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From the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:

Gov. Dayton: Justine Damond shooting a tragedy, more information needed
He declined to draw parallels between it and other police shootings.
By Randy Furst Star Tribune JULY 19, 2017 — 5:12PM

In his first public comments since the shooting of Justine Damond, Gov. Mark Dayton called the death a “horrible” tragedy but said he had no additional information to draw conclusions about what happened. …

Dayton declined to draw parallels between Damond’s death on Saturday and the police shootings of Jamar Clark and Philando Castile. Both men were black.

“I’m concerned [about] any incident,” he said.

Dayton’s comments come after he was the subject of police ire following public comments made last year after the shooting of Castile.

“Would this have happened if the driver were white, if the passengers were white?” Dayton asked at the time. “I don’t think it would have. … On behalf of all decent-minded Minnesotans, we are shocked and horrified. This kind of behavior is unacceptable.”

We musk keep our priorities straight. As Governor Dayton, whose great-grandfather founded the Target store chain and whose wife is a Rockefeller, so eloquently explained in 2015:

“Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.

As I wrote a couple of years ago: How can Target sell more toilet paper without Minnesota taxpayers paying to import the surplus population of the Mad Max zones of the Horn of Africa? Think about it! Haven’t you studied demographics!

As you know, the governor swears an oath to uphold The Economy and nothing but The Economy. It’s his constitutional duty to help The Economy be all it can be. If the current B+ population of Minnesota isn’t living up to The Economy’s needs, then it’s the governor’s legal obligation to do something about the current population. Maybe it needs to be vibrantized with some A+ people from East Africa. Or maybe some F- people. Quality doesn’t matter, only quantity. The important thing is: Think of The Economy.

Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place, and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why have I never heard of this paradise before?
— Pierce Hawthorne, Community

 
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  1. Borders expose Biology, Politicians need to remove borders to obscure this inconvenient truth.

    • Replies: @e
    @jim jones

    Borders expose Biology, Politicians need to remove borders to obscure this inconvenient truth.

    I'd say just the opposite. As long as people who are very different from one another don't actually live with one another, people operate under the happy but silly assumption that all humans are the same.

    Thrown together by removing borders, they soon discover that no, they are not.

  2. B+ citizen – what a perfect description of the sort of good, middle class people you need to build a decent society! No?…

    Dayton’s unsaid implication – it’s not necessarily A+ we’re importing, hey, could be C, D, E, as long as they still shop!

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Thanet the Gannet


    B+ citizen – what a perfect description of the sort of good, middle class people you need to build a decent society! No?…
     
    Exactly. You need some genuinely smart guys to invent new stuff and move the ball forward. But B+ citizens are the bedrock that makes a society nice--prosperous, well ordered.

    Not a Minnesota guy. (Last spent any time there on Mille Lacs a few years back after an Iowa family reunion.) But I remember it as a pretty nice place back in around 1970 visiting a school friend there. Now every trip through the airport is a reminder it isn't really Minnesota anymore.

    Hopefully some Minnesotans will organize some sort of "B+ Minnesotans for retiring A+ahole Mark Dayton" and do a solid citizen B+ sort of job.

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson

    , @Anonymous
    @Thanet the Gannet

    What would be even more insane to me would be if the citizens of Minnesota elect this guy for another term.

    , @Olorin
    @Thanet the Gannet

    Help me here. You're saying there's something more important than shopping?

    What could it be?

    [thinky thinky]

    Oh, I got it--debt!

  3. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Sad but true. When I look at a country’s GDP, I am more interested in the per capita GDP. There is an incredible lack of nuance regarding quality and growth.

    Hope he still has an ownership interest in Target. They are taking a drubbing like retail in general. Plus they generated a lot of ill will by their politically progressive bathroom policy and are the subject of boycotts.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @anon

    Plutocrats like Mark Dayton don't care about GDP per capita. The higher it is, the less their share of the pie. But a high GDP with more consumers benefits those like him who have loads of money and assets and own real estate. It doesn't matter to him that middle class taxpayers are footing the bill of the Ponzi scheme of importing more and more people who contribute nothing to productivity. When the system crashes down he'll be dead or retired in Bermuda, so he doesn't care.
    The problem is, people like Mark Dayton are too stupid to make the economy grow other than by immigration, that is, importing consumers. Mark Dayton is living proof of regression to the mean. He's just not as smart as his grandfather (probably the reason he's in politics), but still very wealthy. Without unfettered immigration, most of our plutocrat elite would lose a substantial part of their wealth or even go broke. "Invite the world" is basically affirmative action for mediocre rich guys like Mark Dayton. It allows them to remain safely in the top .01 %, while keeping uppity bright middle class people down.

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson, @The True and Original David

    , @scrivener3
    @anon

    absolutely. If I ever hear another politician say to get GDP growth we need more people. Who cares about GDP growth other than the owners and heads of large public companies? For them GDP growth means they have a larger top line (sales) and beat expectations and, because of irrationality in the marketplace, the value of their enterprise goes up as if they are a rapidly growing company. In actuality they are sticks in the mud but everything is going up.

  4. If Minnesota politicians had cracked down on 3M and the most racist product ever to be sold in America, Scotch Tape, maybe they could’ve headed off some of these problems before they metastasized into a goiter the size of a football hanging off of the front of the head of Lena Dunham. Her face is actually a goiter carved in the manner of a Halloween Pumpkin, right?

  5. Sid says:

    There are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota. Hillary Clinton won Minnesota by less than 44,000 votes. McMullen won around 53,000 votes and Gary Johnson won roughly 112,000 votes, just to give you a perspective.

    Granted, there weren’t enough Somalis to be absolutely decisive here, but the Democratic Party is working on that. If even a fraction of the Minnesotans who voted McMullen and Johnson in 2016 realize that Trump really isn’t going to plunge the world into nuclear war the way the mainstream media said he would, then the Democrats may very well lose Minnesota in 2020.

    But if you import enough foreign ringers, you don’t need to worry so much about Minnesotans soberly reassessing their political priorities.

    • Replies: @George
    @Sid

    Somalis managed to vote Phyllis Kahn out ending her 44 year regime. Evidence that while there are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota they are organized so they vote like 100,000-120,000 native born Americans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Kahn

    Statement by Ilhan Omar, America's #1 Somali.

    Statement from state Rep. Ilhan Omar on Justine Damond shooting

    http://www.startribune.com/statement-from-state-rep-ilhan-omar/435312913/

    Replies: @Pericles, @Wilkey, @Barnard

    , @415 reasons
    @Sid

    There's no way theres only 30,000 Somalis in all of Minnesota. I'm sure it is grossly underestimated and the real number is totally unknown.

    , @The Only Catholic Unionist
    @Sid

    No, they themselves are not, but it enhances the "margin of fraud" that Donks have in blue states. (Devoted readers will recall Norm Coleman won the Senate seat that Al Franken currently occupies, but not by the margin of fraud, so the decent people of Minnesota are now represented in the Senate by a man of whom there is a picture of him as an adult in a diaper.)

    Replies: @Sid, @anonn

    , @Ex-banker
    @Sid

    Looking on the other side, how many Minnesota voters went for Trump because they saw the impact of 25-30,000 Somalis in the state?

    Unfortunately, though, that level that drives anti-immigration voting would still have long term negative consequences.

    Replies: @Sid

  6. It’s really astonishing someone could get away with the B+ comment. Then again, Trump of all people almost won Minnesota.

  7. It’s not about expansion, it’s about survival of the current consumption model. You know it’s desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn’t have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson’s stores. They’re dead during the middle of the month. It’s only at the end and the beginning of the month they’re filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Rod1963


    Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t.
     
    I've been getting that feeling, that we're dying as a country. Our demise appears to be- as they say in economics- increasing at an increasing rate. But I think we're ready to hasten our decline even further. I think we're gearing up for a major military adventure. In the past couple of weeks there's been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    Replies: @Detective Club, @TomSchmidt, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    , @Buck Turgidson
    @Rod1963

    Maybe Steve King could slip up to MN and hold some seminars for the state's leaders on western civilization, demographics, and immigration. The MN Morons have a lot to learn.

    Replies: @Ivy

    , @Random Dude on the Internet
    @Rod1963

    That's the strategy: import more people from the third world, give them EBT cards (funded by debt and white taxpayers), and have them spend all their money, which funnels the profits into the businesses so they can donate to the next political campaigns more than the previous election cycle.

    Way back in the day I used to work at a meat department at a grocery store. When the first weekend of the month hit, we sold a lot of high end cuts of meat. Of course when they ran out of EBT money, they'd just toss the ribeyes and beef tenderloin packages on a random shelf somewhere, spoling the meat. I guess if they couldn't afford that steak, then nobody should be able to buy it and eat it.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Rod1963

    Interesting also is that gas stations take EBT cards. Well, gas stations are famous for the range of healthy, nutritious foods they sell.

    I was recently in an "asian" store (i.e. an oriental store) and noticed a sign on the wall stating that they accept EBT. I hadn't considered such a thing, but it makes sense - they are a real grocery store. In front of me in line were some mexicans (or central americans of some kind) buying produce and various staples, though they weren't using an EBT card, but rather paying in cash. Nothing strange about that, I suppose, though the times I have been in such stores, the only clientele I ever saw were asians and the odd white person once in a while.

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Rod1963

    "Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t."

    It's entropy writ large. Sure, the importation of unskilled workers will make things worse for the overall population, but it will improve things for a small segment of it. Diluted suffering and concentrated benefits is how we get things like sugar prices 3x world levels to support the Fanjuls in Florida. Then how we get high-fructose corn syrup to replace expensive sugar, then how we get an obesity epidemic when the fructose doesn't immediately raise blood glucose and end the craving for sugar.

    Replies: @Ivy

    , @Alden
    @Rod1963

    EBT cards may be why Target has installed big grocery departments offering food about 20 to 30 percent less than the supermarket a block away.

    I was in one recently and took a good look at the towels, bath mats bedspreads lamps vases and women's and children's clothes.

    They were all really bad quality, much lower than similar price Macy's and much lower price Ross. The towels were very stiff and coarse.
    The women's and children's clothes were made of coarse cheap cloth, almost like Halloween costume cloth.
    The women's section had an unusually large stock of "women's" X XX and XXX
    Sizes. X is 250 pds average height XX is 300pds and XXX is 350 to 500 pds.

    And most of the summer tops in the X section were sleeveless scoop neck. Gross, imagine those blubbery arms, backs, chests, and triple chins.

    And of course there is not one White employee in the store.

    Replies: @CCZ, @MBlanc46, @Lucas McCrudy

    , @Erik L
    @Rod1963

    First episode of "The Sopranos" Tony is telling Dr. Melfi that it's best to be in at the beginning of things and he always knew he missed that, but lately, he's getting the feeling that he came in at the end. I feel that way about America lately. I mean, it's not that America is going away. Great leading civilizations don't usually go away exactly. They just eventually settle in to something else

    , @anonymous
    @Rod1963


    Big picture. We’re dying as a country.
     
    This is just dumb, Jack Hanson needs to straighten you out!

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    , @Daniel H
    @Rod1963

    During my weekly shopping peregrination I visit around 10 stores (Lowes, Target, Walgreen, Walmart..... The only one that is always crowded, where all the checkout lines (up to 10 in this case) have at least 3-4 customers in queue is COSTCO. Walmart grocery does OK also, but not as well as COSTCO. Though I don't know why they do well at all. Their produce section is full of stale fruit and vegetables. All the other stores are eerily sparsely filled.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Rod1963


    Big picture. We’re dying as a country.
     
    No, we are not. We will have to reconfigure, but we will not die. Any corporation relying on EBT traffic will die. The stupid liberal model will be replaced. The only question is how ugly will it be?
    , @Ed
    @Rod1963

    Amazon Prime is going to allow welfare cases to subscribe at a lower rate. It's packaged as a nice, SJW endeavor but the reality is it wants to compete with Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart's business is significantly fueled by welfare.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/07/531856069/amazon-lowers-prime-membership-rate-for-low-income-customers

  8. Dearest Mr. Sailer,

    I have a cost effective plan to identify various cognitive classes among America-dwellers.

    My plan is based on the remarkable findings of the venerable J. Philippe Rushton to whom, I believe, you and your erudite audience would need no introduction.

    Since it’s scientific un-PC hatefact that penis size is inversely proportional to IQ, with the latter being the essence of the phenomenal universe, we can safely say LongSchlongers are expendable while TinyWieners are valuable.

    Based on this premise, I propose to replace SAT/GRE with a much cheaper test of fellatability.

    Yes, that’s right. FELLATABILITY.

    Basically, students requiring admission to schools and colleges would be required to be fellated by a prostitute* and his eligibility would be decided by how difficult it is for that woman**.

    There will be five grades of people based on the fellatability of their tool:

    A – Can’t even be fellated.
    B – Deepthroating not possible as toll doesn’t reach the throat.
    C – Can easily be deepthroated.
    D – Deepthroating requires visits to hospital.
    E – Attempts to deepthroat means certain death.

    E will immediately be sterilized.
    D will become burger flippers.
    C will become USCIS employee.
    B will go to law school.
    A will be the technocratic elite.

    *This will be perfectly legal. Just trust me.
    **Since LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ are part of the coalition of fringes, we’ll make sure gay dudes get punished by being fellated by women.

    • Replies: @Antonin Chigurh
    @Hindoo

    LOL

    , @unpc downunder
    @Hindoo

    The LGBTs are part of the right liberal/left liberal alliance, the non-binaries are agitating to get into the alliance but haven't been accepted. They're simply too left wing. Big business likes gay fashion designers and transsexual CEOs and athletes, it doesn't like androgynous leftists who are unemployable outside of the SJW movement.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Hindoo

    I don't really want to work for USCIS.

    , @Alden
    @Hindoo

    That's what the Asians say, Big thing, little brain, Little thing, big brain.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t.

    I’ve been getting that feeling, that we’re dying as a country. Our demise appears to be- as they say in economics- increasing at an increasing rate. But I think we’re ready to hasten our decline even further. I think we’re gearing up for a major military adventure. In the past couple of weeks there’s been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    • Replies: @Detective Club
    @Anonymous

    Instead of a military fly-over and a twenty-one gun salute at John McCain's funeral, we're fixing to nuke North Korea in his honor. (McCain's death would give Merkel a ready-made excuse to let another 1 million "Syrian refugees" invade Germany. Oh, Angela, that crazy kid! - - - she's just funny that way!).

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Anonymous

    In the past couple of weeks there’s been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    Do tell. I'm guessing you're near Dover, DE.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alden

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Anonymous


    I’ve been getting that feeling, that we’re dying as a country.
     
    That is a libtard sentiment. Lie down until it subsides.
  10. @Sid
    There are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota. Hillary Clinton won Minnesota by less than 44,000 votes. McMullen won around 53,000 votes and Gary Johnson won roughly 112,000 votes, just to give you a perspective.

    Granted, there weren't enough Somalis to be absolutely decisive here, but the Democratic Party is working on that. If even a fraction of the Minnesotans who voted McMullen and Johnson in 2016 realize that Trump really isn't going to plunge the world into nuclear war the way the mainstream media said he would, then the Democrats may very well lose Minnesota in 2020.

    But if you import enough foreign ringers, you don't need to worry so much about Minnesotans soberly reassessing their political priorities.

    Replies: @George, @415 reasons, @The Only Catholic Unionist, @Ex-banker

    Somalis managed to vote Phyllis Kahn out ending her 44 year regime. Evidence that while there are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota they are organized so they vote like 100,000-120,000 native born Americans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Kahn

    Statement by Ilhan Omar, America’s #1 Somali.

    Statement from state Rep. Ilhan Omar on Justine Damond shooting

    http://www.startribune.com/statement-from-state-rep-ilhan-omar/435312913/

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @George

    Ilhan Omar, the one who was married to her brother.

    , @Wilkey
    @George

    Somalis managed to vote Phyllis Kahn out ending her 44 year regime. Evidence that while there are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota they are organized so they vote like 100,000-120,000 native born Americans.

    Nah. Minnesota has about 5.5 million people and its House has 134 seats. That's about 40,000 residents per seat. Kahn lost in the Democratic primary, so the number of votes would've been a lot smaller than in a general election - probably just a few thousand. What's interesting about the race is that same day registration and early voting occurred at dramatically higher rates in Kahn's district than in any other, and far more people cast votes for the legislative contest than the gubernatorial contest.

    Kahn spent 44 years feeding the bear. In 2003 she proposed a law to legalize first cousin marriage on behalf of the Somali community. In 2016 the bear finally ate her.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Barnard
    @George

    It sounds like Rep. Omar wants to take guns away from the police. Her solution of training police not to act out of fear would be much more feasible in a society made up of homogeneous, first world residents. You know, like Minnesota used to be before the Somalis invaded and diversity became our state religion.

    Replies: @George

  11. @Sid
    There are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota. Hillary Clinton won Minnesota by less than 44,000 votes. McMullen won around 53,000 votes and Gary Johnson won roughly 112,000 votes, just to give you a perspective.

    Granted, there weren't enough Somalis to be absolutely decisive here, but the Democratic Party is working on that. If even a fraction of the Minnesotans who voted McMullen and Johnson in 2016 realize that Trump really isn't going to plunge the world into nuclear war the way the mainstream media said he would, then the Democrats may very well lose Minnesota in 2020.

    But if you import enough foreign ringers, you don't need to worry so much about Minnesotans soberly reassessing their political priorities.

    Replies: @George, @415 reasons, @The Only Catholic Unionist, @Ex-banker

    There’s no way theres only 30,000 Somalis in all of Minnesota. I’m sure it is grossly underestimated and the real number is totally unknown.

  12. http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/justine-damonds-shooter-officer-mohamed-noor-cast-out-by-minneapolis-police-department/news-story/f333feea868f917497fbed27af9bd0df

    I love telling you guys I told you so. MPD tosses Noor under the bus. At the end of the day, LBGT* chief proves dragnet-worthy, casts a bad officer to his fate despite the prevailing political predelictions to do otherwise

    America will survive, the system works, no? Maybe diversitronic police chiefs can get the job done as you revanchists would like to see it done.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @anonguy


    I love telling you guys I told you so.
     
    Whom are you directing your post to?

    America will survive, the system works, no?
     
    America will survive? Yes. The system works? No. (cf, innocent Yoga instructor murdered by a halfwit.)
    , @Alden
    @anonguy

    He hasn't been cast out at all. He is on a nice long paid vacation known as administrative leave.

    Here's my prediction. Some time in January there will be an announcement that since there is no body camera footage and neither the driver nor the bike rider saw anything it is a big mystery.

    Both officers will be suspended without pay for a week as punishment for not having the body cameras on. Harrity will go back to work. Noor will become an assistant assistant public relations officer.

    The article is all about Noor's feeling abused because the department has not rushed to support him. Because he is Somalian the department and city government will support him. In America affirmative action African employees demand that their employers support and promote them no matter how incompetent and dangerous.

    Replies: @Jack D

  13. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    Maybe Steve King could slip up to MN and hold some seminars for the state’s leaders on western civilization, demographics, and immigration. The MN Morons have a lot to learn.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Buck Turgidson

    Iowa would remind Minnesota about dragging down the curve on that proximity to the Canadian border metric.

  14. Drayton is a stroked-out Dem, a veritable Zombie. He’s a typical Dem. politician of the present & the future. He’s just another Orwellian example of 2 + 2 = 5, just because he’s bold enough to say so. Remember when old Nancy Pelosi said that with every $1.00 increase in the Congressional Food Stamp spending appropriation, the domestic economy automatically benefits from an increase of $1.73 in Purchasing Power! That’s not even Romper Room math! That’s nuts beyond belief!

    Poor Nan . . . the devastating toxic effect of all those collagen injections has seeped into her frontal lobes and deprived her of her ability to reason. She thinks that George W. Bush is still President and she has happily said so on numerous occasions.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Detective Club

    You do realize, back in Bob's day the Democrats were the ones working for the white working class and the Eskimos were rooting for the Republicans.... Maybe it should come as no surprise that Hollywood films of the day were dragging the Dems through the mud.

  15. @Sid
    There are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota. Hillary Clinton won Minnesota by less than 44,000 votes. McMullen won around 53,000 votes and Gary Johnson won roughly 112,000 votes, just to give you a perspective.

    Granted, there weren't enough Somalis to be absolutely decisive here, but the Democratic Party is working on that. If even a fraction of the Minnesotans who voted McMullen and Johnson in 2016 realize that Trump really isn't going to plunge the world into nuclear war the way the mainstream media said he would, then the Democrats may very well lose Minnesota in 2020.

    But if you import enough foreign ringers, you don't need to worry so much about Minnesotans soberly reassessing their political priorities.

    Replies: @George, @415 reasons, @The Only Catholic Unionist, @Ex-banker

    No, they themselves are not, but it enhances the “margin of fraud” that Donks have in blue states. (Devoted readers will recall Norm Coleman won the Senate seat that Al Franken currently occupies, but not by the margin of fraud, so the decent people of Minnesota are now represented in the Senate by a man of whom there is a picture of him as an adult in a diaper.)

    • Replies: @Sid
    @The Only Catholic Unionist

    Right. There might not be enough Somalis in Minnesota to give the Democrats an insuperable advantage there (as is the case with Mexicans and other immigrant groups in California), but they give the Democrats much more breathing room, especially in close races. And at any rate, we can expect the Democrats to be hard at work to get more Somalis in, promise them gibmedats for votes, and then call you racist while they bus them from stop to stop on election day.

    , @anonn
    @The Only Catholic Unionist

    Did David Vitter switch parties?

  16. @Anonymous
    @Rod1963


    Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t.
     
    I've been getting that feeling, that we're dying as a country. Our demise appears to be- as they say in economics- increasing at an increasing rate. But I think we're ready to hasten our decline even further. I think we're gearing up for a major military adventure. In the past couple of weeks there's been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    Replies: @Detective Club, @TomSchmidt, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Instead of a military fly-over and a twenty-one gun salute at John McCain’s funeral, we’re fixing to nuke North Korea in his honor. (McCain’s death would give Merkel a ready-made excuse to let another 1 million “Syrian refugees” invade Germany. Oh, Angela, that crazy kid! – – – she’s just funny that way!).

  17. @anon
    Sad but true. When I look at a country's GDP, I am more interested in the per capita GDP. There is an incredible lack of nuance regarding quality and growth.

    Hope he still has an ownership interest in Target. They are taking a drubbing like retail in general. Plus they generated a lot of ill will by their politically progressive bathroom policy and are the subject of boycotts.

    Replies: @BB753, @scrivener3

    Plutocrats like Mark Dayton don’t care about GDP per capita. The higher it is, the less their share of the pie. But a high GDP with more consumers benefits those like him who have loads of money and assets and own real estate. It doesn’t matter to him that middle class taxpayers are footing the bill of the Ponzi scheme of importing more and more people who contribute nothing to productivity. When the system crashes down he’ll be dead or retired in Bermuda, so he doesn’t care.
    The problem is, people like Mark Dayton are too stupid to make the economy grow other than by immigration, that is, importing consumers. Mark Dayton is living proof of regression to the mean. He’s just not as smart as his grandfather (probably the reason he’s in politics), but still very wealthy. Without unfettered immigration, most of our plutocrat elite would lose a substantial part of their wealth or even go broke. “Invite the world” is basically affirmative action for mediocre rich guys like Mark Dayton. It allows them to remain safely in the top .01 %, while keeping uppity bright middle class people down.

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    @BB753

    The vast majority of our political leadership (like dumbass dayton) have no idea how to generate wealth without importing vast numbers of people and just pumping up the GDP -- or making it grosser, as the late Edward Abbey used to say.

    Perhaps another reason why Trump won, he knows that just making the economy bigger is meaningless to the avg citizen, he is focused on increasing productivity and per unit output

    , @The True and Original David
    @BB753

    So it turns out the real B-plus'er is not other than Dayton himself. "You are all mediocre," sneers Governor Mediocrity.

    Hating "dumb" whites so intently that he elects to import a bazillion retarded non-whites, is like belly-flopping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Just wait till Governor Mediocrity sees the dumbth of the newcomers. Maybe he's a D-plus, actually.

  18. Gov. Dayton seems to believe that God = greenback. I suppose it’s a popular delusion.

  19. • Replies: @dcthrowback
    @Arclight

    Larry David agrees that each of the teens should spend a year in prison together to think about what they've done. "You very bad man!"

    (Maybe we add another year each teen for the completely asinine rationale of placing the video online.)

    Replies: @Neuday

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Arclight

    According to first-hand accounts brought back by early white explorers and missionaries, African blacks enjoyed watching the slow torture of animals in their death throes. Remorse? Are you kidding? It was recreation for them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @AndrewR
    @Arclight

    The guy who drowned was black. I doubt this would be national news if the deceased had been white. Then again it's hard to imagine a white adult in Florida not knowing how to swim.

  20. Even politically correct Scandinavians in Minnesota and Sweden will wake up at some point.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @Flip

    >>Even politically correct Scandinavians in Minnesota and Sweden will wake up at some point.

    One hopes, but I don't know about that.

  21. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    That’s the strategy: import more people from the third world, give them EBT cards (funded by debt and white taxpayers), and have them spend all their money, which funnels the profits into the businesses so they can donate to the next political campaigns more than the previous election cycle.

    Way back in the day I used to work at a meat department at a grocery store. When the first weekend of the month hit, we sold a lot of high end cuts of meat. Of course when they ran out of EBT money, they’d just toss the ribeyes and beef tenderloin packages on a random shelf somewhere, spoling the meat. I guess if they couldn’t afford that steak, then nobody should be able to buy it and eat it.

  22. “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.

    Argumentative brutalism is a commonplace among moneyed, established elites and their paid lackeys in the academy, journalism, and corporate lobbies. Cherry-picked facts, any ol’ assertions of convenience or expedience, my way or the highway. Their often excellent educations end up as ornamental, essentially acting as camouflage for raw power-grabbing. See President Bush and Iraq II. We pick up the pieces for these political adventurers after they finish with their marauding.

