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You hear a lot about how awful it is that the first two contests are in highly white states (Iowa and New Hampshire), but both parties seem to like it that way.

The next primary is South Carolina (Feb. 20 for Republicans, Feb. 27 for Democrats — the Nevada caucus is Feb. 20th for Dems, Feb. 23 for Reps). Democrats in South Carolina are mostly black.

Hillary had a 62-33 lead in the last two polls in South Carolina, narrowing a little from her huge lead in November. The question for Hillary following her sizable loss in New Hampshire is: Does she accept a narrow win in South Carolina, or does she try to run up the score on Sanders in South Carolina by exciting the black turnout? (Sanders is meeting with Al Sharpton tomorrow morning, so he’s upping the ante.) Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?

The more farsighted Democratic strategists are probably not looking forward to 18 days of national attention on the two candidates attempting to woo black South Carolina voters.

 
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  1. HRC, in her concession speech tonight in NH, already sounded like she was campaigning in SC and NV, with her appellations to blacks and “immigrants.”

  2. if hillary doesn’t win big in s.c. she needs to quit. bernie should of been kissing sharpton’s ass six months ago.THUMP all the way baby!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @tyrone


    bernie should of been kissing...
     
    Sheet! Wheh you be goin' ta skool?

    Replies: @iffen

  3. • Replies: @Bert
    @SFG

    And yet their tapwater is still undrinkable.

    Replies: @Bu'bha al-Teksani

    , @Mark Caplan
    @SFG

    Uruguay has an insignificant Indio population. It's 88 percent European stock.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @Truth
    @SFG


    Look up their demographics. ;)
     
    Don't have to, they were provided in your article.


    Today, the country has a large Afro-Uruguayan community — about 10 percent of the population is descended from slaves.
     

    Replies: @Brutusale

  4. Bernie has gone into cuck overdrive. I guess there’s no room in the democrat party for politicians who refuse to beg for the votes of black race hustlers.

  5. Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
    How has Hillary been pulling this off ?

    • Replies: @Broski
    @boogerbently


    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
    How has Hillary been pulling this off ?

     

    Whites have only now figured this out, at least in a politically meaningful way. It often takes blacks a little longer. And free stuff apparently seemed pretty good until it became obvious that immigration had ruined the bottom 30% of the founding stock's labor pool.
    , @AndrewR
    @boogerbently

    Because the Democrats have convinced people that the immigrants are "doing jobs Americans won't do", plus leftists today believe that only through mass third world immigration and population displacement can we atone for and abolish "white supremacy."

    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    @boogerbently


    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
     
    True, but then most politicians who want to restrict immigration also do NOT support blacks or lower class whites. [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites - except, as he's explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]

    Replies: @Broski, @Das, @rod1963, @Former Darfur

    , @tbraton
    @boogerbently

    "Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites."

    I have been asking the same question for more than 30 years, since it was obvious to me that the initial influx of mass immigration affected mostly the lower paid jobs which meant blacks for the most part. But you know the old expression, don't you? "First they came for the black jobs, and I said nothing. Then they came for the white jobs, and I noticed some of my neighbors were unemployed, but I said nothing. Then they came for my job, and I determined it was un-American."

    BTW it's not just Hillary. A few days ago, I cited the case of Carly Fiorina who was bemoaning the loss of jobs and income for American workers. But she is apparently too dumb or too dishonest to acknowledge the clear connection between mass immigration and loss of jobs for Americans and downward pressure on wages of American workers. Too dumb to understand simple "supply and demand."

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    , @AnAnon
    @boogerbently

    in a multicultural democracy you don't vote your economic or social interests, but in accordance with your race and religion.

  6. SC is a white state as for as the Republicans are concerned. Not much different from NH in that regard.

    • Replies: @Discard
    @Prof. Woland

    But unlike Iowa and Vermont, the Whites in South Carolina are personally familiar with Blacks and their foibles.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  7. @SFG
    OT, but fun:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/opinion/uruguays-quiet-democratic-miracle.html

    Look up their demographics. ;)

    Replies: @Bert, @Mark Caplan, @Truth

    And yet their tapwater is still undrinkable.

    • Replies: @Bu'bha al-Teksani
    @Bert

    Wrong. The water is just fine, the food is pretty great, wine is nice, the Uruguayos are eminently civil and friendly folks, the kids are cute as hell, all done up in smocks like French schoolchildren, street dogs are not starving and not ferocious -- it reminds of small-town America in the 50s with a Latin overlay. It's a splendid little country.

    Replies: @Joe Sweet

  8. If Hillary is to win, she needs black antisemitism at full force. We’ll see how Sharpton and Jackson choose. Who was the “hymie town” utterer?

    Another thing about big, bad antisemitism: has anyone heard of Bernie having any problems at all because he’s Jewish? Seems not to be a force among his overwhelmingly white fans. Most of them don’t realize or care.

    • Replies: @countenance
    @Broski

    I notice that Bernie has never worn his Judaism on his sleeve; the locus of his political life and that which gets his engine going is Scandinavian style egalitarian economic social democracy.

    Replies: @Ed

    , @Broski
    @Broski

    Clintonian chess prediction: Hillary will entice Farrakhan or another such figure to go after Bernie's Jewishness.

    Remember this comment, friends.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Broski

    The fact that Sanders is a Jew probably works against him with a large percentage of blacks and Hispanics, but you'll never hear that possibility raised in the media.

    , @Mark Caplan
    @Broski

    Sanders has been married almost 30 years to an Irish Catholic social worker. He himself pretty much admits he is ethnically but not religiously Jewish, meaning he's an atheist.

    , @Connecticut Famer
    @Broski

    Someone on a local radio station mentioned that Sanders was the first Jew to win a presidential primary. Frankly I never gave his ethnicity any real thought except to the extent that at times he sounds like a counterman at a Kosher deli. Seriously though, compared to another potential Jewish candidate, the odious Bloomberg, Bernie is a "mensch." His message is not totally inaccurate. A pity that he embraces a failed ideology.

  9. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hillary call for reparations in order to get the black vote. That would really make things interesting.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Bill P

    She's gonna go full Bullworth-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWiXGk3uZgM

    , @Anon
    @Bill P

    Sanders is not an obviously Jewish name. It sounds English. I doubt many of Sanders' supporters know that he's Jewish.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

  10. Judging by her identity laden speech & this ad she’s going for broke with minorities. I think she realizes she’s more or less lost whites under 45, has to make up the difference elsewhere.

    http://youtu.be/SZW4ZYb1hfE

  11. She’s already ahead of the game

    http://www.wired.com/2016/02/why-a-flight-to-flint-may-be-clintons-cleverest-move-yet/

    The same white liberals who want Bernie in probably would go for Trump on the domestic programs (sans the whole chauvinistic bombastic persona)..

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Zachary Latif

    She only came here after being shamed into it. If she had really been proactive and/or actually cared about Flint she would have come here three weeks ago.

  12. So, Jesse Jackson has still declined to endorse a candidate in this race. He won South Carolina in 1988.

    Or maybe the enigmatic Alvin Greene will single-handedly swing this primary one way of the other, provided that he’s not locked up somewhere.

  13. I don’t see any reason to believe that blacks in the South are immune from more general trends in the Democratic party. They’re not wedded to Hillary in the way they’d be wedded to a black candidate. Even if they do stay with her, in how many states are black voters a majority of democrats? Certainly NC, SC, GA, AL, LA, MS, AR, TN. How many more? Seems like in most states it’s still a majority white party. There are some states where Hispanics are a large portion of the Democratic coalition, but they’re even more likely to switch than blacks.

    Hillary is really unlikeable. Sanders could very well win this.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hepp

    Yes, blacks mostly back Clinton because they're highly political, very low information voters. They back the Dem that they've heard about and known for decades. Otherwise they'd be flocking to Bernie's Free Stuff platform.

    , @Jonathan Silber
    @Hepp

    Turnout of SC Dem Blacks in a primary featuring two old white people likely to be small.

  14. Jeb and Hillary have a similar problem – just having the right last name isn’t cutting it anymore. Don’t know about Hillary, but Jeb has definitely been caught standing up at the end of musical chairs.

  15. @Bill P
    I wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary call for reparations in order to get the black vote. That would really make things interesting.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Anon

    She’s gonna go full Bullworth-

  16. @boogerbently
    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
    How has Hillary been pulling this off ?

    Replies: @Broski, @AndrewR, @Stephen R. Diamond, @tbraton, @AnAnon

    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
    How has Hillary been pulling this off ?

    Whites have only now figured this out, at least in a politically meaningful way. It often takes blacks a little longer. And free stuff apparently seemed pretty good until it became obvious that immigration had ruined the bottom 30% of the founding stock’s labor pool.

  17. Hillary has another problem in SC. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/hillary-clinton-south-carolina-return-campaign-visit-118333

    People forget that Bill was close to waving the Rebel flag in 2008, in an attempt to get whites to rally to Hillary.

    Blacks tend to flow faster to a winner than other demos so it will be interesting to see the polls over the next week. I suspect it is becoming hip to hate Hillary again.

  18. OT

    How on earth did the NYT allow this anti-immigration screed onto its Op-Ed page?

    Overton Window … Barbarians storming the NYT gates … Trump. (Fill in the obvious commentary.)

    The millions of people storming the borders of the European Union today are right to believe that migration is the best revolution. It is a revolution of the individual, not the masses. The European Union is more attractive than any 20th-century utopia, for the simple reason that it exists. But as it looks today, the migrants’ revolution could easily inspire a counterrevolution in Europe.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/opinion/will-germany-give-up-on-integration.html?ref=opinion

    • Replies: @Broski
    @FactsAreImportant


    How on earth did the NYT allow this anti-immigration screed onto its Op-Ed page?
     
    See my comments to the same article on the debate open thread yesterday.

    Replies: @FactsAreImportant

  19. @boogerbently
    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
    How has Hillary been pulling this off ?

    Replies: @Broski, @AndrewR, @Stephen R. Diamond, @tbraton, @AnAnon

    Because the Democrats have convinced people that the immigrants are “doing jobs Americans won’t do”, plus leftists today believe that only through mass third world immigration and population displacement can we atone for and abolish “white supremacy.”

  20. The god news for Hillary is that South Carolina’s primary is only 3 days before Super Tuesday. The bad news is that Super Tuesday also has a lot of heavily black states – Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and Virginia.

    But they’re not as black as South Carolina, which (iirc) after Mississippi is the blackest state in the country. She could avoid trying to pander to blacks in those states and focus on the whiter states, but the problem with that is that Super Tuesday also includes a lot of SWPL states with Dems that probably adore Bernie – Vermont, Minnesota, North Dakota, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Colorado.

    After tonight, after basically tying in Iowa and getting trounced in NH, her campaign may be all but over. I wouldn’t be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race. They’ve got 3 weeks until Super Tuesday. It may very well be, given Hillary’s legal problems, that someone has already been planning to jump in, and has been waiting for a moment just like this – “Hillary can’t win!” – to do so.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Wilkey


    ...Super Tuesday also includes a lot of SWPL states with Dems that probably adore Bernie – Vermont, Minnesota, North Dakota, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Colorado.
     
    Any of you want to babysit our kids while I tout the Donald at one caucus and my wife does the same for Bernie at the other?

    Primaries are easier on family life. But not only can you campaign at caucus, you pretty much have to.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    @Wilkey

    My prediction, for what it's worth, is a Joe Biden candidacy with Elizabeth Warren as the vice-presidential nominee. Biden runs as a "third Obama term," and promises to be a one-term president, while the obvious successor (Warren) is being prepared. The narrative (we need a female president) is preserved, albeit deferred. The big drawback is age: Biden is already in his 70s and Elizabeth Warren will be 71 in 2020. But age doesn't seem to be a big factor today. Perhaps a younger Hispanic running mate would make better sense, but I think that the "we need a woman" wing of the Democratic Party is very strong.

    The meltdown of Hillary Clinton if she loses the nomination will be epic.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @EriK
    @Wilkey


    I wouldn’t be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race.
     
    I'm not seeing the DNC, under its titular head Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz, doing any such thing.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    , @AnotherDad
    @Wilkey


    After tonight, after basically tying in Iowa and getting trounced in NH, her campaign may be all but over. I wouldn’t be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race.
     
    I know weed is legal a lot of places now--including here--but really, you should sober up before commenting on iSteve. (Or at least blame it on that Anonymous guy who's always saying stupid stuff.)
  21. @Zachary Latif
    She's already ahead of the game

    http://www.wired.com/2016/02/why-a-flight-to-flint-may-be-clintons-cleverest-move-yet/

    The same white liberals who want Bernie in probably would go for Trump on the domestic programs (sans the whole chauvinistic bombastic persona)..

    Replies: @AndrewR

    She only came here after being shamed into it. If she had really been proactive and/or actually cared about Flint she would have come here three weeks ago.

  22. @Broski
    If Hillary is to win, she needs black antisemitism at full force. We'll see how Sharpton and Jackson choose. Who was the "hymie town" utterer?

    Another thing about big, bad antisemitism: has anyone heard of Bernie having any problems at all because he's Jewish? Seems not to be a force among his overwhelmingly white fans. Most of them don't realize or care.

    Replies: @countenance, @Broski, @Harry Baldwin, @Mark Caplan, @Connecticut Famer

    I notice that Bernie has never worn his Judaism on his sleeve; the locus of his political life and that which gets his engine going is Scandinavian style egalitarian economic social democracy.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @countenance

    Some of the Jewish pundits on Twitter are miffed that he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants. Is he even a practicing Jew? Is he an atheist?

    https://twitter.com/chemishalev/status/697251939575336961

    Replies: @rvg, @Lagertha, @Harry Baldwin, @ben tillman

  23. @boogerbently
    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
    How has Hillary been pulling this off ?

    Replies: @Broski, @AndrewR, @Stephen R. Diamond, @tbraton, @AnAnon

    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.

    True, but then most politicians who want to restrict immigration also do NOT support blacks or lower class whites. [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites – except, as he’s explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]

    • Replies: @Broski
    @Stephen R. Diamond


    [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites - except, as he's explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]
     
    Trump has great affection for his social lessers. It's called noblesse oblige, and every European peopledom used to involve it as a lubricant between the peasants and the rest. It's also rational from an evolutionary psychology perspective. The smartest man will have some average great grandchildren.

    The pro-wrestler "loser" stuff is fine, too, because Scots Irish, and blacks too, among others, like it.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Das
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Meh, Trump has shown a lot more concern for lower class whites and blacks than any of the other Republicans.

    Restricting immigration, renegotiating trade deals, protecting Social Security, "not letting people die in the streets," etc.

    It's Rubio and the rest of the establishment who have said down-on-their-luck Americans are just pathetic losers who need to be replaced by cheaper Latino help.

    , @rod1963
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Most Republican pols for the last 30 years have been virulently anti-white working and middle-class judging by the policies they have supported. They openly supported job and industry destroying trade agreements like NAFTA, PNTR with China and telling the American worker basically "tough s**t, find another job" while they retire to a life of luxury and mid-six figure consultant contracts after they leave office.

    In regards to immigration, most were and are quite soft on illegal immigration since they are dependent on Chambers of Commerce donors to finance their campaigns. GW Bush tried to ram through amnesty in his last term and push the NAU and was only stopped by the House that still believed in it's duty at the time. Nor did Bush do anything to restrict Muslim immigration to the U.S. and was a big fan of selling critical infrastructure to foreign nations.

    A real rotter and all around traitor.

    Trump compared to this band of sociopathic Ayn Randians/globalists is a saint. Unlike them he actually did something with his life - instead of being a professional parasite like those failed lawyers on Capitol Hill. Guys like Bush, Rubio, Fiorina, Cristy, and Cruz because of what they are, can't relate to the average American worker or displaced ones. Because none of them ever worked a day in their life or bet their own money and built something they can be proud of.

    Outside of Trump none of them even care about the trade deficit, the loss of our manufacturing base, the massive permanent group of white unemployed and watching our country become something out of Idiotocracy and Argentina.

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    , @Former Darfur
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Trump would never have gotten his projects built out without skilled white construction workers and he knows it.

  24. @Broski
    If Hillary is to win, she needs black antisemitism at full force. We'll see how Sharpton and Jackson choose. Who was the "hymie town" utterer?

    Another thing about big, bad antisemitism: has anyone heard of Bernie having any problems at all because he's Jewish? Seems not to be a force among his overwhelmingly white fans. Most of them don't realize or care.

    Replies: @countenance, @Broski, @Harry Baldwin, @Mark Caplan, @Connecticut Famer

    Clintonian chess prediction: Hillary will entice Farrakhan or another such figure to go after Bernie’s Jewishness.

    Remember this comment, friends.

  25. Re: New Hampshire. Hillary should have gone for a coin toss.

    Perhaps she’ll try it in Nevada or South Carolina.

  26. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @boogerbently


    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
     
    True, but then most politicians who want to restrict immigration also do NOT support blacks or lower class whites. [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites - except, as he's explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]

    Replies: @Broski, @Das, @rod1963, @Former Darfur

    [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites – except, as he’s explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]

    Trump has great affection for his social lessers. It’s called noblesse oblige, and every European peopledom used to involve it as a lubricant between the peasants and the rest. It’s also rational from an evolutionary psychology perspective. The smartest man will have some average great grandchildren.

    The pro-wrestler “loser” stuff is fine, too, because Scots Irish, and blacks too, among others, like it.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Broski

    Being a loser isn't about where you rank, it's where you rank compared to where you should.

    Replies: @Sparkling Wiggle

  27. I wonder how much Hillary is being hurt among young women because she and her surrogates (Madelaine Albright and Gloria Steinem) look so out of date and elderly.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/331671-clinton-steinem-albright-backlash/

    Eeeyaaarg!!

    Ripe for an iSteve variation on Sailer’s law about female journalists.

  28. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @boogerbently


    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
     
    True, but then most politicians who want to restrict immigration also do NOT support blacks or lower class whites. [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites - except, as he's explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]

    Replies: @Broski, @Das, @rod1963, @Former Darfur

    Meh, Trump has shown a lot more concern for lower class whites and blacks than any of the other Republicans.

    Restricting immigration, renegotiating trade deals, protecting Social Security, “not letting people die in the streets,” etc.

    It’s Rubio and the rest of the establishment who have said down-on-their-luck Americans are just pathetic losers who need to be replaced by cheaper Latino help.

  29. @countenance
    @Broski

    I notice that Bernie has never worn his Judaism on his sleeve; the locus of his political life and that which gets his engine going is Scandinavian style egalitarian economic social democracy.

    Replies: @Ed

    Some of the Jewish pundits on Twitter are miffed that he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants. Is he even a practicing Jew? Is he an atheist?

    • Replies: @rvg
    @Ed

    He sounds like a mischling wannabe self-hating Jew.

    , @Lagertha
    @Ed

    I think it is obvious that he is an atheist. But, he lives in beautiful Vermont, and, when you walk in the woods in the morning's first light, God, or what we think may be God, shines his rays like open arms down to us through the snow laden limbs of fir trees, on our path in the woods. Sheeesh, I would not have made a great Lutheran pastor!

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Ed

    he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants.

    Sanders is the son of Polish immigrants who came to America to change it radically, from what I gather.

    , @ben tillman
    @Ed


    Is it parochial to be irked a bit by Sanders describing himself as the son of “Polish immigrant”?
     
    Has this guy ever met a Jew who lives among the goyim? Does he even realize other Jews live in galut? That seems to be standard operating procedure for Ashkenazim: I'm Polish/Russian/bla bla bla. In fact, I once got that line from a Jewish woman named Sanders.
  30. More seriously, I’m interested in how the media reports the SC result (which I think will go for Clinton) as that will demonstrate how much influence the Clintons still have.

    If they run stories proclaiming the end of Sanders’ candidacy (too old, too white, too whatever) and tell us Hillary’s going to be the first woman president, that would be significant. It’s also what I predict.

    If, on the other hand, we get stories to the effect that she was always predicted to win the state, nothing-to-see-here, then things will be interesting.

