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  1. The Jan. 6th riots is now their Reichstag Fire or Doctor’s Plot.

    It doesn’t matter that they all know its trumped up beyond reason, they will use it as a mass justification for the purges.

  2. Wipe your hand across your mouth, and laugh;
    The worlds revolve like ancient women
    Gathering fuel in vacant lots.

    What I’d pay to see in 2022 before we completely surrender to micro-chipping our vax-passports is you, The Derb! and Cochrane do a reminiscing tour down memory lane of your greatest hits, mids and lows throughout your time astride the HBDospehere.

    Put it to video would be best. Don’t worry about the jowline.

    Steve: make 2022 the year you lighten up in preparation for death (I know I have!)

    Put out some video, lots of podcasts (don’t worry about how you look – I never look when I’m listening walking my dog, mowing my lawn, driving the car. I love listening!)

    I’d chuck in an extra \$100 to see the final 4th part have Ron Unz join you to reconnoiter the perimeter of our collective disappearance where you all celebrate your collective celebration as the last of the White men with a high IQ perspective who are allowed to post your thoughts free and unfettered without reflection on that fact on the internet.

    Set the opening tune to May Pang and John Lennon’s last track:

    I’d be all ears, enrapt.

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    , @Yancey Ward
  3. America’s Day of Infamy

    The surprise attack by unarmed protestors, organised by Vladimir Putin, resulted in the murder of hundreds of Congressmen and women. How can Americans forget.

  4. Israel has broadcast that panic/rant since the Shah was deposed in 1979, Alt. The cowards and pussies on Crapitol Hill, DC will be setting themselves up as heroes over 1.6 forever more. I fully expect a Federal holiday and inclusion in history books detailing their heroism as if it was the War of 1812. I mean that, these are sociopaths. And, the further out in terms of months and years, the invasion “forces” will be elevated from the clown show we ALL know it was to what they’re trying to twist it into, an armed insurrection. AOC, for merely one example, was in another building far from the capitol dome, yet claimed she hid under her desk to avoid being raped or killed. Republicans are cowards for not calling it what it was, a clown show, every single day. Mentioning it was a murderous display of cowardice committed by the ruling class occurs to no one on this shining hill. Emperor, no clothes.

    • Agree: Kylie, Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  5. @Pat Hannagan

    I’d sincerely, genuinely, love for you to go open slaughter on all the things that piss you off.

    jUST, 2022, mate you gotta do it.

    Time is running out.

    You know the best thing I ever saw, ( I saw alot of things in my time in Germany and my hatred of the English was compounded 1000 fold) was and is and remains to this day: Napoleon’s Tomb.

    Even Daniel Barenboim concedes it.

    All of Europe concedes it.

    It’s time the English and descended tended to their backyards for a change.

    Please recede and let us make a place for White children in our future?

    Can you do it?

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    , @vinteuil
  6. Franz says:

    Something spooky might turn up on the real Groudhog Day, February 2 this year.

    That’s 2-2-2022. Some of our secret clubs LOVE numerology.

  7. JimDandy says:

    It was a set-up, but there was genuine misbehavior. Whatever one thinks of David Brooks, this was accurate:

    “And I underestimated our intolerance of ideological diversity. Over the past five decades, the number of working-class and conservative voices in universities, the mainstream media, and other institutions of elite culture has shrunk to a sprinkling.

    When you tell a large chunk of the country that their voices are not worth hearing, they are going to react badly”

  8. J1234 says:

    Jan. 6 is not in the past; it is every day.

    Every day is Jan. 6 at the NYT…except when there are breaking Emmett Till updates.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  9. NYT Editorial Board:

    Whatever happens in Washington, in the months and years to come, Americans of all stripes who value their self-government must mobilize at every level

    We can maintain the Union and depolarize American society.

  10. whahae says:

    Shia have “Every Day is Ashura, Every Land is Karbala”, NYT reporters have “Every Day is January 6th, Every Land is Russia”

  11. @Pat Hannagan

    Everyone knows that people with White skin bring good things.

    I wish the HBDospehere had better arguments and flesh out White skin to ethnic type.

    I wish Edward Dutton quit hanging off the gift of colonialism (which also pertains to his own people) and started to produce something worth respect.

    I wish Dutton knew how inconsequential his haplotype was in the broader scheme of things

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  12. Can anyone imagine the extent of victim hood in our society?
    It’s astronomical.An entire society of perpetually perturbed puberty.
    It’s ingrained genetically and paying off rather well.
    A global phenomenon, affecting only homos,oops,… I mean sapiens.
    Can anyone imagine a real insurrection?
    Days long, with tanks, bombs,fire,snipers and dead politicians?
    An actual coup,with military tribunals,exiles and treason?
    How about a real “NEW NORMAL,” NOW?
    With reason and consequence?And sanity,decency,humanity…

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
  13. Alrenous says: • Website

    I like to think that stealing a random podium really did almost bring the Empire to its knees. They have a bad habit: overreacting. A nearly fatal habit, in fact.
    They’re afraid. And they should know whether they need to be afraid, shouldn’t they?

    If insulting Biden voters with “let’s go Brandon” is bad, how much worse what they did? They’re practically confessing.
    Trump really could have seized the whole shebang if he told his dudes to just stay in the building. It’s not that the Capitol has any genuine governing function, but they can hardly admit it serves no purpose, now can they? They would be unable to do anything (overt), and it’s not like their demonstrations can hold a candle to such activity.

    Imagine random Trump voters LARPing as congresscritters, and doing a better job by two orders of magnitude. Haha, oops! Saw a great quote recently: “Nobody likes a saint who live close enough to invite comparison.” Only your average politician can only aspire to the level of quality of your average Homer Simpson, so you don’t exactly have to be a saint…

  14. AndrewR says:
    @Altai

    I have mixed feelings about the Iranian government. I like that they’re opposed to the Satanic Zionist regimes of the US and Israel. But they treat their own people extremely poorly. I would like to see Iranians [redacted] the regime and install a real nationalist government instead of this Arab Islamic regime currently ruling. But realistically, a new regime would probably be a puppet of Israel. Very sad situation.

  15. AndrewR says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I think it’s still arguable whether a bloody civil war, likely involving millions of casualties after accounting for second-order effects of war, is inevitable. But my money is on a civil war happening in the next five to ten years. It might happen later than that, but it almost certainly will happen. The only possible alternative is that people realize that the (((elites))) are screwing us over, then we all unite against the elites. I would put that at a 0.000001% chance. That is still infinitely higher than the chance of a completely peaceful regime change. The people who rule us are genocidal beyond description.

    • Replies: @Thea
  16. NYT: Would You People STFU And Do What We Want?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  17. @Altai

    when you are ready to build a nuclear bomb within a certain time at some date in the 90s you will still be ready to do so sometimes later

    • Replies: @WJ
  18. Zoomed with an NPR-listening relative on New Years Day and got subjected to a zero-COVID rant–a real rant— about how the CDC has revised its quarantine period for Omicron because it “only cares about the economy” and businesses are open because owners are evil greedy robber-barons. Oh, and Texans are all stupid rednecks who are responsible for COVID in other states because they travel and “f-ck their rights!”.

    I don’t know how we get out of this mess. TDS has morphed into something much broader and more unhinged.

  19. ic1000 says:

    My favorite day is February 27, 1933 and my favorite place is Berlin.

    By the way, what were the results of the Select Committee’s investigation into the activities of the FBI, considering the political police’s possible role in the Whitmer kidnapping plot a few months earlier? Whew, never mind, trustworthy media has comforted me with “Fact check: Claims of FBI role in Jan. 6 Capitol attack are false”.

    “Democracy Dies In Darkness,” some wag once quipped.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @International Jew
  20. based on the video summaries of the event in NYT or say WaPo,
    Jan 6th was an everyday experience. Not much happened at all. compare Portland everyday

    • Agree: Forbes
  21. Mike Tre says:

    “But peel back a layer, and things are far from normal. Jan. 6 is not in the past; it is every day.”

    Peel back a layer on the NYT, and you have The Onion.

  22. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    That’s what you do with Communists like in Finland in 1919 and Spain in 1939. If you don’t they’ll take over.

  23. @R.G. Camara

    If only America had a patriotic party, it would have stopped this hoax cold, almost one year ago.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @Paul Mendez
  24. @Altai

    Or how on the rest of Unz the US is always one day away from attacking Russia or Iran or civil war, or the vaccines will start killing people real soon.

  25. Danindc says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Hundreds of congressmen jumped to their deaths from the Capitol Rotunda. It was either that or be impaled by an American flagpole. That was the terrible choice they had that day.

  26. Anonymous[127] • Disclaimer says:

    The Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. That’s the historical parallel they’re thinking of. The reason for the harsh sentences and general severity is that they want to avoid making the mistake the German state made in the 1920s, when it gave Hitler and co. only light sentences instead of locking them away for ever and ever.

  27. @R.G. Camara

    I guess that explains the following “story,” from yesterday:

    “Fake Story on 1/6 on abc’s good morning america, Peddled dnc Talking Points”
    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2022/01/fake-story-on-16-on-abcs-good-morning.html

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
  28. Altai says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Which means what? That the NYT and mainstream media won’t carry water for the justification of an attack on Iran? (Every US president is prodded to attack Iran, it only takes one to give in and John McCain promised to if elected) That Russia’s intervention in Syria to counter the US intervention didn’t cause a meltdown with the neocons causing them to endlessly aggress and prod Russia in a very dangerous way that already led to the overthrow of one Ukrainian government the annexation of Crimea by Russia and a years long civil war in Eastern Ukraine? We now have a situation where the most hardened liberal partisans in the US see Putin as Hitler, that’s 100% the MSM’s doing.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  29. Mark G. says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    I don’t know how we get out of this mess. TDS has morphed into something much broader and more unhinged.

    Charles Mackay, now remembered mostly for his book ‘Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds’ once said the following: “Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”

    The hysteria over the last two years about a disease that 99.7% of people under the age of 60 survive and where the people who die from it have an average age of 78 is an illustration of this going mad in herds. The CDC shortening the quarantine period for Covid and businesses now staying open that your NPR listening relative is complaining about is a sign that people are slowly recovering their senses.

  30. @Altai

    It means that every idiot needs events to “prove” their politics right because their politics are empty and just oddly distorted personal projections.

    So empty in fact that they repeat the same stupid prognostications, while in a state of self-imposed hysteria, day after day after day, forgetting even the previous one, when they were yet again wrong for the millionth time.

    Your comment is little more than extra hysteria in the same vein.

    War with Russia has supposedly been around the corner for decades. You’re consuming geopolitical fan fiction, but in the very slightly novel way of where you “dissent” by rooting for the anti-hero/villain. Pure entertainment, even if everyone involves thinks they are quite sincere. Telenovelas for people who have no idea how they feel.

    • Agree: Athenian Gentleman
    • LOL: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @SFG
  31. @Alrenous

    I remember thinking at the time, if only getting the levers of power were like a Harry Potter movie or The Lord of the Rings: if you steal the Speaker’s Gavel, it makes you head of the government. President Buffalo Shaman-Guy!

  32. CW Acumen says:

    Interesting how the editorial claims democracy is threatened by the legally elected representatives of the states determining how their elections are run. No, we need a 50/50 US Senate to rid itself of the filibuster, so they can tell the rest of the country how to vote. That’s democracy.

    This article is an example of why commies are so tough to beat. They are basically a crying fake baby in a carriage always rigged to explode.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  33. @ic1000

    I wish to take credit
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/alternative-timeline-nyt-mostly-peaceful-protesters-call-for-electoral-accountability-inside-capitol/
    for being the first iSteve commenter to call that thing our Reichstag fire.

    Now looking northeast from Berlin: have we already had our February Revolution? I think we have, to a considerable extent: the St. Petersburg police disappeared, our police have stood down in many places; peasants stormed aristocrats’ manors, our mobs have stormed the best stores in NY, Chicago, LA, SF; the Tsar was overthrown, our guarantees of free speech and blind justice mean nothing anymore.

    I am not looking forward to our October Revolution.

  34. WJ says:
    @Erik Sieven

    Iran watched the USA murder their former ally, Saddam Hussein while knowing he had no nuclear program. As an Iranian leader I am going full scale nuke work in 2003, if I have the capability. They didn’t do that apparently. They should be working feverishly to get a nuke as insurance against murder. Gaddafi also trusted the USA and gave up his chemical weapon. We all know what happened to him in 11 after he was dragged out of that building.

  35. What exactly is our “normal” political life? The FBI and intelligence agencies circulating bogus evidence to spy on and ultimately unseat the President? The NY Times publishing anonymous and other unconfirmed sources which are then used by Democrat partisans to justify Presidential impeachment?

    And what the Hell are they talking about with this “peeling back” layers? What layers?

    Translation: Too many people just aren’t listening to and believing our propaganda, and these people are noticing the chaos which results when our Regime’s policies are implemented.

  36. Gabe Ruth says:
    @JimDandy

    One day of nonsense directed at the culprits of our deteriorating situation: reacting badly

    Several months of mindless destruction directed at kulaks: stunning and brave

    Nah fuck that guy. I’m with David Cole on the need to rein in the more exuberant elements on our side, what they did was really dumb, but I’ll always be sympathetic.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @JimDandy
  37. @International Jew

    I’d call this the Summer of Mostly Peaceful Love our 1905 Revolution before our February Revolution. No one got what they wanted, and the ruling class loosened up just long enough to reassert control. Now even prog cities like Chiraq and San Fransisco are promoting policing and public order. This was more of a dress rehearsal than the real thing.

  38. @Altai

    What’s Farsi for “asymptotic”?

  39. @Chrisnonymous

    Mass formation psychosis? Perhaps TDS was a specific instance of MFP?

  40. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    And I see Shapiro’s New Year resolution is to double down on the self-serving lick-spittle grifting.

    Who’da thunk it?

    • Thanks: Muggles
    • Replies: @Jew
  41. @Chrisnonymous

    TDS has morphed into something much broader and more unhinged.

    Are any of the sentiments or assertions you cited more unhinged than much of the reverse hysteria that can be quite popular in these parts such as COVID denialism/ “PLANDEMIC”; anti-vax; “election was stolen”; or Q-Anon fantasies? (To say nothing of perennial Jew-obssessing.)

    In some cases , it is the populists and the dissidents who are more credible, compelling and in-touch with reality. On other matters, the elites, the establishment and the conventional thinking are. On some matters, a right-wing perspective is more compelling, more reflective of reality and more useful. On others, a left-wing perspective is. Same for socialist/command economy vs. capitalist/market economoy/ free market; libertarian vs. authoritarian; religious vs. secular, etc., etc. There is no single ideology, party or system that is wholly effective, in every case. No single perspective or philosophy that is adequate in explaining or dealing with every phenomenon or situation; or even in understanding reality.

    Is there any successful, prosperous country with a relatively high quality-of-life whose government, economy and policies are not characterized by some mix of the different categories listed above?

  42. @Altai

    Were they wrong? No. Thankfully, Iran didn’t build out its centrifuges (for isotope separation) as much as feared. Thankfully, “somebody” sabotaged them a lot. Thankfully.

    • LOL: Bill
    • Replies: @Spect3r
  43. @R.G. Camara

    Be fair. Wasn’t the Reichstag Fire a genuine leftist attack by van der Lubbe?

    Admittedly it wasn’t part of some vast conspiracy.

    • Agree: Verymuchalive
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  44. Gee wasn’t everyday being the Jan 6th the plan from the get go by our friendly overlords?

  45. But Activism! But the Struggle for Justice!

    What happened to that, NYT?

  46. The Left is simply trying to deny their opponents leadership. In the process they’ve sold themselves a dangerous lie – that Donald Trump is a cause and not just an effect. They work towards lessening the symptoms while absolutely refusing to even examine the underlying disease. Even if they could remove Trump completely, it would give them little more than temporary reprieve. But they’ve deluded themselves and their followers into believing that Cheeto Hitler is the actual problem and not just a symptom of the real issues they refuse to confront.

    • Replies: @Rob
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Lurker
  47. JR Ewing says:

    But peel back a layer, and things are far from normal.

    Gee, I wonder whose fault that might be? The bogeyman who is no longer president? What a powerful guy he must be.

  48. mc23 says:

    If only the January 6th rioters had refrained from scaring politicians. If only they realized that lasting political change would have been better affected through vandalizing Georgetown, looting Starbucks and boutique shops.

    Think of all the angst we could have avoided if they had stuck to peaceful but fiery demonstrations.

    Perhaps they were drawn to capital by AOC’s beauty.

    • Replies: @Goddard
  49. You know they’d love to make 1/6 a national holiday, but it’s too tight a fit between New Year’s and MLK Day. They’ll have to settle for 9/11 type observances — solemn name-readings and so on, but you still have to go to work.

  50. Jack D says:

    I think Jan 6 angers the Establishment because they thought their Elect a New People plan was foolproof. All we need to do is triumph at the ballot box (gather a bunch of mail in ballots) and we can stick it to white people and rule America forever. It’s all perfectly Constitutional and legal and there’s nothing white people can do about it while we take over their institutions and dismantle their monuments and do a victory dance on their graves!

    Jan 6 showed them that their plan was flawed – that their power was not really unlimited and that at some point there would be push back no matter how “legal” their plan was.

  51. One more thing we’ve heard for nearly 50 years now — Roe v Wade is desperately close to being overturned it’s hanging on by a fingernail women’s reproductive rights are threatened Christian right evil literal Hitler back alley my body clothes hangers my choice so please give now to (insert name of leftist/feminist D candidate)

  52. Arclight says:

    The establishment retains its grip by intimating that we as a nation are always on the brink of a crisis an only they are capable of managing it responsibly. It’s nonstop manipulation and gaslighting, but the intensity and duration of it over the last 2 years has more and more people asking who is actually behind the curtain. We have to endure yet more BS for the scales to fall from enough eyes.

