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Fleet Street newspaper columnists are not, traditionally, the fittest specimens, unless you are measuring right arms well-developed at lifting mugs and shot glasses. The lady who has recently been writing The Guardian’s fitness column seems to have come up with a novel excuse not to let her current assignment make her too fanatical in practicing her ostensible subject:
Do you boast about your fitness? Watch out – you’ll unavoidably become rightwing
Zoe Williams
I’m not sure what exercise does for your body, but I do know what it does to your personality. And it’s not pretty
… By 7am, someone had posted a picture of themselves doing a complicated yoga posture on a log, and I was as angry as a bull. The problem wasn’t the hashtagging; the problem is with fitness itself.
I have been writing a fitness column for a year and in this time I’ve digested very little about what exercise does for your body. I still have to Google what counts as maximum-intensity every time I feel moved to talk about it, which is all the time – but I know everything about what it does to your personality, and none of it is pretty.
When it comes to nature and nurture, I suspect different fitness regimens are one area where nurture stands a chance, especially in regard to influencing political views.
The problem for making sense out of which fitness method to practice is that human biodiversity means that what works for one person might not work for another. (Similar complications help explain why diet advice is such a mess.)
Really sad that the tweet Taleb was replying to here was deleted:
(picture of Paul Krugman in bike shorts and his Trumpy Cat t-shirt)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CavIJ3DW4AA4Z-f.jpg
Worked for me.
And as a self-professed libertine, your physical exertions were/are no doubt, prodigious, thereby lending you certain muscular and cardiovascular advantage ;)
Both of my grandfathers could have beaten the bejeezus out of almost all of the men that I know these days. Even at my advanced age, when I think of my physical fitness, I think of my grandparents and compare.
And they had a mental toughness that's very foreign to our times. They were quiet, humble, and capable men. And both of my grandmothers could no doubt take down most modern soy-fed pajama boy types.
Think clearly, do your push-ups.
Man I can’t make the effort to give a shit Steve .
She was a professional that’s how you get ahead girls and boys .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Branigan
And whatever luck we bring with us .
” I’d rather be lucky than good “
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Kyoungjong
Sometimes I wonder whether cyclists, runners and others engaged in public forms of exercise maintain their characteristic grimace of deadly endurance even if nobody’s around to admire them. Maybe Bishop Berkeley could help?
After a long bicycle ride or hike or walk or weight lifting or pull ups workout, God wants us to drink beer to replenish are souls and spirits from the exertion.
Obese people pay the idiot tax by way of ungodly fat.
God don't trust drinkwaters, and I got my suspicions about them too!
Trumpy is a drinkwater. That's not so nice.
So the left admit they’re unfit? #weightprivilege
Steve, what, if any, is your own exercise regimen?
Too much cardio ruins your gains.
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re DESTORY: That's not a typo, that's brilliant. That's exactly what people are trying to do when they fight over a narrative: to de-story their opponent.
This explains why Guardian reporters often die of heart disease in their 40s.
‘member him ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NMph943tsw
OT: YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
A Tennessee assistant principal was placed on administrative leave Wednesday after he recorded a video addressing a ban on athletic shorts, in which he suggested male students “blame the girls” for the ban.
“If you really want someone to blame, blame the girls, because they pretty much ruin everything,” Jared Hensley, who also serves as Soddy-Daisy High School’s athletic director, said in the video.
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/high-school-assistant-principal-bans-athletic-shorts-tells-boys-blame-the-girls/GsUnEqs5BQkjbSE922JKcJ/
This was luck !!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Kyoungjong
Blogging?
Steve, if going to the gym is inconvenient, do the following quick full-body workout every other day. We want you truckin’ along as you enter your seventh decade. One must stay stronk. (If you have a physical condition preventing you from exertion, my condolences.)
Warm up, stretch, and make sure you’ve got enough ceiling clearance for the thrusters. Start with 12- or 15-pound dumbbells. As you get stronger over time increase to 25 pounds each.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gczI5sINn9U
Do one set of 10-20 reps:
That Guardian article is a classic example of a columnist running up against a deadline without an idea. As far as I could tell, the whole argument was, "Fitness makes you feel strong and self-sufficient, which is right wing, implying that feeling week and dependent is left wing?"
We all know this.
But you are not just a bastard, and you are not just our bastard. You are the quintessential bastard. As such, you are obligated to exercise so that your talents are not cut short by the "sharp knife of a short life." If you don't live and blog until you are 105 years old I am going to find out where you buried and piss on your grave.
Schwarzenegger was kind of a RINO, but maybe that was the steroids, or Hollywood. I think Stallone is similar, but maybe they would be like Tim Robbins or Susan Surandon otherwise.
At a loss how Robbins as cast as a pitcher in "Bull Durham". Most MLB pitchers have thick muscular lower bodies, legs like tree trunks,whether that's Greg Maddux or Roger Clemens.And the physical requirements have become more pronounced as pitchers' average velocity has gone up.
Don’t forget to include all the hours spent looking at pictures of golf courses and examining baseball statistics.
Probably depends on how gimmicky your workout is. The readership of The Guardian should consider themselves safe if they use cow bells, or other such nonsense.
I'd say she's overwrought. As is often said when someone complains about another, "Sounds like a personal problem."
Just more Sailer's First Law of Female Journalism.
http://archive.is/tayzN
She never said which house and never pointed out which bed.
Has she even described the bed's style or pattern on the blanket or size of pillows etc?
1. Black guys are naturally muscular and fit
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms’
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
Also, most voters are out of school, and don't have to face midterms anymore. Grade away, Dems.
Go back to your chair in the corner and enjoy the show now.
Here's a secret TD - nobody missed you.
As for us having lost, we'll we've certainly been able to lose more body fat than you lot.
Or better yet, not put it on in the first place, chubby.
To take you to the next step of your training I’m going to give you numerical grades from now on. They’ll consist of the IQ of the person you are simulating. Your target will be to keep the simulated IQ in the range of 90 to 95. You scored a 93 on this post. Thank you for all your hard work.
‘member him ?
Brusteagle
I think this topic comes up so often because Steve is worried that if he lifts any more than his fingers, iSteve will turn into a blog of esoteric Aryan-Gulenism.
Here’s what I think of fitness :
It’s the same as with children. You finally have something worth conserving.
BREAKING: the person who doxxed #LindseyGraham and two other senators yesterday? The IP address belongs to Kathleen Sengstock, a “Legislative Director” in the House of Representatives for #MadMaxineWaters!!!
Well done, /pol/! Spread this to EVERY REAL NEWS OUTLET YOU CAN, #GabFam! THIS IS BIG!!!
https://8ch.net/pol/res/12204637.html
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
Since the whole thing is narrative, any “destorying” would harm them more than us.
Also, most voters are out of school, and don’t have to face midterms anymore. Grade away, Dems.
Does the IRS allow those as deductions?
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
Black ppl have a higher incidence of inter organ fat making them appear fit when they are usually anything but . Think black dudes that are slim and look ripped but have a big distended abdomen (still showing a 6 pack) . This is the most unhealthy way to store fat .Black ppl have the highest obesity, diabetes and hypertension risk and shortest life span.
Go back to your chair in the corner and enjoy the show now.
Zoe Williams’ cats, however, do hot yoga every other day and Zumba every weekend, so they’re not part of this sad statistic. They are not one bit rightwing, though.
He described it in a previous thread: there’s this closet, and it’s placed a certain distance from a window.
Too much cardio ruins your gains.
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re DESTORY: That’s not a typo, that’s brilliant. That’s exactly what people are trying to do when they fight over a narrative: to de-story their opponent.
I hope she’s right, because I’ve seen a rash of women in the gym lately. Maybe this fitness craze can even rescue a few wayward thots – but if not, at least we’ll have a more attractive class of catlady in a few decades.
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
We’ve been duckrolled .
When are we going to deal with foreign interference?
