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From The Guardian:

Malena Ernman on daughter Greta Thunberg: ‘She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness’

A new book by Greta Thunberg’s mother reveals the reality of family life during her daughter’s transformation from bullied teenager to climate icon

by Malena Ernman

When I was pregnant with Greta, and working in Germany, Svante was acting at three different theatres in Sweden simultaneously. I had several years of binding contracts ahead of me at various opera houses all over Europe. With 1,000km between us, we talked over the phone about how we could get our new reality to work.

“You’re one of the best in the world at what you do,” Svante said. “And as for me, I am more like a bass player in the Swedish theatre and can very easily be replaced. Not to mention you earn so damned much more than I do.” I protested a little half-heartedly but the choice was made.

A few weeks later we were at the premiere for Don Giovanni at the Staatsoper in Berlin and Svante explained his current professional status to Daniel Barenboim and Cecilia Bartoli.

“So now I’m a housewife.”

We carried on like that for 12 years. It was arduous but great fun. We spent two months in each city and then moved on. Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona. Round and round. We spent the summers in Glyndebourne, Salzburg or Aix-en-Provence. As you do when you’re good at singing opera and other classical music. I rehearsed 20 to 30 hours a week and the rest of the time we spent together.

Beata was born three years after Greta and we bought a Volvo V70 so we’d have room for doll’s houses, teddy bears and tricycles. Those were fantastic years. Our life was marvellous.

One evening in the autumn of 2014, Svante and I sat slumped on our bathroom floor in Stockholm. It was late, the children were asleep. Everything was starting to fall apart around us. Greta was 11, had just started fifth grade, and was not doing well. She cried at night when she should be sleeping. She cried on her way to school. She cried in her classes and during her breaks, and the teachers called home almost every day. Svante had to run off and bring her home to Moses, our golden retriever. She sat with him for hours, petting him and stroking his fur. She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness and little by little, bit by bit, she seemed to stop functioning. She stopped playing the piano. She stopped laughing. She stopped talking. And she stopped eating.

… Six months after Greta received her diagnosis, life has levelled out into something that resembles an everyday routine. She has started at a new school. I’ve cleared my calendar and put work on the back burner. But while we’re full up with taking care of Greta, Beata’s [Greta’s ignored younger sister] having more and more of a tough time. In school everything is ticking along. But at home she falls apart, crashes. She can’t stand being with us at all any more. Everything Svante and I do upsets her and in our company she can lose control. She is clearly is not feeling well.

One day near her 11th birthday I find her standing in the living room, hurling DVDs from the bookshelf down the spiral staircase to the kitchen. “You only care about Greta. Never about me. I hate you, Mum.” …

In school one day, Greta’s class watches a film about how much rubbish there is in the oceans. An island of plastic, larger than Mexico, is floating around in the South Pacific. Greta cries throughout the film. Her classmates are also clearly moved. Before the lesson is over the teacher announces that on Monday there will be a substitute teaching the class, because she’s going to a wedding over the weekend, in Connecticut, right outside of New York. “Wow, lucky you,” the pupils say. Out in the corridor the trash island off the coast of Chile is already forgotten. New iPhones are taken out of fur-trimmed down jackets, and everyone who has been to New York talks about how great it is, with all those shops, and Barcelona has amazing shopping too, and in Thailand everything is so cheap, and someone is going with her mother to Vietnam over the Easter break, and Greta can’t reconcile any of this with any of what she has just seen.

She saw what the rest of us did not want to see. It was as if she could see our CO2 emissions with her naked eye. The invisible, colourless, scentless, soundless abyss that our generation has chosen to ignore. She saw all of it – not literally, of course, but nonetheless she saw the greenhouse gases streaming out of our chimneys, wafting upwards with the winds and transforming the atmosphere into a gigantic, invisible garbage dump.

She was the child, we were the emperor. And we were all naked.

‘You celebrities are basically to the environment what anti immigrant politicians are to multicultural society,” Greta says at the breakfast table early in 2016. I guess it’s true. Not just of celebrities, but of the vast majority of people. Everyone wants to be successful, and nothing conveys success and prosperity better than luxury, abundance and travel, travel, travel.

Greta scrolls through my Instagram feed. She’s angry. “Name a single celebrity who’s standing up for the climate! Name a single celebrity who is prepared to sacrifice the luxury of flying around the world!”

I was a part of the problem myself. Only recently I had been posting sun-drenched selfies from Japan. One “Good morning from Tokyo” and tens of thousands of “likes” rolled in to my brand-new iPhone. Something started to ache inside of me. Something I’d previously called travel anxiety or fear of flying but which was now taking on another, clearer form. On 6 March 2016 I flew home from a concert in Vienna, and not long after that I decided to stay on the ground for good.

Anyway, then Greta takes up climate activism and her parents find that it is good therapy for her mental illnesses, so they are proud of her.

One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally.

Another question is whether Greta is directly descended from 1903 Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius, inventor of the Greenhouse Theory, or merely related to him.

She seems to embody in her stunted form so many of the mental travails plaguing the 21st Century world. During the ongoing Crisis of Whiteness, Greta is the Whitest person in the world.

 
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  1. No mention by mum of how much she used to drink while pregnant with Greta.

    • Agree: Daniel H, Bubba, WHAT
  2. • Agree: Old Prude, Kronos
    • LOL: A123, Prester John
    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    One of the things that becomes clear when you talk to people about global warming is that huge numbers of people are too stupid to understand the different kinds of pollution and so conflate greenhouse gas emissions with things like ocean dumping.
    , @PaceLaw
    Quite hilarious! Seems like Greta’s a racist, doesn’t it?
    , @SafeNow
    (Re: Cartoon of India and China polluting)

    That reducing carbon emissions is impossible is known to everyone, according to what the Wall St. Journal’s factual Holman Jenkins recently wrote. He wrote that “everyone“ (or “everybody“, I can’t recall which) already knows that the only possible solution lies in geoengineering. An irony: Greta has her yacht, and the global-warming answer might be the so-called misting yachts, increasing the earth’s albedo.
    , @Hong Xiu Quan
    The argument usually given is per capita pollution, and they do have a point. India and China may pollute more overall but this is because of their large populations, most people there still live a very modest lifestyle.

    The China pollution is also raised by the fact that they make goods for Western consumers, and if all factories making goods for Westwrners were moved back to the West, Chinese pollution levels would plummet. In fact this is one of the rationales behind moving factories to China and other Third World countries (China is no longer Third World, but it was when factories were moved there), plentiful supply of cheap labour and lax environmental protection laws. It costs way less money to just dump the waste than it does to dispose of it in a responsible manner. The former is not possible on Western nations because of strict laws.
  3. One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally.

    Did Greta’s parents really become mentally ill, though, or are they just doing a massive job of humoring her? With kids, some people do have to make big sacrifices. It’s hard to keep up with a busy schedule at Opera venues around the world with a catamaran. Though at least Malena sacrificed her jet-setting career, I wonder if Svante and Malena really believe the CO2-will-be-the-death-of-us hype at all. They likely sacrificed for Greta and the little one, rather than for Mother Gaia.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "at least Malena sacrificed her jet-setting career"

    Unfortunately, 11 years too late. They did it for 12 years, starting when Malena was pregnant with Greta. Not so bad with a baby or toddler, but at school age imagine either

    a) being abandoned by your parents for two months at a time - not once, but several times a year for maybe seven or eight years

    b) moving cities and schools every two months - never, ever, being able to develop close friendships with other children - or in the event that you do, leaving again, and when you return in a year they've moved on and have other friends

    She'd have been better off in a boarding school where she'd have made friends with other girls.

    She's been robbed of her childhood - but not by Donald Trump.
  4. How dare you! Lol! So basically, she’s the Western equivalent of child idiot saints of Hinduism? Including exploitation by the family?

    • Replies: @gate666
    stop bullying a child.
  5. Another question is whether Greta is directly descended from 1903 Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius, inventor of the Greenhouse Theory, or merely related to him.

    Huh, that’d be a hoot. Speaking of greenhouses, working in one for a few years doing manual labor taking care of the greenery is probably one thing that would make Greta Betta.

    • Agree: sayless, Fox
    • Replies: @black sea
    It's amazing how much being physically tired at the end of the day contributes to mental health.
    , @Liza

    Huh, that’d be a hoot. Speaking of greenhouses, working in one for a few years doing manual labor taking care of the greenery is probably one thing that would make Greta Betta.

     

    Greenhouse work would be good. But working right outdoors on sunny days (i.e., Vitamin D) would be even better. Also, if it is true that she is a vegan, that explains just about everything. Growing children/adolescents need lots of nutrient-rich food. Their brain needs vitamins, fats and minerals that are not found in sufficient quantities in plants.

    I wonder how long Greta will last. She is barking nuts, thanks to the adults around her.
    , @sayless
    Working in a greenhouse would probably be very good for her. It sounds like public school has done damage.
    , @Guy De Champlagne
    Greta and her family look like they're in pretty good shape. It's much more the people who whon't shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry "assault weapons" to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese.
  6. GLOUCESTER: Will someone take away this captive scold?

    MARGARET OF ANJOU: Hear me, you wrangling pirates,
    Who now fall out in sharing that
    Which you have filched from me!

    (mayhem ensues; somebody call Mack Sennett)

    • Agree: jim jones
  7. She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness and little by little, bit by bit, she seemed to stop functioning.

    Does that mean she’s exhibiting autism?

    ‘You celebrities are basically to the environment what anti immigrant politicians are to multicultural society,” Greta says at the breakfast table early in 2016. I guess it’s true.

    Greta’s solution: become a celebrity!

    Are there really enormous roadblocks on the way to multicultural paradise (a bizarre idea implanted in the White Mind) where colored people laugh at you as you freak out on stage about your CO2 emissions as you refuse to build nuclear reactors and your recycled stuff is dumped onto Ghanaen trash-heaps,

  8. I’m glad Greta is feeling better. But she is still nuts.

    • Agree: Muggles, Robert Dolan
  9. I have some acquaintances who are a lot like Greta’s parents. The one wise decision they’ve ever made was not to have kids.

  10. On Steve’s theme of women obsessing about themselves, here’s something from The Guardian:

    ‘Vagina is not a rude word’: the scientist fighting to empower women, one word at a time
    Twenty years ago, Catherine Blackledge’s history of the vagina The Story of V broke boundaries. As it is reissued, she talks about anasyrma as activism and why we lie about the clitoris

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/feb/20/vagina-is-not-a-rude-word-catherine-blackledge-raising-the-skirt

    “I think there’s there’s a moment that every person born with a vagina shares, and that is when you realise that you are treated differently to people who have a penis, that you are not treated with the same level of respect,” she says. “I do think women were all wounded in some way. We feel negative about our genitalia, because it seems to be the source of why we are treated differently.”

    She gives the example of ova, which are 80,000 times bigger than sperm. “We have this idea of the sperm going on this valiant and action-packed journey to the egg. But we know now that the game is always played on her turf. She controls the action, she pulls the sperm to her and she engulfs it. The language that we use in so many things is always about male active, female passive. When that changes, I think it will be a dramatic shift. We’re stuck in the old language at the moment.”

    Yesterday, Steve adapted something Lucky Day says in “The Three Amigos”. Here’s another quote from that movie:

    Rosita: I was thinking later, you could kiss me on the veranda.
    Dusty Bottoms: Lips would be fine.

    And here’s another quote from this vagina article:

    She believes parents should just say vagina and vulva, but suggests that “if the UK wants a new non-anatomical word, my vote is for verenda. It’s an old word for the vagina and means ‘the parts that inspire awe or respect’. Grace, gravitas and a great provenance combined.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    She controls the action, she pulls the sperm to her and she engulfs it. The language that we use in so many things is always about male active, female passive. When that changes, I think it will be a dramatic shift. We’re stuck in the old language at the moment.”
     
    Yes, exactly. We've been doing it wrong.

    Miss Blackledge will likely be on of the safest if this Missionary-Position virus spreads ... I'll give her that ...
    , @BenKenobi
    “My work has been called very vaginal. The word often makes men uncomfortable. Vagina.”
    - Maude Lebowski

    I have a 7 year old girl. Our euphemism for her privates is “petunia.”

    , @PhysicistDave
    Calvin Hobbes quoted Catherine Blackledge:

    “I think there’s there’s a moment that every person born with a vagina shares, and that is when you realise that you are treated differently to people who have a penis, that you are not treated with the same level of respect,” she says.
     
    I'm old enough to remember when males were taught they must show more respect to females than is shown to males. And, then, the "sexual revolution" hit when I was an adolescent.

    I remember wondering how it would all work out from an anthropological perspective.

    I'm afraid we now know the answer.
  11. Those that I fight, I do not hate.
    Those that I guard, I do not love.

    As usual Yeats says it best.

    The four of them, Yeats, Frost, Stevens and O’Hara, must form quite the little drinking club.

  12. This all is sick, sick, sick….

    • Agree: BenKenobi, Bubba
    • Replies: @UK
    I watched it until the end by which point it became obvious that the intersex parent was punishing his children for society struggling with accomodating the intersex, and worse, punishing his children for being uncomplicatedly biological males.

    Mental.
  13. One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally.

    Ha! Maybe that’s why they hated those smiling Covington boys so much. They weren’t able to immiserate them! The whole point of “privilege” exercises, by the way, seems to be to inflict neurosis and depression on children.

    • Agree: Hemid
  14. I’ve had the privilege of watching a coupla dozen kids among my extended family, their friends and classmates grow up. The kids went into two broad categories:

    1) The kids who didn’t care about their lefty parents’ and schools’ ideals, or who did care but realized that what their elders were peddling was just a bunch of horsesh*t. Today these grown kids are basically healthy and productive.

    2) The kids who naively took their lefty parents’ and schools’ word on right and wrong, true and false, good and bad. Today these grown kids are gender dysphorics, climate activists, bulimics, slut walkers, anorexics, tattooed, vegan, pierced, “white allies”, pharma—legal and otherwise—junkies, abortion vets, gluten intolerant, antifa, STDed, and pro-genocide. And yes, Greta is their white avatar.

    Liberalism might be the single largest child abuse program ever.

    • Replies: @Jay Ritchie
    Liberalism might be the single largest child abuse program ever.

    Yup - poor Greta. Terrible for such a young person to have their details printed in the international press. She should be ignored and granted her privacy until she has grown up enough to state opinions I can be bothered to listen to.
    , @Guy De Champlagne
    Conservatism is becoming defined and dominated by dysfunctional whites and a dysfunctional white ethos. What that means about conservatism itself as opposed to the vagaries and randomness of the ways that political coalitions emerge is a debate you can have, but you can't just wish away white conservative dysfunction.

    And you can't wish away the incredible success of cultural liberalism. The vast majority of the whites with prestige, money, status, and influence in the US embrace not cultural liberalism but an increasingly strident and extreme version of it but you want us to think that they're all broken and mired in their dysfunction. You sound completely ridiculous.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Right on, A.M.!
    , @Morton's toes
    Perhaps mom is just raising her up to join the family business. Celebrity. These people might be most easily classified as Swedish Kardashians. If they don't have their own reality television show right now then just wait.
  15. The island of plastic floating in the Pacific is another green lie. I suggest they all sail out there to collect it all and don’t come back until their boat is full.

    Disturbing the level of indoctrination.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    No matter how your turn that, plastic does NOT belong in the sea.

    Especially if you still dare to eat fish.

    It's no indoctrination, it's just common sense.
    , @Lockean Proviso
    The great majority of the plastic comes from Asia:

    "Overall, worldwide, most of the plastic trash in the ocean comes from Asia. In fact, the top six countries for ocean garbage are China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, Sri Lanka and Thailand, according to a 2015 study in the journal Science. "

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2018/09/07/great-pacific-garbage-patch-where-did-all-trash-come/1133838002/

    The garbage patch lies between the US mainland and Hawaii on "our side" of the Pacific, so it's more of our problem that they've added to.
    , @Roderick Spode
    Poe's law.

    Patrick Moore is an industry shill.
  16. In a strange coincidence, my European wife commented that it was interesting that she and her three best European female friends had all married non-European men, to which I could only ask, “Is there really still anything that can be called a European man?”

    • Replies: @BB753
    In the Balkans (Serbs, Croats, Romanians, Bulgars, etc) and in Russia and Ukraine still live the toughest men on the planet. And the prettiest women too.
    , @Thea
    Putin
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    For a while I had a stunningly beautiful British girlfriend, your dictionary definition of a so-called "English rose," easily the most beautiful girl I've ever been lucky enough to bed, and she used to say, in a rather impolite tone of voice, "you know, I only f!ck American men. I wouldn't be caught dead with an Englishman."

    And before you start all the "Dear Penthouse" jokes, it's actually true. And, ended badly.
  17. The poor, troubled child. Hope she finds some tranquility. Being young, mentally fragile and a public figure are a toxic combination.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    No child is poor or troubled when they get raped and ritually humiliated by a gang of Muslims. The best outcome is something that would shock globalists into paralysis.
  18. I listened to this recently and thought it was a great analysis of where Greta’s mania came from. Her mother lays it out if you can read between the lines:

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    It's very enlightening to learn that Greta has OCD, comes from a stage family, and that her mother is a European celebrity.

    So Greta becomes obsessive about the environment propaganda she is fed at school. Then she and her stage mother naturally conclude that the best therapy is to use her obsession to seek attention. The mother's celebrity and connections then make the whole Greta-Mania process happen.

    I will say the mother's memoir seems very well-written. But I also can't help wondering if it's partly her own attempt to exploit Greta-mania by pulling the spotlight back on herself.
    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    Yes. Jones lays it out quite well:
    1) the Swedes changed how they taught sex ed in school from realistic videos to cartoons
    2) moms aren’t home to explain the new, weird cartoon sex Ed videos
    3) huge explosion of 12 yr old girls not eating at the same time...
  19. In school one day, Greta’s class watches a film about how much rubbish there is in the oceans. An island of plastic, larger than Mexico, is floating around in the South Pacific. Greta cries throughout the film.

    Teachers should be fired, if not jailed, for misinforming kids like this.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    ... and, for wasting time with this bullshit while taking a couple of months to teach fractions - Peak Stupidity on the Professional "Educators".

    Even if you do try to jail them, though, Cloudbuster, the judge will just give them credit for time served ... in the prisons we call Public Schools.
    , @Guy De Champlagne
    Lies like how the great pacific garbage patch is actually only 1.6 million square km while mexico is actually 1.9 million? Or lies like how its not literally an island and is only an obvious metaphor?
    , @MBlanc46
    Fired, of course, but horse-whipping must be included.
  20. Greta is the Whitest person in the world.

    She needs to check her privilege.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    She needs to be put in check.
  21. Word for the Day:

    WITTEWIJVEN—literally ‘white women’—are individual wisps of mist, especially those seen in graveyards, forests, or burial grounds. According to Dutch folklore, they are the spirits of witches or prophetesses, who can give advice or assistance if asked.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    Also called will-o'-the wisp. This is actually misty clouds of hoar frost rising from the earth in certain weathers.
  22. My favourite part about her is how crazy she is. Greta will back at UN headquarters in ten years time, feeding the global elite into a giant woodchipper at the Climate Nuremberg.

    • Replies: @but an humble craftsman
    Now that would make me fall wildly in love with her.

    (By then she will be so old that even Alden might think once before accusing me of pedophilia)
  23. @Almost Missouri
    I've had the privilege of watching a coupla dozen kids among my extended family, their friends and classmates grow up. The kids went into two broad categories:

    1) The kids who didn't care about their lefty parents' and schools' ideals, or who did care but realized that what their elders were peddling was just a bunch of horsesh*t. Today these grown kids are basically healthy and productive.

    2) The kids who naively took their lefty parents' and schools' word on right and wrong, true and false, good and bad. Today these grown kids are gender dysphorics, climate activists, bulimics, slut walkers, anorexics, tattooed, vegan, pierced, "white allies", pharma—legal and otherwise—junkies, abortion vets, gluten intolerant, antifa, STDed, and pro-genocide. And yes, Greta is their white avatar.

    Liberalism might be the single largest child abuse program ever.

    Liberalism might be the single largest child abuse program ever.

    Yup – poor Greta. Terrible for such a young person to have their details printed in the international press. She should be ignored and granted her privacy until she has grown up enough to state opinions I can be bothered to listen to.

  24. Greta is the Whitest person in the world.

    Yes, she is pure. A Northern New Saint of the Godless 21st Century Europe. A virgin even.

    (For those interested in the social dynamics, such a figure can set off, see the perfectly well written entertaining and insightful novel Our Lady of the Forest by David Guterson).

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    Yes, she is pure. A Northern New Saint of the Godless 21st Century Europe. A virgin even.
     
    Wait, I thought that being full-on promiscuously and miscegenationously perverse was the new virtue. Shouldn't she get tatted up and pierced, undergo gender transition, and become a cam tran who has sex with multiracial lesbians and trans men and then donates the porn revenue to Greenpeace? That would be sainthood in the new globohomo faith.
  25. During the ongoing Crisis of Whiteness, Greta is the Whitest person in the world.

    In the words of the late, and very much lamented John McLaughlin, you have lurched, uncontrollably, into the truth.

  26. You know how you feel when a group of God’s self appointed disciples come to your door wanting you to join their group of believers and sometimes get angry when your not interested,, yeah it’s like that feeling but with all them.

  27. If Greta grew up in a country where she could see that the people who ran things valued white children like her, worked to protect their interests and invested resources into their success, she would feel a lot better about her life.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    If Greta grew up in a country where she could see that the people who ran things valued white children like her, worked to protect their interests and invested resources into their success, she would feel a lot better about her life.
     
    Well said AA.

    And i'd add
    -- where the children where instilled with pride in their nation, culture, race and civilization
    -- where the boys were encouraged toward the physical and mental strength to be ready fight to preserve their nation as well as productively provide for their future families
    -- where the girls were encouraged toward making themselves ready to be and understanding they'll find fulfillment in being loving, conscientious wives and mothers.

    If that was the case, these "gender dysphoria" girls would almost all have crushes--often returned--on some boy, and even nerdy Greta would probably find some nerdy boy who thought she was neat and wanted to hang out with her.

    Male and female humans naturally enjoy each other quite a bit. It takes minoritarianism to ruin that and turn it into this mentally ill, socio-sexual dystopia.
    , @I Have Scinde
    It is very possible that Ms. Thunberg simply believes what she is told. Her classmates can feign concern, but understand that actions show he truth, and see that no one is acting to solve these problems. Therefore, the problems must not be real, or not significant, and they accordingly are not bothered. This disconnect between propaganda and action is intuited by the vast majority of students who observe it.

    Now, imagine that you actually believe the things you are told. You see these massive, civilization-threatening crises that people tell you will steal your childhood and ruin your life. Then you see it not translated into action, and your only logical conclusion is that the adults in the room are either criminally unconcerned about future generations or actively trying to destroy you. At some point it becomes impossible to even consider the idea that you had been lied to all along. How could you not fight at that point? Especially if your parents are encouraging you for any reason.

    The vast majority of humans can understand the difference between what they are told people have to care about, and what they see people actually care about. But some, likely people afflicted with autism in many cases, and in other cases being a computer outwitted by Captain Kirk, might not be able to distinguish.
  28. One blogger I read frequently is now practicing medicine without a license while iSteve attempts psychiatry without a license. I’ve reached a conclusion:

    It’s midlife crisis week!

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Oi now, miss, you got a loicense for that comment?
    , @AnotherDad

    One blogger I read frequently is now practicing medicine without a license while iSteve attempts psychiatry without a license. I’ve reached a conclusion:

    It’s midlife crisis week!
     
    "psychiatry without a license" is pretty much the 2nd oldest recreational activity of mankind. (I.e. b.s.ing about how screwed up other people are.)
    , @Warner
    Psychiatry? Steve's giving out drugs?
  29. Hope this damaged princess’s effect on the state of the world is rather less consequential than that of the prince whom your post title references. He, at least, managed to keep his ambitions regional.

  30. The younger sister seems normal.

  31. They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5’4” Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    I’d say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad’s mom was very short.

    • Thanks: John Regan
    • Replies: @songbird
    I really like the phrase "Greta syndrome", but it is not a syndrome is it? I mean, that is the weakness of the phrase: how many autistic scowlers look so childlike?
    , @El Dato
    "The HR person and the new hire who will set the house on fire"
    , @sayless
    Many Swedes grow to their adult height quite slowly. Menarche also arrives late relative to other peoples.
    , @ConfirmationBias
    AOC is almost definitely in heels. That said, Greta looks much shorter than 5’4... which coincidentally feels short for a Swede, but is actually much taller than average for, say, an indian or Chinese woman. Kim Kardashian is 5’2. Lady Gaga is 5’1. Ariana Grande is 5 or 4’11.

    So, on the short side, but calling her stunted is a stretch. But it does feel nice to attack the people we don’t like on their looks, height, mental conditions or intellect, doesn’t it?

    , @Hamlet's Ghost
    She's adopted a vegan diet. This is why she's missed the puberty bus.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Greta has an air of the carny about her, some kind of untermensch gypsy show-biz person not to be trusted.

    "Actors are just carnies with good teeth." -- Craig Ferguson
    , @Chrisnonymous

    her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic,
     
    As I pointed out previously, she bears an uncanny resemblance to the daughter from the "Pop-up Book of Gnomes" I had as a child...

    https://www.stellabooks.com/images/stock/1108/1108582~2.JPG

    The book is available, new, from Amazon for only $2,112.37, which is a steal considering the cost of N95 masks these days: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0810909707/ref=tmm_hrd_new_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=&sr=
    , @Alden
    Her mother looks about 5’10. In the family pictures the Dad doesn’t look short. Strict veganism and anorexia age 8-12 stunts growth. There’s a few rare digestive diseases like celiac. People with those diseases don’t get enough nourishment and if they grow up grow up tiny.
  32. Sounds like Greta is a way for her two artistic parents to finally make some money of their own.

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    No no,

    how dare you and so on...

    I don't know about her dad but her mom is clearly mentally ill herself and if these things are genetic then it could explain a few things since both daughters have issues.

    Mom used to be a fanatical open borders campaigner around the time Greta was ill. At the same time she's having some sort of artistic career where she's away from home quite a lot.

    Maybe Greta needed her mom? I don't know, maybe it's that easy?

  33. Anon[169] • Disclaimer says:

    Wikipedia has a ridiculously titled page called “Voyage of Greta Thunberg.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_Greta_Thunberg

    I like to watch sailing videos on YouTube. My favorite sub-genre is the solo sailer, especially the reckless ones who sail into gales on small monohulls on long transoceanic passages.

    But there’s another sub-genre in which a couple with minimal sailing experience will exit the rat race, buy a boat, and sail the world living the “cruising” lifestyle (think RVs on the ocean), documenting everything on video and making money from Google ads and Patreon. The hotness of the female seems to determine the relative success of these videos. These couples will often sail on catamarans rather than monohulls. Cats are not as seaworthy as monohulls, but they allow for spacious and luxurious digs: full kitchen, toilets, bedrooms, salon, chart desk, etc.

    On her return trip Greta somehow got hooked up with one of these cat couples, an Australian duo, and they turned Greta’s return trip into a clickbaity episode of their continuing reality-show saga, complete with a seasick Greta in the fetal position.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=frZI857axRs

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    LOL. I’ve been half-jokingly suggesting to my second wife that we sell the condo and buy a catamaran and live at Waikiki beach.
    , @International Jew

    Greta somehow got hooked up with one of these cat couples
     
    Be their choice of pets what it may be, my hat's off to anyone who can sail a boat across the ocean. And, grudgingly, even to someone willing to go along as a passenger.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I like to watch sailing videos on YouTube. My favorite sub-genre is the solo sailer, especially the reckless ones who sail into gales on small monohulls on long transoceanic passages.
     
    I used to collect such books 30 years ago. Dove was just the start.
  34. She seems to embody in her stunted form so many of the mental travails plaguing the 21st Century world. During the ongoing Crisis of Whiteness, Greta is the Whitest person in the world.

    It kinda reminds me of the lesser “digital saint” Jason Russell. I recall my siblings and younger family friends getting addicted to the Kony 2012 campaign stuff. Though the activism did the opposite for Russell and stressed him out (with hilarious results.) It’s a safe bet Greta focuses on the message and “evangelizing” while everyone else runs the day-to-day affairs. I’d bet money that the Kony 2012 campaign is reason #213 for the 2013 Great Awokening. After Kony 2012 many talented grifters saw the massive potential to make serious money via social media.

  35. @Almost Missouri
    I've had the privilege of watching a coupla dozen kids among my extended family, their friends and classmates grow up. The kids went into two broad categories:

    1) The kids who didn't care about their lefty parents' and schools' ideals, or who did care but realized that what their elders were peddling was just a bunch of horsesh*t. Today these grown kids are basically healthy and productive.

    2) The kids who naively took their lefty parents' and schools' word on right and wrong, true and false, good and bad. Today these grown kids are gender dysphorics, climate activists, bulimics, slut walkers, anorexics, tattooed, vegan, pierced, "white allies", pharma—legal and otherwise—junkies, abortion vets, gluten intolerant, antifa, STDed, and pro-genocide. And yes, Greta is their white avatar.

    Liberalism might be the single largest child abuse program ever.

    Conservatism is becoming defined and dominated by dysfunctional whites and a dysfunctional white ethos. What that means about conservatism itself as opposed to the vagaries and randomness of the ways that political coalitions emerge is a debate you can have, but you can’t just wish away white conservative dysfunction.

    And you can’t wish away the incredible success of cultural liberalism. The vast majority of the whites with prestige, money, status, and influence in the US embrace not cultural liberalism but an increasingly strident and extreme version of it but you want us to think that they’re all broken and mired in their dysfunction. You sound completely ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Not saying cultural liberalism hasn't affected nominally non-liberals, including myself. That's the price we are all paying for its ascendancy.

    But how are cult-lib überspawn such as Hunter Biden and Mikaela Spielberg doing?
    , @Ted Bell

    The vast majority of the whites with prestige, money, status, and influence in the US embrace not cultural liberalism but an increasingly strident and extreme version of it but you want us to think that they’re all broken and mired in their dysfunction.
     
    I think the point you're making is clear to anyone who reads Steve. The modern democrat party sees the most privileged whites as the only good ones, while the whites without privilege are the scum of the earth. It's refreshing to see someone from your side confirm that so openly. I applaud your candor, if nothing else.

    When, exactly, did the democrats become the elitist party? I'm old enough to remember when the democrats at least pretended they were the party of the working man. Maybe it was Regan. Maybe it was an inevitable consequence of the 1965 immigration act. Regardless, I don't see how they can still claim the republicans are the party of the rich, while constantly bragging that all the rich people are democrats. And it's downright bizarre that the ninth richest man on earth is currently running as a democrat, at least partially on the claim that it's poor whites, not "self made" multi-billionaires, who are the privileged oppressors. Somehow, by hybridizing race and class conflict, the rich whites have managed to actually increase their power, while blaming all the world's problems on poor whites, who never had any more power than the "oppressed minorities." I guess that's what happens when a single political party and the media become indistinguishable from each other.
    , @Me
    The children of non-Jewish white liberals don't do well (or get murdered by vibrancy...seeing that more and more lately.) A poster above commented perfectly...

    The kids who believe their parents lies have A LOT of problems.

    Best example: Dave Merritt the father of Jack Merritt...Dave's twitter page is a reminder to everyone on the planet...

    If you die, no one will care about you, not even your father.
  36. Greta Thunberg=

    Green thug brat

    The beggar runt

    The bragger nut

    But-hert nagger

    Hagg better run!

    Target her bung[hole]

    G-get heartburn!

    [And yet, she] brung [us] tagether

    Greta Thunberg, The Beggar Runt;
    Green Thug Brat, The Bragger Nut.
    But-hert nagger, hagg better run!
    Target her bung! G-get heartburn!

    Ay, fer Greta ye mayn’t give a fig ner a feather,
    Yet ye have to admit that she brung us tagether!