    • Agree: Spect3r
  53. @Triteleia Laxa

    “or the vaccines will start killing people real soon”

    It took quite a while after the NHS purchase of blood clotting factor agents from the US before UK haemophiliacs started dying of AIDS.

  54. Tom F. says:

    Still fascinated that a year later, nobody has found the ‘pipe bomber’ who planted the actual reasons for evacuating the Capitol (not the ‘insurrection’) and the under-oath admission by the Chief of the Capitol Police that no weapons were recovered from attendees. No explanation for why four dead attendees bodies were cremated. No explanation how some attendees found the 14 panes of unreinforced glass next to the doors which must be opened from inside, eight months after the entire building’s glass was replaced with bombproof windoes. And, apparently no interest in identifying these ‘leaders’ inviting attendees to “Move Forward!”

    • Thanks: Muggles, Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Dube
  55. Jack D says:

    OT (but not completely):

    America’s oldest folk parade goes woke: Revelers at Philly’s annual Mummers Parade today had to clear their costumes with ‘human relations commission’ to avoid repeat of last year’s blackface and Caitlyn Jenner outfits

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10362375/Phillys-Mummers-Parade-runs-costumes-human-relations-commission-stamp-racist-outfits.html

    For those not familiar, Mummers are mostly white working class men.

    99% of them wear costumes related to some harmless topic like Star Wars movies, but 99% is not good enough. One group last year wore costumes in the colors of the Flyers hockey team (orange and black) but maybe two guys (out of the many thousands that march in the parade) didn’t get the memo and painted their faces all black instead of half orange and half black. ZOMG! Blackface! The response was “let’s cancel the whole parade!” (120 years ago in order to bring the mob revelry under control, the parade came under city sponsorship with judging and prizes and so on.) This year the groups are going to be REAL careful and stick to outer space so as not to insult any humans and lose their sponsorships.

    As we can see from what is going on in Hong Kong, the totalitarian impulses is that 99% dissent free is Not Good Enough. You have to hunt down the stragglers so that you can declare your domain 100% free of the virus of hate.

    • Thanks: Calvin Hobbes
    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  56. Buroaker says:

    “State Capture”

    S Africa high courts ponder

  57. @International Jew

    Okay, but don’t these elites at the NYT know that they’re the ancien regime? They’re the nobility, the aristocrats, the landowners who will be dispossessed of their wealth. The only thing that keeps the peasants from attacking them is the vast middle class who aspire to peace and prosperity.

    Why they want to destroy that barrier has never made sense to me. Governing a happy middle class vs. ruling an unruly peasantry seems an easy choice.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  58. @Jack D

    What an Exceptional! analogy.

    As we can see from what is going on in Hong Kong,

    Your Uncle Sam loves you, too.

  59. Dmon says:

    As we commemorate the Reichstag Fire, let us not forget the Beer Hall Putsch.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/28/brett-kavanaugh-hearing-protesters-christine-blasey-ford/1453524002/

    The article abounds with enough irony to refill the Hull Rust Mine, but my vote for the best part :
    “We will not be bullied,” Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., told the demonstrators…

    My understanding is that the original script for the event called for the bodies of half a dozen rape victims to be found in the Court building, but they had to be hastily removed. The Democratic congressmen and senators convulsing about exploitation of women had tasked their unpaid female interns with creating the tableau for the propaganda coup, and the 20-something volunteers, working on information gleaned from the internet, had dressed the bodies in Polish Army uniforms.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  60. ic1000 says:
    @International Jew

    IJ, your comment lands on the lowly fourth page of Ron’s comment-search-results for “Reichstag Fire”. But on the bright side, it’s the first with the date 1/22/21. So, yes, yours is the first non-frontlashing use of the term. Congratulations! and Happy New Year.

    • Replies: @ic1000
  61. SFG says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Thing about war with Russia is, if it went bad, it could go REALLY bad.

    • Agree: SafeNow
  62. They are already trying and will continue trying so, so, so hard to make this into some kind of yearly 9/11 esque remembrance of “that dark time in our history” etc. I’m already getting a migraine from the endless “6/1!!!!11” posts that will be spammed on social media, news coverage, op-eds, articles etc etc etc. The liberal sheep will of course eat it up.

    What makes it particularly Orwellian is that the only person actually shot in cold blood on that day was a Trump supporter, and there’s even video of it online.

  63. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Nicholas Stix

    If only America had a patriotic party, it would have stopped this hoax cold, almost one year ago.

    Excellent observation and unfortunately very true. If the Republican party actually represented the interests of the historic American nation this farce would have been stopped immediately, and the FBI provocateurs and its leadership investigated and likely imprisoned.

    Your insight reflects the total lack of representation our government provides to white Americans.

    No taxation without representation!!

    Or better: Screw you, traitorous and unprincipled political whores!

  64. Wilkey says:

    Murder rates are still setting records in most Democratic-run cities, blacks are still randomly attacking old Asian women, and flash mob looting sprees are all the rage, but let’s get back to talking about an “insurrection” that caused less damage than the average frat party.

    Prediction for 2022: Religion of Peace ™ terrorism will make a comeback in a big way. The West is starting to sound weak again, and the Islamists sure do get their dander up when the West sounds weak. Plus we have a whole new wave of Religion of Peace ™ members in the West, thanks to the invasion of Afghanistan refugees. If we’d had as many Afghans on our side during the war as we now have refugees we might have actually won the war.

    Prediction Two: BoJo the Clown will no longer be UK prime minister by the end of the year.

    Prediction Three: Republicans will win back control of House & Senate, but not nearly by the margin they should win by. Their first “conservative” action (which will technically be in 2023) will be to cut taxes for rich people. It will also be their last conservative action. Democrats, the Party of the Working Man ™, will go along with it in exchange for an increase in the SALT deduction and forgiveness for student loans, which also help the rich. Money printer will go brrrrrrr (I believe that’s the term in use).

    Secure the borders? “Oh no, good sir. We’ve boosted our share of the Latino vote from 25% to 32%. Let even more of them in and maybe we can get that share all the way up to 35%!”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Anonymous
  65. @Jack D

    Jan 6 is the only time the Right showed any “street” power. The Left uses street power all the time – demonstrations, street takeovers, vandalism, heckling, riots, arson. Black crime is the ultimate street power and the only real power blacks have. The political elites use street power to their advantage. Street violence by the Left played a key role in stealing the 2020 election.
    The elites fear street power because they know how important it is.
    At one time whites knew how to fight it out on the street if they had to, but no more. Jan 6 was a farce, but to the Elites quivering in their penthouse apartments it looked like the KKK of old – or perhaps it reminded them of union strikes?

    • Agree: The Ringmaster
    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Charlotte
  66. Wilkey says:

    Prediction Four: China will seize control of Taiwan, and Russia will steal part of Ukraine. There will be much sound and fury, but not a damn thing will be done. Free trade is important, doncha know?

    Prediction Five: A major outbreak of violence against whites in South Africa will occur. The West will allow in some refugees, but most of them will end up being black. The Biden Admin will come back with the excuse that there was no way they could easily distinguish between persecutors and persecuted. The press will have an almost complete blackout of the violence, and any video posted on Twitter and Facebook will be blocked.

    Prediction Six: Stephen Breyer will retire from the Supreme Court at the end of the current session, to ensure he’s replaced by a Democrat-controlled Senate.

    Prediction Seven: I will win the lottery, buy CNN for \$1,000, and give Steve a contract for his own show in prime time. His ratings will soar past Tucker Carlson and Greg Gutfeld and CNN will be back on top. Tiny Duck will play Michael Kinsley to Steve’s Pat Buchanan.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
  67. tanabear says:

    “Our political life seems more or less normal these days,”

    Huh? This is like a Frenchman saying in 1793 that our politics seems more or less normal these days.

    Nevertheless, January 6th was a Fed operation. “Insurrection” simply released “Collusion” as a pre-text for the criminal Biden regime to go after Trump supporters.

    https://www.revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @ic1000
  68. @Jack D

    If 1/2 the crowd had showed up armed they could have taken over DC. Congress critters were scared by the turn out, and the thought of the mob placing their heads on pikes. They saw how weak they really were had the protesters decided they were going in for blood.

  69. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alrenous

    They’re afraid.

    100% true story:

    I carry little post-it notes in my wallet that say, “Biden didn’t win – We all know.”

    Last week, I went to the race track. In the parking lot was a car covered in Biden bumper stickers, so I put a post-it on the driver side door.

    A few hours later, I was approached by an armed cop and the head of track security. They had my note, and proceeded to grimly threaten me with what would happen if they ever caught me doing it again.

    Think about the chain of events. The car’s owner was so butt-hurt he went back into the track and gave it to security. Security chief was so triggered he reviewed the security cameras to identify me. Then, he was so afraid of a fat senior citizen that he called for backup before searching the facility until they found me.

    Yes, they’re afraid.

    • Thanks: Muggles, bomag, Old Prude, Farenheit
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @Jack D
  70. @Wilkey

    China should take Taiwan. It is historically part of China and is only separate because of foreign intervention in Chinese affairs. That part of the world is none of our business.
    Russia should take Ukraine. Ukraine is historically part of Russia and is now being used as a base by foreigners to threaten Russia. But Russia might not invade because Ukraine is a basket case and would be a net burden. At any rate, that part of the world is none of our business.
    We owe something to white South Africans since our meddling caused them to lose their country. But we will never accept white South African refugees because they are white.

  71. @WJ

    Former ally, you say? So the 1980-1988 brouhaha was what, a solidarity summit? Or a Mostly Peaceful Exchange of Ideas?
    Persians and Arabs haven’t been friends since about the time the Persians and Arabs met.
    Toppling Saddam was a gift to the Ayatollahs.

    • Replies: @MM
  72. @Nicholas Stix

    I was elated on January 6, 2021. Finally! Giving the leftists a taste of their own civil disobedience medicine!

    A year later, dozens and dozens of political prisoners still languish in DC jail without bail, Ashley Babbit is forgotten, and so-called conservative politicians/pundits/donors decry the “assault” on “our democracy.”

    Where are our lawyers springing our people from jail? Where are our leaders, organizing protests in front of the DC jail? Where are the rich donors supporting the families of the jailed? Why isn’t “Remember Ashley Babbit” on flags, signs, bumper stickers, hats, tee-shirts and graffiti?

    We suck.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  73. Abe says:

    Remember how the music of Leonard Cohen became a sort of lifeboat/safety blanket to all the “I’m With Her” goobers the instant it became clear Trump would become the next President? Katherine McKinnon’s uber-solemn rendition of HALLELUJAH on SNL to kick off The Resistance, etc.?

    Not objectively the worst or most low-down dirty thing The Establishment has done in the last 4 years, but Brian Williams repurposing of the pitch black anti-war irony of Cohen’s “I am guided by the beauty of our weapons” lyric (FIRST WE TAKE MANHATTAN) to sell Establishment forever war imperialism with totally shameless, sh!t-eating, self-satisfaction is one of the most slimy:

  74. @Nicholas Stix

    During the 2021 Virginia Attorney General race, Democrat Mark Herring ran an ad that claimed 5 Capitol Police were murdered on January 6th. As far as I know, this lie was never challenged.

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix, Tom F.
    • Replies: @Tom F.
  75. @Redneck farmer

    The most fundamental moral principle:

    The right of the host to reject the parasite.

    That’s what the NYT editorial board is scared of.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
  76. Teachers unions will assert that remote babysitting (the cure for school bullying and germ spreading) must be included (i.e. made normal) in their new contracts. As in-person is here to stay, districts will ramp-up hiring of “credentialed” (AA degree?) classroom aides (ushers) and non-teaching A/V technicians, and push easy-sell bonds for technology upgrades.

  77. ic1000 says:
    @ic1000

    Edit:
    > But on the bright side, your comment was the first with the date 1/22/21 1/6/21.

    Beer Hall Putsch is good, too. Better, in terms of understanding the Establishment’s perspective. No matter how much power the elites accumulate, it never feels like enough. The deplorables could depose them the moment they let their guard down.

  78. @Wilkey

    Pretty good predictions Wilkey, though i’m a bit skeptical of your #7.

    Your #3:

    Prediction Three: Republicans will win back control of House & Senate, but not nearly by the margin they should win by. Their first “conservative” action (which will technically be in 2023) will be to cut taxes for rich people. It will also be their last conservative action…

    Secure the borders? “Oh no, good sir. We’ve boosted our share of the Latino vote from 25% to 32%. Let even more of them in and maybe we can get that share all the way up to 35%!”

    is spot on.

    Though the reality is with Biden as pres, Congress can not secure the border. Border security is something that requires an executive who actually wants to do it. Or requires a system with passive features–i.e. a Wall–with very specific laws that make it difficult for a President to wreck enforcement.

    This is the great tragedy of Trump. Lots of really pleasant warm air on immigration, and a breakthrough win for Trump with Republican control of Congress… then your #3 rolls out with “Art of the Deal” boy Trump getting rolled by the likes of the odious–scrape it off my shoe–Paul Ryan.**

    2017 could have been–should have been–the moment that Republicans fixed–i.e. ended–mass immigration and ensured the American people–and in the process themselves!–a future.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
  79. JimDandy says:
    @Gabe Ruth

    Oh, I’m sympathetic, trust me. I almost went to the march that day. And if I had simply gone to DC that day, just being there could have destroyed my life. Because, you know, what happened was worse than 9-11. But don’t get confused, when a bunch of animals attacked the White House in honor of Saint Floyd and sent dozens of Secret Service to the hospital, THAT was the voice of the dispossessed being heard. And reports that Trump and his wife and child were whisked down into a bunker for safety were hilarious in the eyes of Brooks’ bobos. Trump was the villain in that narrative. The attacking animals were infallible.

    As Protests and Violence Spill Over, Trump Shrinks Back
    –New York Times

    • Agree: Paul Mendez, vinteuil
  80. dearieme says:
    @Mark G.

    The CDC shortening the quarantine period for Covid … is a sign that people are slowly recovering their senses

    Or a sign that the Dems are changing their strategy for the 2022 elections.

  81. @SFG

    Thing about war with Russia is, if it went bad, it could go REALLY bad.

    Only if they sink to the moral depths of Harry S Truman. Or if Truman’s party is in power. They have a record of this.

    The true evil of the Daisy ad was its implication that parties other than the one that produced it would employ them in the same unprincipled, un-Christian way.

  82. Curle says:
    @JimDandy

    “ Over the past five decades, the number of working-class and conservative voices in universities, the mainstream media, and other institutions of elite culture has shrunk to a sprinkling.”

    “[H]as shrunk”. I’m getting tired of the passive voice.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  83. @Athenian Gentleman

    Oh, my, I remember so many statements like this from the “smart” kids in high school honor classes. “it’s complicated,” “it’s a mix,” “it’s never all or nothing.” Recognizing complexity is an important step up from the childish projection of our own wishes and biases.

    And then? At some point you don’t get the luxury of pronouncing both sides as a mix of right and wrong, good and evil. Even though Solzhenitsyn said the line between good and evil runs through the middle of every human heart, he picked a side.

    If you don’t pick, at some point you’ll stop having a choice.

    • Thanks: Athenian Gentleman
  84. @Paul Mendez

    A year later, dozens and dozens of political prisoners still languish in DC jail without bail…

    While Darrell Brooks got bail twice. Why are their alleged crimes worse than his?

    This is not a rhetorical question, but one that should be posed to federal authorities at every opportunity. In front of cameras.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
  85. @Curle

    I’m getting tired of the passive voice

    Don’t you mean, the passive voice is tiring you?

  86. @Chrisnonymous

    Thanks for listening so I don’t have to.

  87. I am Lughnasadh.

    Groundhog Day is also known as Candlemas, or the Presentation of Jesus at the Temple. People come to church to get their candles blessed for the year.

    There are various animal-related traditions around Europe similar to our own Punxsutawney Phil.

    The date is the rough midpoint of the astronomical winter in the Northern Hemisphere. So of course the Celts had a festival for it, Imbolc. (Not to be confused with Ingsoc.) The other three seasonal midpoints are Beltane, Samhain, and Lughnasadh.

    I am Lughnasadh.

  88. vinteuil says:
    @Jack D

    I think Jan 6 angers the Establishment because they thought their Elect a New People plan was foolproof. All we need to do is triumph at the ballot box (gather a bunch of mail in ballots) and we can stick it to white people and rule America forever. It’s all perfectly Constitutional and legal and there’s nothing white people can do about it while we take over their institutions and dismantle their monuments and do a victory dance on their graves!

    Jan 6 showed them that their plan was flawed – that their power was not really unlimited and that at some point there would be push back no matter how “legal” their plan was.

    Jeezus – could you miss the point more completely?

    What the Establishment claims happened on Jan 6 didn’t “anger” them – it fulfilled all of their deepest desires. It forestalled the scheduled presentation before congress of the overwhelming evidence of electoral fraud, and provided all the fuel they needed for their media narrative of dangerous White Supremacists seeking to overthrow Our Democracy.

    Jan 6 was not “push back” by the right. It was set up & stage managed by the left.

    • Agree: ziggurat
    • Disagree: Jack D
  89. @SFG

    And?

    Does Unz geopolitical fan fiction make what is already a 0% chance any leas like?

    The war in Afghanistan is where our conflicts are at. The military may not be pro-war but they are pro going to war. The relative paucity of deaths is more akin to those from people who love extreme sports, and they got paid for it. Everyone else liked printing money and spending it. The Afghans liked receiving it and it made a change from their millenia long civil wars again the villages next door.

    Trump was the leader for our era because he was best taken seriously but not literally. Just as 99% of other political actors should.

