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From NBC News:

Georgetown Law professor resigns over ‘insensitive remarks’ about Black students

David Batson’s resignation came after a video showing him and another faculty member discuss the performance of Black students went viral. The other professor seen in the video was fired.

March 13, 2021, 9:02 AM PST
By Janhvi Bhojwani and Nicole Acevedo

A second Georgetown University Law Center professor is leaving the school after a video of him and another faculty member discussing the performance of Black students in their class went viral.

David Batson, an adjunct professor, submitted his letter of resignation to law school Dean William Treanor on Friday, a day after he was placed on administrative leave Thursday.

Batson’s resignation came after Georgetown Law professor Sandra Sellers, the other faculty member seen in the video, was fired Thursday. …

“When suddenly and unexpectedly faced with such remarks, it is challenging to know how to appropriately respond,” he wrote. “In the moment, my heartfelt response was to point the discussion toward what I believe is our personal responsibility—to be aware of and respond to potential unconscious bias in all our undertakings.

“I understand, however, that I missed the chance to respond in a more direct manner to address the inappropriate content of those remarks,” Batson said. “For this I sincerely apologize.”

From The Gulag Archipelago by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn:

In addition, there were certain defendants who knew about all this talk and yet kept silent, did not write denunciations. (In our contemporary lingo: “He knew, but he didn’t tell.”)

 
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  1. Solzhenitsyn’s schema makes fine distinctions like those found in Dante’s hell and heaven because, as he says, he sees the line between good and evil passing through the heart of every man.

    “I understand, however, that I missed the chance to respond in a more direct manner to address the inappropriate content of those remarks,” Batson said. “For this I sincerely apologize.”

    From the fine-slicing perspective, this groveling law professor doesn’t deserve to be classed with the Gulag’s silent non-denouncers.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Chrisnonymous

    The main thing he's trying to slice finely is the distinction between continuing to work at Georgetown University and never being able to hold a job anywhere.

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Kronos
    @Chrisnonymous

    His “First Circle” book very much incorporated that.

  2. “He knew, but he didn’t tell.”

    A person could get whiplash going from “Don’t ask, don’t tell” to “If you see something, say something” and back– and forth and back and forth.

    Is Eurasia the Whom this week, or Eastasia?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    , @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Know, Don’t Tell” would be a great motto for current cognitively loaded professions/classes. Let proles be the kamikaze accusers to winnow the field, via Instagram, TikTok, NYTimes.com etc. Fake community rituals and weaponized esprit de corps are now good form, old sport

    , @kaganovitch
    @Reg Cæsar

    Is Eurasia the Whom this week, or Eastasia?

    I think we can all agree that whatever the who/whom merits here, it is always problematic to use a Dr. Seuss illustration to make one's point.

  3. @Reg Cæsar

    “He knew, but he didn’t tell.”

     

    A person could get whiplash going from "Don't ask, don't tell" to "If you see something, say something" and back-- and forth and back and forth.


    Is Eurasia the Whom this week, or Eastasia?


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/c3/ac/f2c3ac64baed7c93cb147f3b14315b25.png

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @kaganovitch

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all. If I’m getting fired no matter what I say, I’m gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    • Replies: @Firefinga
    @AndrewR

    Indeed, the grovelling is so off-putting. But on the other hand, it's very "Stalinist-era"-behaviour. Yeah I know, people aren't being Gulag'd (yet) for wrongspeak, but still the same psychological mechanisms are in play.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @anon
    @AndrewR


    grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all
     
    The best response would be " Lol wut ?" on twitter.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    , @astrolabe
    @AndrewR


    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all.
     
    The alternative is that these people genuinely think they have done wrong and are grateful to the party for pointing out their errors, happy to denounce themselves and throw themselves on their swords as a necessary step in creating a perfect polity.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @astrolabe
    @AndrewR


    "Thoughtcrime!" said Parsons, almost blubbering. The tone of his voice implied at once a complete admission of his guilt and a sort of incredulous horror that such a word could be applied to himself. He paused opposite Winston and began eagerly appealing to him: "You don't think they'll shoot me, do you, old chap? They don't shoot you if you haven't actually done anything—only thoughts, which you can't help? I know they give you a fair hearing. Oh, I trust them for that! They'll know my record, won't they? You know what kind of a chap I was. Not a bad chap in my way. Not brainy, of course, but keen. I tried to do my best for the Party, didn't I? I'll get off with five years, don't you think? Or even ten years? A chap like me could make himself pretty useful in a labor camp. They wouldn't shoot me for going off the rails just once?"

    "Are you guilty?" said Winston.

    "Of course I'm guilty!" cried Parsons with a servile glance at the telescreen. "You don't think the Party would arrest an innocent man, do you?" His froglike face grew calmer, and even took on a slightly sanctimonious expression. "Thoughtcrime is a dreadful thing, old man," he said sententiously. "It's insidious. It can get hold of you without your even knowing it. Do you know how it got hold of me? In my sleep! Yes, that's a fact. There I was, working away, trying to do my bit—never knew I had any bad stuff in my mind at all. And then I started talking in my sleep. Do you know what they heard me saying?"

    He sank his voice, like someone who is obliged for medical reasons to utter an obscenity.

    "'Down with Big Brother!' Yes, I said that! Said it over and over again, it seems. Between you and me, old man, I'm glad they got me before it went any further. Do you know what I'm going to say to them when I go up before the tribunal? 'Thank you,' I'm going to say, 'thank you for saving me before it was too late.'"

    "Who denounced you?" said Winston.

    "It was my little daughter," said Parsons with a sort of doleful pride. "She listened at the keyhole. Heard what I was saying, and nipped off to the patrols the very next day. Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh? I don't bear her any grudge for it. In fact I'm proud of her. It shows I brought her up in the right spirit, anyway."
     
    , @Tono Bungay
    @AndrewR

    What evidence do you have that these apologies "don't help you at all"? Perhaps his parting compensation is conditional on the apology. Perhaps his likelihood of ever getting rehired elsewhere is increased by his apology. Yes, it is revolting and nauseating, but it may unfortunately not be pointless.

    Replies: @Alden, @AShartIsBorn, @Nicholas Stix

    , @John Pepple
    @AndrewR

    Yes, I'd be demanding that students complaining about me be expelled.

    I'd also be pointing out that my sin, if it even was a sin, was quite minor compared with their sins of ignoring the continuing existence of black slaves in North Africa, the plight of the Uighurs in China, the trafficking of girls in places like Rotherham, etc.

    , @Shouting Thomas
    @AndrewR

    Yet another possibility is that the groveler wants to find another job.

    The accused are often effectively blacklisted from their profession.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @BB753

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @AndrewR

    He's not groveling to keep his job. He's groveling so he can work someplace else and not be blacklisted forever.

    Replies: @AShartIsBorn

    , @Pop Warner
    @AndrewR

    Cucking to the mob might not be entirely useless. Even though he resigned, a Georgetown professor (especially a white guy) is probably pretty credentialed and can find work elsewhere - maybe less prestigious than Georgetown but a position that will put food on the table. By groveling he might have an opportunity to get hired in the future, when this blows over and people largely forget about it. Were he to make no apologies and even go on the attack against his tormentors, there would be zero chance of ever working in academia. It's no guarantee, but in the former scenario he at least has a chance at future employment.

    This is how the neoliberal religion demands repentance; he might be absolved of his sins if he shows complete contrition and genuflects to his betters. And since he probably isn't a race realist then doubling down is out of the question in his mind. He is a faithful caught committing heresy, and it will probably weigh on his conscience for life.

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @stillCARealist

    , @mikeInThe716
    @AndrewR

    Derb mentioned that the delay in getting Batson's resignation was enough for him to lawyer up and negotiate a severance. Of course, the grovelling confession is part of such deals.

    Derb also mentioned that the vast majority of acedemics are such spineless twits that it wouldn't surprise him if Batson just caved. But Batson has to know he's now unemployable in his field. Could he be that clueless regarding all the consequences? Or does an appropriate grovel get you a small chance to work as a part time instructor at a community college?

    Replies: @Polistra, @EdwardM

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @AndrewR

    He could have said, "well . . . I was thinking about the fact that blacks are about one standard deviations below whites on measured intelligence, and doing the math in my head . . ."

    Might as well go out in a blaze of glory.

    Replies: @bomag

    , @anonymous
    @AndrewR


    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all. If I’m getting fired no matter what I say, I’m gonna go with the opposite of an apology.
     
    I believe the answer is that they don't know the obvious lessons from all of the previous incidents because these people do not know about the previous incidents.

    People like these two adjuncts, who are also practicing successful lawyers in DC, probably exist in a Blue Church bubble where they get their information from CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, and the BezosPost. The don't know about the dozens of similar incidents to theirs, where people have been unfairly blacklisted and ruined because of violating some ridiculous and ever-changing Orwellian speech norms, because such incidents are ignored by these media outlets. They don't know about it and their friends and colleagues don't know about it. These things are only covered in conservative media and blogs.

    They think they are part of the good, smart team (team Blue), and they have no knowledge of the ridiculous things that the good smart team has actually been up to lately. So when their boss Dean, who they know is also on the good smart team, calls them in to the office and tells them that they have been very bad, behaving like the bad racist people, they half believe it. They have no context for considering that the Dean and the whole good smart team is actually the ridiculous team where people are losing their jobs left and right for looking at someone wrong (or even for what a family member does in the case of the mom of that Atlanta cop being forced from her job at a bank.)

    Maybe once everyone on team Blue personally knows someone who this has happened to they will wise up and stop groveling when this hits them, and instead say nothing and lawyer up, but until then, I'm not holding my breath.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Nicholas Stix

    , @AShartIsBorn
    @AndrewR

    The correct response for the cancelled is to drag down the canceller with you. Perhaps it turns out that, when you gave each a phone call after the controversy started, the head of HR and the board of governors both offered you sex in exchange for keeping your job, and it is your rightful duty in the name of #metoo to expose this on every social media platform.

    Replies: @Elsewhere

    , @Hibernian
    @AndrewR


    If I’m getting fired no matter what I say, I’m gonna go with the opposite of an apology.
     
    For an adjunct law professor, that might affect his day job, maybe even the way judges, if he does any trial work, view him.
    , @AnotherDad
    @AndrewR

    Late to this thread, but i'll toss it out there.

    Obviously the zeroth order deal is--if you work directly or indirectly from some organization and value that, then don't discuss this stuff in any reproduceable medium.

    But what is odd to me is that neither of these "professors" bothered to say the words "Affirmative Action".

    If you're caught mentioning black academic mediocrity ... those should be the first words out of your mouth. Because then you're talking about something the organization did, not blacks.


    "Georgetown Law practices Affirmative Action to admit promising blacks with lower LSAT than our white and Asian students, but doesn't seem to give many of them the support and mentoring to be able to compete on a level playing field with higher scoring students. We professors are left holding the bag, without the time nor resources to help these students, who often as a result are at the bottom of the our classes."
     
    That's not something Georgetown wants to have discussed. They'd rather have it be "you're a racist". Screw them. Make it about them, not you.
  4. Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    • Replies: @Liza
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Sorting out the pecking order of the various minority groups can be quite a challenge.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @bomag
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Present here for our examination:

    ) This Black lady looks plenty White.

    ) Her tweet was essentially shaming Asians for acting too White; thus herding them back onto the liberal plantation.

    ) Now this five year old tweet is pulled out to fine-tune the behavior of this school board VP, reminding us, again, that social media has become a tool of oppression for the Left -- as the original post relates.

    , @AndrewR
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    She won't get cancelled because that would be implicitly endorsing Trump and "white supremacy," at least according to SJW standards.

    , @Hans
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    From 2010 The Dirty Secret of Black on Asian Violence is Out - https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Dirty-secret-of-black-on-Asian-violence-is-out-3265760.php

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @AnotherDad
    @Ripple Earthdevil


    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:
     
    The cleverer Asians can practice a little wokejudo.

    Blacks are far from either the most bolted down people, nor the most racially liberal.

    So as Asians play up their "anti-Asian racism" trope, the hyper-sensitivity of wokeism--the most trivial of comments generating calls for cancellation--Asians should be able to find offenses from lots of teat sucking blacks and use them to knock these black parasites out of their comfy sinecures. This should actually improve the performance of public institutions--like schools--and make them more amenable to the concerns of Asians. Big win for them.


    Unfortunately, for us legacy Americans, Jewish minoritarianism is precisely designed so that there's one group that can not use this maneuver--white gentiles. Blacks, Jews, Asians spouting anti-white nonsense--peachy. Anti-white-gentilism is allowed--even encouraged--even in someplace where we are now a minority.
    , @Anonymous
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    I like to think I have good BIPOC instrument rating but was surprised how slow I was to put together that the SF Vice whatever is Black. With her turtleneck and hipster glasses she completely passed for my image of a Bay Area wokerado; now I realize, she couldn’t have gotten to this present echelon of obnoxious behavior without a solid piece of Black-papal dispensation

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Have you heard of Alexi McCammond?

    Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil

    , @Alden
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    SF. Asians Hispanics and Whites have been victimized by a black criminal class for the last 80 years when they were brought from Texas and Louisiana to work in WW2 industries.

    But they still vote overwhelmingly hard left lunatic democrat. So f’em, let them enjoy the government they’ve voted in charge for almost a century.

  5. By Janhvi Bhojwani and Nicole Acevedo

    Not entirely off-topic but…

    Have Old Stock Americans been completely cut out of the media? There were once reporters and columnists with names like Lewis, Smith, Pegler, Jones and now there isn’t.

    They keep saying subscriptions are falling. Because the names on the masthead are alien?

    • Agree: unit472, James Speaks
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Franz

    More importantly, I think, is that the number of literate Old Stock Americans is dropping rapidly. The names on the masthead unfortunately reflect the readership rather well.

    Replies: @bomag

    , @Dumbo
    @Franz

    What are you talking about, old sport?
    Nothing says "Old Stock American" more than Jhan.. Jahn... Janhvi Blojahni.
    Part of the famous Blojahni family from New England, with ancient links to the Mayflower pilgrims.

    Replies: @Franz

    , @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle
    @Franz

    Readership is falling off because the zombies aren't being taught to read much less write comprehensive sentences.

    When texting is your primary form or written communication. Being able to read much less write sentences more than a few words long can hurt the communicators brain, or what's left of it.

  6. I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    I wonder. Hmmm…..

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Soviet ruling class brought the children of Third World countries in to indoctrinate them, but it sent them back. Ours is replacing itself. This is something beyond ethnic hatred and nearer to total loss of control.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Alden

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this. Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    , @Charles St. Charles
    @JohnnyWalker123


    I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.
     
    The Demon in Democracy: Totalitarian Temptations in Free Societies
    https://www.amazon.com/Demon-Democracy-Totalitarian-Temptations-Societies/dp/1594038635

    The author experienced both communism and then liberal democracy in Poland. He found that they were much more similar than he expected.

    , @Kylie
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    I wonder. Hmmm….."

    I wonder if you wonder.*



    *Name that movie!

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  7. anonymous[138] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is . That name gives me a shamefully xenophobic pause for reflection. At least I can take comfort in assuming his or her parents have a higher IQ than mine and entered this country legally.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @anonymous


    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is .
     
    https://i.imgur.com/jE11Txb.jpg


    Now you do.

    Replies: @jsm, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Anon7, @El Dato, @Brutusale

    , @Grahamsno(G64)
    @anonymous

    That's an upper caste Indian surname, I don't know if its my confirmation bias but there are so many Indians in print media in US & UK as their names are easy to identify.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @anonymous



    By Janhvi Bhojwani and Nicole Acevedo
     
    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is . That name gives me a shamefully xenophobic pause for reflection.
     
    Then you're halfway there, livin' on a prayer...
  8. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    Indeed, the grovelling is so off-putting. But on the other hand, it’s very “Stalinist-era”-behaviour. Yeah I know, people aren’t being Gulag’d (yet) for wrongspeak, but still the same psychological mechanisms are in play.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Firefinga

    "it’s very “Stalinist-era”-behaviour"

    And I'm not sure that it helped in the Stalinist era either, or for the various professors in dunce caps who had to confess their sins in Mao's China.

  9. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:

    “When suddenly and unexpectedly faced with such remarks, it is challenging to know how to appropriately respond,” he wrote. “In the moment, my heartfelt response was to point the discussion toward what I believe is our personal responsibility—to be aware of and respond to potential unconscious bias in all our undertakings.”

    NO, MORON.
    The existence of “potential unconscious bias” is part of our human condition as animals.
    There is no “special” need to be aware of that. Thinking humans grasp this.
    Our “personal responsibility” … or as Kant puts it our moral command… is to treat other individuals as ends-in-themselves.
    Being “aware” of “unconcscious bias” is WORSE THAN USELESS if you do not grasp what morality demands. Morality has literally nothing to do with acting in accord with or against such inner feelings.

    And yet the problem with this “professor” is not that he lacks a grasp of Kant, but rather that he is bereft of Aristotle. A man lacking courage is inclined to forsake all virtue.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous


    And yet the problem with this “professor” is not that he lacks a grasp of Kant,...
     
    Au contraire, mon ami! This “professor” has an excellent grasp of cant.
    , @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @Anonymous


    Being “aware” of “unconcscious bias” is WORSE THAN USELESS if you do not grasp what morality demands. Morality has literally nothing to do with acting in accord with or against such inner feelings.
     
    Right.

    And of course, that's why this totalitarian effort to root out or otherwise quash "unconscious bias" is not going to end well.

    Anybody can be "guilty" and anybody will. We're approaching this particular precipice very very quickly.

    Actions and behavior are way more important that any set of thoughts, conscious or unconscious, or anywhere in between. But we're becoming unmoored from this fundamental principle and civilization may collapse as a result.
  10. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    Replies: @Liza, @bomag, @AndrewR, @Hans, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    Sorting out the pecking order of the various minority groups can be quite a challenge.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Liza

    The law school that paid their salaries made no secret of its commitment to diversity. They both knew that commitment to diversity was not mere lip service and Georgetown Law had a high proportion of their black students given a coveted place with objectively substandard exam and LSAT results.

    They both knew the aforementioned diversity policy of, not just their, but all top law schools tends to mismatch most of the blacks with very competitive hothouse environments and led to their belief in the reality of racist professors. Moreover, the professors must have been aware due to such discouragement of blacks they were increasingly not sticking with the law or choosing it as a career in the first place. Hence, the professors both knew that the law school employing them was a ruthless shark that didn't hesitate to destroy blacks' life chances for PR kudos, but it was not to be mentioned. Did he think he could hear her publicly spill the beans in that conversation, and being white would save him from held to have 'bystander responsibility'?

  11. How good a job is ‘adjunct professor’ at Georgetown law school anyway? Problem for Batson is he not only lost his job but his dignity and, as Ray Donovan once asked about his reputation, where can you go to get that back?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @unit472

    Looks like he was one of those poor souls who thought he was making the world a better place by teaching after a long career. He is most likely fine financially, and I doubt too many people in his social circle will shun him for this.

    https://www.nadn.org/pdf/David-Batson.pdf

    Replies: @Kaz

    , @Prof. Woland
    @unit472

    It would be interesting to have an off the record talk with an ERISA attorney or someone who represents defendants about what the going rate is for various wrongful termination settlements. These terminations / resignations are probably handled like nuisance lawsuits where it is understood that it is cheaper to pay off the terminated professors rather than fight. Even though there are NDA everybody probably has a good idea of what the price is. Take the money and sign the contract or go for more and get a public legal fight.

  12. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all

    The best response would be ” Lol wut ?” on twitter.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @anon

    "on twitter"

    Should serious people even be on Twitter? I ask this as a non-serious person who resisted the temptation to join the platform because I knew my tendency to view all humans, especially babies, as complete creeps, would lead to problems for my chocolate-covered banana business. Except for a few bright bulbs -- Greenwald, Sailer, Webb, Fang, Taibbi, unkempt Tracey -- Twitter, and all social media, has diluted the legitimacy of professional journalism.

  13. So the “active” offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments — he specifically says the poor performance of his black students ‘makes him crazy’ which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.

    Meanwhile the “passive” offender was fired merely for not objecting strongly enough, which is so egregious that I’m disappointed that any professor of law would respond so submissively.

    Perhaps it’s for the best in both cases; anyone with so little fight in them, or with so little commitment to basic fairness, probably shouldn’t be serving as models for jurisprudence. And really, what further negative consequences are they trying to avoid by not making the obvious objections in their responses? At this point, they’re damaged goods anyway…

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Sollipsist

    Academia tends to select for passive people, or at least brings out passive traits. Leadership of the thing is important, and the Left has been plenty adept at weaseling their way in.

    And we are so abjectly in denial about the relative capability of Black people that pointing out any deficits, even in a spirit of suggesting improvement, is now a crime.

    , @Polemos
    @Sollipsist


    So the “active” offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments — he specifically says the poor performance of his black students ‘makes him crazy’ which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.
     
    He?

    Replies: @Sollipsist

    , @Muggles
    @Sollipsist


    So the “active” offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments — he specifically says the poor performance of his black students ‘makes him crazy’ which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.

    Meanwhile the “passive” offender was fired merely for not objecting strongly enough, which is so egregious that I’m disappointed that any professor of law would respond so submissively.
     
    Yes, in the Stalinist era the accusations were the sum total of "justice."

    If you blamed Troskyites then you were grilled on why you hadn't already denounced them. If you blamed "wreckers" and the British spies, likewise. That meant you were in league with them.

    You might only get 10 years in the Gulag rather than 15 if you denounced friends and relatives, but you had to hurry up to do that.

    The moral silver lining in that, then as now, is that only the Communists (usually) and now grovelling Woke commie intelligentsia, were the victims. They grovel when accused because they are evil, not stupid. This is what they know.

    Robespierre was pretty Woke himself, while he lasted.
  14. the performance of Black students in their class went viral

    Its inscribed in stone right over the front door:

    “THOU SHALT NOT DISCUSS THE PERFORMANCE OF THE NUMINOUS NEGOR, HOWEVER LACKING IT MAY BE.”

