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It appears that scavengers hoping to snag cool discarded duffel bags found the bombs planted on both 27th Street in Manhattan and at the Elizabeth train station in New Jersey and alerted the authorities before anyone could be killed.
So we’ve got the Department of Homeless Security going for us, which is nice.
Meanwhile, the FBI wants you to be on the lookout for this guy:
Off hand, I’d say: It’s Trump’s fault.
No particular reason, but that just seems to be a good all-purpose Hot Take these days.
Or maybe it’s the fault of Pepe the Frog?
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#i’llDumpsterDiveWithYou
Is that poking fun at the Barack Hussein Obama movie Southside With You?
By the way did Steve ever review that movie?Replies: @Perspective
The FBI just want you to know that Ahmad was extremely careless in the handling of his bombs.
** ZOOLANDER joke
At least till Boomershoot's organizers can guarantee the presence of ten homeless Investigators and a dumpster for every 50 Boomershoot participants.
Everybody in camp Hillary is terrified that Donald Trump will turn the bomb attacks to his advantage by means of “outrageous” remarks that will somehow work in his favor as he has “incomprehensible” done in the past. Hence the absence of direct criticism of Trump and a desperate rush to downplay events or connect them. The MSM isn’t protecting Muslim immigrants this time-they’re protecting Hillary, as they learn from bitter experience.
Philly' BLM-inspired frustrated white cop killer (damn ballistic vests) only managed to kill one of his white bystander victims. Two long days ago, not really news, down the memory hole. Perhaps George Soros and DeRay McKesson will send get-well cards to the survivors. But they're busy people.Replies: @TheJester
Steve may have also wrote about this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/magazine/27-million-potential-hispanic-votes-but-what-will-they-really-add-up-to.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
“Through all my conversations, I began to fear that the real roots of political engagement, which lie not in quadrennial outreach programs but around dinner tables and in churches and classrooms, are far more absent from Latino life in America than most people understand.”
So Obama’s economic and safety plans work in tandem! By underemploying people and making more folks desperate for basic goods, there’s more eyes on the garbage cans and the floor, looking for a quick score!
…incomprehensibly…
I guess edits aren’t possible in iOS?
“So we’ve got Homeless Dumpster Divers going for us, which is nice.”
Conspiracy Theory: There is substantial cooperation between street people, criminals and the police. Don’t be surprised of successful terrorism investigations really consist of successful Afghan drug dealers ratting out their countrymen to the FBI in exchange for being allowed to be successful Afghan drug dealers.
2010 Times Sq bombing:
Meanwhile, Alioune Niasse, a Senegalese immigrant who sells photographs on the Square, was among those who noticed the vehicle and alerted a mounted policeman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Times_Square_car_bombing_attempt#Car_bombing_attempt
I vaguely remember an attempt by the media to report a heroic veteran discovered the bomb.
1931 Fritz Lang film M:
Inspector Karl Lohmann instructs his men to intensify their search and to check the records of recently released psychiatric patients, to look for those with a history of violence against children. They stage frequent raids to question known criminals, disrupting underworld business so badly that Der Schränker (The Safecracker) calls a meeting of the city’s crime lords. They decide to organize their own manhunt, using beggars to watch the children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_(1931_film)
In the final season of the Sopranos, Tony found that a good way to get FBI heat off of him was to provide them with info on potential terrorists.Replies: @SteveRogers42
Conspiracy Theory: There is substantial cooperation between street people, criminals and the police. Don't be surprised of successful terrorism investigations really consist of successful Afghan drug dealers ratting out their countrymen to the FBI in exchange for being allowed to be successful Afghan drug dealers.
2010 Times Sq bombing:
Meanwhile, Alioune Niasse, a Senegalese immigrant who sells photographs on the Square, was among those who noticed the vehicle and alerted a mounted policeman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Times_Square_car_bombing_attempt#Car_bombing_attempt
I vaguely remember an attempt by the media to report a heroic veteran discovered the bomb.
1931 Fritz Lang film M:
Inspector Karl Lohmann instructs his men to intensify their search and to check the records of recently released psychiatric patients, to look for those with a history of violence against children. They stage frequent raids to question known criminals, disrupting underworld business so badly that Der Schränker (The Safecracker) calls a meeting of the city's crime lords. They decide to organize their own manhunt, using beggars to watch the children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_(1931_film)Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hapalong Cassidy, @a Newsreader
“Round up the usual suspects!”
Steve, once I heard the news reports of how the unexploded bombs were found, I came to the same exact conclusion, either homeless or poor hispanics rummaging through garbage literally saving people from being killed.
I live 2 towns over from Elizabeth, in the past, when this country was 90% white, Elizabeth was considered an important city in the NY/NJ area. Immigration has turned it into magnet which attracts the derelicts of society. Now Elizabeth is just a big welfare office and black hole for county taxes, where county citizens are forced to go for jury duty. Just one town over, the population goes from majority non-white to white, and my town nearly all white and upper middle class. What happened to this great country? Are we and our children going to baby sit this mess?
Union County. Not to be confused with Union City, which is in Hudson and at least has a Blondie song to call its own. Elizabeth can't be a total tax black hole, though. Isn't Port Elizabeth there, and part of Newark airport? Oh well, I don't know what the tax base is like, but certainly its residents must be a net negative.Replies: @Former Darfur
I love Steve and all the rest around here, but the game is over. The other team is just running out the clock, and we have no time-outs.
Naturally, I hope Trump wins, but his victory will more a moral victory than a substantive one. He's not going to stop all immigration. He's not going to allow whites the right to freedom of association. He's not going to acknowledge biological differences.
No. We're on our way to some combo of Texas/New Mexico/ California/Mexico and Brazil. That's guaranteed.
The real question is what comes next for whites. Slow death like in South Africa, or will we wake up. Who knows? Our current attitude points to the former but our history points to the latter.
Either way, history will marvel at what we have done to ourselves. I honestly think that they won't believe it and will make up all kinds of false theories as to how we reached this point. I mean, if I wasn't witnessing it myself, I wouldn't believe that a people would do this to themselves. No way. It's ridiculous.Replies: @Desiderius, @Whiskey, @Corvinus
We are seeing what recent experiments have wrought.
There are ways to fix things if we can get the mad scientists out of the glass booth.
My uncle was laughing as he pointed out how clean the sidewalk was.....the bums pick it clean of most trash he said and the city pays them and convicts to clean up what's left.
Another cousin of mine in New Orleans lived on the streets for a while. Her bf scraps from dumpsters.
Despite the reputation it is not an easy job.
One of the unsung benefits of diversity: pyrotechnics
The Chinese brought us fireworks
The Mexicans brought us Judas burning
And now the Muslims have brought us exploding dumpsters.
I guess edits aren't possible in iOS?Replies: @Anon7
Don’t worry about it; we’re all just a basket of incomprehensibles anyway.
Dunno, Steve, looks like a typical white New Yorker/Northern New Jerseyan these days. Young enough that he’s probably “home grown”, and in that case he could have been any of our children. As The Times has said, experts have no idea how to predict who might become radicalized.
The "experts" may not have any idea, but they should. Just as in the 80's they were Jews, today they are Muslim.
Yesterday, the top rated comment at the NY Times on the bomb story was something to the effect that whether the bomber was a Muslim or a white supremacist, either way it would be Trump’s fault. Whoever wrote the comment was hoping against hope that it would be a white guy but knowing in his heart of hearts that it wouldn’t be, so he took care to make sure that Trump would get the blame anyway. Climate of hate, etc.
I doubt we will see another White goy terrorist (i.e. acting with racial motives e.g. Dylann Roof) again for a while*. I think the youth(ish) wing of the alt-right is preventing real domestic White terrorism from happening. If Roof had found (e.g.) therightstuff.biz and he would have realized he was far from alone, and many people would have explained to him how counter-productive it would be to shoot up a black church. Instead of lashing out, he would have started laughing at blacks and mocking liberals and shitposting, etc.
*Assuming we continue down the present path of slow-mo collapse. If things get worse fast, then we might see it. Also, more insane (i.e. MK ULTRA e.g. Sandy Hook, CO movie theater) people who happen to be White, are a possibility, but that's a totally different thing.Replies: @sayless, @Daniel Williams
Oh, are you done with Bush then ?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/18/opinions/terrorism-safety-preconceptions-obeidallah/index.html
Tl;dr: hwyte ppl are just as dangerous as mooslims
Replies: @reiner Tor, @Bill Jones, @Percy Gryce, @Buzz Mohawk, @PiltdownMan, @Big Bill
I’m afraid we’ll never know his motives… probably just mental illness, or somesuch. Happens to white Americans all the time.
Two birds, one stone.
If I lived above a chicken restaurant, I’d wanna kill people too.
(Sorry to make light of events that are hurting people, but hey, this shit is happening all the time now, and we’re just supposed to take it — because we are deplorable.)
> The MSM isn’t protecting Muslim immigrants this time-they’re protecting Hillary
Philly’ BLM-inspired frustrated white cop killer (damn ballistic vests) only managed to kill one of his white bystander victims. Two long days ago, not really news, down the memory hole. Perhaps George Soros and DeRay McKesson will send get-well cards to the survivors. But they’re busy people.
BTW, did you see this recent coverage of Hillary taking on The Frog?
https://twitter.com/tuohy/status/588858468452425728 Mass Immigration Brings Islamic Terrorism To The United States. Hillary Clinton and the Democrats push Mass Immigration. US Sen. Jeff Sessions and Ann Coulter have kept Donald Trump’s feet to the fire on immigration. God bless Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions and Ann Coulter. I have nothing but scorn for the treasonous rats in the Bush and Clinton Organized Crime Families.
So sad really, here is a man who hates on anyone but takes no responsibility for himself to care for himself on his own.
The Chinese brought us fireworks
The Mexicans brought us Judas burning
And now the Muslims have brought us exploding dumpsters.Replies: @Bill Jones, @Jim Christian
Ans at some point the Africans will bring us Necklacing.
FBI’s got boxes of Pepe.
Replies: @reiner Tor, @Bill Jones, @Percy Gryce, @Buzz Mohawk, @PiltdownMan, @Big Bill
” As The Times has said, experts have no idea how to predict who might become radicalized.”
The “experts” may not have any idea, but they should. Just as in the 80’s they were Jews, today they are Muslim.
Ergo, Trump’s abetting terrorists by wanting to get Americans working again?
#homelessforhillary #avotefortrumpsavoteforterriss #makeamericahomelessagain #hopeandsparechange #supportourdumpstertroops
So we’ve got Homeless Dumpster Divers going for us, which is nice.
The Thin Puh Line.
Is there any level of Muslim misbehavior that would cause the left to question our immigration policies?
OT: Washington Post book review pans Clinton/Kaine book as deplorable.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2016/09/16/the-new-clintonkaine-campaign-book-is-just-deplorable/?hpid=hp_special-topic-chain_clintonkaine-630a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.1cf48fc9ca74
Also OT:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/19/hank-paulson-clinton-is-best-chance-for-compromise-on-structural-reforms.html
I'm thinking Trump could use this to his advantage. His surrogates should force Hillary to denounce Hank Paulson like he is forced to denounce David Duke. The next person to interview Bernie should ask him what he thinks about making common cause with Paulson to get Hillary elected.
False equivalency the very founding of egalitarianism. These people make no distinction between a domestic demographic and a foreign one, let alone the moral license of a majority vs a minority.
Replies: @reiner Tor, @Bill Jones, @Percy Gryce, @Buzz Mohawk, @PiltdownMan, @Big Bill
A picture is worth a thousand votes?
I vote “Pepe”!!!! Never trust a frog of color.
“It’s not a fear factor, it’s a matter of survival, the way I’ve done all my life,” he said. His lifestyle is something of a Jules Verne novel.
DiCroce lives on a 65-foot wooden schooner on the New River. He bought the “junker” for $10 and completely rebuilt it. He recycled wood he found floating in canals or in dumpsters. .”Why go to the store and buy new?” Everybody buys new. Old is good. I’ve built my boat out of boatyard dumpsters.”
Divers always save the day.
If you take all the machinery in the world and dump it in the ocean, within months more than half of all humanity will die and within another six months they’d almost all be gone; if you took all the politicians in the world, put them in a rocket, and sent them to the moon, everyone would get along fine.
Cool bomb Ahmad. Want to bring it to the White House?
OT: A study out of Harvard’s Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy has determined the reason for the rise of Trump: He has not only received a higher volume of media coverage, but much more or the coverage was positive or neutral in tone than for any other candidate. Honest! So they say. The key seems to be the fact that the media spend so little time talking about actual issues, and just concentrate on the “horse race” angle, which I guess falls into the “neutral” category. Still, pretty hard to believe.
http://shorensteincenter.org/pre-primary-news-coverage-2016-trump-clinton-sanders/
Whatever our reaction, we do not need leaders who go off at half-cock. . We need people who assess the situation then take the appropriate action.
Trump gave us an anxious alarm and spread fear.
Clinton exhibited steady calm and withheld judgment. She supported local officials, is waiting for investigators at the city, state, and federal levels, and will then assess the findings. That’s how it works (and if that’s a little boring, we don’t need any more panic).
We hunt down criminals methodically after we find them. Slowly, methodically, the administration (Obama and Clinton in the front row) pursued Osama Bin Laden and meted out justice. That’s the advantage of asking questions first and shooting later.
Trump shoots from the hip and misses a lot of the time.
Replies: @reiner Tor, @Bill Jones, @Percy Gryce, @Buzz Mohawk, @PiltdownMan, @Big Bill
Speak for yourself.
Philly' BLM-inspired frustrated white cop killer (damn ballistic vests) only managed to kill one of his white bystander victims. Two long days ago, not really news, down the memory hole. Perhaps George Soros and DeRay McKesson will send get-well cards to the survivors. But they're busy people.Replies: @TheJester
I noticed the same thing. The description of the Philadelphia ambush of the Black female policeman was was generally unnoticed by the MSM. When it warranted a few lines of text, there was no mention of possible motive or similarities with other recent ambushes.
