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DuVally is the Managing Director of Media Relations at Goldman Sachs. From Glassdoor:

The typical Goldman Sachs Managing Director salary is $425,106. Managing Director salaries at Goldman Sachs can range from $295,111 – $539,833. This estimate is based upon 19 Goldman Sachs Managing Director salary report(s) provided by employees or estimated based upon statistical methods. When factoring in bonuses and additional compensation, a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs can expect to make an average total pay of $587,307.

I wonder how big an incremental bonus DuVally will get at the end of the year for landing this big Pride Month article in the NYT?

Like I’ve been saying, these late onset (DuVally is 58, has 2 ex-wives and fathered 3 kids) M to F transgenders are the Navy SEALs of SJWdom.

If you look up “Michael DuVally” on the Internet, you find a whole bunch of embarrassing articles in which the chief Goldman Sachs flack is trying to slide Goldman out of yet another scandal. E.g., from the New York Times in the Jho Low/Wolf of Wall Street embezzlement case:

Former Goldman Sachs Banker Pleads Not Guilty in Malaysia Fraud Case

May 6, 2019

A former Goldman Sachs banker charged last year in connection with the looting of billions of dollars from a Malaysian sovereign wealth fund pleaded not guilty in Brooklyn federal court on Monday, just hours after being flown back to the United States.

The banker, Roger Ng, had been in custody in Malaysia since he was charged with helping the country’s former prime minister and others embezzle at least $2.7 billion from the 1Malaysia Development Berhad fund, known as 1MDB. …

Mr. Ng, 46, is one of two former Goldman bankers federal prosecutors have charged in the case…. The authorities contend that Mr. Leissner and Mr. Ng paid hundreds of millions of dollars in bribes and kickbacks to help win the bond underwriting work, which generated $600 million in fees for Goldman. …

The case has prompted a serious criminal investigation for Goldman, which has said it could face a substantial fine in the United States. Malaysian officials also want Goldman to pay up to $7.5 billion in damages….

“We continue to cooperate with all relevant authorities as the process continues to move forward,” Michael DuVally, a Goldman spokesman, said in a statement.

I’m sure he has close to the highest salary job in the public relations profession, but still … Or from Bloomberg:

Goldman Executive Dismissed 15-Year Veteran on Maternity Leave
By Sabrina Willmer
November 19, 2018, 3:00 AM PST
Dispute illustrates broader job worries around pregnancy bias
Elite companies offer paid leave. Some women fear taking it

Two years ago, Tania Mirchandani, a Goldman Sachs Group Inc. vice president in Los Angeles, told her boss she was pregnant with her third child. He was skeptical she could balance a large family with her demanding job, she recalled. That’s “a lot of mouths to feed,” she quoted him as saying….

Mallory referred questions to Goldman, which denied any bias in her dismissal. Spokesman Michael DuVally said she had been terminated “for strategic business planning reasons” that had nothing to do with her pregnancy or leave. As part of a review of the company’s private wealth management business, male managers also lost their jobs, he said.

“Goldman Sachs is committed to supporting employees who are new parents, and takes its obligations and the laws relating to them very seriously,” DuVally said in an email. …

“Decisions about team assignments within the office or client relationships are driven only by performance,” said DuVally, the Goldman spokesman. …

Goldman denied any such pressure. The company’s policies — 16 weeks of paid leave to primary caregivers, both natural and adopting parents — “are explicitly designed” to support new parents, DuVally said. …

DuVally said Goldman “denies that Ms. Mirchandani was terminated for any other reason than strategic business planning reasons.”

Or from the NYT:

Deaths Draw Attention to Wall Street’s Grueling Pace

John Hughes holds a portrait of his son Thomas, a Wall Street banker who committed suicide in May. Mr. Hughes said his son generally liked his job, relentless hours aside, and found the work rewarding and stimulating.

By William D. Cohan
Oct. 3, 2015

… But Mr. Hughes died at a time when sensitivities about the pressures of Wall Street on young professionals are acute. Just a month earlier, Sarvshreshth Gupta, a 22-year-old first-year banking analyst at Goldman Sachs in San Francisco, committed suicide after a particularly stressful stretch at work. Around that time, another Goldman first-year analyst in the health care group who had worked 72 hours straight was hospitalized after having a seizure. (Goldman declined to comment about either episode.) Two years before, Moritz Erhardt, a 21-year-old investment banking intern at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, died after having an epileptic seizure while he was taking a shower to prepare to return to the office after working the previous 72 hours without sleeping.

… In June, Goldman introduced a policy for the 2,900 undergraduate summer interns in investment banking: Leave the office before midnight each day. No more all-nighters. “The policy is consistent with our goal of providing each intern with a challenging and meaningful experience,” said Michael DuVally, a Goldman spokesman.

From DS News:

Another Day, Another Settlement: Goldman Sachs to Pay $5B
April 11, 2016

Investment banking firm Goldman Sachs followed up on an announcement made earlier this year on Monday morning, stating that it has agreed to settle federal and state investigation probes concerning the sale of toxic residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS) in the time leading up to the financial crisis. …

Michael DuVally, a spokesman for Goldman Sachs told DS News, “We are pleased to put these legacy matters behind us. Since the financial crisis, we have taken significant steps to strengthen our culture, reinforce our commitment to our clients, and ensure our governance processes are robust.”

But to call him Michael DuVally is to Deadname him. If you look up Maeve DuVally, however, you find a lot of You Go Girl-Yasss Kween commentary on how brave she is.

 
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  1. Read down the the thread, it goes on and on — the NY Fed has a LOT of ‘pride’.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    The black and brown people of color excluded pride flag (NY Fed photograph) just confirms the current white privilege / white supremacist domination of the LGBTQ... community.

    The more "diverse" and "inclusive" pride flag is the NEW one that has stripes specifically representing black and brown people (and at the top). An example of the "inclusive" flag being raised at Philadelphia City Hall:

    https://outbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/rainbow-flag-philadelphia-brown-black.jpg

  2. Anonymous[235] • Disclaimer says:

    The pigs in Animal Farm should have identified as sows.

    • Replies: @Anonymoose
    As the message told at the end of the story Four legs good, two legs better!
  3. When she arrived for work as Maeve on the Tuesday after Memorial Day, only the second employee to use official channels to manage her transition at Goldman, she was testing just how tolerant and accepting a big American bank could be.

    Men are women. Investment banks are just ‘big American bank’s.

    • LOL: Kyle
    • Replies: @David
    Goldman became a "bank" in 2008 so it could access the Federal Reserve discount window, which at the time was access to money at almost zero percent interest. Doing so also enable the TARP to invest $10,000,000,000 in Goldman preferred shares.
  4. eah says:

    OT (mostly)

    Apparently George Soros is concerned by the strength of the AfD in eastern Germany, so he and his Open Society Foundations are planning to be more active there — in the brief video clip below (looks like it may be from an old ’60 Minutes’ episode– ?) you can hear him say how he pays no attention to the (possible) social consequences of his financial/investment activities:

    • Replies: @SFG
    There's a pro-Republican mutual fund that invests in companies known to support Republicans (ticker MAGA). I should add with an expense ratio over 1% I personally would not choose it as an investment.
  5. The Left is the Party of the dysfunctional, people who vote Leftist are admitting that they are failures.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    Boomercon talk. Elite investment bankers are "failures?" Then who could possibly be a "success?" They are the winners today. By classic bootstrapper logic, that makes them "Good," so best amend your voter registration.
    , @Neuday

    The Left is the Party of the dysfunctional, people who vote Leftist are admitting that they are failures.
     
    Not failures, but victims. It's not their fault they aren't successful, it's yours. And since they're victims, they are morally superior and fully entitled to destroy a successful civilization. Your job is to pay your taxes and pay that usury to fund that destruction.
  6. “Around that time, another Goldman first-year analyst in the health care group who had worked 72 hours straight was hospitalized after having a seizure. (Goldman declined to comment about either episode.)

    What in hell is anyone doing that’s so important that it requires working a 72-hour stretch without sleep? Serious.

    • Replies: @guest
    I call B.S. I don't think that's physically possible. Possible to stay up 72 hours, okay. But not to work.

    They wouldn't even make special forces soldiers do that.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    What in hell is anyone doing that’s so important …
     
    First-year health care sector analysts are usually required to sample all the drugs the companies they cover have on market. It’s a way of weeding out the weak. In this case, the unfortunate dude was on three different stims and his eyes popped out.
    , @PaceLaw
    Fame & fortune my friend! That is the reason that high achieving, risk-taking young people enter fields like Wall Street banking and big-time law firms. I’ve known of people in both fields and they have told me that 48 to 72 hours straight is not as uncommon as you would think. I’ve also heard that cocaine and other drug use is standard for some in order to make the time commitment
  7. In mid-May, Ms. DuVally attended a happy hour Goldman hosted for reporters at a bar overlooking New York Harbor.

    How many of these do those brave NYT Woodward and Bernstein style reporters attend? Or are those GS PR team contacts just too juicy to forgo?

    Ms. DuVally, who has worked at Goldman for 15 years, is 58 and twice divorced, with three children. In an interview, she said that she had been unhappy for most of her life. “I drank too much in the past, and I was extremely self-critical,” she said. “In retrospect, I can say now I didn’t like the fact that I was a male.”

    In retrospect…
    This all makes him sound like a hard-boiled detective than an obvious case of being a woman.

    Before she started dressing in women’s clothing, she said, she could not remember looking at herself in the mirror and feeling anything other than disgust. “I believe from a very early age I’ve wanted to be a woman,” she said. Somehow, she added, the sense was both vague and strong. “I did not like anything that was masculine about me. But I never, on a conscious level, thought that there was anything I could do about that.”

    Last year, Ms. DuVally said, she discovered that she liked wearing women’s clothing. She did so on weeknights, at her apartment on the Upper East Side. She found a support group for transgender people and made new friends.

    At first, the thought of expressing herself in this way at Goldman did not cross her mind. But then, beginning late last year, she occasionally wore light makeup to work. Sometimes she would appear before her colleagues wearing bright red or pink lipstick. A few nights before Thanksgiving, she wore makeup along with a tuxedo to a black-tie event, where she mingled with other bank employees and journalists.