  15. @Chrisnonymous
    Solzhenitsyn's schema makes fine distinctions like those found in Dante's hell and heaven because, as he says, he sees the line between good and evil passing through the heart of every man.

    “I understand, however, that I missed the chance to respond in a more direct manner to address the inappropriate content of those remarks,” Batson said. “For this I sincerely apologize.”
     
    From the fine-slicing perspective, this groveling law professor doesn't deserve to be classed with the Gulag's silent non-denouncers.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Kronos

    The main thing he’s trying to slice finely is the distinction between continuing to work at Georgetown University and never being able to hold a job anywhere.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Polistra


    The main thing he’s trying to slice finely is the distinction between continuing to work at Georgetown University and never being able to hold a job anywhere.
     
    Georgetown Law gave this man the chance to resign with honor (sort of). He accepted in order to maintain his legal career viability. Smart choice since we are all living in clown world now.
    I am sure David Batson is a liberal in good standing, but the black racist yahoos to the left of him got his scalp. The black mob lynched him.

    Shouting Thomas says:
    Yet another possibility is that the groveler wants to find another job.

    Of course this is the reason. He want to keep his legal career intact, not be blacklisted.

  16. @JohnnyWalker123
    I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    I wonder. Hmmm.....

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Peter Akuleyev, @Charles St. Charles, @Kylie

    The Soviet ruling class brought the children of Third World countries in to indoctrinate them, but it sent them back. Ours is replacing itself. This is something beyond ethnic hatred and nearer to total loss of control.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @J.Ross

    Those who've brought them and are bringing them haven't last control at all, quite the contrary.

    They needed a Caste System to retain control and they've imported and continue to import just the people for the job.

    What was the first thing the Senate did (with Unanimous Consent!) the minute they thought (correctly?) they were free of Trump (i.e. the electorate)?

    Eliminated the country caps to bring in the Brahmins.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Alden
    @J.Ross

    That’s very true, good observation. We import indoctrinate and as soon as they graduate put them on the inside track to the ruling caste.

  17. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all.

    The alternative is that these people genuinely think they have done wrong and are grateful to the party for pointing out their errors, happy to denounce themselves and throw themselves on their swords as a necessary step in creating a perfect polity.

    • Agree: Old Prude, El Dato, bomag
    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @astrolabe

    The grovelling apology is the first step in finding new employment in the Borg. A hearty FU would not be a good career move, even if it would be good for the soul.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @astrolabe

    Nah, I think he's trying to weasel out and, as Polistra wrote, doing it in a way that he may be able to still get through HR and stay employed somewhere else in the field.

    That's brings up the problem Peak Stupidity pointed out years ago. Even Ivy League Professor Americans often live paycheck-to-paycheck (with some money in hard-to-get-at 401-k's etc). You can't take a stand when you need money coming in within a month or you'll be behind on the house, the BMWs, the old school loans, etc...

    Replies: @bomag, @Alden

  18. Chapter 6 of Jordan Peterson’s Beyond Order makes sense of this bizarre cult and their never-ending demands for orthodoxy quite nicely.

  19. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    “Thoughtcrime!” said Parsons, almost blubbering. The tone of his voice implied at once a complete admission of his guilt and a sort of incredulous horror that such a word could be applied to himself. He paused opposite Winston and began eagerly appealing to him: “You don’t think they’ll shoot me, do you, old chap? They don’t shoot you if you haven’t actually done anything—only thoughts, which you can’t help? I know they give you a fair hearing. Oh, I trust them for that! They’ll know my record, won’t they? You know what kind of a chap I was. Not a bad chap in my way. Not brainy, of course, but keen. I tried to do my best for the Party, didn’t I? I’ll get off with five years, don’t you think? Or even ten years? A chap like me could make himself pretty useful in a labor camp. They wouldn’t shoot me for going off the rails just once?”

    “Are you guilty?” said Winston.

    “Of course I’m guilty!” cried Parsons with a servile glance at the telescreen. “You don’t think the Party would arrest an innocent man, do you?” His froglike face grew calmer, and even took on a slightly sanctimonious expression. “Thoughtcrime is a dreadful thing, old man,” he said sententiously. “It’s insidious. It can get hold of you without your even knowing it. Do you know how it got hold of me? In my sleep! Yes, that’s a fact. There I was, working away, trying to do my bit—never knew I had any bad stuff in my mind at all. And then I started talking in my sleep. Do you know what they heard me saying?”

    He sank his voice, like someone who is obliged for medical reasons to utter an obscenity.

    “‘Down with Big Brother!’ Yes, I said that! Said it over and over again, it seems. Between you and me, old man, I’m glad they got me before it went any further. Do you know what I’m going to say to them when I go up before the tribunal? ‘Thank you,’ I’m going to say, ‘thank you for saving me before it was too late.’”

    “Who denounced you?” said Winston.

    “It was my little daughter,” said Parsons with a sort of doleful pride. “She listened at the keyhole. Heard what I was saying, and nipped off to the patrols the very next day. Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh? I don’t bear her any grudge for it. In fact I’m proud of her. It shows I brought her up in the right spirit, anyway.”

    • Thanks: bomag, YetAnotherAnon
  20. I appreciate the comparison between the old-time Commies and the modern ones, Steve.

    For some people, it could be their “Ahaaa!” moment. For most Americans, even “Conservatives”, none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it …

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Achmed E. Newman

    none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism

    How is it helpful? Or even accurate? For all its myriad flaws Communism defined everyone in terms of social class not race. It is profoundly anti-Marxist to put race above class, as American Marxists keep trying to point out and then get canceled for being insensitive. Islamists, for example, hate Communism but have no problems with this kind of Wokeness.

    We are really dealing with the legacy of anti-colonialism, which certainly was egged on by the USSR and Maoist China during the Cold War but is in reality a deeply nationalist ideology (just an anti-American/anti-Western nationalist ideology).

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Always found it curious that the rise of cultural Marxism/political correctness/wokeness/what-ever-you-want-to-call-it/ in the West paralleled the fall of tradition Marxism/Communism in Eastern Europe.

    Circa 1989-1991 conventional Marxism collapses in Europe and China/Vietnam become Communist in name only. At the same time in Western Europe and the Anglosphere, cultural Marxism, once confined to the bowls of academia, suddenly broke out into the mainstream.
    For example it was in the early '90s when political correctness and its various linguistic innovations suddenly became household terms: "African American" "Native American" "Diversity (is s strength)" "hate crimes" "racial profiling" etc.

    Prior to what Establishment Conservatives assume, Communism never really was defeated, just re-branded. As to why they've been so ineffectual at fighting cultural Marxism, I can only theorize that their paymasters in the business community don't see PC (most big corps have now embraced "Woke capitalism" in fact) as an existential threat the way traditional Communism was, with its seizing control of the means of production and (allegedly) handing them over to the public. Plus mass immigration gives capitalists more warm bodies to buy their wares and more cheap labor.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    For some people, it could be their “Ahaaa!” moment. For most Americans, even “Conservatives”, none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it …
     
    And right on cue, here's commenter Peter Akuleyev to give you shit about it.

    And, in answer to him, the term "Cultural Marxism" is perfectly appropriate. The Left took the intellectual machinery of marxism (such as it was) and re-fashioned it on the basis of race, rather than class, after they found out that the working class didn't much care for Marxism. David Horowitz has explained it all very well in his books, based on his experience as a "New Left" insider.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Achmed E. Newman, @rebel yell

  21. @astrolabe
    @AndrewR


    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all.
     
    The alternative is that these people genuinely think they have done wrong and are grateful to the party for pointing out their errors, happy to denounce themselves and throw themselves on their swords as a necessary step in creating a perfect polity.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Achmed E. Newman

    The grovelling apology is the first step in finding new employment in the Borg. A hearty FU would not be a good career move, even if it would be good for the soul.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Old Prude

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj2iGAifSNI

  22. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    What evidence do you have that these apologies “don’t help you at all”? Perhaps his parting compensation is conditional on the apology. Perhaps his likelihood of ever getting rehired elsewhere is increased by his apology. Yes, it is revolting and nauseating, but it may unfortunately not be pointless.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Tono Bungay

    Adjunct professors are part timers with no status or rights. They can be fired at any time. They are at will employees. Like substitute teachers, they work on yearly contracts. The contracts can be renewed or not at the end of the year. Usually the colleges get rid of them by not renewing the contracts at the end of the school year.

    Adjunct professors are at the bottom in terms of pay or job security. They have no job security. Actually, they are lower than grad student teaching assistants.

    Law and medical schools, other grad schools are different in that there are no grad students teaching under grad students. The students are grad school professionals. So the teachers all must be lawyers members or former members of the State Bar.

    Adjunct law school professors are either working attorneys or retired. It’s not how they make a living. Adjunct prof at a prestige law school is something to add to their websites, bio blurb in the State Bar listing, membership net working, meet pretty women or men if they’re gay.

    Schools and students like them because they hope the adjuncts might be helpful in getting jobs. . And forming legal aid foundations to further destroy America and White America.

    , @AShartIsBorn
    @Tono Bungay

    Apologies are admissions of guilt. Always viciously attack back, never apologize.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Tono Bungay

    Adjuncts get nothing.

    Whites who apologize for non-existent offenses get nothing.

    It is as pointless as it was for innocents to "confessed" at their Soviet show trials.

  23. @astrolabe
    @AndrewR


    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all.
     
    The alternative is that these people genuinely think they have done wrong and are grateful to the party for pointing out their errors, happy to denounce themselves and throw themselves on their swords as a necessary step in creating a perfect polity.

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Achmed E. Newman

    Nah, I think he’s trying to weasel out and, as Polistra wrote, doing it in a way that he may be able to still get through HR and stay employed somewhere else in the field.

    That’s brings up the problem Peak Stupidity pointed out years ago. Even Ivy League Professor Americans often live paycheck-to-paycheck (with some money in hard-to-get-at 401-k’s etc). You can’t take a stand when you need money coming in within a month or you’ll be behind on the house, the BMWs, the old school loans, etc…

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Achmed E. Newman


    You can’t take a stand when you need money coming in within a month or you’ll be behind on the house, the BMWs, the old school loans, etc…
     
    Highlights the issue of needing a support group -- like minded family, friends, and community that will tide you over and keep you on your feet.

    Does the Left worry about the wolf-at-the-door? They seem to have plenty of landing spots for those pushed out of a position for various outrageous behaviors.
    , @Alden
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Another great observation and comment.

    Here’s another. American middle and upper class life is essentially debt slavery. First the huge student loan payment, then the income taxes then the mortgage and property taxes or rent which is paying the landlords mortgage and property taxes then the car payments repairs insurance and gas to get to the job.

    The average American is either so low paid he might as well go on welfare or just a conduit pipe from the paycheck to taxes and debt payments, lifelong debt payments by the way.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  24. Oh no, muh “job” that I use in order to advertise myself as a great lawyer.Now I am left only with my job as a lawyer. Opression! Abuse! Macroaggression!

  25. @Liza
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Sorting out the pecking order of the various minority groups can be quite a challenge.

    Replies: @Sean

    The law school that paid their salaries made no secret of its commitment to diversity. They both knew that commitment to diversity was not mere lip service and Georgetown Law had a high proportion of their black students given a coveted place with objectively substandard exam and LSAT results.

    They both knew the aforementioned diversity policy of, not just their, but all top law schools tends to mismatch most of the blacks with very competitive hothouse environments and led to their belief in the reality of racist professors. Moreover, the professors must have been aware due to such discouragement of blacks they were increasingly not sticking with the law or choosing it as a career in the first place. Hence, the professors both knew that the law school employing them was a ruthless shark that didn’t hesitate to destroy blacks’ life chances for PR kudos, but it was not to be mentioned. Did he think he could hear her publicly spill the beans in that conversation, and being white would save him from held to have ‘bystander responsibility’?

    • Thanks: Liza
  26. OT: Blue Wonderland language at RT.com

    Not sure whether trolling.

    Father of trans teen to be kept in jail after speaking to press about resisting hormone injections for his child

    The signature case in Canada’s British Columbia (BC) started several years ago. At the age of 12, ‘Maxine’ (not the child’s real name), who was assigned female gender [i.e. “was of the female sex”] at birth, struggled to find her place in life, including her gender identity. Her school counselor suggested she may be transgender [I suppose “she be made transgender” would be correct], referring her to a doctor [more like “a ‘doctor’”] and telling the school to treat her like a boy.

    By the age of 14 the teen was identifying as a male trapped in a female body [have you ever been trapped in a female body?] and was eager to start hormone therapy [implanted false memories are back]. The mother was supportive of the decision, but Hoogland – who was separated from the rest of the family but shared custody over the child – felt things were rushed. He said he would be OK with a transition if his child were older and more prepared to make an informed decision about a life-altering procedure. The consent form he refused to sign said hormones could result in various health complications, including elevated risk of heart disease, stroke, or diabetes, and even infertility [more work for “doctors”].

    In Hoogland’s case, Canadian courts repeatedly sided with the hospital [more like “it used to be a hospital – it’s something much worse now”] and allowed hormone therapy to proceed. Moreover, the father was significantly restricted in how he could speak about the case. He was ordered to always use Maxine’s chosen name, gender, and pronouns, and was banned from trying to convince his child to stop the therapy.

    Absence of genderbending is violence:

    A judge even stated that his interviews with the media, in which Hoogland referred to Maxine as his daughter and said things like “her DNA will not change through all these experiments that they do,” may be considered “family violence.”

  27. Good. These two people are part of the problem and would see each and everyone of you behind bars just for the indignity of attending a Capitol rally.

    Georgetown law professors are worthless anyhow. Let them eat themselves.

    • Agree: Alden
  28. Dumbass Cracka be in dark if brutha not inveent bulb

  29. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    Yes, I’d be demanding that students complaining about me be expelled.

    I’d also be pointing out that my sin, if it even was a sin, was quite minor compared with their sins of ignoring the continuing existence of black slaves in North Africa, the plight of the Uighurs in China, the trafficking of girls in places like Rotherham, etc.

  30. One time I taught Logic twice at the local community college using Introduction to Logic by Copl which has gone through many editions. The book finally introduces symbolic logic but we didn’t quite get that far in the book but almost. Most of the book consists of examining competing story lines for necessary inferences. It is much like the puzzles in the LSAT exam. In one case a Hispanic lady dropped the course half-way through explaining that she felt she was up to speed to run for political office and in fact went on to have a competent career as one of the County Commisioners who run Travis County which overlaps Austin Tx. Another time, I had a young black lady who requested an office appointment. We went over the easiest of the puzzles from the beginning of the book and she just couldn’t get it. She said “I’m not dumb” in utter frustration. Made me feel like the law professor who got fired.

  31. @anonymous
    I don't know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is . That name gives me a shamefully xenophobic pause for reflection. At least I can take comfort in assuming his or her parents have a higher IQ than mine and entered this country legally.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Grahamsno(G64), @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is .

    Now you do.

    • Replies: @jsm
    @PiltdownMan

    Ouch! That hurt my eye!

    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    @PiltdownMan

    She seems nice.

    , @Anon7
    @PiltdownMan

    Isn't it weird how people around the world have learned to approximate the European smile?

    , @El Dato
    @PiltdownMan

    Trans women are women!

    Meanwhile in the UK:

    From "two weeks to flatten the curve" to "four years to flatten the curve":

    Masks and distancing could be required for several more YEARS, British public health expert says

    Someone needs to go into the market for head-receptacles in form of pikes.

    , @Brutusale
    @PiltdownMan

    She's conversant with the Fat Girl Angle Shot.

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F66.media.tumblr.com%2F705f2e2f9a0f7a688902d58ca27a9876%2Ftumblr_inline_ppuo4nn8Is1qc2qnz_1280.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fat%20girl%20angle%20shot

  32. @Franz

    By Janhvi Bhojwani and Nicole Acevedo
     
    Not entirely off-topic but...

    Have Old Stock Americans been completely cut out of the media? There were once reporters and columnists with names like Lewis, Smith, Pegler, Jones and now there isn't.

    They keep saying subscriptions are falling. Because the names on the masthead are alien?

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Dumbo, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    More importantly, I think, is that the number of literate Old Stock Americans is dropping rapidly. The names on the masthead unfortunately reflect the readership rather well.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Are the new overlords writing anything worth reading?

  33. @JohnnyWalker123
    I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    I wonder. Hmmm.....

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Peter Akuleyev, @Charles St. Charles, @Kylie

    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this. Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.

    • Agree: Jack D
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Peter Akuleyev


    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this.
     
    And as we all know, the Soviet State was just peachy prior to 1937. A real paradise on Earth.

    Of course it was in the years leading up to then that the character of the Soviet State was established.

    Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.
     
    Less competent at what? Killing people? Is that a bad thing?

    No, they still seemed quite competent at that. Although perhaps they became a bit more circumspect about it.
    , @Anon
    @Peter Akuleyev


    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this. Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.
     
    Stalin’s alleged “purge of the Jewish element” in reality is more like Harvard capping its Jewish enrollment at 10%—or at 90%, with 10% reserved to African Americans.

    There have been plenty of Jews in powerful positions in the Soviet Union, from 1937 to present day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  34. @Franz

    By Janhvi Bhojwani and Nicole Acevedo
     
    Not entirely off-topic but...

    Have Old Stock Americans been completely cut out of the media? There were once reporters and columnists with names like Lewis, Smith, Pegler, Jones and now there isn't.

    They keep saying subscriptions are falling. Because the names on the masthead are alien?

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Dumbo, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    What are you talking about, old sport?
    Nothing says “Old Stock American” more than Jhan.. Jahn… Janhvi Blojahni.
    Part of the famous Blojahni family from New England, with ancient links to the Mayflower pilgrims.

    • Replies: @Franz
    @Dumbo


    Part of the famous Blojahni family from New England, with ancient links to the Mayflower pilgrims.
     
    Ah... I think that was the old days, when everybody was proud of the USA and everybody had kin from the Mayflower, had some Cherokee blood, and their family included ancestors who wore Blue (daddy's side) and Gray (mommy's side) back in the 1860s.

    Those days must have been great. Before our time. Disney got protests when he staged the battle of the Alamo for a TV movie. In.... 1955!
  35. @Achmed E. Newman
    I appreciate the comparison between the old-time Commies and the modern ones, Steve.

    For some people, it could be their "Ahaaa!" moment. For most Americans, even "Conservatives", none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it ...

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism

    How is it helpful? Or even accurate? For all its myriad flaws Communism defined everyone in terms of social class not race. It is profoundly anti-Marxist to put race above class, as American Marxists keep trying to point out and then get canceled for being insensitive. Islamists, for example, hate Communism but have no problems with this kind of Wokeness.

    We are really dealing with the legacy of anti-colonialism, which certainly was egged on by the USSR and Maoist China during the Cold War but is in reality a deeply nationalist ideology (just an anti-American/anti-Western nationalist ideology).

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Peter Akuleyev

    For all its myriad flaws Communism defined everyone in terms of social class not race.

    This is only remotely true of refined theoretical Marxism. The Soviet Union was as overtly racist in policy as any other early twentieth century government. One of the primary images of the Spanish Civil War was the three-pointed red star near one white, one Fu Manchu yellow, and one Sambo black man. Chechens and Jews probably disagree with your assertion.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  36. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    …and then they came for dead misogynistic Jewish writers and I said, “Meh.”

    Pulitzer Prize-winning author Phillip Roth could get CANCELED after his biographers posthumously reveal his ‘misogyny’ amid claims of his sexual ‘depravity’ in real life

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9384995/Phillip-Roth-face-getting-cancelled-biographers-posthumously-reveal-misogyny.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed&ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Anon

    Better buy your Philip Roth Library of America editions while you still can!

  37. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    Replies: @Liza, @bomag, @AndrewR, @Hans, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    Present here for our examination:

    ) This Black lady looks plenty White.

    ) Her tweet was essentially shaming Asians for acting too White; thus herding them back onto the liberal plantation.

    ) Now this five year old tweet is pulled out to fine-tune the behavior of this school board VP, reminding us, again, that social media has become a tool of oppression for the Left — as the original post relates.

  38. @Sollipsist
    So the "active" offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments -- he specifically says the poor performance of his black students 'makes him crazy' which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.

    Meanwhile the "passive" offender was fired merely for not objecting strongly enough, which is so egregious that I'm disappointed that any professor of law would respond so submissively.

    Perhaps it's for the best in both cases; anyone with so little fight in them, or with so little commitment to basic fairness, probably shouldn't be serving as models for jurisprudence. And really, what further negative consequences are they trying to avoid by not making the obvious objections in their responses? At this point, they're damaged goods anyway...

    Replies: @bomag, @Polemos, @Muggles

    Academia tends to select for passive people, or at least brings out passive traits. Leadership of the thing is important, and the Left has been plenty adept at weaseling their way in.

    And we are so abjectly in denial about the relative capability of Black people that pointing out any deficits, even in a spirit of suggesting improvement, is now a crime.

  39. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    Yet another possibility is that the groveler wants to find another job.

    The accused are often effectively blacklisted from their profession.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Shouting Thomas

    Still not sure I could debase myself like that. Sometimes God gives you signs that you need a new career. I suppose this is easy for me to say, but people need to stop going along with this insanity.

    , @BB753
    @Shouting Thomas

    The only way to survive in academia is to become a whore.

    Replies: @Polistra

  40. @Sollipsist
    So the "active" offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments -- he specifically says the poor performance of his black students 'makes him crazy' which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.

    Meanwhile the "passive" offender was fired merely for not objecting strongly enough, which is so egregious that I'm disappointed that any professor of law would respond so submissively.

    Perhaps it's for the best in both cases; anyone with so little fight in them, or with so little commitment to basic fairness, probably shouldn't be serving as models for jurisprudence. And really, what further negative consequences are they trying to avoid by not making the obvious objections in their responses? At this point, they're damaged goods anyway...

