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The Atlantic has pioneered the concept of periodicals in the Internet Age making money off sponsoring gatherings of rich people in Meat Space, such as its Aspen Ideas Festival. The Atlantic also offers more narrowly focused events, such as:

EVENTS
Water Summit

Beverly Hills, CA November 2, 2017

At the Water Summit, The Atlantic will gather the leading voices in water, from environmentalists and policymakers to farmers, industry and community leaders, to forge a dialogue around the critical water issues of our time.

What better place to think Deep Thoughts about water than Beverly Hills? Perhaps the participants can take a bus tour past mogul David Geffen’s estate to see what 27,000 gallons per day will get you in hedge height.

 
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  1. • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Anon

    LOL. His accuser wanted to be a "galactic astrophysicist" and first black female astronaut, but because of the rape, she couldn't. So she switched from astrophysics to "Musical Healing and Divine Wellness". Just like Einstein--if he hadn't been a physicist, he'd have opened an energy crystal shop.


    The Black Liberation Yoga System.

    Affectionately called, NAFU (which is a Kemetic Term for Freedom, To Breathe) BLYS!

    NAFU BLYS came about one day while talking with some close friends about how so many illnesses of today are actually symptoms of trauma that occurred within our ancestry, generations ago, Namely Post Slavery Stress Disorder or Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome.
     

    Replies: @Anon

  2. That hedge is a beautiful thing.

    Those of us without unlimited funds (without hedge funds!) — and who don’t really want to look at a green monster anyway — have to make do planting pine trees and hollies and such in strategic places. Climate zones make a difference too in what you can grow.

    Of course, there’s always the friendly Hawaiian Mark Zuckerberg approach:

    Geffen’s and Zuckerberg’s landscaping remind one of this:

    I hope President Trump is paying attention. Maybe he can put Gef and Zuck on the border project.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Dude, that's a picture of Ofer Prison, not the border wall

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Trump would have to make it worthwhile for Zuck. I'll bet he'd get on board for a trillion bucks.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  3. Off topic: I’m wondering how long this wave of accusations will last.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accused-of-rape/

    My rule of thumb is that one accuser may or may not be credible, but a few dozen accusers are more credible. But there’s probably a better rule of thumb.

    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    @benjaminl

    Maybe white male Christian should stop forcing themselves on women

    Replies: @fish, @RadicalCenter, @Pericles

  4. One thing they absolutely will not discuss is the relationship of water shortages and population numbers. Since mass immigration is now at the core of leftist ideology, this heretical idea will never see the light of day at anything run by The Atlantic.

    • Replies: @oddsbodkins
    @neutral

    Geffen doesn't have any children. In the long run his environmental impact will be smaller than that of most people. In the short run he's a pig.

  5. You see a hedge. I see a high rise condo for vermin.

  6. I don’t have anything against a huge hedgerow like Geffen’s. Celebrities need some types of security barricades around their houses, and despite using a lot of water these hedgerows look better than tall fences while being just as effective.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @prosa123

    Right. I really don't want to see what's going on at David Geffen's estate.

    I like hedges.

    Replies: @Realist

  7. @neutral
    One thing they absolutely will not discuss is the relationship of water shortages and population numbers. Since mass immigration is now at the core of leftist ideology, this heretical idea will never see the light of day at anything run by The Atlantic.

    Replies: @oddsbodkins

    Geffen doesn’t have any children. In the long run his environmental impact will be smaller than that of most people. In the short run he’s a pig.

  8. @Buzz Mohawk
    That hedge is a beautiful thing.

    Those of us without unlimited funds (without hedge funds!) -- and who don't really want to look at a green monster anyway -- have to make do planting pine trees and hollies and such in strategic places. Climate zones make a difference too in what you can grow.

    Of course, there's always the friendly Hawaiian Mark Zuckerberg approach:

    http://nteb.mudflowermedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mark-zuckerberg-builds-massive-wall-around-hawaii-compound.jpg

    Geffen's and Zuckerberg's landscaping remind one of this:

    http://2012books.lardbucket.org/books/regional-geography-of-the-world-globalization-people-and-places/section_11/8ee6de0094167f6f5f8d78f2b07ebf19.jpg

    I hope President Trump is paying attention. Maybe he can put Gef and Zuck on the border project.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Harry Baldwin

    Dude, that’s a picture of Ofer Prison, not the border wall

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @kaganovitch

    LOL

    Kinda the same, isn't it?

