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From The Guardian:

Feminist retelling of Nineteen Eighty-Four approved by Orwell’s estate

American writer Sandra Newman’s novel Julia will tell the dystopian story from the perspective of Winston Smith’s lover

Alison Flood
Tue 7 Dec 2021 04.00 EST

The estate of George Orwell has approved a feminist retelling of Nineteen Eighty-Four, which reimagines the story from the perspective of Winston Smith’s lover Julia. …

In Julia by Sandra Newman, the incidents of Nineteen Eighty-Four are seen through the woman’s eyes. “It was the man from Records who began it, him all unknowing in his prim, grim way, his above-it-all oldthink way. He was the one Syme called ‘Old Misery’,” writes Newman. “Comrade Smith was his right name, though ‘Comrade’ never suited him somehow. Of course, if you felt foolish calling someone ‘Comrade’, far better not to speak to them at all.”

… “She has known no other world and, until she meets Winston, never imagined one. She’s opportunistic, believing in nothing and caring not at all about politics. She routinely breaks the rules but also collaborates with the regime whenever necessary. She’s an ideal citizen of Oceania,” said Granta. …

I was going to make fun of this. But on second thought, it sounds like it might turn out okay.

We live in an era of diminished creativity when 20th Century intellectual property (e.g., Spider-Man) is all the rage. On the other hand, the cultural conservatism of our time has its advantages. And in the Current Year, what better to spin off from than 1984?

Julia will be published after Granta releases Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world – next June. It is the latest in a series of feminist retellings of classic stories, from Natalie Haynes’s reimagining of the Trojan war A Thousand Ships, and Pat Barker’s The Silence of the Girls, a version of the Iliad from the perspective of Briseis, to Maggie O’Farrell’s Hamnet, which centres on the life of Shakespeare’s wife, and Jeet Thayil’s Names of the Women, which tells the stories of 15 women whose lives overlapped with Jesus.

Homer, Shakespeare, and the Evangelists …

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  1. So, Ms. Newman is going to publish a book called Julia, intended to be a re-telling of 1984 from a woman’s perspective?

    Hmm. Well the title right there gives it away; sounds like it will be so much narcissistic female navel-gazing, probably with passages about how Winston doesn’t notice what she did with her hair.

    Then there’s this: Julia will be published after Granta releases Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world – next June.

    News flash: all the y chromosomes didn’t vanish; we just made you think we did. In reality, we all found a pub in Shangri-La where there are no women!

    BTW Steve, I hope you received my Zelle donation; otherwise someone else named Steve Sailer is living it up!

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Captain Tripps


    Then there’s this: Julia will be published after Granta releases Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world – next June.
     
    A month or two of starvation in the cold and dark--sped up for some by dysentery--doesn't really make a great story overall, but the first few chapters of this could be quite entertaining.

    Some well armed--mostly Christian conservative--farm families into self-sufficiency, would make a go of this with the background issue of whether God was going to come along and do his business like with Mary.

    But the first few days for the "proud women of color", the academic feminists, the yard sign virtue signalers would be hilarious. Especially at the very beginning when their cell phones stop working.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  2. In these times of your average Comrade errr, Citizen, going around wearing a useless face mask and standing on stickers because The Authoritah, Big Brother Anthony, says so, I think this movie will go over really well… not as a dystopian Sci-Fi flick, that is, but as a WWII newsreel type of Patriotic People’s Movie.

    Julia will be the heroine. She will wear her face mask as she does her hero work stocking candy corn and asking for phone numbers for savings cards and making scans of vaccine passport ID’s at the drug store that go directly to Big Brother, I mean, the Walgreen’s Corporate savings awards department.

    I guess the rat scene will go over well with the teen viewers, though there will have to be a long scene afterwards with Julia bitching to Big Brother about gender rights equity in rat interrogations, plus a disclaimer at the end about no rat’s being harmed during the filming. Rats!

    They might want to leave out the 1 + 1 = 5 scene, as most of the audience wouldn’t get it.

    I wonder if Emmanuel Goldstein will look a lot like Steve Sailer. Has anyone asked you about coming to a casting meeting, Steve? Doesn’t your brother have an elementary school classmate who played foosball with that guy who runs that biggest casting company in Hollywood?

  3. Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those “two minute hate” sessions. So she’d be a familiar figure to us today…

    • Thanks: Richard B
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @International Jew

    That makes destroying the little bird even more exciting!

    , @Sick of Orcs
    @International Jew

    Very strange. A real protest would welcome media attention.

    , @Richard B
    @International Jew

    It's as if someone dropped a Cluster-B Personality Disorder Bomb on the United States, and not just the United States. Actually, a better word would be detonated, since the bomb was already there. Obviously! This insanity didn't come out of nowhere.

    , @Known Fact
    @International Jew

    Puhleeze -- we lose our bowl game on the last play and the next morning I have to see her again?

    , @TWS
    @International Jew

    It would be hilarious if they cast can we get some muscle here? Woman as Julia.

    Replies: @International Jew

    , @S
    @International Jew


    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those “two minute hate” sessions.
     
    1984 is one of those rare rich works that is forever producing something new and prescient with every additional reading.

    For anyone who might need a refresher:

    'During the Two Minutes Hate she always excelled all others in shouting insults..’

    1984 – Part 2, Chapter 5

    ‘Times beyond number, at Party rallies and spontaneous demonstrations, she had shouted at the top of her voice for the execution of people whose names she had never heard and in whose supposed crimes she had not the faintest belief. When public trials were happening she had taken her place in the detachments from the Youth League who surrounded the courts from morning to night, chanting at intervals ‘Death to the traitors!’ During the Two Minutes Hate she always excelled all others in shouting insults’…’She had grown up since the Revolution and was too young to remember the ideological battles of the fifties and sixties. Such a thing as an independent political movement was outside her imagination..’
     
    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/12.html

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  4. This is quite literally glorified fan-fiction. But will it have steamy sex scenes?

    Next up: Genderqueer Harry Potter reboot. J.K. Rowling’s permission isn’t required, you understand, because she is a Bad Person.

  5. Five people will willingly purchase the book, but college students from Sarah Lawrence to Vassar will be forced to buy it guaranteeing a nice little royalty check to the author.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Rich


    Five people will willingly purchase the book, but college students from Sarah Lawrence to Vassar will be forced to buy it guaranteeing a nice little royalty check to the author.
     
    Every school and public library will buy a copy too.
  6. It would make more sense to retell Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World from Lenina Crowne’s perspective. Huxley’s novel just gets better with age, and the vacuous Future Woman he portrays has leapt out of its pages and into our lives. Give Lenina an uptalk and vocal fry voice, tattoos, piercings, social media accounts and a smart phone to wear on her fashionable Malthusian Belt, and she would fit right in with many of today’s Millennial and Zoomer girls.

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  8. “American writer Sandra Newman’s novel Julia will tell the dystopian story from the perspective of Winston Smith’s lover”

    Also, what are the odds Winston turns about to be a rapist?

    • LOL: Vinnyvette
  9. Will there be a character called Big Sister?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Likely, she'll be modeled after this one:

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/Janet_Reno.jpg

    Replies: @Richard B

  10. The estate of George Orwell has approved a feminist retelling of Nineteen Eighty-Four, which reimagines the story from the perspective of Winston Smith’s lover Julia.

    LOL, Clownworld is beyond parody:

    “Winston… disliked nearly all women, and especially the young and pretty ones. It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy.”

    • Replies: @fish
    @Dr. X

    Dr. X you say....was sure that this would be Alden....noser-out of all things Unz that impugns the character of women.

    , @Vinnyvette
    @Dr. X

    In other words the "Karen's."