For once, the Guardian is correct: right-wingers are almost always fitter and stronger than left-wingers.
That’s why the left is populated with soyboys, bugmen, blue-haired tattooed fatties, and other specimens of indeterminate sex.
Most gym bros by contrast are fascists.
Was Fleetwood Mac a country band ?
That’s the most interesting argument for not exercising yet. You’ll become a righty!
I suspect there’s less useful variation than most people think. There’s a lot of surface diversity for marketing purposes.
If you want to lose weight, you can do Atkins, keto, South Beach, paleo, Dr. Bernstein, etc., which are all basically low carb diets.
If you want to get stronger, you can do Starting Strength, Strong Lifts, Wendler, etc. which are all basically barbell programs.
I like the idea of Double Ds...
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
Looks like TD got his blogging troll check just in time to weigh in on BK.
Here’s a secret TD – nobody missed you.
I got posts waiting .
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
African Americans are statistically speaking more prone to obesity than whites. Hardly evidence of greater fitness.
As for us having lost, we’ll we’ve certainly been able to lose more body fat than you lot.
Or better yet, not put it on in the first place, chubby.
> UNSOLICITED FITNESS ADVICE CORNER <
Steve, if going to the gym is inconvenient, do the following quick full-body workout every other day. We want you truckin’ along as you enter your seventh decade. One must stay stronk. (If you have a physical condition preventing you from exertion, my condolences.)
Warm up, stretch, and make sure you’ve got enough ceiling clearance for the thrusters. Start with 12- or 15-pound dumbbells. As you get stronger over time increase to 25 pounds each.
Do one set of 10-20 reps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj7Bmbr3UF0
I prefer this version…it is far less…..flaccid….
I thought Darwinian fitness when I read “fitness makes you rightwing”. Turns out the Guardian airhead was talking about grooming fitness, the kind that people living in population sinks do a lot of.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/16/majority-of-british-jews-will-be-ultra-orthodox-by-end-of-century-study-finds
It'll be interesting to see what long-term difference the Cameron/Osborne welfare reforms which limit future benefits to only two children makes (existing large families keep their benefits, but new ones only get benefits for two kids). A Corbyn government is likely to reverse the changes, of course.
his right to remain silent
Arnie didn’t start out RINO, but then all the nurses in California yelled at him in an elevator and he Flaked.
Most current age fitness models are childless narcissists using varying doses of synthetic testosterone to aide the shaping of their physiques. The irony of course, is that they all pedal the “go girl” and “anything a man can do” crap while supplementing with male hormones.
Zoe, those are not the right wingers you’re looking for.
I doubt it, sweetheart!
these people don’t bother to cite a “study “any more ,they just make things up. Of course most of the studies were bulls**t too.
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
Welcome back Tiny. We have all missed you.
Tiny Duck seems to think all black men look like the ones in the cuckold porn he faps to, a sure sign his image of black people comes from the media rather than rl experience.
But he has a point. Black men who are fit tend to vote Dem. of course, blacks are the most socially conservative group in the country, far more so than whites, but they vote Dem for the free gibmedats.
Wouldn’t surprise me if the Hispanics and Sikhs at my gym were the same way. But yeah, most of the white guys there are definitely right of center.
Resist this :
Germans waiting for the BBC . Well they’ve got it now . Happy bitches ?
Think how her old videos must torment her .
I was gonna say the same thing (or something nearly similar).
And as a self-professed libertine, your physical exertions were/are no doubt, prodigious, thereby lending you certain muscular and cardiovascular advantage 😉
Both of my grandfathers could have beaten the bejeezus out of almost all of the men that I know these days. Even at my advanced age, when I think of my physical fitness, I think of my grandparents and compare.
And they had a mental toughness that’s very foreign to our times. They were quiet, humble, and capable men. And both of my grandmothers could no doubt take down most modern soy-fed pajama boy types.
Talk about “wig in a box”.
She is a tragic character IMHO .
Christine Blasey Ford’s fantasy of that Kavanaugh guy :
Here's a secret TD - nobody missed you.
Speak for yourself. Tiny Duck is a great satirist. He is too on the nose too often to be expressing real beliefs. That half of you don’t get that it is satire of the left is naught more than Poe’s law in action.
To quote Carly Simon--no one does it better.
Search terms: "fish ohs tinys isteve"
Steve,
If you’re serious about blogging on fitness, you should reference at the same time the research showing that fitness improves mental functioning.
I.e., feeling tired and in a mental fog? Maybe that explains why you think Blasey Ford’s accusations are credible. A couple weeks of squats and ketosis and you’ll see reality clearly again…
Sadly, Sarandon is a season ticketholder of my favorite team, the New York Rangers. Robbins was too until they broke up. Madison Square Garden makes it a habit to announce celebrities in attendance. Though when our group have our annual outing we let Ms. Sarandon know in unison so that’s there’s no doubt what we think of her, along with some shouts about how Tim was right to send her packing.
At a loss how Robbins as cast as a pitcher in “Bull Durham”. Most MLB pitchers have thick muscular lower bodies, legs like tree trunks,whether that’s Greg Maddux or Roger Clemens.And the physical requirements have become more pronounced as pitchers’ average velocity has gone up.
It's worth reviewing Richard Ben Cramer's DiMaggio autobiography (pp.65) for comments on Lefty Gomez...I'd post a quote but Amazon and Google's tech is pretty good at keeping the text uncopyable.
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
td!!!! Where have you been? Did you just get out of county?
(European, I expect?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EXb9wYKa7w
In fairness Trudeau isn’t laughing at dead Asians, he’s doing that awkwardness tic that amoral thoughtless people think is not eminently slapworthy. He’s doing that thing that Paul Newman’s character’s son did at the beginning of Road To Perdition.
How often do you get in a round of golf?
That Guardian article is a classic example of a columnist running up against a deadline without an idea. As far as I could tell, the whole argument was, “Fitness makes you feel strong and self-sufficient, which is right wing, implying that feeling week and dependent is left wing?”
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
Our emotional support animal is back. We can fly like Christine Blasey Ford now.
I think mine would look like this:
https://sasscer.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/image16.jpg
Interesting. People who know nothing about some subject and are actually hostile to it are assigned to be columnists writing about it. Wonder how many unsuspecting readers read the column and assumed it came from a knowledgeable source? Probably a typical practice all across the board.
1. Lifting weights consistently for a few months is to realize that you can easily make your life much much better with the tiniest bit of research and discipline in the weight room.
2. Subsequently you will be in a position to observe that 85% of the population will go to any length to avoid taking responsibility for their fitness and would rather be slobs and complain.
3. These same folks, without exception, will consider themselves experts on diet, exercise and fitness, and will take any opportunity to lecture you, fit person, on what you are wrong about. The fitter you are, the more people will find reasons to insist that you are really the unhealthy one.
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I imagine the above experience may have a carryover effect as to how you observe other issues in society.
Also if you are younger and accidentally lift yourself into the top 5-10% of men in your area, you are about to get a sexy lesson in the more Darwinian aspects of sexual behaviour of the human female. If the seduction guys are any indication this is a one way ave to badthink in other areas.
British columnists are more likely to admit they don’t really know what they are talking about.
Maybe something to do with American schooling where everyone is expected and encouraged to have a view and all views are given equal weight no matter how dumb/ignorant/irrelevant
Non Americans fnd this exasperating
If right-wingers are in better shape than left-wingers it’s because right-wingers are shallow and mean.
If left-wingers are in better shape than right-wingers it’s because right-wingers are stupid and lazy.
See how easy that is to spin?
I’ve never noticed that right-wingers are more fit than left-wingers. If anything I’d guess the opposite. The only reason for most of that difference, I think, is that childless, unmarried young leftists have more time to spend in the gym and spend more time chasing after their next relationship.
It can sometimes be tough finding the time to stay in shape when you’re childless, and when the kids (especially when they’re very young) it’s sometimes damn near impossible – and that’s before even considering that a man’s testosterone goes down when he has kids.
