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From The Guardian:

Why Hillary Clinton was right about white women – and their husbands

Conventional wisdom says women will show solidarity at the polls. But new research shows that for white women, having a husband trumped the sisterhood

Lucia Graves

Monday 25 September 2017

… Given the opportunity to make history by electing the first female president, women didn’t take it. And ironically, the women who bore the most resemblance to Clinton – white, heterosexual and married – were less likely to vote for her.

Many had expected Clinton to rally women, the same way Barack Obama rallied black voters in 2008 – and if she had, she would have handily trumped Donald Trump. But while Obama won 95% of the black vote, Clinton won just 54% of women – a percentage point less than her male predecessor atop the Democratic ticket. Among white women in particular, she fared even worse: a slim majority voted for Trump.

Last week, Clinton, who has had a lifetime to contemplate the women’s vote, copped to having a theory. “[Women] will be under tremendous pressure – and I’m talking principally about white women. They will be under tremendous pressure from fathers and husbands and boyfriends and male employers not to vote for ‘the girl’,” she said in an interview as part of a tour promoting her new memoir of the 2016 campaign.

If women didn’t have any male loved ones, then Hillary would be President.

… But social science backs up Clinton’s anecdotal hunch. “We think she was right in her analysis about women getting pressure from men in their lives, specifically [straight] white women,” said Kelsy Kretschmer, an assistant professor at Oregon State University and a co-author of a recent study examining women’s voting patterns.

“We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”

The key distinction, according to Kretschmer’s research, is that single women tend to cast votes with the fate of all women in mind, while women married to men vote on behalf of their husbands and families …

Something needs to be done about the existence of heterosexual reproduction. If only women didn’t have any husbands, sons, grandsons, fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, and nephews, then Hillary would be President.

It’s time for some brainstorming: test-tube babies, cloning, Planet of the Women? C’mon, people, Hillary needs some new disruptive ideas.

That could help explain why, despite the fact that the Democratic party is generally considered to have policies more favorable to women, Republicans have traditionally won the votes of married women.

“Just being married makes women more conservative in their vote choice,” said Kretschmer. …

In fact, since men are the primary breadwinners in the vast majority of American families, their wives may well see equality-focused measures as setting their husbands – and therefore their family – back.

“Some married women perceive advances for women, such as lawsuits to mitigate pay discrimination, as coming at the expense of their male partners,” the authors continue. …

A college-educated woman identifying as a liberal Democrat confided to Kretschmer – not wanting to be identified, as a Trump voter – that she had voted for him over Clinton because her husband’s job depends on the coal industry; she saw Trump as the candidate that would protect it, and by extension her family’s economic interests. Kretschmer called her story “the clearest, most heartbreaking validation of our article that I had ever heard”.

Yet the conventional wisdom going into the election, as one Atlantic story summed it up at the time, was that “the 2016 race has turned the battle of the sexes into an all-out war”: Trump and Clinton had divided not just men and women, according to the narrative, but expressly “men and women who are married to each other”. Or so readers were told. …

If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, then Hillary would be President.

Is a lifetime of loveless loneliness too much to ask to make Hillary President? Isn’t dying alone worth it if it would make Hillary President?

 
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  1. Concentric loyalties: family edition?

    • Agree: bomag
  2. So, we are to think that it’s great that practically all blacks vote on the basis of race, and terrible that some females don’t vote on the basis of sex.

    White married women are more likely to think critically and not vote for a candidate just because she has a vagina. It’s that simple.

    • Replies: @sabril

    White married women are more likely to think critically and not vote for a candidate just because she has a vagina.
     
    I think they tend to vote more conservatively because they are concerned about their husbands' well-being, even if only for selfish reasons. I am married and my liberal wife becomes more conservative each year when she signs our tax returns.
    , @bomag

    So, we are to think that it’s great that practically all blacks vote on the basis of race, and terrible that some females don’t vote on the basis of sex.
     
    This is the monomania of the political left: they want 100%. They'll flog and marginalize the 46% of women who don't get it; then they'll move on to the next group. The 5% of Blacks who didn't vote for Obama?: "First, they came for the women..."
    , @Brutusale
    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.

    It's an important dichotomy.
    , @Olorin
    Astonishing to have them outright admit they believe marriage means white women get all their ideas from their menfolk.

    Also to have them admit their belief that a brain can't function with a married vagina at the other end of the spinal column. They truly out-Victoria the Victorians.

    Hillary Rodham's bitter struggle against and compulsive reliving of the reality of November clearly has underpinnings in narcissism and habits of resentment, blame, and lust for power.

    But I see another aspect to it.

    Imagine her torment to realize that she sold her soul over half a century to demons for power, money, and fame...

    ...in pursuit of her uber-goal, the one thing that would make the winding twisting dark path worthwhile...

    ...the thing that drove her on like a thousand whips...

    ...only to be thwarted...

    ...by white women who have the one thing she truly wanted more than all that:

    A marriage.

    IME those women voters (like the love of my life) recognize someone hostile to themselves and their loved ones.

    It's not just or mostly economic. There is a female instinct in these things, deep in its perceptions, canny in its conclusions. Mencken wrote about it. LomL described Hillary back in 2006 or 7 as "akin to long-curdled milk."

  3. If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, then Hillary would be President.

    But according to our uh good friend Whiskey, every woman in America will soon be coming home to a sexy, sexy black man. And watch out, once sub-Saharan Africa spews its 21st century population explosion across the rest of the world, we’ll soon all be caramel like former president Barack Obama. I mean just look at how uh African dudes are already cleaning up in Europe. Can you imagine if there were another 50-100 million of them there?

    It’s sexy, sexy black men all the way down…

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    Work part time as a delivery driver on what use to be just a couple of decades ago the whitopia of southside Indianapolis.

    Can not tell you the number of downwardly mobile tattooed white women I see with black men. Really sad.

    Lots of white women as they get older will take on a black partner to escape loneliness.

    If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, (((and a Hitachi Magic Wand))) then Hillary would be President.
     
    No I am not kidding. Just as high speed internet and the appearance of Tube site porn is causing mass erectile dysfunction among young males...

    http://fightthenewdrug.org/your-brain-on-porn-gary-wilsons-porn-fighting-ba-website-working/

    High tech vibrators are making it harder for women to orgasm via masturbation, oral sex and intercourse with a partner. There are also a growing number of young women also becoming addicted to porn.

    That is why there is rapidly growing "NOFAP" movement on the internet. And the hardline the Alt-Right is taking against internet porn is attracting lots of young people sick of what degeneracy is doing to their lives.

    Recently James Hetfield of Metallica has gotten involved in an anti-porn documentary

    https://www.traileraddict.com/article/anti-porn-documentary-narrated-metallicas-james-hetfield/
    , @bomag
    Rather low-brow trolling there, Yan.

    To more accurately reflect Whiskey's sentiments: every woman in America will soon be waiting at home for a sexy alpha male who never shows up. It is Monica Lewinskys all the way down.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    But according to our uh good friend Whiskey...
     
    I don't recall seeing him here in awhile. Did he finally find a girl?

    On the other hand, I've been away much due to family pressures, too. So maybe our ships have passed in the night.
  4. Men are terrible and will hurt you because this is Lifetime.

  5. Another rediscovery of the Sailer “marriage gap.” Kudos to Steve’s insights!!

    • Agree: San Fernando Curt, NickG
  6. Funny! But sadly, this really is unwittingly their point. Been reading Heartiste?

  7. heartbreaking validation

    If only there had been re-education camps for women, all of this emotional labor could have been avoided.

  8. Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.

    So for the bottom tier, this is correct.

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don’t become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don’t become WN ne’er do wells.

    • Troll: AndrewR
    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    You're virtue-signaling, dude. Get a grip.
    , @Anonym

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don’t become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don’t become WN ne’er do wells.
     
    Most of the people on this site are pretty articulate, this is not exactly low brow reading. Stating that WNs are exclusive to the bottom 10% of society is how you might like it to be, not how it is.

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin, and certainly that would be higher among the men. Certainly the margin among white voters without college degrees was 39 points, but it's wrong to say the white intelligentsia are all race blind or self-hating.
    , @neutral
    White flight happens pretty much at all levels of white income levels (and ideology levels), white flight is just a more polite manifestation of white nationalism. Would you like to live somewhere that was 90% non white, and please don't give me the stock standard "I have such wonderful (insert random non white group here) neighbours", I asked if you would want to live in a 90% non white area.
    , @Ragno
    My goodness gosh! It is Thomm, the Hindoo Avenger, come once again to mock his betters.

    Next time you feel compelled to take a Jeet in public - try a nice thick steak instead, Thomm.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.
     
    This is as ignorant as anything else that has issued forth from your idiot yap. You routinely pull made up numbers out of your ass (head - same thing, in your case). How much math have you ever studied? Why not tell us?
    , @Lurker
    Troll.
  9. Last week, Clinton, who has had a lifetime to contemplate the women’s vote, copped to having a theory.

    I’ll cop to having a theory. Women who shamelessly endeavour to ride their husbands’ coattails into power tend not to garner a lot of respect, particularly when they demonstrate a consistent record of mediocrity-to-failure in every post ever handed to them on the basis of their last name.

    • Agree: CK
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    ...a consistent record of mediocrity-to-failure...
     
    Hillary was a really good defense lawyer, if you happened to be a child rapist:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says

  10. • Replies: @wren
    Welcome to Costco Hillary, I love you.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    I was quite impressed that Hillary would go to Deplorableville to sign books. One of her wonks must have suggested that touring nothing but big city malls and whitopian artisan bookshops was bad optics.

    Someone on twitter cruelly juxtaposed that snap with one of the President at the Oval Office desk.

    "If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, then Hillary would be President."

    Please, someone, post that in the Guardian comments and see how long it lasts.

    , @fish

    Failed U.S. Oligarch Hillary Clinton is reduced to hectoring cripples and freaks, while hawking her books at low-rent "dime store" Costco.

     

    So now I have to go to a spoof of a fake news site to get accurate headlines?!
  11. It looks like the Suffragettes should have asked for votes for women only. 🙂

    • Replies: @guest
    You mean bitter, single, preferably misanthropic women only.

    Regular women might vote how hot dudes tell them to.
  12. Perhaps Hillary should come out in support of a new entitlement program: an income supplement for the purchase of boxed wine, chocolate, cat food, Hulu subscriptions,……….and Kleenex.

  13. If Huma didn’t have such a sleazy husband, Hillary could be president right now…

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    Bullshit, she's ( HC) just as sleazy as he is.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and Pro Jaz artist
    , @Neuday

    If Huma didn’t have such a sleazy husband, Hillary could be president right now…
     
    Without the sympathy garnered after the blue dress episode, Hillary would never have been a senatorial candidate. Her health care debacle certainly didn't launch her political careeer.

    If Hillary didn't have such a sleazy husband, she never would have run.
    , @MBlanc46
    That last-days revelation about Weiner sure didn't help her any.
  14. I almost felt hopeful reading that article because they almost totally came around to the isteve view of the family unit facing the world together, but just expressed in a different way. But then you know that the conclusion will be that the family unit must be annihilated in the name of female freedom. It’s funny too how the “feminists” so effortlessly assume that the male is dominant in the relationship.

    • Replies: @guest
    "It's funny too how the 'feminists' so effortlessly assume that the male is dominant in the relationship."

    Feminists make arguments in favor of the patriarchy all the time. For instance, with the Male Gaze and Rape Culture stuff. They're basically saying "Women are vulnerable and defenseless, they'll never not be afraid of strange men (all men, really), so they need our help." I beginning to think feminism is just one, giant unconscious cry for help.
  15. @black sea

    Last week, Clinton, who has had a lifetime to contemplate the women’s vote, copped to having a theory.
     
    I'll cop to having a theory. Women who shamelessly endeavour to ride their husbands' coattails into power tend not to garner a lot of respect, particularly when they demonstrate a consistent record of mediocrity-to-failure in every post ever handed to them on the basis of their last name.

    …a consistent record of mediocrity-to-failure…

    Hillary was a really good defense lawyer, if you happened to be a child rapist:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    Everyone deserves a vigorous defense.
  16. Obviously the solution is to outlaw straight marriage.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    I dunno....hating women (as a woman) works for me. Women in the USA are such hypocrites (very few exceptions) compared to all the women in the world who have already had female presidents; dissidents, PM's, generals and head of defense, doctors, lawyers, CEOs. Urban American women are just hysterical screamers of sexism who could never even load a gun!...or kill someone with their bare hands. They are not equal to so many women off the shores of the USA. Puerto Rican women are more stealth than American, spoiled, urban women right now.
  17. Clearly, the right answer is for al males to be raised in captivity until approximately age 15, then be made involuntary sperm donors and killed immediately afterwards. Women will become pregnant via artificial insemination, with 90% of the resulting male fetuses aborted. There will be two crash research programs: one, create artificial sperm so that men can be eliminated entirely; and two, make Hillary Rodham the first immortal being so that She can perform forever the role She was created for, being the benevolent Goddess of the Perfect World of Gaia.

    In other words, holy shit, these people are insane as fuck.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    ".............and two, make Hillary Rodham the first immortal being so that She can perform forever the role She was created for, being the benevolent Goddess of the Perfect World of Gaia."

    She
    , @nickyhaflinger
    Sperm or eggs from stem cells is already a thing
  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This article is more evidence pointing to the existence of a Magic White Womb (as opposed to magic dirt).

    What the left is publicly/overtly strategizing, apparently, is separating white male sperm from white wombs. The encouragement of race-mixing in the popular culture is not enough. White men need to be blocked from mating with white women.

    This is the logical endgame of the leftist attack on the west and is the most extreme form of the war on Amalek (from the Old Testament: destroy the enemy tribe’s bloodlines).

  19. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Of course, perhaps the strongest, instinctive human bond which exists is between a mother and her children. In particular, the relationship between a mother and her son has, historically, always been regarded as being particularly intense.

    Despite the ‘Totem Pole’ Democrat strategy, enough white mothers instinctively realise that Democrat policies are distinctly hostile to their sons’ life chances.

    • Replies: @Alan Mercer
    Somebody ought to survey political opinions of mothers of n children by percentage sons.

    Is a mother of 3 sons more likely conservative than a mother of 3 daughters?
  20. Clearly Steve Sailer needs to have a trigger warning recommending that barf bags be readily available before we read this illogical crap from the Guardian, NYT’s, WP or any other news ‘glitterati’. I’m tired of cleaning my keyboard from projectile vomiting after reading the latest liberal intelligentsia nonsense.

  21. @eah
    https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/911306698635317249

    Welcome to Costco Hillary, I love you.

  22. If the world were only run by women…

    we’d have a new war every 28 days.

    followed by complaining that no one was changing the oil correctly in the tanks and air planes.

    And each nation would be bankrupt after a year as all national budgets would be donated to that Sarah McLachlan-son-supported ASPCA commercial.

    • Replies: @njguy73

    If the world were only run by women…

    we’d have a new war every 28 days.
     
    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren't speaking to each other anymore.
    , @tyrone
    more like in the bush veld fighting with hyenas for rotting carcasses
  23. Lucia Graves and fellow travelers are likely to end up with lonely graves.

    How sad.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    Lucia Graves and fellow travelers are likely to end up with lonely graves.
     
    Only after a fair trial.
  24. If only the Universe were so different as to be unrecognizable…only then, could Hillary Clinton have righteously defeated that villainous cad, Donald J. Trump!

  25. That could help explain why, despite the fact that the Democratic party is generally considered to have policies more favorable to women, Republicans have traditionally won the votes of married women.

    “Just being married makes women more conservative in their vote choice,” said Kretschmer. …

    In fact, since men are the primary breadwinners in the vast majority of American families, their wives may well see equality-focused measures as setting their husbands – and therefore their family – back.

    “Some married women perceive advances for women, such as lawsuits to mitigate pay discrimination, as coming at the expense of their male partners,” the authors continue. …

    They “perceive” so, but why is it implied that they are incorrect in their perception?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    As someone told me once, it's because lots of people, mostly on the Left, have no theory of mind.

    If correct, this would explain why Leftist regimes incline towards totalitarianism, while Rightist regimes incline towards authoritarianism. Or the saying, liberals hate humans and love humanity and conservatives hate humanity and love humans. Or, yet again, Sailer's thesis of leapfrogging loyalties. Think Globally. Macro over Micro. Nothing short of an exogenous shock--financial collapse, epidemic, civil war--will shake that perspective, sometimes not even then. All competing visions must be extirpated because, after all, they don't really exist.

    It's been bizarre to watch this play out. Trump and the outbreak of Right populism are literally causing manic episodes in people.
  26. Sometimes a logic error sticks out like such an ugly, sore thumb that you can’t help but notice it:

    “We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”

    Um, how about maybe conservative white women tend to marry conservative white men?

    Oh, that wouldn’t fit the bias that white women have no agency and are pressured by their white husbands into voting conservative.

    The people pushing this stuff are either stupid or deceptive or both.

    • Agree: dcthrowback
    • Replies: @Jeff Albertson
    Stupidly deceptive and deceptively stupid both work.
  27. But that wouldn’t fit the bias that women have no agency and are pressured into voting conservative.

    You must remember that only straight white men have agency, and hence they can be held responsible for everything.

    The funniest part of the this article is the tacit admission that while horrid white men influence their women, those same women are powerless when it comes to influencing their men.

    • Agree: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @Pericles
    It's well known that wives are unable to influence their husbands.
    , @CK
    A white woman born in 2015 can expect to outlive a white man born in 2015 by 4.7 years ( almost 5% longer ).
    After her husband has passed she will have all the agency the government allows to widows who inherit.
    , @kihowi
    "Why isn't it the other way round" is about the most important question you can ask if you want to understand anything. Which is why you can't remember it being asked, ever.

    Why don't Moslimas force Muslims to wear veils?

    Why didn't Africans colonize Europe?
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    "Well…I don’t have to tell you that we’re run here by a Board of Selectmen. – All males vote at the age of twenty-one. Women vote indirect. We’re lower middle class: sprinkling of professional men… ten per cent illiterate laborers. Politically, we’re eight-six per cent Republicans; six per cent Democrats; four per cent Socialists; rest, indifferent."
    Thornton Wilder, Our Town - emphasis added
  28. @Thomm
    Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.

    So for the bottom tier, this is correct.

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don't become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don't become WN ne'er do wells.

    You’re virtue-signaling, dude. Get a grip.

  29. Anonymous [AKA "narkmald"] says:

    Women tend to soak up the politics, values, etc. of those around them much more than men. I’m surprised I didn’t read about this factor. They are very pliant to the majority view.

    So if a woman lives with a conservative male, whose views are more likely to change over time?

    • Replies: @njguy73

    So if a woman lives with a conservative male, whose views are more likely to change over time?
     
    The divorce lawyers' views will change from "I can't afford that Porsche," to "I now can."
  30. It’s downright strange that these people have to do a study to figure out that people don’t generally want to have a “battle” that harms someone they 1. love and 2. depend on.

  31. @Thomm
    Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.

    So for the bottom tier, this is correct.

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don't become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don't become WN ne'er do wells.

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don’t become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don’t become WN ne’er do wells.

    Most of the people on this site are pretty articulate, this is not exactly low brow reading. Stating that WNs are exclusive to the bottom 10% of society is how you might like it to be, not how it is.

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin, and certainly that would be higher among the men. Certainly the margin among white voters without college degrees was 39 points, but it’s wrong to say the white intelligentsia are all race blind or self-hating.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    As 'The Culture of Critique' makes clear the Authoritarian Personality, sponsored by the AJC, reversed their findings. Love of family, nation and race are strongly correlated to high achieving. The top of society still hasn't strong families, church attendance etc., as Murray has pointed out.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Most of the people on this site are pretty articulate, this is not exactly low brow reading.
     
    Commenter Thomm is a nitwit and a blowhard. You mistook him for someone with a serious opinion.
    , @Thomm

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin,
     
    Except that Trump is not a WN and never was. I support Trump too, but my disdain for WN losers (who are wastebaskets of genetic waste matter, as discussed before) is high.

    WN is a left-wing ideology, and always has been (the KKK was Democrat, Hitler was left-wing, and modern WNs have left-wing economic views).
  32. Research has shown that the voting pattern changes for the same women based on marital status. In other words, a single woman is less likely to vote for the GOP. Then she gets married and she is more likely than before to vote Republican. If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition. And if she were to remarry, back to higher likelihood of voting right.

    Big government is an ersatz husband for unmarried women.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @szopen
    Huh, "If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition." falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas (ie that married women would have been more exposed to views and ideas contradicting her previous views and more likely to understand the men's perspective)
    , @dcthrowback
    security for women (and by extension, their offspring) is their number one concern, no surprises there.
  33. Those darned men! If ladies only could learn how to run militaries, power water and water treatment plants, build houses and commercial buildings, install hvac, build maintain and repair cars, build and maintain roads, install electrical systems, and install and repair plumbing, they would be .5 way there.

    Anyone know a good female mechanic who works on toyota trucks? Would love to help em out

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, but besides the militaries, the electric power, the water, the houses and buildings, the HVAC, the automobiles, the roads and the electrical/plumbing, WHAT HAVE THE MEN EVER DONE FOR US?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvPbj9NX0zc

    BTW, what they ARE good for is sitting back in the bed of Toyota truck in short-shorts and halter tops. Once you see that, it is pretty obvious what the women are good for and what the men are good for. It's simple, really, and I don't know why it has been made so complicated over the last 50 years.

    (Oh, good luck on your truck, Buck.)
    , @L Woods
    Well, the Marines just forced through their first female infantry officer the other day. Apparently men are obsolete in that arena as well. Naturally, now that this stroke of progress is a fait accompli, conservatives will clamor to defend it and pile on anyone so impertinent as to suggest it's anything less than wonderful.
    , @AB-

    If ladies only could learn how to run militaries, power water and water treatment plants, build houses and commercial buildings, install hvac, build maintain and repair cars, build and maintain roads, install electrical systems, and install and repair plumbing, they would be .5 way there.
     
    You agree with Camille Paglia!! She's been on record for the last 20 years about how if womyn were in charge, we'd all be still living in caves and grass huts. That womyn don't have a clue when it comes to producing 'civilization'; they can only benefit from it, but never create it.

    It's been obvious that the last 50 years have seen married womyn being more conservative than single womyn. As previous commenters have pointed out, the govt becomes the husband with singles.

    But I've seen voting trends that even married ones will vote left when there's a govt program they might need in the future; if they left their husband for example. Pretty sure the vast majority of womyn are contemplating that option on a monthly basis...take three quarters of his income, more than that of the assets, and then supplement it with govt goodies. That's the plan.....
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Do Toyota trucks have limited slip differential and independent rear suspension?
    If not, I'm out.
    I have my standards.
  34. In retrospect, the Democrats should never have nominated this 2008 retread primary candidate in 2016. Hillary had lost to the dim witted Obama, after all. Obama won the presidency twice only because the GOP kept sending RINO palookas up against him who showed no interest in actually doing and saying what it would take to win.

    Trump on the other hand showed tremendous courage and independence and did and said what had to be done to win the election. So hard cheese to Hillary.

    • Agree: Anonym
  35. @eah
    https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/911306698635317249

    I was quite impressed that Hillary would go to Deplorableville to sign books. One of her wonks must have suggested that touring nothing but big city malls and whitopian artisan bookshops was bad optics.

    Someone on twitter cruelly juxtaposed that snap with one of the President at the Oval Office desk.

    “If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, then Hillary would be President.”

    Please, someone, post that in the Guardian comments and see how long it lasts.

  36. I hate reading threads focused on women, so here’s an OT pretty good Tweet:

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I've already wrote elsewhere (at the end of a very long thread, so probably nobody read it), but let me repeat. What the NFL players are doing is substantially different from what badthinkers are doing. An unknown badthinker could be hounded out of his job for saying or doing something outside of work, for example participating at a rally. The job might or might not involve talking to clients, but it's never the case that the badthinker engaged in badthink (or badspeak) with the clients, it's always a case of the badthinker saying something outside work hours far away from the workplace, or, at worst, a badthinker saying something to colleagues (like Damore, who wrote his memo on a forum where he was supposed to say his opinion on the question).

    On the other hand, the NFL players are making some kind of political statement in front of the viewers, i.e. in front of clients. (It's actually a black nationalist or BLM political statement, but they are obviously entitled to hold these opinions regardless, just as white nationalists are entitled to hold their beliefs.) I think that if a white nationalist football player was making a white nationalist political statement during the anthem (like doing the Roman salute), then most people here would find it reasonable that he lose his job. (Of course, only if Kaepernick et al would also lose theirs. I wouldn't support a white nationalist losing his job unless all political opinions would be banned from the games.) After all, it would be a PR disaster for the employer. (Just as the current black nationalist posturing is a PR disaster, too.)

    In other words, it's logically consistent to both oppose white nationalists being hounded out of their jobs (for making political statements outside their work) and support black nationalists being fired (for making political statements during 'work', i.e. during the games or the playing of the anthem).

    , @Hawk
    Simple.

    If it agrees with Leftism, it's acceptable. If not, it's not.
  37. OT–I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it’s just an insult, so it’s not fitting for any situation. How about “rent-seekers,” “corrupt left,” “regressive left,” “precarious progressives”? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that’s more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that’s pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that’s supposed to mean.

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    "Passive-progressives" or "passive-aggresive-progressives," is funny IMO, but not quite right either.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    I like 'the Woke', because of the way they fancy themselves as the Enlightened who 'get' all the coolness inherent to identity politics.

    It can be altered to 'Wokies' for the sake of convenience.

    , @Pericles
    Worthless in HR
    Parasite progs
    The Fat and the Furious
    The sinecure left
    The slut shamed
    Campus trash
    Ivy League downtrodden
    Snow White and the Seven AA admits
    Negroes above the Law
    , @DJohn1
    You're trying too hard, and the verbiage you're using is still too complex.

    Note how Trump uses fourth grade language, and is massively persuasive for it.

    Simplify.

    I would suggest "San Francisco Bigots."
    , @27 year old

    They call us racists or bigots, that’s pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that’s supposed to mean.
     
    Everybody gets what it means because they have been telling us what it means for 70 plus years now.

    Racist/bigot is not exactly a rhetorical masterstroke; without many decades of groundwork and full spectrum propaganda, it would be just another fetch.
    , @MarcB.
    "OT–I try to come up with a new term for lefties".

    I used to call them NeoLiberals, but was corrected on here, and rightly so. A designation that was proposed, and that I've been going with ever since is Post-Modern Leftist, which is inclusive of the Left's inculcation by Cultural Marxists. An interesting development since the Trump Phenomenon is that the term leftist has superseded the catch-all of liberal in the vernacular.
    , @7.62mm
    cuckasaurus.
    , @njguy73

    We should try hard to come up with something catchy.
     
    Cultural Marxists.

    "If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things." - Analects of Confucius, Chapter III
    , @Neil Templeton
    Children.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    I've always thought of them as the "Flower Power Mafiosi."
  38. @Chrisnonymous
    I hate reading threads focused on women, so here's an OT pretty good Tweet:

    https://twitter.com/johndurant/status/912005047092776960

    I’ve already wrote elsewhere (at the end of a very long thread, so probably nobody read it), but let me repeat. What the NFL players are doing is substantially different from what badthinkers are doing. An unknown badthinker could be hounded out of his job for saying or doing something outside of work, for example participating at a rally. The job might or might not involve talking to clients, but it’s never the case that the badthinker engaged in badthink (or badspeak) with the clients, it’s always a case of the badthinker saying something outside work hours far away from the workplace, or, at worst, a badthinker saying something to colleagues (like Damore, who wrote his memo on a forum where he was supposed to say his opinion on the question).

    On the other hand, the NFL players are making some kind of political statement in front of the viewers, i.e. in front of clients. (It’s actually a black nationalist or BLM political statement, but they are obviously entitled to hold these opinions regardless, just as white nationalists are entitled to hold their beliefs.) I think that if a white nationalist football player was making a white nationalist political statement during the anthem (like doing the Roman salute), then most people here would find it reasonable that he lose his job. (Of course, only if Kaepernick et al would also lose theirs. I wouldn’t support a white nationalist losing his job unless all political opinions would be banned from the games.) After all, it would be a PR disaster for the employer. (Just as the current black nationalist posturing is a PR disaster, too.)

    In other words, it’s logically consistent to both oppose white nationalists being hounded out of their jobs (for making political statements outside their work) and support black nationalists being fired (for making political statements during ‘work’, i.e. during the games or the playing of the anthem).

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    , @Hawk
    "In other words, it’s logically consistent to both oppose white nationalists being hounded out of their jobs (for making political statements outside their work) and support black nationalists being fired (for making political statements during ‘work’, i.e. during the games or the playing of the anthem)."

    That's only if logic is applied equally. In a sane world, you'd either be allowed to express a political opinion without fear of being fired or with full knowledge that you'd be fired.

    In our insane word, you're allowed to express political opinion as long as it's of the Left. You run a serious risk of being hounded out of your job if your opinion is of the Right.
  39. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    “Passive-progressives” or “passive-aggresive-progressives,” is funny IMO, but not quite right either.

  40. If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn’t 54% an astonishingly low support for one’s race? I could see the Alt-Right complaining how too few white women voted for Trump, but the left seems to be one step ahead in their rhetoric.

    Either way, it’s good to see a leftist outlet admit partially that white women are the most radical, sheltered, and fearful leftists. This is the most immature group of people on the planet. And in my experience it spans many generations, all the way up to old white grannies.

    I get a lot of shit from the white right for trashing their women all the time, but if it wasn’t for the white female demographic, the SJW movement would basically be dead in the water. White women are far more numerous and have much more social and cultural power than blacks or Muslims or whatever. And they’re more likely to genuinely believe in lovey dovey “empathy” bullshit than actual minorities, who tend to be more traditional and use liberal politics as a means of self-interest rather than ideological agreement.

    Have a look at who shows up in far left rallies, who populates social justice activist groups, who teaches your kids about trannies, who rewrites your history in the humanities department, who makes the most over-the-top attacks on masculinity, and so on. It’s mostly your white wives, daughters, mothers, and sisters. The culture they spread is a danger to humanity in general, not just white majority countries. You need to check them before some outside group comes in and does it for you.

    • Agree: Kevin C., fish
    • Replies: @reiner Tor

    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn’t 54% an astonishingly low support for one’s race?
     
    I don't think it was "astonishingly low", given the 24/7 propaganda about how bad Trump was and how evil it was (is) to be a racially conscious white. And especially since Trump with his trophy wives wasn't exactly the candidate most appealing to women, married or not.
    , @Paco Wové
    My Facebook feed forces me to agree with you.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    This is all true, Jason. Good comment. However, this will all come to an end when the SHTF financially (and most likely politically along with it). Women will realize who they are and who/what they are dependent on. Once the ponzi stops, the stupidity stops with it.
    , @L Woods
    White men are profoundly and intractably delusional about women. They have internalized the "gender equality" schtick to an astonishing extent, irrespective of their place on the political spectrum. Even hard edged red pill types don't have any better answers than disengagement (MGTOW) or "lift and maintain frame bruh" (PUAs). They will not and cannot do anything to "check" the feral menace that white women represent.
    , @Anonymous
    Lol, this was a great comment! And SJWism makes white women seem so much more unfeminine. And coincident with the SJWism, young white women nowadays dress slovenly and have all but given up trying to be feminine and seductive. At most they phone it in. And when they try to be feminine and seductive they go right to slutty. From sweat pants, t-shirt, and unkempt hair to tight, short black dress, heavy eyeliner, and lots of hairspray. Someone commented about how their regular travel to Japan opened their eyes to what frumpy-dumpies white women in the West have become.