    Replies: @bomag, @Polemos, @Muggles

    So the “active” offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments — he specifically says the poor performance of his black students ‘makes him crazy’ which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.

    He?

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
    @Polemos

    Sorry, I guess I was taking a hard line on preferred pronouns.

  41. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    I appreciate the comparison between the old-time Commies and the modern ones, Steve.

    For some people, it could be their "Ahaaa!" moment. For most Americans, even "Conservatives", none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it ...

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    Always found it curious that the rise of cultural Marxism/political correctness/wokeness/what-ever-you-want-to-call-it/ in the West paralleled the fall of tradition Marxism/Communism in Eastern Europe.

    Circa 1989-1991 conventional Marxism collapses in Europe and China/Vietnam become Communist in name only. At the same time in Western Europe and the Anglosphere, cultural Marxism, once confined to the bowls of academia, suddenly broke out into the mainstream.
    For example it was in the early ’90s when political correctness and its various linguistic innovations suddenly became household terms: “African American” “Native American” “Diversity (is s strength)” “hate crimes” “racial profiling” etc.

    Prior to what Establishment Conservatives assume, Communism never really was defeated, just re-branded. As to why they’ve been so ineffectual at fighting cultural Marxism, I can only theorize that their paymasters in the business community don’t see PC (most big corps have now embraced “Woke capitalism” in fact) as an existential threat the way traditional Communism was, with its seizing control of the means of production and (allegedly) handing them over to the public. Plus mass immigration gives capitalists more warm bodies to buy their wares and more cheap labor.

  42. @unit472
    How good a job is 'adjunct professor' at Georgetown law school anyway? Problem for Batson is he not only lost his job but his dignity and, as Ray Donovan once asked about his reputation, where can you go to get that back?

    Replies: @Barnard, @Prof. Woland

    Looks like he was one of those poor souls who thought he was making the world a better place by teaching after a long career. He is most likely fine financially, and I doubt too many people in his social circle will shun him for this.

    https://www.nadn.org/pdf/David-Batson.pdf

    • Replies: @Kaz
    @Barnard

    Yeah no one in a 50+ age group crowd is going to go around excommunicating old pals because they didn't nimbly praise blacks enough..

    Young people are the ones tearing apart their friendships and familial bonds over verbal mishaps and thoughtcrimes.

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @duncsbaby

  43. @Shouting Thomas
    @AndrewR

    Yet another possibility is that the groveler wants to find another job.

    The accused are often effectively blacklisted from their profession.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @BB753

    Still not sure I could debase myself like that. Sometimes God gives you signs that you need a new career. I suppose this is easy for me to say, but people need to stop going along with this insanity.

  44. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    Replies: @Liza, @bomag, @AndrewR, @Hans, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    She won’t get cancelled because that would be implicitly endorsing Trump and “white supremacy,” at least according to SJW standards.

  45. @Polistra
    @Chrisnonymous

    The main thing he's trying to slice finely is the distinction between continuing to work at Georgetown University and never being able to hold a job anywhere.

    Replies: @Clyde

    The main thing he’s trying to slice finely is the distinction between continuing to work at Georgetown University and never being able to hold a job anywhere.

    Georgetown Law gave this man the chance to resign with honor (sort of). He accepted in order to maintain his legal career viability. Smart choice since we are all living in clown world now.
    I am sure David Batson is a liberal in good standing, but the black racist yahoos to the left of him got his scalp. The black mob lynched him.

    Shouting Thomas says:
    Yet another possibility is that the groveler wants to find another job.

    Of course this is the reason. He want to keep his legal career intact, not be blacklisted.

  46. Masada Liberalism rides again.

    Last summer, I frequently walked down to a Georgetown coffee shop that always had the Georgetown University college newspaper on display. Every issue I read, almost every article was devoted to this woke identity hypersensitivity nonsense, the pretended taking of offense at trivial actions or statements and then the scramble to do penance for the fake-offended. That was all the newspaper covered.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Henry Canaday


    Last summer, I frequently walked down to a Georgetown coffee shop that always had the Georgetown University college newspaper on display. Every issue I read, almost every article was devoted to this woke identity hypersensitivity nonsense, the pretended taking of offense at trivial actions or statements and then the scramble to do penance for the fake-offended. That was all the newspaper covered.
     
    The dynamic is that these awful people are 50% fake-offended and 50% deranged, mental, acting out their derangement in public. My take anyway.
    , @stillCARealist
    @Henry Canaday

    Sounds just like the Daily Cal that I read at UC Berkeley in the 80's. It's probably the same funders, the same type of publishers that are still pushing this stuff.

  47. David Batson ye old white dude…..No wonder they wanted him out. He has a good reputation as mediator for 40 years. So figure he is 65 years old or so.

    https://www.nadn.org/david-batson
    Biographical
    Mr. Batson has 40 years of professional experience assisting private and government parties resolve complex hazardous waste and environmental disputes. This includes over 30 years as an ADR neutral and consulting expert with service in 500+ environmental, natural resource, public policy, organization, and business disputes. He has served as an allocation specialist, convening neutral, and mediator at more than 100 hazardous waste sites, including contaminated riverine/estuarine sediment and groundwater sites, landfills, abandoned mines, and commercial/manufacturing facilities.

    As a nationally recognized expert in ADR and allocation practice, Mr. Batson is often called upon to provide testimony and consultation services in support of litigation in federal and state courts, including several of national significance. His services have involved consulting on negotiation strategy, preparation of expert reports, and depositional and trial testimony.

    Mr. Batson also has extensive experience facilitating formation and effectiveness of PRP Groups, including mediation of organizational agreements, consultation on negotiation with regulatory agencies, and conduct of PRP searches. In his former position as Senior Counsel with the EPA Office of Enforcement, he dealt with both legal and technical issues arising in the settlement of numerous hazardous waste sites. He also obtained substantial experience in enforcement procedures and policy regarding regulation of pollution of water, air, toxic substances, and solid and hazardous wastes pursuant to RCRA, CWA, SDWA, CAA, EPCRA, FIFRA, and TSCA.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Clyde

    I am so sick and tired of environmental remediation laws. They accomplish nothing except to make lawyers rich.

    Leaching chemicals living underground beget lawyer-leeches living in penthouse apartments.

  48. @Henry Canaday
    Masada Liberalism rides again.

    Last summer, I frequently walked down to a Georgetown coffee shop that always had the Georgetown University college newspaper on display. Every issue I read, almost every article was devoted to this woke identity hypersensitivity nonsense, the pretended taking of offense at trivial actions or statements and then the scramble to do penance for the fake-offended. That was all the newspaper covered.

    Replies: @Clyde, @stillCARealist

    Last summer, I frequently walked down to a Georgetown coffee shop that always had the Georgetown University college newspaper on display. Every issue I read, almost every article was devoted to this woke identity hypersensitivity nonsense, the pretended taking of offense at trivial actions or statements and then the scramble to do penance for the fake-offended. That was all the newspaper covered.

    The dynamic is that these awful people are 50% fake-offended and 50% deranged, mental, acting out their derangement in public. My take anyway.

  49. Too many lawyer-profsters.

    Abolish government guaranteed, student loans. Start by denying such loans to law students.

  50. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Achmed E. Newman

    none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism

    How is it helpful? Or even accurate? For all its myriad flaws Communism defined everyone in terms of social class not race. It is profoundly anti-Marxist to put race above class, as American Marxists keep trying to point out and then get canceled for being insensitive. Islamists, for example, hate Communism but have no problems with this kind of Wokeness.

    We are really dealing with the legacy of anti-colonialism, which certainly was egged on by the USSR and Maoist China during the Cold War but is in reality a deeply nationalist ideology (just an anti-American/anti-Western nationalist ideology).

    Replies: @J.Ross

    For all its myriad flaws Communism defined everyone in terms of social class not race.

    This is only remotely true of refined theoretical Marxism. The Soviet Union was as overtly racist in policy as any other early twentieth century government. One of the primary images of the Spanish Civil War was the three-pointed red star near one white, one Fu Manchu yellow, and one Sambo black man. Chechens and Jews probably disagree with your assertion.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    I don't remember the Soviet Union handing out gold stars to Chechens and Jews. The USSR persecuted both those groups for valuing their own ethnic identity more than their proletarian/Soviet identity. That is the opposite of what goes on in the US.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  51. @Firefinga
    @AndrewR

    Indeed, the grovelling is so off-putting. But on the other hand, it's very "Stalinist-era"-behaviour. Yeah I know, people aren't being Gulag'd (yet) for wrongspeak, but still the same psychological mechanisms are in play.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “it’s very “Stalinist-era”-behaviour”

    And I’m not sure that it helped in the Stalinist era either, or for the various professors in dunce caps who had to confess their sins in Mao’s China.

  52. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    He’s not groveling to keep his job. He’s groveling so he can work someplace else and not be blacklisted forever.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @AShartIsBorn
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    He should sue them instead and live off the settlement.

  53. How much does it cost to rent a bulldozer? Because it would be better to just plow those “Institutions” under and start over, as to allow them to continue to spiritually and physically pollute our nation.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @bomag
    @theMann

    LOL

    Can't particularly disagree. The product is so degraded that no one wants to repair or maintain the thing, thus opening the way for scrappers to come in and install the "equity" curriculum.

  54. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    Cucking to the mob might not be entirely useless. Even though he resigned, a Georgetown professor (especially a white guy) is probably pretty credentialed and can find work elsewhere – maybe less prestigious than Georgetown but a position that will put food on the table. By groveling he might have an opportunity to get hired in the future, when this blows over and people largely forget about it. Were he to make no apologies and even go on the attack against his tormentors, there would be zero chance of ever working in academia. It’s no guarantee, but in the former scenario he at least has a chance at future employment.

    This is how the neoliberal religion demands repentance; he might be absolved of his sins if he shows complete contrition and genuflects to his betters. And since he probably isn’t a race realist then doubling down is out of the question in his mind. He is a faithful caught committing heresy, and it will probably weigh on his conscience for life.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Pop Warner

    Hey, Pops, always a decent read, you. It's DC, he may have access to lots of think tanks and the policy-cookers they employ. From Brookings to CATO and all the ones up and down the alphabet, plus the policy-cookers, he may find a job in the basement next to the boiler, but it depends on his specialties and published works which these guys have in abundance. Depends also on his financial state, too. In a month we'll remember it happened, but not the name. HR on the other hand...

    , @stillCARealist
    @Pop Warner

    What gets me is that likely EVERY professor in America has noticed this pattern. It's either, "why are all my black students at the bottom?" or "why don't I have many... or any... black students in here?"

    It's not like this is a brand new problem.

    I took microbiology in college, a relatively easy and fun course. It was required for plenty of life science majors and had a ton of students. I remember zero blacks, even though the larger campus had a highly visible black presence. Did my professor, a sweet old woman, ever wonder about that?

    Maybe what would have saved these Gtown profs is if they never had black students to begin with. Then they wouldn't notice their low scores.

    Replies: @anonymous

  55. OT
    Pulitzer Prize-winning author Phillip Roth could get CANCELED after his biographers posthumously reveal his ‘misogyny and sexual depravity’
    Phillip Roth could face getting cancelled after his biographers posthumously revealed allegations from his life reflecting misogyny seen in his books
    The Pulitzer Prize-winning author, who died in 2018, was known for penning novels filled with ‘enormous rage and disappointment with womenkind’
    Now, two separate biographers have claimed revelations of his real life ‘sex and depravity’ could spur a reassessment of work
    Ira Nadel, author of Philip Roth: A Counterlife, wrote that Roth was ‘as sexually obsessed in real life as he was in literature’
    Blake Bailey, for his authorized Philip Roth: The Biography, received independence and complete access from the author himself
    In his book, Bailey claims Roth visited London brothels and chose female students to attend a seminar based on their attractiveness
    In a visit to London, Roth allegedly went looking for Chinese prostitutes and allegedly said: ‘God, I’m fond of adultery’

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Clyde

    Monkey see, Monkey do...

    , @Colin Wright
    @Clyde

    '...Ira Nadel, author of Philip Roth: A Counterlife, wrote that Roth was ‘as sexually obsessed in real life as he was in literature’
    Blake Bailey, for his authorized Philip Roth: The Biography, received independence and complete access from the author himself
    In his book, Bailey claims Roth visited London brothels and chose female students to attend a seminar based on their attractiveness
    In a visit to London, Roth allegedly went looking for Chinese prostitutes and allegedly said: ‘God, I’m fond of adultery’'


    This obsession with sex is noticeably commonplace among Jews. Roth, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Weinstein, Dershowitz, Epstein, Isaac Bashevis Singer...Isaac Merritt Singer too.

    Thinking about it, it seems to apply to several of the Jews I've known as well. I mean, of course it's important to all of us, but...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar

  56. If you are going to go, this is how you go …

  57. @JohnnyWalker123
    I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    I wonder. Hmmm.....

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Peter Akuleyev, @Charles St. Charles, @Kylie

    I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    The Demon in Democracy: Totalitarian Temptations in Free Societies

    The author experienced both communism and then liberal democracy in Poland. He found that they were much more similar than he expected.

  58. @Anonymous
    "When suddenly and unexpectedly faced with such remarks, it is challenging to know how to appropriately respond,” he wrote. “In the moment, my heartfelt response was to point the discussion toward what I believe is our personal responsibility—to be aware of and respond to potential unconscious bias in all our undertakings."

    NO, MORON.
    The existence of "potential unconscious bias" is part of our human condition as animals.
    There is no "special" need to be aware of that. Thinking humans grasp this.
    Our "personal responsibility" ... or as Kant puts it our moral command... is to treat other individuals as ends-in-themselves.
    Being "aware" of "unconcscious bias" is WORSE THAN USELESS if you do not grasp what morality demands. Morality has literally nothing to do with acting in accord with or against such inner feelings.

    And yet the problem with this "professor" is not that he lacks a grasp of Kant, but rather that he is bereft of Aristotle. A man lacking courage is inclined to forsake all virtue.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    And yet the problem with this “professor” is not that he lacks a grasp of Kant,…

    Au contraire, mon ami! This “professor” has an excellent grasp of cant.

  59. @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Soviet ruling class brought the children of Third World countries in to indoctrinate them, but it sent them back. Ours is replacing itself. This is something beyond ethnic hatred and nearer to total loss of control.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Alden

    Those who’ve brought them and are bringing them haven’t last control at all, quite the contrary.

    They needed a Caste System to retain control and they’ve imported and continue to import just the people for the job.

    What was the first thing the Senate did (with Unanimous Consent!) the minute they thought (correctly?) they were free of Trump (i.e. the electorate)?

    Eliminated the country caps to bring in the Brahmins.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Desiderius

    Soros and the brothers Koch might not be in trouble (when are they?) but everyone under them is. Indians at their best are about as good as Jews in every field Jews consider theirs. I'm not talking about top financiers but things like playwrights. There is of course much more variety of ability given the population size, but for the same reason, there's more than enough to displace every last Mamet, Brooks, Sulzberger, etc.. Then, just as the mainstream popular discussion is a closed echo chamber for a vanishingly small stripe of Marxism, our media opinion formation will be a gaggle of Indians talking to each other.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  60. @PiltdownMan
    @anonymous


    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is .
     
    https://i.imgur.com/jE11Txb.jpg


    Now you do.

    Replies: @jsm, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Anon7, @El Dato, @Brutusale

    Ouch! That hurt my eye!

  61. @PiltdownMan
    @anonymous


    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is .
     
    https://i.imgur.com/jE11Txb.jpg


    Now you do.

    Replies: @jsm, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Anon7, @El Dato, @Brutusale

    She seems nice.

  62. @PiltdownMan
    @anonymous


    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is .
     
    https://i.imgur.com/jE11Txb.jpg


    Now you do.

    Replies: @jsm, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Anon7, @El Dato, @Brutusale

    Isn’t it weird how people around the world have learned to approximate the European smile?

  63. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    Derb mentioned that the delay in getting Batson’s resignation was enough for him to lawyer up and negotiate a severance. Of course, the grovelling confession is part of such deals.

    Derb also mentioned that the vast majority of acedemics are such spineless twits that it wouldn’t surprise him if Batson just caved. But Batson has to know he’s now unemployable in his field. Could he be that clueless regarding all the consequences? Or does an appropriate grovel get you a small chance to work as a part time instructor at a community college?

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @mikeInThe716


    Or does an appropriate grovel get you a small chance to work as a part time instructor at a community college?
     
    He should go back to practicing law, or just retire. Even community college students know how to use the internet, and he's easy pickins.
    , @EdwardM
    @mikeInThe716

    Not so sure about that. Would an adjunct typically get a severance? I thought most were on short-term arrangements. I don’t see that lawyering up would work as he probably has no leverage in his contract.

    Maybe the administration dragged their feet for, what, a day or so, to see how the winds were blowing (as if there was any doubt).

    Would the university see in any benefit in getting a public grovel out of him in exchange for some pittance, as opposed to just dismissing him unceremoniously? Do they perceive any value in appearing to give their contractors at least some opportunity, real or perceived, to make their case to administration? Does anyone in management worry about the work climate, or even feel secretly that humiliating him and forcing him out is wrong? Are there any grown-ups there, or is all the administration frothing-at-the mouth lunatics reveling in getting another scalp?

    I can see how it would be rational for him to apologize but I am quite curious what the law school brass were thinking.

  64. Anon[233] • Disclaimer says:

    Off Topic: State of Utah embroiled in battle over marriage rights in Israel.

    In Israel, marriage rights have been a hotly contested debate for years. The country doesn’t permit civil marriages and will not allow religious marriages unless certain criteria are met. For example, both parties need to be Jewish. However, to be considered Jewish, the individual’s mother needs to have been Jewish; if the bride or groom’s mother wasn’t Jewish, then the child is not technically considered Jewish under Israeli law. Interfaith marriages performed in the country are not recognized under Israeli law, however, any civil marriages done outside the country are legally recognized.

    Basically Israeli marriage laws are – still, in CurrentYear – old school anti-miscegenation laws combined with a religious component. The sorts of stuff that Hollywood is still making movies about…when it was happening 60 years ago, in the American South.

    During the COVID pandemic, apparently the Utah County Clerk (Provo, BYU, etc.) started performing marriages online. So Israelis who can’t legally get married in Israel for…reasons…began getting legally married in Utah County, since Israel will recognize marriages performed outside of the country. Usually these couples would have to travel and have their marriages performed outside of the country to do that.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anon

    Given the giant "we recognize foreign marriages loophole" the marriage law was not much of an impediment. Cyrus is a 1 hr./$100 flight away.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    Off Topic: State of Utah embroiled in battle over marriage rights in Israel.

     

    Can Jews in Israel marry their nieces, or does Rhode Island have to get involved?

    During the COVID pandemic, apparently the Utah County Clerk (Provo, BYU, etc.) started performing marriages online.
     
    "If there is anyone present logged in who can show just cause why these two persons may not be joined in matrimony, speak enter now or forever hold your peace key.
  65. @Shouting Thomas
    @AndrewR

    Yet another possibility is that the groveler wants to find another job.

    The accused are often effectively blacklisted from their profession.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @BB753

    The only way to survive in academia is to become a whore.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @BB753

    And increasingly, in other places as well.

  66. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    Replies: @Liza, @bomag, @AndrewR, @Hans, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Hans


    The Dirty Secret of Black on Asian Violence is Out
     
    Ha! 2010. And now it's back 'in' again, if by 'in' we mean 'out of sight'.
  67. @Chrisnonymous
    Solzhenitsyn's schema makes fine distinctions like those found in Dante's hell and heaven because, as he says, he sees the line between good and evil passing through the heart of every man.

    “I understand, however, that I missed the chance to respond in a more direct manner to address the inappropriate content of those remarks,” Batson said. “For this I sincerely apologize.”
     
    From the fine-slicing perspective, this groveling law professor doesn't deserve to be classed with the Gulag's silent non-denouncers.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Kronos

    His “First Circle” book very much incorporated that.

  68. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    Replies: @Liza, @bomag, @AndrewR, @Hans, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    The cleverer Asians can practice a little wokejudo.

    Blacks are far from either the most bolted down people, nor the most racially liberal.

    So as Asians play up their “anti-Asian racism” trope, the hyper-sensitivity of wokeism–the most trivial of comments generating calls for cancellation–Asians should be able to find offenses from lots of teat sucking blacks and use them to knock these black parasites out of their comfy sinecures. This should actually improve the performance of public institutions–like schools–and make them more amenable to the concerns of Asians. Big win for them.

    Unfortunately, for us legacy Americans, Jewish minoritarianism is precisely designed so that there’s one group that can not use this maneuver–white gentiles. Blacks, Jews, Asians spouting anti-white nonsense–peachy. Anti-white-gentilism is allowed–even encouraged–even in someplace where we are now a minority.

  69. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    He could have said, “well . . . I was thinking about the fact that blacks are about one standard deviations below whites on measured intelligence, and doing the math in my head . . .”

    Might as well go out in a blaze of glory.

    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Hypnotoad666


    Might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
     
    Agree.

    I'm trying to come up with a response that might let him pass but loads up on maximum Bad-think:

    I am shocked, shocked!, that you would suggest such things. I, personally, am very much in line with current thinking on such matters. But I was reading some unfiltered internet comments, and there were a disturbingly large number of comments that discussed the poor performance of Blacks, many from seemingly reasonable people. It got me thinking that where there is smoke, there is fire, so I quickly realized that I must redouble my efforts in curating my thoughts. I take seriously the first lesson in the Bible where humans ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and were punished severely. I certainly don't want the secular gods I worship to ban me from today's Garden.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  70. @Franz

    By Janhvi Bhojwani and Nicole Acevedo
     
    Not entirely off-topic but...

    Have Old Stock Americans been completely cut out of the media? There were once reporters and columnists with names like Lewis, Smith, Pegler, Jones and now there isn't.