    I am actually watching how the Democratic propaganda machine — the media — spins this.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @celt darnell

    Apropos your interest in how the media will report the results of a Clinton loss: I just clicked onto the MSN website and here's how its top story photo montage box looks:

    Under a general header reading "New Hampshire Primary," the lead place--taking up the entire left-hand half of the montage--is a shot of Bill C. kissing an ecstatic-looking Hillary (on the cheek, of course) with the headline "Winners and losers from New Hampshire," via the Washington Post. From the pic, you'd think Hollary [sic] was the winner.

    Occupying less that a quarter of the montage in the upper right is a horizontal, dimly-lit shot of Trump with the headline (which dominates the pic) "Trump rout plunges GOP into chaos," from The Hill.

    The remaining space in the lower right is a blurry shot of the audience at the Sanders rally, with Bernie barely distinguishable amid the sea of white faces (!) with the revealing headline, "After win, Sanders faces a new test," via USA Today.

    I wonder whether that constitutes a donation to the Clinton Foundation?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  31. Some of the Jewish pundits on Twitter are miffed that he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants. Is he even a practicing Jew? Is he an atheist?

    Most Jews don’t know what anxieties animate their positions. Nor do most other peoples. Look at women, and the way game broke open their attraction triggers so losers have gotten laid by the millions over the past 15 years.

    Most Jews truly think they’re good, compassionate people motivated by love. It is only systematic analysis that reveals their animosity toward homogenous host populations, etc.

  32. @Ed
    @countenance

    Some of the Jewish pundits on Twitter are miffed that he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants. Is he even a practicing Jew? Is he an atheist?

    https://twitter.com/chemishalev/status/697251939575336961

    Replies: @rvg, @Lagertha, @Harry Baldwin, @ben tillman

    He sounds like a mischling wannabe self-hating Jew.

  33. Mrs. Clinton is co-opting the Flint, Michigan problem. She will make it a black thing.

    Bernie’s meeting with Sharpton will amount to nothing. Reverend Al goes to the highest bidder and is already bought and paid for.

    What’s funny about all this is that the left is choosing between a grifter and a socialist. It fits.

    The grifter will be their nominee — and get Trumped in the election.

  34. (Sanders is meeting with Al Sharpton tomorrow morning, so he’s upping the ante.)

    I’ve always wondered how these Al&Sharpton meetings go. Do they get down to brass tacks and give a specific dollar amount for support? Or do they obfuscate what they’re looking for?

    • Replies: @iffen
    @Lugash

    Wonder no more Lugash.

    They agree to pay a certain amount to tax-free organizations controlled by the "not-bribee". These are usually Get Out The Vote type organizations.

    , @ben tillman
    @Lugash


    I’ve always wondered how these Al&Sharpton meetings go. Do they get down to brass tacks and give a specific dollar amount for support?
     
    And can Stephen Pagones serve his writ of garnishment in time?
  35. @Wilkey
    The god news for Hillary is that South Carolina's primary is only 3 days before Super Tuesday. The bad news is that Super Tuesday also has a lot of heavily black states - Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and Virginia.

    But they're not as black as South Carolina, which (iirc) after Mississippi is the blackest state in the country. She could avoid trying to pander to blacks in those states and focus on the whiter states, but the problem with that is that Super Tuesday also includes a lot of SWPL states with Dems that probably adore Bernie - Vermont, Minnesota, North Dakota, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Colorado.

    After tonight, after basically tying in Iowa and getting trounced in NH, her campaign may be all but over. I wouldn't be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race. They've got 3 weeks until Super Tuesday. It may very well be, given Hillary's legal problems, that someone has already been planning to jump in, and has been waiting for a moment just like this - "Hillary can't win!" - to do so.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Diversity Heretic, @EriK, @AnotherDad

    …Super Tuesday also includes a lot of SWPL states with Dems that probably adore Bernie – Vermont, Minnesota, North Dakota, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Colorado.

    Any of you want to babysit our kids while I tout the Donald at one caucus and my wife does the same for Bernie at the other?

    Primaries are easier on family life. But not only can you campaign at caucus, you pretty much have to.

  36. Bernie Sanders is 74 years old. His mother was born in the USA. His father came here almost 100 years ago when he was 17. And his father had been in this country for 20 years (1941) when Bernie was born.

    But now he’s playing the “Son of Polish Immigrants” card. Why not “son of Polish Jewish Immigrants”?

    I wonder if Bernie was playing up hyphenated American status when he first ran for office 30 years ago? I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Honesthughgrant


    His father came here almost 100 years ago when he was 17.
     
    So Bernie can join Ann Coulter's list of those ineligible to be inaugurated as president, along with Nikki Haley, Bobbi Jindal, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, George Romney, and Barack Obama.
  37. BTW, Bernie is going nowhere, Southerners – black or white – ain’t voting for a Vermont Socialist with a Brooklyn accent who proclaims himself the “Son of Polish Immigrants”.

    The Bernie show is just entertainment. He’s the Washington generals to Hillary’s globetrotters.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Honesthughgrant


    Vermont Socialist with a Brooklyn accent who proclaims himself the “Son of Polish Immigrants”
     
    Midwestern swing states have routinely elected old Jewish socialists, for instance Howard Metzenbaum, Carl and Sander Levin, Herb Kohl. I think they all were elected for decades and retired from office past 80.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  38. @Hepp
    I don't see any reason to believe that blacks in the South are immune from more general trends in the Democratic party. They're not wedded to Hillary in the way they'd be wedded to a black candidate. Even if they do stay with her, in how many states are black voters a majority of democrats? Certainly NC, SC, GA, AL, LA, MS, AR, TN. How many more? Seems like in most states it's still a majority white party. There are some states where Hispanics are a large portion of the Democratic coalition, but they're even more likely to switch than blacks.

    Hillary is really unlikeable. Sanders could very well win this.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jonathan Silber

    Yes, blacks mostly back Clinton because they’re highly political, very low information voters. They back the Dem that they’ve heard about and known for decades. Otherwise they’d be flocking to Bernie’s Free Stuff platform.

  39. Pandering to the blacks will be even riskier now that there’s a republican frontrunner who won’t be afraid to call them on it.

  40. @FactsAreImportant
    OT

    How on earth did the NYT allow this anti-immigration screed onto its Op-Ed page?

    Overton Window ... Barbarians storming the NYT gates ... Trump. (Fill in the obvious commentary.)

    The millions of people storming the borders of the European Union today are right to believe that migration is the best revolution. It is a revolution of the individual, not the masses. The European Union is more attractive than any 20th-century utopia, for the simple reason that it exists. But as it looks today, the migrants’ revolution could easily inspire a counterrevolution in Europe.
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/opinion/will-germany-give-up-on-integration.html?ref=opinion

    Replies: @Broski

    How on earth did the NYT allow this anti-immigration screed onto its Op-Ed page?

    See my comments to the same article on the debate open thread yesterday.

    • Replies: @FactsAreImportant
    @Broski

    Thanks.

  41. @Bert
    @SFG

    And yet their tapwater is still undrinkable.

    Replies: @Bu'bha al-Teksani

    Wrong. The water is just fine, the food is pretty great, wine is nice, the Uruguayos are eminently civil and friendly folks, the kids are cute as hell, all done up in smocks like French schoolchildren, street dogs are not starving and not ferocious — it reminds of small-town America in the 50s with a Latin overlay. It’s a splendid little country.

    • Replies: @Joe Sweet
    @Bu'bha al-Teksani

    "Bu'bha al-Teksani"

    Ha! Great handle.

    It brings to mind something that occurred to me in 2004 when reflecting on the disaster of W's wars: that it's possible that "yee-ha!" is derived from "jihad".

    Replies: @tbraton

  42. @Honesthughgrant
    Bernie Sanders is 74 years old. His mother was born in the USA. His father came here almost 100 years ago when he was 17. And his father had been in this country for 20 years (1941) when Bernie was born.

    But now he's playing the "Son of Polish Immigrants" card. Why not "son of Polish Jewish Immigrants"?

    I wonder if Bernie was playing up hyphenated American status when he first ran for office 30 years ago? I doubt it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    His father came here almost 100 years ago when he was 17.

    So Bernie can join Ann Coulter’s list of those ineligible to be inaugurated as president, along with Nikki Haley, Bobbi Jindal, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, George Romney, and Barack Obama.

  43. A quick correction – the Nevada caucus dates are reversed. Should be Feb 20 for Dems and Feb 23 for Repubs. I even changed affiliation for this one 😀

  44. Ben Shapiro is offering Bernie’s campaign $1000 if he will adopt a policy of black reparations. That would be the end of the Hilldebeast.

  45. @Prof. Woland
    SC is a white state as for as the Republicans are concerned. Not much different from NH in that regard.

    Replies: @Discard

    But unlike Iowa and Vermont, the Whites in South Carolina are personally familiar with Blacks and their foibles.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Discard


    But unlike Iowa and Vermont, the Whites in South Carolina are personally familiar with Blacks and their foibles.
     
    They've always liked having them around. Dixie makes the Chinese look scrutable in comparison.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

  46. @Ed
    @countenance

    Some of the Jewish pundits on Twitter are miffed that he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants. Is he even a practicing Jew? Is he an atheist?

    https://twitter.com/chemishalev/status/697251939575336961

    Replies: @rvg, @Lagertha, @Harry Baldwin, @ben tillman

    I think it is obvious that he is an atheist. But, he lives in beautiful Vermont, and, when you walk in the woods in the morning’s first light, God, or what we think may be God, shines his rays like open arms down to us through the snow laden limbs of fir trees, on our path in the woods. Sheeesh, I would not have made a great Lutheran pastor!

  47. @Bill P
    I wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary call for reparations in order to get the black vote. That would really make things interesting.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Anon

    Sanders is not an obviously Jewish name. It sounds English. I doubt many of Sanders’ supporters know that he’s Jewish.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    He said he's Jewish while standing next to lookalike Larry David on Saturday Night Live.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @Brutusale
    @Anon

    Yet the most visible Jew on television adopted the name for his character.

  48. @Broski
    If Hillary is to win, she needs black antisemitism at full force. We'll see how Sharpton and Jackson choose. Who was the "hymie town" utterer?

    Another thing about big, bad antisemitism: has anyone heard of Bernie having any problems at all because he's Jewish? Seems not to be a force among his overwhelmingly white fans. Most of them don't realize or care.

    Replies: @countenance, @Broski, @Harry Baldwin, @Mark Caplan, @Connecticut Famer

    The fact that Sanders is a Jew probably works against him with a large percentage of blacks and Hispanics, but you’ll never hear that possibility raised in the media.

  49. @Ed
    @countenance

    Some of the Jewish pundits on Twitter are miffed that he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants. Is he even a practicing Jew? Is he an atheist?

    https://twitter.com/chemishalev/status/697251939575336961

    Replies: @rvg, @Lagertha, @Harry Baldwin, @ben tillman

    he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants.

    Sanders is the son of Polish immigrants who came to America to change it radically, from what I gather.

  50. @Anon
    @Bill P

    Sanders is not an obviously Jewish name. It sounds English. I doubt many of Sanders' supporters know that he's Jewish.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    He said he’s Jewish while standing next to lookalike Larry David on Saturday Night Live.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Steve Sailer

    Many Americans have only a vague or no idea of what Jews are or Judaism is.

    Replies: @Bill P

  51. My list of ‘why not Hillary?’:

    1. the Democrat fat cats/West Coast gazillionaires fell in love with Barack and chucked my girl out on the curb. So, now, after 8 years, we suddenly have to give her a second chance? really, why? The Dem rich guys/girls on the west and east coasts in their fabulous homes (and all the fracking pundits, talking heads, you know who you are!) in 2007-2008 threw Hillary to the curb…so THEY are responsible for this upset TODAY in NH. They didn’t want her in 2008, they were infatuated with Obama, so, why are they surprised now?????

    2. If she had divorced Bill, I would have been proud of her. I would have dumped my husband after the first bimbo, would have killed him after 4 bimbos. The fact that she turned mercenary to become “a contender” turned me off.

    3. Her ties to Wall Street. Her daughter’s ties to Wall Street. Yale’s ties (all Ivies, really) ties to Wall Street.

    4. Deciding to have a computer server at home was a bad idea. Benghazi was bad, but what else is there in the servers?

    5. Tarja Halonen, the President of Finland in the 90’s thought Hillary would make a great president, but, Hillary could not shed all of the things that were going on in the states long after Tarja said this, along with the disaster of the USA entering Iraq (which she voted for) in early 2000’s, to know that it’s too late, now. I genuinely like Hillary, but, she stumbled on into wanting the presidency, but I feel it will elude her. Had she stayed alone (after dumping Bill) I believe she would have had a chance.

  52. @Broski
    @Stephen R. Diamond


    [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites - except, as he's explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]
     
    Trump has great affection for his social lessers. It's called noblesse oblige, and every European peopledom used to involve it as a lubricant between the peasants and the rest. It's also rational from an evolutionary psychology perspective. The smartest man will have some average great grandchildren.

    The pro-wrestler "loser" stuff is fine, too, because Scots Irish, and blacks too, among others, like it.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Being a loser isn’t about where you rank, it’s where you rank compared to where you should.

    • Replies: @Sparkling Wiggle
    @Desiderius

    Yes, Trump calls people losers who have failed or disgraced their positions: ¡Jeb!, John McCain, etc. It's a job performance thing, and he truly feels contempt for weak, rent-seeking politicians who devote their lives to crafting a public image but then fall apart in a debate.

    I've never heard him direct the term at, say, an unemployed welder.

  53. @Honesthughgrant
    BTW, Bernie is going nowhere, Southerners - black or white - ain't voting for a Vermont Socialist with a Brooklyn accent who proclaims himself the "Son of Polish Immigrants".

    The Bernie show is just entertainment. He's the Washington generals to Hillary's globetrotters.

    Replies: @Lot

    Vermont Socialist with a Brooklyn accent who proclaims himself the “Son of Polish Immigrants”

    Midwestern swing states have routinely elected old Jewish socialists, for instance Howard Metzenbaum, Carl and Sander Levin, Herb Kohl. I think they all were elected for decades and retired from office past 80.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Lot


    Midwestern swing states have routinely elected old Jewish socialists, for instance Howard Metzenbaum, Carl and Sander Levin, Herb Kohl.
     
    Young ones, too. Don't forget Paul Wellstone. The kids loved him.
  54. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    He said he's Jewish while standing next to lookalike Larry David on Saturday Night Live.

    Replies: @Lot

    Many Americans have only a vague or no idea of what Jews are or Judaism is.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Lot

    True. In some common walks of white gentile life - including some fairly affluent ones - Jews are rarely encountered.

    But it goes as much the other way, and arguably more so. Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.

    People often fail to grasp the demographic enormity of the United States.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @Former Darfur

  55. Why hasn’t Barack Obama come out for her? She must be miffed at that—her old boss won’t endorse her when she needs it. The Affirmative Action president could drum up the black vote merely by showing up at her campaign rallies in SC and voting present.

    In related news, I can’t believe these pundits who think Hilary is a good campaigner. She got smoked in 2008 by a non-entity, despite having a bigger warchest, more “boots on the ground”, a huger name recognition, and her husband. Now, in 2016, she’s getting smoked by a 74 year old crazy commie with a funny accent and wild eyed schemes. She’s pretty much the worst “inevitable” candidate ever.

    Her only electoral wins are two senate victories in a state where just winning the dem primary gives you the election. Her celebrity and money worked there to drown out all the other dem poseurs in the first run, while the second win was incumbency.

    This broad ain’t a good campaigner, is what I’m saying.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @whorefinder


    Her only electoral wins are two senate victories in a state where just winning the dem primary gives you the election.
     
    WRONG!!!!

    Hillary was handed Daniel Patrick Moynihan's senate seat without a fight.

    Remember Moynihan was opposed to the first Gulf War and would have been opposed to the post 9/11 Iraq Invasion. The severely alcoholic Moynihan was conned into believing by Slick Willy that Hillary would continue on in his legacy.

    In reality Hillary was always the favorite of the pro-war Zionist wing, think the New Republic's Crazy Marty Peretz and Haim Saban crowd of the Democratic party, not to mention the Wall Street Financial and Globalist wings. There was no way in hell Hillary was going to vote against the next Iraq War, nor was she going to be opposed to setting the Middle East ablaze by supporting the overthrow of authoritarian Mid East regimes in favor of the spread of Islamist terror.

    Put Hillary in the White House and she will get us in another mid-east war as sure as if you elected Lindsay Graham.

    Bill Clinton engineered Hillary's move into the senate in much the same way any philandering billionaire avoids divorce court by showering his aging trophy wife with diamond rings and plastic surgery and chairs on the local arts council and charity boards. Meanwhile, the globetrotting Big Dog went on a 15 year international f**kfest.

    Replies: @Jimi

    , @Bill Jones
    @whorefinder

    The level of cognitive dissonance in anybody who would even consider voting for the corrupt slab of rotting meat Clinton is astonishing.

    Replies: @tbraton

  56. @Discard
    @Prof. Woland

    But unlike Iowa and Vermont, the Whites in South Carolina are personally familiar with Blacks and their foibles.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    But unlike Iowa and Vermont, the Whites in South Carolina are personally familiar with Blacks and their foibles.

    They’ve always liked having them around. Dixie makes the Chinese look scrutable in comparison.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Reg Cæsar

    The old line patrician Dixie attitude towards blacks is that they are a potentially dangerous but usually manageable herd of useful beasts, being essentially children in adult bodies, and easily identifiable by their color and features so they are not mistakable for serious people, unlike the cracker whites, who can fool you sometimes.

    Provided all the whites of means and some intellectual ability were on board with the program, it worked sort of well at the time, but most would now admit it was a foolish idea. More than one thoroughly unreconstructed Southron has admitted to me that although old Abe Lincoln was a murderous bastard, they wished he'd live to carry out his plan to send them back to Africa, or if infeasible due to economy, South America.

  57. @Lot
    @Steve Sailer

    Many Americans have only a vague or no idea of what Jews are or Judaism is.

    Replies: @Bill P

    True. In some common walks of white gentile life – including some fairly affluent ones – Jews are rarely encountered.

    But it goes as much the other way, and arguably more so. Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.

    People often fail to grasp the demographic enormity of the United States.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Bill P

    Pretty much everybody I knew growing up in the San Fernando Valley was either Catholic or Jewish (except for the Asians, who were Protestants). I had one neighborhood friend whose father was some kind of Protestant bishop. He was very nice and, looking back, there was less yelling at his house than at most of my other friends' houses.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.
     
    Oh, but their gay and SWPL neighbors will clue them in-- many of them are in exile from little flyover burgs. You couldn't pay them enough to go back.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Sparkling Wiggle

    , @Former Darfur
    @Bill P

    In the Midwest one encounters a number of people who are biologically part Jewish but have never been in a synagogue and are oblivious to Jewish matters. They know that Grandpa Sill was a Silverman originally but it's of no import to them. Such people are certainly not even a sizable minority, but there are probably as many of them as there are actual Jews identifying as such and in some cities more.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  58. @Lot
    @Honesthughgrant


    Vermont Socialist with a Brooklyn accent who proclaims himself the “Son of Polish Immigrants”
     
    Midwestern swing states have routinely elected old Jewish socialists, for instance Howard Metzenbaum, Carl and Sander Levin, Herb Kohl. I think they all were elected for decades and retired from office past 80.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Midwestern swing states have routinely elected old Jewish socialists, for instance Howard Metzenbaum, Carl and Sander Levin, Herb Kohl.

    Young ones, too. Don’t forget Paul Wellstone. The kids loved him.

  59. @Bill P
    @Lot

    True. In some common walks of white gentile life - including some fairly affluent ones - Jews are rarely encountered.

    But it goes as much the other way, and arguably more so. Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.

    People often fail to grasp the demographic enormity of the United States.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @Former Darfur

    Pretty much everybody I knew growing up in the San Fernando Valley was either Catholic or Jewish (except for the Asians, who were Protestants). I had one neighborhood friend whose father was some kind of Protestant bishop. He was very nice and, looking back, there was less yelling at his house than at most of my other friends’ houses.

