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To update Heinlein, “A depoliced society is an armed society.”
The sudden decision of The Establishment in late May 2020 to discourage the police in turn encouraged the hundreds of riots in the name of George Floyd that ensued. Depolicing also helped drive homicides up a record 30% in 2020 as the police were told to stop proactively searching so much for illegal handguns. (Although gun activists obsess over scary-looking rifles, handguns accounted for 92% of gun murders in 2020 according to FBI statistics.)
With the authorities reneging — in the name of the ill-named Black Lives Matter movement that has wound up getting so many incremental black lives murdered — on their duty to provide law and order, unsurprisingly, citizens rushed out to buy guns to defend themselves.
The sensible thing is for American to repolice to regain the confidence of the public that they won’t need to carry their own weapons.
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In the UK criminals, terrorists, politicians and the very rich (or do I repeat myself) are the only ones allowed weapons of self defence.
Please invade and liberate us.
Next will be Club and Shillelagh Control.
“The sensible thing is for American to repolice to regain the confidence of the public that they won’t need to carry their own weapons.”
Nah,
An armed society is a polite society.
Nah,
A non negro/mestizo/homo society is a peaceful society.
Ding!
Yeah, those in the nice White leafy neighborhoods can still leave the guns home, if they wish. Everywhere else, as the Government continues to spread blacks and hispanics to every little place in the land, I’d suggest we defend Amendment II, and appreciate those who carry for the defense of self and others.
Back there in the ghetto, well, there’s another saying I can bring up: “When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.” That doesn’t work out well at all for lots of decent black people.
There’s no going back to Mt. Airy (Mayberry), North Carolina, after what they’ve done.
If anything, the more militant about the second amendment, the less understanding of risk.Replies: @Dmon, @Mike Tre, @Achmed E. Newman
OT — Klaus Schwab interviewed in WSJ.
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No. Who will sign up to be a cop after what has happened? Repolicing requires acknowledgment thar this was wrong (won’t happen), punishment of the guilty (won’t happen), but most of all, recognition of the damage done to the social contract between society and cops, and a structure to prevent this from happening again.
I think my signature may be forged.
Any rational human would just serve time until his pension vests while looking the other way whenever a risky situation arises. (Look at those Uvalde cops who sat on the sidelines while an active shooter killed kids).
Now that a do-nothing culture is entrenched in law enforcement, it will probably take a decade or more to reverse. (Even if the political will to do so existed -- which it doesn't).Replies: @J.Ross
The cops broke the contract years ago, declaring war upon the American people. It is well past time to disarm the overpaid, pampered, snowflakes with badges and put them back on the leash.Replies: @J.Ross
Sorry, Steve. It’s mutual combat from here on out. “Confidence” scams are for the gullible. You’re not gullible, are you?
I don’t think the establishment is interested in our well-being very much. It may seem more sensible to them to make us miserable. No doubt they have some very compelling reasons to do so.
Nope, Boomer. Who blew up Nordstream 2? Why does no one care no one cares who blew up Nordstream 2? Why is Bibi Netanyahu back in the pink after being the target of a decade-long start-stop “corruption” investigation? Why has the Swamp (which literally stooped to pouring gas on our already-combustible relationship with Russia just to get Biden over the finish line in 2020) chosen to run the stupid “classified documents” schtick on him now after trying all last year to kneecap Trump with it? Was it because Sleepy Joe, in a rare moment of lucidity, told his string-pullers he was going to wind-down the war in Ukraine?
In any case unless the solution involved is local, highly-decentralized, and highly-decentralizing (a good start would be to break up all those media conglomerate behemoths you Boomers stupidly let congeal in the 90’s and that were instrumental in pounding the “racial reckoning” narrative into the craniums of dumb white sh!tlibs) I’ll take a pass of any more Biden Administration-led Gleichshaltung of the monopoly of violence as you can bet it will center black women instead of my own security of person and property.
One of your problems is that "Boomers" are largely responsible for the nationwide sweep of concealed carry laws, although a Silent got that ball really rolling with Florida in 1987. I might check for Heller and MacDonald except that those two rulings changed nothing on the ground for firearms outside of D.C. and Illinois since the Supreme Court completely failed to follow up on them with one very recent, very minor exception until Bruen. But the ones who decided that were half Boomers, half Gen-X.
I suspect our host's attitude problem comes from living in California, which mostly doesn't allow people to defend themselves outside their homes. He clearly doesn't carry concealed, and therefore hasn't had a chance to adjust to the attitude of being responsible at that level for your own safety while out and abroad. Thus how would he understand a very large fraction of us who do won't willingly go back to "when seconds count, the police are minutes away" no matter how much more policed wherever we are becomes. Also does not appear to realize armed citizens help keep the worst of the police in check.Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Eric Novak, @Abe
It’s more complicated than that.
It’s hard to trust the Police (Arm of the State), when they’ve been at the forefront of repression in the name of Covid, and when the State is the enemy of native-born citizens everywhere.
In France and the UK, handguns are not a big problem but apparently random knife attacks are. The Police? Well they are part of the apparatus bringing in always more criminally-minded migrants and fighting “hate crime” of the natives.
Multi-cultural society = High Crime.
There is no going back.
Elites will continue to push hard for unchecked immigration.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
It sounds like the beginning of an armed insurrection.
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The intent and aim was to rob the business, which happened.
I recall vaguely that perps were caught or at least tracked.
So while "extremists" may be blamed by the media and Dems, actual motives seem to be mainly vandalism or crime.
Some vulnerability (as in SC incident) could be stopped by hardening the targets. I.e. putting up bullet proof concrete walls or barriers to block shooters aiming at equipment.
People living in rural areas are familiar with this kind of crime.Replies: @Jack D
100% wrong, as usual.
It is as a defense against the government that the citizens’ right to bear arms is principally recognized.
Trust, once lost through betrayal, can be almost impossible to regain….Many people said that, and the police and prosecutors who betrayed the public will find out the hard way…
Well aren’t you a bundle of joy this morning.
One of your problems is that “Boomers” are largely responsible for the nationwide sweep of concealed carry laws, although a Silent got that ball really rolling with Florida in 1987. I might check for Heller and MacDonald except that those two rulings changed nothing on the ground for firearms outside of D.C. and Illinois since the Supreme Court completely failed to follow up on them with one very recent, very minor exception until Bruen. But the ones who decided that were half Boomers, half Gen-X.
I suspect our host’s attitude problem comes from living in California, which mostly doesn’t allow people to defend themselves outside their homes. He clearly doesn’t carry concealed, and therefore hasn’t had a chance to adjust to the attitude of being responsible at that level for your own safety while out and abroad. Thus how would he understand a very large fraction of us who do won’t willingly go back to “when seconds count, the police are minutes away” no matter how much more policed wherever we are becomes. Also does not appear to realize armed citizens help keep the worst of the police in check.
The Wall Street Journal in 2014 on the FERC analysis.
OTish :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64252337
How do the police train to tase? who wants to be a volunteer?
The ambulance arrived within 5 minutes......
https://www.unz.com/isteve/oaklands-version-of-the-ramparts-cop-scandal/#comment-5754944
I’d like to “back the blue” but I don’t know if there’s any way to go back and “re-police.”
The left already hates the police, and as big city police forces become more woke and more inept, trust is eroding all across the spectrum. Much of this is the fault of politicians and the “justice” system. But some heavy-handed Covid enforcement (in sharp contrast with inaction during “civil unrest”) has cost the cops a lot of goodwill — as well as a growing sense that when the shit hits the fan they’ll follow orders to simply stand down, or perhaps protect the mayor’s house but leave it up to you to protect your own business, home and family.
The old donut jokes have become far more acid observations about protecting their pensions. And even if you do respect the police, you know they can’t always protect you, just clean up society’s trash after the fact. So people want to arm themselves.
(I should add that county sheriffs are often more directly accountable to the public than appointed lesbian of color police chiefs and often do still retain some trust)
I'm at the point where I am fed up with the current model of policing altogether. Since police can no longer actually police black neighborhoods and keep the negroes under control with intensive direct authority, the cops now justify their existence by harassing normies running late to work. Normies running late to the very jobs that generate income, a portion of which the G steals and gives back to the cops.
And let's not forget that while reported carjackings doubled between 2019 and 2020, with a 50% decrease in arrests for said carjackings, police were still very busy... intimidating and arresting normies for not wearing masks at fast food restaurants and for playing at parks klosed down for kovid. All while their cities were summarily burned to the ground.
Cops have lost any and all moral, ethical, and hell even legal standing to police anything. They certainly don't police their own. They have become literal welfare recipients with guns, or willing enforcers of leftist woke dogma.Replies: @Known Fact, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
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As a white, I experience high black crime areas as unsafe spaces, harming me mentally and physically. Further, when public entertainment portrays blacks in greater quantity than in the population, that reminds me of a high crime area, which also makes me feel unsafe, harming me. And, when blacks are largely portrayed as fulsomely rich, powerful, and brilliant that makes me feel even more unsafe, imagining how much more effectively such figures would pursue criminal aims against someone like me.
Hence, for me to feel safe, black crime must be effectively deterred, and entertainment on average should portray people from affirmative action categories in the same proportions as their quantity and quality in the real population.
Like friend Achmed said, Mayberry is gone and ain’t coming back. If you want anything that resembles Mayberry ever again, you need Mayberry-era American demographics: 180 million people, at least 85% of them descended from within the Hajnal lines.
I’m actually surprised you’ve never brought up the inherent problems of scale. SCALE–Size Complexity Atomization Liberalism Elitism–means we can’t have nice things. I attribute this to your inherently courteous, optimistic nature.
Frank Wright has a Twitter and Substack and discusses scale alot.
Andy, Aunt Bea, Barney, Floyd, Howard, Goober, Gomer, Sam, Ernest T. Bass, Helen, Thelma Lou, Clara and, of course, Opie were all single.
The only married person was Otis, and he was the town drunk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CdVTCDdEwI
... it might have had something to do with the Mayberry demographic defeating the anti-Mayberry demographic by force of arms.
Strong men create good times, good times create ... etc.Replies: @Art Deco
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In the Amazon daily deals page today: an alternative historical novel by a French writer from 2021 in which Incans steal Columbus‘s ships and come to conquer Europe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/books/review/laurent-binet-civilizations.html
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/29/civilisations-by-laurent-binet-review-counterfactual-hi-jinks
As Michael Palin would say, "What a stupid concept!"
As alternative history, this is a meth adled dream
One sense I got from the sci-fi I used to ingest in huge amounts was that enforcement of a safe (but also frighteningly obedient) society would be handled not by the police or an armed public but by the “helping professions” — psychiatry, social work and medicine – and their ominous array of mind-control techniques.
Acting in concert, of course, with society’s ruling elite.
Sadly, history suggests instead that the elite experts will become increasingly tyrannical as they strive to hold on to their power. Covid, for instance.
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OT, but OK, I’m game. You tell us who blew it up. No one else seems to really know but you must have access to information that we don’t. But you have to present real evidence and not just handwaving or “who benefited”. Cui bono is not the same thing as proof.
I’ve been a Steve-reader (and fan) for 2 decades now, but his suggestion that those plucky Ukrainians must have done it was easily his all-time worst take.Replies: @Colin Wright
How about you prove it wasn't the U.S. or one of its proxies that done it. And prove it with real evidence -- not just some made-up presumption of innocence. That would be impressive.
The summer of 2020 really drove home that our rulers are fine with domestic terrorism if it achieves political goals they agree with, responsibility to maintain law and order be damned. There’s no going back from that and anyone with any common sense should understand that a) it will definitely happen again, b) if you don’t want your business or home invaded or looted, it’s up to you to have the means to prevent that, and c) you also need to have a plan for where to go if ‘b’ is not possible despite your best efforts because of a widespread and prolonged breakdown in order.
It all sounds very conspiratorial/prepper, but the ruling class got what they wanted out of 2020 – Trump lost, they increased their grip on the media, enhanced their emergency powers, developed a loose but national network of activists willing to intimidate and riot when given the opportunity, and the DIE message was adopted local governments, schools, and corporations all over the country. If any of those gains are seriously threatened, they will manufacture something to kick off another round of civil unrest.