It is also a feature of the MSM that there is no such thing as Black terrorism. The recent ambushes of police in Dallas, Baton Rouge, and Philadelphia are nothing more than lone, angry Black males taking out their just revenge against the “Man” and his police forces that oppress the Black community … even when the officers shot are Black.
Ron Unz has an interesting article featured right now that highlights Black terrorism on the part of the Nation of Islam in the 1970s. Their number of “kills” to terrorize the White community in California might significantly outnumber the number of Blacks killed by the KKK in the 20th Century. No mention in the MSM … down the memory hole.
Also, a simple calculation: If 3,000 Blacks are killed in Chicago every year from primarily Black-on-Black violence (and this rate continues), 150,000 Black will have been killed in 50 years in one Black community in one city. This is almost a notable number … although I’m not betting that the MSM will notice because it undermines the narrative about White oppression that has brutalized Blacks since, let us say, 1619.
How do you come up with this figure? It's 500 or so lately.Replies: @Langley, @stillCARealist
Your figure is too large. However, the number of blacks severely disabled by shootings might be equal to the number of dead. More like 1,000.
3/4 of Blacks killed in Chicago are not only in gangs but also on the SSL or strategic subject list. 1400 who comprise most of the perpetrators and most of the victims of shootings. Plus a few Latinos.
This could be considered 'suicide like' behavior. A lot of white males die from handgun as a method of suicide. This is not meant to be an literal equivalence -- just why there is a sense of resignation among ghetto blacks about their homicide epidemic. White suicide isn't considered a social problem, it is considered a mental health issue and a personal tragedy.
There does seem to be a distinction in the black community between gang members killing each other and 'innocent' victims, hit by accident or unintended targets.
This might seem odd, but the BLM victims tended to be *not* on the SSL or equivalent. I see them as criminals and not innocent. But there is a distinction that I think is invisible to whites. Or it was to me.
As far as whats really going on in Chicago, if you assume that there is some sort of retaliation constant -- maybe 1/4 to 3/4 -- for every gang killing -- then you can consider that with heavy police involvement, maybe they can reduce retaliation killings to reduce the ratio -- but if they are less aggressive? Then you have your 2 fold increase in homicides.
The single best thing that I have seen is that the SSL does not use any demographic data. Nor does it use geography. Its based on gang membership and contact with police, I believe. The exact formula isn't disclose.
I would be surprised if a single white person is on the list. It gets at race, but does so in a way that also targets all the predictive variables. it is silly to even talk about homicide in Chicago and ignore race. But this is a good enough proxy to at least say something reasonable. The police superintendent is very anxious to talk about it, since it indicates that this is nothing for regular people to worry themselves over -- its just gangsters killing each other.
However, gang members aren't a special outlaw class. Exactly, anyway. They are members of the community. The sons, fathers, etc. of community members that aren't criminal. The only real solution is to depopulate black ghetto like neighborhoods in cities. It is already happening, as blacks that show any agency have voted with their feet and moved out.
With the update, I delved into an Internet search on Chicago. It turns out that 970 were killed in 1974 with similar stats through the 1970s. 994 were killed in 1994 with similar stats through the 1990s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
There was a marked drop in population in Chicago starting in the 1970s. I wonder if the Black-on-Black killing had anything to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago
The hype is real: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-shatters-gop-records-with-small-donors-228338
Treasure-trove of strong candidates for performing surveillance of our nation’s dumpsters among the 4,500,000 garbage-eating Venezuelans:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/09/18/venezuela-15-percent-eat-garbage-survival/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2016/09/16/the-new-clintonkaine-campaign-book-is-just-deplorable/?hpid=hp_special-topic-chain_clintonkaine-630a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.1cf48fc9ca74Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Barnard
Last time I looked at the Amazon page for it, it had a very large number of 1 star reviews.
Here is a sample of the top five rated reviews of the book. They are very funny.
Conspiracy Theory: There is substantial cooperation between street people, criminals and the police. Don't be surprised of successful terrorism investigations really consist of successful Afghan drug dealers ratting out their countrymen to the FBI in exchange for being allowed to be successful Afghan drug dealers.
2010 Times Sq bombing:
Meanwhile, Alioune Niasse, a Senegalese immigrant who sells photographs on the Square, was among those who noticed the vehicle and alerted a mounted policeman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Times_Square_car_bombing_attempt#Car_bombing_attempt
I vaguely remember an attempt by the media to report a heroic veteran discovered the bomb.
1931 Fritz Lang film M:
Inspector Karl Lohmann instructs his men to intensify their search and to check the records of recently released psychiatric patients, to look for those with a history of violence against children. They stage frequent raids to question known criminals, disrupting underworld business so badly that Der Schränker (The Safecracker) calls a meeting of the city's crime lords. They decide to organize their own manhunt, using beggars to watch the children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_(1931_film)Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hapalong Cassidy, @a Newsreader
“Conspiracy Theory: There is substantial cooperation between street people, criminals and the police.”
In the final season of the Sopranos, Tony found that a good way to get FBI heat off of him was to provide them with info on potential terrorists.
https://www.rt.com/usa/323032-mafia-isis-warning-gambino/
Partly hateful today with a chance of backlash.
(Climate of hate.)
One of these bombs was outside my old office. Very jarring.
In order to gain entry to an airplane, we now must remove shoes, belts, etc…
Prediction, public trash receptacles will become a thing of the past if this keeps up. Must not stop immigration from Islamic lands.
Actually they are already disappearing!Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Acting like that was ridiculous and suggesting it as a solution at the same time.
It was weird to watch
Strange typo in NY Times article on the Afghan (who could have seen this coming?) bomber:
“The city’s police commissioner, James O’Neill, directed the entire patrol force of the New York Police Department – 36,0000 officers – to step up their vigilance and be on the alert for Mr. Rahami.”
Thank God that NY has 36,0000 officers keeping our vibrancy safe. A few more incidents like this and they’ll need 36,00000 officers to assist the dumpster divers.
He’s just a hipster with a neckbeard. Probably one of those alt-right guys.
Ahmad Khan Rahimi. Why, that’s the kind of all-American name you’d find in a Mark Twain or Nathaniel Hawthorn novel.
Or on a list of donors to Trump's campaign.
Replies: @reiner Tor, @Bill Jones, @Percy Gryce, @Buzz Mohawk, @PiltdownMan, @Big Bill
From the New York Times updates
The elder Rahami outdid himself in picking a name for his restaurant that proved his patriotism. Too bad about the bomber son.
But wait, there’s another son, alas, now departed from these shores.
The difference in his mind is which is the noun, which the adjective. Pashto or whatever is no doubt a language where the adjective - chicken, always comes first.Try "Chicken Americans Fried First"
I live 2 towns over from Elizabeth, in the past, when this country was 90% white, Elizabeth was considered an important city in the NY/NJ area. Immigration has turned it into magnet which attracts the derelicts of society. Now Elizabeth is just a big welfare office and black hole for county taxes, where county citizens are forced to go for jury duty. Just one town over, the population goes from majority non-white to white, and my town nearly all white and upper middle class. What happened to this great country? Are we and our children going to baby sit this mess?Replies: @stillCARealist, @hhsiii, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag, @Anon, @Neoconned
“babysit this mess”. Yes, that’s exactly how I felt the last two times I was called for jury duty. One was blacks ripping each other off and the other was Mexicans ripping each other off. Both were sophisticated enough crimes that they were going to jury trial (which I guess is good that the authorities actually have to prove something) and nice white people were going to have to make a call.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2016/09/16/the-new-clintonkaine-campaign-book-is-just-deplorable/?hpid=hp_special-topic-chain_clintonkaine-630a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.1cf48fc9ca74Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Barnard
The reviewer sounds like he is ready for a career change.
Also OT:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/19/hank-paulson-clinton-is-best-chance-for-compromise-on-structural-reforms.html
I’m thinking Trump could use this to his advantage. His surrogates should force Hillary to denounce Hank Paulson like he is forced to denounce David Duke. The next person to interview Bernie should ask him what he thinks about making common cause with Paulson to get Hillary elected.
I live 2 towns over from Elizabeth, in the past, when this country was 90% white, Elizabeth was considered an important city in the NY/NJ area. Immigration has turned it into magnet which attracts the derelicts of society. Now Elizabeth is just a big welfare office and black hole for county taxes, where county citizens are forced to go for jury duty. Just one town over, the population goes from majority non-white to white, and my town nearly all white and upper middle class. What happened to this great country? Are we and our children going to baby sit this mess?Replies: @stillCARealist, @hhsiii, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag, @Anon, @Neoconned
Yeah, I have a friend from Berkeley Heights, NJ, also Union County. He’s a total SJW (well, consisting mostly of shilling for Hillary and knocking right-wingers on facebook), works for Google as a writer. That town is about 1.5% black and I recall him saying he didn’t think he went to school with any blacks.
Union County. Not to be confused with Union City, which is in Hudson and at least has a Blondie song to call its own. Elizabeth can’t be a total tax black hole, though. Isn’t Port Elizabeth there, and part of Newark airport? Oh well, I don’t know what the tax base is like, but certainly its residents must be a net negative.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081687/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkQWQnGztmM
Steve has not reviewed it. In fact, I think it's strange that considering how many films she's done he hasn't reviewed any films she is in...Replies: @Former Darfur
Blame Harambe.
I live 2 towns over from Elizabeth, in the past, when this country was 90% white, Elizabeth was considered an important city in the NY/NJ area. Immigration has turned it into magnet which attracts the derelicts of society. Now Elizabeth is just a big welfare office and black hole for county taxes, where county citizens are forced to go for jury duty. Just one town over, the population goes from majority non-white to white, and my town nearly all white and upper middle class. What happened to this great country? Are we and our children going to baby sit this mess?Replies: @stillCARealist, @hhsiii, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag, @Anon, @Neoconned
Given population trends, yes. Whites births are a slight minority now. Combine that with even modest immigration and whites will be a minority in a generation or two with things going downhill from there. That’s baked in the pie, not some WN silliness.
I love Steve and all the rest around here, but the game is over. The other team is just running out the clock, and we have no time-outs.
Naturally, I hope Trump wins, but his victory will more a moral victory than a substantive one. He’s not going to stop all immigration. He’s not going to allow whites the right to freedom of association. He’s not going to acknowledge biological differences.
No. We’re on our way to some combo of Texas/New Mexico/ California/Mexico and Brazil. That’s guaranteed.
The real question is what comes next for whites. Slow death like in South Africa, or will we wake up. Who knows? Our current attitude points to the former but our history points to the latter.
Either way, history will marvel at what we have done to ourselves. I honestly think that they won’t believe it and will make up all kinds of false theories as to how we reached this point. I mean, if I wasn’t witnessing it myself, I wouldn’t believe that a people would do this to themselves. No way. It’s ridiculous.
How quickly and violently will the reaction be? And a White minority and a huge non-White welfare majority is a recipe for violent enserfdom of every remaining productive White male and a violent fight by said White males to kick out the non-Whites so the money goes to THEM.
Brazil and South Africa "survive" by no real welfare spending and privatization of nearly everything. Even in the US that's not possible; Germany has riots in the east precisely because of the welfare spending, not in spite of it. East Germans want the money all for themselves, not foreigners from the ME. That was the impetus for Brexit votes in the North of England as well.
There really is no place to run to; so the question is how to survive when half the Third World demands your every centavo for their welfare.
What is silly is believing that "anti-whites" purposely destroyed the greatness of America with their immigration policies, considering throughout American history immigrants have been a critical link to our prosperity both financially and culturally. Furthermore, white Americans are able to live wherever they choose and associate with whomever they want. If you don't want to live among non-whites, there are a number of neighborhoods to chose from. Moreover, there is still immense debate regarding the extent of research about what biological differences means between the races. The cult of HbDers is no different in their approach to insisting their side is the unadulterated truth compared to feminists.
"No. We’re on our way to some combo of Texas/New Mexico/ California/Mexico and Brazil. That’s guaranteed."
No, that's not guaranteed. That is speculation. The same sort of attitudes were expressed by nativists when the Irish "infiltrated" America in the 1850's, that the United States would become a "Catholic cesspool".
I live 2 towns over from Elizabeth, in the past, when this country was 90% white, Elizabeth was considered an important city in the NY/NJ area. Immigration has turned it into magnet which attracts the derelicts of society. Now Elizabeth is just a big welfare office and black hole for county taxes, where county citizens are forced to go for jury duty. Just one town over, the population goes from majority non-white to white, and my town nearly all white and upper middle class. What happened to this great country? Are we and our children going to baby sit this mess?Replies: @stillCARealist, @hhsiii, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag, @Anon, @Neoconned
Much of public policy is an experiment.
We are seeing what recent experiments have wrought.
There are ways to fix things if we can get the mad scientists out of the glass booth.
Rahami’s family is the standard amalgam of loser rejects typical for Muslims. NY Times reports that suspect’s father ran 24 hour fried chicken joint that attracted unsavory clientele (Elizabeth is 20% black, 60% Hispanic) and was magnet for trouble, so much so that city council enacted ordinance requiring joint to close by 10pm (which Rahami family ignored anyway).
The family fought cops trying to enforce 10pm closing rule and eventually sued police and city claiming (what else ?) Discrimination. What pashtun phrase for “flushing the toilet”? Just as Fidel Castro did in Mariel boat lift, seems like Afghans have done to us .
There must be at least 10 different iSteve themes in this nyt story.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/magazine/27-million-potential-hispanic-votes-but-what-will-they-really-add-up-to.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
"Through all my conversations, I began to fear that the real roots of political engagement, which lie not in quadrennial outreach programs but around dinner tables and in churches and classrooms, are far more absent from Latino life in America than most people understand."Replies: @SPMoore8
Why should Hispanics vote? It sets up an alert for taxes, jury duty, and all sorts of other stuff. Being under the radar means being under the radar. It’s safer there.
