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From the New York Times news section:
Virus Numbers Are Surging. Why Is New York’s Vaccine Rollout Sluggish?
With a new variant of the virus emerging elsewhere in the country, it’s crucial to vaccinate New Yorkers quickly. But so far, only about 88,000 have received the shots.By Joseph Goldstein
Jan. 1, 2021… In the first 17 days of the vaccination rollout, about 88,140 people had received the first of two doses,
That’s a little over 5,000 people per day in a city of over 8 million. Heckuva job!
the equivalent of about 1 percent of the city’s population. Those vaccinated so far have overwhelmingly been hospital employees, residents and workers at nursing homes and the staff at certain health clinics.
The pace is worrying some experts. “I do feel concern,” said Dr. Wafaa El-Sadr, an epidemiology professor at Columbia University. Despite months to prepare, there still seemed to be a steep learning curve when it comes to “the nitty-gritty of how do you get it from the freezer to the arm as quickly as possible,” she said. “I think there are growing pains as people are picking up how to do this.”
The first phase should have been the simplest, she added. “We’ve started out with the easiest populations, an almost captive audience: nursing homes and hospital workers — you know who they are and where to find them.”
For now, the vaccination effort does not resemble the sort of mass mobilization many imagined. New York City has yet to open any large vaccination sites. Instead, hospitals administered many of the first vaccinations to their employees. Hospitals have been encouraged to use each shipment of vaccines within a week, and the operation does not always have a race-against-the-clock feel.
The number of vaccinations plummets on weekends and all but stopped for Christmas Day, when more planes landed at Kennedy International Airport than vaccine doses were administered in New York City….
The vaccination program is now in its third week and has yet to accelerate dramatically, even as supply has begun to increase. More than 340,000 doses have been delivered to New York City so far.
On Thursday, Mayor Bill de Blasio said the city planned to have administered doses to one million people by the end of January. He has suggested that the state is acting as a bottleneck by not authorizing the city to open up vaccinations to larger categories of people yet.
“If we’re given the authorization, we can move very quickly,” Mr. de Blasio said this week. “We need the state guidance in terms of the categories of people, and the more that expands, the faster we can go.”
State officials have expressed satisfaction with how the rollout is progressing, saying it makes sense to proceed with a few carefully delineated categories for now. “I’m not here to do 5 percent of the hospital and 5 percent of physicians and 5 percent of home care workers,” said Larry Schwartz, a member of Mr. Cuomo’s coronavirus task force who is overseeing the rollout. “We’re going down the line, and we’re only three weeks in.”
If you wanted to make sure that rapidly expiring vaccines distributed in 10-dose vials end up in the trash, this is how you'd do it pic.twitter.com/kBt5JqDmlD
— Mason (@webdevMason) January 2, 2021
From the Albany Times-Union:
New York’s mass-vaccination plans are shelved as Cuomo takes different path
Cuomo adviser: ‘There has to be a real statewide coordination here, which is what we’re doing’Brendan J. Lyons
Dec. 23, 2020ALBANY — County officials who have for years been planning for a mass vaccination said they are seeing that training and preparation — much of it funded by millions of dollars in federal grants — pushed aside as the administration of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo has retained control of the state’s coronavirus vaccination program, including having hospitals rather than local health departments administer the doses.
Interviews with multiple county officials over the past week confirm that many are unclear why the governor’s administration has not activated the county-by-county system, a plan that included recent practice sessions in which members of the public received regular flu vaccines at drive-thru sites.
In Albany County, officials have privately said they could vaccinate the population of the southern half of the county in a few days if they were given the coronavirus vaccines and allowed to mobilize their plan.
Cuomo has only won an Emmy Award for his playing a governor on TV. Where are his Grammy, Oscar and Tony?
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Covid death rates are starting to pick up again in New Jersey and New York city.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-jersey/
Yeah it’s flu season.Replies: @Paperback Writer
And one of the earliest people to get it was a 36-year-old healthy guy who just walked the 32-mile circumference of Manhattan in 10 hours. It’s called The Great Saunter and I watched some of it live on youtube. He works in healthcare but said he sometimes works remotely so I don’t know if he is a doctor. I don’t think he is.
For any bureaucrat, doing things according to procedure is much more important that whether people live or die. The bureaucrat’s power derives from his control of procedure so control is of the highest importance. If some people die as a result, it’s no sweat off of his back. Mr. Schwartz needs to be tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail and then his views about “going down the line” may change. This is the traditional treatment for public servants who lose sight of their proper goals. Nothing short of that will convince them to loosen the reins.
Why was Joe Biden given that vax, after pissing on the vaccine solution throughout his campaign and specifically its safety and efficacy and how fast it could be rolled out?
The dude is old and white and male and–unlike a lot of white guys–utterly useless.
Besides he’s got a proud woman of color to back him up so he’s hardly an “essential worker”.
New York lawmaker sponsors bill allowing summary detention of anyone who “may be” a “danger to public health”:
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416
To the camps with you!
Got it...
After this bill passes, we should use it to round up politicians and confine them.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-jersey/Replies: @Peterike, @TomSchmidt
“ Covid death rates are starting to pick up again in New Jersey and New York city.”
Yeah it’s flu season.
And the long slide towards third world levels of competence continues.
The dude is old and white and male and--unlike a lot of white guys--utterly useless.
Besides he's got a proud woman of color to back him up so he's hardly an "essential worker".Replies: @Dan Hayes
The President Elect should have an injector tester in any future injections to ensure that the Vice President Elect hadn’t loaded the injection device with strychnine!
…proud woman of color to back him up…
Harris was injected with the Moderna vaccine, Biden the Pfizer.
Makes it a no brainer if given a choice.
A steep learning curve is good. It means you’re learning quickly.
Can you get a medical degree without taking statistics?
Wafaa el-Sadr = A false award.
His father tried to get Dingle Hole erased from the state’s official maps. Sonny probably doesn’t even know where to find the Dingle Hole.
https://youtu.be/exz99v8HejQReplies: @RadicalCenter, @Reg Cæsar
How long is that going to take to create and distribute?
I can hear some segment of the population: “I don’t give a f-k about your certificate... shut the f-k up before I kill your ass...”
I hope not to get this thing so I hope the knuckleheads in my state are as incompetent or worse.
What a stereotypical goombah.Replies: @MEH 0910
Meanwhile, over in the Commonwealth… Will this be counted as Covid? And why are all these young Republican legislators dropping dead?
https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/1345455796298022912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bGNlTAfpKsReplies: @Dan Smith
I RAN the NYC marathon in 1988 under three hours. I’m 70 now. Shouldn’t I get the vaccine before that dip$hit?
Meanwhile over in another nearby commonwealth…. This IS Covid:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/02/virginia-state-sen-ben-chafin-dies-coronavirus/4113879001/
A different person, but in this same article:Literally a meme.
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416
To the camps with you!Replies: @Charon, @Aardvark
Since the CDC has already declared racism and white supremacy as the nation’s #1 health crisis, this should play out in an entertaining (and predictable) fashion.
I wonder what share of the vaccine doses are getting too warm and spoiling.
Given the reported very low general quality of NY metro area hospital staff I can see failures happening with Cuomo's bypassing of the public health infrastructure for hospitals (which I faintly remember he has a good ($$$) relationship with), as well as general failures after removed from a freezer or transport box. Not sure how many of these would actually be noticed vs. just injecting people with partly or entirely spoiled vaccine.
For example, Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine is good for five days in the fridge after getting defrosted. Once diluted with saline solution, you've got to use a vial within six hours. Details here for example.
Moderna's is much less demanding, normal medical freezing and fridge requirements, but there are of course still limits after its defrosted. Contra the "rapidly expiring vaccines distributed in 10-dose vials" claim in that Tweet, it only requires a normal medical freezer in which it's good for six months. After defrosting, if kept between 8 C and 25 C (46 F and 77 F) vials are good for 12 hours unpunctured, that was how ~70 doses were salvaged when that guy deliberately tried to spoil 57 vials he took out of a freezer. Once you have punctured a vial for its first dose, you've got 6 hours to use the rest if kept in the temperature range. Details here for example.Replies: @Jack D
This is deliberate. Its not incompetence. Cuomo loves being on TV every day. He loves destroying people’s lives. He loves total control over people’s lives. He loves making people poor. He loves locking every one down. Forever.
Vaccination and the end of the Corona-Chan crisis would be a disaster for him. Same for Newsom in California, DeWine in Ohio, Whitmer in Michigan, etc.
Cuomo wants to keep Corona going as long as possible. So he can bankrupt every small business in the state. So he can destroy people’s lives. So he can make the mass of the people poor. What does he care? He will get unlimited federal bail out money from Biden. No more compromises, and other icky stuff with dirt people who run bars, restaurants, factories, farms, etc. when he can just get cash from Old Mumbly Joe.
Cuomo like all the big shots are sick of dirt people. Not willing to tolerate them any longer. He probably will send all his dirt people to prison camps, to be worked until they die. That’s your civic nationalism Steve.
Government hates you. Wants you dead. As do all the big companies, from Wal-Mart to P&G.
They want people to die and especially old white people. The destruction is deliberate. And it's going to continue until white people revolt or are all in prison camps as you say.
Sailer is here bleating feebly about "why can't I get a vaccine? Surely , heh, I'll get it soon, heh??" Starting to get nervous, eh civnat?
Sorry Steve you might never get it. Just like the legalization of heroin, release of african criminals, and refusal of the DAs to persecute criminals, this is a deliberate attempt to destroy the usa.Replies: @Ragno
Instead they want everyone to be a sluggish wage slaved, addictaed to buying the latest trendy product and trashy food. They want consumer serfdom, not death.
All that said, I've read that Walmart might have done a better job getting the vaccine to people than the gov't is doing.
I got vaccinated last week.
You couldn’t just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital’s appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn’t have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don’t make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing–shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.
That said I'm >70 anyway so I didn't feel that guilty getting it.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
What you describe is not possible, because the papers reported this morning again, like every morning, that every patriotic hospital and parking lot is full of COVID patients and that now it's not a lack of beds but a lack of staff that is the issue because all the doctors and nurses are working 23 hours a day barely keeping the hospital system, nay, society, from collapse.
So , instead of 150 to 200 shots per hour achievable with 4 manned stations, you are getting 16 per hour. Considering the actual risk factor, pushing all injected patients into a waiting area immediately where they could be observed by one nurse per 50 patients, would be ample precaution. On the other hand they would have less time to view facebook so it's a tough call.Replies: @Dissident, @SimpleSong
Sounds like you earned it. Good doggie!
I also suspect that w/ the COVID vax, they keep people apart at least six feel afterwards so waiting area may be limited to space available. That might also slow down the process. They could do this much quicker and find gyms, meeting spaces, etc. for mass production.
So they said "EMERGENCY' but it isn't. Once those Better Than You (and me) get theirs, no rush.
I am eligible now due to age but the current process is very slow and requires a lot of processing, etc.
So no hurry. Maybe in a month or two if zombiefication isn't a side effect.
This reminds me. The top-flight co-operative buildings in Manhattan permit no more than 50% financing–many of the ultra-exclusive buildings permit no financing at all.
Can you imagine a more ‘disparate’ policy? Co-op board considerations are notoriously secretive, but this particular spec is put right out there in real-estate listings.
In so many other arenas of life, strictures are falling by the wayside no matter what their actual purpose might be, so long as it can be shown that they disadvantage [privileged] minorities. Seems like we could start here, so that the actual power players in our society might feel it for once. Then we can move on to Greenwich, Palm Beach, the Hamptons, Atherton, Montecito and Malibu.
And sure, that's gonna generate disparate impact, but famously co-op boards can turn you down for any reason or no reason at all, so the financing bar is somewhat beside the point here. I have no idea how this is legally possible nowadays, but apparently it is. I guess the rich and powerful like it that way, as you indicate.
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1345124983593435141
https://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/1345519977600716800Replies: @Kronos, @Steve Sailer, @Aardvark, @JerseyJeffersonian
Any theories on why New York might want to slow-walk the vaccine distribution and injection numbers?
Like more federal aid and such.
Look at this paragraph Steve quoted:
“For now, the vaccination effort does not resemble the mass mobilization many imagined. New York City has yet to open any mass vaccination sites. Instead, hospitals administered many of the first vaccinations to their employees. Hospitals have been encouraged to use each shipment of vaccines within a week, and the operation does not always have a race- against-the-clock feel.”
Get a load of that last phrase: “the operation does not always have a race-against-the-clock feel.” Talk about a candidate for the Euphemism Hall of Fame…
What on earth could that possibly mean?
It means C.P.T. is real. Very, very real.
You couldn't just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital's appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn't have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don't make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing--shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.Replies: @SimpleSong, @Kronos, @vhrm, @Ed, @kaganovitch, @Bill Jones, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Muggles
I should add, based, on my personal experience, that it shouldn’t be prioritized for ‘health care workers’ in general, but rather a sliver of high risk healthcare workers. That is, people who work in nursing homes, the emergency department, the ICU. I was a little sheepish getting vaccinated because I thought the work I do was a little borderline but I ran into a 40ish orthopedic surgeon who basically just does knee surgeries on healthy athletes and a plastic surgeon who does boob jobs and both of them had gotten vaccinated. If pressed they would say, well, sometimes I do boob jobs on 70 year olds… Regardless those sorts of providers should probably not be in the first cohort.