The question is whether weightlifters are more right-wing than those who don't lift.
One form of exercise overlooked is available to some of us: Supplementing one’s workouts by working one’s own land. Try maintaining three acres and manually mowing an acre of grass on it with slopes and obstacles. Split and stack your own firewood and treat your wife to lots of warm fires in the winter. You’ll be in shape and she will reward you. You will become a believer in natural law, no political science terminology required.
They said you was high class but that was just a lie .
Hey Steve ? You’re not fake news are you ?
I’m calling it. The Ford investigation will blow up her so called credibility. As it played out, the allegations were devoid of fact. The FBI doesn’t care how she felt, which was her entire narrative.
Her idea of being heard was to make the charges anonymously and get the FBI to remember for her. If she doesn’t remember something, there isn’t much to investigate. Democrats doubled down on the FBI. I expect them to choke on it.
Jeff Flake has given Avenatti a wide opening for this coming week.
Steve, you are a bastard.
We all know this.
But you are not just a bastard, and you are not just our bastard. You are the quintessential bastard. As such, you are obligated to exercise so that your talents are not cut short by the “sharp knife of a short life.” If you don’t live and blog until you are 105 years old I am going to find out where you buried and piss on your grave.
“a bed” LOL.
She never said which house and never pointed out which bed.
Has she even described the bed’s style or pattern on the blanket or size of pillows etc?
If you want to lose weight, you can do Atkins, keto, South Beach, paleo, Dr. Bernstein, etc., which are all basically low carb diets.
If you want to get stronger, you can do Starting Strength, Strong Lifts, Wendler, etc. which are all basically barbell programs.
Agree.
Man’s basic nature is noble :
A women’s basic nature is treachery :
Hmmm … you sure it easn’t some form of poisoning by the Russians?
You are one burdensome editor , you feel me ?
2. Kavanaugh will NEVER be SCJ. The investigation will continue until dems DESTORY republicans in the midterms'
3. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST
Diabeetus be racist:
Naw, j/k...it's racism.
A more likely explanation is that guys who are attracted to weightlifting tend to have more right-wing views, on average, than guys who avoid weightlifting. If weightlifting makes you right-wing, then the western world should have started turning more right-wing in the early 1980s (when lifting weights became fashionable). Then we have the problem that many women are more right-wing than many males. I doubt very much than exercise-stimulated androgens explain the ideological gulf between say, Brittany Pettibone and Ben Affleck.
Left field idea: maybe weight lifting makes you more libertarian? That would help explain the rise of neoliberalism in the 80s and 90s. Nerdy economists lifting weights and chanting “protectionism is for pussies!”
Kavanaugh should take a lesson from his betters :
In my experience, the somatotype determines best what fundamental exercise type should predominate: mesomorphs should weight train, ectomorphs should run, and endomorphs should just put down the Heinemann’s butter pecan coffee cake (can’t fault them for that) and do both. Steve looks like an oxygen-burning ectomorph with a high VO2 max. Running as a mesomorph was frustrating optimum health and well-being for me, but a serious weight-training routine was perfect. Know your type.
It would be quite feasible to offer college students at a research university free personal training, with randomly assigned weight training vs. aerobic training. See how they answer a political questionnaire at the beginning and the end.
This experiment would be expensive to pay for the personal trainers, but otherwise seems really feasible.
Germans waiting for the BBC . Well they've got it now . Happy bitches ?
It’s been 4 decades and for all that time I would have told you that 1-hit artist was a black woman, if you’d asked. BTW, Donut, Disco is DEAD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0t8uwTLHU4
Speaking of big blacks, Son Seals has this to say…..(worth listening to)
No fool it’s not .
What colour is this guy , if it’s possible listen don’t look ?
2. Subsequently you will be in a position to observe that 85% of the population will go to any length to avoid taking responsibility for their fitness and would rather be slobs and complain.
3. These same folks, without exception, will consider themselves experts on diet, exercise and fitness, and will take any opportunity to lecture you, fit person, on what you are wrong about. The fitter you are, the more people will find reasons to insist that you are really the unhealthy one.
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I imagine the above experience may have a carryover effect as to how you observe other issues in society.
Also if you are younger and accidentally lift yourself into the top 5-10% of men in your area, you are about to get a sexy lesson in the more Darwinian aspects of sexual behaviour of the human female. If the seduction guys are any indication this is a one way ave to badthink in other areas.
And the alt-right gym bro circlejerk rolls right along. How exactly does lifting for a few months manage to “easily” make your life “much much” better, outside of your narcissistic fantasies?
Takes more than just a few months, more like 8-9, if you do it consistently. If you start now, you can have all that by next summer.
This is not to say it will get you laid or invited to parties. You still have to work on your game. But women are way more forgiving of slip-ups when you’re fit.
And yes, you'd have to do it for a few (6) months to discover the benefits. Most people are too impatient, and quit after a few weeks. Discipline, diligence, fitness results from effort. Nothing worth learning comes easily.
Brittney Pettibone is a groupie and an attention seeker. There’s nothing right wing per se about her.
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Welcome back! I see during your absence you have been working on the suggestions I’ve been giving you on the secrets to successful lampooning. I especially noted your use of my rule; keep down the number of misspellings or malapropisms per post. “DESTORY” was a good one, and the second one “midterms’ “ was a bit of gilding the lily, but it was subtle so I’ll let it slide this time.
To take you to the next step of your training I’m going to give you numerical grades from now on. They’ll consist of the IQ of the person you are simulating. Your target will be to keep the simulated IQ in the range of 90 to 95. You scored a 93 on this post. Thank you for all your hard work.
Nassim Nicholas Taleb
At gym:
Asked weightlifters in basement if they voted Trump. 9 voted Trump, 1 Johnson.
Upstairs, bourgeois floor (machines), 10/10 Hillary.
– Hillary/Trump & Weightlifting results are more significant (according to same norms) than 99% of published “science”
– https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/814560759577513984?lang=en
It will change your brain, and the results won't be pretty.
I get lots of exercise to keep doctor visits down to the bare minimum. Staying in shape does this. Not fool proof of course, but the more flab, the more you keep the Docs in business. Plenty of lib guys stay in shape, but as a vast generalization, conservative and libertarian men are into taking personal responsibility for their health.
For women to stay in shape all they need is dance classes or aerobics with Ricard Simmons DVDs, Pilates and watch your diet and eat more salads. They have it easy.
This was kind of interesting:
And you thought gay Nazi bodybuilder was just a meme!
It gives you more self-confidence and makes you more attractive to the opposite sex, and other men will automatically grant you a greater degree of respect than they did before. This will do wonders for your self-image and will also change how you see other people. It’s a great antidote to misogyny and will change your attitude so that you’re more likely to take responsibility for your failings rather than blaming them on others, hence the right-wing angle. Men who don’t work out become more deferential to you.
Takes more than just a few months, more like 8-9, if you do it consistently. If you start now, you can have all that by next summer.
This is not to say it will get you laid or invited to parties. You still have to work on your game. But women are way more forgiving of slip-ups when you’re fit.
The misogyny bit is a canard. Increased experience (even “success”) with women does not improve one’s opinion of them. As Heartiste/Roissy noted long ago: the only thing more dispiriting than failure is success. Personally, I think the only way to avoid “misogyny” absent willful ignorance (very common) is to live your life on one side of the fence only. Even then, I note that ‘alphas’ are often quite “misogynistic.” Much more so than pajama boys and only slightly less than the ‘losers’ you’re likely imagining.
There seems a tradition of Americans feeling that they must have a clear opinion on any topic under the sun regardless of whether they know or care in any way about the topic.
Maybe something to do with American schooling where everyone is expected and encouraged to have a view and all views are given equal weight no matter how dumb/ignorant/irrelevant
Non Americans fnd this exasperating
That's because they don't have trumpets.