  11. Orwell died in 1950. In most countries, copyright is Life + 70 years, many are less. So in nearly all English-speaking countries, Orwell is now out of copyright. So income coming to the Orwell Estate ( I believe his stepson Tom is still alive, living on a farm somewhere in Scotland ) will be very diminished.

    I am sure, as we speak, various novelists, journalists and others are writing prequels ( 1983 !), sequels and rewrites. So this looks like a final attempt by the Orwell Estate to maximise income. Very late in the day, though. I would have thought they would have been doing this 20 years ago, but who actually controls the estate seems to be a mystery. Do any readers know?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Verymuchalive

    For an example of this sort of thing done well, read Mr. Darcy's Diary. It is Pride and Prejudice told from Mr. Darcy's point of view.

    I have no doubt that Julia's 1984 will be impossibly woke, and hugely successful too.

    https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Darcys-Diary-Amanda-Grange-ebook/dp/B009WUHBKG

  12. Derivative like all feminist literature.

  13. Julia will be published after Granta releases Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world – next June.

    Note how she says “every person with a Y chromosome”, just in case we think she’s referring to those insane people with a phantom Y chromosome who “identify” as men. I think they’ll find them a poor substitute.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Rob McX

    We need a new word for men, since men no longer means just men and "person with a Y chromosome" is kind of awkward. I propose Pway, pronounced pee way.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Rob, @mc23

  14. @Jonathan Mason
    Will there be a character called Big Sister?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Likely, she’ll be modeled after this one:

    • LOL: Spect3r
    • Replies: @Richard B
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The Face of Evil!

  15. I may direct the lectorate to another spinoff of 1984, sorta of like a mashup with a “Bastard Operator from Hell” episode, with a Hollywood ending twist (you could move to the production stage right away):

    From:

    Toast: And Other Rusted Futures:

    we have:

    Big Brother Iron

  16. Why does she need approval? Aren’t things like parodies and fan fiction pretty much permitted by fair use laws? I believe they are in the United States. Is it different in England?

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Clearly, she wants it to be official. If it's just a parody or fan fiction, then it will be rightly derided for what it is: modern propaganda and claptrap, taking an older classic and mutilating it to fit into a politically appropriate and "novel" theme. If it's officially blessed by a relevant institution, even one as apparently decayed and corrupted as the Blair estate, then it becomes what it is meant to be: an officially sanctioned alteration of the past achieving a measurable, if slight, victory in the ongoing culture war.

    This is why Pride & Prejudice & Zombies is a funny parody of a classic using modern horror/social media tropes, but not actually an officially sanctioned reconstruction of Victorian mores and life to fit a new cultural agenda.

  17. At least the curtains will be nicer, so there is that.

  18. @International Jew
    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those "two minute hate" sessions. So she'd be a familiar figure to us today...
    https://youtu.be/3kVGtqp7usw

    Replies: @El Dato, @Sick of Orcs, @Richard B, @Known Fact, @TWS, @S

    That makes destroying the little bird even more exciting!

  19. I don’t know how many people read books for the prose anymore, but that sample is brutally bad. It’s got that flavor of “I started with fanfic and now I’m a real writer!”

    It’s a long way from that bright cold day in April when the clocks were striking thirteen.

  20. *She’s opportunistic, believing in nothing and caring not at all about politics. She routinely breaks the rules but also collaborates with the regime whenever necessary. She’s an ideal citizen of Oceania,” said Granta*
    Sounds like Angela Merkel’s early life as an informer in the DDR.

  21. @Rob McX

    Julia will be published after Granta releases Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world – next June.
     
    Note how she says "every person with a Y chromosome", just in case we think she's referring to those insane people with a phantom Y chromosome who "identify" as men. I think they'll find them a poor substitute.

    Replies: @Jack D

    We need a new word for men, since men no longer means just men and “person with a Y chromosome” is kind of awkward. I propose Pway, pronounced pee way.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Jack D

    Nah, all new names have to have an 'X' . Perhaps Pwayx?

    , @Rob
    @Jack D

    How about pocy, person of chromosome y. Pronounced pokie, like a diminiutive finger poke.

    Women can be pocx, pronouncd pox.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @mc23
    @Jack D

    I use Pew. Penile Enabled Women

  22. Will Julia be Black? If not, I’m not interested.

    Last night I was watching a BBC costume drama/murder mystery. The premise is that Agatha Christie goes to Iraq in the late 1920s to visit an archeological dig and there she meets her future husband, a much younger man. That part of the story is actually true, but then they overlay a fictional murder mystery plot on top of that.

    Anyway, the story was proceeding along quite nicely – you could tell that they had spent a lot of money on sets and costumes and made great efforts to make everything look like 1920’s Iraq. All the Arabs looked like Arabs and had Arabic accents (or spoke Arabic with subtitles) and so on. So far so good.

    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character. That’s when I changed the channel.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Jack D

    Was she a slave to one of the Arabs?

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D


    That’s when I changed the channel.
     
    Excellent! That's exactly the way I watch movies, Jack. On an airplane a few months ago, I was all psyched about a movie about re-incarnation and got about 10-15 minutes into it... If nothing else, it at least resulted in a blog post - "Nine Days to Patton - movie non-review", so there's that ...
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character.
     
    From an otherwise decent TV show:

    In Curious George Gets a Medal, Professor Wiseman is a Caucasian male. He is the director and owner of the science museum...

    Professor Wiseman is now female, having bobbed black hair. Professor Wiseman is wearing glasses, a lab coat, a collared blouse, blue jeans and flats. In the TV series, she is black.


    https://curious-george.fandom.com/wiki/Professor_Wiseman
     

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/curious-george/images/4/47/Screen_Shot_2019-06-25_at_11.16.40_AM.png


    https://marchfirstweek.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/george-girls.jpg?w=672&h=718

    She off-handedly refers to herself as a "genius". That part is authentically black!

    Replies: @Jack D, @International Jew

    , @Etruscan Film Star
    @Jack D


    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character. That’s when I changed the channel.

     

    Next spinoff: Agatha played by a black tranny. Murder victim corpse played by a straight white male.
  23. Chicklit novel about Shakespeare’s hausfrau. Hmm. Anne lures younger but horny fellow into the bushes, gets pregnant – they must wed. Has three children, two are fraternal twins, a boy and girl. Bill hits the big city and makes it big, the Neil Simon of his day who also dabbles in history and tragic melodrama.

    Bill cheats on wife with alluring Dark Lady of many talents and intelligence. In turn, she betrays him with a young lord he’s tutoring.

    Anne bakes bread and raises the kids. Repeat scene many times. Sigh. Poor Anne. Neglected Anne. She has a story to tell. It’s all about being neglected but joyfully raising her kids and baking bread. You go girl!

  24. @Jack D
    Will Julia be Black? If not, I'm not interested.

    Last night I was watching a BBC costume drama/murder mystery. The premise is that Agatha Christie goes to Iraq in the late 1920s to visit an archeological dig and there she meets her future husband, a much younger man. That part of the story is actually true, but then they overlay a fictional murder mystery plot on top of that.

    Anyway, the story was proceeding along quite nicely - you could tell that they had spent a lot of money on sets and costumes and made great efforts to make everything look like 1920's Iraq. All the Arabs looked like Arabs and had Arabic accents (or spoke Arabic with subtitles) and so on. So far so good.

    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character. That's when I changed the channel.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @Etruscan Film Star

    Was she a slave to one of the Arabs?

    • LOL: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @International Jew

    The writers had originally written her as being of royal heritage and extremely wealthy as well as being incredibly good looking and brilliant but then they decided to tone it down a little to make it more realistic.

  25. @Jack D
    @Rob McX

    We need a new word for men, since men no longer means just men and "person with a Y chromosome" is kind of awkward. I propose Pway, pronounced pee way.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Rob, @mc23

    Nah, all new names have to have an ‘X’ . Perhaps Pwayx?