    So which is it? An early age or a novel revelation? The rest of this a textbook auto-gynephile as documented on r/itsafetish.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/

    The reality is this guy has a fetish for crossdressing and there is absolutely nothing feminine about him. But it’s interesting how it goes like with others, a slow escalation like wearing lipstick or nail polish at work as the fetish bleeds into his public life. Being depressed and overworked this was maybe the primary source of joy in his life and he confused that with being transgender or maybe knows what’s going on but has let the fetish take control of his life.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    Altai, we had a local prof who died in his late 50s. He spent his final years estranged from his wife and kids, cross-dressing and entertaining Craigslist boy friends in his residential motel, and keeping local law enforcement busy with health and welfare checks. I'd met him years earlier. He was masculine, and his personal manner was aggressive, damn near belligerent. One of those go-figger deals.
    , @Alice in Wonderland
    aI wonder if there is some hormone imbalance making these guys go girly.

    Hard core masculine guys going girly? There must be more to the story. It is pretty sad that our medical folks don't want to help these guys get some real help rather than just nurture the illness itself.
  8. This…… explains a lot. 3 kids “are a lot of mouths to feed”. How much does Government Sachs pay its employees? Hundreds of millions of bribes and kickbacks on $600 million in fees?
    Maybe we need another company to disproportionately provide our Treasury Secretaries.

  9. @JackOH
    "Around that time, another Goldman first-year analyst in the health care group who had worked 72 hours straight was hospitalized after having a seizure. (Goldman declined to comment about either episode.)

    What in hell is anyone doing that's so important that it requires working a 72-hour stretch without sleep? Serious.

    I call B.S. I don’t think that’s physically possible. Possible to stay up 72 hours, okay. But not to work.

    They wouldn’t even make special forces soldiers do that.

    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    Cocaine is a helluva a drug.
  10. @JackOH
    "Around that time, another Goldman first-year analyst in the health care group who had worked 72 hours straight was hospitalized after having a seizure. (Goldman declined to comment about either episode.)

    What in hell is anyone doing that's so important that it requires working a 72-hour stretch without sleep? Serious.

    What in hell is anyone doing that’s so important …

    First-year health care sector analysts are usually required to sample all the drugs the companies they cover have on market. It’s a way of weeding out the weak. In this case, the unfortunate dude was on three different stims and his eyes popped out.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @JackOH
    LOL! I'll guess hazing. There may be a real reason. I'd been told medical residents worked very long shifts to better understand the progress of a disease and treatment.
  11. You can’t work 72 hours straight. Anything after 8 hours is unproductive. That figure strikes me as sensational, and it makes me question the rest of the reporting. But maybe it is true. I’m not familiar with what type of job was being done. Perhaps the young man was monitoring constantly changing data that only he could analyze. 72 hours without sleep is insane. Methamphetamine or similar drugs like adderall could be responsible for that type of behavior. It keeps you from feeling drowsy and sharpens attention. I’m not a doctor so I don’t know if it’s possible to overdose on meth or not. A lot of the negative effects of meth have always struck me as being caused by a lack of sleep. But could a lack of sleep kill you? That seems improbable. My suspicions then fall back on drug abuse. That isn’t Goldman Sachs fault and they shouldn’t be blamed for it. Worker exploitation is the least of their crimes, those workers are well compensated for what they do.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    I had a roommate in college who stayed up for 40 hours straight. He was one of those crazy architecture majors. But school is a different beast altogether.
    , @anonymous
    Whether it was 72 hours, or 24, lack of sleep can bring on a seizure, if you are an epileptic. They are often cautioned about taking baths, because they can drown during a seizure. Of course, falling in the shower is a real possibility. This poor fellow should have recognized his limitation, and gotten a job where he would get more rest, but less money.

    I have known a few people who worked there...one, now a brother-in-law, would work until late evening several times a week, and the company would hire a limo to take him back to his home in Bayport, Suffolk County. He would be up the next morning at 6:00 a.m. to catch the train to Manhattan, and do it all over again. He was 25 years old, and the routine absolutely wore him out.
    , @Desiderius
    We did 96ish during Hell Week. 72 was fine, felt like a million bucks, but that fourth day was a bear. Turned in a test with nothing but a puddle of drool on it.

    Of course now I’m lucky to do 18.

  12. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    What in hell is anyone doing that’s so important …
     
    First-year health care sector analysts are usually required to sample all the drugs the companies they cover have on market. It’s a way of weeding out the weak. In this case, the unfortunate dude was on three different stims and his eyes popped out.

    LOL! I’ll guess hazing. There may be a real reason. I’d been told medical residents worked very long shifts to better understand the progress of a disease and treatment.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    I’d been told medical residents worked very long shifts...
     
    Not any more. They still work long hours, but not 36 hours straight like they used to.
  13. “Maeve”?!?

    That’s too close to MayBea from Arrested Development, which was a nice pun on how they developed that character but not the name someone who is trying to pass as a woman should choose.

  14. IOW, just another day at Fraud Central.

  15. “Maeve?” What is that, Old Irish? Shouldda gone with something more Goldmanie, like Miryam.

    Speaking of which, I happened to learn recently that one of the head guys on HBO’s Game of Thrones, David Benioff, descends from a big Goldman muckety-muck. Hard to know, because he goes by his mother’s maiden name. His father is Stephen Friedman, who was COO and chairman of the board at Goldman, as well as chairman of the New York Fed.

    One wonders how hotshots break into Hollywood. There’s nepotism and the casting couch, and then there’s I don’t know what. “Gonnegtions.” How does a guy with a couple novels no one read and a few movie writing credits (including X-Men Origins: Wolverine) get picked to co-run an important HBO property? With millions on the line? Zero experience running a t.v. and not all that much writing experience.

    Well, apparently he and his partner won George R.R. Martin over, and that guy had a big say over his property. But I wonder. When you learn the original pilot episode was muffed so bad it had to be scrapped and they reshot a year later without firing the showrunners, I wonder.

    Friedman replaced Brent Scowcroft on the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board and was director of the National Economic Council. I have to think that means something. Even if they hate eachother and never talk. People would know.

    Some of them communicate telepathically. Or maybe they smell it on eachother. Those are speculations on my part.

    • Replies: @Cowboy Shaw
    That's pretty interesting. Nothing surprises me about America anymore. The whole place appears completely stitched up.
  16. @Altai

    In mid-May, Ms. DuVally attended a happy hour Goldman hosted for reporters at a bar overlooking New York Harbor.
     
    How many of these do those brave NYT Woodward and Bernstein style reporters attend? Or are those GS PR team contacts just too juicy to forgo?


    Ms. DuVally, who has worked at Goldman for 15 years, is 58 and twice divorced, with three children. In an interview, she said that she had been unhappy for most of her life. “I drank too much in the past, and I was extremely self-critical,” she said. “In retrospect, I can say now I didn’t like the fact that I was a male.”

     

    In retrospect...
    This all makes him sound like a hard-boiled detective than an obvious case of being a woman.

    Before she started dressing in women’s clothing, she said, she could not remember looking at herself in the mirror and feeling anything other than disgust. “I believe from a very early age I’ve wanted to be a woman,” she said. Somehow, she added, the sense was both vague and strong. “I did not like anything that was masculine about me. But I never, on a conscious level, thought that there was anything I could do about that.”

    Last year, Ms. DuVally said, she discovered that she liked wearing women’s clothing. She did so on weeknights, at her apartment on the Upper East Side. She found a support group for transgender people and made new friends.

    At first, the thought of expressing herself in this way at Goldman did not cross her mind. But then, beginning late last year, she occasionally wore light makeup to work. Sometimes she would appear before her colleagues wearing bright red or pink lipstick. A few nights before Thanksgiving, she wore makeup along with a tuxedo to a black-tie event, where she mingled with other bank employees and journalists.

     

    So which is it? An early age or a novel revelation? The rest of this a textbook auto-gynephile as documented on r/itsafetish.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/

    The reality is this guy has a fetish for crossdressing and there is absolutely nothing feminine about him. But it's interesting how it goes like with others, a slow escalation like wearing lipstick or nail polish at work as the fetish bleeds into his public life. Being depressed and overworked this was maybe the primary source of joy in his life and he confused that with being transgender or maybe knows what’s going on but has let the fetish take control of his life.

    Altai, we had a local prof who died in his late 50s. He spent his final years estranged from his wife and kids, cross-dressing and entertaining Craigslist boy friends in his residential motel, and keeping local law enforcement busy with health and welfare checks. I’d met him years earlier. He was masculine, and his personal manner was aggressive, damn near belligerent. One of those go-figger deals.

    • Replies: @Altai
    That does bring to mind the fact that no mention of his family and their response in the whole piece, yes it is about his 'coming out' at GS but there were plenty of other asides far less relevant. (Like doing a 'won't somebody think of the Goldman Sachs traders' bit about the Volcker Rule) For a man with 3 (Judging by his age adult or near adult) children, no mention of their responses is interesting. I'm sure your father doing this at age 58 is hard enough without a NYT editorial announcing it to the world. I'm sure it makes you real popular with potential life partners to marry into that family.
  17. One Wednesday in May, Maeve DuVally walked the rows in a pair of low-heeled black leather pumps,

    Emily Flitter, NY Times, 2019

    She sat there with her legs crossed, the lashes of her mascara-coated eyes
    beating like the wings of a hummingbird.

    Jerry Lisker, NY Daily News, 1969 (“Homo nest Raided. The Queen Bees are stinging mad.”)

    In the olde days, hacks new they were hacks. Hey, it was a decent living, sure beat working. But, these new fangled journalists no doubt do believe that they bring unique, singular, even brilliant analysis to their domain, but they are really just hacks, drawing upon a trope book, filled in by their betters long ago.

  18. @JackOH
    Altai, we had a local prof who died in his late 50s. He spent his final years estranged from his wife and kids, cross-dressing and entertaining Craigslist boy friends in his residential motel, and keeping local law enforcement busy with health and welfare checks. I'd met him years earlier. He was masculine, and his personal manner was aggressive, damn near belligerent. One of those go-figger deals.

    That does bring to mind the fact that no mention of his family and their response in the whole piece, yes it is about his ‘coming out’ at GS but there were plenty of other asides far less relevant. (Like doing a ‘won’t somebody think of the Goldman Sachs traders’ bit about the Volcker Rule) For a man with 3 (Judging by his age adult or near adult) children, no mention of their responses is interesting. I’m sure your father doing this at age 58 is hard enough without a NYT editorial announcing it to the world. I’m sure it makes you real popular with potential life partners to marry into that family.

    • Replies: @Anon

    no mention of their responses is interesting. I’m sure your father doing this at age 58 is hard enough without a NYT editorial announcing it to the world. I’m sure it makes you real popular with potential life partners to marry into that family.
     