I’m from Elizabeth NJ, and at one time I lived on Linden Avenue which is by a park. It was quiet, peaceful, beautiful. This is so sad.
Tl;dr: hwyte ppl are just as dangerous as mooslimsReplies: @bomag
Unsaid here is that people are a whole lot more comfortable reporting suspicious White people vs. suspicious Muslims, thanks to the usual political pressure applied by CNN etc.
What Dean Obeidallah et al will never understand is the numbers. There are roughtly 100 million White guys in the US, compared to roughly 1 million guys in the Muslim bombing cohort. So if you have some compelling need to further cram more people into your country, maybe one should draw from the less troubling cohort.
There’s a twitter meme of a cartoon newsreader – “We must take care not to jump to hasty conclusions, * long pause * …. aaaannd it’s Muslims”
Such assimilation–peaceful and law-abiding.
So what you’re telling is me is that they were already enriching our diversity with their wonderful foreign cuisine?
http://biblehub.com/nasb/genesis/25.htm
23The LORD said to her,
“Two nations are in your womb;
And two peoples will be separated from your body;
And one people shall be stronger than the other;
And the older shall serve the younger.”
24When her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb. 25Now the first came forth red, all over like a hairy garment; and they named him Esau. 26Afterward his brother came forth with his hand holding on to Esau’s heel, so his name was called Jacob; and Isaac was sixty years old when she gave birth to them.
27When the boys grew up, Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the field, but Jacob was a peaceful man, living in tents. 28Now Isaac loved Esau, because he had a taste for game, but Rebekah loved Jacob. 29When Jacob had cooked stew, Esau came in from the field and he was famished; 30and Esau said to Jacob, “Please let me have a swallow of that red stuff there, for I am famished.” Therefore his name was called Edom. 31But Jacob said, “First sell me your birthright.” 32Esau said, “Behold, I am about to die; so of what use then is the birthright to me?” 33And Jacob said, “First swear to me”; so he swore to him, and sold his birthright to Jacob. 34Then Jacob gave Esau bread and lentil stew; and he ate and drank, and rose and went on his way. Thus Esau despised his birthright.
I fed my family for 5 years by dumpster diving. We ate like kings.
You can find out more about this survival tactic by reading “The Art and Science of Dumpster Diving”.
It's great if you set a few ground rules and are gutsy enough to stand up to the inevitable bullying.
N.B. I have no criminal record. I never stole or panhandled. The only law I might have broken was simple trespass. I camped out in the woods on campus property. The campus police knew this and would check on me to make sure I was safe.
One friend went for months without spending any money at all on food. We just collected certain items from grocery store dumpsters that looked clean enough to be safe. He never got sick.
Another thing was collecting Al cans for recycling. We dug in trash cans for those to fund our beer money.
Suspect in custody:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/chelsea-blast-suspect/
President Obama made a short statement this morning, similar to the statement he makes after every Muslim atrocity, advising us “not to give into our fears.”
Muslim attacks: don’t give into your fears.
Attacks blamed on the right wing: give into your fears.
The “don’t give into your fears” advice makes sense in a situation where you need to remain calm and take appropriate steps; for example, in the event the airplane loses cabin pressure, put on the oxygen mask that will drop from above and do so yourself before putting one on your child. Makes sense. But in many other situation, you are advised to give into your fears, or at least accord your fear serious consideration. Were Jews who chose to flee Germany in 1934 giving into their fears or making an astute assessment of their risks?
Gavin de Becker wrote an excellent book, The Gift of Fear, which explains how important it is to pay attention to the signals your fear is giving you. I would recommend to anyone, despite the author’s political correctness that prevents him from making some obvious points. (Derbyshire’s “Talk,” also, First Rule of Gunfighting: Have a gun.)
When Obama disingenuously says “don’t give into your fears,” all he means is a.) Don’t point fingers at the Muslims, b.) Don’t start questioning my decision to bring tens of thousands more Muslims here, and c.) Don’t you dare think that Trump’s Muslim ban makes a lot of sense.
In light of the Jersey Shore (Seaside, NJ) connection:
Well, they blew up the Chicken Man in Philly last night, now blew up his house too”
Rest easy, citizen. The Department of Homeless Security is on the job.
Dadgum Lutherans …
Attacks blamed on the right wing: give into your fears.The "don't give into your fears" advice makes sense in a situation where you need to remain calm and take appropriate steps; for example, in the event the airplane loses cabin pressure, put on the oxygen mask that will drop from above and do so yourself before putting one on your child. Makes sense. But in many other situation, you are advised to give into your fears, or at least accord your fear serious consideration. Were Jews who chose to flee Germany in 1934 giving into their fears or making an astute assessment of their risks?Gavin de Becker wrote an excellent book, The Gift of Fear, which explains how important it is to pay attention to the signals your fear is giving you. I would recommend to anyone, despite the author's political correctness that prevents him from making some obvious points. (Derbyshire's "Talk," also, First Rule of Gunfighting: Have a gun.)When Obama disingenuously says "don't give into your fears," all he means is a.) Don't point fingers at the Muslims, b.) Don't start questioning my decision to bring tens of thousands more Muslims here, and c.) Don't you dare think that Trump's Muslim ban makes a lot of sense.Replies: @Bugg
Remember, we cannot possibly prejudge all Muslims by the awful actions of a few of them, unlike the deplorables like typical white persons, legal gun owners, cops and Donald Trump and his supporters, all of whom are evil people. And if we bad mouth Muslims in any way or discuss it’s culture of death, violence and barbarism, it creates more Islamic terrorism, so do not do that. But Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Islam ever. Uh….wait, what?
newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/chelsea-blast-suspect/
Last sentence: “he seemed like a nice guy.” De Blahsio and Obama sound like such epic-fail tools. It is cringe-worthy to listen to them pontificating.
The linked Fox News article does not mention that the men who discovered the bomb are homeless. I had to do a “homeless bomb” news search to find other articles stating they are homeless.
Every bomb should have a home.
Don’t push this meme too far, or we’ll be on tap for the Department of Homeless Security, with a $34 billion a year budget, thousands of new pensions, and a grandiose HQ built under a Beltway overpass.
We’ve been having a lot of fun around these parts the past few weeks. Nothing like a few bombs going off to remind us of the stakes.
I’m starting to feel like the tank commander Telly Savalas played in the Battle of the Bulge:
“When are you gonna let us fight?!”
>the NY Times on the bomb story was something to the effect that whether the bomber was a Muslim or a white supremacist, either way it would be Trump’s fault. Whoever wrote the comment was hoping against hope that it would be a white guy
I doubt we will see another White goy terrorist (i.e. acting with racial motives e.g. Dylann Roof) again for a while*. I think the youth(ish) wing of the alt-right is preventing real domestic White terrorism from happening. If Roof had found (e.g.) therightstuff.biz and he would have realized he was far from alone, and many people would have explained to him how counter-productive it would be to shoot up a black church. Instead of lashing out, he would have started laughing at blacks and mocking liberals and shitposting, etc.
*Assuming we continue down the present path of slow-mo collapse. If things get worse fast, then we might see it. Also, more insane (i.e. MK ULTRA e.g. Sandy Hook, CO movie theater) people who happen to be White, are a possibility, but that’s a totally different thing.
They caught the suspect after a shoot out with the cops.
The suspect was wounded.
If this doesn’t show how racist American cops are, merely wounding a terrorist suspect while happily gunning down black bodies for nuffin dey dindu anyway, I don’t don’t know what does…
I had to do a “homeless bomb” news search ……
Every bomb should have a home.
America’s bums are the best force to stop terrorists. Taking reasonable, logical steps like letting in only skilled, intelligent, extremely vetted immigrants is not who we are. Therefore, we must be vigilant and build the apparatus of a police surveillance state while simultaneously letting in millions more people from countries we have bombed for half a generation.
The media, which so protects Hillary, would do well by her to stop playing her first comments about the bombs and the stabbing. She sounds like a wind up doll, in the slow process of breaking down. Except for the seriousness of it all, it has a comedic element.
Well Hillary didn’t get the message. Earlier today she had a presser and said Trump is giving aid and comfort to these terrorists. So she appears to be baiting Trump into a response which means this news cycle will be extended. I don’t see this working out well for Hillary.
That’s funny! Obama’s economic policy is confronting his immigration policy.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/chelsea-blast-suspect/Replies: @Langley
“Lucky it was bombs.”
Chris Hayes has our backs:
http://twitchy.com/loriz-3139/2016/09/19/omg-chris-hayes-is-literally-defending-terrorist-bomb-attempts-because-not-guns/
USA! USA! USA!
This guy was a naturalized citizen so he may hav already mailed in a ballot for this election.
Piltdown, this is another of several glaring examples of how bad it has gotten for Illary. See, this is actually pro-Illary spin; her book sales aren’t in the toilet because everyone hates Illary, oh no – they’re in the toilet because the book is bad. This is like using “pneumonia” to cover for whatever’s actually killing her, or “look, a frog!”
Replies: @reiner Tor, @Bill Jones, @Percy Gryce, @Buzz Mohawk, @PiltdownMan, @Big Bill
“Could have been any of our kids”. Yeah. I read Roth’s American Pastoral, too.
O/T but of interest to iSteve readers, a new essay:
A Race to the “Rational”
The Pseudo-Scientific Roots of Racism in Classical Antiquity
https://eidolon.pub/a-race-to-the-rational-70e06cf46c1e#.vu96umr4l
Chris Hayes:
“Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.”
YT should not “give in to his fears” and eject Muslims.
But YT should also not blame blackie for “giving into his fears” and reflexively running from po-po. I would add that blacks are not advised not to “give in to their fears” in this way, except, the media obviously considers blacks devoid of agency, and advises them of nothing (unless they were already doing it enthusiastically).
Just killing rats in the dumpsters.
bomber is naturalized citizen from Afghanistan. His family had issues with local government over hours of operation of their restaurant, “All American fried chicken” http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/19/police-capture-ahmad-khan-rahami-suspect-ny-nj-bombings/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
Not for the first time, Hillary herself is indistinguishable from the Hillary PR Team parody account.
If one has the misfortune of having to live in any of the conurbations of the American Northeast one dreads nothing more than having one of these ethnic eateries (Chicken Joint, Latino Bodega, Chinese takeout, Halal truck) open up on one’s street or around the corner. Whatever meager quality of life one was clinging to is completely lost with their arrival: litter, foul odors, petty crime, drunkenness, loud ethnic music blasted through outdoor speakers, petty nuisances, public urination. The works. If anything good will come out of this bombing it will be the intense scrutiny of Rahami’s family which may compel them to shut down the restaurant, bringing more than a bit of relief to the restaurant’s neighbors.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s5DnESRMUs8
“The elder Rahami outdid himself in picking a name for his restaurant that proved his patriotism. ”
You are insufficiently cynical.
He managed to get chicken and American into the name.
The difference in his mind is which is the noun, which the adjective.
Pashto or whatever is no doubt a language where the adjective – chicken, always comes first.
Try “Chicken Americans Fried First”
https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/639151540020846592 In the attached video I tell US Sen. Ted Cruz that the 1965 Immigration Act wiped out the Republican Party in California. I also tell Cruz that the 1965 Immigration Act made the Obama presidency possible. Cruz gets bent out of shape a bit when I suggest he has crawled into bed with Obama on mass immigration and trade deal scams. Trump is going to smash the hell out of Hillary on immigration in the debates. It is going to be great fun. Sailer needs to start dropping hints about debate strategy; Sailer’s suggestions will get to the Trump campaign.
Not sure whether this is on the same story, but this is currently the top rated “reader’s pick” comment, as well as a NY Times pick, and it’s actually pretty interesting to read:
I have a hunch there may be a lot of that exhaustion going around.
Link to story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html
(Much closer to ‘New: Oldest’ than Newest) “Amanda M.” comments:Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
The Caddyshack reference is appropriate. Donald Trump’s campaign can be compared to Dangerfield’s entrance into the WASP’s last cultural space. Reverse the ethnicity, obviously. 🙂
“He was a nice boy overall, though; the worst thing he could be accused of were taking part in a few innocent gasoline fights.”**
** ZOOLANDER joke
The problem with your argument, Sailer, is that you try to use the actions of literally 0.001% of Muslims to justify blocking 100% of Muslims getting into the country. Your argument is asinine.
Following your faulty logic, all people of British descent should be expelled from the country and no immigration from the British Islands should be allowed because Timothy McVeigh, an Anglo-Saxon, bombed a federal building and killed over 160 people – far more than all Muslim terrorist attacks in America over the past 10 years combined, and only less lethal than the 9/11 attack.
You want to deny a better life in America for millions of Muslims based on the actions of an extremely small number of rotten apples. One of the most fundamental principles of law and jurisprudence is that individual guilt is not transferable. This goes back to the trial of Robespierre in the French Revolution, and is one of the most cardinal principles of the Enlightnment and Western Civilization. But you want to simply trump(pun intended) over that and make innocent people pay for crimes they never committed. How can anyone with a conscience reading your argument not take you for a cruel, unfair and discriminatory person?
The solution for the problem of terrorists entering the country is a more rigorous back ground check over all immigrants from Muslim lands. The CIA should be granted the authority to deny immigration VISA to anyone from Muslim countries or of Muslim religion. Furthermore, Society should uphold the good, industrious Muslims as examples, and make every effort to see them reach the upper strata among their people.
There is a community of Muslims living in France since the 17th century that never caused any problems. They were assimilated, made to adept to French culture – except Christianity – and uphold to the same rigour of law as any Frenchmen if they commit crimes. The problems caused by Muslims in France now are by non-assimilated Muslims that arrived in France over the past 2 generations fom former French colonies like Algeria. There ARE many peaceful Muslims, and Muslims CAN be assimilated.
What America needs to do is to take in more Muslims and not less; however, these Muslims needs to be selected for moral probity and industriousness.
