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From the NYT:

Citing Family, Hillary Clinton Affirms Gun-Control Stance
By AMY CHOZICK MAY 21, 2016

Hillary Clinton invoked her roles as mother and grandmother on Saturday to deliver an impassioned rebuttal to Donald J. Trump’s contention that her push for stricter gun control would make families less safe, saying the presumptive Republican nominee would put more children “at risk of violence and bigotry.”

“Violence and bigotry?” Has Hillary hired Genius T. Coates as her speechwriter? If she starts talking about “violence against black bodies by NRA members who believe they are white” we’ll know for sure.

The day after Mr. Trump received the endorsement of the National Rifle Association, Mrs. Clinton assailed her probable general election rival as pandering to the group.

“I believe it’s the most powerful lobby in Washington,” Mrs. Clinton said of the N.R.A. at an event in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., to benefit the Trayvon Martin Foundation’s Circle of Mothers. ….

On Saturday, Mrs. Clinton reaffirmed her commitment to both gun control and the overhaul of the criminal justice system, two issues that formed the pillars of her primary campaign and have helped her win broad support among African-Americans.

Mrs. Clinton vowed to end the “schools to prison pipeline” that affects black men. “Something is wrong when so many Americans have reason to believe that our country doesn’t consider their children as precious and worthy of protection as other children because of the color of their skins,” she said.

Mrs. Clinton also restated her promise to “end the era of mass incarceration” and to “rebuild the bonds of trust between law enforcement and communities” — issues that could resonate with voters in Los Angeles, Oakland and other California cities ahead of that state’s June 7 primary.

As I’ve been pointing out forever, the Democrats’ problem with gun control is that they just can’t stop themselves from portraying the gun problem as evil white men shooting innocent black baby bodies.

 
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  1. The obvious riposte to the Hildebeast is, if course, Switzerland.

    By law, every adult Swiss male citizen is obligated to keep a pretty heavy caliber arsenal in his home, yet, (I wonder why?), Switzerland has but a minimal level of gun related homicides.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Anonymous

    But in Switzerland immigrants need to get a license to own a weapon, and citizens of certain countries, including Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Algeria and Albania, are explicitly forbidden from owning weapons. Also every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness. The NRA and the liberals would scream bloody murder if we tried to institute the Swiss system of gun ownership in the US, but it is probably the most commonsensical in the world.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @Chris Mallory, @Psmith, @oh its just me too

    , @BostonTea
    @Anonymous

    Access to guns in Switzerland is exrtremaly easy compared to the rest of the Europe. Even in Cali is harder to get one than in Swiss. Check this out: http://goo.gl/Dg2T1Y

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Anonymous

    A Swiss I know claims that after recent mass shootings in Switzerland, ownership is becoming more restrictive. I don't know if that's true.

    , @Erik L
    @Anonymous

    No African Americans around for the white people to shoot?

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Switzerland has few (if any) blacks...Duh!

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @ua2
    @Anonymous

    The right would be apoplectic if we copied Swiss Firearm laws here.

  2. If you search a popular rap lyrics website for the keyword “choppa” there are over 2700 results. A choppa of course refers to an AK-47. I haven’t read the lyrics, but I’m sure most of them are about insane rednecks gunning down black children, or perhaps about rappers valiantly defending their communities from marauding Klansmen.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @415 reasons

    Why yes!

    "AK" stands for "Anti Klansmen," and '47 refers of course to the year that Jackie Robinson started playing major league baseball.

    The Klan frequently rides white horses through Marilyn and Nick Mosby's 7th District in Baltimore, and they plant the burning crosses in the broken up asphalt of the Bad ZIP Codes.

  3. NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful.

    • Agree: Nico
    • Replies: @Honorary Thief
    @gruff

    If only it were!

    , @athEIst
    @gruff

    +1 LOL

    , @Corvinus
    @gruff

    "NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful."

    Yes, the American Association for Retired People.

    Replies: @neutral, @RadicalCenter

    , @iffen
    @gruff

    Don't worry, the MSM will be all over this. Pants on Fire and Fact Check will have major pieces up before long.

    , @International Jew
    @gruff


    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful.
     
    AIPAC, sure. They're so powerful they couldn't stop Obama from facilitating Iran's plans to nuke Israel. And they're so smart they can't see that importing millions more Muslims into the US will put an end to whatever influence they still have.

    And I'm sick of hearing that we are leading America by the nose -- we 2% -- when fully half of the the 60-70% of America that's white Christian is actively promoting its own national suicide.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @gruff

    , @Olorin
    @gruff

    I figured you meant OPEC. ;D

    Replies: @gruff

  4. From your Baby Gap article:

    Besides, in sparsely populated Republican areas, where police response times are slow and the chances of drilling an innocent bystander are slim, guns make more sense for self-defense than in the cities and suburbs.

    Wherever you happen to be, guns make equal sense for self-defense. If you are in a legally defined “in fear for my life” hostile situation that one can’t escape from, police response times mostly don’t matter, unless one happens to be in line of sight of a nearby witnessing officer. As far as drilling a bystander, most states have laws putting the blame on the criminal whose actions precipitated the event. Cops sometimes shoot bystanders, but that’s no reason to disarm city cops. Both police and armed civilians should train as much as possible.

  5. So Bill’s wife intends to reverse the Clinton legacy? It was about the only good thing he did.

  6. Lot says:

    If you think the Trayvon Martin Foundation was named in bad taste, I present to you Daughters of Assata:

    http://www.assatasdaughters.org/

    “We are Assata’s Daughters”

    Who is Assata? Full name Assata Shakur, born JoAnne Deborah Byron. From wikipedia:

    In May 1973, Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, in which she was accused of killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and grievously assaulting Trooper James Harper.[6] BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur was also killed in the incident, and Shakur was wounded.[6] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[7]

    Shakur was incarcerated in several prisons in the 1970s. She escaped from prison in 1979 and fled to Cuba in 1984 after living as a fugitive for a few years, and received political asylum. She has been living in Cuba ever since. Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified her as a domestic terrorist and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. On May 2, 2013, the FBI added her to the Most Wanted Terrorist List; the first woman to be listed.[8] On the same day, the New Jersey Attorney General offered to match the FBI reward, increasing the total reward for her capture to $2 million.[9]

    • Replies: @Trelane
    @Lot

    What kind of name is Assata? The etymology, its history, the inferences to be drawn, its raison d'être, its meaning. The very name sounds vaguely obscene.

    And who are these daughters? And why don't we have mental hygine laws and a system of State Hospitals to detain and commit these 'daughters' for their own protection and that of others?

    Why were the inmates let out of the mental hospitals in the 1970s? Whose idea was that?

    I have many questions.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    , @bomag
    @Lot

    A couple lines from the link:

    "A necessary space that resists... adultism..."

    "I am an organizer with We Charge Genocide."

    "Building the confidence of young Black girls breaks the cycle of misogynoir that harms their growth in the white supremacist cisheteropatriarchal society we live in today."

    "I am Unapologetically Black Awkward." (Obama?)

    "Good Vibes Coordinator"

    "I love being Black, Queer, Womanish, and Femme."

    "I am in awe of Black Girl Magic"

    "This community fosters revolutionary Black love that is the most powerful force in the universe."

    , @Josh
    @Lot

    How could you not mention that she is tupac's aunt?

    Replies: @Lot

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot

    Hmmmm...
    There doesn't appear to be anyone featured on their website with a real-world skill (scientist, engineer , etc).
    What a bunch of misguided mush-brains.
    America is gone.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Lot

    If you are going to steal from Wikipedia at least take out the endnotes.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Patton
    @Lot

    Assata's Daughters look like a real bunch of peaches. Thank goodness there's someone for a certain segment our daughters to look up to.

  7. The gun control issue, even more than immigration, is a heaven-sent issue for Trump to beat her on.
    After all was it two or three years ago that a couple of Colorado democrats were recalled from office over the issue? I hope the Donald reserves some time at a gun range, and gets some of his lackeys to bring him some back issues of Guns and Ammo so he can just beat her over the head with this.
    The “prison to pipeline” stuff won’t sell as well because it’s been 20 or 25 years since violent crime was a super serious problem in this country. I’ve talked to numerous strait-laced older people who are convinced that hundreds of thousands of people (given some they would not like) are doing long stretches for simple drug possession.
    Oh well. Six months to the election. Hopefully, Trump will still be talking the talk that got him here.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @South Texas GUy

    Trump should tell the NRA, likely in truth, that "I believe in a little more control than you do, but a whole lot less than she does." That would get him the right and the center.

    Also, a racially-tinted carom shot could help. Force Hill, and her black supporters, to come clean about what color those "wrong hands" might be.

    , @Skinnyhoops
    @South Texas GUy

    Yes. Seems like harping on second aamendment rights would play really well for Trump in swing states lie PA and MI.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @Henry Bowman
    @South Texas GUy

    Then again immigration does effect gun control in the sense we have more 3rd worlds flooding the nation and giving the dems more seats/power.

    Replies: @Glaivester

    , @SteveO
    @South Texas GUy


    I hope the Donald reserves some time at a gun range, and gets some of his lackeys to bring him some back issues of Guns and Ammo so he can just beat her over the head with this.
     
    He doesn't need to do that. Assuming that Trump is not a current gun user (I assume he or someone in his entourage is a gun owner), he doesn't have to pretend to be. That would like one of those awkward hunting trips very urbane politicians go on during election season to prove they're regular guys.

    Instead, Trump could do well by doing good, so speak. All he has to do is say, "I don't hunt or target shoot myself, but I believe the Second Amendment absolutely guarantees your right to own firearms. Anyone who reads the Amendment with an open mind instead of seeking ways to vitiate it will agree. In my administration, your right to own a gun will be defended, just as your constitutional right to free speech and the other basic guarantees of our Bill Rights will be."

    Or something like that.

    Such a statement covers everyone who's not a gun-control fanatic; it covers the gun lovers, the gun owners-but-not-lovers and the people like me who are neither but who believe that the Constitution is clear on this matter and must be respected.

    Trump would sound honest, thoughtful and Presidential, which is a good way for him to sound right now.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  8. “I believe it’s the most powerful lobby in Washington”

    Be interesting to have asked her what the competition was for that title.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Excellent rhetoric.

    , @Fidelios Automata
    @Anonymous Nephew

    It can't be AIPAC, because that's not a lobby, it's the shadow government.

  9. OT:

    This NYT article At Warby Parker, a Sense of Exclusion in a Low Price about ‘cheap’ glasses reminds me of Steve’s country club exclusion theory of Jewish projection vexation.

    Ginia Bellafante writes:

    The story of Warby Parker more or less conforms to this narrative: One of the young student-founders lost his glasses on a backpacking trip, discovered that they were too expensive to replace, squinted for months and then, with friends who could relate, built a company in 2010…

    The actual founding (and founders) omitted from Ginia’s article (from Wikipedia):

    The company was founded in 2010 by Neil Blumenthal, Andrew Hunt, David Gilboa, and Jeffrey Raider, and is headquartered in New York City. The name “Warby Parker” derives from two characters that appear in a journal by the Beat Generation writer Jack Kerouac.

    Too bad “Stratton Oakmont” was already taken. Wikipedia:

    The company was started in the Venture Initiation Program of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, where the founders all studied.

    This WASPy-sounding company has been wildly successful. However, there may be some casualties among humble descendants of poor, huddled masses. NYT again:

    Imagine how you would feel, though, if you had been selling eyewear for decades, and your origin story dated not to the era of Malia Obama’s middle-school years but to the period of Ellis Island arrivals and mass emigration from Minsk. Both Moscot and Cohen’s Fashion Optical are New York institutions that began as pushcart businesses, with immigrant founders — Hyman Moscot and Abe Cohen — selling eyeglasses on the Lower East Side of Manhattan in the early 20th century. Their flagship stores are cater-corner from each other on Orchard and Delancey Streets. Moscots and Cohens still run the businesses, and they have been forced to respond to Warby Parker’s Occupy Eyewear agenda.

    I hate it when the ‘little guy’ gets squeezed by snobby Haven Monahans:

    Cohen’s faces the challenge of trying to seem hip as a franchise business with 130 stores.

    Here I agree with Ginia, antifa can go to hell:

    As an aesthetic, antifashion as fashion is annoying and alienating

    Ultimately, it comes down to feelings, nothing more than feelings:

    A store like Cohen’s never makes you feel like a loser. Maybe it should post that outside of every branch, and declare a social victory.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I don't get the snark aimed at Warby Parker. I'm not a customer, but I give the founders credit: They started a hugely successful company, that lowered prices in an industry dominated by one manufacturer ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxottica ), and the donated lots of eyeglasses along the way (they donate one pair for every pair sold). What exactly is your problem with them, that they didn't use the founders' names as the company name?

    Replies: @Glaivester, @Skinnyhoops, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The Warshawski family of Chicago started the J C Whitney catalog, though to their credit (and real Whitneys' relief) they kept their own name in private life. I thought the Warshawski catalog was suspiciously derivative, but apparently that one is the wholesale division.

    I think Eli Whitney would agree that parts may be interchangeable, but people aren't.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Assuming that Errican is saying that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish (her appearance would suggest that, although the name doesn’t sound Jewish to me and I can’t find anything saying that she is Jewish), the point appears to be that she is trying to blame WASPs for intra-Jewish competition.

    Between this and iStevers trying to guess whether Stephen Miller is Jewish there certainly is great difficulty in the alt-right's ability to distinguish whites from an ethnic group that's 'white only when convenient'.

    In truth Jews are not white when it's convenient to cover up the fact they act and think politically more or less the same as gentile liberals, and Jews are white when they're expected to join the pro-white immigration movement the altright/paleoconservatives failed completely to create; an immigration movement that would have been dead in the water if Trump hadn't picked up the issue.

    Now I'm grateful for the Trumpian wildcard appearing out of nowhere to salvage immigration restriction, but if Buchanan and his apologists weren't incompetents we wouldn't have to rely on this hail Mary throw: It helps the Donald isn't wasting time on side distractions like arguing *Chamberlain* was the one who militarily provoked *Hitler*.

    As for the theme of greedy WASPs hostile to immigrants it was actually created by Communist sympathizing progressive WASPs like Upton Sinclair who wanted to assimilate Great Wave immigrants into New Deal progressivism.

    Actual conservative WASPs haven't existed since Coolidge and there has been no serious conflict between Great Wave descended Jews and WASPs (other than some restrictions on Jewish admittance to college and country clubs that were actually designed to keep out German Jews) since the latter have been progressive liberals.

    In reality WASPs and Jews get along fine politically and they intermarry frequently with each other as can be seen by the large number of elite Jewish-Episcopalians like Pinch Sulzberger, John Kerry, Cap Weinberger, and Tom Steyer.

    Now, I do hear complaints from Jews being excluded by WASP country clubs only occasionally. But I've never seen Jews as obsessed with this country club issue as the propaganda here would like to portray.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous

    , @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    In that case, isn't this whole thing an intra-Jewish dispute? In that case, according to my understanding of Steve's POV on these kind of things, the best thing for non-Jews to do is just to buy a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show.

    My favorite optical store in NY was on the 10th floor of an old garment center type building on 34th St. - if you didn't know about it, you would never find it in a million years. The optical shop where they cut the lenses was right there. The guys who ran it totally knew their stuff. The aesthetic of the shop was early rummage sale - chipped formica counters, metal chairs with torn vinyl cushions. I think it started as the place where you could go if your union health care plan offered optical coverage.

    Replies: @Big Bill

  10. @Lot
    If you think the Trayvon Martin Foundation was named in bad taste, I present to you Daughters of Assata:

    http://www.assatasdaughters.org/

    "We are Assata's Daughters"

    Who is Assata? Full name Assata Shakur, born JoAnne Deborah Byron. From wikipedia:

    In May 1973, Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, in which she was accused of killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and grievously assaulting Trooper James Harper.[6] BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur was also killed in the incident, and Shakur was wounded.[6] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[7]

    Shakur was incarcerated in several prisons in the 1970s. She escaped from prison in 1979 and fled to Cuba in 1984 after living as a fugitive for a few years, and received political asylum. She has been living in Cuba ever since. Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified her as a domestic terrorist and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. On May 2, 2013, the FBI added her to the Most Wanted Terrorist List; the first woman to be listed.[8] On the same day, the New Jersey Attorney General offered to match the FBI reward, increasing the total reward for her capture to $2 million.[9]
     

    Replies: @Trelane, @bomag, @Josh, @Anonymous, @ScarletNumber, @Patton

    What kind of name is Assata? The etymology, its history, the inferences to be drawn, its raison d’être, its meaning. The very name sounds vaguely obscene.

    And who are these daughters? And why don’t we have mental hygine laws and a system of State Hospitals to detain and commit these ‘daughters’ for their own protection and that of others?

    Why were the inmates let out of the mental hospitals in the 1970s? Whose idea was that?

    I have many questions.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Trelane

    Her given name was Joann Chesimard. All those crazy African names remind of the "Diff'rent Strokes" episode where the Gary Coleman and Todd Bridges embrace their African heritage by adopting ridiculous-sounding African monikers and then quickly realize it was foolish and silly. Cannot find that episode anywhere on line.

    Any sensible president making a deal with Cuba to end the embargo would demand Chesimard and several other domestic terrorists be turned over ASAP as a condition precedent, and the Castros would have complied in a heartbeat. Thanks, Obama!

    , @Jack D
    @Trelane

    Assata supposedly means (according to Chesimard), "she who struggles" in some unknown African language. Since Chesimard (and her "daughters") seems to be the only person on earth who bears this name, I assume that she just made it up. Prior to the 1960s, black people in America had normal American names but part of the "black power" movement was rejecting all things white - thus dashikis and afros and Kwanzaa (which seems to be fading, thank God) and non-European names. Making up "African" names out of whole cloth is harder than it sounds, especially if you are half educated, so you end up with unintentionally comical names like ASSata and Shitaveous.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Trelane


    Why were the inmates let out of the mental hospitals in the 1970s? Whose idea was that?
     
    It was bipartisan. The left didn't want to lock them up, and the right didn't want to pay for it.
  11. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    OT:

    This NYT article At Warby Parker, a Sense of Exclusion in a Low Price about ‘cheap’ glasses reminds me of Steve’s country club exclusion theory of Jewish projection vexation.

    Ginia Bellafante writes:

    The story of Warby Parker more or less conforms to this narrative: One of the young student-founders lost his glasses on a backpacking trip, discovered that they were too expensive to replace, squinted for months and then, with friends who could relate, built a company in 2010…
     
    The actual founding (and founders) omitted from Ginia’s article (from Wikipedia):

    The company was founded in 2010 by Neil Blumenthal, Andrew Hunt, David Gilboa, and Jeffrey Raider, and is headquartered in New York City. The name "Warby Parker" derives from two characters that appear in a journal by the Beat Generation writer Jack Kerouac.
     
    Too bad “Stratton Oakmont” was already taken. Wikipedia:

    The company was started in the Venture Initiation Program of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, where the founders all studied.
     
    This WASPy-sounding company has been wildly successful. However, there may be some casualties among humble descendants of poor, huddled masses. NYT again:

    Imagine how you would feel, though, if you had been selling eyewear for decades, and your origin story dated not to the era of Malia Obama’s middle-school years but to the period of Ellis Island arrivals and mass emigration from Minsk. Both Moscot and Cohen’s Fashion Optical are New York institutions that began as pushcart businesses, with immigrant founders — Hyman Moscot and Abe Cohen — selling eyeglasses on the Lower East Side of Manhattan in the early 20th century. Their flagship stores are cater-corner from each other on Orchard and Delancey Streets. Moscots and Cohens still run the businesses, and they have been forced to respond to Warby Parker’s Occupy Eyewear agenda.
     
    I hate it when the ‘little guy’ gets squeezed by snobby Haven Monahans:

    Cohen’s faces the challenge of trying to seem hip as a franchise business with 130 stores.
     
    Here I agree with Ginia, antifa can go to hell:

    As an aesthetic, antifashion as fashion is annoying and alienating
     
    Ultimately, it comes down to feelings, nothing more than feelings:

    A store like Cohen’s never makes you feel like a loser. Maybe it should post that outside of every branch, and declare a social victory.
     

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Reg Cæsar, @The Undiscovered Jew, @Jack D

    I don’t get the snark aimed at Warby Parker. I’m not a customer, but I give the founders credit: They started a hugely successful company, that lowered prices in an industry dominated by one manufacturer ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxottica ), and the donated lots of eyeglasses along the way (they donate one pair for every pair sold). What exactly is your problem with them, that they didn’t use the founders’ names as the company name?

    • Replies: @Glaivester
    @Dave Pinsen

    I think Errican's point was that the anger at Warby Parker expressed by Ginia Bellafante is due to the fact that a WASPy-sounding company is outcompeting a Jewish-sounding company (Cohen's Fashion Optical), even though at least one of the company's founders (Neil Blumenthal) is Jewish.

    Assuming that Errican is saying that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish (her appearance would suggest that, although the name doesn't sound Jewish to me and I can't find anything saying that she is Jewish), the point appears to be that she is trying to blame WASPs for intra-Jewish competition.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @patrick

    , @Skinnyhoops
    @Dave Pinsen


    What exactly is your problem with them...?
     
    Warby Parker advertising promotes a clueless, misleading kumbaya view of vibrant diversity and miscgenation.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen

    I have no problem with Warby Parker (all I know of them is what Wikipedia says). I don’t care that “Ralph Lauren” branded himself Ralph Lauren. Reread (if you must) Steve’s “Golf Nazi” post that I linked to. There are undeniable parallels between his observations of intra-Jewish competition and this story. From what I surmise, 3 out of 4 of Warby’s founders are Jewish. It appears that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish. None of that is bad per se, of course. I’m not trying to play Grand Inquisitor.

    You’ve been a commenter for a long time, so you must be familiar with iSteve themes of phantom Haven M’s, Ellis Island schmaltz, and projection/displacement—zeitgeist tics which manifest from time to time (consciously or not) to further a certain Narrative. The NYT article qualifies as a datapoint, and I noticed.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  12. (Partial) Clinton quote from the OP:

    Something is wrong when so many Americans have reason to believe that our country doesn’t consider their children as precious and worthy of protection as other children

    Perhaps she had Martin O’Malley’s “All Lives Matter!” quip in mind. At any rate, according to the Stopped Clock Theory, Clinton must have said something else that was also correct, yesterday. I wonder what it was.

  13. Donald Trump dared Hillary Clinton Sunday to disarm her security detail if she means what she says about gun violence.
    “Hillary said that guns don’t keep you safe,” Trump tweeted. “If she really believes that she should demand that her heavily armed bodyguards quickly disarm!”
    _____
    “It’s the Bataan Death March”–Democratic White House Aide Describes the Hillary Campaign to Maureen Dowd
    _____
    Hillary=chump
    Hillary=loser and watch her lose to Trump. He will throw back any and all crap Hill and senile Bill and her out classed advisors come up with.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Clyde


    Donald Trump dared Hillary Clinton Sunday to disarm her security detail if she means what she says about gun violence.

    “Hillary said that guns don’t keep you safe,” Trump tweeted. “If she really believes that she should demand that her heavily armed bodyguards quickly disarm!”
     

    Finally someone who gets it. Gun control isn't about guns unless the powerful are giving up their guns. Instead, it's about control.

    Leftists -- even the BLMers who imagine cops shooting Black criminals with imounity -- never propose that the government be disarmed.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @RadicalCenter

  14. “because of the color of their skins”

    ??? Is that right? It sounds like she has some hanging on her wall. I think that most people treat “skin” as a mass noun in this context.

  15. @Anonymous
    The obvious riposte to the Hildebeast is, if course, Switzerland.

    By law, every adult Swiss male citizen is obligated to keep a pretty heavy caliber arsenal in his home, yet, (I wonder why?), Switzerland has but a minimal level of gun related homicides.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @BostonTea, @Chrisnonymous, @Erik L, @Anonymous, @ua2

    But in Switzerland immigrants need to get a license to own a weapon, and citizens of certain countries, including Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Algeria and Albania, are explicitly forbidden from owning weapons. Also every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness. The NRA and the liberals would scream bloody murder if we tried to institute the Swiss system of gun ownership in the US, but it is probably the most commonsensical in the world.