    This is true. Transgender feelings are co-morbid with depression and anxiety and, in my unprofessional opinion, are probably just another expression of what GWAS geneticists call the "internalizing" mental illness cluster, so the children, and grandkids, would thus be at risk for anxiety and (regular) depression. In addition, this guy had an alcohol problem, which is part of the so-called "externalizing" mental illness cluster, along with conduct and agressiveness, antisocial behavior, and alcohol and substance abuse, which the kids, and grandkids, would be at risk for.

    So he has had symptoms of two of the three main mental illness clusters (the third being psychotic and extreme thought disorders, like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and major depression). Each condition in a cluster is virtually indistinguishable on a genetic level from the others, so they appear to simply different expressions of the same underlying problem. These mental illnesses are thus heritable on a cluster basis, so you pass on the risk to the mental illnesses in the whole cluster. (I'm borrowing from Chapter 6, "Generalist Genes," in Robert Plomin's Blueprint from last year.)

    It's amazing that you can get fired for thinking that you are Napoleon and dressing up like him, but if you dress up like a woman you are beyond criticism. I wonder if this sort of safety shield may play an unconscious part in some of today's late onset trans cases? Maybe the job was at risk from the drinking, and his age, but now any firing would prusumptively be discrimination. Another idea is that self-diagnosed transgenderism is the male version of the cluster of self-diagnosed chronic fatigue syndrome illnesses so popular with the distaff side.

    By the way, this guy's general trajectory reminds me of Mike Penner, the L.A. Times sports writer who transitioned, was temporarily ecstatic, then sort of half desisted, and killed himself in 2009.

  19. >>The bank is a place of rigid protocols, and she knew her debut as Maeve would require weeks of preparation. After Ms. DuVally informed her bosses of her decision, a human resources specialist was assigned to handle her case. Ms. DuVally got new business cards, a new ID badge, a new email address.<<

    I do have to agree with the SJW left on this point. Privilege does have its advantages. In the hood if you go full tranny you are turned out of your house, get your ass beat by the local thugs, and, in short order, find yourself peddling your a*s on the nearest stroll. Sigh…we can't all work for Goldman.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    You sound positively wistful. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.

    I'm way behind the curve. Only last week did I discover that the rule is everyone has to pretend that the trans-creature was always whatever sex they now say they are.

    All the way back to being born. And if you fail to do this, expect to be unpersonned, deplatformed, what have you.

  20. @Daniel H
    >>The bank is a place of rigid protocols, and she knew her debut as Maeve would require weeks of preparation. After Ms. DuVally informed her bosses of her decision, a human resources specialist was assigned to handle her case. Ms. DuVally got new business cards, a new ID badge, a new email address.<<

    I do have to agree with the SJW left on this point. Privilege does have its advantages. In the hood if you go full tranny you are turned out of your house, get your ass beat by the local thugs, and, in short order, find yourself peddling your a*s on the nearest stroll. Sigh...we can't all work for Goldman.

    You sound positively wistful. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.

    I’m way behind the curve. Only last week did I discover that the rule is everyone has to pretend that the trans-creature was always whatever sex they now say they are.

    All the way back to being born. And if you fail to do this, expect to be unpersonned, deplatformed, what have you.

  21. From the article:

    “Male managers also lost their jobs, he said.”

    As if anyone is supposed to care about that??

  22. Shouldn’t health authorities be concerned about these late M to F conversions? Maybe there’s a Nobel Prize in Medicine for the scientist who explains the trend. No, I don’t think so.
    Western Civilization : it was fun while it lasted!

  23. So expanding on your theory about middle aged power brokers suddenly deciding that they are women: Could this just be a pathetic attempt for middle/late aged men to attract young hotties without seeming as creepy about it? (as bizarre as that sounds)

    My apologies if this has already been presented.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I *have* seen examples of what you're describing, but I think that's more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians. (With all the 'no white males' stuff woke women are saying I can't be too surprised a few took the bait. There are even species of male lizard that put on female coloring to evade competition, so it's not unknown in the natural world. )

    This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment.

    , @Anon000

    Could this just be a pathetic attempt for middle/late aged men to attract young hotties without seeming as creepy about it? (as bizarre as that sounds)

     

    If so why go through taking hormone shots and and wearing wigs and putting on makeup? A lot feminist SJWs commenters pointed out that this is gender stereotyping. Why not simply identify as a woman and then use the women’s bathroom and locker room? Now that would be really tolerant of them if they accepted a guy would said he identifies as a woman and showers with them while sporting a penis. That level of tolerance would result in a spike in men with gender dysphoria.
  24. @eah
    OT (mostly)

    Apparently George Soros is concerned by the strength of the AfD in eastern Germany, so he and his Open Society Foundations are planning to be more active there -- in the brief video clip below (looks like it may be from an old '60 Minutes' episode-- ?) you can hear him say how he pays no attention to the (possible) social consequences of his financial/investment activities:

    https://twitter.com/Netzdenunziant/status/1142060388353286144

    There’s a pro-Republican mutual fund that invests in companies known to support Republicans (ticker MAGA). I should add with an expense ratio over 1% I personally would not choose it as an investment.

  25. @MikeatMikedotMike
    So expanding on your theory about middle aged power brokers suddenly deciding that they are women: Could this just be a pathetic attempt for middle/late aged men to attract young hotties without seeming as creepy about it? (as bizarre as that sounds)

    My apologies if this has already been presented.

    I *have* seen examples of what you’re describing, but I think that’s more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians. (With all the ‘no white males’ stuff woke women are saying I can’t be too surprised a few took the bait. There are even species of male lizard that put on female coloring to evade competition, so it’s not unknown in the natural world. )

    This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Also (please forgive the indelicacy) at some age men realize that their tools aren't really good for much anymore, and not only do women enjoy far more Privilege in the Current Year, transcritters outrank even them. So who knows, maybe it's a rational calculus. If you're already a bit twisted I mean. Help me out here I'm struggling!
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    I *have* seen examples of what you’re describing, but I think that’s more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians.
     
    When I was a young man, I thought sex was VERY important.

    But this is freakin' ridiculous.
    , @stillCARealist
    It's quite likely that he's a super egotistical jerk that thinks everyone should listen to him and admire him. If he's not in the spotlight, he's feeling dead. So, just like Bruce he goes and does something outlandish and garners national attention. My guess is that if you could look into his life you'd see similar behavior going back to childhood. That's why he thinks he's always been a woman on the inside: it's because he's really been a screwed up sociopath since childhood.

    I've learned over the years that you really have to ignore the kids that demand undue attention. If going crazy will get them what they want, then they'll do it. If you ignore the demands, eventually they'll shut up and go away. I think that's what would happen to these old trannies if everybody rolled their eyes and said, "Get over yourself." After a while they'd see how stupid they are and go back to regular mental illness and take their meds/substances.

    My friend told me last night that she re-met an old acquaintance, now in his 50's, who has become a woman. She said he was utterly pathetic and ugly, but had no clue. Society has told these creeps that it's okay to impose yourself on your family and friends so they do it. And everyone else has to agree or else. Talk about a victory!
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    "This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment."

    Based on what I've read - testosterone levels (free and total) in men begin to decline as early as the late 20's. By the time men are of the age we see a lot of these guys deciding that they're women, their T levels have already fallen significantly. I am not ready to point to high levels of testosterone as the culprit for late onset transsexualism. If anything, I would say the absence of T is the contributing factor.
  26. The tags on this post are genius.

    • Agree: slumber_j
  27. So s/he was willing to change sex so Goldman could get a puff piece? Now that’s taking one for the team!

  28. I’m really glad woke capitalism has gone from travesty to farce in just a few years. It is so over the top that people with Old Left and traditionalist instincts can agree on woke capitalism’s toxicity:

    • Replies: @Anonymoose
    Some old school leftists are beginning to wake up and realise that this whole wokeness ideology might have been a top down operation from the Obama administration as Sailer has speculated to subvert and dissipate the threat of the Occupy movement to prevent any genuine social and economic change.
  29. @SFG
    I *have* seen examples of what you're describing, but I think that's more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians. (With all the 'no white males' stuff woke women are saying I can't be too surprised a few took the bait. There are even species of male lizard that put on female coloring to evade competition, so it's not unknown in the natural world. )

    This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment.

    Also (please forgive the indelicacy) at some age men realize that their tools aren’t really good for much anymore, and not only do women enjoy far more Privilege in the Current Year, transcritters outrank even them. So who knows, maybe it’s a rational calculus. If you’re already a bit twisted I mean. Help me out here I’m struggling!

    • Replies: @SFG
    They can't make it anymore as a guy so they figure they'll have some fun as a girl? I...guess. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me but there you have it.

    I always figured:

    1. Guy with falling T due to age takes replacement T.
    2. Somehow the body's endogenous aromatase (the enzyme that turns T into estrogens) responds more strongly to the replacement T than it did to the original and makes lots of estrogens.
    3. Guy decides he's a girl.

    I have no way to falsify my hypothesis and certainly no scientist would dare help me.

    , @Desiderius
    You’re not struggling, you’re agreeing with Steve.
  30. It’s all contemptible: the subject himself, the company, and the Times report.

    But I have to say, Steve’s inspired idea to collect the guy’s anodyne PR flack statements and run them serially is pretty damn hilarious. Nobody’s better at cutting through self-importance.

  31. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:

    A ton of soft focus and blur and gauze couldn’t make this guy look like a chick. And the only other photo was a long, group shot. I guess it’s transphobic for New York Times photographers to just take up close, sharp, clear portraits of their profile subjects, when the subjects are trannies who transistioned too late.

    What’s with the V-shaped cutout in his … her lipstick on the center of his upper lip under his … her philtrum? It’s like some sort of 1920s flapper look. Where’d he … she get that look from? Or maybe it’s a specular highlight that isn’t clear because the photo is so soft?

  32. So you’re saying it’s all a scam to fool the public and get good PR?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    So you’re saying it’s all a scam to fool the public and get good PR?
     
    There is nothing good about Penis Removal.
  33. @Altai

    In mid-May, Ms. DuVally attended a happy hour Goldman hosted for reporters at a bar overlooking New York Harbor.
     
    How many of these do those brave NYT Woodward and Bernstein style reporters attend? Or are those GS PR team contacts just too juicy to forgo?


    Ms. DuVally, who has worked at Goldman for 15 years, is 58 and twice divorced, with three children. In an interview, she said that she had been unhappy for most of her life. “I drank too much in the past, and I was extremely self-critical,” she said. “In retrospect, I can say now I didn’t like the fact that I was a male.”