What right do we have to deprive their home countries of their most industrious and conscientious members? Aren't those the very ones those home countries need to ameliorate the obscene level of inequality between those countries and your own? Come on now Nick, how greedy can you get? For shame!
it is possible for the white population to remain above 50% until the next century if Trump reduces immigration and the white fertility rates gets above replacement levels.
a moratorium on immigration would help tremendously, as it would buy us more time. Slowing down immigration will result in more assimilation, which can occur with some immigrants. Many of the hispanic immigrants are 70% white genetically, half consider themselves white and 20% of hispanics today marry whites.......if this rate increases to 25% the 50 million hispanics in American today 25% of their grandchildren will be more white than mestizo.
Evil American Capitalists need to stop stealing the genius of the third world in a sort of reverse colonialism!
Even if they went to Harvard or MIT we can muddle along with local talent... And they can go and leven and enrich their homelands
".. the name is in addition to Scotland, quite numerous in North East Ulster. It is found in a wide variety of spellings which include McVeigh, McVaugh, McVagh, McVaugh, McVey, McBey, McVie and McVeagh. Its probable place of origin was in the Scottish Islands of Mull and Islay"
so probably "Scotch-Irish", in your baroque terminology.
Its clear you really have no personal integrity whatsoever. What a sad way to spend a life.
How can anyone with a brain read your "arguments" and not take you for cruel, unfair, and brainlessly egalitarian fool that you clearly are.
Including people out to make the money go further. I would happily consign every single Muslim to the outer wastes of Pluto if it made my life 2 cents better. I owe them nothing and admire nothing about them. I suspect my attitudes are in this respect anyway typical of most White people, who find Muslims detestable in every thing about them. This is separate from moral status mongering.
If the US got rid of every Muslim inside the US presently, there would be a net increase of at least $1,000 in every ordinary person's pocket. The level of fraud, terror related costs, and just general jihad costs that much.
And I sure could use that thousand smackers.
Your most ultra hipster moral preener would happily shoot every Muslim he saw for a new MacBook Pro. Bear that one in mind.
Ridiculous. We don't need them. They will change this country for the worse. They offer nothing of sufficient value to justify the hassle of importing them.
You know, there's a number of folks who don't want millions more of anyone coming here, whether Muslims, Anglos, Chinese, or Swedes. There's enough people in this country. And there's enough high IQ people in this country. Some of us don't want this whole country to turn into one big port town, ya dig? Try that one on.
That comment, and its high recommend rate by the NY Times commentariat, may be the sound of the tide turning.
Japan now seems to be going down the globalism path:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/japans-prime-minister-in-waiting-trades-nationalism-for-globalism/2016/09/18/2c17abc2-7c3a-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.4693e97c1e58
Maybe they will import lots of foreign playboys and playgirls for all those virgins in Japan.
Japan is a nice place to live. A lot of non-Asian people would love to live there. Yet one of the reasons it's such a great place to live is because it's so uniquely Japanese.
Japan is small enough that it could conceivably open up its immigration system while simultaneously enforcing high standards that would ensure it only gets the cream of potential applicants -- and that those who are accepted are firmly committed to assimilation. If any country could figure out how to get this to work, it would be Japan.Replies: @scrivener3, @Daniel H, @melendwyr, @unit472
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Yes, let’s hope. The leftist politicians and the media were just setting themselves up for almost certain failure with the denials of what was almost sure to be true from the 1st moment (not only couldn’t we say that it was a Muslim terrorist bombing, but apparently even calling it a bombing was lacking in virtue). It’s great to virtue signal by “not jumping to conclusions” (like that hothead Trump) and keeping alive the slim hope (fantasy) that THIS time it would be a white Christian KKKer or an explosion set off by an evil chemical co. executive or something that the writers of Law & Order could imagine, but if the conclusion jumpers turn out to be right every time and the virtue signalers keep losing not just the ball game but every single point, at some point you might decide you want to be on the conclusion jumper team after all.
Prediction, public trash receptacles will become a thing of the past if this keeps up. Must not stop immigration from Islamic lands.Replies: @eD, @Je Suis Charlie Martel
“Prediction, public trash receptacles will become a thing of the past if this keeps up. ”
Actually they are already disappearing!
Coming soon to a city near you, or why we can't have not just nice things anymore, but even ordinary things like trash cans. ...
I love Steve and all the rest around here, but the game is over. The other team is just running out the clock, and we have no time-outs.
Naturally, I hope Trump wins, but his victory will more a moral victory than a substantive one. He's not going to stop all immigration. He's not going to allow whites the right to freedom of association. He's not going to acknowledge biological differences.
No. We're on our way to some combo of Texas/New Mexico/ California/Mexico and Brazil. That's guaranteed.
The real question is what comes next for whites. Slow death like in South Africa, or will we wake up. Who knows? Our current attitude points to the former but our history points to the latter.
Either way, history will marvel at what we have done to ourselves. I honestly think that they won't believe it and will make up all kinds of false theories as to how we reached this point. I mean, if I wasn't witnessing it myself, I wouldn't believe that a people would do this to themselves. No way. It's ridiculous.Replies: @Desiderius, @Whiskey, @Corvinus
They’re not doing it to themselves, they’re doing it to us.
Truly impressive.
Let’s not jump to conclus–
…aaaand it’s Muslims.
How many millions are we talking, Nick – a thousand? three? They’re making plenty to go around.
What right do we have to deprive their home countries of their most industrious and conscientious members? Aren’t those the very ones those home countries need to ameliorate the obscene level of inequality between those countries and your own? Come on now Nick, how greedy can you get? For shame!
FBI fails to foil any attacks they are not behind.
Diaz = Tiny Duck +2SD
ND is a half-wit who actually believes what he's saying.
Diaz = Tiny Duck -2SDReplies: @Abe, @Desiderius
If 3,000 Blacks are killed in Chicago every year
How do you come up with this figure? It’s 500 or so lately.
Holding guns wrong.
That is colonialism you twit. Taking the most morally upright and industrious people form the muslim world is nothing less than resurrecting the old practice of resource extraction that colonial powers used in the past. Only now you would have us extract their human resources.
How are the muslim nations to develop and grow if you take away their best and brightest? I can’t believe this is coming from y0u given your supposed sympathy with the oppressed peoples of the world.
I doubt we will see another White goy terrorist (i.e. acting with racial motives e.g. Dylann Roof) again for a while*. I think the youth(ish) wing of the alt-right is preventing real domestic White terrorism from happening. If Roof had found (e.g.) therightstuff.biz and he would have realized he was far from alone, and many people would have explained to him how counter-productive it would be to shoot up a black church. Instead of lashing out, he would have started laughing at blacks and mocking liberals and shitposting, etc.
*Assuming we continue down the present path of slow-mo collapse. If things get worse fast, then we might see it. Also, more insane (i.e. MK ULTRA e.g. Sandy Hook, CO movie theater) people who happen to be White, are a possibility, but that's a totally different thing.Replies: @sayless, @Daniel Williams
Hillary’s alt-right speech was a godsend to many young people, I hope. I really do. The alt-right has given my 26-year-old French nephew some hope for the future, as well as some much-needed laughter.
Only a matter of time until Americans have to go through security check-points—beltless and barefoot— just to take out the trash.
If they suddenly voted in bloc-like fashion for the GOP, the left would question allowing them in.
Sounds like a good way to concern-troll NYT readers.
We need Afghans to sell fried chicken? Why isn’t this crummy Islamic family denounced for ‘cultural appropriation’?
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/09/18/venezuela-15-percent-eat-garbage-survival/Replies: @Kylie
Lol!
“If 3,000 Blacks are killed in Chicago every year from primarily Black-on-Black violence (and this rate continues), 150,000 Black will have been killed in 50 years in one Black community in one city.”
Your figure is too large. However, the number of blacks severely disabled by shootings might be equal to the number of dead. More like 1,000.
3/4 of Blacks killed in Chicago are not only in gangs but also on the SSL or strategic subject list. 1400 who comprise most of the perpetrators and most of the victims of shootings. Plus a few Latinos.
This could be considered ‘suicide like’ behavior. A lot of white males die from handgun as a method of suicide. This is not meant to be an literal equivalence — just why there is a sense of resignation among ghetto blacks about their homicide epidemic. White suicide isn’t considered a social problem, it is considered a mental health issue and a personal tragedy.
There does seem to be a distinction in the black community between gang members killing each other and ‘innocent’ victims, hit by accident or unintended targets.
This might seem odd, but the BLM victims tended to be *not* on the SSL or equivalent. I see them as criminals and not innocent. But there is a distinction that I think is invisible to whites. Or it was to me.
As far as whats really going on in Chicago, if you assume that there is some sort of retaliation constant — maybe 1/4 to 3/4 — for every gang killing — then you can consider that with heavy police involvement, maybe they can reduce retaliation killings to reduce the ratio — but if they are less aggressive? Then you have your 2 fold increase in homicides.
The single best thing that I have seen is that the SSL does not use any demographic data. Nor does it use geography. Its based on gang membership and contact with police, I believe. The exact formula isn’t disclose.
I would be surprised if a single white person is on the list. It gets at race, but does so in a way that also targets all the predictive variables. it is silly to even talk about homicide in Chicago and ignore race. But this is a good enough proxy to at least say something reasonable. The police superintendent is very anxious to talk about it, since it indicates that this is nothing for regular people to worry themselves over — its just gangsters killing each other.
However, gang members aren’t a special outlaw class. Exactly, anyway. They are members of the community. The sons, fathers, etc. of community members that aren’t criminal. The only real solution is to depopulate black ghetto like neighborhoods in cities. It is already happening, as blacks that show any agency have voted with their feet and moved out.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/japans-prime-minister-in-waiting-trades-nationalism-for-globalism/2016/09/18/2c17abc2-7c3a-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.4693e97c1e58
Maybe they will import lots of foreign playboys and playgirls for all those virgins in Japan.Replies: @Mr. Blank, @5371
I’ve often wondered if Japan could eventually be a test case for a responsible first-world immigration policy. (One that is not an effective moratorium, I mean.)
Japan is a nice place to live. A lot of non-Asian people would love to live there. Yet one of the reasons it’s such a great place to live is because it’s so uniquely Japanese.
Japan is small enough that it could conceivably open up its immigration system while simultaneously enforcing high standards that would ensure it only gets the cream of potential applicants — and that those who are accepted are firmly committed to assimilation. If any country could figure out how to get this to work, it would be Japan.
Japan is an overcrowded, densely populated Island. The landmass is about the size of California (Japan pop. 127 million, California 38 million), but 73 percent of the area is uninhabitable mountain terrain. The last thing Japan needs is a single immigrant.
Why should they use their nation as a guinea pig in a way that doesn't benefit themselves at all from their perspective?
“Ahmad Khan Rahimi. Why, that’s the kind of all-American name you’d find in a Mark Twain or Nathaniel Hawthorn novel.”
Or on a list of donors to Trump’s campaign.
OT – did Hillary’s email guy (who took the Fifth IIRC) go on reddit asking how to delete emails?
And now on The Hill: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/296680-house-panel-probes-web-rumor-on-clinton-emailsReplies: @Anonymous Nephew
I was a homeless dumpster diver. I ate so well on the street that I actually put on weight.
It’s great if you set a few ground rules and are gutsy enough to stand up to the inevitable bullying.
N.B. I have no criminal record. I never stole or panhandled. The only law I might have broken was simple trespass. I camped out in the woods on campus property. The campus police knew this and would check on me to make sure I was safe.
A Trump administration may well reduce Immigration from the current 3 million per year to 2 million per year. It will certainly help, but white Americans need to increase their fertility above 1.6 back over 2.1 to give White Americans any hope.
it is possible for the white population to remain above 50% until the next century if Trump reduces immigration and the white fertility rates gets above replacement levels.
a moratorium on immigration would help tremendously, as it would buy us more time. Slowing down immigration will result in more assimilation, which can occur with some immigrants. Many of the hispanic immigrants are 70% white genetically, half consider themselves white and 20% of hispanics today marry whites…….if this rate increases to 25% the 50 million hispanics in American today 25% of their grandchildren will be more white than mestizo.
TD is just LARPing as a leftie troll.
ND is a half-wit who actually believes what he’s saying.
Diaz = Tiny Duck -2SD
ND has a way with the pen, he's just been chasing the road-runner so hard he hasn't noticed the ground is no longer under his feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd_41tM6H2Y&list=PLL3uNn7f3npgkXGEU71mZSlb31vki3v-J&index=5
“you want to deny a better life in America for millions of Muslims”
Whereas you are in favour of a worse life (and many nasty deaths) in America for hundreds of millions of Americans.
The only back Chris Hayes has is his boyfriend’s.
Not that there is anything wrong with that . . .
Actually they are already disappearing!Replies: @Jim Don Bob
I went to London for the first time in 2010 and was struck by the c0mpete absence of trash cans around St Paul’s cathedral and all the trash on the ground. Turns out the cans were removed years ago because the IRA kept putting bombs in them.
Coming soon to a city near you, or why we can’t have not just nice things anymore, but even ordinary things like trash cans. …
How do you come up with this figure? It's 500 or so lately.Replies: @Langley, @stillCARealist
3,000 Blacks shot in Chicago this year.
Holding guns wrong.
Nope. Those talented Muslims need to stay in their homelands and serve their fellows to make their countries great (again or for the first time).
Evil American Capitalists need to stop stealing the genius of the third world in a sort of reverse colonialism!
Even if they went to Harvard or MIT we can muddle along with local talent… And they can go and leven and enrich their homelands
Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage:
http://biblehub.com/nasb/genesis/25.htm
23The LORD said to her,
“Two nations are in your womb;
And two peoples will be separated from your body;
And one people shall be stronger than the other;
And the older shall serve the younger.”
24When her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb. 25Now the first came forth red, all over like a hairy garment; and they named him Esau. 26Afterward his brother came forth with his hand holding on to Esau’s heel, so his name was called Jacob; and Isaac was sixty years old when she gave birth to them.
