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  1. Another one of those claims of returning to normalcy touted by the individual LARPing as the President.

    As bad as it sounds, at least this helps push the needle further to the eventual collapse.

    General M&M needs to get on the phone and talk to his BFF in China. They have plenty of space and jobs, right?

    • Agree: Patrick in SC
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @ArthurinCali

    It's really Close Encounters of the Admin Kind right now.

    Florida & Texas fume as Biden seizes and RATIONS supply of life-saving Covid treatments

    Forced relocations soon.

    , @Prester John
    @ArthurinCali

    The question for the house is as follows: Will these pilgrims be welcomed by the good folks in West Hollywood, Santa Barbara, Greenwich (CT) and Brookline (MA)?

  2. Millions of educated, hardworking Haitians and Central Americans flooding into the country, and yet the labor shortage has yet to be solved.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wilkey

    'Millions of educated, hardworking Haitians and Central Americans flooding into the country, and yet the labor shortage has yet to be solved.'

    ? That's why the 'labor shortage' was engineered -- to encourage them to flood in.

    This isn't a bug -- it's a feature.

    Replies: @El Dato

  3. Isn’t there a single satellite camera on our side?

    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Does this Eric Ball know what a legend is, or did it get cut off, Reg? I clicked on the image, but that is I suppose a cropped screen shot of his tweet. I gotta assume the orange on the left is NO on the recall, and the redder colors are what, cases, non-vaccinated people, I don't know?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @International Jew

    , @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar


    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:
     
    Are the maps inaccurate?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @NOTA

    , @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Why do people keep pretending there isn't an anti-White agenda?

    This is too specific; letting in hordes of non-Whites to be part of our polity while banning anyone from even covering it. This is combined with government programs of forced integration targeting White communities and spaces.

    I think UN Resolution 260 has something to say about this.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

  4. Holy crap, things are just accelerating in the direction of worse, for about every political issue I can think of. I wanted to have more time to make more plans. Now, you know what that graph a few days ago was about, although the Global Climate Disruption™ excuse was mighty stupid. Perhaps people just wanted to answer the question as to whether the world is ending in the affirmative, that silliness aside.

    As far as the TFR for the drones (usually for manned aircraft too), I looked and this is indeed suspicious. Many TFRs are set up for locations, such as where there are fire-fighting operations going on, in which more aircraft flying through would be a serious safety hazard. This one says “SECURITY” though. It goes up to 1,000 ft agl, and is only for unmanned aircraft. That means the Fox News guys ought to be able to get someone to fly them around in a high-wing Cessna over 1,000 ft and do whatever they want … right up to the Mexican border, that is.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Good thinking, except that the "security" restrictions can (and will) be expanded just as fast.

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Better yet, go to Mexico and fly right up to the US border.

    , @mc23
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Fox should just fly their drone into Mexican airspace. They can always ask for Asylum.

  5. @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't there a single satellite camera on our side?


    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:


    https://abuwjaawap.cloudimg.io/v7/_lgbtqnation-assets_/assets/2021/09/eric-ball-maps-california-recall-covid.jpg?&auto=format&auto=compress&crop=faces&fit=crop&gravity=face&w=790&h=530

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @RichardTaylor

    Does this Eric Ball know what a legend is, or did it get cut off, Reg? I clicked on the image, but that is I suppose a cropped screen shot of his tweet. I gotta assume the orange on the left is NO on the recall, and the redder colors are what, cases, non-vaccinated people, I don’t know?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Does this Eric Ball know what a legend is...?
     
    Apparently Gavin Newsom!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @International Jew
    @Achmed E. Newman

    He assumed (as Californians will) you knew that the coast always supports the Democrat. The inland counties will join them as soon as a few more cohorts of US-born Mexicans reach voting age. Drive around Fresno or Kings (Bakersfield) county and you'll rarely see any white people.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @OFWHAP

  6. @Wilkey
    Millions of educated, hardworking Haitians and Central Americans flooding into the country, and yet the labor shortage has yet to be solved.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Millions of educated, hardworking Haitians and Central Americans flooding into the country, and yet the labor shortage has yet to be solved.’

    ? That’s why the ‘labor shortage’ was engineered — to encourage them to flood in.

    This isn’t a bug — it’s a feature.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Colin Wright

    Timber prices are going to come down any moment now.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  7. This is going to be good. Haitians make such wonderful workers and honest citizens. Diversity is Our Strength, especially when it’s Haitians.

    Explanation: I caught the one Haitian employee I ever had, years ago, taking supplies out of the office and putting them in the trunk of his car.

    Years later, I ran into him at a large, public event. He had become a minister and was running a Haitian church.

    • Replies: @Currahee
    @Buzz Mohawk

    LOL! Yeah, that's one thing they can do very well indeed.

    , @Truth
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Well it was nice that you donated his whiteboard.

  8. Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That’s over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn’t exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that’s of value. It’s hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti’s GDP is less than \$2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It’s not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don’t keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @Wilkey

    Haitians are poor because they have absolutely ZERO common sense, are uneducated, and extremely superstitious. I have worked with many Haitians in S. Florida and in the Caribbean. They will pick all the unripe mangos off of a tree instead of taking only the ones that are ripe, then wonder why the there's no fruit. They will eat fish the size of minnows instead of throwing them back and letting them grow and reproduce, then wonder why there's no fish to catch. They cut down all the trees on the hillsides to make charcoal, then die in mudslides when it rains. If you're ever driving in the left lane (the fast lane) in Miami and there's a car doing 45mph, it's driven by a Haitian woman. They know how to have children they can't afford and commit insurance scams, I'll give them that.

    Replies: @Anon, @mc23

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Wilkey

    At the time of the slave revolt, Haiti per acre was the richest agricultural land in the world. Of course, not any more!
    BTW, the loss of Haiti was one factor (major) contributing to The Louisiana Purchase.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Che Blutarsky

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Wilkey

    The Dominicans look down on Haitians. ''Nuff said.

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    @Wilkey

    "Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years."

    Check out The Bell Curve, Charles Murray, for the answer to your question.

    , @notsaying
    @Wilkey

    Here is something I will never forget. There was a newspaper article about people from an area church who went down to Haiti to help at an orphanage. One of them described how the new children will turn away from others at mealtime and protect their food. It is a big deal to get the children to sit normally at the dinner table and to stop guarding their food.

    Here is an interesting tidbit from Wikipedia light of the current immigration surge. I wonder how many of the Haitian women in Texas are pregnant?

    "While limited, evidence suggests that natural and man-made disasters can cause human populations to increase in the long term, rather than decrease. The Khmer Rouge conflict and 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami were followed by documented fertility spikes; potential causes may include reduced access to contraception and families desiring more children following child death. In Haiti's case, the fertility rate nearly tripled after the 2010 Haiti earthquake and is likely to remain above pre-quake levels for many years."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Haiti

    Replies: @bomag, @bingobongo, @Swamp Fox

    , @Seneca44
    @Wilkey

    When we needed to hire a diaper changer for my 90+ year old Mother in Law in Ft. Lauderdale, the Haitians were a ready source of that kind of labor. Indeed, the couple that I met could do little else as they were functionally illiterate and could only travel on the bus in rote fashion after someone showed them where to go. They couldn't possibly figure out a bus schedule or anything else. I was always amazed that they generally spoke some passable English.

    , @Rob
    @Wilkey

    People always talk about how poor Haiti is, but it’s pretty high income for an African country.

    I said that at the Amptoons blog, and got the response, “why should we compare it to to African countries?”

    Me: find a picture of Haitians. Look at it, then think very, very hard.

    Haiti will be the first country to have a complete and total meltdown. Maybe it happened in near prehistoric states in the middle east way back when. But the Haitians have been stripping the forests for charcoal, and they are almost out of Forrest. Planting trees is white supremacy, so what can they do? Ever since gay for pay sex tourism became difficult due to the HIV situation, Haiti has struggled mightily to get a new source of hard currency.

    I knew a girl whose boyfriend was Haitian. He was part of the elite. I met him, and was like, “you're whit? How did that happen?” Turns out there are white Haitians, descended from whites who were of some use, and were not slaughtered. For mysterious reasons, they are at the economic top of Haiti, though they do not exercise direct political power.

    I would be scared to be a white Haitian, but taxes are low, servants are cheap, the climate is pleasant, snd they are rich, so they can afford ipads and satellite tv. They are around 2% of the population, and have about 1/2 the countries income, so roughly $2000*.5 = 1000/0.02 = 1000*50 = 59k/year pc income, but everything except imports is cheap. Climate’s nice, too.

    You gotta feel sorry for capitalists and landlords in the third world, having to exploit such low-quality human cattle, when capitalists in the first world live off such healthy herds. Life ain't fair, yo.

    Chances are, if an eat the rich sentiment spread through Haiti, they’d be able to fly to America on private planes, and from America to France or perhaps to become the elite of some other third world nation, like ours.

    Expect a years-long media campaign about how we’re at fault for Haiti’s situation. We did occupy Haiti for a stretch, so that’s probably why they’re messed up, right? I mean, it could not have anything to do with the people.

    I honestly do kinda blame christo-cons, though. The third world needs birth control for the masses. The elite has it. If Haiti had 1000 Dutch people/square mile, it would be wealthy, but it has Haitians so it’s over-populated. Birth control could at least prevent a die-back or worse, emigration to America.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Wilkey, @Gabe Ruth

    , @Jack D
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years.
     
    There's a Woke explanation for this. After the loss of Haiti, the French government forced the Haitian government to pay the former white landowners of Haiti compensation for the property that had been taken from them starting in 1825. These payments (so the story goes) caused Haiti to be impoverished. If they hadn't been made, Haiti would be Wakanda by now.

    So you see it IS the white people's fault. It's ALWAYS the white people's fault (see redlining). If you haven't found a way to blame white people for black dysfunction, it just means that you haven't dug down deep enough for the real root causes, so keep digging.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Corvinus, @Gabe Ruth, @Jonathan Mason

    , @peterike
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor.

     

    Is it really? The fact is that Haiti is like Ukraine: a tiny group of people control all the wealth. In Ukraine they are nearly all Jews. In Haiti, only some of them are, like Gilbert Bigio, the wealthiest man in Haiti. So while Haitians are pretty useless overall, their nation is basically being sucked dry of whatever wealth it has by a small group of massive exploiters.

    Replies: @BB, @John Johnson, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Henry's Cat
    @Wilkey

    Leftists say that Haiti stayed poor because France enacted vengeful reparations:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti_indemnity_controversy

    Although that must have played a part - although it's unclear how great a burden it was in terms of GDP - I assume the technoogical revolution in farming mostly passed them by.

    , @ABCDE
    @Wilkey

    Haiti’s fertility rate has been falling for decades. While still high (2.8) it is less than half of what it was in 1985 and the rate drops yearly. In 20 years or so, they will be only at replacement level. Half of their birth control is by injection which is a very reliable method.It would seem our best strategy would be to work on small things - soil improvement, tree planting and keep the aid for birth control as high as can be absorbed. If we can help them to even a slightly more productive agriculture and faster to a fertility rate of 2, something that actually seems extremely possible looking at trends, I see no reason for a collapse. Just Keep the Clintons and their friends and the Catholic Church out of it.

  9. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Does this Eric Ball know what a legend is, or did it get cut off, Reg? I clicked on the image, but that is I suppose a cropped screen shot of his tweet. I gotta assume the orange on the left is NO on the recall, and the redder colors are what, cases, non-vaccinated people, I don't know?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @International Jew

    Does this Eric Ball know what a legend is…?

    Apparently Gavin Newsom!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Good one!

  10. Didn’t Kamala get this border stuff all fixed?

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Known Fact

    She has to go back to conduct a more detailed assessment.

    As a footnote, the more I see Biden the more I begin to fear that my initial prediction that he wouldn't get much past this coming January may well become true, which means that Guess Who ascends into the Oval Office as Biden is being simultaneously transported to some private psych facility for evaluation. Happy Trails!

  11. Selective prosecution by the media/government.

    If you don’t see it, its not a problem.

  12. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Does this Eric Ball know what a legend is...?
     
    Apparently Gavin Newsom!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Good one!

  13. @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't there a single satellite camera on our side?


    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:


    https://abuwjaawap.cloudimg.io/v7/_lgbtqnation-assets_/assets/2021/09/eric-ball-maps-california-recall-covid.jpg?&auto=format&auto=compress&crop=faces&fit=crop&gravity=face&w=790&h=530

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @RichardTaylor

    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:

    Are the maps inaccurate?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    Are the maps inaccurate?
     
    The counties are in the right place. What the data mean is anyone's guess.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Anonymous
    @Anon

    It all rides on what they deem a "hospitalization" for cases -- what you or I might think of as a non-hospitalization, e.g. getting a dram of Coof Tussin after waiting 30 min in the ER, they might score otherwise.

    If the map is for a vaxx threshold that's practically useless too, because the ruddier ones are all less urban (except for Kern). When you don't live within a mile of anybody else or have appointments outside of driving tractors from one ditch to another, is obeisance to Pfizer and Moderna really in the Top 100 list of things to get right onto?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @NOTA
    @Anon

    If only there were some pithy catchphrase about the relationship between correlation and causation....

  14. No drones, huh? If thousands of penniless refugees can somehow find their way to this site, is it possible that Fox could somehow, oh, I don’t know, maybe get a reporter and cameraman there too?

  15. Anon[932] • Disclaimer says:

    I think a good tactic for conservatives would be the passages of a law similar to the Freedom of Information Act, but related to data, a sort of Right to Data Act, that would not only give the public the right to data from the government, but would require the government to keep data and operate in a way that produces data, and in which the data can be released quickly.

    This would of course be subject to a bunch of exceptions, like the FOIA, but the FOIA works pretty well, and a new law would be a basis for litigation.

    I’m thinking of how the FBI and Department of Justice crime statistics are so useful and can be used to shut down conversations. The new law would make it mandatory to collect and release such statistics, and extend it to immigration and the like. It would not allow the non-collection or obfuscation of data without a good reason. Perhaps it would allow private financial contributions if budget is given as a legitimate reason to not provide data. If race data is not collected because it’s too sensitive, that would have to be explained in detail in court and be subject to appeals. Maybe government contractors could be brought under the umbrella, and the College Board and ETS could be required to release more data about test results and test takers.

    The law extended to states (as happened with the FOIA) would bring back mugshots. We’d get immigration status in police reports.

    • Agree: Cato
  16. Just fly the drone in mexican airspace.

    • Replies: @Cato
    @Anon

    " Just fly the drone in Mexican airspace. "

    Could well be that AMLO would approve -- he has been full of surprises, almost all pleasant surprises.

