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One reason Democrats have become so enthusiastic about importing more Muslims into the U.S. is because their former favorite immigrant group, the Hispanics, seem to lack the fire in the belly to crush the white guy’s party the way Democrats had imagined they would. For example, the the decade-long depopulation of Puerto Rico was supposed to permanently tip Florida’s electoral votes to the Democrats, but that plan failed in 2016. And so far the subsequent big hurricane in Puerto Rico still isn’t doing much for the Democrats in Florida. What more do the Democrats have to do? From the Orlando Sentinel:

Fewer Puerto Ricans than expected register to vote in Florida so far

Steven Lemongello

When Iralisse Huertas-Agosto visited friends in Orlando from Puerto Rico last October, at the height of the 2016 presidential election, she was shocked to hear they didn’t plan to vote.

“They said it didn’t matter,” said Huertas-Agosto, 23. “To me, coming from the island, voting is really important and here they said, ‘Oh we don’t care.’ ”

Now living in Kissimmee with her mother and sister after their hometown in Puerto Rico, Vega Baja, was devastated by Hurricane Maria, one of the first things she did was to register herself and her mother to vote.

“Next election, we need to know everything, because we’re definitely voting here,” she said. “And if the rest of my family comes to live here, they will vote, too.”

With so many leaving Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria struck on Sept. 20, the influx of registered Florida voters from the island is expected to play a key role in this year’s election and beyond. But so far, the number of newly registered Hispanic voters in Central Florida is not the big number that many forecast.

Democrats make up less than 30 percent of new Hispanic voter registrations in Central Florida since the end of September, with about 8 percent registering as Republicans and the majority, 63 percent, registering as independents, like Huertas-Agosto and her mother.

As U.S. citizens, Puerto Ricans are able to register and vote immediately. As a group they’ve also historically identified as independent but voted Democratic, leading party leaders and political analysts to predict a major impact in Democrats’ favor in a closely divided state such as Florida, where Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in 2016 by fewer than 120,000 votes.

Democratic political strategist Steve Schale warns that his party should not take it for granted that new residents from Puerto Rican will bring on a Democratic surge.

“A lot of people in the party think this is just going to happen,” he said. “But if you look at the data so far, it’s not just happening. It’s not going to happen on its own.”

Hispanics just don’t hate white people enough for the Democratic strategists. So, bring on the Muslims!

 
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  1. Fortunately, they are clustering in the big cities, so this dampens the effect now; nevertheless, after the next census, seats will be lost both in the Florida legislature and in the US House. They don’t have to vote to be a GOP problem.

  2. Are there any Floridians here? Is Rick Scott going to run for Senate or not?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    @Berty

    I think Rick Scott is going to run.

  3. The Democrat plan right now seems more like “bring on the middle-aged suburban feminists”.

    • Agree: Thomas
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @IHTG

    Agreed. They really haven't learned anything from Hillary's loss. It seems they still think their contrived neo civil rights movements + homomania + YAS QUEEN slay + vapid celebrity support is the winning formula. It's honestly pretty funny.

    If Republicans were to quit sucking up to evangelicals so much then Trump could probably win 52-55 % of the popular vote in 2020.

    , @Nico
    @IHTG

    That was so last fall. Unlimited migration is the flavor of Winter 2018, and it is now being said so explicitly.

    , @nebulafox
    @IHTG

    Never a more reliable formula for ensuring that non-soyboy men below a certain age never bother to vote Democrat than having that be their major image.

  4. after their hometown in Puerto Rico, Vega Baja, was devastated by Hurricane Maria, one of the first things she did was to register herself and her mother to vote.

    I thought that after a catastrophic event, you next went to Disneyland

    There is a little too much glee in the article. I would think people would have a sense of loss, and some desire to rebuild/go back. Apparently, they are just rail meat that shuffles in and votes D.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @bomag

    I’ve noticed that too. Puerto Ricans rebuilding Puerto Rico isn’t really a priority to Dems. Just get ‘em to Florida and get ‘em registered!

    Replies: @Thea

    , @Neoconned
    @bomag

    The Latinos in the 90s were below a quarter of the population in Kissimmee. It was still white, Asian and American black back then.

    Now they've turned the old tourist motels into makeshift Section 8 housing and turned Kissimmee into a rathole....but hey even that apparently is preferable to their island paradise....

  5. I think the growth in the number of Muslims in the coming years will be explosive. I think there will be a real boom soon. In fact, in places like Orlando, Muslims have been shooting through the roof …

    • Replies: @oddsbodkins
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    Their numbers will skyrocket, as in Gaza.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @AndrewR
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    Eye sea watt ewe did their.

  6. @Berty
    Are there any Floridians here? Is Rick Scott going to run for Senate or not?

    Replies: @TTSSYF

    I think Rick Scott is going to run.

  7. It may be that ‘Hispanics’ have their own agenda which does not mesh with the Ds or Rs. It will be interesting to see what happens if someone runs courting Hispanics.

    Daily Caller tries to shoehorn Cali Liberals into antiwar sentiments, but Cali liberals are actually extremely militaristic. So this guy actually does not fit in with any of the legacy categories.

    Liberal California Councilman And Teacher Tells Students Military Are ‘Dumbsh*ts’ And ‘Lowest Of Our Low’ [VIDEO]

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/27/teacher-says-military-lowest-of-our-low/

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @George

    George, a lot, if not the majority, of Hispanics are Catholics, and some Baptists. Dem far left platform planks and fringe catering doesn't appeal to them, and may actually offend them.

    Replies: @Simply Simon

  8. Steve, you have to remember that Florida is a special case, populated largely by fanatically anticommunist Cuban Hispanics who are loyal Republican voters.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Anonymous


    Steve, you have to remember that Florida is a special case, populated largely by fanatically anticommunist Cuban Hispanics who are loyal Republican voters.
     
    You are at least 20 years behind the times. Under 40 years old Cuban Americans trend Democrat plus Hispanics in Florida used to mean Cubans. Now it means the full array of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans, South Americans, lots of Colombians and Venezuelans and others. Lots of Brazilians too.

    All Florida Hispanics lumped together are 65%+ Democrat voters...if voting. Seems voting is not high on their list. California Hispanic politics are dominated by Mexican Americans. Cuban -Americans in FL do not have this kind of dominance anymore.

  9. Steve, what are you so cheerful about?

    Youre always talking about how so-and-so was wrong about the Latino Wave in 2004. So what?

    Over what timeline are you so sanguine? What do you imagine will happen to Texas and Florida?

    What Republican party are you talking about without Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona, Colorado?

    Show your work. All of the cities in Texas are Democratic. Dallas wasn’t always blue and they’ll be saying the same about the state of Texas. It’s only getting more Latino, more Asian/Indian, more California transplant lib, and less old cowboy by the day. The population trends don’t lie. Extremely blue Austin is exploding and the old rural population is collapsing.

    Why are we ever talking about how your analysis shows that Romney’s vote totals in Arizona were slightly underrated by whomever?

    How is that relevant to the loss of the country, the nation of heritage Americans as a historical, social, cultural, and political entity?

    Do you imagine you have some larger point here? Like the “doomsayers” are wrong because youre right when it comes to counting how many Latino votes fit on a pinhead?

    Are you aware, at all, that California was lost to heritage-Americans in your lifetime? Lost forever. Gone. America’s greatest state, which happened to be the Republican center of power, is no longer part of America. It’s magic dirt, alright, and the numbers are real: heritage-Americans have been ethnically cleansed from Ronald Reagan’s home. Hell, my Nixon appointee grandfather lived in the beating heart, Orange County, through the 1990s. My children will hear about that like some Palestinian refugee’s child being told about the family’s once and future olive groves.

    Are you aware that white babies were a minority last year? That this isn’t hypothetical?

    Are you aware that the Democratic trend in Texas is real? That it doesn’t matter if some idiot like Jorge Ramos predicts the wrong year if you have no reason at all to see the trend reversing?

    Do you understand that your calendar victories don’t matter at all?

    Do you get that 28 years from now I’ll be younger than you are now? That we aren’t talking about geological time scales here?

    How, in detail, does your Overestimated Latino Bias have anything to do with my children having America as a country?

    And if it doesn’t have anything to do with that question then why are you talking politics at all? Why not go directly to tee times and cruises and the price of fiddles during a fire? Do you talk to someone with terminal cancer about whether global warming will affect his health in 30 years?

    Anyone who doesn’t have an explicit idea of how to REVERSE–NOT SLOW–the demographic meltdown has abdicated any right to voice an opinion. If you fall into this camp, it’s time to stop speaking and start listening.

    If you fall into this camp you may NOT:

    Talk about how you need a safe space without white nationalism;

    Explain how you wouldn’t have voted for some bills in 1965 so we wouldn’t be in this mess right now;

    Say, like Steve, that your “strategy” is to merely assert, like a child, that everything would be fine if everyone were reasonable just like me;

    Duck your responsibilities because you don’t want to feel icky;

    Abandon your duty because it will cost you personal comfort, security or wealth.

    Allow me to be clear: everyone must be able to answer these questions. Nobody is responsible for having the perfect tactical plan that will guarantee success. All are required to explicate their reasoning in terms of how it will secure this nation for heritage-Americans and our posterity. If you can’t work back from A to B in these terms then you’re on the wrong track and the light at the end of your tunnel is coming straight towards us.

    Talking about politics orthogonal to the 14 words is like dancing to architecture. We have been patient with people who prefer clutching pearls but it’s becoming impossible to make excuses for those who can see.

    It is time for a choosing.

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
    • Replies: @Nico
    @anonymouslee


    Anyone who doesn’t have an explicit idea of how to REVERSE–NOT SLOW–the demographic meltdown has abdicated any right to voice an opinion. If you fall into this camp, it’s time to stop speaking and start listening.
     
    I will admit that I don’t have an explicit idea of any doable *action* that can be initiated on our side although I do have more than a modicum of an idea what kind of *reaction* would be necessary in certain scenarios. I would however be all ears to suggestions. Like yourself, I view the mounting numbers of “those” people in Western countries as an existential threat to the kind of society I like to live in, and possibly to my own life and to the lives of people I love. I would definitely be up for a calm discussion on whether there may be a humane means of reducing these numbers.

    On the whole, though, I think you are right. We need to start with the premise that we need scores of millions *fewer* POCs in the West, and go from there.
    , @Berty
    @anonymouslee

    888 didn't read shit

    , @36 ulster
    @anonymouslee

    More rhetorical questions than any ten Pat Buchanan essays.

    , @The Practical Conservative
    @anonymouslee

    White babies were not a minority last year. And I mean white non-Hispanic. They were under 50% for a single year a few years ago, but white babies have pretty much stayed stable at a majority of births.

    , @cynthia curran
    @anonymouslee

    Some truth to what you say about the big cities of Texas. I told Briebart that they have to worry more about congressional districts in Harris County than Orange County California. I think both Florida and Texas will be purplish states longer than blue. Its true that Dems can not always count on Latinos, Trump won Kern County Ca at 13 percent better than he did in Harris County Texas which he lost by 13 percent to Clinton. Harris County has more muslims than does Kern County Ca.

  10. OT
    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/prison-family-life-sentences-mass-incarceration-philadelphia-pennsylvania

    They touch on the nature /nurture aspect but strangely, comments are closed.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @MichiganMom

    MM, are you surprised that the comments are closed when the central figures in the article are repeat murders and drug dealers. Probably zero sympathy shown by the commenters.

    Replies: @MichiganMom

    , @Ed
    @MichiganMom

    There’s a disclaimer in the beginning about the article not trying to excuse the inmates. The problem is they use term like “mass incarceration” as if the inmates are in there unjustly.

    These type of stories involving blacks & Puerto Rican thugs bring out a torrent of comments, many of them racist by msm standards. Washington Post blocks comments to most local crime stories.

    Replies: @MichiganMom

  11. A Black woman, who was a Bernie supporter, was on Fox News saying the Black community is taken aback that the Dems would shut down the gov’t for the sake of people who aren’t even citizens, while Blacks still have issues that need to be addressed.

    That crazy quilt the Dems have is fragile.

    She also said there was nothing wrong with identity politics, including White identity. The times, they are a changin’.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @RichardTaylor

    Richard, if only that Black woman had been on PBS or MSNBC, then her remarks would be notable.

  12. The Democrats can only reliably count on the black vote in particular the black female vote. In order to make sure they turn out in sufficient numbers though they have to ramp up the racial or media hysteria up a notch.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Ed

    Won't the law of diminishing returns become a factor eventually?

    Replies: @Ed

  13. Gosh, imagine if the DNC had stuck with policies that appeal to people like pro-workers. Conservation, stable family formation, low crime, decent schools they might even get white people to vote for them.

    Is it possible some Hispanics realize that when we’re gone they are the next on the chopping block?

  14. @Ed
    The Democrats can only reliably count on the black vote in particular the black female vote. In order to make sure they turn out in sufficient numbers though they have to ramp up the racial or media hysteria up a notch.

    Replies: @Thea

    Won’t the law of diminishing returns become a factor eventually?

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Thea

    You’d think and a few savvier Dems are saying as much but alas that’s not the dominant thinking today among liberals and Dems.

    https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/1/29/16945106/democrats-white-working-class-demographics-alabama-clinton-obama-base



    The Daily Beast’s Kohn and others argue that heavy black turnout and support led to Jones’s victory — period. But Jones’s triumph was not attributable to his strong showing among black voters alone, or even a combination of black voters and white college graduates. My analysis indicates that Jones benefited from a margin swing of more than 30 points among white non-college voters, relative to the 2016 presidential race in the state.
     