I don't know how this ends but it either ends up with us enslaved (with no shortage of deaths among slaves deemed useless or, especially, dangerous to the regime), or with a lot of dead enslavers and their lackeys.
With the authorities reneging — in the name of the ill-named Black Lives Matter movement that has wound up getting so many incremental black lives murdered — on their duty to provide law and order, unsurprisingly, citizens rushed out to buy guns to defend themselves.
The Instapundit fellow is fond of pointing out that ultimately the police don’t exist to protect the populace from criminals, they exist to protect criminals from the populace.
On a similar note to the hands-off policing approach in 2020, the DOJ refuses to prosecute the Michael Byrd, the killer of Ashli Babbitt.
If Byrd was to stand trial, his defense would want to know who gave the order to open the doors of the Capitol, creating a chaotic security scene inside. They would also question any orders Byrd was given to station himself in the hallway ‘defending’ the glass doors where Ashli Babbitt was shot.
The entire thing stinks of a coverup.
The murder rate in Japan is 0.25/100k (vs. about 6.5 in the US recently) and the place is densely populated (about 10x the US population density) and none of them are from the Hajnal zone.
And Mayberry coexisted with Harlem and Newark, etc. where there was plenty of crime being committed by blacks and Puerto Ricans even with close to zero immigration. (Puerto Ricans are not immigrants because they are American citizens, which was a stupid idea but never mind).
With 180 million people scattered across the CONUS and no Title VII to beat the racial majority over the head with, Harlem and Newark stay Harlem and Newark and Mayberry stays Mayberry. With 330 million people and whites at 60% of the population and falling, Mayberry will never exist anywhere ever again except behind a wall of upper-six figure homes, where all the pro-immigration columnists live.
Unfortunately, the rich will burn with the rest of us.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus
……..Abe ,from his lofty perch at Swedish intelligence is schtum.
Acting in concert, of course, with society's ruling elite.Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Don Bob, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
They don’t have an ominous array of mind control techniques. They just have subjects willing to listen to them and judges willing to give orders to others on their say so.
I must amend this timeline. It wasn’t the 90s, but rather, the late 60s. I was a late-60s student at a New England very-“elite” university – – exactly when and where the racial reckoning, and the rest of the unraveling, began. Spineless, foolish students like me, and especially, spineless and foolish faculty and administrators, could have nipped it in the bud right then and there. But we chose to keep our heads down because we had too much to lose personally.
Seriously though, you are exactly right. This could have been nipped in the bud if the people
spineless liberalsin charge had had any confidence in their beliefs and acted on them.In the blue states, Democrats have responded to the Supreme Court’s decision last year against discretionary concealed carry licensing and providing a new Constitutional test for gun control by going apeshit and doubling down on gun control anywhere they can (most recently, Illinois and Washington). The lower courts are still full of judges who really won’t want to strike down gun control (an implied reason SCOTUS imposed a new test was because of a judicial revolt against the prior 2nd Amendment rulings over a decade ago, and Trump’s appointments didn’t go that deep below the appeals court level many places). Gun control is also the knee-jerk reaction to crime for liberals, allowing them to target law abiding, gun owning badwhites while leaving their numinous negroes alone. It’ll be interesting to watch the collision between SCOTUS and blue states on this.
LOL.
Yes, I’m aware Japanese are Ice People, and distinct from Vietnamese and Thais and Chinese, and determined to keep it that way.
With 180 million people scattered across the CONUS and no Title VII to beat the racial majority over the head with, Harlem and Newark stay Harlem and Newark and Mayberry stays Mayberry. With 330 million people and whites at 60% of the population and falling, Mayberry will never exist anywhere ever again except behind a wall of upper-six figure homes, where all the pro-immigration columnists live.
Unfortunately, the rich will burn with the rest of us.
richJews are doing what they are doing.I can see what they're doing, but I don't see why they're doing it. They're behaving as if the Titanic stays afloat for them even if it sinks for the rest of us.Replies: @Kim
"Unfortunately, the rich will burn with the rest of us."
So says the doormat.
The current “depolicing” initiative offers an intriguing opportunity to look at what might be called “policing federalism”, i.e. a laboratory in which different crime control techniques can compete on the basis of effectiveness. From a spate of recent incidents, it is clear that the main demographic groups in America are all developing their own methods of maintaining public order.
Scots-Irish method – Good:
https://www.wsbradio.com/news/local/armed-citizens-foil-robbery-attempt/QJZWCHZVWNEK5A6TI2YMOR74XA/
“When a customer saw 39-year-old Shawn Sutton pull a gun on the clerk at the Ideal Mart in Ellijay, he pulled his own weapon. A second customer then retrieved his gun from his vehicle to assist, and both were able to disarm Sutton. When he tried to escape, a third customer pumping gas came inside with his gun and all three were able to hold him until police arrived.”
Black method – Better:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1612547297103216642
Latino method – Best:
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2023/01/07/houston-taqueria-customer-shoots-kills-armed-robber/
They controlled your mind to say that
With 180 million people scattered across the CONUS and no Title VII to beat the racial majority over the head with, Harlem and Newark stay Harlem and Newark and Mayberry stays Mayberry. With 330 million people and whites at 60% of the population and falling, Mayberry will never exist anywhere ever again except behind a wall of upper-six figure homes, where all the pro-immigration columnists live.
Unfortunately, the rich will burn with the rest of us.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus
Maine is still 95% white and could remain 95% for decades. Any whites who seek to live among fellow whites can move to Maine to ensure it remains 95% white and have their children live in towns and go to schools which are 95% white. Such a move would increase the odds that your grandchildren will be white.
It sounds like the beginning of a fed false flag op.
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One of your problems is that "Boomers" are largely responsible for the nationwide sweep of concealed carry laws, although a Silent got that ball really rolling with Florida in 1987. I might check for Heller and MacDonald except that those two rulings changed nothing on the ground for firearms outside of D.C. and Illinois since the Supreme Court completely failed to follow up on them with one very recent, very minor exception until Bruen. But the ones who decided that were half Boomers, half Gen-X.
I suspect our host's attitude problem comes from living in California, which mostly doesn't allow people to defend themselves outside their homes. He clearly doesn't carry concealed, and therefore hasn't had a chance to adjust to the attitude of being responsible at that level for your own safety while out and abroad. Thus how would he understand a very large fraction of us who do won't willingly go back to "when seconds count, the police are minutes away" no matter how much more policed wherever we are becomes. Also does not appear to realize armed citizens help keep the worst of the police in check.Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Eric Novak, @Abe
Steve carries a double shot Derringer in the sleeve of his ruffled shirt.
Article reads like a Twitter post. Unlike many of your good ones.
For that matter, even the content seems a little light. No links to support your points (in contrast, in the past, I’ve been incredibly impressed by the quantity of high payoff links in your articles, to the point that I really thought you do something interesting/different, using the web, versus almost everyone else.
You also left out a Harry Brown reference (which I just saw, for first time, last night):
It’s worse than that. Guys who are not even close to being vested in a pension are quitting.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/police-have-had-enough/
No, you’re not game. You’re not game at all.
Acting in concert, of course, with society's ruling elite.Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Don Bob, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
There’s a theme in a lot of SciFi that increasing the “rule of experts” will lead to a society that is fair and equitable for all its citizens.
Sadly, history suggests instead that the elite experts will become increasingly tyrannical as they strive to hold on to their power. Covid, for instance.
I’ve actually disarmed since the Reverend Doctor Saint George Floyd was “murdered”.
The police and prosecutors may have pulled back from policing blacks, but they’ll certainly throw the book at any white man who dares to defend himself against a black perpetrator. Even if video evidence clearly shows self-defense against a rabid attacker (as was obviously the case in the Arbery shooting), they’ll still pull out all the stops to ensure that you die in prison.
You and most or all of us aren't police employed to save the lives of overdosing negroes. The GOPe, the US military, etc. etc. has made it very clear we are to have no role in keeping negroes from stealing or sexually assaulting people and I'm sure a lot more.
But all those are very different things than defending yourself against lethal force in an incident you did nothing to initiate, not all of the US is as pozzed as our Blue states and metro areas, nor is a case of legitimate self-defense likely to become notorious and come under the Eye of Soros like the guy in Houston who's last shot does not appear to have been in defense of self or others. You're more likely to roll snake eyes by not being armed.
There were also the Covid relief checks. For a certain demographic, the amount was just right to buy the firearm of your choice.
My daughter and I were looking at a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 clone in the pawn shop. It had apparently hardly been fired, and the clerk commented that they had been getting a whole lot of similarly unused guns, that people had got their Covid checks, blown them on guns, then when the money ran out again, pawned the gun.
My native Illinois just passed an “assault weapons” ban. Between that and the winters, I’m planning a move South.
Speaking of Mayberry, the reason Andy Griffith’s Mayberry was so peaceful and quiet was because nobody was married.
Andy, Aunt Bea, Barney, Floyd, Howard, Goober, Gomer, Sam, Ernest T. Bass, Helen, Thelma Lou, Clara and, of course, Opie were all single.
The only married person was Otis, and he was the town drunk.
With 180 million people scattered across the CONUS and no Title VII to beat the racial majority over the head with, Harlem and Newark stay Harlem and Newark and Mayberry stays Mayberry. With 330 million people and whites at 60% of the population and falling, Mayberry will never exist anywhere ever again except behind a wall of upper-six figure homes, where all the pro-immigration columnists live.
Unfortunately, the rich will burn with the rest of us.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus
That’s exactly why I can’t figure out why the
richJews are doing what they are doing.I can see what they’re doing, but I don’t see why they’re doing it. They’re behaving as if the Titanic stays afloat for them even if it sinks for the rest of us.
There’s no going back to Mt. Airy (Mayberry), North Carolina, after what they’ve done.
Fun fact: Chang and Eng Bunker both married white women in Mt. Airy and many of their descendents live in the area.
Acting in concert, of course, with society's ruling elite.Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Don Bob, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
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In the Amazon daily deals page today: an alternative historical novel by a French writer from 2021 in which Incans steal Columbus‘s ships and come to conquer Europe.
https://www.amazon.com/Civilizations-Novel-Laurent-Binet/dp/0374600813
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/books/review/laurent-binet-civilizations.html
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/29/civilisations-by-laurent-binet-review-counterfactual-hi-jinksReplies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Deadite, @mc23
…And sink, all hands lost, about 15 miles off the coast of Tierra del Fuego.
As Michael Palin would say, “What a stupid concept!”
Once again Mr. Sailer shows that he’s far too sensible to be taken seriously by any significant number of Americans. Apart from hunters and sports shooters, why would anyone invest in a lethal weapon that could be found and used by a kid or that might tempt the owner to self-slaughter on a dark night when all looks bleak? Make places safe and most people won’t even consider getting a gun.
law enforcement has foiled plots by right-wing extremists
I’m willing to look at any evidence that right-wing extremists are responsible, but it seems like the sort of thing radical environmentalists or left-wing extremists would be more likely to do.
Keep in mind that Merrick Garland’s DOJ is determined to focus on right-wing extremism to the exclusion of all else.
Speak for yourself! I was off getting high while my class mates were occupying buildings. I ask you who used his time better? 😉
Seriously though, you are exactly right. This could have been nipped in the bud if the people
spineless liberalsin charge had had any confidence in their beliefs and acted on them.“A depoliced society is an armed society.”
True indeed, however paradoxical it may seem.
Back to the future.
True enough, but no point in beating yourself up because it’s wasted energy. At least you have seen the light, whereas the rest of that bunch are now either “tenured radicals” or occupying positions of power and authority in both the public and private sector.
“The sensible thing is for American to repolice to regain the confidence of the public that they won’t need to carry their own weapons.”
I still have confidence in the police. I have confidence that the majority of them are persons of integrity. I also have confidence that the majority of them will follow orders, both explicit and implicit.
I have no confidence in the integrity of American government at any level. There may come a time when citizens do not need to carry their own weapons. There will never come a time when they do not need to own weapons for self-defense.
They are the shock troops of the government.
One of the great PR victories the cops have pulled off is they got gullible Americans to believe that they are a separate entity from the government to be revered, instead of the well-paid goons of the state that they are.