27When the boys grew up, Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the field, but Jacob was a peaceful man, living in tents. 28Now Isaac loved Esau, because he had a taste for game, but Rebekah loved Jacob. 29When Jacob had cooked stew, Esau came in from the field and he was famished; 30and Esau said to Jacob, “Please let me have a swallow of that red stuff there, for I am famished.” Therefore his name was called Edom. 31But Jacob said, “First sell me your birthright.” 32Esau said, “Behold, I am about to die; so of what use then is the birthright to me?” 33And Jacob said, “First swear to me”; so he swore to him, and sold his birthright to Jacob. 34Then Jacob gave Esau bread and lentil stew; and he ate and drank, and rose and went on his way. Thus Esau despised his birthright.
Of course it’s Trump’s fault. Everyone knows that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam. Hillary even tweeted it. She also tweeted that terrorists are praying to Allah that Trump would get elected. See? It’s Trump’s fault.
True, but you can’t con an honest man. The Japanese don’t feel the need to import millions of 3rd World immigrants. We may be getting nudged (hell, even pushed), but we’re still letting it happen.
My suspicion is that HBD Chick may be right; NW Europeans have been bred for high trust and low clannishness. It was an extraordinarily successful formula for hundreds of years, but modern communication and transport (and a little help from our friends) have turned those advantages into an Achilles Heel. Perhaps whites are undergoing a new breeding process. The highest trusting, least clannish are getting culled from the herd.
Regardless, whatever the cause, whites need to start identifying as a group or we’re heading to the dustbin of history. And I say that as a father of two.
Steve’s comment about The Department of Homeless Security is perhaps the cleverest reaction to a news event I’ve read on the internet in a decade.
“Off hand, I’d say: It’s Trump’s fault.”
Don’t laugh. Hillary, the mayor of London, and Pope Francis just said this.
Btw, I’ve thought that the same thing. I wrote here once that if historians do actually understand what’s going on right now, they will instead marvel that such a tiny group of people could bring down one of the great empires/races that the world has ever scene without firing a shot themselves.
Truly impressive.
Well, they blew up the Chicken Man in Philly last night, now blew up his house too"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3eu1gW-bQ8Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @dr kill
Levon Helm does an excellent version of Atlantic City by Bruce Springsteen — the video is attached……Well the Muslims blew up the Clinton campaign around New York last night — Now the Muslims blew up the Democrat Party too……Trump will pound the snot out of Hillary Clinton on immigration. Hillary Clinton Pushes Mass Immigration — Mass Immigration Brings Islamic Terrorism To The USA.
Japan is a nice place to live. A lot of non-Asian people would love to live there. Yet one of the reasons it's such a great place to live is because it's so uniquely Japanese.
Japan is small enough that it could conceivably open up its immigration system while simultaneously enforcing high standards that would ensure it only gets the cream of potential applicants -- and that those who are accepted are firmly committed to assimilation. If any country could figure out how to get this to work, it would be Japan.Replies: @scrivener3, @Daniel H, @melendwyr, @unit472
As a non-Japanese, you wouldn’t get very far in Japan. So the people who would go to live in Japan are those likely not to get very far in life and be OK with that. For many people in the world, simply living in a crime free first world city and having a bottom rung job is a big step up, but they tend to be poor people with little human capital.
Plus the children of these first generation Japanese immigrants would be mighty pissed off at being second rate citizens for nothing other than what they are, and they would have no experience of the worse conditions their parents came from.
Or you could insist that these non-Japanese have equal opportunity. With that comes quotas, affirmative action, legal suits against native Japanese for discrimination, disparate impact. Then there will be a non-Japanese baseball player refusing to stand for their national anthem.
I don’t agree with this but I will note that the homeless, with their widely differing experience of reality but within the same physical frame as the rest of us, notice and see many things that the rest of us don’t.
One of the more eye opening experiences I’ve had was spending time with a friend who had skidded over years into chronic homelessness. You’d be surprised at how many homeless live lives that are effectively as routine/ordered/ritualized/socialized as any middle class suburbanites, just the environmental factors differ.
"America's bums are the best. We have the best bums!" - Trump.
Well, I wouldn't be. But you're right. Even homeless people who are chronic alcoholics usually have some sort of routine. Others, more functional, often have pretty well-ordered lives.
You might be surprised at how many homeless people have families that would love to help them get off the street. But the homeless refuse to leave.
It's not necessarily a condition to be changed. For some, it's a way of life.
Major ethnographic Fail there, son. Nobody hates and despises the Sassanaich more, except maybe the Welsh.
A correctly lenited variant of “Macbeth”
“.. the name is in addition to Scotland, quite numerous in North East Ulster. It is found in a wide variety of spellings which include McVeigh, McVaugh, McVagh, McVaugh, McVey, McBey, McVie and McVeagh. Its probable place of origin was in the Scottish Islands of Mull and Islay”
so probably “Scotch-Irish”, in your baroque terminology.
NYT: Ahmad Khan Rahami Is Arrested in Manhattan and New Jersey Bombings
(Much closer to ‘New: Oldest’ than Newest) “Amanda M.” comments:
This is a reasoned, but flawed, essay Nick, but why do you keep posting as Tiny Duck?
Dude, it’s not “literally 0.001%.” http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx
And many more. Read it and weep.
Japan is a nice place to live. A lot of non-Asian people would love to live there. Yet one of the reasons it's such a great place to live is because it's so uniquely Japanese.
Japan is small enough that it could conceivably open up its immigration system while simultaneously enforcing high standards that would ensure it only gets the cream of potential applicants -- and that those who are accepted are firmly committed to assimilation. If any country could figure out how to get this to work, it would be Japan.Replies: @scrivener3, @Daniel H, @melendwyr, @unit472
>>Japan is small enough that it could conceivably open up its immigration system
Japan is an overcrowded, densely populated Island. The landmass is about the size of California (Japan pop. 127 million, California 38 million), but 73 percent of the area is uninhabitable mountain terrain. The last thing Japan needs is a single immigrant.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/japans-prime-minister-in-waiting-trades-nationalism-for-globalism/2016/09/18/2c17abc2-7c3a-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.4693e97c1e58
Maybe they will import lots of foreign playboys and playgirls for all those virgins in Japan.Replies: @Mr. Blank, @5371
I wouldn’t worry too much about Japan’s policies changing, such articles appear regularly and never pan out in real life. Certainly if something written by Bloomberg’s Josh Rogin ended up being true, it would be the first time ever that happened in his whole career.
Nick, why do you go back to 1993 when analyzing terror deaths inflicted by whites, but only back to 2002 when analyzing terror deaths inflicted by muslims? Does that seem like an analytically rigorous comparison? Or like an intentionally skewed setup designed to manipulate results that even someone with the most meager scientific training could recognize as a complete sham?
Its clear you really have no personal integrity whatsoever. What a sad way to spend a life.
(Much closer to ‘New: Oldest’ than Newest) “Amanda M.” comments:Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Correction: “closer to All: Oldest” in the comment interface.
I don’t know why I even think of such matters but I bet the in-house lawyers at Dumpster are working overtime.
In order to protect their trade mark they must write to any publication that fails to spell their product’s name with a capital D.
Just try writing and publishing Coke, Band-Aid or Jello in lower case and you will soon be noticed.
I once heard a lawyer at J&J say that if a local paper didn’t stop ignoring his Band-Aid “cease and desist” letters he usually asked the best criminal defense attorney in that community to contact the offender. For some reason that seemed to work.
I want to protect our rights, wealth, Liberty, and future and if that means denying some groups because of the end results of their values, culture, voting habits, actions, etc, so be it.
How can anyone with a brain read your “arguments” and not take you for cruel, unfair, and brainlessly egalitarian fool that you clearly are.
Well, they blew up the Chicken Man in Philly last night, now blew up his house too"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3eu1gW-bQ8Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @dr kill
Hank Williams III does it better
That homeless person should get a medal. They have nothing but saves lives. Better yet, the city should give him an apartment for two years and a stipend. Might encourage more vigilence among our street guards and thus save even more lives.
Prediction, public trash receptacles will become a thing of the past if this keeps up. Must not stop immigration from Islamic lands.Replies: @eD, @Je Suis Charlie Martel
Shepard Smith had a whole thing today “look at the train lines! (Showed a map of subways and trains in Manhattan) Are we going to have airport-like TSA searches now for subways and trains?”
Acting like that was ridiculous and suggesting it as a solution at the same time.
It was weird to watch
I did this for years in the 80’s with friends. we called it “scrounging”. I still have some t-shirts that I got from dumpsters. I rode a bike I scrounged from the McGeorge School of Law dumpster for several years.
One friend went for months without spending any money at all on food. We just collected certain items from grocery store dumpsters that looked clean enough to be safe. He never got sick.
Another thing was collecting Al cans for recycling. We dug in trash cans for those to fund our beer money.
How do you come up with this figure? It's 500 or so lately.Replies: @Langley, @stillCARealist
He means 3,000 SHOT every year. Attempted murder often carries the same penalty as actual murder.
Yes, the reviews are hilarious. She is being trolled unmercifully by real Amazon reviewers.
Here is a sample of the top five rated reviews of the book. They are very funny.
OT, but an interesting article perhaps for Steve to look at. From Vox, called ‘White Riot’:
http://www.vox.com/2016/9/19/12933072/far-right-white-riot-trump-brexit
Ends with the VERY telling line: “The future shouldn’t belong to the Front National and its ilk. It should belong to the people they’re afraid of.”
I.e.: the future should belong to Muslims and other unassimilable immigrants, NOT to the traditional working class of Western countries. Pretty sickening really.
ND is a half-wit who actually believes what he's saying.
Diaz = Tiny Duck -2SDReplies: @Abe, @Desiderius
Personally I think TD is an artificial intelligence computer program developed by Amazon or Google meant to improve automated human language recognition. They let it post on here everyday, evaluate the results, then tune the neural net behind it before letting it post again. Google’s “don’t be evil” policy does not apply to messing with an alt-right discussion board since in its eyes we’re all evil anyway.
“#i’llDumpsterDiveWithYou”
Is that poking fun at the Barack Hussein Obama movie Southside With You?
By the way did Steve ever review that movie?
I doubt we will see another White goy terrorist (i.e. acting with racial motives e.g. Dylann Roof) again for a while*. I think the youth(ish) wing of the alt-right is preventing real domestic White terrorism from happening. If Roof had found (e.g.) therightstuff.biz and he would have realized he was far from alone, and many people would have explained to him how counter-productive it would be to shoot up a black church. Instead of lashing out, he would have started laughing at blacks and mocking liberals and shitposting, etc.
*Assuming we continue down the present path of slow-mo collapse. If things get worse fast, then we might see it. Also, more insane (i.e. MK ULTRA e.g. Sandy Hook, CO movie theater) people who happen to be White, are a possibility, but that's a totally different thing.Replies: @sayless, @Daniel Williams
Yeah, he seemed like a reasonable guy.
“Off hand, I’d say: It’s Trump’s fault.”
Oh, are you done with Bush then ?
The Chinese brought us fireworks
The Mexicans brought us Judas burning
And now the Muslims have brought us exploding dumpsters.Replies: @Bill Jones, @Jim Christian
Exploding dumpsters are fun for the whole family!
“Off hand, I’d say: It’s Trump’s fault.”
Donald Trump is extremely popular among voters named Ahmad, so of course it’s his fault. If you go to a pro-Trump rally it looks like you are in Mecca. It doesn’t look like you are in America anymore.
These are the late majority adopters? If Trump is at 50% and maybe 60-70% of white people, then these would be the late majority.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations
But I think it’s a little more complex than that. If conservatives are an easy sale, liberals are a hard sale. So maybe these are the liberal early adopters or early majority?
Under that model, Steve is definitely an innovator. The early commentors would be innovators, the later would be early adopters. Trump would fit that definition perhaps depending on how long ago he really began the journey. And to his credit, he has been instrumental in peeling off blue collar whites and perhaps talented tenths.
I am not sure how many of us started out as liberals. I started out as a right wing libertarian who bought into the world’s smallest political quiz, helping me to become an atomist open bordersist back in the 1990s. But then 9/11 happened and so did my political awakening. But even during the 1990s I instinctively hated the NYT, I was never a liberal except a brief time when I was maybe 7 years old.
There are some former liberals here, and they have been here a longish time. I think for liberals this is the hardest journey because most of them have a lifetime of self image of being caring, sharing, a nice guy. These people don’t like war (unless waged by a Democrat). These people are like natural spendthrifts in their first economic depression, having to be confronted with reality for the first time, and it has needed to be pretty brutal for them. So maybe the liberals have their own adoption curve that lags the conservative or libertarian curve. And maybe this NYT pick is a liberal early adopter or even an innovator? Kind of like Bill Maher, though not the best example. Maybe SFG from the commentariat.
Trump gave us an anxious alarm and spread fear.
Clinton exhibited steady calm and withheld judgment. She supported local officials, is waiting for investigators at the city, state, and federal levels, and will then assess the findings. That's how it works (and if that's a little boring, we don't need any more panic).
We hunt down criminals methodically after we find them. Slowly, methodically, the administration (Obama and Clinton in the front row) pursued Osama Bin Laden and meted out justice. That's the advantage of asking questions first and shooting later.
Trump shoots from the hip and misses a lot of the time.Replies: @Front toward enemy
Huh?
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/53h8vk/evidence_of_hillarys_it_guy_paul_combetta_asking/Replies: @IHTG
Already posted in an earlier comment thread!
And now on The Hill: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/296680-house-panel-probes-web-rumor-on-clinton-emails
total retardation.
Japan is a nice place to live. A lot of non-Asian people would love to live there. Yet one of the reasons it's such a great place to live is because it's so uniquely Japanese.