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  15. Trumpy and the GOP might have had ulterior political motives by eliminating the federal income tax deduction for state and local taxes. Perhaps Trumpy thinks he can influence loads of Whites to sell their houses in states such as New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and other high tax states to avoid the tax hits coming their way by moving to Florida.

    Trumpy and the GOP know that Florida is being swamped by foreigners in a planned demographic deluge by the Democrats. The Democrats are doing everything in their power to flood the foreigners into Florida.

    Trumpy and the GOP will benefit if more Whites move to Florida. The question then becomes what percentage of those Whites leaving the high tax states to move to Florida will vote Trumpy and GOP?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charles, it is sadly funny to watch Andrew Cuomo, the recent architect of NYS's disfunction, trying to paint NY's high taxes as Trump's fault.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    , @c matt
    @Charles Pewitt

    "High tax" vs. "low tax" state is hard to estimate. For example, California is generally described as high tax compared to Texas, mainly because Texas has no state income tax. But California's property tax rate is anywhere from one half to one third of Texas's property tax rate. Additionally, Texas has traditionally f*cked over property owners by claiming not to raise the tax rates, and instead jacked up the property valuations to the same effect - essentially raising taxes 10% per year for the past 20 years or more.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @Stacy235l
    @Charles Pewitt


    by eliminating the federal income tax deduction for state and local taxes.
     
    It wasn't eliminated, just lowered to 10,000 dollars. That's still a lot to a middle class family.

    Perhaps Trumpy thinks he can influence loads of Whites to sell their houses in states such as New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and other high tax states to avoid the tax hits coming their way
     
    Nah, it's just a way to get wealthy people who support high federal taxes to actually pay them.
  16. OT

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/prison-family-life-sentences-mass-incarceration-philadelphia-pennsylvania.html

    “5 percent of families account for 50 percent of arrests.”

    “He found seven families in which a father, son and grandson were alll locked up together.”

    One subject of the article, from PR, learned English in prison.

    “He points to his research on adopted kids. ‘They resemble their biological parents in terms or criminality…”

    Uh-Oh!!!!!

  17. “Hispanics just don’t hate white people enough for the Democratic strategists. So, bring on the Muslims!”

    Switch from the one group which doesn’t really provoke deep animosity anywhere across the political spectrum to the one group viewed with suspicion all across it? That would be pretty boneheaded, wouldn’t it?

    Which kinda shows that Democrats are acting on principle when they decry Islamophobia. Muslim immigrants are negligible as a vote bank, carry some risk of provoking a backlash and complicate the anti-racist and anti-religious-fundamentalist message.

    • Replies: @unpc downunder
    @Vinay

    In modern Western politics, winning votes is secondary to pleasing donors. If Muslims donate to the Dems, the Dems will try to support Muslims. This may be a losing strategy in the long run, but it's been the dominant trend since the late 1960s.

  18. The elect a new people cabal must ruefully think, “If only Canada was a majority black country.”

    • Replies: @c matt
    @Oswald Spengler

    Ha! But Canadia is already a leftist utopia, so it's hard to get them to leave.

  19. “Hispanics just don’t hate white people enough for the Democratic strategists. So, bring on the Muslims!”

    Exactly.

  20. @bomag

    after their hometown in Puerto Rico, Vega Baja, was devastated by Hurricane Maria, one of the first things she did was to register herself and her mother to vote.
     
    I thought that after a catastrophic event, you next went to Disneyland

    There is a little too much glee in the article. I would think people would have a sense of loss, and some desire to rebuild/go back. Apparently, they are just rail meat that shuffles in and votes D.

    Replies: @Corn, @Neoconned

    I’ve noticed that too. Puerto Ricans rebuilding Puerto Rico isn’t really a priority to Dems. Just get ‘em to Florida and get ‘em registered!

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Corn

    There is an opening here for whites to move to and develop PR inexpensively. Just learn Spanish and presto! You are no longer white. Dems can't complain.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope

  21. Hispanics of whatever variety strike me as being more cynical about the motives of politicians. Their own political types are usually avaricious and extremely crooked. The true believer go-getter voter in the article seems to be atypical. Why get excited over some shifty crooks?

  22. The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries. They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life. A big part of political activism is concern for the future and your posterity. If your future lies somewhere else, local politics is not all that inspiring.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @The Z Blog


    The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries. They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life.
     
    And yet the PR population in the USA keeps on growing......
    , @Corvinus
    @The Z Blog

    "The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries."

    Except when there is a devastating natural disaster. Then all bets are off. Puerto Ricans are seizing the opportunity to come to the mainland and remain in the states permanently, since wages are higher. When the infrastructure is destroyed and beaches washed away, there is little enjoyment left.

    "They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life."

    Not particularly. Perhaps you would do well to address your own mischaracterizations on your podcast.

    https://www.monroecollege.edu/uploadedFiles/_Site_Assets/PDF/BASIL-WILSON%20-%20Caribbean%20Immigrants.pdf

    https://sites.dartmouth.edu/censushistory/2016/10/31/the-races-occupations-and-incomes-of-latin-caribbean-and-afro-caribbean-immigrants-to-the-new-york-and-florida/

    , @CrunchybutRealistCon
    @The Z Blog

    Partly true. Would argue that a lot of folks from both PR, DR, & Bahamas initially come to the mainland with a view to working for 5-10 years, then returning home. However, the impression you get from Caribbean communities in the northeast is that they eventually get too embedded in towns in NY, CT, & MA....and only return for chunks of the winter for extended vacations. Perhaps many plan to return south upon retirement, but I suspect even that looks less inviting as the social fabric there gets ever more porous. I think the influx to FL will be better measured politically in 2024 or later.

    , @Travis
    @The Z Blog

    From my experience with Dominicans, their children do not want to go back to the DR. The best friend of my wife is Dominican. Maria is the eldest of 14. Her mother arrived first and sponsored her 14 children. Maria immigrated to America when she was 21, with her husband and child. She had 3 more kids in New York..Her 4 children always complained when she took them for vacation to the DR , but her husband did move back to the DR when they divorced 10 years ago. The parents of Maria and all her Siblings live in the United States, mostly New York, some in Florida and Texas....none of them plan on returning to the DR. While many of the men do want to return, because they can live better, their children and spouses want to stay here.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corn

  23. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    I think the growth in the number of Muslims in the coming years will be explosive. I think there will be a real boom soon. In fact, in places like Orlando, Muslims have been shooting through the roof ...

    Replies: @oddsbodkins, @AndrewR

    Their numbers will skyrocket, as in Gaza.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @oddsbodkins


    Their numbers will skyrocket, as in Gaza.
     
    Hamas is too mas?
  24. Big business Democrats would rather bring in more Indians with the H1-B visa scheme. Higher incomes to tax, lower wages in the growing tech sectors, lower crime, pro-big government, lower assimilation, anti-Christian, and much more reliable contributors and voters for the Democrats than Hispanics. It’s a win-win-win-win-win for them.

  25. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    I think the growth in the number of Muslims in the coming years will be explosive. I think there will be a real boom soon. In fact, in places like Orlando, Muslims have been shooting through the roof ...

    Replies: @oddsbodkins, @AndrewR

    Eye sea watt ewe did their.

  26. “The Socialist, quite as much as the capitalist, is really taking advantage of the chaos of capitalism. He is taking advantage of things being displaced not to put them back in their places, but to rearrange them on an entirely new and rather unnatural plan of his own. ” —G.K.Chesterton

  27. Kissimmee is a suburb south of Orlando. US Hwy 192 aka Irlo Bronson Parkway goes thru there. It’s closer to Disney than Orlando proper so it is a tourist mecca.

    I used to stay there every time I went to Disney as a kid

    I was there in the early 1990s, I think 95 and then again from 98-01. We’d go every December and spend like two weeks there. Back then the motels were all brand name….. Holiday Inn, Days Inn, etc

    Nothing special but brand named. There used to be like ten IHOPs and ten Denny’s every few miles. Then they had every single buffet chain: Ponderosa Steakhouse, Sizzler, Friendly Diner, Shoneys, Ryan’s Steakhouse, so forth and then legions of designer clothing stores and t-shirt stores in strip malls. A big Walmart etc.

    I went back after 2001 only once. Christmas 05/New Year’s 06….that yr I stayed about 20 miles to the west in a suburb called Claremont. It was as if the Hispanics from 01-05 had taken over. It used to be ALL white and Asian tourists. By 05 it was half Latin at the theme parks. We took a drive in our rental car to look at Kissimmee to find a place to eat.

    ALL the old motels were either out of business or had been converted to no name motels. Instead of Days Inn now it was Palm Suites or some such. Some Hindu knockoffs.

    The Quality Inn I stayed at in 99-01 by the Florida Turnpike had this IHOP in it that used to be run by this gay black dude named Tweety, and no, I can never forget that.

    When I was there in 2005 the IHOP had been shuttered and the Quality Inn was now vacant and for sale. There used to be DOZENS of restaurants in Kissimmee if not over a hundred if not HUNDREDS….and that was just on the tourist strip there.

    When I returned in 05 there were TWO RESTAURANTS left that weren’t boarded up. A Mexican place & a Cuban restaurant with a sign hanging off a cheap printed banner.

    ALL the diners, IHOPs, Denny’s, fast food, Sizzler type steakhouses were ALL shuttered.

    All closed down. It was as if a tornado or an economic depression had hit the town.

    Last I checked it was almost 70% Latino. I read online few years back in the comments of a news article that most of those old motels that catered to tourists….the ones that weren’t bulldozed to the ground are actually now makeshift apartments….the Hindu motel hustlers take Section 8 and disability check money and rent out rooms to…..NO SHIT….. Puerto Rican transplants.

    The old motels that catered to international and middle class tourists are now glorified Section 8 projects…..NO I AM NOT exaggerating….

    Where I live the Ricans have caused rents to rise because they live 3 families to a house.

    You used to be able to rent a dumpy effieciency apartment for like $300-400 bucks….now it’s $600-700 if you’re lucky.

    I’ll give them 1 thing….some of them work.

    And unlike blacks and white drugger trash who wander around shuffling on the sidewalk in a trance….if you leave the PRs alone…..they leave you alone.

  28. @bomag

    after their hometown in Puerto Rico, Vega Baja, was devastated by Hurricane Maria, one of the first things she did was to register herself and her mother to vote.
     
    I thought that after a catastrophic event, you next went to Disneyland

    There is a little too much glee in the article. I would think people would have a sense of loss, and some desire to rebuild/go back. Apparently, they are just rail meat that shuffles in and votes D.

    Replies: @Corn, @Neoconned

    The Latinos in the 90s were below a quarter of the population in Kissimmee. It was still white, Asian and American black back then.

    Now they’ve turned the old tourist motels into makeshift Section 8 housing and turned Kissimmee into a rathole….but hey even that apparently is preferable to their island paradise….

  29. @IHTG
    The Democrat plan right now seems more like "bring on the middle-aged suburban feminists".

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Nico, @nebulafox

    Agreed. They really haven’t learned anything from Hillary’s loss. It seems they still think their contrived neo civil rights movements + homomania + YAS QUEEN slay + vapid celebrity support is the winning formula. It’s honestly pretty funny.

    If Republicans were to quit sucking up to evangelicals so much then Trump could probably win 52-55 % of the popular vote in 2020.

  30. One reason Democrats have become so enthusiastic about importing more Muslims into the U.S. is because their former favorite immigrant group, the Hispanics, seem to lack the fire in the belly to crush the white guy’s party the way Democrats had imagined they would.

    Yeah, that’s the key problem with the Latinx. They are mediocre at everything, even racial hatred for YT.

    • LOL: BB753
  31. Make the pie bigger for Hispanics – by making it bigger for everyone.

    The 1% keeps 3/5ths to itself and makes the rest fight over table scraps.
    The 1% keeps the subject about the phenotypical qualities it shares with 60% of the bottom 1/5th, not about the assets that distinguish them from everyone else.
    The 1% makes sure that the law enforces a system of employment spoils by which labor wealth is distributed on the basis of phenotype, not on the basis of either need or qualification – which keeps the law and the MSM from paying attention to the fact that the 1% is keeping 3/5ths to itself and making the rest fight over table scraps.

    By focusing on polyanna program to try to expel 11 million Hispanics here illegally the right plays into adversarial hands and sets itself on an uphill battle to convince those here legally, and for good, that they likely hold shared interests. Unless the end-game is secession or civil war – that would seem to be a pretty bad strategy.

    Hispanics contend with the same economic hurdles as the white working class and middle class.
    Hispanics are no greater friends to the 1% as the white working class or middle class, and are no more loved by the same.

    Preoccupy yourself with “mestizo” if you wish. There’s more profit in learning about the original “reconquista”, about the Visigoths, about Ignatius of Loyola. Odds are good the table scraps of Classical Western Education that you thrive on account of, trace themselves to nearby and far away schools that you can thank the latter for. Western culture is common ground.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    >By focusing on polyanna program to try to expel 11 million Hispanics here illegally the right plays into adversarial hands and sets itself on an uphill battle to convince those here legally, and for good, that they likely hold shared interests. Unless the end-game is secession or civil war – that would seem to be a pretty bad strategy.