    Russia is not happening and, if it did, peace would be found after the first 1000 civilian casualties on both sides. Developed countries can only fight useless gay Taliban fot fun, like hunting, or make faith accompli, like Russia in Crimea. Everything else is totally pointless and people only act completely insane. That explains everything. Good night

  90. @JimDandy

    If he wrote that about the slightly-out-hand protest last Jan 6th, then David Brooks has got it wrong. That was just in fun. They have not begun to react badly yet.

    • Agree: Paul Mendez
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    , @PhysicistDave
  91. Forbes says:
    @Redman

    Starting? What are we up to? 20,000 VAERS deaths? 700,000 VAERS reports of all injuries/deaths/adverse events?

    What am I missing?

    • Replies: @HA
  92. vinteuil says:
    @rebel yell

    Jan 6 is the only time the Right showed any “street” power.

    Fed! Fed! Fed!

    Street violence by the Left played a key role in stealing the 2020 election.

    You mean like when the nice white ladies in Atlanta ran the fake Biden ballots through the machines over & over again?

    The elites fear street power because they know how important it is.

    Stupid propaganda just doesn’t get any stupider than this.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
  93. @vinteuil

    Forget about the ballots in Atlanta for now. In 2020 the Democrats sponsored riots and massive civil disruptions for 6 months to de-stabilize the country leading up to the election. The mainstream media was united in opposition to the elected President – half the population had no voice or representation in the important public forums. When elites use street violence and one-sided public debates (which is the definition of propaganda) to win an election, that is a stolen election. At least it is a stolen election if you have principled standards for how an election should proceed.
    As far as whatever idea you are pitching that Jan 6 was a deep state plot – well, whatever.

    • Agree: Abe, Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  94. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says:

    David Brooks is now saying the GOP is trying to restrict voting rights ahead of 2024.

    They are going to ballot harvest the recently deceased and several former apartment tenants who have moved for paper ballot votes again. They will fight updating the rolls. We will be cheated in 2022 and 2024. Shamelessly. That’s why they are trying to purge the military of patriotic whites. Brooks is right behind Max Boot.

  95. Muggles says:
    @Mike Tre

    Peel back a layer on the NYT, and you have The Onion.

    False! Sometimes things in The Onion are true!

  96. Mike Tre says:

    OT – HBD in a nutshell? Two little girls not too happy with their Christmas gifts:

    https://leakedreality.com/video/30696/another-unwanted-christmas-present’

    • LOL: Old Prude
  97. Dube says:
    @Tom F.

    Thanks for that good video with its sense of the provocateurs among the crowd. Some here will also recall the video showing 5 white vans, with police escort, parking in a line and disgorging non-uniformed ‘participants.’

  98. @Another Canadian

    mfp is just another freudian bs concept. great at explaining events that already happened bad at predicting things. you might as well be talking about “white fragility”

  99. Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:

    Former black resident of Stockton CA blames aimless unchecked Diversity For its Own Sake as the prime impetus for it’s dark descent into unabashed Third World Hellholism:

  100. Wilkey says:
    @AnotherDad

    Though the reality is with Biden as pres, Congress can not secure the border. Border security is something that requires an executive who actually wants to do it.

    Not entirely true. There’s quite a bit that Congress can do if it maximizes control of the purse strings to full effect.

  101. Charlotte says:
    @rebel yell

    As I see, the use of “street”power by the populist right is constrained by the fact that most populist conservatives are firmly against mayhem in the streets, burning and looting, etc. Antifa scum don’t care if they destroy neighborhoods, and elite leftists don’t care either so long as it’s not their own neighborhoods getting the “mostly peaceful protest” treatment. The sensibilities and interests of the two sides are worlds apart.

    Furthermore, antifa/BLM violence tends to occur in places where it’s tacitly approved by TPTB. If a bunch of people in MAGA hats showed up, rioted and set fires in Nancy Pelosi’s neighborhood, it’s a safe bet there would be investigations and prosecutions galore-local and federal. It would be invoked over and over as proof the nation needs more gun control, more FBI surveillance, etc.

    • Thanks: Hibernian
  102. Thea says:
    @AndrewR

    I think it’s still arguable whether a bloody civil war, likely involving millions of casualties after accounting for second-order effects of war, is inevitable.

    This would taking stepping away from their screens. I don’t see our countrymen(myself included) doing that.

  103. Wilkey says:
    @rebel yell

    China should take Taiwan. It is historically part of China and is only separate because of foreign intervention in Chinese affairs.

    By that argument the UK should take Canada, Australia, and the United States back. After all, the USA is only separate from the UK due to French intervention in UK affairs. That damn Marquis de Lafayette.

    • Agree: Paul Mendez
    • LOL: Hibernian
  104. @Wilkey

    I think that we should have anschluss with Canada. Britain’s material support for the Confederacy was a clear caucus belli, and until 1867, Canada was a British colony. They owe us.

  105. Mark G. says:
    @Athenian Gentleman

    Is there any successful, prosperous country with a relatively high quality-of-life whose government, economy and policies are not characterized by some mix of the different categories listed above?

    The Democrats are not doing well in the polls because they have adopted the policies of the extremists in their party, policies that don’t work. The party has moved too far to the left for even James Carville and Hillary Clinton. If the Republicans regain power, they need to avoid adopting the opposite extreme.

    In the case of vaccines, for example, one extreme might be all vaccines are good and the opposite extreme might be all vaccines are bad. A moderate position might be that some vaccines are good and some are bad or that a particular vaccine might be good for people in high risk categories like the elderly but not needed for healthy young people. You don’t have to pick one of the extremist positions. You can pick the middle position.

    In the case of countries with a high quality of life like the U.S. or Sweden, rather than looking at their current governments it would probably be better to go back in history and study the period when they had their greatest economic growth. Normally, a poor country adopts free market capitalism, becomes wealthy, and then uses that wealth to fund socialist welfare policies. You don’t really see poor countries adopting a socialist welfare state and then becoming rich. Countries that try it, like Russia and China in the middle of the twentieth century, fail. At the same time, countries in their rapid growth period are not run by libertarian anarchists. Anarchy creates something like Somalia. You do need some government.

    • Thanks: Athenian Gentleman
  106. @vinteuil

    It was set up & stage managed by the left.

    I wouldn’t exactly call the FBI the left, but with your main point, I agree. The left is lovin’ this. Every minute of it.

    And who the hell is Ray Epps?

  107. Jew says:
    @Bill Jones

    Jewish Rabbi talks about the Ideology of Ben Shapiro

    Starts @ ~1:46

    • Replies: @Jack D
  108. Jack D says:
    @Wilkey

    It is historically part of China.

    Depends when.

    Historically, it was Polynesian. When the Chinese first took it in 1662, it was a Dutch colony.

    The current Communist regime has never ruled Taiwan.

    Arguably the Dutch have a better claim than the Reds.

    • Thanks: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Peter Lund
    , @Joe Stalin
  109. dearieme says:
    @rebel yell

    It is historically part of China

    No Chinese lived there until some colonised it at the invitation of the Dutch. Your view of history is rather short.

  110. @Another Canadian

  111. clyde says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    I don’t know how we get out of this mess. TDS has morphed into something much broader and more unhinged.

    Trump derangement syndrome has been overtaken by Covidxyz derangement syndrome. The pro-vaxxxx faction in state and Federal governments has become fanatical about forcing the no-vaxxxxers to get their spike protein generator jabs, or be out of a job. No jab=No Job.
    It’s not just the Democrats in the US. In Amsterdam, New Year’s Day, the police waded in to break up a peaceful anti lockdown demonstration. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10362603/Dutch-lockdown-protesters-MAULED-police-dogs-hit-batons.html

  112. @CW Acumen

    • Thanks: The Anti-Gnostic
  113. @Danindc

    I believe the guy with the Bison Horns ( not Bull Horns as the MSM describes ) gored several Congresscritters to death. I’m sure Buffalo Bill would have been proud !

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  114. @Paperback Writer

    The FBI is not “The” Left. But it is a crucial part of it.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  115. @Jack D

    Yep. So do the Portuguese and the Japanese. Taiwan has a pretty good claim to West Taiwan, though.

  116. @Pat Hannagan

    H-A-double-N-A-G-A-N spells ”Hannagan”
    Proud of all the YouTube linkings from me!
    Who cares if the music’s good or crummy?

    Who is the man who will link to what we think?
    Hannagan, That’s Me!
    Who’ll never shrink from the doublethink of stink?
    Hannagan, That’s Me!

    For I’m just as proud of my posts you see,
    As an Emperor, Czar or a King, could be.
    Who at iSteve has a peeve for the naïve?
    Hannagan, That’s Me!

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
  117. @Triteleia Laxa

    The problem isn’t the vaccines. It’s a brand new virus, it will require brand new treatments or methods of prevention that can’t be tested long-term for obvious reasons. People want it now. It turns out these vaccines are killing some people. Perhaps more will die in the future. Heart damage does not necessarily produce instant death. Perhaps a significant % of those vaccinated will drop dead 10-20 years before they would’ve otherwise in a few decades. They do tell you the risk when you’re getting it. That’s not the problem.

    The problem is governments coercing their population into getting it. Being unable to partake in social activities (USA/Canada/Australia), “No jab no job” (Australia/Canada/NYC), flying restrictions (Canada), inability to get employment insurance compensation if fired from your job due to refusal to be vaccinated (Canada), etc. Measure like that. That alone, regardless of any side effects, should keep you up at night. If the barrier of your own skin as an adult making your own decisions is not the limit of where government power ends then what is?

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    , @HA
  118. @AnotherDad

    That’s also why science (truth-seeking and
    -speaking) cannot be tolerated.

  119. @Jack D

    The current Communist regime has never ruled Taiwan.

    Late in October 1949, Mao Zedong was on the verge of wiping out his enemy. For months, his Communist troops had been racking up victories against Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, China’s leader since the 1920s, including the capture of Beijing, Nanjing, and Shanghai. Chiang’s Nationalist forces retained firm control of only two pro­vinces—Sichuan in the southwest and Fujian on the southeast coast—and were focused chiefly on the island of Taiwan, which Chiang was fortifying as his last defense. “As long as we have Taiwan,” Chiang Kai-shek observed to an aide, “the Communists can never win.”

    Mao’s People’s Liberation Army made its next target Kinmen Island, which lies in the South China Sea about eight miles off China’s southeastern coast, directly on the route to Taiwan. The Communists estimated there were 12,000 Nationalist troops at Kinmen, but these were the tattered remnants of units that had survived disastrous defeats in central China, along with green recruits from villages in Sichaun and Taiwan—a trifle for Mao’s 13,000 battle-hardened veterans.

    Around midnight on October 24, some 9,000 PLA troops began to cram into the wooden junks that would carry them across the sea to what they fully expected to be an easy and glorious triumph. But a battle that was to have marked the beginning of the end for Chiang instead turned into disaster for the Communists. Overconfidence, poor planning, and horrible weather were about to sabotage what Mao had hoped would be his crowning moment.

    https://www.historynet.com/gallery-the-battle-that-saved-taiwan.htm

    「古寧頭大戰」 “The Battle of Guningtou” (original English title: “The Battle of Kuningtou”) is an epic war movie produced by the Central Movie Corporation on Taiwan, Republic of China (R.O.C.), dramatizing the Battle for Kinmen Island (October 25-27, 1949) in the closing stages of the Chinese Civil War. Produced with the full support of the R.O.C. armed services, this epic premiered in Taiwan in the summer of 1980, a year after the United States broke off diplomatic relations with the R.O.C . in favor of the Peoples Republic of China on the mainland.

    The Nationalist victory over the Communist invasion of Kinmen island in this battle, which lay only a few miles off the Chinese mainland, was a major morale boost for the Nationalist regime and Army, and is often regarded as “The Battle That Saved Taiwan” from Communist domination.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Jack D
  120. @Mark G.

    I agree. And bonus points for (presumably) having read a book. And a worthwhile one at that. We should all do more of that.

  121. @Wilkey

    The USA should conquer Canada. Let us finish the job that was started in 1812.

  122. S says:
    @Altai

    The United States is at war with Iran. The United States has always been at war with Iran.

    • Replies: @Bill
  123. @rebel yell

    China should take Taiwan. It is historically part of China…

    Russia should take Ukraine. Ukraine is historically part of Russia…

    Mexico should take Arizona. It is historically part of Mexico. Spain should take Mexico. It is historically part of Spain. England should take Ireland. It is historically part of England. Sweden and Russia should draw straws to see who should take Finland. It is historically part of Sweden and Russia. Sweden and Denmark should do the same for Norway.

    Everyone should take Poland.

    We owe something to white South Africans since our meddling caused them to lose their country.

    Our “meddling” didn’t cause the Bantus to drift into what could have been their lilywhite white country over the centuries.

    • Agree: Paul Mendez, Spect3r
    • Replies: @rebel yell
  124. Getaclue says:
    @Athenian Gentleman

    One side — the NWO Great Reset “Elite” side — is very actively screwing over and crushing the other “side” (that side constitutes working class people and those who are not uber wealthy but still like to have some freedom in their lives) — people like you pretend not to know or see this, that is what is getting very old….

    • Replies: @Athenian Gentleman
  125. Rob says:
    @Veteran Aryan

    I gotta be honest. I do not know 100,000 people, so maybe take this with a grain of salt. There are a hundred thousand populists who would be better leaders, better King of the Proles than Donald J Trump. Sadly, it might be his son junior who inherits the mantle.

    Comparing President Trump to Primary Candidate Trump should really bring home the point the the skills needed to win an election and the skills needed to govern are extremely different beasts. Trump did not even use his only political asset: voters who would have taken a bullet for him. Even just a “Congressman Cumstain, it looks like you did not co-sponsor my immigration bill.

    “Tell me Congressman, are you so sure of your ability to win primaries that if I say, “everyone who voted for me, thank you. I have one more ask. Register as a Republican. Are all your friends registered to vote? Give one a ride to the registration place [DMV?] and buy him a beer afterwards. Tell him that there is something even more important than voting for Republicans. That is voting for good Republicans. I was wrong durinh my campaign. I cannot drain the swamp alone. I have to drain the Republican party swamp first. Congressman Cumstain is terrible ally. We need to primary him! I have picked out Bob StainRemover to run with my endorsement. Campaign for him! Tell all your friends to vote for him. I cannot implement [use a smaller word] my primary campaign promises with Congressman Cumstain in office.” Here’s where the magic happens. Republicans in office want to be the majority party. But from a Trumpian standpoint, Democrats in office are better than bad Republicans!

    If Trump had threatened to hurt the party in the 2017 elections and the Dems won the House [just like reality]? Then Trump looks like A man how can take out Republicans. He can cost representatives their pensions. He could have done the same to Senators. Hell, just having had an alternative to Paul Ryan for Speaker would have shown Republicans that crossing him has costs. Encouraging mild protests, even just, “everyone who supports the wall, come to DC and form a human wall blocking the Capitol. Show the Congress that Walls Work” Issue anexecutive order to demolish the walls around every federal prison. Walls don’t work, right? Do some jui jitsu. Inflitrators are dying trying to cross in deserts and dying? Issue an executive order to build a wall across the desert. It’s not anti-immigration. It’s humanitarian. Make everyone else argue that a few dead migrants is a cheap price for driving the working class into dire poverty. The courts move too slowly? They let aliens stay? Issue an executive order for 1000 new immigration judges. Argue that it’s unfair to leave people in limbo. The sooner they go home, the sooner they can rebuild their lives. Issue an order that the entire country is part of the zone where an illegal can be deported without a hearing. Drone strike “drug dealers” crossing the border. Make it an administrative crime for a federal employee to interact with an illegal without reporting him to ICE. Come up with a justification for counting illegals. When illegals are ordered deported, jail them until there are enough for a flight, then ship them to Mexico. Charge Mexico a fee for every illegal we have to process. You know how the patent office and rrademark office is an income source. Make ICE one, two. Require illegals to pre-pay for their legal expenses. Ten thousand for a hearing. Say it is necessary for hiring all those new immigration judges. At minimum, this ups the cost of immigrating. No reason coyotes should make 15K a head. Add 10k on the Ametican end for court and enforcement costs. No more special interest groups suing the government on the governments dime! No federal grants to any organization that sues the feds. These are all things that could be done by executive order. Trump did none of them. A worthless “Travel Ban.” issue another order that universal injunctions are not binding when matters of national security are at stake. Make immigration a matter of national security. Outsoucing still a problem? No company that outsources is eligible for federal contracts. Trump barely tried.

    Two years are a long time. Keeping his followers engaged would have shown Republicans that he was a force even when he wasn’t on the ballot. Start a PAC with his money.

  126. @Athenian Gentleman

    There are significant and real differences. To my mind, the biggest, though not the only ones, are that (1) mainstream hysterics are associated with consuming mainstream media sources that are part of an information ecosystem that can and does censor dissenting views while presenting its own perspective as transparently correct and reasonable, and that (2) mainstream hysterics don’t believe in conspiracy, they believe in the inherent evil or anti-sociality or anti-patriotism of dissenters. The thing I was really taken aback by in my conversation was the dismissal of other people’s not only interest in their rights but those very rights themselves. You don’t see this attitude coming from, eg, the Unz-o-sphere (unless you count the “rights” of illegal aliens to become citizens).

  127. @Mark G.

    I hope you’re right. I see it as something broader than COVID hysteria, so I don’t know if it is going away. TDS was not only an inability to make judgements, but also a style of emotive communication. That’s its connection to zero-COVID ranting. I don’t know if that will go away or just find other objects.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @AndrewR
  128. Emmett Till was murdered on January 6 for whistling at Ashli Babbitt. Jacob Chanley brained him with one of his Viking horns.

  129. @R.G. Camara

    It was 100% an FBI set up. I don’t know why it’s not getting more traction on the right but Ray Epps and his cohorts are all over the video herding people into the Capitol. None of the (FBI) inciters are being indicted, but the FBI and DOJ are busy arresting and putting away the unauthorized tourists.

    https://www.revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @JimDandy
  130. @Rob

    “Trump did not even use his only political asset: voters who would have taken a bullet for him. ”

    Amen.