    Here's your border wall (I want one like it here for the US):

    http://www.punjabinewslive.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/border-wall.jpg

  9. The biggest hedges I’ve ever seen were in Palm Beach. They just went on and on, mile after mile. It took quite a distance before I even realized there were houses behind them – which of course is the point.

    I read somewhere that this business started during the Depression. Before that, the rich would gad about town throwing silver dollars at waifs, but after the crash they had to hide, assuming they didn’t go bust themselves.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    Yes, there were huge hedges in an upscale part of Vancouver in the early 1970s. It must have taken them a while to get that high. 1930s would fit.

    Of course I haven't any idea what the upscale neighbourhoods look like now.

    I avoid the place like the plague.

    I understand from news stories that the whole city is now "upscale."

  10. This reminds me of Willow Palisade, an 800+ miles long barrier built across Northern China by the Manchu emperors in order to prevent the Han Chinese from moving into Manchurian heartland. It was a deep trench with rows of literal willows on either side. The trees were planted about a foot apart and as they grew their branches got interwoven, forming a dense hedge. That was quite effective, at least against the Chinese.

    Perhaps Trump could use this idea. A green wall, very environmentally responsible. The lefties will love it. Also, didn’t Trump promise to build a big, beautiful wall? Willow trees are very beautiful.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @inertial

    Hedges in Normandy posed a lot of problems for Allied troops in the six weeks of hard fighting after D-Day. It took until the middle of July 1944 to fight their way off the Normandy peninsula, in part because the enormous hedges kept tanks on the roads between hedges, which could make them sitting ducks.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @whoever, @anonymous

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @inertial

    How about a bunch of these Holly bushes planted 3' apart and left to grow to 20 ft? Oh, they'll bring a 21' ladder you say? That's what the concertina wire is for. Oh, they'll bring dykes and dremel tools, you say? That's what the electricity is for.

    A drunk friend dived into a 10'-across patch of these to catch a frisbee one time way back. He didn't feel it until the morning.

    http://www.peakstupidity.com/images/sticker-leaved-holly.jpg

    I guess these would need a quite a bit of water. OK, there's always cacti.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Autochthon
    @inertial

    Of course, it only worked because the Manchurian government did not simultaneously import hundreds of thousands of Han via aeroplanes, awarding the imported Han all the places in their universities and posts in engineering and science whilst declaring every Han infant born in Manchuria a Manchurian and systematically favouring Han in every conceivable social, educational, legal, and political context whilst persecuting actual Manchurians; all the while selling every acre of real estate they could to the Han....

  11. @benjaminl
    Off topic: I'm wondering how long this wave of accusations will last.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accused-of-rape/

    My rule of thumb is that one accuser may or may not be credible, but a few dozen accusers are more credible. But there's probably a better rule of thumb.

    Replies: @Tiny Duck

    Maybe white male Christian should stop forcing themselves on women

    • Replies: @fish
    @Tiny Duck


    Who be Christian Tinys?

    - Leonard Pitz
     
    , @RadicalCenter
    @Tiny Duck

    Been spurned by another handsome white guy, tiny dick? He SAID he's straight, dude.

    , @Pericles
    @Tiny Duck

    Is it true he shouted "Neil ... DeGrassssse ... TYSOOOOOON"?

  12. Anonymous [AKA "Astonishanator"] says:

    Vermin? What kind? Just curious.

  13. @inertial
    This reminds me of Willow Palisade, an 800+ miles long barrier built across Northern China by the Manchu emperors in order to prevent the Han Chinese from moving into Manchurian heartland. It was a deep trench with rows of literal willows on either side. The trees were planted about a foot apart and as they grew their branches got interwoven, forming a dense hedge. That was quite effective, at least against the Chinese.