  37. We carried on like that for 12 years. It was arduous but great fun. We spent two months in each city and then moved on. Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona. Round and round. We spent the summers in Glyndebourne, Salzburg or Aix-en-Provence. As you do when you’re good at singing opera and other classical music. I rehearsed 20 to 30 hours a week and the rest of the time we spent together.

    Beata was born three years after Greta and we bought a Volvo V70 so we’d have room for doll’s houses, teddy bears and tricycles. Those were fantastic years. Our life was marvellous.

    Mom’s life was marvelous. I wonder if the constant travel and foreign stimulus and upheaval slowly wore down the autistic Greta until she couldn’t take it anymore.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    Speaking as a kid who was toted around a lot in childhood -- but not nearly as much as Greta -- the effects were horrendous. No stability. No lasting friends. Always the new kid. Worst of all is the self-absorbed parents, the ones who never give a thought to how what they are doing is affecting you, even when you are begging them to not move you again.
    , @JimB

    Mom’s life was marvelous. I wonder if the constant travel and foreign stimulus and upheaval slowly wore down the autistic Greta until she couldn’t take it anymore.
     
    Maybe like Obama, Greta wants to spend most of her time in solitude either vegetating or fantasizing.
  38. Yes Greta Thurnberg is a ridiculous figure in lots of ways (although a quite enthralling and enchanting one as well) but the people arguing for the reality of AGW and taking actions to reverse it have lots of people on their side, including a solid consensus of scientists. So who really are the ridiculous ones?

    • Agree: Paleo Liberal
    • Replies: @donvonburg
    If they are for nuclear power and if they are buying land that is worthless now but would be prime real estate if waters rose, while getting out of future underwater areas like Malibu, they might really believe in AGW and its consequences. If they are not they do not.


    It is no more complicated than that.
    , @BenKenobi
    Sanity is not statistical.
    , @Dog
    AGW has a consensus of an extremely large number of soft scientists.
    , @Kratoklastes
    'Consensus' is not the collective noun for scientists.

    Anyone who thinks that a majority view enforced by some doctrinaire 'opinion leaders' is ipso facto evidence that dissenters are wrong, has no familiarity with how wrong consensus has been at all points in the history of science.

    And that's for genuine, real science.

    A good example: as late as 1920, the dominant paradigm in cosmology was that our home galaxy constituted the entire universe. Skeptics insisted this was unlikely, but by 1920 they did not by any means have the upper hand.

    The 'Shapley-Curtis Debate' was published in 1920 - and Shapley had empirical support from van Maanen, whose measurements were inconsistent with Curtis' claims.

    Hubble showed (almost a decade later) that van Maanen was either incompetent or a fraud. We now know with certainty that the 'dissenter' (Curtis) was correct: what had previously been called 'spiral nebulae' were, in fact, other galaxies like our own.

    .

    It can be that bad in proper, genuine science, so it should be expected to be much worse in climate 'science', which has more in common with religion than it does with actual science: it is a correct-line orthodoxy with a set of central tenets that admit of no dissent and whose forecasts of Armageddon keep failing to materialise.

    Climate 'science' bears the same relationship to actual science, as 'Scien'tology or the Church of Jesus Christ, Scientist. How many people undertake study of climate 'science' because they are interested in the truth of the matter, regardless of whether or not it completely upends the current dominant narrative?

    Given the calibre of students at undergraduate level in that 'space', the right guess is zero. These people are like seminarians: they are already True Believers.

    , @Lurker
    AGW? Wow did you just beam in from the 1990s? Current Year goodthinkers know its not warming, its climate change. Thus there is a scientific consensus that the climate is warming/cooling, that there be more/less rainfall, more/less snow etc.
  39. Broken people, who think they can never fix themselves, focus on fixing other things.

    These broken people tend to focus on huge problems, or problems they view to be huge, since, being hard to ignore, they make great distractions from the perceived unsolvable personal failings that haunt their existence.

    That’s why a feel genuine sadness for people like Greta and David Hogg. There is so much more they could do with their lives.

    • Replies: @Kronos

    That’s why a feel genuine sadness for people like Greta and David Hogg. There is so much more they could do with their lives.
     
    I’m guessing Hogg is a cold calculator and quickly realized he stumbled on a gold mine. He played his cards right and got straight into Harvard. There’s a good chance of a political/lobbyist career soon after graduation. Greta is a autistic child being paraded around by the climate cult. One child crusader is more cognitively able than the other.
    , @Ian Smith
    I know a couple of people like that. When they’re not raging against capitalism, they’re drinking themselves to death. Spot on observation.
  40. @Sean
    They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5'4'' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    https://www.3quarksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2901-288x360.jpg

    I'd say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad's mom was very short.

    I really like the phrase “Greta syndrome”, but it is not a syndrome is it? I mean, that is the weakness of the phrase: how many autistic scowlers look so childlike?

    • Replies: @Sean
    Very much doubt that even by the relaxed standard of modern Asperger's criteria she has something that is usually associated with parents associatively mating for maths and hard science and technical ability. Her father is an actor and so his was his father Olaf (Greta's grandad) quite well known and character actor and director.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Olof_Thunberg_1959.jpg/330px-Olof_Thunberg_1959.jpg

    He appeared in a Bergman film and so angst is something Greta would find easy.
  41. @Lugash

    We carried on like that for 12 years. It was arduous but great fun. We spent two months in each city and then moved on. Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona. Round and round. We spent the summers in Glyndebourne, Salzburg or Aix-en-Provence. As you do when you’re good at singing opera and other classical music. I rehearsed 20 to 30 hours a week and the rest of the time we spent together.

    Beata was born three years after Greta and we bought a Volvo V70 so we’d have room for doll’s houses, teddy bears and tricycles. Those were fantastic years. Our life was marvellous.
     
    Mom's life was marvelous. I wonder if the constant travel and foreign stimulus and upheaval slowly wore down the autistic Greta until she couldn't take it anymore.

    Speaking as a kid who was toted around a lot in childhood — but not nearly as much as Greta — the effects were horrendous. No stability. No lasting friends. Always the new kid. Worst of all is the self-absorbed parents, the ones who never give a thought to how what they are doing is affecting you, even when you are begging them to not move you again.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Greta's mother is a diva -- fairly literally.
  42. @Achmed E. Newman

    Another question is whether Greta is directly descended from 1903 Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius, inventor of the Greenhouse Theory, or merely related to him.
     
    Huh, that'd be a hoot. Speaking of greenhouses, working in one for a few years doing manual labor taking care of the greenery is probably one thing that would make Greta Betta.

    It’s amazing how much being physically tired at the end of the day contributes to mental health.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  43. @Hippopotamusdrome
    https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/greta-thunberg-pointing-at-trump-how-dare-you-india-china-shes-not-talking-to-us-is-she-nah-were-good.jpg

    One of the things that becomes clear when you talk to people about global warming is that huge numbers of people are too stupid to understand the different kinds of pollution and so conflate greenhouse gas emissions with things like ocean dumping.

  44. @The Alarmist
    In a strange coincidence, my European wife commented that it was interesting that she and her three best European female friends had all married non-European men, to which I could only ask, "Is there really still anything that can be called a European man?"

    In the Balkans (Serbs, Croats, Romanians, Bulgars, etc) and in Russia and Ukraine still live the toughest men on the planet. And the prettiest women too.

  45. @miss marple
    One blogger I read frequently is now practicing medicine without a license while iSteve attempts psychiatry without a license. I've reached a conclusion:

    It's midlife crisis week!

    Oi now, miss, you got a loicense for that comment?

  46. @Anon7
    Word for the Day:

    WITTEWIJVEN—literally ‘white women’—are individual wisps of mist, especially those seen in graveyards, forests, or burial grounds. According to Dutch folklore, they are the spirits of witches or prophetesses, who can give advice or assistance if asked.

    Also called will-o’-the wisp. This is actually misty clouds of hoar frost rising from the earth in certain weathers.

  47. This seems just a Nordic version of “tikkun olam”.

    Didn’t Steve observe that some Jewish young people with family troubles will lash out at their parents through joining feminism / marxism / deconstructionism / freudianism / etc. So here it’s the same, but directed to more Nordic-liberal things such as the environment / Nature.

    “How dare you” is basica Greta’s anger at her mother for her prioritizing her art instead of her upbringing. Makes one think if some type of women really would be better not having children. Perhaps maternity is really not meant for all.

    A similar case by the way, was explored by Bergman (Ingmar) in Autumn Sonata (with the other famous Bergman, Ingrid, in the main role):

  48. @allahu akbar
    Broken people, who think they can never fix themselves, focus on fixing other things.

    These broken people tend to focus on huge problems, or problems they view to be huge, since, being hard to ignore, they make great distractions from the perceived unsolvable personal failings that haunt their existence.

    That's why a feel genuine sadness for people like Greta and David Hogg. There is so much more they could do with their lives.

    That’s why a feel genuine sadness for people like Greta and David Hogg. There is so much more they could do with their lives.

    I’m guessing Hogg is a cold calculator and quickly realized he stumbled on a gold mine. He played his cards right and got straight into Harvard. There’s a good chance of a political/lobbyist career soon after graduation. Greta is a autistic child being paraded around by the climate cult. One child crusader is more cognitively able than the other.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/404/261/a88.png

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0zZk0ewQT4I/W35XDHnfG3I/AAAAAAAKh10/Vy3lZQHD6EUN_RzwABlCuT5-LDO7iM_TQCLcBGAs/s640/1534973467927.jpg

  49. @Achmed E. Newman

    Another question is whether Greta is directly descended from 1903 Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius, inventor of the Greenhouse Theory, or merely related to him.
     
    Huh, that'd be a hoot. Speaking of greenhouses, working in one for a few years doing manual labor taking care of the greenery is probably one thing that would make Greta Betta.

    Huh, that’d be a hoot. Speaking of greenhouses, working in one for a few years doing manual labor taking care of the greenery is probably one thing that would make Greta Betta.

    Greenhouse work would be good. But working right outdoors on sunny days (i.e., Vitamin D) would be even better. Also, if it is true that she is a vegan, that explains just about everything. Growing children/adolescents need lots of nutrient-rich food. Their brain needs vitamins, fats and minerals that are not found in sufficient quantities in plants.

    I wonder how long Greta will last. She is barking nuts, thanks to the adults around her.

  50. Just from some iSteve posts in the past few days:

    Angela Saini
    Subhadra Das
    Mikki Kendall
    Swedish teen girls’ “gender dysphoria” explosion
    Malena Ernman
    Great Thurnberg

    Has there been *any* benefit to women’s “liberation”? And specifically to inviting women to “become part of the conversation”. Has the quality of “the conversation” improved? Has human knowledge increased? Does Western civilization function better?

    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?

    Well, we know the answer to that, according to surveys in the social sciences, and it is "no."
    , @Old Palo Altan
    No, no, no, no, no, and no.

    Just minutes ago I was discussing this with a friend in the USA. Women exist to give birth, to nurture, and to pray.

    They are far better than men at all three.

    Let's leave them to it and get on with re-ordering the world.
    , @Bardon Kaldian

    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?
     
    Not being a traditionalist, I would answer: it depends. For some, life is assuredly better & more fulfilled. For some - exactly the opposite.
    , @Guy De Champlagne
    Like how the benefits of immigration goes to rich people and the immigrants themselves, the benefits of feminism have gone to rich people and women.
  51. @Guy De Champlagne
    Conservatism is becoming defined and dominated by dysfunctional whites and a dysfunctional white ethos. What that means about conservatism itself as opposed to the vagaries and randomness of the ways that political coalitions emerge is a debate you can have, but you can't just wish away white conservative dysfunction.

    And you can't wish away the incredible success of cultural liberalism. The vast majority of the whites with prestige, money, status, and influence in the US embrace not cultural liberalism but an increasingly strident and extreme version of it but you want us to think that they're all broken and mired in their dysfunction. You sound completely ridiculous.

    Not saying cultural liberalism hasn’t affected nominally non-liberals, including myself. That’s the price we are all paying for its ascendancy.

    But how are cult-lib überspawn such as Hunter Biden and Mikaela Spielberg doing?

    • Replies: @Alden
    Hunter Biden’s doing very well.
  52. @LondonBob
    The island of plastic floating in the Pacific is another green lie. I suggest they all sail out there to collect it all and don't come back until their boat is full.

    https://twitter.com/EcoSenseNow/status/1228804203163811842?s=20

    Disturbing the level of indoctrination.

    No matter how your turn that, plastic does NOT belong in the sea.

    Especially if you still dare to eat fish.

    It’s no indoctrination, it’s just common sense.

  53. @Sean
    They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5'4'' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    https://www.3quarksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2901-288x360.jpg

    I'd say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad's mom was very short.

    “The HR person and the new hire who will set the house on fire”

    • LOL: Bubba
  54. @Warner
    I listened to this recently and thought it was a great analysis of where Greta's mania came from. Her mother lays it out if you can read between the lines:

    https://youtu.be/hP8BqnFjSOw?t=121

    It’s very enlightening to learn that Greta has OCD, comes from a stage family, and that her mother is a European celebrity.

    So Greta becomes obsessive about the environment propaganda she is fed at school. Then she and her stage mother naturally conclude that the best therapy is to use her obsession to seek attention. The mother’s celebrity and connections then make the whole Greta-Mania process happen.

    I will say the mother’s memoir seems very well-written. But I also can’t help wondering if it’s partly her own attempt to exploit Greta-mania by pulling the spotlight back on herself.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I suspect some of it is Mommy saying, "Oh my God! We can't have a child who isn't a celebrity! That means the family will slide back down the social ladder, and we can't have that! The Horror!"

    Most children of celebrities do slide back down the social ladder, though they don't always hit bottom.
  55. Obviously most folks are not really aware of the reasons for her huge following and those being traced to the lunatic Krauts who support and promote her and worship the ground she walks on such as they do regarding BO.
    Without the promotion of her and the “Klima” moralizing by the German “Besserwisser Gutmenschen” she would be a minor figure in the whole grand picture of things.
    Germany , the source of all evil : Antifa, Communism, Heroin, Psychology (yeah Freud was Austrian, but still a Teuton) Bauhaus, etc. : “Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen”.

    The Boots and throats Kraut media has been demanding for years that the US alter it’s constitution so as to forbid privately owned Guns, and that the electoral college, which caused their Liebling HC to lose, be eliminated, as they apparently think that they won the war and that they are called upon to dictate internal Us politics.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Aermy vet, and pro jazz performer.

  56. …She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness and little by little, bit by bit, she seemed to stop functioning. She stopped playing the piano. She stopped laughing. She stopped talking….

    You had me at “…she stopped talking…”

  57. @songbird
    I really like the phrase "Greta syndrome", but it is not a syndrome is it? I mean, that is the weakness of the phrase: how many autistic scowlers look so childlike?

    Very much doubt that even by the relaxed standard of modern Asperger’s criteria she has something that is usually associated with parents associatively mating for maths and hard science and technical ability. Her father is an actor and so his was his father Olaf (Greta’s grandad) quite well known and character actor and director.

    He appeared in a Bergman film and so angst is something Greta would find easy.

  58. @Calvin Hobbes
    On Steve’s theme of women obsessing about themselves, here’s something from The Guardian:


    'Vagina is not a rude word': the scientist fighting to empower women, one word at a time
    Twenty years ago, Catherine Blackledge’s history of the vagina The Story of V broke boundaries. As it is reissued, she talks about anasyrma as activism and why we lie about the clitoris

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/feb/20/vagina-is-not-a-rude-word-catherine-blackledge-raising-the-skirt


    “I think there’s there’s a moment that every person born with a vagina shares, and that is when you realise that you are treated differently to people who have a penis, that you are not treated with the same level of respect,” she says. “I do think women were all wounded in some way. We feel negative about our genitalia, because it seems to be the source of why we are treated differently.”
    ...
    She gives the example of ova, which are 80,000 times bigger than sperm. “We have this idea of the sperm going on this valiant and action-packed journey to the egg. But we know now that the game is always played on her turf. She controls the action, she pulls the sperm to her and she engulfs it. The language that we use in so many things is always about male active, female passive. When that changes, I think it will be a dramatic shift. We’re stuck in the old language at the moment.”

    Yesterday, Steve adapted something Lucky Day says in “The Three Amigos”. Here’s another quote from that movie:

    Rosita: I was thinking later, you could kiss me on the veranda.
    Dusty Bottoms: Lips would be fine.

    And here’s another quote from this vagina article:

    She believes parents should just say vagina and vulva, but suggests that “if the UK wants a new non-anatomical word, my vote is for verenda. It’s an old word for the vagina and means ‘the parts that inspire awe or respect’. Grace, gravitas and a great provenance combined.”

    She controls the action, she pulls the sperm to her and she engulfs it. The language that we use in so many things is always about male active, female passive. When that changes, I think it will be a dramatic shift. We’re stuck in the old language at the moment.”

    Yes, exactly. We’ve been doing it wrong.

    Miss Blackledge will likely be on of the safest if this Missionary-Position virus spreads … I’ll give her that …

  59. @Almost Missouri
    I've had the privilege of watching a coupla dozen kids among my extended family, their friends and classmates grow up. The kids went into two broad categories:

    1) The kids who didn't care about their lefty parents' and schools' ideals, or who did care but realized that what their elders were peddling was just a bunch of horsesh*t. Today these grown kids are basically healthy and productive.

    2) The kids who naively took their lefty parents' and schools' word on right and wrong, true and false, good and bad. Today these grown kids are gender dysphorics, climate activists, bulimics, slut walkers, anorexics, tattooed, vegan, pierced, "white allies", pharma—legal and otherwise—junkies, abortion vets, gluten intolerant, antifa, STDed, and pro-genocide. And yes, Greta is their white avatar.

    Liberalism might be the single largest child abuse program ever.

    Right on, A.M.!

  60. @Cloudbuster
    In school one day, Greta’s class watches a film about how much rubbish there is in the oceans. An island of plastic, larger than Mexico, is floating around in the South Pacific. Greta cries throughout the film.

    Teachers should be fired, if not jailed, for misinforming kids like this.

    … and, for wasting time with this bullshit while taking a couple of months to teach fractions – Peak Stupidity on the Professional “Educators”.

    Even if you do try to jail them, though, Cloudbuster, the judge will just give them credit for time served … in the prisons we call Public Schools.

  61. @Guy De Champlagne
    Yes Greta Thurnberg is a ridiculous figure in lots of ways (although a quite enthralling and enchanting one as well) but the people arguing for the reality of AGW and taking actions to reverse it have lots of people on their side, including a solid consensus of scientists. So who really are the ridiculous ones?

    If they are for nuclear power and if they are buying land that is worthless now but would be prime real estate if waters rose, while getting out of future underwater areas like Malibu, they might really believe in AGW and its consequences. If they are not they do not.

    It is no more complicated than that.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    As for real estate, even people that think markets are magic don't think markets can say much about the future past ~20 years from now because of the present discount of future earnings. And noone claims its even possible to pinpoint future prime real estate because noone knows what future emissions will be, what kind of countermeasures (e.g. sea walls, carbon sequestration, etc.) will be deployed, or even the exact consequences of fixed emissions holding all else equal.

    Noone doubts that Venice has serious problems that need to be addressed to prevent it from sinking into the adriatic, but go try to buy a house in venice (spoiler alert: they're really fucking expensive).

    As for nuclear energy, one is perfectly allowed to think that greenhouse gas emissions and nuclear energy are both bad things. Not to mention that the kind of breakneck nuclear expansion needed to replace a significant portion of current carbon emitting sources of energy in a timely manner would itself cause new safety issues and, by many accounts, would be impossible due to shortages in highly specialized materials and expertise.

  62. @Hippopotamusdrome
    https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/greta-thunberg-pointing-at-trump-how-dare-you-india-china-shes-not-talking-to-us-is-she-nah-were-good.jpg

    Quite hilarious! Seems like Greta’s a racist, doesn’t it?

  63. @miss marple
    One blogger I read frequently is now practicing medicine without a license while iSteve attempts psychiatry without a license. I've reached a conclusion:

    It's midlife crisis week!

    One blogger I read frequently is now practicing medicine without a license while iSteve attempts psychiatry without a license. I’ve reached a conclusion:

    It’s midlife crisis week!

    “psychiatry without a license” is pretty much the 2nd oldest recreational activity of mankind. (I.e. b.s.ing about how screwed up other people are.)

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    "psychiatry without a license"!

    The concept of unauthorized musing about human behavior could only occur to someone in The Current Year.
    "Oy mate, you wanna come down to the Yard and explain your interest in human behaviah, eh?"

    "...midlife crisis week"

    The reality that age produces experience and sometimes even wisdom, also, could only be disparaged in The Current Year.

    But whatever year it is, it still takes a douchebag to do it!
    , @Hypnotoad666

    “psychiatry without a license” is pretty much the 2nd oldest recreational activity of mankind. (I.e. b.s.ing about how screwed up other people are.)
     
    In any event, the psychiatrists with licenses know essentially nothing about why humans act and feel as they do. Psychiatry is mostly about making up labels in order to trigger insurance coverage.

    Treatment mainly consists of trying different uppers, downers, and/or SSRI'S until the patient claims she feels better. It's just trial and error without any real understanding of causation.

    In my humble and cynical opinion, psychiatry in its current state is a far cry from an objective science.

  64. She seems to embody in her stunted form so many of the mental travails plaguing the 21st Century world. During the ongoing Crisis of Whiteness, Greta is the Whitest person in the world.

    Greta has inherited her mother’s diva personality without the vocal talent. Had Greta become an opera singer she would have ended up like Hannah Roemhild, the loopy opera singer arrested in Florida for dancing on her SUV and driving through the Secret Service barricades at Mar-a-Lago.

    I suspect most female opera stars are off their chump, probably due to some kind of hormone imbalance or lupus.

  65. @donvonburg
    If they are for nuclear power and if they are buying land that is worthless now but would be prime real estate if waters rose, while getting out of future underwater areas like Malibu, they might really believe in AGW and its consequences. If they are not they do not.


    It is no more complicated than that.

    As for real estate, even people that think markets are magic don’t think markets can say much about the future past ~20 years from now because of the present discount of future earnings. And noone claims its even possible to pinpoint future prime real estate because noone knows what future emissions will be, what kind of countermeasures (e.g. sea walls, carbon sequestration, etc.) will be deployed, or even the exact consequences of fixed emissions holding all else equal.

    Noone doubts that Venice has serious problems that need to be addressed to prevent it from sinking into the adriatic, but go try to buy a house in venice (spoiler alert: they’re really fucking expensive).

    As for nuclear energy, one is perfectly allowed to think that greenhouse gas emissions and nuclear energy are both bad things. Not to mention that the kind of breakneck nuclear expansion needed to replace a significant portion of current carbon emitting sources of energy in a timely manner would itself cause new safety issues and, by many accounts, would be impossible due to shortages in highly specialized materials and expertise.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad


    As for real estate, even people that think markets are magic don’t think markets can say much about the future past ~20 years from now because of the present discount of future earnings ...

     

    As for the beach property indicator, you make a good case. Both the discount rate and the "where's the beach going to be" make assessing real belief there very difficult.

    Nonetheless, i think it's fair to say that with today's (QE age) discount rates it's pretty clear rich people don't believe global warming is going to change everything ... real soon. They'll be seriously underwater if they end up underwater.

    But your nuclear power take:


    As for nuclear energy, one is perfectly allowed to think that greenhouse gas emissions and nuclear energy are both bad things. Not to mention that the kind of breakneck nuclear expansion needed to replace a significant portion of current carbon emitting sources of energy in a timely manner would itself cause new safety issues and, by many accounts, would be impossible due to shortages in highly specialized materials and expertise.
     
    does not wash.

    Sure most enviros think nukes have kooties.

    But if global warming is the existential crisis , the crisis that will absolutely sink humanity, the planet, then even if you believe you'll have some radiactive sites, and some (it's a small volume) radiative waste ... you are willing to do that to give people a "save the planet" option that gets them on board--i.e. doesn't involve turning them into serfs on the organic pig farm ... or soylent green.

    It's true that in the minds of some enviros the nuke thing is also an apocalyptic nightmare of "poisoned earth". But if that's their level of scientific literacy and basic numeracy ... why should we pay any attention to their opinion about the far more complex issue of global warming?

    No, in fact, the nuclear energy position is a very clear indicator. We have this technology that while it requires some serious management and safety discipline--tractable regulatory projects-- works right now and emits zero CO2. And--excepting a few serious global warming scientists on board--the vast apparatus of global warming politicians, activists, scribblers and screechers ... do not want to use it!

    Maybe global warming as an ideology, a political movement, is about something else?
  66. @Bardon Kaldian
    This all is sick, sick, sick....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sPj8HhbwHs

    I watched it until the end by which point it became obvious that the intersex parent was punishing his children for society struggling with accomodating the intersex, and worse, punishing his children for being uncomplicatedly biological males.

    Mental.

  67. @Guy De Champlagne
    Conservatism is becoming defined and dominated by dysfunctional whites and a dysfunctional white ethos. What that means about conservatism itself as opposed to the vagaries and randomness of the ways that political coalitions emerge is a debate you can have, but you can't just wish away white conservative dysfunction.

    And you can't wish away the incredible success of cultural liberalism. The vast majority of the whites with prestige, money, status, and influence in the US embrace not cultural liberalism but an increasingly strident and extreme version of it but you want us to think that they're all broken and mired in their dysfunction. You sound completely ridiculous.

    The vast majority of the whites with prestige, money, status, and influence in the US embrace not cultural liberalism but an increasingly strident and extreme version of it but you want us to think that they’re all broken and mired in their dysfunction.

    I think the point you’re making is clear to anyone who reads Steve. The modern democrat party sees the most privileged whites as the only good ones, while the whites without privilege are the scum of the earth. It’s refreshing to see someone from your side confirm that so openly. I applaud your candor, if nothing else.

    When, exactly, did the democrats become the elitist party? I’m old enough to remember when the democrats at least pretended they were the party of the working man. Maybe it was Regan. Maybe it was an inevitable consequence of the 1965 immigration act. Regardless, I don’t see how they can still claim the republicans are the party of the rich, while constantly bragging that all the rich people are democrats. And it’s downright bizarre that the ninth richest man on earth is currently running as a democrat, at least partially on the claim that it’s poor whites, not “self made” multi-billionaires, who are the privileged oppressors. Somehow, by hybridizing race and class conflict, the rich whites have managed to actually increase their power, while blaming all the world’s problems on poor whites, who never had any more power than the “oppressed minorities.” I guess that’s what happens when a single political party and the media become indistinguishable from each other.

    • Agree: Autochthon, Alden
  68. @Almost Missouri
    Not saying cultural liberalism hasn't affected nominally non-liberals, including myself. That's the price we are all paying for its ascendancy.

    But how are cult-lib überspawn such as Hunter Biden and Mikaela Spielberg doing?

    Hunter Biden’s doing very well.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Corrupt junkie stripper impregnator = "very well".

    OK.
  69. @Lugash

    We carried on like that for 12 years. It was arduous but great fun. We spent two months in each city and then moved on. Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona. Round and round. We spent the summers in Glyndebourne, Salzburg or Aix-en-Provence. As you do when you’re good at singing opera and other classical music. I rehearsed 20 to 30 hours a week and the rest of the time we spent together.

    Beata was born three years after Greta and we bought a Volvo V70 so we’d have room for doll’s houses, teddy bears and tricycles. Those were fantastic years. Our life was marvellous.
     
    Mom's life was marvelous. I wonder if the constant travel and foreign stimulus and upheaval slowly wore down the autistic Greta until she couldn't take it anymore.

    Mom’s life was marvelous. I wonder if the constant travel and foreign stimulus and upheaval slowly wore down the autistic Greta until she couldn’t take it anymore.

    Maybe like Obama, Greta wants to spend most of her time in solitude either vegetating or fantasizing.

  70. @Achmed E. Newman

    Another question is whether Greta is directly descended from 1903 Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius, inventor of the Greenhouse Theory, or merely related to him.
     
    Huh, that'd be a hoot. Speaking of greenhouses, working in one for a few years doing manual labor taking care of the greenery is probably one thing that would make Greta Betta.

    Working in a greenhouse would probably be very good for her. It sounds like public school has done damage.

  71. @miss marple
    One blogger I read frequently is now practicing medicine without a license while iSteve attempts psychiatry without a license. I've reached a conclusion:

    It's midlife crisis week!

    Psychiatry? Steve’s giving out drugs?

  72. @advancedatheist
    If Greta grew up in a country where she could see that the people who ran things valued white children like her, worked to protect their interests and invested resources into their success, she would feel a lot better about her life.

    If Greta grew up in a country where she could see that the people who ran things valued white children like her, worked to protect their interests and invested resources into their success, she would feel a lot better about her life.

    Well said AA.

    And i’d add
    — where the children where instilled with pride in their nation, culture, race and civilization
    — where the boys were encouraged toward the physical and mental strength to be ready fight to preserve their nation as well as productively provide for their future families
    — where the girls were encouraged toward making themselves ready to be and understanding they’ll find fulfillment in being loving, conscientious wives and mothers.

    If that was the case, these “gender dysphoria” girls would almost all have crushes–often returned–on some boy, and even nerdy Greta would probably find some nerdy boy who thought she was neat and wanted to hang out with her.

    Male and female humans naturally enjoy each other quite a bit. It takes minoritarianism to ruin that and turn it into this mentally ill, socio-sexual dystopia.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, sayless
    • Replies: @donut
    Where is this White Wakanda ?
  73. @Achmed E. Newman

    Another question is whether Greta is directly descended from 1903 Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius, inventor of the Greenhouse Theory, or merely related to him.
     
    Huh, that'd be a hoot. Speaking of greenhouses, working in one for a few years doing manual labor taking care of the greenery is probably one thing that would make Greta Betta.

    Greta and her family look like they’re in pretty good shape. It’s much more the people who whon’t shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry “assault weapons” to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Couldn't find the [Retard] switch, so I'll bite: I didn't see a lot of obese people at the gun rally in Richmond, Virginia last month, maybe 1 in 50 or so. Most Americans do have a little extra heft, but then a little bit of manual labor now and then would be good in that case, would it not?

    I'm no doctor, but Greta and her family seem in good physical shape. That wasn't the point. Working with your hands for a spell is good for the brain. Philosophizing for long periods of time can be bad for one's mental state. Listen to this song by a couple of Athens musicians from way back, and see if you can understand ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTI2GGNFR_U

    Gotta get out of bed, get a hammer and a nail,
    learn how to use my hands,
    not just my head
    I think myself into jail.
    Now I know a refuge never grows
    from a chin in a hand in a thoughtful pose.
    Gotta tend the earth if you want a rose.
    , @Ted Bell
    Why do you hate the working class so much? Do you genuinely believe yourself to be superior to those of us who do something other than type on a keyboard for a living? Have working class people hurt you, in some way?

    From where I sit, it looks like you're just trying to assuage your guilt over having money/power that you don't feel you legitimately earned.
    , @Autochthon

    [T]he people who whon’t shut up about the value of manual labor ... are morbidly obese.
     
    http://static-29.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/79db07ce-9071-4e8d-a12a-f7d89a19946f-wenn5556736.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a5/63/77/a56377889b0c93d472e3f1e2ac54b643.jpg

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nbkht7HcFjY/maxresdefault.jpg
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    That strawman is so bad the crows are buttering their corn on the cob atop its mishapen head.
    , @Svigor
    "It’s much more the people who whon’t shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry “assault weapons” to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese."