  131. S says:
    @Danindc

    Hundreds of congressmen jumped to their deaths from the Capitol Rotunda. It was either that or be impaled by an American flagpole.

    I knew that sounded familiar. Ghost of dystopia yet to come?

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b-YWTlsDX5s/VAG9TjIpm-I/AAAAAAAAEJM/P0Jif6OyhkU/s280/Michael%2BYork%2B%2B%2BRichard%2BJordan%2B-%2BLogans%2BRun%2B(1976)%2Bbattle.bmp

  132. @Ben tillman

    This discussion is depressing.

    It seems as though the environment has finally taken over and affected Steve. The quality of the posts has gone down.

    There isn’t going to be a civil war. There will be a huge Red Wave in 2022, the Covidian madness will be beaten back, and the culture war will simmer on. It’s not a case of (((elites))) shoving anything on Good Americans, it’s a culture developing along a certain path. And there will be other parts that develop along different paths.

    Since wokism is shit and produces screwed up people who can’t reproduce, it will eventually die out.

    Have a great 2022 everyone. Calm down. Get back to nature. Stop worrying so much.

  133. @Athenian Gentleman

    Are any of the sentiments or assertions you cited more unhinged than much of the reverse hysteria that can be quite popular in these parts such as COVID denialism/ “PLANDEMIC”; anti-vax; “election was stolen”; or Q-Anon fantasies? (To say nothing of perennial Jew-obssessing.)

    “Plandemic” is far from unhinged. It’s unproven but entirely plausible.

    “Election was stolen” is a fact.

    The problem with the “Jew obsessing” is that almost all of it understates the problem.

    Finally, the Q Anon stuff was really stupid, but the victims were the believers, whereas in all the TDS stuff the victims are the lunatics’ enemies.

    In some cases, it is the populists and the dissidents who are more credible, compelling and in-touch with reality. On other matters, the elites, the establishment and the conventional thinking are.

    Absolutely not.

    • Replies: @Redman
  134. Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:

    Since wokism is shit and produces screwed up people who can’t reproduce, it will eventually die out.

    I’ve been noticing people who subscribe to the woke doctrine have been reproducing just fine for a long time.

    You might want to consider digging deeper. What is it about grown-ass black men that drives so many of them to, when frustrated, behave like 14 year old girls? The narcissistic personality disorder drives the wokeism.

    A majority of Black people, failures or highly successful, have that issue essentially baked into their common culture.

    Why?

  135. JMcG says:

    Steve, your instructions for donating via Square/Block contain an email link, which is dead.

  136. @rebel yell

    China should take Taiwan. It is historically part of China and is only separate because of foreign intervention in Chinese affairs. That part of the world is none of our business.
    Russia should take Ukraine.

    Instead of pronouncing that other people’s turf should be “taken” by somebody or another, how about the common sense–i.e. “radical”–notion that the people of Taiwan and Ukraine should govern themselves as they see fit.

    If those nations–or portions thereof (ex. Crimea)–wish to join up and become part of some other nation, great. If not, not.

    Nationalism–republican self-government by people who agree to common self-government–is the single governing principle that can actually mutually and peacefully scale. All else–i.e. all the “i govern you because i feel like it”–does not.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
    • Replies: @rebel yell
  137. @Paperback Writer

    “There will be a huge Red Wave in 2022, the Covidian madness will be beaten back, and the culture war will simmer on.”

    Red Wave? Only if GOPers show the backbone to prevent another Big Steal, unlike their conduct in 2018 and 2020. “Covidian madness will be beaten back”–only if TPTB have a new moral panic ready to take its place. “Culture war”–it’s been boiling over for generations, going back to before I caught you on The Ed Sullivan Show.

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
  138. @rebel yell

    China should take Taiwan. It is historically part of China and is only separate because of foreign intervention in Chinese affairs. That part of the world is none of our business

    .

    Nice sentiment, but Taiwan is our main source of microchips.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
  139. @Reg Cæsar

    Mexico certainly should not take Arizona – that IS our business. And Spain can’t have Mexico back either. The Monroe Doctrine is still good policy and to protect our own security we should keep eastern hemisphere foreign powers out of this hemisphere.
    England, Ireland, Sweden, Russia, Finland, Denmark, Norway and Poland can sort it, or fight it out, on their own.
    When I say Russia and China should do what they want in respect to their neighbors, I mean it is long overdue for us to stop embroiling ourselves in European, Middle Eastern, and Asian wars, and that means accepting that countries other than the US will be regional powers in their part of the world. Unfair to Taiwan? – sure, but other than saying “Gosh Golly that’s not fair!” we should stay out of it.
    Our security isn’t at stake in Taiwan. Our problem is on own southern border.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Disagree: Hibernian
  140. Redman says:
    @ben tillman

    Speaking of Qanon. Am I the only one here who thinks it’s an obvious US intelligence false creation?

    You read more about Q in the leftist Pravda than anywhere in the alt-right (or right adjacent) media. The “mystery” of who’s behind it suggests it’s a government creation.

    • Agree: Rob
  141. @Nicholas Stix

    I’ve run out of “Agrees,” so I can only say AGREE!!!

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
  142. @AnotherDad

    I’m happy for the people of Ukraine and Taiwan to govern themselves, and I’m a believer in self-governing nation states. But the reality is that big nations are going to take a power interest in the smaller nations around them. What happens in Mexico and Canada and Cuba is our business, up to a point. We shouldn’t allow a potential enemy to put bases there that threaten us (Cuban missile crisis).
    In fact the whole western hemisphere is “our turf”, up to a point (Monroe Doctrine). We should stick our nose in if we find a European or Asian power hostile to us taking over a nation in the Americas. Our security is at stake.
    We have options with Puerto Rico – keep it as a territory, make it a state, or cut it loose to become a nation. Whatever the right decision may be, it should be between us and the Puerto Ricans and none of Russia or China’s business.
    In a world with no US global hegemon, large nations like Russia and China are going to be regional powers in our stead. We should accept this. When they do things that are unfair to their lesser neighbors, we can object and speechify, but we should then swallow it and let it happen. None of our business.
    That is what I mean when I say China and Russia should do what they want. It’s their turf, not ours.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Reg Cæsar
  143. @Paul Mendez

    Suggest we learn to make microchips. I hear Flint, Michigan has some unused factory space available.

  144. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey

    Muslims right now are mostly agitated about China and Xinjiang.

  145. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    Jan. 6 is not in the past; it is every day

    That’s what they are hoping for. No surprise. Gives the libs so many excuses.

  146. @Jim Christian

    ‘…AOC, for merely one example, was in another building far from the capitol dome, yet claimed she hid under her desk to avoid being raped…’

    For a politician, she’s actually not bad looking — but she does seem to have an inflated idea of her desirability.

    I wonder if it’s some sort of Hispanic thing? Deep down inside, she knows that a respectable woman just doesn’t make herself this conspicuous? Why this fantasy that everyone is obsessed with her sexually?

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  147. @Veteran Aryan

    Good comment, and I really like “Cheeto Hitler”!

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  148. @Pat Hannagan

    It ends with a whimper, not a bang.

  149. I was looking up news of the wife-beating FBI agent and “fednapper” Richard Trask, and found this:

    Historian Richard Trask is a leading authority on the Salem witch-hunt of 1692… Trask has written numerous books and articles on Salem and two of his ancestors were hanged as witches.

    http://salem.lib.virginia.edu/archivist.html

    The irony is multitrasking.

    For many years there was a judge in Nebraska named Ronald Reagan. Obviously he was obscured by another figure with that name, but news of this ruling got around:

    Judge Orders Neb. Father To Not Speak ‘Hispanic’

    Dad Ordered To Speak English

    Little Destinie’s a big girl now, and goes by her mother’s name on social media today.

    • Replies: @Rob
  150. @Paperback Writer

    There isn’t going to be a civil war. There will be a huge Red Wave in 2022, the Covidian madness will be beaten back, and the culture war will simmer on. It’s not a case of (((elites))) shoving anything on Good Americans, it’s a culture developing along a certain path. And there will be other parts that develop along different paths.

    Some people aren’t statistical thinkers. The thing about this current crime wave is that the per capita murder rates in most places are still below their all-time 90’s highs. In NYC, that number is literally 1/4 of the 90’s highs. When those highs are breached, voting patterns will change. These people are going on and on as if we were dealing with Mexican-style mass graves and daylight firefights between rival cartels. People will get tired of retail shutting down next door, cars and homes being burgled routinely and carjackings and random shootings, thanks to DA’s who go easy on habitual criminals. Much later than they should have, they will vote for alternatives.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  151. Rob says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I had a boss once who said the “hispanic language.” i forget where he was from, but maybe it’s just dialect?

  152. @Achmed E. Newman

    Achmed E. Newman wrote:

    If [David Brooks] wrote that about the slightly-out-hand protest last Jan 6th, then David Brooks has got it wrong.

    Brooks has finally publicly admitted that he is a moderate liberal Democrat:

    I’m content, as my hero Isaiah Berlin put it, to plant myself instead on the rightward edge of the leftward tendency—in the more promising soil of the moderate wing of the Democratic Party.

    So, I want to celebrate Brooks’ coming out by announcing my own coming out: I am not a conservative.

    I am a Jeffersonian, a Voltairean, a Thoreauist, a Lockean, a “civic nationalist,” a supporter of the American Republic. My loyalty is to the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, peace, civil liberties, the rule of law, a sound currency, low taxes, and my fellow American citizens.

    But I must publicly and with great shame confess: I am not a conservative.

    On the one hand, Jefferson, Thoreau, Voltaire, and Locke. On the other hand, the forebears whom David Brooks praises in his essay: Alexander Hamilton, Edmund Burke, Bill Buckley.Willmoore Kendall, and Peter Viereck.

    Now that’s a hard choice! I mean, how can John Locke or Voltaire compare to Bill Buckley or Peter Viereck?

    And so, “Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders.”

    All the true-blue conservatives — the neocons, the militarists, the welfare statists, the oligarchs, and all of David Brooks’ other friends — are welcome to the Democratic Party.

    For myself, I am not a conservative.: I merely stand with the founding principles of the American Republic.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Ron Mexico
  153. HA says:
    @Forbes

    “Starting? What are we up to? 20,000 VAERS deaths? 700,000 VAERS reports of all injuries/deaths/adverse events? What am I missing?”

    For starters, the simple fact that if the data was actually showing what the wetting-our-panties-over-needles brigade said it did, and if the government was doing exactly what that conspiracy has them doing, why would the CDC leave the site up?

    Back in February, when Reuters first addressed this, they noted that:

    The CDC estimates that about 1.3 million COVID-19 vaccine doses were administered to residents in long-term care facilities as of Jan. 18, 2021. Given this, the CDC expected to see a background mortality of 11,440 deaths (slide 36 here), which is multiple times higher than the number of VAERS reports in the dataset.

    Reuters updated that story in July.

    As I said earlier, I have no problem believing that getting a dose of that spike protein into your system whichever way — be it from a vaccine or the virus — may indeed increase the chances of you suffering a clot, but COVID’s alacrity in killing people with clots has been observed long before vaccines were available. [link to a WP story on COVID and clots from April-2020] but if it’s now even more inevitable we’re all going to get COVID at some point, the RELATIVE clot risks have to be factored in, and as far as I can tell, that still puts the vaxxed in a significantly better position, which as I understand it is why many claim that even teenagers are better off vaxxed (though that’s getting into murkier territory, and as I noted the other day, I suppose that could all change now that the milder Omicron is around).

    The number of vaccine lawsuits is up by about 25% in 2021 relative to 2019, but given the increase in vaccinations, I’m not sure what that translates to on a per-dose basis, and I doubt it’s that significant.

    Remember, so far, the vaxxed are dying less than the unvaxxed from ALL causes, not just COVID. Admittedly, it’s a skewed dataset, given that the unvaxxed are probably also more likely to be daredevils, derelicts, homeless, etc., and that’s probably what explains much or all of the differential, but that’s what you’re going to have to unravel.

  154. Lurker says:
    @Veteran Aryan

    they’ve sold themselves a dangerous lie – that Donald Trump is a cause and not just an effect . . . they’ve deluded themselves and their followers into believing that Cheeto Hitler is the actual problem and not just a symptom of the real issues they refuse to confront.

    This is a common failing. I’ve spoken to a couple of people recently, both intelligent and well educated, both of whom have said they simply cannot understand how Trump was elected.

    Which means they are paying attention to entirely the wrong sources of information. If something is inconceivable then one should attempt to find out more.

    What they’re really saying is “I’ve got no idea what I’m talking about!”

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  155. Protests in Holland, as new restrictions and a new lockdown has been announced starting on the 19th, to stop the new Omicron wave. The U.S also is experiencing a massive upsurge in cases.

    It seems like we are now living in Lockdown Society. Almost 2 years strong, this appears to be the new normal. I predict a future where directors of National Health Services will be the new unelected Kings of the Realms. America already has King Fauci, the Federal Bureaucrat In Charge.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  156. Shel100 says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Fortunately the brave capitol police officer Michael Byrd didn’t leave his gun in the bathroom that time and he able shoot all of them single handedly.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  157. Speaking of MSM, in both meanings of the initialism, who is that next to Alisyn Camerota when Dulcé Sloan tells Don Lemon she’s through with, um, penniless penis? Alisyn has twin daughters; is that one of them?

    How does New Year’s Eve compare to Shrove Tuesday in N’awlins?

  158. J.Ross says:
    @rebel yell

    It was a plot, they did a trial run in Michigan (a very glowie affair in which armed protesters were buffaloed into entering the state capitol and confronting Michigan state reps, which glows in daylight because the Michigan legislature is Republican) and then the FBI branch head was promoted to DC just in time to set up the national edition. This is probably why Biden has been in Michigan of all places any time he’s not in DC, Delaware, or a summit.

  159. J.Ross says:

    Wow, what a good but depressing thread. If only an anonymous Australian had a whitepill for us.

    [all following lifted from 4chan:]

    Given the fact that Australia is practically by far the most reliant on migrant labour of all developed economies, and the fact we’ve had one of the hardest border policies in the world – what is going on here is one of the best case studies we will get of what happens to a globohomo economy when immigration stops.

    Surprise surprise, there’s been a considerable increase in wages, job demand and the housing prices are starting to go down (our housing market is probably the most BIDENed in the world).

    Globohomo think tanks and advocacy groups in media are desperately trying to change our perception of it though – there’s ‘experts’ all the time in the media crying how we need to open our borders because there is a ‘labour shortage’ and wages might get ‘too high’.

    Good whitepill moment in this Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/australian/status/1477780493810741249

    It’s an article by the national conservative newspaper arguing for record levels of migration to push up the GDP – and not a single BIDENing person in the replies is buying it. Generally, most Australians want a massive reduction in migration after realising why wages have stagnated for decades and they won’t ever be able to afford a house

  160. JimDandy says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Maybe because a good chunk of the GOP establishment was in on it/supportive of burning the Trump movement down and the salting the earth.

  161. @Verymuchalive

    Scott Adams said, it was just a reminder for the rulers from the regular folks. An (ever so lightly) “tap on the back” (Scott Adams) of the elites accompagnied by the words: We’re here. You cheated on us at the elections. We will not forget.

    Scott Adams hit the bull’s eye here.

  162. @Shel100

    Byrd was remarkably accurate for a black shooter, as Mr Steve would surely concur. A 100% mortality rate is practically unheard of. There must have been a second white shooter beside him to ensure success if Byrd missed. There’s been a conspiracy to suppress this, I tell you !

  163. @YetAnotherAnon

    Van der Lubbe claimed to have set the Reichstag building on fire in an attempt to rally German workers against fascist rule. He was brought to trial along with the head of the German Communist Party and three Bulgarian members of the Comintern. At his trial, Van der Lubbe was convicted and sentenced to death for the Reichstag fire. The four other defendants (Ernst Torgler, Georgi Dimitrov, Blagoi Popov, and Vasil Tanev) were acquitted.

    Be Fair. The top Communist defendants were actually acquitted. So NSDAP Germany did not claim conspiracy, either.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  164. @Danindc

    Some of the Congresscritters got gored to death by the guy with the bison horns. Buffalo Bill would have been proud !

  165. JimDandy says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Much later than they should have? That’s a pretty safe prediction. Like, decades from now? Or did you mean, “When it’s much too late.”? Either way, the people of Chicago recently reelected the militantly pro-crime Kim Foxx and they will not elect a mayor who supports genuinely aggressive policing (the only solution) in the next election. Meanwhile, the type of people who would vote for a sane mayor will continue voting with their feet. But the Dems are intent on chasing after them and sticking a project in every decent suburb.

    PS: I’m not sure what it’s like in New York these days, but it is nowhere near hyperbolic to say that crime is out of control in Chicago. Soros doesn’t tire of retail closings.

  166. @Alrenous

    I’m not trying to be rude, but could you please not use the term “congresscritters” ?
    “critter” has a kind of “cute” sub-meaning.
    Critters may imply harmlessness, even children & fluffiness. And we all know there is NOTHING cute or harmless about that gang of ugly oligarchic tools & self serving arseholes.
    (Congress are “critters” in a vein similar to toads, black widows, viruses & leaches & mosquitos)

    • Replies: @MM
    , @Alrenous
  167. Spect3r says:
    @Peter Lund

    Im going out on a limb and just assume that you are an American citizen…
    I find it hilarious, citizens (not to mention the government) of the ONLY country to ever have used Atomic Bomb are the ones trying to tell others who can or can’t have them.
    Hypocrisy much?

    • Replies: @Peter Lund
    , @74v56ruthiyj
  168. MM says:
    @Dmitri Fyodorovich

    I think he meant “former US ally”. Certainly the US is not steadfast in its “friendships”.