At a loss how Robbins as cast as a pitcher in "Bull Durham". Most MLB pitchers have thick muscular lower bodies, legs like tree trunks,whether that's Greg Maddux or Roger Clemens.And the physical requirements have become more pronounced as pitchers' average velocity has gone up.
Not sure how Robbins got cast as a pitcher, but for what it’s worth Sarandon is a notorious and admitted size queen and Robbins widely acknowledged as one of the horses of Hollywood.
It’s worth reviewing Richard Ben Cramer’s DiMaggio autobiography (pp.65) for comments on Lefty Gomez…I’d post a quote but Amazon and Google’s tech is pretty good at keeping the text uncopyable.
It's worth reviewing Richard Ben Cramer's DiMaggio autobiography (pp.65) for comments on Lefty Gomez...I'd post a quote but Amazon and Google's tech is pretty good at keeping the text uncopyable.
I meant his biography, not “autobiography”.
Unladen wins the conversation!
(European, I expect?)
In my experience, even thinking about fitness makes you right wing. (Here I literally stopped and did five push-ups and accidentally spilled my beer on the rug… this really happened…) The perfect is the enemy of the good.
Blogging will give you as much exercise as golfing in a golf cart. Blogging leads to enhanced blood flow and circulation, more oxygen transport to your fingers and brain so you are doing great there. Surely what the Doc has ordered for a longer life. Let’s not forget how calmly you blog despite the cruel material (battle of the sexes etc.) you must negotiate. Seemingly sending you into a Zen-Satori like state, another plus according to the Medicos.
At gym:
Asked weightlifters in basement if they voted Trump. 9 voted Trump, 1 Johnson.
Upstairs, bourgeois floor (machines), 10/10 Hillary.
- Hillary/Trump & Weightlifting results are more significant (according to same norms) than 99% of published "science"
- https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/814560759577513984?lang=en
Legit as always from NNT. Thanks!
That’s so imprecise.
Fitness turns you into Hitler or a Nazi. To quote from the research article below
http://adolfbody.sytes.net/
https://i.imgur.com/wiiwP0u.gif
Her idea of being heard was to make the charges anonymously and get the FBI to remember for her. If she doesn't remember something, there isn't much to investigate. Democrats doubled down on the FBI. I expect them to choke on it.
I am not so confident. You have two wild cards. Mark Judge and Lawyer Avenatti, who is a very fame hungry shark and is brainstorming at this very moment. Flaky Mark Judge is highly vulnerable. I can only hope that his lawyer is very good and in control.
Jeff Flake has given Avenatti a wide opening for this coming week.
A Tennessee assistant principal was placed on administrative leave Wednesday after he recorded a video addressing a ban on athletic shorts, in which he suggested male students “blame the girls” for the ban.
“If you really want someone to blame, blame the girls, because they pretty much ruin everything,” Jared Hensley, who also serves as Soddy-Daisy High School’s athletic director, said in the video.
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/high-school-assistant-principal-bans-athletic-shorts-tells-boys-blame-the-girls/GsUnEqs5BQkjbSE922JKcJ/
It would be useful to produce videos where most of what is being said is bleeped out, then let the proles think what they may.
At gym:
Asked weightlifters in basement if they voted Trump. 9 voted Trump, 1 Johnson.
Upstairs, bourgeois floor (machines), 10/10 Hillary.
- Hillary/Trump & Weightlifting results are more significant (according to same norms) than 99% of published "science"
- https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/814560759577513984?lang=en
NEVER STOP LIFTING!
It will change your brain, and the results won’t be pretty.
Perhaps. But just as one needs xanax to take the edge off a cocaine high–or so I’m told–we need Fish to put TD in his place and keep him there.
To quote Carly Simon–no one does it better.
Search terms: “fish ohs tinys isteve”
In fairness Trudeau isn't laughing at dead Asians, he's doing that awkwardness tic that amoral thoughtless people think is not eminently slapworthy. He's doing that thing that Paul Newman's character's son did at the beginning of Road To Perdition.
Right, but at the same time there is a certain gallows-humor satisfaction at reading crime reports and realizing that with the constant flood of third-worlders into our countries the odds of them offing one another increase dramatically.
In theory the Western world did get more right wing in the early eighties with Reagan, Thatcher and Kohl.
Sarah Jeong writing about white people, for instance.
‘Fleet Street’ in the sense that Britain’s national daily and Sunday newspapers were actually written, composed and printed at Fleet Street itself, or nearby adjacent streets, has not existed in the past 30 years.
You can thank Rupert Murdoch for that.
It’s almost as if sitting around on your phat azz all day eating junk food ain’t good for ya.
Naw, j/k…it’s racism.
/r/ing Disappointed Hitler asking “Do you even lift?”
“It’s the same as with children. You finally have something worth conserving.”
I think Zoe Williams has one child of her own, one stepchild, and one aborted former child.
I think there’s a divide here between runners/cyclists and gym bunnies. Runners and cyclists tend middle class left/liberal round here, gym types not so much.
If left-wingers are in better shape than right-wingers it's because right-wingers are stupid and lazy.
See how easy that is to spin?
I've never noticed that right-wingers are more fit than left-wingers. If anything I'd guess the opposite. The only reason for most of that difference, I think, is that childless, unmarried young leftists have more time to spend in the gym and spend more time chasing after their next relationship.
It can sometimes be tough finding the time to stay in shape when you're childless, and when the kids (especially when they're very young) it's sometimes damn near impossible - and that's before even considering that a man's testosterone goes down when he has kids.
Not relevant.
The question is whether weightlifters are more right-wing than those who don’t lift.
In terms of Darwinian fitness, surely in the UK Muslims and Orthodox Jews have the greatest – because they are reproducing at a much faster rate than everyone else. They’ve found an environmental niche called the UK benefits system.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/16/majority-of-british-jews-will-be-ultra-orthodox-by-end-of-century-study-finds
It’ll be interesting to see what long-term difference the Cameron/Osborne welfare reforms which limit future benefits to only two children makes (existing large families keep their benefits, but new ones only get benefits for two kids). A Corbyn government is likely to reverse the changes, of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peEA-fqmwDU
Thomas is pretty good.
At gym:
Asked weightlifters in basement if they voted Trump. 9 voted Trump, 1 Johnson.
Upstairs, bourgeois floor (machines), 10/10 Hillary.
- Hillary/Trump & Weightlifting results are more significant (according to same norms) than 99% of published "science"
- https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/814560759577513984?lang=en
In my observation, most of the people using free weights and barbells are males in their 20s and 30s. Most of the people using the machines are female, old people, and newbs.
The only difference between National Socialists and other socialists is the former believed in hitting the gym and the latter don’t.
Pretty much anything that can be placed on a hierarchy of value will be considered right wing.
That’s what leftism is: A fat chick trying to drag everyone down to her size.
Also, this props up my Obesity Causes Leftism In Society theory.
Let’s parse this piece of [I use the term loosely!] “journalism, shall we: “someone had posted a picture of themselves…”
Breaking it down into relevant syllables, we have “Someone [singular] had posted a picture of themselves [plural relative pronoun].
So, the observer knows about the ‘picture’ – an image of the writer’s subject. The image contained one individual. This keen observer was presumably NOT able to determine the sex [gender] of said individual, so resorted to a grammatically incorrect, but attempted gender neutral plural pronoun, “themselves.” Actually, I’m surprised that the PC pronoun ‘themself” hasn’t been coined already. Well, I guess I just did.
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There is some body of research that strong men (above average lean body mass) are “right wing” in the sense that they favor redistribution of wealth to people like themselves and are against redistribution of wealth against people like themselves. Like male lions, they tend to hog the resources.
But a poor strong man is likely to be a militant communist, while a rich strong man would be conventionally right wing.
However, I don’t think this applies to strong females, nor to the “fitness community” which are mostly hamsters on treadmills. I suspect that weaker males incline toward conciliatory politics, presumably because they would get their asses kicked in a fair fight, and are good candidates for SWPL virtue signalling politics. Look at Weiner, skinny but couldn’t deadlift a broom handle.