    Which is why, rather than a wall, the primary focus of the Trump Administration should simply make economic and social conditions so hostile for illegal aliens that most will be left with little future in the US. If you can't buy food to eat because no employer will risk hiring you, go to a hospital, call the police, send your kids to school, it doesn't matter how rich the US is, you'll go home. And once there, you'll tell people not to try it. A nice little add is the fact that friendly police departments in sanctuary cities would likely collaborate with ICE behind the politician's backs. PR problem and illegal problem solved in one blow. Will we get rid of all 11 million using this method? Probably not. Will we get rid of a lot of that 11 million? Probably. And should the fact that we can't get rid of 11 million be used, as the Democrats would have it, as an excuse for deporting none? Hell no.

    Mind, better border security is a wise idea: but that's primarily because Mexico is a narco-state than anything else. And if Mexico explodes in the future, that might mean the populace becomes far more embracing of a border wall.

    However, if we going to make America less of an oligarchy, legal immigration will have to be far more selective and controlled in the future. There's no way around that one.

  32. @IHTG
    The Democrat plan right now seems more like "bring on the middle-aged suburban feminists".

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Nico, @nebulafox

    That was so last fall. Unlimited migration is the flavor of Winter 2018, and it is now being said so explicitly.

  33. OT:

    Neoconned says: “…There used to be DOZENS of restaurants in Kissimmee if not over a hundred if not HUNDREDS….and that was just on the tourist strip there. When I returned in 05 there were TWO RESTAURANTS left that weren’t boarded up. A Mexican place & a Cuban restaurant with a sign hanging off a cheap printed banner. ALL the diners, IHOPs, Denny’s, fast food, Sizzler type steakhouses were ALL shuttered. All closed down. It was as if a tornado or an economic depression had hit the town. …”

    Most of the hotels and restaurants were driven out by Disney’s own properties. Disney World slowly morphed into a casino-like enclave — it is now managed and marketed so as to draw all tourist dollars inside its walls and surrender no economic benefit to the surrounding community.

    • Agree: Triumph104
  34. the Hispanics, seem to lack the fire in the belly to crush the white guy’s party the way Democrats had imagined they would.

    The fact that many hispanics are not feeding into race-over-country loyalty and tribal voting warfare is a testament to a positive group quality of hispanics.

  35. Hispanics just don’t hate white people enough for the Democratic strategists. So, bring on the Muslims!

    Even Muslims don’t hate ‘whites’ per se. They just hate non-Muslims, regardless of race. They are quite content to kill other Muslims too, if non-Muslims are not around (most victims of terrorism are other Muslims).

    The most radical Muslims tend to be in the Middle East (the leaders of radical groups in Afghanistan have in fact been Saudis, Yemenis, and Egyptians). Genetically, the Middle East (at least the part of it above the Tropic of Cancer) is the next closest thing to Europe.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Thomm

    Then there are the Bosniaks... who are, quite literally, white Muslims. (Look up what happened to a guy named Zemir Begic. Being Muslim didn't save him. His murder was so ignored by the MSM that they ended up asking themselves why they didn't pay attention to it.) Iranians, in a certain sense, are too: the word "Aryan" comes from Persia. Farsi is an Indo-Aryan language, not a Semitic one, making it surprisingly easy for English speakers to pick up. It is funny: Persia had the same influence on the Arab caliphate that the Greeks had on their Roman conquerors-the Abbasids got far more Persianized, both in government and culture, just as the Romans were Hellenized. "Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artes intulit agresti Latio." Then there are Islamized Turkic peoples, in Central Asia and Russia as well as in Turkey.

    Saudi prominence in Sunni radical movements is aided by the sinister shade of Riyadh's funding of Wahabbi movements. While Islamism in places like Dhaka or Jakarta isn't *caused* by that (complex mix of factors, above all urbanization giving people more of a need for an identity. The New Order falling in Indonesia also had an impact), it is definitely exacerbated by it. Bangladesh and Indonesia are still poor countries that can't really afford to say no to Saudi money, even if the saner people in the government know where it will end up.

    Replies: @snorlax

  36. @Corn
    @bomag

    I’ve noticed that too. Puerto Ricans rebuilding Puerto Rico isn’t really a priority to Dems. Just get ‘em to Florida and get ‘em registered!

    Replies: @Thea

    There is an opening here for whites to move to and develop PR inexpensively. Just learn Spanish and presto! You are no longer white. Dems can’t complain.

    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    @Thea

    I've thought something similar. As the population of Puerto Rico continues to fall, maybe young alt-right whites could start moving in and eventually become the demographic majority. If red-pilled whites moved in and overwhelmed the existing population, learning Spanish would be unnecessary. The locals would eventually give up and leave the island. Florida, New York, and New Jersey would be even more appealing to them.

    This scenario would require some tough white guys not afraid to fight. But there are lots of them out there. It is not something that would happen overnight. But for those who dream of a Whitopia, a beautiful island in the Caribbean is a pretty nice landing spot.

    Improbable, yes. Impossible? Check with the Cherokees, Choctaws, Apaches, etc... . They will will tell you otherwise.

    Replies: @syonredux

  37. One thing it is important to remember is that the Hispanics who are more likely to vote consistently in the coming decades will be the ones who are upwardly mobile. Downwardly mobile whites who marry Hispanics tend to assimilate into Hispanic culture-but upwardly mobile Hispanics who marry whites (or in particularly high-functioning cases, Asians) tend to assimilate to mainstream American culture. This makes sense when you consider the *extremely* class stratified nature of Meso-American culture. That’s a big problem for the Democratic strategy. The disdain that the more affluent classes in Central America feel for the dusky masses is palpable, a very deeply embedded trait stemming from the Spaniard colonization. This disdain is adopted by anybody from the lower classes who manages to break the barrier and “make it”. Illogical to assume the immigrants, or at least the first wave, don’t carry these attitudes with them. All the more remarkable to realize that white bien-pensants seem not to pick up on this, since they do pick up very well on the fact that they make better serfs than American whites or blacks do.

    (It’s interesting to see how Hispanic subgroups differ. I don’t think it would surprise many here that Florida Cubans and NYC Puerto Ricans display opposite socioeconomic success and voting patterns. Guess which one reliably votes more? Another comparison: the northern states of Mexico, while still highly dangerous thanks to the drug war, tend to be far more affluent than El Salvador or southern Mexico. Not coincidentally given racial stratification in Latin America, they are also more Spanish or European immigrant blooded.)

    If the GOP decides not to be stupid in the future and ditches the Norquist types in exchange for an economic ideology that prioritizes overall societal success/stability first and foremost, and thus aims at “making the market work” for ordinary Americans rather than billionaires, restoring traditional American yeoman independence, they can have their cake and eat it too. They can both pick up the Rust Belt whites they need, and increase their numbers among minorities-especially upwardly mobile ones.

    RichardTaylor:

    Being disproportionately working class, blacks are logically hurt by mass low-skilled illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants, as Ron Unz pointed out in his excellent papers on the minimum wage, crime, etc, by and large occupy jobs that would have been taken by teenagers starting out in the job market and low-income/education citizens in the past. No amount of DNC propaganda can hide elementary economic realities indefinitely, and as demographic dynamics in places like Boyle Heights should show, Latin-black relations do have their tensions. Like Asians, Hispanics don’t have a guilt complex toward blacks, and come from cultures with less than politically correct views about Africans and dark skinned people in general. I deem it rather unlikely they are going to be satisfied with their current second fiddle status toward blacks in the Democratic Party going forward, especially for subgroups that get more affluent.

  38. @anonymouslee
    Steve, what are you so cheerful about?

    Youre always talking about how so-and-so was wrong about the Latino Wave in 2004. So what?

    Over what timeline are you so sanguine? What do you imagine will happen to Texas and Florida?

    What Republican party are you talking about without Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona, Colorado?

    Show your work. All of the cities in Texas are Democratic. Dallas wasn't always blue and they'll be saying the same about the state of Texas. It's only getting more Latino, more Asian/Indian, more California transplant lib, and less old cowboy by the day. The population trends don't lie. Extremely blue Austin is exploding and the old rural population is collapsing.

    Why are we ever talking about how your analysis shows that Romney's vote totals in Arizona were slightly underrated by whomever?

    How is that relevant to the loss of the country, the nation of heritage Americans as a historical, social, cultural, and political entity?

    Do you imagine you have some larger point here? Like the "doomsayers" are wrong because youre right when it comes to counting how many Latino votes fit on a pinhead?

    Are you aware, at all, that California was lost to heritage-Americans in your lifetime? Lost forever. Gone. America's greatest state, which happened to be the Republican center of power, is no longer part of America. It's magic dirt, alright, and the numbers are real: heritage-Americans have been ethnically cleansed from Ronald Reagan's home. Hell, my Nixon appointee grandfather lived in the beating heart, Orange County, through the 1990s. My children will hear about that like some Palestinian refugee's child being told about the family's once and future olive groves.

    Are you aware that white babies were a minority last year? That this isn't hypothetical?

    Are you aware that the Democratic trend in Texas is real? That it doesn't matter if some idiot like Jorge Ramos predicts the wrong year if you have no reason at all to see the trend reversing?

    Do you understand that your calendar victories don't matter at all?

    Do you get that 28 years from now I'll be younger than you are now? That we aren't talking about geological time scales here?


    How, in detail, does your Overestimated Latino Bias have anything to do with my children having America as a country?

    And if it doesn't have anything to do with that question then why are you talking politics at all? Why not go directly to tee times and cruises and the price of fiddles during a fire? Do you talk to someone with terminal cancer about whether global warming will affect his health in 30 years?

    Anyone who doesn't have an explicit idea of how to REVERSE--NOT SLOW--the demographic meltdown has abdicated any right to voice an opinion. If you fall into this camp, it's time to stop speaking and start listening.

    If you fall into this camp you may NOT:

    Talk about how you need a safe space without white nationalism;

    Explain how you wouldn't have voted for some bills in 1965 so we wouldn't be in this mess right now;

    Say, like Steve, that your "strategy" is to merely assert, like a child, that everything would be fine if everyone were reasonable just like me;

    Duck your responsibilities because you don't want to feel icky;

    Abandon your duty because it will cost you personal comfort, security or wealth.





    Allow me to be clear: everyone must be able to answer these questions. Nobody is responsible for having the perfect tactical plan that will guarantee success. All are required to explicate their reasoning in terms of how it will secure this nation for heritage-Americans and our posterity. If you can't work back from A to B in these terms then you're on the wrong track and the light at the end of your tunnel is coming straight towards us.

    Talking about politics orthogonal to the 14 words is like dancing to architecture. We have been patient with people who prefer clutching pearls but it's becoming impossible to make excuses for those who can see.

    It is time for a choosing.

    Replies: @Nico, @Berty, @36 ulster, @The Practical Conservative, @cynthia curran

    Anyone who doesn’t have an explicit idea of how to REVERSE–NOT SLOW–the demographic meltdown has abdicated any right to voice an opinion. If you fall into this camp, it’s time to stop speaking and start listening.

    I will admit that I don’t have an explicit idea of any doable *action* that can be initiated on our side although I do have more than a modicum of an idea what kind of *reaction* would be necessary in certain scenarios. I would however be all ears to suggestions. Like yourself, I view the mounting numbers of “those” people in Western countries as an existential threat to the kind of society I like to live in, and possibly to my own life and to the lives of people I love. I would definitely be up for a calm discussion on whether there may be a humane means of reducing these numbers.

    On the whole, though, I think you are right. We need to start with the premise that we need scores of millions *fewer* POCs in the West, and go from there.

  39. @Thomm

    Hispanics just don’t hate white people enough for the Democratic strategists. So, bring on the Muslims!
     
    Even Muslims don't hate 'whites' per se. They just hate non-Muslims, regardless of race. They are quite content to kill other Muslims too, if non-Muslims are not around (most victims of terrorism are other Muslims).

    The most radical Muslims tend to be in the Middle East (the leaders of radical groups in Afghanistan have in fact been Saudis, Yemenis, and Egyptians). Genetically, the Middle East (at least the part of it above the Tropic of Cancer) is the next closest thing to Europe.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Then there are the Bosniaks… who are, quite literally, white Muslims. (Look up what happened to a guy named Zemir Begic. Being Muslim didn’t save him. His murder was so ignored by the MSM that they ended up asking themselves why they didn’t pay attention to it.) Iranians, in a certain sense, are too: the word “Aryan” comes from Persia. Farsi is an Indo-Aryan language, not a Semitic one, making it surprisingly easy for English speakers to pick up. It is funny: Persia had the same influence on the Arab caliphate that the Greeks had on their Roman conquerors-the Abbasids got far more Persianized, both in government and culture, just as the Romans were Hellenized. “Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artes intulit agresti Latio.” Then there are Islamized Turkic peoples, in Central Asia and Russia as well as in Turkey.

    Saudi prominence in Sunni radical movements is aided by the sinister shade of Riyadh’s funding of Wahabbi movements. While Islamism in places like Dhaka or Jakarta isn’t *caused* by that (complex mix of factors, above all urbanization giving people more of a need for an identity. The New Order falling in Indonesia also had an impact), it is definitely exacerbated by it. Bangladesh and Indonesia are still poor countries that can’t really afford to say no to Saudi money, even if the saner people in the government know where it will end up.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @nebulafox

    Also, Chechens, Tatars, plus many Levantines (e.g. Assad and wife), Turks (Mustafa Kemal), Persians and Pashtuns.