That said I’m >70 anyway so I didn’t feel that guilty getting it.
In the general direction of herd immunity, reducing the possible transmission chains helps, including for those who don't get the vaccine or for whom it doesn't work (~5%). Everywhere I've read that's gotten pushed to extremes of hospital capacity are staff limited, there's no conventional reserves left in the US (and only the retired would qualify, lots of training and experience needed for infection control etc.), so the fewer who are out because of COVID-19 infections or exposures the better off you are, including future crunches as they changed from for example my part of flyover country to southern California in the last few weeks.
"For now, the vaccination effort does not resemble the mass mobilization many imagined. New York City has yet to open any mass vaccination sites. Instead, hospitals administered many of the first vaccinations to their employees. Hospitals have been encouraged to use each shipment of vaccines within a week, and the operation does not always have a race- against-the-clock feel."
Get a load of that last phrase: "the operation does not always have a race-against-the-clock feel." Talk about a candidate for the Euphemism Hall of Fame...
What on earth could that possibly mean?
It means C.P.T. is real. Very, very real.Replies: @Kronos
What’s C.P.T.?
(By the way, as you know from having read the David Garrow biography, Himself has had previous difficulty finishing a book on schedule: when he missed several deadlines on his first book, Simon & Schuster cancelled his contract, requiring his literary agent to find a new publisher fast, lest Himself be required to repay his advance, which of course he had already spent.)
...and you're asking, "what's C.P.T.?"Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Kronos, @bomag, @Dissident
Vaccination and the end of the Corona-Chan crisis would be a disaster for him. Same for Newsom in California, DeWine in Ohio, Whitmer in Michigan, etc.
Cuomo wants to keep Corona going as long as possible. So he can bankrupt every small business in the state. So he can destroy people's lives. So he can make the mass of the people poor. What does he care? He will get unlimited federal bail out money from Biden. No more compromises, and other icky stuff with dirt people who run bars, restaurants, factories, farms, etc. when he can just get cash from Old Mumbly Joe.
Cuomo like all the big shots are sick of dirt people. Not willing to tolerate them any longer. He probably will send all his dirt people to prison camps, to be worked until they die. That's your civic nationalism Steve.
Government hates you. Wants you dead. As do all the big companies, from Wal-Mart to P&G.Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous, @Buffalo Joe, @Days of Broken Arrows
But how does this impact his re-election chances? Will New York citizens have him eventually recalled or vote in droves to oust him as governor?
Is this evidence of “The Big Flush?” That by providing minimal financial support and implementing financially ruinous lockdowns he can flush the undesirables out of New York?
What corona has done is caused a bunch of taxpayers, including me, to leave. That’s not good for Cuomo, DiBlasio or any other NY politician. The poor are staying right where they are. This isn’t part of anyone’s master plan, which is obvious if you just spend five seconds thinking.
Stop being stupid.Replies: @Whiskey
You couldn't just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital's appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn't have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don't make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing--shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.Replies: @SimpleSong, @Kronos, @vhrm, @Ed, @kaganovitch, @Bill Jones, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Muggles
Which vaccination did you receive? I’m assuming you didn’t receive either the Chinese or Russian vaccinations.
It means, “Colored People’s Time.”
You just read a “memoir,” really a narcissistic piece of bilge, that a competent writer (together with a team of researchers) could have put together in maybe 18 months — yet it took Himself three years and change to write the thing, while he was otherwise unencumbered by gainful employment (and had been paid an advance in the tens of millions of dollars). And this is no first-time author, either: he had two prior published books, Dreams From My Father and The Audacity of Hope.
(By the way, as you know from having read the David Garrow biography, Himself has had previous difficulty finishing a book on schedule: when he missed several deadlines on his first book, Simon & Schuster cancelled his contract, requiring his literary agent to find a new publisher fast, lest Himself be required to repay his advance, which of course he had already spent.)
…and you’re asking, “what’s C.P.T.?”
Just as soon as I can
And if I be a little bit late
I hope that you’ll understand—Wilson Pickett, “634-5789”Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
(Given the broader topic, I was thinking along the lines of Chronic Pulmonary Trauma...)There is a basic protocol with regard to abbreviations, acronyms and initialisms that they should be spelled-out the first-time they are used in a given piece-of-writing. It appears rather clear that more than a few others here would welcome if more posters observed that courtesy. Is it too much to expect?
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Re: the icons accompanying quoted Tweeter webdevMason's posting handle: My guess is that the first indicates being a runner, and the third affiliation with the film industry. What is the middle one, the scissor, supposed to indicate? "Cut the malarkey"?
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@ Escher:"We're slipping and sliding into third-worldism."How many readers recognize and be able to identify the source of that quote?Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @vinteuil, @Bubba
(By the way, as you know from having read the David Garrow biography, Himself has had previous difficulty finishing a book on schedule: when he missed several deadlines on his first book, Simon & Schuster cancelled his contract, requiring his literary agent to find a new publisher fast, lest Himself be required to repay his advance, which of course he had already spent.)
...and you're asking, "what's C.P.T.?"Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Kronos, @bomag, @Dissident
Oh, I’ll be there
Just as soon as I can
And if I be a little bit late
I hope that you’ll understand
—Wilson Pickett, “634-5789”
You been running all over the town now,
Oh! Guess I'll have to put your flat feet on the ground..."
My summary would differ. Language is not so much about perception than about memory.
And then I’d hint at the direct language-path from memory to action. We indeed do things with words (John Austin). – And – we live by metaphors.-
cf. George Lakoff: Women, Fire and Dangerous Things and
– Metaphors we Live by (1980 – written with Mark Johnson).
You couldn't just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital's appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn't have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don't make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing--shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.Replies: @SimpleSong, @Kronos, @vhrm, @Ed, @kaganovitch, @Bill Jones, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Muggles
Comrade, clearly the understandable swelling of pride when receiving the Vaccine, peace be upon it, has affected your memory of the experience.
What you describe is not possible, because the papers reported this morning again, like every morning, that every patriotic hospital and parking lot is full of COVID patients and that now it’s not a lack of beds but a lack of staff that is the issue because all the doctors and nurses are working 23 hours a day barely keeping the hospital system, nay, society, from collapse.
(By the way, as you know from having read the David Garrow biography, Himself has had previous difficulty finishing a book on schedule: when he missed several deadlines on his first book, Simon & Schuster cancelled his contract, requiring his literary agent to find a new publisher fast, lest Himself be required to repay his advance, which of course he had already spent.)
...and you're asking, "what's C.P.T.?"Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Kronos, @bomag, @Dissident
To be fair, I thought the “C” had something to do with COVID and thus my train of thought went toward a different direction.
Obama himself and his family blame being raised in Hawaii for any “time dilation” Barry has encountered throughout his life. It’s likely the best Trump card Michelle has over Barry even if LSAT tests wasn’t her thing. Even Sailer himself wondered in his Obama book on the nature/nurture effects of Obama’s laziness.
Spin Cycle ! Spin Cycle ! Spin Cycle !
Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/240-israelis-diagnosed-after-vaccination-underscore-need-for-continued-vigilance/
Is it effective? Is it safe? Sure. Might it actually trigger COVID … Nahhh! Has it killed people? Well, some people died, but they were old and immunocompromised, so it couldn’t have been the vaxx.
Now, roll up your sleeve, slave!
A little comic relief from Susie Essman who, along with Joy Beyhar, ugly-shamed the bulldog I was walking through Central Park one day. The poor creature never got over it, dying of a broken hear some weeks later. Or maybe it was time-travelling COVID that got him. Who knows?
You give the answer in your quote - Pfizer’s shot only begins having an effect 8-10 days after first injection, and only reaches full potential after the second dose, so you can still get Covid until after your 2nd dose.
And how dare those people die after getting the shot - don't they know that if you get the shot you can never die?
But I guess if you are dumb or malicious enough, you can twist the causation around and say that the vaccine triggers Covid and that wet streets cause rain.
Just as soon as I can
And if I be a little bit late
I hope that you’ll understand—Wilson Pickett, “634-5789”Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
“Mustang Sally, guess you better slow your mustang down (repeat),
You been running all over the town now,
Oh! Guess I’ll have to put your flat feet on the ground…”
Can you get a medical degree without taking statistics?
Wafaa el-Sadr = A false award.His father tried to get Dingle Hole erased from the state's official maps. Sonny probably doesn't even know where to find the Dingle Hole.Replies: @BB753
If this doesn’t make it to photo of the year, I’ll eat my hat. DiBlasio dancing with wife with their face huggers on, in an empty Times Square, as the NYPD looks on.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/6rFtcRpN8NpKyEHASVhV5o-970-80.jpg.webp
However, it wouldn't have been consensual for anyone else-- Detroyt Wilhelm saw to that. That's why they had so much room to maneuver!Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
You couldn't just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital's appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn't have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don't make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing--shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.Replies: @SimpleSong, @Kronos, @vhrm, @Ed, @kaganovitch, @Bill Jones, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Muggles
A friend said the exact same thing, her arm was more sore than after she gets her flu shot. Other than that no issue. I’m still not getting it though
Laziness, incompetence, and diversity prioritization?
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1345124983593435141
https://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/1345519977600716800Replies: @Kronos, @Steve Sailer, @Aardvark, @JerseyJeffersonian
Thanks.
Nah, that’s useless. Bureaucratic mentality is ineradicable. Read Kafka.
Does it ever occur to any of you that if these people are far too stupendously shit-ass incompetent to even distribute the vaccines, they are far too stupendously shit-ass incompetent to make effective vaccines?
No? Nary a concern?
Yep. You have no idea how dumb, and indifferent, these people are. Where you can conceivable excuse, or mitigate, his early nursing home fiasco and blame it on panic (this cementing the fact he’s a bad leader), there’s no reasonable excuse for this. Or the CDC’s “slide show.”
They simply don’t care, and will follow whatever shallow current they think will keep them in power.
We’re already there.
Suppose Cuomo were trying to kill as many people as possible, but without it becoming too obvious that that’s what he was trying to do.
What would he be doing differently?
He's also shown a decided preference in favoring the NYC metro area while outright raiding upstate New York of PPE, and he was threatening to do that with respirators, which got too much attention and I think didn't get very far, or get anywhere at all.
For whomever is looking closely at Cuomo and the state, trying using those details to see if patterns are emerging. See also previous comments on how very bad NYC metro area nursing staff are, which I assume includes a lot of administrative staff. Not all hospitals of course, but more than enough. Note we've already learned members of a certain group were caught boasting about diverting vaccine supplies for themselves; perhaps others have the wit to maintain INFOSEC about their diversions.Replies: @additionalMike
Mr. Sailer is still apparently proceeding on the false premises that this virus is uniquely dangerous compared to other recent flu strains, and that the vaccine is therefore worth risking. These doctors reach a different conclusion, as do many other doctors and scientists not being paid or threatened to say otherwise: http://www.swprs.org.
Vaccines from a systematically dishonest, cruel, totalitarian set of “authorities” and their liability-protected corporate cronies, for a virus whose alleged death statistics have been intentionally inflated and fabricated from the beginning — and Mr. Sailer thinks the government should be more “competent” at injecting the right people more quickly with these vaccines. Respectfully, that doesn’t make sense.
Now if we ever do have a truly unusually deadly virus, the malice and incompetence of our rulers will be a threat to our lives and health … if ill will or idiocy causes them to delay making vaccines available to higher-risk groups whom they hate.
This article is about incompetence or bias in distributing a vaccine that nobody should be forced or pressured to take, and that is probably not worth the risk for most people even if it remains truly voluntary (which it likely will not).
https://youtu.be/exz99v8HejQReplies: @RadicalCenter, @Reg Cæsar
He seems a lot happier since her face is covered all the time.
Agree, and the cohort for this is huge — see any hurricane response for some more in-your-face inactivity in time of crisis; and the non-critical functions are three times worse.
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416
To the camps with you!Replies: @Charon, @Aardvark
So, they were itching to let prisoners out of prison because they were confined too closely and something spreading. Now they want to be able to confine people that are a danger to public health.
Got it…
After this bill passes, we should use it to round up politicians and confine them.
The “other” arm is supposed to be sore… ala Faucci…
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1345124983593435141
https://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/1345519977600716800Replies: @Kronos, @Steve Sailer, @Aardvark, @JerseyJeffersonian
I’m curious about this “eligibility certificate”.
How long is that going to take to create and distribute?
I can hear some segment of the population: “I don’t give a f-k about your certificate… shut the f-k up before I kill your ass…”
I hope not to get this thing so I hope the knuckleheads in my state are as incompetent or worse.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/02/virginia-state-sen-ben-chafin-dies-coronavirus/4113879001/Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
Finally, ONE politician has finally died, after almost a year. He was only 60.
A different person, but in this same article:
Literally a meme.
“But how does this impact his re-election chances?”. Elections. Elections?! Hahahahahaha. He said “Elections”. Heeheehahaha. This guy cracks me up!