    If that were so, blacks would vote GOP @90%, not Democrat.
  74. @Calvin Hobbes
    On Steve’s theme of women obsessing about themselves, here’s something from The Guardian:


    'Vagina is not a rude word': the scientist fighting to empower women, one word at a time
    Twenty years ago, Catherine Blackledge’s history of the vagina The Story of V broke boundaries. As it is reissued, she talks about anasyrma as activism and why we lie about the clitoris

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/feb/20/vagina-is-not-a-rude-word-catherine-blackledge-raising-the-skirt


    “I think there’s there’s a moment that every person born with a vagina shares, and that is when you realise that you are treated differently to people who have a penis, that you are not treated with the same level of respect,” she says. “I do think women were all wounded in some way. We feel negative about our genitalia, because it seems to be the source of why we are treated differently.”
    ...
    She gives the example of ova, which are 80,000 times bigger than sperm. “We have this idea of the sperm going on this valiant and action-packed journey to the egg. But we know now that the game is always played on her turf. She controls the action, she pulls the sperm to her and she engulfs it. The language that we use in so many things is always about male active, female passive. When that changes, I think it will be a dramatic shift. We’re stuck in the old language at the moment.”

    Yesterday, Steve adapted something Lucky Day says in “The Three Amigos”. Here’s another quote from that movie:

    Rosita: I was thinking later, you could kiss me on the veranda.
    Dusty Bottoms: Lips would be fine.

    And here’s another quote from this vagina article:

    She believes parents should just say vagina and vulva, but suggests that “if the UK wants a new non-anatomical word, my vote is for verenda. It’s an old word for the vagina and means ‘the parts that inspire awe or respect’. Grace, gravitas and a great provenance combined.”

    “My work has been called very vaginal. The word often makes men uncomfortable. Vagina.”
    – Maude Lebowski

    I have a 7 year old girl. Our euphemism for her privates is “petunia.”

  75. @Sean
    They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5'4'' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    https://www.3quarksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2901-288x360.jpg

    I'd say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad's mom was very short.

    Many Swedes grow to their adult height quite slowly. Menarche also arrives late relative to other peoples.

    • Replies: @Sean
    Anorexia delays menarche. Body fat triggers puberty in girls and in females puberty halts growth. So if anything a fat little girl will be shorter than her potential.

    Given her ability to make speeches in fluent English before huge audience, the idea that she has Asperger's is rather silly. Greta is a rhetorician and influencer like Trump. I don't think her environmentalism is a bad thing at all, but she still has a lot to learn about the world, especially the fact that the lion's share of the pollution is being by China.

  76. “…transformation from bullied teenager to climate icon.”

    What, she’s a superhero now?

  77. @Anon
    Wikipedia has a ridiculously titled page called "Voyage of Greta Thunberg."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_Greta_Thunberg

    I like to watch sailing videos on YouTube. My favorite sub-genre is the solo sailer, especially the reckless ones who sail into gales on small monohulls on long transoceanic passages.

    But there's another sub-genre in which a couple with minimal sailing experience will exit the rat race, buy a boat, and sail the world living the "cruising" lifestyle (think RVs on the ocean), documenting everything on video and making money from Google ads and Patreon. The hotness of the female seems to determine the relative success of these videos. These couples will often sail on catamarans rather than monohulls. Cats are not as seaworthy as monohulls, but they allow for spacious and luxurious digs: full kitchen, toilets, bedrooms, salon, chart desk, etc.

    On her return trip Greta somehow got hooked up with one of these cat couples, an Australian duo, and they turned Greta's return trip into a clickbaity episode of their continuing reality-show saga, complete with a seasick Greta in the fetal position.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=frZI857axRs

    LOL. I’ve been half-jokingly suggesting to my second wife that we sell the condo and buy a catamaran and live at Waikiki beach.

    • Replies: @Anon

    LOL. I’ve been half-jokingly suggesting to my second wife that we sell the condo and buy a catamaran and live at Waikiki beach.
     
    Hawaii turns out not to be the most "cruiser"-friendly location. I recommend the YouTube videos set in Hawaii on Sam Holmes's channel. He's a 30ish guy who quit a job as a Disney "imagineer" (industrial designer by training) to sail to Hawaii from Los Angeles on old 23-foot monohull and then sailed around the islands for a few months. It's a great location, but with sparse cruising support, raging currents, and racist natives who show up on kayaks and threaten to kill you. Holmes ultimately sold his boat, did a lucrative consulting gig in Japan for Disney, then relocated to the East coast on a new 26-foot boat, planning for a circumnavigation.
  78. @Guy De Champlagne
    Yes Greta Thurnberg is a ridiculous figure in lots of ways (although a quite enthralling and enchanting one as well) but the people arguing for the reality of AGW and taking actions to reverse it have lots of people on their side, including a solid consensus of scientists. So who really are the ridiculous ones?

    Sanity is not statistical.

  79. Maybe Greta could use a transition. Maybe the root of her problem is a stumped extension of her ego-need to extend herself into nature.

    That trip across the North Atlantic was impressive. A little surgery would be easy after that.

    C’mon man! Doesn’t this idea fit into her universe? The one we all are forced to inhabit?

  80. OT but Swedish nonetheless,

    Beside Thunberg, Sweden has been graced with 230 bombings last year, and police are have published a list of 32 wanted gang members.

    No less than 17 are immigrants.

    The remainder are merely children of immigrants.

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    The conclusion was that since only half are immigrants this has nothing to do with immigration.

    I'll let others interpret that.
  81. In an age where transgenders are normalized and pushed upon children it seems appropriate that the liberal media follows the rantings of a crazy girl.

  82. The deformed oracle child from Midsommar turned out to be a very literal metaphor.

  83. @Cloudbuster
    In school one day, Greta’s class watches a film about how much rubbish there is in the oceans. An island of plastic, larger than Mexico, is floating around in the South Pacific. Greta cries throughout the film.

    Teachers should be fired, if not jailed, for misinforming kids like this.

    Lies like how the great pacific garbage patch is actually only 1.6 million square km while mexico is actually 1.9 million? Or lies like how its not literally an island and is only an obvious metaphor?

    • Replies: @anon
    Assume a ginormous floating wad of plastic exists in the mid Pacific of whatever size.

    What's the source? Some river or other, perhaps? Can you name the rivers in question?

    Then can you explain why that blob of plastic must be the fault of wypipo?
    , @Cloudbuster
    There is no visible blob of plastic or garbage in the middle of the Pacific. It's not an obvious metaphor to the kids and in every article I've seen regarding this, deliberate misinformation has been encouraged by accompanying the story with close-up shots of polluted urban waterways in India or Brazil, or garbage-filled coastal waters in the wake of a major tsunami. I have no doubt the kids' lessons do the same.

    I also doubt Greta was informed by her teacher that the invisible microplastics in the Pacific gyre (micropastics that are only extremely speculatively harmful) largely come from Asia, or she wouldn't spend all her time haranguing Westerners, would she?
    , @Coemgen
    What are the coordinates of this "garbage patch" floating on the Pacific? I want to look it up on Google maps.
    , @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Name one climate-related measure that is trending in a worrisome direction.
    , @J.Ross
    It is absolutely not an "obvious metaphor." It was never called a metaphor until it was called out, and NPR had at least one story from a guy who claimed to have encountered "it" while sailing. And anyway the context here is a Swedish teacher instructing children.
    , @Svigor
    The same people who want me to believe their sky-is-falling scheme about the climate oscillate between denying whites are being slowly genocided/extinctified, justifying the slow genocide/extinction of whites, or cheering the slow genocide/extinction of whites.

    I'm handcuffed to the bedpost and my house is burning down around me and they're saying "fuck you, I'm keeping the keys, now give me your wallet so I can prevent my house being burned down."

    There's really no proportionate way to say, "go fuck yourself" to that.

    Until they start sh0wing as much interest in whites surviving as they do in the snowy egret or the snail darter, this planet can burn to a cinder, for all I care. I'll be oscillating between denial, justification, and celebration.

  84. the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally.

    That’s so mean!

    How interesting it would be to see this hypothesis tested in some clever way – not using replication crisis methodology.

  85. In school one day, Greta’s class watches a film about how much rubbish there is in the oceans. An island of plastic, larger than Mexico, is floating around in the South Pacific. Greta cries throughout the film.

    The Garbage Patch Kids

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  86. @AnotherDad
    Just from some iSteve posts in the past few days:

    Angela Saini
    Subhadra Das
    Mikki Kendall
    Swedish teen girls' "gender dysphoria" explosion
    Malena Ernman
    Great Thurnberg

    Has there been *any* benefit to women's "liberation"? And specifically to inviting women to "become part of the conversation". Has the quality of "the conversation" improved? Has human knowledge increased? Does Western civilization function better?

    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?

    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?

    Well, we know the answer to that, according to surveys in the social sciences, and it is “no.”

  87. We cross the bloodlines: Pete Buttplug breeds with Greta Thunberg, and the half-blood prince, Alfred E. Neumann, is born. The world is saved!

    On a more serious note, Greta is in the entertainment biz, just like mum and dad.

    One day near her 11th birthday I find her standing in the living room, hurling DVDs from the bookshelf down the spiral staircase to the kitchen. “You only care about Greta. Never about me. I hate you, Mum.” …

    Histrionics in a family of entertainers, not exactly out of left field.

    She was the child, we were the emperor. And we were all naked.

    “I’ve found your weakness; you are not shameless scolds, and I am!” I’ve found my niche!

  88. @Kronos

    That’s why a feel genuine sadness for people like Greta and David Hogg. There is so much more they could do with their lives.
     
    I’m guessing Hogg is a cold calculator and quickly realized he stumbled on a gold mine. He played his cards right and got straight into Harvard. There’s a good chance of a political/lobbyist career soon after graduation. Greta is a autistic child being paraded around by the climate cult. One child crusader is more cognitively able than the other.

    • LOL: John Regan
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Strangely, Hogg actually makes a pretty good kathoey.
    , @Kronos
    This further supports my point. Hogg appears to be a cognitively healthy and physically able (he isn’t wheelchair bound or disfigured from the shooting.) Thus he’s fair game. If he was a genuine tranny, he (or she) would be able to use hate crime/civil rights legislation.

    But grilling Greta is difficult on account of her being a funny looking autistic kid. Most people find it challenging to “punch down” against their social lessers (especially if they’re waaay down.) Thus people get walked all over by them. Kinda brings to mind Nietzsche‘s notion that “The strong must be protected from the weak” kinda thing. Greta’s “dangerous” precisely because it’s shameful to make fun of such people. That the Oprah fans will tear you to pieces for being an asshole.

    https://youtu.be/UrgpZ0fUixs

    , @Reg Cæsar
    Hogg drove to school that morning. Statistically, that is far more dangerous than firearms ownership. Especially for teens.
  89. @AnotherDad
    Just from some iSteve posts in the past few days:

    Angela Saini
    Subhadra Das
    Mikki Kendall
    Swedish teen girls' "gender dysphoria" explosion
    Malena Ernman
    Great Thurnberg

    Has there been *any* benefit to women's "liberation"? And specifically to inviting women to "become part of the conversation". Has the quality of "the conversation" improved? Has human knowledge increased? Does Western civilization function better?

    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?

    No, no, no, no, no, and no.

    Just minutes ago I was discussing this with a friend in the USA. Women exist to give birth, to nurture, and to pray.

    They are far better than men at all three.

    Let’s leave them to it and get on with re-ordering the world.

    • Replies: @Lot
    You are right on all points.

    However, I think we need to be more diplomatic than:

    “Women exist to give birth, to nurture, and to pray.”

    Relatedly, the share of couples where the woman out-earns the man is going to keep rising. I think we had a slight respite from this longterm trend because of some Trump’s policies, and AD and I suggested other ways to correct it.

    Nonetheless, the background trend of female-strength jobs replacing male-strength jobs will continue.
  90. @Achmed E. Newman

    One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally.
     
    Did Greta's parents really become mentally ill, though, or are they just doing a massive job of humoring her? With kids, some people do have to make big sacrifices. It's hard to keep up with a busy schedule at Opera venues around the world with a catamaran. Though at least Malena sacrificed her jet-setting career, I wonder if Svante and Malena really believe the CO2-will-be-the-death-of-us hype at all. They likely sacrificed for Greta and the little one, rather than for Mother Gaia.

    “at least Malena sacrificed her jet-setting career”

    Unfortunately, 11 years too late. They did it for 12 years, starting when Malena was pregnant with Greta. Not so bad with a baby or toddler, but at school age imagine either

    a) being abandoned by your parents for two months at a time – not once, but several times a year for maybe seven or eight years

    b) moving cities and schools every two months – never, ever, being able to develop close friendships with other children – or in the event that you do, leaving again, and when you return in a year they’ve moved on and have other friends

    She’d have been better off in a boarding school where she’d have made friends with other girls.

    She’s been robbed of her childhood – but not by Donald Trump.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  91. CV Panic Update:

    Northern Italy is shutting down. Milan Fashion Week and Venice Carnivale cancelled. Schools closed.

    SK: Two major cell phone factories closed due to infected employees. Auto factories closed due lack of parts from China. 600+ cases and reports are worse each day.

    Iran: Movie theaters ordered closed nationwide, schools shut down in Tehran and half the rest of the country. 8 confirmed deaths so far and 2% mortality rate suggests Iran had at least 400 cases circa Feb 10, could be 10,000 by now. The infection reports in so many different regions suggests disaster.

    Turkey, Armenia, and Pakistan have sealed their borders.

    China: reporting fewer new cases in Shanghai and Beijing than a single church is reporting in South Korea.

    The old tactic was shut everything down, now it is deny everything and drag away and “disappear” to a “hospital” anyone with a bad fever. This might be the best policy, panic/economic collapse is worse than the virus’s actual death toll.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Wondering when China actually starts going back to work? Check TomTom real time traffic. Just once city I picked at random, but the trend is in all of them:

    https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic-index/chengdu-traffic

    Look at the difference between 2019 and 2020 traffic on the 7-day graphs.

    This shows: Every city in China basically shut down, and Taiwan, Singapore, Milan, and Japan are partly shut down. Malaysia and random other cities in the USA and Italy I checked are all normal.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    If it's so bad out there where are the video clips of corpse pyramids being set on fire? Or zombie hordes overrunning a couple mechanized battalions?
  92. @Old Palo Altan
    No, no, no, no, no, and no.

    Just minutes ago I was discussing this with a friend in the USA. Women exist to give birth, to nurture, and to pray.

    They are far better than men at all three.

    Let's leave them to it and get on with re-ordering the world.

    You are right on all points.

    However, I think we need to be more diplomatic than:

    “Women exist to give birth, to nurture, and to pray.”

    Relatedly, the share of couples where the woman out-earns the man is going to keep rising. I think we had a slight respite from this longterm trend because of some Trump’s policies, and AD and I suggested other ways to correct it.

    Nonetheless, the background trend of female-strength jobs replacing male-strength jobs will continue.

  93. @advancedatheist
    If Greta grew up in a country where she could see that the people who ran things valued white children like her, worked to protect their interests and invested resources into their success, she would feel a lot better about her life.

    It is very possible that Ms. Thunberg simply believes what she is told. Her classmates can feign concern, but understand that actions show he truth, and see that no one is acting to solve these problems. Therefore, the problems must not be real, or not significant, and they accordingly are not bothered. This disconnect between propaganda and action is intuited by the vast majority of students who observe it.

    Now, imagine that you actually believe the things you are told. You see these massive, civilization-threatening crises that people tell you will steal your childhood and ruin your life. Then you see it not translated into action, and your only logical conclusion is that the adults in the room are either criminally unconcerned about future generations or actively trying to destroy you. At some point it becomes impossible to even consider the idea that you had been lied to all along. How could you not fight at that point? Especially if your parents are encouraging you for any reason.

    The vast majority of humans can understand the difference between what they are told people have to care about, and what they see people actually care about. But some, likely people afflicted with autism in many cases, and in other cases being a computer outwitted by Captain Kirk, might not be able to distinguish.

  94. @AnotherDad
    Just from some iSteve posts in the past few days:

    Angela Saini
    Subhadra Das
    Mikki Kendall
    Swedish teen girls' "gender dysphoria" explosion
    Malena Ernman
    Great Thurnberg

    Has there been *any* benefit to women's "liberation"? And specifically to inviting women to "become part of the conversation". Has the quality of "the conversation" improved? Has human knowledge increased? Does Western civilization function better?

    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?

    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?

    Not being a traditionalist, I would answer: it depends. For some, life is assuredly better & more fulfilled. For some – exactly the opposite.

  95. @Lot
    CV Panic Update:

    Northern Italy is shutting down. Milan Fashion Week and Venice Carnivale cancelled. Schools closed.

    SK: Two major cell phone factories closed due to infected employees. Auto factories closed due lack of parts from China. 600+ cases and reports are worse each day.

    Iran: Movie theaters ordered closed nationwide, schools shut down in Tehran and half the rest of the country. 8 confirmed deaths so far and 2% mortality rate suggests Iran had at least 400 cases circa Feb 10, could be 10,000 by now. The infection reports in so many different regions suggests disaster.

    Turkey, Armenia, and Pakistan have sealed their borders.

    China: reporting fewer new cases in Shanghai and Beijing than a single church is reporting in South Korea.

    The old tactic was shut everything down, now it is deny everything and drag away and “disappear” to a “hospital” anyone with a bad fever. This might be the best policy, panic/economic collapse is worse than the virus’s actual death toll.

    Wondering when China actually starts going back to work? Check TomTom real time traffic. Just once city I picked at random, but the trend is in all of them:

    https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic-index/chengdu-traffic

    Look at the difference between 2019 and 2020 traffic on the 7-day graphs.

    This shows: Every city in China basically shut down, and Taiwan, Singapore, Milan, and Japan are partly shut down. Malaysia and random other cities in the USA and Italy I checked are all normal.

  96. @Guy De Champlagne
    Greta and her family look like they're in pretty good shape. It's much more the people who whon't shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry "assault weapons" to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese.

    Couldn’t find the [Retard] switch, so I’ll bite: I didn’t see a lot of obese people at the gun rally in Richmond, Virginia last month, maybe 1 in 50 or so. Most Americans do have a little extra heft, but then a little bit of manual labor now and then would be good in that case, would it not?

    I’m no doctor, but Greta and her family seem in good physical shape. That wasn’t the point. Working with your hands for a spell is good for the brain. Philosophizing for long periods of time can be bad for one’s mental state. Listen to this song by a couple of Athens musicians from way back, and see if you can understand …

    Gotta get out of bed, get a hammer and a nail,
    learn how to use my hands,
    not just my head
    I think myself into jail.
    Now I know a refuge never grows
    from a chin in a hand in a thoughtful pose.
    Gotta tend the earth if you want a rose.

    • Agree: advancedatheist
    • Replies: @Danindc
    Phenomenal song. They had some good ones. Very fun.
  97. @Guy De Champlagne
    Lies like how the great pacific garbage patch is actually only 1.6 million square km while mexico is actually 1.9 million? Or lies like how its not literally an island and is only an obvious metaphor?

    Assume a ginormous floating wad of plastic exists in the mid Pacific of whatever size.

    What’s the source? Some river or other, perhaps? Can you name the rivers in question?

    Then can you explain why that blob of plastic must be the fault of wypipo?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Then can you explain why that blob of plastic must be the fault of wypipo?
     
    It consists primarily of used tubes of Darkie toothpaste.


    https://digitalcommons.usm.maine.edu/aas_items/1002/preview.jpg

  98. @Guy De Champlagne
    Greta and her family look like they're in pretty good shape. It's much more the people who whon't shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry "assault weapons" to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese.

    Why do you hate the working class so much? Do you genuinely believe yourself to be superior to those of us who do something other than type on a keyboard for a living? Have working class people hurt you, in some way?

    From where I sit, it looks like you’re just trying to assuage your guilt over having money/power that you don’t feel you legitimately earned.

  99. Regarding when everyone goes back to work in China, Miles Guo at gnews.org has been saying February 29th is the big back to work day. Return to work or else.

  100. One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally.

    Interesting and very useful concept, but I would guess that this is a negative sum game—one would have to offload multiple units of crazy for each unit of relief obtained, which may explain why civilized societies keep the crazy locked up.

  101. @AnotherDad
    Just from some iSteve posts in the past few days:

    Angela Saini
    Subhadra Das
    Mikki Kendall
    Swedish teen girls' "gender dysphoria" explosion
    Malena Ernman
    Great Thurnberg

    Has there been *any* benefit to women's "liberation"? And specifically to inviting women to "become part of the conversation". Has the quality of "the conversation" improved? Has human knowledge increased? Does Western civilization function better?

    Heck even the simplest bar: Are women actually happier in this new order?

    Like how the benefits of immigration goes to rich people and the immigrants themselves, the benefits of feminism have gone to rich people and women.

  102. @Alden
    Hunter Biden’s doing very well.

    Corrupt junkie stripper impregnator = “very well”.

    OK.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I mis understood you. I thought you meant financially career wise. You meant morally.
    Financially he’s done very well.
  103. @Guy De Champlagne
    Greta and her family look like they're in pretty good shape. It's much more the people who whon't shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry "assault weapons" to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese.

    [T]he people who whon’t shut up about the value of manual labor … are morbidly obese.

  104. @Polynikes
    Sounds like Greta is a way for her two artistic parents to finally make some money of their own.

    No no,

    how dare you and so on…

    I don’t know about her dad but her mom is clearly mentally ill herself and if these things are genetic then it could explain a few things since both daughters have issues.

    Mom used to be a fanatical open borders campaigner around the time Greta was ill. At the same time she’s having some sort of artistic career where she’s away from home quite a lot.

    Maybe Greta needed her mom? I don’t know, maybe it’s that easy?

    • Replies: @Alden
    Many kids would be much better off without their Moms.
  105. @a reader
    OT but Swedish nonetheless,

    Beside Thunberg, Sweden has been graced with 230 bombings last year, and police are have published a list of 32 wanted gang members.

    No less than 17 are immigrants.

    The remainder are merely children of immigrants.

    The conclusion was that since only half are immigrants this has nothing to do with immigration.

    I’ll let others interpret that.

  106. The Red Chinese dictatorship produces a lot of unintentional laughs.

    This guy might just have a mild case of the regular flu or a head cold. But when he’s locked up with and sharing air and dining facilities and bathrooms in a hastily constructed “hospital” with actual corona-infected people….

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Pheasant
    Hilarious.
  107. @AnotherDad

    One blogger I read frequently is now practicing medicine without a license while iSteve attempts psychiatry without a license. I’ve reached a conclusion:

    It’s midlife crisis week!
     
    "psychiatry without a license" is pretty much the 2nd oldest recreational activity of mankind. (I.e. b.s.ing about how screwed up other people are.)

    “psychiatry without a license”!

    The concept of unauthorized musing about human behavior could only occur to someone in The Current Year.
    “Oy mate, you wanna come down to the Yard and explain your interest in human behaviah, eh?”

    “…midlife crisis week”

    The reality that age produces experience and sometimes even wisdom, also, could only be disparaged in The Current Year.

    But whatever year it is, it still takes a douchebag to do it!

    • Agree: Ragno
  108. @Lot
    CV Panic Update:

    Northern Italy is shutting down. Milan Fashion Week and Venice Carnivale cancelled. Schools closed.

    SK: Two major cell phone factories closed due to infected employees. Auto factories closed due lack of parts from China. 600+ cases and reports are worse each day.

    Iran: Movie theaters ordered closed nationwide, schools shut down in Tehran and half the rest of the country. 8 confirmed deaths so far and 2% mortality rate suggests Iran had at least 400 cases circa Feb 10, could be 10,000 by now. The infection reports in so many different regions suggests disaster.

    Turkey, Armenia, and Pakistan have sealed their borders.

    China: reporting fewer new cases in Shanghai and Beijing than a single church is reporting in South Korea.

    The old tactic was shut everything down, now it is deny everything and drag away and “disappear” to a “hospital” anyone with a bad fever. This might be the best policy, panic/economic collapse is worse than the virus’s actual death toll.

    If it’s so bad out there where are the video clips of corpse pyramids being set on fire? Or zombie hordes overrunning a couple mechanized battalions?

    • Replies: @Change that Matters

    corpse pyramids being set on fire
     
    This has instantly become my "when to panic" indicator of choice!
  109. @sayless
    Many Swedes grow to their adult height quite slowly. Menarche also arrives late relative to other peoples.

    Anorexia delays menarche. Body fat triggers puberty in girls and in females puberty halts growth. So if anything a fat little girl will be shorter than her potential.

    Given her ability to make speeches in fluent English before huge audience, the idea that she has Asperger’s is rather silly. Greta is a rhetorician and influencer like Trump. I don’t think her environmentalism is a bad thing at all, but she still has a lot to learn about the world, especially the fact that the lion’s share of the pollution is being by China.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    Greta is an actress, just like her mum, and her famous theatrical ancestors.
    Some child actors make movies and shows.
    Greta should have received an Oscar for her performance.
  110. One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally

    Is there a link or name to that theory? Sounds interesting.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Somebody I know made it up.
  111. @Hippopotamusdrome
    https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/greta-thunberg-pointing-at-trump-how-dare-you-india-china-shes-not-talking-to-us-is-she-nah-were-good.jpg

    (Re: Cartoon of India and China polluting)

    That reducing carbon emissions is impossible is known to everyone, according to what the Wall St. Journal’s factual Holman Jenkins recently wrote. He wrote that “everyone“ (or “everybody“, I can’t recall which) already knows that the only possible solution lies in geoengineering. An irony: Greta has her yacht, and the global-warming answer might be the so-called misting yachts, increasing the earth’s albedo.

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    That reducing carbon emissions is impossible is known to everyone, according to what the Wall St. Journal’s factual Holman Jenkins recently wrote.

    The technology exists to sequester carbon underground at the point of generation and have it be absorbed permanently into geologic formations over a course of decades. You do that with a mix of fossil and biofuels, using the latter to offset unsequestered fossiel fuel emissions from other sources like cars and furnaces. No crackpot, untested geoengineering with unpredictable and unequal consequences necessary. You do have to accept reduction in consumption and decide what to do with all the people that legitimately can't afford carbon free energy (i.e people living so close to subsistence that more expensive energy will push them over the edge).

  112. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @BenKenobi
    LOL. I’ve been half-jokingly suggesting to my second wife that we sell the condo and buy a catamaran and live at Waikiki beach.

    LOL. I’ve been half-jokingly suggesting to my second wife that we sell the condo and buy a catamaran and live at Waikiki beach.

    Hawaii turns out not to be the most “cruiser”-friendly location. I recommend the YouTube videos set in Hawaii on Sam Holmes’s channel. He’s a 30ish guy who quit a job as a Disney “imagineer” (industrial designer by training) to sail to Hawaii from Los Angeles on old 23-foot monohull and then sailed around the islands for a few months. It’s a great location, but with sparse cruising support, raging currents, and racist natives who show up on kayaks and threaten to kill you. Holmes ultimately sold his boat, did a lucrative consulting gig in Japan for Disney, then relocated to the East coast on a new 26-foot boat, planning for a circumnavigation.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    Native Hawaiians seem like total assholes
    , @Change that Matters

    and racist natives who show up on kayaks and threaten to kill you
     
    We've known that's on the cards for sailors visiting Hawaii for 240 years...
  113. @George
    One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally

    Is there a link or name to that theory? Sounds interesting.

    Somebody I know made it up.

  114. One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally.

    That would explain a lot of the gender freaks’ demands. Their concept of their rights has been expanded to having the rest of society reflect their mental illness. But something tells me they’d still be miserable regardless.

  115. Anonymous[353] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51608459

    Hamburg election: Merkel party ‘slumps as Greens surge’

    … The far-right AfD lost ground but may just qualify for seats.

    … The AfD has grown in popularity in recent years but has been condemned for its extreme views on immigration, freedom of speech and the press.

    … Meanwhile Greens national co-leader Robert Habeck told German TV the party’s performance was a great success.

    … The party may have benefited from the presence of climate activist Greta Thunberg, who joined thousands of people in a demonstration in the city on Friday.

  116. @SafeNow
    (Re: Cartoon of India and China polluting)

    That reducing carbon emissions is impossible is known to everyone, according to what the Wall St. Journal’s factual Holman Jenkins recently wrote. He wrote that “everyone“ (or “everybody“, I can’t recall which) already knows that the only possible solution lies in geoengineering. An irony: Greta has her yacht, and the global-warming answer might be the so-called misting yachts, increasing the earth’s albedo.

    That reducing carbon emissions is impossible is known to everyone, according to what the Wall St. Journal’s factual Holman Jenkins recently wrote.

    The technology exists to sequester carbon underground at the point of generation and have it be absorbed permanently into geologic formations over a course of decades. You do that with a mix of fossil and biofuels, using the latter to offset unsequestered fossiel fuel emissions from other sources like cars and furnaces. No crackpot, untested geoengineering with unpredictable and unequal consequences necessary. You do have to accept reduction in consumption and decide what to do with all the people that legitimately can’t afford carbon free energy (i.e people living so close to subsistence that more expensive energy will push them over the edge).

    • Replies: @newrouter
    >You do have to accept reduction in consumption and decide what to do with all the people that legitimately can’t afford carbon free energy<

    You communists really enjoy killing millions of people at a time.
    , @Kratoklastes

    You do have to accept reduction in consumption
     
    No we don't. If some crackpots want to engage in millenarian Malthusian fantasies, let them fund the fucking thing by foregoing their own consumption.

    The main characteristic of people who are prepared to force their ideas on entire societies, is not 'concern for the public good': it's just conceit, hubris, narcissism, and megalomania.

    I make an immodest proposal which would make these fuckwits go away in less than a month.


    Make a very careful tally of everyone who dissents to the costs imposed by climate policy.

    After each 10 year period, compensate these people 100% (plus COLA plus interest) of the per-capita tax taken from them, if actual increases in temperature are below the upper bound of a 'no change' forecast envelope.

    Fund the compensation by taking 100% of the property of anyone who made a (failed) 'catastrophe' forecast, plus a proportional tax on any non-dissenter.
     

    Worked example: since it's 20 years later, we ought to feel comfortable taking the entire property of Steve Viner (the fuckwit who claimed in 2000 that 'snow would be a thing of the past'), on the basis that he was talking out of his arse. Anyone who retransmitted his bullshit (except to mock it), should also pony up.

    .

    Watch how many of these fucking charlatans decide to quit the "Crying Wolf" industry to 'pursue other interests' the moment they have actual skin in the game.

    This is a polyvalent policy: it can also be applied to religious leaders and politicians who make bullshit claims; expropriate them and their supporters, and compensate those who were forced to participate against their will.

    (NB: If you support a different bullshitter in the same space, you're not a "dissenter": you get to compensate dissenters too. D-politicians get expropriated when R-politicians' policies fail to produce results, and vice versa.)

  117. @Almost Missouri
    Corrupt junkie stripper impregnator = "very well".

    OK.

    I mis understood you. I thought you meant financially career wise. You meant morally.
    Financially he’s done very well.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Yes. Not to sneeze at financial success, but Hunter's financial success came through his corrupt father's efforts rather than his own.

    If Mikaela Spielberg makes a bundle, OTOH, it will be more from her own efforts, but I think the nethers of a chubby mulatta would not normally attract much attention absent her last name.
  118. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    It's very enlightening to learn that Greta has OCD, comes from a stage family, and that her mother is a European celebrity.

    So Greta becomes obsessive about the environment propaganda she is fed at school. Then she and her stage mother naturally conclude that the best therapy is to use her obsession to seek attention. The mother's celebrity and connections then make the whole Greta-Mania process happen.

    I will say the mother's memoir seems very well-written. But I also can't help wondering if it's partly her own attempt to exploit Greta-mania by pulling the spotlight back on herself.

    I suspect some of it is Mommy saying, “Oh my God! We can’t have a child who isn’t a celebrity! That means the family will slide back down the social ladder, and we can’t have that! The Horror!”

    Most children of celebrities do slide back down the social ladder, though they don’t always hit bottom.

  119. @The Alarmist
    In a strange coincidence, my European wife commented that it was interesting that she and her three best European female friends had all married non-European men, to which I could only ask, "Is there really still anything that can be called a European man?"