    • Agree: gruff
    • Disagree: PV van der Byl
    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Yes, immigrants are required to have licenses. But ordinary citizens get official approval as a matter of course.

    The SIG assault rifles (and ammunition) adult Swiss men keep at home are registered in the sense that the serial number of any issued military rifle is always associated with a particular soldier.

    That sort of registration is obviously not a prelude to confiscation. The registration advocated by "gun control" partisans is, obviously, a prelude to confiscation.

    Replies: @Nico

    , @Chris Mallory
    @Peter Akuleyev

    The NRA supports the restrictions we have on criminals and the mentally ill owning weapons.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @Psmith
    @Peter Akuleyev


    every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness.
     
    At least up until recently:
    -In Switzerland, so-called "permit weapons" are registered in that you need to get a permit to buy them, but each permit is good for three weapons, not just one. Non-permit weapons (bolt action and breech action longarms) are not registered.
    -the US has had restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness (specifically, involuntary commitments) since the Gun Control Act of 1968.
    , @oh its just me too
    @Peter Akuleyev


    and citizens of certain countries, including Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Algeria and Albania, are explicitly forbidden from owning weapons
     
    Wait that's racist! Aren't the swiss banks the ones who looted German jews! ... see we have to ban guns.


    The Davos/globalist elite want above all things guns banned in the few remaining countries where they are still allowed, and probably also, it ties in nicely with pacifying/effemmizing men - ban/discourage hunting, encourage passive jock worship.
  16. @Lot
    If you think the Trayvon Martin Foundation was named in bad taste, I present to you Daughters of Assata:

    http://www.assatasdaughters.org/

    "We are Assata's Daughters"

    Who is Assata? Full name Assata Shakur, born JoAnne Deborah Byron. From wikipedia:

    In May 1973, Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, in which she was accused of killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and grievously assaulting Trooper James Harper.[6] BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur was also killed in the incident, and Shakur was wounded.[6] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[7]

    Shakur was incarcerated in several prisons in the 1970s. She escaped from prison in 1979 and fled to Cuba in 1984 after living as a fugitive for a few years, and received political asylum. She has been living in Cuba ever since. Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified her as a domestic terrorist and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. On May 2, 2013, the FBI added her to the Most Wanted Terrorist List; the first woman to be listed.[8] On the same day, the New Jersey Attorney General offered to match the FBI reward, increasing the total reward for her capture to $2 million.[9]
     

    Replies: @Trelane, @bomag, @Josh, @Anonymous, @ScarletNumber, @Patton

    A couple lines from the link:

    “A necessary space that resists… adultism…”

    “I am an organizer with We Charge Genocide.”

    “Building the confidence of young Black girls breaks the cycle of misogynoir that harms their growth in the white supremacist cisheteropatriarchal society we live in today.”

    “I am Unapologetically Black Awkward.” (Obama?)

    “Good Vibes Coordinator”

    “I love being Black, Queer, Womanish, and Femme.”

    “I am in awe of Black Girl Magic”

    “This community fosters revolutionary Black love that is the most powerful force in the universe.”

  17. So she wants to let more criminal blacks out of jail and deprive whites of the ability to protect themselves. Good luck with that.

    I am thinking more and more that she gets forced out of the race by threat of indictment and that a Biden/Warren ticket runs against Trump. They could win.

  18. @Anonymous
    The obvious riposte to the Hildebeast is, if course, Switzerland.

    By law, every adult Swiss male citizen is obligated to keep a pretty heavy caliber arsenal in his home, yet, (I wonder why?), Switzerland has but a minimal level of gun related homicides.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @BostonTea, @Chrisnonymous, @Erik L, @Anonymous, @ua2

    Access to guns in Switzerland is exrtremaly easy compared to the rest of the Europe. Even in Cali is harder to get one than in Swiss. Check this out: http://goo.gl/Dg2T1Y

  19. @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I don't get the snark aimed at Warby Parker. I'm not a customer, but I give the founders credit: They started a hugely successful company, that lowered prices in an industry dominated by one manufacturer ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxottica ), and the donated lots of eyeglasses along the way (they donate one pair for every pair sold). What exactly is your problem with them, that they didn't use the founders' names as the company name?

    Replies: @Glaivester, @Skinnyhoops, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I think Errican’s point was that the anger at Warby Parker expressed by Ginia Bellafante is due to the fact that a WASPy-sounding company is outcompeting a Jewish-sounding company (Cohen’s Fashion Optical), even though at least one of the company’s founders (Neil Blumenthal) is Jewish.

    Assuming that Errican is saying that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish (her appearance would suggest that, although the name doesn’t sound Jewish to me and I can’t find anything saying that she is Jewish), the point appears to be that she is trying to blame WASPs for intra-Jewish competition.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Glaivester

    Actually all are Jewish or Jewish raised except Hunt. The idea that Bellafante is blaming intra-Jewish competition on Wasp society is just an example of "When the only tool you have is a hammer ,you see every problem as a nail". A much more parsimonious explanation is that Bellafante is a middle aged woman who resents not being hip and stylish anymore. If you have followed her writing at all, it's somewhat surprisingly, conservative and contemptous of virtue signaling about a lot of current "things". She is anti bike sharing program, skeptical of the idea that women are as geeky as men (see her Game of Thrones review and the abuse she got from the SJW types)etc. I don't think she is Jewish btw, although her husband is an english prof at Brown(*see her fairly comical status signaling in this article- http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/author/ginia-bellafante/), That being said, she does look like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    , @patrick
    @Glaivester

    Name sounds Italian to me. I find that Jews and Southern Italians (the majority of Italians in the NYC area) often look alike.

  20. This kind of BS is one of the reasons I abandoned the Democrats in my 20s. No one treats blacks worse than other blacks – whether it is the enormous and constant pressure to conform to a certain way of dress and behavior, the shockingly casual attitude towards sex and childbearing, or the 3rd-world rates of violent crime directed at each other, black culture places roadblocks to success and security in front of its people right out of the gate.

    White liberals like Hilary or Joan Walsh speak as though they have authoritative knowledge about the lives of blacks and the imaginary forces of white supremacy keeping these noble savages down, but in reality their only contact with an ordinary black person is when one of them is holding a door open for them at some fundraiser or clearing away their plates.

    No group has done so much to stoke racial division as the Democratic Party in modern America, because their electoral fortunes depend so much on a sense of grievance and resentment.

  21. Mrs. Clinton vowed to end the “schools to prison pipeline” that affects black men.

    Maybe a “schools to jobs pipeline” could hold promise.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @iffen

    "Mrs. Clinton vowed to end the 'schools to prison pipeline' that affects black men.

    Maybe a 'schools to jobs pipeline' could hold promise."

    I think the threat of a "schools to jobs pipeline" would hold promise of revitalizing the "back to Africa" movement.

    Replies: @iffen

    , @RadicalCenter
    @iffen

    Wouldn't African-American teenagers have to consistently BE in school, be quiet, and actually try to learn, for there to be a "School-to-jobs pipeline" for them?

    Replies: @iffen

  22. @Anonymous Nephew
    “I believe it’s the most powerful lobby in Washington”

    Be interesting to have asked her what the competition was for that title.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Fidelios Automata

    Excellent rhetoric.

  23. Should be the “teenage ‘ho birthing a bastard to prison pipeline”.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Sutton

    Exactly.

  24. @Anonymous
    The obvious riposte to the Hildebeast is, if course, Switzerland.

    By law, every adult Swiss male citizen is obligated to keep a pretty heavy caliber arsenal in his home, yet, (I wonder why?), Switzerland has but a minimal level of gun related homicides.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @BostonTea, @Chrisnonymous, @Erik L, @Anonymous, @ua2

    A Swiss I know claims that after recent mass shootings in Switzerland, ownership is becoming more restrictive. I don’t know if that’s true.

  25. So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Why do we need a free press? Newspaper readership is at historic lows. Owning a newspaper is basically stupid.

    It doesn't matter what you think about these questions, because the Founding Fathers put freedom of the press and the right to bear arms right in the Constitution, ranking them #1 and #2 . So until we repeal the Constitution or "interpret it for our times" into meaninglessness, we are stuck with these rights. Which is just as well, because the Founding Fathers put a lot of thought and study into preventing their future nation from becoming a tyranny and it has worked pretty well for 200+ years so they must have had a pretty good plan. And they thought that both of these rights were very important not for preventing burglars but for preventing tyranny.

    Replies: @Reactionary Utopian

    , @Yak-15
    @Anonymous

    Tiny Duck is confounded by the fact that no majority black city in the world is safe and simultaneously comforted by the fact he does not live in one.

    Priggishly smug and self-assured of his moral superiority, Tiny Duck is so smitten with his virtue that he is incapable of seeing that the racial cohort who does the most harm with guns are blacks. And, against his most fervent of beliefs, they overwhelmingly tend to kill other blacks.

    However, rather than addressing the grim face of reality, the apostle of Africanism sees it righteous to disarm all so that the blacks can stop killing other blacks (and whites). Nevermind such arcane documents that guarantee firearm rights such as the constitution and despite the fact that most gun murders are committed by people who are legally barred from owning guns.

    But virtue signaling does not need to confront the real world. And for that, I propose three huzzahs for Tiny Duck! The religion of progressivism march forth!!!

    , @antipater_1
    @Anonymous

    "Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows."

    If crime really is at historic lows, there is simply no point in banning guns.

    , @Kyle a
    @Anonymous

    Tiny duck rhymes with stupid f%~#

    , @Big Bill
    @Anonymous


    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

     

    Son it isn't just "us guys".

    The reason folks in the ghetto have burglar bars on their doors and windows isn't because they are afraid of being attacked by Mormon Missionaries and Seventh-Day Adventists.

    The reason my black wife's 105 year old widowed granny schoolteacher kept a 12 gauge shotgun behind her back door in Nashville until the year she died wasn't because of insurance salesmen.

    And when granny said, "Who's there?" through that door after dark, you damn well better answer quick and not rattle the door knob trying to get in.

    Way back, three years before granny was even born, Ida B. Wells said "a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in ever black home", and it wasn't because of book salesmen dropping by unexpectedly.

    I just can't figure why spoiled white boys like Tiny Duck are so anxious to get decent elderly black women robbed, raped and murdered.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    Blacks have as much right and considerably more reason to protect themselves with firearms as anyone else. Generally they are not particularly good at it but then again, how good do you have to be?

    Black criminals, like white ones, will always be able to get guns. That's a given.

    I have no desire to disarm blacks in particular. Certainly, felons and crazies should not be allowed to own guns, but they will anyway, and blacks are disproportionately felonious at least.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good
     

    The second part was the Democratic Party's policy for 150 years. The first part, for 200+. Keeps on tickin'.

    Black support for black disarmament is pretty much universal. They know themselves better than we do!

    , @Bill
    @Anonymous


    That is racist
     
    And?
    , @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    Where we live, there are far, far more scary Mexican aggressors than "scary black men." But you keep living in your little outdated bubble and tossing snark bombs over.

    By the way, my own sister drew a gun and deterred two would-be rapists in Albuquerque NM, where she worked for many years.

    Or perhaps the two Mexican men who walked across a large almost-empty parking lot towards a woman who was by herself trying to get into her car, were just going to debate politics with her?

    She would be dead or seriously injured and permanently traumatized if she hadn't had a gun with her that night. When they kept coming closer and ignored her command to get back and leave her alone, she drew the gun and aimed.

    They scattered like the rats they are. (though she has the training and acumen to fight and survive if they had guns or knives)

    I'll explain to her your view that the prospect of using a gun in self-defense is a fantasy. She will be surprised to learn that, I'm sure, as would a lot of other women.

    I doubt you'll read this and the other ample sources (some with names, locations, and reporting newspaper articles for verification), but here's one:

    http://thewellarmedwoman.com/index.php?_route_=women-and-guns/survival-stories

  26. Also every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness.

    Actually, every gun– at least the high-end military-grade ones– is owned by the state. We’ve left the realm of freedom here, and are into compulsion.

    In early America, the big gun issue was slackers. Militia armament was the first “unfounded mandate”. So what Switzerland has is the early American policy, with the addition of gun welfare.

  27. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    OT:

    This NYT article At Warby Parker, a Sense of Exclusion in a Low Price about ‘cheap’ glasses reminds me of Steve’s country club exclusion theory of Jewish projection vexation.

    Ginia Bellafante writes:

    The story of Warby Parker more or less conforms to this narrative: One of the young student-founders lost his glasses on a backpacking trip, discovered that they were too expensive to replace, squinted for months and then, with friends who could relate, built a company in 2010…
     
    The actual founding (and founders) omitted from Ginia’s article (from Wikipedia):

    The company was founded in 2010 by Neil Blumenthal, Andrew Hunt, David Gilboa, and Jeffrey Raider, and is headquartered in New York City. The name "Warby Parker" derives from two characters that appear in a journal by the Beat Generation writer Jack Kerouac.
     
    Too bad “Stratton Oakmont” was already taken. Wikipedia:

    The company was started in the Venture Initiation Program of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, where the founders all studied.
     
    This WASPy-sounding company has been wildly successful. However, there may be some casualties among humble descendants of poor, huddled masses. NYT again:

    Imagine how you would feel, though, if you had been selling eyewear for decades, and your origin story dated not to the era of Malia Obama’s middle-school years but to the period of Ellis Island arrivals and mass emigration from Minsk. Both Moscot and Cohen’s Fashion Optical are New York institutions that began as pushcart businesses, with immigrant founders — Hyman Moscot and Abe Cohen — selling eyeglasses on the Lower East Side of Manhattan in the early 20th century. Their flagship stores are cater-corner from each other on Orchard and Delancey Streets. Moscots and Cohens still run the businesses, and they have been forced to respond to Warby Parker’s Occupy Eyewear agenda.
     
    I hate it when the ‘little guy’ gets squeezed by snobby Haven Monahans:

    Cohen’s faces the challenge of trying to seem hip as a franchise business with 130 stores.
     
    Here I agree with Ginia, antifa can go to hell:

    As an aesthetic, antifashion as fashion is annoying and alienating
     
    Ultimately, it comes down to feelings, nothing more than feelings:

    A store like Cohen’s never makes you feel like a loser. Maybe it should post that outside of every branch, and declare a social victory.
     

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Reg Cæsar, @The Undiscovered Jew, @Jack D

    The Warshawski family of Chicago started the J C Whitney catalog, though to their credit (and real Whitneys’ relief) they kept their own name in private life. I thought the Warshawski catalog was suspiciously derivative, but apparently that one is the wholesale division.

    I think Eli Whitney would agree that parts may be interchangeable, but people aren’t.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    In 1938, the Nazis decreed that all Jewish men had to be named Israel and all Jewish women had to be named Sarah. If your name was say Adolph Mueller, you would henceforth become Israel Adolph Mueller. This way, all Germans would know whenever they were dealing with a Jew.

    Sometimes, I get the feeling that this law would get a lot of support from certain people on this blog.

    Replies: @SFG, @Big Bill

  28. @South Texas GUy
    The gun control issue, even more than immigration, is a heaven-sent issue for Trump to beat her on.
    After all was it two or three years ago that a couple of Colorado democrats were recalled from office over the issue? I hope the Donald reserves some time at a gun range, and gets some of his lackeys to bring him some back issues of Guns and Ammo so he can just beat her over the head with this.
    The "prison to pipeline" stuff won't sell as well because it's been 20 or 25 years since violent crime was a super serious problem in this country. I've talked to numerous strait-laced older people who are convinced that hundreds of thousands of people (given some they would not like) are doing long stretches for simple drug possession.
    Oh well. Six months to the election. Hopefully, Trump will still be talking the talk that got him here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Skinnyhoops, @Henry Bowman, @SteveO

    Trump should tell the NRA, likely in truth, that “I believe in a little more control than you do, but a whole lot less than she does.” That would get him the right and the center.

    Also, a racially-tinted carom shot could help. Force Hill, and her black supporters, to come clean about what color those “wrong hands” might be.

  29. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Anonymous

    But in Switzerland immigrants need to get a license to own a weapon, and citizens of certain countries, including Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Algeria and Albania, are explicitly forbidden from owning weapons. Also every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness. The NRA and the liberals would scream bloody murder if we tried to institute the Swiss system of gun ownership in the US, but it is probably the most commonsensical in the world.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @Chris Mallory, @Psmith, @oh its just me too

    Yes, immigrants are required to have licenses. But ordinary citizens get official approval as a matter of course.

    The SIG assault rifles (and ammunition) adult Swiss men keep at home are registered in the sense that the serial number of any issued military rifle is always associated with a particular soldier.

    That sort of registration is obviously not a prelude to confiscation. The registration advocated by “gun control” partisans is, obviously, a prelude to confiscation.

    • Agree: Nico
    • Replies: @Nico
    @PV van der Byl


    The registration advocated by “gun control” partisans is, obviously, a prelude to confiscation.
     
    What no one ever talks about in France is that the right to bear arms and hunt was limited to the nobility but was expanded to the general citizenry as a constitutional prerogative under the First Republic. It was a constitutional guarantee until the end of the Third Republic, when under prodding of the Nazis the Pétain regime forced the citizens to surrender their weapons. Images of ordinary decent Frenchmen turning their guns in at city hall are lost even to hard-right Frenchmen of today, probably because the American occupiers wanted them to forget it, and Charles de Gaulle - who despite his many admirable qualities was still a grandiose a__hole - did nothing to remind them.
  30. A thinly veiled threat from Hill: If you whites vote for Trump, you will make the blacks angry and violent.

  31. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Anonymous

    But in Switzerland immigrants need to get a license to own a weapon, and citizens of certain countries, including Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Algeria and Albania, are explicitly forbidden from owning weapons. Also every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness. The NRA and the liberals would scream bloody murder if we tried to institute the Swiss system of gun ownership in the US, but it is probably the most commonsensical in the world.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @Chris Mallory, @Psmith, @oh its just me too

    The NRA supports the restrictions we have on criminals and the mentally ill owning weapons.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Chris Mallory

    And the NRA should NOT support a ban on all felons owning firearms. Someone convicted of a non-violent felony that in no way involved the use of force, threatened use of force, physical intimidation, or a weapon, should not lose his Second Amendment rights.

  32. @gruff
    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there's one that's just a leetle more powerful.

    Replies: @Honorary Thief, @athEIst, @Corvinus, @iffen, @International Jew, @Olorin

    If only it were!

  33. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    There’s actually a group called “Trayvon Martin Foundation’s Circle of Mothers”? I wonder how much money they’ve collected. Maybe they could start cutting off the welfare benefits of those leeches who spawn the thugs blighting America today. There needs to be some accountability somewhere, sometime for the behavior of blacks in this country; they can’t just keep saying they’re black and keep getting a free pass for the next hundred years. There is no end to the disgustingness of the Clintons. I’ll sure be glad when the current occupant of the White House is gone. Eight years of homosexuality-worship 24/7 has been more than enough.

  34. “Trayvon Martin Foundation’s Circle of Mothers” snigger.

    I’m imagining Samuel L. Jackson saying “Circle … of … Mothers!”

    Maybe in Tarantino’s next flic?

  35. If Hillary Clinton doesn’t like guns, she should immediately order the armed Secret Service detail that has guarded her 24 hours a day, 356 days a year since 1992 to destroy their weapons and henceforth be unarmed at all times.

    Oh, wait… I forgot!

    Gun control is about disarming stupid, worthless little people like you and me. Important feminist lawyers from Yale who are under investigation by the FBI for mishandling classified material and take $675,000 for a speech at Goldman Sachs and get their daughters $1.5 million no-show jobs at NBC will always have armed protection… because they’re so much better than the rest of us plebes.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  36. “I believe it’s the most powerful lobby in Washington,” Mrs. Clinton said of the N.R.A.

    Not even close.

    Trial lawyer interests spent more money just to re-elect one Senator in one state in one year, a sure thing at that, Kirsten Gillibrand, New York, 2012, than the NRA-PVF did on all Congressional candidates that year.

    • Replies: @Connecticut Famer
    @countenance

    Actually, the most powerful lobby in Washington is the Clinton Lobby.

  37. From your “Baby Gap” essay in 2004:

    What blue-region white liberals actually want is for the government to disarm the dangerous urban minorities that threaten their children’s safety…(snip)…White liberals, angered by white conservatives’ lack of racial solidarity with them…(snip)

    I don’t doubt this is true at least on some level, but I’m trying to work my mind around the political mechanics of this allegation.

    (1) When did urban white liberals ever really care about white racial solidarity in any way? If there were actually any public expression of white racial solidarity, these same urban white liberals would show up in force to protest; they call them “Anti-Fa.”

    (2) I also find it amusing that a white liberal Manhattanite actually is mad that ramshackle white people in West Virginia won’t let the white liberals in Manhattan disarm dangerous blacks in Harlem. Are we supposed to think that Manhattanites think that West Virginians have veto power over New York City gun laws? The Federal judiciary has gotten a lot more pro-2A in the last two decades, but that has barely impacted NYC gun laws, which white liberal Manhattanites still have at their disposal.

    Of course, I say that like I already don’t know the answer, like I don’t already see an analogue at work in my own back yard all the time. If I had a dollar for every time I saw, read, heard, urban officials, politicians, law enforcement, prosecutors, from St. Louis and Kansas City blame outstate voters and politicians for their supposed inability to disarm the thug blacks in their own confines and the supposed lack of laws that give them the legal latitude to do so, I could afford to live in Manhattan. However, urban politicians either directly seek votes in urban areas or work for those that do, and while black thugs hardly every vote, their grandmothers do. Meanwhile, outstate white people don’t get to vote in St. Louis and Kansas City muni elections. Plus, as we all know, there’s a War on Noticing Things. Therefore, instead of telling the truth and naming the Dindu, the Ook, the Africanus Bellcurvius, it’s very easy to blame far way mysterious people.

    • Replies: @Skinnyhoops
    @countenance

    All for disarming dangerous illegal or criminal minorities in a manner that upholds the right of law abiding white citizens to arm themselves to the teeth.

    , @ben tillman
    @countenance


    (1) When did urban white liberals ever really care about white racial solidarity in any way?
     
    Always.

    That's the whole point of calling other Whites racist etc. It's to get them to follow the moral rules of the White community. Non-Whites aren't moral agents, but Whites are, and they/we are expected to follow the rules. That the rules have been dictated by a hostile ethny is beside the point.
  38. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Anonymous

    But in Switzerland immigrants need to get a license to own a weapon, and citizens of certain countries, including Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Algeria and Albania, are explicitly forbidden from owning weapons. Also every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness. The NRA and the liberals would scream bloody murder if we tried to institute the Swiss system of gun ownership in the US, but it is probably the most commonsensical in the world.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @Chris Mallory, @Psmith, @oh its just me too

    every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness.

    At least up until recently:
    -In Switzerland, so-called “permit weapons” are registered in that you need to get a permit to buy them, but each permit is good for three weapons, not just one. Non-permit weapons (bolt action and breech action longarms) are not registered.
    -the US has had restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness (specifically, involuntary commitments) since the Gun Control Act of 1968.

    • Agree: PV van der Byl
  39. “Trayvon Martin Foundation’s Circle of Mothers”

    Hysterical.

  40. OT, but I’m surprised I haven’t seen any mention yet of the rape scandal at Baylor involving the football program. It touches on several themes that come up here, including the campus rape “crisis”, rampant criminality by blacks, college football and institutional cover up. For those who don’t know, Ken Starr is the president of Baylor and is making a fool out of himself lately.

    Lots to see on the web, but here is a good sample of the more recent news
    http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/15191102/baylor-investigate-sex-assault-claim-football-players-more-two-years-lines

    I hope to see Briles, the AD McCaw and Starr ousted by the start of the season.