There is some evidence that attractive people are more right wing, and I imagine if you are attractive you have more incentive to stay fit, so maybe there is some general correlation, but its mostly males and strength training, not “fitness”.
Let’s face it, there are more ugly, fat, lazy, stupid people than the opposite, so democracy means pandering to ugly, fat, lazy, stupid people, and leftism is democracy squared.
His taste in music interesting too.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/3BxYQqcqVNCv0ce8QaROce2THkE=/0x0:5136x3424/1200x800/filters:focal(2527x737:3347x1557)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/57461207/813884326.0.jpgI think exercise makes you more materialistic and reward driven. Trump's political career was a very long shot and a bad business move. He was dissatisfied and not looking at it from a materialistic perspective; his excess weight was perhaps what freed him from a straight materialistic analysis.Sam Francis was "alarmingly well fed". Henry Harpending (and to an extent Gregory Cochran in the last photo I have seen) was conservative in an HBD sense and an academic outlier, but had really let himself go. I think to be unfit makes you less worried about being on the winning side.
Yes, it’s weird that someone would think that looking better, feeling better, and having more self-confidence from those and, also, from a sense of accomplishment would make one’s life better. Weird!
Glad one of them will admit it at least. Writers know how to write, and not much else.
(Present company exceped, of course…)
A lot of the left/right political divide is about those who feel the need to be protected versus those that feel like they don’t. An in-shape person feels more physically confident than someone who is not. Also, fitness is truly about putting in the work – there is no affirmative action in getting in shape, it’s all about effort and people who take the time to do so don’t have a lot of patience for people who do not or who don’t really try.
All that said, I got to a Crossfit/Olympic weightlifting place, and maybe it’s because the average member is in their late 20s or early 30s, but politically I would say it still skews more to the left. On the other hand, when I was there yesterday the subject of Kavanaugh came up amongst a group of guys who I know have different political views and it was unanimous that relying on allegations that happened in high school was total BS.
The aerobic work keeps it appealing to women, who don't want to lift for their whole workout. Keeping women interested is important economically for the gyms, and having women around will naturally skew political views a little left, for two reasons. First, women tend a little left. Second, right-leaning men tend not to reveal how far right they are, in the presence of women.
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Vaguely relating to fitness, I am reading in Heather Mac Donald’s recent book that racial preferences for medical school are justified because black Americans want doctors that “look like them.” In fact, there is quite a bit of (flakey looking) research that says that back males, especially, do better under the care of black doctors.
I think that the “better care” may be nothing more than that the patients take the chip off their shoulder in the presence of a black doctor. And I think that the black “doctors” are probably predominantly GPs that pass their patients on to white, Jewish, and Indian specialists.
But still, there is this “looks like me” thing in the zeitgeist. I wonder if it works the other way around? I wouldn’t mind being able to request doctors who look like me, white or Jewish males. I wonder if that would be allowed in medical plans? I wonder if the reaction to a black requesting a black and a white requesting a white would be treated differently? It would be an interesting piece of empirical research.
They were both chosen at random, but we've had great relationships with them. I don't think the race matters; it's all about the worldview.
https://i.imgur.com/wiiwP0u.gif
Hitler was quite good at gymnastics as a schoolboy, and as an adult he was attracted to young lady acrobats. He was keen on boxing as a way or teaching youth how to bear suffering and fight on.
Lets reverse it and look at whether being unfit makes you different. Unfit people probably don’t bother to vote. Getting obese makes you depressed (via inflammation from all the extra immune system cells that are the majority of bodyfat) and less enterprising. Exercise does the opposite./cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/57461207/813884326.0.jpg)
I think exercise makes you more materialistic and reward driven. Trump’s political career was a very long shot and a bad business move. He was dissatisfied and not looking at it from a materialistic perspective; his excess weight was perhaps what freed him from a straight materialistic analysis.
Sam Francis was “alarmingly well fed”. Henry Harpending (and to an extent Gregory Cochran in the last photo I have seen) was conservative in an HBD sense and an academic outlier, but had really let himself go. I think to be unfit makes you less worried about being on the winning side.
“A lot of the left/right political divide is about those who feel the need to be protected versus those that feel like they don’t. An in-shape person feels more physically confident than someone who is not.”
While there are cause-and-effect factors at play, as a general rule people who carry do not feel the need to be protected by others and have physical confidence galore. They definitely skew right-wing.
2. Subsequently you will be in a position to observe that 85% of the population will go to any length to avoid taking responsibility for their fitness and would rather be slobs and complain.
3. These same folks, without exception, will consider themselves experts on diet, exercise and fitness, and will take any opportunity to lecture you, fit person, on what you are wrong about. The fitter you are, the more people will find reasons to insist that you are really the unhealthy one.
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I imagine the above experience may have a carryover effect as to how you observe other issues in society.
Also if you are younger and accidentally lift yourself into the top 5-10% of men in your area, you are about to get a sexy lesson in the more Darwinian aspects of sexual behaviour of the human female. If the seduction guys are any indication this is a one way ave to badthink in other areas.
You won’t pant after trying to catch train for example. You can also lift heavy furniture during housekeeping. Women appreciate such things.
2. Subsequently you will be in a position to observe that 85% of the population will go to any length to avoid taking responsibility for their fitness and would rather be slobs and complain.
3. These same folks, without exception, will consider themselves experts on diet, exercise and fitness, and will take any opportunity to lecture you, fit person, on what you are wrong about. The fitter you are, the more people will find reasons to insist that you are really the unhealthy one.
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I imagine the above experience may have a carryover effect as to how you observe other issues in society.
Also if you are younger and accidentally lift yourself into the top 5-10% of men in your area, you are about to get a sexy lesson in the more Darwinian aspects of sexual behaviour of the human female. If the seduction guys are any indication this is a one way ave to badthink in other areas.
Sorry, wrong address. My post was in answer to .L Woods’ attack on being fit.
Deprivation and highly taxing endurance exercises are divinely inspired.
After a long bicycle ride or hike or walk or weight lifting or pull ups workout, God wants us to drink beer to replenish are souls and spirits from the exertion.
Obese people pay the idiot tax by way of ungodly fat.
God don’t trust drinkwaters, and I got my suspicions about them too!
Trumpy is a drinkwater. That’s not so nice.
At gym:
Asked weightlifters in basement if they voted Trump. 9 voted Trump, 1 Johnson.
Upstairs, bourgeois floor (machines), 10/10 Hillary.
- Hillary/Trump & Weightlifting results are more significant (according to same norms) than 99% of published "science"
- https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/814560759577513984?lang=en
I wonder if the cops/firemen in the weight room told him the same thing some told me: How I voted or how I was supposed to vote?
Zoe doesn’t have to bother lifting.
It makes sense. It’s one of those needed health practices. If you don’t eat enough greens you will find your bowels blocked. If you don’t exercise enough your head will likewise fill with shit.
Think clearly, do your push-ups.
Takes more than just a few months, more like 8-9, if you do it consistently. If you start now, you can have all that by next summer.
This is not to say it will get you laid or invited to parties. You still have to work on your game. But women are way more forgiving of slip-ups when you’re fit.
My fitness levels have fluctuated fairly dramatically over the last decade, and I’ve noticed surprisingly little difference in any of those arenas either way. I strongly contend (based on my own experience at least) that the PUA-sphere et al grossly (and perhaps deliberately) downplays the importance of social status vis a vis muscles, particularly where non-short term stuff is concerned. Social status essentially requires being a cuck and/or a time machine to one degree or another, so I can understand the aversion to prioritizing it even if I don’t agree with it in an empirical sense. I do admittedly lack the body type to be big, so perhaps that’s the crux of it.