Japan is small enough that it could conceivably open up its immigration system while simultaneously enforcing high standards that would ensure it only gets the cream of potential applicants -- and that those who are accepted are firmly committed to assimilation. If any country could figure out how to get this to work, it would be Japan.Replies: @scrivener3, @Daniel H, @melendwyr, @unit472
Except that Japan doesn’t feel the need to welcome the cream of the potential immigrant crop. It doesn’t feel the need for permanent immigrants at all. Sure, their population is getting crazier and crazier as their birth rates plummet, but as far as they’re concerned they’ve got a good thing going.
Why should they use their nation as a guinea pig in a way that doesn’t benefit themselves at all from their perspective?
Japan is a nice place to live. A lot of non-Asian people would love to live there. Yet one of the reasons it's such a great place to live is because it's so uniquely Japanese.
Japan is small enough that it could conceivably open up its immigration system while simultaneously enforcing high standards that would ensure it only gets the cream of potential applicants -- and that those who are accepted are firmly committed to assimilation. If any country could figure out how to get this to work, it would be Japan.Replies: @scrivener3, @Daniel H, @melendwyr, @unit472
There was a sizable Japanese emigre community in South America. Japan offered these people residency visas to come and live in Japan. It wasn’t completely successful because, while these immigrants were racially Japanese, they had absorbed a lot of the cultural aspects of Brazil etc.
So, the progressives need to figure out:
1. Why Brazil has cornered the supply of magic dirt, and
2. Why it only works on some races some of the time.
Steve,
I used to live in japan and have a small bank account at a small regional bank. When I looked at their Japanese language website recently, they were advertising their “diversity” policy (the word diversity was not translated, but rather was rendered in katakana.
One more sign that the end is near.
I live 2 towns over from Elizabeth, in the past, when this country was 90% white, Elizabeth was considered an important city in the NY/NJ area. Immigration has turned it into magnet which attracts the derelicts of society. Now Elizabeth is just a big welfare office and black hole for county taxes, where county citizens are forced to go for jury duty. Just one town over, the population goes from majority non-white to white, and my town nearly all white and upper middle class. What happened to this great country? Are we and our children going to baby sit this mess?Replies: @stillCARealist, @hhsiii, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag, @Anon, @Neoconned
otoh an 800 sq ft condo around 27th St in Manhattan goes for $1.75 million.
Google news….for about 30 seconds….put up a related headline from Fox that claimed more than 800 illegals were “mistakenly” given citizenship. They took it down quickly to put up a story about the unarmed gentle giant in Tulsa who had just been shot by the cops. So it was national headline for a 30 seconds. That’s pretty good for Google.
In the final season of the Sopranos, Tony found that a good way to get FBI heat off of him was to provide them with info on potential terrorists.Replies: @SteveRogers42
Perhaps the Gambino Family should expand their AO:
https://www.rt.com/usa/323032-mafia-isis-warning-gambino/
ND is a half-wit who actually believes what he's saying.
Diaz = Tiny Duck -2SDReplies: @Abe, @Desiderius
Or maybe he’s just even better at LARPing.
ND has a way with the pen, he’s just been chasing the road-runner so hard he hasn’t noticed the ground is no longer under his feet.
Japan’s biggest cultural contribution to South America seems to have been Jujitsu, which the Scots-Brazilian Gracie family famously improved upon.
Levon Helm will always be the greatest.
Wait! You mean magic dirt sometimes works?
So, the progressives need to figure out:
1. Why Brazil has cornered the supply of magic dirt, and
2. Why it only works on some races some of the time.
Is that poking fun at the Barack Hussein Obama movie Southside With You?
By the way did Steve ever review that movie?Replies: @Perspective
I believe it’s poking fun of the tweet #I’ll ride with you, started by a deranged (half?) Asian girl from Australia, who went on some rant about how evil white people are, after a Muslim terrorist attack was committed. There’s been so many I’m loosing track.
I like your handle.
I live 2 towns over from Elizabeth, in the past, when this country was 90% white, Elizabeth was considered an important city in the NY/NJ area. Immigration has turned it into magnet which attracts the derelicts of society. Now Elizabeth is just a big welfare office and black hole for county taxes, where county citizens are forced to go for jury duty. Just one town over, the population goes from majority non-white to white, and my town nearly all white and upper middle class. What happened to this great country? Are we and our children going to baby sit this mess?Replies: @stillCARealist, @hhsiii, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag, @Anon, @Neoconned
I was visiting my elderly aunt and uncle in San Jose this July.
My uncle was laughing as he pointed out how clean the sidewalk was…..the bums pick it clean of most trash he said and the city pays them and convicts to clean up what’s left.
Another cousin of mine in New Orleans lived on the streets for a while. Her bf scraps from dumpsters.
Despite the reputation it is not an easy job.
Don’t forget too that the Hispanics feel as if they already have it made in this country, everyone tells them that they are the focus of their politics, so why should they worry. And why should we care if they don’t vote? Voting is a privilege, not a duty, and if someone doesn’t bother to vote it shows that he is content with the way things are, or actually realizes that his situation will not improve no matter who wins any particular election.
I love Steve and all the rest around here, but the game is over. The other team is just running out the clock, and we have no time-outs.
Naturally, I hope Trump wins, but his victory will more a moral victory than a substantive one. He's not going to stop all immigration. He's not going to allow whites the right to freedom of association. He's not going to acknowledge biological differences.
No. We're on our way to some combo of Texas/New Mexico/ California/Mexico and Brazil. That's guaranteed.
The real question is what comes next for whites. Slow death like in South Africa, or will we wake up. Who knows? Our current attitude points to the former but our history points to the latter.
Either way, history will marvel at what we have done to ourselves. I honestly think that they won't believe it and will make up all kinds of false theories as to how we reached this point. I mean, if I wasn't witnessing it myself, I wouldn't believe that a people would do this to themselves. No way. It's ridiculous.Replies: @Desiderius, @Whiskey, @Corvinus
Outright hot civil war and violent ethnic cleansing are baked into the cake here in the US and in Europe. The reason is that these places are not Brazil. People in them expect and demand a certain standard of living including welfare. Imagine Black people with half or a third of the current EBT benefits. Swipe swipe swipe; and they get almost nothing.
How quickly and violently will the reaction be? And a White minority and a huge non-White welfare majority is a recipe for violent enserfdom of every remaining productive White male and a violent fight by said White males to kick out the non-Whites so the money goes to THEM.
Brazil and South Africa “survive” by no real welfare spending and privatization of nearly everything. Even in the US that’s not possible; Germany has riots in the east precisely because of the welfare spending, not in spite of it. East Germans want the money all for themselves, not foreigners from the ME. That was the impetus for Brexit votes in the North of England as well.
There really is no place to run to; so the question is how to survive when half the Third World demands your every centavo for their welfare.
Philadelphia Eagles showed solidarity with the BLM tonight….horrible that they protested against the police days after a BLM member killed a white girl after attempting to murder a cop.. How clueless are these players. This may help Trump win the Philly Suburbs, which he needs to win Pennsylvania.
During a Monday Night Football game against the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field, multiple Eagles players stood with one fist raised in the air during the anthem..”Last week, we talked about doing some stuff, but we wanted to make sure that we didn’t do anything to take away from the families that suffered from 9/11,” Jenkins said. “We didn’t want to mess with that day, so we left last week alone. But moving forward, I’m sure there will be guys that will probably join in.”
Union County. Not to be confused with Union City, which is in Hudson and at least has a Blondie song to call its own. Elizabeth can't be a total tax black hole, though. Isn't Port Elizabeth there, and part of Newark airport? Oh well, I don't know what the tax base is like, but certainly its residents must be a net negative.Replies: @Former Darfur
Union City not only has a Blondie song, it has a Blondie-well, Debbie Harry (and Pat Benatar)- movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081687/
Steve has not reviewed it. In fact, I think it’s strange that considering how many films she’s done he hasn’t reviewed any films she is in…
She did a couple of things that had some impact; Videodrome and (the first) Hairspray.
But the most interesting thing about her film career was that she turned down the part in Blue Velvet that made Isabella Rosselini's career.
About the most that can be said about Harry as an actress is that she's better than Madonna. That isn't a high bar, though.Replies: @Former Darfur
“America’s bums are the best force to stop terrorists.”
“America’s bums are the best. We have the best bums!” – Trump.
America cannot take any more immigrants. period. Neither can France or any other first world nation. And unlike Brazil, with pathetic levels of welfare spending, First World nations will have a different dynamic.
Including people out to make the money go further. I would happily consign every single Muslim to the outer wastes of Pluto if it made my life 2 cents better. I owe them nothing and admire nothing about them. I suspect my attitudes are in this respect anyway typical of most White people, who find Muslims detestable in every thing about them. This is separate from moral status mongering.
If the US got rid of every Muslim inside the US presently, there would be a net increase of at least $1,000 in every ordinary person’s pocket. The level of fraud, terror related costs, and just general jihad costs that much.
And I sure could use that thousand smackers.
Your most ultra hipster moral preener would happily shoot every Muslim he saw for a new MacBook Pro. Bear that one in mind.
“Department of Homeless Security”
That’s good. I like it.
“You’d be surprised at how many homeless live lives that are effectively as routine/ordered/ritualized/socialized as any middle class suburbanites, just the environmental factors differ.”
Well, I wouldn’t be. But you’re right. Even homeless people who are chronic alcoholics usually have some sort of routine. Others, more functional, often have pretty well-ordered lives.
You might be surprised at how many homeless people have families that would love to help them get off the street. But the homeless refuse to leave.
It’s not necessarily a condition to be changed. For some, it’s a way of life.
“What America needs to do is to take in more Muslims and not less.”
Ridiculous. We don’t need them. They will change this country for the worse. They offer nothing of sufficient value to justify the hassle of importing them.
You ain’t kiddin’
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s5DnESRMUs8
“What happened to this great country?”
Enlarging that question from one country to a great civilization, I’ve been wondering if, among other things, it was due to a form of science fiction posing as non-fiction. Call it political utopian fiction passed-off as non-fiction. It was very effective, but also worked slow. It requires a teen-age brain in just the right circumstances for maximum effect.
One example is the book “The New World Order”, [1] , [2] . It’s over 75 years old now, but contains a lot you will recognize:
Today one would call “cosmopolitan revolution” the “revolution of the global elites”, I suppose.
This was written by H.G. Wells, the very famous early science fiction author (he and Jules Verne basically defined SF), at the start of WWII (published in 1940). He says his goal is one world government (leading to eternal peace and the end of war). It would be easy to say his thought was a reaction to WWI, but Wells was thinking this way (he claims) by 1900. Reading the introduction of this book gives the impression that he really is pining for the peaceful sun-never-sets late days of the British Empire.
So maybe the New World Order is to be the British Empire done right?
How thoughtful of him to imply that if it can work in Tennessee or Georgia or Scotland or Ireland it can work anywhere. We just need a little bit more of British Empiring done right. And ruling the whole world, with elites from the whole world. It won’t work if you allow for exceptions, bad things like wars might break out. So simple.
Enlarging that question from one country to a great civilization, I've been wondering if, among other things, it was due to a form of science fiction posing as non-fiction. Call it political utopian fiction passed-off as non-fiction. It was very effective, but also worked slow. It requires a teen-age brain in just the right circumstances for maximum effect.
One example is the book "The New World Order", [1] , [2] . It's over 75 years old now, but contains a lot you will recognize:Today one would call "cosmopolitan revolution" the "revolution of the global elites", I suppose.
This was written by H.G. Wells, the very famous early science fiction author (he and Jules Verne basically defined SF), at the start of WWII (published in 1940). He says his goal is one world government (leading to eternal peace and the end of war). It would be easy to say his thought was a reaction to WWI, but Wells was thinking this way (he claims) by 1900. Reading the introduction of this book gives the impression that he really is pining for the peaceful sun-never-sets late days of the British Empire.
So maybe the New World Order is to be the British Empire done right?
How thoughtful of him to imply that if it can work in Tennessee or Georgia or Scotland or Ireland it can work anywhere. We just need a little bit more of British Empiring done right. And ruling the whole world, with elites from the whole world. It won't work if you allow for exceptions, bad things like wars might break out. So simple.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @sayless
There’s a nice scene in the biography of Robert Heinlein, when in the 1930s the young Heinlein, out of the Navy but not yet writing sci-fi, goes to a bookstore booksigning of his hero H.G. Wells, who had briefly been a creative genius in the 1890s, more or less inventing science fiction as a genre with the Time Machine and War of the Worlds. Heinlein gets in line, says something intelligent to Wells, and the two strangers immediately hit it off, the once and future leaders of science fiction. Finally after about 5 minutes of animated discussion, the people behind Heinlein in line get impatient and they have to break it off.
Enlarging that question from one country to a great civilization, I've been wondering if, among other things, it was due to a form of science fiction posing as non-fiction. Call it political utopian fiction passed-off as non-fiction. It was very effective, but also worked slow. It requires a teen-age brain in just the right circumstances for maximum effect.
One example is the book "The New World Order", [1] , [2] . It's over 75 years old now, but contains a lot you will recognize:Today one would call "cosmopolitan revolution" the "revolution of the global elites", I suppose.
This was written by H.G. Wells, the very famous early science fiction author (he and Jules Verne basically defined SF), at the start of WWII (published in 1940). He says his goal is one world government (leading to eternal peace and the end of war). It would be easy to say his thought was a reaction to WWI, but Wells was thinking this way (he claims) by 1900. Reading the introduction of this book gives the impression that he really is pining for the peaceful sun-never-sets late days of the British Empire.
So maybe the New World Order is to be the British Empire done right?
How thoughtful of him to imply that if it can work in Tennessee or Georgia or Scotland or Ireland it can work anywhere. We just need a little bit more of British Empiring done right. And ruling the whole world, with elites from the whole world. It won't work if you allow for exceptions, bad things like wars might break out. So simple.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @sayless
A lot of Wells’ politics was that smart, hard-working lower-middle class guys like, say, H.G. Wells ought to run things, rather than the brutish working class morlocks or the useless upper class eloi.