  41. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    OT:

    This NYT article At Warby Parker, a Sense of Exclusion in a Low Price about ‘cheap’ glasses reminds me of Steve’s country club exclusion theory of Jewish projection vexation.

    Ginia Bellafante writes:

    The story of Warby Parker more or less conforms to this narrative: One of the young student-founders lost his glasses on a backpacking trip, discovered that they were too expensive to replace, squinted for months and then, with friends who could relate, built a company in 2010…
     
    The actual founding (and founders) omitted from Ginia’s article (from Wikipedia):

    The company was founded in 2010 by Neil Blumenthal, Andrew Hunt, David Gilboa, and Jeffrey Raider, and is headquartered in New York City. The name "Warby Parker" derives from two characters that appear in a journal by the Beat Generation writer Jack Kerouac.
     
    Too bad “Stratton Oakmont” was already taken. Wikipedia:

    The company was started in the Venture Initiation Program of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, where the founders all studied.
     
    This WASPy-sounding company has been wildly successful. However, there may be some casualties among humble descendants of poor, huddled masses. NYT again:

    Imagine how you would feel, though, if you had been selling eyewear for decades, and your origin story dated not to the era of Malia Obama’s middle-school years but to the period of Ellis Island arrivals and mass emigration from Minsk. Both Moscot and Cohen’s Fashion Optical are New York institutions that began as pushcart businesses, with immigrant founders — Hyman Moscot and Abe Cohen — selling eyeglasses on the Lower East Side of Manhattan in the early 20th century. Their flagship stores are cater-corner from each other on Orchard and Delancey Streets. Moscots and Cohens still run the businesses, and they have been forced to respond to Warby Parker’s Occupy Eyewear agenda.
     
    I hate it when the ‘little guy’ gets squeezed by snobby Haven Monahans:

    Cohen’s faces the challenge of trying to seem hip as a franchise business with 130 stores.
     
    Here I agree with Ginia, antifa can go to hell:

    As an aesthetic, antifashion as fashion is annoying and alienating
     
    Ultimately, it comes down to feelings, nothing more than feelings:

    A store like Cohen’s never makes you feel like a loser. Maybe it should post that outside of every branch, and declare a social victory.
     

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Reg Cæsar, @The Undiscovered Jew, @Jack D

    Assuming that Errican is saying that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish (her appearance would suggest that, although the name doesn’t sound Jewish to me and I can’t find anything saying that she is Jewish), the point appears to be that she is trying to blame WASPs for intra-Jewish competition.

    Between this and iStevers trying to guess whether Stephen Miller is Jewish there certainly is great difficulty in the alt-right’s ability to distinguish whites from an ethnic group that’s ‘white only when convenient’.

    In truth Jews are not white when it’s convenient to cover up the fact they act and think politically more or less the same as gentile liberals, and Jews are white when they’re expected to join the pro-white immigration movement the altright/paleoconservatives failed completely to create; an immigration movement that would have been dead in the water if Trump hadn’t picked up the issue.

    Now I’m grateful for the Trumpian wildcard appearing out of nowhere to salvage immigration restriction, but if Buchanan and his apologists weren’t incompetents we wouldn’t have to rely on this hail Mary throw: It helps the Donald isn’t wasting time on side distractions like arguing *Chamberlain* was the one who militarily provoked *Hitler*.

    As for the theme of greedy WASPs hostile to immigrants it was actually created by Communist sympathizing progressive WASPs like Upton Sinclair who wanted to assimilate Great Wave immigrants into New Deal progressivism.

    Actual conservative WASPs haven’t existed since Coolidge and there has been no serious conflict between Great Wave descended Jews and WASPs (other than some restrictions on Jewish admittance to college and country clubs that were actually designed to keep out German Jews) since the latter have been progressive liberals.

    In reality WASPs and Jews get along fine politically and they intermarry frequently with each other as can be seen by the large number of elite Jewish-Episcopalians like Pinch Sulzberger, John Kerry, Cap Weinberger, and Tom Steyer.

    Now, I do hear complaints from Jews being excluded by WASP country clubs only occasionally. But I’ve never seen Jews as obsessed with this country club issue as the propaganda here would like to portray.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    I assume that the Jews being kept out of WASP clubs thing is largely (if not 100%) in the past. Although it was grating, it was never really a big issue, because it was only a golf or social club and Jews could (and did) form their own anyway, where the food was much better (was it a law that WASP clubs had to serve bad food alongside the copious alcohol - couldn't they have had lots of booze AND good food?). What was NOT a joke was the fact that Jews were kept out of universities, med schools, employment by large corporations, corporate boards, etc. But much better to pretend that they were just kvetching about meaningless club memberships and never had any legitimate gripes.

    Otherwise, well said. As I mentioned in another post, I get the feeling that some people here would prefer that the Nazi racial laws would take effect here so that you would know right away whether Gina Bellafonte was or was not of Jewish blood. Gina Sara Bellafonte - YES Gina Maria Bellafonte - NO. Much easier than having to do all that googling.

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew, @Jonathan Silber

    , @Anonymous
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    Now, I do hear complaints from Jews being excluded by WASP country clubs only occasionally. But I’ve never seen Jews as obsessed with this country club issue as the propaganda here would like to portray.

    WTF.

    Jewish country clubs have been hyper-exclusionary since the beginning.

    How often do you hear Jews complain about that? That awful history of Jewish discrimination toward non-Jews?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Clyde

  42. “Hillary Clinton invoked her roles as mother and grandmother on Saturday to deliver an impassioned rebuttal to Donald J. Trump’s contention that her push for stricter gun control would make families less safe…..”

    Hillary Clinton invoked her role as a woman who has been guarded, at tax-payer expense, by armed men for most of the last 38 years……….

    “I believe it’s the most powerful lobby in Washington,”

    Yeah, right, the NRA is the most powerful lobby in Washington. That’s risible.

    “Mrs. Clinton said of the N.R.A. at an event in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., to benefit the Trayvon Martin Foundation’s Circle of Mothers. ….”

    How many mothers have been murdered by people like Trayvon Martin?

  43. “I believe it’s the most powerful lobby in Washington,” Mrs. Clinton said of the N.R.A.
    She is correct, in this sense: the left has been utterly incapable of imposing its will on the country in this area so it strikes her as a powerful lobby.

    She cannot see that the LGBT lobby, representing at best 4% of the country, has been able to impose its will upon the rest. That, of course, isn’t anywhere NEAR as powerful a lobby as ethanol, Israel, the Military-Industrial complex, or her buddies on Wall Street. But she doesn’t see them as powerful, even though they are accomplished, because she agrees with their victories.

    Gun rights is the one area of consistent right-wing victory. I’d love to see her take it on and lose, again, BIG.

  44. @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I don't get the snark aimed at Warby Parker. I'm not a customer, but I give the founders credit: They started a hugely successful company, that lowered prices in an industry dominated by one manufacturer ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxottica ), and the donated lots of eyeglasses along the way (they donate one pair for every pair sold). What exactly is your problem with them, that they didn't use the founders' names as the company name?

    Replies: @Glaivester, @Skinnyhoops, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    What exactly is your problem with them…?

    Warby Parker advertising promotes a clueless, misleading kumbaya view of vibrant diversity and miscgenation.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Skinnyhoops


    Warby Parker advertising promotes a clueless, misleading kumbaya view of vibrant diversity and miscgenation.
     
    It's about one business venture out-competing an existing one.

    The article is blather.

    There is nothing to see here, just the free market and commercial innovation working as they should to lower prices for consumers.

    As for Warby Parker's advertising, that just seems like blather. Actually, it's just good, competent sales patter that knows its customers and knows how to entice them to buy. Marketing that presses socially conscious buttons has a long history. The late Bill Backer (RIP) would have been proud.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VM2eLhvsSM

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/william-backer-ad-man-behind-coke-jingle-that-taught-the-world-to-sing-dies-at-89/2016/05/17/25a6c87a-1be3-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html
  45. “Violence and bigotry?”

    That was my reaction as well when reading this article in the news. The voice of legal gun ownership in America always becomes a “lobby” when advantageous to the left. Yes, the NRA has influence, but the gun industry is a 4 billion dollar a year industry. That may seem like a lot, but it’s pretty small potatoes when compared to the 200+billion dollars a year of the entertainment industry, which spends so much of it’s time putting glorified violence on the screen or in music…and (successfully) lobbying Washington to off stay off it’s back.

  46. @South Texas GUy
    The gun control issue, even more than immigration, is a heaven-sent issue for Trump to beat her on.
    After all was it two or three years ago that a couple of Colorado democrats were recalled from office over the issue? I hope the Donald reserves some time at a gun range, and gets some of his lackeys to bring him some back issues of Guns and Ammo so he can just beat her over the head with this.
    The "prison to pipeline" stuff won't sell as well because it's been 20 or 25 years since violent crime was a super serious problem in this country. I've talked to numerous strait-laced older people who are convinced that hundreds of thousands of people (given some they would not like) are doing long stretches for simple drug possession.
    Oh well. Six months to the election. Hopefully, Trump will still be talking the talk that got him here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Skinnyhoops, @Henry Bowman, @SteveO

    Yes. Seems like harping on second aamendment rights would play really well for Trump in swing states lie PA and MI.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Skinnyhoops

    Perfect examples. Perhaps tip MI, PA, and Indiana back to the Republicans. We need to get gun-owners registered to vote who are not yet registered, then get them to the polls, especially in those swing States where losers McCain and Romney SHOULD have won.

  47. When Hillary comes out with stuff like this, one has to believe that it’s only the liberal elite bubble she lives in that makes it possible. On some level, she and her advisers simply can’t believe that the public isn’t fully on board on these issues.

    I mean, framing gun-control as a way to combat “bigotry”? How does that even the slightest sense, unless indeed one is imagining white male bigots stalking through our land seeking out vulnerable minorities to kill? Is there even a single example of this besides George Zimmerman? She’s going to stake her election prospects on the notion that we must stop the George Zimmermans of America from being able to defend themselves?

    I have to believe that someone — maybe her husband — might have questioned whether this was a winning strategy, but no doubt it was a man who was immediately shouted down by the women in her campaign who wanted no more mansplaining, thank you.

    • Replies: @Golan Globus
    @candid_observer


    I mean, framing gun-control as a way to combat “bigotry”? How does that even the slightest sense,
     
    Michael Moore made a two hour movie about this. The NRA and gun lobby are all about enabling white racists to oppress minorities, especially blacks.

    Guns are the new slavery. The campaign to ban guns is the new abolitionism.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @candid_observer

    So you know that Zimmerman went out looking for trouble? The incident had nothing to do with Martin casing houses to rob?

    Also, Zimmerman is half non-white, isn't he? Funny how he becomes white when it makes whites look dangerous.

  48. @countenance
    From your "Baby Gap" essay in 2004:

    What blue-region white liberals actually want is for the government to disarm the dangerous urban minorities that threaten their children’s safety...(snip)...White liberals, angered by white conservatives’ lack of racial solidarity with them...(snip)

    I don't doubt this is true at least on some level, but I'm trying to work my mind around the political mechanics of this allegation.

    (1) When did urban white liberals ever really care about white racial solidarity in any way? If there were actually any public expression of white racial solidarity, these same urban white liberals would show up in force to protest; they call them "Anti-Fa."

    (2) I also find it amusing that a white liberal Manhattanite actually is mad that ramshackle white people in West Virginia won't let the white liberals in Manhattan disarm dangerous blacks in Harlem. Are we supposed to think that Manhattanites think that West Virginians have veto power over New York City gun laws? The Federal judiciary has gotten a lot more pro-2A in the last two decades, but that has barely impacted NYC gun laws, which white liberal Manhattanites still have at their disposal.

    Of course, I say that like I already don't know the answer, like I don't already see an analogue at work in my own back yard all the time. If I had a dollar for every time I saw, read, heard, urban officials, politicians, law enforcement, prosecutors, from St. Louis and Kansas City blame outstate voters and politicians for their supposed inability to disarm the thug blacks in their own confines and the supposed lack of laws that give them the legal latitude to do so, I could afford to live in Manhattan. However, urban politicians either directly seek votes in urban areas or work for those that do, and while black thugs hardly every vote, their grandmothers do. Meanwhile, outstate white people don't get to vote in St. Louis and Kansas City muni elections. Plus, as we all know, there's a War on Noticing Things. Therefore, instead of telling the truth and naming the Dindu, the Ook, the Africanus Bellcurvius, it's very easy to blame far way mysterious people.

    Replies: @Skinnyhoops, @ben tillman

    All for disarming dangerous illegal or criminal minorities in a manner that upholds the right of law abiding white citizens to arm themselves to the teeth.

  49. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Anonymous

    But in Switzerland immigrants need to get a license to own a weapon, and citizens of certain countries, including Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Algeria and Albania, are explicitly forbidden from owning weapons. Also every gun is registered with the state and there are restrictions on citizens with criminal records or mental illness. The NRA and the liberals would scream bloody murder if we tried to institute the Swiss system of gun ownership in the US, but it is probably the most commonsensical in the world.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @Chris Mallory, @Psmith, @oh its just me too

    and citizens of certain countries, including Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Algeria and Albania, are explicitly forbidden from owning weapons

    Wait that’s racist! Aren’t the swiss banks the ones who looted German jews! … see we have to ban guns.

    The Davos/globalist elite want above all things guns banned in the few remaining countries where they are still allowed, and probably also, it ties in nicely with pacifying/effemmizing men – ban/discourage hunting, encourage passive jock worship.

  50. @Glaivester
    @Dave Pinsen

    I think Errican's point was that the anger at Warby Parker expressed by Ginia Bellafante is due to the fact that a WASPy-sounding company is outcompeting a Jewish-sounding company (Cohen's Fashion Optical), even though at least one of the company's founders (Neil Blumenthal) is Jewish.

    Assuming that Errican is saying that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish (her appearance would suggest that, although the name doesn't sound Jewish to me and I can't find anything saying that she is Jewish), the point appears to be that she is trying to blame WASPs for intra-Jewish competition.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @patrick

    Actually all are Jewish or Jewish raised except Hunt. The idea that Bellafante is blaming intra-Jewish competition on Wasp society is just an example of “When the only tool you have is a hammer ,you see every problem as a nail”. A much more parsimonious explanation is that Bellafante is a middle aged woman who resents not being hip and stylish anymore. If you have followed her writing at all, it’s somewhat surprisingly, conservative and contemptous of virtue signaling about a lot of current “things”. She is anti bike sharing program, skeptical of the idea that women are as geeky as men (see her Game of Thrones review and the abuse she got from the SJW types)etc. I don’t think she is Jewish btw, although her husband is an english prof at Brown(*see her fairly comical status signaling in this article- http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/author/ginia-bellafante/), That being said, she does look like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

  51. @Anonymous
    The obvious riposte to the Hildebeast is, if course, Switzerland.

    By law, every adult Swiss male citizen is obligated to keep a pretty heavy caliber arsenal in his home, yet, (I wonder why?), Switzerland has but a minimal level of gun related homicides.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @BostonTea, @Chrisnonymous, @Erik L, @Anonymous, @ua2

    No African Americans around for the white people to shoot?

  52. If we close the schools, we close the schools to prison pipeline. Is that what they want?

  53. Trump should respond to this by saying, “I want to help the blacks too, but how is granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens and bringing in more refugees going to help the blacks?”

  54. Not to overstate the obvious, but Hillary was speaking to a group of mothers, specifically Black mothers, and all mothers are totally illogical when it comes to their children. There are two facts that no one disputes: #1 – Blacks are killed at higher rates than others, #2 – Blacks are imprisoned at higher rates than others. So, now what?

    #1 – If we ban all guns then not only will Blacks stop shooting other Blacks but Whites (including White police) won’t be able to shoot them.

    #2 – If we let everyone out of prison, then Blacks will no longer be imprisoned at higher rates.

    Genius T Coates has explicitly endorsed the second point, at least, even for violent criminals. Of course, this kind of thinking, that we go back to square one and then everything will be hunky dory ignores the fact that most violent criminals will go right back to being violent criminals and furthermore if we did not have prisons people would be taking the law into their own hands.

    We could probably lower the incarceration rate if prison penalties for, say, drug offenses were lowered. But I’d like to know the actual numbers here. What I do know is that Black folks don’t want drug dealers in their neighborhoods anymore than anyone else, not just because of the drugs but because of what it entails: having strung out low lives invading your neighborhood, prostitution, street violence, drive by shootings, needles and crack vials on the sidewalk, etc. There’s a reason why drug laws exist, and it’s not to persecute people in safe environments who want to smoke a joint or even shoot up while quietly sitting on the couch taking a personal day so you can watch a Brady Bunch marathon on Nickelodeon.

    As for guns, everyone knows that, given our porous borders and the hundreds of millions of firearms already extant, that any gun legislation is only going to ensure that the law abiding will not have guns. We are not Australia or Scotland. The only thing that surprises me is that Hillary didn’t promise to disarm the police.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @SPMoore8

    SP, The mythical "pipeline" that liberals complain about wouldn't' exist if a certain segment of the population regarded education as a pipeline to a successful life.

    , @Captain Tau
    @SPMoore8


    We could probably lower the incarceration rate if prison penalties for, say, drug offenses were lowered. But I’d like to know the actual numbers here.
     
    22% of all U.S. prisoners are in for drug offenses of any kind; not all of them are low-level offenders and not all of them are black. Because noticing that blacks tend to commit violent crimes at much higher rates than other ethnic groups is crimethink, the left has needed to invent an alternative explanation to answer the embarrassing question of why so many African-American men end up behind bars. The answer is, of course, Racism. The left's new (needless to say, substantially factually incorrect) narrative is that mass incarceration is a result of imprisoning hordes of low level African-American drug offenders---even though African-Americans commit "drug crimes" at the exact same rate as whites! (Note that the specific "drug offenses" are usually left unspecified; they want you to think of someone incarcerated for possessing marijuana, not dealing large quantities of crack.) Michelle Alexander's book the New Jim Crow lays this out in (incorrect) detail.

    Somehow, no one has thought to propose "reducing the rate at which African-American commit crimes to the level of whites, Asians or even Hispanics" as a long term solution to mass incarceration. Call me crazy, but I'm not so sure that the current long term strategy of "release large numbers of murderous thugs into poor neighborhoods" is a better approach.

    Replies: @Jack D

  55. It may be “the Democrats’ problem (with gun control)” but there are still plenty of douchebags out there who buy into it. Hence, it becomes a problem for the rest of us who know better.

  56. Mass incarcerationism is another preposterous conspiracy hypothesis. The obvious purpose is to explain why the prisons are crammed with ‘minority’ convicts without taking account of the statistical evidence of their criminality. It’s an emotive gambit that should be mocked with cruel glee.

  57. @Anonymous Nephew
    “I believe it’s the most powerful lobby in Washington”

    Be interesting to have asked her what the competition was for that title.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Fidelios Automata

    It can’t be AIPAC, because that’s not a lobby, it’s the shadow government.

  58. @countenance
    “I believe it’s the most powerful lobby in Washington,” Mrs. Clinton said of the N.R.A.

    Not even close.

    Trial lawyer interests spent more money just to re-elect one Senator in one state in one year, a sure thing at that, Kirsten Gillibrand, New York, 2012, than the NRA-PVF did on all Congressional candidates that year.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer

    Actually, the most powerful lobby in Washington is the Clinton Lobby.

  59. Anyone who uses the term “mass incarceration” in reference to the US in the 21st century is full of mushrooms.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Jean Cocteausten

    Why? We DON'T have a higher incarceration rate than almost every other country in the world?

  60. The cops use drug offenses to put away guys they know have done more serious stuff. The can’t get them on the bad stuff because of the ghetto no snitch rule. The idea that there are more than a few people in prison for smoking a joint or selling an ounce of pot does not pass the stupid test.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Jim Don Bob

    There are plenty of jurisdictions that will indeed convict and throw you in prison for a small quantity of marijuana today in 2016. Ignorant, futile, and unconstitutional, but that's the reality.

    As to federal prison, you'd be right. Anyone who is in federal prison for a drug offense typically was selling real weight, and often of something far more addictive and harmful than marijuana. Just about nobody is in federal prison for smoking a joint or possessing even several ounces of pot or several pot plants.

  61. One retraction from that long ago article…..Chris Rock is no longer a social conservative. None of them are once the lose the ability to make whites laugh.

  62. Although it might not work in the end, this is the best plan that Hillary has – her strength is among blacks, women and SWPLs who think that all non-SWPL whites are hate filled hillbillies. Her speech, though bearing no connection to reality , tried to push the right emotional buttons for all three groups. In her calculus, the people who this speech alienates aren’t going to vote for her anyway – she knows she’s not getting the NRA vote. If you can’t get the votes of a certain group anyway, the best thing you can do with them is hold them up as bogeymen to excite your base. Trump might do the same thing with BLM. Same thing on a state basis — Hillary knows that certain states are out of her reach and she loses nothing by alienating the gun owners of Idaho.

    One problem with this strategy is that it tends to fray the coalition of the fringes – the last thing all the white hipsters in Brooklyn want is for the prison doors to be opened so that their newly gentrified neighborhoods will spin back into ghettoness and destroy the value of their expensive condos. Feminists publicly worry about being raped by blond Haven Monahans but this is just displacement because they are not allowed to say who they really fear. Thus the “secret” plan to move all urban blacks to places like Ferguson via Section 8 housing is the last piece of the puzzle.

    This morning I was listening to the “panel discussion” on Meet the Press and some fat talented tenth light skinned black woman complained that Trump was “dog whistling” white voters because he mentioned Ferguson – up until now he had only complained about immigrants but now he had crossed the line and was hating on blacks also in order to excite his base of KKK whites. The context was that some reporter asked Trump if he had ever visited any dangerous countries (a low blow question from the “neutral” press, intended to make him look bad vs. Hillary whom we know has been in many dangerous places in service to her nation) and he replied that there were plenty of dangerous places right here in the US, such as Ferguson.

    Again, whether the coalition that Hillary is appealing to is enough to get her 50+% of the electoral votes in November remains to be seen, but the strategy is not crazy – I’m sure her people have done the math and think that it adds up.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Jack D

    JackD, your comment beginning "Although it might not work in the end" is a trenchant analysis of the Clinton campaign strategy discussed in the original post. I'd nominate it for the coveted Golden Border award (if I could).

    , @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Feminists publicly worry about being raped by blond Haven Monahans but this is just displacement because they are not allowed to say who they really fear."

    Woodstock 1969 was a sea of blond haired males, yet no rape epidemic went on there. It was a peaceful event.

    Replies: @Jack D

  63. Bugg says:

    “Rebuild the bonds of trust between law enforcement and communities” could be the single dumbest statement of many in the Hillary campaign so far. Da Community has and will always hate the cops. And it’s always way easier to talk about the comparatively and statistically minimal issue of cops shooting black guys, who are almost always criminals anyway than to discuss the epidemic of black people in Da Community killing one another. Only some black lives really matter.

    Keep reminding white working class people that they are the problem in this equation; good luck with that. Heck, the Trump campaign might throw them a few bucks to keep this up. Campaigning on taking Ferguson /Baltimore idiocy nationwide will make this a Trump blowout. Looks like the sane old DLC hands of Bill Clinton’s campaign have been put out to pasture by Huma and SWPL types in their effort to appeal SJWs in the face of Comrade Sanders.

  64. Bugg says:
    @Trelane
    @Lot

    What kind of name is Assata? The etymology, its history, the inferences to be drawn, its raison d'être, its meaning. The very name sounds vaguely obscene.

    And who are these daughters? And why don't we have mental hygine laws and a system of State Hospitals to detain and commit these 'daughters' for their own protection and that of others?

    Why were the inmates let out of the mental hospitals in the 1970s? Whose idea was that?

    I have many questions.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Her given name was Joann Chesimard. All those crazy African names remind of the “Diff’rent Strokes” episode where the Gary Coleman and Todd Bridges embrace their African heritage by adopting ridiculous-sounding African monikers and then quickly realize it was foolish and silly. Cannot find that episode anywhere on line.