     

    In retrospect...
    This all makes him sound like a hard-boiled detective than an obvious case of being a woman.

    Before she started dressing in women’s clothing, she said, she could not remember looking at herself in the mirror and feeling anything other than disgust. “I believe from a very early age I’ve wanted to be a woman,” she said. Somehow, she added, the sense was both vague and strong. “I did not like anything that was masculine about me. But I never, on a conscious level, thought that there was anything I could do about that.”

    Last year, Ms. DuVally said, she discovered that she liked wearing women’s clothing. She did so on weeknights, at her apartment on the Upper East Side. She found a support group for transgender people and made new friends.

    At first, the thought of expressing herself in this way at Goldman did not cross her mind. But then, beginning late last year, she occasionally wore light makeup to work. Sometimes she would appear before her colleagues wearing bright red or pink lipstick. A few nights before Thanksgiving, she wore makeup along with a tuxedo to a black-tie event, where she mingled with other bank employees and journalists.

     

    So which is it? An early age or a novel revelation? The rest of this a textbook auto-gynephile as documented on r/itsafetish.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/

    The reality is this guy has a fetish for crossdressing and there is absolutely nothing feminine about him. But it's interesting how it goes like with others, a slow escalation like wearing lipstick or nail polish at work as the fetish bleeds into his public life. Being depressed and overworked this was maybe the primary source of joy in his life and he confused that with being transgender or maybe knows what’s going on but has let the fetish take control of his life.

    aI wonder if there is some hormone imbalance making these guys go girly.

    Hard core masculine guys going girly? There must be more to the story. It is pretty sad that our medical folks don’t want to help these guys get some real help rather than just nurture the illness itself.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    They don't actually become feminine in their behaviour at all though. They are only 'girly' in the senses (makeup, dresses, hair) that a male pervert would be interested in
    , @Altai
    Maybe they have a higher sex drive causing a fetish to be more profound? Maybe the more masculine you are, the more femininity seems fascinating? Maybe they are more risk taking and less concerned with societal approval, less socially anxious. Maybe they have a deficit in empathy and don't care about the social consequences or adjustments their loved ones have to make.
  34. @Alice in Wonderland
    aI wonder if there is some hormone imbalance making these guys go girly.

    Hard core masculine guys going girly? There must be more to the story. It is pretty sad that our medical folks don't want to help these guys get some real help rather than just nurture the illness itself.

    They don’t actually become feminine in their behaviour at all though. They are only ‘girly’ in the senses (makeup, dresses, hair) that a male pervert would be interested in

    • Replies: @Anon000
    Yet LGBT dogma states that if you refuse to date a transgender then you’re transphobic. (nb: my transphobia starts at someone with a Y chromosome thinking they’re a female).
    , @Anon
    The Wikipedia article for the paraphilia of Transvestic Fetishism pretty much sounds like these late onset transgender guys:

    Transvestic fetishism is a psychiatric diagnosis applied to those who are thought to have an excessive sexual or erotic interest in cross-dressing; this interest is often expressed in autoerotic behavior. It differs from cross-dressing for entertainment or other purposes that do not involve sexual arousal, and is categorized as a paraphilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Sexual arousal in response to donning sex-typical clothing is homeovestism.

    Males with late onset gender dysphoria "frequently engage in transvestic behavior with sexual excitement," which could include transvestic fetishism. "Habitual fetishistic tranvestism developing into autogynephilia" is given as a risk factor for gender dysphoria to develop.

    According to DSM-IV, this fetishism was limited to heterosexual men; however, the DSM-5 does not have this restriction, and opens it to women and men with this interest, regardless of their sexual orientation.

    There are two key criteria before a psychiatric diagnosis of "transvestic fetishism" is made:

    1. Individuals must be sexually aroused by the act of cross-dressing.

    2. Individuals must experience significant distress or impairment – socially or occupationally – because of their behavior.
    Types[edit]

    Some male transvestic fetishists collect women's clothing, e.g. panties, nightgowns, babydolls, bridal gowns, slips, brassieres, and other types of nightwear, lingerie, stockings, pantyhose, shoes, and boots, items of a distinct feminine look and feel. They may dress in these feminine garments and take photographs of themselves while living out their fantasies.
     
    This is what Ray Blanchard observed in autogynephillic transsexual men: Collecting up clothes, dressing up in private, masturbation in a mirror or taking photos of oneself, periodic attempts to stop activity by throwing away clothing, rinse, repeat, until wife or girlfriend discovers cache. Then you come out as transgender (or in the old days, transvestite). You don't even have to cut your dick off these days to be a transgender, and you can grow your own tits.

    Michael Bailey, the sex researcher, on a forum said that Bruce Jenner was probably extremely sexually excited to see himself in lingerie on a magazine cover. Excuse me, Caitlin, herself.
  35. Our elites are comical and appalling in equal measure.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast, L Woods
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Yes, what good is a technocratic managerial class if it's terrible at governance and has descended into the kind of depravity that would make Caligula blush*?

    * Hat tip to Morrissey.
    , @Desiderius
    Here’s hoping it’s a comedy for us - sure looking that way. Certainly a tragedy for them any way you slice it. So much hubris, so little justification.
    , @Whiskey
    Comical and appalling yes, but how to replace them?

    A complete war, with industrial WWII mobilization, would cause the elites to be replaced by more competent and more aligned with White male interests.

    Look at what happened to the US Army in WWII. In the beginning, the officer and particularly the general officer class was nearly as bad as the Union Army before Grant and Sherman. Kasserine Pass was a disaster that did not have to happen, it was mostly the result of appallingly bad leadership. But disasters as in the Civil War led the top political leadership to replace the dead weight with those who were effective such as Patton.

    Indeed you could say prolonged peace is very, very bad for Western Civilization. As it allows dead weight clown shows like the above subject to exist, without challenge. While war winnows out failures in leadership by defeat (by other western nations if nothing else) and does not allow decadence. Think of it like fire that if periodic and not catastrophic renews a forest not destroys it. [But depends on the frequency and severity.]
  36. @HammerJack
    Also (please forgive the indelicacy) at some age men realize that their tools aren't really good for much anymore, and not only do women enjoy far more Privilege in the Current Year, transcritters outrank even them. So who knows, maybe it's a rational calculus. If you're already a bit twisted I mean. Help me out here I'm struggling!

    They can’t make it anymore as a guy so they figure they’ll have some fun as a girl? I…guess. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me but there you have it.

    I always figured:

    1. Guy with falling T due to age takes replacement T.
    2. Somehow the body’s endogenous aromatase (the enzyme that turns T into estrogens) responds more strongly to the replacement T than it did to the original and makes lots of estrogens.
    3. Guy decides he’s a girl.

    I have no way to falsify my hypothesis and certainly no scientist would dare help me.

    • Agree: BB753
  37. The middle name of Tania Mirchandani is Kapoor. Muh discriminated Gypsy.

  38. @MikeatMikedotMike
    So expanding on your theory about middle aged power brokers suddenly deciding that they are women: Could this just be a pathetic attempt for middle/late aged men to attract young hotties without seeming as creepy about it? (as bizarre as that sounds)

    My apologies if this has already been presented.

    Could this just be a pathetic attempt for middle/late aged men to attract young hotties without seeming as creepy about it? (as bizarre as that sounds)

    If so why go through taking hormone shots and and wearing wigs and putting on makeup? A lot feminist SJWs commenters pointed out that this is gender stereotyping. Why not simply identify as a woman and then use the women’s bathroom and locker room? Now that would be really tolerant of them if they accepted a guy would said he identifies as a woman and showers with them while sporting a penis. That level of tolerance would result in a spike in men with gender dysphoria.

  39. @Kyle
    You can’t work 72 hours straight. Anything after 8 hours is unproductive. That figure strikes me as sensational, and it makes me question the rest of the reporting. But maybe it is true. I’m not familiar with what type of job was being done. Perhaps the young man was monitoring constantly changing data that only he could analyze. 72 hours without sleep is insane. Methamphetamine or similar drugs like adderall could be responsible for that type of behavior. It keeps you from feeling drowsy and sharpens attention. I’m not a doctor so I don’t know if it’s possible to overdose on meth or not. A lot of the negative effects of meth have always struck me as being caused by a lack of sleep. But could a lack of sleep kill you? That seems improbable. My suspicions then fall back on drug abuse. That isn’t Goldman Sachs fault and they shouldn’t be blamed for it. Worker exploitation is the least of their crimes, those workers are well compensated for what they do.

    I had a roommate in college who stayed up for 40 hours straight. He was one of those crazy architecture majors. But school is a different beast altogether.

  40. @Alice in Wonderland
    aI wonder if there is some hormone imbalance making these guys go girly.

    Hard core masculine guys going girly? There must be more to the story. It is pretty sad that our medical folks don't want to help these guys get some real help rather than just nurture the illness itself.

    Maybe they have a higher sex drive causing a fetish to be more profound? Maybe the more masculine you are, the more femininity seems fascinating? Maybe they are more risk taking and less concerned with societal approval, less socially anxious. Maybe they have a deficit in empathy and don’t care about the social consequences or adjustments their loved ones have to make.

  41. @Art Deco
    Our elites are comical and appalling in equal measure.

    Yes, what good is a technocratic managerial class if it’s terrible at governance and has descended into the kind of depravity that would make Caligula blush*?

    * Hat tip to Morrissey.

  42. @Kent Nationalist
    They don't actually become feminine in their behaviour at all though. They are only 'girly' in the senses (makeup, dresses, hair) that a male pervert would be interested in

    Yet LGBT dogma states that if you refuse to date a transgender then you’re transphobic. (nb: my transphobia starts at someone with a Y chromosome thinking they’re a female).

  43. anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kyle
    You can’t work 72 hours straight. Anything after 8 hours is unproductive. That figure strikes me as sensational, and it makes me question the rest of the reporting. But maybe it is true. I’m not familiar with what type of job was being done. Perhaps the young man was monitoring constantly changing data that only he could analyze. 72 hours without sleep is insane. Methamphetamine or similar drugs like adderall could be responsible for that type of behavior. It keeps you from feeling drowsy and sharpens attention. I’m not a doctor so I don’t know if it’s possible to overdose on meth or not. A lot of the negative effects of meth have always struck me as being caused by a lack of sleep. But could a lack of sleep kill you? That seems improbable. My suspicions then fall back on drug abuse. That isn’t Goldman Sachs fault and they shouldn’t be blamed for it. Worker exploitation is the least of their crimes, those workers are well compensated for what they do.