    Perhaps Trump could use this idea. A green wall, very environmentally responsible. The lefties will love it. Also, didn't Trump promise to build a big, beautiful wall? Willow trees are very beautiful.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @Autochthon

    Hedges in Normandy posed a lot of problems for Allied troops in the six weeks of hard fighting after D-Day. It took until the middle of July 1944 to fight their way off the Normandy peninsula, in part because the enormous hedges kept tanks on the roads between hedges, which could make them sitting ducks.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, since I know you like movies, you probably remember a scene in Patton where the generals are talking about getting through the hedgerow country in France. I think it is Karl Mauldin, as General Omar Bradley.

    , @whoever
    @Steve Sailer

    You've probably already read it, but in case you haven't, Chapter 10, The Battle of Normandy, History of the 313th Infantry in World War II, gives a very detailed account of the hedgerow fighting. It's an astonishing story. It shouldn't be allowed to be forgotten.

    , @anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    An enterprising sergeant came up with an improvised solution to deal with the hedges. He used steel from German beach obstacles and welded improvised cutters onto the fronts of Sherman tanks. This allowed the tanks to cut through the hedges without raising their bodies and exposing their softer undersides to German antitank gunners.

    Here is a short video of one such tank demonstrating its effectiveness.

  14. @Tiny Duck
    @benjaminl

    Maybe white male Christian should stop forcing themselves on women

    Replies: @fish, @RadicalCenter, @Pericles

    Who be Christian Tinys?

    – Leonard Pitz

  15. @kaganovitch
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Dude, that's a picture of Ofer Prison, not the border wall

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    LOL

    Kinda the same, isn’t it?

    Here’s your border wall (I want one like it here for the US):

  16. @Steve Sailer
    @inertial

    Hedges in Normandy posed a lot of problems for Allied troops in the six weeks of hard fighting after D-Day. It took until the middle of July 1944 to fight their way off the Normandy peninsula, in part because the enormous hedges kept tanks on the roads between hedges, which could make them sitting ducks.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @whoever, @anonymous

    Steve, since I know you like movies, you probably remember a scene in Patton where the generals are talking about getting through the hedgerow country in France. I think it is Karl Mauldin, as General Omar Bradley.

  17. @inertial
    This reminds me of Willow Palisade, an 800+ miles long barrier built across Northern China by the Manchu emperors in order to prevent the Han Chinese from moving into Manchurian heartland. It was a deep trench with rows of literal willows on either side. The trees were planted about a foot apart and as they grew their branches got interwoven, forming a dense hedge. That was quite effective, at least against the Chinese.

    Perhaps Trump could use this idea. A green wall, very environmentally responsible. The lefties will love it. Also, didn't Trump promise to build a big, beautiful wall? Willow trees are very beautiful.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @Autochthon

    How about a bunch of these Holly bushes planted 3′ apart and left to grow to 20 ft? Oh, they’ll bring a 21′ ladder you say? That’s what the concertina wire is for. Oh, they’ll bring dykes and dremel tools, you say? That’s what the electricity is for.

    A drunk friend dived into a 10′-across patch of these to catch a frisbee one time way back. He didn’t feel it until the morning.

    I guess these would need a quite a bit of water. OK, there’s always cacti.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hollies are terrific, and birds love 'em. Good-sized examples are not cheap, so you'll need a big cheque from Enrique for your border wall, unless you start small.

  18. Here is the Spreckles Mansion in San Francisco now owned by Danille Steel with a controversial hedge.

    https://sf.curbed.com/2014/11/25/10018636/behind-the-hedges-and-inside-the-history-of-danielle-steels-spreckels

  19. @Buzz Mohawk
    That hedge is a beautiful thing.

    Those of us without unlimited funds (without hedge funds!) -- and who don't really want to look at a green monster anyway -- have to make do planting pine trees and hollies and such in strategic places. Climate zones make a difference too in what you can grow.

    Of course, there's always the friendly Hawaiian Mark Zuckerberg approach:

    http://nteb.mudflowermedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mark-zuckerberg-builds-massive-wall-around-hawaii-compound.jpg

    Geffen's and Zuckerberg's landscaping remind one of this:

    http://2012books.lardbucket.org/books/regional-geography-of-the-world-globalization-people-and-places/section_11/8ee6de0094167f6f5f8d78f2b07ebf19.jpg

    I hope President Trump is paying attention. Maybe he can put Gef and Zuck on the border project.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Harry Baldwin

    Trump would have to make it worthwhile for Zuck. I’ll bet he’d get on board for a trillion bucks.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Harry Baldwin

    We could easily sell another $Trillion in un-payable debt to China, but Zuck won't come on board even for that much.