    Any sensible president making a deal with Cuba to end the embargo would demand Chesimard and several other domestic terrorists be turned over ASAP as a condition precedent, and the Castros would have complied in a heartbeat. Thanks, Obama!

  65. @gruff
    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there's one that's just a leetle more powerful.

    Replies: @Honorary Thief, @athEIst, @Corvinus, @iffen, @International Jew, @Olorin

    +1 LOL

  66. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    OT:

    This NYT article At Warby Parker, a Sense of Exclusion in a Low Price about ‘cheap’ glasses reminds me of Steve’s country club exclusion theory of Jewish projection vexation.

    Ginia Bellafante writes:

    The story of Warby Parker more or less conforms to this narrative: One of the young student-founders lost his glasses on a backpacking trip, discovered that they were too expensive to replace, squinted for months and then, with friends who could relate, built a company in 2010…
     
    The actual founding (and founders) omitted from Ginia’s article (from Wikipedia):

    The company was founded in 2010 by Neil Blumenthal, Andrew Hunt, David Gilboa, and Jeffrey Raider, and is headquartered in New York City. The name "Warby Parker" derives from two characters that appear in a journal by the Beat Generation writer Jack Kerouac.
     
    Too bad “Stratton Oakmont” was already taken. Wikipedia:

    The company was started in the Venture Initiation Program of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, where the founders all studied.
     
    This WASPy-sounding company has been wildly successful. However, there may be some casualties among humble descendants of poor, huddled masses. NYT again:

    Imagine how you would feel, though, if you had been selling eyewear for decades, and your origin story dated not to the era of Malia Obama’s middle-school years but to the period of Ellis Island arrivals and mass emigration from Minsk. Both Moscot and Cohen’s Fashion Optical are New York institutions that began as pushcart businesses, with immigrant founders — Hyman Moscot and Abe Cohen — selling eyeglasses on the Lower East Side of Manhattan in the early 20th century. Their flagship stores are cater-corner from each other on Orchard and Delancey Streets. Moscots and Cohens still run the businesses, and they have been forced to respond to Warby Parker’s Occupy Eyewear agenda.
     
    I hate it when the ‘little guy’ gets squeezed by snobby Haven Monahans:

    Cohen’s faces the challenge of trying to seem hip as a franchise business with 130 stores.
     
    Here I agree with Ginia, antifa can go to hell:

    As an aesthetic, antifashion as fashion is annoying and alienating
     
    Ultimately, it comes down to feelings, nothing more than feelings:

    A store like Cohen’s never makes you feel like a loser. Maybe it should post that outside of every branch, and declare a social victory.
     

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Reg Cæsar, @The Undiscovered Jew, @Jack D

    In that case, isn’t this whole thing an intra-Jewish dispute? In that case, according to my understanding of Steve’s POV on these kind of things, the best thing for non-Jews to do is just to buy a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show.

    My favorite optical store in NY was on the 10th floor of an old garment center type building on 34th St. – if you didn’t know about it, you would never find it in a million years. The optical shop where they cut the lenses was right there. The guys who ran it totally knew their stuff. The aesthetic of the shop was early rummage sale – chipped formica counters, metal chairs with torn vinyl cushions. I think it started as the place where you could go if your union health care plan offered optical coverage.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Jack D

    Nice description. There are so many of those cheesy, dusty specialist shops in Manhattan.

  67. @Jack D
    Although it might not work in the end, this is the best plan that Hillary has - her strength is among blacks, women and SWPLs who think that all non-SWPL whites are hate filled hillbillies. Her speech, though bearing no connection to reality , tried to push the right emotional buttons for all three groups. In her calculus, the people who this speech alienates aren't going to vote for her anyway - she knows she's not getting the NRA vote. If you can't get the votes of a certain group anyway, the best thing you can do with them is hold them up as bogeymen to excite your base. Trump might do the same thing with BLM. Same thing on a state basis -- Hillary knows that certain states are out of her reach and she loses nothing by alienating the gun owners of Idaho.

    One problem with this strategy is that it tends to fray the coalition of the fringes - the last thing all the white hipsters in Brooklyn want is for the prison doors to be opened so that their newly gentrified neighborhoods will spin back into ghettoness and destroy the value of their expensive condos. Feminists publicly worry about being raped by blond Haven Monahans but this is just displacement because they are not allowed to say who they really fear. Thus the "secret" plan to move all urban blacks to places like Ferguson via Section 8 housing is the last piece of the puzzle.

    This morning I was listening to the "panel discussion" on Meet the Press and some fat talented tenth light skinned black woman complained that Trump was "dog whistling" white voters because he mentioned Ferguson - up until now he had only complained about immigrants but now he had crossed the line and was hating on blacks also in order to excite his base of KKK whites. The context was that some reporter asked Trump if he had ever visited any dangerous countries (a low blow question from the "neutral" press, intended to make him look bad vs. Hillary whom we know has been in many dangerous places in service to her nation) and he replied that there were plenty of dangerous places right here in the US, such as Ferguson.


    Again, whether the coalition that Hillary is appealing to is enough to get her 50+% of the electoral votes in November remains to be seen, but the strategy is not crazy - I'm sure her people have done the math and think that it adds up.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Jefferson

    JackD, your comment beginning “Although it might not work in the end” is a trenchant analysis of the Clinton campaign strategy discussed in the original post. I’d nominate it for the coveted Golden Border award (if I could).

  68. @Trelane
    @Lot

    What kind of name is Assata? The etymology, its history, the inferences to be drawn, its raison d'être, its meaning. The very name sounds vaguely obscene.

    And who are these daughters? And why don't we have mental hygine laws and a system of State Hospitals to detain and commit these 'daughters' for their own protection and that of others?

    Why were the inmates let out of the mental hospitals in the 1970s? Whose idea was that?

    I have many questions.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Assata supposedly means (according to Chesimard), “she who struggles” in some unknown African language. Since Chesimard (and her “daughters”) seems to be the only person on earth who bears this name, I assume that she just made it up. Prior to the 1960s, black people in America had normal American names but part of the “black power” movement was rejecting all things white – thus dashikis and afros and Kwanzaa (which seems to be fading, thank God) and non-European names. Making up “African” names out of whole cloth is harder than it sounds, especially if you are half educated, so you end up with unintentionally comical names like ASSata and Shitaveous.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Assata supposedly means (according to Chesimard), “she who struggles” in some unknown African language. Since Chesimard (and her “daughters”) seems to be the only person on earth who bears this name, I assume that she just made it up. Prior to the 1960s, black people in America had normal American names but part of the “black power” movement was rejecting all things white – thus dashikis and afros and Kwanzaa (which seems to be fading, thank God) and non-European names. Making up “African” names out of whole cloth is harder than it sounds, especially if you are half educated, so you end up with unintentionally comical names like ASSata and Shitaveous."

    In Louisiana you have some Blacks with French last names and ghetto Negro first names, which is a weird combo.

    Names like Shaquilla Petitjean. French and the hood are definitely not a good mix when it comes to names. They don't go well together.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets

  69. @Lot
    If you think the Trayvon Martin Foundation was named in bad taste, I present to you Daughters of Assata:

    http://www.assatasdaughters.org/

    "We are Assata's Daughters"

    Who is Assata? Full name Assata Shakur, born JoAnne Deborah Byron. From wikipedia:

    In May 1973, Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, in which she was accused of killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and grievously assaulting Trooper James Harper.[6] BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur was also killed in the incident, and Shakur was wounded.[6] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[7]

    Shakur was incarcerated in several prisons in the 1970s. She escaped from prison in 1979 and fled to Cuba in 1984 after living as a fugitive for a few years, and received political asylum. She has been living in Cuba ever since. Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified her as a domestic terrorist and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. On May 2, 2013, the FBI added her to the Most Wanted Terrorist List; the first woman to be listed.[8] On the same day, the New Jersey Attorney General offered to match the FBI reward, increasing the total reward for her capture to $2 million.[9]
     

    Replies: @Trelane, @bomag, @Josh, @Anonymous, @ScarletNumber, @Patton

    How could you not mention that she is tupac’s aunt?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Josh

    I was not aware of that. Too bad this cop murderess did not share his fate, and instead writes anti-American propaganda with Castro's dictatorship.

  70. Trayvon Martin Foundation’s Circle of Mothers

    That could be the next euphemism for anonymous group sεx.

  71. Heartiste could not have come up with a more worthy example of the racial infidelity of white women.

    The fact that George Zimmerman is not white, but mestizo, does not even undercut the hatred of white men by liberal women and their pandering to alpha black males.

  72. Since its fatal swerve into outright ‘advocacy’ journalism, American and now Western media at large attached itself to a soft-Marxist worldview that is as rigid as it is relentlessly transmitted. The great tradition of the American press was already ‘advocacy’ by its self-defined role as the fifth estate – watchdog of the people against the powerful. So adding on a layer of sentimental and symbolic Lefty dogma was relatively simple. Morality, especially exhibitionist, preening show of it simply sells; no other jug in this civic medicine show provided a sanctimony boost like racism.

    Now, though, to keep the traditional vision of America, Racist Horror alive, some stretching has been done. …Factual rearticulation, if you will. So a violent thug whose single red-letter in life was managing to get his fool head blown off, and another violent thug whose story was mutated into lynching of a pleading Gentle Giant, become latter-day, and, yes, somewhat problematic martyrs to that ol’ debbil, white racism.

    But there are signs the vast fraud slowly is becoming undone simply by its elemental absurdity evolving to more-apparent state. That Trump, taking the partisan beating he’s had over the past year, identified as the bastard child of Adolf Hitler and Bull Connor, has any following among African Americans and Hispanics is astounding testament to how sour is now the old FreedomLand malarkey. Even resiliently dense True “You Mean Haven Monahan WASN’T the Brains Behind UVA’s Crystalmangumnacht?!” Believers are beginning to panic. The whole, 60-year experiment in spiritual corrosion for the common good could collapse in on itself like the rotten old lean-to it is.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @San Fernando Curt

    In the old America, the black community (or its white leadership) would usually try to select its test case victims carefully so they couldn't be smeared easily. Rosa Parks and Homer Plessy weren't just random riff-raff off the street but were carefully pre-selected talented tenth types who could pass the paper bag test and who had clean and exemplary records. Of course you couldn't always pick - Emmett Till with his convicted and executed rapist murderer father was no one's idea of a poster boy (though they sure tried to memory hole that).

    But in the new America, they don't need to bother with that kind of stuff anymore at all. No one listens to evil racist whites who attempt to smear sainted martyrs, even if the smears are true. The good people control all the important megaphones anyway, so a couple of burglary convictions or drug arrests or a security tape or whatever doesn't prevent a young thug (oops, I mean one of Obama's Sons who would have become a brain surgeon or at least a rap star if given the chance) from becoming a national hero.

    , @kaganovitch
    @San Fernando Curt

    "Crystalmangumnacht" is a wonderful formulation; Bravo!

  73. @South Texas GUy
    The gun control issue, even more than immigration, is a heaven-sent issue for Trump to beat her on.
    After all was it two or three years ago that a couple of Colorado democrats were recalled from office over the issue? I hope the Donald reserves some time at a gun range, and gets some of his lackeys to bring him some back issues of Guns and Ammo so he can just beat her over the head with this.
    The "prison to pipeline" stuff won't sell as well because it's been 20 or 25 years since violent crime was a super serious problem in this country. I've talked to numerous strait-laced older people who are convinced that hundreds of thousands of people (given some they would not like) are doing long stretches for simple drug possession.
    Oh well. Six months to the election. Hopefully, Trump will still be talking the talk that got him here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Skinnyhoops, @Henry Bowman, @SteveO

    Then again immigration does effect gun control in the sense we have more 3rd worlds flooding the nation and giving the dems more seats/power.

    • Replies: @Glaivester
    @Henry Bowman

    Interestingly enough, one gun rights group got that and made an issue of it during the Gang of Eight fight: Gun Owners of America. They endorsed Cruz in the primary, hopefully they will eventually endorse Trump in the general.

  74. @gruff
    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there's one that's just a leetle more powerful.

    Replies: @Honorary Thief, @athEIst, @Corvinus, @iffen, @International Jew, @Olorin

    “NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful.”

    Yes, the American Association for Retired People.

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Corvinus


    Yes, the American Association for Retired People.
     
    You must be right because as we all know they can get US soldiers to wage war for them on foreign soil for old age pensioners.

    Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Corvinus

    As well as AIPAC/Israeli lobby and the National Education Association, no?

  75. Damn it Steve approve my earlier comment.

  76. @Glaivester
    @Dave Pinsen

    I think Errican's point was that the anger at Warby Parker expressed by Ginia Bellafante is due to the fact that a WASPy-sounding company is outcompeting a Jewish-sounding company (Cohen's Fashion Optical), even though at least one of the company's founders (Neil Blumenthal) is Jewish.

    Assuming that Errican is saying that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish (her appearance would suggest that, although the name doesn't sound Jewish to me and I can't find anything saying that she is Jewish), the point appears to be that she is trying to blame WASPs for intra-Jewish competition.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @patrick

    Name sounds Italian to me. I find that Jews and Southern Italians (the majority of Italians in the NYC area) often look alike.

  77. @SPMoore8
    Not to overstate the obvious, but Hillary was speaking to a group of mothers, specifically Black mothers, and all mothers are totally illogical when it comes to their children. There are two facts that no one disputes: #1 - Blacks are killed at higher rates than others, #2 - Blacks are imprisoned at higher rates than others. So, now what?

    #1 - If we ban all guns then not only will Blacks stop shooting other Blacks but Whites (including White police) won't be able to shoot them.

    #2 - If we let everyone out of prison, then Blacks will no longer be imprisoned at higher rates.

    Genius T Coates has explicitly endorsed the second point, at least, even for violent criminals. Of course, this kind of thinking, that we go back to square one and then everything will be hunky dory ignores the fact that most violent criminals will go right back to being violent criminals and furthermore if we did not have prisons people would be taking the law into their own hands.

    We could probably lower the incarceration rate if prison penalties for, say, drug offenses were lowered. But I'd like to know the actual numbers here. What I do know is that Black folks don't want drug dealers in their neighborhoods anymore than anyone else, not just because of the drugs but because of what it entails: having strung out low lives invading your neighborhood, prostitution, street violence, drive by shootings, needles and crack vials on the sidewalk, etc. There's a reason why drug laws exist, and it's not to persecute people in safe environments who want to smoke a joint or even shoot up while quietly sitting on the couch taking a personal day so you can watch a Brady Bunch marathon on Nickelodeon.

    As for guns, everyone knows that, given our porous borders and the hundreds of millions of firearms already extant, that any gun legislation is only going to ensure that the law abiding will not have guns. We are not Australia or Scotland. The only thing that surprises me is that Hillary didn't promise to disarm the police.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Captain Tau

    SP, The mythical “pipeline” that liberals complain about wouldn’t’ exist if a certain segment of the population regarded education as a pipeline to a successful life.

  78. @Corvinus
    @gruff

    "NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful."

    Yes, the American Association for Retired People.

    Replies: @neutral, @RadicalCenter

    Yes, the American Association for Retired People.

    You must be right because as we all know they can get US soldiers to wage war for them on foreign soil for old age pensioners.

    • Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur
    @neutral

    The plan was working really great until W misspelled "Iran." What a doofus.

  79. If she can rebuild those bonds of trust,that would be so cool! “Tarquan you is under arrest for armed robbery. I’m a takin you in!” “The big game is on tonight,can we do this another time?””Well lemme see…Friday work for you?” “Lemme get back to you?” “No worries!” “Have a wonderful day!”

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  80. @SPMoore8
    Not to overstate the obvious, but Hillary was speaking to a group of mothers, specifically Black mothers, and all mothers are totally illogical when it comes to their children. There are two facts that no one disputes: #1 - Blacks are killed at higher rates than others, #2 - Blacks are imprisoned at higher rates than others. So, now what?

    #1 - If we ban all guns then not only will Blacks stop shooting other Blacks but Whites (including White police) won't be able to shoot them.

    #2 - If we let everyone out of prison, then Blacks will no longer be imprisoned at higher rates.

    Genius T Coates has explicitly endorsed the second point, at least, even for violent criminals. Of course, this kind of thinking, that we go back to square one and then everything will be hunky dory ignores the fact that most violent criminals will go right back to being violent criminals and furthermore if we did not have prisons people would be taking the law into their own hands.

    We could probably lower the incarceration rate if prison penalties for, say, drug offenses were lowered. But I'd like to know the actual numbers here. What I do know is that Black folks don't want drug dealers in their neighborhoods anymore than anyone else, not just because of the drugs but because of what it entails: having strung out low lives invading your neighborhood, prostitution, street violence, drive by shootings, needles and crack vials on the sidewalk, etc. There's a reason why drug laws exist, and it's not to persecute people in safe environments who want to smoke a joint or even shoot up while quietly sitting on the couch taking a personal day so you can watch a Brady Bunch marathon on Nickelodeon.

    As for guns, everyone knows that, given our porous borders and the hundreds of millions of firearms already extant, that any gun legislation is only going to ensure that the law abiding will not have guns. We are not Australia or Scotland. The only thing that surprises me is that Hillary didn't promise to disarm the police.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Captain Tau

    We could probably lower the incarceration rate if prison penalties for, say, drug offenses were lowered. But I’d like to know the actual numbers here.

    22% of all U.S. prisoners are in for drug offenses of any kind; not all of them are low-level offenders and not all of them are black. Because noticing that blacks tend to commit violent crimes at much higher rates than other ethnic groups is crimethink, the left has needed to invent an alternative explanation to answer the embarrassing question of why so many African-American men end up behind bars. The answer is, of course, Racism. The left’s new (needless to say, substantially factually incorrect) narrative is that mass incarceration is a result of imprisoning hordes of low level African-American drug offenders—even though African-Americans commit “drug crimes” at the exact same rate as whites! (Note that the specific “drug offenses” are usually left unspecified; they want you to think of someone incarcerated for possessing marijuana, not dealing large quantities of crack.) Michelle Alexander’s book the New Jim Crow lays this out in (incorrect) detail.

    Somehow, no one has thought to propose “reducing the rate at which African-American commit crimes to the level of whites, Asians or even Hispanics” as a long term solution to mass incarceration. Call me crazy, but I’m not so sure that the current long term strategy of “release large numbers of murderous thugs into poor neighborhoods” is a better approach.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Captain Tau


    no one has thought to propose “reducing the rate at which African-American commit crimes to the level of whites, Asians or even Hispanics” as a long term solution to mass incarceration
     
    This differential rate of offending (along with, probably not coincidentally, the IQ gap) has existed for as long as crime statistics have been kept. Most social science statistics are garbage but these two are rock solid. It has about as much chance of going away as the Gap does (or the gravitational constant). So this is one more area where we need Affirmative Action.
  81. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    Why do we need a free press? Newspaper readership is at historic lows. Owning a newspaper is basically stupid.

    It doesn’t matter what you think about these questions, because the Founding Fathers put freedom of the press and the right to bear arms right in the Constitution, ranking them #1 and #2 . So until we repeal the Constitution or “interpret it for our times” into meaninglessness, we are stuck with these rights. Which is just as well, because the Founding Fathers put a lot of thought and study into preventing their future nation from becoming a tyranny and it has worked pretty well for 200+ years so they must have had a pretty good plan. And they thought that both of these rights were very important not for preventing burglars but for preventing tyranny.

    • Replies: @Reactionary Utopian
    @Jack D


    So until we repeal the Constitution or “interpret it for our times” into meaninglessness, we are stuck with these rights. Which is just as well, because the Founding Fathers put a lot of thought and study into preventing their future nation from becoming a tyranny and it has worked pretty well for 200+ years so they must have had a pretty good plan.
     
    This constitution of which you speak ... why would our supervisors need to repeal or reinterpret it? They simply ignore the damn thing, and since they don't get overthrown and stood up against a wall, they know everybody's on board. I would claim that, as a limiter of the central government, the Constitution was certifiable as dead by the time of the Whisky Rebellion. But even if you don't buy that, how could anyone doubt that Father Abraham completely trashed it in the 1860s?
  82. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    Tiny Duck is confounded by the fact that no majority black city in the world is safe and simultaneously comforted by the fact he does not live in one.

    Priggishly smug and self-assured of his moral superiority, Tiny Duck is so smitten with his virtue that he is incapable of seeing that the racial cohort who does the most harm with guns are blacks. And, against his most fervent of beliefs, they overwhelmingly tend to kill other blacks.

    However, rather than addressing the grim face of reality, the apostle of Africanism sees it righteous to disarm all so that the blacks can stop killing other blacks (and whites). Nevermind such arcane documents that guarantee firearm rights such as the constitution and despite the fact that most gun murders are committed by people who are legally barred from owning guns.

    But virtue signaling does not need to confront the real world. And for that, I propose three huzzahs for Tiny Duck! The religion of progressivism march forth!!!

  83. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The Warshawski family of Chicago started the J C Whitney catalog, though to their credit (and real Whitneys' relief) they kept their own name in private life. I thought the Warshawski catalog was suspiciously derivative, but apparently that one is the wholesale division.

    I think Eli Whitney would agree that parts may be interchangeable, but people aren't.

    Replies: @Jack D

    In 1938, the Nazis decreed that all Jewish men had to be named Israel and all Jewish women had to be named Sarah. If your name was say Adolph Mueller, you would henceforth become Israel Adolph Mueller. This way, all Germans would know whenever they were dealing with a Jew.

    Sometimes, I get the feeling that this law would get a lot of support from certain people on this blog.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Jack D

    (((They're trying.)))

    , @Big Bill
    @Jack D

    We should just do like the Israelis do and put the race/religion/ethny on everybody's ID card. Much simpler. More reliable.

    Anybody could say "my name is Isaac" or "my name is Biff". But with your breeding records right there in black and white, laminated and issued by the government (complete with photograph?), there would be no doubt. That is truly the way to "heal the world".

  84. @Jack D
    @Trelane

    Assata supposedly means (according to Chesimard), "she who struggles" in some unknown African language. Since Chesimard (and her "daughters") seems to be the only person on earth who bears this name, I assume that she just made it up. Prior to the 1960s, black people in America had normal American names but part of the "black power" movement was rejecting all things white - thus dashikis and afros and Kwanzaa (which seems to be fading, thank God) and non-European names. Making up "African" names out of whole cloth is harder than it sounds, especially if you are half educated, so you end up with unintentionally comical names like ASSata and Shitaveous.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Assata supposedly means (according to Chesimard), “she who struggles” in some unknown African language. Since Chesimard (and her “daughters”) seems to be the only person on earth who bears this name, I assume that she just made it up. Prior to the 1960s, black people in America had normal American names but part of the “black power” movement was rejecting all things white – thus dashikis and afros and Kwanzaa (which seems to be fading, thank God) and non-European names. Making up “African” names out of whole cloth is harder than it sounds, especially if you are half educated, so you end up with unintentionally comical names like ASSata and Shitaveous.”

    In Louisiana you have some Blacks with French last names and ghetto Negro first names, which is a weird combo.

    Names like Shaquilla Petitjean. French and the hood are definitely not a good mix when it comes to names. They don’t go well together.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    @Jefferson


    Names like Shaquilla Petitjean. French and the hood are definitely not a good mix when it comes to names. They don’t go well together.
     
    Neither are medical terms. There are girls named things like Placenta, and on a different line, I know of a girl whose name is pronounced "la dash a" but written: la-a.

    There simply is no fixing what Natural Selection is prevented from eliminating.
  85. @iffen
    Mrs. Clinton vowed to end the “schools to prison pipeline” that affects black men.

    Maybe a "schools to jobs pipeline" could hold promise.

    Replies: @Kylie, @RadicalCenter

    “Mrs. Clinton vowed to end the ‘schools to prison pipeline’ that affects black men.

    Maybe a ‘schools to jobs pipeline’ could hold promise.”

    I think the threat of a “schools to jobs pipeline” would hold promise of revitalizing the “back to Africa” movement.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @Kylie

    Bad girl. Bad, bad girl.