  40. @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    Make the pie bigger for Hispanics - by making it bigger for everyone.

    The 1% keeps 3/5ths to itself and makes the rest fight over table scraps.
    The 1% keeps the subject about the phenotypical qualities it shares with 60% of the bottom 1/5th, not about the assets that distinguish them from everyone else.
    The 1% makes sure that the law enforces a system of employment spoils by which labor wealth is distributed on the basis of phenotype, not on the basis of either need or qualification - which keeps the law and the MSM from paying attention to the fact that the 1% is keeping 3/5ths to itself and making the rest fight over table scraps.

    By focusing on polyanna program to try to expel 11 million Hispanics here illegally the right plays into adversarial hands and sets itself on an uphill battle to convince those here legally, and for good, that they likely hold shared interests. Unless the end-game is secession or civil war - that would seem to be a pretty bad strategy.

    Hispanics contend with the same economic hurdles as the white working class and middle class.
    Hispanics are no greater friends to the 1% as the white working class or middle class, and are no more loved by the same.

    Preoccupy yourself with "mestizo" if you wish. There's more profit in learning about the original "reconquista", about the Visigoths, about Ignatius of Loyola. Odds are good the table scraps of Classical Western Education that you thrive on account of, trace themselves to nearby and far away schools that you can thank the latter for. Western culture is common ground.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    >By focusing on polyanna program to try to expel 11 million Hispanics here illegally the right plays into adversarial hands and sets itself on an uphill battle to convince those here legally, and for good, that they likely hold shared interests. Unless the end-game is secession or civil war – that would seem to be a pretty bad strategy.

    Which is why, rather than a wall, the primary focus of the Trump Administration should simply make economic and social conditions so hostile for illegal aliens that most will be left with little future in the US. If you can’t buy food to eat because no employer will risk hiring you, go to a hospital, call the police, send your kids to school, it doesn’t matter how rich the US is, you’ll go home. And once there, you’ll tell people not to try it. A nice little add is the fact that friendly police departments in sanctuary cities would likely collaborate with ICE behind the politician’s backs. PR problem and illegal problem solved in one blow. Will we get rid of all 11 million using this method? Probably not. Will we get rid of a lot of that 11 million? Probably. And should the fact that we can’t get rid of 11 million be used, as the Democrats would have it, as an excuse for deporting none? Hell no.

    Mind, better border security is a wise idea: but that’s primarily because Mexico is a narco-state than anything else. And if Mexico explodes in the future, that might mean the populace becomes far more embracing of a border wall.

    However, if we going to make America less of an oligarchy, legal immigration will have to be far more selective and controlled in the future. There’s no way around that one.

  41. @IHTG
    The Democrat plan right now seems more like "bring on the middle-aged suburban feminists".

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Nico, @nebulafox

    Never a more reliable formula for ensuring that non-soyboy men below a certain age never bother to vote Democrat than having that be their major image.

  42. @anonymouslee
    Steve, what are you so cheerful about?

    Youre always talking about how so-and-so was wrong about the Latino Wave in 2004. So what?

    Over what timeline are you so sanguine? What do you imagine will happen to Texas and Florida?

    What Republican party are you talking about without Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona, Colorado?

    Show your work. All of the cities in Texas are Democratic. Dallas wasn't always blue and they'll be saying the same about the state of Texas. It's only getting more Latino, more Asian/Indian, more California transplant lib, and less old cowboy by the day. The population trends don't lie. Extremely blue Austin is exploding and the old rural population is collapsing.

    Why are we ever talking about how your analysis shows that Romney's vote totals in Arizona were slightly underrated by whomever?

    How is that relevant to the loss of the country, the nation of heritage Americans as a historical, social, cultural, and political entity?

    Do you imagine you have some larger point here? Like the "doomsayers" are wrong because youre right when it comes to counting how many Latino votes fit on a pinhead?

    Are you aware, at all, that California was lost to heritage-Americans in your lifetime? Lost forever. Gone. America's greatest state, which happened to be the Republican center of power, is no longer part of America. It's magic dirt, alright, and the numbers are real: heritage-Americans have been ethnically cleansed from Ronald Reagan's home. Hell, my Nixon appointee grandfather lived in the beating heart, Orange County, through the 1990s. My children will hear about that like some Palestinian refugee's child being told about the family's once and future olive groves.

    Are you aware that white babies were a minority last year? That this isn't hypothetical?

    Are you aware that the Democratic trend in Texas is real? That it doesn't matter if some idiot like Jorge Ramos predicts the wrong year if you have no reason at all to see the trend reversing?

    Do you understand that your calendar victories don't matter at all?

    Do you get that 28 years from now I'll be younger than you are now? That we aren't talking about geological time scales here?


    How, in detail, does your Overestimated Latino Bias have anything to do with my children having America as a country?

    And if it doesn't have anything to do with that question then why are you talking politics at all? Why not go directly to tee times and cruises and the price of fiddles during a fire? Do you talk to someone with terminal cancer about whether global warming will affect his health in 30 years?

    Anyone who doesn't have an explicit idea of how to REVERSE--NOT SLOW--the demographic meltdown has abdicated any right to voice an opinion. If you fall into this camp, it's time to stop speaking and start listening.

    If you fall into this camp you may NOT:

    Talk about how you need a safe space without white nationalism;

    Explain how you wouldn't have voted for some bills in 1965 so we wouldn't be in this mess right now;

    Say, like Steve, that your "strategy" is to merely assert, like a child, that everything would be fine if everyone were reasonable just like me;

    Duck your responsibilities because you don't want to feel icky;

    Abandon your duty because it will cost you personal comfort, security or wealth.





    Allow me to be clear: everyone must be able to answer these questions. Nobody is responsible for having the perfect tactical plan that will guarantee success. All are required to explicate their reasoning in terms of how it will secure this nation for heritage-Americans and our posterity. If you can't work back from A to B in these terms then you're on the wrong track and the light at the end of your tunnel is coming straight towards us.

    Talking about politics orthogonal to the 14 words is like dancing to architecture. We have been patient with people who prefer clutching pearls but it's becoming impossible to make excuses for those who can see.

    It is time for a choosing.

    Replies: @Nico, @Berty, @36 ulster, @The Practical Conservative, @cynthia curran

    888 didn’t read shit

  43. Ah yes, I remember it well from the old days.

    “Pericles, these Hispanic gladiators are boring. They lack spirit. Amuse me.”
    “Yes, Emperor. (shouts to crew) Release the Muslims!”

  44. @anonymouslee
    Steve, what are you so cheerful about?

    Youre always talking about how so-and-so was wrong about the Latino Wave in 2004. So what?

    Over what timeline are you so sanguine? What do you imagine will happen to Texas and Florida?

    What Republican party are you talking about without Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona, Colorado?

    Show your work. All of the cities in Texas are Democratic. Dallas wasn't always blue and they'll be saying the same about the state of Texas. It's only getting more Latino, more Asian/Indian, more California transplant lib, and less old cowboy by the day. The population trends don't lie. Extremely blue Austin is exploding and the old rural population is collapsing.

    Why are we ever talking about how your analysis shows that Romney's vote totals in Arizona were slightly underrated by whomever?

    How is that relevant to the loss of the country, the nation of heritage Americans as a historical, social, cultural, and political entity?

    Do you imagine you have some larger point here? Like the "doomsayers" are wrong because youre right when it comes to counting how many Latino votes fit on a pinhead?

    Are you aware, at all, that California was lost to heritage-Americans in your lifetime? Lost forever. Gone. America's greatest state, which happened to be the Republican center of power, is no longer part of America. It's magic dirt, alright, and the numbers are real: heritage-Americans have been ethnically cleansed from Ronald Reagan's home. Hell, my Nixon appointee grandfather lived in the beating heart, Orange County, through the 1990s. My children will hear about that like some Palestinian refugee's child being told about the family's once and future olive groves.

    Are you aware that white babies were a minority last year? That this isn't hypothetical?

    Are you aware that the Democratic trend in Texas is real? That it doesn't matter if some idiot like Jorge Ramos predicts the wrong year if you have no reason at all to see the trend reversing?

    Do you understand that your calendar victories don't matter at all?

    Do you get that 28 years from now I'll be younger than you are now? That we aren't talking about geological time scales here?


    How, in detail, does your Overestimated Latino Bias have anything to do with my children having America as a country?

    And if it doesn't have anything to do with that question then why are you talking politics at all? Why not go directly to tee times and cruises and the price of fiddles during a fire? Do you talk to someone with terminal cancer about whether global warming will affect his health in 30 years?

    Anyone who doesn't have an explicit idea of how to REVERSE--NOT SLOW--the demographic meltdown has abdicated any right to voice an opinion. If you fall into this camp, it's time to stop speaking and start listening.

    If you fall into this camp you may NOT:

    Talk about how you need a safe space without white nationalism;

    Explain how you wouldn't have voted for some bills in 1965 so we wouldn't be in this mess right now;

    Say, like Steve, that your "strategy" is to merely assert, like a child, that everything would be fine if everyone were reasonable just like me;

    Duck your responsibilities because you don't want to feel icky;

    Abandon your duty because it will cost you personal comfort, security or wealth.





    Allow me to be clear: everyone must be able to answer these questions. Nobody is responsible for having the perfect tactical plan that will guarantee success. All are required to explicate their reasoning in terms of how it will secure this nation for heritage-Americans and our posterity. If you can't work back from A to B in these terms then you're on the wrong track and the light at the end of your tunnel is coming straight towards us.

    Talking about politics orthogonal to the 14 words is like dancing to architecture. We have been patient with people who prefer clutching pearls but it's becoming impossible to make excuses for those who can see.

    It is time for a choosing.

    Replies: @Nico, @Berty, @36 ulster, @The Practical Conservative, @cynthia curran

    More rhetorical questions than any ten Pat Buchanan essays.

  45. The Black party AKA Democrat party , will regret granting amnesty to 7 million Hispanics…

  46. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Someone pointed out on another board that the reason the Dems are so fanatical about immigration is because blacks have poor voter turnout. Trump’s 2016 win proved that point. Unless Dems get another black candidate for the presidency, they will have a very rough time winning another presidential election unless they acquire supporters who bother to show up to vote for them on election day.

    This means Dems not only have to replace blacks with Hispanics, but Democratic leaders have to keep harping about issues that upset Hispanic voters, namely immigration. Dems use the topic of immigration to provoke Hispanics into frothing outrage much like Democratic Jews use the Holocaust to keep other Jews from straying into Republican-hood.

    Dems are also aiming to grow their support out of their coastal enclaves further into the heartland, and that means stuffing Hispanics all over the country to break up Republican voting blocs. Hispanics, however, have a tendency to breed with the natives in a way that blacks don’t, and they are in danger of becoming culturally white and starting to vote Republican. Thus the Dems realize they can only keep their support up by constantly importing new waves of immigrants who are always desperately needy, and who can be counted to vote for the party that promises to cater to those needs. If Trump deports illegals from the middle of the country, he’ll have those areas locked up for Republicans for generations to come, and Democrats know it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anon

    Someone pointed out on another board that the reason the Dems are so fanatical about immigration is because blacks have poor voter turnout.

    This has to be turned into a meme for easy consumption by blacks.

    Diversity is like a bulldozer to push blacks out of choice areas eyed by developers.

  47. Hispanics Let Down Democratic Party Once Again

    Republican President Lets Down White Core Americans Again

    Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to almost 3 million illegal alien invaders in 1986. President Trump is going to talk about giving amnesty to millions of illegal alien invaders when he gives the State of the Union address tonight.

    Ronald Reagan’s amnesty for illegal aliens and his support for mass legal immigration killed the GOP in California. Donald Trump’s proposed amnesty for illegal aliens will kill the United States as a sovereign nation.

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS!

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

  48. @George
    It may be that 'Hispanics' have their own agenda which does not mesh with the Ds or Rs. It will be interesting to see what happens if someone runs courting Hispanics.

    Daily Caller tries to shoehorn Cali Liberals into antiwar sentiments, but Cali liberals are actually extremely militaristic. So this guy actually does not fit in with any of the legacy categories.

    Liberal California Councilman And Teacher Tells Students Military Are ‘Dumbsh*ts’ And ‘Lowest Of Our Low’ [VIDEO]

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/27/teacher-says-military-lowest-of-our-low/

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    George, a lot, if not the majority, of Hispanics are Catholics, and some Baptists. Dem far left platform planks and fringe catering doesn’t appeal to them, and may actually offend them.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
    @Buffalo Joe

    I always wonder why any pro-life Christian, Hispanic or otherwise, would vote Democratic when the party platform makes a sacrament out of abortion on demand.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

  49. @MichiganMom
    OT
    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/prison-family-life-sentences-mass-incarceration-philadelphia-pennsylvania

    They touch on the nature /nurture aspect but strangely, comments are closed.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Ed

    MM, are you surprised that the comments are closed when the central figures in the article are repeat murders and drug dealers. Probably zero sympathy shown by the commenters.

    • Replies: @MichiganMom
    @Buffalo Joe

    No, I'm not surprised, especially if the comments were anything like what I was thinking while I read it. Lol

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  50. James Kirkpatrick Of VDARE.com Hammers Trump’s Amnesty For Illegal Aliens:

    This is a classic case of dealing from weakness, the opposite of what so many patriots who supported Donald Trump were hoping for. The DACA Amnesty was completely unconstitutional, something for which President Obama would have been impeached if America was still a self-respecting country, if Republicans were a real political party rather than controlled opposition, and if the “rule of law” was anything more than a punchline.