    There’s a Canadian guy, author of something called Voltaire’s Bastards (?), who’s done good work criticizing the modern cult of faux rationality, which gives the unwarranted impression that primal passions, such as family, community, nation, and so on, are no longer important.

    • Replies: @guest
    @JackOH

    "There's a Canadian guy, author of something called Voltaire's Bastards (?), who's done good work criticizing the modern cult of faux rationality"

    John Ralston Saul. I know nothing about him but what I learned from Voltaire's Bastards, and it wouldn't surprise me if he were one of Them (globalist progressive liberals, or whatever). His book probably got wide distribution because at its foundation it's a good citizenship type thing, and saves its big guns for things the ruling class is comfortable criticizing, like the Military Industrial Complex.

    However, it's dangerously subversive, if you read it correctly. Moreso than the games played by post-modernists, deconstructivists, and other popular schools critiquing rationality. Which no one takes seriously, despite the salaries we afford them. Voltaire's Bastards is full of actual history and is anti-Narrative in the extreme, short of being reactionary.

    Its target is the Managerial State and the technocratic elite. Which other mainstream books, not counting conspiracy theories, barely admit exist. Or do so in a facile "counterculture" manner. Voltaire's Bastards stands and in a distinguished line with books by authors like James Burnham, Paul Gottfried, Bruce Charlton, and James Kalb, which go to the heart of PC darkness. Not by talking about lizard people, but by arranging obvious stuff, as well as stuff you've never heard of, in unfamiliar and striking patterns.

    True patterns, it must be said, at least up to a point. Because there are plenty of false ways to rearrange history since the Enlightenment to "prove" reason is a sham. Foucault couldn't do it. This guy's on the mark.

    Replies: @JackOH

    , @Desiderius
    @JackOH


    Their often excellent educations
     
    Cite needed.

    Marx crowded out the liberal arts long ago.

    Replies: @JackOH

  23. Steve,

    One way we can increase toilet paper sales is having more immigrants from Djibouti

    • Replies: @Stealth
    @Gman


    One way we can increase toilet paper sales is having more immigrants from Djibouti
     
    I seen what you did there.
  24. If “teens” is an euphemism for young blacks,
    reminder: on average blacks are very poor swimmers.
    No moral judgement, but fact of life.

  25. Hey iSteve, the good(white) folks at ProPublica have a nifty graph of the effect of immigration viagra on the US economy. Just add more of the purple people and see what happens. Whoop whoop whoop. Next graph, why Afghanistan is worth a trillion dollars to the US economy because minerals.

    The Immigration Effect

    There’s a Way for President Trump to Boost the Economy by Four Percent, But He Probably Won’t Like It.

    By Lena Groeger, ProPublica. July 19, 2017

    http://projects.propublica.org/graphics/gdp

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @George

    Fairly far down in the article these bozos briefly mention that there are a whole bunch of social, economic and fiscal externalities associated with immigrants. This means that on average every immigrant imposes significant costs on the economy and these costs are shifted entirely to native born citizens. The authors concede that these costs are large but choose not to compute them because it would be too difficult. They fail to acknowledge that doing so would also sink their argument.

    Also notice that these jerks are talking about gross GDP, not GDP per capita. If a country is importing people who on average have lower productivity than current citizens, it's obvious to anyone with a brain that ceteris paribus this lowers per capita GDP.

    It would appear that mainstream economists are just as adept at churning out squid ink as their fakes news MSM comrades.

  26. @George
    @Sid

    Somalis managed to vote Phyllis Kahn out ending her 44 year regime. Evidence that while there are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota they are organized so they vote like 100,000-120,000 native born Americans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Kahn

    Statement by Ilhan Omar, America's #1 Somali.

    Statement from state Rep. Ilhan Omar on Justine Damond shooting

    http://www.startribune.com/statement-from-state-rep-ilhan-omar/435312913/

    Replies: @Pericles, @Wilkey, @Barnard

    Ilhan Omar, the one who was married to her brother.

  27. @Arclight
    Sort of surprised to the the Washington Post cover a FL story involving "teens":

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/20/bro-you-scared-to-see-a-dead-person-teens-film-mock-man-as-he-drowned-police-say/?hpid=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-drowning%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.4b09142d6f28

    Replies: @dcthrowback, @ThreeCranes, @AndrewR

    Larry David agrees that each of the teens should spend a year in prison together to think about what they’ve done. “You very bad man!”

    (Maybe we add another year each teen for the completely asinine rationale of placing the video online.)

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @dcthrowback

    The event was hilarious to them, so why wouldn't you post such a video? White people just don't know what's funny.

  28. I would be primed to roll my eyes as Governor Dayton, but his statements on this case seem fairly responsible. There’s really no need for some higher authority to jump in at this point in the investigation.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    @TGGP

    Bull shit, the FBI civil rights division and department of homeland security should be coming down on murderer slash terrorist Mohamed Noor like a ton of bricks.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Boethiuss

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @TGGP

    I'm waiting for Donald Trump to Twitter, "I have a daughter and she looks a lot like Justine Damond."

    Then the SJWs will all jump in, weeping, wailing, gnashing teeth, and explaining that BO's use of the subjunctive in a similar statement obviously eliminated the corrosive racism they have found in President Trump's

  29. Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton pushes mass immigration, amnesty for illegal aliens and REFUGEE OVERLOAD.

    Governor Mark Dayton is a richboy weasel who wants to pauperize and terrorize Minnesotans by using mass immigration as a demographic and economic weapon. Governor Dayton is a plutocratic bastard who enjoys using mass immigration to make the lives of Minnesotans miserable.

    This Tweet is from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/backlon/status/666960819683508224

    Evil plutocrats such as Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton who push nation-wrecking mass immigration are treasonous rats of the worst sort. Governor Mark Dayton is deliberately attacking regular Minnesotans by using mass immigration to destroy cultural cohesion and AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION in Minnesota.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Charles Pewitt

    Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton pushes mass immigration, amnesty for illegal aliens and REFUGEE OVERLOAD.


    Governor Mark Dayton is a richboy weasel who wants to pauperize and terrorize Minnesotans by using mass immigration as a demographic and economic weapon. Governor Dayton is a plutocratic bastard who enjoys using mass immigration to make the lives of Minnesotans miserable.

    This Tweet is from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/backlon/status/666960819683508224

    Evil plutocrats such as Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton who push nation-wrecking mass immigration are treasonous rats of the worst sort. Governor Mark Dayton is deliberately attacking regular Minnesotans by using mass immigration to destroy cultural cohesion and AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION in Minnesota.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    , @Thea
    @Charles Pewitt

    Very reminiscent of what Nu Labour did to Britain. Treasonous Tony left his mark and that nation will never be the same.

  30. @Charles Pewitt
    Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton pushes mass immigration, amnesty for illegal aliens and REFUGEE OVERLOAD.

    Governor Mark Dayton is a richboy weasel who wants to pauperize and terrorize Minnesotans by using mass immigration as a demographic and economic weapon. Governor Dayton is a plutocratic bastard who enjoys using mass immigration to make the lives of Minnesotans miserable.

    This Tweet is from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/backlon/status/666960819683508224

    Evil plutocrats such as Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton who push nation-wrecking mass immigration are treasonous rats of the worst sort. Governor Mark Dayton is deliberately attacking regular Minnesotans by using mass immigration to destroy cultural cohesion and AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION in Minnesota.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Thea

    Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton pushes mass immigration, amnesty for illegal aliens and REFUGEE OVERLOAD.

    Governor Mark Dayton is a richboy weasel who wants to pauperize and terrorize Minnesotans by using mass immigration as a demographic and economic weapon. Governor Dayton is a plutocratic bastard who enjoys using mass immigration to make the lives of Minnesotans miserable.

    This Tweet is from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/backlon/status/666960819683508224

    Evil plutocrats such as Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton who push nation-wrecking mass immigration are treasonous rats of the worst sort. Governor Mark Dayton is deliberately attacking regular Minnesotans by using mass immigration to destroy cultural cohesion and AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION in Minnesota.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Charles Pewitt

    This comment has somehow been garbled from what I submitted to how it appears under the blog. It appears as I wrote it in my archive. I used no block quotes and it is missing a Tweet. It appears to suggest Dayton said something that I wrote.

  31. Attention Steve Sailer:

    Something went wrong in the translation of my comment from what I crafted and what appeared. Please delete the comments. I have never seen it do that before. Thank you.

  32. It’s fairly simple. People like him benefit from an absolute growth of the economy. Poor people need toilet paper too, and whether they’re miserable while they buy it is none of his concern. More people means more sales of daily necessities.

    Deplorables are more concerned about the kind of improvement in the economy that would allow more people to live a dignified life. This is racist.

  33. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    Interesting also is that gas stations take EBT cards. Well, gas stations are famous for the range of healthy, nutritious foods they sell.

    I was recently in an “asian” store (i.e. an oriental store) and noticed a sign on the wall stating that they accept EBT. I hadn’t considered such a thing, but it makes sense – they are a real grocery store. In front of me in line were some mexicans (or central americans of some kind) buying produce and various staples, though they weren’t using an EBT card, but rather paying in cash. Nothing strange about that, I suppose, though the times I have been in such stores, the only clientele I ever saw were asians and the odd white person once in a while.

  34. This econ genius would do well to import people from other states rather than countries thousands of miles away.

  35. Yes. As I said in another thread, it seems to me that the vast majority of economic “growth” (new housing developments, new retail developments, etc.) since at least the year 2000 is owed to mass immigration. White people are tapped the F out. I certainly am. I’m not going to be buying cable or an SUV or patio furniture anytime soon. I’m a Bad Consumer. So the solution is to import tens of millions of Good Consumers. As a Bad Consumer, I’ll also have to pay for the education costs for their offspring, housing costs for their extended family, healthcare costs for their immediate and extended families, food costs for everybody, and enormous, ungodly infrastructure costs for exploding suburbs. But that’s OK! As long as Target performs phenomenally well, I know our country has a bright future.

  36. Won’t somebody please think of the Economy?!

  37. @Sid
    There are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota. Hillary Clinton won Minnesota by less than 44,000 votes. McMullen won around 53,000 votes and Gary Johnson won roughly 112,000 votes, just to give you a perspective.

    Granted, there weren't enough Somalis to be absolutely decisive here, but the Democratic Party is working on that. If even a fraction of the Minnesotans who voted McMullen and Johnson in 2016 realize that Trump really isn't going to plunge the world into nuclear war the way the mainstream media said he would, then the Democrats may very well lose Minnesota in 2020.

    But if you import enough foreign ringers, you don't need to worry so much about Minnesotans soberly reassessing their political priorities.

    Replies: @George, @415 reasons, @The Only Catholic Unionist, @Ex-banker

    Looking on the other side, how many Minnesota voters went for Trump because they saw the impact of 25-30,000 Somalis in the state?

    Unfortunately, though, that level that drives anti-immigration voting would still have long term negative consequences.

    • Replies: @Sid
    @Ex-banker

    It's an arms-race between demographics and decucking. Ultimately, it would be for the best if we didn't live in a society full of Third Worlders and pissed off, hostile whites.

    My own preference is to live with nice white people who don't have much reason to be angry. It's currently politically expedient, even necessary, to tap into the anger white North Americans and Europeans have about losing their cultural heritage and national birthright, but I'd prefer for the reasons why we're mad to not be here.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

  38. Try viewing some video of Mark Dayton in the past few years. He must be under some serious psychotropic medication. I believe he is still suffering from daddy issues.

    • Replies: @EriK
    @eddy wobegon

    Re: Mark Dayton

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo

    Replies: @EriK

  39. “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.

    The problem is that those “white, B+ Minnesota-born citizens” that Gov. Dayton so condescendingly sniggers at are the very same people who put him into office. They elected him to the Senate and twice as governor. They’ve had plenty of opportunity to kick him to the political curb, but they haven’t.

    What can you say about people who vote multiple times for a guy who then proceeds to mock and insult them and side with immigrants and foreigners? Maybe he’s right about them being stupid and second-rate, after all…

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Dr. X

    I can see how Dems always win in Chicago and Cook County, where a majority of the population are black and Hispanic. But why do the whites in places such as MN keep voting for them? Chronic and acute niceness? The despicableness of the national GOP might have something to do with it, too.

    Replies: @Alden

  40. Dayton is not interested in capitalism except as a means to a higher end. He’s the Fredo of the family, and at an early age sent to a camp for rich ‘Fredos’ where they could get married and thus be less embarrassing to their kin. Thus, his ex-wife, the Rockefeller, is not from some strategic dynasty as opposed to a meager attempt to keep the family from becoming a prole. He’s only a politician because of his name–Dayton’s was a well-known retailing company in Minnesota–and ability to self-finance his campaigns make him a viable candidate.

    He is a standard progressive, believing the state should direct more of everything, and the state is represented by a vanguard that is pure, virtuous and true. This involves fetishizing aggregates like GDP (which grows w/ more people as a first-order effect), but those are means to an end. The problem is that as a company gets larger, it becomes more dependent on the state, via labor regulations, laws about opening new stores, laws that discourage new competitors, etc. Thus they become cronies, championing the state’s objectives in return for favorable treatment. The Targets of the world are not the objective, rather, they are just self-interested allies of the progressive vanguard.

  41. Point of Order: Alida Ferry Rockefeller Messinger, Jay Rockefeller’s sister, is Dayton’s former wife. (I don’t believe she is any relation to Roxy Music’s Bryan Ferry.) The guv and Ali have two adult sons.

  42. @Arclight
    Sort of surprised to the the Washington Post cover a FL story involving "teens":

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/20/bro-you-scared-to-see-a-dead-person-teens-film-mock-man-as-he-drowned-police-say/?hpid=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-drowning%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.4b09142d6f28

    Replies: @dcthrowback, @ThreeCranes, @AndrewR

    According to first-hand accounts brought back by early white explorers and missionaries, African blacks enjoyed watching the slow torture of animals in their death throes. Remorse? Are you kidding? It was recreation for them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @ThreeCranes


    According to first-hand accounts brought back by early white explorers and missionaries, African blacks enjoyed watching the slow torture of animals in their death throes. Remorse? Are you kidding? It was recreation for them.
     
    Nouvelle-Aquitaine is in Africa?

    Replies: @jim jones

  43. @TGGP
    I would be primed to roll my eyes as Governor Dayton, but his statements on this case seem fairly responsible. There's really no need for some higher authority to jump in at this point in the investigation.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Bull shit, the FBI civil rights division and department of homeland security should be coming down on murderer slash terrorist Mohamed Noor like a ton of bricks.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @27 year old

    It won't happen, as the so-called "civil-rights" division of the U S Department of Justice (actually "just us") has declared that whites are not covered by "civil-rights" laws, and as such, are ineligible for "civil-rights" protections under existing laws. This has been the stance of the U S Justice Department for decades. Ask the present director of the "civil-rights" division...
    Their rationale for excluding whites is that they consider whites to "have the power"--something that they have determined that (certain) minorities do not.
    As it presently stands, whites do not have "civil-rights", but DO have Constitutional rights. I would have to surmise that Constitutional rights surpass "civil-rights" every time.
    Regards,

    Replies: @27 year old, @Alden

    , @Boethiuss
    @27 year old



    Bull shit, the FBI civil rights division and department of homeland security should be coming down on murderer slash terrorist Mohamed Noor like a ton of bricks.
     
    Well, why can't we do this? Oh yeah, Donald Trump is President and he trashes everybody who's ever worked for him (eg, the latest Jeff Sessions episode). So the FBI, the Civil Rights Division, the rest of the DOJ, they all have the same SJW's who were there before. But by all means we should be sticking by Trump.

    Replies: @Difference maker, @Jack Hanson

  44. Anti White stuff has done very well since 1955, so Dayton is no surprise. Anti White is part of the White civil war since at least Caesars time

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Whiskey

    Correction, Whiskey: anti-Gentile

  45. If only somebody could ask this POS governor on camera: “You previously described the White people of Minnesota as quote ‘B+’, what grade would you give the Somalian Mohamed Noor?”

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous, Nico
  46. @dcthrowback
    @Arclight

    Larry David agrees that each of the teens should spend a year in prison together to think about what they've done. "You very bad man!"

    (Maybe we add another year each teen for the completely asinine rationale of placing the video online.)

    Replies: @Neuday

    The event was hilarious to them, so why wouldn’t you post such a video? White people just don’t know what’s funny.

  47. Pierce followed up that great quote with another one in the same episode which revolves around a model UN competition.

    Pierce: The great country of Somalia, this gem, this Shangri-La, graciously invites the Ethiopian refugees to enjoy safe lodging and cool ocean breezes on its sand-swept beaches.

  48. @George
    @Sid

    Somalis managed to vote Phyllis Kahn out ending her 44 year regime. Evidence that while there are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota they are organized so they vote like 100,000-120,000 native born Americans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Kahn

    Statement by Ilhan Omar, America's #1 Somali.

    Statement from state Rep. Ilhan Omar on Justine Damond shooting

    http://www.startribune.com/statement-from-state-rep-ilhan-omar/435312913/

    Replies: @Pericles, @Wilkey, @Barnard

    Somalis managed to vote Phyllis Kahn out ending her 44 year regime. Evidence that while there are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota they are organized so they vote like 100,000-120,000 native born Americans.

    Nah. Minnesota has about 5.5 million people and its House has 134 seats. That’s about 40,000 residents per seat. Kahn lost in the Democratic primary, so the number of votes would’ve been a lot smaller than in a general election – probably just a few thousand. What’s interesting about the race is that same day registration and early voting occurred at dramatically higher rates in Kahn’s district than in any other, and far more people cast votes for the legislative contest than the gubernatorial contest.

    Kahn spent 44 years feeding the bear. In 2003 she proposed a law to legalize first cousin marriage on behalf of the Somali community. In 2016 the bear finally ate her.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Wilkey

    What did she do to irritate the Somali community?

    Replies: @Wilkey

  49. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    “Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t.”

    It’s entropy writ large. Sure, the importation of unskilled workers will make things worse for the overall population, but it will improve things for a small segment of it. Diluted suffering and concentrated benefits is how we get things like sugar prices 3x world levels to support the Fanjuls in Florida. Then how we get high-fructose corn syrup to replace expensive sugar, then how we get an obesity epidemic when the fructose doesn’t immediately raise blood glucose and end the craving for sugar.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @TomSchmidt

    Still doing my part to boycott the Fanjul machine by skipping sugar, and HFCS, too. Once you start noticing those on food labels it is shocking to see the prevalence.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  50. @Anonymous
    @Rod1963


    Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t.
     
    I've been getting that feeling, that we're dying as a country. Our demise appears to be- as they say in economics- increasing at an increasing rate. But I think we're ready to hasten our decline even further. I think we're gearing up for a major military adventure. In the past couple of weeks there's been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    Replies: @Detective Club, @TomSchmidt, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    In the past couple of weeks there’s been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    Do tell. I’m guessing you’re near Dover, DE.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @TomSchmidt

    Maryland. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago and then last week my wife asked what was going on. Last weekend I asked a neighbor if he knew what was going on as pairs of different fighter aircraft flew over, heading somewhere. He said, "Wasting our tax dollars."

    Could be nothing, but as I said, the last time I saw a similar pattern was in late 2002, right before the Iraq war.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    , @Alden
    @TomSchmidt

    Are coffin factories suddenly busy?

  51. @George
    @Sid

    Somalis managed to vote Phyllis Kahn out ending her 44 year regime. Evidence that while there are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota they are organized so they vote like 100,000-120,000 native born Americans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Kahn

    Statement by Ilhan Omar, America's #1 Somali.

    Statement from state Rep. Ilhan Omar on Justine Damond shooting

    http://www.startribune.com/statement-from-state-rep-ilhan-omar/435312913/

    Replies: @Pericles, @Wilkey, @Barnard

    It sounds like Rep. Omar wants to take guns away from the police. Her solution of training police not to act out of fear would be much more feasible in a society made up of homogeneous, first world residents. You know, like Minnesota used to be before the Somalis invaded and diversity became our state religion.

    • Replies: @George
    @Barnard

    "before the Somalis invaded and diversity became our state religion."

    The somalis did not invade. We invaded, then invited them.

    She also might be speaking against the militarization of the police, or even dog whistling about using Israeli training for American police.

  52. What kind of pussy-ass masochists live in Minnesota? Who the fuck elects a guy like this?

    What the hell happened to Swedes, Germans and their descendents?

    It’s becoming more and more apparent that a large chunk of whites need to be culled from the gene pool. These people aren’t worth fighting for, and I sure as hell don’t want them next to me in a fight.

    Let me reiterate: It’s not survival of the nicest; it’s survival of the fittest. Minnesotans are going down.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @anony-mouse
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    'What the hell happened to Swedes, Germans and their descendents?'

    American Swedes and Germans are acting like European Swedes and Germans.

    This is an HBD site, isn't it?

    , @lavoisier
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    It is a just a manifestation of the disease called liberalism.

  53. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.

    It’ll always ‘expand the economy’ with these folks. Money is their religion, their entire reason for living. Spending one’s life in a pleasant way doesn’t register, it’s just money money money. It’s a sickness. These people are sick. Or, instead, is it that they are sickening?

  54. Non-trolly question – would it be applicable to use the Sunshine Act to demand to see all of Mark Dayton’s grades during school?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Daniel Chieh

    A governor who would insult his own constituents so brazenly probably was never the sharpest tool in the shed. Then again this is MN we're talking about. A lot of these Nordic types live for self-debasement.

    , @passive-aggressivist
    @Daniel Chieh

    or perhaps his prescription drug regimen. it may be partly his personality, but his vacant eyes (especially in person) really push you into the uncanny valley.

    let's not forget this pinnacle of minnesota privilege, whose EX-wife is the rockefeller, is an alcoholic who has long struggled with depression. nonetheless, minnesotans elected him to statewide office THREE times. The first time was to the us senate, where time magazine rated him one of the "five worst" -- obviously not enough to stop minnesota from twice electing him governor to hear him openly call for demographic replacement.

    if the average voter can't be deterred by an ultra-rich, incompetent, depressed alcoholic who would rather see them replaced by east africans, i'm pretty sure it's all over.

  55. Startled police officer Mohamed Noor was the eldest of ten children.

    • Replies: @Bleuteaux
    @Mark Caplan

    Yeah. Tell me how Minneapolis doesn't go majority Somali by 2050?

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    , @Lurker
    @Mark Caplan

    Startled Trooper.

    , @dr kill
    @Mark Caplan

    I know, right? How many many loud noises do you think he heard with 26 Somalis living in 3 rooms? What a story. I deserve a a gold box for this observation. Just the praying had to be ear splitting five times a day.

    Replies: @Alden

  56. @27 year old
    @TGGP

    Bull shit, the FBI civil rights division and department of homeland security should be coming down on murderer slash terrorist Mohamed Noor like a ton of bricks.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Boethiuss

    It won’t happen, as the so-called “civil-rights” division of the U S Department of Justice (actually “just us”) has declared that whites are not covered by “civil-rights” laws, and as such, are ineligible for “civil-rights” protections under existing laws. This has been the stance of the U S Justice Department for decades. Ask the present director of the “civil-rights” division…
    Their rationale for excluding whites is that they consider whites to “have the power”–something that they have determined that (certain) minorities do not.
    As it presently stands, whites do not have “civil-rights”, but DO have Constitutional rights. I would have to surmise that Constitutional rights surpass “civil-rights” every time.
    Regards,

    • Replies: @27 year old
    @anarchyst

    >As it presently stands, whites do not have “civil-rights”, but DO have Constitutional rights.
    >I would have to surmise that Constitutional rights surpass “civil-rights” every time.

    I would not bet on that

    , @Alden
    @anarchyst

    Rights on paper mean nothing unless they are enforced. Constitutional rights for Whites are never enforced.

    Replies: @the alt white comics

  57. @Arclight
    Sort of surprised to the the Washington Post cover a FL story involving "teens":

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/20/bro-you-scared-to-see-a-dead-person-teens-film-mock-man-as-he-drowned-police-say/?hpid=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-drowning%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.4b09142d6f28

    Replies: @dcthrowback, @ThreeCranes, @AndrewR

    The guy who drowned was black. I doubt this would be national news if the deceased had been white. Then again it’s hard to imagine a white adult in Florida not knowing how to swim.

  58. Anonymous [AKA "gringa"] says:

    Dang, I love it.

    Honestly, I do wish you’d light up Trump as well. Frum is kinda funny on twitter sometimes, but not really in your league.

  59. @Daniel Chieh
    Non-trolly question - would it be applicable to use the Sunshine Act to demand to see all of Mark Dayton's grades during school?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @passive-aggressivist

    A governor who would insult his own constituents so brazenly probably was never the sharpest tool in the shed. Then again this is MN we’re talking about. A lot of these Nordic types live for self-debasement.

  60. Would be better to live among C+ whites than A+ Third World I migrants.

  61. VJ says:

    Mark Dayton is a piece of globalist shit who has said Minnesotans who object to the importation of Somalis and other Third Worlders should leave Minnesota. These are the people who built Minnesota and the United States. Dayton is a filthy traitor to his own people and should be politically, physically, and financially punished and removed beyond the furthest Pale.

  62. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    EBT cards may be why Target has installed big grocery departments offering food about 20 to 30 percent less than the supermarket a block away.

    I was in one recently and took a good look at the towels, bath mats bedspreads lamps vases and women’s and children’s clothes.

    They were all really bad quality, much lower than similar price Macy’s and much lower price Ross. The towels were very stiff and coarse.
    The women’s and children’s clothes were made of coarse cheap cloth, almost like Halloween costume cloth.
    The women’s section had an unusually large stock of “women’s” X XX and XXX
    Sizes. X is 250 pds average height XX is 300pds and XXX is 350 to 500 pds.