    "Walls are for me and not for thee."

    There is one possibility. Offer all the land along the border to Zuck. Let him have it as his own, giant estate. Then his instincts will compel him to build his own wall around it.

    This will cost us in the long run, though. Eventually his instincts will also nudge him into blaming the rest of us for excluding him and keeping him in a ghetto, even though he built the walls around himself. We will then have to give him his ancestral home: Westchester County, New York.

  20. Now I know why guys like Geffen want lots of illegals here. Those Mexicans who get over Trump’s 30-foot wall with their 31-foot ladders can bring them along when they trim Geffen’s hedges.

  21. @Tiny Duck
    @benjaminl

    Maybe white male Christian should stop forcing themselves on women

    Replies: @fish, @RadicalCenter, @Pericles

    Been spurned by another handsome white guy, tiny dick? He SAID he’s straight, dude.

  22. @Achmed E. Newman
    @inertial

    How about a bunch of these Holly bushes planted 3' apart and left to grow to 20 ft? Oh, they'll bring a 21' ladder you say? That's what the concertina wire is for. Oh, they'll bring dykes and dremel tools, you say? That's what the electricity is for.

    A drunk friend dived into a 10'-across patch of these to catch a frisbee one time way back. He didn't feel it until the morning.

    http://www.peakstupidity.com/images/sticker-leaved-holly.jpg

    I guess these would need a quite a bit of water. OK, there's always cacti.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Hollies are terrific, and birds love ’em. Good-sized examples are not cheap, so you’ll need a big cheque from Enrique for your border wall, unless you start small.

  23. @Faraday's Bobcat
    The biggest hedges I've ever seen were in Palm Beach. They just went on and on, mile after mile. It took quite a distance before I even realized there were houses behind them - which of course is the point.

    I read somewhere that this business started during the Depression. Before that, the rich would gad about town throwing silver dollars at waifs, but after the crash they had to hide, assuming they didn't go bust themselves.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Yes, there were huge hedges in an upscale part of Vancouver in the early 1970s. It must have taken them a while to get that high. 1930s would fit.

    Of course I haven’t any idea what the upscale neighbourhoods look like now.

    I avoid the place like the plague.

    I understand from news stories that the whole city is now “upscale.”

  24. @Steve Sailer
    @inertial

    Hedges in Normandy posed a lot of problems for Allied troops in the six weeks of hard fighting after D-Day. It took until the middle of July 1944 to fight their way off the Normandy peninsula, in part because the enormous hedges kept tanks on the roads between hedges, which could make them sitting ducks.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @whoever, @anonymous

    You’ve probably already read it, but in case you haven’t, Chapter 10, The Battle of Normandy, History of the 313th Infantry in World War II, gives a very detailed account of the hedgerow fighting. It’s an astonishing story. It shouldn’t be allowed to be forgotten.

  25. @Harry Baldwin
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Trump would have to make it worthwhile for Zuck. I'll bet he'd get on board for a trillion bucks.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    We could easily sell another $Trillion in un-payable debt to China, but Zuck won’t come on board even for that much.

    “Walls are for me and not for thee.”

    There is one possibility. Offer all the land along the border to Zuck. Let him have it as his own, giant estate. Then his instincts will compel him to build his own wall around it.

    This will cost us in the long run, though. Eventually his instincts will also nudge him into blaming the rest of us for excluding him and keeping him in a ghetto, even though he built the walls around himself. We will then have to give him his ancestral home: Westchester County, New York.

  26. @prosa123
    I don't have anything against a huge hedgerow like Geffen's. Celebrities need some types of security barricades around their houses, and despite using a lot of water these hedgerows look better than tall fences while being just as effective.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Right. I really don’t want to see what’s going on at David Geffen’s estate.

    I like hedges.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Steve Sailer

    It's about hypocrisy.

