesterday, 9/11, the Madrid bombing, the London bombing, Muslims in Great Britain going around chopping infidels heads off, etc.

    Muslims are nowhere near the most pleasant Nonwhite group on the planet to be in the presence of.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain

    A 19 year old Canadian White Male had his head sliced off by a Chinese Legal immigrant on a Greyhound bus in Canada…go google this. Ten years ago there was a Mexican immigrant serial killer terrorizing Southern Texas.

    The larger point though is this:don’t play the game of “I would prefer Asians and Hispanics” when you can choose none of the above. When your two favorite nonwhite colonizers can enforce their demographic preference on you-us…at the end of a m-16 barrel, you might feel differently about things.

    Forgot this one…the slaughter of White Teenagers on the Virginia Tech campus by a Korean “American” Yut.

  182. @Mr. Anon
    "5 days after france votes for palestine says:

    @dearieme

    somehow video cameras were pre-positioned like the 9/11 ‘Urban Moving Systems’ (before hand) ‘to record the event.’

    Everybody carries a video camera on their person nowadays, idiot. It's called a cell-phone.

    "But what they recorded doesnt sound like an AK-47, and a point blank shot to the head in close up seems fantastic. ie no evident injury.""

    Sounded like it could have been an AK-47 to me, given the range and the filtering of a cell-phone microphone. Ever seen a man shot in the head? Neither have I. You probably don't know what it looks like either.

    You probably don't think Sandy-Hook happened either.

    Nitwit.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    The sound of the gunshots actually sounds like the ones during the shoutout scene in Heat. Michael Mann had a couple of British SAS veterans advising him on that film.

  183. @Wally
    @pseudo

    " But it would be far worse if we allow our diversity to become a casualty as well. Backlash, privilege, National Front… etc."

    Nonsense. It's time the moronic Marxists grasp the reality of it's forced "diversity".

    The perps are not some poor family that has just witnessed the deaths of their relatives by a US drone in their own country. Those sorts do and will have my sympathy and understanding.

    This is a heinous crime by anti free speech religious fanatics.

    Time to wake up and stop the open borders insanity.

    Replies: @rod1963

    Forget about it, the Left and the political elites aren’t about to abandon their goals of open borders and demographic destruction of whites. This is war for them.

    People have forgotten that to Marxists/Leftists/progs politics is a form of warfare so as to acquire power as well as a expression of totalitarianism – you either obey or become the enemy. Just look what they’ve done to our colleges and the Fed Gov.

    Here’s the bottom line with them, they’ll shed some alligator tears over their communist/open borders/anti-white buddies at Charlie Hebdos getting killed, but it’s business as usual for them and be secretly glad it wasn’t them. Just look at the slew of articles that have come out from the MSM organs and those like Slate and The Guardian.

    The war goes on against us.

    Short of a revolution and kicking them to the curb or expelling them from the country – nothing will change.

  184. @bossel
    @Anonymous


    I won’t be shedding a single tear of sympathy for those murdered cartoonists.
    Charlie Hebdo was a hard left pro mass third world immigration publication. It hated and ridiculed immigration restrictionists such as the FN. They wanted a mulicultural white minority France.
     
    Which shows that you're just as idiotic as an Islamist. CH is a satire magazine. They make fun of pretty much everyone.

    But your comment shows very nicely why nationalists are no alternative to Islamists. They're both in the same league. "You don't agree with us, then you're the enemy. & everything that happens to you is your own fault."

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @map

    Satirical magazine, huh? That is what you believe? I suppose you think Jon Stewart is a humorist as well.

    Show me their satirical cartoons featuring blacks, jews, women if you say they make fun of “everybody.”

  185. @Svigor
    Read an early report this morning that the security guard seen begging for his life before the Muslims shot him was himself a Muslim.

    A good kill shot with a deer or a coyote through the scope looks just like the animal falling asleep. Often, less than a teaspoon of blood is spilt. The ammo those murderers used was likely full metal jacket which gives clean entries and exits. If it were hollow point, there would have been blood splattered around.
     
    I wouldn't even know where to go about buying hollow point rounds for something like a Kalashnikov chambered in 7.62 or other rifle caliber. Are hollow points for rifle calibers really even a thing that people buy a lot?

    Movies like to go on about "teflon" and "armor-piercing" bullets, as if that's something special and naughty. The standard military rounds/FMJ - pretty much what everyone buys if they're not buying cheap stuff from Wolf/Tula - are armor-piercing rounds. For all I know, the Wolf/Tula ammo is similar.

    Tons of this stuff is sold all over America day in, day out. Never seen a "teflon-coated" bullet, though.

    Replies: @Hard Line Realist, @map

    Yes. Holow points for rifles do exist. They are required for hunting in many jurisdictions.

  186. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Regarding the murdered policeman who was raising his hands in surrender, where are people getting the idea that he was begging for his life? Is there video of him on his knees and asking for mercy? I don’t equate being wounded and raising one’s hands in surrender as begging for one’s life.

  187. Seen this one yet, Steve?

    New York Times Reports On Muslim Proselytizing During Charlie Hebdo Attack, Then Deletes It

    When Islamic terrorists expressly tell their victims why they’re being attacked, our mainstream media will do anything to cover it up. They’ll change the subject, they’ll blame the victims… they’ll even stealth-edit* their own copy.

    Here’s the latest example of the New York Times censoring itself to avoid offending Muslims after an act of Islamic terror. This morning, BenK at Ace of Spades quoted an NYT story by Liz Alderman titled “Survivors Retrace a Scene of Horror at Charlie Hebdo.” Take note of these two paragraphs from that story:

    Sigolène Vinson, a freelancer who had decided to come in that morning to take part in the meeting, thought she would be killed when one of the men approached her.

    Instead, she told French news media, the man said, “I’m not going to kill you because you’re a woman, we don’t kill women, but you must convert to Islam, read the Quran and cover yourself,” she recalled.

    I was intrigued by this quote, and it seemed worth exploring, so I went to the NYT story to quote it. But guess what?

    Here’s what it says now:

    Sigolène Vinson, a freelance journalist who had come in that morning to take part in the meeting, said that when the shooting started, she thought she would be killed.

    Ms. Vinson said in an interview that she dropped to the floor and crawled down the hall to hide behind a partition, but one of the gunmen spotted her and grabbed her by the arm, pointing his gun at her head. Instead of pulling the trigger, though, he told her she would not be killed because she was a woman.

    “Don’t be afraid, calm down, I won’t kill you,” the gunman told her in a steady voice, with a calm look in his eyes, she recalled. “You are a woman. But think about what you’re doing. It’s not right.”

    Haha, the NYT will never live that down. It’s not as big as the UVa Nordic Rape Hoax, but it’s very blatant, and easily understood. More grist for the Right.

  188. Either way, I’m curious as to when all this chivalrous Islamery went down. First, we were told they threatened her life and that of her child in order to gain entry to the building.

  189. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2015-01-08/europe-s-islam-debate-erupts-as-paris-killers-at-large

    The bodies haven’t been buried and the killers are on the loose, but that didn’t prevent anti-Islam politicians across Europe from seizing on the Jan. 7 massacre in Paris.

    The rhetoric varied in intensity across the European Union’s 28 countries, each with its own religious and social phobias, many gripped by an economic recession that makes convenient scapegoats out of immigrants — especially those with veils, turbans and non-white skin.

    This is the kind of “journalism” you get when you allow Jews to take over journalism. “Phobias,” “scapegoating,” white-baiting, etc. In short, Jewish Racism.

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