  60. @Broski
    @FactsAreImportant


    How on earth did the NYT allow this anti-immigration screed onto its Op-Ed page?
     
    See my comments to the same article on the debate open thread yesterday.

    Replies: @FactsAreImportant

    Thanks.

  61. Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?

    That’s Bill’s job!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @NickG



    Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?
     
    That’s Bill’s job!
     
    Come again?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @iffen

  62. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @boogerbently


    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
     
    True, but then most politicians who want to restrict immigration also do NOT support blacks or lower class whites. [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites - except, as he's explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]

    Replies: @Broski, @Das, @rod1963, @Former Darfur

    Most Republican pols for the last 30 years have been virulently anti-white working and middle-class judging by the policies they have supported. They openly supported job and industry destroying trade agreements like NAFTA, PNTR with China and telling the American worker basically “tough s**t, find another job” while they retire to a life of luxury and mid-six figure consultant contracts after they leave office.

    In regards to immigration, most were and are quite soft on illegal immigration since they are dependent on Chambers of Commerce donors to finance their campaigns. GW Bush tried to ram through amnesty in his last term and push the NAU and was only stopped by the House that still believed in it’s duty at the time. Nor did Bush do anything to restrict Muslim immigration to the U.S. and was a big fan of selling critical infrastructure to foreign nations.

    A real rotter and all around traitor.

    Trump compared to this band of sociopathic Ayn Randians/globalists is a saint. Unlike them he actually did something with his life – instead of being a professional parasite like those failed lawyers on Capitol Hill. Guys like Bush, Rubio, Fiorina, Cristy, and Cruz because of what they are, can’t relate to the average American worker or displaced ones. Because none of them ever worked a day in their life or bet their own money and built something they can be proud of.

    Outside of Trump none of them even care about the trade deficit, the loss of our manufacturing base, the massive permanent group of white unemployed and watching our country become something out of Idiotocracy and Argentina.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @rod1963

    the loss of our manufacturing base

    Well Fiorina did her part.

  63. @Bill P
    @Lot

    True. In some common walks of white gentile life - including some fairly affluent ones - Jews are rarely encountered.

    But it goes as much the other way, and arguably more so. Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.

    People often fail to grasp the demographic enormity of the United States.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @Former Darfur

    Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.

    Oh, but their gay and SWPL neighbors will clue them in– many of them are in exile from little flyover burgs. You couldn’t pay them enough to go back.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Reg Cæsar

    That's been true for a good long while, but something different is in the air. A lot of hipsters prefer the little burg feel to suburbia. They've been refurbishing a lot of the old main streets around the city.

    , @Sparkling Wiggle
    @Reg Cæsar

    There's some fodder for a Sailer theory: how much of the leftist elite's idea of flyover country is shaped by anecdotes from flyover-country misfits and exiles?

    Maybe that's why they think we all ride around in our pickup trucks lookin' for queers to bash on a Friday night before headin' down to the revival meetin'.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Bill P

  64. @NickG

    Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?
     
    That's Bill's job!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?

    That’s Bill’s job!

    Come again?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Reg Cæsar

    Spit it out, why doncha?

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @iffen
    @Reg Cæsar

    Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?

    That’s Bill’s job!

    Come again?

    I suspect she's not a moderate anymore. She probably supports Bernie, or she may even be a Republican by now.

    Replies: @JSM

  65. @Wilkey
    The god news for Hillary is that South Carolina's primary is only 3 days before Super Tuesday. The bad news is that Super Tuesday also has a lot of heavily black states - Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and Virginia.

    But they're not as black as South Carolina, which (iirc) after Mississippi is the blackest state in the country. She could avoid trying to pander to blacks in those states and focus on the whiter states, but the problem with that is that Super Tuesday also includes a lot of SWPL states with Dems that probably adore Bernie - Vermont, Minnesota, North Dakota, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Colorado.

    After tonight, after basically tying in Iowa and getting trounced in NH, her campaign may be all but over. I wouldn't be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race. They've got 3 weeks until Super Tuesday. It may very well be, given Hillary's legal problems, that someone has already been planning to jump in, and has been waiting for a moment just like this - "Hillary can't win!" - to do so.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Diversity Heretic, @EriK, @AnotherDad

    My prediction, for what it’s worth, is a Joe Biden candidacy with Elizabeth Warren as the vice-presidential nominee. Biden runs as a “third Obama term,” and promises to be a one-term president, while the obvious successor (Warren) is being prepared. The narrative (we need a female president) is preserved, albeit deferred. The big drawback is age: Biden is already in his 70s and Elizabeth Warren will be 71 in 2020. But age doesn’t seem to be a big factor today. Perhaps a younger Hispanic running mate would make better sense, but I think that the “we need a woman” wing of the Democratic Party is very strong.

    The meltdown of Hillary Clinton if she loses the nomination will be epic.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Diversity Heretic

    The meltdown of Hillary Clinton if she loses the nomination will be epic.

    I picture a drunk Hillary showing up at the DNC convention like James Mason at the Oscars at the end of "A Star is Born."
    http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/21884/Star-is-Born-A-Movie-Clip-I-Need-A-Job.html

    Replies: @Seamus Padraig

  66. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @boogerbently


    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
     
    True, but then most politicians who want to restrict immigration also do NOT support blacks or lower class whites. [Do you think Trump, with his anti-loser arrogance, has any regard for lower class whites - except, as he's explained, that it would look bad for them to be dying on the streets?]

    Replies: @Broski, @Das, @rod1963, @Former Darfur

    Trump would never have gotten his projects built out without skilled white construction workers and he knows it.

  67. @tyrone
    if hillary doesn't win big in s.c. she needs to quit. bernie should of been kissing sharpton's ass six months ago.THUMP all the way baby!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    bernie should of been kissing…

    Sheet! Wheh you be goin’ ta skool?

    • Replies: @iffen
    @Reg Cæsar

    So you went to school and did quite well at your lessons.

    All that time spent and the culmination is posting comments like this one.

  68. @Bill P
    @Lot

    True. In some common walks of white gentile life - including some fairly affluent ones - Jews are rarely encountered.

    But it goes as much the other way, and arguably more so. Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.

    People often fail to grasp the demographic enormity of the United States.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar, @Former Darfur

    In the Midwest one encounters a number of people who are biologically part Jewish but have never been in a synagogue and are oblivious to Jewish matters. They know that Grandpa Sill was a Silverman originally but it’s of no import to them. Such people are certainly not even a sizable minority, but there are probably as many of them as there are actual Jews identifying as such and in some cities more.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Former Darfur

    Nobody seems to count how many people who are part Jewish by ancestry but who don't identify as Jewish. At one point I was keeping a mental list of such people from reading their autobiographies, but it got too long to keep in my head. I recall Colin Powell and Edward O. Wilson as examples I would not have guessed.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Rob McX, @iSteveFan, @Ex-banker

  69. @Former Darfur
    @Bill P

    In the Midwest one encounters a number of people who are biologically part Jewish but have never been in a synagogue and are oblivious to Jewish matters. They know that Grandpa Sill was a Silverman originally but it's of no import to them. Such people are certainly not even a sizable minority, but there are probably as many of them as there are actual Jews identifying as such and in some cities more.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Nobody seems to count how many people who are part Jewish by ancestry but who don’t identify as Jewish. At one point I was keeping a mental list of such people from reading their autobiographies, but it got too long to keep in my head. I recall Colin Powell and Edward O. Wilson as examples I would not have guessed.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Steve Sailer

    My neighbors are pretty good examples. The wife resembles Bebe Neuwirth and the husband offhandedly commented that his original family name was an almost exclusively Jewish one, but they are churchgoing Presbyterians and they show absolutely no sign of any awareness of Jewish anything.

    What the odds of them ever being allowed to make aliyah under the Law of Return are I have no idea, but I would guess "not much".

    Replies: @Karl

    , @Rob McX, @iSteveFan
    @Steve Sailer

    Are there any estimates on the flip side, that is how many Jews are part non-Jewish by ancestry, but who nevertheless identify as Jewish? There are about 15 million Jews worldwide. What percentage of them have significant amounts, 1/4 or more, of non-Jewish ancestry?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Ex-banker
    @Steve Sailer

    John Kerry. His brother converted (back?) at some point.

    Replies: @Lot

  70. Steve since being Blacker than thou is SWPL heaven, Hillary going full reparations will only increase her base support. I sadly don’t see a downside … SWPL young women figure it will be some old White guy or beta male not them paying reparations. And SWPL men will follow along to placate women.

    Dems pretty much are Blacks and SWPLs.

  71. @Reg Cæsar
    @Discard


    But unlike Iowa and Vermont, the Whites in South Carolina are personally familiar with Blacks and their foibles.
     
    They've always liked having them around. Dixie makes the Chinese look scrutable in comparison.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    The old line patrician Dixie attitude towards blacks is that they are a potentially dangerous but usually manageable herd of useful beasts, being essentially children in adult bodies, and easily identifiable by their color and features so they are not mistakable for serious people, unlike the cracker whites, who can fool you sometimes.

    Provided all the whites of means and some intellectual ability were on board with the program, it worked sort of well at the time, but most would now admit it was a foolish idea. More than one thoroughly unreconstructed Southron has admitted to me that although old Abe Lincoln was a murderous bastard, they wished he’d live to carry out his plan to send them back to Africa, or if infeasible due to economy, South America.

  72. @Steve Sailer
    @Former Darfur

    Nobody seems to count how many people who are part Jewish by ancestry but who don't identify as Jewish. At one point I was keeping a mental list of such people from reading their autobiographies, but it got too long to keep in my head. I recall Colin Powell and Edward O. Wilson as examples I would not have guessed.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Rob McX, @iSteveFan, @Ex-banker

    My neighbors are pretty good examples. The wife resembles Bebe Neuwirth and the husband offhandedly commented that his original family name was an almost exclusively Jewish one, but they are churchgoing Presbyterians and they show absolutely no sign of any awareness of Jewish anything.

    What the odds of them ever being allowed to make aliyah under the Law of Return are I have no idea, but I would guess “not much”.

    • Replies: @Karl
    @Former Darfur

    >> What the odds of them ever being allowed to make aliyah under the Law of Return are I have no idea, but I would guess “not much”

    If they are persistent, and take counsel from people who know the ropes - and if they themselves LOOK LIKE an asset to a country - they could probably get in. It's more a matter of persistence than of categorical rules. All the Russian Orthodox and the Catholic Filipinos got in & eventually received papers.

    There is NOT a Saudi style "religious police" here. The State Security Organs are 100% secular, and in fact the Police are heavily-laden with muslim Circassians & Arabic-speaking Druse. It's a pretty good civil-service job.

    Even the africans (the ones who are smart enough to keep a low profile) usually are here for years and years and years.

    Once you've got a kid in the gadna ( it's basically Jr ROTC) you really cannot be deported. when the kid is drafted - that's official. When the kid finishes conscript service, there's your permanent papers.

  73. @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.
     
    Oh, but their gay and SWPL neighbors will clue them in-- many of them are in exile from little flyover burgs. You couldn't pay them enough to go back.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Sparkling Wiggle

    That’s been true for a good long while, but something different is in the air. A lot of hipsters prefer the little burg feel to suburbia. They’ve been refurbishing a lot of the old main streets around the city.

  74. @whorefinder
    Why hasn't Barack Obama come out for her? She must be miffed at that---her old boss won't endorse her when she needs it. The Affirmative Action president could drum up the black vote merely by showing up at her campaign rallies in SC and voting present.

    In related news, I can't believe these pundits who think Hilary is a good campaigner. She got smoked in 2008 by a non-entity, despite having a bigger warchest, more "boots on the ground", a huger name recognition, and her husband. Now, in 2016, she's getting smoked by a 74 year old crazy commie with a funny accent and wild eyed schemes. She's pretty much the worst "inevitable" candidate ever.

    Her only electoral wins are two senate victories in a state where just winning the dem primary gives you the election. Her celebrity and money worked there to drown out all the other dem poseurs in the first run, while the second win was incumbency.

    This broad ain't a good campaigner, is what I'm saying.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Bill Jones

    Her only electoral wins are two senate victories in a state where just winning the dem primary gives you the election.

    WRONG!!!!

    Hillary was handed Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s senate seat without a fight.

    Remember Moynihan was opposed to the first Gulf War and would have been opposed to the post 9/11 Iraq Invasion. The severely alcoholic Moynihan was conned into believing by Slick Willy that Hillary would continue on in his legacy.

    In reality Hillary was always the favorite of the pro-war Zionist wing, think the New Republic’s Crazy Marty Peretz and Haim Saban crowd of the Democratic party, not to mention the Wall Street Financial and Globalist wings. There was no way in hell Hillary was going to vote against the next Iraq War, nor was she going to be opposed to setting the Middle East ablaze by supporting the overthrow of authoritarian Mid East regimes in favor of the spread of Islamist terror.

    Put Hillary in the White House and she will get us in another mid-east war as sure as if you elected Lindsay Graham.

    Bill Clinton engineered Hillary’s move into the senate in much the same way any philandering billionaire avoids divorce court by showering his aging trophy wife with diamond rings and plastic surgery and chairs on the local arts council and charity boards. Meanwhile, the globetrotting Big Dog went on a 15 year international f**kfest.

    • Replies: @Jimi
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Daniel Moynihan's successor was supposed to be Congresswomen Nita Lowey, a Jew born and raised in the Bronx. She was forced out of the race when Hillary Clinton decided to run for the senate seat. So much for "women helping other women."

    In return for not challenging Hillary publicly Nita Lowey was made chairwoman of the DCCC and made the ranking Democrat on the powerful House Appropriations Committee.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

  75. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    You hear a lot about how awful it is that the first two contests are in highly white states (Iowa and New Hampshire), but both parties seem to like it that way.

    Yup. I thought 20 years ago the Iowa caucus was an obsolete palm-greasing ritual, but I can see why party fixers find it so useful — like exploiting [X] years of NCAA eligibility to sharpen your pro team’s draft strategy, etc. It’s almost as if, left up to them, consultants prefer an arena with a high percentage of engaged multi-gen citizens who are mentally as well as emotionally susceptible to the inner mechanics and surface charade of political activism. Due to the states’ relatively small (not to say static) economies, this only reinforces itself over time.

  76. @Steve Sailer
    @Former Darfur

    Nobody seems to count how many people who are part Jewish by ancestry but who don't identify as Jewish. At one point I was keeping a mental list of such people from reading their autobiographies, but it got too long to keep in my head. I recall Colin Powell and Edward O. Wilson as examples I would not have guessed.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Rob McX, @iSteveFan, @Ex-banker

  77. What is black turnout usually like in Democratic primaries? It’s well-known that turnout among low-income and low-education voters (among whom blacks are disproportionately represented) is depressed during off-year elections. Is the same true of primaries? I’d be interested to see data, preferably from 2004; the 2008 and 2012 primaries might have had boosted African-American turnout because Obama was running.

    Even if black Democrats do favor Hillary, if they turn out at lower rates than SWPL Democrats, Sanders could still have the edge.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @JDG1980

    Even if both of the SWPL in SC vote for Bernie, it won't be enough.

  78. @Wilkey
    The god news for Hillary is that South Carolina's primary is only 3 days before Super Tuesday. The bad news is that Super Tuesday also has a lot of heavily black states - Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and Virginia.

    But they're not as black as South Carolina, which (iirc) after Mississippi is the blackest state in the country. She could avoid trying to pander to blacks in those states and focus on the whiter states, but the problem with that is that Super Tuesday also includes a lot of SWPL states with Dems that probably adore Bernie - Vermont, Minnesota, North Dakota, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Colorado.

    After tonight, after basically tying in Iowa and getting trounced in NH, her campaign may be all but over. I wouldn't be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race. They've got 3 weeks until Super Tuesday. It may very well be, given Hillary's legal problems, that someone has already been planning to jump in, and has been waiting for a moment just like this - "Hillary can't win!" - to do so.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Diversity Heretic, @EriK, @AnotherDad

    I wouldn’t be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race.

    I’m not seeing the DNC, under its titular head Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz, doing any such thing.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @EriK

    "Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz"

    I think of her as Comrade Ninotchka. Her motto being the "The Party Caucuses have been a great success, there will be fewer (i.e. Goyim) and better Democrats(i.e. Zionists)". Which is exactly how her boss Commissar Schumer wants it.

    Schultz sees her job as making sure that nobody gets the Democratic nomination unless they are a Jew(Sanders) or under the complete control of the Jewish Lobby (Hillary) and fully support the Ix3 agenda, that is Invade, Invite & Indebt!!!

    It not that Schultz is so much a Blabbermouth, talks too much, as much as she is unable to hold her tongue and not let slip her clear ethnocentric Jewish enthusiasms. Schumer is the much better smarmy two faced liar.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  79. @Broski
    If Hillary is to win, she needs black antisemitism at full force. We'll see how Sharpton and Jackson choose. Who was the "hymie town" utterer?

    Another thing about big, bad antisemitism: has anyone heard of Bernie having any problems at all because he's Jewish? Seems not to be a force among his overwhelmingly white fans. Most of them don't realize or care.

    Replies: @countenance, @Broski, @Harry Baldwin, @Mark Caplan, @Connecticut Famer

    Sanders has been married almost 30 years to an Irish Catholic social worker. He himself pretty much admits he is ethnically but not religiously Jewish, meaning he’s an atheist.

  80. @Diversity Heretic
    @Wilkey

    My prediction, for what it's worth, is a Joe Biden candidacy with Elizabeth Warren as the vice-presidential nominee. Biden runs as a "third Obama term," and promises to be a one-term president, while the obvious successor (Warren) is being prepared. The narrative (we need a female president) is preserved, albeit deferred. The big drawback is age: Biden is already in his 70s and Elizabeth Warren will be 71 in 2020. But age doesn't seem to be a big factor today. Perhaps a younger Hispanic running mate would make better sense, but I think that the "we need a woman" wing of the Democratic Party is very strong.

    The meltdown of Hillary Clinton if she loses the nomination will be epic.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    The meltdown of Hillary Clinton if she loses the nomination will be epic.

    I picture a drunk Hillary showing up at the DNC convention like James Mason at the Oscars at the end of “A Star is Born.”
    http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/21884/Star-is-Born-A-Movie-Clip-I-Need-A-Job.html

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    @Harry Baldwin

    Thanks for the hilarious image!

  81. @SFG
    OT, but fun:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/opinion/uruguays-quiet-democratic-miracle.html

    Look up their demographics. ;)

    Replies: @Bert, @Mark Caplan, @Truth

    Uruguay has an insignificant Indio population. It’s 88 percent European stock.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Mark Caplan

    So that's the answer to "Where do white men emigrate to?"

  82. @Lugash
    (Sanders is meeting with Al Sharpton tomorrow morning, so he’s upping the ante.)

    I've always wondered how these Al&Sharpton meetings go. Do they get down to brass tacks and give a specific dollar amount for support? Or do they obfuscate what they're looking for?

    Replies: @iffen, @ben tillman

    Wonder no more Lugash.

    They agree to pay a certain amount to tax-free organizations controlled by the “not-bribee”. These are usually Get Out The Vote type organizations.

  83. @Broski
    If Hillary is to win, she needs black antisemitism at full force. We'll see how Sharpton and Jackson choose. Who was the "hymie town" utterer?

    Another thing about big, bad antisemitism: has anyone heard of Bernie having any problems at all because he's Jewish? Seems not to be a force among his overwhelmingly white fans. Most of them don't realize or care.

    Replies: @countenance, @Broski, @Harry Baldwin, @Mark Caplan, @Connecticut Famer

    Someone on a local radio station mentioned that Sanders was the first Jew to win a presidential primary. Frankly I never gave his ethnicity any real thought except to the extent that at times he sounds like a counterman at a Kosher deli. Seriously though, compared to another potential Jewish candidate, the odious Bloomberg, Bernie is a “mensch.” His message is not totally inaccurate. A pity that he embraces a failed ideology.

  84. @Harry Baldwin
    @Diversity Heretic

    The meltdown of Hillary Clinton if she loses the nomination will be epic.