    Electing Donald Trump president was a desperate attempt by the Historic American Nation to rebel against its planned dispossession, a “storming of the cockpit” to remove the sociopaths who captured the state and planned to kill off the nation. But President Trump’s decision to award concessions to DACA recipients removes the whole purpose of his campaign. If America is to be killed off, better it had come at the hands of Hillary Clinton.

    A DACA Amnesty would be catastrophic, almost regardless of what “compromise” is reached. There is no upper limit on the number of illegals to be given Amnesty under President Trump’s proposal and there’s no guarantee any wall would actually be built under current legislation, just that money would be set aside.[Trump’s Draft Amnesty: Unlimited, Forever, And Before A Wall Is Built, by Neil Munro, Breitbart, January 27, 2018]

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/4-d-chess-daca-final-test-if-trump-knows-what-hes-doing-spoiler-answer-is-no-if-he-doesnt-propose-taxing-remittances?content=January%2028,%202018

  51. @RichardTaylor
    A Black woman, who was a Bernie supporter, was on Fox News saying the Black community is taken aback that the Dems would shut down the gov't for the sake of people who aren't even citizens, while Blacks still have issues that need to be addressed.

    That crazy quilt the Dems have is fragile.

    She also said there was nothing wrong with identity politics, including White identity. The times, they are a changin'.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Richard, if only that Black woman had been on PBS or MSNBC, then her remarks would be notable.

  52. @Charles Pewitt
    Trumpy and the GOP might have had ulterior political motives by eliminating the federal income tax deduction for state and local taxes. Perhaps Trumpy thinks he can influence loads of Whites to sell their houses in states such as New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and other high tax states to avoid the tax hits coming their way by moving to Florida.

    Trumpy and the GOP know that Florida is being swamped by foreigners in a planned demographic deluge by the Democrats. The Democrats are doing everything in their power to flood the foreigners into Florida.

    Trumpy and the GOP will benefit if more Whites move to Florida. The question then becomes what percentage of those Whites leaving the high tax states to move to Florida will vote Trumpy and GOP?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @c matt, @Stacy235l

    Charles, it is sadly funny to watch Andrew Cuomo, the recent architect of NYS’s disfunction, trying to paint NY’s high taxes as Trump’s fault.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Buffalo Joe

    All I know about New York State politics is that two of the top politicians went to the slammer on corruption charges. Apparently, in New York State, the governor and the leaders of the legislature negotiate everything and what they say goes.

    In New Hampshire there was a lady state political leader who used to tell all the other state reps how to vote by holding up a ping pong paddle a certain way. Green meant vote yes and red meant vote no.

    So yes, the governor of New York and the two top dogs in the state legislature are responsible for the high tax rate in New York. Municipal government workers got fat on property taxes and state government workers got fat on state income taxes. Fun, Fun, Fun till Trumpy took the state and local tax deductions away.

    High tax states like New York are going to be hit hard by the new federal government tax laws.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  53. @Thea
    @Corn

    There is an opening here for whites to move to and develop PR inexpensively. Just learn Spanish and presto! You are no longer white. Dems can't complain.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    I’ve thought something similar. As the population of Puerto Rico continues to fall, maybe young alt-right whites could start moving in and eventually become the demographic majority. If red-pilled whites moved in and overwhelmed the existing population, learning Spanish would be unnecessary. The locals would eventually give up and leave the island. Florida, New York, and New Jersey would be even more appealing to them.

    This scenario would require some tough white guys not afraid to fight. But there are lots of them out there. It is not something that would happen overnight. But for those who dream of a Whitopia, a beautiful island in the Caribbean is a pretty nice landing spot.

    Improbable, yes. Impossible? Check with the Cherokees, Choctaws, Apaches, etc… . They will will tell you otherwise.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Mis(ter)Anthrope


    But for those who dream of a Whitopia, a beautiful island in the Caribbean is a pretty nice landing spot.
     
    Europeans were not made for the tropics.

    Replies: @Karl

  54. @nebulafox
    @Thomm

    Then there are the Bosniaks... who are, quite literally, white Muslims. (Look up what happened to a guy named Zemir Begic. Being Muslim didn't save him. His murder was so ignored by the MSM that they ended up asking themselves why they didn't pay attention to it.) Iranians, in a certain sense, are too: the word "Aryan" comes from Persia. Farsi is an Indo-Aryan language, not a Semitic one, making it surprisingly easy for English speakers to pick up. It is funny: Persia had the same influence on the Arab caliphate that the Greeks had on their Roman conquerors-the Abbasids got far more Persianized, both in government and culture, just as the Romans were Hellenized. "Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artes intulit agresti Latio." Then there are Islamized Turkic peoples, in Central Asia and Russia as well as in Turkey.

    Saudi prominence in Sunni radical movements is aided by the sinister shade of Riyadh's funding of Wahabbi movements. While Islamism in places like Dhaka or Jakarta isn't *caused* by that (complex mix of factors, above all urbanization giving people more of a need for an identity. The New Order falling in Indonesia also had an impact), it is definitely exacerbated by it. Bangladesh and Indonesia are still poor countries that can't really afford to say no to Saudi money, even if the saner people in the government know where it will end up.

    Replies: @snorlax

    Also, Chechens, Tatars, plus many Levantines (e.g. Assad and wife), Turks (Mustafa Kemal), Persians and Pashtuns.

  55. @Charles Pewitt
    Trumpy and the GOP might have had ulterior political motives by eliminating the federal income tax deduction for state and local taxes. Perhaps Trumpy thinks he can influence loads of Whites to sell their houses in states such as New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and other high tax states to avoid the tax hits coming their way by moving to Florida.

    Trumpy and the GOP know that Florida is being swamped by foreigners in a planned demographic deluge by the Democrats. The Democrats are doing everything in their power to flood the foreigners into Florida.

    Trumpy and the GOP will benefit if more Whites move to Florida. The question then becomes what percentage of those Whites leaving the high tax states to move to Florida will vote Trumpy and GOP?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @c matt, @Stacy235l

    “High tax” vs. “low tax” state is hard to estimate. For example, California is generally described as high tax compared to Texas, mainly because Texas has no state income tax. But California’s property tax rate is anywhere from one half to one third of Texas’s property tax rate. Additionally, Texas has traditionally f*cked over property owners by claiming not to raise the tax rates, and instead jacked up the property valuations to the same effect – essentially raising taxes 10% per year for the past 20 years or more.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @c matt

    Good points about Texas and about States with no income tax socking it to ya some other way, such as property taxes.

    But the total tax burden on a typical middle-income or upper-middle-income person is still higher in California, lower in Texas. Not even close for most upper-middle-income people.

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494/

  56. @Oswald Spengler
    The elect a new people cabal must ruefully think, "If only Canada was a majority black country."

    Replies: @c matt

    Ha! But Canadia is already a leftist utopia, so it’s hard to get them to leave.

  57. California will be the state that succumbs to Hispanics. Soon, by law, when you apply for a drivers license, regardless of whether you are a citizen or not, they don’t ask, you will be automatically registered to vote. Again, whether you are a citizen or not!

    • Replies: @jJay
    @Buffalo Joe

    California will be the state that succumbs to Hispanics. Soon...

    I get your snark, but where did all the CA white working class people go when they were displaced? Colorado and Oregon, popular destinations for the white CA dispora, turned blue shortly thereafter.

    I don't have an answer to that. You'd think placing your hand over the hot stove once would be enough, but it isn't.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  58. @The Z Blog
    The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries. They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life. A big part of political activism is concern for the future and your posterity. If your future lies somewhere else, local politics is not all that inspiring.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Corvinus, @CrunchybutRealistCon, @Travis

    The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries. They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life.

    And yet the PR population in the USA keeps on growing……

  59. @Buffalo Joe
    California will be the state that succumbs to Hispanics. Soon, by law, when you apply for a drivers license, regardless of whether you are a citizen or not, they don't ask, you will be automatically registered to vote. Again, whether you are a citizen or not!

    Replies: @jJay

    California will be the state that succumbs to Hispanics. Soon…

    I get your snark, but where did all the CA white working class people go when they were displaced? Colorado and Oregon, popular destinations for the white CA dispora, turned blue shortly thereafter.

    I don’t have an answer to that. You’d think placing your hand over the hot stove once would be enough, but it isn’t.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @jJay

    jJay, I may not have stated my point strongly enough. A new law in California automatically registers an applicant to vote when they apply for a drivers license. No questions allowed about citizenship.

  60. @Buffalo Joe
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charles, it is sadly funny to watch Andrew Cuomo, the recent architect of NYS's disfunction, trying to paint NY's high taxes as Trump's fault.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    All I know about New York State politics is that two of the top politicians went to the slammer on corruption charges. Apparently, in New York State, the governor and the leaders of the legislature negotiate everything and what they say goes.

    In New Hampshire there was a lady state political leader who used to tell all the other state reps how to vote by holding up a ping pong paddle a certain way. Green meant vote yes and red meant vote no.

    So yes, the governor of New York and the two top dogs in the state legislature are responsible for the high tax rate in New York. Municipal government workers got fat on property taxes and state government workers got fat on state income taxes. Fun, Fun, Fun till Trumpy took the state and local tax deductions away.

    High tax states like New York are going to be hit hard by the new federal government tax laws.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charles, and remember you can still deduct up to $10,000 in NYS taxes on your Federal form. The house around the corner from me, beautiful custom build on 6 acres, pays $28,000 per year in property taxes. It sold for $780,000 when the former owner took an out of state transfer.

  61. @Anonymous
    Steve, you have to remember that Florida is a special case, populated largely by fanatically anticommunist Cuban Hispanics who are loyal Republican voters.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Steve, you have to remember that Florida is a special case, populated largely by fanatically anticommunist Cuban Hispanics who are loyal Republican voters.

    You are at least 20 years behind the times. Under 40 years old Cuban Americans trend Democrat plus Hispanics in Florida used to mean Cubans. Now it means the full array of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans, South Americans, lots of Colombians and Venezuelans and others. Lots of Brazilians too.

    All Florida Hispanics lumped together are 65%+ Democrat voters…if voting. Seems voting is not high on their list. California Hispanic politics are dominated by Mexican Americans. Cuban -Americans in FL do not have this kind of dominance anymore.

  62. @MichiganMom
    OT
    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/prison-family-life-sentences-mass-incarceration-philadelphia-pennsylvania

    They touch on the nature /nurture aspect but strangely, comments are closed.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Ed

    There’s a disclaimer in the beginning about the article not trying to excuse the inmates. The problem is they use term like “mass incarceration” as if the inmates are in there unjustly.

    These type of stories involving blacks & Puerto Rican thugs bring out a torrent of comments, many of them racist by msm standards. Washington Post blocks comments to most local crime stories.

    • Replies: @MichiganMom
    @Ed

    I was amused at how many of the inmates they featured claimed they were innocent. Lol. I'm not surprised comments were closed.

    Replies: @Ed

  63. Generally speaking, Hispanics probably aren’t very good at pressuring Democrat politicians into supporting their ethnic group. For a start, their ethnic group is a vague mixture of white and native American, and they aren’t known for their advanced social skills. Hence, they are being replaced by groups that are better at pressuring politicians to favour their ethnic group. Middle Eastern Muslims are probably good at this. They know how to charm people, and they know how to threaten people.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @unpc downunder

    Soon enough, sheer numbers will enable Mexicans as a bloc to control state government in California and Texas, as well as many county and city governments.

    The skills you're talking about often aren't as important when you have an absolute majority of the State's population, which is coming. California has a non-white majority, and it will likely come to have an outright specifically MEXICAN majority.

    Those Muslims will find it useful and almost necessary to learn Spanish, like the rest of us, but conversely the Mexicans won't live under sharia if they don't feel like it.

  64. @Buffalo Joe
    @George

    George, a lot, if not the majority, of Hispanics are Catholics, and some Baptists. Dem far left platform planks and fringe catering doesn't appeal to them, and may actually offend them.

    Replies: @Simply Simon

    I always wonder why any pro-life Christian, Hispanic or otherwise, would vote Democratic when the party platform makes a sacrament out of abortion on demand.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Simply Simon

    Simon, nice wording ....a sacrament out of abortion. I met a lady last week who spent 40 days in jail for protesting outside of an abortion clinic. I doubt you will find many SJWs willing to do jail time for their "beliefs."

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Simply Simon

    Has anyone ever seen a living, breathing Hispanic at a prolife rally? Like last week's? (Spanish nuns don't count.)

    Voting is a purely mercenary activity for most people. American abortionists have taken three black lives for every Jewish life taken by the NSDAP. Yet American blacks vote 19-1 for the abortionists' party.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Alden
    @Simply Simon

    Hispanics have the highest abortion rate.

  65. @Vinay
    “Hispanics just don’t hate white people enough for the Democratic strategists. So, bring on the Muslims!”

    Switch from the one group which doesn’t really provoke deep animosity anywhere across the political spectrum to the one group viewed with suspicion all across it? That would be pretty boneheaded, wouldn’t it?

    Which kinda shows that Democrats are acting on principle when they decry Islamophobia. Muslim immigrants are negligible as a vote bank, carry some risk of provoking a backlash and complicate the anti-racist and anti-religious-fundamentalist message.