    Although thinking of countries as if they were people is taking anthropomorphization too far – countries do not have friends, they have interests.

    On the other hand, the US often does not follow its interests either – which is why the Americans are seen as fickle.

    • Replies: @Dmitri Fyodorovich
  169. MM says:
    @animalogic

    “Congressvermin” is possibly more accurate.

  170. Spect3r says:
    @rebel yell

    This!!!
    I am amazed at all this talk, even by Tim Pool, the supposed “I am against foreign wars” guy, that US has to defend Taiwan because of the microchips.
    Ah? Hello? How about bringing the factories back to USA? No? Just an idea.

    • Disagree: Paul Mendez
  171. Art Deco says:
    @Zero Philosopher

    Protests in Holland, as new restrictions and a new lockdown has been announced starting on the 19th, to stop the new Omicron wave. The U.S also is experiencing a massive upsurge in cases.

    Omicron peaked in the Netherlands several weeks ago.

    • Replies: @Zero Philosopher
  172. @Mina Horowitz

    Mr. Epstein didn’t kill himself.

    The 2020 election was fraudulent.

    But the vaccines aren’t killing large numbers of people.

    I am trying to work the kto/kgo (who/whom) angle here. Yeah, yeah, long-term effects and all of that, but if there was anything seriously wrong with the vaccine, I am thinking that the Big Bad Pharmaceutical Companies Who Are Profiting from Trump’s Vaccine would have come to MSM and TBTB attention by now?

    Yeah, yeah and yeah, Clot Shot is a good slogan, but the vaccines are generating the same spike protein as the actual virus, so how can the vaccine be worse than the virus itself in terms of long-term effects?

    The J&J vaccine was pulled from the market, at least in the US and at least for a period of time. Was this over clotting incidents in a small number of young women taking The Pill?

    Was this a Mothra vs Godzilla fight between Monster Pharmas. I thought this was an indication if there was the least bit of anything wrong with any of the vaccines, boy would you hear about it. What is wrong with my reasoning?

    As to the number of people that need to be in on a massive stolen election conspiracy, I thought this was the Agatha Christie effect — they all did it, with the Belgian detective becoming an accessory to murder after-the-fact by lying to the Croatian police. There were too many people in too many places fearful of Mr. Trump, Repubs included, that they all knew “what they had to do” and they did it.

    I just don’t see such a massive conspiracy of silence on the vaccine over such a length of time given its connection to targets-of-opportunity that the MSM would gladly go after?

  173. Wokechoke says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Every child who gets a fatal reaction to the vaccine is a murder by the bio-state. That’s just a fact.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  174. I read that editorial and noticed this phrase in the very first sentence: ” … the very real bloodshed of that awful day … ” Now, I know that one person was killed, and she was a rioter shot by a policeman. Undoubtedly some others were hurt somewhat and may have bled a bit. But can anyone who knows the facts read this phrase and not think that there is something not quite right in those NYT editorial brains?

  175. ic1000 says:
    @tanabear

    Thanks for the link to this Dec. 18, 2021 story from Revolver News.

    Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web Of Unindicted Operators At The Heart Of January 6.

    Well-written and seemingly well-documented. I hadn’t heard of Revolver, or of the Jan. 6 participants who are profiled.

    It would be surprising that none of the Fact Checks that I’ve read dispute the claims in this story, or link to it. It would be surprising that I’d seen no prior mention in the media of “Ray Epps,” the participant with an established name, hometown (Phoenix), and identity — much less that the NYT or one of its followers have reviewed/rebutted the circumstantial evidence of his role as a Federal informant or operative.

    Except, American Pravda.

    • Replies: @tanabear
    , @ytcarl
  176. Dan Smith says:

    In the 60s and 70s there multiple January 6ths each year but back then the authorities had a rougher group than the Capitol police to deal with the attempts. Back then it was the People exerting their power, not deplorable jerks attempting a coup.

  177. @Paperback Writer

    “Have a great 1917 everyone. Calm down. Get back to nature. Stop worrying so much.”

    “Have a great 1949 everyone. Calm down. Get back to nature. Stop worrying so much.”

    History may not repeat, but it does rhyme, P.W. Our enemies are Communists – the masses of useful idiots could have been reincarnated from a 1916 Leninist or 1966 Red Guard, and you could not tell the difference.

    I kind of agree with “stop worrying” though. I say “start planning”. We are in much better shape than the poor Russians in 1916, Chinese in 1948, etc. for one reason – Amendment II.

    • Replies: @S
  178. tanabear says:
    @ic1000

    Revolver.news was started in 2020 by former Trump speechwriter Darren Beattie. You should look for some of his videos on-line, but not at youtube, but sites like http://www.rumble.com and http://www.odysee.com. He does appear on Bannon’s War Room podcast fairly frequently. Also you should read over their other exclusive stories.

    Joe Rogan actually talked about this revolver.news story on one of his podcasts.

    https://rumble.com/vpmhhp-joe-rogan-on-january-6-glowie-ray-epps-the-agent-provocateur-who-incited-mo.html

    • Thanks: ic1000
  179. Tom F. says:
    @Paul Mendez

    Also 140 police officers injured, was the claim. No medical reports made public, and a list of injured officers has been requested by the press and denied, no list of injuries. A policeman’s broken bone would be verificable, but it didn’t happen. Sounds sus.

  180. Jack D says:
    @rebel yell

    How far should these Russian and Chinese spheres of influence extend? Can the Russians take back the eastern half of Germany where they had troops as recently as 30 years ago? Can Putin reopen his KGB office in Dresden? Does the Chinese sphere of influence include Japan? They use a writing system that is based on Chinese. South Korea, a former Chinese tribute state? Is it all none of our business? We can easily “none of our business” ourselves into a corner.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Thanks: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    , @rebel yell
  181. @Achmed E. Newman

    Wouldn’t Cheeto Hitler have an orange mustache instead of orange hair?

    • Replies: @Tom F.
  182. nebulafox says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Conservatism is only a logical position to take if there’s something worth conserving.

  183. @Jack D

    The one thing that nobody on the right questioned in 2016 was the issue of whether it was plausible that Russians could have interfered in our elections. Nobody was saying, “Russia?!?! Ha, ha! Russia’s on the other side of the Atlantic! Hey, Democrats, get out a map, you idiots!!” The reason is that everybody knows we live in a different world from 1823.

    I grew up next to a USAFB that practiced scrambling FB-111 bombers to fight a transoceanic war, and now 30 years later, I live in Japan and can read almost real-time reports of Elon Musk’s private internet satellite network sideswiping the PRC’s space station while the price of laptops is going up because the supply chain for computer parts starts and goes through Asia. But some nincompoops on iSteve are still telling me about the Monroe Doctrine and theories of great power hemispheric influence.

    I’d like rebel yell to explain how he’s going to enforce the Monroe Doctrine in a world in which China has absorbed Taiwan and effectively controls Asia and the Pacific. “Hey, you can’t build a base in Canada! If you do, well… oh, shit!”

    • Replies: @rebel yell
  184. Tom F. says:

    J6 Capitol police booze it up! They are having a great time, day-drinking on a Wednesday.
    https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1477991680687185920/photo/1

  185. Jack D says:
    @Jew

    Jewish Rabbi

    Is there any other kind?

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Reg Cæsar
  186. Jack D says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Kinmen is also known as Quemoy, which became famous during the 1960 Presidential debates as “Quemoy and Matsu”. To give you an idea of how little the debate has advanced, Nixon and Kennedy were arguing then (60 years ago) about whether the US should come to Taiwan’s defense if it was attacked by China.

    Kinmen remains under Taiwanese control to this day, even though it is only a few miles off of the Chinese coast.

    It’s not unreasonable to imagine that China might someday try to take it as a first bite to gauge the world’s reaction, the way Putin took Crimea. OTOH, it has less strategic value than Crimea.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Reg Cæsar
  187. @Altai

    Why would the Iranians bomb NYC or London when they can sit back and let the peoples’ elected leaders do the dirty work for them. Same goes for the Nork or ChiCom threat to SF & LA?

    The headlines are nothing more than a psyop to distract the little people from this fact of life in the current iteration of the Western world, which is being destroyed from within.

  188. Jack D says:
    @Paperback Writer

    Since wokism is shit and produces screwed up people who can’t reproduce, it will eventually die out.

    There are a couple of problems with this. First of all, the brainwashing that they receive in the educational system insures that a fair number of the offspring of conservatives (esp. the females) will be infected with wokism. How many conservative men here have liberal daughters?

    2nd, the people who are reproducing are even WORSE than the woke. The woke are idiots but they are not unintelligent. Every time I read about some “aspiring rapper” who has become an expired rapper, the story usually mentions a number of kids who he has left behind (even if the expired was himself still quite young). Walter Wallace, Jr. was 27 when he suffered one of his frequent mental breakdowns and went after a couple of Philly cops with a knife, thus causing the cops to terminate his rap career. He left behind 9, count ’em 9, children. Walter was a heavy hitter but any aspiring rapper his age usually has at least a couple of keeds with a couple of baby mamas. The guy who carjacked the Congresswoman has 2 kids at age 19. Walter may be dead but his wonderful genes will be rapping us far into the future.

    So what we will get is not fewer Woke people but the stupidification of the Woke like that black nurse lady who now writes editorials for Scientific American. It’s only a short step for the cat ladies who are now the editors of SA to be replaced by people like the nurse lady so SA will not only be Woke but Woke and (even more) stupid.

    • Agree: bomag
  189. Hibernian says:

    Semi OT – This was rejected by Facebook based on “Community Standards”:

    “A unit patch, created in 1917, for a unit which included, as subordinate units, state units which had fought on both sides in the Civil War, and which was intended as a sign of national unity, is targeted for Confederate ties:”

    https://www.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/29th-infantry-colors-targeted-for-possible-deletion-for-ties-to-confedera

  190. @WJ

    Obviously Iras has had and still has the capability to build nuclear bombs, why shouldn’t it? It is not 1946 when you had to be a top scientific power to get nukes.

  191. @rebel yell

    Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company is the world’s preeminent manufacturer of chips, by far. They are the only ones producing 5nm chips and have announced 3nm chips. Intel is making 9nm chips.

    TSMC will be a smoking ruin if China takes Taiwan, and the whole world will be screwed. Fabs take 10s of bi\$\$ions of dollars and years to build.

    • Agree: Paul Mendez
    • Replies: @JMcG
  192. @Redman

    Yes, I think you’re right.

  193. BB753 says:
    @WJ

    “We all know what happened to him in 11 after he was dragged out of that building”

    Mandatory sodomy by a blunt object? Isn’t that the fate awaiting all of us heteropatriarchal deplorables, if Hillary, Biden and AOC had their way?

  194. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    It was an open question whether we’d do anything at all for Taiwan in 1950 until a little something called the Korean War came along. Relations between the KMT government in Chongqing and Washington had been strained since WWII, especially in the military, and hadn’t improved as they lost the civil war.

    It’s a bit strange with hindsight, but the guy who really didn’t want the KMT eradicated in 1949 was Josef Stalin, of all people. His approval of the invasion of South Korea, carried out with Soviet rather than Chinese arms and advisors/officers, was not least intended to ensure Taiwan remained out of Mao’s hands by keeping him occupied in the north: and that Mao would stay in his camp as a reliable satellite. Last thing he wanted was an Asian Tito, and decades of dealing with Chiang had probably indicated that Mao was not likely to be any more tractable unless he was forced to be.

    >It’s not unreasonable to imagine that China might someday try to take it as a first bite to gauge the world’s reaction, the way Putin took Crimea. OTOH, it has less strategic value than Crimea.

    I don’t put it beyond the realm of possibility that Xi and Putin would coordinate such a move: that’s what I’d do, after all. The US would be powerless to do anything about it.

    The truth is, after 25 years of total mismanagement, we can handle one theater of “problems” at a time: if that. It’s not as if America’s current political dysfunction is a secret to the rest of the world. Unlike Russia, though, we’ve decided to make various supply systems reliant on China, so that’s more of a priority in terms of managing how and to what extent we leave. And while our various allies in East/Southeast Asia have their issues, they aren’t the ones doing actively stupid things like shutting down nuclear plants in favor of Russian dominated gas pipelines while assuming the US will always be able to foot military bills.

    (That, and getting America’s crap together at home allows us to play the one card we have an infinite superiority in for the moment-soft power-instead of further confirming enemy propaganda.)

    • Replies: @Jack D
  195. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    >How many conservative men here have liberal daughters?

    A few in my extended family. All of them took a noticeable turn to the right when they started to become mothers over the last 5 years or so.

    Becoming a parent really does change you. Although my parents remained adrenaline junkies with a low tolerance for enforced confinement and boredom all their lives-a trait my siblings and I inherited-they notably mellowed out once we came along. They had to.

    (Also, women typically are influenced their man politically. And I guarantee you: wokeism is alienating the **** out of young men of all races and backgrounds.)

    • Replies: @BB753
  196. @Anonymous

    What would they do if they caught you doing it again? Take you into a basement room and break your hands with a ball peen hammer, like in Casino?

    That was a weird incident. Thanks for sharing.

  197. HA says:
    @Mina Horowitz

    “The problem is governments coercing their population into getting it… That alone, regardless of any side effects, should keep you up at night.”

    That was settled when Washington sent a battalion of smallpox-scarred Revolutionary soldiers to prevent people from leaving Boston. And you think wearing a mask to Walmart violates the Constitution, you say? Those families back then were only looking for a way to escape with their lives out of a smallpox-ridden hellhole and the so-called father of our life-liberty-happiness country sent armed and virus-scarred soldiers with rifles to stand in their way and tell them: “No, you’re either all going to die, or else become as disfigured by this as we are, but you’re not leaving.”

    Washington also forced his soldiers to be inoculated — back when inoculation had a death rate of somewhere in the single percentage digits, maybe as high as 10%. But you think you’re entitled to a slow handclap because the airlines want you to get a COVID shot? That’s not going to work on anyone who knows the historical score, because the issue of the government coercing people in this way or that in response to a pandemic is settled law at this point. Like the lady in the Churchill joke, we’re all just haggling now over how infectious a disease has to be before it warrants a given measure, and both pro- and anti- “coercion” forces have each won several rounds in the courts.

    You want a new policy that properly reflects the fact that the people you don’t care about shouldn’t be saved? Fine — put it on a bumper sticker or a poster, and go get yourself elected. Win or lose, I’ll deal with it, and the world will likely go on spinning, but given the history of Boston and Typhoid Mary, and leper colonies, and TB sanatoriums, you’ll do better if you tone down the woe-is-me routine. Regardless of how this turns out, some parents will likely need to find another school for their little flowers, some people will need to find another place to work, or else drive instead of taking a plane, or else try to fight it out in the courts. The Amish are flourishing, and they’re not being stuffed into cattle cars yet, so do what they do for all I care, but preferably without the histrionics. In the grand scheme of things, I’m still saving my sympathies for those Boston families and the guy back in the Old Testament trying to convince the rabbis, “come on, guys, it’s just a little rash”.

    • Replies: @Mina Horowitz
  198. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    decades of dealing with Chiang

    Chiang (and especially his son and later successor) had close ties personal ties with the USSR. Chiang Jr. lived in the USSR for over a decade and was married to a Russian woman.

    But in international affairs, long term national interests seem to trump ideology. Despite both being Communist, the Vietnamese and the Chinese hate each other because they always have. Having similar monarchist systems and even close blood relationships among their royalty didn’t stop Russia and England from going to war with Germany.

    So, despite their similarities as popular dictators (but dictators nevertheless) , Putin and Xi are not really natural allies. They may come together temporarily as did Hitler and Stalin but the marriage cannot last. Even (especially) if America was out of the picture, the dreamed of “spheres of influence” of China and Russia overlap with each other.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  199. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    As I mentioned before, look at the way that the Communists are behaving in Hong Kong. 99% dissent free is not good enough for Communists. They are not happy unless society is completely rid of the “virus of hate”. You have to round up ALL the stragglers. In Philly they almost cancelled the 120 year old Mummer’s Parade because maybe two guys (out of thousands of marchers) didn’t get the memo and put black paint on their face. Now all marchers have to be prescreened by an ideological committee – that’s a real red blooded American tradition. The guys hadn’t really broken any laws but they would have arrested them if they could – there is nothing that we hate more than hate.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  200. IMO, the best anti-establishment youtuber/podcaster today is VDH, Victor Davis Hanson.

    I know he’s Conservative Inc safe, but I swear he is red pilled, more or less. It all depends which parts of the establishment you are “anti” I guess. He’s just been too smart too hitch his wagon to any super-controversial issue over the years. But he’s been quoting crime stats with gusto lately.

    This guy does the news cycle issues so I dont have to, all the while teaching from a greco-roman education a mile long.

    Here’s a new podcast of his…(puts out a few per week.)
    This is simply a brilliant analysis of 2021, and the bullshit the Left produced. And he’s mellifluous.

    .

  201. The tweet makes almost no sense, but the replies are priceless.

  202. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    Well, you have to be careful, because Chiang was in reality a fire-breathing anti-Communist who might have killed more domestic “Reds” than any other right-wing dictator: and treated Russian nationals very harshly during these purges. On the other side of the ledger, the Soviet Union was happy to intervene in Xinjiang continuously throughout the 1930s, and in 1945, proceeded to rape-both literally and materially-occupied Manchuria to an extent excessive even on Red Army standards. (As if the poor people didn’t have enough to deal with their previous occupier, who set up Unit 731 near Harbin.)

    But Stalin and Chiang did have something in common: they weren’t the sort of guys who were sentimental about how the game works or let the fate of people they were ideologically sympathetic to in foreign countries get in the way of doing business. And if Stalin could see what lay ahead in the 1960s, he might have wished Chiang remained in power.

    >So, despite their similarities as popular dictators (but dictators nevertheless) , Putin and Xi are not really natural allies.