    Putin

    • Replies: @36 ulster
    Spot on!
  120. @Cloudbuster
    Greta is the Whitest person in the world.

    She needs to check her privilege.

    She needs to be put in check.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    She needs to be put in check.

     

    Don't worry. She's subject to the draft as of next January 3rd.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Sweden

    https://www.thelocal.se/tag/conscription

    Sweden hands out first jail terms for draft evasion since return of conscription

    No mention of how many were women. Kan några svenskar här svara på det?

  121. She would be NOTHING without the powers behind her.

    When someone pelts you with beans, don’t look at the beans. Look at the person.

    • Replies: @One of Several..anons
    ABSOLUTELY AGREE Anon 425...

    Once the little ranting narcissist was fated by at the flakes at Glastonbury for Gangsters this was a dead cert. Notice how none of them suggested wearing splendid clothing made from natural animal fibres...think mohair and merino, and turning down those suffocating hot room warmers.
  122. @Anon

    LOL. I’ve been half-jokingly suggesting to my second wife that we sell the condo and buy a catamaran and live at Waikiki beach.
     
    Hawaii turns out not to be the most "cruiser"-friendly location. I recommend the YouTube videos set in Hawaii on Sam Holmes's channel. He's a 30ish guy who quit a job as a Disney "imagineer" (industrial designer by training) to sail to Hawaii from Los Angeles on old 23-foot monohull and then sailed around the islands for a few months. It's a great location, but with sparse cruising support, raging currents, and racist natives who show up on kayaks and threaten to kill you. Holmes ultimately sold his boat, did a lucrative consulting gig in Japan for Disney, then relocated to the East coast on a new 26-foot boat, planning for a circumnavigation.

    Native Hawaiians seem like total assholes

    • Replies: @Ragno
    Indeed; next to California itself, Hawaii would be ideal for neutron bomb tests (the people die, but the glorious scenery remains untouched).
  123. @allahu akbar
    Broken people, who think they can never fix themselves, focus on fixing other things.

    These broken people tend to focus on huge problems, or problems they view to be huge, since, being hard to ignore, they make great distractions from the perceived unsolvable personal failings that haunt their existence.

    That's why a feel genuine sadness for people like Greta and David Hogg. There is so much more they could do with their lives.

    I know a couple of people like that. When they’re not raging against capitalism, they’re drinking themselves to death. Spot on observation.

  124. @Guy De Champlagne
    Greta and her family look like they're in pretty good shape. It's much more the people who whon't shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry "assault weapons" to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese.

    That strawman is so bad the crows are buttering their corn on the cob atop its mishapen head.

  125. @Guy De Champlagne
    Lies like how the great pacific garbage patch is actually only 1.6 million square km while mexico is actually 1.9 million? Or lies like how its not literally an island and is only an obvious metaphor?

    There is no visible blob of plastic or garbage in the middle of the Pacific. It’s not an obvious metaphor to the kids and in every article I’ve seen regarding this, deliberate misinformation has been encouraged by accompanying the story with close-up shots of polluted urban waterways in India or Brazil, or garbage-filled coastal waters in the wake of a major tsunami. I have no doubt the kids’ lessons do the same.

    I also doubt Greta was informed by her teacher that the invisible microplastics in the Pacific gyre (micropastics that are only extremely speculatively harmful) largely come from Asia, or she wouldn’t spend all her time haranguing Westerners, would she?

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    It's an obvious metaphor in the sense that noone thinks you can stand on it like you can an island or that it is completely contiguous like an island is. But reading up on it, you're right that people are being misled as to how noticeable and substantial it is.

    Greta Thurnberg doesn't talk much about this issue at all since her thing is greenhouse gases, and not ocean waste. Those are two different things, something that a lot of people don't seem to be able to understand.

    And yes environmentalism is dominated by leftists and has all sorts of left wing assumptions and biases. That's why right wingers should become more involved but they use that fact to justify doing the opposite and making the problem worse.

  126. @AnotherDad

    One blogger I read frequently is now practicing medicine without a license while iSteve attempts psychiatry without a license. I’ve reached a conclusion:

    It’s midlife crisis week!
     
    "psychiatry without a license" is pretty much the 2nd oldest recreational activity of mankind. (I.e. b.s.ing about how screwed up other people are.)

    “psychiatry without a license” is pretty much the 2nd oldest recreational activity of mankind. (I.e. b.s.ing about how screwed up other people are.)

    In any event, the psychiatrists with licenses know essentially nothing about why humans act and feel as they do. Psychiatry is mostly about making up labels in order to trigger insurance coverage.

    Treatment mainly consists of trying different uppers, downers, and/or SSRI’S until the patient claims she feels better. It’s just trial and error without any real understanding of causation.

    In my humble and cynical opinion, psychiatry in its current state is a far cry from an objective science.

  127. @AnotherDad

    If Greta grew up in a country where she could see that the people who ran things valued white children like her, worked to protect their interests and invested resources into their success, she would feel a lot better about her life.
     
    Well said AA.

    And i'd add
    -- where the children where instilled with pride in their nation, culture, race and civilization
    -- where the boys were encouraged toward the physical and mental strength to be ready fight to preserve their nation as well as productively provide for their future families
    -- where the girls were encouraged toward making themselves ready to be and understanding they'll find fulfillment in being loving, conscientious wives and mothers.

    If that was the case, these "gender dysphoria" girls would almost all have crushes--often returned--on some boy, and even nerdy Greta would probably find some nerdy boy who thought she was neat and wanted to hang out with her.

    Male and female humans naturally enjoy each other quite a bit. It takes minoritarianism to ruin that and turn it into this mentally ill, socio-sexual dystopia.

    Where is this White Wakanda ?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Where is this White Wakanda ?

     

    On the shores of Lake Menomin.


    https://pp.walk.sc/tile/e/0/748x600/loc/lat=44.8975353/lng=-91.9174434.png

  128. @Guy De Champlagne
    Lies like how the great pacific garbage patch is actually only 1.6 million square km while mexico is actually 1.9 million? Or lies like how its not literally an island and is only an obvious metaphor?

    What are the coordinates of this “garbage patch” floating on the Pacific? I want to look it up on Google maps.

  129. @Svigor
    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/404/261/a88.png

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0zZk0ewQT4I/W35XDHnfG3I/AAAAAAAKh10/Vy3lZQHD6EUN_RzwABlCuT5-LDO7iM_TQCLcBGAs/s640/1534973467927.jpg

    Strangely, Hogg actually makes a pretty good kathoey.

  130. “One theory of mental illness is that it’s a zero sum game: the more you offload your mental illness onto other people, the better you feel personally.”

    “Mental illness” or moral illness?

  131. @Guy De Champlagne
    That reducing carbon emissions is impossible is known to everyone, according to what the Wall St. Journal’s factual Holman Jenkins recently wrote.

    The technology exists to sequester carbon underground at the point of generation and have it be absorbed permanently into geologic formations over a course of decades. You do that with a mix of fossil and biofuels, using the latter to offset unsequestered fossiel fuel emissions from other sources like cars and furnaces. No crackpot, untested geoengineering with unpredictable and unequal consequences necessary. You do have to accept reduction in consumption and decide what to do with all the people that legitimately can't afford carbon free energy (i.e people living so close to subsistence that more expensive energy will push them over the edge).

    >You do have to accept reduction in consumption and decide what to do with all the people that legitimately can’t afford carbon free energy<

    You communists really enjoy killing millions of people at a time.

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    You communists really enjoy killing millions of people at a time.

    It's more like billions although I don't advocate letting them die.
  132. Off topic, but seriously Steve, it has been almost 24 hours and you’ve not commented on the Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder fight? What topic could be more iStevish?

    John Hinderaker has a good post on the fight but he must not be an iSteve reader as he doesn’t seem to know the difference between an Irish Traveller and a Gypsy.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/one-of-the-great-performances-in-heavyweight-history.php

  133. @BB753
    How dare you! Lol! So basically, she's the Western equivalent of child idiot saints of Hinduism? Including exploitation by the family?

    stop bullying a child.

    • Replies: @BB753
    She's 17 years old. No longer a child.
  134. @Guy De Champlagne
    Yes Greta Thurnberg is a ridiculous figure in lots of ways (although a quite enthralling and enchanting one as well) but the people arguing for the reality of AGW and taking actions to reverse it have lots of people on their side, including a solid consensus of scientists. So who really are the ridiculous ones?

    AGW has a consensus of an extremely large number of soft scientists.

  135. @Almost Missouri
    I've had the privilege of watching a coupla dozen kids among my extended family, their friends and classmates grow up. The kids went into two broad categories:

    1) The kids who didn't care about their lefty parents' and schools' ideals, or who did care but realized that what their elders were peddling was just a bunch of horsesh*t. Today these grown kids are basically healthy and productive.

    2) The kids who naively took their lefty parents' and schools' word on right and wrong, true and false, good and bad. Today these grown kids are gender dysphorics, climate activists, bulimics, slut walkers, anorexics, tattooed, vegan, pierced, "white allies", pharma—legal and otherwise—junkies, abortion vets, gluten intolerant, antifa, STDed, and pro-genocide. And yes, Greta is their white avatar.

    Liberalism might be the single largest child abuse program ever.

    Perhaps mom is just raising her up to join the family business. Celebrity. These people might be most easily classified as Swedish Kardashians. If they don’t have their own reality television show right now then just wait.

  136. @Anon

    LOL. I’ve been half-jokingly suggesting to my second wife that we sell the condo and buy a catamaran and live at Waikiki beach.
     
    Hawaii turns out not to be the most "cruiser"-friendly location. I recommend the YouTube videos set in Hawaii on Sam Holmes's channel. He's a 30ish guy who quit a job as a Disney "imagineer" (industrial designer by training) to sail to Hawaii from Los Angeles on old 23-foot monohull and then sailed around the islands for a few months. It's a great location, but with sparse cruising support, raging currents, and racist natives who show up on kayaks and threaten to kill you. Holmes ultimately sold his boat, did a lucrative consulting gig in Japan for Disney, then relocated to the East coast on a new 26-foot boat, planning for a circumnavigation.

    and racist natives who show up on kayaks and threaten to kill you

    We’ve known that’s on the cards for sailors visiting Hawaii for 240 years…

  137. @anon
    Assume a ginormous floating wad of plastic exists in the mid Pacific of whatever size.

    What's the source? Some river or other, perhaps? Can you name the rivers in question?

    Then can you explain why that blob of plastic must be the fault of wypipo?

    Then can you explain why that blob of plastic must be the fault of wypipo?

    It consists primarily of used tubes of Darkie toothpaste.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    Nah, the tubes are metal. Only the caps are plastic.
    , @Jack D
    Not anymore. "Darkie" is now "Darlie" and the minstrel man is racially ambiguous:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSoM7KFXcAAVp6t?format=jpg&name=small

    However, in Chinese the name of the product is still 黑人 (hei ren) = Black Man Toothpaste. I guess not many black people can read Chinese so they can get away with this.
  138. Another question is whether Greta is directly descended from 1903 Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius, inventor of the Greenhouse Theory, or merely related to him.

    Whose 161st birthday came earlier this week. Maybe Greta can campaign to make it a holiday in Sweden, the way Stevie Wonder did for MLK here.

  139. @The Wild Geese Howard
    If it's so bad out there where are the video clips of corpse pyramids being set on fire? Or zombie hordes overrunning a couple mechanized battalions?

    corpse pyramids being set on fire

    This has instantly become my “when to panic” indicator of choice!

  140. @Svigor
    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/404/261/a88.png

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0zZk0ewQT4I/W35XDHnfG3I/AAAAAAAKh10/Vy3lZQHD6EUN_RzwABlCuT5-LDO7iM_TQCLcBGAs/s640/1534973467927.jpg

    This further supports my point. Hogg appears to be a cognitively healthy and physically able (he isn’t wheelchair bound or disfigured from the shooting.) Thus he’s fair game. If he was a genuine tranny, he (or she) would be able to use hate crime/civil rights legislation.

    But grilling Greta is difficult on account of her being a funny looking autistic kid. Most people find it challenging to “punch down” against their social lessers (especially if they’re waaay down.) Thus people get walked all over by them. Kinda brings to mind Nietzsche‘s notion that “The strong must be protected from the weak” kinda thing. Greta’s “dangerous” precisely because it’s shameful to make fun of such people. That the Oprah fans will tear you to pieces for being an asshole.

  141. Miles Mathis has already done the internet research on Greta’s ancestors. Hint, they are non-Nordic. More likely to be Phoenicians.

    http://mileswmathis.com/greta.pdf

    She is just another spook project. Child of the entitled elites out schlepping a global con job. Child abuse. Her mother, the porn opera star, comes off as a real bitch in that letter.

    Same deal with Karl Marx, son of wealth, writing the Communist Manifesto and encouraging the Proles to attack the Bourgeois, leaving the Aristocracy off the menu of targets.

    Ever wonder why Communism doesn’t work? Why Federal Reserve monetary policies never work? Those things do work, just not in any way that would benefit The People.

  142. @Sean
    Anorexia delays menarche. Body fat triggers puberty in girls and in females puberty halts growth. So if anything a fat little girl will be shorter than her potential.

    Given her ability to make speeches in fluent English before huge audience, the idea that she has Asperger's is rather silly. Greta is a rhetorician and influencer like Trump. I don't think her environmentalism is a bad thing at all, but she still has a lot to learn about the world, especially the fact that the lion's share of the pollution is being by China.

    Greta is an actress, just like her mum, and her famous theatrical ancestors.
    Some child actors make movies and shows.
    Greta should have received an Oscar for her performance.

  143. @Cloudbuster
    In school one day, Greta’s class watches a film about how much rubbish there is in the oceans. An island of plastic, larger than Mexico, is floating around in the South Pacific. Greta cries throughout the film.

    Teachers should be fired, if not jailed, for misinforming kids like this.

    Fired, of course, but horse-whipping must be included.

  144. @Sean
    They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5'4'' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    https://www.3quarksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2901-288x360.jpg

    I'd say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad's mom was very short.

    AOC is almost definitely in heels. That said, Greta looks much shorter than 5’4… which coincidentally feels short for a Swede, but is actually much taller than average for, say, an indian or Chinese woman. Kim Kardashian is 5’2. Lady Gaga is 5’1. Ariana Grande is 5 or 4’11.

    So, on the short side, but calling her stunted is a stretch. But it does feel nice to attack the people we don’t like on their looks, height, mental conditions or intellect, doesn’t it?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    That confirms what I've always thought: most American female erotic icons (more or less, won't go into details) are, basically - midgets.
  145. @Alden
    I mis understood you. I thought you meant financially career wise. You meant morally.
    Financially he’s done very well.

    Yes. Not to sneeze at financial success, but Hunter’s financial success came through his corrupt father’s efforts rather than his own.

    If Mikaela Spielberg makes a bundle, OTOH, it will be more from her own efforts, but I think the nethers of a chubby mulatta would not normally attract much attention absent her last name.

    • Replies: @Alden
    That’s true Hunter’s success comes from being sin of a long term senator and VP. What’s her name Spielberg is very lucky her parents are so old. Dad has at most about 15 years. So Ms Spielberg will inherit before she’s 40.

    I’ve always wondered why regular actors are called actors but porn actors are called stars.

    Adopting a child really is a gamble isn’t it?
  146. I guess it could be worse. You geezers could be panicked about corona virus rather than complaining about GT and her global warming panic. Clearly though so many of us will die from the CV epidemic that climate change will be reversed. Really. Why worry?

  147. A cleaner translation:

    When she was about 11, her school results showed us that our little St Gretchen was, if not simply stupid, at least mildly retarded.

    Feedback from parents for good educational outcomes is a key mechanism by which children obtain approval: it was clear to us that if we were honest, this source of positive feedback was closed to our stupid, underperforming daughter.

    It is often said that trying to convince retarded children sets them up for disappointment – and that certainly happened to us.

    St Gretchen formed the expectation that she should be obtaining a lot of approval outside the family (where approval is unconditional), however the extrafamiliar bar was too high – neither kids nor their parents are fond of other kids who are stupid, retarded, entitled and emotionally fragile.

    That’s when the tantrums started – we had a stupid lazy, retarded kid who felt like she wasn’t getting her ‘props’. You’ll see stupid children throwing tantrums in every food court of every mall in the world, as their tattooed pramface mothers gaze at their cellphones.

    Accordingly, we had to reduce and reduce the task-complexity that St Gretchen was required to accomplish before she received hyperbolic gushing approval: whereas a normal kid would need to, say, be selected for a national-level Math Olympiad before her parents turned cartwheels, for our poor stupid little retard we had to turn cartwheels if she wiped her own arse.

    Then – Baruch Hashem! – we discovered that there is an international community of stupid retards, many of whom are even stupider and more retarded than our poor little idiot.

    There are also people so unscrupulous that they will exploit a poor little retard like our St Gretchen – but frankly who gives a fuck? We don’t have to do cartwheels when she takes a shit, and she’s a brand now.

    A stupid, lazy, retarded brand – literally the apotheosis of the ‘art’ of marketing.

  148. @Guy De Champlagne
    Lies like how the great pacific garbage patch is actually only 1.6 million square km while mexico is actually 1.9 million? Or lies like how its not literally an island and is only an obvious metaphor?

    Name one climate-related measure that is trending in a worrisome direction.

  149. @Achmed E. Newman
    Couldn't find the [Retard] switch, so I'll bite: I didn't see a lot of obese people at the gun rally in Richmond, Virginia last month, maybe 1 in 50 or so. Most Americans do have a little extra heft, but then a little bit of manual labor now and then would be good in that case, would it not?

    I'm no doctor, but Greta and her family seem in good physical shape. That wasn't the point. Working with your hands for a spell is good for the brain. Philosophizing for long periods of time can be bad for one's mental state. Listen to this song by a couple of Athens musicians from way back, and see if you can understand ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTI2GGNFR_U

    Gotta get out of bed, get a hammer and a nail,
    learn how to use my hands,
    not just my head
    I think myself into jail.
    Now I know a refuge never grows
    from a chin in a hand in a thoughtful pose.
    Gotta tend the earth if you want a rose.

    Phenomenal song. They had some good ones. Very fun.

  150. @Guy De Champlagne
    That reducing carbon emissions is impossible is known to everyone, according to what the Wall St. Journal’s factual Holman Jenkins recently wrote.

    The technology exists to sequester carbon underground at the point of generation and have it be absorbed permanently into geologic formations over a course of decades. You do that with a mix of fossil and biofuels, using the latter to offset unsequestered fossiel fuel emissions from other sources like cars and furnaces. No crackpot, untested geoengineering with unpredictable and unequal consequences necessary. You do have to accept reduction in consumption and decide what to do with all the people that legitimately can't afford carbon free energy (i.e people living so close to subsistence that more expensive energy will push them over the edge).

    You do have to accept reduction in consumption

    No we don’t. If some crackpots want to engage in millenarian Malthusian fantasies, let them fund the fucking thing by foregoing their own consumption.

    The main characteristic of people who are prepared to force their ideas on entire societies, is not ‘concern for the public good’: it’s just conceit, hubris, narcissism, and megalomania.

    I make an immodest proposal which would make these fuckwits go away in less than a month.

    Make a very careful tally of everyone who dissents to the costs imposed by climate policy.

    After each 10 year period, compensate these people 100% (plus COLA plus interest) of the per-capita tax taken from them, if actual increases in temperature are below the upper bound of a ‘no change’ forecast envelope.

    Fund the compensation by taking 100% of the property of anyone who made a (failed) ‘catastrophe’ forecast, plus a proportional tax on any non-dissenter.

    Worked example: since it’s 20 years later, we ought to feel comfortable taking the entire property of Steve Viner (the fuckwit who claimed in 2000 that ‘snow would be a thing of the past‘), on the basis that he was talking out of his arse. Anyone who retransmitted his bullshit (except to mock it), should also pony up.

    .

    Watch how many of these fucking charlatans decide to quit the “Crying Wolf” industry to ‘pursue other interests‘ the moment they have actual skin in the game.

    This is a polyvalent policy: it can also be applied to religious leaders and politicians who make bullshit claims; expropriate them and their supporters, and compensate those who were forced to participate against their will.

    (NB: If you support a different bullshitter in the same space, you’re not a “dissenter”: you get to compensate dissenters too. D-politicians get expropriated when R-politicians’ policies fail to produce results, and vice versa.)

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
  151. @Sean
    They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5'4'' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    https://www.3quarksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2901-288x360.jpg

    I'd say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad's mom was very short.

    She’s adopted a vegan diet. This is why she’s missed the puberty bus.

    • Agree: Liza
  152. @Sean
    They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5'4'' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    https://www.3quarksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2901-288x360.jpg

    I'd say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad's mom was very short.

    Greta has an air of the carny about her, some kind of untermensch gypsy show-biz person not to be trusted.

    “Actors are just carnies with good teeth.” — Craig Ferguson

    • Agree: Change that Matters
  153. @Guy De Champlagne
    Yes Greta Thurnberg is a ridiculous figure in lots of ways (although a quite enthralling and enchanting one as well) but the people arguing for the reality of AGW and taking actions to reverse it have lots of people on their side, including a solid consensus of scientists. So who really are the ridiculous ones?

    ‘Consensus’ is not the collective noun for scientists.

    Anyone who thinks that a majority view enforced by some doctrinaire ‘opinion leaders’ is ipso facto evidence that dissenters are wrong, has no familiarity with how wrong consensus has been at all points in the history of science.

    And that’s for genuine, real science.

    A good example: as late as 1920, the dominant paradigm in cosmology was that our home galaxy constituted the entire universe. Skeptics insisted this was unlikely, but by 1920 they did not by any means have the upper hand.

    The ‘Shapley-Curtis Debate’ was published in 1920 – and Shapley had empirical support from van Maanen, whose measurements were inconsistent with Curtis’ claims.

    Hubble showed (almost a decade later) that van Maanen was either incompetent or a fraud. We now know with certainty that the ‘dissenter’ (Curtis) was correct: what had previously been called ‘spiral nebulae’ were, in fact, other galaxies like our own.

    .

    It can be that bad in proper, genuine science, so it should be expected to be much worse in climate ‘science’, which has more in common with religion than it does with actual science: it is a correct-line orthodoxy with a set of central tenets that admit of no dissent and whose forecasts of Armageddon keep failing to materialise.

    Climate ‘science’ bears the same relationship to actual science, as ‘Scien’tology or the Church of Jesus Christ, Scientist. How many people undertake study of climate ‘science’ because they are interested in the truth of the matter, regardless of whether or not it completely upends the current dominant narrative?

    Given the calibre of students at undergraduate level in that ‘space’, the right guess is zero. These people are like seminarians: they are already True Believers.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I can remember the 1970s and the books about The Coming Ice Age. It’s all a crock. 1,200 years ago we were in a global warming period. 700 years ago a little ice age began that lasted till around 1850.
    , @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    True believer = Guy De Champlagne
    , @Ted Bell
    Science is nothing more than a process:

    Observe phenomena.
    Formulate hypothesis to explain said phenomena.
    Develop criteria by which said hypothesis can be falsified.
    Make good faith effort to falsify, and invite everyone else to do the same.
    The hypothesis stands until falsified, though it's usefulness is forever limited by the scope of it's predictive abilities.

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn't claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn't science. At best, it's philosophy. I'm not even saying it's wrong. I'm saying that something that can't be disproven, doesn't qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight. Tell me exactly which conditions would definitively disprove the AGW concept. I'm perfectly willing to accept when I'm wrong. But I've been asking this question for 20+ years, and I've never been given a rational answer. I'm not asking for evidence for AGW. Science isn't about proving anything. It's about the good faith effort to disprove everything. The simplest definition of science is systematized skepticism. What I'm asking for is a specific set of circumstances that would disprove the theory. Anyone?
  154. @Hippopotamusdrome
    https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/greta-thunberg-pointing-at-trump-how-dare-you-india-china-shes-not-talking-to-us-is-she-nah-were-good.jpg

    The argument usually given is per capita pollution, and they do have a point. India and China may pollute more overall but this is because of their large populations, most people there still live a very modest lifestyle.

    The China pollution is also raised by the fact that they make goods for Western consumers, and if all factories making goods for Westwrners were moved back to the West, Chinese pollution levels would plummet. In fact this is one of the rationales behind moving factories to China and other Third World countries (China is no longer Third World, but it was when factories were moved there), plentiful supply of cheap labour and lax environmental protection laws. It costs way less money to just dump the waste than it does to dispose of it in a responsible manner. The former is not possible on Western nations because of strict laws.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    If you had to compare and contrast the similarities between China and India, what would you say?

    How would you compare the long term trajectory of India to China?

    These would seem like important questions. I'd be curious to get a Chinese perspective on this.
    , @J.Ross
    Interesting choice of reaction. Tell me, which planets are these nations on? Are there ever any alignments wherein their various atmospheres ever connect?
  155. Since my comment was not published after 48h, I send it again.

    This seems just a Nordic version of “tikkun olam”.

    Didn’t Steve observe that some Jewish young people with family troubles will lash out at their parents through joining feminism / marxism / deconstructionism / freudianism / etc. So here it’s the same, but directed to more Nordic-liberal things such as the environment / Nature.

    “How dare you” is basica Greta’s anger at her mother for her prioritizing her art instead of her upbringing. Makes one think if some type of women really would be better not having children. Perhaps maternity is really not meant for all.

    A similar case by the way, was explored by Bergman (Ingmar) in Autumn Sonata (with the other famous Bergman, Ingrid, in the main role):

  156. @Almost Missouri
    Yes. Not to sneeze at financial success, but Hunter's financial success came through his corrupt father's efforts rather than his own.

    If Mikaela Spielberg makes a bundle, OTOH, it will be more from her own efforts, but I think the nethers of a chubby mulatta would not normally attract much attention absent her last name.

    That’s true Hunter’s success comes from being sin of a long term senator and VP. What’s her name Spielberg is very lucky her parents are so old. Dad has at most about 15 years. So Ms Spielberg will inherit before she’s 40.

    I’ve always wondered why regular actors are called actors but porn actors are called stars.

    Adopting a child really is a gamble isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    It is a gamble, but a less costly one for the wealthy. By which I mean that

    1) the wealthy can afford to get more thoroughly screened private-placement adoptions, while the non-wealthy get whatever the state adoption agency has in inventory (typically the kids no one else wants), and

    2) just because they are adopting a POC kid to virtue-signal with doesn't mean they actually have to spend much time with their signalling props. Once the kid is out of the cute years, they typically pack them off to some privileged boarding school, which however expensive is a trivial cost to multimillionaires. As far as I can tell, this was the Spielberg's kid's history.
  157. @Kratoklastes
    'Consensus' is not the collective noun for scientists.

    Anyone who thinks that a majority view enforced by some doctrinaire 'opinion leaders' is ipso facto evidence that dissenters are wrong, has no familiarity with how wrong consensus has been at all points in the history of science.

    And that's for genuine, real science.

    A good example: as late as 1920, the dominant paradigm in cosmology was that our home galaxy constituted the entire universe. Skeptics insisted this was unlikely, but by 1920 they did not by any means have the upper hand.

    The 'Shapley-Curtis Debate' was published in 1920 - and Shapley had empirical support from van Maanen, whose measurements were inconsistent with Curtis' claims.

    Hubble showed (almost a decade later) that van Maanen was either incompetent or a fraud. We now know with certainty that the 'dissenter' (Curtis) was correct: what had previously been called 'spiral nebulae' were, in fact, other galaxies like our own.

    .

    It can be that bad in proper, genuine science, so it should be expected to be much worse in climate 'science', which has more in common with religion than it does with actual science: it is a correct-line orthodoxy with a set of central tenets that admit of no dissent and whose forecasts of Armageddon keep failing to materialise.

    Climate 'science' bears the same relationship to actual science, as 'Scien'tology or the Church of Jesus Christ, Scientist. How many people undertake study of climate 'science' because they are interested in the truth of the matter, regardless of whether or not it completely upends the current dominant narrative?

    Given the calibre of students at undergraduate level in that 'space', the right guess is zero. These people are like seminarians: they are already True Believers.

    I can remember the 1970s and the books about The Coming Ice Age. It’s all a crock. 1,200 years ago we were in a global warming period. 700 years ago a little ice age began that lasted till around 1850.

  158. @Fredrik
    No no,

    how dare you and so on...

    I don't know about her dad but her mom is clearly mentally ill herself and if these things are genetic then it could explain a few things since both daughters have issues.

    Mom used to be a fanatical open borders campaigner around the time Greta was ill. At the same time she's having some sort of artistic career where she's away from home quite a lot.

    Maybe Greta needed her mom? I don't know, maybe it's that easy?

    Many kids would be much better off without their Moms.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    While a Mother is of course important, the Dad is what is essential for a boy. And also for a girl, otherwise they grow up with "Daddy issues" and become strippers.
    I am not sure how Greta gets along with Dad, but at least he was present.

    The real problem will be those boys now who were adopted by lesbians and grow up with "two Moms" and no Dad. I can't think of a worse thing for a boy. Also some lesbian couples are known to have abused or even killed their boys, or to tried to turn him into a newt. I mean, a girl.
  159. I don’t buy it: what young daughter would fail to be impressed that their workaholic ontheroad parents are chatting with Barenboim?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I shook conductor Daniel Barenboim's hand once: my reaction was: Wow, this guy's the classiest person I've ever met.
  160. @Guy De Champlagne
    Lies like how the great pacific garbage patch is actually only 1.6 million square km while mexico is actually 1.9 million? Or lies like how its not literally an island and is only an obvious metaphor?

    It is absolutely not an “obvious metaphor.” It was never called a metaphor until it was called out, and NPR had at least one story from a guy who claimed to have encountered “it” while sailing. And anyway the context here is a Swedish teacher instructing children.

  161. @Kratoklastes
    'Consensus' is not the collective noun for scientists.

    Anyone who thinks that a majority view enforced by some doctrinaire 'opinion leaders' is ipso facto evidence that dissenters are wrong, has no familiarity with how wrong consensus has been at all points in the history of science.

    And that's for genuine, real science.

    A good example: as late as 1920, the dominant paradigm in cosmology was that our home galaxy constituted the entire universe. Skeptics insisted this was unlikely, but by 1920 they did not by any means have the upper hand.

    The 'Shapley-Curtis Debate' was published in 1920 - and Shapley had empirical support from van Maanen, whose measurements were inconsistent with Curtis' claims.

    Hubble showed (almost a decade later) that van Maanen was either incompetent or a fraud. We now know with certainty that the 'dissenter' (Curtis) was correct: what had previously been called 'spiral nebulae' were, in fact, other galaxies like our own.

    .

    It can be that bad in proper, genuine science, so it should be expected to be much worse in climate 'science', which has more in common with religion than it does with actual science: it is a correct-line orthodoxy with a set of central tenets that admit of no dissent and whose forecasts of Armageddon keep failing to materialise.

    Climate 'science' bears the same relationship to actual science, as 'Scien'tology or the Church of Jesus Christ, Scientist. How many people undertake study of climate 'science' because they are interested in the truth of the matter, regardless of whether or not it completely upends the current dominant narrative?

    Given the calibre of students at undergraduate level in that 'space', the right guess is zero. These people are like seminarians: they are already True Believers.

    True believer = Guy De Champlagne

  162. @donut
    Where is this White Wakanda ?

    Where is this White Wakanda ?

    On the shores of Lake Menomin.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: bomag
  163. Until someone shows me a viable course of action that costs less than the “climate damage” it stands to save us, I’m not gonna worry about global warming.

    The planet’s set to warm another 1.5C by 2100. We’ve warmed about 1C so far, with half of it occurring before anyone knew what global warming was.

    If thermometers didn’t exist, no one would notice.

  164. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    I don’t know squat about Golf, but I did run into this

    Louisville golfer and hall-of-famer Don Fightmaster dies at 87

    Dustin Vogt
    1 day ago

    LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WAVE) – Don Fightmaster, famous one-armed championship golfer from Louisville, has died at 87 on Thursday after a long battle with Alzheimer’s.