    Whether it was 72 hours, or 24, lack of sleep can bring on a seizure, if you are an epileptic. They are often cautioned about taking baths, because they can drown during a seizure. Of course, falling in the shower is a real possibility. This poor fellow should have recognized his limitation, and gotten a job where he would get more rest, but less money.

    I have known a few people who worked there…one, now a brother-in-law, would work until late evening several times a week, and the company would hire a limo to take him back to his home in Bayport, Suffolk County. He would be up the next morning at 6:00 a.m. to catch the train to Manhattan, and do it all over again. He was 25 years old, and the routine absolutely wore him out.

  44. @jim jones
    The Left is the Party of the dysfunctional, people who vote Leftist are admitting that they are failures.

    Boomercon talk. Elite investment bankers are “failures?” Then who could possibly be a “success?” They are the winners today. By classic bootstrapper logic, that makes them “Good,” so best amend your voter registration.

  45. @guest
    "Maeve?" What is that, Old Irish? Shouldda gone with something more Goldmanie, like Miryam.

    Speaking of which, I happened to learn recently that one of the head guys on HBO's Game of Thrones, David Benioff, descends from a big Goldman muckety-muck. Hard to know, because he goes by his mother's maiden name. His father is Stephen Friedman, who was COO and chairman of the board at Goldman, as well as chairman of the New York Fed.

    One wonders how hotshots break into Hollywood. There's nepotism and the casting couch, and then there's I don't know what. "Gonnegtions." How does a guy with a couple novels no one read and a few movie writing credits (including X-Men Origins: Wolverine) get picked to co-run an important HBO property? With millions on the line? Zero experience running a t.v. and not all that much writing experience.

    Well, apparently he and his partner won George R.R. Martin over, and that guy had a big say over his property. But I wonder. When you learn the original pilot episode was muffed so bad it had to be scrapped and they reshot a year later without firing the showrunners, I wonder.

    Friedman replaced Brent Scowcroft on the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board and was director of the National Economic Council. I have to think that means something. Even if they hate eachother and never talk. People would know.

    Some of them communicate telepathically. Or maybe they smell it on eachother. Those are speculations on my part.

    That’s pretty interesting. Nothing surprises me about America anymore. The whole place appears completely stitched up.

  46. Becoming a M to F tranny cleanses one from all sins.

  47. There are positive indicators that there is at least a handful of people on the progressive side who are tired of this game:

    • Replies: @Gunner
    The real accomplishment would be Tulsi not doing that to a Republican.
  48. Steve,

    Goldman didn’t fool the NYT. This is transactional. Writer Emily Flitter covers the firm for the paper. She gets access and every once in a while she gives the bank a puff piece.

    You see another version of this type when some long-time bureaucrat or law enforcement official retires. Suddenly a 500 to 1000-word hagiographic on some guy you’ve never heard of. It’s a “thank you for sourcing so many of my front-page stories” piece.

    Flitter doesn’t seem to have held back in her reporting on Goldman’s problems, but this is her beat. She has to walk a line between hard-hitting and maintaining access. Here she’s showing them some love. Next week she’ll be asking DuVally for an on the record happy-talk comment on Goldman’s latest scandal, and she’ll want some truth, at least on background.

    • Agree: ChrisZ
  49. @JackOH
    LOL! I'll guess hazing. There may be a real reason. I'd been told medical residents worked very long shifts to better understand the progress of a disease and treatment.

    I’d been told medical residents worked very long shifts…

    Not any more. They still work long hours, but not 36 hours straight like they used to.

  50. My impression is that the ridiculous hours worked in investment banking aren’t necessary to the bank’s functioning at all at all, but serve two relatively important purposes: 1) to separate the wheat from the chaff, & 2) to trick outsiders into thinking their No-value-added job making numbers in a spreadsheet dance is actually the Most Important Thing in the evonomy and too complex for you…

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @L Woods
    This is true of pretty much the entire service economy: an inane zero value-added race to the bottom.
  51. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    That does bring to mind the fact that no mention of his family and their response in the whole piece, yes it is about his 'coming out' at GS but there were plenty of other asides far less relevant. (Like doing a 'won't somebody think of the Goldman Sachs traders' bit about the Volcker Rule) For a man with 3 (Judging by his age adult or near adult) children, no mention of their responses is interesting. I'm sure your father doing this at age 58 is hard enough without a NYT editorial announcing it to the world. I'm sure it makes you real popular with potential life partners to marry into that family.

    no mention of their responses is interesting. I’m sure your father doing this at age 58 is hard enough without a NYT editorial announcing it to the world. I’m sure it makes you real popular with potential life partners to marry into that family.

    This is true. Transgender feelings are co-morbid with depression and anxiety and, in my unprofessional opinion, are probably just another expression of what GWAS geneticists call the “internalizing” mental illness cluster, so the children, and grandkids, would thus be at risk for anxiety and (regular) depression. In addition, this guy had an alcohol problem, which is part of the so-called “externalizing” mental illness cluster, along with conduct and agressiveness, antisocial behavior, and alcohol and substance abuse, which the kids, and grandkids, would be at risk for.

    So he has had symptoms of two of the three main mental illness clusters (the third being psychotic and extreme thought disorders, like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and major depression). Each condition in a cluster is virtually indistinguishable on a genetic level from the others, so they appear to simply different expressions of the same underlying problem. These mental illnesses are thus heritable on a cluster basis, so you pass on the risk to the mental illnesses in the whole cluster. (I’m borrowing from Chapter 6, “Generalist Genes,” in Robert Plomin’s Blueprint from last year.)

    It’s amazing that you can get fired for thinking that you are Napoleon and dressing up like him, but if you dress up like a woman you are beyond criticism. I wonder if this sort of safety shield may play an unconscious part in some of today’s late onset trans cases? Maybe the job was at risk from the drinking, and his age, but now any firing would prusumptively be discrimination. Another idea is that self-diagnosed transgenderism is the male version of the cluster of self-diagnosed chronic fatigue syndrome illnesses so popular with the distaff side.

    By the way, this guy’s general trajectory reminds me of Mike Penner, the L.A. Times sports writer who transitioned, was temporarily ecstatic, then sort of half desisted, and killed himself in 2009.

  52. Goldman-Sachs, a/k/a Goldman “To Big To Fail” Sachs (who owned–and continue to own– one of the 2016 Presidential candidates).

  53. Goldman Sachs sounds like one of the worst (((companies))) for a goy to work for. Aside from the
    money why would a worker want to take all that abuse? Speaking of Pride Month, I went to withdraw
    money from my ATM at Wells Fargo yesterday in Decatur, Georgia and saw an ad celebrating
    gay pride on the screen on the ATM. Then I went to a children’s book store nearby that was closed
    and saw a table full of LGBT books on a table near the window. The local public library has a table
    full of LGBT books too. And this is a small, church oriented town in the suburbs of Atlanta. It is
    sick they way they push this crap on people, especially young children.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    “They” aren’t doing it, your neighbors are. It’s a natural consequence of the general ethos of nonjudgmentalism that has blanketed the land. Closely related to Haidt’s research into the collapse of morality into the care/harm axis alone.

    Our people are functionally morally/ethically retarded. Many churches are making it worse (Niceanity).
  54. anon[901] • Disclaimer says:

    Hee approached the doorway to a senior executive’s office and leaned in, sniffing the floor. Its occupant, a man in gray dress pants, looked up at her quizzically.

    “Hello,” he said, and waited.

    “Rex DuVally,” he said, after a moment.

    “Hello,” the man said, blinking.

    “Michael DuVally,” Mr. DuVally said. “I’ve changed species.”

    “I did not recognize you!” the man said

    I’ve never been fooled (I don’t think!) by a trans for more than a second. The most consistent tell is their crazy eyes.

    • Replies: @Beliavsky
    Did you see the New York Times story

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/style/pup-play.html
    We Live in Packs: In San Francisco, the dogs are very out.
    By Blake Montgomery
    April 26, 2019

    about "pup play"?

    Pretending you are a different species makes as much sense as pretending you are the other sex, so maybe this will be pushed next.
  55. @Art Deco
    Our elites are comical and appalling in equal measure.

    Here’s hoping it’s a comedy for us – sure looking that way. Certainly a tragedy for them any way you slice it. So much hubris, so little justification.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    ...any way you slice it.
     
    Ouch.
  56. @HammerJack
    Also (please forgive the indelicacy) at some age men realize that their tools aren't really good for much anymore, and not only do women enjoy far more Privilege in the Current Year, transcritters outrank even them. So who knows, maybe it's a rational calculus. If you're already a bit twisted I mean. Help me out here I'm struggling!

    You’re not struggling, you’re agreeing with Steve.

  57. The banker, Roger Ng

    I sure hope his middle initial is I. That would be perfect should this scandal show erotic developments.

  58. @Desiderius
    Here’s hoping it’s a comedy for us - sure looking that way. Certainly a tragedy for them any way you slice it. So much hubris, so little justification.

    …any way you slice it.

    Ouch.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Indeed.

    One wonders whether Dedekind ever leaned that way.
  59. @Anon
    So you're saying it's all a scam to fool the public and get good PR?

    So you’re saying it’s all a scam to fool the public and get good PR?

    There is nothing good about Penis Removal.

  60. @Kyle
    You can’t work 72 hours straight. Anything after 8 hours is unproductive. That figure strikes me as sensational, and it makes me question the rest of the reporting. But maybe it is true. I’m not familiar with what type of job was being done. Perhaps the young man was monitoring constantly changing data that only he could analyze. 72 hours without sleep is insane. Methamphetamine or similar drugs like adderall could be responsible for that type of behavior. It keeps you from feeling drowsy and sharpens attention. I’m not a doctor so I don’t know if it’s possible to overdose on meth or not. A lot of the negative effects of meth have always struck me as being caused by a lack of sleep. But could a lack of sleep kill you? That seems improbable. My suspicions then fall back on drug abuse. That isn’t Goldman Sachs fault and they shouldn’t be blamed for it. Worker exploitation is the least of their crimes, those workers are well compensated for what they do.

    We did 96ish during Hell Week. 72 was fine, felt like a million bucks, but that fourth day was a bear. Turned in a test with nothing but a puddle of drool on it.

    Of course now I’m lucky to do 18.

  61. @Reg Cæsar

    ...any way you slice it.
     
    Ouch.

    Indeed.

    One wonders whether Dedekind ever leaned that way.