    I think if white women took some lessons on femininity and seductiveness from Asian women the West wouldn't have a declining white population. But this doesn't seem like a possibility. So, life's a bitch and then you marry one.

    , @ATX Hipster
    Well said.

    When you look at the demographic breakdown of the election results, it's understandable that the left is pushing the narrative of rising white nationalism so hard. Badwhites got their guy in office with only a 21 point margin among white voters.

    Compare that to blacks going 93% for Obama and 88% for Hillary, and you can see why the thought of white identity politics is terrifying to the left.
  41. @Jason Liu
    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn't 54% an astonishingly low support for one's race? I could see the Alt-Right complaining how too few white women voted for Trump, but the left seems to be one step ahead in their rhetoric.

    Either way, it's good to see a leftist outlet admit partially that white women are the most radical, sheltered, and fearful leftists. This is the most immature group of people on the planet. And in my experience it spans many generations, all the way up to old white grannies.

    I get a lot of shit from the white right for trashing their women all the time, but if it wasn't for the white female demographic, the SJW movement would basically be dead in the water. White women are far more numerous and have much more social and cultural power than blacks or Muslims or whatever. And they're more likely to genuinely believe in lovey dovey "empathy" bullshit than actual minorities, who tend to be more traditional and use liberal politics as a means of self-interest rather than ideological agreement.

    Have a look at who shows up in far left rallies, who populates social justice activist groups, who teaches your kids about trannies, who rewrites your history in the humanities department, who makes the most over-the-top attacks on masculinity, and so on. It's mostly your white wives, daughters, mothers, and sisters. The culture they spread is a danger to humanity in general, not just white majority countries. You need to check them before some outside group comes in and does it for you.

    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn’t 54% an astonishingly low support for one’s race?

    I don’t think it was “astonishingly low”, given the 24/7 propaganda about how bad Trump was and how evil it was (is) to be a racially conscious white. And especially since Trump with his trophy wives wasn’t exactly the candidate most appealing to women, married or not.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, but Mr. Tor, what about the other candidate? The only appeal I could imagine would simply be "she's got the same private parts as me, so that's that - I'm with her!". That is definitely not all women, married or not. I think the 24/7 propaganda indeed would affect the women more, so I agree on that point, but man, how could you click the check mark for that sick piece of wasted protoplasm?

    BTW, as far as the married-women gap, per Steve's good analysis, how about just one small bit of conjecture? Do you all think it's possible that the lack of time to waste in front of the TV for married women (especially w/kids) might account for lack of brainwashing by the Lyin' Press, hence a better thought process, hence a vote for Trump (at least AGAINST the Hildabeast)?

    Someone should study that - hey Professor Assistant Professor - any of our tax grant money for that sort of thing left? iSteve will be guaranteed to publish you. Then unz commenters can peer-review the crap out your results. Deal?
  42. @Thomm
    Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.

    So for the bottom tier, this is correct.

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don't become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don't become WN ne'er do wells.

    White flight happens pretty much at all levels of white income levels (and ideology levels), white flight is just a more polite manifestation of white nationalism. Would you like to live somewhere that was 90% non white, and please don’t give me the stock standard “I have such wonderful (insert random non white group here) neighbours”, I asked if you would want to live in a 90% non white area.

  43. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    I like ‘the Woke’, because of the way they fancy themselves as the Enlightened who ‘get’ all the coolness inherent to identity politics.

    It can be altered to ‘Wokies’ for the sake of convenience.

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    Woke is a nice ironic sneer, but it's still more of an in-joke with us, even regular lefties, the not-so-woke, might not get it. However, Joe Blow understands "racist" perfectly, so we need something that everybody understands and it must be as aggressive and effective. German Neonazis call them "Zecken," ticks, which is apt, but referring to biology is problematic to say the least.
    , @Pericles
    The Wokest.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    But then you'll have people advising you to "Let the Wokies Win."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN0T5tyJlo8
  44. A college-educated woman identifying as a liberal Democrat confided to Kretschmer – not wanting to be identified, as a Trump voter – that she had voted for him over Clinton because her husband’s job depends on the coal industry; she saw Trump as the candidate that would protect it, and by extension her family’s economic interests. Kretschmer called her story “the clearest, most heartbreaking validation of our article that I had ever heard”.

    The story is not just heartbreaking to Professor Assistant Professor Kretschmer, but to me too, as stupidity just breaks my heart. How could this Professor Assistant Professor be so dense not to see the other option that was available to Mrs. Clinton?: Don’t threaten to shut down the coal industry! The country has, like, 200 years of energy worth of coal in the ground, most of manufacturing jobs are gone, and people have to make a living. If she had thought about that, she also may have won and been our President now.

    So, heartbreaking ….
    .
    .
    .
    …. ly stupid!

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @cwhatfuture
    Had a recurring argument with some Northeastern liberals over coal, and when I pointed out that people have to make a living, that these are good jobs in economically depressed areas and they produce many follow on jobs, not to mention lessen our dependence on oil, the answer I received was: "The miners should retrain and move to where they could get a job in "Green Energy". I received this answer from a dentist, a financial advisor and a NY City bureaucrat. I now realize that Green Energy is like the perfect communist world the Marxists imagined in the early 20th Century and coal and oil are like dreadful monopoly capitalism. Get rid of the coal and oil and an energy nirvana will follow. And they really believe it. Hillary would have shut down the coal mines and banned drilling. As for the energy nirvana? it will be here any minute.
  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It is possible to use a flow cytometry to sort female and male sperm out of a mixed sample using a DNA intercalating dye to stain for the difference in DNA content of the X and Y chromosomes. So Science could make it so that all future conceptions were of females.

    The only wrinkle is that at that point you woild no longer have access to sperm. That could be technologically overcome with a sufficient investment in liquid nitrogen cryopreservation tanks, an army of ideologically motivated feminist sperm donors and a quantity of cuckold porn.

    • Replies: @DJohn1
    Synthetic biology is getting to the point where it can synthesize monocellular organisms.

    Sperm and ova are monocellular organisms.

    Synthesized sperm and ova mean no doners required. Synthesized sperm and ova plus an artificial womb means no functional biological females required.

    At that point the human species can be reengineered to remove the sexes, and something like this becomes possible:

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/J%27naii

    I doubt such a quasi-species would survive the first societal collapse it faced. Not adaptive enough.
  46. “And ironically, the women who bore the most resemblance to Clinton – white, heterosexual and married – were less likely to vote for her.”

    Hillary’s marriage is a sham and has been for decades. As for the heterosexual part, when will Hillary finally come out of the closet?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Agree--the "married" in that description of Hillary should have had scare quotes.
  47. @reiner Tor
    I've already wrote elsewhere (at the end of a very long thread, so probably nobody read it), but let me repeat. What the NFL players are doing is substantially different from what badthinkers are doing. An unknown badthinker could be hounded out of his job for saying or doing something outside of work, for example participating at a rally. The job might or might not involve talking to clients, but it's never the case that the badthinker engaged in badthink (or badspeak) with the clients, it's always a case of the badthinker saying something outside work hours far away from the workplace, or, at worst, a badthinker saying something to colleagues (like Damore, who wrote his memo on a forum where he was supposed to say his opinion on the question).

    On the other hand, the NFL players are making some kind of political statement in front of the viewers, i.e. in front of clients. (It's actually a black nationalist or BLM political statement, but they are obviously entitled to hold these opinions regardless, just as white nationalists are entitled to hold their beliefs.) I think that if a white nationalist football player was making a white nationalist political statement during the anthem (like doing the Roman salute), then most people here would find it reasonable that he lose his job. (Of course, only if Kaepernick et al would also lose theirs. I wouldn't support a white nationalist losing his job unless all political opinions would be banned from the games.) After all, it would be a PR disaster for the employer. (Just as the current black nationalist posturing is a PR disaster, too.)

    In other words, it's logically consistent to both oppose white nationalists being hounded out of their jobs (for making political statements outside their work) and support black nationalists being fired (for making political statements during 'work', i.e. during the games or the playing of the anthem).

    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren’t clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it’s too infuriating.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @ic1000
    > the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren’t clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war.

    That's interesting. But, having watched many CBS News and NBC News segments on this subject, I have yet to see this mentioned.

    So I have to conclude that it's irrelevant to the current controversy. Unz moderator, delete '415 Reason's' comment.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    I remember a great exchange between Porter and Mangan over one of Tyler Cowen's posts on Marginal Revolution. Cowen rhapsodized on the prospect of Americans getting used to their future cumin-flavored bean diets. Porter asked whether this cloistered academic really thought his beloved Oompa-Loompas would stay quiescent over their legume-dominated repasts while he sups on organic kaeng phet. Mangan responded no, Cowen rarely gives much thought to the prospect of revolutions and people being slaughtered in their beds.

    A perspective different from Cowen's seems to be taking hold in the NFL owner's suites. This is a bottom-up revolt from the black-dominated locker rooms and the planter-class is nervous. It's inexplicable to me--why would a bunch of white billionaires pivot to their employees over the folks in the stands actually paying the bills? But I'm not on the inside, and can only surmise that something else is going on that's making the owners blink.
    , @Robert Hume

    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren’t clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war.
     
    That would, of course, have been a perfect explanation for not hiring Kaepernick. But the NFL hasn’t chosen to make that explicit explanation.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    My impression (as someone who admittedly hasn't taken much interest in this controversy) is that it was a mistake not to nip this insolence in the bud when it began with Colin Kaepernick. Now that it has spread to so many other players, the owners fear the consequences of punishing them. Meanwhile, they're losing their only real equity--fan loyalty.
    , @Coemgen, @Desiderius
    The league is the force of political correctness. This isn't cravenness, it's brazen contempt.
    , @ATX Hipster

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues
     
    The Penguins are still going to the White House. The NHL has never really had player behavior problems on the scale of the NFL, and hasn't to my knowledge felt the need to engage in diversity virtue signaling.

    I leave it to you to puzzle out what's going on there.
    , @Corvinus
    Yes, there is a protocol, and NFL owners have chosen not to enforce it vigorously, given the current nature of our political discourse.

    Loudmouth Stephen A. Smith offers some insight here regarding the implementation of this protocol.

    https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem

    "I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it’s too infuriating."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA
  48. There is already Polish movie about this – “Seksmisja”.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088083/

    • Replies: @neutral
    I am surprised that such a movie could be made in 1984 in Poland, I was under the assumption that such movies would be regarded as taboo under the communist censors.

    Having said that, I wonder if such a movie would have a harder time getting made in Hollywood now than communist Poland.

  49. Mildly off-topic, intended as an invitation to speculation:
    In the last free election in Weimar Germany (or the last-but-one, not utterly sure which) 13% more women than men voted Hitler. In the German election this past weekend, the AfD vote skewed significantly – though not as drastically – male (something like 6%). Thoughts? Obviously, anti-immigrationism is different from anti-semitism, but there must be more factors involved. BTW, did any feminists ever reflect on the historical female preference for the Nazis?

    • Replies: @DFH
    One cause at least might be that men were (unlike women) involved in trade unions and as a consequence left-wing politics, whetheras no similar route existed for women.
    There's actually a similar general pattern of greater female support for right-wing parties in Europe post-war as well iirc (e.g. more women voted for the Conservatives in Britain, and the Christian Democrats in Italy)
  50. @Twinkie
    Research has shown that the voting pattern changes for the same women based on marital status. In other words, a single woman is less likely to vote for the GOP. Then she gets married and she is more likely than before to vote Republican. If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition. And if she were to remarry, back to higher likelihood of voting right.

    Big government is an ersatz husband for unmarried women.

    Huh, “If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition.” falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas (ie that married women would have been more exposed to views and ideas contradicting her previous views and more likely to understand the men’s perspective)

    • Replies: @AM

    falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas
     
    Married women who stay married have a set of priorities and coping skills that are not found in single women. It's not exposure to different ideas in so much as it is rising to meet a situation. Women who divorce have failed to meet the situation.

    I believe at one point in time, in the early 20th century, there was a huge push to get every woman married (a historical abnormality in the West) because people noticed the correlation.

    It was bit like getting everyone into college today with the typical results.

    We'd be better off removing women's suffrage or only extending 1 vote to formally married households.
    , @27 year old

    Huh, “If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition.” falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas (ie that married women would have been more exposed to views and ideas contradicting her previous views and more likely to understand the men’s perspective)
     
    That's hilarious. A divorced woman walking away with more empathy for men?
  51. @The Last Real Calvinist
    I like 'the Woke', because of the way they fancy themselves as the Enlightened who 'get' all the coolness inherent to identity politics.

    It can be altered to 'Wokies' for the sake of convenience.

    Woke is a nice ironic sneer, but it’s still more of an in-joke with us, even regular lefties, the not-so-woke, might not get it. However, Joe Blow understands “racist” perfectly, so we need something that everybody understands and it must be as aggressive and effective. German Neonazis call them “Zecken,” ticks, which is apt, but referring to biology is problematic to say the least.

  52. For married women, the welfare of their children is generally the most important thing in their lives. Trump was offering his Even More Affordable Than Obamacare Health Care Act and a reduced interest in pursuing foreign wars, plus a generally heterosexual outlook.

    Married women have a large vested interest in the power of the pussy to incentivize men, and thus are less interested in the welfare of lesbians, so Trumps alleged crude remarks about the easy availability of sex for rich and famous men was not necessarily a vote loser, and Democratic Party support for gays and transsexuals was no vote winner.

    Presidential elections are often tight and depend on a few swing votes in a few swing states. This time around Hillary lost because not enough uncommitted voters could be bothered to leave the fireside after work on a cold November night go to the polls for her, and she was running against a candidate who was very well known to the electorate thanks to his reality TV show, which most people had heard of, even if they had never watched it.

  53. More irrational nonsense from the leftist nut-cases, but what else can one expect from the “Guardian”.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

  54. … the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war.

    This is actually very interesting.

    In Europe national anthems are not played at sports fixtures between domestic teams, only for international matches. So for example if England play Germany at soccer, the national anthems of each team are played before the match while the players line up and shuffle uneasily,and the national flags are displayed. However it is a fair bet that neither the players nor the spectators are thinking about World Wars I & II, Gallipoli, Dresden, Stalingrad, Auschwitz, Belsen, the Battle of Britain, the Normandy landings, and so on.

    Why is it that US sporting events make people think about people who lost their lives in war? Perhaps they should just stop playing the national anthem before games and play something like Queen’s rousing anthem We Are The Champions rather than depressing tunes that remind people of death when they have come out to enjoy themselves.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    It's because the United States is a nation of immigrants. In order to build such a diverse nation state of misaligned interests into a cohesive entity, nationalism must be injected at every venture imaginable. It's why we say the pledge and why our Fourth of July is so much better than any European equivalent.

    It's the same reason why O'Canada is played as well. You have to find some way to bind all the different people. It's imperfect, but it works.
    , @slumber_j

    So for example if England play Germany at soccer, the national anthems of each team are played before the match while the players line up and shuffle uneasily,and the national flags are displayed. However it is a fair bet that neither the players nor the spectators are thinking about World Wars I & II, Gallipoli, Dresden, Stalingrad, Auschwitz, Belsen, the Battle of Britain, the Normandy landings, and so on.
     
    That's a bet I'd take...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp615_eW-dk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUx8D6dD8FM
  55. @JohnnyD
    If Huma didn't have such a sleazy husband, Hillary could be president right now...

    Bullshit, she’s ( HC) just as sleazy as he is.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and Pro Jaz artist

  56. Women don’t like having other women as their boss, and having a woman like Hilary in charge with her know-it-all attitude and tendency to lecture in poll-tested soundbites is not an attractive option.

    Certainly it is not uncommon for a spouse’s politics to be influenced by their partner’s, but at the end of the day most people vote for the candidate who seems to have their interests at heart. Clinton had an opportunity to make that pitch to families, but spent more time framing her concerns as revolving around broad victim classes, and there are a lot of people turned off by that.

  57. single women tend to cast votes with the fate of all women in mind, while women married to men vote on behalf of their husbands and families

    That’s why we needed Hillary – she could be counted on think of the fate of all women, rather than acting on behalf of her husband.

  58. @The Last Real Calvinist

    But that wouldn’t fit the bias that women have no agency and are pressured into voting conservative.

     

    You must remember that only straight white men have agency, and hence they can be held responsible for everything.

    The funniest part of the this article is the tacit admission that while horrid white men influence their women, those same women are powerless when it comes to influencing their men.

    It’s well known that wives are unable to influence their husbands.

    • Replies: @njguy73

    It’s well known that wives are unable to influence their husbands.
     
    Seriously. It's like, "You want me to get my husband to understand feminist theory? Sure. Once I've got him to remember to put down the toilet seat, take out the garbage, and use the right towels, I'll get right on that [eyeroll]."
    , @Flip
    "Women marry thinking their husbands will change, and they don't, and men marry thinking their wives won't change, and they do."
  59. @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    Mildly off-topic, intended as an invitation to speculation:
    In the last free election in Weimar Germany (or the last-but-one, not utterly sure which) 13% more women than men voted Hitler. In the German election this past weekend, the AfD vote skewed significantly - though not as drastically - male (something like 6%). Thoughts? Obviously, anti-immigrationism is different from anti-semitism, but there must be more factors involved. BTW, did any feminists ever reflect on the historical female preference for the Nazis?

    One cause at least might be that men were (unlike women) involved in trade unions and as a consequence left-wing politics, whetheras no similar route existed for women.
    There’s actually a similar general pattern of greater female support for right-wing parties in Europe post-war as well iirc (e.g. more women voted for the Conservatives in Britain, and the Christian Democrats in Italy)

    • Replies: @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    That's a good point.
    , @The Man From K Street

    There’s actually a similar general pattern of greater female support for right-wing parties in Europe post-war as well iirc
     
    And the biggest reverse gender gap was in France--the biggest reason female suffrage didn't come until 1945. There's a famous story about someone asking French Premier Leon Blum just before the war how he, as head of the supposedly progressive Popular Front government, could justify keeping women away from the ballot box. "Because they'd vote us out of office," was his unguarded answer.
  60. The Guardian ironically has editors who cleared that “ironically;” as for the white hetero betrothed chicks supposedly “most like” Rodham, why wouldn’t they be able to sniff out her scam the better for that? Nah, let’s ponder “What’s The Matter With Womansas” instead… W/ apologies to Al Pacino in The Devil’s Advocate– false consciousness: it *is* a bitch!

  61. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    Worthless in HR
    Parasite progs
    The Fat and the Furious
    The sinecure left
    The slut shamed
    Campus trash
    Ivy League downtrodden
    Snow White and the Seven AA admits
    Negroes above the Law

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    Campus trash ftw, it's short and has a ring to it, goes well shit studies. The rest is funny but again, not necessarily Joe Blow-compatible.

    > sinecure left
    IMO we can't go full Anglo-Norman on Joe B., plum job left might be better though that's too long. Also, not aggressive enough. (while negroe/parasite is too bad)
  62. White men are responsible for all of the world’s problem including the loss by Hilary Clinton to Donald Trump in the 2016 election. These white women with white husbands and sons are slaves to the ideology of these white men in their households. I think the following two paragraphs say it all.

    But social science backs up Clinton’s anecdotal hunch. “We think she was right in her analysis about women getting pressure from men in their lives, specifically [straight] white women,” said Kelsy Kretschmer, an assistant professor at Oregon State University and a co-author of a recent study examining women’s voting patterns.

    “We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”

    Since Rachel Dolezal lives nearby in Washington, maybe she can give these oppressed white women a few pointers on how to defy their patriarchal families.

  63. @Twinkie
    Research has shown that the voting pattern changes for the same women based on marital status. In other words, a single woman is less likely to vote for the GOP. Then she gets married and she is more likely than before to vote Republican. If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition. And if she were to remarry, back to higher likelihood of voting right.

    Big government is an ersatz husband for unmarried women.

    security for women (and by extension, their offspring) is their number one concern, no surprises there.

  64. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    You’re trying too hard, and the verbiage you’re using is still too complex.

    Note how Trump uses fourth grade language, and is massively persuasive for it.

    Simplify.

    I would suggest “San Francisco Bigots.”

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    so may be rather frisco bigots...
  65. @The Last Real Calvinist
    I like 'the Woke', because of the way they fancy themselves as the Enlightened who 'get' all the coolness inherent to identity politics.

    It can be altered to 'Wokies' for the sake of convenience.

    The Wokest.

  66. @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    > the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren’t clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war.

    That’s interesting. But, having watched many CBS News and NBC News segments on this subject, I have yet to see this mentioned.

    So I have to conclude that it’s irrelevant to the current controversy. Unz moderator, delete ‘415 Reason’s’ comment.

  67. Family comes first. Women with husbands and sons who have been victimized by the Collective Rath of Angry Women tend to temper their support for feminist causes.

    Examples: A husband who was passed over for promotion so that the company could make its affirmative action numbers. A son who was financially wiped out in a divorce, lost custody of the (grand)children, and is now sleeping on a friend’s couch.

    Personal experiences like these can fracture political solidarity among even the most rabid feminists, leaving solidarity to those who, as iSteve points out, live among cats with a taste for chardonnay to anesthetize themselves against their chronic loneliness.

    There is no such thing as a sense of humor among feminists for a reason. They are a sad collection of women who are angry at the world for the hand that Nature (or God) has dealt them.

    Hillary fits this description to a tee.

    • Replies: @Steve from Detroit
    Spot on.
  68. OT

    “Psychopaths prefer rap music, not classical”. I hope they’ve corrected for race effects, classical music is pretty white/SE Asian.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/sep/26/playlist-of-the-lambs-psychopaths-prefer-rap-over-classical-music-study-shows

    I have Blackstreet’s ‘No Diggity’ in my CD pile. There are many much, much nastier rap records than that.

    Also OT, children’s book illustrator (his work is in every UK primary school) puts scene of gay park pickup in background of kids book.

    • LOL: ScarletNumber
  69. @Anonymous
    It is possible to use a flow cytometry to sort female and male sperm out of a mixed sample using a DNA intercalating dye to stain for the difference in DNA content of the X and Y chromosomes. So Science could make it so that all future conceptions were of females.

    The only wrinkle is that at that point you woild no longer have access to sperm. That could be technologically overcome with a sufficient investment in liquid nitrogen cryopreservation tanks, an army of ideologically motivated feminist sperm donors and a quantity of cuckold porn.

    Synthetic biology is getting to the point where it can synthesize monocellular organisms.

    Sperm and ova are monocellular organisms.

    Synthesized sperm and ova mean no doners required. Synthesized sperm and ova plus an artificial womb means no functional biological females required.

    At that point the human species can be reengineered to remove the sexes, and something like this becomes possible:

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/J%27naii

    I doubt such a quasi-species would survive the first societal collapse it faced. Not adaptive enough.

  70. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Today’s Google flak-catcher home page is about a lesbian academic who stopped growing at 12 and wrote a book subtitled “The New Mestiza.” To be fair she does look that way in some photos but her family name is of Basque origin and she is vastly whiter than anyone you’d meet on a county bus in L.A. at 6am. Apparently had some association with UC Santa Cruz which seems like a real plain-lesbian hot bed, to mix metaphors. Public status of fancy lesbians has greatly declined from the 90s, it probably peaked with Anne Heche

  71. @Jason Liu
    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn't 54% an astonishingly low support for one's race? I could see the Alt-Right complaining how too few white women voted for Trump, but the left seems to be one step ahead in their rhetoric.

    Either way, it's good to see a leftist outlet admit partially that white women are the most radical, sheltered, and fearful leftists. This is the most immature group of people on the planet. And in my experience it spans many generations, all the way up to old white grannies.

    I get a lot of shit from the white right for trashing their women all the time, but if it wasn't for the white female demographic, the SJW movement would basically be dead in the water. White women are far more numerous and have much more social and cultural power than blacks or Muslims or whatever. And they're more likely to genuinely believe in lovey dovey "empathy" bullshit than actual minorities, who tend to be more traditional and use liberal politics as a means of self-interest rather than ideological agreement.

    Have a look at who shows up in far left rallies, who populates social justice activist groups, who teaches your kids about trannies, who rewrites your history in the humanities department, who makes the most over-the-top attacks on masculinity, and so on. It's mostly your white wives, daughters, mothers, and sisters. The culture they spread is a danger to humanity in general, not just white majority countries. You need to check them before some outside group comes in and does it for you.

    My Facebook feed forces me to agree with you.

  72. @Buck Turgidson
    Those darned men! If ladies only could learn how to run militaries, power water and water treatment plants, build houses and commercial buildings, install hvac, build maintain and repair cars, build and maintain roads, install electrical systems, and install and repair plumbing, they would be .5 way there.

    Anyone know a good female mechanic who works on toyota trucks? Would love to help em out

    Yeah, but besides the militaries, the electric power, the water, the houses and buildings, the HVAC, the automobiles, the roads and the electrical/plumbing, WHAT HAVE THE MEN EVER DONE FOR US?!

    BTW, what they ARE good for is sitting back in the bed of Toyota truck in short-shorts and halter tops. Once you see that, it is pretty obvious what the women are good for and what the men are good for. It’s simple, really, and I don’t know why it has been made so complicated over the last 50 years.

    (Oh, good luck on your truck, Buck.)

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    It wasn't men who made things complicated.
  73. Many had expected Clinton to rally women, the same way Barack Obama rallied black voters in 2008 – and if she had, she would have handily trumped Donald Trump.

    In looking up the verb “to trump” to reassure myself that the authoress had deployed it not only as an NYT-style botched witticism but also borderline-incorrectly, I discovered an intriguing alternate definition of “trump,” the noun:

    b chiefly Scotland[!!!] : jew’s harp

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trump

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    By the way, I also glimpsed once again the derivation of "trump": it's alleged to be a corruption of "triumph."

    Okay, and I understand the arguments in favor of that. However, I can't get past the fact that trumps exist in games involving tricks, so wouldn't the French tromper be a very likely source? I realize that I am very likely wrong.
  74. @slumber_j

    Many had expected Clinton to rally women, the same way Barack Obama rallied black voters in 2008 – and if she had, she would have handily trumped Donald Trump.
     
    In looking up the verb "to trump" to reassure myself that the authoress had deployed it not only as an NYT-style botched witticism but also borderline-incorrectly, I discovered an intriguing alternate definition of "trump," the noun:

    b chiefly Scotland[!!!] : jew's harp

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trump

    By the way, I also glimpsed once again the derivation of “trump”: it’s alleged to be a corruption of “triumph.”

    Okay, and I understand the arguments in favor of that. However, I can’t get past the fact that trumps exist in games involving tricks, so wouldn’t the French tromper be a very likely source? I realize that I am very likely wrong.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It ill-behooves me to state that the verb or noun 'trump' has slang meaning in the north of England of 'flatulence'.
  75. @reiner Tor

    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn’t 54% an astonishingly low support for one’s race?
     
    I don't think it was "astonishingly low", given the 24/7 propaganda about how bad Trump was and how evil it was (is) to be a racially conscious white. And especially since Trump with his trophy wives wasn't exactly the candidate most appealing to women, married or not.

    Yeah, but Mr. Tor, what about the other candidate? The only appeal I could imagine would simply be “she’s got the same private parts as me, so that’s that – I’m with her!”. That is definitely not all women, married or not. I think the 24/7 propaganda indeed would affect the women more, so I agree on that point, but man, how could you click the check mark for that sick piece of wasted protoplasm?

    BTW, as far as the married-women gap, per Steve’s good analysis, how about just one small bit of conjecture? Do you all think it’s possible that the lack of time to waste in front of the TV for married women (especially w/kids) might account for lack of brainwashing by the Lyin’ Press, hence a better thought process, hence a vote for Trump (at least AGAINST the Hildabeast)?

    Someone should study that – hey Professor Assistant Professor – any of our tax grant money for that sort of thing left? iSteve will be guaranteed to publish you. Then unz commenters can peer-review the crap out your results. Deal?

  76. Husbands and wives having meaningful discussions and voting on the basis of policy, not on the basis of gender or race. Who knew?

  77. @reiner Tor

    That could help explain why, despite the fact that the Democratic party is generally considered to have policies more favorable to women, Republicans have traditionally won the votes of married women.

    “Just being married makes women more conservative in their vote choice,” said Kretschmer. …

    In fact, since men are the primary breadwinners in the vast majority of American families, their wives may well see equality-focused measures as setting their husbands – and therefore their family – back.

    “Some married women perceive advances for women, such as lawsuits to mitigate pay discrimination, as coming at the expense of their male partners,” the authors continue. …
     
    They "perceive" so, but why is it implied that they are incorrect in their perception?

    As someone told me once, it’s because lots of people, mostly on the Left, have no theory of mind.

    If correct, this would explain why Leftist regimes incline towards totalitarianism, while Rightist regimes incline towards authoritarianism. Or the saying, liberals hate humans and love humanity and conservatives hate humanity and love humans. Or, yet again, Sailer’s thesis of leapfrogging loyalties. Think Globally. Macro over Micro. Nothing short of an exogenous shock–financial collapse, epidemic, civil war–will shake that perspective, sometimes not even then. All competing visions must be extirpated because, after all, they don’t really exist.

    It’s been bizarre to watch this play out. Trump and the outbreak of Right populism are literally causing manic episodes in people.

    • Replies: @AM

    Nothing short of an exogenous shock–financial collapse, epidemic, civil war–will shake that perspective, sometimes not even then. All competing visions must be extirpated because, after all, they don’t really exist.
     
    Learning to be anti-narcissistic must be learned early in life. Otherwise, it doesn't matter what's happening, the refuge is always fantasy.

    We could all end up shacks, including the elite, and they'd be mumbling about white privilege because they still thought they had it.

    Unfortunately, it appears that bad ideas literally have to run their course and die out.
  78. @Jason Liu
    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn't 54% an astonishingly low support for one's race? I could see the Alt-Right complaining how too few white women voted for Trump, but the left seems to be one step ahead in their rhetoric.

    Either way, it's good to see a leftist outlet admit partially that white women are the most radical, sheltered, and fearful leftists. This is the most immature group of people on the planet. And in my experience it spans many generations, all the way up to old white grannies.

    I get a lot of shit from the white right for trashing their women all the time, but if it wasn't for the white female demographic, the SJW movement would basically be dead in the water. White women are far more numerous and have much more social and cultural power than blacks or Muslims or whatever. And they're more likely to genuinely believe in lovey dovey "empathy" bullshit than actual minorities, who tend to be more traditional and use liberal politics as a means of self-interest rather than ideological agreement.