  17. As I asked yesterday, how are they getting from Haiti to Texas?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-boston-adopt-the-australian-solution-to-white-supremacy/#comment-4906411

    Isn’t Florida a lot more convenient?

    That’s the how. Won’t mention the why.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Polistra

    Florida has a lot of experience with Haitians, and takes steps to guard against such things.

    Not sure about the pipeline to Texas, but with Haiti there is a lot of NGO money floating around, and I suspect the Haitians figure the best use of the money is to fund a human pipeline across our undefended border.

    , @Henry's Cat
    @Polistra

    I read that most of these Haitians are already living in South America, many since the earthquake in 2011.

  18. @Achmed E. Newman
    Holy crap, things are just accelerating in the direction of worse, for about every political issue I can think of. I wanted to have more time to make more plans. Now, you know what that graph a few days ago was about, although the Global Climate Disruption™ excuse was mighty stupid. Perhaps people just wanted to answer the question as to whether the world is ending in the affirmative, that silliness aside.

    As far as the TFR for the drones (usually for manned aircraft too), I looked and this is indeed suspicious. Many TFRs are set up for locations, such as where there are fire-fighting operations going on, in which more aircraft flying through would be a serious safety hazard. This one says "SECURITY" though. It goes up to 1,000 ft agl, and is only for unmanned aircraft. That means the Fox News guys ought to be able to get someone to fly them around in a high-wing Cessna over 1,000 ft and do whatever they want ... right up to the Mexican border, that is.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @mc23

    Good thinking, except that the “security” restrictions can (and will) be expanded just as fast.

  19. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    Haitians are poor because they have absolutely ZERO common sense, are uneducated, and extremely superstitious. I have worked with many Haitians in S. Florida and in the Caribbean. They will pick all the unripe mangos off of a tree instead of taking only the ones that are ripe, then wonder why the there’s no fruit. They will eat fish the size of minnows instead of throwing them back and letting them grow and reproduce, then wonder why there’s no fish to catch. They cut down all the trees on the hillsides to make charcoal, then die in mudslides when it rains. If you’re ever driving in the left lane (the fast lane) in Miami and there’s a car doing 45mph, it’s driven by a Haitian woman. They know how to have children they can’t afford and commit insurance scams, I’ll give them that.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Sick 'n Tired

    Scott Alexander had a post about his experiences in Haiti: https://web.archive.org/web/20150407223525/http://squid314.livejournal.com/297579.html


    But I was going to talk about the patients. I don't really blame the patients. I think they're reacting as best they can to the perceived inadequacies around nurses and doctors. But they seem to have this insane mindset, exactly the opposite of that prevailing in parts of the States, where medicine is good. In particular, getting more medicine of any type is always a good thing and will make them healthier, and doctors are these strange heartless people who will prevent them from taking a stomach medication just because maybe they don't have a stomach problem at this exact moment. As a result, they lie like heck. I didn't realize exactly how much they were lying until I heard the story, now a legend at our clinic, of the man who came in complaining of vaginal discharge. He had heard some woman come in complaining of vaginal discharge and get lots of medication for it, so he figured he should try his luck with the same. And this wasn't an isolated incident, either. Complaints will go in "fads", so that if a guy comes in complaining of ear pain and gets lots of medicine, on his way out he'll mention it to the other patients in line and they'll all mention ear pain too - or so the translators and veteran staff have told me.
     

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    , @mc23
    @Sick 'n Tired

    And of course the Haitians will vote Democratic-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWphzZ4b-4A

  20. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    At the time of the slave revolt, Haiti per acre was the richest agricultural land in the world. Of course, not any more!
    BTW, the loss of Haiti was one factor (major) contributing to The Louisiana Purchase.

    • Replies: @Currahee
    @Dan Hayes

    Napoleon also had a kinda war thing going on that needed finance. Remember?

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    , @Che Blutarsky
    @Dan Hayes

    The mysterious deaths of all of the white people on that side of Hispaniola was also a contributing factor to the paranoia of the antebellum South.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia

  21. This year migrant crisis. Next year, housing crisis.

    We don’t have millions of spare housing units lying around.

    In fact there’s a shortage.

    Where are we going to house the vibrants?

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Trelane

    Alma, MI city council just voted to use abandoned nursing home to house migrant kids aged 12-18. Last Spring, Albion, MI accepts migrant kids at the not full capacity Starr Commonwealth residential school.

    Clemens meat packing plant in Coldwater, MI now employing dozens of Haitian workers and housing them in recently built section 8 apartments near Home Depot and Wal-Mart.

    Just a snapshot.

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Reg Cæsar

    , @notsaying
    @Trelane

    Where are we going to house ourselves, too? For years the assumption was that housing is no problem. It will magically appear or that people can go from the bigger cities out where housing is cheap.

    After decades of huge intake of lower income immigrants, however, between gentrification and almost no new housing being built for people who cannot afford market rate rents, that long era has come to an end. Rents and housing prices have gone up like crazy.

    I saw last week that the country is down 5 million single family houses for what it needs and the people we are talking about do not live in SFH, they live in apartments and townhouses. Rent refugees are all over America now, pushing up rents for people in smaller places where employers will not pay more so they can afford jacked up rents. This is happening where I am. We have been getting blacks from big cities for years. The day the Hispanics surge in, we are done. I am very worried personally about my ability to pay higher rents now and in the future.

    I have talked about the unprecedented housing crisis coming for over a year and it is clearly here now. Just starting, but here. Covid eviction moratoriums that led to nonpayment of rents to small landlords who are selling out to real estate investors have accelerated and worsened negative trends that existed before the pandemic.

    Replies: @Rob

    , @Alden
    @Trelane

    The migrant scum will be housed in section 8 the projects, welfare motels and other government housing. They will get low income winter heating bills while Americans with decent middle class incomes have the thermostat turned to 55.

    There will be more and more American homeless. That’s all.

  22. Can it get more insane? What, exactly, are they planning to do with these people?

  23. The leftists certainly have the will to power. “By any means necessary.” The Republicans are so weak in comparison.

  24. @Buzz Mohawk
    This is going to be good. Haitians make such wonderful workers and honest citizens. Diversity is Our Strength, especially when it's Haitians.

    Explanation: I caught the one Haitian employee I ever had, years ago, taking supplies out of the office and putting them in the trunk of his car.

    Years later, I ran into him at a large, public event. He had become a minister and was running a Haitian church.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Truth

    LOL! Yeah, that’s one thing they can do very well indeed.

  25. No vaccine mandate for illegal aliens.

    Yeah – this whole vaccine thing is about “public health”.

    I have come to the conclusion that the term “public health” should now be understood in the same sense as “bio-ethics” or “racial justice”. The meaning of all these terms is very nearly the exact opposite of the plain meaning of the words.

    The COVID World Order has really ushered in full-blown Orwellian government slogans. Consider this one from the state of Victoria in Australia, behind the Eucalyptus Curtain:

    Why is that Victoria State logo so familiar?

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  26. @Dan Hayes
    @Wilkey

    At the time of the slave revolt, Haiti per acre was the richest agricultural land in the world. Of course, not any more!
    BTW, the loss of Haiti was one factor (major) contributing to The Louisiana Purchase.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Che Blutarsky

    Napoleon also had a kinda war thing going on that needed finance. Remember?

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Currahee

    Pestilence accounted for the ultimate defeat of the French military forces!

  27. @Dan Hayes
    @Wilkey

    At the time of the slave revolt, Haiti per acre was the richest agricultural land in the world. Of course, not any more!
    BTW, the loss of Haiti was one factor (major) contributing to The Louisiana Purchase.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Che Blutarsky

    The mysterious deaths of all of the white people on that side of Hispaniola was also a contributing factor to the paranoia of the antebellum South.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Che Blutarsky


    The mysterious deaths of all of the white people on that side of Hispaniola was also a contributing factor to the paranoia of the antebellum South.
     
    The solution was staring them in the face, but they weren't interested.
    , @S. Anonyia
    @Che Blutarsky

    Yes, also many white Haitian refugees settled across the South and readily shared their stories.

  28. @Anon
    Just fly the drone in mexican airspace.

    Replies: @Cato

    ” Just fly the drone in Mexican airspace. ”

    Could well be that AMLO would approve — he has been full of surprises, almost all pleasant surprises.

  29. @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar


    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:
     
    Are the maps inaccurate?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @NOTA

    Are the maps inaccurate?

    The counties are in the right place. What the data mean is anyone’s guess.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    Might it be due to the anti-vaxxer idiots people like Steve are coddling?

  30. @Che Blutarsky
    @Dan Hayes

    The mysterious deaths of all of the white people on that side of Hispaniola was also a contributing factor to the paranoia of the antebellum South.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia

    The mysterious deaths of all of the white people on that side of Hispaniola was also a contributing factor to the paranoia of the antebellum South.

    The solution was staring them in the face, but they weren’t interested.

  31. @Currahee
    @Dan Hayes

    Napoleon also had a kinda war thing going on that needed finance. Remember?

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Pestilence accounted for the ultimate defeat of the French military forces!

  32. @Trelane
    This year migrant crisis. Next year, housing crisis.

    We don't have millions of spare housing units lying around.

    In fact there's a shortage.

    Where are we going to house the vibrants?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @notsaying, @Alden

    Alma, MI city council just voted to use abandoned nursing home to house migrant kids aged 12-18. Last Spring, Albion, MI accepts migrant kids at the not full capacity Starr Commonwealth residential school.

    Clemens meat packing plant in Coldwater, MI now employing dozens of Haitian workers and housing them in recently built section 8 apartments near Home Depot and Wal-Mart.

    Just a snapshot.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @OFWHAP
    @Ron Mexico

    Housing 18-years-old and 12-years-old kids in the same facility will work great!

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Ron Mexico


    Clemens meat packing plant in Coldwater, MI now employing dozens of Haitian workers and housing them in recently built section 8 apartments near Home Depot and Wal-Mart.
     
    On a recent visit to Barron, Wisc., pop. ca. 3,500 and hours from any big city, I noticed a sign for the Islamic center. What the heck is an Islamic center doing there?

    Then I saw the Jennie-O turkey plant. It all made sense.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  33. Existing Haitian population in the US is larger than one might think. 687,000 according to the 2018 estimate. The Haitians arriving now will simply be placed with Haitians already living here. An irresistible stipend will be paid to the existing Haitian family to plunk a mattress down on the living room floor or buy a sleeper couch or whatever. In sum, this is a 3-step process: 1) military base; 2) plunked stipend mattress; 3) my street.

  34. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    Are the maps inaccurate?
     
    The counties are in the right place. What the data mean is anyone's guess.

    Replies: @Anon

    Might it be due to the anti-vaxxer idiots people like Steve are coddling?

  35. “NYT critic Wesley Morris’s Intersectional Pokemon Points — he’s black _and_ gay! — win him his second Pulitzer Prize for his Beyonce-centric pop culture criticism, which largely consists of him being as stereotypically black and gay as is imaginable.”

    iStweet

    When he gets around to Ebs Burnough, he’ll forget about Beyonçā.

  36. Anon[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sick 'n Tired
    @Wilkey

    Haitians are poor because they have absolutely ZERO common sense, are uneducated, and extremely superstitious. I have worked with many Haitians in S. Florida and in the Caribbean. They will pick all the unripe mangos off of a tree instead of taking only the ones that are ripe, then wonder why the there's no fruit. They will eat fish the size of minnows instead of throwing them back and letting them grow and reproduce, then wonder why there's no fish to catch. They cut down all the trees on the hillsides to make charcoal, then die in mudslides when it rains. If you're ever driving in the left lane (the fast lane) in Miami and there's a car doing 45mph, it's driven by a Haitian woman. They know how to have children they can't afford and commit insurance scams, I'll give them that.

    Replies: @Anon, @mc23

    Scott Alexander had a post about his experiences in Haiti: https://web.archive.org/web/20150407223525/http://squid314.livejournal.com/297579.html

    But I was going to talk about the patients. I don’t really blame the patients. I think they’re reacting as best they can to the perceived inadequacies around nurses and doctors. But they seem to have this insane mindset, exactly the opposite of that prevailing in parts of the States, where medicine is good. In particular, getting more medicine of any type is always a good thing and will make them healthier, and doctors are these strange heartless people who will prevent them from taking a stomach medication just because maybe they don’t have a stomach problem at this exact moment. As a result, they lie like heck. I didn’t realize exactly how much they were lying until I heard the story, now a legend at our clinic, of the man who came in complaining of vaginal discharge. He had heard some woman come in complaining of vaginal discharge and get lots of medication for it, so he figured he should try his luck with the same. And this wasn’t an isolated incident, either. Complaints will go in “fads”, so that if a guy comes in complaining of ear pain and gets lots of medicine, on his way out he’ll mention it to the other patients in line and they’ll all mention ear pain too – or so the translators and veteran staff have told me.

    • LOL: Sick 'n Tired
    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Anon

    “[I]nadequacies around nurses and doctors”? That’s taking the “around” fad to another level. Does this guy ever converse with normal people?

  37. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Does this Eric Ball know what a legend is, or did it get cut off, Reg? I clicked on the image, but that is I suppose a cropped screen shot of his tweet. I gotta assume the orange on the left is NO on the recall, and the redder colors are what, cases, non-vaccinated people, I don't know?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @International Jew

    He assumed (as Californians will) you knew that the coast always supports the Democrat. The inland counties will join them as soon as a few more cohorts of US-born Mexicans reach voting age. Drive around Fresno or Kings (Bakersfield) county and you’ll rarely see any white people.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @International Jew

    That's what I assumed too, but the right hand map is still a mystery as to what it actually represents. I will assume the legend was in the original tweet - otherwise, a map like this without a legend is garbage, just as is an engineering calculation with no units.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @OFWHAP
    @International Jew


    Drive around Fresno or Kings (Bakersfield) county and you’ll rarely see any white people.
     
    For instance I know a Salvadoran who just moved from San Francisco to Fresno.
  38. Anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar


    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:
     
    Are the maps inaccurate?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @NOTA

    It all rides on what they deem a “hospitalization” for cases — what you or I might think of as a non-hospitalization, e.g. getting a dram of Coof Tussin after waiting 30 min in the ER, they might score otherwise.

    If the map is for a vaxx threshold that’s practically useless too, because the ruddier ones are all less urban (except for Kern). When you don’t live within a mile of anybody else or have appointments outside of driving tractors from one ditch to another, is obeisance to Pfizer and Moderna really in the Top 100 list of things to get right onto?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    Remember, the "Spanish flu" got that name because neutral Spain was the only Western country that didn't censor her press. Word got out.