    Replies: @unpc downunder

    In modern Western politics, winning votes is secondary to pleasing donors. If Muslims donate to the Dems, the Dems will try to support Muslims. This may be a losing strategy in the long run, but it’s been the dominant trend since the late 1960s.

  66. @Ed
    @MichiganMom

    There’s a disclaimer in the beginning about the article not trying to excuse the inmates. The problem is they use term like “mass incarceration” as if the inmates are in there unjustly.

    These type of stories involving blacks & Puerto Rican thugs bring out a torrent of comments, many of them racist by msm standards. Washington Post blocks comments to most local crime stories.

    Replies: @MichiganMom

    I was amused at how many of the inmates they featured claimed they were innocent. Lol. I’m not surprised comments were closed.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @MichiganMom

    The bullet riddled bodies found on the streets just ended up there. Nobody pulled the trigger, there are no guilty men in prison or that’s what many liberals believe.

    I was surprised to see the part about genetics and a decent explanation on how genetics isn’t fate. I think this subtle approach will make it easier for HBD type arguments to be made in greater frequency in acceptable mediums.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

  67. @Buffalo Joe
    @MichiganMom

    MM, are you surprised that the comments are closed when the central figures in the article are repeat murders and drug dealers. Probably zero sympathy shown by the commenters.

    Replies: @MichiganMom

    No, I’m not surprised, especially if the comments were anything like what I was thinking while I read it. Lol

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @MichiganMom

    MM, unintended consequences for the writers at the Philly Enquirer.

  68. @The Z Blog
    The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries. They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life. A big part of political activism is concern for the future and your posterity. If your future lies somewhere else, local politics is not all that inspiring.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Corvinus, @CrunchybutRealistCon, @Travis

    “The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries.”

    Except when there is a devastating natural disaster. Then all bets are off. Puerto Ricans are seizing the opportunity to come to the mainland and remain in the states permanently, since wages are higher. When the infrastructure is destroyed and beaches washed away, there is little enjoyment left.

    “They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life.”

    Not particularly. Perhaps you would do well to address your own mischaracterizations on your podcast.

    https://www.monroecollege.edu/uploadedFiles/_Site_Assets/PDF/BASIL-WILSON%20-%20Caribbean%20Immigrants.pdf

    https://sites.dartmouth.edu/censushistory/2016/10/31/the-races-occupations-and-incomes-of-latin-caribbean-and-afro-caribbean-immigrants-to-the-new-york-and-florida/

  69. @Thea
    @Ed

    Won't the law of diminishing returns become a factor eventually?

    Replies: @Ed

    You’d think and a few savvier Dems are saying as much but alas that’s not the dominant thinking today among liberals and Dems.

    https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/1/29/16945106/democrats-white-working-class-demographics-alabama-clinton-obama-base

    The Daily Beast’s Kohn and others argue that heavy black turnout and support led to Jones’s victory — period. But Jones’s triumph was not attributable to his strong showing among black voters alone, or even a combination of black voters and white college graduates. My analysis indicates that Jones benefited from a margin swing of more than 30 points among white non-college voters, relative to the 2016 presidential race in the state.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Ed

    I think the fact Selma sat on ballots until the 'red' counties came in has more to do with Jones' win than anything else. 98% of the Dem voters who voted in the 2016 election came out to vote in an off year special election? Has that ever happened before?

    If we had 110% of the voters show up (like Detroit) you'd have people torturing math to show how it totally wasn't a sign of fraud. Or just screaming racist and talking about the Selma Marches.

  70. @MichiganMom
    @Ed

    I was amused at how many of the inmates they featured claimed they were innocent. Lol. I'm not surprised comments were closed.

    Replies: @Ed

    The bullet riddled bodies found on the streets just ended up there. Nobody pulled the trigger, there are no guilty men in prison or that’s what many liberals believe.

    I was surprised to see the part about genetics and a decent explanation on how genetics isn’t fate. I think this subtle approach will make it easier for HBD type arguments to be made in greater frequency in acceptable mediums.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Ed

    Everybody in prison is innocent, or innocent-ish. Would you like to think of yourself as a low-life criminal who got caught, humiliated, and locked up? Or would you prefer to be a misunderstood, oppressed, un-diagnosed, overlooked, under-priveleged, under-served, promising young man?

    It wasn't my fault, the gun just went off.

  71. @jJay
    @Buffalo Joe

    California will be the state that succumbs to Hispanics. Soon...

    I get your snark, but where did all the CA white working class people go when they were displaced? Colorado and Oregon, popular destinations for the white CA dispora, turned blue shortly thereafter.

    I don't have an answer to that. You'd think placing your hand over the hot stove once would be enough, but it isn't.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    jJay, I may not have stated my point strongly enough. A new law in California automatically registers an applicant to vote when they apply for a drivers license. No questions allowed about citizenship.

  72. @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    @Thea

    I've thought something similar. As the population of Puerto Rico continues to fall, maybe young alt-right whites could start moving in and eventually become the demographic majority. If red-pilled whites moved in and overwhelmed the existing population, learning Spanish would be unnecessary. The locals would eventually give up and leave the island. Florida, New York, and New Jersey would be even more appealing to them.

    This scenario would require some tough white guys not afraid to fight. But there are lots of them out there. It is not something that would happen overnight. But for those who dream of a Whitopia, a beautiful island in the Caribbean is a pretty nice landing spot.

    Improbable, yes. Impossible? Check with the Cherokees, Choctaws, Apaches, etc... . They will will tell you otherwise.

    Replies: @syonredux

    But for those who dream of a Whitopia, a beautiful island in the Caribbean is a pretty nice landing spot.

    Europeans were not made for the tropics.

    • Replies: @Karl
    @syonredux

    73 syonredux > Europeans were not made for the tropics


    i'll mention that to all the older Euro guys drinking imported Italian coffee every morning at the coffeeshops in Cebu. While sitting next to their 22 year old girlfriend

  73. @Charles Pewitt
    @Buffalo Joe

    All I know about New York State politics is that two of the top politicians went to the slammer on corruption charges. Apparently, in New York State, the governor and the leaders of the legislature negotiate everything and what they say goes.

    In New Hampshire there was a lady state political leader who used to tell all the other state reps how to vote by holding up a ping pong paddle a certain way. Green meant vote yes and red meant vote no.

    So yes, the governor of New York and the two top dogs in the state legislature are responsible for the high tax rate in New York. Municipal government workers got fat on property taxes and state government workers got fat on state income taxes. Fun, Fun, Fun till Trumpy took the state and local tax deductions away.

    High tax states like New York are going to be hit hard by the new federal government tax laws.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Charles, and remember you can still deduct up to $10,000 in NYS taxes on your Federal form. The house around the corner from me, beautiful custom build on 6 acres, pays $28,000 per year in property taxes. It sold for $780,000 when the former owner took an out of state transfer.

  74. @MichiganMom
    @Buffalo Joe

    No, I'm not surprised, especially if the comments were anything like what I was thinking while I read it. Lol

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    MM, unintended consequences for the writers at the Philly Enquirer.

  75. @Simply Simon
    @Buffalo Joe

    I always wonder why any pro-life Christian, Hispanic or otherwise, would vote Democratic when the party platform makes a sacrament out of abortion on demand.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Simon, nice wording ….a sacrament out of abortion. I met a lady last week who spent 40 days in jail for protesting outside of an abortion clinic. I doubt you will find many SJWs willing to do jail time for their “beliefs.”

  76. @c matt
    @Charles Pewitt

    "High tax" vs. "low tax" state is hard to estimate. For example, California is generally described as high tax compared to Texas, mainly because Texas has no state income tax. But California's property tax rate is anywhere from one half to one third of Texas's property tax rate. Additionally, Texas has traditionally f*cked over property owners by claiming not to raise the tax rates, and instead jacked up the property valuations to the same effect - essentially raising taxes 10% per year for the past 20 years or more.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Good points about Texas and about States with no income tax socking it to ya some other way, such as property taxes.

    But the total tax burden on a typical middle-income or upper-middle-income person is still higher in California, lower in Texas. Not even close for most upper-middle-income people.

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494/

  77. @unpc downunder
    Generally speaking, Hispanics probably aren't very good at pressuring Democrat politicians into supporting their ethnic group. For a start, their ethnic group is a vague mixture of white and native American, and they aren't known for their advanced social skills. Hence, they are being replaced by groups that are better at pressuring politicians to favour their ethnic group. Middle Eastern Muslims are probably good at this. They know how to charm people, and they know how to threaten people.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Soon enough, sheer numbers will enable Mexicans as a bloc to control state government in California and Texas, as well as many county and city governments.

    The skills you’re talking about often aren’t as important when you have an absolute majority of the State’s population, which is coming. California has a non-white majority, and it will likely come to have an outright specifically MEXICAN majority.

    Those Muslims will find it useful and almost necessary to learn Spanish, like the rest of us, but conversely the Mexicans won’t live under sharia if they don’t feel like it.

  78. @oddsbodkins
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    Their numbers will skyrocket, as in Gaza.

    Replies: @Lot

    Their numbers will skyrocket, as in Gaza.

    Hamas is too mas?

  79. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Someone pointed out on another board that the reason the Dems are so fanatical about immigration is because blacks have poor voter turnout. Trump's 2016 win proved that point. Unless Dems get another black candidate for the presidency, they will have a very rough time winning another presidential election unless they acquire supporters who bother to show up to vote for them on election day.

    This means Dems not only have to replace blacks with Hispanics, but Democratic leaders have to keep harping about issues that upset Hispanic voters, namely immigration. Dems use the topic of immigration to provoke Hispanics into frothing outrage much like Democratic Jews use the Holocaust to keep other Jews from straying into Republican-hood.

    Dems are also aiming to grow their support out of their coastal enclaves further into the heartland, and that means stuffing Hispanics all over the country to break up Republican voting blocs. Hispanics, however, have a tendency to breed with the natives in a way that blacks don't, and they are in danger of becoming culturally white and starting to vote Republican. Thus the Dems realize they can only keep their support up by constantly importing new waves of immigrants who are always desperately needy, and who can be counted to vote for the party that promises to cater to those needs. If Trump deports illegals from the middle of the country, he'll have those areas locked up for Republicans for generations to come, and Democrats know it.

    Replies: @Anon

    Someone pointed out on another board that the reason the Dems are so fanatical about immigration is because blacks have poor voter turnout.

    This has to be turned into a meme for easy consumption by blacks.

    Diversity is like a bulldozer to push blacks out of choice areas eyed by developers.

  80. @syonredux
    @Mis(ter)Anthrope


    But for those who dream of a Whitopia, a beautiful island in the Caribbean is a pretty nice landing spot.
     
    Europeans were not made for the tropics.

    Replies: @Karl

    73 syonredux > Europeans were not made for the tropics

    i’ll mention that to all the older Euro guys drinking imported Italian coffee every morning at the coffeeshops in Cebu. While sitting next to their 22 year old girlfriend

  81. @The Z Blog
    The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries. They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life. A big part of political activism is concern for the future and your posterity. If your future lies somewhere else, local politics is not all that inspiring.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Corvinus, @CrunchybutRealistCon, @Travis

    Partly true. Would argue that a lot of folks from both PR, DR, & Bahamas initially come to the mainland with a view to working for 5-10 years, then returning home. However, the impression you get from Caribbean communities in the northeast is that they eventually get too embedded in towns in NY, CT, & MA….and only return for chunks of the winter for extended vacations. Perhaps many plan to return south upon retirement, but I suspect even that looks less inviting as the social fabric there gets ever more porous. I think the influx to FL will be better measured politically in 2024 or later.

  82. @Simply Simon
    @Buffalo Joe

    I always wonder why any pro-life Christian, Hispanic or otherwise, would vote Democratic when the party platform makes a sacrament out of abortion on demand.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Has anyone ever seen a living, breathing Hispanic at a prolife rally? Like last week’s? (Spanish nuns don’t count.)

    Voting is a purely mercenary activity for most people. American abortionists have taken three black lives for every Jewish life taken by the NSDAP. Yet American blacks vote 19-1 for the abortionists’ party.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Very, very few people care one way or the other about abortion. It certainly doesn’t carry over into the voting booth.

    And politicians take great car to avoid advocating one side or another.

    For liberals Jews and feminazis, pro abortion is a fund raising ploy. “ send us money or the evil evangelical republicans will force women to have babies against their will”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The anti abortion people are sincere. They are honest in that they believe life begins at conception and that even IUDs are murder.

    But for most, it’s a non issue.

    And no White person who cares about the future of the White race should be against it because the majority of the abortions are Hispanic and black.

    If you want more non aborted blacks and Hispanics getting affirmative action jobs denied to your children and grandchildren then you are as much a traitor to the White race as Nancy Pelosi and the judges and congress critters who created affirmative action.

    The blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders all other non Whites Jews and billionaire Whites are in the process of wiping out American Whites.

    Ending abortion means more black and Hispanics to be soldiers in the war against Whites.

    To be anti abortion is to be anti White.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @cynthia curran, @EdwardM

  83. For example, the the [sic] decade-long depopulation of Puerto Rico was supposed to permanently tip Florida’s electoral votes to the Democrats, but that plan failed in 2016. And so far the subsequent big hurricane in Puerto Rico still isn’t doing much for the Democrats in Florida. What more do the Democrats have to do?