    Louisville Don Fightmaster, famous one-armed championship golfer from Louisville, has died at 87 on Thursday after a long battle with Alzheimer’s.

    Fightmaster was born in Louisville on June 13, 1932 and was a graduate from Male High School. He earned a Bachelors Degree at the University of Louisville, with a Masters degree from Indiana
    He served in the US Air Force in the 1950s, where he lost his left arm in a jeep accident.

    Fightmaster continued golfing and won many awards and championships, including winning the International One-Armed Golf Tournament twice, the National One-Armed Golf Tournament seven times, and the International Senior One-Arm Tournament in Scotland.

    In Louisville, Fightmaster founded the Don Fightmaster Foundation for Exceptional Children in 1979, benefiting local children with special needs. The Don Fightmaster Golf Outing has been a part of the Kentucky Derby Festival for more than 10 years.

    From there, Fightmaster went on to become one of the founders of the North American One-Arm Golfer Association in 2008, where the Fightmaster Cup was created.

    Fightmaster was inducted into the Kentucky Golf Hall of Fame in 1998. He was also inducted into the Amateur Softball Association Hall of Fame, Male High School Hall of Fame, and the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame.

    Funeral arrangements have been made for Fightmaster. Visitation will be Monday, February 23 from 3:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. at Ratterman Brothers Funeral Home on Shelbyville Road. Fightmaster will be buried at Cave Hill Cemetery on Tuesday.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/louisville-golfer-and-hall-of-famer-don-fightmaster-dies-at-87/ar-BB10hgT6

    1) What a moniker! I’d never heard of the guy or anyone else named “Fightmaster”. Sounds like something out of a Judge Dredd comic.

    2) Was he a one armed pro golfer really? Again, it had escaped my notice that there was such a thing.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    My copy of Basil Cottle's surname dictionary shows no British Isles surnames starting with Fig- except Figg.

    I wonder if it's Indian. I've seen the names Mankiller and Killsplenty (the later doing time for murder), and even met a pair of Whitekillers. Mrs Whitekiller was white herself, but her daughter was clearly half-breed.

    Was he a one armed pro golfer really? Again, it had escaped my notice that there was such a thing.
     
    Pete Gray made it to the majors in 1945. Jim Abbott pitched in the majors for ten years, including a no-hitter, but he was missing only a hand.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UG6bxkq5L4





    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=051w-ek_sZA
    , @Joe Stalin
    "1) What a moniker! I’d never heard of the guy or anyone else named “Fightmaster”. "

    https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/tcwxzbhog8ee0v2wsul1.jpg

    Donald Rumsfeld's official title?

    Rumsfeld Hosts No-Holds-Barred Martial Arts Tournament At Remote Island Fortress

    https://politics.theonion.com/rumsfeld-hosts-no-holds-barred-martial-arts-tournament-1819567287
     
  165. Trump is monitoring the situation, and he will continue monitoring the situation until everyone who ever criticized or embarrassed the deep state is dead, including him. Maybe he will lose after all because he allows all his supporters and potential allies to be killed, imprisoned, redflagged, or swatted. Oh but Michael Milliken’s free, that’s good.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8034145/DHS-whistleblower-Philip-Haney-shot-dead-self-inflicted-gunshot-wound.html

    A formal cause of death, motive or details surrounding Haney’s death have not been released by authorities
    Haney criticized the Department of Homeland Security under the Obama administration for its handling of radical Jihadists and Islamic extremists
    He claimed that DHS ordered him to delete hundreds of files pertaining to people with ties to Islamist terrorist groups
    Haney argue that several terrorist attacks in the U.S. could have been prevented if certain files were maintained
    He testified in front of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee in 2016

    If, after the Durham investigation concludes, there’s more nothing, Cheltingham Wainscotting becomes the only way.

  166. @Kratoklastes
    'Consensus' is not the collective noun for scientists.

    Anyone who thinks that a majority view enforced by some doctrinaire 'opinion leaders' is ipso facto evidence that dissenters are wrong, has no familiarity with how wrong consensus has been at all points in the history of science.

    And that's for genuine, real science.

    A good example: as late as 1920, the dominant paradigm in cosmology was that our home galaxy constituted the entire universe. Skeptics insisted this was unlikely, but by 1920 they did not by any means have the upper hand.

    The 'Shapley-Curtis Debate' was published in 1920 - and Shapley had empirical support from van Maanen, whose measurements were inconsistent with Curtis' claims.

    Hubble showed (almost a decade later) that van Maanen was either incompetent or a fraud. We now know with certainty that the 'dissenter' (Curtis) was correct: what had previously been called 'spiral nebulae' were, in fact, other galaxies like our own.

    .

    It can be that bad in proper, genuine science, so it should be expected to be much worse in climate 'science', which has more in common with religion than it does with actual science: it is a correct-line orthodoxy with a set of central tenets that admit of no dissent and whose forecasts of Armageddon keep failing to materialise.

    Climate 'science' bears the same relationship to actual science, as 'Scien'tology or the Church of Jesus Christ, Scientist. How many people undertake study of climate 'science' because they are interested in the truth of the matter, regardless of whether or not it completely upends the current dominant narrative?

    Given the calibre of students at undergraduate level in that 'space', the right guess is zero. These people are like seminarians: they are already True Believers.

    Science is nothing more than a process:

    Observe phenomena.
    Formulate hypothesis to explain said phenomena.
    Develop criteria by which said hypothesis can be falsified.
    Make good faith effort to falsify, and invite everyone else to do the same.
    The hypothesis stands until falsified, though it’s usefulness is forever limited by the scope of it’s predictive abilities.

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn’t claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn’t science. At best, it’s philosophy. I’m not even saying it’s wrong. I’m saying that something that can’t be disproven, doesn’t qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight. Tell me exactly which conditions would definitively disprove the AGW concept. I’m perfectly willing to accept when I’m wrong. But I’ve been asking this question for 20+ years, and I’ve never been given a rational answer. I’m not asking for evidence for AGW. Science isn’t about proving anything. It’s about the good faith effort to disprove everything. The simplest definition of science is systematized skepticism. What I’m asking for is a specific set of circumstances that would disprove the theory. Anyone?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Ted Bell asked:

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn’t claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn’t science. At best, it’s philosophy. I’m not even saying it’s wrong. I’m saying that something that can’t be disproven, doesn’t qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight.
     
    Speaking as a Ph.D. physicist, the basic physics that says that anthropogenic CO2 has some warming effect is very straightforward. If that physics were wrong... well, our basic understanding of the physical science would be wrong.

    However, the devil is in the details. The direct effect of anthropogenic CO2 is fairly modest. The real issue is the feedback effects -- some will certainly enhance the effect, some will certainly diminish it. And, it is impossible to calculate all those effects from first principles (the really big deal is the details of cloud formation and structure).

    So, any claim for numerical exactitude deserves extreme skepticism. The evidence we have so far is consistent with anthropogenic warming being negligible compared to natural processes; it is also consistent with it being a real problem.

    We just don't know. And human beings dislike uncertainty.

    A good ongoing discussion of the issues is Judith Curry's Climate Etc. blog. Judith has a very open commenting policy, so some of the comments are goofy. But she herself is a serious climate scientist who is willing to be honest about the high levels of uncertainty inherent in the subject.
    , @Dr. Jim
    Even before falsifying AGW, you must address and fail to falsify the UNDERLYING hypothesis: "The climate of the Earth is invariant".

    If the climate of the Earth is NOT invariant, then the invocation of human activity as THE cause, or as a substantial contributing cause, to PRESENT variation becomes a much heavier lift.
    , @MBlanc46
    It’s not philosophy, it’s religion.
  167. @Lot
    The Red Chinese dictatorship produces a lot of unintentional laughs.

    https://twitter.com/CarlHerberger/status/1231628241334566913

    This guy might just have a mild case of the regular flu or a head cold. But when he’s locked up with and sharing air and dining facilities and bathrooms in a hastily constructed “hospital” with actual corona-infected people....

    Hilarious.

  168. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Beijing is sending police officers to Wuhan because about 1K of Wuhan cops are sick. Since Wuhan is the size of New York, if they have similar staffing–New York has around 38K cops–that means 1 in every 38 Wuhan citizens is sick, according to the cop scale. That comes to 263,000 Wuhan infections, or at least infections strong enough to show symptons. But if those 2495 deaths reported for Hubei province are all in Wuhan, that means their death rate is around 1%.

    The death rate for non-Chinese countries at this point is 1.2%. With more data from non-Chinese countries, we’ll have more clarity.

    The main problem with this virus may not be because it’s particularly lethal–it doesn’t seem to be–rather that it’s so infectious that everyone is going to get it. It’ll find every person who’s most likely to die from it.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks for the info, #188, but that one assumption in there, that the police in China have as much a presence in the cities as NY or American cities have is the real guess in your calculation. I've been over there many times. I can't give you numbers unfortunately, but I can tell you that you don't see the presence of police for traffic duty or just donut shop duty* nearly as much as you do here. Granted, they don't have black ghettos.

    In some ways, China is less of a police state as America, though with these videos of events regarding this virus, you see some of the worst of theirs. (When they do their thing, they don't even have the pretense of having due process or any of that business.)

    .


    * ...the Chinese knowing exactly squat about baking and tasty baked goods.
  169. @J.Ross
    I don't buy it: what young daughter would fail to be impressed that their workaholic ontheroad parents are chatting with Barenboim?

    I shook conductor Daniel Barenboim’s hand once: my reaction was: Wow, this guy’s the classiest person I’ve ever met.

  170. @LondonBob
    The island of plastic floating in the Pacific is another green lie. I suggest they all sail out there to collect it all and don't come back until their boat is full.

    https://twitter.com/EcoSenseNow/status/1228804203163811842?s=20

    Disturbing the level of indoctrination.

    The great majority of the plastic comes from Asia:

    “Overall, worldwide, most of the plastic trash in the ocean comes from Asia. In fact, the top six countries for ocean garbage are China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, Sri Lanka and Thailand, according to a 2015 study in the journal Science. ”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2018/09/07/great-pacific-garbage-patch-where-did-all-trash-come/1133838002/

    The garbage patch lies between the US mainland and Hawaii on “our side” of the Pacific, so it’s more of our problem that they’ve added to.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    There is no Great Pacific Garbage Island.

    https://slate.com/technology/2016/09/the-great-pacific-garbage-patch-was-the-myth-we-needed-to-save-our-oceans.html

    I am a conservative, so I very much believe in preserving our environment, this isn't helped by inventing issues that don't exist, and by hijacking legitimate concerns to serve other purposes.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Right, it's not just Asia, but specifically China. In an article on "BigThink.com", Just 10 streams carry 95% of all river-borne plastic into the ocean, you can read that, of the top 10 rivers for supplying plastic trash to the ocean, the Yangtze alone provides more than all the others combined. The top 4 are in China.

    My Peak Stupidity post references that article along with relating an anecdote from the zoo, in which we were harangued about plastic bags the whole damn time we were trying to peacefully watch the seals and sea lions - Trash in the rivers - get off our case, zookeepers!.

    Here is a map from the Peak Stupidity, but there's a chart with numbers in the original:

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/post_1154A.jpg
  171. I think Kevin MacDonald linked to a recent study that the more left wing you are the more likely you are to have suffered mental illness issues. I certainly feel like the Brexit, Trump derangement stuff is like some mentally ill people have hijacked the media to engage in some form of primal scream. I have stopped watching most news and reading newspapers because I think it wouldn’t be healthy for me.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "I certainly feel like the Brexit, Trump derangement stuff is like some mentally ill people have hijacked the media to engage in some form of primal scream. I have stopped watching most news and reading newspapers because I think it wouldn’t be healthy for me."

    I stopped watching or listening to news when the UK Parliament seemed determined not to honour the Brexit referendum. But when Boris won in December I did go on a binge-read of the Guardian and various left blogs, partly to appreciate the "butt-hurt" but also to see if any left or Labour figures had a clue why the voters had spat in their eye.

    A fair few Labour politicians, people who actually went out looking for votes, had worked it out - an MP guy called Ian Lavery had warned that Northern seats were at risk. But on the blogs the mood was more 'sod these left-behind Northern racists - they deserve everything they get' - very much how Dem
    activists saw American rust-belt voters.
  172. The liars are now inverting reality to such an extent it’s hard to believe killing active citizens has not crossed their minds.

    This woman seriously believes the “low carbon footprint” of the ‘economically inactive” means they are actually productive. It’s not a very large step to doing away with the “economically active” because they must by this equation be a net drag on society.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA
  173. @Calvin Hobbes
    On Steve’s theme of women obsessing about themselves, here’s something from The Guardian:


    'Vagina is not a rude word': the scientist fighting to empower women, one word at a time
    Twenty years ago, Catherine Blackledge’s history of the vagina The Story of V broke boundaries. As it is reissued, she talks about anasyrma as activism and why we lie about the clitoris

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/feb/20/vagina-is-not-a-rude-word-catherine-blackledge-raising-the-skirt


    “I think there’s there’s a moment that every person born with a vagina shares, and that is when you realise that you are treated differently to people who have a penis, that you are not treated with the same level of respect,” she says. “I do think women were all wounded in some way. We feel negative about our genitalia, because it seems to be the source of why we are treated differently.”
    ...
    She gives the example of ova, which are 80,000 times bigger than sperm. “We have this idea of the sperm going on this valiant and action-packed journey to the egg. But we know now that the game is always played on her turf. She controls the action, she pulls the sperm to her and she engulfs it. The language that we use in so many things is always about male active, female passive. When that changes, I think it will be a dramatic shift. We’re stuck in the old language at the moment.”

    Yesterday, Steve adapted something Lucky Day says in “The Three Amigos”. Here’s another quote from that movie:

    Rosita: I was thinking later, you could kiss me on the veranda.
    Dusty Bottoms: Lips would be fine.

    And here’s another quote from this vagina article:

    She believes parents should just say vagina and vulva, but suggests that “if the UK wants a new non-anatomical word, my vote is for verenda. It’s an old word for the vagina and means ‘the parts that inspire awe or respect’. Grace, gravitas and a great provenance combined.”

    Calvin Hobbes quoted Catherine Blackledge:

    “I think there’s there’s a moment that every person born with a vagina shares, and that is when you realise that you are treated differently to people who have a penis, that you are not treated with the same level of respect,” she says.

    I’m old enough to remember when males were taught they must show more respect to females than is shown to males. And, then, the “sexual revolution” hit when I was an adolescent.

    I remember wondering how it would all work out from an anthropological perspective.

    I’m afraid we now know the answer.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’m old enough to remember when males were taught they must show more respect to females than is shown to males.
     
    Feminism is almost spastically contrarian. Where traditional mores proposes special treatment for women, they want equality. But where equality was demanded, or acceded to, then they want special treatment.

    Michael Levin of NYU said it was an achievement men could never have come up with-- a system of thought that was wrong about every single issue it addressed.
  174. @The Alarmist
    In a strange coincidence, my European wife commented that it was interesting that she and her three best European female friends had all married non-European men, to which I could only ask, "Is there really still anything that can be called a European man?"

    For a while I had a stunningly beautiful British girlfriend, your dictionary definition of a so-called “English rose,” easily the most beautiful girl I’ve ever been lucky enough to bed, and she used to say, in a rather impolite tone of voice, “you know, I only f!ck American men. I wouldn’t be caught dead with an Englishman.”

    And before you start all the “Dear Penthouse” jokes, it’s actually true. And, ended badly.

    • Replies: @ATate
    Just spent the day in York at the Jorvik Viking Festival. There were about a half dozen hen parties we saw throughout the day. To a one, they were all butt ugly. Just absolutely atrocious. British women wear more makeup than Hispanics, it’s caked on and makes them look hideous.

    Some of the most unattractive women in the world are here in the UK. They have no ass here.

    You got lucky.

    Then they open their mouths...ice pick to the eyeballs...it’s a throw up as to which is worse to hear talking between English bitches or Russian bitches.

    Gross, one and all.

    Count your blessings that it didn’t work out.
    , @The Alarmist

    "I only f!ck American men."

    And before you start all the “Dear Penthouse” jokes, it’s actually true. And, ended badly.
     
    Yeah, the problem with that expression in English is that it has a number of meanings, a number of which aren't pleasant.
    , @Dr. Jim
    You know what they say about English girls' knickers - "One Yank and they're off"
  175. @Anonymous
    OT

    I don't know squat about Golf, but I did run into this

    Louisville golfer and hall-of-famer Don Fightmaster dies at 87

    Dustin Vogt
    1 day ago


    LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WAVE) - Don Fightmaster, famous one-armed championship golfer from Louisville, has died at 87 on Thursday after a long battle with Alzheimer’s.

    Louisville Don Fightmaster, famous one-armed championship golfer from Louisville, has died at 87 on Thursday after a long battle with Alzheimer’s.

    Fightmaster was born in Louisville on June 13, 1932 and was a graduate from Male High School. He earned a Bachelors Degree at the University of Louisville, with a Masters degree from Indiana
    He served in the US Air Force in the 1950s, where he lost his left arm in a jeep accident.

    Fightmaster continued golfing and won many awards and championships, including winning the International One-Armed Golf Tournament twice, the National One-Armed Golf Tournament seven times, and the International Senior One-Arm Tournament in Scotland.

    In Louisville, Fightmaster founded the Don Fightmaster Foundation for Exceptional Children in 1979, benefiting local children with special needs. The Don Fightmaster Golf Outing has been a part of the Kentucky Derby Festival for more than 10 years.

    From there, Fightmaster went on to become one of the founders of the North American One-Arm Golfer Association in 2008, where the Fightmaster Cup was created.

    Fightmaster was inducted into the Kentucky Golf Hall of Fame in 1998. He was also inducted into the Amateur Softball Association Hall of Fame, Male High School Hall of Fame, and the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame.

    Funeral arrangements have been made for Fightmaster. Visitation will be Monday, February 23 from 3:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. at Ratterman Brothers Funeral Home on Shelbyville Road. Fightmaster will be buried at Cave Hill Cemetery on Tuesday.

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/louisville-golfer-and-hall-of-famer-don-fightmaster-dies-at-87/ar-BB10hgT6


    1) What a moniker! I'd never heard of the guy or anyone else named "Fightmaster". Sounds like something out of a Judge Dredd comic.

    2) Was he a one armed pro golfer really? Again, it had escaped my notice that there was such a thing.

    My copy of Basil Cottle’s surname dictionary shows no British Isles surnames starting with Fig- except Figg.

    I wonder if it’s Indian. I’ve seen the names Mankiller and Killsplenty (the later doing time for murder), and even met a pair of Whitekillers. Mrs Whitekiller was white herself, but her daughter was clearly half-breed.

    Was he a one armed pro golfer really? Again, it had escaped my notice that there was such a thing.

    Pete Gray made it to the majors in 1945. Jim Abbott pitched in the majors for ten years, including a no-hitter, but he was missing only a hand.

  176. @PhysicistDave
    Calvin Hobbes quoted Catherine Blackledge:

    “I think there’s there’s a moment that every person born with a vagina shares, and that is when you realise that you are treated differently to people who have a penis, that you are not treated with the same level of respect,” she says.
     
    I'm old enough to remember when males were taught they must show more respect to females than is shown to males. And, then, the "sexual revolution" hit when I was an adolescent.

    I remember wondering how it would all work out from an anthropological perspective.

    I'm afraid we now know the answer.

    I’m old enough to remember when males were taught they must show more respect to females than is shown to males.

    Feminism is almost spastically contrarian. Where traditional mores proposes special treatment for women, they want equality. But where equality was demanded, or acceded to, then they want special treatment.

    Michael Levin of NYU said it was an achievement men could never have come up with– a system of thought that was wrong about every single issue it addressed.

  177. @LondonBob
    The island of plastic floating in the Pacific is another green lie. I suggest they all sail out there to collect it all and don't come back until their boat is full.

    https://twitter.com/EcoSenseNow/status/1228804203163811842?s=20

    Disturbing the level of indoctrination.

    Poe’s law.

    Patrick Moore is an industry shill.

  178. @Dieter Kief

    Greta is the Whitest person in the world.
     
    Yes, she is pure. A Northern New Saint of the Godless 21st Century Europe. A virgin even.

    (For those interested in the social dynamics, such a figure can set off, see the perfectly well written entertaining and insightful novel Our Lady of the Forest by David Guterson).

    Yes, she is pure. A Northern New Saint of the Godless 21st Century Europe. A virgin even.

    Wait, I thought that being full-on promiscuously and miscegenationously perverse was the new virtue. Shouldn’t she get tatted up and pierced, undergo gender transition, and become a cam tran who has sex with multiracial lesbians and trans men and then donates the porn revenue to Greenpeace? That would be sainthood in the new globohomo faith.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    She is a virgin and says so and the deeper longing seems to be that for the Pure old Virgin. None of those sexo-matic-maniacs (wasn't that - - Macy Gray - didn't she want to run a stylish sex-club after her career?!) did achieve the same kind of unquestionable super-saint-status.

    David Guterson got this in Our Lady from the Forest - this longing of the public for something unquestionable, true, and pure above all - and that's what virgins - symbolize... Virgins and
    - - - dwarfs, at times as well, hehe - see?... Jonathan Franzen was close to this stuff in - Purity, of course.

    Should I mention Carl Gustav Jung now? Oh - Joann of Arc might be a good example.

  179. @Ted Bell
    Science is nothing more than a process:

    Observe phenomena.
    Formulate hypothesis to explain said phenomena.
    Develop criteria by which said hypothesis can be falsified.
    Make good faith effort to falsify, and invite everyone else to do the same.
    The hypothesis stands until falsified, though it's usefulness is forever limited by the scope of it's predictive abilities.

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn't claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn't science. At best, it's philosophy. I'm not even saying it's wrong. I'm saying that something that can't be disproven, doesn't qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight. Tell me exactly which conditions would definitively disprove the AGW concept. I'm perfectly willing to accept when I'm wrong. But I've been asking this question for 20+ years, and I've never been given a rational answer. I'm not asking for evidence for AGW. Science isn't about proving anything. It's about the good faith effort to disprove everything. The simplest definition of science is systematized skepticism. What I'm asking for is a specific set of circumstances that would disprove the theory. Anyone?

    Ted Bell asked:

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn’t claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn’t science. At best, it’s philosophy. I’m not even saying it’s wrong. I’m saying that something that can’t be disproven, doesn’t qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight.

    Speaking as a Ph.D. physicist, the basic physics that says that anthropogenic CO2 has some warming effect is very straightforward. If that physics were wrong… well, our basic understanding of the physical science would be wrong.

    However, the devil is in the details. The direct effect of anthropogenic CO2 is fairly modest. The real issue is the feedback effects — some will certainly enhance the effect, some will certainly diminish it. And, it is impossible to calculate all those effects from first principles (the really big deal is the details of cloud formation and structure).

    So, any claim for numerical exactitude deserves extreme skepticism. The evidence we have so far is consistent with anthropogenic warming being negligible compared to natural processes; it is also consistent with it being a real problem.

    We just don’t know. And human beings dislike uncertainty.

    A good ongoing discussion of the issues is Judith Curry’s Climate Etc. blog. Judith has a very open commenting policy, so some of the comments are goofy. But she herself is a serious climate scientist who is willing to be honest about the high levels of uncertainty inherent in the subject.

    • Replies: @Dr. Jim
    I think the null hypothesis complaint is best stated as follows: "Global warming compared to what?"

    Is the null hypothesis that the climate of Earth (if there is such a thing and it is measurable) invariant?

    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?
    , @Downstream from Culture
    Richard Lindzen has done some good stuff, too. Admittedly, I think he's a bit less honest about the whole thing than Judith is, but he's fun to read/listen to.
  180. @Kylie
    She needs to be put in check.

    She needs to be put in check.

    Don’t worry. She’s subject to the draft as of next January 3rd.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Sweden

    https://www.thelocal.se/tag/conscription

    Sweden hands out first jail terms for draft evasion since return of conscription

    No mention of how many were women. Kan några svenskar här svara på det?

    • Replies: @Pericles
    We actually had one (1) female soldier in the regiment when I did my military services in the 80s. But she was a volunteer, one of the historic trail blazers I suppose. A sturdy blonde valkyrie who grew ever sturdier from eating the same meal sizes as young men doing manual labor much of the day.

    I haven't followed the topic at all but since the military in its current form can't possibly have positions for everyone age 18, I think they will just select the cream of the crop for now. (Shiny LGBT and women, perhaps with some youthful-seeming migrants?) The rest might get some sort of civilian placement or, most likely, stay home.
  181. Anon[126] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    If anyone is running out of reading material here at Unz, head on over to The Guardian, where the writer seems unaware that she is dating a pre-tranny.

    My boyfriend’s wedding dress unveiled my own shortcomings over masculinity
    by Emily Halnon

    We were at Goodwill searching for dresses to wear during the annual Mother’s Day Climb up Mount St Helens in which both men and women sport flowing garments in honor of female mountaineers and mothers everywhere.

    This was not the first time I’d found myself a little uncomfortable with the sight of Ian in women’s wear. It’s not an unusual sight to spot him sporting a skirt, dress, or sarong at a party, picnic, or trailhead. He uses his unconventional apparel as a display of his individuality and a reflection of his fondness for fun.

    My boyfriend’s wedding dress pushed me to perform a scrupulous inventory of my deepest ideas about masculinity and helped me identify my shortfalls as a woman who wants to help rewrite gender norms. As I went through this exercise, I chatted with a handful of girlfriends about it, who could all identify their own small hang-ups with masculinity: their need for men who are bigger and taller than they are, or who are better than them at sports, or who don’t cry in front of them.

    As we interrogated our feelings about masculinity, we recognized gaps between our ideals and reality. I’m quick to blame men for perpetuating toxic behavior, but in this case, I, the woman, was part of the problem.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/feb/24/my-boyfriend-wedding-dress-unveiled-shortcomings-masculinity

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    "Do you know how I know you're gay?"

    Quick search for the author reveals she's a sporty AWFUL and probable future Karen.

    Also a fruit fly.

    , @miss marple
    I was always afraid to end up a dork or a boor while trying to impress people with my intellect. I see others have no such fears...
  182. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    For a while I had a stunningly beautiful British girlfriend, your dictionary definition of a so-called "English rose," easily the most beautiful girl I've ever been lucky enough to bed, and she used to say, in a rather impolite tone of voice, "you know, I only f!ck American men. I wouldn't be caught dead with an Englishman."

    And before you start all the "Dear Penthouse" jokes, it's actually true. And, ended badly.

    Just spent the day in York at the Jorvik Viking Festival. There were about a half dozen hen parties we saw throughout the day. To a one, they were all butt ugly. Just absolutely atrocious. British women wear more makeup than Hispanics, it’s caked on and makes them look hideous.

    Some of the most unattractive women in the world are here in the UK. They have no ass here.

    You got lucky.

    Then they open their mouths…ice pick to the eyeballs…it’s a throw up as to which is worse to hear talking between English bitches or Russian bitches.

    Gross, one and all.

    Count your blessings that it didn’t work out.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "Some of the most unattractive women in the world are here in the UK. They have no ass here."

    I agree: Brits are the ugliest white people on Earth. Yet your tone is oddly bitter. It reminds me of the perennial gripe of seamen: the food is lousy and there's never enough.

    In England, all the women are butt ugly and none of them will sleep with me! I'm just ribbing you, old chap.

    I think Greta is rather cute despite her mild fetal alcohol syndromic facial features. I love that a mildly retarded sperg is the transnational face of global climate warming weather chaos crisis disruption change -- even a hotel full of comedy writers couldn't come up with something so funny and apt. I also hope she outgrows her adolescent tantruming, meets a nice young man, and makes a big bunch of carbon footprints pitter pattering about her home.

  183. @Alden
    Many kids would be much better off without their Moms.

    While a Mother is of course important, the Dad is what is essential for a boy. And also for a girl, otherwise they grow up with “Daddy issues” and become strippers.
    I am not sure how Greta gets along with Dad, but at least he was present.

    The real problem will be those boys now who were adopted by lesbians and grow up with “two Moms” and no Dad. I can’t think of a worse thing for a boy. Also some lesbian couples are known to have abused or even killed their boys, or to tried to turn him into a newt. I mean, a girl.

  184. @Lockean Proviso
    The great majority of the plastic comes from Asia:

    "Overall, worldwide, most of the plastic trash in the ocean comes from Asia. In fact, the top six countries for ocean garbage are China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, Sri Lanka and Thailand, according to a 2015 study in the journal Science. "

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2018/09/07/great-pacific-garbage-patch-where-did-all-trash-come/1133838002/

    The garbage patch lies between the US mainland and Hawaii on "our side" of the Pacific, so it's more of our problem that they've added to.

    There is no Great Pacific Garbage Island.

    https://slate.com/technology/2016/09/the-great-pacific-garbage-patch-was-the-myth-we-needed-to-save-our-oceans.html

    I am a conservative, so I very much believe in preserving our environment, this isn’t helped by inventing issues that don’t exist, and by hijacking legitimate concerns to serve other purposes.

  185. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    For a while I had a stunningly beautiful British girlfriend, your dictionary definition of a so-called "English rose," easily the most beautiful girl I've ever been lucky enough to bed, and she used to say, in a rather impolite tone of voice, "you know, I only f!ck American men. I wouldn't be caught dead with an Englishman."

    And before you start all the "Dear Penthouse" jokes, it's actually true. And, ended badly.

    “I only f!ck American men.”

    And before you start all the “Dear Penthouse” jokes, it’s actually true. And, ended badly.

    Yeah, the problem with that expression in English is that it has a number of meanings, a number of which aren’t pleasant.

  186. @Hong Xiu Quan
    The argument usually given is per capita pollution, and they do have a point. India and China may pollute more overall but this is because of their large populations, most people there still live a very modest lifestyle.

    The China pollution is also raised by the fact that they make goods for Western consumers, and if all factories making goods for Westwrners were moved back to the West, Chinese pollution levels would plummet. In fact this is one of the rationales behind moving factories to China and other Third World countries (China is no longer Third World, but it was when factories were moved there), plentiful supply of cheap labour and lax environmental protection laws. It costs way less money to just dump the waste than it does to dispose of it in a responsible manner. The former is not possible on Western nations because of strict laws.

    If you had to compare and contrast the similarities between China and India, what would you say?

    How would you compare the long term trajectory of India to China?

    These would seem like important questions. I’d be curious to get a Chinese perspective on this.

  187. @Cloudbuster
    Speaking as a kid who was toted around a lot in childhood -- but not nearly as much as Greta -- the effects were horrendous. No stability. No lasting friends. Always the new kid. Worst of all is the self-absorbed parents, the ones who never give a thought to how what they are doing is affecting you, even when you are begging them to not move you again.

    Greta’s mother is a diva — fairly literally.

  188. Imagine putting up with her for another sixty years…

  189. @Svigor
    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/404/261/a88.png

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0zZk0ewQT4I/W35XDHnfG3I/AAAAAAAKh10/Vy3lZQHD6EUN_RzwABlCuT5-LDO7iM_TQCLcBGAs/s640/1534973467927.jpg

    Hogg drove to school that morning. Statistically, that is far more dangerous than firearms ownership. Especially for teens.

  190. @Guy De Champlagne
    Conservatism is becoming defined and dominated by dysfunctional whites and a dysfunctional white ethos. What that means about conservatism itself as opposed to the vagaries and randomness of the ways that political coalitions emerge is a debate you can have, but you can't just wish away white conservative dysfunction.

    And you can't wish away the incredible success of cultural liberalism. The vast majority of the whites with prestige, money, status, and influence in the US embrace not cultural liberalism but an increasingly strident and extreme version of it but you want us to think that they're all broken and mired in their dysfunction. You sound completely ridiculous.

    The children of non-Jewish white liberals don’t do well (or get murdered by vibrancy…seeing that more and more lately.) A poster above commented perfectly…

    The kids who believe their parents lies have A LOT of problems.