As long as there are increasing numbers of nonWhite, third-world savages in the U.S., it will be necessary for Whites to arm themselves. The Left has unleashed hordes of stupid, violent nonWhites on the U.S., and there is no way the police can protect Whites. It is highly commendable for Whites to arm themselves. Any White who doesn’t is a dreaming fool.
The Floyd riots were the best thing to happen in American history, and a vision of what REAL policing is: restorative justice by oppressed people. Every looted white-owned small business was paying their due for centuries of slavery and segregation. God Bless ANTIFA.
“I’d like to “back the blue” but I don’t know if there’s any way to go back and “re-police.””
I’m at the point where I am fed up with the current model of policing altogether. Since police can no longer actually police black neighborhoods and keep the negroes under control with intensive direct authority, the cops now justify their existence by harassing normies running late to work. Normies running late to the very jobs that generate income, a portion of which the G steals and gives back to the cops.
And let’s not forget that while reported carjackings doubled between 2019 and 2020, with a 50% decrease in arrests for said carjackings, police were still very busy… intimidating and arresting normies for not wearing masks at fast food restaurants and for playing at parks klosed down for kovid. All while their cities were summarily burned to the ground.
Cops have lost any and all moral, ethical, and hell even legal standing to police anything. They certainly don’t police their own. They have become literal welfare recipients with guns, or willing enforcers of leftist woke dogma.
If you are a lucky normie, you will only be harassed on your way to work. If you are not so lucky...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8
A lot of people believe the election was stolen and don’t believe in the legitimancy of the system anymore. I haven’t heard much about radical environmentalists using weapons. My guess is the grid attacks are by small teams with right wing and anti-Biden views.
North Carolina we don't know, but there is a claimed coincidence with a drag show. As mentioned in these comments the Washington state vandalism was done to cover a burglary. The other outside Las Vegas was an attack of Sudden Jihad Syndrome (with a car).
You may have a point about radical environmentalists and guns, but they like bombs just fine, and none of these incidents as far as I know required a high level of skill with guns.Replies: @anonymous
As I recall recently reading, about a transformer/equipment shooting in WA state somewhere, the actual motive for the shooting/power outage was to cut power to a nearby business, Which they did.
The intent and aim was to rob the business, which happened.
I recall vaguely that perps were caught or at least tracked.
So while “extremists” may be blamed by the media and Dems, actual motives seem to be mainly vandalism or crime.
Some vulnerability (as in SC incident) could be stopped by hardening the targets. I.e. putting up bullet proof concrete walls or barriers to block shooters aiming at equipment.
People living in rural areas are familiar with this kind of crime.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/south-sound-news/2-men-charged-attacks-4-pierce-county-utility-substations/GPL4RPGKFBGZBGSWPZU37WKGO4/
These two guys shot out FOUR power stations and cut power to thousands of customers and caused millions of $ of damage in order to STEAL THE CONTENT OF A CASH REGISTER. It doesn't say how much was in the register but I doubt it was more than a few hundred $. If they had taken that level of effort and persistence and used it to do something honest they probably could have made more than they stole.
Now if they had just broken in and rifled the register and gotten caught they probably would have gotten probation if it was their first offense and otherwise maybe a few months. But, "conspiracy to attack energy facilities" is a Federal crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison so now these guys are going to do really hard time.
Most disruptions to power of this type are related to crime and not terrorism. Often it is thieves (often drug addicts) trying to steal copper. Sometimes they mistake live facilities for abandoned one and the results are electrifying. But in such cases, they never commit such a crime again.
https://6abc.com/upper-merion-news-montgomery-county-suspected-thief-electrocuted-valley-forge-national-historical-park/307547/
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2018/12/would-be-thief-electrocuted-at-abandoned-power-plant-police.html
https://www.centredaily.com/news/state/pennsylvania/article270723592.html
The police are the part of the American government that carry guns.
is 30s of taser followed by 5s more taze within the SOP?
How do the police train to tase? who wants to be a volunteer?
The ambulance arrived within 5 minutes……
Ahem. Right-wing extremist tree branches.
The intent and aim was to rob the business, which happened.
I recall vaguely that perps were caught or at least tracked.
So while "extremists" may be blamed by the media and Dems, actual motives seem to be mainly vandalism or crime.
Some vulnerability (as in SC incident) could be stopped by hardening the targets. I.e. putting up bullet proof concrete walls or barriers to block shooters aiming at equipment.
People living in rural areas are familiar with this kind of crime.Replies: @Jack D
They were caught and they are proof that white criminals can be just as stupid and destructive as black ones and perhaps are even worse because they don’t get “tired” as easily as blacks.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/south-sound-news/2-men-charged-attacks-4-pierce-county-utility-substations/GPL4RPGKFBGZBGSWPZU37WKGO4/
These two guys shot out FOUR power stations and cut power to thousands of customers and caused millions of $ of damage in order to STEAL THE CONTENT OF A CASH REGISTER. It doesn’t say how much was in the register but I doubt it was more than a few hundred $. If they had taken that level of effort and persistence and used it to do something honest they probably could have made more than they stole.
Now if they had just broken in and rifled the register and gotten caught they probably would have gotten probation if it was their first offense and otherwise maybe a few months. But, “conspiracy to attack energy facilities” is a Federal crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison so now these guys are going to do really hard time.
Most disruptions to power of this type are related to crime and not terrorism. Often it is thieves (often drug addicts) trying to steal copper. Sometimes they mistake live facilities for abandoned one and the results are electrifying. But in such cases, they never commit such a crime again.
https://6abc.com/upper-merion-news-montgomery-county-suspected-thief-electrocuted-valley-forge-national-historical-park/307547/
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2018/12/would-be-thief-electrocuted-at-abandoned-power-plant-police.html
https://www.centredaily.com/news/state/pennsylvania/article270723592.html
I still have confidence in the police. I have confidence that the majority of them are persons of integrity. I also have confidence that the majority of them will follow orders, both explicit and implicit.
I have no confidence in the integrity of American government at any level. There may come a time when citizens do not need to carry their own weapons. There will never come a time when they do not need to own weapons for self-defense.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Dr. X, @Blodgie
That’s a contradiction though. If they really have integrity, they will NOT follow unConstitutional orders.
I said I have confidence that they are persons of integrity. I didn't say anything about common sense or the ability to follow a train of thought to its logical conclusion.
There are a whole lot of honest dummies out there.
“That’s a contradiction though. If they[the police] really have integrity, they will NOT follow unConstitutional orders.”
I said I have confidence that they are persons of integrity. I didn’t say anything about common sense or the ability to follow a train of thought to its logical conclusion.
There are a whole lot of honest dummies out there.
you mean motive? no, motive is irrelevant in criminal investigations. the wife is murdered. the husband is the beneficiary of her $10M life insurance policy. cui bono? oh, and the husband said he was going to kill the bitch a few weeks before her body is found. what a head scratching mystery.
So far, just as I predicted, no one has come forward with one shred of actual evidence.Replies: @Harry Baldwin
Nothing says anarchotyranny like this opening sentence from yesterday’s Wall Street Journal:
“A case before the Supreme Court challenging the liability shield protecting websites such as YouTube and Facebook could “upend the internet,” resulting in both widespread censorship and a proliferation of offensive content, Google said in a court filing Thursday.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-says-supreme-court-ruling-could-potentially-upend-the-internet-11673553968
True, a society armed with Internet access is anything but polite, as we can see in various comment sections, including this one.
Please invade and liberate us.Replies: @Skyler the Weird
They are talking Sensible Knife Control in the U.K.
Next will be Club and Shillelagh Control.
Nah,
An armed society is a polite society.
Nah,
A non negro/mestizo/homo society is a peaceful society.
Ding!Replies: @Guest007
And how would one want to achieve a non negro/mestizo/homo society? Is it even possible?
? Of course it's possible.Replies: @Guest007
Back there in the ghetto, well, there's another saying I can bring up: "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." That doesn't work out well at all for lots of decent black people.
There's no going back to Mt. Airy (Mayberry), North Carolina, after what they've done.Replies: @Guest007
The white people who carry guns the most often are the least likely to visit any place that has a significant number of blacks or Hispanics. It is hard for conservative to justify extreme measures over 25k homicides (or 75k over three years) when the same conservative claim that nothing should have been done concerning the 1.1 million deaths due to Covid-19.
If anything, the more militant about the second amendment, the less understanding of risk.
Least likely as compared to who? Rich white liberals who don't carry guns? LOL
You are off your meds buddy. Where exactly do you think white tradesmen spend most of their working hours? In shitty urban neighborhoods repairing infrastructure. I sure as hell spend more time on the south and west side of Chicago than I care to.
Besides just HAVING the ability to defend one's self, the keeping and bearing of arms, as I.D. stated, is about defense against an out-of-control government. We'll see how all that goes, but when you read the Black Book of Communism and see a number like 100,000,000 killed, it should occur to you what this is really all about.
About your 1 million dead from the Covid, per the many death certificates that state so, what's that got to do with anything here? Whether it's self defense or protection from the Kung Flu, you take care of yourself your way, and I will my way. No coercion is necessary, but that doesn't suit people like you, does it?
If cui bono isn’t enough, one need only observe the complete lack of coverage in the Anglo media and – I presume – in the media of occupied Germany. If Russia had had the most infinitesimal role in the bombing, it would still be front page news today, given the immense harm it has done to occupied Germany… Uh I mean our German allies.
It all sounds very conspiratorial/prepper, but the ruling class got what they wanted out of 2020 - Trump lost, they increased their grip on the media, enhanced their emergency powers, developed a loose but national network of activists willing to intimidate and riot when given the opportunity, and the DIE message was adopted local governments, schools, and corporations all over the country. If any of those gains are seriously threatened, they will manufacture something to kick off another round of civil unrest.Replies: @AndrewR
Great comment except I would add that you can count on the regime attempting to arrest/kill you for defending yourself or your property, especially if you are white and your “victims” are black.
I don’t know how this ends but it either ends up with us enslaved (with no shortage of deaths among slaves deemed useless or, especially, dangerous to the regime), or with a lot of dead enslavers and their lackeys.
Can I get a copy of this contract?
I think my signature may be forged.
It’s a difficult case; nobody dares to investigate.
And Putin doesn’t know that, does he?
They did include he was on cocaine well down in the article. I didn’t know “get into another person’s car without their permission” was the new euphemism for attempted grand theft auto. Assuming they are held to some sort of standard to prove police action led to his death four and half hours later while he was being treated in the hospital. Why doesn’t Cullors claim the racist doctors and nurses killed him? She might open up a new front in her ongoing financial scam.
In the Amazon daily deals page today: an alternative historical novel by a French writer from 2021 in which Incans steal Columbus‘s ships and come to conquer Europe.
https://www.amazon.com/Civilizations-Novel-Laurent-Binet/dp/0374600813
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/books/review/laurent-binet-civilizations.html
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/29/civilisations-by-laurent-binet-review-counterfactual-hi-jinksReplies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Deadite, @mc23
Oh, and where do the incans get the nails, the gunpowder, the steel, that they will need?
As alternative history, this is a meth adled dream
Well, I specifically was referring to the insane amount of corporate consolidation that was allowed to take place starting in the 90’s and is still rolling along today. In 1989 (or 1981, whatever) a book publisher or a TV network or a newspaper could still just be a book publisher (or a TV network or a newspaper) and it was weird to be part of multi-level conglomerate with several other totally unrelated businesses. Now if you’re a small imprint known for its sensitive literary fiction about multi-generational Midwestern families and you don’t have an anti-tank drone swarm maker somewhere off in your corporate org chart, well, YOU’RE the weird one!
Such decentralization and fragmentation was once immensely beneficial to our democracy as opposed to its opposite now being immensely exploitable to OUR DEMOCRACY(tm). Once upon a time a Walter Kronkite could go on-site to Saigon, see the aftermath of the Tet Offensive, declare Uncle Sam’s latest war unwinnable and- guess what!- it did become unwinnable despite any amount of resources or propaganda the central government could throw at the American people (not saying Kronkite’s assessment was correct, just pointing out the power once upon a time of a single independent journalist). Now every newspaper cub, TV cable talking head, sports commentator, etc. is totally converged, pliable, and On-Message with The Latest Thing.