    They keep saying subscriptions are falling. Because the names on the masthead are alien?

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Dumbo, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    Readership is falling off because the zombies aren’t being taught to read much less write comprehensive sentences.

    When texting is your primary form or written communication. Being able to read much less write sentences more than a few words long can hurt the communicators brain, or what’s left of it.

    • Agree: Franz
  71. @anon
    @AndrewR


    grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all
     
    The best response would be " Lol wut ?" on twitter.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “on twitter”

    Should serious people even be on Twitter? I ask this as a non-serious person who resisted the temptation to join the platform because I knew my tendency to view all humans, especially babies, as complete creeps, would lead to problems for my chocolate-covered banana business. Except for a few bright bulbs — Greenwald, Sailer, Webb, Fang, Taibbi, unkempt Tracey — Twitter, and all social media, has diluted the legitimacy of professional journalism.

  72. Kiss my ass.

    Has anyone recently used the Goetz von Berlichingen riposte to an unfair accusation, a frame-up, a stitch-up?

  73. “Shouldve said ‘Damn dem niggaz is dumb!’”

  74. Goodbye you lily livered POS. So your silence got you cancelled. Your remark to her should have been…”Ain’t that the truth.” Operative word here is “truth”, as in documented, actual fact.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Buffalo Joe

    Agreed. His groveling apology sucked, too. If he didn't know how to apologize in a way that totally turned the tables on his enemies, he deserved to lose his job.

    "I'm sorry my apparent silence was so totally misunderstood and misrepresented."

    I wouldn't have given them a micrometer more than that.

  75. “He knew, but he didn’t tell.”

    Or “Silence Equals Violence”, in our more contemporary lingo.

    • Agree: Polistra
  76. @Desiderius
    @J.Ross

    Those who've brought them and are bringing them haven't last control at all, quite the contrary.

    They needed a Caste System to retain control and they've imported and continue to import just the people for the job.

    What was the first thing the Senate did (with Unanimous Consent!) the minute they thought (correctly?) they were free of Trump (i.e. the electorate)?

    Eliminated the country caps to bring in the Brahmins.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Soros and the brothers Koch might not be in trouble (when are they?) but everyone under them is. Indians at their best are about as good as Jews in every field Jews consider theirs. I’m not talking about top financiers but things like playwrights. There is of course much more variety of ability given the population size, but for the same reason, there’s more than enough to displace every last Mamet, Brooks, Sulzberger, etc.. Then, just as the mainstream popular discussion is a closed echo chamber for a vanishingly small stripe of Marxism, our media opinion formation will be a gaggle of Indians talking to each other.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @J.Ross

    At that point it won’t be ours at all. Domestically we still have some pull, but we keep supporting (tacitly or otherwise) those who no longer think in domestic terms and have said forthrightly that there should no longer be any such thing.

    One would think the Jews of all people would have some interest in preserving this particular domicile and the one we carved out for them in the Holy Land. By all indications they think they’re too big for that now. They should think again. And not just the Jews.

  77. anonymous[669] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all. If I’m getting fired no matter what I say, I’m gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    I believe the answer is that they don’t know the obvious lessons from all of the previous incidents because these people do not know about the previous incidents.

    People like these two adjuncts, who are also practicing successful lawyers in DC, probably exist in a Blue Church bubble where they get their information from CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, and the BezosPost. The don’t know about the dozens of similar incidents to theirs, where people have been unfairly blacklisted and ruined because of violating some ridiculous and ever-changing Orwellian speech norms, because such incidents are ignored by these media outlets. They don’t know about it and their friends and colleagues don’t know about it. These things are only covered in conservative media and blogs.

    They think they are part of the good, smart team (team Blue), and they have no knowledge of the ridiculous things that the good smart team has actually been up to lately. So when their boss Dean, who they know is also on the good smart team, calls them in to the office and tells them that they have been very bad, behaving like the bad racist people, they half believe it. They have no context for considering that the Dean and the whole good smart team is actually the ridiculous team where people are losing their jobs left and right for looking at someone wrong (or even for what a family member does in the case of the mom of that Atlanta cop being forced from her job at a bank.)

    Maybe once everyone on team Blue personally knows someone who this has happened to they will wise up and stop groveling when this hits them, and instead say nothing and lawyer up, but until then, I’m not holding my breath.

    • Agree: Houston 1992, vhrm
    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @anonymous

    Yeah, that last thing's not going to happen. We've seen many examples of people who will throw their nearest and dearest under the bus; the better, they think, to save their own skin and demonstrate their own bona fides.

    Insert: final scene of Body Snatchers.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @anonymous

    "I believe the answer is that they don’t know the obvious lessons from all of the previous incidents because these people do not know about the previous incidents."

    This has been going on for over 30 years. Everyone in academia has known about it forever.

    Replies: @anonymous

  78. @Hypnotoad666
    @AndrewR

    He could have said, "well . . . I was thinking about the fact that blacks are about one standard deviations below whites on measured intelligence, and doing the math in my head . . ."

    Might as well go out in a blaze of glory.

    Replies: @bomag

    Might as well go out in a blaze of glory.

    Agree.

    I’m trying to come up with a response that might let him pass but loads up on maximum Bad-think:

    I am shocked, shocked!, that you would suggest such things. I, personally, am very much in line with current thinking on such matters. But I was reading some unfiltered internet comments, and there were a disturbingly large number of comments that discussed the poor performance of Blacks, many from seemingly reasonable people. It got me thinking that where there is smoke, there is fire, so I quickly realized that I must redouble my efforts in curating my thoughts. I take seriously the first lesson in the Bible where humans ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and were punished severely. I certainly don’t want the secular gods I worship to ban me from today’s Garden.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @bomag


    I’m trying to come up with a response that might let him pass but loads up on maximum Bad-think:
     
    How about: "I was reflecting on the unique evil and power of White Supremacy, which is so powerful that it actually lowers the IQs of black students through no fault of their own. White Supremacy is so insidious that it even hides how it works. So we haven't yet been able to identify the exact way that black IQs are destroyed by Whiteness. But the effect is so powerful that it appears constantly throughout history and throughout every part of the world. Man, White Supremacy is really the worst, isn't it?"
  79. @Achmed E. Newman
    @astrolabe

    Nah, I think he's trying to weasel out and, as Polistra wrote, doing it in a way that he may be able to still get through HR and stay employed somewhere else in the field.

    That's brings up the problem Peak Stupidity pointed out years ago. Even Ivy League Professor Americans often live paycheck-to-paycheck (with some money in hard-to-get-at 401-k's etc). You can't take a stand when you need money coming in within a month or you'll be behind on the house, the BMWs, the old school loans, etc...

    Replies: @bomag, @Alden

    You can’t take a stand when you need money coming in within a month or you’ll be behind on the house, the BMWs, the old school loans, etc…

    Highlights the issue of needing a support group — like minded family, friends, and community that will tide you over and keep you on your feet.

    Does the Left worry about the wolf-at-the-door? They seem to have plenty of landing spots for those pushed out of a position for various outrageous behaviors.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  80. Anonymous[671] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “He knew, but he didn’t tell.”

     

    A person could get whiplash going from "Don't ask, don't tell" to "If you see something, say something" and back-- and forth and back and forth.


    Is Eurasia the Whom this week, or Eastasia?


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/c3/ac/f2c3ac64baed7c93cb147f3b14315b25.png

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @kaganovitch

    “Know, Don’t Tell” would be a great motto for current cognitively loaded professions/classes. Let proles be the kamikaze accusers to winnow the field, via Instagram, TikTok, NYTimes.com etc. Fake community rituals and weaponized esprit de corps are now good form, old sport

  81. Anonymous[671] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    Replies: @Liza, @bomag, @AndrewR, @Hans, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    I like to think I have good BIPOC instrument rating but was surprised how slow I was to put together that the SF Vice whatever is Black. With her turtleneck and hipster glasses she completely passed for my image of a Bay Area wokerado; now I realize, she couldn’t have gotten to this present echelon of obnoxious behavior without a solid piece of Black-papal dispensation

  82. @JohnnyWalker123
    I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    I wonder. Hmmm.....

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Peter Akuleyev, @Charles St. Charles, @Kylie

    “I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    I wonder. Hmmm…..”

    I wonder if you wonder.*

    *Name that movie!

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Kylie


    I wonder if you wonder.*

    *Name that movie!
     
    The Lion in Winter?

    Replies: @Kylie

  83. Yeah, I get it. My god, they were upset that black students were doing badly. And by some twisted reasoning, that’s bad.

    On the other hand, just as a thought experiment, imagine if everything was equal, instead of equitable, perfect meritocracy.

    Then the colleges and law schools and technical schools would have no blacks. Nor whites. They would be filled to the gills with Indians and Chinese and that’s all.

    Would you like that? Will you like being ruled over by an uber-class of Asians?

    This is the fly in your perfect ointment, scientific racists. It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality, because you are blacks, viewed relative to Asians.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @obwandiyag

    ob, if every Asian and dot Indian in this country, of college age, wanted to go to college, and was admitted, there would still be plenty of places for qualified Whites. They would add extra places to accomodate blacks.

    , @El Dato
    @obwandiyag

    What's that racist talk doing on this respectable blog? This is not Twitter!


    It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality, because you are blacks, viewed relative to Asians.
     
    In the eyes of who and who even favours "perfect meritocratic equality" if such a thing could even exist?
    , @bomag
    @obwandiyag


    It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality...
     
    Maybe not, but we can be honest about it and discuss advocating on the basis of race and ethnicity qua race and ethnicity instead of pretending that I'm a genius superhero except for other people holding me back by looking at me funny.
    , @e
    @obwandiyag

    Asians are higher performing in math but not higher in verbal than whites, right?

    Replies: @J.Ross

  84. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    The correct response for the cancelled is to drag down the canceller with you. Perhaps it turns out that, when you gave each a phone call after the controversy started, the head of HR and the board of governors both offered you sex in exchange for keeping your job, and it is your rightful duty in the name of #metoo to expose this on every social media platform.

    • Replies: @Elsewhere
    @AShartIsBorn

    Unfortunately this wouldn't work, as once you are accused of being a racist, you no longer have credibility, so your accusation wouldn't stick.

  85. @Anonymous
    "When suddenly and unexpectedly faced with such remarks, it is challenging to know how to appropriately respond,” he wrote. “In the moment, my heartfelt response was to point the discussion toward what I believe is our personal responsibility—to be aware of and respond to potential unconscious bias in all our undertakings."

    NO, MORON.
    The existence of "potential unconscious bias" is part of our human condition as animals.
    There is no "special" need to be aware of that. Thinking humans grasp this.
    Our "personal responsibility" ... or as Kant puts it our moral command... is to treat other individuals as ends-in-themselves.
    Being "aware" of "unconcscious bias" is WORSE THAN USELESS if you do not grasp what morality demands. Morality has literally nothing to do with acting in accord with or against such inner feelings.

    And yet the problem with this "professor" is not that he lacks a grasp of Kant, but rather that he is bereft of Aristotle. A man lacking courage is inclined to forsake all virtue.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Being “aware” of “unconcscious bias” is WORSE THAN USELESS if you do not grasp what morality demands. Morality has literally nothing to do with acting in accord with or against such inner feelings.

    Right.

    And of course, that’s why this totalitarian effort to root out or otherwise quash “unconscious bias” is not going to end well.

    Anybody can be “guilty” and anybody will. We’re approaching this particular precipice very very quickly.

    Actions and behavior are way more important that any set of thoughts, conscious or unconscious, or anywhere in between. But we’re becoming unmoored from this fundamental principle and civilization may collapse as a result.

  86. @Buffalo Joe
    Goodbye you lily livered POS. So your silence got you cancelled. Your remark to her should have been..."Ain't that the truth." Operative word here is "truth", as in documented, actual fact.

    Replies: @Kylie

    Agreed. His groveling apology sucked, too. If he didn’t know how to apologize in a way that totally turned the tables on his enemies, he deserved to lose his job.

    “I’m sorry my apparent silence was so totally misunderstood and misrepresented.”

    I wouldn’t have given them a micrometer more than that.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  87. @Peter Akuleyev
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this. Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this.

    And as we all know, the Soviet State was just peachy prior to 1937. A real paradise on Earth.

    Of course it was in the years leading up to then that the character of the Soviet State was established.

    Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.

    Less competent at what? Killing people? Is that a bad thing?

    No, they still seemed quite competent at that. Although perhaps they became a bit more circumspect about it.

  88. @Kylie
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "I wonder if there any other similarities between the Soviet ruling class and the American ruling class.

    I wonder. Hmmm….."

    I wonder if you wonder.*



    *Name that movie!

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I wonder if you wonder.*

    *Name that movie!

    The Lion in Winter?

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Mr. Anon

    "I wonder if you wonder.*

    *Name that movie!

    The Lion in Winter?"

    No but close in a weird kind of way.

    Double indemnity.

    https://youtu.be/ZKdcYnlkhx8

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  89. @Achmed E. Newman
    I appreciate the comparison between the old-time Commies and the modern ones, Steve.

    For some people, it could be their "Ahaaa!" moment. For most Americans, even "Conservatives", none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it ...

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    For some people, it could be their “Ahaaa!” moment. For most Americans, even “Conservatives”, none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it …

    And right on cue, here’s commenter Peter Akuleyev to give you shit about it.

    And, in answer to him, the term “Cultural Marxism” is perfectly appropriate. The Left took the intellectual machinery of marxism (such as it was) and re-fashioned it on the basis of race, rather than class, after they found out that the working class didn’t much care for Marxism. David Horowitz has explained it all very well in his books, based on his experience as a “New Left” insider.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Mr. Anon

    What is the point of using a term like "Cultural Marxism" instead of just simply saying "Leftist"? Marx was an issue when a foreign power was trying to undermine our country using Marxism as a cover for respectability. Since today the enemies are calling from inside the house, talking about "Marxism" is a waste of time and anachronistic. Horowitz was also writing from a Cold War perspective that is mostly irrelevant today.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon

    Right, Mr. Anon. Number one off of duckduckgo:


    Communism:

    n. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.

    n. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.

     
    Note, Peter, that these people also want to share your stuff. Note also that they use big authoritarian government to do so. Note lastly that there's nothing specific about class struggle in here.

    I know, Marx was all about classes and such, but this is the same deal using a different classification scheme. The gist of it is that the White Man gets nothing, nunca.

    Know these people by their actions, Peter. Mr. Sailer's quote of Solzhenitsyn was on the money, because that is exactly the way these people are behaving. They just haven't got us into the gulags yet due to GUNS. Do you remember THE most famous quote from The Gulag Archipelago? American better get that set in their minds, before we see history repeat (USSR for 70 years and Red China for 40+ of the hard-core.)

    Thank you Anonymous #357 too for explaining the uncanny continuity of Communism. I see it this way: Americans concentrated on the EXTERNAL Cold War, while the INTERNAL one was going on right in front of us, just about 20 years behind the former.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    , @rebel yell
    @Mr. Anon


    The Left took the intellectual machinery of marxism (such as it was) and re-fashioned it on the basis of race, rather than class, after they found out that the working class didn’t much care for Marxism.
     
    The 1972 election was a great turning point for the Left. McGovern ran as a New Left Liberal on all the culture issues but still on an Old Left union/working man foundation.
    America was given a definitive choice - the New Left agenda in its complete package or a more traditional politics as embodied by Nixon (moderately conservative, pragmatic, a bit shady).
    A super-majority of Americans gave a firm "No" to what the Left was offering.
    The Left came back from that defeat learning two lessons:
    1. The white American majority had to be replaced.
    2. Working class and war issues had to be dropped from the agenda.
    They've focused on culture wars and open borders ever since, and they've substantially won.
    This is best seen as an attack on democracy, i.e. majority rule. Rule by judicial edict, takeover of media and academic institutions and using them as a propaganda machine, mass illegal immigration - all of this is an attack on democracy.
    Take a look at "Democracy Now", the Chomskyite New Left news outlet. They've been attacking democracy for decades.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

  90. Anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:

    An old Soviet joke:

    Two ZeKa in gulag:
    – What were your convicted for?
    – Treason. What about you?
    – Laziness.
    – ???
    – Well, I and my brother in law were telling political joke one night. I thought to inform on him but decided that it’s late and I can always do it in the morning. Turned out the brother in law reported first.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  91. More, more, more of this. The worser it gets for the bourgeois left the better for the rest of us.

    And the chump can always driver Uber/Lyft like some of the rest of us.

  92. @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Soviet ruling class brought the children of Third World countries in to indoctrinate them, but it sent them back. Ours is replacing itself. This is something beyond ethnic hatred and nearer to total loss of control.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Alden

    That’s very true, good observation. We import indoctrinate and as soon as they graduate put them on the inside track to the ruling caste.

  93. @bomag
    @Hypnotoad666


    Might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
     
    Agree.

    I'm trying to come up with a response that might let him pass but loads up on maximum Bad-think:

    I am shocked, shocked!, that you would suggest such things. I, personally, am very much in line with current thinking on such matters. But I was reading some unfiltered internet comments, and there were a disturbingly large number of comments that discussed the poor performance of Blacks, many from seemingly reasonable people. It got me thinking that where there is smoke, there is fire, so I quickly realized that I must redouble my efforts in curating my thoughts. I take seriously the first lesson in the Bible where humans ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and were punished severely. I certainly don't want the secular gods I worship to ban me from today's Garden.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    I’m trying to come up with a response that might let him pass but loads up on maximum Bad-think:

    How about: “I was reflecting on the unique evil and power of White Supremacy, which is so powerful that it actually lowers the IQs of black students through no fault of their own. White Supremacy is so insidious that it even hides how it works. So we haven’t yet been able to identify the exact way that black IQs are destroyed by Whiteness. But the effect is so powerful that it appears constantly throughout history and throughout every part of the world. Man, White Supremacy is really the worst, isn’t it?”

    • LOL: bomag
  94. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, I get it. My god, they were upset that black students were doing badly. And by some twisted reasoning, that's bad.

    On the other hand, just as a thought experiment, imagine if everything was equal, instead of equitable, perfect meritocracy.

    Then the colleges and law schools and technical schools would have no blacks. Nor whites. They would be filled to the gills with Indians and Chinese and that's all.

    Would you like that? Will you like being ruled over by an uber-class of Asians?

    This is the fly in your perfect ointment, scientific racists. It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality, because you are blacks, viewed relative to Asians.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @El Dato, @bomag, @e

    ob, if every Asian and dot Indian in this country, of college age, wanted to go to college, and was admitted, there would still be plenty of places for qualified Whites. They would add extra places to accomodate blacks.

  95. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    Replies: @Liza, @bomag, @AndrewR, @Hans, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    Have you heard of Alexi McCammond?

    • Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Paperback Writer

    First I've heard of her. She's some sort of mulatto it appears.

    And more cracks form in the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  96. @Ripple Earthdevil
    Not entirely OT: It appears that a rift in the attempt to forge a black-Asian alliance to combat evil whitey and his evil racist whiteness has erupted smack-dab in the San Francisco Unified School District:

    San Francisco Officials Demand School Board VP’s Resignation Over ‘Racist, Anti-Asian’ Tweets

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/20/mayor-breed-leads-chorus-of-officials-calling-for-school-board-vps-resignation-over-anti-asian-tweets/

    The video displays the content of the tweets.

    Yes, those racist Anti-Asian tweets came from this proud black woman:

    https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-vice-president-alison-collins

    So yes, even empowered black women can get cancelled in 2021. Of course, once this all blows over they can go back to “only whites can be racist.”

    Replies: @Liza, @bomag, @AndrewR, @Hans, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    SF. Asians Hispanics and Whites have been victimized by a black criminal class for the last 80 years when they were brought from Texas and Louisiana to work in WW2 industries.

    But they still vote overwhelmingly hard left lunatic democrat. So f’em, let them enjoy the government they’ve voted in charge for almost a century.

  97. @PiltdownMan
    @anonymous


    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is .
     
    https://i.imgur.com/jE11Txb.jpg


    Now you do.

    Replies: @jsm, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Anon7, @El Dato, @Brutusale

    Trans women are women!

    Meanwhile in the UK:

    From “two weeks to flatten the curve” to “four years to flatten the curve”:

    Masks and distancing could be required for several more YEARS, British public health expert says

    Someone needs to go into the market for head-receptacles in form of pikes.

  98. @J.Ross
    @Peter Akuleyev

    For all its myriad flaws Communism defined everyone in terms of social class not race.

    This is only remotely true of refined theoretical Marxism. The Soviet Union was as overtly racist in policy as any other early twentieth century government. One of the primary images of the Spanish Civil War was the three-pointed red star near one white, one Fu Manchu yellow, and one Sambo black man. Chechens and Jews probably disagree with your assertion.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    I don’t remember the Soviet Union handing out gold stars to Chechens and Jews. The USSR persecuted both those groups for valuing their own ethnic identity more than their proletarian/Soviet identity. That is the opposite of what goes on in the US.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Okay so in other words you really are only concerned with a lawyer's academic quibble about "why," which grants my point. But from Marx judging "The Jews" to Stalin starving or deporting or internally deporting or imprisoning or killing people because of their last name to South American communists targeting certain groups to African Communists (in a move no one could have foreseen) reverting to tribalism, Communists are pretty much the biggest racists around. But, like you say, they're really when you think about it anti-racists, and it's the damn minorities demonstrating insufficient revolutionary consciousness that are the real problem.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

  99. @Achmed E. Newman
    @astrolabe

    Nah, I think he's trying to weasel out and, as Polistra wrote, doing it in a way that he may be able to still get through HR and stay employed somewhere else in the field.

    That's brings up the problem Peak Stupidity pointed out years ago. Even Ivy League Professor Americans often live paycheck-to-paycheck (with some money in hard-to-get-at 401-k's etc). You can't take a stand when you need money coming in within a month or you'll be behind on the house, the BMWs, the old school loans, etc...

    Replies: @bomag, @Alden

    Another great observation and comment.