  86. @Lot
    If you think the Trayvon Martin Foundation was named in bad taste, I present to you Daughters of Assata:

    http://www.assatasdaughters.org/

    "We are Assata's Daughters"

    Who is Assata? Full name Assata Shakur, born JoAnne Deborah Byron. From wikipedia:

    In May 1973, Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, in which she was accused of killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and grievously assaulting Trooper James Harper.[6] BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur was also killed in the incident, and Shakur was wounded.[6] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[7]

    Shakur was incarcerated in several prisons in the 1970s. She escaped from prison in 1979 and fled to Cuba in 1984 after living as a fugitive for a few years, and received political asylum. She has been living in Cuba ever since. Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified her as a domestic terrorist and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. On May 2, 2013, the FBI added her to the Most Wanted Terrorist List; the first woman to be listed.[8] On the same day, the New Jersey Attorney General offered to match the FBI reward, increasing the total reward for her capture to $2 million.[9]
     

    Replies: @Trelane, @bomag, @Josh, @Anonymous, @ScarletNumber, @Patton

    Hmmmm…
    There doesn’t appear to be anyone featured on their website with a real-world skill (scientist, engineer , etc).
    What a bunch of misguided mush-brains.
    America is gone.

  87. @Josh
    @Lot

    How could you not mention that she is tupac's aunt?

    Replies: @Lot

    I was not aware of that. Too bad this cop murderess did not share his fate, and instead writes anti-American propaganda with Castro’s dictatorship.

  88. @San Fernando Curt
    Since its fatal swerve into outright 'advocacy' journalism, American and now Western media at large attached itself to a soft-Marxist worldview that is as rigid as it is relentlessly transmitted. The great tradition of the American press was already 'advocacy' by its self-defined role as the fifth estate - watchdog of the people against the powerful. So adding on a layer of sentimental and symbolic Lefty dogma was relatively simple. Morality, especially exhibitionist, preening show of it simply sells; no other jug in this civic medicine show provided a sanctimony boost like racism.

    Now, though, to keep the traditional vision of America, Racist Horror alive, some stretching has been done. ...Factual rearticulation, if you will. So a violent thug whose single red-letter in life was managing to get his fool head blown off, and another violent thug whose story was mutated into lynching of a pleading Gentle Giant, become latter-day, and, yes, somewhat problematic martyrs to that ol' debbil, white racism.

    But there are signs the vast fraud slowly is becoming undone simply by its elemental absurdity evolving to more-apparent state. That Trump, taking the partisan beating he's had over the past year, identified as the bastard child of Adolf Hitler and Bull Connor, has any following among African Americans and Hispanics is astounding testament to how sour is now the old FreedomLand malarkey. Even resiliently dense True "You Mean Haven Monahan WASN'T the Brains Behind UVA's Crystalmangumnacht?!" Believers are beginning to panic. The whole, 60-year experiment in spiritual corrosion for the common good could collapse in on itself like the rotten old lean-to it is.

    Replies: @Jack D, @kaganovitch

    In the old America, the black community (or its white leadership) would usually try to select its test case victims carefully so they couldn’t be smeared easily. Rosa Parks and Homer Plessy weren’t just random riff-raff off the street but were carefully pre-selected talented tenth types who could pass the paper bag test and who had clean and exemplary records. Of course you couldn’t always pick – Emmett Till with his convicted and executed rapist murderer father was no one’s idea of a poster boy (though they sure tried to memory hole that).

    But in the new America, they don’t need to bother with that kind of stuff anymore at all. No one listens to evil racist whites who attempt to smear sainted martyrs, even if the smears are true. The good people control all the important megaphones anyway, so a couple of burglary convictions or drug arrests or a security tape or whatever doesn’t prevent a young thug (oops, I mean one of Obama’s Sons who would have become a brain surgeon or at least a rap star if given the chance) from becoming a national hero.

  89. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    “Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows.”

    If crime really is at historic lows, there is simply no point in banning guns.

  90. Hmmm

    And Bernie Sanders has already endorsed her anti-gun and much of her pro-immigration platform. There simply isn’t any way for Trump to lose despite the entire Jewish community, the main stream media and much of the establishment trying to take his head off for daring to declare he would put Americans and America first. And just to be sure there was no misunderstanding, he also declared that he would remain neutral on Israel and treat it like the rest of the world. And then to add insult to injury, he had the audacity to declare that US border security and stopping illegal aliens from from pouring across the Mexican border who end up on welfare was of paramount importance to America and Americans. I mean can you believe this guy? The idea of putting America and Americans before Israel, why its treason, racism, bigotry you know all that bad stuff.. One thing is clear here. If somebody pulls a Bobby Kennedy, you can bet you life “Islamic terrorists” were NOT responsible, no matter how the paint the picture in the media.

    • Replies: @Greasy William
    @DDearborn


    he also declared that he would remain neutral on Israel and treat it like the rest of the world
     
    He said no such thing.

    As a Jewish Trump supporter, I'm really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    6 months in to Trump's first term and you guys will be wishing for Hillary.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Glaivester

  91. @Jack D
    Although it might not work in the end, this is the best plan that Hillary has - her strength is among blacks, women and SWPLs who think that all non-SWPL whites are hate filled hillbillies. Her speech, though bearing no connection to reality , tried to push the right emotional buttons for all three groups. In her calculus, the people who this speech alienates aren't going to vote for her anyway - she knows she's not getting the NRA vote. If you can't get the votes of a certain group anyway, the best thing you can do with them is hold them up as bogeymen to excite your base. Trump might do the same thing with BLM. Same thing on a state basis -- Hillary knows that certain states are out of her reach and she loses nothing by alienating the gun owners of Idaho.

    One problem with this strategy is that it tends to fray the coalition of the fringes - the last thing all the white hipsters in Brooklyn want is for the prison doors to be opened so that their newly gentrified neighborhoods will spin back into ghettoness and destroy the value of their expensive condos. Feminists publicly worry about being raped by blond Haven Monahans but this is just displacement because they are not allowed to say who they really fear. Thus the "secret" plan to move all urban blacks to places like Ferguson via Section 8 housing is the last piece of the puzzle.

    This morning I was listening to the "panel discussion" on Meet the Press and some fat talented tenth light skinned black woman complained that Trump was "dog whistling" white voters because he mentioned Ferguson - up until now he had only complained about immigrants but now he had crossed the line and was hating on blacks also in order to excite his base of KKK whites. The context was that some reporter asked Trump if he had ever visited any dangerous countries (a low blow question from the "neutral" press, intended to make him look bad vs. Hillary whom we know has been in many dangerous places in service to her nation) and he replied that there were plenty of dangerous places right here in the US, such as Ferguson.


    Again, whether the coalition that Hillary is appealing to is enough to get her 50+% of the electoral votes in November remains to be seen, but the strategy is not crazy - I'm sure her people have done the math and think that it adds up.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Jefferson

    “Feminists publicly worry about being raped by blond Haven Monahans but this is just displacement because they are not allowed to say who they really fear.”

    Woodstock 1969 was a sea of blond haired males, yet no rape epidemic went on there. It was a peaceful event.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jefferson

    By current year standards there were many rapes because many of the women had consumed mind altering substances and were no longer capable of giving consent. The men also probably did not request and receive written or verbal consent from the women at each stage of copulation as currently required.

  92. @San Fernando Curt
    Since its fatal swerve into outright 'advocacy' journalism, American and now Western media at large attached itself to a soft-Marxist worldview that is as rigid as it is relentlessly transmitted. The great tradition of the American press was already 'advocacy' by its self-defined role as the fifth estate - watchdog of the people against the powerful. So adding on a layer of sentimental and symbolic Lefty dogma was relatively simple. Morality, especially exhibitionist, preening show of it simply sells; no other jug in this civic medicine show provided a sanctimony boost like racism.

    Now, though, to keep the traditional vision of America, Racist Horror alive, some stretching has been done. ...Factual rearticulation, if you will. So a violent thug whose single red-letter in life was managing to get his fool head blown off, and another violent thug whose story was mutated into lynching of a pleading Gentle Giant, become latter-day, and, yes, somewhat problematic martyrs to that ol' debbil, white racism.

    But there are signs the vast fraud slowly is becoming undone simply by its elemental absurdity evolving to more-apparent state. That Trump, taking the partisan beating he's had over the past year, identified as the bastard child of Adolf Hitler and Bull Connor, has any following among African Americans and Hispanics is astounding testament to how sour is now the old FreedomLand malarkey. Even resiliently dense True "You Mean Haven Monahan WASN'T the Brains Behind UVA's Crystalmangumnacht?!" Believers are beginning to panic. The whole, 60-year experiment in spiritual corrosion for the common good could collapse in on itself like the rotten old lean-to it is.

    Replies: @Jack D, @kaganovitch

    “Crystalmangumnacht” is a wonderful formulation; Bravo!

  93. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    Tiny duck rhymes with stupid f%~#

  94. @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Assuming that Errican is saying that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish (her appearance would suggest that, although the name doesn’t sound Jewish to me and I can’t find anything saying that she is Jewish), the point appears to be that she is trying to blame WASPs for intra-Jewish competition.

    Between this and iStevers trying to guess whether Stephen Miller is Jewish there certainly is great difficulty in the alt-right's ability to distinguish whites from an ethnic group that's 'white only when convenient'.

    In truth Jews are not white when it's convenient to cover up the fact they act and think politically more or less the same as gentile liberals, and Jews are white when they're expected to join the pro-white immigration movement the altright/paleoconservatives failed completely to create; an immigration movement that would have been dead in the water if Trump hadn't picked up the issue.

    Now I'm grateful for the Trumpian wildcard appearing out of nowhere to salvage immigration restriction, but if Buchanan and his apologists weren't incompetents we wouldn't have to rely on this hail Mary throw: It helps the Donald isn't wasting time on side distractions like arguing *Chamberlain* was the one who militarily provoked *Hitler*.

    As for the theme of greedy WASPs hostile to immigrants it was actually created by Communist sympathizing progressive WASPs like Upton Sinclair who wanted to assimilate Great Wave immigrants into New Deal progressivism.

    Actual conservative WASPs haven't existed since Coolidge and there has been no serious conflict between Great Wave descended Jews and WASPs (other than some restrictions on Jewish admittance to college and country clubs that were actually designed to keep out German Jews) since the latter have been progressive liberals.

    In reality WASPs and Jews get along fine politically and they intermarry frequently with each other as can be seen by the large number of elite Jewish-Episcopalians like Pinch Sulzberger, John Kerry, Cap Weinberger, and Tom Steyer.

    Now, I do hear complaints from Jews being excluded by WASP country clubs only occasionally. But I've never seen Jews as obsessed with this country club issue as the propaganda here would like to portray.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous

    I assume that the Jews being kept out of WASP clubs thing is largely (if not 100%) in the past. Although it was grating, it was never really a big issue, because it was only a golf or social club and Jews could (and did) form their own anyway, where the food was much better (was it a law that WASP clubs had to serve bad food alongside the copious alcohol – couldn’t they have had lots of booze AND good food?). What was NOT a joke was the fact that Jews were kept out of universities, med schools, employment by large corporations, corporate boards, etc. But much better to pretend that they were just kvetching about meaningless club memberships and never had any legitimate gripes.

    Otherwise, well said. As I mentioned in another post, I get the feeling that some people here would prefer that the Nazi racial laws would take effect here so that you would know right away whether Gina Bellafonte was or was not of Jewish blood. Gina Sara Bellafonte – YES Gina Maria Bellafonte – NO. Much easier than having to do all that googling.

    • Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Jack D

    I assume that the Jews being kept out of WASP clubs thing is largely (if not 100%) in the past. Although it was grating, it was never really a big issue, because it was only a golf or social club and Jews could (and did) form their own anyway, where the food was much better (was it a law that WASP clubs had to serve bad food alongside the copious alcohol – couldn’t they have had lots of booze AND good food?). What was NOT a joke was the fact that Jews were kept out of universities, med schools, employment by large corporations, corporate boards, etc.

    Most of the club bans and university caps originally affected German American Jews, who nonetheless leaned conservative politically. Great Wave immigrant Jews didn't encounter those barriers until the last two or three decades before they were wound down in the 1960s simply because they were too recent and poor to know where the elite (WASP or Jewish) was socializing.

    So yes it is old news and a bit silly for any Jews under 60 to be still complaining about it. But Jews in private aren't constantly bringing the topic up as some would have you believe.

    In reality Jewish and WASP politics have aligned very neatly, before WWII German Jews were allied with conservative WASPs. After WWII when progressive WASPs had displaced the old capitalist WASPs with the New Deal, Jews aligned their politics with WASP progressives.

    , @Jonathan Silber
    @Jack D

    ...Jews were kept out of universities, med schools...large corporations, corporate boards, etc.

    My father, now deceased, was Jewish and a cardiologist. Back in the forties, he'd been accepted to medical school, he told me, at Johns Hopkins, but was informed by the school, before classes started and without explanation, that his acceptance had been withdrawn. He suspected, with what if any evidence I don't know, that the school had discovered he was Jewish.

    He went elsewhere to medical school and had a distinguished career.

  95. @Anonymous
    The obvious riposte to the Hildebeast is, if course, Switzerland.

    By law, every adult Swiss male citizen is obligated to keep a pretty heavy caliber arsenal in his home, yet, (I wonder why?), Switzerland has but a minimal level of gun related homicides.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @BostonTea, @Chrisnonymous, @Erik L, @Anonymous, @ua2

    Switzerland has few (if any) blacks…Duh!

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Anonymous

    Tina Turner resides there, and I believe Oprah visited there to buy a Gucci handbag few yrs ago but some racist behind the counter refused to sell her the most expensive handbag.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

  96. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Assuming that Errican is saying that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish (her appearance would suggest that, although the name doesn’t sound Jewish to me and I can’t find anything saying that she is Jewish), the point appears to be that she is trying to blame WASPs for intra-Jewish competition.

    Between this and iStevers trying to guess whether Stephen Miller is Jewish there certainly is great difficulty in the alt-right's ability to distinguish whites from an ethnic group that's 'white only when convenient'.

    In truth Jews are not white when it's convenient to cover up the fact they act and think politically more or less the same as gentile liberals, and Jews are white when they're expected to join the pro-white immigration movement the altright/paleoconservatives failed completely to create; an immigration movement that would have been dead in the water if Trump hadn't picked up the issue.

    Now I'm grateful for the Trumpian wildcard appearing out of nowhere to salvage immigration restriction, but if Buchanan and his apologists weren't incompetents we wouldn't have to rely on this hail Mary throw: It helps the Donald isn't wasting time on side distractions like arguing *Chamberlain* was the one who militarily provoked *Hitler*.

    As for the theme of greedy WASPs hostile to immigrants it was actually created by Communist sympathizing progressive WASPs like Upton Sinclair who wanted to assimilate Great Wave immigrants into New Deal progressivism.

    Actual conservative WASPs haven't existed since Coolidge and there has been no serious conflict between Great Wave descended Jews and WASPs (other than some restrictions on Jewish admittance to college and country clubs that were actually designed to keep out German Jews) since the latter have been progressive liberals.

    In reality WASPs and Jews get along fine politically and they intermarry frequently with each other as can be seen by the large number of elite Jewish-Episcopalians like Pinch Sulzberger, John Kerry, Cap Weinberger, and Tom Steyer.

    Now, I do hear complaints from Jews being excluded by WASP country clubs only occasionally. But I've never seen Jews as obsessed with this country club issue as the propaganda here would like to portray.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous

    Now, I do hear complaints from Jews being excluded by WASP country clubs only occasionally. But I’ve never seen Jews as obsessed with this country club issue as the propaganda here would like to portray.

    WTF.

    Jewish country clubs have been hyper-exclusionary since the beginning.

    How often do you hear Jews complain about that? That awful history of Jewish discrimination toward non-Jews?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Because it doesn't exist - back in the day no WASP would have ever dreamed of applying to join a Jewish club any more than you would ever want to apply to join the Trayvon Martin Circle of Mothers.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Clyde
    @Anonymous


    Jewish country clubs have been hyper-exclusionary since the beginning.
     
    Because they wanted to able to tell all the good Jew jokes and good goyim jokes without outsiders hanging around. I can't blame them. And in all seriousness, those waspy clubs that excluded Jews, I am sure lots of Jew jokes were told that would not have been told had Jews been admitted.

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew

  97. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    In 1938, the Nazis decreed that all Jewish men had to be named Israel and all Jewish women had to be named Sarah. If your name was say Adolph Mueller, you would henceforth become Israel Adolph Mueller. This way, all Germans would know whenever they were dealing with a Jew.

    Sometimes, I get the feeling that this law would get a lot of support from certain people on this blog.

    Replies: @SFG, @Big Bill

    (((They’re trying.)))

  98. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Why do we need a free press? Newspaper readership is at historic lows. Owning a newspaper is basically stupid.

    It doesn't matter what you think about these questions, because the Founding Fathers put freedom of the press and the right to bear arms right in the Constitution, ranking them #1 and #2 . So until we repeal the Constitution or "interpret it for our times" into meaninglessness, we are stuck with these rights. Which is just as well, because the Founding Fathers put a lot of thought and study into preventing their future nation from becoming a tyranny and it has worked pretty well for 200+ years so they must have had a pretty good plan. And they thought that both of these rights were very important not for preventing burglars but for preventing tyranny.

    Replies: @Reactionary Utopian

    So until we repeal the Constitution or “interpret it for our times” into meaninglessness, we are stuck with these rights. Which is just as well, because the Founding Fathers put a lot of thought and study into preventing their future nation from becoming a tyranny and it has worked pretty well for 200+ years so they must have had a pretty good plan.

    This constitution of which you speak … why would our supervisors need to repeal or reinterpret it? They simply ignore the damn thing, and since they don’t get overthrown and stood up against a wall, they know everybody’s on board. I would claim that, as a limiter of the central government, the Constitution was certifiable as dead by the time of the Whisky Rebellion. But even if you don’t buy that, how could anyone doubt that Father Abraham completely trashed it in the 1860s?

  99. Left Wing actor and member of BLM, Jesse Williams basically admits that Black Lies Matter would not exist if not for Black Homosexuals.
    http://madamenoire.com/697711/jesse-williams-produces-and-stars-in-new-blacklivesmatter-doc/

    Black Lies Matter is basically the Gay Black mafia.

  100. @South Texas GUy
    The gun control issue, even more than immigration, is a heaven-sent issue for Trump to beat her on.
    After all was it two or three years ago that a couple of Colorado democrats were recalled from office over the issue? I hope the Donald reserves some time at a gun range, and gets some of his lackeys to bring him some back issues of Guns and Ammo so he can just beat her over the head with this.
    The "prison to pipeline" stuff won't sell as well because it's been 20 or 25 years since violent crime was a super serious problem in this country. I've talked to numerous strait-laced older people who are convinced that hundreds of thousands of people (given some they would not like) are doing long stretches for simple drug possession.
    Oh well. Six months to the election. Hopefully, Trump will still be talking the talk that got him here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Skinnyhoops, @Henry Bowman, @SteveO

    I hope the Donald reserves some time at a gun range, and gets some of his lackeys to bring him some back issues of Guns and Ammo so he can just beat her over the head with this.

    He doesn’t need to do that. Assuming that Trump is not a current gun user (I assume he or someone in his entourage is a gun owner), he doesn’t have to pretend to be. That would like one of those awkward hunting trips very urbane politicians go on during election season to prove they’re regular guys.

    Instead, Trump could do well by doing good, so speak. All he has to do is say, “I don’t hunt or target shoot myself, but I believe the Second Amendment absolutely guarantees your right to own firearms. Anyone who reads the Amendment with an open mind instead of seeking ways to vitiate it will agree. In my administration, your right to own a gun will be defended, just as your constitutional right to free speech and the other basic guarantees of our Bill Rights will be.”

    Or something like that.

    Such a statement covers everyone who’s not a gun-control fanatic; it covers the gun lovers, the gun owners-but-not-lovers and the people like me who are neither but who believe that the Constitution is clear on this matter and must be respected.

    Trump would sound honest, thoughtful and Presidential, which is a good way for him to sound right now.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @SteveO

    A New York newspaper reported around 2000 that Trump had a rare NYC concealed carry permit.

  101. @SteveO
    @South Texas GUy


    I hope the Donald reserves some time at a gun range, and gets some of his lackeys to bring him some back issues of Guns and Ammo so he can just beat her over the head with this.
     
    He doesn't need to do that. Assuming that Trump is not a current gun user (I assume he or someone in his entourage is a gun owner), he doesn't have to pretend to be. That would like one of those awkward hunting trips very urbane politicians go on during election season to prove they're regular guys.

    Instead, Trump could do well by doing good, so speak. All he has to do is say, "I don't hunt or target shoot myself, but I believe the Second Amendment absolutely guarantees your right to own firearms. Anyone who reads the Amendment with an open mind instead of seeking ways to vitiate it will agree. In my administration, your right to own a gun will be defended, just as your constitutional right to free speech and the other basic guarantees of our Bill Rights will be."

    Or something like that.

    Such a statement covers everyone who's not a gun-control fanatic; it covers the gun lovers, the gun owners-but-not-lovers and the people like me who are neither but who believe that the Constitution is clear on this matter and must be respected.

    Trump would sound honest, thoughtful and Presidential, which is a good way for him to sound right now.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A New York newspaper reported around 2000 that Trump had a rare NYC concealed carry permit.

  102. @gruff
    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there's one that's just a leetle more powerful.

    Replies: @Honorary Thief, @athEIst, @Corvinus, @iffen, @International Jew, @Olorin

    Don’t worry, the MSM will be all over this. Pants on Fire and Fact Check will have major pieces up before long.

  103. @Captain Tau
    @SPMoore8


    We could probably lower the incarceration rate if prison penalties for, say, drug offenses were lowered. But I’d like to know the actual numbers here.
     
    22% of all U.S. prisoners are in for drug offenses of any kind; not all of them are low-level offenders and not all of them are black. Because noticing that blacks tend to commit violent crimes at much higher rates than other ethnic groups is crimethink, the left has needed to invent an alternative explanation to answer the embarrassing question of why so many African-American men end up behind bars. The answer is, of course, Racism. The left's new (needless to say, substantially factually incorrect) narrative is that mass incarceration is a result of imprisoning hordes of low level African-American drug offenders---even though African-Americans commit "drug crimes" at the exact same rate as whites! (Note that the specific "drug offenses" are usually left unspecified; they want you to think of someone incarcerated for possessing marijuana, not dealing large quantities of crack.) Michelle Alexander's book the New Jim Crow lays this out in (incorrect) detail.

    Somehow, no one has thought to propose "reducing the rate at which African-American commit crimes to the level of whites, Asians or even Hispanics" as a long term solution to mass incarceration. Call me crazy, but I'm not so sure that the current long term strategy of "release large numbers of murderous thugs into poor neighborhoods" is a better approach.

    Replies: @Jack D

    no one has thought to propose “reducing the rate at which African-American commit crimes to the level of whites, Asians or even Hispanics” as a long term solution to mass incarceration

    This differential rate of offending (along with, probably not coincidentally, the IQ gap) has existed for as long as crime statistics have been kept. Most social science statistics are garbage but these two are rock solid. It has about as much chance of going away as the Gap does (or the gravitational constant). So this is one more area where we need Affirmative Action.

  104. Interesting observation in that if you are a foreigner who flies into The U.S for the first time and you are passing through TSA, you would think The U.S is a majority Negro nation.
    http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2016/05/a-fact-matt-drudge-wont-touch-tsa.html?m=1

    • Replies: @cwhatfuture
    @Jefferson

    Most of whom stand around doing nothing except pointing very vaguely somewhere not in the direction you need to go and occasionally telling people to shut off their cell phone. Many of these employees seem to be doing absolutely nothing at all and a few do not speak understandable English. Coming into the US, with its absurdly long lines, one line to get into the useless picture taking kiosk (who had the contract for that?!), one line for someone to look at your passport, another line for customs, all while being surrounded by useless people vaguely pointing to nowhere, it fully hits you that the US is now a 3rd world country. If I can do it, when I leave Europe, I go through US immigration and customs in Dublin, that is efficient and fast and it allows me to land at a domestic gate at a US airport and pretend we are still a first world country.