    And most of the summer tops in the X section were sleeveless scoop neck. Gross, imagine those blubbery arms, backs, chests, and triple chins.

    And of course there is not one White employee in the store.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Alden

    From 2007, but likely still very relevant today:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17665989/ns/business-us_business/t/target-shifts-muslims-who-wont-ring-pork/#.WXJecVGQyUk


    MINNEAPOLIS — Muslim cashiers at some local Target stores who object to ringing up products that contain pork are being shifted to other positions where they don’t need to, the discount retailer said Saturday.

    The Star Tribune reported this past week that some Muslim cashiers at local Targets had declined to scan pork products such as bacon because doing so would conflict with their religious beliefs. They would ask other cashiers to ring up such purchases, or sometimes customers would scan those items themselves, the newspaper reported.

    Minneapolis-based Target Corp. has now offered its local Muslim cashiers who object to handling pork the option of wearing gloves while cashiering, shifting to other positions or transferring to other nearby stores.

    Worker Walks Over Issue

    Muse Dahir told the AP this past week he quit his job at the Sam’s Club in Bloomington [Minnesota] after he was transferred from another position to cashiering and was ordered to ring up pork purchases.

    Several times on his first day as a cashier, Dahir said, said customers brought pork products to his register. He asked them to take their goods to another register, and a customer complained to management.

    “They told me, you have to check this,” Dahir said. “I told them, I can’t do this. You want me to do something that’s against my religion.”

    Dahir said a manager told him that was part of the job, so “I just put down my uniform and I left.”

    He said it doesn’t matter if the pork product is packaged. “Even if you just sell it to someone, you break a promise to Allah,” he said.

     

    Good thing Target doesn't have any Christian cashiers who refuse to ring up those homosexual couples' wedding cakes!!

    Replies: @pepperinmono

    , @MBlanc46
    @Alden

    Target used to have a bit of cachet for being upmarket for a discount store. If the one near me is representative, they've decided to go the K-Mart route.

    , @Lucas McCrudy
    @Alden

    In a somewhat related story- According to Breitbart, Target's CEO is now whining because Hispanic foot-shuffling at his stores has declined since Trump's election: "The Hispanic consumer in the U.S. is shopping much less” “They are staying home. They are going out less often"

    More muh GDP. Who cares if actual Americans are relegated to a powerless minority in a Third World America... Life in our million-dollar neighborhoods will remain unchanged!

    see- http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/22/httpwww-breitbart-combig-government20170722americans-protest-very-fake-news-cnn-outside-of-atlanta-headquarters/

  63. @Daniel Chieh
    Non-trolly question - would it be applicable to use the Sunshine Act to demand to see all of Mark Dayton's grades during school?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @passive-aggressivist

    or perhaps his prescription drug regimen. it may be partly his personality, but his vacant eyes (especially in person) really push you into the uncanny valley.

    let’s not forget this pinnacle of minnesota privilege, whose EX-wife is the rockefeller, is an alcoholic who has long struggled with depression. nonetheless, minnesotans elected him to statewide office THREE times. The first time was to the us senate, where time magazine rated him one of the “five worst” — obviously not enough to stop minnesota from twice electing him governor to hear him openly call for demographic replacement.

    if the average voter can’t be deterred by an ultra-rich, incompetent, depressed alcoholic who would rather see them replaced by east africans, i’m pretty sure it’s all over.

  64. @27 year old
    @TGGP

    Bull shit, the FBI civil rights division and department of homeland security should be coming down on murderer slash terrorist Mohamed Noor like a ton of bricks.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Boethiuss

    Bull shit, the FBI civil rights division and department of homeland security should be coming down on murderer slash terrorist Mohamed Noor like a ton of bricks.

    Well, why can’t we do this? Oh yeah, Donald Trump is President and he trashes everybody who’s ever worked for him (eg, the latest Jeff Sessions episode). So the FBI, the Civil Rights Division, the rest of the DOJ, they all have the same SJW’s who were there before. But by all means we should be sticking by Trump.

    • Replies: @Difference maker
    @Boethiuss

    Not to worry. They will all bend the knee or be purged

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Boethiuss

    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn't pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us "Trump can't win".

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Difference maker, @Autochthon

  65. @anon
    Sad but true. When I look at a country's GDP, I am more interested in the per capita GDP. There is an incredible lack of nuance regarding quality and growth.

    Hope he still has an ownership interest in Target. They are taking a drubbing like retail in general. Plus they generated a lot of ill will by their politically progressive bathroom policy and are the subject of boycotts.

    Replies: @BB753, @scrivener3

    absolutely. If I ever hear another politician say to get GDP growth we need more people. Who cares about GDP growth other than the owners and heads of large public companies? For them GDP growth means they have a larger top line (sales) and beat expectations and, because of irrationality in the marketplace, the value of their enterprise goes up as if they are a rapidly growing company. In actuality they are sticks in the mud but everything is going up.

  66. Do Somalis even use toilet paper? I think hand + water is the custom there.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous, years ago my wife and I sat down to enjoy a cocktail on our hotel balcony overlooking the Nile at Cairo. We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump. Finished, he walked into the Nile and washed his butt. "Room Service? Two more gin and tonics to our room please."

    Replies: @Romanian, @Charles Pewitt, @Dr. X, @antipater_1

    , @bored identity
    @Anonymous

    It's called a poor man's bidet, you...hater.

    Wuz inveneted by Kangz more then 5000 years ago!

  67. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    First episode of “The Sopranos” Tony is telling Dr. Melfi that it’s best to be in at the beginning of things and he always knew he missed that, but lately, he’s getting the feeling that he came in at the end. I feel that way about America lately. I mean, it’s not that America is going away. Great leading civilizations don’t usually go away exactly. They just eventually settle in to something else

  68. @Mark Caplan
    Startled police officer Mohamed Noor was the eldest of ten children.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux, @Lurker, @dr kill

    Yeah. Tell me how Minneapolis doesn’t go majority Somali by 2050?

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Bleuteaux

    >Assuming that it all hasn't come apart by 2030

  69. @Mark Caplan
    Startled police officer Mohamed Noor was the eldest of ten children.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux, @Lurker, @dr kill

    Startled Trooper.

    • LOL: JohnnyGeo
  70. Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton is a rich boy globalizer who pushes mass immigration, amnesty for illegal alien invaders and REFUGEE OVERLOAD. Dayton takes great delight in pauperizing and taunting regular Minnesota people who can’t escape and avoid multicultural mayhem like he does. The woman shot by the REFUGEE OVERLOAD cop is an example of a regular person who was a victim of the mass immigration that Dayton so admires.

    Mark Dayton has a history of attacking regular people of modest means who question the wisdom of mass immigration and multiculturalism. Dayton, as a rich boy, is supposed to hide the scorn he feels about regular people. Dayton is honest in his hatred of regular Minnesotans, I’ll say that for him.

  71. Dayton invariably sounds drunk. It’s obvious he’s mentally ill, and I don’t say that about all politicians I dislike. Even Jesse Ventura, who has let his mind go with his waistline, is 90% act. Dayton is the real deal. He may be a legitimate crazy person in need of hospitalization.

    Is there any other head of state who sits in office literally because of his name, and no other reason? It’s as if since 2011 we decided collectively that the governorship doesn’t matter, and we can afford to have a stuffed animal mascot as placeholder.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @guest

    The Illinois Democratic primary contest for Governor next year will be between a Kennedy and a scion of the Pritzker fanily which owns the Hyatt hotels.

  72. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    Big picture. We’re dying as a country.

    This is just dumb, Jack Hanson needs to straighten you out!

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @anonymous

    I've never disagreed with that statement, brave anonymous.

    Just the blackpilled eeyores who consistently claim every Trump action is The Worst Ever. At worst, Trump has bought us time. At best he drop kicked the Overton Window enough that we might fix this mess.

    I don't exoect someone scared to use a pseudonym to even show up to the future tho.

  73. Off topic worthy of up post.

    I have to say I have championed this for years and I am glad somewhere it is finally being implemented.

    Of course the left is going to have a massive case of the vapors as this gets out. Imagine their shock if opinions polls show the majority of American scream “AMEN It is about time!!!!”

    If I did not see it on the CNN website I would have thought it was an Alt-Right fantasy troll.

    Tennessee county inmates get reduced jail time for getting a vasectomy
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/us/white-county-inmate-vasectomy-trnd/index.html

    (CNN)Yes, you read that right. Inmates in White County, Tennessee, can shave 30 days off their jail sentence if they undergo an elective birth control procedure.

    Both male and female inmates can volunteer for the new program. Women receive a Nexplanon implant in their arm, which provides up to three years of continuous birth control. Men undergo a vasectomy. The procedures are free and conducted by the Tennessee Department of Health.

    • Replies: @AM
    @anonymous-antimarxist


    Imagine their shock if opinions polls show the majority of American scream “AMEN It is about time!!!!”.
     
    Sterilization under duress strikes me as one of those Pyrrhic victories. Playing or least shadowboxing God just never, ever turns out the way you want.

    The Nexplanon implant is only temporary. ( I'm assuming here that eugenics is still the goal here). What's to stop the woman from taking it out, once she's out? Hormone type sterilization can really mess with a woman's overall health. 6 months from now, she's got headaches/weight gain/etc. Go the MD with legitimate health issues and get it removed.

    The most you're gonna get out of this is letting out guys a little earlywho were going to get a vasectomy anyway. Except now they have no next to no reason to think twice about sexual promiscuity, if that was part of their issues. And certainly people who are mostly thinking about their next hook up are always busy building great societies. sigh

  74. Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton is a wealthy politician who enjoys taunting regular people about being demographically replaced in their own state by mass immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD. Dayton is a rich boy who never learned to hide the scorn and hate that most rich boys have for regular people. Dayton has a history of nastily inviting Minnesotans to leave the state if they don’t like multiculturalism.

    Mark Dayton said this in 2015:

    “Look around you. This is Minnesota,” Dayton said. “Minnesota is not like it was 30, 50 years ago. … This is Minnesota and you have every right to be here. And anybody who cannot accept your right to be here, and this is Minnesota, should find another state.”

    “If you are that intolerant, if you are that much of a racist or a bigot, then find another state. Find a state where the minority population is 1 percent or whatever. It’s not that in Minnesota. It’s not going to be again. It’s not going to be that in St. Cloud, or Rochester or Worthington,” Dayton said.

    https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/10/16/mn-governor-dayton-dont-like-immigrants-get-out-of-minnesota/

    Governor Dayton is the voice of sovereignty-sapping globalization and nation-wrecking mass immigration. Governor Dayton is the type of treasonous globalizer rat who has been pouring mass immigration into the United States for 50 years or more. Governor Dayton has signalled clearly that he is an enemy of the historic American nation.

  75. “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.

    “Welcome to Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average.”

    To Dayton, those above average children represent a problem – so he wants to bring some C-, D, and F types in to achieve balance.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    @Crawfurdmuir

    Well, if you are in the business of selling consumables, cell phones, cars, etc, ie, things that have already been created, you obviously want more people to buy those things.

    All those dieverse types have to buy just as much stuff and if the dieverse can't afford it then (((they))) can pass laws taking money from the productive and give it to the unproductive ...

  76. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This bullshit that has been going on for the past couple of decades of trying to fix the economy by importing welfare recipients and raising taxes on hard working Americans to pay for it is doomed to fail, and fail miserably. I would suggest that most of these taxpayers would gladly buy double the amount of toilet paper and ship it to Somalia if it would keep these ignorant hut dwellers and their nasty habit in Africa where they belong. The only ones winning in this are the immigrants and the big retail corps (banks). Oh sure these christian resettlement groups get rich off of it but in the long run who gets that money, the banks. This huge push for third world immigration has always been about one thing, increasing consumerism. Poor Somalis don’t buy toilet paper. toothpaste, gasoline, potato chips, deodorant, etc, etc, They don’t buy much of anything while living in Somalia, But lets move them over here, give them a food stamp card , a monthly stipend so they got some spending money, set them up in a rent free house, they will spend eat consume, as the subliminal messages the government treated us to on tv back in the sixties and seventies. The reasoning of the politicians is that sure maybe these first groups wont work and the taxpayers will foot the bill, but in the next generations of those born and raised here will be more educated and will be ambitious Americans wanting to get jobs and create small businesses. Unfortunately being born in America isn’t going to automatically raise the IQ of the group and it certainly won’t change their inherent tribalism and violence that is in their genetic makeup. I’m sure that Americans would gladly agree to a tax to raise money to keep the world’s moochers in their homelands, but as we all know sending wealth to help the poor people in third world countries only winds up in the corrupt greedy hands of the dictators of these places. So Trump needs to honor his campaign promises and make these dregs remain in their own countries. May be the wealthy elite would like to open up some Walmarts and McDonalds in Somali and introduce them to consumerism. ringing people hear and giving them free shit wont work. It’s already too late for Europe, but we still have a fighting chance at saving out nation and our culture.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @anonymous

    Foreign aid

    Direct deposit for dictators!!!!

  77. @Anonymous
    Do Somalis even use toilet paper? I think hand + water is the custom there.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @bored identity

    Anonymous, years ago my wife and I sat down to enjoy a cocktail on our hotel balcony overlooking the Nile at Cairo. We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump. Finished, he walked into the Nile and washed his butt. “Room Service? Two more gin and tonics to our room please.”

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Buffalo Joe

    Bigot! You should have approached him then and there to see how you can help him get a visa! Another valuable American lost before he could contribute to the Economy!

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Charles Pewitt
    @Buffalo Joe


    More interestingly, the gin and tonic has a storied history that places it at the heart of the largest empire the world has ever known. Indeed, it is not too much of a stretch to say that the gin and tonic was as essential a weapon for the British Empire as the Gatling gun.

     


    No less an authority on imperial power than Winston Churchill once declared, “The gin and tonic has saved more Englishmen’s lives, and minds, than all the doctors in the Empire.”

     

    The above is from this article:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/foreigners/2013/08/gin_and_tonic_kept_the_british_empire_healthy_the_drink_s_quinine_powder.html

    Let us not forget the India Pale Ale. That ale was made in such a way that it stayed fresh on the ocean voyage to India and other various parts of the British Empire.

    QUININE

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Cortes

    , @Dr. X
    @Buffalo Joe


    We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump.

     

    I was surprised to find that open defecation is actually a "thing" that the UN-globalist types are campaigning against. Apparently it's quite common and practiced by billions in the Third World. There's even a Wikipedia page on it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_defecation

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @antipater_1
    @Buffalo Joe

    Of course you can see the same thing in San Francisco or Denver!

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  78. Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton has health problems to go along with his hatred of regular Minnesotans. Governor Dayton is not well; in this January, 2017 video he collapses while delivering the state of the state speech:

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Charles Pewitt

    I'm shocked Dayton hasn't resigned yet and given his job to a more deserving Somali.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Stealth

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Charles Pewitt

    No, Caesar hath it not. But you and I and honest Casca, we have the falling sickness.

    , @Alden
    @Charles Pewitt

    He was probably drunk or stoned.

  79. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous, years ago my wife and I sat down to enjoy a cocktail on our hotel balcony overlooking the Nile at Cairo. We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump. Finished, he walked into the Nile and washed his butt. "Room Service? Two more gin and tonics to our room please."

    Replies: @Romanian, @Charles Pewitt, @Dr. X, @antipater_1

    Bigot! You should have approached him then and there to see how you can help him get a visa! Another valuable American lost before he could contribute to the Economy!

    • LOL: AM
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Romanian

    Romanian, seeing this was years ago I will assume that he and his family are all here in the US. His expertise in fertilization probably won him an HB1 visa.

  80. @Crawfurdmuir

    “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.
     
    "Welcome to Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average."

    To Dayton, those above average children represent a problem - so he wants to bring some C-, D, and F types in to achieve balance.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter

    Well, if you are in the business of selling consumables, cell phones, cars, etc, ie, things that have already been created, you obviously want more people to buy those things.

    All those dieverse types have to buy just as much stuff and if the dieverse can’t afford it then (((they))) can pass laws taking money from the productive and give it to the unproductive …

  81. @Boethiuss
    @27 year old



    Bull shit, the FBI civil rights division and department of homeland security should be coming down on murderer slash terrorist Mohamed Noor like a ton of bricks.
     
    Well, why can't we do this? Oh yeah, Donald Trump is President and he trashes everybody who's ever worked for him (eg, the latest Jeff Sessions episode). So the FBI, the Civil Rights Division, the rest of the DOJ, they all have the same SJW's who were there before. But by all means we should be sticking by Trump.

    Replies: @Difference maker, @Jack Hanson

    Not to worry. They will all bend the knee or be purged

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Difference maker



    Not to worry. They will all bend the knee or be purged
     
    Bend the knee to Trump? As if. Trump isn't going to purge anybody. You need henchmen to carry out a purge, and Trump doesn't have any. Notice how Trump has been in office for six months now, and there hasn't been any purges.

    Replies: @AM

  82. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous, years ago my wife and I sat down to enjoy a cocktail on our hotel balcony overlooking the Nile at Cairo. We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump. Finished, he walked into the Nile and washed his butt. "Room Service? Two more gin and tonics to our room please."

    Replies: @Romanian, @Charles Pewitt, @Dr. X, @antipater_1

    More interestingly, the gin and tonic has a storied history that places it at the heart of the largest empire the world has ever known. Indeed, it is not too much of a stretch to say that the gin and tonic was as essential a weapon for the British Empire as the Gatling gun.

    No less an authority on imperial power than Winston Churchill once declared, “The gin and tonic has saved more Englishmen’s lives, and minds, than all the doctors in the Empire.”

    The above is from this article:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/foreigners/2013/08/gin_and_tonic_kept_the_british_empire_healthy_the_drink_s_quinine_powder.html

    Let us not forget the India Pale Ale. That ale was made in such a way that it stayed fresh on the ocean voyage to India and other various parts of the British Empire.

    QUININE

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charles, Thank you for my lesson of the day, even though I am currently enjoying a Moscow Mule, damn those Russians, and not a Gin and tonic. Put a drink on my tab. And before I get a reply, I know Moscow Mules are not a Russian drink.

    Replies: @Ivy

    , @Cortes
    @Charles Pewitt

    India Pale Ale was designed to survive the voyage East from Scotland and still be drinkable. Its name used to be subtitled in my younger days but the headline name in domestic sales was Export. On cans of "export" there was an image of a Charles II style cavalier with the legend " India Pale Ale" framing the portrait.

  83. Sid says:
    @Ex-banker
    @Sid

    Looking on the other side, how many Minnesota voters went for Trump because they saw the impact of 25-30,000 Somalis in the state?

    Unfortunately, though, that level that drives anti-immigration voting would still have long term negative consequences.

    Replies: @Sid

    It’s an arms-race between demographics and decucking. Ultimately, it would be for the best if we didn’t live in a society full of Third Worlders and pissed off, hostile whites.

    My own preference is to live with nice white people who don’t have much reason to be angry. It’s currently politically expedient, even necessary, to tap into the anger white North Americans and Europeans have about losing their cultural heritage and national birthright, but I’d prefer for the reasons why we’re mad to not be here.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Sid

    I'd also rather not be angry, especially in my old age. But we don't always get what we want.

  84. @anarchyst
    @27 year old

    It won't happen, as the so-called "civil-rights" division of the U S Department of Justice (actually "just us") has declared that whites are not covered by "civil-rights" laws, and as such, are ineligible for "civil-rights" protections under existing laws. This has been the stance of the U S Justice Department for decades. Ask the present director of the "civil-rights" division...
    Their rationale for excluding whites is that they consider whites to "have the power"--something that they have determined that (certain) minorities do not.
    As it presently stands, whites do not have "civil-rights", but DO have Constitutional rights. I would have to surmise that Constitutional rights surpass "civil-rights" every time.
    Regards,

    Replies: @27 year old, @Alden

    >As it presently stands, whites do not have “civil-rights”, but DO have Constitutional rights.
    >I would have to surmise that Constitutional rights surpass “civil-rights” every time.

    I would not bet on that

  85. Anonymous [AKA "marionberry"] says:

    Slightly OT:

    “Let the crops rot in the field, Hal.”
    “I’m sorry, Dave, I can’t let you do that.”

    California agriculture acknowledges its low-labor future, adapts quickly through new technologies. (LA Times)

    “California agriculture just isn’t going to look the same,” said Ed Taylor, a UC Davis rural economist. “You’re going to be hard-pressed to find crops grown as labor-intensively as they are now.”

    “We don’t see — no matter what happens — that the labor problem will be solved,” said Soren Bjorn, president of Driscoll’s of the Americas.

    “We’ve been masking this problem all these years with a system that basically allowed you to accept fraudulent documents as legal, and that’s what has been keeping this workforce going,” said Steve Scaroni, whose Fresh Harvest company is among the biggest recruiters of farm labor. “And now we find out we don’t have much of a labor force up here, at least a legal one.”

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    @Anonymous

    Yeah this seems like a tough nut to crack, Soren. I have no economics degrees, but if I'm not mistaken, there are these things called "labor demand," "labor supply," and "markets."

    From my old Econ 101 I recall that goods and services can be purchased through this "market" thing. I believe you could simply purchase labor supply with money. What do I know, maybe it's worth a try though? I sure would hate to give up eating lettuce and tomatoes (of course the tomatoes I eat come from a farm 30 miles down the road and I'm not sure they are picked by Mexicans, as crazy as that sounds!!).

    , @Alden
    @Anonymous

    I drive through the San Juaquin valley several times a year. Try recruiting those 3rd generation Mexicans loitering around the towns. They are all legal.

    The only time I ever see people actually working in the fields is in Ventura county during strawberry season.

    Maybe the leaves hide the pickers in the orchards. But in the fields I never see anyone. Planting is done by a couple guys and a big machine. Then nothing for months until harvest, again a couple guys and a big machine.

    You can plant 500 acres in a week and harvest them in 6 weeks. The crop duster planes take care of the weeds. Plus all these decades of herbicides have pretty much killed off all the weeds and their seeds. So vegetables only need workers 7 weeks of the year.

    Rice is planted by planes scattering the seeds about. Instead of transplanting like Asians do, they just keep flooding and draining the paddies.

    They even have machines to prune the fruit trees and vines after harvest.

  86. @Hindoo
    Dearest Mr. Sailer,

    I have a cost effective plan to identify various cognitive classes among America-dwellers.

    My plan is based on the remarkable findings of the venerable J. Philippe Rushton to whom, I believe, you and your erudite audience would need no introduction.

    Since it's scientific un-PC hatefact that penis size is inversely proportional to IQ, with the latter being the essence of the phenomenal universe, we can safely say LongSchlongers are expendable while TinyWieners are valuable.

    Based on this premise, I propose to replace SAT/GRE with a much cheaper test of fellatability.

    Yes, that's right. FELLATABILITY.

    Basically, students requiring admission to schools and colleges would be required to be fellated by a prostitute* and his eligibility would be decided by how difficult it is for that woman**.

    There will be five grades of people based on the fellatability of their tool:

    A - Can't even be fellated.
    B - Deepthroating not possible as toll doesn't reach the throat.
    C - Can easily be deepthroated.
    D - Deepthroating requires visits to hospital.
    E - Attempts to deepthroat means certain death.

    E will immediately be sterilized.
    D will become burger flippers.
    C will become USCIS employee.
    B will go to law school.
    A will be the technocratic elite.

    *This will be perfectly legal. Just trust me.
    **Since LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ are part of the coalition of fringes, we'll make sure gay dudes get punished by being fellated by women.

    Replies: @Antonin Chigurh, @unpc downunder, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    LOL

  87. @Mark Caplan
    Startled police officer Mohamed Noor was the eldest of ten children.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux, @Lurker, @dr kill

    I know, right? How many many loud noises do you think he heard with 26 Somalis living in 3 rooms? What a story. I deserve a a gold box for this observation. Just the praying had to be ear splitting five times a day.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @dr kill

    According to a neighbor Noor is so sensitive to noise he spent a lot of time screaming at the kids in the playground to shut up.

  88. @Charles Pewitt
    @Charles Pewitt

    Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton pushes mass immigration, amnesty for illegal aliens and REFUGEE OVERLOAD.


    Governor Mark Dayton is a richboy weasel who wants to pauperize and terrorize Minnesotans by using mass immigration as a demographic and economic weapon. Governor Dayton is a plutocratic bastard who enjoys using mass immigration to make the lives of Minnesotans miserable.

    This Tweet is from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/backlon/status/666960819683508224

    Evil plutocrats such as Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton who push nation-wrecking mass immigration are treasonous rats of the worst sort. Governor Mark Dayton is deliberately attacking regular Minnesotans by using mass immigration to destroy cultural cohesion and AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION in Minnesota.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    This comment has somehow been garbled from what I submitted to how it appears under the blog. It appears as I wrote it in my archive. I used no block quotes and it is missing a Tweet. It appears to suggest Dayton said something that I wrote.

  89. @JackOH
    “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.

    Argumentative brutalism is a commonplace among moneyed, established elites and their paid lackeys in the academy, journalism, and corporate lobbies. Cherry-picked facts, any ol' assertions of convenience or expedience, my way or the highway. Their often excellent educations end up as ornamental, essentially acting as camouflage for raw power-grabbing. See President Bush and Iraq II. We pick up the pieces for these political adventurers after they finish with their marauding.

    There's a Canadian guy, author of something called Voltaire's Bastards (?), who's done good work criticizing the modern cult of faux rationality, which gives the unwarranted impression that primal passions, such as family, community, nation, and so on, are no longer important.

    Replies: @guest, @Desiderius

    “There’s a Canadian guy, author of something called Voltaire’s Bastards (?), who’s done good work criticizing the modern cult of faux rationality”

    John Ralston Saul. I know nothing about him but what I learned from Voltaire’s Bastards, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he were one of Them (globalist progressive liberals, or whatever). His book probably got wide distribution because at its foundation it’s a good citizenship type thing, and saves its big guns for things the ruling class is comfortable criticizing, like the Military Industrial Complex.