    Here’s another. American middle and upper class life is essentially debt slavery. First the huge student loan payment, then the income taxes then the mortgage and property taxes or rent which is paying the landlords mortgage and property taxes then the car payments repairs insurance and gas to get to the job.

    The average American is either so low paid he might as well go on welfare or just a conduit pipe from the paycheck to taxes and debt payments, lifelong debt payments by the way.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Alden


    American middle and upper class life is essentially debt slavery.
     
    I heard a guy on the radio who sells cell phone insurance say that business is great because something like half the people in this country can't come up with $400 cash in an emergency.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  100. He Knew, But He Didn’t Tell

    The problem is he noticed.

  101. @Mr. Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    For some people, it could be their “Ahaaa!” moment. For most Americans, even “Conservatives”, none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it …
     
    And right on cue, here's commenter Peter Akuleyev to give you shit about it.

    And, in answer to him, the term "Cultural Marxism" is perfectly appropriate. The Left took the intellectual machinery of marxism (such as it was) and re-fashioned it on the basis of race, rather than class, after they found out that the working class didn't much care for Marxism. David Horowitz has explained it all very well in his books, based on his experience as a "New Left" insider.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Achmed E. Newman, @rebel yell

    What is the point of using a term like “Cultural Marxism” instead of just simply saying “Leftist”? Marx was an issue when a foreign power was trying to undermine our country using Marxism as a cover for respectability. Since today the enemies are calling from inside the house, talking about “Marxism” is a waste of time and anachronistic. Horowitz was also writing from a Cold War perspective that is mostly irrelevant today.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Peter Akuleyev


    What is the point of using a term like “Cultural Marxism” instead of just simply saying “Leftist”?
     
    What is the point of saying "Leftist" instead of saying "Cultural Marxist"? I have no objection to either term.

    What is the point of your objection, other than to have a nit to pick?

    Marx was an issue when a foreign power was trying to undermine our country using Marxism as a cover for respectability. Since today the enemies are calling from inside the house, talking about “Marxism” is a waste of time and anachronistic. Horowitz was also writing from a Cold War perspective that is mostly irrelevant today.
     
    You are wrong - on this as on so many things. Horowitz started writing about leftists in the 1990s, after the end of the Cold War. "Radical Son" was published in 1996. And what he wrote is as relevant today as it was then.
  102. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, I get it. My god, they were upset that black students were doing badly. And by some twisted reasoning, that's bad.

    On the other hand, just as a thought experiment, imagine if everything was equal, instead of equitable, perfect meritocracy.

    Then the colleges and law schools and technical schools would have no blacks. Nor whites. They would be filled to the gills with Indians and Chinese and that's all.

    Would you like that? Will you like being ruled over by an uber-class of Asians?

    This is the fly in your perfect ointment, scientific racists. It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality, because you are blacks, viewed relative to Asians.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @El Dato, @bomag, @e

    What’s that racist talk doing on this respectable blog? This is not Twitter!

    It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality, because you are blacks, viewed relative to Asians.

    In the eyes of who and who even favours “perfect meritocratic equality” if such a thing could even exist?

  103. @Anon
    Off Topic: State of Utah embroiled in battle over marriage rights in Israel.

    In Israel, marriage rights have been a hotly contested debate for years. The country doesn't permit civil marriages and will not allow religious marriages unless certain criteria are met. For example, both parties need to be Jewish. However, to be considered Jewish, the individual's mother needs to have been Jewish; if the bride or groom's mother wasn't Jewish, then the child is not technically considered Jewish under Israeli law. Interfaith marriages performed in the country are not recognized under Israeli law, however, any civil marriages done outside the country are legally recognized.
     
    Basically Israeli marriage laws are - still, in CurrentYear - old school anti-miscegenation laws combined with a religious component. The sorts of stuff that Hollywood is still making movies about...when it was happening 60 years ago, in the American South.

    During the COVID pandemic, apparently the Utah County Clerk (Provo, BYU, etc.) started performing marriages online. So Israelis who can't legally get married in Israel for...reasons...began getting legally married in Utah County, since Israel will recognize marriages performed outside of the country. Usually these couples would have to travel and have their marriages performed outside of the country to do that.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Given the giant “we recognize foreign marriages loophole” the marriage law was not much of an impediment. Cyrus is a 1 hr./$100 flight away.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    Given the giant “we recognize foreign marriages loophole” the marriage law was not much of an impediment. Cyrus is a 1 hr./$100 flight away.
     
    And you can get to Darius in 59m, Xerxes in 58m.

    The Israelis have really raised the bar on travel!

    Replies: @Alden

  104. @unit472
    How good a job is 'adjunct professor' at Georgetown law school anyway? Problem for Batson is he not only lost his job but his dignity and, as Ray Donovan once asked about his reputation, where can you go to get that back?

    Replies: @Barnard, @Prof. Woland

    It would be interesting to have an off the record talk with an ERISA attorney or someone who represents defendants about what the going rate is for various wrongful termination settlements. These terminations / resignations are probably handled like nuisance lawsuits where it is understood that it is cheaper to pay off the terminated professors rather than fight. Even though there are NDA everybody probably has a good idea of what the price is. Take the money and sign the contract or go for more and get a public legal fight.

  105. @Mr. Anon
    @Kylie


    I wonder if you wonder.*

    *Name that movie!
     
    The Lion in Winter?

    Replies: @Kylie

    “I wonder if you wonder.*

    *Name that movie!

    The Lion in Winter?”

    No but close in a weird kind of way.

    Double indemnity.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Kylie

    Good movie. It's been awhile since I've seen it.

  106. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Ok, here’s my Wikihow on DIY cancellation prevention while being a passive Zoom participant or How to Avoid Being Seen As The First Person to Stop Clapping While Using Zoom.

    1) Immediately go to your social media and add a rainbow flag to your profile and like posts by Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo.

    2) Have a camera kill switch on your laptop and practice using it.

    3) During a Zoom call when someone makes reference to a non-white racial group, no matter how innocuous, immediately say, “Sorry, could you repeat that? I missed what you said, my laptop is acting up since I spilled coffee on it this morning.”

    4) After the offender begins to repeat their comment interrupt with “hello… hello?” and lean into the laptop and then hit the kill switch.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  107. @Clyde
    David Batson ye old white dude.....No wonder they wanted him out. He has a good reputation as mediator for 40 years. So figure he is 65 years old or so.

    https://www.nadn.org/david-batson
    Biographical
    Mr. Batson has 40 years of professional experience assisting private and government parties resolve complex hazardous waste and environmental disputes. This includes over 30 years as an ADR neutral and consulting expert with service in 500+ environmental, natural resource, public policy, organization, and business disputes. He has served as an allocation specialist, convening neutral, and mediator at more than 100 hazardous waste sites, including contaminated riverine/estuarine sediment and groundwater sites, landfills, abandoned mines, and commercial/manufacturing facilities.

    As a nationally recognized expert in ADR and allocation practice, Mr. Batson is often called upon to provide testimony and consultation services in support of litigation in federal and state courts, including several of national significance. His services have involved consulting on negotiation strategy, preparation of expert reports, and depositional and trial testimony.

    Mr. Batson also has extensive experience facilitating formation and effectiveness of PRP Groups, including mediation of organizational agreements, consultation on negotiation with regulatory agencies, and conduct of PRP searches. In his former position as Senior Counsel with the EPA Office of Enforcement, he dealt with both legal and technical issues arising in the settlement of numerous hazardous waste sites. He also obtained substantial experience in enforcement procedures and policy regarding regulation of pollution of water, air, toxic substances, and solid and hazardous wastes pursuant to RCRA, CWA, SDWA, CAA, EPCRA, FIFRA, and TSCA.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    I am so sick and tired of environmental remediation laws. They accomplish nothing except to make lawyers rich.

    Leaching chemicals living underground beget lawyer-leeches living in penthouse apartments.

  108. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Mr. Anon

    What is the point of using a term like "Cultural Marxism" instead of just simply saying "Leftist"? Marx was an issue when a foreign power was trying to undermine our country using Marxism as a cover for respectability. Since today the enemies are calling from inside the house, talking about "Marxism" is a waste of time and anachronistic. Horowitz was also writing from a Cold War perspective that is mostly irrelevant today.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    What is the point of using a term like “Cultural Marxism” instead of just simply saying “Leftist”?

    What is the point of saying “Leftist” instead of saying “Cultural Marxist”? I have no objection to either term.

    What is the point of your objection, other than to have a nit to pick?

    Marx was an issue when a foreign power was trying to undermine our country using Marxism as a cover for respectability. Since today the enemies are calling from inside the house, talking about “Marxism” is a waste of time and anachronistic. Horowitz was also writing from a Cold War perspective that is mostly irrelevant today.

    You are wrong – on this as on so many things. Horowitz started writing about leftists in the 1990s, after the end of the Cold War. “Radical Son” was published in 1996. And what he wrote is as relevant today as it was then.

  109. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Franz

    More importantly, I think, is that the number of literate Old Stock Americans is dropping rapidly. The names on the masthead unfortunately reflect the readership rather well.

    Replies: @bomag

    Are the new overlords writing anything worth reading?

  110. @Tono Bungay
    @AndrewR

    What evidence do you have that these apologies "don't help you at all"? Perhaps his parting compensation is conditional on the apology. Perhaps his likelihood of ever getting rehired elsewhere is increased by his apology. Yes, it is revolting and nauseating, but it may unfortunately not be pointless.

    Replies: @Alden, @AShartIsBorn, @Nicholas Stix

    Adjunct professors are part timers with no status or rights. They can be fired at any time. They are at will employees. Like substitute teachers, they work on yearly contracts. The contracts can be renewed or not at the end of the year. Usually the colleges get rid of them by not renewing the contracts at the end of the school year.

    Adjunct professors are at the bottom in terms of pay or job security. They have no job security. Actually, they are lower than grad student teaching assistants.

    Law and medical schools, other grad schools are different in that there are no grad students teaching under grad students. The students are grad school professionals. So the teachers all must be lawyers members or former members of the State Bar.

    Adjunct law school professors are either working attorneys or retired. It’s not how they make a living. Adjunct prof at a prestige law school is something to add to their websites, bio blurb in the State Bar listing, membership net working, meet pretty women or men if they’re gay.

    Schools and students like them because they hope the adjuncts might be helpful in getting jobs. . And forming legal aid foundations to further destroy America and White America.

  111. @Mr. Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    For some people, it could be their “Ahaaa!” moment. For most Americans, even “Conservatives”, none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it …
     
    And right on cue, here's commenter Peter Akuleyev to give you shit about it.

    And, in answer to him, the term "Cultural Marxism" is perfectly appropriate. The Left took the intellectual machinery of marxism (such as it was) and re-fashioned it on the basis of race, rather than class, after they found out that the working class didn't much care for Marxism. David Horowitz has explained it all very well in his books, based on his experience as a "New Left" insider.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Achmed E. Newman, @rebel yell

    Right, Mr. Anon. Number one off of duckduckgo:

    Communism:

    n. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.

    n. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.

    Note, Peter, that these people also want to share your stuff. Note also that they use big authoritarian government to do so. Note lastly that there’s nothing specific about class struggle in here.

    I know, Marx was all about classes and such, but this is the same deal using a different classification scheme. The gist of it is that the White Man gets nothing, nunca.

    Know these people by their actions, Peter. Mr. Sailer’s quote of Solzhenitsyn was on the money, because that is exactly the way these people are behaving. They just haven’t got us into the gulags yet due to GUNS. Do you remember THE most famous quote from The Gulag Archipelago? American better get that set in their minds, before we see history repeat (USSR for 70 years and Red China for 40+ of the hard-core.)

    Thank you Anonymous #357 too for explaining the uncanny continuity of Communism. I see it this way: Americans concentrated on the EXTERNAL Cold War, while the INTERNAL one was going on right in front of us, just about 20 years behind the former.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Achmed E. Newman

    these people also want to share your stuff. Note also that they use big authoritarian government to do so.

    This idea predates Marxism by millennia, see the Roman Empire, Egypt, etc. Marxism was just a clever way to provide theft with intellectual cover. I still don't see much utility in equating Woke with Cultural Marxism since Woke is not being driven by the Comintern or European intellectuals. What clarity do you think you're gaining by calling it "Marxism" instead of simply something like "racially based favoritism", which is more accurate and sounds uglier to the normal American.

  112. Who cares, a couple of snobs got what’s coming to them. Both of those so called professors would have thrown any properly qualified white American student under the bus to get their needed quota and most importantly to look good among their academic peers (in-group). Do you really expect justice from trash like that. Thank god there is no judgeship in their futures!

  113. @theMann
    How much does it cost to rent a bulldozer? Because it would be better to just plow those "Institutions" under and start over, as to allow them to continue to spiritually and physically pollute our nation.

    Replies: @bomag

    LOL

    Can’t particularly disagree. The product is so degraded that no one wants to repair or maintain the thing, thus opening the way for scrappers to come in and install the “equity” curriculum.

  114. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    I don't remember the Soviet Union handing out gold stars to Chechens and Jews. The USSR persecuted both those groups for valuing their own ethnic identity more than their proletarian/Soviet identity. That is the opposite of what goes on in the US.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Okay so in other words you really are only concerned with a lawyer’s academic quibble about “why,” which grants my point. But from Marx judging “The Jews” to Stalin starving or deporting or internally deporting or imprisoning or killing people because of their last name to South American communists targeting certain groups to African Communists (in a move no one could have foreseen) reverting to tribalism, Communists are pretty much the biggest racists around. But, like you say, they’re really when you think about it anti-racists, and it’s the damn minorities demonstrating insufficient revolutionary consciousness that are the real problem.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    they’re really when you think about it anti-racists, and it’s the damn minorities demonstrating insufficient revolutionary consciousness that are the real problem.

    I'm not saying anything like that, and I am sure my anti-Communist credentials are a lot stronger than yours. I am saying the term "Cultural Marxism" is an outdated term and you using it shows you have not thought deeply about the issue at all but are still regurgitating useless Cold War tropes. You are right that some Marxist started pivoting to race issues in the 1980s when it became clear that they were losing badly on economic issues, but the Woke movement has deeper roots in American traditions like Abolitionism and foreign schools of anti-colonial (including Islamic) thought than it does in the Frankfurt School. The Cultural Marxists were at best parasites desperate to latch onto a wave that was moving without them.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  115. @Dumbo
    @Franz

    What are you talking about, old sport?
    Nothing says "Old Stock American" more than Jhan.. Jahn... Janhvi Blojahni.
    Part of the famous Blojahni family from New England, with ancient links to the Mayflower pilgrims.

    Replies: @Franz

    Part of the famous Blojahni family from New England, with ancient links to the Mayflower pilgrims.

    Ah… I think that was the old days, when everybody was proud of the USA and everybody had kin from the Mayflower, had some Cherokee blood, and their family included ancestors who wore Blue (daddy’s side) and Gray (mommy’s side) back in the 1860s.

    Those days must have been great. Before our time. Disney got protests when he staged the battle of the Alamo for a TV movie. In…. 1955!

  116. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, I get it. My god, they were upset that black students were doing badly. And by some twisted reasoning, that's bad.

    On the other hand, just as a thought experiment, imagine if everything was equal, instead of equitable, perfect meritocracy.

    Then the colleges and law schools and technical schools would have no blacks. Nor whites. They would be filled to the gills with Indians and Chinese and that's all.

    Would you like that? Will you like being ruled over by an uber-class of Asians?

    This is the fly in your perfect ointment, scientific racists. It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality, because you are blacks, viewed relative to Asians.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @El Dato, @bomag, @e

    It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality…

    Maybe not, but we can be honest about it and discuss advocating on the basis of race and ethnicity qua race and ethnicity instead of pretending that I’m a genius superhero except for other people holding me back by looking at me funny.

  117. @Sollipsist
    So the "active" offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments -- he specifically says the poor performance of his black students 'makes him crazy' which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.

    Meanwhile the "passive" offender was fired merely for not objecting strongly enough, which is so egregious that I'm disappointed that any professor of law would respond so submissively.

    Perhaps it's for the best in both cases; anyone with so little fight in them, or with so little commitment to basic fairness, probably shouldn't be serving as models for jurisprudence. And really, what further negative consequences are they trying to avoid by not making the obvious objections in their responses? At this point, they're damaged goods anyway...

    Replies: @bomag, @Polemos, @Muggles

    So the “active” offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments — he specifically says the poor performance of his black students ‘makes him crazy’ which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.

    Meanwhile the “passive” offender was fired merely for not objecting strongly enough, which is so egregious that I’m disappointed that any professor of law would respond so submissively.

    Yes, in the Stalinist era the accusations were the sum total of “justice.”

    If you blamed Troskyites then you were grilled on why you hadn’t already denounced them. If you blamed “wreckers” and the British spies, likewise. That meant you were in league with them.

    You might only get 10 years in the Gulag rather than 15 if you denounced friends and relatives, but you had to hurry up to do that.

    The moral silver lining in that, then as now, is that only the Communists (usually) and now grovelling Woke commie intelligentsia, were the victims. They grovel when accused because they are evil, not stupid. This is what they know.

    Robespierre was pretty Woke himself, while he lasted.

  118. This is social media fueled Cultural Revolution type hysteria….

    If this isn’t nipped in the bud now it’ll get crazier & more vicious….

    Start with the social media companies….pop their wallet…have Congress strip them from various litigation protections they enjoy…..

    • Replies: @AShartIsBorn
    @Neoconned

    That’d be lovely. It’ll never happen. US is now a one party Democrat forever state. It’ll get much much crazier and vicious. Humans have been genociding each other and our predecessors (RIP Neanderthals) for millennia. There is nothing preventing it from happening to us. The board has already been set, the pieces (mass immigration, affirmative action, demonization in the media, etc) are moving. Invest wisely and have multiple passports. There aren’t enough lifeboats for everyone aboard the Titanic.

  119. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, I get it. My god, they were upset that black students were doing badly. And by some twisted reasoning, that's bad.

    On the other hand, just as a thought experiment, imagine if everything was equal, instead of equitable, perfect meritocracy.

    Then the colleges and law schools and technical schools would have no blacks. Nor whites. They would be filled to the gills with Indians and Chinese and that's all.

    Would you like that? Will you like being ruled over by an uber-class of Asians?

    This is the fly in your perfect ointment, scientific racists. It is not in your own interest to favor perfect meritocratic equality, because you are blacks, viewed relative to Asians.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @El Dato, @bomag, @e

    Asians are higher performing in math but not higher in verbal than whites, right?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @e

    [North] East Asians are math and visuo-spatial.
    Jews are math and verbal.
    Sub-Continentals are math and verbal and TikTok.

  120. @Mr. Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    For some people, it could be their “Ahaaa!” moment. For most Americans, even “Conservatives”, none dare call it Communism, or Cultural Marxism. At least without being given shit on internet blogs about it …
     
    And right on cue, here's commenter Peter Akuleyev to give you shit about it.

    And, in answer to him, the term "Cultural Marxism" is perfectly appropriate. The Left took the intellectual machinery of marxism (such as it was) and re-fashioned it on the basis of race, rather than class, after they found out that the working class didn't much care for Marxism. David Horowitz has explained it all very well in his books, based on his experience as a "New Left" insider.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @Achmed E. Newman, @rebel yell

    The Left took the intellectual machinery of marxism (such as it was) and re-fashioned it on the basis of race, rather than class, after they found out that the working class didn’t much care for Marxism.

    The 1972 election was a great turning point for the Left. McGovern ran as a New Left Liberal on all the culture issues but still on an Old Left union/working man foundation.
    America was given a definitive choice – the New Left agenda in its complete package or a more traditional politics as embodied by Nixon (moderately conservative, pragmatic, a bit shady).
    A super-majority of Americans gave a firm “No” to what the Left was offering.
    The Left came back from that defeat learning two lessons:
    1. The white American majority had to be replaced.
    2. Working class and war issues had to be dropped from the agenda.
    They’ve focused on culture wars and open borders ever since, and they’ve substantially won.
    This is best seen as an attack on democracy, i.e. majority rule. Rule by judicial edict, takeover of media and academic institutions and using them as a propaganda machine, mass illegal immigration – all of this is an attack on democracy.
    Take a look at “Democracy Now”, the Chomskyite New Left news outlet. They’ve been attacking democracy for decades.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @rebel yell

    The actual playbook was formulated years before in Italy by Gramshi and publicized in this country by the father of our newly minted Dept of Commerce impresario!

    Replies: @Hibernian

  121. lol, have we deconstructed to the point that we feel sorry for lawyers? Or are we feeling sorry for goodwhites, that happen to be lawyers?

    They got fired BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE. The reason doesn’t matter, this was just an opportunity to knock off some (((white))) middle-age ‘Doctors of Jurisprudence’ who were the wrong color, but enjoyed decades of making money and gaining prestige while holding positions that should have rightly gone to da Blax. Before the crybabies get too weepy, please consider all the whites that are (not so) secretly glad these gatekeeping rent-seekers lost their jobs. Loving it that the NBC News story is credited to melanin-enriched ladies.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Tom F.

    What makes you so sure Sellers and Batson are Jewish?

  122. For the sake of my job, I hereby go on the record as denouncing any suggestion that Blacks have any difference academic performance. Any perceived difference must be due to unconscious bias, and might be remedied by slavery reparations.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Roger

    Roger, politicians actually run on a platform that mirrors 100% what you just said...and they win. Sad, huh?

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Roger

    Nobody here believes you, Roger. You've got to struggle against the big guys, Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz, and then maybe you keep your job.

    OK, next Steve Sailer post, I want to see you denounce our blogger in an epic struggle session:

    iRoger v iSteve: "Proposed: There is no such thing as race, only shiny happy people holding hands."

    No hitting below the belt, no Troll tagging, and no time-outs to write back to Corvinus.