If anything, the recent forced passage by the Democratic Party of the so-called “Assault Weapon” ban in Illinois now ushers in the new era of The Pritzker War Lord.
Clearly, the Assault Weapon ban exemplifies an unambiguous attack on the Unorganized Armed Militia in the State of Illinois, as spelled in the Second Amendment and in federal statute.
The takeaway from the law is to ensure that the People’s Militia of Illinois is to be relegated to obsolescent and inferior weapons so that the TPTB DO NOT FEAR YOU.
IL bans your .50 caliber because you can fight back against helicopters.
If you were a conspiracy nut you could almost point out that this something the ADL could have come up with, being that they have pushed anti-militia legislation for decades. And under a Jewish Governor, using the Jewish Chicago Northern suburbanites as political shock troops, financed with Billionaire Michael Bloomberg money, they have accomplished their long-term goal.
But really, only an awful anti-Semite would notice that.
And every looted Asian-owned business was paying their due for 150 years of using too much starch in the damn collars.
Given that it is acknowledged Boris Johnson torpedoed the Russia-Ukraine peace talks preceding the war, given the slightly abashed but also extremely nonplussed reaction of the Biden Administration right after it happened, likely it was the British (which is still like Batman being shocked, shocked, I tell you, doe something Robin did).
I’ve been a Steve-reader (and fan) for 2 decades now, but his suggestion that those plucky Ukrainians must have done it was easily his all-time worst take.
That was scripted -- and implies two things. 1. We knew this was going to happen and had already prepared our response, and (2) whoever it was who physically did it, it wasn't the Russians.
If anything, the more militant about the second amendment, the less understanding of risk.Replies: @Dmon, @Mike Tre, @Achmed E. Newman
Which way does the arrow of causality point? Maybe the places where White people carry guns are the places black criminals are least likely to ply their trade.
One of your problems is that "Boomers" are largely responsible for the nationwide sweep of concealed carry laws, although a Silent got that ball really rolling with Florida in 1987. I might check for Heller and MacDonald except that those two rulings changed nothing on the ground for firearms outside of D.C. and Illinois since the Supreme Court completely failed to follow up on them with one very recent, very minor exception until Bruen. But the ones who decided that were half Boomers, half Gen-X.
I suspect our host's attitude problem comes from living in California, which mostly doesn't allow people to defend themselves outside their homes. He clearly doesn't carry concealed, and therefore hasn't had a chance to adjust to the attitude of being responsible at that level for your own safety while out and abroad. Thus how would he understand a very large fraction of us who do won't willingly go back to "when seconds count, the police are minutes away" no matter how much more policed wherever we are becomes. Also does not appear to realize armed citizens help keep the worst of the police in check.Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Eric Novak, @Abe
Bruen has found that all Americans have the right to carry for self-defense outside their homes. New Yorkers and Californians both can carry and should carry with impunity, while their state politicians play idiotic games. They can try it in court, as fat slob billionaire swine Pritzker did in Illinois a few days ago, but no one outside of metro Chicago will pay any attention to these laws, including county sheriffs.
The only reason vaccines weren’t made mandatory for everyone ala Australia is because we have guns
Notice the USA is still closed off to foreign tourists, that’s because Americans DGAF about other people (as evidenced by the average Americans support of the Ukraine Madness)
Nothing will come out this game until serious measures are undertaken:
a) Ukraine should get enough arms to start seriously “deconstructing” Russian military capabilities inside Russia proper.
b) Western world should cease tampering with these silly sanctions & start to behave responsibly. Biden said that Saudi Arabia would be punished for obstruction of sanctions.
Nothing came of it.
Privileged bandidos like Saudi Arabia & other criminal regimes should be punished. If you don’t play- you pay.
Even if one concedes that Ukraine has the moral right to crush Russia (and that "enough arms" would enable said crushing), we have no moral obligation to help them, let alone any obligation to risk direct conflict with Russia. It's that simple.Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
One of your problems is that "Boomers" are largely responsible for the nationwide sweep of concealed carry laws, although a Silent got that ball really rolling with Florida in 1987. I might check for Heller and MacDonald except that those two rulings changed nothing on the ground for firearms outside of D.C. and Illinois since the Supreme Court completely failed to follow up on them with one very recent, very minor exception until Bruen. But the ones who decided that were half Boomers, half Gen-X.
I suspect our host's attitude problem comes from living in California, which mostly doesn't allow people to defend themselves outside their homes. He clearly doesn't carry concealed, and therefore hasn't had a chance to adjust to the attitude of being responsible at that level for your own safety while out and abroad. Thus how would he understand a very large fraction of us who do won't willingly go back to "when seconds count, the police are minutes away" no matter how much more policed wherever we are becomes. Also does not appear to realize armed citizens help keep the worst of the police in check.Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Eric Novak, @Abe
Yeah, sorry about that- and sorry to Steve too! Even my family has noticed I’ve been cranky of late. My days are completely booked now (wake up, walk the dog, put on my daily options trades, do my real job for whatever part of the business day is left, throw the remaining crumbs of my time at my family, etc.).
My main point, though, was that this is no longer your dad’s citizenist America, and with the cabal of grifters and outright criminals at the helm of this country I want no part in any centrally-coordinated “help” they might see fit to give.
The more sensible thing is to allow law abiding citizens to defend themselves against the criminals.
Stand your ground laws need to be passed and defended–this will do more than anything to stop the black mayhem.
I’ve been a Steve-reader (and fan) for 2 decades now, but his suggestion that those plucky Ukrainians must have done it was easily his all-time worst take.Replies: @Colin Wright
It’s reasonably clear to me that either we did it or somebody (Ukrainians, Poles?) did it at least with our knowledge and probably at our behest.
The Britons are possible but not especially likely. Even if they did do it, it would have been with our approval.
The clincher was the establishment media’s immediate and choreographed ‘I was the Russians — of course.’
That was scripted — and implies two things. 1. We knew this was going to happen and had already prepared our response, and (2) whoever it was who physically did it, it wasn’t the Russians.
Probably because they realize that the government isn’t even obligated to protect you, and part of being an adult is taking on personal responsibility.
Your guess for the current set of three are majority wrong, and I really wonder how you get from “stolen election” to “bring down a small part of the grid.”
North Carolina we don’t know, but there is a claimed coincidence with a drag show. As mentioned in these comments the Washington state vandalism was done to cover a burglary. The other outside Las Vegas was an attack of Sudden Jihad Syndrome (with a car).
You may have a point about radical environmentalists and guns, but they like bombs just fine, and none of these incidents as far as I know required a high level of skill with guns.
With 180 million people scattered across the CONUS and no Title VII to beat the racial majority over the head with, Harlem and Newark stay Harlem and Newark and Mayberry stays Mayberry. With 330 million people and whites at 60% of the population and falling, Mayberry will never exist anywhere ever again except behind a wall of upper-six figure homes, where all the pro-immigration columnists live.
Unfortunately, the rich will burn with the rest of us.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus
There are plenty of Mayberry’s left in America, fool.
“Unfortunately, the rich will burn with the rest of us.”
So says the doormat.
He’s her cousin and I’m the fifteenth son of Pope Francis.
Steve, it’s looking like that 6-y-o capping his teacher is morphing from a bad parent to a Bell Curve story. Like to see you cover it. INCREDIBLY, the black administrators were warned well beforehand that the sprog had a gun–and they DID NOT evacuate the school, never mind call the police or FIND THE GUN. Unbelievable!
https://nypost.com/2023/01/13/school-official-knew-boy-had-gun-before-teachers-shooting/
The police and prosecutors may have pulled back from policing blacks, but they’ll certainly throw the book at any white man who dares to defend himself against a black perpetrator. Even if video evidence clearly shows self-defense against a rabid attacker (as was obviously the case in the Arbery shooting), they’ll still pull out all the stops to ensure that you die in prison.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
We’re supposed to be impressed, or more likely demoralized by your claimed moral cowardice? Better dead than face a jury?
You and most or all of us aren’t police employed to save the lives of overdosing negroes. The GOPe, the US military, etc. etc. has made it very clear we are to have no role in keeping negroes from stealing or sexually assaulting people and I’m sure a lot more.
But all those are very different things than defending yourself against lethal force in an incident you did nothing to initiate, not all of the US is as pozzed as our Blue states and metro areas, nor is a case of legitimate self-defense likely to become notorious and come under the Eye of Soros like the guy in Houston who’s last shot does not appear to have been in defense of self or others. You’re more likely to roll snake eyes by not being armed.
Scots-Irish method - Good:
https://www.wsbradio.com/news/local/armed-citizens-foil-robbery-attempt/QJZWCHZVWNEK5A6TI2YMOR74XA/
"When a customer saw 39-year-old Shawn Sutton pull a gun on the clerk at the Ideal Mart in Ellijay, he pulled his own weapon. A second customer then retrieved his gun from his vehicle to assist, and both were able to disarm Sutton. When he tried to escape, a third customer pumping gas came inside with his gun and all three were able to hold him until police arrived."
Black method - Better:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1612547297103216642
Latino method - Best:
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2023/01/07/houston-taqueria-customer-shoots-kills-armed-robber/Replies: @AndrewR, @Jim Don Bob
I have mixed feelings about the last one. I don’t think anyone here would disagree with me saying that the death of this son of Obama is a net benefit to the world. But that last shot was… I hesitate to call it murder but certainly under the law it was.
Fiber optic communications are also very vulnerable to disruption. They can repaired or rerouted must more quickly but short term combined with electrical attacks the effect would be severe.
Four or five teams totaling no more than 15 men could probably shut down a major metropolitan area overnight. Problem is they’d be martyrs in 2 weeks. Hurts recruitment.
Notwithstanding Right wing fantasies the left has a bigger bench of activists and is much better organized if it came to terror. Progressives also have vision whereas the Trads just want to be left alone. Pretty sure Antifa types have wargamed this. The Feds recruit heavily from universities that lean progressive.
My daughter and I were looking at a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 clone in the pawn shop. It had apparently hardly been fired, and the clerk commented that they had been getting a whole lot of similarly unused guns, that people had got their Covid checks, blown them on guns, then when the money ran out again, pawned the gun.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
Yes, I think there are many classes of goods that fall into that category. People overbought them during the pandemic and are now looking to unload them to recover what value they can. This tends to soften up the market going forward. Thus, there are deflationary forces mixed in with the inflationary forces. Buyers who can be patient can pick up some really good deals. This also explains why manufacturing is in such a slump.
Your admission speaks very well of you. It also serves as a reminder that most of the present day consensus reality is pure BS, but 95% of the people in your age group are still clinging to it. Confessions like yours are small cracks in the facade that show what is waiting on the other side. I hope you find absolution and peace.
Oh hey…remember how I keep saying that I tangentially know a 75 yr old male who died of a stroke 3 days after the 2nd shot
Guess what’s on the front page of Dailymail!
Remember Hailey Beiber had a minor stroke last year also…
If anything, the more militant about the second amendment, the less understanding of risk.Replies: @Dmon, @Mike Tre, @Achmed E. Newman
“The white people who carry guns the most often are the least likely to visit any place that has a significant number of blacks or Hispanics. ”
Least likely as compared to who? Rich white liberals who don’t carry guns? LOL
You are off your meds buddy. Where exactly do you think white tradesmen spend most of their working hours? In shitty urban neighborhoods repairing infrastructure. I sure as hell spend more time on the south and west side of Chicago than I care to.
Soon to be on Dick Wolf television.
In the Amazon daily deals page today: an alternative historical novel by a French writer from 2021 in which Incans steal Columbus‘s ships and come to conquer Europe.
https://www.amazon.com/Civilizations-Novel-Laurent-Binet/dp/0374600813
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/books/review/laurent-binet-civilizations.html
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/29/civilisations-by-laurent-binet-review-counterfactual-hi-jinksReplies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Deadite, @mc23
Another fantasy piece. Loved Incans since I was a kid but they weren’t even a bronze age society. I think they had hit upon making a few bronze age pieces but that was it. They couldn’t even figure out how to operate captured Spanish muskets. If the Incan emperors hadn’t been typical power drunk despots and been able to deal with the Spanish for a few generations while preserving some autonomy perhaps they could have learned enough to become a semi-independent kingdom. Interesting to contemplate.