    I picture a drunk Hillary showing up at the DNC convention like James Mason at the Oscars at the end of "A Star is Born."
    http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/21884/Star-is-Born-A-Movie-Clip-I-Need-A-Job.html

    Replies: @Seamus Padraig

    Thanks for the hilarious image!

  85. @Reg Cæsar
    @NickG



    Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?
     
    That’s Bill’s job!
     
    Come again?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @iffen

    Spit it out, why doncha?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Jim Don Bob

    Yeah, well, WE'RE the ones getting schlonged!

  86. @JDG1980
    What is black turnout usually like in Democratic primaries? It's well-known that turnout among low-income and low-education voters (among whom blacks are disproportionately represented) is depressed during off-year elections. Is the same true of primaries? I'd be interested to see data, preferably from 2004; the 2008 and 2012 primaries might have had boosted African-American turnout because Obama was running.

    Even if black Democrats do favor Hillary, if they turn out at lower rates than SWPL Democrats, Sanders could still have the edge.

    Replies: @iffen

    Even if both of the SWPL in SC vote for Bernie, it won’t be enough.

  87. @celt darnell
    More seriously, I'm interested in how the media reports the SC result (which I think will go for Clinton) as that will demonstrate how much influence the Clintons still have.

    If they run stories proclaiming the end of Sanders' candidacy (too old, too white, too whatever) and tell us Hillary's going to be the first woman president, that would be significant. It's also what I predict.

    If, on the other hand, we get stories to the effect that she was always predicted to win the state, nothing-to-see-here, then things will be interesting.

    I am actually watching how the Democratic propaganda machine -- the media -- spins this.

    Replies: @ChrisZ

    Apropos your interest in how the media will report the results of a Clinton loss: I just clicked onto the MSN website and here’s how its top story photo montage box looks:

    Under a general header reading “New Hampshire Primary,” the lead place–taking up the entire left-hand half of the montage–is a shot of Bill C. kissing an ecstatic-looking Hillary (on the cheek, of course) with the headline “Winners and losers from New Hampshire,” via the Washington Post. From the pic, you’d think Hollary [sic] was the winner.

    Occupying less that a quarter of the montage in the upper right is a horizontal, dimly-lit shot of Trump with the headline (which dominates the pic) “Trump rout plunges GOP into chaos,” from The Hill.

    The remaining space in the lower right is a blurry shot of the audience at the Sanders rally, with Bernie barely distinguishable amid the sea of white faces (!) with the revealing headline, “After win, Sanders faces a new test,” via USA Today.

    I wonder whether that constitutes a donation to the Clinton Foundation?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @ChrisZ

    Well, Hillary did win the most delegates in NH--15 to Sanders' 13. Funny how that worked.

  88. @Hepp
    I don't see any reason to believe that blacks in the South are immune from more general trends in the Democratic party. They're not wedded to Hillary in the way they'd be wedded to a black candidate. Even if they do stay with her, in how many states are black voters a majority of democrats? Certainly NC, SC, GA, AL, LA, MS, AR, TN. How many more? Seems like in most states it's still a majority white party. There are some states where Hispanics are a large portion of the Democratic coalition, but they're even more likely to switch than blacks.

    Hillary is really unlikeable. Sanders could very well win this.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jonathan Silber

    Turnout of SC Dem Blacks in a primary featuring two old white people likely to be small.

  89. @SFG
    OT, but fun:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/opinion/uruguays-quiet-democratic-miracle.html

    Look up their demographics. ;)

    Replies: @Bert, @Mark Caplan, @Truth

    Look up their demographics. 😉

    Don’t have to, they were provided in your article.

    Today, the country has a large Afro-Uruguayan community — about 10 percent of the population is descended from slaves.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Truth

    It may have been edifying to see that Uruguay and Chile, the two countries identified as the most peaceful and prosperous in Latin America, have those with an African admixture at 4% and 2% respectively.

  90. Hillary’s winning coalition in South Carolina will be a classic high-low combination of wealthy liberal whites and poor blacks. Sanders represents younger, less wealthy, urban whites who have the audacity to want to dip their hands into the Free Stuff cookie jar. Poor blacks (and Latinos) realize that this cookie jar only holds so many Gimmedats and rich liberal whites realize they will be the ones contributing to the cookie jar. So poor blacks will vote for Hillary in order to maintain near monopoly access to the Gimmedats.

    This dynamic has not yet dawned on Bernie Sanders supporters. They are not programmed to think in these terms. It does leave open the possibility, perhaps medium term, between Trump and Sanders voters, to rally behind a Economic Nationalist / Social Democrat political leader who “reluctantly” decides that immigration has to be halted and labor shortages created to force America’s reserve labor force in the black ghettos to get to work. Only with near full employment, tight borders, and strong policies against slackers/cheaters, is an economy strong enough to finance a generous welfare state.

  91. If he wants to get a bigger share of the black vote in the general, Trump should take a page out of Bill Clinton’s 1992 playbook and promise 300,000 more cops on the streets, with a special emphasis on restoring law and order in the inner cities. Heather MacDonald has documented that this is the number one priority of law-abiding inner city residents, who want to get the gang bangers and drug pushers off the streets and away from their children and grandchildren. Combine that with Trump’s promise to stop illegal immigration and bring back good blue-collar factory jobs from overseas and we might all be surprised by how many African-American voters he attracts. More than 25% maybe?

    • Replies: @EriK
    @Luke Lea

    Interesting and something I could see Trump actually proposing.

  92. If this claim is true, might have to suspend my support for Trump /sarc /maybe

    http://bit.ly/1XiMJih

    • Replies: @iffen
    @DCThrowback

    This is bad. Why would you propagate something like this? Are you a professional dream smasher or what?

    , @reiner Tor
    @DCThrowback

    I was hoping that Trump would establish the death penalty for making well-done steaks. Being a one-issue voter, I'm not aware of any other reasons to support him, so now there's nothing left. Fortunately I'm not American.

    Replies: @iffen, @Reg Cæsar

  93. @EriK
    @Wilkey


    I wouldn’t be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race.
     
    I'm not seeing the DNC, under its titular head Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz, doing any such thing.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    “Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz”

    I think of her as Comrade Ninotchka. Her motto being the “The Party Caucuses have been a great success, there will be fewer (i.e. Goyim) and better Democrats(i.e. Zionists)”. Which is exactly how her boss Commissar Schumer wants it.

    Schultz sees her job as making sure that nobody gets the Democratic nomination unless they are a Jew(Sanders) or under the complete control of the Jewish Lobby (Hillary) and fully support the Ix3 agenda, that is Invade, Invite & Indebt!!!

    It not that Schultz is so much a Blabbermouth, talks too much, as much as she is unable to hold her tongue and not let slip her clear ethnocentric Jewish enthusiasms. Schumer is the much better smarmy two faced liar.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @anonymous-antimarxist


    It not that Schultz is so much a Blabbermouth, talks too much, as much as she is unable to hold her tongue and not let slip her clear ethnocentric Jewish enthusiasms.
     
    It's a Jewish party now. The rest of those people are cannon fodder (blacks, single women) and fools or ethnic sellouts (the SWPL gentiles). It rather successfully represents the interests of the trading and rent seeking classes. Keeps the vote bank going with transfers from men to women and from whites to blacks, while their core class takes a big cut. Ideology: minoritarianism (with special hostility for white-christians); globalism; financial capitalism.

    This wasn't the case not so long ago. When i was a kid, Jewish intellectual influence was obviously (though not to me as a kid) strong , but the Democrats did make some attempt to represent various ethnic chunks of the white working class. (Think Lyndon Johnson's modest upbringing.) And with that they had an interest in American industry, though the Republicans represented America's industrial capitalists. They wanted the factories to hum, and didn't want to see foreign wage competition. It wasn't just about trading and rent-seeking, Wall Street and Washington. But the last Democratic politician i've even seen vaguely tipping their hat in that direction was Dick Gephardt and he was already sort of not with the Democratic party's main current in his first run in '88, and just an anachronism by 2004. And now he's off doing his own rent-seeking.

    But hey, i don't have a problem with Jews running a minoritarian, anti-nationalist, party of rent-seekers. It's a faction. Debbie Wasserman represents its interests reasonably well.

    What pisses me off is the Jews screwing up the *Republican* party, which is supposed to be republican and nationalist--for the nation's people, their industry, their development. Aren't Sheldon Aldeson's interests and passions perfectly well represented by the likes of Chuck Schumer? Demanding that *both* major parties cater to anti-nationalist, minoritarian, traders and rent-seekers ... well that's just rude.

    Replies: @Broski, @Reg Cæsar

  94. @DCThrowback
    If this claim is true, might have to suspend my support for Trump /sarc /maybe

    http://bit.ly/1XiMJih

    Replies: @iffen, @reiner Tor

    This is bad. Why would you propagate something like this? Are you a professional dream smasher or what?

  95. @Steve Sailer
    @Former Darfur

    Nobody seems to count how many people who are part Jewish by ancestry but who don't identify as Jewish. At one point I was keeping a mental list of such people from reading their autobiographies, but it got too long to keep in my head. I recall Colin Powell and Edward O. Wilson as examples I would not have guessed.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Rob McX, @iSteveFan, @Ex-banker

    Are there any estimates on the flip side, that is how many Jews are part non-Jewish by ancestry, but who nevertheless identify as Jewish? There are about 15 million Jews worldwide. What percentage of them have significant amounts, 1/4 or more, of non-Jewish ancestry?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @iSteveFan

    Probably 100%. Maybe a few communities in the middle east managed to stay completely inbred for 2,000 years but I doubt it.

    Replies: @Lot

  96. @whorefinder
    Why hasn't Barack Obama come out for her? She must be miffed at that---her old boss won't endorse her when she needs it. The Affirmative Action president could drum up the black vote merely by showing up at her campaign rallies in SC and voting present.

    In related news, I can't believe these pundits who think Hilary is a good campaigner. She got smoked in 2008 by a non-entity, despite having a bigger warchest, more "boots on the ground", a huger name recognition, and her husband. Now, in 2016, she's getting smoked by a 74 year old crazy commie with a funny accent and wild eyed schemes. She's pretty much the worst "inevitable" candidate ever.

    Her only electoral wins are two senate victories in a state where just winning the dem primary gives you the election. Her celebrity and money worked there to drown out all the other dem poseurs in the first run, while the second win was incumbency.

    This broad ain't a good campaigner, is what I'm saying.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Bill Jones

    The level of cognitive dissonance in anybody who would even consider voting for the corrupt slab of rotting meat Clinton is astonishing.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Bill Jones

    "The level of cognitive dissonance in anybody who would even consider voting for the corrupt slab of rotting meat Clinton is astonishing."

    Hey, you left out the very important point that "the corrupt slab of rotting meat Clinton" is FEMALE.

  97. Just as this post was published, Politico published their wrap up of the NH Democratic primary. Almost in answer to Steve’s question, they predicted:

    Staffing and strategy will be reassessed. The message, which so spectacularly failed in New Hampshire, where she was trailing by 21 points when she appeared before her supporters to concede to Bernie Sanders, is also going to be reworked – with race at the center of it.

    Clinton is set to campaign with the mothers of Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner, unarmed African-Americans who died in incidents involving law enforcement officers and a neighborhood watch representative, respectively. And the campaign, sources said, is expected to push a new focus on systematic racism, criminal justice reform, voting rights and gun violence that will mitigate concerns about her lack of an inspirational message.

    link: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-new-hampshire-african-americans-219039

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @David

    Clinton is set to campaign with the mothers of Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner, unarmed African-Americans who died in incidents involving law enforcement officers and a neighborhood watch representative, respectively.

    Has Hillary figured out some way to get this message to blacks in some way that it escapes notice by whites? Maybe say it in jive like Barbara Billingsley in Airplane or encode it subliminally in Tyler Perry movies. Otherwise, it sounds like a real loser.

  98. @Reg Cæsar
    @NickG



    Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?
     
    That’s Bill’s job!
     
    Come again?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @iffen

    Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?

    That’s Bill’s job!

    Come again?

    I suspect she’s not a moderate anymore. She probably supports Bernie, or she may even be a Republican by now.

    • Replies: @JSM
    @iffen

    EEYEWWWW! Fellas! please!

  99. @iSteveFan
    @Steve Sailer

    Are there any estimates on the flip side, that is how many Jews are part non-Jewish by ancestry, but who nevertheless identify as Jewish? There are about 15 million Jews worldwide. What percentage of them have significant amounts, 1/4 or more, of non-Jewish ancestry?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Probably 100%. Maybe a few communities in the middle east managed to stay completely inbred for 2,000 years but I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @AndrewR

    You probably have to pick an arbitrary date and define self-identified Jews at that point as Jews, and then look at ancestry at that date.

    For example, 23andme's base for Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry are living people who have all four grandparents who identify as Jewish. The average person tested seems to be about 45, so with 30 year generations they set the standard as those born around 1910.

    In the big 1400-1750 period intermarriage was pretty low, but that is about 12 generations, so even at 3%/generation it adds up, and that is on top of the initial intermarriage events with north italian and/or south french populations.

    Likely intermarriage was highest where their population share was lowest and vice versa. There was also some snobbery and cultural distance at play where a German, Baltic, Hungarian or Pole could be an OK match, but not an eastern Slav from a non-noble family. The German, Jewish, and Polish minorities in Kiev all had more in common with each other than with the majority Ukrainians.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  100. @Luke Lea
    If he wants to get a bigger share of the black vote in the general, Trump should take a page out of Bill Clinton's 1992 playbook and promise 300,000 more cops on the streets, with a special emphasis on restoring law and order in the inner cities. Heather MacDonald has documented that this is the number one priority of law-abiding inner city residents, who want to get the gang bangers and drug pushers off the streets and away from their children and grandchildren. Combine that with Trump's promise to stop illegal immigration and bring back good blue-collar factory jobs from overseas and we might all be surprised by how many African-American voters he attracts. More than 25% maybe?

    Replies: @EriK

    Interesting and something I could see Trump actually proposing.

  101. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @whorefinder


    Her only electoral wins are two senate victories in a state where just winning the dem primary gives you the election.
     
    WRONG!!!!

    Hillary was handed Daniel Patrick Moynihan's senate seat without a fight.

    Remember Moynihan was opposed to the first Gulf War and would have been opposed to the post 9/11 Iraq Invasion. The severely alcoholic Moynihan was conned into believing by Slick Willy that Hillary would continue on in his legacy.

    In reality Hillary was always the favorite of the pro-war Zionist wing, think the New Republic's Crazy Marty Peretz and Haim Saban crowd of the Democratic party, not to mention the Wall Street Financial and Globalist wings. There was no way in hell Hillary was going to vote against the next Iraq War, nor was she going to be opposed to setting the Middle East ablaze by supporting the overthrow of authoritarian Mid East regimes in favor of the spread of Islamist terror.

    Put Hillary in the White House and she will get us in another mid-east war as sure as if you elected Lindsay Graham.

    Bill Clinton engineered Hillary's move into the senate in much the same way any philandering billionaire avoids divorce court by showering his aging trophy wife with diamond rings and plastic surgery and chairs on the local arts council and charity boards. Meanwhile, the globetrotting Big Dog went on a 15 year international f**kfest.

    Replies: @Jimi

    Daniel Moynihan’s successor was supposed to be Congresswomen Nita Lowey, a Jew born and raised in the Bronx. She was forced out of the race when Hillary Clinton decided to run for the senate seat. So much for “women helping other women.”

    In return for not challenging Hillary publicly Nita Lowey was made chairwoman of the DCCC and made the ranking Democrat on the powerful House Appropriations Committee.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Jimi

    You are right. But it is only a detail.

    Mainpoint is Hillary has never been a success at Democratic primary politics. She has been anointed.


    Lowey strongly considered running for the United States Senate in 2000, but stepped aside when First Lady of the United States Hillary Rodham Clinton announced her candidacy. Lowey was considered a top contender for appointment to Clinton's Senate seat after Clinton was nominated to be Secretary of State, but in a December 1, 2008 phone interview with the Associated Press, she stated that she isn't interested in giving up her senior seat on the House Appropriations Committee.

     

    But like I said Moynihan thought Hillary would follow his non interventionist Mideast foreign policy stands. I think Moynihan knew that otherwise his seat would go to a pro war Zionist under the firm control of Chuck Schumer like Lowey. Moynihan got conned by the Clintons and also likely thought Al Gore would win in 2000. Hillary from day one wanted to use the senate seat as a stepping stone to the WH and knew she had to knuckle under to the Jewish lobby to do so. Hillary's successor Gillibrand after an initial show of independence got completely browbeaten by Chuck Schumer when she entered the Senate and has been mostly Schumer's Shabbos Goy ever since. Gillibrand had expressed hope of being Biden's running mate in order to get out from under Schumer's thumb.

    Nita Lowey has always been part of the triangulating Zionist wing of the Democratic party. She basically supported the Iraq war but then complained loudly that Dubya's handling of it was making "Israel" less safe. Oy Vey!!!

    Lowey is of course loudly opposed to Obama's Iranian Nuclear Arms deal and would likely vote to support war with Iran. Gillibrand for now supports the Iran arms deal but would likely flip flop if the next President, Democrat or Republican does not. If only Gillibrand could find the sack to tell Schumer to do the anatomically impossible, she might actually show she was worthy of higher office.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nita_Lowey#Iran_deal

  102. @Mark Caplan
    @SFG

    Uruguay has an insignificant Indio population. It's 88 percent European stock.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    So that’s the answer to “Where do white men emigrate to?”

  103. @Wilkey
    The god news for Hillary is that South Carolina's primary is only 3 days before Super Tuesday. The bad news is that Super Tuesday also has a lot of heavily black states - Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and Virginia.

    But they're not as black as South Carolina, which (iirc) after Mississippi is the blackest state in the country. She could avoid trying to pander to blacks in those states and focus on the whiter states, but the problem with that is that Super Tuesday also includes a lot of SWPL states with Dems that probably adore Bernie - Vermont, Minnesota, North Dakota, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Colorado.

    After tonight, after basically tying in Iowa and getting trounced in NH, her campaign may be all but over. I wouldn't be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race. They've got 3 weeks until Super Tuesday. It may very well be, given Hillary's legal problems, that someone has already been planning to jump in, and has been waiting for a moment just like this - "Hillary can't win!" - to do so.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Diversity Heretic, @EriK, @AnotherDad

    After tonight, after basically tying in Iowa and getting trounced in NH, her campaign may be all but over. I wouldn’t be shocked if the DNC tried to push someone else into the race.

    I know weed is legal a lot of places now–including here–but really, you should sober up before commenting on iSteve. (Or at least blame it on that Anonymous guy who’s always saying stupid stuff.)

    • Agree: Das
  104. @Jimi
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Daniel Moynihan's successor was supposed to be Congresswomen Nita Lowey, a Jew born and raised in the Bronx. She was forced out of the race when Hillary Clinton decided to run for the senate seat. So much for "women helping other women."

    In return for not challenging Hillary publicly Nita Lowey was made chairwoman of the DCCC and made the ranking Democrat on the powerful House Appropriations Committee.

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    You are right. But it is only a detail.

    Mainpoint is Hillary has never been a success at Democratic primary politics. She has been anointed.

    Lowey strongly considered running for the United States Senate in 2000, but stepped aside when First Lady of the United States Hillary Rodham Clinton announced her candidacy. Lowey was considered a top contender for appointment to Clinton’s Senate seat after Clinton was nominated to be Secretary of State, but in a December 1, 2008 phone interview with the Associated Press, she stated that she isn’t interested in giving up her senior seat on the House Appropriations Committee.

    But like I said Moynihan thought Hillary would follow his non interventionist Mideast foreign policy stands. I think Moynihan knew that otherwise his seat would go to a pro war Zionist under the firm control of Chuck Schumer like Lowey. Moynihan got conned by the Clintons and also likely thought Al Gore would win in 2000. Hillary from day one wanted to use the senate seat as a stepping stone to the WH and knew she had to knuckle under to the Jewish lobby to do so. Hillary’s successor Gillibrand after an initial show of independence got completely browbeaten by Chuck Schumer when she entered the Senate and has been mostly Schumer’s Shabbos Goy ever since. Gillibrand had expressed hope of being Biden’s running mate in order to get out from under Schumer’s thumb.