There is an expectation of the public that once the vaxxing is done, the lockdows will lay off, so they are in no hurry.
https://youtu.be/ZvBuDSOsNZQ
The Dems are getting pretty good at dialing in election results.
Indeed. Our overlords are anxious to build a Skynet with scant concern that the thing will turn on them.
I’m reminded of the Fred Saberhagen Berserker series; the Builder race creates a doomsday machine to wipe out the enemy Red Tribe (heh), but the machine turns on the Builders and wipes them out.
” his re-election chances?” 100% …..he controls the voting machines in NY….just watch ,that’s all you can do now.
The mask has finally fallen . Welcome to the third world, America. Incompetence, corruption and spite reign supreme.
(By the way, as you know from having read the David Garrow biography, Himself has had previous difficulty finishing a book on schedule: when he missed several deadlines on his first book, Simon & Schuster cancelled his contract, requiring his literary agent to find a new publisher fast, lest Himself be required to repay his advance, which of course he had already spent.)
...and you're asking, "what's C.P.T.?"Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Kronos, @bomag, @Dissident
Quite a bit of opinion that this book ended up ghost written; the second book obviously so.
I took for granted the big book deal would be carefully shepherded by editors and ghost writers. Maybe Obama’s laziness is so complete that it defeated these efforts for two years.
Another issue I’m sure he deeply struggled with writing the book was in regards to the Clintons. The Obama Administration was essentially Bill Clinton’s third term; with Larry Summers and Rahm Emanuel leading the way. In his recent biography, he’s quite sympathetic to George W. Bush and professed to enjoy his company. (He tries to paint Hillary in a positive light but it feels much more forced.*) I’d wager Obama felt kinship toward Bush II in having his own early Presidency hijacked by outside forces. Bush II got scragged by the Neocons with the Iraq War and Obama was chained to an unpopular healthcare bill that drained his political capital.
https://youtu.be/nopWOC4SRm4
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/chameleon-pets-herpetology-reptiles-cold-blooded-animal-im-more-confused-than-a-chameleon-gift-thomas-larch.jpg
*Maybe the reason Barack kept Michelle’s mother in the White House was to use her expert knowledge of African American voodoo magic. That this alone could protect Obama from Hillary’s occult witchcraft.
Since the vaccine does not contain any virus, that’s 100% impossible.
You give the answer in your quote – Pfizer’s shot only begins having an effect 8-10 days after first injection, and only reaches full potential after the second dose, so you can still get Covid until after your 2nd dose.
And how dare those people die after getting the shot – don’t they know that if you get the shot you can never die?
But I guess if you are dumb or malicious enough, you can twist the causation around and say that the vaccine triggers Covid and that wet streets cause rain.
The ridiculously slow rollout is proof tbat the incompetence of the US response isn’t simply the failure of the Trump Administration, but of the US political cultural generally – lazy, hidebound, more obsessed with rules and regulations and lawsuits than getting the job done efficiently (or at all), and guided by ideological insanity.
How bad do you have to be when the state leading the pack in vaccination rates, West Virginia, is one not generally known for its competence and efficiency?
NY has promised to punish "wreckers" who deviate from their Five Year Plan (that's how long it's going to take to vaccinate everyone at the current rate) and is doing their best to stamp out any effort at individual initiative and improvisation. This is the same method that produced such wonderful results in the Soviet Union.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1345124983593435141
https://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/1345519977600716800Replies: @Kronos, @Steve Sailer, @Aardvark, @JerseyJeffersonian
The man needs to don a funny round hat with a tassle, wear jodphurs, perfect a pouty scowl, as well as master the placement of his hands on his hips while simultaneously rocking up on the balls of his feet on a balcony. Maybe a little stabbing at the air while issuing his pronouncements would reinforce the utter seriosness of his “resolve”.
What a stereotypical goombah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7erAVaZPOE
New York gets its vaccine in slo-mo;
thanks, Governor Andrew M. Cuomo!
Nobody who’s thrifty
pays twenty-two fifty
for such a self-evident chromo!
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/1ff7da74-ae62-4743-8695-0d0f54cc33f2#cOuhQR6RfVd.copy
New York gets its vaccine in slo-mo;
thanks, Governor Andrew M. Cuomo!
You sure ain’t the man some
girls think of as handsome;
not like Salvatore Bellomo.
Charon. Bingo! Catch of the week. Covid is really far down the line of threats to the health of POC. Obesity, hypertension, sleep deprivation , malnutrition are all now linked to “systemic racism” the real killer in America. I remember seeing Roxanne Gay, at about a solid 450 pounds, on stage with a group of obese black women discussing how racism “caused’ their obesity. Talk was sponsored by the ever slim Oprah.
How bad do you have to be when the state leading the pack in vaccination rates, West Virginia, is one not generally known for its competence and efficiency?Replies: @Jack D, @That Would Be Telling
The difference is that W. Va. is running the vaccinations through its normal public health establishment (perhaps mediocre but they are doing their best) vs NY where the process has been politicized and is being personally supervised by Il Duce Cuomo. If you are looking for poor results, maliciousness beats ordinary incompetence every time.
NY has promised to punish “wreckers” who deviate from their Five Year Plan (that’s how long it’s going to take to vaccinate everyone at the current rate) and is doing their best to stamp out any effort at individual initiative and improvisation. This is the same method that produced such wonderful results in the Soviet Union.
Vaccination and the end of the Corona-Chan crisis would be a disaster for him. Same for Newsom in California, DeWine in Ohio, Whitmer in Michigan, etc.
Cuomo wants to keep Corona going as long as possible. So he can bankrupt every small business in the state. So he can destroy people's lives. So he can make the mass of the people poor. What does he care? He will get unlimited federal bail out money from Biden. No more compromises, and other icky stuff with dirt people who run bars, restaurants, factories, farms, etc. when he can just get cash from Old Mumbly Joe.
Cuomo like all the big shots are sick of dirt people. Not willing to tolerate them any longer. He probably will send all his dirt people to prison camps, to be worked until they die. That's your civic nationalism Steve.
Government hates you. Wants you dead. As do all the big companies, from Wal-Mart to P&G.Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous, @Buffalo Joe, @Days of Broken Arrows
Thank you, you seem to be the only one who understands.
They want people to die and especially old white people. The destruction is deliberate. And it’s going to continue until white people revolt or are all in prison camps as you say.
Sailer is here bleating feebly about “why can’t I get a vaccine? Surely , heh, I’ll get it soon, heh??” Starting to get nervous, eh civnat?
Sorry Steve you might never get it. Just like the legalization of heroin, release of african criminals, and refusal of the DAs to persecute criminals, this is a deliberate attempt to destroy the usa.
But Steve Sailer the claims adjuster, or Steve Sailer the lathe operator....? Different kettle of fish. And Steve Sailer the bar owner might as well start pricing coffins now, while he's still feeling pretty lively.
Vaccination and the end of the Corona-Chan crisis would be a disaster for him. Same for Newsom in California, DeWine in Ohio, Whitmer in Michigan, etc.
Cuomo wants to keep Corona going as long as possible. So he can bankrupt every small business in the state. So he can destroy people's lives. So he can make the mass of the people poor. What does he care? He will get unlimited federal bail out money from Biden. No more compromises, and other icky stuff with dirt people who run bars, restaurants, factories, farms, etc. when he can just get cash from Old Mumbly Joe.
Cuomo like all the big shots are sick of dirt people. Not willing to tolerate them any longer. He probably will send all his dirt people to prison camps, to be worked until they die. That's your civic nationalism Steve.
Government hates you. Wants you dead. As do all the big companies, from Wal-Mart to P&G.Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous, @Buffalo Joe, @Days of Broken Arrows
Whiskey, the “Agree” button is not enough in this case. cuomo wants to be FDR with the fire side chats. Trouble is he causes more problems than he solves. Did I mention I loathe cuomo?
How bad do you have to be when the state leading the pack in vaccination rates, West Virginia, is one not generally known for its competence and efficiency?Replies: @Jack D, @That Would Be Telling
Fixed it for you. It could take as little as one bloody minded public health official not taking much holiday time off and being extremely diligent in getting reports from those giving the shots and reporting them up to the CDC. It’s not likely due to medical competence (which is a different thing than doling out vaccinations, where again a few competent people could make a big difference in such a small state), the state hates doctors with an incandescent heat, has for example a special tax just on them. You really don’t want to get a serious traumatic injury and go to a WV ER to have your life saved. Or at least all that was true as of the end of the last century, perhaps they’ve improved their policies and people in the last couple of decades.
But the local news reporting on vaccinations in Utah said that it’s been slow here, too. It isn’t the reporting. They weren’t prepared. This pandemic shut down the whole fracking country, it’s been the lead story for nine months now, and they weren’t prepared to administer a simple vaccine. The patient comes in, hopefully with all the paperwork done online, gets a little alcohol rub, a jab, and a bandaid. Not that hard. One nurse could give a hundred vaccinations before her first covfefe break if she tried a little. If they had enough doses they could run the damn clinics 24/7.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
I got my seasonal flu shot at my doctor’s office. No appointment. They had sent out a card giving you a date and time frame. Arrive at office, parked, walked into an adjacent office, Nurse scanned my temp, I walked to a desk, gave my name and DOB, walked to a curtained station, sat down, rolled up sleeeve, received shot and left. About 5 minutes tops. Line in and out the doors. One doctor and his staff, no government helpers.
NY has promised to punish "wreckers" who deviate from their Five Year Plan (that's how long it's going to take to vaccinate everyone at the current rate) and is doing their best to stamp out any effort at individual initiative and improvisation. This is the same method that produced such wonderful results in the Soviet Union.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
Agree. Decisions on how to administer the vaccine should be made by healthcare professionals and should not be interfered with by politicians.
Health officials should tell politicians to drop dead.
Harris was injected with the Moderna vaccine, Biden the Pfizer.
Makes it a no brainer if given a choice.Replies: @Jay jay at nite
The bopsy twins, Are now safe, from what? Could have been, a mix up? One, wears, man’s clothing, the other sniffs, hair, and attacks, from behind. Beware, of Greeks, bearing, gifts!
I was just now listening to NPR radio here in Ecuador on my Alexa, and they were saying that people in Florida were scrambling to find websites where they could make appointments to come and get covid shots, whereas in countries like Britain and Belgium the health providers were calling the patients and telling them when to come in for their shots, based on who is at the highest risk.
Which system would work better and why?
Trump is still president and Cuomo wants to kill as many of his constituents as possible before Biden takes office. That was his rationale for killing tens of thousands of New Yorkers last year by shoving infected patients in nursing homes and throwing a fit when Rhode Island turned away New York plates (what happened to Hubei province during the initial outbreak?)
When I was looking up Pfizer/BioNTech freezing details, I noticed not only are plenty of ultra low temperature (ULT) freezers are being borrowed and rented, but plenty of dry ice is being ordered in New York state and city in the first sets of Bing hits I got, and elsewhere of course. Pfizer has some pretty intense suggestions to try to ensure doses kept in their transport boxes get kept cold enough, from my reading of the link below each box has a device which can be programmed to email or text message up to four people. However the re-dry icing requirements are not intense, do it within 24 hours of delivery, then every five days.
Given the reported very low general quality of NY metro area hospital staff I can see failures happening with Cuomo’s bypassing of the public health infrastructure for hospitals (which I faintly remember he has a good ($$$) relationship with), as well as general failures after removed from a freezer or transport box. Not sure how many of these would actually be noticed vs. just injecting people with partly or entirely spoiled vaccine.
For example, Pfizer/BioNTech’s vaccine is good for five days in the fridge after getting defrosted. Once diluted with saline solution, you’ve got to use a vial within six hours. Details here for example.
Moderna’s is much less demanding, normal medical freezing and fridge requirements, but there are of course still limits after its defrosted. Contra the “rapidly expiring vaccines distributed in 10-dose vials” claim in that Tweet, it only requires a normal medical freezer in which it’s good for six months. After defrosting, if kept between 8 C and 25 C (46 F and 77 F) vials are good for 12 hours unpunctured, that was how ~70 doses were salvaged when that guy deliberately tried to spoil 57 vials he took out of a freezer. Once you have punctured a vial for its first dose, you’ve got 6 hours to use the rest if kept in the temperature range. Details here for example.
Here in the upper midwest, I’ve gotten e-mails, both from my pharmacy and from my doctor’s office, telling me that I can sign up for e-mail updates on vaccine availability and vaccinations. I haven’t bothered because I know I’m way down on the list, and I’m not that jazzed about getting the shot anyway.
Speaking of NPR: Pharmacist Arrested, Accused Of Destroying More Than 500 Moderna Vaccine Doses
Wreckers!
More accurate might be the other prose where they said they gave 57 "patients" doses from these vials which had been removed from the fridge perhaps twice, the guy is know to have pulled this stunt twice, first at night, only caught the second time. They didn't know if the shots would do any good, but they were sure they wouldn't do any more harm than getting a properly handled vaccine dose.