I'm at the point where I am fed up with the current model of policing altogether. Since police can no longer actually police black neighborhoods and keep the negroes under control with intensive direct authority, the cops now justify their existence by harassing normies running late to work. Normies running late to the very jobs that generate income, a portion of which the G steals and gives back to the cops.
And let's not forget that while reported carjackings doubled between 2019 and 2020, with a 50% decrease in arrests for said carjackings, police were still very busy... intimidating and arresting normies for not wearing masks at fast food restaurants and for playing at parks klosed down for kovid. All while their cities were summarily burned to the ground.
Cops have lost any and all moral, ethical, and hell even legal standing to police anything. They certainly don't police their own. They have become literal welfare recipients with guns, or willing enforcers of leftist woke dogma.Replies: @Known Fact, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
Yup, angrier but pretty much what I’m saying, and I think dedicated police are being undermined
Under the law it probably was. I neither carry or want to but I have an avatistic response to anyone using the threat of deadly force to carry out a crime. I feel you just signed your death warrant.
Now, what some DA or court might think is something else altogether.
No need for mixed feelings. The gentleman who goodified that jogger deserves a medal.
I’ve noticed something interesting this year with the standard Gun Control narrative (Registered guns, licensed owners, permits, etc.) being propagated on US scripted Over-The-Air television.
So far on SWAT they had some woman THINKING about purchasing a gun for self-defense and Hondo (Black bald head dude) attempting to place doubts in her mind (After all, he’s a cop and knows about guns.).
The Rookie television show had some concealed weapon holder show up at a robbery and proceeds to ignore a cop on the scene and get’s killed for his troubles.
So the new anti-gun narrative on US OTA TV is to attack the ordinary idea of lawful gun ownership and A Good Guy With a Gun.
I remember there was a hubbub when one or a few newspapers in the northeast published lists of the concealed carry permit holders in their circulation areas. It never happened to me but gun owners online claimed their doctors were asking them if they kept firearms in the house. I remember seeing a few PSAs: “Parents, ask your children’s friends’ parents if they keep guns in the house” etc.
It never really took off, I suspect because gun owners are too numerous, but it seemed to me about halfway through his administration Obama or his media/NGO surrogates tried to start a campaign to socially stigmatize gun ownership. I don’t know if anyone else remembers it that way though.Replies: @Dmon, @Harry Baldwin, @Stan Adams
Are you f–ing kidding?
The courts have ruled time and again that the police have no duty to protect you and cannot be held liable for failing to do so:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County
And you don’t seriously expect that a white girlcop engaged in an interracial gangbang with six other cops is going to protect you, do you?
https://nypost.com/2023/01/09/tennessee-cops-married-female-officer-fired-after-repeated-wild-sex-romps/
Or a cop jacking off in his wife’s fifth grade class cupcakes while he’s not making kiddie porn and having three-ways with minors?
https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/former-louisiana-deputy-gets-100-year-sentence-for-child-sex-crimes/
The best thing we can possibly do is disarm the cops and arm the public to the hilt.
My god, she looks like she could be the sister of that ghastly girlfriend of Sam Bankman-Freid.
I’ll tell you who: women. It’s a job with great benefits and is considered vital, insofar as cracking down on QAnon types who say the wrong things online. What’s even better is that the new rules of disengagement with actual violent criminals opens the door to pudgy 5-2 women who couldn’t tackle and subdue a Jack Russell terrier. They’re our first responders of the future: utterly worthless in arresting murderers and armed robbers, but very good at reading internet postings and drawing guns on eccentrics and perhaps shooting a bit too quickly because they know tackling the guy would just be an exercise in futility.
I still have confidence in the police. I have confidence that the majority of them are persons of integrity. I also have confidence that the majority of them will follow orders, both explicit and implicit.
I have no confidence in the integrity of American government at any level. There may come a time when citizens do not need to carry their own weapons. There will never come a time when they do not need to own weapons for self-defense.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Dr. X, @Blodgie
That’s a non-sequitur. Police are government agents. You get an F in Logic 101.
I have no confidence in the integrity of American government at any level."
And replied,"That’s a non-sequitur. Police are government agents. You get an F in Logic 101."
Police do not govern. To refer to them as separate from those who do is not illogical.
Police are government agents in the sense of being employed by the government. But they are not government policy-makers, which is what any reasonable person would have inferred from my phrase "government at any level".
What was the useless piece of shit doing when it got tasered?
Indeed but there’s a need to enshrine proportionate response into law and culture. This incident was jungle justice and I’m not comfortable endorsing it. Trolls and retards might say “what if the robber had another gun and had lightning fast reflexes and blah blah” but under any reasonable analysis, he posed zero threat once the gun was removed from his reach. And adrenaline is a helluva drug but it’s not an excuse for anything. A charge of voluntary manslaughter seems appropriate and that seems like an open and shut conviction. As for the sentence, reasonable people can disagree.
Get enough arms from whom?
Even if one concedes that Ukraine has the moral right to crush Russia (and that “enough arms” would enable said crushing), we have no moral obligation to help them, let alone any obligation to risk direct conflict with Russia. It’s that simple.
“Re-policing” is a bit vague and has multiple layers. Funding and staffing, for example, are all good and well. But more cops are useless if they have no incentive to take on the personal risks of actually arresting people — i.e., getting shot, going to jail, or being sued into poverty.
Any rational human would just serve time until his pension vests while looking the other way whenever a risky situation arises. (Look at those Uvalde cops who sat on the sidelines while an active shooter killed kids).
Now that a do-nothing culture is entrenched in law enforcement, it will probably take a decade or more to reverse. (Even if the political will to do so existed — which it doesn’t).
‘And how would one want to achieve a non negro/mestizo/homo society? Is it even possible?’
? Of course it’s possible.
In other words: “Tag, you’re it. It’s your burden to prove the obvious when all evidence is in the hands of the perpetrators, and common sense is not deemed admissible.”
How about you prove it wasn’t the U.S. or one of its proxies that done it. And prove it with real evidence — not just some made-up presumption of innocence. That would be impressive.
The social contract between citizens and cops is “We pay you and you enforce the law in a fair manner. ”
The cops broke the contract years ago, declaring war upon the American people. It is well past time to disarm the overpaid, pampered, snowflakes with badges and put them back on the leash.
No thanks. I am safer with every private citizen within a mile of me being armed and carrying than having a cop within 100 yards of me. Cops are at war with the American people and will treat you as the enemy for any reason or no reason. Only a man of low morals and suspect character would become a cop.
A typical cop will break his neck trying to arrest, ticket, shoot a honest man. Much less dangerous than dealing with actual criminals. Cops are at the most base level cowards. If they had any bravery they would have joined the fire dept.
Did you really call them brave?
There are basically no fires any more.
More public sector union shovel-standers who hang out at the station lifting weights, polishing their trucks and blowing each other.
Many of you still seem to think it’s 1960 out there.Replies: @Mike Tre
You quoted me (out of context) “I still have confidence in the police…
I have no confidence in the integrity of American government at any level.”
And replied,”That’s a non-sequitur. Police are government agents. You get an F in Logic 101.”
Police do not govern. To refer to them as separate from those who do is not illogical.
Police are government agents in the sense of being employed by the government. But they are not government policy-makers, which is what any reasonable person would have inferred from my phrase “government at any level”.
‘The sensible thing is for American to repolice to regain the confidence of the public that they won’t need to carry their own weapons.’
Neither one should be necessary. In a healthy society, police are virtually unknown — nor do people feel the need to go armed.
Around here — merely the usual problems afflicting white ruritania — we’re about half-way there. The police are fewer in number, and while everyone has stacks of firearms in the closet, they don’t feel a need to carry them around.
Add blacks and all that changes.
Silencing their white woke enablers would be one place to start.
I don’t usually watch videos but this posted in an adjacent thread was pretty informative, and bracing.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/oaklands-version-of-the-ramparts-cop-scandal/#comment-5754944
If anything, the more militant about the second amendment, the less understanding of risk.Replies: @Dmon, @Mike Tre, @Achmed E. Newman
You’re just not getting any of this. Whoever made you a citizen should be caned.
Besides just HAVING the ability to defend one’s self, the keeping and bearing of arms, as I.D. stated, is about defense against an out-of-control government. We’ll see how all that goes, but when you read the Black Book of Communism and see a number like 100,000,000 killed, it should occur to you what this is really all about.
About your 1 million dead from the Covid, per the many death certificates that state so, what’s that got to do with anything here? Whether it’s self defense or protection from the Kung Flu, you take care of yourself your way, and I will my way. No coercion is necessary, but that doesn’t suit people like you, does it?
Scots-Irish method - Good:
https://www.wsbradio.com/news/local/armed-citizens-foil-robbery-attempt/QJZWCHZVWNEK5A6TI2YMOR74XA/
"When a customer saw 39-year-old Shawn Sutton pull a gun on the clerk at the Ideal Mart in Ellijay, he pulled his own weapon. A second customer then retrieved his gun from his vehicle to assist, and both were able to disarm Sutton. When he tried to escape, a third customer pumping gas came inside with his gun and all three were able to hold him until police arrived."
Black method - Better:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1612547297103216642
Latino method - Best:
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2023/01/07/houston-taqueria-customer-shoots-kills-armed-robber/Replies: @AndrewR, @Jim Don Bob
I’ll take door #3, Monty.
There were a coupla environmental wackos trying to derail trains in the Pacific NW recently. The goobers are stupid outliers.
So far on SWAT they had some woman THINKING about purchasing a gun for self-defense and Hondo (Black bald head dude) attempting to place doubts in her mind (After all, he's a cop and knows about guns.).
The Rookie television show had some concealed weapon holder show up at a robbery and proceeds to ignore a cop on the scene and get's killed for his troubles.
So the new anti-gun narrative on US OTA TV is to attack the ordinary idea of lawful gun ownership and A Good Guy With a Gun.Replies: @Corn
I don’t watch those shows, but since you speak of the narrative, this reminded me of the political scene about 10–12 years ago.
I remember there was a hubbub when one or a few newspapers in the northeast published lists of the concealed carry permit holders in their circulation areas. It never happened to me but gun owners online claimed their doctors were asking them if they kept firearms in the house. I remember seeing a few PSAs: “Parents, ask your children’s friends’ parents if they keep guns in the house” etc.
It never really took off, I suspect because gun owners are too numerous, but it seemed to me about halfway through his administration Obama or his media/NGO surrogates tried to start a campaign to socially stigmatize gun ownership. I don’t know if anyone else remembers it that way though.
Even during his initial campaign, he told a private audience that we were bitterly clinging to our guns.
There were two high-profile mass shootings in 2012 - Aurora (a movie theater showing the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises) and Newtown (the Sandy Hook Elementary School). The former took place in the summer, during the lull between the primaries and the conventions; the latter, about a month after Obama's re-election.
The Sandy Hook massacre seemed so perfectly calculated to arouse public outrage and advance the Democratic gun-control agenda that it was hardly surprising so many people doubted the official narrative: A batshit-crazy kid with a gun-nut mother killed her in her sleep, then drove to an elementary school and wiped out an entire kindergarten class. News anchors wept on the air as they proclaimed with the utmost solmenity that "Enough is enough! We must stop the killing now!" Even the stoic Barack Hussein Obama was seen wiping a tear from his eye as he bemoaned the wholescale slaughter of the "beautiful children" just two weeks before Christmas.
Thus began the big push to convince Americans that unilateral disarmament was a patriotic imperative. For months on end the media bombarded the public with conxtant urgent exhortations to STOP THE KILLING NOW!
After the Dunblane and Port Arthur massacres in Scotland and Austrralia, respectively, Brits and Aussies dutifully queued up to hand their guns over to the authorities. (Interestingly, those two seminal events in the disarming of the Anglosphere occurred just a few weeks apart.) Many leftists dared to hope that, in the aftermath of Newtown, Americans would line up to do the same.
Well, they were wrong. The media and the Obama administration went all-out to convince Americans that it was time for all good men to band together, SAVE THE CHILDREN!, and ditch the guns. But the deplorable hicks kept right on clinging to their firearms with their cold, dead hands.Replies: @Art Deco, @That Would Be Telling
We are lucky they are stupid.