  26. Allowing estates to hold copyright is seriously deviant, for reasons exactly like this.

    I’m against copyright in general. Trying to push water upstream. Dissonant with property rights.

  27. @International Jew
    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those "two minute hate" sessions. So she'd be a familiar figure to us today...
    https://youtu.be/3kVGtqp7usw

    Replies: @El Dato, @Sick of Orcs, @Richard B, @Known Fact, @TWS, @S

    Very strange. A real protest would welcome media attention.

  28. @International Jew
    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those "two minute hate" sessions. So she'd be a familiar figure to us today...
    https://youtu.be/3kVGtqp7usw

    Replies: @El Dato, @Sick of Orcs, @Richard B, @Known Fact, @TWS, @S

    It’s as if someone dropped a Cluster-B Personality Disorder Bomb on the United States, and not just the United States. Actually, a better word would be detonated, since the bomb was already there. Obviously! This insanity didn’t come out of nowhere.

    • Agree: Vinnyvette
  29. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Likely, she'll be modeled after this one:

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/Janet_Reno.jpg

    Replies: @Richard B

    The Face of Evil!

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  30. Julia guzzles Victory Box Wine instead of Victory Gin

  31. @International Jew
    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those "two minute hate" sessions. So she'd be a familiar figure to us today...
    https://youtu.be/3kVGtqp7usw

    Replies: @El Dato, @Sick of Orcs, @Richard B, @Known Fact, @TWS, @S

    Puhleeze — we lose our bowl game on the last play and the next morning I have to see her again?

  32. Now I’m feeling bad that my 2021 Buccothon didn’t turn out to be more remunerative for our host, so for next season I’m thinking of adding tiered bonus incentives — like if they can lose less than 100 games.

  33. @International Jew
    @Jack D

    Was she a slave to one of the Arabs?

    Replies: @Jack D

    The writers had originally written her as being of royal heritage and extremely wealthy as well as being incredibly good looking and brilliant but then they decided to tone it down a little to make it more realistic.

  34. @Jack D
    Will Julia be Black? If not, I'm not interested.

    Last night I was watching a BBC costume drama/murder mystery. The premise is that Agatha Christie goes to Iraq in the late 1920s to visit an archeological dig and there she meets her future husband, a much younger man. That part of the story is actually true, but then they overlay a fictional murder mystery plot on top of that.

    Anyway, the story was proceeding along quite nicely - you could tell that they had spent a lot of money on sets and costumes and made great efforts to make everything look like 1920's Iraq. All the Arabs looked like Arabs and had Arabic accents (or spoke Arabic with subtitles) and so on. So far so good.

    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character. That's when I changed the channel.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @Etruscan Film Star

    That’s when I changed the channel.

    Excellent! That’s exactly the way I watch movies, Jack. On an airplane a few months ago, I was all psyched about a movie about re-incarnation and got about 10-15 minutes into it… If nothing else, it at least resulted in a blog post – “Nine Days to Patton – movie non-review”, so there’s that …

  35. …the current triennial iSteve fundraiser.

    These occur more often than every three years. Nine times as often. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    Well, the fact that Steve isn’t rolling in Scrooge McDuck-like lucre from three decades of informing us, there’s something wrong with that.

    • Replies: @res
    @Reg Cæsar

    Right. https://wikidiff.com/triannual/triennial

  36. @International Jew
    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those "two minute hate" sessions. So she'd be a familiar figure to us today...
    https://youtu.be/3kVGtqp7usw

    Replies: @El Dato, @Sick of Orcs, @Richard B, @Known Fact, @TWS, @S

    It would be hilarious if they cast can we get some muscle here? Woman as Julia.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @TWS

    Excellent casting idea. She'd go well with the overall theme of the wretchedness of poor Winston's life: bad gin, bad tobacco, an underheated apartment — and a girlfriend like that.

    Just as long as I don't have to see her titties on screen.

  37. @Jack D
    Will Julia be Black? If not, I'm not interested.

    Last night I was watching a BBC costume drama/murder mystery. The premise is that Agatha Christie goes to Iraq in the late 1920s to visit an archeological dig and there she meets her future husband, a much younger man. That part of the story is actually true, but then they overlay a fictional murder mystery plot on top of that.

    Anyway, the story was proceeding along quite nicely - you could tell that they had spent a lot of money on sets and costumes and made great efforts to make everything look like 1920's Iraq. All the Arabs looked like Arabs and had Arabic accents (or spoke Arabic with subtitles) and so on. So far so good.

    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character. That's when I changed the channel.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @Etruscan Film Star

    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character.

    From an otherwise decent TV show:

    In Curious George Gets a Medal, Professor Wiseman is a Caucasian male. He is the director and owner of the science museum…

    Professor Wiseman is now female, having bobbed black hair. Professor Wiseman is wearing glasses, a lab coat, a collared blouse, blue jeans and flats. In the TV series, she is black.

    https://curious-george.fandom.com/wiki/Professor_Wiseman



    She off-handedly refers to herself as a “genius”. That part is authentically black!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The problem with our elites is that they believe their own BS. It's one thing to conjure up genius black women as fictional cartoon characters but then they conjure up Kamala and she doesn't meet the cartoon expectations.

    , @International Jew
    @Reg Cæsar

    I guess today that's the only way to save Curious George from extinction.

    A woke Curious George opens a lot of interesting possibilities. "Curious George arrested for driving-while-monkey..." "Curious George loots Louis Vuiton...'

  38. @Jack D
    @Rob McX

    We need a new word for men, since men no longer means just men and "person with a Y chromosome" is kind of awkward. I propose Pway, pronounced pee way.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Rob, @mc23

    How about pocy, person of chromosome y. Pronounced pokie, like a diminiutive finger poke.

    Women can be pocx, pronouncd pox.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob


    Women can be pocx, pronouncd pox.
     
    Do they get Pocxemon points?

    Replies: @Rob

  39. @Rob
    @Jack D

    How about pocy, person of chromosome y. Pronounced pokie, like a diminiutive finger poke.

    Women can be pocx, pronouncd pox.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Women can be pocx, pronouncd pox.

    Do they get Pocxemon points?

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Reg Cæsar

    Perhaps podox, People of DOuble X or podoux, People of DOUble X, pronounced podo or podeu. If we use podo, then heterosexual men and lesbians will all be podophiles.

  40. what a way to miss the entire point Orwell was making!

  41. Was Joan Didion a feminist?

    Joan Didion on the “political process” :

    JD: Everyone inside the process has benefited. And that’s a larger and larger group of people. It’s not just politicians. It’s all the people for whom politics is their business. It’s people you see all day long now on the talk shows. Because of cable, there is no hour of the day when you can’t watch somebody within the political class arguing with somebody else within the political class. These are people who don’t have a very deep commitment to the rest of the country; in fact, they have none. You saw that most markedly during the year that led up to the impeachment; essentially the political class turned against the people and excoriated them at every opportunity for not going along with the notion that Clinton had to go. The American people were said to be interested in nothing but the Dow Jones, which was saying they were selfish, they were stupid, they were irresponsible. You saw the idea of secular democracy itself put up for grabs that year, which was pretty startling.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2001/10/19/joan-didion-takes-on-the-political/

    David Byrne channeling Joan Didion:

    One and One does not equal Two. No sir! No sir!