  123. @Barnard
    @unit472

    Looks like he was one of those poor souls who thought he was making the world a better place by teaching after a long career. He is most likely fine financially, and I doubt too many people in his social circle will shun him for this.

    https://www.nadn.org/pdf/David-Batson.pdf

    Replies: @Kaz

    Yeah no one in a 50+ age group crowd is going to go around excommunicating old pals because they didn’t nimbly praise blacks enough..

    Young people are the ones tearing apart their friendships and familial bonds over verbal mishaps and thoughtcrimes.

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @Kaz

    This is why I hate Generation Z Zoomers!

    , @duncsbaby
    @Kaz


    Yeah no one in a 50+ age group crowd is going to go around excommunicating old pals because they didn’t nimbly praise blacks enough..
     
    I can think of probably 4 or 5 people in my 50+ cohort who would cut me off completely if I let them know my real opinion of black people. My very own big sis is a suburban liberal who is completely clueless about the different abilities of blacks despite almost daily confirmation of it in her own life. Her prog beliefs and her belief in the religious rightness of her prog beliefs win out over cold, dark reality every time.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

  124. @PiltdownMan
    @anonymous


    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is .
     
    https://i.imgur.com/jE11Txb.jpg


    Now you do.

    Replies: @jsm, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Anon7, @El Dato, @Brutusale

  125. @e
    @obwandiyag

    Asians are higher performing in math but not higher in verbal than whites, right?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    [North] East Asians are math and visuo-spatial.
    Jews are math and verbal.
    Sub-Continentals are math and verbal and TikTok.

  126. @Roger
    For the sake of my job, I hereby go on the record as denouncing any suggestion that Blacks have any difference academic performance. Any perceived difference must be due to unconscious bias, and might be remedied by slavery reparations.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Achmed E. Newman

    Roger, politicians actually run on a platform that mirrors 100% what you just said…and they win. Sad, huh?

  127. @mikeInThe716
    @AndrewR

    Derb mentioned that the delay in getting Batson's resignation was enough for him to lawyer up and negotiate a severance. Of course, the grovelling confession is part of such deals.

    Derb also mentioned that the vast majority of acedemics are such spineless twits that it wouldn't surprise him if Batson just caved. But Batson has to know he's now unemployable in his field. Could he be that clueless regarding all the consequences? Or does an appropriate grovel get you a small chance to work as a part time instructor at a community college?

    Replies: @Polistra, @EdwardM

    Or does an appropriate grovel get you a small chance to work as a part time instructor at a community college?

    He should go back to practicing law, or just retire. Even community college students know how to use the internet, and he’s easy pickins.

  128. @BB753
    @Shouting Thomas

    The only way to survive in academia is to become a whore.

    Replies: @Polistra

    And increasingly, in other places as well.

    • Agree: BB753
  129. @Hans
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    From 2010 The Dirty Secret of Black on Asian Violence is Out - https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Dirty-secret-of-black-on-Asian-violence-is-out-3265760.php

    Replies: @Polistra

    The Dirty Secret of Black on Asian Violence is Out

    Ha! 2010. And now it’s back ‘in’ again, if by ‘in’ we mean ‘out of sight’.

  130. @Kaz
    @Barnard

    Yeah no one in a 50+ age group crowd is going to go around excommunicating old pals because they didn't nimbly praise blacks enough..

    Young people are the ones tearing apart their friendships and familial bonds over verbal mishaps and thoughtcrimes.

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @duncsbaby

    This is why I hate Generation Z Zoomers!

  131. @Roger
    For the sake of my job, I hereby go on the record as denouncing any suggestion that Blacks have any difference academic performance. Any perceived difference must be due to unconscious bias, and might be remedied by slavery reparations.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Achmed E. Newman

    Nobody here believes you, Roger. You’ve got to struggle against the big guys, Mr. Sailer and Mr. Unz, and then maybe you keep your job.

    OK, next Steve Sailer post, I want to see you denounce our blogger in an epic struggle session:

    iRoger v iSteve: “Proposed: There is no such thing as race, only shiny happy people holding hands.

    No hitting below the belt, no Troll tagging, and no time-outs to write back to Corvinus.

    • LOL: Liza
  132. You DO realize that this all stemmed from one professor (the woman, Sellers) mentioning her regret and frustration that her lowest-achieving students, year after year, are black….yes?

    They’re burning the man, Batson, at the stake for not leaping to his feet to stop her, to further chide her, “No! It’s YOUR fault, for grading them so low!”

    (I immediately recalled the action-film spoof in the comedy KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE, in which two spies infiltrate the villain’s lair in disguise – they’re discussing their plans when the woman points to a flower-pot which is obviously a hidden microphone – her partner nods knowingly, then leans forward into the potted plant and says, with Cuomo-like slowneess, “Yes, we could….but-it-would-be-wrooong.”)

    And Steve, I’m surprised at you for leaving out the fecal icing on the cake – as a result of this non-outrage…..the woman was, after all, sad that these kids were such poor students….the Brotherhood of Offended Boogies, or whatever the student organization in question is officially called, is demanding that every black student she has ever had be retroactiely graded at the top of their class. (Naturally, the minute the school caves in to this demand – which they’re absolutely going to do – they’ll be buried under with lawsuits from bad lawyers, or possibly extra-mouthy fry cooks, claiming that D they got from Eva Braun in Intellectual Property Law back in 2011 ruined any chance they had to shake down Fortune 500 employers for what would surely have been extremely lucrative acts of systemic racism).

    The only silver lining in this story: neither the man nor the woman went through the humiliating charade of thanking their tormentors, and the cowards empowering them – though perhaps the cowards have carefully called dibs on oh thank you for this opportunity to confront my white horribleness and I swear to do better going forward, which is code for “I can keep job? I can has cheezburga?” – itself sworn testimony to how close to the civilizational drain we’re now circling.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Ragno


    They’re burning the man, Batson, at the stake for not leaping to his feet to stop her, to further chide her, “No! It’s YOUR fault, for grading them so low!”
     
    Is that it though? What exactly was Batson supposed to say here? It must have been either:

    Disagree with her claim that the bottom of her class tends to be blacks.

    Tell her that she should be more race blind and not care what color those at the bottom of her class are.
  133. The beat goes on….

    The Queen plans diversity drive: Royals will boost existing programmes as Harry and Meghan’s accusations of racism are blamed for ‘unproductive’ peace talks with William and Charles

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9384685/amp/Queen-plans-diversity-drive.html?__twitter_impression=true

  134. @rebel yell
    @Mr. Anon


    The Left took the intellectual machinery of marxism (such as it was) and re-fashioned it on the basis of race, rather than class, after they found out that the working class didn’t much care for Marxism.
     
    The 1972 election was a great turning point for the Left. McGovern ran as a New Left Liberal on all the culture issues but still on an Old Left union/working man foundation.
    America was given a definitive choice - the New Left agenda in its complete package or a more traditional politics as embodied by Nixon (moderately conservative, pragmatic, a bit shady).
    A super-majority of Americans gave a firm "No" to what the Left was offering.
    The Left came back from that defeat learning two lessons:
    1. The white American majority had to be replaced.
    2. Working class and war issues had to be dropped from the agenda.
    They've focused on culture wars and open borders ever since, and they've substantially won.
    This is best seen as an attack on democracy, i.e. majority rule. Rule by judicial edict, takeover of media and academic institutions and using them as a propaganda machine, mass illegal immigration - all of this is an attack on democracy.
    Take a look at "Democracy Now", the Chomskyite New Left news outlet. They've been attacking democracy for decades.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    The actual playbook was formulated years before in Italy by Gramshi and publicized in this country by the father of our newly minted Dept of Commerce impresario!

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Dan Hayes

    The incoming Secretary of Commerce is Gina Raimondo, Governor of Rhode Island and offspring of a middle class Italian-American family. (She got fairly rich in the financial services industry as an adult.) Do you mean Mayor Pete, Secretary of Transportation, son of a Notre Dame professor who was a Gramscian, or at least some kind of Communist anyway?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  135. I don’t think it matters whether I am believed or not. We are past the point where racism is judged by the intent of the speaker. What is important is that I recite the proper mantras.

  136. @anonymous
    @AndrewR


    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all. If I’m getting fired no matter what I say, I’m gonna go with the opposite of an apology.
     
    I believe the answer is that they don't know the obvious lessons from all of the previous incidents because these people do not know about the previous incidents.

    People like these two adjuncts, who are also practicing successful lawyers in DC, probably exist in a Blue Church bubble where they get their information from CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, and the BezosPost. The don't know about the dozens of similar incidents to theirs, where people have been unfairly blacklisted and ruined because of violating some ridiculous and ever-changing Orwellian speech norms, because such incidents are ignored by these media outlets. They don't know about it and their friends and colleagues don't know about it. These things are only covered in conservative media and blogs.

    They think they are part of the good, smart team (team Blue), and they have no knowledge of the ridiculous things that the good smart team has actually been up to lately. So when their boss Dean, who they know is also on the good smart team, calls them in to the office and tells them that they have been very bad, behaving like the bad racist people, they half believe it. They have no context for considering that the Dean and the whole good smart team is actually the ridiculous team where people are losing their jobs left and right for looking at someone wrong (or even for what a family member does in the case of the mom of that Atlanta cop being forced from her job at a bank.)

    Maybe once everyone on team Blue personally knows someone who this has happened to they will wise up and stop groveling when this hits them, and instead say nothing and lawyer up, but until then, I'm not holding my breath.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Nicholas Stix

    Yeah, that last thing’s not going to happen. We’ve seen many examples of people who will throw their nearest and dearest under the bus; the better, they think, to save their own skin and demonstrate their own bona fides.

    Insert: final scene of Body Snatchers.

  137. Were the statements truthful?

    Keep it down, don’t let them know their reality.

  138. @Polemos
    @Sollipsist


    So the “active” offender got fired for expressing what are clearly pro-black sentiments — he specifically says the poor performance of his black students ‘makes him crazy’ which to any reasonable person sounds like he truly wishes it were otherwise.
     
    He?

    Replies: @Sollipsist

    Sorry, I guess I was taking a hard line on preferred pronouns.

  139. @Jack D
    @Anon

    Given the giant "we recognize foreign marriages loophole" the marriage law was not much of an impediment. Cyrus is a 1 hr./$100 flight away.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Given the giant “we recognize foreign marriages loophole” the marriage law was not much of an impediment. Cyrus is a 1 hr./$100 flight away.

    And you can get to Darius in 59m, Xerxes in 58m.

    The Israelis have really raised the bar on travel!

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Alden
    @AnotherDad

    Good opportunity for Jordan. Set up non denominator civil wedding chapels right in the border, complete with artificial flowers and rental big white wedding gowns and various extras, even a chuppah and wine glass in a pouch . Like Californians Utah locals running off to Nevada for a cheap fast wedding.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

  140. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    If I’m getting fired no matter what I say, I’m gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    For an adjunct law professor, that might affect his day job, maybe even the way judges, if he does any trial work, view him.

  141. @Clyde
    OT
    Pulitzer Prize-winning author Phillip Roth could get CANCELED after his biographers posthumously reveal his 'misogyny and sexual depravity'
    Phillip Roth could face getting cancelled after his biographers posthumously revealed allegations from his life reflecting misogyny seen in his books
    The Pulitzer Prize-winning author, who died in 2018, was known for penning novels filled with 'enormous rage and disappointment with womenkind'
    Now, two separate biographers have claimed revelations of his real life 'sex and depravity' could spur a reassessment of work
    Ira Nadel, author of Philip Roth: A Counterlife, wrote that Roth was 'as sexually obsessed in real life as he was in literature'
    Blake Bailey, for his authorized Philip Roth: The Biography, received independence and complete access from the author himself
    In his book, Bailey claims Roth visited London brothels and chose female students to attend a seminar based on their attractiveness
    In a visit to London, Roth allegedly went looking for Chinese prostitutes and allegedly said: 'God, I'm fond of adultery'

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Colin Wright

    Monkey see, Monkey do…

  142. @AShartIsBorn
    @AndrewR

    The correct response for the cancelled is to drag down the canceller with you. Perhaps it turns out that, when you gave each a phone call after the controversy started, the head of HR and the board of governors both offered you sex in exchange for keeping your job, and it is your rightful duty in the name of #metoo to expose this on every social media platform.

    Replies: @Elsewhere

    Unfortunately this wouldn’t work, as once you are accused of being a racist, you no longer have credibility, so your accusation wouldn’t stick.

  143. @Tom F.
    lol, have we deconstructed to the point that we feel sorry for lawyers? Or are we feeling sorry for goodwhites, that happen to be lawyers?

    They got fired BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE. The reason doesn't matter, this was just an opportunity to knock off some (((white))) middle-age 'Doctors of Jurisprudence' who were the wrong color, but enjoyed decades of making money and gaining prestige while holding positions that should have rightly gone to da Blax. Before the crybabies get too weepy, please consider all the whites that are (not so) secretly glad these gatekeeping rent-seekers lost their jobs. Loving it that the NBC News story is credited to melanin-enriched ladies.

    Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil

    What makes you so sure Sellers and Batson are Jewish?

  144. @Dan Hayes
    @rebel yell

    The actual playbook was formulated years before in Italy by Gramshi and publicized in this country by the father of our newly minted Dept of Commerce impresario!

    Replies: @Hibernian

    The incoming Secretary of Commerce is Gina Raimondo, Governor of Rhode Island and offspring of a middle class Italian-American family. (She got fairly rich in the financial services industry as an adult.) Do you mean Mayor Pete, Secretary of Transportation, son of a Notre Dame professor who was a Gramscian, or at least some kind of Communist anyway?

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    The incoming Secretary of Commerce is Gina Raimondo...
     
    Any relation to Justin?

    Governor of Rhode Island and

     

    Providence Plantations, until recently.


    https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/XTAUGYDq7WJtB-fvY7QwBQ2moxM=/1024x0/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/bostonglobe/EKILRFK7FVDVXC7HUC65ZNRMFI.jpg


    Do you mean Mayor Pete, Secretary of Transportation...
     
    Don't tell Pete the meaning of transportation in the UK and Australia. It'll go to his head.


    https://libapps-au.s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/accounts/142323/images/black-eyed_sue.jpg

    Replies: @duncsbaby

  145. @Anon
    Off Topic: State of Utah embroiled in battle over marriage rights in Israel.

    In Israel, marriage rights have been a hotly contested debate for years. The country doesn't permit civil marriages and will not allow religious marriages unless certain criteria are met. For example, both parties need to be Jewish. However, to be considered Jewish, the individual's mother needs to have been Jewish; if the bride or groom's mother wasn't Jewish, then the child is not technically considered Jewish under Israeli law. Interfaith marriages performed in the country are not recognized under Israeli law, however, any civil marriages done outside the country are legally recognized.
     
    Basically Israeli marriage laws are - still, in CurrentYear - old school anti-miscegenation laws combined with a religious component. The sorts of stuff that Hollywood is still making movies about...when it was happening 60 years ago, in the American South.

    During the COVID pandemic, apparently the Utah County Clerk (Provo, BYU, etc.) started performing marriages online. So Israelis who can't legally get married in Israel for...reasons...began getting legally married in Utah County, since Israel will recognize marriages performed outside of the country. Usually these couples would have to travel and have their marriages performed outside of the country to do that.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Off Topic: State of Utah embroiled in battle over marriage rights in Israel.

    Can Jews in Israel marry their nieces, or does Rhode Island have to get involved?

    During the COVID pandemic, apparently the Utah County Clerk (Provo, BYU, etc.) started performing marriages online.

    “If there is anyone present logged in who can show just cause why these two persons may not be joined in matrimony, speak enter now or forever hold your peace key.

  146. @Hibernian
    @Dan Hayes

    The incoming Secretary of Commerce is Gina Raimondo, Governor of Rhode Island and offspring of a middle class Italian-American family. (She got fairly rich in the financial services industry as an adult.) Do you mean Mayor Pete, Secretary of Transportation, son of a Notre Dame professor who was a Gramscian, or at least some kind of Communist anyway?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The incoming Secretary of Commerce is Gina Raimondo…

    Any relation to Justin?

    Governor of Rhode Island and

    Providence Plantations, until recently.

    Do you mean Mayor Pete, Secretary of Transportation…

    Don’t tell Pete the meaning of transportation in the UK and Australia. It’ll go to his head.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Reg Cæsar

    Holy Cow, does this mean the British drinking classes were tits-out in the early 1800's? Interesting.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  147. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this. Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this. Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.

    Stalin’s alleged “purge of the Jewish element” in reality is more like Harvard capping its Jewish enrollment at 10%—or at 90%, with 10% reserved to African Americans.

    There have been plenty of Jews in powerful positions in the Soviet Union, from 1937 to present day.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Stalin turned anti-Semitic around 1948 because visiting Golda Meir seemed more popular with Soviet Jews than he did.

    Replies: @Anon, @Peter Akuleyev

  148. @AndrewR
    @Reg Cæsar

    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don't help you at all. If I'm getting fired no matter what I say, I'm gonna go with the opposite of an apology.

    Replies: @Firefinga, @anon, @astrolabe, @astrolabe, @Tono Bungay, @John Pepple, @Shouting Thomas, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Pop Warner, @mikeInThe716, @Hypnotoad666, @anonymous, @AShartIsBorn, @Hibernian, @AnotherDad

    Late to this thread, but i’ll toss it out there.

    Obviously the zeroth order deal is–if you work directly or indirectly from some organization and value that, then don’t discuss this stuff in any reproduceable medium.

    But what is odd to me is that neither of these “professors” bothered to say the words “Affirmative Action”.

    If you’re caught mentioning black academic mediocrity … those should be the first words out of your mouth. Because then you’re talking about something the organization did, not blacks.

    “Georgetown Law practices Affirmative Action to admit promising blacks with lower LSAT than our white and Asian students, but doesn’t seem to give many of them the support and mentoring to be able to compete on a level playing field with higher scoring students. We professors are left holding the bag, without the time nor resources to help these students, who often as a result are at the bottom of the our classes.”

    That’s not something Georgetown wants to have discussed. They’d rather have it be “you’re a racist”. Screw them. Make it about them, not you.

  149. @Anon
    @Peter Akuleyev


    The Soviet Ruling class was not Jewish, at least not after 1937, if that’s where you are going with this. Stalin basically purged the Jewish element. Interestingly, that just made things even worse and less competent.
     
    Stalin’s alleged “purge of the Jewish element” in reality is more like Harvard capping its Jewish enrollment at 10%—or at 90%, with 10% reserved to African Americans.

    There have been plenty of Jews in powerful positions in the Soviet Union, from 1937 to present day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Stalin turned anti-Semitic around 1948 because visiting Golda Meir seemed more popular with Soviet Jews than he did.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Steve Sailer


    Stalin turned anti-Semitic around 1948 because visiting Golda Meir seemed more popular with Soviet Jews than he did.
     
    Has anyone written on whether the Zionist movement influenced Hitler’s perspective on Jews?

    Replies: @Muggles

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Steve Sailer

    The purges in the 1930s were to a large extent a revolution from below where ethic Russians were able to displace the Jews who had taken power in the Bolshevik Revolution, as well as destroy the remnants of the pre-revolutionary upper middle class. This is one reason why Stalin is still fairly popular with ethnic Russians.

  150. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    Given the giant “we recognize foreign marriages loophole” the marriage law was not much of an impediment. Cyrus is a 1 hr./$100 flight away.
     
    And you can get to Darius in 59m, Xerxes in 58m.

    The Israelis have really raised the bar on travel!

    Replies: @Alden

    Good opportunity for Jordan. Set up non denominator civil wedding chapels right in the border, complete with artificial flowers and rental big white wedding gowns and various extras, even a chuppah and wine glass in a pouch . Like Californians Utah locals running off to Nevada for a cheap fast wedding.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Alden

    Have you been to or seen Jordan? I don't think they could organize a drainage ditch, let alone a small wedding industry for Israelis.

  151. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Stalin turned anti-Semitic around 1948 because visiting Golda Meir seemed more popular with Soviet Jews than he did.

    Replies: @Anon, @Peter Akuleyev

    Stalin turned anti-Semitic around 1948 because visiting Golda Meir seemed more popular with Soviet Jews than he did.

    Has anyone written on whether the Zionist movement influenced Hitler’s perspective on Jews?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Anon


    Has anyone written on whether the Zionist movement influenced Hitler’s perspective on Jews?
     
    The answer is "yes" but I haven't read about it in detail.

    What I recall about that is that during the middle 30s there were Zionist leaders of various types (some Polish I think, others perhaps already resident in British controlled Palestine) who visited Germany (after arrangements) and talked to some Nazi officials about this idea.

    Not sure of the details. However at the time the Brits were very unhappy with the idea of Zionism to "Israel" and considered the few who advocated it terrorists or at least disrupters. They wanted the status quo because the Arabs were already unhappy about the Picot-Sykes treaty (between the UK and France) to carve up controlled satellites in the former Ottoman Empire, post WWI (Turks were on the German side, lost).

    So the Brits didn't want to upset the local Arabs, who feared a Jewish influx of foreigners.

    Since in the mid-30s to the start of WWII Hitler was wooing the British and decided Zionism would just aggravate them. Not helpful for his proposed German-British anti Russian "alliance" idea.

    So these discussions didn't lead anywhere though some Nazi leaders thought it might solve "the Jewish problem" in Europe. So, Zionism "maybe later."
  152. @Reg Cæsar

    “He knew, but he didn’t tell.”

     

    A person could get whiplash going from "Don't ask, don't tell" to "If you see something, say something" and back-- and forth and back and forth.


    Is Eurasia the Whom this week, or Eastasia?


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/c3/ac/f2c3ac64baed7c93cb147f3b14315b25.png

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @kaganovitch

    Is Eurasia the Whom this week, or Eastasia?

    I think we can all agree that whatever the who/whom merits here, it is always problematic to use a Dr. Seuss illustration to make one’s point.

  153. @Anon
    ...and then they came for dead misogynistic Jewish writers and I said, “Meh.”