  27. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @inertial

    Hedges in Normandy posed a lot of problems for Allied troops in the six weeks of hard fighting after D-Day. It took until the middle of July 1944 to fight their way off the Normandy peninsula, in part because the enormous hedges kept tanks on the roads between hedges, which could make them sitting ducks.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @whoever, @anonymous

    An enterprising sergeant came up with an improvised solution to deal with the hedges. He used steel from German beach obstacles and welded improvised cutters onto the fronts of Sherman tanks. This allowed the tanks to cut through the hedges without raising their bodies and exposing their softer undersides to German antitank gunners.

    Here is a short video of one such tank demonstrating its effectiveness.

  28. @Tiny Duck
    @benjaminl

    Maybe white male Christian should stop forcing themselves on women

    Replies: @fish, @RadicalCenter, @Pericles

    Is it true he shouted “Neil … DeGrassssse … TYSOOOOOON”?

  29. @Steve Sailer
    @prosa123

    Right. I really don't want to see what's going on at David Geffen's estate.

    I like hedges.

    Replies: @Realist

    It’s about hypocrisy.

  30. The British Raj in India used a hedge as part of a barrier to prevent salt smuggling into the regions where salt was taxed. Where the hedge, which was about 800 miles long, was properly established, it was very effective. From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Customs_Line):

    ‘The hedge was nowhere less than 8 feet (2.4 m) high and 4 feet (1.2 m) thick and in some places was 12 feet (3.7 m) high and 14 feet (4.3 m) thick. Hume himself remarked that his barrier was “in its most perfect form, … utterly impassable to man or beast”.’

  31. @Anon
    Black bodies sure are tireless

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accused-of-rape/

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    LOL. His accuser wanted to be a “galactic astrophysicist” and first black female astronaut, but because of the rape, she couldn’t. So she switched from astrophysics to “Musical Healing and Divine Wellness”. Just like Einstein–if he hadn’t been a physicist, he’d have opened an energy crystal shop.

    The Black Liberation Yoga System.

    Affectionately called, NAFU (which is a Kemetic Term for Freedom, To Breathe) BLYS!

    NAFU BLYS came about one day while talking with some close friends about how so many illnesses of today are actually symptoms of trauma that occurred within our ancestry, generations ago, Namely Post Slavery Stress Disorder or Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Chrisnonymous

    She should have appreciated Degrasse's demonstration of rocket science.

  32. > The Atlantic has pioneered the concept of periodicals in the Internet Age making money off sponsoring gatherings of rich people in Meat Space

    sounds like someone is jealous that the Congressional Black Caucus is closer to getting their hands on a $half tril, then somebody is to getting Steve Bannon to mention somebody’s fundraisers

    But hey….. keep up the baseball and golf-course posts.

  33. @Chrisnonymous
    @Anon

    LOL. His accuser wanted to be a "galactic astrophysicist" and first black female astronaut, but because of the rape, she couldn't. So she switched from astrophysics to "Musical Healing and Divine Wellness". Just like Einstein--if he hadn't been a physicist, he'd have opened an energy crystal shop.


    The Black Liberation Yoga System.

    Affectionately called, NAFU (which is a Kemetic Term for Freedom, To Breathe) BLYS!

    NAFU BLYS came about one day while talking with some close friends about how so many illnesses of today are actually symptoms of trauma that occurred within our ancestry, generations ago, Namely Post Slavery Stress Disorder or Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome.
     

    Replies: @Anon

    She should have appreciated Degrasse’s demonstration of rocket science.

  34. @inertial
    This reminds me of Willow Palisade, an 800+ miles long barrier built across Northern China by the Manchu emperors in order to prevent the Han Chinese from moving into Manchurian heartland. It was a deep trench with rows of literal willows on either side. The trees were planted about a foot apart and as they grew their branches got interwoven, forming a dense hedge. That was quite effective, at least against the Chinese.

    Perhaps Trump could use this idea. A green wall, very environmentally responsible. The lefties will love it. Also, didn't Trump promise to build a big, beautiful wall? Willow trees are very beautiful.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman, @Autochthon

    Of course, it only worked because the Manchurian government did not simultaneously import hundreds of thousands of Han via aeroplanes, awarding the imported Han all the places in their universities and posts in engineering and science whilst declaring every Han infant born in Manchuria a Manchurian and systematically favouring Han in every conceivable social, educational, legal, and political context whilst persecuting actual Manchurians; all the while selling every acre of real estate they could to the Han….

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