  62. @jim jones
    The Left is the Party of the dysfunctional, people who vote Leftist are admitting that they are failures.

    The Left is the Party of the dysfunctional, people who vote Leftist are admitting that they are failures.

    Not failures, but victims. It’s not their fault they aren’t successful, it’s yours. And since they’re victims, they are morally superior and fully entitled to destroy a successful civilization. Your job is to pay your taxes and pay that usury to fund that destruction.

  63. @SFG
    I *have* seen examples of what you're describing, but I think that's more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians. (With all the 'no white males' stuff woke women are saying I can't be too surprised a few took the bait. There are even species of male lizard that put on female coloring to evade competition, so it's not unknown in the natural world. )

    This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment.

    I *have* seen examples of what you’re describing, but I think that’s more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians.

    When I was a young man, I thought sex was VERY important.

    But this is freakin’ ridiculous.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Oh, I agree. But we are in clown world now. I'd rather shuffle off my last years playing video games than do that--though if age forces me into celibacy I'd probably just read all those Great Books those right-wingers were going on about in the 80s and 90s and maybe start a blog nobody reads. But I guess transitioning's 'in' now.

    I suspect there are going to be a lot of very regretful people in 10 or 20 years.
  64. @Altai

    When she arrived for work as Maeve on the Tuesday after Memorial Day, only the second employee to use official channels to manage her transition at Goldman, she was testing just how tolerant and accepting a big American bank could be.
     
    Men are women. Investment banks are just 'big American bank's.

    Goldman became a “bank” in 2008 so it could access the Federal Reserve discount window, which at the time was access to money at almost zero percent interest. Doing so also enable the TARP to invest $10,000,000,000 in Goldman preferred shares.

  65. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kent Nationalist
    They don't actually become feminine in their behaviour at all though. They are only 'girly' in the senses (makeup, dresses, hair) that a male pervert would be interested in

    The Wikipedia article for the paraphilia of Transvestic Fetishism pretty much sounds like these late onset transgender guys:

    Transvestic fetishism is a psychiatric diagnosis applied to those who are thought to have an excessive sexual or erotic interest in cross-dressing; this interest is often expressed in autoerotic behavior. It differs from cross-dressing for entertainment or other purposes that do not involve sexual arousal, and is categorized as a paraphilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Sexual arousal in response to donning sex-typical clothing is homeovestism.

    Males with late onset gender dysphoria “frequently engage in transvestic behavior with sexual excitement,” which could include transvestic fetishism. “Habitual fetishistic tranvestism developing into autogynephilia” is given as a risk factor for gender dysphoria to develop.

    According to DSM-IV, this fetishism was limited to heterosexual men; however, the DSM-5 does not have this restriction, and opens it to women and men with this interest, regardless of their sexual orientation.

    There are two key criteria before a psychiatric diagnosis of “transvestic fetishism” is made:

    1. Individuals must be sexually aroused by the act of cross-dressing.

    2. Individuals must experience significant distress or impairment – socially or occupationally – because of their behavior.
    Types[edit]

    Some male transvestic fetishists collect women’s clothing, e.g. panties, nightgowns, babydolls, bridal gowns, slips, brassieres, and other types of nightwear, lingerie, stockings, pantyhose, shoes, and boots, items of a distinct feminine look and feel. They may dress in these feminine garments and take photographs of themselves while living out their fantasies.

    This is what Ray Blanchard observed in autogynephillic transsexual men: Collecting up clothes, dressing up in private, masturbation in a mirror or taking photos of oneself, periodic attempts to stop activity by throwing away clothing, rinse, repeat, until wife or girlfriend discovers cache. Then you come out as transgender (or in the old days, transvestite). You don’t even have to cut your dick off these days to be a transgender, and you can grow your own tits.

    Michael Bailey, the sex researcher, on a forum said that Bruce Jenner was probably extremely sexually excited to see himself in lingerie on a magazine cover. Excuse me, Caitlin, herself.

  66. @JackOH
    "Around that time, another Goldman first-year analyst in the health care group who had worked 72 hours straight was hospitalized after having a seizure. (Goldman declined to comment about either episode.)

    What in hell is anyone doing that's so important that it requires working a 72-hour stretch without sleep? Serious.

    Fame & fortune my friend! That is the reason that high achieving, risk-taking young people enter fields like Wall Street banking and big-time law firms. I’ve known of people in both fields and they have told me that 48 to 72 hours straight is not as uncommon as you would think. I’ve also heard that cocaine and other drug use is standard for some in order to make the time commitment

  67. @guest
    I call B.S. I don't think that's physically possible. Possible to stay up 72 hours, okay. But not to work.

    They wouldn't even make special forces soldiers do that.

    Cocaine is a helluva a drug.

  68. Some people will do anything for money and prizes.

  69. @Art Deco
    Our elites are comical and appalling in equal measure.

    Comical and appalling yes, but how to replace them?

    A complete war, with industrial WWII mobilization, would cause the elites to be replaced by more competent and more aligned with White male interests.

    Look at what happened to the US Army in WWII. In the beginning, the officer and particularly the general officer class was nearly as bad as the Union Army before Grant and Sherman. Kasserine Pass was a disaster that did not have to happen, it was mostly the result of appallingly bad leadership. But disasters as in the Civil War led the top political leadership to replace the dead weight with those who were effective such as Patton.

    Indeed you could say prolonged peace is very, very bad for Western Civilization. As it allows dead weight clown shows like the above subject to exist, without challenge. While war winnows out failures in leadership by defeat (by other western nations if nothing else) and does not allow decadence. Think of it like fire that if periodic and not catastrophic renews a forest not destroys it. [But depends on the frequency and severity.]

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    A complete war, with industrial WWII mobilization, would cause the elites to be replaced by more competent and more aligned with White male interests.
     
    I nominate you, Whiskey, to be the first man off the first landing craft. Thanks for your service.
    , @L Woods
    I think you’re probably correct. I also think you sound an awful lot like the mustached Lucifer figure America mobilized to destroy in the war you mention. As a certain luminary apparently said: the problem with a mad man is not that he’s irrational, but that he’s only rational.
    , @guest
    On the other hand, Ike got promoted to Grand High Poobah for no discernable reason. Certainly not by proving himself on the battlefield, where he never commanded.

    Also, the Confederacy squandered one of the greatest generals in U.S. history because they looked upon him as some sort of hit-and-run bandit or something. He had to raise his own armies.
  70. It’s so obvious that corporations and big banks support LGBT nonsense so they’ll get the left off their backs. Instead of taking it to the billionaires, today’s left is going after normal people for not being woke enough on transgendered bathrooms.

  71. @SFG
    I *have* seen examples of what you're describing, but I think that's more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians. (With all the 'no white males' stuff woke women are saying I can't be too surprised a few took the bait. There are even species of male lizard that put on female coloring to evade competition, so it's not unknown in the natural world. )

    This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment.

    It’s quite likely that he’s a super egotistical jerk that thinks everyone should listen to him and admire him. If he’s not in the spotlight, he’s feeling dead. So, just like Bruce he goes and does something outlandish and garners national attention. My guess is that if you could look into his life you’d see similar behavior going back to childhood. That’s why he thinks he’s always been a woman on the inside: it’s because he’s really been a screwed up sociopath since childhood.

    I’ve learned over the years that you really have to ignore the kids that demand undue attention. If going crazy will get them what they want, then they’ll do it. If you ignore the demands, eventually they’ll shut up and go away. I think that’s what would happen to these old trannies if everybody rolled their eyes and said, “Get over yourself.” After a while they’d see how stupid they are and go back to regular mental illness and take their meds/substances.

    My friend told me last night that she re-met an old acquaintance, now in his 50’s, who has become a woman. She said he was utterly pathetic and ugly, but had no clue. Society has told these creeps that it’s okay to impose yourself on your family and friends so they do it. And everyone else has to agree or else. Talk about a victory!

  72. @Whiskey
    Comical and appalling yes, but how to replace them?

    A complete war, with industrial WWII mobilization, would cause the elites to be replaced by more competent and more aligned with White male interests.

    Look at what happened to the US Army in WWII. In the beginning, the officer and particularly the general officer class was nearly as bad as the Union Army before Grant and Sherman. Kasserine Pass was a disaster that did not have to happen, it was mostly the result of appallingly bad leadership. But disasters as in the Civil War led the top political leadership to replace the dead weight with those who were effective such as Patton.

    Indeed you could say prolonged peace is very, very bad for Western Civilization. As it allows dead weight clown shows like the above subject to exist, without challenge. While war winnows out failures in leadership by defeat (by other western nations if nothing else) and does not allow decadence. Think of it like fire that if periodic and not catastrophic renews a forest not destroys it. [But depends on the frequency and severity.]

    A complete war, with industrial WWII mobilization, would cause the elites to be replaced by more competent and more aligned with White male interests.

    I nominate you, Whiskey, to be the first man off the first landing craft. Thanks for your service.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    I doubt he has much to lose. Upshot is, neither do most of the sniveling “Winners” in this comment section.
  73. @Whiskey
    Comical and appalling yes, but how to replace them?

    A complete war, with industrial WWII mobilization, would cause the elites to be replaced by more competent and more aligned with White male interests.

    Look at what happened to the US Army in WWII. In the beginning, the officer and particularly the general officer class was nearly as bad as the Union Army before Grant and Sherman. Kasserine Pass was a disaster that did not have to happen, it was mostly the result of appallingly bad leadership. But disasters as in the Civil War led the top political leadership to replace the dead weight with those who were effective such as Patton.

    Indeed you could say prolonged peace is very, very bad for Western Civilization. As it allows dead weight clown shows like the above subject to exist, without challenge. While war winnows out failures in leadership by defeat (by other western nations if nothing else) and does not allow decadence. Think of it like fire that if periodic and not catastrophic renews a forest not destroys it. [But depends on the frequency and severity.]

    I think you’re probably correct. I also think you sound an awful lot like the mustached Lucifer figure America mobilized to destroy in the war you mention. As a certain luminary apparently said: the problem with a mad man is not that he’s irrational, but that he’s only rational.

  74. @Anthony Wayne
    My impression is that the ridiculous hours worked in investment banking aren’t necessary to the bank’s functioning at all at all, but serve two relatively important purposes: 1) to separate the wheat from the chaff, & 2) to trick outsiders into thinking their No-value-added job making numbers in a spreadsheet dance is actually the Most Important Thing in the evonomy and too complex for you...