    Have a look at who shows up in far left rallies, who populates social justice activist groups, who teaches your kids about trannies, who rewrites your history in the humanities department, who makes the most over-the-top attacks on masculinity, and so on. It's mostly your white wives, daughters, mothers, and sisters. The culture they spread is a danger to humanity in general, not just white majority countries. You need to check them before some outside group comes in and does it for you.

    This is all true, Jason. Good comment. However, this will all come to an end when the SHTF financially (and most likely politically along with it). Women will realize who they are and who/what they are dependent on. Once the ponzi stops, the stupidity stops with it.

  79. @slumber_j
    By the way, I also glimpsed once again the derivation of "trump": it's alleged to be a corruption of "triumph."

    Okay, and I understand the arguments in favor of that. However, I can't get past the fact that trumps exist in games involving tricks, so wouldn't the French tromper be a very likely source? I realize that I am very likely wrong.

    It ill-behooves me to state that the verb or noun ‘trump’ has slang meaning in the north of England of ‘flatulence’.

  80. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    They call us racists or bigots, that’s pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that’s supposed to mean.

    Everybody gets what it means because they have been telling us what it means for 70 plus years now.

    Racist/bigot is not exactly a rhetorical masterstroke; without many decades of groundwork and full spectrum propaganda, it would be just another fetch.

  81. @Lex
    There is already Polish movie about this - "Seksmisja".

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088083/

    I am surprised that such a movie could be made in 1984 in Poland, I was under the assumption that such movies would be regarded as taboo under the communist censors.

    Having said that, I wonder if such a movie would have a harder time getting made in Hollywood now than communist Poland.

  82. @szopen
    Huh, "If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition." falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas (ie that married women would have been more exposed to views and ideas contradicting her previous views and more likely to understand the men's perspective)

    falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas

    Married women who stay married have a set of priorities and coping skills that are not found in single women. It’s not exposure to different ideas in so much as it is rising to meet a situation. Women who divorce have failed to meet the situation.

    I believe at one point in time, in the early 20th century, there was a huge push to get every woman married (a historical abnormality in the West) because people noticed the correlation.

    It was bit like getting everyone into college today with the typical results.

    We’d be better off removing women’s suffrage or only extending 1 vote to formally married households.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    We’d be better off removing women’s suffrage or only extending 1 vote to formally married households.
     
    Do you mean like "OK, I get the truck, the jet-skis, and the vote, and you get the house and the kids and the divorce lawyer"?

    With the bozos selected for us to vote on now, I'll take the kid (even if he is also a bozo too, he's my bozo).
  83. @szopen
    Huh, "If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition." falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas (ie that married women would have been more exposed to views and ideas contradicting her previous views and more likely to understand the men's perspective)

    Huh, “If she gets divorced, her voting pattern reverts to her single condition.” falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas (ie that married women would have been more exposed to views and ideas contradicting her previous views and more likely to understand the men’s perspective)

    That’s hilarious. A divorced woman walking away with more empathy for men?

  84. @The Anti-Gnostic
    As someone told me once, it's because lots of people, mostly on the Left, have no theory of mind.

    If correct, this would explain why Leftist regimes incline towards totalitarianism, while Rightist regimes incline towards authoritarianism. Or the saying, liberals hate humans and love humanity and conservatives hate humanity and love humans. Or, yet again, Sailer's thesis of leapfrogging loyalties. Think Globally. Macro over Micro. Nothing short of an exogenous shock--financial collapse, epidemic, civil war--will shake that perspective, sometimes not even then. All competing visions must be extirpated because, after all, they don't really exist.

    It's been bizarre to watch this play out. Trump and the outbreak of Right populism are literally causing manic episodes in people.

    Nothing short of an exogenous shock–financial collapse, epidemic, civil war–will shake that perspective, sometimes not even then. All competing visions must be extirpated because, after all, they don’t really exist.

    Learning to be anti-narcissistic must be learned early in life. Otherwise, it doesn’t matter what’s happening, the refuge is always fantasy.

    We could all end up shacks, including the elite, and they’d be mumbling about white privilege because they still thought they had it.

    Unfortunately, it appears that bad ideas literally have to run their course and die out.

  85. @Thomm
    Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.

    So for the bottom tier, this is correct.

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don't become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don't become WN ne'er do wells.

    My goodness gosh! It is Thomm, the Hindoo Avenger, come once again to mock his betters.

    Next time you feel compelled to take a Jeet in public – try a nice thick steak instead, Thomm.

  86. @DFH
    One cause at least might be that men were (unlike women) involved in trade unions and as a consequence left-wing politics, whetheras no similar route existed for women.
    There's actually a similar general pattern of greater female support for right-wing parties in Europe post-war as well iirc (e.g. more women voted for the Conservatives in Britain, and the Christian Democrats in Italy)

    That’s a good point.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Also, one of those awkward, never-discussed facts about history was that the post-1919 Adolf Hitler was quite attractive to women. His charisma included a certain sexual one. He was a bachelor who was portrayed as a terribly lonely genius completely dedicated to Germany. Although he probably never racked up the bed count of some of his more extroverted and less neurotic dictatorial colleagues (Mussolini being a prime example), he pretty consistently had a series of mistresses from the early 1920s onward-along with, in the early days in Munich, sexual encounters with young female followers.

    People tend to love what they can't have, and with sex, it's no different.

  87. @Jonathan Mason

    ... the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war.
     
    This is actually very interesting.

    In Europe national anthems are not played at sports fixtures between domestic teams, only for international matches. So for example if England play Germany at soccer, the national anthems of each team are played before the match while the players line up and shuffle uneasily,and the national flags are displayed. However it is a fair bet that neither the players nor the spectators are thinking about World Wars I & II, Gallipoli, Dresden, Stalingrad, Auschwitz, Belsen, the Battle of Britain, the Normandy landings, and so on.

    Why is it that US sporting events make people think about people who lost their lives in war? Perhaps they should just stop playing the national anthem before games and play something like Queen's rousing anthem We Are The Champions rather than depressing tunes that remind people of death when they have come out to enjoy themselves.

    It’s because the United States is a nation of immigrants. In order to build such a diverse nation state of misaligned interests into a cohesive entity, nationalism must be injected at every venture imaginable. It’s why we say the pledge and why our Fourth of July is so much better than any European equivalent.

    It’s the same reason why O’Canada is played as well. You have to find some way to bind all the different people. It’s imperfect, but it works.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    It doesn't seem to be working any more.
    , @Jonathan Mason

    In order to build such a diverse nation state of misaligned interests into a cohesive entity, nationalism must be injected at every venture imaginable. It’s why we say the pledge and why our Fourth of July is so much better than any European equivalent.

    It’s the same reason why O’Canada is played as well. You have to find some way to bind all the different people. It’s imperfect, but it works.
     

    I get that as far as it goes, but who actually decides that domestic pro football games, which are commercial sporting events are to be one of the venues where we must commemorate the war dead?

    Today Trump was talking about people dying for the flag, but people don't really die for a flag; in modern times they die because they signed up to serve in the military and ended up in harm's way when they didn't really want to be there. They may even have died when asleep in a bunk on a lower deck of a ship when it was in a collision in peacetime due to a mistake by someone else.

    The flag also symbolizes the 50 states of union irrevocably united after a horrible Civil War in which the forces that wanted to continue chattel slavery were defeated and the South subjugated by the forces of the remaining states of the time.

    If it is part of your contract as a professional athlete that you should stand up and sing the US national anthem before every game, then fair enough, you are getting paid enough for the chore, even if you are not actually a citizen of the US, which some players might not be.

    But it seems like a slippery slope for sports to be mandating this kind of thing at all, and all this stuff about celebrating the blood of martyrs seems phony to me. Incidentally my own grandfather was stoned to death by a mob in Mosul in 1939, but I still don't think there is any point in dwelling on these things. Life must go on.

    But then I don't particularly support the idea of the government giving financial help to football franchises to build stadiums. That seems like a violation of the First Amendment.

    , @anon
    If you think this is "working" how do you define failure?
  88. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Former West Point instructor and top analyst at the DIA, Col. Patrick Lang, who was not a Trump supporter during the election, said that if Hillary won the election she would have pushed a ‘no fly zone’ in Syria and quickly escalated the situation by shooting down Russian planes. Lang predicted such a move would have inevitably and quickly moved to nuclear and led, for starters, to the obliteration of American cities and the Eastern Seaboard of the U.S.

    Lang has a long history of being correct on his geostrategic predictions and was a favorite on CNN and NPR until he started voicing his opposition to “the Borg” (neocons). So consider his scenario if Hillary had won. Maybe childless, unmarried women and liberals think this price would’ve been worth a Hillary presidency.

  89. @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    I remember a great exchange between Porter and Mangan over one of Tyler Cowen’s posts on Marginal Revolution. Cowen rhapsodized on the prospect of Americans getting used to their future cumin-flavored bean diets. Porter asked whether this cloistered academic really thought his beloved Oompa-Loompas would stay quiescent over their legume-dominated repasts while he sups on organic kaeng phet. Mangan responded no, Cowen rarely gives much thought to the prospect of revolutions and people being slaughtered in their beds.

    A perspective different from Cowen’s seems to be taking hold in the NFL owner’s suites. This is a bottom-up revolt from the black-dominated locker rooms and the planter-class is nervous. It’s inexplicable to me–why would a bunch of white billionaires pivot to their employees over the folks in the stands actually paying the bills? But I’m not on the inside, and can only surmise that something else is going on that’s making the owners blink.

    • Replies: @EdwardM

    It’s inexplicable to me–why would a bunch of white billionaires pivot to their employees over the folks in the stands actually paying the bills? But I’m not on the inside, and can only surmise that something else is going on that’s making the owners blink.
     
    It's because adherence to the narrative has become more important than profits in business today, especially big, high-profile business. We see examples every day, e.g., the second-generation Murdochs, who even admitted that Fox News embarrassed them in front of their fancy friends.

    I think that it's more true in the NFL than even in Silicon Valley because of who the owners are. The majority are not entrepreneurs who built their teams, or any previous business endeavors that provided them the wherewithal to buy their teams, through their own skill, but rather are spoiled born-rich kids.

    Of course there are exceptions, but one good example is Jed York of the San Francisco 49ers. He's a thirty-something brat whose daddy made him team president in his 20s. He's never run anything other than in the family business. These people are more heredity oligarchs than hard-working, savvy business people.

    Those who are true entrepreneurs don't fit into the club, e.g., in the NBA, Mark Cuban, who has been excoriated for political incorrectness from time to time, or Donald Sterling or Bruce Levenson -- who in addition to being hounded out of polite society for "racism" borne from noticing business patterns relevant to their bottom line -- have their blue-collar, started-from-nothing backgrounds in common.

    It's not surprising at all that most sports owners see their constituency as the New York cocktail party set more than the rubes who sit in the stands. Pro sports team owners -- they don't make 'em like they used to.
  90. @Buzz Mohawk
    So, we are to think that it's great that practically all blacks vote on the basis of race, and terrible that some females don't vote on the basis of sex.

    White married women are more likely to think critically and not vote for a candidate just because she has a vagina. It's that simple.

    White married women are more likely to think critically and not vote for a candidate just because she has a vagina.

    I think they tend to vote more conservatively because they are concerned about their husbands’ well-being, even if only for selfish reasons. I am married and my liberal wife becomes more conservative each year when she signs our tax returns.

  91. @whorefinder
    If the world were only run by women...

    we'd have a new war every 28 days.

    followed by complaining that no one was changing the oil correctly in the tanks and air planes.

    And each nation would be bankrupt after a year as all national budgets would be donated to that Sarah McLachlan-son-supported ASPCA commercial.

    If the world were only run by women…

    we’d have a new war every 28 days.

    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren’t speaking to each other anymore.

    • Replies: @whorefinder

    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren’t speaking to each other anymore.
     
    I lol'd, but you're clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others. Because women are bad at violence, they don't do it personally, but if they have a man under their control---whether it be a husband, boyfriend, or (if they are in a position of power) a police officer or bodyguard---they jump at the chance to make the man do violence for her.

    Woman with a loyal violent man at her disposal is a most dangerous psychopath.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL from both of you.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    The type of women who crave power aren't like the type of women who don't want war.
    , @Brutusale
    No, it's Korea, China and Vietnam whispering among themselves about how fat Japan looks in that kimono.
  92. @Anonym

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don’t become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don’t become WN ne’er do wells.
     
    Most of the people on this site are pretty articulate, this is not exactly low brow reading. Stating that WNs are exclusive to the bottom 10% of society is how you might like it to be, not how it is.

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin, and certainly that would be higher among the men. Certainly the margin among white voters without college degrees was 39 points, but it's wrong to say the white intelligentsia are all race blind or self-hating.

    As ‘The Culture of Critique’ makes clear the Authoritarian Personality, sponsored by the AJC, reversed their findings. Love of family, nation and race are strongly correlated to high achieving. The top of society still hasn’t strong families, church attendance etc., as Murray has pointed out.

  93. And this is why the constant propaganda that for women:

    – the pathway to a fulfilling life is through work,

    -being a stay at home mom is a nightmare (highest job satisfaction though) and

    -babies lower the quality of life.

  94. @Pericles
    It's well known that wives are unable to influence their husbands.

    It’s well known that wives are unable to influence their husbands.

    Seriously. It’s like, “You want me to get my husband to understand feminist theory? Sure. Once I’ve got him to remember to put down the toilet seat, take out the garbage, and use the right towels, I’ll get right on that [eyeroll].”

  95. @Yak-15
    It's because the United States is a nation of immigrants. In order to build such a diverse nation state of misaligned interests into a cohesive entity, nationalism must be injected at every venture imaginable. It's why we say the pledge and why our Fourth of July is so much better than any European equivalent.

    It's the same reason why O'Canada is played as well. You have to find some way to bind all the different people. It's imperfect, but it works.

    It doesn’t seem to be working any more.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    It doesn’t seem to be working any more.
     
    I think I would be more at ease, more simpatico, with the average Russian than I am with blacks in my own apartment building. Even with the language barrier (I don't speak Russian). The inexorable decline and death of the NFL and professional sports adulating blacks will only make this divide larger.
    , @Corvinus
    "As someone told me once, it’s because lots of people, mostly on the Left, have no theory of mind."

    Which is patently absurd. In essence, you are stating a majority of human beings are completely devoid of differentiating competing point of views. That is, they are totally aware of only their own perspective. People everyday put themselves into the shoes of other people.

    So, are we to assume that you do have this ability compared to "lots of people"?
    , @Corvinus
    "It’s inexplicable to me–why would a bunch of white billionaires pivot to their employees over the folks in the stands actually paying the bills?"

    Perhaps because fans generally are supportive of NFL players and will continue to attend games and buy their merchandise?
  96. @The Last Real Calvinist

    But that wouldn’t fit the bias that women have no agency and are pressured into voting conservative.

     

    You must remember that only straight white men have agency, and hence they can be held responsible for everything.

    The funniest part of the this article is the tacit admission that while horrid white men influence their women, those same women are powerless when it comes to influencing their men.

    A white woman born in 2015 can expect to outlive a white man born in 2015 by 4.7 years ( almost 5% longer ).
    After her husband has passed she will have all the agency the government allows to widows who inherit.

  97. “the clearest, most heartbreaking validation of our article that I had ever heard”.

    “Heartbreaking.”

    If only so many of these poor women weren’t married to awful men, coal miners no less! Our utopian future would be just around the corner.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    Richard Burton on coal miners:

    https://youtu.be/NFnra54Yk44?t=169

    The whole thing is good, by the way.
  98. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    It doesn't seem to be working any more.

    It doesn’t seem to be working any more.

    I think I would be more at ease, more simpatico, with the average Russian than I am with blacks in my own apartment building. Even with the language barrier (I don’t speak Russian). The inexorable decline and death of the NFL and professional sports adulating blacks will only make this divide larger.

  99. @cthulhu
    Clearly, the right answer is for al males to be raised in captivity until approximately age 15, then be made involuntary sperm donors and killed immediately afterwards. Women will become pregnant via artificial insemination, with 90% of the resulting male fetuses aborted. There will be two crash research programs: one, create artificial sperm so that men can be eliminated entirely; and two, make Hillary Rodham the first immortal being so that She can perform forever the role She was created for, being the benevolent Goddess of the Perfect World of Gaia.

    In other words, holy shit, these people are insane as fuck.

    “………….and two, make Hillary Rodham the first immortal being so that She can perform forever the role She was created for, being the benevolent Goddess of the Perfect World of Gaia.”

    She

  100. @JohnnyD
    If Huma didn't have such a sleazy husband, Hillary could be president right now...

    If Huma didn’t have such a sleazy husband, Hillary could be president right now…

    Without the sympathy garnered after the blue dress episode, Hillary would never have been a senatorial candidate. Her health care debacle certainly didn’t launch her political careeer.

    If Hillary didn’t have such a sleazy husband, she never would have run.

  101. @Thomm
    Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.

    So for the bottom tier, this is correct.

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don't become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don't become WN ne'er do wells.

    Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.

    This is as ignorant as anything else that has issued forth from your idiot yap. You routinely pull made up numbers out of your ass (head – same thing, in your case). How much math have you ever studied? Why not tell us?

  102. @Buzz Mohawk
    So, we are to think that it's great that practically all blacks vote on the basis of race, and terrible that some females don't vote on the basis of sex.

    White married women are more likely to think critically and not vote for a candidate just because she has a vagina. It's that simple.

    So, we are to think that it’s great that practically all blacks vote on the basis of race, and terrible that some females don’t vote on the basis of sex.

    This is the monomania of the political left: they want 100%. They’ll flog and marginalize the 46% of women who don’t get it; then they’ll move on to the next group. The 5% of Blacks who didn’t vote for Obama?: “First, they came for the women…”

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    In essence this all that the liberal-progressives are about. They want to smash all social obstacles into small enough pieces to allow them to freely do whatever they want, wherever they want. They want to flow smoothly through the rest of us the way kids do in one of those playrooms filled with multicoloured balls. Any countries, families, traditions, religions, languages or personal loyalties that cause friction or blockage have to go. Modern capitalists are no different from the lefties when it comes to this. That's why they get along so well now.
  103. @Anonym

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don’t become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don’t become WN ne’er do wells.
     
    Most of the people on this site are pretty articulate, this is not exactly low brow reading. Stating that WNs are exclusive to the bottom 10% of society is how you might like it to be, not how it is.

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin, and certainly that would be higher among the men. Certainly the margin among white voters without college degrees was 39 points, but it's wrong to say the white intelligentsia are all race blind or self-hating.

    Most of the people on this site are pretty articulate, this is not exactly low brow reading.

    Commenter Thomm is a nitwit and a blowhard. You mistook him for someone with a serious opinion.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    I wonder if Thomm is a new incarnation of Tiny Duck?
  104. @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    That's a good point.

    Also, one of those awkward, never-discussed facts about history was that the post-1919 Adolf Hitler was quite attractive to women. His charisma included a certain sexual one. He was a bachelor who was portrayed as a terribly lonely genius completely dedicated to Germany. Although he probably never racked up the bed count of some of his more extroverted and less neurotic dictatorial colleagues (Mussolini being a prime example), he pretty consistently had a series of mistresses from the early 1920s onward-along with, in the early days in Munich, sexual encounters with young female followers.

    People tend to love what they can’t have, and with sex, it’s no different.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    I've seen snaps in old history books of Hitler being greeted by a crowd of women on some visit - they're ecstatically glowing, gleaming eyes, parted lips, alive and animated. He had power and status, and that's the main thing - plus he'd literally fought his way to his position. I've seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama 's presence.

    Status is better than power for this effect IMHO - a handsome movie star will induce this effect when an equally handsome (but anonymous) business owner with ten times the cash won't.

    But it's gendered turtles all the way down - the CEO might be an ugly slob, but corporate women will still perk up when he's in the room with them.

    Mussolini was a Corbynite type socialist firebrand back in the day. "He made love to any woman who would have him and threatened to rape those who would not" a/c/t Christopher Hibbert's biography.
    , @Roderick Spode
    Braun's friends and relatives described Eva giggling over a 1938 photograph of Neville Chamberlain sitting on a sofa in Hitler's Munich flat with the remark: "If only he knew what goings-on that sofa has seen."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Braun#Relationship_with_Hitler
    , @whorefinder
    Being famous and powerful is catnip to women, so whether it was Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin or Roosevelt or Churchill or Obama or Kennedy or Nixon or Bill Clinton, you can bet your bottom dollar women would swoon in their presence. Add to that a politician's learned charm and you have a powerful trifecta, as Henry Kissinger spoke of ("Power is the greatest aphrodesiac"). And if he's ever on a stage....

    Witness today's lefty women admitting on Twitter how they keep having sex fantasies/dreams about Trump.

  105. @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren’t clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war.

    That would, of course, have been a perfect explanation for not hiring Kaepernick. But the NFL hasn’t chosen to make that explicit explanation.

  106. @BB753
    "And ironically, the women who bore the most resemblance to Clinton – white, heterosexual and married – were less likely to vote for her."

    Hillary's marriage is a sham and has been for decades. As for the heterosexual part, when will Hillary finally come out of the closet?

    Agree–the “married” in that description of Hillary should have had scare quotes.

    • Replies: @BB753
    Also, how can anybody still believe she's straight?
    My personal opinion is that her lesbian vibe turned off a lot of married women.
  107. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT: When the NFL goes the way of professional boxing, the crime rate on college campuses (A/K/A, NFL farm teams) will plummet.

    Felony fraud charges recommended for 9 Florida players

    https://sports.yahoo.com/felony-fraud-charges-recommended-9-florida-players-175940278.html

    Ahead of the season opener against Michigan, Florida announced suspensions for nine players, including Antonio Callaway, the team’s top receiver, and Jordan Scarlett, the team’s top rusher. The suspension stemmed from an investigation into the players allegedly using “school-issued, cost-of-attendance credit cards to buy electronics from the school bookstore and then selling those items for cash.”

    Now, according to multiple outlets, those players — Callaway, Scarlett, receiver Rick Wells, defensive lineman Jordan Smith, offensive lineman Kadeem Telfort, linebacker Ventrell Miller, linebacker James Houston, defensive lineman Richerd Desir-Jones and defensive lineman Keivonnis Davis. could be charged with felony fraud.

    NB: according to that Yahoo Sports article, Ventrell Miller is a freshman.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    The only way it will plummet is if there is a major change on college campuses on the importance of diversity. These colleges will still want a significant percentage of the student body to be black males, but athletic ability will be less of a factor in determining which ones are admitted. This specific case at Florida deals with benefits related to the players being athletes, but most of them don't.
  108. @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    My impression (as someone who admittedly hasn’t taken much interest in this controversy) is that it was a mistake not to nip this insolence in the bud when it began with Colin Kaepernick. Now that it has spread to so many other players, the owners fear the consequences of punishing them. Meanwhile, they’re losing their only real equity–fan loyalty.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    Over half of the NFL owners are now Jewish. They have massively insulted their core audience, patriotic lower middle and working class whites.

    But I think the key turning point was allowing Beyonce to due her solute to the Black Panthers during the 2016 Super Bowl half time. It signaled to Kaepernick he could get away with his radical politics. The Derb was right when he called it back then.

    There is no way the Jewish NFL ownership did not discuss in private allowing racial politics and for that matter gay politics starting with the Michael Sams case back in 2014 to enter into the prole-feed propaganda they peddle.

    Are you taking a look at the commercials the NFL channels and the major Networks are packaging along with the football???

    Where the NFL owners have really messed up was moving the St Louis Rams and San Diego Chargers to LA.

    Who wants to go to a game at LA Coliseum in case a race war breaks out???

  109. @Buck Turgidson
    Those darned men! If ladies only could learn how to run militaries, power water and water treatment plants, build houses and commercial buildings, install hvac, build maintain and repair cars, build and maintain roads, install electrical systems, and install and repair plumbing, they would be .5 way there.

    Anyone know a good female mechanic who works on toyota trucks? Would love to help em out

    Well, the Marines just forced through their first female infantry officer the other day. Apparently men are obsolete in that arena as well. Naturally, now that this stroke of progress is a fait accompli, conservatives will clamor to defend it and pile on anyone so impertinent as to suggest it’s anything less than wonderful.

  110. @Yan Shen

    If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, then Hillary would be President.
     
    But according to our uh good friend Whiskey, every woman in America will soon be coming home to a sexy, sexy black man. And watch out, once sub-Saharan Africa spews its 21st century population explosion across the rest of the world, we'll soon all be caramel like former president Barack Obama. I mean just look at how uh African dudes are already cleaning up in Europe. Can you imagine if there were another 50-100 million of them there?

    It's sexy, sexy black men all the way down...

    Work part time as a delivery driver on what use to be just a couple of decades ago the whitopia of southside Indianapolis.

    Can not tell you the number of downwardly mobile tattooed white women I see with black men. Really sad.

    Lots of white women as they get older will take on a black partner to escape loneliness.

    If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, (((and a Hitachi Magic Wand))) then Hillary would be President.

    No I am not kidding. Just as high speed internet and the appearance of Tube site porn is causing mass erectile dysfunction among young males…

    http://fightthenewdrug.org/your-brain-on-porn-gary-wilsons-porn-fighting-ba-website-working/

    High tech vibrators are making it harder for women to orgasm via masturbation, oral sex and intercourse with a partner. There are also a growing number of young women also becoming addicted to porn.

    That is why there is rapidly growing “NOFAP” movement on the internet. And the hardline the Alt-Right is taking against internet porn is attracting lots of young people sick of what degeneracy is doing to their lives.

    Recently James Hetfield of Metallica has gotten involved in an anti-porn documentary

    https://www.traileraddict.com/article/anti-porn-documentary-narrated-metallicas-james-hetfield/

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
    , @Pat Boyle
    If what you say is true, then that isn't very flattering to black men. White women want a white husband with white children and all that goes with it. That means they want a man who makes a good middle class income and they live in a nice house in a good neighborhood.

    These are the things that women in the past have desired and women of today do so also. But of course not everyone succeeds. Many white women in their best sexually attractive years can't get these things. Then they settle for a vibrator or a black man. So black men are seen as a substitute for a "Magic Wand". This is not a flattering picture of black men.

    As a white man I have never had much trouble getting white women. You just have to be organized and diligent. It is not particularly hard to get women. It is much easier for example than getting rich. The simple reason is that women want to be 'gotten'. But some individuals like the person who calls himself Whiskey seems to have had a lot of trouble finding women. He and a few like him have allowed their social failures to color their political thinking. Black men are not going to get all the white women. There are cases of black sports millionaires getting good looking blondes. That sort of thing gets reported in the media but it is a tiny phenomenon.

    Blacks are doing very badly. They are making no progress in school or on the job. The only place where they seem to prosper is in TV commercials. All the money spent by the government to elevate blacks seems to have been wasted. Blacks are no more equal today than they were when I was a kid - before the Civil Rights movement. So the next time blacks get restless, as they do periodically, they will find that whitey has no more fanciful theories that account for the failures of blacks. Liberal optimism is being ground down by reality.
  111. Wait, but if sexual solidarity requires all women to vote for the female candidate the way racial solidarity required all blacks to vote for Obama, why does this only work in one direction? Shouldn’t all whites vote for the white candidate and all men vote for the male candidate? Leftist logic requires that only one side can be “woke”.

    The “Coalition of the Fringes” only works because in addition to the Fringes, the Left can count on a certain amount of core support. They can (and do) get almost 100% of the black vote but this still only gets them 1/4 of the way to the vote total that they need. Gays are only a few %, Jews are only a few %. The necessary core support used to be provided by white working class union voters until the Dems completely alienated them. Liberal white suburban women were supposed to make up the difference but I guess there are not as many cat ladies as they had hoped.

    I think we need to push the “Cat Lady Agenda” meme. No one, except for actual cat ladies, wants to be associated with the party of the Cat Lady Agenda.

  112. @Jason Liu
    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn't 54% an astonishingly low support for one's race? I could see the Alt-Right complaining how too few white women voted for Trump, but the left seems to be one step ahead in their rhetoric.

    Either way, it's good to see a leftist outlet admit partially that white women are the most radical, sheltered, and fearful leftists. This is the most immature group of people on the planet. And in my experience it spans many generations, all the way up to old white grannies.

    I get a lot of shit from the white right for trashing their women all the time, but if it wasn't for the white female demographic, the SJW movement would basically be dead in the water. White women are far more numerous and have much more social and cultural power than blacks or Muslims or whatever. And they're more likely to genuinely believe in lovey dovey "empathy" bullshit than actual minorities, who tend to be more traditional and use liberal politics as a means of self-interest rather than ideological agreement.

    Have a look at who shows up in far left rallies, who populates social justice activist groups, who teaches your kids about trannies, who rewrites your history in the humanities department, who makes the most over-the-top attacks on masculinity, and so on. It's mostly your white wives, daughters, mothers, and sisters. The culture they spread is a danger to humanity in general, not just white majority countries. You need to check them before some outside group comes in and does it for you.

    White men are profoundly and intractably delusional about women. They have internalized the “gender equality” schtick to an astonishing extent, irrespective of their place on the political spectrum. Even hard edged red pill types don’t have any better answers than disengagement (MGTOW) or “lift and maintain frame bruh” (PUAs). They will not and cannot do anything to “check” the feral menace that white women represent.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Not so. Many of the thoughtful among us, after great and lengthy consideration, have imported white women from places where sanity about traditional rôles prevails or diligently sought out the few such women here. Our wives vehemently agree with us that they prefer being feminine heads of the hearth whilst we keep the world at bay; they eagerly defer to us when we do not agree after taking counsel. They are chief operating officers to our chief executive officers; executive officers to our commanding officers. What's more, these arrangements give us an advantage over the sterile, the barren, and even those other couples and families who waste their energy pretending women and men are the same and farming out their children to the care of institutions.
  113. @cthulhu
    Clearly, the right answer is for al males to be raised in captivity until approximately age 15, then be made involuntary sperm donors and killed immediately afterwards. Women will become pregnant via artificial insemination, with 90% of the resulting male fetuses aborted. There will be two crash research programs: one, create artificial sperm so that men can be eliminated entirely; and two, make Hillary Rodham the first immortal being so that She can perform forever the role She was created for, being the benevolent Goddess of the Perfect World of Gaia.

    In other words, holy shit, these people are insane as fuck.

    Sperm or eggs from stem cells is already a thing

  114. @Thomm
    Among the bottom 10% of whites, the women become bluehaired feminists, and the men become WN losers.

    So for the bottom tier, this is correct.

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don't become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don't become WN ne'er do wells.

    Troll.

  115. @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    The NFL needs to investigate whether or not there is a conspiracy amongst its players to display unsportsmanlike conduct towards its patriotic fans and its host country.
  116. @Buzz Mohawk
    Sometimes a logic error sticks out like such an ugly, sore thumb that you can't help but notice it:

    “We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”
     
    Um, how about maybe conservative white women tend to marry conservative white men?