    However, it’s dangerously subversive, if you read it correctly. Moreso than the games played by post-modernists, deconstructivists, and other popular schools critiquing rationality. Which no one takes seriously, despite the salaries we afford them. Voltaire’s Bastards is full of actual history and is anti-Narrative in the extreme, short of being reactionary.

    Its target is the Managerial State and the technocratic elite. Which other mainstream books, not counting conspiracy theories, barely admit exist. Or do so in a facile “counterculture” manner. Voltaire’s Bastards stands and in a distinguished line with books by authors like James Burnham, Paul Gottfried, Bruce Charlton, and James Kalb, which go to the heart of PC darkness. Not by talking about lizard people, but by arranging obvious stuff, as well as stuff you’ve never heard of, in unfamiliar and striking patterns.

    True patterns, it must be said, at least up to a point. Because there are plenty of false ways to rearrange history since the Enlightenment to “prove” reason is a sham. Foucault couldn’t do it. This guy’s on the mark.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    @guest

    guest, thanks. "However, it’s dangerously subversive, if you read it correctly." Yep, that's how I saw it, too. I think you're right that Saul is likely more on the global, techno, liberal side. I recall being sort of shaken up because of his real-world specificity, not at all the fuzzy "intersectionality" and what-not you read from some folks.

    I'd recommend the book to anyone who still believes smart folks in think tanks and the academy have the latest answer du jour for what ails us. There's a lot of raw, primal passion--salaries, careers, public attention, budgets, and so on--that undergirds the fine polysyllables and glib "rationalist" arguments of policy recommendations. Thanks again.

  90. How can Target sell more toilet paper without Minnesota taxpayers paying to import the surplus population of the Mad Max zones of the Horn of Africa?

    Dumping Ex-Lax into the water supply?

  91. OT but part of our world.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Cagey Beast

    And this is what Emma "Mattress Girl" has become and why the “coastal elites” and “A+” intellects have no connection to “B+” Americans and only serve to poison the well.

    http://www.emmasulkowicz.com/the-ship-is-sinking/

    http://www.emmasulkowicz.com/emma-and-violet/

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA

  92. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/vdare/status/888452722000896003

    Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton has health problems to go along with his hatred of regular Minnesotans. Governor Dayton is not well; in this January, 2017 video he collapses while delivering the state of the state speech:

    https://youtu.be/Pi7WSv3NCCE

    Replies: @BB753, @Mr. Anon, @Alden

    I’m shocked Dayton hasn’t resigned yet and given his job to a more deserving Somali.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @BB753

    And he has so much in common with them:

    Beauty, perspicacity, vision for the future.

    , @Stealth
    @BB753

    Although jesting, you actually raise a very good point.

    An atheist friend of mine once told me that if Christians really believed their loved ones were going to hell, they would give up everything and spend every waking moment saving souls, but they don't.

    In the same way, SJW's and other white liberal scolds almost never make deliberate personal sacrifices for the cause of righting the injustices they think are being heaped on America's nonwhite populations. Shouldn't they be donating all of their ill-gotten wealth to POC's and moving, penniless, to some European country in an effort to undo colonization of the Americas?

    On the contrary, some of them benefit handsomely from doing their part to combat the scourge of white privilege. Tim Wise, for instance, earns a damn good living as an activist working against the interests of his own people. Given his ideology, you would think that Tim, realizing how swell his own life was from the moment of conception, and that his personal gravy train was built on the backs African Americans and other nonwhites, would have given up some of his inherited advantages, but nope, he manages to fight on behalf of black follks AND enrich himself at the same time. It's like going downhill both ways.

    Replies: @AM

  93. CCZ says:
    @Alden
    @Rod1963

    EBT cards may be why Target has installed big grocery departments offering food about 20 to 30 percent less than the supermarket a block away.

    I was in one recently and took a good look at the towels, bath mats bedspreads lamps vases and women's and children's clothes.

    They were all really bad quality, much lower than similar price Macy's and much lower price Ross. The towels were very stiff and coarse.
    The women's and children's clothes were made of coarse cheap cloth, almost like Halloween costume cloth.
    The women's section had an unusually large stock of "women's" X XX and XXX
    Sizes. X is 250 pds average height XX is 300pds and XXX is 350 to 500 pds.

    And most of the summer tops in the X section were sleeveless scoop neck. Gross, imagine those blubbery arms, backs, chests, and triple chins.

    And of course there is not one White employee in the store.

    Replies: @CCZ, @MBlanc46, @Lucas McCrudy

    From 2007, but likely still very relevant today:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17665989/ns/business-us_business/t/target-shifts-muslims-who-wont-ring-pork/#.WXJecVGQyUk

    MINNEAPOLIS — Muslim cashiers at some local Target stores who object to ringing up products that contain pork are being shifted to other positions where they don’t need to, the discount retailer said Saturday.

    The Star Tribune reported this past week that some Muslim cashiers at local Targets had declined to scan pork products such as bacon because doing so would conflict with their religious beliefs. They would ask other cashiers to ring up such purchases, or sometimes customers would scan those items themselves, the newspaper reported.

    Minneapolis-based Target Corp. has now offered its local Muslim cashiers who object to handling pork the option of wearing gloves while cashiering, shifting to other positions or transferring to other nearby stores.

    Worker Walks Over Issue

    Muse Dahir told the AP this past week he quit his job at the Sam’s Club in Bloomington [Minnesota] after he was transferred from another position to cashiering and was ordered to ring up pork purchases.

    Several times on his first day as a cashier, Dahir said, said customers brought pork products to his register. He asked them to take their goods to another register, and a customer complained to management.

    “They told me, you have to check this,” Dahir said. “I told them, I can’t do this. You want me to do something that’s against my religion.”

    Dahir said a manager told him that was part of the job, so “I just put down my uniform and I left.”

    He said it doesn’t matter if the pork product is packaged. “Even if you just sell it to someone, you break a promise to Allah,” he said.

    Good thing Target doesn’t have any Christian cashiers who refuse to ring up those homosexual couples’ wedding cakes!!

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @pepperinmono
    @CCZ

    Perfect analogy!

    Off topic:

    Trump needs to fire Mueller and pardon everyone with a new slogan:
    " Taking Off The Gloves".

    It seems clear to me the deep state is baiting Trump to do just that, allowing Republicans to vote for impeachment.
    I think he should take the bait.
    Let's tee it up motherfuckers.
    Think it's a fight Trump can win if done correctly.
    Rush and Hannity and Alt- right and base would be on board .
    This is a distraction from building the Wall.
    He's got nothing to lose at this point.
    His presidency will be consumed by the Russia fake news if nothing changes.

  94. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    During my weekly shopping peregrination I visit around 10 stores (Lowes, Target, Walgreen, Walmart….. The only one that is always crowded, where all the checkout lines (up to 10 in this case) have at least 3-4 customers in queue is COSTCO. Walmart grocery does OK also, but not as well as COSTCO. Though I don’t know why they do well at all. Their produce section is full of stale fruit and vegetables. All the other stores are eerily sparsely filled.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Daniel H

    Costco isn't really the place for produce. My local one is always jammed. I order most of my Costco stuff online -- they have free shipping, and you avoid the hassle of going to the store. They don't ship their mouthwash though, so when I run through 4.5 liters of it, every few months I have to go into the local store and buy more.

  95. @Flip
    Even politically correct Scandinavians in Minnesota and Sweden will wake up at some point.

    Replies: @Daniel H

    >>Even politically correct Scandinavians in Minnesota and Sweden will wake up at some point.

    One hopes, but I don’t know about that.

  96. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The problem is that this guy is simply too stupid to be doing it for the money. First, he was never interested in business. Secondly, his family wealth is controlled by a family office. Thirdly, he has had a miserable career as a would be reformer.

    And, his health is awful. Check out his wikipedia page.

    He is a recovering alcoholic and has been treated for mild depression.[74] He revealed this information on his own initiative, saying he felt “people have the right to know.”[74]

    In December 2012, Dayton underwent vertebral fusion surgery at the Mayo Clinic to treat his spinal stenosis.[75] On June 25, 2013, Dayton had to cancel an appearance due to a muscle tear.[76] On January 31, 2016, Dayton fainted while speaking at a campaign event in Woodbury, Minnesota. He was hospitalized overnight.[77]

    On January 23, 2017, Dayton collapsed while giving the State of the State address to the Minnesota Legislature. After a check by emergency medical services, he was reported to be in fine condition and was sent home the same evening.[78] The next day he announced that he had been diagnosed with prostate cancer a week earlier.[79]

    Dayton attended Yale University, where he played varsity hockey until an accident on the ice slit his throat.[10] During his time at Yale, he joined the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity, alongside later President George W. Bush and received his B.A. in psychology (cum laude) in 1969. After college, Dayton worked as teacher in the Lower East Side of New York City from 1969 to 1971, and then as the chief financial officer of a social service agency in Boston, Massachusetts from 1971 to 1975.[2]

    He could have emulated Bush and been president of a Major League Baseball team, for example. At least he was woke enough to protest the Vietnam War.

  97. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous, years ago my wife and I sat down to enjoy a cocktail on our hotel balcony overlooking the Nile at Cairo. We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump. Finished, he walked into the Nile and washed his butt. "Room Service? Two more gin and tonics to our room please."

    Replies: @Romanian, @Charles Pewitt, @Dr. X, @antipater_1

    We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump.

    I was surprised to find that open defecation is actually a “thing” that the UN-globalist types are campaigning against. Apparently it’s quite common and practiced by billions in the Third World. There’s even a Wikipedia page on it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_defecation

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Dr. X

    Dr.X, open sewers are still common in a lot of the world, but tourists rarely travel through those parts of the country. Tour companies and their tour guides want repeat business, so safe and scenic is best.

  98. @Dr. X

    “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.
     
    The problem is that those "white, B+ Minnesota-born citizens" that Gov. Dayton so condescendingly sniggers at are the very same people who put him into office. They elected him to the Senate and twice as governor. They've had plenty of opportunity to kick him to the political curb, but they haven't.

    What can you say about people who vote multiple times for a guy who then proceeds to mock and insult them and side with immigrants and foreigners? Maybe he's right about them being stupid and second-rate, after all...

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    I can see how Dems always win in Chicago and Cook County, where a majority of the population are black and Hispanic. But why do the whites in places such as MN keep voting for them? Chronic and acute niceness? The despicableness of the national GOP might have something to do with it, too.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @MBlanc46

    Check out Bob LaFollete's Farmer Labor Party. Minnesota, like Wisconsin is or was primarily mid and late 19th century German and Scandinavian working class socialists. The WOBBLIES and other radicals were very strong in those states.

    Mayor Hodges is not a democrat. She is a member of the Democratic Farmer Labor party, a descendant of LaFollete's party.

    Minnesota went from moderate socialism for working people to lunatic liberalism.
    When a political party achieves a goal, such as generous farm subsidies and good wages for humdrum jobs, it has to find new causes, and as each objective is achieved the party looks for a new cause.
    The Lutheran church is in it for the money. The liberals are in it for power.

    If liberals get behind on finding new causes they lose. God only knows what the next gay cause will be. My guess is lowering the age of consent to 14 then 12 then 10 and right down to infancy. Some states are criminalizing FMG. Minnesota is so crazy it might make it mandatory for everyone some day.

  99. @George
    Hey iSteve, the good(white) folks at ProPublica have a nifty graph of the effect of immigration viagra on the US economy. Just add more of the purple people and see what happens. Whoop whoop whoop. Next graph, why Afghanistan is worth a trillion dollars to the US economy because minerals.

    The Immigration Effect

    There’s a Way for President Trump to Boost the Economy by Four Percent, But He Probably Won’t Like It.

    By Lena Groeger, ProPublica. July 19, 2017

    http://projects.propublica.org/graphics/gdp

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    Fairly far down in the article these bozos briefly mention that there are a whole bunch of social, economic and fiscal externalities associated with immigrants. This means that on average every immigrant imposes significant costs on the economy and these costs are shifted entirely to native born citizens. The authors concede that these costs are large but choose not to compute them because it would be too difficult. They fail to acknowledge that doing so would also sink their argument.

    Also notice that these jerks are talking about gross GDP, not GDP per capita. If a country is importing people who on average have lower productivity than current citizens, it’s obvious to anyone with a brain that ceteris paribus this lowers per capita GDP.

    It would appear that mainstream economists are just as adept at churning out squid ink as their fakes news MSM comrades.

  100. @Alden
    @Rod1963

    EBT cards may be why Target has installed big grocery departments offering food about 20 to 30 percent less than the supermarket a block away.

    I was in one recently and took a good look at the towels, bath mats bedspreads lamps vases and women's and children's clothes.

    They were all really bad quality, much lower than similar price Macy's and much lower price Ross. The towels were very stiff and coarse.
    The women's and children's clothes were made of coarse cheap cloth, almost like Halloween costume cloth.
    The women's section had an unusually large stock of "women's" X XX and XXX
    Sizes. X is 250 pds average height XX is 300pds and XXX is 350 to 500 pds.

    And most of the summer tops in the X section were sleeveless scoop neck. Gross, imagine those blubbery arms, backs, chests, and triple chins.

    And of course there is not one White employee in the store.

    Replies: @CCZ, @MBlanc46, @Lucas McCrudy

    Target used to have a bit of cachet for being upmarket for a discount store. If the one near me is representative, they’ve decided to go the K-Mart route.

  101. @Charles Pewitt
    Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton pushes mass immigration, amnesty for illegal aliens and REFUGEE OVERLOAD.

    Governor Mark Dayton is a richboy weasel who wants to pauperize and terrorize Minnesotans by using mass immigration as a demographic and economic weapon. Governor Dayton is a plutocratic bastard who enjoys using mass immigration to make the lives of Minnesotans miserable.

    This Tweet is from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/backlon/status/666960819683508224

    Evil plutocrats such as Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton who push nation-wrecking mass immigration are treasonous rats of the worst sort. Governor Mark Dayton is deliberately attacking regular Minnesotans by using mass immigration to destroy cultural cohesion and AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION in Minnesota.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Thea

    Very reminiscent of what Nu Labour did to Britain. Treasonous Tony left his mark and that nation will never be the same.

  102. @TGGP
    I would be primed to roll my eyes as Governor Dayton, but his statements on this case seem fairly responsible. There's really no need for some higher authority to jump in at this point in the investigation.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Jus' Sayin'...

    I’m waiting for Donald Trump to Twitter, “I have a daughter and she looks a lot like Justine Damond.”

    Then the SJWs will all jump in, weeping, wailing, gnashing teeth, and explaining that BO’s use of the subjunctive in a similar statement obviously eliminated the corrosive racism they have found in President Trump’s

  103. @Sid
    @Ex-banker

    It's an arms-race between demographics and decucking. Ultimately, it would be for the best if we didn't live in a society full of Third Worlders and pissed off, hostile whites.

    My own preference is to live with nice white people who don't have much reason to be angry. It's currently politically expedient, even necessary, to tap into the anger white North Americans and Europeans have about losing their cultural heritage and national birthright, but I'd prefer for the reasons why we're mad to not be here.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    I’d also rather not be angry, especially in my old age. But we don’t always get what we want.

  104. Sid says:
    @The Only Catholic Unionist
    @Sid

    No, they themselves are not, but it enhances the "margin of fraud" that Donks have in blue states. (Devoted readers will recall Norm Coleman won the Senate seat that Al Franken currently occupies, but not by the margin of fraud, so the decent people of Minnesota are now represented in the Senate by a man of whom there is a picture of him as an adult in a diaper.)

    Replies: @Sid, @anonn

    Right. There might not be enough Somalis in Minnesota to give the Democrats an insuperable advantage there (as is the case with Mexicans and other immigrant groups in California), but they give the Democrats much more breathing room, especially in close races. And at any rate, we can expect the Democrats to be hard at work to get more Somalis in, promise them gibmedats for votes, and then call you racist while they bus them from stop to stop on election day.

  105. AM says:
    @anonymous-antimarxist
    Off topic worthy of up post.

    I have to say I have championed this for years and I am glad somewhere it is finally being implemented.

    Of course the left is going to have a massive case of the vapors as this gets out. Imagine their shock if opinions polls show the majority of American scream "AMEN It is about time!!!!"

    If I did not see it on the CNN website I would have thought it was an Alt-Right fantasy troll.

    Tennessee county inmates get reduced jail time for getting a vasectomy
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/us/white-county-inmate-vasectomy-trnd/index.html

    (CNN)Yes, you read that right. Inmates in White County, Tennessee, can shave 30 days off their jail sentence if they undergo an elective birth control procedure.

    Both male and female inmates can volunteer for the new program. Women receive a Nexplanon implant in their arm, which provides up to three years of continuous birth control. Men undergo a vasectomy. The procedures are free and conducted by the Tennessee Department of Health.
     

    Replies: @AM

    Imagine their shock if opinions polls show the majority of American scream “AMEN It is about time!!!!”.

    Sterilization under duress strikes me as one of those Pyrrhic victories. Playing or least shadowboxing God just never, ever turns out the way you want.

    The Nexplanon implant is only temporary. ( I’m assuming here that eugenics is still the goal here). What’s to stop the woman from taking it out, once she’s out? Hormone type sterilization can really mess with a woman’s overall health. 6 months from now, she’s got headaches/weight gain/etc. Go the MD with legitimate health issues and get it removed.

    The most you’re gonna get out of this is letting out guys a little earlywho were going to get a vasectomy anyway. Except now they have no next to no reason to think twice about sexual promiscuity, if that was part of their issues. And certainly people who are mostly thinking about their next hook up are always busy building great societies. sigh

  106. Minnesota looks great on paper (test scores, etc.), but it’s a poorly run state. The freeway bridge that fell into the Mississippi ten years ago was in downtown Minneapolis, not Memphis or New Orleans.

  107. Coastline does not equal border.

  108. e says:
    @jim jones
    Borders expose Biology, Politicians need to remove borders to obscure this inconvenient truth.

    Replies: @e

    Borders expose Biology, Politicians need to remove borders to obscure this inconvenient truth.

    I’d say just the opposite. As long as people who are very different from one another don’t actually live with one another, people operate under the happy but silly assumption that all humans are the same.

    Thrown together by removing borders, they soon discover that no, they are not.

  109. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @TomSchmidt
    @Anonymous

    In the past couple of weeks there’s been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    Do tell. I'm guessing you're near Dover, DE.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alden

    Maryland. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago and then last week my wife asked what was going on. Last weekend I asked a neighbor if he knew what was going on as pairs of different fighter aircraft flew over, heading somewhere. He said, “Wasting our tax dollars.”

    Could be nothing, but as I said, the last time I saw a similar pattern was in late 2002, right before the Iraq war.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Anonymous

    Ah. Let's hope it's just gratuitous waste of taxpayer dollars.

  110. @Charles Pewitt
    @Buffalo Joe


    More interestingly, the gin and tonic has a storied history that places it at the heart of the largest empire the world has ever known. Indeed, it is not too much of a stretch to say that the gin and tonic was as essential a weapon for the British Empire as the Gatling gun.

     


    No less an authority on imperial power than Winston Churchill once declared, “The gin and tonic has saved more Englishmen’s lives, and minds, than all the doctors in the Empire.”

     

    The above is from this article:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/foreigners/2013/08/gin_and_tonic_kept_the_british_empire_healthy_the_drink_s_quinine_powder.html

    Let us not forget the India Pale Ale. That ale was made in such a way that it stayed fresh on the ocean voyage to India and other various parts of the British Empire.

    QUININE

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Cortes

    Charles, Thank you for my lesson of the day, even though I am currently enjoying a Moscow Mule, damn those Russians, and not a Gin and tonic. Put a drink on my tab. And before I get a reply, I know Moscow Mules are not a Russian drink.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Buffalo Joe

    Based on your Cairo experience, if you decide on a trip to India, prepare to have those room service G&Ts on speed dial.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  111. @Romanian
    @Buffalo Joe

    Bigot! You should have approached him then and there to see how you can help him get a visa! Another valuable American lost before he could contribute to the Economy!

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Romanian, seeing this was years ago I will assume that he and his family are all here in the US. His expertise in fertilization probably won him an HB1 visa.

  112. @Boethiuss
    @27 year old



    Bull shit, the FBI civil rights division and department of homeland security should be coming down on murderer slash terrorist Mohamed Noor like a ton of bricks.
     
    Well, why can't we do this? Oh yeah, Donald Trump is President and he trashes everybody who's ever worked for him (eg, the latest Jeff Sessions episode). So the FBI, the Civil Rights Division, the rest of the DOJ, they all have the same SJW's who were there before. But by all means we should be sticking by Trump.

    Replies: @Difference maker, @Jack Hanson

    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn’t pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us “Trump can’t win”.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Jack Hanson



    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn’t pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us “Trump can’t win”.
     
    O rly? I "changed" my name because this is the only handle where unz.com software accepts my comments. Apparently for Jack my "ridiculous" predictions were the assertion that Trump was going to lose in the fall, which even if it was wrong hardly seems ridiculous, either then or now.

    But even then, my main beef was "What if he wins?" which if anything is more relevant now than then.

    A lot of people here at iSteve, including Jack, want to think that Trump is their guy and try to stand behind him. That might be superficially plausible if you agree with the Trump worldview, but if you look at things in any detail it's not helping us.

    A long time ago and a galaxy far away, the psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler Ross invented the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. I don't know if any of you have noticed, but none of our Left adversaries have moved one inch past anger. The idea that Trump is President and they have accommodate that as best as they can, that's getting no traction at all.

    For the Democrats and media in Washington and the Left outside Washington, there's this big buildup toward some culmination where Trump is finally humiliated or impeached, and in the mean time we're living in some kind of weird regency where we let Trump sit in the Oval Office but really it's HR McMaster, Ryan, Comey, Mueller and some random judge in Hawaii who really call the shots.

    I wish I could say that they're wrong but I'm not sure that they are. Jack really should be working for the Trump Administration. And if he were, he'd be bitching to the NYT for two hours a day at least, just like Ivanka, Sessions, Bannon, Priebus, etc are doing now. Whatever his problems are with his sergeant at the Arizona Highway Patrol, or whatever agency he works for, the Trump Administration is ten times worse. We know this because of the people who support Trump and have gone to work for Trump have been telling us in the media.

    Trump won't believe his own people who he hired when they tell him whatever. He only believes what he reads in the NYT. So his people leak all their shit to the NYT, so maybe then Trump will finally believe it and do something.

    Frankly, we're way better off with "cucks, RINOs, GOPe, neocons" all the other swear words people use to describe Republicans other than Trump.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @AM, @anonguy

    , @Difference maker
    @Jack Hanson

    I bet Boethiuss is Bill Kristol

    , @Autochthon
    @Jack Hanson

    You adore predictions. Please predict for us all when Donald Trump is going to implement a single one of his promises made whilst campaigning: repeal of the so-called DACA, beginning construction of a wall on the Mexican border, disentanglement from foreign military adventures not implicating the security of what used to be the U.S.A., and end to NAFTA and similar agreements destroying American jobs, removal of entrenched political hacks in his administration, appointment of rational and moral judges....

  113. @Hindoo
    Dearest Mr. Sailer,

    I have a cost effective plan to identify various cognitive classes among America-dwellers.

    My plan is based on the remarkable findings of the venerable J. Philippe Rushton to whom, I believe, you and your erudite audience would need no introduction.

    Since it's scientific un-PC hatefact that penis size is inversely proportional to IQ, with the latter being the essence of the phenomenal universe, we can safely say LongSchlongers are expendable while TinyWieners are valuable.

    Based on this premise, I propose to replace SAT/GRE with a much cheaper test of fellatability.

    Yes, that's right. FELLATABILITY.

    Basically, students requiring admission to schools and colleges would be required to be fellated by a prostitute* and his eligibility would be decided by how difficult it is for that woman**.

    There will be five grades of people based on the fellatability of their tool:

    A - Can't even be fellated.
    B - Deepthroating not possible as toll doesn't reach the throat.
    C - Can easily be deepthroated.
    D - Deepthroating requires visits to hospital.
    E - Attempts to deepthroat means certain death.

    E will immediately be sterilized.
    D will become burger flippers.
    C will become USCIS employee.
    B will go to law school.
    A will be the technocratic elite.

    *This will be perfectly legal. Just trust me.
    **Since LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ are part of the coalition of fringes, we'll make sure gay dudes get punished by being fellated by women.

    Replies: @Antonin Chigurh, @unpc downunder, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    The LGBTs are part of the right liberal/left liberal alliance, the non-binaries are agitating to get into the alliance but haven’t been accepted. They’re simply too left wing. Big business likes gay fashion designers and transsexual CEOs and athletes, it doesn’t like androgynous leftists who are unemployable outside of the SJW movement.

  114. @Bleuteaux
    @Mark Caplan

    Yeah. Tell me how Minneapolis doesn't go majority Somali by 2050?

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    >Assuming that it all hasn’t come apart by 2030

  115. The year I was born, the governor of Minnesota graced the cover of Time.

    According to this 30th anniversary piece, the Time article included these excerpts:

    “Blacks rioted in Minneapolis in 1966 and 1967, but with only 1 percent of the state’s population, they have not yet forced Minnesotans into any serious racial confrontation…After the 1967 riots, in the intelligently direct style of most Minnesota politics, businessmen, civil rights leaders and educators met to organize the first Urban Coalition chapter in the country…Says Gleason Glover, executive director of the Minneapolis Urban League: “For a black, Minneapolis is one of the truly outstanding cities in the U.S. to live in.