  105. @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Feminists publicly worry about being raped by blond Haven Monahans but this is just displacement because they are not allowed to say who they really fear."

    Woodstock 1969 was a sea of blond haired males, yet no rape epidemic went on there. It was a peaceful event.

    Replies: @Jack D

    By current year standards there were many rapes because many of the women had consumed mind altering substances and were no longer capable of giving consent. The men also probably did not request and receive written or verbal consent from the women at each stage of copulation as currently required.

  106. @Anonymous
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    Now, I do hear complaints from Jews being excluded by WASP country clubs only occasionally. But I’ve never seen Jews as obsessed with this country club issue as the propaganda here would like to portray.

    WTF.

    Jewish country clubs have been hyper-exclusionary since the beginning.

    How often do you hear Jews complain about that? That awful history of Jewish discrimination toward non-Jews?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Clyde

    Because it doesn’t exist – back in the day no WASP would have ever dreamed of applying to join a Jewish club any more than you would ever want to apply to join the Trayvon Martin Circle of Mothers.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Jack D


    Because it doesn’t exist – back in the day no WASP would have ever dreamed of applying to join a Jewish club any more than you would ever want to apply to join the Trayvon Martin Circle of Mothers.
     
    And that says everything you need to know about the relationship between the two groups. The Jews wanted what the "WASPs" had, and the feeling wasn't mutual.
  107. @Anonymous
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    Now, I do hear complaints from Jews being excluded by WASP country clubs only occasionally. But I’ve never seen Jews as obsessed with this country club issue as the propaganda here would like to portray.

    WTF.

    Jewish country clubs have been hyper-exclusionary since the beginning.

    How often do you hear Jews complain about that? That awful history of Jewish discrimination toward non-Jews?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Clyde

    Jewish country clubs have been hyper-exclusionary since the beginning.

    Because they wanted to able to tell all the good Jew jokes and good goyim jokes without outsiders hanging around. I can’t blame them. And in all seriousness, those waspy clubs that excluded Jews, I am sure lots of Jew jokes were told that would not have been told had Jews been admitted.

    • Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Clyde

    How often do you hear Jews complain about that? That awful history of Jewish discrimination toward non-Jews?

    There's little history of Jews persecuting non-Jews between the conversion of Rome to Christianity and their emancipation in the 19th century because the opportunity to do so didn't really present itself.

    From the 19th century to the present one can only point to examples where Jews supported harmful policies that were also supported by greater numbers of elite gentiles.

    The evidence shows Jews were harmed far more by gentiles than the other way around.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  108. @DDearborn
    Hmmm

    And Bernie Sanders has already endorsed her anti-gun and much of her pro-immigration platform. There simply isn't any way for Trump to lose despite the entire Jewish community, the main stream media and much of the establishment trying to take his head off for daring to declare he would put Americans and America first. And just to be sure there was no misunderstanding, he also declared that he would remain neutral on Israel and treat it like the rest of the world. And then to add insult to injury, he had the audacity to declare that US border security and stopping illegal aliens from from pouring across the Mexican border who end up on welfare was of paramount importance to America and Americans. I mean can you believe this guy? The idea of putting America and Americans before Israel, why its treason, racism, bigotry you know all that bad stuff.. One thing is clear here. If somebody pulls a Bobby Kennedy, you can bet you life "Islamic terrorists" were NOT responsible, no matter how the paint the picture in the media.

    Replies: @Greasy William

    he also declared that he would remain neutral on Israel and treat it like the rest of the world

    He said no such thing.

    As a Jewish Trump supporter, I’m really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    6 months in to Trump’s first term and you guys will be wishing for Hillary.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Greasy William

    As a Jewish Trump supporter, I’m really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    Personally I think the best thing for Israel would be for the US to take them off the American taxpayer's tit. Israel is neither poor, nor incapable of holding its current territory and very probably Eretz Yisrael.

    Be that as it may, no sane person thinks Trump is "anti-Israel". Indeed what is left of the sane (such as it is) WN movement is quite cognizant that Trump, a man who has made his fortune in New York real estate, the Jewish capital of the universe and the capital of the Jewish universe, is in no way particularly against Jews nor is the real Jewish power structure particularly against him.

    If it were, he would have been run out of Manhattan on a rail decades ago.

    , @Glaivester
    @Greasy William

    As I understand it, what he has said is that we should be "neutral" on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but he has also said: “I have a lot of — I have tremendous love for Israel,”

    What I think that means between the lines is that he will of course support Israel, but he won't rub the Arabs' faces in it. Basically, "Of course I'm on Israel's side, but if we negotiate anything, I'll at least have to maintain the facade of neutrality, I can't publicly say 'I take Israel's side on every issue' and still have any leverage with the Arabs."

    Replies: @Greasy William

  109. @Henry Bowman
    @South Texas GUy

    Then again immigration does effect gun control in the sense we have more 3rd worlds flooding the nation and giving the dems more seats/power.

    Replies: @Glaivester

    Interestingly enough, one gun rights group got that and made an issue of it during the Gang of Eight fight: Gun Owners of America. They endorsed Cruz in the primary, hopefully they will eventually endorse Trump in the general.

  110. @Jack D
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    I assume that the Jews being kept out of WASP clubs thing is largely (if not 100%) in the past. Although it was grating, it was never really a big issue, because it was only a golf or social club and Jews could (and did) form their own anyway, where the food was much better (was it a law that WASP clubs had to serve bad food alongside the copious alcohol - couldn't they have had lots of booze AND good food?). What was NOT a joke was the fact that Jews were kept out of universities, med schools, employment by large corporations, corporate boards, etc. But much better to pretend that they were just kvetching about meaningless club memberships and never had any legitimate gripes.

    Otherwise, well said. As I mentioned in another post, I get the feeling that some people here would prefer that the Nazi racial laws would take effect here so that you would know right away whether Gina Bellafonte was or was not of Jewish blood. Gina Sara Bellafonte - YES Gina Maria Bellafonte - NO. Much easier than having to do all that googling.

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew, @Jonathan Silber

    I assume that the Jews being kept out of WASP clubs thing is largely (if not 100%) in the past. Although it was grating, it was never really a big issue, because it was only a golf or social club and Jews could (and did) form their own anyway, where the food was much better (was it a law that WASP clubs had to serve bad food alongside the copious alcohol – couldn’t they have had lots of booze AND good food?). What was NOT a joke was the fact that Jews were kept out of universities, med schools, employment by large corporations, corporate boards, etc.

    Most of the club bans and university caps originally affected German American Jews, who nonetheless leaned conservative politically. Great Wave immigrant Jews didn’t encounter those barriers until the last two or three decades before they were wound down in the 1960s simply because they were too recent and poor to know where the elite (WASP or Jewish) was socializing.

    So yes it is old news and a bit silly for any Jews under 60 to be still complaining about it. But Jews in private aren’t constantly bringing the topic up as some would have you believe.

    In reality Jewish and WASP politics have aligned very neatly, before WWII German Jews were allied with conservative WASPs. After WWII when progressive WASPs had displaced the old capitalist WASPs with the New Deal, Jews aligned their politics with WASP progressives.

  111. @Clyde
    @Anonymous


    Jewish country clubs have been hyper-exclusionary since the beginning.
     
    Because they wanted to able to tell all the good Jew jokes and good goyim jokes without outsiders hanging around. I can't blame them. And in all seriousness, those waspy clubs that excluded Jews, I am sure lots of Jew jokes were told that would not have been told had Jews been admitted.

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew

    How often do you hear Jews complain about that? That awful history of Jewish discrimination toward non-Jews?

    There’s little history of Jews persecuting non-Jews between the conversion of Rome to Christianity and their emancipation in the 19th century because the opportunity to do so didn’t really present itself.

    From the 19th century to the present one can only point to examples where Jews supported harmful policies that were also supported by greater numbers of elite gentiles.

    The evidence shows Jews were harmed far more by gentiles than the other way around.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    There’s little history of Jews persecuting non-Jews between the conversion of Rome to Christianity and their emancipation in the 19th century because the opportunity to do so didn’t really present itself.

    From the 19th century to the present one can only point to examples where Jews supported harmful policies that were also supported by greater numbers of elite gentiles.

    The evidence shows Jews were harmed far more by gentiles than the other way around.


    The Bolshevik revolution was a Jewish project with a few gentile front men.

    Steve is a pussycat and won't publish my other comment which I will reword thusly:

    *media control and mass propaganda = aggression*

    In fact it becomes a persecution network.

    We're supposed to believe that -- seizing control of major american media outlets beginning right after they landed in America -- that was all new to the Jews! Something they never did before!

    Jews targeted the garment trade because it was the cornerstone of newspaper advertising and the advertisers control the newspaper content.

    And the ingroup vs outgroup relationship simply doesn't exist in our world, children.

  112. As a Jewish Trump supporter, I’m really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    If they weren’t stupid they would have already realized that Trump having a Jewish daughter, son in law, grandchildren would make him lean in favor of Israel. Then there are other not-subtle hints of leanings such as his taking $100 million from Adelson, his criticism of the Iran deal, his years old support of Netanyahu, or allowing Jared Kushner to approve his speech to AIPAC.

    But regardless of whether they figure any of this out, it does raise the question of whether, if a cuckservative is someone who supports a pro-Israel politician , and Trump is pro-Israel, doesn’t that make the Paleocons/Altright cuckservatives (‘altcucks’?) for supporting Trump?

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    However, just how far Trump would put his lip service to AIPAC into actual White House policy is another matter entirely. While he may say he disagrees with the Iran deal, that doesn't necessarily mean he'd be ready to go to war with Iran to defend Israel. In other words when push comes to shove, how far would a Trump administration actually go to defend Israel's interests in the Middle East, especially when it doesn't directly affect American interests? Trump's main foreign policy speech so far, was labeled "America First" and not "The interests of AIPAC above all else."

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew

    , @ben tillman
    @The Undiscovered Jew


    But regardless of whether they figure any of this out, it does raise the question of whether, if a cuckservative is someone who supports a pro-Israel politician . . . .
     
    But, of course, that's not what a "cuckservative" is.
  113. @Jefferson
    Interesting observation in that if you are a foreigner who flies into The U.S for the first time and you are passing through TSA, you would think The U.S is a majority Negro nation.
    http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2016/05/a-fact-matt-drudge-wont-touch-tsa.html?m=1

    Replies: @cwhatfuture

    Most of whom stand around doing nothing except pointing very vaguely somewhere not in the direction you need to go and occasionally telling people to shut off their cell phone. Many of these employees seem to be doing absolutely nothing at all and a few do not speak understandable English. Coming into the US, with its absurdly long lines, one line to get into the useless picture taking kiosk (who had the contract for that?!), one line for someone to look at your passport, another line for customs, all while being surrounded by useless people vaguely pointing to nowhere, it fully hits you that the US is now a 3rd world country. If I can do it, when I leave Europe, I go through US immigration and customs in Dublin, that is efficient and fast and it allows me to land at a domestic gate at a US airport and pretend we are still a first world country.

  114. The media’s circling the wagons against Trump’s latest line of attack:

    Clinton shrugs, sees benefits in Trump’s personal attacks

    “I couldn’t believe it, you blame the woman for male infidelity?” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. “To me it was kind of bizarre that you would visit the sins of one on the other. I don’t think there’s any woman in America that doesn’t understand that.”

    This one is just dying to be kicked through the uprights: “Feinstein should try a career in acting. Hillary helped cover up Bill’s serial sex crimes. Hillary worked hard to destroy the reputations and assassinate the characters of Bill’s victims. Hillary stayed married to Bill despite the fact that he’s a serial sex criminal because she calculated that it would be the best thing for her political career. Now Feinstein is rolling around on the ground faking an injury as if there’s nothing more to it than Bill cheating on Hillary. It’s astounding, how these supposed feminist candidates all throw women, victims of sex crimes, under the bus. They have no principles, and the people in their party who refuse to call them out for this are cowards.”

    “It is no surprise he is running his campaign from the gutter, but Hillary Clinton doesn’t care what he says about her,” said Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon.

    Trump’s going to destroy this “rise above” schtick Hillary’s running, too: “Well of course she’s going to say she’s ‘taking the high road.’ Of course she’s going to say she’s ‘rising above.’ Of course she’s going to refuse to defend herself – she has no defense, and she knows it! There’s nothing she can say in her defense, because she’s guilty. Guilty of abetting a serial sex criminal, a rapist, guilty of abusing the victims of his crimes. It’s sad, really – sad to watch. Of course they’re going to blame me, the messenger – I’m telling Americans the truth about the Clintons. The American people deserve better than Crooked Hillary.”

    Clinton backers say she’s seen her approval ratings rise in times of trouble. Her favorability peaked in late 1998, after her husband was impeached during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. And she won over female voters in New York after Republican opponent Rick Lazio invaded her personal space during a Senate debate.

    Yeah…in 1998. That was 18 years ago. There’s been a lot of water under the bridge since then, and Hillary’s long since worn through the benefit of the doubt.

    “Hillary Clinton has been through a lot of fires in her life and her career,” said Stephanie Schriock, president of Emily’s List, a Democratic group that backs female candidates who support abortion rights.

    Yeah, like 2008, when “inevitable” Hillary got clobbered by a one-term Senator nobody had ever heard of.

  115. There’s little history of Jews persecuting non-Jews between the conversion of Rome to Christianity and their emancipation in the 19th century because the opportunity to do so didn’t really present itself.

    Well, except for the Jewish bailiffs exploiting the peasantry and squeezing them for every shekel in Poland, and, well, throughout Europe really. Little things like that. This is why Jews got kicked out of every country in Europe at least once during that period.

  116. I’ve just never seen Jews concern-troll anti-semites about insufficient anti-semitism before Trump’s campaign. I’m still adjusting, forgive me.

  117. @Lot
    If you think the Trayvon Martin Foundation was named in bad taste, I present to you Daughters of Assata:

    http://www.assatasdaughters.org/

    "We are Assata's Daughters"

    Who is Assata? Full name Assata Shakur, born JoAnne Deborah Byron. From wikipedia:

    In May 1973, Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, in which she was accused of killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and grievously assaulting Trooper James Harper.[6] BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur was also killed in the incident, and Shakur was wounded.[6] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[7]

    Shakur was incarcerated in several prisons in the 1970s. She escaped from prison in 1979 and fled to Cuba in 1984 after living as a fugitive for a few years, and received political asylum. She has been living in Cuba ever since. Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified her as a domestic terrorist and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. On May 2, 2013, the FBI added her to the Most Wanted Terrorist List; the first woman to be listed.[8] On the same day, the New Jersey Attorney General offered to match the FBI reward, increasing the total reward for her capture to $2 million.[9]
     

    Replies: @Trelane, @bomag, @Josh, @Anonymous, @ScarletNumber, @Patton

    If you are going to steal from Wikipedia at least take out the endnotes.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @ScarletNumber

    Did you miss that Lot wrote "from wikipedia"? Or is it that you think attributed quoting is "stealing"?

  118. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Son it isn’t just “us guys”.

    The reason folks in the ghetto have burglar bars on their doors and windows isn’t because they are afraid of being attacked by Mormon Missionaries and Seventh-Day Adventists.

    The reason my black wife’s 105 year old widowed granny schoolteacher kept a 12 gauge shotgun behind her back door in Nashville until the year she died wasn’t because of insurance salesmen.

    And when granny said, “Who’s there?” through that door after dark, you damn well better answer quick and not rattle the door knob trying to get in.

    Way back, three years before granny was even born, Ida B. Wells said “a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in ever black home”, and it wasn’t because of book salesmen dropping by unexpectedly.

    I just can’t figure why spoiled white boys like Tiny Duck are so anxious to get decent elderly black women robbed, raped and murdered.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Big Bill

    I just can’t figure why spoiled white boys like Tiny Duck are so anxious to get decent elderly black women robbed, raped and murdered.

    The only thing he's anxious to do is to get people to respond to his inane posts. And people keep gratifying him. "Ha ha! I made you waste five minutes of your time!" he thinks.

  119. @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I don't get the snark aimed at Warby Parker. I'm not a customer, but I give the founders credit: They started a hugely successful company, that lowered prices in an industry dominated by one manufacturer ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxottica ), and the donated lots of eyeglasses along the way (they donate one pair for every pair sold). What exactly is your problem with them, that they didn't use the founders' names as the company name?

    Replies: @Glaivester, @Skinnyhoops, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I have no problem with Warby Parker (all I know of them is what Wikipedia says). I don’t care that “Ralph Lauren” branded himself Ralph Lauren. Reread (if you must) Steve’s “Golf Nazi” post that I linked to. There are undeniable parallels between his observations of intra-Jewish competition and this story. From what I surmise, 3 out of 4 of Warby’s founders are Jewish. It appears that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish. None of that is bad per se, of course. I’m not trying to play Grand Inquisitor.

    You’ve been a commenter for a long time, so you must be familiar with iSteve themes of phantom Haven M’s, Ellis Island schmaltz, and projection/displacement—zeitgeist tics which manifest from time to time (consciously or not) to further a certain Narrative. The NYT article qualifies as a datapoint, and I noticed.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    "You’ve been a commenter for a long time, so you must be familiar with iSteve themes of phantom Haven M’s, Ellis Island schmaltz, and projection/displacement—zeitgeist tics which manifest from time to time (consciously or not) to further a certain Narrative. The NYT article qualifies as a datapoint, and I noticed."

    It only qualifies as a data point if read absurdly tendentiously. That is not "noticing" , it's inventing. It's like the story with Karl Popper and Alfred Adler.
    "The most characteristic element in this situation seemed to me the incessant stream of confirmations, of observations which “verified” the theories in question; and this point was constantly emphasized by their adherents. A Marxist could not open a newspaper without finding on every page confirming evidence for his interpretation of history; not only in the news, but also in its presentation — which revealed the class bias of the paper — and especially of course in what the paper did not say. The Freudian analysts emphasized that their theories were constantly verified by their “clinical observations.” As for Adler, I was much impressed by a personal experience. Once, in 1919, I reported to him a case which to me did not seem particularly Adlerian, but which he found no difficulty in analysing in terms of his theory of inferiority feelings, although he had not even seen the child. Slightly shocked, I asked him how he could be so sure. “Because of my thousandfold experience,” he replied; whereupon I could not help saying: “And with this new case, I suppose, your experience has become thousand-and-one-fold.”
    From Popper's 'Conjectures and Refutations' (http://denisdutton.com/popper.htm)

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  120. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    In 1938, the Nazis decreed that all Jewish men had to be named Israel and all Jewish women had to be named Sarah. If your name was say Adolph Mueller, you would henceforth become Israel Adolph Mueller. This way, all Germans would know whenever they were dealing with a Jew.

    Sometimes, I get the feeling that this law would get a lot of support from certain people on this blog.

    Replies: @SFG, @Big Bill

    We should just do like the Israelis do and put the race/religion/ethny on everybody’s ID card. Much simpler. More reliable.

    Anybody could say “my name is Isaac” or “my name is Biff”. But with your breeding records right there in black and white, laminated and issued by the government (complete with photograph?), there would be no doubt. That is truly the way to “heal the world”.

  121. @Kylie
    @iffen

    "Mrs. Clinton vowed to end the 'schools to prison pipeline' that affects black men.

    Maybe a 'schools to jobs pipeline' could hold promise."

    I think the threat of a "schools to jobs pipeline" would hold promise of revitalizing the "back to Africa" movement.

    Replies: @iffen

    Bad girl. Bad, bad girl.

  122. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    Blacks have as much right and considerably more reason to protect themselves with firearms as anyone else. Generally they are not particularly good at it but then again, how good do you have to be?

    Black criminals, like white ones, will always be able to get guns. That’s a given.

    I have no desire to disarm blacks in particular. Certainly, felons and crazies should not be allowed to own guns, but they will anyway, and blacks are disproportionately felonious at least.

  123. @gruff
    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there's one that's just a leetle more powerful.

    Replies: @Honorary Thief, @athEIst, @Corvinus, @iffen, @International Jew, @Olorin

    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful.

    AIPAC, sure. They’re so powerful they couldn’t stop Obama from facilitating Iran’s plans to nuke Israel. And they’re so smart they can’t see that importing millions more Muslims into the US will put an end to whatever influence they still have.

    And I’m sick of hearing that we are leading America by the nose — we 2% — when fully half of the the 60-70% of America that’s white Christian is actively promoting its own national suicide.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @International Jew


    And I’m sick of hearing that we are leading America by the nose — we 2% — when fully half of the the 60-70% of America that’s white Christian is actively promoting its own national suicide.
     
    That's utterly ridiculous. The contention you disclaim in the first sentence above is entirely and obviously consistent with your contention in the second, although of course it's not suicide if it results even partly from outside influence.

    By the way, only 55-58% of the US is "white Christian".
    , @gruff
    @International Jew

    Nobody said AIPAC was omnipotent. They fight hard for their interests, is all. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. It's natural.

  124. @Greasy William
    @DDearborn


    he also declared that he would remain neutral on Israel and treat it like the rest of the world
     
    He said no such thing.

    As a Jewish Trump supporter, I'm really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    6 months in to Trump's first term and you guys will be wishing for Hillary.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Glaivester

    As a Jewish Trump supporter, I’m really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    Personally I think the best thing for Israel would be for the US to take them off the American taxpayer’s tit. Israel is neither poor, nor incapable of holding its current territory and very probably Eretz Yisrael.

    Be that as it may, no sane person thinks Trump is “anti-Israel”. Indeed what is left of the sane (such as it is) WN movement is quite cognizant that Trump, a man who has made his fortune in New York real estate, the Jewish capital of the universe and the capital of the Jewish universe, is in no way particularly against Jews nor is the real Jewish power structure particularly against him.

    If it were, he would have been run out of Manhattan on a rail decades ago.

  125. @Greasy William
    @DDearborn


    he also declared that he would remain neutral on Israel and treat it like the rest of the world
     
    He said no such thing.

    As a Jewish Trump supporter, I'm really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    6 months in to Trump's first term and you guys will be wishing for Hillary.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Glaivester

    As I understand it, what he has said is that we should be “neutral” on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but he has also said: “I have a lot of — I have tremendous love for Israel,”

    What I think that means between the lines is that he will of course support Israel, but he won’t rub the Arabs’ faces in it. Basically, “Of course I’m on Israel’s side, but if we negotiate anything, I’ll at least have to maintain the facade of neutrality, I can’t publicly say ‘I take Israel’s side on every issue’ and still have any leverage with the Arabs.”

    • Replies: @Greasy William
    @Glaivester

    You're right. But his Nazi fanboys think that they are electing Pat Buchanan. They are going to be extremely disappointed with a Trump Presidency.

    Israelis love Trump. Their only concern about him is that he is anti Saudi. They know he isn't anti Israel.

  126. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    In that case, isn't this whole thing an intra-Jewish dispute? In that case, according to my understanding of Steve's POV on these kind of things, the best thing for non-Jews to do is just to buy a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show.

    My favorite optical store in NY was on the 10th floor of an old garment center type building on 34th St. - if you didn't know about it, you would never find it in a million years. The optical shop where they cut the lenses was right there. The guys who ran it totally knew their stuff. The aesthetic of the shop was early rummage sale - chipped formica counters, metal chairs with torn vinyl cushions. I think it started as the place where you could go if your union health care plan offered optical coverage.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    Nice description. There are so many of those cheesy, dusty specialist shops in Manhattan.

  127. Everybody, gun control COULD work. Here’s how to do it:

    1. Don’t let Blacks and non-White Hispanics purchase or otherwise get guns.

    2. Do a crackdown on areas with higher Black and non-White Hispanic populations.

    3. Let the cops do their jobs. This includes Stop and Frisk.

    4. Keep a tight grip on the border and carry on with mass deportations.

    There you go.