    Oh, that wouldn't fit the bias that white women have no agency and are pressured by their white husbands into voting conservative.

    The people pushing this stuff are either stupid or deceptive or both.

    Stupidly deceptive and deceptively stupid both work.

  117. @Harry Baldwin
    Agree--the "married" in that description of Hillary should have had scare quotes.

    Also, how can anybody still believe she’s straight?
    My personal opinion is that her lesbian vibe turned off a lot of married women.

  118. @wren
    Lucia Graves and fellow travelers are likely to end up with lonely graves.

    How sad.

    Lucia Graves and fellow travelers are likely to end up with lonely graves.

    Only after a fair trial.

  119. @Mr. Anon

    Most of the people on this site are pretty articulate, this is not exactly low brow reading.
     
    Commenter Thomm is a nitwit and a blowhard. You mistook him for someone with a serious opinion.

    I wonder if Thomm is a new incarnation of Tiny Duck?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    My money is on newbie "Woody Weaver".
  120. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Clinton – white, heterosexual and married –

    Yeah, except not so hetero what with her marriage of convenience to slime-dog Bill and her years long close relationship with her ‘aide’ Huma. She’s emerged in the last fifteen years as looking pretty dykey. She’s white, ok, but has spent a lot of time bashing whitey. White married women can look at her and ask themselves if they’d want a marriage like hers with a husband who is a sex-addict that’s slept with innumerable stray women right under his wife’s nose. A sleazy, deviant money-hungry power couple, is that supposed to be the role model for America’s women?

  121. @nebulafox
    Also, one of those awkward, never-discussed facts about history was that the post-1919 Adolf Hitler was quite attractive to women. His charisma included a certain sexual one. He was a bachelor who was portrayed as a terribly lonely genius completely dedicated to Germany. Although he probably never racked up the bed count of some of his more extroverted and less neurotic dictatorial colleagues (Mussolini being a prime example), he pretty consistently had a series of mistresses from the early 1920s onward-along with, in the early days in Munich, sexual encounters with young female followers.

    People tend to love what they can't have, and with sex, it's no different.

    I’ve seen snaps in old history books of Hitler being greeted by a crowd of women on some visit – they’re ecstatically glowing, gleaming eyes, parted lips, alive and animated. He had power and status, and that’s the main thing – plus he’d literally fought his way to his position. I’ve seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama ‘s presence.

    Status is better than power for this effect IMHO – a handsome movie star will induce this effect when an equally handsome (but anonymous) business owner with ten times the cash won’t.

    But it’s gendered turtles all the way down – the CEO might be an ugly slob, but corporate women will still perk up when he’s in the room with them.

    Mussolini was a Corbynite type socialist firebrand back in the day. “He made love to any woman who would have him and threatened to rape those who would not” a/c/t Christopher Hibbert’s biography.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    He had power and status, and that’s the main thing – plus he’d literally fought his way to his position. I’ve seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama ‘s presence.
     
    Obama had the power and status. I'm not sure about the fighting part.
  122. This is exactly why I encourage my female students to date Men of Color.

    The only reason retrograde conservative viewpoints are even in existence is because white children keep being born. If whites engaged in interracial relationships en masse then racism would disappear because white people would not exist

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    You were mentioned by iSteve! How do you feel about that?
    , @nebulafox
    So, throw this white male a bone: next time I plow a Woman of Darker Color, do I applaud her contribution to racial justice, or do I tell her what a naughty, subversive female Uncle Tom she is as she moans? I can't seem to figure it out.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " This is exactly the reason I encourage my female students to date men of color"

    " My female students" : Who are you trying to fool? You have never had a "Student" in your pathetic life.

    You are obviously a very sick person and have nothing but blatent lunacy to express.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.
  123. @Anonymous
    OT: When the NFL goes the way of professional boxing, the crime rate on college campuses (A/K/A, NFL farm teams) will plummet.

    Felony fraud charges recommended for 9 Florida players

    https://sports.yahoo.com/felony-fraud-charges-recommended-9-florida-players-175940278.html

    Ahead of the season opener against Michigan, Florida announced suspensions for nine players, including Antonio Callaway, the team’s top receiver, and Jordan Scarlett, the team’s top rusher. The suspension stemmed from an investigation into the players allegedly using “school-issued, cost-of-attendance credit cards to buy electronics from the school bookstore and then selling those items for cash.”

    Now, according to multiple outlets, those players — Callaway, Scarlett, receiver Rick Wells, defensive lineman Jordan Smith, offensive lineman Kadeem Telfort, linebacker Ventrell Miller, linebacker James Houston, defensive lineman Richerd Desir-Jones and defensive lineman Keivonnis Davis. could be charged with felony fraud.
     

    NB: according to that Yahoo Sports article, Ventrell Miller is a freshman.

    The only way it will plummet is if there is a major change on college campuses on the importance of diversity. These colleges will still want a significant percentage of the student body to be black males, but athletic ability will be less of a factor in determining which ones are admitted. This specific case at Florida deals with benefits related to the players being athletes, but most of them don’t.

  124. @Harry Baldwin
    My impression (as someone who admittedly hasn't taken much interest in this controversy) is that it was a mistake not to nip this insolence in the bud when it began with Colin Kaepernick. Now that it has spread to so many other players, the owners fear the consequences of punishing them. Meanwhile, they're losing their only real equity--fan loyalty.

    Over half of the NFL owners are now Jewish. They have massively insulted their core audience, patriotic lower middle and working class whites.

    But I think the key turning point was allowing Beyonce to due her solute to the Black Panthers during the 2016 Super Bowl half time. It signaled to Kaepernick he could get away with his radical politics. The Derb was right when he called it back then.

    There is no way the Jewish NFL ownership did not discuss in private allowing racial politics and for that matter gay politics starting with the Michael Sams case back in 2014 to enter into the prole-feed propaganda they peddle.

    Are you taking a look at the commercials the NFL channels and the major Networks are packaging along with the football???

    Where the NFL owners have really messed up was moving the St Louis Rams and San Diego Chargers to LA.

    Who wants to go to a game at LA Coliseum in case a race war breaks out???

    • Replies: @Rod1963
    I would never ever attend a game in Los Angeles at any major arena or the LA Coliseum for a number of reasons.

    1) Cost of parking.
    2) Distance of parking lot to entrance
    3) Insane cost of food and drink.
    4) The clientele.
    5) The walk back to the car at night.

    Even if you get free tickets. You are spending roughly $40 for parking, a soda and a dog. F**k that!!

    Unless the LAPD is out there in numbers you are risking your life to watch a bunch of black thugs run around astroturf.

    It's time to let the NFL die.
  125. If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, then Hillary would be President.

    Or if, like Hillary, they come home just to an alleycat and a bottle of white wine.

  126. Anonymous [AKA "Petea"] says:

    Wasn’t Hillary conservative to begin with and later became a Democrat due to pressure from her white male husband?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Wasn’t Hillary conservative to begin with and later became a Democrat due to pressure from her white male husband?
     
    The latest period of time in which the Hildabeast was still conservative was probably back in the womb, before she took on her pro-abortion stance, and she still fed off the non-Federal umbilical cord.

    Most of the pressure on her, politcally-speaking, was from down below:

    Been dazed and confused for so long, it's not true..
    wanted a woman, never bargained for you.
    Lots of people talking, few of them know
    the soul of that woman was created below!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO2n7QoyieM
    , @AB-

    Wasn’t Hillary conservative to begin with and later became a Democrat due to pressure from her white male husband?
     
    She was an AUH2O girl; but shipped off to the lefty college the next year and got radicalized. She didn't hitch her wagon to the prevert until law school....

    Womyn seem to be like clay; they can mold themselves into different shapes and models. Like the way they can switch teams, sexually, in a way that men just can't.
    , @Eagle Eye
    Hillary campaigned for Barry. At the time, there was a kerfuffle because Barry had not been born in a U.S. state. (Arizona was still a territory.)

    After Goldwater lost and Hillary went to college, she became acquainted with the works and wonders of Saul Alinsky about whom she wrote her senior thesis. The rest is history, or rather, her story.

  127. @TheJester
    Family comes first. Women with husbands and sons who have been victimized by the Collective Rath of Angry Women tend to temper their support for feminist causes.

    Examples: A husband who was passed over for promotion so that the company could make its affirmative action numbers. A son who was financially wiped out in a divorce, lost custody of the (grand)children, and is now sleeping on a friend's couch.

    Personal experiences like these can fracture political solidarity among even the most rabid feminists, leaving solidarity to those who, as iSteve points out, live among cats with a taste for chardonnay to anesthetize themselves against their chronic loneliness.

    There is no such thing as a sense of humor among feminists for a reason. They are a sad collection of women who are angry at the world for the hand that Nature (or God) has dealt them.

    Hillary fits this description to a tee.

    Spot on.

  128. Robert Graves had a daughter Lucia. I wondered if this Guardian Lucia is her daughter or another relative?

    It seems not:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/fashion/weddings/lucia-graves-alex-seitz-wald.html

    Daniel B. Edelman, another friend, will lead some Jewish wedding traditions *groan*. . . . . . . . The bride, 31, is a columnist who writes about politics and women’s issues *double groan* for the American editions of The Guardian, the British newspaper, in Washington. She graduated from Oberlin College *triple groan*. She is a daughter of Dr. Julie Baller Graves and Dr. Howard C. B. Graves of Albany, Calif.

    So probably not descended from Robert Graves but quite possibly her name is a nod to his daughter and thus to him.

    • Replies: @DFH
    I guess she doesn't have the problems of being married to a white man then
  129. @YetAnotherAnon
    I've seen snaps in old history books of Hitler being greeted by a crowd of women on some visit - they're ecstatically glowing, gleaming eyes, parted lips, alive and animated. He had power and status, and that's the main thing - plus he'd literally fought his way to his position. I've seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama 's presence.

    Status is better than power for this effect IMHO - a handsome movie star will induce this effect when an equally handsome (but anonymous) business owner with ten times the cash won't.

    But it's gendered turtles all the way down - the CEO might be an ugly slob, but corporate women will still perk up when he's in the room with them.

    Mussolini was a Corbynite type socialist firebrand back in the day. "He made love to any woman who would have him and threatened to rape those who would not" a/c/t Christopher Hibbert's biography.

    He had power and status, and that’s the main thing – plus he’d literally fought his way to his position. I’ve seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama ‘s presence.

    Obama had the power and status. I’m not sure about the fighting part.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    " I’m not sure about the fighting part"

    Surely you recall his many struggles against racism? It was in all the papers and on TV.
    , @Reg Cæsar


    He had power and status, and that’s the main thing – plus he’d literally fought his way to his position. I’ve seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama ‘s presence.
     
    Obama had the power and status. I’m not sure about the fighting part.
     
    Calluses on the knees usually come from other activities, and Larry Sinclair didn't say anything about fights. However, there is the forgotten issue of those three dead gay guys who belonged to his church...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1f57ef/barack_obama_donald_young_larry_bland_nate_spencer/
    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2013/04/04/another-of-obamas-gay-young-men-died-mysteriously/
    http://abc7chicago.com/archive/5854125/

    I do doubt the "literal" part, though.
  130. Kinda reinforces the hateful notion that single white women are anti-civilization. Unless, of course, they are enslaved into hetero marriage to a productive white man and thus subjected to the bludgeoning of patriarchy until the pressure is too much and the lever of democracy is pulled ever-so-slightly to the right of whatever princess of darkness has been pre-ordained to take the reigns of the four horsemen.

    Marriage is ‘problematic’ to the progressive death cult. We already know this. They have been quite above-board with their hostility in this regard. I’m not surprised that feral women vote for ruin, but I am mildly surprised (disgusted) by the number of males who vote for it. In the same way that I am disgusted by males who apparently enjoy watching better men bed their current woman.

    So which is more ‘heartbreaking’? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a “good man” to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    The optimist in me thinks that the openness of their hostility – just as the open-hypergamy signaling being jammed down the throats of would-be husbands, will be their undoing. But this war has many fronts and the big sleep of the gentle white race seems to be deep into REM.

    My anecdote is heartbreaking too. The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating at the time of the election wanted to be married badly. She wanted a kid too. She wanted the life afforded by the surplus productivity of the evil white empire. Like most of her cohort, she wanted to cherry-pick from the traditions and bounties of our culture while simultaneously eroding the foundations that uphold those very things.

    Her personal politics were entrenched. She was incapable or unwilling to break from her feelz long enough to see that everything about her leftist beliefs could be drawn back to the destruction of those very things that she wanted; more specifically, that as a white-male I was the embodied enemy of their diversity multi-culti cult. And that were we to have children, they too would face this.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    Ultimately, I could not pry her loose from her programming. I did not feel that she would truly have my back. She was head-over-heels in love with me but could not see how her love stopped short of putting her faith and duty to work in the protection and preservation of our potential family.

    It wasn’t so much a Trump v. Clinton issue, but the election process did reveal just how entrenched this programming is within the UMC SWF cohort and that many will see civilization burn rather than turn on the sisterhood – or rather, abandon the siren sound of progress in favor of preservation of those very things that have afforded them the privileged and coddled lives they lead.

    I let her go. She will likely find a male who is of like mind. But I doubt she will feel the tingles as he prostrates before the banner of BLM or Hillary or the next iteration. That is the real curse of these women: too long on the marxist gravy train leads to a bland cohabitation with a low-T cog where they pursue their otherism fetishes safely within the Ikea-clad facade of some diversitopia. Or cats.

    • Agree: ATX Hipster
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    That was the best summary of the stupidity of feminism I've read in one comment or post EVER, STS, especially with that personal part inserted in there. Thanks.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    That's sheer poetry.

    BTW, if she wants marriage and a family but hasn't gotten started yet at age 40 she's just about out of runway. I don't see much hope there.
    , @fish
    Can't add much to what Achmed and Harry said about the quality of the post except to congratulate you on "dodging the bullet"…..unfortunately most guys would think that "they could save her".

    They would be wrong.
    , @whorefinder
    In good times, Catholic Church made sure unmarried women were put into convents under direct control of either a strong-willed woman devoted to her religion or else a priest who brooked no female power-climbing. It was not for nothing that they got prostitutes, widows, slutty-women, and "stiff-necked" women into them as soon as they could, instead of letting them roaming free to exert their manipulation and misery on local men.

    As any true-life feminist tale will tell, a company/group of only women---especially single women, who have no family goals to occupy their minds--- will never accomplish anything by themselves beyond backbiting and jealous attacks. This is why it is imperative that single-sex organizations be allowed to flourish again, as the female-only groups will quickly be beset by inertia as they cannot get anything done except gossip and character denigration. It would destroy feminism for the majority of the population.

    , @Roderick Spode
    I like cats...
    , @keuril

    So which is more ‘heartbreaking’? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a “good man” to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?
     
    Overall, a great post; however, here, I think you mean a call, not a put. A call would mean she enjoys whatever upside in net worth her husband may accumulate if she is lucky to land somebody who strikes it rich. A put would be the floor, as in social security or workers comp in the case of disabling injury.
    , @27 year old

    The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating...

    ...were we to have children, they too would
     
    Bro, if you're trying to have children you should be aiming much younger than 40 year olds.

    Great handle, by the way
  131. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Work part time as a delivery driver on what use to be just a couple of decades ago the whitopia of southside Indianapolis.

    Can not tell you the number of downwardly mobile tattooed white women I see with black men. Really sad.

    Lots of white women as they get older will take on a black partner to escape loneliness.

    If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, (((and a Hitachi Magic Wand))) then Hillary would be President.
     
    No I am not kidding. Just as high speed internet and the appearance of Tube site porn is causing mass erectile dysfunction among young males...

    http://fightthenewdrug.org/your-brain-on-porn-gary-wilsons-porn-fighting-ba-website-working/

    High tech vibrators are making it harder for women to orgasm via masturbation, oral sex and intercourse with a partner. There are also a growing number of young women also becoming addicted to porn.

    That is why there is rapidly growing "NOFAP" movement on the internet. And the hardline the Alt-Right is taking against internet porn is attracting lots of young people sick of what degeneracy is doing to their lives.

    Recently James Hetfield of Metallica has gotten involved in an anti-porn documentary

    https://www.traileraddict.com/article/anti-porn-documentary-narrated-metallicas-james-hetfield/

    The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

  132. Oh, no, another mico-aggression on the part of The Guardian! Next time, they should do the decent thing and issue Steve a trigger warning.

    • Troll: slumber_j
  133. @Tiny Duck
    This is exactly why I encourage my female students to date Men of Color.

    The only reason retrograde conservative viewpoints are even in existence is because white children keep being born. If whites engaged in interracial relationships en masse then racism would disappear because white people would not exist

    You were mentioned by iSteve! How do you feel about that?

  134. @njguy73

    If the world were only run by women…

    we’d have a new war every 28 days.
     
    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren't speaking to each other anymore.

    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren’t speaking to each other anymore.

    I lol’d, but you’re clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others. Because women are bad at violence, they don’t do it personally, but if they have a man under their control—whether it be a husband, boyfriend, or (if they are in a position of power) a police officer or bodyguard—they jump at the chance to make the man do violence for her.

    Woman with a loyal violent man at her disposal is a most dangerous psychopath.

    • Agree: L Woods
    • Replies: @DFH

    I lol’d, but you’re clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others.
     
    https://twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/status/912411161915559936
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Because women are bad at violence, they don’t do it personally, but if they have a man under their control...
     
    The pre-suffrage women of Switzerland-- that is, within the lifetime of most of us here-- would say "We vote in bed."

    But let's not forget, throughout the twentieth century, the Republicans were the less warlike party, preferring petty skirmishes in the Philippines and the Caribbean to major transoceanic crusades. And during this time, women were more Republican than were men.

    The only woman in Congress in 1941 was the only member to vote against going to war. Huzzah to her!
    , @guest
    "women love to sic men under their control onto others"

    We call this phenomenon "let's you and him fight."
    , @Joe Franklin
    Reminds me of the typical behavior of women after they call the police while in a domestic fight with their male partner.

    Police know all too well what will happen if they handcuff the man before the woman.

    As soon as the male is handcuffed, the woman goes into a vicious attack mode on the male.

  135. @Jonathan Mason

    ... the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war.
     
    This is actually very interesting.

    In Europe national anthems are not played at sports fixtures between domestic teams, only for international matches. So for example if England play Germany at soccer, the national anthems of each team are played before the match while the players line up and shuffle uneasily,and the national flags are displayed. However it is a fair bet that neither the players nor the spectators are thinking about World Wars I & II, Gallipoli, Dresden, Stalingrad, Auschwitz, Belsen, the Battle of Britain, the Normandy landings, and so on.

    Why is it that US sporting events make people think about people who lost their lives in war? Perhaps they should just stop playing the national anthem before games and play something like Queen's rousing anthem We Are The Champions rather than depressing tunes that remind people of death when they have come out to enjoy themselves.

    So for example if England play Germany at soccer, the national anthems of each team are played before the match while the players line up and shuffle uneasily,and the national flags are displayed. However it is a fair bet that neither the players nor the spectators are thinking about World Wars I & II, Gallipoli, Dresden, Stalingrad, Auschwitz, Belsen, the Battle of Britain, the Normandy landings, and so on.

    That’s a bet I’d take…

  136. “White, heterosexual and married.”

    Some say she’s only two out of three. And is that what you’d call “married”?

  137. @Lurker
    Robert Graves had a daughter Lucia. I wondered if this Guardian Lucia is her daughter or another relative?

    It seems not:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/fashion/weddings/lucia-graves-alex-seitz-wald.html

    Daniel B. Edelman, another friend, will lead some Jewish wedding traditions *groan*. . . . . . . . The bride, 31, is a columnist who writes about politics and women’s issues *double groan* for the American editions of The Guardian, the British newspaper, in Washington. She graduated from Oberlin College *triple groan*. She is a daughter of Dr. Julie Baller Graves and Dr. Howard C. B. Graves of Albany, Calif.

    So probably not descended from Robert Graves but quite possibly her name is a nod to his daughter and thus to him.

    I guess she doesn’t have the problems of being married to a white man then

  138. So, women have no agency and are easily influenced by their men? I agree but I don’t think this fits the Wonder Woman narrative that we are also independent, @ss-kicking warriors.

  139. @Coemgen

    The NFL needs to investigate whether or not there is a conspiracy amongst its players to display unsportsmanlike conduct towards its patriotic fans and its host country.

  140. @AM

    falsifies my theory about exposure to different ideas
     
    Married women who stay married have a set of priorities and coping skills that are not found in single women. It's not exposure to different ideas in so much as it is rising to meet a situation. Women who divorce have failed to meet the situation.

    I believe at one point in time, in the early 20th century, there was a huge push to get every woman married (a historical abnormality in the West) because people noticed the correlation.

    It was bit like getting everyone into college today with the typical results.

    We'd be better off removing women's suffrage or only extending 1 vote to formally married households.

    We’d be better off removing women’s suffrage or only extending 1 vote to formally married households.

    Do you mean like “OK, I get the truck, the jet-skis, and the vote, and you get the house and the kids and the divorce lawyer”?

    With the bozos selected for us to vote on now, I’ll take the kid (even if he is also a bozo too, he’s my bozo).

    • Replies: @AM

    Do you mean like “OK, I get the truck, the jet-skis, and the vote, and you get the house and the kids and the divorce lawyer”?
     
    Yes, because married men vote the way I want them to. I'm not egalitarian in my motives. :)

    I'd also remove their one collective vote if they divorced. It would be a way to keep no-fault divorce if we insist (although I'd get rid of that one, too) and reward people who manage to at least figure out how to live with someone else.
  141. @njguy73

    If the world were only run by women…

    we’d have a new war every 28 days.
     
    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren't speaking to each other anymore.

    LOL from both of you.

  142. @whorefinder

    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren’t speaking to each other anymore.
     
    I lol'd, but you're clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others. Because women are bad at violence, they don't do it personally, but if they have a man under their control---whether it be a husband, boyfriend, or (if they are in a position of power) a police officer or bodyguard---they jump at the chance to make the man do violence for her.

    Woman with a loyal violent man at her disposal is a most dangerous psychopath.

    I lol’d, but you’re clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others.

    https://twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/status/912411161915559936

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    Gotta love the accusations at the end of the clip:

    You're still White! You're still responsible! You're inherently racist!

    It's in your blood! It's in your DNA!

     

    So evil races exist, just switch the colors.
  143. Trump is an alpha male, no surprise that plenty of women voted for him:

    View post on imgur.com

  144. I think it’s more that women innately focus on being empathetic and just assume that their menfolk will deal security. Nobody understands this explicitly but you can clearly see that young women do not bother thinking about questions of foreign policy or the security of their nation the way even men who openly preach our new religion do.

    Once they have children they tend to become more ethnocentric because their child and it’s safety is now directly their responsibility. Additionally they may adopt a more realist stance of their partner as, in a sense, his attitude gives her a permission to think this way that her female social network doesn’t and see implicitly likes him thinking this way to protect them.

  145. @The Last Real Calvinist

    But that wouldn’t fit the bias that women have no agency and are pressured into voting conservative.

     

    You must remember that only straight white men have agency, and hence they can be held responsible for everything.

    The funniest part of the this article is the tacit admission that while horrid white men influence their women, those same women are powerless when it comes to influencing their men.

    “Why isn’t it the other way round” is about the most important question you can ask if you want to understand anything. Which is why you can’t remember it being asked, ever.

    Why don’t Moslimas force Muslims to wear veils?

    Why didn’t Africans colonize Europe?

    • Replies: @Seneca
    Thanks. Great comment.

    The use of counterfactuals (as you suggest) are an outstanding intellectual tactic for understanding the world around you. As you suggest, it is very useful to ask yourself why are things as they are and not otherwise (A rather than not A!). It sounds simple but most people do not bother doing it much.

    Another useful type of counterfactual that helps one to understanding things and improve your life, is to ask yourself, especially when unhappy, "what would really make me happy? or what would be the best of all possible worlds?"

    You will probably discover that some people or situations are disappointing you in ways that you were taking for granted but which are changeable. Too many people take their environment and the behavior of people for granted.

    You might end up improving your life by talking to these people or trying to change the situation or changing yourself or even finding new people or situations. Or you may even decide to adapt to the disappointments and learn to live with them depending on your current circumstances.

    A corollary which is an antonym of this, is that when things are going good you might ask yourself "what would make me unhappy now." This might remind you to be good to your loved ones and to shore up relationships even when they don't seem to need tending to (and BTW they always do need tending to).

    Anyone else have any useful brief tips or mental tools, heuristics, or attitudes, for getting along in the world?

    Don't want to hijack the thread, but a few useful ideas would be great.

  146. @Patrick in SC

    “the clearest, most heartbreaking validation of our article that I had ever heard”.
     
    "Heartbreaking."

    If only so many of these poor women weren't married to awful men, coal miners no less! Our utopian future would be just around the corner.

    Richard Burton on coal miners:

    The whole thing is good, by the way.

  147. @bomag

    So, we are to think that it’s great that practically all blacks vote on the basis of race, and terrible that some females don’t vote on the basis of sex.
     
    This is the monomania of the political left: they want 100%. They'll flog and marginalize the 46% of women who don't get it; then they'll move on to the next group. The 5% of Blacks who didn't vote for Obama?: "First, they came for the women..."

    In essence this all that the liberal-progressives are about. They want to smash all social obstacles into small enough pieces to allow them to freely do whatever they want, wherever they want. They want to flow smoothly through the rest of us the way kids do in one of those playrooms filled with multicoloured balls. Any countries, families, traditions, religions, languages or personal loyalties that cause friction or blockage have to go. Modern capitalists are no different from the lefties when it comes to this. That’s why they get along so well now.

  148. @Tiny Duck
    This is exactly why I encourage my female students to date Men of Color.

    The only reason retrograde conservative viewpoints are even in existence is because white children keep being born. If whites engaged in interracial relationships en masse then racism would disappear because white people would not exist

    So, throw this white male a bone: next time I plow a Woman of Darker Color, do I applaud her contribution to racial justice, or do I tell her what a naughty, subversive female Uncle Tom she is as she moans? I can’t seem to figure it out.

    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    With your attitude I doubt very seriously you have ever touched a woman, let alone a Woman of Color
  149. @Anonymous
    Wasn’t Hillary conservative to begin with and later became a Democrat due to pressure from her white male husband?

    Wasn’t Hillary conservative to begin with and later became a Democrat due to pressure from her white male husband?

    The latest period of time in which the Hildabeast was still conservative was probably back in the womb, before she took on her pro-abortion stance, and she still fed off the non-Federal umbilical cord.

    Most of the pressure on her, politcally-speaking, was from down below:

    Been dazed and confused for so long, it’s not true..
    wanted a woman, never bargained for you.
    Lots of people talking, few of them know
    the soul of that woman was created below!

  150. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Work part time as a delivery driver on what use to be just a couple of decades ago the whitopia of southside Indianapolis.

    Can not tell you the number of downwardly mobile tattooed white women I see with black men. Really sad.

    Lots of white women as they get older will take on a black partner to escape loneliness.

    If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, (((and a Hitachi Magic Wand))) then Hillary would be President.
     
    No I am not kidding. Just as high speed internet and the appearance of Tube site porn is causing mass erectile dysfunction among young males...

    http://fightthenewdrug.org/your-brain-on-porn-gary-wilsons-porn-fighting-ba-website-working/

    High tech vibrators are making it harder for women to orgasm via masturbation, oral sex and intercourse with a partner. There are also a growing number of young women also becoming addicted to porn.

    That is why there is rapidly growing "NOFAP" movement on the internet. And the hardline the Alt-Right is taking against internet porn is attracting lots of young people sick of what degeneracy is doing to their lives.

    Recently James Hetfield of Metallica has gotten involved in an anti-porn documentary

    https://www.traileraddict.com/article/anti-porn-documentary-narrated-metallicas-james-hetfield/

    If what you say is true, then that isn’t very flattering to black men. White women want a white husband with white children and all that goes with it. That means they want a man who makes a good middle class income and they live in a nice house in a good neighborhood.

    These are the things that women in the past have desired and women of today do so also. But of course not everyone succeeds. Many white women in their best sexually attractive years can’t get these things. Then they settle for a vibrator or a black man. So black men are seen as a substitute for a “Magic Wand”. This is not a flattering picture of black men.

    As a white man I have never had much trouble getting white women. You just have to be organized and diligent. It is not particularly hard to get women. It is much easier for example than getting rich. The simple reason is that women want to be ‘gotten’. But some individuals like the person who calls himself Whiskey seems to have had a lot of trouble finding women. He and a few like him have allowed their social failures to color their political thinking. Black men are not going to get all the white women. There are cases of black sports millionaires getting good looking blondes. That sort of thing gets reported in the media but it is a tiny phenomenon.

    Blacks are doing very badly. They are making no progress in school or on the job. The only place where they seem to prosper is in TV commercials. All the money spent by the government to elevate blacks seems to have been wasted. Blacks are no more equal today than they were when I was a kid – before the Civil Rights movement. So the next time blacks get restless, as they do periodically, they will find that whitey has no more fanciful theories that account for the failures of blacks. Liberal optimism is being ground down by reality.

    • Replies: @grapesoda
    Hey look, it's another Boomer who thinks his views on women are still relevant.

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/old-economy-steven

    It's not a question of whether one can get women, it's a question of whether they are worthy of the attention. And most of them aren't. Until cucks like you start putting women in their place, they're not going to start behaving properly. You are reinforcing bad behavior by giving women what they want (attention).

    In non-Anglo countries, it's a different story. But almost all Anglo women under 40 are toxic. There are some decent working class ones, but generally one is not going to meet them in middle class settings such as corporations, universities, and coastal cities ie where all the action is.
    , @L Woods
    Boomersplaining needs to be a thing. You saw it here first. Can we get a tag?
    , @ATX Hipster
    Visit the deep south. There is a very noticeable class aspect to interracial relationships.

    Trashy people are essentially defined by their lack of long-term thinking. It's the reason they're trashy. There's no rational decision-making process taking place wherein some obese woman with a tramp stamp realizes no white man will take her and decides to buy a vibrator to occupy her until she can find a black guy. Nor do they think of it as "settling" - these women tend to prefer dating black men, often exclusively.

    I've wondered occasionally if whatever genes cause a preference for r-selection over K-selection are more common in the white people that settled the southeast. Maybe it's just the tendency to be overweight among lower income people - chubby girls get lots of attention from black dudes during sexually formative years and end up with a strong preference.
  151. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jason Liu
    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn't 54% an astonishingly low support for one's race? I could see the Alt-Right complaining how too few white women voted for Trump, but the left seems to be one step ahead in their rhetoric.

    Either way, it's good to see a leftist outlet admit partially that white women are the most radical, sheltered, and fearful leftists. This is the most immature group of people on the planet. And in my experience it spans many generations, all the way up to old white grannies.