    This is true of pretty much the entire service economy: an inane zero value-added race to the bottom.

  75. CCZ says:
    @eah
    Read down the the thread, it goes on and on -- the NY Fed has a LOT of 'pride'.

    https://twitter.com/NewYorkFed/status/1135555142051389440

    The black and brown people of color excluded pride flag (NY Fed photograph) just confirms the current white privilege / white supremacist domination of the LGBTQ… community.

    The more “diverse” and “inclusive” pride flag is the NEW one that has stripes specifically representing black and brown people (and at the top). An example of the “inclusive” flag being raised at Philadelphia City Hall:

    • Replies: @eah
    “diverse” and “inclusive”

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see a white stripe on any 'pride flag' variant.

    @SFG

    an expense ratio over 1%

    As I recall (I mostly use ETFs these days), it is/was rather difficult to find an actively managed MF with such a low expense ratio (ie < 1%).

    , @Cagey Beast
    Some day, the sexuality flag will look like Rem Koolhaas' EU flag, except turned on its side:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAz8p_4udqY

    Europe: the barcode
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2004/sep/15/2

    , @Grace Jones
    If that flag had gray and white on the purple end, then it would be the Color Code that was once used on resistors and other electronic parts, before they all got too small to see. Black = 0, white = 9 on the first and second bands, then how many 10s on the third band. Brown black red = 1000, orange orange orange = 33,000 or 33k, and so on. Then gold and silver bands for 5% or 10% tolerance.
    , @ChrisZ
    With the issue of flag burning in the news again, and the usual troublemakers virtue-signaling about it, I wonder what the reaction would be to a meme that reads “I support flag-burning”—accompanying a picture of the rainbow flag in flames?

    Would that be seen as free speech? Or a hate crime?
  76. @CCZ
    The black and brown people of color excluded pride flag (NY Fed photograph) just confirms the current white privilege / white supremacist domination of the LGBTQ... community.

    The more "diverse" and "inclusive" pride flag is the NEW one that has stripes specifically representing black and brown people (and at the top). An example of the "inclusive" flag being raised at Philadelphia City Hall:

    https://outbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/rainbow-flag-philadelphia-brown-black.jpg

    “diverse” and “inclusive”

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t see a white stripe on any ‘pride flag’ variant.

    an expense ratio over 1%

    As I recall (I mostly use ETFs these days), it is/was rather difficult to find an actively managed MF with such a low expense ratio (ie < 1%).

    • Replies: @SFG
    Correction: the expense ratio's 0.72%. I still think you're better off with an index fund unless you are really, really well connected; you are not going to beat professional Wall Street sharpies who do this all day. The MAGA fund is a political statement. Of course, you'd be better off looking at the list of companies and buying their shares directly, or else donating to the GOP or the Trump campaign if you wanted to use your money to support Republicans.

    Expense ratios have been falling, though.
  77. @Aryan Racist
    Goldman Sachs sounds like one of the worst (((companies))) for a goy to work for. Aside from the
    money why would a worker want to take all that abuse? Speaking of Pride Month, I went to withdraw
    money from my ATM at Wells Fargo yesterday in Decatur, Georgia and saw an ad celebrating
    gay pride on the screen on the ATM. Then I went to a children's book store nearby that was closed
    and saw a table full of LGBT books on a table near the window. The local public library has a table
    full of LGBT books too. And this is a small, church oriented town in the suburbs of Atlanta. It is
    sick they way they push this crap on people, especially young children.

    “They” aren’t doing it, your neighbors are. It’s a natural consequence of the general ethos of nonjudgmentalism that has blanketed the land. Closely related to Haidt’s research into the collapse of morality into the care/harm axis alone.

    Our people are functionally morally/ethically retarded. Many churches are making it worse (Niceanity).

  78. @anon
    Hee approached the doorway to a senior executive’s office and leaned in, sniffing the floor. Its occupant, a man in gray dress pants, looked up at her quizzically.

    “Hello,” he said, and waited.

    “Rex DuVally,” he said, after a moment.

    “Hello,” the man said, blinking.

    “Michael DuVally,” Mr. DuVally said. “I’ve changed species.”

    “I did not recognize you!” the man said

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rZ_sR3KS34

    I've never been fooled (I don't think!) by a trans for more than a second. The most consistent tell is their crazy eyes.

    Did you see the New York Times story

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/style/pup-play.html
    We Live in Packs: In San Francisco, the dogs are very out.
    By Blake Montgomery
    April 26, 2019

    about “pup play”?

    Pretending you are a different species makes as much sense as pretending you are the other sex, so maybe this will be pushed next.

  79. @SFG
    I *have* seen examples of what you're describing, but I think that's more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians. (With all the 'no white males' stuff woke women are saying I can't be too surprised a few took the bait. There are even species of male lizard that put on female coloring to evade competition, so it's not unknown in the natural world. )

    This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment.

    “This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment.”

    Based on what I’ve read – testosterone levels (free and total) in men begin to decline as early as the late 20’s. By the time men are of the age we see a lot of these guys deciding that they’re women, their T levels have already fallen significantly. I am not ready to point to high levels of testosterone as the culprit for late onset transsexualism. If anything, I would say the absence of T is the contributing factor.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Fair enough. Still, lots of guys' T levels fall and they don't think they're women.

    Endocrine disruptors?
  80. @Whiskey
    Comical and appalling yes, but how to replace them?

    A complete war, with industrial WWII mobilization, would cause the elites to be replaced by more competent and more aligned with White male interests.

    Look at what happened to the US Army in WWII. In the beginning, the officer and particularly the general officer class was nearly as bad as the Union Army before Grant and Sherman. Kasserine Pass was a disaster that did not have to happen, it was mostly the result of appallingly bad leadership. But disasters as in the Civil War led the top political leadership to replace the dead weight with those who were effective such as Patton.

    Indeed you could say prolonged peace is very, very bad for Western Civilization. As it allows dead weight clown shows like the above subject to exist, without challenge. While war winnows out failures in leadership by defeat (by other western nations if nothing else) and does not allow decadence. Think of it like fire that if periodic and not catastrophic renews a forest not destroys it. [But depends on the frequency and severity.]

    On the other hand, Ike got promoted to Grand High Poobah for no discernable reason. Certainly not by proving himself on the battlefield, where he never commanded.

    Also, the Confederacy squandered one of the greatest generals in U.S. history because they looked upon him as some sort of hit-and-run bandit or something. He had to raise his own armies.

  81. @CCZ
    The black and brown people of color excluded pride flag (NY Fed photograph) just confirms the current white privilege / white supremacist domination of the LGBTQ... community.

    The more "diverse" and "inclusive" pride flag is the NEW one that has stripes specifically representing black and brown people (and at the top). An example of the "inclusive" flag being raised at Philadelphia City Hall:

    https://outbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/rainbow-flag-philadelphia-brown-black.jpg

    Some day, the sexuality flag will look like Rem Koolhaas’ EU flag, except turned on its side:

    Europe: the barcode
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2004/sep/15/2

  82. @Mr. Anon

    A complete war, with industrial WWII mobilization, would cause the elites to be replaced by more competent and more aligned with White male interests.
     
    I nominate you, Whiskey, to be the first man off the first landing craft. Thanks for your service.

    I doubt he has much to lose. Upshot is, neither do most of the sniveling “Winners” in this comment section.

  83. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "This is probably some weird hormonal anomaly occurring in high-T men in late middle age that would probably bear investigation by a less PC medical establishment."

    Based on what I've read - testosterone levels (free and total) in men begin to decline as early as the late 20's. By the time men are of the age we see a lot of these guys deciding that they're women, their T levels have already fallen significantly. I am not ready to point to high levels of testosterone as the culprit for late onset transsexualism. If anything, I would say the absence of T is the contributing factor.

    Fair enough. Still, lots of guys’ T levels fall and they don’t think they’re women.

    Endocrine disruptors?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    There seems to be little question that hormone imbalance would play a significant role in transsexualism, but I think it's only one piece of the puzzle. In the case of Bruce Jenner, he spent 25 years living with one of the most manipulative and narcissistic attention whores of all time, and who knows what kind of mental and even sexual abuse she put him through all those years. Then by the time he decided he was a woman, he had been living with FIVE more of them just like their mother. Combine that with a 3-4 decades of drug use, orgies, boredom, depression, and who knows what else.

    I know Steve is fascinated with alpha men deciding that they are women in late middle age or older, and it is very interesting. However, we need to have more information on these men's personal lives in order to present a better theory on why they decide that they are woman. Narcissism and a pathological need for attention seem to be reasonable pieces of this puzzle.
  84. @CCZ
    The black and brown people of color excluded pride flag (NY Fed photograph) just confirms the current white privilege / white supremacist domination of the LGBTQ... community.

    The more "diverse" and "inclusive" pride flag is the NEW one that has stripes specifically representing black and brown people (and at the top). An example of the "inclusive" flag being raised at Philadelphia City Hall:

    https://outbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/rainbow-flag-philadelphia-brown-black.jpg

    If that flag had gray and white on the purple end, then it would be the Color Code that was once used on resistors and other electronic parts, before they all got too small to see. Black = 0, white = 9 on the first and second bands, then how many 10s on the third band. Brown black red = 1000, orange orange orange = 33,000 or 33k, and so on. Then gold and silver bands for 5% or 10% tolerance.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "it would be the Color Code that was once used on resistors and other electronic parts, before they all got too small to see"

    The UK mnenonic was extremely un-woke - was it in use in the States?

    http://www.eudesign.com/mnems/rescolor.htm
  85. SFG says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    I *have* seen examples of what you’re describing, but I think that’s more young omega guys wondering if they can do better as lesbians.
     
    When I was a young man, I thought sex was VERY important.

    But this is freakin' ridiculous.

    Oh, I agree. But we are in clown world now. I’d rather shuffle off my last years playing video games than do that–though if age forces me into celibacy I’d probably just read all those Great Books those right-wingers were going on about in the 80s and 90s and maybe start a blog nobody reads. But I guess transitioning’s ‘in’ now.

    I suspect there are going to be a lot of very regretful people in 10 or 20 years.

  86. SFG says:
    @eah
    “diverse” and “inclusive”

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see a white stripe on any 'pride flag' variant.

    @SFG

    an expense ratio over 1%

    As I recall (I mostly use ETFs these days), it is/was rather difficult to find an actively managed MF with such a low expense ratio (ie < 1%).