    Best example: Dave Merritt the father of Jack Merritt…Dave’s twitter page is a reminder to everyone on the planet…

    If you die, no one will care about you, not even your father.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    If you die, no one will care about you, not even your father.

    Dunno about that - Dave Merritt is literally a tragic case - he doesn't want to believe his son sacrificed himself on the altar of an insane ideology (an ideology taught in nearly all criminology departments), so he's doubling and tripling down. Suggesting the boy was a well meaning idiot insults his son's memory... of course 99% of such middle-class bleeding heart liberal people DON'T get killed by their pets - the victims are usually other, poorer people.

    Noble (cause he loves his boy) but tragic.

  191. @Nodwink
    My favourite part about her is how crazy she is. Greta will back at UN headquarters in ten years time, feeding the global elite into a giant woodchipper at the Climate Nuremberg.

    Now that would make me fall wildly in love with her.

    (By then she will be so old that even Alden might think once before accusing me of pedophilia)

  192. Greta’s mom wasn’t a major opera singer, but she played the title role in “Carmen” for the Royal Stockholm Opera and was Rosina in “Barber of Seville.” And she represented Sweden in the 2009 Eurovision contest, which is quite high profile.

    Something to keep in mind is that opera singers’ careers go on and on, so it’s not like Mom would hit 40 and be naturally forced into retirement. Opera singers often hit their peaks around 50 or so. So Greta had another decade or more of her mother being a diva to look forward to when she threw her snit fit.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    There's a clip on YouTube that features Greta's mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Doesn't that mean, though, Steve, that Greta's Mom could have taken off from the Opera for 10 years or so (maybe for Greta's being 5 to 15 y/o) and then gotten back to it? She could have practiced at home, during the daytime, with triple-paned windows installed, and the cats sent outside ...
    , @Alden
    Maybe Greta was just jealous. She doesn’t look like either of her parents. Maybe she’s a changling.
  193. @PhysicistDave
    Ted Bell asked:

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn’t claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn’t science. At best, it’s philosophy. I’m not even saying it’s wrong. I’m saying that something that can’t be disproven, doesn’t qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight.
     
    Speaking as a Ph.D. physicist, the basic physics that says that anthropogenic CO2 has some warming effect is very straightforward. If that physics were wrong... well, our basic understanding of the physical science would be wrong.

    However, the devil is in the details. The direct effect of anthropogenic CO2 is fairly modest. The real issue is the feedback effects -- some will certainly enhance the effect, some will certainly diminish it. And, it is impossible to calculate all those effects from first principles (the really big deal is the details of cloud formation and structure).

    So, any claim for numerical exactitude deserves extreme skepticism. The evidence we have so far is consistent with anthropogenic warming being negligible compared to natural processes; it is also consistent with it being a real problem.

    We just don't know. And human beings dislike uncertainty.

    A good ongoing discussion of the issues is Judith Curry's Climate Etc. blog. Judith has a very open commenting policy, so some of the comments are goofy. But she herself is a serious climate scientist who is willing to be honest about the high levels of uncertainty inherent in the subject.

    I think the null hypothesis complaint is best stated as follows: “Global warming compared to what?”

    Is the null hypothesis that the climate of Earth (if there is such a thing and it is measurable) invariant?

    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Travis
    Climate change is the religion of people who think they're too smart for religion

    The earth was warmer than today during Medieval Warming Period. Life thrives under warmer conditions. If global warming continues humanity will be better off. During the Medieval warming period, 1,000 years ago, Vikings were raising cattle, sheep and goats in grasslands on Greenland's southwestern coast. Then, around 1200, temperatures began to drop, and Norse settlements were abandoned around 1350. Atlantic pack ice began to grow around 1250, and shortened growing seasons and unreliable weather patterns led to the "Great Famine" of 1315-1317.

    From a big picture perspective, we are actually living in a low carbon dioxide era. CO2 levels were much higher in the past , prior to the current ice age. Over most of the Earth's known climate history, the atmospheric CO2 levels have been between four and twenty times higher than now - throughout many times when life not only survived but also flourished. how much difference will putting caps on emissions accomplish? Consider also that about 95% of all current atmospheric CO2 derives from natural sources.

    The optimum level of CO2 for plant growth is 5 times what is currently found in our atmosphere. We are already seeing the positive effects of increased CO2 now. Satellite measurements have noted the greening of the earth as crops and forests grow due to our higher levels of co2. It turns out that carbon dioxide are not dirty words after all. We should celebrate CO2 as the giver of life that it is.
    , @Guy De Champlagne
    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?

    But drastically increasing the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere could also be called "radical." You're just playing word games with that term to favor one course of action.

    , @Lockean Proviso

    Is the null hypothesis that the climate of Earth (if there is such a thing and it is measurable) invariant?

    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?
     
    It's not just if it varies, but how quickly it naturally does. If change happened much more gradually over earth history, then highly accelerated change is a new kind of problem to be facing. If a car in front of you puts on the brakes and you're following at a safe distance, you can put on brakes, change velocity relatively slowly, and avoid harm. However, if you hit a heavy object at speed then the sudden change in velocity can do a lot of damage to the vehicle and passengers.
  194. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    For a while I had a stunningly beautiful British girlfriend, your dictionary definition of a so-called "English rose," easily the most beautiful girl I've ever been lucky enough to bed, and she used to say, in a rather impolite tone of voice, "you know, I only f!ck American men. I wouldn't be caught dead with an Englishman."

    And before you start all the "Dear Penthouse" jokes, it's actually true. And, ended badly.

    You know what they say about English girls’ knickers – “One Yank and they’re off”

  195. @Ted Bell
    Science is nothing more than a process:

    Observe phenomena.
    Formulate hypothesis to explain said phenomena.
    Develop criteria by which said hypothesis can be falsified.
    Make good faith effort to falsify, and invite everyone else to do the same.
    The hypothesis stands until falsified, though it's usefulness is forever limited by the scope of it's predictive abilities.

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn't claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn't science. At best, it's philosophy. I'm not even saying it's wrong. I'm saying that something that can't be disproven, doesn't qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight. Tell me exactly which conditions would definitively disprove the AGW concept. I'm perfectly willing to accept when I'm wrong. But I've been asking this question for 20+ years, and I've never been given a rational answer. I'm not asking for evidence for AGW. Science isn't about proving anything. It's about the good faith effort to disprove everything. The simplest definition of science is systematized skepticism. What I'm asking for is a specific set of circumstances that would disprove the theory. Anyone?

    Even before falsifying AGW, you must address and fail to falsify the UNDERLYING hypothesis: “The climate of the Earth is invariant”.

    If the climate of the Earth is NOT invariant, then the invocation of human activity as THE cause, or as a substantial contributing cause, to PRESENT variation becomes a much heavier lift.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    People in Europe believe in global warming because their lying eyes have seen that the glaciers in the Alps have receded way up the mountainsides during their lifetimes. That seems pretty reasonable.

    The same is true in the Sierra Nevadas, although the glaciers were never more than tiny when I was a kid.

  196. @Dr. Jim
    Even before falsifying AGW, you must address and fail to falsify the UNDERLYING hypothesis: "The climate of the Earth is invariant".

    If the climate of the Earth is NOT invariant, then the invocation of human activity as THE cause, or as a substantial contributing cause, to PRESENT variation becomes a much heavier lift.

    People in Europe believe in global warming because their lying eyes have seen that the glaciers in the Alps have receded way up the mountainsides during their lifetimes. That seems pretty reasonable.

    The same is true in the Sierra Nevadas, although the glaciers were never more than tiny when I was a kid.

    • Replies: @Travis
    Glaciers have been shrinking since 1850.

    in the time of the Roman Empire, the Alpine glaciers were smaller than today. And 7,000 years ago they probably weren't around at all.

    The glaciers have shrunk down to almost nothing at least ten times since the last ice age 10,000 years ago. At the time of the Roman Empire, for example, the glacier tongue was about 300 meters higher than today. Hannibal probably never saw a single big chunk of ice when he was crossing the Alps with his army. https://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/the-coming-and-going-of-glaciers-a-new-alpine-melt-theory-a-357366.html

    When Hannibal in 218 BC with his war elephants (in winter!) crossed the Alps and invaded the Roman heartland, the alpine passes were ice-free. This was the time of the Roman climate optimum when Europe was warmer than today.

  197. @Steve Sailer
    Greta's mom wasn't a major opera singer, but she played the title role in "Carmen" for the Royal Stockholm Opera and was Rosina in "Barber of Seville." And she represented Sweden in the 2009 Eurovision contest, which is quite high profile.

    Something to keep in mind is that opera singers' careers go on and on, so it's not like Mom would hit 40 and be naturally forced into retirement. Opera singers often hit their peaks around 50 or so. So Greta had another decade or more of her mother being a diva to look forward to when she threw her snit fit.

    There’s a clip on YouTube that features Greta’s mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.

    • Replies: @Liza

    There’s a clip on YouTube that features Greta’s mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.
     
    I guess you are referring to some modernized, trashy production of a classic opera? It is hard to find anything else these days.

    Here's more:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMtfcP6f8eA

    She is wearing a strapless, sleeveless gown (and whore-height high heels, too) where the top keeps slipping off. So she asks a man from the audience to stand behind her and hold the top of her dress up. Such a great comedy routine...golly, whoever wrote this is a genius.
    , @Dumbo
    I thought she was a serious opera singer, but then I watched some of the videos available on Youtube of her and... I don't know, she seems more like some type of Eurotrash clown (and the Eurovision thing further confirms that).

    Or, if that is what passes for serious opera today, then Western culture is in even worse shape than I thought. Poor Greta. Poor us.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDWB1eM5WFjMWb-KlZ02DWtD-cVbTZwIw
  198. @Anon
    OT

    If anyone is running out of reading material here at Unz, head on over to The Guardian, where the writer seems unaware that she is dating a pre-tranny.

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f87d356d42c534d96d506ff0f649ebf1e044772d/0_472_4032_2419/master/4032.jpg


    My boyfriend’s wedding dress unveiled my own shortcomings over masculinity
    by Emily Halnon

    We were at Goodwill searching for dresses to wear during the annual Mother’s Day Climb up Mount St Helens in which both men and women sport flowing garments in honor of female mountaineers and mothers everywhere.

    This was not the first time I’d found myself a little uncomfortable with the sight of Ian in women’s wear. It’s not an unusual sight to spot him sporting a skirt, dress, or sarong at a party, picnic, or trailhead. He uses his unconventional apparel as a display of his individuality and a reflection of his fondness for fun.

    My boyfriend’s wedding dress pushed me to perform a scrupulous inventory of my deepest ideas about masculinity and helped me identify my shortfalls as a woman who wants to help rewrite gender norms. As I went through this exercise, I chatted with a handful of girlfriends about it, who could all identify their own small hang-ups with masculinity: their need for men who are bigger and taller than they are, or who are better than them at sports, or who don’t cry in front of them.

    As we interrogated our feelings about masculinity, we recognized gaps between our ideals and reality. I’m quick to blame men for perpetuating toxic behavior, but in this case, I, the woman, was part of the problem.
     

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/feb/24/my-boyfriend-wedding-dress-unveiled-shortcomings-masculinity

    “Do you know how I know you’re gay?”

    Quick search for the author reveals she’s a sporty AWFUL and probable future Karen.

    Also a fruit fly.

  199. @LondonBob
    I think Kevin MacDonald linked to a recent study that the more left wing you are the more likely you are to have suffered mental illness issues. I certainly feel like the Brexit, Trump derangement stuff is like some mentally ill people have hijacked the media to engage in some form of primal scream. I have stopped watching most news and reading newspapers because I think it wouldn't be healthy for me.

    “I certainly feel like the Brexit, Trump derangement stuff is like some mentally ill people have hijacked the media to engage in some form of primal scream. I have stopped watching most news and reading newspapers because I think it wouldn’t be healthy for me.”

    I stopped watching or listening to news when the UK Parliament seemed determined not to honour the Brexit referendum. But when Boris won in December I did go on a binge-read of the Guardian and various left blogs, partly to appreciate the “butt-hurt” but also to see if any left or Labour figures had a clue why the voters had spat in their eye.

    A fair few Labour politicians, people who actually went out looking for votes, had worked it out – an MP guy called Ian Lavery had warned that Northern seats were at risk. But on the blogs the mood was more ‘sod these left-behind Northern racists – they deserve everything they get’ – very much how Dem
    activists saw American rust-belt voters.

  200. @Anon
    OT: Beijing is sending police officers to Wuhan because about 1K of Wuhan cops are sick. Since Wuhan is the size of New York, if they have similar staffing--New York has around 38K cops--that means 1 in every 38 Wuhan citizens is sick, according to the cop scale. That comes to 263,000 Wuhan infections, or at least infections strong enough to show symptons. But if those 2495 deaths reported for Hubei province are all in Wuhan, that means their death rate is around 1%.

    The death rate for non-Chinese countries at this point is 1.2%. With more data from non-Chinese countries, we'll have more clarity.

    The main problem with this virus may not be because it's particularly lethal--it doesn't seem to be--rather that it's so infectious that everyone is going to get it. It'll find every person who's most likely to die from it.

    Thanks for the info, #188, but that one assumption in there, that the police in China have as much a presence in the cities as NY or American cities have is the real guess in your calculation. I’ve been over there many times. I can’t give you numbers unfortunately, but I can tell you that you don’t see the presence of police for traffic duty or just donut shop duty* nearly as much as you do here. Granted, they don’t have black ghettos.

    In some ways, China is less of a police state as America, though with these videos of events regarding this virus, you see some of the worst of theirs. (When they do their thing, they don’t even have the pretense of having due process or any of that business.)

    .

    * …the Chinese knowing exactly squat about baking and tasty baked goods.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    A lot of what goes on in China is based on the fact that they have a (corrupt) Fascist government and don't trust their own people (for good reason). So private security guards are illegal. Everything within the state, nothing without the state, as the old Fascist motto goes. If you want a security guard for your business, you have to hire one from the "militia" (this is also a source of revenue for local government). But they don't want a lot of ill trained people carrying guns around so the militia are unarmed. In practice, this means you get some joker to stand at your building's gate but instead of paying him minimum wage you have to hire him from local government at a markup.

    But generally speaking you are correct that on a day to day basis government is a lot less heavy handed than in America. In the US if you have a business there are all sorts of "inspectors" constantly coming around to fine and harass you over safety violations, labor law violations, racial discrimination, environmental laws, etc., etc., etc. and you don't get that in China. There are not armies of nasty black ladies paid to make your life miserable. On the other hand, the local government probably has equity in the local factory or even owns it outright - it is not in their economic interest to harass you constantly and treat you as the enemy.

    BTW, strongly recommend watching the documentary "American Factory" about a Chinese glass making billionaire who converts an ex-GM factory in Ohio into an auto glass factory. It's not just government that's the problem in the US - it's the workforce, especially one that was trained by the UAW to regard their employer as the enemy and your job as an opportunity to do as little work as possible.

    There are not a lot of beat cops because there is not a lot of violent crime. The Chinese would like to get the best of you in some negotiated business transaction - sell you a fake watch or something. Just grabbing your purse and running off is not sporting - no challenge in it. And if they catch you, there is a long list of crimes for which the death penalty applies and they actually execute people so there is a strong deterrent effect.

    Once you forget all about the idea of China as a "Communist" country and think of it as a kind of Mafia state then it all makes sense. The Mafia is not anti-business. They don't hate it when you are successful - they just want a "taste" of the action. Bernie type socialists are not happy until everyone is equally poor and miserable.

    I've actually had some pretty good croissant in Shanghai. There are chains that specialize in French pastry. But their traditional pastries kind of suck to Western taste buds - bean paste is not my idea of a tasty filling.

  201. @Steve Sailer
    Greta's mom wasn't a major opera singer, but she played the title role in "Carmen" for the Royal Stockholm Opera and was Rosina in "Barber of Seville." And she represented Sweden in the 2009 Eurovision contest, which is quite high profile.

    Something to keep in mind is that opera singers' careers go on and on, so it's not like Mom would hit 40 and be naturally forced into retirement. Opera singers often hit their peaks around 50 or so. So Greta had another decade or more of her mother being a diva to look forward to when she threw her snit fit.

    Doesn’t that mean, though, Steve, that Greta’s Mom could have taken off from the Opera for 10 years or so (maybe for Greta’s being 5 to 15 y/o) and then gotten back to it? She could have practiced at home, during the daytime, with triple-paned windows installed, and the cats sent outside …

  202. @Me
    The children of non-Jewish white liberals don't do well (or get murdered by vibrancy...seeing that more and more lately.) A poster above commented perfectly...

    The kids who believe their parents lies have A LOT of problems.

    Best example: Dave Merritt the father of Jack Merritt...Dave's twitter page is a reminder to everyone on the planet...

    If you die, no one will care about you, not even your father.

    If you die, no one will care about you, not even your father.

    Dunno about that – Dave Merritt is literally a tragic case – he doesn’t want to believe his son sacrificed himself on the altar of an insane ideology (an ideology taught in nearly all criminology departments), so he’s doubling and tripling down. Suggesting the boy was a well meaning idiot insults his son’s memory… of course 99% of such middle-class bleeding heart liberal people DON’T get killed by their pets – the victims are usually other, poorer people.

    Noble (cause he loves his boy) but tragic.

  203. @Lockean Proviso
    The great majority of the plastic comes from Asia:

    "Overall, worldwide, most of the plastic trash in the ocean comes from Asia. In fact, the top six countries for ocean garbage are China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, Sri Lanka and Thailand, according to a 2015 study in the journal Science. "

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2018/09/07/great-pacific-garbage-patch-where-did-all-trash-come/1133838002/

    The garbage patch lies between the US mainland and Hawaii on "our side" of the Pacific, so it's more of our problem that they've added to.

    Right, it’s not just Asia, but specifically China. In an article on “BigThink.com”, Just 10 streams carry 95% of all river-borne plastic into the ocean, you can read that, of the top 10 rivers for supplying plastic trash to the ocean, the Yangtze alone provides more than all the others combined. The top 4 are in China.

    My Peak Stupidity post references that article along with relating an anecdote from the zoo, in which we were harangued about plastic bags the whole damn time we were trying to peacefully watch the seals and sea lions – Trash in the rivers – get off our case, zookeepers!.

    Here is a map from the Peak Stupidity, but there’s a chart with numbers in the original:

  204. Joining a church and sincerely praying for forgiveness clears up a mental illness rather well.

    They spend too much time in their own heads only looking at a small piece of the picture of life.

  205. @ConfirmationBias
    AOC is almost definitely in heels. That said, Greta looks much shorter than 5’4... which coincidentally feels short for a Swede, but is actually much taller than average for, say, an indian or Chinese woman. Kim Kardashian is 5’2. Lady Gaga is 5’1. Ariana Grande is 5 or 4’11.

    So, on the short side, but calling her stunted is a stretch. But it does feel nice to attack the people we don’t like on their looks, height, mental conditions or intellect, doesn’t it?

    That confirms what I’ve always thought: most American female erotic icons (more or less, won’t go into details) are, basically – midgets.

  206. @Reg Cæsar

    Then can you explain why that blob of plastic must be the fault of wypipo?
     
    It consists primarily of used tubes of Darkie toothpaste.


    https://digitalcommons.usm.maine.edu/aas_items/1002/preview.jpg

    Nah, the tubes are metal. Only the caps are plastic.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Nah, the tubes are metal. Only the caps are plastic.
     
    How would you know that?


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    , @Reg Cæsar
    You know too much. You are cancelled!
  207. @Lockean Proviso

    Yes, she is pure. A Northern New Saint of the Godless 21st Century Europe. A virgin even.
     
    Wait, I thought that being full-on promiscuously and miscegenationously perverse was the new virtue. Shouldn't she get tatted up and pierced, undergo gender transition, and become a cam tran who has sex with multiracial lesbians and trans men and then donates the porn revenue to Greenpeace? That would be sainthood in the new globohomo faith.

    She is a virgin and says so and the deeper longing seems to be that for the Pure old Virgin. None of those sexo-matic-maniacs (wasn’t that – – Macy Gray – didn’t she want to run a stylish sex-club after her career?!) did achieve the same kind of unquestionable super-saint-status.

    David Guterson got this in Our Lady from the Forest – this longing of the public for something unquestionable, true, and pure above all – and that’s what virgins – symbolize… Virgins and
    – – – dwarfs, at times as well, hehe – see?… Jonathan Franzen was close to this stuff in – Purity, of course.

    Should I mention Carl Gustav Jung now? Oh – Joann of Arc might be a good example.

  208. @Ted Bell
    Science is nothing more than a process:

    Observe phenomena.
    Formulate hypothesis to explain said phenomena.
    Develop criteria by which said hypothesis can be falsified.
    Make good faith effort to falsify, and invite everyone else to do the same.
    The hypothesis stands until falsified, though it's usefulness is forever limited by the scope of it's predictive abilities.

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn't claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn't science. At best, it's philosophy. I'm not even saying it's wrong. I'm saying that something that can't be disproven, doesn't qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight. Tell me exactly which conditions would definitively disprove the AGW concept. I'm perfectly willing to accept when I'm wrong. But I've been asking this question for 20+ years, and I've never been given a rational answer. I'm not asking for evidence for AGW. Science isn't about proving anything. It's about the good faith effort to disprove everything. The simplest definition of science is systematized skepticism. What I'm asking for is a specific set of circumstances that would disprove the theory. Anyone?

    It’s not philosophy, it’s religion.

  209. @The Wild Geese Howard
    There's a clip on YouTube that features Greta's mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.

    There’s a clip on YouTube that features Greta’s mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.

    I guess you are referring to some modernized, trashy production of a classic opera? It is hard to find anything else these days.

    Here’s more:

    She is wearing a strapless, sleeveless gown (and whore-height high heels, too) where the top keeps slipping off. So she asks a man from the audience to stand behind her and hold the top of her dress up. Such a great comedy routine…golly, whoever wrote this is a genius.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    I guess you are referring to some modernized, trashy production of a classic opera? It is hard to find anything else these days.
     
    Yes.

    I swear there was a clip of her clad in black lingerie rolling around in bed with a male opera singer of Heinz 57 extraction somewhere on the Net.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    That's Sweden's answer to Victor Borge?



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3Z1HnNvD0

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxRxgR3DGyU

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-UGaIb7Nbgk

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Z2mrpqtRo
    , @Alden
    I watched. It’s totally vulgar. It’s something out of SNL or a modern 3 Stooges show. Maybe she wants to make Opera vulgar for the masses.
  210. @newrouter
    >You do have to accept reduction in consumption and decide what to do with all the people that legitimately can’t afford carbon free energy<

    You communists really enjoy killing millions of people at a time.

    You communists really enjoy killing millions of people at a time.

    It’s more like billions although I don’t advocate letting them die.

  211. @Dr. Jim
    I think the null hypothesis complaint is best stated as follows: "Global warming compared to what?"

    Is the null hypothesis that the climate of Earth (if there is such a thing and it is measurable) invariant?

    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?

    Climate change is the religion of people who think they’re too smart for religion

    The earth was warmer than today during Medieval Warming Period. Life thrives under warmer conditions. If global warming continues humanity will be better off. During the Medieval warming period, 1,000 years ago, Vikings were raising cattle, sheep and goats in grasslands on Greenland’s southwestern coast. Then, around 1200, temperatures began to drop, and Norse settlements were abandoned around 1350. Atlantic pack ice began to grow around 1250, and shortened growing seasons and unreliable weather patterns led to the “Great Famine” of 1315-1317.

    From a big picture perspective, we are actually living in a low carbon dioxide era. CO2 levels were much higher in the past , prior to the current ice age. Over most of the Earth’s known climate history, the atmospheric CO2 levels have been between four and twenty times higher than now – throughout many times when life not only survived but also flourished. how much difference will putting caps on emissions accomplish? Consider also that about 95% of all current atmospheric CO2 derives from natural sources.

    The optimum level of CO2 for plant growth is 5 times what is currently found in our atmosphere. We are already seeing the positive effects of increased CO2 now. Satellite measurements have noted the greening of the earth as crops and forests grow due to our higher levels of co2. It turns out that carbon dioxide are not dirty words after all. We should celebrate CO2 as the giver of life that it is.

  212. @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks for the info, #188, but that one assumption in there, that the police in China have as much a presence in the cities as NY or American cities have is the real guess in your calculation. I've been over there many times. I can't give you numbers unfortunately, but I can tell you that you don't see the presence of police for traffic duty or just donut shop duty* nearly as much as you do here. Granted, they don't have black ghettos.

    In some ways, China is less of a police state as America, though with these videos of events regarding this virus, you see some of the worst of theirs. (When they do their thing, they don't even have the pretense of having due process or any of that business.)

    .


    * ...the Chinese knowing exactly squat about baking and tasty baked goods.

    A lot of what goes on in China is based on the fact that they have a (corrupt) Fascist government and don’t trust their own people (for good reason). So private security guards are illegal. Everything within the state, nothing without the state, as the old Fascist motto goes. If you want a security guard for your business, you have to hire one from the “militia” (this is also a source of revenue for local government). But they don’t want a lot of ill trained people carrying guns around so the militia are unarmed. In practice, this means you get some joker to stand at your building’s gate but instead of paying him minimum wage you have to hire him from local government at a markup.

    But generally speaking you are correct that on a day to day basis government is a lot less heavy handed than in America. In the US if you have a business there are all sorts of “inspectors” constantly coming around to fine and harass you over safety violations, labor law violations, racial discrimination, environmental laws, etc., etc., etc. and you don’t get that in China. There are not armies of nasty black ladies paid to make your life miserable. On the other hand, the local government probably has equity in the local factory or even owns it outright – it is not in their economic interest to harass you constantly and treat you as the enemy.

    BTW, strongly recommend watching the documentary “American Factory” about a Chinese glass making billionaire who converts an ex-GM factory in Ohio into an auto glass factory. It’s not just government that’s the problem in the US – it’s the workforce, especially one that was trained by the UAW to regard their employer as the enemy and your job as an opportunity to do as little work as possible.

    There are not a lot of beat cops because there is not a lot of violent crime. The Chinese would like to get the best of you in some negotiated business transaction – sell you a fake watch or something. Just grabbing your purse and running off is not sporting – no challenge in it. And if they catch you, there is a long list of crimes for which the death penalty applies and they actually execute people so there is a strong deterrent effect.

    Once you forget all about the idea of China as a “Communist” country and think of it as a kind of Mafia state then it all makes sense. The Mafia is not anti-business. They don’t hate it when you are successful – they just want a “taste” of the action. Bernie type socialists are not happy until everyone is equally poor and miserable.

    I’ve actually had some pretty good croissant in Shanghai. There are chains that specialize in French pastry. But their traditional pastries kind of suck to Western taste buds – bean paste is not my idea of a tasty filling.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    I haven't seen either of these two movies (only the associated meme *), but I bet "American Factory" would make an interesting comparison with "Empire of Dust," in which the Chinese businessman goes to Congo:

    https://filmmakermagazine.com/35197-empire-of-dust-an-interview-with-bram-van-paesschen/

    Filmmaker: Your film depicts many racist exchanges between the Chinese and the Congolese. It makes you wonder how they’re able to co-exist and, to some extent, get work done.

    Van Paesschen: I must say that there are other countries investing in the country—Canada, the United States, Australia and South Africa are some of the main players. They are quite crude and racist too, but they hide it. They make these partnerships with NGOs and pretend they care about human rights, but they really don’t like it. The Chinese are honest. So in a way, what should one appreciate more? The honesty or the hypocritical stance of the Western companies? [The Chinese] don’t care about human rights and they’re honest about it. “We don’t care. We’re here to do our job. And we’re here to invest in the country.”
     
    * the meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-all-so-tiresome

    The Chinese workers are dissatisfied with the lack of communication among the native workers, which they see as essential for productivity. At one point in the documentary, the workers miscount when loading a truck and are missing materials upon arrival. Lao Yang is told by a worker that he cannot contact the "gravel guy" because the guy rarely answers his phone in the morning. Lao Yang replies that it's already past 12:00 PM. The phrase "It's all so tiresome" is spoken by a frustrated Lao Yang in reaction to his experience working with the Africans.
     
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Great comment, Jack. You describe the difference very well. I disagree with one part - there is plenty of petty crime and even serious crime. It just doesn't get nearly as violent. In Canton (some call it Guangzhou) the city banned motorcycles because too many guys were riding by women and grabbing their purses, often causing serious injuries as they rode off with them still "attached".

    There are burglar bars all over, and not just on 1st stories, as Chinese crooks are not your dumb ghetto thugs. They have a lot of tricks. These same burglar bars are a good example of one of your other points though. There is no OSHA, and I saw lots of places in which the small-time manufacturers of the burglar bars were tack-welding them out on the wide sidewalk, running out of room inside! I just had to step around or even through them. There were no complaints by anybody, and that's how stuff gets done.

    It may have eased up due to the ending of the 1-child policy, but little boys would get snatched and kidnapped on trains. Moms and Dads do not let go of the children as parents do here. They seem to worry a lot about the snatching of their children, and no one seems to trust anyone who isn't family or in that guanxi with them.

    It's not all good, but the high-level violence from certain types here in our big cities is just not present.

    Lastly, on the baking, there is that steamed bread, which is not bad when you get used to it, but most families don't have ovens, not due to cost, but due to the culture. Maybe that Shanghai stuff was made because there are loads of foreigners there, but good baking is just not a part of Chinese culture.

    Thanks for the interesting reply, Jack.
  213. @Dr. Jim
    I think the null hypothesis complaint is best stated as follows: "Global warming compared to what?"

    Is the null hypothesis that the climate of Earth (if there is such a thing and it is measurable) invariant?

    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?

    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?

    But drastically increasing the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere could also be called “radical.” You’re just playing word games with that term to favor one course of action.

  214. @Guy De Champlagne
    Greta and her family look like they're in pretty good shape. It's much more the people who whon't shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry "assault weapons" to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese.

    “It’s much more the people who whon’t shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry “assault weapons” to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese.”

    If that were so, blacks would vote GOP @90%, not Democrat.

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    Obese black people have their own, separate fantasies that are more conducive to left wing politics (oppressed by white people, helpless victim of metabolism, actually beautiful but only considered ugly because of some kind of conspiracy, etc.). Although black left wing fantasies around guns and manual labor are certainly not unheard of.
  215. @Cloudbuster
    There is no visible blob of plastic or garbage in the middle of the Pacific. It's not an obvious metaphor to the kids and in every article I've seen regarding this, deliberate misinformation has been encouraged by accompanying the story with close-up shots of polluted urban waterways in India or Brazil, or garbage-filled coastal waters in the wake of a major tsunami. I have no doubt the kids' lessons do the same.

    I also doubt Greta was informed by her teacher that the invisible microplastics in the Pacific gyre (micropastics that are only extremely speculatively harmful) largely come from Asia, or she wouldn't spend all her time haranguing Westerners, would she?

    It’s an obvious metaphor in the sense that noone thinks you can stand on it like you can an island or that it is completely contiguous like an island is. But reading up on it, you’re right that people are being misled as to how noticeable and substantial it is.

    Greta Thurnberg doesn’t talk much about this issue at all since her thing is greenhouse gases, and not ocean waste. Those are two different things, something that a lot of people don’t seem to be able to understand.

    And yes environmentalism is dominated by leftists and has all sorts of left wing assumptions and biases. That’s why right wingers should become more involved but they use that fact to justify doing the opposite and making the problem worse.

    • Replies: @Rob

    ... that noone thinks...
     
    No one
  216. @Danindc
    Native Hawaiians seem like total assholes

    Indeed; next to California itself, Hawaii would be ideal for neutron bomb tests (the people die, but the glorious scenery remains untouched).

  217. @Guy De Champlagne
    Lies like how the great pacific garbage patch is actually only 1.6 million square km while mexico is actually 1.9 million? Or lies like how its not literally an island and is only an obvious metaphor?