    I get a lot of shit from the white right for trashing their women all the time, but if it wasn't for the white female demographic, the SJW movement would basically be dead in the water. White women are far more numerous and have much more social and cultural power than blacks or Muslims or whatever. And they're more likely to genuinely believe in lovey dovey "empathy" bullshit than actual minorities, who tend to be more traditional and use liberal politics as a means of self-interest rather than ideological agreement.

    Have a look at who shows up in far left rallies, who populates social justice activist groups, who teaches your kids about trannies, who rewrites your history in the humanities department, who makes the most over-the-top attacks on masculinity, and so on. It's mostly your white wives, daughters, mothers, and sisters. The culture they spread is a danger to humanity in general, not just white majority countries. You need to check them before some outside group comes in and does it for you.

    Lol, this was a great comment! And SJWism makes white women seem so much more unfeminine. And coincident with the SJWism, young white women nowadays dress slovenly and have all but given up trying to be feminine and seductive. At most they phone it in. And when they try to be feminine and seductive they go right to slutty. From sweat pants, t-shirt, and unkempt hair to tight, short black dress, heavy eyeliner, and lots of hairspray. Someone commented about how their regular travel to Japan opened their eyes to what frumpy-dumpies white women in the West have become.

    I think if white women took some lessons on femininity and seductiveness from Asian women the West wouldn’t have a declining white population. But this doesn’t seem like a possibility. So, life’s a bitch and then you marry one.

  152. @ScrewtapeSessions
    Kinda reinforces the hateful notion that single white women are anti-civilization. Unless, of course, they are enslaved into hetero marriage to a productive white man and thus subjected to the bludgeoning of patriarchy until the pressure is too much and the lever of democracy is pulled ever-so-slightly to the right of whatever princess of darkness has been pre-ordained to take the reigns of the four horsemen.

    Marriage is 'problematic' to the progressive death cult. We already know this. They have been quite above-board with their hostility in this regard. I'm not surprised that feral women vote for ruin, but I am mildly surprised (disgusted) by the number of males who vote for it. In the same way that I am disgusted by males who apparently enjoy watching better men bed their current woman.

    So which is more 'heartbreaking'? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a "good man" to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    The optimist in me thinks that the openness of their hostility - just as the open-hypergamy signaling being jammed down the throats of would-be husbands, will be their undoing. But this war has many fronts and the big sleep of the gentle white race seems to be deep into REM.

    My anecdote is heartbreaking too. The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating at the time of the election wanted to be married badly. She wanted a kid too. She wanted the life afforded by the surplus productivity of the evil white empire. Like most of her cohort, she wanted to cherry-pick from the traditions and bounties of our culture while simultaneously eroding the foundations that uphold those very things.

    Her personal politics were entrenched. She was incapable or unwilling to break from her feelz long enough to see that everything about her leftist beliefs could be drawn back to the destruction of those very things that she wanted; more specifically, that as a white-male I was the embodied enemy of their diversity multi-culti cult. And that were we to have children, they too would face this.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    Ultimately, I could not pry her loose from her programming. I did not feel that she would truly have my back. She was head-over-heels in love with me but could not see how her love stopped short of putting her faith and duty to work in the protection and preservation of our potential family.

    It wasn't so much a Trump v. Clinton issue, but the election process did reveal just how entrenched this programming is within the UMC SWF cohort and that many will see civilization burn rather than turn on the sisterhood - or rather, abandon the siren sound of progress in favor of preservation of those very things that have afforded them the privileged and coddled lives they lead.

    I let her go. She will likely find a male who is of like mind. But I doubt she will feel the tingles as he prostrates before the banner of BLM or Hillary or the next iteration. That is the real curse of these women: too long on the marxist gravy train leads to a bland cohabitation with a low-T cog where they pursue their otherism fetishes safely within the Ikea-clad facade of some diversitopia. Or cats.

    That was the best summary of the stupidity of feminism I’ve read in one comment or post EVER, STS, especially with that personal part inserted in there. Thanks.

  153. @Lurker

    He had power and status, and that’s the main thing – plus he’d literally fought his way to his position. I’ve seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama ‘s presence.
     
    Obama had the power and status. I'm not sure about the fighting part.

    ” I’m not sure about the fighting part”

    Surely you recall his many struggles against racism? It was in all the papers and on TV.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Lurker
    Of course. Most remiss of me.
  154. @DJohn1
    You're trying too hard, and the verbiage you're using is still too complex.

    Note how Trump uses fourth grade language, and is massively persuasive for it.

    Simplify.

    I would suggest "San Francisco Bigots."

    so may be rather frisco bigots…

  155. @whorefinder
    If the world were only run by women...

    we'd have a new war every 28 days.

    followed by complaining that no one was changing the oil correctly in the tanks and air planes.

    And each nation would be bankrupt after a year as all national budgets would be donated to that Sarah McLachlan-son-supported ASPCA commercial.

    more like in the bush veld fighting with hyenas for rotting carcasses

  156. @DFH
    One cause at least might be that men were (unlike women) involved in trade unions and as a consequence left-wing politics, whetheras no similar route existed for women.
    There's actually a similar general pattern of greater female support for right-wing parties in Europe post-war as well iirc (e.g. more women voted for the Conservatives in Britain, and the Christian Democrats in Italy)

    There’s actually a similar general pattern of greater female support for right-wing parties in Europe post-war as well iirc

    And the biggest reverse gender gap was in France–the biggest reason female suffrage didn’t come until 1945. There’s a famous story about someone asking French Premier Leon Blum just before the war how he, as head of the supposedly progressive Popular Front government, could justify keeping women away from the ballot box. “Because they’d vote us out of office,” was his unguarded answer.

  157. @Pericles
    Worthless in HR
    Parasite progs
    The Fat and the Furious
    The sinecure left
    The slut shamed
    Campus trash
    Ivy League downtrodden
    Snow White and the Seven AA admits
    Negroes above the Law

    Campus trash ftw, it’s short and has a ring to it, goes well shit studies. The rest is funny but again, not necessarily Joe Blow-compatible.

    > sinecure left
    IMO we can’t go full Anglo-Norman on Joe B., plum job left might be better though that’s too long. Also, not aggressive enough. (while negroe/parasite is too bad)

  158. @eah
    https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/911306698635317249

    Failed U.S. Oligarch Hillary Clinton is reduced to hectoring cripples and freaks, while hawking her books at low-rent “dime store” Costco.

    So now I have to go to a spoof of a fake news site to get accurate headlines?!

  159. @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    The league is the force of political correctness. This isn’t cravenness, it’s brazen contempt.

  160. @Pat Boyle
    If what you say is true, then that isn't very flattering to black men. White women want a white husband with white children and all that goes with it. That means they want a man who makes a good middle class income and they live in a nice house in a good neighborhood.

    These are the things that women in the past have desired and women of today do so also. But of course not everyone succeeds. Many white women in their best sexually attractive years can't get these things. Then they settle for a vibrator or a black man. So black men are seen as a substitute for a "Magic Wand". This is not a flattering picture of black men.

    As a white man I have never had much trouble getting white women. You just have to be organized and diligent. It is not particularly hard to get women. It is much easier for example than getting rich. The simple reason is that women want to be 'gotten'. But some individuals like the person who calls himself Whiskey seems to have had a lot of trouble finding women. He and a few like him have allowed their social failures to color their political thinking. Black men are not going to get all the white women. There are cases of black sports millionaires getting good looking blondes. That sort of thing gets reported in the media but it is a tiny phenomenon.

    Blacks are doing very badly. They are making no progress in school or on the job. The only place where they seem to prosper is in TV commercials. All the money spent by the government to elevate blacks seems to have been wasted. Blacks are no more equal today than they were when I was a kid - before the Civil Rights movement. So the next time blacks get restless, as they do periodically, they will find that whitey has no more fanciful theories that account for the failures of blacks. Liberal optimism is being ground down by reality.

    Hey look, it’s another Boomer who thinks his views on women are still relevant.

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/old-economy-steven

    It’s not a question of whether one can get women, it’s a question of whether they are worthy of the attention. And most of them aren’t. Until cucks like you start putting women in their place, they’re not going to start behaving properly. You are reinforcing bad behavior by giving women what they want (attention).

    In non-Anglo countries, it’s a different story. But almost all Anglo women under 40 are toxic. There are some decent working class ones, but generally one is not going to meet them in middle class settings such as corporations, universities, and coastal cities ie where all the action is.

  161. Women who have male loved ones are often exposed t rational thought. It makes a difference.

    • LOL: ATX Hipster
    • Replies: @Flip
    Yes. There's a reason for "mansplaining."
  162. Give the ideas in this article a positive rather than a negative spin, add in some vulgarity and a reference to pre-pubescent girls, it could have been a Jim post.

    Far right and far left always converge on the social facts, they just disagree on whether the facts are to be venerated or destroyed.

  163. @ScrewtapeSessions
    Kinda reinforces the hateful notion that single white women are anti-civilization. Unless, of course, they are enslaved into hetero marriage to a productive white man and thus subjected to the bludgeoning of patriarchy until the pressure is too much and the lever of democracy is pulled ever-so-slightly to the right of whatever princess of darkness has been pre-ordained to take the reigns of the four horsemen.

    Marriage is 'problematic' to the progressive death cult. We already know this. They have been quite above-board with their hostility in this regard. I'm not surprised that feral women vote for ruin, but I am mildly surprised (disgusted) by the number of males who vote for it. In the same way that I am disgusted by males who apparently enjoy watching better men bed their current woman.

    So which is more 'heartbreaking'? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a "good man" to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    The optimist in me thinks that the openness of their hostility - just as the open-hypergamy signaling being jammed down the throats of would-be husbands, will be their undoing. But this war has many fronts and the big sleep of the gentle white race seems to be deep into REM.

    My anecdote is heartbreaking too. The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating at the time of the election wanted to be married badly. She wanted a kid too. She wanted the life afforded by the surplus productivity of the evil white empire. Like most of her cohort, she wanted to cherry-pick from the traditions and bounties of our culture while simultaneously eroding the foundations that uphold those very things.

    Her personal politics were entrenched. She was incapable or unwilling to break from her feelz long enough to see that everything about her leftist beliefs could be drawn back to the destruction of those very things that she wanted; more specifically, that as a white-male I was the embodied enemy of their diversity multi-culti cult. And that were we to have children, they too would face this.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    Ultimately, I could not pry her loose from her programming. I did not feel that she would truly have my back. She was head-over-heels in love with me but could not see how her love stopped short of putting her faith and duty to work in the protection and preservation of our potential family.

    It wasn't so much a Trump v. Clinton issue, but the election process did reveal just how entrenched this programming is within the UMC SWF cohort and that many will see civilization burn rather than turn on the sisterhood - or rather, abandon the siren sound of progress in favor of preservation of those very things that have afforded them the privileged and coddled lives they lead.

    I let her go. She will likely find a male who is of like mind. But I doubt she will feel the tingles as he prostrates before the banner of BLM or Hillary or the next iteration. That is the real curse of these women: too long on the marxist gravy train leads to a bland cohabitation with a low-T cog where they pursue their otherism fetishes safely within the Ikea-clad facade of some diversitopia. Or cats.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    That’s sheer poetry.

    BTW, if she wants marriage and a family but hasn’t gotten started yet at age 40 she’s just about out of runway. I don’t see much hope there.

    • Agree: Thea
  164. @njguy73

    If the world were only run by women…

    we’d have a new war every 28 days.
     
    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren't speaking to each other anymore.

    The type of women who crave power aren’t like the type of women who don’t want war.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    All women crave power; as they are more the sociopathic sex as a rule, their bloodlust is higher on average, and those in positions of power will be more sociopathic than the men at their level and more open to bloodlust.
  165. @Pat Boyle
    If what you say is true, then that isn't very flattering to black men. White women want a white husband with white children and all that goes with it. That means they want a man who makes a good middle class income and they live in a nice house in a good neighborhood.

    These are the things that women in the past have desired and women of today do so also. But of course not everyone succeeds. Many white women in their best sexually attractive years can't get these things. Then they settle for a vibrator or a black man. So black men are seen as a substitute for a "Magic Wand". This is not a flattering picture of black men.

    As a white man I have never had much trouble getting white women. You just have to be organized and diligent. It is not particularly hard to get women. It is much easier for example than getting rich. The simple reason is that women want to be 'gotten'. But some individuals like the person who calls himself Whiskey seems to have had a lot of trouble finding women. He and a few like him have allowed their social failures to color their political thinking. Black men are not going to get all the white women. There are cases of black sports millionaires getting good looking blondes. That sort of thing gets reported in the media but it is a tiny phenomenon.

    Blacks are doing very badly. They are making no progress in school or on the job. The only place where they seem to prosper is in TV commercials. All the money spent by the government to elevate blacks seems to have been wasted. Blacks are no more equal today than they were when I was a kid - before the Civil Rights movement. So the next time blacks get restless, as they do periodically, they will find that whitey has no more fanciful theories that account for the failures of blacks. Liberal optimism is being ground down by reality.

    Boomersplaining needs to be a thing. You saw it here first. Can we get a tag?

  166. Men might take feminism more seriously if women believed women have agency.

  167. @ScrewtapeSessions
    Kinda reinforces the hateful notion that single white women are anti-civilization. Unless, of course, they are enslaved into hetero marriage to a productive white man and thus subjected to the bludgeoning of patriarchy until the pressure is too much and the lever of democracy is pulled ever-so-slightly to the right of whatever princess of darkness has been pre-ordained to take the reigns of the four horsemen.

    Marriage is 'problematic' to the progressive death cult. We already know this. They have been quite above-board with their hostility in this regard. I'm not surprised that feral women vote for ruin, but I am mildly surprised (disgusted) by the number of males who vote for it. In the same way that I am disgusted by males who apparently enjoy watching better men bed their current woman.

    So which is more 'heartbreaking'? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a "good man" to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    The optimist in me thinks that the openness of their hostility - just as the open-hypergamy signaling being jammed down the throats of would-be husbands, will be their undoing. But this war has many fronts and the big sleep of the gentle white race seems to be deep into REM.

    My anecdote is heartbreaking too. The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating at the time of the election wanted to be married badly. She wanted a kid too. She wanted the life afforded by the surplus productivity of the evil white empire. Like most of her cohort, she wanted to cherry-pick from the traditions and bounties of our culture while simultaneously eroding the foundations that uphold those very things.

    Her personal politics were entrenched. She was incapable or unwilling to break from her feelz long enough to see that everything about her leftist beliefs could be drawn back to the destruction of those very things that she wanted; more specifically, that as a white-male I was the embodied enemy of their diversity multi-culti cult. And that were we to have children, they too would face this.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    Ultimately, I could not pry her loose from her programming. I did not feel that she would truly have my back. She was head-over-heels in love with me but could not see how her love stopped short of putting her faith and duty to work in the protection and preservation of our potential family.

    It wasn't so much a Trump v. Clinton issue, but the election process did reveal just how entrenched this programming is within the UMC SWF cohort and that many will see civilization burn rather than turn on the sisterhood - or rather, abandon the siren sound of progress in favor of preservation of those very things that have afforded them the privileged and coddled lives they lead.

    I let her go. She will likely find a male who is of like mind. But I doubt she will feel the tingles as he prostrates before the banner of BLM or Hillary or the next iteration. That is the real curse of these women: too long on the marxist gravy train leads to a bland cohabitation with a low-T cog where they pursue their otherism fetishes safely within the Ikea-clad facade of some diversitopia. Or cats.

    Can’t add much to what Achmed and Harry said about the quality of the post except to congratulate you on “dodging the bullet”…..unfortunately most guys would think that “they could save her”.

    They would be wrong.

  168. @Tiny Duck
    This is exactly why I encourage my female students to date Men of Color.

    The only reason retrograde conservative viewpoints are even in existence is because white children keep being born. If whites engaged in interracial relationships en masse then racism would disappear because white people would not exist

    ” This is exactly the reason I encourage my female students to date men of color”

    ” My female students” : Who are you trying to fool? You have never had a “Student” in your pathetic life.

    You are obviously a very sick person and have nothing but blatent lunacy to express.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.

  169. @Harry Baldwin
    The type of women who crave power aren't like the type of women who don't want war.

    All women crave power; as they are more the sociopathic sex as a rule, their bloodlust is higher on average, and those in positions of power will be more sociopathic than the men at their level and more open to bloodlust.

  170. @Yan Shen

    If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, then Hillary would be President.
     
    But according to our uh good friend Whiskey, every woman in America will soon be coming home to a sexy, sexy black man. And watch out, once sub-Saharan Africa spews its 21st century population explosion across the rest of the world, we'll soon all be caramel like former president Barack Obama. I mean just look at how uh African dudes are already cleaning up in Europe. Can you imagine if there were another 50-100 million of them there?

    It's sexy, sexy black men all the way down...

    Rather low-brow trolling there, Yan.

    To more accurately reflect Whiskey’s sentiments: every woman in America will soon be waiting at home for a sexy alpha male who never shows up. It is Monica Lewinskys all the way down.

  171. White women withstood a withering attack of White-guilt and Feminist-guilt propaganda from the corporate media. White women stood strong and they did not waver in their grim determination to prevent that horrible harpy Hillary Clinton from slithering into the White House. White women gave 53 percent of their vote to Trump. White women were patriotic heroes who deserve our gratitude.

    White women knew that the filthy baby boomer harridan Hillary Clinton was a treasonous globalizer who wanted to destroy the United States. White women knew that Hillary Clinton wanted to erase the borders of the United States. White women rejected the false siren song of the s0-called “sisterhood” and they voted for Trump.

    White women voted to reduce legal immigration, to deport illegal alien invaders and to build a wall on the border. White women voted to scrap the sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams that send jobs to other nations. White women voted to put an end to the unnecessary overseas wars that waste blood and treasure.

    GOD BLESS WHITE WOMEN TRUMP VOTERS!

  172. @nebulafox
    Also, one of those awkward, never-discussed facts about history was that the post-1919 Adolf Hitler was quite attractive to women. His charisma included a certain sexual one. He was a bachelor who was portrayed as a terribly lonely genius completely dedicated to Germany. Although he probably never racked up the bed count of some of his more extroverted and less neurotic dictatorial colleagues (Mussolini being a prime example), he pretty consistently had a series of mistresses from the early 1920s onward-along with, in the early days in Munich, sexual encounters with young female followers.

    People tend to love what they can't have, and with sex, it's no different.

    Braun’s friends and relatives described Eva giggling over a 1938 photograph of Neville Chamberlain sitting on a sofa in Hitler’s Munich flat with the remark: “If only he knew what goings-on that sofa has seen.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Braun#Relationship_with_Hitler

  173. @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues

    The Penguins are still going to the White House. The NHL has never really had player behavior problems on the scale of the NFL, and hasn’t to my knowledge felt the need to engage in diversity virtue signaling.

    I leave it to you to puzzle out what’s going on there.

  174. @ScrewtapeSessions
    Kinda reinforces the hateful notion that single white women are anti-civilization. Unless, of course, they are enslaved into hetero marriage to a productive white man and thus subjected to the bludgeoning of patriarchy until the pressure is too much and the lever of democracy is pulled ever-so-slightly to the right of whatever princess of darkness has been pre-ordained to take the reigns of the four horsemen.

    Marriage is 'problematic' to the progressive death cult. We already know this. They have been quite above-board with their hostility in this regard. I'm not surprised that feral women vote for ruin, but I am mildly surprised (disgusted) by the number of males who vote for it. In the same way that I am disgusted by males who apparently enjoy watching better men bed their current woman.

    So which is more 'heartbreaking'? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a "good man" to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    The optimist in me thinks that the openness of their hostility - just as the open-hypergamy signaling being jammed down the throats of would-be husbands, will be their undoing. But this war has many fronts and the big sleep of the gentle white race seems to be deep into REM.

    My anecdote is heartbreaking too. The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating at the time of the election wanted to be married badly. She wanted a kid too. She wanted the life afforded by the surplus productivity of the evil white empire. Like most of her cohort, she wanted to cherry-pick from the traditions and bounties of our culture while simultaneously eroding the foundations that uphold those very things.

    Her personal politics were entrenched. She was incapable or unwilling to break from her feelz long enough to see that everything about her leftist beliefs could be drawn back to the destruction of those very things that she wanted; more specifically, that as a white-male I was the embodied enemy of their diversity multi-culti cult. And that were we to have children, they too would face this.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    Ultimately, I could not pry her loose from her programming. I did not feel that she would truly have my back. She was head-over-heels in love with me but could not see how her love stopped short of putting her faith and duty to work in the protection and preservation of our potential family.

    It wasn't so much a Trump v. Clinton issue, but the election process did reveal just how entrenched this programming is within the UMC SWF cohort and that many will see civilization burn rather than turn on the sisterhood - or rather, abandon the siren sound of progress in favor of preservation of those very things that have afforded them the privileged and coddled lives they lead.

    I let her go. She will likely find a male who is of like mind. But I doubt she will feel the tingles as he prostrates before the banner of BLM or Hillary or the next iteration. That is the real curse of these women: too long on the marxist gravy train leads to a bland cohabitation with a low-T cog where they pursue their otherism fetishes safely within the Ikea-clad facade of some diversitopia. Or cats.

    In good times, Catholic Church made sure unmarried women were put into convents under direct control of either a strong-willed woman devoted to her religion or else a priest who brooked no female power-climbing. It was not for nothing that they got prostitutes, widows, slutty-women, and “stiff-necked” women into them as soon as they could, instead of letting them roaming free to exert their manipulation and misery on local men.

    As any true-life feminist tale will tell, a company/group of only women—especially single women, who have no family goals to occupy their minds— will never accomplish anything by themselves beyond backbiting and jealous attacks. This is why it is imperative that single-sex organizations be allowed to flourish again, as the female-only groups will quickly be beset by inertia as they cannot get anything done except gossip and character denigration. It would destroy feminism for the majority of the population.

  175. @ScrewtapeSessions
    Kinda reinforces the hateful notion that single white women are anti-civilization. Unless, of course, they are enslaved into hetero marriage to a productive white man and thus subjected to the bludgeoning of patriarchy until the pressure is too much and the lever of democracy is pulled ever-so-slightly to the right of whatever princess of darkness has been pre-ordained to take the reigns of the four horsemen.

    Marriage is 'problematic' to the progressive death cult. We already know this. They have been quite above-board with their hostility in this regard. I'm not surprised that feral women vote for ruin, but I am mildly surprised (disgusted) by the number of males who vote for it. In the same way that I am disgusted by males who apparently enjoy watching better men bed their current woman.

    So which is more 'heartbreaking'? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a "good man" to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    The optimist in me thinks that the openness of their hostility - just as the open-hypergamy signaling being jammed down the throats of would-be husbands, will be their undoing. But this war has many fronts and the big sleep of the gentle white race seems to be deep into REM.

    My anecdote is heartbreaking too. The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating at the time of the election wanted to be married badly. She wanted a kid too. She wanted the life afforded by the surplus productivity of the evil white empire. Like most of her cohort, she wanted to cherry-pick from the traditions and bounties of our culture while simultaneously eroding the foundations that uphold those very things.

    Her personal politics were entrenched. She was incapable or unwilling to break from her feelz long enough to see that everything about her leftist beliefs could be drawn back to the destruction of those very things that she wanted; more specifically, that as a white-male I was the embodied enemy of their diversity multi-culti cult. And that were we to have children, they too would face this.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    Ultimately, I could not pry her loose from her programming. I did not feel that she would truly have my back. She was head-over-heels in love with me but could not see how her love stopped short of putting her faith and duty to work in the protection and preservation of our potential family.

    It wasn't so much a Trump v. Clinton issue, but the election process did reveal just how entrenched this programming is within the UMC SWF cohort and that many will see civilization burn rather than turn on the sisterhood - or rather, abandon the siren sound of progress in favor of preservation of those very things that have afforded them the privileged and coddled lives they lead.

    I let her go. She will likely find a male who is of like mind. But I doubt she will feel the tingles as he prostrates before the banner of BLM or Hillary or the next iteration. That is the real curse of these women: too long on the marxist gravy train leads to a bland cohabitation with a low-T cog where they pursue their otherism fetishes safely within the Ikea-clad facade of some diversitopia. Or cats.

    I like cats…

  176. Nearly a year on, and the prog-left is still discussing What Happened. Can’t we just Move On…

  177. @nebulafox
    Also, one of those awkward, never-discussed facts about history was that the post-1919 Adolf Hitler was quite attractive to women. His charisma included a certain sexual one. He was a bachelor who was portrayed as a terribly lonely genius completely dedicated to Germany. Although he probably never racked up the bed count of some of his more extroverted and less neurotic dictatorial colleagues (Mussolini being a prime example), he pretty consistently had a series of mistresses from the early 1920s onward-along with, in the early days in Munich, sexual encounters with young female followers.

    People tend to love what they can't have, and with sex, it's no different.

    Being famous and powerful is catnip to women, so whether it was Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin or Roosevelt or Churchill or Obama or Kennedy or Nixon or Bill Clinton, you can bet your bottom dollar women would swoon in their presence. Add to that a politician’s learned charm and you have a powerful trifecta, as Henry Kissinger spoke of (“Power is the greatest aphrodesiac”). And if he’s ever on a stage….

    Witness today’s lefty women admitting on Twitter how they keep having sex fantasies/dreams about Trump.

  178. @nebulafox
    So, throw this white male a bone: next time I plow a Woman of Darker Color, do I applaud her contribution to racial justice, or do I tell her what a naughty, subversive female Uncle Tom she is as she moans? I can't seem to figure it out.

    With your attitude I doubt very seriously you have ever touched a woman, let alone a Woman of Color

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Why would I want to touch a WoC when there are so many beautiful white women?

    You can have my share TD.

  179. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    “OT–I try to come up with a new term for lefties”.

    I used to call them NeoLiberals, but was corrected on here, and rightly so. A designation that was proposed, and that I’ve been going with ever since is Post-Modern Leftist, which is inclusive of the Left’s inculcation by Cultural Marxists. An interesting development since the Trump Phenomenon is that the term leftist has superseded the catch-all of liberal in the vernacular.

  180. @Jason Liu
    If voting for Trump was really about white tribalism, isn't 54% an astonishingly low support for one's race? I could see the Alt-Right complaining how too few white women voted for Trump, but the left seems to be one step ahead in their rhetoric.

    Either way, it's good to see a leftist outlet admit partially that white women are the most radical, sheltered, and fearful leftists. This is the most immature group of people on the planet. And in my experience it spans many generations, all the way up to old white grannies.

    I get a lot of shit from the white right for trashing their women all the time, but if it wasn't for the white female demographic, the SJW movement would basically be dead in the water. White women are far more numerous and have much more social and cultural power than blacks or Muslims or whatever. And they're more likely to genuinely believe in lovey dovey "empathy" bullshit than actual minorities, who tend to be more traditional and use liberal politics as a means of self-interest rather than ideological agreement.

    Have a look at who shows up in far left rallies, who populates social justice activist groups, who teaches your kids about trannies, who rewrites your history in the humanities department, who makes the most over-the-top attacks on masculinity, and so on. It's mostly your white wives, daughters, mothers, and sisters. The culture they spread is a danger to humanity in general, not just white majority countries. You need to check them before some outside group comes in and does it for you.

    Well said.

    When you look at the demographic breakdown of the election results, it’s understandable that the left is pushing the narrative of rising white nationalism so hard. Badwhites got their guy in office with only a 21 point margin among white voters.

    Compare that to blacks going 93% for Obama and 88% for Hillary, and you can see why the thought of white identity politics is terrifying to the left.

  181. White women want William the Conqueror to stomp the globalizers who threaten the sovereignty of the United States. White women are rejecting weak puppet whore politicians such as Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. White women have no respect for cuckservative Republican Party ruling class rats who are completely and totally controlled by evil globalizer plutocrat donors.

    White women voted for Trump because Trump told the ruling class Republican Party rats to go to hell. Trump was the only candidate in the GOP presidential primaries who was not a donor-controlled cuckservative whore.

    Which other candidate would promote the policy that says Islamic Terrorist Attacks are a phenomena connected to mass immigration and that Muslims are to be considered differently than others in terms of their admittance to the United States?

    White women will continue to abandon the Democrat Party because the Democrat Party has abandoned White women.

    The Democrat Party pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Mass immigration lowers wages, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, increases housing costs and destroys cultural cohesion in the United States. White women voters reject mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    White women will vote to put the interests of the American people first. White women do not like how the Democrat Party puts the interests of foreigners ahead of the interests of the American people.

  182. @DFH

    I lol’d, but you’re clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others.
     
    https://twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/status/912411161915559936

    Gotta love the accusations at the end of the clip:

    You’re still White! You’re still responsible! You’re inherently racist!

    It’s in your blood! It’s in your DNA!

    So evil races exist, just switch the colors.

    • Replies: @AM

    So evil races exist, just switch the colors.
     
    She believes in a white supremacist theory - aka he is a white, responsible and the only who can really take action (punch people).

    It's funny how nothing changes, we just tweak the scripts a little bit.
  183. @fondolo
    Women who have male loved ones are often exposed t rational thought. It makes a difference.

    Yes. There’s a reason for “mansplaining.”

  184. @Pat Boyle
    If what you say is true, then that isn't very flattering to black men. White women want a white husband with white children and all that goes with it. That means they want a man who makes a good middle class income and they live in a nice house in a good neighborhood.

    These are the things that women in the past have desired and women of today do so also. But of course not everyone succeeds. Many white women in their best sexually attractive years can't get these things. Then they settle for a vibrator or a black man. So black men are seen as a substitute for a "Magic Wand". This is not a flattering picture of black men.

    As a white man I have never had much trouble getting white women. You just have to be organized and diligent. It is not particularly hard to get women. It is much easier for example than getting rich. The simple reason is that women want to be 'gotten'. But some individuals like the person who calls himself Whiskey seems to have had a lot of trouble finding women. He and a few like him have allowed their social failures to color their political thinking. Black men are not going to get all the white women. There are cases of black sports millionaires getting good looking blondes. That sort of thing gets reported in the media but it is a tiny phenomenon.

    Blacks are doing very badly. They are making no progress in school or on the job. The only place where they seem to prosper is in TV commercials. All the money spent by the government to elevate blacks seems to have been wasted. Blacks are no more equal today than they were when I was a kid - before the Civil Rights movement. So the next time blacks get restless, as they do periodically, they will find that whitey has no more fanciful theories that account for the failures of blacks. Liberal optimism is being ground down by reality.

    Visit the deep south. There is a very noticeable class aspect to interracial relationships.

    Trashy people are essentially defined by their lack of long-term thinking. It’s the reason they’re trashy. There’s no rational decision-making process taking place wherein some obese woman with a tramp stamp realizes no white man will take her and decides to buy a vibrator to occupy her until she can find a black guy. Nor do they think of it as “settling” – these women tend to prefer dating black men, often exclusively.

    I’ve wondered occasionally if whatever genes cause a preference for r-selection over K-selection are more common in the white people that settled the southeast. Maybe it’s just the tendency to be overweight among lower income people – chubby girls get lots of attention from black dudes during sexually formative years and end up with a strong preference.