And, yeah, a Wrecker, just as Cuomo is with the
Trump vaccineOperation Warp Speed plans.Having had the chickenpox as a child, I took the new Shingrix vaccine to prevent shingles. I’ve had several relatives hospitalized for shingles and witnessed there pain. It’s a two shots, after the first one I had a very sore arm but I functioned fine. The side effects from the second shot were worse, that evening I had a mini flu. Ran a temperature, had chills etc., It only lasted about four hours. I’m glad I took it, as the pain of shingles is far worse. The thing about covid-19 is you may get a minor case, but it seems to find your comortalities, known and the more scary, the ones you didn’t know about.
As I watch our elected and unelected leaders herd us over the cliff as lemmings I’m wondering how much of an impact on government employee competence is related to the 60s-to-present trend for the best and brightest to avoid careers in public service?
Maybe western woke governments no longer have the capacity to solve complex problems because we are more concerned that our leaders feel good about their leadership than we do their capacity to perform jobs far beyond their confidence.
Maybe for all practical purposes we can understand every government job and role as a sinecure.
“The meek shall inherit the earth” comes to mind.
That said I'm >70 anyway so I didn't feel that guilty getting it.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
There’s still several good reasons to do it. Logistically, getting “all” of one facility covered in “one” effort simplifies the process (scare quotes because of those refusing to get it and the followup second doses).
In the general direction of herd immunity, reducing the possible transmission chains helps, including for those who don’t get the vaccine or for whom it doesn’t work (~5%). Everywhere I’ve read that’s gotten pushed to extremes of hospital capacity are staff limited, there’s no conventional reserves left in the US (and only the retired would qualify, lots of training and experience needed for infection control etc.), so the fewer who are out because of COVID-19 infections or exposures the better off you are, including future crunches as they changed from for example my part of flyover country to southern California in the last few weeks.
My wife is Treasurer of our co-op on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, where the financing limit was just raised to 60% from 50%, which she says is a trend. The thinking is that 60% makes you look more appealing in real estate listings but still guarantees plenty of exclusivity: how many people can plunk down 40% cash on a $2-3mm apartment?
And sure, that’s gonna generate disparate impact, but famously co-op boards can turn you down for any reason or no reason at all, so the financing bar is somewhat beside the point here. I have no idea how this is legally possible nowadays, but apparently it is. I guess the rich and powerful like it that way, as you indicate.
Jesus, stop with the brain-dead conspiracy theories. And don’t respond to that idiot Whiskey’s posts.
What corona has done is caused a bunch of taxpayers, including me, to leave. That’s not good for Cuomo, DiBlasio or any other NY politician. The poor are staying right where they are. This isn’t part of anyone’s master plan, which is obvious if you just spend five seconds thinking.
Stop being stupid.
As noted, Cuomo benefits from a wasteland NY as he can bid to rival De M factions manufacture d votes for Fed funds to skim. He's a goombah like his old man.
Given the reported very low general quality of NY metro area hospital staff I can see failures happening with Cuomo's bypassing of the public health infrastructure for hospitals (which I faintly remember he has a good ($$$) relationship with), as well as general failures after removed from a freezer or transport box. Not sure how many of these would actually be noticed vs. just injecting people with partly or entirely spoiled vaccine.
For example, Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine is good for five days in the fridge after getting defrosted. Once diluted with saline solution, you've got to use a vial within six hours. Details here for example.
Moderna's is much less demanding, normal medical freezing and fridge requirements, but there are of course still limits after its defrosted. Contra the "rapidly expiring vaccines distributed in 10-dose vials" claim in that Tweet, it only requires a normal medical freezer in which it's good for six months. After defrosting, if kept between 8 C and 25 C (46 F and 77 F) vials are good for 12 hours unpunctured, that was how ~70 doses were salvaged when that guy deliberately tried to spoil 57 vials he took out of a freezer. Once you have punctured a vial for its first dose, you've got 6 hours to use the rest if kept in the temperature range. Details here for example.Replies: @Jack D
That’s how doses are going to get wasted. Hospitals are going to use one or two doses from a vial and then they are going to throw out the rest of the vial if they can’t find anyone with the right credentials who is willing to take it within the next few hours because Cuomo is actively threatening to prosecute anyone who gives vaccine to someone without his permission. The hospital is going to give slots to 10 employees but 5 of them won’t show up for one reason or another so they are going to throw the rest of the vial in the trash. Repeat this thousands of times all over the state and you have millions of doses wasted.
In Israel what they are doing in such situations is that they will grab anyone nearby (e.g. adult children who have brought their senior citizen parent to be vaccinated and who are sitting in the waiting room) before they will let even a single dose be wasted. If it’s going to waste anyway, better to give it to someone lower down on the priority list instead of throwing it in the trash. But in America, that might interfere with “equity”. They might give the vaccine to a white man before all the people of color have been vaccinated. That’s unfair to people of color and fairness is the most important thing.
Pennsylvania has received 388,000, and to round out the Blue states that deliberately murdered their Medicad draining nursing home residents, New Jersey which as last count had achieved the highest per capita death rates, 333,000 doses. It's still almost three weeks before Biden gets a chance to achieve his less than Operation Warp Speed goals of vaccination, so perhaps if many doses are getting wasted people will notice. Not that Cuomo cares or will get called on it by our betters, but it's not up to him how many doses his state gets.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-jersey/Replies: @Peterike, @TomSchmidt
NJ already having the worst per-capita death rate in the world.
Vaccination against Covid will sooner or later be understood to have been no more urgent, or useful, or necessary, than vaccination against the common flu.
I can see why you’re a bundle of joy about hospitals wasting doses in Blue states like New York and your’s I presume. But of course first those states have to get “millions of doses” to be able to waste them, as of yesterday New York had only received 682,000, and that includes the Federal Pharmacy Partnership for Long-Term Care Program (CVS and Walgreens) which we should see if Cuomo has the temerity to block (he did claim he was going to block the “Trump vaccines” altogether when Pfizer/BioNTech got their approval).
Pennsylvania has received 388,000, and to round out the Blue states that deliberately murdered their Medicad draining nursing home residents, New Jersey which as last count had achieved the highest per capita death rates, 333,000 doses. It’s still almost three weeks before Biden gets a chance to achieve his less than Operation Warp Speed goals of vaccination, so perhaps if many doses are getting wasted people will notice. Not that Cuomo cares or will get called on it by our betters, but it’s not up to him how many doses his state gets.
Demographics? Let's just say that a winter-spring-fall resident of Brownsville or East New York in Brooklyn, or the Queensbridge Houses in Long Island City (in Queens, not Long Island; just roll with it), could summer in Wyandanch, and feel right at home.Replies: @additionalMike
From the link that I posted you can get death rates down to the county level for the states. The highest I have seen in around 1 in the 200-300s. Is there a site where you can do this for places outside the states ?
Belgium is the worst in Europe, and NY crushes it in deaths per capita. I don't think county makes as much difference, though I'm sure that Bronx county was worse than the state as a whole.Replies: @AKAHorace
New Jersey is dangerous, for reals. Even the Nipper Building in Camden [formerly Building 17, RCA Victor Company, Camden Plant — now The Victor condominiums, marketed as “luxury residences”], named for Nipper — the RCA dog famous for listening to “His Master’s Voice” — has German Shepherd dogs and Rottweilers guarding it. Poor Nipper.
For confirmation of the city’s status as the nation’s most dangerous, ask Camden native son Shakil, he of “Rap City (CMD),” available on YouTube. (Warning: dreadful language, but you could get down to it if you had to, and at the current rate, you probably will. Have to.)
As Amazon’s algorithm says, if you like this sort of thing, then this is the sort of thing you’ll like.
For those non-New Yorkers uncertain about one of the locations Il Duce mentioned — Wyandanch — it’s in Long Island’s Suffolk Country.
Demographics? Let’s just say that a winter-spring-fall resident of Brownsville or East New York in Brooklyn, or the Queensbridge Houses in Long Island City (in Queens, not Long Island; just roll with it), could summer in Wyandanch, and feel right at home.
Besides, WTF is a "health care desert?" The Suffolk County Health Department has been run by a Democratic administration since 2003, and the State Health Department has been also, since 2006, when the last Republican governor left office. So why have they not bought water to the desert?
Cuomo II is becoming increasingly dependent on the press to support his message, and not to ask any hard questions.Replies: @prosa123
At first I thought it was reporting, too. That was one of my comments on an earlier thread in fact.
But the local news reporting on vaccinations in Utah said that it’s been slow here, too. It isn’t the reporting. They weren’t prepared. This pandemic shut down the whole fracking country, it’s been the lead story for nine months now, and they weren’t prepared to administer a simple vaccine. The patient comes in, hopefully with all the paperwork done online, gets a little alcohol rub, a jab, and a bandaid. Not that hard. One nurse could give a hundred vaccinations before her first covfefe break if she tried a little. If they had enough doses they could run the damn clinics 24/7.
Right now, "Phase 1a" as it's generally referred to, if your government is using sane priorities it is vaccinating healthcare workers in hospitals so in short order we won't have to bend the curve so much, and all people in long term care facilities, there's a Federal program using CVS and Walgreens to do that, but that's not the only system, and those are all go to the facility efforts. So only hospitals might be doing what you describe, or worse as Jack D. fears.
If for some reason your state is abandoning the elderly in favor of "essential workers" as the CDC prefers because that ends up killing more (old) white people even at the cost of killing lots more old black people, you've got a different set of problems. Or the media is lying to throw shade on Trump, which is nearly a certainty, no matter how Red state your local area is. Or your use of "covfefe" tells us you're lying.Replies: @Wilkey
First there were food deserts and now there are healthcare deserts, to add to all of the “bad schools” which are bad merely because little black children only have other little black children to sit next to.
Amazing how awful Governor Cuomo’s state can be. He needs to install someone amazing as New York City mayor to fix all that. Maybe someone super smart. Probably Jewish. Someone who has proven his mettle by becoming a self-made Master of the Universe billionaire. Give him 12 years to seat what he can do, and go from there. Absent one of those, maybe some Germanic guy who’s proven his anti-racism by marrying a black lesbian.
https://www.health.ny.gov/commissioner/bio/#:~:text=Dr.%20Howard%20A.%20Zucker%20is%20Commissioner%20of%20Health,and%20end%20the%20AIDS%20epidemic%20in%20New%20York.Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
I once made the mistake of stopping at a liquor store in Camden that was located on the approach road to the bridge that takes you into Philly. Once I was in the parking lot I realized that there was a public housing project located right behind the store. Standing at the front of the store was an armed guard with a 1911 on his hip and the guy looked kinda nervous and ready to use it.
Vaccination and the end of the Corona-Chan crisis would be a disaster for him. Same for Newsom in California, DeWine in Ohio, Whitmer in Michigan, etc.
Cuomo wants to keep Corona going as long as possible. So he can bankrupt every small business in the state. So he can destroy people's lives. So he can make the mass of the people poor. What does he care? He will get unlimited federal bail out money from Biden. No more compromises, and other icky stuff with dirt people who run bars, restaurants, factories, farms, etc. when he can just get cash from Old Mumbly Joe.
Cuomo like all the big shots are sick of dirt people. Not willing to tolerate them any longer. He probably will send all his dirt people to prison camps, to be worked until they die. That's your civic nationalism Steve.
Government hates you. Wants you dead. As do all the big companies, from Wal-Mart to P&G.Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous, @Buffalo Joe, @Days of Broken Arrows
I agree about Cuomo. But disagree about Walmart. They don’t want you dead — because then you couldn’t buy from them.
Instead they want everyone to be a sluggish wage slaved, addictaed to buying the latest trendy product and trashy food. They want consumer serfdom, not death.
All that said, I’ve read that Walmart might have done a better job getting the vaccine to people than the gov’t is doing.
You couldn't just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital's appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn't have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don't make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing--shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.Replies: @SimpleSong, @Kronos, @vhrm, @Ed, @kaganovitch, @Bill Jones, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Muggles
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn’t have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don’t make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
So , instead of 150 to 200 shots per hour achievable with 4 manned stations, you are getting 16 per hour. Considering the actual risk factor, pushing all injected patients into a waiting area immediately where they could be observed by one nurse per 50 patients, would be ample precaution. On the other hand they would have less time to view facebook so it’s a tough call.
Cuomo could also win a Nobel. I remember some Clinton underling getting the double Nobel-Oscar for the same movie.
If everyone is vaccinated, how does Andy justify his daily authoritarian caprice? It’s almost as if these Democrat martinets enjoy bossing people around.
Indeed. And if Cuomo said that all New Yorkers had to walk around with a thumb up their ass in public to stop Covid, you’d get about 75% compliance in the City.Replies: @John Up North
(By the way, as you know from having read the David Garrow biography, Himself has had previous difficulty finishing a book on schedule: when he missed several deadlines on his first book, Simon & Schuster cancelled his contract, requiring his literary agent to find a new publisher fast, lest Himself be required to repay his advance, which of course he had already spent.)
...and you're asking, "what's C.P.T.?"Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Kronos, @bomag, @Dissident
Yes. I was glad to see that I was not alone in being clueless, and thank Bubba for providing the answer.
(Given the broader topic, I was thinking along the lines of Chronic Pulmonary Trauma…)
There is a basic protocol with regard to abbreviations, acronyms and initialisms that they should be spelled-out the first-time they are used in a given piece-of-writing. It appears rather clear that more than a few others here would welcome if more posters observed that courtesy. Is it too much to expect?