  128. @ScarletNumber
    @Lot

    If you are going to steal from Wikipedia at least take out the endnotes.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Did you miss that Lot wrote “from wikipedia”? Or is it that you think attributed quoting is “stealing”?

  129. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen

    I have no problem with Warby Parker (all I know of them is what Wikipedia says). I don’t care that “Ralph Lauren” branded himself Ralph Lauren. Reread (if you must) Steve’s “Golf Nazi” post that I linked to. There are undeniable parallels between his observations of intra-Jewish competition and this story. From what I surmise, 3 out of 4 of Warby’s founders are Jewish. It appears that Ginia Bellafante is Jewish. None of that is bad per se, of course. I’m not trying to play Grand Inquisitor.

    You’ve been a commenter for a long time, so you must be familiar with iSteve themes of phantom Haven M’s, Ellis Island schmaltz, and projection/displacement—zeitgeist tics which manifest from time to time (consciously or not) to further a certain Narrative. The NYT article qualifies as a datapoint, and I noticed.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    “You’ve been a commenter for a long time, so you must be familiar with iSteve themes of phantom Haven M’s, Ellis Island schmaltz, and projection/displacement—zeitgeist tics which manifest from time to time (consciously or not) to further a certain Narrative. The NYT article qualifies as a datapoint, and I noticed.”

    It only qualifies as a data point if read absurdly tendentiously. That is not “noticing” , it’s inventing. It’s like the story with Karl Popper and Alfred Adler.
    “The most characteristic element in this situation seemed to me the incessant stream of confirmations, of observations which “verified” the theories in question; and this point was constantly emphasized by their adherents. A Marxist could not open a newspaper without finding on every page confirming evidence for his interpretation of history; not only in the news, but also in its presentation — which revealed the class bias of the paper — and especially of course in what the paper did not say. The Freudian analysts emphasized that their theories were constantly verified by their “clinical observations.” As for Adler, I was much impressed by a personal experience. Once, in 1919, I reported to him a case which to me did not seem particularly Adlerian, but which he found no difficulty in analysing in terms of his theory of inferiority feelings, although he had not even seen the child. Slightly shocked, I asked him how he could be so sure. “Because of my thousandfold experience,” he replied; whereupon I could not help saying: “And with this new case, I suppose, your experience has become thousand-and-one-fold.”
    From Popper’s ‘Conjectures and Refutations’ (http://denisdutton.com/popper.htm)

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @kaganovitch

    You write:


    It only qualifies as a data point if read absurdly tendentiously. That is not “noticing”, it’s inventing.

    “… the incessant stream of confirmations, of observations which “verified” the theories in question …”
     
    Yes, I know what confirmation bias and bad faith arguing are. This isn’t that. Full disclosure: I’m not a Freudian analyst, either. Put aside for a moment the mystery of Ginia Bellafante’s heritage. I will concede this: Ms. Bellafante seems to be a nice enough gal. Her “Warby” article is a bit tongue-in-cheek, and self deprecating. Her mostly anodyne ‘local beat’ articles are sometimes gently un-pc, as you pointed out.

    Perhaps she has concentric “spatial” loyalties. Here she reviews intellectual property of iSteve fave Matthew Weiner:

    The account executive Pete Campbell is the consummate East Coast Republican — open-minded enough to want to reach out to black media audiences but a man who also complains about high taxes. In the penultimate episode of the series, he lands a job in Wichita, Kan., working for Lear Jet. The employer wants “a real Knickerbocker,” a patrician with breeding and connections.

    The same episode finds Don, who has been on a road trip, starting in Kansas before holing up in a motel room in Oklahoma where the locals — God-loving patriots on the surface — turn out to be malicious hicks. The tension between the kind of conservatism that Pete Campbell represents and the moralistic (in this case, hypocritically so) leanings of the rural men who eventually beat Don up is what defined Republican politics in the 1960s. And it is precisely the conflict between urban elites and culture-war conservatives that would become emblematic of the political climate in subsequent decades.

    Like so many references on “Mad Men” the dual ones to Kansas hardly seemed arbitrary. It was the tension between “Mods” and “Cons” — moderate and conservative Republicans — that Thomas Frank argued in his best-selling book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?,” was central to an understanding of the state’s politics, and by extension our national politics as well.
     
    Old: Mods and Cons. New: Cucks and Alts. Take it away, Ginia—

    To the degree that “Mad Men” has championed anything, it has been cities and the social values that even in repressive times metropolitan life is fluid enough to accommodate. It was a series in active dialogue with what the historian Richard Hofstadter called the “agrarian myth”: the notion that innocence and decency and hard work belonged to the hinterlands. On “Mad Men,” the rural world, particularly as it is conveyed through Don’s childhood, is full of false pieties and misery. The show told us that there are two Americas and that one, despite its imperfections, is clearly better.
     
    Bellafante fittingly references Richard Hofstadter, who wrote (Wikipedia):

    The application of depth psychology to politics, chancy though it is, has at least made us acutely aware that politics can be a projective arena for feelings and impulses that are only marginally related to the manifest issues.
     
    Now maybe ‘ol Hof was onto something. People often do have axes to grind, consciously or not. From his Wiki-linked book:

    Who perceives what public issues, in what way, and why? To the present generation of historical and political writers it has become increasingly clear that people not only seek their interests but also express and even in a measure define themselves in politics; that political life acts as a sounding board for identities, values, fears, and aspirations.
     
    Right. This applies to all of us. You have your affinities and suspicions. I have mine. Who’s zoomin’ who? Round and round we go.

    I’ll end by quoting you, Lazar: “It’s Steve’s world, we’re just living in it!”

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  130. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Switzerland has few (if any) blacks...Duh!

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Tina Turner resides there, and I believe Oprah visited there to buy a Gucci handbag few yrs ago but some racist behind the counter refused to sell her the most expensive handbag.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Tina Turner not only lives there but is now also a Swiss citizen, after marrying a Swiss man.

    She is no longer a U.S. citizen and does not have to pay US personal income tax; the U.S. being the only first world country that taxes its citizens even if they live in other countries.

  131. @The Undiscovered Jew
    As a Jewish Trump supporter, I’m really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    If they weren't stupid they would have already realized that Trump having a Jewish daughter, son in law, grandchildren would make him lean in favor of Israel. Then there are other not-subtle hints of leanings such as his taking $100 million from Adelson, his criticism of the Iran deal, his years old support of Netanyahu, or allowing Jared Kushner to approve his speech to AIPAC.

    But regardless of whether they figure any of this out, it does raise the question of whether, if a cuckservative is someone who supports a pro-Israel politician , and Trump is pro-Israel, doesn't that make the Paleocons/Altright cuckservatives ('altcucks'?) for supporting Trump?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @ben tillman

    However, just how far Trump would put his lip service to AIPAC into actual White House policy is another matter entirely. While he may say he disagrees with the Iran deal, that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d be ready to go to war with Iran to defend Israel. In other words when push comes to shove, how far would a Trump administration actually go to defend Israel’s interests in the Middle East, especially when it doesn’t directly affect American interests? Trump’s main foreign policy speech so far, was labeled “America First” and not “The interests of AIPAC above all else.”

    • Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    However, just how far Trump would put his lip service to AIPAC into actual White House policy is another matter entirely. While he may say he disagrees with the Iran deal, that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d be ready to go to war with Iran to defend Israel. In other words when push comes to shove, how far would a Trump administration actually go to defend Israel’s interests in the Middle East, especially when it doesn’t directly affect American interests?

    Israel can attack Iran's program with its own airforce. They had been lobbying the 'Zionist controlled' Obama administration to give them a greenlight to do so but they always had pressure come down on them to not attack.

    I'd assume Trump would at least stand out of their way when they ask for him to look the other way when they call in the attack using THEIR airforce.

    And to Svigor and the Anonymous commenter who brought up usury and the Bolshevik revolution, European nobles and clergy were also in on any deal that involved Jews loaning money to peasants. This was not necessarily a bad relationship; economic projects and artwork were funded in part by Jewish lending.

    As for the October Revolution, 80% of the early revolutionary leadership was gentile. Kropotkin, Nestor Makhno, the Iron Felix, Alexander Schliapnakov, and Viktor Nogin were not kosher.

  132. @candid_observer
    When Hillary comes out with stuff like this, one has to believe that it's only the liberal elite bubble she lives in that makes it possible. On some level, she and her advisers simply can't believe that the public isn't fully on board on these issues.

    I mean, framing gun-control as a way to combat "bigotry"? How does that even the slightest sense, unless indeed one is imagining white male bigots stalking through our land seeking out vulnerable minorities to kill? Is there even a single example of this besides George Zimmerman? She's going to stake her election prospects on the notion that we must stop the George Zimmermans of America from being able to defend themselves?

    I have to believe that someone -- maybe her husband -- might have questioned whether this was a winning strategy, but no doubt it was a man who was immediately shouted down by the women in her campaign who wanted no more mansplaining, thank you.

    Replies: @Golan Globus, @RadicalCenter

    I mean, framing gun-control as a way to combat “bigotry”? How does that even the slightest sense,

    Michael Moore made a two hour movie about this. The NRA and gun lobby are all about enabling white racists to oppress minorities, especially blacks.

    Guns are the new slavery. The campaign to ban guns is the new abolitionism.

  133. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    AIPAC, sure. They’re so powerful they couldn’t stop Obama from facilitating Iran’s plans to nuke Israel. And they’re so smart they can’t see that importing millions more Muslims into the US will put an end to whatever influence they still have.

    They haven’t made Bibi God-Emperor of the Universe, therefore not top dog.

    And I’m sick of hearing that we are leading America by the nose — we 2% — when fully half of the the 60-70% of America that’s white Christian is actively promoting its own national suicide.

    Jews are sooo much smarter and more successful than Whites, it stands to reason they’re no more successful in influencing culture and politics than whites are.

  134. @Big Bill
    @Anonymous


    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

     

    Son it isn't just "us guys".

    The reason folks in the ghetto have burglar bars on their doors and windows isn't because they are afraid of being attacked by Mormon Missionaries and Seventh-Day Adventists.

    The reason my black wife's 105 year old widowed granny schoolteacher kept a 12 gauge shotgun behind her back door in Nashville until the year she died wasn't because of insurance salesmen.

    And when granny said, "Who's there?" through that door after dark, you damn well better answer quick and not rattle the door knob trying to get in.

    Way back, three years before granny was even born, Ida B. Wells said "a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in ever black home", and it wasn't because of book salesmen dropping by unexpectedly.

    I just can't figure why spoiled white boys like Tiny Duck are so anxious to get decent elderly black women robbed, raped and murdered.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I just can’t figure why spoiled white boys like Tiny Duck are so anxious to get decent elderly black women robbed, raped and murdered.

    The only thing he’s anxious to do is to get people to respond to his inane posts. And people keep gratifying him. “Ha ha! I made you waste five minutes of your time!” he thinks.

  135. @Glaivester
    @Greasy William

    As I understand it, what he has said is that we should be "neutral" on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but he has also said: “I have a lot of — I have tremendous love for Israel,”

    What I think that means between the lines is that he will of course support Israel, but he won't rub the Arabs' faces in it. Basically, "Of course I'm on Israel's side, but if we negotiate anything, I'll at least have to maintain the facade of neutrality, I can't publicly say 'I take Israel's side on every issue' and still have any leverage with the Arabs."

    Replies: @Greasy William

    You’re right. But his Nazi fanboys think that they are electing Pat Buchanan. They are going to be extremely disappointed with a Trump Presidency.

    Israelis love Trump. Their only concern about him is that he is anti Saudi. They know he isn’t anti Israel.

  136. @Clyde
    Donald Trump dared Hillary Clinton Sunday to disarm her security detail if she means what she says about gun violence.
    "Hillary said that guns don't keep you safe," Trump tweeted. "If she really believes that she should demand that her heavily armed bodyguards quickly disarm!"
    _____
    “It’s the Bataan Death March”–Democratic White House Aide Describes the Hillary Campaign to Maureen Dowd
    _____
    Hillary=chump
    Hillary=loser and watch her lose to Trump. He will throw back any and all crap Hill and senile Bill and her out classed advisors come up with.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Donald Trump dared Hillary Clinton Sunday to disarm her security detail if she means what she says about gun violence.

    “Hillary said that guns don’t keep you safe,” Trump tweeted. “If she really believes that she should demand that her heavily armed bodyguards quickly disarm!”

    Finally someone who gets it. Gun control isn’t about guns unless the powerful are giving up their guns. Instead, it’s about control.

    Leftists — even the BLMers who imagine cops shooting Black criminals with imounity — never propose that the government be disarmed.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    @ben tillman

    "Leftists — even the BLMers who imagine cops shooting Black criminals with imounity — never propose that the government be disarmed."

    Now there's a good question for Trump to ask Black voters: "Does Hillary want police to give up their guns, or just citizens?"

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @RadicalCenter
    @ben tillman

    In EVERY debate, Trump should ask Clinton why she thinks that her life is worth more than regular Americans' lives. Ask when she is going to tell her bodyguards to get rid of their guns.

    "How many more women have to be raped, how many more people have to be mugged, for your sick ideology, Clinton?"

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  137. @Skinnyhoops
    @Dave Pinsen


    What exactly is your problem with them...?
     
    Warby Parker advertising promotes a clueless, misleading kumbaya view of vibrant diversity and miscgenation.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Warby Parker advertising promotes a clueless, misleading kumbaya view of vibrant diversity and miscgenation.

    It’s about one business venture out-competing an existing one.

    The article is blather.

    There is nothing to see here, just the free market and commercial innovation working as they should to lower prices for consumers.

    As for Warby Parker’s advertising, that just seems like blather. Actually, it’s just good, competent sales patter that knows its customers and knows how to entice them to buy. Marketing that presses socially conscious buttons has a long history. The late Bill Backer (RIP) would have been proud.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/william-backer-ad-man-behind-coke-jingle-that-taught-the-world-to-sing-dies-at-89/2016/05/17/25a6c87a-1be3-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html

  138. @Trelane
    @Lot

    What kind of name is Assata? The etymology, its history, the inferences to be drawn, its raison d'être, its meaning. The very name sounds vaguely obscene.

    And who are these daughters? And why don't we have mental hygine laws and a system of State Hospitals to detain and commit these 'daughters' for their own protection and that of others?

    Why were the inmates let out of the mental hospitals in the 1970s? Whose idea was that?

    I have many questions.

    Replies: @Bugg, @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Why were the inmates let out of the mental hospitals in the 1970s? Whose idea was that?

    It was bipartisan. The left didn’t want to lock them up, and the right didn’t want to pay for it.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  139. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    The second part was the Democratic Party’s policy for 150 years. The first part, for 200+. Keeps on tickin’.

    Black support for black disarmament is pretty much universal. They know themselves better than we do!

  140. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Clyde

    How often do you hear Jews complain about that? That awful history of Jewish discrimination toward non-Jews?

    There's little history of Jews persecuting non-Jews between the conversion of Rome to Christianity and their emancipation in the 19th century because the opportunity to do so didn't really present itself.

    From the 19th century to the present one can only point to examples where Jews supported harmful policies that were also supported by greater numbers of elite gentiles.

    The evidence shows Jews were harmed far more by gentiles than the other way around.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    There’s little history of Jews persecuting non-Jews between the conversion of Rome to Christianity and their emancipation in the 19th century because the opportunity to do so didn’t really present itself.

    From the 19th century to the present one can only point to examples where Jews supported harmful policies that were also supported by greater numbers of elite gentiles.

    The evidence shows Jews were harmed far more by gentiles than the other way around.

    The Bolshevik revolution was a Jewish project with a few gentile front men.

    Steve is a pussycat and won’t publish my other comment which I will reword thusly:

    *media control and mass propaganda = aggression*

    In fact it becomes a persecution network.

    We’re supposed to believe that — seizing control of major american media outlets beginning right after they landed in America — that was all new to the Jews! Something they never did before!

    Jews targeted the garment trade because it was the cornerstone of newspaper advertising and the advertisers control the newspaper content.

    And the ingroup vs outgroup relationship simply doesn’t exist in our world, children.

  141. @countenance
    From your "Baby Gap" essay in 2004:

    What blue-region white liberals actually want is for the government to disarm the dangerous urban minorities that threaten their children’s safety...(snip)...White liberals, angered by white conservatives’ lack of racial solidarity with them...(snip)

    I don't doubt this is true at least on some level, but I'm trying to work my mind around the political mechanics of this allegation.

    (1) When did urban white liberals ever really care about white racial solidarity in any way? If there were actually any public expression of white racial solidarity, these same urban white liberals would show up in force to protest; they call them "Anti-Fa."

    (2) I also find it amusing that a white liberal Manhattanite actually is mad that ramshackle white people in West Virginia won't let the white liberals in Manhattan disarm dangerous blacks in Harlem. Are we supposed to think that Manhattanites think that West Virginians have veto power over New York City gun laws? The Federal judiciary has gotten a lot more pro-2A in the last two decades, but that has barely impacted NYC gun laws, which white liberal Manhattanites still have at their disposal.

    Of course, I say that like I already don't know the answer, like I don't already see an analogue at work in my own back yard all the time. If I had a dollar for every time I saw, read, heard, urban officials, politicians, law enforcement, prosecutors, from St. Louis and Kansas City blame outstate voters and politicians for their supposed inability to disarm the thug blacks in their own confines and the supposed lack of laws that give them the legal latitude to do so, I could afford to live in Manhattan. However, urban politicians either directly seek votes in urban areas or work for those that do, and while black thugs hardly every vote, their grandmothers do. Meanwhile, outstate white people don't get to vote in St. Louis and Kansas City muni elections. Plus, as we all know, there's a War on Noticing Things. Therefore, instead of telling the truth and naming the Dindu, the Ook, the Africanus Bellcurvius, it's very easy to blame far way mysterious people.

    Replies: @Skinnyhoops, @ben tillman

    (1) When did urban white liberals ever really care about white racial solidarity in any way?

    Always.

    That’s the whole point of calling other Whites racist etc. It’s to get them to follow the moral rules of the White community. Non-Whites aren’t moral agents, but Whites are, and they/we are expected to follow the rules. That the rules have been dictated by a hostile ethny is beside the point.

    • Agree: Bill
  142. @Lot
    If you think the Trayvon Martin Foundation was named in bad taste, I present to you Daughters of Assata:

    http://www.assatasdaughters.org/

    "We are Assata's Daughters"

    Who is Assata? Full name Assata Shakur, born JoAnne Deborah Byron. From wikipedia:

    In May 1973, Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, in which she was accused of killing New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and grievously assaulting Trooper James Harper.[6] BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur was also killed in the incident, and Shakur was wounded.[6] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[7]

    Shakur was incarcerated in several prisons in the 1970s. She escaped from prison in 1979 and fled to Cuba in 1984 after living as a fugitive for a few years, and received political asylum. She has been living in Cuba ever since. Since May 2, 2005, the FBI has classified her as a domestic terrorist and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. On May 2, 2013, the FBI added her to the Most Wanted Terrorist List; the first woman to be listed.[8] On the same day, the New Jersey Attorney General offered to match the FBI reward, increasing the total reward for her capture to $2 million.[9]
     

    Replies: @Trelane, @bomag, @Josh, @Anonymous, @ScarletNumber, @Patton

    Assata’s Daughters look like a real bunch of peaches. Thank goodness there’s someone for a certain segment our daughters to look up to.

  143. @International Jew
    @gruff


    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful.
     
    AIPAC, sure. They're so powerful they couldn't stop Obama from facilitating Iran's plans to nuke Israel. And they're so smart they can't see that importing millions more Muslims into the US will put an end to whatever influence they still have.

    And I'm sick of hearing that we are leading America by the nose -- we 2% -- when fully half of the the 60-70% of America that's white Christian is actively promoting its own national suicide.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @gruff

    And I’m sick of hearing that we are leading America by the nose — we 2% — when fully half of the the 60-70% of America that’s white Christian is actively promoting its own national suicide.

    That’s utterly ridiculous. The contention you disclaim in the first sentence above is entirely and obviously consistent with your contention in the second, although of course it’s not suicide if it results even partly from outside influence.

    By the way, only 55-58% of the US is “white Christian”.

  144. @The Undiscovered Jew
    As a Jewish Trump supporter, I’m really going to enjoy all the WN and Paleocon tears after Trump wins the Presidency and you all realize he is every bit as pro Israel as all other administrations have been.

    If they weren't stupid they would have already realized that Trump having a Jewish daughter, son in law, grandchildren would make him lean in favor of Israel. Then there are other not-subtle hints of leanings such as his taking $100 million from Adelson, his criticism of the Iran deal, his years old support of Netanyahu, or allowing Jared Kushner to approve his speech to AIPAC.

    But regardless of whether they figure any of this out, it does raise the question of whether, if a cuckservative is someone who supports a pro-Israel politician , and Trump is pro-Israel, doesn't that make the Paleocons/Altright cuckservatives ('altcucks'?) for supporting Trump?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @ben tillman

    But regardless of whether they figure any of this out, it does raise the question of whether, if a cuckservative is someone who supports a pro-Israel politician . . . .

    But, of course, that’s not what a “cuckservative” is.

  145. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Because it doesn't exist - back in the day no WASP would have ever dreamed of applying to join a Jewish club any more than you would ever want to apply to join the Trayvon Martin Circle of Mothers.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Because it doesn’t exist – back in the day no WASP would have ever dreamed of applying to join a Jewish club any more than you would ever want to apply to join the Trayvon Martin Circle of Mothers.

    And that says everything you need to know about the relationship between the two groups. The Jews wanted what the “WASPs” had, and the feeling wasn’t mutual.

  146. @kaganovitch
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    "You’ve been a commenter for a long time, so you must be familiar with iSteve themes of phantom Haven M’s, Ellis Island schmaltz, and projection/displacement—zeitgeist tics which manifest from time to time (consciously or not) to further a certain Narrative. The NYT article qualifies as a datapoint, and I noticed."

    It only qualifies as a data point if read absurdly tendentiously. That is not "noticing" , it's inventing. It's like the story with Karl Popper and Alfred Adler.
    "The most characteristic element in this situation seemed to me the incessant stream of confirmations, of observations which “verified” the theories in question; and this point was constantly emphasized by their adherents. A Marxist could not open a newspaper without finding on every page confirming evidence for his interpretation of history; not only in the news, but also in its presentation — which revealed the class bias of the paper — and especially of course in what the paper did not say. The Freudian analysts emphasized that their theories were constantly verified by their “clinical observations.” As for Adler, I was much impressed by a personal experience. Once, in 1919, I reported to him a case which to me did not seem particularly Adlerian, but which he found no difficulty in analysing in terms of his theory of inferiority feelings, although he had not even seen the child. Slightly shocked, I asked him how he could be so sure. “Because of my thousandfold experience,” he replied; whereupon I could not help saying: “And with this new case, I suppose, your experience has become thousand-and-one-fold.”
    From Popper's 'Conjectures and Refutations' (http://denisdutton.com/popper.htm)

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You write:

    It only qualifies as a data point if read absurdly tendentiously. That is not “noticing”, it’s inventing.

    “… the incessant stream of confirmations, of observations which “verified” the theories in question …”

    Yes, I know what confirmation bias and bad faith arguing are. This isn’t that. Full disclosure: I’m not a Freudian analyst, either. Put aside for a moment the mystery of Ginia Bellafante’s heritage. I will concede this: Ms. Bellafante seems to be a nice enough gal. Her “Warby” article is a bit tongue-in-cheek, and self deprecating. Her mostly anodyne ‘local beat’ articles are sometimes gently un-pc, as you pointed out.

    Perhaps she has concentric “spatial” loyalties. Here she reviews intellectual property of iSteve fave Matthew Weiner:

    The account executive Pete Campbell is the consummate East Coast Republican — open-minded enough to want to reach out to black media audiences but a man who also complains about high taxes. In the penultimate episode of the series, he lands a job in Wichita, Kan., working for Lear Jet. The employer wants “a real Knickerbocker,” a patrician with breeding and connections.