    Silicon Gulch
    Silicon Prairie
    Silicon Hill
    Silicon Valley

    You better wake up

    It’s late
    It’s late
    It’s late

    Puzzling Evidence from the movie TRUE STORIES by David Byrne:

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Charles Pewitt

    I loved her early writing, which still has lessons for the English grads heading for NYC, London, and the fertility sink. She wrote with affection about her distinctly non-NYC California background and family, too.

    https://genius.com/Joan-didion-goodbye-to-all-that-annotated


    Part of what I want to tell you is what it is like to be young in New York, how six months can become eight years with the deceptive ease of a film dissolve, for that is how those years appear to me now, in a long sequence of sentimental dissolves and old-fashioned trick shots—the Seagram Building fountains dissolve into snowflakes, I enter a revolving door at twenty and come out a good deal older, and on a different street. But most particularly I want to explain to you, and in the process perhaps to myself, why I no longer live in New York. It is often said that New York is a city for only the very rich and the very poor. It is less often said that New York is also, at least for those of us who came there from somewhere else, a city only for the very young.

    I remember once, one cold bright December evening in New York, suggesting a friend who complained of having been around too long that he come with me to a party where there would be, I assured him with the bright resourcefulness of twenty-three, “new faces.” He laughed literally until he choked, and I had to roll down the taxi window and hit him on the back. “New faces,” he said finally, “don’t tell me about new faces.” It seemed that the last time he had gone to a party where he had been promised “new faces,” there had been fifteen people in the room, and he had already slept with five of the women and owed money to all but two of the men. I laughed with him, but the first snow had just begun to fall and the big Christmas trees glittered yellow and white as far as I could see up Park Avenue and I had a new dress and it would be a long while before I would come to understand the particular moral of the story....

    You will have perceived by now that I was not one to profit by the experience of others, that it was a very long time indeed before I stopped believing in new faces and began to understand the lesson in that story, which was that it is distinctly possible to stay too long at the Fair.

     

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Charles Pewitt

    Thank, Mr. Pewitt, for the video (coming to me soon) and the Annie Lennox music.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Charles Pewitt


    ...essentially the political class turned against the people and excoriated them at every opportunity for not going along with the notion that Clinton had to go.
     
    Huh? A lot of us hoi polloi wanted to see him go as well!
    , @Alden
    @Charles Pewitt

    Didion was a liberal. Nuff said.

  42. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character.
     
    From an otherwise decent TV show:

    In Curious George Gets a Medal, Professor Wiseman is a Caucasian male. He is the director and owner of the science museum...

    Professor Wiseman is now female, having bobbed black hair. Professor Wiseman is wearing glasses, a lab coat, a collared blouse, blue jeans and flats. In the TV series, she is black.


    https://curious-george.fandom.com/wiki/Professor_Wiseman
     

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/curious-george/images/4/47/Screen_Shot_2019-06-25_at_11.16.40_AM.png


    https://marchfirstweek.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/george-girls.jpg?w=672&h=718

    She off-handedly refers to herself as a "genius". That part is authentically black!

    Replies: @Jack D, @International Jew

    The problem with our elites is that they believe their own BS. It’s one thing to conjure up genius black women as fictional cartoon characters but then they conjure up Kamala and she doesn’t meet the cartoon expectations.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  43. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character.
     
    From an otherwise decent TV show:

    In Curious George Gets a Medal, Professor Wiseman is a Caucasian male. He is the director and owner of the science museum...

    Professor Wiseman is now female, having bobbed black hair. Professor Wiseman is wearing glasses, a lab coat, a collared blouse, blue jeans and flats. In the TV series, she is black.


    https://curious-george.fandom.com/wiki/Professor_Wiseman
     

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/curious-george/images/4/47/Screen_Shot_2019-06-25_at_11.16.40_AM.png


    https://marchfirstweek.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/george-girls.jpg?w=672&h=718

    She off-handedly refers to herself as a "genius". That part is authentically black!

    Replies: @Jack D, @International Jew

    I guess today that’s the only way to save Curious George from extinction.

    A woke Curious George opens a lot of interesting possibilities. “Curious George arrested for driving-while-monkey…” “Curious George loots Louis Vuiton…’

  44. Annie Lennox of the band Eurythmics singing Julia for 1984 album:

    Double Plus Good:

    • Thanks: S
  45. @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob


    Women can be pocx, pronouncd pox.
     
    Do they get Pocxemon points?

    Replies: @Rob

    Perhaps podox, People of DOuble X or podoux, People of DOUble X, pronounced podo or podeu. If we use podo, then heterosexual men and lesbians will all be podophiles.

  46. The Babylon Bee continues in the feminist retelling mode:

    Women’s Quidditch League Dominated By Talented New Athlete, Viktoria Krum

    Promising new athlete Viktoria Krum has swept the entire women’s quidditch league off of their brooms with her powerful debut. Soaring in from the Durmstrang Institute, this witch has wasted no time in making quidditch history.

    “How does she move at such speed and still have the grip strength to hang on to her broom?!” said local photographer Colin Creevey. “I’ve never seen such raw strength in a woman athlete!”

    • Replies: @mc23
    @Anon7

    Imagine the wizarding photograph of Viktoria Krum winking back at you.

    http://thebestgifsforme.blogspot.com/2012/06/harry-potter-gifs.html

  47. I don’t see what’s so bad about this Julia thing. It’ll probably suck because almost everything nowadays sucks. But not because of the premise. I can imagine a good writer, someone like Christina Stead or Doris Lessing, doing a good job of it.

    BTW Joan Didion died. She was quite a craftsman and wrote great stuff about California in the 60s. (Cue the nasty comments from the usual sources. I’m ready.)

  48. @Dr. X

    The estate of George Orwell has approved a feminist retelling of Nineteen Eighty-Four, which reimagines the story from the perspective of Winston Smith’s lover Julia.
     
    LOL, Clownworld is beyond parody:

    "Winston... disliked nearly all women, and especially the young and pretty ones. It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy."

    Replies: @fish, @Vinnyvette

    Dr. X you say….was sure that this would be Alden….noser-out of all things Unz that impugns the character of women.

  49. @Charles Pewitt
    Was Joan Didion a feminist?

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1474061807258066947?s=20

    Joan Didion on the "political process" :

    JD: Everyone inside the process has benefited. And that’s a larger and larger group of people. It’s not just politicians. It’s all the people for whom politics is their business. It’s people you see all day long now on the talk shows. Because of cable, there is no hour of the day when you can’t watch somebody within the political class arguing with somebody else within the political class. These are people who don’t have a very deep commitment to the rest of the country; in fact, they have none. You saw that most markedly during the year that led up to the impeachment; essentially the political class turned against the people and excoriated them at every opportunity for not going along with the notion that Clinton had to go. The American people were said to be interested in nothing but the Dow Jones, which was saying they were selfish, they were stupid, they were irresponsible. You saw the idea of secular democracy itself put up for grabs that year, which was pretty startling.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2001/10/19/joan-didion-takes-on-the-political/

    David Byrne channeling Joan Didion:

    One and One does not equal Two. No sir! No sir!

    Silicon Gulch
    Silicon Prairie
    Silicon Hill
    Silicon Valley

    You better wake up

    It’s late
    It’s late
    It’s late

    Puzzling Evidence from the movie TRUE STORIES by David Byrne:

    https://youtu.be/TriaOVgwc1Y

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    I loved her early writing, which still has lessons for the English grads heading for NYC, London, and the fertility sink. She wrote with affection about her distinctly non-NYC California background and family, too.

    https://genius.com/Joan-didion-goodbye-to-all-that-annotated

    Part of what I want to tell you is what it is like to be young in New York, how six months can become eight years with the deceptive ease of a film dissolve, for that is how those years appear to me now, in a long sequence of sentimental dissolves and old-fashioned trick shots—the Seagram Building fountains dissolve into snowflakes, I enter a revolving door at twenty and come out a good deal older, and on a different street. But most particularly I want to explain to you, and in the process perhaps to myself, why I no longer live in New York. It is often said that New York is a city for only the very rich and the very poor. It is less often said that New York is also, at least for those of us who came there from somewhere else, a city only for the very young.