    Pulitzer Prize-winning author Phillip Roth could get CANCELED after his biographers posthumously reveal his 'misogyny' amid claims of his sexual 'depravity' in real life

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9384995/Phillip-Roth-face-getting-cancelled-biographers-posthumously-reveal-misogyny.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed&ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed
     

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    Better buy your Philip Roth Library of America editions while you still can!

  154. @Kaz
    @Barnard

    Yeah no one in a 50+ age group crowd is going to go around excommunicating old pals because they didn't nimbly praise blacks enough..

    Young people are the ones tearing apart their friendships and familial bonds over verbal mishaps and thoughtcrimes.

    Replies: @Luzzatto, @duncsbaby

    Yeah no one in a 50+ age group crowd is going to go around excommunicating old pals because they didn’t nimbly praise blacks enough..

    I can think of probably 4 or 5 people in my 50+ cohort who would cut me off completely if I let them know my real opinion of black people. My very own big sis is a suburban liberal who is completely clueless about the different abilities of blacks despite almost daily confirmation of it in her own life. Her prog beliefs and her belief in the religious rightness of her prog beliefs win out over cold, dark reality every time.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @duncsbaby

    I have several 60+ older family members like this as well, including my own mother who has called me a racist for bringing up black on white crime, or saying they underperform at school, and many (not all) of the ones I have dealt with personally over 20+ years of work have to be constantly watched and ridden to keep on task, not steal, show up on time, not get into fights with coworkers who point out a mistake or criticize the end quality of their work, etc. The funniest part to me is that none of my woke family members live anywhere near blacks and have almost zero interactions with them other than when they go to the grocery store or some other fairly professional setting.

    Replies: @vhrm

  155. anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ragno
    You DO realize that this all stemmed from one professor (the woman, Sellers) mentioning her regret and frustration that her lowest-achieving students, year after year, are black....yes?

    They're burning the man, Batson, at the stake for not leaping to his feet to stop her, to further chide her, "No! It's YOUR fault, for grading them so low!"

    (I immediately recalled the action-film spoof in the comedy KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE, in which two spies infiltrate the villain's lair in disguise – they're discussing their plans when the woman points to a flower-pot which is obviously a hidden microphone – her partner nods knowingly, then leans forward into the potted plant and says, with Cuomo-like slowneess, “Yes, we could....but-it-would-be-wrooong.”)

    And Steve, I'm surprised at you for leaving out the fecal icing on the cake - as a result of this non-outrage.....the woman was, after all, sad that these kids were such poor students....the Brotherhood of Offended Boogies, or whatever the student organization in question is officially called, is demanding that every black student she has ever had be retroactiely graded at the top of their class. (Naturally, the minute the school caves in to this demand - which they're absolutely going to do - they'll be buried under with lawsuits from bad lawyers, or possibly extra-mouthy fry cooks, claiming that D they got from Eva Braun in Intellectual Property Law back in 2011 ruined any chance they had to shake down Fortune 500 employers for what would surely have been extremely lucrative acts of systemic racism).

    The only silver lining in this story: neither the man nor the woman went through the humiliating charade of thanking their tormentors, and the cowards empowering them - though perhaps the cowards have carefully called dibs on oh thank you for this opportunity to confront my white horribleness and I swear to do better going forward, which is code for "I can keep job? I can has cheezburga?" - itself sworn testimony to how close to the civilizational drain we're now circling.

    Replies: @anonymous

    They’re burning the man, Batson, at the stake for not leaping to his feet to stop her, to further chide her, “No! It’s YOUR fault, for grading them so low!”

    Is that it though? What exactly was Batson supposed to say here? It must have been either:

    Disagree with her claim that the bottom of her class tends to be blacks.

    Tell her that she should be more race blind and not care what color those at the bottom of her class are.

  156. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    The incoming Secretary of Commerce is Gina Raimondo...
     
    Any relation to Justin?

    Governor of Rhode Island and

     

    Providence Plantations, until recently.


    https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/XTAUGYDq7WJtB-fvY7QwBQ2moxM=/1024x0/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/bostonglobe/EKILRFK7FVDVXC7HUC65ZNRMFI.jpg


    Do you mean Mayor Pete, Secretary of Transportation...
     
    Don't tell Pete the meaning of transportation in the UK and Australia. It'll go to his head.


    https://libapps-au.s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/accounts/142323/images/black-eyed_sue.jpg

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    Holy Cow, does this mean the British drinking classes were tits-out in the early 1800’s? Interesting.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @duncsbaby


    Holy Cow, does this mean the British drinking classes were tits-out in the early 1800’s?
     
    Only among the proto-Australians!
  157. @Clyde
    OT
    Pulitzer Prize-winning author Phillip Roth could get CANCELED after his biographers posthumously reveal his 'misogyny and sexual depravity'
    Phillip Roth could face getting cancelled after his biographers posthumously revealed allegations from his life reflecting misogyny seen in his books
    The Pulitzer Prize-winning author, who died in 2018, was known for penning novels filled with 'enormous rage and disappointment with womenkind'
    Now, two separate biographers have claimed revelations of his real life 'sex and depravity' could spur a reassessment of work
    Ira Nadel, author of Philip Roth: A Counterlife, wrote that Roth was 'as sexually obsessed in real life as he was in literature'
    Blake Bailey, for his authorized Philip Roth: The Biography, received independence and complete access from the author himself
    In his book, Bailey claims Roth visited London brothels and chose female students to attend a seminar based on their attractiveness
    In a visit to London, Roth allegedly went looking for Chinese prostitutes and allegedly said: 'God, I'm fond of adultery'

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Colin Wright

    ‘…Ira Nadel, author of Philip Roth: A Counterlife, wrote that Roth was ‘as sexually obsessed in real life as he was in literature’
    Blake Bailey, for his authorized Philip Roth: The Biography, received independence and complete access from the author himself
    In his book, Bailey claims Roth visited London brothels and chose female students to attend a seminar based on their attractiveness
    In a visit to London, Roth allegedly went looking for Chinese prostitutes and allegedly said: ‘God, I’m fond of adultery’’

    This obsession with sex is noticeably commonplace among Jews. Roth, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Weinstein, Dershowitz, Epstein, Isaac Bashevis Singer…Isaac Merritt Singer too.

    Thinking about it, it seems to apply to several of the Jews I’ve known as well. I mean, of course it’s important to all of us, but…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    That's why there's no sex in any books by the very WASPy John Updike.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Colin Wright, @Jim Christian

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright


    This obsession with sex is noticeably commonplace among Jews... Isaac Bashevis Singer…Isaac Merritt Singer too.
     
    Howe?

    And sew what? I don't follow your thread, even if it leaves the others in stitches.

    Has there been a serge in such activity of late? Don't embroider the truth. That would be unseamly.

    A-hem... I'll quilt while I'm ahead...

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  158. @anonymous
    @AndrewR


    What always amazes me is that no one learns any lessons from these incidents: namely, that grovelling, nauseating apologies don’t help you at all. If I’m getting fired no matter what I say, I’m gonna go with the opposite of an apology.
     
    I believe the answer is that they don't know the obvious lessons from all of the previous incidents because these people do not know about the previous incidents.

    People like these two adjuncts, who are also practicing successful lawyers in DC, probably exist in a Blue Church bubble where they get their information from CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, and the BezosPost. The don't know about the dozens of similar incidents to theirs, where people have been unfairly blacklisted and ruined because of violating some ridiculous and ever-changing Orwellian speech norms, because such incidents are ignored by these media outlets. They don't know about it and their friends and colleagues don't know about it. These things are only covered in conservative media and blogs.

    They think they are part of the good, smart team (team Blue), and they have no knowledge of the ridiculous things that the good smart team has actually been up to lately. So when their boss Dean, who they know is also on the good smart team, calls them in to the office and tells them that they have been very bad, behaving like the bad racist people, they half believe it. They have no context for considering that the Dean and the whole good smart team is actually the ridiculous team where people are losing their jobs left and right for looking at someone wrong (or even for what a family member does in the case of the mom of that Atlanta cop being forced from her job at a bank.)

    Maybe once everyone on team Blue personally knows someone who this has happened to they will wise up and stop groveling when this hits them, and instead say nothing and lawyer up, but until then, I'm not holding my breath.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Nicholas Stix

    “I believe the answer is that they don’t know the obvious lessons from all of the previous incidents because these people do not know about the previous incidents.”

    This has been going on for over 30 years. Everyone in academia has known about it forever.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Nicholas Stix

    People have been getting fired for errant Tweets, blog posts, and secretly recorded Zoom calls for over three decades?

  159. @Paperback Writer
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    Have you heard of Alexi McCammond?

    Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil

    First I’ve heard of her. She’s some sort of mulatto it appears.

    And more cracks form in the Coalition of the Fringes.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Ripple Earthdevil


    And more cracks form in the Coalition of the Fringes.

     

    Wishful thinking. These are not cracks, it's the Revolution refining itself and creating more extreme specimens. Did the Revolution in Iran fail? I'm old enough to remember it. All the smart people said it'll be over in a year or two. Most of the early Revolutionists were killed, as happened in Russia. That's the way revolutions happen.
  160. @Colin Wright
    @Clyde

    '...Ira Nadel, author of Philip Roth: A Counterlife, wrote that Roth was ‘as sexually obsessed in real life as he was in literature’
    Blake Bailey, for his authorized Philip Roth: The Biography, received independence and complete access from the author himself
    In his book, Bailey claims Roth visited London brothels and chose female students to attend a seminar based on their attractiveness
    In a visit to London, Roth allegedly went looking for Chinese prostitutes and allegedly said: ‘God, I’m fond of adultery’'


    This obsession with sex is noticeably commonplace among Jews. Roth, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Weinstein, Dershowitz, Epstein, Isaac Bashevis Singer...Isaac Merritt Singer too.

    Thinking about it, it seems to apply to several of the Jews I've known as well. I mean, of course it's important to all of us, but...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar

    That’s why there’s no sex in any books by the very WASPy John Updike.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Steve Sailer

    Lol! Updike's references to sex are cringeworthy. Neurotic is not erotic.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer

    'That’s why there’s no sex in any books by the very WASPy John Updike.'

    It is a matter of frequency and degree. I think that if one looks directly at it, it's pretty hard to deny.

    Maybe it's not bad. But it is there.

    , @Jim Christian
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, Mario Puzo who wrote The Godfather spent probably 40 pages out of 750 detailing Big Dick Sonny Corleone's adventures with Lucy Mancini, his mistress. He spent several more telling of her later sexual adventures with a gynecologist in Vegas who lined her up for (post-Sonny Corleone) vaginal-tightening surgery. A riot and a lot not permissible today. Not depraved, but detailed for sure. Puzo is/was Goyim, Steve, no? I've heard that Hollywood and the mobsters really weren't happy about a lot of the content in Godfather, but you probably heard more than we ever did. I know the guy who played Johnny Fontaine in the movie found scant prospects after, especially in the studio and movies. Frank Sinatra did that I guess. But there were lots of things, no? Spill. We know you got da goods.

  161. @J.Ross
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Okay so in other words you really are only concerned with a lawyer's academic quibble about "why," which grants my point. But from Marx judging "The Jews" to Stalin starving or deporting or internally deporting or imprisoning or killing people because of their last name to South American communists targeting certain groups to African Communists (in a move no one could have foreseen) reverting to tribalism, Communists are pretty much the biggest racists around. But, like you say, they're really when you think about it anti-racists, and it's the damn minorities demonstrating insufficient revolutionary consciousness that are the real problem.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    they’re really when you think about it anti-racists, and it’s the damn minorities demonstrating insufficient revolutionary consciousness that are the real problem.

    I’m not saying anything like that, and I am sure my anti-Communist credentials are a lot stronger than yours. I am saying the term “Cultural Marxism” is an outdated term and you using it shows you have not thought deeply about the issue at all but are still regurgitating useless Cold War tropes. You are right that some Marxist started pivoting to race issues in the 1980s when it became clear that they were losing badly on economic issues, but the Woke movement has deeper roots in American traditions like Abolitionism and foreign schools of anti-colonial (including Islamic) thought than it does in the Frankfurt School. The Cultural Marxists were at best parasites desperate to latch onto a wave that was moving without them.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Peter Akuleyev


    but the Woke movement has deeper roots in American traditions like Abolitionism and foreign schools of anti-colonial (including Islamic) thought than it does in the Frankfurt School. The Cultural Marxists were at best parasites desperate to latch onto a wave that was moving without them.
     
    Oh please.

    How someone can blather about this and try and pretend it has nothing to do with the rise of the Jews and their pushing minoritarianism--including the Frankfurt School--is beyond me.

    Yes, Wokeism taps into strands--and psychological tendencies--of American Puritanism. But as i've pointed out many times:

    a) The position of 20th century WASP progressivism was not "blacks be mad at whites!" it was "blacks you should be like whites". (Actually it was "everyone should behave like a sober respectible middle class WASP.)

    b) As a simple demographic/cultural matter New England Puritans--their Unitarian and the like descendants--did not surge to prominence in the 60s ... rather they declined in relative power and influence giving way to the Jews marching into their WASPy institutions.


    That these--now tiny!--Puritan remnants (Unitarians, United Church of Christ) and similar abolitionist types (Quakers) are fully woke, no doubt. That they are creators and big propagandists of the minoritarian ideology that is now dominant in America and has been pushed out to the Anglo-sphere and the broader West ... is just ridiculous.

    Yeah, we have minoritarianism because of all the Puritans in Hollyweird, in the NYT and national media, and dominating political ideology in our universities.
  162. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon

    Right, Mr. Anon. Number one off of duckduckgo:


    Communism:

    n. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.

    n. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.

     
    Note, Peter, that these people also want to share your stuff. Note also that they use big authoritarian government to do so. Note lastly that there's nothing specific about class struggle in here.

    I know, Marx was all about classes and such, but this is the same deal using a different classification scheme. The gist of it is that the White Man gets nothing, nunca.

    Know these people by their actions, Peter. Mr. Sailer's quote of Solzhenitsyn was on the money, because that is exactly the way these people are behaving. They just haven't got us into the gulags yet due to GUNS. Do you remember THE most famous quote from The Gulag Archipelago? American better get that set in their minds, before we see history repeat (USSR for 70 years and Red China for 40+ of the hard-core.)

    Thank you Anonymous #357 too for explaining the uncanny continuity of Communism. I see it this way: Americans concentrated on the EXTERNAL Cold War, while the INTERNAL one was going on right in front of us, just about 20 years behind the former.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    these people also want to share your stuff. Note also that they use big authoritarian government to do so.

    This idea predates Marxism by millennia, see the Roman Empire, Egypt, etc. Marxism was just a clever way to provide theft with intellectual cover. I still don’t see much utility in equating Woke with Cultural Marxism since Woke is not being driven by the Comintern or European intellectuals. What clarity do you think you’re gaining by calling it “Marxism” instead of simply something like “racially based favoritism”, which is more accurate and sounds uglier to the normal American.

  163. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Stalin turned anti-Semitic around 1948 because visiting Golda Meir seemed more popular with Soviet Jews than he did.

    Replies: @Anon, @Peter Akuleyev

    The purges in the 1930s were to a large extent a revolution from below where ethic Russians were able to displace the Jews who had taken power in the Bolshevik Revolution, as well as destroy the remnants of the pre-revolutionary upper middle class. This is one reason why Stalin is still fairly popular with ethnic Russians.

  164. @anonymous
    I don't know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is . That name gives me a shamefully xenophobic pause for reflection. At least I can take comfort in assuming his or her parents have a higher IQ than mine and entered this country legally.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Grahamsno(G64), @Reg Cæsar

    That’s an upper caste Indian surname, I don’t know if its my confirmation bias but there are so many Indians in print media in US & UK as their names are easy to identify.

  165. @Ripple Earthdevil
    @Paperback Writer

    First I've heard of her. She's some sort of mulatto it appears.

    And more cracks form in the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    And more cracks form in the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Wishful thinking. These are not cracks, it’s the Revolution refining itself and creating more extreme specimens. Did the Revolution in Iran fail? I’m old enough to remember it. All the smart people said it’ll be over in a year or two. Most of the early Revolutionists were killed, as happened in Russia. That’s the way revolutions happen.

  166. @Pop Warner
    @AndrewR

    Cucking to the mob might not be entirely useless. Even though he resigned, a Georgetown professor (especially a white guy) is probably pretty credentialed and can find work elsewhere - maybe less prestigious than Georgetown but a position that will put food on the table. By groveling he might have an opportunity to get hired in the future, when this blows over and people largely forget about it. Were he to make no apologies and even go on the attack against his tormentors, there would be zero chance of ever working in academia. It's no guarantee, but in the former scenario he at least has a chance at future employment.

    This is how the neoliberal religion demands repentance; he might be absolved of his sins if he shows complete contrition and genuflects to his betters. And since he probably isn't a race realist then doubling down is out of the question in his mind. He is a faithful caught committing heresy, and it will probably weigh on his conscience for life.

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @stillCARealist

    Hey, Pops, always a decent read, you. It’s DC, he may have access to lots of think tanks and the policy-cookers they employ. From Brookings to CATO and all the ones up and down the alphabet, plus the policy-cookers, he may find a job in the basement next to the boiler, but it depends on his specialties and published works which these guys have in abundance. Depends also on his financial state, too. In a month we’ll remember it happened, but not the name. HR on the other hand…

    • Thanks: Pop Warner
  167. The average repeat-offending orc knows more about the legal system than the two numbskull perfessers.

  168. @Nicholas Stix
    @anonymous

    "I believe the answer is that they don’t know the obvious lessons from all of the previous incidents because these people do not know about the previous incidents."

    This has been going on for over 30 years. Everyone in academia has known about it forever.

    Replies: @anonymous

    People have been getting fired for errant Tweets, blog posts, and secretly recorded Zoom calls for over three decades?

  169. @mikeInThe716
    @AndrewR

    Derb mentioned that the delay in getting Batson's resignation was enough for him to lawyer up and negotiate a severance. Of course, the grovelling confession is part of such deals.

    Derb also mentioned that the vast majority of acedemics are such spineless twits that it wouldn't surprise him if Batson just caved. But Batson has to know he's now unemployable in his field. Could he be that clueless regarding all the consequences? Or does an appropriate grovel get you a small chance to work as a part time instructor at a community college?

    Replies: @Polistra, @EdwardM

    Not so sure about that. Would an adjunct typically get a severance? I thought most were on short-term arrangements. I don’t see that lawyering up would work as he probably has no leverage in his contract.

    Maybe the administration dragged their feet for, what, a day or so, to see how the winds were blowing (as if there was any doubt).

    Would the university see in any benefit in getting a public grovel out of him in exchange for some pittance, as opposed to just dismissing him unceremoniously? Do they perceive any value in appearing to give their contractors at least some opportunity, real or perceived, to make their case to administration? Does anyone in management worry about the work climate, or even feel secretly that humiliating him and forcing him out is wrong? Are there any grown-ups there, or is all the administration frothing-at-the mouth lunatics reveling in getting another scalp?

    I can see how it would be rational for him to apologize but I am quite curious what the law school brass were thinking.

  170. @Henry Canaday
    Masada Liberalism rides again.

    Last summer, I frequently walked down to a Georgetown coffee shop that always had the Georgetown University college newspaper on display. Every issue I read, almost every article was devoted to this woke identity hypersensitivity nonsense, the pretended taking of offense at trivial actions or statements and then the scramble to do penance for the fake-offended. That was all the newspaper covered.

    Replies: @Clyde, @stillCARealist

    Sounds just like the Daily Cal that I read at UC Berkeley in the 80’s. It’s probably the same funders, the same type of publishers that are still pushing this stuff.

  171. @Old Prude
    @astrolabe

    The grovelling apology is the first step in finding new employment in the Borg. A hearty FU would not be a good career move, even if it would be good for the soul.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  172. @Pop Warner
    @AndrewR

    Cucking to the mob might not be entirely useless. Even though he resigned, a Georgetown professor (especially a white guy) is probably pretty credentialed and can find work elsewhere - maybe less prestigious than Georgetown but a position that will put food on the table. By groveling he might have an opportunity to get hired in the future, when this blows over and people largely forget about it. Were he to make no apologies and even go on the attack against his tormentors, there would be zero chance of ever working in academia. It's no guarantee, but in the former scenario he at least has a chance at future employment.

    This is how the neoliberal religion demands repentance; he might be absolved of his sins if he shows complete contrition and genuflects to his betters. And since he probably isn't a race realist then doubling down is out of the question in his mind. He is a faithful caught committing heresy, and it will probably weigh on his conscience for life.

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @stillCARealist

    What gets me is that likely EVERY professor in America has noticed this pattern. It’s either, “why are all my black students at the bottom?” or “why don’t I have many… or any… black students in here?”

    It’s not like this is a brand new problem.

    I took microbiology in college, a relatively easy and fun course. It was required for plenty of life science majors and had a ton of students. I remember zero blacks, even though the larger campus had a highly visible black presence. Did my professor, a sweet old woman, ever wonder about that?

    Maybe what would have saved these Gtown profs is if they never had black students to begin with. Then they wouldn’t notice their low scores.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @stillCARealist


    I took microbiology in college, a relatively easy and fun course.
     
    Microbiology sounds very difficult. How could this have been an easy course?
  173. @Alden
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Another great observation and comment.

    Here’s another. American middle and upper class life is essentially debt slavery. First the huge student loan payment, then the income taxes then the mortgage and property taxes or rent which is paying the landlords mortgage and property taxes then the car payments repairs insurance and gas to get to the job.

    The average American is either so low paid he might as well go on welfare or just a conduit pipe from the paycheck to taxes and debt payments, lifelong debt payments by the way.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    American middle and upper class life is essentially debt slavery.

    I heard a guy on the radio who sells cell phone insurance say that business is great because something like half the people in this country can’t come up with $400 cash in an emergency.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jim Don Bob


    I heard a guy on the radio who sells cell phone insurance say that business is great because something like half the people in this country can’t come up with $400 cash in an emergency.
     