North Carolina we don't know, but there is a claimed coincidence with a drag show. As mentioned in these comments the Washington state vandalism was done to cover a burglary. The other outside Las Vegas was an attack of Sudden Jihad Syndrome (with a car).
You may have a point about radical environmentalists and guns, but they like bombs just fine, and none of these incidents as far as I know required a high level of skill with guns.Replies: @anonymous
“A riot is the language of the unheard” was used to justify riots and looting in 100 cities. In the mind of a right wing group attacking a substation, it is an act of social justice protesting the rigged election.
I remember there was a hubbub when one or a few newspapers in the northeast published lists of the concealed carry permit holders in their circulation areas. It never happened to me but gun owners online claimed their doctors were asking them if they kept firearms in the house. I remember seeing a few PSAs: “Parents, ask your children’s friends’ parents if they keep guns in the house” etc.
It never really took off, I suspect because gun owners are too numerous, but it seemed to me about halfway through his administration Obama or his media/NGO surrogates tried to start a campaign to socially stigmatize gun ownership. I don’t know if anyone else remembers it that way though.Replies: @Dmon, @Harry Baldwin, @Stan Adams
And let’s not forget Fast and Furious, the Obama administration black op to supply guns to drug cartels in order to get Border Patrol agents killed so they could crack down on “gun violence”. I believe Eric Holder is still under Contempt of Congress for that one, although apparently an agreement was reached whereby he was allowed to provide a substitute (Steve Bannon) to serve his sentence.
I remember there was a hubbub when one or a few newspapers in the northeast published lists of the concealed carry permit holders in their circulation areas. It never happened to me but gun owners online claimed their doctors were asking them if they kept firearms in the house. I remember seeing a few PSAs: “Parents, ask your children’s friends’ parents if they keep guns in the house” etc.
It never really took off, I suspect because gun owners are too numerous, but it seemed to me about halfway through his administration Obama or his media/NGO surrogates tried to start a campaign to socially stigmatize gun ownership. I don’t know if anyone else remembers it that way though.Replies: @Dmon, @Harry Baldwin, @Stan Adams
but it seemed to me about halfway through his administration Obama or his media/NGO surrogates tried to start a campaign to socially stigmatize gun ownership
Even during his initial campaign, he told a private audience that we were bitterly clinging to our guns.
https://i.imgur.com/QRRcMmT.jpgReplies: @Harry Baldwin
Eleanor Roosevelt used to drive herself around and carried a pistol in her glove compartment.
I remember there was a hubbub when one or a few newspapers in the northeast published lists of the concealed carry permit holders in their circulation areas. It never happened to me but gun owners online claimed their doctors were asking them if they kept firearms in the house. I remember seeing a few PSAs: “Parents, ask your children’s friends’ parents if they keep guns in the house” etc.
It never really took off, I suspect because gun owners are too numerous, but it seemed to me about halfway through his administration Obama or his media/NGO surrogates tried to start a campaign to socially stigmatize gun ownership. I don’t know if anyone else remembers it that way though.Replies: @Dmon, @Harry Baldwin, @Stan Adams
The Gabrielle Giffords shooting came shortly after the 2010 midterms, during which the Republicans captured the House and made major gains in the Senate. The perp was a schizophrenic whackjob, but that didn’t stop the media from blaming the shooting on a “climate of hate” created by “right-wing extremists” such as Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck (remember him?).
There were two high-profile mass shootings in 2012 – Aurora (a movie theater showing the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises) and Newtown (the Sandy Hook Elementary School). The former took place in the summer, during the lull between the primaries and the conventions; the latter, about a month after Obama’s re-election.
The Sandy Hook massacre seemed so perfectly calculated to arouse public outrage and advance the Democratic gun-control agenda that it was hardly surprising so many people doubted the official narrative: A batshit-crazy kid with a gun-nut mother killed her in her sleep, then drove to an elementary school and wiped out an entire kindergarten class. News anchors wept on the air as they proclaimed with the utmost solmenity that “Enough is enough! We must stop the killing now!” Even the stoic Barack Hussein Obama was seen wiping a tear from his eye as he bemoaned the wholescale slaughter of the “beautiful children” just two weeks before Christmas.
Thus began the big push to convince Americans that unilateral disarmament was a patriotic imperative. For months on end the media bombarded the public with conxtant urgent exhortations to STOP THE KILLING NOW!
After the Dunblane and Port Arthur massacres in Scotland and Austrralia, respectively, Brits and Aussies dutifully queued up to hand their guns over to the authorities. (Interestingly, those two seminal events in the disarming of the Anglosphere occurred just a few weeks apart.) Many leftists dared to hope that, in the aftermath of Newtown, Americans would line up to do the same.
Well, they were wrong. The media and the Obama administration went all-out to convince Americans that it was time for all good men to band together, SAVE THE CHILDREN!, and ditch the guns. But the deplorable hicks kept right on clinging to their firearms with their cold, dead hands.
The gun control agitation relies on motte-and-bailey games. The goal is mass confiscation of guns, which is cloaked in discussing piecemeal measures meant to make life more difficult for gun owners and people who defend themselves with guns. It's also a continuous agitprop campaign meant to stick the blame for slum crime on gun hobbyists living in the countryside, in small towns, in exurbs, and in suburbs.
Take a look at the biographies of Nelson Shields and Sarah Brady and what motivated them. Both were much more benign characters than Barack Obama or the crew who run the Democratic congressional caucus today. Everything they did was characterized by displacement of responsibility in service of their own emotional processing and what they fancied was socially acceptable. Nelson Shields lost his son to a feral character who was actually racially motivated. He could have agitated in favor of deterrence, punishment, and incapacitation of such characters. He could have agitated against the culture of recrimination in which his son's killer was marinated. Instead, he blamed inanimate objects. Sarah Brady had placed her son in the truck of a friend and discovered a short time later her son noodling around with a loaded gun he'd found in the truck. Instead of blaming the friend or blaming herself, she goes on a 20+ year campaign against gun ownership.Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Dmon
So the Democrats at the national level made a strategic withdrawal, and Obama had to pretend he was dedicated to protecting our Second Amendment right to "... and fish" (yep, he really included that along with hunting) and this lasted until he was safely reelected. Which based on a variety of things I've lately been seriously suspecting was a fraudulent election, although Romney was the worst possible candidate to put against him and anyone who doubted the Republican commitment to end Obamacare was proven correct.
Note we got less gun control in the first two years of Obama and a Democratic Congress, and more gun control in the first two years of Trump and a Republican Congress.
So with more "flexibility," including a perception the Democrats had a lock on the White House, at the national level they returned to their gun grabbing ways, the party tradition since the War Between the States. And I suspect in part are now betting the Supreme Court will have no stomach as they did after Heller and MacDonald to actually enforce the new Bruen decision, which is from their viewpoint certainly worth trying. The Federal courts have also been historically hostile to "assault weapons," something you can see even in Heller.
And, yeah, we kept clinging to our guns and ammo. Obama's election started a run on guns and ammo which lasted until Trump was elected prior to his rubbing our face into the fact he was still a gun grabbing 1970s NYC Democrat, the Deep State made all out war on him and us deplorables, and the Left made it more and more clear they wanted us all dead. Last time I checked we're still buying enough guns on Black Friday to put one in the hands of every Marine, and none of the modern Left's playbook has ever been put to the test against a population as well armed as our's.
See as a counterpose today's non-slave states continue to advance gun rights after the nationwide sweep of "shall issue" concealed carry laws ended with 42 total with ~73% of the nation's population. As of January 1st half the states have "Constitutional Carry," no permit required, four of them passed these laws in 2020.
I don’t think Russia could pull of a coordinated attack in 12 different places in the US. If Russian secret agencies allied with the Sinaloa cartel it could be possible. Any indication Russian agents have contact with the Mexican underworld? Delta Force and the Mexican Army captured El Chapo in 2016.
I still have confidence in the police. I have confidence that the majority of them are persons of integrity. I also have confidence that the majority of them will follow orders, both explicit and implicit.
I have no confidence in the integrity of American government at any level. There may come a time when citizens do not need to carry their own weapons. There will never come a time when they do not need to own weapons for self-defense.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Dr. X, @Blodgie
Erm…the police ARE the government.
They are the shock troops of the government.
One of the great PR victories the cops have pulled off is they got gullible Americans to believe that they are a separate entity from the government to be revered, instead of the well-paid goons of the state that they are.
Fire department—dangerous?
Did you really call them brave?
There are basically no fires any more.
More public sector union shovel-standers who hang out at the station lifting weights, polishing their trucks and blowing each other.
Many of you still seem to think it’s 1960 out there.
Stupid question, doc. But it calls to mind an oblique question a dentist asked me, and this one was superb. It has stuck with me over the many years. New dentist, and I was filling-out the new-patient questionnaire. The question was: “Answer true or false: For household tasks, my teeth are a handy, convenient substitute for fetching a pair of pliers, scissors, or other tool.”
Once you have pulled a gun on me, I don’t care. I want you dead. As you say, you’ve signed your own death warrant.
Now, what some DA or court might think is something else altogether.
Even if one concedes that Ukraine has the moral right to crush Russia (and that "enough arms" would enable said crushing), we have no moral obligation to help them, let alone any obligation to risk direct conflict with Russia. It's that simple.Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
It is not about moral; it is about prevention of further “adventures” of a Lebensraum -obsessed criminal country. And it is not just the US that needs to get more involved; France, Switzerland, Israel, Japan, Germany, Australia, Italy … need to do the same much, much more.
richJews are doing what they are doing.I can see what they're doing, but I don't see why they're doing it. They're behaving as if the Titanic stays afloat for them even if it sinks for the rest of us.Replies: @Kim
Bcs in a multi-ethnic society they will be safe from White Supremacists.
You know, on lots of topics, the yids are as much targets of elite propaganda as the rest of us.
For example, just consider the high rate at which jewish women are now mudsharking with negroes.
When making a new pair of moccasins, I always chew the leather for a day or two to soften it.
The cops broke the contract years ago, declaring war upon the American people. It is well past time to disarm the overpaid, pampered, snowflakes with badges and put them back on the leash.Replies: @J.Ross
You are confusing cops with the Robert Mueller FBI.
Any rational human would just serve time until his pension vests while looking the other way whenever a risky situation arises. (Look at those Uvalde cops who sat on the sidelines while an active shooter killed kids).
Now that a do-nothing culture is entrenched in law enforcement, it will probably take a decade or more to reverse. (Even if the political will to do so existed -- which it doesn't).Replies: @J.Ross
Not a great example because those were Mexicans (and it is the way of their people to not do anything, most especially when something is happening), but the overall point is solid. What Steve missed is, you gotta have a society before you have cops protecting the general public order of that society, and we actually do not live in a society, we live in a geographical accident, with total strangers to whom we owe nothing.
Infraguard. Mueller FBI getting doctors to tattle on their patients. Even before the lockdown, even before Indianization, most doctors were nothing but kindling.
? Of course it's possible.Replies: @Guest007
I’ll take that as a no, one has no idea who to achieve such a society. Does one really think that Americans would trash the Constitution to go back to some form of Jim Crow America?
The problem which arose after 1941 was that an escalating share of private actors were denied in law discretion which was properly theirs. Meanwhile, administrative agencies and judges in cahoots with lawfare scammers like Joseph Rauh managed (contrary to public opinion) to fold, spindle, and mutilate the notion of 'non-descrimination' to such an extent that it meant any measure meant to put a thumb on the scale for the preferred clientele of the Anointed. Both of these phenomena are at a variance with the principles of a free society and you can make an argument that elements of this regime are at war with constitutional provisions as well.
If we had some measure of justice, authentic anti-discrimination law would apply to the public sector, utilities and to a selection of industries (shipping, transportation, lodgings, fuel vending, food vending, medical care, and legal services) in selected circumstances. Otherwise, freedom of contract and association prevails. Also, if we had legality, federal legislation would only cover a selection of circumstances.
We do not live in that world. I'm not seeing that world emerging any time in the next several generations.Replies: @Guest007
The areas with the most guns per capita are the places with the fewest blacks such as Idaho. There is no such thing as black flight in political science but white flight has been around for more than 50 years. It is whites in the exurbs and rural areas who seem scared to death of a black man. Not the other way around.