    Nita Lowey has always been part of the triangulating Zionist wing of the Democratic party. She basically supported the Iraq war but then complained loudly that Dubya’s handling of it was making “Israel” less safe. Oy Vey!!!

    Lowey is of course loudly opposed to Obama’s Iranian Nuclear Arms deal and would likely vote to support war with Iran. Gillibrand for now supports the Iran arms deal but would likely flip flop if the next President, Democrat or Republican does not. If only Gillibrand could find the sack to tell Schumer to do the anatomically impossible, she might actually show she was worthy of higher office.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nita_Lowey#Iran_deal

  105. @boogerbently
    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
    How has Hillary been pulling this off ?

    Replies: @Broski, @AndrewR, @Stephen R. Diamond, @tbraton, @AnAnon

    “Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.”

    I have been asking the same question for more than 30 years, since it was obvious to me that the initial influx of mass immigration affected mostly the lower paid jobs which meant blacks for the most part. But you know the old expression, don’t you? “First they came for the black jobs, and I said nothing. Then they came for the white jobs, and I noticed some of my neighbors were unemployed, but I said nothing. Then they came for my job, and I determined it was un-American.”

    BTW it’s not just Hillary. A few days ago, I cited the case of Carly Fiorina who was bemoaning the loss of jobs and income for American workers. But she is apparently too dumb or too dishonest to acknowledge the clear connection between mass immigration and loss of jobs for Americans and downward pressure on wages of American workers. Too dumb to understand simple “supply and demand.”

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @tbraton

    She knows like they all do but everybody agrees to play dumb. The Democrats want you to believe that getting that gay and lesbian studies degree will fix the problem and the Republican want you to believe another tax cut for the rich will fix it. Both know they are lying and both have agreed to the charade, kind of like that Benghazi hearing where nobody brought up what the hell was that consulate actually doing so as to avoid discussing the CIA operation.

    Replies: @tbraton, @Reg Cæsar

  106. @Bill Jones
    @whorefinder

    The level of cognitive dissonance in anybody who would even consider voting for the corrupt slab of rotting meat Clinton is astonishing.

    Replies: @tbraton

    “The level of cognitive dissonance in anybody who would even consider voting for the corrupt slab of rotting meat Clinton is astonishing.”

    Hey, you left out the very important point that “the corrupt slab of rotting meat Clinton” is FEMALE.

  107. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @EriK

    "Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz"

    I think of her as Comrade Ninotchka. Her motto being the "The Party Caucuses have been a great success, there will be fewer (i.e. Goyim) and better Democrats(i.e. Zionists)". Which is exactly how her boss Commissar Schumer wants it.

    Schultz sees her job as making sure that nobody gets the Democratic nomination unless they are a Jew(Sanders) or under the complete control of the Jewish Lobby (Hillary) and fully support the Ix3 agenda, that is Invade, Invite & Indebt!!!

    It not that Schultz is so much a Blabbermouth, talks too much, as much as she is unable to hold her tongue and not let slip her clear ethnocentric Jewish enthusiasms. Schumer is the much better smarmy two faced liar.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    It not that Schultz is so much a Blabbermouth, talks too much, as much as she is unable to hold her tongue and not let slip her clear ethnocentric Jewish enthusiasms.

    It’s a Jewish party now. The rest of those people are cannon fodder (blacks, single women) and fools or ethnic sellouts (the SWPL gentiles). It rather successfully represents the interests of the trading and rent seeking classes. Keeps the vote bank going with transfers from men to women and from whites to blacks, while their core class takes a big cut. Ideology: minoritarianism (with special hostility for white-christians); globalism; financial capitalism.

    This wasn’t the case not so long ago. When i was a kid, Jewish intellectual influence was obviously (though not to me as a kid) strong , but the Democrats did make some attempt to represent various ethnic chunks of the white working class. (Think Lyndon Johnson’s modest upbringing.) And with that they had an interest in American industry, though the Republicans represented America’s industrial capitalists. They wanted the factories to hum, and didn’t want to see foreign wage competition. It wasn’t just about trading and rent-seeking, Wall Street and Washington. But the last Democratic politician i’ve even seen vaguely tipping their hat in that direction was Dick Gephardt and he was already sort of not with the Democratic party’s main current in his first run in ’88, and just an anachronism by 2004. And now he’s off doing his own rent-seeking.

    But hey, i don’t have a problem with Jews running a minoritarian, anti-nationalist, party of rent-seekers. It’s a faction. Debbie Wasserman represents its interests reasonably well.

    What pisses me off is the Jews screwing up the *Republican* party, which is supposed to be republican and nationalist–for the nation’s people, their industry, their development. Aren’t Sheldon Aldeson’s interests and passions perfectly well represented by the likes of Chuck Schumer? Demanding that *both* major parties cater to anti-nationalist, minoritarian, traders and rent-seekers … well that’s just rude.

    • Replies: @Broski
    @AnotherDad


    But hey, i don’t have a problem with Jews running a minoritarian, anti-nationalist, party of rent-seekers. It’s a faction. Debbie Wasserman represents its interests reasonably well.
     
    The only problem with Jews looking out for Jewish interests, whether in the Republican or Democrat party, is that the other 98% of citizens are not allowed to talk about it. If Jewish influence was openly talked about, and being a shill for Jewish interests was subject to public criticism, Jewish influence would be halved or quartered (but still much more important than any other 2%'s influence, even probably the top 2% in wealth).

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    It’s a Jewish party now... It rather successfully represents the interests of the trading and rent seeking classes.
     
    How well is Bernard Gutman Glassberg Sander(s) representing the traders and rent-seekers?

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  108. I don’t see any real barrier to Hillary powering on through playing up the black thing. Sanders represents the SWPLy folks a bit better, but that’s not what the Democrats are about. They are about rounding up the fringe coalition in–blacks and women–in service of WaWa, Washington and Wall Street. And Hillary can play the black card better and obviously the woman card better. In fact denying her “the first women” thing is downright unfair and anti-woman!

    And the media will cover and downplay any strident, unhinged nonsense she says in pandering to blacks and of course play up all the stupid, crude and bombastic stuff Trump says–of which he’ll say a lot!

    ~~~
    The interesting thing to me: I’d be embarrassed if i was a Democrat.

    You’ve got an open seat, and yet in all the party all you can come up with to challenge and elderly, strident and unpleasant woman, who is a mediocre campaigner with no discernible positive accomplishments … is some even more elderly socialist from a tiny state. She’s simply entitled because of her husband? Having a … whatever? And there’s no one who can make a better case?

    I’m completely unimpressed by the Republican field–my guy Trump hits the right nationalist notes, but has a raft of behavioral issues–but at least it exists. You had something like five or six governors (most from significant states), plus a couple senators, a couple businessmen and doc all throwing their hats into the ring.

    As far as i can the Democrats have *no* bench. The Clintons have sucked the air out of the room–if it wasn’t about them it shouldn’t exist–for the Democrats for 24 years now. Obama was all about Obama–and stroking black people and letting the right sort of white people stroke themselves (oh look a me, i’m not racist … i’m not racist … oh, oh … OOOOHHH). No development of the party.

    Even if Hillary gets herself elected, people are going to get *really* sick of her quite quickly. She’s shrill and unpleasant–Carrie Nation, with the charm of fingernails on blackboard. In particular, no man who has anything in his pouches is going enjoy being hectored by this bitch. I have to listen to my wife–that’s part of my job. I listened to my mom–smart like Hillary, but with much better political skills, and generally wise and sensible, rather than shrill and annoying–back when she was alive. I listen to my daughters–while trying to guide them toward good decisions befitting their high quality. But generally no guy wants to listen to a woman that’s not his mother, his daughter or someone he’s sleeping with. Men certainly don’t want to be lectured to–much less hectored–by a shrill, unpleasant bitch.

    I think the Hillary presidency is going to be great … for Republicans. It’s likely going to damage the Democratic brand for at least a good part of a generation like Carter. I don’t deny eventually demography will overwhelm us white guys unless we start to battle back. But Hillary will at least provide a wakeup call that wises up some white guys (and gals). I just hope we’ll have some honest nationalists ready to step up and take advantage.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @AnotherDad

    Men certainly don’t want to be lectured to–much less hectored–by a shrill, unpleasant bitch.
    That's doubly true for black and Hispanic men, isn't it? I get how those guys liked Slick Willy, but Hillary?

  109. @DCThrowback
    If this claim is true, might have to suspend my support for Trump /sarc /maybe

    http://bit.ly/1XiMJih

    Replies: @iffen, @reiner Tor

    I was hoping that Trump would establish the death penalty for making well-done steaks. Being a one-issue voter, I’m not aware of any other reasons to support him, so now there’s nothing left. Fortunately I’m not American.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @reiner Tor

    Well, I was all primed to vote for him but this is disconcerting and discouraging information. I can only hope that this is just an isolated defect.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @reiner Tor


    I was hoping that Trump would establish the death penalty for making well-done steaks
     
    Come on, not shaking hands and not eating undercooked meat go, well... hand in hand.
  110. I’ve seen lots of people saying that the Democratic Party is ideologically Jewish dominated and Hilary is the approved pro-Israel candidate. Maybe there is something to that. Over 50% of funding for presidential candidates apparently comes from Jews.

    But she does seem fond of the resolutely anti-Zionist Max Blumenthal:

    http://m.jpost.com/Opinion/No-Holds-Barred-Hillarys-Clintons-troubling-relationship-with-Israel-hating-adviser

    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/blumenthal-person-times/

  111. @reiner Tor
    @DCThrowback

    I was hoping that Trump would establish the death penalty for making well-done steaks. Being a one-issue voter, I'm not aware of any other reasons to support him, so now there's nothing left. Fortunately I'm not American.

    Replies: @iffen, @Reg Cæsar

    Well, I was all primed to vote for him but this is disconcerting and discouraging information. I can only hope that this is just an isolated defect.

  112. @Reg Cæsar
    @tyrone


    bernie should of been kissing...
     
    Sheet! Wheh you be goin' ta skool?

    Replies: @iffen

    So you went to school and did quite well at your lessons.

    All that time spent and the culmination is posting comments like this one.

  113. @AnotherDad
    @anonymous-antimarxist


    It not that Schultz is so much a Blabbermouth, talks too much, as much as she is unable to hold her tongue and not let slip her clear ethnocentric Jewish enthusiasms.
     
    It's a Jewish party now. The rest of those people are cannon fodder (blacks, single women) and fools or ethnic sellouts (the SWPL gentiles). It rather successfully represents the interests of the trading and rent seeking classes. Keeps the vote bank going with transfers from men to women and from whites to blacks, while their core class takes a big cut. Ideology: minoritarianism (with special hostility for white-christians); globalism; financial capitalism.

    This wasn't the case not so long ago. When i was a kid, Jewish intellectual influence was obviously (though not to me as a kid) strong , but the Democrats did make some attempt to represent various ethnic chunks of the white working class. (Think Lyndon Johnson's modest upbringing.) And with that they had an interest in American industry, though the Republicans represented America's industrial capitalists. They wanted the factories to hum, and didn't want to see foreign wage competition. It wasn't just about trading and rent-seeking, Wall Street and Washington. But the last Democratic politician i've even seen vaguely tipping their hat in that direction was Dick Gephardt and he was already sort of not with the Democratic party's main current in his first run in '88, and just an anachronism by 2004. And now he's off doing his own rent-seeking.

    But hey, i don't have a problem with Jews running a minoritarian, anti-nationalist, party of rent-seekers. It's a faction. Debbie Wasserman represents its interests reasonably well.

    What pisses me off is the Jews screwing up the *Republican* party, which is supposed to be republican and nationalist--for the nation's people, their industry, their development. Aren't Sheldon Aldeson's interests and passions perfectly well represented by the likes of Chuck Schumer? Demanding that *both* major parties cater to anti-nationalist, minoritarian, traders and rent-seekers ... well that's just rude.

    Replies: @Broski, @Reg Cæsar

    But hey, i don’t have a problem with Jews running a minoritarian, anti-nationalist, party of rent-seekers. It’s a faction. Debbie Wasserman represents its interests reasonably well.

    The only problem with Jews looking out for Jewish interests, whether in the Republican or Democrat party, is that the other 98% of citizens are not allowed to talk about it. If Jewish influence was openly talked about, and being a shill for Jewish interests was subject to public criticism, Jewish influence would be halved or quartered (but still much more important than any other 2%’s influence, even probably the top 2% in wealth).

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Broski

    They can't talk about it because Jews are looking out for Jewish interests. (To put it very crudely.)

    From an HBD standpoint (I'm currently agnostic on the premises), it seems to be that one reason Jews are feared (I think that's the right word, although there's also some loathing) is that they (or we, speaking of myself racially) have the clannishness of an East Eurpean combined with intelligence greater than an Englishman. A scary combination.

    Replies: @BB753

  114. ‘JTA’ reports that as much as 2/3 of Democratic money comes from Jewish donors

    ***

    I recall Colin Powell and Edward O. Wilson as examples I would not have guessed.

    I’m sure being willing to announce one’s Jewish ancestry doesn’t hurt one’s chances in elite circles. Especially since it only takes the once to make the rounds in the Jewish press, and they’re the only ones (who matter) who are likely to notice.

    Hillary is really unlikeable. Sanders could very well win this.

    Imagine what happens if Hillary gets indicted for violating secrecy laws, or if FBI talking heads start going on Fox and telling the world that anyone else would’ve been indicted for violating secrecy laws. Or better yet, if she gets the nomination first.

    Most Jews truly think they’re good, compassionate people motivated by love. It is only systematic analysis that reveals their animosity toward homogenous host populations, etc.

    Hence the great need for a counter-culture of critique. Especially for a people so lacking in introspection.

    Why hasn’t Barack Obama come out for her? She must be miffed at that—her old boss won’t endorse her when she needs it. The Affirmative Action president could drum up the black vote merely by showing up at her campaign rallies in SC and voting present.

    I figure he just doesn’t like the &!^@#. Others here have speculated that the Hussein Foundation will soon be vying with the Clinton Foundation for the same political and financial territory. That makes perfect sense to me.

    The old line patrician Dixie attitude towards blacks is that they are a potentially dangerous but usually manageable herd of useful beasts, being essentially children in adult bodies, and easily identifiable by their color and features so they are not mistakable for serious people, unlike the cracker whites, who can fool you sometimes.

    The seldom-spoken but well-understood white southern line on blacks is we’re stuck with them and should try and make the best of it.

    “Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.”

    I have been asking the same question for more than 30 years, since it was obvious to me that the initial influx of mass immigration affected mostly the lower paid jobs which meant blacks for the most part.

    Black leadership is bought off to go against blacks’ interests. Black electorate not bright enough to notice. Free $#!^ uber alles. Abstractions about the next generation having it harder means nothing to grasshoppers, that’s ant talk.

  115. @iffen
    @Reg Cæsar

    Can she do that without leaving a bad taste in moderate white mouths come fall?

    That’s Bill’s job!

    Come again?

    I suspect she's not a moderate anymore. She probably supports Bernie, or she may even be a Republican by now.

    Replies: @JSM

    EEYEWWWW! Fellas! please!

  116. @Steve Sailer
    @Former Darfur

    Nobody seems to count how many people who are part Jewish by ancestry but who don't identify as Jewish. At one point I was keeping a mental list of such people from reading their autobiographies, but it got too long to keep in my head. I recall Colin Powell and Edward O. Wilson as examples I would not have guessed.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Rob McX, @iSteveFan, @Ex-banker

    John Kerry. His brother converted (back?) at some point.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Ex-banker

    Kerry is 1/4 Jewish.

  117. @Desiderius
    @Broski

    Being a loser isn't about where you rank, it's where you rank compared to where you should.

    Replies: @Sparkling Wiggle

    Yes, Trump calls people losers who have failed or disgraced their positions: ¡Jeb!, John McCain, etc. It’s a job performance thing, and he truly feels contempt for weak, rent-seeking politicians who devote their lives to crafting a public image but then fall apart in a debate.

    I’ve never heard him direct the term at, say, an unemployed welder.

  118. @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Lots of Jews are totally ignorant about vast swaths of the American population.
     
    Oh, but their gay and SWPL neighbors will clue them in-- many of them are in exile from little flyover burgs. You couldn't pay them enough to go back.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Sparkling Wiggle

    There’s some fodder for a Sailer theory: how much of the leftist elite’s idea of flyover country is shaped by anecdotes from flyover-country misfits and exiles?

    Maybe that’s why they think we all ride around in our pickup trucks lookin’ for queers to bash on a Friday night before headin’ down to the revival meetin’.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Sparkling Wiggle


    There’s some fodder for a Sailer theory: how much of the leftist elite’s idea of flyover country is shaped by anecdotes from flyover-country misfits and exiles?
     
    Roughly 150%

    cf. Colbert.
    , @Bill P
    @Sparkling Wiggle

    I'm from an urban blue-collar family, and what I've noticed about flyover America is that it's culturally a lot more like the cities were back when I was a boy (early 80s) than they are today. The flyover transplants have ruined the cities in my opinion, and I think a big part of that is their idea of what cities should be.

    Actually, I think the leftist elite is largely provincial, and doesn't know a damn thing about running a working city. New Yorkers have traditionally been an exception, but with De Blasio I'm starting to wonder...

    I remember visiting relatives in the country and we'd all listen to the same music and talk about the same things. We'd go there for good produce and to show the kids farms and animals, and the country relatives would come to the city to shop at department stores and visit museums and see plays and the like. Wasn't much of a cultural divide. Going back and forth was considered normal.

  119. @tbraton
    @boogerbently

    "Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites."

    I have been asking the same question for more than 30 years, since it was obvious to me that the initial influx of mass immigration affected mostly the lower paid jobs which meant blacks for the most part. But you know the old expression, don't you? "First they came for the black jobs, and I said nothing. Then they came for the white jobs, and I noticed some of my neighbors were unemployed, but I said nothing. Then they came for my job, and I determined it was un-American."

    BTW it's not just Hillary. A few days ago, I cited the case of Carly Fiorina who was bemoaning the loss of jobs and income for American workers. But she is apparently too dumb or too dishonest to acknowledge the clear connection between mass immigration and loss of jobs for Americans and downward pressure on wages of American workers. Too dumb to understand simple "supply and demand."

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    She knows like they all do but everybody agrees to play dumb. The Democrats want you to believe that getting that gay and lesbian studies degree will fix the problem and the Republican want you to believe another tax cut for the rich will fix it. Both know they are lying and both have agreed to the charade, kind of like that Benghazi hearing where nobody brought up what the hell was that consulate actually doing so as to avoid discussing the CIA operation.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @tbraton
    @MarkinLA

    "She knows like they all do but everybody agrees to play dumb."

    I agree. I was going to rewrite my last sentence to read: "She's too smart not to understand the simple concept of supply and demand, so it must be due to dishonesty." I think it is obvious that Carly Fiorina is a pretty bright and capable woman. Too bad her ideas and values are so bad.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @MarkinLA


    ...the Republican want you to believe another tax cut for the rich will fix it.
     
    There you go again. Picking on those poor, underappreciated Los Angeles longshoremen.

    What next? Taxing Cadillac health plans to pay for Obamacare?

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @tbraton

  120. @rod1963
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Most Republican pols for the last 30 years have been virulently anti-white working and middle-class judging by the policies they have supported. They openly supported job and industry destroying trade agreements like NAFTA, PNTR with China and telling the American worker basically "tough s**t, find another job" while they retire to a life of luxury and mid-six figure consultant contracts after they leave office.

    In regards to immigration, most were and are quite soft on illegal immigration since they are dependent on Chambers of Commerce donors to finance their campaigns. GW Bush tried to ram through amnesty in his last term and push the NAU and was only stopped by the House that still believed in it's duty at the time. Nor did Bush do anything to restrict Muslim immigration to the U.S. and was a big fan of selling critical infrastructure to foreign nations.