    Should the GOP grow gonads and pass a Puerto Rican independence bill, then you’ll see the borinqueños lining up at 7 am around the what-passes-for-a-block-in-Florida to vote– for the Democrats.

    But what one side gains with one demographic would be matched and more with another for the other.

  84. @anonymouslee
    Steve, what are you so cheerful about?

    Youre always talking about how so-and-so was wrong about the Latino Wave in 2004. So what?

    Over what timeline are you so sanguine? What do you imagine will happen to Texas and Florida?

    What Republican party are you talking about without Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona, Colorado?

    Show your work. All of the cities in Texas are Democratic. Dallas wasn't always blue and they'll be saying the same about the state of Texas. It's only getting more Latino, more Asian/Indian, more California transplant lib, and less old cowboy by the day. The population trends don't lie. Extremely blue Austin is exploding and the old rural population is collapsing.

    Why are we ever talking about how your analysis shows that Romney's vote totals in Arizona were slightly underrated by whomever?

    How is that relevant to the loss of the country, the nation of heritage Americans as a historical, social, cultural, and political entity?

    Do you imagine you have some larger point here? Like the "doomsayers" are wrong because youre right when it comes to counting how many Latino votes fit on a pinhead?

    Are you aware, at all, that California was lost to heritage-Americans in your lifetime? Lost forever. Gone. America's greatest state, which happened to be the Republican center of power, is no longer part of America. It's magic dirt, alright, and the numbers are real: heritage-Americans have been ethnically cleansed from Ronald Reagan's home. Hell, my Nixon appointee grandfather lived in the beating heart, Orange County, through the 1990s. My children will hear about that like some Palestinian refugee's child being told about the family's once and future olive groves.

    Are you aware that white babies were a minority last year? That this isn't hypothetical?

    Are you aware that the Democratic trend in Texas is real? That it doesn't matter if some idiot like Jorge Ramos predicts the wrong year if you have no reason at all to see the trend reversing?

    Do you understand that your calendar victories don't matter at all?

    Do you get that 28 years from now I'll be younger than you are now? That we aren't talking about geological time scales here?


    How, in detail, does your Overestimated Latino Bias have anything to do with my children having America as a country?

    And if it doesn't have anything to do with that question then why are you talking politics at all? Why not go directly to tee times and cruises and the price of fiddles during a fire? Do you talk to someone with terminal cancer about whether global warming will affect his health in 30 years?

    Anyone who doesn't have an explicit idea of how to REVERSE--NOT SLOW--the demographic meltdown has abdicated any right to voice an opinion. If you fall into this camp, it's time to stop speaking and start listening.

    If you fall into this camp you may NOT:

    Talk about how you need a safe space without white nationalism;

    Explain how you wouldn't have voted for some bills in 1965 so we wouldn't be in this mess right now;

    Say, like Steve, that your "strategy" is to merely assert, like a child, that everything would be fine if everyone were reasonable just like me;

    Duck your responsibilities because you don't want to feel icky;

    Abandon your duty because it will cost you personal comfort, security or wealth.





    Allow me to be clear: everyone must be able to answer these questions. Nobody is responsible for having the perfect tactical plan that will guarantee success. All are required to explicate their reasoning in terms of how it will secure this nation for heritage-Americans and our posterity. If you can't work back from A to B in these terms then you're on the wrong track and the light at the end of your tunnel is coming straight towards us.

    Talking about politics orthogonal to the 14 words is like dancing to architecture. We have been patient with people who prefer clutching pearls but it's becoming impossible to make excuses for those who can see.

    It is time for a choosing.

    Replies: @Nico, @Berty, @36 ulster, @The Practical Conservative, @cynthia curran

    White babies were not a minority last year. And I mean white non-Hispanic. They were under 50% for a single year a few years ago, but white babies have pretty much stayed stable at a majority of births.

  85. I come from San Antonio, a heavily Hispanic town, so I am intimately familiar with their culture and politics. The vast majority of Hispanics are your classic pocketbook voters: they vote their perceived material self-interest. They are nowhere near as receptive to culture-war issues as the (US) whites, nor are they as susceptible to identity politics as the (US) blacks. ‘Hispanic’ as a cultural identity is rather weak, consisting, as it does, almost exclusively in a language. It is not a race or a nationality. Once upon time it also usually meant Catholic, but that’s been fading for years now. ‘Hispanic’ then, is about as tight an identity as ‘Anglophone’.

    In Latin America itself–as in the Anglophone civilization–social class counts for more than anything else. Consequently, when US Hispanics move up the class totem pole, the odds that they’ll vote Republican increase dramatically. But the correlate is that Republican Party attempts to lure lower-class Hispanics by campaigning on social issues is doomed to fail–no matter how ridiculous most Hispanics find the Democrat’s stance on tranny bathrooms, etc.

    As far as the illegal immigration issue is concerned, it’s not quite as dispositive as the DNC imagines. First of all, there are whole categories of Hispanics who are completely untouched by the issue, such as Cubans (wet-foot-dry-foot) and Puerto Ricans (US citizens). Secondly, even among Mexicans and Central Americans–those most likely to be illegal aliens–it’s usually only a burning issue for a generation or two. After that, it takes a backseat to … perceived material self-interest.

    What the Democratic Party needs to do is to breed more blacks.

    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    @Seamus Padraig

    The Mexican-Americans I know whose families have been in the U.S. for several generations are completely assimilated into white culture.

    I try not to talk about politics with anyone except my son and one or two close friends who I know are intelligent and open to facts and not driven by mindless emotion. But I have had several Mexican-American acquaintances tell me that they are very happy Trump is our President and not Hildabeast. But again, they are third or fourth generation Americans and recognize that illegals from anywhere take jobs from Americans.

    As you say, they are driven by self-interest.

    , @Ed
    @Seamus Padraig

    There is a noticeable difference in voting patterns between Mex-Americans in CA and TX. CA Mex-Americans appears to be more liberal than their TX counterparts. I’ve suspected San Antonio is a significant factor why. I’ve never been but it appears to be a city dominated by longer resident, assimilated Mex-Americans that hasn’t been inunandated with recent Mexican immigration. Is this a correct assessment?

    Replies: @Seamus Padraig

  86. @The Z Blog
    The flaw in the Democrat Puerto Rican strategy is that it is temporary. Something true of Caribbeans is they much prefer to live in their home countries. They come to America for adventure and maybe to make some money, but the plan is always to go back home and enjoy island life. A big part of political activism is concern for the future and your posterity. If your future lies somewhere else, local politics is not all that inspiring.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Corvinus, @CrunchybutRealistCon, @Travis

    From my experience with Dominicans, their children do not want to go back to the DR. The best friend of my wife is Dominican. Maria is the eldest of 14. Her mother arrived first and sponsored her 14 children. Maria immigrated to America when she was 21, with her husband and child. She had 3 more kids in New York..Her 4 children always complained when she took them for vacation to the DR , but her husband did move back to the DR when they divorced 10 years ago. The parents of Maria and all her Siblings live in the United States, mostly New York, some in Florida and Texas….none of them plan on returning to the DR. While many of the men do want to return, because they can live better, their children and spouses want to stay here.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Travis

    Human beings tend to imprint on the landscape they live in around puberty.

    , @Corn
    @Travis

    “While many of the men do want to return, because they can live better”

    Live better financially or socially?


    I wouldn’t think their fiscal bottom line would improve, but these men may feel elevated socially, Latin machismo and patriarchy and all.

  87. @Travis
    @The Z Blog

    From my experience with Dominicans, their children do not want to go back to the DR. The best friend of my wife is Dominican. Maria is the eldest of 14. Her mother arrived first and sponsored her 14 children. Maria immigrated to America when she was 21, with her husband and child. She had 3 more kids in New York..Her 4 children always complained when she took them for vacation to the DR , but her husband did move back to the DR when they divorced 10 years ago. The parents of Maria and all her Siblings live in the United States, mostly New York, some in Florida and Texas....none of them plan on returning to the DR. While many of the men do want to return, because they can live better, their children and spouses want to stay here.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corn

    Human beings tend to imprint on the landscape they live in around puberty.

  88. @Seamus Padraig
    I come from San Antonio, a heavily Hispanic town, so I am intimately familiar with their culture and politics. The vast majority of Hispanics are your classic pocketbook voters: they vote their perceived material self-interest. They are nowhere near as receptive to culture-war issues as the (US) whites, nor are they as susceptible to identity politics as the (US) blacks. 'Hispanic' as a cultural identity is rather weak, consisting, as it does, almost exclusively in a language. It is not a race or a nationality. Once upon time it also usually meant Catholic, but that's been fading for years now. 'Hispanic' then, is about as tight an identity as 'Anglophone'.

    In Latin America itself--as in the Anglophone civilization--social class counts for more than anything else. Consequently, when US Hispanics move up the class totem pole, the odds that they'll vote Republican increase dramatically. But the correlate is that Republican Party attempts to lure lower-class Hispanics by campaigning on social issues is doomed to fail--no matter how ridiculous most Hispanics find the Democrat's stance on tranny bathrooms, etc.

    As far as the illegal immigration issue is concerned, it's not quite as dispositive as the DNC imagines. First of all, there are whole categories of Hispanics who are completely untouched by the issue, such as Cubans (wet-foot-dry-foot) and Puerto Ricans (US citizens). Secondly, even among Mexicans and Central Americans--those most likely to be illegal aliens--it's usually only a burning issue for a generation or two. After that, it takes a backseat to ... perceived material self-interest.

    What the Democratic Party needs to do is to breed more blacks.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Ed

    The Mexican-Americans I know whose families have been in the U.S. for several generations are completely assimilated into white culture.

    I try not to talk about politics with anyone except my son and one or two close friends who I know are intelligent and open to facts and not driven by mindless emotion. But I have had several Mexican-American acquaintances tell me that they are very happy Trump is our President and not Hildabeast. But again, they are third or fourth generation Americans and recognize that illegals from anywhere take jobs from Americans.

    As you say, they are driven by self-interest.

  89. @Travis
    @The Z Blog

    From my experience with Dominicans, their children do not want to go back to the DR. The best friend of my wife is Dominican. Maria is the eldest of 14. Her mother arrived first and sponsored her 14 children. Maria immigrated to America when she was 21, with her husband and child. She had 3 more kids in New York..Her 4 children always complained when she took them for vacation to the DR , but her husband did move back to the DR when they divorced 10 years ago. The parents of Maria and all her Siblings live in the United States, mostly New York, some in Florida and Texas....none of them plan on returning to the DR. While many of the men do want to return, because they can live better, their children and spouses want to stay here.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corn

    “While many of the men do want to return, because they can live better”

    Live better financially or socially?

    I wouldn’t think their fiscal bottom line would improve, but these men may feel elevated socially, Latin machismo and patriarchy and all.

  90. @Seamus Padraig
    I come from San Antonio, a heavily Hispanic town, so I am intimately familiar with their culture and politics. The vast majority of Hispanics are your classic pocketbook voters: they vote their perceived material self-interest. They are nowhere near as receptive to culture-war issues as the (US) whites, nor are they as susceptible to identity politics as the (US) blacks. 'Hispanic' as a cultural identity is rather weak, consisting, as it does, almost exclusively in a language. It is not a race or a nationality. Once upon time it also usually meant Catholic, but that's been fading for years now. 'Hispanic' then, is about as tight an identity as 'Anglophone'.

    In Latin America itself--as in the Anglophone civilization--social class counts for more than anything else. Consequently, when US Hispanics move up the class totem pole, the odds that they'll vote Republican increase dramatically. But the correlate is that Republican Party attempts to lure lower-class Hispanics by campaigning on social issues is doomed to fail--no matter how ridiculous most Hispanics find the Democrat's stance on tranny bathrooms, etc.

    As far as the illegal immigration issue is concerned, it's not quite as dispositive as the DNC imagines. First of all, there are whole categories of Hispanics who are completely untouched by the issue, such as Cubans (wet-foot-dry-foot) and Puerto Ricans (US citizens). Secondly, even among Mexicans and Central Americans--those most likely to be illegal aliens--it's usually only a burning issue for a generation or two. After that, it takes a backseat to ... perceived material self-interest.

    What the Democratic Party needs to do is to breed more blacks.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Ed

    There is a noticeable difference in voting patterns between Mex-Americans in CA and TX. CA Mex-Americans appears to be more liberal than their TX counterparts. I’ve suspected San Antonio is a significant factor why. I’ve never been but it appears to be a city dominated by longer resident, assimilated Mex-Americans that hasn’t been inunandated with recent Mexican immigration. Is this a correct assessment?

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    @Ed

    That jibes well with my own observations. I have also noticed that the CalMex people seem a lot more hardcore than the TexMex people, who strike me as more laid back. Still, is it the case that wealthy CalMex would still always vote Democrat despite their income?

  91. @Ed
    @MichiganMom

    The bullet riddled bodies found on the streets just ended up there. Nobody pulled the trigger, there are no guilty men in prison or that’s what many liberals believe.

    I was surprised to see the part about genetics and a decent explanation on how genetics isn’t fate. I think this subtle approach will make it easier for HBD type arguments to be made in greater frequency in acceptable mediums.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Everybody in prison is innocent, or innocent-ish. Would you like to think of yourself as a low-life criminal who got caught, humiliated, and locked up? Or would you prefer to be a misunderstood, oppressed, un-diagnosed, overlooked, under-priveleged, under-served, promising young man?