  39. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    The Dominicans look down on Haitians. ”Nuff said.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
    @Hypnotoad666


    The Dominicans look down on Haitians. ”Nuff said.
     
    The border between the two is a low barbed-wire fence. On one side of the fence, it looks like a typical tropical island; palm trees and small brightly colored buildings. The other side of the fence is stripped of trees and covered with trash. I was disgusted when I saw it.
  40. @Reg Cæsar
    Isn't there a single satellite camera on our side?


    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:


    https://abuwjaawap.cloudimg.io/v7/_lgbtqnation-assets_/assets/2021/09/eric-ball-maps-california-recall-covid.jpg?&auto=format&auto=compress&crop=faces&fit=crop&gravity=face&w=790&h=530

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @RichardTaylor

    Why do people keep pretending there isn’t an anti-White agenda?

    This is too specific; letting in hordes of non-Whites to be part of our polity while banning anyone from even covering it. This is combined with government programs of forced integration targeting White communities and spaces.

    I think UN Resolution 260 has something to say about this.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    Why do people keep pretending there isn’t an anti-White agenda?

     

    It's been there from the beginning-- 1619. Even 1614, if you count miscegenation. Some folks pretend that wasn't anti-white.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    , @Corvinus
    @RichardTaylor

    “Why do people keep pretending there isn’t an anti-White agenda?”

    Scientists have the solution.

    https://www.insidescience.org/news/scientists-invent-whitest-white-paint

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  41. @ArthurinCali
    Another one of those claims of returning to normalcy touted by the individual LARPing as the President.

    As bad as it sounds, at least this helps push the needle further to the eventual collapse.

    General M&M needs to get on the phone and talk to his BFF in China. They have plenty of space and jobs, right?

    Replies: @El Dato, @Prester John

    It’s really Close Encounters of the Admin Kind right now.

    Florida & Texas fume as Biden seizes and RATIONS supply of life-saving Covid treatments

    Forced relocations soon.

  42. @Colin Wright
    @Wilkey

    'Millions of educated, hardworking Haitians and Central Americans flooding into the country, and yet the labor shortage has yet to be solved.'

    ? That's why the 'labor shortage' was engineered -- to encourage them to flood in.

    This isn't a bug -- it's a feature.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Timber prices are going to come down any moment now.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato


    Timber prices are going to come down any moment now.

     

    As is timber itself.


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd1LFdsVwAAJ1_O.jpg:large
  43. A ‘border security’ issue counts as oxymoron of the day, doesn’t it?

  44. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    “Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years.”

    Check out The Bell Curve, Charles Murray, for the answer to your question.

  45. Don’t worry. They will all be vaccinated at the border and be given “vaccine passports” so that they can contribute to our economy.

    In the immortal words of General Casey, “it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here.”

  46. I hate to say this, but from my experience in France I think Haitians are far from the worst people we could be letting in. I voted for Trump, in large part because he was at least somewhat anti-immigration (in line with Ann Coulter), and I’d vote for a 20-year moratorium, but my rough estimate of problematic-ness puts Haitians way below Somalis, Afghans and Pakistanis, for instance.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Tono Bungay

    Ron, we need a 'Cope' button.

    , @Menschmaschine
    @Tono Bungay

    This is because usually you need at least some intelligence to find a way to make it over the Atlantic, so the Haitians you find in France are somewhat selected. The same principle of course is valid in reverse - Muslims in the USA tend to be higher class than those in Europe.

  47. Let’s check on the fiat money outlet.

    You’ll Be Shocked the Learn There’s Corruption at the Fed

    … Dallas Fed President Robert Kaplan made numerous trades worth \$1 million or more last year. Meanwhile, Boston Fed President Eric Rosengren last year was making large trades in real estate investment trusts, possibly in the six-figures range.

    The problem here is obvious to any normal person who watches the Fed.

    The Fed is not just an instrument of monetary policy, but a regulator of financial institutions. The Fed regulates bank holding companies, foreign banks working in the US, hundreds of state members banks, and other institutions as well. This gives Fed policymakers an enormous amount of control over the fortunes of many financial institutions.

    For Rosengren and Kaplan, however, this is crazy talk since both men insisted their actions were “consistent with their respective bank’s code of conduct policies.” This may very well be true, although this only illustrates how the Federal Reserve System is soft on potential corruption within the ranks of its leadership.

    After all, Rosengren and Kaplan only offered to sell their holdings after a public scandal broke out.

    Non-Fed personnel were less sanguine on the issue.

    • Thanks: bomag, HammerJack, Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @El Dato

    Rosengren and Kaplan.

    Hmmm......

  48. With no connection other than Haiti, an interesting bit of iSteve type observation is that Haitian-Canadian musician Regine Chassagne from Arcade Fire apparently has a complexion lighter than that of either of her parents. Her parents fled the country during the baby doc era. Her aunt was murdered in a massacre of opposition supporters and she now supports various Haitian related charities and other endeavours.

    https://kanpe.org/en/sh_team/regine-chassagne/

  49. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    Here is something I will never forget. There was a newspaper article about people from an area church who went down to Haiti to help at an orphanage. One of them described how the new children will turn away from others at mealtime and protect their food. It is a big deal to get the children to sit normally at the dinner table and to stop guarding their food.

    Here is an interesting tidbit from Wikipedia light of the current immigration surge. I wonder how many of the Haitian women in Texas are pregnant?

    “While limited, evidence suggests that natural and man-made disasters can cause human populations to increase in the long term, rather than decrease. The Khmer Rouge conflict and 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami were followed by documented fertility spikes; potential causes may include reduced access to contraception and families desiring more children following child death. In Haiti’s case, the fertility rate nearly tripled after the 2010 Haiti earthquake and is likely to remain above pre-quake levels for many years.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Haiti

    • Replies: @bomag
    @notsaying

    I've seen it noted that disasters trigger an instinct to reproduce.

    Big problem is when the disaster of overpopulation triggers people to reproduce even more...

    , @bingobongo
    @notsaying

    in business school I met a girl who worked at an NGO in haiti. the haitians demanded more and more free stuff from the ngo workers and eventually started threatening their physical safety. this girl and her co-workers had to be evacuated. Lovely people who will attack the gibs providers. liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @notsaying

    , @Swamp Fox
    @notsaying

    Bumper sticker in Port au Prince post 2010 earthquake: "If This Mud Hut Is Rockin', Don't Come Aknockin'!"

  50. See, we could have had Guatemalans but no we had to stop the caravans.

    President Biden, build that wall!!!! Biden has be coopting the Trump agenda in Afghanistan so if Biden ships the Haitians back to Haiti and makes a show of wall building that would be the end of Trumpism. It is curious that this came out of nowhere, intelligence failure?

    Maybe Texas can send the abortions they are not using anymore to Haiti.

  51. • Thanks: Polistra
  52. Relatetd – from ID’s most important books list

    Abdelhady, Dalia, Nina Gren, and Martin Joormann, eds. 2020.
    Refugees and theViolence of Welfare Bureaucracies in Northern Europe
    . Manchester UniversityPress

    • Replies: @Dan Kurt
    @Dieter Kief

    RE: "from ID’s..." Dieter Kief

    How lazy can you get? Who or what is ID. Spell out the words.

    Dan Kurt

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief

  53. @International Jew
    @Achmed E. Newman

    He assumed (as Californians will) you knew that the coast always supports the Democrat. The inland counties will join them as soon as a few more cohorts of US-born Mexicans reach voting age. Drive around Fresno or Kings (Bakersfield) county and you'll rarely see any white people.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @OFWHAP

    That’s what I assumed too, but the right hand map is still a mystery as to what it actually represents. I will assume the legend was in the original tweet – otherwise, a map like this without a legend is garbage, just as is an engineering calculation with no units.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    an engineering calculation with no units.
     
    Not an engineering calculation, but:

    When online ordering of groceries was new years ago, I had a homebound relative in a metric-system country who ordered produce delivered, which was sold by weight. Unfortunately the weights on this website were in grams rather than kilograms (I think the labeling on the site may not have been accurate, but I am not sure), which made for a rather awkward delivery.
  54. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    When we needed to hire a diaper changer for my 90+ year old Mother in Law in Ft. Lauderdale, the Haitians were a ready source of that kind of labor. Indeed, the couple that I met could do little else as they were functionally illiterate and could only travel on the bus in rote fashion after someone showed them where to go. They couldn’t possibly figure out a bus schedule or anything else. I was always amazed that they generally spoke some passable English.

  55. 40,000 Haitians, when 100,000 Afghans just aren’t enough diversity.

  56. @Polistra
    As I asked yesterday, how are they getting from Haiti to Texas?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-boston-adopt-the-australian-solution-to-white-supremacy/#comment-4906411

    Isn't Florida a lot more convenient?

    That's the how. Won't mention the why.

    Replies: @bomag, @Henry's Cat

    Florida has a lot of experience with Haitians, and takes steps to guard against such things.

    Not sure about the pipeline to Texas, but with Haiti there is a lot of NGO money floating around, and I suspect the Haitians figure the best use of the money is to fund a human pipeline across our undefended border.

    • Thanks: Polistra
  57. @notsaying
    @Wilkey

    Here is something I will never forget. There was a newspaper article about people from an area church who went down to Haiti to help at an orphanage. One of them described how the new children will turn away from others at mealtime and protect their food. It is a big deal to get the children to sit normally at the dinner table and to stop guarding their food.

    Here is an interesting tidbit from Wikipedia light of the current immigration surge. I wonder how many of the Haitian women in Texas are pregnant?

    "While limited, evidence suggests that natural and man-made disasters can cause human populations to increase in the long term, rather than decrease. The Khmer Rouge conflict and 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami were followed by documented fertility spikes; potential causes may include reduced access to contraception and families desiring more children following child death. In Haiti's case, the fertility rate nearly tripled after the 2010 Haiti earthquake and is likely to remain above pre-quake levels for many years."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Haiti

    Replies: @bomag, @bingobongo, @Swamp Fox

    I’ve seen it noted that disasters trigger an instinct to reproduce.

    Big problem is when the disaster of overpopulation triggers people to reproduce even more…

    • Agree: notsaying
  58. @ArthurinCali
    Another one of those claims of returning to normalcy touted by the individual LARPing as the President.

    As bad as it sounds, at least this helps push the needle further to the eventual collapse.

    General M&M needs to get on the phone and talk to his BFF in China. They have plenty of space and jobs, right?

    Replies: @El Dato, @Prester John

    The question for the house is as follows: Will these pilgrims be welcomed by the good folks in West Hollywood, Santa Barbara, Greenwich (CT) and Brookline (MA)?

  59. @Known Fact
    Didn't Kamala get this border stuff all fixed?

    Replies: @Prester John

    She has to go back to conduct a more detailed assessment.

    As a footnote, the more I see Biden the more I begin to fear that my initial prediction that he wouldn’t get much past this coming January may well become true, which means that Guess Who ascends into the Oval Office as Biden is being simultaneously transported to some private psych facility for evaluation. Happy Trails!

  60. @Achmed E. Newman
    Holy crap, things are just accelerating in the direction of worse, for about every political issue I can think of. I wanted to have more time to make more plans. Now, you know what that graph a few days ago was about, although the Global Climate Disruption™ excuse was mighty stupid. Perhaps people just wanted to answer the question as to whether the world is ending in the affirmative, that silliness aside.

    As far as the TFR for the drones (usually for manned aircraft too), I looked and this is indeed suspicious. Many TFRs are set up for locations, such as where there are fire-fighting operations going on, in which more aircraft flying through would be a serious safety hazard. This one says "SECURITY" though. It goes up to 1,000 ft agl, and is only for unmanned aircraft. That means the Fox News guys ought to be able to get someone to fly them around in a high-wing Cessna over 1,000 ft and do whatever they want ... right up to the Mexican border, that is.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @mc23

    Better yet, go to Mexico and fly right up to the US border.

  61. Illegal migrants need no vaccine, citizens and soldiers are forced to get vaccinated. Under Trump leftist politicians and reporters were escorting illegals across the border, these people ban anyone filming a wave of Haitian invaders gathering beneath a bridge paid for by Americans.

    The self-regarding 0bamacult now does whatever they want and says screw you, you won’t do anything to stop us. Yarvin is right; if you let these people do whatever they want, they’ll keep doing it. The GOP is more useless than ever.

  62. White House Responds by Banning Fox’s Drone Coverage

    As long as you can’t see the problem, you can pretend it isn’t there. Apparently, Schrödinger’s cat didn’t live (or die) in vain.

  63. In a way, they’re just getting bolder and bolder. They’ve realized that they just don’t need to pay any attention at all to the 45% who didn’t vote for Biden.

    All Narrative, all the time. Haitians at the border? Never heard of it, and are you a racist? All Narrative, all the time.

    It worked in the last election.

  64. Anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @International Jew

    That's what I assumed too, but the right hand map is still a mystery as to what it actually represents. I will assume the legend was in the original tweet - otherwise, a map like this without a legend is garbage, just as is an engineering calculation with no units.

    Replies: @Anon

    an engineering calculation with no units.

    Not an engineering calculation, but:

    When online ordering of groceries was new years ago, I had a homebound relative in a metric-system country who ordered produce delivered, which was sold by weight. Unfortunately the weights on this website were in grams rather than kilograms (I think the labeling on the site may not have been accurate, but I am not sure), which made for a rather awkward delivery.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  65. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    People always talk about how poor Haiti is, but it’s pretty high income for an African country.

    I said that at the Amptoons blog, and got the response, “why should we compare it to to African countries?”

    Me: find a picture of Haitians. Look at it, then think very, very hard.

    [MORE]

    Haiti will be the first country to have a complete and total meltdown. Maybe it happened in near prehistoric states in the middle east way back when. But the Haitians have been stripping the forests for charcoal, and they are almost out of Forrest. Planting trees is white supremacy, so what can they do? Ever since gay for pay sex tourism became difficult due to the HIV situation, Haiti has struggled mightily to get a new source of hard currency.

    I knew a girl whose boyfriend was Haitian. He was part of the elite. I met him, and was like, “you’re whit? How did that happen?” Turns out there are white Haitians, descended from whites who were of some use, and were not slaughtered. For mysterious reasons, they are at the economic top of Haiti, though they do not exercise direct political power.

    I would be scared to be a white Haitian, but taxes are low, servants are cheap, the climate is pleasant, snd they are rich, so they can afford ipads and satellite tv. They are around 2% of the population, and have about 1/2 the countries income, so roughly \$2000*.5 = 1000/0.02 = 1000*50 = 59k/year pc income, but everything except imports is cheap. Climate’s nice, too.