    Correction: the expense ratio’s 0.72%. I still think you’re better off with an index fund unless you are really, really well connected; you are not going to beat professional Wall Street sharpies who do this all day. The MAGA fund is a political statement. Of course, you’d be better off looking at the list of companies and buying their shares directly, or else donating to the GOP or the Trump campaign if you wanted to use your money to support Republicans.

    Expense ratios have been falling, though.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Focus on generating weekly income from selling put options against high bid underlying equities like stocks and ETFs.

    In conjunction with this, downsize your lifestyle.

    It does not take a lot of capital to generate $1k USD selling put options. This is about as independent as it gets unless you manage to set up some low-effort side hustle that generates tons of income.

  87. Maeve DuVally = A vulva medley.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Grace Eras?
  88. @SFG
    Correction: the expense ratio's 0.72%. I still think you're better off with an index fund unless you are really, really well connected; you are not going to beat professional Wall Street sharpies who do this all day. The MAGA fund is a political statement. Of course, you'd be better off looking at the list of companies and buying their shares directly, or else donating to the GOP or the Trump campaign if you wanted to use your money to support Republicans.

    Expense ratios have been falling, though.

    Focus on generating weekly income from selling put options against high bid underlying equities like stocks and ETFs.

    In conjunction with this, downsize your lifestyle.

    It does not take a lot of capital to generate $1k USD selling put options. This is about as independent as it gets unless you manage to set up some low-effort side hustle that generates tons of income.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I already save >50% of my aftertax income. But it's good advice for anyone else reading this. ;)

    So...if it's that easy, why doesn't everyone do that? (Not that I didn't just google 'put options'. ;) )
  89. @Anonymous
    The pigs in Animal Farm should have identified as sows.

    As the message told at the end of the story Four legs good, two legs better!

    • Replies: @CCZ
    Walking upright on only two legs is an oppressive ableist (and speciesist and racist) social construct.

    From the “scholarly” Disability and Society article “Able-bodied Belonging in Popular Stories of Evolutionary Biology”:


    “historical association when it connects quadrupedalism with the bodies of people of color as well as underdevelopment. At the same time, development, bipedalism, and whiteness are connected with each other.”

    "challenge the stubborn notion of bipedalism as the most developed form of human movement"

    “cultural mechanisms such as racism and ableism intertwine”

    “ableism, speciesism and racism operate in the cultural products”
  90. @Cagey Beast
    I'm really glad woke capitalism has gone from travesty to farce in just a few years. It is so over the top that people with Old Left and traditionalist instincts can agree on woke capitalism's toxicity:

    https://twitter.com/rvtausz/status/1141052137910276096

    Some old school leftists are beginning to wake up and realise that this whole wokeness ideology might have been a top down operation from the Obama administration as Sailer has speculated to subvert and dissipate the threat of the Occupy movement to prevent any genuine social and economic change.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    When the rich and powerful are all on board it’s a pretty good indication that there’s not much Left to it by any conventional definition of the word.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Some old school leftists are beginning to wake up and realise that this whole wokeness ideology might have been a top down operation from the Obama administration as Sailer has speculated to subvert and dissipate the threat of the Occupy movement to prevent any genuine social and economic change.
     
    Sam Francis asserted that every radical change in social policy since WWII (I'd say long before that) was imposed from the top down.

    It was all Astroturf.

  91. @SFG
    Fair enough. Still, lots of guys' T levels fall and they don't think they're women.

    Endocrine disruptors?

    There seems to be little question that hormone imbalance would play a significant role in transsexualism, but I think it’s only one piece of the puzzle. In the case of Bruce Jenner, he spent 25 years living with one of the most manipulative and narcissistic attention whores of all time, and who knows what kind of mental and even sexual abuse she put him through all those years. Then by the time he decided he was a woman, he had been living with FIVE more of them just like their mother. Combine that with a 3-4 decades of drug use, orgies, boredom, depression, and who knows what else.

    I know Steve is fascinated with alpha men deciding that they are women in late middle age or older, and it is very interesting. However, we need to have more information on these men’s personal lives in order to present a better theory on why they decide that they are woman. Narcissism and a pathological need for attention seem to be reasonable pieces of this puzzle.

  92. @Anonymoose
    Some old school leftists are beginning to wake up and realise that this whole wokeness ideology might have been a top down operation from the Obama administration as Sailer has speculated to subvert and dissipate the threat of the Occupy movement to prevent any genuine social and economic change.

    When the rich and powerful are all on board it’s a pretty good indication that there’s not much Left to it by any conventional definition of the word.

  93. @CCZ
    The black and brown people of color excluded pride flag (NY Fed photograph) just confirms the current white privilege / white supremacist domination of the LGBTQ... community.

    The more "diverse" and "inclusive" pride flag is the NEW one that has stripes specifically representing black and brown people (and at the top). An example of the "inclusive" flag being raised at Philadelphia City Hall:

    https://outbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/rainbow-flag-philadelphia-brown-black.jpg

    With the issue of flag burning in the news again, and the usual troublemakers virtue-signaling about it, I wonder what the reaction would be to a meme that reads “I support flag-burning”—accompanying a picture of the rainbow flag in flames?

    Would that be seen as free speech? Or a hate crime?

  94. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Focus on generating weekly income from selling put options against high bid underlying equities like stocks and ETFs.

    In conjunction with this, downsize your lifestyle.

    It does not take a lot of capital to generate $1k USD selling put options. This is about as independent as it gets unless you manage to set up some low-effort side hustle that generates tons of income.

    I already save >50% of my aftertax income. But it’s good advice for anyone else reading this. 😉

    So…if it’s that easy, why doesn’t everyone do that? (Not that I didn’t just google ‘put options’. 😉 )

  95. @Reg Cæsar
    Maeve DuVally = A vulva medley.

    Grace Eras?

  96. @Grace Jones
    If that flag had gray and white on the purple end, then it would be the Color Code that was once used on resistors and other electronic parts, before they all got too small to see. Black = 0, white = 9 on the first and second bands, then how many 10s on the third band. Brown black red = 1000, orange orange orange = 33,000 or 33k, and so on. Then gold and silver bands for 5% or 10% tolerance.

    “it would be the Color Code that was once used on resistors and other electronic parts, before they all got too small to see”

    The UK mnenonic was extremely un-woke – was it in use in the States?

    http://www.eudesign.com/mnems/rescolor.htm

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yes, I was taught it in public school shop class by the teacher in the late 1970s. Everyone knew it.

    Sometimes they would say "bad boys...." but "black" works better so you remember black brown red...

    There are others

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_color_code_mnemonics
    but no one I know uses them.

    "Black Boys Rape" sticks in the mind and that's the purpose of mnemonic, is it not?

  97. @Cagey Beast
    There are positive indicators that there is at least a handful of people on the progressive side who are tired of this game:
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1142425644309110784

    The real accomplishment would be Tulsi not doing that to a Republican.

  98. CCZ says:
    @Anonymoose
    As the message told at the end of the story Four legs good, two legs better!

    Walking upright on only two legs is an oppressive ableist (and speciesist and racist) social construct.

    From the “scholarly” Disability and Society article “Able-bodied Belonging in Popular Stories of Evolutionary Biology”:

    “historical association when it connects quadrupedalism with the bodies of people of color as well as underdevelopment. At the same time, development, bipedalism, and whiteness are connected with each other.”

    “challenge the stubborn notion of bipedalism as the most developed form of human movement”

    “cultural mechanisms such as racism and ableism intertwine”

    “ableism, speciesism and racism operate in the cultural products”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Walking upright on only two legs is an oppressive ableist (and speciesist and racist) social construct.

     

    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/theory-evolution-man-silhouette-reflection-transparent-human-development-monkey-to-modern-businessmen-briefcase-119403582.jpg

    At the same time, development, bipedalism, and whiteness are connected with each other

     

    https://alcalde.texasexes.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Screen-Shot-2014-07-22-at-2.43.59-PM.png
  99. @Anonymoose
    Some old school leftists are beginning to wake up and realise that this whole wokeness ideology might have been a top down operation from the Obama administration as Sailer has speculated to subvert and dissipate the threat of the Occupy movement to prevent any genuine social and economic change.

    Some old school leftists are beginning to wake up and realise that this whole wokeness ideology might have been a top down operation from the Obama administration as Sailer has speculated to subvert and dissipate the threat of the Occupy movement to prevent any genuine social and economic change.

    Sam Francis asserted that every radical change in social policy since WWII (I’d say long before that) was imposed from the top down.

    It was all Astroturf.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  100. @CCZ
    Walking upright on only two legs is an oppressive ableist (and speciesist and racist) social construct.

    From the “scholarly” Disability and Society article “Able-bodied Belonging in Popular Stories of Evolutionary Biology”:


    “historical association when it connects quadrupedalism with the bodies of people of color as well as underdevelopment. At the same time, development, bipedalism, and whiteness are connected with each other.”

    "challenge the stubborn notion of bipedalism as the most developed form of human movement"

    “cultural mechanisms such as racism and ableism intertwine”

    “ableism, speciesism and racism operate in the cultural products”

    Walking upright on only two legs is an oppressive ableist (and speciesist and racist) social construct.

    At the same time, development, bipedalism, and whiteness are connected with each other

  101. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    "it would be the Color Code that was once used on resistors and other electronic parts, before they all got too small to see"

    The UK mnenonic was extremely un-woke - was it in use in the States?

    http://www.eudesign.com/mnems/rescolor.htm

    Yes, I was taught it in public school shop class by the teacher in the late 1970s. Everyone knew it.

    Sometimes they would say “bad boys….” but “black” works better so you remember black brown red…

    There are others

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_color_code_mnemonics
    but no one I know uses them.

    “Black Boys Rape” sticks in the mind and that’s the purpose of mnemonic, is it not?

  102. The guys who turn trannies were never alphas. They are betas. A lot of people here don’t understand these concepts. Alpha males are rebels and bad boys. That’s what makes women like them. These freaks are all fastidious drone types. I don’t doubt that they may have been female on the inside. No real man could have a corporate PR job for years, let alone be good at it. Think about it.

    Corporate/military is NOT alpha. These are the organizations in which betas are most suited. Alphas are impulsive risk takers and thrill seekers. They have the opposite personality as these uptight, goody two shoes types.

    The biggest indicator and any kind of sexual perversion in men is a neat, organized and obedient personality type. Those are the men who are homosexual, crossdressers, into bdsm, pedophiles etc.

    Healthy, normal alphas are sloppy, careless and don’t give a damn what people think. Success in society doesn’t make alpha. Alpha men are the ones women consider sexy, nothing more.

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