    A real rotter and all around traitor.

    Trump compared to this band of sociopathic Ayn Randians/globalists is a saint. Unlike them he actually did something with his life - instead of being a professional parasite like those failed lawyers on Capitol Hill. Guys like Bush, Rubio, Fiorina, Cristy, and Cruz because of what they are, can't relate to the average American worker or displaced ones. Because none of them ever worked a day in their life or bet their own money and built something they can be proud of.

    Outside of Trump none of them even care about the trade deficit, the loss of our manufacturing base, the massive permanent group of white unemployed and watching our country become something out of Idiotocracy and Argentina.

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    the loss of our manufacturing base

    Well Fiorina did her part.

  121. @Ed
    @countenance

    Some of the Jewish pundits on Twitter are miffed that he described himself as the son of Polish immigrants. Is he even a practicing Jew? Is he an atheist?

    https://twitter.com/chemishalev/status/697251939575336961

    Replies: @rvg, @Lagertha, @Harry Baldwin, @ben tillman

    Is it parochial to be irked a bit by Sanders describing himself as the son of “Polish immigrant”?

    Has this guy ever met a Jew who lives among the goyim? Does he even realize other Jews live in galut? That seems to be standard operating procedure for Ashkenazim: I’m Polish/Russian/bla bla bla. In fact, I once got that line from a Jewish woman named Sanders.

  122. @ChrisZ
    @celt darnell

    Apropos your interest in how the media will report the results of a Clinton loss: I just clicked onto the MSN website and here's how its top story photo montage box looks:

    Under a general header reading "New Hampshire Primary," the lead place--taking up the entire left-hand half of the montage--is a shot of Bill C. kissing an ecstatic-looking Hillary (on the cheek, of course) with the headline "Winners and losers from New Hampshire," via the Washington Post. From the pic, you'd think Hollary [sic] was the winner.

    Occupying less that a quarter of the montage in the upper right is a horizontal, dimly-lit shot of Trump with the headline (which dominates the pic) "Trump rout plunges GOP into chaos," from The Hill.

    The remaining space in the lower right is a blurry shot of the audience at the Sanders rally, with Bernie barely distinguishable amid the sea of white faces (!) with the revealing headline, "After win, Sanders faces a new test," via USA Today.

    I wonder whether that constitutes a donation to the Clinton Foundation?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Well, Hillary did win the most delegates in NH–15 to Sanders’ 13. Funny how that worked.

  123. @David
    Just as this post was published, Politico published their wrap up of the NH Democratic primary. Almost in answer to Steve's question, they predicted:

    Staffing and strategy will be reassessed. The message, which so spectacularly failed in New Hampshire, where she was trailing by 21 points when she appeared before her supporters to concede to Bernie Sanders, is also going to be reworked – with race at the center of it.

    Clinton is set to campaign with the mothers of Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner, unarmed African-Americans who died in incidents involving law enforcement officers and a neighborhood watch representative, respectively. And the campaign, sources said, is expected to push a new focus on systematic racism, criminal justice reform, voting rights and gun violence that will mitigate concerns about her lack of an inspirational message.

     

    link: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-new-hampshire-african-americans-219039

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Clinton is set to campaign with the mothers of Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner, unarmed African-Americans who died in incidents involving law enforcement officers and a neighborhood watch representative, respectively.

    Has Hillary figured out some way to get this message to blacks in some way that it escapes notice by whites? Maybe say it in jive like Barbara Billingsley in Airplane or encode it subliminally in Tyler Perry movies. Otherwise, it sounds like a real loser.

  124. @AnotherDad
    I don't see any real barrier to Hillary powering on through playing up the black thing. Sanders represents the SWPLy folks a bit better, but that's not what the Democrats are about. They are about rounding up the fringe coalition in--blacks and women--in service of WaWa, Washington and Wall Street. And Hillary can play the black card better and obviously the woman card better. In fact denying her "the first women" thing is downright unfair and anti-woman!

    And the media will cover and downplay any strident, unhinged nonsense she says in pandering to blacks and of course play up all the stupid, crude and bombastic stuff Trump says--of which he'll say a lot!

    ~~~
    The interesting thing to me: I'd be embarrassed if i was a Democrat.

    You've got an open seat, and yet in all the party all you can come up with to challenge and elderly, strident and unpleasant woman, who is a mediocre campaigner with no discernible positive accomplishments ... is some even more elderly socialist from a tiny state. She's simply entitled because of her husband? Having a ... whatever? And there's no one who can make a better case?

    I'm completely unimpressed by the Republican field--my guy Trump hits the right nationalist notes, but has a raft of behavioral issues--but at least it exists. You had something like five or six governors (most from significant states), plus a couple senators, a couple businessmen and doc all throwing their hats into the ring.

    As far as i can the Democrats have *no* bench. The Clintons have sucked the air out of the room--if it wasn't about them it shouldn't exist--for the Democrats for 24 years now. Obama was all about Obama--and stroking black people and letting the right sort of white people stroke themselves (oh look a me, i'm not racist ... i'm not racist ... oh, oh ... OOOOHHH). No development of the party.

    Even if Hillary gets herself elected, people are going to get *really* sick of her quite quickly. She's shrill and unpleasant--Carrie Nation, with the charm of fingernails on blackboard. In particular, no man who has anything in his pouches is going enjoy being hectored by this bitch. I have to listen to my wife--that's part of my job. I listened to my mom--smart like Hillary, but with much better political skills, and generally wise and sensible, rather than shrill and annoying--back when she was alive. I listen to my daughters--while trying to guide them toward good decisions befitting their high quality. But generally no guy wants to listen to a woman that's not his mother, his daughter or someone he's sleeping with. Men certainly don't want to be lectured to--much less hectored--by a shrill, unpleasant bitch.

    I think the Hillary presidency is going to be great ... for Republicans. It's likely going to damage the Democratic brand for at least a good part of a generation like Carter. I don't deny eventually demography will overwhelm us white guys unless we start to battle back. But Hillary will at least provide a wakeup call that wises up some white guys (and gals). I just hope we'll have some honest nationalists ready to step up and take advantage.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Men certainly don’t want to be lectured to–much less hectored–by a shrill, unpleasant bitch.
    That’s doubly true for black and Hispanic men, isn’t it? I get how those guys liked Slick Willy, but Hillary?

  125. @Lugash
    (Sanders is meeting with Al Sharpton tomorrow morning, so he’s upping the ante.)

    I've always wondered how these Al&Sharpton meetings go. Do they get down to brass tacks and give a specific dollar amount for support? Or do they obfuscate what they're looking for?

    Replies: @iffen, @ben tillman

    I’ve always wondered how these Al&Sharpton meetings go. Do they get down to brass tacks and give a specific dollar amount for support?

    And can Stephen Pagones serve his writ of garnishment in time?

  126. @MarkinLA
    @tbraton

    She knows like they all do but everybody agrees to play dumb. The Democrats want you to believe that getting that gay and lesbian studies degree will fix the problem and the Republican want you to believe another tax cut for the rich will fix it. Both know they are lying and both have agreed to the charade, kind of like that Benghazi hearing where nobody brought up what the hell was that consulate actually doing so as to avoid discussing the CIA operation.

    Replies: @tbraton, @Reg Cæsar

    “She knows like they all do but everybody agrees to play dumb.”

    I agree. I was going to rewrite my last sentence to read: “She’s too smart not to understand the simple concept of supply and demand, so it must be due to dishonesty.” I think it is obvious that Carly Fiorina is a pretty bright and capable woman. Too bad her ideas and values are so bad.

  127. @Sparkling Wiggle
    @Reg Cæsar

    There's some fodder for a Sailer theory: how much of the leftist elite's idea of flyover country is shaped by anecdotes from flyover-country misfits and exiles?

    Maybe that's why they think we all ride around in our pickup trucks lookin' for queers to bash on a Friday night before headin' down to the revival meetin'.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Bill P

    There’s some fodder for a Sailer theory: how much of the leftist elite’s idea of flyover country is shaped by anecdotes from flyover-country misfits and exiles?

    Roughly 150%

    cf. Colbert.

  128. @Broski
    @AnotherDad


    But hey, i don’t have a problem with Jews running a minoritarian, anti-nationalist, party of rent-seekers. It’s a faction. Debbie Wasserman represents its interests reasonably well.
     
    The only problem with Jews looking out for Jewish interests, whether in the Republican or Democrat party, is that the other 98% of citizens are not allowed to talk about it. If Jewish influence was openly talked about, and being a shill for Jewish interests was subject to public criticism, Jewish influence would be halved or quartered (but still much more important than any other 2%'s influence, even probably the top 2% in wealth).

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    They can’t talk about it because Jews are looking out for Jewish interests. (To put it very crudely.)

    From an HBD standpoint (I’m currently agnostic on the premises), it seems to be that one reason Jews are feared (I think that’s the right word, although there’s also some loathing) is that they (or we, speaking of myself racially) have the clannishness of an East Eurpean combined with intelligence greater than an Englishman. A scary combination.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Make it the clannishness of a Middle- eastern population (take your pick) and the intelligence of Germans, though Englishmen have greater verbal intelligence, much like Jews. ( Yeah, I know Ashkenazis haven't much if any German blood)
    Though, to be fair, Jews aren't clannish in the sense of having loyalty to their clan, Arab -style, but rather ethnocentric, loyal to the tribe. Less inbreeding shows.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

  129. Speaking of South Carolina, the next destination, I was intrigued by a comment Trump made in his speech last night (which got high marks from Karl Rove tonight on Fox) about the ground game in NH which helped secure the big victory. Apparently his solution to the lack of a ground game was to enlist the services of his family, each of whom he thanked, before muttering something like “we found out all about the ground game.” So it appears that NH was a learning experience necessitated by his second place finish in Iowa. Well, I was listening to the Hannity show tonight on Fox, and one of his guests was Roger Stone, who had been fired by Trump many months ago but who had remained on good terms with Trump (I suspect that he may be secretly working for Trump). Stone was talking about Trump’s ground game in SC and said his team was comprised of acolytes of the late Lee Atwater of SC, who had helped elect George HW Bush in 1988. Stone said they were all top professionals and expressed confidence that Trump’s campaign in SC will match or exceed that of his other competitors. Plus the polls in SC have been showing Trump with a substantial lead for many months now. Next debate is in SC next Tuesday, 2/16, with the primary on Saturday, 2/20, winner take all, unlike Iowa and NH.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @tbraton

    I also suspect that Roger Stone is secretly still being employed by Trump.

    Replies: @tbraton

    , @Brutusale
    @tbraton

    Using staff brought up under the Atwater banner instead of GOP idiots like Rove is another point in Trump's favor.

    Replies: @tbraton

  130. @Sparkling Wiggle
    @Reg Cæsar

    There's some fodder for a Sailer theory: how much of the leftist elite's idea of flyover country is shaped by anecdotes from flyover-country misfits and exiles?

    Maybe that's why they think we all ride around in our pickup trucks lookin' for queers to bash on a Friday night before headin' down to the revival meetin'.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Bill P

    I’m from an urban blue-collar family, and what I’ve noticed about flyover America is that it’s culturally a lot more like the cities were back when I was a boy (early 80s) than they are today. The flyover transplants have ruined the cities in my opinion, and I think a big part of that is their idea of what cities should be.

    Actually, I think the leftist elite is largely provincial, and doesn’t know a damn thing about running a working city. New Yorkers have traditionally been an exception, but with De Blasio I’m starting to wonder…

    I remember visiting relatives in the country and we’d all listen to the same music and talk about the same things. We’d go there for good produce and to show the kids farms and animals, and the country relatives would come to the city to shop at department stores and visit museums and see plays and the like. Wasn’t much of a cultural divide. Going back and forth was considered normal.

  131. @reiner Tor
    @DCThrowback

    I was hoping that Trump would establish the death penalty for making well-done steaks. Being a one-issue voter, I'm not aware of any other reasons to support him, so now there's nothing left. Fortunately I'm not American.

    Replies: @iffen, @Reg Cæsar

    I was hoping that Trump would establish the death penalty for making well-done steaks

    Come on, not shaking hands and not eating undercooked meat go, well… hand in hand.

  132. @Bu'bha al-Teksani
    @Bert

    Wrong. The water is just fine, the food is pretty great, wine is nice, the Uruguayos are eminently civil and friendly folks, the kids are cute as hell, all done up in smocks like French schoolchildren, street dogs are not starving and not ferocious -- it reminds of small-town America in the 50s with a Latin overlay. It's a splendid little country.

    Replies: @Joe Sweet

    “Bu’bha al-Teksani”

    Ha! Great handle.

    It brings to mind something that occurred to me in 2004 when reflecting on the disaster of W’s wars: that it’s possible that “yee-ha!” is derived from “jihad”.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Joe Sweet

    "Ha! Great handle."

    You hit on the main reason I read Sailer's blog, the rich, imaginative and often hilarious screen names employed by the people who post comments under his blogs, often more entertaining than the comments themselves. Maybe somebody should write a book compiling all those names. After all, back in the 70's, somebody made a fortune convincing a lot of Americans to buy a "pet rock."

  133. @tbraton
    Speaking of South Carolina, the next destination, I was intrigued by a comment Trump made in his speech last night (which got high marks from Karl Rove tonight on Fox) about the ground game in NH which helped secure the big victory. Apparently his solution to the lack of a ground game was to enlist the services of his family, each of whom he thanked, before muttering something like "we found out all about the ground game." So it appears that NH was a learning experience necessitated by his second place finish in Iowa. Well, I was listening to the Hannity show tonight on Fox, and one of his guests was Roger Stone, who had been fired by Trump many months ago but who had remained on good terms with Trump (I suspect that he may be secretly working for Trump). Stone was talking about Trump's ground game in SC and said his team was comprised of acolytes of the late Lee Atwater of SC, who had helped elect George HW Bush in 1988. Stone said they were all top professionals and expressed confidence that Trump's campaign in SC will match or exceed that of his other competitors. Plus the polls in SC have been showing Trump with a substantial lead for many months now. Next debate is in SC next Tuesday, 2/16, with the primary on Saturday, 2/20, winner take all, unlike Iowa and NH.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Brutusale

    I also suspect that Roger Stone is secretly still being employed by Trump.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Good to see someone else think the same way. I base my suspicion on (1) the fact that the "firing" of Roger Stone was rather mysterious and not well-explained (or I wasn't paying close enough attention), (2) they went out of their way to emphasize how friendly the split was and how Roger Stone still supported Trump's campaign, (3) every time you turned around you would see Roger Stone on TV saying good things about Donald Trump and (4) Roger Stone seemed awfully familiar with the details of Trump's organization in SC the other night for a fellow who had been fired by Trump. I would add that Roger Stone impresses me as a pretty sharp operator and his services would have been sought out by another campaign, but he continues to exist as the "fired" consultant to Donald Trump. Something doesn't add up.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  134. @MarkinLA
    @tbraton

    She knows like they all do but everybody agrees to play dumb. The Democrats want you to believe that getting that gay and lesbian studies degree will fix the problem and the Republican want you to believe another tax cut for the rich will fix it. Both know they are lying and both have agreed to the charade, kind of like that Benghazi hearing where nobody brought up what the hell was that consulate actually doing so as to avoid discussing the CIA operation.

    Replies: @tbraton, @Reg Cæsar

    …the Republican want you to believe another tax cut for the rich will fix it.

    There you go again. Picking on those poor, underappreciated Los Angeles longshoremen.

    What next? Taxing Cadillac health plans to pay for Obamacare?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @Reg Cæsar

    Longshoremen jobs have disappeared by the boatload since the days of manually loading and unloading ships. The last remaining jobs are paid extremely well just to keep the peace until even those jobs disappear which they will when even the crane operators are computers. I am more worried about the 100K city landscapers (pay, benefits, and pension) who provide nothing of value than the longshoreman who are part of the huge amount of revenue LA and Long Beach get from docking fees.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Don Bob

    , @tbraton
    @Reg Cæsar

    "There you go again. Picking on those poor, underappreciated Los Angeles longshoremen."

    Aren't you overlooking the really well-compensated unionized stagehands of New York City?

  135. @AnotherDad
    @anonymous-antimarxist


    It not that Schultz is so much a Blabbermouth, talks too much, as much as she is unable to hold her tongue and not let slip her clear ethnocentric Jewish enthusiasms.
     
    It's a Jewish party now. The rest of those people are cannon fodder (blacks, single women) and fools or ethnic sellouts (the SWPL gentiles). It rather successfully represents the interests of the trading and rent seeking classes. Keeps the vote bank going with transfers from men to women and from whites to blacks, while their core class takes a big cut. Ideology: minoritarianism (with special hostility for white-christians); globalism; financial capitalism.

    This wasn't the case not so long ago. When i was a kid, Jewish intellectual influence was obviously (though not to me as a kid) strong , but the Democrats did make some attempt to represent various ethnic chunks of the white working class. (Think Lyndon Johnson's modest upbringing.) And with that they had an interest in American industry, though the Republicans represented America's industrial capitalists. They wanted the factories to hum, and didn't want to see foreign wage competition. It wasn't just about trading and rent-seeking, Wall Street and Washington. But the last Democratic politician i've even seen vaguely tipping their hat in that direction was Dick Gephardt and he was already sort of not with the Democratic party's main current in his first run in '88, and just an anachronism by 2004. And now he's off doing his own rent-seeking.

    But hey, i don't have a problem with Jews running a minoritarian, anti-nationalist, party of rent-seekers. It's a faction. Debbie Wasserman represents its interests reasonably well.

    What pisses me off is the Jews screwing up the *Republican* party, which is supposed to be republican and nationalist--for the nation's people, their industry, their development. Aren't Sheldon Aldeson's interests and passions perfectly well represented by the likes of Chuck Schumer? Demanding that *both* major parties cater to anti-nationalist, minoritarian, traders and rent-seekers ... well that's just rude.

    Replies: @Broski, @Reg Cæsar

    It’s a Jewish party now… It rather successfully represents the interests of the trading and rent seeking classes.

    How well is Bernard Gutman Glassberg Sander(s) representing the traders and rent-seekers?

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Is he really going to tax them? Or rather just talk about taxing them and then tax the middle class instead?

    What I noticed in Hungary is that the left is all for highly progressive taxation but with built-in tax evasion provisions for the really rich and journalists. (They made special provisions for selling intellectual property, something which somehow didn't apply to software developers but did apply to journalists. And books and articles etc. written by politicos.)

  136. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    It’s a Jewish party now... It rather successfully represents the interests of the trading and rent seeking classes.
     
    How well is Bernard Gutman Glassberg Sander(s) representing the traders and rent-seekers?

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Is he really going to tax them? Or rather just talk about taxing them and then tax the middle class instead?

    What I noticed in Hungary is that the left is all for highly progressive taxation but with built-in tax evasion provisions for the really rich and journalists. (They made special provisions for selling intellectual property, something which somehow didn’t apply to software developers but did apply to journalists. And books and articles etc. written by politicos.)

  137. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Broski

    They can't talk about it because Jews are looking out for Jewish interests. (To put it very crudely.)

    From an HBD standpoint (I'm currently agnostic on the premises), it seems to be that one reason Jews are feared (I think that's the right word, although there's also some loathing) is that they (or we, speaking of myself racially) have the clannishness of an East Eurpean combined with intelligence greater than an Englishman. A scary combination.

    Replies: @BB753

    Make it the clannishness of a Middle- eastern population (take your pick) and the intelligence of Germans, though Englishmen have greater verbal intelligence, much like Jews. ( Yeah, I know Ashkenazis haven’t much if any German blood)
    Though, to be fair, Jews aren’t clannish in the sense of having loyalty to their clan, Arab -style, but rather ethnocentric, loyal to the tribe. Less inbreeding shows.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @BB753

    I take your point on Englishmen. But I would strongly disagree with the degree of clannishness you attribute to Jews. Perhaps the impression is magnified with ability (including networking ability).

    I see no reason to depart from HBD orthodoxy here. Jews inbreed to a degree corresponding to the embedding populations - mostly E. European. Inbreeding determines clannishness.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  138. @Reg Cæsar
    @MarkinLA


    ...the Republican want you to believe another tax cut for the rich will fix it.
     