    You gotta feel sorry for capitalists and landlords in the third world, having to exploit such low-quality human cattle, when capitalists in the first world live off such healthy herds. Life ain’t fair, yo.

    Chances are, if an eat the rich sentiment spread through Haiti, they’d be able to fly to America on private planes, and from America to France or perhaps to become the elite of some other third world nation, like ours.

    Expect a years-long media campaign about how we’re at fault for Haiti’s situation. We did occupy Haiti for a stretch, so that’s probably why they’re messed up, right? I mean, it could not have anything to do with the people.

    I honestly do kinda blame christo-cons, though. The third world needs birth control for the masses. The elite has it. If Haiti had 1000 Dutch people/square mile, it would be wealthy, but it has Haitians so it’s over-populated. Birth control could at least prevent a die-back or worse, emigration to America.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Rob

    In the modern world, as long as the West still has the capability, the food aid is going to keep flowing in and some Haitians are going to escape to richer countries and Haitians will keep having more babies. The same thing in Afghanistan and all the other places that are not self-sustaining in food and can't afford to buy imported food for cash. The mass starvation will only occur if the West falls apart because otherwise they will put pictures of starving babies on TV and the food aid will pour in and more babies will be made, for so as long as there is a TV to put pictures of starving babies on and food to send.

    , @Wilkey
    @Rob


    I honestly do kinda blame christo-cons, though. The third world needs birth control for the masses. The elite has it. If Haiti had 1000 Dutch people/square mile, it would be wealthy, but it has Haitians so it’s over-populated. Birth control could at least prevent a die-back or worse, emigration to America.
     
    Oh what, you mean the people who won't trust science when it comes to a vaccine that specifically targets a highly contagious virus but will trust science when it comes to a medicine used to target parasitic infections....but want to that medicine against a virus?

    The problem with democracy is that so many political issues rely on an understanding of math and science to come to the best decision, but a frightfully small number of our voters (and political leaders) have any understanding of math and science at all. This, of course, applies to as many (or more) Democrats as it does Republicans.

    A sane society may not actively bar such people from voting, but it definitely wouldn't work too hard to encourage more of this people to vote. But by introducing mail-in voting and fighting to end state bans on convicted felons voting that is exactly what we're doing.
    , @Gabe Ruth
    @Rob

    At least when WN incels rant about how Jews are responsible for their plight, they are identifying a group with some clout, and they get plenty of pilpul pushback from the Hasbara brigade.

    But fedoras and their sympathizers presume this stranglehold that the pope or fundamentalists have over the reproductive choices of third world masses, and no one skips a beat. One starts to suspect there is a subconscious desire to join the strong horse in bashing a fashionable (and powerless) scapegoat.

    I appreciate your generally thoughtful comments though, diversity of thought is the only kind diversity that actually has any of the benefits frequently claimed by our rulers, and you bring some here.

  66. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years.

    There’s a Woke explanation for this. After the loss of Haiti, the French government forced the Haitian government to pay the former white landowners of Haiti compensation for the property that had been taken from them starting in 1825. These payments (so the story goes) caused Haiti to be impoverished. If they hadn’t been made, Haiti would be Wakanda by now.

    So you see it IS the white people’s fault. It’s ALWAYS the white people’s fault (see redlining). If you haven’t found a way to blame white people for black dysfunction, it just means that you haven’t dug down deep enough for the real root causes, so keep digging.

    • Agree: Unladen Swallow
    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Jack D

    How do they explain the condition of the other ~50 black majority countries?

    Oh nevermind. I'm sure they have a bullshit explanation for each and every one.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Corvinus
    @Jack D

    “So you see it IS the white people’s fault. It’s ALWAYS the white people’s fault (see redlining).“

    You mean it’s the fault of white elitists and Jews. Get it straight next time instead of protecting your tribe.

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @Jack D

    I believe there are other factors, but it doesn't seem crazy to think French extortion (repayment continued until 1947) played a significant part in Haiti's trajectory, especially next to 1619 claims about why this country isn't Haiti.

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D

    This is partly true but there are a number of other factors.

    Haiti was once the wealthiest colony in the world and its exports of coffee, sugar, rum, tobacco and so on made a vast contribution to the French economy.

    However after the revolution the generals of the revolution took over most of the land for themselves and their families, and the ruling elite in Haiti, which comprised a small part of the population is comprised of the descendants of those generals.

    Haiti is largely mountainous and a lot of the land is lacking in economic value. Originally heavily forested, most of the trees were cut down to send expensive mahogany as tribute to the French for reparations, and with ensuing soil erosion, plus the burning of a lot of wood for cooking and heating, as Haiti had no other source of fuel, did immense long-term damage.

    As the second revolutionary state in the Americas, Haiti did not get a lot of help from the other revolutionary state, which was terrified because of its own slavery problem.

    In the twentieth century the US occupied Haiti for 20 years, and even since has continued to economically support corrupt governments in Haiti who will be favorable to American interests. For example the lives of impoverished shareholders of American rice-growing corporations have been given priority over the lives of impoverished Haitian rice farmers which has tended to drive farmers off the land and into the cities where there are not enough jobs.

    The fact that Haiti is still economically worse off than Cuba after getting all this help from the US certainly gives ground for thought. Perhaps if the US had sent enough aid to Cuba, the revolution would have imploded.

    So there you have it. Haiti today has not much tourism, not much natural resources, and is completely lacking in modern infrastructure other than cell phone networks mostly run by Digicel, a cell phone company owned by an Irishman and registered in Bermuda, which sucks a lot of money out of Haiti.

    To make matters worse, the education system in Haiti is terrible. Only about 22% of children go to school after the age of 11.

    Oh, and there is a lot of crime and some of the people are so stupid that they would rather die of Covid-19 and leave their children as orphans than get free vaccinations. Can you believe it?

  67. @Che Blutarsky
    @Dan Hayes

    The mysterious deaths of all of the white people on that side of Hispaniola was also a contributing factor to the paranoia of the antebellum South.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia

    Yes, also many white Haitian refugees settled across the South and readily shared their stories.

  68. @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar


    In related news, voting for recall is a symptom of cooties Covid:
     
    Are the maps inaccurate?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @NOTA

    If only there were some pithy catchphrase about the relationship between correlation and causation….

  69. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor.

    Is it really? The fact is that Haiti is like Ukraine: a tiny group of people control all the wealth. In Ukraine they are nearly all Jews. In Haiti, only some of them are, like Gilbert Bigio, the wealthiest man in Haiti. So while Haitians are pretty useless overall, their nation is basically being sucked dry of whatever wealth it has by a small group of massive exploiters.

    • Replies: @BB
    @peterike

    Ukraine is not poor as the stats indicate. It is not third world, not even close. Look at the Purchasing Power there. Ukraine average salaries are low but the housing and food and land costs are also extremely low. Education is fine. It has good and free health care. The country is developed, with a good infrastructure. Its Human Development Index is high.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @John Johnson
    @peterike

    Is it really? The fact is that Haiti is like Ukraine

    HA oh man that is funny.

    Haiti is nothing like the Ukraine.

    Poor Haitians actually make mud cakes and eat them to fill their stomachs. Yes actual mud.

    Drinks are sold in zip lock bags.

    Most of their clothes are donated from the US.

    There are actually very few landmarks that were built by Haitians and not the French.

    But thanks for the laugh.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @peterike

    Levantine Christians own Haiti.

  70. @notsaying
    @Wilkey

    Here is something I will never forget. There was a newspaper article about people from an area church who went down to Haiti to help at an orphanage. One of them described how the new children will turn away from others at mealtime and protect their food. It is a big deal to get the children to sit normally at the dinner table and to stop guarding their food.

    Here is an interesting tidbit from Wikipedia light of the current immigration surge. I wonder how many of the Haitian women in Texas are pregnant?

    "While limited, evidence suggests that natural and man-made disasters can cause human populations to increase in the long term, rather than decrease. The Khmer Rouge conflict and 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami were followed by documented fertility spikes; potential causes may include reduced access to contraception and families desiring more children following child death. In Haiti's case, the fertility rate nearly tripled after the 2010 Haiti earthquake and is likely to remain above pre-quake levels for many years."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Haiti

    Replies: @bomag, @bingobongo, @Swamp Fox

    in business school I met a girl who worked at an NGO in haiti. the haitians demanded more and more free stuff from the ngo workers and eventually started threatening their physical safety. this girl and her co-workers had to be evacuated. Lovely people who will attack the gibs providers. liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @bingobongo

    That is the reason people are advised not to feed bears and other large wild animals.

    , @notsaying
    @bingobongo

    I would certainly believe that -- but I think few to none of the Haitians they served were doing that -- they benefit from a lot more from constant aid, not just one big grab -- but were also the victims of those threatening and robbing the NGOs, too.

    Stealing from Westerners is a full time job for people in these places. Afghanistan, too. We are going to send them aid again and much will go into the hands of the people who chased us out.

    If there is a solution to all this, I do not know what it is. It would have been better for them if the Marines down there never left.

  71. Remember when Trump called Haiti a “shithole country” and Conan O’Brien did a show trying to prove him wrong? Conan tweeted a picture of himself swimming in a pristine lagoon (with denuded mountains in the background). Then the Photoshop mavens got to work:

    [MORE]

    Incidentally, I have made yet another imaginary attempt to interview the esteemed president of the United States. I was exhausted when I recorded it, so it’s a little sluggish.

  72. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    Leftists say that Haiti stayed poor because France enacted vengeful reparations:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti_indemnity_controversy

    Although that must have played a part – although it’s unclear how great a burden it was in terms of GDP – I assume the technoogical revolution in farming mostly passed them by.

  73. @Polistra
    As I asked yesterday, how are they getting from Haiti to Texas?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-boston-adopt-the-australian-solution-to-white-supremacy/#comment-4906411

    Isn't Florida a lot more convenient?

    That's the how. Won't mention the why.

    Replies: @bomag, @Henry's Cat

    I read that most of these Haitians are already living in South America, many since the earthquake in 2011.

  74. Illegal Haitians are camped under a bridge in Del Rio with scant access to clean water, little food, and few toilets. When asked about these squalid condition, a migrant who goes by the name Raoul said, “what’s a toilet?”

  75. If I were Fox, I would keep flying the drones in defiance of the ban. They can well afford the fines and the resulting publicity would be well worth it.

    It will end up having a Streisand Effect – by trying to hush this up, they have only brought more attention upon themselves. The pictures of the thousands of people under the bridge are already out there and aren’t going away and preventing the taking of more pictures of the same isn’t going to make the already bad optics even worse (nor is the NYTimes going to print the new pictures any more than the old ones, which is to say, not at all).

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Rob
    @Jack D

    How would other news sources cover Fox getting fined droning for Haitians,

    “Following rumors of illegal border crossing last month, Fox News flew drones over the border. While they claim they have video of Haitians crossing the border, we have not confirmed [because we did not try] the authenticity. Citing national security concerns that providing public video of the border region enables undocumented migration across the arbitrary line, the FAA has banned drones within 5 [?] miles of the border. In keeping with their support of the January 6th insurrection, Fox News’ defiance of this ban produced no significant new information, but has endangered the brave men and women working hard to protect us from drug traffickers. Fox News claims the new video shows busses from California schools transporting Haitians from the border to red states, but this was not confirmed by our research department [none of whom watched the video]. In other news, January sixth insurrectionist Bob [Whatever] has close ties to Russia in his family. Some are speculating about a Russian connection to January 6th. Putin, who banned gay bride parades, has called these allegations ‘absurd’…”

    Media has totally bifurcated. MS-NBC and CNN show a Potemkin village where everything would be great, if Republicans weren’t so mean. Something like half of their guests “experts” are black, with all the objectivity and insight that entails. They cover hurricanes, Jan 6, Trump-Russia, a black had a negative interaction with a cop (none of this since Biden took office), and today’s politics. That’s all. Fox is dedicated to today’s outrageous trifle, never on the big picture. Tucker is the exception.

    There is no news source progs and cons consider legitimate, so there is no cross-communication. Progs get ‘the great replacement means white progressives in charge forever.” The right gets “a teacher said a thing” to distract them.

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Jack D


    If I were Fox, I would keep flying the drones in defiance of the ban. They can well afford the fines and the resulting publicity would be well worth it.
     
    Well, since they made a movie about how great the elite media was in publishing the Pentagon papers in defiance of The White House, maybe Fox should tell people with drones that they will pay money for airing new drone footage that people take.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6cC-si8lQk
    , @JMcG
    @Jack D

    After the FAA gets done with them, I’m sure the FCC would be happy to step in and yank their broadcasting license. We are no longer a nation of laws. Even I am shocked at how quickly we are transforming into a dictatorship. Never in my life would I have believed that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs would act in the manner of that scumbag Milley.

  76. @Rob
    @Wilkey

    People always talk about how poor Haiti is, but it’s pretty high income for an African country.

    I said that at the Amptoons blog, and got the response, “why should we compare it to to African countries?”

    Me: find a picture of Haitians. Look at it, then think very, very hard.

    Haiti will be the first country to have a complete and total meltdown. Maybe it happened in near prehistoric states in the middle east way back when. But the Haitians have been stripping the forests for charcoal, and they are almost out of Forrest. Planting trees is white supremacy, so what can they do? Ever since gay for pay sex tourism became difficult due to the HIV situation, Haiti has struggled mightily to get a new source of hard currency.

    I knew a girl whose boyfriend was Haitian. He was part of the elite. I met him, and was like, “you're whit? How did that happen?” Turns out there are white Haitians, descended from whites who were of some use, and were not slaughtered. For mysterious reasons, they are at the economic top of Haiti, though they do not exercise direct political power.

    I would be scared to be a white Haitian, but taxes are low, servants are cheap, the climate is pleasant, snd they are rich, so they can afford ipads and satellite tv. They are around 2% of the population, and have about 1/2 the countries income, so roughly $2000*.5 = 1000/0.02 = 1000*50 = 59k/year pc income, but everything except imports is cheap. Climate’s nice, too.

    You gotta feel sorry for capitalists and landlords in the third world, having to exploit such low-quality human cattle, when capitalists in the first world live off such healthy herds. Life ain't fair, yo.

    Chances are, if an eat the rich sentiment spread through Haiti, they’d be able to fly to America on private planes, and from America to France or perhaps to become the elite of some other third world nation, like ours.

    Expect a years-long media campaign about how we’re at fault for Haiti’s situation. We did occupy Haiti for a stretch, so that’s probably why they’re messed up, right? I mean, it could not have anything to do with the people.