    I remember once, one cold bright December evening in New York, suggesting a friend who complained of having been around too long that he come with me to a party where there would be, I assured him with the bright resourcefulness of twenty-three, “new faces.” He laughed literally until he choked, and I had to roll down the taxi window and hit him on the back. “New faces,” he said finally, “don’t tell me about new faces.” It seemed that the last time he had gone to a party where he had been promised “new faces,” there had been fifteen people in the room, and he had already slept with five of the women and owed money to all but two of the men. I laughed with him, but the first snow had just begun to fall and the big Christmas trees glittered yellow and white as far as I could see up Park Avenue and I had a new dress and it would be a long while before I would come to understand the particular moral of the story….

    You will have perceived by now that I was not one to profit by the experience of others, that it was a very long time indeed before I stopped believing in new faces and began to understand the lesson in that story, which was that it is distinctly possible to stay too long at the Fair.

  50. @Jack D
    @Rob McX

    We need a new word for men, since men no longer means just men and "person with a Y chromosome" is kind of awkward. I propose Pway, pronounced pee way.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Rob, @mc23

    I use Pew. Penile Enabled Women

  51. @Anon7
    The Babylon Bee continues in the feminist retelling mode:

    Women’s Quidditch League Dominated By Talented New Athlete, Viktoria Krum

    Promising new athlete Viktoria Krum has swept the entire women’s quidditch league off of their brooms with her powerful debut. Soaring in from the Durmstrang Institute, this witch has wasted no time in making quidditch history.

    “How does she move at such speed and still have the grip strength to hang on to her broom?!” said local photographer Colin Creevey. “I’ve never seen such raw strength in a woman athlete!”
     

    Replies: @mc23

    Imagine the wizarding photograph of Viktoria Krum winking back at you.

    http://thebestgifsforme.blogspot.com/2012/06/harry-potter-gifs.html

  52. @Jack D
    Will Julia be Black? If not, I'm not interested.

    Last night I was watching a BBC costume drama/murder mystery. The premise is that Agatha Christie goes to Iraq in the late 1920s to visit an archeological dig and there she meets her future husband, a much younger man. That part of the story is actually true, but then they overlay a fictional murder mystery plot on top of that.

    Anyway, the story was proceeding along quite nicely - you could tell that they had spent a lot of money on sets and costumes and made great efforts to make everything look like 1920's Iraq. All the Arabs looked like Arabs and had Arabic accents (or spoke Arabic with subtitles) and so on. So far so good.

    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character. That's when I changed the channel.

    Replies: @International Jew, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @Etruscan Film Star

    But then about a half hour into the show out of nowhere they introduced this incredibly smart (has a PhD) but totally unappreciated by her white boss Amazing Black Woman character. That’s when I changed the channel.

    Next spinoff: Agatha played by a black tranny. Murder victim corpse played by a straight white male.

  53. @Charles Pewitt
    Was Joan Didion a feminist?

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1474061807258066947?s=20

    Joan Didion on the "political process" :

    JD: Everyone inside the process has benefited. And that’s a larger and larger group of people. It’s not just politicians. It’s all the people for whom politics is their business. It’s people you see all day long now on the talk shows. Because of cable, there is no hour of the day when you can’t watch somebody within the political class arguing with somebody else within the political class. These are people who don’t have a very deep commitment to the rest of the country; in fact, they have none. You saw that most markedly during the year that led up to the impeachment; essentially the political class turned against the people and excoriated them at every opportunity for not going along with the notion that Clinton had to go. The American people were said to be interested in nothing but the Dow Jones, which was saying they were selfish, they were stupid, they were irresponsible. You saw the idea of secular democracy itself put up for grabs that year, which was pretty startling.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2001/10/19/joan-didion-takes-on-the-political/

    David Byrne channeling Joan Didion:

    One and One does not equal Two. No sir! No sir!

    Silicon Gulch
    Silicon Prairie
    Silicon Hill
    Silicon Valley

    You better wake up

    It’s late
    It’s late
    It’s late

    Puzzling Evidence from the movie TRUE STORIES by David Byrne:

    https://youtu.be/TriaOVgwc1Y

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Thank, Mr. Pewitt, for the video (coming to me soon) and the Annie Lennox music.

  54. FWIW,when I read 1984 as a yoot,I pictured Julia to be played,in the movie in my noggin,by Elizabeth James. I had recently seen the first Billy Jack movie,”Born Losers,” and she was the leading lady. She fine!
    Also,I pictured Winston to be Richard Benjamin,who,at that time, I knew from his tv show “He and She.”
    I think my casting was excellent.

  55. @Captain Tripps
    So, Ms. Newman is going to publish a book called Julia, intended to be a re-telling of 1984 from a woman's perspective?

    Hmm. Well the title right there gives it away; sounds like it will be so much narcissistic female navel-gazing, probably with passages about how Winston doesn't notice what she did with her hair.

    Then there's this: Julia will be published after Granta releases Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world – next June.

    News flash: all the y chromosomes didn't vanish; we just made you think we did. In reality, we all found a pub in Shangri-La where there are no women!

    BTW Steve, I hope you received my Zelle donation; otherwise someone else named Steve Sailer is living it up!

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Then there’s this: Julia will be published after Granta releases Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world – next June.

    A month or two of starvation in the cold and dark–sped up for some by dysentery–doesn’t really make a great story overall, but the first few chapters of this could be quite entertaining.

    Some well armed–mostly Christian conservative–farm families into self-sufficiency, would make a go of this with the background issue of whether God was going to come along and do his business like with Mary.

    But the first few days for the “proud women of color”, the academic feminists, the yard sign virtue signalers would be hilarious. Especially at the very beginning when their cell phones stop working.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: Captain Tripps
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @AnotherDad


    But the first few days for the “proud women of color”, the academic feminists, the yard sign virtue signalers would be hilarious. Especially at the very beginning when their cell phones stop working.
     
    They'll serve as a good source of protein for the Disproportionately-Represented-Americans.
  56. I wish they weren’t doing this, because Sandra Newman is terrific and I would much rather she create her own characters. But I guess she needs the money.

  57. Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world

    Newman needs to get with the times.

    The comic series Y: The Last Man already covered this in the ’00s:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y:_The_Last_Man

    Y: The Last Man is a post-apocalyptic science fiction comic book series by Brian K. Vaughan and Pia Guerra published by Vertigo from 2002 through 2008. The series centers on Yorick Brown and his pet Capuchin monkey Ampersand, the only males who survived the apparent global androcide. The series was published in sixty issues by Vertigo and collected in a series of ten paperback volumes (and later a series of five hardcover “Deluxe” volumes).

  58. @AnotherDad
    @Captain Tripps


    Then there’s this: Julia will be published after Granta releases Newman’s new novel The Men – in which every single person with a Y chromosome vanishes from the world – next June.
     
    A month or two of starvation in the cold and dark--sped up for some by dysentery--doesn't really make a great story overall, but the first few chapters of this could be quite entertaining.

    Some well armed--mostly Christian conservative--farm families into self-sufficiency, would make a go of this with the background issue of whether God was going to come along and do his business like with Mary.

    But the first few days for the "proud women of color", the academic feminists, the yard sign virtue signalers would be hilarious. Especially at the very beginning when their cell phones stop working.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    But the first few days for the “proud women of color”, the academic feminists, the yard sign virtue signalers would be hilarious. Especially at the very beginning when their cell phones stop working.

    They’ll serve as a good source of protein for the Disproportionately-Represented-Americans.

  59. @Reg Cæsar

    ...the current triennial iSteve fundraiser.
     
    These occur more often than every three years. Nine times as often. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Well, the fact that Steve isn't rolling in Scrooge McDuck-like lucre from three decades of informing us, there's something wrong with that.


    https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sport_of_tycoons.png

    Replies: @res

  60. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:

    This sounds like that short-lived publishing fad of a decade or so ago of inserting mythical creatures into 19th century stories, “Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Killer,” “Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies,” and so on. It was funny and clever for a while and to an extent.