  185. “Planet of the Women”

    That sounds like either:

    1. Paradise Island, legendary home to the Amazonian women creatures, from which the superhero Wonder Woman came from.

    2. A low budget Russ Meyer that is sci-fi/mythological. Due to a computer malfunction in their spaceship, a crew of about seven US male astronauts from the year 1971 jump galaxies and land on a planet that is totally populated by Amazonians (median height 6’3″), with measurements of around 48J-24-38. The planet’s climate is tropical, which allows for little heavy clothing. Despite its lush flora and fauna, the Amazonian population is slowly going extinct due to a lack of men. On the positive side every life form on the planet remains perpetually youthful and never outwardly ages and lifespans exceed the average human’s by a couple of centuries.
    The dilemma facing the crew of seven astronauts is to return to Earth or remain behind to graciously help the Amazonian tribes survive.

    Don’t suppose the typical Hillary (or Jeb!) voter would appreciate the complexity of the plot, but it would definitely be quite revealing.

  186. @ScrewtapeSessions
    Kinda reinforces the hateful notion that single white women are anti-civilization. Unless, of course, they are enslaved into hetero marriage to a productive white man and thus subjected to the bludgeoning of patriarchy until the pressure is too much and the lever of democracy is pulled ever-so-slightly to the right of whatever princess of darkness has been pre-ordained to take the reigns of the four horsemen.

    Marriage is 'problematic' to the progressive death cult. We already know this. They have been quite above-board with their hostility in this regard. I'm not surprised that feral women vote for ruin, but I am mildly surprised (disgusted) by the number of males who vote for it. In the same way that I am disgusted by males who apparently enjoy watching better men bed their current woman.

    So which is more 'heartbreaking'? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a "good man" to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    The optimist in me thinks that the openness of their hostility - just as the open-hypergamy signaling being jammed down the throats of would-be husbands, will be their undoing. But this war has many fronts and the big sleep of the gentle white race seems to be deep into REM.

    My anecdote is heartbreaking too. The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating at the time of the election wanted to be married badly. She wanted a kid too. She wanted the life afforded by the surplus productivity of the evil white empire. Like most of her cohort, she wanted to cherry-pick from the traditions and bounties of our culture while simultaneously eroding the foundations that uphold those very things.

    Her personal politics were entrenched. She was incapable or unwilling to break from her feelz long enough to see that everything about her leftist beliefs could be drawn back to the destruction of those very things that she wanted; more specifically, that as a white-male I was the embodied enemy of their diversity multi-culti cult. And that were we to have children, they too would face this.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    Ultimately, I could not pry her loose from her programming. I did not feel that she would truly have my back. She was head-over-heels in love with me but could not see how her love stopped short of putting her faith and duty to work in the protection and preservation of our potential family.

    It wasn't so much a Trump v. Clinton issue, but the election process did reveal just how entrenched this programming is within the UMC SWF cohort and that many will see civilization burn rather than turn on the sisterhood - or rather, abandon the siren sound of progress in favor of preservation of those very things that have afforded them the privileged and coddled lives they lead.

    I let her go. She will likely find a male who is of like mind. But I doubt she will feel the tingles as he prostrates before the banner of BLM or Hillary or the next iteration. That is the real curse of these women: too long on the marxist gravy train leads to a bland cohabitation with a low-T cog where they pursue their otherism fetishes safely within the Ikea-clad facade of some diversitopia. Or cats.

    So which is more ‘heartbreaking’? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a “good man” to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    Overall, a great post; however, here, I think you mean a call, not a put. A call would mean she enjoys whatever upside in net worth her husband may accumulate if she is lucky to land somebody who strikes it rich. A put would be the floor, as in social security or workers comp in the case of disabling injury.

    • Replies: @ScrewtapeSessions
    The way I see it is that the "call" option is the marriage contract; buying into the upside, or said differently, exercising hypergamy, is baked-in.

    The value creation proposition is implied in the "price" of marriage. She assumes the marriage will increase in value, otherwise she isn't inclined to marry.

    She pays for it with her sex, fertility, exclusivity, etc. all of which are null under no-fault divorce since the marriage contract stipulates no such investment on her part. While silent as to his provisioning as well, his duty to provide somehow survives the blunt blades of equality under the law, in practice.

    But even so, there is some sort of exchange made, so she does pay some price even if that just means no more Tindering or broom-closet sex with the ski instructor after work.

    If there is no upside she just pursues casual sex or maybe hangs around hoping he will get off his motorcycle and quit the band and maybe get some middling office job like her friends' males. She'll run this program through the starting offense, defense, and special teams for some # of years until she realizes she is "ready" for the whole package (beta bucks.)

    But the put option is unique to her. It is her right (not obligation) to sell the marriage contract back to him should she PERCEIVE his value (thus marital value) to decline or otherwise fail to me her (now) current return expectations. In theory, he has the same right, but there is almost always a massive cost to execute. Divorce initiation stats suggest as much.

    For her, the put is already priced-in as the right was fully vested on the wedding day and the cost for her to execute is minimal. Maybe its better worded as the eat-pray-love hedge? Anyhow, while the strike price isn't set in advance, per se, she is typically allowed to realize (her half, or better) all of the gains that occurred under the marriage contract and she can sure enough do the math at any given point to solve for x.

    I have also read this all worded as the "threatpoint" in marriage. Which is probably more apt.

    Toss in kids (Think of the Children!!) and not only is the put free, but it lands the ejected husband somewhere between sharecropper and debtors prison, backed by the full powers of the State, aka violence. The put also places her as the de facto arbiter of the quality and quantity of his fatherhood. His rights as a father are contingent upon her satisfaction. The free put is her realizing this embedded power. That's the gravy baby.

    Perhaps you are correct on the technical lingo, but I kinda like my way. As for all these unwed white women Hillary voters, its not too hard to see why merely showing up with girl parts isn't getting men over the hump and into marriage with them. Keep the pun. Cheers.
    , @Seneca
    I think there are two ways to look at this. In a way it is a "spread."

    In other words when a woman marries her husband the marriage contact operates as both a call and a put for the woman.

    The marriage contact operates as a call , as you suggest, on her husband 's future earnings (which she hopes will go up). She is sacrificing some youth, fertility, resources, and exclusivity to purchase this option to participate in it.

    The marriage contract also operates as a put, since she gets a price now (the right to his future earnings), which operates as a "floor" for the possible (inevitable?) decline in the value of her youth, beauty, and resources.

    Any financial traders here have another way of looking at this relationship from the perspective of options trading?
  187. @Buck Turgidson
    Those darned men! If ladies only could learn how to run militaries, power water and water treatment plants, build houses and commercial buildings, install hvac, build maintain and repair cars, build and maintain roads, install electrical systems, and install and repair plumbing, they would be .5 way there.

    Anyone know a good female mechanic who works on toyota trucks? Would love to help em out

    If ladies only could learn how to run militaries, power water and water treatment plants, build houses and commercial buildings, install hvac, build maintain and repair cars, build and maintain roads, install electrical systems, and install and repair plumbing, they would be .5 way there.

    You agree with Camille Paglia!! She’s been on record for the last 20 years about how if womyn were in charge, we’d all be still living in caves and grass huts. That womyn don’t have a clue when it comes to producing ‘civilization’; they can only benefit from it, but never create it.

    It’s been obvious that the last 50 years have seen married womyn being more conservative than single womyn. As previous commenters have pointed out, the govt becomes the husband with singles.

    But I’ve seen voting trends that even married ones will vote left when there’s a govt program they might need in the future; if they left their husband for example. Pretty sure the vast majority of womyn are contemplating that option on a monthly basis…take three quarters of his income, more than that of the assets, and then supplement it with govt goodies. That’s the plan…..

  188. @Buzz Mohawk
    So, we are to think that it's great that practically all blacks vote on the basis of race, and terrible that some females don't vote on the basis of sex.

    White married women are more likely to think critically and not vote for a candidate just because she has a vagina. It's that simple.

    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.

    It’s an important dichotomy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.
     
    Exactly. Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    And that's an Everest even Hillary can't scale.
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Oh the lefty slut-walk & pussy-hat marchers use their vaginas plenty.

    Big difference between those who actually intentionally use their wombs...
  189. #84 AM

    “Unfortunately, it appears that bad ideas literally have to run their course and die out.”

    Bad ideas don’t die they just go to hell to regroup.

  190. Steve

    This is one of your funniest and most perceptive posts. Is Lucia Graves really so deluded by ideology she can not understand why a woman would vote for someone who supports her “family’s economic interests” rather than someone with two X chromosomes?

  191. @Yan Shen

    If every woman in America came home to just a cat and a bottle of white wine, then Hillary would be President.
     
    But according to our uh good friend Whiskey, every woman in America will soon be coming home to a sexy, sexy black man. And watch out, once sub-Saharan Africa spews its 21st century population explosion across the rest of the world, we'll soon all be caramel like former president Barack Obama. I mean just look at how uh African dudes are already cleaning up in Europe. Can you imagine if there were another 50-100 million of them there?

    It's sexy, sexy black men all the way down...

    But according to our uh good friend Whiskey…

    I don’t recall seeing him here in awhile. Did he finally find a girl?

    On the other hand, I’ve been away much due to family pressures, too. So maybe our ships have passed in the night.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    He morphed into a kick-ass bike courier and now he's fighting off the ladies with a shitty stick.
  192. @Anonymous
    Wasn’t Hillary conservative to begin with and later became a Democrat due to pressure from her white male husband?

    Wasn’t Hillary conservative to begin with and later became a Democrat due to pressure from her white male husband?

    She was an AUH2O girl; but shipped off to the lefty college the next year and got radicalized. She didn’t hitch her wagon to the prevert until law school….

    Womyn seem to be like clay; they can mold themselves into different shapes and models. Like the way they can switch teams, sexually, in a way that men just can’t.

  193. @Brutusale
    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.

    It's an important dichotomy.

    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.

    Exactly. Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    And that’s an Everest even Hillary can’t scale.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Exactly. Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    And that’s an Everest even Hillary can’t scale."



    This is the post of the month, 'specially with Trump in the first part.
    , @Elsewhere

    Genital duets trump vagina monologues.
     
    LOL!
    , @Desiderius
    Brevity is the wit of the soul.

    Nice one.
    , @StillCARealist
    Dang, we're gettin' pretty poetic around here. Too bad I can't repeat any of it to respectable folk.

    What's the corollary to males and their reproductive apparati?
  194. #82 AM

    “We’d be better off removing women’s suffrage or only extending 1 vote to formally married households.”

    Married women vote the same as their husbands by and large. You need to rethink the 2nd suggested strategy because it is antithetical to the first. Restricting households to 1 vote would cut the political power of households in half and empower singles.

  195. @njguy73

    If the world were only run by women…

    we’d have a new war every 28 days.
     
    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren't speaking to each other anymore.

    No, it’s Korea, China and Vietnam whispering among themselves about how fat Japan looks in that kimono.

    • Replies: @njguy73

    No, it’s Korea, China and Vietnam whispering among themselves about how fat Japan looks in that kimono.
     
    Good one.
  196. @Lurker
    I wonder if Thomm is a new incarnation of Tiny Duck?

    My money is on newbie “Woody Weaver”.

    • Replies: @fish
    You'n be also lookin of "Sick Duck" and "Tanisha Dainty" they be some ob Tinys otha personalities


    - Leonard Pitts
  197. I hate to be uncharitable, but don’t the following quotes from Clinton and Kretschmer imply that white women shouldn’t be in positions of authority if they are that susceptible to pressure?

    Women will be under tremendous pressure – and I’m talking principally about white women.

    Clinton

    “We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”

    Kretschmer

    • Replies: @Olorin
    I think what they're actually saying is that they recognize that some white women are not as tractable as others when it comes to doing what a few powerful, or power-aspiring, women (and their globillionaire puppeteers) want them to.

    In the minds of women like this there is no bigger crime than that a woman think for herself. Worse if she also consults men she knows, likes, trusts, respects, or loves for their ideas on things.

    So I doubt there's any pressure of this sort outside of their fantasies involving other women's marriages/families.

    But id-frustrated gals like HRC can't stop wanting all women to marry the state (her as their husband-king) or viewing all women as princesses needing saving (her as white knight/warrior) and correcting (her as pope).

    This reflects the old Indo-European tripartite social order that runs so deeply in the I-E psyche (king, priest, warrior).

    Women trying to take this up using the state and force is psychologically and mythically bent/twisted...but remember, it's the libs/Dems/progs who don't believe in biology. Thus for them politics and law are a sort of gender reassignment surgery. Power is a kind of magic for them. Which is why Chaos Magick was such a perfect weapon to use against HRC.

    It's at the point of losing any skirmish, never mind battle or war, that you see how clearly these women are not up to the task of leadership. Their egos cannot stand even a particle of dissent. Every loss is a catastrophe. This is how we get "microaggressions," rape cakes, etc.

    Finally, women like Clinton and Kretschmer always project.

    I mean, c'mon--"marriage = political pressure"?

    Hillary herself married a 14-karat turdbucket and didn't dump his sorry glutes on multiple occasions when she should have. All because she wanted in on the power he was so good at seizing. The married white women I know who loathe her all observed her doing that.

    This offers a delicious additional bit of schadenfreude: I imagine Hillary well realizes that many married white women voted against both the Clintons. Hillary's political rocket ship turned into an anchor. No wonder she's bitter about other women's marriages...which in many cases liberate women from the need to conform to what the Hillarys of the world tell them to think.

  198. @Brutusale
    My money is on newbie "Woody Weaver".

    You’n be also lookin of “Sick Duck” and “Tanisha Dainty” they be some ob Tinys otha personalities

    – Leonard Pitts

  199. @ScrewtapeSessions
    Kinda reinforces the hateful notion that single white women are anti-civilization. Unless, of course, they are enslaved into hetero marriage to a productive white man and thus subjected to the bludgeoning of patriarchy until the pressure is too much and the lever of democracy is pulled ever-so-slightly to the right of whatever princess of darkness has been pre-ordained to take the reigns of the four horsemen.

    Marriage is 'problematic' to the progressive death cult. We already know this. They have been quite above-board with their hostility in this regard. I'm not surprised that feral women vote for ruin, but I am mildly surprised (disgusted) by the number of males who vote for it. In the same way that I am disgusted by males who apparently enjoy watching better men bed their current woman.

    So which is more 'heartbreaking'? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a "good man" to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?

    The optimist in me thinks that the openness of their hostility - just as the open-hypergamy signaling being jammed down the throats of would-be husbands, will be their undoing. But this war has many fronts and the big sleep of the gentle white race seems to be deep into REM.

    My anecdote is heartbreaking too. The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating at the time of the election wanted to be married badly. She wanted a kid too. She wanted the life afforded by the surplus productivity of the evil white empire. Like most of her cohort, she wanted to cherry-pick from the traditions and bounties of our culture while simultaneously eroding the foundations that uphold those very things.

    Her personal politics were entrenched. She was incapable or unwilling to break from her feelz long enough to see that everything about her leftist beliefs could be drawn back to the destruction of those very things that she wanted; more specifically, that as a white-male I was the embodied enemy of their diversity multi-culti cult. And that were we to have children, they too would face this.

    These women salt the earth with their progressive delusions and then cry themselves to bed when there is no harvest in the autumn of their lives.

    Ultimately, I could not pry her loose from her programming. I did not feel that she would truly have my back. She was head-over-heels in love with me but could not see how her love stopped short of putting her faith and duty to work in the protection and preservation of our potential family.

    It wasn't so much a Trump v. Clinton issue, but the election process did reveal just how entrenched this programming is within the UMC SWF cohort and that many will see civilization burn rather than turn on the sisterhood - or rather, abandon the siren sound of progress in favor of preservation of those very things that have afforded them the privileged and coddled lives they lead.

    I let her go. She will likely find a male who is of like mind. But I doubt she will feel the tingles as he prostrates before the banner of BLM or Hillary or the next iteration. That is the real curse of these women: too long on the marxist gravy train leads to a bland cohabitation with a low-T cog where they pursue their otherism fetishes safely within the Ikea-clad facade of some diversitopia. Or cats.

    The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating…

    …were we to have children, they too would

    Bro, if you’re trying to have children you should be aiming much younger than 40 year olds.

    Great handle, by the way

    • Replies: @ScrewtapeSessions
    Thanks. I was fully aware that I was catching a falling knife WRT her age. I wasn't trying to have children. I won't bore you with the details, but once a blue moon there is a woman who might just make marriage and kids seem possible. She was that woman.

    She was no snowflake (AWALT), but she was of a rare caliber of character, shitlibbery aside of course. We started dating when she was 36. Still old, but not too far off from a great many single, strong independent women looking to consolidate their winnings (losses carried forward).

    My previous girl was 14 years younger. As you are aware, I'm sure, there's a metric shit ton of issues in that cohort too. They merely have more uncooked eggs so they act as if they will never run out of ammo. Hence the 36 y/o still-singles crowding up the Tindr queue in every blue city in the USA. Those birds didn't just show up at 36. They got here through the sacred journey of female Experience.

    Which of course is a liability and not the asset they want it to be, but that's more up the Chateau isle than here so I'll just leave it at that. I'd like kids, buy I'm a long way from what I would call trying. The juice aint worth the squeeze.
  200. @whorefinder

    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren’t speaking to each other anymore.
     
    I lol'd, but you're clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others. Because women are bad at violence, they don't do it personally, but if they have a man under their control---whether it be a husband, boyfriend, or (if they are in a position of power) a police officer or bodyguard---they jump at the chance to make the man do violence for her.

    Woman with a loyal violent man at her disposal is a most dangerous psychopath.

    Because women are bad at violence, they don’t do it personally, but if they have a man under their control…

    The pre-suffrage women of Switzerland– that is, within the lifetime of most of us here– would say “We vote in bed.”

    But let’s not forget, throughout the twentieth century, the Republicans were the less warlike party, preferring petty skirmishes in the Philippines and the Caribbean to major transoceanic crusades. And during this time, women were more Republican than were men.

    The only woman in Congress in 1941 was the only member to vote against going to war. Huzzah to her!

    • Replies: @Flip
    You could argue that Eisenhower ended the Korean War that Truman started and Nixon/Ford ended the Vietnam War that Kennedy/Johnson started.
  201. @Alfred
    It looks like the Suffragettes should have asked for votes for women only. :)

    You mean bitter, single, preferably misanthropic women only.

    Regular women might vote how hot dudes tell them to.

  202. @Reg Cæsar

    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.
     
    Exactly. Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    And that's an Everest even Hillary can't scale.

    “Exactly. Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    And that’s an Everest even Hillary can’t scale.”

    This is the post of the month, ‘specially with Trump in the first part.

  203. …said Kelsy Kretschmer, an assistant professor at Oregon State University

    Granular analysis from someone with an equally granular name.

    Wonderfully concise conclusion from the NY Post Editorial Board:

    Those not already in thrall to her can save the $30 price, because everything you need to know is right there in the five words on the book’s cover: Q: “What Happened”? A: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    I’d just read that her first draft did indeed blame the loss on her sex, but then she (or an editor or her ghost) thought that sounded whiny coming decades after Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher, Benazir Bhutto, etc, and in a far more liberal country.

    So she changed the analysis to her problem being not one of the boys, but very much one of them.

    That’s so on-the-money I’m hesitant to ascribe its origin to her.

  204. @Tim Howells
    I almost felt hopeful reading that article because they almost totally came around to the isteve view of the family unit facing the world together, but just expressed in a different way. But then you know that the conclusion will be that the family unit must be annihilated in the name of female freedom. It's funny too how the "feminists" so effortlessly assume that the male is dominant in the relationship.

    “It’s funny too how the ‘feminists’ so effortlessly assume that the male is dominant in the relationship.”

    Feminists make arguments in favor of the patriarchy all the time. For instance, with the Male Gaze and Rape Culture stuff. They’re basically saying “Women are vulnerable and defenseless, they’ll never not be afraid of strange men (all men, really), so they need our help.” I beginning to think feminism is just one, giant unconscious cry for help.

    • Replies: @Olorin

    I beginning to think feminism is just one, giant unconscious cry for help.
     
    This.

    One of my affections for HBD in general is how it can make sense of certain behavioral or psychological patterns. Possibly tying those back to biology/evolution. And certainly, in achieving that, freeing us somewhat from propaganda, ideology, and myth. Or at least supplying another place to stand.

    However, the earliest feminism and drive for the female vote was in large part an effort to offset the votes of the lower IQ/non-founding-stock/outside-the-Hajnal-Line immigrant floods of the 1880s-19-teens and help retain national character. (I was even told that by my paternal grandparents.)

    It was flipped in the 1960s into a way to drown out those white votes demographically and deliberately reshape the nation into something more idiocratic and mass-driven, with power accruing to whoever could flood the nation with bodies then flog them into compliance with a political program.

    The powers that be are not going to stop now, as evidenced by that NYT comment I shared that tips the Dems' hand for 2020: flyover state whites have TOO MUCH POWER with their votes as the Constitution stands, and only the coastal megalopolises, and maybe Chicago, must be allowed to choose our elected leaders.

  205. @Reg Cæsar

    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.
     
    Exactly. Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    And that's an Everest even Hillary can't scale.

    Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    LOL!

  206. @candid_observer
    Gotta love the accusations at the end of the clip:

    You're still White! You're still responsible! You're inherently racist!

    It's in your blood! It's in your DNA!

     

    So evil races exist, just switch the colors.

    So evil races exist, just switch the colors.

    She believes in a white supremacist theory – aka he is a white, responsible and the only who can really take action (punch people).

    It’s funny how nothing changes, we just tweak the scripts a little bit.

  207. When the “19th Amendment” was being debated, some opponents (mostly women – who I suppose must have been married to white men) said it would destroy the family. Of course, that’s exactly what has happened. What’s remarkable these days, as Rollo Tomassi has observed, is how open they’re getting to be about their aims – as in this article. They don’t think they even have to pretend any more.

  208. @Reg Cæsar

    Because women are bad at violence, they don’t do it personally, but if they have a man under their control...
     
    The pre-suffrage women of Switzerland-- that is, within the lifetime of most of us here-- would say "We vote in bed."

    But let's not forget, throughout the twentieth century, the Republicans were the less warlike party, preferring petty skirmishes in the Philippines and the Caribbean to major transoceanic crusades. And during this time, women were more Republican than were men.

    The only woman in Congress in 1941 was the only member to vote against going to war. Huzzah to her!

    You could argue that Eisenhower ended the Korean War that Truman started and Nixon/Ford ended the Vietnam War that Kennedy/Johnson started.

  209. Pat it’s not the trouble getting women. No probs there. It’s finding non pozzed women. Impossible here in CA.

    And the most radicalize thing is working amongst women and overhearing the poz. It’s so bad I have to go headphones.

    You have no idea of the depth of hostility and social Darwinism the average White woman over 30 harbors for most White men.

  210. @Achmed E. Newman

    We’d be better off removing women’s suffrage or only extending 1 vote to formally married households.
     
    Do you mean like "OK, I get the truck, the jet-skis, and the vote, and you get the house and the kids and the divorce lawyer"?

    With the bozos selected for us to vote on now, I'll take the kid (even if he is also a bozo too, he's my bozo).

    Do you mean like “OK, I get the truck, the jet-skis, and the vote, and you get the house and the kids and the divorce lawyer”?

    Yes, because married men vote the way I want them to. I’m not egalitarian in my motives. 🙂

    I’d also remove their one collective vote if they divorced. It would be a way to keep no-fault divorce if we insist (although I’d get rid of that one, too) and reward people who manage to at least figure out how to live with someone else.

  211. @whorefinder

    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren’t speaking to each other anymore.
     
    I lol'd, but you're clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others. Because women are bad at violence, they don't do it personally, but if they have a man under their control---whether it be a husband, boyfriend, or (if they are in a position of power) a police officer or bodyguard---they jump at the chance to make the man do violence for her.

    Woman with a loyal violent man at her disposal is a most dangerous psychopath.

    “women love to sic men under their control onto others”

    We call this phenomenon “let’s you and him fight.”

  212. @Lurker

    He had power and status, and that’s the main thing – plus he’d literally fought his way to his position. I’ve seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama ‘s presence.
     
    Obama had the power and status. I'm not sure about the fighting part.

    He had power and status, and that’s the main thing – plus he’d literally fought his way to his position. I’ve seen exactly the same expression on women in Obama ‘s presence.

    Obama had the power and status. I’m not sure about the fighting part.

    Calluses on the knees usually come from other activities, and Larry Sinclair didn’t say anything about fights. However, there is the forgotten issue of those three dead gay guys who belonged to his church…

    Barack Obama, Donald Young, Larry Bland, & Nate Spencer from conspiracy


    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2013/04/04/another-of-obamas-gay-young-men-died-mysteriously/
    http://abc7chicago.com/archive/5854125/

    I do doubt the “literal” part, though.

  213. @27 year old

    The 40 y/o never-married woman I had been dating...

    ...were we to have children, they too would
     
    Bro, if you're trying to have children you should be aiming much younger than 40 year olds.

    Great handle, by the way

    Thanks. I was fully aware that I was catching a falling knife WRT her age. I wasn’t trying to have children. I won’t bore you with the details, but once a blue moon there is a woman who might just make marriage and kids seem possible. She was that woman.

    She was no snowflake (AWALT), but she was of a rare caliber of character, shitlibbery aside of course. We started dating when she was 36. Still old, but not too far off from a great many single, strong independent women looking to consolidate their winnings (losses carried forward).

    My previous girl was 14 years younger. As you are aware, I’m sure, there’s a metric shit ton of issues in that cohort too. They merely have more uncooked eggs so they act as if they will never run out of ammo. Hence the 36 y/o still-singles crowding up the Tindr queue in every blue city in the USA. Those birds didn’t just show up at 36. They got here through the sacred journey of female Experience.

    Which of course is a liability and not the asset they want it to be, but that’s more up the Chateau isle than here so I’ll just leave it at that. I’d like kids, buy I’m a long way from what I would call trying. The juice aint worth the squeeze.

  214. …women married to men vote on behalf of their husbands and families.

    What’s the Matter with Candace?

  215. @Pericles
    It's well known that wives are unable to influence their husbands.

    “Women marry thinking their husbands will change, and they don’t, and men marry thinking their wives won’t change, and they do.”

  216. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...a consistent record of mediocrity-to-failure...
     
    Hillary was a really good defense lawyer, if you happened to be a child rapist:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says

    Everyone deserves a vigorous defense.

  217. @JohnnyD
    If Huma didn't have such a sleazy husband, Hillary could be president right now...

    That last-days revelation about Weiner sure didn’t help her any.

  218. @whorefinder

    No. If women ran the world, there would be no war.

    Just 200 countries that aren’t speaking to each other anymore.
     
    I lol'd, but you're clearly not remembering how many times women love to sic men under their control onto others. Because women are bad at violence, they don't do it personally, but if they have a man under their control---whether it be a husband, boyfriend, or (if they are in a position of power) a police officer or bodyguard---they jump at the chance to make the man do violence for her.

    Woman with a loyal violent man at her disposal is a most dangerous psychopath.

    Reminds me of the typical behavior of women after they call the police while in a domestic fight with their male partner.

    Police know all too well what will happen if they handcuff the man before the woman.

    As soon as the male is handcuffed, the woman goes into a vicious attack mode on the male.

  219. Here’s an important little bit I don’t think anyone’s commented on, from the liberal WaPo:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/17/the-fascinating-connection-between-having-sons-and-daughters-and-support-for-hillary-clinton/

    Don’t worry about the article, scroll down to the data. Percentage voting for Hillary:

    Daughters only: 58
    Non-parents: 56
    Sons and daughters: 42
    Sons only: 40
    Everyone: 47

    The big difference isn’t between parents and nonparents (daughters and nonparents are similar), or between sons and daughters (sons and daughters is similar to sons). It’s between people who have *at least one son*, and those who don’t. So I’m willing to bet in addition to a spouse, having a son who might be affected by Title IX rape laws or anti-male affirmative action was an important reason not to support Hillary. After all, spouses come and go, but even feminists worry about their children. Blood is thicker than water.

    • Replies: @Ivy

    So I’m willing to bet in addition to a spouse, having a son who might be affected by Title IX rape laws or anti-male affirmative action was an important reason not to support Hillary.
     
    There was also that concern about President Hillary (it pains me just to type that) sending American young men off to fight more expensive, distant, ill-conceived wars with little forethought.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I’m willing to bet in addition to a spouse, having a son who might be affected by Title IX rape laws or anti-male affirmative action was an important reason not to support Hillary.
     
    A long time ago, Steve told of discussing with Mrs Sailer some point about affirmative action for women. She cut him off by asking him why they should allow this to be done to their boys.

    Men are just too abstract.
  220. @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, but besides the militaries, the electric power, the water, the houses and buildings, the HVAC, the automobiles, the roads and the electrical/plumbing, WHAT HAVE THE MEN EVER DONE FOR US?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvPbj9NX0zc

    BTW, what they ARE good for is sitting back in the bed of Toyota truck in short-shorts and halter tops. Once you see that, it is pretty obvious what the women are good for and what the men are good for. It's simple, really, and I don't know why it has been made so complicated over the last 50 years.

    (Oh, good luck on your truck, Buck.)

    It wasn’t men who made things complicated.

  221. @Anonymous
    Of course, perhaps the strongest, instinctive human bond which exists is between a mother and her children. In particular, the relationship between a mother and her son has, historically, always been regarded as being particularly intense.

    Despite the 'Totem Pole' Democrat strategy, enough white mothers instinctively realise that Democrat policies are distinctly hostile to their sons' life chances.

    Somebody ought to survey political opinions of mothers of n children by percentage sons.

    Is a mother of 3 sons more likely conservative than a mother of 3 daughters?

  222. @YetAnotherAnon
    " I’m not sure about the fighting part"

    Surely you recall his many struggles against racism? It was in all the papers and on TV.

    Of course. Most remiss of me.

  223. Damm that millions of years of evolution all to hell.

  224. @SFG
    Here's an important little bit I don't think anyone's commented on, from the liberal WaPo:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/17/the-fascinating-connection-between-having-sons-and-daughters-and-support-for-hillary-clinton/

    Don't worry about the article, scroll down to the data. Percentage voting for Hillary:

    Daughters only: 58
    Non-parents: 56
    Sons and daughters: 42
    Sons only: 40
    Everyone: 47

    The big difference isn't between parents and nonparents (daughters and nonparents are similar), or between sons and daughters (sons and daughters is similar to sons). It's between people who have *at least one son*, and those who don't. So I'm willing to bet in addition to a spouse, having a son who might be affected by Title IX rape laws or anti-male affirmative action was an important reason not to support Hillary. After all, spouses come and go, but even feminists worry about their children. Blood is thicker than water.

    So I’m willing to bet in addition to a spouse, having a son who might be affected by Title IX rape laws or anti-male affirmative action was an important reason not to support Hillary.

    There was also that concern about President Hillary (it pains me just to type that) sending American young men off to fight more expensive, distant, ill-conceived wars with little forethought.

  225. @Reg Cæsar

    But according to our uh good friend Whiskey...
     