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Re: the icons accompanying quoted Tweeter webdevMason‘s posting handle:
My guess is that the first indicates being a runner, and the third affiliation with the film industry. What is the middle one, the scissor, supposed to indicate? “Cut the malarkey”?
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@ Escher:
“We’re slipping and sliding into third-worldism.”
How many readers recognize and be able to identify the source of that quote?
LOL? Well, OK, everybody knows that. But CPT?Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-remarks-abyssinian-baptist-church-i-will-not-take-vaccine-until-vaccine
We've had months to do this, I've followed in passing my state working on their's, and as plans moved to operations locally it seems to be working, one hospital rented a ultra low temperature (ULT) freezer and is entirely using Pfizer, even using that capacity according to the first report to store their second doses, while another first got Moderna, then recently got a set of Pfizer/BioNTech which I assume was planned so they'd have already worked the kinks out with the much less demanding Moderna vaccine.
The way you can tell that a politician is lying is that his lips are moving.
Here are three possible explanations:
1. He has already had the vaccine. Later on he will go on TV and receive an injection of saline.
2. It will be "available" in poor communities on literally the same day as it is available elsewhere, so his pledge means nothing.
3. He has no intention of ever receiving the vaccine.Replies: @Kronos
Himself and Mrs. Himself got a reported $60 million advance for their combined books. Maybe that figure is an exaggeration; maybe the payments (particularly to BHO, given both his track record and his insistence on going it alone, without a ghostwriter) were structured so that the bulk of the “advance” wasn’t actually payable until he delivered a publishable manuscript. (Mrs. Obama, not previously a Published Author like her husband, acceded to her publisher’s suggestion of a discreet ghostwriter, and as a result, turned in her own book quickly, and without fuss. Whether it was any good is beside the point: celebrity books are judged by very different standard$$$.)
Otherwise, Penguin Random House would have had a real problem: it gave tens of millions of dollars to a former President to write his memoirs, or at least the projected first volume of his magnum opus. Its contract with Himself might have contained a default clause, similar to the one that allowed S&S to cancel its deal for Dreams From My Father and insist on the return of its advance.
But as a practical matter, it’s terrible optics for a publisher to sue Himself, just because he’s a year or two behind on a book contract. He has so much else to do! There’s the ground-breaking ceremony for his Presidential library, in the Jackson Park neighborhood of Chicago’s South Side. And the Grammys, with BFF’s Beyonce and Jay-Z. And strategy sessions with Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot about renaming the University of Chicago in Himself’s honor: Barack H. Obama University of Chicago in Hyde Park-Kenwood. (O.K., I made that one up. Hi, Lori!) Imagine having the temerity to ask a former President for his advance money back. Think of all the blacks who would learn how to read, just so they could boycott Penguin Random House books as retribution for the insult.
Harsh!but funny.
But the local news reporting on vaccinations in Utah said that it’s been slow here, too. It isn’t the reporting. They weren’t prepared. This pandemic shut down the whole fracking country, it’s been the lead story for nine months now, and they weren’t prepared to administer a simple vaccine. The patient comes in, hopefully with all the paperwork done online, gets a little alcohol rub, a jab, and a bandaid. Not that hard. One nurse could give a hundred vaccinations before her first covfefe break if she tried a little. If they had enough doses they could run the damn clinics 24/7.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
Emphasis added, because if Utah’s system is at the level you describe starting with that outside of hospitals, they aren’t following any sensible plan, and I’m pretty sure they’re breaking their agreement with Operation Warp Speed (OWS) which bought the vaccines provided to them in the first place.
Right now, “Phase 1a” as it’s generally referred to, if your government is using sane priorities it is vaccinating healthcare workers in hospitals so in short order we won’t have to bend the curve so much, and all people in long term care facilities, there’s a Federal program using CVS and Walgreens to do that, but that’s not the only system, and those are all go to the facility efforts. So only hospitals might be doing what you describe, or worse as Jack D. fears.
If for some reason your state is abandoning the elderly in favor of “essential workers” as the CDC prefers because that ends up killing more (old) white people even at the cost of killing lots more old black people, you’ve got a different set of problems. Or the media is lying to throw shade on Trump, which is nearly a certainty, no matter how Red state your local area is. Or your use of “covfefe” tells us you’re lying.
But Steve posted the state vaccination rates a few posts back. Utah - almost always regarded as a well-run state by national measures - isn't the only state doing a shitty slow job. They all are.
So , instead of 150 to 200 shots per hour achievable with 4 manned stations, you are getting 16 per hour. Considering the actual risk factor, pushing all injected patients into a waiting area immediately where they could be observed by one nurse per 50 patients, would be ample precaution. On the other hand they would have less time to view facebook so it's a tough call.Replies: @Dissident, @SimpleSong
Shouldn’t that be personed stations?
What would he be doing differently?Replies: @That Would Be Telling
After Medicaid started busting his budget last fall, a lot of us think he’s doing exactly that, deliberately killing as many indigent nursing home residents for whom the state-Federal “shared” Medicaid program is the payer of last resort.
He’s also shown a decided preference in favoring the NYC metro area while outright raiding upstate New York of PPE, and he was threatening to do that with respirators, which got too much attention and I think didn’t get very far, or get anywhere at all.
For whomever is looking closely at Cuomo and the state, trying using those details to see if patterns are emerging. See also previous comments on how very bad NYC metro area nursing staff are, which I assume includes a lot of administrative staff. Not all hospitals of course, but more than enough. Note we’ve already learned members of a certain group were caught boasting about diverting vaccine supplies for themselves; perhaps others have the wit to maintain INFOSEC about their diversions.
His plan to have Onondaga County merge with the city of Syracuse has failed, for now (too many Republicans in the County legislature), but he will probably try again. If it works, and the County residents realize that they are now responsible for subsidizing a corrupt and failing city to keep it afloat, look for a mass exodus.
Me first.
What a stereotypical goombah.Replies: @MEH 0910
Mussolini Scene – Crimes & Misdemeanors
Another tell that Cuomo has at the last moment moved from forbidding New Yorkers from getting the “Trump vaccine” to personally taking over the process and starting from scratch. Operation Warp Speed (OWS) worked with state and local governments to develop plans for everything to do with getting their people vaccinated with minimal waste in time and vaccines. If you are in the present tense “designing” anything while letting vaccines wait in freezers it really should be a matter for Federal criminal law.
We’ve had months to do this, I’ve followed in passing my state working on their’s, and as plans moved to operations locally it seems to be working, one hospital rented a ultra low temperature (ULT) freezer and is entirely using Pfizer, even using that capacity according to the first report to store their second doses, while another first got Moderna, then recently got a set of Pfizer/BioNTech which I assume was planned so they’d have already worked the kinks out with the much less demanding Moderna vaccine.
Think of all the blacks who would learn how to read, just so they could boycott Penguin Random House books as retribution for the insult.
Harsh!but funny.
You couldn't just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital's appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn't have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don't make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing--shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.Replies: @SimpleSong, @Kronos, @vhrm, @Ed, @kaganovitch, @Bill Jones, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Muggles
You were lucky. When Faucci got his “shot” in his left arm, he was complaining that his right arm ached a couple of hour later.
I will not take the vaccine until the vaccine is available for my group in Black, Hispanic, and poor communities around the state.
The way you can tell that a politician is lying is that his lips are moving.
Here are three possible explanations:
1. He has already had the vaccine. Later on he will go on TV and receive an injection of saline.
2. It will be “available” in poor communities on literally the same day as it is available elsewhere, so his pledge means nothing.
3. He has no intention of ever receiving the vaccine.
https://youtu.be/4oL00We3-Nk
Ok, so it’s Bill Dauterive as troop leader trying to keep people locked up despite the flood being over.
Do I smell a “Infinite Jest” reference?
Speaking of NPR: Pharmacist Arrested, Accused Of Destroying More Than 500 Moderna Vaccine Doses
Wreckers!Replies: @That Would Be Telling
Don’t trust the MSM in particular with information like this, non-refrigerated unpunctured vials are only good for 12 hours if kept between 8 C and 25 C (46 F and 77 F), which is plausible for a hospital during the winter, or especially a room being using to store vaccines, but is not quite what I consider to be a proper room temperature.
More accurate might be the other prose where they said they gave 57 “patients” doses from these vials which had been removed from the fridge perhaps twice, the guy is know to have pulled this stunt twice, first at night, only caught the second time. They didn’t know if the shots would do any good, but they were sure they wouldn’t do any more harm than getting a properly handled vaccine dose.
And, yeah, a Wrecker, just as Cuomo is with the
Trump vaccineOperation Warp Speed plans.Well, you don’t want to vaccinate too quickly if the plan is to credit the Magic Biden with solving the COVID crisis.
No? Nary a concern?Replies: @Art Deco
Medical researchers and public health officialdom are two distinct guilds.
So let me reiterate: no difference between the shit-ass incompetents who distribute the vaccines, and the shit-ass incompetents who make the vaccines. Every Boomer age individual in our country needs to understand:
Trust no one in the medical community, for you are on your own.Replies: @Bill Jones
No. Never read it. Not even tempted.
Oh, are they really? Both are completely unaccountable for their mistakes, and there is absolutely no difference between corporate political correctness (AKA, incompetence) and Public Official political correctness, especially in the medical field.
So let me reiterate: no difference between the shit-ass incompetents who distribute the vaccines, and the shit-ass incompetents who make the vaccines. Every Boomer age individual in our country needs to understand:
Trust no one in the medical community, for you are on your own.
The Public/Private Druggies are merely complementary arms of the same crime cartel.
Does anybody know how much the vaccine is at rite aid? Supposedly it’s supposed to be available next week.
Demographics? Let's just say that a winter-spring-fall resident of Brownsville or East New York in Brooklyn, or the Queensbridge Houses in Long Island City (in Queens, not Long Island; just roll with it), could summer in Wyandanch, and feel right at home.Replies: @additionalMike
Wyandanch? He forgot Brentwood and Gordon Heights. All good places for Suffolk County Ice People to stay away from, even in daylight.
Besides, WTF is a “health care desert?” The Suffolk County Health Department has been run by a Democratic administration since 2003, and the State Health Department has been also, since 2006, when the last Republican governor left office. So why have they not bought water to the desert?
Cuomo II is becoming increasingly dependent on the press to support his message, and not to ask any hard questions.
I'm not all that far away from Gordon Heights and it's a weird place. Basically, it's a low-density ghetto, comprised mainly of rundown small houses rather than apartment buildings, plunked down in the woods. It's unlikely anyone would come across it unless they're deliberately looking for it.
In fairness, there are some nicer and larger new houses in Gordon Heights, and I wouldn't consider the area particularly dangerous.
Brentwood is much larger and busier, and while it's definitely rundown in parts I once again would not consider it dangerous to anyone passing through.Replies: @additionalMike
The vaccine needs to be kept at -94 F. At temperatures above that the mrna is fragile and breaks down within a week. Lol. Old people and obese people are screwed. Lol.
Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine also isn't terrible once defrosted, undiluted five days in the fridge at the same temperatures, and you can bring them to room temperature, up to 25 C (77 F) for a couple of hours before they have to go back in the fridge. Once diluted, it must stay at room temperature and you have six hours to administer the 5-6 doses in a vial.
Now, it sounds like old people are screwed in New York state, but that's not all of the country. In my flyover Red state part of it, we aren't laughing or threatneing, we're getting quite a few more people per capita vaccinated than in New York state, for example without severe penalties if a dose happens to go to someone not authorized by the Governor. Strange thing, our governor actually worked with both the Feds and the people and localities under him to formulate a solid plan which is working well.Replies: @Bubba
They want people to die and especially old white people. The destruction is deliberate. And it's going to continue until white people revolt or are all in prison camps as you say.
Sailer is here bleating feebly about "why can't I get a vaccine? Surely , heh, I'll get it soon, heh??" Starting to get nervous, eh civnat?
Sorry Steve you might never get it. Just like the legalization of heroin, release of african criminals, and refusal of the DAs to persecute criminals, this is a deliberate attempt to destroy the usa.Replies: @Ragno
Oh, Steve Sailer the Internet gadfly and celebrity will get his vaccine sooner rather than later.
But Steve Sailer the claims adjuster, or Steve Sailer the lathe operator….? Different kettle of fish. And Steve Sailer the bar owner might as well start pricing coffins now, while he’s still feeling pretty lively.
I’m fairly confident that Obama wrote most if not all of his books. I’d wager Obama’s biggest difficulty in writing books for public mass-consumption is a sense of paralysis. He’s a chameleon and can’t optimize blending into either the white liberal or black camp simultaneously. If it was one-on-one then sure, but with both it’s a highly straining juggling act. He never possessed a true organic base of political support to draw from. He first tried grafting himself into black Chicago politics (that failed,) but then grafted himself successfully into the white liberal spotlight.
Another issue I’m sure he deeply struggled with writing the book was in regards to the Clintons. The Obama Administration was essentially Bill Clinton’s third term; with Larry Summers and Rahm Emanuel leading the way. In his recent biography, he’s quite sympathetic to George W. Bush and professed to enjoy his company. (He tries to paint Hillary in a positive light but it feels much more forced.*) I’d wager Obama felt kinship toward Bush II in having his own early Presidency hijacked by outside forces. Bush II got scragged by the Neocons with the Iraq War and Obama was chained to an unpopular healthcare bill that drained his political capital.