    Also, a bit earlier there was the trend of modern, mostly British authors writing modern fiction set in the 19th century and written in a 19th century Dickensian style, fusty vocabulary and all, but with shorter paragraphs, thank God. Some of these pastiches were really impressive, such as “The Quincunx.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    A.S. Byatt's "Possession" is a real good novel about modern English department academics researching a Victorian literary love affair like Browning and Barrett, written in alternating styles. (Stoppard lifted the gimmick for "Arcadia.")

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Alden
    @Anon

    I read the Quincunxe. An endless series of unfortunate events. Gloom and doom all around. The authors who try to write in the style of Dickens Austen never get it right. The real appeal of Austen isn’t the family and love stories. It’s the incredible sarcasm and wicked wit.

    One of my favorites is Northanger Abbey. It starts at a resort. General Tilley hears a remark that heroine Katherine is a fabulously rich heiress. He fixes her up with his son. They like each other. Then the General finds she’s just middle class. Massive hysteria. That’s the plot. Better than the story is the wicked sarcasm about every character. Isabella gets engaged. Then finds out that fiancé ‘s income is less than she expected. The equivalent of 150K today rather than the 300K she expected.

  61. @Intelligent Dasein
    Why does she need approval? Aren't things like parodies and fan fiction pretty much permitted by fair use laws? I believe they are in the United States. Is it different in England?

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    Clearly, she wants it to be official. If it’s just a parody or fan fiction, then it will be rightly derided for what it is: modern propaganda and claptrap, taking an older classic and mutilating it to fit into a politically appropriate and “novel” theme. If it’s officially blessed by a relevant institution, even one as apparently decayed and corrupted as the Blair estate, then it becomes what it is meant to be: an officially sanctioned alteration of the past achieving a measurable, if slight, victory in the ongoing culture war.

    This is why Pride & Prejudice & Zombies is a funny parody of a classic using modern horror/social media tropes, but not actually an officially sanctioned reconstruction of Victorian mores and life to fit a new cultural agenda.

  62. My wife was in a card shop today and while searching for Christmas cards with specific relatives on them (nearly all sold out) she came across an unsold mass of cards with messages like:

    “To my son and son-in-law at Christmas.”

    “To my brother and brother-in-law at this special time.”

    Obviously the buyers at this business thought they would cash in on a trend, much like the woke re-writing of Marvel story lines and Orwell’s classic.

    Somebody should have reminded them of Trump’s observation that “everything woke turns to shit.”

  63. @International Jew
    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those "two minute hate" sessions. So she'd be a familiar figure to us today...
    https://youtu.be/3kVGtqp7usw

    Replies: @El Dato, @Sick of Orcs, @Richard B, @Known Fact, @TWS, @S

    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those “two minute hate” sessions.

    1984 is one of those rare rich works that is forever producing something new and prescient with every additional reading.

    For anyone who might need a refresher:

    ‘During the Two Minutes Hate she always excelled all others in shouting insults..’

    1984 – Part 2, Chapter 5

    ‘Times beyond number, at Party rallies and spontaneous demonstrations, she had shouted at the top of her voice for the execution of people whose names she had never heard and in whose supposed crimes she had not the faintest belief. When public trials were happening she had taken her place in the detachments from the Youth League who surrounded the courts from morning to night, chanting at intervals ‘Death to the traitors!’ During the Two Minutes Hate she always excelled all others in shouting insults’…’She had grown up since the Revolution and was too young to remember the ideological battles of the fifties and sixties. Such a thing as an independent political movement was outside her imagination..’

    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/12.html

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @S


    1984 is one of those rare rich works that is forever producing something new and prescient with every additional reading.
     
    For one thing, it wasn't a science fiction vision of what might happen in London, as most people take it, but a satire of what had already happened in Moscow.

    Women in Germany, e.g., Ilsa Koch, would take it to an extreme that shocked the men. She was first prosecuted by her own side. Are there Soviet cases like hers?
  64. @Anon
    This sounds like that short-lived publishing fad of a decade or so ago of inserting mythical creatures into 19th century stories, "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Killer," "Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies," and so on. It was funny and clever for a while and to an extent.

    Also, a bit earlier there was the trend of modern, mostly British authors writing modern fiction set in the 19th century and written in a 19th century Dickensian style, fusty vocabulary and all, but with shorter paragraphs, thank God. Some of these pastiches were really impressive, such as "The Quincunx."

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Alden

    A.S. Byatt’s “Possession” is a real good novel about modern English department academics researching a Victorian literary love affair like Browning and Barrett, written in alternating styles. (Stoppard lifted the gimmick for “Arcadia.”)

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Steve Sailer

    I've always liked the movie version of The French Lieutenant's Woman, the way it cuts back and forth between the times and two realities with the same two people.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    A.S. Byatt’s “Possession” is a real good novel about modern English department academics researching a Victorian literary love affair like Browning and Barrett, written in alternating styles. (Stoppard lifted the gimmick for “Arcadia.”)
     
    Vikram Seth wrote Golden Gate, a spoof of Marin County anti-nuke types, in Alexander Pushkin's idiosyncratic sonnet form. A fun read.

    Didn't Remington Steele, or a similar show, do an episode with the dialogue in iambic pentameter?
  65. I have to say that Julia as played by Suzanna Hamilton in Michael Radford’s version of 1984 was rather fetching to say the least.

    http://www.aveleyman.com/FilmCredit.aspx?FilmID=30

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @S

    I thought that Suzanna Hamilton was more fetching in "Out of Africa" (1985):

    https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/5743481/896full-out-of-africa-screenshot.jpg

    Now, of course, she is in her early sixties, so....

    Replies: @S

    , @Joe S.Walker
    @S

    She was terrible casting - too posh, grating on the nerves. That was a dud film altogether, the worst thing about it being the incredibly stupid design that put a telescreen the size of a 21st-century plasma TV in Winston's dingy little flat, with him crouching at one corner of it to write his diary. Really the 1956 film was better in some ways.

    Replies: @S

  66. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    A.S. Byatt's "Possession" is a real good novel about modern English department academics researching a Victorian literary love affair like Browning and Barrett, written in alternating styles. (Stoppard lifted the gimmick for "Arcadia.")

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve always liked the movie version of The French Lieutenant’s Woman, the way it cuts back and forth between the times and two realities with the same two people.

  67. @TWS
    @International Jew

    It would be hilarious if they cast can we get some muscle here? Woman as Julia.

    Replies: @International Jew

    Excellent casting idea. She’d go well with the overall theme of the wretchedness of poor Winston’s life: bad gin, bad tobacco, an underheated apartment — and a girlfriend like that.

    Just as long as I don’t have to see her titties on screen.

  68. @Rich
    Five people will willingly purchase the book, but college students from Sarah Lawrence to Vassar will be forced to buy it guaranteeing a nice little royalty check to the author.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Five people will willingly purchase the book, but college students from Sarah Lawrence to Vassar will be forced to buy it guaranteeing a nice little royalty check to the author.

    Every school and public library will buy a copy too.

    • Agree: Alden
  69. @Verymuchalive
    Orwell died in 1950. In most countries, copyright is Life + 70 years, many are less. So in nearly all English-speaking countries, Orwell is now out of copyright. So income coming to the Orwell Estate ( I believe his stepson Tom is still alive, living on a farm somewhere in Scotland ) will be very diminished.

    I am sure, as we speak, various novelists, journalists and others are writing prequels ( 1983 !), sequels and rewrites. So this looks like a final attempt by the Orwell Estate to maximise income. Very late in the day, though. I would have thought they would have been doing this 20 years ago, but who actually controls the estate seems to be a mystery. Do any readers know?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    For an example of this sort of thing done well, read Mr. Darcy’s Diary. It is Pride and Prejudice told from Mr. Darcy’s point of view.