    They aren’t, but it matters little if America is in no condition to exploit it. Also, Putin’s not the one verbally feting Uighur separatists or Hong Kong kids.

    There’s a fundamental lack of seriousness or reliability in America’s current political class-in everything they say or do-and the outside world can see this. Unfortunately, the historical precedents for that aren’t good.

  203. @Jack D

    So what we will get is not fewer Woke people but the stupidification of the Woke like that black nurse lady who now writes editorials for Scientific American.

    Kind of like the Machete Boys of Congo:

    https://rtd.rt.com/films/machete-boys-of-congo-kuluna-youth-gangs-terror/

    RT will be able to call the sequel, Machete Boys of Chi-Congo!

    • Replies: @Jack D
  204. @Art Deco

    So? The lockdown is announced for this coming January 19th, not for several weeks ago.

  205. S says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Have a great 1917 everyone. Calm down. Get back to nature. Stop worrying so much.”

    “Have a great 1949 everyone. Calm down. Get back to nature. Stop worrying so much.”

    I kind of agree with “stop worrying” though….

    I see what you did there! And, of course you would say something just like that, wouldn’t you, Mr Neuman…err…Newman?

    As an aside, like a great many others, I had always thought a very young 14 year old Ted Koppel of future Nightline fame had been the original model for the Mad magazine mascot. Little did I know, but, Mr Neuman’s origins actually go back a lot farther than the 1950’s. 🙂


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_E._Neuman

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  206. fake insurrection, fake virus, fake vaccine, fake economy, fake president.

    Fake off!

  207. Alrenous says: • Website
    @animalogic

    That they’re harmless is exactly what I believe about congresscritters.

    Sure, they’re malicious and ugly, but they’re so incompetent and generally weak it’s like being attacked by a dust bunny. Oh no, I have to shine my shoes, which I was going to do anyway. Not that.

    Honestly the pious don’t need to worry at all, but if you’re not into piety, you should worry about those who pay congress. Why do they employ so many ugly useless idiots? Also, with what? That kind of shit can only be paid for with plunder.

    N.B. Gnon hates plunderers. It will be taken care of whether you worry about it or not. Eventually.

  208. Goddard says:
    @mc23

    Perhaps they were drawn to capital by AOC’s beauty.

    AOC is buck-toothed but has a nice body. She’s porkable.

  209. BB753 says:
    @nebulafox

    I have a young son but if it’s any help each and every female in my extended family is a raging liberal. My cousins won’t even see me anymore (or my son) because I’m a “bigot and a fascist”.
    At work, (a 100 % conservative-free zone) I never talk politics because I’d probably get fired and also because I no longer care to debate fanatics. It’s totally pointless.

  210. @J1234

    “breaking Emmett Till updates”

    Received a screener of “Till,” produced by Whoopi Goldberg, one of Steve’s former lovers. The actor playing “Till” has a round and creepy face. Ripe for punching; not sympathetic at all. “Till” gives off American Holocaust vibes. Idolatry of creepy face’s last name indicates canonization in process.

    • Replies: @Barnard
  211. @PhysicistDave

    Your statement is the very definition of conservative. Love the Thoreau. “Resistance to Civil Government” is the greatest political essay ever written.

  212. @Redman

    I said this on here months ago. The intelligence agencies combined several different semi-credible conspiracy theories that had been floating around online since the 2000s, made them more outlandish, and turned them into one unified mega-theory under QAnon circa 2017. The purpose wasn’t just to undermine Trump/Trump supporters but also to discredit alt media in general since it was rising in popularity up until the point QAnon took off and made it look stupid again.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  213. @Wokechoke

    Is every child that dies of Covid, but would have survived with the vaccine, therefore murdered by their parents?

    Because there’ll be more of those murders as a proportion than the ones you are pointing out.

    • Thanks: HA
    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @Mr. Anon
  214. Barnard says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Is “Till” different from this ABC miniseries they are making about Emmett Till? Even among black women, this has to far exceed the demand for entertainment options focused on the death of Emmett Till.

    https://abc.com/shows/women-of-the-movement/about-the-show

    • Replies: @Reactive Reaction
  215. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    To completely blow things up is terrible to contemplate, but it is an effective way to release tension. At this juncture the most civil settlement we can hope for is regional leaders to come to the fore to work for regional interests, and sod all this “one big happy country” crap, coming from DC.

    One way or another we are headed for a national divorce, and the United States could be broken up into several very nice smaller countries.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Bill
  216. @Jack D

    OTOH, it has less strategic value than Crimea.

    The land doesn’t. EEZ is another matter. Without Taiwan’s, China’s is blocked from open access to the Pacific and the world.

    It’s all about the water. It also might explain China’s obsession with the Silk Road. As a backup, in case the world gangs up on her.

  217. Tom F. says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Now, now, let us have some respect for Jen Psaki!

  218. Barnard says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    How many deaths from Covid have there been among kids when the were vaccine eligible? Kids 5 and under are still not eligible. There are only 655 total for the entire pandemic in the 0-17 year old range. Given the way deaths are reported, there is a good chance a significant percentage of those are “with Covid” when it was not a primary cause of death (cancer, car accidents, etc.) I don’t think anyone even could accurately break out the data if they wanted to, but it seems reasonable that deaths from Covid among vaccine eligible kids is below 100. Given the number of schools and other organizations that have been caught giving the vaccine to kids without parental consent, You can’t blame the parents anymore either.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

  219. Too many CA kids won’t show up for in-person babysitting. LAUSD is pushing its delegation in Sacramento to change the state’s school funding policy from one based on daily attendance to that of total enrollment.

    Though the teachers union is very happy with the convenience of remote babysitting, and intends to bargain for it intensively at its next contract negotiation, de facto some 86% of kids don’t show up for it. The new policy, if (when) enacted, will ensure that LAUSD gets all of its tax funding regardless of how many kids refuse to login (or whether they dropout, transfer, etc.).

    (In the past Covid school year, many districts, across the country, that experienced reduced attendance, were legally obligated to refund tax money, paid to them in advance, to their state’s general fund. Naturally, the politicians either told them to keep it or else the districts were able use federal bailout funds to cover the bill. The government always holds itself harmless.)

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  220. Jack D says:

    I meant Kinmen, not all of Taiwan. That China might bite off Kinmen in order to test the world’s reaction.

  221. Mr. Anon says:
    @Redman

    Speaking of Qanon. Am I the only one here who thinks it’s an obvious US intelligence false creation?

    My guess would be that Qanon started out as an organic conspiracy theory created by people who really believed it, but that it eventually came to be promoted and used by state actors. Of course, I could be wrong – it could have been a creation of intelligence agencies, as you suggest.

    It’s most famous tenet “Trust the Plan” is a call to political inaction: “Don’t worry. Things are happening behind the scenes. It’s all in the works.” It was enormously effective at diverting the political activity of right-leaning people in a useless direction. On the other hand it did seem to be effective at mobilizing a lot of people (like Ashli Babbitt). That’s always the problem with agent-provacteurism. It can get out of hand. However, on January 6th, it produced just the right amount of getting-out-of-handedness for the establishment to be able to use.

    Once it started to break out into mainstream discourse, the media seemed to love to talk about Qanon. It was so patently silly that ridiculing it was an effective stick to beat the unwashed deplorables with. The “conspiracy theories” that are more likely to be true (not guaranteed, mind you, but more likely) are the ones that the media doesn’t want to talk about.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  222. Mr. Anon says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Is every child that dies of Covid, but would have survived with the vaccine, therefore murdered by their parents?

    Because there’ll be more of those murders as a proportion than the ones you are pointing out.

    No, that’s very unlikely to be true. Children are at virtually zero risk from COVID. They are at much greater risk from the vaccine, especially as more and more doses are required.

    • Replies: @HA
  223. Jack D says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Right, you get a whole game of musical chairs when you define deviancy downward – the nurse lady who is unqualified becoming the editorial director of SA means that the cleaning woman takes the nurse lady’s former nursing job and the drug addict who (sometimes) takes the cleaning lady’s job, and so on down the line.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  224. @Spect3r

    Think again.

    European who is really not a fan of Israel or Zionists… but even less of a fan of the current version of Iran.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  225. @S

    Little did I know, but, Mr Neuman’s origins actually go back a lot f[u]rther than the 1950’s.

    Ted Koppel’s go back to London. Other American notables born in England are Bob Hope, Taylor Caldwell, Elizabeth Taylor, Jule Styne, Jerry Springer, Slash, and Jemima Kirke. The fathers of WC Fields and Iggy Pop came here from Blighty.

    “I am from London, England, born and raised. But I am not English—because I am black. I am British.”

    In contrast, the exotically-named Thorstein Veblen, Gutzon Borglum, Mario Lanza, Adolphe Menjou, Minoru Yamasaki, Jorma Kaukonen (Sr. as well as Jr.), Bernhard Goetz, Marcel and René Lachemann, Sanjay Gupta, Viggo Mortensen, Timothée Chalamet and أنور العولقي were all born in the United States.

  226. HA says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Children are at virtually zero risk from COVID. They are at much greater risk from the vaccine..

    Assertions don’t impress me whether they’re from you or Yeadon, or people like Kostoff. If you want to claim things like that, show your work.

    Provisional data from the National Center for Health Statistics shows 700 kids under the age of 18 have died from the virus. More than 200 of them were younger than 4 years old.

    The same can’t be said of the vaccine.

    “In the U.S., no child has died from the vaccine, but over 600 have died from COVID,” Dr. Leana Wen, a professor of health policy and management at George Washington University, said in an email. “…In Pfizer’s clinical trials for children 5 to 11 years old, no deaths from the COVID-19 vaccine were recorded. Additionally, no deaths were reported among Pfizer vaccine recipients during trials for those between 12 and 25 years old. The Moderna vaccine trials had a similar result.

    The article has all the links to the relevant papers by NEJM and so forth. I know the likely response is gonna be “But what about all that myocarditis?” Show me any evidence as of yet that whatever myocarditis is caused by the vaccine isn’t considerably lower than the myocarditis caused by COVID (which overall is fairly considerable). Admittedly, both are very, very rare in the case of children, thankfully, but if you or anyone else is going to make that claim about vaccines being a much greater risk, make an effort to prove it.

    Some 7.5 million children have come down with COVID as of last week, versus about 8.5 million vaccinations ages 5-11. (The age ranges in each cohort are different, so this is just back-of-envelope.) There were 100 serious reactions for the vaccinated, “most related to fever and vomiting. There were 10 reports of seizures (three of whom had a history of seizures already), and 9 reports of hospitalization in intensive care. During the survey period, two children died — girls ages 5 and 6 who had other underlying conditions and were already in ‘fragile health’ before the shots. The CDC said there was no data to link their deaths to the shots.”

    So even if we include the deaths of those two children (which really shouldn’t count), we’re talking several hundred deaths in the COVID death toll (or more precisely, whatever portion of those kids were 11 or younger) vs 2. And you want to claim the vaccines are a “much greater” risk?

    Whatever “hard sciences” background you claim to possess, I’m guessing numbers were never really your thing, else your game has really slipped.

  227. vinteuil says:
    @Paperback Writer

    I wouldn’t exactly call the FBI the left

    Well, yeah. Not exactly. Was the NKVD, at the height of its power, left wing?

    Mostly, they were just a bunch of sadistic maniacs.

  228. @Spect3r

    Fake morality. You are like a rabbit accusing a coyote of using its teeth. Is there a nation on Earth that would not have used the A-bomb if they’d had it? Would Belgium, Denmark, or Holland have nuked Hamburg in 1940 to dissuade the Germans, if they’d had the means? Certainly. A couple hundred thousand dead enemies in order to spare yourself a couple hundred thousand of your own people dead is not a trade-off that any rational government would turn down.
    Trying to deny your enemies the weapons you have yourself is not hypocritical, it’s simple good sense. Should we have shared the proximity fuse with Germany and Japan? Provided them with 115 octane aviation fuel? Given them the A-bomb?

    I’m not arguing pro or con Iran. I don’t see why we need to be enemies, but your argument is BS.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Spect3r
  229. @Kolya Krassotkin

    One way or another we are headed for a national divorce, and the United States could be broken up into several very nice smaller countries.

    3,929,214 — US population at 1790 Census
    3,959,353 — Oklahoma population at 2020 Census

    Oklahoma is the 28th most-populous state, comprising 1.18% of US total, including territories.

    38,246,108 — population of Canada, 2021

    The United States of 1790 would be a distant fifth among the provinces today, and fourth among Australian states.

    Canada is too big and diverse to govern today. As is California. Perhaps California could be divided into 13 States proportional to the original set. LA city has about the same proportion to the state as Virginia, the largest state, had to the US in 1790.

  230. vinteuil says:

    wow, HA – you’re hard core.

  231. @rebel yell

    Our security is at stake.
    We have options with Puerto Rico – keep it as a territory, make it a state, or cut it loose to become a nation. Whatever the right decision may be, it should be between us and the Puerto Ricans and none of Russia or China’s business.

    We should make it their business. The sooner PR is let loose, the better. They are dragging their feet, as is Uncle Sam. A little Chinese or Russian interference might be for the good.

  232. @rebel yell

    Suggest we learn to make microchips. I hear Flint, Michigan has some unused factory space available.

    Do those require water to make?

    Could ventiports be a selling point?

    • LOL: Paul Mendez
  233. vinteuil says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    Time is running out.

    Correction: time has run out.

  234. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:

    The quotation sounds at first like a funny Gawker/Mcsweeney’s style parody of the post-9/11 “We are all Americans now” (which warbloggers swiftly semi-ironically turned into “We are all [x] now” substituting whatever was the lede du jour). However, I have the sinking feeling the 16 persyns of the NYT editorial board are not aiming for snark, that this is operational as reality/emotion merged description. Zoomers, along with millennials trying to sound younger/more urgent, don’t really assign different value to poetic flourish and the drily factual in settings of public pronouncement

  235. ytcarl says:
    @ic1000

    Wow. That link —

    (https://www.revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/ Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web Of Unindicted Operators At The Heart Of January 6)

    — certainly makes a pretty strong case for Jan. 6 being an inside job. Lots and lots of video of suspicious hard men moving into position before the end of Trump’s speech, acting amongst the first trespassers, removing barricades and “No Access” signs, and directing and extorting the larger, arriving crowds with bullhorns. If there was a fascist insurrection that day (“The Day Democracy Almost Died”), then these guys look suspiciously like its ringleaders or stage managers. Why aren’t they in jail? Because they didn’t go into the Capitol building?

    Revolver asks if they might be undercover FBI operatives, since none of these hard-looking men were ever charged. (Though luckily the authorities caught that goober in a Viking hat, so America can rest easy.) They claim many criminal conspiracy cases that the FBI has been involved in have been overloaded with secret informants and operatives. “The Feds paid their bottomless roster of secret operatives a whopping \$548 million in 2020 alone,” says Revolver. But these guys weren’t picking up names and information for later prosecution, these guys were directing and channeling the crowd to break into the Capitol building.

    So what’s the truth? Will we ever know? I don’t like conspiracy theories, but this article has certainly made me wonder…

    • Agree: ic1000
  236. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    Assertions don’t impress me whether they’re from you or Yeadon, or people like Kostoff. If you want to claim things like that, show your work.

    But USA Today (your link) is the gold standard of medical science, huh?

    Or that awful bitch, Leanna Wen, Dr. Creepy-Smile Abortion lady?

    “In the U.S., no child has died from the vaccine, but over 600 have died from COVID,” Dr. Leana Wen, a professor of health policy and management at George Washington University,”

    Probably a lie. Most of those 600 probably died with COVID. And children have died of the vaccine. It just isn’t attributed to the vaccine.

    I am no more impressed with your sources than I am with you, you mendacious clown.

    Go crawl back into your sterile plastic bubble.

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
  237. JMcG says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Better get started then, hadn’t we?

    • LOL: Paul Mendez
  238. @HA

    Why the hell are you using things from the 1800s to talk about how government should be acting now? Have some dignity and self-respect. Demand better. Back in those times you had no rights as a worker, want to go back to that?

    • Replies: @HA
  239. @Inquiring Mind

    Was this a Mothra vs Godzilla fight between Monster Pharmas. I thought this was an indication if there was the least bit of anything wrong with any of the vaccines, boy would you hear about it. What is wrong with my reasoning?

    Do you use Instagram? One of the largest social media companies with 1 billion monthly active users? If you post anything, ANYTHING related to the vaccine, even if you mention something in an audio video, it will post a link to the CDC saying ‘vaccines are safe and effective’. A friend of a friend almost died from heart complications after his vaccine and he posted a picture from his hospital bed in New York City, and right beneath was that link to the CDC saying ‘vaccines are safe and effective’. If you spread “misinformation” about the vaccines (in their definition, even raising the possibility they are not effective or are harmful) you will get the link too, if you post it again you will be banned.

    That level of silencing and information control does not seem to indicate that TPTB are all for exposing any flaws with these vaccines. That’s what’s wrong with your reasoning.

  240. @stillCARealist

    It’s a power fantasy for them, I think. Remember that they hate us and they want to erase us from the universe. Remember that they want to destroy everything we and our ancestors have created. They’re willing to take a lot of risks, because they hate us very much and because they’re sure they’ll get it right this time. And I think that some of them, maybe most of them, really, really, really want to “rule an unruly peasantry” as part of that power fantasy. And by “rule” I mean “exterminate.”

  241. Bill says:
    @S

    That’s kinda true, though.

  242. Bill says:
    @JimDandy

    Murdering a protestor is misbehavior, so, yeah.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  243. Bill says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    With gigantic population movements? Every state is purple as hell.

  244. @Inquiring Mind

    Coronavirus does not actually produce the spike proteins. When you are infected your body does not make billions of spike proteins. The spiked are part of the virus which is very different from the spike proteins we produce when injected with the vaccines.