*Maybe the reason Barack kept Michelle’s mother in the White House was to use her expert knowledge of African American voodoo magic. That this alone could protect Obama from Hillary’s occult witchcraft.
He's also shown a decided preference in favoring the NYC metro area while outright raiding upstate New York of PPE, and he was threatening to do that with respirators, which got too much attention and I think didn't get very far, or get anywhere at all.
For whomever is looking closely at Cuomo and the state, trying using those details to see if patterns are emerging. See also previous comments on how very bad NYC metro area nursing staff are, which I assume includes a lot of administrative staff. Not all hospitals of course, but more than enough. Note we've already learned members of a certain group were caught boasting about diverting vaccine supplies for themselves; perhaps others have the wit to maintain INFOSEC about their diversions.Replies: @additionalMike
Cuomo II is definitely trying to depopulate suburban Upstate New York…he has just announced plans to close three major Upstate prison facilities, which will pull the plug on the surrounding communities. Curley Effect, you know.
His plan to have Onondaga County merge with the city of Syracuse has failed, for now (too many Republicans in the County legislature), but he will probably try again. If it works, and the County residents realize that they are now responsible for subsidizing a corrupt and failing city to keep it afloat, look for a mass exodus.
Me first.
I only looked at US states and other countries. I think it’s fair to compare NY State at 19,000,000 people against European countries like Belgium, with fewer people.
Belgium is the worst in Europe, and NY crushes it in deaths per capita. I don’t think county makes as much difference, though I’m sure that Bronx county was worse than the state as a whole.
It’s only Jan 3 and they are getting a distracted and conflicted medical community to give 500,ooo doses/day. And the little suck up is just now thinking it is possible for sleepy Joe to meet is 100 million/100 day goal? Was Fauci too busy to pay attention to any of the OWS planning? He did make it a point to miss the official rollout, but he coulda watched it on YouTube.
And what is with all this craziness of talking about using veterinarians to help? There are 19,000 Walgreens and CVS locations with the capacity to make appointments and vaccinate over 1 million/day right now.
With all the attention, I expect this to be working like clockwork before the Jan 2o handoff. Under the effective leadership of Joe Biden. The Biden miracle. Just wishing it works.
Cuomo want NY filled with only criminals and welfare recipients. That makes voting fraud easier and in exchange for votes for Dem factions he gets federal money to skim.
The last thing he or any Dem wants is self employed people.
“ If everyone is vaccinated, how does Andy justify his daily authoritarian caprice? It’s almost as if these Democrat martinets enjoy bossing people around.”
Indeed. And if Cuomo said that all New Yorkers had to walk around with a thumb up their ass in public to stop Covid, you’d get about 75% compliance in the City.
Somebody of ill-will might start to make something of the fact that Penguin Random House is a foreign owned company.
What corona has done is caused a bunch of taxpayers, including me, to leave. That’s not good for Cuomo, DiBlasio or any other NY politician. The poor are staying right where they are. This isn’t part of anyone’s master plan, which is obvious if you just spend five seconds thinking.
Stop being stupid.Replies: @Whiskey
Oh but it is. See Klaus Scwab and the world economic forum aka Davos. “I own nothing and have no privacy /” Their vision of the future . That is the whole point Forcing unemployed people to eat bugs and drink sewage … all over the news. Great Reset to save the planet i.e. Prop up Xi by making good cheaper in China as we eat cockroaches.
As noted, Cuomo benefits from a wasteland NY as he can bid to rival De M factions manufacture d votes for Fed funds to skim. He’s a goombah like his old man.
So let me reiterate: no difference between the shit-ass incompetents who distribute the vaccines, and the shit-ass incompetents who make the vaccines. Every Boomer age individual in our country needs to understand:
Trust no one in the medical community, for you are on your own.Replies: @Bill Jones
In today’s America, never attribute to incompetence what could be attributed to corruption.
The Public/Private Druggies are merely complementary arms of the same crime cartel.
thanks, Governor Andrew M. Cuomo!
Nobody who’s thrifty
pays twenty-two fifty
for such a self-evident chromo!
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/1ff7da74-ae62-4743-8695-0d0f54cc33f2#cOuhQR6RfVd.copy
New York gets its vaccine in slo-mo;
thanks, Governor Andrew M. Cuomo!
You sure ain’t the man some
girls think of as handsome;
not like Salvatore Bellomo.
https://images.wolfgangsvault.com/m/large/ZZZ028913-PP/salvatore-bellomo-promo-print-.webpReplies: @Gary in Gramercy
If you can write two, properly-scanning limericks — two! — about Governor Il Duce, and omit the line, “Vote for Cuomo, not the homo,” you have much greater self-restraint than I. Props-a-plenty.
(Given the broader topic, I was thinking along the lines of Chronic Pulmonary Trauma...)There is a basic protocol with regard to abbreviations, acronyms and initialisms that they should be spelled-out the first-time they are used in a given piece-of-writing. It appears rather clear that more than a few others here would welcome if more posters observed that courtesy. Is it too much to expect?
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Re: the icons accompanying quoted Tweeter webdevMason's posting handle: My guess is that the first indicates being a runner, and the third affiliation with the film industry. What is the middle one, the scissor, supposed to indicate? "Cut the malarkey"?
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@ Escher:"We're slipping and sliding into third-worldism."How many readers recognize and be able to identify the source of that quote?Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @vinteuil, @Bubba
The love child of Enoch Powell and Little Richard.
(I suppose that means it’s Morrissey.)
Perhaps your comment was intended for someone else and you mistakenly directed it to me?Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
You couldn't just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital's appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn't have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don't make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing--shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.Replies: @SimpleSong, @Kronos, @vhrm, @Ed, @kaganovitch, @Bill Jones, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Muggles
“Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot.”
Sounds like you earned it. Good doggie!
Everyone who expects that the vaccine will enable a return to normal should watch this (forty-nine minutes).
There is a consistently and widely attested set of things which the enemies of liberty have always wanted, tldr, the enslavement of mankind. These things have not been possible because of problems of technology and centralization (eg, people in rural Russia were often paradoxically free because there was no way for the bureaucrats to harass them). Modern technology has done half the work of enabling these things, and, by remarkable coincidence, the lockdown does the rest. The reason the crucial two weeks turned into a year and more is they’re bringing together a sweeping societal technological change which they have been preparing forever.
There is a consistently and widely attested set of things which the enemies of liberty have always wanted, tldr, the enslavement of mankind. These things have not been possible because of problems of technology and centralization (eg, people in rural Russia were often paradoxically free because there was no way for the bureaucrats to harass them). Modern technology has done half the work of enabling these things, and, by remarkable coincidence, the lockdown does the rest. The reason the crucial two weeks turned into a year and more is they're bringing together a sweeping societal technological change which they have been preparing forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1-0XKYAZIIReplies: @Steve Sailer
Therefore, you are going to frustrate the Bad Guys’ Plan by not getting a vaccination?
(What she actually advises is stuff like bank with a local credit union rather than with Chase but even that isn't really going to hurt anyone. There is effectively no way to boycott BlackRock, Amazon, Google, etc.. Inevitability is no excuse for head-burying. The autonomous cars we were confidently assured of years ago are not here. Implementation always turns out to be harder and slower than expected. Something will turn up.)
Besides, WTF is a "health care desert?" The Suffolk County Health Department has been run by a Democratic administration since 2003, and the State Health Department has been also, since 2006, when the last Republican governor left office. So why have they not bought water to the desert?
Cuomo II is becoming increasingly dependent on the press to support his message, and not to ask any hard questions.Replies: @prosa123
Wyandanch? He forgot Brentwood and Gordon Heights. All good places for Suffolk County Ice People to stay away from, even in daylight.
I’m not all that far away from Gordon Heights and it’s a weird place. Basically, it’s a low-density ghetto, comprised mainly of rundown small houses rather than apartment buildings, plunked down in the woods. It’s unlikely anyone would come across it unless they’re deliberately looking for it.
In fairness, there are some nicer and larger new houses in Gordon Heights, and I wouldn’t consider the area particularly dangerous.
Brentwood is much larger and busier, and while it’s definitely rundown in parts I once again would not consider it dangerous to anyone passing through.
Back when I lived on Long Island, I had occasion to drive through the area occasionally during the day for work, and was surprised to see young blacks selling drugs openly on the street. There is (was?) a black apartment complex in the area, and (as reported by Newsday), when the resident Black Muslims would see a white person drive in looking for drugs or a prostitute, they would tailgate his car, giving it the occasional Dale Earnhardt bumper-tap, until he left.
Brentwood? You are a better man than I, Gunga Din.Anyway, thanks for your comment.Replies: @prosa123, @Dan Hayes
Cuomo announced today that even though he will be eligible to get the vaccine in the next round, as a front-facing essential worker, he will not receive it until it’s generally available to anyone in his age group,
(Given the broader topic, I was thinking along the lines of Chronic Pulmonary Trauma...)There is a basic protocol with regard to abbreviations, acronyms and initialisms that they should be spelled-out the first-time they are used in a given piece-of-writing. It appears rather clear that more than a few others here would welcome if more posters observed that courtesy. Is it too much to expect?
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Re: the icons accompanying quoted Tweeter webdevMason's posting handle: My guess is that the first indicates being a runner, and the third affiliation with the film industry. What is the middle one, the scissor, supposed to indicate? "Cut the malarkey"?
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@ Escher:"We're slipping and sliding into third-worldism."How many readers recognize and be able to identify the source of that quote?Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @vinteuil, @Bubba
Agreed. This “abbreviations, acronyms and initialisms” thing has gotten completely out of hand.
LOL? Well, OK, everybody knows that. But CPT?
Ah, Mr. Lol is back to laughing about a deadly pandemic. Nope, mRNA isn’t that fragile, the combination of it and its lipid protection is, and Moderna has much better technology, it only requires between -25 C and -15 C (-13 F and 5 F) freezing, and once defrosted, is good for 30 days in a fridge between 2 C and 8 C (36 F and 46 F) until you puncture a vial for its first dose, then you have six hours to finish the 10 dose vial.
Pfizer/BioNTech’s vaccine also isn’t terrible once defrosted, undiluted five days in the fridge at the same temperatures, and you can bring them to room temperature, up to 25 C (77 F) for a couple of hours before they have to go back in the fridge. Once diluted, it must stay at room temperature and you have six hours to administer the 5-6 doses in a vial.
Now, it sounds like old people are screwed in New York state, but that’s not all of the country. In my flyover Red state part of it, we aren’t laughing or threatneing, we’re getting quite a few more people per capita vaccinated than in New York state, for example without severe penalties if a dose happens to go to someone not authorized by the Governor. Strange thing, our governor actually worked with both the Feds and the people and localities under him to formulate a solid plan which is working well.
(Given the broader topic, I was thinking along the lines of Chronic Pulmonary Trauma...)There is a basic protocol with regard to abbreviations, acronyms and initialisms that they should be spelled-out the first-time they are used in a given piece-of-writing. It appears rather clear that more than a few others here would welcome if more posters observed that courtesy. Is it too much to expect?
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Re: the icons accompanying quoted Tweeter webdevMason's posting handle: My guess is that the first indicates being a runner, and the third affiliation with the film industry. What is the middle one, the scissor, supposed to indicate? "Cut the malarkey"?
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@ Escher:"We're slipping and sliding into third-worldism."How many readers recognize and be able to identify the source of that quote?Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @vinteuil, @Bubba
You’re welcome! And Happy New Year!
Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine also isn't terrible once defrosted, undiluted five days in the fridge at the same temperatures, and you can bring them to room temperature, up to 25 C (77 F) for a couple of hours before they have to go back in the fridge. Once diluted, it must stay at room temperature and you have six hours to administer the 5-6 doses in a vial.
Now, it sounds like old people are screwed in New York state, but that's not all of the country. In my flyover Red state part of it, we aren't laughing or threatneing, we're getting quite a few more people per capita vaccinated than in New York state, for example without severe penalties if a dose happens to go to someone not authorized by the Governor. Strange thing, our governor actually worked with both the Feds and the people and localities under him to formulate a solid plan which is working well.Replies: @Bubba
Thanks – great comment and appreciate all the information! (I was on vacation and haven’t made the minimum comments for the past month to use the ‘Thanks’ button.)
On further thought, it bears mentioning that the two mRNA vaccines are physically fragile once they're defrosted, Pfizer/BioNTech says if they're shaken, they must be discarded, Moderna says you must contact them. And they can be kept frozen for months, as I recall four for Pfizer/BioNTech and six for Moderna, not looking those up because at least one of them is subject to increasing that time as the company gets more experience with it. Plus for now there should be no danger of their being held that long outside of New York and any other state which might be imposing severe penalties if you don't follow their fuhrer's orders to the letter about who gets them exactly when.
It says extraordinarily bad things about many things that he’s been in the same government position since 1984. After his residency, he’s never worked outside of that one unit of the NIH, not sure he’s touched a patient since 1968, almost certainly not much of that since he jumped to management in 1974. (And let’s not forget he might have funded the collection and/or creation of SARS-CoV-2 (really).)