    “Arthur Naftalin, a brilliant mayor of Minneapolis during the ’60s, points out that no single group — ethnic, religious or business — has ever been able to take control of the state. There were no Tammany machines to greet the immigrants. ‘With our great variety,’ says Naftalin, ‘we have always had to form coalitions…’”

    http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2003/08/12_cunninghamg_timemag/

  116. Jack Hanson says:
    @anonymous
    @Rod1963


    Big picture. We’re dying as a country.
     
    This is just dumb, Jack Hanson needs to straighten you out!

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    I’ve never disagreed with that statement, brave anonymous.

    Just the blackpilled eeyores who consistently claim every Trump action is The Worst Ever. At worst, Trump has bought us time. At best he drop kicked the Overton Window enough that we might fix this mess.

    I don’t exoect someone scared to use a pseudonym to even show up to the future tho.

  117. @eddy wobegon
    Try viewing some video of Mark Dayton in the past few years. He must be under some serious psychotropic medication. I believe he is still suffering from daddy issues.

    Replies: @EriK

    Re: Mark Dayton

    • Replies: @EriK
    @EriK

    bad link? I can't tell. sorry if so Steve

  118. @Barnard
    @George

    It sounds like Rep. Omar wants to take guns away from the police. Her solution of training police not to act out of fear would be much more feasible in a society made up of homogeneous, first world residents. You know, like Minnesota used to be before the Somalis invaded and diversity became our state religion.

    Replies: @George

    “before the Somalis invaded and diversity became our state religion.”

    The somalis did not invade. We invaded, then invited them.

    She also might be speaking against the militarization of the police, or even dog whistling about using Israeli training for American police.

  119. @Anonymous
    Do Somalis even use toilet paper? I think hand + water is the custom there.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @bored identity

    It’s called a poor man’s bidet, you…hater.

    Wuz inveneted by Kangz more then 5000 years ago!

  120. @CCZ
    @Alden

    From 2007, but likely still very relevant today:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17665989/ns/business-us_business/t/target-shifts-muslims-who-wont-ring-pork/#.WXJecVGQyUk


    MINNEAPOLIS — Muslim cashiers at some local Target stores who object to ringing up products that contain pork are being shifted to other positions where they don’t need to, the discount retailer said Saturday.

    The Star Tribune reported this past week that some Muslim cashiers at local Targets had declined to scan pork products such as bacon because doing so would conflict with their religious beliefs. They would ask other cashiers to ring up such purchases, or sometimes customers would scan those items themselves, the newspaper reported.

    Minneapolis-based Target Corp. has now offered its local Muslim cashiers who object to handling pork the option of wearing gloves while cashiering, shifting to other positions or transferring to other nearby stores.

    Worker Walks Over Issue

    Muse Dahir told the AP this past week he quit his job at the Sam’s Club in Bloomington [Minnesota] after he was transferred from another position to cashiering and was ordered to ring up pork purchases.

    Several times on his first day as a cashier, Dahir said, said customers brought pork products to his register. He asked them to take their goods to another register, and a customer complained to management.

    “They told me, you have to check this,” Dahir said. “I told them, I can’t do this. You want me to do something that’s against my religion.”

    Dahir said a manager told him that was part of the job, so “I just put down my uniform and I left.”

    He said it doesn’t matter if the pork product is packaged. “Even if you just sell it to someone, you break a promise to Allah,” he said.

     

    Good thing Target doesn't have any Christian cashiers who refuse to ring up those homosexual couples' wedding cakes!!

    Replies: @pepperinmono

    Perfect analogy!

    Off topic:

    Trump needs to fire Mueller and pardon everyone with a new slogan:
    ” Taking Off The Gloves”.

    It seems clear to me the deep state is baiting Trump to do just that, allowing Republicans to vote for impeachment.
    I think he should take the bait.
    Let’s tee it up motherfuckers.
    Think it’s a fight Trump can win if done correctly.
    Rush and Hannity and Alt- right and base would be on board .
    This is a distraction from building the Wall.
    He’s got nothing to lose at this point.
    His presidency will be consumed by the Russia fake news if nothing changes.

  121. @The Only Catholic Unionist
    @Sid

    No, they themselves are not, but it enhances the "margin of fraud" that Donks have in blue states. (Devoted readers will recall Norm Coleman won the Senate seat that Al Franken currently occupies, but not by the margin of fraud, so the decent people of Minnesota are now represented in the Senate by a man of whom there is a picture of him as an adult in a diaper.)

    Replies: @Sid, @anonn

    Did David Vitter switch parties?

  122. @EriK
    @eddy wobegon

    Re: Mark Dayton

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo

    Replies: @EriK

    bad link? I can’t tell. sorry if so Steve

  123. @Anonymous
    @Rod1963


    Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t.
     
    I've been getting that feeling, that we're dying as a country. Our demise appears to be- as they say in economics- increasing at an increasing rate. But I think we're ready to hasten our decline even further. I think we're gearing up for a major military adventure. In the past couple of weeks there's been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    Replies: @Detective Club, @TomSchmidt, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    I’ve been getting that feeling, that we’re dying as a country.

    That is a libtard sentiment. Lie down until it subsides.

  124. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    Big picture. We’re dying as a country.

    No, we are not. We will have to reconfigure, but we will not die. Any corporation relying on EBT traffic will die. The stupid liberal model will be replaced. The only question is how ugly will it be?

  125. @anonguy

    http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/justine-damonds-shooter-officer-mohamed-noor-cast-out-by-minneapolis-police-department/news-story/f333feea868f917497fbed27af9bd0df
     
    I love telling you guys I told you so. MPD tosses Noor under the bus. At the end of the day, LBGT* chief proves dragnet-worthy, casts a bad officer to his fate despite the prevailing political predelictions to do otherwise

    America will survive, the system works, no? Maybe diversitronic police chiefs can get the job done as you revanchists would like to see it done.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Alden

    I love telling you guys I told you so.

    Whom are you directing your post to?

    America will survive, the system works, no?

    America will survive? Yes. The system works? No. (cf, innocent Yoga instructor murdered by a halfwit.)

  126. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The woman police Chief of Minneapolis Harteau, just resigned, after being asked to resign by Mayor Betsy Hodges.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-police-chief-says-australian-woman-justine-damond-didnt-have-to-die/news-story/0b94366d129edf39f468eca5cc8407dc

    One of her “accomplishments” – increasing their overall department diversity. This 68er has done a great job employing some IQ 68ers. Heckuva job, Chief!

    https://twitter.com/MinneapolisPD/status/888532301205786624/photo/1

    Murdoch’s news.com.au, normally very much on the left re: immigration and race realism, has had several stories on blacks behaving badly today.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/marvyn-iheanacho-jailed-for-fatal-punishment-beating-of-fiveyearold-stepson/news-story/da32b005a91bc41538bb87e4c70b0c1b

    http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/five-teens-film-and-mock-disabled-man-as-he-drowns-in-florida-lake/news-story/8dcca0a3c04e5451b574e010d03b11c4

  127. @guest
    Dayton invariably sounds drunk. It's obvious he's mentally ill, and I don't say that about all politicians I dislike. Even Jesse Ventura, who has let his mind go with his waistline, is 90% act. Dayton is the real deal. He may be a legitimate crazy person in need of hospitalization.

    Is there any other head of state who sits in office literally because of his name, and no other reason? It's as if since 2011 we decided collectively that the governorship doesn't matter, and we can afford to have a stuffed animal mascot as placeholder.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    The Illinois Democratic primary contest for Governor next year will be between a Kennedy and a scion of the Pritzker fanily which owns the Hyatt hotels.

  128. Friday news dump MPD chief resigns

  129. @Charles Pewitt
    @Buffalo Joe


    More interestingly, the gin and tonic has a storied history that places it at the heart of the largest empire the world has ever known. Indeed, it is not too much of a stretch to say that the gin and tonic was as essential a weapon for the British Empire as the Gatling gun.

     


    No less an authority on imperial power than Winston Churchill once declared, “The gin and tonic has saved more Englishmen’s lives, and minds, than all the doctors in the Empire.”

     

    The above is from this article:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/foreigners/2013/08/gin_and_tonic_kept_the_british_empire_healthy_the_drink_s_quinine_powder.html

    Let us not forget the India Pale Ale. That ale was made in such a way that it stayed fresh on the ocean voyage to India and other various parts of the British Empire.

    QUININE

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Cortes

    India Pale Ale was designed to survive the voyage East from Scotland and still be drinkable. Its name used to be subtitled in my younger days but the headline name in domestic sales was Export. On cans of “export” there was an image of a Charles II style cavalier with the legend ” India Pale Ale” framing the portrait.

  130. @BB753
    @Charles Pewitt

    I'm shocked Dayton hasn't resigned yet and given his job to a more deserving Somali.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Stealth

    And he has so much in common with them:

    Beauty, perspicacity, vision for the future.

  131. @Gman
    Steve,

    One way we can increase toilet paper sales is having more immigrants from Djibouti

    Replies: @Stealth

    One way we can increase toilet paper sales is having more immigrants from Djibouti

    I seen what you did there.

  132. @TomSchmidt
    @Rod1963

    "Big picture. We’re dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy – which it won’t."

    It's entropy writ large. Sure, the importation of unskilled workers will make things worse for the overall population, but it will improve things for a small segment of it. Diluted suffering and concentrated benefits is how we get things like sugar prices 3x world levels to support the Fanjuls in Florida. Then how we get high-fructose corn syrup to replace expensive sugar, then how we get an obesity epidemic when the fructose doesn't immediately raise blood glucose and end the craving for sugar.

    Replies: @Ivy

    Still doing my part to boycott the Fanjul machine by skipping sugar, and HFCS, too. Once you start noticing those on food labels it is shocking to see the prevalence.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Ivy

    Once you stop largely eating sweetened foods, you begin to notice how sweet things really are. I've found Rice Krispies to be WAY too sweet for me now. Anything sweeter now than the natural sweetness of fruits, offset as they are with some acids, causes me to stop eating. Good for you, Ivy.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Jack D

  133. About that toilet paper sales thing, Target already sells a whole lot of the stuff, with me as one customer (beats going into Walmart, I guess). If I knew all it would take is a steady increase in TP sales to make the corporate board happy and shut this Mark Dayton up, I would do my part. I’d go get extra 12-packs of Charmin just to roll some neighbors’s houses, if that’s what it takes to decrease the dieversity. It’s the least we could all do…. or eat more Thai food, I guess.

  134. @Buffalo Joe
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charles, Thank you for my lesson of the day, even though I am currently enjoying a Moscow Mule, damn those Russians, and not a Gin and tonic. Put a drink on my tab. And before I get a reply, I know Moscow Mules are not a Russian drink.

    Replies: @Ivy

    Based on your Cairo experience, if you decide on a trip to India, prepare to have those room service G&Ts on speed dial.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Ivy

    Ivy, a friend went to India, her comment was The smell, oh the smell."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Autochthon

  135. @BB753
    @Charles Pewitt

    I'm shocked Dayton hasn't resigned yet and given his job to a more deserving Somali.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Stealth

    Although jesting, you actually raise a very good point.

    An atheist friend of mine once told me that if Christians really believed their loved ones were going to hell, they would give up everything and spend every waking moment saving souls, but they don’t.

    In the same way, SJW’s and other white liberal scolds almost never make deliberate personal sacrifices for the cause of righting the injustices they think are being heaped on America’s nonwhite populations. Shouldn’t they be donating all of their ill-gotten wealth to POC’s and moving, penniless, to some European country in an effort to undo colonization of the Americas?

    On the contrary, some of them benefit handsomely from doing their part to combat the scourge of white privilege. Tim Wise, for instance, earns a damn good living as an activist working against the interests of his own people. Given his ideology, you would think that Tim, realizing how swell his own life was from the moment of conception, and that his personal gravy train was built on the backs African Americans and other nonwhites, would have given up some of his inherited advantages, but nope, he manages to fight on behalf of black follks AND enrich himself at the same time. It’s like going downhill both ways.

    • Replies: @AM
    @Stealth


    An atheist friend of mine once told me that if Christians really believed their loved ones were going to hell, they would give up everything and spend every waking moment saving souls, but they don’t.
     
    Atheists are such whacky, fun bunch, commenting on theology that they are hostile, assuming they understand it at all.

    A Christian can't really say if they're going to hell or not. It's sin in Catholicism to assume that you're saved. Just trying to save your own soul should be consume a great deal of your time and efforts, because it's difficult. The only thing orthodox Christianity makes clear is about salvation is that it is a tricky, complex business.

    There are Christians out there just as you describe. The vast majority of us feel that they are, in our considered opinions, probably some of the biggest jerks on the planet. That what's slaying me here. You'd hate this person who supposedly dedicated to their beliefs, rather than leaving the mysteries of life to God.

    Atheists quite often come up with a heads I win, tails you lose arguments and this is certainly one of them.
  136. @Buck Turgidson
    @Rod1963

    Maybe Steve King could slip up to MN and hold some seminars for the state's leaders on western civilization, demographics, and immigration. The MN Morons have a lot to learn.

    Replies: @Ivy

    Iowa would remind Minnesota about dragging down the curve on that proximity to the Canadian border metric.

  137. America’s “Wokest” Librarian, the always sassy April Hathcock, JD, LLM, MLIS tweets on the Mogadishapolis Killer Cop:

    April H. @AprilHathcock

    “the most innocent victim” = “bc a white woman”

    Thanks for elevating April!

  138. @Difference maker
    @Boethiuss

    Not to worry. They will all bend the knee or be purged

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    Not to worry. They will all bend the knee or be purged

    Bend the knee to Trump? As if. Trump isn’t going to purge anybody. You need henchmen to carry out a purge, and Trump doesn’t have any. Notice how Trump has been in office for six months now, and there hasn’t been any purges.

    • Replies: @AM
    @Boethiuss


    Notice how Trump has been in office for six months now, and there hasn’t been any purges.
     
    It hasn't been making headline news. Trump has been very quietly purging the bureaucracy. Sessions got rid of all the Obama lawyers.

    I think he's been using the hostility of the media by supplying them with some WWF drama to fill the headlines while he gets work done. If I'm right, he's been very clever.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  139. This just in, Mayor Hodges requested affirmative action lesbian police chief to resign which she did

    Apparently the dashboard camera was on but it only films what is in front of the car, not the doors and the inside of the car.

    Mayor Hodges and the rest of the liberals are still yapping away about no body cameras as if the turned of body cams are the only wrong doing, not the murder.

    Emphasis on the body cameras instead of the murder is an attempt to implicate Harrity.

    I’m getting an OJ feeling about this. The police won’t do anything. The county prosecutor will be under enormous pressure to not file criminal charges against Mr affirmative action moron of the year.

  140. @Thanet the Gannet
    B+ citizen - what a perfect description of the sort of good, middle class people you need to build a decent society! No?...

    Dayton's unsaid implication - it's not necessarily A+ we're importing, hey, could be C, D, E, as long as they still shop!

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Olorin

    B+ citizen – what a perfect description of the sort of good, middle class people you need to build a decent society! No?…

    Exactly. You need some genuinely smart guys to invent new stuff and move the ball forward. But B+ citizens are the bedrock that makes a society nice–prosperous, well ordered.

    Not a Minnesota guy. (Last spent any time there on Mille Lacs a few years back after an Iowa family reunion.) But I remember it as a pretty nice place back in around 1970 visiting a school friend there. Now every trip through the airport is a reminder it isn’t really Minnesota anymore.

    Hopefully some Minnesotans will organize some sort of “B+ Minnesotans for retiring A+ahole Mark Dayton” and do a solid citizen B+ sort of job.

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    @AnotherDad

    The MSP airport is truly a depressing place. 3rd world all the way.

    Replies: @Alden

  141. More from the Twin Cities. Another trigger happy cop in Minneapolis seriously wounds two Canine-Americans. Video doesn’t seem to support copper. See it HERE!

    • Replies: @utu
    @anonymous

    More from Minnesota: White girl attacked while she was swimming in a Minnesota lake

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4718790/Girl-suffers-bone-deep-cuts-FOOT-fish.html#ixzz4nXCZ6riQ

  142. @Hindoo
    Dearest Mr. Sailer,

    I have a cost effective plan to identify various cognitive classes among America-dwellers.

    My plan is based on the remarkable findings of the venerable J. Philippe Rushton to whom, I believe, you and your erudite audience would need no introduction.

    Since it's scientific un-PC hatefact that penis size is inversely proportional to IQ, with the latter being the essence of the phenomenal universe, we can safely say LongSchlongers are expendable while TinyWieners are valuable.

    Based on this premise, I propose to replace SAT/GRE with a much cheaper test of fellatability.

    Yes, that's right. FELLATABILITY.

    Basically, students requiring admission to schools and colleges would be required to be fellated by a prostitute* and his eligibility would be decided by how difficult it is for that woman**.

    There will be five grades of people based on the fellatability of their tool:

    A - Can't even be fellated.
    B - Deepthroating not possible as toll doesn't reach the throat.
    C - Can easily be deepthroated.
    D - Deepthroating requires visits to hospital.
    E - Attempts to deepthroat means certain death.

    E will immediately be sterilized.
    D will become burger flippers.
    C will become USCIS employee.
    B will go to law school.
    A will be the technocratic elite.

    *This will be perfectly legal. Just trust me.
    **Since LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ are part of the coalition of fringes, we'll make sure gay dudes get punished by being fellated by women.

    Replies: @Antonin Chigurh, @unpc downunder, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    I don’t really want to work for USCIS.

  143. Mayor Hodges press conference just a hymn of praise to lesbian police chief. Black American man just screeching at mayor Hodges about the murder and the police. It’s chaos Blsck American guy screaming “this is our town andour country “. By bye Betsy total chaos. I love it when a hijab wearing White commie married to a black activist is attacked by a black mob.

    Sign community united against police brutality. He , Noor is not one of us screech the blacks. Well, he is not an American black.. Blacks demand Hodges resignation. “We are taxpayers we own this building pay you and elected you”
    “Shut down police and city hall”
    The blacks are saying what I say, the murder is the issue, not the body cameras. Group is half White, half black American. Blacks loud but speak well, no cursing.

    Now middle aged White woman denouncing police mayor and city officials. Demanding body cameras on at all times.
    Recall election planned

    Thing is, the body cams are on the upper chest/shoulder focusing straight ahead. I doubt body cams would have been able to film the shooting as the gun was at the waist or abdomen of the officers below the body cams.

    Mayor Hodges fled the press conference

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Alden

    I heard that press conference on the TV, a couple rooms away. A bunch of angry, loud black people complaining about................something - injustice, I guess, or some slight done to black bodies. I guess the white-lady mayor who likes to wear hijabs had to duck out. All of this because some third-worlder cop from a backward bandit-nation murdered a nice white lady yoga instructor.

    Hey, you - Garrison Keillor - is this the Minnesota you know and love? Well, this is what you worked for.......................enjoy!

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

  144. My sister lived in Minneapolis for a few years. She says Edina and the Fulton neighbor hood are probably the wealthiest Whitest, lowest crime places in the state.

    Edina is pronounced Idina.

  145. @Thanet the Gannet
    B+ citizen - what a perfect description of the sort of good, middle class people you need to build a decent society! No?...

    Dayton's unsaid implication - it's not necessarily A+ we're importing, hey, could be C, D, E, as long as they still shop!

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Olorin

    What would be even more insane to me would be if the citizens of Minnesota elect this guy for another term.

  146. @Cagey Beast
    OT but part of our world.

    https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/888483459802464257

    Replies: @CCZ

    And this is what Emma “Mattress Girl” has become and why the “coastal elites” and “A+” intellects have no connection to “B+” Americans and only serve to poison the well.

    http://www.emmasulkowicz.com/the-ship-is-sinking/

    http://www.emmasulkowicz.com/emma-and-violet/

    • Replies: @Tom-in-VA
    @CCZ

    Her parents must be so proud!

  147. @anonymous
    This bullshit that has been going on for the past couple of decades of trying to fix the economy by importing welfare recipients and raising taxes on hard working Americans to pay for it is doomed to fail, and fail miserably. I would suggest that most of these taxpayers would gladly buy double the amount of toilet paper and ship it to Somalia if it would keep these ignorant hut dwellers and their nasty habit in Africa where they belong. The only ones winning in this are the immigrants and the big retail corps (banks). Oh sure these christian resettlement groups get rich off of it but in the long run who gets that money, the banks. This huge push for third world immigration has always been about one thing, increasing consumerism. Poor Somalis don't buy toilet paper. toothpaste, gasoline, potato chips, deodorant, etc, etc, They don't buy much of anything while living in Somalia, But lets move them over here, give them a food stamp card , a monthly stipend so they got some spending money, set them up in a rent free house, they will spend eat consume, as the subliminal messages the government treated us to on tv back in the sixties and seventies. The reasoning of the politicians is that sure maybe these first groups wont work and the taxpayers will foot the bill, but in the next generations of those born and raised here will be more educated and will be ambitious Americans wanting to get jobs and create small businesses. Unfortunately being born in America isn't going to automatically raise the IQ of the group and it certainly won't change their inherent tribalism and violence that is in their genetic makeup. I'm sure that Americans would gladly agree to a tax to raise money to keep the world's moochers in their homelands, but as we all know sending wealth to help the poor people in third world countries only winds up in the corrupt greedy hands of the dictators of these places. So Trump needs to honor his campaign promises and make these dregs remain in their own countries. May be the wealthy elite would like to open up some Walmarts and McDonalds in Somali and introduce them to consumerism. ringing people hear and giving them free shit wont work. It's already too late for Europe, but we still have a fighting chance at saving out nation and our culture.

    Replies: @Alden

    Foreign aid

    Direct deposit for dictators!!!!

  148. e says:

    The presser this evening by the migrant, hajib-loving Minny mayor was interrupted by blacks behaving badly and …well, watch for yourselves. There’s a lesbian that gets into the act too. Well, I think she’s a lesbian. We have descended into chaos.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @e

    "Female lesbian police-chief" is probably doubly redundant.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @Boethiuss
    @e


    The presser this evening by the migrant, hajib-loving Minny mayor was interrupted by blacks behaving badly and …well, watch for yourselves. There’s a lesbian that gets into the act too. Well, I think she’s a lesbian. We have descended into chaos.
     
    Between the screamers and the screamed at, there's not a single Republican voter in the bunch.
  149. @anarchyst
    @27 year old

    It won't happen, as the so-called "civil-rights" division of the U S Department of Justice (actually "just us") has declared that whites are not covered by "civil-rights" laws, and as such, are ineligible for "civil-rights" protections under existing laws. This has been the stance of the U S Justice Department for decades. Ask the present director of the "civil-rights" division...
    Their rationale for excluding whites is that they consider whites to "have the power"--something that they have determined that (certain) minorities do not.
    As it presently stands, whites do not have "civil-rights", but DO have Constitutional rights. I would have to surmise that Constitutional rights surpass "civil-rights" every time.
    Regards,

    Replies: @27 year old, @Alden

    Rights on paper mean nothing unless they are enforced. Constitutional rights for Whites are never enforced.

    • Replies: @the alt white comics
    @Alden


    Rights on paper mean nothing unless they are enforced. Constitutional rights for Whites are never enforced.

     

    agreed...that is why the bill of rights means nothing...it only gets interpreted in ways that help the elite...the real business end of the constitution is the structure of the federal govt it created--the separation of powers, the check and balances, staggered elections, no recall, no referendum, large voting districts...these characteristics of the fed govt are the democracy killers used by the elite against the white working class majority
  150. @TomSchmidt
    @Anonymous

    In the past couple of weeks there’s been the movement of large numbers of military air assets in my neck of the woods on the East Coast. Last time this occurred was late 2002.

    Do tell. I'm guessing you're near Dover, DE.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alden

    Are coffin factories suddenly busy?

  151. How gratifying for one to be referred to as a beta-plus instead of as a “deplorable.” That must be that mid-western niceness I’ve heard so much about.

    • LOL: ben tillman
  152. @Hindoo
    Dearest Mr. Sailer,

    I have a cost effective plan to identify various cognitive classes among America-dwellers.

    My plan is based on the remarkable findings of the venerable J. Philippe Rushton to whom, I believe, you and your erudite audience would need no introduction.

    Since it's scientific un-PC hatefact that penis size is inversely proportional to IQ, with the latter being the essence of the phenomenal universe, we can safely say LongSchlongers are expendable while TinyWieners are valuable.

    Based on this premise, I propose to replace SAT/GRE with a much cheaper test of fellatability.

    Yes, that's right. FELLATABILITY.

    Basically, students requiring admission to schools and colleges would be required to be fellated by a prostitute* and his eligibility would be decided by how difficult it is for that woman**.

    There will be five grades of people based on the fellatability of their tool:

    A - Can't even be fellated.
    B - Deepthroating not possible as toll doesn't reach the throat.
    C - Can easily be deepthroated.
    D - Deepthroating requires visits to hospital.
    E - Attempts to deepthroat means certain death.

    E will immediately be sterilized.
    D will become burger flippers.
    C will become USCIS employee.
    B will go to law school.
    A will be the technocratic elite.

    *This will be perfectly legal. Just trust me.
    **Since LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ are part of the coalition of fringes, we'll make sure gay dudes get punished by being fellated by women.

    Replies: @Antonin Chigurh, @unpc downunder, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    That’s what the Asians say, Big thing, little brain, Little thing, big brain.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alden

    you basque british made aids thinking with your dick instead of using more of your small brains.

    Replies: @Alden

  153. @Detective Club
    Drayton is a stroked-out Dem, a veritable Zombie. He's a typical Dem. politician of the present & the future. He's just another Orwellian example of 2 + 2 = 5, just because he's bold enough to say so. Remember when old Nancy Pelosi said that with every $1.00 increase in the Congressional Food Stamp spending appropriation, the domestic economy automatically benefits from an increase of $1.73 in Purchasing Power! That's not even Romper Room math! That's nuts beyond belief!
    https://youtu.be/CQWmMfjaXlc
    Poor Nan . . . the devastating toxic effect of all those collagen injections has seeped into her frontal lobes and deprived her of her ability to reason. She thinks that George W. Bush is still President and she has happily said so on numerous occasions.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You do realize, back in Bob’s day the Democrats were the ones working for the white working class and the Eskimos were rooting for the Republicans…. Maybe it should come as no surprise that Hollywood films of the day were dragging the Dems through the mud.