    Suze Orman: Don’t Spend or Invest Your Stimulus — Do This Instead
  174. @Alden
    @AnotherDad

    Good opportunity for Jordan. Set up non denominator civil wedding chapels right in the border, complete with artificial flowers and rental big white wedding gowns and various extras, even a chuppah and wine glass in a pouch . Like Californians Utah locals running off to Nevada for a cheap fast wedding.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Have you been to or seen Jordan? I don’t think they could organize a drainage ditch, let alone a small wedding industry for Israelis.

  175. @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    That's why there's no sex in any books by the very WASPy John Updike.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Colin Wright, @Jim Christian

    Lol! Updike’s references to sex are cringeworthy. Neurotic is not erotic.

  176. @J.Ross
    @Desiderius

    Soros and the brothers Koch might not be in trouble (when are they?) but everyone under them is. Indians at their best are about as good as Jews in every field Jews consider theirs. I'm not talking about top financiers but things like playwrights. There is of course much more variety of ability given the population size, but for the same reason, there's more than enough to displace every last Mamet, Brooks, Sulzberger, etc.. Then, just as the mainstream popular discussion is a closed echo chamber for a vanishingly small stripe of Marxism, our media opinion formation will be a gaggle of Indians talking to each other.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    At that point it won’t be ours at all. Domestically we still have some pull, but we keep supporting (tacitly or otherwise) those who no longer think in domestic terms and have said forthrightly that there should no longer be any such thing.

    One would think the Jews of all people would have some interest in preserving this particular domicile and the one we carved out for them in the Holy Land. By all indications they think they’re too big for that now. They should think again. And not just the Jews.

  177. David Batson, an adjunct professor

    And you know what ‘adjunct’ means – no tenure, and now he’ll never get within a mile of it. (As compared to thousands of black ‘academics’ handed tenure for their joke ‘disciplines’ like they were racial-appeasement door prizes. Which they are.) Can you imagine how white-knuckle furious he is at dumbass Sellers for dragging him under with her? Or at himself for not simply hitting the STOP button the minute the class had ended?

    Though technically, tenured or not, he still enjoys special protections that no other kind of salaried employee does. It turns out Georgetown has “directly violated the policies and standards of the AAUP by dismissing a professor mid-semester without any hearing or due process.” Of course, people have a tendency to forget their rights when they huddled in a corner, shivering and covering their face defensively with both arms.

    I can’t help but feel for the poor bastard Batson. Now he know what a white man feels like in Dying America every day. Though it’s getting harder and harder to put up with the overdramatic acting-out of black aggressors playing the victim during what any credible historian will correctly note is a Negro Belle Epoque – the greatest golden age in their history, minus invented wonderlands like “Wakanda”, and bogus kinship with Persians and Egyptians.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ragno


    Though technically, tenured or not, he still enjoys special protections that no other kind of salaried employee does.
     
    SCOTUS ruled that private universities' faculty cannot unionize because they are management, but public universities' can, because they are labor. That may be the only significant difference between the two anymore.
  178. @Tono Bungay
    @AndrewR

    What evidence do you have that these apologies "don't help you at all"? Perhaps his parting compensation is conditional on the apology. Perhaps his likelihood of ever getting rehired elsewhere is increased by his apology. Yes, it is revolting and nauseating, but it may unfortunately not be pointless.

    Replies: @Alden, @AShartIsBorn, @Nicholas Stix

    Apologies are admissions of guilt. Always viciously attack back, never apologize.

  179. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @AndrewR

    He's not groveling to keep his job. He's groveling so he can work someplace else and not be blacklisted forever.

    Replies: @AShartIsBorn

    He should sue them instead and live off the settlement.

  180. anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist
    @Pop Warner

    What gets me is that likely EVERY professor in America has noticed this pattern. It's either, "why are all my black students at the bottom?" or "why don't I have many... or any... black students in here?"

    It's not like this is a brand new problem.

    I took microbiology in college, a relatively easy and fun course. It was required for plenty of life science majors and had a ton of students. I remember zero blacks, even though the larger campus had a highly visible black presence. Did my professor, a sweet old woman, ever wonder about that?

    Maybe what would have saved these Gtown profs is if they never had black students to begin with. Then they wouldn't notice their low scores.

    Replies: @anonymous

    I took microbiology in college, a relatively easy and fun course.

    Microbiology sounds very difficult. How could this have been an easy course?

  181. @Neoconned
    This is social media fueled Cultural Revolution type hysteria....

    If this isn't nipped in the bud now it'll get crazier & more vicious....

    Start with the social media companies....pop their wallet...have Congress strip them from various litigation protections they enjoy.....

    Replies: @AShartIsBorn

    That’d be lovely. It’ll never happen. US is now a one party Democrat forever state. It’ll get much much crazier and vicious. Humans have been genociding each other and our predecessors (RIP Neanderthals) for millennia. There is nothing preventing it from happening to us. The board has already been set, the pieces (mass immigration, affirmative action, demonization in the media, etc) are moving. Invest wisely and have multiple passports. There aren’t enough lifeboats for everyone aboard the Titanic.

  182. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    they’re really when you think about it anti-racists, and it’s the damn minorities demonstrating insufficient revolutionary consciousness that are the real problem.

    I'm not saying anything like that, and I am sure my anti-Communist credentials are a lot stronger than yours. I am saying the term "Cultural Marxism" is an outdated term and you using it shows you have not thought deeply about the issue at all but are still regurgitating useless Cold War tropes. You are right that some Marxist started pivoting to race issues in the 1980s when it became clear that they were losing badly on economic issues, but the Woke movement has deeper roots in American traditions like Abolitionism and foreign schools of anti-colonial (including Islamic) thought than it does in the Frankfurt School. The Cultural Marxists were at best parasites desperate to latch onto a wave that was moving without them.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    but the Woke movement has deeper roots in American traditions like Abolitionism and foreign schools of anti-colonial (including Islamic) thought than it does in the Frankfurt School. The Cultural Marxists were at best parasites desperate to latch onto a wave that was moving without them.

    Oh please.

    How someone can blather about this and try and pretend it has nothing to do with the rise of the Jews and their pushing minoritarianism–including the Frankfurt School–is beyond me.

    Yes, Wokeism taps into strands–and psychological tendencies–of American Puritanism. But as i’ve pointed out many times:

    a) The position of 20th century WASP progressivism was not “blacks be mad at whites!” it was “blacks you should be like whites”. (Actually it was “everyone should behave like a sober respectible middle class WASP.)

    b) As a simple demographic/cultural matter New England Puritans–their Unitarian and the like descendants–did not surge to prominence in the 60s … rather they declined in relative power and influence giving way to the Jews marching into their WASPy institutions.

    That these–now tiny!–Puritan remnants (Unitarians, United Church of Christ) and similar abolitionist types (Quakers) are fully woke, no doubt. That they are creators and big propagandists of the minoritarian ideology that is now dominant in America and has been pushed out to the Anglo-sphere and the broader West … is just ridiculous.

    Yeah, we have minoritarianism because of all the Puritans in Hollyweird, in the NYT and national media, and dominating political ideology in our universities.

  183. @Anon
    @Steve Sailer


    Stalin turned anti-Semitic around 1948 because visiting Golda Meir seemed more popular with Soviet Jews than he did.
     
    Has anyone written on whether the Zionist movement influenced Hitler’s perspective on Jews?

    Replies: @Muggles

    Has anyone written on whether the Zionist movement influenced Hitler’s perspective on Jews?

    The answer is “yes” but I haven’t read about it in detail.

    What I recall about that is that during the middle 30s there were Zionist leaders of various types (some Polish I think, others perhaps already resident in British controlled Palestine) who visited Germany (after arrangements) and talked to some Nazi officials about this idea.

    Not sure of the details. However at the time the Brits were very unhappy with the idea of Zionism to “Israel” and considered the few who advocated it terrorists or at least disrupters. They wanted the status quo because the Arabs were already unhappy about the Picot-Sykes treaty (between the UK and France) to carve up controlled satellites in the former Ottoman Empire, post WWI (Turks were on the German side, lost).

    So the Brits didn’t want to upset the local Arabs, who feared a Jewish influx of foreigners.

    Since in the mid-30s to the start of WWII Hitler was wooing the British and decided Zionism would just aggravate them. Not helpful for his proposed German-British anti Russian “alliance” idea.

    So these discussions didn’t lead anywhere though some Nazi leaders thought it might solve “the Jewish problem” in Europe. So, Zionism “maybe later.”

  184. @duncsbaby
    @Reg Cæsar

    Holy Cow, does this mean the British drinking classes were tits-out in the early 1800's? Interesting.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Holy Cow, does this mean the British drinking classes were tits-out in the early 1800’s?

    Only among the proto-Australians!

  185. @Ragno

    David Batson, an adjunct professor
     
    And you know what 'adjunct' means - no tenure, and now he'll never get within a mile of it. (As compared to thousands of black 'academics' handed tenure for their joke 'disciplines' like they were racial-appeasement door prizes. Which they are.) Can you imagine how white-knuckle furious he is at dumbass Sellers for dragging him under with her? Or at himself for not simply hitting the STOP button the minute the class had ended?

    Though technically, tenured or not, he still enjoys special protections that no other kind of salaried employee does. It turns out Georgetown has "directly violated the policies and standards of the AAUP by dismissing a professor mid-semester without any hearing or due process." Of course, people have a tendency to forget their rights when they huddled in a corner, shivering and covering their face defensively with both arms.

    I can't help but feel for the poor bastard Batson. Now he know what a white man feels like in Dying America every day. Though it's getting harder and harder to put up with the overdramatic acting-out of black aggressors playing the victim during what any credible historian will correctly note is a Negro Belle Epoque - the greatest golden age in their history, minus invented wonderlands like "Wakanda", and bogus kinship with Persians and Egyptians.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Though technically, tenured or not, he still enjoys special protections that no other kind of salaried employee does.

    SCOTUS ruled that private universities’ faculty cannot unionize because they are management, but public universities’ can, because they are labor. That may be the only significant difference between the two anymore.

  186. @Jim Don Bob
    @Alden


    American middle and upper class life is essentially debt slavery.
     
    I heard a guy on the radio who sells cell phone insurance say that business is great because something like half the people in this country can't come up with $400 cash in an emergency.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I heard a guy on the radio who sells cell phone insurance say that business is great because something like half the people in this country can’t come up with $400 cash in an emergency.

    Suze Orman: Don’t Spend or Invest Your Stimulus — Do This Instead

  187. @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    That's why there's no sex in any books by the very WASPy John Updike.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Colin Wright, @Jim Christian

    ‘That’s why there’s no sex in any books by the very WASPy John Updike.’

    It is a matter of frequency and degree. I think that if one looks directly at it, it’s pretty hard to deny.

    Maybe it’s not bad. But it is there.

  188. @anonymous
    I don't know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is . That name gives me a shamefully xenophobic pause for reflection. At least I can take comfort in assuming his or her parents have a higher IQ than mine and entered this country legally.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Grahamsno(G64), @Reg Cæsar

    By Janhvi Bhojwani and Nicole Acevedo

    I don’t know what a Janhvi Bhojwani is . That name gives me a shamefully xenophobic pause for reflection.

    Then you’re halfway there, livin’ on a prayer…

  189. @Colin Wright
    @Clyde

    '...Ira Nadel, author of Philip Roth: A Counterlife, wrote that Roth was ‘as sexually obsessed in real life as he was in literature’
    Blake Bailey, for his authorized Philip Roth: The Biography, received independence and complete access from the author himself
    In his book, Bailey claims Roth visited London brothels and chose female students to attend a seminar based on their attractiveness
    In a visit to London, Roth allegedly went looking for Chinese prostitutes and allegedly said: ‘God, I’m fond of adultery’'


    This obsession with sex is noticeably commonplace among Jews. Roth, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Weinstein, Dershowitz, Epstein, Isaac Bashevis Singer...Isaac Merritt Singer too.

    Thinking about it, it seems to apply to several of the Jews I've known as well. I mean, of course it's important to all of us, but...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar

    This obsession with sex is noticeably commonplace among Jews… Isaac Bashevis Singer…Isaac Merritt Singer too.

    Howe?

    And sew what? I don’t follow your thread, even if it leaves the others in stitches.

    Has there been a serge in such activity of late? Don’t embroider the truth. That would be unseamly.

    A-hem… I’ll quilt while I’m ahead…

    • LOL: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Reg Cæsar

    Isaac Singer (of the sewing machines) really had a remarkable sexual career.

    Largely, he seems to have seen his fortune as a way of acquiring a succession of (presumably beautiful) women.

    There's really a certain logic to it. I'm not sure I object.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  190. @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright


    This obsession with sex is noticeably commonplace among Jews... Isaac Bashevis Singer…Isaac Merritt Singer too.
     
    Howe?

    And sew what? I don't follow your thread, even if it leaves the others in stitches.

    Has there been a serge in such activity of late? Don't embroider the truth. That would be unseamly.

    A-hem... I'll quilt while I'm ahead...

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    Isaac Singer (of the sewing machines) really had a remarkable sexual career.

    Largely, he seems to have seen his fortune as a way of acquiring a succession of (presumably beautiful) women.

    There’s really a certain logic to it. I’m not sure I object.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Colin Wright


    Isaac Singer (of the sewing machines) really had a remarkable sexual career.
     
    Check out his wikipedia page; a most busy man!

    Isaac, meanwhile, had renewed acquaintance with Isabella Eugenie Boyer, a nineteen year old Frenchwoman, said to be the model for the Statue of Liberty, whom he had lived with in Paris when he was staying there in 1860.[3] She left her husband and married Isaac, who was by now fifty, under the name of Isabella Eugenie Sommerville on June 13, 1863, while she was pregnant.[3] Together, they had six children:[3]

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Isabella_Eugenie_Boyer.jpeg/478px-Isabella_Eugenie_Boyer.jpeg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Singer
     
  191. @duncsbaby
    @Kaz


    Yeah no one in a 50+ age group crowd is going to go around excommunicating old pals because they didn’t nimbly praise blacks enough..
     
    I can think of probably 4 or 5 people in my 50+ cohort who would cut me off completely if I let them know my real opinion of black people. My very own big sis is a suburban liberal who is completely clueless about the different abilities of blacks despite almost daily confirmation of it in her own life. Her prog beliefs and her belief in the religious rightness of her prog beliefs win out over cold, dark reality every time.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    I have several 60+ older family members like this as well, including my own mother who has called me a racist for bringing up black on white crime, or saying they underperform at school, and many (not all) of the ones I have dealt with personally over 20+ years of work have to be constantly watched and ridden to keep on task, not steal, show up on time, not get into fights with coworkers who point out a mistake or criticize the end quality of their work, etc. The funniest part to me is that none of my woke family members live anywhere near blacks and have almost zero interactions with them other than when they go to the grocery store or some other fairly professional setting.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Sick 'n Tired

    i don't honestly remember exactly what i used to think before i knew about the IQ, its distribution, and HBD. Was definitely aware that some people were smarter than others. In school for example there were kids who clearly worked hard and studied, but had only modest scores and there were some who studied considerably less and got higher scores.

    Another example is kids: presumably parents know that some of their kids are swifter than others and it's not because they were raised differently... and that one of them maybe could grow up to be a doctor if he tried, but the other one, well... probably not.

    So even before knowing about the g-factor, that IQ rank is relatively stable through life, etc. etc. i had a felt experience that some individuals i interacted with were considerably smarter than others in some intrinsic way. (for me it was always about how quickly they "got" (understood) something ( and later about whether they got it at all)).

    But i'm not entirely sure that this is a known / felt thing generally, especially among non-nerds.


    Do you think your family generally feels either of these or no? If so then why would the school performance difference be SO hard to imagine?

    avg IQ whites or avg IQ asians wouldn't do well in Georgetown Law either; everyone presumably KNOWS that. We just don't see it that much because they didn't even get in.

    Replies: @Anon

  192. @Sick 'n Tired
    @duncsbaby

    I have several 60+ older family members like this as well, including my own mother who has called me a racist for bringing up black on white crime, or saying they underperform at school, and many (not all) of the ones I have dealt with personally over 20+ years of work have to be constantly watched and ridden to keep on task, not steal, show up on time, not get into fights with coworkers who point out a mistake or criticize the end quality of their work, etc. The funniest part to me is that none of my woke family members live anywhere near blacks and have almost zero interactions with them other than when they go to the grocery store or some other fairly professional setting.

    Replies: @vhrm

    i don’t honestly remember exactly what i used to think before i knew about the IQ, its distribution, and HBD. Was definitely aware that some people were smarter than others. In school for example there were kids who clearly worked hard and studied, but had only modest scores and there were some who studied considerably less and got higher scores.

    Another example is kids: presumably parents know that some of their kids are swifter than others and it’s not because they were raised differently… and that one of them maybe could grow up to be a doctor if he tried, but the other one, well… probably not.

    So even before knowing about the g-factor, that IQ rank is relatively stable through life, etc. etc. i had a felt experience that some individuals i interacted with were considerably smarter than others in some intrinsic way. (for me it was always about how quickly they “got” (understood) something ( and later about whether they got it at all)).

    But i’m not entirely sure that this is a known / felt thing generally, especially among non-nerds.

    Do you think your family generally feels either of these or no? If so then why would the school performance difference be SO hard to imagine?

    avg IQ whites or avg IQ asians wouldn’t do well in Georgetown Law either; everyone presumably KNOWS that. We just don’t see it that much because they didn’t even get in.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @vhrm


    Another example is kids: presumably parents know that some of their kids are swifter than others and it’s not because they were raised differently… and that one of them maybe could grow up to be a doctor if he tried, but the other one, well… probably not.
     
    Do you seeing being a doctor as the pinnacle of careers?
  193. @Colin Wright
    @Reg Cæsar

    Isaac Singer (of the sewing machines) really had a remarkable sexual career.

    Largely, he seems to have seen his fortune as a way of acquiring a succession of (presumably beautiful) women.

    There's really a certain logic to it. I'm not sure I object.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Isaac Singer (of the sewing machines) really had a remarkable sexual career.

    Check out his wikipedia page; a most busy man!

    Isaac, meanwhile, had renewed acquaintance with Isabella Eugenie Boyer, a nineteen year old Frenchwoman, said to be the model for the Statue of Liberty, whom he had lived with in Paris when he was staying there in 1860.[3] She left her husband and married Isaac, who was by now fifty, under the name of Isabella Eugenie Sommerville on June 13, 1863, while she was pregnant.[3] Together, they had six children:[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Singer

  194. Anon[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @vhrm
    @Sick 'n Tired

    i don't honestly remember exactly what i used to think before i knew about the IQ, its distribution, and HBD. Was definitely aware that some people were smarter than others. In school for example there were kids who clearly worked hard and studied, but had only modest scores and there were some who studied considerably less and got higher scores.

    Another example is kids: presumably parents know that some of their kids are swifter than others and it's not because they were raised differently... and that one of them maybe could grow up to be a doctor if he tried, but the other one, well... probably not.

    So even before knowing about the g-factor, that IQ rank is relatively stable through life, etc. etc. i had a felt experience that some individuals i interacted with were considerably smarter than others in some intrinsic way. (for me it was always about how quickly they "got" (understood) something ( and later about whether they got it at all)).

    But i'm not entirely sure that this is a known / felt thing generally, especially among non-nerds.


    Do you think your family generally feels either of these or no? If so then why would the school performance difference be SO hard to imagine?

    avg IQ whites or avg IQ asians wouldn't do well in Georgetown Law either; everyone presumably KNOWS that. We just don't see it that much because they didn't even get in.

    Replies: @Anon

    Another example is kids: presumably parents know that some of their kids are swifter than others and it’s not because they were raised differently… and that one of them maybe could grow up to be a doctor if he tried, but the other one, well… probably not.

    Do you seeing being a doctor as the pinnacle of careers?

  195. @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    That's why there's no sex in any books by the very WASPy John Updike.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Colin Wright, @Jim Christian

    Steve, Mario Puzo who wrote The Godfather spent probably 40 pages out of 750 detailing Big Dick Sonny Corleone’s adventures with Lucy Mancini, his mistress. He spent several more telling of her later sexual adventures with a gynecologist in Vegas who lined her up for (post-Sonny Corleone) vaginal-tightening surgery. A riot and a lot not permissible today. Not depraved, but detailed for sure. Puzo is/was Goyim, Steve, no? I’ve heard that Hollywood and the mobsters really weren’t happy about a lot of the content in Godfather, but you probably heard more than we ever did. I know the guy who played Johnny Fontaine in the movie found scant prospects after, especially in the studio and movies. Frank Sinatra did that I guess. But there were lots of things, no? Spill. We know you got da goods.

  196. @Kylie
    @Mr. Anon

    "I wonder if you wonder.*

    *Name that movie!

    The Lion in Winter?"

    No but close in a weird kind of way.

    Double indemnity.

    https://youtu.be/ZKdcYnlkhx8

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Good movie. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen it.

  197. @Tono Bungay
    @AndrewR

    What evidence do you have that these apologies "don't help you at all"? Perhaps his parting compensation is conditional on the apology. Perhaps his likelihood of ever getting rehired elsewhere is increased by his apology. Yes, it is revolting and nauseating, but it may unfortunately not be pointless.

    Replies: @Alden, @AShartIsBorn, @Nicholas Stix

    Adjuncts get nothing.

    Whites who apologize for non-existent offenses get nothing.

    It is as pointless as it was for innocents to “confessed” at their Soviet show trials.

  198. It’s not PC, nor Woke, nor college acceptable, to be honest and truthful.

    “Systemic Racism” is actually real, and it’s old-fashioned name is “Affirmative Action”.
    Making sure most of the least qualified students at top schools are black.

    So the whites can feel morally superior (“we are helping!”) and intellectually superior ( ” ” … can’t be talked about out loud, but Everybody Knows).

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