The misogyny bit is a canard. Increased experience (even “success”) with women does not improve one’s opinion of them. As Heartiste/Roissy noted long ago: the only thing more dispiriting than failure is success. Personally, I think the only way to avoid “misogyny” absent willful ignorance (very common) is to live your life on one side of the fence only. Even then, I note that ‘alphas’ are often quite “misogynistic.” Much more so than pajama boys and only slightly less than the ‘losers’ you’re likely imagining.
I read Heartiste too sometimes, he's good for keeping you from getting too polyannish about the fairer sex, but you can't swallow what he says uncritically.
Listen: speaking as a former misogynist (who still feels twinges of it sometimes), and one who can spot it in others (like yourself), let me point something out. I'm not going to moralize about misogyny like feminists do, saying it's harmful to women, because neither of us really cares about that. It's safe to say there are different kinds of misogyny, the kind that alphas have and the kinds that others have. I'm going to talk about the latter. I speak from personal experience, you can tell me whether yours differs.
The first thing to consider about misogyny is that the flipside of it is self-loathing. I've never met an intellectual misogynist who was happy with himself socially. Let's face it: a strong, savvy man can handle Woman and all her works. The inability to do so is bad for a man's self-esteem.
More to the point, I've never met an intellectual misogynist type who was good with other men. The intellectual misogynist doesn't just resent women, he's uncomfortable around men, especially those who are good with women. Being around those men reinforces his low self-estimate. Whether you're consciously aware of it or not, you resent other men as well. And that's something that never gets brought up, either by the manosphere or the feminists. Roissy's smart and he's usually right (see, I'm mostly on his side). But does he strike you as the type who's confident around other men?
This is why I say, Drop the Misogyny. Not because I'm one of these feminists asking you to do something to benefit women, but because it's bad for you. It reinforces the misery. It reinforces the disconnect you have from other men, most of whom like women, flaws and all. When you're done reading blogs like Heartiste or The Rational Male, on the one hand you're happy to have your Schopenhauerian worldview confirmed, but otoh it's a bitter worldview that makes you unhappy to have it. It's not in your interest to have that worldview.
That's my long-winded way of explaining how lifting weights will help do away with your misogyny. Not because it's going to make you fit, which will make you more attractive to the opposite sex, but because it will make you more confident around other men.
All that said, I got to a Crossfit/Olympic weightlifting place, and maybe it's because the average member is in their late 20s or early 30s, but politically I would say it still skews more to the left. On the other hand, when I was there yesterday the subject of Kavanaugh came up amongst a group of guys who I know have different political views and it was unanimous that relying on allegations that happened in high school was total BS.
Genes are your “affirmative action.” In any case this could help explain why the right always loses: a bunch of meatheads with ‘rugged individualist’ fantasies that don’t organize.
Takes more than just a few months, more like 8-9, if you do it consistently. If you start now, you can have all that by next summer.
This is not to say it will get you laid or invited to parties. You still have to work on your game. But women are way more forgiving of slip-ups when you’re fit.
Lifting is a necessary but insufficient condition for achieving those results.
Great point.
I had an awesome workout earlier today, and still find myself thinking thoughts somewhat to the right of General Francisco Franco. Clearly there is method to the Guardian’s madness. I’ll go do a few extra pullups, and see how far to the right that takes me.
When I was in peak lifting (e.g., 4th set biceps curls = 80 lbs dumb bells x 6 reps), I was groped in public by strange women twice. I was too inexperienced at the time to turn that magnetism into sex, but the magnetism was entirely real.
Yeah but what about Jane Fonda
At a loss how Robbins as cast as a pitcher in "Bull Durham". Most MLB pitchers have thick muscular lower bodies, legs like tree trunks,whether that's Greg Maddux or Roger Clemens.And the physical requirements have become more pronounced as pitchers' average velocity has gone up.
I think of Susan Sarandon as the american Vanessa Redgrave – I disagree with her politics (though Sarandon is at least more consistent than a lot of Hollywood lefties), but I don’t hold it against her because she’s nice to look at.
OMG! Kavanaugh must be guilty, he’s Haven Monahan on steroids…
All that said, I got to a Crossfit/Olympic weightlifting place, and maybe it's because the average member is in their late 20s or early 30s, but politically I would say it still skews more to the left. On the other hand, when I was there yesterday the subject of Kavanaugh came up amongst a group of guys who I know have different political views and it was unanimous that relying on allegations that happened in high school was total BS.
CrossFit is fairly aerobic. Obviously you build some muscle mass, but it can’t be too much or you won’t be able to do the runs, rowing, jump rope, star jumps, and long sets of other cardiovascular-intense work.
The aerobic work keeps it appealing to women, who don’t want to lift for their whole workout. Keeping women interested is important economically for the gyms, and having women around will naturally skew political views a little left, for two reasons. First, women tend a little left. Second, right-leaning men tend not to reveal how far right they are, in the presence of women.
You are also less afraid of other people…Leftists are in a perpetual state of fear…
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/3BxYQqcqVNCv0ce8QaROce2THkE=/0x0:5136x3424/1200x800/filters:focal(2527x737:3347x1557)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/57461207/813884326.0.jpgI think exercise makes you more materialistic and reward driven. Trump's political career was a very long shot and a bad business move. He was dissatisfied and not looking at it from a materialistic perspective; his excess weight was perhaps what freed him from a straight materialistic analysis.Sam Francis was "alarmingly well fed". Henry Harpending (and to an extent Gregory Cochran in the last photo I have seen) was conservative in an HBD sense and an academic outlier, but had really let himself go. I think to be unfit makes you less worried about being on the winning side.
The last time I saw Greg Cochran on video, his head looked huge, and so did his gut. But in his shoulders and arms it looked like there was a bit of muscle tone. I guessed he either used to workout, or still does very casually.
Gimmicky? Well, she cites a picture of a “complicated yoga posture on a log” caused her to be “angry as a bull.”
I’d say she’s overwrought. As is often said when someone complains about another, “Sounds like a personal problem.”
Just more Sailer’s First Law of Female Journalism.
Because in James Hohmann’s experience, he never worked out in the summer to get in shape for the high school football team, so why should anyone else??
That's why the left is populated with soyboys, bugmen, blue-haired tattooed fatties, and other specimens of indeterminate sex.
Most gym bros by contrast are fascists.
But the question is, chicken and egg-like, did working out turn the gym bros right-wing, or are right-wing bros naturally attracted to the gym…
If you want to lose weight, you can do Atkins, keto, South Beach, paleo, Dr. Bernstein, etc., which are all basically low carb diets.
If you want to get stronger, you can do Starting Strength, Strong Lifts, Wendler, etc. which are all basically barbell programs.
And apparently, Weight Watchers (calorie counting as low carb), is changing its name to WW, much like Dunkin’ Donuts is becoming DD, for marketing to a wider audience. (Sorry about the pun.)
I like the idea of Double Ds…
The misogyny bit is a canard. Increased experience (even “success”) with women does not improve one’s opinion of them. As Heartiste/Roissy noted long ago: the only thing more dispiriting than failure is success. Personally, I think the only way to avoid “misogyny” absent willful ignorance (very common) is to live your life on one side of the fence only. Even then, I note that ‘alphas’ are often quite “misogynistic.” Much more so than pajama boys and only slightly less than the ‘losers’ you’re likely imagining.
Misogyny (hatred of women) betrays a lack of self awareness. One can, and should, be aware of the flaws and foibles of women. That’s not only not misogyny, it does nothing to preclude the sort of fondness for women that most naturals employ to do well by them and with them.
It called experience. Apparently you wouldn’t know–you’d have to do it to find out.
And yes, you’d have to do it for a few (6) months to discover the benefits. Most people are too impatient, and quit after a few weeks. Discipline, diligence, fitness results from effort. Nothing worth learning comes easily.