    There you go again. Picking on those poor, underappreciated Los Angeles longshoremen.

    What next? Taxing Cadillac health plans to pay for Obamacare?

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @tbraton

    Longshoremen jobs have disappeared by the boatload since the days of manually loading and unloading ships. The last remaining jobs are paid extremely well just to keep the peace until even those jobs disappear which they will when even the crane operators are computers. I am more worried about the 100K city landscapers (pay, benefits, and pension) who provide nothing of value than the longshoreman who are part of the huge amount of revenue LA and Long Beach get from docking fees.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @MarkinLA

    The Port of Los Angeles / Long Beach would be an interesting case study since it's been a hugely successful competitor while following an automation / high pay model. The Port's unions are kind of scary -- Tarantino portrays them as mobbed up in "Reservoir Dogs" -- but maybe that's not wholly a bad thing?

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @MarkinLA

    Joseph Waumbaugh talks about the longshoremen in his latest novel Harbor Nocturne.

  139. @Joe Sweet
    @Bu'bha al-Teksani

    "Bu'bha al-Teksani"

    Ha! Great handle.

    It brings to mind something that occurred to me in 2004 when reflecting on the disaster of W's wars: that it's possible that "yee-ha!" is derived from "jihad".

    Replies: @tbraton

    “Ha! Great handle.”

    You hit on the main reason I read Sailer’s blog, the rich, imaginative and often hilarious screen names employed by the people who post comments under his blogs, often more entertaining than the comments themselves. Maybe somebody should write a book compiling all those names. After all, back in the 70’s, somebody made a fortune convincing a lot of Americans to buy a “pet rock.”

  140. @Former Darfur
    @Steve Sailer

    My neighbors are pretty good examples. The wife resembles Bebe Neuwirth and the husband offhandedly commented that his original family name was an almost exclusively Jewish one, but they are churchgoing Presbyterians and they show absolutely no sign of any awareness of Jewish anything.

    What the odds of them ever being allowed to make aliyah under the Law of Return are I have no idea, but I would guess "not much".

    Replies: @Karl

    >> What the odds of them ever being allowed to make aliyah under the Law of Return are I have no idea, but I would guess “not much”

    If they are persistent, and take counsel from people who know the ropes – and if they themselves LOOK LIKE an asset to a country – they could probably get in. It’s more a matter of persistence than of categorical rules. All the Russian Orthodox and the Catholic Filipinos got in & eventually received papers.

    There is NOT a Saudi style “religious police” here. The State Security Organs are 100% secular, and in fact the Police are heavily-laden with muslim Circassians & Arabic-speaking Druse. It’s a pretty good civil-service job.

    Even the africans (the ones who are smart enough to keep a low profile) usually are here for years and years and years.

    Once you’ve got a kid in the gadna ( it’s basically Jr ROTC) you really cannot be deported. when the kid is drafted – that’s official. When the kid finishes conscript service, there’s your permanent papers.

  141. The South Carolina Republican Party primary is held on February 20th, and is an “open” primary (meaning Democrats, members of other parties, & independents, may all choose to vote in it). The Democratic primary in South Carolina, isn’t being held until February 27th. By voting in the Republican primary, one gives up one’s right to vote in the subsequent Democratic primary ie., you may only vote in one, or the other (and the Republican one is held a week earlier).

    PREDICTION: Donald Trump’s landslide victory in South Carolina, will be bolstered by the unexpected phenomenon of numerous Black voters showing up to pull the lever on his behalf. There are reports this has already happened in New Hampshire’s open primary, but the number of Blacks in the Granite State made it easy to miss. It won’t be missed when it happens in South Carolina.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    "PREDICTION: Donald Trump’s landslide victory in South Carolina, will be bolstered by the unexpected phenomenon of numerous Black voters showing up to pull the lever on his behalf. There are reports this has already happened in New Hampshire’s open primary, but the number of Blacks in the Granite State made it easy to miss. It won’t be missed when it happens in South Carolina."

    I hope you are right. I had the gut feeling that, if Trump was the nominee, he was going to draw more than the normal share of the black vote, but I was thinking in terms of the election in November. Trump has already shattered the molds governing politics in the U.S. in more ways I ever imagined, but, if he succeeds in doing what you say, that will have repercussions beyond swelling Trump's numbers in the SC primary. It will reduce Hillary's totals and increase Bernie's chances. If Bernie succeeds in beating Hillary as a result, that increases the likelihood that Mike Bloomberg will enter the race. I agree with Pat Buchanan that virtually assures a landslide for Trump in November.

  142. @JohnnyWalker123
    @tbraton

    I also suspect that Roger Stone is secretly still being employed by Trump.

    Replies: @tbraton

    Good to see someone else think the same way. I base my suspicion on (1) the fact that the “firing” of Roger Stone was rather mysterious and not well-explained (or I wasn’t paying close enough attention), (2) they went out of their way to emphasize how friendly the split was and how Roger Stone still supported Trump’s campaign, (3) every time you turned around you would see Roger Stone on TV saying good things about Donald Trump and (4) Roger Stone seemed awfully familiar with the details of Trump’s organization in SC the other night for a fellow who had been fired by Trump. I would add that Roger Stone impresses me as a pretty sharp operator and his services would have been sought out by another campaign, but he continues to exist as the “fired” consultant to Donald Trump. Something doesn’t add up.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @tbraton

    What's the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?

    Replies: @tbraton, @Brutusale

  143. @tbraton
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Good to see someone else think the same way. I base my suspicion on (1) the fact that the "firing" of Roger Stone was rather mysterious and not well-explained (or I wasn't paying close enough attention), (2) they went out of their way to emphasize how friendly the split was and how Roger Stone still supported Trump's campaign, (3) every time you turned around you would see Roger Stone on TV saying good things about Donald Trump and (4) Roger Stone seemed awfully familiar with the details of Trump's organization in SC the other night for a fellow who had been fired by Trump. I would add that Roger Stone impresses me as a pretty sharp operator and his services would have been sought out by another campaign, but he continues to exist as the "fired" consultant to Donald Trump. Something doesn't add up.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    What’s the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Steve Sailer

    "What’s the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?"

    What do you take me for, a border collie? I wasn't even aware they had ever met, so my answer is "I haven't a clue." Does that earn me any prizes?

    Replies: @tbraton

    , @Brutusale
    @Steve Sailer

    In case your question wasn't rhetorical:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster

  144. @MarkinLA
    @Reg Cæsar

    Longshoremen jobs have disappeared by the boatload since the days of manually loading and unloading ships. The last remaining jobs are paid extremely well just to keep the peace until even those jobs disappear which they will when even the crane operators are computers. I am more worried about the 100K city landscapers (pay, benefits, and pension) who provide nothing of value than the longshoreman who are part of the huge amount of revenue LA and Long Beach get from docking fees.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Don Bob

    The Port of Los Angeles / Long Beach would be an interesting case study since it’s been a hugely successful competitor while following an automation / high pay model. The Port’s unions are kind of scary — Tarantino portrays them as mobbed up in “Reservoir Dogs” — but maybe that’s not wholly a bad thing?

  145. @Steve Sailer
    @tbraton

    What's the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?

    Replies: @tbraton, @Brutusale

    “What’s the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?”

    What do you take me for, a border collie? I wasn’t even aware they had ever met, so my answer is “I haven’t a clue.” Does that earn me any prizes?

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @tbraton

    “What’s the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?”

    It just dawned on me that you might have been dropping a hint in the form of a question. (I admitted that I wasn't a border collie, so cut me some slack.) I would like to buy a vowel. Would Roger Stone and Roy Cohn have reacted in the same way to Melania? Is that the relationship?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  146. @Reg Cæsar
    @MarkinLA


    ...the Republican want you to believe another tax cut for the rich will fix it.
     
    There you go again. Picking on those poor, underappreciated Los Angeles longshoremen.

    What next? Taxing Cadillac health plans to pay for Obamacare?

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @tbraton

    “There you go again. Picking on those poor, underappreciated Los Angeles longshoremen.”

    Aren’t you overlooking the really well-compensated unionized stagehands of New York City?

  147. @tbraton
    @Steve Sailer

    "What’s the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?"

    What do you take me for, a border collie? I wasn't even aware they had ever met, so my answer is "I haven't a clue." Does that earn me any prizes?

    Replies: @tbraton

    “What’s the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?”

    It just dawned on me that you might have been dropping a hint in the form of a question. (I admitted that I wasn’t a border collie, so cut me some slack.) I would like to buy a vowel. Would Roger Stone and Roy Cohn have reacted in the same way to Melania? Is that the relationship?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @tbraton

    Apparently not.

    Replies: @tbraton

  148. @tbraton
    @tbraton

    “What’s the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?”

    It just dawned on me that you might have been dropping a hint in the form of a question. (I admitted that I wasn't a border collie, so cut me some slack.) I would like to buy a vowel. Would Roger Stone and Roy Cohn have reacted in the same way to Melania? Is that the relationship?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Apparently not.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Steve Sailer

    Like the good border collie I aspire to becoming, I decided to Google Roger Stone and found these hilarious entries on Wikipedia:

    "In the first grade, Stone claims, he broke into politics to further John F. Kennedy's presidential campaign:

    "I remember going through the cafeteria line and telling every kid that Nixon was in favor of school on Saturdays...It was my first political trick".[11]

    When he was a junior and vice president of the student government at a high school in northern Westchester County, New York, he manipulated the ouster of the president and succeeded him. Stone recalled how he ran for election as president for his senior year:

    "[I] built alliances and put all my serious challengers on my ticket. Then I recruited the most unpopular guy in the school to run against me. You think that's mean? No, it's smart."[12]"

    BTW I found that Stone is Catholic, and I know that Cohn was Jewish, so that eliminates a religious connection.

    Replies: @Broski, @tbraton

  149. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    The South Carolina Republican Party primary is held on February 20th, and is an "open" primary (meaning Democrats, members of other parties, & independents, may all choose to vote in it). The Democratic primary in South Carolina, isn't being held until February 27th. By voting in the Republican primary, one gives up one's right to vote in the subsequent Democratic primary ie., you may only vote in one, or the other (and the Republican one is held a week earlier).

    PREDICTION: Donald Trump's landslide victory in South Carolina, will be bolstered by the unexpected phenomenon of numerous Black voters showing up to pull the lever on his behalf. There are reports this has already happened in New Hampshire's open primary, but the number of Blacks in the Granite State made it easy to miss. It won't be missed when it happens in South Carolina.

    Replies: @tbraton

    “PREDICTION: Donald Trump’s landslide victory in South Carolina, will be bolstered by the unexpected phenomenon of numerous Black voters showing up to pull the lever on his behalf. There are reports this has already happened in New Hampshire’s open primary, but the number of Blacks in the Granite State made it easy to miss. It won’t be missed when it happens in South Carolina.”

    I hope you are right. I had the gut feeling that, if Trump was the nominee, he was going to draw more than the normal share of the black vote, but I was thinking in terms of the election in November. Trump has already shattered the molds governing politics in the U.S. in more ways I ever imagined, but, if he succeeds in doing what you say, that will have repercussions beyond swelling Trump’s numbers in the SC primary. It will reduce Hillary’s totals and increase Bernie’s chances. If Bernie succeeds in beating Hillary as a result, that increases the likelihood that Mike Bloomberg will enter the race. I agree with Pat Buchanan that virtually assures a landslide for Trump in November.

  150. @Steve Sailer
    @tbraton

    Apparently not.

    Replies: @tbraton

    Like the good border collie I aspire to becoming, I decided to Google Roger Stone and found these hilarious entries on Wikipedia:

    “In the first grade, Stone claims, he broke into politics to further John F. Kennedy’s presidential campaign:

    “I remember going through the cafeteria line and telling every kid that Nixon was in favor of school on Saturdays…It was my first political trick”.[11]

    When he was a junior and vice president of the student government at a high school in northern Westchester County, New York, he manipulated the ouster of the president and succeeded him. Stone recalled how he ran for election as president for his senior year:

    “[I] built alliances and put all my serious challengers on my ticket. Then I recruited the most unpopular guy in the school to run against me. You think that’s mean? No, it’s smart.”[12]”

    BTW I found that Stone is Catholic, and I know that Cohn was Jewish, so that eliminates a religious connection.

    • Replies: @Broski
    @tbraton

    Finish reading the article:


    Stone said that former McCarthyist Roy Cohn helped him arrange for John B. Anderson to get the nomination of the Liberal Party of New York, a move that would help split the opposition to Reagan in the state. Stone said Cohn gave him a suitcase that Stone avoided opening and, as instructed by Cohn, dropped it off at the office of a lawyer influential in Liberal Party circles. Reagan carried the state with 46 percent of the vote. Speaking after the statute of limitations for bribery had expired, Stone later said, "I paid his law firm. Legal fees. I don't know what he did for the money, but whatever it was, the Liberal party reached its right conclusion out of a matter of principle".[3]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#Career.2C_1980.E2.80.931992
    , @tbraton
    @tbraton

    I found the following on Wikipedia:
    "After Nixon won the 1972 presidential election, Stone worked for the administration in the Office of Economic Opportunity. After Nixon resigned, Stone went to work for Bob Dole, but he was fired after columnist Jack Anderson publicly identified Stone as a Nixon dirty trickster."

    That was my original reaction when I heard of Stone's "firing" by Trump. Trump was trying to avoid any taint to his campaign resulting from Stone's position in the campaign because of his reputation of being "a dirty trickster." That was why I suspected Stone was still working for Trump secretly. Trump needs his valuable services as a savvy political operator but wants to avoid the taint of being associated with a "dirty trickster."

    Then I came across this Wikipedia entry:
    "John Sears recruited Stone to work in Ronald Reagan's presidential campaign in 1979–80, coordinating the Northeast. Stone said that former McCarthyist Roy Cohn helped him arrange for John B. Anderson to get the nomination of the Liberal Party of New York, a move that would help split the opposition to Reagan in the state. Stone said Cohn gave him a suitcase that Stone avoided opening and, as instructed by Cohn, dropped it off at the office of a lawyer influential in Liberal Party circles. Reagan carried the state with 46 percent of the vote. Speaking after the statute of limitations for bribery had expired, Stone later said, "I paid his law firm. Legal fees. I don't know what he did for the money, but whatever it was, the Liberal party reached its right conclusion out of a matter of principle".[3]"

    There it is. I found the bone, just like the good border collie I hope to be.

    An example of his ability:
    "In 1983–84, Stone served as Regional Political Director for the Northeast for Reagan-Bush '84. In addition to his previous portfolio from the 1980 campaign, he was given responsibility for the key swing state of Ohio; Reagan carried every state in Stone's region."

    An explanation of the Lee Atwater connection, which explains his knowledge of Trump's operatives in SC. They are HIS OLD GUYS:
    "With partners Charlie Black and Paul Manafort, he formed Black, Manafort, and Stone,[17][18] a political consulting firm, described as "instrumental in the success of Ronald Reagan's 1984 campaign". Republican political strategist Lee Atwater later joined the firm in 1985, after serving the #2 position on Reagan-Bush '84."

    Oops:
    "In 1996, Stone resigned from a post as a volunteer spokesman in Senator Bob Dole's campaign for president after The National Enquirer wrote that Stone had placed ads and pictures in racy swingers publications and a website seeking sexual partners for himself and his second wife, Nydia Bertrane Stone, whom he married in Las Vegas in the 1992. Stone initially denied the report.[11][12] On the Good Morning America program he said: "An exhaustive investigation now indicates that a domestic employee who I discharged for substance abuse on the second time that we learned that he had a drug problem is the perpetrator who had access to my home, access to my computer, access to my password, access to my postage meter, access to my post-office box key".[11] In a 2008 interview with The New Yorker Stone admitted that the ads were authentic.[26]"

    The Trump connection:
    "Stone was for many years a lobbyist for Donald Trump on behalf of his casino business [24]"

    Replies: @tbraton

  151. @tbraton
    @Steve Sailer

    Like the good border collie I aspire to becoming, I decided to Google Roger Stone and found these hilarious entries on Wikipedia:

    "In the first grade, Stone claims, he broke into politics to further John F. Kennedy's presidential campaign:

    "I remember going through the cafeteria line and telling every kid that Nixon was in favor of school on Saturdays...It was my first political trick".[11]

    When he was a junior and vice president of the student government at a high school in northern Westchester County, New York, he manipulated the ouster of the president and succeeded him. Stone recalled how he ran for election as president for his senior year:

    "[I] built alliances and put all my serious challengers on my ticket. Then I recruited the most unpopular guy in the school to run against me. You think that's mean? No, it's smart."[12]"

    BTW I found that Stone is Catholic, and I know that Cohn was Jewish, so that eliminates a religious connection.

    Replies: @Broski, @tbraton

    Finish reading the article:

    Stone said that former McCarthyist Roy Cohn helped him arrange for John B. Anderson to get the nomination of the Liberal Party of New York, a move that would help split the opposition to Reagan in the state. Stone said Cohn gave him a suitcase that Stone avoided opening and, as instructed by Cohn, dropped it off at the office of a lawyer influential in Liberal Party circles. Reagan carried the state with 46 percent of the vote. Speaking after the statute of limitations for bribery had expired, Stone later said, “I paid his law firm. Legal fees. I don’t know what he did for the money, but whatever it was, the Liberal party reached its right conclusion out of a matter of principle”.[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#Career.2C_1980.E2.80.931992

  152. @tbraton
    @Steve Sailer

    Like the good border collie I aspire to becoming, I decided to Google Roger Stone and found these hilarious entries on Wikipedia:

    "In the first grade, Stone claims, he broke into politics to further John F. Kennedy's presidential campaign:

    "I remember going through the cafeteria line and telling every kid that Nixon was in favor of school on Saturdays...It was my first political trick".[11]

    When he was a junior and vice president of the student government at a high school in northern Westchester County, New York, he manipulated the ouster of the president and succeeded him. Stone recalled how he ran for election as president for his senior year:

    "[I] built alliances and put all my serious challengers on my ticket. Then I recruited the most unpopular guy in the school to run against me. You think that's mean? No, it's smart."[12]"

    BTW I found that Stone is Catholic, and I know that Cohn was Jewish, so that eliminates a religious connection.

    Replies: @Broski, @tbraton

    I found the following on Wikipedia:
    “After Nixon won the 1972 presidential election, Stone worked for the administration in the Office of Economic Opportunity. After Nixon resigned, Stone went to work for Bob Dole, but he was fired after columnist Jack Anderson publicly identified Stone as a Nixon dirty trickster.”

    That was my original reaction when I heard of Stone’s “firing” by Trump. Trump was trying to avoid any taint to his campaign resulting from Stone’s position in the campaign because of his reputation of being “a dirty trickster.” That was why I suspected Stone was still working for Trump secretly. Trump needs his valuable services as a savvy political operator but wants to avoid the taint of being associated with a “dirty trickster.”

    Then I came across this Wikipedia entry:
    “John Sears recruited Stone to work in Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign in 1979–80, coordinating the Northeast. Stone said that former McCarthyist Roy Cohn helped him arrange for John B. Anderson to get the nomination of the Liberal Party of New York, a move that would help split the opposition to Reagan in the state. Stone said Cohn gave him a suitcase that Stone avoided opening and, as instructed by Cohn, dropped it off at the office of a lawyer influential in Liberal Party circles. Reagan carried the state with 46 percent of the vote. Speaking after the statute of limitations for bribery had expired, Stone later said, “I paid his law firm. Legal fees. I don’t know what he did for the money, but whatever it was, the Liberal party reached its right conclusion out of a matter of principle”.[3]”

    There it is. I found the bone, just like the good border collie I hope to be.

    An example of his ability:
    “In 1983–84, Stone served as Regional Political Director for the Northeast for Reagan-Bush ’84. In addition to his previous portfolio from the 1980 campaign, he was given responsibility for the key swing state of Ohio; Reagan carried every state in Stone’s region.”