    I honestly do kinda blame christo-cons, though. The third world needs birth control for the masses. The elite has it. If Haiti had 1000 Dutch people/square mile, it would be wealthy, but it has Haitians so it’s over-populated. Birth control could at least prevent a die-back or worse, emigration to America.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Wilkey, @Gabe Ruth

    In the modern world, as long as the West still has the capability, the food aid is going to keep flowing in and some Haitians are going to escape to richer countries and Haitians will keep having more babies. The same thing in Afghanistan and all the other places that are not self-sustaining in food and can’t afford to buy imported food for cash. The mass starvation will only occur if the West falls apart because otherwise they will put pictures of starving babies on TV and the food aid will pour in and more babies will be made, for so as long as there is a TV to put pictures of starving babies on and food to send.

  77. @Wilkey
    Haiti has 11.4 million people in a country less than 11,000 square miles. That's over 1,000 people per square mile. Haiti isn't exactly full of bright people, so agriculture/resource extraction is about the only work they might possibly do that's of value. It's hard to find much work like that for everyone when your country is that densely populated.

    The end result is that Haiti's GDP is less than $2,000 per capita, ranking it 172nd in the world (out of 213). It's not difficult to see a day when 80-90% of Haitians decide to up and move to the USA, if we don't keep them out.

    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven't been slaves in over 200 years.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Dan Hayes, @Hypnotoad666, @Stephen Paul Foster, @notsaying, @Seneca44, @Rob, @Jack D, @peterike, @Henry's Cat, @ABCDE

    Haiti’s fertility rate has been falling for decades. While still high (2.8) it is less than half of what it was in 1985 and the rate drops yearly. In 20 years or so, they will be only at replacement level. Half of their birth control is by injection which is a very reliable method.It would seem our best strategy would be to work on small things – soil improvement, tree planting and keep the aid for birth control as high as can be absorbed. If we can help them to even a slightly more productive agriculture and faster to a fertility rate of 2, something that actually seems extremely possible looking at trends, I see no reason for a collapse. Just Keep the Clintons and their friends and the Catholic Church out of it.

  78. @Rob
    @Wilkey

    People always talk about how poor Haiti is, but it’s pretty high income for an African country.

    I said that at the Amptoons blog, and got the response, “why should we compare it to to African countries?”

    Me: find a picture of Haitians. Look at it, then think very, very hard.

    Haiti will be the first country to have a complete and total meltdown. Maybe it happened in near prehistoric states in the middle east way back when. But the Haitians have been stripping the forests for charcoal, and they are almost out of Forrest. Planting trees is white supremacy, so what can they do? Ever since gay for pay sex tourism became difficult due to the HIV situation, Haiti has struggled mightily to get a new source of hard currency.

    I knew a girl whose boyfriend was Haitian. He was part of the elite. I met him, and was like, “you're whit? How did that happen?” Turns out there are white Haitians, descended from whites who were of some use, and were not slaughtered. For mysterious reasons, they are at the economic top of Haiti, though they do not exercise direct political power.

    I would be scared to be a white Haitian, but taxes are low, servants are cheap, the climate is pleasant, snd they are rich, so they can afford ipads and satellite tv. They are around 2% of the population, and have about 1/2 the countries income, so roughly $2000*.5 = 1000/0.02 = 1000*50 = 59k/year pc income, but everything except imports is cheap. Climate’s nice, too.

    You gotta feel sorry for capitalists and landlords in the third world, having to exploit such low-quality human cattle, when capitalists in the first world live off such healthy herds. Life ain't fair, yo.

    Chances are, if an eat the rich sentiment spread through Haiti, they’d be able to fly to America on private planes, and from America to France or perhaps to become the elite of some other third world nation, like ours.

    Expect a years-long media campaign about how we’re at fault for Haiti’s situation. We did occupy Haiti for a stretch, so that’s probably why they’re messed up, right? I mean, it could not have anything to do with the people.

    I honestly do kinda blame christo-cons, though. The third world needs birth control for the masses. The elite has it. If Haiti had 1000 Dutch people/square mile, it would be wealthy, but it has Haitians so it’s over-populated. Birth control could at least prevent a die-back or worse, emigration to America.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Wilkey, @Gabe Ruth

    I honestly do kinda blame christo-cons, though. The third world needs birth control for the masses. The elite has it. If Haiti had 1000 Dutch people/square mile, it would be wealthy, but it has Haitians so it’s over-populated. Birth control could at least prevent a die-back or worse, emigration to America.

    Oh what, you mean the people who won’t trust science when it comes to a vaccine that specifically targets a highly contagious virus but will trust science when it comes to a medicine used to target parasitic infections….but want to that medicine against a virus?

    The problem with democracy is that so many political issues rely on an understanding of math and science to come to the best decision, but a frightfully small number of our voters (and political leaders) have any understanding of math and science at all. This, of course, applies to as many (or more) Democrats as it does Republicans.

    A sane society may not actively bar such people from voting, but it definitely wouldn’t work too hard to encourage more of this people to vote. But by introducing mail-in voting and fighting to end state bans on convicted felons voting that is exactly what we’re doing.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
  79. @Trelane
    This year migrant crisis. Next year, housing crisis.

    We don't have millions of spare housing units lying around.

    In fact there's a shortage.

    Where are we going to house the vibrants?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @notsaying, @Alden

    Where are we going to house ourselves, too? For years the assumption was that housing is no problem. It will magically appear or that people can go from the bigger cities out where housing is cheap.

    After decades of huge intake of lower income immigrants, however, between gentrification and almost no new housing being built for people who cannot afford market rate rents, that long era has come to an end. Rents and housing prices have gone up like crazy.

    I saw last week that the country is down 5 million single family houses for what it needs and the people we are talking about do not live in SFH, they live in apartments and townhouses. Rent refugees are all over America now, pushing up rents for people in smaller places where employers will not pay more so they can afford jacked up rents. This is happening where I am. We have been getting blacks from big cities for years. The day the Hispanics surge in, we are done. I am very worried personally about my ability to pay higher rents now and in the future.

    I have talked about the unprecedented housing crisis coming for over a year and it is clearly here now. Just starting, but here. Covid eviction moratoriums that led to nonpayment of rents to small landlords who are selling out to real estate investors have accelerated and worsened negative trends that existed before the pandemic.

    • Agree: Wilkey
    • Replies: @Rob
    @notsaying

    I saw a piece John Oliver did on Last Week Tonight, the only place that does in depth research, these days, sadly. It was about investors, like private equity, maybe hedge funds, too, buying up trailer parks from their then-current owners, who are usually sole proprietors, and jacking up rents.

    That was bad news for the rest of us, in the long run, but we did not care, because we don’t live in trailer parks. It mattered for everyone because the lower end of the apartment market competes with trailer parks. I’m sure lots of people prefer trailers to slum apartments, but trailer parks have a certain stigma over and above living in a bad area of the white part of town. Pretty sure I’d rather live in a trailer than a small (or large) apartment in the black part of town, where rents are likely comparable, though I have not checked. The alternative to a trailer is living in your car, and it’s hard to have a normal life when you do that.

    Consider the trailer as the margin of cultivation. Let’s say trailer lots cost $100 bucks a month and people with $500/month income value not living in a trailer at 100 bucks. I can only rent my slummy apartments out for $200, cuz I raise prices over that, and my clientele moves to the trailer park. If the trailer park costs 200, then I can raise my rent to 300 before people head to the trailers. Rising prices of necessities at the bottom inevitably work their way up, as people compete for a good that’s limited in the short run, and in the long run in Cali and NYC. Now maybe something else interferes, like my renters’ friends all moving to trailer parks, so the stigma goes away. See Georgism for details.

    Maybe the increases in rents at the bottom are just the result of importing a ton of people who can’t produce much wealth, because they aren’t very smart? But we export heavily towards the top of non-verbally oriented jobs. By verbally, I mean where a foreign accent hurts your income. Computer programming requires verbal ability, but it customers cannot hear the programmers talk.

    Maybe private equity and hedge funds(?) buying lots of rental properties was inevitable with the IT revolution? It makes monitoring and price-differentiating very heterogeneous goods much easier. They also have advantages with service providers. A company that own 3 million homes can probably push insurance companies around. They may own enough that large numbers makes insurance unprofitable. The home itself can aid in monitoring the tenant to see if he’s trashing the place.

    Maybe nothing’s changed in real estate, and they are buying against inflation, and will sell again after American Nazis put the kibosh on hyperinflation?

    Replies: @notsaying

  80. @Anon
    @Sick 'n Tired

    Scott Alexander had a post about his experiences in Haiti: https://web.archive.org/web/20150407223525/http://squid314.livejournal.com/297579.html


    But I was going to talk about the patients. I don't really blame the patients. I think they're reacting as best they can to the perceived inadequacies around nurses and doctors. But they seem to have this insane mindset, exactly the opposite of that prevailing in parts of the States, where medicine is good. In particular, getting more medicine of any type is always a good thing and will make them healthier, and doctors are these strange heartless people who will prevent them from taking a stomach medication just because maybe they don't have a stomach problem at this exact moment. As a result, they lie like heck. I didn't realize exactly how much they were lying until I heard the story, now a legend at our clinic, of the man who came in complaining of vaginal discharge. He had heard some woman come in complaining of vaginal discharge and get lots of medication for it, so he figured he should try his luck with the same. And this wasn't an isolated incident, either. Complaints will go in "fads", so that if a guy comes in complaining of ear pain and gets lots of medicine, on his way out he'll mention it to the other patients in line and they'll all mention ear pain too - or so the translators and veteran staff have told me.
     

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    “[I]nadequacies around nurses and doctors”? That’s taking the “around” fad to another level. Does this guy ever converse with normal people?

  81. @Jack D
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years.
     
    There's a Woke explanation for this. After the loss of Haiti, the French government forced the Haitian government to pay the former white landowners of Haiti compensation for the property that had been taken from them starting in 1825. These payments (so the story goes) caused Haiti to be impoverished. If they hadn't been made, Haiti would be Wakanda by now.

    So you see it IS the white people's fault. It's ALWAYS the white people's fault (see redlining). If you haven't found a way to blame white people for black dysfunction, it just means that you haven't dug down deep enough for the real root causes, so keep digging.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Corvinus, @Gabe Ruth, @Jonathan Mason

    How do they explain the condition of the other ~50 black majority countries?

    Oh nevermind. I’m sure they have a bullshit explanation for each and every one.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    Well, legacy of colonialism/ legacy of slavery covers most of them. In the case of Ethiopia, which is the only black country that was never colonized, it's a legacy of the invasion by the Italian fascists. I think that covers all of them.

    Replies: @BB

  82. @Buzz Mohawk
    This is going to be good. Haitians make such wonderful workers and honest citizens. Diversity is Our Strength, especially when it's Haitians.

    Explanation: I caught the one Haitian employee I ever had, years ago, taking supplies out of the office and putting them in the trunk of his car.

    Years later, I ran into him at a large, public event. He had become a minister and was running a Haitian church.

    Replies: @Currahee, @Truth

    Well it was nice that you donated his whiteboard.

  83. The huge overnight surge of Haitians is interesting and frankly frightening to me.

    Years ago when I was in New York I was shocked when I found out how many illegal aliens they had from the Dominican Republic. I thought how can you have so many people from one tiny place and also thought, Haiti is much poorer, why not more people from there? I figured the Haitians didn’t even have the money to come up and I still suspect that was true then.

    But through the years more and more came. Through the years it became clear to me that the more immigrants you get, the more immigrants you get. The desire to come grows, as does the means to come as more friends and relatives already here provide money and a place to stay.

    This is a perfect example of that. The more people we get from around the world coming to Biden’s open borders America, the more we will get. Reversing that will be hard, very hard indeed.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @notsaying


    Reversing that will be hard, very hard indeed.
     
    Not necessarily. It depends on your mindset.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOTBU5QJJWM
  84. @International Jew
    @Achmed E. Newman

    He assumed (as Californians will) you knew that the coast always supports the Democrat. The inland counties will join them as soon as a few more cohorts of US-born Mexicans reach voting age. Drive around Fresno or Kings (Bakersfield) county and you'll rarely see any white people.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @OFWHAP

    Drive around Fresno or Kings (Bakersfield) county and you’ll rarely see any white people.

    For instance I know a Salvadoran who just moved from San Francisco to Fresno.

  85. @Ron Mexico
    @Trelane

    Alma, MI city council just voted to use abandoned nursing home to house migrant kids aged 12-18. Last Spring, Albion, MI accepts migrant kids at the not full capacity Starr Commonwealth residential school.

    Clemens meat packing plant in Coldwater, MI now employing dozens of Haitian workers and housing them in recently built section 8 apartments near Home Depot and Wal-Mart.

    Just a snapshot.

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Reg Cæsar

    Housing 18-years-old and 12-years-old kids in the same facility will work great!

  86. Leave them to heaven.

  87. @Tono Bungay
    I hate to say this, but from my experience in France I think Haitians are far from the worst people we could be letting in. I voted for Trump, in large part because he was at least somewhat anti-immigration (in line with Ann Coulter), and I'd vote for a 20-year moratorium, but my rough estimate of problematic-ness puts Haitians way below Somalis, Afghans and Pakistanis, for instance.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Menschmaschine

    Ron, we need a ‘Cope’ button.

  88. @Wilkey
    @Jack D

    How do they explain the condition of the other ~50 black majority countries?

    Oh nevermind. I'm sure they have a bullshit explanation for each and every one.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Well, legacy of colonialism/ legacy of slavery covers most of them. In the case of Ethiopia, which is the only black country that was never colonized, it’s a legacy of the invasion by the Italian fascists. I think that covers all of them.

    • Replies: @BB
    @Jack D

    Ethiopia and also Eritrea don’t blame anything on the Italians. All in all they have a great deal of self respect in those countries. They don’t whine.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  89. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Why do people keep pretending there isn't an anti-White agenda?

    This is too specific; letting in hordes of non-Whites to be part of our polity while banning anyone from even covering it. This is combined with government programs of forced integration targeting White communities and spaces.

    I think UN Resolution 260 has something to say about this.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

    Why do people keep pretending there isn’t an anti-White agenda?

    It’s been there from the beginning– 1619. Even 1614, if you count miscegenation. Some folks pretend that wasn’t anti-white.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    So you agree there is an ongoing anti-White agenda.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  90. @Jack D
    If I were Fox, I would keep flying the drones in defiance of the ban. They can well afford the fines and the resulting publicity would be well worth it.