And I pipe up, 3,600 Walmart pharmacies! (OK, yeah, I’m a bit of a Walmart fan.) Right now CVS and Walgreens teams are fanning out and giving long term care workers and residents vaccinations, see the new top line entry here, 283,000 people doesn’t sound like much (albeit there might be reporting delays), but that’s more than double the 167,000 three days earlier, which includes the New Year’s holidays. This also isn’t the only way long term care facilities are getting vaccines, and overall, a huge number of people who can only imagine straight line extrapolations need to learn the meaning of learning curves.
Don’t want to borrow trouble, but to quote the Messiah Obama, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up.” Already he’s quite a bit less ambitious for his first hundred days than Operation Warp Speed (OWS), although most everyone’s plans this early in the game are being gimped by Pfizer’s production failure, half of what they were promising (at least now they’re reported to be accepting OWS supply chain help).
You couldn't just walk in to get vaccinated, you had to set up a 15 minute appointment in advance, and it had to be online through the hospital's appointment scheduling system, which went down several times during the first few days that were available for scheduling. You could only schedule during regular business hours. It was a huge pain for frontline ED and ICU docs who have very irregular hours.
There were about 4 nurses at the vaccination station and about three patients. You had to wait 15 minutes after the injection in the waiting room to make sure you didn't have an anaphylactic response, which I thought was quite weird since anaphylaxis is a risk of all immunizations, but we don't make people sit around 15 minutes after their annual flu shot. The shot takes about 2-3 seconds, so you get your shot, then you and the 4 nurses all read your respective phones for 15 minutes and then you leave.
After the shot I noticed that I immediately started developing man-breasts and my hair was coming out in clumps. (J/K) Actually all I noticed was that my arm was slightly more sore than usual when I get the flu shot, but I actually felt less arthralgias/general malaise than I do after the annual flu shot. Most people I talked to noted the same thing--shoulder hurt more than usual for about a day.Replies: @SimpleSong, @Kronos, @vhrm, @Ed, @kaganovitch, @Bill Jones, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Muggles
I receieve allergy injections every two or three weeks. They make you wait at least 20 minutes after those and inspect your arm for swelling, etc. Protocol.
I also suspect that w/ the COVID vax, they keep people apart at least six feel afterwards so waiting area may be limited to space available. That might also slow down the process. They could do this much quicker and find gyms, meeting spaces, etc. for mass production.
So they said “EMERGENCY’ but it isn’t. Once those Better Than You (and me) get theirs, no rush.
I am eligible now due to age but the current process is very slow and requires a lot of processing, etc.
So no hurry. Maybe in a month or two if zombiefication isn’t a side effect.
What, I’m a brother now?
(What she actually advises is stuff like bank with a local credit union rather than with Chase but even that isn’t really going to hurt anyone. There is effectively no way to boycott BlackRock, Amazon, Google, etc.. Inevitability is no excuse for head-burying. The autonomous cars we were confidently assured of years ago are not here. Implementation always turns out to be harder and slower than expected. Something will turn up.)
LOL? Well, OK, everybody knows that. But CPT?Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
Celebrity linguist Bill De Blasio explained the concept of CPT to us several years ago.
https://youtu.be/exz99v8HejQReplies: @RadicalCenter, @Reg Cæsar
Boy, have we descended. At least the DeBlasios’ tryst was consensual:
However, it wouldn’t have been consensual for anyone else– Detroyt Wilhelm saw to that. That’s why they had so much room to maneuver!
Seven years that miserable excuse for a chief executive's been destroying the city, with the rate of ruination increasing in the year just ended. But I never thought of that particular epithet.
Except for tarring a fine pitcher with guilt by association, it's got everything: it calls him by his real name, which is about as Italian as Oscar Mayer bologna on white bread with mayo; it reminds us where his real loyalties lie (with the race he married into and gave two children to); and it alerts us to the horrors of what awaits New York if the next mayor fails to repudiate this one.
"Detroyt Wilhelm." Bravo.
I'm not all that far away from Gordon Heights and it's a weird place. Basically, it's a low-density ghetto, comprised mainly of rundown small houses rather than apartment buildings, plunked down in the woods. It's unlikely anyone would come across it unless they're deliberately looking for it.
In fairness, there are some nicer and larger new houses in Gordon Heights, and I wouldn't consider the area particularly dangerous.
Brentwood is much larger and busier, and while it's definitely rundown in parts I once again would not consider it dangerous to anyone passing through.Replies: @additionalMike
I am glad the Heights is getting better (and good news for their local school district, too..Longwood? Patchogue-Medford? No lo recuerdo).
Back when I lived on Long Island, I had occasion to drive through the area occasionally during the day for work, and was surprised to see young blacks selling drugs openly on the street. There is (was?) a black apartment complex in the area, and (as reported by Newsday), when the resident Black Muslims would see a white person drive in looking for drugs or a prostitute, they would tailgate his car, giving it the occasional Dale Earnhardt bumper-tap, until he left.
Brentwood? You are a better man than I, Gunga Din.
Anyway, thanks for your comment.
At one time the Sisters of St Joseph had their motherhouse in Brentwood. Hopefully they’ve escaped by now!Replies: @additionalMike
There’s been some comparison to Wilson’s final year, but FDR’s terminal term might be more appropriate. Scarier, too. Harris S Truman!
The neutral (vis-à-vis Japan) USSR had offered to broker a truce between the two sides, and our beleaguered enemy was already on board. Our side dismissed it. Consider this the next time someone says all that bombing “saved American lives”. Unconditional surrender cost more.
Fala, Checkers, and now Nephew Joe’s canine shower valet… was the last ever named in the press? Is it Major, or Champ?
https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1342138967865479169
The way you can tell that a politician is lying is that his lips are moving.
Here are three possible explanations:
1. He has already had the vaccine. Later on he will go on TV and receive an injection of saline.
2. It will be "available" in poor communities on literally the same day as it is available elsewhere, so his pledge means nothing.
3. He has no intention of ever receiving the vaccine.Replies: @Kronos
That seems to be the most likely story. This can be a PR protective measure to prevent someone important caught having adverse reactions on live TV. This nurse that collapsed after receiving the vaccine can spread the wrong kind of messaging.
Indeed. And if Cuomo said that all New Yorkers had to walk around with a thumb up their ass in public to stop Covid, you’d get about 75% compliance in the City.Replies: @John Up North
Ditto Chicago, IL.
Back when I lived on Long Island, I had occasion to drive through the area occasionally during the day for work, and was surprised to see young blacks selling drugs openly on the street. There is (was?) a black apartment complex in the area, and (as reported by Newsday), when the resident Black Muslims would see a white person drive in looking for drugs or a prostitute, they would tailgate his car, giving it the occasional Dale Earnhardt bumper-tap, until he left.
Brentwood? You are a better man than I, Gunga Din.Anyway, thanks for your comment.Replies: @prosa123, @Dan Hayes
The Oakwood Apartments. When I was trying to sell life insurance ten years ago – what a complete pyramid scam, but that’s another story for another time – I made more than a few trips there to call on customers. It was sort of depressing but I never thought of it as dangerous. That area is Coram more than Gordon Heights, which is a bit to the south.
Can anyone explain this to me? Oh, the Stupid Party, I get it.Replies: @Kronos
Yeah it’s flu season.Replies: @Paperback Writer
I’m puzzled as to why flu and what they call “flu-related illnesses” are at historic lows in NYC.
The real mystery is why the Republican National Committee utterly ignores New York State, and now even NYC – not exactly low-hanging fruit but getting there.
Can anyone explain this to me? Oh, the Stupid Party, I get it.
In this case it really IS the fault of the Jews:
https://www.health.ny.gov/commissioner/bio/#:~:text=Dr.%20Howard%20A.%20Zucker%20is%20Commissioner%20of%20Health,and%20end%20the%20AIDS%20epidemic%20in%20New%20York.
Here's hoping he gives the State of New York a courtesy discount.
I remember 20 -30 years ago, having to get my flu shot from the Doctor’s office. What a pain that was! Calling for an appointment, being told they didn’t have any, calling again, and finally the 30-minute drive to the doctor’s office on the far side of the county. I am so glad that they let the drug stores take over that business. No need for an appointment, they always have it on hand, and no waiting in a crowded Doctor’s office with its surly staff.
Back when I lived on Long Island, I had occasion to drive through the area occasionally during the day for work, and was surprised to see young blacks selling drugs openly on the street. There is (was?) a black apartment complex in the area, and (as reported by Newsday), when the resident Black Muslims would see a white person drive in looking for drugs or a prostitute, they would tailgate his car, giving it the occasional Dale Earnhardt bumper-tap, until he left.
Brentwood? You are a better man than I, Gunga Din.Anyway, thanks for your comment.Replies: @prosa123, @Dan Hayes
Was Brentwood’s downfall due to its New York State Psychiatric Institution with accompanying bro and broette workforce?
At one time the Sisters of St Joseph had their motherhouse in Brentwood. Hopefully they’ve escaped by now!
Unfortunately the Church has been selling off property all over L.I. due to financial problems, so I would guess the Sisters are long gone.
touché
Right now, "Phase 1a" as it's generally referred to, if your government is using sane priorities it is vaccinating healthcare workers in hospitals so in short order we won't have to bend the curve so much, and all people in long term care facilities, there's a Federal program using CVS and Walgreens to do that, but that's not the only system, and those are all go to the facility efforts. So only hospitals might be doing what you describe, or worse as Jack D. fears.
If for some reason your state is abandoning the elderly in favor of "essential workers" as the CDC prefers because that ends up killing more (old) white people even at the cost of killing lots more old black people, you've got a different set of problems. Or the media is lying to throw shade on Trump, which is nearly a certainty, no matter how Red state your local area is. Or your use of "covfefe" tells us you're lying.Replies: @Wilkey
Well of course they aren’t following any sensible plan. That’s the problem.
But Steve posted the state vaccination rates a few posts back. Utah – almost always regarded as a well-run state by national measures – isn’t the only state doing a shitty slow job. They all are.
Belgium is the worst in Europe, and NY crushes it in deaths per capita. I don't think county makes as much difference, though I'm sure that Bronx county was worse than the state as a whole.Replies: @AKAHorace
I think that averages for countries/state may miss regions within them were deaths were a lot higher. Within New York counties in New York city had death counts much higher than the state as a whole. Belgian cities are more tightly packed than New York. I would be interested to see more detailed breakdowns of results.
This recent addition will speed up things considerably
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cuomo-creates-new-covid-vaccination-obstacles-help-fight-racism
Pfizer.
So , instead of 150 to 200 shots per hour achievable with 4 manned stations, you are getting 16 per hour. Considering the actual risk factor, pushing all injected patients into a waiting area immediately where they could be observed by one nurse per 50 patients, would be ample precaution. On the other hand they would have less time to view facebook so it's a tough call.Replies: @Dissident, @SimpleSong
I’m sad to say…it wasn’t that each nurse was doing injections. One did the injections, one drew up the injection, one looked intently at the cooler, one was being trained. They were doing four per hour. I’m being completely serious. It was 4 per hour, not 16.
Can anyone explain this to me? Oh, the Stupid Party, I get it.Replies: @Kronos
“Can anyone explain this to me? Oh, the Stupid Party, I get it.”
It’s more like the “I’d rather shrivel up and die” party. The Republican establishment is loathe to become a working class white party championing nationalistic protectionism.
Before the 1960s, the Republican Party was essentially the party of the rich. The Democrats were essentially the working class party. However, when the dust finally settled after the 1960s the Republican Party found itself with millions of working class whites who fled the cities. These Democrat expatriates proved to be both an asset and liability. Both worked together to deregulate government and led to Reagan’s blockbuster victories in 1980 and 1984.
However, this political marriage broke down with George H.W. Bush’s failed 1992 Presendential re-election campaign. Bush II got triangulated by Neoliberal Bill Clinton while failing to unite a divided party with Ross Perot representing the working class base. Essentially, Clinton’s strategy was the opposite of Trump’s 2016 strategy. Clinton stole liberal* Republicans wholesale promising nearly unlimited free trade and US investment in the third world (GloboHomo.)
Elite Republicans desperately wanted to remain the rich liberal party but critically lost that battle decisively in 1992. Karl Rove tried to devise a new electoral strategy to preserve the dominance of liberal Republicans instead of embracing some form of the Sailer strategy. So you have these RNC morons thinking it’s 1988 forever and Bill Clinton was just a shit-the-bed nightmare who doesn’t exist. However, at this rate the Republican Party will become the working class party while Democrats will represent the full establishment.
*I use the term “liberal” in the European sense. One that entails free market capitalism (and ultimately free market morals.)
The Republicans were the protectionist party well into the 20th century.This idea that tariffs were unfair to some sections of the country seems pretty weak. After all, they protected white men's jobs, and were paid mostly by the blacker states. Why shouldn't blacks be paying the tariff? What else were they doing of value?Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous
Sorry, I posted the following in the wrong thread.
It definitely belongs here.
The probable fact that he is not polling well is supported by the Emmy he is getting (clearly a desperation move) and by all the adulation he is receiving from the MSM.