Anyway, comment 125 by Achmed E. Newman speaks to the whole issue concisely and succinctly.Replies: @Guest007
In the country, one good reason to have a gun is for protection from the appearance of a rabid animal. That city folk choose to arm when confronted with sudden dangers shouldn’t surprise anyone.
It certainly doesn’t surprise Bart Sommers who recognizes the importance of law and order in a diverse city.
https://substack.com/redirect/2/eyJlIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGVyc3Vhc2lvbi5jb21tdW5pdHkvcC9zb21lcnM_dG9rZW49ZXlKMWMyVnlYMmxrSWpveU16RTRNRFUyTkN3aWNHOXpkRjlwWkNJNk9UWXpNalE1TURZc0ltbGhkQ0k2TVRZM016WTVOREl6TWl3aVpYaHdJam94TmpjMk1qZzJNak15TENKcGMzTWlPaUp3ZFdJdE5qRTFOemtpTENKemRXSWlPaUp3YjNOMExYSmxZV04wYVc5dUluMC4zZ3VMTmt1NmprbHZRNzZ4Y2VDeDJ2TGMyZXMza3ptLW50U2dSX2Nkd09BIiwicCI6OTYzMjQ5MDYsInMiOjYxNTc5LCJmIjp0cnVlLCJ1IjoyMzE4MDU2NCwiaWF0IjoxNjczNjk0MjMyLCJleHAiOjE2NzYyODYyMzIsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0wIiwic3ViIjoibGluay1yZWRpcmVjdCJ9.VJTg4QRMbRUPt3DDmn-y9bVK-Jq3TPqUeBUCTC6Shpc?
There were two high-profile mass shootings in 2012 - Aurora (a movie theater showing the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises) and Newtown (the Sandy Hook Elementary School). The former took place in the summer, during the lull between the primaries and the conventions; the latter, about a month after Obama's re-election.
The Sandy Hook massacre seemed so perfectly calculated to arouse public outrage and advance the Democratic gun-control agenda that it was hardly surprising so many people doubted the official narrative: A batshit-crazy kid with a gun-nut mother killed her in her sleep, then drove to an elementary school and wiped out an entire kindergarten class. News anchors wept on the air as they proclaimed with the utmost solmenity that "Enough is enough! We must stop the killing now!" Even the stoic Barack Hussein Obama was seen wiping a tear from his eye as he bemoaned the wholescale slaughter of the "beautiful children" just two weeks before Christmas.
Thus began the big push to convince Americans that unilateral disarmament was a patriotic imperative. For months on end the media bombarded the public with conxtant urgent exhortations to STOP THE KILLING NOW!
After the Dunblane and Port Arthur massacres in Scotland and Austrralia, respectively, Brits and Aussies dutifully queued up to hand their guns over to the authorities. (Interestingly, those two seminal events in the disarming of the Anglosphere occurred just a few weeks apart.) Many leftists dared to hope that, in the aftermath of Newtown, Americans would line up to do the same.
Well, they were wrong. The media and the Obama administration went all-out to convince Americans that it was time for all good men to band together, SAVE THE CHILDREN!, and ditch the guns. But the deplorable hicks kept right on clinging to their firearms with their cold, dead hands.Replies: @Art Deco, @That Would Be Telling
The ‘gun nut mother’ owned four guns, all stored in compliance with Connecticut law. She’d also taken preliminary steps to have her son civilly committed.
The gun control agitation relies on motte-and-bailey games. The goal is mass confiscation of guns, which is cloaked in discussing piecemeal measures meant to make life more difficult for gun owners and people who defend themselves with guns. It’s also a continuous agitprop campaign meant to stick the blame for slum crime on gun hobbyists living in the countryside, in small towns, in exurbs, and in suburbs.
Take a look at the biographies of Nelson Shields and Sarah Brady and what motivated them. Both were much more benign characters than Barack Obama or the crew who run the Democratic congressional caucus today. Everything they did was characterized by displacement of responsibility in service of their own emotional processing and what they fancied was socially acceptable. Nelson Shields lost his son to a feral character who was actually racially motivated. He could have agitated in favor of deterrence, punishment, and incapacitation of such characters. He could have agitated against the culture of recrimination in which his son’s killer was marinated. Instead, he blamed inanimate objects. Sarah Brady had placed her son in the truck of a friend and discovered a short time later her son noodling around with a loaded gun he’d found in the truck. Instead of blaming the friend or blaming herself, she goes on a 20+ year campaign against gun ownership.
The courts have ruled time and again that the police have no duty to protect you and cannot be held liable for failing to do so:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County
And you don't seriously expect that a white girlcop engaged in an interracial gangbang with six other cops is going to protect you, do you?
https://nypost.com/2023/01/09/tennessee-cops-married-female-officer-fired-after-repeated-wild-sex-romps/
Or a cop jacking off in his wife's fifth grade class cupcakes while he's not making kiddie porn and having three-ways with minors?
https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/former-louisiana-deputy-gets-100-year-sentence-for-child-sex-crimes/
The best thing we can possibly do is disarm the cops and arm the public to the hilt.Replies: @Mike Tre
“And you don’t seriously expect that a white girlcop engaged in an interracial gangbang with six other cops is going to protect you, do you?”
My god, she looks like she could be the sister of that ghastly girlfriend of Sam Bankman-Freid.
The last time I was at a doctor’s office, the final questions on the new patient questionnaire were about how important I considered Climate Change™ and whether I wanted to know about all the things the good doctors were doing in Its Name.
I wondered if there wasn’t some part of the AMA code of ethics that didn’t prohibit placing a political soapbox between patients and their need for medical care, though I’m sure these medicos would argue something-something-“above-politics”-blah-blah. In any case, I made a mental note that this would be my only visit there.
The gun control agitation relies on motte-and-bailey games. The goal is mass confiscation of guns, which is cloaked in discussing piecemeal measures meant to make life more difficult for gun owners and people who defend themselves with guns. It's also a continuous agitprop campaign meant to stick the blame for slum crime on gun hobbyists living in the countryside, in small towns, in exurbs, and in suburbs.
Take a look at the biographies of Nelson Shields and Sarah Brady and what motivated them. Both were much more benign characters than Barack Obama or the crew who run the Democratic congressional caucus today. Everything they did was characterized by displacement of responsibility in service of their own emotional processing and what they fancied was socially acceptable. Nelson Shields lost his son to a feral character who was actually racially motivated. He could have agitated in favor of deterrence, punishment, and incapacitation of such characters. He could have agitated against the culture of recrimination in which his son's killer was marinated. Instead, he blamed inanimate objects. Sarah Brady had placed her son in the truck of a friend and discovered a short time later her son noodling around with a loaded gun he'd found in the truck. Instead of blaming the friend or blaming herself, she goes on a 20+ year campaign against gun ownership.Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Dmon
A nearly impossible task, thanks to characters like racketeer-turned-Federal-judge David Bazelon.
Did you really call them brave?
There are basically no fires any more.
More public sector union shovel-standers who hang out at the station lifting weights, polishing their trucks and blowing each other.
Many of you still seem to think it’s 1960 out there.Replies: @Mike Tre
Fireman in the 60’s in Chicago were known to wait for the smoke to clear at a burned down home, then proceed to loot the place of any valuables such as jewelry, silverware, tools, firearms, and etc. Fireman were notorious thieves.
To call them brave is obscene. They might get around to showing up at the scene of a fire 3 times a year, where the objective is to merely contain the fire as opposed to “fighting” it. Tax dollars are used to erect literal mansions for these welfare collectors to get paid to play video games in. The public sector unions they belong to have enabled them to pocket well over 6 figures for the brave act of literally doing nothing year after year.
You want bravery? Look to the tradesman. Lineman, coal miners, operating engineers, electricians, iron workers, etc, etc, many of whom actually work in dangerous environments on a daily basis, in poor weather conditions. Fireman are some of the most spoiled and pampered government workers in existence.
Trying to remember how Mayberry got created the first time …
… it might have had something to do with the Mayberry demographic defeating the anti-Mayberry demographic by force of arms.
Strong men create good times, good times create … etc.
In the mind of Andy Griffith. The fodder was his hometown of Mount Airy, NC. The thing is, Mount Airy, NC in 1940 had an adult population which consisted largely of married men and women and had a significant black population as well (just shy of 10% of the total). Neither were to be found in Mayberry (presumably to avoid over-taxing the screenwriting staff).
There were two high-profile mass shootings in 2012 - Aurora (a movie theater showing the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises) and Newtown (the Sandy Hook Elementary School). The former took place in the summer, during the lull between the primaries and the conventions; the latter, about a month after Obama's re-election.
The Sandy Hook massacre seemed so perfectly calculated to arouse public outrage and advance the Democratic gun-control agenda that it was hardly surprising so many people doubted the official narrative: A batshit-crazy kid with a gun-nut mother killed her in her sleep, then drove to an elementary school and wiped out an entire kindergarten class. News anchors wept on the air as they proclaimed with the utmost solmenity that "Enough is enough! We must stop the killing now!" Even the stoic Barack Hussein Obama was seen wiping a tear from his eye as he bemoaned the wholescale slaughter of the "beautiful children" just two weeks before Christmas.
Thus began the big push to convince Americans that unilateral disarmament was a patriotic imperative. For months on end the media bombarded the public with conxtant urgent exhortations to STOP THE KILLING NOW!
After the Dunblane and Port Arthur massacres in Scotland and Austrralia, respectively, Brits and Aussies dutifully queued up to hand their guns over to the authorities. (Interestingly, those two seminal events in the disarming of the Anglosphere occurred just a few weeks apart.) Many leftists dared to hope that, in the aftermath of Newtown, Americans would line up to do the same.
Well, they were wrong. The media and the Obama administration went all-out to convince Americans that it was time for all good men to band together, SAVE THE CHILDREN!, and ditch the guns. But the deplorable hicks kept right on clinging to their firearms with their cold, dead hands.Replies: @Art Deco, @That Would Be Telling
As Harry Baldwin notes just above you, Obama gave us plenty of evidence before the 2008 election that he was viciously antigun. But in the ’90s through the 2000 election the Democrats suffered a string of terrible political losses due to their gun grabbing, from the Republicans gaining both houses of the Congress in 1993 to Al Gore losing in 2000, the latter wouldn’t have happened if he’d one just one more state including his theoretical home one.
So the Democrats at the national level made a strategic withdrawal, and Obama had to pretend he was dedicated to protecting our Second Amendment right to “… and fish” (yep, he really included that along with hunting) and this lasted until he was safely reelected. Which based on a variety of things I’ve lately been seriously suspecting was a fraudulent election, although Romney was the worst possible candidate to put against him and anyone who doubted the Republican commitment to end Obamacare was proven correct.
Note we got less gun control in the first two years of Obama and a Democratic Congress, and more gun control in the first two years of Trump and a Republican Congress.
So with more “flexibility,” including a perception the Democrats had a lock on the White House, at the national level they returned to their gun grabbing ways, the party tradition since the War Between the States. And I suspect in part are now betting the Supreme Court will have no stomach as they did after Heller and MacDonald to actually enforce the new Bruen decision, which is from their viewpoint certainly worth trying. The Federal courts have also been historically hostile to “assault weapons,” something you can see even in Heller.
And, yeah, we kept clinging to our guns and ammo. Obama’s election started a run on guns and ammo which lasted until Trump was elected prior to his rubbing our face into the fact he was still a gun grabbing 1970s NYC Democrat, the Deep State made all out war on him and us deplorables, and the Left made it more and more clear they wanted us all dead. Last time I checked we’re still buying enough guns on Black Friday to put one in the hands of every Marine, and none of the modern Left’s playbook has ever been put to the test against a population as well armed as our’s.
See as a counterpose today’s non-slave states continue to advance gun rights after the nationwide sweep of “shall issue” concealed carry laws ended with 42 total with ~73% of the nation’s population. As of January 1st half the states have “Constitutional Carry,” no permit required, four of them passed these laws in 2020.
“ The sudden decision of The Establishment in late May 2020 to discourage the police in turn encouraged the hundreds of riots in the name of George Floyd that ensued. Depolicing also helped drive homicides up a record 30% in 2020 as the police were told to stop proactively searching so much for illegal handguns.”