  245. @74v56ruthiyj

    Is there a nation on Earth that would not have used the A-bomb if they’d had it? A couple hundred thousand dead…

    It’s possible to use new weaponry without using it on noncombatant civilians. It’s called “civilization”.

    Let’s “unpack” Spect3r’s assertions:

    I find it hilarious, citizens (not to mention the government) of the ONLY country to ever have used Atomic Bomb are the ones trying to tell others who can or can’t have them.
    Hypocrisy much?

    I find it most amusing that today’s descendants of the other Allies feel a need to critique US militarism when it is mostly the creation of their elders. How was the Kaiser any worse than the King? Why was our mad president’s mad idea, the League of Nations, accepted by everyone else, but not our own Congress? Whi is there a street named after him in Paris?

    Why is it America’s business if some Tyrolean faggot with a weird, dyed mustache stirs up the rest of Europe? Why is a street in Paris named for his president? Why is our worst war criminal and terrorist honored on a common coin?

    the ONLY country to ever have used Atomic Bomb

    Neither atoms nor infinitives should be split in anger!

    Note that of the dozens of political parties that have had access to nuclear weaponry, only one has ever used it. On women and children. This is the party that the rest of the world roots for in our elections.

    • Agree: Spect3r
    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
  246. HA says:
    @Mina Horowitz

    “Why…are you using things from the 1800s to talk about how government should be acting now?”

    Because at some point — assuming humanity sticks around long enough — something else is coming down the pipes that will be just as lethal and just as contagious as smallpox is, or even worse, based on the last couple of thousand years of recorded history (not to mention the archeological record). Nature just keeps spitting viruses and plagues out, and it doesn’t care in the least about your sense of entitlement or your abject inability to learn the lessons of history (and come on, the 1800’s? you’re telling me you couldn’t even get the century right?)

    In any case, you’re not the star of this production, and you’re not the director, and if the only choice before you is having your whole family dying and agreeing to set up the modern day equivalent of leper colonies, the century we’re in is irrelevant. That being the case, what remains for us today is to haggle over how high the lethality has to be in order to justify this measure or that, and I’m fine with knowing that your vote counts as much as mine and that might mean that I get outvoted, or that I may be the one saying “this is far too restrictive”. I’m fine with having China outdo us in iron-fistedness. But I also know that once smallpox 2.0 comes around, there won’t be much in the way of wiggle room, or negotiation.

    We apologize for things like Auschwitz and slavery. And to that I say, yay for us. But no one, as far as I know, is beating themselves over the head about what happened to the lepers of Leviticus or those people in Boston. Most just look away and hope they never have to make those choices, even though it’s a safe bet that someday some of us will.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  247. @HA

    No one, as far as I know, is beating themselves over the head about what happened to the lepers of Leviticus…

    They are remembered in the name of a Minneapolis business:

    America’s least populous county is a retired leper colony. Biden won 95.8% of the vote there last year, an increase over Hillary. Perhaps they identified with his condition?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Hawaii#By_county

    • Thanks: HA
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  248. @Reg Cæsar

    It is not civilized to allow 200,000 of your own people to be killed in in an invasion in order to spare the lives of 200,000 of your enemies’ people, especially when that enemy has repeatedly demonstrated an absolute indifference to the lives of other nations’ civilians. And how is it that the life of a 19 year old American draftee is worth less than a 43 year old Japanese boatbuilder, or a 12 year old Japanese schoolgirl? Nations that had been slaughtering civilians from the start of the war have no beef when they are paid back with interest*.

    *That, btw, is why I never cared about 9/11. Our government asked for it. Sorry, New York, you got hammered for Israel. You were civilians, but so are most Palestinians. Not that I stay up nights worrying about them either.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Jack D
  249. @Jack D

    All within reason, all within reason. Yes, we can “none of our business” ourselves into a corner, but we can also “leader of the free world” ourselves into managing a global empire. How has that empire worked out for us? Perpetual wars, open borders, and population replacement in the home country.
    If we are going to not be the global “decider in chief”, that means someone else is going to decide some of this stuff, and like it or not that is going to be China and Russia.
    Where do you draw the line? For starters they can stay the “F” out of the western hemisphere. And Taiwan and Ukraine are not our problem. Japan is another subject. One problem at a time.
    This is an HBD site. It shouldn’t shock anyone that big fish are going to eat little fish. And it doesn’t mean we don’t have ethics. It just means that we make ethical decisions in the real world, not a hypothetical “family of nations” world.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  250. @Chrisnonymous

    Well, Chrisnonymous, what do you think about nation states? Are they obsolete? Since trade and technology are global, does that mean a particular people, tied to a geographic place, with their own culture, and possibly even governing themselves, is an 1823 idea that is past its time? That’s certainly what they are preaching on CNN.
    If you want nation states, then yes, there will be big nations and little ones, they will fight each other, and we will have to pick and choose our fights. Nations closer to our borders will be more important to us just because they are closer to our borders. The same will go for Russia and China.
    Does the global computer parts supply chain mean political government can’t be local and loyal to its own citizens?
    Great power influence is exactly what I want less of (which is why we should not get involved in Ukraine or Taiwan), but also something that is not going away, which is why we should hold on to power in our own little corner of the world.
    I wouldn’t worry about China taking over Canada. The United States once controlled Asia and the Pacific and the Chinese did a pretty good job of pushing us back out. We can do the same if they land in Vancouver.

  251. Travis says:
    @HA

    but the vaccines do not even prevent children from getting Covid so there is no benefit to vaccinating children but there are risks of adverse effects from the vaccines. Many nations have banned the Moderna vaccine for people under the age of 30 due to the increased risk of myocarditis.

    if the vaccines were 90% effective it could be argued that the vaccines have benefits. But Pfizer has admitted the efficacy falls below 50% after 6 months and the efficacy against the new variants is below 25%. The South African study found a two-shot course of Pfizer’s vaccine may have just 22% efficacy against symptomatic infection with the Omicron variant. This came after the drugmaker announced a 41-fold drop in the ability of the antibodies to neutralize the omicron variant compared with the original virus, a dramatic reduction from its performance against the original ancestral strain.

    • Replies: @HA
  252. Spect3r says:
    @74v56ruthiyj

    “Fake morality. You are like a rabbit accusing a coyote of using its teeth. Is there a nation on Earth that would not have used the A-bomb if they’d had it? Would Belgium, Denmark, or Holland have nuked Hamburg in 1940 to dissuade the Germans, if they’d had the means?”

    I actually doubt they used it, especially considering proximity, etc.

    “Trying to deny your enemies the weapons ”

    Please remind me again, why is Iran your enemy?

    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
  253. Spect3r says:
    @Peter Lund

    Ok, my bad on the US citizen thing.
    But my point is still valid, do you believe that the only country to have ever used it should be the one telling others who cant or cant have it?

  254. Spect3r says:
    @74v56ruthiyj

    Im sorry, i might be missing something, but why do you keep bringing up those 200k?
    When you dropped it on Japan, is not like Japan were a risk of going to invade you.
    Iran is not going to invade you either, nor attack you, so in what scenario are those 200k coming from?

    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
  255. duncsbaby says:
    @vinteuil

    It was set up by vainglorious Trump and his idiot followers were stage managed by the FBI & Capitol Police. Trump wanted to have a huge pity-party in D.C. and disappeared stage-left when all his bumptious minions were ushered into the Capitol building posing for photo-ops and smiley-selfies to later be used as evidence against them at a later date by the Democratic party controlled law enforcement and courts. There was plenty of idiocy that day, no insurrection at all but certainly not a victory for the right. The Left Establishment, as I predicted, has been dining out on this ever since.

  256. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Jack D

    99% dissent free isn’t good enough because Communist regimes are so weak and fragile that they genuinely cannot withstand 1% dissent. It’s perfectly rational.
    Broke: all of society’s formal security forces
    Woke: a disconnected rabble of losers who won’t shut up
    The joke is I’m entirely serious.

    Rational aside deliberately being Communist, of course.

  257. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Abolish_public_education

    The mortality statistics do show an uptick during ncov season.

    Except for tweens and teens, who showed a significant decline in mortality.

    Coronaviruses are lethal to the old and otherwise infirm. Schools kill nearly as many extra as a “pandemic,” but they instead kill otherwise healthy children.

    Around 30,000 children are killed a year worldwide by school-mediated suicide alone. Just in case you still had any doubt about lockdown mandates having anything to do with public health.

  258. @Barnard

    Of all the people born after 1955 who instantly recognize the name Emmett Till, how many know the name Cash Gernon? Cannon Hinnant? Landen Hoffman? Channon Christian?

    Thought so.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  259. @74v56ruthiyj

    In other words, the ends justify the means.

    Truman lied when he called America a Christian country.

    to be killed in in an invasion

    When were 200,000 Americans ever under threat of being killed in an invasion? The God you reject gave us oceans. The only parts of the country invaded were outlying territories, most of which we stole from foreign crowns anyway.

    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
  260. AndrewR says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    TDS is a mirror image of Trumpism, which is equally retarded, albeit objectively less damgerous. Trump was the president America deserved, and now Biden is.

  261. Mark G. says:
    @HA

    Show me any evidence as of yet that whatever myocarditis is caused by the vaccine isn’t considerably lower than the myocarditis caused by COVID (which overall is fairly considerable).

    https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/uk-now-reports-myocarditis-stratified

    • Replies: @HA
  262. @Mr. Anon

    I agree completely with your fake on this. Despite delving regularly into rightwing media, I was only vaguely aware of QAnon in early 2020, and that was only because Vox Day mentioned it. Then, late in the summer of 2020 I started hearing progressive acquaintances speak feverishly about it, mainly about the Comet Pizza pedo ring and politicians drinking the blood of infants. It validated the contempt they cherish for Trump supporters, most of whom they assumed were QAnon devotees.

    Even among those who took QAnon seriously, how many actually subscribed to the most extreme claims? Rather than actually believe that Hillary drank the blood of babies, they thought that Hillary was the sort of person who would drink the blood of babies if she thought it would get her into power. It’s rather like Charles Colson saying he would “walk over my own grandmother” to ensure the reelection of Richard Nixon–it’s a metaphor, not a literal statement.

    Try to get progressives to entertain the possibility that QAnon was a COINTELPRO job. They cannot. They are incapable of doubting the Narrative.

    The fact that the government has not identified and arrested whoever was behind QAnon suggests that the government was behind it, just as the fact that “Umbrella Men” in Minneapolis was never arrested suggests he was a fed.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  263. Mr. Anon says:
    @HA

    Assertions don’t impress me whether they’re from you or Yeadon, or people like Kostoff. If you want to claim things like that, show your work.

    But USA Today (your link) is a highly trusted source for medical science. Or Creepy-Smile Abortion Doctor Lady, Leana Wen:

    “In the U.S., no child has died from the vaccine, but over 600 have died from COVID,” Dr. Leana Wen, a professor of health policy and management at George Washington University, said in an email. “

    I don’t believe a word she says. She is probably talking about children dying with COVID, rather than from it – the usual conflation that these liars make.

    Meanwhile children have actually died from taking the vaccines, your shilling for Big Pharma not-withstanding.

    Assertions by raving COVID hysterics don’t impress me very much.

  264. @Harry Baldwin

    I agree completely with your fake on this.

    I meant “take.”

  265. HA says:
    @Travis

    if the vaccines were 90% effective it could be argued that the vaccines have benefits.

    Since they reduce the death toll by about a factor of 10, thanks for agreeing with me that the “vaccines have benefits”. I’m not sure where that 90% you decreed came from, but I also suspect it wouldn’t change anything.

  266. HA says:
    @Mark G.

    Did you read that link your blogger referenced before passing that along?

    If you had done that, you would have seen the following:

    We estimated an extra two (95% confidence interval (CI) 0, 3), one (95% CI 0, 2) and six (95% CI 2, 8) myocarditis events per 1 million people vaccinated with ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively, in the 28 days following a first dose and an extra ten (95% CI 7, 11) myocarditis events per 1 million vaccinated in the 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273. This compares with an extra 40 (95% CI 38, 41) myocarditis events per 1 million patients in the 28 days following a SARS-CoV-2 positive test.

    Last I checked, the numbers 2, 1, 6, and 10 — even when added together — are a much smaller number than 40. In other words, with any combination of the vaccines considered, the myocarditis risk from those vaccines is significantly LOWER than the myocarditis risk from coronavirus itself.

    Thanks for making my case for me.

    In the “updated” link he references, that supposedly turns everything around, we actually have the following:

    In an updated self-controlled case series analysis of 42,200,614 people aged 13 years or more, we evaluate the association between COVID-19 vaccination and myocarditis, stratified by age and sex, including 10,978,507 people receiving a third vaccine dose. Myocarditis risk was increased during 1-28 days following a third dose of BNT162b2 (IRR 2.02, 95%CI 1.40, 2.91). Associations were strongest in males younger than 40 years for all vaccine types with an additional 3 (95%CI 1, 5) and 12 (95% CI 1,17) events per million estimated in the 1-28 days following a first dose of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; 14 (95%CI 8, 17), 12 (95%CI 1, 7) and 101 (95%CI 95, 104) additional events following a second dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; and 13 (95%CI 7, 15) additional events following a third dose of BNT162b2, compared with 7 (95%CI 2, 11) additional events following COVID-19 infection. An association between COVID-19 infection and myocarditis was observed in all ages for both sexes but was substantially higher in those older than 40 years.

    So, actually, with one exception (second dose for mRNA-1273, i.e. Moderna), the vaccines are still significantly lower in terms of myocarditis. Thanks so much for this helpful update/clarification and PSA on behalf of the Pfizer and other alternative choices — I was under the impression that the just-a-flu-bros REALLY hated that company in particular. Did Pfizer or their lobbyists pay for this update directly, I wonder? In any case, if that’s the vaccine that keeps the myocarditis risk lower, I strongly urge any parents who choose to vaxx their kids and who are worried about myocarditis to stick with that over the Moderna. (Note all these risk assessments may change with the arrival of Omicron — maybe that has a substantially lower myocarditis risk, so that needs to be taken into account.)

    That being said, I predict Moderna is going to follow up with a larger trial in submitting their paperwork for vaxxing teens to the FDA, and if it doesn’t give your blogger the results he’s being paid by the likes of you to publish, that updated dataset will be completely ignored. In other words, I’m not sure where coronavirus is going to be in the next couple of months, but I think I have your expert pretty much figured out, and all it took me was two paragraphs.

    And to the extent your expert then wants us to believe that the “true” number of infections is whatever it needs to be in order to skew the data so as to conform to his biases, let him put that in another paper and publish it with the regular peer review and so forth as the original authors he is citing did. Otherwise, his approach is about as convincing as assuming every single entry in VAERS was 100% due to vaccines.

    • Replies: @HA
    , @Jack D
  267. HA says:
    @HA

    Oh, wait, I see they downgraded their myocarditis risk to only 7 in the update. Definitely, my bad — sorry for that. I would however, point to the following paragraph in the conclusion:

    There are some limitations we should acknowledge. First, the number of people receiving a third dose of ChAdOx1, or mRNA-1273 vaccine was too small to evaluate the risk of
    myocarditis. Second, we relied on hospital admission codes and death certification to define
    myocarditis, and it is possible that we have over or underestimated risk, due to misclassification. Third, although we were able to include 2,136,189 children aged 13 to 17 years old in this analysis, the number of myocarditis events was too small (n=43 in all periods and n=15 in the 1-28 days post vaccination) in this population and precluded an evaluate of risk.
    Given our observation that risk is largely confined to males under the age of 40 years further
    research is needed pooling data from international studies to evaluate further the risks in
    children.

    So it’s a small sample — which presumably means the updated denominator is likewise subject to change — and as noted, I’d wait and see what the FDA says, since they historically are more stringent about allowing medications than European agencies (that’s why Thalidomide babies never happened in the US — the drug wasn’t able to make it past the FDA protocols. People like you who indignantly demand that the FDA allow dexametha-whatever the way the Brits do should keep that in mind.) As of now, Pfizer has gotten EUA for children whereas Moderna is still gathering participants.

    But it’s at least a worthy counter-response given the update, so I’ll reference it from here on out, and thanks for that. The USAToday story I cited earlier — which has links to actual scientific papers detailing a much larger dataset than the one this paper is based on and which tells a much different story than this study does given that there are ZERO myocarditis (or any other) deaths in children so far, except possibly two which aren’t related to the vaccines according to the CDC, but I realize anti-vaxxers don’t like referencing datasets that don’t conform to their ideology so it’s no wonder you cited that smaller study in an effort to refute the subsequent larger one. So in that sense, this is kind of typical.

    • Replies: @HA
  268. HA says:
    @HA

    There’s also this, published a day earlier than the update, in which the UK government now recommends children to be given the PFIZER vaccine exclusively.

    So yeah, way to go — if you were hoping to increase Pfizer’s bottom line, you did a good job there, buddy, but if that means fewer kids die of myocarditis, well, good for you.

    We’ll see how any of this advice on young boys changes with respect to the update (not to mention Omicron itself), especially once this update passes peer-review, which hasn’t happened yet.

    Here’s the Twitter account of the lead researcher if anyone wants to follow this:

    https://twitter.com/martinapatone/

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  269. Jack D says:
    @74v56ruthiyj

    If 9/11 was about Israel, why were none of the hijackers Palestinians? Why in all their subsequent fighting Al Qaeda killed mostly their fellow Muslims but no Israelis?

    Did Sayyid Qutb and the Muslim Brotherhood hate America because of the “depravity” that he saw in Tel Aviv or because of what he saw in Greeley, Colorado?

    https://www.5280.com/2010/08/al-qaedas-greeley-roots/

    The hijackers in their own words objected mainly to the presence of America troops on the holy soil of Saudi Arabia, where most of them were from. Sure they expressed solidarity with Palestinians – that’s pretty routine among Arabs and Leftists but it doesn’t mean a thing.