  154. Was she Jewish? We know she was a women’s activist and a feminist. Did they know each other or have any prior contact? Was this a Jew versus Muslim thing?

  155. I’ll repeat a point I’ve made several times.

    Most of the pro-immigration push comes not from the “far left,” but from pro-business centrists & conservatives. The centrist/conservative coalition, which dominates politics both locally and nationally, is highly dependent on donations from agribusiness, IT, real estate, construction, and various other industries. These industries are highly dependent on the continued growth of the labor force and consumer class. If our immigration-driven population growth slowed or stopped, lots of wealthy individuals would have to trim back on their lifestyles.

    While Somalis are not the ideal immigrants, Asians, Indian subcons, and Hispanics are economically productive and viewed favorably by business interests. Our immigrants are generally from these groups.

    Even Somalis do economically benefit certain industries. For example, if a Somali lives in public housing, that benefits construction contractors. If a Somali needs Food Stamps (“SNAP”), that benefits agribusiness. If the Somali needs medical care, the hospitals make money through Medicaid reimbursement. These costs do add to the long-term debt, but that may not matter if you’re only a short-term politicians.

    • Agree: utu, BB753, Alden
    • Replies: @jill
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "continued growth of the labor force?"

    We have 110 million people of working age who do not have a job. 92 million no longer looking for work, the rest out on a job hunt.

    "I hear talking heads on the boob tube every day blathering about the “strong” jobs market and either truly believing the bullshit shoveled by the BLS every month or just mouthing the words written by their corporate media bosses. Only an utter moron would believe you really have a 4.4% unemployment rate when 102 million out of 255 million working age Americans aren’t working. For the math challenged, that’s 40% not working, hovering near all-time highs. That number was 35% at the beginning of this century. And it’s not due to Boomers retiring, as the percentage of men 25 to 54 years old not working is at record highs and the percentage of Americans over 55 working has soared. The percentage of teenagers not working is also at record highs.

    In addition, 26 million of the 153 million employed Americans are working part time for low wages and minimal benefits. Almost 10 million Americans declare themselves self-employed (aka selling crap on Ebay, blogging, writing the next great novel). Another 8 million Americans hold multiple jobs. Then we get to the fact 21 million non-producing people are working for the government, getting paid from the tax dollars generated by those working for companies producing something. When it is all said and done, there are approximately 94 million full-time workers in private industry paying taxes to support 102 million non-workers and 21 million government workers. In what world does this represent a strong job market?"


    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/07/16/navigating-through-the-storms/#more-150208

  156. CCZ says:

    MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The latest on an Australian woman fatally shot by a Minneapolis police officer after calling 911 (all times local):

    5:55 p.m.

    The Minneapolis police chief has resigned following the fatal shooting of an Australian woman by a police officer.

    Chief Janee (juh-NAY’) Harteau (HAR’-toh) stepped down Friday, just a day after making her first remarks on the death of 40-year-old Justine Damond. Damond was shot Saturday night by an officer responding to her 911 call about a possible sexual assault in the alley behind her house.

  157. OT:

    https://amp.businessinsider.com/apple-exec-eddy-cue-rihanna-nba-finals-2017-6

    How dare a grown white man heckle a rich and famous black (ish) woman in the heat of the moment at a basketball game.

  158. If this is what they want in Minnesota, then they all deserve each other. Here’s how the diverse citizenry shut down a press conference by the hijab-wearing mayor of Minneapolis today:

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Just watched it.

    Insanity.

  159. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    What kind of pussy-ass masochists live in Minnesota? Who the fuck elects a guy like this?

    What the hell happened to Swedes, Germans and their descendents?

    It's becoming more and more apparent that a large chunk of whites need to be culled from the gene pool. These people aren't worth fighting for, and I sure as hell don't want them next to me in a fight.

    Let me reiterate: It's not survival of the nicest; it's survival of the fittest. Minnesotans are going down.

    Replies: @anony-mouse, @lavoisier

    ‘What the hell happened to Swedes, Germans and their descendents?’

    American Swedes and Germans are acting like European Swedes and Germans.

    This is an HBD site, isn’t it?

  160. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous, years ago my wife and I sat down to enjoy a cocktail on our hotel balcony overlooking the Nile at Cairo. We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump. Finished, he walked into the Nile and washed his butt. "Room Service? Two more gin and tonics to our room please."

    Replies: @Romanian, @Charles Pewitt, @Dr. X, @antipater_1

    Of course you can see the same thing in San Francisco or Denver!

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @antipater_1

    Anti, Sadly and disgustingly true. Read an article in Sac Bee or SF Chronicle title "Why does my city smell like a toilet." Big problem in Sacramento and San Francisco.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Autochthon

  161. @Daniel H
    @Rod1963

    During my weekly shopping peregrination I visit around 10 stores (Lowes, Target, Walgreen, Walmart..... The only one that is always crowded, where all the checkout lines (up to 10 in this case) have at least 3-4 customers in queue is COSTCO. Walmart grocery does OK also, but not as well as COSTCO. Though I don't know why they do well at all. Their produce section is full of stale fruit and vegetables. All the other stores are eerily sparsely filled.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Costco isn’t really the place for produce. My local one is always jammed. I order most of my Costco stuff online — they have free shipping, and you avoid the hassle of going to the store. They don’t ship their mouthwash though, so when I run through 4.5 liters of it, every few months I have to go into the local store and buy more.

  162. Minnesota Gov. Dayton Collapses During Speech 23 Jan 2017

    //////////

    Poor Somalis don’t buy toilet paper. toothpaste, gasoline, potato chips, deodorant, etc, etc,

    Muzzums don’t use toilet paper. Probably not much toothpaste or deodorant also.

  163. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/vdare/status/888452722000896003

    Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton has health problems to go along with his hatred of regular Minnesotans. Governor Dayton is not well; in this January, 2017 video he collapses while delivering the state of the state speech:

    https://youtu.be/Pi7WSv3NCCE

    Replies: @BB753, @Mr. Anon, @Alden

    No, Caesar hath it not. But you and I and honest Casca, we have the falling sickness.

  164. @Alden
    Mayor Hodges press conference just a hymn of praise to lesbian police chief. Black American man just screeching at mayor Hodges about the murder and the police. It's chaos Blsck American guy screaming "this is our town andour country ". By bye Betsy total chaos. I love it when a hijab wearing White commie married to a black activist is attacked by a black mob.

    Sign community united against police brutality. He , Noor is not one of us screech the blacks. Well, he is not an American black.. Blacks demand Hodges resignation. "We are taxpayers we own this building pay you and elected you"
    "Shut down police and city hall"
    The blacks are saying what I say, the murder is the issue, not the body cameras. Group is half White, half black American. Blacks loud but speak well, no cursing.

    Now middle aged White woman denouncing police mayor and city officials. Demanding body cameras on at all times.
    Recall election planned

    Thing is, the body cams are on the upper chest/shoulder focusing straight ahead. I doubt body cams would have been able to film the shooting as the gun was at the waist or abdomen of the officers below the body cams.

    Mayor Hodges fled the press conference

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I heard that press conference on the TV, a couple rooms away. A bunch of angry, loud black people complaining about…………….something – injustice, I guess, or some slight done to black bodies. I guess the white-lady mayor who likes to wear hijabs had to duck out. All of this because some third-worlder cop from a backward bandit-nation murdered a nice white lady yoga instructor.

    Hey, you – Garrison Keillor – is this the Minnesota you know and love? Well, this is what you worked for…………………..enjoy!

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Mr. Anon

    Mr. Anon:

    Garrison Kellor - A repulsive creature spawned on the prairie.

    You have him and what he's begotten down to a perfect tee.

    Sincere thanks for pegging him and what he's wrought so well!

    Replies: @lavoisier, @Reg Cæsar

  165. I knew you’d come around to my point of view….consumer demand props up the ponzi economy….immigration props up consumer demand…which increases corporate profits, CEOs salaries and media ad revenue…

    QED

  166. @e
    The presser this evening by the migrant, hajib-loving Minny mayor was interrupted by blacks behaving badly and ...well, watch for yourselves. There's a lesbian that gets into the act too. Well, I think she's a lesbian. We have descended into chaos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCHgXxB2B_Y

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Boethiuss

    “Female lesbian police-chief” is probably doubly redundant.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Mr. Anon


    “Female lesbian police-chief” is probably doubly redundant.
     
    All lesbians are police chiefs?

    Replies: @Lurker

  167. @anonymous
    More from the Twin Cities. Another trigger happy cop in Minneapolis seriously wounds two Canine-Americans. Video doesn't seem to support copper. See it HERE!

    Replies: @utu

    More from Minnesota: White girl attacked while she was swimming in a Minnesota lake

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4718790/Girl-suffers-bone-deep-cuts-FOOT-fish.html#ixzz4nXCZ6riQ

  168. @Jack Hanson
    @Boethiuss

    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn't pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us "Trump can't win".

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Difference maker, @Autochthon

    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn’t pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us “Trump can’t win”.

    O rly? I “changed” my name because this is the only handle where unz.com software accepts my comments. Apparently for Jack my “ridiculous” predictions were the assertion that Trump was going to lose in the fall, which even if it was wrong hardly seems ridiculous, either then or now.

    But even then, my main beef was “What if he wins?” which if anything is more relevant now than then.

    A lot of people here at iSteve, including Jack, want to think that Trump is their guy and try to stand behind him. That might be superficially plausible if you agree with the Trump worldview, but if you look at things in any detail it’s not helping us.

    A long time ago and a galaxy far away, the psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler Ross invented the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but none of our Left adversaries have moved one inch past anger. The idea that Trump is President and they have accommodate that as best as they can, that’s getting no traction at all.

    For the Democrats and media in Washington and the Left outside Washington, there’s this big buildup toward some culmination where Trump is finally humiliated or impeached, and in the mean time we’re living in some kind of weird regency where we let Trump sit in the Oval Office but really it’s HR McMaster, Ryan, Comey, Mueller and some random judge in Hawaii who really call the shots.

    I wish I could say that they’re wrong but I’m not sure that they are. Jack really should be working for the Trump Administration. And if he were, he’d be bitching to the NYT for two hours a day at least, just like Ivanka, Sessions, Bannon, Priebus, etc are doing now. Whatever his problems are with his sergeant at the Arizona Highway Patrol, or whatever agency he works for, the Trump Administration is ten times worse. We know this because of the people who support Trump and have gone to work for Trump have been telling us in the media.

    Trump won’t believe his own people who he hired when they tell him whatever. He only believes what he reads in the NYT. So his people leak all their shit to the NYT, so maybe then Trump will finally believe it and do something.

    Frankly, we’re way better off with “cucks, RINOs, GOPe, neocons” all the other swear words people use to describe Republicans other than Trump.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Boethiuss

    Look at all these words that only confirm what I said.

    You're a worst poster than tiny duck. We know he's trolling but you believe your own bullshit.

    , @AM
    @Boethiuss


    Frankly, we’re way better off with “cucks, RINOs, GOPe, neocons” all the other swear words people use to describe Republicans other than Trump.
     
    Please ignore my last comment. I will be ignoring yours in the future. Like an alcoholic, only the person themselves can want to recover from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @anonguy
    @Boethiuss


    the psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler Ross invented the stages of grief...
     
    Wow, what a blast of Disco era midwittery. I'd recommend updating yourself on her work, which is more or less unsupported in various trials.

    And as to her personal trajectory, whoa....

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  169. @Mr. Anon
    @e

    "Female lesbian police-chief" is probably doubly redundant.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    “Female lesbian police-chief” is probably doubly redundant.

    All lesbians are police chiefs?

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Boethiuss

    Not yet.

  170. CCZ says:

    In today’s “post-modern” everything is a “social construct” trans-gendered, Alice In Wonderland Down The Rabbit Hole world, female lesbian is a precision expression (and probably one that biological female lesbian feminists will eventually demand).

    Specifically, a “male lesbian” is a heterosexual man who wishes that he had been born a woman, but who (even if he had been a woman) could only make love to another woman and never to a man. Unlike the transsexual, the “male lesbian” does not feel himself to be “a woman trapped inside the body of a man”

    With transgender biological males identifying as female (known as trans-women), a survey of roughly 3,000 trans-women showed that only 23% of them identified as heterosexual, with 31% as bisexual, 29% as lesbian, 7% as asexual, 7% as queer and 2% as “other” (so almost one-third non-“female lesbians”).

  171. @e
    The presser this evening by the migrant, hajib-loving Minny mayor was interrupted by blacks behaving badly and ...well, watch for yourselves. There's a lesbian that gets into the act too. Well, I think she's a lesbian. We have descended into chaos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCHgXxB2B_Y

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Boethiuss

    The presser this evening by the migrant, hajib-loving Minny mayor was interrupted by blacks behaving badly and …well, watch for yourselves. There’s a lesbian that gets into the act too. Well, I think she’s a lesbian. We have descended into chaos.

    Between the screamers and the screamed at, there’s not a single Republican voter in the bunch.

  172. @Mr. Anon
    @Alden

    I heard that press conference on the TV, a couple rooms away. A bunch of angry, loud black people complaining about................something - injustice, I guess, or some slight done to black bodies. I guess the white-lady mayor who likes to wear hijabs had to duck out. All of this because some third-worlder cop from a backward bandit-nation murdered a nice white lady yoga instructor.

    Hey, you - Garrison Keillor - is this the Minnesota you know and love? Well, this is what you worked for.......................enjoy!

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Mr. Anon:

    Garrison Kellor – A repulsive creature spawned on the prairie.

    You have him and what he’s begotten down to a perfect tee.

    Sincere thanks for pegging him and what he’s wrought so well!

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    @Dan Hayes

    Amen. The bastard made a fortune ridiculing white people and their world.

    He was a hater through and through, and he was vulgar and coarse.

    Replies: @anonguy

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Dan Hayes


    Garrison Kellor – A repulsive creature spawned on the prairie
     
    And appropriate revenge for Arne Carlson, a NYC Swede who pulled off a coup in St Paul.
  173. @Whiskey
    Anti White stuff has done very well since 1955, so Dayton is no surprise. Anti White is part of the White civil war since at least Caesars time

    Replies: @anonymous

    Correction, Whiskey: anti-Gentile

  174. @BB753
    @anon

    Plutocrats like Mark Dayton don't care about GDP per capita. The higher it is, the less their share of the pie. But a high GDP with more consumers benefits those like him who have loads of money and assets and own real estate. It doesn't matter to him that middle class taxpayers are footing the bill of the Ponzi scheme of importing more and more people who contribute nothing to productivity. When the system crashes down he'll be dead or retired in Bermuda, so he doesn't care.
    The problem is, people like Mark Dayton are too stupid to make the economy grow other than by immigration, that is, importing consumers. Mark Dayton is living proof of regression to the mean. He's just not as smart as his grandfather (probably the reason he's in politics), but still very wealthy. Without unfettered immigration, most of our plutocrat elite would lose a substantial part of their wealth or even go broke. "Invite the world" is basically affirmative action for mediocre rich guys like Mark Dayton. It allows them to remain safely in the top .01 %, while keeping uppity bright middle class people down.

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson, @The True and Original David

    The vast majority of our political leadership (like dumbass dayton) have no idea how to generate wealth without importing vast numbers of people and just pumping up the GDP — or making it grosser, as the late Edward Abbey used to say.

    Perhaps another reason why Trump won, he knows that just making the economy bigger is meaningless to the avg citizen, he is focused on increasing productivity and per unit output

    • Agree: BB753
  175. @Anonymous
    Slightly OT:

    "Let the crops rot in the field, Hal."
    "I'm sorry, Dave, I can't let you do that."

    California agriculture acknowledges its low-labor future, adapts quickly through new technologies. (LA Times)

    “California agriculture just isn’t going to look the same,” said Ed Taylor, a UC Davis rural economist. “You’re going to be hard-pressed to find crops grown as labor-intensively as they are now.”

    “We don’t see — no matter what happens — that the labor problem will be solved,” said Soren Bjorn, president of Driscoll’s of the Americas.

    “We’ve been masking this problem all these years with a system that basically allowed you to accept fraudulent documents as legal, and that’s what has been keeping this workforce going,” said Steve Scaroni, whose Fresh Harvest company is among the biggest recruiters of farm labor. “And now we find out we don’t have much of a labor force up here, at least a legal one.”
     

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson, @Alden

    Yeah this seems like a tough nut to crack, Soren. I have no economics degrees, but if I’m not mistaken, there are these things called “labor demand,” “labor supply,” and “markets.”

    From my old Econ 101 I recall that goods and services can be purchased through this “market” thing. I believe you could simply purchase labor supply with money. What do I know, maybe it’s worth a try though? I sure would hate to give up eating lettuce and tomatoes (of course the tomatoes I eat come from a farm 30 miles down the road and I’m not sure they are picked by Mexicans, as crazy as that sounds!!).

  176. @AnotherDad
    @Thanet the Gannet


    B+ citizen – what a perfect description of the sort of good, middle class people you need to build a decent society! No?…
     
    Exactly. You need some genuinely smart guys to invent new stuff and move the ball forward. But B+ citizens are the bedrock that makes a society nice--prosperous, well ordered.

    Not a Minnesota guy. (Last spent any time there on Mille Lacs a few years back after an Iowa family reunion.) But I remember it as a pretty nice place back in around 1970 visiting a school friend there. Now every trip through the airport is a reminder it isn't really Minnesota anymore.

    Hopefully some Minnesotans will organize some sort of "B+ Minnesotans for retiring A+ahole Mark Dayton" and do a solid citizen B+ sort of job.

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson

    The MSP airport is truly a depressing place. 3rd world all the way.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Buck Turgidson

    All airports are depressing. Virtually all the shuttle bus drivers, rent a car clerks, and all the ground personel are turd world imports.

  177. @Thanet the Gannet
    B+ citizen - what a perfect description of the sort of good, middle class people you need to build a decent society! No?...

    Dayton's unsaid implication - it's not necessarily A+ we're importing, hey, could be C, D, E, as long as they still shop!

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @Olorin

    Help me here. You’re saying there’s something more important than shopping?

    What could it be?

    [thinky thinky]

    Oh, I got it–debt!

  178. @guest
    @JackOH

    "There's a Canadian guy, author of something called Voltaire's Bastards (?), who's done good work criticizing the modern cult of faux rationality"

    John Ralston Saul. I know nothing about him but what I learned from Voltaire's Bastards, and it wouldn't surprise me if he were one of Them (globalist progressive liberals, or whatever). His book probably got wide distribution because at its foundation it's a good citizenship type thing, and saves its big guns for things the ruling class is comfortable criticizing, like the Military Industrial Complex.

    However, it's dangerously subversive, if you read it correctly. Moreso than the games played by post-modernists, deconstructivists, and other popular schools critiquing rationality. Which no one takes seriously, despite the salaries we afford them. Voltaire's Bastards is full of actual history and is anti-Narrative in the extreme, short of being reactionary.

    Its target is the Managerial State and the technocratic elite. Which other mainstream books, not counting conspiracy theories, barely admit exist. Or do so in a facile "counterculture" manner. Voltaire's Bastards stands and in a distinguished line with books by authors like James Burnham, Paul Gottfried, Bruce Charlton, and James Kalb, which go to the heart of PC darkness. Not by talking about lizard people, but by arranging obvious stuff, as well as stuff you've never heard of, in unfamiliar and striking patterns.

    True patterns, it must be said, at least up to a point. Because there are plenty of false ways to rearrange history since the Enlightenment to "prove" reason is a sham. Foucault couldn't do it. This guy's on the mark.

    Replies: @JackOH

    guest, thanks. “However, it’s dangerously subversive, if you read it correctly.” Yep, that’s how I saw it, too. I think you’re right that Saul is likely more on the global, techno, liberal side. I recall being sort of shaken up because of his real-world specificity, not at all the fuzzy “intersectionality” and what-not you read from some folks.

    I’d recommend the book to anyone who still believes smart folks in think tanks and the academy have the latest answer du jour for what ails us. There’s a lot of raw, primal passion–salaries, careers, public attention, budgets, and so on–that undergirds the fine polysyllables and glib “rationalist” arguments of policy recommendations. Thanks again.

  179. @Rod1963
    It's not about expansion, it's about survival of the current consumption model. You know it's desperate when the big chains welcomed EBT cards. If they were doing well they wouldn't have accepted them.

    But they need them. I look at my local Stater Brothers and Albertson's stores. They're dead during the middle of the month. It's only at the end and the beginning of the month they're filled with shoppers.

    The fact is there are not enough shoppers who work for a living to keep all the chains viable. Either that or their income is being sucked up by something else like Obamacare.Hence EBT cards being welcomed.

    As I understand, EBT cards bring in about 20% of their income.

    Big picture. We're dying as a country. This idiot guv thinks by importing welfare cases he can prop up the local economy - which it won't.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Buck Turgidson, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Mr. Anon, @TomSchmidt, @Alden, @Erik L, @anonymous, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ed

    Amazon Prime is going to allow welfare cases to subscribe at a lower rate. It’s packaged as a nice, SJW endeavor but the reality is it wants to compete with Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart’s business is significantly fueled by welfare.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/07/531856069/amazon-lowers-prime-membership-rate-for-low-income-customers

  180. @Boethiuss
    @Jack Hanson



    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn’t pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us “Trump can’t win”.
     
    O rly? I "changed" my name because this is the only handle where unz.com software accepts my comments. Apparently for Jack my "ridiculous" predictions were the assertion that Trump was going to lose in the fall, which even if it was wrong hardly seems ridiculous, either then or now.

    But even then, my main beef was "What if he wins?" which if anything is more relevant now than then.

    A lot of people here at iSteve, including Jack, want to think that Trump is their guy and try to stand behind him. That might be superficially plausible if you agree with the Trump worldview, but if you look at things in any detail it's not helping us.

    A long time ago and a galaxy far away, the psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler Ross invented the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. I don't know if any of you have noticed, but none of our Left adversaries have moved one inch past anger. The idea that Trump is President and they have accommodate that as best as they can, that's getting no traction at all.

    For the Democrats and media in Washington and the Left outside Washington, there's this big buildup toward some culmination where Trump is finally humiliated or impeached, and in the mean time we're living in some kind of weird regency where we let Trump sit in the Oval Office but really it's HR McMaster, Ryan, Comey, Mueller and some random judge in Hawaii who really call the shots.

    I wish I could say that they're wrong but I'm not sure that they are. Jack really should be working for the Trump Administration. And if he were, he'd be bitching to the NYT for two hours a day at least, just like Ivanka, Sessions, Bannon, Priebus, etc are doing now. Whatever his problems are with his sergeant at the Arizona Highway Patrol, or whatever agency he works for, the Trump Administration is ten times worse. We know this because of the people who support Trump and have gone to work for Trump have been telling us in the media.

    Trump won't believe his own people who he hired when they tell him whatever. He only believes what he reads in the NYT. So his people leak all their shit to the NYT, so maybe then Trump will finally believe it and do something.

    Frankly, we're way better off with "cucks, RINOs, GOPe, neocons" all the other swear words people use to describe Republicans other than Trump.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @AM, @anonguy

    Look at all these words that only confirm what I said.

    You’re a worst poster than tiny duck. We know he’s trolling but you believe your own bullshit.

  181. @CCZ
    @Cagey Beast

    And this is what Emma "Mattress Girl" has become and why the “coastal elites” and “A+” intellects have no connection to “B+” Americans and only serve to poison the well.

    http://www.emmasulkowicz.com/the-ship-is-sinking/

    http://www.emmasulkowicz.com/emma-and-violet/

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA

    Her parents must be so proud!

  182. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll repeat a point I've made several times.

    Most of the pro-immigration push comes not from the "far left," but from pro-business centrists & conservatives. The centrist/conservative coalition, which dominates politics both locally and nationally, is highly dependent on donations from agribusiness, IT, real estate, construction, and various other industries. These industries are highly dependent on the continued growth of the labor force and consumer class. If our immigration-driven population growth slowed or stopped, lots of wealthy individuals would have to trim back on their lifestyles.

    While Somalis are not the ideal immigrants, Asians, Indian subcons, and Hispanics are economically productive and viewed favorably by business interests. Our immigrants are generally from these groups.

    Even Somalis do economically benefit certain industries. For example, if a Somali lives in public housing, that benefits construction contractors. If a Somali needs Food Stamps ("SNAP"), that benefits agribusiness. If the Somali needs medical care, the hospitals make money through Medicaid reimbursement. These costs do add to the long-term debt, but that may not matter if you're only a short-term politicians.

    Replies: @jill

    “continued growth of the labor force?”

    We have 110 million people of working age who do not have a job. 92 million no longer looking for work, the rest out on a job hunt.

    “I hear talking heads on the boob tube every day blathering about the “strong” jobs market and either truly believing the bullshit shoveled by the BLS every month or just mouthing the words written by their corporate media bosses. Only an utter moron would believe you really have a 4.4% unemployment rate when 102 million out of 255 million working age Americans aren’t working. For the math challenged, that’s 40% not working, hovering near all-time highs. That number was 35% at the beginning of this century. And it’s not due to Boomers retiring, as the percentage of men 25 to 54 years old not working is at record highs and the percentage of Americans over 55 working has soared. The percentage of teenagers not working is also at record highs.

    In addition, 26 million of the 153 million employed Americans are working part time for low wages and minimal benefits. Almost 10 million Americans declare themselves self-employed (aka selling crap on Ebay, blogging, writing the next great novel). Another 8 million Americans hold multiple jobs. Then we get to the fact 21 million non-producing people are working for the government, getting paid from the tax dollars generated by those working for companies producing something. When it is all said and done, there are approximately 94 million full-time workers in private industry paying taxes to support 102 million non-workers and 21 million government workers. In what world does this represent a strong job market?”