Loved his fiction as a young man, not so crazy about some of his ideas have played out so far.
“A lot of Wells’ politics was that smart, hard-working lower-middle class guys like, say, H.G. Wells ought to run things, rather than the brutish working class morlocks or the useless upper class eloi.”
Skimming through this article on H.G. Wells suggests that Wells politics may also have been influenced by what today we would call “blaming the system” for his parent’s separation (effectively a divorce?):
Luckily for Wells his mother worked at Uppark, one of those great estate houses (something out of Jane Austen), that had a wonderful library:
Heinlein, of course, had his own world-socialist phase…
Of course, 50 years after Wells died, in 1945, a hard-working lower-middle class type named Margaret Thatcher changed things around in Britain so that the working class Morlocks were no longer so brutish, thanks to rising incomes and technology, and so that the hard-working lower middle-class guys like Wells aspired to be hard-working upper class entrepreneurs or investment bankers in the City, London’s financial district.
Wells acted out a gruesome revenge fantasy on the Eloi in one of his short stories called The Cone. In it, a gruff lower-middle class ironworks floor manager throws his wife’s Eloi-ish artist lover onto the hot stopper of a Bessemer converter blast furnace. H.G.Wells hated his Eloi the way Alfred Hitchcock hated beautiful women characters in his movies.
Based on the phrasing, Nick Diaz is a Victorian bishop who has imperfectly shape-shifted into a modern liberal’s body.
It seems my name recognition at this blog is not what I thought it was.
But the guy does kinda look like an "art student" I met in 2001. (Really. Yes, I met one of them.)
Maybe just a cousin from way back...
Enlarging that question from one country to a great civilization, I've been wondering if, among other things, it was due to a form of science fiction posing as non-fiction. Call it political utopian fiction passed-off as non-fiction. It was very effective, but also worked slow. It requires a teen-age brain in just the right circumstances for maximum effect.
One example is the book "The New World Order", [1] , [2] . It's over 75 years old now, but contains a lot you will recognize:Today one would call "cosmopolitan revolution" the "revolution of the global elites", I suppose.
This was written by H.G. Wells, the very famous early science fiction author (he and Jules Verne basically defined SF), at the start of WWII (published in 1940). He says his goal is one world government (leading to eternal peace and the end of war). It would be easy to say his thought was a reaction to WWI, but Wells was thinking this way (he claims) by 1900. Reading the introduction of this book gives the impression that he really is pining for the peaceful sun-never-sets late days of the British Empire.
So maybe the New World Order is to be the British Empire done right?
How thoughtful of him to imply that if it can work in Tennessee or Georgia or Scotland or Ireland it can work anywhere. We just need a little bit more of British Empiring done right. And ruling the whole world, with elites from the whole world. It won't work if you allow for exceptions, bad things like wars might break out. So simple.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @sayless
Well’s last book was Mind At The End of Its Tether (1945). He was 78 years old. It’s nihilistic, pessimistic, existential. No wonder, after what he’d lived through.
And now on The Hill: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/296680-house-panel-probes-web-rumor-on-clinton-emailsReplies: @Anonymous Nephew
I feel pretty sorry for that IT guy. Questions are being raised about other parts of his Reddit history, too (not Hillary-related). I’m starting to fear for his safety in the next six weeks, and even more if Hillary wins. Perhaps under a Trump presidency he could cut a deal with prosecutors, whistleblower-style.
LOL
But the guy does kinda look like an “art student” I met in 2001. (Really. Yes, I met one of them.)
Maybe just a cousin from way back…
Thanks for the update.s My bad! The number 3,000 stuck in my head. That was the number shot in Chicago this year to date. Although this can radically change in a weekend in Chicago, the number killed to date = 483. When I have time, I’ll calculate the average number killed in Chicago over 50 years.
With the update, I delved into an Internet search on Chicago. It turns out that 970 were killed in 1974 with similar stats through the 1970s. 994 were killed in 1994 with similar stats through the 1990s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
There was a marked drop in population in Chicago starting in the 1970s. I wonder if the Black-on-Black killing had anything to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago
You want to deny a better life in America for millions of Muslims based on the actions of an extremely small number of rotten apples.
You know, there’s a number of folks who don’t want millions more of anyone coming here, whether Muslims, Anglos, Chinese, or Swedes. There’s enough people in this country. And there’s enough high IQ people in this country. Some of us don’t want this whole country to turn into one big port town, ya dig? Try that one on.
I love Steve and all the rest around here, but the game is over. The other team is just running out the clock, and we have no time-outs.
Naturally, I hope Trump wins, but his victory will more a moral victory than a substantive one. He's not going to stop all immigration. He's not going to allow whites the right to freedom of association. He's not going to acknowledge biological differences.
No. We're on our way to some combo of Texas/New Mexico/ California/Mexico and Brazil. That's guaranteed.
The real question is what comes next for whites. Slow death like in South Africa, or will we wake up. Who knows? Our current attitude points to the former but our history points to the latter.
Either way, history will marvel at what we have done to ourselves. I honestly think that they won't believe it and will make up all kinds of false theories as to how we reached this point. I mean, if I wasn't witnessing it myself, I wouldn't believe that a people would do this to themselves. No way. It's ridiculous.Replies: @Desiderius, @Whiskey, @Corvinus
“Given population trends, yes. Whites births are a slight minority now. Combine that with even modest immigration and whites will be a minority in a generation or two with things going downhill from there. That’s baked in the pie, not some WN silliness.”
What is silly is believing that “anti-whites” purposely destroyed the greatness of America with their immigration policies, considering throughout American history immigrants have been a critical link to our prosperity both financially and culturally. Furthermore, white Americans are able to live wherever they choose and associate with whomever they want. If you don’t want to live among non-whites, there are a number of neighborhoods to chose from. Moreover, there is still immense debate regarding the extent of research about what biological differences means between the races. The cult of HbDers is no different in their approach to insisting their side is the unadulterated truth compared to feminists.
“No. We’re on our way to some combo of Texas/New Mexico/ California/Mexico and Brazil. That’s guaranteed.”
No, that’s not guaranteed. That is speculation. The same sort of attitudes were expressed by nativists when the Irish “infiltrated” America in the 1850’s, that the United States would become a “Catholic cesspool”.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081687/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkQWQnGztmM
Steve has not reviewed it. In fact, I think it's strange that considering how many films she's done he hasn't reviewed any films she is in...Replies: @Former Darfur
Perhaps on the grounds that most of them are obvious NYC hipster trash.
She did a couple of things that had some impact; Videodrome and (the first) Hairspray.
But the most interesting thing about her film career was that she turned down the part in Blue Velvet that made Isabella Rosselini’s career.
About the most that can be said about Harry as an actress is that she’s better than Madonna. That isn’t a high bar, though.
Whether she wants to is another issue. Mutual acquaintences told me several times that her big obsession for years was to play Doris Day in a biopic. At the time this would have been a plausible project, she was having substance and other issues. Apparently Day was not thrilled with the idea either, and since she is tight with several Hollywood heavy hitters to this day, interest was sort of quashed.
The other thing is that Blondie seems to be touring their asses off and making money. (They still can't get arrested in Flyover America, but do great in Europe, Japan, Australia, and the UK and in big college and gay towns in the US, and of course New York.) She probably figures that her days onstage are numbered, as are Chris's, and he has the young wife and kids to think about. So she probably just isn't interested in any major film project, though the occasional sitcom appearance might be seen from time to time.
Back at you.
Agreed. It’s stupid to prevent a retard with Ebola from immigrating, when only (literally!) 0.001% or less of his body weight is Ebola virus, and the other 99.999% is pure, harmless retard. It would be asinine.
It’s also like refusing to eat food that’s laced with (literally!) only 0.001% poop, by weight, and is otherwise 99.999% fat. It would be asinine.
It’s also like refusing to take a pill that is (literally!) only 0.001% cyanide, and 99.999% placebo. It would be asinine.
Lol! That is classic.
Not that different from me, except I started out as vaguely race-realist and “Jew wise,” and after 9/11 I determined to “get to the bottom of this.”
I’m a caring, sharing, nice guy. I just have no time for all the signalling BS, and this is politics, not interpersonal relations. You need the shirt off my back you’ll get it, but you don’t get to steal it via the ballot box.
Meanwhile BATFELMNOP is using this Public Emergency to lock down further on the buying and selling of tannerite for Boomershoot enthusiasts.
At least till Boomershoot’s organizers can guarantee the presence of ten homeless Investigators and a dumpster for every 50 Boomershoot participants.
Sounds pretty alt-right when you put it that way.
Loved his fiction as a young man, not so crazy about some of his ideas have played out so far.
iSteveFan:
“That is colonialism you twit. Taking the most morally upright and industrious people form the muslim world is nothing less than resurrecting the old practice of resource extraction that colonial powers used in the past. Only now you would have us extract their human resources.
How are the muslim nations to develop and grow if you take away their best and brightest? I can’t believe this is coming from y0u given your supposed sympathy with the oppressed peoples of the world”
Do you even know what th word colonialism even means? “Ccolonialism” comes from the noun “colony”, which is defined as a new settlement of a given civilization. How is allowing in immigrants to YOUR country a form of “colonialism”?
You tlak as if we have control over these people. We are not “forcing” them to come to the West. They have a choice. If they want to immigrate to America, that’s fine. If they want to remain in their native countries, that’s fine, too. We are showing them the freedom of the WEst and the values of the Enlightnment. Muslim countries are free to use their money oil to attract WEstern intellectuals and scientists to their countries as well. Freeom, not colonialim.
If you mean that, by Westernizing Muslims we are somehow “culturally” colonizing them, well, then so be it. It will be best for them, as Westerners are freer, wealthier and have longer lives than Muslims on average. By most objective criteria, being colonized culturally by the West is a very good thing. Go ask the Jaoanese. Most quite like having been Westernized, and wouldn’t like to go back to the days of the Shoguns.
I love when unintelligent people like you call me a “twit”. That’a cute. It must be nice to have such a big ego with no abilities to back it up.
"The point, is we should show the World, including the Muslim world, that the West is tolerant of Islam as long as Muslims respect Western values of secularism and individual rights."
Sounds pretty chauvinistic. How is one to submit to Allah while respecting the values of a secularism which doesn't, often with great enthusiasm, let alone individual "rights"? You are asking something of these people which they have naught to give.
Henry Bowman:
” I want to protect our rights, wealth, Liberty, and future and if that means denying some groups because of the end results of their values, culture, voting habits, actions, etc, so be it.
You talk as if somehow the values that you cherish are exclusive to Americans and instrsferable. Muslims can be assimilated, and can be made Western. Example of this was Ataturk’s reformation in Turkey, as well as the old Muslim community in Marseille, France, that never caused the French any problems for 300 years – the Muslims that are causing problems now have arrived in the country in the last few decades when assimilation to French culture was discouraged.
“How can anyone with a brain read your “arguments” and not take you for cruel, unfair, and brainlessly egalitarian fool that you clearly are”
Actually, I am in good company. Many people that are considered bright share my opinions on this matter. To name some who are alive: Sam Harris, Pickety, Peter Thiel, David Pearce(Oxford philosopher) to name others. Deceased thinkers who share my thoughts on immigration and cultural assimilation: Ludwig Von Misses, Miltn Friedman, Voltaire, Chomsky, David Ricardo, etc. If that makes me a “brainlessly egaliatarian fool”, then I am in good company.
The fact that thinkers in both the extreme left like Chomsky and the extreme right like Misses share the same views on immigration and cultural assimilation shows how universal these values are among bright people.
Why don’t see many haut-bourgeoise and intellectuals complaining ahout immigration? It is always white trash, uneducated people that are culturally intolerant.
Anon:
“Nick, why do you go back to 1993 when analyzing terror deaths inflicted by whites, but only back to 2002 when analyzing terror deaths inflicted by muslims? Does that seem like an analytically rigorous comparison? Or like an intentionally skewed setup designed to manipulate results that even someone with the most meager scientific training could recognize as a complete sham?
Its clear you really have no personal integrity whatsoever. What a sad way to spend a life.”
I SPECIFICALLY mentioned the 9/11 attack as being much greater in scope than what McVeigh did, you shameless liar. Telling me that I have no integrity, huh? You should stare in a mirror when uttering those words.
iSteveFan:
“That is colonialism you twit. Taking the most morally upright and industrious people form the muslim world is nothing less than resurrecting the old practice of resource extraction that colonial powers used in the past. Only now you would have us extract their human resources.”
You talk as if we should have control over what people should do with their lives. I don’t want to force anyone to do anything. You, on the other hand, want to force good Muslims to have a terrible life by making them live in totalitarian regimes they don’t want to live in. Allowing good Muslims in would accomplish the purpose of showing the World two things: first, that bad Muslims are the problem, and not the religion of Islam. Secondly, that the West is morally superior to Muslim extremists, as the West is tolerant of differences, while the Jihaddists murder disbelievers.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist. By closing the borders, you are acting intolerantly just like the Muslims extremist. How is the West any better than radical Islam if we act like they do?
Desiderius:
“How many millions are we talking, Nick – a thousand? three? They’re making plenty to go around.
What right do we have to deprive their home countries of their most industrious and conscientious members? Aren’t those the very ones those home countries need to ameliorate the obscene level of inequality between those countries and your own? Come on now Nick, how greedy can you get? For shame!”
I am going to give the same answer I did to iSteveFan:
“You talk as if we should have control over what people should do with their lives. I don’t want to force anyone to do anything. You, on the other hand, want to force good Muslims to have a terrible life by making them live in totalitarian regimes they don’t want to live in. Allowing good Muslims in would accomplish the purpose of showing the World two things: first, that bad Muslims are the problem, and not the religion of Islam. Secondly, that the West is morally superior to Muslim extremists, as the West is tolerant of differences, while the Jihaddists murder disbelievers.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist. By closing the borders, you are acting intolerantly just like the Muslims extremist. How is the West any better than radical Islam if we act like they do?”