    It wasn’t my fault, the gun just went off.

  92. Jack Hanson says:
    @Ed
    @Thea

    You’d think and a few savvier Dems are saying as much but alas that’s not the dominant thinking today among liberals and Dems.

    https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/1/29/16945106/democrats-white-working-class-demographics-alabama-clinton-obama-base



    The Daily Beast’s Kohn and others argue that heavy black turnout and support led to Jones’s victory — period. But Jones’s triumph was not attributable to his strong showing among black voters alone, or even a combination of black voters and white college graduates. My analysis indicates that Jones benefited from a margin swing of more than 30 points among white non-college voters, relative to the 2016 presidential race in the state.
     

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    I think the fact Selma sat on ballots until the ‘red’ counties came in has more to do with Jones’ win than anything else. 98% of the Dem voters who voted in the 2016 election came out to vote in an off year special election? Has that ever happened before?

    If we had 110% of the voters show up (like Detroit) you’d have people torturing math to show how it totally wasn’t a sign of fraud. Or just screaming racist and talking about the Selma Marches.

  93. @Ed
    @Seamus Padraig

    There is a noticeable difference in voting patterns between Mex-Americans in CA and TX. CA Mex-Americans appears to be more liberal than their TX counterparts. I’ve suspected San Antonio is a significant factor why. I’ve never been but it appears to be a city dominated by longer resident, assimilated Mex-Americans that hasn’t been inunandated with recent Mexican immigration. Is this a correct assessment?

    Replies: @Seamus Padraig

    That jibes well with my own observations. I have also noticed that the CalMex people seem a lot more hardcore than the TexMex people, who strike me as more laid back. Still, is it the case that wealthy CalMex would still always vote Democrat despite their income?

  94. @Simply Simon
    @Buffalo Joe

    I always wonder why any pro-life Christian, Hispanic or otherwise, would vote Democratic when the party platform makes a sacrament out of abortion on demand.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Hispanics have the highest abortion rate.

  95. @Reg Cæsar
    @Simply Simon

    Has anyone ever seen a living, breathing Hispanic at a prolife rally? Like last week's? (Spanish nuns don't count.)

    Voting is a purely mercenary activity for most people. American abortionists have taken three black lives for every Jewish life taken by the NSDAP. Yet American blacks vote 19-1 for the abortionists' party.

    Replies: @Alden

    Very, very few people care one way or the other about abortion. It certainly doesn’t carry over into the voting booth.

    And politicians take great car to avoid advocating one side or another.

    For liberals Jews and feminazis, pro abortion is a fund raising ploy. “ send us money or the evil evangelical republicans will force women to have babies against their will”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The anti abortion people are sincere. They are honest in that they believe life begins at conception and that even IUDs are murder.

    But for most, it’s a non issue.

    And no White person who cares about the future of the White race should be against it because the majority of the abortions are Hispanic and black.

    If you want more non aborted blacks and Hispanics getting affirmative action jobs denied to your children and grandchildren then you are as much a traitor to the White race as Nancy Pelosi and the judges and congress critters who created affirmative action.

    The blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders all other non Whites Jews and billionaire Whites are in the process of wiping out American Whites.

    Ending abortion means more black and Hispanics to be soldiers in the war against Whites.

    To be anti abortion is to be anti White.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    And no White person who cares about the future of the White race should be against it because the majority of the abortions are Hispanic and black.
     
    Legal abortion has corrupted every race that has allowed it.

    In white people's case (I don't capitalize it because I prefer to copy the style of Winston Churchill and Lothrop Stoddard than that of Jet Magazine), the low percentage of abortions is an effect of the low number of pregnancies in the first place.

    White women have been frightened to death of pregnancy, and why wouldn't they be, when it is spoken of like a disease?

    When whites were most a confident, self-protected race is precisely the time the strictest bans were enacted and enforced. And the now-sacramental Roe came down as part and parcel of the civil rights movement you so want to copy.

    , @cynthia curran
    @Alden

    I agree with you to a point but I opposed late term not early abortion. One of the reasons we get so many central Americans is they are either Catholic or Penecostial and against abortion. This means that since these countries are poor they are going to come to the US since they have a labor surplus. Trying to convince Pat Buchanan, Laura Ingraham to support some abortion is difficult.

    , @EdwardM
    @Alden


    Very, very few people care one way or the other about abortion. It certainly doesn’t carry over into the voting booth.
     
    I disagree. I know many white women who are natural Republicans, but say they won't consider voting for them because of abortion. I try to reason that abortion does not affect them at all, but they always counter with the my body, freedom, sexism, etc. argument.
  96. @Charles Pewitt
    Trumpy and the GOP might have had ulterior political motives by eliminating the federal income tax deduction for state and local taxes. Perhaps Trumpy thinks he can influence loads of Whites to sell their houses in states such as New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and other high tax states to avoid the tax hits coming their way by moving to Florida.

    Trumpy and the GOP know that Florida is being swamped by foreigners in a planned demographic deluge by the Democrats. The Democrats are doing everything in their power to flood the foreigners into Florida.

    Trumpy and the GOP will benefit if more Whites move to Florida. The question then becomes what percentage of those Whites leaving the high tax states to move to Florida will vote Trumpy and GOP?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @c matt, @Stacy235l

    by eliminating the federal income tax deduction for state and local taxes.

    It wasn’t eliminated, just lowered to 10,000 dollars. That’s still a lot to a middle class family.

    Perhaps Trumpy thinks he can influence loads of Whites to sell their houses in states such as New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and other high tax states to avoid the tax hits coming their way

    Nah, it’s just a way to get wealthy people who support high federal taxes to actually pay them.

  97. @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Very, very few people care one way or the other about abortion. It certainly doesn’t carry over into the voting booth.

    And politicians take great car to avoid advocating one side or another.

    For liberals Jews and feminazis, pro abortion is a fund raising ploy. “ send us money or the evil evangelical republicans will force women to have babies against their will”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The anti abortion people are sincere. They are honest in that they believe life begins at conception and that even IUDs are murder.

    But for most, it’s a non issue.

    And no White person who cares about the future of the White race should be against it because the majority of the abortions are Hispanic and black.

    If you want more non aborted blacks and Hispanics getting affirmative action jobs denied to your children and grandchildren then you are as much a traitor to the White race as Nancy Pelosi and the judges and congress critters who created affirmative action.

    The blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders all other non Whites Jews and billionaire Whites are in the process of wiping out American Whites.

    Ending abortion means more black and Hispanics to be soldiers in the war against Whites.

    To be anti abortion is to be anti White.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @cynthia curran, @EdwardM

    And no White person who cares about the future of the White race should be against it because the majority of the abortions are Hispanic and black.

    Legal abortion has corrupted every race that has allowed it.

    In white people’s case (I don’t capitalize it because I prefer to copy the style of Winston Churchill and Lothrop Stoddard than that of Jet Magazine), the low percentage of abortions is an effect of the low number of pregnancies in the first place.

    White women have been frightened to death of pregnancy, and why wouldn’t they be, when it is spoken of like a disease?

    When whites were most a confident, self-protected race is precisely the time the strictest bans were enacted and enforced. And the now-sacramental Roe came down as part and parcel of the civil rights movement you so want to copy.

  98. @anonymouslee
    Steve, what are you so cheerful about?

    Youre always talking about how so-and-so was wrong about the Latino Wave in 2004. So what?

    Over what timeline are you so sanguine? What do you imagine will happen to Texas and Florida?

    What Republican party are you talking about without Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Arizona, Colorado?

    Show your work. All of the cities in Texas are Democratic. Dallas wasn't always blue and they'll be saying the same about the state of Texas. It's only getting more Latino, more Asian/Indian, more California transplant lib, and less old cowboy by the day. The population trends don't lie. Extremely blue Austin is exploding and the old rural population is collapsing.

    Why are we ever talking about how your analysis shows that Romney's vote totals in Arizona were slightly underrated by whomever?

    How is that relevant to the loss of the country, the nation of heritage Americans as a historical, social, cultural, and political entity?

    Do you imagine you have some larger point here? Like the "doomsayers" are wrong because youre right when it comes to counting how many Latino votes fit on a pinhead?

    Are you aware, at all, that California was lost to heritage-Americans in your lifetime? Lost forever. Gone. America's greatest state, which happened to be the Republican center of power, is no longer part of America. It's magic dirt, alright, and the numbers are real: heritage-Americans have been ethnically cleansed from Ronald Reagan's home. Hell, my Nixon appointee grandfather lived in the beating heart, Orange County, through the 1990s. My children will hear about that like some Palestinian refugee's child being told about the family's once and future olive groves.

    Are you aware that white babies were a minority last year? That this isn't hypothetical?

    Are you aware that the Democratic trend in Texas is real? That it doesn't matter if some idiot like Jorge Ramos predicts the wrong year if you have no reason at all to see the trend reversing?

    Do you understand that your calendar victories don't matter at all?

    Do you get that 28 years from now I'll be younger than you are now? That we aren't talking about geological time scales here?


    How, in detail, does your Overestimated Latino Bias have anything to do with my children having America as a country?

    And if it doesn't have anything to do with that question then why are you talking politics at all? Why not go directly to tee times and cruises and the price of fiddles during a fire? Do you talk to someone with terminal cancer about whether global warming will affect his health in 30 years?

    Anyone who doesn't have an explicit idea of how to REVERSE--NOT SLOW--the demographic meltdown has abdicated any right to voice an opinion. If you fall into this camp, it's time to stop speaking and start listening.

    If you fall into this camp you may NOT:

    Talk about how you need a safe space without white nationalism;

    Explain how you wouldn't have voted for some bills in 1965 so we wouldn't be in this mess right now;

    Say, like Steve, that your "strategy" is to merely assert, like a child, that everything would be fine if everyone were reasonable just like me;

    Duck your responsibilities because you don't want to feel icky;

    Abandon your duty because it will cost you personal comfort, security or wealth.





    Allow me to be clear: everyone must be able to answer these questions. Nobody is responsible for having the perfect tactical plan that will guarantee success. All are required to explicate their reasoning in terms of how it will secure this nation for heritage-Americans and our posterity. If you can't work back from A to B in these terms then you're on the wrong track and the light at the end of your tunnel is coming straight towards us.

    Talking about politics orthogonal to the 14 words is like dancing to architecture. We have been patient with people who prefer clutching pearls but it's becoming impossible to make excuses for those who can see.

    It is time for a choosing.

    Replies: @Nico, @Berty, @36 ulster, @The Practical Conservative, @cynthia curran

    Some truth to what you say about the big cities of Texas. I told Briebart that they have to worry more about congressional districts in Harris County than Orange County California. I think both Florida and Texas will be purplish states longer than blue. Its true that Dems can not always count on Latinos, Trump won Kern County Ca at 13 percent better than he did in Harris County Texas which he lost by 13 percent to Clinton. Harris County has more muslims than does Kern County Ca.

  99. @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Very, very few people care one way or the other about abortion. It certainly doesn’t carry over into the voting booth.

    And politicians take great car to avoid advocating one side or another.

    For liberals Jews and feminazis, pro abortion is a fund raising ploy. “ send us money or the evil evangelical republicans will force women to have babies against their will”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The anti abortion people are sincere. They are honest in that they believe life begins at conception and that even IUDs are murder.

    But for most, it’s a non issue.

    And no White person who cares about the future of the White race should be against it because the majority of the abortions are Hispanic and black.

    If you want more non aborted blacks and Hispanics getting affirmative action jobs denied to your children and grandchildren then you are as much a traitor to the White race as Nancy Pelosi and the judges and congress critters who created affirmative action.

    The blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders all other non Whites Jews and billionaire Whites are in the process of wiping out American Whites.

    Ending abortion means more black and Hispanics to be soldiers in the war against Whites.

    To be anti abortion is to be anti White.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @cynthia curran, @EdwardM

    I agree with you to a point but I opposed late term not early abortion. One of the reasons we get so many central Americans is they are either Catholic or Penecostial and against abortion. This means that since these countries are poor they are going to come to the US since they have a labor surplus. Trying to convince Pat Buchanan, Laura Ingraham to support some abortion is difficult.

  100. @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    Very, very few people care one way or the other about abortion. It certainly doesn’t carry over into the voting booth.

    And politicians take great car to avoid advocating one side or another.

    For liberals Jews and feminazis, pro abortion is a fund raising ploy. “ send us money or the evil evangelical republicans will force women to have babies against their will”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The anti abortion people are sincere. They are honest in that they believe life begins at conception and that even IUDs are murder.

    But for most, it’s a non issue.

    And no White person who cares about the future of the White race should be against it because the majority of the abortions are Hispanic and black.

    If you want more non aborted blacks and Hispanics getting affirmative action jobs denied to your children and grandchildren then you are as much a traitor to the White race as Nancy Pelosi and the judges and congress critters who created affirmative action.

    The blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders all other non Whites Jews and billionaire Whites are in the process of wiping out American Whites.

    Ending abortion means more black and Hispanics to be soldiers in the war against Whites.

    To be anti abortion is to be anti White.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @cynthia curran, @EdwardM

    Very, very few people care one way or the other about abortion. It certainly doesn’t carry over into the voting booth.

    I disagree. I know many white women who are natural Republicans, but say they won’t consider voting for them because of abortion. I try to reason that abortion does not affect them at all, but they always counter with the my body, freedom, sexism, etc. argument.

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