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/07/16/navigating-through-the-storms/#more-150208

  183. @Dr. X
    @Buffalo Joe


    We were startled to see a man squat on the small patch of land between the road and the river lift his robe and take a dump.

     

    I was surprised to find that open defecation is actually a "thing" that the UN-globalist types are campaigning against. Apparently it's quite common and practiced by billions in the Third World. There's even a Wikipedia page on it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_defecation

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Dr.X, open sewers are still common in a lot of the world, but tourists rarely travel through those parts of the country. Tour companies and their tour guides want repeat business, so safe and scenic is best.

  184. AM says:
    @Stealth
    @BB753

    Although jesting, you actually raise a very good point.

    An atheist friend of mine once told me that if Christians really believed their loved ones were going to hell, they would give up everything and spend every waking moment saving souls, but they don't.

    In the same way, SJW's and other white liberal scolds almost never make deliberate personal sacrifices for the cause of righting the injustices they think are being heaped on America's nonwhite populations. Shouldn't they be donating all of their ill-gotten wealth to POC's and moving, penniless, to some European country in an effort to undo colonization of the Americas?

    On the contrary, some of them benefit handsomely from doing their part to combat the scourge of white privilege. Tim Wise, for instance, earns a damn good living as an activist working against the interests of his own people. Given his ideology, you would think that Tim, realizing how swell his own life was from the moment of conception, and that his personal gravy train was built on the backs African Americans and other nonwhites, would have given up some of his inherited advantages, but nope, he manages to fight on behalf of black follks AND enrich himself at the same time. It's like going downhill both ways.

    Replies: @AM

    An atheist friend of mine once told me that if Christians really believed their loved ones were going to hell, they would give up everything and spend every waking moment saving souls, but they don’t.

    Atheists are such whacky, fun bunch, commenting on theology that they are hostile, assuming they understand it at all.

    A Christian can’t really say if they’re going to hell or not. It’s sin in Catholicism to assume that you’re saved. Just trying to save your own soul should be consume a great deal of your time and efforts, because it’s difficult. The only thing orthodox Christianity makes clear is about salvation is that it is a tricky, complex business.

    There are Christians out there just as you describe. The vast majority of us feel that they are, in our considered opinions, probably some of the biggest jerks on the planet. That what’s slaying me here. You’d hate this person who supposedly dedicated to their beliefs, rather than leaving the mysteries of life to God.

    Atheists quite often come up with a heads I win, tails you lose arguments and this is certainly one of them.

  185. AM says:
    @Boethiuss
    @Difference maker



    Not to worry. They will all bend the knee or be purged
     
    Bend the knee to Trump? As if. Trump isn't going to purge anybody. You need henchmen to carry out a purge, and Trump doesn't have any. Notice how Trump has been in office for six months now, and there hasn't been any purges.

    Replies: @AM

    Notice how Trump has been in office for six months now, and there hasn’t been any purges.

    It hasn’t been making headline news. Trump has been very quietly purging the bureaucracy. Sessions got rid of all the Obama lawyers.

    I think he’s been using the hostility of the media by supplying them with some WWF drama to fill the headlines while he gets work done. If I’m right, he’s been very clever.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @AM



    It hasn’t been making headline news. Trump has been very quietly purging the bureaucracy. Sessions got rid of all the Obama lawyers.

    I think he’s been using the hostility of the media by supplying them with some WWF drama to fill the headlines while he gets work done. If I’m right, he’s been very clever.
     
    Well, that's the first I've heard of that then, and it's very good news if it's true. Do you have any sources for that?
  186. AM says:
    @Boethiuss
    @Jack Hanson



    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn’t pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us “Trump can’t win”.
     
    O rly? I "changed" my name because this is the only handle where unz.com software accepts my comments. Apparently for Jack my "ridiculous" predictions were the assertion that Trump was going to lose in the fall, which even if it was wrong hardly seems ridiculous, either then or now.

    But even then, my main beef was "What if he wins?" which if anything is more relevant now than then.

    A lot of people here at iSteve, including Jack, want to think that Trump is their guy and try to stand behind him. That might be superficially plausible if you agree with the Trump worldview, but if you look at things in any detail it's not helping us.

    A long time ago and a galaxy far away, the psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler Ross invented the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. I don't know if any of you have noticed, but none of our Left adversaries have moved one inch past anger. The idea that Trump is President and they have accommodate that as best as they can, that's getting no traction at all.

    For the Democrats and media in Washington and the Left outside Washington, there's this big buildup toward some culmination where Trump is finally humiliated or impeached, and in the mean time we're living in some kind of weird regency where we let Trump sit in the Oval Office but really it's HR McMaster, Ryan, Comey, Mueller and some random judge in Hawaii who really call the shots.

    I wish I could say that they're wrong but I'm not sure that they are. Jack really should be working for the Trump Administration. And if he were, he'd be bitching to the NYT for two hours a day at least, just like Ivanka, Sessions, Bannon, Priebus, etc are doing now. Whatever his problems are with his sergeant at the Arizona Highway Patrol, or whatever agency he works for, the Trump Administration is ten times worse. We know this because of the people who support Trump and have gone to work for Trump have been telling us in the media.

    Trump won't believe his own people who he hired when they tell him whatever. He only believes what he reads in the NYT. So his people leak all their shit to the NYT, so maybe then Trump will finally believe it and do something.

    Frankly, we're way better off with "cucks, RINOs, GOPe, neocons" all the other swear words people use to describe Republicans other than Trump.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @AM, @anonguy

    Frankly, we’re way better off with “cucks, RINOs, GOPe, neocons” all the other swear words people use to describe Republicans other than Trump.

    Please ignore my last comment. I will be ignoring yours in the future. Like an alcoholic, only the person themselves can want to recover from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @AM



    Like an alcoholic, only the person themselves can want to recover from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
     
    Trump Derangement Syndrome my ass.

    I voted for Trump, I wanted him to succeed, I still do want him to succeed for that matter. But we have to respond to Trump on the basis of who he has shown himself to be. That is way different than the thoughts of a lot of people here, who want to take him as whatever validates their John Wayne fantasies.

    Replies: @AM, @Jack Hanson

  187. Anonymous [AKA "baque britishhave tiny barains"] says:
    @Alden
    @Hindoo

    That's what the Asians say, Big thing, little brain, Little thing, big brain.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    you basque british made aids thinking with your dick instead of using more of your small brains.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Anonymous

    What makes you think I am basque or British or have a dick?

  188. @Wilkey
    @George

    Somalis managed to vote Phyllis Kahn out ending her 44 year regime. Evidence that while there are roughly 25,000-30,000 Somalis in Minnesota they are organized so they vote like 100,000-120,000 native born Americans.

    Nah. Minnesota has about 5.5 million people and its House has 134 seats. That's about 40,000 residents per seat. Kahn lost in the Democratic primary, so the number of votes would've been a lot smaller than in a general election - probably just a few thousand. What's interesting about the race is that same day registration and early voting occurred at dramatically higher rates in Kahn's district than in any other, and far more people cast votes for the legislative contest than the gubernatorial contest.

    Kahn spent 44 years feeding the bear. In 2003 she proposed a law to legalize first cousin marriage on behalf of the Somali community. In 2016 the bear finally ate her.

    Replies: @Alden

    What did she do to irritate the Somali community?

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Alden

    What did she do to irritate the Somali community?

    She was born white, Jewish and (to a lesser degree) female.

  189. @Buck Turgidson
    @AnotherDad

    The MSP airport is truly a depressing place. 3rd world all the way.

    Replies: @Alden

    All airports are depressing. Virtually all the shuttle bus drivers, rent a car clerks, and all the ground personel are turd world imports.

  190. @antipater_1
    @Buffalo Joe

    Of course you can see the same thing in San Francisco or Denver!

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Anti, Sadly and disgustingly true. Read an article in Sac Bee or SF Chronicle title “Why does my city smell like a toilet.” Big problem in Sacramento and San Francisco.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Buffalo Joe

    And at the back of your mind you realise all smells are particulate.......

    , @Autochthon
    @Buffalo Joe

    Behold.

  191. @Ivy
    @Buffalo Joe

    Based on your Cairo experience, if you decide on a trip to India, prepare to have those room service G&Ts on speed dial.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Ivy, a friend went to India, her comment was The smell, oh the smell.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Buffalo Joe

    Try walking around Manhattan. Can't walk anywhere without the stench of urine, rotting food, etc.

    , @Autochthon
    @Buffalo Joe

    Fortunately for her, her betters in Washington have obviated the need to travel for that smell: it is now available throughout public tranportation all around the San Francisco Bay.

  192. @BB753
    @anon

    Plutocrats like Mark Dayton don't care about GDP per capita. The higher it is, the less their share of the pie. But a high GDP with more consumers benefits those like him who have loads of money and assets and own real estate. It doesn't matter to him that middle class taxpayers are footing the bill of the Ponzi scheme of importing more and more people who contribute nothing to productivity. When the system crashes down he'll be dead or retired in Bermuda, so he doesn't care.
    The problem is, people like Mark Dayton are too stupid to make the economy grow other than by immigration, that is, importing consumers. Mark Dayton is living proof of regression to the mean. He's just not as smart as his grandfather (probably the reason he's in politics), but still very wealthy. Without unfettered immigration, most of our plutocrat elite would lose a substantial part of their wealth or even go broke. "Invite the world" is basically affirmative action for mediocre rich guys like Mark Dayton. It allows them to remain safely in the top .01 %, while keeping uppity bright middle class people down.

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson, @The True and Original David

    So it turns out the real B-plus’er is not other than Dayton himself. “You are all mediocre,” sneers Governor Mediocrity.

    Hating “dumb” whites so intently that he elects to import a bazillion retarded non-whites, is like belly-flopping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Just wait till Governor Mediocrity sees the dumbth of the newcomers. Maybe he’s a D-plus, actually.

    • Agree: BB753
  193. @Boethiuss
    @Mr. Anon


    “Female lesbian police-chief” is probably doubly redundant.
     
    All lesbians are police chiefs?

    Replies: @Lurker

    Not yet.

  194. @Buzz Mohawk
    If this is what they want in Minnesota, then they all deserve each other. Here's how the diverse citizenry shut down a press conference by the hijab-wearing mayor of Minneapolis today:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui4TgPQfu0U

    Replies: @Lurker

    Just watched it.

    Insanity.

  195. @Buffalo Joe
    @Ivy

    Ivy, a friend went to India, her comment was The smell, oh the smell."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Autochthon

    Try walking around Manhattan. Can’t walk anywhere without the stench of urine, rotting food, etc.

  196. Seems like the Somalian murder and mayhem incidents, plus the collapsing public schools in (No longer Mary Tyler Moore’s) Minneapolis, St. Paul public schools should soon tip Minnesota in to a Wisconsin type Red State. We can get rid of Sen. Al Franken and he can go back to writing for Saturday Nigh Live like back when it was funny.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/no-thug-left-behind-14951.html

    Can’t we get a Manhattan Institute branch in Minnesota?

  197. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    What kind of pussy-ass masochists live in Minnesota? Who the fuck elects a guy like this?

    What the hell happened to Swedes, Germans and their descendents?

    It's becoming more and more apparent that a large chunk of whites need to be culled from the gene pool. These people aren't worth fighting for, and I sure as hell don't want them next to me in a fight.

    Let me reiterate: It's not survival of the nicest; it's survival of the fittest. Minnesotans are going down.

    Replies: @anony-mouse, @lavoisier

    It is a just a manifestation of the disease called liberalism.

  198. @Dan Hayes
    @Mr. Anon

    Mr. Anon:

    Garrison Kellor - A repulsive creature spawned on the prairie.

    You have him and what he's begotten down to a perfect tee.

    Sincere thanks for pegging him and what he's wrought so well!

    Replies: @lavoisier, @Reg Cæsar

    Amen. The bastard made a fortune ridiculing white people and their world.

    He was a hater through and through, and he was vulgar and coarse.

    • Replies: @anonguy
    @lavoisier


    Amen. The bastard made a fortune ridiculing white people and their world.

    He was a hater through and through, and he was vulgar and coarse.
     

    He was loathsome, but at least he didn't get the success in NYC he expected.

    Just another B+ MInnesotan in the end. I do wonder why they all stay there.

  199. @Jack Hanson
    @Boethiuss

    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn't pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us "Trump can't win".

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Difference maker, @Autochthon

    I bet Boethiuss is Bill Kristol

  200. @Buffalo Joe
    @antipater_1

    Anti, Sadly and disgustingly true. Read an article in Sac Bee or SF Chronicle title "Why does my city smell like a toilet." Big problem in Sacramento and San Francisco.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Autochthon

    And at the back of your mind you realise all smells are particulate…….

  201. @JackOH
    “Our economy cannot expand based on white, B+, Minnesota-born citizens. We don’t have enough,” Dayton said.

    Argumentative brutalism is a commonplace among moneyed, established elites and their paid lackeys in the academy, journalism, and corporate lobbies. Cherry-picked facts, any ol' assertions of convenience or expedience, my way or the highway. Their often excellent educations end up as ornamental, essentially acting as camouflage for raw power-grabbing. See President Bush and Iraq II. We pick up the pieces for these political adventurers after they finish with their marauding.

    There's a Canadian guy, author of something called Voltaire's Bastards (?), who's done good work criticizing the modern cult of faux rationality, which gives the unwarranted impression that primal passions, such as family, community, nation, and so on, are no longer important.

    Replies: @guest, @Desiderius

    Their often excellent educations

    Cite needed.

    Marx crowded out the liberal arts long ago.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    @Desiderius

    Dayton's Old Eli, a Yale alumnus. More or less agree with you about Marx and its stepchildren, Gramsci, the Frankfurt School, all that.

  202. @Desiderius
    @JackOH


    Their often excellent educations
     
    Cite needed.

    Marx crowded out the liberal arts long ago.

    Replies: @JackOH

    Dayton’s Old Eli, a Yale alumnus. More or less agree with you about Marx and its stepchildren, Gramsci, the Frankfurt School, all that.

  203. @MBlanc46
    @Dr. X

    I can see how Dems always win in Chicago and Cook County, where a majority of the population are black and Hispanic. But why do the whites in places such as MN keep voting for them? Chronic and acute niceness? The despicableness of the national GOP might have something to do with it, too.

    Replies: @Alden

    Check out Bob LaFollete’s Farmer Labor Party. Minnesota, like Wisconsin is or was primarily mid and late 19th century German and Scandinavian working class socialists. The WOBBLIES and other radicals were very strong in those states.

    Mayor Hodges is not a democrat. She is a member of the Democratic Farmer Labor party, a descendant of LaFollete’s party.

    Minnesota went from moderate socialism for working people to lunatic liberalism.
    When a political party achieves a goal, such as generous farm subsidies and good wages for humdrum jobs, it has to find new causes, and as each objective is achieved the party looks for a new cause.
    The Lutheran church is in it for the money. The liberals are in it for power.

    If liberals get behind on finding new causes they lose. God only knows what the next gay cause will be. My guess is lowering the age of consent to 14 then 12 then 10 and right down to infancy. Some states are criminalizing FMG. Minnesota is so crazy it might make it mandatory for everyone some day.

  204. @dr kill
    @Mark Caplan

    I know, right? How many many loud noises do you think he heard with 26 Somalis living in 3 rooms? What a story. I deserve a a gold box for this observation. Just the praying had to be ear splitting five times a day.

    Replies: @Alden

    According to a neighbor Noor is so sensitive to noise he spent a lot of time screaming at the kids in the playground to shut up.

  205. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/vdare/status/888452722000896003

    Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton has health problems to go along with his hatred of regular Minnesotans. Governor Dayton is not well; in this January, 2017 video he collapses while delivering the state of the state speech:

    https://youtu.be/Pi7WSv3NCCE

    Replies: @BB753, @Mr. Anon, @Alden

    He was probably drunk or stoned.

  206. @Buffalo Joe
    @antipater_1

    Anti, Sadly and disgustingly true. Read an article in Sac Bee or SF Chronicle title "Why does my city smell like a toilet." Big problem in Sacramento and San Francisco.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Autochthon

  207. @Buffalo Joe
    @Ivy

    Ivy, a friend went to India, her comment was The smell, oh the smell."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Autochthon

    Fortunately for her, her betters in Washington have obviated the need to travel for that smell: it is now available throughout public tranportation all around the San Francisco Bay.

  208. @AM
    @Boethiuss


    Notice how Trump has been in office for six months now, and there hasn’t been any purges.
     
    It hasn't been making headline news. Trump has been very quietly purging the bureaucracy. Sessions got rid of all the Obama lawyers.

    I think he's been using the hostility of the media by supplying them with some WWF drama to fill the headlines while he gets work done. If I'm right, he's been very clever.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    It hasn’t been making headline news. Trump has been very quietly purging the bureaucracy. Sessions got rid of all the Obama lawyers.

    I think he’s been using the hostility of the media by supplying them with some WWF drama to fill the headlines while he gets work done. If I’m right, he’s been very clever.

    Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of that then, and it’s very good news if it’s true. Do you have any sources for that?

  209. @AM
    @Boethiuss


    Frankly, we’re way better off with “cucks, RINOs, GOPe, neocons” all the other swear words people use to describe Republicans other than Trump.
     
    Please ignore my last comment. I will be ignoring yours in the future. Like an alcoholic, only the person themselves can want to recover from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    Like an alcoholic, only the person themselves can want to recover from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    Trump Derangement Syndrome my ass.

    I voted for Trump, I wanted him to succeed, I still do want him to succeed for that matter. But we have to respond to Trump on the basis of who he has shown himself to be. That is way different than the thoughts of a lot of people here, who want to take him as whatever validates their John Wayne fantasies.

    • Replies: @AM
    @Boethiuss


    But we have to respond to Trump on the basis of who he has shown himself to be.
     
    I have a very positive impression of the man. His integrity and work ethic are something I'd be proud of in anyone. There's a distinct possibility that intellectually he's running circles around almost everyone he meets, particularly in government and the media.

    The assumption that Trump is some sort of incompetent and lazy buffoon and that's so obvious is the very definition of TDS.

    You might be more open to what to finding out what he's doing if you could start to figure out what people who view him positively see in him. I note also you will need to search for his accomplishments because the media will be Russia, Russia, Russia, Twitter! for the next 4 years unless Trump sides steps the media to create headlines of his own.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Boethiuss

    Lmbo you didn't vote for Trump. You are a sad weirdo who can't admit he was wrong.

    At every turn people have underestimated Trump and theyve been wrong. You probably are Bill Kristol.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Boethiuss

  210. I bet Boethiuss is Bill Kristol

    F Bill Kristol.

  211. @lavoisier
    @Dan Hayes

    Amen. The bastard made a fortune ridiculing white people and their world.

    He was a hater through and through, and he was vulgar and coarse.

    Replies: @anonguy

    Amen. The bastard made a fortune ridiculing white people and their world.

    He was a hater through and through, and he was vulgar and coarse.

    He was loathsome, but at least he didn’t get the success in NYC he expected.

    Just another B+ MInnesotan in the end. I do wonder why they all stay there.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  212. @Boethiuss
    @Jack Hanson



    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn’t pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us “Trump can’t win”.
     
    O rly? I "changed" my name because this is the only handle where unz.com software accepts my comments. Apparently for Jack my "ridiculous" predictions were the assertion that Trump was going to lose in the fall, which even if it was wrong hardly seems ridiculous, either then or now.

    But even then, my main beef was "What if he wins?" which if anything is more relevant now than then.

    A lot of people here at iSteve, including Jack, want to think that Trump is their guy and try to stand behind him. That might be superficially plausible if you agree with the Trump worldview, but if you look at things in any detail it's not helping us.

    A long time ago and a galaxy far away, the psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler Ross invented the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. I don't know if any of you have noticed, but none of our Left adversaries have moved one inch past anger. The idea that Trump is President and they have accommodate that as best as they can, that's getting no traction at all.

    For the Democrats and media in Washington and the Left outside Washington, there's this big buildup toward some culmination where Trump is finally humiliated or impeached, and in the mean time we're living in some kind of weird regency where we let Trump sit in the Oval Office but really it's HR McMaster, Ryan, Comey, Mueller and some random judge in Hawaii who really call the shots.

    I wish I could say that they're wrong but I'm not sure that they are. Jack really should be working for the Trump Administration. And if he were, he'd be bitching to the NYT for two hours a day at least, just like Ivanka, Sessions, Bannon, Priebus, etc are doing now. Whatever his problems are with his sergeant at the Arizona Highway Patrol, or whatever agency he works for, the Trump Administration is ten times worse. We know this because of the people who support Trump and have gone to work for Trump have been telling us in the media.

    Trump won't believe his own people who he hired when they tell him whatever. He only believes what he reads in the NYT. So his people leak all their shit to the NYT, so maybe then Trump will finally believe it and do something.

    Frankly, we're way better off with "cucks, RINOs, GOPe, neocons" all the other swear words people use to describe Republicans other than Trump.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @AM, @anonguy

    the psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler Ross invented the stages of grief…

    Wow, what a blast of Disco era midwittery. I’d recommend updating yourself on her work, which is more or less unsupported in various trials.

    And as to her personal trajectory, whoa….

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @anonguy



    Wow, what a blast of Disco era midwittery. I’d recommend updating yourself on her work, which is more or less unsupported in various trials.
     
    To be honest, I haven't followed her work since then very closely. Frankly, I don't think it makes a difference for the matter at hand. Which is to say, Trump's Left adversaries are clearly at the stage of anger and have shown nothing of bargaining or depression.

    Eg, there's nobody at all that I can think of who's said something like, "Promise not to deport employed non-felons with minor children American citizens, and we'll let you build the wall." Or anything of the sort. In fact D's in Congress won't even come to an agreement with Trump about the things they believe in because they don't want to legitimize him.

    And on our side, Trump trashes his people publically in the NYT, while they trash him anonymously back in the same paper. This isn't going to work out well for us.

    We need to be able to move, as Republicans, as Americans, to speak up and defend ourselves independently of whatever Trump does. Trump is not "our guy".
  213. @Alden
    @Wilkey

    What did she do to irritate the Somali community?

    Replies: @Wilkey

    What did she do to irritate the Somali community?

    She was born white, Jewish and (to a lesser degree) female.

  214. @Alden
    @Rod1963

    EBT cards may be why Target has installed big grocery departments offering food about 20 to 30 percent less than the supermarket a block away.

    I was in one recently and took a good look at the towels, bath mats bedspreads lamps vases and women's and children's clothes.

    They were all really bad quality, much lower than similar price Macy's and much lower price Ross. The towels were very stiff and coarse.
    The women's and children's clothes were made of coarse cheap cloth, almost like Halloween costume cloth.
    The women's section had an unusually large stock of "women's" X XX and XXX
    Sizes. X is 250 pds average height XX is 300pds and XXX is 350 to 500 pds.

    And most of the summer tops in the X section were sleeveless scoop neck. Gross, imagine those blubbery arms, backs, chests, and triple chins.

    And of course there is not one White employee in the store.

    Replies: @CCZ, @MBlanc46, @Lucas McCrudy

    In a somewhat related story- According to Breitbart, Target’s CEO is now whining because Hispanic foot-shuffling at his stores has declined since Trump’s election: “The Hispanic consumer in the U.S. is shopping much less” “They are staying home. They are going out less often”

    More muh GDP. Who cares if actual Americans are relegated to a powerless minority in a Third World America… Life in our million-dollar neighborhoods will remain unchanged!

    see- http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/22/httpwww-breitbart-combig-government20170722americans-protest-very-fake-news-cnn-outside-of-atlanta-headquarters/

  215. AM says:
    @Boethiuss
    @AM



    Like an alcoholic, only the person themselves can want to recover from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
     
    Trump Derangement Syndrome my ass.

    I voted for Trump, I wanted him to succeed, I still do want him to succeed for that matter. But we have to respond to Trump on the basis of who he has shown himself to be. That is way different than the thoughts of a lot of people here, who want to take him as whatever validates their John Wayne fantasies.

    Replies: @AM, @Jack Hanson

    But we have to respond to Trump on the basis of who he has shown himself to be.

    I have a very positive impression of the man. His integrity and work ethic are something I’d be proud of in anyone. There’s a distinct possibility that intellectually he’s running circles around almost everyone he meets, particularly in government and the media.

    The assumption that Trump is some sort of incompetent and lazy buffoon and that’s so obvious is the very definition of TDS.

    You might be more open to what to finding out what he’s doing if you could start to figure out what people who view him positively see in him. I note also you will need to search for his accomplishments because the media will be Russia, Russia, Russia, Twitter! for the next 4 years unless Trump sides steps the media to create headlines of his own.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @AM



    I have a very positive impression of the man. His integrity and work ethic are something I’d be proud of in anyone. There’s a distinct possibility that intellectually he’s running circles around almost everyone he meets, particularly in government and the media.
     
    Hmm, I wondering what leads to think that. I think his energy level is pretty good, especially for 70. But beyond that, it's all bad.

    His work ethic is notoriously horrible. He spends his time golfing, Tweeting, and watching television. We knew from the campaign that he doesn't read his briefing papers, and it hasn't changed since then. Not to mention the plain ignorance of things he should know about on Twitter.


    You might be more open to what to finding out what he’s doing if you could start to figure out what people who view him positively see in him.
     
    Really, where would I find such things? Everything that I've seen suggests that the Trump inner circle leaks like a sieve with all sorts of unflattering information about Trump. What have you seen that leads you to believe otherwise?
  216. @Alden
    @anarchyst

    Rights on paper mean nothing unless they are enforced. Constitutional rights for Whites are never enforced.