Not quite. Examples are needed, Mr, Sailer. You say you love data. Put your alleged expert pattern recognition skills to the test to bolster your case, rather than rattle your tin cup narrative.
https://elephrame.com/textbook/BLM/chart
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/
Mine the data. Clearly define terms and criteria. Establish how many BLM protests were violent and murderous, along with how and why each protest met that criteria, and how overall these protests are directly linked to the Ferguson Effect and racial reckoning.
But at least there is a tacit acknowledgement on your part that certain trends are in part being driven by your side. And here is a useful database.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
And the reality, iSteve, is that the police did NOT “back off” to arrest blacks for bad behavior.
https://www.austinmonitor.com/stories/2020/11/report-finds-racial-bias-in-2019-traffic-stops/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-chicago-police-traffic-stops-20190111-story.html
https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-sfpd-racial-profiling-traffic-stops/6422281
https://news.wosu.org/news/2019-12-19/black-drivers-and-pedestrians-most-likely-traffic-stop-targets-in-ohios-biggest-cities
Pro Publica did a big story on this. Their "analysis" wasn't that black drivers should slow down and chill out, it was that the roads were racist and need to be re-designed.
Blacks are also wildly over-represented in traffic camera tickets. Are cameras racist too?
Pro Publica did a big story on this. Their “analysis” wasn’t that black drivers should slow down and chill out, it was that the roads were racist and need to be re-designed.
Did you just make my point for me? White people move to places like Idaho because they’ve had experience living around blacks, and they go somewhere where there are lots of armed White people in case blacks try to follow them. Also, if you don’t think there is such a thing as black flight, I would direct you to the recent history of the demographics of Compton, CA.
Anyway, comment 125 by Achmed E. Newman speaks to the whole issue concisely and succinctly.
The problem with the period running from 1877 to 1971 is that various forms of discourtesy were mandated by law and the allocation of public funds was systematically unfair in those venues. Another problem was that people were denied actual civil rights (those subsisting in citizenship) by public bureaucracies or by brigands permitted to operate by public bureaucracies.
The problem which arose after 1941 was that an escalating share of private actors were denied in law discretion which was properly theirs. Meanwhile, administrative agencies and judges in cahoots with lawfare scammers like Joseph Rauh managed (contrary to public opinion) to fold, spindle, and mutilate the notion of ‘non-descrimination’ to such an extent that it meant any measure meant to put a thumb on the scale for the preferred clientele of the Anointed. Both of these phenomena are at a variance with the principles of a free society and you can make an argument that elements of this regime are at war with constitutional provisions as well.
If we had some measure of justice, authentic anti-discrimination law would apply to the public sector, utilities and to a selection of industries (shipping, transportation, lodgings, fuel vending, food vending, medical care, and legal services) in selected circumstances. Otherwise, freedom of contract and association prevails. Also, if we had legality, federal legislation would only cover a selection of circumstances.
We do not live in that world. I’m not seeing that world emerging any time in the next several generations.
What conservatives should be doing is using the laws against non-whites in the same way that non-whites use the laws against whites. The recent incident where Gov. DeSantis pointed out to the NHL that they were violating federal civil rights law at a job fair would be a good point. The lawsuit against Infosys for refusing to hire whites would be another.Replies: @Art Deco
... it might have had something to do with the Mayberry demographic defeating the anti-Mayberry demographic by force of arms.
Strong men create good times, good times create ... etc.Replies: @Art Deco
Trying to remember how Mayberry got created the first time …
In the mind of Andy Griffith. The fodder was his hometown of Mount Airy, NC. The thing is, Mount Airy, NC in 1940 had an adult population which consisted largely of married men and women and had a significant black population as well (just shy of 10% of the total). Neither were to be found in Mayberry (presumably to avoid over-taxing the screenwriting staff).
Metal detectors. In elementary schools. Because blacks.
I'm at the point where I am fed up with the current model of policing altogether. Since police can no longer actually police black neighborhoods and keep the negroes under control with intensive direct authority, the cops now justify their existence by harassing normies running late to work. Normies running late to the very jobs that generate income, a portion of which the G steals and gives back to the cops.
And let's not forget that while reported carjackings doubled between 2019 and 2020, with a 50% decrease in arrests for said carjackings, police were still very busy... intimidating and arresting normies for not wearing masks at fast food restaurants and for playing at parks klosed down for kovid. All while their cities were summarily burned to the ground.
Cops have lost any and all moral, ethical, and hell even legal standing to police anything. They certainly don't police their own. They have become literal welfare recipients with guns, or willing enforcers of leftist woke dogma.Replies: @Known Fact, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
Since police can no longer actually police black neighborhoods and keep the negroes under control with intensive direct authority, the cops now justify their existence by harassing normies running late to work.
If you are a lucky normie, you will only be harassed on your way to work. If you are not so lucky…
Liaisions between Jewish women and black men are considered a small price to pay for American society becoming mixed to the point where majority populism is not possible.
LOL because that one hits home. I can’t strip wire with them like I used to.
The gun control agitation relies on motte-and-bailey games. The goal is mass confiscation of guns, which is cloaked in discussing piecemeal measures meant to make life more difficult for gun owners and people who defend themselves with guns. It's also a continuous agitprop campaign meant to stick the blame for slum crime on gun hobbyists living in the countryside, in small towns, in exurbs, and in suburbs.
Take a look at the biographies of Nelson Shields and Sarah Brady and what motivated them. Both were much more benign characters than Barack Obama or the crew who run the Democratic congressional caucus today. Everything they did was characterized by displacement of responsibility in service of their own emotional processing and what they fancied was socially acceptable. Nelson Shields lost his son to a feral character who was actually racially motivated. He could have agitated in favor of deterrence, punishment, and incapacitation of such characters. He could have agitated against the culture of recrimination in which his son's killer was marinated. Instead, he blamed inanimate objects. Sarah Brady had placed her son in the truck of a friend and discovered a short time later her son noodling around with a loaded gun he'd found in the truck. Instead of blaming the friend or blaming herself, she goes on a 20+ year campaign against gun ownership.Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Dmon
I agree with everything you wrote, but we need to stop calling it “motte and bailey” – that’s dignifying it with far too much honest intent. Call it what it is – “bait and switch”. Those people are con artists, pure and simple.
Evidence of motive, by itself, is not sufficient to prove guilt. This (along with the burden of proof being on the accuser) is a basic principle of American law. But I guess Rushists are not used to working under an evidence based rule of law system.
So far, just as I predicted, no one has come forward with one shred of actual evidence.
Feb. 7, 2022, 11:53 AM EST / Updated Feb. 8, 2022, 2:35 AM EST
By Lauren Egan
WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden on Monday said the U.S. would “bring an end” to the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline if Russia invades Ukraine.
“If Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine — then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” Biden said while standing next to the new chancellor of Germany, Olaf Scholz, at a White House news conference.
When pressed for details on how he would keep that promise given that the pipeline is not under U.S. control, Biden did not elaborate.
“I promise you, we will be able to do it,” he told reporters.Replies: @MGB
So far, just as I predicted, no one has come forward with one shred of actual evidence.Replies: @Harry Baldwin
Jack, does this ring a bell?
Feb. 7, 2022, 11:53 AM EST / Updated Feb. 8, 2022, 2:35 AM EST
By Lauren Egan
WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden on Monday said the U.S. would “bring an end” to the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline if Russia invades Ukraine.
“If Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine — then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” Biden said while standing next to the new chancellor of Germany, Olaf Scholz, at a White House news conference.
When pressed for details on how he would keep that promise given that the pipeline is not under U.S. control, Biden did not elaborate.
“I promise you, we will be able to do it,” he told reporters.
With the way these cops are all tatted-up now and with the facial hair, bring to mind Alex’s droogs. Fuck da po-lice
Anyway, comment 125 by Achmed E. Newman speaks to the whole issue concisely and succinctly.Replies: @Guest007
I never understand people who think they are being clever by intentionally misunderstanding something. And blacks leaving Compton was not due to black flight since there no neighborhoods in Los Angeles County that are becoming more black. It is due to blacks becoming a smaller percentage of the population.
At the 2020 census, the city of Compton was 27% black and 69% hispanic. Black pop. = 24,000.
In the same time period, Palmdale, CA (in LA county) has added >20,000 blacks, going from approximately 0% black to 13% black.
I didn't say blacks were fleeing from Whites. They're fleeing from Mexicans.
https://socds.huduser.gov/census/screen1.odb?metro=msa
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/comptoncitycalifornia/RHI225221Replies: @Guest007
The problem which arose after 1941 was that an escalating share of private actors were denied in law discretion which was properly theirs. Meanwhile, administrative agencies and judges in cahoots with lawfare scammers like Joseph Rauh managed (contrary to public opinion) to fold, spindle, and mutilate the notion of 'non-descrimination' to such an extent that it meant any measure meant to put a thumb on the scale for the preferred clientele of the Anointed. Both of these phenomena are at a variance with the principles of a free society and you can make an argument that elements of this regime are at war with constitutional provisions as well.
If we had some measure of justice, authentic anti-discrimination law would apply to the public sector, utilities and to a selection of industries (shipping, transportation, lodgings, fuel vending, food vending, medical care, and legal services) in selected circumstances. Otherwise, freedom of contract and association prevails. Also, if we had legality, federal legislation would only cover a selection of circumstances.
We do not live in that world. I'm not seeing that world emerging any time in the next several generations.Replies: @Guest007
The only way for a private business to enforce its own policies of racial classifications and denying services/products based upon race is to use the force of the government such as trespassing laws. If one puts up a sign that says “Open for Business” one can no longer discriminate and there would be no legal basis to ever bring back racial/ethnicity based discrimination in the future.
What conservatives should be doing is using the laws against non-whites in the same way that non-whites use the laws against whites. The recent incident where Gov. DeSantis pointed out to the NHL that they were violating federal civil rights law at a job fair would be a good point. The lawsuit against Infosys for refusing to hire whites would be another.
So?Replies: @Guest007
They can repurpose those old batons as codpieces
At the 1980 census, the city of Compton was 74% black and 21% hispanic. Black population = 60,000.
At the 2020 census, the city of Compton was 27% black and 69% hispanic. Black pop. = 24,000.
In the same time period, Palmdale, CA (in LA county) has added >20,000 blacks, going from approximately 0% black to 13% black.
I didn’t say blacks were fleeing from Whites. They’re fleeing from Mexicans.
https://socds.huduser.gov/census/screen1.odb?metro=msa
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/comptoncitycalifornia/RHI225221
What conservatives should be doing is using the laws against non-whites in the same way that non-whites use the laws against whites. The recent incident where Gov. DeSantis pointed out to the NHL that they were violating federal civil rights law at a job fair would be a good point. The lawsuit against Infosys for refusing to hire whites would be another.Replies: @Art Deco
The only way for a private business to enforce its own policies of racial classifications and denying services/products based upon race is to use the force of the government such as trespassing laws.
So?
So?Replies: @Guest007
Once cannot claim private association and then depend upon the government to enforce one’s personal view of race separation.
At the 2020 census, the city of Compton was 27% black and 69% hispanic. Black pop. = 24,000.
In the same time period, Palmdale, CA (in LA county) has added >20,000 blacks, going from approximately 0% black to 13% black.
I didn't say blacks were fleeing from Whites. They're fleeing from Mexicans.
https://socds.huduser.gov/census/screen1.odb?metro=msa
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/comptoncitycalifornia/RHI225221Replies: @Guest007
Palmdale is over 60% Hispanic. Not exactly a great place to flee Hispanics. Look it up.
I’m afraid people did that from the time the first constable was appointed in this country all the way up to 1946. Pretty much everywhere.
Feb. 7, 2022, 11:53 AM EST / Updated Feb. 8, 2022, 2:35 AM EST
By Lauren Egan
WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden on Monday said the U.S. would “bring an end” to the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline if Russia invades Ukraine.
“If Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine — then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” Biden said while standing next to the new chancellor of Germany, Olaf Scholz, at a White House news conference.
When pressed for details on how he would keep that promise given that the pipeline is not under U.S. control, Biden did not elaborate.
“I promise you, we will be able to do it,” he told reporters.Replies: @MGB
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