    It will end up having a Streisand Effect - by trying to hush this up, they have only brought more attention upon themselves. The pictures of the thousands of people under the bridge are already out there and aren't going away and preventing the taking of more pictures of the same isn't going to make the already bad optics even worse (nor is the NYTimes going to print the new pictures any more than the old ones, which is to say, not at all).

    Replies: @Rob, @Joe Stalin, @JMcG

    How would other news sources cover Fox getting fined droning for Haitians,

    “Following rumors of illegal border crossing last month, Fox News flew drones over the border. While they claim they have video of Haitians crossing the border, we have not confirmed [because we did not try] the authenticity. Citing national security concerns that providing public video of the border region enables undocumented migration across the arbitrary line, the FAA has banned drones within 5 [?] miles of the border. In keeping with their support of the January 6th insurrection, Fox News’ defiance of this ban produced no significant new information, but has endangered the brave men and women working hard to protect us from drug traffickers. Fox News claims the new video shows busses from California schools transporting Haitians from the border to red states, but this was not confirmed by our research department [none of whom watched the video]. In other news, January sixth insurrectionist Bob [Whatever] has close ties to Russia in his family. Some are speculating about a Russian connection to January 6th. Putin, who banned gay bride parades, has called these allegations ‘absurd’…”

    Media has totally bifurcated. MS-NBC and CNN show a Potemkin village where everything would be great, if Republicans weren’t so mean. Something like half of their guests “experts” are black, with all the objectivity and insight that entails. They cover hurricanes, Jan 6, Trump-Russia, a black had a negative interaction with a cop (none of this since Biden took office), and today’s politics. That’s all. Fox is dedicated to today’s outrageous trifle, never on the big picture. Tucker is the exception.

    There is no news source progs and cons consider legitimate, so there is no cross-communication. Progs get ‘the great replacement means white progressives in charge forever.” The right gets “a teacher said a thing” to distract them.

    • Thanks: El Dato
  91. @Anonymous
    @Anon

    It all rides on what they deem a "hospitalization" for cases -- what you or I might think of as a non-hospitalization, e.g. getting a dram of Coof Tussin after waiting 30 min in the ER, they might score otherwise.

    If the map is for a vaxx threshold that's practically useless too, because the ruddier ones are all less urban (except for Kern). When you don't live within a mile of anybody else or have appointments outside of driving tractors from one ditch to another, is obeisance to Pfizer and Moderna really in the Top 100 list of things to get right onto?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Remember, the “Spanish flu” got that name because neutral Spain was the only Western country that didn’t censor her press. Word got out.

  92. @peterike
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor.

     

    Is it really? The fact is that Haiti is like Ukraine: a tiny group of people control all the wealth. In Ukraine they are nearly all Jews. In Haiti, only some of them are, like Gilbert Bigio, the wealthiest man in Haiti. So while Haitians are pretty useless overall, their nation is basically being sucked dry of whatever wealth it has by a small group of massive exploiters.

    Replies: @BB, @John Johnson, @JohnnyWalker123

    Ukraine is not poor as the stats indicate. It is not third world, not even close. Look at the Purchasing Power there. Ukraine average salaries are low but the housing and food and land costs are also extremely low. Education is fine. It has good and free health care. The country is developed, with a good infrastructure. Its Human Development Index is high.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB

    Incomes in Ukraine are very unequal (but not in the ridiculous anti-Semitic way that peterike paints - the Nazis and their Ukrainian collaborators killed maybe 90% of the Jewish population but apparently that's not enough for old pete - he won't be satisfied unless Ukraine is 100% Judenrein).

    Lviv is a reasonably modern city with clean graffiti free streets and nicely restored pre-WWI buildings housing banks and sidewalk beer gardens (they like beer a lot) and shops and restaurants and so on. You would not quite mistake it for Paris (or even Prague or Warsaw) but neither is it like the falling down slums of Port au Prince or Havana. The place is as neat as a pin. (No vibrant immigrants to litter - too poor for that). People work in these tourist oriented business or in offices, hospitals, universities, etc. - salaries are low by Western standards but so are living expenses.

    But if you go out to the countryside, people are still riding in horse drawn hay wagons (usually they have rubber tires because they have been improvised from a couple of old truck axles). If you are really lucky, you pile the hay on the roof of your pre- 1991 Zhiguli (Lada in the West), which gives the place a sort of Havana time warp feeling. A lot of older people live at a subsistence level where they eat whatever they can grow in their own gardens. Maybe they keep a cow (thus all that hay) and have milk and sour cream and cottage cheese to eat with their potatoes. They are largely outside the cash economy. Thus the average per capita GDP appears to be quite low because some people make essentially nothing in cash (although they are not starving).

  93. @El Dato
    @Colin Wright

    Timber prices are going to come down any moment now.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Timber prices are going to come down any moment now.

    As is timber itself.

  94. @bingobongo
    @notsaying

    in business school I met a girl who worked at an NGO in haiti. the haitians demanded more and more free stuff from the ngo workers and eventually started threatening their physical safety. this girl and her co-workers had to be evacuated. Lovely people who will attack the gibs providers. liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @notsaying

    That is the reason people are advised not to feed bears and other large wild animals.

  95. @bingobongo
    @notsaying

    in business school I met a girl who worked at an NGO in haiti. the haitians demanded more and more free stuff from the ngo workers and eventually started threatening their physical safety. this girl and her co-workers had to be evacuated. Lovely people who will attack the gibs providers. liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @notsaying

    I would certainly believe that — but I think few to none of the Haitians they served were doing that — they benefit from a lot more from constant aid, not just one big grab — but were also the victims of those threatening and robbing the NGOs, too.

    Stealing from Westerners is a full time job for people in these places. Afghanistan, too. We are going to send them aid again and much will go into the hands of the people who chased us out.

    If there is a solution to all this, I do not know what it is. It would have been better for them if the Marines down there never left.

  96. @El Dato
    Let's check on the fiat money outlet.

    You’ll Be Shocked the Learn There's Corruption at the Fed

    ... Dallas Fed President Robert Kaplan made numerous trades worth $1 million or more last year. Meanwhile, Boston Fed President Eric Rosengren last year was making large trades in real estate investment trusts, possibly in the six-figures range.

    The problem here is obvious to any normal person who watches the Fed.

    The Fed is not just an instrument of monetary policy, but a regulator of financial institutions. The Fed regulates bank holding companies, foreign banks working in the US, hundreds of state members banks, and other institutions as well. This gives Fed policymakers an enormous amount of control over the fortunes of many financial institutions.

    ...

    For Rosengren and Kaplan, however, this is crazy talk since both men insisted their actions were “consistent with their respective bank’s code of conduct policies.” This may very well be true, although this only illustrates how the Federal Reserve System is soft on potential corruption within the ranks of its leadership.

    After all, Rosengren and Kaplan only offered to sell their holdings after a public scandal broke out.

    Non-Fed personnel were less sanguine on the issue.
     

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Rosengren and Kaplan.

    Hmmm……

  97. Fox News seems to be the only serious news network left in the U.S.

  98. @notsaying
    The huge overnight surge of Haitians is interesting and frankly frightening to me.

    Years ago when I was in New York I was shocked when I found out how many illegal aliens they had from the Dominican Republic. I thought how can you have so many people from one tiny place and also thought, Haiti is much poorer, why not more people from there? I figured the Haitians didn't even have the money to come up and I still suspect that was true then.

    But through the years more and more came. Through the years it became clear to me that the more immigrants you get, the more immigrants you get. The desire to come grows, as does the means to come as more friends and relatives already here provide money and a place to stay.

    This is a perfect example of that. The more people we get from around the world coming to Biden's open borders America, the more we will get. Reversing that will be hard, very hard indeed.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Reversing that will be hard, very hard indeed.

    Not necessarily. It depends on your mindset.

  99. @notsaying
    @Trelane

    Where are we going to house ourselves, too? For years the assumption was that housing is no problem. It will magically appear or that people can go from the bigger cities out where housing is cheap.

    After decades of huge intake of lower income immigrants, however, between gentrification and almost no new housing being built for people who cannot afford market rate rents, that long era has come to an end. Rents and housing prices have gone up like crazy.

    I saw last week that the country is down 5 million single family houses for what it needs and the people we are talking about do not live in SFH, they live in apartments and townhouses. Rent refugees are all over America now, pushing up rents for people in smaller places where employers will not pay more so they can afford jacked up rents. This is happening where I am. We have been getting blacks from big cities for years. The day the Hispanics surge in, we are done. I am very worried personally about my ability to pay higher rents now and in the future.

    I have talked about the unprecedented housing crisis coming for over a year and it is clearly here now. Just starting, but here. Covid eviction moratoriums that led to nonpayment of rents to small landlords who are selling out to real estate investors have accelerated and worsened negative trends that existed before the pandemic.

    Replies: @Rob

    I saw a piece John Oliver did on Last Week Tonight, the only place that does in depth research, these days, sadly. It was about investors, like private equity, maybe hedge funds, too, buying up trailer parks from their then-current owners, who are usually sole proprietors, and jacking up rents.

    That was bad news for the rest of us, in the long run, but we did not care, because we don’t live in trailer parks. It mattered for everyone because the lower end of the apartment market competes with trailer parks. I’m sure lots of people prefer trailers to slum apartments, but trailer parks have a certain stigma over and above living in a bad area of the white part of town. Pretty sure I’d rather live in a trailer than a small (or large) apartment in the black part of town, where rents are likely comparable, though I have not checked. The alternative to a trailer is living in your car, and it’s hard to have a normal life when you do that.

    Consider the trailer as the margin of cultivation. Let’s say trailer lots cost \$100 bucks a month and people with \$500/month income value not living in a trailer at 100 bucks. I can only rent my slummy apartments out for \$200, cuz I raise prices over that, and my clientele moves to the trailer park. If the trailer park costs 200, then I can raise my rent to 300 before people head to the trailers. Rising prices of necessities at the bottom inevitably work their way up, as people compete for a good that’s limited in the short run, and in the long run in Cali and NYC. Now maybe something else interferes, like my renters’ friends all moving to trailer parks, so the stigma goes away. See Georgism for details.

    Maybe the increases in rents at the bottom are just the result of importing a ton of people who can’t produce much wealth, because they aren’t very smart? But we export heavily towards the top of non-verbally oriented jobs. By verbally, I mean where a foreign accent hurts your income. Computer programming requires verbal ability, but it customers cannot hear the programmers talk.

    Maybe private equity and hedge funds(?) buying lots of rental properties was inevitable with the IT revolution? It makes monitoring and price-differentiating very heterogeneous goods much easier. They also have advantages with service providers. A company that own 3 million homes can probably push insurance companies around. They may own enough that large numbers makes insurance unprofitable. The home itself can aid in monitoring the tenant to see if he’s trashing the place.

    Maybe nothing’s changed in real estate, and they are buying against inflation, and will sell again after American Nazis put the kibosh on hyperinflation?

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Rob

    Nobody who rents really wants to deal with big real estate companies who only want their money and jack up rents to the maximum possible each year. That is even more true if you are lower income. Little landlords are a big part of rental real estate. That was changing already for single family houses due to bulk purchasing of foreclosed houses during the Great Recession that stayed rentals.

    Driving out the little guys who were flexible, cared about their properties and often knew their tenants by name will end up being one of the longest lasting and most negative social and economic costs of COVID-19. And the irony is that the state and local governments have had tens of billions of dollars sitting around in unspent rent relief for months. They have not forced their contracting agencies to get that money out into the landlords' hands. I myself saw the danger to future renters and current landlords months ago.

    This was an issue that Republicans and Democrats could have gotten together on. Instead both parties dropped the ball. Everybody ignored the screaming landlords. Real estate was a way for these little guys to diversify their investment. That will make people that much more reliant on the stock market for their retirement. That is not good either. We cannot imagine a bear market because we haven't had one for years but we could again.

  100. William Buckley, reviewing “Camp of the Saints,” put his finger on the problem: “Will you shoot them? Will you starve them.” Of course, the questions answer themselves. This was why a wall was needed. Trump, correct as usual.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  101. The Haitians just can’t wait to experience structural systemic racism and ebil white supremacy!!

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The Haitians just can’t wait to experience structural systemic racism and ebil white supremacy!!

    They want in our racist country and if we say no then that's proof of racism.

    If we let them in and they don't equal Whites in all outcomes then that's proof of racism.

  102. @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    Well, legacy of colonialism/ legacy of slavery covers most of them. In the case of Ethiopia, which is the only black country that was never colonized, it's a legacy of the invasion by the Italian fascists. I think that covers all of them.

    Replies: @BB

    Ethiopia and also Eritrea don’t blame anything on the Italians. All in all they have a great deal of self respect in those countries. They don’t whine.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @BB

    Ethiopia and also Eritrea don’t blame anything on the Italians. All in all they have a great deal of self respect in those countries. They don’t whine.

    The WHO leader is Ethiopian and uses the Blame Whitey excuse all the time.

    Anyways the Italians were only there a few years. It was really just a short military occupation and not colonialism.

    Replies: @Jack D

  103. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Why do people keep pretending there isn't an anti-White agenda?

    This is too specific; letting in hordes of non-Whites to be part of our polity while banning anyone from even covering it. This is combined with government programs of forced integration targeting White communities and spaces.

    I think UN Resolution 260 has something to say about this.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

    “Why do people keep pretending there isn’t an anti-White agenda?”

    Scientists have the solution.

    https://www.insidescience.org/news/scientists-invent-whitest-white-paint

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Corvinus

    So the destruction of a people is the punchline of a joke for you. Gotcha.

    Thanks for revealing your lack of a moral compass.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  104. @Jack D
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years.
     
    There's a Woke explanation for this. After the loss of Haiti, the French government forced the Haitian government to pay the former white landowners of Haiti compensation for the property that had been taken from them starting in 1825. These payments (so the story goes) caused Haiti to be impoverished. If they hadn't been made, Haiti would be Wakanda by now.

    So you see it IS the white people's fault. It's ALWAYS the white people's fault (see redlining). If you haven't found a way to blame white people for black dysfunction, it just means that you haven't dug down deep enough for the real root causes, so keep digging.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Corvinus, @Gabe Ruth, @Jonathan Mason

    “So you see it IS the white people’s fault. It’s ALWAYS the white people’s fault (see redlining).“

    You mean it’s the fault of white elitists and Jews. Get it straight next time instead of protecting your tribe.

  105. Do they have vaccine passports?

  106. If it was a Republican administration, the other news outlets would fly the drones and dare the US government to stop them. Fox News uses the FAA statement as an excuse to limit their coverage.