    The same episode finds Don, who has been on a road trip, starting in Kansas before holing up in a motel room in Oklahoma where the locals — God-loving patriots on the surface — turn out to be malicious hicks. The tension between the kind of conservatism that Pete Campbell represents and the moralistic (in this case, hypocritically so) leanings of the rural men who eventually beat Don up is what defined Republican politics in the 1960s. And it is precisely the conflict between urban elites and culture-war conservatives that would become emblematic of the political climate in subsequent decades.

    Like so many references on “Mad Men” the dual ones to Kansas hardly seemed arbitrary. It was the tension between “Mods” and “Cons” — moderate and conservative Republicans — that Thomas Frank argued in his best-selling book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?,” was central to an understanding of the state’s politics, and by extension our national politics as well.

    Old: Mods and Cons. New: Cucks and Alts. Take it away, Ginia—

    To the degree that “Mad Men” has championed anything, it has been cities and the social values that even in repressive times metropolitan life is fluid enough to accommodate. It was a series in active dialogue with what the historian Richard Hofstadter called the “agrarian myth”: the notion that innocence and decency and hard work belonged to the hinterlands. On “Mad Men,” the rural world, particularly as it is conveyed through Don’s childhood, is full of false pieties and misery. The show told us that there are two Americas and that one, despite its imperfections, is clearly better.

    Bellafante fittingly references Richard Hofstadter, who wrote (Wikipedia):

    The application of depth psychology to politics, chancy though it is, has at least made us acutely aware that politics can be a projective arena for feelings and impulses that are only marginally related to the manifest issues.

    Now maybe ‘ol Hof was onto something. People often do have axes to grind, consciously or not. From his Wiki-linked book:

    Who perceives what public issues, in what way, and why? To the present generation of historical and political writers it has become increasingly clear that people not only seek their interests but also express and even in a measure define themselves in politics; that political life acts as a sounding board for identities, values, fears, and aspirations.

    Right. This applies to all of us. You have your affinities and suspicions. I have mine. Who’s zoomin’ who? Round and round we go.

    I’ll end by quoting you, Lazar: “It’s Steve’s world, we’re just living in it!”

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    OK, fair enough.

  147. @PV van der Byl
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Yes, immigrants are required to have licenses. But ordinary citizens get official approval as a matter of course.

    The SIG assault rifles (and ammunition) adult Swiss men keep at home are registered in the sense that the serial number of any issued military rifle is always associated with a particular soldier.

    That sort of registration is obviously not a prelude to confiscation. The registration advocated by "gun control" partisans is, obviously, a prelude to confiscation.

    Replies: @Nico

    The registration advocated by “gun control” partisans is, obviously, a prelude to confiscation.

    What no one ever talks about in France is that the right to bear arms and hunt was limited to the nobility but was expanded to the general citizenry as a constitutional prerogative under the First Republic. It was a constitutional guarantee until the end of the Third Republic, when under prodding of the Nazis the Pétain regime forced the citizens to surrender their weapons. Images of ordinary decent Frenchmen turning their guns in at city hall are lost even to hard-right Frenchmen of today, probably because the American occupiers wanted them to forget it, and Charles de Gaulle – who despite his many admirable qualities was still a grandiose a__hole – did nothing to remind them.

  148. @Jack D
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    I assume that the Jews being kept out of WASP clubs thing is largely (if not 100%) in the past. Although it was grating, it was never really a big issue, because it was only a golf or social club and Jews could (and did) form their own anyway, where the food was much better (was it a law that WASP clubs had to serve bad food alongside the copious alcohol - couldn't they have had lots of booze AND good food?). What was NOT a joke was the fact that Jews were kept out of universities, med schools, employment by large corporations, corporate boards, etc. But much better to pretend that they were just kvetching about meaningless club memberships and never had any legitimate gripes.

    Otherwise, well said. As I mentioned in another post, I get the feeling that some people here would prefer that the Nazi racial laws would take effect here so that you would know right away whether Gina Bellafonte was or was not of Jewish blood. Gina Sara Bellafonte - YES Gina Maria Bellafonte - NO. Much easier than having to do all that googling.

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew, @Jonathan Silber

    …Jews were kept out of universities, med schools…large corporations, corporate boards, etc.

    My father, now deceased, was Jewish and a cardiologist. Back in the forties, he’d been accepted to medical school, he told me, at Johns Hopkins, but was informed by the school, before classes started and without explanation, that his acceptance had been withdrawn. He suspected, with what if any evidence I don’t know, that the school had discovered he was Jewish.

    He went elsewhere to medical school and had a distinguished career.

  149. @ben tillman
    @Clyde


    Donald Trump dared Hillary Clinton Sunday to disarm her security detail if she means what she says about gun violence.

    “Hillary said that guns don’t keep you safe,” Trump tweeted. “If she really believes that she should demand that her heavily armed bodyguards quickly disarm!”
     

    Finally someone who gets it. Gun control isn't about guns unless the powerful are giving up their guns. Instead, it's about control.

    Leftists -- even the BLMers who imagine cops shooting Black criminals with imounity -- never propose that the government be disarmed.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @RadicalCenter

    “Leftists — even the BLMers who imagine cops shooting Black criminals with imounity — never propose that the government be disarmed.”

    Now there’s a good question for Trump to ask Black voters: “Does Hillary want police to give up their guns, or just citizens?”

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Ozymandias

    FANTASTIC IDEA. BEST ON THIS COLUMN, AT LEAST. Never thought of that, and it is a very fair question.

    Let Clinton tell black voters that they should give up their guns and let the police keep theirs.

  150. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    That is racist

    And?

  151. @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Assata supposedly means (according to Chesimard), “she who struggles” in some unknown African language. Since Chesimard (and her “daughters”) seems to be the only person on earth who bears this name, I assume that she just made it up. Prior to the 1960s, black people in America had normal American names but part of the “black power” movement was rejecting all things white – thus dashikis and afros and Kwanzaa (which seems to be fading, thank God) and non-European names. Making up “African” names out of whole cloth is harder than it sounds, especially if you are half educated, so you end up with unintentionally comical names like ASSata and Shitaveous."

    In Louisiana you have some Blacks with French last names and ghetto Negro first names, which is a weird combo.

    Names like Shaquilla Petitjean. French and the hood are definitely not a good mix when it comes to names. They don't go well together.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets

    Names like Shaquilla Petitjean. French and the hood are definitely not a good mix when it comes to names. They don’t go well together.

    Neither are medical terms. There are girls named things like Placenta, and on a different line, I know of a girl whose name is pronounced “la dash a” but written: la-a.

    There simply is no fixing what Natural Selection is prevented from eliminating.

  152. @Sutton
    Should be the "teenage 'ho birthing a bastard to prison pipeline".

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Exactly.

  153. @iffen
    Mrs. Clinton vowed to end the “schools to prison pipeline” that affects black men.

    Maybe a "schools to jobs pipeline" could hold promise.

    Replies: @Kylie, @RadicalCenter

    Wouldn’t African-American teenagers have to consistently BE in school, be quiet, and actually try to learn, for there to be a “School-to-jobs pipeline” for them?

    • Replies: @iffen
    @RadicalCenter

    Well, yes, RC, many of them do stay in school and try to learn, but there are insufficient employment for these. Another problem are the ones that you reference and they are a significant % and no one really has a handle on what to do about them. (I am sure you are fruitful with suggestions). The fact remains that if black people get jobs and form families they do reasonably well, or did, just like working class whites did before the "smart people" fucked up everything.

  154. @Anonymous
    So, basically you guys think:

    Blacks with guns=danger

    Guns held by whites=good

    That is racist

    Why do we need guns? Crime is at historic lows. Owning guns is basically stupid. Your fantasy of shooting an intruder is just that. Basically it is fear of scary Black Men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Yak-15, @antipater_1, @Kyle a, @Big Bill, @Former Darfur, @Reg Cæsar, @Bill, @RadicalCenter

    Where we live, there are far, far more scary Mexican aggressors than “scary black men.” But you keep living in your little outdated bubble and tossing snark bombs over.

    By the way, my own sister drew a gun and deterred two would-be rapists in Albuquerque NM, where she worked for many years.

    Or perhaps the two Mexican men who walked across a large almost-empty parking lot towards a woman who was by herself trying to get into her car, were just going to debate politics with her?

    She would be dead or seriously injured and permanently traumatized if she hadn’t had a gun with her that night. When they kept coming closer and ignored her command to get back and leave her alone, she drew the gun and aimed.

    They scattered like the rats they are. (though she has the training and acumen to fight and survive if they had guns or knives)

    I’ll explain to her your view that the prospect of using a gun in self-defense is a fantasy. She will be surprised to learn that, I’m sure, as would a lot of other women.

    I doubt you’ll read this and the other ample sources (some with names, locations, and reporting newspaper articles for verification), but here’s one:

    http://thewellarmedwoman.com/index.php?_route_=women-and-guns/survival-stories

  155. @Chris Mallory
    @Peter Akuleyev

    The NRA supports the restrictions we have on criminals and the mentally ill owning weapons.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    And the NRA should NOT support a ban on all felons owning firearms. Someone convicted of a non-violent felony that in no way involved the use of force, threatened use of force, physical intimidation, or a weapon, should not lose his Second Amendment rights.

  156. @Skinnyhoops
    @South Texas GUy

    Yes. Seems like harping on second aamendment rights would play really well for Trump in swing states lie PA and MI.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Perfect examples. Perhaps tip MI, PA, and Indiana back to the Republicans. We need to get gun-owners registered to vote who are not yet registered, then get them to the polls, especially in those swing States where losers McCain and Romney SHOULD have won.

  157. @candid_observer
    When Hillary comes out with stuff like this, one has to believe that it's only the liberal elite bubble she lives in that makes it possible. On some level, she and her advisers simply can't believe that the public isn't fully on board on these issues.

    I mean, framing gun-control as a way to combat "bigotry"? How does that even the slightest sense, unless indeed one is imagining white male bigots stalking through our land seeking out vulnerable minorities to kill? Is there even a single example of this besides George Zimmerman? She's going to stake her election prospects on the notion that we must stop the George Zimmermans of America from being able to defend themselves?

    I have to believe that someone -- maybe her husband -- might have questioned whether this was a winning strategy, but no doubt it was a man who was immediately shouted down by the women in her campaign who wanted no more mansplaining, thank you.

    Replies: @Golan Globus, @RadicalCenter

    So you know that Zimmerman went out looking for trouble? The incident had nothing to do with Martin casing houses to rob?

    Also, Zimmerman is half non-white, isn’t he? Funny how he becomes white when it makes whites look dangerous.

  158. @Jean Cocteausten
    Anyone who uses the term "mass incarceration" in reference to the US in the 21st century is full of mushrooms.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Why? We DON’T have a higher incarceration rate than almost every other country in the world?

  159. @Jim Don Bob
    The cops use drug offenses to put away guys they know have done more serious stuff. The can't get them on the bad stuff because of the ghetto no snitch rule. The idea that there are more than a few people in prison for smoking a joint or selling an ounce of pot does not pass the stupid test.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    There are plenty of jurisdictions that will indeed convict and throw you in prison for a small quantity of marijuana today in 2016. Ignorant, futile, and unconstitutional, but that’s the reality.

    As to federal prison, you’d be right. Anyone who is in federal prison for a drug offense typically was selling real weight, and often of something far more addictive and harmful than marijuana. Just about nobody is in federal prison for smoking a joint or possessing even several ounces of pot or several pot plants.

  160. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @kaganovitch

    You write:


    It only qualifies as a data point if read absurdly tendentiously. That is not “noticing”, it’s inventing.

    “… the incessant stream of confirmations, of observations which “verified” the theories in question …”
     
    Yes, I know what confirmation bias and bad faith arguing are. This isn’t that. Full disclosure: I’m not a Freudian analyst, either. Put aside for a moment the mystery of Ginia Bellafante’s heritage. I will concede this: Ms. Bellafante seems to be a nice enough gal. Her “Warby” article is a bit tongue-in-cheek, and self deprecating. Her mostly anodyne ‘local beat’ articles are sometimes gently un-pc, as you pointed out.

    Perhaps she has concentric “spatial” loyalties. Here she reviews intellectual property of iSteve fave Matthew Weiner:

    The account executive Pete Campbell is the consummate East Coast Republican — open-minded enough to want to reach out to black media audiences but a man who also complains about high taxes. In the penultimate episode of the series, he lands a job in Wichita, Kan., working for Lear Jet. The employer wants “a real Knickerbocker,” a patrician with breeding and connections.

    The same episode finds Don, who has been on a road trip, starting in Kansas before holing up in a motel room in Oklahoma where the locals — God-loving patriots on the surface — turn out to be malicious hicks. The tension between the kind of conservatism that Pete Campbell represents and the moralistic (in this case, hypocritically so) leanings of the rural men who eventually beat Don up is what defined Republican politics in the 1960s. And it is precisely the conflict between urban elites and culture-war conservatives that would become emblematic of the political climate in subsequent decades.

    Like so many references on “Mad Men” the dual ones to Kansas hardly seemed arbitrary. It was the tension between “Mods” and “Cons” — moderate and conservative Republicans — that Thomas Frank argued in his best-selling book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?,” was central to an understanding of the state’s politics, and by extension our national politics as well.
     
    Old: Mods and Cons. New: Cucks and Alts. Take it away, Ginia—

    To the degree that “Mad Men” has championed anything, it has been cities and the social values that even in repressive times metropolitan life is fluid enough to accommodate. It was a series in active dialogue with what the historian Richard Hofstadter called the “agrarian myth”: the notion that innocence and decency and hard work belonged to the hinterlands. On “Mad Men,” the rural world, particularly as it is conveyed through Don’s childhood, is full of false pieties and misery. The show told us that there are two Americas and that one, despite its imperfections, is clearly better.
     
    Bellafante fittingly references Richard Hofstadter, who wrote (Wikipedia):

    The application of depth psychology to politics, chancy though it is, has at least made us acutely aware that politics can be a projective arena for feelings and impulses that are only marginally related to the manifest issues.
     
    Now maybe ‘ol Hof was onto something. People often do have axes to grind, consciously or not. From his Wiki-linked book:

    Who perceives what public issues, in what way, and why? To the present generation of historical and political writers it has become increasingly clear that people not only seek their interests but also express and even in a measure define themselves in politics; that political life acts as a sounding board for identities, values, fears, and aspirations.
     
    Right. This applies to all of us. You have your affinities and suspicions. I have mine. Who’s zoomin’ who? Round and round we go.

    I’ll end by quoting you, Lazar: “It’s Steve’s world, we’re just living in it!”

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    OK, fair enough.

  161. @neutral
    @Corvinus


    Yes, the American Association for Retired People.
     
    You must be right because as we all know they can get US soldiers to wage war for them on foreign soil for old age pensioners.

    Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur

    The plan was working really great until W misspelled “Iran.” What a doofus.

  162. Between this and iStevers trying to guess whether Stephen Miller is Jewish there certainly is great difficulty in the alt-right’s ability to distinguish whites from an ethnic group that’s ‘white only when convenient’.

    Stop pigeon-holing Jews. Nobody puts baby in a corner. They’re as white as they want to be. They’re as non-white as they want to be. The way you say it, they’re not white, and that’s putting baby in a corner. Nobody does that.

    P.S., your quotes encapsulate a Jewish position. Couple days ago we had Jews saying “Jews are white” and “Jews are not white” in the same thread.

  163. @Corvinus
    @gruff

    "NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful."

    Yes, the American Association for Retired People.

    Replies: @neutral, @RadicalCenter

    As well as AIPAC/Israeli lobby and the National Education Association, no?

  164. @ben tillman
    @Clyde


    Donald Trump dared Hillary Clinton Sunday to disarm her security detail if she means what she says about gun violence.

    “Hillary said that guns don’t keep you safe,” Trump tweeted. “If she really believes that she should demand that her heavily armed bodyguards quickly disarm!”
     

    Finally someone who gets it. Gun control isn't about guns unless the powerful are giving up their guns. Instead, it's about control.

    Leftists -- even the BLMers who imagine cops shooting Black criminals with imounity -- never propose that the government be disarmed.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @RadicalCenter

    In EVERY debate, Trump should ask Clinton why she thinks that her life is worth more than regular Americans’ lives. Ask when she is going to tell her bodyguards to get rid of their guns.

    “How many more women have to be raped, how many more people have to be mugged, for your sick ideology, Clinton?”

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @RadicalCenter

    Awkward question for Hillary, you'll agree. What if Juanita Broaddrick had shot Bill as he tried to rape her? That would have nipped Hillary's political ambitions in the bud.

  165. @Ozymandias
    @ben tillman

    "Leftists — even the BLMers who imagine cops shooting Black criminals with imounity — never propose that the government be disarmed."

    Now there's a good question for Trump to ask Black voters: "Does Hillary want police to give up their guns, or just citizens?"

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    FANTASTIC IDEA. BEST ON THIS COLUMN, AT LEAST. Never thought of that, and it is a very fair question.

    Let Clinton tell black voters that they should give up their guns and let the police keep theirs.

  166. @415 reasons
    If you search a popular rap lyrics website for the keyword "choppa" there are over 2700 results. A choppa of course refers to an AK-47. I haven't read the lyrics, but I'm sure most of them are about insane rednecks gunning down black children, or perhaps about rappers valiantly defending their communities from marauding Klansmen.

    Replies: @Olorin

    Why yes!

    “AK” stands for “Anti Klansmen,” and ’47 refers of course to the year that Jackie Robinson started playing major league baseball.

    The Klan frequently rides white horses through Marilyn and Nick Mosby’s 7th District in Baltimore, and they plant the burning crosses in the broken up asphalt of the Bad ZIP Codes.

  167. ““Something is wrong when so many Americans have reason to believe”

    Well, at least she respects our stance as reason-based.

    Hillary Clinton, closet HBD supporter!

  168. @gruff
    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there's one that's just a leetle more powerful.

    Replies: @Honorary Thief, @athEIst, @Corvinus, @iffen, @International Jew, @Olorin

    I figured you meant OPEC. ;D

    • Replies: @gruff
    @Olorin

    I suspect there are a number of lobbies with more power than the NRA, though they are pretty strong. Saudis would be up there.

    Replies: @Lurker

  169. @RadicalCenter
    @ben tillman

    In EVERY debate, Trump should ask Clinton why she thinks that her life is worth more than regular Americans' lives. Ask when she is going to tell her bodyguards to get rid of their guns.

    "How many more women have to be raped, how many more people have to be mugged, for your sick ideology, Clinton?"

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Awkward question for Hillary, you’ll agree. What if Juanita Broaddrick had shot Bill as he tried to rape her? That would have nipped Hillary’s political ambitions in the bud.

  170. @Olorin
    @gruff

    I figured you meant OPEC. ;D

    Replies: @gruff

    I suspect there are a number of lobbies with more power than the NRA, though they are pretty strong. Saudis would be up there.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @gruff

    Isn't the NRA's power not just financial but that it actually represents a large number of people, people who vote and are politically engaged.

    Other lobbies can wave a lot of ca$h around but the NRA has boots on the ground.

  171. @RadicalCenter
    @iffen

    Wouldn't African-American teenagers have to consistently BE in school, be quiet, and actually try to learn, for there to be a "School-to-jobs pipeline" for them?

    Replies: @iffen

    Well, yes, RC, many of them do stay in school and try to learn, but there are insufficient employment for these. Another problem are the ones that you reference and they are a significant % and no one really has a handle on what to do about them. (I am sure you are fruitful with suggestions). The fact remains that if black people get jobs and form families they do reasonably well, or did, just like working class whites did before the “smart people” fucked up everything.

  172. @Anonymous
    The obvious riposte to the Hildebeast is, if course, Switzerland.

    By law, every adult Swiss male citizen is obligated to keep a pretty heavy caliber arsenal in his home, yet, (I wonder why?), Switzerland has but a minimal level of gun related homicides.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @BostonTea, @Chrisnonymous, @Erik L, @Anonymous, @ua2

    The right would be apoplectic if we copied Swiss Firearm laws here.

  173. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Anonymous

    Tina Turner resides there, and I believe Oprah visited there to buy a Gucci handbag few yrs ago but some racist behind the counter refused to sell her the most expensive handbag.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

    Tina Turner not only lives there but is now also a Swiss citizen, after marrying a Swiss man.

    She is no longer a U.S. citizen and does not have to pay US personal income tax; the U.S. being the only first world country that taxes its citizens even if they live in other countries.

  174. @gruff
    @Olorin

    I suspect there are a number of lobbies with more power than the NRA, though they are pretty strong. Saudis would be up there.

    Replies: @Lurker

    Isn’t the NRA’s power not just financial but that it actually represents a large number of people, people who vote and are politically engaged.

    Other lobbies can wave a lot of ca$h around but the NRA has boots on the ground.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  175. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @The Undiscovered Jew

    However, just how far Trump would put his lip service to AIPAC into actual White House policy is another matter entirely. While he may say he disagrees with the Iran deal, that doesn't necessarily mean he'd be ready to go to war with Iran to defend Israel. In other words when push comes to shove, how far would a Trump administration actually go to defend Israel's interests in the Middle East, especially when it doesn't directly affect American interests? Trump's main foreign policy speech so far, was labeled "America First" and not "The interests of AIPAC above all else."

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew

    However, just how far Trump would put his lip service to AIPAC into actual White House policy is another matter entirely. While he may say he disagrees with the Iran deal, that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d be ready to go to war with Iran to defend Israel. In other words when push comes to shove, how far would a Trump administration actually go to defend Israel’s interests in the Middle East, especially when it doesn’t directly affect American interests?

    Israel can attack Iran’s program with its own airforce. They had been lobbying the ‘Zionist controlled’ Obama administration to give them a greenlight to do so but they always had pressure come down on them to not attack.

    I’d assume Trump would at least stand out of their way when they ask for him to look the other way when they call in the attack using THEIR airforce.

    And to Svigor and the Anonymous commenter who brought up usury and the Bolshevik revolution, European nobles and clergy were also in on any deal that involved Jews loaning money to peasants. This was not necessarily a bad relationship; economic projects and artwork were funded in part by Jewish lending.

    As for the October Revolution, 80% of the early revolutionary leadership was gentile. Kropotkin, Nestor Makhno, the Iron Felix, Alexander Schliapnakov, and Viktor Nogin were not kosher.

  176. And to Svigor and the Anonymous commenter who brought up usury and the Bolshevik revolution, European nobles and clergy were also in on any deal that involved Jews loaning money to peasants. This was not necessarily a bad relationship; economic projects and artwork were funded in part by Jewish lending.

    The higher clergy, yes. One might as well encompass both groups with the term, “nobility.” The lower orders, not so much. They tended to side with the people, against the Jews. Martin Luther is a great example of both phenomena, first siding with the nobility and the Jews from his cloister, then later with the people, after he’d had some time to get out and see the world.

    Yes, Jews formed the class that farmed the peasants (i.e., exploited) on behalf of the ruling class. In some cases, they were so good at it that it become tough to tell who was actually the ruling class. This is very much parallel to the Jewish role in communism, where Jews were often brought in as a hostile elite to rule in places like Hungary. One of the big reasons for this was because (ethnocentric) Jews lacked the sympathy for the lower classes that was too often found in natives tasked for the job.

  177. And no, I wasn’t talking about loans, I was talking about bailiffs, tax farmers, exploiters whose job it was to squeeze as much tax money out of the peasants as possible.

  178. @International Jew
    @gruff


    NRA the most powerful lobby in Washington? I think there’s one that’s just a leetle more powerful.
     
    AIPAC, sure. They're so powerful they couldn't stop Obama from facilitating Iran's plans to nuke Israel. And they're so smart they can't see that importing millions more Muslims into the US will put an end to whatever influence they still have.

    And I'm sick of hearing that we are leading America by the nose -- we 2% -- when fully half of the the 60-70% of America that's white Christian is actively promoting its own national suicide.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @gruff

    Nobody said AIPAC was omnipotent. They fight hard for their interests, is all. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. It’s natural.

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