    I have no doubt that Julia’s 1984 will be impossibly woke, and hugely successful too.

    • Agree: Verymuchalive
  70. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    A.S. Byatt's "Possession" is a real good novel about modern English department academics researching a Victorian literary love affair like Browning and Barrett, written in alternating styles. (Stoppard lifted the gimmick for "Arcadia.")

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar

    A.S. Byatt’s “Possession” is a real good novel about modern English department academics researching a Victorian literary love affair like Browning and Barrett, written in alternating styles. (Stoppard lifted the gimmick for “Arcadia.”)

    Vikram Seth wrote Golden Gate, a spoof of Marin County anti-nuke types, in Alexander Pushkin’s idiosyncratic sonnet form. A fun read.

    Didn’t Remington Steele, or a similar show, do an episode with the dialogue in iambic pentameter?

  71. @Charles Pewitt
    Was Joan Didion a feminist?

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1474061807258066947?s=20

    Joan Didion on the "political process" :

    JD: Everyone inside the process has benefited. And that’s a larger and larger group of people. It’s not just politicians. It’s all the people for whom politics is their business. It’s people you see all day long now on the talk shows. Because of cable, there is no hour of the day when you can’t watch somebody within the political class arguing with somebody else within the political class. These are people who don’t have a very deep commitment to the rest of the country; in fact, they have none. You saw that most markedly during the year that led up to the impeachment; essentially the political class turned against the people and excoriated them at every opportunity for not going along with the notion that Clinton had to go. The American people were said to be interested in nothing but the Dow Jones, which was saying they were selfish, they were stupid, they were irresponsible. You saw the idea of secular democracy itself put up for grabs that year, which was pretty startling.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2001/10/19/joan-didion-takes-on-the-political/

    David Byrne channeling Joan Didion:

    One and One does not equal Two. No sir! No sir!

    Silicon Gulch
    Silicon Prairie
    Silicon Hill
    Silicon Valley

    You better wake up

    It’s late
    It’s late
    It’s late

    Puzzling Evidence from the movie TRUE STORIES by David Byrne:

    https://youtu.be/TriaOVgwc1Y

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    …essentially the political class turned against the people and excoriated them at every opportunity for not going along with the notion that Clinton had to go.

    Huh? A lot of us hoi polloi wanted to see him go as well!

  72. @S
    @International Jew


    Julia is described as one of the most volubly enthusiastic participants at those “two minute hate” sessions.
     
    1984 is one of those rare rich works that is forever producing something new and prescient with every additional reading.

    For anyone who might need a refresher:

    'During the Two Minutes Hate she always excelled all others in shouting insults..’

    1984 – Part 2, Chapter 5

    ‘Times beyond number, at Party rallies and spontaneous demonstrations, she had shouted at the top of her voice for the execution of people whose names she had never heard and in whose supposed crimes she had not the faintest belief. When public trials were happening she had taken her place in the detachments from the Youth League who surrounded the courts from morning to night, chanting at intervals ‘Death to the traitors!’ During the Two Minutes Hate she always excelled all others in shouting insults’…’She had grown up since the Revolution and was too young to remember the ideological battles of the fifties and sixties. Such a thing as an independent political movement was outside her imagination..’
     
    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/12.html

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    1984 is one of those rare rich works that is forever producing something new and prescient with every additional reading.

    For one thing, it wasn’t a science fiction vision of what might happen in London, as most people take it, but a satire of what had already happened in Moscow.

    Women in Germany, e.g., Ilsa Koch, would take it to an extreme that shocked the men. She was first prosecuted by her own side. Are there Soviet cases like hers?

  73. @S
    I have to say that Julia as played by Suzanna Hamilton in Michael Radford's version of 1984 was rather fetching to say the least.

    http://www.aveleyman.com/Gallery/2017/H/7339-30-0.jpg

    http://www.aveleyman.com/FilmCredit.aspx?FilmID=30

    Replies: @D. K., @Joe S.Walker

    I thought that Suzanna Hamilton was more fetching in “Out of Africa” (1985):

    Now, of course, she is in her early sixties, so….

    • LOL: S
    • Replies: @S
    @D. K.

    Though I've not seen 'Out of Africa' I wager Hamilton acquitted herself well enough.

    I raise you Sean Young in 1982's Blade Runner.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-El49GMxTDfk/TeL0VS3Is7I/AAAAAAAAAT8/5jwOPpKSL7s/s1600/blade-runner-sean-young1.jpg

    Replies: @D. K.

  74. Millenia of repressing Womyn’s stories and now that they have the chance, they can only rewrite Homer and Shakespeare and Orwell from the ladies’ perspective.

    Lazy? Or are women just evolved to not need much artistic creativity?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    There’s always been plenty of women writers of very popular books. Including children’s stories magazine stories and articles and school texts. All it took was paper and pen and a table to write

    They wrote books had them published and the books became popular and are still in print.

    There’s plenty of best selling and popular women authors around. But they are authors and writers. Who happen to be women.

    Will Winston be Wanda or Winifred? Will Julia be James? Will all the villains who enforce the rules be women? The original was morbid and unpleasant.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

  75. Anyway, Anthony Burgess took on Nineteen Eighty-Four in 1978 with 1985.

    The first section discusses utopia and dystopia, and the concept of a cacotopia, which he thinks is a better word than dystopia, and seems closer to what ‘progressives’ have planned for us.

    The second imagines what might happen IRL in 1985: Burgess predicts the rise of the trade unions (wrong) and the rise of Islam and inundation of Muslims (right.)

  76. @Anon
    This sounds like that short-lived publishing fad of a decade or so ago of inserting mythical creatures into 19th century stories, "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Killer," "Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies," and so on. It was funny and clever for a while and to an extent.

    Also, a bit earlier there was the trend of modern, mostly British authors writing modern fiction set in the 19th century and written in a 19th century Dickensian style, fusty vocabulary and all, but with shorter paragraphs, thank God. Some of these pastiches were really impressive, such as "The Quincunx."

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Alden

    I read the Quincunxe. An endless series of unfortunate events. Gloom and doom all around. The authors who try to write in the style of Dickens Austen never get it right. The real appeal of Austen isn’t the family and love stories. It’s the incredible sarcasm and wicked wit.

    One of my favorites is Northanger Abbey. It starts at a resort. General Tilley hears a remark that heroine Katherine is a fabulously rich heiress. He fixes her up with his son. They like each other. Then the General finds she’s just middle class. Massive hysteria. That’s the plot. Better than the story is the wicked sarcasm about every character. Isabella gets engaged. Then finds out that fiancé ‘s income is less than she expected. The equivalent of 150K today rather than the 300K she expected.

  77. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Millenia of repressing Womyn's stories and now that they have the chance, they can only rewrite Homer and Shakespeare and Orwell from the ladies' perspective.

    Lazy? Or are women just evolved to not need much artistic creativity?

    Replies: @Alden

    There’s always been plenty of women writers of very popular books. Including children’s stories magazine stories and articles and school texts. All it took was paper and pen and a table to write

    They wrote books had them published and the books became popular and are still in print.

    There’s plenty of best selling and popular women authors around. But they are authors and writers. Who happen to be women.

    Will Winston be Wanda or Winifred? Will Julia be James? Will all the villains who enforce the rules be women? The original was morbid and unpleasant.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Alden

    Well of course. Probably 10% if my favorite writers are women. Are 50% of the greatest writers of all time female? Not close, if you’re honest. Now that the shackles are off ( or hobbles, if you prefer) we should be approaching that number ( the publishing business is certainly doing their part.) Are we?