    This is always the conservative way. They’re the “can’t do” party. They’re always outraged but fail to push back with any level of effort. I mean how else do we end up paying for sexual reassignment surgeries in the military? Either the Republicans want this to happen, or they are totally ineffectual. Voting Republican is a waste of time.

  107. People do not have even a rough understanding of how bad this is.

    These people and their descendants–baring some sort of CRISPR bailout–will be costing, costing, costing, costing us and our posterity down through the eons.

    I would bet that the present discounted value–i.e. cost–of each of these immigrants is well north of a million dollars.

    Just the savings from avoid one day’s border bum rush of Haitians would be sufficient to pay for the Wall. (Certainly a few days.) Crappy human beings are ridiculously expensive in a modern society.

  108. The Haitian immigrants will be in bloody house to house battles with the Afghani immigrants across major US cities. The native blacks will form alliances with the Somali gangs. Central American and Mexican immigrants will align with MS-13 crews.

    After expelling all white members of the US military who were found to be not gay, President Harris will begin arming the Haitian, Somali and black factions with humvees, tanks, and small tactical nuclear weapons.

    Israel will offer asylum to white Americans, only to sink, in USS Liberty style attacks, each of the freighters filled with these white refugees.

    That’s the way I see this progressing. And I’m generally a pretty optimistic guy.

  109. @Achmed E. Newman
    Holy crap, things are just accelerating in the direction of worse, for about every political issue I can think of. I wanted to have more time to make more plans. Now, you know what that graph a few days ago was about, although the Global Climate Disruption™ excuse was mighty stupid. Perhaps people just wanted to answer the question as to whether the world is ending in the affirmative, that silliness aside.

    As far as the TFR for the drones (usually for manned aircraft too), I looked and this is indeed suspicious. Many TFRs are set up for locations, such as where there are fire-fighting operations going on, in which more aircraft flying through would be a serious safety hazard. This one says "SECURITY" though. It goes up to 1,000 ft agl, and is only for unmanned aircraft. That means the Fox News guys ought to be able to get someone to fly them around in a high-wing Cessna over 1,000 ft and do whatever they want ... right up to the Mexican border, that is.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @mc23

    Fox should just fly their drone into Mexican airspace. They can always ask for Asylum.

  110. @Jack D
    If I were Fox, I would keep flying the drones in defiance of the ban. They can well afford the fines and the resulting publicity would be well worth it.

    It will end up having a Streisand Effect - by trying to hush this up, they have only brought more attention upon themselves. The pictures of the thousands of people under the bridge are already out there and aren't going away and preventing the taking of more pictures of the same isn't going to make the already bad optics even worse (nor is the NYTimes going to print the new pictures any more than the old ones, which is to say, not at all).

    Replies: @Rob, @Joe Stalin, @JMcG

    If I were Fox, I would keep flying the drones in defiance of the ban. They can well afford the fines and the resulting publicity would be well worth it.

    Well, since they made a movie about how great the elite media was in publishing the Pentagon papers in defiance of The White House, maybe Fox should tell people with drones that they will pay money for airing new drone footage that people take.

  111. @Dieter Kief
    Relatetd - from ID's most important books list


    Abdelhady, Dalia, Nina Gren, and Martin Joormann, eds. 2020.
    Refugees and theViolence of Welfare Bureaucracies in Northern Europe
    . Manchester UniversityPress

    Replies: @Dan Kurt

    RE: “from ID’s…” Dieter Kief

    How lazy can you get? Who or what is ID. Spell out the words.

    Dan Kurt

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Dan Kurt

    https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/3a8qww/new-book-releases-2020-reading-list

    How about htis title - doesn't that sound a lot like Tom Wolfe's ideas in Radical Chic - Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers

    (Btw. - did Wolfe here give a nod to the Catcher in the Rye - or is this over sensitive?

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Dan Kurt

    https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/3a8qww/new-book-releases-2020-reading-list

    How about this title - doesn't that sound a lot like Tom Wolfe's ideas in Radical Chic - Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers

    (Btw. - did Wolfe here give a nod to the Catcher in the Rye - or is this over sensitive?

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Dan Kurt

    https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/3a8qww/new-book-releases-2020-reading-list

    How about this title - doesn't that sound a lot like Tom Wolfe's ideas in Radical Chic - Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers

    (Btw. - did Wolfe here give a nod to the Catcher in the Rye - or is this idea over sensitive?

  112. @Rob
    @notsaying

    I saw a piece John Oliver did on Last Week Tonight, the only place that does in depth research, these days, sadly. It was about investors, like private equity, maybe hedge funds, too, buying up trailer parks from their then-current owners, who are usually sole proprietors, and jacking up rents.

    That was bad news for the rest of us, in the long run, but we did not care, because we don’t live in trailer parks. It mattered for everyone because the lower end of the apartment market competes with trailer parks. I’m sure lots of people prefer trailers to slum apartments, but trailer parks have a certain stigma over and above living in a bad area of the white part of town. Pretty sure I’d rather live in a trailer than a small (or large) apartment in the black part of town, where rents are likely comparable, though I have not checked. The alternative to a trailer is living in your car, and it’s hard to have a normal life when you do that.

    Consider the trailer as the margin of cultivation. Let’s say trailer lots cost $100 bucks a month and people with $500/month income value not living in a trailer at 100 bucks. I can only rent my slummy apartments out for $200, cuz I raise prices over that, and my clientele moves to the trailer park. If the trailer park costs 200, then I can raise my rent to 300 before people head to the trailers. Rising prices of necessities at the bottom inevitably work their way up, as people compete for a good that’s limited in the short run, and in the long run in Cali and NYC. Now maybe something else interferes, like my renters’ friends all moving to trailer parks, so the stigma goes away. See Georgism for details.

    Maybe the increases in rents at the bottom are just the result of importing a ton of people who can’t produce much wealth, because they aren’t very smart? But we export heavily towards the top of non-verbally oriented jobs. By verbally, I mean where a foreign accent hurts your income. Computer programming requires verbal ability, but it customers cannot hear the programmers talk.

    Maybe private equity and hedge funds(?) buying lots of rental properties was inevitable with the IT revolution? It makes monitoring and price-differentiating very heterogeneous goods much easier. They also have advantages with service providers. A company that own 3 million homes can probably push insurance companies around. They may own enough that large numbers makes insurance unprofitable. The home itself can aid in monitoring the tenant to see if he’s trashing the place.

    Maybe nothing’s changed in real estate, and they are buying against inflation, and will sell again after American Nazis put the kibosh on hyperinflation?

    Replies: @notsaying

    Nobody who rents really wants to deal with big real estate companies who only want their money and jack up rents to the maximum possible each year. That is even more true if you are lower income. Little landlords are a big part of rental real estate. That was changing already for single family houses due to bulk purchasing of foreclosed houses during the Great Recession that stayed rentals.

    Driving out the little guys who were flexible, cared about their properties and often knew their tenants by name will end up being one of the longest lasting and most negative social and economic costs of COVID-19. And the irony is that the state and local governments have had tens of billions of dollars sitting around in unspent rent relief for months. They have not forced their contracting agencies to get that money out into the landlords’ hands. I myself saw the danger to future renters and current landlords months ago.

    This was an issue that Republicans and Democrats could have gotten together on. Instead both parties dropped the ball. Everybody ignored the screaming landlords. Real estate was a way for these little guys to diversify their investment. That will make people that much more reliant on the stock market for their retirement. That is not good either. We cannot imagine a bear market because we haven’t had one for years but we could again.

  113. @BB
    @Jack D

    Ethiopia and also Eritrea don’t blame anything on the Italians. All in all they have a great deal of self respect in those countries. They don’t whine.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Ethiopia and also Eritrea don’t blame anything on the Italians. All in all they have a great deal of self respect in those countries. They don’t whine.

    The WHO leader is Ethiopian and uses the Blame Whitey excuse all the time.

    Anyways the Italians were only there a few years. It was really just a short military occupation and not colonialism.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @John Johnson

    The Italians were there just long enough to give the locals a taste for espresso. It's very good and since they grow their own beans (and labor costs are low) it's very cheap, which is just as well because otherwise no one would be able to afford it (avg. per capita income of $850). Of course for people making $850/year, even 30 cents for a cup of coffee is out of reach but there is a middle class in the cities who can afford it.

    They also eat spaghetti but they have tailored it to Ethiopian tastes, with berbere and spiced butter so that it is almost unrecognizable as something Italian.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  114. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    The Haitians just can't wait to experience structural systemic racism and ebil white supremacy!!

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The Haitians just can’t wait to experience structural systemic racism and ebil white supremacy!!

    They want in our racist country and if we say no then that’s proof of racism.

    If we let them in and they don’t equal Whites in all outcomes then that’s proof of racism.

  115. @peterike
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor.

     

    Is it really? The fact is that Haiti is like Ukraine: a tiny group of people control all the wealth. In Ukraine they are nearly all Jews. In Haiti, only some of them are, like Gilbert Bigio, the wealthiest man in Haiti. So while Haitians are pretty useless overall, their nation is basically being sucked dry of whatever wealth it has by a small group of massive exploiters.

    Replies: @BB, @John Johnson, @JohnnyWalker123

    Is it really? The fact is that Haiti is like Ukraine

    HA oh man that is funny.

    Haiti is nothing like the Ukraine.

    Poor Haitians actually make mud cakes and eat them to fill their stomachs. Yes actual mud.

    Drinks are sold in zip lock bags.

    Most of their clothes are donated from the US.

    There are actually very few landmarks that were built by Haitians and not the French.

    But thanks for the laugh.

  116. @Sick 'n Tired
    @Wilkey

    Haitians are poor because they have absolutely ZERO common sense, are uneducated, and extremely superstitious. I have worked with many Haitians in S. Florida and in the Caribbean. They will pick all the unripe mangos off of a tree instead of taking only the ones that are ripe, then wonder why the there's no fruit. They will eat fish the size of minnows instead of throwing them back and letting them grow and reproduce, then wonder why there's no fish to catch. They cut down all the trees on the hillsides to make charcoal, then die in mudslides when it rains. If you're ever driving in the left lane (the fast lane) in Miami and there's a car doing 45mph, it's driven by a Haitian woman. They know how to have children they can't afford and commit insurance scams, I'll give them that.

    Replies: @Anon, @mc23

    And of course the Haitians will vote Democratic-

  117. @John Johnson
    @BB

    Ethiopia and also Eritrea don’t blame anything on the Italians. All in all they have a great deal of self respect in those countries. They don’t whine.

    The WHO leader is Ethiopian and uses the Blame Whitey excuse all the time.

    Anyways the Italians were only there a few years. It was really just a short military occupation and not colonialism.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The Italians were there just long enough to give the locals a taste for espresso. It’s very good and since they grow their own beans (and labor costs are low) it’s very cheap, which is just as well because otherwise no one would be able to afford it (avg. per capita income of \$850). Of course for people making \$850/year, even 30 cents for a cup of coffee is out of reach but there is a middle class in the cities who can afford it.

    They also eat spaghetti but they have tailored it to Ethiopian tastes, with berbere and spiced butter so that it is almost unrecognizable as something Italian.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    Of course for people making $850/year, even 30 cents for a cup of coffee is out of reach but there is a middle class in the cities who can afford it.
     
    Maybe not at a fancy shmancy Starbucks or clone, but at home? Anyone can make his own espresso.
  118. @BB
    @peterike

    Ukraine is not poor as the stats indicate. It is not third world, not even close. Look at the Purchasing Power there. Ukraine average salaries are low but the housing and food and land costs are also extremely low. Education is fine. It has good and free health care. The country is developed, with a good infrastructure. Its Human Development Index is high.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Incomes in Ukraine are very unequal (but not in the ridiculous anti-Semitic way that peterike paints – the Nazis and their Ukrainian collaborators killed maybe 90% of the Jewish population but apparently that’s not enough for old pete – he won’t be satisfied unless Ukraine is 100% Judenrein).

    Lviv is a reasonably modern city with clean graffiti free streets and nicely restored pre-WWI buildings housing banks and sidewalk beer gardens (they like beer a lot) and shops and restaurants and so on. You would not quite mistake it for Paris (or even Prague or Warsaw) but neither is it like the falling down slums of Port au Prince or Havana. The place is as neat as a pin. (No vibrant immigrants to litter – too poor for that). People work in these tourist oriented business or in offices, hospitals, universities, etc. – salaries are low by Western standards but so are living expenses.

    But if you go out to the countryside, people are still riding in horse drawn hay wagons (usually they have rubber tires because they have been improvised from a couple of old truck axles). If you are really lucky, you pile the hay on the roof of your pre- 1991 Zhiguli (Lada in the West), which gives the place a sort of Havana time warp feeling. A lot of older people live at a subsistence level where they eat whatever they can grow in their own gardens. Maybe they keep a cow (thus all that hay) and have milk and sour cream and cottage cheese to eat with their potatoes. They are largely outside the cash economy. Thus the average per capita GDP appears to be quite low because some people make essentially nothing in cash (although they are not starving).

    • Thanks: Escher
  119. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    Why do people keep pretending there isn’t an anti-White agenda?

     

    It's been there from the beginning-- 1619. Even 1614, if you count miscegenation. Some folks pretend that wasn't anti-white.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    So you agree there is an ongoing anti-White agenda.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    It's my own personal 1619 project. 1808 was the start of immigration control.

  120. @Corvinus
    @RichardTaylor

    “Why do people keep pretending there isn’t an anti-White agenda?”

    Scientists have the solution.

    https://www.insidescience.org/news/scientists-invent-whitest-white-paint

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    So the destruction of a people is the punchline of a joke for you. Gotcha.

    Thanks for revealing your lack of a moral compass.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @RichardTaylor

    "So the destruction of a people is the punchline of a joke for you. Gotcha. Thanks for revealing your lack of a moral compass."

    No one is being destroyed. It's all in your head. But, for the sake of argument, why don't you exactly clarify what is "pro-white" and "anti-white". Give specific examples. Furthermore, must every white person abide by your criteria? Why?

  121. @Dan Kurt
    @Dieter Kief

    RE: "from ID’s..." Dieter Kief

    How lazy can you get? Who or what is ID. Spell out the words.

    Dan Kurt

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief

    https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/3a8qww/new-book-releases-2020-reading-list

    How about htis title – doesn’t that sound a lot like Tom Wolfe’s ideas in Radical Chic – Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers

    (Btw. – did Wolfe here give a nod to the Catcher in the Rye – or is this over sensitive?

  122. @Dan Kurt
    @Dieter Kief

    RE: "from ID’s..." Dieter Kief

    How lazy can you get? Who or what is ID. Spell out the words.