    Endlessly reciting the lie that American wars are “for Israel” doens’t make it true. Did we fight the 1st Iraq war “for Israel” or for Kuwait and their oil ? Did we fight in Afghanistan “for Israel”? Look at a map. If Israel disappeared (as I suppose you wish it would) America would still have strategic interests in the Middle East and Muslim fanatics would still hate the West.

    • Agree: Art Deco
    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
  270. Jack D says:
    @HA

    Thanks for the valiant effort but you should know by now that your not going to make any progress with anti-vaxxers. If you shoot them down on one point, they have 10 more excuses.

    They can always fudge the math to say that you are not taking into account the FUTURE effects of the vaccine which we are going to see any day now (or better still that the vaccine will take years off the END of your life so we won’t know the true extent of the hidden and invisible damage these vaccine spike proteins (but somehow not the spike proteins attached to the virus itself) are doing until 30 or 40 years from now so that’s how long they are going to wait to get the vaccine).

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @vinteuil
    , @vinteuil
  271. Jack D says:
    @rebel yell

    For starters they can stay the “F” out of the western hemisphere.

    The way that the Russians used to stay out of Cuba, 90 miles from Florida? If Putin could put the USSR back together again (his fondest dream and something he would gladly act upon if we ceded those territories to the Russian sphere of influence as he is already requesting and which you apparently think we should agree to) don’t you think he would want to restore the “friendly” ties between the people of Cuba and the people of Russia again?

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/whats-an-advanced-russian-warship-doing-in-havana-harbor

    Haven’t you learned anything from the history of appeasement? If you give a dictator all that he wants, his response is not “thank you so much – I’ll never ask you for anything again”. He sees appeasement as weakness and a signal that he should come back for more bites of the apple. When dictators push you, they are testing to see whether you are weak and so the worst thing you can do is give in to their demands.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
  272. Mark G. says:
    @Jack D

    Many people, like myself, would agree with someone like Dr. Peter McCullough that deaths could have been reduced by up to 85% if early treatment protocols hadn’t been blocked by the government in order to eliminate competition for Big Pharma patented drugs and vaccines. Vaccine proponents present a false dichotomy when they say the only alternatives are vaccines or high death rates.

    The argument is made that young people at low risk should be forcibly vaccinated so they won’t catch Covid and pass it on to old people who are in the high risk category. It’s morally questionable, though, to potentially sacrifice the health of young people in order to protect older people near the end of their lives. This is especially true since older people can get vaccinated and will be largely protected from death. It will be even more true in the future that younger people don’t need to be forcibly vaccinated if the dominant variant is mild and can bypass the vaccine anyway.

    I’ve worked for a government agency, the Defense Department, for forty years and have seen how government contractors and the top military brass and civilian management enrich themselves by using political pull and propaganda to increase spending way beyond what is needed. What is true for my agency would be just as true for any other government agency. That includes the FDA, NIH and CDC.

  273. @Jack D

    2nd, the people who are reproducing are even WORSE than the woke. …

    So what we will get is not fewer Woke people but the stupidification of the Woke like that black nurse lady who now writes editorials for Scientific American. It’s only a short step for the cat ladies who are now the editors of SA to be replaced by people like the nurse lady so SA will not only be Woke but Woke and (even more) stupid.

    Yep.

    It’s interesting that on even here–with HBD, Steve’s main different-than-the-norm draw–people love to talk about anything and everything but demographics.

    The main thing that will be making my children’s, grandchildren’s … my posterity’s lives worse is simply shittier demographics.

    I have a lot of hope that a bunch of the factors driving the current “open borders!” insanity will mitigate and my posterity will be spared a download of the African population surplus and the full collapse of civilized life here.

    But even without that, our slump toward Brazil–the loss of the America that could have been absent minoritarian, and particularly immigration, insanity–is already baked and pretty damn sad.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
  274. @HA

    The first crack in the “vax everyone all the time” wall, and it’s the head of the UK government’s vaccine advisory body.

    I’ve had three jabs in nine months, and covid infections are at record levels in the highly-vaccinated UK.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10366875/Leading-Oxford-vaccine-expert-warns-giving-regular-boosters-not-sustainable.html

    Britain shouldn’t start rolling out fourth Covid vaccines until there is more evidence they are even needed, one of the country’s top experts claimed today.

    Sir Andrew Pollard, chair of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) — which advises No10, said administering booster vaccines to everyone every six months was ‘not sustainable’.

    He said future immunisation drives should target the most vulnerable, rather than all adults.

    Israel has already approved fourth doses for over-60s, while German health officials have warned a second booster will be required to manage Omicron.

    The UK last month ordered 114million more Pfizer and Moderna doses over the next two years to ‘future-proof’ the vaccination drive, but it is not yet clear how these will be used.

    Sir Andrew, who previously insisted boosters might not be needed, said: ‘The future must be focusing on the vulnerable and making boosters or treatments available to them to protect them.

    ‘We know people have strong antibodies for a few months after their third vaccine —but more data are needed to assess whether, when and how often those who are vulnerable will need additional doses.’

    He added: ‘We can’t vaccinate the planet every four-six months. It’s not sustainable or affordable. In the future, we need to target the vulnerable.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
  275. Corvinus says:
    @Altai

    “A bit like how Iran is always a months away from getting nukes and destroying NYC or London.”

    Or how the right will show irrefutable evidence that the election was stolen.

    • Agree: Athenian Gentleman
  276. Corvinus says:
    @S. Anonyia

    “I said this on here months ago. The intelligence agencies combined several different semi-credible conspiracy theories that had been floating around online since the 2000s, made them more outlandish, and turned them into one unified mega-theory under QAnon circa 2017.”

    Ok, so you said it. That doesn’t mean it’s true or it’s accurate.

  277. @Getaclue

    people like you pretend not to know or see this,

    Pretend? You may be convinced that my perspective is wrong, but why do you assume it is not sincerely held?

  278. HA says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “The first crack in the ‘vax everyone all the time’ wall, and it’s the head of the UK government’s vaccine advisory body.”

    First crack, you say? No, that’s been an ongoing worry for some time for those willing to step outside their echo chambers — even the third booster had pushback. This is from the New York Times as of Christmas Eve, as reprinted in JapanTimes (I think Drudge linked to it, too):

    JERUSALEM – Israel is considering whether to approve a fourth COVID-19 vaccine dose for vulnerable people to contain the fast-spreading omicron variant, despite debate among scientists and a lack of evidence either for or against another booster.

    The panel of experts advising the Israeli government on the pandemic recognized that uncertainty, but on Tuesday it recommended giving a fourth dose,…But some scientists warned that the plan could backfire, because too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body’s ability to fight the coronavirus. A few members of the government’s advisory panel raised that concern with respect to the elderly, according to a written summary of the discussion obtained by The New York Times.

  279. @Jack D

    Without our entanglement with Israel, we wouldn’t have troops on the ground in the Middle East. We would buy their oil and sell them arms and leave it at that. We wouldn’t care if Iraq or Kuwait sold us the oil that lies in that corner. As it was, Iraq was Israel’s noisiest enemy, so we eventually took them out over imaginary WMDs.

  280. @Reg Cæsar

    200,000 Americans would likely have died invading Japan. Unless we just starved them out, killing millions of them. Or unless you’d be content with letting them say “My bad”, and letting it go at that.

    And no, I do not reject God.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  281. @Spect3r

    A non-nuclear Nazi Germany invades a nuclear armed Holland in 1940, and the Dutchmen would not have used the bomb? Right.

    Iran is not my enemy, as ought to be clear from my comment.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  282. @Spect3r

    It seems that you are suggesting that we ought not have forced Japan to surrender. A return to status quo ante? OK. That’s a valid point of view. Ought we then also have stopped killing Germans once we pushed the Wehrmacht east of the Rhine?

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  283. Spect3r says:
    @74v56ruthiyj

    What i am suggesting is that targeting civilians is not ok, especially with a weapon of that magnitude.
    Is wrong in every aspect, morally, ethical and every other word you wanna use.
    Then there is my original point, that is, should the only country to ever use Atomic weapons to attack others, be the one deciding who can or can not have them? Dont you find it at least a bit hypocrit?

    • Replies: @TWS
    , @74v56ruthiyj
  284. Spect3r says:
    @74v56ruthiyj

    Would USA use an Atomic weapon on some Canadian city within the same distance of the US border as is from Amsterdam to the Netherlands border with Germany?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @74v56ruthiyj
  285. @74v56ruthiyj

    And no, I do not reject God.

    If you categorically reject “just war” constraints, your understanding of Him is closer to Islamic than Christian. (Or perhaps Jewish.)

    200,000 Americans would likely have died invading Japan.

    There was no need to do this. The demand for “unconditional surrender”, i.e., “We get to rape your women”, was worse than unnecessary. There were other avenues to ending the war.

    Progressives couldn’t pay me enough to defend their war crimes and other atrocities. You seem to be carrying their water pro bono.

    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
  286. @Spect3r

    What kind of precedent did we set? There are other ways to use nuclear weapons than dropping them on schools and churches. Just as with conventional aerial bombing. (How old was this “convention” in 1945?)

    Nuclear weapons have aftereffects, but so do regular bombs and land mines. Especially when they don’t go off.

  287. MB says:

    The problem with the J6 riot is that our wannabe Bolsheviks in training don’t want it to receive the equal treatment all the other Brandon Lives Matter riots received, even those in front of the White House. As in turning a blind eye.

    They actually want to prosecute people responsible for the riots, along with a lot of ordinary folks really just peacefully protesting. Unarmed during daylight hours even, not just after 10 pm.

    Another problem is, it now seems highly likely that this riot had more than it’s “fair share” – it’s all about equity, remember – of FBI agent provocateurs and corresponding incitement and entrapment.

    Other than that, this riot was not properly multicultural and yeah, therefore automatically suspect and fair game when it comes to waiving the 6th Amendment.

    IOW it’s a one of, a black swan and we just might need to fall back on more politically approved riots in order to blot out the indelible stain of this one on J6.

    “Ya gotta nice country there. It’d be a shame if we had to burn it down.”

  288. JimDandy says:
    @Bill

    The bobos’ hired hands did the murdering that day.

  289. @Jack D

    It’s not always appeasement. Buchanan makes a good case for staying out of Ukraine.

    https://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/russia-is-not-the-great-rival-china-is/

  290. vinteuil says:
    @Jack D

    Thanks for the valiant effort but you should know by now that your not going to make any progress with anti-vaxxers.

    Wow, Jack D – you & HA, sittin’ in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.

    Is Brett Weinstein an “anti-vaxxer?” Is Robert Malone an “anti-vaxxer?”

  291. vinteuil says:
    @Jack D

    They can always fudge the math to say that you are not taking into account the FUTURE effects of the vaccine which we are going to see any day now (or better still that the vaccine will take years off the END of your life so we won’t know the true extent of the hidden and invisible damage these vaccine spike proteins (but somehow not the spike proteins attached to the virus itself) are doing until 30 or 40 years from now so that’s how long they are going to wait to get the vaccine).

    Let me repeat that:

    the FUTURE effects of the vaccine which we are going to see any day now

    Let me emphasize:

    which we are going to see any day now

    My friend: there is, quite literally, nobody among the vaccine skeptics who says that the possible future effects of the vaccine will be seen “any day now.”

    Presumably, you know that. I mean, you’re a highly educated lawyer – right?

    So why do you spout such crap?

    • Replies: @HA
  292. HA says:
    @vinteuil

    “My friend: there is, quite literally, nobody among the vaccine skeptics who says that the possible future effects of the vaccine will be seen ‘any day now.’”

    Dream on. Here’s a few that I myself have answered:

    So many deaths, and the impacts from the Covid vax are just getting started.

    This winter is gonna be off the everloving hook, I am super excited to witness mass slaughter of Vax Covidians.

    I am really really really looking forward to watching Vax Covidians die this winter, suffocating under a facediaper in their home or a hospital. I can’t wait! I can’t wait!

    … everywhere there isn’t a CDC to enforce industrial scale lying we are seeing reports of massive numbers of Vxd in Hospitals/Dying…The reason winter is mentioned [as the time when this mass die-off will really get going] is because it is when Cold Season arrives in full — it is nearly here and yes we will be seeing massive Vxd ADE deaths and more Clotting injuries/deaths tying up Hospitals — Clotting injuries are flooding ER Rooms now…

    By my calendar, winter has been around since Dec 21. So yeah, unless the truthers have revised their timeline, that works out to any day now. What, you’re trying to tell me you were all talking about NEXT winter?

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  293. TWS says:
    @Spect3r

    Nope. If you had the big stick I guarantee your country would use it in a declared war. We could have stomped any rival from Japan to Moscow. We could have been the sole world superpower from 1945 on ward. Chew on that a while.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  294. Spect3r says:
    @TWS

    Is it the “nope” your answer to the hypocrisy part?

    • Replies: @TWS
  295. @Reg Cæsar

    The alternative to bombing them into surrender was blockading them until they starved or quit. A lot more Japanese would have died that way. Of course, as soon as they announced that they would accept the terms of the Potsdam Ultimatum, we stopped bombing them altogether. Hey, the ball was in their court all along.

    And no, unconditional surrender does not mean “We rape all your women”.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  296. @Spect3r

    If I recall my Geneva Convention correctly, those who use civilians as a shield are responsible for their deaths, not the soldiers who actually kill them. If the only way to stop the Japanese war machine was by burning their country to the ground, well, they shouldn’t have been so monstrously evil. And those killed by A-bombs are no deader than those killed by 500 lb bombs, or those Chinese tied up and thrown into rivers or POWs burned alive in the Philippines.

    And I don’t find it the least bit hypocritical. Ought we say, “Go ahead everybody, build nukes”? Should we want Iran to have nukes? Does a decision made by Harry Truman in 1945 mean that we somehow have no business opposing the further spread of nuclear weapons in 2022?

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  297. @Spect3r

    Why not? We set off dozens of A-bombs and H-bombs right here in the US, just down the road from Las Vegas.

    Look, it’s not as if I like A-bombs or dead Japanese. Their government decided from the outset to attack other countries and kill millions of civilians, and to fight as dirty as possible. They set the rules of engagement, their people in uniform fought by those rules, and all their people paid for it. And unlike the Japanese, we did not kill and rape them when the fighting was done. They have no grievance.

    So put the girlish finger pointing aside.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
  298. Spect3r says:
    @74v56ruthiyj

    “Why not? We set off dozens of A-bombs and H-bombs right here in the US, just down the road from Las Vegas.”

    But you didn’t drop it on civilians.

    And you are not addressing my original point.
    Do you or do you not believe is a bit hypocrite of the only country to ever used an atomic bomb being the one saying to others who can or cant have them.

  299. Spect3r says:
    @74v56ruthiyj

    Oh, you answered on this one… please, ignore my question on the previous comment.

    Whats the difference that makes it ok for Pakistan, Israel, etc to have nuclear weapons but not Iran?

  300. vinteuil says:
    @HA

    Well, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised – there’s never any limit to the stupidity one can find on the internet.

    But – and here’s the point: the future effects of the vaccines remain unknown. And they will remain unknown…for years.

  301. MEH 0910 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    SCTV – Ben Hur

    “He did say leopards.”

  302. MEH 0910 says:

  303. @MM

    Neither Saddam nor the Iran of 1979-2003 were former US allies. The ayatollahs disposed of the US ally (the Palavi dynasty), and the USA never had any kind of relationship other than hostile with revolutionary Iran. His comment is still incoherent and incorrect.
    As for the USA failing to follow its interests, that’s like saying a schizophrenic doesn’t always do what one personality prefers. The USA just takes 4-8 years to switch personalities.

    But yes, the rational agent model is one of foreign policy analysis’s greater failures.

  304. @Inquiring Mind

    “the vaccines are generating the same spike protein as the actual virus”

    “The same as the actual virus”?
    How do you know? And how could this be possible? ☮

  305. @74v56ruthiyj

    And no, unconditional surrender does not mean “We rape all your women”.

    Not raping the loser’s women is a condition, isn’t it? And, indeed, we’ve been raping them for seventy-five years:

    20-year-old Rina Shimabukuro Raped and Killed by Former US Marine

    Navy seaman describes rape of Japanese girl; Says other two servicemen helped

    MARINE IN SLAY SUICIDE – WAS JAILED FOR ‘95 CHILD RAPE

    • Replies: @JMcG
  306. JMcG says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It started right after the war. The remains of three marines were pulled from a cave on Okinawa in 1998. They’d been dumped in there by villagers tired of having their daughters raped on a nightly basis back in 1945.
    They were all black too. Attached to a logistics outfit.

  307. bomag says:
    @Jack D

    The video has led me to believe there might be such a thing as a Zionist Rabbi.

  308. @Jack D

    Jewish Rabbi

    Is there any other kind?

    The rabbis in Zion are Gentiles.

    What It’s Like Being Jewish in Utah

    This offended them:

    [MORE]

  309. @Colin Wright

    All chicks are like that. Most fatties and chicks who are aged past their stale dates are enraged no one hits on them and are the source of most workplace harassment suits. As to AOC, she’s skinny and so has been treated like a princess for so long, they think they’re supremely entitled, but the bar is low because of the obesity factor in 80 percent of American women today, not to mention tatts and piercings and ugly, multi-colored hair.

  310. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    For posterity, the tweets jpeg text:

    Bleppstein von Sama @amasppelb
    Another way to depolarize society (this worked in Finland) is where you have a huge civil war and simply kill all your enemies in battle and execute all their leaders, seizing control of the state.

    Ben Shapiro @benshapiro
    If you want to de-polarize American society, begin with a simple task: say publicly that someone you totally disagree with politics, someone who voted for the other guy, is a nice human being and people should give them a read or listen.

  311. Spect3r says:
    @TWS

    Fair enough, we will just agree to disagree then.

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