    I’ll leave out painting and architecture, because women aren’t even 5% of the most skilled painters and architects. Music? Uh, no.

    My point is that maybe the power to create human beings ( for which men don’t even approach 10% of their creativity even with new counting rules) satisfies the creative urges and is impressive to the opposite sex all on its own.

  78. @Charles Pewitt
    Was Joan Didion a feminist?

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1474061807258066947?s=20

    Joan Didion on the "political process" :

    JD: Everyone inside the process has benefited. And that’s a larger and larger group of people. It’s not just politicians. It’s all the people for whom politics is their business. It’s people you see all day long now on the talk shows. Because of cable, there is no hour of the day when you can’t watch somebody within the political class arguing with somebody else within the political class. These are people who don’t have a very deep commitment to the rest of the country; in fact, they have none. You saw that most markedly during the year that led up to the impeachment; essentially the political class turned against the people and excoriated them at every opportunity for not going along with the notion that Clinton had to go. The American people were said to be interested in nothing but the Dow Jones, which was saying they were selfish, they were stupid, they were irresponsible. You saw the idea of secular democracy itself put up for grabs that year, which was pretty startling.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2001/10/19/joan-didion-takes-on-the-political/

    David Byrne channeling Joan Didion:

    One and One does not equal Two. No sir! No sir!

    Silicon Gulch
    Silicon Prairie
    Silicon Hill
    Silicon Valley

    You better wake up

    It’s late
    It’s late
    It’s late

    Puzzling Evidence from the movie TRUE STORIES by David Byrne:

    https://youtu.be/TriaOVgwc1Y

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Didion was a liberal. Nuff said.

  79. @Dr. X

    The estate of George Orwell has approved a feminist retelling of Nineteen Eighty-Four, which reimagines the story from the perspective of Winston Smith’s lover Julia.
     
    LOL, Clownworld is beyond parody:

    "Winston... disliked nearly all women, and especially the young and pretty ones. It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy."

    Replies: @fish, @Vinnyvette

    In other words the “Karen’s.”

  80. Isnt there anything sacred for this people?
    1984 is one of my favorite books, I own 4 different versions of it and have read them countless times.
    Cant these people just crawl to some corner and die?

    • Agree: Joe S.Walker
  81. @D. K.
    @S

    I thought that Suzanna Hamilton was more fetching in "Out of Africa" (1985):

    https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/5743481/896full-out-of-africa-screenshot.jpg

    Now, of course, she is in her early sixties, so....

    Replies: @S

    Though I’ve not seen ‘Out of Africa’ I wager Hamilton acquitted herself well enough.

    I raise you Sean Young in 1982’s Blade Runner.

    • Replies: @D. K.
    @S

    Yes, but I personally preferred the strictly human version, in "No Way Out" (1987):

    https://pics.filmaffinity.com/No_Way_Out-899453487-large.jpg

    Of course, as has been true since Ms. Hamilton's own birth, Sean Young remains eighty-days older than the now-sixty-one-year-old English actress! Sigh....

    Replies: @S

  82. @S
    @D. K.

    Though I've not seen 'Out of Africa' I wager Hamilton acquitted herself well enough.

    I raise you Sean Young in 1982's Blade Runner.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-El49GMxTDfk/TeL0VS3Is7I/AAAAAAAAAT8/5jwOPpKSL7s/s1600/blade-runner-sean-young1.jpg

    Replies: @D. K.

    Yes, but I personally preferred the strictly human version, in “No Way Out” (1987):

    Of course, as has been true since Ms. Hamilton’s own birth, Sean Young remains eighty-days older than the now-sixty-one-year-old English actress! Sigh….

    • Replies: @S
    @D. K.

    You obviously have good taste. I liked Young in that as well. 'No Way Out' was an excellent film.

    Didn't know that about the age thing between Hamilton and Young. Ahh, well, happens to everyone.

  83. @S
    I have to say that Julia as played by Suzanna Hamilton in Michael Radford's version of 1984 was rather fetching to say the least.

    http://www.aveleyman.com/Gallery/2017/H/7339-30-0.jpg

    http://www.aveleyman.com/FilmCredit.aspx?FilmID=30

    Replies: @D. K., @Joe S.Walker

    She was terrible casting – too posh, grating on the nerves. That was a dud film altogether, the worst thing about it being the incredibly stupid design that put a telescreen the size of a 21st-century plasma TV in Winston’s dingy little flat, with him crouching at one corner of it to write his diary. Really the 1956 film was better in some ways.

    • Disagree: S
    • Replies: @S
    @Joe S.Walker

    Everyone has their opinion, naturally, and no matter how 1984 was filmed, it's not going to be a 'pick me upper'. Having said that, I've got to really disagree with you.

    Radford's version of 1984 was an obvious labor of love. He went to extraordinary lengths to get it right, seemingly sparing no detail or expense to do so, and it really shows. Of course, due to time constraints, it's not possible to get every fine point of the book in, but Radford got in the film what was needed.

    Of all the filmed 1984 versions, I'd have to say Radford's was the best of them. A couple of intriguing facts about this particular film is it was literally filmed in an around London in the Spring of 1984, the same time and place of the book. A special film process was developed just for this version to give the film the rich color texture it has.

    May have to simply agree to disagree.

  84. @D. K.
    @S

    Yes, but I personally preferred the strictly human version, in "No Way Out" (1987):

    https://pics.filmaffinity.com/No_Way_Out-899453487-large.jpg

    Of course, as has been true since Ms. Hamilton's own birth, Sean Young remains eighty-days older than the now-sixty-one-year-old English actress! Sigh....

    Replies: @S

    You obviously have good taste. I liked Young in that as well. ‘No Way Out’ was an excellent film.

    Didn’t know that about the age thing between Hamilton and Young. Ahh, well, happens to everyone.

  85. @Joe S.Walker
    @S

    She was terrible casting - too posh, grating on the nerves. That was a dud film altogether, the worst thing about it being the incredibly stupid design that put a telescreen the size of a 21st-century plasma TV in Winston's dingy little flat, with him crouching at one corner of it to write his diary. Really the 1956 film was better in some ways.

    Replies: @S

    Everyone has their opinion, naturally, and no matter how 1984 was filmed, it’s not going to be a ‘pick me upper’. Having said that, I’ve got to really disagree with you.

    Radford’s version of 1984 was an obvious labor of love. He went to extraordinary lengths to get it right, seemingly sparing no detail or expense to do so, and it really shows. Of course, due to time constraints, it’s not possible to get every fine point of the book in, but Radford got in the film what was needed.

    Of all the filmed 1984 versions, I’d have to say Radford’s was the best of them. A couple of intriguing facts about this particular film is it was literally filmed in an around London in the Spring of 1984, the same time and place of the book. A special film process was developed just for this version to give the film the rich color texture it has.

    May have to simply agree to disagree.

  86. @Alden
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    There’s always been plenty of women writers of very popular books. Including children’s stories magazine stories and articles and school texts. All it took was paper and pen and a table to write

    They wrote books had them published and the books became popular and are still in print.

    There’s plenty of best selling and popular women authors around. But they are authors and writers. Who happen to be women.

    Will Winston be Wanda or Winifred? Will Julia be James? Will all the villains who enforce the rules be women? The original was morbid and unpleasant.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Well of course. Probably 10% if my favorite writers are women. Are 50% of the greatest writers of all time female? Not close, if you’re honest. Now that the shackles are off ( or hobbles, if you prefer) we should be approaching that number ( the publishing business is certainly doing their part.) Are we?

    I’ll leave out painting and architecture, because women aren’t even 5% of the most skilled painters and architects. Music? Uh, no.

    My point is that maybe the power to create human beings ( for which men don’t even approach 10% of their creativity even with new counting rules) satisfies the creative urges and is impressive to the opposite sex all on its own.

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