    I don't recall seeing him here in awhile. Did he finally find a girl?

    On the other hand, I've been away much due to family pressures, too. So maybe our ships have passed in the night.

    He morphed into a kick-ass bike courier and now he’s fighting off the ladies with a shitty stick.

  226. @Yak-15
    It's because the United States is a nation of immigrants. In order to build such a diverse nation state of misaligned interests into a cohesive entity, nationalism must be injected at every venture imaginable. It's why we say the pledge and why our Fourth of July is so much better than any European equivalent.

    It's the same reason why O'Canada is played as well. You have to find some way to bind all the different people. It's imperfect, but it works.

    In order to build such a diverse nation state of misaligned interests into a cohesive entity, nationalism must be injected at every venture imaginable. It’s why we say the pledge and why our Fourth of July is so much better than any European equivalent.

    It’s the same reason why O’Canada is played as well. You have to find some way to bind all the different people. It’s imperfect, but it works.

    I get that as far as it goes, but who actually decides that domestic pro football games, which are commercial sporting events are to be one of the venues where we must commemorate the war dead?

    Today Trump was talking about people dying for the flag, but people don’t really die for a flag; in modern times they die because they signed up to serve in the military and ended up in harm’s way when they didn’t really want to be there. They may even have died when asleep in a bunk on a lower deck of a ship when it was in a collision in peacetime due to a mistake by someone else.

    The flag also symbolizes the 50 states of union irrevocably united after a horrible Civil War in which the forces that wanted to continue chattel slavery were defeated and the South subjugated by the forces of the remaining states of the time.

    If it is part of your contract as a professional athlete that you should stand up and sing the US national anthem before every game, then fair enough, you are getting paid enough for the chore, even if you are not actually a citizen of the US, which some players might not be.

    But it seems like a slippery slope for sports to be mandating this kind of thing at all, and all this stuff about celebrating the blood of martyrs seems phony to me. Incidentally my own grandfather was stoned to death by a mob in Mosul in 1939, but I still don’t think there is any point in dwelling on these things. Life must go on.

    But then I don’t particularly support the idea of the government giving financial help to football franchises to build stadiums. That seems like a violation of the First Amendment.

  227. @The Anti-Gnostic
    It doesn't seem to be working any more.

    “As someone told me once, it’s because lots of people, mostly on the Left, have no theory of mind.”

    Which is patently absurd. In essence, you are stating a majority of human beings are completely devoid of differentiating competing point of views. That is, they are totally aware of only their own perspective. People everyday put themselves into the shoes of other people.

    So, are we to assume that you do have this ability compared to “lots of people”?

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
    He certainly has it compared to *you.*
  228. @The Anti-Gnostic
    It doesn't seem to be working any more.

    “It’s inexplicable to me–why would a bunch of white billionaires pivot to their employees over the folks in the stands actually paying the bills?”

    Perhaps because fans generally are supportive of NFL players and will continue to attend games and buy their merchandise?

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
    Or perhaps it's due to another reason altogether.

    What evidence do you have (other than your own uninformed opinion, of course) to support your assertion?

    Or are you merely guessing?

    If you are not just speculating, support your claim with evidence.

    If you ARE merely guessing, come out and say so.

    Since insufferable, shrill pedantry is your M.O., there's no reason I shouldn't use it to hoist you by your own petard.
  229. @415 reasons
    And of course as was posted on Drudge yesterday, the NFL operations manual has a several paragraph section on the protocol during that anthem that is very explicit. Players must be on the field, standing, helmet in hand. As if the protocol weren't clear enough, the manual explicitly states that the reason for the protocol is to demonstrate respect for the flag, veterans and those who lost their lives in war. So not only is there an apparent double standard in what free speech is permissible, but there is an explicit, written prohibition against political conduct of the exact type you imagine there should be. So the league supporting the kneelers is blatantly hypocritical and cravenly obsequious to the forces of political correctness.

    I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it's too infuriating.

    Yes, there is a protocol, and NFL owners have chosen not to enforce it vigorously, given the current nature of our political discourse.

    Loudmouth Stephen A. Smith offers some insight here regarding the implementation of this protocol.

    https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem

    “I personally am done watching any of these stupid sports leagues, it’s too infuriating.”

    • Troll: 415 reasons
  230. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    cuckasaurus.

  231. @Reg Cæsar

    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.
     
    Exactly. Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    And that's an Everest even Hillary can't scale.

    Brevity is the wit of the soul.

    Nice one.

  232. [Whisk[e]y]] morphed into a kick-ass bike courier and now he’s fighting off the ladies with a shitty stick.

    My stepbrother was a bike courier, in San Francisco no less, and ended up marrying a highly-paid healthcare bureaucrat and househusbanding for quite a while.

    The only better environment for your glutes would be at Cornell, very, very far above Cayuga’s waters. Look at Ann Coulter.

  233. How dare you married women vote in the interest of your family over The Fate of All Women!

  234. @Chrisnonymous
    I hate reading threads focused on women, so here's an OT pretty good Tweet:

    https://twitter.com/johndurant/status/912005047092776960

    Simple.

    If it agrees with Leftism, it’s acceptable. If not, it’s not.

  235. @SFG
    Here's an important little bit I don't think anyone's commented on, from the liberal WaPo:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/17/the-fascinating-connection-between-having-sons-and-daughters-and-support-for-hillary-clinton/

    Don't worry about the article, scroll down to the data. Percentage voting for Hillary:

    Daughters only: 58
    Non-parents: 56
    Sons and daughters: 42
    Sons only: 40
    Everyone: 47

    The big difference isn't between parents and nonparents (daughters and nonparents are similar), or between sons and daughters (sons and daughters is similar to sons). It's between people who have *at least one son*, and those who don't. So I'm willing to bet in addition to a spouse, having a son who might be affected by Title IX rape laws or anti-male affirmative action was an important reason not to support Hillary. After all, spouses come and go, but even feminists worry about their children. Blood is thicker than water.

    I’m willing to bet in addition to a spouse, having a son who might be affected by Title IX rape laws or anti-male affirmative action was an important reason not to support Hillary.

    A long time ago, Steve told of discussing with Mrs Sailer some point about affirmative action for women. She cut him off by asking him why they should allow this to be done to their boys.

    Men are just too abstract.

  236. @Anonym

    But the other 90% of whites are much better, of course. The women don’t become bluehaired femtwats, and the men don’t become WN ne’er do wells.
     
    Most of the people on this site are pretty articulate, this is not exactly low brow reading. Stating that WNs are exclusive to the bottom 10% of society is how you might like it to be, not how it is.

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin, and certainly that would be higher among the men. Certainly the margin among white voters without college degrees was 39 points, but it's wrong to say the white intelligentsia are all race blind or self-hating.

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin,

    Except that Trump is not a WN and never was. I support Trump too, but my disdain for WN losers (who are wastebaskets of genetic waste matter, as discussed before) is high.

    WN is a left-wing ideology, and always has been (the KKK was Democrat, Hitler was left-wing, and modern WNs have left-wing economic views).

    • Replies: @Lurker
    What are you doing here troll? There are streets still unshat upon.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    The way you repeat the talking points suggest either that: You truly believe the naive drivel that neocons have been peddling for roughly a generation. Or, you're pulling the leg and attempting to sound like a worn out, cliched GOP Koolaid drinker.

    Wish we all could use the Flux Capacator and return back to ca.1980's-90's, when bad evil Democrats were waskally wibwul and all good GOPers were excellent conservatives. Why don't you tell us what Rush Limbaugh has been saying lately for some real insightful commentary on libs vs. cons.
  237. @reiner Tor
    I've already wrote elsewhere (at the end of a very long thread, so probably nobody read it), but let me repeat. What the NFL players are doing is substantially different from what badthinkers are doing. An unknown badthinker could be hounded out of his job for saying or doing something outside of work, for example participating at a rally. The job might or might not involve talking to clients, but it's never the case that the badthinker engaged in badthink (or badspeak) with the clients, it's always a case of the badthinker saying something outside work hours far away from the workplace, or, at worst, a badthinker saying something to colleagues (like Damore, who wrote his memo on a forum where he was supposed to say his opinion on the question).

    On the other hand, the NFL players are making some kind of political statement in front of the viewers, i.e. in front of clients. (It's actually a black nationalist or BLM political statement, but they are obviously entitled to hold these opinions regardless, just as white nationalists are entitled to hold their beliefs.) I think that if a white nationalist football player was making a white nationalist political statement during the anthem (like doing the Roman salute), then most people here would find it reasonable that he lose his job. (Of course, only if Kaepernick et al would also lose theirs. I wouldn't support a white nationalist losing his job unless all political opinions would be banned from the games.) After all, it would be a PR disaster for the employer. (Just as the current black nationalist posturing is a PR disaster, too.)

    In other words, it's logically consistent to both oppose white nationalists being hounded out of their jobs (for making political statements outside their work) and support black nationalists being fired (for making political statements during 'work', i.e. during the games or the playing of the anthem).

    “In other words, it’s logically consistent to both oppose white nationalists being hounded out of their jobs (for making political statements outside their work) and support black nationalists being fired (for making political statements during ‘work’, i.e. during the games or the playing of the anthem).”

    That’s only if logic is applied equally. In a sane world, you’d either be allowed to express a political opinion without fear of being fired or with full knowledge that you’d be fired.

    In our insane word, you’re allowed to express political opinion as long as it’s of the Left. You run a serious risk of being hounded out of your job if your opinion is of the Right.

  238. @Corvinus
    "As someone told me once, it’s because lots of people, mostly on the Left, have no theory of mind."

    Which is patently absurd. In essence, you are stating a majority of human beings are completely devoid of differentiating competing point of views. That is, they are totally aware of only their own perspective. People everyday put themselves into the shoes of other people.

    So, are we to assume that you do have this ability compared to "lots of people"?

    He certainly has it compared to *you.*

  239. @Brutusale
    No, it's Korea, China and Vietnam whispering among themselves about how fat Japan looks in that kimono.

    No, it’s Korea, China and Vietnam whispering among themselves about how fat Japan looks in that kimono.

    Good one.

  240. @Corvinus
    "It’s inexplicable to me–why would a bunch of white billionaires pivot to their employees over the folks in the stands actually paying the bills?"

    Perhaps because fans generally are supportive of NFL players and will continue to attend games and buy their merchandise?

    Or perhaps it’s due to another reason altogether.

    What evidence do you have (other than your own uninformed opinion, of course) to support your assertion?

    Or are you merely guessing?

    If you are not just speculating, support your claim with evidence.

    If you ARE merely guessing, come out and say so.

    Since insufferable, shrill pedantry is your M.O., there’s no reason I shouldn’t use it to hoist you by your own petard.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    I see that you finally came out of the woodwork. I’m surprised you came back. Recall you had asked me this question–“Sources and citations, please. Aren’t your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that “when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?”

    I supplied the requisite links. Somehow you avoided a rebuttal. Interesting to say the least.

    Now, you say "what evidence do you have (other than your own uninformed opinion, of course) to support your assertion?"

    Here is one source showing how and why fans are showing general support for their favorite NFL teams and players.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/take-a-knee-hashtag-nfl-players-donald-trump-kneeling-national-anthem

    "While the crowd in Huntsville cheered, a different sentiment spread across Twitter on Saturday morning. The hashtag #TakeAKnee was being used to urge solidarity with NFL players, like Colin Kaepernick, who have been protesting police brutality and racial inequality in America by kneeling during the national anthem. Trump had hoped to chastise players during his speech, but it may have only served to galvanize support in their favor. By Saturday afternoon, #TakeAKnee was the top trend on Twitter in the United States and being used to show solidarity with players who have decided to kneel."

    Here is another source discussing the ratings "fallout".

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-md-ravens-fans-react-to-protests-20170925-story.html

    "Leffler said the NFL has responded as well as possible to Trump’s statements. He said he expected some fans may indeed dump their tickets in protest, although that may not mean more empty seats.
    “Somebody else will buy them,” Leffler said. “I think there will be an effect, but I don’t think people will stay home in droves.” Most fans, of course, watch the games on television or online, rather than in person. Nationally, NFL viewership was a mixed bag on Sunday, with CBS reporting an overall 4 percent increase in viewership over the same week last year, while NBC and Fox’s early ratings were down 10 percent and 16 percent, respectively...Leffler and Boyd said that viewership is harder to measure these days, with many fans either watching livestreams online, or highlight shows that allow them to follow individual players for fantasy leagues rather than entire games."

    "Since insufferable, shrill pedantry is your M.O."

    Same old projection schtick on your part.
  241. So the obvious and immutable reality that women (of any colour) are more interested in the welfare of their husbands (and their relationships with those husbands – i.e., their families!) than they are in the welfare of (or relationships with) other women (any women, save perhaps their daughters, mothers, nieces, aunts, and sisters – who are almost assuredly also important to her husband; cf. family, supra).

    It’s all a very laborious and boring way to reach this shocking conclusion:

    Women’s families are more important to them than anything.

    A statement applicable to (psychologically healthy) men and women, and an aspect of the universality of concentric loyalties founded in genetic, bioevolutionary foundations of life itself.

    Water is wet.

  242. Something needs to be done about the existence of heterosexual reproduction. If only women didn’t have any husbands, sons, grandsons, fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, and nephews, then Hillary would be President.

    Well, 70 million abortions in, we now know that Pro-Life women DO in fact carry and raise their children and liberal, feminist Pro-Choice women that aborted their children do not. There has to be some electoral consequence there after all that.

  243. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    We should try hard to come up with something catchy.

    Cultural Marxists.

    “If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things.” – Analects of Confucius, Chapter III

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    It's not as catchy and hurtful as "racist." Also, for all his faults Marx hated regressive tendencies of the left and immigration:

    [...] Owing to the constantly increasing concentration of leaseholds, Ireland constantly sends her own surplus to the English labour market, and thus forces down wages and lowers the material and moral position of the English working class.

    And most important of all! Every industrial and commercial centre in England now possesses a working class divided into two hostile camps, English proletarians and Irish proletarians. The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A.. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.

    This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organisation. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this.

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1870/letters/70_04_09.htm
  244. @Anonymous
    Women tend to soak up the politics, values, etc. of those around them much more than men. I'm surprised I didn't read about this factor. They are very pliant to the majority view.

    So if a woman lives with a conservative male, whose views are more likely to change over time?

    So if a woman lives with a conservative male, whose views are more likely to change over time?

    The divorce lawyers’ views will change from “I can’t afford that Porsche,” to “I now can.”

  245. @Brutusale
    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.

    It's an important dichotomy.

    Oh the lefty slut-walk & pussy-hat marchers use their vaginas plenty.

    Big difference between those who actually intentionally use their wombs…

  246. Speaking of women, Google is honoring some woman named Gloria E. Anzaldua. According to Google, Anzaldua was “an American scholar of Chicana cultural theory, feminist theory, and queer theory.” Perhaps, this is why Hillary Clinton lost.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2017/09/26/gloria-e-anzaldua-google-doodle-salutes-the-borderlands-authors-fertile-ideas/?utm_term=.5a2c8785d073

  247. @Yak-15
    It's because the United States is a nation of immigrants. In order to build such a diverse nation state of misaligned interests into a cohesive entity, nationalism must be injected at every venture imaginable. It's why we say the pledge and why our Fourth of July is so much better than any European equivalent.

    It's the same reason why O'Canada is played as well. You have to find some way to bind all the different people. It's imperfect, but it works.

    If you think this is “working” how do you define failure?

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    Idk, the Italians, the Irish, the Polish, etc seem to have bought in. The Hispanics not so much.
  248. @Achmed E. Newman

    A college-educated woman identifying as a liberal Democrat confided to Kretschmer – not wanting to be identified, as a Trump voter – that she had voted for him over Clinton because her husband’s job depends on the coal industry; she saw Trump as the candidate that would protect it, and by extension her family’s economic interests. Kretschmer called her story “the clearest, most heartbreaking validation of our article that I had ever heard”.
     
    The story is not just heartbreaking to Professor Assistant Professor Kretschmer, but to me too, as stupidity just breaks my heart. How could this Professor Assistant Professor be so dense not to see the other option that was available to Mrs. Clinton?: Don't threaten to shut down the coal industry! The country has, like, 200 years of energy worth of coal in the ground, most of manufacturing jobs are gone, and people have to make a living. If she had thought about that, she also may have won and been our President now.

    So, heartbreaking ....
    .
    .
    .
    .... ly stupid!

    Had a recurring argument with some Northeastern liberals over coal, and when I pointed out that people have to make a living, that these are good jobs in economically depressed areas and they produce many follow on jobs, not to mention lessen our dependence on oil, the answer I received was: “The miners should retrain and move to where they could get a job in “Green Energy”. I received this answer from a dentist, a financial advisor and a NY City bureaucrat. I now realize that Green Energy is like the perfect communist world the Marxists imagined in the early 20th Century and coal and oil are like dreadful monopoly capitalism. Get rid of the coal and oil and an energy nirvana will follow. And they really believe it. Hillary would have shut down the coal mines and banned drilling. As for the energy nirvana? it will be here any minute.

  249. @anon
    If you think this is "working" how do you define failure?

    Idk, the Italians, the Irish, the Polish, etc seem to have bought in. The Hispanics not so much.

  250. @njguy73

    We should try hard to come up with something catchy.
     
    Cultural Marxists.

    "If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things." - Analects of Confucius, Chapter III

    It’s not as catchy and hurtful as “racist.” Also, for all his faults Marx hated regressive tendencies of the left and immigration:

    […] Owing to the constantly increasing concentration of leaseholds, Ireland constantly sends her own surplus to the English labour market, and thus forces down wages and lowers the material and moral position of the English working class.

    And most important of all! Every industrial and commercial centre in England now possesses a working class divided into two hostile camps, English proletarians and Irish proletarians. The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A.. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.

    This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organisation. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this.

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1870/letters/70_04_09.htm

  251. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Over half of the NFL owners are now Jewish. They have massively insulted their core audience, patriotic lower middle and working class whites.

    But I think the key turning point was allowing Beyonce to due her solute to the Black Panthers during the 2016 Super Bowl half time. It signaled to Kaepernick he could get away with his radical politics. The Derb was right when he called it back then.

    There is no way the Jewish NFL ownership did not discuss in private allowing racial politics and for that matter gay politics starting with the Michael Sams case back in 2014 to enter into the prole-feed propaganda they peddle.

    Are you taking a look at the commercials the NFL channels and the major Networks are packaging along with the football???

    Where the NFL owners have really messed up was moving the St Louis Rams and San Diego Chargers to LA.

    Who wants to go to a game at LA Coliseum in case a race war breaks out???

    I would never ever attend a game in Los Angeles at any major arena or the LA Coliseum for a number of reasons.

    1) Cost of parking.
    2) Distance of parking lot to entrance
    3) Insane cost of food and drink.
    4) The clientele.
    5) The walk back to the car at night.

    Even if you get free tickets. You are spending roughly $40 for parking, a soda and a dog. F**k that!!

    Unless the LAPD is out there in numbers you are risking your life to watch a bunch of black thugs run around astroturf.

    It’s time to let the NFL die.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    It’s time to let the NFL die.
     
    It appears to be attempting suicide right now.
  252. A college-educated woman identifying as a liberal Democrat…voted for [Trump] over Clinton because her husband’s job depends on the coal industry; she saw Trump as the candidate that would protect it, and by extension her family’s economic interests.

    “It’s the economy, stupid.” — Bill Clinton, 1992

  253. Something needs to be done about the existence of heterosexual reproduction.

    It’s been cited in this context already, but I simply must once again invoke the great Justin Roiland and Dan Harmon, who have addressed comprehensively what the outcome would really be for both the men and the women. Theirs really is the final word on the matter, dropping the microphone, as it were.

    • Replies: @BB753
    I liked the first season and part of the second season of "Rick and Morty" but it's been downhill since then. It's becoming more PC and it now revolves more and more around the insufferable female characters: Summer, Morty's liberal sister and their newly divorced mother, Beth.
  254. @keuril

    So which is more ‘heartbreaking’? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a “good man” to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?
     
    Overall, a great post; however, here, I think you mean a call, not a put. A call would mean she enjoys whatever upside in net worth her husband may accumulate if she is lucky to land somebody who strikes it rich. A put would be the floor, as in social security or workers comp in the case of disabling injury.

    The way I see it is that the “call” option is the marriage contract; buying into the upside, or said differently, exercising hypergamy, is baked-in.

    The value creation proposition is implied in the “price” of marriage. She assumes the marriage will increase in value, otherwise she isn’t inclined to marry.

    She pays for it with her sex, fertility, exclusivity, etc. all of which are null under no-fault divorce since the marriage contract stipulates no such investment on her part. While silent as to his provisioning as well, his duty to provide somehow survives the blunt blades of equality under the law, in practice.

    But even so, there is some sort of exchange made, so she does pay some price even if that just means no more Tindering or broom-closet sex with the ski instructor after work.

    If there is no upside she just pursues casual sex or maybe hangs around hoping he will get off his motorcycle and quit the band and maybe get some middling office job like her friends’ males. She’ll run this program through the starting offense, defense, and special teams for some # of years until she realizes she is “ready” for the whole package (beta bucks.)

    But the put option is unique to her. It is her right (not obligation) to sell the marriage contract back to him should she PERCEIVE his value (thus marital value) to decline or otherwise fail to me her (now) current return expectations. In theory, he has the same right, but there is almost always a massive cost to execute. Divorce initiation stats suggest as much.

    For her, the put is already priced-in as the right was fully vested on the wedding day and the cost for her to execute is minimal. Maybe its better worded as the eat-pray-love hedge? Anyhow, while the strike price isn’t set in advance, per se, she is typically allowed to realize (her half, or better) all of the gains that occurred under the marriage contract and she can sure enough do the math at any given point to solve for x.

    I have also read this all worded as the “threatpoint” in marriage. Which is probably more apt.

    Toss in kids (Think of the Children!!) and not only is the put free, but it lands the ejected husband somewhere between sharecropper and debtors prison, backed by the full powers of the State, aka violence. The put also places her as the de facto arbiter of the quality and quantity of his fatherhood. His rights as a father are contingent upon her satisfaction. The free put is her realizing this embedded power. That’s the gravy baby.

    Perhaps you are correct on the technical lingo, but I kinda like my way. As for all these unwed white women Hillary voters, its not too hard to see why merely showing up with girl parts isn’t getting men over the hump and into marriage with them. Keep the pun. Cheers.

  255. @Bel Riose
    Or perhaps it's due to another reason altogether.

    What evidence do you have (other than your own uninformed opinion, of course) to support your assertion?

    Or are you merely guessing?

    If you are not just speculating, support your claim with evidence.

    If you ARE merely guessing, come out and say so.

    Since insufferable, shrill pedantry is your M.O., there's no reason I shouldn't use it to hoist you by your own petard.

    I see that you finally came out of the woodwork. I’m surprised you came back. Recall you had asked me this question–“Sources and citations, please. Aren’t your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that “when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?”

    I supplied the requisite links. Somehow you avoided a rebuttal. Interesting to say the least.

    Now, you say “what evidence do you have (other than your own uninformed opinion, of course) to support your assertion?”

    Here is one source showing how and why fans are showing general support for their favorite NFL teams and players.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/take-a-knee-hashtag-nfl-players-donald-trump-kneeling-national-anthem

    “While the crowd in Huntsville cheered, a different sentiment spread across Twitter on Saturday morning. The hashtag #TakeAKnee was being used to urge solidarity with NFL players, like Colin Kaepernick, who have been protesting police brutality and racial inequality in America by kneeling during the national anthem. Trump had hoped to chastise players during his speech, but it may have only served to galvanize support in their favor. By Saturday afternoon, #TakeAKnee was the top trend on Twitter in the United States and being used to show solidarity with players who have decided to kneel.”

    Here is another source discussing the ratings “fallout”.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-md-ravens-fans-react-to-protests-20170925-story.html

    “Leffler said the NFL has responded as well as possible to Trump’s statements. He said he expected some fans may indeed dump their tickets in protest, although that may not mean more empty seats.
    “Somebody else will buy them,” Leffler said. “I think there will be an effect, but I don’t think people will stay home in droves.” Most fans, of course, watch the games on television or online, rather than in person. Nationally, NFL viewership was a mixed bag on Sunday, with CBS reporting an overall 4 percent increase in viewership over the same week last year, while NBC and Fox’s early ratings were down 10 percent and 16 percent, respectively…Leffler and Boyd said that viewership is harder to measure these days, with many fans either watching livestreams online, or highlight shows that allow them to follow individual players for fantasy leagues rather than entire games.”

    “Since insufferable, shrill pedantry is your M.O.”

    Same old projection schtick on your part.

  256. @Autochthon

    Something needs to be done about the existence of heterosexual reproduction.
     
    It's been cited in this context already, but I simply must once again invoke the great Justin Roiland and Dan Harmon, who have addressed comprehensively what the outcome would really be for both the men and the women. Theirs really is the final word on the matter, dropping the microphone, as it were.

    I liked the first season and part of the second season of “Rick and Morty” but it’s been downhill since then. It’s becoming more PC and it now revolves more and more around the insufferable female characters: Summer, Morty’s liberal sister and their newly divorced mother, Beth.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    I’ve only just begun the third season; I shall be disappointed if your assessment rings true. I generally find only one or two programmes worth watching at any given time: Trailer Park Boys, The Boondocks, Black Jesus, Bob’s Burgers. (Toonova for the win.)

    Mostly relatively inane, apolitical stuff; don’t seek profundity in television and ye shan’t be disappointed.

  257. @Rod1963
    I would never ever attend a game in Los Angeles at any major arena or the LA Coliseum for a number of reasons.

    1) Cost of parking.
    2) Distance of parking lot to entrance
    3) Insane cost of food and drink.
    4) The clientele.
    5) The walk back to the car at night.

    Even if you get free tickets. You are spending roughly $40 for parking, a soda and a dog. F**k that!!

    Unless the LAPD is out there in numbers you are risking your life to watch a bunch of black thugs run around astroturf.

    It's time to let the NFL die.

    It’s time to let the NFL die.

    It appears to be attempting suicide right now.

  258. @Thomm

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin,
     
    Except that Trump is not a WN and never was. I support Trump too, but my disdain for WN losers (who are wastebaskets of genetic waste matter, as discussed before) is high.

    WN is a left-wing ideology, and always has been (the KKK was Democrat, Hitler was left-wing, and modern WNs have left-wing economic views).

    What are you doing here troll? There are streets still unshat upon.

  259. @L Woods
    White men are profoundly and intractably delusional about women. They have internalized the "gender equality" schtick to an astonishing extent, irrespective of their place on the political spectrum. Even hard edged red pill types don't have any better answers than disengagement (MGTOW) or "lift and maintain frame bruh" (PUAs). They will not and cannot do anything to "check" the feral menace that white women represent.

    Not so. Many of the thoughtful among us, after great and lengthy consideration, have imported white women from places where sanity about traditional rôles prevails or diligently sought out the few such women here. Our wives vehemently agree with us that they prefer being feminine heads of the hearth whilst we keep the world at bay; they eagerly defer to us when we do not agree after taking counsel. They are chief operating officers to our chief executive officers; executive officers to our commanding officers. What’s more, these arrangements give us an advantage over the sterile, the barren, and even those other couples and families who waste their energy pretending women and men are the same and farming out their children to the care of institutions.

  260. So Hillary’s memo to all US adult women: “During the election season, please STOP fraternizing with the enemy!”

  261. @Thomm

    Consider also how college whites with degrees supported Trump by a 4 point margin,
     
    Except that Trump is not a WN and never was. I support Trump too, but my disdain for WN losers (who are wastebaskets of genetic waste matter, as discussed before) is high.

    WN is a left-wing ideology, and always has been (the KKK was Democrat, Hitler was left-wing, and modern WNs have left-wing economic views).

    The way you repeat the talking points suggest either that: You truly believe the naive drivel that neocons have been peddling for roughly a generation. Or, you’re pulling the leg and attempting to sound like a worn out, cliched GOP Koolaid drinker.

    Wish we all could use the Flux Capacator and return back to ca.1980’s-90’s, when bad evil Democrats were waskally wibwul and all good GOPers were excellent conservatives. Why don’t you tell us what Rush Limbaugh has been saying lately for some real insightful commentary on libs vs. cons.

  262. I break/broke all ideas/rules/behavior..I blurt stuff out: I voted for Trump. Hillary is a psychopath: check out Hare’s Checklist. She scared the crap out of me in 1991. I was 30, so, not young. we dogged a sure-ass kill bullet.

  263. @Anonymous
    Obviously the solution is to outlaw straight marriage.

    I dunno….hating women (as a woman) works for me. Women in the USA are such hypocrites (very few exceptions) compared to all the women in the world who have already had female presidents; dissidents, PM’s, generals and head of defense, doctors, lawyers, CEOs. Urban American women are just hysterical screamers of sexism who could never even load a gun!…or kill someone with their bare hands. They are not equal to so many women off the shores of the USA. Puerto Rican women are more stealth than American, spoiled, urban women right now.

  264. “…“Just being married makes women more conservative in their vote choice,” said Kretschmer. …”

    bored identity is cringing to maintain a civil tone, but an inconvenient truth is Every.Single.Time. …. still there.

    Without further ado, bored identity presents you with Neue Frauen- From Weimar to Weimerica:

    ” My grandmother, Anna Martha Unger, was 15 years old at the end of the 1920s.

    It was a brilliant age to revel in the fashion trends rolling in from Berlin and Paris – even in her small hometown of Johanngeorgenstadt, in a mining region in eastern Germany’s Ore Mountains.

    My grandmother craved the “bob” haircut of the day, but her father was vehemently against it.

    He didn’t like women with short hair, women who probably also wanted to pull on trousers rather than skirts.”

    That was exactly the type of women of whom Dortmund-based photographer Annelise Kretschmer took portraits.

    “More and more of them were emerging all the time,” said Thomas Linden, curator of the exhibition “Annelise Kretschmer – Discoveries. Photographs from 1922 to 1975” in Cologne’s Käthe Kollowitz Museum.

    These pioneering women, largely from middle-class backgrounds, were no longer willing to squeeze themselves into the corsets of German Empire traditions.

    They were already choosing their own professions and seeking egalitarian marriages.

    This new emancipation was expressing itself in fashion, too.

    “Newspapers like the ‘Westdeutsche Illustrierte Zeitung’ were propagating this new female image,” said Linden.

    “The women were wearing their hair short and donning caps on their heads – it was a more androgynous look.”

    The “New Women” (Neue Frauen) were born.

    Annelise Kretschmer was just 26 years old when she opened her photography studio on the second floor of her parent’s home in Dortmund.

    She was the first woman to have done so in Germany, then known as the Weimar Republic.

    “I wanted a family, but at the same time, I wanted to carry on with my work,” she said in a 1982 interview.

    “Even after I got married, it was obvious I would continue working.”