    Dan Kurt

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief

    https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/3a8qww/new-book-releases-2020-reading-list

    How about this title – doesn’t that sound a lot like Tom Wolfe’s ideas in Radical Chic – Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers

    (Btw. – did Wolfe here give a nod to the Catcher in the Rye – or is this over sensitive?

  123. @Dan Kurt
    @Dieter Kief

    RE: "from ID’s..." Dieter Kief

    How lazy can you get? Who or what is ID. Spell out the words.

    Dan Kurt

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief, @Dieter Kief

    https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/3a8qww/new-book-releases-2020-reading-list

    How about this title – doesn’t that sound a lot like Tom Wolfe’s ideas in Radical Chic – Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers

    (Btw. – did Wolfe here give a nod to the Catcher in the Rye – or is this idea over sensitive?

  124. @peterike
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor.

     

    Is it really? The fact is that Haiti is like Ukraine: a tiny group of people control all the wealth. In Ukraine they are nearly all Jews. In Haiti, only some of them are, like Gilbert Bigio, the wealthiest man in Haiti. So while Haitians are pretty useless overall, their nation is basically being sucked dry of whatever wealth it has by a small group of massive exploiters.

    Replies: @BB, @John Johnson, @JohnnyWalker123

    Levantine Christians own Haiti.

  125. @RichardTaylor
    @Corvinus

    So the destruction of a people is the punchline of a joke for you. Gotcha.

    Thanks for revealing your lack of a moral compass.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “So the destruction of a people is the punchline of a joke for you. Gotcha. Thanks for revealing your lack of a moral compass.”

    No one is being destroyed. It’s all in your head. But, for the sake of argument, why don’t you exactly clarify what is “pro-white” and “anti-white”. Give specific examples. Furthermore, must every white person abide by your criteria? Why?

  126. @Jack D
    @John Johnson

    The Italians were there just long enough to give the locals a taste for espresso. It's very good and since they grow their own beans (and labor costs are low) it's very cheap, which is just as well because otherwise no one would be able to afford it (avg. per capita income of $850). Of course for people making $850/year, even 30 cents for a cup of coffee is out of reach but there is a middle class in the cities who can afford it.

    They also eat spaghetti but they have tailored it to Ethiopian tastes, with berbere and spiced butter so that it is almost unrecognizable as something Italian.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    Of course for people making \$850/year, even 30 cents for a cup of coffee is out of reach but there is a middle class in the cities who can afford it.

    Maybe not at a fancy shmancy Starbucks or clone, but at home? Anyone can make his own espresso.

  127. @Jack D
    If I were Fox, I would keep flying the drones in defiance of the ban. They can well afford the fines and the resulting publicity would be well worth it.

    It will end up having a Streisand Effect - by trying to hush this up, they have only brought more attention upon themselves. The pictures of the thousands of people under the bridge are already out there and aren't going away and preventing the taking of more pictures of the same isn't going to make the already bad optics even worse (nor is the NYTimes going to print the new pictures any more than the old ones, which is to say, not at all).

    Replies: @Rob, @Joe Stalin, @JMcG

    After the FAA gets done with them, I’m sure the FCC would be happy to step in and yank their broadcasting license. We are no longer a nation of laws. Even I am shocked at how quickly we are transforming into a dictatorship. Never in my life would I have believed that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs would act in the manner of that scumbag Milley.

  128. @notsaying
    @Wilkey

    Here is something I will never forget. There was a newspaper article about people from an area church who went down to Haiti to help at an orphanage. One of them described how the new children will turn away from others at mealtime and protect their food. It is a big deal to get the children to sit normally at the dinner table and to stop guarding their food.

    Here is an interesting tidbit from Wikipedia light of the current immigration surge. I wonder how many of the Haitian women in Texas are pregnant?

    "While limited, evidence suggests that natural and man-made disasters can cause human populations to increase in the long term, rather than decrease. The Khmer Rouge conflict and 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami were followed by documented fertility spikes; potential causes may include reduced access to contraception and families desiring more children following child death. In Haiti's case, the fertility rate nearly tripled after the 2010 Haiti earthquake and is likely to remain above pre-quake levels for many years."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Haiti

    Replies: @bomag, @bingobongo, @Swamp Fox

    Bumper sticker in Port au Prince post 2010 earthquake: “If This Mud Hut Is Rockin’, Don’t Come Aknockin’!”

  129. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    So you agree there is an ongoing anti-White agenda.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It’s my own personal 1619 project. 1808 was the start of immigration control.

  130. @Ron Mexico
    @Trelane

    Alma, MI city council just voted to use abandoned nursing home to house migrant kids aged 12-18. Last Spring, Albion, MI accepts migrant kids at the not full capacity Starr Commonwealth residential school.

    Clemens meat packing plant in Coldwater, MI now employing dozens of Haitian workers and housing them in recently built section 8 apartments near Home Depot and Wal-Mart.

    Just a snapshot.

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Reg Cæsar

    Clemens meat packing plant in Coldwater, MI now employing dozens of Haitian workers and housing them in recently built section 8 apartments near Home Depot and Wal-Mart.

    On a recent visit to Barron, Wisc., pop. ca. 3,500 and hours from any big city, I noticed a sign for the Islamic center. What the heck is an Islamic center doing there?

    Then I saw the Jennie-O turkey plant. It all made sense.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Reg Cæsar

    Some people wanted to tell me that the Clemens Pork plant would employ lotsa white folks from the county, especially since our largest minority, Yemeni, can't work there. I pointed to Iowa and said be ready for Honduras to show up. I was wrong. I honestly think Trump was effective in stopping that. But white folks weren't taking the jobs (Wal-Mart Distribution starts at 22.50/hr and now $5000 bonus), so we've got all these Haitians showing up. The lazy white people have been "bought off" by the 10 new Pot Shops in the county and the ridiculous Covid public assistance $$$.

  131. @Rob
    @Wilkey

    People always talk about how poor Haiti is, but it’s pretty high income for an African country.

    I said that at the Amptoons blog, and got the response, “why should we compare it to to African countries?”

    Me: find a picture of Haitians. Look at it, then think very, very hard.

    Haiti will be the first country to have a complete and total meltdown. Maybe it happened in near prehistoric states in the middle east way back when. But the Haitians have been stripping the forests for charcoal, and they are almost out of Forrest. Planting trees is white supremacy, so what can they do? Ever since gay for pay sex tourism became difficult due to the HIV situation, Haiti has struggled mightily to get a new source of hard currency.

    I knew a girl whose boyfriend was Haitian. He was part of the elite. I met him, and was like, “you're whit? How did that happen?” Turns out there are white Haitians, descended from whites who were of some use, and were not slaughtered. For mysterious reasons, they are at the economic top of Haiti, though they do not exercise direct political power.

    I would be scared to be a white Haitian, but taxes are low, servants are cheap, the climate is pleasant, snd they are rich, so they can afford ipads and satellite tv. They are around 2% of the population, and have about 1/2 the countries income, so roughly $2000*.5 = 1000/0.02 = 1000*50 = 59k/year pc income, but everything except imports is cheap. Climate’s nice, too.

    You gotta feel sorry for capitalists and landlords in the third world, having to exploit such low-quality human cattle, when capitalists in the first world live off such healthy herds. Life ain't fair, yo.

    Chances are, if an eat the rich sentiment spread through Haiti, they’d be able to fly to America on private planes, and from America to France or perhaps to become the elite of some other third world nation, like ours.

    Expect a years-long media campaign about how we’re at fault for Haiti’s situation. We did occupy Haiti for a stretch, so that’s probably why they’re messed up, right? I mean, it could not have anything to do with the people.

    I honestly do kinda blame christo-cons, though. The third world needs birth control for the masses. The elite has it. If Haiti had 1000 Dutch people/square mile, it would be wealthy, but it has Haitians so it’s over-populated. Birth control could at least prevent a die-back or worse, emigration to America.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Wilkey, @Gabe Ruth

    At least when WN incels rant about how Jews are responsible for their plight, they are identifying a group with some clout, and they get plenty of pilpul pushback from the Hasbara brigade.

    But fedoras and their sympathizers presume this stranglehold that the pope or fundamentalists have over the reproductive choices of third world masses, and no one skips a beat. One starts to suspect there is a subconscious desire to join the strong horse in bashing a fashionable (and powerless) scapegoat.

    I appreciate your generally thoughtful comments though, diversity of thought is the only kind diversity that actually has any of the benefits frequently claimed by our rulers, and you bring some here.

  132. @Jack D
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years.
     
    There's a Woke explanation for this. After the loss of Haiti, the French government forced the Haitian government to pay the former white landowners of Haiti compensation for the property that had been taken from them starting in 1825. These payments (so the story goes) caused Haiti to be impoverished. If they hadn't been made, Haiti would be Wakanda by now.

    So you see it IS the white people's fault. It's ALWAYS the white people's fault (see redlining). If you haven't found a way to blame white people for black dysfunction, it just means that you haven't dug down deep enough for the real root causes, so keep digging.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Corvinus, @Gabe Ruth, @Jonathan Mason

    I believe there are other factors, but it doesn’t seem crazy to think French extortion (repayment continued until 1947) played a significant part in Haiti’s trajectory, especially next to 1619 claims about why this country isn’t Haiti.

  133. This is the battle.

    The fifth columnists attacking us, bringing in their reinforcements–with our money!

    This is the battle.

    Republicans should be focused on Biden’s border betrayal–attack on America–and its affect on jobs, wages, housing, schools, traffic, crime, taxes, the environment. Destroying the future for Americans, our children, grandchildren, posterity … well after Biden’s long gone, to the end of time.

    They should be banging the drum on this relentlessly. Draft articles of impeachment. Never stop talking about it. Be like a dog with a bone.

  134. @Tono Bungay
    I hate to say this, but from my experience in France I think Haitians are far from the worst people we could be letting in. I voted for Trump, in large part because he was at least somewhat anti-immigration (in line with Ann Coulter), and I'd vote for a 20-year moratorium, but my rough estimate of problematic-ness puts Haitians way below Somalis, Afghans and Pakistanis, for instance.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Menschmaschine

    This is because usually you need at least some intelligence to find a way to make it over the Atlantic, so the Haitians you find in France are somewhat selected. The same principle of course is valid in reverse – Muslims in the USA tend to be higher class than those in Europe.

  135. @Jack D
    @Wilkey


    Not sure why Haiti is so poor. Its people have never been oppressed by the legacy of Jim Crow, and haven’t been slaves in over 200 years.
     
    There's a Woke explanation for this. After the loss of Haiti, the French government forced the Haitian government to pay the former white landowners of Haiti compensation for the property that had been taken from them starting in 1825. These payments (so the story goes) caused Haiti to be impoverished. If they hadn't been made, Haiti would be Wakanda by now.

    So you see it IS the white people's fault. It's ALWAYS the white people's fault (see redlining). If you haven't found a way to blame white people for black dysfunction, it just means that you haven't dug down deep enough for the real root causes, so keep digging.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Corvinus, @Gabe Ruth, @Jonathan Mason

    This is partly true but there are a number of other factors.

    Haiti was once the wealthiest colony in the world and its exports of coffee, sugar, rum, tobacco and so on made a vast contribution to the French economy.

    However after the revolution the generals of the revolution took over most of the land for themselves and their families, and the ruling elite in Haiti, which comprised a small part of the population is comprised of the descendants of those generals.

    Haiti is largely mountainous and a lot of the land is lacking in economic value. Originally heavily forested, most of the trees were cut down to send expensive mahogany as tribute to the French for reparations, and with ensuing soil erosion, plus the burning of a lot of wood for cooking and heating, as Haiti had no other source of fuel, did immense long-term damage.

    As the second revolutionary state in the Americas, Haiti did not get a lot of help from the other revolutionary state, which was terrified because of its own slavery problem.

    In the twentieth century the US occupied Haiti for 20 years, and even since has continued to economically support corrupt governments in Haiti who will be favorable to American interests. For example the lives of impoverished shareholders of American rice-growing corporations have been given priority over the lives of impoverished Haitian rice farmers which has tended to drive farmers off the land and into the cities where there are not enough jobs.

    The fact that Haiti is still economically worse off than Cuba after getting all this help from the US certainly gives ground for thought. Perhaps if the US had sent enough aid to Cuba, the revolution would have imploded.

    So there you have it. Haiti today has not much tourism, not much natural resources, and is completely lacking in modern infrastructure other than cell phone networks mostly run by Digicel, a cell phone company owned by an Irishman and registered in Bermuda, which sucks a lot of money out of Haiti.

    To make matters worse, the education system in Haiti is terrible. Only about 22% of children go to school after the age of 11.

    Oh, and there is a lot of crime and some of the people are so stupid that they would rather die of Covid-19 and leave their children as orphans than get free vaccinations. Can you believe it?

  136. @Trelane
    This year migrant crisis. Next year, housing crisis.

    We don't have millions of spare housing units lying around.

    In fact there's a shortage.

    Where are we going to house the vibrants?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @notsaying, @Alden

    The migrant scum will be housed in section 8 the projects, welfare motels and other government housing. They will get low income winter heating bills while Americans with decent middle class incomes have the thermostat turned to 55.

    There will be more and more American homeless. That’s all.

  137. @Hypnotoad666
    @Wilkey

    The Dominicans look down on Haitians. ''Nuff said.

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

    The Dominicans look down on Haitians. ”Nuff said.

    The border between the two is a low barbed-wire fence. On one side of the fence, it looks like a typical tropical island; palm trees and small brightly colored buildings. The other side of the fence is stripped of trees and covered with trash. I was disgusted when I saw it.

  138. @Reg Cæsar
    @Ron Mexico


    Clemens meat packing plant in Coldwater, MI now employing dozens of Haitian workers and housing them in recently built section 8 apartments near Home Depot and Wal-Mart.
     
    On a recent visit to Barron, Wisc., pop. ca. 3,500 and hours from any big city, I noticed a sign for the Islamic center. What the heck is an Islamic center doing there?

    Then I saw the Jennie-O turkey plant. It all made sense.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Some people wanted to tell me that the Clemens Pork plant would employ lotsa white folks from the county, especially since our largest minority, Yemeni, can’t work there. I pointed to Iowa and said be ready for Honduras to show up. I was wrong. I honestly think Trump was effective in stopping that. But white folks weren’t taking the jobs (Wal-Mart Distribution starts at 22.50/hr and now \$5000 bonus), so we’ve got all these Haitians showing up. The lazy white people have been “bought off” by the 10 new Pot Shops in the county and the ridiculous Covid public assistance \$\$\$.

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