    The same people who want me to believe their sky-is-falling scheme about the climate oscillate between denying whites are being slowly genocided/extinctified, justifying the slow genocide/extinction of whites, or cheering the slow genocide/extinction of whites.

    I’m handcuffed to the bedpost and my house is burning down around me and they’re saying “fuck you, I’m keeping the keys, now give me your wallet so I can prevent my house being burned down.”

    There’s really no proportionate way to say, “go fuck yourself” to that.

    Until they start sh0wing as much interest in whites surviving as they do in the snowy egret or the snail darter, this planet can burn to a cinder, for all I care. I’ll be oscillating between denial, justification, and celebration.

    • Thanks: Liza
    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    I'm pro white and pro environment. There's nothing contradictory there.
  218. @Guy De Champlagne
    Yes Greta Thurnberg is a ridiculous figure in lots of ways (although a quite enthralling and enchanting one as well) but the people arguing for the reality of AGW and taking actions to reverse it have lots of people on their side, including a solid consensus of scientists. So who really are the ridiculous ones?

    AGW? Wow did you just beam in from the 1990s? Current Year goodthinkers know its not warming, its climate change. Thus there is a scientific consensus that the climate is warming/cooling, that there be more/less rainfall, more/less snow etc.

  219. @Hong Xiu Quan
    The argument usually given is per capita pollution, and they do have a point. India and China may pollute more overall but this is because of their large populations, most people there still live a very modest lifestyle.

    The China pollution is also raised by the fact that they make goods for Western consumers, and if all factories making goods for Westwrners were moved back to the West, Chinese pollution levels would plummet. In fact this is one of the rationales behind moving factories to China and other Third World countries (China is no longer Third World, but it was when factories were moved there), plentiful supply of cheap labour and lax environmental protection laws. It costs way less money to just dump the waste than it does to dispose of it in a responsible manner. The former is not possible on Western nations because of strict laws.

    Interesting choice of reaction. Tell me, which planets are these nations on? Are there ever any alignments wherein their various atmospheres ever connect?

  220. @Change that Matters
    The liars are now inverting reality to such an extent it's hard to believe killing active citizens has not crossed their minds.

    This woman seriously believes the "low carbon footprint" of the ‘economically inactive" means they are actually productive. It's not a very large step to doing away with the "economically active" because they must by this equation be a net drag on society.

    https://twitter.com/lucysiegle/status/1231859213309222914

  221. OT, two pre-Lenten BBC stories

    Someone’s driven a car into a German carnival parade.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51619353

    Belgian carnival parade satirises those who cannot be satirised.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51612541

    “Belgian PM Sophie Wilmès said the pretend Jews in the Aalst parade “harm our values and our country’s reputation”.

    The use of stereotypes stigmatising communities and groups based on their origins leads to divisions and endangers our togetherness,” she said.”

    Except the Brits, who were satirised on a Brexit float, though note the guy on the left.

    • Thanks: Liza
    • Replies: @A123
    Hillary was featured in a Mardi Gras float this year.

    https://twitter.com/20yroldfatchick/status/1231350889245552649?s=20

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/02/23/hillary-cameo-on-the-epstein-didnt-kill-himself-float-was-the-toast-of-mardi-gras-890276
  222. @Anonymous
    OT

    I don't know squat about Golf, but I did run into this

    Louisville golfer and hall-of-famer Don Fightmaster dies at 87

    Dustin Vogt
    1 day ago


    LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WAVE) - Don Fightmaster, famous one-armed championship golfer from Louisville, has died at 87 on Thursday after a long battle with Alzheimer’s.

    Louisville Don Fightmaster, famous one-armed championship golfer from Louisville, has died at 87 on Thursday after a long battle with Alzheimer’s.

    Fightmaster was born in Louisville on June 13, 1932 and was a graduate from Male High School. He earned a Bachelors Degree at the University of Louisville, with a Masters degree from Indiana
    He served in the US Air Force in the 1950s, where he lost his left arm in a jeep accident.

    Fightmaster continued golfing and won many awards and championships, including winning the International One-Armed Golf Tournament twice, the National One-Armed Golf Tournament seven times, and the International Senior One-Arm Tournament in Scotland.

    In Louisville, Fightmaster founded the Don Fightmaster Foundation for Exceptional Children in 1979, benefiting local children with special needs. The Don Fightmaster Golf Outing has been a part of the Kentucky Derby Festival for more than 10 years.

    From there, Fightmaster went on to become one of the founders of the North American One-Arm Golfer Association in 2008, where the Fightmaster Cup was created.

    Fightmaster was inducted into the Kentucky Golf Hall of Fame in 1998. He was also inducted into the Amateur Softball Association Hall of Fame, Male High School Hall of Fame, and the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame.

    Funeral arrangements have been made for Fightmaster. Visitation will be Monday, February 23 from 3:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. at Ratterman Brothers Funeral Home on Shelbyville Road. Fightmaster will be buried at Cave Hill Cemetery on Tuesday.

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/louisville-golfer-and-hall-of-famer-don-fightmaster-dies-at-87/ar-BB10hgT6


    1) What a moniker! I'd never heard of the guy or anyone else named "Fightmaster". Sounds like something out of a Judge Dredd comic.

    2) Was he a one armed pro golfer really? Again, it had escaped my notice that there was such a thing.

    “1) What a moniker! I’d never heard of the guy or anyone else named “Fightmaster”. ”

    Donald Rumsfeld’s official title?

    Rumsfeld Hosts No-Holds-Barred Martial Arts Tournament At Remote Island Fortress

    https://politics.theonion.com/rumsfeld-hosts-no-holds-barred-martial-arts-tournament-1819567287

  223. most people commenting here blame the parents for their daughters mental illness…..Yet when it comes to Blacks we attribute 100% their mental problems to their genes.

  224. @Guy De Champlagne
    As for real estate, even people that think markets are magic don't think markets can say much about the future past ~20 years from now because of the present discount of future earnings. And noone claims its even possible to pinpoint future prime real estate because noone knows what future emissions will be, what kind of countermeasures (e.g. sea walls, carbon sequestration, etc.) will be deployed, or even the exact consequences of fixed emissions holding all else equal.

    Noone doubts that Venice has serious problems that need to be addressed to prevent it from sinking into the adriatic, but go try to buy a house in venice (spoiler alert: they're really fucking expensive).

    As for nuclear energy, one is perfectly allowed to think that greenhouse gas emissions and nuclear energy are both bad things. Not to mention that the kind of breakneck nuclear expansion needed to replace a significant portion of current carbon emitting sources of energy in a timely manner would itself cause new safety issues and, by many accounts, would be impossible due to shortages in highly specialized materials and expertise.

    As for real estate, even people that think markets are magic don’t think markets can say much about the future past ~20 years from now because of the present discount of future earnings …

    As for the beach property indicator, you make a good case. Both the discount rate and the “where’s the beach going to be” make assessing real belief there very difficult.

    Nonetheless, i think it’s fair to say that with today’s (QE age) discount rates it’s pretty clear rich people don’t believe global warming is going to change everything … real soon. They’ll be seriously underwater if they end up underwater.

    But your nuclear power take:

    As for nuclear energy, one is perfectly allowed to think that greenhouse gas emissions and nuclear energy are both bad things. Not to mention that the kind of breakneck nuclear expansion needed to replace a significant portion of current carbon emitting sources of energy in a timely manner would itself cause new safety issues and, by many accounts, would be impossible due to shortages in highly specialized materials and expertise.

    does not wash.

    Sure most enviros think nukes have kooties.

    But if global warming is the existential crisis , the crisis that will absolutely sink humanity, the planet, then even if you believe you’ll have some radiactive sites, and some (it’s a small volume) radiative waste … you are willing to do that to give people a “save the planet” option that gets them on board–i.e. doesn’t involve turning them into serfs on the organic pig farm … or soylent green.

    It’s true that in the minds of some enviros the nuke thing is also an apocalyptic nightmare of “poisoned earth”. But if that’s their level of scientific literacy and basic numeracy … why should we pay any attention to their opinion about the far more complex issue of global warming?

    No, in fact, the nuclear energy position is a very clear indicator. We have this technology that while it requires some serious management and safety discipline–tractable regulatory projects– works right now and emits zero CO2. And–excepting a few serious global warming scientists on board–the vast apparatus of global warming politicians, activists, scribblers and screechers … do not want to use it!

    Maybe global warming as an ideology, a political movement, is about something else?

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    Yes its true that if existing energy sources were guaranteeing an apocalyptic nightmare and nuclear energy were the only alternative then even if nuclear just offered just the possibility of a nightmare it would be better. But nuclear is not the only alternative now (e.g. reduction in energy use, renewable sources like wind, solar, and biomass, fossil fuels + sequestration) and possibly others that will be developed in the near term. Also, while some people may believe those nightmare predictions about CO2, many people that are worried about greenhouse gases don't think that we're guaranteed an apocalypse on the current trajectory but just think there's enough evidence to warrant a return to preindustrial greenhouse gas levels.
    , @Lockean Proviso

    nuclear energy position is a very clear indicator. We have this technology that while it requires some serious management and safety discipline–tractable regulatory projects– works right now and emits zero CO2
     
    Nuclear isn't CO2 zero emission. A lot is produced in concrete use, metal refining for reactors, fuel mining and transport, and decommissioning.

    Nevertheless, I support nuclear, especially prioritizing thorium reactor R&D because it would be comparably safer and the fuel is more abundant versus uranium power production. Also, we should have a standardized design and maybe build large facilities in desert or wastelands far from population centers and use low-loss direct current power lines to get the electricity to them.

  225. @Liza

    There’s a clip on YouTube that features Greta’s mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.
     
    I guess you are referring to some modernized, trashy production of a classic opera? It is hard to find anything else these days.

    Here's more:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMtfcP6f8eA

    She is wearing a strapless, sleeveless gown (and whore-height high heels, too) where the top keeps slipping off. So she asks a man from the audience to stand behind her and hold the top of her dress up. Such a great comedy routine...golly, whoever wrote this is a genius.

    I guess you are referring to some modernized, trashy production of a classic opera? It is hard to find anything else these days.

    Yes.

    I swear there was a clip of her clad in black lingerie rolling around in bed with a male opera singer of Heinz 57 extraction somewhere on the Net.

    • LOL: Liza
  226. @Jack D
    A lot of what goes on in China is based on the fact that they have a (corrupt) Fascist government and don't trust their own people (for good reason). So private security guards are illegal. Everything within the state, nothing without the state, as the old Fascist motto goes. If you want a security guard for your business, you have to hire one from the "militia" (this is also a source of revenue for local government). But they don't want a lot of ill trained people carrying guns around so the militia are unarmed. In practice, this means you get some joker to stand at your building's gate but instead of paying him minimum wage you have to hire him from local government at a markup.

    But generally speaking you are correct that on a day to day basis government is a lot less heavy handed than in America. In the US if you have a business there are all sorts of "inspectors" constantly coming around to fine and harass you over safety violations, labor law violations, racial discrimination, environmental laws, etc., etc., etc. and you don't get that in China. There are not armies of nasty black ladies paid to make your life miserable. On the other hand, the local government probably has equity in the local factory or even owns it outright - it is not in their economic interest to harass you constantly and treat you as the enemy.

    BTW, strongly recommend watching the documentary "American Factory" about a Chinese glass making billionaire who converts an ex-GM factory in Ohio into an auto glass factory. It's not just government that's the problem in the US - it's the workforce, especially one that was trained by the UAW to regard their employer as the enemy and your job as an opportunity to do as little work as possible.

    There are not a lot of beat cops because there is not a lot of violent crime. The Chinese would like to get the best of you in some negotiated business transaction - sell you a fake watch or something. Just grabbing your purse and running off is not sporting - no challenge in it. And if they catch you, there is a long list of crimes for which the death penalty applies and they actually execute people so there is a strong deterrent effect.

    Once you forget all about the idea of China as a "Communist" country and think of it as a kind of Mafia state then it all makes sense. The Mafia is not anti-business. They don't hate it when you are successful - they just want a "taste" of the action. Bernie type socialists are not happy until everyone is equally poor and miserable.

    I've actually had some pretty good croissant in Shanghai. There are chains that specialize in French pastry. But their traditional pastries kind of suck to Western taste buds - bean paste is not my idea of a tasty filling.

    I haven’t seen either of these two movies (only the associated meme *), but I bet “American Factory” would make an interesting comparison with “Empire of Dust,” in which the Chinese businessman goes to Congo:

    https://filmmakermagazine.com/35197-empire-of-dust-an-interview-with-bram-van-paesschen/

    Filmmaker: Your film depicts many racist exchanges between the Chinese and the Congolese. It makes you wonder how they’re able to co-exist and, to some extent, get work done.

    Van Paesschen: I must say that there are other countries investing in the country—Canada, the United States, Australia and South Africa are some of the main players. They are quite crude and racist too, but they hide it. They make these partnerships with NGOs and pretend they care about human rights, but they really don’t like it. The Chinese are honest. So in a way, what should one appreciate more? The honesty or the hypocritical stance of the Western companies? [The Chinese] don’t care about human rights and they’re honest about it. “We don’t care. We’re here to do our job. And we’re here to invest in the country.”

    * the meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-all-so-tiresome

    The Chinese workers are dissatisfied with the lack of communication among the native workers, which they see as essential for productivity. At one point in the documentary, the workers miscount when loading a truck and are missing materials upon arrival. Lao Yang is told by a worker that he cannot contact the “gravel guy” because the guy rarely answers his phone in the morning. Lao Yang replies that it’s already past 12:00 PM. The phrase “It’s all so tiresome” is spoken by a frustrated Lao Yang in reaction to his experience working with the Africans.

    • Agree: Liza
  227. @kaganovitch
    Nah, the tubes are metal. Only the caps are plastic.

    Nah, the tubes are metal. Only the caps are plastic.

    How would you know that?

    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    Gracious! Where's that American Pravda [MORE] thingy when you really need it?
    , @kaganovitch
    How would you know that?


    A-You can see from the pattern of dents in the tube that it's metal

    B - I have a friend who has a tube and it's metal
  228. @Reg Cæsar

    Nah, the tubes are metal. Only the caps are plastic.
     
    How would you know that?


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    Gracious! Where’s that American Pravda [MORE] thingy when you really need it?

  229. @PhysicistDave
    Ted Bell asked:

    The anthropogenic global warming concept has NO FALSIFYABLE HYPOTHESIS. There is no possible state of the climate which isn’t claimed to be consistent with the theory, therefore it simply isn’t science. At best, it’s philosophy. I’m not even saying it’s wrong. I’m saying that something that can’t be disproven, doesn’t qualify as science.

    By all means, everyone, feel free to set me straight.
     
    Speaking as a Ph.D. physicist, the basic physics that says that anthropogenic CO2 has some warming effect is very straightforward. If that physics were wrong... well, our basic understanding of the physical science would be wrong.

    However, the devil is in the details. The direct effect of anthropogenic CO2 is fairly modest. The real issue is the feedback effects -- some will certainly enhance the effect, some will certainly diminish it. And, it is impossible to calculate all those effects from first principles (the really big deal is the details of cloud formation and structure).

    So, any claim for numerical exactitude deserves extreme skepticism. The evidence we have so far is consistent with anthropogenic warming being negligible compared to natural processes; it is also consistent with it being a real problem.

    We just don't know. And human beings dislike uncertainty.

    A good ongoing discussion of the issues is Judith Curry's Climate Etc. blog. Judith has a very open commenting policy, so some of the comments are goofy. But she herself is a serious climate scientist who is willing to be honest about the high levels of uncertainty inherent in the subject.

    Richard Lindzen has done some good stuff, too. Admittedly, I think he’s a bit less honest about the whole thing than Judith is, but he’s fun to read/listen to.

  230. @kaganovitch
    Nah, the tubes are metal. Only the caps are plastic.

    You know too much. You are cancelled!

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  231. @AnotherDad


    As for real estate, even people that think markets are magic don’t think markets can say much about the future past ~20 years from now because of the present discount of future earnings ...

     

    As for the beach property indicator, you make a good case. Both the discount rate and the "where's the beach going to be" make assessing real belief there very difficult.

    Nonetheless, i think it's fair to say that with today's (QE age) discount rates it's pretty clear rich people don't believe global warming is going to change everything ... real soon. They'll be seriously underwater if they end up underwater.

    But your nuclear power take:


    As for nuclear energy, one is perfectly allowed to think that greenhouse gas emissions and nuclear energy are both bad things. Not to mention that the kind of breakneck nuclear expansion needed to replace a significant portion of current carbon emitting sources of energy in a timely manner would itself cause new safety issues and, by many accounts, would be impossible due to shortages in highly specialized materials and expertise.
     
    does not wash.

    Sure most enviros think nukes have kooties.

    But if global warming is the existential crisis , the crisis that will absolutely sink humanity, the planet, then even if you believe you'll have some radiactive sites, and some (it's a small volume) radiative waste ... you are willing to do that to give people a "save the planet" option that gets them on board--i.e. doesn't involve turning them into serfs on the organic pig farm ... or soylent green.

    It's true that in the minds of some enviros the nuke thing is also an apocalyptic nightmare of "poisoned earth". But if that's their level of scientific literacy and basic numeracy ... why should we pay any attention to their opinion about the far more complex issue of global warming?

    No, in fact, the nuclear energy position is a very clear indicator. We have this technology that while it requires some serious management and safety discipline--tractable regulatory projects-- works right now and emits zero CO2. And--excepting a few serious global warming scientists on board--the vast apparatus of global warming politicians, activists, scribblers and screechers ... do not want to use it!

    Maybe global warming as an ideology, a political movement, is about something else?

    Yes its true that if existing energy sources were guaranteeing an apocalyptic nightmare and nuclear energy were the only alternative then even if nuclear just offered just the possibility of a nightmare it would be better. But nuclear is not the only alternative now (e.g. reduction in energy use, renewable sources like wind, solar, and biomass, fossil fuels + sequestration) and possibly others that will be developed in the near term. Also, while some people may believe those nightmare predictions about CO2, many people that are worried about greenhouse gases don’t think that we’re guaranteed an apocalypse on the current trajectory but just think there’s enough evidence to warrant a return to preindustrial greenhouse gas levels.

  232. @Svigor
    "It’s much more the people who whon’t shut up about the value of manual labor or how they need their costume jewelry “assault weapons” to fight off government oppression that are morbidly obese."

    If that were so, blacks would vote GOP @90%, not Democrat.

    Obese black people have their own, separate fantasies that are more conducive to left wing politics (oppressed by white people, helpless victim of metabolism, actually beautiful but only considered ugly because of some kind of conspiracy, etc.). Although black left wing fantasies around guns and manual labor are certainly not unheard of.

  233. @ATate
    Just spent the day in York at the Jorvik Viking Festival. There were about a half dozen hen parties we saw throughout the day. To a one, they were all butt ugly. Just absolutely atrocious. British women wear more makeup than Hispanics, it’s caked on and makes them look hideous.

    Some of the most unattractive women in the world are here in the UK. They have no ass here.

    You got lucky.

    Then they open their mouths...ice pick to the eyeballs...it’s a throw up as to which is worse to hear talking between English bitches or Russian bitches.

    Gross, one and all.

    Count your blessings that it didn’t work out.

    “Some of the most unattractive women in the world are here in the UK. They have no ass here.”

    I agree: Brits are the ugliest white people on Earth. Yet your tone is oddly bitter. It reminds me of the perennial gripe of seamen: the food is lousy and there’s never enough.

    In England, all the women are butt ugly and none of them will sleep with me! I’m just ribbing you, old chap.

    I think Greta is rather cute despite her mild fetal alcohol syndromic facial features. I love that a mildly retarded sperg is the transnational face of global climate warming weather chaos crisis disruption change — even a hotel full of comedy writers couldn’t come up with something so funny and apt. I also hope she outgrows her adolescent tantruming, meets a nice young man, and makes a big bunch of carbon footprints pitter pattering about her home.

  234. Girl hits boy
    Boy hits girl who just hit him
    The sun is blacked out by brainlessly reacting white knights who saw a boy hit a girl and had to maintain cult integrity

    • Replies: @anon
    Notice how the girl assailant, and then the mob, defeat this boy by yanking him around by his backpack.
    If you are attacked and wearing a backpack, slip the backpack off immediately.
    Had the boy shed the pack and maintained his balance he could have hit the girl much harder, taking her out of the fight (notice that after being hit she gets back into the fight and hits him again).
    Without the back he also would have fought much better against the rest of the mob.
  235. @Anon
    Wikipedia has a ridiculously titled page called "Voyage of Greta Thunberg."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_Greta_Thunberg

    I like to watch sailing videos on YouTube. My favorite sub-genre is the solo sailer, especially the reckless ones who sail into gales on small monohulls on long transoceanic passages.

    But there's another sub-genre in which a couple with minimal sailing experience will exit the rat race, buy a boat, and sail the world living the "cruising" lifestyle (think RVs on the ocean), documenting everything on video and making money from Google ads and Patreon. The hotness of the female seems to determine the relative success of these videos. These couples will often sail on catamarans rather than monohulls. Cats are not as seaworthy as monohulls, but they allow for spacious and luxurious digs: full kitchen, toilets, bedrooms, salon, chart desk, etc.

    On her return trip Greta somehow got hooked up with one of these cat couples, an Australian duo, and they turned Greta's return trip into a clickbaity episode of their continuing reality-show saga, complete with a seasick Greta in the fetal position.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=frZI857axRs

    Greta somehow got hooked up with one of these cat couples

    Be their choice of pets what it may be, my hat’s off to anyone who can sail a boat across the ocean. And, grudgingly, even to someone willing to go along as a passenger.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Update: that's no "cat couple". They have a toddler. And the mom is smokin' hot.

    Never mind Greta.
  236. @The Wild Geese Howard
    There's a clip on YouTube that features Greta's mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.

    I thought she was a serious opera singer, but then I watched some of the videos available on Youtube of her and… I don’t know, she seems more like some type of Eurotrash clown (and the Eurovision thing further confirms that).

    Or, if that is what passes for serious opera today, then Western culture is in even worse shape than I thought. Poor Greta. Poor us.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDWB1eM5WFjMWb-KlZ02DWtD-cVbTZwIw

  237. Greta’s mother is a big strapping woman. Greta seems so puny.

  238. @Reg Cæsar

    She needs to be put in check.

     

    Don't worry. She's subject to the draft as of next January 3rd.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Sweden

    https://www.thelocal.se/tag/conscription

    Sweden hands out first jail terms for draft evasion since return of conscription

    No mention of how many were women. Kan några svenskar här svara på det?

    We actually had one (1) female soldier in the regiment when I did my military services in the 80s. But she was a volunteer, one of the historic trail blazers I suppose. A sturdy blonde valkyrie who grew ever sturdier from eating the same meal sizes as young men doing manual labor much of the day.

    I haven’t followed the topic at all but since the military in its current form can’t possibly have positions for everyone age 18, I think they will just select the cream of the crop for now. (Shiny LGBT and women, perhaps with some youthful-seeming migrants?) The rest might get some sort of civilian placement or, most likely, stay home.

  239. @Reg Cæsar

    Then can you explain why that blob of plastic must be the fault of wypipo?
     
    It consists primarily of used tubes of Darkie toothpaste.


    https://digitalcommons.usm.maine.edu/aas_items/1002/preview.jpg

    Not anymore. “Darkie” is now “Darlie” and the minstrel man is racially ambiguous:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSoM7KFXcAAVp6t?format=jpg&name=small

    However, in Chinese the name of the product is still 黑人 (hei ren) = Black Man Toothpaste. I guess not many black people can read Chinese so they can get away with this.

  240. @International Jew

    Greta somehow got hooked up with one of these cat couples
     
    Be their choice of pets what it may be, my hat's off to anyone who can sail a boat across the ocean. And, grudgingly, even to someone willing to go along as a passenger.

    Update: that’s no “cat couple”. They have a toddler. And the mom is smokin’ hot.

    Never mind Greta.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    https://youtu.be/emvUUIt9t6A at 14:55
    for instance.
  241. @gate666
    stop bullying a child.

    She’s 17 years old. No longer a child.

  242. @Svigor
    The same people who want me to believe their sky-is-falling scheme about the climate oscillate between denying whites are being slowly genocided/extinctified, justifying the slow genocide/extinction of whites, or cheering the slow genocide/extinction of whites.

    I'm handcuffed to the bedpost and my house is burning down around me and they're saying "fuck you, I'm keeping the keys, now give me your wallet so I can prevent my house being burned down."

    There's really no proportionate way to say, "go fuck yourself" to that.

    Until they start sh0wing as much interest in whites surviving as they do in the snowy egret or the snail darter, this planet can burn to a cinder, for all I care. I'll be oscillating between denial, justification, and celebration.

    I’m pro white and pro environment. There’s nothing contradictory there.

  243. @Steve Sailer
    People in Europe believe in global warming because their lying eyes have seen that the glaciers in the Alps have receded way up the mountainsides during their lifetimes. That seems pretty reasonable.

    The same is true in the Sierra Nevadas, although the glaciers were never more than tiny when I was a kid.

    Glaciers have been shrinking since 1850.

    in the time of the Roman Empire, the Alpine glaciers were smaller than today. And 7,000 years ago they probably weren’t around at all.

    The glaciers have shrunk down to almost nothing at least ten times since the last ice age 10,000 years ago. At the time of the Roman Empire, for example, the glacier tongue was about 300 meters higher than today. Hannibal probably never saw a single big chunk of ice when he was crossing the Alps with his army. https://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/the-coming-and-going-of-glaciers-a-new-alpine-melt-theory-a-357366.html

    When Hannibal in 218 BC with his war elephants (in winter!) crossed the Alps and invaded the Roman heartland, the alpine passes were ice-free. This was the time of the Roman climate optimum when Europe was warmer than today.

  244. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, two pre-Lenten BBC stories

    Someone's driven a car into a German carnival parade.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51619353

    Belgian carnival parade satirises those who cannot be satirised.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51612541

    "Belgian PM Sophie Wilmès said the pretend Jews in the Aalst parade "harm our values and our country's reputation".

    "The use of stereotypes stigmatising communities and groups based on their origins leads to divisions and endangers our togetherness," she said."
     
    Except the Brits, who were satirised on a Brexit float, though note the guy on the left.

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/10267/production/_111015166_aalstbrexitrtr23feb.jpg

    Hillary was featured in a Mardi Gras float this year.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/02/23/hillary-cameo-on-the-epstein-didnt-kill-himself-float-was-the-toast-of-mardi-gras-890276

  245. @Liza

    There’s a clip on YouTube that features Greta’s mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.
     
    I guess you are referring to some modernized, trashy production of a classic opera? It is hard to find anything else these days.

    Here's more:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMtfcP6f8eA

    She is wearing a strapless, sleeveless gown (and whore-height high heels, too) where the top keeps slipping off. So she asks a man from the audience to stand behind her and hold the top of her dress up. Such a great comedy routine...golly, whoever wrote this is a genius.

    That’s Sweden’s answer to Victor Borge?

    • Replies: @Liza
    Maybe so - in that Borge is the least funny classical music "comedian" in the world and Greta's mum is his twin in lack of quality. So help me God, I have seen plenty of Borge and I was never able to crack a smile.

    I get way more larfs from the responses to Tiny Duck's comments.
  246. @Anon
    Wikipedia has a ridiculously titled page called "Voyage of Greta Thunberg."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_Greta_Thunberg

    I like to watch sailing videos on YouTube. My favorite sub-genre is the solo sailer, especially the reckless ones who sail into gales on small monohulls on long transoceanic passages.

    But there's another sub-genre in which a couple with minimal sailing experience will exit the rat race, buy a boat, and sail the world living the "cruising" lifestyle (think RVs on the ocean), documenting everything on video and making money from Google ads and Patreon. The hotness of the female seems to determine the relative success of these videos. These couples will often sail on catamarans rather than monohulls. Cats are not as seaworthy as monohulls, but they allow for spacious and luxurious digs: full kitchen, toilets, bedrooms, salon, chart desk, etc.

    On her return trip Greta somehow got hooked up with one of these cat couples, an Australian duo, and they turned Greta's return trip into a clickbaity episode of their continuing reality-show saga, complete with a seasick Greta in the fetal position.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=frZI857axRs

    I like to watch sailing videos on YouTube. My favorite sub-genre is the solo sailer, especially the reckless ones who sail into gales on small monohulls on long transoceanic passages.

    I used to collect such books 30 years ago. Dove was just the start.

  247. @Reg Cæsar

    Nah, the tubes are metal. Only the caps are plastic.
     
    How would you know that?


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    How would you know that?

    A-You can see from the pattern of dents in the tube that it’s metal

    B – I have a friend who has a tube and it’s metal

  248. @Guy De Champlagne
    It's an obvious metaphor in the sense that noone thinks you can stand on it like you can an island or that it is completely contiguous like an island is. But reading up on it, you're right that people are being misled as to how noticeable and substantial it is.

    Greta Thurnberg doesn't talk much about this issue at all since her thing is greenhouse gases, and not ocean waste. Those are two different things, something that a lot of people don't seem to be able to understand.

    And yes environmentalism is dominated by leftists and has all sorts of left wing assumptions and biases. That's why right wingers should become more involved but they use that fact to justify doing the opposite and making the problem worse.

    … that noone thinks…

    No one

  249. @Reg Cæsar
    That's Sweden's answer to Victor Borge?



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3Z1HnNvD0

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxRxgR3DGyU

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-UGaIb7Nbgk

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Z2mrpqtRo

    Maybe so – in that Borge is the least funny classical music “comedian” in the world and Greta’s mum is his twin in lack of quality. So help me God, I have seen plenty of Borge and I was never able to crack a smile.

    I get way more larfs from the responses to Tiny Duck’s comments.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I have seen plenty of Borge and I was never able to crack a smile.
     
    I've known many Danes, here and abroad. Borge captured their sense of humor far better than Jerry Lewis did ours.


    His life was saved by fans at the Soviet embassy. (His parents were from Moscow, so I assume he also spoke Russian.) The Brits loved him, and they're the world champions of humor:


    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2000/dec/27/guardianobituaries


    (The Guardian was using words like "manageress" as late as 2000?)
  250. @Warner
    I listened to this recently and thought it was a great analysis of where Greta's mania came from. Her mother lays it out if you can read between the lines:

    https://youtu.be/hP8BqnFjSOw?t=121

    Yes. Jones lays it out quite well:
    1) the Swedes changed how they taught sex ed in school from realistic videos to cartoons
    2) moms aren’t home to explain the new, weird cartoon sex Ed videos
    3) huge explosion of 12 yr old girls not eating at the same time…

  251. @Ali Choudhury
    The poor, troubled child. Hope she finds some tranquility. Being young, mentally fragile and a public figure are a toxic combination.

    No child is poor or troubled when they get raped and ritually humiliated by a gang of Muslims. The best outcome is something that would shock globalists into paralysis.

  252. @Jack D
    A lot of what goes on in China is based on the fact that they have a (corrupt) Fascist government and don't trust their own people (for good reason). So private security guards are illegal. Everything within the state, nothing without the state, as the old Fascist motto goes. If you want a security guard for your business, you have to hire one from the "militia" (this is also a source of revenue for local government). But they don't want a lot of ill trained people carrying guns around so the militia are unarmed. In practice, this means you get some joker to stand at your building's gate but instead of paying him minimum wage you have to hire him from local government at a markup.

    But generally speaking you are correct that on a day to day basis government is a lot less heavy handed than in America. In the US if you have a business there are all sorts of "inspectors" constantly coming around to fine and harass you over safety violations, labor law violations, racial discrimination, environmental laws, etc., etc., etc. and you don't get that in China. There are not armies of nasty black ladies paid to make your life miserable. On the other hand, the local government probably has equity in the local factory or even owns it outright - it is not in their economic interest to harass you constantly and treat you as the enemy.