I will further add this:
I think we should bring in a few million Muslims. Enough to have a sizable community. A billion is obviously no necessary. The point, is we should show the World, including the Muslim world, that the West is tolerant of Islam as long as Muslims respect Western values of secularism and individual rights.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist.
It would be easy to run this down on a mocking, back -at-the-lib "how dare you judge any society as superior, you Western chauvanist?", but that's just taking bait.
I want to live in a stable republic. I don't want my republic to be a demonstration project to the world or its escape valve. Sure, I can use the "I don't want to tell the rest of the world how to live, that's more supremecism" bit. I believe that, and it puts the squishy at bay, though not Jacobins like yourself.
But I don't give a shit any longer about being "dynamic"- that's for the Merchants Who Have No Country.
You seem to really get excited about "millions". I don't think that they are Muslims is even really the point. You subscribe to that pantheist dream of the singularity, where we'll all fit on the head of a pin together. It's a theological nightmare.Replies: @Desiderius
Full stop.
"How many millions are we talking, Nick – a thousand? three? They’re making plenty to go around.
What right do we have to deprive their home countries of their most industrious and conscientious members? Aren’t those the very ones those home countries need to ameliorate the obscene level of inequality between those countries and your own? Come on now Nick, how greedy can you get? For shame!"
I am going to give the same answer I did to iSteveFan:
"You talk as if we should have control over what people should do with their lives. I don’t want to force anyone to do anything. You, on the other hand, want to force good Muslims to have a terrible life by making them live in totalitarian regimes they don’t want to live in. Allowing good Muslims in would accomplish the purpose of showing the World two things: first, that bad Muslims are the problem, and not the religion of Islam. Secondly, that the West is morally superior to Muslim extremists, as the West is tolerant of differences, while the Jihaddists murder disbelievers.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist. By closing the borders, you are acting intolerantly just like the Muslims extremist. How is the West any better than radical Islam if we act like they do?"
I will further add this:
I think we should bring in a few million Muslims. Enough to have a sizable community. A billion is obviously no necessary. The point, is we should show the World, including the Muslim world, that the West is tolerant of Islam as long as Muslims respect Western values of secularism and individual rights.Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Former Darfur, @Clyde, @MEH 0910
Allowing good Muslims in would accomplish the purpose of showing the World two things: first, that bad Muslims are the problem, and not the religion of Islam. Secondly, that the West is morally superior to Muslim extremists, as the West is tolerant of differences, while the Jihaddists murder disbelievers.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist.
It would be easy to run this down on a mocking, back -at-the-lib “how dare you judge any society as superior, you Western chauvanist?”, but that’s just taking bait.
I want to live in a stable republic. I don’t want my republic to be a demonstration project to the world or its escape valve. Sure, I can use the “I don’t want to tell the rest of the world how to live, that’s more supremecism” bit. I believe that, and it puts the squishy at bay, though not Jacobins like yourself.
But I don’t give a shit any longer about being “dynamic”- that’s for the Merchants Who Have No Country.
You seem to really get excited about “millions”. I don’t think that they are Muslims is even really the point. You subscribe to that pantheist dream of the singularity, where we’ll all fit on the head of a pin together. It’s a theological nightmare.
If you mean that, by Westernizing Muslims we are somehow "culturally" colonizing them, well, then so be it. It will be best for them, as Westerners are freer, wealthier and have longer lives than Muslims on average. By most objective criteria, being colonized culturally by the West is a very good thing. Go ask the Jaoanese. Most quite like having been Westernized, and wouldn't like to go back to the days of the Shoguns.I love when unintelligent people like you call me a "twit". That'a cute. It must be nice to have such a big ego with no abilities to back it up.Replies: @Desiderius
It (barely) edges out having the abilities but failing to use them, as you have so far.
On the basis of what principle? You don’t acknowledge that we possess the sovereignty to even consider such a determination, let alone enforce it.
“The point, is we should show the World, including the Muslim world, that the West is tolerant of Islam as long as Muslims respect Western values of secularism and individual rights.”
Sounds pretty chauvinistic. How is one to submit to Allah while respecting the values of a secularism which doesn’t, often with great enthusiasm, let alone individual “rights”? You are asking something of these people which they have naught to give.
"How many millions are we talking, Nick – a thousand? three? They’re making plenty to go around.
What right do we have to deprive their home countries of their most industrious and conscientious members? Aren’t those the very ones those home countries need to ameliorate the obscene level of inequality between those countries and your own? Come on now Nick, how greedy can you get? For shame!"
I am going to give the same answer I did to iSteveFan:
"You talk as if we should have control over what people should do with their lives. I don’t want to force anyone to do anything. You, on the other hand, want to force good Muslims to have a terrible life by making them live in totalitarian regimes they don’t want to live in. Allowing good Muslims in would accomplish the purpose of showing the World two things: first, that bad Muslims are the problem, and not the religion of Islam. Secondly, that the West is morally superior to Muslim extremists, as the West is tolerant of differences, while the Jihaddists murder disbelievers.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist. By closing the borders, you are acting intolerantly just like the Muslims extremist. How is the West any better than radical Islam if we act like they do?"
I will further add this:
I think we should bring in a few million Muslims. Enough to have a sizable community. A billion is obviously no necessary. The point, is we should show the World, including the Muslim world, that the West is tolerant of Islam as long as Muslims respect Western values of secularism and individual rights.Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Former Darfur, @Clyde, @MEH 0910
Muslims ought to live in Muslim countries.
Full stop.
She did a couple of things that had some impact; Videodrome and (the first) Hairspray.
But the most interesting thing about her film career was that she turned down the part in Blue Velvet that made Isabella Rosselini's career.
About the most that can be said about Harry as an actress is that she's better than Madonna. That isn't a high bar, though.Replies: @Former Darfur
She is an eccentric but within her wheelhouse a pretty good actress. At this point in her life-she’s 71-there are not going to be a lot of attractive roles, but in the right one she could do very well.
Whether she wants to is another issue. Mutual acquaintences told me several times that her big obsession for years was to play Doris Day in a biopic. At the time this would have been a plausible project, she was having substance and other issues. Apparently Day was not thrilled with the idea either, and since she is tight with several Hollywood heavy hitters to this day, interest was sort of quashed.
The other thing is that Blondie seems to be touring their asses off and making money. (They still can’t get arrested in Flyover America, but do great in Europe, Japan, Australia, and the UK and in big college and gay towns in the US, and of course New York.) She probably figures that her days onstage are numbered, as are Chris’s, and he has the young wife and kids to think about. So she probably just isn’t interested in any major film project, though the occasional sitcom appearance might be seen from time to time.
Just because we have a half third worlder President with three Muslim names means we have to allow Muslims to immigrate here? Muslims and all foreigners have no Constitutional right to immigrate here. What’s in it for us? I know what’s in for Muslims who want to live here (in America) but what’s in it for us?
There is zero upside for Americans in allowing Muslim immigrants and refugees to enter America. We have enough of them. America should be run like one of those exclusive gated communities the wealthy like to cluster in. Gated community residents decide who gets to enter, not the other way around.
"How many millions are we talking, Nick – a thousand? three? They’re making plenty to go around.
What right do we have to deprive their home countries of their most industrious and conscientious members? Aren’t those the very ones those home countries need to ameliorate the obscene level of inequality between those countries and your own? Come on now Nick, how greedy can you get? For shame!"
I am going to give the same answer I did to iSteveFan:
"You talk as if we should have control over what people should do with their lives. I don’t want to force anyone to do anything. You, on the other hand, want to force good Muslims to have a terrible life by making them live in totalitarian regimes they don’t want to live in. Allowing good Muslims in would accomplish the purpose of showing the World two things: first, that bad Muslims are the problem, and not the religion of Islam. Secondly, that the West is morally superior to Muslim extremists, as the West is tolerant of differences, while the Jihaddists murder disbelievers.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist. By closing the borders, you are acting intolerantly just like the Muslims extremist. How is the West any better than radical Islam if we act like they do?"
I will further add this:
I think we should bring in a few million Muslims. Enough to have a sizable community. A billion is obviously no necessary. The point, is we should show the World, including the Muslim world, that the West is tolerant of Islam as long as Muslims respect Western values of secularism and individual rights.Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Former Darfur, @Clyde, @MEH 0910
We already have done so you schizo imbecile and they have high birthrates.
" I want to protect our rights, wealth, Liberty, and future and if that means denying some groups because of the end results of their values, culture, voting habits, actions, etc, so be it.
You talk as if somehow the values that you cherish are exclusive to Americans and instrsferable. Muslims can be assimilated, and can be made Western. Example of this was Ataturk's reformation in Turkey, as well as the old Muslim community in Marseille, France, that never caused the French any problems for 300 years - the Muslims that are causing problems now have arrived in the country in the last few decades when assimilation to French culture was discouraged.
"How can anyone with a brain read your “arguments” and not take you for cruel, unfair, and brainlessly egalitarian fool that you clearly are"
Actually, I am in good company. Many people that are considered bright share my opinions on this matter. To name some who are alive: Sam Harris, Pickety, Peter Thiel, David Pearce(Oxford philosopher) to name others. Deceased thinkers who share my thoughts on immigration and cultural assimilation: Ludwig Von Misses, Miltn Friedman, Voltaire, Chomsky, David Ricardo, etc. If that makes me a "brainlessly egaliatarian fool", then I am in good company.
The fact that thinkers in both the extreme left like Chomsky and the extreme right like Misses share the same views on immigration and cultural assimilation shows how universal these values are among bright people.
Why don't see many haut-bourgeoise and intellectuals complaining ahout immigration? It is always white trash, uneducated people that are culturally intolerant.Replies: @Clyde
I really galls you lefty “intellectual” blowhards that come election time all of the above get the same one vote.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist.
It would be easy to run this down on a mocking, back -at-the-lib "how dare you judge any society as superior, you Western chauvanist?", but that's just taking bait.
I want to live in a stable republic. I don't want my republic to be a demonstration project to the world or its escape valve. Sure, I can use the "I don't want to tell the rest of the world how to live, that's more supremecism" bit. I believe that, and it puts the squishy at bay, though not Jacobins like yourself.
But I don't give a shit any longer about being "dynamic"- that's for the Merchants Who Have No Country.
You seem to really get excited about "millions". I don't think that they are Muslims is even really the point. You subscribe to that pantheist dream of the singularity, where we'll all fit on the head of a pin together. It's a theological nightmare.Replies: @Desiderius
If it were easy, we wouldn’t be in the fix we’re in. What’s easy is the cuck attribution of good faith where none is offered. That will be interpreted as weakness or a ploy and feed more lib aggression.
Americans sleep soundly at night only because rough-living men stand knee-deep in dumpsters.
Conspiracy Theory: There is substantial cooperation between street people, criminals and the police. Don't be surprised of successful terrorism investigations really consist of successful Afghan drug dealers ratting out their countrymen to the FBI in exchange for being allowed to be successful Afghan drug dealers.
2010 Times Sq bombing:
Meanwhile, Alioune Niasse, a Senegalese immigrant who sells photographs on the Square, was among those who noticed the vehicle and alerted a mounted policeman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Times_Square_car_bombing_attempt#Car_bombing_attempt
I vaguely remember an attempt by the media to report a heroic veteran discovered the bomb.
1931 Fritz Lang film M:
Inspector Karl Lohmann instructs his men to intensify their search and to check the records of recently released psychiatric patients, to look for those with a history of violence against children. They stage frequent raids to question known criminals, disrupting underworld business so badly that Der Schränker (The Safecracker) calls a meeting of the city's crime lords. They decide to organize their own manhunt, using beggars to watch the children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_(1931_film)Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hapalong Cassidy, @a Newsreader
This reminds me of Sherlock Holmes’s network of London vagrants he used to find leads during his investigations. I wouldn’t be surprised if the FBI, DHS, and NYPD had some Sherlockians among their leadership.
You’d be more likely to find them where Sherlock was – on the periphery, available on an as-needed basis.
"How many millions are we talking, Nick – a thousand? three? They’re making plenty to go around.
What right do we have to deprive their home countries of their most industrious and conscientious members? Aren’t those the very ones those home countries need to ameliorate the obscene level of inequality between those countries and your own? Come on now Nick, how greedy can you get? For shame!"
I am going to give the same answer I did to iSteveFan:
"You talk as if we should have control over what people should do with their lives. I don’t want to force anyone to do anything. You, on the other hand, want to force good Muslims to have a terrible life by making them live in totalitarian regimes they don’t want to live in. Allowing good Muslims in would accomplish the purpose of showing the World two things: first, that bad Muslims are the problem, and not the religion of Islam. Secondly, that the West is morally superior to Muslim extremists, as the West is tolerant of differences, while the Jihaddists murder disbelievers.
That would do wonders to show the superiority of Western values over religious extemist. By closing the borders, you are acting intolerantly just like the Muslims extremist. How is the West any better than radical Islam if we act like they do?"
I will further add this:
I think we should bring in a few million Muslims. Enough to have a sizable community. A billion is obviously no necessary. The point, is we should show the World, including the Muslim world, that the West is tolerant of Islam as long as Muslims respect Western values of secularism and individual rights.Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Former Darfur, @Clyde, @MEH 0910
Familiarity breeds contempt. The less Muslims in the USA, the better we’ll get along with Muslim countries.
What would libtards do if they couldn’t ignore the substance and nitpick the form? The point was that it’s causing brain-drain, but since Nick obviously approves of that, he ignored it.
Again, ignore the substance, change the subject. If we close our borders, the brain-drain can end, or at least, we won’t be providing an incentive any more. But Nick likes the brain-drain (eff the primitives, am I right?), so he won’t address the issue.
Charles Pewitt would know all about this topic. Seeing as mr. pewitt lives on the other side of the river from my house on NHTI property in his overflowing tent full of whatever….
So sad really, here is a man who hates on anyone but takes no responsibility for himself to care for himself on his own.