    Replies: @the alt white comics

    Rights on paper mean nothing unless they are enforced. Constitutional rights for Whites are never enforced.

    agreed…that is why the bill of rights means nothing…it only gets interpreted in ways that help the elite…the real business end of the constitution is the structure of the federal govt it created–the separation of powers, the check and balances, staggered elections, no recall, no referendum, large voting districts…these characteristics of the fed govt are the democracy killers used by the elite against the white working class majority

  217. @Anonymous
    @Alden

    you basque british made aids thinking with your dick instead of using more of your small brains.

    Replies: @Alden

    What makes you think I am basque or British or have a dick?

  218. @Boethiuss
    @AM



    Like an alcoholic, only the person themselves can want to recover from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
     
    Trump Derangement Syndrome my ass.

    I voted for Trump, I wanted him to succeed, I still do want him to succeed for that matter. But we have to respond to Trump on the basis of who he has shown himself to be. That is way different than the thoughts of a lot of people here, who want to take him as whatever validates their John Wayne fantasies.

    Replies: @AM, @Jack Hanson

    Lmbo you didn’t vote for Trump. You are a sad weirdo who can’t admit he was wrong.

    At every turn people have underestimated Trump and theyve been wrong. You probably are Bill Kristol.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    @Jack Hanson

    Indeed. Don Surber has written a couple of books about it:

    https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Press-Surbers-pundits-Republican/dp/1533360197/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500862206&sr=8-1&keywords=Trump+the+press

    https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Establishment-Elitists-Never-Learned/dp/1542379164/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1542379164&pd_rd_r=7P75BQMCNG4A3WB05N4Z&pd_rd_w=uaRwi&pd_rd_wg=eA2iS&psc=1&refRID=7P75BQMCNG4A3WB05N4Z

    , @Boethiuss
    @Jack Hanson



    Lmbo you didn’t vote for Trump. You are a sad weirdo who can’t admit he was wrong.
     
    Jack you nitwit Urkel you are trying to play gotcha games without any gotchas.

    You go on and on about I (or a hundred others) thought Trump was going to lose to Hillary and think to yourself, "oooh, sick burn bro." Maybe you haven't noticed yet, but the rest of the world just ~eyeroll~s you when you do that.
  219. @anonguy

    http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/justine-damonds-shooter-officer-mohamed-noor-cast-out-by-minneapolis-police-department/news-story/f333feea868f917497fbed27af9bd0df
     
    I love telling you guys I told you so. MPD tosses Noor under the bus. At the end of the day, LBGT* chief proves dragnet-worthy, casts a bad officer to his fate despite the prevailing political predelictions to do otherwise

    America will survive, the system works, no? Maybe diversitronic police chiefs can get the job done as you revanchists would like to see it done.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Alden

    He hasn’t been cast out at all. He is on a nice long paid vacation known as administrative leave.

    Here’s my prediction. Some time in January there will be an announcement that since there is no body camera footage and neither the driver nor the bike rider saw anything it is a big mystery.

    Both officers will be suspended without pay for a week as punishment for not having the body cameras on. Harrity will go back to work. Noor will become an assistant assistant public relations officer.

    The article is all about Noor’s feeling abused because the department has not rushed to support him. Because he is Somalian the department and city government will support him. In America affirmative action African employees demand that their employers support and promote them no matter how incompetent and dangerous.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Alden

    I don't think so. Cameras or no cameras there is a dead Australian woman who cannot be explained away. "I was afraid for my life" usually works in front of the jury when the person you have shot it some 400 lb "gentle giant" who really could have torn your arms from your sockets. But not so much when the person who you shot was a petite and pretty unarmed white woman who was just trying to report a rape. In addition, Noor's partner is probably not delighted that his Somali brother in blue sent a bullet whizzing by inches from his head and there will be no "blue wall of silence" for Noor. Noor is going down. He will lose his job at an absolute minimum and will probably end up doing time.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  220. @Anonymous
    Slightly OT:

    "Let the crops rot in the field, Hal."
    "I'm sorry, Dave, I can't let you do that."

    California agriculture acknowledges its low-labor future, adapts quickly through new technologies. (LA Times)

    “California agriculture just isn’t going to look the same,” said Ed Taylor, a UC Davis rural economist. “You’re going to be hard-pressed to find crops grown as labor-intensively as they are now.”

    “We don’t see — no matter what happens — that the labor problem will be solved,” said Soren Bjorn, president of Driscoll’s of the Americas.

    “We’ve been masking this problem all these years with a system that basically allowed you to accept fraudulent documents as legal, and that’s what has been keeping this workforce going,” said Steve Scaroni, whose Fresh Harvest company is among the biggest recruiters of farm labor. “And now we find out we don’t have much of a labor force up here, at least a legal one.”
     

    Replies: @Buck Turgidson, @Alden

    I drive through the San Juaquin valley several times a year. Try recruiting those 3rd generation Mexicans loitering around the towns. They are all legal.

    The only time I ever see people actually working in the fields is in Ventura county during strawberry season.

    Maybe the leaves hide the pickers in the orchards. But in the fields I never see anyone. Planting is done by a couple guys and a big machine. Then nothing for months until harvest, again a couple guys and a big machine.

    You can plant 500 acres in a week and harvest them in 6 weeks. The crop duster planes take care of the weeds. Plus all these decades of herbicides have pretty much killed off all the weeds and their seeds. So vegetables only need workers 7 weeks of the year.

    Rice is planted by planes scattering the seeds about. Instead of transplanting like Asians do, they just keep flooding and draining the paddies.

    They even have machines to prune the fruit trees and vines after harvest.

  221. @Ivy
    @TomSchmidt

    Still doing my part to boycott the Fanjul machine by skipping sugar, and HFCS, too. Once you start noticing those on food labels it is shocking to see the prevalence.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    Once you stop largely eating sweetened foods, you begin to notice how sweet things really are. I’ve found Rice Krispies to be WAY too sweet for me now. Anything sweeter now than the natural sweetness of fruits, offset as they are with some acids, causes me to stop eating. Good for you, Ivy.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @TomSchmidt

    Thanks, and I also found that carbs made me crave sweets. That is also diminishing as I go back to more natural eating. Getting at the essence of a vegetable or fruit is fun. Grilling those provides one way to enjoy pure flavors.

    , @Jack D
    @TomSchmidt

    This must be in your head because in reality Rice Crispies contain very little sugar - they are maybe 10% sugar by weight - 3 grams in a 30g (1 oz.) serving (they are mostly carbs). In comparison, dates, a natural fruit, are 60% sugar and raisins are around 1/2 sugar.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @TomSchmidt

  222. @Anonymous
    @TomSchmidt

    Maryland. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago and then last week my wife asked what was going on. Last weekend I asked a neighbor if he knew what was going on as pairs of different fighter aircraft flew over, heading somewhere. He said, "Wasting our tax dollars."

    Could be nothing, but as I said, the last time I saw a similar pattern was in late 2002, right before the Iraq war.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    Ah. Let’s hope it’s just gratuitous waste of taxpayer dollars.

  223. @Jack Hanson
    @Boethiuss

    Reminder that Boethiussss had to change his name after one too many of his ridiculous predictions didn't pan out and spent the end of the summer to the election telling us that D+10 polls with a 500 person sample told us "Trump can't win".

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Difference maker, @Autochthon

    You adore predictions. Please predict for us all when Donald Trump is going to implement a single one of his promises made whilst campaigning: repeal of the so-called DACA, beginning construction of a wall on the Mexican border, disentanglement from foreign military adventures not implicating the security of what used to be the U.S.A., and end to NAFTA and similar agreements destroying American jobs, removal of entrenched political hacks in his administration, appointment of rational and moral judges….

  224. @TomSchmidt
    @Ivy

    Once you stop largely eating sweetened foods, you begin to notice how sweet things really are. I've found Rice Krispies to be WAY too sweet for me now. Anything sweeter now than the natural sweetness of fruits, offset as they are with some acids, causes me to stop eating. Good for you, Ivy.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Jack D

    Thanks, and I also found that carbs made me crave sweets. That is also diminishing as I go back to more natural eating. Getting at the essence of a vegetable or fruit is fun. Grilling those provides one way to enjoy pure flavors.

  225. @Jack Hanson
    @Boethiuss

    Lmbo you didn't vote for Trump. You are a sad weirdo who can't admit he was wrong.

    At every turn people have underestimated Trump and theyve been wrong. You probably are Bill Kristol.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Boethiuss

    Indeed. Don Surber has written a couple of books about it:

  226. @Alden
    @anonguy

    He hasn't been cast out at all. He is on a nice long paid vacation known as administrative leave.

    Here's my prediction. Some time in January there will be an announcement that since there is no body camera footage and neither the driver nor the bike rider saw anything it is a big mystery.

    Both officers will be suspended without pay for a week as punishment for not having the body cameras on. Harrity will go back to work. Noor will become an assistant assistant public relations officer.

    The article is all about Noor's feeling abused because the department has not rushed to support him. Because he is Somalian the department and city government will support him. In America affirmative action African employees demand that their employers support and promote them no matter how incompetent and dangerous.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I don’t think so. Cameras or no cameras there is a dead Australian woman who cannot be explained away. “I was afraid for my life” usually works in front of the jury when the person you have shot it some 400 lb “gentle giant” who really could have torn your arms from your sockets. But not so much when the person who you shot was a petite and pretty unarmed white woman who was just trying to report a rape. In addition, Noor’s partner is probably not delighted that his Somali brother in blue sent a bullet whizzing by inches from his head and there will be no “blue wall of silence” for Noor. Noor is going down. He will lose his job at an absolute minimum and will probably end up doing time.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Jack D


    In addition, Noor’s partner is probably not delighted that his Somali brother in blue sent a bullet whizzing by inches from his head and there will be no “blue wall of silence” for Noor. Noor is going down. He will lose his job at an absolute minimum and will probably end up doing time.
     
    You would think so, but it hasn't happened yet. For a lot of police there's no percentage in going down this road. The cop on duty is always right, period. And a lot of juries think that way to. I'm pretty confident that he'll have to leave the force, but I'm not going to believe he's going to do time until the day he gets an inmate number.

    I'm not completely sure about all the details, but a year or so ago, there was a South Carolina sheriff's deputy who shot and killed a black man running away from on camera, who was so obviously guilty that his own lawyer couldn't defend him and quit the defense. In any event, I think that guy even got a hung jury. I wouldn't be putting Officer Noor behind bars just yet.
  227. As Governor Dayton, whose great-grandfather founded the Target store chain…

    No, his great-grandfather founded Dayton’s, which in time became Dayton-Hudson. Mark’s uncle founded Target (within Dayton-Hudson) in 1962, the same year Kmart and Walmart were born. But one will always seem older than the other two because all were regional offshoots at the time.

    The height of confusion came when Dayton-Hudson bought Marshall Field, and adopted the name of its purchase. About the same time, neighbor bank Norwest bought Wells Fargo, and adopted its purchase’s name.

    Then Target split (amicably) from its parent. Later they gave campaign money to a business-friendly Republican, Tom Emmer, unaware that his co-sponsorship of a marriage amendment would infuriate almost all the designers in their employ. Now their stores’ toilets are genderically correct. Emmer now occupies the seat held by Michele Bachmann.

  228. @TomSchmidt
    @Ivy

    Once you stop largely eating sweetened foods, you begin to notice how sweet things really are. I've found Rice Krispies to be WAY too sweet for me now. Anything sweeter now than the natural sweetness of fruits, offset as they are with some acids, causes me to stop eating. Good for you, Ivy.

    Replies: @Ivy, @Jack D

    This must be in your head because in reality Rice Crispies contain very little sugar – they are maybe 10% sugar by weight – 3 grams in a 30g (1 oz.) serving (they are mostly carbs). In comparison, dates, a natural fruit, are 60% sugar and raisins are around 1/2 sugar.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Jack D

    The ingredients list has the first four items:
    Rice, sugar, salt, malt flavoring.

    That latter ingredient likely has a little sugar in it. There's no question that I never tasted the sweetness of Rice Krispies or Wheaties before stopping eating refined sugar. You only notice the sweetness after you re-sensitize yourself to sugar, like you won't notice a quiet sound if the louder sound obscuring it isn't removed. I have noticed how sweet sweetened things are now, with sugar not used as a flavor enhancer but rather an ingredient.

    Dates are extremely sweet, of course, as are raisins or any other form of dried fruit. I avoid those as well.

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Jack D

    Of course, doing the same thing with salt is also a revelation. I'd bet Rice Krispies without salt are inedible,

  229. @ThreeCranes
    @Arclight

    According to first-hand accounts brought back by early white explorers and missionaries, African blacks enjoyed watching the slow torture of animals in their death throes. Remorse? Are you kidding? It was recreation for them.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    According to first-hand accounts brought back by early white explorers and missionaries, African blacks enjoyed watching the slow torture of animals in their death throes. Remorse? Are you kidding? It was recreation for them.

    Nouvelle-Aquitaine is in Africa?

    • Replies: @jim jones
    @Reg Cæsar

    Found this on Reddit:

    http://imgur.com/a/izxP3

  230. @anonguy
    @Boethiuss


    the psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler Ross invented the stages of grief...
     
    Wow, what a blast of Disco era midwittery. I'd recommend updating yourself on her work, which is more or less unsupported in various trials.

    And as to her personal trajectory, whoa....

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    Wow, what a blast of Disco era midwittery. I’d recommend updating yourself on her work, which is more or less unsupported in various trials.

    To be honest, I haven’t followed her work since then very closely. Frankly, I don’t think it makes a difference for the matter at hand. Which is to say, Trump’s Left adversaries are clearly at the stage of anger and have shown nothing of bargaining or depression.

    Eg, there’s nobody at all that I can think of who’s said something like, “Promise not to deport employed non-felons with minor children American citizens, and we’ll let you build the wall.” Or anything of the sort. In fact D’s in Congress won’t even come to an agreement with Trump about the things they believe in because they don’t want to legitimize him.

    And on our side, Trump trashes his people publically in the NYT, while they trash him anonymously back in the same paper. This isn’t going to work out well for us.

    We need to be able to move, as Republicans, as Americans, to speak up and defend ourselves independently of whatever Trump does. Trump is not “our guy”.

  231. @Reg Cæsar
    @ThreeCranes


    According to first-hand accounts brought back by early white explorers and missionaries, African blacks enjoyed watching the slow torture of animals in their death throes. Remorse? Are you kidding? It was recreation for them.
     
    Nouvelle-Aquitaine is in Africa?

    Replies: @jim jones

    Found this on Reddit:

    View post on imgur.com

  232. @Jack D
    @Alden

    I don't think so. Cameras or no cameras there is a dead Australian woman who cannot be explained away. "I was afraid for my life" usually works in front of the jury when the person you have shot it some 400 lb "gentle giant" who really could have torn your arms from your sockets. But not so much when the person who you shot was a petite and pretty unarmed white woman who was just trying to report a rape. In addition, Noor's partner is probably not delighted that his Somali brother in blue sent a bullet whizzing by inches from his head and there will be no "blue wall of silence" for Noor. Noor is going down. He will lose his job at an absolute minimum and will probably end up doing time.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    In addition, Noor’s partner is probably not delighted that his Somali brother in blue sent a bullet whizzing by inches from his head and there will be no “blue wall of silence” for Noor. Noor is going down. He will lose his job at an absolute minimum and will probably end up doing time.

    You would think so, but it hasn’t happened yet. For a lot of police there’s no percentage in going down this road. The cop on duty is always right, period. And a lot of juries think that way to. I’m pretty confident that he’ll have to leave the force, but I’m not going to believe he’s going to do time until the day he gets an inmate number.

    I’m not completely sure about all the details, but a year or so ago, there was a South Carolina sheriff’s deputy who shot and killed a black man running away from on camera, who was so obviously guilty that his own lawyer couldn’t defend him and quit the defense. In any event, I think that guy even got a hung jury. I wouldn’t be putting Officer Noor behind bars just yet.

  233. @Jack Hanson
    @Boethiuss

    Lmbo you didn't vote for Trump. You are a sad weirdo who can't admit he was wrong.

    At every turn people have underestimated Trump and theyve been wrong. You probably are Bill Kristol.

    Replies: @Peripatetic commenter, @Boethiuss

    Lmbo you didn’t vote for Trump. You are a sad weirdo who can’t admit he was wrong.

    Jack you nitwit Urkel you are trying to play gotcha games without any gotchas.

    You go on and on about I (or a hundred others) thought Trump was going to lose to Hillary and think to yourself, “oooh, sick burn bro.” Maybe you haven’t noticed yet, but the rest of the world just ~eyeroll~s you when you do that.

  234. @AM
    @Boethiuss


    But we have to respond to Trump on the basis of who he has shown himself to be.
     
    I have a very positive impression of the man. His integrity and work ethic are something I'd be proud of in anyone. There's a distinct possibility that intellectually he's running circles around almost everyone he meets, particularly in government and the media.

    The assumption that Trump is some sort of incompetent and lazy buffoon and that's so obvious is the very definition of TDS.

    You might be more open to what to finding out what he's doing if you could start to figure out what people who view him positively see in him. I note also you will need to search for his accomplishments because the media will be Russia, Russia, Russia, Twitter! for the next 4 years unless Trump sides steps the media to create headlines of his own.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    I have a very positive impression of the man. His integrity and work ethic are something I’d be proud of in anyone. There’s a distinct possibility that intellectually he’s running circles around almost everyone he meets, particularly in government and the media.

    Hmm, I wondering what leads to think that. I think his energy level is pretty good, especially for 70. But beyond that, it’s all bad.

    His work ethic is notoriously horrible. He spends his time golfing, Tweeting, and watching television. We knew from the campaign that he doesn’t read his briefing papers, and it hasn’t changed since then. Not to mention the plain ignorance of things he should know about on Twitter.

    You might be more open to what to finding out what he’s doing if you could start to figure out what people who view him positively see in him.

    Really, where would I find such things? Everything that I’ve seen suggests that the Trump inner circle leaks like a sieve with all sorts of unflattering information about Trump. What have you seen that leads you to believe otherwise?

  235. AM says:

    His work ethic is notoriously horrible. He spends his time golfing, Tweeting, and watching television.

    Whatever. That’s how people get into office when almost all the people who could help make it happen hate the idea. Yes, he’s quite the loafer by playing 5 holes of golf while hanging out with VIPs.

    I could explain everything I see but it’s a waste of time. I’m not going to be able talk over or around the TDS. It is a madness that I suspect has it’s roots in the envy no one is supposed to have anymore since the deadly sins have been banished for happy talk.

    Really, where would I find such things?

    Whitehouse dot gov would have some information. The Conservative Treehouse (a private blog) as well. Lots of places out there are pro-Trump that are not the MSM.

    Yes, the MSM is spending it’s time convincing you that it’s just total choas on rumors and also not a little bit of envy. The leaks are an issue and a serious one, but I doubt they’re coming from inner circles. Trump inspires a great deal of personal loyalty. It’s the Reality Winners (ha!) who are leaking.

    But again, whatever. I’ve had enough of these conversations to know you’ll have this same attitude 4 years from now. It’s why I abandoned almost all the traditional media for the alt-right sources.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @AM


    I could explain everything I see but it’s a waste of time. I’m not going to be able talk over or around the TDS.
     
    The TDS angle just isn't going to work. There's plenty of things Trump does or has done well, and I have no problem giving him credit where it's due. But overall, we have to conclude that Trump has his own agenda and intentions, that are not our agenda and intentions (and on some days don't even have much to do with each other).

    It's not impossible that you're right, but the overwhelming likelihood is that you're wrong. You're saying that there's some secret squirrel knowledge that I don't have to demonstrate that Trump is really some kind of closet Einstein. Like the matter at hand, we know that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating Trump's connections with Russia, and maybe a hundred other things as well. And this investigation, and the propensity for it to generate criminal charges against people associated with the Trump Administration, is causing serious substantive and political problems right now.

    This is not a figment of an MSM narrative. It is true that the MSM has reported this, but still they are basic facts which have been acknowledged by all parties.

    Given that, how did we get here? Well, either during the transition or shortly after inauguration AG Sessions recused himself from matters related to the Russia investigation because of his meetings with one or two Russians during the campaign. Now, I think Trump has a real beef here in that Sessions should not have recused himself. Those meetings seemed to be entirely pro forma and arose from Sessions' status on whatever Senate Committees he served on.

    But, anyway, it happened. Then Sessions' deputy Ron Rosenstein is cowed or in some other way appoints Mueller as independent counsel.

    Ron Rosenstein should never have been there. He's a career DoJ guy and an Obama leftover as US Attorney for somewhere. It severely strains credibility that the Trump Administration is implementing any meaningful purges when he can't even find a politically reliable lawyer to server as Deputy Attorney General.

    The same with Trump's tweets, his interviews, his feuds, his trashing of subordinates and the rest of it. It just as much strains credibility that there's any kind of secret squirrel knowledge that we could get outside the MSM that outweighs what we can pretty clearly figure out for ourselves.
  236. @Jack D
    @TomSchmidt

    This must be in your head because in reality Rice Crispies contain very little sugar - they are maybe 10% sugar by weight - 3 grams in a 30g (1 oz.) serving (they are mostly carbs). In comparison, dates, a natural fruit, are 60% sugar and raisins are around 1/2 sugar.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @TomSchmidt

    The ingredients list has the first four items:
    Rice, sugar, salt, malt flavoring.

    That latter ingredient likely has a little sugar in it. There’s no question that I never tasted the sweetness of Rice Krispies or Wheaties before stopping eating refined sugar. You only notice the sweetness after you re-sensitize yourself to sugar, like you won’t notice a quiet sound if the louder sound obscuring it isn’t removed. I have noticed how sweet sweetened things are now, with sugar not used as a flavor enhancer but rather an ingredient.

    Dates are extremely sweet, of course, as are raisins or any other form of dried fruit. I avoid those as well.

  237. @Jack D
    @TomSchmidt

    This must be in your head because in reality Rice Crispies contain very little sugar - they are maybe 10% sugar by weight - 3 grams in a 30g (1 oz.) serving (they are mostly carbs). In comparison, dates, a natural fruit, are 60% sugar and raisins are around 1/2 sugar.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @TomSchmidt

    Of course, doing the same thing with salt is also a revelation. I’d bet Rice Krispies without salt are inedible,

  238. @AM

    His work ethic is notoriously horrible. He spends his time golfing, Tweeting, and watching television.
     
    Whatever. That's how people get into office when almost all the people who could help make it happen hate the idea. Yes, he's quite the loafer by playing 5 holes of golf while hanging out with VIPs.

    I could explain everything I see but it's a waste of time. I'm not going to be able talk over or around the TDS. It is a madness that I suspect has it's roots in the envy no one is supposed to have anymore since the deadly sins have been banished for happy talk.

    Really, where would I find such things?
     
    Whitehouse dot gov would have some information. The Conservative Treehouse (a private blog) as well. Lots of places out there are pro-Trump that are not the MSM.

    Yes, the MSM is spending it's time convincing you that it's just total choas on rumors and also not a little bit of envy. The leaks are an issue and a serious one, but I doubt they're coming from inner circles. Trump inspires a great deal of personal loyalty. It's the Reality Winners (ha!) who are leaking.

    But again, whatever. I've had enough of these conversations to know you'll have this same attitude 4 years from now. It's why I abandoned almost all the traditional media for the alt-right sources.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    I could explain everything I see but it’s a waste of time. I’m not going to be able talk over or around the TDS.

    The TDS angle just isn’t going to work. There’s plenty of things Trump does or has done well, and I have no problem giving him credit where it’s due. But overall, we have to conclude that Trump has his own agenda and intentions, that are not our agenda and intentions (and on some days don’t even have much to do with each other).

    It’s not impossible that you’re right, but the overwhelming likelihood is that you’re wrong. You’re saying that there’s some secret squirrel knowledge that I don’t have to demonstrate that Trump is really some kind of closet Einstein. Like the matter at hand, we know that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating Trump’s connections with Russia, and maybe a hundred other things as well. And this investigation, and the propensity for it to generate criminal charges against people associated with the Trump Administration, is causing serious substantive and political problems right now.

    This is not a figment of an MSM narrative. It is true that the MSM has reported this, but still they are basic facts which have been acknowledged by all parties.

    Given that, how did we get here? Well, either during the transition or shortly after inauguration AG Sessions recused himself from matters related to the Russia investigation because of his meetings with one or two Russians during the campaign. Now, I think Trump has a real beef here in that Sessions should not have recused himself. Those meetings seemed to be entirely pro forma and arose from Sessions’ status on whatever Senate Committees he served on.

    But, anyway, it happened. Then Sessions’ deputy Ron Rosenstein is cowed or in some other way appoints Mueller as independent counsel.

    Ron Rosenstein should never have been there. He’s a career DoJ guy and an Obama leftover as US Attorney for somewhere. It severely strains credibility that the Trump Administration is implementing any meaningful purges when he can’t even find a politically reliable lawyer to server as Deputy Attorney General.

    The same with Trump’s tweets, his interviews, his feuds, his trashing of subordinates and the rest of it. It just as much strains credibility that there’s any kind of secret squirrel knowledge that we could get outside the MSM that outweighs what we can pretty clearly figure out for ourselves.

  239. @Dan Hayes
    @Mr. Anon

    Mr. Anon:

    Garrison Kellor - A repulsive creature spawned on the prairie.

    You have him and what he's begotten down to a perfect tee.

    Sincere thanks for pegging him and what he's wrought so well!

    Replies: @lavoisier, @Reg Cæsar

    Garrison Kellor – A repulsive creature spawned on the prairie

    And appropriate revenge for Arne Carlson, a NYC Swede who pulled off a coup in St Paul.

  240. Anonymous [AKA "Atestanto"] says:

    Who can explain why so many normal people get rejected for US visas? For example, my brother who is a really peaceful and honest man.

    But terrorists like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Mohamed Noor easily got visas, green cards and/or citizenship in the United States? Why?

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