Maybe something to do with American schooling where everyone is expected and encouraged to have a view and all views are given equal weight no matter how dumb/ignorant/irrelevant
Non Americans fnd this exasperating
Well said. It’s the tyranny of public opinion that Tocqueville wrote about: everyone has to have an opinion and it better be the correct one if you want to be in good standing with the Ladies’ Booster Apple Pie Society. Except now it also means watching all the blatant propoganda shows (cf. “This is Us”), views less than laudatory betraying a suspicious note of anti-democratic sentiment. It’s nearly impossible to engage thoughtfully with public life anymore as all social institutions are subsumed within “respectable opinion”.
She never said which house and never pointed out which bed.
Has she even described the bed's style or pattern on the blanket or size of pillows etc?
Did she describe the etchings on the ceiling…
Great point. Just the consideration that there might be goods as ends in themselves like fitness or justice leads to right-wing conclusions if carried to their end. And even if you fail to act on this insight you can’t return to the naivety of the Narrative, whose comfortable watchword “Tolerance” precluded the need to strive at all, with the resultant anxiety that you may fall short of the mark in trying.
I wasn’t born yet, but my sense is that brand of yuppie right-wing status-symbol consumerism may have merited a lot of the criticism and satire it inspired.
And I was there for those, so don’t tell me they were just so much U.S. imperialism.
Maybe something to do with American schooling where everyone is expected and encouraged to have a view and all views are given equal weight no matter how dumb/ignorant/irrelevant
Non Americans fnd this exasperating
Even some Americans finds it exasperating.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/3BxYQqcqVNCv0ce8QaROce2THkE=/0x0:5136x3424/1200x800/filters:focal(2527x737:3347x1557)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/57461207/813884326.0.jpgI think exercise makes you more materialistic and reward driven. Trump's political career was a very long shot and a bad business move. He was dissatisfied and not looking at it from a materialistic perspective; his excess weight was perhaps what freed him from a straight materialistic analysis.Sam Francis was "alarmingly well fed". Henry Harpending (and to an extent Gregory Cochran in the last photo I have seen) was conservative in an HBD sense and an academic outlier, but had really let himself go. I think to be unfit makes you less worried about being on the winning side.
Your theory would explain the role of aestheticism in religious practice to cultivate detachment from the material world.
Vaguely relating to fitness, I am reading in Heather Mac Donald's recent book that racial preferences for medical school are justified because black Americans want doctors that "look like them." In fact, there is quite a bit of (flakey looking) research that says that back males, especially, do better under the care of black doctors.
I think that the "better care" may be nothing more than that the patients take the chip off their shoulder in the presence of a black doctor. And I think that the black "doctors" are probably predominantly GPs that pass their patients on to white, Jewish, and Indian specialists.
But still, there is this "looks like me" thing in the zeitgeist. I wonder if it works the other way around? I wouldn't mind being able to request doctors who look like me, white or Jewish males. I wonder if that would be allowed in medical plans? I wonder if the reaction to a black requesting a black and a white requesting a white would be treated differently? It would be an interesting piece of empirical research.
We’ve gone to two different doctors for primary care for the last 15 years or so. the first was a Chinese American male who was a right-wing Christian. The second is a Filipino American female who is a right wing Christian.
They were both chosen at random, but we’ve had great relationships with them. I don’t think the race matters; it’s all about the worldview.
You mean they felt your biceps? I’ve done that to guys as a friendly opener and they always responded with grins. It doesn’t mean she wants you, just that she admires your dedication to working out.
They were all sweaty, having just disgorged from the hot yoga studio or whatnot.
Absolutely.
Treadmills, ellipticals, and other machine based equipment are all fake exercises. It is the fitness industry version of virtue signaling. It makes you feel like your doing something important when all you’re really doing is wasting time accomplishing nothing. So people that do fake exercises and listen to fake news tend to be liberal. So no surprise there.
The misogyny bit is a canard. Increased experience (even “success”) with women does not improve one’s opinion of them. As Heartiste/Roissy noted long ago: the only thing more dispiriting than failure is success. Personally, I think the only way to avoid “misogyny” absent willful ignorance (very common) is to live your life on one side of the fence only. Even then, I note that ‘alphas’ are often quite “misogynistic.” Much more so than pajama boys and only slightly less than the ‘losers’ you’re likely imagining.
What?
No.
I read Heartiste too sometimes, he’s good for keeping you from getting too polyannish about the fairer sex, but you can’t swallow what he says uncritically.
Listen: speaking as a former misogynist (who still feels twinges of it sometimes), and one who can spot it in others (like yourself), let me point something out. I’m not going to moralize about misogyny like feminists do, saying it’s harmful to women, because neither of us really cares about that. It’s safe to say there are different kinds of misogyny, the kind that alphas have and the kinds that others have. I’m going to talk about the latter. I speak from personal experience, you can tell me whether yours differs.
The first thing to consider about misogyny is that the flipside of it is self-loathing. I’ve never met an intellectual misogynist who was happy with himself socially. Let’s face it: a strong, savvy man can handle Woman and all her works. The inability to do so is bad for a man’s self-esteem.
More to the point, I’ve never met an intellectual misogynist type who was good with other men. The intellectual misogynist doesn’t just resent women, he’s uncomfortable around men, especially those who are good with women. Being around those men reinforces his low self-estimate. Whether you’re consciously aware of it or not, you resent other men as well. And that’s something that never gets brought up, either by the manosphere or the feminists. Roissy’s smart and he’s usually right (see, I’m mostly on his side). But does he strike you as the type who’s confident around other men?
This is why I say, Drop the Misogyny. Not because I’m one of these feminists asking you to do something to benefit women, but because it’s bad for you. It reinforces the misery. It reinforces the disconnect you have from other men, most of whom like women, flaws and all. When you’re done reading blogs like Heartiste or The Rational Male, on the one hand you’re happy to have your Schopenhauerian worldview confirmed, but otoh it’s a bitter worldview that makes you unhappy to have it. It’s not in your interest to have that worldview.
That’s my long-winded way of explaining how lifting weights will help do away with your misogyny. Not because it’s going to make you fit, which will make you more attractive to the opposite sex, but because it will make you more confident around other men.
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/747820822862127105
(picture of Paul Krugman in bike shorts and his Trumpy Cat t-shirt)
Fortunately, the internet does not forget:
Here's a secret TD - nobody missed you.
And yet you responded?
And Starship Troopers was supposed to be a send-up of fascist tendencies, didn’t make the movie any easier to watch.
So only weight lifting counts?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CavIJ3DW4AA4Z-f.jpg
Next you will be posting some Michael Moore.
I read Heartiste too sometimes, he's good for keeping you from getting too polyannish about the fairer sex, but you can't swallow what he says uncritically.
Listen: speaking as a former misogynist (who still feels twinges of it sometimes), and one who can spot it in others (like yourself), let me point something out. I'm not going to moralize about misogyny like feminists do, saying it's harmful to women, because neither of us really cares about that. It's safe to say there are different kinds of misogyny, the kind that alphas have and the kinds that others have. I'm going to talk about the latter. I speak from personal experience, you can tell me whether yours differs.
The first thing to consider about misogyny is that the flipside of it is self-loathing. I've never met an intellectual misogynist who was happy with himself socially. Let's face it: a strong, savvy man can handle Woman and all her works. The inability to do so is bad for a man's self-esteem.
More to the point, I've never met an intellectual misogynist type who was good with other men. The intellectual misogynist doesn't just resent women, he's uncomfortable around men, especially those who are good with women. Being around those men reinforces his low self-estimate. Whether you're consciously aware of it or not, you resent other men as well. And that's something that never gets brought up, either by the manosphere or the feminists. Roissy's smart and he's usually right (see, I'm mostly on his side). But does he strike you as the type who's confident around other men?
This is why I say, Drop the Misogyny. Not because I'm one of these feminists asking you to do something to benefit women, but because it's bad for you. It reinforces the misery. It reinforces the disconnect you have from other men, most of whom like women, flaws and all. When you're done reading blogs like Heartiste or The Rational Male, on the one hand you're happy to have your Schopenhauerian worldview confirmed, but otoh it's a bitter worldview that makes you unhappy to have it. It's not in your interest to have that worldview.