    BTW, strongly recommend watching the documentary "American Factory" about a Chinese glass making billionaire who converts an ex-GM factory in Ohio into an auto glass factory. It's not just government that's the problem in the US - it's the workforce, especially one that was trained by the UAW to regard their employer as the enemy and your job as an opportunity to do as little work as possible.

    There are not a lot of beat cops because there is not a lot of violent crime. The Chinese would like to get the best of you in some negotiated business transaction - sell you a fake watch or something. Just grabbing your purse and running off is not sporting - no challenge in it. And if they catch you, there is a long list of crimes for which the death penalty applies and they actually execute people so there is a strong deterrent effect.

    Once you forget all about the idea of China as a "Communist" country and think of it as a kind of Mafia state then it all makes sense. The Mafia is not anti-business. They don't hate it when you are successful - they just want a "taste" of the action. Bernie type socialists are not happy until everyone is equally poor and miserable.

    I've actually had some pretty good croissant in Shanghai. There are chains that specialize in French pastry. But their traditional pastries kind of suck to Western taste buds - bean paste is not my idea of a tasty filling.

    Great comment, Jack. You describe the difference very well. I disagree with one part – there is plenty of petty crime and even serious crime. It just doesn’t get nearly as violent. In Canton (some call it Guangzhou) the city banned motorcycles because too many guys were riding by women and grabbing their purses, often causing serious injuries as they rode off with them still “attached”.

    There are burglar bars all over, and not just on 1st stories, as Chinese crooks are not your dumb ghetto thugs. They have a lot of tricks. These same burglar bars are a good example of one of your other points though. There is no OSHA, and I saw lots of places in which the small-time manufacturers of the burglar bars were tack-welding them out on the wide sidewalk, running out of room inside! I just had to step around or even through them. There were no complaints by anybody, and that’s how stuff gets done.

    It may have eased up due to the ending of the 1-child policy, but little boys would get snatched and kidnapped on trains. Moms and Dads do not let go of the children as parents do here. They seem to worry a lot about the snatching of their children, and no one seems to trust anyone who isn’t family or in that guanxi with them.

    It’s not all good, but the high-level violence from certain types here in our big cities is just not present.

    Lastly, on the baking, there is that steamed bread, which is not bad when you get used to it, but most families don’t have ovens, not due to cost, but due to the culture. Maybe that Shanghai stuff was made because there are loads of foreigners there, but good baking is just not a part of Chinese culture.

    Thanks for the interesting reply, Jack.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Fuel was traditionally in short supply in China (they cut down their virgin forests long ago) so the primary method of home cooking was based on techniques that don't require a lot of fuel. A fire for a stir fry in a wok is very hot but only lasts for a few minutes - the kind of fire that you get from burning a few twigs. You can put some water in the bottom of the wok and a several layers of steamer baskets on top and get enough steam to steam a bunch of dumplings or buns. A European brick oven required a whole bunch of wood to heat up - big logs, not twigs.

    In the rare cases when they did roast food (roast duck and other meats), this was never done at home - it would be done by a specialist who could use the same fire to roast a bunch of ducks. In short it was never a Chinese custom to have an oven in the home and there was little tradition of eating oven baked breads or pastries.
  253. @Alden
    That’s true Hunter’s success comes from being sin of a long term senator and VP. What’s her name Spielberg is very lucky her parents are so old. Dad has at most about 15 years. So Ms Spielberg will inherit before she’s 40.

    I’ve always wondered why regular actors are called actors but porn actors are called stars.

    Adopting a child really is a gamble isn’t it?

    It is a gamble, but a less costly one for the wealthy. By which I mean that

    1) the wealthy can afford to get more thoroughly screened private-placement adoptions, while the non-wealthy get whatever the state adoption agency has in inventory (typically the kids no one else wants), and

    2) just because they are adopting a POC kid to virtue-signal with doesn’t mean they actually have to spend much time with their signalling props. Once the kid is out of the cute years, they typically pack them off to some privileged boarding school, which however expensive is a trivial cost to multimillionaires. As far as I can tell, this was the Spielberg’s kid’s history.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Was she sent to boarding school? If she was screened it was a failure.
  254. @AnotherDad


    As for real estate, even people that think markets are magic don’t think markets can say much about the future past ~20 years from now because of the present discount of future earnings ...

     

    As for the beach property indicator, you make a good case. Both the discount rate and the "where's the beach going to be" make assessing real belief there very difficult.

    Nonetheless, i think it's fair to say that with today's (QE age) discount rates it's pretty clear rich people don't believe global warming is going to change everything ... real soon. They'll be seriously underwater if they end up underwater.

    But your nuclear power take:


    As for nuclear energy, one is perfectly allowed to think that greenhouse gas emissions and nuclear energy are both bad things. Not to mention that the kind of breakneck nuclear expansion needed to replace a significant portion of current carbon emitting sources of energy in a timely manner would itself cause new safety issues and, by many accounts, would be impossible due to shortages in highly specialized materials and expertise.
     
    does not wash.

    Sure most enviros think nukes have kooties.

    But if global warming is the existential crisis , the crisis that will absolutely sink humanity, the planet, then even if you believe you'll have some radiactive sites, and some (it's a small volume) radiative waste ... you are willing to do that to give people a "save the planet" option that gets them on board--i.e. doesn't involve turning them into serfs on the organic pig farm ... or soylent green.

    It's true that in the minds of some enviros the nuke thing is also an apocalyptic nightmare of "poisoned earth". But if that's their level of scientific literacy and basic numeracy ... why should we pay any attention to their opinion about the far more complex issue of global warming?

    No, in fact, the nuclear energy position is a very clear indicator. We have this technology that while it requires some serious management and safety discipline--tractable regulatory projects-- works right now and emits zero CO2. And--excepting a few serious global warming scientists on board--the vast apparatus of global warming politicians, activists, scribblers and screechers ... do not want to use it!

    Maybe global warming as an ideology, a political movement, is about something else?

    nuclear energy position is a very clear indicator. We have this technology that while it requires some serious management and safety discipline–tractable regulatory projects– works right now and emits zero CO2

    Nuclear isn’t CO2 zero emission. A lot is produced in concrete use, metal refining for reactors, fuel mining and transport, and decommissioning.

    Nevertheless, I support nuclear, especially prioritizing thorium reactor R&D because it would be comparably safer and the fuel is more abundant versus uranium power production. Also, we should have a standardized design and maybe build large facilities in desert or wastelands far from population centers and use low-loss direct current power lines to get the electricity to them.

  255. @Dr. Jim
    I think the null hypothesis complaint is best stated as follows: "Global warming compared to what?"

    Is the null hypothesis that the climate of Earth (if there is such a thing and it is measurable) invariant?

    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?

    Is the null hypothesis that the climate of Earth (if there is such a thing and it is measurable) invariant?

    And if it is NOT invariant (which paleoclimatology and many other sciences affirm), then what is different about current variations (to the extent that they exist) to justify radical social engineering?

    It’s not just if it varies, but how quickly it naturally does. If change happened much more gradually over earth history, then highly accelerated change is a new kind of problem to be facing. If a car in front of you puts on the brakes and you’re following at a safe distance, you can put on brakes, change velocity relatively slowly, and avoid harm. However, if you hit a heavy object at speed then the sudden change in velocity can do a lot of damage to the vehicle and passengers.

  256. @Liza
    Maybe so - in that Borge is the least funny classical music "comedian" in the world and Greta's mum is his twin in lack of quality. So help me God, I have seen plenty of Borge and I was never able to crack a smile.

    I get way more larfs from the responses to Tiny Duck's comments.

    I have seen plenty of Borge and I was never able to crack a smile.

    I’ve known many Danes, here and abroad. Borge captured their sense of humor far better than Jerry Lewis did ours.

    His life was saved by fans at the Soviet embassy. (His parents were from Moscow, so I assume he also spoke Russian.) The Brits loved him, and they’re the world champions of humor:

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2000/dec/27/guardianobituaries

    (The Guardian was using words like “manageress” as late as 2000?)

  257. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Girl hits boy
    Boy hits girl who just hit him
    The sun is blacked out by brainlessly reacting white knights who saw a boy hit a girl and had to maintain cult integrity
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1231029749167857672

    Notice how the girl assailant, and then the mob, defeat this boy by yanking him around by his backpack.
    If you are attacked and wearing a backpack, slip the backpack off immediately.
    Had the boy shed the pack and maintained his balance he could have hit the girl much harder, taking her out of the fight (notice that after being hit she gets back into the fight and hits him again).
    Without the back he also would have fought much better against the rest of the mob.

    • Replies: @anon
    Dude, it's obviously at a high school. That's a slap fight, nobody throws a real punch. At the end of the vid an assistant principal is leading him away, surely to an office where he will be at best suspended and maybe arrested.

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He's gonna be in the wrong however it ends.
  258. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Greta Thunberg: the face of rage. Her expressions of rage and angst are terrifying. Her anger and her pain are tangible. It’s not normal for someone so young to be so bitter and spiteful.

    “You have stolen my childhood and my dreams.”

    It’s almost like she is talking about someone.

    • Agree: West Reanimator
    • Replies: @anon
    “You have stolen my childhood and my dreams.”
    It’s almost like she is talking about someone.


    Lol, got that for sure. I like Greta's grumble better this way...metal. Death metal!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwrgS6EKW-0
  259. anon[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Notice how the girl assailant, and then the mob, defeat this boy by yanking him around by his backpack.
    If you are attacked and wearing a backpack, slip the backpack off immediately.
    Had the boy shed the pack and maintained his balance he could have hit the girl much harder, taking her out of the fight (notice that after being hit she gets back into the fight and hits him again).
    Without the back he also would have fought much better against the rest of the mob.

    Dude, it’s obviously at a high school. That’s a slap fight, nobody throws a real punch. At the end of the vid an assistant principal is leading him away, surely to an office where he will be at best suspended and maybe arrested.

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.
     
    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn't hit a girl back. If he tried, he'd be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it's lose-lose, but that's not new, it's always been that way.

    What's new is the corrupt régime that preaches equality to these poor kids, but doesn't believe in it for one moment.

    Don't blame the fish who swim in a sea that you poisoned.

    For years now, the military has been trying to break male soldiers' natural instinct to protect their female comrades. That's perversion by definition, and those who run the system belong on the sex offender registry.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.
     
    His best option was to walk away, even though that would lead to mass teasing for the rest of his HS career.

    Another strategic option would be to say something nasty to get under her skin, turtle and take her physical abuse until the adults arrived, then hope that she receives more severe punishment due to using physical violence to respond to his words.

    Obviously unrealistic because most teens simply don't think that far ahead.
  260. @Anon
    OT

    If anyone is running out of reading material here at Unz, head on over to The Guardian, where the writer seems unaware that she is dating a pre-tranny.

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f87d356d42c534d96d506ff0f649ebf1e044772d/0_472_4032_2419/master/4032.jpg


    My boyfriend’s wedding dress unveiled my own shortcomings over masculinity
    by Emily Halnon

    We were at Goodwill searching for dresses to wear during the annual Mother’s Day Climb up Mount St Helens in which both men and women sport flowing garments in honor of female mountaineers and mothers everywhere.

    This was not the first time I’d found myself a little uncomfortable with the sight of Ian in women’s wear. It’s not an unusual sight to spot him sporting a skirt, dress, or sarong at a party, picnic, or trailhead. He uses his unconventional apparel as a display of his individuality and a reflection of his fondness for fun.

    My boyfriend’s wedding dress pushed me to perform a scrupulous inventory of my deepest ideas about masculinity and helped me identify my shortfalls as a woman who wants to help rewrite gender norms. As I went through this exercise, I chatted with a handful of girlfriends about it, who could all identify their own small hang-ups with masculinity: their need for men who are bigger and taller than they are, or who are better than them at sports, or who don’t cry in front of them.

    As we interrogated our feelings about masculinity, we recognized gaps between our ideals and reality. I’m quick to blame men for perpetuating toxic behavior, but in this case, I, the woman, was part of the problem.
     

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/feb/24/my-boyfriend-wedding-dress-unveiled-shortcomings-masculinity

    I was always afraid to end up a dork or a boor while trying to impress people with my intellect. I see others have no such fears…

  261. … that noone thinks…

    No one

    Whatever Noone thinks, he’s into something good. He also looks like Peter Brimelow these days.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you for this classic, Reg, that I'd almost forgotten about! Yes, he looks like Peter Brimelow on B&W TV, sure enough. Also, I appreciate your additions to the stutter-rock genre the other day. It's time for someone to come out with a compilation LP and advertise it on that newfangled color TV.

    Whatever Mr. Noone, or Herman himself, for that matter, thinks, NOBODY, but no body, cares what Noonan thinks. I don't know why Mr. Reagan, a practiced writer and polished speaker, couldn't have written his own material for all of his speeches. Peggy Noonan was nothing but a wonky bimbo, a "wimbo", if I may.
  262. @Anonymous
    Greta Thunberg: the face of rage. Her expressions of rage and angst are terrifying. Her anger and her pain are tangible. It's not normal for someone so young to be so bitter and spiteful.

    "You have stolen my childhood and my dreams."

    It's almost like she is talking about someone. https://youtu.be/xVlRompc1yE

    “You have stolen my childhood and my dreams.”
    It’s almost like she is talking about someone.

    Lol, got that for sure. I like Greta’s grumble better this way…metal. Death metal!

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  263. @anon
    Dude, it's obviously at a high school. That's a slap fight, nobody throws a real punch. At the end of the vid an assistant principal is leading him away, surely to an office where he will be at best suspended and maybe arrested.

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He's gonna be in the wrong however it ends.

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.

    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn’t hit a girl back. If he tried, he’d be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it’s lose-lose, but that’s not new, it’s always been that way.

    What’s new is the corrupt régime that preaches equality to these poor kids, but doesn’t believe in it for one moment.

    Don’t blame the fish who swim in a sea that you poisoned.

    For years now, the military has been trying to break male soldiers’ natural instinct to protect their female comrades. That’s perversion by definition, and those who run the system belong on the sex offender registry.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn’t hit a girl back. If he tried, he’d be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it’s lose-lose, but that’s not new, it’s always been that way.
     
    That was how it was, sure enough. past tense.

    There was a corollary, if she had a brother or a boyfriend, he was "responsible" for her, and it was expected that she'd be corrected in private or he would be in public.

    If it got bad enough, when there were no witnesses, somebody would do something.


    At the junior high there was this bulldyke in band class, in the drum line that would hit the guys in the front row with a rock or nut or something with a rubber band when no one was looking. It went on for quite a while and everyone knew who was doing it. After a while, a couple of guys wearing cover smocks and ski masks grabbed her, taped her mouth over, pulled her into the instrument storage room, tied her up and took a belt to her bare ass. Nothing sexual, just a good old daddy-whomping. They split and ditched the disguise. The band director found her in there a little later and they had this big inquisition but no one talked, no one. So they "punished us all" by making us sit there and not play music for two or three days. We just used it as a study hall. I knew who did it and so did about half of the class but no one, male or female said squat. Her parents put her in Catholic school and she later joined the navy and retired out an E-8 and out of the closet lesbian. One of the guys who did it later became an assistant DA and the other a Marine and state trooper.

    , @Alden
    I thought the army girls are supposed to just tag along and stay out of the way. Does anyone know if the women in combat actually do anything combatish? I believe they’re around just to satisfy the feminazis.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard

    What’s new is the corrupt régime that preaches equality to these poor kids, but doesn’t believe in it for one moment.
     
    My male friends and I didn't know what to think when we saw the opening to the Way of the Gun, with the always lovely and demure Sarah Silverman, back in the innocent days of summer 2000:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w6UUkkOmgo
    , @J.Ross
    No, a girl who gets well out of line (say, by starting a fight) gets slapped. The concession to her weakness is slapping with an open hand and not full force punching with a closed fist. The idea that violence in reaction is the same as violence in initiation is new.
  264. During the ongoing Crisis of Whiteness, Greta is the Whitest person in the world.

    Correct. Climate activism is the whitest thing in the world. There’s hardly a non-white person on the planet who actually believes in anthropogenic global warming, or cares about it one way or the other.

    The ultimate warning sign of toxic whiteness is concern about climate change. It’s the very symbol of white supremacism. Environmentalism as a whole is hideously white. I’m surprised that it’s still tolerated.

    And on a related topic, apart from those with particular religious beliefs are there any non-white vegans? Veganism is worryingly white as well.

  265. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.
     
    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn't hit a girl back. If he tried, he'd be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it's lose-lose, but that's not new, it's always been that way.

    What's new is the corrupt régime that preaches equality to these poor kids, but doesn't believe in it for one moment.

    Don't blame the fish who swim in a sea that you poisoned.

    For years now, the military has been trying to break male soldiers' natural instinct to protect their female comrades. That's perversion by definition, and those who run the system belong on the sex offender registry.

    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn’t hit a girl back. If he tried, he’d be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it’s lose-lose, but that’s not new, it’s always been that way.

    That was how it was, sure enough. past tense.

    There was a corollary, if she had a brother or a boyfriend, he was “responsible” for her, and it was expected that she’d be corrected in private or he would be in public.

    If it got bad enough, when there were no witnesses, somebody would do something.

    At the junior high there was this bulldyke in band class, in the drum line that would hit the guys in the front row with a rock or nut or something with a rubber band when no one was looking. It went on for quite a while and everyone knew who was doing it. After a while, a couple of guys wearing cover smocks and ski masks grabbed her, taped her mouth over, pulled her into the instrument storage room, tied her up and took a belt to her bare ass. Nothing sexual, just a good old daddy-whomping. They split and ditched the disguise. The band director found her in there a little later and they had this big inquisition but no one talked, no one. So they “punished us all” by making us sit there and not play music for two or three days. We just used it as a study hall. I knew who did it and so did about half of the class but no one, male or female said squat. Her parents put her in Catholic school and she later joined the navy and retired out an E-8 and out of the closet lesbian. One of the guys who did it later became an assistant DA and the other a Marine and state trooper.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    https://youtu.be/rxObkfSqmQM
  266. Bad taste, kitsch, idiotic tastelessness .. now rule the modern world.
    Just another unrelated example:

  267. I’ve always thought the Republicans should become climate alarmists as well. After considerable study, they can conclude that the only way to effectively combat global warming is to implement massive tax cuts and substantially increase the military budget.

  268. @Reg Cæsar


    … that noone thinks…

     

    No one
     
    Whatever Noone thinks, he's into something good. He also looks like Peter Brimelow these days.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YRvcIj3XzU8

    Thank you for this classic, Reg, that I’d almost forgotten about! Yes, he looks like Peter Brimelow on B&W TV, sure enough. Also, I appreciate your additions to the stutter-rock genre the other day. It’s time for someone to come out with a compilation LP and advertise it on that newfangled color TV.

    Whatever Mr. Noone, or Herman himself, for that matter, thinks, NOBODY, but no body, cares what Noonan thinks. I don’t know why Mr. Reagan, a practiced writer and polished speaker, couldn’t have written his own material for all of his speeches. Peggy Noonan was nothing but a wonky bimbo, a “wimbo”, if I may.

  269. Peggy Noonan was nothing but a wonky bimbo, a “wimbo”, if I may.

    She writes with style, though, and that’s rare today. Reagan was too lazy to write speeches– a feature, not a bug. His speechwriters all said he’d make minor corrections, and they always improved the result.

  270. @Liza

    There’s a clip on YouTube that features Greta’s mom doing an opera scene that basically looks like softcore porn.
     
    I guess you are referring to some modernized, trashy production of a classic opera? It is hard to find anything else these days.

    Here's more:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMtfcP6f8eA

    She is wearing a strapless, sleeveless gown (and whore-height high heels, too) where the top keeps slipping off. So she asks a man from the audience to stand behind her and hold the top of her dress up. Such a great comedy routine...golly, whoever wrote this is a genius.

    I watched. It’s totally vulgar. It’s something out of SNL or a modern 3 Stooges show. Maybe she wants to make Opera vulgar for the masses.

    • Thanks: Liza
  271. @Reg Cæsar

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.
     
    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn't hit a girl back. If he tried, he'd be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it's lose-lose, but that's not new, it's always been that way.

    What's new is the corrupt régime that preaches equality to these poor kids, but doesn't believe in it for one moment.

    Don't blame the fish who swim in a sea that you poisoned.

    For years now, the military has been trying to break male soldiers' natural instinct to protect their female comrades. That's perversion by definition, and those who run the system belong on the sex offender registry.

    I thought the army girls are supposed to just tag along and stay out of the way. Does anyone know if the women in combat actually do anything combatish? I believe they’re around just to satisfy the feminazis.

  272. @Steve Sailer
    Greta's mom wasn't a major opera singer, but she played the title role in "Carmen" for the Royal Stockholm Opera and was Rosina in "Barber of Seville." And she represented Sweden in the 2009 Eurovision contest, which is quite high profile.

    Something to keep in mind is that opera singers' careers go on and on, so it's not like Mom would hit 40 and be naturally forced into retirement. Opera singers often hit their peaks around 50 or so. So Greta had another decade or more of her mother being a diva to look forward to when she threw her snit fit.

    Maybe Greta was just jealous. She doesn’t look like either of her parents. Maybe she’s a changling.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    She starved herself, apparently, for weeks on end.

    Rapidly losing weight and only eating small amounts of rice, avocado and gnocchi, Thunberg had lost over 20 pounds from her small frame, and could no longer climb stairs.

    “After two months of not eating Greta has lost almost 10kg, which is a lot when you are rather small to begin with,” writes Ernman, according to an extract published by the British newspaper. “Her body temperature is low and her pulse and blood pressure clearly indicate signs of starvation...”
     
    She also was "hiding in the bathroom to cry," demonstrating she was already emotionally disturbed before she did herself further, likely permanent damage from not eating.
  273. @International Jew
    Update: that's no "cat couple". They have a toddler. And the mom is smokin' hot.

    Never mind Greta.

    at 14:55
    for instance.

  274. @Achmed E. Newman
    Great comment, Jack. You describe the difference very well. I disagree with one part - there is plenty of petty crime and even serious crime. It just doesn't get nearly as violent. In Canton (some call it Guangzhou) the city banned motorcycles because too many guys were riding by women and grabbing their purses, often causing serious injuries as they rode off with them still "attached".

    There are burglar bars all over, and not just on 1st stories, as Chinese crooks are not your dumb ghetto thugs. They have a lot of tricks. These same burglar bars are a good example of one of your other points though. There is no OSHA, and I saw lots of places in which the small-time manufacturers of the burglar bars were tack-welding them out on the wide sidewalk, running out of room inside! I just had to step around or even through them. There were no complaints by anybody, and that's how stuff gets done.

    It may have eased up due to the ending of the 1-child policy, but little boys would get snatched and kidnapped on trains. Moms and Dads do not let go of the children as parents do here. They seem to worry a lot about the snatching of their children, and no one seems to trust anyone who isn't family or in that guanxi with them.

    It's not all good, but the high-level violence from certain types here in our big cities is just not present.

    Lastly, on the baking, there is that steamed bread, which is not bad when you get used to it, but most families don't have ovens, not due to cost, but due to the culture. Maybe that Shanghai stuff was made because there are loads of foreigners there, but good baking is just not a part of Chinese culture.

    Thanks for the interesting reply, Jack.

    Fuel was traditionally in short supply in China (they cut down their virgin forests long ago) so the primary method of home cooking was based on techniques that don’t require a lot of fuel. A fire for a stir fry in a wok is very hot but only lasts for a few minutes – the kind of fire that you get from burning a few twigs. You can put some water in the bottom of the wok and a several layers of steamer baskets on top and get enough steam to steam a bunch of dumplings or buns. A European brick oven required a whole bunch of wood to heat up – big logs, not twigs.

    In the rare cases when they did roast food (roast duck and other meats), this was never done at home – it would be done by a specialist who could use the same fire to roast a bunch of ducks. In short it was never a Chinese custom to have an oven in the home and there was little tradition of eating oven baked breads or pastries.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yep, that's pretty much it. On the lack of big forests, this extends to paper products too. It may have changed, but when I was there even the thinnest napkins were charged for at a restaurant. People do not waste paper over there.

    Right now, the Chinese burn a lot of coal for cooking and heating their homes. That does not help with the air pollution one bit!
  275. @Jack D
    Fuel was traditionally in short supply in China (they cut down their virgin forests long ago) so the primary method of home cooking was based on techniques that don't require a lot of fuel. A fire for a stir fry in a wok is very hot but only lasts for a few minutes - the kind of fire that you get from burning a few twigs. You can put some water in the bottom of the wok and a several layers of steamer baskets on top and get enough steam to steam a bunch of dumplings or buns. A European brick oven required a whole bunch of wood to heat up - big logs, not twigs.

    In the rare cases when they did roast food (roast duck and other meats), this was never done at home - it would be done by a specialist who could use the same fire to roast a bunch of ducks. In short it was never a Chinese custom to have an oven in the home and there was little tradition of eating oven baked breads or pastries.

    Yep, that’s pretty much it. On the lack of big forests, this extends to paper products too. It may have changed, but when I was there even the thinnest napkins were charged for at a restaurant. People do not waste paper over there.

    Right now, the Chinese burn a lot of coal for cooking and heating their homes. That does not help with the air pollution one bit!

  276. @anon
    Dude, it's obviously at a high school. That's a slap fight, nobody throws a real punch. At the end of the vid an assistant principal is leading him away, surely to an office where he will be at best suspended and maybe arrested.

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He's gonna be in the wrong however it ends.

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.

    His best option was to walk away, even though that would lead to mass teasing for the rest of his HS career.

    Another strategic option would be to say something nasty to get under her skin, turtle and take her physical abuse until the adults arrived, then hope that she receives more severe punishment due to using physical violence to respond to his words.

    Obviously unrealistic because most teens simply don’t think that far ahead.

  277. @Reg Cæsar

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.
     
    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn't hit a girl back. If he tried, he'd be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it's lose-lose, but that's not new, it's always been that way.

    What's new is the corrupt régime that preaches equality to these poor kids, but doesn't believe in it for one moment.

    Don't blame the fish who swim in a sea that you poisoned.

    For years now, the military has been trying to break male soldiers' natural instinct to protect their female comrades. That's perversion by definition, and those who run the system belong on the sex offender registry.

    What’s new is the corrupt régime that preaches equality to these poor kids, but doesn’t believe in it for one moment.

    My male friends and I didn’t know what to think when we saw the opening to the Way of the Gun, with the always lovely and demure Sarah Silverman, back in the innocent days of summer 2000:

  278. @Alden
    Maybe Greta was just jealous. She doesn’t look like either of her parents. Maybe she’s a changling.

    She starved herself, apparently, for weeks on end.

    Rapidly losing weight and only eating small amounts of rice, avocado and gnocchi, Thunberg had lost over 20 pounds from her small frame, and could no longer climb stairs.

    “After two months of not eating Greta has lost almost 10kg, which is a lot when you are rather small to begin with,” writes Ernman, according to an extract published by the British newspaper. “Her body temperature is low and her pulse and blood pressure clearly indicate signs of starvation…”

    She also was “hiding in the bathroom to cry,” demonstrating she was already emotionally disturbed before she did herself further, likely permanent damage from not eating.

  279. @Reg Cæsar

    Your advice is good, but not for dudes in high school. This vid shows the lose-lose, no-win situation when a high school girl hits a guy. He’s gonna be in the wrong however it ends.
     
    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn't hit a girl back. If he tried, he'd be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it's lose-lose, but that's not new, it's always been that way.

    What's new is the corrupt régime that preaches equality to these poor kids, but doesn't believe in it for one moment.

    Don't blame the fish who swim in a sea that you poisoned.

    For years now, the military has been trying to break male soldiers' natural instinct to protect their female comrades. That's perversion by definition, and those who run the system belong on the sex offender registry.

    No, a girl who gets well out of line (say, by starting a fight) gets slapped. The concession to her weakness is slapping with an open hand and not full force punching with a closed fist. The idea that violence in reaction is the same as violence in initiation is new.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    https://i.imgflip.com/j3pn4.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zm1cMRR-7k
  280. @Anonymous

    Playground rules once were that not only does a boy not hit a girl, he doesn’t hit a girl back. If he tried, he’d be restrained for his own good as much as hers. As you said, it’s lose-lose, but that’s not new, it’s always been that way.
     
    That was how it was, sure enough. past tense.

    There was a corollary, if she had a brother or a boyfriend, he was "responsible" for her, and it was expected that she'd be corrected in private or he would be in public.

    If it got bad enough, when there were no witnesses, somebody would do something.


    At the junior high there was this bulldyke in band class, in the drum line that would hit the guys in the front row with a rock or nut or something with a rubber band when no one was looking. It went on for quite a while and everyone knew who was doing it. After a while, a couple of guys wearing cover smocks and ski masks grabbed her, taped her mouth over, pulled her into the instrument storage room, tied her up and took a belt to her bare ass. Nothing sexual, just a good old daddy-whomping. They split and ditched the disguise. The band director found her in there a little later and they had this big inquisition but no one talked, no one. So they "punished us all" by making us sit there and not play music for two or three days. We just used it as a study hall. I knew who did it and so did about half of the class but no one, male or female said squat. Her parents put her in Catholic school and she later joined the navy and retired out an E-8 and out of the closet lesbian. One of the guys who did it later became an assistant DA and the other a Marine and state trooper.

  281. @J.Ross
    No, a girl who gets well out of line (say, by starting a fight) gets slapped. The concession to her weakness is slapping with an open hand and not full force punching with a closed fist. The idea that violence in reaction is the same as violence in initiation is new.

  282. @Anonymous
    She would be NOTHING without the powers behind her.

    When someone pelts you with beans, don't look at the beans. Look at the person.

    ABSOLUTELY AGREE Anon 425…

    Once the little ranting narcissist was fated by at the flakes at Glastonbury for Gangsters this was a dead cert. Notice how none of them suggested wearing splendid clothing made from natural animal fibres…think mohair and merino, and turning down those suffocating hot room warmers.

  283. @Sean
    They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5'4'' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    https://www.3quarksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2901-288x360.jpg

    I'd say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad's mom was very short.

    her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic,

    As I pointed out previously, she bears an uncanny resemblance to the daughter from the “Pop-up Book of Gnomes” I had as a child…

    The book is available, new, from Amazon for only $2,112.37, which is a steal considering the cost of N95 masks these days: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0810909707/ref=tmm_hrd_new_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=&sr=

  284. @Sean
    They do have a race of little people in Sweden. Facially she takes after her shortish father who appears from photos to have traces of Saami ancestry (Lapp), and admits to being named for Arrhenius, so him being a great-great-grandparent seems likely. She seems like a poster child for the dangers of associative mating for thespian-artistic tendencies more than anything.

    With 5'4'' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta looks unusually short for a woman, but in proportion.

    https://www.3quarksdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2901-288x360.jpg

    I'd say Greta is less than one inch shorter that Ariana Grande. Half of girls are fully grown by 16. Anorexia would have delayed the end of growth . She looked well fed when she was a child so I think her childlike features and height is almost entirely genetic, I would bet her dad's mom was very short.

    Her mother looks about 5’10. In the family pictures the Dad doesn’t look short. Strict veganism and anorexia age 8-12 stunts growth. There’s a few rare digestive diseases like celiac. People with those diseases don’t get enough nourishment and if they grow up grow up tiny.

  285. @Almost Missouri
    It is a gamble, but a less costly one for the wealthy. By which I mean that

    1) the wealthy can afford to get more thoroughly screened private-placement adoptions, while the non-wealthy get whatever the state adoption agency has in inventory (typically the kids no one else wants), and

    2) just because they are adopting a POC kid to virtue-signal with doesn't mean they actually have to spend much time with their signalling props. Once the kid is out of the cute years, they typically pack them off to some privileged boarding school, which however expensive is a trivial cost to multimillionaires. As far as I can tell, this was the Spielberg's kid's history.

    Was she sent to boarding school? If she was screened it was a failure.

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