I have no doubt that he would want the next state Governor to be a NY City guy, because that is his power base, and because he likes to control everything. Just speculating, perhaps he is standing in the way of some Dem official who wants to be the next Governor, like the current Suffolk County, Long Island, Executive?
That would explain the attack by by Newsday.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/6rFtcRpN8NpKyEHASVhV5o-970-80.jpg.webp
However, it wouldn't have been consensual for anyone else-- Detroyt Wilhelm saw to that. That's why they had so much room to maneuver!Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
“Detroyt Wilhelm”?
Seven years that miserable excuse for a chief executive’s been destroying the city, with the rate of ruination increasing in the year just ended. But I never thought of that particular epithet.
Except for tarring a fine pitcher with guilt by association, it’s got everything: it calls him by his real name, which is about as Italian as Oscar Mayer bologna on white bread with mayo; it reminds us where his real loyalties lie (with the race he married into and gave two children to); and it alerts us to the horrors of what awaits New York if the next mayor fails to repudiate this one.
“Detroyt Wilhelm.” Bravo.
De Blasio was only trying to undo the harm that Sinatra’s song “New York, New York” has done to the city. It can be a fun place too, like Chicago, not just a place “to make it”, but also a wild city where husbands actually dance with their wives!
CHICAGO LYRICS
“On State Street, that great street, I just want to say
They do things they don’t do on Broadway
They have the time, the time of their life
I saw a man, he danced with his wife
In Chicago, Chicago my home town”
I have photos of that spectacular building saved on my computer.
Many people here are so quick to say let’s just leave the cities to the savages; we’ll live up in our mountain redoubts. But that’s giving up most of the greatest accomplishments of our forefathers. That’s definitely not doing them (or us) any justice.
There’s got to be a better way.
You’re welcome. I answer semi-trolls like Mr. Lol (other comments of his aren’t obviously trolling) because they prompt me to look up and nail down important information like what I included in my reply.
On further thought, it bears mentioning that the two mRNA vaccines are physically fragile once they’re defrosted, Pfizer/BioNTech says if they’re shaken, they must be discarded, Moderna says you must contact them. And they can be kept frozen for months, as I recall four for Pfizer/BioNTech and six for Moderna, not looking those up because at least one of them is subject to increasing that time as the company gets more experience with it. Plus for now there should be no danger of their being held that long outside of New York and any other state which might be imposing severe penalties if you don’t follow their fuhrer’s orders to the letter about who gets them exactly when.
Acerbic “Aesop” the ER nurse reports on his Raconteur Report blog the same is true in his Southern California hospital that’s getting hit very hard right now:
I doubt his explanation given the number of “Gilligans” who show up in his emergency department that keep him well paid, but something more is going on than my previous guess the CDC’s flu surveillance system with its set of specific clinics and doctor’s offices had broken down.
At one time the Sisters of St Joseph had their motherhouse in Brentwood. Hopefully they’ve escaped by now!Replies: @additionalMike
Good question, but difficult to answer (‘m old but I ain’t that old…the place was established early in the last century… 1920’s ?).
Unfortunately the Church has been selling off property all over L.I. due to financial problems, so I would guess the Sisters are long gone.
It definitely belongs here.Replies: @additionalMike
This is really interesting…Newsday is a Democratic party paper on Long Island, and a female former aide to Cuomo II has recently accused him of some sort of mistreatment/harassment. Sounds like Cuomo II is under attack from within his own party.
The probable fact that he is not polling well is supported by the Emmy he is getting (clearly a desperation move) and by all the adulation he is receiving from the MSM.
I have no doubt that he would want the next state Governor to be a NY City guy, because that is his power base, and because he likes to control everything. Just speculating, perhaps he is standing in the way of some Dem official who wants to be the next Governor, like the current Suffolk County, Long Island, Executive?
That would explain the attack by by Newsday.
https://www.health.ny.gov/commissioner/bio/#:~:text=Dr.%20Howard%20A.%20Zucker%20is%20Commissioner%20of%20Health,and%20end%20the%20AIDS%20epidemic%20in%20New%20York.Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
Well, at least as a trained lawyer (although what kind of Jew goes to Fordham for law school, I have no idea: is it that Fordham has a n-i-g-h-t-s-c-h-o-o-l option?), Dr. Zucker can also sue himself for medical malpractice.
Here’s hoping he gives the State of New York a courtesy discount.
Good grief! No doubt the trainee was being initiated into the mysteries of looking intently at a cooler. Learning to furrow the brow ‘just so’ is the work of a lifetime, I’m sure.
I’m afraid you’ve lost me completely there. I don’t even know which part of my post you were responding to.
Perhaps your comment was intended for someone else and you mistakenly directed it to me?
"'We're slipping and sliding into third-worldism.'"
"How many readers recognize and be [sic] able to identify the source of that quote?"
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My response to that question -- admittedly tongue in cheek -- was, "The love child of Enoch Powell and Little Richard. (I suppose that means it's Morrissey.)"
Now I'm intrigued: who said it?Replies: @Dissident
Doubtless true to a great extent, but I’d add that government ‘workers’ everywhere consider the self-employed to be their sworn enemies. They’ll stop at nothing to ruin your small business any way they can–which is normally a lot.
https://twitter.com/justindeanlee/status/1346211956223569922
https://twitter.com/justindeanlee/status/1346211966898102272
https://twitter.com/justindeanlee/status/1346211979283861514
https://twitter.com/justindeanlee/status/1346226339154710534
It was Republicans who tightened up immigration in the 1920s. The rich weren’t too happy about that. And it was the one Republican policy FDR wouldn’t touch.
The Republicans were the protectionist party well into the 20th century.
This idea that tariffs were unfair to some sections of the country seems pretty weak. After all, they protected white men’s jobs, and were paid mostly by the blacker states. Why shouldn’t blacks be paying the tariff? What else were they doing of value?
https://twitter.com/LionBlogosphere/status/1346229336706342912
https://twitter.com/LionBlogosphere/status/1346232591536558083Replies: @MEH 0910
The Republicans were the protectionist party well into the 20th century.This idea that tariffs were unfair to some sections of the country seems pretty weak. After all, they protected white men's jobs, and were paid mostly by the blacker states. Why shouldn't blacks be paying the tariff? What else were they doing of value?Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous
That occurred soon after the 1920 Wall Street bombing. Once uncle so-and-so got blown up they started singing a different tune.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_bombing
Different generation under different circumstances. They relied on protectionist policies to keep cheap free trade British goods out and recking our industries. However, after WWII the US was able to break the British Empire’s “Imperial Preference” system and call the shots once we obtained world reserve currency status. Things got even more lucrative when the Soviet Union collapsed and China’s communist government nearly crashed in the late 1980s.
Very interesting book if you got the time.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1346205526003224576Replies: @That Would Be Telling
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1346292954684657664Replies: @MEH 0910
One thing to remember, there's absolutely no vaccine handling requirement that aligns with "use it in 7 days." See above for the short term requirements, and prior to defrosting these vaccines can be kept frozen for at least four or six months (the long term maximum is still be determined by at least one of the mRNA vaccine companies, the sort of thing you can only do for sure one day at a time).Replies: @candid_observer
Perhaps your comment was intended for someone else and you mistakenly directed it to me?Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
At the very end of your comment, you write, presumably quoting another:
“‘We’re slipping and sliding into third-worldism.’”
“How many readers recognize and be [sic] able to identify the source of that quote?”
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My response to that question — admittedly tongue in cheek — was, “The love child of Enoch Powell and Little Richard. (I suppose that means it’s Morrissey.)”
Now I’m intrigued: who said it?
The late, much-lamented talk-radio icon Bob Grant.Incidentally, I have noted previously that there has been a whole dispute over whether this term sfaccim is vulgar or merely pejorative. Grant insisted that it was not, and in support of this contention, cited the late Mario Perillo of Perillo Tours fame (referring to him as "a scholar of the Italian language"). Others, however, have disputed Grant, insisting that sfaccim was a word that no one familiar with its true connotations would ever dare to utter in polite company. The conflicting views may perhaps be explained by regional linguistic differences. Such is how the legendary Frank from Queens (perhaps Bob Grant's single most famous/infamous/celebrated/denounced caller) has explained the different pronunciations of another word that Grant distinguished himself for using often: Caffon, which some pronounced as kah-fone, while others, including Grant himself, as gah-vone. (Link is to Frank's much-celebrated Hail Columbus! call to Grant.)Some vintage air-checks of Bob Grant's radio show (along with a number of others) can be found in the files available at this link.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1346205526003224576Replies: @That Would Be Telling
Came here to mention Cuomo’s pincer movement on hospitals you’ve supplied to us, he’s certainly been showing us his inner Stalin since the beginning of this crisis.
One thing to remember, there’s absolutely no vaccine handling requirement that aligns with “use it in 7 days.” See above for the short term requirements, and prior to defrosting these vaccines can be kept frozen for at least four or six months (the long term maximum is still be determined by at least one of the mRNA vaccine companies, the sort of thing you can only do for sure one day at a time).
One thing to remember, there's absolutely no vaccine handling requirement that aligns with "use it in 7 days." See above for the short term requirements, and prior to defrosting these vaccines can be kept frozen for at least four or six months (the long term maximum is still be determined by at least one of the mRNA vaccine companies, the sort of thing you can only do for sure one day at a time).Replies: @candid_observer
One idea I wanted to run past you is whether the best early, empirical sign that vaccines remain effective against new mutations is if those who have been infected by the original virus and have recovered are never, or rarely, reinfected by the mutation.
By now, there must be 30-60M who have been infected and recovered in the US, and several times that world wide. I haven’t heard of any large number of people becoming reinfected recently. I have to guess that that would imply the new mutations are effectively handled by the vaccines.
And while I haven't been following the research for a while, every case of "reinfection" when I did seemed to be someone who'd never finished clearing it from their body, including cases where "it" was likely just viral debris which can be detected by the gold standard RT-PCR test which only looks for a couple of small bits of the virus' RNA. Plus if short or medium term reinfection had become a big thing, you'd expect that to be widely publicized by now, especially to harm the BAD ORANGE MAN. Which is a warning if Biden is in the Oval Office January 21st, our betters will do a 180 on reporting bad news. This is a worldwide pandemic though, so that sort of suppression won't be effective for those not satisfied with the US MSM.
Yes, with the caveat that natural immunity has also been shown to include action against the nucleocapsid protein, which I’ve read in passing that for reasons not mentioned is not considered to be a good target for vaccines. It certainly isn’t out there like the spike protein, which produces in electron microscopes the infamous corona, and is hidden behind the lipid envelope stolen from the host cell it budded off, and a tremendous amount of SARS and MERS research into spike proteins was part of how everyone could quickly develop vaccines for COVID-19.
And while I haven’t been following the research for a while, every case of “reinfection” when I did seemed to be someone who’d never finished clearing it from their body, including cases where “it” was likely just viral debris which can be detected by the gold standard RT-PCR test which only looks for a couple of small bits of the virus’ RNA. Plus if short or medium term reinfection had become a big thing, you’d expect that to be widely publicized by now, especially to harm the BAD ORANGE MAN. Which is a warning if Biden is in the Oval Office January 21st, our betters will do a 180 on reporting bad news. This is a worldwide pandemic though, so that sort of suppression won’t be effective for those not satisfied with the US MSM.
"'We're slipping and sliding into third-worldism.'"
"How many readers recognize and be [sic] able to identify the source of that quote?"
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My response to that question -- admittedly tongue in cheek -- was, "The love child of Enoch Powell and Little Richard. (I suppose that means it's Morrissey.)"
Now I'm intrigued: who said it?Replies: @Dissident
Thanks for clarifying.
We’re slipping and sliding into third-worldism was one of the oft-repeated quips of the same individual who dubbed the late Governor Mario Cuomo The Sfaccim and his son Andrew, The Son of Sfaccim:
The late, much-lamented talk-radio icon Bob Grant.
Incidentally, I have noted previously that there has been a whole dispute over whether this term sfaccim is vulgar or merely pejorative. Grant insisted that it was not, and in support of this contention, cited the late Mario Perillo of Perillo Tours fame (referring to him as “a scholar of the Italian language”). Others, however, have disputed Grant, insisting that sfaccim was a word that no one familiar with its true connotations would ever dare to utter in polite company.
The conflicting views may perhaps be explained by regional linguistic differences. Such is how the legendary Frank from Queens (perhaps Bob Grant’s single most famous/infamous/celebrated/denounced caller) has explained the different pronunciations of another word that Grant distinguished himself for using often: Caffon, which some pronounced as kah-fone, while others, including Grant himself, as gah-vone. (Link is to Frank’s much-celebrated Hail Columbus! call to Grant.)
Some vintage air-checks of Bob Grant’s radio show (along with a number of others) can be found in the files available at this link.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-proposal-legalize-and-create-equitable-adult-use-cannabis-program-part
The Republicans were the protectionist party well into the 20th century.This idea that tariffs were unfair to some sections of the country seems pretty weak. After all, they protected white men's jobs, and were paid mostly by the blacker states. Why shouldn't blacks be paying the tariff? What else were they doing of value?Replies: @Kronos, @Anonymous
The rich in the 1920s were scared of Russian-style revolution.