    (…)

    “She was one of many “New Women” trailblazers of the Weimar Republic – until the Nazis came along.”

    http://www.dw.com/en/photographer-annelise-kretschmer-rattled-the-1920s-art-world/a-19556618

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    B.I., it sounds like this woman would have felt right at home in Chairman Mao era Red China. Besides being able to fit right in with the short hair, she could have saved money keeping it that way, as the Red Commie Cosmologists* made due with just a rice bowl and pair of aluminum-sheet shears (borrowed from the tool crib at Motherland AeroRocket Plant 1)

    She would also have had her choice of colors in apparel, Chairman Mao grey or Chairman Mao blue. No one would know she was even a woman except at the morning exercise-struggle sessions during "toe-touching for the Motherland". You were supposed to look down at your toes, but ...
    .
    .
    .
    Yes, I meant what I wrote - they could cut hair AND work out ballistic trajectories - they've finally got their due justice in the theaters all over the land with the release of the motion picture "Hidden Scissors".
  265. No, it has to be short, distinctive, and devastating. Something both fitting and universally loathsome. How about “Parasites”?

    That’s what all these groups are when you cut through all their BS. Societal parasites. They don’t contribute, in fact they do nothing but replicate, consume, and sicken their hosts. The spreaders of BS degrees are like viruses with the universities as infected cells- the Grievance Studies programs do nothing more than produce more Grievance Studies viri until the hosts die under the load (see: Mizzou). SJW types trying to take over institutions are like Sacculina and certain parasitic fungi, turning the infected institution into a lobotomized zombie that sacrifices itself to aid the parasites. Others are more like roundworms or tapeworms, filling the guts of our society with sullen idlers and a profusion of unnecessary BS job holders like “diversity officer” who siphon off a huge amount of resources generated by the productive citizenry.

    For that is the core of this culture war: The Producers vs. The Parasites. And that is how the propaganda war should be fought. Nobody likes Parasites, or would like being labeled one. Parasites are gross, and their huge diversity is not seen as a positive thing. Infestation by parasites is a problem to be cured, not a “progress” to be celebrated. Parasite behavior is not the kind any sane or self-respecting person would consider moral or wise, and the same inference should be drawn for humans who’re acting as parasites and ideologies that valorize parasitic behaviors. After all, nobody wants to be lectured at by a humanoid flatworm, regardless of whether its politics are “left” or “right”.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    In that case, can we all start using the term "TRANSFECT," the deliberate introduction of outside DNA into a cell via a foreign agency? Like, the import of Muslims into the West can be phrased as: "We are being TRANSFECTED by the injection of Muslims into our body politic."
  266. @Buzz Mohawk
    So, we are to think that it's great that practically all blacks vote on the basis of race, and terrible that some females don't vote on the basis of sex.

    White married women are more likely to think critically and not vote for a candidate just because she has a vagina. It's that simple.

    Astonishing to have them outright admit they believe marriage means white women get all their ideas from their menfolk.

    Also to have them admit their belief that a brain can’t function with a married vagina at the other end of the spinal column. They truly out-Victoria the Victorians.

    Hillary Rodham’s bitter struggle against and compulsive reliving of the reality of November clearly has underpinnings in narcissism and habits of resentment, blame, and lust for power.

    But I see another aspect to it.

    Imagine her torment to realize that she sold her soul over half a century to demons for power, money, and fame…

    …in pursuit of her uber-goal, the one thing that would make the winding twisting dark path worthwhile…

    …the thing that drove her on like a thousand whips…

    …only to be thwarted…

    …by white women who have the one thing she truly wanted more than all that:

    A marriage.

    IME those women voters (like the love of my life) recognize someone hostile to themselves and their loved ones.

    It’s not just or mostly economic. There is a female instinct in these things, deep in its perceptions, canny in its conclusions. Mencken wrote about it. LomL described Hillary back in 2006 or 7 as “akin to long-curdled milk.”

    • Agree: Bernardista
  267. @guest
    "It's funny too how the 'feminists' so effortlessly assume that the male is dominant in the relationship."

    Feminists make arguments in favor of the patriarchy all the time. For instance, with the Male Gaze and Rape Culture stuff. They're basically saying "Women are vulnerable and defenseless, they'll never not be afraid of strange men (all men, really), so they need our help." I beginning to think feminism is just one, giant unconscious cry for help.

    I beginning to think feminism is just one, giant unconscious cry for help.

    This.

    One of my affections for HBD in general is how it can make sense of certain behavioral or psychological patterns. Possibly tying those back to biology/evolution. And certainly, in achieving that, freeing us somewhat from propaganda, ideology, and myth. Or at least supplying another place to stand.

    However, the earliest feminism and drive for the female vote was in large part an effort to offset the votes of the lower IQ/non-founding-stock/outside-the-Hajnal-Line immigrant floods of the 1880s-19-teens and help retain national character. (I was even told that by my paternal grandparents.)

    It was flipped in the 1960s into a way to drown out those white votes demographically and deliberately reshape the nation into something more idiocratic and mass-driven, with power accruing to whoever could flood the nation with bodies then flog them into compliance with a political program.

    The powers that be are not going to stop now, as evidenced by that NYT comment I shared that tips the Dems’ hand for 2020: flyover state whites have TOO MUCH POWER with their votes as the Constitution stands, and only the coastal megalopolises, and maybe Chicago, must be allowed to choose our elected leaders.

  268. @BB753
    I liked the first season and part of the second season of "Rick and Morty" but it's been downhill since then. It's becoming more PC and it now revolves more and more around the insufferable female characters: Summer, Morty's liberal sister and their newly divorced mother, Beth.

    I’ve only just begun the third season; I shall be disappointed if your assessment rings true. I generally find only one or two programmes worth watching at any given time: Trailer Park Boys, The Boondocks, Black Jesus, Bob’s Burgers. (Toonova for the win.)

    Mostly relatively inane, apolitical stuff; don’t seek profundity in television and ye shan’t be disappointed.

    • Replies: @BB753
    I don't know about those shows but if they managed to turn Homer Simpson into an Obama voter, then every show can become political.

    Do you think that The Community is an apolitical show? Dan Harmon, before creating Rick and Morty with Justin Roiland, was a writer and co-producer of that series.

  269. @kihowi
    "Why isn't it the other way round" is about the most important question you can ask if you want to understand anything. Which is why you can't remember it being asked, ever.

    Why don't Moslimas force Muslims to wear veils?

    Why didn't Africans colonize Europe?

    Thanks. Great comment.

    The use of counterfactuals (as you suggest) are an outstanding intellectual tactic for understanding the world around you. As you suggest, it is very useful to ask yourself why are things as they are and not otherwise (A rather than not A!). It sounds simple but most people do not bother doing it much.

    Another useful type of counterfactual that helps one to understanding things and improve your life, is to ask yourself, especially when unhappy, “what would really make me happy? or what would be the best of all possible worlds?”

    You will probably discover that some people or situations are disappointing you in ways that you were taking for granted but which are changeable. Too many people take their environment and the behavior of people for granted.

    You might end up improving your life by talking to these people or trying to change the situation or changing yourself or even finding new people or situations. Or you may even decide to adapt to the disappointments and learn to live with them depending on your current circumstances.

    A corollary which is an antonym of this, is that when things are going good you might ask yourself “what would make me unhappy now.” This might remind you to be good to your loved ones and to shore up relationships even when they don’t seem to need tending to (and BTW they always do need tending to).

    Anyone else have any useful brief tips or mental tools, heuristics, or attitudes, for getting along in the world?

    Don’t want to hijack the thread, but a few useful ideas would be great.

  270. @Reg Cæsar

    Democratic women have vaginas.

    Republican women actually use their vaginas.
     
    Exactly. Genital duets trump vagina monologues.

    And that's an Everest even Hillary can't scale.

    Dang, we’re gettin’ pretty poetic around here. Too bad I can’t repeat any of it to respectable folk.

    What’s the corollary to males and their reproductive apparati?

  271. @keuril

    So which is more ‘heartbreaking’? To have a woman place the livelihood of her family at the core of her vote or to have a post-wall woman desperately hoping to jump off the carousel but unable to find a “good man” to cushion her landing with a diamond ring and a free put-option on his productivity?
     
    Overall, a great post; however, here, I think you mean a call, not a put. A call would mean she enjoys whatever upside in net worth her husband may accumulate if she is lucky to land somebody who strikes it rich. A put would be the floor, as in social security or workers comp in the case of disabling injury.

    I think there are two ways to look at this. In a way it is a “spread.”

    In other words when a woman marries her husband the marriage contact operates as both a call and a put for the woman.

    The marriage contact operates as a call , as you suggest, on her husband ‘s future earnings (which she hopes will go up). She is sacrificing some youth, fertility, resources, and exclusivity to purchase this option to participate in it.

    The marriage contract also operates as a put, since she gets a price now (the right to his future earnings), which operates as a “floor” for the possible (inevitable?) decline in the value of her youth, beauty, and resources.

    Any financial traders here have another way of looking at this relationship from the perspective of options trading?

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    If only it were that simple...
  272. Hillary says this as if men are the pushy, intolerant ones when it comes to politics. After the election I wrote one post on Facebook stating why I voted for Trump over Clinton. SFAIK, all of the people who “defriended” me were women, save one petulant little gay shit who is often mistaken for a woman.

    Women tend to be the ideological enforcers – the ones who brook no dissent from whatever dumbass dogma is making the rounds at the moment. The last gf I had before I met my wife was like that. When we had political disagreements I tended to take a live and let live approach, while she would drag the argument on for hours on end.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Women tend to be the ideological enforcers – the ones who brook no dissent from whatever dumbass dogma is making the rounds at the moment.
     
    Yes, we all went to middle school.
  273. She REALLY doesn’t get it, does she?
    Conservative women are perfectly capable of voting for whomever they want. There’s a curtain or blinders on the booth, so they can even LIE about it to hubby to keep the peace. “Why, yes, Sugah, Ah voted for Governuh Grabawench just lahk we talked about.”
    I’m guessing women who fit her demographic grew up with at least one virtue-signallin’, petition-shillin’ cause-junkie like Hillary, and hated her like rat poison. They can recognize another of the same ilk. THAT is why Hillary lost that segment.

  274. @bored identity



    "...“Just being married makes women more conservative in their vote choice,” said Kretschmer. …"

     

    bored identity is cringing to maintain a civil tone, but an inconvenient truth is Every.Single.Time. .... still there.

    Without further ado, bored identity presents you with Neue Frauen- From Weimar to Weimerica:




    " My grandmother, Anna Martha Unger, was 15 years old at the end of the 1920s.

    It was a brilliant age to revel in the fashion trends rolling in from Berlin and Paris – even in her small hometown of Johanngeorgenstadt, in a mining region in eastern Germany's Ore Mountains.

    My grandmother craved the "bob" haircut of the day, but her father was vehemently against it.

    He didn't like women with short hair, women who probably also wanted to pull on trousers rather than skirts."

    That was exactly the type of women of whom Dortmund-based photographer Annelise Kretschmer took portraits.

    "More and more of them were emerging all the time," said Thomas Linden, curator of the exhibition "Annelise Kretschmer - Discoveries. Photographs from 1922 to 1975" in Cologne's Käthe Kollowitz Museum.

    These pioneering women, largely from middle-class backgrounds, were no longer willing to squeeze themselves into the corsets of German Empire traditions.

    They were already choosing their own professions and seeking egalitarian marriages.

    This new emancipation was expressing itself in fashion, too.

    "Newspapers like the 'Westdeutsche Illustrierte Zeitung' were propagating this new female image," said Linden.

    "The women were wearing their hair short and donning caps on their heads - it was a more androgynous look."

    The "New Women" (Neue Frauen) were born.


    Annelise Kretschmer was just 26 years old when she opened her photography studio on the second floor of her parent's home in Dortmund.

    She was the first woman to have done so in Germany, then known as the Weimar Republic.

    "I wanted a family, but at the same time, I wanted to carry on with my work," she said in a 1982 interview.

    "Even after I got married, it was obvious I would continue working."

    (...)

    "She was one of many "New Women" trailblazers of the Weimar Republic - until the Nazis came along."


    http://www.dw.com/en/photographer-annelise-kretschmer-rattled-the-1920s-art-world/a-19556618

     

    B.I., it sounds like this woman would have felt right at home in Chairman Mao era Red China. Besides being able to fit right in with the short hair, she could have saved money keeping it that way, as the Red Commie Cosmologists* made due with just a rice bowl and pair of aluminum-sheet shears (borrowed from the tool crib at Motherland AeroRocket Plant 1)

    She would also have had her choice of colors in apparel, Chairman Mao grey or Chairman Mao blue. No one would know she was even a woman except at the morning exercise-struggle sessions during “toe-touching for the Motherland”. You were supposed to look down at your toes, but …
    .
    .
    .
    Yes, I meant what I wrote – they could cut hair AND work out ballistic trajectories – they’ve finally got their due justice in the theaters all over the land with the release of the motion picture “Hidden Scissors”.

  275. @Ivy
    I hate to be uncharitable, but don't the following quotes from Clinton and Kretschmer imply that white women shouldn't be in positions of authority if they are that susceptible to pressure?

    Women will be under tremendous pressure – and I’m talking principally about white women.
     
    Clinton

    “We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”
     
    Kretschmer

    I think what they’re actually saying is that they recognize that some white women are not as tractable as others when it comes to doing what a few powerful, or power-aspiring, women (and their globillionaire puppeteers) want them to.

    In the minds of women like this there is no bigger crime than that a woman think for herself. Worse if she also consults men she knows, likes, trusts, respects, or loves for their ideas on things.

    So I doubt there’s any pressure of this sort outside of their fantasies involving other women’s marriages/families.

    But id-frustrated gals like HRC can’t stop wanting all women to marry the state (her as their husband-king) or viewing all women as princesses needing saving (her as white knight/warrior) and correcting (her as pope).

    This reflects the old Indo-European tripartite social order that runs so deeply in the I-E psyche (king, priest, warrior).

    Women trying to take this up using the state and force is psychologically and mythically bent/twisted…but remember, it’s the libs/Dems/progs who don’t believe in biology. Thus for them politics and law are a sort of gender reassignment surgery. Power is a kind of magic for them. Which is why Chaos Magick was such a perfect weapon to use against HRC.

    It’s at the point of losing any skirmish, never mind battle or war, that you see how clearly these women are not up to the task of leadership. Their egos cannot stand even a particle of dissent. Every loss is a catastrophe. This is how we get “microaggressions,” rape cakes, etc.

    Finally, women like Clinton and Kretschmer always project.

    I mean, c’mon–“marriage = political pressure”?

    Hillary herself married a 14-karat turdbucket and didn’t dump his sorry glutes on multiple occasions when she should have. All because she wanted in on the power he was so good at seizing. The married white women I know who loathe her all observed her doing that.

    This offers a delicious additional bit of schadenfreude: I imagine Hillary well realizes that many married white women voted against both the Clintons. Hillary’s political rocket ship turned into an anchor. No wonder she’s bitter about other women’s marriages…which in many cases liberate women from the need to conform to what the Hillarys of the world tell them to think.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Re biology: There is much SchadenFreud(tm, jk) about Hillary. There may also be a less publicized component of SchadenJung for the public and for her. Clinton's life path seems to include a struggle against what is represented in Jungian archetypes as if she wanted to remake those in her own image or just ignore them when inconvenient.

    Biology, like Mother Nature, is ignored at one's peril, and another generation will insist on not noticing and not tolerating those that do notice in addition to learning those lessons the hard way. Somebody with a curated cat food and cat litter delivery service in DC, Chappaqua and similar locales could clean up ;p
  276. @Olorin
    I think what they're actually saying is that they recognize that some white women are not as tractable as others when it comes to doing what a few powerful, or power-aspiring, women (and their globillionaire puppeteers) want them to.

    In the minds of women like this there is no bigger crime than that a woman think for herself. Worse if she also consults men she knows, likes, trusts, respects, or loves for their ideas on things.

    So I doubt there's any pressure of this sort outside of their fantasies involving other women's marriages/families.

    But id-frustrated gals like HRC can't stop wanting all women to marry the state (her as their husband-king) or viewing all women as princesses needing saving (her as white knight/warrior) and correcting (her as pope).

    This reflects the old Indo-European tripartite social order that runs so deeply in the I-E psyche (king, priest, warrior).

    Women trying to take this up using the state and force is psychologically and mythically bent/twisted...but remember, it's the libs/Dems/progs who don't believe in biology. Thus for them politics and law are a sort of gender reassignment surgery. Power is a kind of magic for them. Which is why Chaos Magick was such a perfect weapon to use against HRC.

    It's at the point of losing any skirmish, never mind battle or war, that you see how clearly these women are not up to the task of leadership. Their egos cannot stand even a particle of dissent. Every loss is a catastrophe. This is how we get "microaggressions," rape cakes, etc.

    Finally, women like Clinton and Kretschmer always project.

    I mean, c'mon--"marriage = political pressure"?

    Hillary herself married a 14-karat turdbucket and didn't dump his sorry glutes on multiple occasions when she should have. All because she wanted in on the power he was so good at seizing. The married white women I know who loathe her all observed her doing that.

    This offers a delicious additional bit of schadenfreude: I imagine Hillary well realizes that many married white women voted against both the Clintons. Hillary's political rocket ship turned into an anchor. No wonder she's bitter about other women's marriages...which in many cases liberate women from the need to conform to what the Hillarys of the world tell them to think.

    Re biology: There is much SchadenFreud(tm, jk) about Hillary. There may also be a less publicized component of SchadenJung for the public and for her. Clinton’s life path seems to include a struggle against what is represented in Jungian archetypes as if she wanted to remake those in her own image or just ignore them when inconvenient.

    Biology, like Mother Nature, is ignored at one’s peril, and another generation will insist on not noticing and not tolerating those that do notice in addition to learning those lessons the hard way. Somebody with a curated cat food and cat litter delivery service in DC, Chappaqua and similar locales could clean up ;p

  277. @Autochthon
    I’ve only just begun the third season; I shall be disappointed if your assessment rings true. I generally find only one or two programmes worth watching at any given time: Trailer Park Boys, The Boondocks, Black Jesus, Bob’s Burgers. (Toonova for the win.)

    Mostly relatively inane, apolitical stuff; don’t seek profundity in television and ye shan’t be disappointed.

    I don’t know about those shows but if they managed to turn Homer Simpson into an Obama voter, then every show can become political.

    Do you think that The Community is an apolitical show? Dan Harmon, before creating Rick and Morty with Justin Roiland, was a writer and co-producer of that series.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Never seen it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Please realise: I watch about two hours’ worth of “television” each month. Maybe. And that is of programmes recommended by others or encountered in trustworthy contexts I then choose to seek out via platforms like Toonova. I don’t own a television, subscribe to cable, etc.

    I do also watch (or, more commonly, have on whilst I work) programmes about the news, like Tucker Carlson’s; but precisely because most ostensible entertainment is painfully vapid, propogandistic, or both, I generally avoid it.

    I don’t mean to seem sanctimonious, but if more people would similarly limit their exposure to the dreck that is mass media and spend all the time
    they waste staring at an idiot box doing something – anything! – productive (exercise, reading, painting, talking with other human beings, writing, teaching their children, taking up the saxophone...) sociopolitical problems, poverty, and ill health would all be dramatically reduced.

  278. “We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”

    The key distinction, according to Kretschmer’s research, is that single women tend to cast votes with the fate of all women in mind, while women married to men vote on behalf of their husbands and families

    This is so scurrilous and outrageous, I can’t even. . .

    I suppose this is a distillation of the concept that identity politics is everything. These passages try to analyze the identity politics of a white single woman versus the identity politics of a white married woman, i.e., in the latter case, she somehow submits her agency to her husband, or at best becomes a fusion of her identity politics plus those of her husband. (By the term “ideology,” the author really means “identity”.)

    Nothing about values or economic interests or underlying characteristics (such as actual ideology) of white women who form stable homes.

    So when men pressure their wives to vote a certain way, does that occur before of after they beat them on Super Bowl Sunday?

  279. @The Anti-Gnostic
    I remember a great exchange between Porter and Mangan over one of Tyler Cowen's posts on Marginal Revolution. Cowen rhapsodized on the prospect of Americans getting used to their future cumin-flavored bean diets. Porter asked whether this cloistered academic really thought his beloved Oompa-Loompas would stay quiescent over their legume-dominated repasts while he sups on organic kaeng phet. Mangan responded no, Cowen rarely gives much thought to the prospect of revolutions and people being slaughtered in their beds.

    A perspective different from Cowen's seems to be taking hold in the NFL owner's suites. This is a bottom-up revolt from the black-dominated locker rooms and the planter-class is nervous. It's inexplicable to me--why would a bunch of white billionaires pivot to their employees over the folks in the stands actually paying the bills? But I'm not on the inside, and can only surmise that something else is going on that's making the owners blink.

    It’s inexplicable to me–why would a bunch of white billionaires pivot to their employees over the folks in the stands actually paying the bills? But I’m not on the inside, and can only surmise that something else is going on that’s making the owners blink.

    It’s because adherence to the narrative has become more important than profits in business today, especially big, high-profile business. We see examples every day, e.g., the second-generation Murdochs, who even admitted that Fox News embarrassed them in front of their fancy friends.

    I think that it’s more true in the NFL than even in Silicon Valley because of who the owners are. The majority are not entrepreneurs who built their teams, or any previous business endeavors that provided them the wherewithal to buy their teams, through their own skill, but rather are spoiled born-rich kids.

    Of course there are exceptions, but one good example is Jed York of the San Francisco 49ers. He’s a thirty-something brat whose daddy made him team president in his 20s. He’s never run anything other than in the family business. These people are more heredity oligarchs than hard-working, savvy business people.

    Those who are true entrepreneurs don’t fit into the club, e.g., in the NBA, Mark Cuban, who has been excoriated for political incorrectness from time to time, or Donald Sterling or Bruce Levenson — who in addition to being hounded out of polite society for “racism” borne from noticing business patterns relevant to their bottom line — have their blue-collar, started-from-nothing backgrounds in common.

    It’s not surprising at all that most sports owners see their constituency as the New York cocktail party set more than the rubes who sit in the stands. Pro sports team owners — they don’t make ’em like they used to.

  280. @Tiny Duck
    With your attitude I doubt very seriously you have ever touched a woman, let alone a Woman of Color

    Why would I want to touch a WoC when there are so many beautiful white women?

    You can have my share TD.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    To be fair to The Duck, many (most?) white women – physically beautiful and otherwise – are now brainwashed pod-people working to destroy their own race, if not by miscegenation, then by outright insistence on remaining barren (“muh body,” “muh career,” “the patriarchy!,” etc.); I can certainly imagine a white man deciding that reproducing with a female of another race (an Oriental would probably be his best best) at least means his line does not utterly die out.
  281. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    Children.

  282. @Seneca
    I think there are two ways to look at this. In a way it is a "spread."

    In other words when a woman marries her husband the marriage contact operates as both a call and a put for the woman.

    The marriage contact operates as a call , as you suggest, on her husband 's future earnings (which she hopes will go up). She is sacrificing some youth, fertility, resources, and exclusivity to purchase this option to participate in it.

    The marriage contract also operates as a put, since she gets a price now (the right to his future earnings), which operates as a "floor" for the possible (inevitable?) decline in the value of her youth, beauty, and resources.

    Any financial traders here have another way of looking at this relationship from the perspective of options trading?

    If only it were that simple…

  283. @BB753
    I don't know about those shows but if they managed to turn Homer Simpson into an Obama voter, then every show can become political.

    Do you think that The Community is an apolitical show? Dan Harmon, before creating Rick and Morty with Justin Roiland, was a writer and co-producer of that series.

    Never seen it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Please realise: I watch about two hours’ worth of “television” each month. Maybe. And that is of programmes recommended by others or encountered in trustworthy contexts I then choose to seek out via platforms like Toonova. I don’t own a television, subscribe to cable, etc.

    I do also watch (or, more commonly, have on whilst I work) programmes about the news, like Tucker Carlson’s; but precisely because most ostensible entertainment is painfully vapid, propogandistic, or both, I generally avoid it.

    I don’t mean to seem sanctimonious, but if more people would similarly limit their exposure to the dreck that is mass media and spend all the time
    they waste staring at an idiot box doing something – anything! – productive (exercise, reading, painting, talking with other human beings, writing, teaching their children, taking up the saxophone…) sociopolitical problems, poverty, and ill health would all be dramatically reduced.

    • Replies: @BB753
    Ok, but you do watch Rick and Morty! Rest assured I hardly watch TV. And I never go to the movies. Books and the internet provide superior entertainment.
  284. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/michelle-obama-women-voters/index.html

    … “Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice,” she said at the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston, according to video from inside the event.

    “What does it mean for us as women that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he’s better for me, his voice is more true to me,” Obama said. “Well, to me that just says you don’t like your voice. You like the thing you’re told to like.”

  285. @Autochthon
    Never seen it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Please realise: I watch about two hours’ worth of “television” each month. Maybe. And that is of programmes recommended by others or encountered in trustworthy contexts I then choose to seek out via platforms like Toonova. I don’t own a television, subscribe to cable, etc.

    I do also watch (or, more commonly, have on whilst I work) programmes about the news, like Tucker Carlson’s; but precisely because most ostensible entertainment is painfully vapid, propogandistic, or both, I generally avoid it.

    I don’t mean to seem sanctimonious, but if more people would similarly limit their exposure to the dreck that is mass media and spend all the time
    they waste staring at an idiot box doing something – anything! – productive (exercise, reading, painting, talking with other human beings, writing, teaching their children, taking up the saxophone...) sociopolitical problems, poverty, and ill health would all be dramatically reduced.

    Ok, but you do watch Rick and Morty! Rest assured I hardly watch TV. And I never go to the movies. Books and the internet provide superior entertainment.

  286. “We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”

    So America was like the “The Handmaid’s tale” BEFORE Trump was elected, after 2 terms of Obama.

  287. @Jim Don Bob
    Why would I want to touch a WoC when there are so many beautiful white women?

    You can have my share TD.

    To be fair to The Duck, many (most?) white women – physically beautiful and otherwise – are now brainwashed pod-people working to destroy their own race, if not by miscegenation, then by outright insistence on remaining barren (“muh body,” “muh career,” “the patriarchy!,” etc.); I can certainly imagine a white man deciding that reproducing with a female of another race (an Oriental would probably be his best best) at least means his line does not utterly die out.

  288. @The Last Real Calvinist

    But that wouldn’t fit the bias that women have no agency and are pressured into voting conservative.

     

    You must remember that only straight white men have agency, and hence they can be held responsible for everything.

    The funniest part of the this article is the tacit admission that while horrid white men influence their women, those same women are powerless when it comes to influencing their men.

    “Well…I don’t have to tell you that we’re run here by a Board of Selectmen. – All males vote at the age of twenty-one. Women vote indirect. We’re lower middle class: sprinkling of professional men… ten per cent illiterate laborers. Politically, we’re eight-six per cent Republicans; six per cent Democrats; four per cent Socialists; rest, indifferent.”
    Thornton Wilder, Our Town – emphasis added

  289. @Buck Turgidson
    Those darned men! If ladies only could learn how to run militaries, power water and water treatment plants, build houses and commercial buildings, install hvac, build maintain and repair cars, build and maintain roads, install electrical systems, and install and repair plumbing, they would be .5 way there.

    Anyone know a good female mechanic who works on toyota trucks? Would love to help em out

    Do Toyota trucks have limited slip differential and independent rear suspension?
    If not, I’m out.
    I have my standards.

  290. @The Last Real Calvinist
    I like 'the Woke', because of the way they fancy themselves as the Enlightened who 'get' all the coolness inherent to identity politics.

    It can be altered to 'Wokies' for the sake of convenience.

    But then you’ll have people advising you to “Let the Wokies Win.”

  291. @theo the kraut
    OT--I try to come up with a new term for lefties. Basically, they majored in shit studies and seek rents accordingly, that needs to be exposed to fight effectively. Shitlib is nice but a bit harsh and vulgar, also, it's just an insult, so it's not fitting for any situation. How about "rent-seekers," "corrupt left," "regressive left," "precarious progressives"? Steve proposed Ctrl-left once, but that's more of an in-joke, Joe Blow might not get it, also, that centres on their authoritarian streak, while exposing structural corruption should be better to shame them publicly. We should try hard to come up with something catchy. They call us racists or bigots, that's pretty good rhetorically, everybody gets what that's supposed to mean.

    I’ve always thought of them as the “Flower Power Mafiosi.”

  292. @Zyezek
    No, it has to be short, distinctive, and devastating. Something both fitting and universally loathsome. How about "Parasites"?

    That's what all these groups are when you cut through all their BS. Societal parasites. They don't contribute, in fact they do nothing but replicate, consume, and sicken their hosts. The spreaders of BS degrees are like viruses with the universities as infected cells- the Grievance Studies programs do nothing more than produce more Grievance Studies viri until the hosts die under the load (see: Mizzou). SJW types trying to take over institutions are like Sacculina and certain parasitic fungi, turning the infected institution into a lobotomized zombie that sacrifices itself to aid the parasites. Others are more like roundworms or tapeworms, filling the guts of our society with sullen idlers and a profusion of unnecessary BS job holders like "diversity officer" who siphon off a huge amount of resources generated by the productive citizenry.

    For that is the core of this culture war: The Producers vs. The Parasites. And that is how the propaganda war should be fought. Nobody likes Parasites, or would like being labeled one. Parasites are gross, and their huge diversity is not seen as a positive thing. Infestation by parasites is a problem to be cured, not a "progress" to be celebrated. Parasite behavior is not the kind any sane or self-respecting person would consider moral or wise, and the same inference should be drawn for humans who're acting as parasites and ideologies that valorize parasitic behaviors. After all, nobody wants to be lectured at by a humanoid flatworm, regardless of whether its politics are "left" or "right".

    In that case, can we all start using the term “TRANSFECT,” the deliberate introduction of outside DNA into a cell via a foreign agency? Like, the import of Muslims into the West can be phrased as: “We are being TRANSFECTED by the injection of Muslims into our body politic.”

  293. @Anonymous
    Wasn’t Hillary conservative to begin with and later became a Democrat due to pressure from her white male husband?

    Hillary campaigned for Barry. At the time, there was a kerfuffle because Barry had not been born in a U.S. state. (Arizona was still a territory.)

    After Goldwater lost and Hillary went to college, she became acquainted with the works and wonders of Saul Alinsky about whom she wrote her senior thesis. The rest is history, or rather, her story.

  294. @Anodynymous
    Hillary says this as if men are the pushy, intolerant ones when it comes to politics. After the election I wrote one post on Facebook stating why I voted for Trump over Clinton. SFAIK, all of the people who "defriended" me were women, save one petulant little gay shit who is often mistaken for a woman.

    Women tend to be the ideological enforcers - the ones who brook no dissent from whatever dumbass dogma is making the rounds at the moment. The last gf I had before I met my wife was like that. When we had political disagreements I tended to take a live and let live approach, while she would drag the argument on for hours on end.

    Women tend to be the ideological enforcers – the ones who brook no dissent from whatever dumbass dogma is making the rounds at the moment.

    Yes, we all went to middle school.

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