    An explanation of the Lee Atwater connection, which explains his knowledge of Trump’s operatives in SC. They are HIS OLD GUYS:
    “With partners Charlie Black and Paul Manafort, he formed Black, Manafort, and Stone,[17][18] a political consulting firm, described as “instrumental in the success of Ronald Reagan’s 1984 campaign”. Republican political strategist Lee Atwater later joined the firm in 1985, after serving the #2 position on Reagan-Bush ’84.”

    Oops:
    “In 1996, Stone resigned from a post as a volunteer spokesman in Senator Bob Dole’s campaign for president after The National Enquirer wrote that Stone had placed ads and pictures in racy swingers publications and a website seeking sexual partners for himself and his second wife, Nydia Bertrane Stone, whom he married in Las Vegas in the 1992. Stone initially denied the report.[11][12] On the Good Morning America program he said: “An exhaustive investigation now indicates that a domestic employee who I discharged for substance abuse on the second time that we learned that he had a drug problem is the perpetrator who had access to my home, access to my computer, access to my password, access to my postage meter, access to my post-office box key”.[11] In a 2008 interview with The New Yorker Stone admitted that the ads were authentic.[26]”

    The Trump connection:
    “Stone was for many years a lobbyist for Donald Trump on behalf of his casino business [24]”

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @tbraton

    Now I know who taught Donald Trump all those dirty words which have upset Jeb!!! so much:

    "In January 2008, Stone founded Citizens United Not Timid, an anti-Hillary Clinton 527 group with an intentionally obscene acronym.[33][34]"

  153. @tbraton
    @tbraton

    I found the following on Wikipedia:
    "After Nixon won the 1972 presidential election, Stone worked for the administration in the Office of Economic Opportunity. After Nixon resigned, Stone went to work for Bob Dole, but he was fired after columnist Jack Anderson publicly identified Stone as a Nixon dirty trickster."

    That was my original reaction when I heard of Stone's "firing" by Trump. Trump was trying to avoid any taint to his campaign resulting from Stone's position in the campaign because of his reputation of being "a dirty trickster." That was why I suspected Stone was still working for Trump secretly. Trump needs his valuable services as a savvy political operator but wants to avoid the taint of being associated with a "dirty trickster."

    Then I came across this Wikipedia entry:
    "John Sears recruited Stone to work in Ronald Reagan's presidential campaign in 1979–80, coordinating the Northeast. Stone said that former McCarthyist Roy Cohn helped him arrange for John B. Anderson to get the nomination of the Liberal Party of New York, a move that would help split the opposition to Reagan in the state. Stone said Cohn gave him a suitcase that Stone avoided opening and, as instructed by Cohn, dropped it off at the office of a lawyer influential in Liberal Party circles. Reagan carried the state with 46 percent of the vote. Speaking after the statute of limitations for bribery had expired, Stone later said, "I paid his law firm. Legal fees. I don't know what he did for the money, but whatever it was, the Liberal party reached its right conclusion out of a matter of principle".[3]"

    There it is. I found the bone, just like the good border collie I hope to be.

    An example of his ability:
    "In 1983–84, Stone served as Regional Political Director for the Northeast for Reagan-Bush '84. In addition to his previous portfolio from the 1980 campaign, he was given responsibility for the key swing state of Ohio; Reagan carried every state in Stone's region."

    An explanation of the Lee Atwater connection, which explains his knowledge of Trump's operatives in SC. They are HIS OLD GUYS:
    "With partners Charlie Black and Paul Manafort, he formed Black, Manafort, and Stone,[17][18] a political consulting firm, described as "instrumental in the success of Ronald Reagan's 1984 campaign". Republican political strategist Lee Atwater later joined the firm in 1985, after serving the #2 position on Reagan-Bush '84."

    Oops:
    "In 1996, Stone resigned from a post as a volunteer spokesman in Senator Bob Dole's campaign for president after The National Enquirer wrote that Stone had placed ads and pictures in racy swingers publications and a website seeking sexual partners for himself and his second wife, Nydia Bertrane Stone, whom he married in Las Vegas in the 1992. Stone initially denied the report.[11][12] On the Good Morning America program he said: "An exhaustive investigation now indicates that a domestic employee who I discharged for substance abuse on the second time that we learned that he had a drug problem is the perpetrator who had access to my home, access to my computer, access to my password, access to my postage meter, access to my post-office box key".[11] In a 2008 interview with The New Yorker Stone admitted that the ads were authentic.[26]"

    The Trump connection:
    "Stone was for many years a lobbyist for Donald Trump on behalf of his casino business [24]"

    Replies: @tbraton

    Now I know who taught Donald Trump all those dirty words which have upset Jeb!!! so much:

    “In January 2008, Stone founded Citizens United Not Timid, an anti-Hillary Clinton 527 group with an intentionally obscene acronym.[33][34]”

  154. @boogerbently
    Anyone who supports more immigration does NOT support blacks or lower class whites.
    How has Hillary been pulling this off ?

    Replies: @Broski, @AndrewR, @Stephen R. Diamond, @tbraton, @AnAnon

    in a multicultural democracy you don’t vote your economic or social interests, but in accordance with your race and religion.

  155. @MarkinLA
    @Reg Cæsar

    Longshoremen jobs have disappeared by the boatload since the days of manually loading and unloading ships. The last remaining jobs are paid extremely well just to keep the peace until even those jobs disappear which they will when even the crane operators are computers. I am more worried about the 100K city landscapers (pay, benefits, and pension) who provide nothing of value than the longshoreman who are part of the huge amount of revenue LA and Long Beach get from docking fees.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Don Bob

    Joseph Waumbaugh talks about the longshoremen in his latest novel Harbor Nocturne.

  156. @Anon
    @Bill P

    Sanders is not an obviously Jewish name. It sounds English. I doubt many of Sanders' supporters know that he's Jewish.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Brutusale

    Yet the most visible Jew on television adopted the name for his character.

  157. @Jim Don Bob
    @Reg Cæsar

    Spit it out, why doncha?

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Yeah, well, WE’RE the ones getting schlonged!

  158. @Truth
    @SFG


    Look up their demographics. ;)
     
    Don't have to, they were provided in your article.


    Today, the country has a large Afro-Uruguayan community — about 10 percent of the population is descended from slaves.
     

    Replies: @Brutusale

    It may have been edifying to see that Uruguay and Chile, the two countries identified as the most peaceful and prosperous in Latin America, have those with an African admixture at 4% and 2% respectively.

  159. @tbraton
    Speaking of South Carolina, the next destination, I was intrigued by a comment Trump made in his speech last night (which got high marks from Karl Rove tonight on Fox) about the ground game in NH which helped secure the big victory. Apparently his solution to the lack of a ground game was to enlist the services of his family, each of whom he thanked, before muttering something like "we found out all about the ground game." So it appears that NH was a learning experience necessitated by his second place finish in Iowa. Well, I was listening to the Hannity show tonight on Fox, and one of his guests was Roger Stone, who had been fired by Trump many months ago but who had remained on good terms with Trump (I suspect that he may be secretly working for Trump). Stone was talking about Trump's ground game in SC and said his team was comprised of acolytes of the late Lee Atwater of SC, who had helped elect George HW Bush in 1988. Stone said they were all top professionals and expressed confidence that Trump's campaign in SC will match or exceed that of his other competitors. Plus the polls in SC have been showing Trump with a substantial lead for many months now. Next debate is in SC next Tuesday, 2/16, with the primary on Saturday, 2/20, winner take all, unlike Iowa and NH.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Brutusale

    Using staff brought up under the Atwater banner instead of GOP idiots like Rove is another point in Trump’s favor.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Brutusale

    "Using staff brought up under the Atwater banner instead of GOP idiots like Rove is another point in Trump’s favor."

    If you read anything in my post implying criticism of Lee Atwater, you read it wrong. I thought highly of Lee Atwater. It was a shame he died so young. Had he lived, I'm sure GHWB would have won in 1992 and spared the country 8 years of Clinton. What I found hilarious about Stone's remarks the other night re the ground game in SC was his identifying the current guys working for Trump as "Atwater's acolytes," without mentioning that Atwater worked for him at the time. And, while Atwater got blamed for the "Willie Horton" matter, it was actually Stone who first employed that incident in Bush's 1988 campaign. Stone has used Atwater as a convenient scapegoat several times in his career. BTW I'm not being critical of Stone either, although I can understand why Trump chose to distance himself and his campaign from Stone. Better to get the services and advice of Stone without risking the tarnish from having him identified as part of the campaign. Speaking of Rove, no matter what one thinks of Rove, you have to acknowledge that he is a very knowledgeable political operative.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  160. @Steve Sailer
    @tbraton

    What's the relationship between Roger Stone and the late Roy Cohn?

    Replies: @tbraton, @Brutusale

    In case your question wasn’t rhetorical:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster

  161. @Brutusale
    @tbraton

    Using staff brought up under the Atwater banner instead of GOP idiots like Rove is another point in Trump's favor.

    Replies: @tbraton

    “Using staff brought up under the Atwater banner instead of GOP idiots like Rove is another point in Trump’s favor.”

    If you read anything in my post implying criticism of Lee Atwater, you read it wrong. I thought highly of Lee Atwater. It was a shame he died so young. Had he lived, I’m sure GHWB would have won in 1992 and spared the country 8 years of Clinton. What I found hilarious about Stone’s remarks the other night re the ground game in SC was his identifying the current guys working for Trump as “Atwater’s acolytes,” without mentioning that Atwater worked for him at the time. And, while Atwater got blamed for the “Willie Horton” matter, it was actually Stone who first employed that incident in Bush’s 1988 campaign. Stone has used Atwater as a convenient scapegoat several times in his career. BTW I’m not being critical of Stone either, although I can understand why Trump chose to distance himself and his campaign from Stone. Better to get the services and advice of Stone without risking the tarnish from having him identified as part of the campaign. Speaking of Rove, no matter what one thinks of Rove, you have to acknowledge that he is a very knowledgeable political operative.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @tbraton

    No, I didn't read it as criticism.

    Rove has been good at getting his candidates elected, but his recent petulance about the campaign shows him to be on the wrong side of recent history. He shows signs of coming around now.

    Replies: @tbraton

  162. @Ex-banker
    @Steve Sailer

    John Kerry. His brother converted (back?) at some point.

    Replies: @Lot

    Kerry is 1/4 Jewish.

  163. @AndrewR
    @iSteveFan

    Probably 100%. Maybe a few communities in the middle east managed to stay completely inbred for 2,000 years but I doubt it.

    Replies: @Lot

    You probably have to pick an arbitrary date and define self-identified Jews at that point as Jews, and then look at ancestry at that date.

    For example, 23andme’s base for Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry are living people who have all four grandparents who identify as Jewish. The average person tested seems to be about 45, so with 30 year generations they set the standard as those born around 1910.

    In the big 1400-1750 period intermarriage was pretty low, but that is about 12 generations, so even at 3%/generation it adds up, and that is on top of the initial intermarriage events with north italian and/or south french populations.

    Likely intermarriage was highest where their population share was lowest and vice versa. There was also some snobbery and cultural distance at play where a German, Baltic, Hungarian or Pole could be an OK match, but not an eastern Slav from a non-noble family. The German, Jewish, and Polish minorities in Kiev all had more in common with each other than with the majority Ukrainians.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Lot


    even at 3%/generation it adds up
     
    From what I've read on the topic, it was substantially less than 1%.
  164. Roger Stone is a rare example of a man who is good looking in old age but ugly while young.

    He has a healthy Jack Lalanne air to him now, but was weird looking when he was young.

  165. @BB753
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Make it the clannishness of a Middle- eastern population (take your pick) and the intelligence of Germans, though Englishmen have greater verbal intelligence, much like Jews. ( Yeah, I know Ashkenazis haven't much if any German blood)
    Though, to be fair, Jews aren't clannish in the sense of having loyalty to their clan, Arab -style, but rather ethnocentric, loyal to the tribe. Less inbreeding shows.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    I take your point on Englishmen. But I would strongly disagree with the degree of clannishness you attribute to Jews. Perhaps the impression is magnified with ability (including networking ability).

    I see no reason to depart from HBD orthodoxy here. Jews inbreed to a degree corresponding to the embedding populations – mostly E. European. Inbreeding determines clannishness.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Add to that a highly and explicitly ethnocentric culture, which at least to an extent and in a modified form continues well into secularized families. My guess is that the most persistant part of it is ethnic hatred, for reasons that have more to do with general human psychology and less with specifically Jews. In my experience the hatred of certain gentile groups could persist longer than Jewish ethnocentrism.

    In Hungary there's the interesting phenomenon that pre-WW2 most Jews highly respected the Germans but had more mistrust aimed at gentile Hungarians who were (perhaps accurately?) considered to be more anti-Semitic and less fair minded than Germans. During WW2 most Jews were deported to death camps, the majority of whom did not return, but the Jewry of Budapest was spared of that fate because Regent Horthy stopped deportations (even sending his highly reliable armoured division against gendarms under the control of his own more pro-German government). After Horthy was removed by the Germans in October 1944 and replaced by the Arrow Cross government of Szálasi, tens of thousands of Jews were massacred in Budapest by the newly formed Arrow Cross militias.

    All this means that surviving Hungarian Jews had little direct experience with the Germans and most bad things they personally experienced were done by Hungarians. This coupled with knowledge of the German guilt culture leads to most Jews in Hungary praising Germans (who were, directly or indirectly, responsible for all or at least most Jewish deaths) but criticizing Hungarians. So somehow in terms of attitudes Hungarian Jews are where they were a hundred years ago.

  166. @Lot
    @AndrewR

    You probably have to pick an arbitrary date and define self-identified Jews at that point as Jews, and then look at ancestry at that date.

    For example, 23andme's base for Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry are living people who have all four grandparents who identify as Jewish. The average person tested seems to be about 45, so with 30 year generations they set the standard as those born around 1910.

    In the big 1400-1750 period intermarriage was pretty low, but that is about 12 generations, so even at 3%/generation it adds up, and that is on top of the initial intermarriage events with north italian and/or south french populations.

    Likely intermarriage was highest where their population share was lowest and vice versa. There was also some snobbery and cultural distance at play where a German, Baltic, Hungarian or Pole could be an OK match, but not an eastern Slav from a non-noble family. The German, Jewish, and Polish minorities in Kiev all had more in common with each other than with the majority Ukrainians.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    even at 3%/generation it adds up

    From what I’ve read on the topic, it was substantially less than 1%.

  167. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @BB753

    I take your point on Englishmen. But I would strongly disagree with the degree of clannishness you attribute to Jews. Perhaps the impression is magnified with ability (including networking ability).

    I see no reason to depart from HBD orthodoxy here. Jews inbreed to a degree corresponding to the embedding populations - mostly E. European. Inbreeding determines clannishness.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Add to that a highly and explicitly ethnocentric culture, which at least to an extent and in a modified form continues well into secularized families. My guess is that the most persistant part of it is ethnic hatred, for reasons that have more to do with general human psychology and less with specifically Jews. In my experience the hatred of certain gentile groups could persist longer than Jewish ethnocentrism.

    In Hungary there’s the interesting phenomenon that pre-WW2 most Jews highly respected the Germans but had more mistrust aimed at gentile Hungarians who were (perhaps accurately?) considered to be more anti-Semitic and less fair minded than Germans. During WW2 most Jews were deported to death camps, the majority of whom did not return, but the Jewry of Budapest was spared of that fate because Regent Horthy stopped deportations (even sending his highly reliable armoured division against gendarms under the control of his own more pro-German government). After Horthy was removed by the Germans in October 1944 and replaced by the Arrow Cross government of Szálasi, tens of thousands of Jews were massacred in Budapest by the newly formed Arrow Cross militias.

    All this means that surviving Hungarian Jews had little direct experience with the Germans and most bad things they personally experienced were done by Hungarians. This coupled with knowledge of the German guilt culture leads to most Jews in Hungary praising Germans (who were, directly or indirectly, responsible for all or at least most Jewish deaths) but criticizing Hungarians. So somehow in terms of attitudes Hungarian Jews are where they were a hundred years ago.

  168. @tbraton
    @Brutusale

    "Using staff brought up under the Atwater banner instead of GOP idiots like Rove is another point in Trump’s favor."

    If you read anything in my post implying criticism of Lee Atwater, you read it wrong. I thought highly of Lee Atwater. It was a shame he died so young. Had he lived, I'm sure GHWB would have won in 1992 and spared the country 8 years of Clinton. What I found hilarious about Stone's remarks the other night re the ground game in SC was his identifying the current guys working for Trump as "Atwater's acolytes," without mentioning that Atwater worked for him at the time. And, while Atwater got blamed for the "Willie Horton" matter, it was actually Stone who first employed that incident in Bush's 1988 campaign. Stone has used Atwater as a convenient scapegoat several times in his career. BTW I'm not being critical of Stone either, although I can understand why Trump chose to distance himself and his campaign from Stone. Better to get the services and advice of Stone without risking the tarnish from having him identified as part of the campaign. Speaking of Rove, no matter what one thinks of Rove, you have to acknowledge that he is a very knowledgeable political operative.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    No, I didn’t read it as criticism.

    Rove has been good at getting his candidates elected, but his recent petulance about the campaign shows him to be on the wrong side of recent history. He shows signs of coming around now.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    @Brutusale

    My admiration for Karl Rove only extends to his smarts as a political operative, not to his policy positions. I don't think we are far apart.

  169. I caught Frank Luntz on the Kelly File last night, with another attractive blonde sitting in for Megyn Kelly. Luntz was giving reviews to a handful of TV ads run by the leading campaigns in SC ahead of next Saturday’s primary. (Some of them are running in south Florida.) The second ad he reviewed was a 30-second spot ad just starting to be run by the Trump campaign. Luntz gave it an A+ and a rave review. It featured footage of Trump talking to that audience in Arizona last summer, following the Kate Steinle killing by an illegal alien, but it focused on the young black athlete who had been killed by another illegal alien. The ad showed the slain youth’s dad, Jamiel Shaw, Sr., addressing the audience and embracing Trump. I thought it was very effective when I saw the original footage last summer, and I posted a message on unz.com saying so at the time. I agree with Luntz’s assessment that the 30-second spot is extremely powerful and effective and likely to draw a lot of black voters in SC to voting for Trump in the primary.

    BTW I haven’t been able to locate the message I remember posting last summer, but here is what I posted about three weeks ago, on Jan. 23:

    “I don’t know if you recall, but around the time of the Kate Steinle shooting, Trump held a rally in California or Arizona, and one of the persons who spoke there was the Black father whose son had also been killed by an illegal alien. Apparently, he had sought out the Trump campaign. I remember Trump warmly embracing the father, and I thought that scene must have played well among a substantial part of the Black community. I don’t think that Black father is an isolated case. I think there are many Blacks who are fed up with the whole crime scene. The only question is how many will be voting for Trump. That is the great unknown.” https://www.unz.com/isteve/new-sanders-ad-bernies-fans-are-98-white/#comment-1303974

    I followed up by posting a link I found to an article of Jan. 13 which focused on a black woman in Atlanta who was an outspoken supporter of Trump, which contained the following paragraphs:

    ” “Trump gives me real hope and change, not fake hope and change. I’m voting for America because I believe in America.

    “I never thought I’d be saying these words about the country. Democrats don’t speak about the country but I’ve woken up, I’ve seen the truth and the truth is Trump, I believe in this guy to make our country better because our country is going to hell!

    “My daughter can’t find a job, she’s a college graduate. Black men are 50% unemployed. Our borders are wide open. I love everybody don’t get me wrong, but we have to close our borders.””
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/new-sanders-ad-bernies-fans-are-98-white/#comment-1306636

    I still think Trump has the potential of attracting a substantial block of black voters in the general election.

  170. @Brutusale
    @tbraton

    No, I didn't read it as criticism.

    Rove has been good at getting his candidates elected, but his recent petulance about the campaign shows him to be on the wrong side of recent history. He shows signs of coming around now.

    Replies: @tbraton

    My admiration for Karl Rove only extends to his smarts as a political operative, not to his policy positions. I don’t think we are far apart.

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