That's my long-winded way of explaining how lifting weights will help do away with your misogyny. Not because it's going to make you fit, which will make you more attractive to the opposite sex, but because it will make you more confident around other men.
Good if imprecise advice. Roissy is no misogynist and one can adopt the non-evil parts of his worldview without becoming one oneself. In fact it works better if you don’t.
I read Heartiste too sometimes, he's good for keeping you from getting too polyannish about the fairer sex, but you can't swallow what he says uncritically.
Listen: speaking as a former misogynist (who still feels twinges of it sometimes), and one who can spot it in others (like yourself), let me point something out. I'm not going to moralize about misogyny like feminists do, saying it's harmful to women, because neither of us really cares about that. It's safe to say there are different kinds of misogyny, the kind that alphas have and the kinds that others have. I'm going to talk about the latter. I speak from personal experience, you can tell me whether yours differs.
The first thing to consider about misogyny is that the flipside of it is self-loathing. I've never met an intellectual misogynist who was happy with himself socially. Let's face it: a strong, savvy man can handle Woman and all her works. The inability to do so is bad for a man's self-esteem.
More to the point, I've never met an intellectual misogynist type who was good with other men. The intellectual misogynist doesn't just resent women, he's uncomfortable around men, especially those who are good with women. Being around those men reinforces his low self-estimate. Whether you're consciously aware of it or not, you resent other men as well. And that's something that never gets brought up, either by the manosphere or the feminists. Roissy's smart and he's usually right (see, I'm mostly on his side). But does he strike you as the type who's confident around other men?
This is why I say, Drop the Misogyny. Not because I'm one of these feminists asking you to do something to benefit women, but because it's bad for you. It reinforces the misery. It reinforces the disconnect you have from other men, most of whom like women, flaws and all. When you're done reading blogs like Heartiste or The Rational Male, on the one hand you're happy to have your Schopenhauerian worldview confirmed, but otoh it's a bitter worldview that makes you unhappy to have it. It's not in your interest to have that worldview.
That's my long-winded way of explaining how lifting weights will help do away with your misogyny. Not because it's going to make you fit, which will make you more attractive to the opposite sex, but because it will make you more confident around other men.
I only meant that survival in polite society necessitates the recitation of PC lies and various other B.S. And, separately, that most of the early status games that set the tone for the rest of one’s life (high school, undergrad) have already been lost by most of those drawn to the manosphere; hence, you’d need a time machine to win them.
True enough.
Wishful thinking in the #metoo/no fault divorce era. Pretty sure it’s also Heartiste (with whom I do not agree uncritically) who touts the (stupid) idea that one can ‘alpha’ one’s way through these hazards.
True enough. I’m probably worse with other men than with women at this point, actually.
I’m conscious of it.
Probably true.
Almost certainly true.
And that’s where I leave the reservation. To actually like women as a whole (not merely be sexually attracted to them or paternalistic towards them) in some essential sense requires lying to oneself as to their nature. It’s taking cues from your little head over your big one. I can’t, on a fundamental level, truly internalize a lie as the price of relating to other males. Clearly, I can’t actually relate to them — I can only pretend to relate to them and attempt to fool myself into relating to them. And why should I want to? They’re fools and intellectual cowards by and large, two of the qualities which I find most repellent on this Earth. They spare themselves a great deal of pain by embracing lies — for this reason as much as any I do indeed resent them.
I am beginning to scrape my health back together after years of debauchery for this reason.
You’ve imbibed your propaganda well. That was happening then, but that was a world away from what those who supported them understood them to be about. That includes the leaders of the revolutions in Eastern Europe.
And I was there for those, so don’t tell me they were just so much U.S. imperialism.
Speaking of an emotional support animal, what would yours be?
I think mine would look like this:
2. Subsequently you will be in a position to observe that 85% of the population will go to any length to avoid taking responsibility for their fitness and would rather be slobs and complain.
3. These same folks, without exception, will consider themselves experts on diet, exercise and fitness, and will take any opportunity to lecture you, fit person, on what you are wrong about. The fitter you are, the more people will find reasons to insist that you are really the unhealthy one.
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I imagine the above experience may have a carryover effect as to how you observe other issues in society.
Also if you are younger and accidentally lift yourself into the top 5-10% of men in your area, you are about to get a sexy lesson in the more Darwinian aspects of sexual behaviour of the human female. If the seduction guys are any indication this is a one way ave to badthink in other areas.
this is an interesting observation. I used to be the younger fitter person in my group of friends before I had some health issues that slowed me down. Back then they would talk to me about fitness etc., but I didn’t pay it much mind because I figured I was okay. Now I could use some encouragement and advice,… crickets. However, one of my really overweight friends did tell me that I was the only friend who never tried to tell her how to lose weight. I replied that I had no idea how to lose weight because I had never done it myself, so of course, I couldn’t tell someone how to do it.
The cheap way to do it is just to give the questionaire/survey to the students at beginning and end of any of the PE type classes that they are required to take in college.
Breaking it down into relevant syllables, we have "Someone [singular] had posted a picture of themselves [plural relative pronoun].
So, the observer knows about the 'picture' - an image of the writer's subject. The image contained one individual. This keen observer was presumably NOT able to determine the sex [gender] of said individual, so resorted to a grammatically incorrect, but attempted gender neutral plural pronoun, "themselves." Actually, I'm surprised that the PC pronoun 'themself" hasn't been coined already. Well, I guess I just did.
Since “they” has gone full retard, how about “theirself”
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Theyself
I grew up listening to my mom and grandma talk and I could swear Heartiste is the both of them wrapped together and reincarnated. He sounds exactly like them.
I think mine would look like this:
https://sasscer.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/image16.jpg
That actually looks almost exactly like my dog! He is my comfort animal.
His predecessors too. It’s been German Shepherds all the way, the most loyal, trainable buddies and protectors.
Happened to me too. In my case, the ladies were dripping wet.
They were all sweaty, having just disgorged from the hot yoga studio or whatnot.
I think mine would look like this:
https://sasscer.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/image16.jpg
Here’s mine.
I regard a “Syrian refugee” and a Shen as completely different priorities.
Maybe something to do with American schooling where everyone is expected and encouraged to have a view and all views are given equal weight no matter how dumb/ignorant/irrelevant
Non Americans fnd this exasperating
Non-Americans aren’t allowed to have opinions. If you put forward perfectly correct information, it could go very badly for you. And everybody would ask, why the hell did he open his mouth in the first place? The Italians say, “the man who plays alone bothers no one.”
That’s because they don’t have trumpets.
No, it doesn’t. I don’t know of a single man who doesn’t have some ambivalence towards women, no matter how much they love them. Women are just as ambivalent about us and it’s equally justified. In any case, there’s no need to make it a binary choice between gullibility and a lonely refusal to be deceived about their nature. Thinking that way is just an exercise in self-marginalization.
This is all just ego defense stuff, anyone who reads it can see it for the insecurity that it is. I’m not knocking you, because again, I’ve been there, but it’s not doing you any favors to think like that.
*thumbs up*
Lmao broscience has arrived.
Jeff Flake has given Avenatti a wide opening for this coming week.
Tend to agree, as we have seen the FBI has become nothing more than the Gestapo for the Dems. The only thing that tempers my pessimism at this point however is the President’s comfort in proceeding with the investigation. With luck the FBI may have enough straight arrows to actually investigate fairly, including an investigation into the accusers background and financial windfall received upon going public with the assault charge.
earlier on iSteve:
‘Cass Sunstein: “Could Bowling Leagues and the PTA Breed Nazis?”‘ (www.unz.com/isteve/sunstein-could-bowling-leagues-and-pta/)
Lift heavy weights(deadlifts) or carry heavy weights(farmer walks).